[00:00] <valros> yes i know but it says the directory doesnt exist
[00:00] <Reflex> ok
[00:00] <valros> i just didnt want to put my name up
[00:00] <damaltor> valros: go into /home and type ls
[00:00] <IdleOne> unop_, I dont understand it either
[00:00] <Mark_> soundray, Says no restricted drivers are needed when I try what you said
[00:00] <soundray> valros: does 'cd /home/$USER' work?
[00:00] <Mark_> zx-cell, did you use restricted drivers?
  course
[00:01] <unop_> valros, simply typing 'cd' should do
[00:01] <nikitis> kitche, that needs to be changed.  Or there needs to be an option to allow for manual installation of drivers to work with ubuntu-desktop effects
[00:01] <Mark_> zx-cell, hmm when I try that in Administration, it says I don't need any
[00:01] <valros> ok i got it
  otherwise you yust cant enable other visual effects
[00:01] <valros> i think
[00:01] <soundray> Mark_: in that case I would recommend that you stick with what you've got and try the Restricted... method again in hardy once it's been released and you've upgraded
[00:01] <kitche> nikitis: well here it's works fine with manual drivers
[00:01] <brainiac8008> i have an nvidia geforce 6150se and i'm running a 7.10 livecd.  i enabled the nvidia-glx-new driver. When i restarted x, i went into low graphics mode, so i restarted, once again running on the livecd.  any ideas?
[00:01] <nikitis> kitche, it was working for me, then out of the blue it just died, and went to metacity
[00:02] <Mark_> soundray, roger that, I can enable effects, it's just a bit slow and heavy on cpu for some reason
[00:02] <nikitis> kitche, now i have to type compiz --replace
[00:02] <nikitis> kitche, it works when I do that
[00:02] <nikitis> kitche, but that's ghetto.
[00:02] <joebob777as7> nikitis just put that in your sessions startup
[00:02] <nikitis> joebob777as7,  i did, but now it takes longer to load
[00:02] <kitche> nikitis: yep sounds like an update might have just screwed something up when you login or your logging in under a different session
[00:02] <joebob777as7> yeah... upgrade to hardy..
[00:03] <nikitis> is hardy 8.??
[00:03] <soundray> Mark_: you probably do need the proprietary driver to make it work better, but if it's not offered, the procedure is a bit more involved
[00:03] <mrsolo> hardy is still beta right?
[00:03] <soundray> !ati | Mark_
[00:03] <Mark_> soundray, yup, i'm reading that now, thx
[00:03] <cataldus3d> please some help meeee
[00:03] <joebob777as7> nikitis yes and it's LTS version so it's pretty stable already
[00:03] <soundray> mrsolo: those who can read the topic know
[00:03] <nikitis> LTS?
[00:03] <cataldus3d> i click on set disklabel in gparted
[00:03] <joebob777as7> Long Term Support version
[00:04] <Mark_> soundray, just hope I don't hose anything hehehe
[00:04] <nikitis> can i do dist-upgrade
[00:04] <joebob777as7> final comes out next month (april)
[00:04] <joebob777as7> nikitis yes
[00:04] <Mark_> I'm be needing some fried chicken, got a hankering, bbl
[00:04] <nikitis> joebob777as7,  thanks
[00:04] <joebob777as7> np nikitis
[00:05] <zx-cell> can someone help me out with dhcp3-server troubleshooting ?
[00:05] <abrock> Need help modifying GRUB. WIndows XP is on Master IDE Channel 1. Ubuntu is on Sata Channel 1. I have been dual-booting this way fine. I now have another IDE device as slave on Master IDE Channel 1. I now get Grub Error 17. How do I fix this?
[00:05] <sidis406> evening ppl. :)
[00:05] <brainiac8008> hey guys, i have an nvidia geforce 6150se and i'm running a 7.10 livecd.  i want to use compiz, so i enabled the nvidia-glx-new driver. When i restarted x, i went into low graphics mode, so i restarted my computer, once again running on the livecd.  any ideas?
[00:05] <zx-cell> pls can someone help me out with dhcp3-server troubleshooting ?
[00:06] <joebob777as7> abrock sud apt-get install qgrubeditor
[00:06] <Animortis> I'm having some trouble with setting up a file share between windows xp and Ubuntu, with Ubuntu gutsy serving. Anyone willing to listen?
[00:06] <joebob777as7> abrock should help a bit
[00:06] <Reflex> I have samba setup whats my intial steps as far as networking my winxp box with my ubuntu box ?
[00:06] <Animortis> I just want to throw my technique out and if I screwed up someome tell me what.
[00:06] <Animortis> I did wrong*
[00:06] <kitche> Animortis: just say what the problem is and someone will anwser if they know
[00:06] <valros> kismet configurer gives me this error, C compiler cannot create executables, is it trying to create a windows executable?
[00:07] <zx-cell>  can someone help me out with dhcp3-server troubleshooting ?
[00:07] <zx-cell>  ... hoping :D
[00:07] <joebob777as7> lol valros no
[00:07] <kitche> valros: no you just need to install build-essential
[00:08] <valros> best way to do that?
[00:08] <abrock> joebob777as7: I get message  Couldn't find package qgrubeditor
[00:08] <brainiac8008> hey guys, i have an nvidia geforce 6150se and i'm running a 7.10 livecd.  i want to use compiz, so i enabled the nvidia-glx-new driver. When i restarted x, i went into low graphics mode, so i restarted my computer, once again running on the livecd.  any ideas? ANYONE???
[00:08] <Animortis> I installed Samba and started it through the cli. I made a desktop user and then made a folder in its home folder called 'share' and gave it ownership of the folder and 775 permissions. I then added the folder to System-Administration-Shared folders and added my smb workgroup name in. I restarted Ubuntu. The xp laptop I'm serving sees the Ubuntu PC but says I do not have permissions to log in.
[00:08] <Animortis> Oh
[00:09] <Animortis> I also did an smbpasswd -a to that desktop user
[00:09] <Animortis> That's important
[00:09] <valros> kitche, best way to install build-essential?
[00:09] <joebob777as7> abrock sorry follow this guide: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/qgrubeditor-a-visual-grub-configuration-editor.html
[00:09] <tarelerulz> When your compiling alsa what is the part you really need alsa-driver , alsa-lib and alsa-utils
[00:09] <zx-cell>  can someone  pls help me out with dhcp3-server troubleshooting ?
[00:09] <kitche> valros: either sudo apt-get install or using synaptics
[00:09] <Sinistrad> Animortis, can you access it locally using smbclient or something like that?
[00:10] <Copter> I change resolution to 1024x768 on my 17" CRT ( Radeon X1950 Pro), I get blackScreen. I installed envy, I did the dpkg-reconfigure, I donno what else to do, HELP MEH!
[00:10] <Copter> I Cant*
[00:10] <abrock> joebob777as7: Ok, will give it a try. Thanks.
[00:10] <Animortis> Sinistrad, I am not familiar with smbclient. I did this on another install, I thought, and it worked fine...
[00:10] <joebob777as7> abrock it's in a hardy+ only repositories
[00:10] <joebob777as7> np abrock
[00:10] <goob> can anyone recommend a good IM client?
[00:11] <kitche> goob: umm for what?
[00:11] <zx-cell> could someone help me out with dhcp3-server troubleshooting  pls ...  i know its easy, but this seems like an bug to me or something?
[00:11] <linnux> gaim
[00:11] <tarelerulz> Pidgin is the best for just IM
[00:11] <unop_> now known as pidgin
[00:11] <kitche> zx-cell: just state what the problem is and someone will answer if they knos
[00:11] <Sinistrad> Animortis, smbclient is a command-line samba client, you can do something like smbclient -U username //localhost/sharename from the machine samba is running on.  If you can't access the share that way, it will rule out XP as the culprit. (if you can access, it doesn't rule out your server as the culprit)
[00:11] <kitche> know*
[00:11] <tarelerulz> If you want to go the sip way there a lot
[00:12] <linnux> ya gaim is pidgin only one u need to use
[00:12] <goob> i tried sudo aptitude install pidgin with no result
[00:12] <kitche> goob: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[00:12] <unop_> linnux, until you want to use things pidgin doesnt support :)
[00:12] <go> hi
[00:12] <goob> feisty
[00:12] <wenton5672> pidgin is great!
[00:13] <kitche> isn't pidgin installed by default goob
[00:13] <ubuntu_> installed heron onto an exterior drive.  it put grub into the mbr.  off of a live cd, i tried to fix grub with setup (hd0) to get back to the hard drive, , but "error while parsing number".  help appreciated.
[00:13] <wenton5672> it is on gutsy
[00:13] <unop_> ubuntu_, please take this to #ubuntu+1
[00:13] <kitche> ubuntu_: #ubuntu+1 for hardy sypport
[00:13] <linnux> unop ya
[00:13] <goob> oh my, yes it is there listed as Gaim!!
[00:13] <goob> oops!
[00:13] <tarelerulz> Who has try  Ubuntu 8.04 ?
[00:14] <goob> i tried hardy a little
[00:14] <unop_> tarelerulz, question to ask in #ubuntu+1
[00:14] <wenton5672> goob u will want to upgrade to the lastest version
[00:14] <soundray> tarelerulz: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[00:14] <UberDuper> How do you disable screen blanking on the console?
[00:14] <cataldus3d> helloooo
[00:14] <linnux> goob just to "wget 'addresshere.deb'
[00:14] <cataldus3d> someone knows about gparted???
[00:14] <UberDuper> Setting BLANK=0 in /etc/console-tools/config doesn't seem to have any impact.
[00:14] <goob> sudo aptitude upgrade gaim?
[00:14] <Animortis> Sinistrad, I accessed the share through smbclient fine and even made a folder to test my access privileges. What does that mean?
[00:14] <trey__> tarelerulz: i am downloading it... i am going to install it to my virtualbox
[00:14] <linnux> 'sudo dpkg  -i namehere.deb
[00:14] <wenton5672> yeh :)
[00:14] <zx-cell>  if i try to start / stop or restart dhcp3-server, i'm always getting the same response ..  errors from 9 to 22 ending with syntax error: "}" unexpected
[00:14] <Positronic> Can someone point me in the correct direction to get an automated repository created?
[00:14] <brainiac8008> hey guys, i have an nvidia geforce 6150se and i'm running a 7.10 livecd.  i want to use compiz, so i enabled the nvidia-glx-new driver. When i restarted x, i went into low graphics mode, so i restarted my computer, once again running on the livecd.  any ideas? ANYONE???
[00:15] <kitche> zx-cell: then your syntax is wrong for the config files for it
[00:15] <tarelerulz> I have read Kopete  the newest version it on Ubuntu 8.04 . It is one of the reason I would get it. I want to get into some voice chat
[00:15] <Sinistrad> Animortis, it means samba is serving your localhost correctly.  When you try to access from XP, are you sure you're entering both the username (case sensitive) and the password (case sensitive) correctly? (note: neither of those may be case sensitive for samba)
[00:15] <ubuntu_> it's not hardy, i run gutsy, now on a live cd.  trying to get the mbr back to what it was.
[00:15] <zx-cell> well i ve checked them, and they are all fine ...
[00:16] <kitche> zx-cell: you think theya re but obvisious they are not
[00:16] <Animortis> Sinistrad, I never get to it asking username and password. It simply gives an error message about the server being not accessable and not having permission.
[00:16] <Animortis> Maybe I need to reboot the laptop?
[00:16] <Copter> I cant change resolution to anything other than 1280x1024, (Specifically i want 1024x768) on my 17" CRT ( Radeon X1950 Pro), I get blackScreen. I installed envy, I did the dpkg-reconfigure, I donno what else to do, HELP MEH!
[00:16] <goob> anybody know the package name of the OSX kiba dock?
[00:16] <valros> im at a brick wall, cannot get kismet to get wifi working without build-essential, cannot get that without internet, cant find where to download the package
[00:16] <Sinistrad> Animortis, That's a problem ;(  Is your XP system patched?  Mine seem to ask for usernames/passwords....
[00:17] <soundray> !grub | ubuntu_: use the Recovering... instructions
[00:17] <Sinistrad> Is your samba server browseable in network neighborhood (or whatever they call it)
[00:17] <wenton> can someone tell me the command to install a .tar.gz file?
[00:17] <kitche> wenton: make or ./configure && make && make install
[00:17] <soundray> ubuntu_: hold on, the bot is AWOL
[00:17] <Animortis> Sinistrad, It is patched up. No, I can't browse it at all.
[00:18] <Ubotwo> ubuntu_: use the Recovering... instructions: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[00:18] <kitche> wenton: or if it's a binary you don't have to run any of those commands
[00:18] <Sinistrad> Animortis, I assume you've verified network connectivity?
[00:18] <wenton> ty kitche
 well gedit /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf   its just fine . .
[00:18] <Animortis> Sinistrad, It can get online, yes. And it SEES the server, it just refuses to open it.
[00:18] <goob> wenton: i think you can double click it to unpack locally and then sudo aptitude install /filepathhere
[00:19] <Sinistrad> Animortis, have you tried start->run-> \\<ip address>\sharename ?
[00:19] <c1x> what is gdmsetup ?
[00:19] <goob> anybody know the package name of the OSX kiba dock?
[00:19] <soundray> ubuntu_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[00:19] <kitche> c1x: configure application for gdm
[00:19] <user1> hi all, I was playing around with chaning the login screen themes and colors, I was able to change all the themes to a blue color fine, but i noticed after the login screen i still get the original ubuntu orangeybrown background for a few seconds before the desktop appears, Anyone know how i can remove/change the orange/brown
[00:20] <c1x> im having problems trying to install a boot screen :S new user
[00:21] <trey__> when i try to set appearance>visual effects to custom and i get: Desktop effects could not be enabled   i have an intergrated intel graphics card... help?
[00:21] <Animortis> Sinistrad, No? But I did "add a network place" and entered the server and share name like I did on Linux through smbclient and it doesn't see it.
[00:21] <Sinistrad> Animortis, have you tried using the server's ip address vs. the hostname?
[00:21] <soundray> trey__: when you run 'grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf', is there a line containing 'vesa'?
[00:23] <zx-sanji> hmm
[00:23] <jbettcher_> after i compile dev libraries is there a command to run to make sure they are available to applications i wish to compile
[00:24] <Animortis> Can you share a command to find my IP real fast?
[00:24] <kitche> jbettcher_: nope just compile
[00:24] <jbettcher_> hrm
[00:24] <Sinistrad> Animortis, ipconfig
[00:24] <soundray> Animortis: ifconfig
[00:24] <kitche> Animortis: got outside ip you can wget a page to grab it
[00:24] <Sinistrad> Animortis, erm, on the linux box: /sbin/ifconfig -a
[00:24] <Sinistrad> or leave out the -a
[00:24] <Silvanov> iwconfig
[00:25] <Sinistrad> Silvanov, does iwconfig show addresses?
[00:25] <valros> can someone help me get wifi working o nthis laptop
[00:25] <valros> im back to square one after 2 days
[00:25] <Animortis> Sinistrad, Success! But why...?
[00:25] <trey__> soundray: no i get this: http://www.pastebin.ca/965381
[00:25] <Sinistrad> Animortis, workgroup mismatch?
[00:25] <Animortis> Something windows did. Blarg bg'arg.
[00:26] <Sinistrad> Animortis, samba may not be configured to broadcast netbios names or something...this is outside my experience (I always use IPs out of habit...)
[00:26] <Rafabe> hiya
[00:26] <Sinistrad> Animortis, Just teach your users to access hosts by IP ;)
[00:26] <user1> Valeros I missed your wifi question (im a nebie, but would like to try and help")
[00:26] <Jeffreyf> Rafabe: just ask your question
[00:27] <Rafabe> I don't have access to my ubuntu desktop...does the Gnome Keyring let you import usernames/passwords? For example, from CSV, or XML, or maybe even Windows binaries like KeePass?
[00:27] <Animortis> Sinistrad, I don't know. I know I did exactly the same thing last time I set this up (I wrote down how) and it didn't do all this. Probably WIndows just being stupid.
[00:27] <valros> ubuntu just will not pickup my SSID at all
[00:27] <Rafabe> jeffrey: I was, but I like to say Hi first
[00:27] <soundray> trey__: looks okay, not sure why it won't do effects for you
[00:27] <user1> sounds like it picks up all other but yours
[00:27] <Sinistrad> Animortis, Windows is consistently stupid...Linux/ubuntu is much more inconsistent ;)
[00:27] <user1> LOL
[00:28] <valros> idk i cant see what it detects only tell it to look for something
[00:28] <user1> ahh, What program are you using to detect.see avaiable networks
[00:28] <Sinistrad> valros, does 'iwscan ap' say anything? (is that even the right syntax?)
[00:28] <Animortis> I get the feeling I'll try it out like two weeks from now and it'll work fine.
[00:28] <Sinistrad> Animortis, you're much more optimistic than I,.
[00:28] <trey__> soundray: :( nobody did elier either :(
[00:29] <valros> dont have a detect/see program
[00:29] <valros> iwscan ap isnt a command
[00:29] <DropKickMurpheys> Hi, i'm having some issues updating from my 64bit edition of 7.10  to the 8.04 beta using the alternate install cd
[00:29] <user1> Valeros when you do an IFconfig at the command line does it show the wireless card?
[00:29] <Sinistrad> frowns, valros
[00:29] <StevenX> Hey guys. Does anyone know an nzb downloader that does automatic unrars? I have heard of nzbperl, but I was wondering what else is out there.
[00:30] <Sinistrad> valros: 'iwlist ap'
[00:30] <valros> no list of access points on any
[00:30] <Animortis> Sinistrad, Appreciate it.
[00:30] <valros> could it be the router?
[00:30] <Sinistrad> Animortis, My pleasure.
[00:30] <zx-sanji> if i try to start / stop or restart dhcp3-server, i'm always getting the same response ..  errors from 9 to 22 ending with syntax error: "}" unexpected any one got an answer ... ?  or know the location pf config ?
[00:31] <Sinistrad> valros, define 'any'   What were the interface names it gave?
[00:31] <soundray> trey__: perhaps hardy will solve your problem, fingers crossed
[00:31] <valros> lo, eth0, wlan0
[00:31] <valros> wlan0 being the the internal 802.11b/g
[00:31] <Sinistrad> valrus: great, wlan0 is your wireless card, theoretically.
[00:32] <trey__> soundray: hardy!?!?!? oh buy... you mean the hardy thats STILL in beta? 8-\
[00:32] <kitche> zx-sanji: it tells you the name of the config file actually
[00:32] <Sinistrad> valrus, What does 'iwconfig wlan0' say?  does it show an essid? mode?  (don't paste the whole output)
[00:32] <valros> yes, and i had this working for a while
[00:32] <DropKickMurpheys> When i pop in my cd it wont come up with the update dialog and when i try alt-f2 and the gksu sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade, it doesn't seem to work either
[00:32] <soundray> trey__: why "still"? It's never been announced for anything sooner than April
[00:33] <valros> no ESSID but Mode:Managed
[00:33] <Sinistrad> valros: how are you trying to make it work? (which program? the little gnome toolbar applet thing?)
[00:33] <valros> yes
[00:33] <trey__> soundray: you mean th ubuntu distro? its in beta... isnt it?
[00:33] <Sinistrad> valros: should work ;)
[00:34] <soundray> trey__: yes
[00:34] <valros> yes it should, but it doesnt
[00:34] <Sinistrad> valros: try setting the essid manually: 'iwconfig wlan0 essid <whatever it is>'
[00:34] <Sinistrad> then 'ifup wlan0'
  well  if you change anything in etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf  it DOES NOT change a thing in the output ...
[00:34] <valros> after trying to connect to NETGEAR SSID for about a minute it stops
[00:34] <DropKickMurpheys> can someone attempt to help me update to 8.04 from 7.10 using the alternate install cd?
[00:34] <trey__> soundray: oh i knoow what you mean! you mean wait until it comes out?
[00:34] <DPic> does anybody know the max filesize for file uploaded to the ubuntu wiki?
[00:34] <Sinistrad> valros: so the gnome applet sees the netgear ESSID?
[00:34] <Sinistrad> valros: if so, ignore my previous suggestion
[00:34] <wenton> does compiz have a GUI apart from system>preferences>appearance>visual effects ?
[00:34] <valros>  no it doesnt
[00:35] <soundray> trey__: yes
[00:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !ccsm
[00:35] <cyclonuts> wenton: yes it does, it is compiz config settings manager.
[00:35] <Sinistrad> valros: try setting the essid manually
[00:35] <valros> gnome doesnt "see" anything, i cant get a list of available networks
[00:35] <kitche> Jack_Sparrow: bot has been dead for a while now :)
[00:35] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[00:35] <trey__> soundray: oh-well... i guess i will ask everybody else again... thanks for your help though!
[00:35] <valros> ive tried manual cofiguration, nothing, one more time though
[00:36] <wenton> cyclonuts- does this come installed with gutsy? or do u have to apt-get
[00:36] <cyclonuts> wenton: you need to install it. it is in the repositories.
[00:36] <soundray> trey__: try a /msg ubotu effects when the bot is back
[00:36] <valros> damnit, after closing the laptop screen(shuts off) the cursor doesnt load
[00:36] <j3kyll> where is the .trash of a usb device? how can i find it and "empty the trash"
[00:36] <wenton> ty
[00:36] <cyclonuts> wenton: I think you can just do sudo apt-get install compiz-config-settings-manager
[00:36] <Sinistrad> valros, if 'iwlist ap'  isn't showin anything, it means 1 of 3 things: 1) there aren't any APs in range 2) your stuff's broke 3) other
[00:36] <Jack_Sparrow> wenton,  sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[00:36] <mactaylor> !kde
[00:36] <wenton> ty :)
[00:37] <Sinistrad> valros, I'm just trying to isolate it
[00:37] <DropKickMurpheys> can someone attempt to help me update to 8.04 from 7.10 using the alternate install cd?
[00:37] <trey__> soundray: i will... why though?
[00:37] <soundray> j3kyll: it's normally called .Trash in the root directory of the advice
[00:37] <Jack_Sparrow> j3kyll, It will be on the usb  partition .Trash-yourloginname
[00:37] <soundray> trey__: there is a help factoid for effects
[00:37] <j3kyll> soundray: ill try finding it there thanks
[00:37] <webtoe> DropKickMurpheys: Why are you trying to do it from the alternate .iso's rather than over the net?
[00:37] <trey__> soundray: kk
[00:38] <DropKickMurpheys> internet here fails
[00:38] <webtoe> DropKickMurpheys: also keep in mind that 8.04 is still beat
[00:38] <webtoe> beta even
[00:38] <DropKickMurpheys> i understand that :D
[00:38] <webtoe> DropKickMurpheys: you need to tell apt to use the CD-ROM as your repository instead of the internet sources
[00:38] <kitche> webtoe: umm because you can and it's better if your machine is not really on the network most likely
[00:38] <valros> ive tried kismet, whats another that wont need libraries that i cant get
[00:38] <IdleOne> DropKickMurpheys, join #ubuntu+1
[00:39] <DropKickMurpheys> ah
[00:39] <j3kyll> soundray: got it, ha i just have a tendency to forget the small things :p
[00:39] <soundray> j3kyll: remember that nautilus hides filenames beginning with . by default. Also that it's case sensitive
[00:39] <Sinistrad> Did kismet show your AP, valros?
[00:39] <wenton> so out of interest many people here completely switched to linux?
[00:39] <valros> anyone?
[00:39] <webtoe> DropKickMurpheys: Look at System -> Administration -> Software Sources if you're using GUI
[00:39] <DropKickMurpheys> ok
[00:40] <kitche> !offtopic | wenton
[00:40] <kitche> bah stupid bot ...
[00:40] <webtoe> lol
[00:40] <trey__> wenton: kinda... its all thats installed now
[00:40] <maarek_> anyone using the Zend Data program for Google APIs?
[00:40] <wenton> oo, ur braver than me!
[00:41] <Sinistrad> Root-raid5: get dropped to the initrd prompt, "root disk not found" sort of thing.  Start the array manually ('mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 /dev/sdb2 /dev/sdc2 /dev/sdd2') and exit the initrd prompt, everything boots and works.  What am I missing?  It looks like the udev rules are on the ramdisk, as well as a valid /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf on the initrd image (but it appears to get overwritten by the time I get into the initrd shell).  Thoughts?
[00:41] <DropKickMurpheys> thanks webtoe i think i figured it out
[00:41] <soyeur> wenton: I don't "completely" use Linux because I also use FreeBSD :D
[00:41] <webtoe> DropKickMurpheys: No worries....
[00:41] <Copter> I cant change resolution to anything other than 1280x1024, (Specifically i want 1024x768) on my 17" CRT ( Radeon X1950 Pro), I get blackScreen. I installed envy, I did the dpkg-reconfigure, I donno what else to do, HELP MEH!
[00:41] <Copter> SAVE ME!
[00:41] <Sinistrad> soyeur, it's only freeBSD if your time is worth nothing ;)
[00:42] <soyeur> lol
[00:42] <webtoe> Copter: No caps please; ask politely
[00:42] <maarek_> that's the limit of your drivers Copter
[00:42] <soyeur> Copter: Why would you want a worse resolution anyway lol
[00:42] <Creator|afk> d
[00:42] <maarek_> update them and see if you can go higher
[00:42] <Creator|afk> hello people
[00:42] <Copter> soyeur: coz my CRT monitor can only display 1280x1024 on 60hz
[00:42] <DropKickMurpheys> Webtoe: it just gave me an error saying something about the disk not being debian
[00:42] <Sinistrad> maarek_, you've got it backwards...he's wantin' lower.
[00:42] <soyeur> oh
[00:42] <soyeur> I see
[00:42] <Copter> and it screwes my eyez
[00:42] <wenton> i only have two things stopping me moving over completely 1 is a lack of PDA support and the other is getting my TV card to work!
[00:43] <Nihilist_Nerd> Sinistrad: Why only if your time is worth nothing? Is it very difficult to use?
[00:43] <soyeur> that's kind of weird though, Copter...
[00:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Copter, sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit (Provide Pastebin link in channel)
[00:43] <soyeur> A 17" CRT should be able to display high resolutions just fine...
[00:43] <valros> so then this internet deal is hopeless, as it seems
[00:43] <Creator|afk> fatality
[00:43] <Creator|afk> fatality
[00:43] <Creator|afk> fatality
[00:43] <kitche> Nihilist_Nerd: license is much more different then GPL
[00:43] <Creator|afk> Aauris labs ;)
[00:43] <Sinistrad> Nihilist_Nerd, I was making a joke.  The 'if your time is worth nothing' is a standard argument against free linux/gnu/floss software...I figured I'd throw it at freeBSD, since this is a linux/GNU channel ;)
[00:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Creator|afk, Please stop
[00:43] <Creator|afk> ka darai :)
[00:43] <Aauris> labas CreativeEmbassy
[00:43] <Aauris> kas cia vyksta
[00:43] <webtoe> DropKickMurpheys: I know this might sound stupid but where did you get the disk from? I've not update a machine to 8.04 so I don't know what the details are for it. Plus, I always do it over the net so can't help too much
[00:44] <Creator|afk> bbz ainam kur 10 zmoniu sedi ;)
[00:44] <Aauris> Creator|afk
[00:44] <Aauris> :D
[00:44] <Nihilist_Nerd> Ah okay
[00:44] <Aauris> einam
[00:44] <Nyto> Can someone help me install babo the violent 2?
[00:44] <DropKickMurpheys> Downloaded the ISO from www.ubuntu.com
[00:44] <webtoe> DropKickMurpheys: As someone mentioned, I think #ubuntu+1 is for questions onthe next release
[00:44] <verb3k> Jack_Sparrow, stgraber has made a nice nifty tool :)
[00:44] <DropKickMurpheys> k
[00:44] <DropKickMurpheys> thanks
[00:45] <Jack_Sparrow> verb3k, She did a nice job on that yes.
[00:45] <Copter> heres my xorg.conf /suicide ! http://rafb.net/p/kgbxTx44.html
[00:45] <Sinistrad> Nihilist_Nerd, and for what it's worth, the argument applies to freeBSD as much as it does to anything ;(
[00:45] <Nihilist_Nerd> I see
[00:46] <Nyto> Can someone help me install babo the violent 2?
[00:46] <verb3k> Jack_Sparrow, She? he's a guy!
[00:46] <valros> sorry timed out there
[00:47] <valros> i couldnt get kismet it needed libraries that came as updates from, guess where, the internet im trying to fix with kismet
[00:47] <Jack_Sparrow> verb3k, SInce when?
[00:47] <Sinistrad> sad, valros
[00:48] <sjovan> okay... some dude said to me that wine could perform bether without doublebuffer and that the parameter was wine /dir/to/prog/ -doublebuffer. this is my shortcut for that prog ---> . env WINEPREFIX="/home/sjovan/.wine" wine "C:\Program Files\Fallout2\fallout2.exe" <--- could i just add <space>-doublebuffer after ...exe?
[00:48] <Sinistrad> valros, try to isolate where the problem is (set essid manually, then set IP manually and that sort of thing, and do ping tests and all that)
[00:48] <verb3k> Jack_Sparrow, Stephane Graber is a girl?
[00:48] <valros> hows the ping command go?
[00:49] <Jack_Sparrow> verb3k, I thought so.. not that it matters at all..
[00:49] <sjovan> valros: ping hostename or ip
[00:49] <Jack_Sparrow> verb3k, Just appreciate the work..
[00:49] <Sinistrad> valros, start by pinging the IP of your Access Point (AP), then move on to something further away
[00:49] <verb3k> Jack_Sparrow, xD look here: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/7713515/hackergotchi.png
[00:49] <Sinistrad> valros, I assume your access point works with whatever you're using to connect right now?
[00:50] <valros> my routers IP by ping is "Network is unreachable"
[00:50] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[00:50] <valros> Ya, netgear wireless router
[00:50] <zx-sanji> any1 got an idea  ? when i try to remove the dhcp3-server pckg , the output error is like invoke-rc.d: initscript dhcp3-server, action "stop" failed.  ?
[00:51] <Jordan_U> zx-sanji, You can change the init script to just exit successfully
  what how ? :D
[00:51] <Sinistrad> valros, again, try to isolate where the problem is (set essid manually, then set IP manually and that sort of thing, and do ping tests and all that)
[00:51] <sjovan> zx-sanji: is this in apt-get? if so... have you tryed to force it? -f ?
[00:51] <RAdams> How do you create a server connection to a secure webdav location? I don't see that option under Connect to Server
[00:51] <zx-sanji> apt get
[00:51] <brambo> anyone know a program, prefferably in  .deb for 64bit that I can get to monitor CPU GPU n hard drive temps here in Ubuntu?
[00:51] <sjovan> zx-sanji: so try to force it then :)
[00:51] <Sinistrad> valros, if the router is working, then the system must be wrong.  Set things manually to reasonable values and see if it works
[00:52] <zx-sanji>  triing
[00:52] <Sinistrad> valros, it may end up being that the driver the system (or you, if you pickked it) is using for your wireless card is wrong.
[00:52] <valros> would the wireless part of the router work but the ethernets continue
[00:52] <RAdams> brambo: gkrellm
  the same
[00:52] <saikor> brambo: or mbmon
[00:52] <sjovan> zx-sanji: sudo apt-get -f autoremove packagename --purge
[00:52] <Sinistrad> Valros: you've not verified the wireless side of it?
[00:52] <brambo> they support 64 bit?
[00:53] <Sinistrad> valros,  they're separate hardware on the router, the wirelss and the ethernet
[00:53] <RAdams> brambo: gkrellm does, I don't know about mbmon
[00:53] <valros> yes i know i know, but ive nothing to test it with and would it stop working in the middle of the night?
[00:53] <brambo> Thank you both
[00:53] <Sinistrad> valros, sunspots?
[00:53] <trey__> ok guys i am having a problem with the aperance virtual effects thing when i click custom i get this error: Desktop effects could not be enabled   again... help?
  still same
[00:53] <valros> or aliens?
[00:53] <Guiseppi> There are more people in this IRC channel than there are in my entire school.
[00:53] <Guiseppi> That is amazing.
[00:54] <valros> lol
[00:54] <saikor> trey__: what's the xsessions error log look like.
[00:54] <Sinistrad> valros, sunspots are more likely...it's well-known that they interfere with certain RF applications ;)
[00:54] <omar_> sudo apt-get install  libemeraldengine0 libwnck18  emerald  libwnck-common
[00:54] <Sinistrad> Guiseppi, define 'people'?
[00:54] <trey__> saikor,   ??
[00:54] <RAdams> I need help connecting to an https WebDAV
[00:54] <valros> ok but odd
[00:54] <Guiseppi> I dunno, presences.
[00:54] <Guiseppi> Names.
[00:54] <valros> any ideas on testing the wireless?
[00:54] <brambo> how can I get my registered nick back? I forgot the password, I type my name and password, says its wrong
[00:55] <crdlb> brambo: join #freenode
[00:55] <Sinistrad> valros, I'm beingfacetious, of course, (sunspots only affect long wavelength propogation :P)..  But yeah, try and set some stuff manually, tell me how it goes.
[00:55] <saikor> trey__: it's in your home dir. ~/.xsession-errors
 dpkg: error processing dhcp3-server ,(--purge) : subproces pre-removal script returned error exit status 2
[00:56] <sobersabre> hi.
[00:56] <omar_> OI KIJY
[00:56] <sobersabre> I have a q. about "likewise"
[00:56] <RAdams> !ask | sobersabre
[00:56] <Copter> I cant change resolution to anything other than 1280x1024, (Specifically i want 1024x768) on my 17" CRT ( Radeon X1950 Pro), I get blackScreen. I installed envy, I did the dpkg-reconfigure, no go. xorg.conf paste -> http://rafb.net/p/kgbxTx44.html
[00:56] <Jordan_U> zx-sanji, gksudo gedit /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server
[00:56] <sobersabre> how is it able to map the UNIX UID/GIDs for users ?
[00:56] <sjovan> zx-sanji: maby you are running it or something. ---> ps aux | grep dhcp <--- if you are -->  kill <and the proces number> <--- don't have the <> on my nick, cause then i don't get notifyed. btw... nicks autocompleat in linux. use tab :)
[00:56] <Mark_> I screwed up my lower panel by widening it too much but can't seem to find the right place on the panel now to 'right-click' and restore it to default. Any ideas?
 everithing is fine there
[00:57] <zx-sanji> wall should : :D
[00:57] <trey__> saikor: um... i know i sound like a complete noob but... how do i view that?
[00:58] <Jordan_U> zx-sanji, Yes, but if you can't figure out why it is failing ( and you just want to remove the package ) you can just have the script exit before doing anything.
[00:58] <saikor> trey_: less ~/.xsession-errors
[00:58] <zx-sanji> thats true .. :D
[00:58] <saikor> trey_: error should be near the bottom. Use a pastebin to show us the results.
[01:00] <Sinistrad> valros, Sorry I'm not better help.  Wifi is one of those things that isn't very consistent :)
[01:00] <__mikem> holly crap, what just happened
[01:00] <Jack_Sparrow> __mikem, Housekeeping
[01:00] <Sinistrad> valros, I mean ... invisible waves of electromagnetic energy? wtf?
[01:00] <Mark_> I screwed up my lower panel by widening it too much but can't seem to find the right place on the panel now to 'right-click' and restore it to default. Any ideas?
[01:01] <Mark_> oops disregard that
[01:01] <trey__> saikor: http://www.pastebin.ca/965434
[01:03] <saikor> trey__: did you trying setting to custom appearance settings them looking at the log (straight away)?
[01:03] <saikor>  trey__:  after it fails ofcourse
[01:03] <trey__> saikor: not the split second but... i will do that hold on
[01:03] <MatBoy> damn, I removed compiz and now my FF and so does not appear in my screen anymore :(
[01:04] <zx-sanji> sjovan  it was yust  kill and the prooces number ?
[01:04] <sjovan> zx-sanji: mhm
[01:04] <saikor> trey__: also make sure you go to the bottom of the file
[01:04] <maria_> hey to you all greetings.....i have a proplem with knetworkmanager it doesn't find my wireless card
[01:04] <saikor> trey__:that's where the new stuff will be
[01:04] <maria_> what to do?
[01:05] <elbarto_> hjh
[01:05] <trey__> saikor, how do i get there (oh boy! anouther noob question!!!)
[01:06] <saikor> trey__: no prob. Once you have the file open in 'less'. press page down till the reading on the bottom right says "100%"
[01:06] <brambo> I got both  gkrellm and mbmon but neither show up in my menu...how can I open them?
[01:06] <zx-sanji> sjovan nothing ...
[01:06] <saikor> brambo:  command line is easiesrt
[01:06] <brambo> saikor: you mean the Terminal ?
[01:06] <saikor> brambo: accessories-> terminal. Then type mbmon
[01:06] <saikor> brambo: yeah
[01:07] <VisionOfMalkav> hi all
[01:07] <sjovan> maria_: you prob need ndiswrapper. sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper, and then read  ---> man ndiswrapper
[01:07] <sjovan> zx-sanji: well, if you didn't get a error then you killed the ap.
[01:07] <saikor> brambo: mbmon has to run as root so type. 'sudo mbmon'
[01:07] <brambo> saikor: Sorry, I'm still really new to Linux in general, but I'm learning...I really love Linux...
[01:07] <zx-sanji> sjovan the thin is its not running .. :D
[01:07] <brambo> saikor: oh ok, ty for tip
[01:07] <sjovan> zx-sanji: do another search to be shure. if it's gone, then try to remove it again
[01:07] <TromBoeZoe> hi, how do erase the data from a floppy so that it is "unformatted"
[01:07] <zx-sanji> sjovan  only the  grep dhcp ..
[01:07] <saikor> brambo: no problem.
[01:08] <trey__> saikor: here:                                             http://www.pastebin.ca/965449
[01:08] <VisionOfMalkav> Anyone know what pages upon pages of "SQUASHFS failed reading block / unable to read page / sb_bread failed reading block" when attempting to boot from the LiveCD is all about?
[01:08] <TromBoeZoe> !floppy
[01:09] <CVD-PR> hey
[01:09] <brainiac8008> hey guys, i have an nvidia geforce 6150se.  I want to set up compiz so i tried the nvidia-glx-new driver but upon restarting x i could only get into low-graphics mode.  I'm using a 7.10 livecd.  any ideas?
[01:10] <zx-sanji> sjovan: nothing ...
[01:10] <Johnson_> yo, looking for purify for ubuntu for a c class im taking, can't seem to find it, anyone know where to get it at
[01:11] <saikor> saikor: hmm. I'm not sure. what graphics card do you have?
[01:11] <saikor> lol
[01:11] <saikor> trey_: hmm. I'm not sure. what graphics card do you have?
[01:11] <sjovan> zx-sanji: are you shure? you did do ---> ps aux | grep dhcp <--- or just grep dhcp?
[01:11] <saikor> trey_: and are the drivers installed?
[01:11] <trey__> saikor: intergrated intel
[01:11] <trey__> :=(
[01:11] <user1> sorry ws bumped b4
[01:11] <trey__> =(
[01:12] <zx-sanji> sjovan  ps aux | grep dhcp  ... nothing
[01:12] <zx-sanji> sjovan  just an current thread or search should i say ..
[01:12] <trey__> (^)0.0(^)
[01:12] <sjovan> zx-sanji: okay, but then i'm out of idees :/ make a topic in the forum
[01:13] <kbidd> can anyone tell me how gnash compares to adobe flash player when it comes to performance?
[01:13] <Mark_> anyone know how I can expand a panel so as to easily see the applications running and NOT have the icons on that panel expand as well?
[01:13] <eddyMul> a VM loaded by `kvm -net nic -net user vm.img` cannot resolve names to IPs using qemu's DNS server. Any suggestions?
[01:13] <trey__> saikor... me sad... :...(     <see! i am crying!
[01:13] <Mark_> kbidd, I can't get either to work properly in Firefox
[01:14] <saikor> trey__: try installing emerald from synaptic. I doubt it'll work but it's worth a try.
[01:14] <jjt009> anyone here know anything about mysql?
[01:14] <jjt009> i need some help
[01:14] <user1> So I was wondering if anyone knew how to change the color of the screen that appears between the login screen and the desktop load, seems i could change the login screen to blubuntu and the deskctop screen theme to blubuntu but theres a brown/orange screen that appears after the login screen and before the desktop loads....any ideas on how to change that?
[01:14] <Mark_> kbidd, I tried going to gizmodo and youtube after installing one and then the other and they both stink
[01:14] <Mark_> saikor, what does emerald give you that ccsm doesn't?
[01:14] <trey__> saikor: will do hold on...
[01:15] <zx-sanji> sjovan .. well the server worked yust fine ... when ive changed the config located in /etc/dhcpd.conf , got errors  .. the same ones ... independentli if i change the config once again .. the same output ... by reinstall as well ..
[01:15] <saikor> Mark_: probably nothing.
[01:15] <Survivorman> user1, try going to appearance, background and changing solid color. that might work.
[01:15] <Mark_> saikor, ill ck it out just the same
[01:15] <eddyMul> me switching networks might be the cause. restarting....
[01:15] <zx-sanji> sjovan spend almost 10 hrs tryin to figure it out ..
[01:16] <trooperas> hi from greece :)
[01:16] <Crewsr3> I would like some feedback on a topic - With the next Ubuntu Distro just days away, is it time to go 64 bit or should I stay with 32
[01:17] <amenado> 32
[01:17] <zx-sanji> sjovan  .. anyway cheers for the interest ..  ty
[01:17] <winterwolf> Can anyone message me for one minute, I am trying to see if my private messages are working, I have registered I believe now
[01:17] <valros> I believe my routers wireless network is broken, any diagnosis or fixes?
[01:17] <sjovan> zx-sanji: yeah, and sorry that i couldn't help any more :/
[01:17] <amenado> valros  can you ping your router?
[01:17] <zx-sanji> sjovan> no worries ..
[01:18] <zx-sanji> valros does your router work wit something else ?
[01:18] <crdlb> winterwolf: you are registered and identified
[01:18] <valros> yes, this
[01:18] <valros> im running off it right now, its just the wireless
[01:18] <winterwolf> crdlb: What all is visible to other users?
[01:18] <trey__> saikor: nope! it dont work... :-\
[01:19] <zx-sanji> so you are on ethernet right now  \
[01:19] <zx-sanji>  ?
[01:19] <valros> that or ubuntu refuses to recognize it when it sees others
[01:19] <valros> yes, ehternet now
[01:19] <crdlb> winterwolf: what do you mean?
[01:19] <valros> finally, its working
[01:19] <Crewsr3> I would like some feedback on a topic - With the next Ubuntu Distro just days away, is it time to go 64 bit or should I stay with 32
[01:19] <user1> ill try that Surbivorman
[01:19] <winterwolf> crdlb: I have been on chat networks before where other people we're able to view my IP address and more...That's not very secure
[01:19] <valros> and only when the laptop was subjected to another location
[01:19] <winterwolf> crdlb: is it like that here?
[01:20] <zx-sanji> hmm ..
[01:20] <crdlb> winterwolf: if you want your ip address hidden, ask for a cloak in #freenode
[01:20] <Ava-> ok after updating to hardy everything is lagged as heck in X
[01:20] <saikor> trey: what's the output from lspci | grep VGA
[01:20] <Ava-> I have the correcnt nvidia driver installed
[01:20] <crdlb> winterwolf: look at /whois winterwolf , that's what other people can see
[01:20] <crdlb> for the most part
[01:20] <zx-sanji> valros seems like the signal is too  low for an unknown reason..
[01:20] <Ava-> but it's chuggin
[01:20] <f0rmat> erm i was just wondering when i tried to mount a partition like this "sudo mount -v -t ext3 /dev/sda5 $ADN"  the partition failz to mount saying it already is mounted why would this be :S i cannot unmount from nautilus and every other way failz :(
[01:20] <valros> no ubuntu sees it now
[01:20] <valros> its wierd
[01:20] <valros> only sees it now after i took it to a different location
[01:20] <user1> Survivorman - i checked its actually already set to a solid blue color  :-(
[01:21] <valros> whitewolf im unregistered, cant PM yet
[01:21] <zx-sanji> valros drivers ...
[01:21] <valros> its working now wih the drivers ubuntu came with
[01:21] <winterwolf> crdlb: I have typed that, nothing appears
[01:21] <nabcore> can I use apt to upgrade my gutsy 7.10 to the hardy 8.04 beta?
[01:21] <crdlb> winterwolf: it'll go to your server tab
[01:21] <valros> i hope this doesnt start up again
[01:21] <kelvin911> How to make new open window not sticking to the bottom of the screen?
[01:21] <trey__> saikor: http://www.pastebin.ca/965469
[01:21] <Ava-> I don't suppose there is anyway of downgrading from hardy back to gutsy eh?
[01:22] <amenado> f0rmat-> pastebin your  mount results
[01:22] <Survivorman> user1, how about background color in the login window prefs
[01:22] <trey__> ava: lol
[01:22] <zx-sanji> valros  like my pci wlan .... could get more than 17kb througput ...
[01:22] <RAdams> In mount.davfs, how does one set the option in fstab to always trust the certificate of the share?
[01:22] <user1> Survivorman   hmmm let me check
[01:22] <kelvin911> because i am running awn dock and its very inconvinent to have new open window stick to the bottom of the screen
[01:22] <MatBoy> after I removed compiz and emerald, I have no window decoration anymore, FF won't appear and my splashscreen is hanging
[01:22] <valros> how can i test the current speed of the connection im on?
[01:22] <f0rmat> amenado, No need it isn't that large "mount: /dev/sda5 already mounted or /mnt/adn busy"
[01:23] <zx-sanji> valros try some web based speedmeter
[01:23] <RAdams> valros: www.speedtest.net
[01:23] <user1> Survivorman   its already set to black :-(
[01:23] <valros> thanks, forgot about that
[01:23] <amenado> f0rmat-> what is /mnt/adn busy?
[01:23] <MatBoy> is there a command I should run when I removed compiz ?
[01:23] <MatBoy> and emerald ?
[01:23] <MrBarrett> my amarok wont play mp3 needs decoder.... what do i do? on kubuntu 7.1
[01:23] <f0rmat> i am using $ADN as a shortcut to /dev/sda5
[01:24] <RAdams> !mp3 > MrBarrett
[01:24] <RAdams> Where is the bot?
[01:24] <MatBoy> man, this is annoying :) I have to start my vm to get to the internet :D
[01:24] <zx-sanji> RAdams hmm but there is an bug ..
[01:24] <MrBarrett> !mp3
[01:24] <f0rmat> amenado, i am using $ADN as a shortcut to /dev/sda5
[01:25] <icesword> MatBoy, what vm?
[01:25] <kelvin911> i found that the flash in speedtest.net is really useless
[01:25] <amenado> f0rmat-> what exactly is your command? what is value of $ADN ?
[01:25] <RAdams> zx-sanji: what bug?
[01:25] <zx-sanji> RAdams  with the mp3 ..  and xine .. . broken packages .. and so on ...
[01:25] <MatBoy> icesword, windows :\
[01:25] <icesword> which one,no,whick software you use
[01:25] <MrBarrett> help?
[01:25] <MatBoy> FF won't start, no application does start
[01:25] <RAdams> zx-sanji: Ah.
[01:25] <MatBoy> icesword, vmware
[01:25] <kelvin911> i think http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/ is better
[01:25] <RAdams> MrBarrett: #kubuntu might get you a faster answer
[01:25] <Survivorman> user1, that should have did it. I found the solution in a forum, so maybe, like with me, something like XGL loading interferes with it. I'm not sure. look into this too: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13055
[01:25] <icesword> MatBoy, oh,,,hehehe,you don't need to restart
[01:25] <MrBarrett> been there no responce
[01:26] <MatBoy> icesword, hehe, nicew one :P
[01:26] <destructar> hi all: having issues with mythtv playback... have v4l2 installed via restricted drivers, all videos working proper via VLC, Mplayer and Totem... mythtv fails to play recordings (same recordings work in all other mentioned programs)
[01:26] <MatBoy> I need my Gnome to run again :)
[01:26] <MatBoy> annoying compiz
[01:26] <destructar> i get the error "XvMCTex Init failed"
[01:26] <icesword> MatBoy, wait,let me check
[01:26] <f0rmat> amenado, export ADN=/mnt/adn; mkdir -pv $ADN; sudo mount -v -t ext3 /dev/sda5 $ADN
[01:26] <MatBoy> icesword, ok :)
[01:26] <zx-sanji> RAdams  same thing happened to me, and i yust didnt have nerves  to get over it .. :D
[01:27] <Survivorman> and look into the too user1: http://www.indragunawan.com/2008/03/change-gdm-login-window-background-colour-on-ubuntu-710/
[01:27] <amenado> f0rmat-> and the error you get is ?  /dev/sda5 is busy?
[01:27] <destructar> if i disable v4l2 drivers then mythtv plays recordings and live tv just fine, all other programs unable to perform correctly
[01:27] <icesword> MatBoy, click on edit in vmware>vitual network configure
[01:27] <MatBoy> icesword, ;) my Linux is my host :)
[01:27] <valros> doing speetest.net, ubuntu froze, its been freezing during connections like this
[01:27] <f0rmat> amenado, to be more presise "mount: /dev/sda5 already mounted or /mnt/lfs busy"
[01:27] <icesword> MatBoy, it is same,
[01:27] <zx-sanji> valros ping something
[01:28] <zx-sanji> valros ping  yuour default gateway ..
[01:28] <valros> k
[01:28] <amenado> f0rmat-> well just like it says its already mounted, and I asked you to paste the result of mount but you wont do, so how would we know if it is really mounted?
[01:28] <trey__> saikor: you still there?
[01:28] <f0rmat> amenado, that was the results
[01:28] <amenado> f0rmat-> please paste in pastebin result of  "mount"  command
[01:29] <icesword> MatBoy, in that one,browse to tab dhcp,>dhcp service,>restart>apply,then to nat>nat service>restart>apply
[01:29] <f0rmat> amenado, ok
[01:29] <Dr_willis> the pastebinit command is so handy. :)
[01:29] <zcat[1]> f0rmat: not useful.. the device may be mounted somewhere else.. or some other device may be mounted on that mountpoint..
[01:29] <CookedGryphon> Hi, I'm using the hardy beta and want to rotate my display, the screen resolution dialog only has Normal as an option. I'm using an sis chipset. I had it set up in gutsy by messing with xorg.conf, but i'm not confident messing that since it's all changed over to the bulletproof x thing and can't find any relevant docs
[01:29] <valros> from my router, pings are around .8 ms
[01:29] <saikor> saikor:  sorry was away
[01:29] <trey__> pastebinit
[01:29] <zx-sanji> valros try ping www.google.com -c 5   othervise you will end up with 1000+ requests :D
[01:29] <saikor> trey__: sorry was away.
[01:30] <trey__> saikor: then you misted this is what i get: http://www.pastebin.ca/965469
[01:30] <icesword> MatBoy, you got me, are you using vmware workstation?
[01:30] <MatBoy> icesword, you don't know what I was talking about :)
[01:30] <alteregoa> high
[01:30] <amenado> CookedGryphon-> want to get a stiff neck? try  xrandr -o 3
[01:30] <valros> google pinged, runnin around 20-40 ms
[01:30] <kelvin911> when does ubuntu has this 3d desktop ?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0ODskdEPnQ
[01:30] <alteregoa> does ubuntu overtake debian?
[01:30] <kelvin911> i mean real 3d desktop
[01:30] <Nineaxis> Can anyone help me install ubuntu on a server that currently is running fedora 8?
[01:30] <zcat[1]> kelvin911: when you have a 3d card and the appropriate drivers
[01:30] <alteregoa> this kindergarten desktop isn't productive at all
[01:30] <Merevaik> Hey is there a how to for installing/using windows games on Linux/Ubuntu? I can't find one anywhere and I have no idea what I'm doing >_<
[01:30] <saikor> trey__: definitely an intel chip then. can you run ' glxinfo | grep direct'
[01:30] <zx-sanji> valros hmm .. thats quite high ..
[01:31] <kelvin911> no i mean real 3D desktop not just cube
[01:31] <kelvin911> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0ODskdEPnQ
[01:31] <valros> 20ms to google is high?
[01:31] <icesword> MatBoy, then what is your problem
[01:31] <f0rmat> amenado, http://pastebin.com/d42accb72
[01:31] <zx-sanji> valros try ping www.google.com -c 5 -s 1000
[01:31] <MatBoy> icesword, my gtk window decorator does not work
[01:31] <zcat[1]> kelvin911: how 3d can it get, nobody has a true volumetric display on the market yet
[01:31] <MatBoy> does gnome needs compiz these days by default ?
[01:31] <sk8ball> SATA is hot swappable right?
[01:31] <kelvin911> zcat[1]: look at the youtube link, i dont mean compiz-fusion, i have it, but i want something like that in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0ODskdEPnQ
[01:31] <icesword> hmm
[01:31] <valros> oh god dmanit
[01:31] <EzraEzra> merevaik : yes there is, just a second
[01:31] <zx-sanji> valros  thats really high
[01:32] <Merevaik> Thanks
[01:32] <amenado> f0rmat-> please paste in pastebin result of  "mount"  command  <-- how difficult is this command to issue?
[01:32] <valros> did speedtest and...it froze
[01:32] <Ava-> how can I force a reinstall of hardy?
[01:32] <Nineaxis> ...can anyone help me install ubuntu on a fedora 8 server?
[01:32] <valros> whats with ubuntu freezing on this connection?
[01:32] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. You may want to clarify that a bit Nineaxis
[01:32] <CookedGryphon> amenado: :D but that fails, Failed request BadMatch (Invalid parameter attributes)
[01:32] <zx-sanji> valros   did u tried the  -s 1000 command ?
[01:32] <alteregoa> is SADO masoable?
[01:32] <amenado> f0rmat-> what you showed me is your way of doing things, I asked specifcally.. "mount" only
[01:32] <kelvin911> zcat[1]: look at the link it looks quite real
[01:32] <valros> in a sec
[01:32] <f0rmat> amenado, i don't think you understand that is the only result i am receiving from this console
[01:33] <zx-sanji> valros ping www.google.com -c 5 -s 1000
[01:33] <Nineaxis> Well, I have a server that's currently running Fedora 8, and since Fedora is screwing with me, I want to install ubuntu over it
[01:33] <saikor>  trey__: what's the result from glxinfo | grep direct?
[01:33] <amenado> CookedGryphon-> oh well that works in 7.10  if you want hardy support please visit #ubuntu+1
[01:33] <Ava-> how can I force a reinstall of hardy?
[01:33] <alteregoa> the result is to much proprietary bananas in the ape
[01:33] <zcat[1]> kelvin911: hmmm.. ok. Yes, I've seen that b4 .. it doesn't look all that practical to me. and afaik there's no desktop like that on linux yet.
[01:34] <CookedGryphon> amenado: aha, thanks, i tried #hardy but that didn't exist
[01:34] <amenado> f0rmat-> once more on a terminal just type  mount  by itself..
[01:34] <zx-sanji> valros whats is your main connection ?  wireless as well ?
[01:34] <amenado> !hardy | Ava-
[01:34] <valros> wow!, zx, it was 4 seconds for 5 packets to google
[01:34] <Dr_willis> Nineaxis,  start the installer, format the old system install the new....
[01:34] <f0rmat> amenado, sorry that was my fault i thout you meant in general not mount by itself :(
[01:34] <Dr_willis> Nineaxis,  backing up any impiorntant stuff first - of course
[01:35] <kelvin911> zcat[1]: i know it isnt that practical but it does impress people
[01:35] <valros> but would that speed be due to it being wireless with 2 ethernets connected and in use
[01:35] <kelvin911> it looks cool anyway
[01:35] <trey__> saikor: sorry was away... here: http://www.pastebin.ca/965495
[01:35] <winterwolf> I opened gkrellm through sudo in terminal but when I closed my terminal it also closed gkrellm ...What did I do wrong?
[01:35] <Nineaxis> So I write the .iso file to a disk and stick it in the server and go find the command to execute it?
[01:35] <Astek> cyas
[01:35] <valros> zx-sanji, 4 seconds for google 5 packets to and from
[01:35] <zx-sanji> valros  no ..
[01:35] <mmm4m5m> Help: network is down after reboot. When I restart network, it start working. This is random: http://pastebin.ca/965493
[01:35] <amenado> valros  your host two nics are connected to same router?
[01:36] <Dr_willis> winterwolf,  well theres no need to run it as root.  plus use the 'exit' command do NOT NOT NOT use the terminal windows close button
[01:36] <valros> come again amenado?
[01:36] <zx-sanji> valros   the nics  arent an problem ..
[01:36] <valros> nic?
[01:36] <f0rmat> amenado, http://pastebin.com/d3dd3741a
[01:36] <saikor> trey__: looks like your drivers aren't setup right. Go to system -> Administrator -> restricted drivers.
[01:36] <amenado> mmm4m5m-> pls paste in pastebin your  /etc/network/interfaces file
[01:36] <valros> sorry but whats a "nic"
[01:36] <zcat[1]> kelvin911: I prefer useful stuff like zoom, expo, group and tab, etc.
[01:36] <mmm4m5m> amenado: all is there: http://pastebin.ca/965493
[01:36] <silent132> Hi guys
[01:36] <amenado> valros  your host two nics are connected to same router? <-- what part of this you dont understand?
[01:36] <zx-sanji> valros  sry cisco thing :D
[01:36] <trey__> saikor: ok hold on
[01:36] <sk8ball> SATA is hot swappable right???
[01:36] <EzraEzra> merevaik : sorry i'm gonna search some more; didn't find what i was looking for right now
[01:36] <zx-sanji> valros   mean the ethernet cards .. D:
[01:37] <Merevaik> Ok thanks
[01:37] <saikor> sk8ball: I wouldn't recommend it.
[01:37] <Merevaik> I'm useless :s
[01:37] <sk8ball> saikor, why is that?
[01:37] <valros> i have 2 computers wired to this router and the one ubuntu wireless
[01:37] <zx-sanji> valros so iw works fine  with ethernet  ?
[01:37] <sk8ball> i mean, not on a regular basis or anything
[01:37] <Dr_willis> sk8ball,  not that i have seen actually work.
[01:37] <sk8ball> really just one time thing
[01:37] <saikor> sk8ball: there is no way to tell if a disk has had the buffer flushed. So you could cause corruption
[01:37] <destructar> do i need v4l installed in order to use VLC ?
[01:37] <sk8ball> saikor, what if its a dvdrw
[01:37] <sk8ball> ?
[01:37] <kelvin911> what expo does?
[01:38] <amenado> mmm4m5m-> give me a few,
[01:38] <kelvin911> really?
[01:38] <zx-sanji> valros what was that wor an wireless card ?
[01:38] <valros> im confused on the terminology, what im wondering is why ubuntu is freezing during connections
[01:38] <saikor> sk8ball: hrm...dunno.
[01:38] <zcat[1]> kelvin911: I don't really need a way to make my computer desktop as messy as my real desktop.. I can live without that
[01:38] <valros> integrated 802.11b/g in the dell
[01:38] <saikor> sk8ball: you could give it a go and let us know, but if you break something don't blame me.
[01:38] <zx-sanji> valros  intel one ?
[01:38] <valros> yexz
[01:38] <sk8ball> alright
[01:38] <valros> yes
[01:38]  * sk8ball crosses his toes
[01:38] <zx-sanji> valros  model number ?
[01:38] <amenado> f0rmat-> something is amiss, also please  paste your  sudo fdisk -l    results
[01:39] <kelvin911> my  real desktop is like a pile of trash
[01:39] <zerosignal> anyone know if there is a way to control how ubuntu controls my hdd on my laptop?  like I have a suspicion that whenever the drive isnt being used its being "spun down"
[01:39] <valros> oh sorry, gateway not dell
[01:39] <trey__> saikor: looks like i have to install somthing ;) lol: http://www.pastebin.ca/965498
[01:39] <zx-sanji> valroswell ive got an dell latitude d620 ... it works fine ..
[01:39] <valros> gateway model is WS40UA
[01:39] <silent132> Question: I have two Hard drives-if i instal ubuntu on one, will i be able to access the files i backed up on the other on?
[01:39] <valros> W340UA*
[01:39] <kelvin911> beer bottles, pop can, flash light, papers books, razar, coffees, my yesterdays dinner and stuffs
[01:39] <saikor> saikor: go ahead and install it :)
[01:39] <saikor> gah
[01:40] <valros> also listed as a model# MT3423
[01:40] <alan_m> silent132, depends on what the other one is formatted as I believe.
[01:40] <zcat[1]> so is mine .. If I could click a menu and have my real desktop look like my ubuntu desktop, then I would do that.. but being able to scatter icons randomly and pile them up, no thanks..
[01:40] <Ava-> IS there any way to force a re-install of hardy?!
[01:40] <saikor> trey: go ahead and install it
[01:40] <Dr_willis> zerosignal,  the hdparm command can tweak that. Thers a lot of discussion about over-kill-powersaving for hard drives under ubuntu, in the forums.
[01:40] <amenado> mmm4m5m-> having to interfaces  connecting to same router/gateway  how do you expect your host to choose which gateway to pick or which nic should the packets come out of?
[01:40] <mactaylor> will 64bit boost performance?????????????
[01:40] <zerosignal> Dr_willis ok thanks let me see what I can find
[01:40] <IdleOne> Ava-, yeah pop in the cd
[01:40] <Falling-Inferno> !ipod
[01:40] <Ava-> Idle: without the CD
[01:40] <zcat[1]> !64bit\
[01:40] <silent132> alan-i think its formatted for windows, but i dont think it has an OS on it.
[01:40] <zx-sanji> valros hmmm ..
[01:40] <amenado> mmm4m5m-> having two* interfaces  connecting to same router/gateway  how do you expect your host to choose which gateway to pick or which nic should the packets come out of?
[01:41] <IdleOne> Ava-, none that I have heard of
[01:41] <zcat[1]> !botsnack
[01:41] <zcat[1]> ..ok, who killed it this time
[01:41] <Falling-Inferno> !ipos
[01:41] <IdleOne> Yum! I mean APT!
[01:41] <Falling-Inferno> !ipod
[01:41] <IdleOne> :P
[01:41] <alan_m> silent132, fat32, fa16, ntfs...what is it formatted under?
[01:41] <mactaylor> yes or no?
[01:41] <IdleOne> bots are down
[01:41] <zcat[1]> !64bit
[01:41] <silent132> alan-oh sorry i believe it is ntfs
[01:41] <zx-sanji> valros hmmm .. try to read here   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=551596
[01:41] <zcat[1]> IdleOne: Grrr.. you confused me!
[01:41] <valros>      /msg nickserv register argus
[01:41] <mmm4m5m> amenado: I do not know :), let me think a litle :)
[01:41] <IdleOne> zcat[1], lol
[01:42] <amenado> f0rmat-> something is amiss, also please  paste your  sudo fdisk -l    results  <-- anything ?
[01:42] <crdlb> valros: make sure you don't use that password :)
[01:42] <alan_m> silent132, you should have no problems with read/write access to it, and should be able to copy everything...if thats what your asking about silent132
[01:42] <f0rmat> amenado, i can't beleive it..... thankyou so much when i ran that command i saw that the mount points were switched from sda5 to sda3
[01:42] <f0rmat> :(
[01:42] <valros> lol
[01:42] <f0rmat> thankyou
[01:42] <amenado> f0rmat you're welcome
[01:43] <mrkeishii> whats up?
[01:43] <Merevaik> The roof :D
[01:43] <zx-sanji> valros well.. cant help ypu more ..
[01:43] <valros> ok, thanks im looking at the forum post
[01:43] <silent132> alan_m, ya i put all my music and movies on it. In the past i installed kubuntu and it wojuldnt read the other hard drive.
[01:44] <mrkeishii> Kubuntu looks great
[01:44] <amenado> valros  your host (ubuntu) has two nics and are connected to same router?
[01:44] <trey__> saikor: where do i get: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-server ??
[01:44] <sk8ball> well it got power and everything fine opened/closed etc... but it took a reboot to get ubuntu to recognize it
[01:44] <mrkeishii> but is Kubuntu better than Ubuntu?
[01:44] <valros> ....explanation to someone who knows nothing about linux?
[01:44] <mmm4m5m> amenado: I want br0 to get IP from dhcp. I want to use br0 for all connections. and I am not sure about eth0, mostly have be static IP? does it have to be the same subnet (192.168.11.xxx)?
[01:44] <alan_m> !ot | mrkeishii
[01:44] <saikor> open up synaptic package manager. under system -> administration.
[01:45] <Jaden> How do I get wine installed?
[01:45] <mrkeishii> yes alan
[01:45] <soyeur> sudo apt-get install wine
[01:45] <mrkeishii> Jaden: go to winehq.com
[01:45] <MatBoy> is compiz default running on Ubuntu these days ?
[01:45] <mrkeishii> yeah like soyeur said
[01:45] <trey__> matboy: no :(
[01:45] <Jaden> cool thanks
[01:45] <soyeur> MatBoy: On Gutsy Gibbon (Compiz-Fusion)
[01:45] <mrkeishii> np
[01:45] <amenado> mmm4m5m-> the key is the route table, but thats a bit of an advanced topic, so just have one route to get out of your subnet and one nic to get to same subnet
[01:45] <soyeur> As well as Hardy Heron
[01:45] <mrkeishii> how do you install Beryl?
[01:45] <MatBoy> trey__, mhh, I removed it + emerald and I lost my window decoration
[01:45] <valros> amenado say that again?
[01:45] <zx-sanji> valros ... get some other wireless from carboot ... and thats it ..  5 quid .. the cheapest solution ..
[01:46] <trey__> saikor: i did that but i cant find it...
[01:46] <soyeur> MatBoy: Reinstall it?
[01:46] <valros> get another wireless router or card?
[01:46] <zx-sanji> valros wireless .
[01:46] <soyeur> mrkeishii: You probably don't want beryl...
[01:46] <mrkeishii> y is that
[01:46] <trey__> matboy: sounds bad... i feel sorry for you... im just trying to get it installed now...
[01:46] <amenado> valros  your host (ubuntu) has two nics? are connected to same router?
[01:46] <soyeur> mrkeishii: The Beryl Project has been merged into the Compiz project to form Compiz-Fusion, which is default on Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon and up
[01:47] <mrkeishii> oh okay
[01:47] <saikor> trey__: do a search for linux-restricted-modules in the manager.
[01:47] <zx-sanji> amenado his wireless card is not fully suported ..
[01:47] <valros> amenado, i dont get what your saying, say it to someone with basic knowledge please?
[01:47] <mrkeishii> but i like the 3d block thing and other features though
[01:47] <Flare183> Moose: see?
[01:47] <soyeur> mrkeishii: If you want the cool effects, download the
[01:47] <amenado> zx-sanji-> ahh the infamous broadcom  bcm43xx ..hehe
[01:47] <soyeur> Compiz Control Settings Control Panel
[01:47] <trey__> linux-restricted-modules ok! i did one diferantly... brb
[01:47] <mrkeishii> from where
[01:47] <soyeur> Just do a search in Synaptic for "Compiz Control Panel"
[01:47] <soyeur> you should find it
[01:47] <anteaya> I need to add a path to $PATH so it is available regardless of whether I open and close my terminal, (it's a gem)
[01:48] <soyeur> There, you can enable effects like the 3D cube
[01:48] <amenado> valros-> its okay... good luck
[01:48] <mrkeishii> thanks alot
[01:48] <MatBoy> soyeur, reinstall what ?
[01:48] <valros> now im downloading the ndiswrapper drivers
[01:48] <valros> hopefully they'll work
[01:48] <soyeur> MatBoy: Reinstall Compiz-Fusion?
[01:48] <amenado> anteaya-> add it to your .bashrc or .bash_profile if you got one?
[01:48] <MatBoy> soyeur, it doesn't work on 4 screens with different resolutions
[01:49] <valros> is there an apt-get install for alsa drivers, lib, utils?
[01:49] <MatBoy> soyeur, so I don't need it, but I want my default windows back
[01:49] <soyeur> Then just use metacity instead?
[01:49] <mrkeishii> idk
[01:49] <mmm4m5m> amenado: I am learning linux language now, not sure I understand you very well. I mean - 10x for help, at least I know what to read now (I do not mind route tables or anything, but windows everything is mostly clicking). If it simple, can you tell me how interface file must looks like?
[01:49] <mrkeishii> it can't find any
[01:49] <anteaya> amenado: .bashrc is open, where do i add it, and what should it look like?
[01:49] <soyeur> Reinstall Emerald, and then right click the emerald icon and choose "Use Metacity"
[01:49] <soyeur> Then you will have the regular WM
[01:49] <mrkeishii> I just typed Compiz Control Panel
[01:50] <MatBoy> soyeur, doesn't work
[01:50] <mrkeishii> and it pop up in side bar, but no pakages installed.
[01:50] <Djmack> How hard is it to get a static IP?
[01:50] <mrkeishii> So how do i get that 3d cube and all other effects?
[01:50] <amenado> mmm4m5m-> im not sure you can learn linux language, there is none that I know of, perhaps bash or python or perl..  you can "cat /etc/network/interfaces"
[01:51] <amenado> anteaya-> at the end, then log out or to take effect "source" .bashrc
[01:51] <mrkeishii> IDK
[01:51] <Ava-> the prefix for gutsy and hardy is still /usr corrent? not /usr/local?
[01:51] <anteaya> amenado: what should the added code look like?
[01:51] <mrkeishii> i would love to have those nice effects but idk how to get them???
[01:52] <Djmack> How hard is it to get a static IP?
[01:52] <amenado> anteaya->  export PATH=/new/added/path:$PATH
[01:52] <osenvironment> heheh,how hard？
[01:52] <trey__> saikor: error upon error upon error! ( =(     ) now i get: http://www.pastebin.ca/965517    but i have my cd in (pulls hair out...)
[01:52] <amenado> Djmack-> you have to pay an arm and a leg
[01:52] <anteaya> amenado: thanks will try
[01:52] <Ava-> this must be #ignore Ava-
[01:53] <Djmack> so it is something i buy from my service provider
[01:53] <epitron> does anyone here know how anything about fontconfig? it's having a strange problem: "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont: failed to write cache"
[01:53] <epitron> it's blocking me from finishing the install of X
[01:53] <amenado> Djmack-> yes if you want it registered under your entity, and have entries in the official name servers
[01:53] <saikor> trey__:  open up /etc/apt/sources.list in a text editor and delete the lines that reference your cdrom.
[01:54] <mrkeishii> So how do i get the compiz control panel up?
[01:54] <saikor> trey__: then it'll just get the file from the web instead.
[01:54] <jrr> ubuntu 8.0.4 (linux 2.6.24-12-server): i'm trying to compile a driver that stopped working at kernel 2.6.23.  is it possible to downgrade to another ubuntu-packaged kernel?
[01:54] <amenado> jrr please visit #ubuntu+1
[01:54] <jrr> okie dokle
[01:54] <jrr> thanks
[01:55] <valros> is the bot down?
[01:55] <mrkeishii> nvm i searched for it on add/remove apps
[01:55] <winterwolf> I can't seem to get  Java Runtime Enviroment to run and work, can someone help me install it? My browser finds it and says it needs it but can't get it automatically
[01:55] <valros> winterwolf, what browser'
[01:56] <Djmack> well... my cousin mentioned to me that i could make some money off hosting Website back-ups on my computer... and my plan was, if i got this set up. i would just borrow my friends blade server. and use it untill i could get my own
[01:56] <winterwolf> valros: I use  Flock cause Youtube works better on it
[01:56] <winterwolf> valros: but it does this same thing with FireFox
[01:56] <valros> never heard of it, and i dont think adobe will recognize it
[01:56] <amenado> winterwolf-> sudo  apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin sun-java5-fonts
[01:56] <erisco> my open office transitions are playing at a snail's pace... at best 1fps, which makes it extremely crappy and choppy. what's up with that?
[01:57] <Stroganoff> i'll never get that "free" command. could some1 tell me how much RAM is actually consumed? http://pastebin.com/m4cfde2d9
[01:57] <amenado> erisco if I was watching your presentation and you flipped pages that fast, im walking out
[01:57] <erisco> Stroganoff, free -m
[01:57] <zcat[1]> Stroganoff: on my laptop.. generally all of it..
[01:58] <erisco> amenado, what?
[01:58] <Djmack> you think verizon (my provider) provides a residential internet with static IP?  cause im looking at some packages and they come with a bunch of crap that i dont want
[01:58] <Stroganoff> erisco, i am able to devide by 1000
[01:58] <erisco> Stroganoff, what?
[01:58] <amenado> erisco-> do you realize how fast 1 frame per second is for an audience to capture the info?
[01:58] <erisco> amenado, did you even read my problem?
[01:58] <zcat[1]> amenado: he's talking about the transitions.. the nice slide/fade effects between slides
[01:58] <amenado> erisco that is my interpretation of your problem
[01:59] <erisco> amenado, read again then :s
[01:59] <reeeh2000> Hello all, I am trying to hook up a Xbox 360 wired controller to be used with Gusty Gibbon, any one know of an up to date how to?
[01:59] <amenado> erisco nope, do your thing and suffer
[01:59] <erisco> both you and Stroganoff are out to lunch
[01:59] <zcat[1]> btw I would like an answer also... the transition effects in OOo suck and I've never got them to work smoothly
[01:59] <winterwolf> Maybe this can help....This is what I get when i typed that, amenado .   http://paste.ubuntu.com/6313/
[02:00] <amenado> erisco you dont comprehend user interface, you expect the crowd to understand your  presentation?
[02:00] <Nineaxis> What's the difference between the "live installer" and "alternate desktop"?
[02:00] <nikrud> amenado that wasn't exactly kind
[02:00] <DOOM_NX> can anybody suggest the best DC client for ubuntu?
[02:01] <erisco> nikrud, its fine, I have no idea what he is talking about
[02:01] <saikor> Stroganoff: cat /proc/meminfo might be better for you.
[02:01] <amenado> nikrud am crude sometimes, im trying to get a point across
[02:01] <MatBoy> it seems that gnome-compiz is a needed package in default gnome
[02:01] <valros> is there a terminal command, sudo cd + <directory in current folder>
[02:01] <valros> or such
[02:01] <erisco> valros, how do you mean?
[02:01] <Nineaxis> ...what's the difference between the live cd and alternate desktop cd?
[02:01] <amenado> winterwolf-> you have like synaptic running at same time? or other dpkg or apt-get  running?
[02:02] <Daisuke_Ido> one's live, one's just an installer
[02:02] <valros> well, cd - goes back one i want to go forward one, not go back and type the whole link
[02:02] <osenvironment> !alternate > Nineaxis
[02:02] <nikrud> Nineaxis live cd can boot into a graphical desktop, and install. Alternate is installer only, text based, but installs on more hardware
[02:02] <erisco> valros, cd directory_name
[02:02] <prohna> Hello!
[02:02] <zx-sanji> valros  type dir
[02:02] <erisco> valros, you are perhaps doing cd /directory_name, which starts back at root
[02:02] <valros> ya
[02:02] <prohna> im having an issue getting anything to transfer songs to my ipod
[02:02] <Nineaxis> What would I use on a server?
[02:02] <valros> so just type tje directory?
[02:02] <Nineaxis> ALternate?
[02:02] <prohna> ive tried gtkpod amarok banshee
[02:03] <valros> type*
[02:03] <erisco> valros, okay, so don't use an absolute path, use a relative path ;)
[02:03] <eddyMul>  I'm running kvm/qemu under Ubuntu Gutsy. Is this the right place to ask for help w.r.t. user-mode DNS server (at 10.0.2.3) failing to resolve IPs?
[02:03] <nikrud> prohna an newer classic or 3g nano?
[02:03] <prohna> they all say theyre transfering but the ipod doesnt see any songs
[02:03] <IndyGunFreak> !enter | prohna
[02:03] <zx-sanji> valros   you need to understant the topology of file folders a bit ..
[02:03] <IndyGunFreak> eh, ubotu is dead
[02:03] <valros> i probably do
[02:03] <prohna> nikrud: newer
[02:03] <osenvironment> how come
[02:03] <IndyGunFreak> prohna: is it a really new ipod?
[02:03] <prohna> yes
[02:03] <prohna> just bought it today
[02:03] <zx-sanji> valros   what you are trying to open ?
[02:03] <prohna> 80gb video
[02:03] <IndyGunFreak> is it a touch?
[02:03] <nikrud> prohna apple changed stuff out from under you, when hardy is released it will support them
[02:03] <prohna> not a touch
[02:03] <erisco> valros, if the directory you are in no contains the folder "foo", then cd foo will change to that folder
[02:04] <nathan42100> hey, ummmm, I used to be able to mount my NTFS-3G drives, now I can't. No error or anything. Checked the log, nothing there either. I just updated something a few hours ago, but I don't remember what. I can't find it in the logs
[02:04] <valros> oh just installing alsa, is there an apt-get alsa package?
[02:04] <amenado> eddyMul-> possibly, doesnt kvm/qemu runs a name server ?
[02:04] <erisco> valros, and you can know what is in the current directory by typing ls
[02:04] <IndyGunFreak> prohna: it depends on how long its been sitting on the shelf, wether it will work or not
[02:04] <brambo_> Sorry, I got disconnected, I dont know if anyone got what i said before... http://paste.ubuntu.com/6313/ what did i do wrong here?
[02:04] <Erickj92> how do i get unreal ircd?
[02:04] <prohna> IndyGunFreak: how is that?
[02:04] <amenado> brambo_-> description of problem?
[02:05] <IndyGunFreak> prohna: apple changed the really new ones, so they don't wrk very well w/ linux.(but will when ubuntu hardy is released next month)
[02:05] <brambo_> amenado: I typed what you put for me about the Java, and that is what I get here, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6313/  in my terminal
[02:05] <eddyMul> amenado: yes, qemu runs a name server. however, this name server is not resolving my vm's DNS requests (tested from fedora 8 guest and winxp guest)
[02:05] <IndyGunFreak> prohna: i have a 4gig nano, and 30gig video, they work fine
[02:05] <saikor> brambo_:  looks like you've got synaptic open. Which is locking it
[02:05] <nathan42100> !mount
[02:05] <amenado> brambo_-> you have like synaptic running at same time? or other dpkg or apt-get  running?
[02:05] <user1> Than you SurvivorMan that fixed it
[02:05] <nathan42100> hey, ummmm, I used to be able to mount my NTFS-3G drives, now I can't. No error or anything. Checked the log, nothing there either. I just updated something a few hours ago, but I don't remember what. I can't find it in the logs
[02:05] <brambo_> saikor: I closed synaptic...wait I'll try again
[02:06] <Jordan_U> nathan42100, What are you doing to try to mount them?
[02:06] <nathan42100> just double clicking on them
[02:06] <nathan42100> it asks for the pass, I put it in
[02:06] <amenado> eddyMul-> is qemu name server getting a feed from a real name server?
[02:06] <prohna> stupid apple
[02:06] <nathan42100> and then it takes me to /
[02:06] <brambo_> saikor: ok I have closed it but now I am getting a different message,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6314/
[02:07] <IndyGunFreak> prohna: funny thing is, microsoft players work under Linux w/o issue..lol
[02:07] <Ava-> is the prefix still /usr on hardy and gutsy?
[02:07] <Ava-> someone please flippin answer me
[02:07] <jjt009> hey dudes
[02:07] <prohna> so anyone got an idea how to rig it to work for now?
[02:07] <jjt009> is this the IRC channel with the largest number of members?
[02:07] <amenado> eddyMul-> rather it should just resolve the vm  local ip addresses and pass on along to real name servers for resolving addresses like www.yahoo.com
[02:07] <nikrud> brambo_ you running 64bit? if so, sun never made a 64bit browser plugin
[02:07] <Jordan_U> nathan42100, Are you a member of the 'fuse' group and can you pastebin the output of "mount" ?
[02:07] <prohna> its weird because if i open the ipod in amarok or something i can see the songs
[02:07] <prohna> but just cant on the actual ipod
[02:08] <Ava-> ??!?!?!
[02:08] <jjt009> 1178 people..whoah
[02:08] <brambo_> nikrud:  yes I am on 64bit....So I cannot ever use that plugin ?
[02:08] <eddyMul> amenado: so, it looks like qemu's dns server is not passing the vm's dns requests to my dns server....
[02:08] <kelvin911> do i need a firewall?
[02:08] <IndyGunFreak> prohna: don't know.
[02:08] <nikrud> prohna yeah, the linux stuff broke the database
[02:08] <IndyGunFreak> kelvin911: don't know, do you?
[02:08] <Jordan_U> !ipod | prohna
[02:08] <nathan42100> jordan_u, just "mount" and no, not fuse
[02:08] <kelvin911> i dont know
[02:08] <saikor> brambo_: I'm sorry I haven't read your original problem. Have you tried installing sun-java5-plugin through synaptic?
[02:08] <anteaya> amenado: I followed your instructions which got the PATH in the $PATH, but the gem is still not working for me http://pastie.caboo.se/173507
[02:08] <godlygeek> can uswsusp be made to work with a swap file, rather than partition, in gutsy?
[02:08] <kelvin911> i am not running any firewall or anti-virus here
[02:08] <IndyGunFreak> Jordan_U: i think ubotu is on break
[02:08] <valros> i got this error again, what package is needed i forgot, error: C compiler cannot create executables
[02:08] <kelvin911> am i okay?
[02:08] <amenado> eddyMul-> if your guest cant resolve an ip address of www.yahoo.com yeah..its not passing it
[02:09] <brambo_> saikor: I think I have but one minute, I will double check
[02:09] <anteaya> amenado: a realize the gems is not an ubuntu area of expertise
[02:09] <IndyGunFreak> kelvin911: most likely you're fine...
[02:09] <prohna> broke the database as in?
[02:09] <Jordan_U> IndyGunFreak, ubotwo as well :(
[02:09] <nikrud> Ava- the question is not very complete. /usr will be around as long as unix is
[02:09] <prohna> would syncing it up with a windows box fix it for now?
[02:09] <IndyGunFreak> Jordan_U: slackers..lol
[02:09] <nikrud> prohna yes.
[02:09] <anteaya> amenado: but i though i would get back to you
[02:09] <amenado> anteaya-> all you asked earlier is how to add  a PATH at logon noh? or available on all your windows?
[02:09] <IndyGunFreak> prohna: should
[02:09] <anteaya> amenado: yes that is true
[02:09] <prohna> okay question then
[02:09] <prohna> can itunes be run under wine?
[02:09] <nikrud> prohna no :)
[02:09] <IndyGunFreak> prohna: no
[02:10] <anteaya> amenado; and thank you
[02:10] <tifine> i want to give the fix ip address to pc so that no body else can get that ip is it possible ?
[02:10] <prohna> dang
[02:10] <osenvironment> ahhh,
[02:10] <prohna> its like the worlds out to get me lol
[02:10] <brambo_> saikor: sun java 5 jdk fonts demo doc ? or just all of it?
[02:10] <Jordan_U> prohna, There is a way to get new ipods to work with amarok, let me find the link
[02:10] <amenado> anteaya-> so you got the PATH okay?  gem is a different problem right?
[02:10] <nikrud> prohna you can wait 3 weeks, right?
[02:10] <prohna> i guess
[02:10] <Ava-> nikrud: for feisty I always hade to ./configure --prefix=/usr because of where feisty stored it's stuff
[02:10] <osenvironment> today is april fool day,and i was fooled by google
[02:10] <IndyGunFreak> prohna: na, you just need to exchange your ipod for a zune...lol
[02:10] <prohna> sucks though
[02:10] <Nineaxis> How do you start the ubuntu installer in text based fedora?
[02:10] <Ava-> just wondered if that has changed with gutsy and hardy
[02:10] <anteaya> amenado: you are correct and thank you
[02:10] <nikrud> Ava- yes. That is standard for all unix's, will never change.
[02:10] <valros> i got this error again, what package is needed i forgot, error: C compiler cannot create executables
[02:10] <amenado> anteaya-> Make sure you have the 'universe' component enabled <-- clue
[02:11] <Jordan_U> Nineaxis, Can you please be more clear?
[02:11] <nathan42100> Jordan_u, just "mount" and no, not fuse
[02:11] <Ava-> nikrud: some distros are /usr/local
[02:11] <nikrud> Ava- and you an use  /usr/local for locally compiled stuff, I always do
[02:11] <Ava-> aren't they?
[02:11] <trey__> saikor... hanging in there? im still trying to open restricted drivers (installing somthin for that now...) do you remember me?
[02:11] <anteaya> amenado: i thank you i will look
[02:11] <Erickj92> i cant connect to any IRC network on my Ubuntu machine, what could be going on?
[02:11] <saikor> trey__: yeah :)
[02:11] <IndyGunFreak> Erickj92: does it have internet access?
