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elmook, seriously - where in the world is it afternoon?00:00
radixhmm. maybe if you're west coast north america :)00:02
mptNew Zealand00:06
mpthttp://timeanddate.com/worldclock/results.html?query=wellington00:06
lifeless1205 I would expect00:06
thumperradix: I'm looking at it now00:08
ubotuNew bug: #114605 in network-manager "Network Manager cannot connect to a WEP 128 network (dup-of: 205887)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/11460500:10
thumperradix: ping00:18
ubotuNew bug: #209452 in launchpad "can't stop getting bug spam for bug 114605" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20945200:26
radixthumper: hi :)00:26
thumperradix: codebrowse fixed (I hope)00:26
radixthumper: yay!00:27
radixthumper: It is indeed working. Now I can finish a blog post that links to a file in codebrowse :-)00:27
thumper\o/00:27
radixthumper: thanks a lot for looking at that.00:27
thumperradix: np00:27
mwhudsonradix: you know you can make the paths prettier than what codebrowse generates?00:27
mwhudsons/paths/URLs/00:28
radixmwhudson: Oh, yes, I was going to figure that out once it was fixed. thanks for reminding00:28
* radix tries00:28
radixhrm00:29
radixmwhudson: ok, I give up :)00:29
radixmwhudson: what is the URL format?00:29
lifelessradix: /revno/path I think00:29
lifelessradix: there is a bug open with ane xample00:29
radixhmm, is there one without revno?00:30
mwhudsonand you can use /head:/ as a magic "revno", if appropriate00:30
radixmwhudson: thank you thank you :-)00:30
radixhttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~radix/corotwine/trunk/head:/corotwine/examples.py <-- no good00:30
mwhudsonradix: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~radix/corotwine/trunk/annotate/head:/corotwine/examples.py00:30
radixah ha00:31
ubotuNew bug: #209460 in launchpad "authserver performance regression" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20946000:46
warren[warren@newcaprica ltsp-trunk]$ bzr push01:42
warrenUsing saved location: bzr+ssh://wtogami@bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/01:42
warrenbzr: ERROR: bzrlib.errors.TooManyConcurrentRequests: The medium '<bzrlib.smart.medium.SmartSSHClientMedium object at 0x1191110>' has reached its concurrent request limit. Be sure to finish_writing and finish_reading on the currently open request.01:42
warrenlifeless, ^^01:42
lifelesswarren: hi01:42
lifelesswarren: that doesn't fit the profile of errors we're expecting, perhaps some other error has occured? 01:42
warrenlifeless, I don't know =(01:43
lifelesshave a look in ~/.bzr.log01:43
warrenlifeless, especially strange is a push to the same tree was successful a minute earlier.01:43
warren96.395  Using fetch logic to copy between KnitPackRepository('file:///home/warren/work/k12linux/ltsp-trunk/.bzr/repository/')(<RepositoryFormatKnitPack1>) and KnitPackRepository('bzr+ssh://wtogami@bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Eltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/.bzr/repository/')(<RepositoryFormatKnitPack1>)01:47
warren115.480  not updating child fraction01:47
warrenlifeless, it says the latter line a few times then the traceback 01:47
spivwarren: If you can reproduce, try "bzr -Dhpss push" and pastebin the .bzr.log output.01:47
lifelesswarren: I'll leave you in spivs capable hands01:48
spivwarren: that's a pretty surprising error, though.01:48
warrenDoes "bzr break-lock" work on the server?01:48
spivwarren: what version of bzr?01:48
spivwarren: yep01:48
warrenbzr-1.3-1.fc901:48
warrenbzr break-lock  bzr+ssh://wtogami@bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Eltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/01:48
warrenthis is just sitting there it seems01:48
lifelessThere will be a short interruption to bazaar.launchpad.net and the ubuntu wiki to deploy a fix for the performance problems.01:48
spivwarren: that's odd.01:49
warrenoh there it worked01:50
warrentrying "bzr -Dhpss push"01:50
