[00:13] Riddell: Sorry about that, I was eating supper. [00:16] Artimus: how's this one working? [00:16] It's... festive? [00:16] awesome :) [00:16] Transparency doesn't work right with the panel [00:17] ... [00:17] oh yeah... I forgot about that... [00:17] You guys are going to upload this tomorrow, aren't you? [00:17] oh well, I think we can live w/ that. [00:17] just now [00:17] Riddell: thanks so much :) I'm preparing the release notes! [00:17] I hate April First. First, no Slashdot. And now a pink KDE4 :( [00:17] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HippyHorse/Omega/Kubuntu [00:18] So yes, the system tray icons have a black background, and the panel is black instead of partially transparent. [00:18] Other than that, it seems to work [00:18] Artimus: at least you can rely on dot.kde.org for serious journalism [00:18] I added that new hardware widget to my desktop, it looked pretty good. [00:18] Any other questions? [00:19] -17 worked as intended (or close enough). -16 never showed up [00:19] the window background and everything is pink, right? [00:19] Let me double check... I like the whole fast user switching thing [00:20] Yup [00:20] It's pink (with a purple center) [00:20] The panel was the only issue, and that's close enough... [00:20] awesome.. awesome... Thanks for testing :) [00:20] No problem... Well, yes there is a problem (it's freaking pink), but I'm happy to test [00:20] haha... [00:21] That wiki page needs to be fixed [00:21] The first paragraph [00:21] mm? [00:21] Any reference to OMeGa is messed up [00:21] "MeGa" is the actual link and points to a dead page [00:21] The O is plain test [00:21] *text [00:22] yeah...I'll fix that... [00:22] though the OMG is the whole idea ;) [00:22] OMeGa doesn't point to a valid page either [00:22] needs a screenshot [00:22] Should it? [00:23] yeah, i'm workin on that. [00:23] can't figure out the syntax for thumbnail though [00:24] can just put http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/foolsSS-wee.png in [00:24] I've never worked out how to attach it and thumbnail it [00:24] I didn't get that wallpaper [00:24] My widgets looked right [00:24] I didn't actually open a konsole, I didn't know it was supposed to turn pink [00:25] no, the wallpaper doesn't work [00:26] Artimus: all windows should be pink...did you open any? [00:26] No [00:26] won't work with that .deb [00:26] I thought it was only plasma things [00:26] The wallpaper or just the colors? [00:26] uploaded with widgets fixed [00:27] -18? [00:27] 17 [00:27] dot story published [00:27] enough mischief for one night, time to sleep [00:27] Riddell: thanks... sleep well :) [00:28] I'm really getting to like KDE4... I've switched to KDE4's Konqueror and Kopete. I need to file some bug reports for Dolphin. It keeps crashing horribly. === LjL-Temp is now known as LjL [01:58] how are things going this evening? [02:04] chirp chirp [02:08] seele: pong? [02:09] howdy jjesse [02:09] howdy nixternal [02:13] moin! [02:13] :) [02:13] * Jucato missed nixternal [02:13] evening Jucato [02:13] umm, someone tell me that the dot article Riddell posted is a april fools joke [02:14] sure think so :) [02:14] that's great [02:14] Aaron Seigo "and following a $10,000 donation from an anonymous North American source we realised the market should decide the best formats to use, not technical beurocrats." [02:14] hahahaha, ya it is [02:15] For some more MS interoperability it would be cool if KDE could support DirectX 11 in Plasma [02:15] gahahahah, the comments rock [02:27] 20:27:40 [ eddieftw] i love KDE politics sometimes [02:28] gahahahahahha, people are falling for that dot story [02:28] come on, they didn't get the subtle hints in it? [02:28] "KDE gained a representative late last year through our legal body KDE e.V. realising that the only way to ensure a fair process was to be part of it." <--- heard that "reason" somewhere before... and it wasn't from an April Fool's joke :) [02:28] that was my first clue :) [02:28] er.. actually my 2nd clue :P [02:28] (1st clue was that it's already April1 here :P) [02:29] "KDE founder Stephan Coolio..." 