[00:18] <[ka]killer> sorry =/ was just kidding
[00:18] <LjL> [ka]killer, that's no kidding matters, people actually go and type those commands
[00:18] <LjL> and then we're left trying to fix their broken systems
[00:18] <LjL> please never give dangerous commands in a support channel
[00:18] <[ka]killer> trust me i know -_- im the one my entire family comes ot
[00:18] <[ka]killer> i wont
[00:19] <[ka]killer> and i want  to kill this keyboard >_<
[00:19] <LjL> you can rejoin
[00:19] <[ka]killer> thanks
[00:19] <LjL> GAH
[00:20] <LjL> i've remade the entire ubotwo crap from scratch, and it's STILL DOING IT
[04:57] <jdong> can someone join a working ubot* to #bzr?
[06:07] <Amaranth> jdong: wth, you uploaded automatix?
[06:07] <Amaranth> i hope you let the archive admins know ahead of time that it was a joke
[06:07] <jdong> Amaranth: it should be blatantly obvious
[06:08] <Amaranth> with you one never knows :)
[06:08] <jdong> :)
[06:08] <Amaranth> even considering the day :P
[06:15] <Amaranth> jdong: i pointed the automatix guy to it
[06:15] <Amaranth> first he thought it was a joke, then i gave him a link to the ubuntu-motu post, then he thought it was real, then i got to tease him about it :P
[06:16] <Amaranth> then he signed off
[06:16] <jdong> Amaranth: lol
[06:19] <nikrud> some peoples sense of humor :)
[06:52] <nikrud> since seveas's machine is down, could someone update the topic in ubuntu to point to paste.ubuntu.com for now?
[07:03] <nalioth> nikrud: can't you?
[07:03] <nikrud> nalioth heh. probably could, now that you mention it
[09:08] <hk2991> hi. i was banned from ubuntu-offtopic a few months ago by a moderator with a username Pici, can I be unbanned now?
[10:15] <Seveas`wrk> ubotu is on its way back
[10:16] <Seveas`wrk> hmm, retract that
[10:16] <Seveas`wrk> it's now segfaulting
[10:16] <Seveas`wrk> ah well, will take some more hours :)
[11:00] <Seveaz> it's now really coming back
[11:00] <Seveaz> don;t know if the bantracker is functioning, but other bits are
[11:11] <jussio1> :)
[12:04] <Seveaz> hmm
[12:04] <Seveaz> why is it still not here...
[12:43]  * PriceChild points to ubuntuforums.org
[12:47] <Seveas> ah, the bot IS here
[12:47] <Seveas> mibbit just didn't show it
[12:47] <Pici> Its been here for over an hour...
[12:47] <Seveas> PriceChild, what's up with forums?
[12:47] <Seveas> !ping
[12:47] <ubotu> ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore
[12:48] <Seveas> anyway, bothost now runs hardy. The bootfailure was "interesting"
[12:48] <PriceChild> Seveas: go look lazy
[12:48] <Seveas> PriceChild, ah, april fools?
[12:49] <PriceChild> Of course not.
[12:49] <Seveas> april vomit
[12:49] <Seveas> 'orrible colors mate
[12:49] <PriceChild> The new colour scheme has been introduced after *hours* of painstaking usability testing.
[12:50] <PriceChild> I'm told the next stage in the 5 step plan - the reinstatement of the pink pony logo - will take place very soon.
[12:50] <Seveas> The only thing I believe about that is "pain"
[12:50] <Pici> Oh how I wish I was colorblind
[12:50] <tonyyarusso> PriceChild: why not just make the whole thing pink on fuschia?
[12:51] <PriceChild> tonyyarusso: I didn't do it
[12:51] <PriceChild> I'm trying to find a picture of what it was like a couple of years ago.
[12:54] <Seveaz> grandpa :p
[12:56] <Seveas> hmm
[12:56] <Seveas> I'm going to repeat my april fools from a few years back
[12:56] <PriceChild> nalioth: doko is in -irc claiming -java is used and whatever happenned was a one-off
[12:57] <tonyyarusso> Seveas: change ubotu's nick to pony, and make @pony say No, you can't have an ubotu! ?
[12:58] <PriceChild> Doko is someone important isn't he?
[12:58] <PriceChild> launchpad says he is...
