[00:00] <ubuntu> So I'm running badblocks on it and it has reported a couple dozen unrecoverable errors (relocation failed, media error etc)
[00:01] <FrauHansen> yeiks, sounds ugly
[00:01] <ubuntu> ugly indeed
[00:02] <ubuntu> I backed up my home dir and didn't get any errors, hopefully stuff still works after a restore
[00:03] <its43> thanks for the try frau but no dice, that not what i meant, I'm trying to get my comp to allow me to run my X Box Live thru it, I need to know how to set it up lol
[00:05] <its43> i was doing it before when this comp was on windows XP, then a bug made me need a new operation system so now i have linux thanks to my friend, known on here as KAKiller
[00:07] <[ka]killer> what its43 wants to do is share the connection ofthe computer hes on right now with his xbox
[00:08] <FrauHansen> you mean that it goes like this Xbox --> YourPC --> internet?
[00:08] <[ka]killer> yes
[00:08] <its43> now this is wierd, I'm talkin to KAK on here and on aim and on my laptop ..........
[00:08] <[ka]killer> i would have set it up for him yesterday but ive never set up sharing like that on linux before
[00:09] <[ka]killer> you could have just asked me tojoin
[00:09] <its43> dude, you know good and well I'm clinically challenged, good idea's dont come to me only bad ones
[00:09] <mefisto__> its43: take a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=152555
[00:11] <LjL> !test
[00:11] <ubot3> Failed.
[00:11] <Ubotwo> Failed.
[00:11] <Ace2016> Failed!
[00:11] <Ace2016> LjL: what are you trying to get the bot to do?
[00:12] <LjL> work.
[00:12] <FrauHansen> its43: or this one: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-91370.html
[00:12] <[ka]killer> i think the command line  scares him
[00:13] <FrauHansen> [ka]killer: that could be. i was affraid of it too^^
[00:14] <[ka]killer> i jsut set him up with kubuntu yesterday, his windows commited suicide and he had absolutly no windows disks that worked =/
[00:14] <its43> indeed it does..........
[00:15] <mefisto__> its43: it's only day 1
[00:15] <FrauHansen> but i think he should start working with the command on smaller problems than this one
[00:16] <[ka]killer> hey
[00:16] <[ka]killer> yeah*
[00:16] <Daisuke_Ido> even coming from a dos background, it scared the bejesus out of me the first time i witnessed the evil known as "regular expressions"
[00:16] <[ka]killer> xD
[00:16] <[ka]killer> sudo rm -rf /
[00:16] <[ka]killer> <3
[00:16] <Daisuke_Ido> !evil
[00:16] <ubot3> Factoid evil not found
[00:16] <its43> yeah day 1 and I'm allready talking to Mefistopoles trying to get my windows back from the depths of hell
[00:16] <LjL> DON'T type that command
[00:17] <its43> its prolly on level 7
[00:17] <mefisto__> yeah you should warn that that command shouldn't be used
[00:17] <Daisuke_Ido> its43, trust me, windows is better off there.
[00:17] <its43> not when its the only thing i know how to use
[00:17] <jast-mxm> hello, is there any way to configure Kate so that each new file you open will just open another tab rather than a new kate window?
[00:18] <Daisuke_Ido> and therein lies the problem
[00:18] <Daisuke_Ido> you don't know how to use other things because you haven't tried using other things
[00:19] <FrauHansen> jast-mxm: mine does this by default
[00:19] <Daisuke_Ido> i assure you, it's nowhere near as difficult as it seems right now
[00:19] <its43> well there was really no point in trying something knew when the old thing still worked
[00:19] <jast-mxm> hmm i'm using kde4 and when they are not openng liek this by default
[00:19] <jast-mxm> i can't seem to find an option to turn that on either
[00:19] <Daisuke_Ido> if people throughout history had thought that way, we'd still be living in caves and beating each other over the head
[00:20] <tux_> french channel?
[00:20] <Daisuke_Ido> !fr | tux_
[00:20] <ubot3> tux_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[00:20] <its43> I'm diagnosed clinically with acute insanity, the cave and bludgeoning thing ..... sounds fun to me
[00:20] <FrauHansen> !kde-4 | jast-mxm
[00:20] <ubot3> Factoid kde-4 not found
[00:20] <FrauHansen> worked an hour ago^^
[00:21] <FrauHansen> !kde4 | jast-mxm
[00:21] <ubot3> jast-mxm: KDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[00:21] <jast-mxm> lol
[00:21] <FrauHansen> got my drift? ^^
[00:22] <jast-mxm> Frauhansen: thanks
[00:23] <FrauHansen> well, now here is my problem of the day: the update manager does't show in the "tray" on startup like it used to, whats wrong? where are the settings for that?
[00:24] <anais> spanish
[00:24] <jast-mxm> #kubuntu-es ?
[00:25] <jast-mxm> anais: #kubuntu-es
[00:25] <mefisto__> FrauHansen: the program is adept_notifier
[00:26] <mefisto__> FrauHansen: maybe you just don't have any updates?
[00:27] <FrauHansen> ah! seems like i disabled it by accident. thanks. fixed. (will see hopefully tomorrow)
[00:27] <spiroo> whats wrong with latest Live CD with Beta1? I cannot find the features
[00:28] <FrauHansen> there are no features, its called "bug" when its beta
[00:29] <FrauHansen> no, just kidding, i have no idea what you are talkin about
[00:29] <spiroo> For instance, after I isntalled with CD, I cannot access greater resolution than 800x600 or desktop effects or anything.
[00:29] <spiroo> When I upgraded from Gutsy to Hardy, it worked perfect.
[00:30] <[ka]killer> when i went from fetsy to gutsy i got all screwy
[00:30] <spiroo> Feels that some packages not were installed ...
[00:31] <knoppix> I need help with kubuntu install
[00:33] <mefisto__> knoppix: you need to be more specific
[00:33] <knoppix> when walking through the kubuntu install...when I get to the partitioning of the hard drives, it lists my hard drives in the wrong order...calls my IDE main hd 'sdb' and my secondary SATA hd 'sda' so when the install is complete on the main drive it will not boot after install
[00:34] <jast-mxm> hmm no one in kubuntu-kde4 will answer me :(
[00:35] <knoppix> it lists all drives as SCSI 1, 3, 5, 7 etc...1 is SATA drive (slave), 3 is IDE drive (master), 5 & 7 are both USB HDs
[00:36] <knoppix> however when I just now booted this knoppix live cd, knoppix recognizes the drive correctly as hda, sda, sdb...
[00:37] <knoppix> I reflashed my BIOS and made sure they choose IDE first, then SATA, then USB etc but no luck within the Kubuntu installs
[00:38] <FrauHansen> does it install on the correct drive?
[00:38]  * DOOM_NX auto to 'diafanes-perituligma-me-tis-fouskales-pou-kanoun-tsoukou-tsoukou-kai-ka8ontai-oloi-kai-tis-spane-san-upnwtismenoi', 3erei kaneis pws legetai me mia le3h?
[00:39] <mefisto__> knoppix: if you mount the disk, look in /boot/grub for a file named device.map
[00:39] <FrauHansen> perhaps it only the order in the installer is wrong... you should be able to fix this later
[00:40] <knoppix> it installs on the drive that I select in the partitioning section, however when I reboot it won't boot and the mount point on the / partition has been changed to /media/sdb1 etc
[00:40] <FrauHansen> important thing is that the system doesn't end up on the wrong drive
[00:41] <FrauHansen> how far do you get when booting?
[00:41] <mefisto__> if you have the device.map file, just edit it so grub knows which disk is which, like this: (hd0)   /dev/sda
[00:42] <knoppix> it gets a GRUB error 17
[00:43] <FrauHansen> try changing the boot entry. i think with "e" you can edit
[00:44] <FrauHansen> and change hd(0,2) to hd(1,2) or whatever it is you got there
[00:45] <FrauHansen> this change is now permanet, however
[00:45] <FrauHansen> now=NOT
[00:45] <FrauHansen> typo
[00:46] <FrauHansen> or, if you are on a live system, try what mefisto__ said
[00:46] <FrauHansen> good luck to you. i'm outta here. nite.
[00:47] <knoppix> I just deleted all partitions on all the drives...
[00:47] <mefisto__> knoppix: to do it properly, see this page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945 and see the post by mbwardle at the end of the page
[00:49] <knoppix> so should I try the install again on the main IDE drive (showing as sdb or scsi3) in the install...then try to point to the IDE drive after the install?
[00:51] <mefisto__> knoppix: the problem is grub is treating your sata disk as the first and the ide disk as second. it ignores bios settings. (kubuntu names them all sda, sdb, etc) so you have to tell grub what order you want your disks
[00:55] <mefisto__> knoppix: setting the sata disk as first drive in bios settings and then installing might also be a solution
[00:56] <knoppix> I'll try that...thanks mefisto__
[01:00] <knoppix> mefisto__, I am going to walk back through the install again...I'm planning on putting the / on my main IDE 30GB drive, and using the other SATA & USB drives as storage only...when I partition the storage drives, can you recommend a mount point to select or fs to choose etc?
[01:04] <mefisto__> knoppix: probably mounting the storage drives in /media is best, so kubuntu features will work best. eg, make dirs /media/sata and /media/usb and mount them there
[01:04] <knoppix> thanks for all your help and advice mefisto__
[01:05] <mefisto__> np
[01:06] <recon> Is it a known bug that Konqueror's flash doesn't accept keypresses, or some bizarre error on my end?
[01:08] <Jim_Morrison> hi
[01:22] <MrBarrett> my amarok wont play mp3 needs decoder.... what do i do?
[01:22] <MrBarrett> on kibuntu 7.1
[01:23] <MrBarrett> *kubuntu
[01:27] <MrBarrett> !mp3
[01:27] <ubot3> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:43] <siddthartha> неспящие есть?
[01:44] <vince_> Good evening, I was wondering if someone could help me with Beryl/Emerald
[01:44] <vince_> I'm using Kubuntu
[01:44] <siddthartha> мне бы самому кто помог
[01:44] <siddthartha> i need help too)
[01:45] <siddthartha> but with KNetworkManager
[01:47] <MrBarrett> <--- want a standalone mp3 mpeg player with user friendly installation on kubuntu 7.1
[01:47] <MrBarrett> please?
[01:47] <vince_> Mr Berrett, Is there somethign wrong with Amerok?
[01:47] <MrBarrett> with decoder
[01:47] <MrBarrett> yeah on decoder
[01:47] <vince_> Oh you don't have the MP3 Decoder is that the issue?
[01:47] <MrBarrett> *no
[01:48] <MrBarrett> yes no decoder
[01:48] <vince_> Use Automatix
[01:48] <MrBarrett> where is Automatix?
[01:48] <vince_> It will enable a bunch of things that is disabled by default due to draconian US Copyright laws
[01:48] <MrBarrett> <--- newdie
[01:49] <vince_> http://www.getautomatix.com/
[01:49] <MrBarrett> tar
[01:49] <Jucato> !automatix
[01:49] <ubot3> Automatix is no longer developed or supported by its creators and is not recommended, supported or needed by Ubuntu. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[01:50] <siddthartha> vince_ help me too please, may be you know why knetworkmanager may ignore all my network devices ?
[01:51] <vince_> siddtharatha: Im not an expert by any means..  Do you have networking avalible on the machine or are the devices compleately disabled?
[01:51] <siddthartha> all network devices works good
[01:52] <siddthartha> but manager said there're no any devices
[01:52] <siddthartha> (
[01:54] <siddthartha> ok, nevermind... its not critical
[01:54] <yakuzi> well are you using a wired connection now and have wireless on without being connected?
[01:54] <siddthartha> both of them
[01:54] <siddthartha> eth0 and wlan0
[01:55] <yakuzi> well if i use wired and have wireless on without connection on the wireless, i've the same, nothing to worry about
[01:55] <vince_> Apparently mine is the same way as well ;-)
[01:55] <illusionize> could somebody go into there KDE Menu and tell me what the command they have for Dolphin is
[01:55] <MrBarrett> hey vince i got automatrix and on install it says Error Dependency is not satisfiable tango icon theme common???
[01:55] <vince_> d3lphin %i %m -caption "%c" %u
[01:56] <illusionize> cheers
[01:57] <lovre> how do i login as root in terminal session
[01:57] <lovre> ?
[01:57] <siddthartha> su
[01:57] <Jucato> lovre: sudo -i
[01:57] <lovre> not working
[01:57] <MrBarrett> vince?
[01:57] <lovre> thx Jucato
[01:58] <vince_> MrBarrett: Standby
[01:58] <vince_> Looking it up now
[01:58] <MrBarrett> ok
[01:58] <vince_> lovure: You don't.  Use SUDO instead
[01:58] <MrBarrett> tar
[01:59] <vince_> MrBarrett: Ok forget automatix its been a long time since i've used it and apparently its broken and not maintained now
[01:59] <MrBarrett> mp3s?
[01:59] <vince_> MrBarrett: Hang on i'm looking up how to do it without automatix ;-)
[01:59] <vince_> We'll get your MP3's working just give me a moment :-)
[02:00] <MrBarrett> bless you
[02:00] <vince_> Ok MrBarrett lets try this
[02:01] <vince_> Go to your K menu and go to System -> Adept Manager
[02:01] <lovre> i cant send mail using mailx command. Why is this?
[02:01] <vince_> It's going to ask for your user password
[02:01] <DOOM_NX> can anyone suggest the best/most advanced DC client for ubuntu?
[02:02] <MrBarrett> loading...
[02:02] <MrBarrett> ok
[02:02] <vince_> Alrighty
[02:02] <vince_> ok
[02:02] <vince_> Go to the many bar
[02:02] <vince_> Adept -> Manage Repositories
[02:03] <yakuzi> ok i've a question for you guys: the irc server, is it doing WHO-IS on it's own, or are some sers doing this? reason i ask... i'm trying to check my network with a sniffer (educational purposes only) and i get a lot of WHO-IS on me...
[02:03] <MrBarrett> ok
[02:03] <yakuzi> *users
[02:03] <vince_> MrBarrett: Make sure that all the Kubuntu Software Repositories are checked
[02:03] <vince_> Main
[02:03] <vince_> Universe
[02:03] <vince_> Restricted
[02:03] <vince_> and Multiverse
[02:04] <MrBarrett> my kubuntu pc is not online
[02:04] <lovre> can someone please tell me how to send email from kubuntu? I tried mailx but its not working. I tried /usr/sbin/sendmail and its not working either
[02:04] <kgoetz> yakuzi: ask in #freenode
[02:04] <vince_> lovure: Are we talking about standard mail here or is this for a server type setup?
[02:04] <kgoetz> yakuzi: i expect its the IRCD
[02:05] <lovre> vince_: standard mail i suppose. I just want to make a script that would send a mail....
[02:05] <yakuzi> i wouldn't be surprised...it's too much and too synchronous ;-)
[02:05] <vince_> lovure: Do you get any specific errors when you try and send mail?
[02:05] <kgoetz> lovre: you'll have to install/configure a mailer (postfix is ubuntu prefered, exim is popular though)
[02:06] <lovre> kgoetz: can you elaborate a bit please? What is that program?
[02:06] <vince_> MrBarrett: Well I can walk you through this if you have your Kubuntu PC open
[02:06] <lovre> kgoetz: its SMTP server?
[02:06] <MrBarrett> its next to me
[02:07] <kgoetz> lovre: yeah
[02:07] <kgoetz> !postfix | lovre
[02:07] <ubot3> lovre: postfix is the default !MTA and !MDA on Ubuntu. For help, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto - See also !MailServer
[02:07] <yakuzi> lovre: do you want to have an E-mail app like thunderbird or outlook? then you can try Kontact (it has a mail-part in it, also a calndar etc)
[02:07] <vince_> MrBarrett is it booted and online?
[02:08] <MrBarrett> kubutu is running but no connection
[02:08] <MrBarrett> i can usb drive any files across
[02:08] <vince_> ok
[02:10] <vince_> I don't know how to do it without the Repositories but what you need is the "libxine-extracodecs" package.
[02:10] <lovre> yakuzi: i need something to make it possible for me to send mail from my script
[02:11] <MrBarrett> is all i need on the DVD version of kubuntu??
[02:11] <MrBarrett> i have installed the live cd 7.1
[02:12] <MrBarrett> i can get the DVD version
[02:12] <kgoetz> lovre: you'll need to setup postix first :)
[02:12] <vince_> MrBarrett; The files are not part of the Kubuntu distro by default because of Licencing issues I doubt its on the disks
[02:13] <Wrath> you mean libxine1-ffmpeg ?
[02:13] <Jucato> vince_: it's libxine1-ffmpeg now
[02:13] <MrBarrett> how hard is it to set up my optus usb wireless on kubuntu?
[02:14] <lovre> kgoetz: is it hard to use it?
[02:14] <vince_> MrBarrett: No idea.. Plug it in and see if it works is all I could suggest
[02:14] <Wrath> just download the package from http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/libxine1-ffmpeg ?
[02:14] <lovre> kgoetz: could you offer some quick help
[02:14] <lovre> kgoetz: pm?
[02:14] <MrBarrett> it plugs and plays on win xp
[02:14] <kgoetz> lovre: ask here :)
[02:14] <kgoetz> lovre: i'm at work, so i'm looking here intermitantly.
[02:14] <vince_> MrBarrett: Good chance it will in Kubuntu as well though no garuntees.
[02:14] <MrBarrett> i tryied on ku but nothing happened
[02:15] <vince_> I know my Belkin works.
[02:15] <lovre> kgoetz: well, i installed it, but i dont know what now. how to use it..
[02:15] <kgoetz> lovre: have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto . do you have any questions after reading that?
[02:15] <lovre> kgoetz: sec
[02:15] <MrBarrett> i know nothing about a manual internet setup on kubuntu
[02:16] <vince_> MrBarrett: Neither do I, I suggest typing the card name with UBUNTU or KUBUNTU in google and see what you can find
[02:16] <MrBarrett> look for a driver?
[02:16] <yakuzi> lovre: i thounk you should try to acces a standard mail-program from within your script...(like open a compose-mail window, automaticly fill in all needed stuff, send it and close all relted stuff properly or something like that)
[02:17] <kgoetz> yakuzi: dont be rediculous
[02:17] <vince_> Does anyone know anything about setting up Emerald and Beryl on Kubuntu?
[02:17] <Jucato> !compiz | vince_
[02:17] <ubot3> vince_: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[02:17] <MrBarrett> i dont want to have to turn to bill gates to listen to my mp3s
[02:18] <jareth> Hey, i was wondering about a potential error w/ Kopete and Pidgin, i reformatted to kubuntu today because i needed to reformat and wanted to try something other than gnome, but my friend on pidgin (a windows user) gets the wrong encoding type error when i message them . . . . any ideas?
[02:18] <yakuzi> kgoetz: well that's what i would try...with my limited linux knowledge, i'm sure there are better ways
[02:18] <MrBarrett> Someone give me a Macintosh
[02:18] <jareth> why do you need windows to listen to Mp3?s
[02:18] <jareth> mp3s*
[02:19] <MrBarrett> no decoder
[02:19] <kgoetz> yakuzi: dont try it :) theres two much better ways that i can think of off the top of my head
[02:19] <jareth> there are decoders :)
[02:19] <vince_> Jereth: Because MP3 support can't be incl;ided by default and his Kubuntu box has no netaccess so he can't pull them fromt he repositories
[02:19] <vince_> and Thats the only way I know to do it
[02:19] <jareth> o ><
[02:19] <jareth> that sucks
[02:19] <jareth> why not just download the .deb for it
[02:19] <jareth> and bring it to the rig?
[02:20] <kgoetz> jareth: dependancies
[02:20] <vince_> dependancies
[02:20] <jareth> how many dependencies does a mp3 decoder need lol
[02:20] <lovre> kgoetz: i do what it says, but its just not working
[02:20] <lovre> kgoetz: no errors, but the mail is not delivered
[02:20] <vince_> MrBarrett: Do you have any networking support built into the machine you want to load the decoders on?
[02:20] <Jucato> kgoetz: he can see the list of dependencies and download those that he needs from http://packages.ubuntu.com
[02:20] <sudobash> have you tried movie players also
[02:20] <sudobash> ?
[02:20] <lovre> kgoetz: maybe if im behind the router? does it have anything to do with it?
[02:21] <jareth> no one else has gotten the wrong encoding type error w/ pidgin before?
[02:21] <kgoetz> Jucato: he can, but its going to be anoying, especially if the depends need depends
[02:21] <MrBarrett> dont think so
[02:21] <Jucato> kgoetz: better than nothing
[02:21] <Jucato> !aptoncd
[02:21] <ubot3> APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
[02:21] <vince_> MrBarrett: See this sucks,  If you had networking it would take about 4 mouse clicks LOL
[02:21] <kgoetz> lovre: router wont be a problem for sending. your isp might be. i dont know enough detail to help you properly. how did you configure it? how are you trying to send mail?
[02:22] <knoppix> mefisto__, I'm back...finished the install...still got the error 17...used supergrub disk...now getting error 22
[02:22] <vince_> What kind of USB card do you have agian?
[02:22] <MrBarrett> 1gb usb thum drive
[02:22] <vince_> Oh.... Its not a networking drive
[02:23] <kgoetz> knoppix: what are grub error 17 and 22?
[02:23] <MrBarrett> can you network 2 PCs via usb?
[02:23] <lovre> kgoetz: just as it said on the link you gave me. When i send from root@localhost to user@localhost, it worked. But when i send to someone@gmail.com, its not received on the other side
[02:23] <vince_> MrBarrett: Probobly though I've never done it
[02:23] <vince_> MrBarrett: Do you have a MODEM or ANYTHING? on the machine you can get on the net with?
[02:23] <knoppix> how can I gain su access to be able to edit menu.lst?...I tried with knoppix and it won't allow ascend to su etc
[02:23] <mefisto__> knoppix: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945 the post by mbwardle explains what you need to do
[02:24] <kgoetz> lovre: right. look in /var/log/mail.* for logs
[02:24] <MrBarrett> kubuntu is off line till i figure out the wireless modem im using now on the other PC
[02:26] <mefisto__> knoppix: sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst will edit it as root
[02:27] <MrBarrett> i'll try connect with kubuntu again see ya later and thanks
[02:27] <vince_> MrBarrett: Sorry I wasn't more help :-(
[02:28] <vince_> So does anyone know how to get Compix / Emerald runnign on Kubuntu?
[02:28] <lovre> kgoetz: is there any server on the internet i could log on with telnet to send?
[02:28] <kgoetz> lovre: i dont get the question
[02:29] <lovre> kgoetz: instead of running my smtp server, can i use an existing server that is allready running on the internet?
[02:29] <lovre> kgoetz: since i cant get it to work
[02:29] <sloth> why won't an archive extract if crc fails?
[02:30] <kgoetz> lovre: you should get your mail server working. its probably only configured to send local mail, not to relay or send remote
[02:30] <mefisto__> sloth: error during download?
[02:30] <sloth> no
[02:30] <Wrath> its probably corrupt sloth
[02:31] <sloth> -_-
[02:31] <knoppix> mefisto__, so how to I boot where I can get to console and not have the fs as read only?
[02:31] <lovre> kgoetz: can you help me with configure, any usefull link? im totally noob with this and i  should get this working by tomorrwo
[02:33] <kgoetz> lovre: /msg ubotu about postfix and mta and mda
[02:34] <kgoetz> i dont have a postfix server handy i can reconfigure to tell you what each step is
[02:35] <mefisto__> knoppix: you can edit the grub menu entry before boot if you hit "e" so you can change the entry to the right disk and boot kubuntu normally, then edit menu.lst device.map etc as root (sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst)
[02:35] <lovre> [03:35] [Error] ubotu: No such nick/channel.