warrenUsing saved location: bzr+ssh://wtogami@bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/01:50
warrenPermission denied (publickey).01:50
warrenwell, this is new.01:50
warrenoh01:50
warrenI guess that's what lifeless just said. =)01:51
spivwarren: right :)01:51
pooliehi warren 01:51
spivwarren: probably the break-lock was just slow due to the performance problems lifeless is currently deploying the fix for01:51
lifelessok01:51
lifelessfix deployed01:51
jmlwoot.01:52
spivwarren: try again?01:52
PengSo what was causing the performance problems?01:57
spivwarren: also, could you pastebin the full traceback?01:59
jmlPeng: a regression in the authentication server.02:00
warrenhmm, can't reproduce it now02:06
spivwarren: interesting, I wonder if maybe you had a temporary network connection problem02:07
spivwarren: can you pastebin the traceback you got the first time?02:07
warrenpastebin URL?02:07
spivhttp://pastebin.com/02:07
warrenhttp://pastebin.com/m416c3e9902:09
spivAh, I see.  An error of some sort happened during a branch.push call, which is decorated by needs_write_lock.  Unfortunately if the error is due to a smart protocol failure it'll still try to unlock, even though the smart protocol isn't in a state where that's possible.02:12
spivThat gives the error you see, and unfortunately masks the original error.02:12
spivI think there may already be a bug about that.02:12
spivwarren: this is bug https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bzr/+bug/144627 (which is a dupe of a more general bug)02:14
ubotuLaunchpad bug 144627 in bzr "TooManyConcurrentRequests raised when bzr+ssh push is interrupted (dup-of: 125784)" [Medium,Triaged] 02:14
ubotuLaunchpad bug 125784 in bzr "Concurrency errors when using smart server over ssh" [High,Confirmed] 02:14
spivwarren: My guess in your case is that your network connection briefly dropped out, or something like that.02:15
warrenhm.. isn't TCP supposed to handle that?02:15
warrennone of my other stuff stopped working02:15
warrenincluding this IRC connection02:15
spivwarren: well, it depends on exactly what happened, but it is possible, especially as the smart server connection will typically be trying to send more traffic than an IRC connection.02:16
ubotuNew bug: #209476 in xfce4-utils "Missing "/" in XDG_DATA_DIRS variable running Xubuntu / XFCE" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20947602:16
spivwarren: unfortunately due to this bug I can only guess about the original error :(02:16
lifelesshow is the performance looking ?03:33
pooliehi04:11
poolieany ppa hackers here04:14
jameshthey'd be on European time, so probably not04:17
poolieright, i thought so04:18
poolieshould have asked for insomniac hackers04:18
ubotuNew bug: #209511 in launchpad "formatting errors while commenting on a bug" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20951104:36
ubotuNew bug: #209515 in launchpad "PPA should not remove outdated packages needed as dependencies" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20951504:56
danuelHardy doesn't allow mounting of windows volumes (NTFS) without sudo? "You are not privileged to mount this volume"06:05
danuelIs anyone familiar with this issue?06:06
danuelI am new to Ubuntu06:06
georgyby default only the super user -> root06:06
georgyis allowed to mount06:06
georgyyou should join #ubuntu though06:07
kgoetzdanuel: try #ubuntu+106:22
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ubotuNew bug: #209554 in malone "Filing a bug+attachment results in two emails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20955408:15
AnAnthello, does launchpad have svn service or only bzr ?08:16
mdkeAnAnt: it only hosts bzr branches, but it can import svn trees to bzr08:18
mdkeAll: one of our users got the following error when trying to checkout a branch, any idea what is causing it? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6253/08:18
Hobbseemdke: it means launchpad is smiting him for not having his translations done earlier :)08:20
mdkeHobbsee: which translations?08:20