[12:58] <Gary> PriceChild: eeew, even I think ubuntuforums looks rough, well done \o/
[12:59] <Seveaz> PriceChild: he is
[12:59] <PriceChild> I will re-open it for him.
[12:59] <Seveaz> he's the java master
[13:02] <tonyyarusso> bahahahahahahaha
[13:02] <tonyyarusso> Hobbsee took the automatix thing hook line and sinker
[13:02] <tonyyarusso> :P
[13:02] <PriceChild> tonyyarusso: where?
[13:03] <tonyyarusso> PriceChild: motu mailing list
[13:03] <Gary> tonyyarusso: linky?
[13:03] <tonyyarusso> maybe?  wonder how quickly they get archived
[13:04] <Pici> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HippyHorse/Omega/Kubuntu    
[13:04]  * Hobbsee beats tonyyarusso
[13:04] <tonyyarusso> PriceChild, Gary: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2008-April/003510.html
[13:04] <PriceChild> haha
[13:04] <PriceChild> awwww poor Hobbsee 
[13:07]  * Jucato gives Hobbsee some calming tea :)
[13:07]  * Hobbsee has already had enough asshatery.
[13:08] <PriceChild> Hobbsee: why don't you top it off by finishing ont he forums?
[13:08] <PriceChild> And where is this years google joke?!
[13:08] <tonyyarusso> PriceChild: "CUstom Time"
[13:08] <tonyyarusso> PriceChild: http://mail.google.com/mail/help/customtime/index.html
[13:09]  * tonyyarusso goes to see if he can sleep for another 45 minutes
[13:09] <Hobbsee> PriceChild: because....see /query
[13:09] <PriceChild> ah its on google mail
[13:12] <Seveas> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61790/
[13:12] <Seveas> rot13 is back on the pastebin \o_
[13:13] <Seveas> tonyyarusso, automatix thing? somebody said it was revived?
[13:18] <Gary> tonyyarusso: hehe
[13:18] <PriceChild> http://www.google.com/virgle/index.html
[13:18] <PriceChild> tonyyarusso: there is the google.com one
[13:19]  * PriceChild laughs at the questionairre
[13:19] <Gary> http://www.google.com/virgle/index.html
[13:19] <Gary> oops
[13:23] <PriceChild> Haha http://www.youtube.com/projectvirgle
[13:23] <PriceChild> Mr. Branson has done a video for it
[13:23] <Gary> meh, I blocked youtube yesterday
[13:32] <jpatrick> Gary: grab it now: Kubuntu in pink: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HippyHorse/Omega/Kubuntu !
[13:32] <Gary> wooo
[13:34] <Pici> Sigh.  I dont think that the unicorn commit for kubuntu-default-settings was such a great idea.
[13:34] <jpatrick> Pici: why?
[13:34] <Gary> jpatrick: wow, I'm getting about 1mb/s
[13:34] <Pici> jpatrick: bug reports :(, maybe I'm just being to serious about it though.
[13:35] <jpatrick> Pici: mark as invalid -> comment -> "April fools."
[13:35] <Pici> jpatrick: I mean in u+1
[13:36] <Pici> Maybe I'm just not in an April Fools mood because I have to go from meeting to meeting today, or that I havent had my caffeine yet.
[13:36] <jpatrick> Pici: /kick $nick april fools then :p
[13:44] <Hobbsee> those forums...
[14:03] <vorian> haha
[14:04] <vorian> Hobbsee: you can change that by looking in the lower left corner of the window (v2.0)
[14:04] <Hobbsee> vorian: i can change it much easier by closing the webpage.  :)
[14:04] <vorian> alrighty then :)
[14:05] <Hobbsee> and then i don't have to see forum-induced pain
[14:06] <vorian> there is a style selector on the bottom, but as you wish.
[14:07] <Hobbsee> :)
[14:07]  * Seveas hugs Hobbsee 
[14:07] <Seveas> jdong is mean!
[14:07] <Hobbsee> bleck.  that one's even worse
[14:07]  * Hobbsee hugs Seveas back
[14:08] <Hobbsee> Seveas: yes, he is - and the trouble with him is tha'ts *just* something he would do, if he thought he could get away with it.
[14:08] <LjL> Seveas: jdong is actually variance
[14:08] <Seveas> that's why it's so evil of him to do it on april fools :)
[14:08] <Seveas> it is the best april fools joke I've seen today
[14:08] <LjL> oh crap it's that day
[14:08] <Pici> Yes.