[02:35] <lovre> kgoetz: [03:35] [Error] ubotu: No such nick/channel.
[02:35] <LjL> lovre: use ubotwo
[02:35] <LjL> err, ubot3
[02:37] <lovre> :S
[02:39] <kgoetz> afk
[02:39] <lovre> its just not working
[02:39] <dwidmann> knoppix: if you're running knoppix atm, you could rgith click the drive, go to properties, and change it to read write IIRC ........ not sure if you are or not, seeing as you're in here
[02:42] <dwidmann> LjL: why so many ubotu bots anyway?
[02:42] <LjL> dwidmann: because the main one's b0rked
[02:43] <dwidmann> LjL: yes, but still, why use different nicks for the backups?
[02:44] <Jucato> because they are different accounts
[02:44] <LjL> dwidmann: because i don't have the password for the other, for starters :)
[02:44] <dwidmann> LjL: ah, that would do it
[02:44] <LjL> dwidmann: also because we're planning on a better and automated backup system, but haven't quite managed to have it working yet, so we patch in backup bots as the need arises
[02:45] <BunnyRevolution> hi.  i would like to log into a computer remotely.  is there a way to set up a beacon?
[02:46] <dwidmann> BunnyRevolution: I'd use ssh, you'd need openssh-server installed on the computer you want to log into to do it though
[02:46] <BunnyRevolution> how would i know it's current ip address?
[02:46] <dwidmann> BunnyRevolution: can probably use its hostname
[02:47] <dwidmann> BunnyRevolution: unless its across the internet, in which case you would need to know its real ip address, which wouldn't necessarily be constant (most are dyanamic unless you pay more $)
[02:48] <BunnyRevolution> yes.  that is the problem.  i have 3 machines at a local genalogy library.  with the upcoming release of hardy, i'd like to upgrade and manage them remotely.
[02:49] <BunnyRevolution> what i wondered if they would say "here i am" to a server and i could connect either directly to them or via the server
[02:49] <dwidmann> BunnyRevolution: you could probably work out a script ot something to ftp/sftp its current ip address to a server on the net containing its current web ip address, or maybe you could have it emailed to your or something like that.
[02:50] <dwidmann> BunnyRevolution: you'd also need to set up the router to forward to the computer you want to access from across the net
[02:50] <BunnyRevolution> i was hoping there was something like webex i could put on a server
[02:50] <dwidmann> (I'm full of ideas, but I've never really tried it before)
[02:51] <mefisto__> what about krdc? does that do what BunnyRevolution wants? (I've never tried it)
[02:52] <dwidmann> mefisto__: hmm, might, but its definitely *slow* when running across the net
[02:52] <adrock358> Ok.  I had a dual install (win/ubunt).  I was having problems getting on the net and decided it would be better to just do a fresh install.  So, I erased the partition that ubuntu was installed on (on my WD 320 gb HD).  At the same time, I decided to increase my Windows Partition size, so I did that using Gparted.  I repartitioned the unallocated space, that partly housed my past Ubuntu installation.  So, I erased the Ubuntu partition from my singular HD
[02:53] <Matt1728> what's the command to install all of the java components?
[02:54] <dwidmann> Matt1728: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[02:54] <ahmos> hi, i can't access an ext3 partition (can't write)
[02:56] <vince_> Does anyone know how to enable Emerald | Beryl
[02:56] <vince_> | Compix, on Kubuntu?
[02:56] <adrock358> Anybody?
[02:56] <Jucato> vince_: didn't I give you a link already?
[02:56] <mefisto__> dwidmann: will that install them all? maybe sun-java6* would be better?
[02:57] <vince_> Jucato: If you did I didn't see it sir
[02:57] <ahmos> ha ha ha
[02:57] <Jucato> !compiz | vince_
[02:57] <ubot3> vince_: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[02:58] <vince_> jucato: Thank you
[02:58] <ahmos> now can any body help me
[02:59] <ahmos>  i can't access an ext3 partition (can't write)
[02:59] <dwidmann> mefisto__: it should ..... jdk depends on at least most of it
[02:59] <ahmos> there was a command i forgot it
[03:00] <lovre> does anyone know of any public SMTP relay i could use to send mail?
[03:00] <dwidmann> mefisto__: maybe it does depend on them all, or mayb e it's missing the plugin .... can't really tell because I run x86_64
[03:01] <mefisto__> ahmos: is the partition set up in fstab?
[03:02] <ahmos> yes
[03:02] <crazy_bus> I set up a Avermedia DVB 771 using instructions at the linuxtvwiki.  The remote connected to it is detected by kde automatically.  But I'm having trouble setting up lirc to change what each button does.  Is there a ways to change them without setting up lirc or can anyone help me install it?
[03:03] <mefisto__> ahmos: have you tried "sudo mount -a" ?
[03:04] <ahmos> mount: special device /dev/disk/by-uuid/74a982b9-ae61-48ff-a5e7-1e31d2a3895b does not exist
[03:04] <ahmos> i got that
[03:04] <ahmos> !paste
[03:04] <ubot3> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:06] <ahmos> there was a command like sudo chmod -r a+rw ,and by the way it is a fresh kubuntu and i am installing updates now
[03:09] <mefisto__> ahmos: if you type "mount" on its own, it will show you what is mounted and where, and whether it's rw or ro (read-only). what does it say for the problem disk?
[03:10] <ahmos> i got /dev/sdb2 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[03:13] <ahmos> sorry this is the one /dev/sdb3 on /media/sdb3 type ext3 (rw)
[03:15] <mefisto__> ahmos: can you write to it as root?
[03:16] <sudobash> root should be able to write to pretty much anything that isnt rom (read only material)
[03:16] <ahmos> yes
[03:16] <sudobash> if it is ntfs then use ntfs-3g
[03:16] <ahmos> no ext3
[03:17] <ahmos> ntfs is working proberly
[03:17] <sudobash> then root should be able to write
[03:17] <ahmos> yes but it is hard to use root every time
[03:18] <ahmos> and i had slved this issue before but i forgot how..
[03:18] <mefisto__> ahmos: ok so it's just permissions. is the dir you are trying to write to owned by another user on this machine? otherwise you could probably set up fstab better, if you want free access to write to the partion
[03:20] <mefisto__> ahmos: or leave fstab alone and chmod the files/directories you want to write to so you own them
[03:21] <kludge_> hey hey =)
[03:22] <ahmos> yes how to chmod plz
[03:23]  * kludge_ just lurks (watches and learns)
[03:28] <kludge_> So nice to see a channel of support for Kubuntu users. =)
[03:28] <sudobash> have you seen the channel list?
[03:28] <KLinux> kow do you install window decoration in kde 3.5?
[03:29] <kludge_> nope, just thought i'd give Konversation a bash, i'm used to the dreaded mIRC on win32/64
[03:29]  * kludge_ hides as he said the bad word :P
[03:29] <kgoetz> :@ :p
[03:29] <KLinux> there is no import button or anything
[03:29] <kludge_> hehe!. I'm actually so impressed with KUbuntu 8.03 Hardy Heron, it's actually got a place on my WD74GB raptor =)
[03:29] <crazy_bus> before I installed kdelirc my computer recognised some buttons on my infrared remote control.  Is there anyway to change what these buttons as irkick says it detects the device but doesn't do anything
[03:30] <LadyNikon> anyone know the default location of the vim colors folder?
[03:31] <kludge_> also, most impressively (or at least the reason i feel the latest KUbuntu 8.03 is better than any distro for a linux n00b to try, is it doesn't hate my graphics card OR sound card) \o/
[03:31] <mefisto__> ahmos: sorry, I was busy. "sudo chmod +w filename" will make the file writeable
[03:31] <kgoetz> LadyNikon: in /usr/share/vim/
[03:32] <LadyNikon> kgoetz: when i put a theme there.. it doesnt work out
[03:32] <LadyNikon> like dark is the default.
[03:32] <kgoetz> LadyNikon: you should put custom stuff in your ~/.
[03:32] <LadyNikon> when Ichange the background to a color in that folder.. it no worky
[03:32] <LadyNikon> kgoetz: put it there too.. no worky
[03:33] <LadyNikon> I had to create the .vim/colors folder
[03:33] <KLinux> so there is no way to add window decorations to kde 3.5?
[03:33] <kgoetz> LadyNikon: ask in #vim . its probably going to be much faster to ask there
[03:33] <LadyNikon> bleh
[03:33] <LadyNikon> another channel to join
[03:33] <LadyNikon> heh
[03:33] <kgoetz> KLinux: there probably is but no one here right now can tell you
[03:33] <kgoetz> i'm in 40, you cant complain :P
[03:33] <LadyNikon> KLinux: ask in the forums
[03:33] <LadyNikon> kgoetz: how do you know I am not in 50?
[03:34] <LadyNikon> and i can complain all i want :D
[03:34] <kludge_> /whois FTW
[03:34] <nonewmsgs> how do you use stirgi
[03:34]  * LadyNikon heads over to #vim
[03:34] <LadyNikon> kludge_: why does that win?
[03:34] <KLinux> is there some other program we use to decorate or does everyone just use the ones that come with the distro?
[03:34]  * kludge_ waves bye to LadyNikon =) good luck
[03:34] <kgoetz> LadyNikon: i dont, but its usuallya safe bet ;)
[03:35] <kludge_> i seem to be having a weird clash, and the nVidia drivers won't install... I'll plug away at it a while longer before i ask in here ;)
[03:36] <dwidmann> nonewmsgs: do { bang_head_against_wall(); } (while conscious);
[03:36] <KLinux> does emerald work independantly from compiz cuz i am using default vesa on ati and cant successfully change video drivers for 3d
[03:36] <nonewmsgs> dwidmann: hehehe.
[03:37] <kludge_> might disappear because i'm about to quit KNetworkManager
[03:38] <kludge_> hmm. seems to work without it :| damned extraneous programs running on my linux distro!
[03:40] <kgoetz> KLinux: you opted in ;)
[03:40] <kludge_> well, i was going to try a sexy 64bit linux, but KUbuntu 8.03 sucked me in so badly i can do without using half of my RAM  </3
[03:40] <kgoetz> 8.04 :)
[03:41] <kgoetz> theres 64bit install cds for 8.04
[03:41] <kludge_> ahh, 8.04 by bad, Hefty Heron
[03:41] <kgoetz> hardy :p
[03:41] <dwidmann> Hefty? kludge, **hardy** has feelings too!
[03:41] <kludge_> :P gimme a break you guys... Whats with all the dodgy names :P
[03:42] <kgoetz> hehe
[03:42] <kludge_> is it just to make windows sound even more mundane than it is? :P
[03:42] <Daisuke_Ido> 8.10 will be the point where i officially stop calling releases by their code name.
[03:42] <Daisuke_Ido> "intrepid ibex"
[03:42] <kgoetz> 'gutsy' was that release for me. here i will, in general use i dont anymore
[03:42] <kludge_> well i must say 8.03/8.04 i'm running is the only linux distro that has installed FLAWLESSLY from start to finish!... That's enough for me to give it some more time
[03:42] <KLinux> is 8.04 out? i havent used ubuntu in months
[03:43] <kgoetz> anotehr 3 weeks~
[03:43] <kludge_> Terratec Phase 28 Producer soundcard (Envy24 chipset) and GeForce 8800GT both recognised and installed perfectly... boots into X no problems at 1920x1200 resolution
[03:43] <mefisto__> you can install window decorations, eg "sudo apt-get install kwin-baghira"
[03:43]  * kludge_ whimpers submissively
[03:45] <kludge_> yippeeeeeeeeeeeeee! it's finally let me install proper nVidia drivers!
[03:45] <kludge_> Compiz here we come <3
[03:45] <KLinux> mefisto__: thanks for the info is there any other way to do it in KDE in general (im actually using suse)
[03:47] <mefisto__> KLinux: there is a kde gui program that does it, but I can't remember what it's called
[03:47] <KLinux> is it "dekorator" by chance?
[03:47] <KLinux> i have seen this on kde-look but dont know what it is
[03:48] <mefisto__> KLinux: yes that's it. never used it though
[03:48] <KLinux> ok
[03:48] <KLinux> ill check it out thanks for the info
[03:50] <TeslaTony> Does anyone know of a decent 3D CAD program?
[03:50] <TeslaTony> KDE or GNOME
[03:50] <kgoetz> does qcad do 3d?
[03:51] <mefisto__> no
[03:52] <mefisto__> but it's pretty good otherwise
[03:53] <TeslaTony> I need to draw some machine parts and such, which needs 3D
[03:56] <vLdSS> could someone point  me to a tutorial about installing a linux distro on a USB drive?
[03:58] <joinmeindeath> hi
[03:58] <dwidmann> Does anyone here know what would cause a grub error 16 (inconsistent filesystem structure) error?
[03:59] <joinmeindeath> i'm trying to use xen with kvm but i don't have /dev/kvm with linux-image-2.6.24-12-xen kernel
[03:59] <joinmeindeath> do you have any clue?
[04:01] <Jnaut> hey, I'm new to Kubuntu, from Ubuntu, it seems about the same but there is a complication. I'm trying to install a program called "frostwire" but I can't figure out how. "./configure" doesn't seem to work, can anyone help?
[04:05] <Jnaut> argh
[04:07] <guga0101> hi...
[04:08] <guga0101> can someone tell what you usually do when you want to install some app that has released its tar.gz recently but there is no repository package yet for that new version?
[04:09] <Daisuke_Ido> enable backports :D
[04:09] <guga0101> backports?
[04:09] <guga0101> :P
[04:09] <Daisuke_Ido> !backports | guga0101
[04:09] <ubot3> guga0101: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[04:10] <guga0101> great; lets see!
[04:16] <guga0101> Daisuke_Ido: good to know that
[04:16] <Jnaut> hey, I'm new to Kubuntu, from Ubuntu, it seems about the same but there is a complication. I'm trying to install a program called "frostwire" but I can't figure out how. "./configure" doesn't seem to work, can anyone help?
[04:16] <Daisuke_Ido> sudo apt-get install frostwire
[04:16] <guga0101> but.. they don't have the really latest version of nmap, for instance hehe
[04:16] <Daisuke_Ido> !repos | Jnaut
[04:16] <ubot3> Jnaut: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[04:17] <Jnaut> thanks
[04:18] <guga0101> the problem is.. how to install from sources (tar.gz) and also making it easy to uninstall the whole app?
[04:19] <kgoetz> try checkinstall
[04:19] <guga0101> sure! lets see
[04:20] <Jnaut> i dont see any 'frostwire' in the reposotories
[04:21] <Daisuke_Ido> !frostwire | Jnaut
[04:21] <ubot3> Jnaut: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[04:21] <BunnyRevolution> i'd like to get some packages from hardy for gutsy
[04:21] <guga0101> kgoetz: perfect!! that's what i needed! thank you
[04:22] <kgoetz> np
[04:31] <Jnaut> AAH! I've tried checkinstall, the .deb file, and "apt-get install" and i still cant get frostwire
[04:31] <Jnaut> is anyone here who can help
[04:34] <Rozza5> bbs
[04:36] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah, don't use frostwire, it's a waste of time and a cesspool of copyright infringement.
[04:36] <Jnaut> i was thinking of something a little less "non-frostwire-ey"
[04:37] <Jnaut> come on, theres got to be some1 who can help
[04:39] <Daisuke_Ido> you're going to get a similar response from a lot of people.
[04:46] <joinmeindeath> hello everyone
[04:46] <joinmeindeath> anyone there?
[04:52] <cuznt> my volume disappeard
[04:53] <Jnaut> tried right clicking panel "add applet".... "Volume"??
[04:53] <cuznt> adds the wrong one
[04:54] <Jnaut> well im not very experienced :( hope some1 else is here
[04:54] <cuznt> no biggie
[04:54]  * cuznt is just throwin it out
[05:00] <pevey> msg NickServ set email gardner.steven@gimail.af.mil
[05:01] <Jnaut> :P
[05:01] <loli> k
[05:01] <pevey> hi, this is my first time utilizing irc
[05:02] <loli> hi allways
[05:03] <Odd-rationale> pevey: use "/msg" not "msg"
[05:03] <loli> hola
[05:03] <loli> hay alguien
[05:03] <loli> ??
[05:04] <loli> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[05:04] <Odd-rationale> !es
[05:04] <ubot3> Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[05:05] <loli> a
[05:07] <pevey> thank you Odd-rationale
[05:14] <namespace> Hi, I'm using KDE4 with Kubuntu 7.10 and my shutdown button in the menu, only links to Logout (which goes back to the logon screen) How can i make it shutdown??in the system settings, the shutdown thing is set to everybody and /sbin/halt is there, that looks good... any ideas?
[05:15] <Odd-rationale> namespace: try in #kubuntu-kde4
[05:16] <namespace> Odd-rationale: yup, just logged on there lol.... thanks :)
[05:17] <asobi> what's a good replacement for SyncBack?
[05:17] <Odd-rationale> asobi: What is SyncBack?
[05:18] <asobi> backup software
[05:18] <Odd-rationale> asobi: have you looked at keep?
[05:18] <asobi> keep is horrible
[05:18] <asobi> http://www.2brightsparks.com/syncback/sbse-features.html
[05:18] <Odd-rationale> keep is a frontend to rdiff-backup
[05:20] <asobi> i want something that will scan a folder, detect any changes since last backup, copy it to destination without any compression
[05:22] <Odd-rationale> asobi: rdiff-backup will do that. so will rsync i beleive
[05:28] <asobi> hmm
[05:28] <asobi> works great
[05:28] <asobi> if keep is just frontend why does it compress?
[05:29] <Odd-rationale> asobi: you can set it to no compression
[05:30] <asobi> i think i had unchecked compression
[05:31] <asobi> ah well, will try again
[05:31] <asobi> thanks
[05:41] <asobi> ot!
[05:41] <asobi> !ot
[05:41] <ubot3> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[06:25] <rsc-232> whats the tv app program for kbuntu?
[06:25] <rsc-232> sudo apt-get install tvtime dont work
[06:25] <ForgeAus> Video4Linux??? I don't actually know
[06:48] <dwidmann> KDM april fools day edition is hilarious!!
[06:49] <Rozza5> [->>>>AmSg<<<<-] brb reboot...
[06:49] <Odd-rationale> dwidmann: how do you get it?
[06:50] <dwidmann> Odd-rationale: update maybe?
[06:50] <Odd-rationale> dwidmann: hmm.
[06:50]  * dwidmann is using hardy
[06:51] <Odd-rationale> I see.
[06:53] <Odd-rationale> !test
[06:53] <ubot3> Failed.
[06:57] <unix_infidel> anyone know of a way to view archives in rss?
[07:55] <ses59> if I want to use a proxy server to hide my ip address what you recommend
[07:55] <Daisuke_Ido> google.
[07:56] <kgoetz> ses59: on freenode? ask for a cloak. in do you mean in general?
[07:56] <ses59> I want to use yahoo web mail without my ip addrss showing up
[07:56] <JAM> I'm on the 8.04 beta and I just did an update which change the default wallpaper and KDM background to a weird picture of a unicorn
[07:56] <ses59> in general
[07:56] <Jucato> hahah! JAM try asking in #ubuntu+1 please
[07:56] <Jucato> that's amusing though :)
[07:56] <Daisuke_Ido> JAM, possible april fool's joke?
[07:56] <Jucato> maybe
[07:56] <ses59> i have someone trying to find my address so I want to hide it from now on
[07:57] <JAM> could be
[07:57] <JAM> wanna see? ;]
[07:58] <Daisuke_Ido> now, when you say someone, do you mean the fbi?
[07:58] <ses59> no sent email and do want it to come back to me
[07:59] <Daisuke_Ido> you sent someone mail
[07:59] <ses59> yes
[07:59] <ForgeAus> hey Jucato :)
[07:59] <Daisuke_Ido> and don't want a reply?
[07:59] <ses59> yes
[07:59] <Jucato> hey ForgeAus
[07:59] <ForgeAus> hehe here's me trying to do things the software wasn't designed for again :)
[07:59] <Jucato> Daisuke_Ido: kinda offtopic and shady, but more offtopic, don't you think? :)
[07:59]  * Daisuke_Ido scratches his head
[07:59] <JAM> http://www.purplejam.co.uk/stuffs/snapshot3.png
[07:59] <ForgeAus> (this time still working towards KDE for Interix)
[08:00] <emilsedgh> Jucato: i got a heart attack for that kde joke in the morning ;)
[08:00] <ForgeAus> only gentoo-alt under Interix is pretty much bleeding-edge
[08:00] <Jucato> ah yeah JAM. I bet that's a 0401 prank :)
[08:00] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm thinking i'm not going any further into this, and will just say that if you would like to operate your little spam ring, google your alternatives.
[08:00] <JAM> ok :}
[08:00] <ses59> no spam I only sent one email
[08:00] <JAM> brb
[08:01] <Jucato> emilsedgh: nice ain't it? :P
[08:01] <emilsedgh> Jucato: yeah it was so cool =)
[08:02] <emilsedgh> is there any way to install gcc 4.3 under gutsy? any package/tutorial?
[08:02] <emilsedgh> i heard runs and compiles everything MUCH faster
[08:05] <Jucato> sorry no idea
[08:21] <kblin> hi folks
[08:22] <eddieftw> hi kblin
[08:22] <kgoetz> helo
[08:22] <kblin> is there a way to replace the bootspash in kubuntu?
[08:22] <kgoetz> yes there is.
[08:22] <Jucato> !usplash
[08:22] <ubot3> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[08:22] <MilhousePunkRock> !moodin | kblin
[08:23] <ubot3> kblin: moodin is a ksplash theme engine, enabled by default in Kubuntu Dapper, and you can grab it for Breezy here: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=25705
[08:23] <MilhousePunkRock> Oh, he said bootsplash...
[08:23] <Jucato> yep :)
[08:23]  * Jucato wonders if kblin's now confused :)
[08:23] <kgoetz> that breezy reference could probably go
[08:23]  * kgoetz wonders if anyone ever cleans ubotus brain out
[08:23] <MilhousePunkRock> BTW, I can confirm the unicorn...
[08:23] <Jucato> once in a while. if someone notices
[08:23] <Jucato> except that's not ubotu :)
[08:24] <kgoetz> i thought it was the same backend
[08:24] <kblin> acutally both are useful
[08:24] <MilhousePunkRock> I though it had something to do with cute fluffy bunny being the default plasma theme in kde4 though...
[08:24] <Jucato> kgoetz: I don't have access to ubot3
[08:24] <kgoetz> Jucato: strage.
[08:25] <kgoetz> ubot3: seems to act quite differently to ubotu :/
[08:25] <ubot3> kgoetz: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[08:25] <kblin> I'm trying to roll out a couple of pcs our boss wants to run Linux on. Our users are scared of Linux, so the idea was to make kubuntu look like it was Vista and claim any slight differences in using the things are "vista's" fault
[08:26] <Jucato> O.o
[08:26]  * kgoetz lols
[08:26] <kgoetz> those plans always make me do taht
[08:26] <kblin> it works
[08:26] <kgoetz> *that
[08:26] <kblin> we tried that when XP came out
[08:26] <kblin> it's just that back then, Linux wasn't quite there
[08:27] <kgoetz> in your NSHO of course
[08:27] <kgoetz> ;)
[08:27] <kblin> well, I've got a list of "killer apps" that need to work
[08:27] <Jucato> (of course Linux isn't quite ready to imitate Windows... but offtopic anyway)
[08:27] <kblin> and photoshop started working in wine some months ago
[08:29]  * kgoetz looks the other way and goes 'lalalala'
[08:30] <kgoetz> afk. heading home
[08:30] <Jucato> take care
[08:50] <crazy_bus> the epg on two stations is a hour off in kaffeine. Is there anyway to manually add a hour to it so I know which program is currently playing?
