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hrlrHello, I'm trying to identify a bug.   When I go: System --> Administration --> Network Tools and then select the "Lookup" tab I enter the IP address for my ubuntu machine.  Nothing is returned from the query.  Can someone help?00:38
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bdmurrayhrlr: which release of Ubuntu are you using?00:40
hrlrbdmurray: Hardy00:41
hrlrbdmurray: My router is also not returning a hostname for my ubuntu system.  Something's fishy.00:42
tawmasHi, everybody, I'm still new around here and I could use some guidance... Think I've nailed this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netbase/+bug/209087 and I think it's filed against the wrong package. I have what looks like the same bug and I have a workaround.00:44
tawmasI hope this is the proper place to get some help :-) Please, crucify me if I'm wrong00:45
james_wtawmas: you're not wrong at all, this is exactly the right place00:45
tawmasjames_w: k, fine!00:46
james_wtawmas: what package do you think it applies to?00:46
bdmurrayhrlr: I'm not positive but I think that applet queries your dns server so wouldn't look in '/etc/hosts'00:46
tawmasjames_w: network-manager-applet or network-config (sorry, I had the right name for the latter yesterday I need to look it up again)00:47
bdmurrayhrlr: do you have a dns server under your control?00:48
tawmasjames_w: when you switch from roaming mode to manual configuration, it's writing a blank link in /etc/network/interfaces where there should be an auto <interface>00:48
tawmasmanually editing the file and restarting networking does the trick00:49
hrlrbdmurray: No.  But I'm able to see other computers on my network by using this technique.  It shows their hostnames and information.00:49
james_wtawmas: I've not heard of network-config, but it sounds like it might well be it's fault.00:50
hrlrbdmurray: I wish I had Gutsy installed so I could compare.  I'm almost positive that it worked in Gutsy.00:50
james_wtawmas: how do you switch to and from roaming mode?00:50
bdmurrayhrlr: I have a gutsy system around and can check it out00:50
hrlrbdmurray: Really?  That would be awesome!00:51
jlpariseHey guys00:51
jlpariseI'm a gutsy right now00:51
jlpariseif you need me to check something00:51
tawmasjames_w: just looked it up, the name is network-config. I click on the n-m applet icon and the select manual configuration from the dropdown00:51
hrlrjlpraise:  When I go: System --> Administration --> Network Tools and then select the "Lookup" tab I enter the IP address for my ubuntu machine.  Nothing is returned from the query.  Can you test this on Gutsy?00:52
jlparisesure I'll try it now00:52
james_wtawmas: then what? I can try it now00:52
james_wtawmas: are you on Hardy?00:53
james_wtawmas: do you mean network-admin?00:53
tawmasjames_w: yep, that could be00:53
james_wtawmas: it's source package is "gnome-system-tools", you should probably reassign it there. Do you know how to do that?00:54
hrlrjlparise: By "my ubuntu machine" I mean
hrlrjlparise: So whatever your local address is.00:54
jlpariseI am rtying to remember hwo to get my IP00:54
jlpariselong day at work...00:55
tawmasJames_w: do I click to expand and type in the new package name?00:55
james_wtawmas: exactly00:55
hrlrjlparise:  If you use NetworkManager you can right click on it and hit "Connection Information"00:55
jlpariseinterestingly my connection info is always greyed out00:56
jlpariseeven though I am connected00:56
james_wtawmas: if you also add a comment with everything you have found out, the steps to reproduce, and the cause of the failure (i.e. where the line is) then it should be triaged tomorrow00:56
tawmasBTW, I just found that if I try and edit the settings from the Network tools applet, it brings up a dialog telling that the interface doesn't exist00:56
jlpariseifconfig thats the one...00:56
james_wtawmas: the gnome triagers are excellent.00:56
tawmasJames_w: excellent :-)00:56
tawmasI'm doing right now00:56
james_wtawmas: ah, that's odd, you should add that information as well. I've got to sleep now, sorry I can't help you more.00:56
jlpariseOk I just tried it with my IP on Gutsy00:57
jlpariseI did get 1 line of output00:57
tawmasI know, it's 2 in the night here ;-)00:57
tawmasGood night, and thanks00:57
hrlrjlparise:  ifconfig -a00:57
jlpariseyeh I just figured it out thanks though00:57
james_wtawmas: go to be then :-)00:57
jlpariseI get 1 complete line of output00:57
jlpariseinterestingly it's the same line nomatter what I pick on the information type combo box00:58
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tawmasjames_w: one last question: do I also confirm it?01:00
hrlrjlparise:  so it does provide a response?01:00
jlparisebut as I said that combo box doesn;t seem to change the response01:00
jlpariseI am not sure if it should, I just see that it doesn't01:00
hrlrbdmurray: Have you been able to test on your Gutsy as well?01:01
hrlrjlparise:  Interesting.01:01
bdmurrayhrlr: yes and my hostname doesn't show up when I search for it01:02
bdmurrayYou are searching by IP though is that right?01:03
hrlrbdmurray: Yes01:03
hrlrbdmurray: Using localhost doesn't work either.01:03
jlpariseI was also searching by IP, however I don't have a DNS server or anythign liek that01:03
jlparisehrlr: If I enter "localhost" I get information, but name is blank01:04
jlparisehrlr; If I enter loopback "" I get different information01:05
hrlrjlparise:  hrmmm...  localhost is working here...  I must have been trying it under the wrong tab earlier... ooops....    The IP address doesn't show anything.01:07