3rd clue :) [02:30] haha, and changing nappies [02:30] Jucato: from the sorry-rms dept [02:31] you can't rely on those [02:31] daskreech: I never rely on those dept names and on the various titles given to aseigo [02:31] the dept. tags are supposed to be jokes [02:31] so I don't consider "KDE's Supreme Leader Aaron Seigo" as a clue :) [02:33] Yeah but sorry rms? :) [02:34] Jucato: Esp if you didn't read the article :-) [02:41] http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1196/747230218_ce3f728204.jpg?v=0 [02:41] That's graet [02:42] where can i find the progress bar graphics in oxygen theme kde4? [02:47] bdgraue_: well if they are anything like the scroll bars, then there are no graphics..it is all created from c++ code [02:47] really? [02:47] hmm, ok thx nixternal [02:48] actually, it is in oyxgen.h and oxygen.cpp located in kdebase/runtime/kstyles/oxygen/ [02:49] KDE widget styles/engines are C++ code afaik [02:49] no pixmaps [02:50] ya, I am looking at it now...that is nuts [02:51] wow that was close [02:51] although I think someone was working on a pixmap/SVG-themeable widget style (Kokoon?) before... but the engine/style itself is still C++. [02:51] laptop turned off and then wouldn't turn on internal disk couldn't be found [02:51] time to backup everything [02:51] ouch :( [03:05] hrm wonder how long it will take to copy over a 60 gig drive [03:05] hope my drive stays up while i copy it it [03:32] man, getting this presentation tweaked is a pain [03:38] how long a presentation? [03:38] 45 min? [03:38] those are the worst imo [03:50] 45min to 1 hour === milian_ is now known as milian [03:57] riddell :D [03:58] http://dot.kde.org/1207000153/ [03:58] oh [03:58] already discussed :D [03:58] :-) === evalles is now known as effie_jayx [05:31] http://www.nixternal.com/flourish2008.pdf <- let me know what you think about that type of layout? it is only in the beginning stages [05:31] nothing beats LaTeX for creating presentations, or any type of professional document [05:34] looking good [05:40] man, jdong has the #1 April Fools joke yet [05:40] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2008-April/003510.html [06:07] yay unicorn [06:07] though i didn't get any of the plasma stuff, just kdm [06:07] also yay gmail custom time [06:18] huh? [06:19] custom time? [06:20] http://mail.google.com/mail/help/customtime/index.html [06:22] keyboard autodetection rocks! :) [06:23] *keyboard layout === yuriy changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Welcome to the Kubuntu developers channel | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | Next meeting: Saturday 5th 11:00UTC | Hardy Beta is out! | Hug Day! https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UbuntuBugDay/20080401/KDE === hunger_t is now known as hunger === \sh_away is now known as \sh === fabo_ is now known as fabo === bdgraue__ is now known as bdgraue [09:45] kwwii: hi [09:45] Serega: hi [09:47] I want to make a cool kubuntu t-shirt. could you please give me the sources (svg if possible) of our pretty kdm theme? :) [09:50] http://sinecera.de/feisty_kdm2_dark2bg.svg was the last one I made...I think someone else worked on it for hardy [09:51] kwwii: yep... broken link [09:51] 404 [09:53] http://sinecera.de/feisty_kdm2_dark2b.svg [09:53] sorry [09:55] kwwii: ah... np, thank you! :) [10:45] hi there [10:45] * Jucato hides and waves from a corner [10:45] resault [10:50] Tonio_: how do you like the new artwork? [10:53] hi [10:53] morning [10:53] anybody gets a memory leak with this pdf? [10:53] http://www.iac.es/becasinstru/solicitud.pdf [10:53] with kpdf in kubuntu hardy [10:54] crash [10:54] Riddell: I didn't saw it yet, gimme a second :) [10:54] in my computer it eats all my memory [10:55] Riddell: ^_^ [10:55] Riddell: just perfect for an april 1st :) [10:57] april 1st? this is out hardy artwork! [11:12] ok, who was it that put the unicorn on my login screen? [11:16] jussio1: don't you love it? [11:16] everyone loves it! [11:37] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: hey, the dialog works, but I have some resizing issues of the controls inside of it [11:49] _StefanS_: ah... [11:53] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: i'll see what i can do [11:53] _StefanS_: well first get the features to work, polishing can be done later [11:55] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: trouble is that only the ok,cancel, apply button and the caption text from the frame is visible.. the fields are not :) [11:55] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: has something to do with me using a predefined layout from kdialogbase I think [11:55] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: so the layout f*cks up because I dont have a Hbox or something at the right place [11:56] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: I might code the dialog inline instead, not sure [12:00] _StefanS_: ouch... [12:00] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: you could me by getting out the code from kwlan for the start/stop network and modifying /etc/network/interfaces [12:00] stdin: go go on 4.0.3 [12:00] _StefanS_: I'll try , promissed [12:00] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: cool [12:00] Riddell: have you tried pardus ? [12:01] Riddell: I tested it yesterday and