[08:51] <tyron> Hi im trying to remotedesktop to an xp machine and when i try to search it cant find it. when using ubuntu i just put in the ip and connect
[08:55] <lingard> is it possible to mount a network folder to a local location?
[08:56] <emilsedgh> lingard: KDE applications are netework transparent.but you could mount remote ssh directories as a part of your filesystem with somehting that i dont remember its name!
[08:56] <emilsedgh> maybe it was fuse
[08:57] <emilsedgh> !fuse
[08:57] <ubot3> FUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE.  Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here:  http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems
[08:57] <emilsedgh> !sshfs
[08:57] <ubot3> sshfs: filesystem client based on SSH File Transfer Protocol. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7-2.1 (gutsy), package size 41 kB, installed size 148 kB
[08:58] <lingard> would it be easier to set up a network folder on this machince (kubuntu)?
[08:59] <nomopofomo> How can I extract all of one kind of file from a directory and all directories within it?
[08:59] <lingard> my other is running vista but it won't let me access this machine from it without a login
[09:07] <luca> ciao a tutti
[09:24] <needhelp> are there any applications which can have a Web interface to upload files into the server?
[09:25] <MilhousePunkRock> needhelp: No FTP access to the server? Konqueror handles ftp just as it was local...
[09:26] <Jucato> Konqueror using sftp:/ ftp:/ ssh:/ or fish:/ ?
[09:26] <emilsedgh> there are many web based file manager though
[09:26] <emilsedgh> s/manager/managers/
[09:27] <Jucato> well, if you by "web based"  you mean AJAX-y stuff, each site/app has their own
[09:28] <emilsedgh> there are many FOSS web based stuff in php for that thing
[09:28] <needhelp> yeah webbase.. what is the term to search on google?
[09:29] <needhelp> MilhousePunkRock: i set up proftpd on the server..but others have to use ftp programs to come in.. some users don't have ftp program..need to have a webbase interface for them to come in
[09:30] <MilhousePunkRock> needhelp: So that is something on the server side...
[09:30] <emilsedgh> needhelp: web based file manager, php file manager, etc.
[09:30] <MilhousePunkRock> needhelp: Maybe google knows that as "upload form" or something alike
[09:30] <needhelp> thanks!!
[09:30] <needhelp> web based file manager!
[09:31] <MilhousePunkRock> needhelp: Tell them to get a proper OS that does not need a seperate ftp client ;)
[09:31] <emilsedgh> yeah! MilhousePunkRock's solution is the best one
[09:31] <emilsedgh> force them to use Kubuntu =)
[09:33] <MilhousePunkRock> Who asked about that unicorn earlier? It's even in the changelog as "April Fool" ;)
[09:33] <needhelp> MilhousePunkRock: yea but even with broswer as ftp client, resuming a big file is a problem~~ hope to find something that is webbase and can resume
[09:34] <emilsedgh> needhelp: http://sourceforge.net/search/?type_of_search=soft&type_of_search=soft&words=file+manager+php
[09:34] <MilhousePunkRock> needhelp: Konqueror can resume
[09:35] <needhelp> can firefox??
[09:35] <Jucato> um.. I think the ability to resume is server-dependent
[09:37] <MilhousePunkRock> needhelp: Can firefox upload at all?
[09:37] <emilsedgh> it could
[09:37] <Jucato> MilhousePunkRock: extensions
[09:37] <emilsedgh> install fireftp extension
[09:37] <MilhousePunkRock> And that's why I prefer Konqueror... It comes with all that beauty already...
[09:38] <ForgeAus> konqi doesn't have the kinda extensions firefox has tho thats a little drawback
[09:38] <ForgeAus> but then those extensions prolly would just slow it down
[09:38] <emilsedgh> ForgeAus: it has...but noone writes them for konqueror
[09:39] <emilsedgh> ForgeAus: it even has some extensions located in extragear/base i think
[09:39] <ForgeAus> well I know it uses kio-slaves which are brilliant enough extensions :)
[09:41] <Ralesk> hi all
[09:41] <Ralesk> Has anyone here ever used/created custom keyboard layouts?
[09:41] <MilhousePunkRock> !anyone | Ralesk
[09:41] <ubot3> Ralesk: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:42] <Ralesk> eh, fine :)
[09:42] <MilhousePunkRock> Ralesk: My direct answer would be: Most likely anyone has...
[09:42] <Ralesk> the only way I could make it work is by modifying the symbols file for a language (in my case the 'hu' one)
[09:43] <Ralesk> but it gets ruthlessly overwritten every time X gets updated
[09:43] <MilhousePunkRock> Ralesk: Are you trying to have easy switching of keyboard layouts?
[09:43] <Ralesk> no
[09:43] <Ralesk> I'm trying to have a custom layout I made.
[09:43] <emilsedgh> like Dvorak?
[09:44] <emilsedgh> !dvorak
[09:44] <ubot3> dvorak is a keyboard layout that aims to be more comfortable and efficient alternative to the standard "QWERTY" pattern. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvorak_Simplified_Keyboard
[09:44] <MilhousePunkRock> or NEO?
[09:44] <Ralesk> dvorak isn't custom :)
[09:44] <MilhousePunkRock> I have yet to meet someone that actually used dvorak...
[09:45] <Ralesk> I made a layout that can be used with the hungarian accents but is based on the US QWERTY and thus can be used very well for programming -- which is quite not the case with the official hungarian layout
[09:45] <emilsedgh> Ralesk: you should go to X support channels (if there is any)
[09:46] <Ralesk> I just copy a section into the hu symbol file, and Ubuntu does some black magic and automatically updates the xml and plain keyboard databases (doesn't happen on freebsd and some other linux distros)
[09:46] <emilsedgh> or look at example X map files
[10:06] <MilhousePunkRock> Riddell: Hi... Nice April Fool's joke... ;)
[10:10] <Malique> Hello?
[10:10] <Riddell> MilhousePunkRock: seems to have gone down well
[10:10] <Malique> Good, it seems there are actual people here! LOL
[10:11] <Malique> Anyone might be able to help me work out how to make my sound work? Possibly?
[10:11] <emilsedgh> i got a heart attack! that wasnt nice! ;)
[10:12] <MilhousePunkRock> Riddell: I first thought it was related to me installing kde4 just this morning... Which comes with cute fluffy bunny as the default plasma theme, which makes a perfect couple... Pink fur and unicorns... ;)
[10:12] <emilsedgh> but the 'sorry-rms' dept was so cool, kudos to Riddell
[10:13] <MilhousePunkRock> emilsedgh: sorry-rms?
[10:13] <emilsedgh> from the sorry-rms dept.
[10:14] <Malique> Noone?
[10:14] <MilhousePunkRock> Malique: You need to ask a real question...
[10:14] <Fyl0n> I tried 8.04 (KDE3)
[10:14] <Fyl0n> But in Konsole the TAB for autocomplete does not work.. how can I enable the TAB autocomplete function?
[10:14] <Malique> I thought I'd just ask first to see if anyone was willing to help me... but if you like I'll be specific
[10:15] <MilhousePunkRock> emilsedgh: Enlighten me, please
[10:16] <Malique> I'm trying to get sound working on a Medion MD96420, it's got 3 devices on it's sound card - two analog, one digital. The first analog is an ALC883, the second is ALC 268. I get sound through the headphones, not through speakers. KMix only says it reads the ALC268
[10:17] <Malique> I try using alsamixer, and it spits out "ALSA lib simple_none.c:1741:(simple_add1) helem (MIXER, "Headphone Playback Switch' ,0,0,0) appears twice or more
[10:18] <Malique> alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: Invalid argument
[10:18] <Malique> The controls in KMix (at least the main and the headphones) DO control the headphones, but still no sound through either the two main speakers or the built-in subwoofer
[10:19] <Malique> I have tried a number of options in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, to no avail
[10:19] <Malique> All those lines I got from this forum post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=616845&highlight=realtek+alc268
[10:19] <Malique> The module is loaded according to "cat /proc/asound/modules"
[10:20] <Malique> The module loaded is snd_hda_intel
[10:20] <MilhousePunkRock> emilsedgh: Ah, KDE's ISO Delegate Votes Yes to Office Open XML, that one... :D
[10:21] <Malique> So my question is: How do I make my speakers work?
[10:22] <MilhousePunkRock> Malique: Did you try building your own alsa modules? That worked for me for a tricky audigy card, I have seen many howtos for Intel HDA to do that...
[10:23] <Malique> That was my next thing to try, but I just wanted to check to see if there was anything else first. Does the method outlined in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449 for recompiling alsa from source build the modules?
[10:25] <MilhousePunkRock> Malique: The comprehensive sound problem solution guide is a good ressource to start with... I am too lazy to read it all over again, but it does have a sectio on module assistant, doesn't it?
[10:26] <Malique> Yup, ok thanks I'll try that.
[10:27] <Malique> BTW, did anyone else get a unicorn wallpaper replace the default Kubuntu wallpaper in some of the latest Hardy updates?
[10:28] <MilhousePunkRock> Malique: Read the changelog and look at your calendar ;)
[10:28] <MilhousePunkRock> Malique: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/k/kubuntu-default-settings/kubuntu-default-settings_8.04-17/changelog
[10:28] <Malique> Whoops, why didn't I put those two together? LMAO
[10:29] <eddieftw> heheeh hilarious
[10:29] <MilhousePunkRock> Riddell: When do we get the original wallpaper back, by the way...
[10:29] <eddieftw> is that the default hardy background now...? hilarious
[10:30]  * Malique feels like a total git now haha
[10:39] <Riddell> MilhousePunkRock: wallpaper shouldn't have changed
[10:40] <MilhousePunkRock> Riddell: Well, you didn't do it... But I thought you'd know about it: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/k/kubuntu-default-settings/kubuntu-default-settings_8.04-17/changelog
[10:40] <Jucato> was it the wallpaper or the login background that changed?
[10:41] <MilhousePunkRock> Jucato: Actually both
[10:41] <Jucato> ah
[10:41] <MilhousePunkRock> Jucato: The Kubuntu default wallpaper got replaced by that lovely unicorn, so it applies to both
[10:43] <cpk1> argh hardy isnt going to be LTS?
[10:44] <Jucato> not Kubuntu Hardy
[10:45] <eldaria> really? I thought it was only kde4 vertsion that was not going to be LTS
[10:45] <Jucato> both won't
[10:45] <Jucato> (old, very old, news :P)
[10:45] <Malique> Since when?
[10:45] <Malique> Coulda sword it was :(
[10:45] <Malique> *sworn
[10:45] <Jucato> since November or December 2007
[10:46] <Malique> Ahh yeah, because of KDE4
[10:46] <cpk1> you mean I have to *gasp* use gtk if I want LTS?
[10:47]  * Jucato shrugs
[10:47] <Jucato> do you *really* need LTS?
[10:47] <cpk1> i suppose it wont matter anyways since the only LTS machine I want to have is my router and server which is headless and no X anyways =P
[10:48] <Malique> OK, BTW, I recompiled the ALSA modules, and the same issue is coming up with alsamixer: "ALSA lib simple_none.c:1741:(simple_add1) helem (MIXER, "Headphone Playback Switch' ,0,0,0) appears twice or more"
[10:48] <Malique> Still no sound :(
[10:48] <Jucato> LTS actually has little to do with stability per se. it's just a "mark" and a promise from Canonical that they will provide commercial support for an extended period of time. so unless you're a Canonical customer, that means very little...
[10:49] <cpk1> but it will continue to get security updates right Jucato? I wont need it to have the latest bleeding edge, but just basic updates without doing a full upgrade
[10:50] <Jucato> for 18 months, yes
[10:50] <Jucato> you can always disable the -updates repository and only allow for -security updates
[10:50] <Malique> GAHH I hate this stupid sound :@
[10:51] <cpk1> Jucato: but normal releases only get updated for the 6 months right?
[10:51] <Jucato> cpk1: huh?
[10:52] <cpk1> Jucato: how long does a non-lts release get updates if you dont add -backports?
[10:52] <Malique> cpk1: no, normal releases get 18 months, LTS get 3 years
[10:53] <Malique> (from what I understand)
[10:53] <Jucato> cpk1: they get updates as they come. you're confusing getting updates and new releases
[10:53] <Jucato> cpk1: if you mean "how long is a regular release supported?", 18 months, as I've mentioned
[10:53] <cpk1> oh I see alright
[10:54] <Jucato> (of course, by "supported", that means gettings security fixed and updates...)
[10:55] <Malique> MilhousePunkRock (or anyone else who knows): I tried compiling ALSA from source, it compiled and installed (I think) but still no sound, and alsamixer still won't work. Any other things I can try?
[10:55] <cpk1> whats your audio chip?
[10:55] <kblin> hi
[10:56] <MilhousePunkRock> Malique: I think the comprehensive sound problem solution guide tells you to open a new topic in this case... Did you follow the guide step-by-step?
[10:56] <kblin> is there a way to start a predefined ssh session by clicking on an icon?
[10:57] <Malique> cpk1: ALC268, or ALC883, there's two of them listed in aplay -l. MilhousePunkRock: Not so much step-by-step as in hacked-apart-and-done-periodically-over-the-last-12-hours LOL
[10:58] <MilhousePunkRock> Malique: Start over again, remove and purge everything alsa related and stick to the guide
[10:58] <Malique> OK, I'll try
[11:01] <lingard> i've installed samba, is it supposed to be in my menu?
[11:02] <Jucato> lingard: afaik, no
[11:02] <kblin> lingard: no. samba is a server, not a GUI program
[11:03] <lingard> how do i access a workgroup?
[11:03] <kblin> I use konqueror for that
[11:03] <lingard> or is there a network manager with a GUI?
[11:03] <kblin> you can set up the workgroup settings from system settings, iirc
[11:04] <kblin> lingard: and you can also set up samba from "system settings" if you want to share your files :)
[11:04] <kblin> never tried that, though
[11:04] <lingard> how do i do it from the system settings, i can't seem to find anything for it
[11:05] <lingard> my other machine is on vista and it can find this one on the network folder but it's asking for a login and nothing seems to work
[11:06] <cpk1> Malique: when you compiled alsa did you add any options with ./configure?
[11:08] <Smutt> anyone know how i can change my userid in irc?
[11:09] <emilsedgh> Smutt: you could change nick by typing /nick MyNewNick
[11:09] <sveri> hi, i tried to get my usb wlan adapter (dlink dwl-g122) running with ndiswrapper (rt2500usb driver) and everytime i try to connect dmesg tells me: wlan0: authentication with AP <MAC Adress> timed out, the funny thing is, the first time i tried it it worked, but scince then it wont work anymore
[11:09] <rattts> ok thanx
[11:10] <icewaterman> sveri: ndiswrapper is a really bad hack
[11:10] <Malique> cpk1: Nope, I didn't add anything
[11:10] <sveri> icewaterman: what else should i use?
[11:10] <icewaterman> sveri: you should be a driver for linux
[11:10] <icewaterman> rt is that realtek?
[11:11] <icewaterman> if so, good luck, get new hardware
[11:11] <sveri> icewaterman: i should be a driver? i dont understand what you mean
[11:11] <sveri> icewaterman: no, its not realtek
[11:11] <icewaterman> sveri: there is some driver for linux.
[11:11] <sveri> like i wrote, its a dlink :-)
[11:11] <icewaterman> sveri: manufacturer doesnt matter
[11:11] <icewaterman> rt2200.sf.net or so
[11:11] <sveri> icewaterman: ah, i see
[11:12] <icewaterman> sveri: you should find a driver is what i meant, or there should be a driver. look at the url i gave you+
[11:12] <icewaterman> if it doesnt exist, try google with rt2200 and linux
[11:13] <icewaterman> they might have a driver for your rt2500 as well
[11:13] <sveri> icewaterman: ok, i'll try it
[11:13] <icewaterman> if the chipset is realtek though, you can totally forget it
[11:13] <Ace2016> but ndiswrapper does work quite well after you get it to work in the first place
[11:14] <sveri> hm, like i said, i got it working once
[11:14] <icewaterman> Ace2016: if it takes 10 hours to get it work, you are better of spending 20$ to get a supported one and the end is you get even better hardware
[11:14] <icewaterman> +f
[11:14] <lingard> if i add myself to the root groop will that mean i don't have to sudo anymore?
[11:14] <lingard> *group
[11:15] <icewaterman> lingard: yes, but a very bad idea
[11:15] <cpk1> Malique: is it an intel chip?
[11:15] <lingard> why's that?
[11:15] <icewaterman> lingard: it is as if you
[11:15] <icewaterman> were running all as root
[11:15] <sveri> icewaterman: can you advice a usb wlan adapter which is known to work well under linux and with wpa support?
[11:15] <stoffell> lingard, like driving at fast speed without your seat belt on ...
[11:15] <stoffell> or parachute jumping without a parachute :p
[11:15] <icewaterman> sveri: later yes, atm no, because i have no browser yet
[11:16] <lingard> ok, i'll leave it :)
[11:16] <icewaterman> sveri: check the url first, you might have one that works nicely already
[11:16] <Malique> cpk1: Yup, it's using snd-hda-intel as it's module
[11:16] <sveri> icewaterman: k, i'll report back later and see if i can do anything
[11:16] <lingard> do i have to put myself in a certain group to be able to access files whilst on another machine on the network?
[11:16] <icewaterman> lingard: if you want to not enter your password while running sudo, you can add NOPASSWD directive to sudoers (man sudoers). however from the security perspective that is almost the same as if you were running all as root
[11:17] <cpk1> Malique: not sure if it makes a difference, but ./configure --with-cards=hda-intel something you can try doing if you recompile it again, but I have no idea if it changes anything or not
[11:17] <icewaterman> lingard: samba or nfs?
[11:18] <lingard> i installed samba
[11:18] <lingard> but i have no idea where it went
[11:18] <icewaterman> lingard: then the answer is no
[11:18] <icewaterman> samba doesnt care much about permissions
[11:18] <lingard> it asks me for login details when i try to access it
[11:18] <icewaterman> about user/group permissions that is
[11:18] <icewaterman> lingard: yes, and you need to enter them
[11:18] <lingard> and my username and password are shown as invalid
[11:18] <Malique> Actually, that does ring a bell, I think I did do that (after module-assistant wouldn't work for me). I just cut-n-pasted from the comprehensive sound thread
[11:19] <icewaterman> lingard: you do not understand samba at all, read a samba howto first
[11:21] <icewaterman> or find and pay someone 50$ an hour to explain it to you - i'd recommend you start reading, its been always cheaper for the last couple of millennia :)
[11:22] <cpk1> there is swat too lingard
[11:24] <Malique> OK, for something more pressing: I need to get this damn wireless running. It's one of those RaLink ones. I got the driver off the website for RT2860, but it won't compile :(
[11:25] <cpk1> well why wont it compile?
[11:26] <dibcit> Quit
[11:26] <icewaterman> dibcit: /quit
[11:26] <dibcit> exit
[11:26] <dibcit> cls
[11:27] <icewaterman> dibcit: add a / or no command will work
[11:27] <Malique> I don't know, I don't know enough about compiling to really understand it. The compile process just seems full of errors. It exits wirh error 2
[11:28] <icewaterman> Malique: best way to fix this: look at the website to find ou
[11:28] <icewaterman> t
[11:28] <Malique> What web site? The RaLink website? They only seem to have a small Linux section with just downloads for drivers and release docs
[11:28] <icewaterman> they probably have some sort of faq etc. if you got the driver from the manufacturer, they will not maintain it and you'll need to hope for some project to have taken the maintenance over
[11:29] <icewaterman> Malique: there is a project for the ralink drivers
[11:29] <icewaterman> use google
[11:29] <Malique> The RT2x00 project
[11:29] <Malique> ?
[11:29] <icewaterman> Malique: yes
[11:29] <cpk1> ralink is actually pretty linux friendly
[11:29] <icewaterman> get the driver there
[11:29] <Malique> I'll try it out. Thanks
[11:29] <cpk1> their latest supplicant version is from jan 08
[11:30] <lingard> how do i run swat?
[11:30] <icewaterman> cpk1: yes, they just dont maintain their drivers, but thats ok, since you can get it from some projects who took over the work
[11:30] <icewaterman> lingard: RTFM
[11:31] <lingard> i'm reading the samba one first
[11:31] <icewaterman> lingard: this is my last answer to you, there are a lot of howtos for samba+swat and even ubuntu+samba+swat
[11:32] <cpk1> Malique: did you read the readme after untarring the drivers from ralink?
[11:42] <Malique> cpk1: Yer, I read the readme, no help. I've also found the RT2x00 project site, it reckons the driver is already in the 2.6.24 kernel, but it's buggy
[11:44] <cpk1> you might just be missing a compile dependency Malique
[11:45] <Malique> The problem seems to happen during the compile process when it gets to compiling rt_linux.so, the rest until that point are fine
[11:46] <cpk1> Malique: what does it say when it gets to that?
[11:47] <Malique> It starts hammering out a bunch of errors, all different sorts, then it exits error 2
[11:48] <cpk1> either give me the first line or pastebin the whole thing, vaguaries help no one
[11:51] <Malique> cpk1: I got it up on http://pastebin.com/md04b8d0
[11:51] <Malique> The entire contents of my console after "sudo make"
[11:52] <cpk1> you dont need to make as root
[11:53] <Malique> cpk1: If I don't make as root, it fails much earlier. I'll add the output of that to a second post after my first on pastebin
[11:55] <cpk1> Malique: did you make the 2 changes it says to in the readme?
[12:00] <Malique> cpk1: Yes I did. In the first place, the only thing I needed to change was MODE = STA, since it had a slightly different line "RT28xx_MODE = STA" below it. TARGET was already set to LINUX and the source was set to /lib/modules/$(shell uname -r)/build, which seemed to contain the kernel headers (I originally tried /usr/src/linux-headers... but that had even more errors and completely failed)
[12:02] <Malique> In the second part, I didn't know what to do with GCC and LD, so I left them default, nor did I understand the CFLAGS part, but I did set HAS_WPA_SUPPLICANT=y and I tried both HAS_NATIVE_WPA_SUPPLICANT=y and n
[12:02] <icewaterman> Malique: did you check whether there might already come a package with kubuntu?
[12:03] <|Dreams|> when does hardy heron get released?
[12:03] <icewaterman> |Dreams|: end of april probably
[12:03] <|Dreams|> ok cheers
[12:04] <Jucato> mid april. you can check with #ubuntu+1
[12:05] <Malique> icewaterman: Not that I can tell, only source packages for the rt2x00 and lower
[12:05] <Malique> Not the rt2860 driver
[12:05] <icewaterman> Malique: doesnt that driver also cover for yours?
[12:06] <jareth>  
[12:07] <Malique> I don't know, it's hard to tell from the site. Plus from what the site says the driver itself is already built into the kernel but it doesn't work.
[12:07] <cpk1> serialmonkey appears to only go up to rt73
[12:08] <icewaterman> Malique: if the driver is built into the kernel, then it is no longer maintained on the project side but by the kernel developers (maybe same people) but consider whatever is on their site legacy)
[12:09] <Malique> So that means I'm screwed for the rt2x00 driver. So that brings me back to the official rt2860 driver then
[12:09] <Malique> Which I can't compile
[12:10] <Haskear> I just updated Ubuntu and theres a gay looking unicorn wallpaper at logon :o whats the deal?
[12:10] <icewaterman> Malique: try the version from the kernel
[12:10] <icewaterman> Malique: the rest doesnt compile because it is outdated and kernel api has changed since it was released
[12:11] <cpk1> Malique: just read an intersting post that says it will compile on 2.6.23.XX kernel but not 2.6.24.XX kernel
[12:11]  * icewaterman didnt know unicorns could be gay. i thought there was only one left...