Hobbseeer, not that.  release notes & docs, sorry08:21
mdkeaha08:21
mdkeperhaps it's related to these issues they have been having08:22
Hobbseemdke: old version of bzr or something?  I really have no idea, sorry.08:23
mdkenp, it's a weird one08:23
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mwhudsonmdke: what version of bzr is that guy using?08:26
mdkemwhudson: not sure, although i think I've got the reason from #bzr08:27
mwhudsonoh ok08:27
AnAntCommon Public License = creative commons ?08:37
mdkeAnAnt: http://www.opensource.org/licenses/cpl1.0.php08:37
mdkegoogle knows08:38
AnAntmdke: is creative commons considered: Other/Open Source ?08:40
AnAntor Artistic ?08:41
AnAntI can't find the creative commons in the project add page08:41
mdkeAnAnt: Other, I believe. That's what I used anyway08:46
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carlosmorning09:51
Hobbseeguten tag, carlos 09:52
ubotuNew bug: #209589 in soyuz "The manage-chroot doctest is too slow" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20958910:20
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StevenKHi, I uploaded wpeditor to the ubuntu-mobile PPA two hours ago, and got the Accepted mail, but have yet to see it show up on the page itself. The source and binary packages are on ppa.l.n, though10:40
cprovStevenK: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mobile/+archive?field.name_filter=wpeditor&field.status_filter=published10:43
cprovStevenK: it's in the second batch when you load the page, btw.10:44
StevenKcprov: Which second batch?10:58
cprovStevenK: there is a problem, you have to click the search button in order to have the batch-navigation links presented.11:01
pooliecprov: hi!11:07
pooliewant to talk about 209515, the "don't delete old packages"?11:07
cprovpoolie: sure11:07
poolieso, um11:08
ubotuNew bug: #209601 in launchpad "Infinite redirection loop in latest-bugs.atom" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20960111:16
andrea-bshello, feeds.launchpad.net is unreachable11:55
andrea-bsfrom about 3 days a go11:55
andrea-bss/a go/ago/11:56
jameshlooks like a redirect loop11:57
jameshhttp://feeds.launchpad.net/ => https://feeds.launchpad.net/ => http://feeds.launchpad.net/11:57
andrea-bsoh, yeah11:58
jameshandrea-bs: I've sent an email off to the people who can do something about it.12:10
andrea-bsthanks jamesh12:10
andrea-bsjamesh: this problem seems solved now, thanks12:17
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kgoetzis anyone aware of a bug about launchpad going too far down when 'i'd like to file new bug' is selected? eg, teh box you put your bug report in is almost off the screen14:21
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matsubarakgoetz: do you have the URL?14:28
kgoetzmatsubara: no, i couldnt find one14:28
matsubarakgoetz: I mean, a URL where you're experiencing the bug14:29
VadiI'm having a bit of a problem uploading additional translations... I remember reading that after the original template is approved, uploading additional .po's should be quick. But I've got 2 of them there are in the "needs review" queue for two days. Did I mess something up? I couldn't find clear documentation on this procedure.14:30
kgoetzmatsubara: ah right.14:30
kgoetzmatsubara: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug -> put in a sumary -> (say "gnome") -> goto "no i'd like to report a new bug" -> on my computer i get a screen full of instructions, and have to scroll up to find the bug details entry box14:32
matsubarakgoetz: would you please file a new bug for that? I don't think it's reported as it only happens for projects that have lots of instructions14:36
kgoetzmatsubara: ok. will do14:36
matsubarathanks kgoetz 14:37
kgoetzfiled. i assume it will appear here soon14:41
falsepositivehi there14:47
falsepositiveany admin around?14:47
kikofalsepositive, yes, but please make your request in launchpad answers14:49
kgoetzmatsubara: incase it doesnt come up: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/20967914:49
