[00:09] anyone notice after updating to 8.04, that the nvidia binary thinks this is a xen kernel and wont install? [00:41] i guess the nvidia binary thinks the new server kernel supports xen [00:43] yarddog: I'm pretty sure that it does [00:43] yeah, im wondering how to get the nvidia support then [00:43] are you installing the nvidia drivers on a server kernel? [00:44] binary [00:44] its from their site [00:44] you'll probably want to install the generic kernel then [00:44] nv works in xorg [00:44] may have to live with it [00:45] vesa should work too, heh [00:45] hehe [00:46] are you installing on an actual server or a test machine? just wondering why you'd want the nvidia drivers on a server [00:46] its an actual server, here at home for a home based business, its a micron NF3400 [00:46] i installed xfce for the sake of have the gui option [00:47] ah, the desktop kernel should work with the drivers and work fine then... if you need nvidia that is [00:47] no need really [00:47] i can just put nv in the xorg, it works [00:48] cool [00:48] its an old card anyway [00:48] fx 5200 [00:48] my windows box has the 7600 gs [00:48] that one im a bit more picky about :) [00:49] heh, my 6800 just crapped out on my desktop... sigh [00:49] i know someone that is running one of those [00:49] he likes it on either linux or xp, but not on vista [00:50] heh, I haven't met anyone who likes vista [00:50] you just did, but only because im lucky enough to have it work [00:50] 'lucky' [00:51] thats my workbox [00:51] oh come on there's no need to lie :-) [00:51] lol [00:52] vista on my sony vaio, xp on my dell laptop, ubuntu-server on this micron, and the wife has vista on her dell [00:53] eventually i would like to get another box for a linux play machine :) [00:53] i got this micron with the intention of running the ubuntu server though, ive been running xampp [00:53] but on windows [00:54] so i want to transfer that to this [00:54] more stability in terms of uptime im sure [00:55] who is running solaris? [00:55] and what is the three-finger-salute to reboot or shut down? [00:55] lol [00:55] power button [00:55] or unplug [00:56] oki. so nothing to just have it reboot without login is there? [00:56] ive not seen a solaris box in 3 years [00:57] so i plead the 5th on that [00:58] oki [02:35] hello.. can anybody here assist me in the removal of webmin.. I know of something to remove it.. just please advise which to do: aptitude purge webmin or this one sudo apt-get remove --purge webmin ? I want all its configuration be removed too [02:54] rhineheart_m: Best ask in the place you got the package from. They'll know best. I suspect either of those would work, but I don't know the package. === rhineheart_m is now known as rhineheart_m_ === yarddog_ is now known as yarddog [04:52] Salutations. I've got a few scripts that together provide some functionality - think of it as an application, although it isn't really. In the past I've stored the scripts in a directory inside /root/myFooBar and symlinked to the scripts from /etc/cron.*, /var/www and /usr/local/bin, but I thought I'd ask if there were Ubuntu standard ways of doing this? [04:54] * owh really doesn't want to create a package to make this work, but I want it to be obvious for any future administrator. [04:56] I wonder if the most appropriate location for the myFooBar directory is inside /opt? [05:47] owh: There or usr/local. === macd_ is now known as macd [08:27] ScottK: I looked at usr/local, but only found generic folders like games, X11, so I opted for /opt - pun intended :) [08:36] I'm trying to migrate an ancient smbpasswd file to the samba v3 tdb format. The command I think I'm supposed to use is: pdbedit -i smbpasswd:old.server/etc/samba/smbpasswd -e tdbsam - the error I get is: "Unable to set account database iterator for smbpasswd!", which doesn't appear in any manual and the google hits don't help either. Suggestions? [09:12] In case anyone is goog-ling and comes across this question, the answer was to copy the smbpasswd file into /etc/samba, then run pdbedit -i smbpasswd -e tdbsam and it appeared to work. This URL helped: http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=422302&seqNum=3 [11:44] Hello, can the standard hardy heron server can boot on lvm? or should we devote a small ext3 partition for /boot? [11:44] lvm needs /boot [11:45] a year ago, the latest grub had seen some progress in booting over lvm and over efi, but I could not reproduce that success === joerlend_ is now known as XiXaQ [13:35] jeandaniel: Is that grub1 or grub2? [13:36] Quick google reveals this: http://grub.enbug.org/LVMandRAID [14:08] it is grub2 [14:08] but the project insist to call grub2 'grub' and grub1 'grub legacy' [14:20] I have installed hardy heron server on my mac mini in the cupboard, installed hardy jeos into a kvm virtual machine. Now from anywhere, I can type 'ssh jeandanieldomain' to land on the vm [14:21] Good job ubuntu [14:21] took three hours, and it works almost out of the box [14:25] to be fair it took less than that but some roomate is bugging me with the laundry and the washing up === OZ8AAZ_ is now known as OZ8AAZ [15:35] Hi, I have a setup that looks like this: http://tmadsen.net/setup.png. I need to have the two networks N1 and N2 talking to each other, and both have access to the internet trough the firewall. Does anyone have a good idea on how to configre the firewall to make that possible? [15:38] the easiest way it to add an additional network card to the firewall as from your .png, it would appear you are trying to run two subnets off one nic [15:38] I am [15:38] so with the extra nic, you would use bridging? [15:39] not really, just basic routing [15:39] trough e.g. iptables? [15:40] the only interface that I see requiring iptables is eth0, the one connected to the internet, which needs to be configured to