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TheMusoevand: Ok from the discussion I had earlier with Mario, it seems the GUI in only-ubiquity is not dropping to the user because its conditional on environment variables that don't exist in only-ubiquity mode. I'm going to have a dig to see if I can come up with a sane fix.01:18
TheMusoArgh! Even on the official dailies, Orca is zombifying again!!04:14
evandah, SUDO_UID/GID don't exist when running in only-ubiquity mode.  I should've caught that.05:52
evandI'll work on a fix in a few minutes.05:52
TheMusoevand: Ok no problem.05:52
evandor have you already?05:52
TheMusoNot yet, just attempting to play around with some ideas, but with orca zombifying, even on the official daily, I'm kinda stuck.05:53
evandyeah, I haven't looked yet but it's odd that it started doing that again.  Nothing really changed there unless I somehow committed old code back to ubiquity-dm.05:54
TheMusoYeah it is odd.05:54
TheMusoThe log doesn't show such. I remember trying the daily after you added settings groups to ubiquity-dm, and things worked.05:55
TheMusorevision 258005:55
TheMusoHowever, changes in the surrounding environment can sometimes be enough to cause it to zombify.05:56
TheMusoThe next daily may be fine.05:56
evandonly another hour and a half until that.05:57
evandwell, two counting build time05:58
TheMusoYeah.05:58
evandis r2580 a typo?  Ubiquity doesn't have that many revisions yet.05:59
TheMusohe probably06:01
TheMusoNo its correct. I'm looking at ubiquity trunk.06:02
TheMusobrb06:02
evandcurious06:02
evandoh whoops, I was on the core-dev branch.06:03
TheMusohaha06:09
TheMusoI'm happy to simply grab the fix from bzr and test in a custom iso.06:10
evand(currently being stalled by my fight with m-a over capb escape, but I'll get the SUDO_* fix in as soon as I'm done here)07:54
TheMusono rush08:40
tjaaltonI can't find the installation guide from either doc.u.c or help.u.c...09:04
tjaalton7.10 doesn't have the link at all, and the dev version has a broken one09:04
tjaaltonhm, I'm taking a crack at fixing bug 64147.. seems silly that 16:10 screens are not natively supported10:46
LOWER_CASEHi, we have problems adding a 7.10 CD. Last two lines are E: Sub-process gpgv returned an error code (2)11:40
LOWER_CASEW: Signature verification failed for: /cdrom/dists/gutsy/Release.gpg11:40
LOWER_CASEWe already have 7.04 installed, along with latest updates, and we're just trying to 'add' the CD to the repository. Is that what we should be doing?11:42
CIA-25ubiquity: cjwatson * r2596 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog scripts/install.py):14:21
CIA-25ubiquity: * Remove packages in the restricted section from the installed system if14:21
CIA-25ubiquity:  apt-setup/restricted is false.14:21
evandIs modifying something in coreutils two weeks before release considered evil?  install when used with -D, -o and -g creates the directories as the user it's launched with, rather than the user specified in -o.14:29
CIA-25oem-config: cjwatson * r442 oem-config/ (debian/changelog finish-install.d/07oem-config-user): * Fix ownership of /home/oem/Desktop (LP: #209683).14:29
evandhahaha14:29
evandnevermind then :)14:29
* cjwatson laughs. Synchronicity14:29
cjwatsonI just made it do install -d separately14:30
cjwatsonsorry to step on your toes14:30
evandno worries at all14:30
cjwatsonI'm not sure whether it's a coreutils bug on not14:30
cjwatsonor not14:30
cjwatsonmaybe send mail to their bug list and ask?14:31
cjwatsonbug-coreutils@gnu.org14:31
evandyeah, I was wondering the same thing.  Will do.14:31
evandThanks14:31
cjwatsonevand: (I'd have left you to it except you unassigned yourself from the bug)14:33
CIA-25oem-config: cjwatson * r443 oem-config/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog):14:33
CIA-25oem-config: * Automatic update of included source packages: console-setup 1.21ubuntu5,14:33
CIA-25oem-config:  tzsetup 1:0.20.14:33
CIA-25oem-config: cjwatson * r444 oem-config/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.3314:35
CIA-25oem-config: cjwatson * r445 oem-config/ (configure configure.ac): bump to 1.3414:47
cr3_One of my pkgsel/include packages is returning unmet dependencies, is there a way I can get more information? I have DEBCONF_DEBUG=5, so I think I'm getting all the possible information in syslog. might it be possible to try to run a command from the busybox shell to try to reinstall the package and perhaps get more verbose output there?14:48