ubotuLaunchpad bug 209679 in launchpad "project bug filing box is off screen" [Undecided,New] 14:49
falsepositivekiko: is that a chan here on freenode?14:51
matsubarakgoetz: thanks14:51
kgoetznp14:51
kikofalsepositive, see /topic14:51
ubotuNew bug: #209679 in launchpad "project bug filing box is off screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20967914:52
falsepositiveall right, thanks14:52
kgoetz10 minute turn around. longer then i thought14:52
mgedminI'm gtimelog's maintainer; I'd like to move its bug tracker from my trac to launchpad -- is there a bug import facility?14:53
intellectronicamgedmin: not really, but we may be able to help14:57
intellectronicamgedmin: also, you can create bug watches for trac - basically bugs that synchronise with the bugs in your trac, so you could start with that and move gradually14:57
intellectronicamgedmin: thanks for gtimelog, b.t.w - i use it regularly14:58
Lantas2Houston, we have a problem! I was about to commit a change to the main trunk of the LottaNZB project yesterday when I somehow managed to stop the "push" process. :-/ Afterwards, I wasn't able to complete it as it always complains:15:44
Lantas2Unable to obtain lock lp--1227296596:///lock15:44
Lantas2held by lantash@bazaar.launchpad.net on host vostok [process #7149]15:44
Lantas2locked 17 hours, 28 minutes ago15:44
Lantas2Will continue to try until 15:39:20 15:44
Lantas2Does anyone know how to release this lock?15:44
beunoLantas2, you have to unlock it:  bzr break-lock15:47
Lantas2doesn't seem to work... I'm still getting the "locked" error message.15:49
Lantas2when I try to "push" after having entered "bzr break-lock"15:49
beunoLantas2, break the lock 2 or 3 times15:49
beunoLP has a weird thing where it keeps on locking it for a few times15:50
beunobzr break-lock [LP URL]   that would be15:50
Lantas2thanks alot, didn't include the LP URL :-D15:52
Lantas2revision 200 is online :-)15:52
beunoLantas2, :)16:02
dokocarlos, kiko: how long does a request for a rosetta export currently take?16:23
kikodoko, it depends what you are exporting!16:24
dokokiko: launchpad-integration shouldn't take that long? and the ooo-build part of openoffice.org16:25
kikol-i should be small16:25
kikobut it's a queue, so if there's a job which is long-running..16:25
kikowhere are danilos and jtv?16:25
carloskiko, doko: We had to remove all OO.org requests16:29
carlosto unblock the exports16:29
carlosand didn't noticied that doko did such request16:29
carlosdoko: sorry about that, could you request it again16:29
emgentbarry: ping16:29
barryemgent: pong16:30
carlosit should be fast enough16:30
emgentbarry: remember to rename https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-whitehat-tools in https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-whitehat :)16:30
dokocarlos: ok, it's just the ooo-build part. should I request launchpad-integration as well?16:30
carlosdoko: only templates and translations for openoffice.org package16:30
barryemgent: thanks for the reminder!16:31
jtvdoko: (but in general, repeating a request does nothing, so it won't hurt either)16:31
emgenthehe barry thanks to you! :)16:31
barryemgent: i'll let you know when it's done...16:31
emgentok, another big thanks16:32
dokocarlos: resent16:32
emgentdoko you have docs for python-launchpad-bugs ?16:32
dokoemgent: no, should I?16:32
emgenti should complete anteater tool for ubuntu-whitehat16:32
emgentdoko: ok sorry, i red your nick in python-launchpad-bugs changelog :)16:33
barryemgent: um, i just looked at those urls.  they're projects not teams.  you don't need my manual intervention to rename projects16:33
emgentbarry: i saw https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-whitehat-tools/+edit16:34
emgentbut i can rename this16:34
emgents/can/cant/16:34
barryemgent: unfortunately, that's not something i can help you with.  probably best thing to do is ask a launchpad question16:37
emgentok i will do, thanks barry 16:37
emgenthi cjwatson 16:37