[14:09] <_jason> Seveas: what joke?
[14:09] <Seveas> _jason, he uploaded automatix to ubuntu. Gve Hobbsee a stroke
[14:09] <Pici> jrib: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2008-April/003510.html
[14:10] <LjL> Sevea: uploaded? he put automatix in universe?
[14:11] <Hobbsee> it got rejected
[14:11] <LjL> yes, jdong is mean
[14:11] <jrib> ha
[14:12] <PriceChild> Didn't you all know automatix has been discontinued anyway?
[14:12] <LjL> PriceChild: is that what, a reverse april fools?
[14:12] <PriceChild> no this was a few days ago
[14:12] <LjL> !automatix
[14:12] <ubotu> Automatix is no longer developed or supported by its creators and is not recommended, supported or needed by Ubuntu. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[14:13] <PriceChild> grrr univode
[14:13] <PriceChild> That's better.
[14:14] <PriceChild> my sister just put two gerbils in a hamster ball together... that's mean, making them work together
[14:16] <LjL> tell me one thing
[14:16] <LjL> hardy isn't going to be delayed, is it?
[14:16] <LjL> PriceChild: work together.
[14:16] <Pici> Not that I'm aware of.  Besides the fact that people think it was supposed to be released today.
[14:16] <Pici> s/people/some people
[14:18] <LjL> Pici: now they won't think that.
[14:18] <Pici> ...
[14:20] <jrib> turn on color and make the channel emulate the forums
[14:20] <Hobbsee> LjL: :)
[14:20] <Hobbsee> LjL: although, that's not the real reason for the delay.
[14:21] <LjL> not a single one of those 1300 fools is falling for it :(
[14:21] <Pici> No one reads the topic
[14:21] <LjL> Pici: i'm seriously tempted to do it the jdong way then.
[14:22] <Pici> LjL: I'm afraid to ask which way that is.
[14:22] <LjL> although i don't know how to use colors.
[14:22] <Hobbsee> LjL: the actual reason is that the release team, and the core developers, will be so far hung over, that they'll be in hospital, and only get out in june.
[14:23] <LjL> Hobbsee: sucks for them.
[14:27] <LjL> i'll have better luck next april.
[14:29] <Pici> LjL: Don't ask silly questions, thats what #ubuntu is for?
[14:30] <LjL> that's just appropriate sarcasm, not an april fools... :P
[14:30] <LjL> well anyway where's the links for google and the ietf?
[14:50] <LjL> btw in case it wasn't clear, ubotwo can't really be relied upon anymore. i have no idea what's going on, i recreated the entire thing, but it just starts throwing exceptions and stops accepting commands after a while
[14:50] <Seveas> ljl ok
[14:51] <mez_> LjL: if you want, then feel free to move it to torpor. Supybot on there is working fine.
[14:51] <mez_> Though whether that will solve the issues, I dont know
[14:51] <LjL> it must be the branch of encyclopedia that i have though, as i don't think supybot itself got upgraded anytime recently
[14:51] <LjL> although then again, it doesn't apparently seem related to encyclopedia either
[14:52] <mez_> LjL: one of the deps could have though
[14:52] <mez_> what errors are you getting ?
[14:52] <mez_> (pastebin some of the exceptions ?)
[14:52] <LjL> mez_, moment
[14:52] <Seveas> don't use the ubuntu NL pastebin
[14:52] <Seveas> it rot13's :p
[14:52] <mez_> Seveas: ?
[14:52] <mez_> why does it ?
[14:53] <Seveas> look at your calendar
[14:53] <LjL> mez_: http://pastebin.ca/964819
[14:53] <LjL> Sevea: ...
[14:53] <mez_> Seveas: ah, I thought that stopped at midday
[14:53] <LjL> no, i had this pastebinned already :P
[14:53] <LjL> SeveaS: throw your darn clone out of here :P
[14:54] <mez_> LjL: I think I might know what that is.
[14:55]  * Hobbsee throws LjL out
[14:55] <mez_> LjL: is ubot2 hosted on your own server, or something else?
[14:55] <LjL> mez_: my server yeah
[14:55] <mez_> LjL: do you have disk quotas set?