[12:11] <Malique> cpk1: Yer, I just found that one myself :@
[12:11] <Haskear> icewaterman probably why its so happy :p
[12:11] <icewaterman> cpk1: gutsy uses 22 so there should be no problem
[12:12] <Malique> I'm not using Gutsy, I'm using Hardy
[12:12] <tomahasamoot> Is is safe to install kde4 from adept manager in kubuntu 8.04, or will that mess up kde3?
[12:12] <icewaterman> Malique: try ubuntu+1 then
[12:13] <icewaterman> btw. that is what happens if you use beta software :)
[12:13] <kgoetz> or install on april fools day
[12:13] <Malique> LOL, I've learned not to trust the Kubuntu upgrade process, so when I got this new laptop I put Hardy on straight away so I dodn't have to go through it again LOL
[12:14] <cpk1> Malique: put /home on a seperate partition makes upgrading a lot less scary
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> Malique: never had an issue personally
[12:15] <icewaterman> cpk1: also a safe bet is not to use ubuntu kernel :)
[12:15] <jareth> whats wrong w/ the ubuntu kernel and upgrading? lol
[12:16] <cpk1> theres no problem with the ubuntu kernel... unless you actually are using something that you need to worry about kernel size
[12:16] <icewaterman> jareth: dunno, never had a problem with vanilla kernel though - i compile kernel myself because i boot from usb and it has to be small
[12:16] <icewaterman> with a small initramfs
[12:16] <Malique> cpk1: I've got /home on a separate partition. I'm assuming though you're talking about wiping the old version and fresh installing? I'm talking about using the upgrade program, it usually has craploads of errors through it
[12:16] <icewaterman> Malique: i recently upgraded to hardy and ran into no problems related to the installer
[12:17] <cpk1> Malique: yup I know, thats why you keep /home on its own partition so you can wipe / if you have to
[12:17] <jareth> i see a few others are on hardy
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> i installed Hardy on a virtualbox and it was ok
[12:17] <icewaterman> all problems were related to software i upgraded to - but that happens when beta software is involved
[12:17] <jareth> have any of you had any problems w/ messaging pidgin users w/ kopete?
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> im at work at the moment and cant be bothered wheni get in to play with my system
[12:17] <icewaterman> jareth: i dont use kopete
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> jareth: none that i know of. What you experiencing?
[12:18] <icewaterman> ironically i compile it at the moment
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> I use pidgin but not kopete
[12:18] <jareth> it says encoding differs between users
[12:18] <jareth> or (myself) has a buggy client
[12:18] <jareth> when i sent them a im
[12:18]  * icewaterman uses bitlbee
[12:18] <jareth> i could receive thers fine
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> jareth: did you install from repos?
[12:18] <jareth> theres*
[12:18] <jareth> i used hardy heron, it came w/ it
[12:19] <cpk1> hardy is still beta
[12:19] <jareth> but would your guess be that it is me?
[12:19] <jareth> or the pidgin user?
[12:19] <jareth> both of us have no problems w/ people that use regular aim and windows
[12:20] <icewaterman> jareth: time for a bugreport
[12:20] <jareth> also, i have a ubuntu 7.10 rig next to me that was able to use pidgin to communicate fine
[12:20] <jareth> lol
[12:20] <jareth> i guess so ;)
[12:20] <jareth> go to the ubuntu bug tracker? ive never reported one before lol
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> jareth: can you get us the exact error
[12:20] <jareth> yes h/o a sec
[12:22] <jareth> the pidgin user
[12:22] <jareth> gets this error when i send a message
[12:22] <jareth> there was a error receiving this message. Either you and <USER> have different encodings selected, or <user> has a buggy client.
[12:22] <jareth> where user would be me
[12:22] <Malique> OK, I can't compile the rt2x00-source because it's included in the kernel, and make won't let me compile it "needlessly"
[12:22] <jareth> anyone on kubuntu have any friends using pidgin they wanna message? :D lol
[12:22] <jareth> afk for a few
[12:23] <kgoetz> martalli: if its in the kernel, why are you rebuilding it?
[12:24] <Malique> Because it doesn't currently work, and there's no way for me to compile the RT2860 driver without downgrading the kernel which I wouldn't know how to do in the first place
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> jareth: http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/5092
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> jareth: are you fully updated?
[12:25] <jareth> no not yet, ive got like 100 but i checked if kopete was one and it wasnt
[12:25] <jareth> i just downloaded kubuntu yesterday, i was gonna dl the updates in a few mins when i left :)
[12:25] <kgoetz> Malique: what does "doesnt work" mean?
[12:25] <jareth> you think its the pidgin user then?
[12:25] <jareth> wait
[12:26] <jareth> is there any way to change encoding types fo raim even??? lol
[12:26] <jareth> for*
[12:26] <Malique> kgoetz: It means my wireless card (a RaLink "Unknown device 0781" with subsystem "Unknown device 2790") doesn't work in my Medion MD96420
[12:27] <kgoetz> what is a medion?
[12:27] <Malique> From what I could find on Google, the RT2860 drivers should work, but they won't compile on the 24 kernel, and rt2x00 is buggy in the kernel and doesn't work
[12:28] <Malique> My next hope is to try and find out what my card translates to in Windows, find the drivers there, and PRAY TO CHRIST it works in ndiswrapper
[12:29] <jareth> i know that DHCP didnt work w/ my wireless card
[12:29] <jareth> so i just forced a IP / DNS etc in there
[12:29] <Malique> kgoetz: Medion is a German brand of computers sold pretty much exclusively in Aldi stores
[12:29] <jareth> o wait the whole driver is bad for you : /
[12:29] <Malique> jareth: Yup, the driver is rooted in the worst possible way it seems
[12:30] <Malique> The card is detected with lspci, but beyond that it may as well be a carrot squeezed into a USB slot
[12:34] <cpk1> Malique: try ndiswrapper then and hopefully that will work
[12:34] <Malique> Fun. The Linux drivers for my wireless card are less than half a MB, but the Windows drivers are 32.5MB
[12:34] <Malique> cpk1: Yup that's what I'm gonna try now
[12:36] <jareth> well, im out :) see you later ^^
[12:47] <nick__> hey i need help
[12:47] <nick__> plzzz...
[12:47] <kgoetz> !ask | nick__
[12:47] <ubot3> nick__: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[12:47] <ubotu> nick__: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[12:47] <nick__> i got a error when i surf on the internet
[12:47] <kgoetz> Jucato: could ubot3 be muted please?
[12:47] <nick__> pluginviewer error
[12:48] <nick__> kgoetz:  can you help me plz
[12:49] <kgoetz> nick__: no, you havent given us enough information
[12:49] <nick__> umm ok when i surf on the ether a eroor pop and said i have nspluginviewer error
[12:49] <nick__> ethernet *
[12:50] <kgoetz> surf with what?
[12:51] <nick__> konkeror and firefox
[12:54] <pushax> did anyone get the unicorn patch?
[12:55] <Malique> pushax: Yup, I fell for it LOL
[12:55] <pushax> hhehe
[12:55] <eddieftw> i did, i thought it was awesome
[12:55] <pushax> I thoguht someone hacked my computer till I patched my laptop
[12:55] <eddieftw> i wish i could keep it :(
[13:00] <Jucato> !test
[13:00] <ubotu> Failed.
[13:00] <ubot3> Failed.
[13:00] <kgoetz> cheers
[13:13] <Malique> Great. Now the Windows drivers I've got are in an executable setup file :@ and it won't run in wine
[13:14] <trading22> b
[13:15] <ere4si> don't you need the .inf file for wine?
[13:15] <Malique> I need to get the inf file out of that executable setup file in the first place so I can use it with ndiswrapper
[13:15] <Malique> But it's not an extractable exe, it's just a setup exe :@
[13:16] <nosrednaekim> Malique: use cabextract
[13:16] <nosrednaekim> oh.. and vista drivers don't yet ork
[13:16] <ere4si> w
[13:16] <nosrednaekim> :)
[13:16] <ere4si> hehe
[13:17] <Malique> Vista driver's don't work in ndiswrapper? That's OK, I can use the XP ones instead, assuming they work
[13:17] <Dr_willis> wine whatever.exe :)
[13:17] <Dr_willis> (done that befor!)
[13:17] <Malique> and cabextract didn't work on it :( it's not a valid cabinet
[13:17] <nosrednaekim> Malique: well, what card is it?
[13:19] <Malique> It's a RaLink RT2790 (I'm assuming that number from "Unknown device 2790")
[13:19] <nosrednaekim> ok
[13:23] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. Its really annoying when burning a lot of dvd's in k3b, (several copies of same data) that the autoplay thing pops up everytime i insert the next disk...
[13:25] <MilhousePunkRock> Dr_willis: Why not just disable it?
[13:25] <jetsaredi1> can someone explain why my background suddenly turned into a unicorn picture when I applied the latest updates?
[13:25] <Dr_willis> MilhousePunkRock,  i LIKE the feature for the FIRST blank dvd.. so it launches k3b.. but k3b should disable it while i am making copies
[13:26] <Dr_willis> Because its april first.
[13:26] <nosrednaekim> Dr_willis: agreed
[13:26]  * jetsaredim rolls eyes
[13:26]  * nosrednaekim is having the time of his life
[13:26] <MilhousePunkRock> Dr_willis: Hint: Add the media applet to kicker, from there you can launch k3b too...
[13:27] <Dr_willis> MilhousePunkRock,  rigth.. but i dont need yet another icon. :)
[13:27]  * Dr_willis just disables ALL autostarting bs. :)
[13:27] <MilhousePunkRock> Dr_willis: That will only appear when a disc is inserted though
[13:28] <Dr_willis> want some real fun...  VNC into a box with the vncsession running kde.. every time someone at the real machine pops in a cd. you get that dialog.
[13:29] <Dr_willis> if you have 10 people all vnc'd in running kde.. all 10 of them get it..
[13:29] <Dr_willis> :)
[13:29] <Malique> OK, just so I know, if I'm running 64bit Kubuntu, and I use a 32bit driver on ndiswrapper, will it work?
[13:29] <nosrednaekim> Malique: no
[13:29] <Malique> Damn
[13:30] <Malique> How the hell am I gonna get this driver out? :'( this computer is beginning to shit me
[13:30] <libit> hello, I've just noticed that /tmp on some centos5.1 install is not world-writable. Is this a new default ?
[13:31] <ere4si> ?centos
[13:31] <libit> sorry, wrong channel :-)
[13:32] <ere4si> Malique: the .inf file points to the .exe - it "should' be separate
[13:32] <Dr_willis> Hmnm.. I just noticed that in kde. if the icon/folder/file names are so long the icon names wrap around.. it WILL be smart enough to consider a _ to be a start of a new word and wrap the whole word to the next line
[13:33] <ubuntu_> hey guy
[13:33] <jpatrick> jetsaredim: yes, it is the artwork for Hardy
[13:33] <Malique> It's not in this case. The RaLink setup exe is self contained and not a container :( I DID manage to get a hold of the driver but I can't tell if it's 64 or 32 bit or not
[13:33] <Malique> Does wine run as if it's 32 or 64bit?
[13:34] <nosrednaekim> I think it also works in 64 bitbut i'm not positive
[13:34] <Malique> ndiswrapper does seem to be able to tell the driver is installed and the card is present
[13:35] <Malique> but it still isn't showing up as a working card in iwlist or anything else
[13:35] <ubuntu_> i was trying to install something for my mouse but he said to uninstall xmodmouse something like that and i not abble to enter in startx because he said /ect/x11/x not executable
[13:35] <katad0t1s> !kde4
[13:35] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[13:37] <ubuntu_> someone can help me plz
[13:40] <Malique> :'( This stupid wireless card won't work no matter what I throw at it! So much for RaLink having such good Linux support
[13:41] <nosrednaekim> Malique: try using 32 bit kubuntu
[13:41] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_: try "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"
[13:41] <Dr_willis> Malique,  ive herd of a lot of people disssapointed with them
[13:41] <Malique> Have I got much more chance of getting it working in there? And my sound which is now completely borked after compiling alsa from source?
[13:42] <ubuntu_> nosrednaekim:  thanks
[13:42] <nosrednaekim> Malique: sure...there are far better windows drivers for 32 bit
[13:44] <Malique> *sigh* OK then, guess I gotta download the 32bit iso, and pray to God it'll fix my issues. Thanks for all your help guys
[13:46] <Dr_willis> Malique,  Try a beta cd of the next release? it may have support for your sound card.
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> Malique: what sound card you got??
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> hydrogen: are you in a school of some kind?
[13:52] <Malique> Dr_willis: I was already using Hardy Beta. ActionParsnip: It's a HD Intel chip, ALC883 or ALC263, not sure which (there's those two plus a digital one in aplay -l)
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> Malique: does lspci show which?
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> Malique: you seen this one? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[13:54] <Malique> ActionParsnip: I'm pretty sure it shows them all as being one card. aplay does as well, those three are considered to be subdevices of one card
[13:56] <Malique> ActionParsnip: Yer I saw that one briefly, but didn't try it. Meh, I'll wait until I get the 32bit Kubuntu and install that, if I still have sound troubles then I'll try it then.
[13:56] <Malique> Not much I can do now until I get the 32bit iso downloaded
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> Malique: looks pretty comprehensive. I'd give it a whirl
[13:58] <rysiek|pl> guys, can hostname contain non-ASCII chars (i.e. Polish diacritics)?
[13:59] <Malique> ActionParsnip: Thanks, I think I will, I'll try it out first if the sound doesn't work out of the box with the 32bit version (which, knowing my luck, I highly suspect it will still suck)
[14:02] <ForsakenSoul> Hi I know that this isn't the right channel to ask for this but has anyone here used virtual box and had a problem with starting it
[14:02] <ForsakenSoul> in vbox the guys could actually help me
[14:02] <troofy> if i dont have dns control, hurdles will i face in my .com?
[14:03] <ForsakenSoul> when I was using ubuntu I had no problem with vbox but in kubuntu it just won't start the VM giving a status of aborted
[14:11] <denis_> !de
[14:11] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[14:12] <llutz>  !apt-fix
[14:12] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[14:18] <denis__> !de
[14:18] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[14:34] <genii> Quiet
[14:34] <clau30_> shh
[14:40] <adude> can you install kubuntu on a mac
[14:41] <nosrednaekim> yes
[14:41] <adude> thanks
[14:43] <o_0_> hi everyone.. :)
[14:43] <adude> hi
[14:43] <nosrednaekim> hey o_0_
[14:43] <Ace2016> hi
[14:43] <Ace2016> 0_o
[14:45] <o_0_> :) i got into some trouble with Kubuntu connecting to the internet.. and i am new to linux.. could you guys help..? i would be grateful..
[14:45] <nosrednaekim> we can try... state the exact problem :)
[14:45] <o_0_> okie
[14:46] <o_0_> great
[14:46] <o_0_> i connect to the net through cable modem..
[14:47] <o_0_> i started using Kubuntu Gutsy since October last year and was using Ubuntu Feisty a couple of months before that. net was working fine with both of the systems...
[14:48] <o_0_> until a few days back when it suddenly stopped working.. It shows me connected. but there is no data transfer.. even a domain name is not resolved if i request a web page..
[14:48] <nosrednaekim> o_0_: how about pinging?
[14:49] <genii> Likely dns, yes
[14:49] <nosrednaekim> yep
[14:49] <o_0_> just before this happened, Kubuntu hung up one day... i thought this might have left something corrupt..
[14:50] <o_0_> nosrednaekim: i can't ping any machines on the LAN except the one IP that my ISP gave me to log in to my account.. now that is REALLY strange..!
[14:50] <genii> google.com is IP 64.233.187.99, try to ping it
[14:51] <o_0_> well then, i just decided to run pppoeconf once again..
[14:51] <nyko> how do i install domino ?
[14:51] <o_0_> genii: k..
[14:51] <nyko> do he have a apt-get ?
[14:52] <o_0_> it went through smoothly.. same settings again.. but it din't work...
[14:52] <o_0_> well i have Ubuntu feisty installed on the same machine on a different hard disk.. i booted from that one.. i had the same problem there.. :(
[14:53] <luis__> hello guys
[14:53] <luis__> good morning
[14:53] <o_0_> however, windows with which this Ubuntu Feisty dual bpots is connecting to the net without probs.. and that's where i am connected logged in right now :(
[14:53] <luis__> i wantn to ask if anyone knows how can i get to use limewire pro faster
[14:54] <clau30_> o_0_: so does pinging work or not?
[14:54] <clau30_> o_0_: could you post the output of ifconfig?
[14:54] <clau30_> !pastebin | o_0_
[14:55] <ubotu> o_0_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[14:55] <luis__> the things is that i already install it but i am trying to conect it so i can download some music, but is still trying to conect thta means minutos ago and still cannot conect how do i fix this anyone knows??? please
[14:56] <o_0_> clau30_: it didn't work i guess.. what i am sure of though, is that when i put, say google.com in the browser, its not able to resolve the domain name, it just gives up after trying for a while..
[14:57] <clau30_> o_0_:
[14:57] <o_0_> i've posted the output of ifconfig here > http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3092785.0
[14:57] <luis__> so no one knows how to fix this???
[14:58] <clau30_> o_0_: maybe try sudo dhclient eth0? sorry, don't have experience with ppps either
[14:59] <o_0_> clau30_: i am really foxed.. what could have happened overnight :( my ISP does not provide any tech support on Linux :( so i am on my own.. well, of course i do have u guys to help :D
[14:59] <genii> putting google.com in the browser window is not the same as trying to ping the IP address.
[14:59] <o_0_> clau30_: hmmm.. what kind of connection do you use?
[15:00] <clau30_> lan
[15:00] <o_0_> could you just help me with finding a loose end.. i just can't make out anything of it.. windows is connecting to the same connection flawlessly!
[15:00] <clau30_> o_0_: from the university campus :)
[15:00] <clau30_> o_0_: I see you have an IP. you say ping doesn't work?
[15:00] <eagles0513875> join /#java
[15:01] <eagles0513875> is there a java channel on freenode
[15:01] <o_0_> k.. I am LAN too.. sorry i dont understand much abt the difference between LAN / DSL cable and all.. all i know is I am on LAN, and i have to dial to connect..
[15:01] <clau30_> eagles0513875: /join #java
[15:03] <eagles0513875> it says attempting to join and thats it
[15:03] <clau30_> eagles0513875: no problem for me to join..
[15:03] <o_0_> genii: ok.. sorry i missed ur message.. would it be different if i do "ping google.com"?
[15:03] <eagles0513875> hummmmmmmmmmmmmm
[15:03] <clau30_> o_0_: yes, try ping 64.233.187.99 instead
[15:03] <eagles0513875> figured it out i have to be identified to join
[15:03] <o_0_> genii: this IRC client on windoze really sux :( i am so missing Konversation
[15:04] <o_0_> clau30_: well i can only ping my own machine.. not sure about the LAN.. but it doesn't work with urls like say, google.com
[15:05] <suppenkasper__> hello, i have some problems while compilinig a programm, sry, for my bad english, here are the failures from the terminal http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/892102
[15:05] <clau30_> o_0_: try tracepath 64.233.187.99
[15:07] <clau30_> suppenkasper__: seems like you're missing some headers. have you tried ./configure before make?
[15:07] <clau30_> suppenkasper__:
[15:07] <clau30_> suppenkasper__: also try sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[15:07] <suppenkasper__> clau30_: i installed the build-essentials already
[15:07] <clau30_> suppenkasper__:
[15:07] <clau30_> suppenkasper__: seems to me you're missing the linux header files
[15:09] <o_0_> clau30_: genii: could it be possible that my ISP's DNS servers have changed and it doesn't automatically update in (k)ubuntu?
[15:09] <clau30_> o_0_: have you tried the command above? what is the result?
[15:09] <genii> o_0_: The dea here would be that if you can successfully: ping 64.233.187.99       then the issue is with your dns
[15:09] <o_0_> clau30_: oops! not yet.. wil have to reboot to try it.. i only have this one machine..
[15:09] <clau30_> o_0_: ah ok..
[15:09] <suppenkasper__> clau30_: the are already installed, too i checked it two minutes before ( sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.24-12-generic)
[15:11] <clau30_> suppenkasper__: I suppose you have read http://alpha.dyndns.org/ov511/install.html ;)
[15:11] <suppenkasper__> clau30_: i am using hardy, could this be the problem?
[15:11] <o_0_> genii: ok.. that would let me find out whether its a dns issue, right? how else can i go about trying to find whats wrong?
[15:11] <o_0_> genii: what could have gone wrong if i am not even able to ping IPs on our LAN itself?
[15:12] <clau30_> o_0_: if you know the dns IP you could enter them in linux in /etc/resolv.conf
[15:12] <o_0_> clau30_: ok..
[15:13] <clau30_> o_0_: do you happen to know german?
[15:14] <o_0_> clau30_: no :) only know Hindi and English..
[15:14] <clau30_> ok :)
[15:15] <genii> work needs me, away from computer a bit
[15:16] <o_0_> clau30_: actually according to ifconfig, the machine gets connected to the net.. i guess it does when we can get the ppp0 entry in ifconfig's output, right?
[15:17] <MF-Debian> well i have to say, kde4 is rad
[15:19] <denis__> hello, I treid to install the ov51-jpeg driver for my hercules webcam
[15:19] <denis__> tried
[15:19] <denis__> I compiled it but I also have to build a kernel modul which didn't work
[15:20] <clau30_> o_0_: yes, you get an IP..
[15:20] <denis__> who?
[15:20] <denis__> !paste
[15:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[15:20] <clau30_> o_0_: seems like it's a dns problem, that's why I would try to find the dns server(s) in windows and add them to /etc/resolv.conf
[15:21] <nyko> how to install dekorator and domino
[15:21] <denis__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61805/
[15:21] <emilsedgh> nyko: using adept?
[15:21] <nyko> yes
[15:21] <nyko> nothing
[15:21] <emilsedgh> install kde-style-domino
[15:22] <emilsedgh> and search for dekorator =)
[15:22] <o_0_> clau30_: hmmm.. :) exactly as i guessed.. only that i dont know where they are shown under windoes :(
[15:22] <clau30_> o_0_: have no idea either.. google it
[15:22] <o_0_> clau30_: okie
[15:22] <nyko> emilsedgh:  how to install domino lol
[15:24] <emilsedgh> nyko: go to adept and find search domino, the name should bt kde-style-domino....just install it
[15:24] <nyko> ok
[15:28]  * lombra esta fora: Saindo por enquanto.
[15:28] <nyko> emilsedgh:  no domino in adept
[15:30] <o_0_> clau30_: well the dns servers are shown in the output of "ipconfig /all" at the DOS prompt in windows
[15:30] <nyko> emilsedgh: nvm i install il ./configure make make install but thanks
[15:31] <emilsedgh> nyko: sudo apt-get install kde-style-domino ?
[15:31] <clau30_> o_0_: cool. no go to linux and write them to /etc/resolv.conf and see what happens
[15:31] <clau30_> o_0_: should look something like nameserver 111.111.111.111
[15:32] <clau30_> o_0_: then maybe restart the interface (restart the internet connection)
[15:32] <o_0_> clau30_: ok..great.. will just do that..  what do u suggest as a second step for troubleshooting this issue?
[15:32] <o_0_> yeah.. u mean sudo poff -a; #and then
[15:32] <clau30_> o_0_: well if it's not the dns servers, then that would suck :)
[15:32] <o_0_> pon dsl-provider again
[15:32] <o_0_> ;(
[15:33] <clau30_> yea, I guess (like I said, I've never used ppp)
[15:33] <clau30_> o_0_: wait a minute, iptables could cause trouble also
[15:33] <o_0_> lol. i'll have to login to doze again for IRC then.. :D
[15:33] <nyko> emilsedgh:  no imposible to find this process
[15:34] <clau30_> o_0_: I sometimes can't get connected when I freshly boot, but after I reset iptables, it works again
[15:34] <emilsedgh> nyko: dunno then :(
[15:35] <o_0_> clau30_: ok.. i recently heard that my ISP might have changed their LAN speed limit or whatever it is..(from 10 Mbps to something else); could that cause this kinna problem?