use nat [15:40] can't use nat, I have two webservers behind the firewall [15:41] yes, you can ;) [15:42] ok, so how can i tell which webserver should respond to port 80 requests? [15:42] nat & masquerade [15:43] well, I am assuming the ip's you have provided are the ones you are using, which require the use of nat in any case [15:43] unless those ip's are different and actually globally accessable [15:43] the N1 and N2 ips are globally accessible [15:44] essentially, what you want to do is have eth0 pretend to be all of the accessible ip's and then do a masquerade to the internal ip's which are actually 1918 based addresses [15:45] so if a request comes in for aaa.bbb.ccc.web_server1 it forwards/masquerades it to 192.168.26.N1 [15:46] and if a request comes in for aaa.bbb.ccc.web_server2 it forwards/masquerades it to 192.168.26.N2 [15:47] and where I have specified aaa.etc.. that is the global IP and 192.168.x.x is an actual rfc1918 address internal to your network [15:48] although not fully particular to your case, this is generally covered in the linux virtual server project [15:50] mhm, thanks [15:50] a light went on, I'll try it ... thank you === OZ8AAZ_ is now known as OZ8AAZ [18:21] hi === Kirok_ is now known as Kirok [19:52] is there anyway to display a wine application on a terminal only machine? maybe export it to a tty or vnc-server? i see these options "-monitor dev" and "-vnc display" but not sure what they do. any thoughts? [20:04] AtomicSpark: Those look like qemu options? [20:05] yes [20:05] er.. [20:06] Are you asking about wine or qemu? [20:06] heh. wine :P sorry. was playing with kvm at the same time. [20:07] Ok. The question is completely off-topic here, but the answer is wineconsole. [20:08] well i'd be using it on a server and i figured someone here would have more terminal experience :P [20:27] andyd: Hi there :) [20:27] why hello there. :-) [20:30] andyd: The major differences you'll find are: The different release schedule, a different kernel, and AFAIR a rather different approach to booting and device handling. The latter will probably not be apparant, unless you start digging. [20:30] soren, is it possible to do an ubuntu-server install over the serial port? [20:30] aliguori: Should be, yes. [20:30] i'm playing around with a linux kernel patch right now that makes the guest kernel aware of when it's being run with -nographic [20:31] i've got a grub patch too [20:31] soren, any clue what it takes? [20:31] What does it do in that case? [20:31] aliguori: Yeah, I'm digging out the docs now. [20:31] soren, automatically output to the serial port [20:31] so in linux, it adds ttyS0 as the preferred console [20:32] the idea is to make it so something like qemu -cdrom ubuntu-server.iso -boot d -nographic Just Works [20:32] aliguori: Ah. Makes sense. [20:32] I'm not even sure what happens in that case right now? [20:33] nothing :-( [20:33] -nographic just hides the vga screen and redirects the serial port to stdio [20:33] but the guest doesn't know you're using it, so it still outputs to vga [20:33] so right now, you have to configure your guest to use serial explicitly to make use of -nographic [20:33] Yeah, I see. I would have thought isolinux did something clever. [20:33] (I'm considering the installer case) [20:34] right [20:34] well, my patch makes it detectable via cpuid that serial is the preferred console [20:34] so it should be easy enough [20:35] The different release schedule is what interests me most, soren. [20:35] Oh, ok. I thought you'd just detect the absence of vga and switch to ttyS0. [20:36] soren, the vga is still there [20:36] aliguori: Oh, just not hooked up to anything? [20:36] soren, correct [20:36] Gotcha. [20:36] you pretty much have to have a vga device for an x86 guest [20:36] I thought that was more of a BIOS limitation. [20:37] most bootloaders assume it too i think [20:37] Possibly. I have no clue, I'm just making this up as I go along :) [20:37] andyd: Yeah, I sort of gathered :) [20:38] How soon will Hardy server be released ? [20:39] April 24th. [20:39] oh, very soon then. [21:31] hi [21:31] anyone has experience with updating from 6.06 to 8.04? [21:36] 8.04 isn't out of beta yet [21:36] so you're probably better waiting ... 25? days til it's out i guess [21:37] Goliath23: we do want to hear from you if you can test it though. We are trying to make sure this goes smoothly, but the more tests the merrier [21:38] true [22:08] hm, I see. I'm installing an ubuntu 6.06.2 LTS in a virtualbox right now and will clone my system in terms of installed packages [22:08] to test it for my production server [22:08] unfortunately, my server is x64 and I think I can't test that with virtualbox [22:09] virtualbox supports x86-64 [22:09] at least when the host is also 64-bits [22:09] oh does it? I culdn't find the setting.. [22:10] hm, okay. hardware is, but I installed the opensuse x86 on my workstation so I guess it's not [22:10] Im trying to use apache + mysql auth and whe apache was at ver 2.0 I used libapache2-mod-auth-mysql but that is no longer compatible with 2.2 The replacement is libapache2-mod-authn-dbd but this is not available, can anyone help me figure out how to get it setup? [22:11] why i'm asking about upgrading in the first place is just exim to be honest. dapper has version 4.60, but I need at last 4.62 because of some features I want to use [22:11] any idea if it's possible to get updated exim4 packages for dapper? [22:12] hardy has 4.69 packages [22:12] but I won't be able to install them on dapper, won't I? [22:13] you could try te rebuild source packages of a newer version of exim on dapper [22:13] hm, yes [22:13] I did a rebuild of a source package once, but it's been a while. do you have a tutorial on that? [22:15] hm, my dapper on virtualbox won't boot. hangs on "booting the kernel" :/ [22:16] dpkg-buildpackage