[14:56] <LjL> quotas... i really don't think so, given the stuff there's in /home/ljl (and not in ubotwo's one)
[14:56] <LjL> lemme check though
[14:57] <LjL> hm, no i don't
[14:58] <mez_> LjL: basically, the erros your getting is saying that something closed the writing to it.
[14:59] <mez_> Try just cat /dev/null > /path/to/log
[14:59] <mez_> and restart supybot 
[14:59] <LjL> i had tried that. but wait, that makes me think of something
[14:59] <mez_> may be you've hit a filesystem size limit (4G though is the smallest... )
[14:59] <LjL> Ubotwo: list
[14:59] <mez_> Though, there is a fix, which is to edith the supybot program file.
[15:00] <LjL> hm it's working right now so i can't check what i wanted
[15:00] <mez_>    import signal
[15:00] <mez_>    signal.signal(signal.SIGPIPE, signal.SIG_DFL)
[15:00] <LjL> is this correct in the crontab?
[15:00] <mez_> add those two lines towards the start of supybot, and it should fix it *crosses fingers*
[15:00] <LjL> /bin/sh -c if ! pidof -x supybot; then cd ~/ubotwo ; supybot Ubotwo.conf; fi
[15:00] <mez_> LjL: more than likely not
[15:00] <mez_> one sec
[15:00]  * mez_ finds out his supybot checker
[15:01] <mez_> * * * * * supybot-botchk --botdir=/home/mez/bots/lethargy/ --pidfile=lethargy.pid --conffile=lethargy.conf
[15:01] <mez_> * * * * * supybot-botchk --botdir=/home/mez/bots/lethargy/ --pidfile=lethargy.pid --conffile=lethargy.conf
[15:01] <mez_> damnit, double paste
[15:03] <mez_> that's the crontab for lethargy (and bugbot with different options)
[15:03] <LjL> didn't know about botchk
[15:03] <mez_> hehe
[15:03] <mez_> it needs the normal bot to be stopped
[15:03] <LjL> anyway i'm thinking about this because i seem to recall seeing two supybot processes in ps
[15:03] <mez_> cause running it manually doesnt create pidfiles
[15:03] <LjL> not right now, though - and in fact, it's working right now
[15:03] <mez_> 16283 ?        S     87:16 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/supybot --daemon lethargy.conf
[15:03] <mez_> is all I see ;)
[15:04] <mez_> well, that and bugbot ;)
[15:04] <LjL> irc      19881  0.0  0.3   4828  1404 ?        Ss   15:08   0:00 /bin/sh -c if ! pidof -x supybot; then cd ~/ubotwo ; supybot Ubotwo.conf; fi
[15:04] <LjL> irc      19884  0.0  2.6  15748 10356 ?        S    15:08   0:02 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/supybot Ubotwo.conf
[15:04] <mez_> yeah, that's cause your first command doesnt exit out until the second does
[15:04] <mez_> I've noticed that with Floodbot too
[15:04] <LjL> mez_: yeah but that's not the issue, i think i've seen two actual supybot processes at some stage
[15:05] <mez_> LjL: I see 4 processes for Floodbot o_o
[15:05]  * LjL checks
[15:10] <PriceChild> an oem installed, *activated* copy of vista just found a problem with my computer
[15:10] <PriceChild> ""The problem was caused by Windows Vista, which was created by Microsoft Corporation. You are running a beta version of Windows Vista, which is no longer supported by Microsoft Corporation.
[15:10] <PriceChild> "
[15:10] <mez_> PriceChild: sucks to be you
[15:10] <PriceChild> meh, i don't use this machine
[15:10] <mez_> probably their crappy way of forcing you to get SP1?
[15:10] <PriceChild> it has sp1..
[15:11] <Seveas> it still sucks to be you though
[15:11] <mez_> PriceChild: maybe it's just cause they realised how much it sucked?
[15:14] <mez_> PriceChild: was you forced to use it ?
[15:19] <LjL> mez_, bah, i've taken it down to two processes, have a look. i don't quite know how to make it just one (and still not get mail and stuff)
[15:26] <mez_> LjL: to be fair, I'd say the best bet would to be to have the PHP code daeminise itself
[15:26] <LjL> mez_: err... what about you live with two floodbot processes in your ps =)
[15:27] <mez_> LjL: :P
[15:27] <mez_> I wasnt complaining... just a bit confusing when you see 4 processes
[15:28] <LjL> i still don't understand ubotwo though. it keeps on working, now... does it only stop working when i actually make it join several channels? bah.