cjwatsonI made two translation download requests (https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/net-tools/+pots/net-tools/en_GB/+export and https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/pppconfig/+pots/pppconfig/en_GB/+export) earlier today, and haven't had a reply yet. It seems excessively slow compared to response times I've had in the past. Is something wrong?16:37
cjwatsonhi16:37
barryemgent: also, i notice on ~ubuntu-whitehat that the contact address is ubuntu-pentest@lists.ubuntu.com.  is that something that needs to be changed, and if so, can you not change it?16:38
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affluxcjwatson: was about to ask the same thing16:42
emgentbarry: it's corrected, please dont change :)16:42
emgentkeescook open ubuntu-pentest@lists.ubuntu.com (private mailinglist for penetration testing coordination)16:42
barryemgent: cool, thanks.  i won't touch it!  i just noticed it was pointing at ubuntu.com not launchpad.net16:42
emgentyes we know :) 16:43
emgentanyway thanks :P16:43
andiloshello16:43
andilosdo we have any import operators around?16:43
kikoandilos, sure16:50
andilosanyway, i am looking to have my svn repository imported to launchpad, i set up the import few days ago, and now I have opened a question16:50
andiloshttps://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar/+question/2850016:50
andilosno big thing16:50
andiloshi kiko16:50
kikoandilos, I'll do it with abentley later today and tell you how it went16:53
mgedminintellectronica: I'm happy you find gtimelog useful16:57
mgedminI'm not too keen on maintaining my own trac16:57
mgedmin(no spam filters)16:57
mgedminI'd rather switch to malone for bug tracking16:57
andiloskiko: thanks, do you think the path to the svn repository  is correct? it looks like this http://jeliot3.googlecode.com/svn/trunk16:57
intellectronicamgedmin: it will be great to have gtimelog in malone indeed16:58
mgedminI've 8 bugs (wishlists, mostly) I've entered in http://mg.pov.lt/gtimelog/trac/16:58
kikoandilos, yep, that's right16:58
intellectronicamgedmin: currently, we don't have a way to import a trac db en-masse16:58
mgedminoh well16:58
mgedminmanually migrating 8 bugs is easier than 800016:58
intellectronicamgedmin: if it's just 8 bugs then i'm happy to share the work of entering them into malone. 4 bugs me, 4 bugs you ;)16:58
kikoindeed :)16:59
intellectronicamgedmin: i'm doing tickets 2-517:01
mgedminwait17:01
mgedminI just did #217:01
* kiko chuckles17:02
* mgedmin starts with #917:03
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juliuxevening17:18
juliuxlifeless, could it be that bzr-lp ist still buggy? i try since friday to checkout the 5-a-day branch17:19
mgedminintellectronica: thanks for the hepl!17:23
mgedminhm, I've got patches there that I'd forgotten... oops17:23
BUGabundowere can I download and updated version of Ubuntu Training PDF?17:30
BUGabundodo I need to download all of it from bzr?17:31
kikoBUGabundo, should be uploaded to the wiki today17:36
BUGabundogrrr17:37
BUGabundoso again, I'm just going to fast17:37
BUGabundololol17:37
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pochuBjornT_: I just reported bug 209874 by mail, which had 5 plain/text attachments, but there's none in the bug report. should I report it as a bug, or is that known?20:24
pochuBjornT_: (I'm attaching them manually, in case you see them there and wonder whether I'm crazy or what)20:26
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kikopochu, BjornT_'s on vacation today. hmmm, you should file a bug about that -- it's odd.21:15
kikopochu, if you can attach your original email to the bug, we'll look into fixing it21:15
sorenThe new turning e-mail attachments into bug attachments seems slightly less than perfect, IMO.21:17
sorenIt turns my gpg signature into an attachment :)21:18
pochukiko: ok, will do that in a moment21:18
kikosoren, we are meant to detect those and not attach -- can you file a bug with an original email attached so we can get it fixed?21:21