[15:35] <o_0_> clau30_: ok.. how do u reset iptables?
[15:35] <clau30_> o_0_: actually shouldn't be
[15:36] <o_0_> clau30_: but hey.. this is the first time in last 8 months that i got this kind of problem, and i'v been using Ubuntu / Kubuntu all these months to connect to the internet
[15:36] <clau30_> o_0_: strange, I know..
[15:36] <clau30_> o_0_: I use kmyfirewall to reset iptables :)
[15:37] <clau30_> o_0_: sudo iptables --flush
[15:37] <clau30_> o_0_: Warning though! it could unsecure your computer
[15:37] <clau30_> iptables is a kind of firewall
[15:37] <o_0_> clau30_: ok.. but my guess was that since i have never touched iptables so far at home, i will not need to touch them either :P
[15:38] <clau30_> o_0_: maybe true :)
[15:38] <o_0_> clau30_: unless, of course, i want some firewall security..
[15:40] <o_0_> clau30_: where are you from? if u dont mind :)
[15:40] <clau30_> o_0_: I live in germany
[15:41] <o_0_> clau30_: k.. great. i live in India
[15:41] <o_0_> clau30_: u studying?
[15:41] <clau30_> o_0_: computer science
[15:42] <o_0_> clau30_: k.. great.. hey.. i got into this little trble just now.. :) i got dc for a few seconds.. so this client automatically added "_" to my nasty nick :P
[15:43] <o_0_> coz my nick was still there as a ghost, i guess..
[15:43] <clau30_> ok...
[15:43] <emilsedgh> o_0_: so ghost it...
[15:43] <o_0_> clau30_: now its gone, timed out.. but how do i change my nick back to the original one?
[15:43] <o_0_> i dont know the commands :)
[15:43] <clau30_> o_0_: type /nick whatever
[15:44] <nyko> emilsedgh:  do you knwo how to install kde theme ?
[15:44] <emilsedgh>  /msg nickserv ghost yourpassword, kicks the ghost out
[15:44] <o_0_> k.. i thought it was something as simple as that.. lol
[15:44] <emilsedgh> nyko: by installing it from package manager!
[15:44] <o_0_> emilsedgh: cool ! thanks for that.. :)
[15:44] <nyko> emilsedgh:  package manager like .deb ?
[15:45] <emilsedgh> nyko: adept is your package manager
[15:45] <nyko> emilsedgh: lolll not all theme is in package menager
[15:45] <Itaku> how do i play a dvd on kubuntu?
[15:45] <rico> Hey :)
[15:45] <nyko> emilsedgh: i got a theme.kth
[15:45] <nosrednaekim> !dvd
[15:45] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[15:46] <nosrednaekim> hi rico
[15:46] <rico> I'm trying to install KDE 4 onto my Kubuntu, but I'm chasing my own tail atm :(
[15:46] <emilsedgh> nyko: run kcontrol from run command dialog, then go to appearance->Themes
[15:47] <nyko> emilsedgh: yes is what i looking for thanks
[15:47] <o_0> clau30_: is it possible to install Linux on MacBook Pro?
[15:47] <rico> I tryed to edit the sources.list file as the site says but it wont allow me to save it, I dont have access, and I dont know how to login as root :S
[15:47] <vbgunz> anybody have a clue how to undo an rm command on several files?
[15:47] <clau30_> o_0: yes, think so
[15:48] <clau30_> vbgunz: lol
[15:48] <o_0> clau30_: hmm.. i did google it but couldn't find one straightforward way to do so..
[15:48] <clau30_> vbgunz: there is an experimental undelete program, but I just hope you haven't deleted anything important
[15:48] <rico> anyone know how to get KDE 4 to work?
[15:48] <SlimeyPete> !kde4
[15:48] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[15:49] <SlimeyPete> ^^ those packages should work
[15:49] <clau30_> o_0: don't know..
[15:49] <vbgunz> clau30_: not too important at all, just some notes I was working on
[15:49] <vbgunz> clau30_: what experimental program are you talking about?
[15:49] <rico> i tryed to add the command to my source file and it wont let me save the source.list :(
[15:49] <clau30_> vbgunz: http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html
[15:49] <nosrednaekim> rico: run kate with kdesudo
[15:49] <SlimeyPete> rico: did you use sudo/kdesudo ?
[15:50] <rico> no
[15:50] <SlimeyPete> "kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[15:50] <rico> is that a command u put into terminal?
[15:51] <SlimeyPete> yes, or the run dialogue (press alt-f2)
[15:51] <vbgunz> clau30_: thanks, I hope this sheds some light :)
[15:51] <clau30_> vbgunz: it does, kind of
[15:51] <SlimeyPete> rico: sudo/kdesudo runs a program with root (administrator) priveliges
[15:51] <clau30_> vbgunz: it's a good read :)
[15:51] <dennister> hey channel...anyone need some newbie-type help?
[15:51] <clau30_> dennister: yea yea! :)
[15:52] <dennister> lol...i thought i'd offer b4 i moved on to my issues :-)
[15:52] <dennister> clau30_: what's ur issue?
[15:52] <clau30_> dennister: none, sorry :P
[15:53] <rico> finally it allowed me to save the source.list, thanks, so now I just go to adapt manager to install KDE 4?
[15:53] <dennister> lol @ clau30_  can u help me with apache then?
[15:53] <SlimeyPete> rico: when in adept manager, tell it to update its package list
[15:53] <clau30_> dennister: hmm, I won't be around very long
[15:53] <dennister> ok, np
[15:53] <clau30_> 5-10 mins
[15:53] <SlimeyPete> rico: i.e. click "fetch updates"
[15:54] <SlimeyPete> then you can search for the kde4 packages and install them
[15:54] <SlimeyPete> rico: by the way there is a channel called #kubuntu-kde4 which is dedicated to kde4 support
[15:54] <dennister> question for all: how do i get a list of all the standard ports most programs use? I want to change some of them
[15:54] <rico> ah k, thanks
[15:55] <ShawnRisk> kubuntu is cool
[15:55] <Itaku> i get this
[15:55] <Itaku> -su: /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh: No such file or directory
[15:55] <rico> that it is
[15:55] <arkygeek> hi everyone.  is there a problem with latest cups and novell's iPrint client?
[15:55] <arkygeek> it is locking up my browser in both linux and osx
[15:55] <ShawnRisk> can I help in development
[15:56] <SlimeyPete> dennister: there isn't such a list, as far as I know (it'd have to be enormous). Best thing to do is just google for the program name and the word "port", or ask a specific question here.
[15:56] <o_0> arkygeek: excuse me for interruption, but are you using osx and linux on the same machine?
[15:56] <dennister> well i found such a list over a year ago, but have lost it since during upgrades...also, my apache webserver won't start...although it was working fine last night
[15:57] <Itaku> -su: /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh: No such file or directory
[15:57] <Itaku> r
[15:57] <Itaku> i get that error
[15:57] <SlimeyPete> dennister: apache uses ports 80 and 443 by default
[15:58] <dennister> yes, and i'm using 443 for security...but today I've been told that 443 is already being used...but i don't know by what
[15:58] <SlimeyPete> dennister: netstat -p
[15:59] <SlimeyPete> that'll show you which programs are using which ports
[15:59] <SlimeyPete> dennister: you might need to use sudo too to see all programs
[16:01] <maxagaz>  I have no borders to my windows
[16:01] <maxagaz> it's my first time to use kde on gutsy
[16:01] <maxagaz> I always use gnome
[16:01] <SlimeyPete> maxagaz: do you use compiz?
[16:01] <SlimeyPete> I found that compiz and kwin conflicted on my system
[16:01] <genii> SlimeyPete: There is such a list, incidentally. http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers
[16:01] <Itaku> how do i play dvd's when i cant use that one file thing
[16:01] <Itaku> -su: /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh: No such file or directory
[16:01] <dennister> SlimeyPete: thx...been using netstat -an too much...
[16:01] <nyko> how to play a url in amarok ?
[16:01] <maxagaz> SlimeyPete: should be compiz-fusion I guess
[16:01] <dennister> genii: my hero :)
[16:01] <clau30_> bye
[16:01] <SlimeyPete> genii: cheers
[16:02] <arkygeek> o_0: yes.  24" imac triple booting with rEFIt :D
[16:02] <genii> dennister: I have these sorts of pages bookmarked for just such an occasion
[16:03] <dennister> genii: yes, i wanted to kick myself when i found i'd lost this list
[16:03] <arkygeek> o_0: its usually great, but this iprint thing is getting out of hand.  leopard != iprint && hardy herron != iPrint  :'(
[16:03] <ShawnRisk> how do I update from 7.10?
[16:03] <o_0> arkygeek: hey cool.. i was recently plannin on buyin a macbook.. but was really foxed over this issue.. i will get it only if it can handle any linux distro
[16:03] <Pici> ShawnRisk: 8.04 is not yet released.
[16:03] <o_0> arkygeek: oh..
[16:04] <arkygeek> everything works beautifully
[16:04] <o_0> arkygeek: how did you do it..?
[16:04] <ShawnRisk> oh
[16:04] <o_0> arkygeek: i just hope its not much of a PITA
[16:04] <o_0> :P
[16:04] <ShawnRisk> how do I help out with Kubuntu development?
[16:04] <arkygeek> o_0: there are lots of howto's    but its easy.  toughest thing was the triple boot configuration probably
[16:05] <o_0> arkygeek: i would only need leopard with any linux distro.. is that a bit simpler? :)
[16:05] <arkygeek> much
[16:05] <o_0> arkygeek: cool!
[16:05] <arkygeek> also, ||'s works good
[16:06] <arkygeek> full screen with Spaces and you can confuse the hell out of people
[16:06] <arkygeek> :P:P
[16:06] <o_0> arkygeek: great.. did you need to compile the kernel with some changes? thats the part i am afraid of ;(
[16:06] <o_0> arkygeek: lol
[16:07] <jast-mxm> is it wise to disable my swap partition while in my live system? i want to disable it, move to a new partition then turn it back on
[16:07] <Sevis_> Hello, does anyone know a DVD player that handles built-in menus?
[16:07] <dennister> genii: why would everything be working fine (listening on the right ports) one day and then have problems the next?
[16:08]  * o_0 wonders if computers have started to develop the way human female did.. :P
[16:08] <sistema> what so me?
[16:08] <jast-mxm> anyone have an answers about the swap question?
[16:08] <sistema> esto es un chat?
[16:09] <rickest> update-rc.d doesn't have a 'show' option, anyone know how to do that (list services and their settings?)
[16:09] <sistema> Spanich?
[16:10] <yakuzi> !espagnol
[16:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about espagnol - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:10] <jast-mxm> sistema: #kubuntu-es
[16:10] <genii> dennister: IP change possibly, then the server is on the right ports but the router is forwarding to an IP it doesn't have. Also maybe a reboot will load the port values for things like sshd from its config file, which unless altered for the new one will default to it's usual values.
[16:10] <genii> Apologies for lag, work is requiring me on and off here
[16:13] <dennister> genii: ok, first part of what u said was totally accurate, as i had that problem last night when I plopped my fileserver into a newer, faster box --the fix i used was to make sure the newer box had the same IP as the old one, and everything worked fine again...
[16:15] <dennister> the prob today i am having trouble figuring out...i haven't changed the ssh port at all, and the webserver is trying to use the standard 443 port, but terminal tells me that port is already beign used by something else :(
[16:16] <vbgunz> how do I completely change the meaning of "rm" system wide? is this possible? change it to mv to trash or something?
[16:16] <ShawnRisk> there   must be a way to see all ports like nbstat or something
[16:16] <sistema> alguien habla español????
[16:16] <llutz> dennister: netstat -tulpen
[16:16] <ShawnRisk> vbgunz:  why?
[16:16] <metbsd_> yah you can't. it's for security
[16:16] <genii> dennister: If some configs used eth0 specifically, and you transplanted the drive to another box, it will normally reserve eth0 for the old (now nonexistent) adapter and make the one it finds in the new box eth1. So if apache2 ports file contains eth0 for instance to listen on, instances after this will not be able to use it
[16:17] <vbgunz> ShawnRisk: mistakes happen and I don't like the unable to easily undo feature
[16:18] <llutz> vbgunz: replace "mv" with a shellscript of your own
[16:18] <metbsd_> use alias
[16:18] <metbsd_> newbie..
[16:18] <llutz> aliase can be unset
[16:19] <dennister> genii: ok, that makes sense, altho i usually make sure eth0 is used all the time...(once i had 2 eth devices and it gave me no end of troubles)
[16:19] <metbsd_> using alias is better than replace system rm!
[16:19] <metbsd_> dam it...
[16:20] <ShawnRisk> does Konqueror work well with gmail?
[16:22] <vbgunz> what is the console command to properly send something to the trash? along with info files?
[16:22] <dennister> genii: ok, mystery may have been solved: checked the router software just to make sure of the ip address matchup...my fileserver says i still have a static ip address of 192.168.1.67, but my router software says it's connected via 192.168.1.55
[16:27] <ShawnRisk> seems everyone died
[16:28] <nyko> amarok
[16:28] <nyko> oups dsl
[16:28] <nyko> oups sorry *
[16:29] <dennister> genii: and get this! all of a sudden the static ip for the fileserver is showing up as eth1...no wonder!
[16:29] <dennister> k...going for a cig b4 i work on the fix
[16:29] <genii> dennister: I explained eth0 will now be nonexistent.
[16:34] <genii> dennister: The file /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules contains the list of adapters it will reserve names for. You can remove the old eth0 line and make the eth1 into eth0. This will make the new adapter into eth0. Udev at the least will need a restart, but it's better in this case to reboot after changes there.
[16:41] <tzd> Hi! I'm having a problem with my external hdd. For some reason it just won't show my NTFS partiton? It does show my smaller ext3 partition that's on the same drive. Can someone please help me?
[16:43] <ShawnRisk> how big is NTFS?
[16:45] <genii> I'm tempted to say it's very large and evil
[16:46] <dennister> genii: ok, I've edited the udev...persistent-net.rules by swapping the old fileserver box to eth1 (in case I ever want to use it again with that nic card's mac address) and the new fileserver box to eth0
[16:47] <dennister> rebooting the fileserver now
[16:48] <ShawnRisk> can you reboot your secondary harddrive without rebooting full linux?
[16:51] <genii> dennister: If your router supports to assign an IP based on mac address, make sure it's giving the one you want to the server as well. Or if you are manually assigning it in /etc/network/interfaces or similar, that it's not in the dhcp range the router is also handing out
[16:54] <blue_> hi
[16:54] <SlimeyPete> hi
[16:54] <blue_> Anyone recommend a IDE for C++ programming in Kubuntu?
[16:55] <genii> KDevelop
[16:55] <blue_> im installin Kdevelop atm :D
[16:55] <suppenkasper_> sudo modprobe -r ov511 doesnt work -> FATAL: Module ov511 is in use.  how can i fix this problem?
[16:55] <SlimeyPete> I don't use c++ but have heard that most people use kdevelop, or eclipse
[16:55] <ShawnRisk> I use Code::Blocks in Kubuntu
[16:55] <Trollinator> I use Eclipse CDT 4.0, and it's by far the best IDE for C++ on Linux.
[16:56] <blue_> i want to get eclipse workin for java too, but it didnt work last time, im gonna try to install it again
[16:56] <ShawnRisk> I really like Code::Blocks as it is cross-OS
[16:56] <Trollinator> So is eclipse...
[16:56] <blue_> i think il try eclipse as i used it and carbide before on vista, ty guys
[16:57] <ShawnRisk> vista gross
[16:58] <blue_> well kubuntu doesnt have DX10.....
[16:58] <ShawnRisk> and it shouldn't
[16:59] <Trollinator> it should actually
[16:59] <Trollinator> Gaming is the only reason why many people still have Windows.
[16:59] <blue_> can we not do the linux is better then windows thing?
[16:59] <ShawnRisk> true
[16:59] <ShawnRisk> yes
[17:00] <blue_> im a games programmer :P hence y u wanna get some experience in linux
[17:01] <ShawnRisk> then you should be able to make amazing games in Linux.
[17:01] <blue_> i hope so, i dont see why games shouldnt be multi platform
[17:01] <tzd> ShawnRisk: Sorry, had to leave for a few while. it's roughly 400gb. I've tried unplugging the drive and remount it and it says it's activated but i am unable to see it within dolphin
[17:02] <ShawnRisk> did you try terminal?
[17:02] <yotux> is kde 4 ready for kubuntu 8.04
[17:03] <ShawnRisk> blue_: I mean without DX10
[17:04] <stond> does anybody know a good and easy to use video converter/encoder for KDE I am using Kubuntu 7.10 installed on a PS3
[17:05] <blue_> well yeah, no reason a good game has to use DX10, OpenGL is very capable
[17:05] <tzd> Trollinator: doubt that's the only reason why they still have windows ;P
[17:05] <Trollinator> it' certainly the only reason for me :)
[17:05] <tzd> haha fair enough ;)
[17:05] <nosrednaekim> stond: avidemux
[17:06] <ShawnRisk> tzd: did you try to load the NTFS in terminal?
[17:06] <dennister> genii: u were a bit too late with that last advice, i'm afraid, cause after the reboot things were still problematic, so I changed the router info to make sure the first ip address it gave out was to the server...i'll have to change that again to match your advice :-)
[17:06] <dennister> 'tis ok
[17:06] <blue_> btu some people have macs too, not like macs are more useful than a pc with windows or linux
[17:06] <tzd> ShawnRisk: no i haven't
[17:06] <tzd> ShawnRisk: by "load" you mean mount right?
[17:07] <ShawnRisk> mount yes
[17:07] <tzd> ok :) will try it
[17:07] <ShawnRisk> blue_: I have a mac, with windows and linux on there
[17:07] <blue_> what hardware>
[17:07] <blue_> ?
[17:08] <ShawnRisk> macbook
[17:08] <ShawnRisk> intel
[17:08] <blue_> the core2 with 8600gt?
[17:08] <ShawnRisk> I am not 100% sure, this is a year old Macbook
[17:09] <blue_> ah maybe not then, the newer macbooks are similar spec to my laptop, i almost got one witht he intention of puttin vista on it
[17:09] <ShawnRisk> vista :(
[17:10] <blue_> its massivley better than XP
[17:10] <ShawnRisk> tzd: when you know if it works let us know, there might be an error for us to think about
[17:11] <tzd> ShawnRisk: well it's been ages since i mounted it the manual way... I'm trying with this cmd: sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sdc1 /media/sdc1 but I the receive an error message
[17:11] <ShawnRisk> which is?
[17:12] <tzd> ShawnRisk: hmm ops my bad... ntfs instead of ext3 :/ have to try that before I'll ask
[17:12] <tzd> ShawnRisk: ok it mounted now in terminal
[17:12] <dennister> k...gonna repower everything one more time...better work now! :-) bbs
[17:13] <ShawnRisk> tzd:  can you see it in terminal?
[17:14] <tzd> ShawnRisk: ok i am able to access it the "long" ( /media/sdc1) way via dolphin. Oh and yes I can see it in terminal. The issue i have now is that i can't see it within "Storage Media" for dolphin. All my hdds usually show up there but this partition doesnt
[17:15] <ShawnRisk> tzd:  are you sure you set it up to do that?
[17:15] <iyo> hi, I can`t finish my installation of kubuntu. It fails when it has copied about 400 MB to harddisk. Do you know why?
[17:16] <tzd> ShawnRisk: I'm not sure, but i do know it has been there before.
[17:16] <ShawnRisk> tzd: how did you mount before?
[17:16] <nyko> how do i configure my web cam
[17:16] <tzd> ShawnRisk: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdc1 /media/sdc1
[17:17] <ShawnRisk> no before that
[17:17] <tzd> ShawnRisk: before that it didn't work due to wrong filesystem... i tried with sudo mount -t ext2 ...
[17:17] <ShawnRisk> oh
[17:18] <tzd> ShawnRisk: and before that my hdd mounted automatically
[17:18] <tzd> ShawnRisk: according to my fstab: /dev/sdc1 /media/sdc1 ntfs defaults,umask=007,uid=0,gid=46,auto,rw,nouser 0 1
[17:19] <ShawnRisk> tzd:  thinking
[17:19] <stond> does anybody know a good video converter/encoder that is easy to use and to install I am using Kubuntu 7.10 installed on my PS3
[17:20] <tzd> ShawnRisk: ok :) I've found out that when this happens (when the partition doesn't mount automatically) it sometimes works after a few reboots.
[17:21] <nyko> someone can help me whit my webcam plzz
[17:23] <ShawnRisk> tzd: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Windows  look here that is where you will find out some info.  If it doesn't go, then look at #17
[17:25] <tzd> ShawnRisk: Thanks! will have a look later. Just noticed an odd thing in my fstab... Above the line i pasted before i had the following on it's own: auto nouser,noauto,atime,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
[17:26] <tzd> ShawnRisk: i'm pretty sure that might have something to do with it?
[17:26] <genii> Network problems, will return. If anyone sees dennister tell them I'll return when possible.
[17:26] <ShawnRisk> tzd:  Might, but it auto nouser,noauto odd
[17:27] <tzd> ShawnRisk: indeed and there's no device parameterns and no mounting points listed
[17:27] <ShawnRisk> tzd:  that too, maybe you should read up on what should go in there
[17:28] <tzd> ShawnRisk: I'll have a look on my other partitions just to make sure i don't accidently remove any of those mounting points
[17:29] <ShawnRisk> tzd:  that would be good
[17:30] <ForsakenSoul> can someone tell me if kubuntu 8.04 is stable enough to use ?
[17:30] <Tm_T> ForsakenSoul: if you have to ask, no
[17:31] <Tm_T> ForsakenSoul: longer answer, #ubuntu+1 might know what's not stable, but what is "stable enough" for you depends on you
[17:31] <MF-Debian> ForsakenSoul: also there are 2 versions
[17:32] <ForsakenSoul> with KDE 4 and KDE 3,6 right ?
[17:32] <MF-Debian> ForsakenSoul: one with kde4 and one with 3.5
[17:32] <ForsakenSoul> yeah
[17:32] <nmjohnso> is anyone else haveing trouble keeping k9copy running?
[17:33] <MF-Debian> ll in the process of being ported i guess
[17:33] <MF-Debian> ForsakenSoul: i'm using the kde4 one right now, seems stable, but lacking a few things that are still in the process of being ported i guess
[17:33] <ShawnRisk> tzd:   I know you will get it working :D
[17:33] <MF-Debian> heh
[17:34] <nmjohnso> i just installed it from repos and it starts going but then crashes after about 15% done
[17:34] <tzd> ShawnRisk: hehe I hope so. Thanks a lot for your help! Have modified fstab now so I'm off for a quick reboot. Hopefully I'll return within the next 5 minutes ^^
[17:34] <ShawnRisk> tzd:  :P
[17:34] <ForsakenSoul> MF-Debian, well I need VirtualBox to work because I have problem with the old kubuntu ... makes some strange things and no one was able to help me
[17:35] <ForsakenSoul> I also need it for ruby programing watching films listening to music
[17:35]  * milian is away: Zur Zeit nicht da.
[17:35] <MF-Debian> ForsakenSoul: i dont know what "makes some strange things" means sorry
[17:36] <iyo> how big partion do I need for /boot ?
[17:36] <nmjohnso> i only use 3 partitions
[17:36] <MF-Debian> crackhead_25: got any?