[15:28] <mez_> LjL: the easier way to do it would be to create a bash script (or something) that did an if, then ran it in the background (nohupped of course). As that would complete execution, leaving only the PHP script itself running
[15:29] <LjL> mez_: well that was what startbot.sh was doing, except i suppose i had the nohup and syntax subtleties wrong...
[15:29]  * mez_ looks
[15:30] <LjL> mez_: it's not like it was when i was actually using it though, i've toyed with it now (and given up)
[15:30] <LjL> mez_: before it was, iirc, if pidof blah; then (cd bot; ./bot >log); fi
[15:33] <mez_> Ljl, mind if I kill the bot off a sec
[15:33] <LjL> go on
[15:33] <LjL> don't -s 9 though
[15:33] <mez_> whats the best way to kill it ?
[15:33] <LjL> just kill pid
[15:35] <mez_> which isnt killing it
[15:36] <LjL> mez_, it gave "client quit" so you killed it the right way anyway
[15:36] <LjL> or it'd have given connection reset by peer
[15:53] <jrib> people are getting confused in #ubuntu...
[15:54] <mez_> What's new there?
[15:56] <jrib> /topic
[15:56] <jrib> oh right, I mean confused for different reasons :)
[15:56] <mez_> :P
[15:56]  * mez_ leaves
[15:58] <LjL> Seveas, your pb prank is having a great amount of success in -it :)
[15:59] <LjL> Seveas, surprisingly though, they went very close to the truth when they asked "what the fuck is that, dutch?"
[16:05] <LjL> jdong, you know you can be sued for eyesight damage
[16:05] <jdong> LjL: lol
[16:05] <jdong> LjL: more than one forum users thought it was something wrong with Opera and they tried Firefox before whining
[16:05] <jdong> :D
[16:06] <jdong> that's gotta say seomthing, when a website looks weird the first thing you blame is your web browser
[16:06] <LjL> jdong: ah wait... that guy who i told how to downgrade firefox... said he wanted to because he had problems with wikipedia and the forums...
[16:06]  * LjL goes to check wikipedia
[16:06] <jdong> :D
[16:06] <LjL> uhm wp is fine though
[16:07] <jdong> ...that Wiener sausages are named after the mathematician Norbert Wiener?
[16:07] <jdong> except the Did You Knows
[16:07] <LjL> jdong: ok, but you wouldn't blame *that* on the browser, would you
[16:08] <jdong> LjL: usually not? (*points to Ogra blaming Upstart last release cycle for fuzzy OpenOffice fonts*)
[16:08] <LjL> point taken.
[16:14] <Seveas> ljl, haha :)
[16:14] <Seveas> italians are crazy
[17:22] <ubotu> soundray called the ops in #ubuntu (free1 ; delfino offtopic)
[17:23] <jpatrick> hmm
[17:27] <PriceChild> jpatrick: tis fine in pm...
[17:27] <jussi01> so whats up with our overworked little friend ubotu ?
[17:27] <nalioth> i don't know who keeps kicking the bots from channels, but a +q is just fine for them
[17:28] <jpatrick> PriceChild: :)
[17:28] <PriceChild> Is it safe for me to -q ubotu in #ubuntu?
[17:28] <jpatrick> !test
[17:28] <ubotu> Failed.
[17:29] <PriceChild> Going once..
[17:30]  * jussi01 pokes Seveas 
[17:30] <PriceChild> Going thrice..
[17:30] <nalioth> PriceChild: voice it
[17:30] <Seveas> whhy not -q?
[17:31] <PriceChild> how come?
[17:32] <Seveas> it's doing fine, there's no reason for a mute
[17:32] <nalioth> let it speak
[17:33] <nalioth> and there's no reason to kick ubot3 from all the channels you guys requested it be in
[17:37] <nalioth> anybody any good with running cgi scripts?
[18:06] <tonyyarusso> PriceChild: note:  A July release makes it possible to include FF3 final :P
[18:22] <Pici> hm
[19:32] <LjL> what, you're still with ubotwo?!
[19:38] <stefg> ubotu doesn't seem to feel well... is he rebooting?
[19:38] <LjL> don't quite know
[19:38] <LjL> i can bring ubotwo back, but as you may know, it's "misbehaving" :)
[19:39] <jdong> ha
[19:39] <LjL> stefg: here's your answer.
