=== TheGuru is now known as Cybermatt [00:33] hmm i dont understand the response to Bug 204496 [00:34] bug 204496 [00:34] ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/204496 ) [00:34] i thought the patch was suppoesd to be for the current version [00:36] xtknight: is the version in hardy broken? (2.x) [00:36] blueyed, i haven't checked [00:36] should i run the hardy version on gutsy? [00:38] ok ... i think i understand. they are trying to get me to report the problem if exists in the development version. but im still providing a patch for gutsy right? [00:38] xtknight: I think it's fixed, at least the interface changed (there's no "Help" menu, but only a button an it works) [00:38] xtknight: right. [00:38] For Gutsy you'll need a SRU, as Daniel pointed out. [00:40] k [00:40] xtknight: I think the bug should get closed and if you want to fix it for Gutsy (which is cumbersome), "Nominate [it] for release". I don't think it's critical enough though. [00:40] blueyed, what release would i be nominating it for? it's fixed in hardy right (well, assuming it is)? [00:41] xtknight: gutsy [00:41] xtknight: but please read the wiki page posted by Daniel first. [00:41] some other release of gutsy? [00:43] oh nominate for release places it in backports then... [00:47] no, backports are separate from release nominations [00:47] "nominate for release" -> SRU [00:47] ... which means, if the change doesn't fit the SRU policy, it will be declined [00:48] i guess i don't understand what "nominate for release" does on gutsy since gutsy has already been released. [00:49] xtknight: you'll nominate it for gutsy-updates [00:49] ok i guess i was misreading it. i thought there would be some new release or sometihng. i'm nominating it for an existing release.. [00:52] now, it states to set hardy's bug report to Fix Released (if the bug does not exist in hardy). hardy doesn't have a bug, so i didnt file a bug report for it. does that mean i need to create a bug, or somehow set my current bug to Gutsy only? [00:54] on this page ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates ) [00:54] xtknight: you would close the existing bug and if the SRU for Gutsy gets approved, a new bug task for Gutsy appears. [00:55] xtknight: any bugs you file are implicitly shown as affecting the current development release. So you should mark the bug as 'fix released' to indicate hardy has the bugfix, then nominate the bug for an SRU via 'nominate for release' [00:55] by close you mean set Bug 204496 to Fix Released? [00:55] hmm [00:55] ok [00:56] i see. so the bug represents the latest dev version more than anything else [00:56] in the whole continuum of things [00:58] is anyone around to check an upload for me? === LjL-Temp is now known as LjL [01:02] Fujitsu: no features added in the new upstream version for bug #208993? [01:10] how do i upload a package to release-proposed? [01:10] heya people [01:15] i already put gutsy-proposed in the changelog [01:16] xtknight: subscribe motu-sru and add Test case [01:17] emgent, ah ok. [01:18] thx [01:18] i mean step number 4 on procedures here. it sounds like im supposed to uplpoad something to an ftp or something. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates [01:19] slangasek: thanks for turba2 [01:19] because the earlier tests already said subscribe and add test cae? [01:19] case* [01:19] earlier steps* [01:27] emgent: no worries [01:49] slangasek: There's a FFe linked. [01:49] Fujitsu: why, so there is [01:50] Fujitsu: I'm used to seeing a single bug for the FFe and the sync request... more efficient on the submitter's side anyway, now you have a stray bug sitting open ;) [01:51] slangasek: Ah. Not any more. === Allan_ is now known as Hit3k [01:53] heya Fujitsu :) [01:55] Hi emgent. [01:55] * Fujitsu disappears for lunh. [01:55] *lunch [01:59] :) [02:12] Heya gang [02:13] Howbidie bddebian [02:14] Hi RAOF [02:58] I'm trying to build a package to do a debdiff. What is it I have to do between introducing my new patch to debian/patches and running debuild -uc -us -S ? I thought I used to know this... [02:58] It fails because "distclean" isn't a make target. [03:00] marnanel: That sounds like a bug in the package. Does it build in Hardy? [03:01] I thought it did, but I