[17:36] <ForsakenSoul> MF-Debian it means that it doesn't want to start a new VM and doesn't show any errors
[17:36] <ForsakenSoul> and nothing in the log
[17:36] <ForsakenSoul> just aborts
[17:36] <MF-Debian> ForsakenSoul: ah ok
[17:37] <ForsakenSoul> MF-Debian that means strange things :D
[17:38] <jussi01> !away > milian
[17:40] <tzd> ShawnRisk: Yep, that did it :) Sorry for taking your time in vain. Thanks for your patience and help though!
[17:40] <medhat> hi
[17:40] <fenix> Que Lindo es el mundo del la liberta..
[17:41] <medhat> i have tnt2 nvidia i want enable desktop effects is there any body know how cuz its not working at all
[17:41] <nmjohnso> is there another program to copy dvds that works as well?
[17:41] <ShawnRisk> tzd:  No problem I love to help, if you have anymore questions let me know
[17:42] <MF-Debian> nmjohnso: 1 to 1 copy, or shrinking included?
[17:42] <nmjohnso> it in the repos...shrinking doesn't matter i have a dvd burner so either way it should be ok
[17:42] <tzd> ShawnRisk: hehe will do ;) No worries so far... now when i got my disk "back" im about to boot up that old winXP ;p
[17:43] <ShawnRisk> oh okay
[17:43] <a_c_m> what FTP client would people recomend? KFTPGrabber is really bad
[17:44] <a_c_m> i've resorted to using fireftp (firefox plugin)
[17:44] <tzd> a_c_m: agree. Let me know if you find a good one please
[17:44] <a_c_m> but feel there MUST be better ones out there
[17:45] <genii> konqueror is not a bad ftp client
[17:45] <nyko> no one know how to enable my web cam on linux
[17:45] <ShawnRisk> tzd:  What are you doing now?
[17:46] <tzd> ShawnRisk: modifying a few windows program i can't use in linux :)
[17:46] <ShawnRisk> like which ones?
[17:46] <genii> !info kasablanca
[17:47]  * genii probs at the bot
[17:47] <genii> *prods
[17:48] <tzd> ShawnRisk: photoshop
[17:49] <tzd> ShawnRisk: well i suppose i can use it via wine but i always seems to get in trouble with wine
[17:49]  * DOOM_NX helloooooooooooooo
[17:49] <medhat> hey is there any body know hot to enable desktop effects on tnt nvidia
[17:50] <ShawnRisk> tzd: you can use GIMP, or http://max.limpag.com/2007/05/27/installing-photoshop-on-ubuntu-linux/
[17:51] <tzd> ShawnRisk: i usually use gimp which is great but i need my macros ;)
[17:51] <dennister> genii: u still here? i'm still having problems, I'm afraid :(
[17:52] <tzd> ShawnRisk: And since i already have it installed on windows via vmware then there's no need really for me to use wine
[17:52] <tzd> ShawnRisk: but thanks anyway :)
[17:53] <genii> dennister: I'm around, back and forth from work.
[17:53] <ShawnRisk> tzd:  Your welcome
[17:54] <dennister> definitely using eth0 at every reboot; router's only giving out dchp addresses for a range that excludes both this pc and the fileserver (they're both on static), and while x11vnc, samba, mysql and postgres are all on right ports, but apache still wants to listen on 0.0.0.0.443
[17:54] <ShawnRisk> how do I install flash in Konqueror?
[17:56] <genii> dennister: What is your Listen line in /etc/apache2/ports.conf           ?
[17:57] <ShawnRisk> anyone?
[17:57] <hot-ice> no
[17:57] <medhat> #channels
[17:58] <dennister> genii: the first line is "Listen 81", but further down, due to the ssh, it's "Listen 443"
[17:59] <genii> dennister: Should change from Listen <port#>   to   Listen xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:<port#>    eg: Listen 192.168.0.99:81       or so
[18:00] <dennister> my netstat output for these two ports are o.o.o.o:81 and 0.0.0.0:443...ok
[18:00] <medhat> hey i want to enable desktop effects on nvidia tnt is any body can help
[18:01] <ShawnRisk> tzd: are you good in Photoshop?
[18:02] <genii> dennister: Also add or check in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf      for a line like: ServerName 192.168.0.99       (or what your server IP should be instead)
[18:02] <tzd> ShawnRisk: not really. My gf is really good though ;)
[18:03] <dennister> genii: i've got the actual servername in apache2.conf, and hosts file correctly done; i hate those annoying fqdn error messages...
[18:03]  * DOOM_NX opa giati paei pros ta pisw h karekla?...
[18:04] <genii> dennister: OK
[18:04] <ShawnRisk> tzd:  cool
[18:05] <ShawnRisk> tzd:  This is offtopic of kubuntu but I want to ask you a few questions if you want to answer them.  They are around a group I am starting
[18:06] <tzd> ShawnRisk: yeah, she teaches me occasionaly... i mainly use it for my website: for reoccuring things i have to do
[18:06] <jussi01> !gr | DOOM_NX
[18:06] <ubotu> DOOM_NX: #ubuntu-gr και #kubuntu-gr για Έλληνες χρηστές  /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[18:06] <tzd> ShawnRisk: depends on what kind of questions ;)
[18:06] <jussi01> ShawnRisk: please use #kubuntu-offtopic
[18:06] <DOOM_NX> sorry i'm almost drunk ad exhausted
[18:06] <DOOM_NX> :P
[18:06] <DOOM_NX> don't mind my /ame
[18:07] <jussi01> DOOM_NX: please dont do that here :)
[18:07] <ShawnRisk> jussi: we will
[18:07] <jussi01> :)
[18:07] <lopin> Anybody know how to troubleshoot nvidia graphics card issues?
[18:08] <jussi01> lopin: whats your issue?
[18:08] <ShawnRisk> tzd: just want to know if you want to join my environmental group?  There are more but I want to ask elsewhere and not kick out
[18:08] <lopin> Low resolution and refresh rate.  i think the driver may be wrong...
[18:08] <dennister> genii: hey, i was going to be changing ports for my hardening project anyway, right? :-)
[18:08] <lopin> I'm working on a friends comp, and I've personally only dealt with ATI cards...
[18:09] <jussi01> lopin: please answer a few questions, which card do you have?
[18:09] <lopin> Still trying to figure that out...
[18:09] <lopin> Give me just a sec...
[18:09] <tzd> ShawnRisk: join the channel #kubuntu-offtopic
[18:09] <jussi01> lopin: lspci in terminal should tell you
[18:09] <ShawnRisk> :)
[18:09] <lopin> Did that two secs before you typed that...  ^.^
[18:10] <medhat> hey i have tnt i want to enable desktop effects working
[18:10] <genii> dennister: At least the ssh and 80, yes
[18:10] <jussi01> !compiz | medhat
[18:10] <ubotu> medhat: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[18:11] <lopin> I can't see anyth‌ing...  All I'm getting is unknown device...  Like everywwhere
[18:11] <medhat> iam using gnome right now
[18:11] <lopin> Got it! 00:12.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0531 (rev a2)
[18:11] <jussi01> lopin:  can you paste bin it please? (output of lspci)
[18:11] <jussi01> ahhh
[18:11] <medhat> and it seems that drivers not support pixmap rendering cuz its very old legacy card
[18:11] <jussi01> lopin: ok, so its a pretty new card then?
[18:12] <medhat> :lopin use envy
[18:12] <lopin> I believe so...
[18:12] <lopin> Envy?
[18:12] <lopin> Driver?
[18:12] <jussi01> medhat: please dont recomend envy
[18:12] <jussi01> !nvidia | lopin
[18:12] <ubotu> lopin: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[18:12] <medhat> ok its worked fine for me
[18:12] <jussi01> lopin: please follow that guide
[18:13] <jussi01> !envy | medhat
[18:13] <ubotu> medhat: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[18:13] <lopin> So, It should be relatively similar to what I do for the ATI cards then?
[18:13] <medhat> yes
[18:13] <jussi01> lopin: correct
[18:14] <dennister> genii: ok, had some probs editing the ports.conf properly, but managed it, and now i've finally been able to start apache (even asked for the pass phrase...good sign)
[18:15] <medhat> so can i enable desktop effects or what my tnt2 is old legacy and drivers dont support some extensions is there any one have an idea
[18:16] <jussi01> medhat: I couldnt get my tnt to work with compiz, however you could try asking in #compiz-fusion
[18:17] <rickest> the binary driver page won't help anyone with an nVid 8800
[18:17] <medhat> jussi01: afriend of me could once with libmesa or something
[18:17] <jussi01> medhat: hence why I suggested #compiz-fusion :)
[18:18] <medhat> ok man thanks for giving attention
[18:19] <ramzay> ru
[18:19] <jussi01> !ru | ramzay
[18:19] <ubotu> ramzay: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[18:22] <nyko> hey guy what is the app for record and listen my voice and use mic in kopete
[18:23] <ubuntu__> neon
[18:28] <genii> Netsplit :)
[18:28] <nyko_> lol
[18:31] <marco__> hi
[18:32] <jessica_> how can i make it so when i close the lid of my laptop it will lock the computer
[18:32] <marco__> why wine freezes my laptop?
[18:35] <dennister> genii: i'm still having probs here, I'm afraid...can't load the webserver :(
[18:35]  * DOOM_NX goodnight everyone! just ring me if u need anything, love u all :)
[18:35] <rysiek|pl> guys, I am desperately trying to change the kdm theme
[18:35] <rysiek|pl> I have installed kdmtheme package
[18:36] <genii> dennister: I thought you said apache restarted OK.
[18:36] <ElectricKetchup> hey is there a way I can monitor disk usage from the kubuntu install cd?  I'm used to using gkrellm, but that's not on the CD.
[18:36] <rysiek|pl> but changes made in System Settings -> Look and Feel -> KDM Theme erase the default theme setting, but do not set a new one
[18:37] <rysiek|pl> I get a standard qt-form based kdm greeter
[18:37] <dennister> genii: in terminal it asked me for passphrase, i entered it successfully...terminal told me apache had restarted ok, but i still can't load mysite
[18:38] <genii> dennister: Since it should be using now 81, the url should be like:  http://someplace-or-IP:port           eg: http://mydomain:81
[18:38] <genii> dennister: Also check if 81 is being forwarded or possibly still 80 from previously on router
[18:39] <dennister> right...the router...
[18:41] <jessica_> how can i get it so when i close the lid of my laptop it locks
[18:41] <JoshOvki> jessica_: if you single click the battery in your taskbar
[18:41] <ramzay> !кг
[18:42] <ramzay>  !ru
[18:42] <ramzay> ru
[18:42] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[18:42] <JoshOvki> there are options for "When Laptop Lid Closed" and one of them is lock screen
[18:43] <dennister> genii: ok, i don't think i was or could change the port on the router...but I did finally manage to load mysite by https://<servername>:<newsshport>
[18:43] <jessica_> thanks ive done it
[18:43] <JoshOvki> :)
[18:44] <JoshOvki> i like easy questions. i get to answer them :D
[18:44] <dennister> it's a relief, but it's taken me about 4 hours to get this problem fixed so i can load my site, and I'm not convinced it will work next time i reboot
[18:45] <JoshOvki> dennister: think possitive
[18:45] <dennister> but sql-ledger on apache in the new, faster cpubox is an incredibly faster application :-)
[18:45] <venik> Why does the sound disappear?  Pidgin fails to notify me when others log in, etc., because the sound stopped working.  The only way I know to revive it is to reboot-- just like in WINDOWS... ;-(
[18:45] <dennister> JoshOvki: hey, i was looking on the bright side , heheheh
[18:45] <monolith> How do you make Kopete flash the taskbar when you get an IM in an MSN chat with more than one other person?
[18:46] <dennister> the slowness of setting up the inventory process was taking all my time away from actually building pc's with the inventory
[18:47] <dwidmann> dennister: forget the exacts, but it'd be under the "chat" section instead of im
[18:47] <dennister> now to get the bloody case fan working on the fileserver...
[18:48] <dwidmann> sorry dennister, meant monolith :s
[18:48] <dennister> dwidmann: thx...was very confused
[18:48] <monolith> dwidmann: The chat section of what? the settings menu?
[18:49] <dennister> genii: ur my hero :)
[18:49] <genii> dennister: Bah!
[18:49] <genii> ;)
[18:50] <alberto> Hola
[18:50] <alberto> Hi^^?
[18:51] <dennister> lol...now to get the cdrom prob solved...
[18:51] <sigma_1234> !hello
[18:51] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[18:51] <apollonios> ty
[18:51] <apollonios> :)
[18:51] <alberto> XD
[18:51] <sigma_1234> cdrom problem?
[18:52] <dennister> sigma_1234: yes, cdrom was working fine on old fileserver, then i plopped the drive into a newer, faster pc with a different dvdrw...so now there's an error message when i boot up about the cdrom
[18:53] <dennister> i already tried changing the fstab entry for it...from /dev/scd0 to /dev/cdrom, but nada...same error message
[18:53] <sigma_1234> sure that both drives are not set to master or slave?
[18:54] <dennister> also tried changer the userid and gid from myself to plugdev, but also nada...
[18:54] <dennister> sigma_1234: they're both showing up as master in bios
[18:55] <dennister> and they're the only optical drives in both pc's
[18:55] <sigma_1234> are they on different ide cables?
[18:55] <dennister> sigma_1234: they're on different pc's completely, so yes, different ide cables
[18:56] <venik> Why does the sound disappear?  Pidgin fails to notify me when others log in, etc., because the sound stopped working.  The only way I know to revive it is to reboot-- just like in WINDOWS... ;-(
[18:56] <dennister> remember: i just plopped the hard drive from slow pc into a faster one...hence the probs
[18:56] <dennister> it does work lots of times, actually...could never do that with winblows :)
[18:56] <sigma_1234> you need a new drive
[18:57]  * dwidmann is getting very frustrated with grub
[18:57] <dennister> sigma_1234: the drive i switched from slow pc to faster one had a great deal of work done on it, so i didn't want to duplicate all those days and days of work
[18:57] <sigma_1234> !grub
[18:58] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[18:58] <dennister> i have quite a few drives now, actually
[18:58] <dwidmann> "Grub error 16 Inconsistent Filesystem structure"
[18:59] <blue_> im trying to build a cpp file with gcc, "gcc main.cpp" returns "undefined reference to main"
[18:59] <dwidmann> blue_: use g++
[18:59] <noodles12> is there another way to restart your wireless card besides "ifconfig eth0 up/down or ifup/down"?
[18:59] <blue_> dwidmann: same thing mate
[19:00]  * dwidmann draws a blank
[19:00] <blue_> yeah its weird
[19:01] <stdin> blue_: have you defined main() ?
[19:01] <blue_> i instaeed CDT for eclipse, wanting to do come C++ code, but when i build from eclipse i get "no rule to make all"
[19:01] <blue_> stdin: yeah my program is "int main() {return0;}
[19:02] <stdin> blue_: "return 0;" not "return0"
[19:02] <blue_> yeah sorry typo
[19:02] <stdin> post the whole main.cpp to pastebin and I'll have a look for anything suspicious
[19:04] <blue_> http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/966349
[19:05] <stdin> blue_: hmm, odd. have you installed "build-essential" ?
[19:05] <blue_> il try an install it now
[19:06] <blue_> yeah i had it installed
[19:07] <stdin> well, your program compiles here. not sure what's up
[19:07] <blue_> ah well ty for trying it :D least i know im not goin crazy!
[19:07] <blue_> what you use to compile it?
[19:08] <stdin> blue_: g++ and gcc, both work
[19:08] <venik> any ideas why my sounds disappear in Pidgin?
[19:08] <blue_> /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.1.3/../../../../lib/crt1.o: In function `_start':(.text+0x18): undefined reference to `main'
[19:08] <blue_> thats the exact error i get
[19:09] <stdin> blue_: check the file, the only way I get that error is when I don't define the main() function
[19:09] <stdin> like "touch foo.cpp; gcc foo.cpp"
[19:10] <blue_> stdin: you were right the file was empty, eclipse was lying to me :S
[19:11] <lingard> when i change owner of a folder and the permission then click ok it seems to be fine but when i go back nothing has changed, what do i do?
[19:11] <stdin> blue_: always help to check the simple reasons before the complicated ones :)
[19:12] <blue_> :D
[19:12] <blue_> stdin: thanks man, now i wonder why eclipse isnt writing to the files :S
[19:14] <stdin> blue_: I've never used eclipse, I usually program in nano or kate, and kdevelop for larger projects
[19:16] <blue_> stdin: as soon as i include iostream i get errors again
[19:16] <stdin> blue_: care to take this to #kubuntu-offtopic ?
[19:16] <blue_> stdin: kl
[19:18] <jessica_> is there a key shortcut to get the terminal box up
[19:18] <cuznt> i know you can place it on your task bar
[19:18] <cuznt> as a quick lin,
[19:18] <cuznt> link rather
[19:19] <jessica_> i need a key shortcut if possable
[19:19] <venik> hmmm... I guess if I want to use Kubuntu I cannot have sounds with it.. ;-(
[19:20] <cuznt> try <alt> + <f2>
[19:20] <cuznt> then type in konsole
[19:21] <cuznt> !audio
[19:21] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[19:21] <jessica_> ok thanks
[19:21] <venik> It is checked
[19:21] <stdin> jessica_: you can set a shortcut in System Settings > Keyboard & Mouse -> Keyboard Shortcuts -> Application Shortcuts
[19:21] <jessica_> ok thanks
[19:21] <venik> the sounds used to work, then died
[19:21] <cuznt> maybe the drivers did not load
[19:22] <cuznt> both of those helps work
[19:22] <cuznt> i used them
[19:22] <jessica_> hold on ware do i find system settings
[19:22] <jessica_> i have system and settings
[19:22] <jessica_> there seporate
[19:22] <jessica_> ooooooo found it
[19:22] <jessica_> sorry i feel so dumb
[19:22] <TimS> I have a flv video I want to convert to a MP4, how can I do this?
[19:22] <cuznt> dont
[19:22]  * cuznt is quite dumb @ times
[19:23] <cuznt> ;)
[19:23] <JasonWard> Hi. I am thinking of trying out XFce. but I don't want to remove KDE. I want to be able to switch between the two without too much hassle
[19:24] <stdin> JasonWard: just install the xubuntu-desktop pacakge or the xfce package, it won't remove KDE and you can choose which to login to from KDM
[19:24] <genii> stdin: Beat me to it :)
[19:25] <blue_> samw
[19:25] <dwidmann> me too
[19:25] <blue_> same*
[19:25] <JasonWard> so, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[19:25] <JasonWard> will do it all for me
[19:25] <dwidmann> sure
[19:25] <blue_> JasonWard: i have KDE, Gnome and Xfce on mine atm
[19:25] <jessica_> how can i make a key shortcut for xkill i only know how to get to that using alt + F2 > xkill
[19:25] <dwidmann> might change your usplash image and it'll probably ask you which display manager you want to use
[19:25] <stdin> jessica_: ctrl-alt-esc
[19:26] <jessica_> oo ok thanks
[19:26] <genii> !helpersnack | stdin
[19:26] <ubotu> stdin: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[19:26] <stdin> :)
[19:26] <dwidmann> Never saw that one before
[19:26] <genii> stdin: I'll just be support crew :)
[19:26] <JasonWard> thanks  guys
[19:26] <dennister> ok, the kde installation in my fileserver is missing a few key system settings (kcontrol --> system administration) modules that I've come pretty dependent on
[19:26] <rysiek|pl> guys, where do I change KDM theme?
[19:27] <rysiek|pl> I tried using the kdm theme manager but it just disabled the themes alltogether
[19:27] <dennister> how do i install, say, Disks & Filesystems?
[19:27] <rysiek|pl> I am fighting with this bugger (which used to take 2mins in 6.10) for 2hrs now and am getting quite seriously frustrated
[19:28] <Thingus> What's a good text-to-speech app for KDE?
[19:28] <Thingus> KSayIt?
[19:28] <lingard> when i change owner of a folder and the permission then click ok it seems to be fine but when i go back nothing has changed, what do i do?
[19:29] <dennister> <-------still trying to get the cdrom working :(
[19:29] <nyko> where is xorg.conf ?
[19:30] <stdin> rysiek|pl: have you seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu ?
[19:30] <stdin> nyko: /etc/X11/
[19:30] <rysiek|pl> yes
[19:30] <nyko> stdin: thanks
[19:30] <rysiek|pl> stdin: tried using the theme manager but I landed without any theme at all
[19:30] <stdin> dennister: why not use system settings?
[19:30] <rysiek|pl> stdin: seems something is seriously b0rked
[19:30] <jessica_> if my graphics are running but your in command line how would you get back to the GUI
[19:30] <rysiek|pl> stdin: so my question is: how to do it manually? in what file?
[19:30] <dennister> i still think my fstab entry for it is wrong, but i need to know which device to use in fstab
[19:30] <stdin> ryanakca: hmm, I haven't bothered changing the theme if KDM in ages, I don't see it often enough
[19:31] <dennister> stdin: i don't have that module in my kcontrol :(
[19:31] <JasonWard> does xfce run KDE and GNOME apps? will everything be the same but it will just look different
[19:31] <jessica_> for example i think if you press ctrl + alt + F1 it will take you to your command line yet your GUI is still running so you canrt use start x
[19:31] <stdin> rysiek|pl: I think it's in /etc/kde3/kdm/
[19:31] <stdin> dennister: do you have "kubuntu-desktop" installed ?
[19:31] <rysiek|pl> yeah, but I have a bunch of files there
[19:32] <rysiek|pl> stdin: well, back to try and error
[19:32] <stdin> JasonWard: yeah, all apps will run on all desktop environments
[19:32] <dennister> stdin: no, i don't...and wanted to try and avoid that huge metapackage, actually
[19:32] <rysiek|pl> stdin: but it's really fscking irritatind
[19:32] <dennister> lot of stuff i don't use, or want to use
[19:33] <genii> dennister: sudo apt-get install kde-systemsettings
[19:33] <nyko> how to open xorg.conf for editing it
[19:33] <stdin> nyko: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:34] <jessica_> how do i restart my graphics
[19:34] <dennister> genii: i thought i had that installed already, and now terminal confirms it
[19:34] <blue_> jessica_: ctrl-alt-bkspce
[19:34] <dennister> there are simply some modules missing, like "Disks & Filesystems" under the advanced tab
[19:34] <jessica_> that brings your to kdm dosnt it ?
[19:34]  * genii sips a coffee and cogitates
[19:35] <blue_> it restarts the x server, you have to log in again
[19:35] <dennister> and i'd really like to solve this friggin cd problem b4 the day is over
[19:35] <jessica_> it ends all software and tasks
[19:35] <blue_> yeah
[19:35] <jessica_> surly there is a way just to restart yoru graphics
[19:36] <josema> hola
[19:37] <josema> alguien puede decirme como ver una particion de windows en kubuntu, me dice: permisos denegados al intentar montarla
[19:37] <jessica_> isnt there a file that restarts them in /etc/init.d/
[19:37] <stdin> jessica_: running that will log you out anyway, you can just logout and press Ctrl-E
[19:37] <genii> dennister: The Disks and Filesystems is a prog called mountconfig but thats within the metapackage of kde-guidance
[19:37] <stdin> !es | josema
[19:37] <josema> alguien puede ayudarme???
[19:37] <jessica_> what dose ctrl + E do ?
[19:38] <dennister> ok...simple cdrom problem...you would think...fstab is incorrect...dmesg tells me there are 2 cdroms, correctly identifies them, but I removed one
[19:38] <stdin> jessica_: restart KDM/X
[19:38] <dennister> genii: ty, ty, ty
[19:38] <nyko> stdin:  i have problem whit my g5 mouse logitech when i use it like 10 min she come off and i  can't use it anymore i have to logout and return in
[19:40] <stdin> nyko: I've never used a g5 mouse, so I don't know
[19:40] <dwidmann> Whoo hoo!! I figured out one piece of the puzzle to my desktop booting issues!