[02:11] <Ava-> for feisty when I installed mythtv I always had to --prefix=/usr or it wouldn't work
[02:11] <Ava-> and find it's libs
[02:11] <brambo_> saikor: should I get Java 5 or 6? I see both
[02:11] <Nineaxis> Jordan- I have the ubuntu alternate desktop installer on a cd, in my server currently running Fedora 8, and being a linux n00b, I don't know how to start it
[02:11] <Erickj92> IndyGunFreak, yes.. i get connection refused when i try to connect to one
[02:11] <nikrud> Ava- the idea is /usr  is for packaged up stuff. /usr/local is where you put your own stuff. /usr/local/lib should be fine
[02:11] <saikor> brambo_: personally I'd go for 6
[02:12] <trey__> saikor: good didnt want to run through every thing again! LOL! ;)
[02:12] <IndyGunFreak> Erickj92: do you ahve a firewall that could be not allowing it to run?
[02:12] <Erickj92> IndyGunFreak, i have a firewall, but i thought i disabled it
[02:12] <IndyGunFreak> Erickj92: software or hardware?
[02:12] <brambo_> saikor: 5 and 6,  6 is just an updated version?
[02:12] <Erickj92> IndyGunFreak, software, and a linksys router
[02:12] <nikrud> Ava- ah, /etc/ld.conf.d/glibc should have /usr/local/lib in it, which makes libs in /usr/local/lib available
[02:13] <saikor> brambo_: yeah
[02:13] <Erickj92> IndyGunFreak, it has worked before
[02:13] <IndyGunFreak> Erickj92: i'm guessing that software router is causing your issue.
[02:13] <Erickj92> IndyGunFreak, software router?
[02:13] <IndyGunFreak> *software firewall..
[02:13] <IndyGunFreak> my bad
[02:13] <Erickj92> oh, ok
[02:13] <IndyGunFreak> tired
[02:13] <Erickj92> IndyGunFreak, i have firestarter
[02:13] <brambo_> saikor: once I get this, should firefox realize its there and use it to run certain things?
[02:14] <nathan42100> hey, ummmm, I used to be able to mount my NTFS-3G drives, now I can't. No error or anything. Checked the log, nothing there either. I just updated something a few hours ago, either libc6 or libpq5.
[02:14] <brambo_> saikor: for the sites that it will work with
[02:14] <Merevaik> Ok I gtg, thanks anyway EzraEzra
[02:14] <IndyGunFreak> Erickj92: i know nothing about linux s/w firewalls, but i'm guesing thats where your issue is gonna be
[02:14] <Erickj92> IndyGunFreak, that fixed it :)
[02:14] <Erickj92> thank you
[02:14] <nikrud> nathan42100 after upgrading libc6 it's usually good to reboot. Have you done that?
[02:14] <IndyGunFreak> Erickj92: i figured
[02:14] <Ava-> is there anyway to force a reinstall of hardy?
[02:14] <Ava-> my gdm is running so slow it's unusuable
[02:14] <nathan42100> nikrud, yeah
[02:14] <saikor> saikor: it should work. If it doesn't firefox should popup and ask you to install plugins. Then just select java 6 plugin and it will work fine.
[02:14] <Ava-> and i've tried 2 different nvidia drivers thinking thatmight be the problem
[02:14] <nikrud> Ava- a fresh install is a forced install
[02:15] <nathan42100> though it should tell you that, especially for the newbs like me
[02:15] <Ava-> I have no blank cd's and I only have inet
[02:15] <saikor> brambo: it should work. If it doesn't firefox should popup and ask you to install plugins. Then just select java 6 plugin and it will work fine.
[02:15] <kartMMAn> m
[02:15] <nikrud> nathan42100   tail -f /var/log/syslog , you should see some messages when you doubleclick and enter your password
[02:15] <Ava-> and I won't wanna lose a lot of what I have on this hard drive
[02:15] <nikrud> nathan42100 that is, type the /var/log/syslog
[02:15] <erisco> why is open office so slow?!?!?!?!?!
[02:15] <brambo_> saikor: i caught what ya said, its ok u didnt have to repeat it ;)
[02:15] <ross`_> hey, i can keep hitting back in shell and see all the way to my first command
[02:15] <erisco> it is taking an EON to save my three slide presentation!!!!
[02:15] <ross`_> im wondering what the file is
[02:15] <ross`_> so i can search it
[02:15] <nathan42100> nikrud, im confused, what?
[02:16] <ross`_> what file is all your commands you did saved in
[02:16] <valros> what package fixes this error, ive done it before but forgot, error: C compiler cannot create executables
[02:16] <nikrud> Ava- you should backup, and on this install add a partition for /home  also, !clone below will help you with resetting packages
[02:16] <nikrud> !clone | Ava-
[02:16] <nikrud> nathan42100   :)   type   tail -f /var/log/syslog    in a terminal, it will echo any messages while you mount/unmount partitions
[02:16] <brambo_> is there any major reason why I should go to Hardy vs staying with Gutsy? I have some people telling my Hardy is better in ways
[02:16] <erisco> over two minutes so far and 75% complete saving a 3 slide presentation
[02:17] <erisco> does anyone else have MAJOR performance issues with open office??
[02:17]  * IndyGunFreak begins performing CPR on ubotu and ubotwo
[02:17] <nikrud> brambo_ it is, but it's still rough in spots. If you can't fix broken stuff, wait
[02:17] <IndyGunFreak> erisco: no, it works great for me
[02:17] <VTBuc> hi does anyone here have experience with AbiWord in 8.04?
[02:17] <Colmena> hi
[02:17] <brambo_> nikrud: then I will wait, cause I'm still really new to linux in general
[02:17] <erisco> IndyGunFreak, all my animations are choppy as hell and take about 10 seconds to load
[02:17] <IndyGunFreak> VTBuc: #ubunt+1 for hardy questions
[02:17] <nathan42100> nikrud: Mar 31 21:17:01 nsh-ubuntu /USR/SBIN/CRON[6830]: (root) CMD (   cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly)
[02:17] <nathan42100> thats it
[02:17] <nikrud> VTBuc #ubuntu+1 is handling hardy questions until release
[02:17] <VTBuc> ah thank you
[02:17] <ross`_> can someone tell me what the file is located to see al the commands as you have done? instead of hitting an arow key a million times to search for one? thank you
[02:17] <Colmena> i want to install my video nvidia 9600 gt
[02:18] <erisco> IndyGunFreak, and it takes me about 4 minutes to save... three slides...
[02:18] <Colmena> how?
[02:18] <bobsomebody> when i run gnome-panel-screenshot i get an error "cannot open display:" and i cant seem to find a solution to this problem :/
[02:18] <erisco> WHOA, they have 9000's?
[02:18] <nikrud> nathan42100 that's not the message I'm looking for. Could be hald is not running , type   sudo /etc/init.d/hal restart
[02:18] <erisco> am I that behind?
[02:18] <osenvironment> bash_history?
[02:18] <IndyGunFreak> erisco: i don't know, i don't usually make slides with it, just write nasty letters to the editor, nasty letters tot he homeowners association, etc.
[02:18]  * nikrud never argues with nasty gun holders
[02:19] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[02:19] <nathan42100> nikrud: nope, still not mounting
[02:19] <nikrud> nathan42100 not sure what it is then. what is the partition you're looking at?
[02:19] <brambo_> saikor: have you received my private message?
[02:19] <saikor> brambo_:  no
[02:20] <nathan42100> nikrud: both the main partition on the primary and main on the secondary, Both NTFS. the dellutility partition still loads as normal, not NTFS
[02:20] <IndyGunFreak> brambo_: only registered users can send/receive pmS
[02:21] <erisco> I think open office has a memory leak with images
[02:21] <erisco> or something
[02:21] <nikrud> nathan42100 but what are the actual partition devices? /dev/sda1? or some other?  when you know, type   sudo mount /dev/<partition> /mnt  in a terminal, see what message you get
[02:21] <bruenig> erisco: java.
[02:21] <brambo_> saikor: I ran into a program in Synaptic while installing Java 6...This package is an installer package, it does not actually contrain the JDK documentation.  You will need to go download one of the archives:
[02:21] <erisco> bruenig, its java? should have guessed
[02:21] <trey__> saikor, looks like i have to reboot now hold on...
[02:21] <erisco> why do I have HUGE performance issues with java?
[02:21] <nathan42100> nikrud: how do I find that?
[02:21] <erisco> I cannot even run eclipse
[02:22] <nikrud> nathan42100   sudo fdisk -l
[02:22] <brambo_> saikor: says press return to try again i do and it doesnt work
[02:22] <bruenig> erisco: because java is awful
[02:22] <erisco> it freaking locks and hangs and takes 10 seconds to do a simple text insertion
[02:22] <nikrud> erisco you did   sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre  ?
[02:22] <erisco> nikrud, if I didn't have that, I wouldn't be using java
[02:22] <prohna> can i upgrade to hardy now?
[02:22] <nikrud> bruenig personal opinions don't belong here ;)
[02:22] <bruenig> fact
[02:22] <erisco> something is fishy
[02:22] <nikrud> erisco could have got java another way
[02:22] <encryptz> prohna: if you want
[02:23] <brambo_> nikrud: I have done it through Synaptic, not sure who you are talking to there sorry
[02:23] <prohna> encryptz: is it stable?
[02:23] <erisco> something is terribly, terribly broken with my java
[02:23] <encryptz> prohna: some would say yes. others would disagree
[02:23] <nathan42100> nikrud: how do I force it
[02:23] <nathan42100> it says unclean shutdown
[02:23] <erisco> my computer's specs are fine... but everything java preforms like crap
[02:23] <nikrud> nathan42100 ah!!!.  Best way is to boot it into windows, let windows fix it
[02:23] <nathan42100> nikrud: usually it gives me an error. I'm guessing that why
[02:23] <nathan42100> how do I force it though?
[02:23] <erisco> my memory instantly maxes out, and the application gets slower and slower
[02:24] <erisco> whenever I run an app gui
[02:24] <nathan42100> nikrud: -F?
[02:24] <erisco> java gui*
[02:24] <linxeh> erisco: what applications, how much memory, what jvm, etc
[02:24] <erisco> linxeh, eclipse, open office presentation, 1GB of memory
[02:25] <saikor> brambo_/winterwolf:  tried ' sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin'
[02:25] <saikor> ?
[02:25] <erisco> linxeh, how do I check my jvm, I believe I have more than one installed...
[02:25] <nathan42100> nikrud: =o....I just tried to force it and it disappeared...
[02:25] <nikrud> nathan42100 I'm not sure, I've never used it. NTFS is windows secret code, and all the stuff in linux is enlightened guesswork. I let windows fix windows stuff.
[02:25] <winterwolf> saikor: I tryed through Synaptic and terminal like you just typed,
[02:25] <saikor> and it failed?
[02:26] <nathan42100> nikrud: for future reference it is -o force. Im gunna restart again, and HOPE it comes back.
[02:26] <erisco> and when I exit a java app that is running really, really slowly, you can instantly hear my hard drive going like mad
[02:26] <nikrud> nathan42100 neener neener (with ears plugged and eyes covered ;)
[02:26] <trey> saikor: well restricted drivers opened... now what?
[02:26] <erisco> perhaps it is because it is discarding the memory in the swap space
[02:26] <erisco> as it does start overflowing...
[02:26] <linxeh> erisco: java -version ?  other than that you need to look at your operating system software management tools (control panel, synaptic, system preferences/applications, etc)
[02:26] <nathan42100> nikrud: that doesn't help your nose....
[02:26] <winterwolf> I keep getting disconnected..
[02:26] <nathan42100> brb
[02:27] <linxeh> erisco: your machine has no way near enough ram. Open office is a hog, eclipse is a hog
[02:27] <erisco> linxeh, Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 1.6.0_03-b05, mixed mode)
[02:27] <TantorCFSJA> Quick question on Ubuntu Beta... on screen refresh rate reporting..
[02:27] <linxeh> erisco: what operating system is it ?
[02:27] <saikor> trey:  what do you see in there?
[02:27] <Flannel> TantorCFSJA: #ubuntu+1 for Hardy support, thanks
[02:27] <soto> What's the environment variable for library paths?
[02:27] <erisco> linxeh, this would be #ubuntu...
[02:27] <TantorCFSJA> K ty
[02:27] <trey> saikor: well... i see a light... hold on lol
[02:28] <linxeh> erisco: yes, but that doesnt mean you are using it, or which release, window manager etc (but ok, I thought this was ##java for a minute)
[02:28] <erisco> linxeh, Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_03-b05)
[02:28] <nikrud> erisco I agree on the memory thing, I ended up getting 2gb to run eclipse and open office at the same time
[02:28] <linxeh> erisco: why are you running 64bit with only 1GB ram?
[02:28] <winterwolf> saikor: it ran into a problem while installing  sun-java6-doc
[02:28] <fany> hay.......
[02:28] <erisco> linxeh, I didn't realize 64 bit meant you had to have more ram...
[02:28] <linxeh> you should only be considering 64bit really if you have >2GB RAM - otherwise its just causing problems for yourself
[02:29] <erisco> linxeh, why?
[02:29] <valros> on the gnome upper bar, do the bars accurately depict wireless conenction?
[02:29] <saikor> winterwolf: oh? do you need the docs?
[02:29] <erisco> linxeh, I have never heard of this kind of relation before
[02:29] <linxeh> erisco: it doesnt - its just there is no real advantage till you get to 2+GB, and below that you have pain because loads of software still isnt 64bit, primarily commercial stuff. plus until recently suns 64bit linux jvm was incomplete (maybe it still is, java plugin etc)
[02:29] <winterwolf> saikor: I dont think so but how do I skip that part?
[02:30] <erisco> linxeh, I have a 32bit browser, that is fine. other than that all the software runs fine
[02:30] <TizzleV> Can anyone help me repair an XFS superblock?
[02:30] <saikor> winterwolf: is it just the sun-java6-plugin you are installing?
[02:30] <linxeh> erisco: ok :)
[02:30] <nathan42100> nikrud:works now, no windows
[02:30] <saikor> winterwolf: also, what error are you getting installing the docs?
[02:30] <nathan42100> :-p
[02:30] <linxeh> erisco: regardless, you need more ram :)
[02:30] <erisco> linxeh, I do a lot of crap on this computer, and I wasn't really interested in wasting 3/4 of my processor power
[02:30] <linxeh> erisco: you could try running fluxbox / xfce4 to reduce your ram usage though
[02:30] <erisco> linxeh, I don't think I should. if java really takes that much ram it is utterly useless
[02:31] <linxeh> erisco: you wont waste any processing power really
[02:31] <trey> saikor: do you mind me sending you a screenshot?
[02:31] <saikor> trey: go for it.
[02:31] <winterwolf> saikor: Its hard to explain, can I message you via another program and send you a screenshot?
[02:31] <sk8ball> how can i get X back to the original configuration that ubuntu detected on its own?
[02:32] <linxeh> erisco: ok, fair enough, but Gnome etc is eating loads of that ram up already. openoffice just hogs memory big time, and so does eclipse. it's not java so much, just the way those apps are written (or in the case of eclipse, just how rich it is)
[02:32] <saikor> errr you could delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf (MAKE A BACKUP)
[02:32] <trey> saikor: did you get it?
[02:32] <winterwolf> saikor: brb
[02:32] <saikor> trey: no
[02:32] <erisco> linxeh, well, then I need more ram
[02:33] <erisco> linxeh, but that isn't going to happen for a long time :P
[02:33] <valros> Hey guys, heres a good question, on xp, firefox has google as its default engine if it cant find what you typed in the address bar, here on ubuntu, it goes straight to yahoo, can this be fixed
[02:33] <IndyGunFreak> erisco: what kind of Ram does it take?
[02:33] <nikrud> nathan42100 you lucky guy, you :)
[02:33] <nathan42100> :-D
[02:33] <nathan42100> c ya
[02:33] <erisco> IndyGunFreak, DDR2, but I am not buying ram chips
[02:33] <nathan42100> usually forcing it work
[02:33] <nathan42100> s
[02:33] <IndyGunFreak> ok
[02:34] <nathan42100> I hope 8.04 will fix a lot of this stuff
[02:34] <linxeh> erisco: you might find that 32bit ubuntu is more conservative on memory too
[02:34] <trey> saikor: if you didnt get it now pm me you im (if you have one)
[02:34] <IndyGunFreak> erisco: ohw much ram do you have?
[02:34] <erisco> IndyGunFreak, 1GB
[02:34] <pat5star> valros: i haven't looked, but can't you change that under edit -> preferences?
[02:34] <Aval0n> guys I upgraded to hardy and ever since when I log in it's DRAGS if I click to move a window it freezes
[02:34] <kousotu> Anyone know how to make an ipod work on Ubuntu?
[02:34] <IndyGunFreak> i would think thats plenty, even for OO.o to make slides
[02:34] <linxeh> given the price of ram these days it seems barmy to have less than 2GB :o
[02:34] <Aval0n> I've tried 2 differet nvidia drivers
[02:34] <linxeh> IndyGunFreak: he's running eclipse alongside it
[02:35] <Aval0n> anyone have any suggestions?
[02:35] <bazhang> Aval0n: #ubuntu+1 please
[02:35] <nikrud> Aval0n yes, ask in #ubuntu+1
[02:35] <erisco> IndyGunFreak, I would think it is plenty too. it starts off fine, but the more I run the slide show, the more it bogs down
[02:35] <valros> ok, ill look in it, i wondered why the preferences moved under the edit menu in linux where as in windows its under tools, is it like a linux standard?
[02:35] <sk8ball> saikor, how do i do it... i dont have correct permissions
[02:35] <erisco> it spells memory leak to me.
[02:35] <kousotu> Aval0n: what's the problem you're having
[02:35] <Aval0n> ok ty
[02:35] <kousotu> ?
[02:35] <saikor> trey: did my pm get through?
[02:35] <erisco> I think I have a bad jvm
[02:35] <sanguisdex> so had installed send mail on to my machine for some software testing and when I removed it I stopped being able to get my IMAP mail.  (it just asked and asks for the password, that remains unchanged) Do you think that the package manager removed some necessary library package?
[02:35] <trey> avalon go to #ubuntu+1 for that
[02:35] <saikor> put sudo in front of your command.
[02:35] <trey> saikor: no
[02:35] <saikor> sk8ball: ^
[02:36] <psycholvlan> what is the package that you have to install to get advanced desktop appearance?
[02:36] <bazhang> kousotu: the latest iPod need libgpod 0.6.0; you can compile for gutsy or just wait for the next release when it will be included (next release in about 3 weeks)
[02:36] <psycholvlan> effects*
[02:36] <bazhang> psycholvlan: ccsm
[02:36] <linxeh> has anyone installed Ubuntu on a mac pro ?
[02:36] <kousotu> bazhang: it's going to be preinstalled with Hardy even with an update from Gutsy?
[02:36] <saikor> anyone know why I can't seem to PM?
[02:36] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro linxeh
[02:37] <alteregoa> example content?
[02:37] <epitron> what's the name of that sun dtrace clone that redhat made? i'm having a strange problem with fontconfig not being able to write cache files
[02:37] <kousotu> saikor: you're not registered?
[02:37] <linxeh> bazhang: mac pro...
[02:37] <alteregoa> !pack example-content
[02:37] <epitron> strace isn't being very helpful
[02:37] <bazhang> kousotu: the next release will have it
[02:37] <psycholvlan> bazhang what's the exact name
[02:37] <kousotu> bazhang: it's an OLD shuffle
[02:37] <bazhang> linxeh: oops
[02:37] <linxeh> bazhang: :)
[02:37] <sanguisdex> saikor: have you registerd your user name/
[02:37] <saikor> kousotu: I registered the name.
[02:37] <sanguisdex> \?
[02:37] <sanguisdex> ?
[02:37] <saikor> yeah
[02:37] <bazhang> !ccsm | psycholvlan
[02:37] <kousotu> saikor: no idea then
[02:37] <kousotu> lol
[02:37] <saikor> is there a command I need to send to 'login'[?
[02:37] <bazhang> the bot is down?
[02:38] <bazhang> http://macprolinux.blogspot.com/2007/10/installing-ubuntu-710-gutsy-on-mac-pro.html linxeh
[02:38] <psycholvlan> i know it has manager in it
[02:38] <Lifeisfunny> Does anyone know how to make the desktop icons visible in the menu 'Places/Desktop' while removing them from the actual desktop?
[02:39] <kelvin911> anyone heard of Yodm3D ??
[02:39] <psycholvlan> i've had linux uninstalled for a couple weeks... now i got a laptop
[02:39] <bazhang> compizconfig-settings-manager psycholvlan
[02:39] <psycholvlan> ty
[02:39] <sk8ball> saikor, didnt work
[02:39] <bazhang> np
[02:39] <kelvin911> is it windows software trying to copy compiz-fusion ?
[02:39] <trey> saikor: did you get MY pm?
[02:39] <saikor> trey:sadly not
[02:39] <sk8ball> its going back to something even more limited =/
[02:39] <epitron> ubuntu's supposed to work properly with reiserfs, right?
[02:39] <trey> saikor :..(
[02:40] <bazhang> ext3 would be better imo epitron
[02:40] <Azur3> hello, I'm running 7.10 and using a direct cable connection to my router. I can't get my wireless adapter to work when I do lspci it says Atheros AR5006EG
[02:40] <epitron> bazhang: why do you say that? :)
[02:40] <sk8ball> i just want to return to the config ubuntu setup created
[02:40]  * trey flings his machine out the window!
[02:40] <saikor> sk8ball: ok try going to screen and graphics in system -> admin
[02:40] <sanguisdex> so I had installed send mail on to my machine for some software testing and when I removed it I stopped being able to get my IMAP mail.  (it just asked and asks for the password, that remains unchanged) Do you think that the package manager removed some necessary library package?
[02:40] <saikor> trey/winterwolf: email shadow330@hotmail.com
[02:41] <sk8ball> saikor, been there thats where i fucked it up now im trying to put it back to the settings that were there when i started and its just not working
[02:41] <trey> saikor: this is your im?
[02:41] <bazhang> epitron: you can use reiserfs really up to you; the future of reiserfs is uncertain at this point
[02:41] <saikor> sk8ball: ohhh
[02:41] <sk8ball> i am selecting what was there before but its giving me diff res/refresh rates
[02:41] <laughzilla> hi :) does anyone know how to solve the Grub Loader Error 17 (doesn't recognize or see the required partition of the os) ? i have some bits of data i wanna copy from that drive .... can i copy my data if i mount my dysfunctional ubuntu hdd as a slave on another box, ie: a slack 10 box ?
[02:41] <saikor> trey: no
[02:41] <epitron> bazhang: yeah, i know. :) i'll switch when ZFS comes out ;)
[02:41] <bazhang> language sk8ball
[02:41] <trey> saikor: email?
[02:41] <sk8ball> baz, lociento
[02:42] <LjL> lo siento
[02:42] <bazhang> no cursing sk8ball
[02:42] <valros> gotta love ubuntus load/unload times :)
[02:42] <saikor> sk8ball: look in the /etc/X11 folder, there should be a backup in there
[02:42] <epitron> bazhang: reiser really performs better with tons of tiny files i find... and it's quite stable
[02:42] <saikor>  trey: yeah, then I'll give you my im
[02:42] <sk8ball> saikor, thats what i thought xorg.conf.1
[02:42] <trey> saikor: kk
[02:42] <sk8ball> but that doesnt seem to be it
[02:42] <epitron> bazhang: (the filesystem, not the author)
[02:43] <Colmena> how I can to install Linux_x86_Display_GeForce_9600_GT.run ?
[02:43] <saikor> sk8ball: cp the backup to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:43] <trey> saikor: to thunderbird and beond!!!!!!
[02:43] <sk8ball> saikor, i cp'd the xorg.conf.1 to it, i figured this was it as there was like 3 of em, and i thought the other ones were my other attempts at fixing it
[02:44] <LadyNikon> hey.. I am trying to change the colors for my vim.  Anyone know where they are stored? /usr/share/vim/vim71/colors doesnt have the color that is default in vim
[02:44] <linxeh> bazhang: thanks - I've been searching for a while but haven't hit that one
[02:44] <saikor> sk8ball: log out then back in? did that work?
[02:44] <Lifeisfunny> I've tried to be as nice and peaches but from the impression of things I must have wronged someone here.
[02:45] <trey> saikor: i emailed you...
[02:45] <saikor> trey: replied
[02:45] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3518911&postcount=9 laughzilla
[02:45] <trey> saikor, kk
[02:47] <laughzilla> thx bazhang :)
[02:47] <test_> so how many people have actually been capable of setting up a fully functioning SLI system so far?
[02:47] <trey> saikor got it!
[02:47] <Azur3> bazhang: hey, this is Azure Tide from yesterday, I'm running 7.10 smoothly on my laptop now, I usedd the terminal to run that lspci thing you said yesterday
[02:47]  * trey downloads im client...
[02:47] <Azur3> bazhang: and it says Atheros AR5006EG
[02:48] <bazhang> http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=607385 test_
[02:48]  * trey just relized that pigin is an im client..... :\
[02:48] <test_> thanks bazhang
[02:48] <bazhang> Azur3: you wired? and want to get wireless going?
[02:49] <Azur3> bazhang: yes sir
[02:49] <Silvanov> is there any programs similar to webmin that are reccomended for ubuntu server for 8.04
[02:49] <Groty> Hello, I have a question about Chat Clients/SMS clients
[02:49] <bazhang> Azur3: open a terminal and see if ifconfig shows more than eth0 and lo (ie ath0 or the like)
[02:50] <bazhang> ask away Groty; if someone knows they will answer
[02:50] <Groty> Thank bazhang
[02:50] <bazhang> Silvanov: ebox
[02:50] <bazhang> ubotu?
[02:51] <bazhang> !test
[02:51] <Azur3> bazhang: it only has those two, but there are alot of lines for them
[02:51] <Silvanov> i just checked out ebox, but it doesnt do apache config/admin
[02:51] <Groty> So, I've used Yahoo IM for years for work.  I've become addicted to the SMS client in the newer versions, so much better than sending a text through my phone.  I've noticed Pidgin doesn't support the feature and the latest versions of YIM don't work in Wine.  Is there another option?
[02:51] <trey> saikor: it says your offline...
[02:52] <K_Nine> Does anyone know of a graphical converter to change .avi files to .amv files for my mp4 player?
[02:52] <saikor> trey: shd have authorized now.
[02:52] <Azur3> Groty: I google searched sms client and linux and it gave me http://smsclient.org
[02:53] <Silvanov> Groty: theres a *nix version of yahoo IM http://messenger.yahoo.com/unix.php not sure if it supports the features you want though
[02:53] <linxeh> bazhang: is there an ebox package for ubuntu?
[02:53] <AdrianStrays> How can I add the computer/trash/home folder to the desktop?
[02:53] <trey> saikor: kk
[02:53] <Silvanov> linxeh, you can apt-get install it
[02:53] <linxeh> Silvanov: hmm, I guess not on some versions of ubuntu then :o
[02:54] <RickX> anyone know how I can get a main menu or application menu when I right click on the desktop?
[02:54] <Groty> Silvanov - Thx, that requires a provider - Yahoo has it's own
[02:54] <adrock358> Ok.  I had a dual install (win/ubunt).  I was having problems getting on the net and decided it would be better to just do a fresh install.  So, I erased the partition that ubuntu was installed on (on my WD 320 gb HD).  At the same time, I decided to increase my Windows Partition size, so I did that using Gparted.  I repartitioned the unallocated space, that partly housed my past Ubuntu installation.  So, I erased the Ubuntu partition from my singular HD,
[02:55] <Pelo> RickX,  I know it can be done in xcfe but I don'T know if you can do it in gnome
[02:55] <bazhang> http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/web/ebox linxeh
[02:55] <isforinsects> RickX: you can do gnome+enlightenment
[02:55] <RickX> Pelo, thanks. It can easily be done in almost any window manager, or environment.
[02:55] <pat5star> adrock358: you sure there isn't a shorter way to ask your question? :)
[02:56] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=691992 Groty you  might look here too
[02:56] <RickX> isforinsects, how different than metacity is that?
[02:56] <akreao> Can someone tell me how to use Emerald?
[02:56] <adrock358> pat5star.  Yes.  I am sure.
[02:56] <Pelo> akreao, ask in #compiz
[02:56] <akreao> Alright.
[02:56] <pat5star> adrock358: well, i think the end got cut off
[02:56] <bazhang> adrock358: got a question in there?
[02:56] <linxeh> bazhang: I'm on feisty still
[02:56] <isforinsects> RickX: not sure
[02:57] <RickX> ... or, can I run WindowMaker as the window manger in Gnome?
[02:57]  * Pelo read widowMaker
[02:57] <linxeh> bazhang: I guess I should get around to reiinstalling the box
[02:57] <adrock358> bazhang, pat5star.  You really don't get what I am asking?  Damn...I must be off my game..
[02:57] <isforinsects> RickX: windowmaker with gnome services, yes I think
[02:58] <Groty> bazhang - thanks I'll dig on the
[02:58] <Groty> err dig on that
[02:58] <pat5star> adrock358: no, not even close, feel like someone ripped out the last half of a novel i was reading
[02:59] <RickX> isforinsects, is there a way I can get xdg-menu to build a main menu in window maker?
[02:59] <linxeh> !upgrade
[02:59] <linxeh> heh
[02:59] <Silvanov> lol @ pat5star
[02:59] <pat5star> adrock358: I'm not being smart either, just was following your post, but don't get the question you were getting too
[02:59] <raiden> hi people
[02:59] <Pelo> RickX, this channel usualy deals with installation issue, basic troubleshooting and noob introductions
[02:59] <bazhang> linxeh: then no ebox in feisty from a search of packages.ubuntu.com that I can see
[02:59] <raiden> hola
[03:00] <linxeh> bazhang: yeah :( I'll upgrade the distro I guess
[03:00] <flyback> raiden
[03:00] <Pelo> !hi | raiden
[03:00] <raiden> sup ?
[03:00] <flyback> #carnage raiden?
[03:00] <isforinsects> I was trying to play with aircrack lastnight.  I think I killed my rt2500 wireless module. is there a trivial way to revert back to stock networking settings/module?
[03:00] <Azur3> bazhang: so i only have Eth0 and Lo in the ifconfig
[03:00] <Groty> One other thing, just upgraded to 8.04 on my lappy, noticed one thing - when on battery power, unchecking "Reduce backlight brightness" in Power Management Prefs isn't working.  It still dims and now I know how my grandparents feel when they try to read at night
[03:00] <flyback> back on efnet
[03:00] <bazhang> adrock358: your post was incomplete; cut off or something
[03:01] <raiden> i need feedback for my script
[03:01] <raiden> can any one give me feedback ?
[03:01] <linxeh> is there an easy way to upgrade to a new release ?
[03:01] <Pelo> Groty, for hardy info you need to go to #ubuntu+1
[03:01] <bazhang> linxeh: via the net sure
[03:01] <flyback> raiden are you the dude from efnet?
[03:01] <raiden> add/remove linuxeh
[03:01] <isforinsects> update-manager --dist-upgrade
[03:01] <Groty> gotch, thanks Pelo
[03:01] <raiden> no
[03:01] <flyback> ok sorry to bug you :P
[03:01] <raiden> am from linuxAC.org
[03:01] <Pelo> !upgrade | linxeh
[03:01] <linxeh> I'm remote from the machine atm, so don't really want to run X if I can help it
[03:02] <bazhang> the bot is sleeping
[03:02] <linxeh> Pelo: yeah, ubuto is AWOL :)
[03:02] <Pelo> bot dead again ?
[03:02] <isforinsects> linxeh: no wait...
[03:02] <raiden> how i can change my name ?
[03:02] <raiden> here
[03:02] <raiden> ?
[03:02] <linxeh> should I just edit the apt sources file ?
[03:02] <Pelo> raiden,  /nick newnick
[03:02] <raiden> ok thx
[03:02] <bazhang> raiden: /nick newnick
[03:02] <Pelo> linxeh, no
[03:02] <raiden> test
[03:02] <linxeh> ok :)
[03:02] <test_> yes?
[03:02] <isforinsects> linxeh: update-manager --??? something about new version or beta...
[03:03] <test_> =-)
[03:03] <Pelo> linxeh, check the forum for dist upgrade should be in there somewhere
[03:03] <linxeh> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades
[03:03] <Scunizi> Does anyone have a link to a list of external compatable modems?
[03:03] <Pelo> linxeh, there you go
[03:03] <linxeh> its not trivial to find that page though
[03:03] <Djr4iden> ok
[03:03] <bazhang> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/upgrade-ubuntu-from-feisty-to-gutsy/ linxeh
[03:03] <Pelo> Scunizi, might be easier to search the forum for spefic models and see if anyone had problems
[03:04] <Flannel> !upgrade | linxeh
[03:04] <Scunizi> pelo k.
[03:04] <Djr4iden> http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/4542/screenshot1vm0.png
[03:04] <RickX> Thanks
[03:04] <Pelo> Scunizi, also this  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[03:04] <Djr4iden> http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/7117/screenshot2vj3.png
[03:04] <linxeh> bazhang: thanks
[03:04] <Flannel> linxeh, bazhang: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades
[03:04] <Pelo> Djr4iden, and those are for ?
[03:04] <Scunizi> Pelo.. thanks I forgot about that
[03:04] <bazhang> Flannel: I'm on Hardy ;]
[03:05] <Djr4iden> did any one saw that pic ?
[03:05] <Flannel> bazhang: Right, but give out wiki links when there is one
[03:05] <aas11> can someone tell me what's the best way to back up a bazaar repository?
[03:05] <Scunizi> Pelo, not overly updated.. only one listed :(.. I'll have to edit if I can get this one to work
[03:05] <bazhang> Flannel: you can if you wish to
[03:05] <Pelo> Djr4iden, what are those pics for ?
[03:05] <Djr4iden> my script
[03:05] <Pelo> Scunizi, you might also want to inqure in #hardware
[03:05] <akreao> How many people have bothered trying the Heron beta?
[03:06] <valros> man, just completely followed the hda intel alsa tutorials, no change
[03:06] <Djr4iden> http://www.flyupload.com/?fid=4774140
[03:06]  * linxeh wonders how practical remotely upgrading to gutsy is :D
[03:06] <Flannel> akreao: #ubuntu+1 for hardy questions
[03:06] <isforinsects> akreao: I
[03:06] <Djr4iden> i need feed back for it
[03:06] <Pelo> akreao, this is the "current" release channel you want #ubuntu+1 for ppl on the bleeding edge
[03:06] <Djr4iden> so
[03:06] <Djr4iden> wassss upppp
[03:06] <akreao> Okay then.
[03:06] <Pelo> linxeh, I like to dl the dvd and upgrade from that ,  upgrading online can take a long time
[03:07] <Pelo> Djr4iden, look for a channel for the scripting language you use
[03:07] <Pelo> linxeh, you can also do it from the alternate install cd , but not from the live cd
[03:07] <linxeh> Pelo: its a fairly fast connection the other end, and the machine is a 30 min drive away
[03:07] <Pelo> linxeh, nvm I thought y ou meant someting else
[03:07] <isforinsects> is there a way to reset my network settings back to stock?
[03:07] <linxeh> :o
[03:07]  * prohna_ is upgrading to hardy
[03:08] <bazhang> prohna_: tell it to #ubuntu+1 please
[03:08] <fade2black> hello i just installed ubuntu on a friends pc but its not loading music cds when i put them in the disc drive do i need to do anything special
[03:08]  * Pelo envies that prohna_ will be using gnome 2.22 
[03:08] <bazhang> fade2black: loading the cds? is this a hardware issue--please be specific
[03:08] <Pelo> fade2black, menu > system > prefs > removable media , you probabaly need to tell it what to do with an audio cd
[03:09] <Djr4iden> so
[03:09] <LjL> !test
[03:09] <Djr4iden> echo $?
[03:09] <Djr4iden> 23
[03:09]  * Pelo thinks ljl is a failiure
[03:10] <bazhang> Djr4iden: is that a bash script?
[03:10] <Djr4iden> xD
[03:10] <fade2black> volume management not supported, the hald service is required but not currently running.
[03:10] <Djr4iden> yeah
[03:10] <bazhang> join #bash Djr4iden
[03:10] <fade2black> enable the service and rerun this application
[03:10] <Djr4iden> :)
[03:11] <bazhang> fade2black: this is gutsy?
[03:11] <fade2black> 7.10 yes
[03:11]  * nikrud is suprised there's no footprint on Pelo yest
[03:11] <epitron> hahah.. oh lord... fontconfig was broken because the file time on the font dirs was in the future..
[03:11] <isforinsects> ok, how about this: I can associate wireless, but I cant dhcp and my dmesg spits out packet info of trying to get to the ip's of my dns servers
[03:11] <epitron> that's ridickerous
[03:12] <Pelo> nikrud,  yest ?
[03:12] <bazhang> yeast
[03:12] <nikrud> Pelo couldn't decide between yesterday and yet
[03:12] <Empire666> is there a terminal command to stop/start sound?
[03:12] <furenku> hello!! i am about to buy a soundcard, and was wondering whether someone could point me to a card that works well with ubuntu studio (for pro audio)
[03:13] <Pelo> furenku, maybe the ppl in #hardware can inform you
[03:13] <impulze> hi there, i'm remotely administrating an ubuntu box and i wonder what i'd have to invoke to create an initramfs or -rd so that i can use a logical lvm volume as my / mountpoint
[03:13] <Azur3> bazhang: its only Eth0 and Lo when I use ifconfig
[03:13] <Empire666>  is there a terminal command to stop/start sound?
[03:14] <fade2black> bazhang do you know how to fix it
[03:14] <Pelo> Empire666, ctrl + M should mute the sound I think
[03:14] <bazhang> Azur3: is there a sticker on the bottom of the laptop?
[03:15] <Empire666> in the command line?
[03:15] <Azur3> bazhang, yes there are a few of them, is there somethig I need to look for?
[03:15] <Pelo> Empire666, it's just a keyboard shortcut
[03:15] <bazhang> AR5BXB63 Azur3? that one?
[03:15] <Empire666> ssh..ing
[03:16] <fade2black> bazhang k3b can see the cd but the system does not
[03:16] <Pelo> Empire666, I can't help then
[03:16] <Empire666> =/
[03:16] <bazhang> fade2black: you want to play the music, rip it or what?
[03:16] <fade2black> i want to be able to play and rip it
[03:16] <fade2black> but when i insert nothing
[03:16] <Empire666> would killing the soud daemon and starting work?
[03:16] <fade2black> happenes and i can only see it in kb3
[03:17] <Pelo> Empire666, try it , let us know
[03:17] <bazhang> fade2black: if k3b can see it, why not try ripping it?
[03:17] <Azur3> bazhang: i don't see that sticker on the bottom
[03:17] <koshea> hello, anyone have any idea why i have no window decorations when i turn on desktop effects?
[03:17] <bazhang> Azur3: what about lspci -nn what does that show--168c:001c?
[03:17] <fade2black> sound juicer cd extractor but does not see dvd drive
[03:18] <Pelo> koshea, yes,  decorator is not enable,    check in the advance effects settings
[03:18] <koshea> Pelo, already checked, its on
[03:18] <Flyerfye> okay
[03:18] <fade2black> any better program then that for ripping cds?
[03:18] <koshea> Pelo, its set to decoration windows: any
[03:19] <Pelo> koshea, try asking in #compiz , this is a knonw problem , there is an easy solution, I jus don't know it
[03:19] <dassouki> has anyone tried the "cheese" app yet?
[03:19] <Pelo> dassouki, ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:19] <dassouki> has anyone tried the "cheese" app yet? if so does it crash right away?
[03:19] <Azur3> bazhang: yes
[03:19] <dassouki> oooh k oops
[03:19] <Pelo> dassouki, ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:19] <rust> Can anybody see anything wrong with this command if it's running from cron:
[03:19] <rust> DISPLAY=:0.0 /usr/bin/notify-send Notify "Notified"
[03:19] <bazhang> Azur3: then that is the 5007 not the 5006 just a second
[03:19] <wynd> can the ubuntu install resize partitions without wiping the contents?
[03:20] <dassouki> gone to ubuntu-1 thanks Pelo
[03:20] <niuq> why i don't need to defrag a disk with ubuntu?
[03:20] <Flyerfye> so normally when I go to join a network, I click on the symbol and select the network I want to join and then it does its little thing and logs me in, well theres this one network, I click on it to log into it and when I click on it the network icon disappears.  Any ideas how to get the network icon back or at least where the control panel for the icon is?
[03:20] <bazhang> wynd: on an install, yes
[03:20] <wynd> bazhang: as opposed to?
[03:20] <Pelo> rust, not sure you need the display:0.0 line, it's not a gui app
[03:20] <luckylin> fade2black: K3B is great for burning cd's
[03:20] <maarek_> oh, this is going to be fun.  I'm installing adobe AIR
[03:20] <koshea> Pelo, k thanks
[03:20] <maarek_> I also downloaded the SDK for Adobe AIR
[03:20] <fade2black> luckylin im trying to rip music cds
[03:20] <rust> Pelo, It is meant to pop up a notification message near the systray
[03:20] <Pelo> niuq,  ext3 file system works differently it does not need to be defraged
[03:21] <fade2black> ? restricted
[03:21] <Pelo> rust, nvm then , is it not working ?
[03:21] <niuq> Pelo: mmmm can you tell me why, or it's a out of topic question?
[03:21] <Pelo> rust, give us the whole line, including the time stuff
[03:21] <rust> Pelo, it works from a terminal but when I cron it or run it from 'at' nothing happens
[03:22] <rust> * * * * * DISPLAY=:0.0 /usr/bin/notify-send Notify "Notified"
[03:22] <rust> for testing ;)
[03:22] <LadyNikon> anyone use vim and colors and know the default folder for colors?
[03:22] <Pelo> rust, try export DISPLAY....
[03:22] <sk8ball> saikor: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg was the answer to my problems
[03:22] <Tu13es> how can I disable my wifi on my desktop? it keeps coming back if i ifconfig down it
[03:23] <Pelo> rust, hold on
[03:23] <sk8ball> just took all the defaults more or less
[03:23] <saikor> sk8ball: ah, glad you got it running.
[03:23] <sk8ball> saikor: thx for the help
[03:23] <Pelo> * * * * * export DISPLAY=:0.0 && /usr/bin/notify-send Notify "Notified"
[03:23] <LadyNikon> Tu13es: int he admin section there is network
[03:23] <Azur3> bazhang: why would it say "AR5006EG" but have 168c:001c?
[03:23] <Pelo> rust,  * * * * * export DISPLAY=:0.0 && /usr/bin/notify-send Notify "Notified"
[03:23] <saikor> sk8ball: yeah that makes sense. I always forget you can do that.
[03:23] <LadyNikon> Tu13es: you can disable it there
[03:23] <Flyerfye> anyone wanna answer my above question
[03:23] <rust> Pelo, thanks I'll give that a try
[03:23] <LadyNikon> Flyerfye: please be patient.. if no one can answer try the forums.
[03:23] <sk8ball> anyone have experience with P5VD2-VM SE under linux, specifically installing drivers for the onboard video ?
[03:24] <fade2black> whats the restricted format site
[03:24] <sk8ball> that is the Asus P5VD2-VM SE
[03:24] <LadyNikon> sk8ball: its better to just ask your question.
[03:24] <Scunizi> sk8ball, what kind of card is on the board
[03:25] <Tu13es> LadyNikon: hm, I'm in xfce
[03:25] <LadyNikon> Tu13es: oh sorry. I thought you were in ubuntu
[03:25] <StevenX> How do I configure Amarok to recognize my iPod? Music Player recognizes it, but Amarok does not.
[03:25] <Tu13es> well, xubuntu technically
[03:25] <LadyNikon> Tu13es: ask in the xubuntu channel for the location of the gui location
[03:26] <LadyNikon> of the network application
[03:26] <spiniker> i have problems with ubuntu hardy,everytime i shut down may laptop,the screen goes black
[03:26] <sk8ball_> Scunizi: VIA Chipset P4M900 integrated graphics card
[03:26] <sk8ball_> brb
[03:26] <Tu13es> I found a Network thing that lets me choose roaming or non roaming, doesn't appear to let me disable it though
[03:26] <LadyNikon> !hardy
[03:26] <barnaby> Hi all. I have a long winded question, forgive me please. Here goes: @ hd's in pc, orig. Vista. Gparted wiped em both installed Gutsy on sda1. Sda2 not seen by gutsy, puppy sees it. Do I add entry in fstab? Install on 2nd hd? please to advise, sorry if flood.
[03:26] <Scunizi> sk8ball, intel.. hang on
[03:26] <LadyNikon> bleh
[03:26] <Pelo> StevenX,  I think you need to setup your ipod in amarok as a music library or some such, tehre are totorials about it in theforum
[03:26] <spiniker> and it takes to long to shut down..
[03:27] <rust> Pelo, Nope, that didn't work either.
[03:27] <StevenX> Pelo, thanks.
[03:27] <fade2black> whats the music cd ripping program
[03:27] <Pelo> rust, you are putting some numbers in right ?
[03:28] <rust> Pelo, I've tried all stars and */1 for the minute and ive been using at to schedule it as well
[03:28] <barnaby> Man, that weren't as long winded as I thought it was gonna be.
[03:28] <Azur3> what irc client are you all using? just curious, I'm running chatzilla through firefox
[03:28] <rust> Pelo, I wanted to check it wasn't something I was doing wrong, I'm running Hardy so I guess I'll pop over to ubuntu+1
[03:29] <rust> make sure it's not a known bug
[03:29] <bazhang> Azur3: the madwifi drivers support that card; the reason for it being listed as 5006 in ubuntu may be a problem with ubuntu not searching for subsection ids (or so I've read)
[03:29] <rust> Pelo, ty for the help
[03:29] <Pelo> rust shouldn't make a differentce but be my guest, that was my only guess
[03:30] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/atheros-5007eg-with-madwifi-on-i386-platform.html here is more info azur3
[03:30] <barnaby> Anyone care to take a stab at my second hard drive being a no-show?
[03:30] <Azur3> bazhang: ok thank you
[03:30] <Pelo> barnaby, pastebin it
[03:30] <Scunizi> sk8ball, there's a package in synaptic called xserver-xorg-video-opench that comes from http://www.openchrome.org.. that might be it.
[03:30] <barnaby> it's not that long
[03:30] <barnaby> 2 hd's in the machine
[03:31] <barnaby> Wiped out Vista with gparted on both drives
[03:31] <Mezriss> greetings. I
[03:31] <bazhang> StevenX: this is the latest iPod?
[03:31] <Pelo> barnaby, I thought this was a fstab problem which is why I asked for a pastebin,  I missread the word stab for fstab
[03:31] <StevenX> bazhang, it is a 5.5g ipod.
[03:31] <Pelo> anyway i have to go , later folks
[03:31] <barnaby> installed gutsy, asked me which drive to put it on, I said sda1
[03:32] <barnaby> sda2 does not show up
[03:32] <bazhang> cya pelo
[03:32] <barnaby> i know it's theroot off a puppy disk, there it ise, I can b
[03:32] <Mezriss> I've installed libc6 2.7 from hardy to my gutsy install instead of 2.6 and now I get messages about unsatisfied dependencies. deb installer doesn't work due to this
[03:32] <bazhang> StevenX: not sure what that means; is this a newer iPod?
[03:33] <Mezriss> how can I fix it?
[03:33] <StevenX> bazhang, yes.
[03:33] <barnaby> i musta merged messages
[03:33] <bazhang> Mezriss: always a bad idea to add hardy stuff to gutsy; no telling what might have been damaged
[03:33] <barnaby> i can boot into puppy and there it is
[03:34] <Mezriss> ther's a lit of libraries that have broken dependencies
[03:34] <barnaby> but gutsy does na see it
[03:34] <bazhang> StevenX: that requires compiling libgpod 0.6.0 for gutsy or waiting three weeks for Hardy and getting it in the release
[03:34] <Mezriss> but what can I do now? how can I get the vercion I need back?
[03:34] <rust> barnaby, what device handle does puppy give it
[03:35] <bazhang> Mezriss: you are in trouble as far as I can see; doing things the way you did may require a backup and reinstall
[03:35] <StevenX> bazhang, I found the tutorial on ubuntuforums.org. Thank you. One last question. Will Amarok let me delete and make queues?
[03:35] <barnaby> man i misremember, but it does see it, hda1? sda1?
[03:35] <bazhang> StevenX: you mean playlists? is that queues? fairly sure the answer is yes
[03:35] <barnaby> i never formatted it, just wiped it with gparted. Maybe that's the prob?
[03:36] <Mezriss> is it possible to get libc6 2.6 sourcw and compile it to replace 2.7?
[03:36] <StevenX> bazhang, yes, playlists. thank you.
[03:36] <Azur3> bazhang: it says to inter the 7.10 gusty gibbon disk release i386
[03:36] <Azur3> bazhang: is that my livecd?
[03:36] <bazhang> Azur3: yes
[03:36] <icanhasadmin> barnaby: 100% of the time, good old fdisk/mkfs is the best way to handle it.
[03:37] <barnaby> mkfs? you interest me strangely...speak on
[03:37] <NW2190> hey, does anyone know how to indent multiple lines in vim? I tried = in Visual mode but it just prints '4 lines indented' without indenting...
[03:38] <jrib> NW2190: use > no?  I use V, highlight whan I want, then hit >
[03:38] <bazhang> Mezriss: you can certainly try; best to backup and plan for the worst though
[03:38] <NW2190> jrib: That did it. Thanks a lot.
[03:38] <Henry> how to build the local area network in linux
[03:39] <bazhang> Henry: please give much more info on what you wish to do
[03:39] <dassouki> Henry, that's a tough question to answer, what exactly do you want to do?
[03:39] <icanhasadmin> barnaby: lol, maybe a google search will do you good :) fdisk allows you to partition CLI, mkfs allows you to set the file system
[03:39] <Mezriss> oh.... it IS possible to force synaptic to install older version
[03:39] <jrib> NW2190: if you do 'vnoremap > >gv' in your .vimrc, it will work nicer (stays highlighted).  Also, #vim is more likely to help with these kind of things
[03:39] <Mezriss> I'm saved
[03:40] <Henry> just use the network to connect to my desktop
[03:40] <barnaby> icanhasadmin: let me throw another at you: I saved my homedir to a ext hd, reinstalled gutsy, chmodded the root dir  to import saved homedir, now when I go to restore perm bits on home it disappears
[03:40] <bazhang> Henry: if you give cryptic info we will give cryptic answers
[03:40] <barnaby> all question-marky
[03:41] <icanhasadmin> barnaby: please describe "restore perm bits".. you mean just running files that were in your old home directory?
[03:42] <barnaby> i replaced the home directory that came with my fresh install with the home directory from my last install
[03:42] <barnaby> and changed the permission bits on root to do so; to import it from my external hd
[03:43] <tarelerulz> Do you have to when You compile stuff do you to do  sudo ./configure  , sudo make , sudo make install ?
[03:43] <icanhasadmin> barnaby: so i don't understand the problems?
[03:43] <barnaby> now when i try to chmod the bits on my home dir it disappears
[03:43] <barnaby> Its 777 now, and whines about it when i restart x
[03:44] <Henry> to share the data or file with my desktop
[03:44] <barnaby> i try to set it to 644 and it appears as all question marks in terminal
[03:44] <icanhasadmin> tarelerulz: yes, but only after you sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:45] <icanhasadmin> barnaby: describe the error message when you restart x?
[03:45] <icanhasadmin> barnaby: i mean did you just chmod +x ?
[03:45] <barnaby> here's waht i do: cmod 644 home
[03:46] <barnaby> waht?
[03:46] <barnaby> should I try chmod +x?
[03:46]  * ectospasm is away: gone sleepin'
[03:47] <bazhang> !away > ectospasm
[03:48] <isforinsects>  Is it possible I am piping network req's stout instead of my net connection?
[03:48] <barnaby> icanhas: I can get that message in a mo if you want me to
[03:49] <icanhasadmin> barnaby: honestly i'd try +x, it's a little odd of a thing... it's worked for me when it shouldn't tho
[03:49] <Azur3> bazhang: thank you, I'm wireless again ^^with my hour or so of using linux, i'm already head over heals for it :D
[03:49] <MidgetSpy> hey all, on a default install of 7.10 my onboard sound worked perfectly with no tinkering. I just upgraded my kernel to 2.6.24.3 and after rebooting I'm now getting also errors "No such device". I assume this means that some of the default options on the new kernel are different and I didn't load the module for my sound card, correct? How can I find out what it was and load it?
[03:50] <bazhang> Azur3: wow that was fast; you did all that yourself? congrats!
[03:50] <barnaby> when I change permissions back and do ls -la home doesn't display as dwrxrwxrwx... it looks like this ?........???
[03:51] <Azur3> bazhang: thanks, I'll prolly hang around this channel to see what else I can learn about linux, do you have any sites I should read about the basics?
[03:51] <Henry> how to use the gcc the -o2
[03:51] <jsestri2> anyone know of a music player that can learn from songs you skip / listen to similar to something like pandora?
[03:51] <bazhang> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy and http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/ Azur3
[03:52] <icanhasadmin> Azur3: running into problems is the best way to learn :D
[03:52] <tarelerulz> Have any of you try  gtalk's voice chat at all ? I am looking for something and I am not have much luck compiling kopete
[03:52] <pedrosanta> Hi all
[03:53] <tritium> tarelerulz: why are you compiling it, rather than using the ubuntu package?
[03:53] <pedrosanta> Anyone ever tried Plan 9 or Inferno?
[03:53] <bazhang> MidgetSpy: any reason for that kernel upgrade?
[03:53] <icanhasadmin> tritium: obviously compiling is more fun.
[03:53] <isforinsects> What does it mean when my dmesg is spitting out req's from me to my dns ip?
[03:53] <tritium> icanhasadmin: no, there is nothing obvious about that
[03:53] <MidgetSpy> bazhang: well I needed to change an option and recompile and it seemed easier and more logical to compile the newest stable instead of recompiling my old one
[03:53] <tarelerulz> tritium , from what I read that is the only way to get gtalk's voice chat .
[03:53] <ebovine> I have a Broadcom 43xx chipset wireless card and I'm running 7.10.  Every now and then I get gaps in the transmission.  Anyone else having this issue?
[03:53] <icanhasadmin> tritium: sorry... i'll keep the cynisim to a minimum...
[03:54] <dassouki> icanhasadmin, more fun as in checking ur email with pine fun?
[03:54] <tritium> tarelerulz: fair enough :)
[03:54] <MidgetSpy> I followed the this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158
[03:54] <barnaby> icanhasadmin: thanks for trying to help. I'll figure it out, even if I have to RTFM. (damnit)
[03:54] <Empire666>  looks like running "nircmd.exe mutesysvolume 1" in wine will mute the sound and "nircmd.exe mutesysvolume 0" to unmute it but there might be a wat to mute it in "gnome-sound-manager --help" or "gnome-sound-volume --help-all"
[03:54] <Empire666> not sure though
[03:55] <tarelerulz> I have a friend use gtalks voice chat and I wanted to talk to him
[03:55] <Shi> hello how do I login remotely to my ubuntu computer if im using ssh?
[03:55] <icanhasadmin> barnaby: well that issue you're having is really very odd. i'm thinking it's probabaly something very simple.
[03:55] <ebovine> Shi: install openssh server
[03:55] <Shi> on Ubuntu?
[03:55] <ebovine> Yes
[03:55] <Shi> k where do I find it?
[03:55] <ebovine> If that's the box you're trying to connect to
[03:56] <Starnestommy> Shi: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[03:56] <barnaby> yeah, my issues usually are. It will occur to me after I spend some time being stupid. I know the light will come on. Night all.
[03:56] <pedrosanta> Shi: System > Administration > Synaptic
[03:56] <pedrosanta> Shi: look for openssh server there
[03:56] <Shi> wow
[03:57] <Shi> i cant believe its that easy
[03:57] <pedrosanta> (or by apt-get... :) )
[03:57] <ebovine> I can make it harder if you'd like.
[03:57] <bazhang> haha
[03:57] <pedrosanta> :)
[03:57] <Shi> okay but to reiterate
[03:57] <Shi> I have a friend who wants to host something on my linux box, so I created a user account on the box
[03:57] <Shi> would my friend be able to log on remotely?
[03:58] <Shi> using ssh?
[03:58] <Shi> or do I need something else?
[03:58] <ebovine> Yes
[03:58] <Flannel> Shi: yes
[03:58] <pedrosanta> Shi: I do think so
[03:58] <Henry> when i type the "iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 8080"it show me "error"
[03:58] <Shi> k using ssh on my windows desktop what command would i use to log in?
[03:58] <Shi> im trying ssh username@ip
[03:58] <jrib> !putty | Shi
[03:58] <firefly2442> My system just did a hard freeze and everything locked up, what log file should I examine to see what the culprit is?
[03:58] <Shi> and im getting connection refused
[03:59] <bazhang> no bot ;[
[03:59] <Starnestommy> Shi: that should work, just make sure that port 22 is open to your server
[03:59] <flyback> OMG THE ANGRY PEOPLE PISSED AT CREATIVE IS UP TO 217 PAGES HAHAHAAH CREATIVE: YOU GO TO HELL AND YOU DIE
[03:59] <Flannel> Shi: You have ssh on your windows box?  I suggest PuTTy.  But, it should work fine (assuming thats the syntax).  Make sure you've port forwarded properly if you're behind a router
[03:59] <Shi> k how do I open it if its not?
[03:59] <Flannel> !caps | flyback
[03:59] <pedrosanta> Shi: check your windows firewall ... ?
[03:59] <jrib> flyback: please stay on topic
[03:59] <bazhang> lose the caps flyback
[04:00] <tarelerulz> I am trying to compile Kopete and I get this error and I have no idea what that means . http://rafb.net/p/dXvIss77.html
[04:00] <flyback> yeah sorry forgot I was still here
[04:00] <Shi> port 22 is open on mu desktop i think
[04:00] <Shi> but how do i open it on my ubuntu box?
[04:00] <joinmeindeath> hi
[04:00] <joinmeindeath> i'm trying to use xen with kvm but i don't have /dev/kvm with linux-image-2.6.24-12-xen kernel
[04:00] <Henry> what?
[04:00] <Starnestommy> Shi: is it behind a firewall?
[04:00] <joinmeindeath> do you have any clue?
[04:00] <Flannel> Shi: You don't need 22 open on the client box, just the server box.  It already is open on the server, you just need to forward if you're doing the router thing
[04:00] <Shi> i just recently install ubuntu on my pentium iii i have nothing addition afaik
[04:01] <Shi> hmm
[04:01] <Shi> k ill try that
[04:01] <Starnestommy> Shi: did you run sudo apt-get install openssh-server?
[04:01] <Shi> just go to my router page and open up port 22?
[04:01] <Shi> yup
[04:01] <Shi> >Starn yup
[04:01] <Starnestommy> Shi: if the ssh server is behind that router, open port 22 on it
[04:01] <smallfry> how do i get the sound working when i play movies?
[04:01] <Flannel> Shi: If you're both behind the same router, you won't need to forward to reach it (just go to the LAN ip of the server)
[04:02] <Shi> weell i also want my friend to be able to log in
[04:02] <Shi> so ild still have to open port 22 i think?
[04:02] <Henry> and i can't use the java in my system
[04:02] <Shi> if hes from elsewhere
[04:02] <Flannel> Shi: right, for that you'll need to forward port 22 in the router to point to your server
[04:03] <Shi> kk thx ill try that
[04:03] <bazhang> Henry: install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:03] <Henry> ok
[04:03] <Henry> let me try it
[04:04] <Shi> so open my router at my Linux box IP, at start/end ports 22 traffic type ANY and shedual ALWAYS ?
[04:04] <soulreaper> can anyone help me install beryl onto my ubuntu?
[04:04] <bazhang> soulreaper: it is compiz-fusion now
[04:04] <icanhasadmin> soulreaper: beryl is old and broken, but i'll help you install compiz
[04:05] <AngryElf> I've got my nvidia connected via dvi -> hdmi to my 1080P tv -- the virtual screen is bigger than the actual screen so the menus at the top and bottom are halfway off the screen -- can I fix that somehow?
[04:05] <anteaya> i installed a gem and it is in /var/lib/gems and i am unable to run it, my friend installed the same gem on his server and it is in /usr/bin.  Why doesn't ubuntu put my gems in /usr/bin as well?
[04:05] <Shi> so open my router at my Linux box IP, at start/end ports 22 traffic type ANY and shedual ALWAYS ?
[04:06] <soulreaper> dose compiz have the 3d cube?
[04:06] <jrib> soulreaper: yes
[04:06] <bazhang> soulreaper: if your card supports it yes
[04:06] <Shi> EEP
[04:07] <Shi> I dont think Emacs is installed
[04:07] <Shi> how do I get emacs?
[04:07] <icanhasadmin> bazhang: if it supports DRI, cube will work, if it doesn't, compiz won't even start
[04:07] <firefly2442> Shi: sudo apt-get install emacs  ?
[04:08] <Shi> yes!
[04:08] <Shi> me n3wb :)
[04:08] <firefly2442> Shi: the more the merrier ;)
[04:08] <Shi> hmm
[04:09] <Shi> I wonder if its a bad idea to give a college undergrad in computer science administrator privilages
[04:09] <icanhasadmin> Shi: yes
[04:09] <Tamale> can I make it so my mouse cursor can be 'totally hidden'?   normally the cursor remains on the screen by a margin of a pixel or two.. you can't move it so far to the edge that it disappears completely.  Can this 'margin' be reduced to 0 so that you CAN hide the cursor off in the bottom right corner?
[04:09] <Shi> there different levels of administrator privilages?
[04:09] <Flannel> Shi: The nice thing about using sudo over su is you can give him access to certain things, and not others (apt-get but not fdisk, or whatnot)
[04:09] <Shi> since he wants to setyp a gameserver thingy hes making
[04:10] <Flannel> Shi: You'll need to hand-edit your sudoers, but yes.
[04:10] <Shi> k how do i remove fdisk?
[04:10] <Henry> how to use the gcc just install it and run it ?
[04:10] <thundr2> Shi: As far as installing it, you should also be able to find it in the add/remove menu in Gnome as well, though if you're installing emacs, you should learn to love the command prompt.
[04:10] <larryxu> o
[04:10] <soulreaper> how do i know if my card suports DRI my graphics card is an agp 8x ati radeon x1300
[04:10] <thundr2> Shi: I'm not sure you want to.  It's a useful utility when you need it.
[04:11] <Henry> emacs?
[04:11] <icanhasadmin> soulreaper: yep that'll work
[04:11] <Empire666> Henry: sudo apt-get install build-essentials gcc
[04:11] <Shi> how do I remove fdisk from someone elses useraccount?
[04:11] <soulreaper> sweet
[04:11] <icanhasadmin> Shi: by default they don't have it
[04:11] <jamesish> Henry: it'd be sudo apt-get install build-essential, not essentials.
[04:12] <Henry> got it
[04:12] <jamesish> Shi: are you trying to prevent someone from seeing it on the command line, or what?
[04:12] <Empire666> ... oops
[04:12] <Shi> not sure I just wanna make sure my friend doesnt use fdisk as a mean joke :)
[04:12] <Ava-> root@htpc:/usr/bin# ls -al irw
[04:12] <Ava-> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4420 2008-03-24 11:24 irw
[04:12] <Ava-> root@htpc:/usr/bin# ./irw
[04:12] <Ava-> connect: No such file or directory
[04:12] <Ava-> root@htpc:/usr/bin#
[04:12] <FloodBot1> Ava-: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:13] <Ava-> heh
[04:13] <Ava-> wth
[04:13] <jamesish> Shi: you need sudo power to use it, so don't worry, unless he has sudo access. In which case, you're mostly screwed unless you remove it.
[04:13] <soulreaper> icanhasadmin can you run me threw in a diffrent room on how to install compiz and get the cube working?
[04:13] <thundr2> jamesish: I think he wants to give his friend sudo privs but just limited to certain things, right, Shi?
[04:13] <megi> hallo
[04:14] <icanhasadmin> soulreaper: join #compiz-fusion
[04:14] <Aristocles> hi megi
[04:14] <Flannel> Shi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers
[04:14] <jamesish> thundr2: I think that's what he's aiming for, but that's a dangerous path to tread. Give someone privileges on one process and if they're the kind of person who'll break you intentionally, then they can abuse it to gain root privileges often.
[04:15] <Empire666> running wine is faster then programs running nativly in windows right?
[04:15] <Shi> worst case scenario i hit the power button
[04:15] <travisat> Empire666: not necessarliy
[04:15] <Shi> how do I backspace in emacs? been a while
[04:15] <jamesish> Shi: not if someone's fdisked you, you don't. You should wait for the partition table to be written, or you might be screwed.
[04:15] <brrybnds> is there a startup folder/boot.ini/autoexec/service for ubuntu  I want to run a [sudo] command from the terminal everytime the computer is restarted and have the window/process hidden - is this possible?
[04:15] <jamesish> brrybnds: look into cron and @reboot
[04:16] <jamesish> brrybnds: @reboot is a flag in cron, not a separate command ;)
[04:16] <brrybnds> will do, thanks jamesish
[04:16] <Shi> how do I backspace in emacs? been a while
[04:16] <ubobo> lol
[04:16] <brrybnds> still new to this side of the tracks :)
[04:17] <jamesish> Shi: use vi and hit backspace in edit mode.
[04:17] <Shi> i wanna stay away from vi
[04:17] <jamesish> BAH!
[04:17]  * ebovine casts another vote for anything but emacs
[04:17] <Aristocles> jamesish that was a great answer. lol
[04:17] <Shi> my programming teacher will look at me funny if i use vi
[04:17] <jamesish> I was looking at an editor called sam today. Couldn't work the bloody thing out.
[04:17] <jamesish> It made vi look positively user friendly.
[04:18] <pat5star> ooooo, are we going to start a vi vs emacs war? yeah!
[04:18]  * larryblt ducks and covers
[04:18] <Lainy> Hello, if I want to enable X forwarding, do I add 'X11Forwarding yes' on the client or host sshd_config?
[04:18] <saikor> did someone sully the good name of vi?
[04:18]  * pat5star sides with vi :)
[04:18]  * thundr2 sides with nano :P
[04:18] <saikor> oh dear
[04:18] <Shi> so....
[04:18] <jamesish> Lainy: host, but there're a couple of other flags to enable too.
[04:18] <ebovine> I side with the editore that's always there.  :)
[04:18] <Shi> how do I backspace in emacs?
[04:19] <Lainy> jamesish: What other flags do I need to enable?
[04:19] <jamesish> Shi: something like meta-x then normal erase.
[04:19] <joricj> i have a screen inside an ssh inside another screen. when i try to detach it detaches the upper screen, how can i detach the screen inside the ssh?
[04:19] <Steven1> Can someone help me out with something real quick? I don't want to mess up and destroy my grub.
[04:19] <Henry> what's this mean "<VirtualHost 222.222.222.222>
[04:19] <Henry>         php_value upload_max_filesize 5M
[04:19] <Henry>         php_value register_globals 1
[04:19] <Henry>         php_value safe_mode 0
[04:19] <Henry>         php_flag safe_mode Off
[04:19] <FloodBot1> Henry: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:19] <Henry>         php_admin_value safe_mode 0        #
[04:20] <Steven1> Can someone help me out with something real quick? I don't want to mess up and destroy my grub.
[04:20] <icanhasadmin> Steven1: please don't ask to ask, just ask :)
[04:20] <ebovine> Steven1: Help with....
[04:20] <ebovine> ?
[04:20] <jamesish> Lainy: not sure off the top of my head. May be I'm misthinking. Just remember to backup sshd_config before you start and tehn restart sshd with each change.
[04:20] <Lainy> jamesish: Okay, thanks.
[04:20] <Steven1> Sure I guess. I'm trying to follow a guide for making my Ubuntu look like OSX.
[04:20] <AdrianStrays> How do I make a link to my trash/home folder on my desktop
[04:21] <Steven1> I'm currently trying to edit grub to show the OSX splash.
[04:21] <corinth> Where are the default wallpers located in Hardy?
[04:21] <travisat> Steven1: that is pretty easy to do
[04:21] <Steven1> Well I didn't want to destroy grub. I've done that before.
[04:21] <izinucs> !splash | Steven1
[04:22] <jamesish> AdrianStrays: as far as home dir goes, open command window and type ln -s ~<username> Desktop/
[04:22] <Trey> hello all I have a bit of a tricky question
[04:22] <Steven1> izinucs doesn't do anything.
[04:23] <travisat> Steven1: are you trying to change the boot up splash, with the progress bar or how the grub menu looks?
[04:23] <izinucs> Steve1, sorry  tried to get the bot to help out
[04:23] <egc> hi all
[04:23] <niuq> hi there's a way to install ubuntu over a logical partition?
[04:23] <Steven1> The boot splash I believe. I got the login one.
[04:23] <Trey> I installed Ubuntu but it dosn't seem to be detecting my laptop screen any ideas on how to fix that
[04:23] <jamesish> AdrianStrays: looks like the trash folder is .Trash in your home dir, so just symlink that the same way. ln -s ~/.Trash Desktop/Trash
[04:23] <egc> off the top of their head, can anybody suggest some free DNS services like zoneedit?
[04:24] <jamesish> egc: use tinydns, it's awesome.
[04:24] <izinucs> niuq, you mean IN a logical partition ... yes
[04:24] <travisat> Steven1: there are 4 steps to boot up 1) bios, 2) grub, 3)splash, 4)login
[04:24] <egc> jamesish: thanks, ill check that out
[04:24] <niuq> izinucs: mm im confused, i thought you  needed an active partition to load an os, and you can't active a logical partition, can you?
[04:24] <Steven1> Yeah well it said that this particular step was going to change grub and backing up was recommended. So it would be 3)splash I believe.
[04:25] <hikin> egc, http://www.google.com/search?q=related:zoneedit.com
[04:25] <AdrianStrays> :/ I didn't work
[04:25] <AdrianStrays> I went to Create Launcer
[04:25] <egc> hikin: awesome, didn't know about that ;)
[04:25] <ubobo> who
[04:25] <AdrianStrays> Application In Terminal
[04:25] <izinucs> niuq, well.. let me ask you this.. are you trying to create a dual boot and are almost out  of partitions on your HD?
[04:25] <AdrianStrays> ln -s ~/.Trash Desktop/Trash
[04:26] <AdrianStrays> A link appeared, but it didn't connect to the trash
[04:26] <travisat> Steven1: I don't know what you are trying to change, I don't see how grub should effect splash, and splash has problems at least for me
[04:26] <ubobo> ni men shi gan hen me de
[04:26] <Henry> which game can run in linux OS
[04:27] <Steven1> travista: Well I saw a mention of splash in the grub list. So I think you change the splash from in there. Not sure how exactly though.
[04:27] <Trey> anyone able to help me
[04:27] <Steven1> Henry: Next to nothing.
[04:27] <niuq> izinucs: i'm just wondering xD!!,... actually i have a dual boot with linux and windows an they are IN (xD) primary partitions
[04:27] <izinucs> niuq, what happens on install is ubuntu uses the grub boot manager. I you're doing a dual boot then on boot you'll get the grub menu and will be able to choose windows or ubuntu. Grub points to the correct location
[04:27] <Flannel> !cn | ubobo
[04:27] <Shi> is it possible remotely to log onto Ubuntu and use the GUI enviroment remotely?
[04:27] <travisat> Steven1: all that does is tell grub to boot the kernel with the splash option,  the only other thing might be other kernel options to pass
[04:28] <Flannel> ubobo: /join #ubuntu-cn
[04:28] <icanhasadmin> Shi: vnc?
[04:28] <izinucs> niuq, it doesn't matter if ubuntu is in logical or primary
[04:28] <travisat> Steven1: also unless you reboot often you won't see the splash very often.  I personally like seeing text in case something goes wrong so I can see it
[04:28] <Henry>  next to nothing?
[04:28] <niuq> izinucs: so i don't need a primary partition at all?
[04:29] <Steven1> travisat: Well it calls it editing the Usplash(Boot splash).
[04:29] <Shi> !vnc
[04:29] <izinucs> niuq, not if you're dual booting
[04:29] <Shi> hmm
[04:29] <Steven1> travisat: Ah well. I wouldn't understand it if I saw it.
[04:29] <niuq> izinucs: why dual boot?
[04:30] <travisat> Steven1: ah ok usplash, now I know what you are talking about.  I have never had any permanent damage from it but I have had problems getting it to work
[04:30] <Steven1> travisat: It says to use SUM Startup manager to do it. But I haven't been able to get that working.
[04:30] <bluefox83> ok, who knows how to boost signal for a dell inspiron 1525 ?
[04:30] <bluefox83> my fiance's laptop can detect open networks, but wont connect to them for some reason
[04:30] <niuq> izinucs: can't i have ubuntu in a logical partition if i'm not using dual boot?
[04:30] <Steven1> travisat: Ah.
[04:30] <fivehorizons> Anyone know how to disable wireless connection from starting during startup in xubuntu??
[04:30] <niuq> izinucs: well that would be pretty weird...
[04:30] <travisat> Steven1: but good luck sorry I can't help
[04:30] <izinucs> niuq, because in dual boot window is typically installed first and has  the boot partition and master boot record containing  grub..
[04:31] <ijustam> is it possible to create a new tab in gnome terminal via command?
[04:31] <izinucs> ijustam, right mouse click if your in the gui
[04:31] <ijustam> i mean through text
[04:31] <ijustam> like, through a script
[04:31] <izinucs> ijustam, oh.. i don't know
[04:32] <node357> ijustam: http://www.penguin-soft.com/penguin/man/1/gnome-terminal.html
[04:32] <niuq> izinucs: ok i see, so windows makes the active partition and that's all you need to load an os that's in a logical partition xD....
[04:32] <ijustam> oh ho
[04:32] <ijustam> thank you very much
[04:32] <izinucs> niuq, you got it.
[04:32] <pat5star> fivehorizons: in your /etc/network/interfaces you probably have a stanza for your wireless nic (for example, if it's wlan0) set to auto, just comment that out by preceding it with a #
[04:32] <node357> hope it helps
[04:32] <niuq> izinucs: thank you :)
[04:32] <izinucs> niuq, np
[04:32] <AlexHoover> For a network server, for file storage and some simple php/perl script testing, would 6.06 or 7.10 be more stable?
[04:33] <Stroganoff> anyone interested in testing my lightweight but feature complete install script, based on icewm? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=741631
[04:33] <izinucs> AlexHoover, 7.10 then if you want  upgrade next month to  the new  LTS verion.
[04:34] <erichj> is flash player plugin package still broken for 7.10?
[04:34] <AlexHoover> izinucs, yeah, thought so. Thanks!
[04:34] <icanhasadmin> erichj: don't know what package you're talking about. my flash works fine.
[04:34] <izinucs> :)
[04:35] <hikin> erichj, for 64bit editions? no, it's fixed now.
[04:36] <fivehorizons> pat5star, it has auto eth0
[04:36] <bluefox83> gnight
[04:36] <Steven1> Anyone on here know how to get AWN working?
[04:36] <r00723r0> Any good guitar authoring programs similar to Guitar Pro?
[04:37] <fivehorizons> and then iface eth0 inet static followed by the network ip details
[04:37] <Tamale> can I make it so my mouse cursor can be 'totally hidden'?   normally the cursor remains on the screen by a margin of a pixel or two.. you can't move it so far to the edge that it disappears completely.  Can this 'margin' be reduced to 0 so that you CAN hide the cursor off in the bottom right corner?
[04:37] <artenius> !pastebin
[04:37] <artenius> !paste
[04:38] <corinth> Steven1, What's wrong with AWN?
[04:38] <_IronSid3_> por favor onde consigo ajuda od ubuntu em portugues?
[04:38] <artenius> !es | _IronSid3_
[04:39] <_IronSid3_> artenius ?
[04:39] <chris062689> I'm having a huge problem with my Ubuntu install.
[04:39] <chris062689> Think anyone could help?
[04:39] <zamnedix> Whats your problem?
[04:39] <icanhasadmin> !ask chris062689
[04:39] <izinucs> the bot's down
[04:39] <icanhasadmin> hm, i see lol
[04:39] <zamnedix> what?
[04:39] <chris062689> I insert my flash drive, and it appears to detect it, but when I run the 'mount' command, it doesn't show up there
[04:39] <icanhasadmin> chris062689: please don't ask to ask a question, just ask it.
[04:39] <chris062689> So I'm unable to mount it.
[04:39] <zamnedix> the bot?
[04:40] <chris062689> But I can alter it using fstab
[04:40] <zamnedix> Oh, hotplug
[04:40] <izinucs> zamnedix, ubutu is a bot
[04:40] <chris062689> but I've been able to mount it before, it just suddently stopped working
[04:40] <chris062689> I've kind of crippled my install, I'm using command-line right now.
[04:40] <zamnedix> try:
[04:40] <zamnedix> hotplug usb
[04:41] <chris062689> command not found.
[04:41] <zamnedix> ok just type hotplug then
[04:41] <zamnedix> then it should automount
[04:42] <chris062689> well it doesn't show up in 'mount'
[04:42] <zamnedix> if you are running ubuntu, it would be /media
[04:42] <Piffer> to get opengl support, which modules/libraries do I need to install?
[04:42] <izinucs> Piffer, what kind of card do you have??
[04:43] <chris062689> But zamnedix: nope.
[04:43] <Piffer> intel... hold on
[04:43] <zamnedix> Well, chris
[04:43] <zamnedix> Thats the extent of my 13-year old intelligence
[04:43] <fivehorizons> I'm still looking for a way to make my wired connection take precedent over my wireless connection on startup
[04:43] <zamnedix> beyond editing fstab
[04:43] <Piffer> intel 855gm ..laptop
[04:43] <izinucs> Piffer hang on.
[04:44] <Piffer> just trying to get navit to compile....
[04:44] <chris062689> Ok I'm back in GNOME
[04:44] <chris062689> But when I attempt to mount it, it says..
[04:44] <nith_> does anyone know how to type the character that shows up as ~V in vim?
[04:44] <Ava-> can someone point me to any docs about makeing gnome autologin after like 3 seconds then autolaunch and application?
[04:44] <chris062689> Unable to mount the selected volume, mount: can't find /dev/sdc1 in /etc/fstab
[04:44] <zamnedix> oh crap
[04:44] <zamnedix> you have to modify fstab then
[04:46] <izinucs> Piffer, the driver should be installed by default.. when you installed did you get an icon by the  clock that mentioned restricted drivers? if  not go to System/Admin/Restricted drivers manager and see if you can turn them on there.
[04:46] <Piffer> ok, i will check that out, thanks
[04:47] <peepsalot> am I the only one that thinks file-roller is the buggiest piece of crap ever
[04:47] <Piffer> hmm just a modem driver in restricted drivers...
[04:47] <zamnedix> fileroller works fine for me
[04:47] <izinucs> Piffer, check synaptic .. search for i810
[04:47] <Daisuke_Ido> peepsalot, yep, you are
[04:48] <Daisuke_Ido> what exactly is your problem with it?
[04:48] <prettyricky> this question is so of topic but does anyone know if there is a HTML chat room?
[04:48] <peepsalot> it crashes on every other file i try to extract
[04:48] <Starnestommy> prettyricky: maybe #html or #web
[04:48] <prettyricky> ty
[04:49] <atnan> Hi folks. Is it possible to specify during an "apt-get upgrade" that I only want packages to come from "gutsy-security"?
[04:50] <jarluu> hi
[04:50] <jarluu> can i get a free shell account here ?
[04:50] <chris062689> I can't figure this stupid thing out
[04:50] <chris062689> All I need to do is mount my jumpdrive
[04:50] <chris062689> so I can reinstall Ubuntu.
[04:50] <chris062689> But it keeps on saying it's unable to due to it can't find it in fstab.
[04:50] <Steven1> Can someone please tell me if I need an entirely different desktop environment to run Avant Window Manager.
[04:50] <chris062689> Steven1: Just compiz.
[04:50] <corinth> Steven1 What's the problem?
[04:51] <chris062689> Which is included in the default Ubuntu.
[04:51] <izinucs> Steven1 did you install it from synaptic  or apt-get?  cause it works fine for me.
[04:51] <Steven1> I got compiz...but I can't run AWN. I click on it in Applications>Accesories and nothing happens.
[04:51] <Zelta> if I have issues about firefox on ubuntu, shall I ask here or in the firefox channel?
[04:51] <Steven1> Both izinucs and manually from the site too.
[04:51] <bazhang> Steven1: the avant window navigator? you need to enable their repos and install from there
[04:52] <fredmv> is there a simple way to record XMMS output to an audio file?
[04:52] <corinth> Steven1, launch avant-window-navigator from a terminal, tell us what the output is.
[04:52] <fredmv> perhaps a plug-in?
[04:52] <Steven1> corinth: What's the command?
[04:52] <r00723r0> Alright, whenever I use my audio driver for a few minutes, my gnome-panel dies off and I can't open gnome-terminal.
[04:52] <r00723r0> Any advice?
[04:53] <chris062689> Is there anyway to create a bootable iso image from Windows?
[04:53] <Steven1> corinth: What's the command for terminal to launch it?
[04:53] <fragged> Mhm, which package is mkfs.fat32 in?
[04:53] <chris062689> Of an Ubuntu iso?
[04:53] <icanhasadmin> fragged: huh?
[04:53] <corinth> Steven1, avant-window-navigator
[04:53] <Steven1> chris: Have you tried alcohol 120 or Daemon Tools?
[04:53] <Odd-rationale> fragged: you mean mkfs.vfat?
[04:54] <izinucs> chris062689, there are programs that will burn an iso in windows.. search for them on www.sourceforge.net
[04:54] <chris062689> I need to "burn" it to a flash drive.
[04:54] <Odd-rationale> fragged: I dont think there is a mkfs.fat32
[04:54] <chris062689> I don't have a CD drive.
[04:54] <Steven1> corinth: Tried that. Got 'bash:avant-window-manager: command not found'
[04:54] <fragged> Odd-rationale, cheers sounds about right
[04:54] <chris062689> Would source forge have something like that?!
[04:54] <izinucs> chris062689, check out Steven1 post above..
[04:54] <bazhang> www.pendrivelinux.com chris062689
[04:54] <chris062689> How can I use Daemon Tools to create a bootable flash drive?
[04:54] <chris062689> from an iso?
[04:55] <cwillu> chris062689, the install guide for putting ubuntu on an eeepc will have the instructions you need (it doesn't have a cd either)
[04:55] <chris062689> I don't want to install the OS to the flash drive.
[04:55] <Steven1> chris: Well you can mount it. Don't know about burning to a flash drive.
[04:55] <corinth> Steven1, sounds like it's not actually installed. How did you install it?
[04:55] <chris062689> I know this, but that isn't for Windows.
[04:55] <fragged> ugh i hate usb sticks
[04:55] <fragged> constantly lost
[04:55] <MTecknology> how do I find the UUID's of certain drives?
[04:55] <chris062689> And for some reason, my linux install is really screwed, so I can't mount it in Ubuntu.
[04:55] <izinucs> MTecknology, blkid
[04:55] <Steven1> corinth from the backport repos, from the website, and also from terminal.
[04:55] <punga> good evening, all
[04:55] <chris062689> So I need a way of creating a bootable iso install image of Ubuntu from Windows.
[04:55] <dissocia7ive> I'm going to download the lastest ubuntu stable iso do I need to choose an iso for my language or what?
[04:56] <chris062689> Is there such a program?
[04:56] <jteacher> good afternoon, all
[04:56] <osphy> lost password and dont have a cd. How to recover from grub ? it is asking password for single user also.
[04:56] <fragged> osphy, read the grub manual
[04:56] <punga> I'm running a freshly installed gutsy server (i386, though my architecture is amd64), and I'm having trouble getting the restricted nvidia driver to work
[04:56] <izinucs> dissocia7ive, no  .. get the 32bit version
[04:56] <Steven1> corinth: But it's not letting me install it from terminal anymore. Only from synaptic and the website.
[04:56] <fragged> or maybe learn2use linux :D
[04:56] <travisat> chris062689: google for free cd burners, there are several for windows,
[04:56] <cwillu> chris062689, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick, look at Preparing the Flash Drive manually
[04:57] <punga> I was hoping someone here might have some experience in this area?
[04:57] <Shadow420> ok I want to add ubuntu linux to my windows bootloader instead of grub overriding the MBR how do that
[04:57] <Odd-rationale> MTecknology: ls /dev/disk/by-uuid/ ?
[04:57] <icanhasadmin> Shadow4
[04:57] <izinucs> travisat, he wants to create a live bootable cd on a flash drive without installing it on a flash drive.. for a reinstall..
[04:57] <icanhasadmin> Shadow4
[04:57] <dissocia7ive> then it has native language support?
[04:57] <icanhasadmin> hm, i'm sorry that was odd
[04:57] <travisat> izinucs: ah
[04:57] <FloodBot1> icanhasadmin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:57] <MTecknology> Odd-rationale, do you know how to reassign UUID?
[04:57] <cwillu> chris062689, and then use something like daemontools to mount the iso to copy the files where they need to go, or just burn a cd and go that way
[04:57] <corinth> Tried installing it using the add/remove tool, Steven1?