will try again [03:03] What package? [03:04] gnome-alsamixer [03:04] make[2]: *** No rule to make target `gnome-alsamixer.schemas', needed by `all-am'. Stop. [03:04] But it does compile and link the binary, so I can *test* it [03:05] Okay, and having got that far, debuild is okay [03:05] so I can actually make the debdiff [03:05] and test it [03:06] even if I can't actually do a full make [03:06] yes, rigorously engineered work going on tonight folks [03:41] may someone clarify exactly what i need to do in step four under Procedures here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/204496 [03:41] sorry, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates [04:02] apologies in advance for my contributions to April 1st. [04:02] :D [04:30] jdong: I see you got the bug reference right. [04:31] Fujitsu: that's just about the only thing that was right in that package :) [04:31] Fujitsu: I called make with nested sudos in rules too :) [04:34] Hah, left *.ex in, I see. [04:34] Kwality packaging. [04:34] all of em :) === evalles is now known as effie_jayx [04:43] now.... who can spoof Accepted e-mails? [04:48] jdong: I'm sure you can work it out. [04:58] jdong: shame you had to announce that you'd done something for april 1 [04:59] ajmitch: did it ruin the surprise factor for you? [04:59] well I looked at irc before I read my mail [05:00] 'essential', a nice touch there :) [05:00] :) [05:00] I almost contemplated Conflicts/Replaces: on update-manager and synaptic [05:01] * ajmitch petitions the MC for revokation of upload rights [05:02] lol [05:04] nice, even the .pyc files [05:05] ajmitch: lol I just unpacked upstream's deb, that's all unintentional :D [05:05] (other than calling make with sudo in rules) [05:05] jdong: Did you do anything more than dh_make? [05:05] Oh, didn't notice that. [05:05] Very good. [05:05] That'll build well. [05:07] jdong: You're evil [05:07] quick, where's an archive admin to accept it? [05:07] :D [05:07] Hah [05:12] jdong: You should have set the release as gutsy-updates [05:12] :-P [05:13] StevenK: hah [05:14] well looks like it worked on Kees [05:15] it was a good few seconds of confusion. I enjoyed it. :) [05:38] jdong: automatix... please explain? [05:39] And... the package desc is missing a description. [05:39] TheMuso: calendar [05:39] jdong: It would have been nice to see that at a glance from a package description, but you left the template there. [05:39] But it can't be obvious [05:39] That's the whole point [05:40] jdong: totally classic! [05:41] :D [05:41] ajmitch: To bad the MC's been dithering and we don't actually have a firing policy yet. [05:41] shush [05:41] before we fire you! [05:42] You need the Tech Board to fire me now ... [05:42] remember, LP is closed source, so they haven't found all of the security issues yet..now if it were open, you might be a tad bit safer :p [05:43] nixternal: it'd take you 6 months to fire him [05:43] probably more [05:44] * nixternal wonders what happens when you pull "Ubuntu Membership" [05:44] wonder if that causes all of the other memberships to collapse [05:44] nixternal: It doesn't. [05:44] damn [05:44] ;p === twanj_ is now known as twanj [06:04] Fujitsu: pingaloo [06:10] LaserJock: Evening. [06:10] Fujitsu: have you looked at bug #194687 at all? [06:11] I think it is a -security issue [06:11] It is -security. [06:11] As it was broken in -security. [06:11] Was it not? [06:12] emgent was right to subscribe ubuntu-security in the first place. [06:13] Note to self: Do not make all your libdb database updates on the Hardy box in 4.6 and then copy the database onto the Gutsy box that's using 4.5. [06:14] Fujitsu: right, so that doesn't need MOTU SRU correct? [06:15] LaserJock: correct. [06:16] Fujitsu: is it worth having a gutsy task for that? I can accept emgent's nomination if so [06:18] LaserJock: We should have a task for Gutsy. I've just accepted it. [06:18] he said it's fixed in hardy so might as well to be accurate [06:18] Oooh, I like edge's release nomination stuff. [06:18] No extra page loads for approving nominations. [06:18] yeah [06:18] wish there was more of that [06:19] I often do that for 5 releases, so it's a big thing for me. [06:24] you mean launchpad is going web 2.0? [06:24] that reminds