hrlrjlparise:  Do you have any other computers on the LAN that can see that computer that could query the hostname?01:07
hrlrjlparise:  That's where my problem is.  My router and other computers don't see the Ubuntu system where as they had previously.01:08
jlparisehrlr: I don't currently have another machine available...01:08
hrlrI just tried to do a "ping -a" from my Windows machine and it doesn't return a hostname.01:11
hrlrBut it does for any other machine on the LAN.01:11
hrlrAnd typing "hostname" in the console of my ubuntu machine diesplays "ubuntu" as a result.01:12
jlparisesometimes on Windows the host names take awhile to repopulate01:13
jlpariseI think the arp DOS command can force a rebuild of the arp tables01:13
jlparisesometimes that an/or cycling power ontherouter/switch helps01:13
hrlrI've been doing that all week and nothing.01:13
jlparisethats all I can think of at the moment01:14
hrlrjlparise:  Interestingly, Gutsy never had this problem.01:15
pochubdmurray: hmm, your hug day list didn't ignore duplicates, perhaps it should have done it?01:15
bdmurrayWhat does ping -a in Windows do?01:15
hrlrresolves hostnames01:15
bdmurraypochu: Yes, that would probably make it more useful.01:16
hrlrIt'll say "Pinging 'hostname'" instead of "Pinging".01:16
bdmurraypochu: Sorry about that oversight01:16
pochubdmurray: I've opened 10 bugs, and 5 are dups :)01:17
pochuand of those 5 bugs, 2 are already fixed (the master bug) and 2 already have links to GNOME bugzilla01:18
bdmurrayThat's disappointing.  The query takes quite a while to run so restarting is probably not the best idea.01:18
bdmurrayI'll see what I can do though01:19
affluxmorning :)01:19
hrlrIs there anyone here that has multiple computers on a LAN that can ping or lookup their Hardy machine?01:20
hrlrSorry to be a pain.  I'm just trying to get this thing figured out.01:20
bdmurraypochu: okay, I've a plan thanks for the proding01:26
bdmurrayI didn't realize it was that bad.01:26
pochubdmurray: are you gonna change the list? coz I'm starting to triage bugs :)01:27
pochuif you change it, that's perfect, just to hold on until you change it01:28
bdmurraypochu: yes, I'll change it shortly01:28
bdmurraypochu: well, as soon as I can edit the wiki ;)01:29
pochuouch, sorry01:29
pochuhold on a second01:29
bdmurrayheh, s'okay01:29
affluxokay, going to bed now, good night (!"ยง!% DST...)01:31
pochubdmurray: your turn :)01:33
bdmurraypochu: It should be good now01:35
hrlrIs there anyone here that has multiple computers on a LAN that can ping or lookup their Hardy machine to resolve the hostname?01:42
marnaneljames_w: ping.  remind me what happens between adding the new patch and debuild?02:55
mikedep333hey, I've noticed a serious bug reoccur with hardy, but I believe it is being ignored because it was originally filed in 2006. Should I create a new bug report or something?02:56
RAOFmikedep333: I'm pretty sure you've got a different bug.  Are you specifying a vga= line in the kernel boot parameters?03:02
RAOFAlso, Yay unfixable drivers!03:04
mikedep333RAOF: no I am not03:08
mikedep333yeah I know. I am hooked on my binary blobs.03:09
RAOFRight.  So, that's certainly a different bug.  I'll mark it as 'invalid'.  Please file another one, preferably with all the ways you can trigger such things (it seems you have a number of bugs there).03:09
RAOFBe warned that nvidia are a black hole of annoying bugs.03:11
mikedep333I've also heard that even the intel drivers are incomplete and therefore do not have the best compatibility with 3d apps/games.03:11
mikedep333it seems like there are no good options03:12
RAOFIntel are _much_ better.  You mainly see the rough edges when you do stuff with Compiz.03:12
mikedep333what I've heard is that many programs under wine (ugh) do not work because the intel drivers have less features03:13
RAOFAnd the infrastructure to fix those rough edges (and make Intel much faster) is in Xorg git.03:13
mikedep333yeah, of course03:13
RAOFI know that WoW works fine under wine on Intel; I don't imagine that there's a lot of stuff that won't work.03:14
mikedep333I'll keep that in mind next time I want to buy a PC with integrated graphics03:14
RAOFTherin lies the problem, yes.  Intel may have some actual graphics _cards_ in a year or so, though :)03:15
mikedep333lol, yeah03:15
mikedep333that would be nice03:15
mikedep333and I am eagerly waiting to see how fast the CPU/GPU combos are03:15
RAOF(And their windows 3d drivers will share their infrastructure with the linux ones).03:16
mikedep333what do they do for opengl?03:16
mikedep333do they use mesa?03:16
RAOFNot at the moment; the gallium (mesa-ng!) framework is cross-platform, though, and that's what they're using.03:17
RAOFs/using/will be using/.03:17
mikedep333I see03:17
mikedep333google results don't show much for that03:18
mikedep333right now I am looking over the monstrous thread for my laptop to see if people are noticing my bug again03:18
mikedep333looks like people are experiencing it03:19
mikedep333here it is03:21
greg-gshould the table on the bugday wiki page have lightgreen added to the completed bugs?03:31
greg-gI can go through real quick to fix it since not many have been done.03:31
dsargeantdoes anybody know what package the System->Preferences->Appearance bugs should be filed against?  control-center?03:43
bdmurraygreg-g: that'd be great03:54
bdmurraydsargeant: gnome-control-center03:56
greg-gbdmurray: done04:01
bdmurrayI'll be adding some more bugs real soo now04:02