[04:57] <chris062689> and I have to use Windows.
[04:57] <Odd-rationale> MTecknology: nope. sorry.
[04:57] <chris062689> You can't just copy / paste them onto the jumpdrive.
[04:57] <dissocia7ive> I havent used ubuntu like since years
[04:57] <cwillu> chris062689, how do you mean?
[04:58] <izinucs> travisat, and he neglects to put all  the info on one line so others know what he's talking  abot.
[04:58] <isforinsects>  /quit
[04:58] <Ava-> guys I set autologin up under gdm.conf but whenever it autologs in the res is wrong
[04:58] <Ava-> if I just manually logged in before that wasn't the case
[04:58] <chris062689> You can't just copy / paste the files onto the jumpdrive, you have to do it a certain way.
[04:58] <travisat> izinucs: heh
[04:58] <Ava-> anyone know what's going on?
[04:58] <iowahc> Hy, i created a new swap partition, how do i add an uuid to it?
[04:58] <cwillu> chris062689, did you read the link I posted?  it tells you how to set it up from windows
[04:58] <chris062689> I don't need to INSTALL ubuntu onto the jumpdrive, just boot the installer from the jumpdrive.
[04:58] <bazhang> chris062689: I gave you a link as well best read up a bit
[04:58] <cwillu> chris062689, that's how you do it
[04:59] <icanhasadmin> chris062689: although ubuntu actually does install very well on a flash drive
[04:59] <Steven1> corinth: Found out it's not 'manager' it's 'navigator' that I have installed. The message I get is: Error: Screen isn't composited. Please run compiz (-fusion) or another compositing manager.
[04:59] <izinucs> chris062689, your getting bad answers because you are not stating everything you want to do in one post.. there's almost 1200 people in here..
[04:59] <corinth> Steven1, did you enable your graphics card's accelerated driver?
[04:59] <punga> FATAL: Error running install command for nvidia_new <- what could be causing this?
[05:00] <cwillu> chris062689, if you're just wanting to use wubi, then just copying the files across will also work, just launch the autorun.ini file by hand on the target
[05:00] <Steven1> corinth: Yes. It's a 'restricted' driver but I got it.
[05:00] <osphy> Is there any way to recover password without cd and single user asks for password ?
[05:01] <Steven1> corinth: Ok the Awn manager is oddly working now.
[05:01] <corinth> Steven1, Right-click on the desktop and select "change desktop background" to get to the appearance preferences. Then, click on the Visual Effects tab. Tell me which option is selected there.
[05:01] <izinucs> cwillu, he wants to install a live cd image to a flash for  reinstall..  not install to a flash for running as a hd..
[05:01] <Shadow420> I want to add ubuntu  to my windows bootloader instead of grub overriding the MBR how do that?
[05:01] <Steven1> corinth: None is selected.
[05:01] <cwillu> izinucs, that's what I was telling him to do (chris062689, )
[05:01] <corinth> Select either "Normal" or "Extra". That should fix your problem, Steven1.
[05:02] <cwillu> izinucs, (chris062689, )  the first stage of installing to the flash drive on a eeepc is installing the livecd image to a usb thumbdrive in a bootable fashion
[05:02] <izinucs> cwillu, ah ok.. I didn't look at the link.. just was following his multiline posts and put  things together.
[05:02]  * sol1tude|afk is now auto-away after 2h idle
[05:02] <cwillu> which sounds like exactly what he needs
[05:02] <cwillu> izinucs, :)
[05:02] <Steven1> corinth: 'The Composite extension is not available.'
[05:03] <iowahc> Can i somehow see if my ubuntu uses a swap device?^^
[05:03] <corinth> Steven1, what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[05:04] <Steven1> corinth: 7.10 'Gutsy'
[05:04] <Odd-rationale> iowahc: type "top" in terminal
[05:04] <corinth> Steven1: ATI or NVIDIA?
[05:04] <cwillu> iowahc, swapon -s in a terminal
[05:04] <Steven1> corinth: ATI X850
[05:05] <iowahc> ok, there is none, how do i specify one, my swap Device has no UUID
[05:05] <In-Sane> Can I get the logs of Ubuntu?
[05:06] <cwillu> iowahc, do you know if the device is already setup for swap? (besides the uuid)
[05:06] <izinucs> In-Sane, /var/log
[05:06] <In-Sane> Can I get the logs of #Ubuntu?
[05:06] <Odd-rationale> !logs
[05:06] <Odd-rationale> no bot?
[05:06] <Ava-> guys I configured gdm.conf to autologin a user.. well it works but when I autologin I get a HUGE resolution
[05:06] <iowahc> ok, thx got it, forgot to make swap fs
[05:06] <In-Sane> hmmz
[05:06] <Ava-> if I manually login the same user that doesn't happen
[05:06] <Ava-> any ideas?
[05:07] <cwillu> Ava-, how did you configure gdm.conf?
[05:07] <cwillu> Ava-, pastebin it
[05:07] <cwillu> !pastebin
[05:07] <Ava-> with vi
[05:07] <Ava-> :)
[05:07] <Ava-> I'll do better than pastebin
[05:07] <Ava-> sec
[05:07] <Odd-rationale> are any of the bots working?
[05:07] <maog_> hey the vmsplice or w/e exploit is it still exploitable on 7.10 on website?
[05:07] <Steven1> Floodbot is Odd.
[05:07] <cwillu> Ava-, by which I meant, /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom is the file you want to be changing :p
[05:08] <satu> #semarang
[05:08] <Ava-> oh?
[05:08] <Ava-> I'm changing the wrong file?
[05:08] <Odd-rationale> Steven1: :P
[05:08] <satu> %C7
[05:08] <Ava-> http://inpherno.com:8080/gdm.conf
[05:08] <cwillu> Ava-, ya, although it's not the root of the problem
[05:08] <Steven1> corinth: You still there?
[05:08] <cwillu> Ava-, -> line 3 :p
[05:08] <themime> does ubuntu have a network manager for wifi?
[05:08] <corinth> Steven1: Yeah, just thinking.
[05:08] <Steven1> I belive it's built in themime.
[05:09] <themime> Steven1: how do i access it?
[05:09] <cwillu> Ava-, I don't think you want timedlogin enabled
[05:09] <Ava-> cw: what about line 3?
[05:09] <Odd-rationale> In-Sane: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[05:09] <Steven1> themime: Did you check network tools and network?
[05:09] <cwillu> Ava-, read it
[05:09] <Ava-> bah
[05:09] <Ava-> yeah yeah
[05:09] <Ava-> :)
[05:09] <Ava-> I did it via keyboard
[05:10] <themime> Steven1: i have a extremely basic install with fluxbox
[05:10] <izinucs> Feels like we're in the stone age without the bot.. no shortcuts
[05:10] <cwillu> Ava-, mythtv/buntu uses xfce afaik, which acts a little bit weird in this respect
[05:10] <themime> an*
[05:10] <iowahc> my X always has a load of 10%+ , running Gutsy with Compiz enabled, normal?
[05:10] <Steven1> themime: Have no idea what that is.
[05:10] <Ava-> cw: it's using compiz
[05:10] <cwillu> Ava-, you can tell mythtv to change the resolution in the frontend (its in one of the menus),
[05:11] <Ava-> you tell it what res to use
[05:11] <Ava-> but it won't change the res of your desktop
[05:11] <cwillu> Ava-, alternatively an appropriate xrandr command could be put in a script to be launched at the start
[05:11] <Ava-> hmm
[05:11] <Ava-> no farmiliar
[05:11] <Ava-> not*
[05:11] <cwillu> Ava-, that's how I've got mine setup to work (didn't have the patience to do it the right way :p)
[05:12] <cwillu> Ava-, something like "xrandr --output VGA-0 --mode 1024x768" should get you started
[05:12] <cwillu> although it depends on the card and such (just xrandr by itself should give you some clue)
[05:12] <Floyd> Is there any Bandwidth limiter for linux? I want to limit bandwidth in a specif application i am running
[05:12] <corinth> How do I activate emerald after installing it?
[05:13] <CVD-PR> Microsolution Backpack usb cdrw driver?
[05:13] <fivehorizons> Anyone here an expert on VNC and SSH?
[05:13] <cwillu> yes, but I'm tired :p
[05:13] <izinucs> corinth, although some have success with emerald. I didn't
[05:13] <Steven1> corinth: Was wondering that myself. I have a them I want to install with no 'Apply' button.
[05:13] <Steven1> *theme
[05:14] <corinth> I know it's something like emerald-blah-blah --replace , or something.
[05:14] <Steven1> yeah
[05:14] <Odd-rationale> Steven1: If you have the theme in emerald theme manager, double click shoudl do
[05:14] <Steven1> I did that. Nothing happens.
[05:15] <Kleedrac> Hey guys, for some reason my 7.10 box has started putting the screen to sleep at about 1/2 hour and it shouldn't be according to the screensaver settings, where should I check?
[05:15] <Odd-rationale> corinth: yes in the run dialog (alt+f2) do "emerald --replace"
[05:15] <Odd-rationale> Steven1: hmm.
[05:15] <dwloetz> need some help with soundcard, AC 97-ICH4, have no sound at all, have fooled with properties and looked in forums to no avail, you are my last hope
[05:16] <Steven1> Odd-rationale: After entering that I got: (emerald:23649): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
[05:16] <kitche> dwloetz: is everything unmuted and does sudo modprobe snd_intel8x0 output anything or no?
[05:16] <Ava-> cwillu thanks for the help btw
[05:16] <corinth> Old-rationale, thanks man.
[05:16] <Ava-> ok once auto login is setup
[05:16] <cwillu> np
[05:17] <dwloetz> everything unmuted
[05:17] <Ava-> how do I get it to auto launch a program
[05:17] <Odd-rationale> Steven1: after doing emerald --replace in a run dialog?
[05:17] <Steven1> corinth: Didn't work for me. I think I messed up something. Cause none of the compiz managers are working like they used to.
[05:17] <icanhasadmin> kitche: I'm leaving in a minute, but he may want to reinstall the newest version of alsa and options model="auto"
[05:17] <Steven1> Odd-rationale: Yes
[05:18] <dwloetz> tried that and it did nothing
[05:18] <AdrianStrays> How do I make it so it doesn't show my partitions/drives on the desktop?
[05:18] <Odd-rationale> Steven1: What version of ubuntu are you using? and how did you install emerald?
[05:18] <Steven1> AdrianStrays: Put them in the trash
[05:18] <AdrianStrays> Will that make them stay gone?
[05:18] <Alaydriem> xchat
[05:18] <Steven1> Adrian: Unless you put them back on your desktop I'd figure.
[05:19] <AdrianStrays> It says I can't move it to the trash
[05:19] <Steven1> Odd-rationale: 7.10 'Gutsy' and I don't remember how I installed it.
[05:19] <Optimus55> sup ppl
[05:19] <fledgling047> >:o
[05:20] <julio> #channels
[05:20] <Odd-rationale> AdrianStrays: the easiest way is to use Ubuntu Tweaks.
[05:20] <AdrianStrays> How do I get that?
[05:20] <bazhang> http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[05:20] <AdrianStrays> Ah
[05:20] <cwillu> AdrianStrays, there's an option in gconf-editor-> /apps/nautilus/preferences/valumes_visible, just uncheck it
[05:20] <AdrianStrays> Thanks
[05:20] <cwillu> volumes_visible rather
[05:21] <Steven1> Reinstalling emerald. Maybe that will fix it.
[05:21] <Odd-rationale> Steven1: the one in the repos works fine for me. othewise, i really don't know
[05:22] <Steven1> Maybe it is working. I just can't get the rest of the Mac OSX look finished.
[05:22] <Steven1> It called for getting AWN working.
[05:22] <talcite_> hey guys, is anyone here a web programmer?
[05:22] <r00723r0> After a few minutes of sound usage, my gnome-panel freezes and gnome-terminal doesn't open. Any suggestions?
[05:23] <talcite_> how do you figure out where someone's been directed from?
[05:23] <fivehorizons> Is there any way to completely disable my pci wireless card without having to physically remove it from the system?
[05:23] <Ava-> cwillus: do you know how to autolaunch and application when after login?
[05:23] <talcite_> i.e. I have page A and page B. I want to know if someone's visited page B from page A
[05:23] <themime> is there a network configure tool for wifi?
[05:23] <kitche> talcite_: with simple php code
[05:24] <kitche> talcite_: and apache logs that automatically
[05:24] <Steven1> Ah I think I figured it out. Compiz isn't installed correctly.
[05:24] <n2diy> fivehorizons: ifdown "cardname"
[05:24] <Odd-rationale> themime: something like networkmanager?
[05:25] <Steven1> I ran compiz in terminal and got 'Checking for Xgl: not present.  No whitelisted driver found  aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity'
[05:25] <fivehorizons> n2diy: how do i find what "cardname" is?
[05:25] <Odd-rationale> fivehorizons: iwconfig
[05:25] <n2diy> fivehorizons: ifconfig
[05:25] <crdlb> Steven1: what driver are you using?
[05:26] <themime> Odd-rationale: does NetworkManager work instantly? how do i configure it to my wifi?
[05:26] <AdrianStrays> Alright, someone told me there are progams which can be used to alter the workspaces so each one has its own background.  Can anyone tell me one
[05:26] <Steven1> crdlb: Restricted Driver for my ATI X850.
[05:26] <crdlb> Steven1: then you need xserver-xgl
[05:26] <owen1> when installing an app, where should i do the apt-get command? in home?
[05:26] <Odd-rationale> themime: Your wifi is working you just want to connect to a network?
[05:26] <crdlb> that version of fglrx does not have AIGLX support
[05:27] <Steven1> crdlb: OK installing it now.
[05:27] <nikrud> owen1 it doesn't matter
[05:27] <nikrud> AdrianStrays I've heard of wallpapoz
[05:27] <themime> Odd-rationale: correct.  i installed the proper driver, and it shows up under ifconfig and iwconfig
[05:27] <Optimus55> is there anyway to get ubuntu wallpapers to change automatically and fade into each other?
[05:28] <Steven1> crdlb: It's still saying the same thing. Do I need to restart or relogin?
[05:28] <owen1> nikrud: so apt-get will install it in the right place or will some files will remain in the current locationL
[05:28] <owen1> ?
[05:28] <AdrianStrays> Thanks
[05:28] <Odd-rationale> themime: you have the networkmanager applet running in your notification area on your panel?
[05:28] <nikrud> owen1 the correct location. You can see where a packages has been installed to with   dpkg -L <packagename>
[05:28] <Name141> Hello, I am trying to get my Brother Intellifax 1080c to work , anyone know how to get started?
[05:28] <Odd-rationale> AdrianStrays: Or KDE can do that by default
[05:29] <owen1> dpkp -L paint*
[05:29] <izinucs> owen1, or if you haven't installed anything yet you might try Add/Remove or Synaptic as graphical installers.
[05:29] <nikrud> owen1 you need the full actual package name I think
[05:29] <Name141> I found the supposed driver for it online , on the brother site
[05:30] <Steven1> crdlb: I'm going to restart and see if compiz works then.
[05:30] <owen1> nikrud: ok. so if i get it right. apt-get will install my app in the current dir, and i don't need to delete any file.
[05:30] <themime> Odd-rationale: heh, well, im actually running ubuntu-server on my laptop because it only has 128MB ram, and ubuntu was too much for it, and i have fluxbox.  i apt-get install network-manager, but my understanding is that it is just a plain daemon.  do i HAVE to install a gui to use it?
[05:31] <Odd-rationale> themime: it should come with a gui. in a run dialog try "nm-applet?
[05:31] <Odd-rationale> *"nm-applet"
[05:31] <nikrud> owen1 no, it doesn't install to the current dir, it gets installed where the package is defined to go. usually it'll put stuff in /usr/bin , /usr/share , and often /etc
[05:32] <themime> Odd-rationale: not installed, needs network-manager-gnome.  someone suggested this earlier but i was hoping i could do this without installing 1000 gnome dependencies
[05:32] <Odd-rationale> themime: i see.
[05:33] <diagon> I'm interested in always booting to bash and only loading X if I need it for something, could someone tell me where it says to load X up in the boot process?
[05:33] <nikrud> owen1 the flow is it downloads the package to /var/cache/apt/archive , then extracts it to the proper locations, and optionally runs some commands to let the rest of the system know it's installed
[05:33] <owen1> nikrud: great. is it the same when i compile and install an app? (./configure make make install)?
[05:33] <diagon> or after the boot process or whatever
[05:33] <themime> Odd-rationale: is there some alternate, or should i find out how to manually do it and make a script?
[05:33] <nikrud> owen1 no, that's where you do need to think about location. By default, most will install  into /usr/local/<some dirs>
[05:33] <Odd-rationale> themime: I dont know how to connect to a wireless network from the command line in Ubuntu. I do know how to do it in Arch. :P
[05:34] <owen1> nikrud: got it. thanks a lot.
[05:34] <themime> hehe, ok thanks anyway, ill just google it
[05:34] <nikrud> owen1  you can do  ./configure --help , and it will tell you much. Including the installation directories
[05:34] <themime> and if not, ill come back and see if someone knows how, or check ##linux
[05:34] <Shi> I created user accounts for friends and w have discovered that while I installed emacs they get fatal erros/core dumps trying to use emacs
[05:34] <Odd-rationale> themime: let me know what you find.
[05:34] <owen1> nikrud: does it matter where do i put the source files?
[05:35] <sphinxx> hi can someone pm me, i need help setting up partitions for ubuntu
[05:35] <Odd-rationale> sphinxx: It is better to ask in the channel. What help do you need?
[05:35] <nikrud> owen1 no. I usually have a directory in my home called projects, and compile in there. The main reason to do the compiling in home is you have easy editing of the files
[05:35] <diagon> I'm trying to tell my machine to not automatically load X windows, but to instead go directly to bash...
[05:36] <sphinxx> Ok, thanks, I hate to sound like a noob but I am with linux, I have a laptop 30gb hard drive, I want to partition for ubuntu - i have the 7.10 alternate cd
[05:36] <sphinxx> i want to leave 16gb or so for a later windows xp install
[05:36] <diagon> I remember I did it before, by changing default_window_manager (somewhere) = /usr/bin/bash I Think
[05:36] <nikrud> diagon install sysv-rc-conf , and turn off gdm. Next boot you will get bash.
[05:36] <Odd-rationale> sphinxx: it is a better idea to install xp first
[05:36] <Shi> I created user accounts for friends and w have discovered that while I installed emacs they get fatal erros/core dumps trying to use emacs
[05:36] <Shi> what could be the problem
[05:36] <Steven1> Ah damnit. The toolbars are all gone again
[05:36] <diagon> nikrud: this is actually for a box that doesn't have an internet connection :P
[05:37] <diagon> nikrud: so I was trying to muck about in the files (figure it's somewhere in /etc)
[05:37] <sphinxx> when I do install ubuntu though, how many partitions will I need?
[05:37] <nikrud> diagon ah. then,   sudo mv /etc/rc2.d/S30gdm /etc/rc2.d/K30gdm
[05:37] <Odd-rationale> sphinxx: install xp normally first. then the ubuntu installer will offer you to shrink the xp partition. and setup for dual-booting
[05:37] <fivehorizons> Thanks for the help Odd-rationale and n2diy
[05:37] <owen1> nikrud: so the way to choose a location is by adding an argument to ./configure
[05:37] <Odd-rationale> sphinxx: reccomend 2
[05:37] <diagon> ahhhh that's right, the S->K thing
[05:37] <diagon> thanks very much
[05:37] <sphinxx> because i get confused, intially I see it just needs /root and swap
[05:38] <sphinxx> but then I see it says its a good idea to have /home and there are others too?
[05:38] <Odd-rationale> sphinxx: one for root (/) and another for swap.
[05:38] <Steven1> Yeah the minimize and maximize buttons on firefox are gone.
[05:38] <Shi> I created user accounts for friends and w have discovered that while I installed emacs they get fatal erros/core dumps trying to use emacs, what could be the problem?
[05:38] <alan_m> recommended 2, you CAN have home on a 3rd, but that gets things complicated for a newer user. in my opinion Sphinxx
[05:38] <nikrud> owen1 exactly.  --prefix=/usr is common, but in general you should install to /usr/local , it's defined in the file hierarchy standard as the place for locally compiled apps/libs
[05:38] <Odd-rationale> sphinxx: a /home partition is a generally a good idea
[05:38] <Odd-rationale> sphinxx: But you can even get away with just one /
[05:38] <sphinxx> how big should a /home partition be, if my complete linux space is going to be about 14gb
[05:38] <Azur3> ok, flash isn't working on firefox (7.10 ubuntu is distro)  I have installed missing plugins, restarted firefox, and it says  that i still need to install missing plugins, that adobe is already installed
[05:39] <Azur3> should I uninstall adobe and try again? and if so how would I do that?
[05:39] <Odd-rationale> sphinxx: that size i would not make a separte home partions
[05:39] <nikrud> sphinxx with that small a partition, it makes better sense to not have a separate home. you're gonna squeeze something otherwise
[05:39] <sphinxx> hmm ok
[05:39] <sol1tude|afk> hello, somebody knows something abouut grub error 14 ? it appears when i try to boot my 7.0.4
[05:39] <sol1tude|afk> ?
[05:39] <sphinxx> this is a lot faster than forums heh
[05:40] <owen1> nikrud: and if i don't do anything i need to hope that the creator of the app decided to install in /usr/local/ ?
[05:40] <alan_m> sphinxx, instant reply's are awesome eh :)
[05:40] <nikrud> sphinxx think in terms of at least 5-6gb for / if you still want to have a separate. home. I use 12gb.
[05:40]  * sol1tude is back from: auto-away after 2h idle (been away for 38m)
[05:40] <nikrud> owen1  ./configure --help will tell you specifically
[05:40] <owen1> nikrud: easy. coool.
[05:40] <nikrud> owen1 assuming it's a well designed app :)
[05:41] <owen1> nikrud: paint.net (gimp killer)
[05:41] <kitche> !away | sol1tude
[05:41] <Steven1> Awesome AWN is finally working.
[05:41] <sphinxx> if i want to do the /home, i have to go into manual , not guided partioning, on my ubuntu alternate cd?
[05:41] <kitche> is the bot still dead .....
[05:41] <nikrud> owen1 ouch, too fresh for me :)
[05:41] <nikrud> sphinxx yes
[05:41] <nikrud> kitche very. Back tomorrow
[05:41] <sol1tude> ?
[05:41] <sphinxx> is tehre a reason for installing xp first?
[05:42] <Odd-rationale> sphinxx: ubuntu can find if xp is installed
[05:42] <warriorness> hey all, what package do i install to get fonts such as Impact for openoffice?
[05:42] <bung> hey i just got a new usb external with a sata drive in there, should i mount with sync or no?
[05:42] <alan_m> sphinxx, because installing it later would wipe out GRUB...and thats bad.
[05:42] <Odd-rationale> sphinxx: xp can't find if ubuntu is installed.
[05:42] <sphinxx> but if i have just have a partition ready to install xp on, that wouldn't work?
[05:42] <Odd-rationale> at least not for me
[05:42] <sphinxx> like i would make a /boot in the first 100mb of the hard disk
[05:42] <taurusivy> hi, how can i match '2' in the middle of two whitespace in regexp in awk?
[05:42] <sphinxx> for the boot loader or whatever
[05:43] <nikrud> warriorness it's downloaded and installed for you by msttcorefonts.  ubuntu-restricted-extras will pull in that package, as well as some others that are useful
[05:44] <warriorness> mhm
[05:44] <warriorness> nikrud: thanks
[05:44] <nikrud> sphinxx no need to have a /boot partition anymore, that's a holdover from when it was a requirement for lilo (the linux loader)
[05:44] <Odd-rationale> or if you have an old bios
[05:44] <owen1> nikrud: i don't see info about installation location...i guess migel de casa didn't think about it..
[05:44] <nikrud> owen1 hahahahaha I'd trust that guy
[05:45] <sphinxx> so where is the boot loader like grub stored if theres no /boot partition
[05:45] <owen1> nikrud: i guess...
[05:45] <Odd-rationale> sphinxx: in /boot
[05:45] <Flannel> sphinxx: /boot is inside of / if there is no separate partition
[05:45] <Odd-rationale> sphinxx: but it wont be on a sep partition
[05:45] <nikrud> sphinxx in the /boot and /boot/grub directories, and in the mbr
[05:45] <sphinxx> oh ok
[05:46] <sphinxx> would this work
[05:46] <sphinxx> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
[05:46] <sphinxx> 	| 			 |		|	winxp ntfs   |
[05:46] <sphinxx> 100mb   |			 |		|		     |
[05:46] <sphinxx> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
[05:46] <FloodBot1> sphinxx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:46] <nikrud> owen1 he started gnome (or was one of the originators, he's a quality programmer)
[05:46] <owen1> nikrud: if i delete a folder from my home, and inside there is an installed app. what can happend?
[05:46] <Odd-rationale> sphinxx: please use the pastebin. see the /topic
[05:47] <owen1> nikrud: i want to clean my home..
[05:47] <nikrud> owen1 hm. you compiled it there? If it doesn't do an install, the program will disappear.  That is, if there was no make install command run
[05:47] <Odd-rationale> what man pages should I read to learn how to connect to a wireless network from the command line?
[05:48] <owen1> nikrud: ok
[05:48] <sphinxx> cause i thought there was some weird this, maybe this outdated, but if linux wasnt installed on the first 8.5gb it would mess up
[05:48] <sphinxx> cause of the BIOS
[05:48] <travisat> Odd-rationale: interfaces
[05:48] <sphinxx> so if installed xp first it would take up the first 14gb
[05:48] <travisat> Odd-rationale: and iwconfig
[05:48] <nikrud> sphinxx old news. I have mine after a 50gb vista
[05:48] <Steven1> Everytime I run 'emerald --replace' It fixes the menubars on my windows. But then when I close the Terminal window it fails again. How do I fix it permanently?
[05:48] <sphinxx> man im such a newbie
[05:48] <Odd-rationale> travisat: ok thanks! any more?
[05:49] <nikrud> Steven1 run it with   alt-f2 emerald --replace .
[05:49] <travisat> Odd-rationale: make sure you have the right packages installed
[05:49] <sphinxx> so the only reason for installing xp first is so that i would be able to see linux drives in windows?
[05:49] <Odd-rationale> Steven1: run it in a run dialog instead of terminal
[05:49] <travisat> Odd-rationale: basically you get your wireless to show up under iwconfig and ifconfig then edit /etc/network/interfaces to get it to work
[05:49] <Steven1> Odd-rationale: What do you mean run dialog? Isn't that terminal?
[05:49] <Odd-rationale> Steven1: alt+f2
[05:49] <nikrud> sphinxx mainly so that when you install windows, it doesn't overwrite the part of grub that's written to the mbr and prevent you from booting linux. If you do linux second, it'll automatically add windows to the boot menu
[05:50] <Steven1> Alt+F2 does nothing.
[05:50] <Odd-rationale> travisat: then /etc/init.d/networking start ?
[05:50] <cchild> how do i shred or wipe a linux part by writing 1/0 to it?
[05:50] <travisat> Odd-rationale: I have done wireless for a while but if you look for slightly older debian how-tos they work for ubuntu
[05:50] <wangdaoyu> hello
[05:50] <travisat> Odd-rationale: haven't I mean
[05:50] <cchild> how do i shred or wipe a linux partition by writing 1/0 to it?
[05:50] <eshaase> whats the most thorough way to scan my hard disk for errors?
[05:50] <nikrud> cchild install wipe
[05:51] <sphinxx> oh ok, is there a certain way I configure grub- does it come with the ubuntu cd or is it something separate
[05:51] <nikrud> sphinxx it will be the very last thing installed during the ubuntu install
[05:51] <cchild> nikrud; linux native?
[05:51] <Steven1> Alt+F2 doesn't open anything.
[05:51] <orbisvicis> cchild, cat /dev/zero
[05:51] <nikrud> cchild yes, sudo apt-get install wipe
[05:51] <Odd-rationale> travisat: how do I make ther changes to the /etc/networks/interfaces file take effect?
[05:51] <nikrud> Steven1 you using compiz?
[05:51] <Steven1> Ok I got it now
[05:52] <travisat> Odd-rationale: ifdown [networkinterface like eth0 or wlan0], then ifup [thesame]
[05:52] <Steven1> nikrud: Yes...trying to make it look like Mac OSX.
[05:52] <cchild> nikrud, this will write 1 and 0 to the drive
[05:52] <JanPeter> hey quick question, how do you clean out files from the bin that are under root permissions?
[05:52] <nikrud> sphinxx I prefer to stay in #ubuntu, better to have people watch and catch errors
[05:52] <Odd-rationale> travisat: oh ok. Thanks!
[05:52] <sphinxx> no problem
[05:52] <sphinxx> you are being very helpful
[05:52] <nikrud> JanPeter in /bin ? You do not want to delete those
[05:52] <JanPeter> i meant in the recycling bin
[05:52] <JanPeter> sorry
[05:52] <travisat> Odd-rationale: you can man those to I think to learn them,  in your interfaces file if you set the network interface as auto it will connect when you reboot
[05:53] <sphinxx> nikrud im just hoping you can guide me in case i hit any errors, im installing windows xp right now
[05:53] <nikrud> JanPeter ah,  sudo rm ~/.Trash will get rid of them.
[05:53] <prohna> attempting to upgrade to hardy alot going wrong about 1 hour in
[05:53] <JanPeter> cool, thanks
[05:53] <Odd-rationale> travisat: ok thanks!
[05:53] <cchild> orbisvicis, the drive is dying and i just got the replacement and need to return the defected. so I want to wipe it clean
[05:53] <nikrud> sphinxx it's really simple. Install windows, then boot the livecd and tell it to use the remainder of the disk ;)
[05:53] <sphinxx> when i was running the ubuntu live cd, i did get this 'I/O Buffer error device fdo" or something like that
[05:54] <nikrud> JanPeter stop!
[05:54] <sphinxx> someone told me to disable the floppy in the bios, but the bios on this laptop is really simple, there is not that option, nor is there a floppy on the laptop
[05:54] <nikrud> JanPeter   sudo rm ~/.Trash/*  , we want to remove the stuff in the trash ;)
[05:55] <sk8ball> question, when i hit "shutdown" option on the low graphics mode when X starts with a config/driver it cant use it drops me into a root console prompt
[05:55] <travisat> why with the sudo?
[05:55] <sk8ball> is this normal?
[05:55] <nikrud> sphinxx it's a bug. see alt-f4 for options to add to the boot, all_generic_ide fixes that if my memory is right
[05:55] <sk8ball> i thought the ~root# account is supposed to be inaccessible
[05:55] <sk8ball> in ubuntu
[05:55] <Smegzor> I think I've messed up the permissions in my /home.  Could someone paste up the recursive chown command line I need to restore my home dir permissions?
[05:55] <Tamale> how can i remove all references to a particular cursor set?  I keep seeing the default cursors and i don't want to!
[05:55] <MTeck> Anybody bored? I'm having troubles running 'fsck.ext3 /dev/sdb1' "Buffer I/O error on device sdb1, logigal block 0    fsck.ext3: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sdb1     Could this be a zero-length partition?
[05:55] <Odd-rationale> travisat: so currently becuase my wireless device is managed by networkmanager, my interfaces file only contains lo. Correct?
[05:55] <orbisvicis> cchild, just for completeness' sake dd using /dev/zero will write zeros. But you should do it more than once
[05:55] <nikrud> travisat the cleaning of the trash? he has root owned files in there (from messing with sudo nautilus I'd bet)
[05:56] <travisat> Odd-rationale: I have no idea
[05:56] <travisat> nikrud: ah
[05:56] <sk8ball> is there supposed to be anyway to get to an actual root# prompt/console under ubuntu?
[05:56] <travisat> Odd-rationale: I don't use the gui stuff for network as I like the conf files better
[05:56] <nikrud> Odd-rationale yes
[05:56] <Steven1> Ok the next step is to make a launcher for Pidgin and I don't know where it's located.
[05:56] <travisat> Steven1: /usr/bin/pidgin ?
[05:56] <nikrud> Steven1 you can find where a program is with   which ,  like   which pidgin
[05:57] <Odd-rationale> nikrud, travisat: ok thanks again
[05:57] <sphinxx> nikrud is there any site you can recommend i look at for learning how to do stuff in ubuntu, like i dont know much about the terminal commands and stuff like that
[05:57] <cchild> so use the following command "dd /dev/sdb" ?
[05:57] <cchild> orbisvicis,  "dd /dev/sdb" ?
[05:57] <Odd-rationale> sphinxx: www.linuxcommand.org
[05:57] <Steven1> That's odd. I created it and it didn't show up.
[05:57] <orbisvicis> cchild, i do not recommend 'fooling' around with dd
[05:58] <travisat> chii: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb
[05:58] <Steven1> Anyone know how to use the AWN Dock?
[05:58] <nikrud> sphinxx https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal  and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training
[05:58] <sk8ball> is there supposed to be anyway to get to an actual root# prompt/console under ubuntu?????
[05:58] <Odd-rationale> sk8ball: sudo -i
[05:58] <travisat> cchild: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb   I recommend /dev/urandom instead of 0
[05:59] <nikrud> sphinxx and that linuxcommand.org that Odd-rationale mentioned looks good, I hadn't seen that one yet
[05:59] <orbisvicis> travisat, good call on urandom
[05:59] <Rob125> anyone have a novel suggestion as to how to speed up gnome?
[05:59] <Flannel> travisat, nikrud, orbisvicis: shred is built-in.
[05:59] <Odd-rationale> Rob125: swicth to xfce :)
[05:59] <nikrud> Flannel ah, thanks
[05:59] <sk8ball> Odd, w/o putting in any password??
[05:59] <travisat> Flannel: hehe shred
[05:59] <Rob125> Odd-rationale: thought about it, definitely.
[06:00] <orbisvicis> Flannel, oh
[06:00] <Odd-rationale> sk8ball: boot into recovery mode
[06:00] <orbisvicis> heh cat /dev/urandom
[06:00] <Odd-rationale> Rob125: It is a good choice, btw
[06:00] <Rob125> Odd-rationale: I've run it several times before, but I'm admittedly a bit of a Gnome junkie.
[06:01] <Odd-rationale> Rob125: If you use gnome, you get the gnome speed... period. :P
[06:01] <Rob125> I don't run compiz, mostly because this computer can't handle it, but I'm naming my first child Gnomebert.
[06:01] <sphinxx> nik, i'm in the xp setup now, doing the partitions, should I just make the partitions for the /root and /home and swap now?
[06:01] <Kcaj2> Hello friends
[06:01] <travisat> sphinxx: nah
[06:01] <Rob125> Odd-rationale: True, I suppose
[06:01] <sphinxx> just to set up the space
[06:01] <sphinxx> this is how i want to do i think
[06:01] <nikrud> sphinxx see travisat
[06:01] <Flannel> cchild: shred works too, and is already installed (and will automatically iterate through it however many times you want, including random, etc)
[06:01] <Kcaj2> I was wondering if there is any kind of way to utilize multiple network connections at the same time? For instance, if you have access to multiple ISPs and the network adapters to connect to them both simltaneously
[06:01] <travisat> sphinxx: just leave enough empty space for linux and let the ubuntu installer guide to free space
[06:01] <sphinxx> ok
[06:01] <sphinxx> :)
[06:01] <Positronic> Does anyone know the link to the website that automatically rebuilds your repositories?
[06:01] <Kcaj2> Is there a way to harness BOTH connections? (or Three, for that matter0
[06:02] <Flannel> Positronic: It's not up anymore, you can do the same thing via Software Sources
[06:02] <nikrud> sphinxx see travisat again. Like I said, you're not really using enough space to make a separate / and /home cost effective
[06:02] <sphinxx> does anyone know this- the only difference between NTFS format and NTFS format (quick) is that quick doesn check the disk for errors
[06:02] <Steven1> How do you move a whole directory? What's the format?
[06:02] <Positronic> Flannel: any recommended Software sources?
[06:02] <Flannel> Positronic: the official ones
[06:02] <travisat> sphinxx: its more different then that but that is a difference
[06:03] <sphinxx> i did quick just cause i don't want to wait
[06:03] <Smegzor> oops!  I meant chmod.  What do I enter to chmod my /home/smegzor folder back to what it was set at when it was created?
[06:03] <Positronic> thanks
[06:03] <cchild> shred vs wipe vs dd ?
[06:03] <Positronic> Flannel, thanks
[06:03] <travisat> sphinxx: you normally don't need to do more then quick, although it is suggested for a new hard drive to do a full format
[06:03] <amenado> Kcaj2-> yes its possible with the use of iptables and iproute2 tools, look into route policy via google
[06:03] <sphinxx> I believe i did a full one on this drive before, so i just did quick now:)
[06:03] <nikrud> Smegzor   grep 1000 /etc/passwd, find the user name on that line. then   sudo chown -R <username>:<username> /home/smegzor
[06:03] <Steven1> What is the correct syntax/commands to move a folder to another folder and overwrite what's there?
[06:04] <Smegzor> ok
[06:04] <pat5star> is there someway to reload the kicker (isn't that what you call the panel that runs across the bottom of the screen?)?
[06:04] <pat5star> after sometime, mine starts to act up
[06:04] <orbisvicis> Smegzor, the general idea is chown user:user -R ~/; chmod -R 755 ~/ but there are some special files with different permissions
[06:04] <travisat> Steven1: mv
[06:04] <Steven1> travisat: Thanks
[06:04] <sphinxx> if I have 512mb ram should my swap be 1024mb or 768mb?
[06:04] <amenado> Steven1-> they  use mv ... try with sample directories you can create..
[06:04] <Positronic> Flannel, how would I find a repository URL for XGL it appears the current one I have is no longer accessible?
[06:04] <Flannel> sphinxx: 1024
[06:04] <nikrud> sphinxx 1024
[06:05] <Smegzor> orbisvicis: do I need to run both of those commands?
[06:05] <Flannel> Positronic: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[06:05] <Steven1> travisat: It says 'unable to remove target: Is a directory'
[06:05] <amenado> sphinxx-> hard disk memory for swap is so cheap..
[06:05] <Positronic> 7.10
[06:05] <Odd-rationale> So if I had 4gb of ram I should have 8gb of swap?
[06:05] <Positronic> Flannel, 7.10
[06:05] <travisat> Steven1: mv -r
[06:05] <nikrud> Smegzor you probably shouldn't, there are a few things that will break if you set them to 755
[06:05] <Odd-rationale> 4gb of swap seems to be the max for me...
[06:05] <cchild> which is best for wiping a disk, shred vs wipw vs dd?
[06:05] <Flannel> Positronic: Gutsy already does that sort of stuff, you don't need third party repos for it
[06:06] <sphinxx> isnt swap only used when theres absolute no RAM left?
[06:06] <sphinxx> and how often does that actulaly happen
[06:06] <Smegzor> no sh*t? :)  I've already broken them
[06:06] <nikrud> sphinxx not quite.
[06:06] <Rob125> travisat: mv -r shouldn't work, no? just plain mv should suffice...
[06:06] <Steven1> travisat: 'mv: invalid options -- r'
[06:06] <orbisvicis> chown -R user:user mybad
[06:06] <travisat> Rob125: lol you are right
[06:06] <cchild> i meant wipe
[06:06] <tarelerulz> I have been looking for hours and maybe days I have yet to see any client that use Jingle voice . Kopete does ,but I can get to compile . Jabbin and could not get to even connect . Everything is old . Nothing for 2008 .  Is there any client that can talk to gtalk's voice
[06:06] <sphinxx> you guys have answer questions that would have probably taken me the whole day to find out on forums:)
[06:06] <travisat> Steven1: sorry mv should of done it
[06:06] <nikrud> sphinxx it swaps out unused stuff to make room for stuff that is used. It's smarter than just waiting till ram is full
[06:06] <Positronic> Flannel, when I installed 7.10 I needed to do it to get hardware acceleration to work, otherwise I had mesa
[06:07] <sizzle> where should i go to find some php scripts
[06:07] <amenado> Odd-rationale-> umm on a 32bit system, you barely could even achieve 3gig from what I understood..the last 1gig is somehow not easily achievable..
[06:07] <Flannel> cchild: dd isn't.  shred is already installed, if you've installed wipe, then I guess they're both already installed.  I've never actually used wipe.
[06:07] <travisat> Steven1: what exactly are you trying to do
[06:07] <Flannel> Positronic: That doesn't mean it's not in the repositories, just that it isn't enabled for everyone by default
[06:07] <nikrud> I always installed wipe, never knew shred even existed
[06:07] <Odd-rationale> amenado: i guess that's true...
[06:07] <Steven1> travisat: I'm moving a replacement 'Pidgin' into the old ones spot.
[06:07] <travisat> Steven1: are you trying to keep any part of the old one?
[06:07] <Smegzor> nikrud: Is there a number other than 755 I should use or will things break regardless of the number used?
[06:08] <Steven1> travisat: I'm just skinning it I believe.
[06:08] <cchild> Flannel, can shred over write an entire disk?
[06:08] <sphinxx> cant wait to get this double boot set up:)
[06:08] <Flannel> cchild: yes
[06:08] <travisat> Steven1: the use cp and delete from the original
[06:08] <nikrud> Smegzor well, off the top of my head you definitely need ~/.dmrc as 600
[06:08] <Steven1> travisat: It's the Pidgin in the pixmaps folder.
[06:08] <Flannel> cchild: and over individual files as well
[06:08] <sphinxx> I was also reading about making separate partitions for /tmp and such, does this actually speed things up?
[06:08] <travisat> Steven1: are you using sudo if its in /usr/share?
[06:09] <sphinxx> like i know on windows there is fragmentation but so there is a benefit, but linux there is none ?
[06:09] <nikrud> Smegzor and looking there  .Xauthority needs 600 as well
[06:09] <Smegzor> hmm..  I have other users that I haven't been foolish enough to mess with, I could look at the permissions there.  Is there some way to see the permissions of each directory using ls ?
[06:09] <Positronic> Flannel, I guess what I am saying is I get an error when doing the update manager stating that the XGL repository might no longer be available as it was unable to download the index for it?
[06:09] <cchild> flannel, "shred /dev/sda -n 8" would this work?
[06:09] <Steven1> travisat: Yes tried to use 'sudo cp pidgin' and 'sudo mv pidgin'
[06:09] <Rob125> Smegzor: if you're running MySQL, you should make sure you also chmod 600 your .mysql_history
[06:09] <Positronic> Flannel, you must forgive me as I am somewhat new to the linux environment as well
[06:10] <orbisvicis> 2³² = 4GB so obviously the max; so why is the cap slightly under 4Gb ?
[06:10] <nikrud> Smegzor and another you'd probably want 600 is .dbus-keyrings
[06:10] <Flannel> cchild: arguments go in between shred and the thing to shred, but yes.  shred -n 8 /dev/sda
[06:10] <travisat> Steven1: ok I am confused are you trying to replace a directory or a single file
[06:10] <Steven1> travisat: sudo cp pidgin gives this: 'cp: omitting directory 'pidgin' '
[06:10] <tarelerulz> any one use gtalk voice chat at all on Linux ?
[06:10] <Smegzor> what about my idea of listing directories permissions?  Is that possible>
[06:10] <travisat> Steven1: ok for cp use cp -r
[06:10] <Flannel> Positronic: Just remove it entirely, Ubuntu deprecates the need for third party repos for eyecandy
[06:11] <Steven1> travisat: The whole usr/share/pixmaps/pidgin folder.
[06:11] <Flannel> Positronic: er, newer versions, that is.
[06:11] <FY1> what is the program that tracks input/output. It starts with like x or z... It will tell you the key that was pressed, mouse button, input from a controller or something
[06:11] <Rob125> Smegzor: yeah, you can do an ls -al
[06:11] <Smegzor> thanks :D
[06:11] <Odd-rationale> travisat: I was reading through man interfaces. But how do I select a network essid and where do I put the wpa password?
[06:11] <cchild> flannel, shred -z- u -n 8 /dev/sda is what am thinking
[06:11] <Rob125> Smegzor: if they're big, don't forget to pipe it to less :)
[06:11] <cchild> flannel, shred -z -u -n 8 /dev/sda is
[06:11] <amenado> orbisvicis-> http://dansdata.com/askdan00015.htm
[06:11] <travisat> Steven1: in the /etc/network/interfaces,  I suggest you google for debian wireless setup or something like that
[06:11] <Steven1> travisat: Ok cp -r worked.
[06:12] <Flannel> cchild: you don't use the -u on drives, that would be for a 'file' file
[06:12] <amenado> FY1 xev
[06:12] <Positronic> Flannel, was that recently an update for ubuntu within the last few months? So you dont have to install ATI drivers and set parameters for hardware acceleration manually anymore?
[06:12] <Steven1> travisat: Uh no. usr/share/pixmaps/
[06:12] <Odd-rationale> travisat: was that meant for me or Steven1?
[06:12] <travisat> Odd-rationale: lol you
[06:12] <cchild> flannel, thanks for your help
[06:12] <Odd-rationale> travisat: lol ok
[06:12] <travisat> Steven1: is everything all right now?
[06:13] <ddalton> Hi im blind so can't follow this. Can you please join ##ddalton? anyway how do I connect to my wiless network with my wiless card? I believe ubuntu recognises it.
[06:13] <Flannel> Positronic: ATI drivers don't give you XGL.  I have no idea with regards to the current driver situation,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[06:13] <Smegzor> how do I list my command history showing only chmod commands I've entered?  My history is HUGE.
[06:13] <Smegzor> I want to see my original chmod line that caused all the mess.
[06:14] <orbisvicis> Smegzor, cat ~/.bash_history | grep
[06:14] <cchild> flannel, I have one more question: what is "--random-source" and the -s --size for?
[06:14] <nikrud> Smegzor grep chmod ~/.bash_history
[06:14] <Flannel> Smegzor: cat ~/.bash_history | grep chmod | less
[06:14] <orbisvicis> Smegzor, it might also be in /root/.bash_history
[06:14] <Positronic> Flannel, oh ok sorry I must have been confusing that with fglrx or something...
[06:14] <Smegzor> thanks
[06:14] <nikrud> cat to grep?  ewww :)
[06:15] <orbisvicis> nikrud, bad habit ; )
[06:15] <troxor> for all the users of ntop out there: where did the "-S" option go in recent (>2.0) versions of ntop? is there a similar option that google isn't telling me about?
[06:15] <Rob125> nikrud: whoa, hold on. please explain? why bad?
[06:15] <Smegzor> here it is!  chmod 0700 /home/smegzor   (is that bad?)
[06:15] <sphinxx> is having a 5gb /home and a 9gb /root not good?
[06:15] <nikrud> Rob125 it's an aesthetic thing :)
[06:15] <orbisvicis> way back in the days when i used rpm-websites to install xine: library by .so file ; )
[06:15] <nikrud> Smegzor no, that's not terribly bad
[06:15] <Rob125> nikrud: how would you do it, then?
[06:15] <nikrud> Rob125   grep chmod ~/.bash_history
[06:16] <Rob125> Smegzor, you should be able to fix that pretty easy, since you didn't do it recursively
[06:16] <Rob125> ahh
[06:16] <Flannel> cchild: I don't see a --random-source on mine, but it probably is a place where you can provide the source of the random data, incase you wanted to use something more random.  And --size is not useful in this situation either, but its allowing you to overwrite an arbitrarily sized chunk
[06:16] <Smegzor> yeah I wasn't sure about that..  so just do the same with 755 ?
[06:17] <cchild> Ok Flannel, thanks again
[06:17] <nikrud> Smegzor 700 is not something that will break your system, it only prevents users other than yourself reading what's in there. Some people do that on principle
[06:17] <picharras> hola que tal
[06:17] <Smegzor> thats why I did it in the first place.  But then I noticed broken stuff in gnome
[06:17] <picharras> alguien habla español por aca?
[06:17] <Flannel> picharras: /join #ubuntu-es
[06:18] <Smegzor> probably just my timing, noticing things after doing that.
[06:18] <travisat> I prefer to only have files I want to execute with the 7 chmod
[06:18] <nikrud> Smegzor hm. Maybe there's something new that I'm missing. I haven't done that in a few years.
[06:18] <Steven1> travisat: Ok I am now trying to do the sounds folder now and when I move the folder into /usr/share/sounds/ The folder is empty! What gives?
[06:18] <aoshi> How does updating to a new version of ubuntu work?
[06:19] <travisat> Steven1: when you mv directories the old directory dissappears, cp leaves old files in place...at least this is what I remember
[06:19] <Rob125> Aoshi: It works marvelously -- but how do you mean? Do you need to know how to do it? What version are you using, and what do you want to upgrade to?
[06:20] <aoshi> 7.10
[06:20] <Steven1> travisat: But when I use mv. It says unable to remove target: Is a directory.
[06:20] <nikrud> aoshi when a release is made, you will be asked if you want to upgrade to it. You can force  a check  with   sudo update-manager -c
[06:20] <travisat> Steven1: ok and when you cp -r the /usr/share/sounds folder was empty correct?
[06:20] <aoshi> Ah
[06:21] <Steven1> travisat: The destination folder was empty yes.
[06:21] <aoshi> so in 23 days
[06:21] <nikrud> :)
[06:21] <aoshi> how do I go about updating to 8.04?
[06:21] <travisat> Steven1: you have no files in /usr/share/sounds or in /usr/share/sounds/pidgin?
[06:21] <coldboot> Why is this not in gutsy?: libgtkglextmm1-dev not in gutsy? http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=names&keywords=libgtkglextmm1-dev
[06:21] <Trey> hey is anyone able to help me with a boot issue
[06:21] <Steven1> Such a headache. Why don't they just make it like Windows and let you just drag and drop it?
[06:21] <Rob125> Aoshi -- when you run update manager, it'll say 'A new distribution is available. Upgrade?'
[06:21] <aoshi> Okay
[06:21] <nikrud> aoshi now? Know how to fix broken packages? If the answer is yes, ask how on #ubuntu+1
[06:21] <aoshi> Cool :D
[06:22] <orbisvicis> aoshi, ever so carefully: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[06:22] <Trey> guys i can't to to my ubuntu logon screen
[06:22] <Rob125> Can't see it, trey?
[06:23] <Trey> ya
[06:23] <orbisvicis> Trey, why ?
[06:23] <Trey> the screen just turns off
[06:23] <nikrud> heh. If Trey knew why, he wouldn't be here asking :)
[06:23] <Trey> i have be trying some fixes from the forms but no luck
[06:23] <Trey> lol
[06:23] <orbisvicis> no but he should provide more info ; )
[06:23] <owen1> what folders should i keep for a backup?
[06:23] <Trey> i know its got to do with my video and the splash thats all
[06:23] <Rob125> Trey: by 'turns off', do you mean it flickers and then goes to the terminal? What are your symptoms? :)
[06:24] <nikrud> owen1 /home , /etc , and the output of  dpkg --get-selections at the minimum
[06:24] <Trey> its a laptop monitor and it literaly turns off the screen the comp stays on but nothing happens on screen
[06:24] <owen1> nikrud: you are my personal ubuntu admin..thank
[06:24] <Steven1> travisat: Did you get my IM?
[06:25] <Trey> i tried reconfiguring the xserver no luck
[06:25] <Rob125> nikrud: Man, I need to have a long conversation with you and suck the knowledge out of your brain. Why /etc?
[06:25] <JDSBlueDevl> hi, I'm having problems with encrypted DVD playback.  I have done literally EVERYTHING to try to get it to work
[06:25] <JDSBlueDevl> I'm using Gutsy, and yes, I have the medibuntu repos in my sources.list file
[06:25] <travisat> Steven1: negative
[06:25] <nikrud> owen1 you're welcome. To be honest it's nice to have someone who only needs to ask a few questions, and fills in the blanks :)
[06:25] <nikrud> Rob125 well, I usually make some custom changes there, so I back up the whole thing on principle
[06:25] <Steven1> travisat: I sent another one
[06:26] <travisat> Steven1: in irc or pidgin
[06:26] <Steven1> travisat: pidgin on this room.
[06:26] <travisat> Steven1: if pidgin you are sending to somebody else
[06:26] <Trey> i also can't use ctrl alt f1 it dose nothing
[06:26] <Steven1> travisat: I clicked on your name and clicked IM.
[06:27] <coldboot> Does anyone know why libgtkglextmm1-dev is not in gutsy/
[06:27] <tchaska> Anybody knows a program to show the statistics of internet connection only? (exclude the local network traffic)
[06:27] <travisat> Steven1: hehe well I have no im, you have to /msg me in irc,  and I am about to go to sleep.  I think that you don't have to install themes in /usr but you can do it in your home directory.  I am sure somebody else can help you
[06:27] <davi1> hello good people
[06:27] <Steven1> travisat: What I said was (10:22:46 PM) Steven1: No no no. I'm done with the Pidgin. I'm trying to move the MacOSX_Sounds to /usr/share/sounds
[06:28] <Steven1> Damn
[06:28] <nikrud> coldboot do you have the universe repositories enabled? It's there in mine (hardy, but still)
[06:28] <Steven1> So can someone tell me how to move the sounds off my Desktop and into usr/share/sounds ?
[06:29] <nikrud> Steven1   sudo mv ~/Desktop/<file> /usr/share/sounds
[06:29] <davi1> hi there, im new to linux and i just installed ubuntu but my audio is not working, any ideas?
[06:29] <nikrud> Steven1 to write to anywhere outside of /home/<username> you need admin privileges, sudo gives those
[06:29] <Erickj92> i just installed the dancer-ircd doc, buy dont know there they are isntalled to
[06:30] <owen1> nikrud: and on my fresh ubuntu i can paste all the folders and i am done?
[06:30] <nikrud> Erickj92 /usr/share/doc/<packagename>
[06:30] <Odd-rationale> Steven1: Are you going through that cam4lin tutorial?
[06:30] <Erickj92> ok, thank you
[06:30] <Odd-rationale> *mac4lin
[06:30] <nikrud> owen1 erm, the stuff out of your home? yes
[06:31] <owen1> nikrud: and what do i do with etc and the output of dgkg?
[06:31] <Steven1> nikrud: It still failed. Says It's a directory. Not sheet!
[06:31] <Trey> ok i have some more info
[06:32] <nikrud> owen1 the /etc you might not need to do anything with, unless you know what you changed there.   for the --get-selections, you'd run:    dpkg --set-selections < packagelist && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade to restore your package installs.
[06:32] <nikrud> Steven1 what exact command line did you use?
[06:33] <nikrud> owen1 dpkg --get-selections > packagelist creates that list for you
[06:33] <Steven1> nikrud: sudo mv ~/Desktop/Mac4Lin_v0.4/Sounds/MacOSX_Sounds /usr/share/sounds
[06:34] <davi1> any1 have an idea on how to get my audio working?
[06:34] <owen1> nikrud: so packagelist is a file i create in my old machine, and i import this file to my new machine with the < ?
[06:34] <Trey> ok i did sudo lspci | grep VGA and got 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corperation GeForce 8600M GS (rev a1)
[06:35] <nikrud> owen1 exactly.
[06:35] <Trey> then i did grep -i driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf and got the list with a bunch of drivers
[06:35] <JDSBlueDevl> hi, I'm having problems with encrypted DVD playback.  I have done literally EVERYTHING to try to get it to work.  I'm using Gutsy, and yes, I have the medibuntu repos in my sources.list file
[06:35] <Trey> that help at all
[06:36] <nikrud> Steven1 that should work, moving MacOSX_Sounds to /usr/share/sounds . I was sure, and did it with a couple test dirs just now
[06:36] <Stroganoff> JDSBlueDevl, you have libdvdcss2 installed? :D
[06:36] <owen1> nikrud: ubuntu is like Mac, but awesome.
[06:36] <Odd-rationale> JDSBlueDevl: what media player are you using?
[06:36] <ethan961> !dvd | JDSBlueDevil
[06:37] <JDSBlueDevl> yes
[06:37] <JDSBlueDevl> Totem
[06:37] <ethan961> !DVD
[06:37] <Steven1> nikrud: Ok saw your response.
[06:37] <robm> Hello, I recently added a new harddrive (formated ext3) and made a new folder that I shared on samba. However previous shares that I had are not visible from windows machines anymore. Additionally, this new share slows down the windows clients and I never had problems until I mounted this new hd and created the share
[06:37] <Henry> what's the linux kernal?
[06:37] <bazhang> JDSBlueDevl: hd-dvd or blu-ray
[06:37] <JDSBlueDevl> regular DVD
[06:37] <Odd-rationale> JDSBlueDevl: totem-gstreamer or totem-xine?
[06:37] <JDSBlueDevl> totem-xine
[06:37] <Steven1> nikrud: mv: cannot stat `/home/steven/Desktop/Mac4Lin_v0.4/Sounds/MacOSX_Sounds': No such file or directory
[06:38] <Henry> need help what's the linux kernal?
[06:38] <nikrud> Steven1 ok, it's saying there's an error in that line. Try cd ~/home/steven/Desktop/Mac4Lin_v0.4 /Sounds , do you get there?
[06:38] <Gumby> Steven1: then perhaps that directory doesnt exist?
[06:38] <nikrud> Steven1 without the space in the line
[06:39] <bazhang> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel Henry
[06:39] <owen1> what is virtual hard disk (in virtualbox setup)?
[06:39] <Steven1> nikrud: Good idea. Just about to try that.
[06:39] <nikrud> owen1 a file that acts like a partition
[06:39] <Odd-rationale> Henry: every OS needs a kernel. the Linux kernel is a kernel deveolped by Linus Torvalds and is open source.
[06:40] <Henry> ok thanks
[06:40] <Trey> is my issue not interesting enough for you guys
[06:40] <owen1> nikrud: should i create new one? (first time using virtualbox)
[06:40] <bazhang> Trey: what is your issue
[06:40] <Trey> I can't get ubuntu to boot graphicly
[06:41] <nikrud> owen1 go thru the virtualbox installation instructions. And yes, if you don't have a virtual disk you won't have anywhere to install the virtual os to  :)
[06:41] <Odd-rationale> Trey: Livecd?
[06:41] <bazhang> Trey: did you add acpi=off as a boot parameter
[06:41] <owen1> nikrud: and why would someone use existing one. it will override the content with new os, right?
[06:41] <Trey> no install but cd wouldn't work either
[06:41] <nikrud> Trey It is, but I'm not good with those. bazhang is a master
[06:41] <nikrud> owen1 yes, just like any install would
[06:41] <Odd-rationale> Trey: have you tried configurin your xserver to use the vesa drivers?
[06:41] <Steven1> Since I can just point my sounds to anywhere. Do I really have to move my sounds to usr/share/sounds?
[06:41] <owen1> nikrud: ok. thanks again..
[06:41] <Trey> not yet baz
[06:41] <Odd-rationale> Steven1: no
[06:42] <Trey> yes odd
[06:42] <Steven1> Odd-rationale: Ah thanks.
[06:42] <nikrud> Steven1 no, anywhere you like. ~/.sounds is a reasonable place
[06:42] <bazhang> Trey: what about the alternate cd? have you given that a shot--it sometimes works when the livecd chokes and allows you to install the drivers at the finish of installation
[06:43] <Steven1> Wow that could have helped sooner. Lol
[06:43] <Trey> no but i will try that too
[06:43]  * nikrud thinks that bazhang is shaking a virtual fist at him
[06:43] <Odd-rationale> Steven1: here's a dirty trick that is not really adviseable. in terminal do "gksudo nautilus" and move your file normally. But be careful!
[06:43] <Trey> um which one do i add acpi to
[06:43] <Trey> the root or the kernal
[06:43] <bazhang> me give nikrud his missing 'c' ;]
[06:43] <Steven1> gksudo nautilus
[06:43] <Steven1> I don't think I have that
[06:44] <arvind_> can apt-get made be read a list of sources from a file???
[06:44] <Odd-rationale> Steven1: you don't have nautilus?
[06:44] <Steven1> Ah ok I got it.
[06:44] <nikrud> I'm on a weight loss program. I figured a little virtual weight loss couldn't hurt
[06:44] <Steven1> Thought it was something that came with KDE
[06:44] <Rob125> Stupid question: Difference between gksu and gksudo?
[06:44] <crdlb> Rob125: none
[06:44] <Odd-rationale> Rob125: same
[06:44] <Trey> bazhang: where do i add the acpi root or kernal
[06:44] <Rob125> thanks.
[06:44] <crdlb> one is a symlink to the other
[06:44] <nikrud> Rob125 nothing anymore, gksduo is a link to gksu
[06:44] <robm> Hello, I recently added a new harddrive (formated ext3) and made a new folder that I shared on samba. However previous shares that I had are not visible from windows machines anymore. Additionally, this new share slows down the windows clients and I never had sharring or connection problems until I mounted this new hd and created the share. If I unshare this new folder, I still can't see the old shares from windows.
[06:44] <bazhang> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/gutsy/release/ Trey here is the link for the alternate
[06:45] <Odd-rationale> Steven1: are you using kde or gnome?
[06:45] <nikrud> bazhang  releases.ubuntu.com/7.10 is easier to type ;)
[06:45] <bazhang> hehe
[06:46] <nikrud> you know, this is actually more fun without the bot
[06:46] <arvind_> ! patience can apt-get made be read a list of sources from a file???
[06:46] <Odd-rationale> nikrud: yeah right.
[06:47] <nikrud> arvind_ no, apt-get uses /etc/apt/sources.list for that exclusively
[06:47] <ethan961> Oh, that's why the bot didn't reply
[06:47] <ethan961> D'oh
[06:47] <sphinxx> nik you still here
[06:47] <bazhang> for the acpi=off you need to get into grub and add it Trey
[06:47] <nikrud> sphinxx yup
[06:47] <sphinxx> ok i have the alternate cd in now
[06:48] <sphinxx> win xp is all installed
[06:48] <Odd-rationale> ethan961: are the ubot* run on windows machines or something?
[06:48] <nikrud> Odd-rationale it's like the old days, before ubotu existed
[06:48] <arvind_> nikrud, i didnt mean tat...i have list of sources to be downloaded ...can i direct it to to apt-get source somehow??
[06:48] <Erickj92> where is the documentation for setting up dancer-ircd and dancer-services?
[06:48] <nikrud> sphinxx ok, just boot the alternate cd, answer the questions as you go, and tell ubuntu to use the free space to install when it comes time to partition
[06:49] <sphinxx> you are a great help
[06:49] <sphinxx> ok one sec
[06:49] <nikrud> arvind_ I'm not sure I understand
[06:49] <Odd-rationale> nikrud: never was here in the "old days" I used to wonder how this guy seemed to pop in all the time and give some informative remards...
[06:49] <bazhang> http://knightlust.blogspot.com/2007/08/setting-up-dancer-ircd-in-kubuntu.html Erickj92
[06:49] <sphinxx> just put in anything for hostname?
[06:49] <Erickj92> bazhang, i used that but i still cant connect using my external IP, only my internal :(
[06:49] <nikrud> sphinxx yup. Whatever you want to name the machine. Maybe egypt ;)
[06:50] <sphinxx> i am naming it nikrud if thats ok with you :)
[06:50] <arvind_> nikrud, is there anyway of getting the dependencies through dpkg??
[06:50] <symptom> sphinxx: pick something nifty
[06:50]  * nikrud blushes
[06:50] <nikrud> arvind_ without knowing a lot more about what you are doing, I can't say.
[06:50] <Erickj92> bazhang, what could i be doing wrong that is keeping people from the outside world from connecting?
[06:51] <Erickj92> i have dont port forwarding and everything
[06:51] <Trey> who ever makes the MOTD needs to update it the copy paste thing dosn't work
[06:51] <symptom> Erickj92: is firestarter running
[06:51] <Erickj92> symptom, its disabled
[06:51] <robm2> Can someone help me with a samba issue? After intalling a new HD and sharing a folder on that drive. All my old shares are no longer visable on windows.  I've even removed the share on the new HD but the windows pcs still can't see my old shares.
[06:51] <Erickj92> i had the same prob with apache2
[06:51] <nikrud> Trey use paste.ubuntu.com
[06:51] <symptom> Erickj92: ok because it took me about 2 mons to realize that it was still enabled for me... drove me batsh*t crazy
[06:51] <Gnea> robm2: install swat and reset them up
[06:52] <Henry> who know how to write the virus
[06:52] <Henry> i want try it
[06:52] <arvind_> nikrud, ok see i lets say i want to build a package which will be having dependencies,so i want to get the dependencies at once....as i want to build this package where there is no internet
[06:52] <brent113> Quick question.  Why does the output of the network history look as such: http://officialbs.hopto.org/pic/Screenshot-System%20Monitor.png
[06:52] <Erickj92> yeah symptom, im looking at it right now, and it is stoped
[06:52] <bazhang> Trey: what copy paste thing? you might try installing pastebinit
[06:52] <bazhang> Henry not here
[06:52] <Gnea> Henry: do we look like virus writers?
[06:52] <robm2> Gnea: I'd prefer to try to fix what I already had before intsalling something new. Any suggestions before trying that?
[06:52] <ethan961> Henry, ##virus maybe?
[06:53] <Erickj92> is there any other firewall that could be running and preventing people from connecting?
[06:53] <symptom> Erickj92: I would try firing up wireshark and taking a peek
[06:53] <Gnea> robm2: swat will work on your current configuration
[06:53] <Gnea> !swat | robm2
[06:53] <Erickj92> symptom, wireshark?
[06:53] <symptom> also looking at your routers logs
[06:53] <sphinxx> ok nikrud partition disks just came up
[06:53] <sphinxx> i'm going to manual correct?
[06:53] <symptom> wireshark = ethereal
[06:53] <ethan961> Gnea, the bot isn't here
[06:53] <Gnea> ...
[06:53] <symptom> wireshark/ethereal = network protocol analyzer
[06:54] <nikrud> arvind_ ah. you can use synaptic for that. Mark the package you want, then file->generate package download list
[06:54] <Finnish> Can someone help with my NVIdia-card? I started my PC today and resolution is way too high now
[06:54] <Erickj92> symptom, will that tell me what ports are open and all that?
[06:54] <Odd-rationale> how come ubot3 works in #kubuntu?
[06:54] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, I have a new problem.  Turns out my new DVD-RW drive can read encrypted DVDs, but my old DVD-ROM can't.  Why is that?
[06:54] <Gnea> robm2: apt-get install swat, then enable it via /etc/inetd.conf (should have it set) then point your web browser to http://localhost:901 and login as admin
[06:54] <nikrud> sphinxx you still want to have separate /home ?
[06:54] <Finnish> And when I try to make it smaller/the way it was, screen goes crazy
[06:54] <symptom> it will monitor your traffic... if you want to see your ports use nmapFE
[06:54] <robm2> Gnea: since it only takes a min to install I'll try installing swat, can you help after I do?
[06:54] <symptom> and do a connect scan on localhost
[06:54] <bazhang> Finnish: how about pastebinning your xorg.conf for those here to look at
[06:54] <nikrud> sphinxx With only 14gb assigned to linux, I strongly recommend not using one.
[06:54] <Gnea> robm2: don't forget to install samba-doc if you haven't already - once you use it you will see how nice it is
[06:54] <Erickj92> symptom, the IRCD works with localhost
[06:55] <sphinxx> hmm
[06:55] <Gnea> robm2: i'll be around for a little while, gotta sleep soon
[06:55] <robm2> gnea: how can I tell, if samba doc is installed or not
[06:55] <sphinxx> i take your recommewndation as good as any
[06:55] <Gnea> robm2: dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep samba-doc
[06:55] <sphinxx> ok so if im not using /home
[06:55] <sphinxx> i still want to do manual - i like to learn thigns the hard way
[06:55] <nikrud> sphinxx one question:  you will be able to back up 4-6gb of home, when you need to reinstall because you broke your ubuntu :)
[06:55] <arvind_> nikrud, how do i say download only do not install
[06:56] <Finnish> bazhang: What's the command line for that?
[06:56] <Rolcol> How do I change the system font size on xubuntu?
[06:56] <bazhang> JDSBlueDevl: that really is a hardware issue; try contacting the manufacturer
[06:56] <symptom> Erickj92: well what exactly happens
[06:56]  * Gnea tries to figure out why acidlab isn't working with *headesk*
[06:56] <Finnish> bazhang: (Just for the xorg)
[06:57] <Erickj92> symptom, i can connect using localhost as the server, but when i use my external ip, nothing works
[06:57] <bazhang> Finnish: sudo apt-get install pastebinit then cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit
[06:57] <robm2> Gnea: looks like I have it all installed now. What next
[06:57] <Odd-rationale> sphinxx: do you see an entry like Pri/log free space?
[06:57] <Gnea> it installed... i threw up a virtualhost for apache2... included the apache.conf file... restarted apache... it *should* be there...
[06:57] <symptom> Erickj92: do you have a router?
[06:57] <sphinxx> ok nik i went to manual, i see my #1 is primary 12.6gb (c drive), #5 logical 2.6gb (D drive )
[06:57] <themime> what do i do with a .deb file?
[06:57] <nikrud> arvind_   sudo apt-get install --download-only <package-name> . the script that synaptic creates will only download, anyway
[06:57] <sphinxx> then pri/log 14.8gb free space
[06:57] <Gnea> robm2: sudo netstat -nap | grep 901
[06:57] <bazhang> themime: what deb file
[06:57] <Erickj92> symptom, yes and all port forwarding has been set up
[06:58] <Gnea> robm2: should see something like this: tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:901             0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN     5096/xinetd
[06:58] <Odd-rationale> themime: double click
[06:58] <sphinxx> so on the 14.8gb free space im setting up a partition, how should i allocate it?
[06:58] <themime> its a custom rtl8180-sa2400 driver for newer kernels
[06:58] <jaffarkelshac> i am looking for good security practises. i have the firestarter and clamav is there any other security that i need for ubuntu
[06:58] <nikrud> sphinxx that's all you have? There should be some free space?
[06:58] <robm2> yeah I see a bunch of lines
[06:58] <Finnish> http://paste.stgraber.org/2178
[06:58] <nikrud> sphinxx ah, got out of sync
[06:58] <Gnea> robm2: good. open firefox or whatever and throw it at http://localhost:901
[06:58] <sphinxx> no prob
[06:58] <bazhang> jaffarkelshac: secure passwords
[06:58] <Gnea> robm2: and just hand it root's credentials
[06:58] <sphinxx> so i should do 13.8?
[06:58] <sphinxx> and 1 for swap?
[06:58] <symptom> jaffarkelshac: encrypted filesystem
[06:58] <nikrud> sphinxx 1gb swap for your 512mb mem, the rest for /
[06:58] <themime> Odd-rationale
[06:59] <themime> Odd-rationale: er oops, i meant, what about at command line
[06:59] <symptom> jaffarkelshac: delete all web browsing logs cache and cookies when you close browser
[06:59] <nikrud> sphinxx you can do a backup of the several gigs of data you'll create in /home, right?
[06:59] <Odd-rationale> themime: dpkg -i packagename
[06:59] <themime> thanks
[06:59] <symptom> Erickj92: Im not sure what your issue could be
[06:59] <Odd-rationale> themime: sudo
[06:59] <sphinxx> i have another comptuer with a large hard drive (my deksopt which i'm on now)
[06:59] <robm2> Gnea: that doesn't load up. I'm connected to ewbmin just fine though.
[06:59] <Erickj92> symptom, when i use nmapfe to scan my external IP, no ports are open
[06:59] <symptom> Erickj92: I would just do an nmap scan andcheck out wireshark
[06:59] <sphinxx> and an external
[06:59] <Erickj92> but, ports are open on my internal IP
[06:59] <Gnea> robm2: is this a personal or production system?
[06:59] <themime> hehe yea, already got bitched at by it
[06:59] <nikrud> sphinxx then definitely, make it all one big partition
[06:59] <jaffarkelshac> Symons, encrypted file system?
[07:00] <symptom> Erickj92: well those bad boys need tobe open... especailly 80
[07:00] <robm2> Gnea: personal
[07:00] <Erickj92> symptom, they are open in my router
[07:00] <sphinxx> ok so i did a 13.8gb partition
[07:00] <sphinxx> for use as i put it as ext3?
[07:00] <Erickj92> i just dunno why their now showing open
[07:00] <Rolcol> How do I change the system font size on xubuntu?
[07:00] <iositd> Erickj92, don't bother scanning your external ip, it won't be reachable from your end.
[07:00] <sphinxx> mount point /
[07:00] <nikrud> sphinxx yes, and set it for formatting
[07:00] <iositd> symptom, ^
[07:00] <nikrud> sphinxx and yes again
[07:00] <Erickj92> well my computers IP is showing those ports open
[07:00] <symptom> yes iositd ?
[07:00] <Gnea> robm2: egads, webmin is just... evil! okay, i'll hold back anymore opinions on that... is samba running on the same computer you're on or another host?
[07:00] <iositd> symptom, read the message to Erickj92
[07:01] <sphinxx> are any of these mount options important, or just leave at defaults
[07:01] <nikrud> sphinxx no, defaults is fine
[07:01] <robm2> the computer is right next to me but im connected putty
[07:01] <symptom> iositd: oh good call
[07:01] <robm2> ssh
[07:01] <iositd> Erickj92, you computer will show them as open. Your router will show them as open. The outgoing traffic can't be routed back at you, it gets lost.
[07:01] <sphinxx> reserved blocks is at 5%
[07:01] <Gnea> robm2: oh ok, then point your web browser at that system then, giving it 901 as the port number
[07:01] <sphinxx> typical usage - standard
[07:01] <symptom> iositd: yea it needs to be bounced
[07:01] <nikrud> fine. All you need to change is ext3 , format , and  / as mount point
[07:01] <bazhang> Finnish: what is the resolution you want and what is it set to now
[07:01] <Erickj92> iositd, what does that mean? i need to do somthing more?
[07:02] <symptom> Erickj92: sorry i gotta go, good luck
[07:02] <symptom> :)
[07:02] <sphinxx> what is format i dont see that option
[07:02] <Erickj92> ok symptom, thank you
[07:02] <iositd> Erickj92, no, it's something standard. However, scanning yourself with nmap isn't going to show your ports open. I can do it for you and tell you the result.
[07:02] <iositd> symptom, afaik that's fairly though to do.
[07:02] <Erickj92> ok, so PM you my external IP?
[07:02] <robm2> Gnea: I did, unable to connect. I tried connecting using vnc and and I couldn't load http://localhost:901
[07:02] <Odd-rationale> sphinxx: if it is a new partion you may not seee the format option
[07:03] <iositd> Erickj92, yes. I'll give you the result then.
[07:03] <sphinxx> what about "bootable flag'
[07:03] <iositd> Erickj92, wait ...
[07:03] <sphinxx> its default is 'off'
[07:03] <nikrud> sphinxx probably because it needs formatting already
[07:03] <Gnea> robm2: ok. when you installed swat, did it installed anything else, like openbsd-inetd?
[07:03] <Odd-rationale> sphinxx: turn that on
[07:03] <Erickj92> hischild?
[07:03] <hischild> Erickj92, there we go. Now you can pm me =)
[07:03] <Erickj92> ok
[07:03] <bazhang> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg Finnish this command might help too
[07:04] <sphinxx> when would it be wise to set typical usage to 'largefile' instead of 'standard'
[07:04] <Gnea> robm2: btw, what version of ubuntu do you have on there?
[07:04] <robm2> Gnea: no it doesn't look like it installed anything else
[07:04] <Finnish> bazhang: It is now 1792x1344, and I wan't it to be 1024x768
[07:04] <sphinxx> like if you often transfer large files?
[07:04] <robm2> Gnea: was that supposed to be netstat -nap | grep 901  ?
[07:05] <nikrud> sphinxx big file is for things like full dvd's, if you have one you won't have much room for anything else
[07:05] <sphinxx> ah ok
[07:05] <Gnea> robm2: yes.
[07:05] <sphinxx> so if i had a huge hard drive, i could make multiple partitions, one of them specifically for large files?
[07:05] <nikrud> sphinxx exactly
[07:05] <sphinxx> ah ok
[07:05] <sphinxx> and keep reserved blocks at 5%?
[07:06] <earl> hey guys. wondering if there's any way to have evolutoin check for mail automatically
[07:06] <earl> specifically, to do so without having evolution open
[07:06] <earl> maybe a notification tray app or something?
[07:06] <Odd-rationale> earl: you can dock it with alltray
[07:06] <Gumby> install kontact/kmail and do away with evolution  :)  thats my solution
[07:06] <earl> Odd-rationale: eh?
[07:07] <Odd-rationale> earl: search synaptic for alltray
[07:07] <Trey> I made some progress
[07:07] <sphinxx> ok nikrud now i made the swap partition , 1gb
[07:07] <earl> what does it do...?
[07:07] <sphinxx> it has one option, 'bootable flag'
[07:07] <Trey> i am not sure if it works completly yet though
[07:07] <sphinxx> turn this one off or on?
[07:07] <nikrud> good to go. bootable flag is meaningless to linux
[07:07] <Finnish> bazhang: Aargh, that didn\t help
[07:07] <Odd-rationale> earl: it pus the app into the notification area.
[07:08] <sphinxx> is there a reason hard drives always leave like 7mb of free space?
[07:08] <sphinxx> is that the buffer or something?
[07:08] <Odd-rationale> earl: but yeah. I like kmail better.
[07:08] <sriramoman> in ubuntu package management, how do i check the size of the file going to be downloaded for installation?
[07:08] <earl> kmail's pretty excellent but does it integrate well with gnome?
[07:08] <bazhang> Finnish: how did you install the drivers?
[07:09] <robm2> Gnea: when I typed the netstat command, the results were several lines of
[07:09] <robm2> unix 3 [ ]  stream connected number    number/something else /
[07:09] <nikrud> sphinxx something about making sure partitions start/end on some logical spot I think
[07:09] <Odd-rationale> sphinxx: when you set up you last partion (swap) did you set it exactly to 1gb or to max to use the rest of the drive?
[07:09] <sphinxx> to 1gb
[07:09] <Finnish> bazhang: I guess these are linux drivers
[07:09] <sphinxx> was i suppoed to use max/
[07:09] <sriramoman> in ubuntu package management, how do i check the size of the file going to be downloaded for installation?
[07:10] <tarkus> i have a question: would you consider linux to be able to accomodate any basic user? some who doesnt know a single line of code?
[07:10] <nikrud> sphinxx 7mb wont matter, but you could go back and set it to max
[07:10] <bazhang> Finnish: you are using the nv and not the nvidia driver; how was that installed?
[07:10] <alan_m> sriraman, please be patient :)
[07:10] <Odd-rationale> sphinxx: do you still have a "free space" evtry?
[07:10] <sphinxx> thanks for the help you 2 especially (you know who you are), im gonna take a shower while this is installing
[07:10] <bazhang> sriramoman: check packages.ubuntu.com
[07:10] <Gnea> robm2: ignore those, there should be one that says LISTEN on it
[07:10] <Finnish> This was my first ever ubuntu install, I remember that it got sort of automaticallt
[07:10] <Finnish> Or I just selected it from the list
[07:10] <sphinxx> odd, im already in the setup, not sure, the linux partition was showing no freee space at all, but i remember when setting up windows, it has 7mb i couldnt touch
[07:11] <nikrud> sriramoman apt-cache show <packagename> | grep -i size
[07:11] <Finnish> This is Gutsy 7.10
[07:11] <carlzenox> is there a good movie maker for ubuntu?
[07:11] <bazhang> Finnish: did you use envy for this?
[07:11] <robm2> Gnea: none of them say listen  just lots of stream connected (7 lines)
[07:11] <Gnea> carlzenox: i've had some success with kino and avidemux
[07:11] <sphinxx> be back in a bit
[07:11] <Finnish> bazhang: No envy
[07:11] <Gnea> carlzenox: they are NOT microsoft movie, though :)
[07:12] <Gnea> robm2: ok then it didn't start right - do you get any results with this command: dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep inetd    ?
[07:12] <Odd-rationale> carlzenox: unfortunately, not really. there is cinerella, kino, pitivi, and kdenlive.
[07:12] <bazhang> Finnish: well how about using the restricted drivers; the nvidia ones; or you could hand edit your xorg.conf
[07:12] <nikrud> sphinxx one thing: be very patient, the installer does not have good feeback
[07:12] <bullgard4> What mechanism appends to the name of a process a / and a digit, for example 'migration/0' or 'ata/0'?
[07:12] <sriramoman> nikrud: is it not possible thru the gui itself?
[07:13] <earl> odd-rationale: do you use kmail? how well does it integrate with gnome
[07:13] <Finnish> bazhang: I've hand edited xconf before, but with assistant, so I could try it
[07:13] <bazhang> sriramoman: look in synaptic package manager sure
[07:13] <Odd-rationale> earl: i use kde anyways :P
[07:13] <nikrud> sriramoman hightlight the package, and select properties (in synaptic)
[07:13] <robm2> Gnea: -bash: pkg: command not found
[07:13] <luckylin> anyone know why it takes a couple times logging off then back on to get my menus to work with compiz fusion?
[07:13] <Gnea> robm2: dpkg  :)
[07:13] <robm2> Gnea: I copies and pasted your line exactly
[07:13] <robm2> oh hehe
[07:13] <Gnea> ;)
[07:13] <earl> damn.
[07:14] <robm2> Gnea: ii update-inetd 4.27-0.2 inetd.conf updater
[07:14] <owen1> i have winxp in a folder and i want to create iso. can i do it?
[07:14] <Odd-rationale> earl: so a real solution would be to switch to kubuntu, ;)
[07:14] <Gnea> robm2: ok, give this a shot then: apt-get install xinetd
[07:14] <bazhang> earl kde stuff works fine in gnome
[07:15] <earl> i just switched away from kubuntu
[07:15] <nikrud> Odd-rationale I knew there was a method to your nick
[07:15] <robm2> Gnea: okay done.
[07:15] <earl> i prefer kde but i think ubuntu's amenities are better, and unfortunately none of them apply to kubuntu
[07:15] <sriramoman> nikrud: is the default package manager synaptic? coz that method was not there in default manager...
[07:15] <Gnea> robm2: now check it again:   netstat -nap | grep 901 | grep LISTEN
[07:15] <Odd-rationale> nikrud: *gasps* you figured out the meaning to my nick ?!
[07:15] <bazhang> sriramoman: ubuntu has synaptic kubuntu has adept
[07:16] <nikrud> sriramoman ah, you're using add/remove.  close that, and go to  system->admin->synaptic package manager. More powerful, lists many more software packages
[07:16] <Gnea> bazhang: and they all have apt-get ;)
[07:16] <bazhang> true ;]
[07:16] <robm2> Gnea: I ran netstat -nap | grep 901 | grep LISTEN and didn't get an error or anything but I still can't load the web page
[07:16] <sriramoman> yes i am used to power.
[07:16] <luckylin> can anyone help me figure out something in compiz fusion?
[07:16] <sriramoman> i am new to ubuntu, though
[07:16] <bazhang> #compiz-fusion is best for that luckylin
[07:16] <Odd-rationale> luckylin: depends on what that something is
[07:17] <Gnea> robm2: ok, check to see if this file exists: /etc/xinetd.d/swat
[07:17] <nikrud> sriramoman   linuxcommands.org , that'll start you down the power road (courtesy of Odd-rationale)
[07:17] <luckylin> I just have a little problem restarting my computer
[07:17] <sriramoman> thank u very much
[07:17] <Trey> ok i need some new help now
[07:17] <robm2> Gnea: -bash: /etc/xinet.d/swat: No such file or directory
[07:17] <Trey> i found a back way in to the desktop
[07:17] <luckylin> when it restarts compiz fusion fails to load, and no menus come up, sometimes no desktop at all just background
[07:17] <Gnea> robm2: try this then:  dpkg-reconfigure swat
[07:17] <Rolcol> How do I change the system font size on xubuntu?
[07:17] <owen1> folder to iso     anyone?
[07:17] <sriramoman> nikrud: i used to use suse. i am new to ubuntu. i know the typical unix commands
[07:17] <bullgard4> What mechanism appends to the name of a process a / and a digit, for example 'migration/0' or 'ata/0'?
[07:18] <bazhang> luckylin: try disabling compiz alt f2 metacity --replace
[07:18] <sriramoman> as u see, package management is distro specific!
[07:18] <robm2> Gnea:  okay done
[07:18] <nikrud> sriramoman then you're going to find some stuff different, but much much better ;)
[07:18] <Gnea> robm2: see if it's there now
[07:18] <robm2> Gnea: still doesn't exist
[07:18] <nikrud> good night all
[07:18] <bazhang> night
[07:18] <luckylin> what I ended up doing was control+alt+delete and hit logout, then when I logged back in again it all works
[07:18] <Odd-rationale> nikrud: good night!
[07:19] <Finnish> bazhang: Uh, I had to restart this machine
[07:19] <robm2> Gnea: rob@Ubuntu:~# dpkg-reconfigure swat
[07:19] <robm2> --------- IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR XINETD USERS ----------
[07:19] <robm2> The following line will be added to your /etc/inetd.conf file:
[07:19] <robm2>  
[07:19] <robm2> swat\t\tstream\ttcp\tnowait.400\troot\t/usr/sbin/tcpd\t/usr/sbin/swat
[07:19] <FloodBot1> robm2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:19] <luckylin> so it does work, just not the first time
[07:19] <Gnea> d'oh!