sorenAlready done.21:21
kikosoren, we do detect lots of types of signatures, and different mime types and encoding, but it's email and it's the whole wide world, which means high variability..21:21
kikosoren, what's the bug number?21:21
sorenbug 20818521:22
sorenNo ubotu?21:22
kikosoren, so, how can I tell if my Xeons support KVM?21:24
sorengrep -qE 'flags.*(vmx|svm)' /proc/cpuinfo && echo "w00t"21:24
kikosoren, hmm, no w00t for me. but the intel website says that all Xeon processors support VT!21:25
sorenThat's not true.21:25
sorenThe VT stuff wasn't added until 2005 or thereabouts, and Xeon dates back waaay longer than that.21:26
kikohttp://www.intel.com/products/processor_number/chart/xeon.htm21:26
kikoliars!21:26
kikoIntel® Xeon® processor  All Intel® Xeon® processors feature:21:26
kikoIntel® Virtualization Technology±21:26
kikoIntel® Extended Memory 64 TechnologyΦ21:26
kikoExecute Disable Bit°21:26
sorenEr.. That's.21:27
sorenodd.21:27
sorenLet me check up on this. IT sound very odd.21:27
soren(when my meeting is over)21:28
kikosure21:28
kikoit also says my CPU is dual core, when in fact it's just HT21:28
* kiko thinks21:28
sorenIntel VT was officially launched at the Intel Developer Forum Spring 2005. It is available on certain Pentium 4 6x1 and 6x2 models,[2] Pentium D 9x0,[3] Xeon 3xxx/5xxx/7xxx, Core Duo[4] (excluding the T2300E and T2x50 models) and Core 2 Duo[5] processors (excluding the T52x0, T5300, T54x0, T5500 with stepping "B2", E2xx0, E4x00 and E8190 models),21:29
soren(from wikipedia)21:30
sorenWhich looks much more plausible.21:30
kikomy processor is a 3/15/2/921:33
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pochuBjornT_, kiko: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/20993222:19
kikothanks po22:20
* kiko looks at xchat weird22:20
kikothanks pochu 22:20
FujitsuAre attachments attached now, rather than inlined?22:23
pochuFujitsu: they are supposed to. didn't work for me though22:23
FujitsuI tried to file a couple of FFes by email last week (pre-1.2.3), and it tried to inline all of the attachments.22:24
FujitsuSo OOPSed.22:24
aVirulenceHi, I have a question regarding translations. I would like to get the documentation for my app on launchpad as well. If I upload the documentation.pot file, will it somehow replace messages.pot (the main app template)?22:28
kikoaVirulence, no, you can have multiple templates uploaded22:30
kikoand translatable22:30
kikoFujitsu, can I have a bug report on that, with a copy of the email?22:31
kikoa lot of the time it works, but it seems a lot of the time it doesn't too :)22:31
aVirulencekiko, thanks, how would it show up? as a seperate page or together with the app template?22:31
kikoin a separate set of pages22:31
aVirulencethanks again22:32
Fujitsukiko: It was OOPSing because the bug description was too epic - I'm fairly sure I saw a bug about it inlining rather than attaching elsewhere, and I think it has been fixed.22:32
pochudanilos: hi, I've imported a .po for emesene, which will use Rosetta for translations. I was just wondering how long does it take for a template to be reviewed22:45
pochudanilos: also, is it possible to set the template from a branch, so that whenever the template is updated in the branch, it's updated in the translations too?22:46
kikoFujitsu, it had been fixed -- maybe you could try again this week to see if it has?22:48
kikowell, I think it has been fixed. I'm not sure. :)22:48
pochukiko: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/194601, I guess it is and the status should be updated...22:49
kikopochu, it was fixed for 1.2.3, which was only rolled out thursday, so maybe it /is/ fixed22:50
kikoI'd rather file a new bug, though -- reopening is rarely useful22:50
pochuwell, I haven't experienced that bug again (haven't tried it though) so I won't reopen it22:51
RinchenFujitsu, you just made my day22:52
Rinchen"It was OOPSing because the bug description was too epic"   ... as in.. "wow, what an epic description of a bug"  :-)22:52