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collusionShould LP#207526 be forwarded upstream?04:47
greg-gbug 20752604:48
collusionor, maybe someone could confirm it for me.04:48
greg-gare you experiencing it also?  and can you confirm that the patch/workaround works?04:51
collusioni submitted the bug, actually.04:52
greg-gwell, the information provided looks good04:54
collusionseems like a simple to adapt patch but i don't know if that's something that we'd fix in ubuntu version or pass on to the upstream.  i can only imagine the mb of log messages this might generate if it gets into LTS. :-)04:56
greg-gcollusion: yeah, do you know the upstream bug tracker?04:59
collusionthe debian bts? not particularly well though i was just reading about it.05:00
* greg-g doesn't know much about postfix, specifically whether it should go to debian or postfix proper05:00
collusionthe file that is patched appears to be a Debian addition.05:03
greg-gso probably debian then05:04
hrlrI've been having problems with Hardy and DHCP as it operates out-of-the-box.  The problem I've been having is Hardy not handing off the hostname to DHCP when establishing an IP address where Gutsy is working just fine.05:04
hrlrGutsy:  http://pastebin.ca/96571505:05
hrlrHardy: http://pastebin.ca/96571605:05
collusioncan you limit tcpdump to port 68?05:06
hrlrSure..  How do I do that?  :)05:06
collusion"tcpdump -s 1500 port 68" should work, i think.05:07
hrlrbrb.  I'll give it a shot right now.05:09
greg-gcollusion: new comment on your bug, looks good.05:12
greg-gok, did my few for tonight, time for bed05:13
hrlrcollusion: http://pastebin.ca/96572105:14
collusiongreg-g: thx for the help. 'night.05:14
greg-gcollusion: np05:14
collusionhrlr: are you using network manager?05:16
hrlrcollusion: yes.05:16
collusionhow do you know that hardy is not handing off the hostname?05:16
collusioncan you pastebin the relevant lines from /var/log/daemon.log?  (NetworkManager logs a lot of status information there.)05:17
hrlrcollusion: because the router doesn't have the hostname in it.05:17
collusionhrlr: you're looking to get a specific IP address but you're just getting a random one?05:17
hrlrAnd when I ping the machine with another windows machine (ping -a it doesn't resolve.05:18
hrlrcollusion: No.  It should operate dynamically out-of-the-box..  should it not?05:18
hrlrcollusion:  I should clarify...  when I go "ping -a" from the windows machine it doesn't resolve the hostname but still pings the ip.05:19
hrlrIn Gutsy I don't have that problem...05:20
hrlrEverything appears to be fine on the local machine though.  I type in "hostname" and get back what is expected.  and that's "ubuntu".05:21
hrlrBut everyone else on the network doesn't see my hostname as Hardy isn't giving it up to the DHCP.05:21
hrlrBut I have no idea how to articulate this bug and where to start.05:22
hrlrWould that be a "high priority" bug if it were confirmed?05:23
collusioni can't speak to the priorities.05:24
collusion(i'm new here.)05:24
hrlrahhhh...  so how would I go about getting this confirmed?05:25
collusioni sort of feel like your router should be assigning the hostname.05:25
hrlrThat always comes from the machine name...  does it not?05:26
collusionDHCP usu. works by you telling the DHCP server your hw mac address and it telling you an IP address.  The mapping of IP address to DNS name may or may not be handled by the same machine.05:27
collusionso in general your DNS name may not match the output of `hostname`05:27
hrlrI'm confused as to why gutsy would operate differently in this case.05:28
collusionin tomato wrt, i can assign myself a hostname in the gui.05:28
collusionthat is a bit odd. are you testing with two separate machines?05:28
hrlrSame machine.05:28
collusionfull clean installs in separate partitions? do they share any state? (e.g. /var)05:28
hrlrReseting the router on each try so to be sure there is nothing leaching over.05:28
collusioncan you compare /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.* on the two machines?05:29
collusion(er, two partitions)05:29
hrlrHardy is installed and I did the other tcpdump from the gutsy live-cd.05:30
hrlrSo I can't really compare...  other than to say that they're both default installs.05:31
hrlrerr... default settings05:31
collusiondoes "grep host-name /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient*" return anything on hardy?05:33
hrlrthis returns nothing05:33
collusionwell, the next thing i'd be curious about is the output of NetworkManager in /var/log/daemon.log between gutsy and hardy.05:37
collusionsounds like it might be a regression.05:37
hrlrI'm not sure what I'd be looking for...  any hints?05:41
hrlrMar 31 19:27:41 ubuntu NetworkManager: <info>    domain name 'phub.net.cable.rogers.com'05:43
hrlrabove is what Hardy produced in the logs...  I'll bet Gutsy says "Mar 31 19:27:41 ubuntu NetworkManager: <info>    domain name 'ubuntu.phub.net.cable.rogers.com' "05:44
hrlrshould I go look?05:44
collusionwell, have to run; hrlr should look for hostname entries in the NetworkManager logs.  I imagine there might be a difference in gutsy.05:56
symptomhello how do i change the status of a bug to duplicate06:25
RAOFsymptom: You hit the "mark as duplicate" link on the left-hand side.06:26
symptomRAOF: wow... amazing06:26
symptomsorry :)06:27
RAOFThat's OK.  I've missed stuff over there before.06:28
symptomThank you... Im just trying to help out :)06:28
hrlrOk.  I've finally submitted my bug with as much info as I have.  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/21009506:44
