[03:26] <ubotu> New bug: #209495 in xserver-xorg-input-evdev (main) "evdev crashes x server with Microsoft Comfort Optical Mouse 3000" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/209495
[06:03] <ubotu> New bug: #194848 in xorg-server (main) "hardy alpha 5 closes session after choose keyboard" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194848
[06:13] <ubotu> New bug: #209528 in xrandr "External monitor on with panel off causes screen distortion" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/209528
[06:22] <bryce> heya
[07:00] <tjaalton> howdy
[07:31] <ubotu> New bug: #207765 in ubiquity (main) "Install crashes on partitioning screen when brazilian portuguese language is selected during boot (dup-of: 184651)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/207765
[07:31] <ubotu> New bug: #208347 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crashes if cd language is pt-br (dup-of: 184651)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/208347
[07:32] <ubotu> New bug: #188431 in ubiquity (main) "Brazialin Installation Crash (dup-of: 184651)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/188431
[07:59] <tjaalton> bryce: fixing bug 184651 might fix bug 205979 as well
[07:59] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 184651 in xorg-server "Crash when starting gnome-settings-daemon" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184651
[07:59] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 205979 in xorg-server "xserver crash on exit in CloseDownDevices and SrvXkbFreeGeomRows" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/205979
[07:59] <tjaalton> I've got it on my git tree
[08:00] <tjaalton> the latest upload fixed the issue where keys got stuck
[08:00] <tjaalton> so maybe seb128 is happy now :)
[08:01] <bryce> yeah I'll take a deeper look tomorrow.  Also got some various patches and stuff I need to test and get uploaded
[08:02] <tjaalton> what i'd like to get fixed is the problem where the server falls back to 800x600 resolution, because it's using the default ranges (hsync 31.50-37.90, vrefresh 50-70)
[08:03] <tjaalton> there are some modesetting patches upstream
[09:16] <ubotu> New bug: #209568 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "hard lock up with R430 X800 XL PCIe" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/209568
[11:16] <ubotu> New bug: #208343 in openarena "Openarena doesn't render the graphics properly (dup-of: 199823)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/208343
[11:18] <ubotu> New bug: #208961 in mesa (main) "Update manager fails - From Gutsy to Hardy Beta" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/208961
[11:37] <ubotu> New bug: #27293 in xkeyboard-config (main) "Problems with Default Language and Keyboard Settings" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27293
[13:04] <Ng> tjaalton: did you build 2.6.24-13 yourself, or is my mirror just stale?
[13:08] <soren> Ng: 2.6.24-13 seems to be in the archive.
[13:10] <Ng> hmm
[13:11]  * Ng shrugs, I'll check back in a bit and see if apt cares about it yet :)
[13:12] <tjaalton> Ng: a.u.c has it, but there are no lum/lrm packages yet, so no wifi etc :)
[13:12] <Ng> ah, that'll be why apt doesn't care yet :)
[13:12] <tjaalton> yes, you need to hand-pick it
[13:12] <Ng> right now I need lum ;)
[13:12] <tjaalton> hehe
[13:14] <soren> http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/madison.cgi?package=linux-image-2.6.24-13-generic&a=&c=&s=
[13:21] <mvo> tjaalton: do you have a idea about bug #208961 ? the libgl1-mesa-glx failure?
[13:21] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 208961 in mesa "Update manager fails - From Gutsy to Hardy Beta" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/208961
[13:27] <tjaalton> mvo: hum, not really.. why would it fail even if that file was not there
[13:28] <tjaalton> or does it unpack libGL.so first and tries to link it to libGL.so.1 which is not yet unpacked?
[13:29] <mvo> tjaalton: that is possible, I have not looked closely yet, but it sounds pausible
[13:29] <tjaalton> the logs didn't have anything about nvidia/fglrx so that's not it :)
[13:30] <tjaalton> well, nvidia-kernel-common but everyone has it
[13:34] <jcristau> could be a diversion gone mad
[13:35] <jcristau> they tend to be made of fail
[13:35] <tjaalton> yep..
[13:35]  * mvo wished there would be a declarative way for diversions (instead of putting them in the maintainer scripts)
[13:36] <tjaalton> mvo: maybe check if the user has had nvidia/fglrx installed at some point
[13:36] <mvo> tjaalton: my personal favorite solution would be that the maintainer script would be robust enough to not fail but if needed I can try to add magic to update-manager 
[13:37] <tjaalton> mvo: I think they are better now
[13:37] <tjaalton> oh you mean mesa?
[13:37] <mvo> yeah
[13:37] <jcristau> mvo: dpkg is failing to unpack the package afaics, nothing the maint scripts can do
[13:38] <tjaalton> mesa maint scripts only do ldconfig
[13:38] <tjaalton> at least the one for libgl1-mesa-glx
[13:38] <tjaalton> ones
[13:38] <mvo> jcristau, tjaalton: right, my bad. I haven't looked close enough
[13:39] <tjaalton> but the nvidia/fglrx scripts should be better now, but not something that can be fixed for released versions I think
[16:11] <mvo> tjaalton, bryce: do you have any idea what might cause bug #208878 ?
[16:16] <tjaalton> mvo: could be the nvidia driver playing tricks
[19:53] <bryce> mvo, I've added some speculation and questions
[19:53] <bryce> mvo, currently there's not enough detail in the report to really do much troubleshooting, aside from maybe browsing l-r-m for similar reports
[19:55] <dennda> Hey. Are there any issues known related to Intel X3100 graphics cards and external screens? (Especially if you want to rotate the external screen)
[19:56] <bryce> denna, yeah see bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/
[19:56] <bryce> rotation causes lockups on some intel cards
[19:57] <bryce> we need someone to do some backtraces and such to narrow in on where the problem is.
[19:57]  * dennda volunteers
[20:01] <dennda> Just not right now, but I would be more than happy to help fix the outstanding issues (I have, as I said, a X3100)
[20:04] <dennda> bryce: just tell me what I need to do
[20:07] <bryce> ok, the procedure is documented at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingXorg; I can give more advice when you are ready to work on it
[20:07] <bryce> bbiab
[20:07] <dennda> Ok. That's likely to be tomorrow or the day after tomorrow
[20:10] <dennda> I hope there's still enough time to get those things into hardy :)
[20:29] <bryce> excellent
[20:29] <bryce> even if not, the crash-on-rotate bug is important enough we can push to get it SRU'd post-release