[07:19] <sriramoman> and i am very used to having all applications in my fingertips(offline). i dont mind downloading entire repos. how do i do that in suse and implement it thru synaptic  or add/remove?
[07:19] <Henry> aww
[07:19] <luckylin> i'll go to #compiz-fusion to see if they know what it is
[07:19] <sriramoman> sorry ubuntu
[07:20] <sriramoman> slip off tongue
[07:20] <luckylin> thankyou bazhang
[07:20] <robm2> pastbin url doesn't work :(
[07:20] <Gnea> robm2: don't worry about pasting anything :)
[07:20] <alan_m> robm2, you can truly use any pastebin site, as long as you give us the link to the paste ;)
[07:20] <Gnea> robm2: what number does this command provide?  ls /etc/xinetd.d/ | wc -l
[07:20] <bazhang> http://odzangba.wordpress.com/2007/12/24/use-apt-mirror-to-create-your-own-ubuntu-mirror/ sriramoman
[07:21] <robm2> the site http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ doens' t load for m e
[07:21] <Gnea> robm2: what about http://pastebin.ca ?
[07:21] <Trey> ok i need some help from the graphics guru
[07:21] <bazhang> robm2: then install pastebinit and cat and pipe the stuff there
[07:22] <sriramoman> bazhang: is it possible to see the size of each repo?
[07:22] <robm2> Gnea http://pastebin.ca/965793
[07:22] <Gnea> yes, apparantly the EU is eperiencing some internet cabling issues right now
[07:22] <earl> so in kmail how do you get the tray to show up?
[07:22] <cableroy> hi, i have dualscreen, but when i login with my regular user it gets twin view, i tried to make a new user and loged in, and that worked good, how to fix this on my regular user?
[07:22] <Gnea> robm2: sec
[07:23] <sriramoman> and i need to download it in chunks, so i would prefer if i can resume downloads
[07:23] <Trey> how do i fix restricted drivers
[07:23] <bazhang> sriramoman: I would imagine it would be in the several gb range; cant remember at the moment
[07:23] <sriramoman> coz internet connection is free for me for 8hrs a day
[07:23] <sriramoman> (5 gb a day)
[07:24] <Gnea> robm2: put that in your /etc/xinetd.d/swat  http://pastebin.ca/965796
[07:24] <sriramoman> i would b happy enough is downloads can be resumed
[07:24] <manchicken_> sriramoman: I would say that it's fair to say that the Ubuntu repositories in their entirety are at least a TB or two.
[07:24] <manchicken_> Though I suspect more than that even.
[07:24] <bazhang> nah not that big
[07:25] <sriramoman> TB???
[07:25] <Gnea> debian's isn't even 1TB
[07:25] <hischild> manchicken_, i doubt that ... how much space do you use, binaries only?
[07:25] <alan_m> bazhang, i found pastebinit but cant find cat in the repositories, are you sure thats right? (asking for future reference to users)
[07:25] <manchicken_> bazhang: Remember, you're talking Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Edubuntu, from Hoary through Hardy.
[07:25] <Gnea> manchicken_: you're also talking about round robin
[07:25] <manchicken_> hischild: IIRC the question was how bit the repository is...
[07:26] <manchicken_> That would include source debs as well as binary debs.
[07:26] <manchicken_> s/bit/big
[07:26] <knoppix> What is the commend to make a disklabel pleae?
[07:26] <bazhang> alan_m: it would be first: install pastebinit; then cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit which will spit a url out for you to post here
[07:26] <robm2> Gnea: uh. I dont have a folder inetd.d
[07:26] <sriramoman> bazhang: are repos in ubuntu like urls?
[07:26] <bazhang> sriramoman: did you read that link even?
[07:26] <knoppix> I searched gogle and got ever command but the disk label one
[07:26] <alan_m> ah, sorry bud, just got confused ;)
[07:26] <robm2> Gnea: i thought maybe I was doing someting wrong in ssh so I loggedin with vnc and I can't find it
[07:26] <knoppix> even the man
[07:26] <kelvin911> hello is there a channel talks about linux games?
[07:27] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic kelvin911
[07:27] <Gnea> robm2: it's xinetd.d lol
[07:27] <kelvin911> i am looking fps games that can be play single player
[07:27] <sriramoman> i read it, but is it absolutely necessary to use apt-mirror?
[07:27] <Gnea> manchicken_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=2db139e1191e1e2bcac67e5d293e7c23&t=352460
[07:27] <bullgard4> What mechanism appends to the name of a process a / and a digit, for example 'migration/0' or 'ata/0'?
[07:27] <knoppix> Can I bother someone here for the linux command for disklabel please
[07:27] <cableroy> hi, i have dualscreen, but when i login with my regular user it gets twin view, i tried to make a new user and loged in, and that worked good, how to fix this on my regular user?
[07:28] <alan_m> kelvin911, please take the discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[07:28] <bazhang> sriramoman: that was just a suggestion; this is Linux so feel free to come up with your own ;]
[07:28] <manchicken_> Gnea: I'll be happy to look at that after my dist-upgrade is done.
[07:28] <kelvin911> alan_m: thx
[07:28] <Odd-rationale> knoppix: you will have to reformat the partion. Is that OK?
[07:28] <knoppix> geez
[07:28] <knoppix> yes
[07:28] <knoppix> disklele
[07:28] <Odd-rationale> knoppix: what filesystem?
[07:28] <knoppix> mk something
[07:28] <sriramoman> can u point me to some repo?
[07:28] <knoppix> ext3
[07:28] <bullgard4> knoppix: You can use Gparted to change partition labels.
[07:29] <knoppix> gparted will not LABEL!!!!
[07:29] <Gnea> sriramoman: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=2db139e1191e1e2bcac67e5d293e7c23&t=352460
[07:29] <knoppix> I wnt to leabel / and home thats it
[07:29] <Odd-rationale> knoppix: mkfs.ext3 -L your label /dev/sdb1
[07:29] <knoppix> !!!
[07:29] <robm2> Gnea: okay, I created the file swat and pasted your text
[07:29] <knoppix> thanks
[07:29] <bazhang> knoppix: calm down please
[07:29] <knoppix> hehe
[07:29] <Gnea> robm2: ok, now: /etc/init.d/xinetd restart
[07:29] <robm2> Gnea: stopping, starting
[07:30] <robm2> Gnea: okay I can access the webpage now, whats the un/pass same as my regular?
[07:30] <Gnea> robm2: whatever you set root to :)
[07:30] <robm2> Gnea: okay logged in
[07:30] <Gnea> robm2: if you login as regular user you won't be able to do everything
[07:30] <robm2> Gnea: I'm as root
[07:31] <IanFHood> I am a total noobie, have installed 6.06.2 (server) but # apt-get install python2.4-setuptools returns error: couldn't find package...
[07:31] <Gnea> robm2: oh ok cool. click on stuff. read things. dive in. enjoy.
[07:31] <Gnea> :)
[07:31] <martzipAN^> hey , i put a file in /bin dir that will be a global command so i can use it anywhere , but if i not run it as a root user its asks me password, is there a way to run that command with any user without asking a password ?
[07:31] <bazhang> IanFHood: did you add sudo to that
[07:31] <IanFHood> yes
[07:31] <robm2> Gnea: :( that doesn't exactly help
[07:31] <IanFHood> well, from sudo -i
[07:31] <IanFHood> same thing, no?
[07:32] <sriramoman> Gnea: thank u
[07:32] <Gnea> robm2: the only way to learn it is to, quite honestly, USE it
[07:32] <martzipAN^> shouldnt i change the chmod of the file of somthing in /bin
[07:32] <martzipAN^> ?
[07:32] <Gnea> sriramoman: you're welcome
[07:32] <knoppix> thanks
[07:32] <sriramoman> Gnea: this is suitable for me, only that i want to know how i can pause/resume downloads
[07:32] <Gnea> robm2: you've got icons across the top. click on them, experiment, poke around - just don't click on 'commit' yet
[07:32] <Geoffrey2> when using the tar command, how do I specify an existing directory to place the extracted files in, instead of it creating a new directory?
[07:32] <robm2> Gnea: i was fine before installing swat. it's just that ever since I installed the new hd and shared a folder my other shares weren't accessable from windows. howe am I supposed to figure out  why
[07:33] <Gnea> robm2: check out your shares button
[07:33] <robm2> Gnea: the existing shares are still there
[07:33] <Gnea> robm2: you should have a drop-down list of all of your shares.
[07:33] <Gnea> robm2: then see if they're browsable or available
[07:34] <IanFHood> bazhang: yes, used sudo
[07:34] <leonbrussels> Marzipan sudo chmod 775 /bin/youtfile
[07:34] <leonbrussels> i think
[07:34] <robm2> Gnea: browsable is no. if I change that to yes, I supopse that will fix... if I set default that makes it for all shares?
[07:34] <Gnea> robm2: make it 'yes', it will only affect that share.
[07:35] <ZoiX> Wanda give me water :|
[07:35] <Gnea> robm2: and if it doesn't work right away, 'restart all' on the status button will fix that :)
[07:35]  * Gnea has been playing with samba a wee bit much lately, can you tell?
[07:35] <IanFHood> I was able to apt-get install python2.4-imaging with no problem, but I don't understand why not the setuptools... have I got the wrong id?
[07:36] <owen1> is installing kernel headers dangerous?
[07:36] <robm2> Gnea: neat, one of my shares got deleted when I changed to to browsable and commited changes
[07:36] <Gnea> owen1: dangerous? it... might take up... a little bit of... hard drive space lol
[07:36] <bazhang> IanFHood: try an apt-cache search for the exact name; such as apt-cache search python
[07:37] <Gnea> robm2: are you sure about that? click on another button then go back to it and try to select it again
[07:37] <orbisvicis> butt ... you need it ... to compile modules ... etc
[07:37] <leonbrussels> MartzipAN^ use sudo chmod 775 on your file
[07:37] <Gnea> :)
[07:37] <sriramoman> can i use i386 packages on x86_64 ubuntu?
[07:37] <robm2> Gnea: no, I was mistaken, it keeps changeing to print$. CAn I delete print$ I dont have any printers
[07:37] <ZoiX> http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/2918/pantallazobg3.png
[07:38] <owen1> Gnea: i am trying to use virtualbox on 8.04 and get error about virtualbox kernel driver not installed.
[07:38] <Gnea> robm2: print$ is a default printer thing for samba, it's harmless. best off to leave it alone.
[07:38] <hischild> manchicken_, i'm downloading the repo's now. Not including the sources and normally excluded ones, they account for 41gb
[07:38] <owen1> Gnea: when googling for it some say to do this: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[07:38] <Gnea> owen1: /join #ubuntu+1  they support hardy there
[07:38] <bazhang> owen1: that would be #ubuntu+1
[07:38] <IanFHood> bazhang: nothing
[07:39] <sriramoman> owen1: add ur username under vbox?? group. that v???? name would be included in the error
[07:39] <bullgard4> What mechanism appends to the name of a process a / and a digit, for example 'migration/0' or 'ata/0'?
[07:39] <bazhang> IanFHood: try some different keywords or search packages.ubuntu.com
[07:40] <manchicken_> hischild: All of them?  Over the last 2-3 years?
[07:40] <hischild> manchicken_, i'm talking about the current repo's for hardy.
[07:41] <manchicken_> hischild: The person I was answering before just mentioned repos.  Not current repos :)
[07:41] <manchicken_> heh
[07:41] <robm2> Gnea: when it says available that does that mean. I set browsable adn available to yes on both. I stil can't connect with windows
[07:41] <manchicken_> I can't imagine that current repos would be > 100GB.  Are you including universe and restricted as well/
[07:41] <manchicken_> I'm gonna be rebooting shortly for hardy upgrade.
[07:42] <hischild> manchicken_, i'm assuming he wants the same as i do, which is a local copy of the repo's.
[07:42] <robm2> Gnea: brb rebooting windows
[07:42] <manchicken_> hischild: That's not a terrible assumption.
[07:43] <Radit> Can anyone tell me how to take a screen shot of a window?
[07:43] <bazhang> so 1TB minus a bit ;]
[07:43] <hischild> manchicken_, *sigh* that's a huge relief. I was afraid i made a horrible assumption and that the world was going to end because of it.
[07:43] <hischild> Radit, try print screen ;-)
[07:44] <manchicken_> hischild: Well, there was that sudden jerk as the planet began to rotate in the opposite direction... but it's a bit speculative to blame it on you... yet...
[07:44] <hischild> manchicken_, uhoh ...
[07:44] <manchicken_> I'll find a way to blame it on you though.  Don't worry :)
[07:44] <hischild> manchicken_, i wouldn't expect anything less from you :-)
[07:44] <manchicken_> heh
[07:44]  * Gnea notes that the planet kept turning just fine here
[07:44] <Gnea> sanity-check!
[07:45] <manchicken_> Gnea: Of course not.
[07:45] <hischild> Gnea, no that's impossible... it's becoming night again while it just was morning ... o.O
[07:45] <EdgEy> scope error Gnea
[07:45] <kjdx> Someone I know what kind of ubuntu can install on this server? ---> http://computers.pricegrabber.com/servers/m/4762544/details/st=product_tab/
[07:45] <Gnea> lmfao
[07:45] <Radit> hirschild, I would like to take a screen shot of just a window not the whole program.. is this possible? using alt+printscreen doesn't include the window title...
[07:46] <manchicken_> Radit: I believe there's a screenshot program in accessories
[07:46] <figuringout> hi, i'm on ubuntu dapper drake. i cant get the video codec for m WMV files working in mplayer.  Any help here?
[07:46] <hischild> Radit, use the normal print screen and then cut it? or use the screenshot program.
[07:46] <manchicken_> rebooting.  Back shortly
[07:46] <hischild> good luck
[07:46] <Radit> ok, thanks...
[07:47] <zcat[1]> figuringout: sudo apt-get install win32codecs  .. but if they're 'protected wma' you can't play them outside of windows or a wma player (not even a zune :)
[07:47] <sphinxx> hey nik you still here
[07:47] <Gnea> kjdx: not sure if that's a 64-bit cpu or not... i386 for sure, but if it is 64-bit, x86_64 (AMD64) should work just fine
[07:47] <Gnea> robm2: wb
[07:48] <figuringout> zcat, what repo? i get Couldn't find package win32codecs
[07:48] <robm2> Gnea: hi
[07:48] <robm2> Gnea:  rebooted winows. still can't connect to \\myubuntu previously I could atleast do that and see the printers folder now it doesn't even
[07:48] <Nith> Hello, I'm trying to change my tty's resolution. I've attempted doing vga=794 and vga=0x31A among other vga settings with no luck. How do I do this correctly?
[07:48] <zcat[1]> figuringout: might be w32codecs, sorry
[07:48] <robm2> Gnea: windows can't find it, check spelling etc.
[07:48] <Gnea> robm2: did you set your windows box to the same workgroup as the samba server?
[07:48] <dufeeducky> kvjlfkreiofjklwa
[07:48] <figuringout> zcat: thanks. should work now.
[07:49] <robm2> Gnea: yes, it always has been. Aside from installing the new hd on ubuntu, and creating the share onthat hd I made absolutely no changes to anything else
[07:49] <robm2> Gnea: that's why I'm so frustrated that it just stopped working and wont see my other shares
[07:50] <Gnea> robm2: ok, just checking. what sort of security do you have set for samba? is it share or user?
[07:50] <zcat[1]> figuringout: might .. if you ripped them yourself in Windows media player, the default is 'protected' -- because MSFT knows that everybody really really wants to be able to do sfa with their own music...
[07:50] <sphinxx> is possible to network drives between ubuntu and windows xp?
[07:50] <sphinxx> so they can see each other
[07:50] <sphinxx> over a network
[07:50] <Gnea> sphinxx: yes.
[07:50] <figuringout> zcat: will get back in case of probs. i just couldn't figure out the package name. all the online forums mention old names. it has changed i believe
[07:50] <sphinxx> im new as you can tell
[07:50] <robm2> gnea: waiting for swat to load... pretty sure its user because previously I was always asked for un/pass before it would show anything
[07:51] <cybermad> how to save command history on terminal?
[07:51] <cybermad> how to save command history of terminal?
[07:51] <Yashy> shell specific
[07:51] <zcat[1]> figuringout: yeah, it's called 'non-free-codecs' in hardly
[07:51] <Gnea> cybermad: no need, it's already done. use the history command
[07:51] <sphinxx> i just installed ubuntu 7.10, what are the first steps i need to take now?
[07:51] <Yashy> sphinxx: do to what?
[07:51] <Gnea> sphinxx: no idea, what do you like to do with your computer?
[07:51] <hischild> sphinxx, enjoy the best OS ever.
[07:51] <zcat[1]> hmm.. gtg
[07:51] <cybermad> Gnea i want to re-install the PC with other OS, and need to backup the history
[07:52] <sphinxx> like as far as security
[07:52] <sphinxx> or whatever
[07:52] <Gnea> cybermad: check .bash_history
[07:52] <sphinxx> i was reading you should update the kernel because newer runs run better on newer cpus?
[07:52] <cybermad> thanks
[07:52] <sriramoman> can someone pls tell me whats there in the ubuntu dvd thats not there in the cd?
[07:52] <zcat[1]> sphinxx: enable universe/multiverse repos and medibuntu, and install ubuntu-restricted-extras and dvdcss2 packages
[07:52] <Yashy> sphinxx: your questions sucks.
[07:53] <hischild> sphinxx, no need. The system you have now is just perfect. What do you want to do? perhaps then we can suggest some packages.
[07:53] <Yashy> sphinxx: http://hackepedia.org/?title=IRC:9
[07:53] <sphinxx> all id like is to have safe web browsing
[07:53] <hischild> sphinxx, that's done by default. Anything else?
[07:53] <sphinxx> and it would be nice for it to see my drive on my windows xp desktop
[07:53] <sphinxx> over the network
[07:53] <Yashy> sphinxx: define safe.
[07:53] <hischild> sphinxx, go to network and see if you see the xp box.
[07:53] <zcat[1]> sphinxx: well, restricted-extras will set up flash and java for you.. you very likely want them.. and dvdcss2 will let you watch DVD's
[07:54] <Yashy> firefox with no script plugin is a good starting point
[07:54] <robm2> Gnea: some how smb was turned off. started it up again, seems fine.... crossing fingers by readding the share on the new hd
[07:54] <zcat[1]> dunno about noscript, but adblockplus is a must-have!
[07:54] <Gnea> robm2: ok
[07:54] <Daisuke_Ido> noscript, adblock plus....
[07:54] <Yashy> flash and java are both prolly exploitable right now
[07:54] <sphinxx> so that means i couldnt use youtube?
[07:54]  * Gnea prefers adblock, adblockplus always screws up
[07:54] <Yashy> http://hackepedia.org/?title=Firefox
[07:54] <Daisuke_Ido> downthemall, customizegoogle (those seem odd, but hey)
[07:54] <zcat[1]> actually yes, noscript -- I got rickrolled today, first time ever. Argh!
[07:55] <Yashy> heh
[07:55] <mauro-bls> hi all
[07:55] <hischild> zcat[1], youtube has rickrolled a lot of ppl today
[07:55] <Gnea> sphinxx: sure you can, just go there and when you can't view it, click on it and it should redirect you to download the ubuntu plugin
[07:55] <Daisuke_Ido> ah, but that's youtube's awesomeness today :D
[07:55] <figuringout> youtube i heard is rickrolling from featured videos
[07:55] <Daisuke_Ido> yep
[07:55] <hischild> figuringout, correct
[07:55] <zcat[1]> I got the javascript page you can't quit out of.. and damn FF3b4 saves the page and goes back to it when I kill the browser too, argh!!
[07:56] <sphinxx> should i click 'get the latest flash player'
[07:56] <hischild> zcat[1], here's the solution:
[07:56] <Gnea> pwned
[07:56] <Nith> any tty lovers out there ever use vga=something in grub?
[07:56] <zcat[1]> all of a sudden that's not such a good feature
[07:56] <hischild> zcat[1], open up that page, open up a new page, THEN kill firefox.
[07:56] <hansjd> is there any way i change my 11g standard to 11b standard on my wireless? it seem's like i can't log on to my school network because it is 11b standard
[07:56] <Gnea> sphinxx: sure
[07:56] <hischild> zcat[1], as in: open ff twice
[07:56] <figuringout> this is a useful page to keep eyes open http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_1%2C_2008
[07:56] <ken> o!
[07:56] <ken> hello!
[07:56] <Gnea> hischild: i like my method better: open a terminal, issue a killall -9 firefox-bin
[07:56] <zcat[1]> hischild: you can't open a new page, it constantly pops a javascript dialog up so you can't do anything else
[07:56] <sphinxx> how does root work exactly, is liek the equivalent of Administrator on windows?
[07:57] <ken> somebody can sen me a midonkey for deb !
[07:57] <zcat[1]> anyhow.. I solved it in the end
[07:57] <hischild> zcat[1], alt f2 firefox && firefox
[07:57] <sphinxx> i never set a password for it, i only set a password for the username i created
[07:57] <hischild> Gnea, then it'll open the page again when he opens it up
[07:57] <IanFHood> bazhang: ok, tried the packages.ubuntu.com - got the correct id, still won't find it
[07:57] <manchicken> There we go.
[07:57] <DistroJockey> !sudo | sphinxx
[07:57] <co-djali> rs.plasa.com
[07:57] <Gnea> hischild: not if he presses up-arrow and enter really fast, one right after the other, after making sure that the terminal remains on top of all other applications
[07:57] <robm2> Gnea: okay looks good thanks. just want to say that swat gui is a little unuser friendly when choosing shares. I have to rechoose the share many times because it keeps loading the printer one even though i picked something else and clicked choose
[07:58] <ken> somebody can send me the mldonkey for deb!!! my system is 7.10 !
[07:58] <ken> somebody can send me the mldonkey for deb!!! my system is 7.10 !
[07:58] <hischild> Gnea, i c
[07:58] <DistroJockey> sphinxx: sudo infront of the command gives root access
[07:58] <sphinxx> how do i install this flash player i downloaded?
[07:58] <sphinxx> its a .tar.gz file
[07:58] <ken> somebody can send me the mldonkey for deb!!! my system is 7.10 !
[07:58] <robm2> Gnea: i appreciate it. time for bed
[07:58] <eth01> tar zxvf, cd foo
[07:58] <Gnea> robm2: yeah, it's fairly hard-edged a bit, but it's really the most user-friendly gui for setting up samba correctly
[07:58] <ken> somebody can send me the mldonkey for deb!!! my system is 7.10 !
[07:59] <Gnea> robm2: cheers, nite
[07:59] <hischild> figuringout,  i like the april joke from nightwish ..
[07:59] <robm2> gnight all
[07:59] <eth01> ken: please don't ask your question twice, in what, the space of 5 seconds
[07:59]  * Gnea throws barbie dolls at ken
[07:59] <ken> sorry
[08:00]  * Yashy wonders if ken is esl in obscure country
[08:00] <sphinxx> hischild ill rephrase, what do I need to do to ensure all my ports are closed
[08:00]  * Gnea notices that too
[08:00]  * Gnea proceeds to put his gf's barbies back where they belong.
[08:00] <hischild> sphinxx, you don't need anything. If you want to control your firewall, google for an iptables tutorial.
[08:00] <Yashy> sphinxx: http://hackepedia.org/?title=ports
[08:01] <eth01> Gnea: topic please.
[08:01] <Gnea> eth01: ubotu is MIA
[08:01] <hischild> Yashy, do you have any other resource then just hackepedia .... ?
[08:01] <eth01> Gnea: i don't care, topic.
[08:01] <sphinxx> is firefox 3 beta 4 ok for linux?
[08:01] <eth01> sphinxx: yes and no?
[08:01] <SmokeyD> hey, anybody knows how to turn off focus stealing prevention in metacity?
[08:01] <Gnea> definitely time for sleep, nite.
[08:01] <Yashy> hischild: Why do I need a different one?
[08:01] <sphinxx> like are any of you using it, i know on my xp, 3 performs a lot faster
[08:02] <figuringout> hischild: the worst is my fav xkcd. they've swtiched sites. which is a way of rickrolling. the right link to the xkcd comic for today is www.qwantz.com
[08:02] <ken> hello!~ i am looking for the mldonkey for deb !
[08:02] <hischild> Yashy, instead of redirecting people you could offer help ...
[08:02] <hischild> figuringout, lol ... well nightwish went with green energy for the day!
[08:02] <ken> somebody give me a addrees for web
[08:03] <Lunks> How to compile NVIDIA kernel module together with a custom built kernel?
[08:03] <omnz0r> sphinxx: you could use iptables
[08:03] <Yashy> hischild: ask me a question that is answered easily there, that I can answer, and I'll help any way I can.
[08:03] <sphinxx> is iptables a program?
[08:03] <Yashy> that isn't answered easily
[08:03] <omnz0r> it is
[08:03] <Lunks> I don't want to wait until failsafe X loads, I kill it and then install it from nvidia script.
[08:04] <Yashy> sphinxx: linux based packet filter
[08:04] <sphinxx> is there a quick way to just close every port
[08:04] <sphinxx> im not going to be doing any hosting or anything
[08:04] <MistaGee> I'm currently having issues with alsa in ubuntu hardy... whenever a program tries to list up the available devices and/or PCMs, it hangs completely and can't be killed. has anyone experienced this before?
[08:04] <omnz0r> iptables -P INPUT DROP
[08:05] <hischild> sphinxx, they are closed by default.
[08:05] <Yashy> sphinxx: change your runtime/init mode then?
[08:05] <hischild> MistaGee, /j #ubuntu+1
[08:05] <bullgard4> What mechanism appends to the name of a process a / and a digit, for example 'migration/0' or 'ata/0'?
[08:05] <sphinxx> so i dont need to do anything im safe out of the box?
[08:05] <manchicken> MistaGee: That sounds like an intel hda issue.  I haven't found two hda issues that were the same so you may want to check #ubuntu+1, but also start googling.
[08:05] <hischild> omnz0r, that might kick him out as well as returning traffic can also be bounced
[08:06] <Yashy> sphinxx: I hear there is a firewall in Hardy, but you should be OK out of the box. try http://crypto.yashy.com/nmap.php
[08:06] <sphinxx> i have 7.10 desktop
[08:06] <MistaGee> thanks
[08:06] <hischild> sphinxx, you can use firestarter to check your firewall and stuff, or set up your own using iptables.
[08:06] <MistaGee> I actually do have an intel hda
[08:06] <sphinxx> im sorry i want to stress how new i am to this :\
[08:06] <omnz0r> hischild: yes, put it closes all ports
[08:06] <Blinkiz> I need help with unison and the merge function. Where can I ask my question?
[08:07] <Yashy> firewalling is getting better in ubuntu
[08:07] <hischild> omnz0r, it doesn't just close all ports, it drops _ALL_ incoming traffic.
[08:07] <Yashy> Blinkiz: ask and cross your finger for a pointer?
[08:07] <omnz0r> hischild: yes, that is correct
[08:07] <hischild> omnz0r, which includes responses from outgoing traffic.
[08:08] <Blinkiz> Yashy: ;)
[08:10] <sphinxx> it says 202 updates available, should i install these?
[08:10] <hischild> sphinxx, yes
[08:10] <eth01> yeah
[08:10] <Blinkiz> I have two txt files that has changed on two location. Am using unison to sync changes. Problem now is that the file has changed on both sides. unison has a solution for this called "merge". Problem is that after reading the merge manual page, I can't still get it to work. Anyone wanna help me out?
[08:10] <hischild> Blinkiz, do you still have the original?
[08:11] <sphinxx> i feel so useless not doing anything after installing the OS
[08:11] <sphinxx> :\
[08:11] <hischild> sphinxx, USE your OS, instead of spending hours finding everything you need to get it to work.
[08:11] <Yashy> Blinkiz: is this a one off you can use diff to merge them, or a regular issue with unison?
[08:11] <sphinxx> lol
[08:11] <sphinxx> ill drink 2 that
[08:11] <sphinxx> although id like to tweak it for speed since the laptop isnt that great
[08:12] <Yashy> sphinxx: search "ubuntu kernel tweaks"
[08:12] <hischild> sphinxx, windows takes me about 3 hours to get it working with drivers (vista that is, for xp is not possible due to lack of drivers) and then i don't have any programs. Ubuntu takes me 20 min for the install, and 40 min for the updates.
[08:12] <kelvin911> i accidently delete emacs(client) from main menu how do i get it back?
[08:13] <hischild> Yashy, you're suggesting kernel tweaks to a newbie ... don't you think that's a little dangerous?
[08:13] <Blinkiz> Yashy: I think my problem is a combo between diff3 and unison. diff3 wants MYFILE OLDFILE YOURFILE. I do not have oldfile. Just myfile and yourfile.
[08:14] <hischild> Blinkiz, diff can merge between files as well, putting all differences together into one file.
[08:14] <Blinkiz> hischild: Yeah, thats my goal
[08:14] <maek> !latest
[08:14] <Blinkiz> hischild: But diff is launched from unison.
[08:15] <Lunks> Yashy hischild do you know how to integrate nvidia into a custom kernel build?
[08:15] <sphinxx> is there a GUI interface for iptables?
[08:15] <hischild> Blinkiz, why not use diff yourself? from what i've read on diff, you can do that yourself.
[08:15] <hischild> sphinxx, firestarter iirc
[08:15] <Blinkiz> I think I found a solution to my problem. Its about having backups all the time on old files. http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7712
[08:15] <hischild> Lunks, no sorry
[08:15] <Blinkiz> hischild: Can't use diff directly in my case
[08:15] <Yashy> Blinkiz: Is this a one off you can diff them and merge them? Or will it happen regurily
[08:16] <compizfusion> quit
[08:16] <sphinxx> how do you install applications? like i have a tar.gz file i would like to install
[08:16] <hischild> Blinkiz, can you elaborate?
[08:16] <bikeboy> Any programs similar to Audacity but lighter weight/simpler? - I just want to trim some mp3 or wav files and possibly compress the resulting mp3
[08:16] <Blinkiz> Yashy: It will happen regurily
[08:16] <Yashy> hischild: sounds like he's looking for something challenging?
[08:16] <hischild> Yashy, who, lunks? yes
[08:16] <omnz0r> sphinxx: what app is it?
[08:17] <Yashy> sphinxx: try $ gksudo synaptic
[08:17] <JanPeter> hey if anyone has any experience getting Age of Empires 3 to work in wine join #winehq to help someone out thanks!
[08:17] <co-djali> hiii
[08:17] <sphinxx> sorry.. its flash 9
[08:18] <sphinxx> .tar.gz
[08:18] <Yashy> ./k Janpeter spam
[08:18] <Blinkiz> hischild: diff3 needs three inputs. MYFILE OLDFILE YOURFILE. Unison is providing MYFILE and YOURFILE by default. Unison is calling diff3 when it notice a change on both sides of the backup. The solution is to configure unison so it keeps old files. That way, OLDFILE will exist
[08:18]  * Yashy does not recommend flash right now
[08:19] <maek> Yashy, yeah Flash on linux is crap
[08:19] <JanPeter> im not spamming
[08:19] <JanPeter> its not even my problem....
[08:19] <Yashy> Blinkiz: sounds reasonable
[08:19] <hischild> Blinkiz, i see. Then this might sound stupid: why not just copy it?
[08:19] <Yashy> maek: as an app it's been compromised.
[08:19] <Blinkiz> hischild: Because it's on remote sites. Syncronizing backups over the net
[08:20] <Blinkiz> hischild: unison is good for this
[08:20] <bullgard4> What mechanism appends to the name of a process a / and a digit, for example 'migration/0' or 'ata/0'?
[08:21] <hischild> Blinkiz, i got that part. I meant, before you do the diff part, why not throw in a cp oldfile oldfile.bac
[08:21] <butchy_nice> s0_fie
[08:21] <Yashy> bullgard4: text parsers do
[08:22] <Blinkiz> hischild: Your right. That is the solution. Thing is that that command is integrated into unison. It's called "backup". I just need to understand how it works.
[08:22] <bullgard4> Yashy: Tell me why.
[08:23] <hischild> Blinkiz, i meant: before you call this backup, unison or whichever program you use, call a cp.
[08:23] <hischild> manchicken_, having luck with the upgrade?
[08:24] <Yashy> bullgard4: they take text in, right? then they parse it.
[08:24] <manchicken_> Yeah, just trying to get my daru2 to suspend now.
[08:24] <kelvin911> how to burn lightscribe disc in ubuntu?
[08:25] <Peddy> Can someone please help me, I get this error when opening a lot of things: ImportError: /usr/lib/libgnomevfs-2.so.0: undefined symbol: g_assertion_message_expr :'(
[08:26] <bullgard4> Yashy: But parsers do not add suffixes, as far I know.
[08:26] <Blinkiz> hischild: That's the beauty of unison. It handles all this commands. Unison is making backups on the remote site (ssh connection) with the cp command. I just trying to understand how. Am on my why with the command "backupcurrent" within unison
[08:27] <hischild> Blinkiz, i'm sorry, i misunderstood.
[08:27] <bullgard4> Yashy: Besides, I used ps with some options only.
[08:27] <Yashy> parsers can add whatever you want
[08:28] <Yashy> Blinkiz: There is no beauty in unison if you are asking questions. rsync is the better option right now.
[08:30] <marlun> What package should I install if I want Default Language: English (Swedish). I don't want my ubuntu to be in swedish but I want the calendar to start with Monday and other things thats swedish. I can choose English (Denmark) but there is no English (Swedish).
[08:30] <ubuntuQWADZSD> i JUST DELETED the wrong NTFS Partition!! first thing ive done is put in the Ubuntu live boot cd and come here? any ideas? i have about 250megs of photos i REALLY cannot lose
[08:30] <Blinkiz> Yashy: I don't think it is in my case. Having one central server handling backup and three client synchronizing against this backup. A star topology. For example, all three computers should have the right signons3.txt that is the password file Firefox-3.0 is using.
[08:31] <Yashy> marlun: "sweedish language packs ubuntu" search
[08:31] <eth01> ubuntuQWADZSD: theres a few things you can do.. but case in point, you've lost everything.
[08:31] <ubuntuQWADZSD> eth01: okay tell me all
[08:32] <zcat[1]> ubuntuQWADZSD: recreate it.. you've only removed the partition, not the filesystem.. if you restore it just how itt was all should be well
[08:32] <Tomatix> eth01, just a thought, isn't NTFS made such it resets sectors at unused, so recover could be possible?
[08:32] <Yashy> ubuntuQWADZSD: promise to backup everything, everwhere, moving forward?
[08:32] <eth01> zcat[1]: uhh, not really.
[08:32] <ubuntuQWADZSD> zcat[1]: i can just recreate it with gparted?
[08:32] <zcat[1]> eth01: how not really?
[08:32] <ubuntuQWADZSD> wont that overwrite data?
[08:33] <eth01> zcat[1]: if he does that, he'll lose even more, duh.
[08:33] <zcat[1]> ubuntuQWADZSD: dod you do anything at all other than remove the partition in the pattiton editor?
[08:33] <zcat[1]> *did
[08:33] <ubuntuQWADZSD> zcat[1]: nope
[08:33] <ubuntuQWADZSD> god damned fdisk and its lack of detail
[08:34] <zcat[1]> ubuntuQWADZSD: if they files are really important, you might be best to call a data recovery expert ASAP... I would be 99% sure that you can just put the partiton settings back.. but not 100% sure
[08:34] <ubuntuQWADZSD> zcat[1]: ok thats enough to go on, its just photos i already have on facebook but i will give it a try =)
[08:34] <zcat[1]> If you've done nothing else thogh I am 100% sure you can get every last bit back again
[08:34] <Yashy> pretty much like someone ripped the table of contents out of your harddrive
[08:35] <Yashy> worth it to bring back the table of contents or it's not
[08:35] <eth01> theres every possibility that the actual FS has been wiped too
[08:35] <Yashy> possible
[08:35] <ubuntuQWADZSD> zcat[1]:  ITS THERE =D THANKS!!!
[08:36] <xp_prg> I just got my passport, anyone want to invite me to their country so I can say hi to them?
[08:36] <Yashy> but you fail in the area of being positive :)
[08:36] <zcat[1]> eth01: depends if he just saved partition changes, or went ahead and created a new FS over the top.. if he didn't, he should be pretty safe
[08:36] <eth01> xp_prg: bai
[08:36] <eth01> Yashy: you can't always be positive :(
[08:36] <Yashy> true
[08:37] <DistroJockey> ubuntuQWADZSD: testdisk may be worth a look: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[08:37] <zcat[1]> ubuntuQWADZSD: cool!! Probably a good idea to backup the files, cos if you got even one cylinder out you're going to see massive FS corruption as soon as you start doing anything else with the FS
[08:37] <eth01> ubuntuQWADZSD: defrag it
[08:37] <zcat[1]> eth01: NO!!!!!
[08:37] <ubuntuQWADZSD> zcat[1]: yeah im going to install ntfs3g and back up to another safe partition
[08:37] <zcat[1]> ignore eth01he's giving terrible advice
[08:37] <ubuntuQWADZSD> im not that silly haha =p
[08:38] <ubuntuQWADZSD> just wanted a second opinion
[08:38] <hischild> ubuntuQWADZSD, if you're going to do ANYTHING with it, be sure to back it up first. If possible (and you know how) mount it read only to prevent accidents
[08:38] <eth01> zcat[1]: don't be so over-the-top.
[08:38] <DASPRiD> hr
[08:38] <DASPRiD> http://www.linux.com/feature/131059
[08:38] <Homere> hello. Got an issue with Ubuntu 8.10 amd64 desktop.  Sometimes my session starts, I can launch programms (Firefox, thunderbird, terminal) and then .... got "connection refused to 0.0" and I can't starts X apps anymore
[08:38] <DASPRiD> read the first passage :D
[08:38] <FloodBot1> DASPRiD: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:38] <Yashy> zcat[1]: what is the process to kick him, if so?
[08:38] <ubuntuQWADZSD> hischild: yeah its already mounted as read only the second i deleted the partition
[08:38] <hischild> homere: /j #ubuntu+1
[08:39] <zcat[1]> eth01: If it's not 100% where it was, defraging it might well completely destroy any chance of recovering all the files
[08:39] <hischild> ubuntuQWADZSD, ok gd =)
[08:39] <eth01> Yashy: whats the process to kick you more like.
[08:39] <Homere> hischild: ok
[08:39] <eth01> zcat[1]: theres no harm in using defrag, once backed up obv.. (but isn't that just common sense after one fright?)
[08:39] <zcat[1]> eth01: why don't you just go ahead and tell him to rm -rf while he's at it...
[08:40] <zcat[1]> eth01: yes, AFTER..
[08:40] <hischild> eth01, zcat[1], please stop the useless discussion.
[08:40] <eth01> zcat[1]: /topoc
[08:40] <eth01> /topic, even
[08:41] <Smegzor> I edited grub's menu.lst because splashy just gives me a blank screen, but I want to re-enable splashy.  All I have to do is edit menu.lst but I don't have a backup of the original.  What goes after ro?   /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-12-generic root=UUID=e5f70ba4-7566-45d9-b123-2fd983ea3c7f ro
[08:41] <zcat[1]> eth01: If the files are recoverable, he should mount the filesystem and copy them somewhere safer .. if the partiton settings aren't right, it may be in a very fragile condition
[08:41] <Filiph> how can I format my HDD; full format. I have 6 partitions on 200Gig HDD. and I want to set it all to 0... is it possible with terminal?
[08:41] <hischild> Filiph, are you absolutely sure that you want to remove EVERYTHING from the disc?
[08:41] <zcat[1]> mount RO rather..
[08:42] <hischild> Smegzor, quiet splash
[08:42] <Smegzor> thanks
[08:42] <Filiph> yes... it has some bad sectors on C:\
[08:42] <ubuntuQWADZSD> this only happened because of damned vista stuffing up, lucky i know a chunk of linux to help me when this crapbox crashes
[08:42] <Smegzor> splashy has had a few updates so I'm going to see if its fixed yet
[08:42] <hischild> Filiph, bad sectors is one thing. But if you're absolutely sure, i'll help you through the process.
[08:42] <[[thufir]]> what's a good p2p for downloading mp3's please?
[08:43] <jussio1> !piracy | [[thufir]]
[08:43] <Smegzor> I also set my maximum resolution in splashy (somewhere).  I might actually see something this time!  brb
[08:43] <hischild> Filiph, do you know where the hd is located? like /dev/sdb
[08:43] <[[thufir]]> jussi01: in canada it's not illegal :)
[08:43] <Yashy> [[thufir]]: ktorrent
[08:44] <[[thufir]]> nor norway
[08:44] <MistaGee> I've blacklisted snd_hda_intel now, now aplay -l works (just doesn't find any devices), so the problem definitely has something to do with the hda thing
[08:44] <Tomatix> aMule?
[08:44] <D32697> Quick question how can I point to my drive "New Volume" what is the correct syntax... /media/New\ Volume/  is that how it works or?
[08:44] <eth01> Smegzor: once formatted, you'll lose 10gb or so
[08:44] <[[thufir]]> thanks
[08:44] <eth01> ah, he's gone
[08:45] <ubuntuQWADZSD> MistaGee: i guessing you have alsa installed properly?
[08:45] <nomopofomo> Hi, I'm trying to get a bunch of .otf files from various folders on a CD into one single directory. How would I go about doing that? In Windows I'd be able to use the search tool to locate them all on the CD and then transfer them but how about in Linux?
[08:46] <Filiph> hischild, i am on live CD...
[08:46] <MistaGee> I hope I do, I've tried with the default packages (and before the update, it worked), and I've tried compiling using module-assistant
[08:46] <hischild> Filiph, that's ok. Do you have only one hard disc?
[08:46] <jussi01> MistaGee: you have a intel hda correct?
[08:46] <MistaGee> yep
[08:46] <Filiph> hischild, one HDD and 6 partitions
[08:46] <jussi01> MistaGee: have you looked at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[08:47] <bullgard4> What mechanism appends to the name of a process a / and a digit, for example 'migration/0' or 'ata/0'?
[08:47] <eshaase> do 100mbit network cards really get you the supposed 12.5 MB/s or is it kinda like how HDs are where you never reach the maximum speed transfer rate?
[08:47] <eth01> eshaase: that depends on your internet connection
[08:48] <hischild> Filiph, in terminal type this ==> sudo fdisk /dev/sda
[08:48] <eth01> eshaase: or, what you've got in-between. router/switch and so on
[08:48] <hischild> eshaase, i get around 10 - 12 meg a sec when wired.
[08:48] <eshaase> eth01: assumign the ideal conditions
[08:48] <eshaase> hischild: 100mbit?
[08:48] <hischild> eshaase, yes.
[08:48] <eth01> eshaase: 100mbit...
[08:49] <Filiph> hischild, yes...
[08:49] <hischild> Filiph, you get a new menu, correct?
[08:50] <Shadow420> ha found a solution for my dual boot problem
[08:50] <Blinkiz> diff3 needs three input files. MYFILE OLDFILE YOURFILE. Does it exist a diff tool that only require MYFILE and YOURFILE?
[08:50] <hischild> Filiph, type h for the help menu. p for a list of current partitions with partition numbers. d for deleting a partition. The rest guides itself.
[08:50] <eth01> eshaase: we're working with 1gibt here -- never, have I got the "full" gbit
[08:50] <Shadow420> !pastebin
[08:50] <eshaase> eth01: well assuming you ahve 100mbit hardware in between
[08:50] <Filiph> eh?
[08:50] <eshaase> eth01: realistically
[08:50] <Shadow420> !find pastebin
[08:50] <eshaase> eth01: lets say a simple 100mbit hub
[08:50] <hischild> Filiph, type p to get a list of partition numbers.
[08:50] <hischild> Filiph, then type d and the partition number you want to remove.
[08:51] <Filiph> http://pastebin.com/m3b7a22d5
[08:51] <Shadow420> !
[08:51] <eth01> eshaase: if your NIC supports 1/10/100/ its ok?
[08:51] <eshaase> eth01: well, i don't expect the "full" gbit, just wanted to know what the realistic rates are
[08:51] <eshaase> eth01: what do you mean?
[08:51] <eth01> eshaase: mbit.
[08:51] <hischild> Filiph, that's a normal message. You can ignore it.
[08:51] <D32697> I have a drive named New Volume.. I need to know how to get a program to download files to it.. how do you point to a two word directory?
[08:51] <eth01> eshaase: point is, if your NIC supports that -- whats wrong?
[08:52] <markxchan> does anyone know a free local dictionary for ubuntu?
[08:52] <Filiph> ah, k. so... "p"?
[08:52] <markxchan> much like encarta dictionary
[08:52] <demianmex> well hello to everyone
[08:52] <marlun> Can I remove the thick border that is around windows in the ubuntu theme?
[08:52] <eshaase> eth01: i'm trying to get a feel for how fast gigabit will be if i get it and how much i'll lose out on considering my HD speed
[08:52] <hischild> Filbert, yes. (try to add my name, type his and hit tab to complete it. Makes your text red)
[08:52] <demianmex> this is my first time in a irc channel in more than 6 years
[08:52] <Filiph> hischild,  ok :-p
[08:53] <sphinxx> if i have dual boot, and my windows installtion gets infected with virus, my linux installation will be fine right?
[08:53] <eth01> eshaase: gbit, £940.53 p/m!
[08:53] <sphinxx> unless the grub loader got corrupted or something
[08:53] <demianmex> and finally i can make work properly my usb modem HDSPA with gusty
[08:53] <hischild> sphinxx, yes.
[08:53] <hischild> Filiph, just makes it a bit easier :-)
[08:53] <eshaase> eth01: whats that?
[08:53] <nomopofomo> I need cp help :(
[08:53] <hischild> nomopofomo, what's up?
[08:54] <eth01> eshaase: i don't think you understand.
[08:54] <Filiph> hischild, ok. it's done...
[08:54] <nomopofomo> hischild, I'm trying to copy all of my fonts from a CD that are in various directories into just one direcotry.
[08:54] <eshaase> eth01: i don't =)
[08:54] <demianmex> so guys, what you all up too?
[08:54] <eth01> eshaase: 1gbit is something the home-user (generally) won't have.
[08:54] <hischild> Filiph, you removed all the partitions?
[08:55] <eshaase> eth01: what does a home-user not generally having it have to do with what i want to do?
[08:55] <eth01> eshaase: it's used in data centre, businesses sharing it internally.
[08:55] <hischild> Filiph, do you want to create a new partition.
[08:55] <eth01> a *
[08:55] <eth01> eshaase: you won't be able to experience such speeds on your connection...
[08:56] <eshaase> eth01: why not?
[08:56] <Yashy> I wonder if there is a !bot command to paste the answer from hackpedia into IRC
[08:56] <hischild> eth01, if you do a lot of home copying it most certainly is usefull.
[08:56] <Yashy> err hackepedia
[08:56] <eshaase> eth01: i have a network of systems at home
[08:56] <eshaase> eth01: which is what i plan to use it for
[08:56] <Filiph> hischild, not yet first of all I want full format
[08:56] <eth01> err, you didn't say this was happening internally. sigh.
[08:56] <eshaase> eth01: i wouldn't consider it if it were just for the internet
[08:56] <eth01> you said it was for WAN purposes.
[08:57] <eshaase> eth01: i didn't say that
[08:57] <eth01> you didn't say it was for "wan" exactly like that. you implied it though.
[08:57] <MistaGee> jussi01, playback does work the way it is now
[08:57] <hischild> Filiph, that's what you've done when you removed the partitions. You can then type w to write the new partition (in this case, none)
[08:57] <eshaase> eth01: anyways, waht realistic for transfer rates considering i have two systems, two gbit cards and a gbit hub
[08:57] <eth01> eshaase: wrapping it up. if your routers/switches and nics support 100/1gbit or whatever, then it'll work - no probs.
[08:58] <nomopofomo> Argh........
[08:58] <eshaase> eth01: well i know it will work, i'm concerned about how fast it will work
[08:58] <Filiph> hischild, hmm... it was TO easy!!! cant be... and no format?
[08:58] <eth01> eshaase: we can't predict that, and that's being very realistic.
[08:58] <Smegzor> yay!  Splashy works! :D
[08:59] <eshaase> eth01: well i was hoping for a ball-park figure, like 25%, 75%, etc.
[08:59] <eshaase> eth01: kinda like how you can't expect ATA 100 to perform at 100MB/s
[08:59] <hischild> Filiph, we'll have to write the entire disc with dd once you've created a new partition (which is the formatting)
[08:59] <DistroJockey> eshaase: It would be around the 25% mark
[08:59] <eshaase> eth01: its more like 50% of that
[08:59] <eth01> eshaase: not possible
[09:00] <eshaase> DistroJockey: ouch, really? you think HD speeds are limiting that?
[09:00] <DistroJockey> eshaase: yeah, SATA2 = 300Gb/s
[09:00] <eth01> eshaase: whats with the % figures? heh
[09:00] <Filiph> hischild, but if i go to places => computer, I see all HDD listed... :-s
[09:00] <eshaase> eth01: i'm a % kind of guy =)
[09:00] <sphinxx> what does 'roaming mode' mean - its checked on my etho0 network adapter
[09:01] <bsdnewb07> hi guys with ubuntu if im a root user is there a way to become another user without knowing thre password?
[09:01] <eth01> eshaase: thats just not ideal in this scenario
[09:01] <snowolf> bsdnewb07: su
[09:01] <DistroJockey> eshaase: and that's max for the interface, and the drives can't even get up near that
[09:01] <bsdnewb07> su is just to become root isnt it
[09:01] <snowolf> no
[09:01] <snowolf> su user
[09:01] <bsdnewb07> ooh
[09:01] <bsdnewb07> cool
[09:01] <snowolf> and you became that user
[09:01] <eshaase> DistroJockey: what do you mean?
[09:01] <snowolf> *become
[09:02] <hischild> Filiph, that's odd. You did type w to write it, correct?
[09:02] <DistroJockey> eshaase: the drive doesn't spin fast enough to pump out 300Gb/s
[09:02] <kelvin911> 300 Gb/s?
[09:02] <DistroJockey> opps
[09:02] <DistroJockey> oops even
[09:03] <eth01> not all drives do.
[09:03] <Filiph> hischild, ow :-p not seen
[09:03] <kelvin911> about 39 GB/s ?? that fast?
[09:03] <sphinxx> hey guys i just did port scan on 127.0.0.1 and found 631 open (ipp), 37042, 42033, 58408 open
[09:03] <sphinxx> is there a reason those are open?
[09:03] <hischild> sphinxx, if you scan yourself, you'll also see the local ports.
[09:04] <sphinxx> so port scan of an address sees what ports that address can see on u?
[09:04] <DistroJockey> Ofcourse, I did mean 300Mb/s :) sorry
[09:04] <Filiph> haschild, I have to reboot...
[09:04] <DistroJockey> hmm, actually, it's 300MB/s *whaps self*
[09:05] <zcat[1]> services are often bound to 'localhost' -- you'll see them open if you scan 127.0.0.1 but you won't see them if you scan from elsewhere on the network
[09:05] <hischild> Filiph, can you pastebin me the contents of fstab? sudo aptitude install pastebinit && cat /etc/fstab | pastebinit (provide link in channel please)
[09:05] <hischild> Filiph, no you don't. We can do this all after each other.
[09:06] <jimmy_> ok it wasn't compiz, i saw that when the game setup runs its auto directx install (becasue it can't see that it's already installed) it gives lots of theese errors: err:setupapi:do_file_copyW Unsupported style(s) 0x144
[09:06] <bsdnewb07> snowolf  su user  is asking me for a password but i dont know there password
[09:06] <Filiph> hischild, eh? what have I to do?
[09:06] <jimmy_> does anyone know what they mean?
[09:06] <zcat[1]> bsdnewb07: sudo su user  -- will ask for your password, then log you in as 'user'
[09:06] <hischild> Filiph, you did write it now, correct?
[09:07] <icha_mnizz> hy
[09:07] <juzzy_> Mythbuntu 7.1 to 8 upgrade issue: upgraded and now won't boot, dumps to initramfs prompt after 1-2mins sitting on loading screen
[09:07] <hischild> Filiph, then please paste me the content of fstab: sudo aptitude install pastebinit && cat /etc/fstab | pastebinit (provide link in channel please)
[09:07] <Filiph> hischild, what wrote?
[09:07] <hischild> Filiph, the new partition table.
[09:09] <Filiph> http://pastebin.com/m7d56b1b8
[09:09] <Filiph> hischild, http://pastebin.com/m7d56b1b8
[09:10] <hischild> Filiph, yes. Type w and hit enter.
[09:10] <Yashy> 71.231 -
[09:10] <Filiph> hischild, http://pastebin.com/m7ccae7fe
[09:10] <Yashy> How can you tell if your paranoia is justified?
[09:11] <hischild> Filiph, yes.
[09:11] <hischild> Filiph, now pastebin me the output of mount please.
[09:11] <zcat[1]> Yashy: it is.
[09:12] <Filiph> hischild, srry I am not so advanced in linux... I am just a beginner... what's "ouput of mount"?
[09:13] <bullgard4> What mechanism appends to the name of a process a / and a digit, for example 'migration/0' or 'ata/0'?
[09:13] <Yashy> Filiph: type "mount" and what you see is the output.
[09:13] <cE_mIsTeRiUs> chiet
[09:13] <hischild> Filiph, type mount and copy the output of mount on pastebin.
[09:14] <Yashy> bullgard4: your last chance... a parser.
[09:14] <zcat[1]> Filiph: mount | pastebinit
[09:14] <bullgard4> Yashy: top is no parser.
[09:14] <Filiph> hischild, aaah http://pastebin.com/m7180a7b4
[09:15] <zcat[1]>     3 root      RT  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 migration/0
[09:15] <zcat[1]> like those??
[09:15] <hischild> Filiph, alright. Type this to unmount your drive ==> sudo umount /dev/sda5.
[09:15] <jimmy_> when i run 'wine AutoRun.exe' in NFS most wanted i get this error: err:service:service_get_status service protocol error - failed to read pipe r = 0  count = 0!  Could this be the reason that it can't see that directx is installed?
[09:16] <hischild> Filiph, then we can go create a new partition.
[09:16] <hischild> jimmy_, type #wine
[09:16] <Filiph> hischild, done
[09:16] <hischild> Filiph, alright, back to fdisk again. ==> sudo fdisk /dev/sda
[09:17] <jimmy_> i get no output with #wine
[09:17] <zcat[1]> only 117 users on #winehq ...
[09:17] <Filiph> hischild, http://pastebin.com/m20c31e46
[09:18] <hischild> Filiph, same warning, ignore it again.
[09:18] <hischild> Filiph, now we have to create the new partitions. Do you need help on that part?
[09:19] <zcat[1]> jimmy_: type "# this line is a comment in bash"
[09:19] <Yashy> http://hackepedia.org/?title=Partition
[09:19]  * zcat[1] imagines #wine will never be very effective as a command
[09:19] <jimmy_> zcat[1]:?
[09:20] <sayap_ikarus> yuyuuyiuy
[09:20] <zcat[1]> anything you type in bash that starts with # is a comment and is ignored
[09:20] <jimmy_> why would i have to run a commented command?
[09:20] <zcat[1]> I don't know.. not sure what hischild was suggesting there..
[09:21] <jimmy_> hischild: why did u suggest to run a comment?
[09:21] <hischild> jimmy_, i did not. I suggested you would try the channel of wine which i mistook for #wine instead of #winehq
[09:21] <hischild> zcat[1], ^
[09:21] <zcat[1]> jimmy_: Ahh.. you didn't say that :)
[09:22] <Filiph> hischild, I think so... i want one of 30gig, 80, 50, 20
[09:22] <sphinxx> hischild, its stuff like this that makes me overwhelmed
[09:22] <sphinxx> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=694198
[09:22] <Yashy> I suggest unicorns
[09:22] <Yashy> believe in them
[09:22] <suvir> connect
[09:23] <hischild> Filiph, alright. Then let's get to it.
[09:23] <Filiph> hischild, hehe, I'm ready :-D
[09:23] <hischild> Filiph, if you're sure you want to have a total of 4 partitions, you can create all primary.
[09:23]  * zcat[1] has never had much luck in wine .. I got ie6 installed with a script but it runs terribly.. and I got WoW to run.. nothing else ever works.
[09:24] <zcat[1]> come to think of it, I don't think ie6 runs that great in windows either :)
[09:24] <zcat[1]> .. but no, I'm sure it actually runs much worse in wine
[09:25] <Filiph> hischild, primary? there is only one for boot: C:\. rest is for games, media, temp, and rest for linux ;-)
[09:25] <sphinxx> i just installed noscript, should i allow youtube.com permanently?
[09:25] <lolfrenz> obviously
[09:25] <Yashy> http://hackepedia.org/?title=IRC
[09:25] <zcat[1]> sphinxx: I would.
[09:26] <hischild> Filiph, how many partitions do you want _TOTAL_ including linux partitions
[09:26] <Yashy> sphinxx: depends on your priorities?
[09:26] <Filiph> hischild, swap included?
[09:26] <sphinxx> on my windows machine i have firefox 3 beta 4, noscript isn't available for that yet right?
[09:26] <hischild> Filiph, yes
[09:26] <riesenpixel> hi
[09:27] <Filiph> hischild, 6 (six) ;-)
[09:27] <hischild> Filiph, then we'll create 3 primary partitions and 1 extended holding 3 logical partitions.
[09:28] <Filiph> hischild, ok
[09:28] <CaBa|> how do i provide an uncompressed kernel if a thinclient of mine doesnt support compressed kernel images?
[09:28] <CaBa|> can i umcompress it somehow or do i need compile it myself?
[09:29] <hischild> Filiph, so from the start after that warning => type n for new <enter>, type p for primary <enter>, <enter> for starting cylinder, type +<size in MB> <enter> for the size.
[09:30] <bsdnewb07> guys in ubuntu how can i find out how ram i have
[09:30] <Blinkiz> Am trying to install comerr-dev but apt-get get stuck when trying to install this package. What todo?
[09:30] <sphinxx> i just installed NOscript on my windows xp machine with firefox 3 beta
[09:30] <sphinxx> i marked youtube.com as trusted but it saying i need flash player when i go there now
[09:30] <jghryf327> bandeeeeeee deeeeeee boulettttttt
[09:30] <jghryf327> bandeeeeeee deeeeeee boulettttttt
[09:30] <jghryf327> bandeeeeeee deeeeeee boulettttttt
[09:30] <jghryf327> bandeeeeeee deeeeeee boulettttttt
[09:30] <kelvin911> how to write a script that can rename like a series of file?
[09:31] <sphinxx> nvmind i got it working
[09:31] <kelvin911> for example i want to rename 01.avi to 09.avi to like abc01.avi to abc09.avi
[09:31] <Filiph> hischild, partition number (1-4)?
[09:32] <DistroJockey> bsdnewb07: in a teminal, type:   less /proc/meminfo
[09:32] <hischild> Filiph, i'm sorry. For the first one type 1
[09:32] <Filiph> hischild, :-D
[09:33] <bsdnewb07> 2066496 kB
[09:33] <bsdnewb07> err
[09:33] <bsdnewb07> whats that in MB
[09:33] <IAMSAM> divide by 104
[09:33] <juzzy_> 1024
[09:33] <DistroJockey> bsdnewb07: that be 2GB
[09:33] <IAMSAM> 1024**
[09:33] <juzzy_> 2,066MB
[09:34] <bsdnewb07> ahh
[09:34] <bsdnewb07> wicked
[09:34] <DistroJockey> :)
[09:34] <mbs348> hey sorry for a slightly off topic question, but why do any of you think IRC is still so widely used when there is lots of other newfangled technologys communities could use to chat?
[09:34] <juzzy_> IRC is instant
[09:34] <bsdnewb07> mbs348: it used to, not any more
[09:34] <hischild> mbs348, it's easy to use, even for new people.
[09:35] <IAMSAM> all of the above
[09:35] <bsdnewb07> irc isnt as popular as it was about 5 years ago
[09:35] <Filiph> hischild, http://pastebin.com/m33833537
[09:35] <juzzy_> mbs348, why do you think usenet is still used? because it still works
[09:35] <mbs348> but do you think maybe it out of habit?
[09:35] <IAMSAM> plus, you can incorporate into chat rooms on websites easily
[09:35] <mbs348> ok cool
[09:35] <mbs348> thats a good answer
[09:35] <bsdnewb07> yeh java applets
[09:35] <mbs348> so its portable
[09:35] <juzzy_> mbs348, what else is out that is better than irc?
[09:35] <IAMSAM> exactly
[09:35] <hischild> Filiph, you should type +30000M
[09:35] <mbs348> thx
[09:35] <Blinkiz> Am trying to install comerr-dev but apt-get get stuck when trying to install this package. What todo?
[09:35] <Filiph> hischild, aah
[09:36] <bsdnewb07> Blinkiz what is the problem your getting
[09:36] <bullgard4> What mechanism appends to the name of a process a / and a digit, for example 'migration/0' or 'ata/0'?
[09:36] <juzzy_> Blinkiz, what does apt-get tell you?
[09:36] <keisangi> hi there
[09:36] <Blinkiz> bsdnewb07: juzzy_: I do not get any error. It just hangs. Pressing ctrl+c and the package is skipped. Problem is that it results in that other packages can't be configured.
[09:37] <bsdnewb07> how long do you leave it before escaping it?
[09:37] <IAMSAM> Blinkiz, which package?
[09:37] <LetterRip> hi Hoary doesn't mount my cdrom it appears
[09:37] <Blinkiz> bsdnewb07: maybe two minutes.
[09:37] <bsdnewb07> strange
[09:37] <Blinkiz> IAMSAM: comerr-dev
[09:37] <bsdnewb07> are you installing from terminal or a control panel like webmin or something?
[09:38] <LetterRip> anyone else have that issue?
[09:38] <IAMSAM> hm. Blinkiz, i had that issue with acidlab as well
[09:38] <LetterRip> or suggestions to try
[09:38] <Blinkiz> bsdnewb07: sudo apt-get install
[09:38] <bsdnewb07> very weird
[09:38] <bsdnewb07> try apt-get update
[09:38] <Filiph> hischild, http://pastebin.com/m2c6c1d28
[09:38] <IAMSAM> using hardy
[09:38] <keisangi> i was wondering how i can change compiz settings in hardy ? i clicked on "extra effects" it works well, but how can i change settings? like minimize animations, desktop cube and all the other goodies ?
[09:38] <LetterRip> er hardy i mean
[09:38] <kelvin911> anyone know how to rename more than 1 file?
[09:38] <zcat[1]> rename
[09:39] <hischild> Filiph, start from the beginning again.
[09:39] <kelvin911> rename 01.avi - 09.avi to a01.avi to a09.avi
[09:39] <Filiph> :-D
[09:39] <kelvin911> rename like 100 files
[09:39] <kelvin911> how to do that in one line?
[09:39] <zcat[1]> kelvin911:  I think  rename /^/a *.avi
[09:40] <Ignacius> is 8.04 a Beta??
[09:40] <zcat[1]> !hardy
[09:40] <IAMSAM> kelvin911, also might want to try mv 0*.avi a0*.avi
[09:40] <juzzy_> Yes
[09:40] <sidis405> so far yes.
[09:40] <zcat[1]> Oh...
[09:40] <zcat[1]> still no bot?
[09:40] <hischild> zcat[1], ubotu and ubotwo are dead :(
[09:40] <Filiph> done
[09:40] <Ignacius> and then release will be?
[09:40] <Filiph> hischild, done
[09:40] <zcat[1]> is ubotu a Beta?
[09:41] <kelvin911> what if i have files like 1.jpg, 2.jpg 003.jpg, 4.jpg  zz.jpg  want them to be like manga01.jpg to manga05.jpg
[09:41] <DistroJockey> Ignacius: 23 days hopefully
[09:41] <Ignacius> Ubotu is a biot
[09:41] <IAMSAM> ubuntu hardy is in beta zcat
[09:41] <Ignacius> bot
[09:41] <simplexio> kelvin911: rename
[09:41] <Ignacius> the release will be 8.10?
[09:41] <DistroJockey> Ignacius: nope 8.04
[09:41] <Filiph> hischild, http://pastebin.com/m5b4a2cb2
[09:41] <kelvin911> simplexio: rename them in 1 line
[09:41] <LetterRip> also there is no cdrom0 listed under my dev
[09:41] <dgjones> Ignacius, its due 28th April (I think)
[09:41] <Ignacius> ok, then
[09:41] <LetterRip> directory
[09:41] <hischild> Filiph, hit enter
[09:41] <Ignacius> cool
[09:41] <kelvin911> where they dont have names in common pattern
[09:41] <loseweigh> irc://ircchat.emule-project.net
[09:42] <Filiph> hischild, ok
[09:42] <DistroJockey> Ignacius: .04 = April, .10 = October
[09:42] <Ignacius> ohhh I know understand :)
[09:42] <DistroJockey> :)
[09:42] <zcat[1]> kelvin911: for that I would use "ls -1 *.jpg | { x=0 ; while read file ; do mv "$file" image_${x}.jpg ; x= $[ $x + 1 ]; done }
[09:42] <IAMSAM> I love the ubuntu versioning process :D
[09:42] <Ignacius> and 8 is year
[09:42] <DistroJockey> me too :)
[09:42] <aguy> how to disguise a promised tor-exit-node?
[09:42] <zcat[1]> or something like that
[09:43] <DistroJockey> yup :)
[09:43] <kelvin911> simplexio: like 00.jpg  1.jpg  2.jpg  003.jpg  a.jpg   gt.jpg  xx.jpg to aaa01.jpg to aaa07.jpg ?
[09:43] <Filiph> hischild, now the same but with nr°2?
[09:43] <Ignacius> ok, thanks
[09:43] <souper> ok, here's an apparently simple question: how do i disable the ubuntu splash screen? I like to see what is actually happening during boot.
[09:43] <sidis405> hey fellas, is anyone havin issues with ralink drivers on Hardy?
[09:43] <hischild> Filiph, yes.
[09:43] <hischild> Filiph, and with the third
[09:43] <aguy> anyone an idea here?
[09:43] <hischild> and with the fourth, give me a call
[09:43] <zcat[1]> sidis405: #ubuntu+1
[09:43] <IAMSAM> souper, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:43] <IAMSAM> and remove the option for quiet and splash
[09:44] <aguy> tor-node?
[09:44] <Filiph> hischild, third? for swap also prim?
[09:44] <IAMSAM> the run sudo update-grub
[09:44] <sidis405> thank you zcat[1]
[09:44] <aguy> no-one,
[09:44] <IAMSAM> aguy, what are you trying to do w. tor-node?
[09:44] <zcat[1]> actually haven't tried that card on hardy yet
[09:44] <hischild> Filiph, that's possible yes. We're just creating partitions now, whether they are primary or extended does not matter.
[09:44] <Smegzor> is it really necessary to run update-grub?  I never have and just editing menu.lst has always worked for me.
[09:45] <IAMSAM> hischild, primary should be boot, if you are putting it on a seperate partition
[09:45] <aguy> i just want to no if the tor-node is clear - no gov listening to it for eg.
[09:45] <IAMSAM> smegzor, yes, you have to, or the changes don't take effect
[09:45] <simplexio> kelvin911: rename s/^/manga/g * -n
[09:45] <zcat[1]> Smegzor: no, it's not necessary.. stage 1.5 is filesystem-aware and reads the menu.list
[09:45] <kelvin911> simplexio: rename /^/a *.avi doesnt work
[09:45] <DistroJockey> IAMSAM:  souper: update-grub should not be needed
[09:46] <Filiph> hischild, http://pastebin.com/m7f86debc
[09:46] <souper> IAMSAM, thanks i'll bback
[09:46] <Smegzor> IAMSAM: I am living proof that you're wrong :D
[09:46] <souper> DistroJockey, thanks as well
[09:46] <simplexio> maybe it nee 's/^/manga/g'
[09:46] <IAMSAM> it's recommended after all changes to the grub entries on all sites i've seen
[09:46] <DistroJockey> souper: np
[09:46] <zcat[1]> I have NEVER run anything after editing /boot/grub/menu.list
[09:46] <IAMSAM> good to know
[09:46] <IAMSAM> i stand corrected :)
[09:46] <zcat[1]> GRUB is not LILO
[09:46] <DistroJockey> IAMSAM: but it says "program used to generate the menu.lst"
[09:46] <IAMSAM> aguy, you just want to make sure that tor is an anonymous proxy, basically?
[09:47] <hischild> Filiph, type p and pastebin the output again please.
[09:47] <kelvin911> simplexio: still dont work
[09:47] <hischild> IAMSAM, from what i understand it'll just be a root partition, nothing special for the rest.
[09:47]  * DistroJockey agrees with zcat[1]
[09:47] <dibblego> if I want to record the image from a webcam, what is the recommended software?
[09:47] <IAMSAM> DistroJockey, hm, idk, when i add the options for data=writeback, the site said to run update-grub
[09:47] <Filiph> hischild, http://pastebin.com/d31115408
[09:47] <zcat[1]> dibblego: I'd probably use vlc
[09:48] <kelvin911> VLC can capture image from webcam?
[09:48] <hischild> IAMSAM, if you add them to the default options and not hte kernel line, that's true. When editing the kernel line directly, there's no need.
[09:48] <zcat[1]> mind you, I use vlc for far too many things
[09:48] <bertvdp> hi, can someone tell me how I can give instructions from one tty to another ?
[09:48] <kelvin911> what about video capture?
[09:48] <aguy> basically, yes
[09:48] <DistroJockey> IAMSAM: *shrugs* just looking at  man update-grub  it shouldn't be needed
[09:48] <zcat[1]> vlc can do all kinds of things
[09:48] <IAMSAM> hischild, gotcha, thank you for the clerification :)
[09:48] <aguy> basicaly yes
[09:48] <bullgard4> What mechanism appends to the name of a process a / and a digit, for example 'migration/0' or 'ata/0'?
[09:48] <kelvin911> how about capturing the screenshot?
[09:48] <hischild> IAMSAM, you're welcome
[09:48] <aguy> very basically....
[09:48] <kelvin911> capture the screen for 1 minute and save it as avi?
[09:48] <DistroJockey> hischild: ahh, I see
[09:49] <dibblego> zcat[1], does it require some kind of plugin?
[09:49] <zcat[1]> kelvin911: for watching things, 'motion' is aewsome..
[09:49] <IAMSAM> aguy, yes, tor is set up using anonymous servers, but not all, it's always a good idea to chain our proxies for full coverage
[09:49] <aguy> IAMSAM: its just the exit nodes that are a possible leak, i guess
[09:49] <souper> worked beautifully thanks very much
[09:49] <hischild> Filiph, you already used the second partition. delete the second and third, then do it again please. =)
[09:49] <kelvin911> zcat[1]: watching what?
[09:49] <kelvin911> zcat[1]: i uses vlc to watch movies and listening to music
[09:49] <zcat[1]> dibblego: not sure.. depends on the webcam possibly.. I have bt878 cards and analog cams here.. USB is a bit different I think
[09:50] <kelvin911> zcat[1]: only mplayer for realplayer
[09:50] <Viper111> guys my Ubuntu 6.06 LTS server is shutdowning down every time after about 2 hours of starting, any body can advice
[09:50] <hischild> Filiph, and be sure to only use a partition number once.
[09:50] <IAMSAM> DistroJunkie, have you used hard drive encryption on your / partition at all?
[09:50] <zcat[1]> sorry.. for monitoring/security of the webcam, motion is cool..
[09:50] <sphinxx> can i have gnome and xfce running simultaneously
[09:50] <hischild> also a general question: usually a disc can only have 4 primary partitions. His fdisk tells him he can use 8 primary partitions. Is there a reason as to why?
[09:50] <IAMSAM> Viper111, can you get to your system logs?
[09:50] <DistroJockey> IAMSAM: DistroJunkie hehe I like that name too ;)
[09:50] <Filiph> hischild, yes I did... eh how to delete? :-p :-S
[09:50] <sphinxx> like so i can switch between them in the bottom right
[09:50] <DistroJockey> IAMSAM: nope
[09:50] <aguy> IAMSAM couldn't one determine HIS own exit-node and test it somehow?
[09:50] <IAMSAM> DistroJockey, sry =/
[09:51] <DistroJockey> IAMSAM: np :)
[09:51] <Filiph> hischild, ok it's good
[09:51] <IAMSAM> aguy, i'm not sure, that's best for googling =/
[09:51] <hischild> Filiph, for the 4th primary partition, instead of primary, make it extended and make it cover the free space that is left.
[09:51] <aguy> of course... i did a little already, wanted to give reading a break
[09:51] <sphinxx> i went to do this command and it said 'this aptitude does not have super cow powers"
[09:51] <IAMSAM> DistroJockey, i've noticed tremendous lag in read write, causing horrendous system lags... I reccomend against it :p
[09:51] <aguy> see you
[09:51] <sphinxx> sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop
[09:52] <DistroJockey> IAMSAM: yeah, doesn't sound like a good idea
[09:52] <hischild> sphinxx, you've probably made a type with install. Try it again.
[09:52] <zcat[1]> aptitude doesn't have super-cow powers .. only apt does
[09:52] <hischild> zcat[1], orly?
[09:52] <souper> what about portege?
[09:52] <hischild> *portage
[09:52] <zloy> здрасте
[09:52] <zloy> все
[09:52] <Filiph> hischild,  why 4th? I want only 2 boot partitions..; or is that not what I think?
[09:52]  * souper stands corrected
[09:52] <zcat[1]> hischild: you know one that does?
[09:52] <hischild> zcat[1], not really
[09:52] <IAMSAM> DistroJockey, yeah, today's project will be a full reinstall of Hardy. btw, do you know when or if Hardy will ever get the mondo package to be installable?
[09:53] <hischild> Filiph, the 2 boot partitions (your root and the windows c:) should be primary partitions. The rest does not matter. In the extended partition we're going to create some more partitions.
[09:53] <zcat[1]> zcat@mandela:~$ aptitude moo
[09:53] <zcat[1]> There are no Easter Eggs in this program.
[09:53] <zcat[1]> haha
[09:53] <hischild> IAMSAM, you're going to install hardy? good luck :-) works like a charm here
[09:54] <DistroJockey> IAMSAM: I may take a look at that package though as I am running Hardy atm. What's it for?
[09:54] <souper> What is the best method to upgrade from i386 gutsy to x64_32 hardy?
[09:54] <juzzy_> lol i don't think you can souper
[09:54] <IAMSAM> hischild, i've been using it since it came out as alpha, only downside is i used twofish hard drive encryption, and it slowed the system down too much, so I will be reinstalling when I get out of here
[09:54] <souper> it's possible
[09:54] <juzzy_> format? :P
[09:54] <souper> well that would be my fallback
[09:54] <hischild> IAMSAM, i see. I really like it (just broke it a couple dozen times)
[09:55] <Filiph> hischild, is that good? http://pastebin.com/d4e71848b
[09:55] <hischild> souper, from what i understand, the differences are much to large to be able to upgrade in the way you want to.
[09:55] <juzzy_> I'm just trying to fix my mythbuntu install, went from 7.10 to 8.04 and now it won't boot
[09:55] <juzzy_> :(
[09:55] <hischild> Filiph, if you type p i can understand what you did =)
[09:55] <IAMSAM> DistroJockey, it allows you to take basically an image of your computer in it's current state, and if (God forbid) your system dies, you can use that disk to nuke the partitions and set it up again just like it was, w. out the need to install individual packages again
[09:55] <IAMSAM> it's nice
[09:55] <souper> well will the configurations stored in my home partition still hold true?
[09:56] <IAMSAM> hischild, yeah my sound broke after ubuntustudio-audio was installed, i learned to stay away from that for a while :p
[09:56] <hischild> IAMSAM, haha ... i understand then yh ...
[09:56] <souper> because i suppose that's really only what's important
[09:56] <hischild> IAMSAM, though i am very pleased with the current state of fluxbox with hardy
[09:56] <IAMSAM> jussy_ any error messages on boot?
[09:56] <Filiph> hischild, http://pastebin.com/d52fcd302
[09:56] <DistroJockey> IAMSAM: ahh, cool
[09:57] <juzzy_> IAMSAM, none
[09:57] <IAMSAM> hischild, orly? i may have to look into it... xfce is going downhill :(
[09:57] <juzzy_> IAMSAM, it goes to the boot screen (mythbuntu logo) and then drops out 2mins later
[09:57] <juzzy_> IAMSAM, then it comes to a screen with Busybox 1.1.3 on it saying initramfs
[09:57] <juzzy_> Then eventually just blanks out like 10mins later
[09:57] <DistroJockey> IAMSAM: You may like to check out remastersys also then
[09:57] <hischild> IAMSAM, i use conky (i know...) for monitoring stuff, along with wmbattery and nm-applet ... i'm still editing the conky thing though, not happy with it yet
[09:58] <DistroJockey> IAMSAM: does the same, but makes a live CD
[09:58] <IAMSAM> juzzy_ when the system starts, hit esc to get to the grub menu, edit the kernel line in the first entry so it does not have the splash and quiet options, then you should have an error
[09:58] <hischild> Filiph, copy the entire screen, including the next prompt please.
[09:58] <juzzy_> IAMSAM, ta
[09:58] <hischild> Filiph, i don't mind reading through a bit of text to find what i'm looking for =)
[09:59] <IAMSAM> DIstroJockey, yeah, i've heard of that, but basically modo doesn't give you the live cd, it's just a back up tool :) it allows the fixing of individual files, or to nuke your entire system, and replace it w. the copy you made
[09:59] <Viper111> IAMSAM yes i can get
[09:59] <DistroJockey> IAMSAM: fair enough
[09:59] <hischild> IAMSAM, can i also not backup certain folders? (i got about 40gb of video files i don't need backed up again)
[09:59] <Finnish> How do I make a backup-copy of xconf?
[10:00] <IAMSAM> Viper111, check to see what is happening right before the system shuts down, there should be an entry in the logs to help us out a little
[10:00] <DistroJockey> Finnish: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[10:00] <IAMSAM> hischild, yeah, mondo is curses based and allows for excusion of file types and entire directories :)
[10:00] <Viper111> IAMSAM which log file i'l see
[10:01] <IAMSAM> DistroJockey, I'm going to check out remastersys though, so I can get a copy of Ubuntu for my neighbors to use
[10:01] <hischild> IAMSAM, then it just sounds awesome. Usable from a running system i assume? because now it is starting to sound very interesting.
[10:01] <Finnish> DistroJockey: And for the future, how do I bring it when i need it?
[10:01] <Filiph> hischild, ok terminal copied... ;-) http://pastebin.com/m43380db
[10:01] <IAMSAM> Viper111, check the syslog
[10:02] <hischild> Filiph, what did you do to to close it in between? hit ctrl c?
[10:02] <DistroJockey> IAMSAM: :)
[10:02] <souper> here, i just want to simplify this question for clarity: will the various configs etc. in my home partition still function the same way if a upgrade the architecture(/ format included) of the os?
[10:02] <IAMSAM> hischild, yep, usable from running system... but it doesn't make a livecd like remastersys does, it is just for an emergency recovery
[10:02] <IAMSAM> works on NTFS partions too (douple edged sword)
[10:02] <Smegzor> I bought some FOSS friendly toilet paper today.. it has penguins all over it! :D
[10:02] <hischild> IAMSAM, hmm ... so basically remastersys is a bit better etc?
[10:02] <DistroJockey> Finnish: if you wan't to restore it, use:  sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:03] <Filiph> hischild,  I cant copy more, they said that I am a spammer :-S
[10:03] <souper> wow that doesn't sound so clear all of the sudden
[10:03] <Smegzor> hmm..  better not let those Microsoft fanboys find out :O
[10:03] <Finnish> DistroJockey: Thanks
[10:03] <DistroJockey> Finnish: you're welcome
[10:03] <IAMSAM> hischild, they are two totally different tools, remastersys is for a livecd to try/install... mondo is just for "OMG I KILLED MY SYSTEM I NEED TO FIX IT!!!"
[10:03] <IAMSAM> heh
[10:03] <juzzy_> IAMSAM, found the part it stops on "Begin: Waiting for root file system..."
[10:03] <hischild> Filiph, where, pastebin? haha yeah you're posting quite a bit there but that's ok. We can do it via the channel :-) (don't paste here though)
[10:04] <IAMSAM> juzzy_ hm, do you have a knoppix or other livecd you can boot?
[10:04] <juzzy_> I could probably boot an unbuntu live cd..
[10:04] <IAMSAM> juzzy_ that would work too ;)
[10:04] <IAMSAM> we want to check the logs to see why it's not finding your root partition
[10:04] <juzzy_> Might have to download and burn one, but that won't take long
[10:04] <hischild> Filiph, let's take it the easy way ... kill fdisk and fire up gparted or qtparted (you may have to install those)
[10:05] <IAMSAM> it's 5am here, i have all day :p
[10:05] <juzzy_> haha
[10:05] <juzzy_> Its 7:35pm here
[10:05] <IAMSAM> haha
[10:05] <juzzy_> and i'm on holidays
[10:05] <juzzy_> so i have all week :P
[10:05] <FloodBot1> juzzy_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:05] <hischild> IAMSAM, mhh only 11am here :P
[10:05] <hischild> juzzy_, :O you spammer :P
[10:05] <Simiil> its 11 am
[10:05] <juzzy_> I'm sorry mr bot mang!
[10:05] <Filiph> hischild, wait i'm trying...
[10:05] <juzzy_> :P
[10:05] <Simiil> and holidayz!!
[10:05] <Smegzor> 10pm Tuesday here. Its hard living in the future :)
[10:05] <IAMSAM> hischild, or DistroJockey, can you inform me of how to register a name?
[10:05] <juzzy_> ENTER IS PUNCTUATION!!!!!!
[10:06] <hischild> IAMSAM, yes i think we can. Try /msg nickserv help =)
[10:06] <juzzy_> Telstraclear.net Smegzor ?!?
[10:06] <IAMSAM> sweet, thanks :)
[10:06] <IAMSAM> new to IRC
[10:06] <Smegzor> NZ
[10:06] <hischild> IAMSAM, np =)
[10:06] <pawan> hi
[10:06] <Filiph> hischild, is there other service like pastebin?
[10:06] <juzzy_> Damn kiwis!
[10:06] <juzzy_> :P
[10:06] <pawan> when is the new version coming out
[10:06] <Smegzor> arr
[10:06] <souper> rephrase: I want to reformat the main partition and upgrade the architecture. all my settings(etc) are saved in my /home (separate) partition. Will there be any migration work?
[10:06] <hischild> Filiph, use gparted or qtparted. They're easier for you to use.
[10:07]  * juzzy_ goes to find a live cd
[10:07] <xp_prg> does ubuntu have the concept of lvcreate?
[10:07] <IAMSAM> hischild, uhm, that had nickserv say help
[10:07] <IAMSAM> lol
[10:07] <Filiph> hischild, gnome partition editor?
[10:07] <DistroJockey> hehe
[10:07] <juzzy_> IAMSAM, Check root = bootarg caty /p[roc/cmdline
[10:07] <IAMSAM> filiph, i recommend gparted personally ;)
[10:07] <hischild> IAMSAM, it did for you? i got a shitload of txt back. Try /msg nickserv register.
[10:07] <hischild> Filiph, yes.
[10:08] <hischild> IAMSAM, that's gparted :P
[10:08] <FloodBot1> hischild: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:08] <souper> jesus christ i figured this to be a simple question
[10:08] <hischild> no you floodbot i like spamming!
[10:08] <Filiph> IAMSAM, ah ok thx! :-)
[10:08] <juzzy_> IAMSAM, Alert /dev/disk/by-uuid/<-spam> does not exist
[10:08] <fraroco> hello,
[10:09] <IAMSAM> juzzy_ there's the problem :)
[10:09] <IAMSAM> it's not seeing your disk
[10:09] <Filiph> hischild, AAAAAAAAHHH much better!
[10:09] <juzzy_> I sorta gathered that :P
[10:09] <juzzy_> What would be the cause?
[10:09] <juzzy_> I updated LOOOTS of packages
[10:09] <Smegzor> souper: I did that recently and I've had to reinstall quite a few programs, but I've lost no settings.
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[10:09] <IAMSAM> juzzy_ do you have aim, until i figure out how to register my name in here
[10:09] <souper> ok
[10:09] <juzzy_> Nah, only msn
[10:09] <souper> Smegzor, thank you
[10:10] <fraroco> how could I change the name of a list of files just leaving the last 4 characters before the extension?
[10:10] <hischild> Filiph, good luck ;-)
[10:10] <Filiph> thx, i'm already trying
[10:10] <dgjones> IAMSAM, This should help you - Freenode recommends setting up your nick in this fashion: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> fraroco: so testtestkolf.bmp would become tkolf.bmp?