they really have excellent configuration frontend, like our guidance [12:01] stdin: no packaging changes, so should just need the same ones you usually do (libgif-> libungif) [12:01] Tonio_: I have not [12:01] Riddell: but their tools are, I must say, much better, and well maintained [12:01] Riddell: they are based on a backend (comar) with a series of kcm modules (tasma) [12:02] Riddell: they have all that we have, but also a very nice network manager a grub frontend and so on [12:02] Riddell: since those are maintained, I was thinking about contacting them to get their plans for kde4 [12:02] Riddell: we could work with them on their tools instead of porting guidance, no ? [12:03] if they're developed in an open way and they're designed to be cross distro and they can be part of KDE [12:03] <_StefanS_> what is pardus based on ? [12:03] nothing [12:04] <_StefanS_> linux from scratch :) [12:04] Riddell: http://www.pardus.org.tr/eng/projects/index.html [12:04] Riddell: not everything is usefull, but some of their tools would be really interesting [12:04] Riddell: we could discuss this during the UDS [12:04] Riddell: I was thinking about their network manager, their user manager, their firewall etc.... [12:05] Riddell: it is open source, and developped to be cross plateform [12:05] Riddell: I tried but couldn't get them to work on kubuntu, due to python errors, but a friend of mine knows pardus devs, so maybe I can get help to get them to work [12:06] here is the network-manager : http://www.pardus.org.tr/eng/projects/network-manager/index.html [12:07] of course too late for hardy, but for hardy + 1, that would be nice :) [12:09] Riddell: if they are interested in working with us, would you agree to have a discussion during the uds ? [12:09] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: I think its a good idea, if there's some good advantages over guidance [12:09] _StefanS_: well, it is like guidance, but with backend + frontend structure, policikit integration, and more modules than we have [12:10] _StefanS_: and......... maintained activelly :) [12:10] _StefanS_: I only see advantages over guidance :) [12:10] Riddell: tango is back........ [12:11] Riddell: did I forget to commit kds to bzr ? [12:11] Tonio_: today's k-d-s isn't in bzr [12:11] Riddell: ah oki.... [12:12] Riddell: well next commit should fix then :) [12:14] "12:10 < Haskear> I just updated Ubuntu and theres a gay looking unicorn wallpaper at logon :o whats the deal?" some people deserve to look stupid [12:15] yay, unicorn FTW [12:16] Riddell: I just fixed k-d-s makefile for oxygen theme, there was still tango entries in it [12:16] Riddell: I hope so, at least I provided him with the necessary informations to get it fixed :) [12:16] Riddell: I'll commit tomorrow [12:17] Tonio_: commit away, just wait on the upload [12:17] Riddell: done ;) [12:17] Riddell: does pardus diserve interest for the UDS or not ? so that I can submit the idea ;) [12:18] Tonio_: yes, it's worth looking at [12:18] oki ;) [12:19] Riddell: to be honnest, although I really respect the work that was done on it, guidance is a bit limited compared to what mandriva, opensuse or redhat have.... [12:20] Riddell: but those tools are not really portable, that's why I'm interested in pardus, since their tools are as polished as the other distro's, but with a portable plateform [12:20] and I'm tired seeing the distros reinventing the wheel :) [12:21] Is guidance still actively maintained? [12:21] Last update of the homepage is one year old [12:22] woah [12:22] * apachelogger hugs smarter [12:22] I should upload my changes to the kubuntu-de site [12:23] mmh? [12:23] smarter: not really... the "active maintenance" is a large collection of kubuntu-patches atm. === neversfelde_ is now known as neversfelde [12:32] smarter: all the patches might be thrown into the guidance-svn after the hardy release, i think that's it ... but ScottK might know better/more than me === neversfelde_ is now known as neversfelde [13:13] will this lovely unicorn be the default wallpaper in hardy?