cjwatson'chroot /target apt-get install <packages>' should do14:49
evandcjwatson: before I embark on this task, any objection to me modifying debconf-set-selections to include an option to use the escape capability?  I can get m-a to work with spaces in the key name via escape, but wubi fails on debconf-set-selection as its not using the capability.14:49
cjwatsonspaces in the *key* name?14:49
cr3_cjwatson: ok, I tried in-target apt-get install <packages> and nothing was output14:49
cjwatsonurk14:49
cjwatsoncr3_: don't use in-target by hand14:49
cjwatsonevand: can we avoid using spaces in question names? I really don't think it's a good idea ...14:49
cr3_cjwatson: cheers man, I managed to get exactly what I needed to know with that chroot command14:50
evandcjwatson: I don't think I can remove the Windows username from the keys in question, so my options are to either use spaces or continue to replace them with a colon and have wubi carry that wart.  Would you prefer the latter?14:50
cjwatsonI think it's definitely preferable to replace them with something14:51
evandok, works for me.  I'll have Ago make the change and leave m-a as is.14:51
cjwatson   So, what do we need to store in a variable template? Of course we need a14:51
cjwatson   name to identify the template. Template names are made up of components14:51
cjwatson   separated by the character `/' (slash). Each component is limited to14:51
cjwatson   alphanumerics and `+' `-' `.' (plus, minus, full stop).14:52
cjwatson/usr/share/doc/debian-policy/debconf_specification.txt.gz14:52
cjwatsonin fact many templates also use _14:52
cjwatsonhmm, I feel a policy bug coming up; but in any case I think spaces are right out :)14:52
evandI can't use _ as it's a valid username character in Windows iirc.14:52
evandheh14:52
evandso you think it should be allowed in the future or explicitly disallowed?14:53
cjwatson_ should be allowed; space should be disallowed14:53
evandah14:53
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superm1evand, did you get a chance to follow up on the copying of the locales to the destination install?15:07
evandsuperm1: debian-installer/locale not getting copied when using oem-config?15:10
superm1yeah15:10
evandr2594 in ubiquity15:11
superm1ah great.  I hadn't updated my local bzr in a few days15:12
evandas always, let me know if you come across any other issues15:14
superm1well the other thing that came to mind - currently that last step, where is calculates packages to remove - it takes forever on the dvd image.  I'm guessing because so much is preinstalled in that live fs?15:22
evandthat would be my guess as well15:24
superm1probably not for this 8.04 time frame, but for 8.10, maybe something to allow seeding the exact packages to remove instead of calculating them could be an improvement15:26
evandhrmm, that sounds fragile.  But I'm sure we can profile that phase of the install for Intrepid15:27
evandprofile and optimize*15:27
superm1yeah that's what i was thinking15:27
cjwatsonevand: bug 203292 is obsolete now, isn't it?15:33
ubotuLaunchpad bug 203292 in oem-config "Freeze exception: zoommap changes port to oem-config" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20329215:33
evandindeed, marked as fixed15:34
evandthanks for catching that15:34
CIA-25choose-mirror: cjwatson * r585 ubuntu/ (Mirrors.masterlist.ubuntu choose-mirror.c debian/changelog): * Use ports.ubuntu.com for all countries (LP: #176672).16:31
CIA-25migration-assistant: evand * r74 migration-assistant/ (debian/changelog ma-apply ma-ask):16:39
CIA-25migration-assistant: * Use + instead of : for a replacement character as it is explicitly16:39
CIA-25migration-assistant:  allowed by debconf policy.16:39
CIA-25choose-mirror: cjwatson * r586 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.19ubuntu416:40
CIA-25ubiquity: evand * r2597 ubiquity/ (3 files in 3 dirs):16:51
CIA-25ubiquity: * Use + instead of : for a replacement character for m-a as it is16:51
CIA-25ubiquity:  explicitly allowed by debconf policy.16:51
cr3at what point in the preseed file could I prepare the pre-pkgsel.d directory?16:58
cr3I guess preseed/early_command would be appropriate16:58
cjwatsonyes17:02