hrlrCan someone tell me if I did it ok?  (Still new here).06:45
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IulianHappy hug day everyone!13:05
emuI wanted to help with the bugwatches... and took #12845113:10
emuBut I don`t knwo what to do: The Bugreporter is on both bugtrackers the same, and both bugs are reported against ubuntu. on bugs.kde.org the bug is not confirmed.13:11
emuI think I shouldn`t add a bug watch. Is this correct?13:11
james_wbug 12845113:14
ubotuLaunchpad bug 128451 in meta-kde "Wrong Hebrew text translation in Kontact: deleting recurring events" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/12845113:14
james_wemu: someone just did13:15
james_wemu: yes, you should add the bug watch, it doesn't say anything about whether the bug is the same status in both or anything13:15
james_wit just allows an association between the Ubuntu bug and the upstream one.13:16
emujames_w: ok thanks13:16
james_wso here we want to know that it has already been reported upstream.13:16
qensehapy hug day everyone!13:16
james_whappy hug day qense, Iulian13:16
txwikingerhappy hug day13:18
james_wyou too txwikinger13:21
qensebtw, is abiword 2.6 going to be included in hardy?13:25
snap-lgense: I'm thinking if it's not on the beta CD, it's not included13:26
snap-lsorry, let me rephrase that. that was quite silly of me. :)13:27
snap-lLooks like it's 2.4.6-313:28
qenseoh, that's a pitty13:28
qenseabiword has some great improvements in it's new version13:28
snap-lI think it was released too late for this cycle13:29
snap-lMarch 24, 2008?13:29
qenseare exceptions still granted sometimes at this stage?13:32
qenseI think this would deserve one13:32
qense2.4 is already 2.5 years old13:32
snap-lI'm not sure how it works13:34
ubotuLaunchpad bug 202174 in abiword "Please update to version 2.6" [Undecided,Incomplete]13:35
james_wthere are some things that would need to be done before you could find out for sure13:36
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jcastropedro_: can you look at lp:198111 and gnome:502900?15:24
qensedoes hugday tools work with the current hugday page, which doesn't have bug titles, but comments?15:24
jcastroI /think/ those are the same bug15:24
pedro_jcastro: sure, give min15:24
seb128bug #19811115:25
ubotuLaunchpad bug 198111 in evolution "Evolution and Google calendar" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19811115:25
seb128gnome bug #50290015:25
ubotuGnome bug 502900 in Calendar "Google Calendar does not connect, no errors given" [Major,Unconfirmed] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50290015:25
seb128jcastro: right, that's already written in the launchpad bug comments15:26
jcastroyeah, I'm just trying to determine if the comment is correct or not15:26
seb128not sure the bug has enough information for that15:27
seb128somebody having the issue should really open a bug upstream15:27
jcastrothere's 3 or 4 upstream google calendar bugs which might be related upstream but they don't have details15:28
pedro_yep, comments on both reports are a bit confusing better to open a new one upstream15:31
jcastrook, on it15:31
greg-gbdmurray: sometimes the upstream report link is not in the comments but on the left under "remote bug watches" and that seems to be confusing for some triagers who don't see them.15:41
greg-gbdmurray: should we add "be sure to look on the left if you don't see it in the comments" on the wiki?15:41
bdmurraygreg-g: Do you have an example?15:42
greg-gbug 4680215:43
ubotuLaunchpad bug 46802 in mergeant "Failure to connect to PostgreSQL database" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/4680215:43
greg-gthe link is valid and it should be set to "fix released" (although I need to add info into LP about the upstream of mergeant)15:43
greg-gthat specific bug was marked as done on the wiki because of the lack of link in comments15:45
greg-gok, I'm an idiot, I can't get an upstream link for mergeant started because I can't seem to be able to tell LP what it wants to know to set up the relationship.15:50
pedro_jcastro: if you send a report upstream (at least on desktop) please set the status to triaged, thanks ;-)15:52
bdmurraygreg-g: I hadn't seen the watches in the side before - thanks for pointing that out.  I think it would be helpful to add it to the wiki.15:53
jcastropedro_: noted, thanks!15:53
pedro_jcastro: you're welcome15:54
greg-gbdmurray: can you help me adding the upstream link for that bug?15:54
bdmurraygreg-g: I can try. ;)15:56
bdmurraymergeant is the project?15:56
bdmurrayand the problem that you ran into is that the project doesn't exist in Launchpad yet right?15:58
bdmurrayjcastro: this is something you are pretty familiar with right?15:59
jcastroyep, I am on it greg-g15:59
greg-gjcastro: thankya, tell me what you are doing so you don't have to do it again for me :)15:59
jcastrogreg-g: basically, I click on register on the lp front page16:01
jcastrothen I create a new project and fill out all the info for the project16:01
greg-goh, ok. I believe I had done that before (for a different project).  Just making sure that is the right way since it wasn't mentioned in the BugSquad "watches" page16:01
jcastrogreg-g: https://edge.launchpad.net/mergeant16:01
qenseyou can register a project when selecting one to add a project's bug to the bug watcher16:01
qensein the search dialog there is a register project link16:01
jcastrogreg-g: I usually go a step further and import their svn, register their bug tracker, etc.16:02