^^ [13:13] muhahaha [13:20] I hope it's packaged as an alternative :) [13:21] nope..... it goes right in :) [13:21] :P [13:27] where is it? [13:27] just update your hardy [13:28] * Jucato "extracted" the jpeg to save it for posterity's sake :) [13:29] Hobbsee: see? pink. [13:30] for some reason the colo scheme doesn't come across :( [13:30] jpatrick: screenshot? [13:30] * Hobbsee isn't running kde... [13:31] Hobbsee: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop [13:31] man i still am laughing at the article Riddell posted on the dot [13:31] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HippyHorse/Omega/Kubuntu [13:31] -kde4* [13:31] kubuntu-kde4-desktop [13:32] Jucato: hahahaha [13:34] rofl! http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/foolsSS-wee.png ? [13:34] ya [13:35] Hobbsee: remove the -wee [13:36] mmm, tasty [13:37] jpatrick: heh..go over to #ubuntu+1 .... pretty hilarious over there... [13:37] nosrednaekim: I just did [13:37] well... its quite now <_< [13:37] *quiet [14:15] * Nightrose highfives txwikinger -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20080401/KDE [14:15] \o/ [14:16] * txwikinger hifives Nightrose back [14:16] ;-) [14:17] oh [14:17] yuriy: btw, would it be possible to announce hugs day a bit earlier [14:47] apachelogger: he did a few days ago [14:50] seele: I only got a mail todayish [15:09] oh arse, I uploaded kdebindings [15:12] part of April Fools? :) [15:14] so from the wiki i'm a bit confused has all the bugs been triaged/dealt with that are on the list for today? [15:20] jjesse: yes [15:20] however there are more out there waiting for you ;-) [15:20] ah then nothing to do :) === devilsadvocate_ is now known as devilsadvocate [15:55] jjesse: kiosktool doesn't work with KDE 4 [15:55] Riddell: dang it ok i will drop that section [15:55] jjesse: well [15:55] jjesse: it mostly describes editing files directory which should work [15:56] unless there is a better way of dealing with things? [15:56] ok i can tweak it [15:56] jjesse: just not the kiosktool GUI app [15:57] Riddell: ok thanks [15:57] jjesse: PDF viewer is Okular not KPDF [15:57] interesting i can't open a usb drive formated in ntfs in 8.04 i was able to in 7.10 [15:57] Riddell: making notes of things to change [15:57] jjesse: "Finding Help" KHelpCenter doesn't seem to work [15:58] in KDE 4 [15:58] ok [15:59] it opesn for me... do not have manuals loaded or are there not? [16:01] exactly, quite a notable bug [16:01] ok, so i have to remove the khelpcenter and reference gettign help on #kubuntu [16:01] or is it #kubuntu-kde4? [16:03] hmm, dunno [16:03] just #kubuntu probably fine [16:05] ok thanks have some minor tweaks then.... will change and upload later [16:06] arlight other question: anyone have any problems w/ USB drives formated in NTFS and mounting them? [16:07] what sort of problems? [16:08] "An error occurerd while accessing 'Volume (ntfs)', the system said: org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume.UnknownFailure: TODO: have to rething extra options" [16:09] that's "rethink" [16:09] maybe the last revision of http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/kdebase/kioslave/media/mediamanager/halbackend.cpp?view=log solve this [16:09] "- In case of ntfs external devices, hal can have the option for locale at mount" [16:10] this is under kde4 === \sh is now known as \sh_away === Riddelll is now known as Riddell [16:33] apachelogger: i try, but i'm trying to go along with the ubuntu ones and bdmurray and pedro usually don't warn me. but generally if you get mail from them you can expect a similar one from me [16:34] yuriy: do we have to go with ubuntu hug days? [16:34] we could do kubuntu hugs some days after the ones for ubuntu [16:35] we could [16:35] my original idea was when they're doing some gnome application we do the corresponding kde application, but there's really no particular reason to do it that way [16:36] except for things like networkmanager and powermanager where bugs may be duplicate in the backends [16:36] in which case i think it's potentially helpful [16:38] well.. the last day was pretty much ignored by a lot of people and you had warned a couple of days before yuriy [16:38] Riddell: ouch... apparently that package affected some users plasma themes... [16:39] nosrednaekim: oh? [16:39] nosrednaekim: ? === \sh_away is now known as \sh [16:40] http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3092837.0;topicseen [16:40] Riddell: btw, kdebindings is pretty much finished [16:40] but [16:40] lovely news... there will be independen releases of qtruby and kderuby [16:41] oh, grr [16:41] apachelogger: do you know why? [16:41] now, I'll ask some more [16:42] maybe they are just cutdown tarballs from kdebindings [16:42] txwikinger: yeah... thanks for helping out though [16:42] s/now/no [16:42] yuriy: No problem :) [16:49] Riddell: why would we package non-kdebindings releases anyway? [16:49] apachelogger: if they were more up to date, as seems to have happened with pykde [16:53] Riddell: more people use qtruby than korundum, so rdale wants to do seperate releases for it, I suggested to just create the tarball based upon whatever is the latest kdebindings tarball [16:54] * apachelogger doesn't really get why pykde and qtruby are in kdebindings if they follow their own release cycle anyway [16:59] * txwikinger wonders what happened to his KDE3 stuff === \sh is now known as \sh_away [17:00] txwikinger: new theme for hardy [17:00] jpatrick: No on gutsy [17:00] apachelogger: as far as I know qtruby is just developed in kde svn, so it would be a tar of what's in kdebindings [17:00] I get endless blocking when konq loads webpages [17:01] apachelogger: pykde guy likes to work his own way, and Sime keeps trying to have development opened up so Sime copies it to kdebindings [17:07] Riddell: maybe we should move Amarok to kdemm then -.