[19:39] <stefg> so anyone pat ubotu, and promise him a wage increase :-)
[19:57] <Seveas> hmmm
[19:59] <Seveas> a bit of load...
[20:00] <tonyyarusso> I bet the load on DreamHost's blingy cluster is higher.
[20:00] <Seveas> dunno
[20:01] <Seveas> if dreamhost is any good they don't let their load get > 10
[20:01] <tonyyarusso> Try 50+.
[20:01] <tonyyarusso> blingy is getting to be quite the disaster.
[20:01] <Seveas> ah
[20:02] <tonyyarusso> see dreamhoststatus.com if you want details
[20:11] <tonyyarusso> err, could we get a bot of any form into #ubuntu at least?
[20:11] <Seveas> hod to powercycle the server, load was getting in the way of doing anything
[20:12] <tonyyarusso> yay :S
[20:12] <PriceChild> tonyyarusso: others should be in there, just -q then
[20:12] <PriceChild> or +v
[20:12] <tonyyarusso> PriceChild: doh, right
[20:12] <Seveas> amavis+spamassassin+clamav == no fun
[20:13] <Seveas> yes, something between them is killing
[20:13] <PriceChild> tonyyarusso: if you +v, then I guess that's a good thing because it will only stay able to talk before it screws up
[20:14] <PriceChild> so it won't disconnect/connect while none of us are around and lag and bad things
[20:14] <tonyyarusso> PriceChild: hrm?
[20:15] <tonyyarusso> gah
[20:15] <tonyyarusso> PriceChild: we only have ubotu2, which isn't working either.  ubotwo is online and functional, but not joined, and I don't seem to have access.  (thought I did....)
[20:16] <PriceChild> tonyyarusso: ubotu, ubotwo, ubot3
[20:17] <tonyyarusso> PriceChild: I know what they are - they aren't joined.
[20:17] <tonyyarusso> Maybe I have access to ubot3 though, will try that
[20:17] <tonyyarusso> nope
[20:17] <Seveas> ubotu is on its way back already
[20:18] <tonyyarusso> mmkay
[20:18] <tonyyarusso> still...
[20:18] <Seveas> clamav is disabled
[20:18] <nalioth> someobody requested ubot3 in a bunch of channels yesterday
[20:18] <nalioth> then it got kicked out of most of 'em
[20:19] <Seveas> tonyyarusso, ubotwo has issues
[20:20] <PriceChild> Grr
[20:21] <Seveas> now, with that out of the way it's time to swoop in the new ubotu
[20:21] <LjL> Seveas, "issues".
[20:23] <LjL> !issues
[20:23] <Ubotwo> Failed.
[20:23] <Seveas> !test
[20:23] <Ubotwo> Factoid test not found
[20:24] <Seveas> join lag
[20:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about issues - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:24] <ubotu> Failed.
[20:26] <Amaranth> jdong: see, i told you someone would think it was serious :P
[20:26]  * Amaranth poke Hobbsee
[20:27] <LjL> !o4o
[20:27] <Ubotwo> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu-ops!
[20:27] <ubotu> Some things are inappropriate for #ubuntu-ops. Controversial topics, which always turn into flame wars: war, race, religion, politics, gender, sexuality, drugs, questionable legal activities, suicide are not for here. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy)
[20:27] <Seveas> has ubotu been having issues all day?
[20:28] <LjL> Seveas: i think it was working earlier. except i had it muted in #ubuntu because i found ubotwo more appropriate
[20:29] <LjL> by the way, i curse python for not having static variables
[20:30] <TheSheep> LjL: you mean class variables?
[20:30] <LjL> then again, it was split for most of the time, so wth, i don't even get to see whatever it told people.
[20:30] <LjL> TheSheep: no, i mean frigging static variables.
[20:31] <TheSheep> LjL: static as in which other language, because every one uses this keyword for something different?
[20:32] <LjL> TheSheep, variables local to a function that keep their value between function calls
[20:34] <TheSheep> ah, these are not in python :)
[20:34] <LjL> i *know* they're not, i spent like ten minutes looking for them before using globals
[20:35] <TheSheep> there is also no goto
[20:35] <Seveas> !test
[20:35] <Ubotwo> Some things are inappropriate for #ubuntu-ops. Controversial topics, which always turn into flamewars: war, race, religion, politics (unless related to software licencing), gender, sexuality, drugs, spreading propaganda, questionable legal activities, removing of oneself from the planet (except by space or time travel) are not for here, perhaps #off-topic or ##politics. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Policy)
[20:35] <ubotu> Failed.