jcastrosince so many of the registered projects are empty16:02
greg-gjcastro: yeah, good deal16:02
qenseI just registered a project and found their maintainer at LP :) so I didn't do a thing(except for the bug tracker) and assigned him as maintainer16:03
greg-gqense: I'll look closer next time :)16:03
qenseok :)16:03
qenseyou will be maintainer after you've registered the project16:03
jcastroyeah, I usually chase down the upstream and ask if they want ownership, etc.16:04
bdmurrayDoesn't it seem like that bug should be fixed by now?16:10
bdmurrayI mean fixed in Hardy16:10
jcastroit should, murrayc is upstream gnome-db and he confirms that it works...16:10
qensehow do you mean, April Fool's Day? http://www.google.com/intl/en/press/pressrel/20080401_virgle.html16:13
bdmurrayI can't find anything in the changelog about it though16:14
bdmurrayBut that is 2 developers saying it works though.16:14
pochubdmurray: if the link is to fedora's bugzilla, and I add it as a bug watch, do i set the wiki to Yes or to No?16:15
bdmurraygreg-g: Do you want to close it or should I?16:15
greg-goh, yeah, I'll get it.16:16
bdmurraypochu: A bug mentioning the fedora bugzilla shouldn't have shown up.  What bug number is it?16:16
pochubdmurray: bug 3658116:18
ubotuLaunchpad bug 36581 in gamin "gam_server consumes lots of cpu time" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/3658116:18
greg-gpochu: left hand side, under Remote bug watches16:23
pochugreg-g: ah16:23
pochudidn't know that. is that because a duplicate has it?16:23
greg-ghmm, not sure16:23
pochu(don't think so, none has)16:24
greg-gwell, it is in a comment on a duplicate, bug 381416:24
ubotuLaunchpad bug 3814 in gamin "gamin eats cpu cycles constantly (dup-of: 36581)" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/381416:25
ubotuLaunchpad bug 36581 in gamin "gam_server consumes lots of cpu time" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/3658116:25
pochuah, that was a bug migrated from bugzilla.ubuntu.com16:25
pochuI am reposting this from http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6500 as I16:25
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pochuhave received no response from ubuntu developers, and believe this to be a16:25
pochu(from the gnome bug)16:25
pochugamin bug rather than a packaging bug anyway:16:25
pochubdmurray: ^-- nevermind16:26
bdmurraypochu: I see - thanks.16:26
pochuis Florian Thomas here?16:34
pochuwhat do you do not to duplicate efforts and open the same links? do you assign them to you first in the wiki, and later update the status?16:39
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bdmurraythat sounds like a good idea, or maybe saying here which one you are looking at16:40
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bdmurrayI'm looking at 18279916:42
pochuI say it because I opened 5 bugs in a row, but (at least) 3 of them where looked by someone else at the same time :)16:44
bdmurrayThat's better than nobody looking at them. ;)16:44
qensedoes launchpad report you when you are submitting a change to a bug when someone else has done that before you while you were editing?16:45
pochubut if we look at different bugs we can triage 4x more bugs :)16:45
pochuqense: if it's the same, yes16:45
pochue.g. I tried to add a watch and it was done while I was adding it, and Launchpad complained16:46
* greg-g is looking at 13301416:46
qenseok, thanks16:47
markvandenborr1someone wants some launchpad karma?16:47
markvandenborr1then please confirm https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/20806816:48
ubotuLaunchpad bug 208068 in totem "totem plays midi, but complains about missing codec afterwards" [Undecided,New]16:48
keescookhrm, how do I link to a freedesktop bug?16:48
bdmurraykeescook: what bug number are you looking at?16:48
keescookbug 20503716:48
ubotuLaunchpad bug 205037 in policykit "policykit or policykit-gnome do not work with passwords containing "%" character" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20503716:48
markvandenborr1it's painfully obvious, but I shouldn't of course confirm my own bug report16:48
markvandenborr1which I did, thinking this was so obvious a bug and so obviously reproducible16:49
bdmurraykeescook: so also affects "Project"16:49
keescook"freedesktop" didn't show up in a search16:49
* greg-g looking at 19845316:50
bdmurrayIsn't policykit the "project" and freedesktop.org just the bts?16:51
markvandenborr1is there any more useful information I could add to #20806816:51
keescookI have no idea.  :)16:51
bdmurrayjcastro: ?16:52
keescookbdmurray: ah-ha, I needed to register it, it seems16:53
bdmurraykeescook: I found one at https://launchpad.net/policykit16:53
keescook(I just created it)16:53
* greg-g 18145716:53
bdmurrayOkay, sweet!16:54
sbarjolahi, should announce with bug I'm checking here?16:54
bdmurrayI've tried to add a watch for another policykit bug, just as an experiment, and got a message saying "This step can be avoided by updating the packaging information for policykit".16:56
greg-gsbarjola: if you could be so kind, yes.16:56
bdmurraySo I'm updating it at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/policykit/+edit-packaging16:57
sbarjolaok.. thanks16:58
bdmurraykeescook: so that bit is important too16:58
bdmurrayas it establishes the relationship between the package in Ubuntu and the project16:58
bdmurrayjcastro: did you do that bit for mergeant?16:59
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pochumarkvandenborr1: I think I already saw that bug17:01