- [17:22] Riddell: please take a look at http://aplg.kollide.net/kubuntu/kdebindings/ [17:30] HELP!!! [17:30] I can't get rid of this damn fluffy bunny theme :P [17:30] * nixternal liked the joke until it was played on me :D [17:33] * apachelogger changes one of nixternal's bug's status in tha most shameless way [17:35] * milian is away: Zur Zeit nicht da. [17:35] * Tm_T slaps milian [17:36] milian: public away messages sind phöööööse! [17:36] *lol* Tm_T - I just did the same in another channel ;-) [17:36] good [17:37] poor milian :( [17:37] * apachelogger hugs milian [17:39] umm, why did you set fluffy bunny as slim-glow? [17:40] nixternal: ? [17:40] easiest thing to do [17:40] lol [17:40] change it back quick!!!! [17:40] hahahahahaha [17:41] it is so.....omg.... [17:41] where? where? [17:41] this theme makes me feel like Paris Hilton [17:41] it's hot [17:42] WOOT!!! [17:43] anyone that has Fox News [17:43] turn it on..they are going to talk about the Macbook Air, the Vista machine, and the Ubuntu machine [17:43] * apachelogger only has KDE News [17:43] hacking thingy [17:43] nixternal: record it [17:43] come on, my tv is in the 1980s [17:44] it will more than likely end up on YouTube anyways [17:44] no DVB? no public service organisation other people pay for to record it for you? [17:44] * apachelogger doesn't even have a TV [17:44] apparently fox is also in the 80s since they have no web stream [17:45] can someone tell me what's stable in the hardy beta and steel needs more experimenting [17:48] omg, Fox News just lied [17:48] the said..."To be fair, the Vista and Linux products failed too" [17:48] I didn't hear that the Ubuntu laptop got hacked [17:49] apachelogger: "dpkg-source: cannot represent change to ruby/qtruby/tools/rbrcc/main.o: binary file contents changed" [17:50] rm makes a good workaround [17:53] * apachelogger opens gedit [18:04] nixternal: I missed that one [18:06] * txwikinger goes back with rewind [18:08] nixternal: Wasn't Fox News... was PC Magazine guy [18:09] * txwikinger wasn't aware that safari browser is part of ubuntu [18:11] hrmm can't find okular is that because i'm not spelling it right? [18:11] txwikinger: ya [18:11] jjesse: did you install it? [18:11] okular is correct jjesse [18:11] shouldn't it install by default in hardy kde4? [18:11] I really want this fluffy bunny gone [18:11] Riddell: when are we uploading 4.0.3? [18:12] Riddell: btw, did you add the necessary KDE 3 apps to the KDE 4 seed yet? [18:12] nixternal: edit the plasmarc [18:12] apachelogger: they overwrote slim-glow with fluffy bunny :p [18:13] nixternal: 4.0.3 is already uploaded (: [18:15] nixternal: yeah, you can switch to KDE 4 default until slim-glow is back :P [18:16] I overwrote it with my slim-glow :) [18:16] damn, I didn't even realize 4.0.3 was uploaded...time to hit the extragear uploads then [18:17] ok silly question.... hardy remix should use okular for pdfs correct? [18:17] extra-gear [18:17] that name is a pure strangeness [18:17] not finding it installed [18:17] Riddell: please also add okular to the seed :) [18:17] though [18:18] shouldn't okular be part of kubuntu-kde4-desktop? [18:18] hm [18:18] it isn't [18:19] i thought it should [18:20] Riddell: why is kde4-meta not in some bzr? + please add okular to k-k4-d [18:25] holy crap [18:25] * yuriy hugs txwikinger and Nightrose [18:25] ;-) [18:25] * txwikinger hugs yuriy back [18:25] * Nightrose hugs yuriy back [18:25] why the holy crap? [18:25] damn you txwikinger [18:26] :P [18:26] stealing my lines [18:26] jjesse: first time i refreshed the hug day page today and it's already done [18:26] technically saied [18:26] Nightrose: I have that line copyrighted [18:26] Nightrose stole txwikinger's line [18:26] oO [18:26] yay [18:26] meh :p [18:26] that means no more work [18:28] * Nightrose foods and watches an episode of nip/tuck [18:34] just switched virtual desktop and saw the unicorn wallpaper for "real", shocking :P [18:35] Nightrose: btw, did I already show you my funky nu wallpaper? [18:35] apachelogger: nope show me show me ;-) [18:36] Nightrose: http://aplg.kollide.net/images/gnome/Screenshot-5.png [18:37] ahh /me likes [18:39] anyone know how to get system-config-samba working