[10:10] <Smegzor> i did a few things before the reinstall.  I backed everything up and ran a command that dumped all my installed packages to a text file.
[10:10] <souper> Smegzor, I knew i was going to have to reinstall alot but I was hoping that at least my settings and cache's would be saved
[10:11] <cha0s> can anyone tell me how to do this: gdb -batch -x .gdbcomm ./server >> lucius.log 2>&1
[10:11] <cha0s> so that gdb still accepts my keyboard input?
[10:11] <juzzy_> IAMSAM, /msg nickserv register <password>
[10:11] <fraroco> ActionParsnip, Yeas I mean that ...
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> fraroco: let me google
[10:12] <souper> well i guess my question is if the actual binaries and libraries are independent of whats stored in the home directory
[10:12] <Smegzor> I've lost no browser stuff or anything settings wise.  A few things have broken but I can't be sure the reinstall broke them.  I can't change my wallpaper (these are critical problems!) ;)
[10:12] <TheOneAndOnly> juzzy_ for some reason, it just echos the output after nickserv
[10:12] <fraroco> thks ... I did not know how to google for that Question ... ActionParsnip
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> fraroco: is it a common start name or are they all different
[10:13] <souper> or rather vica versa
[10:13] <TUplink> im stumped...... how do i turn my volume up?   i think im using oss
[10:13] <juzzy_> TheOneAndOnly, it seems you have an old version of xchat :/
[10:13] <TheOneAndOnly> juzzy_ it's the latest version on hardy :(
[10:13] <juzzy_> >.>
[10:13] <fraroco> they are all different, ActionParsnip
[10:13] <juzzy_> -TheOneAndOnly- VERSION xchat 0.18 Linux 2.6.24-12-generic [i686]
[10:13] <TheOneAndOnly> juzzy_ xchat_gnome... might make the diff
[10:13] <juzzy_> -juzzy_- VERSION xchat 2.8.4 Ubuntu
[10:13] <hischild> juzzy_, i also use the latest one.
[10:14] <sphinxx> how come my user name is not part of the 'admin' group
[10:14] <bsdnewb07> why would it
[10:14] <juzzy_> -hischild- VERSION xchat 2.8.4 Ubuntu
[10:14] <sphinxx> instead it is part of the 'john' group, which is the username
[10:14] <souper> it shouldn't be
[10:14] <bsdnewb07> add it yourself
[10:14] <juzzy_> hmm
[10:14] <souper> it should be part of the sudo group
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> sphinxx: its so you have to sudo / gksudo admin tasks
[10:14] <NetUser_1> hi to the room
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> hi NetUser_1
[10:14] <bsdnewb07> is it in the sudoers file?
[10:14] <hischild> juzzy_, i'm using the latest one on hardy
[10:14] <juzzy_> either way you should be able to /msg nickserv register password TheOneAndOnly
[10:14] <TheOneAndOnly> hi NetUser_1
[10:14] <juzzy_> same hischild
[10:15] <bsdnewb07> is this a fresh install souper?
[10:15] <bsdnewb07> i had the same prob, you have to boot in recovery mode to add urself to the sudoers file
[10:15] <souper> bsdnewb07, what do you mean?
[10:15] <bsdnewb07> is this a fresh install?
[10:16] <souper> from a fresh install my username was in the sudo group
[10:17] <souper> strike that
[10:17] <souper> admin group
[10:17] <NetUser_1> i cannot boot my pc(grub error and a god knows what else-non fixable-) is there any way to learn my email passwords stored in pigdin through live cd?
[10:17]  * souper was thinking of a different distro
[10:17] <TheOneAndOnly> NetUser_1
[10:17] <TheOneAndOnly> yes
[10:17] <Filiph> hischild, OK Nice!! hope it wil work
[10:17] <fraroco> how could I change the name of a list of files just leaving the last 4 characters before the extension?
[10:17] <TUplink> is there a way to turn up the volume.... with OSS from the command line?
[10:18] <Blinds> a
[10:18] <NetUser_1> TheOneAndOnly:how?
[10:18] <compwiz18> NetUser_1: yes, you can use the live cd and then mount the drive with your home directory on it, then find the .purple folder, which contains all your pidgin passwords
[10:18] <Blinds> :)
[10:18] <compwiz18> NetUser_1: if you need any help with that, we're very happy to provide more specifics :)
[10:18] <netro_> hi all
[10:18] <compwiz18> !hi
[10:18] <NetUser_1> compwiz18: probably i'll need it ...
[10:19] <krupa^> hello all! hello..! i have server that used for my php development.. i have already ubuntu 7.10 on him. i saw there is ubuntu server edition.. what is the diffrents? is it better to install the server edition? ... thanks!
[10:19] <hischild> compwiz18, ubotu and ubotwu are dead
[10:19] <TheOneAndOnly> NetUser_1, i'm looking, pidgin stores your pw's in plain text, i'm just not sure where
[10:19] <compwiz18> NetUser_1: sure.  first, boot the cd and tell us when you get there :)
[10:19] <compwiz18> hischild: ah
[10:19] <compwiz18> TheOneAndOnly: it's in .purple
[10:19] <TUplink> i need to increse volume.........
[10:20] <NetUser_1> compwiz18: unfortunately i dont have my pc with me right now....
[10:20] <compwiz18> TheOneAndOnly: ~/.purple/accounts.xml, it would appear
[10:20] <netro_> irc through telnet sure is inconvenient...
[10:20] <TheOneAndOnly> haha, that's what i thought, ty compwiz18
[10:20] <compwiz18> TheOneAndOnly: it took me forever to figure out that pidgin puts stuff in .purple ;)
[10:20] <compwiz18> .pidgin would be far to obvious, I guess :P
[10:21] <hischild> compwiz18, i compiled gfire (xfire for pidgin) ... try to find out where to put it :P
[10:21] <juzzy_> Its not like .purple is cryptic
[10:21] <compwiz18> true, but it isn't obvious either
[10:21] <juzzy_> I hate that damn pidgeon too :P
[10:21] <NetUser_1> compwiz18: how do i mount and which directory specific?
[10:21] <compwiz18> turns out there is libpurple that is pidgin's backend
[10:21] <askand> What is the name of the hidden file I have to put on my MTP-player to show it in rhythmbox?
[10:21] <fraroco> how could I change the name of a list of files just leaving the last 4 characters before the extension?
[10:21] <TheOneAndOnly> NetUser_1. it's in the /home/youruser directory
[10:21] <compwiz18> NetUser_1: there should be some drives listed on the desktop, click on them until you find one that has a /home folder in it
[10:22] <Ward1983_> why would a school block IRC...
[10:22]  * Ward1983_ = pissed off
[10:22] <cha0s> yeah, purple runs on multiple platforms, and it isn't 'pidgin' on mac for instance, but maybe you'd want to use a cenral .pidgin directory for all your platforms to keep your logs/configuration consistent
[10:22] <compwiz18> NetUser_1: click the home folder, then click your username
[10:22] <eth01> most schools do :)
[10:22] <cha0s> .purple directory xD
[10:22] <compwiz18> so that students actually work?
[10:23] <eth01> the isp's we actually provide schools with internet access, sometimes block it from their side anyhowl.
[10:23] <eth01> anyhow, even
[10:23] <compwiz18> NetUser_1: you'll have to enable hidden folders (press ctrl+h in the file browser) and then find the folder called .purple
[10:23] <hischild> compwiz18, yes. That's why i use my laptop and some wireless network that is around there
[10:23] <terminal> can anyone suggest m d setting of software sources
[10:23] <Ward1983_> compwiz18, i need support... i am doing all they ask of me at the moment
[10:23] <eth01> which * !
[10:23] <Ward1983_> hischild, try using port 8000, zorks too
[10:23] <NetUser_1> compwiz18: and then (i am a bit newbe...)
[10:23] <Ward1983_> if its open at school
[10:23] <compwiz18> NetUser_1: then you'll want to find the file called accounts.xml
[10:23] <hischild> Ward1983_, i still prefer my laptop :-) has everything set up like i want it to ;-)
[10:24] <DragonLotus> hey all I just installed the restrictive drivers for the ATI cards to get direct rendering enabled in ubuntu gutsy and now fglrx is giving me errors.
[10:24] <compwiz18> NetUser_1: double click it, and you'll see a bunch of stuff -- I think you can probably figure out what your passwords are (they'll be in something like <password>mysupersecretpassword</password>
[10:24] <compwiz18> )
[10:24] <Ward1983_> hischild, me too, but i mean maybe you dont need to use another network
[10:24] <Ward1983_> hischild, 8000 works fine here
[10:25] <compwiz18> mibbit works great too
[10:25] <bsdnewb07> how do i make a coloured motd?
[10:25] <hischild> Ward1983_, well i'm not allowed to use my laptop on the school network anyway ... because i'm running ubuntu and they don't know that
[10:25] <bsdnewb07> or colour directorys on ssh terminal
[10:25] <terminal> can anyone suggest m d setting of software sources
[10:25] <Ward1983_> anyway, i cant change my resolution anymore, it seems it happened when i connected another monitor
[10:25] <Ward1983_> hischild, over here ubuntu is ok :)
[10:26] <hischild> Ward1983_, well my school is in the top 10 of spammers of the netherlands because they didn't have a strict policy .. :P they changed the policy to very uber strict... :(
[10:26] <terminal> when i run apt-cache search wine oss i got nothing
[10:26] <TheOneAndOnly> hischild, my work forbids us from bringing laptops after me and 2 other guys brought our ubuntu boxes in :(
[10:26] <Ward1983_> hischild, which school if i may ask? im living in belgium
[10:26] <compwiz18> NetUser_1: that should be it; if you have any more questions about it, feel free to ask :)
[10:27] <hischild> TheOneAndOnly, that sux tbqh
[10:27] <netro_> misnix: aaah a dutch companion
[10:27] <hischild> Ward1983_, REA College in hoensbroek
[10:27] <JanPeter> nederlander
[10:27] <hischild> TheOneAndOnly, well if they even try to forbit me using my laptop i'm gonna freak out on em :P
[10:28] <Ward1983_> hischild, ah dunno it, i live in limburg :)
[10:28] <netro_> veel nederlanders hier maar zullen we het weer engels houden / a lot of dutch people here but let's stick to english
[10:28] <terminal> when i run apt-cache search wine oss i got nothing
[10:28] <TheOneAndOnly> hischild, haha, my school can't tell me no, i'd be like, i have to have it...
[10:28] <eth01> terminal: what do you want?
[10:28] <hischild> Ward1983_, it's near heerlen ...
[10:28] <Ward1983_> netro_, did i speak dutch?
[10:28] <NetUser_1> compwiz18:but won't i need something like root privileges to get into my accounts files?
[10:28] <eth01> terminal: you'll need to add the wine repo to sources.list in /etc/apt
[10:28] <compwiz18> NetUser_1: since you're on the livecd, you shouldn't
[10:29] <hischild> netro_, we're not interested what language you want to keep it to.
[10:29] <terminal> eth01:i want 2 install audio driver oss
[10:29] <compwiz18> NetUser_1: if you do for some reason though, you can run gksudo nautilus in the terminal, which will get you a root file browser
[10:29] <Ward1983_> english are rules but we didnt breqk them, we talked english and used dutch placenames
[10:30] <JanPeter> why must you speak english? kind of weird rule..
[10:30] <JanPeter> i'm not dutch but i speak a little
[10:30] <Ward1983_> JanPeter, for dutch you can go to #ubuntu-nl :)
[10:30] <compwiz18> JanPeter: we have other channels for non-english support
[10:30] <hischild> JanPeter, because this is an english channel, not a dutch one. There's #ubuntu-nl for the dutch ppl.
[10:30] <terminal> eth01:how
[10:30] <eth01> JanPeter: i speak welsh, german and latin! but, this channel is English for a reason -- so that everybody understands each other properly.
[10:31] <terminal> eth01:how
[10:31] <Ward1983_> eth01, he did not know about the other channels i presume
[10:31] <hischild> terminal, don't repeat yourself that fast. He'll have seen your first question and respond to that one.
[10:31] <eth01> terminal: you don't need to ask twice?
[10:32] <terminal> eth01: sryyyyyyyyyy
[10:32] <eth01> terminal: you on 7.10 ?
[10:32] <Christoz> hello how can i format an unlocated part of hard drive (free space) to install slackware?
[10:32] <terminal> ya
[10:32] <negge> Christoz you can use GParted
[10:33] <eth01> terminal: sudo wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/gutsy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list
[10:33] <Christoz> i've downloaded but i was expecting a 2d interface
[10:33] <compwiz18> 2d interface?
[10:33] <Christoz> i mean gparted
[10:33] <negge> Christoz  you mean a GUI?
[10:33] <eth01> terminal: sudo apt-get update; apt-cache search wine foofoofoo
[10:33] <Christoz> actually i don't know how to use it
[10:34] <Christoz> yes
[10:34] <compwiz18> Christoz: gparted should give you a GUI
[10:34] <negge> Christoz there's a GUI for gparted
[10:34] <compwiz18> Christoz: the GUI is in System -> Administration
[10:34] <hischild> eth01, don't you have to execute 2 commands for it?
[10:34] <Christoz> i have the gparted live cd
[10:34] <negge> yeah, and if you use KDE it's under System --> Partition Editor
[10:34] <eth01> hischild: update first, and then search for whatever :)
[10:34] <troofy> what things to keep in mind before buying a .com?
[10:34] <NetUser_1> compwiz18: ...and so the drive icons are the file manager...and since i find the accounts.xml i just "find" the word password.but won't they be encrypted or something?
[10:34] <negge> Christoz  you don't need the live cd for this one I think
[10:34] <eth01> troofy: #web
[10:35] <hischild> eth01, i meant before you can install it properly i meant ... before it shows up properly in the repo's
[10:35] <FBIGuy> uh live cd is just running ubuntu without installing or changing any files right?
[10:35] <troofy> k
[10:35] <sphinxx> whats the fastest you guys can beat mahjonhg (map difficulty)
[10:35] <negge> FBIGuy  yes
[10:35] <compwiz18> NetUser_1: they can't be encrypted, otherwise you'd have to type a password in every time you wanted to login to your accounts
[10:35] <eth01> hischild: he wanted a particular package
[10:35] <FBIGuy> k
[10:35] <FBIGuy> just checking
[10:35] <negge> hehe
[10:35]  * FBIGuy sticks ubuntu stickers on everyone
[10:35] <hischild> eth01, hmm i trust you know what you're doing =) i gotta run ... good luck ^_^
[10:35] <Ward1983_> any specific channel for video trouble? (cant change resolution anymore since a second monitor is added)
[10:36] <eth01> hischild: :)
[10:36] <TheOneAndOnly> Ward1983, what ver of ubuntu?
[10:36] <MatBoy> Mhh, my gnome is so slow on my softwareraid these days
[10:36] <FBIGuy> also do i have to boot from cd
[10:37] <NetUser_1> compwiz18: ...propably so it just works like a common text file,no other worries?
[10:37] <compwiz18> NetUser_1: yep
[10:37] <compwiz18> NetUser_1: if you find the file, you're all set
[10:37] <pen> hi
[10:37] <compwiz18> hi pen
[10:37] <NetUser_1> compwiz18 you are a life savor thnx!
[10:38] <compwiz18> NetUser_1: good luck and hope that works for you :)
[10:38] <pen> Is there a program providing a sandbox environement so that whatever changes I made will not be saved and can be undo later?
[10:38] <pen> compwiz18: hey
[10:39] <agalavis> hello, anybody knows how keep evolution checking mail without keeping the main window open? i would like to keep it in the notification area if it's possible to avoid minimizing
[10:39] <Christoz> the ubuntu's  partition editor doesn't let me to create more than 4 partition ...considering i have 3 ext3 and 1 ntfs
[10:39] <TheOneAndOnly> Chistoz, you have to make them extended partitions
[10:39] <compwiz18> Christoz: it's a limitation, you have to make extended partitions
[10:40] <geirha> Christoz: yes, four is the maximum, however, you can create an extended partition which you in turn can many logical partitions in
[10:40] <Ward1983_> TheOneAndOnly, 7.10 sorry
[10:40] <MatBoy> are there already new nvidia drivers for 64 bits ?
[10:40] <Ward1983_> TheOneAndOnly, it was hectic for a moment
[10:40] <TheOneAndOnly> Ward1983, I saw that :p
[10:40] <TheOneAndOnly> no worries
[10:41] <redheat> hi everyone
[10:41] <Christoz> i've unlocated 30 gb from ntfs ...so what should i do...can you expain the benefits and non benefits of extended?
[10:41] <redheat> some help around here would be appreciated please
[10:41] <redheat> I'm trying to partition my harddrive for the ubuntu and opensuse installation
[10:41] <Christoz> in other words i don't understand it
[10:42] <redheat> I already have two primary partitions for both of my windows editions, windows xp, and windows vista
[10:42] <redheat> the space left I have chosen to make it an extended partition
[10:42] <redheat> within that extended partition I'm creating logical drives
[10:43] <geirha> Christoz: if you have 4 partitions you have to delete one, and make an extended partition in its place
[10:43] <redheat> extended partitions was given the number 3, while the first logical partition created in that extended partition was given the number 5 how come?
[10:43] <redheat> why is number 4 missing
[10:43] <majikins> hi does anyone know how to start an application up with maximised window from command line?
[10:44] <redheat> folks..anyone please
[10:44] <erUSUL> redheat: number 4 is reserverd for the 4th primary partition
[10:44] <redheat> please some help
[10:44] <TheOneAndOnly> redheat, patience is a virtue, friend
[10:44] <redheat> 4 primary partiton, but  iwasn't lainning
[10:44] <redheat> ok, sorry about that..
[10:44] <redheat> truly apolgozie
[10:44] <majikins> ie I don't want the previous window size to be remembered
[10:44] <TheOneAndOnly> no worries mate
[10:44] <erUSUL> redheat: all logical partitions start numbered at 5
[10:44] <redheat> didn't see your answer til lyou wrote it
[10:44] <negge> redheat  and Christoz : I would just leave the space where you'll be installing ubuntu/suse/whatever unformatted
[10:45] <Daniel^> when doing netstat -a , what is the command to print the linecount instead of the connections?
[10:45] <negge> then you just point the installer to use that free space and it will partition everything automatically for you..
[10:45] <geirha> agalavis: I think the package «mail-notification-evolution» is the one you want to install, I haven't tried it, but I think it's a panel-applet that checks for mail, and opens evolution if you click on it
[10:45] <negge> atleast that's how I did it yesterday on a friends computer
[10:45] <TheOneAndOnly> redheat, i'm looking for the answer as to WHY it does that, but I can tell you, it's nothing to worry about, logical volumes skip a number for some reason
[10:45] <MatBoy> does someone know what the latest binary driver of Nvidia is ?
[10:45] <MatBoy> I'm running 100.14.19
[10:46] <redheat> negge, the problem with that choice, if I tried to let any of the two OS to do that, they gulp all the unformatted space for themselves leaving none to the other one
[10:46] <Christoz> brb
[10:46] <TheOneAndOnly> negge, that's a good way to do it, except some people like to set the partions up themselves... seperate /home /tmp /boot etc
[10:46] <redheat> actually, I just tried that with ubuntu and it did that..
[10:47] <redheat> TheOneAndOnly, all I create for any of the two partitions is the root partitoin, I never do that home thingy
[10:47] <redheat> negge, when you said that free space, did you mean I should leave free space within an extended partition, or outside of it..
[10:47] <redheat> because these two options are world apart..
[10:48] <TheOneAndOnly> redheat, i think he's assuming you have unallocated space that doesn't have any partions set on it yet, it is just a blank disk space
[10:48] <TheOneAndOnly> if you have that, ubuntu can use that, and should set the partions up automatically
[10:48] <TheOneAndOnly> like he said
[10:48] <TheOneAndOnly> they*
[10:49] <redheat> TheOneAndOnly, by the way there's an awesome, article on neosmart.net about the numbering of harddrives on both linux and windows
[10:49] <kjdx> There is a webmin as compatible with ubuntu server ?
[10:50] <redheat> TheOneAndOnly, try this webpage...http://neosmart.net/forums/showthread.php?p=15850#post15850
[10:50] <rewati> hi there i am not gettin sound on my laptop but my headphone is workin fine and i can get sound through my head fone
[10:50] <rewati> can anybudy help me
[10:50] <rewati> hi there i am not gettin sound on my laptop but my headphone is workin fine and i can get sound through my head fone
[10:50] <rewati> can anybudy help me
[10:51] <majikins> hi does anyone know how I can start up an application maximised or at certain part of screen?
[10:51] <redheat> TheOneAndOnly, http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/EBCD/EasyBCD+Documentation+Home;jsessionid=D66A0BBA9D3CF62DCDE5DA927E804049
[10:51] <erUSUL> MatBoy: that's the last version aviable for gutsy 7.10
[10:51] <Neillithan> Hi, I am having some trouble with Ubuntu.  I installed Ubuntu 8.04 from the AMD64 Alternative CD, and when it finished, I popped out the CD and it says "No operating system was detected"  I did some searching on the net and people are saying that it may be the grub boot loader.  Help?
[10:51] <redheat> that's a good tutorial on everything linux..
[10:51] <erUSUL> !hardy | Neillithan
[10:52] <rewati> can anybudy help me
[10:52] <TheOneAndOnly> Neillithan, did you use the livecd or the alternate?
[10:52] <Neillithan> erUSUL: ?
[10:52] <erUSUL> Neillithan: #ubuntu+1 please; hardy is still *BETA*
[10:52] <sami> Hi, is anyone of you guys any good at cdrom-detect?
[10:52] <Michael__> Can i please get some help installing ubuntu 7.04 onto a inspiron 1520 with text mode installation?
[10:52] <Neillithan> TheOneAndOnly: I used the alternate becuase livecd freezes during the installation.
[10:53] <rewati> can anybudy help me
[10:53] <TheOneAndOnly> Neillithan: do you still have the livecd?
[10:53] <rewati> hi there i am not gettin sound on my laptop but my headphone is workin fine and i can get sound through my head fone
[10:53] <Neillithan> TheOneAndOnly: yes
[10:53] <Michael__> I just need help repartitioning to install a grub loader
[10:53] <rewati> hi there i am not gettin sound on my laptop but my headphone is workin fine and i can get sound through my head fone
[10:53] <TheOneAndOnly> Neillithan: awesome, here's a link that should be able to assist you w. getting grub installed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[10:54] <rewati>  i am not gettin sound on my laptop but my headphone is workin fine and i can get sound through my head fone
[10:54] <TheOneAndOnly> rewati: please be patient for an answer, there a lot of other people who need help too
[10:54] <DistroJockey> rewati: might be worth taking a look at the settings in alsamixer (type alsamixer in a terminal)
[10:54] <TheOneAndOnly> DistroJockey: woohoo, you returned - haha
[10:55] <erUSUL> Michael__: better ask a specific question. What is the problem regarding partitioning ?
[10:55] <DistroJockey> TheOneAndOnly: ohh, hey, I went out. What I miss?
[10:55] <TheOneAndOnly> DistroJockey: lots, lol
[10:55] <DistroJockey> TheOneAndOnly: hehe
[10:56] <Ward1983_> i cant change my resolution anymore, it seems it happened when i connected another monitor
[10:56] <Ward1983_> anything i can try+
[10:56] <Ward1983_> ?
[10:56] <Ward1983_> my xorg.conf is ok
[10:56] <redheat> guys, my friends..read this good tutorial on how to make your Linux distribution load from within your windows bootloader using a program called EasyBCD http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/EBCD/Linux  http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/EBCD/Ubuntu
[10:57] <rewati> DistroJockey hi i did that now what
[10:57] <redheat> one of the two URLs above show how to create an Ubuntu entry within vista's boot loader
[10:58] <sayap_ikarus> ghyrfty
[10:58] <DistroJockey> rewati: try pressing the m key when you have a channel with mm listed under it, or max volumes on cannels
[10:58] <DistroJockey> channels^
[10:59] <redheat> assuming that you already have dual boot window scheme and that you need to add more non-windows and non-mac operating systems, since those two operating systems require primary partitions,
[10:59] <DistroJockey> rewati: use the right and left arrow keys to choose a channel
[10:59] <rewati> DistroJockey I have set every chanell to MM
[10:59] <DistroJockey> rewati: mm = muted
[11:00] <rewati> DistroJockey ok so shud i do 00
[11:00] <DistroJockey> rewati: OO / 00 = not muted
[11:00] <ICQnumber> how can i save information of acpidump as plain text only? (acpidump > bla.txt or there is a better solution)?
[11:00] <rewati> DistroJockey ok i did 00 to all
[11:01] <rewati> DistroJockey now
[11:01] <DistroJockey> rewati: test it I guess. And does having the phones plugged in block the speakers?
[11:03] <VSpike> Would I be able to use the rotating feature of this monitor with ubuntu? http://www.hardwarecentral.com/hardwarecentral/reviews/article.php/3581941
[11:03] <kindofabuzz> i'm guessing this is gmail's april fools joke: http://mail.google.com/mail/help/customtime/index.html
[11:03] <VSpike> I realise of course the supplied software will not work, but I'm wondering if xrandr will work instead (even if I have to do it manually)
[11:04] <DistroJockey> ICQnumber: that command should do the job. Is it not suitable?
[11:05] <Enul> I'm having problems burning cds and dvds under ubuntu
[11:05] <ICQnumber> DistroJockey: there is also hex numbers, i want to see the text only
[11:05] <kikokos> hi
[11:06] <Fjodor> Hi. I removed two old dvd-drives, and replaced them with a single drive, now named /dev/dvd1. How do I tell the system that the old ones aren't coming back, and that it should name it /dev/dvd (or /dev/dvd0)?
[11:06] <kikokos> i want to remove vista from hp laptop ,has anybody done this operation?
[11:06] <Neillithan> well, i have been met with zero success
[11:06] <DistroJockey> ICQnumber: not sure what you mean by hex numbers. What you see on screen when you do acpidump should be identical to what gets put in the file
[11:06] <Neillithan> it still says there is no operating system.
[11:06] <erUSUL> kikokos: boot a livecd and reformat the disk ?
[11:06] <b4l74z4r> has anyone tried second life on ubuntu?
[11:07] <Enul> whats second life?
[11:07] <TheOneAndOnly> Enul, a game
[11:07] <kikokos> erUSUL, only this? it remove recovery partition?
[11:07] <Enul> oic.. no sorry i've never heard of it
[11:07] <TheOneAndOnly> Enul it's a game on Windows :p
[11:07] <VSpike> b4l74z4r: yep
[11:07] <VSpike> b4l74z4r: the linux client works fine
[11:08] <erUSUL> kikokos: i suppose? gparted is a WMD ;P
[11:08] <Enul> is anyone other then myself having problems burning cds and dvds with ubuntu?
[11:08] <b4l74z4r> ok, i'll give it a try then
[11:08] <b4l74z4r> thnaks
[11:08] <Tapassi> i am having probelms typing chinese with ubuntu. any help out there?
[11:08] <sami> I need some serious help. I just made an ubuntu install CD for an unattended install with my own repository. When i boot it everthing works fine until it tries to verify the "Release" file.
[11:08] <kikokos> erUSUL,  ok so i try and thanks for helping me
[11:09] <kikokos> by
[11:09] <ampmaniac> hi! can anyone link me to a sight with a dns tutorial sample.. im trying a add a local domain.. thanks
[11:09] <hischild> Enul, not me. I've burned a couple dozen cd's and dvd's, both from iso's and from files.
[11:10] <Enul> hischild what ubuntu are you useing? what version i mean
[11:10] <erUSUL> kindofabuzz: no problem
[11:10] <kindofabuzz> huh?
[11:10] <hischild> Enul, hardy atm. Before i used 7,10, where i burned lots of dvd's without trouble.
[11:10] <b4l74z4r> all of a sudden my xchat ignore list had lots of entries i hadn't set myself, what's going on?
[11:10] <linduxed> when ive hooked up to a wifi network, what application do i use to get as much info possible on availabe Access Points? (the standard network manager doesnt print out much at all)
[11:11] <hischild> linduxed, command line? iwlist <interface> scan
[11:11] <TheOneAndOnly> Enul: cd and dvd burning works fine here on hardy
[11:11] <compwiz18> linduxed: you can run sudo iwlist scan
[11:11] <kindofabuzz> i'm trying xchat now, i like chatzilla better, not enough options for xchat, brb
[11:11] <compwiz18> linduxed: there is no way by default to get that other information
[11:11] <xileno> Emm
[11:11] <soulc> anyone here know where I can get help with fail2ban?  I have ppl hammering my ftp server and would like to ban the source ips......
[11:11] <erUSUL> b4l74z4r: maybe there is some autoignore settings turned on?
[11:11] <compwiz18> except with the cmd line
[11:11] <Enul> i see.. hmm.. i wonder if my dvd burner is supported then
[11:11] <linduxed> ok ill try that then compwiz18 and hischild
[11:11] <Tapassi> any help for chinese typing in ubuntu? i followed in the instructions on http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/~nsivin/chinp.html  however the typing chinese thing doesn't appear when i push  CTRL + Space key
[11:11] <swilky> dose any one know how to make a root file system image for a diskless node pxe boot?
[11:12] <Enul> you didnt have any problems burning a cd under 7.10? i cant seem to get it to work for some reason
[11:13] <MatBoy> erUSUL, thanks !
[11:13] <tenchi21> hi
[11:13] <Enul> i'm also having problems with ubuntu not supporting my firewire card. does anyone know a work around or some drivers i can download to get it to work?
[11:14] <Imaginal> What is the best way to print a list of everything I've apt-get'd and kept for the upcoming 8.04 clean-sweep?
[11:14] <tenchi21> whats the best application to rip a dvd into a xvid file with multiple audio tracks and subtitles?
[11:14] <compwiz18> tenchi21: either ffmpeg or mencoder
[11:14] <compwiz18> probably
[11:14] <aortigo> ola
[11:15] <tenchi21> compwiz18, is that a gui?
[11:16] <sami> I need some serious help. I just made an ubuntu install CD for an unattended install with my own repository. When i boot it everthing works fine until it tries to verify the "Release" file.
[11:16] <compwiz18> tenchi21: no
[11:16] <compwiz18> tenchi21: if you're after a gui, try acidrip or something similar
[11:16] <aortigo> ola alguien de españa yo española
[11:17] <compwiz18> !es | aortigo
[11:17] <ubotu> aortigo: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[11:17] <tenchi21> k
[11:18] <ce_ce> cwek cA_keP
[11:19] <tenchi21> if i'm trying to install xine for dvd::rip what do i need to get? i have gxine but dvd::rip isn't happy and xine isn't in the repos
[11:19] <LollinopiL> acrobat reader in ubuntu sucks ^.^
[11:19] <tenchi21> E: Package xine has no installation candidate
[11:19] <pen> Is there a program providing a sandbox environement so that whatever changes I made will not be saved and can be undo later?
[11:20] <OsamaK> Hello! Can I use both KDE 4 and Gnome?
[11:20] <compwiz18> Yes!
[11:20] <compwiz18> You can!
[11:20] <pen> how?
[11:20] <LollinopiL> ahah
[11:20] <compwiz18> sorry, that was a yes to OsamaK
[11:21] <compwiz18> pen: try a virtual machine?
[11:21] <OsamaK> compwiz18: You're Obama? 'Yes we can' :P
[11:21] <Monona> What is slmodemd, why is it using my soundcard, and how can I end it?  Thanks!
[11:21] <compwiz18> hm?
[11:21] <compwiz18> no
[11:21] <compwiz18> I was just being enthusastic :P
[11:21] <pen> compwiz18: no, I want something like the app I forgot the name in xp but all the changes made were written into a folder
[11:21] <OsamaK> :)
[11:21] <compwiz18> pen: hm...
[11:21] <OsamaK> compwiz18: How to install KDE 4?
[11:21] <compwiz18> pen: chances are you can do it; I don't know how
[11:21] <pen> compwiz18: so if I installed a virus then I wouldn't have to worry about being infected because it will only infect the folder
[11:22] <compwiz18> pen: but you probably won't install a virus in ubuntu
[11:22] <wers> what's wrong with ubuntuforums?! :O
[11:22] <flash-ro> !help2 packet emesene
[11:22] <compwiz18> you'd be hard pressed to find one, even if you looked for it
[11:22] <flash-ro> !help emesene
[11:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help emesene - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:22] <OsamaK> well, there is ; http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/01/14/five-steps-to-install-kde-40-in-ubuntu-710/
[11:22] <pen> compwiz18: yea, instead of virus people usually want to experience with new programs or configs.
[11:22] <compwiz18> Ubuntu forums got orangified
[11:23] <compwiz18> pen: ah
[11:23] <compwiz18> pen: I don't know of anything like that off the top of my head...
[11:23] <compwiz18> sorry
[11:23] <pen> compwiz18: that would usually crash or risk of not booting back their system
[11:23] <compwiz18> maybe an Ubuntu Forums April Fools joke?
[11:23] <pen> compwiz18: it's something more than a system restor
[11:23] <quentusrex> How do I change the login prompt??? I don't want the prompt to say what OS and version number....
[11:24] <compwiz18> quentusrex: you want to change hte PS1 system variable, I think
[11:24] <wers> ubuntuforums.org has a new style and my eyes dnt like it
[11:24] <pen> wers: wow, you are right
[11:24] <pen> wers: what the hell??
[11:25] <wers> you can change the style
[11:25] <compwiz18> april fools, I would gues
[11:25] <compwiz18> s
[11:25] <wers> oooh. yah
[11:25] <wers> there's a drop-down menu on the lower left :)
[11:25] <pen> this is not really a good fool
[11:25] <bsdnewb07> http://www.google.com/virgle/index.html
[11:25] <bsdnewb07> lmao
[11:25] <bsdnewb07> google always have a good april fools
[11:25] <Serg1> hello, it is possible to update a specific package with sudo?
[11:25] <Serg1> with apt-get
[11:26] <pen> lol
[11:26] <pen> omg, I love google
[11:26] <compwiz18> Serg1: sudo apt-get install packagenameiwanttoupdatethatisintherepositories
[11:26] <Monona> When I run "sudo fuser -v /dev/snd/*", slmodemd appears to be using my soundcard.  How do I stop it?
[11:26] <pen> Serg1: no, listen to me, all you have to do is smash your head then the packages will be installed
[11:27] <AlexC_> hey all,
[11:27] <pen> Monona: can't you killall?
[11:27] <AlexC_> How can I get the location of a users home directory?
[11:27] <AlexC_> (via cli)
[11:27] <Monona> When I try "killall slmodemd", I get: "slmodemd(4735): Operation not permitted slmodemd: no process killed"
[11:27] <Serg1> pen, stupid afirmation
[11:28] <pen> AlexC_: ~
[11:28] <AlexC_> pen, for a specified user
[11:28] <pen> Serg1: glad you learn that
[11:28] <pen> AlexC_: usually in Home
[11:28] <pen> I mean
[11:28] <pen> oops
[11:28] <Lamego> Monona, sudo
[11:29] <Serg1> pen you sucks a little
[11:29] <AlexC_> pen, yeah, I don't need the usually :P I need to find out the location of the home directory for a given user
[11:29] <hischild> it is possible to mount directories over ssh, correct?
[11:29] <Serg1> maybe you need to shut-up?
[11:29] <Serg1> :D
[11:29] <pen> AlexC_: / root
[11:29] <pen> Serg1: :D I'm not glad to
[11:29] <AlexC_> pen, funny.
[11:29] <Lamego> hischild, I believe it is, using sshfs
[11:29] <hischild> Lamego, *googles*
[11:30] <Monona> Whoa-ho, that did it. Thanks, Lamego. Now, hopefully I can get Mixxx working.
[11:30] <Serg1> to calm down i meant
[11:30] <user1> hi
[11:30] <pen> Serg1: I'm already calm as a rock :]
[11:32] <Serg1> pen listen here
[11:32] <dotech> anyone here running intel quad core and 8gb ram?
[11:32] <hischild> dotech, why?
[11:32] <Serg1> i don't what to be here like on #linux on undernet, where all insult you
[11:32] <pen> Serg1: well, I'm watching
[11:32] <dotech> just curious, im building that system in a day or so and was considering ubuntu as my OS
[11:32] <AlexC_> how can I find out the home directory for a specified user, via CLI?
[11:33] <Serg1> what=want
[11:33] <Lamego> Al2O3, grep user /etc/passwd
[11:33] <Lamego> or, finger username
[11:33] <dotech> probably the 8.04 beta until the official release
[11:34] <hischild> dotech, it runs quite well on it. I don't have the box you have, but a friend of mine does. Runs fast ..
[11:34] <AlexC_> Lamego, hum, I should be able to do something with `finger`, is there anyway to just get the home directory, though?
[11:34] <Broady> why is gnome so slow on a p4 2.5 ghz?
[11:34] <dotech> hischild: good to hear, its been a while since i ran linux on new hardware so i was afraid it may not work
[11:35] <Lamego> AlexC_, grep $USER /etc/passwd | cut -d":" -f5
[11:35] <hischild> dotech, you should be good :-)
[11:35] <dotech> i'm tired of long compile times so this should help :)
[11:35] <AlexC_> Lamego, didn't quite do it =3, thanks either way - I can work with this =)
[11:35] <dotech> how about 3 monitors on 1 system?
[11:36] <dotech> that works well too?  i have 2 nvidia PCI-E cards
[11:36] <hischild> dotech, haven't tried that ... but it might just work ... would love to hear the feedback on that!
[11:36] <dotech> i figured i would end up tweaking some X settings but we'll see how it goes
[11:37] <dotech> should have the system built by the end of the week and I'll install the OS when i do, will certainly provide feedback
[11:38] <BusError> can I recompile the kernel package keeping the same version/abi ? I want to tweak one of the built-in module, but keep the rest intact...
[11:39] <hischild> BusError, if it's a module you want to recompile, you can just switch the modules around iirc
[11:41] <peace-keeper> where do i set environment variables that i want to be set at boot time?
[11:41] <_moro_bana_> anyone know of any typing games
[11:41] <peace-keeper> like JAVA_HOME
[11:41] <Monona> Grrr. Mixxx still doesn't want to play music.  Anybody know how I can fix that?
[11:41] <peace-keeper> what's a typing game? :D
[11:42] <_moro_bana_> aaaaaaa. software that we use to improve typing speed
[11:42] <kelvin911> i have a 3 GB rar file and it has passwordprotected, i try to extract it and it is extracting for a minute i dont know how long it is going to finish
[11:43] <_moro_bana_> peace-keeper: i dont know what to call it, did you see the last msg
[11:43] <blanktheherewego> How do I kill a post installation script for apt, I went to install mscorefonts and then decided I didn't want it, which means now even a apt-get remove fails because it tries to download all the fonts again.
[11:43] <peace-keeper> you mean for practicing typing on the keyboard?
[11:43] <_moro_bana_> peace-keeper; yes , those, what do you call em
[11:43] <kelvin911> how come file roller doesnt show the % in extracting file?
[11:44] <hischild> blanktheherewego, install it, then remove it.
[11:44] <peace-keeper> don't know what to call that..
[11:44] <_moro_bana_> peace-keeper: well, know of any?
[11:44] <peace-keeper> you could just try to repeat everything people say in here :)
[11:44] <blanktheherewego> Bah, is there any way around it hischild ?
[11:45] <hischild> blanktheherewego, it's the cleanest way to go around it.
[11:45] <blanktheherewego> bleah
[11:46] <hischild> blanktheherewego, if you just install it (like it wants) and then remove it, there won't be something left from it as it uninstalled properly.
[11:46] <_moro_bana_> anyone know of any software ...for practicing typing
[11:47] <hischild> _moro_bana_, junior-typing ? (that's a package...)
[11:47] <hischild> s/package/meta-package
[11:47] <_moro_bana_> hischild: thanks
[11:48] <juzzy_> hischild, are you a serious linux nut or what?
[11:48] <juzzy_> You seem to know just about everything :P
[11:49] <hischild> juzzy_, i know far from everything, but aptitude is my good friend ;-)
[11:49] <juzzy_> Yeah
[11:49] <mad_max02> 23 more days
[11:49] <mad_max02> :D
[11:49] <kindofabuzz> he just google's real fast =)
[11:49] <hischild> kindofabuzz, hey that's my secret!
[11:49] <kindofabuzz> lol
[11:49] <juzzy_> I rarely use synaptic, I usually know the package name and apt-get is soo much faster
[11:50] <hischild> juzzy_, that may be true, but i hate to type sudo apt-get autoremove if it finds orphaned packages, and aptitude has better dependency control.
[11:50] <juzzy_> Yeah I keep hearing that
[11:50] <hischild> and synaptic? no ty :P
[11:50] <juzzy_> But never have problems with apt-get
[11:50] <kindofabuzz> juzzy_: if you don't know the exact name you can do apt-cashe search
[11:50] <hischild> juzzy_, neither did i ...
[11:50] <kindofabuzz> apt-cache*
[11:50] <juzzy_> Synaptic takes forever to load for me
[11:50] <_moro_bana_> whats the diff between apt-get and aptitude anyway
[11:51] <kindofabuzz> _moro_bana_: good question, been wondering that myself
[11:51] <Domitor_Invictus> I've got a small question.
[11:51] <Domitor_Invictus> I get no sound on YouTube, can anyone help?
[11:51] <Domitor_Invictus> I can play media files with sound and all that, but not on YouTube.
[11:51] <hischild> _moro_bana_, long story. Aptitude used to have a few problems, which is why apt was created. Aptitude has fixed those issues a while back, yet apt remains. In general, IMO, aptitude has better dependency control.
[11:52] <juzzy_> hischild, since you know ALMOST everything help me fix my /dev/disk/by-uuid problem :(
[11:52] <hischild> juzzy_, and yes, apt is faster then aptitude, but speed isn't everything if you have to do the same thing 3 times, while aptitude does that only once
[11:52] <hischild> juzzy_, i'll give it a go.. what's up?
[11:52] <juzzy_> upgraded my mythbuntu from gutsy to hardy and rebooteed
[11:53] <juzzy_> now in boot it sits on mounting root filesystem
[11:53] <juzzy_> and then stalls
[11:53] <kindofabuzz> hischild: so you think sudo aptitude is better than doing sudo apt-get?
[11:53] <hischild> kindofabuzz, imo yes
[11:53] <juzzy_> eventually it gives an error involving disc/by-uuid error
[11:53] <hischild> juzzy_, i see...
[11:53] <juzzy_> Mmm :(
[11:53] <kindofabuzz> i'll try it
[11:54] <juzzy_> Have checked vol_id and it matches that in fstab
[11:54] <_moro_bana_> hischild: i see. i remember sometime back i was trying to apt-get something , was failing. was adviced to aptitude, the "walla"
[11:54] <_moro_bana_> the walla*
[11:54] <_moro_bana_> then*
[11:54] <juzzy_> _moro_bana_, n key borked? :P
[11:54] <_moro_bana_> juzzy_: probably
[11:55] <juzzy_> hischild, any insight?
[11:55] <hischild> juzzy_, give me a min to do some looking up on this :)
[11:55] <juzzy_> no worries
[11:55] <kelvin911> file roller sucks
[11:56] <_moro_bana_> hischild:and i got a problem here, big one
[11:56] <hischild> juzzy_, ok a list ==> did you check the UUID right?
[11:56] <juzzy_> oh btw hischild I did manage to get it to boot on an older kernel
[11:56] <juzzy_> 22.14 iirc
[11:56] <kelvin911> i have a 3GB file password protected, when i extract it without entering password it extract for like 5 minutes then ask me password, so i enter it then it extract from 0% again
[11:56] <berti_> ok
[11:56] <juzzy_> hischild, yeah i checked vol_id and it gave me the volid for sda1
[11:56] <juzzy_> and compared that to whats in fstab
[11:56] <kindofabuzz> kelvin911: that's a big porn file!
[11:56] <juzzy_> and its the same
[11:56] <kindofabuzz> j/k
[11:57] <kelvin911> no its quake4
[11:57] <hischild> juzzy_, alright .. tried setting it back to /dev/sda1 ?
[11:57] <berti_> yes its quake4
[11:57] <kelvin911> porn file doesnt have password
[11:57] <kindofabuzz> that's what you kids call it now? =)
[11:57] <Domitor_Invictus> well, some do.
[11:57] <juzzy_> hischild, in the fstab it says /dev/sda1 and the UUID
[11:57] <berti_> i agre with kelvin92
[11:57] <hischild> juzzy_, can you pastebin your fstab then?
[11:57] <juzzy_> Yup, you'll have to just gimme a few mins
[11:57] <kelvin911> last time i was downloading a porn movie that was like 4.5 GB
[11:57] <kindofabuzz> kelvin911: how ya liking linux so far?  that ftp running good?
[11:57] <kelvin911> and no password
[11:58] <kelvin911> ftp is fine
[11:58] <kelvin911> people download file faster when i running linux
[11:58] <kelvin911> dont know why
[11:58] <usb0457> hy guys
[11:58] <juzzy_> because linux is god!
[11:58] <kindofabuzz> yeah, you gotta think, most of the internet backbones are ran on linux
[11:58] <hischild> s/god/good
[11:58] <kindofabuzz> or unix
[11:59] <usb0457> I currently using eeexubuntu on my eeepc
[11:59] <usb0457> but
[11:59] <usb0457> how can I active the sound system on the sturtup ???
[11:59] <juzzy_> I want an eeePC
[11:59] <usb0457> :)
[11:59] <kelvin911> can i install quake4 in ubuntu?
[11:59] <LOWER_CASE> We already have 7.04 installed, along with latest updates, and we're just trying to 'add' the 7.10 CD to the repository. But the errors when we "apt-cdrom add". Is that what we should be doing?
[11:59] <erUSUL> kelvin911: yep
[11:59] <mariomao> irc.explosionirc.org
[11:59] <kelvin911> can i install it without CDkey?
[12:00] <magnetron> LOWER_CASE: you need the alternate cd.
[12:00] <kelvin911> or with some other cdkey?
[12:00] <berti_> you'll never walk alone
[12:00] <erUSUL> LOWER_CASE: the desktop cd can not be added as repositorie only the alternatecd
[12:00] <kindofabuzz> kelvin911: i think k you need the quake linux version though
[12:00] <kelvin911> there is linux version?
[12:00] <erUSUL> kelvin911: no sure check the oficial site for instruction on how to install it on linux
[12:00] <erUSUL> kelvin911: yes theere is a native linux version
[12:00] <kelvin911> i think i am going to boot to xp and plays it there
[12:00] <maek> whats happened to the Ubuntu forums .. there all weird colours ??
[12:00] <LOWER_CASE> magnetron, erUSUS: thanks
[12:00] <kindofabuzz> i been playing world of padman and it's bbased on q3 i think
[12:00] <kelvin911> because i want to play pro evolution soccer
[12:01] <kelvin911> and my ps controller doesnt work in linux
[12:01] <LOWER_CASE> erUSUL: (sorry) thanks
[12:01] <sami> I need some serious help. I just made an ubuntu install CD for an unattended install with my own repository. When i boot it everthing works fine until it tries to verify the "Release" file.
[12:01] <kelvin911> i been playing et all the time
[12:01] <kelvin911> anyone play et?
[12:01] <DistroJockey> maek: they are indeed
[12:02] <juzzy_> ET rocks!
[12:02] <kelvin911> juzzy_: u play et?
[12:02] <juzzy_> Yup
[12:02] <kelvin911> on which server?
[12:02] <juzzy_> Australian ones
[12:02] <JarG0n> kelvin911> http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/quake4/
[12:02] <maek> DistroJockey, PHEW !! I didn't stuff anything up
[12:02] <kelvin911> u ever play in evilsmurfs?
[12:02] <jtravnick> maek april fools maybe?
[12:02] <juzzy_> kelvin911, nah
[12:02] <DistroJockey> maek: nope :)
[12:02] <kelvin911> currently i play in 69.10.205.210
[12:03] <kelvin911> join me sometimes because that server is fast for me
[12:03] <juzzy_> It won't be for me :(
[12:03] <maek> yeah probably ... its hard to read though ....
[12:03] <kelvin911> and they have friendly fire on, feel more realistic
[12:03] <kelvin911> but too bad recently not many people there
[12:03] <hischild> juzzy_, where is my fstab file man, i'm waiting :P
[12:03] <juzzy_> hischild, Mythbuntu is being a pain as usual :P
[12:03] <hischild> juzzy_, o i c:P
[12:04] <Domitor_Invictus> I can't get sound when I'm buffering from YouTube, any idea how I can fix it?
[12:04] <kelvin911> juzzy_: got any good server?
[12:04] <juzzy_> kelvin911, only Australian servers which would be high ping for you
[12:04] <jtravnick> I thinks somebody at the forums had just a little to much wine last night
[12:04] <kelvin911> juzzy_: i dont mind
[12:04] <kelvin911> juzzy_: let me see how bad
[12:05] <jtravnick> Domitor_Invictus, what video are you trying to play on there?
[12:05] <juzzy_> hischild, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61781/
[12:06] <hischild> juzzy_, yay ... let's look
[12:06] <juzzy_> :P ta
[12:06] <juzzy_> kelvin911, not on my main rig atm
[12:06] <juzzy_> But its one of the GameArena servers
[12:06] <juzzy_> www.gamearena.com.au has all the server details
[12:07] <hischild> juzzy_, did you try to switch from UUID to DEV?
[12:07] <Domitor_Invictus> jtravnick: any video.
[12:07] <Domitor_Invictus> none produce sound.
[12:07] <juzzy_> hischild, nope, dunno what that is..
[12:07] <hischild> juzzy_, ok
[12:07] <kelvin911> what is quake4 demo?
[12:07] <kelvin911> is it just one level?
[12:07] <juzzy_> probably kelvin911
[12:08] <jtravnick> Domitor_Invictus, thats on utube?
[12:08] <dn4> what are the packages for audacity plugins
[12:08] <hischild> juzzy_, change line 6 to ==> /dev/sda1 /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[12:08] <dn4> plugins like a ring modulator
[12:08] <kelvin911> can u install the demo and add more map?
[12:08] <juzzy_> ok
[12:08] <Domitor_Invictus> yes, I can't get any sound from Youtube, but usually, I play videos locally and there's sound.
[12:08] <hischild> juzzy_, then try n boot up
[12:08] <kelvin911> Domitor_Invictus: ff?
[12:09] <kelvin911> ff has crash my ubuntu twice on some flash site
[12:09] <hischild> kelvin911, let him run alsamixer from command line and check if it's muted
[12:09] <rio> how to set a static ipv6 address to my wlan0 interface but still use NetworkManager to connect and obtain IPv4 adress?
[12:10] <hischild> rio, do you know how to set a ipv4 address on a connection?
[12:11] <rio> hischild: for ethernet ive done it in /etc/network/interfaces
[12:11] <rio> but typing "iface wlan0 inet6 static\n..." in this file does not work
[12:11] <juzzy_> hischild, are the space between items tabs or just spaces?
[12:11] <christy> does anyone know how to fix this problem in kopete---I cannot find the jasper image convert program.
[12:11] <sami> Anyone running dapper or feisty in here<+
[12:11] <sami> ?
[12:12] <hischild> juzzy_, fstab makes no real difference between spaces and tabs. Just make sure there is at least one space or tab between the parts
[12:12] <juzzy_> k
[12:12] <hischild> rio, does that work when run from command line?
[12:12] <rio> hischild: what to run from the command line?
[12:12] <Jed1> Cant empty the trash can!  (no permission it says)   the trashed files should be stored in ~/.Trash, right?
[12:13] <sami> Anyone running dapper or feisty in here?
[12:13] <hischild> rio, when you run the commadn iface wlan0 inet6 static
[12:13] <rio> hischild: "iface" is no command
[12:13] <christosp> hi
[12:13] <rio> its a configuration entry
[12:13] <christosp> could anyone help with the installation of a netgear wireless adapter?
[12:13] <Domitor_Invictus> I just tested everything in the Sound Mixer.
[12:13] <kelvin911> i am wondering do i need to burn the quake4 iso to dvd to install?
[12:13] <Domitor_Invictus> they all work.
[12:13] <ubobo> 有中国迷么？
[12:14] <kelvin911> or can i run it off the harddisk?
[12:14] <hischild> rio, use ifconfig to set it.
[12:14] <Domitor_Invictus> but I still can't hear anything in the videos on Youtube.
[12:14] <kelvin911> ubobo u chinese?
[12:14] <sami> Seriously is there noone in here that's running dapper or feisty?
[12:14] <hischild> kelvin911, mount -o loop,ro /location/of/file.iso /media/mountpoint
[12:14] <ubobo> 是阿
[12:14] <swilky> will sudo dd if=/ of=a.img make in image of my hdd ??????????
[12:14] <sami> swilky, no
[12:14] <swilky> :(
[12:15] <jtravnick> Domitor_Invictus, you using firefox?
[12:15] <hischild> ubobo, unless you talk English we won't be able to help you.
[12:15] <juzzy_> hischild, still timing out while booting
[12:15] <kelvin911> i mean can i install it in windows
[12:15] <Domitor_Invictus> yes I am, jtravnick.
[12:15] <kelvin911> no linux
[12:15] <hischild> juzzy_, any errors?
[12:15] <sami> swilky, you have to choose your harddrive
[12:15] <kelvin911> i am going to reboot soon
[12:15] <juzzy_> hischild, will reboot with splash off so i get the error
[12:15] <christosp> could anyone help with the installation of a netgear wireless adapter?
[12:15] <kelvin911> i download some games and wanna try them out
[12:15] <ubobo> ...
[12:15] <jtravnick> Domitor_Invictus, and you have all pugins installed?
[12:15] <swilky> sami : sudo dd if=/dev/sda1 of=a.img??
[12:15] <hischild> juzzy_, please do :-)
[12:16] <kelvin911> ubobo: whats up?
[12:16] <sami> swilky, yes. But that will take an image of all of sda1, even the free space.
[12:16] <Domitor_Invictus> I wasn't aware that I need a plugin to be able to get sound in the Youtube videos...
[12:16] <hischild> kelvin911, then what are you running, windows?
[12:16] <rio> hischild: like sudo ifconfig wlan0 inet6 fe80::1:106?
[12:16] <ubobo> can you tell me  how can I log in my qq?
[12:16] <swilky> oh dear ... :(
[12:16] <kelvin911> hischild: i am running ubuntu now
[12:16] <hischild> rio, sounds about right.
[12:16] <rio> Don't know how to set addresses for family 10.
[12:16] <swilky> so how do i make an image of my fs?
[12:16] <sami> is anyone running dapper or feisty in here? come on people!
[12:16] <kelvin911> hischild: but i will boot into XP to install some games and play there
[12:16] <hischild> kelvin911, then you can mount the iso's you have using that command i gave you before.
[12:16] <rio> hischild: thats the output
[12:16] <kelvin911> hischild: in xp ?
[12:16] <hischild> kelvin911, no, in linux
[12:17] <juzzy_> hischild, in grub's menu i edited the item and it has the UUID of the drive in the boot menu
[12:17] <sami> swilky, use dd anyways
[12:17] <kelvin911> hischild: what about in xp?
[12:17] <jtravnick> Domitor_Invictus, i dont know if you do or not i dont usaly go there but its working for me
[12:17] <Jed1> I cant empty my trash can... (hardy)   I have probably removed some files as root, but now I cant find the files. anyone?
[12:17] <juzzy_> would that over-ride the fstab?
[12:17] <hischild> rio, i'm not an ipv6 expert. man ifconfig and then type /v6
[12:17] <zakunin> hola
[12:17] <hischild> kelvin911, use daemon tools or alcohol
[12:17] <kelvin911> ubobo: qq suck anyway
[12:17] <kelvin911> hischild: i dont wanna install daemon
[12:17] <Juuso_> hey, anyone know how i give permission for windows users to samba server? when i type windows commandline net view (ip address) it prints that permission denied
[12:17] <hischild> juzzy_, pastebin me your menu.lst then please :-)
[12:17] <ubobo> suck?
[12:17] <swilky> sami: but wont it make the image the size of my hdd
[12:17] <juzzy_> k will do
[12:17] <hischild> kelvin911, then you'll have to burn then
[12:18] <hischild> ubobo where are you from?
[12:18] <ubobo> shan dong
[12:18] <kelvin911> hischild: i dont have blank dvd now i think
[12:18] <swilky> sami: never mind ill find another way
[12:18] <sami> swilky, exactly
[12:18] <hischild> kelvin911, then you'll have to use one of those programs.
[12:18] <hischild> ubobo that is china or japan?
[12:18] <kelvin911> hischild: i used them up i already use up 200 blanks
[12:18] <swilky> sami: the image is for a diskless node
[12:18] <kelvin911> hischild: i need to get another 100 tomorrow
[12:18] <jtravnick> Domitor_Invictus, and yes at least the video i pulled up says its using adobe flash
[12:18] <hischild> kelvin911, those programs create virtual drives so you don't have to burn them.
[12:18] <swilky> i dont have 500gigs of ram
[12:18] <ubobo> China!!!!
[12:19] <swilky> lol i wish
[12:19] <ubobo> you  can speak Chinese?
[12:19] <sami> is anyone running dapper or feisty in here? come on people!
[12:19] <kelvin911> hischild: i remember last time i had install those daemon tool something screw up in windows so i dont want to do that again
[12:19] <Juuso_> sami mikä sulla on ongelmana
[12:19] <swilky> sami what is feisty and dapper?
[12:19] <Juuso_> ubuntu distros
[12:20] <swilky> older?
[12:20] <juzzy_> hischild, ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/.... does not exist..
[12:20] <Juuso_> yes
[12:20] <hischild> ubobo ::  /join #ubuntu-zh
[12:20] <juzzy_> hischild, so its still trying by UUID
[12:20] <kelvin911> ubobo: u can use pidgin to connect qq
[12:20] <sami> Juuso, if i were finnish i would answer that.
[12:20] <hischild> kelvin911, then use alcohol
[12:20] <swilky> why not upgrade sami
[12:20] <kelvin911> hischild: samething in alcohol
[12:20] <sami> swilky, ubuntu distribution
[12:20] <Juuso_> sami ok, what is problem?
[12:20] <hischild> kelvin911, nero?
[12:20] <blankthemuffin> sami, I run feisty on my other PC
[12:20] <hischild> juzzy_, i c
[12:20] <kelvin911> hischild: i cant remember what, but something screw up
[12:20] <sami> swilky, i'm running gutsy just have to know something
[12:20] <kelvin911> hischild: nero doesnt mount CD drive
[12:20] <hischild> kelvin911, then get rid of windows and use linux?
[12:21] <hischild> kelvin911, nero does
[12:21] <hischild> juzzy_, you have to rewrite your UUID in menu.lst
[12:21] <Juuso_> how i get my samba server working
[12:21] <swilky> sami : oh ok
[12:21] <kelvin911> hischild: many games dont run on linux
[12:21] <Juuso_> windows wont let me in
[12:21] <sami> Juuso, do you have a file called /etc/default-release
[12:21] <rio> hischild: okay now ifconfig wlan0 got the adress, but ping6 returns: connect: Cannot assign requested address
[12:21] <juzzy_> hischild, ok, i'll check it out cheers
[12:21] <sami> blankthemuffin,  do you have a file called /etc/default-release
[12:21] <hischild> juzzy_, change the UUID= part to /dev/sda1
[12:21] <blankthemuffin> gimme a sec sami, gotta ssh in
[12:21] <hischild> rio, does it have something to bounce the ping off?
[12:21] <sami> blankthemuffin, sure
[12:21] <hischild> kelvin911, maybe you have to look into another way
[12:21] <kelvin911> dont understand why so many chinese like to use QQ?
[12:21] <Juuso_> sami no i dont have that file
[12:22] <hischild> kelvin911, linux DOES have games.
[12:22] <kelvin911> its such piece of crap
[12:22] <Juuso_> but i need get samba server working
[12:22] <sami> Juuso, and you're running what ubuntu did you say?
[12:22] <hischild> Q.Q moar folks
[12:22] <Juuso_> i have ubuntu server 7.10
[12:22] <blankthemuffin> nope sami
[12:22] <Juuso_> xfce and gnome desktops
[12:22] <maek> Enemy Territory: Quake Wars is a Linux game
[12:22] <sami> f**k!!
[12:22] <rio> hischild: hm? im pinging the address i just assigned to wlan0
[12:22] <kelvin911> hischild: i know linux have games, but the game i download and play are windows version
[12:22] <Juuso_> it's time when i use dapper or feisty
[12:22] <blankthemuffin> sami, I have a default directory, but no file.
[12:22] <hischild> rio, ping might be blocked ..
[12:23] <kelvin911> maek: where to get quake war?
[12:23] <kelvin911> maek: i am looking for it
[12:23] <sami> I need some serious help. I just made an ubuntu install CD for an unattended install with my own repository. When i boot it everthing works fine until it tries to verify the "Release" file. Can't determine distribution.
[12:23] <maek> its a commercial game
[12:23] <hischild> kelvin911, then don't ask about how to mount a dvd etc.
[12:24] <hischild> sami, is there a release file on your dvd? and what error do you get? how did you create the install cd?
[12:24] <maek> you buy it from a shop then you download a script to install it ... (although I have not done it)
[12:24] <kelvin911> maek: is quake war et free like wolf et?
[12:24] <hischild> sami, info!!
[12:24] <juzzy_> kelvin911, no
[12:24] <juzzy_> etqw is not free
[12:25] <ubobo> but I don't know how to set the logging information
[12:25] <sami> hischild, yes there is a Release. I made it from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization with a couple of addons
[12:25] <rio> hischild: how to find out whats wrong?
[12:25] <hischild> rio, set the gateway to your own ip.
[12:25] <kelvin911> i did find a dvd-rw on my drawer
[12:25] <rage> When using gksu to run a proram, is there a way to get the programs return value? i.e if I run gksu false, can I tell that the application has failed?
[12:25] <juzzy_> hischild, ALERT! /dev/sda1 does not exist. :(
[12:25] <kelvin911> i am going to burn it
[12:25] <juzzy_> that makes me sad
[12:25] <hischild> juzzy_, what? o.O
[12:26] <rio> hischild: how to set the gateway?
[12:26] <juzzy_> Stupid new kernel can't find my hdd
[12:26] <hischild> juzzy_, i can understand that ...
[12:26] <juzzy_> me either
[12:26] <hischild> rio, same way, but then use gateway somewhere i think ...
[12:26] <juzzy_> old kernel finds at least ONE of my hdds
[12:26] <juzzy_> to boot from
[12:26] <hischild> *can't
[12:26] <juzzy_> But the new one can't see the hdd
[12:26] <blankthemuffin> What type of drve are they juzzy_ ?
[12:26] <juzzy_> WD 750GB
[12:26] <juzzy_> SATA2
[12:26] <sami> hischild, any idea?
[12:26] <hischild> juzzy_, hmm plz tell me it's not a compiled kernel right?
[12:26] <hischild> sami, what is the error?
[12:26] <juzzy_> hischild, its whatever kernel the repo has
[12:27] <juzzy_> I have nfi how to mod or compile my own kernel
[12:27] <blankthemuffin> Have you tried turning off APCI or whatever it is in your bios
[12:27] <blankthemuffin> juzzy_, that is ^^
[12:27] <hischild> juzzy_, hmm ... perhaps a reinstall would help, (just the kernel)
[12:27] <juzzy_> No, but both drives were working fine before i updated to hardy
[12:27] <sami> hischild, booting up now, let me check
[12:27] <juzzy_> gutsy would boot and recognise both drives fine
[12:27] <wenton> when i enter the command:    sudo modprobe ndiswrapper    i get back segmentation fault.... any way to fix this?
[12:28] <rio> hischild: ifconfig doesnt have any gateway options afaik :/
[12:28] <hischild> wenton, remove ndiswrapper, download the source, and compile yourself. Do you run hardy?
[12:28] <hischild> rio, it does
[12:28] <sami> The CD-ROM does not seem to contain a valid 'Release' file, or that file could not be read correctly.
[12:28] <wenton> gutsy
[12:28] <farkewie> hi i installed ubuntu on one partition and then kubuntu on another, if i format the kubuntu will that stop my ubuntu from booting up?
[12:29] <rio> hischild: sure?
[12:29] <sami> The log says that cdrom-detect: Error reading Release file; unable to determine distribution
[12:29] <hischild> rio, well the script that i use for host only networking manages to set the gateway so i'm fairly sure
[12:29] <rio> hischild: maybe it uses route?
[12:29] <wenton> whats the advantage of compiling myself
[12:29] <_moro_bana_> whats wrong with the pastebin
[12:29] <hischild> rio, then use route =)
[12:29] <hischild> sami, alright ..
[12:31] <hischild> juzzy_, you have a seperate /home?
[12:31] <juzzy_> hischild, /home is on root partition
[12:31] <rio> hischild: never used route to set ipv6 things :/
[12:31] <Bobezuk> Co to są złecenia stałe?
[12:31] <juzzy_> and theres data on that drive
[12:31] <juzzy_> So no format .. :P
[12:32] <hischild> juzzy_, that sux tbqh...
[12:32] <juzzy_> Mmm
[12:32] <sami> hischild, Any idea?
[12:32] <rio> hischild: pinging addresses that are bound to local interfaces shouldnt even cause a lookup in the routetable or am i wrong?
[12:32] <hischild> sami, i'm looking ... sec
[12:33] <hischild> rio, you can block local traffic using iptables, so it does make a difference iirc
[12:33] <juzzy_> hischild / blankthemuffin where would I find ACPI in bios?
[12:33] <hischild> juzzy_, think under settings or powerstuff
[12:33] <juzzy_> k
[12:33] <rio> hischild: anyway, iptables isnt running
[12:34] <hischild> rio, it was an example that even local traffic also uses networking stuff.
[12:34] <juzzy_> hischild, its only got ACPI Suspend Type S1 or S3
[12:34] <juzzy_> :/
[12:35] <bsdnewb07> guys is there a way to stop users from going back past there /home/username directory
[12:35] <bsdnewb07> so they cant get into /
[12:35] <_moro_bana_> my system started giving me problems, apt-get and aptitude just get stuck at 0% http://rafb.net/p/zme0qA98.html
[12:35] <cupcake> which app will allow me to check time for any time zone in the USA or in any country?
[12:36] <hischild> bsdnewb07, you can't. They require read access to those files for a proper desktop.
[12:36] <hischild> _moro_bana_, does that pc have internet access?
[12:37] <_moro_bana_> hischild: its the one im using now, yes
[12:37] <hischild> sami, it seems like the release file isn't written correctly. Please verify it's correct using the guide you used.
[12:37] <hischild> _moro_bana_, hmm ... try sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[12:38] <sami> hischild, it is correct, That's the problem.
[12:38] <juzzy_> hischild, changed ACPI from S3 to S1 and still times out during bootup
[12:38] <bsdnewb07> guys is there a way to stop users from going back past there /home/username directory
[12:38] <bsdnewb07> so they cant get into /
[12:38] <kindofabuzz> i really hope the new forums colors are an april fools joke, cause it's ugly
[12:38] <hischild> bsdnewb07, read answers when they are given. You cannot restrict access as they require read access for a proper functioning system.
[12:39] <hischild> juzzy_, S1 and S3 is only for how deep your system goes to sleep when hybernating.
[12:39] <Suicidal_Failure> kindofabuzz, yeah bro, they are disturbing
[12:39] <juzzy_> I found no other ACPI functions in bios hischild  :(
[12:40] <kindofabuzz> looks like a website made in 1996
[12:40] <hischild> juzzy_, hmm ... have you tried to chroot into your old environment and run update-grub from there?
[12:40] <_moro_bana_> hischild: 32% not moving
[12:40] <hischild> _moro_bana_, on what end?
[12:40] <hischild> _moro_bana_, pastebin it please.
[12:40] <juzzy_> hischild, I can do that, I just have to boot an older kernel
[12:40] <ubuntu_>  hi, i have ubuntu 7.10 and i have reinstalled WIN.It deleted my GRUB loader. I followed instructions on wiki.ubuntu.cz but it doesnt work it gives me error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61786/ Any ideas what to do?
[12:40] <gilan> hi
[12:40] <gilan> sd card not mount
[12:40] <gilan> toshiba tecra
[12:40] <gilan> a8
[12:41] <gilan> mmc0: card claims to support voltages below the defined range. These will be ignored.
[12:41] <hischild> gilan, please ask your question on one line so we can all follow it and answer it.
[12:41] <ChrisGibbs> anyone know of a kernel that supports upto 8Gb of RAM, restricted modules, 32bit 7.10 Ubuntu and is in APT???
[12:41] <gilan> ok. sorry
[12:41] <hischild> ChrisGibbs, it's not possible to support more then 4gb on 32bit due to address limitations.
[12:41] <Suicidal_Failure> kindofabuzz, its lucky you can select an alternativ3
[12:41] <hischild> ubuntu_, yes we can help you. Do you still have the live cd?
[12:42] <ubuntu_> hischild yes i have it right now
[12:42] <Bobezuk> Whot is demon cromtab?
[12:42] <DistroJockey> ChrisGibbs: I'm pretty sure no 32bit will do more than 4GB of RAM
[12:42] <gilan> hischild: i am using hardy beta. my laptop toshiba tecra a8. sd cardreader doesn't mount. error msg:mmc0: card claims to support voltages below the defined range. These will be ignored.
[12:42] <ChrisGibbs> hischild: It can be done with PAE turned on in the kernel
[12:42] <_moro_bana_> hischild: http://rafb.net/p/RKcTk214.html
[12:42] <kindofabuzz> Suicidal_Failure: where at?
[12:43] <hischild> ChrisGibbs, you seem to know what you need then.
[12:43] <void^> ChrisGibbs: use the server kernel, it has pae enabled
[12:43] <hischild> Bobezuk, it's a program that can run commands at specified times.
[12:43] <hischild> gilan, what does dmesg give you?
[12:43] <Suicidal_Failure> kindofabuzz, bottom left
[12:43] <ChrisGibbs> void^: yeah but i dont get restricted modules for my 6800 nvidia :(
[12:43] <hischild> _moro_bana_, can you please pastebin your /etc/hosts file?
[12:43] <kindofabuzz> Suicidal_Failure: thanks
[12:43] <ChrisGibbs> DistroJockey: kernel will support upto 64Gb with a supported CPU and the PAE option turned on
[12:44] <juzzy_> ChrisGibbs, if you can afford 8gb ram, buy a new gfx card :P
[12:44] <void^> ChrisGibbs: yes, you'll have to compile the module yourself.
[12:44] <Suicidal_Failure> kindofabuzz, no probs
[12:44] <DistroJockey> ChrisGibbs: ahh, k. Sorry
[12:44] <Bobezuk> hischild THX
[12:44] <ChrisGibbs> I was hoping to avoid a x64 kernel as i have had problems
[12:44] <Broady> easiest way to get JRE?
[12:44] <gilan> hischild: http://rafb.net/p/RKArQp55.html
[12:44] <ChrisGibbs> juzzy_: a 8800GTS 640mb RAM isnt good enough?
[12:44] <void^> Broady: apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[12:45] <Broady> ta void^
[12:45] <kindofabuzz> Suicidal_Failure: when i click on a next page, it logs me out and goes back to the funked up color, do you get the same?
[12:45] <kindofabuzz> that's a cruel joke
[12:45] <juzzy_> ChrisGibbs, you said 6800
[12:45] <ChrisGibbs> void^: Yeah i know - kernel compiled fine and saw all my RAM but i didnt want to waste 8hrs + to compile restricted modules
[12:45] <Vinconzo> hi
[12:46] <ChrisGibbs> juzzy_: oops..... my mistake... It is a 8800GTS
[12:46] <void^> ChrisGibbs: nvidia's module rarely takes more than 2 minutes to compile
[12:46] <ChrisGibbs> hmmmm
[12:46] <Suicidal_Failure> kindofabuzz, im not logged in at the moment, and i dont get that issue
[12:46] <_moro_bana_> hischild: the file /etc/host is missing , not there
[12:46] <ChrisGibbs> void^: I wonder why the warning is on the kernel compile guide then....
[12:46] <kindofabuzz> Suicidal_Failure: hmm it' keeps logging me out!
[12:46] <hischild> _moro_bana_, please read more carefully: it's /etc/hostS and not /etc/host
[12:46] <ChrisGibbs> void^: I havent actually tried it yet
[12:47] <gilan> hischild: any suggestions?
[12:47] <ChrisGibbs> void^: You have given me new motivation :)
[12:47] <orkun>  /j #math
[12:47] <hischild> gilan, i'm reading up on it, a second please.
[12:47] <Broady> orkun: fail
[12:47] <orkun> noticed sorry for that
[12:48] <void^> ChrisGibbs: use nvidia-new-kernel-source and module-assistant to use the nvidia driver shipped with ubuntu, or just install nvidia's blob
[12:48] <Zambezi> Anyone with experience from pivot in Linux? Turning monitor 90 degree. Does it work auto?
[12:48] <sami> Fixed my problem.
[12:48] <sami> hischild, never mind i fixed it.
[12:48] <hischild> sami, ok gd
[12:49] <hischild> gilan, i'm afraid i can't be of much help with your problem. :(
[12:49] <rio> hischild: okay now i added a route from fe80:1::/64 to ::, still getting "cannot assign requested address"
[12:49] <_moro_bana_> hischild: http://rafb.net/p/HP11u581.html
[12:49] <gilan> hischild: ok thank you
[12:49] <ChrisGibbs> void^: cheers mate. I will give it ago
[12:49] <hischild> rio, routing into nowhere won't help now would it ;-)
[12:50] <hischild> _moro_bana_, and your pc has _full_ internet access?
[12:50] <binrapt> Hi, I'm currently trying to run Ubuntu 7.10 IA64 on Vista 64 via VMWare 6.0.2 and I'm having trouble with gaining internet access. I set the IP of my card in Windows to 192.168.0.1 so I can use it as a gateway, right? I ran sudo network-admin and set gateway and address to the data you can read in this pastebin entry http://modseven.de/pastebin.php?id=1831
[12:50] <rio> hischild: route it to ::1 or to my fe80:1::106 address?
[12:50] <binrapt> Unluckily I'm always getting "Network unreachable" :( what am I doing wrong?
[12:50] <hischild> rio, route back at yourself
[12:51] <rio> hischild: yes both ::1 and fe80:1::106 is me, but should i use loopback or not?
[12:51] <_moro_bana_> hischild: full access?
[12:51] <binrapt> I can't even ping the IP I specified for eth0? Huh
[12:52] <hischild> rio, use loopback
[12:52] <hischild> _moro_bana_, no restrictions ... it appears that you cannot reach some sources. Can you please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources file?
[12:52] <rio> hischild: okay, still "Cannot assign requested address"
[12:52] <binrapt> I tried both bridged networking and NAT but I suppose it doesn't make a difference because I can't even ping 192.168.0.2 hmm
[12:52] <hischild> rio, then i'm at a total loss i'm afraid :( sorry
[12:53] <rio> :/
[12:53] <Digit> hi all
[12:54] <Digit> can anybody give me a hint to fixing the "black screen" problem with MX400
[12:54] <omnz0r> when do you get a black screen?
[12:54] <piton55>  hi, i have ubuntu 7.10 and i have reinstalled WIN.It deleted my GRUB loader. I followed instructions on wiki.ubuntu.cz but it doesnt work it gives me error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61786/ Any ideas what to do?
[12:54] <Digit> after enabling the 3d support
[12:55] <Digit> after reboot
[12:55] <_moro_bana_> hischild: /etc/apt/sources.list is not a folder
[12:55] <hischild> _moro_bana_, i am aware of that. That is why i asked you to pastebin that.
[12:55] <sami> apt-install: The following package have unmet dependencies: linux-generic: Depends: linux-restricted-modules-generic but it is not going to be installed
[12:55] <omnz0r> ok, sry can't help Digit, was just curios
[12:55] <Digit> ok, no problem
[12:55] <Digit> ;)
[12:57] <_moro_bana_> hischild: that opens a gui
[12:57] <hischild> sami, you're missing packages.
[12:57] <hischild> _moro_bana_, i asked you to pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:57] <kindofabuzz> _moro_bana_: it's a file
[12:58] <sami> will apt-get -d (download only) get deps aswell?
[12:58] <foldart> sami: yes
[12:59] <sami> i already have the package called linux-generic installed. How i just fetch it?
[12:59] <sunbird> hi everyone.
[12:59] <sunbird> i'm struggling with getting gutsy x64 to recognize my internal bluetooth adapter.
[12:59] <sunbird> on a macbook pro 3.1.
[12:59] <_moro_bana_> hischild: http://rafb.net/p/9jdAGs22.html
[13:00] <sunbird> i've read all of the faqs and scoured the ubuntu forums and none of the solutions seem to work.
[13:00] <DistroJockey> sami: check in  /var/cache/apt/archives  for it
[13:01] <me-tv> Hi All, where do I go to complain about my TZ not being available?
[13:01] <sami> DistroJockey, i'v cleaned it out
[13:01] <sunbird> $ hcitool scan
[13:01] <sunbird> Device is not available: No such device
[13:02] <DistroJockey> sami: ahh, may not have been there anyway.
[13:02] <hischild> _moro_bana_, please try to update. Sudo apt-get update.
[13:03] <Pici> me-tv: You can file a bug here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tzdata/
[13:03]  * milia later
[13:03] <me-tv> Pici: Awesome, thanks.
[13:04] <_moro_bana_> hischild: that does not go anywhere either, maybe a fresh install will do
[13:04] <hischild> _moro_bana_, you can try. Good luck.
[13:04] <_moro_bana_> hischild: thanks , bye
[13:05] <ForsakenSoul> why isn't paste.ubuntu.org working is the server down ?
[13:06] <IdleOne> ForsakenSoul, paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[13:06] <ForsakenSoul> 10x
[13:06] <IdleOne> yup
[13:07] <piton55>  hi, i have ubuntu 7.10 and i have reinstalled WIN.It deleted my GRUB loader. I followed instructions on http://wiki.ubuntu.cz/GRUB/Obnova but it doesnt work it gives me error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61786/ Any ideas what to do? pls help me
[13:07] <AliRezaTaleghani> Hello world, i have a problem with my webcam Driver, the chipset is "Microdia 6128", is their any solution for it?? tnx
[13:09] <AliRezaTaleghani> ??? isnot any idea?
[13:09] <AliRezaTaleghani> Hello world, i have a problem with my webcam Driver, the chipset is "Microdia 6128", is their any solution for it?? tnx
[13:09] <hischild> alright guys i'm out for a bit. I'll see you all later..
[13:09] <hischild> bb
[13:09] <hackBOX> piton - try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=609548... you will need to be in the livecd with a terminal open
[13:10] <ForsakenSoul> Has anyone tried to run a Cambridge prep cd in wine ?
[13:10] <TOPall> hi weiss jemand zufällig wie das paket heisst für die swat hilfe ??
[13:10] <Cyberai> I'm trying to run a java application with "java -jar <application>" and I keep getting the message that java isn't installed. Running "apt-get install java" tells me there's no such package available. Can anyone tell me how to get java installed properly?
[13:11] <hackBOX> Cyberai - https://jdk-distros.dev.java.net/ubuntu.html try google search first, it's been covered a lot
[13:11] <piton55> find /boot/grub/stage1
[13:11] <mickpc> ne one know why i might be having trouble with usb disks on ubuntu?
[13:11] <Cyberai> thanks
[13:11] <codeane> hello, trying to install gnome-do on gutsy, get error: gnome-do: Depends: libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.18.3) but 1.18.2-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[13:11] <hackBOX> np
[13:12] <kundalini> sombody know where "wicd" save the configuration file network?
[13:12] <hackBOX> Microsoft Windows has encountered an error and would like to restart... thanks Vista
[13:15] <frandavid100> hi
[13:15] <hackBOX> lo
[13:15] <piton55> hackBOX i tried but its the same, gives me error 22 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61794/
[13:15] <DistroJockey> kundalini: not really, but I assume it would be somewhere in  /etc  . You could try a     sudo find / -name wicd     in a terminal
[13:16] <frandavid100> where can I find the plugin icons that appear in compizconfig? where are the actual images?
[13:16] <hackBOX> what does the find command return?
[13:16] <hackBOX> the error?
[13:16] <piton55> returns (hd0,6)
[13:17] <hackBOX> so then try: root (hd0,6)
[13:17] <hackBOX> setup (hd0)
[13:17] <hackBOX> exit
[13:17] <hackBOX> does that error?
[13:18] <piton55> setup does error
[13:18] <hackBOX> if you type setup ( then press the tab key (might need to press twice) what does grub return?
[13:19] <hackBOX> normally it will tab-complete the entry
[13:19] <hunter> Hardy Heron has been postponed :-(
[13:19] <JarG0n> what?
[13:19] <piton55> setup (hd0,
[13:20] <piton55> it did
[13:20] <hackBOX> so grub sees hd0...
[13:20] <JarG0n> 23 days to go
[13:20] <ChrisGibbs> hunter: 01/04 ??
[13:20] <AliRezaTaleghani> hunter: why?  http://www.ubuntu.com/ still 23 days remain?
[13:20] <ComputerHermit> lol
[13:20] <piton55> i have only ! hdd
[13:21] <codeane> hello, trying to install gnome-do on gutsy, get error: gnome-do: Depends: libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.18.3) but 1.18.2-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[13:21] <piton55> 1 hdd
[13:21] <hunter> just wait and watch, they will update that date
[13:21] <lilleman> How can I set the default ownerships? When I "touch test", it gets rw-r--r-- and I want rw-rw-r--
[13:21] <hunter> afaik, its postponed by almmost a month
[13:21] <JarG0n> hunter> for what reason?
[13:22] <hunter> now that i dont know
[13:22] <JarG0n> Curious, where did you get this information?
[13:22] <hunter> out of the calender
[13:23] <JarG0n> ah
[13:23] <ere4si> it's been due on the 24th for a while...
[13:23] <Dudoso> hola
[13:23] <lilleman> foudn it :)
[13:23] <hunter> got u ;)
[13:24] <Dudoso> who can i conect irc hispano? please
[13:24] <Dudoso> im in ubuntu
[13:24] <ere4si> !es
[13:24] <ubotu> Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[13:24] <MrBumblebee> ubuntu is merging with fedora
[13:24] <ComputerHermit> ho my god ho my god ho my god
[13:24] <Dr_willis> MrBumblebee,  look at the date.
[13:24] <ComputerHermit> it crashed
[13:24] <MrBumblebee> yes, which is why I said something silly like that
[13:24] <hunter> LAWL @ bumblebee
[13:24] <Dr_willis> :)
[13:24] <antoxa> 2enot.ru
[13:25] <MrBumblebee> funnier would have been gentoo
[13:25] <Dr_willis> im sick of the idiotic April 1st jokes every year on the intenet sites.. makes me jsut want to not get online for that day
[13:25] <ere4si> seen the ubuntu forums today?
[13:25] <hackBOX> what if you tried sudo grub-install /dev/hda from the terminal? (may need to replace hda with whatever your hd device is)
[13:28] <AliRezaTaleghani> lilleman: did u CHK umask?
[13:29] <TromBoeZoe> i am trying to create a boot floppy ( 1.44 MB ) but 1.722MB has to fit on it... what command(s) do i have to use
[13:29] <AliRezaTaleghani> whois lilleman
[13:29] <AliRezaTaleghani> whois lilleman
[13:30] <TromBoeZoe> "/
[13:30] <hischild> TromBoeZoe: either you have to compress, use 2 floppies or it just won't fit.
[13:31] <TromBoeZoe> i heard that superformat would work, but i have know idea how to work it out, be trying since yesterday
[13:31] <sami> Does anyone know how i can see which packages that are in conflict with eachother?
[13:31] <hischild> TromBoeZoe: perhaps that google would help?
[13:31] <hischild> TromBoeZoe: http://fdutils.linux.lu/ like that?
[13:32] <AliRezaTaleghani> can any body , make Microdia 6128 webcam, to run?
[13:32] <hackBOX> I heard about that google...  kind of magical really
[13:32] <hischild> hackBOX: yes it's so magic. No1 seems to have heard of it.
[13:32] <hunter> sami, u must have installed some .deb package urself which must have told u that an older or newer version already exist in channels ...
[13:32] <TromBoeZoe> hischild, lol....  thanx... i know it works for some have said so, just know body has any tips on how to
[13:32] <hischild> hunter: he's trying to create his own install disc with his own repo on it.
[13:33] <hischild> TromBoeZoe: use that package (probably in the repo's) and then type man superformat
[13:33] <hunter> i am out of mind, carry on both, shouldnt come in the middle
[13:33] <kundalini> where wicd writes the netkowk configuration?
[13:33] <hischild> hunter: no you're not. I was merely explaining his goal :-)
[13:33] <sami> hunter, This is on the CD. I have a couple of extra packages in an new created repo and one or more are in conflict with linux-restriced-modules-generic
[13:34] <d3imuDdaH> hello over there... no1 can tell me a "good 5.1 soundcard" to buy, with good linux support??? atm i have a creatice XFI, gut im going 2 sell it :-/
[13:34] <hunter> ok i understood.