greg-gthe time is now noon, time to do other work.  Good looking hugday page so far everyone!17:01
pochumvo: bug 208068, I think someone told me you need to update the automatic-codec-installation database, will you do that before the hardy release?17:02
ubotuLaunchpad bug 208068 in totem "totem plays midi, but complains about missing codec afterwards" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20806817:02
pochu(in case that was correct, of course)17:02
mvopochu: hm, that might be a different issue, I update the database regularly, but I'm not sure if a simple update will make this bug here go away17:03
bdmurrayjcastro: I did it for mergeant17:04
pochumvo: did you update it in the last month or so?17:05
pochu(that's more or less when gstreamer-plugins-bad gained midi support)17:05
markvandenborr1pochu: thx again for that!17:06
mvopochu: should  have happend on "14 Mar", but I can will do another update for final17:06
pochumvo: i'm going to look into it to confirm the issue, perhaps it's a Totem bug17:07
mvothanks pochu17:07
pochuI think that if I don't have the codec and gnome-app-install pop ups the database is good and it's a Totem bug... if it doesn't, then it would be the database17:07
bdmurraymvo: what is the best way to let you know if I've updated a bug with a branch with a fix?17:08
markvandenborr1pochu: it might be both, right...17:08
pochumvo: gnome-app-install works fine if I uninstall gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad, so the database is fine :)17:12
mvobdmurray: poke me17:12
mvopochu: aha, cool! thanks for checking :)17:12
bdmurraymvo: bug 209049 has a bzr branch then.17:12
ubotuLaunchpad bug 209049 in unattended-upgrades "Spelling Mistake in 50unattended-upgrades" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20904917:12
pochumvo: although it says "confirm installation of restricted software", but it's in universe :)17:13
mvobdmurray: thanks, merging now17:14
pochuouch X crashed17:16
pochumarkvandenborr1: can you play midi files at all? they play here, but I hear no sound17:17
mvobdmurray: commited, thanks a lot!17:19
secretlondonqense, bug #197902 failed the retrace, so it doesn't have full apport info17:21
ubotuLaunchpad bug 197902 in rhythmbox "rhythmbox crashed when pluged in and removed mp3-player w/o having codec installed" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19790217:21
qensedoesn't it?17:21
qenseI thought it was complete17:21
qenseI must have confused it with another report17:22
secretlondonno, apport-failed-retrace17:22
qensethanks for telling17:24
bdmurrayI want to add a bug watch for bug 199960 but am uncertain of which "Project" to use.17:33
ubotuLaunchpad bug 199960 in gnome-settings-daemon "error starting GNOME Settings Daemon" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19996017:33
bdmurraypedro_: Do you have an idea?17:33
pedro_bdmurray:  It'd be gnome-settings-daemon17:35
bdmurrayAnd that isn't registered as a project as far as I can tell.  Are we supposed to create a project for every GNOME component?17:36
pedro_you want to add one to which bug?17:36
pedro_because there's one pointing to a gtk+ bug17:36
secretlondonyes, afaik. it seems silly17:36
secretlondonit also seems to imply that every bit of gnome is registered on laucnhpad, and gives me the bug triager some ownership of the project17:37
bdmurraypedro_: right the gtk+ bug17:37
pedro_should it be reassigned then or create another task ?17:37
pedro_i'm not sure if that's the same report17:38
bdmurraypedro_: I see your point.  I'm particularly concerned about having to add projects for every part of gnome though.17:43
pedro_how others projects are managing that on launchpad?17:44
pedro_like kde for instance17:45
bdmurrayI'm not sure I'll look into it though.17:45
txwikingerpedro_: I think we have a project for most parts17:45
bdmurrayWhat have you been doing in the past?17:45
keescookbdmurray: ah-ha, okay17:46
txwikingerhowever, for the kde4 stuff I just use the old project equivalent17:46
txwikingerbut kde has most stuff combined in groups kdebase, kdelibs, kdeutils etc17:47
pochumarkvandenborr1, mvo: I've reproduced it, and it sounds more like a GStreamer issue to me17:47
pedro_bdmurray: what you suggest is having just a big upstream project called gnome and delete the single upstream products?17:47
pochupedro_: can you reproduce bug 208068 with my steps?17:47
ubotuLaunchpad bug 208068 in totem "totem plays midi, but complains about missing codec afterwards" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20806817:47
secretlondonbasically all projects need to be registered before you can forward upstream, including universe17:47
pedro_pochu: looking17:47
bdmurraypedro_: I'm not certain what the right solution is, I just think this one sounds painful.17:48
txwikingercan LP bug watch savannah?17:48
bdmurraytxwikinger: yes17:48
pedro_secretlondon: indeed, I'd better go for if we import a project we should ask for a upstream contact and create the project that's it17:48
* DOOM_NX helloooooooooooooo17:49
secretlondonI feel I shouldn't get power to make a launchpad project as I'm just a triager. Can upstream get back their projects?17:50
pedro_hey DOOM_NX17:50
secretlondonhmm. xchat scrolling this channel but not giving me new posts17:51
pedro_pochu: reproduced, I'm attaching a gstreamer log to it17:52
sbarjolabug 19773017:54
ubotuLaunchpad bug 197730 in eog "Eye of GNOME doesn't speak Bluetooth." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19773017:54
pochupedro_: cool, thank you17:56
* DOOM_NX opa giati paei pros ta pisw h karekla?...18:03