cr3after /target/etc/apt/sources.list.apt-setup is moved to /target/etc/apt/sources.list, should I run apt-get update? if so, in-target or chroot if running from a script under pre-pkgsel.d?17:04
cjwatsonpkgsel should take care of that17:05
cr3would it make sense to wget a udeb in the early_command and install that? could this be cleaner in the long term than either building a script in early_command or wgeting a script?17:13
cjwatsonthat can work, but why not use anna/choose_modules=<udeb name>?17:16
cjwatsonoh, well, only if the udeb in question was in the Ubuntu archive17:16
cr3cjwatson: I could specify it under local0, that wouldn't it. the content of the udeb would then generate a script under pre-pkgsel.d to do the sources.list thing17:17
cr3err, "that would do it"17:17
cjwatsonnot for udebs, no17:17
cjwatsonwget and udpkg -i is probably better17:18
cr3cjwatson: excellent, thanks, you're saving me lots of trial and error time :)17:18
mario_limonciellfor only-ubiquity and oem-config, I think it might be sensible to disable the minimize action17:42
mario_limonciellpeople might get a bit confused if they accidentally minimize it and don't know how to get it back17:43
evandalready done for ubiquity17:44
mario_limonciellah good17:44
mario_limonciellevand, would you be opposed to adding a setterm -blank 0 to ubiquity's init script? setterm isn't available in the initramfs, but it is in the live filesystem18:04
evandnot at all18:05
mario_limonciellokay i'll add it in18:05
evandmuch appreciated18:07
CIA-25ubiquity: superm1 * r2598 ubiquity/debian/ (changelog init): disable console blanking in Ubiquity init script18:09
CIA-24oem-config: evand * r446 oem-config/ (3 files in 3 dirs): * Port hiding the minimize button on the main window from Ubiquity.19:11
mariodebianHi, I need help preseeding ubiquity21:36
mariodebiansomeone alive?21:37
CIA-24console-setup: cjwatson * r63 ubuntu/ (Keyboard/ckbcomp debian/changelog): * Handle some special cases for the KPDL key (LP: #189529).21:42
cjwatsonmariodebian: about to go and spend time with my wife, but please ask your question and somebody will get back to you when they're around21:43
mariodebianI ask in mailing list last week21:43
evandindeed, I'm here21:43
mariodebianI will aks today again, thanks !!!21:43
mariodebianevands, can you have some time now?21:44
evandsure21:44
mariodebianoks21:44
mariodebianI don't speak English very well but I try to explain better I can21:44
cjwatsonI don't see a mail from you on ubuntu-installer@21:45
cjwatsonperhaps you asked on some other list21:45
mariodebianhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-installer/2008-March/000171.html21:45
mariodebianbetter read this mail21:46
evandah, I missed that21:48
evandreplying now21:48
mariodebianthanks ;)21:48
mariodebiananother questin appending this mail21:55
mariodebiani have preseed some values but some text on ubiquity appears in English and some in Spanish21:55
mariodebianfor example summary text is in english and some parted strings21:56
mariodebianubiquity.template is full translated21:56
mario_limonciellevand, perusing components/console-setup.py, it appears the proper way to preseed a keyboard is not console-setup/layout and console-setup/variant, but rather console-setup/layoutcode and console-setup/variantcode correct?22:03
cr3I'm installing packages from pkgsel/include and getting the error: The following packages cannot be authenticated!22:10
cr3the reason is that I created the file /target/etc/apt/sources.list.apt-setup containing my own repository which is somehow not authenticated22:11
cr3I guess I need to find a way to authenticate it by retrieving the key file on my site22:11
evandmario_limonciell: correct, but I'm investigating why preseeding those isn't working for ubiquity.22:14
mario_limoncielloh it's not working :S.  I wasn't sure :)22:15
evandmariodebian: I have to run out for a few hours, I'll finish responding to this when I get back22:24
mariodebianoks thanks22:24
cjwatsoncr3: there's apt-setup/local0/key or some such22:51
cjwatsonwas documented in the installation guide last I checked22:51
cr3cjwatson: yeah, that's what I used to do, but now I seem to need to run apt-key because the repository is defined in sources.list.apt-setup by a pre-pkgsel.d script. no worries, I should have confirmation shortly if it worked.22:52
cr3cjwatson: worked like a charm!23:17

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