[13:34] <d3imuDdaH> pls
[13:34] <d3imuDdaH> =)
[13:35] <mobodo> I changed my mail to use ~/.maildir instead of /var/mail - everything works fine, except that I can't seem to find where $MAIL is set in the environment variables.  I could hack it by replacing it in .bashrc, but I'd rather find out where it's set first.  Anyone has an idea?
[13:36] <Ward1983> i start compiz and i get: "Desktop effects could not be enabled"
[13:36] <mobodo> I fgrepped my whole /etc directory for it without success
[13:36] <Ward1983> all i did was install mythtv
[13:36] <Ward1983> any suggestions?
[13:36] <hackBOX> Ward - step one is to run glxinfo | grep dir
[13:37] <Ward1983> hackBOX, im not sure what i should do :s just run glxinfo ?
[13:37] <hackBOX> open a terminal
[13:37] <hackBOX> type glxinfo | grep dir
[13:37] <Ward1983> hackBOX, ah ok :)
[13:37] <hackBOX> (copy and paste)
[13:38] <hackBOX> sorry :-)
[13:38] <Ward1983> hackBOX, no prob
[13:38] <Ward1983> hackBOX, direct rendering: Yes
[13:40] <kindofabuzz> silent in here or is my thing messed up again?
[13:40] <MrBumblebee> we're discussing the gentoo merger
[13:40] <hischild> silent =)
[13:40] <MrBumblebee> in msgs
[13:40] <kindofabuzz> gentoo into ubuntu?
[13:40] <MrBumblebee> we're currently emerging ubuntu as well, it's expected to take a few months
[13:41] <hischild> nice
[13:41] <hischild> when can we see the first beta/
[13:41] <hischild> ?
[13:41] <MrBumblebee> today
[13:41] <hischild> orly
[13:41] <MrBumblebee> or 4/1 of next year
[13:41] <hischild> nice
[13:42] <kindofabuzz> =)
[13:42] <antoxa> i like WINDOWS!
[13:42] <erUSUL> !ot | antoxa
[13:42] <ubotu> antoxa: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[13:42] <hischild> WHAT
[13:42] <hischild> UBOTU
[13:42] <hischild> YOURE ALIVE
[13:43] <FloodBot1> hischild: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:43] <erUSUL> !ot | hischild
[13:43] <ubotu> hischild: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[13:43] <DistroJockey> lol
[13:43] <Pici> Calm down.
[13:43] <xileno> how i can remove my java?
[13:43] <antoxa> 1st april))
[13:43] <hischild> but but but "." oh well i'll take it to offtopic then
[13:43] <xileno> can i have code? i need to remove java
[13:43] <Ward1983> hackBOX, any more suggestions?
[13:43] <dn4> LOL
[13:43] <erUSUL> xileno: sudo apt-get remove java_packages
[13:44] <xileno> erusul: E: Couldn't find package java_packages
[13:44] <erUSUL> xileno: or if you installed it some other way you will have to research on your own ;)
[13:44] <hischild> sorry pici, i was just happy ubotu was back alive =)
[13:44] <Pici> hischild: :)
[13:44] <xileno> oukej
[13:44] <Vixen> Hey folks, I'm trying to get wireless working on ubuntu 6.10 live, the network box shows the wireless icon, but I can't connect, whatever I enter in the boxes. Is there a simple way to check I have the right drivers?
[13:44] <xileno> anyway thanks
[13:45] <erUSUL> xileno: change java_packages to sun-java6-jre or sun-java5-jdk etc... how i'm supposed to knw how or which java you installed??
[13:45] <xileno> 6.
[13:45] <xileno> ty
[13:46] <prin> Hi! I'm running xubuntu, and my "Startbar" / "Task manager-thing" has disappeared completely from one boot to another. I just turned it off, and everything was fine, and then I turned it on again, and the bar was missing. Is there some way to get it back as it was? Or, alternatively, where can I find the cfg file to delete/return to default ?
[13:46] <Monona> How do I stop compiling a program while I'm in the middle of "make"-ing it. (downloaded wrong source, and it's taking forever)
[13:46] <hischild> Monona: ctrl + c
[13:46] <hischild> !wireless
[13:46] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[13:46] <kindofabuzz> Monona: crtl -c?
[13:46] <Vixen> Checked all that, Hischild =[
[13:46] <Monona> Got it, thanks.
[13:47] <Dr_willis> Hold down the ctrl key and hit c :)
[13:47] <Dr_willis> Linux basics.
[13:47] <hischild> ahw :(
[13:47] <Monona> Yup, that's where I'm at.:P
[13:47] <Dr_willis> that sends a kill signal to the app running in the terminal.
[13:47] <Dr_willis> or break.. or whatever its called signal. :)
[13:47] <hischild> sigterm? i dunno =)
[13:47] <wenton> i keep getting segmentation fault when i put in the command sudo modprobe ndiswrapper any ideas?
[13:48] <jrib> SIGINT is what ctrl-c sends
[13:48] <wenton> i tryed downloading from source but had no luck
[13:48] <Dr_willis> INT = Intterupt ?
[13:48] <Dr_willis> :)
[13:48] <Dr_willis> Sigerette.
[13:49] <steve__> morgen
[13:49] <llhjl> hy
[13:49] <hunter> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=741963
[13:49] <jaffarkelshac> how do I reduce the time, it takes for grub to boot. I have reduced the xp mbr from 30sec to 3 and now it takes 10 secs to boot
[13:49] <steve__> irssi ruleZ
[13:49] <h3x> ..
[13:50] <kindofabuzz> jaffarkelshac: 10 seconds ain't quick enough?
[13:50] <Monona> OK.  Now I had done "./configure --prefix=/usr" and then "make" from the unzipped tar file on my desktop.  Where do I have to go to delete all the stuff I no longer need?  Will it all be in the one folder, or will I need to poke around in /usr?
[13:50] <h3x> cd
[13:50] <kindofabuzz> computers have made people so impatient =)
[13:50] <Dr_willis> Monona,  if you never finished the install of the other source.. its still in the source dir.
[13:51] <jrib> Monona: why are you installing to /usr?
[13:51] <ere4si> what's the bot command for getting a panel back when there is none?
[13:51] <hischild> kindofabuzz: i have no idea what you're talking about. I have so much patience my computer always does what i want ;-)
[13:51] <Dr_willis> Monona,  untill you do a 'make install' it stays there.
[13:51] <Monona> That's just what I wanted to hear.
[13:51] <Dr_willis> Monona,  thats why the seqnence is normally './configure' 'make' 'sudo make install'
[13:52] <Monona> jrib: I was installing to /usr because most of my program files are in /usr/bin. Is there a better way to do it?
[13:52] <jrib> Monona: what are you compiling?
[13:52] <Dr_willis> Monona,  depends on the apps. You may want to put them in /opt
[13:52] <h3x> :P
[13:52] <Dr_willis> its 'safer' to put them in /opt
[13:52] <jaffarkelshac> kindofabuzz: i just want to know how to do it. reality its enough
[13:52] <Monona> What is /opt?
[13:53] <Dr_willis> for 'optional' stuff
[13:53] <kindofabuzz> jaffarkelshac: i really don't know any other way other than take out some startup stuff
[13:53] <Vixen> Is there a quick way I can check if my wireless card is supported through the terminal/ubuntu in general?
[13:53] <Monona> jrib: I'm compiling QT4 because I need it to run audio mixing software.
[13:53] <Dr_willis> Monona,  ick.
[13:54] <Dr_willis> :)
[13:54] <hischild> !hcl
[13:54] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[13:54] <gvsa123> hi... is gtk-gnutella an alternative to limewire in ubuntu?
[13:54] <Vixen> HC, I've checked all that, is there a terminal command?
[13:54] <Dr_willis> !p2p | gvsa123
[13:54] <derspankster> just upgraded to hardy beta on laptop - lost my wireless bcm4318
[13:54] <jrib> !kde4 | Monona
[13:54] <Monona> Dr_willis: Yeah, kinda over my head here. But it's fun. So far nothing's broken.
[13:54] <kindofabuzz> gvsa123: there is a linux limewire just so you'd know
[13:54] <ubotu> gvsa123: Peer-to-peer filesharing clients are available for several networks/protocols, including !BitTorrent, !Gnutella, !eDonkey, !DirectConnect, !SoulSeek - Multi-protocol engines include !MLDonkey and !giFT - See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information
[13:54] <ubotu> Monona: KDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[13:55] <jrib> Monona: I imagine that channel can tell you how to properly install qt4
[13:55] <katad0t1s> how can I format a usb stick?
[13:55] <Dr_willis> katad0t1s,  sudo mkfs /dev/whateveritus
[13:55] <kindofabuzz> derspankster: happened to me, thank god i had some gutsy images saved, i reverted back to gutsy
[13:55] <jrib> katad0t1s: or use gparted for a gui
[13:55] <hischild> ilu vixen ..  bb
[13:55] <Dr_willis> katad0t1s,  depending on what fs ya want. :) gparted is good also.
[13:55] <Monona> jrib: The problem was I was trying to install Qtopia, which I realized I absolutely don't need.
[13:55] <Vixen> ilu HisChild
[13:56] <derspankster> Thanks kindofabuzz, I'll ask in ubuntu+1
[13:56] <katad0t1s> jrib Dr_willis  I want to format to fat so i can install gparted ;)
[13:56]  * Dr_willis wonnders what fat has to do wi5th gparted
[13:56] <Dr_willis> but i gotta run. bye
[13:56] <kindofabuzz> klol was wondering the same
[13:57] <katad0t1s> Dr_willis, it requires fat
[13:57] <kindofabuzz> katad0t1s: to install it? no it doesn't
[13:57] <Draggin> Ola!
[13:57] <gvsa123> kindofabuzz: i know... ive been using it since i used ubuntu... i was just searching for an alternative and came across it... does it mean that limewire and gtk-gnutella all connect to the same network?
[13:57] <kindofabuzz> i have all ext3 extensions and i use gparted
[13:57] <katad0t1s> kindofabuzz, it says so in their site for a liveusb
[13:58] <kindofabuzz> katad0t1s: oh sorry didn't know what you were putting it on
[13:58] <Dr_willis> kindofabuzz,  NOW he clarifys
[13:58] <kindofabuzz> gvsa123: i have no idea
[13:58] <katad0t1s> kindofabuzz, can u tell me how to use mkfs to do it?
[13:58] <mlaci> hey guys! i've just bough 4g ram and i have a core2 duo. ubuntu (32bit) only sees 2g. it seems to me based on the ubuntu kernel config file that highmem_4g is enabled so i don't understand what's wrong. any ideas? i rather wouldn't want to upgrade to ubuntu64
[13:58] <kindofabuzz> katad0t1s: i dunno
[13:58] <katad0t1s> ok thanks anyway
[13:58] <kindofabuzz> i don't work here =)
[13:59] <kindofabuzz> katad0t1s: google.com is your friend =)
[13:59] <codeane> hello, trying to install gnome-do on gutsy, get error: gnome-do: Depends: libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.18.3) but 1.18.2-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[13:59] <Waistless> mlaci: does windows XP read 2gig as well? that would indicate something wrong with the bios
[13:59] <Waistless> mlaci: check what the bios reads it as
[14:00] <mlaci> Waistless: i don't use windblows, only inside virtualbox. bios sees 4g with memory remapping enabled
[14:00] <mlaci> Waistless: kernel says: [   24.525631] Memory: 2050444k/4194304k available (2015k kernel code, 44984k reserved, 915k data, 364k init, 1179200k highmem)
[14:01] <Draggin> Could anyone tell me how I would go about installing an application for a specific user only and not systemwide?
[14:02] <SmokeyD> Hey people. Intel Dual Core processors aren't 64bit are they? or should I use a 64bit kernel with those processors?
[14:02] <Waistless> mlaci: can't help you there then i'm afraid :( usually i think hardware problems when ram gets restricted to 2 gigs (windowsxp32 limit varies at 2.5-3.2gig while linux i think can go up a bit higher)
[14:02] <Rageon> they are 64
[14:02] <troofy> if i dont have dns control, hurdles will i face in my .com?
[14:03] <mlaci> Waistless: i see. anyways, thanks
[14:03] <Rageon> i dunno if im running 32 bit or 64 bit ubuntu
[14:04] <Rageon> how do i find out if im running 32 bit or 64 bit ubuntu?
[14:04] <Pici> Rageon: Type uname -a and tell us what it says.
[14:04] <Rageon> ok
[14:04] <gvsa123> kindofabuzz: what about frostwire?
[14:04] <Pici> mlaci: Unless you are running the -server kernel, or have compiled your own kernel, you are limited to the 32bit addressable amount of memory, minus whatever is being used by registers and whatnot.
[14:04] <Rageon> 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Feb 12 07:42:25 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[14:05] <troofy> if i dont have dns control, hurdles will i face in my .com?
[14:05] <Rageon> Pici : 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Feb 12 07:42:25 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[14:05] <Pici> Rageon: Thats 32bit, i686 denotes that its 32bit, not 64.
[14:05] <Rageon> oh
[14:06] <Rageon> i have a dual core intel is it worth going 64 bit?
[14:06] <speedhunt3r> is there any linux software that lets you burn .uif files?
[14:06] <SmokeyD> Rageon: same question for me. I think it indeed is worth it
[14:06] <Rageon> (although id be unlikely to swap now ive finally got everything working lol)
[14:06] <cdecarlo> troofy: I don't understand your question, I don't think I'm the only one ...
[14:06] <kindofabuzz> gvsa123: what about it?
[14:06] <mlaci> Pici: hm, interesting. i'm running the generic kernel right now, but i've checked its config file and it seemed to me that highmem_4g is enabled so it should handle 4g ram. am i missing something?
[14:06] <SmokeyD> since you can harness the power of your CPU better
[14:06] <Rageon> what are the advantages Smokey?
[14:07] <Rageon> SmokeyD*
[14:07] <Pici> mlaci: I don't know. Kernel specifics are not my strongpoint. Sorry.
[14:07] <|Dede|> How do I get back to Desktop without quiting the for example a game running on full screen?
[14:07] <SmokeyD> Rageon: Well, I don't specifically know, I just think that the better your kernel is adjusted to your processor, the more you can get out of your processor
[14:07] <mlaci> Pici: i'll try the server kernel, thanks for the idea
[14:07] <Yodude> hey printing isn't working in xfce, but it does work in Gnome, does anyone know how to fix this ?
[14:08] <Pici> mlaci: One caveat: There arent restricted drivers for the server kernel
[14:08] <Rageon> Yodude, use Gnome ;)
[14:08] <troofy> cdecarlo if i don't have dns control, what hurdles will i face in my .com?
[14:08] <|Dede|> How do I get back to Desktop, without quitting for example a game running on full screen?
[14:08] <|Dede|> what keys do I need to press?
[14:08] <Pici> |Dede|: alt-tab ?
[14:08] <|Dede|> thx
[14:09] <Draggin> |Dede| - Alt+F1 will open the Applications menu... I'm not sure about getting to the desktop itself though...
[14:09] <cdecarlo> troofy: maybe if you typed in all caps I would understand the same sentence better
[14:09] <mlaci> Pici: it's good to know that. i'll try it anyways to see whether it handles 4g ram
[14:09] <Rageon> ive got my compiz tweaked out, how do i get those sexy application scrolling panels i see in screenies?
[14:09] <zerosignal> hello?
[14:09] <|Dede|> Alt tab does not work
[14:09] <Yodude> Rageon: lol i need xfce i cannot leave it, so does anyone know of a fix ?
[14:10] <Rageon> hehe yea soz dude dunno, just being cheeky :)
[14:10] <lartza_> has anybody got experience with cutenews? i would like the change the encoding to UTF-8
[14:10] <|Dede|> It gotta be something else, to return to Desktop
[14:11] <cdecarlo> |Dede|: have you tried alt-enter
[14:11] <|Dede|> nope
[14:11] <mad_max02> lol
[14:11] <Rageon> |Dede|, just configure what it us in System>Prefs>KeyboardShortcuts
[14:11] <mad_max02> |Dede|, why dont you just use alt+ctrl+right ???
[14:11] <zerosignal> has anyone heard of 7.10 having issues with older nvidia chipsets?  The old glx-driver was what I had installed before I upgrade and it was working alright.  Now I tried to use envy to upgrade and it installed the driver to the glx-new driver that does nothing but bring up the VESA drivers once I get rebooted
[14:12] <mad_max02> |Dede|, it moves you to next desktop and leaves game running
[14:12] <kindofabuzz> gvsa123: i just downloaded frostwire but i can't type in it
[14:12] <zerosignal> anyone have any ideas what I can do?  I tried to completely remove the glx-new drivers and go back to the originals and I still get nothing but vesa at startup
[14:12] <Rageon> im running Gran Paridiso, installed it the hard way tho lol
[14:12] <Monona> jrib: Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.  I got what I needed, and hopefully I'll be able to get this program running.
[14:12] <|Dede|> right arrow? that doesnt work
[14:13] <Rageon> ctrl+atl+rightarrow
[14:13] <|Dede|> wont work
[14:13] <zerosignal> http://pastebin.com/m38088acb
[14:13] <cdecarlo> zerosignal: I think I may have read something like that in the release notes, I think you can get a build directly from nvidia for older cards
[14:13] <zerosignal> theres a copy of my current xorg.conf
[14:14] <zerosignal> really?
[14:14] <zerosignal> so I am stuck using the older drivers?
[14:14] <Rageon> well it is a older card :s
[14:14] <|Dede|> it cant be that hard to return to desktop :S there's gotta be something
[14:14] <zerosignal> yea I guess...
[14:14] <cdecarlo> zerosignal: I think you're stuck using the drivers that support your video card
[14:14] <Rageon> what do u mean return to desktop
[14:15] <zerosignal> wow that sucks
[14:15] <mad_max02> |Dede|, dude it works. I use it all the time.
[14:15] <Rageon> do you mean shift workspaces?
[14:15] <zerosignal> so I should check out the older builds on nvidias site then?
[14:15] <|Dede|> with UT 2004?
[14:15] <cdecarlo> zerosignal: I think there are new drivers for legacy cards
[14:16] <zerosignal> really where?
[14:16] <zerosignal> I have tried to look for an hour and cant seem to find any
[14:16] <|Dede|> mad_max02: with UT 2004?
[14:16] <legend2440> kindofabuzz: yes that is a known bug in frostwire. if i hit maximize on top right panel it fixes it for a while. i usually use amule because i get more hits when i search for something
[14:17] <kindofabuzz> legend2440: oh ok, well it's working now
[14:17] <Rageon> anyone tell me how i would go about bruteforcing my routers password? lol ive forgotten it and dont wanna haveto redo all the settings after reseting it
[14:17] <Lamego> Rageon, wrong channel for that question
[14:18] <|Dede|> mad_max02: with Unreal Tournament 2004?
[14:18] <Rageon> what channel would i ask it in mate?
[14:18] <bazhang> Rageon: really no recourse there; I forgot mine a few weeks ago and just had to reset
[14:18] <Lamego> Rageon, /list
[14:18] <Pici> Rageon: try ##security if you need to ask it somewhere, just not here.
[14:18] <b4l74z4r> will clicking on the x button in the top right corner of a gnome window cancel the changes you've made and close it as opposed to clicking on the close button?
[14:18] <zerosignal> I dont quite get this... If I have a legacy card then why isnt it even listed under legacy cards on nvidias site?
[14:18] <|Dede|> How do I get back to Desktop, without quitting for example a game running on full screen?
[14:19] <smellynose> Anybody know of a command line program to monitor a mic?
[14:19] <smellynose> Alt and tab?
[14:19] <|Dede|> nope doesnt work with UT 2004
[14:19] <|Dede|> tried it
[14:19] <keeper> morning blitches
[14:19] <zerosignal> If I click on show legacy drivers it shows upto the geforce series 4 cards not the series 6 that I have.
[14:19] <smellynose> Does it not have a hotkey to turn full screen off?
[14:19] <Lamego> |Dede|, there is a small utility which provides that functionality for some games, I believe the name is etswitch
[14:19] <ZeroA4> |Dede|, Alt+Enter ?
[14:20] <|Dede|> Alt+Enter does not work neithe
[14:20] <|Dede|> *r
[14:20] <ZeroA4> |Dede|, and Ctrl+G to Grab/Release the mouse
[14:20] <|Dede|> okay, thats what I wanted
[14:20] <|Dede|> thanks Zero
[14:21] <kZn`13> pourquoi je n'arrive pas à changer de channel?
[14:21] <SpookyET> I'm trying to use rdiff-backup to backup my system. It crashes because it is trying to backup /sys/. I have --exclude-globbing-filelist with http://www.paste2.org/p/18348 . I don't get why the list fails.
[14:21] <LjL> !fr | kZn`13
[14:21] <ubotu> kZn`13: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[14:22] <sknh> Hey, can anyone tell me the package name for sun java on Ubuntu
[14:22] <sknh> I mean the package name to be used along with apt-get
[14:22] <hwilde> !java | sknh
[14:22] <ubotu> sknh: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[14:22] <sknh> Is there a way to list the packages from a command line?
[14:22] <bazhang> sknh: should be in ubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:23] <hwilde> sknh, sudo aptitude search java
[14:23] <sknh> hwilde: what's the diff between aptitude and apt-get?
[14:24] <keeper> essentially nothing
[14:24] <LjL> *PLEASE* don't discuss the Hardy release delay here, use #ubuntu+1! (see /topic)
[14:24] <CJS3141> I'm having troubles with Firefox 2.0.0.13 and want to roll back to 2.0.0.12--is there any easy way of doing this with Synaptic? Or do I need to find 2.0.0.12 on my own and install it manually?
[14:25] <rwycuff> anyone in here us pandora from MSN and know if there is something better out there
[14:25] <zerosignal> do you think I should try installing nvidia-glx-legacy from synaptic?
[14:25] <smellynose> Anybody know of a command line program to monitor a mic?
[14:28] <lartza_> has anybody got experience with cutenews? i would like the change the encoding to UTF-8
[14:28] <Pirate_Hunter> since im going to be doing a clean install of hardy with xp should i try vmware instead on vbox just to change things up a bit?
[14:29] <PcPixel> Has anyone set up Postfix on Ubuntu Server? for some reason, reject_unverified_sender won't work. I can get it working on a CENTOS system, but Ubuntu won't do it.
[14:29] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 Pirate_Hunter
[14:29] <ce_chinnese> ren_bastard....
[14:29] <ce_chinnese> 56uk
[14:30] <cvasilak> hi there, gedit tries to load a file which has encoding iso-8859-7 but gedit uses iso-8859-15. How can i change that so the gedit falls back to iso8859-7 when it cannot successfully determine the file encoding?
[14:30] <ce_chinnese> surabaya
[14:30] <bazhang> ce_chinnese: this is a support channel for Ubuntu; do you have a support question?
[14:30] <Stavros> how can i downgrade a package to a previous version?
[14:30] <zerosignal> with my graphics issues should I still have the "use restricted driver" nvidia drivers check box or should I leave that unchecked?
[14:30] <LjL> Stavros: it's in general not supported, but try « sudo apt-get install packagename=version »
[14:30] <Rageon> use restricted
[14:31] <chimp> Is there a way to connect a terminal emulator to what is happening in a terminal when you do for example ctrl-alt-f2
[14:31] <zerosignal> ok
[14:31] <bazhang> zerosignal: if you want 3d use the restricted
[14:31] <zerosignal> ok
[14:31] <Stavros> LjL: will that upgrade again when i run "aptitude upgrade"?
[14:31] <Pelo> cvasilak, you get that error msg when you try to open a file that you shouldn't be opening,  make sure you know what this file is about,  if you realy realy want to edit that file try with vim
[14:31] <zerosignal> then where are these supposed drivers on the nvidia site for the nvidia go 6600?
[14:31] <zerosignal> I have looked everywhere and cant find them
[14:31] <Pirate_Hunter> bazhang: im not aksing for help on how to use it im asking for suggestion should i use vbox or vmware this time. ive always been using vbox so i wonder if i should choose vmware this time
[14:31] <LjL> Stavros: yes. you'd have to use pinning to avoid that, but don't ask me about it... you can do /msg ubotu pinning for some information, but it's awfully outdated information
[14:31] <Webu_> !geforce
[14:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about geforce - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:31] <kindofabuzz> where are all the stock icons and stuff located?
[14:32] <Pelo> kindofabuzz, /usr/share/icons
[14:32] <Stavros> LjL: it's ok, i don't want that... i ran into a php bug so i need to downgrade until the fixed package arrives, thanks
[14:32] <Rageon> do geforce go's have 3d capabilitys? :x
[14:32] <zerosignal> yes
[14:32] <Pelo> kindofabuzz, also in /home/usrname/.icons
[14:32] <zerosignal> I was using it just fine with full compiz and playing hl2
[14:32] <PcPixel> i know i can use postgrey, but id like to be sure ive got all built in facets of postfix working
[14:32] <bazhang> Pirate_Hunter: I will answer hardy questions in #ubuntu+1 ;]
[14:32] <Rageon> ahh
[14:33] <Webu_> What's the correct driver for GeForce 7600 GT? My friend's having problems running Frets on Fire properly.
[14:33] <LjL> Rageon, you'll be hard pressed to find a card being sold these days without any 3D capabilities
[14:33] <zerosignal> so thats what is killing me right now...
[14:33] <cvasilak> Pelo, i don't get any error message, gedit fails miserably to identify the correct encoding it uses iso 8859-15 but its iso 8859-7
[14:33] <Rageon> yea i was joking :)
[14:33] <kindofabuzz> pelo thanks
[14:33] <Stavros> Webu_: nvidia-glx i think
[14:33] <zerosignal> I had it working but got gready and decided to upgrade the driver
[14:33] <Rageon> sounds like a weak card, where its probably not ;)
[14:33] <Stavros> there are only two :p
[14:33] <Webu_> Stavros, okey thanks, it's the 3D driver I suppose?
[14:33] <Stavros> Webu_: yes
[14:33] <Webu_> Nice!
[14:33] <zerosignal> I was using nvidia-glx but now if I try to go back to that driver it is still forcing my back to using vesa
[14:33] <Stavros> Webu_: it should install automatically
[14:33] <zerosignal> no matter what I do
[14:34] <Rageon> im using glx
[14:34] <Webu_> Stavros, hmm..
[14:34] <Stavros> Webu_: check the restricted packages manager
[14:34] <Rageon> but its for tv support
[14:34] <Webu_> Stavros, okey, thanks.
[14:34] <Stavros> np
[14:35] <CJS3141> LjL: When you use that command "sudo apt-get install packagename=version", I would assume it tries to install the package? I mean is there a way to just search to see if the package is available first?
[14:35] <lartza_> has anybody got experience with cutenews? i would like the change the encoding to UTF-8
[14:35] <LjL> CJS3141: not quite... the package might not even be available in the repositories anymore, in which case it depends on whether you have it locally or not
[14:36] <LjL> CJS3141: also, you may need a "--reinstall" before the "install", now that i think of it
[14:36] <zackyramone> hey guys, can anyone tell me how i can create an ntfs partition using goarted.. cause in the features only viewing is marked
[14:36] <LjL> CJS3141: which version do you want to downgrade to?
[14:36] <Shubbar> well, i switched to Network Selector but how to use it?
[14:36] <genii> CJS3141: apt-cache policy <packagename> usually lists what versions you have of a particular package
[14:37] <CJS3141> LjL: I want to go from Firefox 2.0.0.13 to 2.0.0.12... any ideas?
[14:37] <kindofabuzz> CJS3141: probably best to ask on forums.mozillazine.org
[14:37] <kindofabuzz> what's wrong with .13?
[14:38] <Shubbar> i added my router SSID, it shows up, but does not connect to it
[14:38] <LjL> CJS3141, it's likelt that you cannot do that, as the version in the "main" repository is 2.0.0.6. try apt-cache policy firefox and see which versions you have available
[14:38] <zackyramone> hey guys, can anyone tell me how i can create an ntfs partition using gparted.. cause in the features only viewing is marked
[14:38] <CJS3141> kindofabuzz: I don't know what happened, but it won't correctly display ubuntuforums.org or wikipedia.org for example.
[14:39] <kindofabuzz> CJS3141: ubuntu forums giving you funny colors?  that's there april fools joke
[14:39] <CJS3141> kindofabuzz: Yes, I did figure that much out! :-) But I'm not getting the menus and such, and wikipedia page is messed too--I checked it with Opera and it's fine.
[14:40] <philwyett> zackyramone: Go to http://www.linux-ntfs.org/
[14:40] <kindofabuzz> CJS3141: best firefox help around is on there foruns, forums.mozillazine.org
[14:40] <philwyett> zackyramone: I think you will need ntfs-progs to create ntfs partitions.
[14:40] <CJS3141> LjL: only other version available is 2.0.0.6--maybe I should just roll back to that?
[14:40] <kindofabuzz> CJS3141: wikipedia is working fine for me, but i use firefox 3beta4
[14:41] <LjL> CJS3141: if you have such a need to roll back... i can't guarantee there isn't any danger involved, though
[14:41] <kindofabuzz> CJS3141: you're introducing alot of security flaws if you roll back,  that's why they come out with new cersions
[14:41] <CJS3141> kindofabuzz: Thanks, maybe I'll give the mozilla forums a try, see if I can find any info on my problem. I would rather just go back to 2.0.0.12 as that was working fine.
[14:42] <bazhang> CJS3141: what do you mean by correctly display? please specify
[14:42] <CJS3141> bazhang: OK, hang on here...
[14:43] <chimp> Is there a way to connect a terminal emulator to what is happening in a terminal when you do for example ctrl-alt-f1?
[14:44] <CJS3141> bazhang: I'm not getting the different columns or I think what they call "frames" in html--my search box is at the bottom of the screen for example, instead of on the side.
[14:44] <speedhunt3r> hey, how do i delete a directory and all it's contents using terminal?
[14:44] <jrib> chimp: using screen would be one way
[14:44] <kindofabuzz> chimp? huh? just look at the terminal to see what's going on
[14:44] <philwyett> rm -rf /the_dir
[14:44] <Shubbar> anyone using Network Selector?
[14:44] <sknh> I have main, restricted and universe added as reps in sources.list
[14:45] <chimp> I mean because its often awkward to use the screen, however i like to run for example irssi on it, so that even if i restart x, it still runs
[14:45] <sknh> but I can't find sun-java in aptitude search java
[14:45] <jrib> chimp: 'screen' is a program
[14:45] <sknh> do I have to add any extra reps?
[14:45] <chimp> But if i start irssi in a terminal emulator, it will quit when x restarts
[14:45] <bazhang> CJS3141: the search box is on the bottom from now on; also on ff3--not sure about the frames as wikipedia main page has none--let me check
[14:45] <jrib> !screen > chimp (read the private message from ubotu)
[14:45] <chimp> ta
[14:47] <grka> j have a question
[14:47] <iositd> !ask | grka
[14:47] <ubotu> grka: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[14:47] <grka> j thik you guys can help me
[14:47] <grka> a have a problem....
[14:47] <grka> in practise wich is my homework j need to build a "appserver" stop/start file
[14:47] <grka> in /etc/init.d/appserver
[14:47] <grka> and it`s starts in /usr/local/bin/appserver with commands
[14:47] <grka> /usr/local/bin/appserver -k start
[14:47] <FloodBot1> grka: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:47] <grka> /usr/local/bin/appserver -k stop
[14:47] <zerosignal> ok no one is responding in nvidia so I will ask another question here... I know now that I need to install the nvidia legacy drivers for my card but now I am having issues actually finding them...
[14:47] <CJS3141> bazhang: I should have specified better-- the page I'm looking at is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page     What do you see?
[14:48] <zerosignal> If I look on nvidias site under linux legacy drivers they only display upto the series 4 drivers... I have a series 6 card so what driver do I go with?
[14:48] <Pici> zerosignal: Just use the restricted drivers manager in Ubuntu, no need to go looking for things or installing them manually,.
[14:48] <esteth> How do i hibernate from a console?
[14:48] <bazhang> CJS3141: normal frames etc; search box is still on the bottom though
[14:48] <iositd> zerosignal, why would you need those driverse?
[14:48] <zerosignal> the restricted one doesnt work
[14:48] <zerosignal> it keeps trying to install the new drivers
[14:49] <Rageon> where can i find some other repos?
[14:49] <zerosignal> I need the legacy drivers
[14:49] <zerosignal> apparently...
[14:49] <bazhang> Rageon: for what? please specify
[14:50] <Rageon> dunno cool stuff lol
[14:50] <bazhang> Rageon: beware of non-ubuntu repos; that is a fast way to breakage
[14:50] <CJS3141> bazhang: You must be having the same problem as me--look at that page link I gave in Opera and I think you'll see the search box on the side like it always is. I just now checked.
[14:51] <esteth> Raegon: Most third party repos you'll use will be for particular apps. Like you might use the wine repo or whatever. Other than that, "cool new stuff" can be found on getdeb, but do not expect support for packages that are not in ubuntu's main repo
[14:51] <bazhang> CJS3141: no opera here; ff3 works just fine ;]
[14:51] <Rageon> yea ff3 is the win
[14:52] <bazhang> CJS3141: you mean the search for wikipedia? or for firefox
[14:52] <CJS3141> zerosignal: I'm using nvidia-glx-legacy driver for my old nvidia card--is that what you are looking for? It's available in Synaptic.
[14:53] <CJS3141> bazhang: I mean the search box on the wikipedia page, not firefox. :-)
[14:54] <bazhang> CJS3141: ah sorry then it is in the right place ;]
[14:55] <CJS3141> bazhang: No problem. :-) I'm still not sure if I want to mess with it trying to fix it or just roll back.
[14:56] <bazhang> CJS3141: just wait until the next less release is my advice--only three months to go ;]
[14:56] <ZummiG777> Question: I'm installing a Dell Intel Dual Core computer - how do I select a SMP kernel?  Synaptic does not show SMP under search
[14:56] <iositd> ZummiG777, most liekly it's already installed.
[14:56] <iositd> ZummiG777, in console, type uname -a
[14:56] <bazhang> ZummiG777: that would be the generic
[14:57] <Webu_> "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. configure -a' to correct the problem." Any ideas? Friend's having a hard time :-P
[14:57] <iositd> Webu_, do as it suggests ==> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[14:57] <bazhang> Webu_: run that command ;]
[14:58] <ZummiG777> OK - I'm good on that one.  Is there a way then in top to show what each processor load is individually?
[14:58] <luis_> good morning you all peopple
[14:59] <firefly2442> ZummiG777: you can go into the System Monitor (under Administration)
[14:59] <ZummiG777> wonderful!  Thank you!
[14:59] <luis_> i like to request some help, i did install limewire pro, the thing is that is taking it a lot to get connected, is almost minutos trying but nothing, how can i fix this can someone help me please??????????????????????????????
[14:59] <Webu_> Oh thanks :-)
[15:01] <firefly2442> luis_: do you have a router with a firewall or something that could be blocking it?
[15:01] <bazhang> luis_: what system? XP?
[15:01] <CJS3141> LjL, bazhang: thanks for the help, gotta go for now... take care and cheers! :-)
[15:01] <luis_> i have kubuntu
[15:03] <bazhang> limewire on wine luis_?
[15:03] <luis_> and yes i have a router
[15:03] <luis_> lime wire
[15:03] <luis_> is the only one i know works fine
[15:03] <cchild> instead of using shred or wipe to prevent data recovery, would an encrypted formatting of the disk be just as secure instead?
[15:03] <luis_> well with windows but with kubuntu seems to have problems
[15:03] <bazhang> they have a native linux client luis_?
[15:03] <iositd> cchild, as long as others can't access it, yes
[15:03] <unop> luis_, try restarting limewire and have a little patience, it eventually does connect up
[15:03] <Rageon> what are some good graphics games i can play on ubuntu?
[15:03] <luis_> what do you mean sorry but i am new on kubuntu and theres a lot
[15:03] <firefly2442> Rageon: open source or just that have clients for Linux?
[15:03] <bazhang> sauerbraten Rageon but offtopic here
[15:03] <Rageon> open source i guess
[15:03] <zerosignal> ok I am getting really confused now..
[15:03] <Rageon> ive checked all the repo games
[15:04] <cchild> iositd; a disk is being sent back to manu. so would just formating with encryption better since shred to so much time?
[15:04] <luis_> or do you know any other progran that works fine in kubuntu to download music?????????????????????
[15:04] <LordAnubis> Anyone from Armenia here?
[15:04] <bazhang> luis_: no piracy talk here thanks
[15:04] <Rageon> whats sauebraten
[15:04] <zerosignal> I just completely uninstalled nvidia-glx and nvidia-legacy then rebooted to start from scratch again
[15:04] <luis_> ok
[15:04] <luis_> sorry
[15:04] <iositd> cchild, manu = maintance or sth like that? you'll have to rewrite the entire disc, preferably with random data to prevent recovery.
[15:05] <zerosignal> so I booted back up and now the system started using the nv driver
[15:05] <iositd> cchild, whether you use shred or wipe or format with encryption for that, doesn't matter.
[15:05] <iositd> cchild, you can even use dd for that
[15:05] <zerosignal> no when I try to reinstall the restricted nvidia drivers it is installing the nvidia-glx-new drivers which dont work on my card
[15:07] <legend2440> Rageon: http://sauerbraten.org/
[15:07] <zerosignal> what do I do now?
[15:07] <Rageon> cheers
[15:07] <zerosignal> the thing I dont get is when my drivers were working before I only had the nvidia-glx driver installed in synaptic...
[15:07] <cchild> iositd, it is being sent to manufacture-and you know they will look at the files, how come formating the entire drive with encryption wont help?
[15:07] <zerosignal> Now if I try to do that exact same thing it doesnt work
[15:07] <iositd> cchild, just removing partition stuff won't help, you'll have to physically write over the entire drive, with random data preferably.
[15:07] <cchild> iositd, would good then is the encryption?
[15:09] <Rageon> sorry to be offtopic again, but are they are repos that i can get games like openarena and lincity?
[15:09] <NDPTAL85> They don't exactly have the time to be spying through people's hard drives.
[15:09] <iositd> cchild, you don't have to use encryption as long as your not going to use it.
[15:09] <firefly2442> Rageon: check getdeb.net
[15:09] <NDPTAL85> Its a paranoid concern, unless you have something illegal on it and I ain't talking pirated software.
[15:09] <bazhang> !ot
[15:09] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[15:09] <Rageon> ok, do things in getdeb work on ubuntu ?
[15:09] <esteth> Rageon: You don't need repos, but just .deb files. Those will use the package system but are just downloaded like normal files
[15:09] <Rageon> ok
[15:09] <esteth> Rageon: In theory, yes, but there is no support for packages from getdeb
[15:09] <unop> cchild, i don't see why you are looking into encryption here? you aren't protecting any data that is going to exist on the harddrive -- simply overwrite the harddisk with random data, and that should suffice
[15:09] <cchild> iositd, the reason i am thinking of just formating the entire drive/encrypted is because shred takes just to long for a 250G HD
[15:10] <bazhang> http://www.getdeb.net/app.php?name=openarena Rageon
[15:10] <esteth> cchild: If you Want to wipe the entire drive i would reccomend DBAN (boot and nuke)
[15:10] <iositd> cchild, look at what unop wrote.
[15:10] <Rageon> so i download lincity-ng and lincity-data.. what do i do then?
[15:10] <Rageon> cheers bazhang
[15:10] <Jeruvy> Rageon: I would assume you'd install them and run them, but you don't have to
[15:10] <cchild> unop, iositd, thanks makes sense now
[15:11] <Rageon> yea but like do i just say open with gedbi package manager or?
[15:11] <Jeruvy> Rageon: what does the README say?
[15:11] <Rageon> what readme
[15:11] <Jeruvy> Rageon: look in the package
[15:12] <Rageon> dont have it yet, so i need to save... one sec
[15:12] <esteth> Rageon: downlaoded .deb files can be double clicked and a box pops up where you hit "install this"
[15:12] <soundray> Rageon: is there any reason why you're not installing lincity from the Ubuntu repositories?
[15:12] <cchild> and to the one who said so long i don't have any thing illegal on the drive, is not about anything illegal, it is about privacy. How would you like you phone calls tapped?
[15:12] <kZn> bonjour je cherche quelqu'un qui pourrait répondre à 2 3 questions, étant débutant...
[15:12] <Rageon> these guys sent me to getdeb lol
[15:12] <iositd> !fr | kZn
[15:12] <ubotu> kZn: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[15:12] <lain_> Hello, is it safe to resize my WinXP partition using GParted in Ubuntu? (I have a dual boot configuration)
[15:12] <soundray> !fr | kZn
[15:12] <Rageon> ahh cool
[15:13] <kZn> merci ;)
[15:13] <Jeruvy> cchild: you're ranting...whats your issue :)
[15:13] <legend2440> Rageon: openarena and lincity are both in synaptic
[15:13] <esteth> lain_: It is reasonably safe to boot from the live CD and run gparted from there. Trying to resize a mounted partition will cause serious problems. Also, no partition resizing operation is 100% safe.
[15:13] <soundray> lain_: remember, data you haven't backed up is data you don't want
[15:13] <lain_> esteth: Thanks. So if it's not 100% safe, should I not resize it..?
[15:14] <unop> lain_, it's the rule of the thumb to always make sure you have all data backed up before you do something like that with your harddrive -- but it is generally safe, yes
[15:14] <Rageon> is there any multiplayer games that lots of debian ppl play?
[15:14] <lain_> unop, soundray: Okay, thanks.
[15:14] <compwiz18> lain_: it is recommended to have a backup of all important data first :)
[15:14] <Lamego> lain_, it is safe, but as a general rule it is a safe practice to backup before doing partition changes
[15:14] <bazhang> Rageon: you really need to join #ubuntu-offtopic ;]
[15:14] <lain_> Lamego, compwiz18: Alright, I'll backup first, thanks.
[15:14] <cchild> Jeruvy, i guess you weren't following; but in any case my question has been answered
[15:14] <Jeruvy> cchild: I was...you were ranting
[15:15] <siraj> can any one tell me pls what is the format command in freedos not flushing data but full format
[15:15] <esteth> lain_: As the others have said. Backup anything important, then do your resizing from a liveCD unless you're not changing the partitions that you are using when ubuntu is loaded
[15:15] <cchild> Jeruvy, are you sure?
[15:15] <iositd> cchild, yes you were.
[15:15] <lain_> esteth: Okay.
[15:15] <iositd> now please, let's stop the useless discussion.
[15:15] <bazhang> indeed
[15:16] <Jeruvy> please
[15:16] <chmavr> hi!i am using hardy beta.my gpu is x1950pro agp version...which driver should i use??fglrx supports my card???
[15:16] <dgjones> !hardy | chmavr
[15:16] <ubotu> chmavr: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[15:16] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for 8.07 discussion thanks
[15:16] <esteth> i assume 8.07 is the april-fools name for 8.04?
[15:16] <iositd> bazhang, let's make that 8.04 :-)
[15:17] <mactaylor> will ubuntu speed up with 2 gigs of ram?
[15:17] <iositd> mactaylor, depends on how much you going from. It'll become faster if you increase it.
[15:17] <unop> 8.07 - hardy heron ultimate edition? :)
[15:17] <bazhang> iositd: check /topic in #ubuntu+1 ;]
[15:17] <mactaylor> 1gig
[15:17] <cchild> good day all and bye for now
[15:17] <iositd> bazhang, thank you <3 you made my day
[15:18] <firefeather> mactaylor: I think a good way to tell is if your swap is getting used a lot
[15:18] <bazhang> haha
[15:18] <chmavr> aanyone please?
[15:18] <mactaylor> 19.1MB
[15:18] <mactaylor> swap used
[15:18] <iositd> bazhang, "This is not #ubuntu"
[15:18] <soundray> chmavr: ask in #ubuntu+1
[15:18] <bazhang> chmavr: need to join #ubuntu+1
[15:18] <esteth> chmavr: #ubuntu+1 for hardy questions
[15:18] <mactaylor> vista used 1.3GB swap
[15:18] <bazhang> iositd: haha yeah
[15:18] <iositd> mactaylor, i used to run it just fine with 1gb of ram and no swap (7.10 that is)
[15:19] <chmavr> ok thanks!
[15:19] <firefeather> mactaylor: I doubt you will experience much of a speed increase but programs like GIMP may
[15:19] <mactaylor> ram usage hovers around 333MB out of 896MB.
[15:19] <mactaylor> 128MB is used by my gpu.
[15:19] <firefeather> So you should be all good but I'd love to have that much ram myself.
[15:20] <iositd> mactaylor, wait till you run heavier programs. I now top over 1,5gb most of the time :P
[15:21] <mactaylor> is it normal for ubuntu to use the 2 cores of my processor 50/50?
[15:21] <iositd> mactaylor, may happen yes
[15:21] <corinth> Where are the default Ubuntu wallpapers located?
[15:22] <mactaylor> corinth: /usr/share/backgrounds/
[15:22] <firefeather> corinth: I think they're in /usr/share/backgrounds/
[15:23] <mjanisz> hi! id' like to install ubuntu in a few days, however with upcoming release of 8.04 i'd like to ask if it's better to install 7.10 and dist-updgrade or do the same bur with 8.04b ?
[15:23]  * firefeather sees the topic and figures that Hardy's being delayed so it can have firefox 3 ;) j/k
[15:23] <jrib> mjanisz: depends on whether you want a stable system or not
[15:23] <unop> mjanisz, depends if you want to wait ~25 days or not?
[15:23] <bazhang> 23
[15:24] <firefeather> mjanisz: There can be problems with upgrading from the beta or RC to the full version that you don't get when you do a regular upgrade. Such was the case with Feisty -> Gutsy.
[15:24] <androo> i think they're in .
[15:24] <mjanisz> jrib: how unstable is 8.04b? i can wait 25 days as long as i have my system up and running. not quite production system, but for casual use
[15:24] <SpencerStarnes> If I want to build a Ubuntu Server. Will I have the ability to use FTP, WebDAV, Remote Access to the server, and NAS.
[15:24] <firefeather> mjanisz: It really depends on who you ask
[15:24] <bazhang> mjanisz: best try the livecd of gutsy and if you like it then try it--an upgrade to the next release is easy via the net
[15:24] <mjanisz> so you say it's better to install 7.10 and later on dist-upgrade?
[15:25] <mjanisz> bazhang: i know gutsy, i use it quite a lot and i know i like it, but i'm concerned about dist-upgrade to 8.04
[15:25] <soundray> mjanisz: is this the first time you will be installing ubuntu?
[15:25] <firefeather> mjanisz: It will tend to be better
[15:25] <bazhang> mjanisz: dont be concerned it is nice
[15:26] <mjanisz> so if it's more reliable to install 7.10 and later on upgrade to 8.04 than 8.04b->8.04 i believe i'll go with 7.10
[15:26] <jrib> mjanisz: if you're asking whether you should install it or not, I'd recommend 7.10
[15:26] <firefeather> mjanisz: But like I said...it really depends. I'm not trying it because I just got done reinstalling and I don't want to lose anything. On Planet Ubuntu they mention broken builds at times that won't boot or things like that, but I think those are the daily builds.
[15:27] <TrichomeKid> Hello..  I am getting the following message when booting:  "Undefined video mode number: 2f6".  Is there something I should change in my grub loader?
[15:27] <BBishop> if my monitor says I'm using 1280x1024 .. and I see that's 1280x1024 .. but the menubar and the app bar only look like 1024x768 .. what should I do ?
[15:27] <soundray> mjanisz: it's probably best to install gutsy or beta and do a fresh install when hardy is released
[15:27] <firefeather> mjanisz: If you're even considering doing a clean install of 8.04 when it comes out, I'd recommend making sure you have a separate /home/ partition
[15:27] <erUSUL> mjanisz: an upgrade is allways safer than a dist-upgrade imho
[15:28] <mjanisz> erUSUL: you mean a clean install, right?
[15:28] <firefeather> BBishop: Check your font size.
[15:28] <erUSUL> mjanisz: beta to final is an upgrade 7.10 to 8.04 is a dist-upgrade
[15:29] <LeGreffi3R> erUSUL> you can't be sure of your upgrade in a beta version...
[15:29] <CoastonCute> Dear Ubuntu Users. I am getting BLOODY SICK of both aMSN and Pidgin. Neither one can message cell phones
[15:29] <soundray> erUSUL: that's not how it's explained in man apt-get
[15:29] <LeGreffi3R> erUSUL> dist-upgrade stable -> stable+1 is way safer than upgrade in a beta...
[15:29] <pir> CoastonCute : are they supposed to?
[15:30] <CoastonCute> As far as I was aware at least the MSN clone would have it.
[15:30] <CoastonCute> MSN does after all
[15:30] <CoastonCute> It used to be a matter of throwing the cell no' in as the email
[15:30] <CoastonCute> but not any more apparently.
[15:30] <mjanisz> allright, i think the case is settled for me and i'll go with 7.10
[15:30] <firefeather> CoastonCute: I don't know if those porgrams have all the MSN features, but you might also try emesene
[15:30] <soundray> CoastonCute: this is a support channel. For sounding off, please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:30] <mjanisz> thanks!
[15:31] <BBishop> firefeather: well .. the app bar is limited to 1024x768 .. and so is xchat
[15:31] <CoastonCute> ok soundray, I'll be good. I was in here looking for advice and support, just It's been a long day so I have a short fuse.
[15:31] <BBishop> but firefox got on the whole screen
[15:31] <CoastonCute> so emesene has the mobile phone features?
[15:31] <legend2440> TrichomeKid: do you have an entry like vga=<some number> in menu.lst file?
[15:32] <bazhang> pidgin does irc right?
[15:32] <firefeather> CoastonCute: I don't know but when I had it installed it had most of the MSN features. If nothing else, their website may be useful in letting you know if it has that featuer before you download it.
[15:32] <TrichomeKid> legend2440: I was just about to see what that file looks like.. one second
[15:32] <soundray> bazhang: yes
[15:32] <bazhang> thanks soundray
[15:32] <firefeather> CoastonCute: http://www.emesene.org/
[15:33] <TrichomeKid> legend2440:  both entries are vga=758
[15:34] <legend2440> TrichomeKid: try passing vga=792 or vga=791
[15:34] <TrichomeKid> alright, thank you.
[15:34] <CoastonCute> Thank you Firefeather, I'll give it a shot,
[15:34] <TrichomeKid> legend2440: on both entries, correct?
[15:34] <legend2440> TrichomeKid: yes
[15:34] <firefeather> CoastonCute: no problem
[15:34] <CoastonCute> Next stupid question. once I have the source code, how would I go about installing it?
[15:35] <CoastonCute> Keeping in mind I've been on linux for about...3 days now.
[15:35] <TrichomeKid> legend2440:  alright, thanks a lot.  this must've gotten changed when i upgraded to the new beta
[15:35] <noppe> how would i format an external hdd with n partitions?
[15:35] <soundray> !compile | CoastonCute
[15:35] <compwiz18> CoastonCute: can you use the package manager? System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager?
[15:35] <ubotu> CoastonCute: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[15:35] <firefeather> CoastonCute: I wouldn't recommend installing it from source; I didn't realize; look for it in your repositories
[15:35] <bazhang> CoastonCute: why compile? if it is in the repos that is the best bet--if you want to compile then install build-essential
[15:35] <firefeather> CoastonCute: Where compwiz18 mentioned ;)
[15:36] <CoastonCute> I'm sorry, my brain just detonated.
[15:36] <CoastonCute> What?!
[15:36] <compwiz18> !packages | CoastonCute
[15:36] <ubotu> CoastonCute: You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords or regex>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[15:36] <compwiz18> the package manager makes it easy to install packages with a single click
[15:36] <compwiz18> none of this fancy visiting websites stuff :P
[15:36] <compwiz18> (well, multiple single clicks. about three, to be precise)
[15:36] <soundray> noppe: use gparted. Make sure you create no more than three primary partitions and make numbers 4 to n logical ones
[15:37] <firefeather> Oh, bad news; I can't find emesene in the Ubuntu repositories.
[15:38] <compwiz18> I'll check getdeb
[15:38] <CoastonCute> I see on emesene in the synaptic doowhatsit.
[15:38] <CoastonCute> no*
[15:38] <firefeather> compwiz18: Good idea
[15:38] <compwiz18> good news
[15:38] <compwiz18> http://getdeb.net/app/emesene
[15:38] <compwiz18> that should save you a lot of trouble
[15:39] <firefeather> CoastonCute: You're right; it's not there. Go to compwiz18's link and you can get an installer there.
[15:39] <CoastonCute> Brilliant. Thank you ^^
[15:39] <CoastonCute> How do I know which one to get?
[15:39] <compwiz18> I'm guessing you want Gutsy 32
[15:39] <CoastonCute> I don't know if I'm on 32 or 64 bits
[15:39] <compwiz18> if you don't know, you're probably on 32
[15:40] <CoastonCute> ok
[15:40] <compwiz18> it'll tell you if you're wrong when you try to install it
[15:40] <firefeather> It will also let you know if you ended up downloading the wrong one
[15:40] <compwiz18> just pick the other one if it complains
[15:40] <compwiz18> the software installing idea takes some getting used to sometimes
[15:40] <firefeather> compwiz18: You're just too fast of a typer for me to get an answer out :)
[15:40] <compwiz18> its a lot different then windows
[15:40] <DeadLy_sp> hey, somebody using irssi please?
[15:40] <jrib> CoastonCute: run uname -m
[15:40] <Lamego> actually emesene is arch indedepent :P
[15:40] <compwiz18> firefeather: ;)
[15:40] <amadeus> !349
[15:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 349 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:41] <CoastonCute> Hardware I can work. Building PC's is easy. Running them is a completely different game.
[15:41] <compwiz18> Lamego: which may be, but GetDeb doesn't seem to care too much about its Pythonness
[15:41] <balle> is there a place where i can DL new themes for gutsy?
[15:41] <compwiz18> art.gnome.org
[15:41] <bazhang> gnome-look.org
[15:41] <Lamego> compwiz18, yes it does, its an -all- package, the 2 archs is just the default organization
[15:41] <compwiz18> Lamego: ah
[15:41] <firefeather> balle: You can also find some in the repositories
[15:41] <compwiz18> this is what I get for not using getdeb very much
[15:42] <CoastonCute> The installers are easier to run then on winxp
[15:42] <Lamego> compbrain, this is what I get for managing it :P
[15:42] <compwiz18> Lamego: ah, cool :)
[15:42] <firefeather> balle: gnome-themes-extras has a few more things, including a dark theme called Darklooks
[15:43] <compwiz18> Lamego: I'm trying to think of a better way to display that it is arch independent, but I think that doing that would just confuse most people
[15:43] <balle> firefather: sudo apt-get install gnome-themes-extras?
[15:43] <firefeather> balle: Yep. Then look in your apperance preferences
[15:44] <maxagaz> is it possible to write using the mouse with Kopete ?
[15:44] <kippy> hey guys is there a way to change the boot splash screen on ubuntu?
[15:44] <firefeather> balle: It instals a couple of application themes (gtk themes), icon themes, and maybe even some window border themes (metacity)
[15:44] <xlrrn> can someone explain to me what ubuntu hardy (8.04) is? isn't 8.10 already out, hence the latest version? Why is 8.04 still undergoing development? Thanks.
[15:44] <maxagaz> there's a pen on my dialog window, but it's grey, I can't click on it
[15:44] <jrib> xlrrn: the latest version is 7.10
[15:44] <balle> firefather: i have lokked in the original themes, looking for something extra..
[15:44] <firefeather> xlrrn: 8.10 is the version that will come out in October of this year.
[15:45] <Lamego> kippy, I believe the startup manager provides such function
[15:45] <firefeather> balle: Those are new ones, though :)
[15:45] <xlrrn> jrib: oh my bad, 7.10, yes
[15:45] <firefeather> balle: Unless you looked in there before it got done installing
[15:45] <xlrrn> firefeather: thanks
[15:45] <jrib> !hardy | xlrrn
[15:45] <ubotu> xlrrn: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[15:45] <xlrrn> jrib: Wow, a new release already?
[15:45] <kippy> Lamego. is is installed by default? or we have to install it?
[15:45] <xlrrn> jrib: Is it recommended to upgrade right after the release?
[15:46] <balle> fireftather: installing now
[15:46] <firefeather> xlrrn: Every six months :)
[15:46] <Lamego> kippy, it is not installed by default
[15:46] <jughead> they try to keep a 6mo update schedule
[15:46] <xlrrn> firefeather: :O
[15:46] <boubbin> how top see which programs are using internet atm ?
[15:46] <CoastonCute> xD I have Pidgin, aMSN and emesene all trying to log in to the same account.
[15:46] <CoastonCute> GO ME
[15:46] <boubbin> s/top/to
[15:46] <kippy> can you guys point me to a resource that tell step by step all the events that occur when we boot a linux box?
[15:46] <jughead> jrib, do you know how often the LTS versions are released?
[15:47] <jrib> jughead: there's no fixed schedule for those
[15:47] <firefeather> xlrrn: And it's usually just fine to upgrade right after the release but usually it takes a while to download right after the release
[15:47] <jughead> kippy, there's a program I think it's called bootchart
[15:47] <firefeather> CoastonCute: D'oh!
[15:47] <firefeather> kippy: Bootchart, I think, will do that
[15:47] <Lamego> one would guess, an LTS needs to be released before the previous one gets to EOL
[15:47] <kippy> okay guys will look them up
[15:48] <CoastonCute> It's in and up and running, I'm not sure about it's ability to message phones, but it's prettier nonetheless so I am happy. Thank you for your help. ^^
[15:49] <firefeather> CoastonCute: No problem. I've also seen some other things that can do mobile messaging but I think they do it through your phone instead.
[15:49] <BBishop> so .. hardy will be delayed by 3 months starting when ?
[15:49] <firefeather> BBishop: April 1st
[15:49] <BBishop> that usx
[15:49] <CoastonCute> Yeah I've got a friend overseas and I'm trying to message their mobile
[15:50] <firefeather> BBishop: No, see, April FIRST :)
[15:50] <CoastonCute> So we can chat while one or t'other is at school
[15:50] <xlrrn> If I am using Ubuntu 7.10 Server edition, would that show in uname -a? Atm, it only shows Ubuntu 7.10, gutsy.
[15:50] <BBishop> ow ...
[15:50] <BBishop> ok .. and the official date is ... ?
[15:50] <ubuntuuserinneed> excuse me, but does anyone know how I can invoke the input method configuration in firefox? (or disable the input method autochange thing?)
[15:50] <kindofabuzz> CoastonCute: you just want to txt a phone?
[15:50] <firefeather> BBishop: April 24
[15:50] <BBishop> ubuntuuserinneed, f7 ?!
[15:50] <CoastonCute> In a way, but without having to get off my PC xD
[15:51] <ubuntuuserinneed> BBishop: doesn't seem to work in firefox, I can't use my keyboard in firefox
[15:51] <CoastonCute> I want the messages that come back to head to my MSN account as opposed to a phone or anything.
[15:51] <kindofabuzz> CoastonCute: just google free sms, there are plenty of websites that do free txt pc -to pbone
[15:51] <BBishop> weird
[15:51] <alexy> salut
[15:51] <CoastonCute> Bonjour
[15:51] <ubuntuuserinneed> It sometimes happens in xchat too, the input method changes for some reason... and I have to right-click and change to the default input method
[15:51] <firefeather> kindofabuzz: CoastonCute's got a point, though.
[15:51] <CoastonCute> Oh fine. We'll see what happens. xD Danke again
[15:52] <ubuntuuserinneed> (at least I can fix it in xchat that is, but yeah, for some reason in xchat it goes to x input method)
[15:52] <CoastonCute> I'd rather not have my messages directed past some sleazy old guy who beats off while reading them.
[15:52] <firefeather> !ohmy | CoastonCute
[15:52] <ubotu> CoastonCute: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[15:52] <CoastonCute> Sorry, my bad.
[15:53] <firefeather> CoastonCute: But I know what you mean :)
[15:53] <ubuntuuserinneed> (I kinda hate having to close and reopen firefox, have to load a ton of pages again and all...)
[15:53] <kindofabuzz> oh dounno about reicieving txt
[15:53] <DonaldShimoda> BBishop: really hardy is delayed?
[15:53] <DonaldShimoda> BBishop: the ubuntu page countdown is active
[15:53] <lksl> i use ubuntu what is sda1 ?
[15:53] <lksl> what that it mean ? sda1
[15:54] <CoastonCute> What I want to know is how can I supercharge 256 Megs of ram.
[15:54] <R3h4B> ubuntuuserinneed:  just set Firefox to "show my windows and tabs from last time"
[15:54] <xpoint> lksl, sda1 = Scsi Disk Array #1
[15:54] <ubuntuuserinneed> R3h4B: still reloads 'em
[15:54] <ubuntuuserinneed> especially youtube videos and the such
[15:54] <zosso> lksl: It is a Storage device, sometimes hard drive, sometimes usb flash drive, etc
[15:55] <R3h4B> ubuntuuserinneed:  but then they are fresh and tasty!
[15:55] <ubuntuuserinneed> R3h4B: hehehe
[15:55] <ubuntuuserinneed> odd... it's fixed now...
[15:55] <lksl> OK on a router what is the storage name ?
[15:55] <lksl> sda 1?
[15:56] <BBishop> DonaldShimoda, apri 1st joke .. I just also noticed
[15:56] <lksl> router in linux
[15:56] <DonaldShimoda> BBishop: god....
[15:56]  * ubuntuuserinneed checks if there's an entry for such things, will include a workaround
[15:57] <CoastonCute> OK! I'm outski, ciao everyone.
[15:57] <xlrrn> Is using tabs in Gnome-terminal the way to organize tabs?
[15:58] <firefeather> xlrrn: I'm not sure what you mean
[15:59] <Azur4> hey, i visited a site that requires adobe flash, I click on the install missing plugin, and it says that it is already installed, that firefox needs to be restarted, i restart firefox, it doesn't work, i restart my laptop, it still doesn't work.  Everytime I visit a site that needs the plugin, it has the "install missing plugin"  I didn't see it in synaptic either
[15:59] <wolfeySI> mhmm i try to work with nautilus and gedit over password protected ftp... and it takes forever i found http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-147799.html on google, 2 years old.. still same problem?! :)
[15:59] <wolfeySI> anyone has any idea about this?
[15:59] <firefeather> Azur4: What version of ubuntu and firefox?
[15:59] <erUSUL> Azur4: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[15:59] <wolfeySI> working directly to 'ftp folder' is great convinience to me
[15:59] <Azur4> Firefox 2, Ubuntu 7.10
[15:59] <jrib> Azur4: pastebin the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list and the output of the command 'apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree'
[15:59] <firefeather> Azur4: 64 or 32 bit?
[15:59] <Tomasso> how do i get the ubuntu version from command line?
[16:01] <Slart> Azur4: you can try removing the flash plugin and reinstalling it "sudo apt-get remove --purge flashplugin-nonfree" to remove it.. then visit the site again and let firefox install the flash plugin
[16:01] <jrib> !version | Tomasso
[16:01] <ubotu> Tomasso: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[16:01] <Azur4> firefeather: 32 bit
[16:01] <Tomasso> thanx
[16:01] <xlrrn> firefeather: Sorry, let me rephrase. I'm in a SSH session and I don't know how to use screen efficiently. I don't want to name screen windows, because I am constantly changing them. After C-a w to list the screen windows open, how do I easily jump to say window 2-$ bash?
[16:01] <firefeather> Azur4: Okay, my idea is out then.
[16:01] <Azur4> i think i'm gonna try to remove it like slart said
[16:01] <Pici> xlrrn: C-a 2
[16:01] <Slart> Azur4: I can't promise it will work.. but it's an easy fix if it does
[16:01] <firefeather> xlrrn: Tabs would work pretty well; note they keyboard shortcuts.
[16:02] <xlrrn> firefeather: I can use tabs in one SSH session?
[16:02] <ubuntuuserinneed> jrib what does that apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree do?
[16:02] <ubuntuuserinneed> because sometimes flash breaks for me...
[16:02] <xlrrn> Pici, thanks
[16:02] <jrib> ubuntuuserinneed: it just gives you package information
[16:02] <BBishop> is the beta stable enough to use ? ... when the final version will be out .. should anything else than apt-get update be done to get stable ?
[16:02] <firefeather> xlrrn: Depends on your program. I think if you ssh through bash, maybe not, but I think Putty (?) might have tabbed SSH
[16:03] <Slart> BBishop: try asking in #ubuntu+1 ... that's the official hardy support channel
[16:03] <firefeather> !ubuntu+1 BBishop
[16:03] <bieb> erUSUL are you here?
[16:03] <firefeather> Ach n/m
[16:03] <xlrrn> I just resized my WinXP NTFS partition using GParted LiveCD. I want to create a fat32 partition, but it won't let me, as "It is not possible to create more than 4 primary partitions." What should I do now? I don't quite understand what extended partitions are. Thanks.
[16:03] <Slart> BBishop: but the earlier versions have worked with a simple apt-get upgrade when the release is final
[16:03] <firefeather> Slart: already got it
[16:03] <erUSUL> BBishop: yes you will need a apt-get upgrade after the update ;)
[16:03] <erUSUL> bieb: yes
[16:04] <ubuntuuserinneed> jrib: oh okay thanks
[16:04] <BBishop> erUSUL, great :)
[16:04] <benanzo> What's up with the forums
[16:04] <ubuntuuserinneed> yep, flash broken again...
[16:04] <cristomartinez> viva-la-mocita-de-calañas
[16:04] <bieb> erUSUL, you and I were talking about fakeraid the other day. Can I create a software raid during the ubuntu install instead of using the BIOS managed fakeraid?
[16:05] <firefeather> benanzo: Looks like April fools to me :)
[16:05] <benanzo> Ahh yes -- almost forgot
[16:05] <ubuntuuserinneed> jrib: and I get this on the system log messages page: Apr  1 23:04:06 Sky kernel: [165393.874026] npviewer.bin[14449]: segfault at 0000000000000035 rip 00000000f7a6c6fe rsp 00000000ffd0b680 error 4
[16:06] <b4l74z4r> does anyone use oss along with an x-fi card in ubuntu, and if so, have you gotten sound in flash videos?
[16:06] <erUSUL> bieb: yes; i think that you can do that with the alternate cd... let check out...
[16:06] <jrib> ubuntuuserinneed: meh, nspluginwrapper is buggy, crashes all the time here too
[16:06] <bieb> ok
[16:06] <ubuntuuserinneed> heh
[16:06] <ubuntuuserinneed> I notice it crashes on some flashes with urls.... or something
[16:06] <ubuntuuserinneed> don't exactly know because some urls load perfectly fine
[16:06] <jaymacdonald> help
[16:06] <Leoha_Zveri> hi, sorry i'm new to linux ... at all, can someone help me please? can i change the gnome interface, on the KDE?
[16:06] <Leoha_Zveri> it's possible, at all?
[16:06] <cupcake> which is a good email client?
[16:07] <jaymacdonald> Apr  1 16:04:25 jay-desktop avahi-daemon[5899]: Joining mDNS multicast group on interface eth1.IPv4 with address 10.0.0.6.
[16:07] <jaymacdonald> Apr  1 16:04:25 jay-desktop avahi-daemon[5899]: IP_ADD_MEMBERSHIP failed: No buffer space available
[16:07] <jaymacdonald> anybody help?
[16:07] <erUSUL> bieb: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[16:07] <Slart> ubuntuuserinneed: some flash movies/applications crash the flash plugin.. it works with an earlier version of flash.. I guess Adobe is to blame
[16:07] <DjViper> cupcake: evolution?
[16:07] <cupcake> want email client that can filter 'from address'
[16:07] <firefeather> Leoha_Zveri: You can install kde-desktop package but you might want to read about it on the wiki first
[16:07] <Slart> cupcake: evolution or thunderbird are two popular clients
[16:07] <bieb> erUSUL thanks
[16:08] <firefeather> Leoha_Zveri: I mean kubuntu-desktop
[16:08] <ubuntuuserinneed> Slart: I never had such problems before 9.1.1.5 got released it seems
[16:08] <jaymacdonald> can anybody help with buffer space errors?
[16:08] <tretle> could someone tell me why the usplash progress bar is looping over and over before it does the final loading of 0-100%?
 thx, can you please give me a link pelase
[16:08] <Leoha_Zveri> please
[16:08] <Slart> ubuntuuserinneed: nope.. same here.. I had an older version installed in one separate version of firefox.. and it still runs all the problematic flash apps that crash the newest version
[16:09] <xlrrn> Hello, I just resized my WinXP NTFS partition using GParted LiveCD. I want to create a fat32 partition, but it won't let me, as "It is not possible to create more than 4 primary partitions." What should I do now? I don't quite understand what extended partitions are. Thanks.
[16:09] <ubuntuuserinneed> Slart: you can do that!?
[16:09] <cupcake> DjViper, will evolution have function to reapply filter rules to all existing emails?  if i have 500 emails on evolution, and lots of them are spam, can i apply filter or does filter need to be apply doing syn time (during POP3 update)
[16:09] <jeremy_> you whats cool i have limewire on limux lol
[16:09] <kippy> Leoha_zveri, try http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[16:09] <firefeather> Leoha_Zveri: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE
[16:09] <Slart> ubuntuuserinneed: well.. I use 64 bit ubuntu and I had installed a 32 bit firefox... it used it's own plugins and such... and it uses the older flash..
[16:09] <cupcake> Slart, ok.
[16:09] <kindofabuzz> jeremy_: want a cookie?
[16:09] <firefeather> xlrrn: I don't either, sorry
[16:09] <Leoha_Zveri> thanks a lot guys :)
[16:10] <jast-mxm> question about swap, I want to move my swap partition to the beginning of another drive, w/out restarting to a live cd, can i effectively disable swap, create the partition then turn it back on?
[16:10] <xlrrn> firefeather, thanks
[16:10] <jeremy_> i still have to find out how to register in here
[16:10] <ubuntuuserinneed> Slart: sounds kinda complicated...
[16:10] <xlrrn> i'll do more Googling then
[16:10] <firefeather> xlrrn: Sounds like that's what it'll have to be... :S
[16:10] <Slart> ubuntuuserinneed: well.. it was the only way to get flash to work before
[16:10] <xlrrn> firefeather, heh
[16:10] <MrMist> quick question... I need to run X completely without OpenGL hardware acceleration on my laptop.. the fans on my GPU runs like hell with the standard installation of Ubuntu
[16:10] <ubuntuuserinneed> jeremy: /nickserv help
[16:10] <MrMist> Is there any way to disable GL acceleration of X?
[16:11] <Slart> MrMist: disable desktop effects in System, appearance
[16:11] <jaymacdonald> could someone tell me why I get buffer space errors?!?!?!
[16:11] <cupcake> Slart, djennewe , i plan to use an email client in the next few days, and pop3 all emails. then when ubuntu 8 comes, out, i want to do a fresh install.  which email client have better migration ablities?
[16:11] <MrMist> Slart: and that will disable xgl alltogether ?
[16:11] <Slart> MrMist: I'm not sure.. but it will cut back on the usage of the gpu
[16:12] <cupcake> Slart, djennewe migration abilities as in a single PST file for ms outlook
[16:12] <Slart> cupcake: well.. I guess both are free, open source etc.. shouldn't be a problem with either
[16:12] <Zmine> jeremy_ you don't have to register in here..you register on the server so then you're nick is registered no matter what channel you go into
[16:12] <MrMist> Slart: Of course... but I want to disable it altogether
[16:13] <soundray> MrMist: are you sure this is a GPU-related problem?
[16:13] <cupcake> Slart, i can port evolution email into thunderbird?
[16:13] <Slart> cupcake: if you think the pst-file approach is a good one then yes.. both clients have excellent migration tools =)
[16:13] <ron_asheton> how do I see my machine's external IP address? I'm behind a router
[16:13] <cupcake> Slart, thx
[16:13] <firefeather> cupcake: In thunderbird, you can back up your profile and then restore it after the reinstall as long as you back it up to a place that's safe during the reinstall
[16:13] <MrMist> soundray: No. But it's worth trying it out
[16:13] <kindofabuzz> ron_asheton: whatismyip.com
[16:13] <unop> ron_asheton, browse to www.ipchicken.com
[16:13] <Zmine> jeremy_ you just if you type /msg nickserv help it gives you the steps, it's easy and fast and you pick your own password
[16:13] <DonaldShimoda> ron_asheton: www.wichismeip.com
[16:13] <Slart> ron_asheton: go to  http://www.whatismyip.com
[16:14] <soundray> MrMist: I suggest disabling X altogether (sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop) to see if your fans calm down
[16:14] <soundray> MrMist: in my experience, these problems tend to be ACPI- rather than graphics-related
[16:14] <soundray> MrMist: does acpi -V give you a sensible readout?
[16:14] <jeremy_> ok i get this when i try 2 register Syntax: REGISTER <password>
[16:14] <Slart> whichismeip? is that like an irish version? ey, laddie.. which s'me ip? =)
[16:15] <ron_asheton> isn't there a way to see it in the shell? that's what I'm curious
[16:15] <cupcake> firefeather, sound like i need to use "export" and "import" command within the email client.  will it work if i just place the backup_files manually in /home/user/.somewhere/someplace ?
[16:15] <Zmine> right...see where it says password...you type the password you want to use
[16:15] <Slart> ron_asheton: nothing really easy.. might be some weird telnet service out there or something
[16:15] <jeremy_> k thanks
[16:15] <Zmine> I know you had probs with it yesterday so hope it works today for you
[16:15] <firefeather> cupcake: yes, to a degree; see http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_backup
[16:15] <neverblue> morning
[16:16] <firefeather> cupcake: I'm not saying Thunderbird's the best solution because I don't know how Evolution or other clients do it; I'm just familiar with Thunderbird, so...
[16:16] <balle> last time i used the drivers for my graphics card an nvidie 6600 go i think, it totally messed up the screen, but i would like the visual enhancements and the use of another screen, so is there a safe way to enable the restricted drivers?
[16:17] <soundray> ron_asheton: lynx -dump whatismyip.com
[16:17] <egoleo> hello friends
[16:17] <MrMist> soundray: hmm... sadly, I don't have the laptop with me
[16:17] <egoleo> i am runing exim4 on ubuntu server and i can send mails but can not send mail to my mailserver rather
[16:17] <firefeather> cupcake: I gotta go, though. See ya
[16:18] <soundray> ron_asheton: lynx -dump whatismyip.com
[16:18] <egoleo> and when i try telnet too it gives me refused connection on port 25
[16:18] <gegema> When following a help doc on the ubuntu website on setting up Wordpress, I ran a command that has changed my mysql root password>> tried sudo /etc/init.d/mysql reset-password and it is not working (hardy beta)
[16:18] <jeremy_> still need help registering
[16:18] <MTecknology> where does wine put entries in for default menu items? anybody know?
[16:18] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for hardy gegema
[16:19] <jeremy_> do i put a nick name i first then a password?
[16:19] <DRebellion> jeremy_, /msg nickserv register yourpassword
[16:19] <jeremy_> do i put a nick name in first then a password?
[16:19] <Randomtime> ya
[16:19] <gegema> bazhang: my question is on how to re-set a mysql root password, which am sure can be answered here
[16:19] <ron_asheton> there should be an easy shell tool for that... "ifconfig" doesn't tell about external addresses
[16:19] <jeremy_> do i type that in?
[16:19] <neverblue> DRebellion, might want to mention to not do it in the channel, as a password maybe exposed
[16:20] <neverblue> jeremy_, you copy/paste
[16:20] <soundray> gegema: if you have problems following a tutorial, it may well be because of something that's changed in hardy, so go ask in the appropriate channel.
[16:20] <neverblue> jeremy_, as it is text
[16:20] <soundray> ron_asheton: did you get my suggestion?
[16:20] <DRebellion> neverblue, only if he leaves out the slash, and then we can all laugh at his fail
[16:20] <jeremy_> didnt do anything
[16:20] <neverblue> jeremy_, and yes, obviously, you dont want your password to be 'yourpassword'
[16:20] <bastid_raZor> on 7.10 liveCD scp is installed already?
[16:20] <metbsd_> scp is from ssh
[16:21] <OsamaK> Hello! Look at this problem : osama@osama-laptop:~$ dpkg --configure -a
[16:21] <OsamaK> dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[16:21] <OsamaK> osama@osama-laptop:~$
[16:21] <neverblue> DRebellion, he has been fighting with registering since yesterday, I wouldn't be suprised by anything s/he does
[16:21] <jeremy_> ok i wanna use my nick papi2sexy517
[16:21] <OsamaK> What does that mean?
[16:21] <bastid_raZor> metbsd_; that doesn't answer if it is already installed.
[16:21] <Azur4> Ok flash is working now, but some sites that i normally viewed in windoze won't work still, (mlgpro.com, flash is working cuz I used youtube to test)
[16:21] <neverblue> jeremy_, lovely
[16:21] <soundray> OsamaK: it means you should run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[16:21] <DRebellion> OsamaK, prefix the command with "sudo"
[16:21] <metbsd_> i'm not answering any question
[16:21] <jeremy_> u have 2 bare with me im still now
[16:22] <metbsd_> what makes you think i'm responding you?
[16:22] <jeremy_> new
[16:22] <OsamaK> ok thanks both DRebellion, soundray
[16:22] <ron_asheton> soundray, yes... it works, but I'm curious to see some internal tool that does the same
[16:22] <neverblue> !sudo | OsamaK
[16:22] <ubotu> OsamaK: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[16:22] <OsamaK> well
[16:22] <neverblue> jeremy_, I think that has obsolutely nothing to do with anything
[16:22] <bastid_raZor> metbsd_; if you don't know.. keep quiet :)
[16:22] <soundray> ron_asheton: how would an 'internal' tool see your outside address?
[16:22] <Zmine> jeremy_ that's fine
[16:22] <jeremy_> what do i type 2 register my nick as papi2s17
[16:23] <neverblue> jeremy_, first rule of IRC: you need to be able to read
[16:23] <metbsd_> no i don't want to keep quiet you newbie
[16:23] <soundray> bastid_raZor: yes, scp comes with openssh-client, which is part of the Desktop CD
[16:23] <Zmine> neverblue, jeremy_ is trying to register on this server and having problems
[16:23] <jeremy_> ok
[16:23] <neverblue> jeremy_, second: you need to know how to type
[16:23] <ron_asheton> soundray, god only knows
[16:23] <metbsd_> newbie, scp is part of openssh, rtfm
[16:23] <ron_asheton> ehehe
[16:23] <Zmine> jeremy_ you have to change your nick to that when you register, otherwise it will register the nick you're using now
[16:23] <soundray> metbsd_: do not call people newbies here
[16:23] <metbsd_> ok
[16:23] <metbsd_> hey expert
[16:23] <jeremy_> ok
[16:24] <dgjones> jeremy_, you need to change your nick to whatever you want to register, then type  "/msg nickserv register <your-password>"
[16:24] <bazhang> metbsd_: please stop
[16:24] <bastid_raZor> soundray; excellent.. i'm going to use the liveCD to scp some things that doesn't have internet access.. LAN only.. thanks
[16:24] <metbsd_> stop what?
[16:24] <bazhang> !coc > metbsd_
[16:24] <Zmine> jeremy_ you don't have to log off to change your nick..just type /nick and then type what you want your nick to be
[16:24] <Pici> !rtfm | metbsd_
[16:24] <ubotu> metbsd_: Acronyms or statements like  noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[16:25] <bazhang> wow he actually said that
[16:25] <metbsd_> ok expert
[16:25] <Creationist> ANyone able to tell me why Firefox constantly stops working?  I mean, it doesn't crash, it just stops loading pages (they sit on "Loading..." indefinitely).  I have to restart Firefox to keep browsing... happens after about a half hour of surfing... every time.
[16:25] <Slart> ron_asheton: I don't know if this works for you.. but try this in a terminal "wget -q -O /dev/stdout http://www.whatismyip.com/automation/n09230945.asp"
[16:25] <neverblue> lol @ bazhang
 :Erroneous Nickname (what is that i did what u told me 2 do
[16:25] <Zmine> jeremy_ and like dgjones said after you are using the nick you want to use, then type /msg nickserv register and then type the password you want to use
[16:25] <metbsd_> read some document, everyknow that scp and sftp are from ssh pack
[16:26] <bazhang> Creationist: have you tired upping the cache for firefox?
[16:26] <metbsd_> bastid_raZor: you should just use windows. you don't belong here expert
[16:26] <soundray> metbsd_: the issue has been dealt with. Move on now please.
[16:26] <Creationist> bazhang: Make it larger, you mean?
[16:26] <jeremy_> what is this <papi2sexy517> :Erroneous Nickname
[16:26] <bazhang> Creationist: worth a shot
[16:26] <dgjones> jeremy_, what irc client are you using?
[16:27] <jeremy_> what u mean?? irc
[16:27] <Creationist> bazhang: Okay, I changed it from 50 to 500
[16:27] <Zmine> jeremy_ is that the nick you want to use? the papi nick?
[16:27] <chdst> Could someone !mp3 > me? My client is intercepting bangs and I'm too lazy to fix it right now. Thanks. :)
[16:27] <bazhang> Creationist: that should be sufficient ;]
[16:27] <Creationist> bazhang: But I have it cleared every time I exit... not sure why it would make a difference.
[16:27] <Slart>  !mp3 | chdst
[16:27] <ubotu> chdst: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[16:27] <chdst> Slart: Thank you.
[16:27] <Slart>  !mp3 > chdst
[16:27] <jeremy_> so i did it right thats y it says this <papi2sexy517> :Erroneous Nickname
[16:27] <bazhang> heh
[16:27] <dgjones> jeremy_, the #ubuntu channel you're talking in now is a channel on IRC, what program are you using to access this channel?
[16:28] <bazhang> probably too long jeremy_
[16:28] <soundray> jeremy_: I don't think you can have < and > characters in the nick
[16:28] <bazhang> jeremy_: how about just pa?
[16:28] <jeremy_> lol ok hold on ok
[16:28] <Zmine> jeremy_ don't type the < > parts
[16:29] <jessica_> !paste
[16:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[16:29] <Zmine> jeremy_ just type /nick and then type the nick you want to use and don't use the < >
[16:29] <Halan> hey whats a good midi player for ubuntu that shows some notes or so too? totme doesnt play em even with gstreamer-plugins-bad
[16:29] <balle> last time i used the drivers for my graphics card an nvidie 6600 go i think, it totally messed up the screen, but i would like the visual enhancements and the use of another screen, so is there a safe way to enable the restricted drivers?
[16:29] <jessica_> !beryl
[16:30] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[16:30] <Slart> Halan: timidity can play midis.. but you won't get the notes..
[16:30] <z>  8-)
[16:30] <z>  :o
[16:30] <jessica_> !compiz
[16:30] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[16:30] <z>  :p '<
[16:30] <Pici> z: Please stop
[16:30] <Pici> !msgthebot | jessica_
[16:30] <ubotu> jessica_: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[16:30] <mechanicalchris> is there a way to make the cube flip vertical in compiz?
[16:30] <SErge> after i reboot the ubuntu, the internet connection losts, and when try to ping gateway i got network unreacheable
[16:30] <SErge> what i have done wrong?
[16:30] <z> what country here ????????????????????????
[16:30] <SErge> have lost
[16:30] <Zmine> jeremy_ cool! lol you did it
[16:30] <Slart> !en | z
[16:30] <ubotu> z: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[16:31] <unop_> z, one question mark's enough
[16:31] <murlidhar> i have installed klavaro typing tutor . But the language setting is different . how do i make it to english . right now it is showing some language i am don't understand
[16:31] <papisexy> ok
[16:31] <papisexy> its me jeremy
[16:31] <Zmine> jeremy_ you might of been able to use all of the nick you had before..it wasn't too long, it was messed up because you used the < >
[16:31] <papisexy> ok now how do i do the password now
[16:31] <balle> last time i used the drivers for my graphics card an nvidie 6600 go i think, it totally messed up the screen, but i would like the visual enhancements and the use of another screen, so is there a safe way to enable the restricted drivers?
[16:31] <z>  ;)
[16:31] <Slart> !ru | z
[16:31] <ubotu> z: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[16:31] <FreddyPG> papi?
[16:31] <FreddyPG> :D
[16:31] <bazhang> papisexy: /nick newnick
[16:31] <balle> smoke time..
[16:31] <esox> Hi, I have an issue on boot sequence on Gutsy. Its a fresh install but the boot pauses for almost 1 minute after Starting MTA, it displays lines "[sd] 3:0:0:0: [sdc] assuming drive cache : write through" several times then boot continues and I cn log
[16:31] <Pici> !offtopic
[16:31] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[16:32] <Zmine> jeremy_ make sure that's what you want for the nick, if you want what oyu had before then use that
[16:32] <mechanicalchris> I lost my bottom panel. How do I get it back
[16:32] <papisexy> i need 2 know how 2 put a password in
[16:32] <dgjones> papisexy, /msg nickserv register yourpassword  (with yourpassword replaced with whatever you want to use)
[16:32] <smellynose> HOLS
[16:32] <blue-frog> mechanicalchris: right click on the top one and add new panel
[16:32] <smellynose> ME DOTH LIKE 2 CLUB SEALS
[16:33] <Pici> odd.