in hardy heron? [18:40] isn't that a fedora config tool? [18:40] no its in the repos [18:40] worked fine for me in gutsy [18:41] it just crashes all the time, form what i know its a known bug [18:41] i just want to know if there is a fix, or a workaround [18:42] uh [18:42] that's not a KDE/Qt app, is it? [18:43] plus this is not much of a support channel anyway, ForzaPalermo, you might be better off asking in #ubuntu I guess [18:43] i went there already :( [18:43] and no it snot [18:43] its for gnome i guess [18:43] ForzaPalermo: I guess it is the crash reported in bug #185543 [18:43] Launchpad bug 185543 in system-config-samba "system-config-samba.py crashed with SystemError in __init__()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185543 [18:44] First I did manage to test KDE in Spanish, now it doesn't want to go back to English :) [18:44] yes and i tried their fix [18:44] no go [18:44] did not^^ [18:46] * apachelogger waves [18:49] soo, no stdin yet [18:50] anyone else want to put 4.0.3 into the PPA? [18:50] Riddell: just because I don't speak doesn't mean I don't lurk ;) [18:50] hahaha [18:51] ah, stdin [18:51] my appologies [18:51] PPAs are quite backed-up though, and one i386 buildd is down :( [18:55] anyone here with konversation in kde 3.5.9 to confirm a bug for me? [18:55] yup [18:55] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/konversation/+bug/209368 [18:55] Launchpad bug 209368 in konversation "[hardy] OSD doesn't work in Konversation anymore" [Undecided,Incomplete] [18:55] it works just fine in kde 4 [18:58] Yuuki: ? [19:01] apachelogger: dpkg-deb: parse error, in file `debian/libkorundum4-ruby1.8-examples/DEBIAN/control' near line 7 package `libkorundum4-ruby1.8-examples': `Depends' field, reference to `libkorundum4-ruby1.8': version contains ` ' [19:02] Riddell: yeah, trying to fix that right now, but I have no clue why this is happening, probably because of shlibs:Depends [19:04] apachelogger: => should be >= [19:04] and ${source:Version} I think should be ${Source-Version} [19:04] Riddell: didn't work either from my trial [19:05] hm [19:05] source-version sounds resonable [19:05] ya Nightrose sorry, can't confirm it. didnt see the kde3.5.9 part [19:05] Yuuki: ok [19:06] anyone else with kde 3.5.9 on hardy? [19:08] hrmm, kgraphviewer's 4.0.3 release is broken [19:13] hooray [19:13] nixternal: poke toma [19:15] pokin' him already, plus sent and email to packagers [19:15] QPainterPath path; [19:15] path.addRegion(boundingRegion(QTransform())); [19:15] that is where the issue lies [19:15] that boundingRegion [19:30] Nightrose: pop-ups in konversation works fine for me (kde 3.5.9) [19:30] awen_: this is about OSD (the blue thing that pops up) [19:30] not the gray notification popups [19:30] does that work for you as well? [19:31] Nightrose: in which cases should it show? [19:31] on hilight if activated [19:31] awen_: go to settings -> on screen display to check [19:32] Nightrose: just found it... [19:32] Nightrose: nope, nothing happens... broken [19:32] ok thx awen_ [19:32] Nightrose: np [19:33] seems tonios fix for kde 4 broke kde 3 :( [19:33] * Nightrose will update the bugreport [19:35] Nightrose: yeah... that's the risky part about having to use all those kde3 apps on kde4 [19:35] hmmm [19:43] Nightrose: what did he fix? [19:43] apachelogger: the "no osd in kde 4" problem [19:43] oh [19:43] eh [19:43] because of the screensaver check [19:44] I send him an email [19:44] didn't he just apply the upstream change? [19:44] IIRC dfaure just removed the whole part where konvi checks for kscreensaver [19:44] no idea [19:45] muhahaha, great unicorn! :) [19:45] ;-) [19:45] nice joke :)) [19:45] sweet isn't it? [19:45] * milian_ is back. [19:45] groovy!)) [19:45] * Nightrose slaps milian again :P [19:45] milian_: too [19:45] Nightrose: http://websvn.kde.org/?view=rev&revision=764087 http://websvn.kde.org/?view=rev&revision=765412 [19:45] pfft [19:45] bah [19:45] sure [19:46] my schweetheart doesn't need to know anything -.- [19:46] apachelogger: I know that commit - I just don't know what tonio changed [19:46] go ahead like this and I will be seriously pissed [19:46] * apachelogger gives milian an old xmas cookie [19:46] Riddell: kgraphviewer is qt4.4 now :/ [19:46] Nightrose: just tell him to use these to 2 changes [19:46] and nothing else [19:46] as in [19:46] nothing === milian_ is now known as milian [19:46] only changes besides some code to adapt to qt4.4 was...well nothing [19:47] * Nightrose cuddles apachelogger [19:47] ;-) [19:47] sorry Nightrose - wlan is causing netsplit havoc [19:47] Nightrose: make sure to tell him - nothing [19:47] milian: netsplit doesn't puplicly announce your away message - does