* DOOM_NX goodnight everyone! just ring me if u need anything, love u all :)18:35
bdmurraypedro_: I'm going to unmark bug 209979 as a duplicate as I was using it to test some bughelper stuff.  I'll mark it again later.18:37
ubotuBug 209979 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/209979 is private18:37
* jcastro is working on 14694618:48
seb128jcastro: you should write "bug" before the numbers18:48
bdmurraythekorn: ping18:49
collusionUpdated bug 12858518:50
ubotuLaunchpad bug 128585 in linux-source-2.6.22 "[gutsy] no sound with SAA7134 - pci id 1102:0005" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/12858518:50
thekornbdmurray, peng18:52
bdmurrayI'm trying to get a bughelper clue file to match bug 209979 and I'm not having any luck18:53
ubotuLaunchpad bug 209979 in gnome-panel "gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV in clock_zoneinfo_get_coords()" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20997918:53
collusionAre the bugs listed on UbuntuBugDay/20080401 in any particular order?18:53
thekornbdmurray, what are the important facts in this bugreport18:54
bdmurraythekorn: I've been using "clock_zoneinfo_get_coords" as the op most recently and it matches 201102 (the master) but not 20997918:55
bdmurraycollusion: no they are not18:55
thekornbug 20110218:56
ubotuLaunchpad bug 201102 in gnome-panel "gnome-panel crashes when selecting location without coordinates" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20110218:56
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thekornbdmurray, are you using the gnome-panel.info file in the -data branch?18:59
thekornI'm wondering if this file is valid at all18:59
bdmurraythekorn: I cleaned it up but haven't committed it yet as I was trying to add this clue19:00
thekornok, playing with this now19:00
bdmurrayI've tried searching dups and attachments and only get 2 matches with it19:01
collusionUpdated bug 20594019:06
ubotuLaunchpad bug 205940 in gnome-panel "Places menu shows "x-nautilus-desktop"" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20594019:06
thekornbdmurray, ok, bug 209979 is not shown because it's "Invalid"19:10
ubotuLaunchpad bug 209979 in gnome-panel "gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV in clock_zoneinfo_get_coords()" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20997919:10
bdmurraythekorn: doh! thanks19:10
bdmurraythekorn: additionally I had tried to make the op "run_find_location_save (button=<value optimized out>, cd=0xb0bc10) at clock.c:3202" but I think the <value optimized out> bit was causing problems.  Is that right?19:12
thekornbdmurray, you are right, but there are two options:19:13
thekornescape the <>, I'm not sure how to do this in xml19:13
thekornor use a regular expression19:14
bdmurrayWhat is the format for clue file regular expressions?19:15
thekornbdmurray, <op>r'myRegEx'</op>19:19
thekornbdmurray, so maybe something like: r"run_find_location_save \(button[^\.]+\.c\:3202"19:20
thekornugly but should do the job19:20
bdmurraythekorn: thanks, I'll give it a shot19:22
greg-gwhen is regex not ugly?19:36
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secretlondonI wish I could find *any* info to debug my own system freeze bug19:37
* secretlondon grumbles19:37
jcastro10 more bugs!19:39
greg-gholy crap19:40
greg-gI mean, wow19:40
qenseis it possible dat 5-a-day-applet doesn't do a thing when your SSH key isn't right?19:40
jcastroyeah it just silently fails, it has a log in /tmp though19:41
thekornbdmurray, hmm, it fails  with r"run_find_location_save \(button[^\.]+\.c\:3202" but works with19:47
thekornr'run_find_location_save \(button[^\.]+\.c\:3202'19:47
bdmurraythekorn: the difference there is single quotes vs double right?  I'd been using single19:53
thekornright, but in my example I used double19:54
thekornand it took me some time to understand why this is not working :)19:55
bdmurrayah! ;)19:55
greg-gthere, made my 7 day average be 5 or more20:07
* secretlondon got sick of them20:08
greg-gsome are intense (so many issues popping in in comments/not really sure if anyone knows what the cause is, etc)20:09
secretlondonyeah, and a lot of the bugs upstream are *not* watches as they are just related issues20:09
greg-gright right20:10
jcastrogreg-g: not a bad days pull for 5-a-day. We might eventually catch kubuntu-de someday20:19
greg-gyeah, with the bug jam at PC and some events this summer, we could definitely rope in, I mean, welcome more people to participate20:22
greg-gjcastro: ^20:22
jcastrogreg-g: I created this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RunningBugJam20:26
greg-gjcastro: is the playbook created yet?20:28
jcastrogreg-g: It's finished but we haven't got the pdf back from the art folks.20:28
greg-gjcastro: ah20:29
jcastrogreg-g: They have a deadline to get them done for penguicon so we have them.20:29
greg-ggood deal20:29
jcastrothen we can link it to anyone who wants to run a bug jam.20:29
greg-gyep yep, I do like those playbooks20:30
jcastrogreg-g: feel free to edit that page as you see fit.20:30
blueyedDoes the move-duplicates script from fnord work for you? I'm getting an internal error only.20:37
affluxfnord is just the mail alias :P20:39
affluxblueyed: what internal error?20:39
askandShould I marked the bugs that I have reported but now is solved as invalid?20:40
bdmurrayaskand: probably it depends on how you solved it20:42