me, i need to get them to change someone's name [06:24] someone named themselves 'Compiz' [06:24] does web 2.0 mean waiting a long time and putting in CAPTCHAs for everything? [06:25] If Web 2.0 == CAPTCHAs, count me out [06:25] I'm trying to decide if I want the launchpad guys to change the name or wait for the bug triage guys to assign all bugs to that guy [06:26] Amaranth: reverse spam sounds more appropriate === Allan_ is now known as Hit3k === \sh_away is now known as \sh [07:35] <\sh> moins [07:36] <\sh> jdong: you suck...you gave me just a heart stroke this morning with your automatix upload and fixing bug #1 [07:36] <\sh> jdong: ;) [07:44] now would it be a better follow-up joke for me to accept it... [07:47] <\sh> slangasek: well, let sabdfl push the button so it looks like that it was "gods" fault ;-) [07:47] He filed the bug, it's only fair he accepts the upload that fixes it :) [07:54] good morning [07:54] hi [07:54] hey ajmitch [07:54] how are you doing? [07:54] alright, how are you? [07:55] good, thanks [07:56] good to hear :) [07:57] <\sh> hey....old man ajmitch :) [07:58] * ajmitch is feeling old after days like today [07:58] first day of client testing for a big upgrade at work [07:58] <\sh> well, yeah....I request the deletion of the MOTU team...jdong just fixed the world and everything..so it's nothing left to do for us... [07:59] great [08:00] didn't anyone suggest to the TB that ubuntu switch to using fedora as a base rather than debian? === fabo_ is now known as fabo [08:02] Yggadrasil would make a much better base than debian [08:02] <\sh> ajmitch: I think we should switch to BSD [08:03] true [08:03] Redhat 5 wouldn't be a bad choice [08:04] Surely it's time GNU Herd got a major distro based off it, right? [08:04] s/herd/hurd/ [08:04] bddebian would be overjoyed [08:04] <\sh> milli: na rhel was forked by centos... [08:04] <\sh> BSD is the better choice...we could even get aqua for free from apple ;) [08:05] Ubunherd === doko_ is now known as doko [08:08] <\sh> UBunSD ,-> [08:09] Or perhaps DOS 5.x as a base. [08:09] Oh wait a sec. That's been done already. [08:15] <\sh> oh well... [08:16] <\sh> mithrandir changed his job, too :( [08:55] Good morning === cprov is now known as cprov-afk [09:14] Is there an admin of u-u-s that may add me to the team, please? === cprov-afk is now known as cprov [09:33] warp10: done [09:33] dholbach: great! thank you! [09:33] anytime :) === asac_ is now known as asac === asac_ is now known as asac [11:33] jdong: ahem [11:46] Riddell: ACCEPTED? [11:47] hmmmm === Ibalon is now known as zakame [12:06] Riddell, leave it in for today :) [12:06] (and notice the date) [12:08] <\sh> lol [12:08] <\sh> Riddell: read my blog ,-) [12:09] \sh: why, is this phpgroupware thing also a joke? [12:09] <\sh> Riddell: nope [12:09] \sh: oh, so I shouldn't have rejected it? [12:09] <\sh> Riddell: but automatix definitely fix bug #1 ,-> you should push it to the archives...or leave Mark the honour ;) [12:09] Launchpad bug 1 in ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 [12:10] ah well, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-archive/2008-April/017142.html [12:10] <\sh> actually it made my day :) [12:11] <\sh> first I got a heart stroke this morning..and then I realized, it's time to wakeup [12:17] New Queue Zero! I'm a genius. [12:18] <\sh> wait...I'll upload new crap ,-) [12:20] \sh, it would have been a lot funnier if you hadnt revealed the joke already on planet [12:21] we should have slashdotted it indeed *g* [12:23] I've a package with debian/control.in and want to change the maintainer as in the DebianMaintainerField. Do I need to change both control and control.in? [12:24] afflux: Most likely. [12:24] afflux: If it's done sanely you should find that you only need to change control.in and control will be updated automatically.