[19:41] <nyko> stdin:  lol its what im thinking no one have use and actualy have this problem
[19:41] <dwidmann> Seems this motherboard requires the partition with the bootloader to be a primary partition with the boot flag .... my old board spoiled me I guess.
[19:42]  * lombra voltou.
[19:45]  * milian_ is back.
[19:45] <dennister> k, rebooting now to see if changes to apache, ports, and fstab work and survive
[19:46]  * genii puts on another pot of coffee
[19:46] <dennister> <-------is already suffering from the most severe caffeine high
[19:47] <dennister> i don't usually get them...drink it all day
[19:47] <genii> dennister: I've had the flu for a week now and drinking less coffee than usual. So my tolerance went down
[19:48] <dennister> o dear :(
[19:48] <ncv`Leviathan> All right, quick question for you guys, been searching and failing to find what I'm looking for. I'm running Ubuntu on MS VPC 2007, and for some reason the cpu NICE cycles aren't registering properly.
[19:48] <dennister> i guess that's one of the bright sides to being a hermit----->very few germs & viruses from other ppl
[19:51] <john__>   
[19:54] <dennister> ok, this is very annoying: in fstab, what is the proper 'type' for a cd/dvdrom? In my working system here it's set to 'auto' but the fileserver's complaining about 'auto'
[19:54] <dennister> udf8/iso...9600?
[19:55] <rickest> dennister: usually iso9660
[19:55] <genii> eg: /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec 0       0
[19:55] <genii> or so
[19:55] <rickest> or that
[19:55] <dennister> k, will try
[19:55] <nyko> someone know why my mouse turn off after a while using kubuntu
[19:56] <xchiamiov> usb, wireless?
[19:56] <nyko> no usb wire
[19:56] <nyko> g5 logitech
[19:57] <leviathan> And, to answer my own question earlier the idle=poll I used for my laptop originally creating this install was the  problem.
[19:57] <xchiamiov> turn off, as in it no longer functions?
[19:57] <nyko> no but he have light
[19:57] <nyko> but nothing move i have to use my ps2 wireless
[19:57] <lukas_> hello, i have installed the pstricks-package (http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/texlive-pstricks) but pst-dbicons has not been installed. what can i do?
[19:59] <JasonWard> Hi. I just did. sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop  but its a 100MB download. is this with packages as well? isn't there a way to just install xfcs? or is it necessary to get all this?
[19:59] <xchiamiov> nyko: sorry, I don't know
[19:59] <nyko> ok
[19:59] <nyko> lol
[19:59] <lukas_> i am using feisty but gutsy and hardy only support pst-dbicons. what should i do? do i have to upgrade to hardy?
[19:59] <nyko> im jsut get bored to have this aswer etch time XD
[20:00] <Odd-rationale> JasonWard: Yes you can just install xfce.
[20:01] <JasonWard> what difference will there be?
[20:01] <dwidmann> This if my first intel board, got it open box and it came without docs, does anybody know if there's a sort of "boot menu" so I can circument having to go into BIOS and changing the boot order everytime I want to change it?
[20:02] <Odd-rationale> JasonWard: You can "sudo apt-get install xfce4"
[20:02] <genii> dwidmann: On some of them f10 is a boot menu
[20:02] <JasonWard> Odd-rationale: thanks, but what difference is there to that and xubuntu-desktop?
[20:02] <dwidmann> thanks genii, will try
[20:03] <Darkrift2> dwidmann, some also use escape (when its not used to get into bios)
[20:03] <dwidmann> genii, Darkrift, - thanks guys .... f10 did the trick
[20:03] <Odd-rationale> JasonWard: The diff would be that xubuntu-desktop will be like a xubuntu install. just xfce4 will give you just the desktop environment.
[20:04] <genii> dwidmann: np
[20:04] <lukas_> is it possible to update a single package to hardy and let the rest of the system be feisty?
[20:04] <DarkriftX> lol
[20:04] <DarkriftX> trying to make a heisty distro eh
[20:06] <lukas_> DarkriftX, as mentioned above, i just need pst-dbicons (latex package) but feisty doesnt use this. so is the only way to update the whole system?
[20:06] <Odd-rationale> lukas_: yes. it is. go to http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/ and manually download the package you want
[20:06] <dwidmann> Now all I have to do is get past my grub error 17 (will probably just backup my /var/cache/apt;/archives and reinstall), resintall, and I'll be set (found out he hard way over hte past couple days how picky a motherboard can be about having the boot partition be a primary partition with the boot flag on ..... guess my other boards spoiled me)
[20:06] <lukas_> Odd-rationale: and then dpkg -I the package?
[20:06] <DarkriftX> yes
[20:06] <robert__> Is anyone able to browse the local smb workgroup using dolphin/konqueror ind hardy beta? i tried for 2 days now with no success ( smb4k is working perfect )
[20:06] <DarkriftX> -i
[20:06] <Odd-rationale> lukas_: dpkg -i
[20:06] <JasonWard> ok I just stopped my download with cntrl+z. will it automatically clean out the files?
[20:07] <lukas_> many thx DarkriftX, Odd-rationale
[20:07] <Odd-rationale> lukas_: or double cilck
[20:07] <DarkriftX> heh, double click.... i almost forget that gui works in linux except for browsing
[20:07] <lukas_> ah right, i am just not used to graphical installations ;)
[20:07] <dwidmann> robert__: jump straight to smb:/hostname and it'll work okay, if you just type in something like smb:/ and expect it to list all workgroups though it will crash
[20:07] <Odd-rationale> lukas_: Although in another 23 days it would be best to upgrade.
[20:08] <lukas_> Odd-rationale: why 23 days? because of the release?
[20:08] <robert__> well i lists my workgroup but i'm not able to browse it
[20:08] <robert__> i = it
[20:08] <Odd-rationale> lukas_: yes. 8.04
[20:08] <robert__> is this a known bug dwidmann ?
[20:08] <DarkriftX> does anyone know how to change the "resize zone" ? i have to play around for sometimes 15 seconds to get the cursor in the proper spot to be able to resize a window :(
[20:08] <dwidmann> robert__: better than it behaves for me ... it just crashes when I try to list workgroups .......
[20:09] <dwidmann> robert__: I don't know, I just found it out yesterday or the day before when I tried to do it
[20:09] <JasonWard> if I stop a sudo apt-get install with control+z . what happens? does it delete the files it stopped downloading?
[20:09] <jareth> hey, is there anything like buddy pounces for Kopete? i just switched from pidgin to kopete :)
[20:09] <Odd-rationale> JasonWard: no
[20:09] <DarkriftX> JasonWard probablynot, i thnk they stay in the temp folders
[20:09] <jareth> Jasonward: watch when you do this, youll have to do a killall apt-get to redo it later :)
[20:10] <JasonWard> whats a killall?
[20:10] <jareth> killall kills instances of a command, for instance when you CTRL+Z that process
[20:10] <sourcemaker> have installed the kubuntu gusty beta.... now I receive the information... that there are 89 kde related upates? Why are there so many changes to kde? I did'nt know... that there is a new revision available?
[20:10] <jareth> it leaves the lock folder locked
[20:10] <jareth> not allowing you to run any package managers
[20:10] <jareth> so you need to killall apt-get
[20:10] <Odd-rationale> sourcemaker: gutsy beta? or hardy beta?
[20:11] <dwidmann> Odd-rationale: gutsy beta sounds old
[20:11] <sourcemaker> Odd-rationale: hardy... sorry
[20:11] <MF-Debian> JasonWard: they go in /var/cache/apt/archives/partial
[20:11] <JasonWard> sudo killall apt-get?
[20:11] <jareth> ya
[20:11] <jareth> run that quick to kill your apt-get
[20:11] <Odd-rationale> sourcemaker: just install the updates.
[20:12] <JasonWard> ok. I just decided I want to resume that download. so if I just tell it to install like normal will it resume?
[20:12] <MF-Debian> yes
[20:12] <sourcemaker> Odd-rationale: I already doing... but I do not unterstand this... why are there updates?
[20:13] <Odd-rationale> JasonWard: yes
[20:13] <Odd-rationale> sourcemaker: dunno :?
[20:13] <MF-Debian> i cant decide if i like kde4 or not
[20:13] <JasonWard> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[20:13] <JasonWard> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[20:13] <Odd-rationale> MF-Debian: of course
[20:13] <JasonWard> what now?
[20:13] <Odd-rationale> MF-Debian: I con't either...
[20:14] <Odd-rationale> JasonWard: are all other apt-gets adept aptitude closed?
[20:14] <JasonWard> yup
[20:14] <chanchan36> french
[20:15] <Odd-rationale> !fr
[20:15] <JasonWard> if I was to logout now would it still allow me to resume that download?
[20:15] <Odd-rationale> no bots?
[20:15] <MF-Debian> JasonWard: yes
[20:15] <Odd-rationale> chanchan36: /join #kubuntu-fr or ubuntu-fr
[20:17] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[20:17] <JasonWard> I logged out and it still says that it is being used by another program
[20:17] <Odd-rationale> JasonWard: did you sudo killall apt ?
[20:18] <JasonWard> I did now. thanks. its working like a charm :)
[20:21] <Odd-rationale> Wasn't kubuntu.org going to get a new web design? I remeber there was a competition for user to submit their mockup. Does anyone know which one won and how it will look like?
[20:26] <rickest> does anyone know mechanism is used such that when you enter a command that isn't installed, bash (presumably?) responds with 'install such-n-such to get that program'.  I like it and just wonder how it works
[20:27] <DarkriftX> rickest i have that.... forgot what its called
[20:28] <trappist> rickest: command-not-found is the package name - look in /etc/bash.bashrc, at the bottom
[20:29] <DarkriftX> ahhh, there we go
[20:30] <DarkriftX> oooh, i re-read yhour question. if you want to know how it works, my guess is that it has a database of executable names and it just looks in there when you try to run a program that isnt found
[20:32] <rickest> trappist: thanks, will check it out
[20:34] <trappist> rickest: the data's in a series of repo-specific databases.  dpkg -L command-not-found-data | grep db for a list.
[20:36] <jareth> ummm
[20:36] <jareth> how come when i just opened a terminal
[20:36] <jareth> my background changed to a unicorn?? lol
[20:37] <rickest> trappist: very nice, I've always liked that functionality and just wanted to see how they did it. thanks
[20:37] <rickest> jareth: lol, a baby kitten was just born
[20:37] <jareth> this is my first time on KDE :P
[20:37] <trappist> jareth: you must be running hardy
[20:37] <jareth> ive been on gnome for like 2 years >>
[20:37] <jareth> ya
[20:37] <trappist> jareth: april fool's joke, I think
[20:37] <jareth> o lol
[20:37] <jareth> everytime i run a terminal this will happen? lol
[20:38] <trappist> jareth: I dunno, it only happened to me when I logged into kde
[20:38] <jareth> lol
[20:38] <jareth> i guess i like unicorns today :)
[20:39] <trappist> yeah the guys around here had a lot of fun at my expense when they saw how much I liked them.
[20:42] <sinak> hello. when I boot kubuntu my monitos goes to power saving mode
[20:43] <sinak> the hard drive seems to work
[20:44] <sinak> It might an acpi problem
[20:44] <sinak> any clues??
[20:45] <eddieftw> hello, why is there a unicorn on my computer?
[20:45] <genii> sinak: Are you able to do ctrl-alt-f1 to obtain a terminal on the monitor?
[20:45] <sinak> i have try it
[20:45] <Odd-rationale> eddieftw: you ustin hardy? 4-1 joke I beleive
[20:45] <eddieftw> i am scared of unicorns, pleease remove it!
[20:45] <sinak> but it doesn't help
[20:46] <sinak> (sorry for my bad english :-p )
[20:46] <eddieftw> i had a bad experience at the zoo, i just want my computer back
[20:46] <genii> sinak: If your video card has another plug for monitor, see if video is switching to there after the boot.
[20:47]  * Jucato looks for a bat (the animal kind) and whacks eddieftw with it
[20:47] <eddieftw> oh man Jucato is in here. i was hoping nobody would catch on :(
[20:47] <sinak> genii I'm using a kvm switch
[20:48] <eddieftw> is there anyway to keep that unicorn. i think it looks awesome
[20:48] <Jucato> copy/save the image
[20:49] <eddieftw> umm how abotu some help?
[20:49] <eddieftw> where is the file located and how do i make that permanent?
[20:50] <Jucato> /usr/share/wallpapers/
[20:50] <genii> sinak: The kvm may be part of the problem. When not using it does same issue persist?
[20:50] <sinak> I 'll try it right now
 i am scared of unicorns, pleease remove it!
[20:51] <Darkrift2> eddieftw> is there anyway to keep that unicorn. i think it looks awesome
[20:51] <jareth> lol
[20:51] <Darkrift2> wow, what a change of heart in 3 minutes
[20:51] <eddieftw> yea i was just messing around
[20:51] <jareth> i just found its
[20:51] <jareth> it*
[20:52] <jareth> its called kubuntu-wallpaper.jpg
[20:52] <jareth> inside the usr share wallpapers dir
[20:52] <jessica_> ive noticed when i run transmission on kubuntu in my system try the icon has white around it and its noticable
[20:52] <jareth> quite funny . . lol
[20:52] <jessica_> its really anoying
[20:54] <sinak> genii it didn't solve the prob
[20:55] <pepenauta> hola a todos
[20:55] <sinak> i think tha its a resolution problem
[20:55] <sinak> *that
[20:55] <pepenauta> recien instalo ubuntu y puedo conectar al repositorio de paquetes y al irc
[20:55] <sinak> the problem begins after grub
[20:56] <Jucato> !es | pepenauta
[20:56] <ubotu> pepenauta: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[20:56] <genii> sinak: If you can obtain a terminal with ctrl-alt-f1    it may be a resolution problem. If you cannot obtain a terminal, the video is likely going to another plug and not the one the monitor is on
[20:56] <pepenauta> ok
[20:56] <sinak> how can i configure this genii ?
[20:57] <sinak> is it a bios option?
[20:57] <genii> sinak: You still have not said if by ctrl-alt-f1 you can get a text terminal on the same screen
[20:58] <sinak> ctrl alt f1 does nothing
[20:58] <Florentino> Hey everyone. I'm new to Linux and a few days a go i finish reading Unix (Visual Guide) and Intro to Linux from the LDP. In other words, I know the basic commands. So where do i go from here?
[20:59] <sinak> but ctrl alt del does reboot
[20:59] <Florentino> any advice would be welcome!
[20:59] <genii> sinak: Then try plugging the monitor into what other video plugs your card or computer has.
[21:00] <sinak> genii my video card has a dvi but I don't have cable for it
[21:00] <sinak> only vga to vga
[21:01] <sinak> mm.. I might have a converter
[21:01] <PhilRod> Florentino: well, just depends on how you prefer to do things - if you'd rather just Get Things Done(TM) and learn what you need when you need it, then just carry on with your everyday work :-)
[21:02] <Darkrift2> Florentino, find a distro you like, install it and use it :)
[21:03] <Darkrift2> and laugh every day at the fact that you cannot get a virus/bsod/girlfriend now
[21:03] <PhilRod> if you're interested in learning some theory just for the sake of it, one thing you could try would be shell scripting. But personally I find it hard to work through tutorials unless I have something particular to work on
[21:03] <PhilRod> Darkrift2: LOL!
[21:03] <Florentino> :>) LOL
[21:03] <Darkrift2> who needs females anyways, I have wobbly windows :)
[21:05] <Florentino> Thanks for the advice! I guess I'm having problems moving on to new things because i primarily use my PC for internet access
[21:05] <Darkrift2> Florentino, install firefox and your set
[21:05] <Darkrift2> nothing else needed
[21:05] <jussi01> someone remind me how to check filesize from command line?
[21:06] <Darkrift2> ls -l filename
[21:06] <Darkrift2> will work
[21:06] <PhilRod> Florentino: if you're interested in just learning, a nice way to do it is to join an open source project that you like
[21:06] <sinak> genii I used dvi but I didn't work :-(
[21:06] <sinak> *it
[21:07] <sinak> Is it possible to be an acpi problem?
[21:07] <PhilRod> jussi01: or "ls -lh" if you prefer "human-readable" filesizes (or "du -sh directoryname" if you want the size of a directory)
[21:07] <Florentino> I was thinking about joining a project but I'm not sure how would I be contributing ( no programing knowledge)
[21:08] <genii> sinak: Conceivable. But usually the simplest problem is the answer. Like wrong output, etc
[21:08] <Florentino> anyway...i think you guys are right. I'm going to stick to user related issues and see where i go from there
[21:08] <Florentino> again, thanks for the advice!
[21:08] <PhilRod> Florentino: cool, that's reasonable - when you find something that interests you, you can go from there :-)
[21:09] <sinak> genii: other OS's I have installed, work fine
[21:09] <PhilRod> (although there are lots and lots of ways to help with open source without programming - documentation, user support, bug triage, artwork, translation, promotion...)
[21:09] <sinak> only with kubuntu I had problem
[21:10] <blaisepascal> Does anyone know how I can get my hands on libqt4-plugin-odbc?  It appears to have been built from qt4-x11-4.3.4-0ubuntu1 but wasn't built from qt4-x11-4.3.4-0ubuntu2.
[21:10] <genii> sinak: You were able to run the livecd of kubuntu without issue?
[21:10] <sinak> yes no problem
[21:11] <stdin> blaisepascal: it wasn't built because it's broken
[21:11] <genii> sinak: What is the video card?
[21:11] <sinak> nvidia 8500 gt
[21:12] <blaisepascal> stdin:  That sucks.  What was wrong with it?
[21:12] <stdin> blaisepascal: it won't build for a start
[21:12] <stdin> I've tried patch after patch but it just fails. so after several months I give up
[21:12] <blaisepascal> stdin:  Any idea how I can get support for QODBC then?
[21:13] <stdin> blaisepascal: are you on x86 or amd64?
[21:13] <blaisepascal> x86.
[21:13] <stdin> you should be able to build it yourself then
[21:14] <blaisepascal> ...after grabbing the Qt source, right?
[21:14] <stdin> blaisepascal: yeah
[21:15] <blaisepascal> OK, I'll give that a try tonight.
[21:16] <IkeKrull> anyone else find the kde control center administrator mode stops working?
[21:16] <IkeKrull> on hardy
[21:16] <stdin> blaisepascal: http://doc.trolltech.com/4.3/sql-driver.html#how-to-build-the-odbc-plugin-on-unix-and-mac-os-x
[21:17] <dennister> genii: I'm still not having any success with the cdrom/fstab issue, and I think i've tried every possible combination by now, of options, types, devices...i'm not getting any dmesg|tail error anymore, but symptoms are still the same...can't mount it manually or through fstab at boot
[21:18] <dennister> on the apache side of things, rebooting the first time ater the fix meant apache won't load anymore...as i was afraid it would do after i rebooted...so improvement wasn't permanent
[21:18] <blaisepascal> stdin: Yeah, I've looked at it before.  I was having problems with odbc using Qt 4.4, and I was thinking of downgrading in hopes that would solve the problem.  I was hoping it was prepackaged.
[21:18] <dennister> now i've been at this for a solid 7 hours, without as much as a meal, so I'm gonna take a NAP!
[21:19] <dennister> lol...can ya tell i'm frustrated?
[21:19] <alan_m> brb showah!!!!
[21:21] <dennister> see yas in 2-3 hours...maybe i'll be fresher then, can take another stab at solving these issues
[21:26] <genii> work, away a while
[21:26] <Jucato> !away > genii
[21:26]  * Jucato runs away
[21:29] <jast-mxm> after a fresh install Ark can't open zip files or rar files, what do i need to download
[21:29] <pyro_17> winrar?
[21:30] <zzillezz> lol
[21:30] <jast-mxm> hah
[21:31] <jast-mxm> well unrar won't do it
[21:31] <pyro_17> but seriously, prolly like 7zip
[21:31] <jast-mxm> no, its just a regular zip
[21:31] <jast-mxm> i am using kde4 but not getting any response from them
[21:31] <pyro_17> !zip
[21:31] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[21:31] <pyro_17> arc aparently
[21:31] <pyro_17> ark*
[21:34] <pyro_17> jast-mxm does it give you an error?
[21:35] <genii> Jucato: Hah, sic the bots on me then run away....
[21:37] <rumbaroy> hello! anybody here got any experience with smart package manager?
[21:40] <JasonWard> Hi. How do I play mp4 files?
[21:40] <jpatrick> !mp3
[21:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[21:40] <rumbaroy> you simply install vlc player
[21:41] <JasonWard> I have that but even that won't play this file
[21:41] <JasonWard> it plays on windows
[21:42] <rumbaroy> try the command sudo apt-get ubuntu restricted or something like that. you might want to google it first
[21:42] <mallize> how do i change the command line editor to VI in bash?
[21:42] <JasonWard> rumbaroy: thanls
[21:42]  * mallize feels dumb for asking
[21:43] <jessica_> dont feel dumb for asking anything
[21:45] <Odd-rationale> mallize: you want to use vi instaed of vim?
[21:45] <genii> mallize: sudo update-alternatives --config editor
[21:45] <mallize> thanks
[21:45] <andregyn> hi
[21:45] <genii> Choose whichever one you prefer
[21:46] <genii> mallize: np
[21:46] <andregyn> alguem do brasil
[21:46] <rumbaroy> when i try to open the smart package manager, i get: "configuration is in readonly mode". how do I change the configs? help a noob in need! :)
[21:47] <Jucato> !br | andregyn
[21:47] <ubotu> andregyn: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[21:47] <wad> The CRT on the docking station on my laptop powers itself down after a few minutes of inactivity. I'm trying to figure out how to prevent it from doing so. I've checked the "power saving" settings, and it is disabled. Any ideas where else to look?
[21:47] <Jucato> rumbaroy: you probably need to run it with sudo (if it's a command line program) or kdesu (if it's a GUI)
[21:47] <andregyn> tanks
[21:47] <genii> wad: Comment out DPMS line in xorg.conf
[21:47] <wad> genii: Thanks!
[21:48] <juan_> Anyone know why my kubuntu 8.04 beta KDE4 now has a fuzzy pink ribbon around some things??  screenshot http://67.207.142.131/media/snapshot1.png
[21:48] <zzillezz> yes juan_
[21:48] <zzillezz> it's april fools day ...
[21:48] <Jucato> :D
[21:48] <mado> hello guys ...
[21:48] <juan_> seriously? no way
[21:48] <wad> genii: I don't seem to have any such line in my xorg.confg.... ?
[21:49] <zzillezz> i asked the same question in the kde4 channel :-)
[21:49] <juan_> is it going away tomorrow?
[21:49] <zzillezz> i hope so ...
[21:49] <zzillezz> :-)
[21:49] <zzillezz> when the next updates arrive
[21:50] <genii> wad: It will be a line like:         Option          "DPMS"                  under Section "Monitor"
[21:50] <juan_> when will that be?  I just want to get rid of the pink stuff asap
[21:50] <emilsedgh> Jucato: http://wgess16.dyndns.org/~tobias/misc/akonadi_crash.png
[21:50]  * wad checks it again
[21:50] <emilsedgh> i will die because of these jokes!
[21:50] <Jucato> :D
[21:50] <Jucato> can't wait for 04/02
[21:50] <rumbaroy> thanks, jucato
[21:51] <wad> genii: Nope, 100% certain it is not there.
[21:51] <genii> I wonder if the next update will fix the unicorn/pink fuzzy ribbon thing
[21:51] <emilsedgh> Jucato: (image came as broken for me in that blog entry, so i read whole text and i believed it =)
[21:51] <Jucato> lol
[21:51] <jessica_> i need some software that will extract data out of iso files
[21:51] <Jucato> !iso | jessica_
[21:51] <ubotu> jessica_: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[21:52] <emilsedgh> jessica_: oyu just need to mount the iso i think
[21:52] <mado> oy guys ... can you help me? ... my soundcard isn't working ... -> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
[21:52] <jessica_> ok thanks
[21:52] <Jucato> jessica_: just mount it and you can browse it like a normal directory
[21:52] <wad> mado: Look in /etc/group and make sure your user is a member of the audio group.
