[00:00] yes...on about 8 computers [00:00] nice :) [00:00] various hardware configurations [00:00] which do you think is the best WM? [00:01] im not a good person to ask....i have only used gnome, KDE, and xfce [00:01] i'm using ion3 right now [00:01] the only reason i use xfce and not gnome is because i like having the same wm on all my machines [00:01] and some cant handle gnome [00:02] how long do you use linux? [00:02] about 3 years? maybe 4 [00:03] tried other distro's? [00:03] yes [00:03] i dont like .rpm based distros [00:03] same here [00:03] my first was mandrake [00:03] crashed it many times [00:04] partly cause of the rmp's [00:04] we should move this to #xubuntu-offtopic b4 we get told to [00:55] howdy folks [00:56] g'day [01:15] hmm [01:16] I want to share an external drive from my desktop running gutsy to my laptop running gutsy [01:16] what's the best way to do it? [01:16] before I used to use AFP from one Mac to another and it was nice and easy [01:24] hey, I'm having problems with something. Is anyone around that can help? [01:28] whats up [01:59] hello [02:04] hi [02:08] ola [02:49] I'm having trouble getting Xubuntu to install, can anyone help me out? [02:52] what trouble are you having? [02:53] Every time I try to install from a live CD (7.10), it gets to 15% complete, and then just locks up [02:54] what does your memory look like? [02:55] how much memory do you have? [02:55] 192MB [02:56] do you have a high speed connection? [02:56] Internet? It's reasonably high speed, yeah [02:56] try the alternate cd [02:58] Alright, I'll try that [02:58] Just out of curiosity, what is the difference between alternate and desktop? [02:59] the alternate installer is more text based, but asks the same questions and uses less mem [03:00] Alright [03:00] so the installer is not as pretty, but works faster. in fact, i use the alternate install over the normal install because i don't have to point and click, but tab, enter, tab enter [03:01] even when i have lots of mem. after downloading, test your cd, then install [03:01] okay [03:01] Does it install everything that the desktop installer does? [03:01] yes [03:01] alright [03:02] the alternate allows for some other options, one of them bieng LVM [03:03] Neat === unix is now known as Sl4y3r [03:45] anyone know why when i view flash videos in firefox even after deleteing the cache im not seeing the space re-freed [03:45] flash videos are kept in /tmp sometimes [03:46] ah [03:47] nothing in there [03:47] ;x [03:48] well, they don't end in *.s* [03:49] what would they end in? [03:49] ~/.mozilla/firefox/somename.default/Cache , you need to look here as well [03:49] I am looking for a way to bust open a .toast torrent file to extract the boot image for a complete, error-free bootable ISO. Any solutions? [03:50] download the .torrent, and mount the iso and then extract the boot image [03:52] The torrent is completely downed. Just need to find an app or utility which will extract the boot image from the file. [03:52] From there, i hsould be able to mount it nicely. [03:52] I should [03:53] I'm just having trouble extracting the boot image. [03:56] I'll see what 7zip will do. Gotta work the CLI from xterm. It may be the only option in which to extract the image from the toast torrent. Appreciate your help. [04:20] if you want the wireless applet to remember a wep key, how do you do that? [04:57] my xubuntu install has no pulse happening [04:57] pam is getting "connection refused to server" [04:59] !pulse [04:59] Sorry, I don't know anything about pulse - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [05:00] !pulseaudio [05:00] PulseAudio is a sound server intended as a drop-in replacement for !ESD - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio for information and installation instructions [05:36] I am surpised that someone hasn't banned you irseekbot [05:39] http://pastebin.com/d1e28189f [08:29] I need to get gnome-vfs module running so I can use gdesklets - how to install and run it pls [08:31] synaptic? [08:31] not listed there Iskr [08:36] someone with an idea? [08:41] well if i look for gdesklets on synaptic i find it [08:42] and i presume that if i install it, it would, as usual, install needed dependencies [11:12] hi ive got a problem with the xubuntu livecd [11:12] and dunno if its a bug a feature or if i miss something [11:12] do tell [11:12] im not able to use gparted how it should work [11:13] opening gparted leads mount to mount everything automatically [11:13] and if i change a partition it gets started working on it and suddenly xubuntu decides to mount everything again [11:13] and i need to umount it in the terminal [11:14] and that needs to be done quickly otherwise gparted stops working on the partition [11:14] that doesn't sound good [11:14] i think you shouldn't tinker with mounts while gparted is working on them [11:15] normally xubuntu shouldnt auto mount everything [11:16] hm [11:16] i dont have that problem with ubuntu livecd [11:16] anyone else here who knows about this kind of thing? :P [11:16] gparted is crashing on both when using swapoff but that isnt a big problem === TheSheep_ is now known as TheSheep === chtp_ is now known as ctp [16:44] Hi, my RoseGarden program is telling me that the timing in the kernel is too slow. How do I resolve this? [17:48] stay in the channel so i can answer your question ... [17:51] i need several world clocks on my desktop. which program is best to use. [17:58] BunnyRevolution: gdesklets may be the right one [17:59] or gworldclock [18:00] u know, i am gravitating