[20:35] <LjL> meh, that's different
[20:35] <LjL> i've never been looking for a goto instruction in the past 10 years
[20:35] <LjL> but i have been looking for static variables
[20:36] <Seveas> LjL, descriptors without setters
[20:36] <LjL> Seveas, artelfllides abforly brawerd?
[20:38] <Seveas> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61838/plain/
[20:40] <LjL> Seveas: kind of overkill it seems to me if you just want to hack factoid_lookup to return the previous factoid asked
[20:40] <jdong> Amaranth: Hobbsee already thwacked me a few times for that :D
[20:40] <LjL> jdong: what, still automatix?
[20:42] <tonyyarusso> like, IRL thwacking?
[20:43] <jdong> LjL: yes
[20:43] <jdong> tonyyarusso: no we're oceans apart
[20:44] <LjL> jdong: you'd think that protects you...
[20:48] <tonyyarusso> jdong: it is a LOOOOOOOOOOOONG pointy stick
[20:48] <LjL> indeed
[20:48] <LjL> although the flat earth society mantains that it's straight, while we all know it has to be bent
[20:54] <tonyyarusso> LjL: depends what direction it's pointed.  Sticks are not 100% rigid, thus it is possible that the flex coefficient is such that when pointed up it is completely straight, and when perpendicular to that has the same radius of curvature of the earth, while still normally returning to straightness.
[21:07] <Seveas> ok, so it's definitely fricken amavis causing the load
[21:07] <Seveas> time to s/postfix/exim/ and get rid of amavis
[21:08] <Seveas> tonyyarusso, it's still bent.
[21:09] <tonyyarusso> Seveas: what, relativistically?
[21:09] <Seveas> no, just bent
[21:09] <Seveas> crooked
[21:53] <ubotu> cdm10 called the ops in #ubuntu+1 (whoop)
[21:55] <jpatrick> sorted
[22:04] <ubotu> stdin called the ops in #ubuntu (realmccoy_)
[22:05] <Seveas> jpatrick, that was ascii art of a penis with sperm...
[22:05] <jpatrick> stdin: gah, should of seen it
[22:05]  * jpatrick thought it was just random
[22:15] <jdong> my my we have some ubuntu art team wannabes
[22:16] <Gary> I'm not impressed, that was only like 1.5cm !
[22:17] <jdong> Gary: increase your font size :)
[22:18] <Gary> even at pt72 it is still a weiner
[22:19] <jdong> well better be a weiner than a sore loser.
[22:19] <jdong> (sorry that was bad)
[22:19] <jdong> my presence on the internet today has probably not been appreciated :D
[22:20] <Gary> \o/
[22:20] <jdong> I think my pranks have been the meanest :)
[22:21] <jdong> you ops might get a kick out of this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=742082
[22:21] <jdong> (for those unfamiliar, 10pts puts all your posts on moderation queue, 15pts is a ban)
[22:27] <Gary> jdong: you are evil
[22:42] <nikrud> I think I'm gonna digg that ;)
[23:06] <mneptok> http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/superpiipii.html?cpg=70H
[23:06]  * mneptok sent that to the company-wide list today
[23:12] <ompaul> mneptok, and this will endear you to one and all 
[23:27] <stefg> I think the !mirrors factoid needs an update ... i'd guess the run on gutsy is over now
[23:32] <ompaul> !mirrors
[23:32] <Ubotwo> Failed.
[23:32] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive - PLEASE use the !torrents to download Gutsy, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[23:33] <ompaul> !search gutsy
[23:33] <ubotu> Found: studiorepo, links, kde, dolphin, torrents, download, 7.10, virtualbox, rt, gibbon
[23:33] <Ubotwo> Found: studiorepo, links, kde, dolphin, torrents, download, 7.10, virtualbox, rt, gibbon
[23:34] <ompaul> !search Gutsy
[23:34] <ompaul> LjL, ^^
[23:34] <ompaul> is that intentional?
[23:36] <ompaul> edit war on wiki
[23:36] <ompaul> arrr
[23:58] <LjL> ompaul, what is intentional? :)