Rinchenit was too cool for even LP22:52
* Rinchen laughs.22:52
kikopochu, no, I mean I am actually opposed to reopening any bug that had work done and committed for22:53
kikopochu, I think new bug reports should be filed, and reference the old one.22:53
pochukiko: even if the changes aren't working at all?22:53
pochu(I'm not saying that this isn't working, I haven't tried it again, just as a general case too)22:54
aVirulencekiko, erm.. it isn't shown in separate pages.. the documentation is now in the same pages as the app strings are22:56
kikopochu, well, I guess if the changes aren't working /at all/ then maybe not. but that's really very rarely the case22:57
kikoaVirulence, "same pages"?22:57
aVirulencewell, yeah, I thought they would show up as two templates, but instead they're 'merged'22:59
kikoaVirulence, hmmm, where?22:59
aVirulencehttps://translations.launchpad.net/lottanzb/trunk/+pots/lottanzb23:00
kikoaVirulence, it was imported into the wrong place, I think.23:01
kikoaVirulence, can you ask a question (see /topic) so we can sort this out tomorrow?23:01
aVirulencekiko, 23:02
aVirulencesure23:02
aVirulencekiko, https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/2856423:08
jcastrokiko: question. Right now there is a "do" project and a "do-plugins" project. If upstream wants them to be more closely associated is making "do" a superproject and "do-plugins" a subproject the right way to do it?23:09
kikojcastro, you can't convert projects into project groups.23:12
andilos_homekiko: i am the jeliot3 project guy, allow  a couple of minutes before downloading the repository archive 23:12
kikoandilos_home, sure thing23:12
andilos_homeand thanks again23:12
kikojcastro, that's a common fallacy; I'm not sure where it comes from though23:12
kikojcastro, haven't we convinced that guy to change the name of his project?23:12
jcastrokiko: so there's really no way to associate two projects then?23:12
jcastrokiko: no, he's pretty happy with just "do"23:13
kikojcastro, there are project groups, but you can't convert a project into a project group23:13
kikojcastro, he's probably the only person happy with that23:13
jcastrocan he create a "do" project group and then move the 2 projects underneath that?23:13
kikoyes23:14
FujitsuToo bad if people actually want to find his project's homepage...23:14
kikojcastro, he knows it's really not smart to name the project "do", right?23:15
kikoI know I've asked him this before!23:15
jcastroyes, we've discussed this in the past. :)23:15
* kiko sighs23:15
=== barry is now known as barry-away
andilos_homeabentley: thanks for trying the googlecode import of jeliot323:23
abentleyandilos_home: you're welcome.23:24
andilos_homeare the timing outs of googlecode a temporary issue, like the storms? or google is just slow?23:24
mwhudsonthe importer is a bit dumb and makes a great many connections to the remote svn server23:25
mwhudson1 in 10000 or whatever connections to google's servers fails23:25
mwhudson(the irony of this happening with GOOGLE's, of everyone's, servers is considerable)23:26
andilos_homei see23:26
andilos_homewhat about trying the import when it is not rush hour there in the usa?23:27
mwhudsondoesn't seem to make a difference23:27
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mwhudsonandilos_home: is it safe to grab the repository tarball yet?23:28
andilos_homeyes, it is up23:28
mwhudsonandilos_home: permission denied23:29
andilos_homeuhm23:29
mwhudsonh23:29
mwhudsonoh23:29
* mwhudson hits himself with the cluestick23:29
andilos_home...can you?23:31
mwhudsoni've got the file now, i was being dumb23:31
andilos_homegood, i wasnt sure if the webserver was allowing symlinks23:31
andilos_homemwhudson: does the file contain what is expected?23:34
mwhudsonyes23:34
andilos_homecool, now i can go to sleep, thanks everybody23:38
mwhudsonandilos_home: hopefully we'll have an import for you by morning23:38
andilos_homei'll check it with my breakfast23:39
andilos_homegood night23:39

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