more and more to xubuntu because of the support that is available in this channel [18:01] :) [19:35] any idea how to get network manager to remember WEP passwords ? [19:37] Ultraputz: you need the gnome keyring manage [19:37] manager* [19:37] does it add a lot of overhead? [19:39] uhmm... a bit, yes [19:39] but it depends on what you consider "a lot" [19:39] 700mhz p3 [19:41] yeah, you should be fine ... there might be slight lag when it first negotiates the connection but after that you probably won't notice [19:41] Ultraputz: how much ram? [19:42] .5g [19:42] gnome keyring manager. gonna try that. machine is outside, bbiab [19:43] thanks, btw [19:43] anytime :) [19:57] whats the name of the xfce network manager package? [19:59] In gutsy, installed package is Gnome-network-manager [20:10] hi [20:49] xubuntu hardy beta fails the install on virutal box vm [20:54] Now that is what i call a problem description :) [21:04] BunnyRevolution: how does it fail? [21:05] I didn't have any problems when installing in vmware [21:08] n8 [21:12] Can someone help me with a question about tunneling VNC through SSH? [21:13] Depends on the question [21:14] I've done it with vnc4server and xvnc4client [21:14] I'm pretty much a linux newb but I followed the guide located here: http://www.bit-tech.net/bits/2007/06/05/build_your_own_server/6 to set up a file server [21:15] fivehorizons: and what are you having problems with? [21:15] I was able to use VNC through SSH the first time I tried it, but after I rebooted the server I keep getting an "Connection Failed - Error reading Protocol Version" message [21:16] However, if I connect serverip:0 it works, but I don't want to do that [21:17] you restarted your ssh tunnel after the server rebooted right? [21:18] I think so....does that just require making a new SSH connection with putty? [21:18] fivehorizons: maybe, it depends on if you saved your settings on the session that you had the tunnel working before [21:19] Yeah, I had saved the settings. I'm essentially doing everything the same way as when it first worked. The only difference is that the server was rebooted in between, so I don't know if this screwed something up [21:20] are you connected to the server now through ssh? [21:20] Not at this moment because I'm at work, but I am able to connect through ssh just fine. [21:21] well, anyway, when you are connected to the server through ssh runn a command like this 'netstat -ntl | grep 5900' [21:21] ok, what will that tell me? [21:21] if dont' see anything then x11vnc didn't get started [21:22] if *you* [21:22] the sharex11vnc command doesn't seem to be automatically started on its own [21:23] you probably need to run that each time you ssh in... Or add it to rc.local [21:23] ahh, yeah I actually did do something like that. It didn't start on its own, so i ran sharex11vnc manually. [21:24] zoredache: let me re-download it and try again [21:24] on a related note I would add another option to the x11vnc command line the script uses [21:24] And like I said, VNC works fine if connect directly to the server IP, but if I try to go through localhost:0 it doesn't work [21:25] I think you add the '-localhost' option so that vnc cannot be accessed unless you have your ssh tunnel working [21:25] ah ok [21:26] also, if you do that you could add the '-nopw' option which will make it so that you don't have to give vnc a password... Since you can only connect through ssh, it seems like you don't need the extra password. [21:28] yeah, but at this point I'd be happy to see the password dialog box going through ssh haha [21:28] I can't get anything but that stupid protocol error [21:29] when I plug in my usb drive, it dosn't auto make the /media/"name" folder so it can not mount it... How do I get my system to auto create this folder? [21:34] fivehorizons: sorry, but what question are you getting the 'protcol error' message from? [21:34] bleah... what program are you getting the protocol error from.. [21:34] UltraVNC when I try to connect to localhost:0 [21:35] do you have a vnc server running on your workstation? [21:35] no, just on the fileserver [21:36] and your workstation is winxp, vista, or? [21:36] xp [21:37] on your winxp computer do a command like 'netstat -nt | find "5900"' [21:37] if you don't see anything in the list, then putting isn't setting things up correctly [21:38] you also might want to try connecting to localhost::5900 in ultravnc [21:39] Thanks zoredache. I'll try both of those things when I get home [21:39] sorry? [21:40] aren't you trying to set it up so that you can connect from outside of your home? [21:40] I'm not at the xp workstation right now. I'm at my work computer [21:40] well, yes [21:40] ah [21:40] but I don't have my public IP atm [21:40] ah === SamRose_ is now known as SamRose [22:18] TheSheep: hiho [22:18] hi hyper_ch [22:19] TheSheep: what's up? [22:21] hyper_ch: ---> #xubuntu-offtopic [22:34] lol [22:42] Hi anyone home? [22:42] j0 [22:43] Hi [22:43] !anyone [22:43] StoneColdDude: actually, i have to brb ... very sorry [22:43] Are U a Xubuntu user? [22:43] ubotu have you left us? [22:43] anyway, whats up? [22:44] What type of dialup system does Xubuntu use?? [22:44] I use kppp and want a light syatem [22:45] the underlying system is of course based on ppp... I am not sure if there is a gui, or how to use it... I think I saw something in Network Manager though [22:45] OK thank you [22:45] Gotta go now...bye! [23:37] I have installed xfce4 from apt-get; how do I get it to work now? If I try to log into the session nothing happens