it? [19:47] nixternal: just don't update the package then [19:48] apachelogger: I already send the mail to tonio - want me to send another one? ,-) [19:48] hum? no, i just did /away and /back ... no go in IRC? wont do it then [19:48] Nightrose: with certain kinds of sun winds it does [19:48] oh and the moon as to be in the right angle as well [19:48] Nightrose: plz [19:48] milian: the problem is not the marking of away and back [19:48] the problem is the messages your irc client associated with them [19:48] [20:45:20] -*- milian_ is back. [19:48] apachelogger: ok will do [19:49] apachelogger: I'll have a look at konversations configuration then ;-) [19:49] milian: in the settings of your identity for the server [19:49] you can change it there [19:50] go to file -> server list -> edit a server -> ... [19:50] yep Nightrose - found it, thank you [19:50] no prob ;-) [19:51] * Nightrose hugs milian [19:51] there [19:51] first she almost beats him to death [19:51] and now she hugs him [19:51] Nightrose: that is so schizophrenic IMHO [19:51] isn't that what I always do apachelogger? [19:52] hold on [19:52] don't I do that as well? [19:52] -.- [19:53] :p [19:53] apachelogger: bug 208528 ... i think your last change to amarok might have broken something? [19:53] Launchpad bug 208528 in amarok "Amarok just crashed without user interaction" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/208528 [19:53] sure [19:53] man, kpovmodeler is a tank of an app [19:53] blame the motu [19:53] hahahaha [19:56] apachelogger__: hmm he might not have used the second commit... [19:56] anyway [19:56] sent the mail === uga|away is now known as uga [19:57] for some unknown reason I lost the connection to quassel [19:57] version strange [19:57] *very even [20:02] i think apachelogger has become yoda [20:04] jjesse: what makes you think that? [20:05] apachelogger__: the last couple of comments from you seemed very disjointed and yoda-like [20:06] well, maybe I really became yoda-like [20:16] Riddell: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2008-March/026500.html [20:18] * smarter just fixed his F12 key [20:18] woohoo. [20:18] smarter: I told you not to try to take it off with a screwdriver [20:20] jpatrick: that's intentional [20:24] * nixternal wishes there was better documentation for lintian [20:24] anybody has an mp3 player and is on kde3 that can test if bug 210418 happens for you? [20:25] #210418 [20:25] Launchpad bug 210418 in amarok "[hardy] amarok crashes when mp3 player controlled by amarok is plugged in and automounted" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/210418 [20:25] awen_: give me a moment to log out and log in [20:26] nareshov: thanks [20:26] how do I do step 1. ? [20:26] 1. Be sure that the mp3-player is set to be handled by amarok (as generic audio player) [20:26] nareshov: plug it in... go to settings > media players > autodetect ... make your choice [20:26] k [20:27] * nareshov C-a-a-d's [20:33] awen_: did not crash [20:34] * nareshov is on hardy [20:35] * awen_ is on hardy too [20:35] nareshov: okay... thanks [20:36] yw [20:41] Riddell: postinst-has-useless-call-to-ldconfig <- any idea on fixing this with kpovmodeler? [20:42] shrug, it's not a big problem [20:42] infact, it might well be needed [20:43] ya it is, because it is going into /usr/lib/kde4/lib and not /usr/lib [20:46] so its just lintian being silly === uga is now known as uga|away [21:00] oh, anyone on the k-m-kde4 mailing list may be getting a lot of emails today, so be warned :) [21:01] too late ;-) [21:01] you're lucky, I get them twice :p [21:01] hehe [21:01] one from the list and one from the PPA buildd [21:01] yea [21:02] * Riddell hugs stdin [21:04] I just installed kde4 hardy and was very suprised with the ugly decoration ! [21:04] Is there a way of taking it away ? [21:04] it looks like white ribbons ? [21:04] I don't understand why kde4 is such horrible ? [21:04] hahhaaha, from kubuntu-users list [21:06] * stdin just saw that [21:06] part of the reason I've stopped paying attention to the list [21:07] nixternal: point him to kde-look.org [21:07] assumption of him [21:09] daskreech: 4.1 betas in debian now (I think) [21:10] jpatrick: Beta of what? [21:10] nixternal: heh, I just replied [21:10] daskreech: kde 4.1 [21:10] KDE 4.1 hasn't hit alpha yet [21:10] April fools :) [21:11] it going alpha 4 days after Hardy ships [21:11] daskreech: tell that to debian-devel-changes [21:13] snapshots then [21:15] jpatrick: sweet :) [21:15] stdin: nice flood :P [21:15] is it one shot or will they be doing regular snapshots? [21:17] apachelogger: I can't help it if everything I upload fails and sends you an email informing you of my lameness :p [21:17] daskreech: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-kde-talk/2008-April/000872.html [21:19] stdin: you could testbuild them on your local machine :P [21:19] apachelogger: I could, but then I'd probably still be building kde4libs [21:20] stdin: well [21:20] Riddell: you could make the packages available to stdin as soon as they are ready, right? [21:21] then he would have time to testbuild, also currently when some modules fail it always leads to dependency breakage which then again results in useless bug reports I have to triage :P [21:21] I was a few hours late picking them up today actually [21:21] 1st upload was ~15:00UTC [21:22] oh another thought [21:22] stdin: don't they always break for the very same reasons? [21:22] 4.0.x should be quite stable when talking about dependencies [21:22] it's adjusting the dependencies to gutsy's stagnant pool [21:23] yeah, but the build-dependencies [21:23] stdin: you could just create a list of things that need to be changed [21:24] store it in a bzr branch for kubuntu-members-kde4 [21:24] might be quite useful in the future as well I guess [21:24] there were a couple things I needed to change for 4.0.3 that were fine in 4.0.2 [21:24] * stdin should probably write them down [21:33] stdin: go for it [21:33] ScottK: i've been trying to look into bug 124856 ... the problem seems to be that getDevices() in mountconfig/MicroHal.py returns a Partition object (but what I can see, that is in no way possible); then again might be my limited knowledge of python that is the problem, if you can have a quick look at that function [21:33] Launchpad bug 124856 in kde-guidance ""Disk&Filesystems" module does not load after plugging in iPod" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124856 [21:57] * yuriy needs to learn to refresh [21:57] * Jucato presses yuriy's F5 button [21:59] * jpatrick clears yuriy cache. [21:59] * etretyak writing for yuriy $ pacman -Syu [22:00] * etretyak ooops.. wrong channel.. writing for yuriy sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get update [22:00] etretyak: traitor [22:00] * etretyak nm.. i'm drunk.. :-) [22:00] ;-) [22:01] * Jucato emerge --unmerge jpatrick [22:02] * jpatrick /kline Jucato [22:02] ERRNOPERMS [22:03] * etretyak whant ubuntu messenger bag [22:03] jpatrick: as long as it's not /gline, I'll survive :) [22:03] * etretyak me participated in LP logo contest [22:06] is there any LP members? :) vote for my logo :) [22:07] where's tit [22:10] CheGuevara: https://help.launchpad.net/logo/submissions ;) [22:32] stdin: mails are getting less - build getting better as well? *g* [22:34] Nightrose: getting there, yeah :) [22:34] \o/ [22:34] ;-) [22:36] Riddell: btw, when did you get "dpkg-source: cannot represent change to ruby/qtruby/tools/rbrcc/main.o: binary file contents changed"? [22:37] apachelogger: not sure now [22:38] well, I can't reproduce it debuild && debuild -S doesn't complain [22:38] ignore it then [22:38] k [22:39] I'll upload the new version [22:39] "new" [22:39] apachelogger: to where? [22:39] kollide [22:39] ok [22:42] Riddell: I'm guessing I can send the required stuff to the canonical people? [22:43] Riddell: http://aplg.kollide.net/kubuntu/kdebindings/ [22:43] hmm, kdemultimedia's broken [22:43] ryanakca: dunno, newzum contacted me earlier though [22:43] Riddell: ok, well, elmo just told me to file an RT when I'm ready, so I guess I'll do that after supper :) [22:44] ok [22:46] stdin: omg what did you do? [22:46] you can't break mm :S [22:46] ah [22:46] ha [22:46] apachelogger: not me, it's broken in hardy too === xRaich[o12x is now known as xRaich[o]2x [22:47] even better [22:47] stdin: well, no [22:47] do i mean kdemultimedia? [22:47] on hardy it builds on i386 at least [22:47] yes [22:47] hmm, something broke anyway [22:48] stdin: well, the deps are wrong [22:48] there is no libxklavier12 [22:48] only 11 [22:49] ahh, I meant kdesdk [22:49] that's the one that wasn't broken by me [22:51] hm [22:51] I guess it doesn't build kstartperf at all [22:51] question is why [22:52] I added kstartperf for 4.0.3 [22:52] but it's missing something needed to build it [22:54] !info libltdl3-dev [22:54] Package libltdl3-dev does not exist in gutsy [22:54] good to know [22:54] !info libltdl3-dev gutsy [22:55] !info libltdl3-dev hardy [22:55] Package libltdl3-dev does not exist in hardy [22:55] I give up [22:55] Riddell: please add libltdl3-dev as build-depends [22:55] hm [22:55] doing [22:56] stdin: please remove it then again, and don't forget to remove the kstartperf files from .installs [22:56] * apachelogger needs to get something to eat [23:00] oo 4.0.3 [23:03] stdin: actually, don't remove it, ubotu lied to me ;-) [23:03] apachelogger: I checked too, so I didn't :)