[16:33] <Zmine> jeremy_ now that you have a nick you want to use type /nickserv register ..and after that type the password you want to use
[16:34] <Zmine> papisexy if that's the nick you want to use and not the one you tried before then just type /register and type in the password you want right after the word register
[16:35] <Zmine> papisexy just make sure it's a password you'll remember
[16:36] <papisexy> not working
[16:36] <Zmine> papisexy it will show you on the status windwow if it worked
[16:36] <papisexy>  /register then the password
[16:36] <Pici> papisexy: may I pm?
[16:37] <papisexy> yes
[16:37] <kippy> Hey guys i have installed gimpshop but it still shows the interface of gimp editor
[16:37] <dgjones> papisexy, you need to remove the space in front of the " /" that might be the problem
[16:37] <kippy> ay ideas what could be wrong?
[16:37] <Christina18> Hi there!
[16:37] <Zmine> Pici he has to have his nick registered for pm
[16:37] <Domain> im lost
[16:37] <Pici> Zmine: I'm setup to allow unregged nicks to pm me.
[16:37] <kindofabuzz> does irc open port 79?
[16:37] <balle> last time i used the drivers for my graphics card an nvidie 6600 go i think, it totally messed up the screen, but i would like the visual enhancements and the use of another screen, so is there a safe way to enable the restricted drivers?
[16:37] <Zmine> Pici cool, I didn't know that
[16:38] <Christina18> Is there a easy way to remove html tags from within a query - like SELECT fieldwithhtmltags AS fieldwithouthtmltags FROM randomtable ?
[16:38] <Zmine> Pici then maybe if you pm him that will help him more
[16:38] <Pici> Zmine: I am :)
[16:38] <soundray> Christina18: perhaps you should ask that question in #mysql
[16:38] <Zmine> Pici, thanks :)
[16:39] <kippy> offtopic Christina, but there are utility functions in php, asp etc to do just that
[16:39] <Pici> kindofabuzz: 79?  irc connects on ports 6667-7000 and 8001 typically.  Depends network to network.
[16:39] <anoop> hai
[16:39] <finux> guys got a wireless issue in 8.04 it's a little strange to say the least
[16:39] <Christina18> soundray: you r right! ;-9
[16:39] <Pici> finux: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[16:39] <finux> cheers Pici
[16:39] <kindofabuzz> Pici: just did a scan, says port 79 (finger) is open, figured it was from irc
[16:39] <mcknight> hi,every one ^_^
[16:39] <Andrewm> this command isn't working?? ls -R *.txt  Am I doing something wrong?
[16:39] <unop_> kindofabuzz, i think it depends if the IRC server uses finger to find out which user you are
[16:40] <soundray> Andrewm: what do you expect it to do, and what does it do?
[16:40] <kindofabuzz> well evidently it is
[16:40] <Andrewm> soundray: list all text files in all subdirectories
[16:40] <unop_> AndrewB, you want to use find there -- find /directory -iname "*.txt"
[16:40] <unop_> Andrewm, ^^
[16:41] <Andrewm> unop_: soundray: ok thanks!
[16:41] <unop_> Andrewm, or use  ls -R | grep -i .txt
[16:42] <esox> no body can help about my "starting MTA" issue ?
[16:42] <LadyNikon> esox: if you dont get help here try the forums
[16:43] <Jaymac> heh, I love distrowatch's April Fool - nearly got me
[16:43] <esox> LadyNikon: I tried on ubuntu-fr but no chance...
[16:43] <kippy> Guys, gimpshop interface is not showing up, i have installed gimpshop but still get the gimp editor interface
[16:44] <LadyNikon> Is there a way to make copy and pasting less suck?  I would like to be able to use the right click instead of the wheel mouse.  Also I would like to be able to highlight a link and delete it without losing what I already have copied.
[16:44] <kindofabuzz> Jaymac: did you see gmail's april fool?  they started a sevice where you can make your emails delivered from the past lol
[16:44] <LadyNikon> esox: did you try forums.ubuntu.org?
[16:45] <Jaymac> kindofabuzz: no didn't.. was wondering what Google had come up with this year
[16:45] <soundray> LadyNikon: unfortunately, copying and pasting is quite deeply embedded in X. I find that things get a little easier if you use glipper
[16:45] <SErge> i have problem with hardy and feisty system
[16:45] <Pici> !offtopic
[16:45] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[16:45] <SErge> the same error, network unreachable
[16:45] <xlrrn> what is that system information bar i see in a lot of screenshots called?
[16:45] <LadyNikon> why is welcome at the end of that trigger?
[16:45] <LadyNikon> soundray: hmmm glipper
[16:45] <xlrrn> it's usually on the right side, with things like cpu and mem info
[16:46]  * LadyNikon fires up synaptic
[16:46] <SErge> Ehh
[16:46] <unop_> LadyNikon, you could also look into xclipboard
[16:46] <SErge> who can suggest me a good stable disto, not buggiest ubuntu
[16:46] <SErge> i think debian is a good chose
[16:46] <zerosignal> heres a question... I had to stop using the restricted nvidia drivers on my laptop using the go 6600 because I attempted to upgrade and had problems.  Now I have official nvidia legacy drivers installed which are working fine.
[16:46] <LadyNikon> unop_: would that run better under fluxbox?
[16:46] <zerosignal> Question is how can I access the appearence tab to control turning compiz on and off?
[16:47] <xlrrn> SErge, you can give 7.04 a try
[16:47] <zerosignal> every time I attempt to change from none and custom it asks me to install restricted video drivers
[16:47] <LadyNikon> zerosignal: if you are in gnome I believe you can right click and get to the display properties
[16:47] <unop_> LadyNikon, i use it under fluxbox .. it doesnt cure your problem, it just makes it easier managing multiple selections
[16:47] <mutew> Hi..how does one increase the resolution in the virtual terminals (Ctrl + Alt + F[1-6])?
[16:47] <zerosignal> yea I can but what about controlling turning compiz on and off from the appearance app?
[16:47] <mutew> I am running Ubuntu Hardy Heron.
[16:47] <SErge> xlrrn, the feisty is also return me the same problem, with gutsy it's ok, but i don't want to use anything more from ubuntu..
[16:48] <LadyNikon> unop_: seems like its the same with glipper
[16:48] <xlrrn> SErge: what kind of problem?
[16:48]  * LadyNikon sigh
[16:48] <unop_> LadyNikon, yea, but xclipboard should already be installed -- and glipper is a gnome util , i believe
[16:49] <rbil> mutew: one way is to change Grub, see this article .... http://www.mepis.org/node/2992
[16:49] <kindofabuzz> new systemrescuecd out for those that use it
[16:49] <Tonren> I'm trying to convert from ogg to mp3 using "ffmpeg -i audio.ogg -acodec mp3 audio.mp3", but it's telling me "Unsupported codec for output stream #0.0".  I installed "lame" and "liblame-dev".
[16:49] <LadyNikon> unop_: yeah i have gnome lemme look up xclip
[16:49] <bastid_raZor> zerosignal; you're on gutsy right? if so system>preference>appearance> visual tab .. that will turn compiz on and off
[16:49] <SErge> xlrrn, the connection with internet after reboot have lost, when try ping gateway got - network unreachable .. i have read on some forum that there can be an error with kernel or some modules..
[16:50] <LadyNikon> unop_: so you just run this?
[16:50] <balle> last time i used the drivers for my graphics card an nvidie 6600 go i think, it totally messed up the screen, but i would like the visual enhancements and the use of another screen, so is there a safe way to enable the restricted drivers?
[16:50] <zerosignal> bastid_raZor; Yea I am on gutsy but whenever I goto the visual tab to turn compiz on and off its saying that I need to enable the restricted graphics driver... I dont want to enable that because it doesnt work on my system
[16:50] <kindofabuzz> balle: clcik the check box
[16:50] <zerosignal> I already have the official nvidia driver installed and if I use 'compiz --replace' it is able to function properly
[16:51] <ToroT> Hi, Does anyone know how to configure windows agent for Nagios ?? I can't find the 'windows.cfg' file
[16:51] <LadyNikon> !fluxbox
[16:51] <Ubotwo> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gutsy and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[16:51] <Aparicio> hi all
[16:51] <unop_> LadyNikon, yea, it should have a GUI thing (quite obscure) .. but it also has a CLI interface i believe which can be used to cook up some interesting keyboard shortcuts
[16:51] <LadyNikon> uh
[16:51] <balle> kindofabuzz: yea, when i restart my screen is totally weird with screens in each other and then i have to reinstall the whole thing...
[16:51] <LadyNikon> did i just get KDE when doing the floxbox trigger?
[16:51] <LadyNikon> O.o
[16:51] <xlrrn> SErge, has your network connection worked on another OS?
[16:51] <Klanticus> does someone know how to change the default gcc version?
[16:51] <zerosignal> so in my case do I need to disable restricted drivers?
[16:51] <kindofabuzz> xlrrn: there are other od's?!?
[16:52] <bastid_raZor> zerosignal; #compiz-fusion may be a better place to ask for help,.. they do well with graphics issues
[16:52] <soundray> LadyNikon: you did. Maybe it's because ubotu has been banned
[16:52] <kindofabuzz> os's*
[16:52] <zerosignal> ok
[16:52] <LadyNikon> soundray: oops?
[16:52] <kindofabuzz> =)
[16:52] <Piffer> How can I check my drive for errors? fscheck?
[16:52] <SErge> xlrrn, yes, on ubuntu after installing it the network goes ok, but after i have installed a restreicted driver and reboot system, the network dosen't work
[16:52] <Helix_> Hi all
[16:52] <xlrrn> SErge, what restricted driver?
[16:53] <xlrrn> SErge, maybe the issue isn't with Ubuntu then but the restricted driver?
[16:53] <soundray> Piffer: fsck tests the filesystem integrity. For tests closer to the drive's hardware, have a look at smartmontools
[16:53] <SErge> xlrrn, nvidia .. but i have removed back the driver and nothing have changed to network..
[16:53] <Helix_> How can I give the right to non-root user to restart mysql using : /etc/init.d/mysql restart
[16:54] <zerosignal> no one is responding in compiz-fusion or nvidia...
[16:54] <zerosignal> awesome
[16:54] <SErge> ok,thanks to help me
[16:54] <erUSUL> Helix_: man sudoers
[16:54] <unop_> Helix_, look into /etc/sudoers
[16:54] <SErge> anyone know, is possible to burn an iso from ubuntu Live cd ?
[16:54] <xlrrn> SErge, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297916
[16:55] <Svenstaro_> SErge, if you have two drives, yes
[16:55] <Helix_> erUSUL: I know the sudo program.. but I just want to restrict their permissions to the /etc/init.d/mysql script
[16:55] <Helix_> sudo gives ponctual rights escalation, but to any script
[16:55] <soundray> Helix_: read man sudoers and it'll become clear
[16:56] <jcarlos21br> boa tarde a todos!!!
[16:56] <genii> Helix_: In the sudoers file you can create command aliases then allow specific users to only run those
[16:56] <Piffer> thans
[16:56] <Lamego> !br | jcarlos21br
[16:56] <Ubotwo> jcarlos21br: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[16:56] <Piffer> *thanks
[16:56] <Lamego> !pt | jcarlos21br
[16:56] <Ubotwo> jcarlos21br: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[16:56] <Helix_> genii: ok thanks
[16:57] <erUSUL> Helix_: adding a line to the sudoers file like "user command" (check the correct syntax) can give the user to run that only binary
[16:57] <unop_> Ubotwo has a lot to learn.
[16:57] <Ubotwo> unop_: Error: "has" is not a valid command.
[16:57] <unop_> :)
[16:58] <Halan> why isnt gnome able to exectue a .bin file if its set to executable
[16:58] <kindofabuzz> lol
[16:58] <Halan> also i dont fin dosmething like right click execute in terminal
[16:58] <bazhang> the bot is doing a april fool joke on us all ;]
[16:58] <unop_> Halan, not all .bin files are executables
[16:59] <Halan> unop_:  i know (dont like that btw) i go on preferences and set it to execute this file
[16:59] <Halan> but i still have to use the terminal so it really gets executed...
[16:59] <kindofabuzz> Ubotwo, domo arigato
[16:59] <Ubotwo> kindofabuzz: Error: "domo" is not a valid command.
[16:59] <kindofabuzz> !domo arigato
[16:59] <Ubotwo> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[16:59] <unop_> Halan, you can give execute rights to a .txt file, but will the file still execute? no, right
[17:00] <frank_> I'm guessing the 3 months delay is an April Fools?
[17:00] <Halan> unop_: but doing ./file.bin in the terminal works
[17:00] <PurpZeY> !ipod > PurpZeY
[17:00] <Halan> but when i do it wiht gnome it still looks for a app to open it
[17:00] <soundray> frank_: you're right, it's really 5 months delay
[17:00] <go> dont know why have a problem with installing airjack on my ubuntu 7.10
[17:00] <Yodude> hey will hardy shipo a beta firefox version when released or will u guys go back to version 2 ?
[17:00] <j1mb0-920> could someone explain how to speed up running ubuntu out of an xwindow session?
[17:00] <free1> Hardy is not going to be released in April??
[17:01] <bazhang> free1: just a april fool's joke
[17:01] <erUSUL> !schedule > free1
[17:01] <ai3gtmc> help i cant install java
[17:01] <erUSUL> !java > ai3gtmc
[17:01] <free1> wooo!
[17:01] <Frijolie> anyone know of a pwdump/fgdump alternative native to Linux? Google can't find one
[17:01] <free1> that's good game
[17:01] <mcknight> quit
[17:01] <ai3gtmc> on firefox it get's stuck in Translation-en_US package
[17:01] <Halan> im just hoping htat gnome will soon have soemthing like a exectue in terminal optin or so
[17:01] <frank_> well the last LTS release WAS released 2 months late. So not completely unbelievable...
[17:02] <Halan> also execute as superuser
[17:02] <JoeLinux117> ai3gtmc:  Are you installing from source?
[17:02] <ai3gtmc> nope
 What you problem&
[17:02] <ai3gtmc> in firefox plugin
[17:02] <go> airjack.c:43:27: error: pcmcia/config.h: No such file or directory
[17:02] <ai3gtmc> viru0, on firefox it get's stuck in Translation-en_US package
[17:02] <Scunizi> How do I ls serial ports for device discovery.. not usb.. db9 or db25?
[17:02] <go> anyone plzz
[17:02] <soundray> frank_: but that delay was announced end of Februrary
[17:02] <JoeLinux117> ai3gtmc:  What Java version are you trying?
[17:02] <j1mb0-920> help - I am running gnome-session out of xwindow using putty and the response time is extremely slow
[17:02] <free1> is there any way to ensure that when I send an email in a different language character set, that the other side won't see it as some kind of crazy jibberish cahracter?
[17:03] <balle> last time i used the drivers for my graphics card an nvidie 6600 go i think, it totally messed up the screen, but i would like the visual enhancements and the use of another screen, so is there a safe way to enable the restricted drivers?
[17:03] <free1> characters?
[17:03] <frank_> soundray: your memory seems better than mine ;-)
[17:03] <j1mb0-920> both machines are connected via a switch
[17:03] <free1> I think it's that people in Europe use unicode
[17:03] <Scunizi> balle, i have a 6600 with no issues
[17:03] <JoeLinux117> ai3gtmc:  Try "sudo aptitude install sun-java6-plugin"
[17:03] <viru0> Hello, i'm from Russia!
[17:03] <bazhang> !ru | viru0
[17:03] <z> help me.....
[17:03] <ai3gtmc> ok
[17:03] <free1> viru0:  как ба
[17:04] <JoeLinux117> ai3gtmc:  Let me know if that works.
[17:04] <erUSUL> free1: ubuntu use utf-8 unicode
[17:04] <viru0> Что ба?
[17:04] <erUSUL> |ru
[17:04] <erUSUL> !ru
[17:04] <bazhang> viru0: please /j #ubuntu-ru thanks
[17:04] <free1> viru0:  I do not know, the Russian keyboard is crazy
[17:04] <balle> Scunizi: i have one with problems, or previous problems none the less
[17:05] <cube> so what is being added to hardy heron to cause the 3 month delay?
[17:05] <bazhang> cube what day is today?
[17:05] <Scunizi> cube. when was the delay announced?
[17:05] <kindofabuzz> cube: they are merging with windows
[17:05] <JoeLinux117> lol
[17:05] <brad_mssw> is it possible to make / read-only with ubuntu (specifically want to do this for an embedded [soekris] system)?  I've got /var on it's own partition and /tmp as a tmpfs, which I would think would be all that is needed ... it seems as though when you make / read-only, /var doesn't mount properly (really odd, mount shows it mounted, but it seems like something else has mounted on top of it).  Perhaps I should just remount / as read-only _after_ boot? any
[17:05] <brad_mssw>  suggestions here?
[17:05] <jpatrick> Scunizi: /topic
[17:05] <cube> i dunno when was the delay anounced
[17:06] <Scunizi> :)
[17:06] <free1> erUSUL:  so you are saying that if I send an email in Russian or Greek, because it's ubuntu is unicode, the other people should have no problems reading it?
[17:06] <cube> i just thought it was 3 months from the release date
[17:06] <jpatrick> cube: we just need more time to make it even better
[17:06] <nicodarious> woohooo!  got SLI working... (i think)
[17:06] <kindofabuzz> the ubuntu developers sold out for 32 million eahc
[17:06] <cube> nicodarious your log could easily tell u!
[17:06] <bazhang> cube today is April 1st
[17:06] <nicodarious> but I have a problem with screen tearing when GLX is running.
[17:06] <nicodarious> cube, what log?
[17:06] <balle> last time i used the drivers for my graphics card an nvidie 6600 go i think, it totally messed up the screen, but i would like the visual enhancements and the use of another screen, so is there a safe way to enable the restricted drivers?
[17:06] <nicodarious> cube, where can I find such a log?
[17:07] <viru0> Hey, gays! I have very interesting project. Write the GUI for SciPy. Le's do this for Google Summer of code!
[17:07] <cube> system log and then xorg
[17:07] <Frijolie> anybody?
[17:07] <nicodarious> cube, I'm still kind of new to the inner workings of Linux.
[17:07] <balle> last time i used the drivers for my graphics card an nvidie 6600 go i think, it totally messed up the screen, but i would like the visual enhancements and the use of another screen, so is there a safe way to enable the restricted drivers? or do an back up, from the GRUB
[17:07] <Frijolie> viru0: "Hey gays"?
[17:07] <kindofabuzz> i feel sorry for the people not from USA that don't have april fools lol
[17:07] <Yodude> people focus, how the hell can they ship a BETA labeled browser in a LTS release ?! that's just crazy !
[17:07] <nicodarious> cube, umm... could you tell me how to pull those logs up per chance, please?
[17:07] <cube> system - administration - system log -xorg
[17:07] <Scunizi> lsusb, lspci, etc.. I'm looking for one that will give me info on ttys(x).. anyone know what that ls command would be?
[17:07] <JoeLinux117> @viru0:  That's a good way to get everyone excited!
[17:07] <viru0> Oi I'm sorry
[17:07] <JoeLinux117> *sarcasm*
[17:08] <free1> viru0: Я не gay
[17:08] <kindofabuzz> JoeLinux117: that doesn't get me excited
[17:08] <nicodarious> cube, THANK YOU!
[17:08] <Frijolie> everyone seen ubuntuforums.org homepage? check out their new stylesheet!
[17:08] <z> do you know where is the malaysian channel ???????
[17:08] <JoeLinux117> @kindofabuzz:  Please see "*sarcasm*" (above)
[17:08] <kindofabuzz> =)
[17:08] <viru0> I can have a mistakes on my English! Not gay.
[17:08] <lordleemo_> kindofabuzz: since when was aprils fools only american lol
[17:08] <kelvin911> hi all
[17:08] <Frijolie> viru0: !gay
[17:09] <startherepodcast> new style on ubuntuforums makes text hard to read
[17:09] <kindofabuzz> lordleemo_: oh i had no idea it was universal, just thought it was an american thing
[17:09] <JoeLinux117> Does anyone know if screenlets can be positioned relative to the screen edge (other than left or top)?
[17:09] <flinttown420> that stylesheet is god aweful ugly
[17:09] <kindofabuzz> startherepodcast: it can be changed, botton left
[17:09] <Frijolie> startherepodcast: definately
[17:09] <startherepodcast> cool
[17:09] <startherepodcast> thx
[17:09] <ai3gtmc> JoeLinux117, it finished the install,does it include the install for firefox plugin?
[17:09] <lordleemo_> kindofabuzz: england france germany belgium most of europe my friend
[17:09] <JoeLinux117> @ai3gtmc: Yes
[17:09] <JoeLinux117> @ai3gtmc:  Try it now...
[17:09] <ai3gtmc> cool
[17:09] <ai3gtmc>  ok
[17:09] <kindofabuzz> lordleemo_: i learn soemthing new everyday! =)
[17:09] <rycole> hey guys, im trying to use apt-get to install subversion. the newest version is 1.4.6, but it looks like apt-get is grabbing 1.3.1. can anyone confirm this? does apt-get cache my previous verion, or something? i had 1.3.1 installed before, and i removed it.
[17:10] <Scunizi> #linux
[17:10] <frank_> startherepodcast: it's an april fools style
[17:10] <startherepodcast> oh
[17:10] <lordleemo_> kindofabuzz: we all do eh :)
[17:10] <startherepodcast> great so it should soon be back to normal
[17:10] <kelvin911> just try out quake4, it isnt that good at all
[17:10] <nicodarious> cube,  do you know about SLI on Ubuntu per chance?
[17:10] <soundray> rycole: 7.10 should install 1.4.4
[17:11] <kindofabuzz> kelvin911: world of padman ftw! =)
 гзвфеу нщг зфслфпуы вфефифыу
[17:11] <kelvin911> world of padman also not that great
[17:11] <rycole> maybe i need to update my apt-get list
 Update you packages database
[17:11] <frank_> viru0:     #ubuntu-ru
[17:11]  * Pelo realy hates April 1st on the web, can't trust anyting you read 
[17:11] <kindofabuzz> kelvin911: pretty damn fun
[17:11] <ai3gtmc> JoeLinux117, it works now :D thanks man
[17:11] <nicodarious> cube, because it seems I am getting an error, it seems.  (WW) NVIDIA(0): DamageEvents are not currently compatible with SLI.  Disabling
[17:11] <cube> nicodarious: i have a asus 4x4 with 2 fx74 cpus and 2 nvidia 8600gt
[17:11] <mutew> I am looking to increase the virtual terminal resolution in Ubuntu ..
[17:11] <kindofabuzz> Pelo: you shouldn't trust everything you read on the web anyways
[17:11] <cube> i think i have seen that error in my log too
[17:12] <JoeLinux117> @ai3gtmc:  No prob, glad to help!
[17:12] <ai3gtmc> :)
[17:12] <kindofabuzz> just because it's written down doesn't mean its true
[17:12] <nicodarious> cube, seems we have the same vid cards.  I have two XFX 8600GTs also.
[17:12] <MrBumblebee> the pirate bay's april fools is great
[17:12] <mutew> But when I set vga=788 in my menu.lst file the splash screen seems to go crazy..
[17:12] <Pelo> kindofabuzz, I don't trust "everything" I read on the web but today I can'T trust "anything" it's rather annoying
[17:12] <rycole> hmm. still grabbing 1.3.1. weird.
[17:12] <cube> you should pastebin your xorg.conf
[17:12] <OsamaK> What's the best way to install KDE4 on Ubuntu 8.04? (I think this is public, unneeded to #ubuntu+1 :) )
[17:12]  * Pelo realy wonders if the "cheese" thing is true or not 
[17:13] <mutew> Though X boots perfectly, none of the virtual terminals now display.
[17:13] <JoeLinux117> @mutew:  Have you tried vga=791?
[17:13] <bazhang> #kubuntu-kde4 can help OsamaK
[17:13] <JoeLinux117> @mutew:  I believe that's equivalent to 1024x768
[17:13] <Keigo-kun> I want to uninstall ubuntu-desktop so I have only CLI. I tried apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop, and it removed a 47kb big file.. how do I get rid of the rest?
[17:13] <nicodarious> cube, ok.  I'll do that for you real quick.  or would it be easier if i just /msg you with it?
[17:13] <mutew> JoeLinux117, yes but it results in the same thing.
[17:13] <OsamaK> bazhang: but this is Ubuntu, not KUbuntu..
[17:13] <mutew> JoeLinux117, a blank screen with a flashing cursor.
[17:13] <cube> that would be a long message
[17:13] <gabi> sziasztok
[17:14] <bazhang> OsamaK: you want instructions? they will know--that's how I got them
[17:14] <nicodarious> cube, ok.  I'll figure out how to pastebin then.  never used it before, but i'll go to the site real quick and see what it's all about.
[17:14] <mutew> The native resolution of my laptop is 1280x800 - I hope there's no conflict due to that.
[17:14] <JoeLinux117> @mutew:  This may be a dumb question, but does the kernel line contain "quiet" and/or "splash"?
[17:14] <OsamaK> ok, thx
[17:14] <mutew> JoeLinux117, contains both.
[17:14] <Moduliz0r> is there a channel for ez-ipupdate on freenode?
[17:14] <kelvin911> i have 7600 GT and quake4 is still not that great
[17:15] <cube> u play q4 on linux?
[17:15] <kelvin911> no in windows
[17:15] <cube> oh
[17:15] <uplinked> Hi- Before Hardy, FGLRX/compiz worked fine, but now, glxgears & compiz use 100% cpu. Anyone know a solution for this?
[17:15] <Lamego> Keigo-kun,  apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop | grep "Depends" | cut -d":" -f2 | tr -d "," | xargs -n1 sudo apt-get remove -y
[17:15] <viru0> Does everyone interested in GUI for SciPy? (I'm means: guys)
[17:15] <kelvin911> i may try linux later
[17:15] <Lamego> !hardy > uplinked
[17:15] <Keigo-kun> Lamego: Jesus, how am I supposed to remember all that
[17:15] <nicodarious> cube, yeah, on my laptop, but I haven't installed it on my new desktop yet.
[17:16] <uplinked> Thanks Lamego
 Drivers for you video-not good!
[17:16] <swani> hi
[17:16] <soundray> Lamego: are you aware of "apt-cache depends packagename"
[17:16] <viru0> hi
[17:16] <Lamego> Keigo-kun, you are supposed to understand, if you want to become familiar with unix/linux command line, or you are not, and you should reinstall a minimal system instead :)
[17:16] <soundray> ?
[17:16] <delfino> ciao
[17:16] <murlidhar> how to make make ubuntu remember the window placing when it is opened ?
[17:16] <kelvin911> will quake 4 run better in linux than in XP?
[17:16] <jpatrick> !it | delfino
[17:16] <cube> well nico i am confused cause you said you would pastebin your xorg from your two 8600gt
[17:16] <delfino> ^^
[17:17] <Boudha> does anyone knows how to get the burning windows for ubuntu ???
 E17 Wm can do this!
[17:17] <Lamego> soundray, I am, it would provide the same results
[17:17] <bazhang> delfino: /j #ubuntu-it thanks
[17:17] <nicodarious> cube, here's the pastebin.  I think I worked it right.    http://pastebin.org/26693
[17:17] <kelvin911> burning windows?
[17:17] <Boudha> ya
 Install beryl
[17:17] <delfino> welcome
[17:17] <delfino> ^^
[17:17] <Boudha> the effect
[17:17] <kelvin911> u mean the fire effect?
[17:17] <sjovan> if i run sudo X :3 -ac <--- how can i kill it?
[17:17] <Boudha> ok
[17:17] <Boudha> ty
[17:17] <murlidhar> viru0, is it an application?
[17:17] <kelvin911> it's under burn
[17:17] <Boudha> thats what i thought
[17:17] <bazhang> compiz-fusion fire plugin Boudha
[17:18] <Boudha> ok
[17:18] <bazhang> viru0: beryl is now compiz-fusion
[17:18] <delfino> where is a italian?
[17:18] <delfino> where is a italian?
[17:18] <delfino> where is a italian?
 ok
[17:18] <soundray> sjovan: Ctrl-C
[17:18] <sipior> delfino: italy?
[17:18] <delfino> yes
[17:18] <bazhang> delfino: /j #ubuntu-it
[17:18] <delfino> i'am italian girl
[17:18] <delfino> ^^
[17:18] <murlidhar> lol
[17:18] <sjovan> soundray: but i'm not in X 3 any more...
[17:18] <free1> delfino: from Bari?
[17:18] <delfino> nono
[17:19] <delfino> from frosinone
[17:19] <delfino> (rome)
[17:19] <delfino> eheheheh
 I'm hear that italian girl-wonderful!
[17:19] <bazhang> !ot
[17:19] <frank_> !offtopic
[17:19] <soundray> sjovan: find out the process id (ps ax | grep X) and run kill processid
[17:19] <delfino> wowwwwwwww
[17:19] <delfino> ^^
[17:19] <nicodarious> cube, did you get it by any chance?  I don't know why I got the tearing.  But it's gotten slightly better when I turned on AFR instead of it just being in auto.
[17:19] <balle> last time i used the drivers for my graphics card an nvidie 6600 go i think, it totally messed up the screen, but i would like the visual enhancements and the use of another screen, so is there a safe way to enable the restricted drivers? or do an back up, from the GRUB
[17:19] <free1> delfino:  bene.
[17:19] <sjovan> soundray: thanx
[17:19] <delfino> free
[17:19] <delfino> wowwwwwwww
[17:19] <delfino> bene
[17:19] <delfino> sauashuashuashuahsuahsuhsa
[17:19] <FloodBot1> delfino: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:19] <cube> nicodarious: your xorg looks fine, you could also turn on split frame rendering
[17:20] <kelvin911> italian girl
[17:20] <delfino> yes
[17:20] <delfino> yes
[17:20] <nicodarious> cube, so I can turn on both at the same time?
[17:20] <bazhang> delfino please stop
[17:20] <delfino> ok
[17:20] <delfino> sorry
[17:20] <delfino> ^^
[17:20] <free1> italia campionato
[17:20] <cube> yeah it will allow you to render half a frame on each i think
[17:20] <delfino> free
[17:20] <delfino> di dove sei?
[17:21] <free1> delfino: how could you let Arsenal beat you in your own stadium
[17:21] <bazhang> free1 /j #ubuntu-offtopic thanks
[17:21] <free1> una cazata
[17:21] <delfino> wowwwwwwwwwww
[17:21] <free1> bazhang: you are right
[17:21] <murlidhar> how to make make ubuntu remember the window placing when it is opened ?
[17:21] <delfino> to rome?
[17:21] <nicodarious> cube, outstanding.  I'll just make a new quotation after "AFR" so it should read like "AFR" "SFR", correct?
[17:21] <murlidhar> !offtopic > delfino
[17:21] <delfino> yes?
[17:21] <bazhang> no ops in here?
[17:21] <soundray> Pici: look at the mess they are making of our support channel :(
[17:21] <sipior> murlidhar: "gnome-session-save"
[17:21] <delfino> ahhhhhhh
[17:21] <delfino> ok
[17:21] <stond> does anybody know a good video converter/encoder that is easy to use and to install I am using Kubuntu 7.10 installed on my PS3
[17:21] <free1> bazhang: but I can't believe asenal walked into milan and beat inter.  that has NEVER happened.
[17:22] <nicodarious> stond, sweet!  I have to try that soon!
[17:22] <nixnoob> lol i love the new color scheme on the forums
[17:22] <murlidhar> sipior, i meant i wanted  to save the window placing
[17:22] <delfino> wowwwwwwww
[17:22] <delfino> milano
[17:22] <delfino> yes
[17:22] <FloodBot1> delfino: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:22] <delfino> wonderfull citt
[17:22] <nicodarious> stond, see if I can install debian or DSL on my PS3
[17:22] <delfino> ^^
[17:22] <soundray> !ops | free1 ; delfino offtopic
[17:22] <bazhang> this is the ops joke on us ;[
[17:22] <stond> nicodariousdo you have a PS3
[17:23] <jpatrick> hmm
[17:23] <nicodarious> stond, yeah, I bought it back when I first went to Iraq.
[17:23] <free1> soundray: my bad.  I'm done.  FORZA ITALIA!
[17:23] <nicodarious> stond, it's the older model though.
[17:23] <ToroT> Anyone knows how to configure nagios with NSClient agent to monitor windows servers ?
[17:23] <nicodarious> stond, 1st or 2nd gen type.
[17:23] <sipior> murlidhar: that's what it would do. or perhaps i misunderstood you? you mean that you don't want the apps to restart automatically, but you want the window positions saved when you do open them?
[17:23] <delfino> free
[17:23] <stond> nicodarious what model is it
[17:23] <delfino> you speek italian?
[17:24] <bazhang> delfino please stop
[17:24] <nicodarious> stond,  is there any way to tell?  by model number or something?
[17:24] <jpatrick> delfino: please /join #ubuntu-it
[17:24] <sipior> murlidhar: you might try installing "devilspie", that might be closer to what you want
[17:24] <murlidhar> sipior, yes i want the window positions saved when i open them
[17:25] <stond> nicodarious how many GIGS is it 60 or 20 or 40 or 80
[17:25] <kelvin911> i will say doom3 is better than quake4
[17:25] <cube> ut3 is best
[17:25] <PriceChild> !it | delfino
[17:25] <bazhang> kelvin911: that is offtopic here thanks
[17:26] <nicodarious> stond, 60 gig
[17:26] <DrHala1> just plugged a new hd into my computer what do i have to do now so i can mount it... is there a way to embed it into my sys?
[17:26] <jpatrick> PriceChild: bot dead, I told him how to tho :)
[17:26] <sipior> strange day on #ubuntu
[17:26] <nicodarious> stond, looking for a model number on it now.
[17:26] <bazhang> as did I
[17:26] <stond> that is the same model I have
[17:26] <kelvin911> cube: but i think et is still the best
[17:26] <murlidhar> sipior, how to use devilspie
[17:26] <sipior> murlidhar: you'll have to install it and consult the documentation. i'm afraid i don't use it myself.
[17:26] <cube> drHala: did your bios detect it on boot?
[17:26] <DrHala1> ah didnt look for that :S
[17:27] <soundray> DrHala1: you should partition and format it with gparted. Then you can edit fstab to mount the new partitions
[17:27] <cube> all my filesystems if detected in bios will automatic mount in ubuntu so i don't know then
[17:27] <murlidhar> sipior, ok thanks i will try to figure it out
[17:27] <stond> nicodarious would you like to install linux on your PS3
[17:27] <kindofabuzz> murlidhar: you use compiz?
[17:27] <sipior> murlidhar: from my recollection, the idea is that you specify an expression to identify windows (based upon title, &cet.), and then specify the parameters you want those windows to have
[17:28] <murlidhar> kindofabuzz, yes
[17:28] <Keigo-kun> Lamego: Thanks, your command seems to work. I understand what the command does, I just don't understand all the arguments etc
[17:28] <nicodarious> stond, i'm thinking about it.  It's not doing as much as I had hoped as far as gimeing for my wife.  She still likes her gamecube (blah).  so might as well put it to work.
[17:28] <DrHala1> soundray, is there a way to implent some kind of software raid or can my home dir to that partition?
[17:29] <murlidhar> kindofabuzz, can i use compiz to remember my window positions? :)
[17:29] <kindofabuzz> murlidhar: open up your compiz sttings, find the plugin window placement and play around with that
[17:29] <kelvin911> how to make new open window not sticking to the bottom of the screen?
[17:29] <Kliment> I did the upgrade and it actually broke very little :)
[17:30] <Vixen> I'm just about to install ubutnu, and I need a hand with the "mount points" section. What mount points are essential in the installation?
[17:30] <MrBumblebee> root
[17:30] <Kliment> but I lost samba functionality, which is a bit of a killer for me
[17:30] <MrBumblebee> swap is helpful
[17:30] <sipior> Vixen: / is the only necessary one. /home and /boot are popular, though
[17:30] <Keigo-kun> Vixen: root and swap. It might be a good idea to have /Home aswell
[17:30] <soundray> DrHala1: you can set up software RAID in principle, but I would advise against it. Sure, you can transfer your home to the new disk -- use Alan Cox's tar tip from the Tips HOWTO to transfer, then update fstab and reboot.
[17:30] <nicodarious> stond, man, I have looked all over this thing.  all I can find is a dern serial number.
[17:30] <Kliment> any idea how to start troubleshooting this?
[17:31] <stond> its ok I mean there is some stuff you can do and some stuff you cant do I suggest you try going to www.PSUBUNTU.com and read up on it before if you want at least that is what i did and since I do not have a PC a went ahed and did it until I get one
[17:31] <JoeLinux117> @Vixen:  You want /, and you want a swap partition.  And, as an optional benefit, you may want to keep /home as a separate partition as well (this would be the largest one, usually).
[17:31] <kelvin911> window stick to the bottom of the screen is annoying when using AWN
[17:31] <Vixen> Thanks, I have a 3gb swap prepared, and a 5gb space for the OS itself, I have 200gb for where I think the /home will ygo
[17:31] <Vixen> Thank you everyone
[17:31] <DrHala1> soundray: may i ask what the problem is with a software raid?
[17:31] <Keigo-kun> Vixen: Sounds like a good setup
[17:31] <kindofabuzz> murlidhar: did you find it?
[17:31] <nicodarious> stond.  thanks for the site.  I'll check it out!
[17:31] <soundray> DrHala1: yes you may ;)
[17:31] <kelvin911> 5GB for OS is enough?
[17:32] <Vixen> So I would put the root as the 5gb?
[17:32] <Keigo-kun> kelvin911: Depends on what aps you use I guess
[17:32] <kindofabuzz> kelvin911: yeah until you start adding stuff
[17:32] <JoeLinux117> @Vixen:  Yes.
[17:32] <kelvin911> i already using about 12 GB
[17:32] <szandi> denisz555
[17:32] <Vixen> JoeLinux117, would it be better to use more?
[17:32] <soundray> DrHala1: it doesn't have any significant advantages for most people, other than being educational.
[17:32] <kelvin911> just install ubuntu a week ago
[17:32] <fantaman> hello
[17:32] <JoeLinux117> @Vixen:  However, I would probably increase that a little more.  Seems like you have 200GB to give to /home, I would at least give / some 10GB or so.
[17:33] <szandi> lol
[17:33] <jaffarkelshac> has anyone used seahorse
[17:33] <kelvin911> i would say 100 GB
[17:33] <jaffarkelshac> the pgp package
[17:33] <JoeLinux117> @Vixen:  That's just my opinion, remember that third-party applications are usually installed in /usr, which will be part of the / partition unless you have partitioned it separately.
[17:33] <DrHala1> soundray: well i dont have to move folders manually thats the advantage
[17:33] <fantaman> you know an italian server irc for ubuntu?
[17:33] <Keigo-kun> Vixen: Ubuntu usually installs programs in / it seems, 5GB might be a bit weak
[17:33] <Vixen> JoeLinux117, what would be the max you would give it? I have about 400 gb to play with
[17:33] <stond> nicodarious the number of gigs is how you tell wha model you see at first ther wher two models the 20GB and the 60GB model now there is the 80GB and the 40GB model
[17:33] <soundray> DrHala1: in that case what you want is not RAID, but LVM
[17:33] <bazhang> #ubuntu-it is here on freenode fantaman
[17:33] <Vixen> I'm completely new, if you hadn't guessed  |D
[17:33] <szandi> ez meg micsoda?:D
[17:33] <JoeLinux117> @Vixen:  Wow, well hey, give it about 15 or 20 if you like, it really depends on what you plan on using the system for.
[17:34] <soundray> DrHala1: although the two can be combined
[17:34] <DrHala1> Keigo-kun: what do you mean everything (every drive etc) is in /
[17:34] <fantaman> tnx
[17:34] <szandi> nah puszpááás
[17:34] <JoeLinux117> @Vixen:  I have 10GB allocated for / on my system, and it's been fine for a few years now.  About 100GB for /home as well, on my system.
[17:34] <Vixen> JoeLinux117, I plan on using it as an all-round games, work, music makin', tune-storing love box
[17:34] <Kliment> anybody else having samba problems since upgrading?
[17:34] <askand> Whats up with the forums? some kind of apriljoke? Btw, very fun with the fish in the panel :-D
[17:34] <nicodarious> stond, ahh. I see.  so the 60 GB is the 1st gen I take it?
[17:34] <bazhang> english please szandl
[17:35] <JoeLinux117> @Vixen:  I'm at about 81% right now on /, so maybe you want to give it a little more.  Sounds like you have plenty, so go ahead and give it about 20GB.
[17:35] <soundray> Kliment: please ask in #ubuntu+1 if you're on hardy
[17:35] <Kliment> soundray: thanks, will do
[17:35] <nicodarious> stond, btw, how powerful is the Cell porcessor, since you can only use one core for Other OSes?
[17:35] <Vixen> JoeLinux117, Ok, will do. Also, do I have the opportunity to install apps in other partitions when that 20gb's full? (If ever)
[17:36] <JoeLinux117> @Vixen:  Technically, you can install apps in any partition you like... the complicated part is making sure that your libraries are probably mapped, among other things.
[17:37] <Vixen> JoeLinux117, And with me being new to this, I won't go that far  ;]
[17:37] <Vixen> Thanks for all the help
[17:37] <JoeLinux117> @Vixen:  Honestly, it sounds like you have plenty of space, if you're worried about it, give it 30 or 40.
[17:37] <JoeLinux117> @Vixen:  But if you've got a separate /home partition, that's always a good thing.
[17:37] <soundray> Vixen: if your root partition runs full, what you normally do is to move a branch, e.g. /var/, to another partition to gain space
[17:38] <ToroT> Where can I get help with configuring Nagios ?
[17:38] <stond> nicodarious I am not sure since I dont know that much about it I do know If I had to say its ok but not the greatest but it is better than nonthing I guess
[17:38] <Vixen> soundray, Ok, thanks, I'll be makng a huge root first ;]
[17:38] <Vixen> JoeLinux117, I'll be keeping a seperate /home on hischild's advice
[17:38] <Vixen> JoeLinux117, Thanks for the help, I'm off to install the thing
[17:39] <soundray> Vixen: I doubt that you'll ever fill up 20GB. I second the advice on separating /home
[17:39] <PurpZeY> How can I determine what drive is mounted at sdb1?
[17:39] <JoeLinux117> @Vixen:  Good luck!
[17:39] <soundray> PurpZeY: mount | grep sdb1
[17:39] <Vixen> soundray, Cheers, I'm off to do it now
[17:39] <Vixen> JoeLinux117, Cheers  =]
[17:40] <wildman> hello, I want to transfer all my Ubuntu OS to another disk AND make that disk bootable, so, besides the 'copy' operation how do I make the 2nd disk bootable? (that is, how do I reinstall grub on it)
[17:41] <lordleemo_> ToroT: #nagios   http://www.ubuntugeek.com/nagios-network-monitoring-system-setup-in-ubuntu.html
[17:41] <alex101> Hello people.
[17:41] <sipior> wildman: grub-install
[17:41] <wildman> sipior, ex: grub-install /dev/sdb ?
[17:42] <alex101> :/
[17:42] <wildman> sipior, for the '2nd' SATA disk
[17:42] <alex101> Hmm, is there anyone who could please help me with something?
[17:42] <insomninja> I try to bind a key to meta+1 with the xmodmap line "keycode 245 = Super_L 1" but it wont work. Any ideas?
[17:42] <alex101> I'll greatly appreciate it if you can.
[17:42] <soundray> wildman: you will need the --root-directory option to point to the new root. man grub-install
[17:42] <wildman> soundray, ok, thx.
[17:42] <sipior> wildman: usually that's fine. might want to look at the --root-directory option, depending upon your setup.
[17:43] <sipior> hmm...need to type faster, clearly.
[17:43] <porthose> alex101: don't ask to ask just ask
[17:43] <soundray> alex101: we won't know whether or not we can until you ask your question
[17:43] <bazhang> !ask
[17:43] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[17:43] <bazhang> yay!
[17:43] <wildman> sipior, thx ;-) (at least you told me the same :P)
[17:43] <soundray> !yay
[17:43] <ubotu> Glad you made it! :-)
[17:43] <alex101> Well i've never used the irc channel before so i dont know
[17:43] <alex101> b ut thanks :)
[17:43] <nicodarious> stond, cool!  well, I'll try it out after I have read and have made a decision on what I would like to install.  I have heard word that plugging in Puppy Linux USB stick or a DSL stick works, but I have been reluctant to do such a thing.
[17:43] <alex101> I need to know how to install files such as, .tar.bz files, i thinks that what they are.
[17:44] <nicodarious> stond, cool!  well, I'll try it out after I have read and have made a decision on what I would like to install.  I have heard word that plugging in Puppy Linux USB stick or a DSL stick works, but I have been reluctant to do such a thing.
[17:44] <soundray> alex101: avoid it when you can. Ubuntu provides most software through a package manager. Read ubotu's private message...
[17:44] <soundray> !software > alex101
[17:45] <alex101> Thanks soundray, but i really need to know how to install them.
[17:45] <bazhang> alex101: themes?
[17:45] <wenton> i am trying to compile ndiswrapper from source on to a computer that doesn't have internet connection, is there a way for this to be done.
[17:45] <soundray> alex101: why, what are they?
[17:46] <wildman> soundray, sipior: thx again! I'll try now, wish me luck ;)
[17:46] <chri1> why does my pidgin menu dissapear
[17:46] <wildman> bye ppl
[17:46] <chri1> I click pidgin and it says loading then it dissappears
[17:46] <alex101> I cant remember what i last tried installing, soundray.
[17:46] <DrHala1> soundray, but ive to wipe my installation for LVM though right?
[17:46] <startherepodcast> wenton maybe you would find the deb easyer
[17:46] <alex101> There's a problem with my Java, too.
[17:47] <sipior> wenton: got a usb stick around?
[17:47] <chri1> ethernet came unplugged and replugged and restarted. A disaster with IRC since however internet had no problem
[17:47] <neverblue> chri1, run it from a command line, to view output errors...
[17:47] <CJS3141> Are there any special tools for troubleshooting a program that crashes? And I mean a really gruesome crash--total system freezeup, have to power-down/reboot. :-)
[17:47] <soundray> DrHala1: no, you can have a non-LVM root and use LVM for data disks
[17:47] <DrHala1> soundray, i just hve one data disk so moving my home dir is simpler i guess..
[17:47] <neverblue> CJS3141, try testing your hardware, on the Ubuntu CD is a copy of Memtest, used to check your RAM
[17:48] <sipior> CJS3141: strace will give you an idea of what the program was doing when it died. gdb as well.
[17:48] <wenton> sipior yes :)
[17:48] <lordleemo_> wenton: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ndiswrapper/ put the deb on your stick and tranfer it done
[17:49] <azuki> hi all
[17:49] <alex101> Is there anyone that could help me with my Java?
[17:49] <azuki> friendly folks
[17:49] <wenton> startherepodcast: whats that?
[17:49] <insomninja_> =_= managed to forget to plug in the charger to my laptop
[17:49] <startherepodcast> nickname
[17:49] <soundray> alex101: we won't know whether or not we can until you ask your question ;)
[17:49] <alex101> Haha told you im new to the irc.
[17:49]  * DOOM_NX helloooooooooooooo
[17:49] <alex101> Well when i use a Java-based application it wont let me type in it.
[17:49] <Tobberoth> This is wonderful, I removed all the packages ubuntu-desktop depended on. Now internet doesn't work anymore.
[17:50] <CJS3141> neverblue, sipior: Thanks, about that Memtest, neverblue, is that also the option I get on bootup when it says something about memtest 86?
[17:50] <alex101> And not all Java applications load.
[17:50] <alex101> Some do, some dont.
[17:50] <azuki> I have this super annoying little thing.... ---> the menus are transparent (set it somewhere), but this causes my fullscreen game to be transparent also.. I can't find the command to set the transparency of menu's to solid.. please help!
[17:50] <insomninja_> (if somebody has answered my xmodmap question in the meantime, please repost as I'e missed it)
[17:50] <soundray> Tobberoth: configure it through /etc/network/interfaces -- 'man interfaces' is useful
[17:50] <neverblue> CJS3141, possibly, but to be sure, it is located on the Ubuntu CD, just select memory test, give it some time to test your RAM
[17:50] <wenton> i whats the lastest version of ndiswrapper version 1.45 hasn't worked
[17:51] <Tobberoth> soundray: Allright, I can try doing that, allthough I don't really know how, my router is supposed to handle such things, gateways etc
[17:51] <porthose> if anyone is interested in a good music server checkout http://vollmer.kicks-ass.net
[17:51] <bazhang> porthose not here thanks
[17:51] <startherepodcast> wenton: you could get build-essential deb and then compile ndiswrapper
[17:51] <Tobberoth> Also, I tried to shutdown -r now and when I got back into linux, it went all the way to "loading local scripts" or something like that, there it stopped.
[17:51] <CJS3141> neverblue: OK thanks, I'll give it a try.
[17:51] <soundray> Tobberoth: it's probably straightforward -- perhaps you need to just add a line like 'auto eth1' (replacing eth1 with your interface)
[17:52] <wenton> is that tricky? im not the best
[17:52] <startherepodcast> no
[17:52] <soundray> Tobberoth: hit return at that point to see if you get a login prompt
[17:52] <startherepodcast> i'll get the link to the deb for you
[17:52] <wenton> ty :)
[17:52] <azuki> where can I set menu transparency?
[17:52] <Tobberoth> Soundray: Ok, I'll try your advice. hopefully I'll come back in here on irssi in the linux partition hehe
[17:52] <genii> wenton: According to sourceforge, 1.52
[17:52] <alex101> Can someone please help me with my Java? I cant type in Java applications or ones that are on firefox, thought i have it installed. Oh, and some Java applications work, some dont, so i dont know whats going on
[17:52] <bazhang> azuki: you using compiz?
[17:53] <soundray> Tobberoth: if you want help with your interfaces file, put it on a pastebin. pastebinit is a package that makes this convenient
[17:53] <alex101> though*
[17:53] <azuki> bazhang: yes.. but I can't find it anywher
[17:53] <sipior> alex101: which java VM have you installed?
[17:53] <alex101> the newest
[17:53] <bazhang> alex101: this is ubuntu or ubuntu-based; which version
[17:53] <sipior> alex101: sun-jdk?
[17:53] <bazhang> azuki: what about alt f2 metacity --replace
[17:54] <alex101> yeah
[17:54] <alex101> number 6
[17:54] <startherepodcast> wenton: you can download build essential from here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/build-essential/
[17:54] <wenton> azuki have you downloaded compizconfig?
[17:54] <soundray> alex101: which version of java is configured? Find out with update-alternatives --list java (first line)
[17:54] <azuki> wenton: yes... it's all in order
[17:54] <wenton> ty
[17:54] <balle> last time i used the drivers for my graphics card an nvidie 6600 go i think, it totally messed up the screen, but i would like the visual enhancements and the use of another screen, so is there a safe way to enable the restricted drivers? or do an back up, from the GRUB
[17:54] <azuki> bazhang: but compiz can't set menutransparenc
[17:54] <azuki> bazhang: so when I reboot it'll be back
[17:54] <soundray> !java | alex101
[17:54] <ubotu> alex101: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[17:55] <mechanicalchris> cant view the pidgin main window
[17:55] <wenton> which one do I need to download startherepodcast
[17:55] <alex101> soundray
[17:55] <alex101> it says this
[17:55] <alex101> /usr/bin/gij-4.2
[17:55] <alex101> /usr/bin/gij-4.2
[17:55] <bazhang> azuki: then what does set it? how did you turn it on
[17:55] <startherepodcast> wenton: the bottom one
[17:55] <jin_> !compile
[17:55] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[17:56] <ForzaPalermo> hey when i use the cd.. command to go up one leve in the terminal, i get command not found?
[17:56] <suxxor> i`ve recently install windows book with wine but when i star the book program wants inserted disk but there is now virtual disk on linux to mount the iso
[17:56] <ForzaPalermo> any ideas
[17:56] <soundray> alex101: there, that's the problem. Run 'sudo update-alternatives --config java' and set it to use Sun Java as the default
[17:56] <azuki> bazhang: good question
[17:56] <suxxor> how can i make to run without virtual disk
[17:56] <wenton> ty
[17:56] <IanFHood> noobie question -> how can I change/alias the hostname that displays on command prompt without actually changing the hostname? (it is correct as is)
[17:57] <alex101>           1    /usr/bin/gij-4.2
[17:57] <alex101> *+        2    /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java
[17:57] <alex101>           3    /usr/bin/cacao
[17:57] <sipior> IanFHood: modify your prompt in .bashrc or .profile
[17:57] <alex101> do i press number 2?
[17:57] <FloodBot1> alex101: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:57] <Chrisie> mechanicalchris: sometimes it's the .xml files that are corrupt in /home/user/.purple; blist.xml or prefs.xml etc. Personally I drop them using Nautilus into Firefox and see if it tells me which line has the error
[17:57] <suxxor> i`ve recently install windows book with wine but when i star the book program wants inserted disk but there is now virtual disk on linux to mount the iso
[17:57] <sipior> IanFHood: look for the PS1 environmental variable
[17:57] <soundray> alex101: yes. And don't paste in the channel please
[17:57] <suxxor> how can i run the program
[17:57] <alex101> sorry
[17:58] <insomninja_> hmm, I might have misunderstanded xmodmaps syntax
[17:58] <mechanicalchris> Chrisie: yeah but i didnt even change anything just plugged the ethernet back in
[17:58] <ForzaPalermo> hey when i use the cd.. command to go up one leve in the terminal, i get command not found?
[17:58] <ForzaPalermo> any ideas
[17:58] <startherepodcast> wenton: you'll actually want this one http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/build-essential/build-essential_11.3ubuntu1_i386.deb
[17:58] <levander> When I plug my DAP in, Ubuntu always thinks it's a removable hard drive and opens it with nautilus.  Is there any way to let Ubuntu know that's it really is a DAP?
[17:58] <sipior> ForzaPalermo: space between "cd" and ".."
[17:58] <soundray> ForzaPalermo: you need to leave a space: cd ..
[17:58] <IanFHood> sipior: ty
[17:58] <insomninja_> Is it at all possible to bind a key to a modifier+key combination?
[17:58] <ForzaPalermo> wow great
[17:58] <ForzaPalermo> thanks
[17:58] <mechanicalchris> how can I view the pidgin "base window" it wont come up
[17:59]  * soundray remembers faintly that cd.. worked in DOS...
[17:59] <alex101> soundray, it still says error loading applet and i stillcant type in java-based things.
[18:00] <soundray> alex101: okay, if this is an applet you're trying to load inside firefox, then you need to make sure that firefox is using the Sun Java plugin. Check by entering 'about:plugins' as the URL
[18:00] <kinnune> where can i get xmms from?
[18:00] <soundray> kinnune: synaptic
[18:01] <kinnune> its not there
[18:01] <JoeLinux117> @alex101:  "sudo aptitude install sun-java6-plugin" for firefox support.
[18:01] <Khisanth> what service is responsible for detecting when a USB device is plugged/unplugged?
[18:01] <alex101> soundray everything under the Java(TM) Plug-in 1.6.0_03-b05 says enabled
[18:01] <TyN> ola
[18:01] <TyN> ai alguien aki??
[18:01] <bazhang> !br
[18:01] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[18:01] <TyN> ps vaya peaaaazo d mierdaa!
[18:01] <alex101> thanks joe, im trying tht now
[18:02] <soundray> alex101: does it look like there's a competing plugin?
[18:02] <mechanicalchris> this is a disaster. why does pidgin just dissappear for no reason when i click it
[18:02] <alex101> Erm, one second.
[18:02] <Vixen> Aight, next problem- First the installer failed to creat ext3 over a swap partition that already existed, then it failed to create ext3 over a partition that was corrupted in the last install
[18:02] <soundray> kinnune: it's in the universe repository. You may have to enable it
[18:02] <alex101> soundray what bout this one?
[18:02] <alex101> GCJ Web Browser Plugin 0.92
[18:02] <alex101> ?
[18:02] <soundray> !repo | kinnune
[18:02] <ubotu> kinnune: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[18:02] <wenton> wht do i do now that is on my other ubuntu box startherepodcast?
[18:02] <Khisanth> hrm nevermind, lsusb did the trick :)
[18:02] <soundray> alex101: that could well be competing and causing your issues
[18:02] <JoeLinux117> @Vixen:  You don't create ext3 over a swap partition.  Maybe I misunderstood the question?
[18:02] <b4l74z4r> this is distressing, i've unchecked looking for updates automatically, but today this icon showed up in the systray notifying me that updates were available
[18:03] <Sip> hola
[18:03] <alex101> How do i turn it off?
[18:03] <startherepodcast> you follow the instructions in the sources of ndiswrapper
[18:03] <soundray> alex101: that depends on how you turned it on in the first place
[18:03]  * DOOM_NX opa giati paei pros ta pisw h karekla?...
[18:03] <Vixen> JoeLinux117, Maybe I didn't read the error message properly- there was a swap partition already created, when I tried to mount swap to it, it failed
[18:03] <alex101> I didn't turn it on, well, not directly.
[18:03] <Sip> alguien castellano???
[18:03] <nalioth> !es
[18:03] <ubotu> Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[18:04] <bazhang> portuguese Sip?
[18:04] <Sip> no nada
[18:04] <mechanicalchris> bazhang: you got this one
[18:04] <JoeLinux117> @Vixen:  I assume you're using Manual partitioning, correct?  If so, delete all of the partitions first, then start from scratch (you can delete partitions by selecting them, and then scrolling down to "Delete this partition").
[18:04] <nalioth> anyone familiar with blosxom ?
[18:04] <soundray> alex101: have a look in Tools-Addons -- if you can remove it there, fine. If not, you will have to remove the package that provides it.
[18:05] <Vixen> JoeLinux117, As in, not only unmount them, but delete the partitions themselves?
[18:05] <jin__> hi, how do I load the module ndiswrapper on startup?
[18:05] <JoeLinux117> @Vixen:  Yes, you can do this from within the partitioner, in the install program.
[18:05] <alex101> Nope, its not there. where could i find where the package is?
[18:05] <Vixen> JoeLinux117, Aight, thanks again, off I go
[18:05] <wenton> were are the sources of ndiswrapper
[18:05] <mechanicalchris> so is there a way to get pidgin back?
[18:06] <startherepodcast> wenton: oh i thought you'd downloaded them
[18:06] <JoeLinux117> @Vixen:  However, it will delete the partitions, which will make accessing your data from within the installer impossible (if you have any data you wish to keep there).
[18:06] <wenton> nope :S
[18:06] <bazhang> nalioth:  the blogging tool? is in the repos I recall
[18:06] <startherepodcast> wenton: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/
[18:06] <soundray> alex101: what's the filename in about:plugins? Something that begins with lib and ends in .so
[18:06] <Vixen> JoeLinux117, I don't have anything in there, so I'm off to do that, thanks again
[18:06] <lopin> Anybody know how to troubleshoot problems with nvidia graphics cards?
[18:06] <JoeLinux117> @Vixen:  Cool.  Good luck again!
[18:06] <alex101>   libgcjwebplugin.so
[18:07] <Vixen> JoeLinux117, Thanks xD
[18:07] <ken> Total n00b with a quick question: I installed and told my window manager to use 800x600 max, but now I want to go 1024x768.. where and which config file do I need to edit? Thanks! :>
[18:07] <nalioth> bazhang: yes, i know.
[18:07] <JoeLinux117> @alex101:  You want "libjavaplugin.so" in your plugins directory.
[18:07] <soundray> JoeLinux117: I've got it under control (alex101)
[18:08] <JoeLinux117> @soundray:  Noted, backing off...  :)
[18:08] <ggordon> 8.04 beta rocks!
[18:08] <soundray> alex101: try a 'sudo apt-get --purge remove gcjwebplugin'
[18:08] <bazhang> nalioth: sorry not to give more info but your question was kind of general ;]
[18:08] <mechanicalchris> bazhang: why wont my pidgin window show up?
[18:09] <bazhang> mechanicalchris: have you tried running pidgin from the terminal and seeing the errors it gives?
[18:09] <alex101> I think it has uninstalled now, i will try a java app in firefox.
[18:09] <soundray> nalioth: for a second, I was tempted to fire !anyone at you ;)
[18:09] <mechanicalchris> comman?
[18:09] <mechanicalchris> command?
[18:09] <bazhang> ggordon: tell the good news to #ubuntu+1 ;]
[18:10] <wenton> startherepodcast I have downloaded version 1.52, how do i complie it with the buid essential pack i got
[18:10] <ggordon> ok
[18:10] <soundray> alex101: you will need to restart firefox to complete the removal
[18:10] <bazhang> ggordon: and be sure to read the topic ;]
[18:10] <ggordon> it's better than XP now imho
[18:10] <startherepodcast> wenton: did you install the build-essential
[18:10] <wenton> yes :)
[18:10] <nalioth> how to set up blosxom for use ( i have used apt-get to retrieve it )
[18:10] <alex101> soundray, it is fixed now, thank you VERY much. :).
[18:11] <ggordon> can read..thx ;)
[18:11] <soundray> alex101: phew
[18:11] <alex101> Haha.
[18:11] <startherepodcast> wenton: extract the ndiswrapper
[18:11] <wenton> ok
[18:11] <startherepodcast> say to your desktop
[18:11] <eth01> nalioth: never heard of that :/
[18:11] <wenton> i will just do that, 1 sec
[18:11] <alex101> I've only been using ubuntu for about 2 months now, but i had my laptop in for repair for a few weeks so i had to like, get used to the little things i knew again.
[18:12] <jin__> hi, how do I load the module ndiswrapper on startup?
[18:12] <alex101> Already after only 2 months i can say, i much prefer Ubuntu over Windows.
[18:12] <soundray> nalioth: I haven't used it myself, but have you seen /usr/share/doc/blosxom/README.Debian ?
[18:13] <startherepodcast> wenton: then open a terminal
[18:13] <wenton> startherepodcast done
[18:13] <wenton> ok
[18:13] <bazhang> http://www.blosxom.com/documentation/users/install/dynamic/isp.html nalioth have you seen this
[18:13] <cleo> what is the root password in ubuntu live cd
[18:14] <startherepodcast> cleo: no password
[18:14] <startherepodcast> cleo: enter in the terminal: passwd root
[18:14] <nalioth> bazhang: i have been trying to get this working for two days
[18:14] <startherepodcast> set the root password
[18:14] <bazhang> nalioth: there are also instructions for windows and mac ;]
[18:15] <soundray> !root | cleo
[18:15] <ubotu> cleo: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[18:15] <nalioth> bazhang: lucky for windows and mac users  :]
[18:15] <startherepodcast> wenton: cd to the ndiswrapper directory
[18:15] <soundray> startherepodcast: please don't recommend setting a root password -- Ubuntu is designed for administration via sudo
[18:15] <mechanicalchris> bazhang: I type pidgin into the terminal and nothing happens
[18:16] <bazhang> nalioth: could you specify the errors you are getting or difficulties?
[18:16] <wenton> cd: no such file or directory
[18:16] <bazhang> mechanicalchris: is it even installed? how about alt f2 pidgin
[18:16] <tonyyarusso> What can I install/use to make Ubuntu an OpenID provider?
[18:16] <nalioth> bazhang: no, but thanks for the assist  :)
[18:16] <jin__> I have loaded the module ndiswrapper atm, how do I set Ubuntu to lad it automatically at  startup?
[18:17] <zvz> hello boys and girls I'm getting Error 17 could not boot selected partition on one of my computers...
[18:17] <startherepodcast> wenton: did you extract the file to your desktop
[18:17] <zvz> or something like that
[18:17] <mechanicalchris> bazhang: its installed. Im using it. I just cant see that base window. the one where you can choose file>join chat. I got here by typing thcommand
[18:17] <wenton> yep
[18:17] <soundray> jin__: add 'ndiswrapper' on a line by itself at the end of /etc/modules
[18:17] <bazhang> mechanicalchris: try disabling compiz if it is running
[18:17] <wenton> i can see it sat there
[18:18] <startherepodcast> ok
[18:18] <zvz> help :(
[18:18] <soundray> tonyyarusso: maybe python-openid? (from apt-cache search openid)
[18:19] <chris____> hey everyone
[18:19] <chris____> just a quick question on what i should do here
[18:19] <tonyyarusso> soundray: I saw that, but it looks more like a library for functionality for others to build with.  Not really sure...
[18:19] <startherepodcast> enter: cd /home[your user name]/Desktop
[18:20] <startherepodcast> */home/[your user name]/Desktop
[18:20] <chris____> ive run into quite a handfull of problems running a 64-bit ver of Ubuntu...would it just be better if I format and install the 32-bit ver?
[18:20] <JoeLinux117> @chris___:  That's sort of a loaded question...
[18:20] <MrBumblebee> chris____: I've contimplated it after ndiswrapper issies
[18:20] <sipior> chris____: if you don't have more than 4GB of memory, it really won't hurt, no.
[18:21] <chris____> 4GB of ram?
[18:21] <chris____> or HD space
[18:21] <JoeLinux117> @chris___:  RAM
[18:21] <chris____> ok
[18:21] <mechanicalchris> quick way to disable compiz or unistall. I found the command for KDE but not Gnome
[18:21] <bazhang> mechanicalchris: alt f2 metacity --replace
[18:21] <nebeda> ыыыы народ я первый раз в ирке представляете?)))
[18:22] <bazhang> !ru | nebeda
[18:22] <ubotu> nebeda: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[18:22] <JoeLinux117> @chris___:  4 GB of RAM is the theoretical maximum that a 32-bit system can handle.
[18:22] <nebeda> хм. что бы это значило
[18:22] <chris____> i see
[18:22] <nebeda> !ru
[18:22] <bazhang> ubotu thanks
[18:22] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[18:22] <[T]an2> what is the command to restart x in a terminal? i am doing a shell script to change my resolution and need it to issue a change in runlevel
[18:22] <Pedantic-Steve> mechanicalchris: system -> preferences -> appearance:  visual effects tab
[18:22] <nebeda> ыыыы народ я первый раз в ирке представляете?)))
[18:22] <chris____> would there be any problems with an AMD64 running a 32 bit version?
[18:22] <nebeda> ыыыы народ я первый раз в ирке представляете?)))
[18:22] <bazhang> nebeda: /j #ubuntu-ru
[18:22] <nebeda> дошло
[18:23] <JoeLinux117> @chris___:  Shouldn't be.
[18:23] <stefg> [T]an2: sudo /etc/init.d(gdm start|stop|restart
[18:23] <stefg> [T]an2: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start|stop|restart
[18:23] <sipior> chris____: i have a machine doing just that, at the moment :-)
[18:23] <peter77> I'm having problems with firestarter blocking ports stopping me being able to watch TV streamed via vlc over the LAN as well as rythembox's music share even with the daad ports open
[18:23] <JoeLinux117> @chris___:  That's what I'm doing right now.
[18:23] <chris____> JoeLinux:  is there an easy way to make the switch?
[18:24] <lordleemo_> mechanicalchris:  compiz switch gui http://forlong.blogage.de/article/pages/Compiz-Switch
[18:24] <chris____> or sipior
[18:24] <stefg> [T]an2: if you want to make it portable to kubuntu use ?dm instead of gdm
[18:24] <CJS3141> How can I determine which version of the linux kernel I'm using?
[18:24] <JoeLinux117> @chris___:  Easiest... re-install the 32-bit version.
[18:24] <maverick_> uname -a
[18:24] <JoeLinux117> @CJS3141:  uname -r
[18:24] <stefg> CJS3141: uname -r
[18:24] <chris____> ok, does that mean just boot the 32 bit version from CD and do the whole install process again?
[18:25] <chris____> im not too computer savy and am just starting to use linux for the first time
[18:25] <stefg> chris____: be aware you'll loose all data and setings
[18:25] <CJS3141> stefg, JoeLinux117: Thanks!
[18:25] <JoeLinux117> @chris____:  Yes.  Again, that's the easiest way.  Not the safest "save my data" way.
[18:25] <wenton> ive managed to get it to the ndiswrapper-1.52 directory
[18:25] <DrHala1> did the gnome drive settings chagne in 8.4 cause there are tabs for the volumes etc missing :S
[18:25] <chris____> yeah, i just installed linux for the first time a few days ago to try it out
[18:25] <startherepodcast> wenton: cool
[18:25] <Pici> DrHala1: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[18:25] <wenton> :)
[18:26] <chris____> so i dont have anything of importance on the part of the drive linux uses
[18:26] <JoeLinux117> @chris____:  Ok, then go ahead and re-install!
[18:26] <peter77> does anyone know how to find out what ports are being used so as I can unblock them in firestarter?
[18:26] <startherepodcast> wenton: now you run: make
[18:26] <chris____> word
[18:26] <chris____> thanks all
[18:26] <wenton> oh theres alot going on in the terminal now
[18:26] <chris____> but i better get outside, its too nice to be in front of the computer
[18:26] <startherepodcast> yup
[18:26] <JoeLinux117> @chris____:  Just remember also, that when you install packages from the repositories that have "x86_64" in it (or similar), you will be needing the "x86" version instead.
[18:27] <wenton> lol - somethings happening for sure
[18:27] <startherepodcast> should be
[18:27] <ubuntu_> i have delate grub and i want now to reinstall it
[18:27] <chris____> adios!
[18:27] <stefg> !grub | ubuntu_
[18:27] <ubotu> ubuntu_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[18:27] <insomninja_> netsplit!
[18:28] <chri1> bazhang: nothing. even uninstalled compiz and restarted the computer
[18:29] <wenton> sorry pidgin crashed
[18:29] <mechanicalchris> why does pidgin not open. this is ridiculous. I didnt even change anything
[18:29] <startherepodcast> wenton: k
[18:29] <mechanicalchris> just unplugged and re-plugged ethernet
[18:30] <Mantega> mechanicalchris: use xchat
[18:30] <wenton> startherepodcast its finished running make in the terminal now
[18:30] <mechanicalchris> obviously I have a connection
[18:30] <CJS3141> I ran memtest86, and it found a bad memory location. I read that possibly "BadRAM" (http://rick.vanrein.org/linux/badram/) could be used to patch the linux kernel to avoid a bad memory address. Anybody have any experience with this?
[18:30] <startherepodcast> wenton: enter: sudo make install
[18:30] <mechanicalchris> did use Xchat. couldnt find port or something. plus i like poidgin
[18:30] <wenton> done
[18:30] <mechanicalchris> do things just randomly not work on ubuntu?
[18:30] <JoeLinux117> @mechanicalchris:  Is the pidgin icon showing up in your notification tray?
[18:31] <wirrwarr> oh yeah
[18:31] <wenton> will this automaticlly overwrite my older version of ndiswrapper 1.45
[18:31] <startherepodcast> now if you enter ndiswrrapper -i i show give you somthing
[18:31] <startherepodcast> yeah
[18:31] <mechanicalchris> JoeLinux117: at the buttom: yes then it pidgin is loading. but in never loads the home screen
[18:31] <JoeLinux117> @mechanicalchris:  Try clicking the pidgin icon.
[18:31] <wenton> ndiswrapper -v still shows 1.45
[18:32] <startherepodcast> oh
[18:32] <wenton> not 1.52
[18:32] <startherepodcast> wierd
[18:32] <mechanicalchris> JoeLinux117: no it just loads on the task bar (sorry XP lingo) then dissapears
[18:32] <gmenelau> which program can i share and files and folders from ubuntu and windows ?
[18:32] <startherepodcast> sudo apt-get uninstall ndiswrapper
[18:32] <afm1997> soñadora
[18:32] <startherepodcast> that should do the trick
[18:32] <JoeLinux117> @mechanicalchris:  Oh.  Well I meant the "system tray", is the Pidgin icon there?
[18:32] <mechanicalchris> no
[18:33] <insomninja_> any awesome/X/gnome gurus online? my F13-21 keys do not do what they should on their own, so I have to use them with a modkey, which defeats the purpose
[18:33] <JoeLinux117> @mechanicalchris:  You can also type "ps -ef | grep pidgin" in a terminal to check and see if pidgin is running.
[18:33] <wenton> E: couldn't find package ndiswrapper
[18:33] <mechanicalchris> JoeLinux117: whats the command to run pidgin in the terminal. Maybe I can tell you the errors
[18:33] <CJS3141> Anybody have experience troubleshooting a bad RAM address?
[18:33] <mechanicalchris> oh lol
[18:33] <JoeLinux117> @mechanicalchris:  "pidgin"
[18:34] <JoeLinux117> lol
[18:34] <DoppelGanger> ha ha
[18:34] <startherepodcast> wenton:  wierd
[18:34] <wenton> i know
[18:34] <leonbrussels> wenton: what card do u have
[18:34] <wenton> but if i put in ndiswrapper -v
[18:34] <startherepodcast> did you compile the  old version
[18:34] <mechanicalchris> 1000      5711     1  5 13:27 ?        00:00:21 pidgin
[18:34] <mechanicalchris> 1000      5763  5745  0 13:34 pts/0    00:00:00 grep pidgin
[18:34] <mechanicalchris> JoeLinux117: here's the read-out
[18:34] <mechanicalchris> 1000      5711     1  5 13:27 ?        00:00:21 pidgin
[18:34] <mechanicalchris> 1000      5763  5745  0 13:34 pts/0    00:00:00 grep pidgin
[18:35] <unop_> mechanicalchris, stop flooding
[18:35] <wenton> belkin F5D7000uk
[18:35] <Sake> does ubuntu run good under a vmware type virtual system? I'm thinking of setting up a server to host my company's files, and feel that a virtual solution like that is nice and portable. Anybody have any thoughts/recommendations?
[18:35] <JoeLinux117> @mechanicalchris:  Ok, so pidgin is running.
[18:35] <gmenelau> which program i can use to see computer from my network and share files with ?
[18:35] <mechanicalchris> JoeLinux117: where is it hiding?
[18:35] <unop_> mechanicalchris, try this command.  killall pidgin && pidgin
[18:35]  * DOOM_NX goodnight everyone! just ring me if u need anything, love u all :)
[18:35] <JoeLinux117> @mechanicalchris:  Do you have a "system tray" (notification tray) added to your gnome-panel?
[18:36] <stefg> CJS3141: run the memtest (let it do a couple of runs overnight). I know there are kernel options t map out bad memory regions, but ram is so dirt cheap that i rather would replace it if the memtest shows errors
[18:36] <mechanicalchris> JoeLinux117: I didnt add one
[18:36] <bastid_raZor> CJS3141; i just bought 2G for 43$ US
[18:36] <wenton> i got the driver to install on 1.45 but when i run sudo modprobe ndiswrapper i  get segmentation fault
[18:36] <JoeLinux117> @mechanicalchris:  You can add one by right-clicking on one of your panels, then clicking "Add to Panel...", then scrolling down and selecting the Notification Area under "Utilities".
[18:37] <mechanicalchris> JoeLinux117: I found it. im such a fool. I expected to see a pidgin but its a clock...
[18:37] <Zambezi> Anyone with 22" WS-screen? I want some quick messasurements.
[18:37] <CJS3141> stefg: Yes, maybe replacing the memory is the best option! :-)
[18:37] <startherepodcast> wenton: check in your device manager your wifi controller chip version
[18:37] <JoeLinux117> @mechanicalchris:  lol
[18:37] <bastid_raZor> Sake; i use VMWare to do lots of things i don't see why it would be much of an issue.. if you're interested in vmware try #vmware .. they could give you some pro's and con's
[18:37] <adrian15> [OT] I am looking for someone to test a new and very special version of Super Grub Disk. If you are interested please private message. Sorry about the offtopic but usually there are a lot of SGD users among ubuntu users.
[18:37] <CJS3141> bastid_raZor: Where did you get it so cheap? What kind is it?
[18:37] <Keigo-kun> How can I change my monitor resolution? (the CLI display. I'm not using X server)
[18:38] <stefg> CJS3141: but run memetest to be sure if it's the ram, and to get a clue which bar is the bad one
[18:38] <wenton> were is device manager?
[18:38] <mechanicalchris> JoeLinux117: still dont know why the panel doesnt stay open upon boot up but i will let you know... thanx for the help
[18:38] <bastid_raZor> CJS3141; pc4200 (my MB is weak)  buy.com or even newegg.com
[18:38] <startherepodcast> wenton: system->administration
[18:38] <stefg> CJS3141: might as well be bad soldering or defective socket
[18:38] <startherepodcast> i think
[18:38] <tonin> hi, i have a problem with my microphone in my laptop, it didn't work. someone has the same problem?
[18:38] <JoeLinux117> @mechanicalchris:  Anytime!
[18:39] <CJS3141> stefg: How do know which memory module is at fault? All I have is a HEX address from memtest.
[18:39] <startherepodcast> wenton: system->preferences->hardwareinfomation
[18:39] <adrian15> tonin: it does not work at all.. or don't you know how to vol/up vol/down its vol ?
[18:39] <stefg> CJS3141: rip one out, run memtest... the rip the first one out, but stick in the second.. run memtest again
[18:40] <stefg> CJS3141: simple deduction by testing them one by one
[18:40] <tonin> it does't work at all
[18:40] <startherepodcast> wenton: in their look for bcm or broadcom
[18:40] <capitocapito> Question: I installed Esperanto support in ubuntu, but it doesn't show up in the gdm selector.  How do I fix this?
[18:40] <tonin> but it works if i start with windows
[18:40] <mechanicalchris> JoeLinux117: so i figured its just automatically anchoring itself in "the system tray". Can I set it to not do that
[18:40] <mar_> ola
[18:41] <adrian15> tonin: ah, it's an integrated laptop microphone... you should check your laptop settings at ubuntuhardware.org (or something like it).
[18:41] <CJS3141> stefg: Yikes--that's an awfully primitive way of having to do it--there's no way of knowing which hex mem address corresponds to a particular mem module?
[18:41] <tonin> ok, i will check it now
[18:42] <stefg> CJS3141: no, you would need to know how the mobo translates adresses to chips... and that might be different if you are running Dual channel ... maybe some geek in #hardware knows more
[18:42] <mar_> heloo
[18:43] <adrian15> CJS3141: Unless you know the BIOS and motherboard specs, isn't it :) ?
[18:43] <CJS3141> stefg: OK, point well taken! :-)
[18:43] <Keigo-kun> I started Finch for the first time and I got to the account window. I have a working MSN profile added, but enter doesn't do anything, how do I actually connect to it?
[18:43] <stefg> CJS3141: and keep in mind to test the sockets, too .... if one membar fials in one socket but works in the other you know it's the socket
[18:44] <CJS3141> adrian15: What do you mean? Yes, I know some of the bios and motherboard specs...
[18:44] <Keigo-kun> Nevermind, got it working
[18:44] <flake> oh haha.. hardy will be delayed by 3 months - nice april fool's joke
[18:44] <adrian15> CJS3141: I was talking about the mem... never mind.
[18:45] <CJS3141> stefg: Yes, thanks, I read that on the memtest website too. I'll be sure to try different sockets. :-)
[18:45] <wento1> any ideas as to what i need to do?
[18:46] <sipior> quit
[18:47] <startherepodcast> wenton:  g2g goodluck
[18:47] <wento1> ok ty for your help
[18:50] <juliana> :)
[18:51] <jin__> !flash
[18:51] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[18:51] <Ntemis> i need some help
[18:52] <Ntemis> i try to install xe-x86 emulator
[18:52] <noodles12> i have a laptop with the ipw2200 intel wireless card. Sometimes it randomly dc from w/e access point i'm connected to and wont' reconnect to anything w/out a restart. is there a way to restart the card w/out doing this?
[18:52] <Ntemis> but it gives me this: sudo make install
[18:52] <Ntemis> [: 37: ==: unexpected operator
[18:52] <Ntemis> Must be logged on as root.
[18:54] <DRebellion> noodles12, sudo ifdown <device> && sudo ifup <device>
[18:54] <Ntemis> please help
[18:55] <ulisse> 'lo guys
[18:55] <noodles12> DRebellion: i've tried that. and it does "shut off" the device. ( no longer visible in ifconfig) i still can't reconnect to any networks without a restart
[18:56] <gohu> coucou
[18:56] <ulisse> is there a way in compiz to have blurred background under transparent window borders with GTK decorator?
[18:58] <gmenelau> i need some help withe microphone ,
[18:59] <SliMM> hello
[18:59] <gmenelau> it a build in ,
[18:59] <SliMM> i have a problem with the search in nautilus
[18:59] <SliMM> i. e. it doesn't work; at all
[19:00] <savetheWorld> !identify
[19:00] <ubotu> You can identify automatically by using your NickServ password as the server password in your IRC client. When identifying manually, do NOT send the command from a channel's tab, or a typo may give away your password. If that happened, type « /msg NickServ set password <new-password> » in the server tab as soon as possible.
[19:00] <b4l74z4r> i tried to compile something following the isntructions here: http://www.4front-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Configuring_Applications_for_OSSv4 I typed in this in the console: "cc -shared -m32 -O2 -Wall -Werror -lssl flashsupport.c -o /tmp/libflashsupport.so" and i got the following message "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lssl
[19:00] <b4l74z4r> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status" what should i do?
[19:01] <SliMM> what can i do with the search?
[19:04] <Intelligitimate> Hello, I am having bad problems. When it tries to boot the x-server, I get nothing but a white screen.
[19:04] <Intelligitimate> Nothing I try in the Configuring xserver-xorg thing makes it work anymore.
[19:04] <Intelligitimate> I just switched to a new monitor.
[19:05] <stefg> !fixres | Intelligitimate
[19:05] <ubotu> Intelligitimate: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[19:05] <SliMM> Intelligitimate: i had some isues with this because the xorg.conf file lacked my monitor's vsync
[19:05] <t00l> anybody know any program to makin screenshots in shell (except scrot) ?
[19:05] <SliMM> and horizrefresh
[19:05] <SliMM> or smth similar
[19:05] <Intelligitimate> It was working a little bit before, but now it does nothing.
[19:05] <SliMM> not difficult to find on google
[19:06] <balle> last time i used the drivers for my graphics card an nvidie 6600 go i think, it totally messed up the screen, but i would like the visual enhancements and the use of another screen, so is there a safe way to enable the restricted drivers? or do an back up, from the GRUB
[19:06] <Intelligitimate> I am using a 14 inch synaps flat-screen monitor.
[19:06] <www> alguna chica habla español?
[19:06] <SliMM> Intelligitimate: well, search google for that
[19:07] <frank_> !es | www
[19:07] <ubotu> www: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[19:07] <b4l74z4r> what is lssl in linux?
[19:12] <askand> are there any big pros with using 64bit ubuntu instead of 32?
[19:13] <Intelligitimate> Ok, got that problem fixed.
[19:13] <Intelligitimate> Now my Metacity is giving me extreme problems.
[19:14] <stefg> askand: 32 bit is more convinient, but 64 bit can adress more than 4 GB ram and is quicker e.g. in encoding video
[19:14] <Intelligitimate> I open the terminal and type  "Metacity &" to get back my icons to close the windows and such, and then I close the terminal window, and it all goes away.
[19:14] <Intelligitimate> Now I can't type in the terminal window when I open it.
[19:14] <Intelligitimate> Or any window.
[19:15] <LetoII> nohup metacity &
[19:15] <stefg> askand: in general you'll run into flash, wine and codec issues with 64bit, and will have to set up a 32bit lib environment to be able to use them.... possible but a bit complicated
[19:15] <Intelligitimate> Eh?
[19:17] <soundray> stefg: that is not true with gutsy anymore -- you can install an ia32 environment and flash, wine, codecs, skype and Adobe Reader will be fine
[19:17] <Intelligitimate> I can no longer type anything, everthing is interpreted as referring back to the desktop.
[19:17] <Intelligitimate> I can
[19:17] <askand> stefg: yes, that would be the cons..wwhat is the pros? :)
[19:17] <soundray> stefg: not complicated at all
[19:18] <Intelligitimate> How do I fix Metacity?
[19:18] <stefg> askand: see soundray, he obviously has newer experience with that than me...
[19:18] <soundray> askand: 64bit supports more RAM and is a bit faster, especially when it comes to numbercrunching and memory I/O intensive apps, such as video encoding
[19:19] <stefg> askand: you can have loads of Ram and actually use the full speed of your system in 64 bit ...
[19:19] <coldfusion> soundray: so do you recommend installing the 64 bit version of Hoary (if your system is capable)?