askandbdmurray: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/106157 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/153734 ...for example..the second one I have already marked as invalid as I was the only one involved..but there were a lot more activity in the first bug so I did not know how to finish it really20:43
ubotuLaunchpad bug 106157 in linux-source-2.6.20 "Cannot connect with networkmanager in latest kernel" [Medium,Confirmed]20:43
blueyedafflux: :) "An internal server error occurred. Please try again later. (url: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-support/+bug/193632/+duplicate"20:44
ubotuLaunchpad bug 193632 in python-support "update-python-modules crashed with IOError in post_change_stuff() (dup-of: 189270)" [Undecided,New]20:44
ubotuLaunchpad bug 189270 in python-support "update-python-modules crashed with IOError in post_change_stuff()" [Undecided,New]20:44
blueyedafflux: http://pastebin.com/m60bfecc020:44
blueyedaskand: If they have been fixed, close them as "Fix released"20:45
askandblueyed: will do20:46
affluxblueyed: don't know, sounds very much like a temporary issue imho20:49
affluxblueyed: not sure if that's related: I've tested everything using my lp-beta-testers account20:49
blueyedafflux: I have a edge cookie, too, I suppose. Can you try "lp-mv-dupes -m 208961 --also-move-masterbugs 193632"?20:50
bdmurrayIf there is no clear indication as to what fixed the bug or what the root cause of the bug was Fix Released isn't really appropriate20:50
affluxblueyed: right, checking20:51
bdmurrayaskand: It'd be useful to know under what conditions bug 106157 is no longer present.  What version of the kernel?  What version of network-manager?20:51
askandbdmurray: In the hardy beta..dont know what version of kernel and nm is in there20:52
keescookhrm, my monitor has stopped power-saving.  where should I file that?  :P20:56
bdmurrayagainst the aprilfool package?20:57
secretlondonbdmurray: that bug was moved to being against ubuntu as it was claimed it was done by ubuntu not by launchpad20:59
secretlondonbdmurray: bug #185896721:00
secretlondonbdmurray: bug #18589721:00
ubotuLaunchpad bug 185897 in ubuntu "Bug reporting instuctions need humanising" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18589721:00
bdmurraysecretlondon: Right, those instructions exist in Launchpad but are controlled by the Ubuntu distribution but are not part of the operating system and that's why I don't think a bug in Launchpad is the right forum for that.21:01
secretlondonbdmurray: sure, I saw it as a bug on launchpad, on malone originally21:02
blueyedafflux: it worked for you?21:03
affluxblueyed: sry, forget the script, it took some time21:03
affluxblueyed: but worked, yes21:03
bdmurraysecretlondon: Okay, why did you bring it up?21:05
secretlondonjust because you just closed it, and I originally reported it21:05
secretlondonbut I agree it's 100% better now..21:05
bdmurrayOkay, great!  I've been tweaking them a fair bit.21:06
secretlondoncool :)21:07
blueyedafflux: Thanks for testing it, I'll try again later.. maybe my cookie's account is broken somehow..21:12
affluxblueyed: let me know when you found out21:12
blueyedDoes somebody now what may cause "ErrorMessage: package X is already installed and configured"? There are quite some of those bug reports for various packages, e.g. bug 20664521:13
ubotuLaunchpad bug 206645 in bash "package bash 3.2-0ubuntu15 failed to install/upgrade: package bash is already installed and configured" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20664521:13
jwendellpochu, around?21:23
andrea_c7aHi. I created a debdiff to fix bug #201330. Now I should look for a sponsor but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess is not very clear on how to do this. Shall I set it as "Fix Released" ? Why not "Fix Committed" ? Why "unsubscribe ubuntu-main-sponsors" ?21:33
ubotuLaunchpad bug 201330 in compiz "Need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20133021:33
txwikingerandrea_c7a: You should put the bug on confirmed and subscribe the correct sponsor list for the part of the repo21:38
txwikingeri.e. main for packages in main, and MOTU for universe21:39
txwikingerfor such question #ubuntu-motu is the better channel btw.21:39
andrea_c7aok but the bug relates to compiz which is in main. motu is for universe right ?21:40
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pochujwendell: hi, how are you?22:21
jwendellpochu, hi. fine, thanks22:21
jwendellpochu, I was going to ask you to reply that vinagre bug, but I already have done22:21
pochubug 208449?22:22
ubotuLaunchpad bug 208449 in vinagre "vinagre crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20844922:22
jwendellpochu, yep22:23
jwendellpochu, fortunately next gtk-vnc/vinagre will come with a debug framework, and will not be necessary to rebuild it anymore22:23
jwendellpochu, it will be enough to run 'vinagre --gtk-vnc-debug' to get debug output ;)22:24
pochujwendell: oh, that sounds so cool :)22:33
jwendellpochu, ask people to rebuild something is too hard22:34
pochujwendell: another option would be to ask the reporters to install a -dbgsym, but I guess that would be only useful for crashes22:34
pochuheh, indeed22:34
jwendellpochu, yes, we need a good backtrace + debug info22:34
pochufor the backtrace, the dbgsym would be useful... not sure for the debug output22:35
jwendellpochu, for debug, they have to rebuild gtk-vnc with --enable-debug in configure :P22:36
pochuright... I'll add a comment on the bug offering my help if they have issues with rebuilding it22:37
jwendellpochu, thanks22:38

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