# [12:24] but both will show up on the debdiff, right? [12:24] yes [12:25] alright, thanks [12:29] dholbach: new debdiff attached to bug 186141. btw. juliux suggested you could have your bugs counted under ubuntu-de-locoteam :) [12:29] Launchpad bug 186141 in nautilus-actions "missing nautilus-actions menu entries" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186141 === neversfelde_ is now known as neversfelde [12:33] <\sh> ogra_cmpc: tbh...riddles on dot.kde.org is better ,-> [12:33] <\sh> just because it's from the 31.03 ;) [12:36] \sh: I can't be held responsible for the dot's timezone [12:43] <\sh> Riddell: but it's good :) [12:43] <\sh> 3,737,000 5.15K/s [12:43] <\sh> wow...wireshark is dead ;) [12:44] dead? [12:45] <\sh> well, everything which is under 10k is dead ;) === bigon` is now known as bigon [12:51] Oh, their *website*? [12:52] dholbach: i thought comments like https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/transmission/+bug/208836/comments/7 were supposed to go away? [12:52] Launchpad bug 208836 in transmission "Feature Freeze Exception request for Transmission 1.10" [Wishlist,Incomplete] [12:55] jdong: would you prefer to be blasted on irc, or on the mailing list? [12:59] Hobbsee, happy first of april :) [12:59] oh, sod it. [12:59] * Hobbsee forgot! [12:59] *grin* [12:59] * ogra_cmpc_ hugs jdong [13:00] thats one of the best april fool okes i've seen in years [13:00] *jokes [13:00] * Hobbsee beats jdong [13:01] still, having the savage pleasure of rejecting it might have been nice.... [13:02] is it rejected already ? [13:02] yes [13:02] gah .... the archive team really should have been notified in advance to keep it for today [13:03] it's 11pm on 1/4 [13:03] for you [13:03] its 2pm here [13:03] * Hobbsee is reminded of the monty python "Just kill him anyway" [13:05] Heya [13:06] * Hobbsee reads the MC meeting minutes [13:06] hope they're not april fools too [13:07] s/irc council/ Hobbsee/ though, i'm the chanowner. === neversfelde_ is now known as neversfelde [13:11] * cody-somerville nods. [13:13] (in effect though, for anything motu-related, they'd delegate it to me as i'm the person here, so it really makes no difference though) [13:17] Hobbsee: The irc council has the final word, though, don't they? (I've little or no clue about our irc governance) [13:18] I would hope control (ie. final say) of the channel would stay with the -motu team. [13:21] soren: not if they delegated it to me, no. Although, from freenode POV, yes, they do. [13:22] I see. [13:22] oh wait. does the GC trump the chanown? [13:22] * Hobbsee asks [13:24] yes, it does, i'm told. [13:24] soren: so, the council has the final word. [13:25] but i think it's required that they have to discuss changes with me, being the chanown, assuming i've not gone backpacking to another country, or something. [13:25] Hobbsee: gc? [13:26] soren: group contact. ie, irc council. it's a freenode thing. [13:26] Hobbsee: Ah. [13:44] I refuse to read slashdot on the first of apirl [13:45] zul: so read the forums instead! [13:46] * Hobbsee glances at it [13:46] it's not pink this year! [13:49] Hey, I need a motu-release ACK for bug #210215 [13:49] Launchpad bug 210215 in aria2 "Please sync aria2 0.12.1-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/210215 [13:49] Hobbsee: sure make me gouge out my eyesockets [13:49] haha [13:49] ow... === TeTeT_ is now known as TeTeT === _jason is now known as jrib [15:15] lol morning everyone :D [15:16] <\sh> jdong: hehe... [15:16] morning crack lover. [15:16] lol [15:16] sorry, couldn't resist :D [15:17] * Hobbsee had talked about doing that at UDS, actually - but not for april fools [15:21] jdong, so what about a backport ? [15:21] feisty and gutsy users will want it as well :) [15:21] lol indeed :D [16:08] bug 210292 [16:08] Launchpad bug 210292 in gutsy-backports "Please Backport Hardy Heron to Gutsy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/210292 [16:09] jdong: i'm uploading it to my ppa ;) just wiat a few days [16:09] *wait [16:10] jeromeg: we may need a source change backport so that LSB release version is 8.04~gutsy1 [16:11] jdong: i'll investigate this :) === \sh is now known as \sh_away [16:39] a good fool's day (or night) to all === \sh_away is now known as \sh === ivoks_ is now known as ivoks [16:43] <\sh> rotflbtc [16:43] <\sh> anyone read http://blog.drinsama.de/erich/en/linux/debian/2008040101-renaming-directories.html from erich schubert? [16:44] \sh: afternoon :)) [16:44] <\sh> hey jpatrick [16:46] \sh: I forgot the name of the distro that did that.. [16:48] GoboLinux [16:49] ah yeah: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GoboLinux [16:49] Madness. [16:51] <\sh> jpatrick: well, but "Ubuntu X" ,-) and the idea never came from the famous sabdfl ;) [16:52] <\sh> jpatrick: and the idea is horrible....;) /system/Administrator -> well...it's my job title ;) [16:52] \sh: I think we'll have time to implement it, seeing as Hardy is being delayed for 3 months (#ubuntu /topic) [16:58] <\sh> jpatrick: right ;) [16:59] <\sh> ok...time to leave for home :) [16:59] <\sh> cu later === \sh is now known as \sh_away [17:37] RainCT: ping [17:38] I'm trying to debuild a package which has a patch added in debian/patches, but after I debuild -S -uc -s, debdiff just shows the changelog entry. [17:43] Is there something I should do to get the patch included in the source package that I'm not already doing? [17:43] marnanel: no [17:50] marnanel: hi, do you run "debuild -S -uc -s" [17:50] that last -s looks suspicious, I think you want -us [17:54] Oh, I'm sorry, I put "debuild -S -us -uc", actually [17:54] * marnanel tries it again [17:55] marnanel: and check the output for messages about not including the file in the diff [17:55] for instance it won't include files it thinks are binary. [17:58] debuild -S -sa -uc -us [18:05] afternoon mok0, or should I say, Master mok0? [18:05] norsetto: afternoon! :-) The Master part is a bit premature [18:06] mok0: yes, timing was never my strong point either ;-) [18:06] Hehe, april 1st, yes... [18:06] mok0: I must say I'll be glad to pass the GrandDad title to somebody else :) [18:07] Ah, but isnt't it good to be a wise, old MOTU? [18:08] Like Yoda, even though he is 300 years old, he kicks ass! :-) [18:08] mok0: the older the kickier usually [18:08] hehehe [18:09] norsetto:btw, the gfortran transition seems to be almost done... [18:09] mok0: I sure hope so! [18:09] I am impressed, it went really fast [18:10] mok0: actually, only things left is the removal of some packages and that should be it [18:10] Why removal? [18:10] mok0: heck, the biggest work was done by the good folks in Debian [18:10] true [18:14] is it me or launchpad is getting slower and slower [18:18] norsetto: LP -.- [18:22] Heya [18:23] norsetto: btw, looked at my FFe for monodevelop? [18:23] sebner: no time yet [18:24] norsetto: k, np [18:24] mok0: pong [18:26] dpkg-genchages reported that it wasn't including source, until I added the -sa switch (thanks, mok0), but that still didn't change debdiff not showing the new file [18:26] Oh wait [18:26] "No rule to make target 'distclean'", way back in the scrollback [18:27] I thought that happened the other day; I wonder how it can do a regular make if it can't distclean [18:28] marnanel: is the debian/rules calling distclean? [18:29] james_w: the word "distclean" does not exist in debian/rules. Where should it be? [18:31] marnanel: I don't know, what's trying to execute it then? [18:31] oh, I see [18:31] Hang on, running again and watching carefully [18:32] if you want you can pastebin the output and we can have a look. [18:32] Hi all [18:32] I'm sure you can spot it, but sometimes you just want to get it done. [18:32] hoi warp10 our newest motu :P [18:33] Thanks :) I'm sure it's something obvious but I can't see it. Hang on, pastebin coming up. [18:33] hi warp10, gratz [18:33] warp10: congrats. [18:33] hey sebner :) [18:33] congrats warpie [18:33] RainCT, marnanel: thank you! :) [18:33] ops, congrats master warpie ... [18:34] http://pastebin.ca/966306 === fta_ is now known as fta [18:35] ciao norsetto, thank you :D [18:48] sebner: I think tomorrow or day after we should have a conky package source ready for the FFe [18:49] norsetto: in sid? [18:49] sebner: no, in the svn. It will take longer for it to be in the archive [18:50] james_w: any ideas? I'm stuck, for now. I'll have another look when I get home :/ [18:50] norsetto: ah. ok. btw. I never had anything to do with these svn repos. any links, docs for me? [18:50] marnanel: ah, sorry, missed it at first [18:50] Wow. That April fool's joke was nice. :-) [18:51] jdong: Thanks for the entertainment. :-) [18:51] ;-) [18:51] sebner: just install svn (if you don't have it already) and do an svn co address destination and it will create a local copy [18:51] norsetto: yeah. I know that ^^ but in generel for ubuntu related things [18:51] marnanel: Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /usr/bin/dpkg-source line 429. looks a little odd [18:52] sebner: what related things!? [18:52] marnanel: CFLAGS="-UG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -UGDK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -UGTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -UGNOME_DISABLE_DEPRECATED" /usr/bin/make -C . -k distclean is what calls it [18:52] norsetto: ah sry. misunderstood something. btw conky 1.5.1 is out [18:53] sebner: yes, thats what we packaged [18:53] norsetto: fine :D [18:54] jdong, what was the joke?, i missed it :( [18:54] marnanel: it's a cdbs package, so it's probably one of the included makefile snippets that calls it. [18:54] Does anyone know how the new archive backend in gvfs works? How to make use of it? [18:54] mario_limonciell: Check motu mailing list archives [18:55] james_w: ah, weird. [18:55] mario_limonciell: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2008-April/thread.html [18:55] ha! [18:55] very nice. === Seveaz is now known as Seveas [18:57] * marnanel will look at this tonight; I should be working now, and it's beyond what I know how to fix trivially [19:01] Heya gang [19:01] heya bddebian [19:02] Heya bddebian [19:02] Hi norsetto, cody-somerville [19:03] heya bddebian [19:03] Hi sebner [19:06] * norsetto -> dinner [19:06] you mean dinner -> norsetto [19:15] Is Hardy going to be delayed by three months? [19:16] Uhhmm, is this a joke? [19:22] Yeah. [19:24] Ah ha, thought so :) [19:25] Well, I shouldn't ask that question anyway. [19:25] Iulian: franly you shouldn't read any blogs, news sites on 1st April :-P [19:26] slytherin: Yeah indeed. [19:27] neither hardy-changes :P [19:29] DktrKranz: Which mail are you referring to? [19:29] DktrKranz: I thought only motu list was affected by 1st April [19:29] slytherin, God save NEW queue :) [19:29] :-D [19:34] http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1304 [19:54] how goeth greyskull today? [19:55] * norsetto <- dinner [20:46] * pochu wishes mok0 good luck with his MOTU application, so that he can upload his stuff himself ;) [20:46] mok0: not that you need it though... :) [20:47] * mok0 thanks pochu :-) [20:47] mok0: I don't feel very comfortable uploading xtide. It looks fine, but it's a bit late and I don't know it [20:48] but hopefully you will be able to upload it on your behalf very soon :) [20:48] pochu: that ok, I can ask norsetto or one of the guys who have looked at it before [20:49] pochu: I just want to get it off my list :-) [20:49] * norsetto thinks mok0 will soon make his furst upload [20:50] norsetto: I think I will just wait and see [20:51] norsetto: If I'm not able to upload before the 23. I'll ping you :-) [20:52] mok0: wait and see .... [20:52] mok0: what's on the 23ten? [20:52] 23 th [20:52] sebner: last day before hardy release :-) [20:53] mok0: I know but why aren't you able to upload before this day? [20:53] sebner: because I am not a MOTU [20:53] mok0: but on 23th you become one? [20:53] sebner: but hope to be soon [20:53] mok0: ^^. I will follow you in some months :D [20:54] sebner: lol [20:54] heya [20:56] hi emgent [21:07] pochu: you are ff crazy guy, right? [21:09] sebner: lol, yes I am :) [21:10] pochu: ff 3.0 beta5 is out. /me waves :D [21:10] I love exceptions ;) [21:10] pochu: ff = firefox [21:10] ^^ [21:10] well, I'm not a mozilla guy... tell fta, but he's likely aware :) [21:10] sebner: officialy Fx but well :P [21:10] RainCT: never heard about Fx for firefox ^^ [21:11] try: upload_package() [21:11] learned that in spreadfirefox.com (and it's explained on firefox.com's FAQ iirc) :P [21:11] except FeatureFreezeException: request_exception() [21:11] :) [21:11] hrhr [21:11] beta5 out ? i don't think so; it's still in QA [21:11] RainCT: well in german it's common to say ff [21:12] sebner: everywhere I know actually :) [21:12] ^^ [21:13] fta: not offical I suppose ^^ ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/3.0b5/linux-i686/ [21:14] yes, but that's just b5 rc2 for now [21:14] http://en-us.www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.0b5/releasenotes/ [21:15] and if you run it, you'll get: http://en-us.www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.0b5/whatsnew/ [21:15]