[21:52] <wad> mado: I discovered this myself yesterday.
[21:52] <genii> wad: OK.
[21:52] <sculework> kiso is good for that
[21:52] <sculework> ISO thing
[21:54] <mado> hmmm wad ... here is something -> it says "audio:x:29:mario"
[21:54] <sculework> just say groups at a shell will show them
[21:55] <wad> mado: So, I assume your username is "mario"?
[21:55] <mado> yeah :)
[21:55] <mado> wad, ... i think the problem is another thing ... i think i need to install something ... but i am not sure ... i'm a beginner
[21:55] <wad> mado: I only know a tiny bit, from trying to get sound working on one of my computers.
[21:56] <wad> mado: There are experts around, but from what I understand, ALSA is your friend.
[21:56] <mado> well ... i found a homepage which describes something ...
[21:56] <mado> http://linuxtechie.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/getting-intel-ich8-family-rev-3-sound-card-to-work-in-gutsy/
[21:56] <wad> You want to enable the sound system,
[21:56] <mado> but i have rev02
[21:56] <wad> and select Advanced Linux Sound Architecture.
[21:57] <mado> alsa ... i have heard that before
[21:57] <wad> This is done under the System Settings.
[21:57]  * wad nods
[21:58] <mado> wait a sec please
[22:02] <pyro_17> is there a place for me to put xset -b so that it runs everytime i boot, so it is permenent
[22:02] <mado> wad, ... look at that ...
[22:02] <mado> http://linuxtechie.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/getting-intel-ich8-family-rev-3-sound-card-to-work-in-gutsy/
[22:02]  * wad clicks
[22:02] <mado> it says that i should "sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-generic"
[22:03] <mado> and one commentator showed that it would also work for "rev 02" ... should i give it a try?
[22:03] <MrBarrett> is a .elf file like a .exe. on kubuntu?
[22:04] <MrBarrett> i downloaded a linux mp3 player but i dont know how to install??
[22:04] <mado> MrBarrett, ... i don't know much about linux or kubuntu but i don't think so ... but wait and hear what others say
[22:05] <MrBarrett> <-- newbie to kubuntu
[22:05] <mado> MrBarrett, ... me too :)
[22:06] <Jucato> ELF
[22:06] <mado> so wad ... what do you think?
[22:06] <MrBarrett> kubuntu is on a 2nd puter with no internet connection
[22:06] <mado> could it be that easy?
[22:06] <mado> or is this a joke?
[22:07] <blekos> hi, i made an installation from a .pl file, how can i remove it (the program was vmware-server)
[22:07] <mado> or should i look for another way because installing linux-backports-modules-generic was a bad idea?
[22:08] <MrBarrett> anyone?
[22:08] <sculework> well whay are you instlling a different mp3 player? Can't you get mp3 playback?
[22:08] <sculework> MrBarrett: ^
[22:09] <mado> MrBarrett, ... i looked for "elf"-files ... and it says it isn't like an "exe"-file
[22:09] <sculework> 'file some.elf' will tell you what it is
[22:09] <mado> so guys ... i have to restart now
[22:09] <MrBarrett> amarok needs decoders
[22:09] <mado> see you soon
[22:10] <sculework> executable linux format so it is some sort of executable
[22:10] <sculework> !mp3 | MrBarrett
[22:10] <ubotu> MrBarrett: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[22:10] <sculework> MrBarrett: you want the first one really
[22:10] <MrBarrett> i know but how do i get it from the connected computer to the kubuntu computer?
[22:11] <sculework> i assume the kubuntu computer isn't on line(?)
[22:11] <MrBarrett> i have a 1gb thum drive?
[22:11] <dwidmann> Whatsay I skip the network config in the installer, how would I configure it after-the-fact?
[22:11] <MrBarrett> kubuntu is currently dtandalone
[22:11] <MrBarrett> *standalone
[22:12] <MrBarrett> no connection
[22:12] <MrBarrett> installed from the live CD not DVD
[22:12] <MrBarrett> kubuntu 7.1
[22:13] <dwidmann> MrBarrett: there was no kubuntu release in january, 2007 :P
[22:13] <MrBarrett> i am unable to play mp3s or mpegs
[22:13] <dwidmann> (ie: the trailing 0 *is* significant)
[22:14] <MrBarrett> trailing O?
[22:14] <stdin> it's 7.10, not 7.1
[22:14] <dwidmann> 7.10 is not 7.1
[22:14] <MrBarrett> sorry
[22:15] <MrBarrett> what about my music?
[22:15] <dwidmann> MrBarrett: install kubuntu-restricted-extras package and amarok should be able to prompt for mp3 support .....
[22:16] <MrBarrett> i have them but dont know how to install
[22:16] <MrBarrett> <--- newbie
[22:16] <dwidmann> MrBarrett: ie: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:16] <MrBarrett> to kubuntu
[22:16] <dwidmann> or you could do it in adept, that would work too
[22:16] <MrBarrett> kubuntu is NOT connected to internet
[22:17] <dwidmann> Um, ummm, ummmmmmmmmmmmm, let me see if I can remember what package amarok wants then
[22:17] <Jucato> libxine1-ffmpeg
[22:17] <dwidmann> ah yes, that's the one
[22:17] <Jucato> *and* its dependencies...
[22:17] <sculework> this is the problem
[22:18] <Jucato> http://pacakges.ubuntu.com for reference. download the package and the needed dependencies
[22:18] <Jucato> (of course from a computer with an internet connection)
[22:18] <sculework> I have seen a line to do that, I have forgotten, something about --print-urls or such
[22:18] <MrBarrett> remember i dont know how in install stuff on kubuntu!
[22:18] <sculework> and then grab them all
[22:18] <dwidmann> MrBarrett: installing packages in gnu/linux is a royal pain in the arse if you aren't connected to the internet .... packages aren't self contained, they have dependencies
[22:19] <Jucato> dwidmann: not necessarily true.. depends on the distro and the media which you used to install it from :)
[22:19] <ejortegau> hi
[22:19] <ejortegau> hm
[22:19] <MrBarrett> i am using a USB wireless on puter#1 but i cant get it to work on kubuntu??
[22:20] <Jucato> !aptoncd
[22:20] <ejortegau> is there a way to change the size of an extended partition w/o having to delete its internal logical partitions?
[22:20] <ubotu> APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
[22:20] <dwidmann> Jucato: okay, you're right, but with *this* distro it certainly is a pain, same goes for debian, mandrake, suse .......
[22:20] <Jucato> dwidmann: mandrake no longer exists :P
[22:20] <dwidmann> Jucato: ah yes, forgot about that, when I ran it it *was* mandrake
[22:20] <Jucato> and Mandriva comes with these codecs by default last I checked
[22:20] <dwidmann> Jucato: completely besides the point
[22:21] <dwidmann> Jucato: I'm rambling like the offtopic bum I am.
[22:21] <Jucato> :P
[22:22] <MrBarrett> can anyone sugest another kubuntu mp3 player that will work??
[22:22] <dwidmann> Jucato, stdin, do either of you know how to manually get the networking going if you skip its config during installation?
[22:22] <Jucato> dwidmann: Kubuntu's installed and running already? knetworkmanager
[22:22] <dwidmann> MrBarrett: there won't be any installed by default that will do mp3s, it's a legal thing.
[22:23] <dwidmann> Jucato: well, I just installed the barebones ("command line system") via the dvd
[22:23] <MrBarrett> <--- will pleed insainity
[22:23] <Jucato> dwidmann: ah hm.. that I don't know.. what kind of internet connection?
[22:23] <dwidmann> Jucato: just need to get to my router ....
[22:24] <luca> ciao a tutti
[22:24] <MrBarrett> !internet
[22:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about internet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:24] <pyro_17> MrBarrett is there some way you can just connect to the internet with ethernet even for a few minutes to get the necesary packages
[22:24] <MrBarrett> dont think so
[22:25] <MrBarrett> is it hard to manually configure my usb modem?
[22:25] <Odd-rationale> MrBarrett: You can dowload the packages from http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[22:25] <MrBarrett> on kubuntu? pyro
[22:25] <dwidmann> Jucato: I only skipped that part because it takes ~15 minutes to do the scan the mirrors section (as long as the rest of the install all together ...), but I've forgotten how to fix things afterwards
[22:26] <rico> just started using kubuntu, quick question, Im looking for a program to copy/rip .flv files of websites like myspace or imeem? Thx
[22:26] <arke> good evening. :)
[22:27] <arke> I must be blind - I'm not finding how to simply access a Windows share from Kubuntu in the help.
[22:27] <pyro_17> MrBarrett yes with kubuntu
[22:27] <pyro_17> MrBarrett thats the easiest way
[22:28] <MrBarrett> Odd is it the "sound" link after gus 7.10?
[22:29] <MrBarrett> on that site?
[22:29] <Odd-rationale> MrBarrett: what package are you looking for?
[22:29] <Jucato> Odd-rationale: mp3 support
[22:29] <MrBarrett> the decoders for amarok and kaffeing
[22:30] <MrBarrett> *kaffeine
[22:30]  * Jucato thinks it would be best to get internet working first though...
[22:30] <Odd-rationale> MrBarrett: are you using gutsy?
[22:30] <MrBarrett> 7.10
[22:30] <dwidmann> Jucato: nevermind, I finally remembered *a* way to do it
[22:30] <MrBarrett> live CD installed
[22:30] <pyro_17> but Jucato how will he chill to tunes while tying to get thigns working
[22:30] <dwidmann> Jucato: now all I need to do is figure out how to do it with dhcp instead of static
[22:30] <MrBarrett> with no internet connection to it
[22:30] <Jucato> pyro_17: he can hum :)
[22:31] <pyro_17> lol
[22:31] <Jucato> dwidmann: dhclient eth0 or something
[22:31] <Odd-rationale> MrBarrett: Are you running the livecd? Or have you installed it and running off your harddrive?
[22:31] <MrBarrett> installed
[22:31] <MrBarrett> part' HD
[22:31] <MrBarrett> duel sp system
[22:32] <MrBarrett> *xp
[22:32] <Odd-rationale> MrBarrett: well. here's what to do. It might be rather painstaking but it will work...
[22:32] <dwidmann> Jucato: I edited /etc/network/interfaces and manually set up eth0, then ifup eth0'd
[22:32] <Odd-rationale> MrBarrett http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/libxine1-ffmpeg
[22:33] <Odd-rationale> MrBarrett: down load this ^ and all the dep and put the .debs on your thumbdrive
[22:34] <Odd-rationale> MrBarrett: take the thumbdrive to the other computer and double click them to install. make usre to install the dependencies first.
[22:35] <MrBarrett> <-- is download now
[22:36] <MrBarrett> <-- but i have to boot now i'll try it and see.... thanks heaps!!
[22:36] <Odd-rationale> MrBarrett: did you download the dependencies too?
[22:36] <MrBarrett> i'll double check
[22:37] <MrBarrett> there seems to be about 10... get them all??
[22:37] <Odd-rationale> MrBarrett: and the dependecies of the dependencies if they have any and your computer doesn't...
[22:37] <Odd-rationale> MrBarrett: is your offline computer on?
[22:38] <MrBarrett> this one isnt but kubuntu is
[22:38] <MrBarrett> ahh its all running
[22:38] <dennister> ok, wasn't able to nap...too upset at the idea of building this server all over again :(
[22:39] <BluesKaj> dennister, that's a bummer :(
[22:39] <Odd-rationale> MrBarrett: on the offline computer you can do "aptitude search <packagename>" and see if it already has any of the deps.
[22:40] <dennister> BUT there's no friggin way i'm going to do the whole inventory all over again, so want to get back into the apache one more time to export the data
[22:41] <dennister> BluesKaj: in a way it's a bummer, but i started building that when I didn't have as many wonderful pieces of hardware to choose from, much of it I got donated just sunday and monday
[22:41] <matteo_> ciao
[22:41] <matteo_> qualche italiano
[22:41] <matteo_> ?
[22:42] <dennister> i was going to wait to build a bigger server until i had some $, but now i can make most of it right now, simply add a few pieces of hardware later, and have a much faster server
[22:43] <matteo_> italiani?
[22:43] <Odd-rationale> !it | matteo_
[22:43] <ubotu> matteo_: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[22:44] <matteo_> odd rationale
[22:44] <dennister> i mean, we all plan these projects, but then new, better stuff comes in, and you end up benefiting from the learning curve the first time around as well as the better hardware
[22:44] <matteo_> is a person or a bot?
[22:44] <dennister> ubotu is a u-bot-u
[22:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a u-bot-u - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:44] <dennister> see, bots r stupid :)
[22:45] <BluesKaj> dennister, nice to hear about donated HW :)
[22:46] <JasonWard> hi. I have kde3.5 and would like to upgrade to KDE4 on gutsy
[22:46] <JasonWard> sudo apt-get install kde4 didn't quite work
[22:47] <dennister> BluesKaj: yeah, but the very slow fileserver was making it really hard to enter the inventory, and when I initially built the fileserver i wasn't really expecting to use it as a database server as well as storage server for files
[22:47] <Odd-rationale> !kde4 | JasonWard
[22:47] <ubotu> JasonWard: KDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[22:47] <dennister> anyway, just downloaded the gutzy ubuntu-server...will use that this time around for the lamp stack
[22:47] <dwidmann> JasonWard: it works flawlessly in hardy though, so you know
[22:48] <dennister> when gutsy's server first came out it was very problematic, more so than the desktop cd, but it should be much better now
[22:49] <Stoffer> i'm trying to format my external hdd with gparted, but I keep getting an error: http://www.pastebin.org/26771  Can someone help me out?
[22:50] <matteo_> hello
[22:51] <matteo_> i need to import in konversation 1.0.1 a .ini servers list
[22:51] <stdin> matt__: you can ask in #konversation
[22:52] <matteo_> tanks
[22:52] <matteo_> i am in ubuntu irc server
[22:52] <matteo_> if i want the channels list?
[22:54] <Matt1728> can anyonke tell why dvdshrink doesn't work with wine on kubuntu
[22:55] <matteo_> not all windows aps runs on kubuntu!
[22:55] <Matt1728> oh it runs perfectly in fedora
[22:55] <Matt1728> i need something to burn dvds with the nothing on linux works for me
[22:56] <matteo_> try wine emulation of clone-dvd
[22:56] <Matt1728> does it work with kubuntu?
[22:56] <matteo_> clone-dvd is a good program
[22:57] <matteo_> i don't know if is emulated
[22:58] <venik> I keep losing my USB hard drive... How can I remind the system of its existence?
[22:58] <matteo_> i think for korks like DVD copy , mpeg4 conversion,ripping ecc...
[22:58] <Level15> if i boot off the alternate cd in recovery mode and choose Reinstall Grub boot loader option, is there a way to know if it worked (besides rebooting), and if it didn't work, see the error messages?
[22:59] <matteo_> i think for works like DVD copy , mpeg4 conversion,ripping ecc...
[22:59] <matteo_> windows is still better
[23:00] <Matt1728> nvm
[23:00] <venik> but then I have to use the horrible Zune software... ;-(
[23:00] <Matt1728> i had to mess with the configureration
[23:01] <Matt1728> works perfectly now
[23:01] <venik> the Zune software is the only reason I still use Windows, and it is AWFUL, but there is no Linux equivalent, as far as I know
[23:01] <Matt1728> oh you bought a zune?
[23:01] <venik> ;-(
[23:01] <Matt1728> lol
[23:01] <Matt1728> try amarok
[23:01] <Matt1728> it works perfectly with ipods
[23:02] <venik> the hardware is OK, but the "software" is below pathetic
[23:02] <Matt1728> well that's MS for you
[23:02] <Matt1728> is it worst then itunes?
[23:02] <venik> the Zune is better than the ipods in several ways, but until they fix the software it is nearly unusable
[23:02] <mike_> hi all
[23:03] <Matt1728> lol
[23:03] <venik> a $249 paperweight
[23:03] <Matt1728> haha
[23:03] <mike_> cine e pe aici?
[23:03] <Matt1728> how many songs can you put on it?
[23:03] <Jucato> hm... #kubuntu-offtopic please
[23:03] <venik> the sad thing is that they had a pretty decent software, based on WMP, and they rewrote the whole thing, making it awful
[23:04] <venik> it is 80 gb
[23:04] <Matt1728> ahh
[23:04] <venik> and has an FM tuner, too
[23:04] <Matt1728> haha
[23:04] <Matt1728> nice
[23:04] <venik> that works despite the software
[23:04] <Yuuki> Hi and sorry if my question is noobish, but is there a good tuto about laptop and projector (using the vga output of the laptop) with an ati card ?
[23:04] <venik> Matt-- can you help me with my USB external hard drive that disappears from time to time?
[23:05] <Matt1728> i could try
[23:05] <Matt1728> on linux or windows?
[23:05] <venik> linux
[23:05] <venik> kubuntu 7.10
[23:05] <Matt1728> what's wrong with it?
[23:05] <venik> It does not see it
[23:05] <venik> so I cannot mount it
[23:05] <Matt1728> ahh
[23:05] <Matt1728> what happens when you plug it in?
[23:06] <venik> yes it says that it is mounted at another spot... it is confusing
[23:06] <venik> nothing happens, and it does not appear in the STORAGE system
[23:06] <Matt1728> oh
[23:07] <Matt1728> type mount in the command to see if it's mounted
[23:07] <mike_> nici un roman pe aici?
[23:07] <venik> actually, I think that the whole USB thing is sick, since now it fails to see my Flashcruiser, too
[23:07] <Matt1728> ahh
[23:09] <venik> After typing mount, I do not see it-- I think it was supposed to be sdd1
[23:10] <Matt1728> type mount /sdd1 or something like that
[23:10] <Matt1728> to see if you can mounted it
[23:10] <venik> the FlashCruiser is not seen either
[23:10] <Matt1728> ahh
[23:10] <Matt1728> maybe you dont have driver
[23:10] <Matt1728> google for it
[23:10] <venik> this USED to work as of this afternoon,
[23:10] <venik> and I did not remove any drivers
[23:10] <Matt1728> lol
[23:11] <Matt1728> that cant be good
[23:11] <venik> this is almost as bad as the Zune junk
[23:11] <Matt1728> did you install anything else? or uninstall?
[23:11] <venik> not today
[23:11] <Matt1728> did you try restarting? things usually fix themselves haha
[23:11] <venik> I did, twice
[23:12] <venik> no help
[23:12] <Matt1728> ahh i have no idea then
[23:12] <Matt1728> sorry
[23:12] <venik> ok
[23:12] <Yuuki> does it work with a usb key?
[23:12] <ross_> Has anyone been getting "Plasma Workspace" Errors?: "KLauncher could not be reached via D-Bus, error when calling start_service_by_desktop_path: empty"
[23:17] <venik> no, it does not (now) see the usb key, although it used to
[23:17] <venik> somehow my fstab file must have been corrupted
[23:17] <Yuuki> maybe hal
[23:18] <Yuuki> i dont think its fstab related
[23:20] <Yuuki> hmmm
[23:20] <Yuuki> hald is running?
[23:20] <Yuuki> ps -aux | grep hald
[23:23] <Yuuki> if not, try sudo update-rc.d -f hald defaults
[23:24] <Bizzeh> hey, does anyone know of any problems with ubuntu/kubuntu and the logitech wave keyboard
[23:24] <Yuuki> si it hot key related?
[23:25] <Yuuki> (hot key meaning the extra keys like volume up or down etc...)
[23:27] <Bizzeh> well, ever since i got this keyboard, the live cd refuses to boot
[23:29] <Yuuki> what do you mean by "refuses"
[23:30] <Bizzeh> as in, it just hangs, and does nothing, and stops, and doesnt do anything
[23:31] <Yuuki> thats wierd
[23:31] <Yuuki> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=565032
[23:31] <Yuuki> according to that topic, it works fine except for special keys
[23:32] <Yuuki> (and that is kernel related i think, so just have to wait updates)
[23:32] <Bizzeh> which wouldnt be hard for me to write a filter driver to map them to some key combos
[23:33] <Yuuki> maybe the problem occurs with the live CD only
[23:34] <Bizzeh> it might even be something to do with my hdds
[23:34] <Bizzeh> since i have managed to get it to boot once
[23:34] <Bizzeh> but then it locked up at "starting partitioner"
[23:34] <Yuuki> wait
[23:34] <Yuuki> how do you know it is the keybaord fault?
[23:35] <Bizzeh> keyboard mini reciever plugged in, livecd wont boot
[23:35] <Bizzeh> unplug it, boots fine
[23:35] <Bizzeh> unplug it, boot, and plug it in after live cd booted, everything is also fine
[23:36] <blue_> anyone know why i'd be getting the following error when doing "make all", "make: *** No rule to make target `clean'. Stop.", the cpp file im trying to make compiles fine with "g++"
[23:36] <dennister> now let's home cdrdao isn't going to get silly on me
[23:36] <adz21c> blue_: tried just make?
[23:36] <dennister> and freeze my whole bloody system just to burn an iso
[23:36] <blue_> adz21c: "make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop."
[23:37] <adz21c> blue_: 'no makefile found' sure you got a makefile in there?
[23:37] <blue_> there is none, eclipse doesnt make one, should it?
[23:38] <adz21c> blue_: i only ever used eclipse with java, but i would think it should
[23:39] <Yuuki> Bizzeh check your bios
[23:40] <Yuuki> and look for USB Legacy Keyboard Support
[23:40] <Yuuki> and USB Legacy Mouse Support
[23:40] <Bizzeh> both on
[23:41] <blue_> adz21c: it makes a make file for managed projects...
[23:42] <Yuuki> Bizzeh
[23:42] <Yuuki> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gfxboot/+bug/35530
[23:42] <Yuuki> is this related to your problem?
[23:42] <adz21c> blue_: are you just opening the file with eclipse, its not part of a project?
[23:43] <blue_> adz21c: imtrying to make the project with eclipse, file->new etc..
[23:43] <adz21c> blue_: hmmm, i dunno then, i never used eclipse for cpp, u tried the eclipse channel?
[23:44] <blue_> i didnt know there was one :P
[23:45] <adz21c> blue_: yea theres a channel for almost anything and everything lol particularly larges projects like eclipse
[23:46] <blue_> adz21c: im on it now
[23:46] <blue_> adz21c: thanks so much man
[23:49] <stond> Can some one please help me with a problem I am having with Kaffine I am trrying to watch a video but it keeps popping up an window saying Audio output unavailable. Device is busy. () I have Kaffine 0.8.6 and I never had this problem before can someone please help
[23:53] <pagan0ne> is there another support channel for kubuntu 8.04?
[23:53] <Ukonpoika> stond, try closing all applications that require sound (including your web browser), then start them again. Works for me usually. Unfortunately I cannot help fixing the issue permanently :/
[23:53] <algyz> !hardy | pagan0ne
[23:53] <ubotu> pagan0ne: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[23:54] <pagan0ne> thanx algyz
[23:54] <hydrogen> CONSINDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE
[23:56] <pagan0ne> hydrogen im aware, im just having grub issues, and was hoping for help ;)
[23:56] <jessica_> what kind of grub issus's
[23:56] <jessica_> ?
[23:57] <hydrogen> CONSINDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARES
[23:57] <jessica_> what grub problems are you having ?
[23:58] <Ukonpoika> jessica_, he was having issues with Kubuntu 8.04, but was already redirected to the right channel.
[23:59] <jessica_> #ubuntu+1 we dont help with that stuff
[23:59] <jessica_> =]