[19:20] <coldfusion> *hardy
[19:20] <jughead> Intelligitimate, what happens when you restart X?  ctl+alt+bcksp
[19:20] <stefg> coldfusion: Hoary != hardy :-)
[19:20] <coldfusion> heh ma bad
[19:20] <soundray> coldfusion: no, I won't recommend installing hardy before it's released. But once it's out, I don't foresee any problems with 64bits
[19:20] <sphinxx> can some help me, i installed pidgin and i try to connect but it gets stuck on connecting
[19:20] <askand> soundray:  stefg:  I see, thanks
[19:21] <stefg> !hoary
[19:21] <ubotu> Ubuntu 5.04 (Hoary Hedgehog) was the second release of Ubuntu.  End Of Life: October 31, 2006. See !eol for more details.
[19:21] <coldfusion> brain fart
[19:21] <soundray> Example: installing flash in 32bit: 'sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree'. In 64bit: exactly the same
[19:22] <Intelligitimate> It just goes through the login and stuff again, judhead.
[19:22] <coldfusion> thanks soundray; I have been anxious to give the 64bit version a shot... waiting patiently...
[19:22] <stefg> april's fool day ... Hardy Hedgehog ... Hoary Heron .... who cares?
[19:22] <coldfusion> how about 8.04?
[19:22] <coldfusion> :)
[19:23] <soundray> coldfusion: 8.07 (see topic)
[19:23] <XceII>   how to activate the super button with xmodmap?
[19:23] <coldfusion> AHH MAN
[19:23] <Intelligitimate> I have another question. I have this router like thing, I think it is referred to as a Fast Ethernet Switch. I have a specially modified RC file I have to use to connect to the internet at my university. It fails to try and connect to the net through this device. Any options?
[19:24] <manuelcarvajal> ola
[19:24] <manuelcarvajal> quien neres
[19:24] <XceII> !es
[19:24] <ubotu> Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[19:26] <redarrow> np: Apocalyptica - Fight Fire With Fire (0:05 / 0:00)
[19:26] <redarrow> sry
[19:26] <XceII>   how to activate the super button with xmodmap?
[19:29] <delfino> ciao
[19:30] <shantzu> hello
[19:30] <shantzu> what do i have to set into my opera browser for 'java path' so i can see websites with java content please ?
[19:30] <solexious> [Q] Can i burn an openoffice powerpoint file to dvd in ubuntu?
[19:31] <delfino> hey i
[19:31] <delfino> hi
[19:31] <soundray> solexious: sure, why not?
[19:31] <snowolf> hi delfino
[19:31] <delfino> i'm italian girl
[19:31] <delfino> you speek italian?
[19:31] <solexious> soundray: Do you know hoe? :)
[19:31] <solexious> how*
[19:31] <coldfusion> I knew a couple back in high-school
[19:31] <soundray> solexious: insert a blank DVD and follow the wizard
[19:32] <solexious> soundray: is it an inbuilt openoffice thing?
[19:32] <delfino> i've a problem whit linux
[19:32] <delfino> :(
[19:32] <soundray> solexious: no, you'll be using the nautilus burning function
[19:33] <keit1> what. is going on with the ubuntuforums.org???? why are the colours pink and green and completley unreadable??????
[19:33] <solexious> soundray: thank you, just google nautilus?
[19:33] <soundray> keit1: it's the new design. You'll get used to it
[19:33] <soundray> solexious: no, just insert a blank disk!
[19:33] <delfino> i want connect linux whith adsl but i don't know
[19:33] <keit1> soundray: is this some kind of april fools???
[19:34] <coldfusion> keit1: I sure hope so
[19:34] <coldfusion> =)
[19:34] <soundray> keit1: dang, you worked it  out so quickly ;)
[19:34] <kangkong> i have celeron 2 ghz with 256 mb ram how to make ubuntu fast on that system?
[19:34] <stefg> !dsl | delfino
[19:34] <delfino> yes
[19:34] <centyx> Hi. Question about evolution-webcal... When adding a webcal:// task or calendar, it's read-only. Is there any way to make it writable?
[19:34] <solexious> soundray: wow, cool, tools to convert and burn in windows are loads of cash, score one for ubuntu and linux
[19:34] <ubotu> delfino: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[19:34] <delfino> thank you
[19:34] <delfino> ^^
[19:34] <keit1> soundray: coldfusion: I nearly cried when I first saw it
[19:34] <stefg> !it | delfino
[19:35] <technoburn> Question: Is it possible to print watermarks on docs with e17::ubuntu?
[19:35] <soundray> solexious: over time, that'll add up to hundreds over time, until you stop scoring
[19:35] <solexious> soundray: hehe, ty again
[19:35] <keit1> I'm curious on how to go about setting up VPN on gutsy, what client is currently under the most heavy development
[19:36] <centyx> keit1: depends on your needs.
[19:36] <keit1> centyx: do you use vpn yourself?
[19:37] <no0tic> !ru
[19:37] <centyx> keit1: currently use openvpn, previously used native ipsec, before that free s/wan
[19:38] <keit1> centyx: I'll take a look at openvpn
[19:38] <balle> is there a term code for winamp install?
[19:38] <soundray> balle: there is no winamp for Linux. Try audacious
[19:39] <centyx> balle: you may like mpd ( music server ) and one of its clients
[19:39] <keit1> soundray: have you tried projectM?  I compiled it the other day and it brought the system to a standstill using an x800xt ati card and the ati driver
[19:39] <jessica_> how do i restart my graphics
[19:40] <shantzu> what do i have to set into my opera browser for 'java path' so i can see websites with java content please ?
[19:40] <soundray> jessica_: Ctrl-Alt-Backspace (quit applications first)
[19:40] <jessica_> i dont want to log out i just wish to restart my x server
[19:40] <soundray> keit1: no, I haven't
[19:41] <MrPockets> what is Nautilis
[19:41] <MrPockets> and why is it taking up 48% CPU?
[19:41] <soundray> jessica_: you can't restart X without logging out
[19:41] <centyx> jessica_: you'll need to logout to do that...
[19:41] <keit1> jessica_:  that does exactly that
[19:41] <jughead> jessica_, you logout to restart xserver
[19:41] <jughead> well, it always puts me back at the login screen
[19:41] <Spng> I have a problem with my screenresoulution. (acer 6291, ubuntu 7.10) after trying to attach a external drive my resolution changed from 1280x768 to 640x480. And it wont let me change back(no options to choose anything else but 640x480 anywhere.) Pleasereply in pm if someone can help, couse with this res the chanel is moving to fast for me.
[19:41] <jessica_> o ok fair enough then
[19:42] <soundray> MrPockets: nautilus is the default gnome filebrowser. When it hogs the CPU, it's probably generating preview icons.
[19:42] <mydoghasworms> Hello friendly friends!
[19:42] <keit1> Spng: try reconfiguring
[19:42] <keit1> !fixres | Spng
[19:42] <mydoghasworms> Is anyone using Aptana on 8.04?
[19:42] <soundray> MrPockets: you can disable preview icons through Edit-Preferences in any filebrowser window
[19:42] <soundray> mydoghasworms: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[19:43] <mydoghasworms> soundray: Oh sorry, thanks!
[19:43] <balle> i cant kill my vlc with killall!?  what to do?
[19:43] <keit1> where ubotu?
[19:44] <soundray> balle: 'ps ax | grep vlc' and do a kill on the process id
[19:44] <Spng> keit1: I am very new to ubuntu. I dont know how to do alot
[19:44] <keit1> Spng: 2 secs
[19:44] <balle> soundray: the code: sudo killall vlc doesnt work
[19:45] <soundray> balle: run 'ps ax | grep vlc' and do a kill on the process id
[19:45] <mark_> org
[19:45] <ugarit> balle wxvlc I think
[19:45] <keit1> Spng: run this -- "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[19:46] <keit1> Spng: follow the instructions and it should sort it out
[19:46] <balle> worked wonders thx
[19:47] <keit1> Spng: is that don't work try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh"
[19:47] <balle> now i have this problem with my sound card, i do not think it is detected, theres usually a red led that glows outta there, and it can play sound through a mini jack plug, but not at the moment, any thoughts on a fix for this?
[19:47] <keit1> !fixres | Spng
[19:48] <Adman65> Hello
[19:48] <Adman65> what is the best way to configure a system wide proxy?
[19:48] <soundray> keit1: ubotu seems to be in for maintenance
[19:49] <keit1> soundray: k
[19:49] <ubotu> Spng: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[19:50] <keit1> what's this about Hardy been delayed????
[19:50] <coldfusion> cute; no wonder it wasn't working for me
[19:50] <arooni> how do i list the # of files within a given directory?
[19:50] <farhan> brb
[19:50] <Exteris> arooni, ls -a | wc -l
[19:50] <farhan> hello
[19:51] <balle> now i have this problem with my sound card, i do not think it is detected, theres usually a red led that glows outta there, and it can play sound through a mini jack plug, but not at the moment, any thoughts on a fix for this?
[19:52] <soundray> keit1: yeah, 3 months is optimistic, it's actually probably 5
[19:52] <keit1> soundray: why
[19:52] <arooni> how do i create a user
[19:52] <keit1> soundray: this is _bad_news_
[19:53] <soundray> keit1: April fool ;)
[19:53] <brian_> I want to dual boot 7.10 and WinXP, but I don't know how to set up the different partitions(Up until now, I've always just done "Guided, use entire disk" at setup), can anyone help me?
[19:53] <genii> arooni: sudo adduser newusernamehere
[19:53] <Exteris> brian_, use manual
[19:53] <LeX``> adduser loginforuser
[19:53] <stefg> !dualboot | brian_
[19:53] <ubotu> brian_: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[19:53] <keit1> soundray: oh - my - god .... lol I was about to cry... first the forum, then this....! ;)
[19:53] <bod_> brian_, are you dualbooting with 1 hdd?
[19:54] <mambo_> hello everybody :) I run Ubuntu Alpha 8.04 on my laptop right now because of several drivers that were not implemented in 7.xx, now that 8 goes stable I'd like to change to 8.04 stable, how do I change? Any easy solution for this or do I need to do a complete re-install?
[19:54] <stefg> wb, ubotu!
[19:54] <brian_> bod_: Yeh. I have another hard drive I can put it, but its only 8gb, wont be very useful
[19:54] <soundray> !yay | ubotu
[19:54] <ubotu> ubotu: Glad you made it! :-)
[19:54] <balle> !yay /me
[19:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yay /me - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:54] <keit1> mambo_: should be a case of backing up your home and then re-installing
[19:54] <Kliment> mambo_: just update regularly, and by the time it's out, you'll be done
[19:54] <balle> !info gutsy l balle
[19:54] <ubotu> Package gutsy does not exist in gutsy
[19:55] <mambo_> keitl: k, thanks :)
[19:55] <Kliment> mambo_: you don't need to reinstall at all
[19:55] <soundray> !msgthebot > balle
[19:55] <bod_> brian_, well you'll prob want xp installed on your big hard drive, then when you install you can use uided -- use continuous free space,. thats the easy solution, or you can manually set up the / /home and swap partitions
[19:55] <mambo_> Kliment: so it won't go to 9.xx alpha on it's own by normal updates?
[19:55] <arooni> wwq222 is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported. ........   where do i got to add the user to the the sudo capable users ?
[19:55] <Kliment> mambo_: nope, it will go to the stable one
[19:55] <balle> now i have this problem with my sound card, i do not think it is detected, theres usually a red led that glows outta there, and it can play sound through a mini jack plug, but not at the moment, any thoughts on a fix for this?
[19:56] <chester_m> someone has experience in meta-package creating?
[19:56] <mambo_> Kliment: thanks alot :)
[19:56] <Kliment> !sudoers
[19:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sudoers - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:56] <Kliment> !sudo
[19:56] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[19:56] <bod_> balle, in a terminal type    asoundconf list    and tell me the output
[19:56] <unstable> Where is the proper place to place backup scripts? in .bash_profile? or where?
[19:57] <Kliment> !sudo |arooni
[19:57] <bod_> unstable, anywhere in your $PATH would be good
[19:57] <ubotu> arooni: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[19:57] <Kliment> arooni: section 3 on that page
[19:57] <arooni> wwq222 ALL=(ALL)ALL    .... is that what i want in visudo?
[19:57] <balle> names of available sound cards ich6//SAA7134
[19:57] <keit1> Kliment:  is that true, didn't realise the beta would upgrade to stable. --  are there ever any issues like during an upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10?
[19:57] <balle> bod_: names of available sound cards ich6//SAA7134
[19:58] <bod_> balle, ok, so is that 1 onboard and 1 soundcard or 2 soundcards?
[19:58] <Kliment> keit1: there are theoretically no issues, in practice there are always issues
[19:58] <brian_> bod_: I'd prefer to manually do it if I can... But I don't really know which partitions to make. Would ya mind helping me through it if I boot it up now? And would swap benefit from being on its own seperate drive?
[19:58] <Toznoshio> Q: What are the top 3 things I might be able to do to have better performance / responsiveness on a freshly installed Gutsy?
[19:58] <tuna> unstable: what did you mean? do you want them to run at regular intervals? if so, look up anacron
[19:58] <danand> balle - you need to be a little more specific... what kind of soundcard do you have? ie Make/Model internal/external etc ... Check the output of lspci (PCI card) or lsusb (external USB) to see if your soundcard is listed
[19:58] <brian_> bod_:It's own drive, not just partition
[19:58] <Kliment> !cron
[19:58] <taza> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/149260 <--- I seem to be suffering from that bug. It's killing a very important software.
[19:58] <keit1> Kliment: yeah I had field-experience with some on the ground
[19:58] <bod_> brian_, no it wouldnt benefit,. (i would of thouht the opposite) i will help if i can
[19:59] <ubotu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[19:59] <balle> bod_: i only know that i have 1 sound card, the other must be an onboard
[19:59] <bluefoxx> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61837/ >good or bad and what does it mean to me. also, is it jsut me using firefox3 beta that the text looks retarded to or what?
[19:59] <soundray> Toznoshio: that's hard to answer without knowing the bottlenecks in your system
[19:59] <bod_> balle, in terminal type     lspci      and pastebin the output
[19:59] <brian_> bod_: Ah, ok, thanks :D (:S I woulda thought it made sense it would benefit. It's kinda like RAM on the hard drive, isn't it? So if it's on a seperate hard drive, it won't be slowed by other read/write stuff. Or I completely missunderstood what it did xP)
[20:00] <solexious> soundray: what was the ppt to dvd burning program again, i dont get a burning wissard :s
[20:00] <Toznoshio> soundray: It takes a while for the menus to show up when I click on them
[20:00] <tuna> Toznoshio: profile the boot, install preload and turn off access times
[20:00] <bod_> brian_, but it still has to make contact with a seperate disk,.,. i wouldnt know how to confiure a swap partition for an os on a diff hd ;~)
[20:00] <balle> bod_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6336/
[20:00] <Kliment> bluefoxx: it's their brilliant april fools joke
[20:01] <soundray> solexious: go through Places-CD/DVD Creator
[20:01] <bluefoxx> Kliment: ah.
[20:01] <taza> How do I upgrade into a driver later than what ubuntu offers for intel cards?
[20:01] <bod_> balle, i think ICH6 is your soundcard ( a Intel corporation card?)
[20:01] <taza> The current repo drivers have a significant bug which causes very important applications to crash.
[20:01] <Toznoshio> tuna: I know how to do #2 and #3, but how do I profile the boot?
[20:02] <brian_> bod_: Ah, ok :) I figured that you would just put the partition on the other hard drive, but I don't really know anything about linux :P
[20:02] <soundray> Toznoshio: perhaps turn off desktop effects if you have them on
[20:02] <keit1> taza: dl the source and compile it yourself
[20:02] <bod_> brian_, i dont know if it would work.,.,. might do ;~)
[20:02] <soundray> keit1: for a video driver?
[20:02] <taza> keit1: Thanks. You're really helpful. Really, good work. How can I ever repay you for that stellar advice?
[20:02] <solexious> soundray: got that up, how do i make the dvd so the slideshow plays?
[20:02] <keit1> taza: be sure to know what you are doing and backup important system files
[20:02] <unstable> tuna / bod_, no I mean where should i have them start from? cron? a bash script? what?
[20:02] <startgame412> why is hardy going to be delayed for 3 months?
[20:03] <taza> startgame412: Today is april 1st.
[20:03] <tuna> Toznoshio: when booting, enter grub and add profile to kernel command line. That boot, it will be abysmally slow, but it will be faster on subsequent boots
[20:03] <balle> bod_ : sounds right, how do i use it? it makes sense that i can play sounds on my labtop speakers with the onboard soundcard, but not get anything out of it right?
[20:03] <keit1> taza: well if you wanna lay on the sarcasm then go figure it out yourself
[20:03] <brian_> bod_: Nah, not worth the hassle :) It's fast enough as is :P
[20:03] <tuna> unstable: cron.
[20:03] <taza> keit1: I was asking here in case someone knows.
[20:03] <balle> bod_: so... how do i make the sound go through the sound card?
[20:03] <keit1> taza: that is the answer
[20:03] <brian_> bod_: Booting... Thisll take a coupla minutes
[20:03] <taza> it's fixed in hardy anyway, but I can't reinstall. ;_;
[20:03] <pirata> thinkpad x60 user here?
[20:04] <keit1> taza: what more do you want??? me to compile it for you?
[20:04] <taza> pirata: Intel graphics card problem?
[20:04] <pirata> no
[20:04] <pirata> just only talk about it
[20:04] <bod_> balle, when there is more then 1 sound device the system can et confused, we have to tell it to be unconfused,.,. so in terminal type     asoundconf -set-default-card ICH6
[20:04] <Toznoshio> soundray, tuna: OK, thanks for the help
[20:04] <pirata> why? do you have problems taza ?
[20:04] <taza> pirata: Well, the graphics card drivers are broken before Hardy for one. :P
[20:04] <dimitree> In need of web conferencing solution with app/dekstop sharing and Voip for free online school :) or something like that ;) can someone help ?
[20:04] <taza> pirata: I have a graphics card very similiar, and I've been having trouble with random crashing.
[20:05] <bod_> balle, actually, this command     asoundconf set-default-card ICH6
[20:05] <pirata> taza, ubuntu 7.10 is working very well i think at my x69
[20:05] <b4l74z4r> when i uncheck "allow the window manager to control the windows" in the Wine configuration, the keyboard doesn't work anymore in games, is there a remedy for this?
[20:05] <pirata> taza ah thats not good :-P
[20:05] <taza> pirata: Happens with opengl rendering
[20:05] <soundray> solexious: ppt files as exported from OpenOffice won't autoplay. For that you will have to use MS Powerpoint, sorry. Look at PDF export options for an alternative (use File-Export, then select file type PDF, don't use File-Export as PDF)
[20:05] <taza> It bugs randomly but repeatedly.
[20:05] <pirata> taza, ah ok
[20:05] <brian_> dimitree: Google KDX :D I wanted the same thing recently, someone suggested that to me. Haven't actually USED It yet though... But it might work for what you need
[20:05] <david49> webtoe?
[20:05] <taza> pirata: Among other things, any wined google apps just fail
[20:06] <dimitree> brian_, ok thank you :)
[20:06] <bet0x> Hello all
[20:06] <brian_> dimitree: Np :)
[20:06] <keit1> taza: may sound like a stupid idea, but have you actually tried to install the latest drivers?
[20:06] <pirata> taza, ok, i'm using this notebook just one week, but till now all works :-P
[20:06] <jeremy_> sup room
[20:06] <edgecase> hi, i'm looking for linux ide dev channel
[20:06] <edgecase> and how to git-clone linux 2.6.25-pre
[20:06] <gorbierd> hey
[20:07] <taza> keit1: Why I have, indeed.
[20:07] <Zmine> jermey_ I thought you changed your nick
[20:07] <keit1> taza: not the one's in the repo?
[20:07] <david49> has anyone sen webtoe tonight?
[20:07] <bet0x> i detect a BUG on the install of x64 Ubuntu (7.10) release. When i install the distro stops on the package before the base install finish
[20:07] <Drahy> hi all i have a question about crossOver Games can i?
[20:07] <solexious> soundray: bum, thank you. If I make jpgs of the slides is there a dvd creator program for linux, i.e. custom menu pages?
[20:07] <gorbierd> suggest me please, how do i copy files in alphabetical order?
[20:07] <pirata> lol this chan is very fast :D
[20:07] <taza> pirata: Apparently everything works better under Hardy. They even fixed the openoffice packaging bug. Now if they could only fix dev brain damage...
[20:07] <bet0x> I install it by hand, base system and then i must fix the cdrom selection on apt-get bcz ubuntu dont detect properly
[20:07] <taza> keit1: No, I haven't. Just the latest repo driver.
[20:07] <keit1> taza: are you running compiz?
[20:08] <david49> you can go back to see previous messages, and it won't run
[20:08] <taza> keit1: No, I'm not running compiz
[20:08] <balle> bod_ tried both codes, it just tells me that i'm trying to run it as a superuser, and it can have consecuenses(spl?) not allowing me to do nothing
[20:08] <keit1> taza: are there newer one available on the intel site?
[20:08] <keit1> taza: what card is it exactly?
[20:08] <taza> keit1: Haven't checked yet but I presume I'll be compiling if I do
[20:08] <taza> And I have no idea
[20:08] <gorbierd> anyone can help me with this?
[20:08] <taza> I know it's an Intel Gsomething but that's about it.
[20:08] <keit1> taza: yes. can you compile?
[20:08] <keit1> G950?
[20:08] <taza> keit1: Preferably not with the specs of this machine.
[20:08] <taza> Yeah
[20:08] <taza> Eee
[20:09] <jeremy_> how do i sing in my nick again
[20:09] <keit1> Eee Asus?
[20:09] <bod_> balle,     sudo asoundconf set-default-card ICH6
[20:09] <taza> Yes.
[20:09] <danand> gorbierd - for i in $(ls | sort); do cp $i /folder/to/copyto; done - that may work for you
[20:09] <pirata> taza, are you using on your notebook hardy?
[20:09] <keit1> taza: bear with me a sec....
[20:09] <taza> pirata: Nope. 7.10.
[20:09] <balle> bod_ : did the sudo thing, trying again
[20:09] <Zmine> jeremy_ just type /nick and then after the word nick type what nick you want to use
[20:09] <tonyyarusso> I have a server with a public IP address that is a NIS client and has available disk space.  I have a room of computers on a private network, and would like them to do authentication against the same NIS server that the first computer does, and automount home directories from the first computer.  How would I do that?
[20:09] <david49> I installed v5.10 sunday, realised it was old and installed gutsty gibbon.....but my refresh rate is only61Hz max, and I have no sound..can anyone help please?
[20:09] <brian_> bod_: Ok, I'm at the partitioner thingy. I have my choice of "Guided - resize partition 1 and use freed space", "Guided entire disk", "Guided use largest continuous free space" and "Manual"
[20:09] <pirata> taza, which notebook are you using?
[20:09] <unop__> danand, whoa -- no no, never do that, what if the files have spaces?
[20:09] <what_the_deuce> Hi there. I was wondering if anyone could help me set up a connection share between this Ubuntu box and an xbox 360?
[20:10] <taza> pirata: Asus Eee
[20:10] <Zmine> jeremy_ there ya go!
[20:10] <balle> bod_ : same message
[20:10] <bod_> brian_, ur choice, free space, or manual
[20:10] <david49> is xchat available on gutsy gibbon?
[20:10] <taza> keit1: Correction: GMA 900
[20:10] <bod_> balle, post the exact messae
[20:10] <tonyyarusso> david49: yes, but not installed by default.
[20:10] <taza> Sez wiki anyway
[20:10] <david49> where is it?
[20:10] <pirata> taza, hehe, does it have an 8 zoll display?
[20:10] <tonyyarusso> david49: universe.
[20:10] <balle> bod_ : Please note that you are attempting to run asoundconf as a privileged superuser, which may have unintended consequences.
[20:10] <taza> pirata: What is a zoll?
[20:10] <Zmine> papisexy..your nick shold be that the next time you sign on, unless you change it again to jeremy_
[20:10] <papisexy> damn i still have 2 put a password in
[20:11] <david49> simple please, like me
[20:11] <bod_> balle, but it doesnt stop you from runnin the command?
[20:11] <tonyyarusso> !universe | david49
[20:11] <pirata> inch
[20:11] <cook> hey guys. i've got a big problem. my pc is running since 4 hours now. and at the start until before one hour every thing was okay. but then the load was going high and the pc was lagging. i dont know what it could be
[20:11] <david49> tonyrusso, whats universe?
[20:11] <brian_> bod_: I'm confused though... I thought that the Windows partition used the WHOLE hard drive. So wouldn't any option get rid of Windows? Or does the first one actually resize the Windows partition WITHOUT messing it up?
[20:11] <gorbierd> danand thank you alot
[20:11] <balle> bod_: it aint running nothing as we speak
[20:11] <nbkr> cook, run the "top" command on the console and press "p" while it runs.
[20:11] <papisexy> i havent put in a password
[20:11] <unop__> danand, gorbierd, find /path -print0 | xargs -0 cp -t /path/to/newdir
[20:12] <Zmine> papisexy I thought you did the password thing earlier today
[20:12] <tonyyarusso> david49: that was for the bot - a sec
[20:12] <bod_> brian_, takes the free space away from windows and then gives it to ubuntu,.,. windows partitions the whole drive but doesnt use it all
[20:12] <bod_> balle, no sound then?
[20:12] <david49> tony, ok
[20:12] <alan_m> Ubotu isnt working.....
[20:12] <papisexy> i dont think i did when i put my password in said incorrect
[20:12] <bod_> !yay
[20:12] <balle> bod_ : no light right now, checking sound...
[20:12] <cook> nbkr: the only thing my htop shows me is the biggest cpu % with 3 its pidgin and there is no "Z" at the STAT
[20:12] <danand> gorbierd - see unop__'s comment. That is better :)
[20:12] <unop__> alan_m, query ubotwo instead
[20:12] <bod_> the bots dead again
[20:12] <balle> bod_ : speakers are good... trying headphones
[20:13] <tonyyarusso> !universe | david49
[20:13] <tonyyarusso> maybe?
[20:13] <alan_m> either bot should be giving responses with ! right?
[20:13] <bod_> alan_m, yer
[20:13] <david49> tony, are you telling me something?
[20:13] <nbkr> cook, What does "cat /proc/meminfo" show, and is the hard drive ok?
[20:13]  * alan_m wonders why neither are responding...ah well.
[20:13] <Zmine> papisexy if you type /nickserv help ..you'll get a list that might help
[20:13] <solexious> soundray: bum, thank you. If I make jpgs of the slides is there a dvd creator program for linux, i.e. custom menu pages?
[20:13] <brian_> bod_: Ah, sweet. :S Apparently, this is a 60gb hard drive, I always thought it was 40, haha. How much space do you recommend for Ubuntu and swap?
[20:14] <soundray> solexious: I'm sure there is a solution for your problem, but I don't know what's best
[20:14] <bod_> brian_, how much ram have u ot?
[20:14] <solexious> soundray: thank you for your help
[20:14] <bod_> ot=got
[20:14] <gorbierd> unop__ danand thanks for help)
[20:14] <cook> nbkr, http://paste.frubar.net/7911
[20:14] <cook> nbkr, how should i know if the hard drive is ok. i think its okay...
[20:14] <brian_> bod_: 1280mb
[20:14] <keit1> taza; the link to intel's driver site is here http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/CS-023086.htm it includes the driver for linux for your system but there are different chipset under the GMA900 guise as far as I can tell.  you should only do continue with compiling if you have a complete backup of all system files edited and all important data - plus a livecd to hand too.  hope this helps ;)
[20:15] <soundray> solexious: why not try the PDF export? In the options dialog, you can set it up to display full-screen on load. If you saved your presentation with automatic transition, the PDF should auto-progress as well.
[20:15] <nbkr> david49, The "universe" is a software repository. Something like a great software store. You have to activate that source for your system so the apt tools are abel to use it.
[20:15] <brian_> bod_:one 256mb, and one 1024mb
[20:15] <taza> keit1: Yeah, I think I'll wait for eeeXubuntu 8.04
[20:15] <david49> nbkr, thankyou, how do I do that?
[20:15] <Achoth> Hi. What CHMOD values should I by default have on a webserver's files?
[20:15] <bod_> brian_, well the general rule is    swap=2*ram    so 2 gig
[20:16] <keit1> taza: fair, don't blame you.  but that would have probably fixed it anyhow
[20:16] <balle> bod_ : found earphones, no sound... could it be in the player perhaps?
[20:16] <bod_> balle, laptop?
[20:16] <david49> nbkr, is it in ubuntu, or a site?
[20:16] <keit1> taza: compiling drivers of all things can really make a hash of your system if you muck it up
[20:16] <taza> keit1: Only too aware, experienced with that
[20:16] <unop__> Achoth, it depends really .. the safest are 440
[20:16] <balle> bod_ : yep
[20:17] <keit1> taza: yep me too with sound drivers lol
[20:17] <brian_> bod_: And how much does Ubuntu need? Ubuntu on this computer is JUST so that my brother doesnt install infected stuff on Windows and screw it up again :P So I'm trying to figure out the least I can get away with, since he won't know how to install stuff on here anyways
[20:17] <papisexy> ok it knows me know lol
[20:17] <Achoth> unop__: On both folders and 440?
[20:17] <bod_> balle, i think theres a general problem with headphones on laptops with ubuntu,.,. but thats a new question for the channel ;~)
[20:17] <Achoth> files, not 440
[20:17] <taza> keit1: And I use a special network configuration AND I don't have my workbench handy. Reinstalling could be... painful.
[20:17] <rshank> hello, I'm working with 8.04 beta.. is this the best room for troubleshooting some nvidia and kernel quetsions?
[20:17] <balle> bod_ : it shuts off the sound when i plug it in, so it disables the speakers... but not sound from that channel
[20:17] <keit1> taza: if you can live with the bugs ;)
[20:17] <taza> keit1: Anyway, time to leave this mess. Channels with hundreds of members never really were my thing.
[20:17] <falken_> is that serious? hardy will be delayed 3 months?
[20:17] <unop__> Achoth, it depends, the defaults work fine
[20:18] <keit1> taza: c ya
[20:18] <taza> falken_: 1st of april
[20:18] <bod_> brian_, well, i usually would go for 2gig for swap 5gig for / and leftover for /home
[20:18] <nbkr> david49, run "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and remove the leading # from every line that stats with "deb" and has "universe" in it. Afterwards run "sudo apt-get update" on the console. You can also do it via gui, but I don't know how the settings are labeld in english. I run a german ubuntu version.
[20:18] <keit1> falken_: got me too
[20:18] <tomd123> does the alternate ubuntu cd let you pick the things you want installed (including gnome or kde)
[20:18] <cook> nbkr.?
[20:18] <Achoth> unop__: What are the defaults?
[20:18] <falken_> oh, november sierra. I forgot. lol
[20:18] <brian_> bod_: Okie dokie :D Thanks, I'll try that
[20:18] <nbkr> cook, is it a sata drive or a ide drive?
[20:18] <bod_> balle, im not sure im afraid
[20:18] <tonyyarusso> tomd123: You can do a minimal install and work from there.
[20:18] <cook> nbkr it is a ide drive
[20:18] <balle> bod_ : well, thx for trying nonetheless
[20:18] <bod_> balle ;~)
[20:19] <unop__> Achoth, they are owned by www-data and have 750 (i believe, i might be wrong)
[20:19] <david49> nbkr, thanks very much, I'll try and decipher that..I'm a noob........
[20:19] <bod_> brian_, i gotto go,.,. r u all sorted?
[20:19] <soundray> david49: there is another way that you might find easier
[20:19] <david49> soundray....ok :-)
[20:19] <gorbierd> unop__ "find /path -print0" sorts in desk order
[20:19] <brian_> bod_: I think so... Will i be able to make it default to booting to windows easily enough?
[20:19] <soundray> david49: System-Administration-Software Sources -- enable universe on the first tab
[20:19] <nbkr> Install the smartmontools and run "smartctl -H /dev/yourdrive". Replace yourdrive with th appropriate setting. Probably it is "hda" (without the quotes).
[20:20] <Achoth> unop_: Doesn't work with 750 on folder & files
[20:20] <david49> soundray, gottit...........cheers
[20:20] <bod_> brian_, there is a OS choice picker thingamie called grub that lets you pick which os to boot into everytime you turn on your machine
[20:20] <falken_> has anyone ever set up wireless on a laptop?
[20:20] <unop__> gorbierd, if you are copying files, you dont need them to be sorted
[20:20] <cook> nbkr, okay wait
[20:20] <rshank> falken_ I have.
[20:20] <soundray> falken_: no, noone ever has
[20:20] <brian_> bod_: Ah, k, sweet :D Thanks a ton, I should be able to blunder through it from here! :)
[20:21] <soundray> falken_: dang, caught lying
[20:21] <bod_> brian_, have fun ;~)
[20:21] <papisexy> is there a chatroom for wine if so pm me
[20:21] <unop__> gorbierd, unless there's some unusual requirement that i have missed?
[20:21] <bod_> #winehq
[20:21] <falken_> so what is the deal with this: I can get a connection at my local Books A Mil
[20:21] <brian_> bod_ Thanks again :)
[20:21] <Achoth> falken_: Nope, but just search for "wlan" in Add/Remove and you'll find loads of apps for it
[20:21] <bod_> ;~)
[20:21] <falken_> but can't figure out how to login
[20:21] <unop__> Achoth, http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/apache/2004/05/28/apacheckbk.html
[20:21] <rmiloh> is there a chatroom for security issues?
[20:21] <kdub432> how can i find out what a binary is linked against?
[20:21] <rshank> is there a beta issues chatroom
[20:22] <papisexy> pm me if there a chatrrom for wine
[20:22] <nbkr> kdub432, ldd /path/to/binary
[20:22] <bod_> #ubuntu+1
[20:22] <gorbierd> upon__ yes i need to copy file in alphabetical order to my flash-mp3 player
[20:22] <Starnestommy> papisexy: #winehq
[20:22] <bod_> papisexy, #winehq
[20:22] <hammerhead> kookookachu
[20:22] <kdub432> nbkr: thanks
[20:22] <cook> nbkr, SMART Disabled. Use option -s with argument 'on' to enable it.
[20:22] <what_the_deuce> Hi there. I was wondering if anyone could help me set up a connection share between this Ubuntu box and an xbox 360, via Firestarter?
[20:22] <papisexy> #winehq
[20:22] <gorbierd> upon__ otherwise they copies in strange order and i can't listen them fine
[20:22] <bod_> papisexy, type   /j #winehq
[20:22] <Achoth> unop__: Thanks :)
[20:22] <nbkr> cook, how old is the drive?
[20:22] <CDOG> Anyone know where the logfile that contains all the ubuntu user logins is located? Thanks
[20:23] <gorbierd> unop__ yes i need to copy file in alphabetical order to my flash-mp3 player
[20:23] <cook> nbkr, about three years
[20:23] <FFForever> how come everytime i add files to my thumbdrive they end up corrupt when i open them on windows????????
[20:23] <gorbierd> unop__ otherwise they copies in strange order and i can't listen them fine
[20:23] <FFForever> and yes i do eject them correctly....
[20:23] <Odd-rationale> FFForever: do they have any odd characters that windows doesn't like?
[20:23] <mango> Hi, I have a query. When apt finds that updates are available, it downloads packages using *sockets* or pass the url to some another package?
[20:23] <gorbierd> unop__ is there way to sort find output?
[20:23] <unop__> gorbierd, ok well, this then. find /path -print0 | sort | xargs -0 cp -t /path/to/newdir
[20:23] <FFForever> nope
[20:23] <Odd-rationale> FFForever: or does the parent folder have any odd characters?
[20:23] <gorbierd> unop_ bravo! thank you)
[20:23] <FFForever> nope, i am putting them on my root
[20:24] <unop__> gorbierd, although i'm not sure how well that will handle filenames with weird characters, but do give it a try
[20:24] <Odd-rationale> FFForever: is it formated fat32?
[20:24] <kane77> has anyone tried installing adobe air?
[20:24] <CDOG> Anyone know where the logfile that contains all the ubuntu user logins is located? Thanks
[20:24] <Starnestommy> mango: I think it's built-in
[20:24] <SaschaRed> I am beta testing 8.04, and an update just switched out my theme to the 7.10 theme
[20:24] <FFForever> yeah fat32
[20:24] <SaschaRed> why?
[20:24] <soundray> mango: it uses wget
[20:24] <Odd-rationale> SaschaRed: hardy discussion is #ubuntu+1
[20:25] <tmetro> After upgrading to 7.10 I'm having a problem where several daemons aren't starting after a boot, such as postfix, samba. For example, the samba log says "Errors when creating subnets: No local interfaces". Once the boot is complete, manually starting the daemons works fine. Seems the network interface is coming up late.
[20:25] <Ktron> So, in FC, output of cron jobs is mailed to root. Is there a way to get the stdout of a cron job in Ubuntu?
[20:25] <rshank> thanks SaschaRed
[20:25] <mango> soungray: Could you please provide me few links, where exactly I can see the code of this part?
[20:25] <rmiloh> using gutsy sever: is it standard to add ip's of break-in attempts (from the auth.log) to hosts.deny, or should I implement some other security, or ignore?
[20:25] <Starnestommy> CDOG: it might be /var/log/auth.log
[20:25] <gorbierd> unop__ i just tryed it works fine!
[20:26] <cook> nbkr, and now?
[20:26] <rmiloh> CDOG: i don't think its auth.log
[20:26] <soundray> mango: oops, I had assumed that it did -- now I'm not so sure. What's the problem?
[20:26] <brian_> Hey guys? I'm TRYING to set up a computer to dual boot WinXP and Ubuntu 7.10... But when I go to partition it, the "Guided - resize blahblahblah" seems to be wrong... It says its trying to change SCSI1(sda), but I'm just using a normal IDE hard drive.
[20:26] <nbkr> cook, Well you could activate smart for the drive, but I'm not sure if this is a safe operation. I haven't had any problems with it, but I wouldn't recommend it without knowing the hardware.
[20:26] <Odd-rationale> FFForever: oh sorry. I didn't see your post. umm what kind of file ist it?
[20:27] <FFForever> exe
[20:27] <cook> nbkr, but what could that be, i mean my load is higher than 3 or 2 and can this real be the hard drive?
[20:27] <mango> soundray: Just wanted to know about this thing but couldn't find any good links. :(
[20:27] <falken_> has anyone else set up their wifi account at books-a-million? The guy there only knew how to do it from windows.
[20:28] <Odd-rationale> FFForever: hmm. I don't know. I'm out of ideas. sorry.
[20:28] <mango> Starnestommy: Built -in in the sense? It uses sockets to make connections?
[20:28] <falken_> i got a steady connection but couldn't download anything
[20:28] <FFForever> yeah i tried to fix it my self... i don't wanna reinstall lol
[20:28] <nbkr> cook, I wouldn't think so, but if there isn't any process that causes the load. Hm, another idea - maybe there is rootkit on your PC. Did you run "chkrootkit" ?
[20:28] <soundray> mango: if you search again, remember to include Debian resources, as apt is something that was inherited from Debian.
[20:28] <FFForever> if i reinstall hal think it would help?
[20:28] <FFForever> or gnome?
[20:29] <Odd-rationale> FFForever: it mounts fine? doesn;t it?
[20:29] <mango> soundray: Oh, Yeah. I forgot. Thanks, let me try again. :)
[20:29] <WinterWeaver> cannot install anything with apt... is there a problem with the Ubuntu repo servers?
[20:30] <brian_> Hey guys, for some reason when I try to install Ubuntu, it lists my IDE hard drive as SCSI, or sda, and whenever I go to change any partitions, it gets an error and can't do it. What's wrong?
[20:30] <Odd-rationale> WinterWeaver: try a "sudo apt-get update" ?
[20:30] <slash> can anyone see if this number works for them?  989-272-7425
[20:30] <thoreauputic_> WinterWeaver: try a different mirror
[20:30] <FFForever> yeah mounts fine, but screw up the writing?
[20:30] <cook> nbkr, i think where should i have got the rootkit? i dont load any warez or cracks etc
[20:31] <thoreauputic_> brian_: yes, IDE hard drives are mostly identified as sda etc now - that part is normal
[20:31] <WinterWeaver> odd-rationale: done that... I get lots of "unable to connect errors"
[20:31] <tonyyarusso> w/in 5
[20:31] <Odd-rationale> WinterWeaver: then maybe it is your mirror...
[20:32] <thoreauputic_> WinterWeaver: go to admin - software sources and choose a different mirror
[20:32] <brian_> thoreauputic: :( Any idea why I can't edit any partitions on it then? Trying to dual boot.
[20:32] <WinterWeaver> kk thanks
[20:32] <gmenelau> i have problem with the microphone
[20:32] <thoreauputic_> brian_: did you unmount the partitions before fooling with them?
[20:32] <blaisepascal> does anyone know where I can find libqt4-plugin-odbc
[20:32] <brian_> thoreauputic: I'm in the LiveCD
[20:32] <nbkr> cook, was just an idea. A rootkit would prevent htop to show the process.
[20:32] <thoreauputic_> brian_: usually you edit partitons from a live CD for that reason
[20:32] <cook> nbkr, but chkrootkit didnt find anything
[20:32] <gmenelau> someone for help?
[20:33] <sotap> hardy being delayed 3 months = April Fools?
[20:33] <thoreauputic_> brian_: unmount the partitions then
[20:33] <thoreauputic_> brian_: begore editing them
[20:33] <thoreauputic_> *before
[20:33] <WinterWeaver> odd-rationale, thoreauputic : Thanks, that helped
[20:33] <brian_> thoreauputic: How do I do that? >.< I'm still pretty new to linux
[20:33] <billy____> is there anything wrong with running 32-bit ubuntu on a 64bit machine?
[20:33] <sotap> billy____: not at all
[20:34] <billy____> will it solve any problems with my bcm4311 wireless card? cuz i can't seem to get it working in the 64 bit ubuntu
[20:35] <sotap> billy____: I'm not sure, it's possible
[20:35] <alan_m> billy____, you would have to try that out for yourself, it MIGHT but no promises here.
[20:35] <soundray> billy____: they are difficult beasts. It may be worth a try, but don't get your hopes up.
[20:35] <gmenelau> i cant record from the built in microphone of my laptop any help?
[20:35] <sidelil> excuse me, is it possible to set up a persistent live USB (as described in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent) on a memory card? Is there something to pay attention on, in particular during the partitioning process?
[20:35] <ceschneider> hi... I just installed 7.10 but my Xorg is eating my processor :S
[20:35] <soundray> !broadcom | billy____, have you seen this help
[20:35] <ubotu> billy____, have you seen this help: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[20:35] <alan_m> sidelil, sure, but it would be incredibly slow.
[20:36] <billy____> soundray: yea ive been working on this comp seriously for about 2 months to no avail, ive tried the resident drivers as well as ndiswrapper
[20:36] <ceschneider> more than 50% all the time
[20:36] <billy____> soundray yes ive seen it a million times
[20:36] <sidelil> alan_m, why?
[20:36] <soundray> billy____: sometimes it's easier to swap the wireless card for one that works, ie. Intel
[20:36] <billy____> soundray: no denero, i gotta work with wut i have already
[20:37] <alan_m> memory card slots seem to be slow, i have no clue why, the data transfer rate im guessing...and their not typically designed for programs and things of that nature.
[20:37] <brian_> How do I unmount partitions when I'm in the LiveCD? Ubuntu 7.10
[20:37] <sidelil> alan_m, ok, thanks!
[20:37] <soundray> billy____: it's cheaper than you may think, though
[20:38] <billy____> wuts a wireless-b ethernet bridge?
[20:38] <billy____> soundray: i seriously have like 10 cents to my name, and no job
[20:38] <billy____> im 17 and live with my mom lol
[20:38] <alan_m> billy____, know the feeling...19 and same issue.
[20:39] <ceschneider> why my org is consuming more than 50% of my procesor?
[20:39] <ceschneider> any tip?
[20:39] <ceschneider> * y Xorg
[20:39] <nick_> hi all - can anyone help me with a vpn route - I have setup a vpn connection which has connected but i cant get to an exact machine because my connection attempt is going via the net rather than the vpn connection - can anyone help
[20:39] <ceschneider> ops.. my Xorg
[20:39] <sinak> hi. when i boot kubuntu my monitor goes to power saving mode
[20:40] <sinak> and I can't' see anything
[20:40] <sotap> ceschneider: do you have compiz enabled?
[20:40] <soundray> billy____: a bridge is a device that connects two networks -- useful e.g. for connecting a wired ethernet device to a wireless network
[20:40] <sinak> the hard drive seems to work
[20:40] <soundray> billy____: b refers to the old 11 MBit/s standard
[20:41] <billy____> soundray: so i could use it to connect my laptop to my wireless network?
[20:41] <alan_m> !kubuntu | sinak
[20:41] <ubotu> sinak: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[20:41] <sinak> I know what kubuntu is
[20:41] <alan_m> im telling you, you might get more help over there than here.
[20:42] <sinak> it's not a kubuntu problem
[20:42] <ceschneider> sotap: yes.. how can I disable that/
[20:42] <soundray> billy____: if you have one already, probably yes. Buying a bridge is more expensive than buying a card that works
[20:42] <billy____> soundray: yeah i have the bridge right here
[20:42] <billy____> soundray: any idea how i hook it up?
[20:42] <sotap> ceschneider: System->Preferences->Appearance->Visual Effects, set to none
[20:43] <soundray> billy____: no. Is there no manual?
[20:43] <billy____> nope.. its a second hand linksys one that my buddy let me borrow, but i haven't seen him in yrs so ya lol
[20:43] <ceschneider> sometimes my firefox also consumes lots of processor
[20:43] <ceschneider> what could be?
[20:44] <soundray> billy____: linksys have manuals on their web site, at least for some devices
[20:44] <sotap> ceschneider: it could be flash
[20:44] <krey_> i having the same situation like ceschider
[20:44] <sarah___> hey guys, what works better with ubuntu, Intel/AMd  and Nvidia/ATI?
[20:45] <sotap> ceschneider: did disabling compiz solve the xorg problem?
[20:45] <LinTux> I have installed a packet radio program and it is asking for the address of the sound card it is using / something, any ideas?
[20:45] <soundray> billy____: but try to set your Ethernet up with a static address, 192.168.1.2 and try to connect to 192.168.1.1 with a browser
[20:45] <[FT]alex> ati drivers have issues with compiz and opengl, I think
[20:45] <billy____> soundray: yea.. i figured, just hopin that someone might have some experience with it in linux before, considering pretty much no companies support linux for one reason or another
[20:45] <sotap> sarah___: Intel and Nvidia
[20:45] <ie72> sarah___: navidia/intel works for me
[20:45] <ceschneider> sotap: nop.. still with high load
[20:47] <soundray> billy____: that's not an accurate statement -- there are plenty of companies that support Linux now in one way or another.
[20:47] <ie72> *nvidia
[20:47] <sotap> ceschneider: it persists when you restart?
[20:47] <billy____> soundray: well broadcom definately aint one of 'em lol
[20:47] <soundray> billy____: and few are as extreme in their non-support as Broadcom
[20:48] <noname6474> Hello all,
[20:48] <noname6474> Does ubuntu work *well* on a new Macbook Pro with Core2 Duo?
[20:48] <ceschneider> sotap: I just disabled the visual effects. may I restart xorg too?
[20:49] <Ktron> So, in FC, output of cron jobs is mailed to root. Is there a way to get the stdout of a cron job in Ubuntu?
[20:49] <billy____> why is bcm so retarded about open sourcing?
[20:49] <Ktron> /var/log/syslog only has what it ran, not the program's stdout/stderr
[20:49] <sotap> ceschneider: it's worth a try
[20:49] <nick_> can anyone advise how to use route to add a route to an address via ppp0 i cant get the command correct
[20:50] <ceschneider> sotap: ok... brb
[20:50] <Ktron> nick_, route add -net <IP> <MASK> dev ppp0
[20:50] <soundray> billy____: I don't think that's something we can answer, but their press office may
[20:50] <unop__> nick_, or - route add -host <ip> dev ppp0
[20:50] <billy____> yeah.. tru dat..
[20:50] <third> hello?
[20:51] <soundray> !hi | third
[20:51] <ubotu> third: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[20:51] <third> awsome hi
[20:51] <alan_m> dang, soundray beat me to it :)
[20:51] <third> hey i got a problem with ubuntu
[20:51] <soundray> !ask | third
[20:51] <ubotu> third: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[20:51] <dundel> does anybody know how to get Freshtel FT-102 USB VOIP Phone working in gutsy?
[20:51] <alan_m> dang soundray chill out lol, you and I are like competing over ubotu now :P
[20:51] <dundel> 9
[20:52] <alan_m> thats 2 commands in a ROW you've beat me to ubotu with :)
[20:52] <soundray> alan_m: 2:0 ;)
[20:52] <unop__> Ktron, why don't you just output to a file instead .. cron mutes output to prevent syslog or your mailbox becoming polluted with nonsense
[20:52]  * alan_m checks my lag
[20:52] <third> k my bad....          ok im using fisty, when i turn on desktop effects, the bar with the minmize, maxamize and close button dissapears... any reason why?
[20:52] <brian_> When I try to automatically resize the windows partition to install Ubuntu 7.10, it comes up with an error... Can anyone help me out?
[20:53] <soundray> third: that's compiz-fusion failing to start for some reason
[20:53] <third> how do i start it
[20:53] <Ktron> unop__, it was kind of nice having the log automatically fragmented, dated, indexed/etc with mail; now I either need to write code to make logs with timestamps in their name, or have one huge log
[20:53] <nick_> ktron and unop_ thanks for your help
[20:54] <linuxmonger> Is there any way to have a cron job (running as root) put a message on the screen, regardless of who is logged in? If no one is logged in, it doesn't matter if the message shows or not.
[20:54] <Jo_nass> :D
[20:55] <h4L1m> hello guys, is it possible to reinstall the grub bootloader with windows xp, because i had to reinstall windows and it deleted my bootloader so i can't startup ubuntu
[20:55] <alan_m> !grub | h4L1m
[20:55] <ubotu> h4L1m: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[20:55] <soundray> !grub | h4L1m, use the RecoveringUbuntu... help
[20:55] <ubotu> h4L1m, use the RecoveringUbuntu... help: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[20:55] <brian_> Can someone please help me with dual booting WinXP/Ubuntu 7.10? Ubotu's info isn't any help :P
[20:55] <unop__> Ktron, well, you could just append this to the command -- command > /path/to/logs/log.$(date '+%Y%m%d%H%M%S')
[20:56] <soundray> alan_m: woah!
[20:56] <h4L1m> thanks guys, i'll take a look on it :)
[20:56] <|Dede|> Will Ubuntu 8 have NTFS drivers? So we're able to edit NTFS files?
[20:56] <alan_m> sorry for the flood with ubotu.
[20:57] <soundray> |Dede|: pretty certainly, given that 7.10 has them, too
[20:57] <soundray> !ntfs-3g | |Dede|
[20:57] <ubotu> |Dede|: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[20:57] <Ktron> unop__, plus a 2&>1 in there probably... okay, thanks unop
[20:57] <sluimers> hello there, I'm trying to install Ubuntu on one of my computers but I get the following message: "The display server has been shut down about 6 times in the last 90 seconds. It is likely something bad is going on. Waiting for 2 minutes before trying again on display :O.
[20:57] <unop__> Ktron, or if the shell is bash .. command &>  ...  saves you from redirecting both STDOUT and STDERR in one go
[20:58] <sluimers> that's like after half a minute during the install
[20:58] <jeremy_> grrr
[20:58] <sluimers> no wait, two/three minutes I guess ^^
[20:58] <|Dede|> it's implemented automatically?
[20:58] <|Dede|> in ubuntu 7.1
[20:58] <alan_m> |dede| yep
[20:58] <|Dede|> cool
[20:58] <|Dede|> thx
[20:59] <sluimers> anyone that could help me?
[20:59] <Zmine> jermey_ what's wrong..still the password, or about wine?
[20:59] <brian_> Can someone help me with dual booting?
[20:59] <kazol_> How do I retain my WPA key in the network administration tool so I won't have to enter it after each reboot?
[20:59] <jeremy_> no 4got how 2 sign in
[21:00] <jeremy_> no 4got how 2 sign in here
[21:00] <Zmine> jeremy_ I don't sign in..when I connect to the server it saves my nick for any of the channels/chatrooms I go into
[21:00] <alan_m>  /msg nickserv identify <your password>
[21:00] <alan_m> ^ that was for jeremy_
[21:00] <jeremy_> mine dont
[21:00] <macdunbar> anyne using a santa rosa macbook?
[21:01] <sluimers> drat, I knew the answer to kazol_ 's question
[21:01] <jeremy_> how do i sign in again??
[21:01] <Starnestommy> jeremy_: in IRC?
[21:01] <unop> "Hardy will be delayed by 3 months" < is this an april fool's joke?
[21:01] <alan_m> jeremy_, in irc its what I told you above :)
[21:01] <Zmine> jeremy_ oh, sorry...well if you write it down then once you keep doing it you'll remember and not need notes anymore
[21:01] <jeremy_> lol
[21:01] <jeremy_> not funny lol
[21:02] <jeremy_> hold on ill try it again lol
[21:02] <incorrect> does anyone know of any comparison between running 32bit apps on 64bit platform
[21:02] <billy____> can anyone help me with setting up my wireless bridge in ubuntu?
[21:02] <Zmine> jeremy_ you just type /msg nickserv identify ..and after the word identify type your password
[21:02] <Starnestommy> jeremy_: I think someone else may have registered your nickname
[21:02] <genii> incorrect: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=616&num=1
[21:03] <flinttown420> any better bittorent support for ubuntu
[21:03] <Zmine> jeremy_ now if you want to change your nick like you did before, then you need to sign in with that nick so then you type /nick .and then put the nick you want to use
[21:03] <flinttown420> than the standard one that loads with torrent files
[21:03] <newTruth_UK> Toznoshio recompile the apt packages from source
[21:03] <alan_m> your last login was 8 years ago, someone had your name, you can get it dropped by going to #freenode and asking them :)
[21:03] <whisperkiller> yuntongpin: whats your issue?
[21:03] <Pirate_Hunter> Does anyone know the codename for the next release of ubuntu after hardy?
[21:03] <Zmine> jeremy_ I don't think you registered the nick you're using now, right?  I thought you only registered the other nick
[21:04] <alan_m> oh, hang on, that was without a _ behind the name, wrong user, oops
[21:04] <jeremy_> i have with papisexy
[21:04] <third> ok, google tells me that i have to enable desktop icons to fix the compiz problem, where/how do i do that?
[21:04] <alan_m> you used it 2 weeks ago right jeremy_?
[21:05] <jeremy_> im a diff guy
[21:05] <whisperkiller> yuntongpin: didn't you say something about running an hdtv in dual mode on your box?
[21:05] <jeremy_> the one asked about if wine had a chatroom
[21:05] <linuxmonger> Ingrate Inchworm?
[21:05] <|Dede|> they do
[21:05] <|Dede|> well
[21:05]  * alan_m just is looking at activity and sees 2 weeks since last login jeremy_ but i could be wrong
[21:05] <|Dede|> 'cedega does at least
[21:06] <Starnestommy> jeremy_: switch to your registered nickname then /msg nickserv identify password
[21:06] <david49> nbkr,you there?
[21:06] <Zmine> jeremy_ yes I know :)  but if you're trying to log on with the other nick, you need to change your nick from jeremy_ to the other nick
[21:06] <gmenelau> i cant record from the built in microphone of my laptop any help?
[21:06] <jeremy_> im trying to
[21:06] <MountainX> how do I sync passwd and group files among computers on my lan for nfs?
[21:07] <nbkr> david49, yes, I'm here.
[21:07] <david49> I got no sound in gutsy gibbon........seems from google its a common thing, any help please?
[21:07] <yuntongpin> what settings do i need to get a 40 inch 1080i hdtv to run in dual screen on ubuntu
[21:07] <scorpion3> hi an alle. Ist jemand hier der deutsch spricht?
[21:07] <jeremy_> whats the help thing
[21:07] <alan_m> !de | scorpion3
[21:07] <ubotu> scorpion3: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[21:07] <Zmine> jeremy_ are you trying to register the nick jeremy_ ?
[21:07] <david49> nbkr, got xchat in my gutsy now ty, back on my own machine, few more probs tho
[21:07] <scorpion3> thx
[21:07] <billy____> how do i install a linksys wireless-b ethernet bridge in ubuntu?
[21:07] <Zmine> jeremy_ type /msg nickserv help
[21:07] <Starnestommy> jeremy_: /nick new-nickname
[21:08] <jeremy_> i have papisexy registered
[21:08] <bobbo> does anyone know how to get Thunderbird to auto-download messages from an IMAP server, so i dont have to trawl through each directory to see the new messages?
[21:08] <Zmine> jeremy_ yes I know you have papisexy registered..are you trying to register the nick jeremy_ now?
[21:08] <david49> nbkr, like no sound, and lousy screen refresh
[21:08] <soulreaper> hi I just installed linux ubuntu 7.10 and did the 209 updates and my machine is a sony viao with 512 ram 220 wat power suply and a agp 8x ati radeon x1300 and i was wondering  what do i have to do to get the desk top cube effect. I have heard of berly but dont know how to install it. can anyone help me
[21:08] <linuxmonger> Is there any utility like wall for X? I'm trying to display a message on a remote machine, I have ssh to it and sudo once I'm there, but getting the message up once I'm there is stumping me.
[21:08] <billy____> soulreaper: go to the compix help chat
[21:08] <david49> had 87hz in v5.10,  now down to 51hz
[21:09] <soulreaper> billy will you help?
[21:09] <frederic> hello all.
[21:09] <billy____> i don't know much about it
[21:09] <Oli``> Can anybody suggest something for drawing pretty graphs and charts? OO ones are functional but pretty fugly
[21:10] <MountainX> soulreaper - see http://forum.compiz-fusion.org
[21:10] <yuntongpin> how do i set up my nvidia 7600 to run my hdtv
[21:10] <billy____> they'll set u up quick in the compix chat tho
[21:10] <david49> gtg for a while.........bbl
[21:10] <billy____> compiz w/e
[21:10] <frederic> I'm looking for a program that tells me what kind of "codec" is used into a video ... where could I find that ? thanks
[21:10] <MountainX> soulreaper - install compiz settings manager (CCSM) and set 4 virtual desktops and then check "desktop cube"
[21:10] <minervaroma> when i boot linux it charge util to login , later it charge only the wallpaper without icons!!!!how can i do?
[21:11] <ceschneider> sotap: I'm back... Xorg now is using 4% of proc, but I still have a process called tracerd that use 40%
[21:11] <jeremy_> what reregister
[21:11] <whisperkiller> yuntongpin: did you install the restricted drivers?
[21:12] <jeremy_>  it wont let me on papisexy
[21:12] <MountainX>  how do I sync passwd and group files among computers on my lan for nfs? what happens if I copy a passwd file from one computer to another? Will I get locked out?
[21:12] <jeremy_> i signed on be4
[21:12] <sotap> ceschneider: that is a file indexer for searching
[21:12] <soulreaper> MountainX can you give me a link to where i can down load it?
[21:12] <third> how do i fix compiz-fusion to work with desktop effects?
[21:12] <linuxmonger> Consider NIS
[21:12] <yuntongpin> yeah
[21:12] <Zmine> jeremy_ that's because you're not using the  nick papisexy right now..change your nick to papisexy .. type this .. /nick papisexy
[21:12] <DRebellion> MountainX, you'll need /etc/shadow as well for the hashes
[21:13] <MountainX> soulreaper - use Synaptics Package Manager under System Admin menu in Ubuntu
[21:13] <ceschneider> sotap: can I schedule it to run once a day?
[21:13] <whisperkiller> whats going on with your hdtv?
[21:13] <linuxmonger> MountainX:  You may want to look into NIS.
[21:13] <SEJeff> MountainX, Most people use OpenLDAP to do what you're looking into doing DONT use NIS
[21:13] <jeremy_> didnt work damn it
[21:13] <sotap> ceschneider: the settings are under System->Preferences->Indexing Preferences
[21:13] <yuntongpin> i can' get signal from ubuntu it's not showin up
[21:13] <Pirate_Hunter> Does anyone know the codename for the next release of ubuntu after hardy?
[21:14] <yuntongpin> can anyone help out?
[21:14] <dundel> does anybody know how to get Freshtel FT-102 USB VOIP Phone working in gutsy?
[21:14] <kazol_> sluimers: Do you think I need to install wpa_supplicant?
[21:14] <MountainX> OK, I have only a half dozen machines no my home office network. Is OpenLDAP simple to set up?
[21:14] <sluimers> hmmmm
[21:14] <Pirate_Hunter> has the codename for the next release of ubuntu after hardy even been released?
[21:14] <eax> Hello :)
[21:14] <sluimers> sounds familair
[21:14] <MountainX> My goal is to have file sharing with similar security to what I would have with samba (but I can't use samba).
[21:14] <sotap> ceschneider: it doesn't look like you can set it to run only once a day
[21:14] <Zmine> jeremy_ in the bar that you're typign in now to type in this room...just type this ... /nick papisexy
[21:14] <SEJeff> Pirate_Hunter, Intrepid Ibex
[21:14] <wildman_> hello again, while copying files over the 2nd HDD, I couldn't copy /proc (which is OK cuz its contents are generated at runtime) and /sys, what does the /sys dir have? can I just mkdir /sys on the 2nd disk and hope it will be automatically filled like /proc?
[21:14] <erUSUL> Pirate_Hunter: intrepid ibex
[21:15] <sluimers> I had the same problem and solved it eventually, let me take a look again
[21:15] <MountainX> next name is something Ibex
[21:15] <SEJeff> MountainX, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LDAPClientAuthentication
[21:15] <jpatrick> !ibex
[21:15] <ubotu> Intrepid Ibex is the code name for Ubuntu 8.10, due October 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidIbex
[21:15] <Ceilingpaint> how do i get compiz-fusion to work with desktop effects turned on
[21:15] <erUSUL> wildman_: sys is generated at runtime too
[21:15] <whisperkiller> im not sure man....im on a laptop with generic graphics
[21:15] <whisperkiller> lol
[21:15] <wildman_> erUSUL, gracias...
[21:15] <pipE|carnal> sdf
[21:15] <wildman_> bye ppl, have a nice one!
[21:15] <linuxmonger> SEJeff: What's wrong with NIS? I've been using it for years without issue, between half a dozen Linuxes, Solaris and SCO - I did get rid of the SCO box though.
[21:15] <kane77> ehm.. what is ibex?
[21:15] <billy____> anyone know how to access an ip in firefox?
[21:15] <whisperkiller> anyone know how to help out yuntongpin with his hdtv?
[21:16] <FalcUbuntu> is there an easy way to switch my /home to another HDD? the one died, and the install HDD is fine, but the /home drive is failing quickly
[21:16] <MountainX> SEJeff - thanx
[21:16] <frederic> !wiki mencoder
[21:16] <Pirate_Hunter> SEJeff, erUSUL: you serious from hardyheron to that o_0 hmmm weird, well thanx going to format pc next time im on ill be using hardy
[21:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wiki mencoder - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:16] <kazol_> Pirate_Hunter: Are you against IP piracy?
[21:16] <pipE|carnal> #aijoara
[21:16] <sluimers> I have it installed kazol_ , so probably that's what I have done
[21:16] <SEJeff> linuxmonger, NIS uses the Domainname as a secret. Security through obscurity is proven insecure
[21:16] <kazol_> ok
[21:16] <Pirate_Hunter> kazol_: why do you ask?
[21:16] <SEJeff> linuxmonger, NIS+ is secure, but pita to setup. LDAP is secure, easy to setup, easy to manage, and supports Unix / Linux
[21:17] <DRebellion> billy____, http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:port
[21:17] <kazol_> Pirate_Hunter: Just curious, because of your nick.
[21:17] <soulreaper> ccsm is compizconfig settings manager right
[21:17] <SEJeff> linuxmonger, NIS is not secure by design
[21:17] <kazol_> Pirate_Hunter: It sounds as if you're affiliated with the RIAA/MPAA/BSA/etc.
[21:17] <frederic> hello again. I'm looking for a program that tells me what kind of "codec" is used into a video ... where could I find that ? thanks
[21:17] <billy____> wuts the port on a wireless bridge if the ip is 198.162.1.255?
[21:17] <Pirate_Hunter> kazol_: :D you remind me of someone i had a conversation about this it had to do with the same thing
[21:17] <Pirate_Hunter> kazol_: yup
[21:18] <DRebellion> frederic, 'file' command on *nix
[21:18] <MountainX> How much harder is Kerberos than LDAP? Just curious?
[21:18] <SEJeff> MountainX, a ton
[21:19] <SEJeff> MountainX, Kerberos is single signon for enterprises. It is also a bear to setup and maintain the proper PKI infrastructure unless you use something really expensive like RSA
[21:19] <alan_m> brb showah!!!!
[21:19] <kazol_> Pirate_Hunter: I wonder what relative proportion of *nix users pirate copyrighted software/music/etc....
[21:19] <Ceilingpaint> im not going away guys, lol.   how do i get compiz-fusion to work when i enable desktop effects?  im using nvidia driver, 64 bit fiesty
[21:19] <ChaosTheory> It seems I can't get Youtube to work. . .
[21:20] <frederic> DRebellion: thanks. now, how may I "translate" into something like .avi file ? (is .avi = "uncoded" ?)
[21:20] <ChaosTheory> It says I have the "Macromedia flash plugin" in the add/remove.
[21:20] <MountainX> SEJeff: OK, thx. I'll go with OpenLDAP. Does it make the local passwd and group files obsolete? Would it still help to start off with the same UID and GID for the same usernames?
[21:20] <SEJeff> Ceilingpaint, Try using gutsy
[21:20] <DRebellion> frederic, i'm not sure what you mean
[21:20] <Ceilingpaint> how do i use gutsy?
[21:20] <soulreaper> ok i installed ccsm where do i go to find it on my desk top?
[21:20] <SEJeff> MountainX, Well you can configure it to use ldap and then /etc/{passwd,group} if the ldap server is unavailable by changing a line in /etc/nsswitch.conf
[21:21] <MountainX> soulreaper - it is under system preferences menu
[21:21] <Pirate_Hunter> kazol_: give it a rest and you would be suprised how many pirated software their is for *nix you just have to search but than thats illegal
[21:21] <SEJeff> MountainX, Too bad Ubuntu doesn't have an app like authconfig in fedora. You run 1 command and it sets up ldap clients
[21:21] <MountainX> soulreaper - it is called advanced desktop effects settings
[21:21] <Pirate_Hunter> well after that im gone to install hardy
[21:21] <Exteris> Pirate_Hunter, cedega?
[21:21] <jake2point0> how would i go about getting new sound event sets downloaded.
[21:21] <soulreaper> ok im there
[21:22] <kazol_> Pirate_Hunter: Btw, I do pirate IP.
[21:22] <sanguisdex> is therre a browser based program for screen shareing that will work under linux?
[21:22] <SEJeff> Ceilingpaint, from a terminal type: sudo "update-manager -c"
[21:22] <Ceilingpaint> sorry, stupid question by me, thanks SEJeff
[21:22] <MountainX> soul reaper - under general settings top desktop settings tab and set horizontal virtual size to 4
[21:22] <peter77> Pirate_Hunter, I just downgraded from hardy
[21:22] <Pirate_Hunter> Exteris: cedega is one once cracked, vmware is another but in true reality they are hard to find kazol_ your such a naughty person... were you expecting me to say something like im going to track you down and arrest you?
[21:23] <MountainX> soulreaper then turn on the desktop cube under "desktop" section on main page
[21:23] <Pirate_Hunter> peter77: how come you downgraded?
[21:23] <frederic> DRebellion: actually my video has a xvid. I need to change it (remove a part of the video). I used kino but it couldn't help me (couldn't read the entire video, froze, lost sound). I'd like first to "translate" xvid to normal avi file so I could work on it. (am I clear ?)
[21:23] <peter77> Pirate_Hunter, I'm staying the my nice fast booting perfectly operational gutsy
[21:23] <DRebellion> frederic, wouldn't it be easier to simply use some different video editing software?
[21:24] <Pirate_Hunter> peter77 i tested hardy on vbox and it was bad also the features look quite good and its going to be released in 22 days from now
[21:24] <kazol_> Pirate_Hunter: I was just joking around...your nick was interesting.
[21:24] <FalcUbuntu> is there a relatively easy way to transfer a /home to a new hard drive if the drive it is on is dying?
[21:24] <ampex> if I nice a shell script, will all processes that shell script calls also be niced?
[21:24] <soulreaper> how do i set set 4 virtual desktops
[21:24] <Pirate_Hunter> kazol_: :)
[21:24] <frederic> DRebellion: find me a good one, I'll try ;) kino is the onliest everyone talked me about
[21:24] <DRebellion> frederic, try some googling
[21:24] <peter77> Pirate_Hunter, its good, just I need a good stable OS especially as I've got coursework due and can't afford an unstable faulty beta
[21:24] <DRebellion> FalcUbuntu, copy and paste?
[21:24] <gmenelau> i cant record from the built in microphone of my laptop any help?
[21:24] <Jowi> FalcUbuntu, yes, it is not very hard. But some precautions should be taken. The new home partition should have the same filesystem in order to keep the correct permissions in case you want to copy the old home over to it. If you can't copy the old home due to corruption you should recreate the home dirs with the correct user and group rights (see /etc/passwd). after that is done you should add the new home
[21:24] <Jowi> partition to /etc/fstab
[21:25] <MountainX> SEJeff - OK, I'll still start by syncing up my local password and group files so same users have have GID and UID on each machine. What is the best way to do that? Can I just copy one file to all machines? Will that screw up my logins?
[21:25] <linuxmonger> FalcUbuntu: Put the new drive in a second macine and use rsync - but don't shut down the old drive if you can avoid it.
[21:25] <Pirate_Hunter> peter77: what was unstable about it and im guessing you have got a second os such as m$ or osx
[21:25] <FalcUbuntu> prob is that when i try to log in, it won't let me, the drive is getting pretty bad i guess, i can read it over a forensic cable tho
[21:25] <danand> FalcUbuntu - attach your new drive and copy and paste within gparted is another option ...
[21:25] <soulreaper> hay where do i set 4 virtual desktops in compiz setting manager?
[21:25] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone post a link on how to install home to a different directory
[21:26] <DRebellion> FalcUbuntu, you should make a backup as quickly as possible then, i would use dd
[21:26] <FalcUbuntu> so maybe boot to a live cd?
[21:26] <FalcUbuntu> kk
[21:26] <JoeLinux117> @soulreaper:  In CCSM, go to General Options --> Desktop Size
[21:26] <MountainX> soulreaper-scroll up. I typed it earlier.
[21:26] <Jowi> FalcUbuntu, if you can copy the old /home to the new partition you should be all set and then simply add the new partition as /home in /etc/fstab
[21:26] <peter77> Pirate_Hunter both and no doubt you're a linux zealot vomitting free software and open source ethics all over the computer community?
[21:26] <amenado> Pirate_Hunter-> is your home directory on  a separate partition?
[21:26] <martianlobster> is there a howto somewhere which describes how to recompile the kernel?
[21:26] <frederic> DRebellion: well, already done in fact. will try again. hope to be lucky :)
[21:27] <MountainX> soul reaper - under general settings top desktop settings tab and set horizontal virtual size to 4
[21:27] <FalcUbuntu> one more question about the HDD, my laptop died b/c of the docking the heads problem, is it possible that that happened with the desktop drive too?
[21:27] <amenado> FalcUbuntu-> is your new partition mounted yet?
[21:27] <FalcUbuntu> amenado: no, don't have one yet, planning my next step first, prolly a trip to best buy
[21:28] <Pirate_Hunter> peter77: o_0 no comment but yeah you didnt answer my question
[21:28] <soulreaper> ok so i set horizontal virtual size to 4 and number of desk tops to 4?
[21:28] <amenado> FalcUbuntu-> go now, the store close in 10 minutes..
[21:28] <jake2point0> can anybody tell me if TeamFortress2 works 100% in linux?
[21:28] <Pirate_Hunter> amenado: not at the moment but thinking about doing so since im going to do a clean install of hardy
[21:28] <MountainX> let's say I do want my UID and GID for each user to be the same on each of my half dozen machines. How do I copy or sync the files manually without screwing things up?
[21:29] <peter77> Pirate_Hunter, hardy is good and I'm impressed but I experienced a few problems which were counter productive and it was in my own best interest to stick with gutsy until the final release of hardy and yes I use Ubuntu, Mac OS X and Windows XP
[21:29] <kinnune> argh
[21:30] <FalcUbuntu> alright folks, thanks
[21:30] <amenado> MountainX-> 1st is make sure each of the host does have your uid and gid same?
[21:30] <FalcUbuntu> off to best buy
[21:30] <linuxmonger> MountainX: You can use awk to just get the logins with UID > 999 and > say 10,000
[21:30] <jake2point0> poor you FalcUbuntu
[21:30] <MountainX> I am in admin group on each computer, but admin group is GID 114 on one machine and GID 110 on the other
[21:31] <Pirate_Hunter> peter77: ok understood
[21:31] <linuxmonger> MountainX: Then do a chown -ARE on each directory in home if you've changed any of the UIDS.
[21:32] <amenado> MountainX-> and make sure those users are not logged on at the moment you are doing this conversion?
[21:32] <linuxmonger> MountnX: My text replacement kicked in, that was supposer to be a single character -are-
[21:32] <Pirate_Hunter> Is there soemthing better than JFs filesystem (excl ext2/3 7 reseirfs), better what is the best file system in speed and reliability as well as defragmentation?
[21:33] <soulreaper> how do i rotate the cube?
[21:33] <Odd-rationale> soulreaper: ctrl+alt+left/right
[21:33] <Odd-rationale> soulreaper: or ctrl+alt+[click and hold left mouse button and move mouse around]
[21:33] <MountainX> linuxmonger - thx but I am confused. If I currently have admin GID's of 110, 113, 114 etc. on the different machines, what is the safest, best way to make those all the same?
[21:35] <UnSuNgLoSeR> hello
[21:35] <UnSuNgLoSeR> need help people
[21:36] <UnSuNgLoSeR> help required
[21:36] <Nineaxis> Me too
[21:36] <linuxmonger> MountainX: Dunno, personally, I'd not have anybody in the admin group, but that may not be possible - and there are three files at least that you need to look at, /etc/{shadow,passwd,group}
[21:36] <XiXaQ> UnSuNgLoSeR, you have to ask a real question. I've told you this already. But I've investigated while you were gone, and might have a solution for you.
[21:36] <genii> It's usually better to just state what the problem is
[21:36] <phil__> Hi! Is it possible to add subtitles (.srt format) in copying DVD Video in Ubuntu?
[21:36] <soulreaper> it ses i have 2 desktops
[21:36] <Nineaxis> Anyone know why a server might not be booting from the ubuntu server disk on startup?
[21:36] <UnSuNgLoSeR> XiXaQ yeah wat do u have for me?
[21:37] <wildman> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdb gives me /dev/sdb does not have any corresponding BIOS drive. any ideas? I'm trying to install grub on a 2nd hdd to make it bootable after transferring my whole system (from 1st disk) to it
[21:37] <MountainX> I can get all three files from each machine. I can also edit them. But I don't know what will happen after I change the admin GID. I'd rather find out before I try :)
[21:37] <XiXaQ> UnSuNgLoSeR, first, install kppp.
[21:37] <UnSuNgLoSeR> whatever that is?
[21:37] <Jowi> UnSuNgLoSeR, ask a precise question. the more info you give the better your chances are to get an answer.
[21:37] <XiXaQ> UnSuNgLoSeR, it's an application used for connecting to dialup networks.
[21:37] <|Dede|> when is the hardy release date?
[21:38] <MountainX> soulreaper - did you set horiz virtual size to 4?
[21:38] <linuxmonger> MountainX: Make a backup, give it a try, worst is a need to reboot in single-user.
[21:38] <UnSuNgLoSeR> i dont known how to install stuff on ubuntu
[21:38] <JoeLinux117> @Nineaxis:  Is the BIOS configured to boot from CD automatically?
[21:38] <Nineaxis> Yep
[21:38] <Starnestommy> |Dede|: I think it's April 24
[21:38] <XiXaQ> Jowi, actually, that was my fault. He asked in another channel on another network. The problem is connecting to the internet using HSUPA (3G)
[21:38] <Nineaxis> But it keeps booting fedora from the hard drive
[21:38] <MountainX> hardy release around april 24 i think
[21:38] <wildman> UnSuNgLoSeR,: sudo apt-get install package_name, run from a command line, will do
[21:38] <XiXaQ> UnSuNgLoSeR, Applications > Add/Remove.
[21:38] <JoeLinux117> @Nineaxis:  Is the CD-ROM configured to boot before the hard drive?
[21:38] <MountainX> why not try hardy beta now?
[21:38] <Nineaxis> Yes
[21:38] <wildman> UnSuNgLoSeR, or you can use the corresponding add/remove entry in the menu
[21:38] <Jowi> XiXaQ, ah :)
[21:39] <JoeLinux117> @Nineaxis:  Also, is the system detecting the CD-ROM?
[21:39] <Nineaxis> I'm not sure
[21:39] <MountainX> linuxmonger - thx
[21:39] <UnSuNgLoSeR> hmmph
[21:39] <wildman> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdb gives me /dev/sdb does not have any corresponding BIOS drive. any ideas? I'm trying to install grub on a 2nd hdd to make it bootable after transferring my whole system (from 1st disk) to it and it seems I'm not able to correctly spec the device
[21:39] <JoeLinux117> @Nineaxis:  Once it's booted to the hard disk, check within Fedora to see if the CD-ROM drive is detected.
[21:39] <veco> Ola! I have a dcc pending. Any help? im using xchat
[21:39] <heyjoe02> Hi, this might be off topic. Is there a way to view or edit p-frames in an mpeg file?  I would like to manipulate every single frame, including the placement and data in p-frames.
[21:40] <Starnestommy> veco: /dcc get nickname
[21:40] <Nineaxis> @JoeLinux117 Sorry for being a linux n00b, but how do I go about doing that?
[21:40] <veco> Ola! I have a dcc pending. Any help? im using xchat. The issue revolves around downloading files from irc
[21:40] <UnSuNgLoSeR> i tried to make it run by changing the dev address to /dev/ttyUSB0 but to no avail
[21:40] <veco> no such dcc offer
[21:40] <soulreaper> ya its set at 4
[21:40] <UnSuNgLoSeR> is huawei ets2551 supported by ubuntu 7.10?
[21:40] <Starnestommy> veco: regular xchat or xchat-gome?
[21:40] <veco> gnome
[21:40] <veco> should i download xchat2 and try again?
[21:41] <amenado> wildman-> on /dev/sdb which partition would you like /boot/grub to be on?
[21:41] <XiXaQ> UnSuNgLoSeR, I don't know. I'm fairly sure it won't automatically connect though.
[21:41] <UnSuNgLoSeR> i checked it on the device manager
[21:41] <wildman> amenado, tried /dev/sdb1 too to no avail (I'll try again now), /dev/sdb1 is mounted on /mnt BTW
[21:41] <UnSuNgLoSeR> the status is connected
[21:41] <wildman> amenado, with /dev/sdb1 it's the same pb
[21:42] <ogre>  anybody know what the heck that anarchism package is about? and how to run it to look for myself?
[21:42] <soulreaper> but i cant get it to rotate
[21:42] <mrkeishii> how do you use the Paint Fire
[21:42] <XiXaQ> UnSuNgLoSeR, you're connected to the modem, but has the modem logged into your internet providers network?
[21:42] <JoeLinux117> @Nineaxis:  It's OK!  I forget the GUI method in Fedora (I believe there's a hardware manager, maybe someone using Fedora can confirm), but from the command-line you can type "sudo lshw | grep -A 15 cdrom", and look at the "logical name:" entries to see if your system has set the cdrom up.
[21:42] <UnSuNgLoSeR> no it hasnt
[21:42] <amenado> wildman-> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdb  this doesnt seem to look right, try  /boot instead of /mnt
[21:42] <XiXaQ> UnSuNgLoSeR, have you installed kppp yet?
[21:43] <JoeLinux117> @Nineaxis:  You should see something like, "logical name:  /dev/dvd"
[21:43] <eracc> Anyone know why Hardy is delayed? Is there a URL that tells us why?
[21:43] <UnSuNgLoSeR> it goes like TUSB 3140 boot device connected to usb port
[21:43] <veco> Starnestommy: xchat-gnome. On my laptop i have xchat2 i think, it works fine there out of the box
[21:43] <XiXaQ> eracc, is it delayed?
[21:43] <mrkeishii> I activated The Paint Fire on Desktop Effect, but how do you use it???
[21:43] <JoeLinux117> @eracc:  April Fools
[21:43] <soulreaper> control + alt brings up a window like in windows xp when you alt tab and i can switch between desk 1 and desk 2
[21:43] <UnSuNgLoSeR> i already have the network utility up and running
[21:43] <eracc> Joeb454, ah, ok. :)
[21:43] <XiXaQ> UnSuNgLoSeR, kppp?
[21:43] <UnSuNgLoSeR> do i still need kppp?
[21:43] <eracc> JoeLinux117, ah, ok. :)
[21:44] <UnSuNgLoSeR> nay i am on winxp now
[21:44] <ceschneider> sotap: everything is runnig faster now... are there more options that I can disable to improve performace?
[21:44] <Joeb454> eracc, wondered why you wanted me then, i've not said anything yet :P
[21:44] <mrkeishii> >>>I activated The Paint Fire on Desktop Effect, but how do you use it???
[21:44] <soulreaper> do i have to restart my comp to use the cube
[21:44]  * eracc actually reads the topic XiXaQ ;)
[21:44] <wildman> amenado, but it will install in sda's /boot, not in sdb's...
[21:44] <wildman> amenado, right?
[21:44] <amenado> wildman it should not
[21:44] <UnSuNgLoSeR> and yeah one more question how do i access the ext2 file system from winxp?
[21:44] <XiXaQ> UnSuNgLoSeR, as I said before, I don't have any experience with this, but I'll tell you what I've been told.
[21:44] <ogre> mrkeishii:  well thats more of a #compiz-fusion question but u use <Shift><Super>Button1
[21:44] <wildman> amenado, ok =X
[21:44] <eracc> Joeb454, heh, tabbed nick completion got me again. :)
[21:44] <MountainX> soulreaper - no restart required
[21:45] <XiXaQ> UnSuNgLoSeR, www.fs-driver-org
[21:45] <MountainX> soulreaper - but you need 4 desktops, not 2
[21:45] <Joeb454> gets me alot too eracc
[21:45] <mrkeishii> wats Super Button
[21:45] <ogre> :/
[21:45] <soulreaper> umm one sec
[21:45] <Nineaxis> @JoeLinux117 I see it, logical name: /dev/cdrom /dev/scd0 and /devsr0
[21:45] <eracc> http://blog.eracc.com/2008/04/01/linux-and-foss-are-you-an-advocate-or-a-zealot/
[21:45] <ogre> the button with the stupid windows logo on it
[21:45] <mrkeishii> oh okay
[21:45] <amenado> UnSuNgLoSeR-> get the driver for xp to support ext 2 filesystem
[21:45] <eracc> Ack! Wrong channel. Sorry. :(
[21:45] <mrkeishii> okay it works
[21:45] <mrkeishii> nice
[21:46] <mrkeishii> but how to disperse
[21:46] <JoeLinux117> @Nineaxis:  Ok, this problem gets a little more complicated now.  Are you sure that the CD is bootable (has it worked before)?
[21:46] <soulreaper> ok now its set to 4 desk tops
[21:46] <Pinchiukas> if I put a ubuntu livecd into the drive, can I test how well counter-strike: source plays?
[21:46] <linuxmonger> Still looking for a way to get a pretty window to pop up on a users desktop from a cron job or the command line (from ssh). Can anybody help?
[21:46] <Nineaxis> I just burned the file per instructions on the ubuntu website.
[21:46] <soulreaper> but in my bottem right it is has 2
[21:46] <sotap> ceschneider: not that I can think of, but if performance is an issue, you might want to consider using xubuntu instead of ubuntu
[21:46] <mrkeishii> How do you remove it though?
[21:46] <ogre> mrkeishii:  well thats more of a #compiz-fusion question but u use <Shift><Super>C but use #compiz-fusion channel for these questions
[21:46] <JoeLinux117> @Nineaxis:  It could be that the CD isn't bootable... that would explain the boot process skipping it.
[21:46] <mrkeishii> thanks
[21:46] <mrkeishii> ogre
[21:47] <JoeLinux117> @Nineaxis:  Do you have K3b installed?
[21:47] <UnSuNgLoSeR> XiXaQ dude i cant run ubuntu at extra graphics!whenever i try to switch to extra graphics, it gives an error message
[21:47] <soulreaper> i still cant get my cube to pop up
[21:47] <Nineaxis> I don't know, haven't heard of it befor
[21:47] <ceschneider> sotap: how can I upgrade to xubuntu?
[21:47] <Nineaxis> before, so probably not
[21:47] <wildman> amenado, http://pastebin.com/d2d8623f1 has output, does this mean I can disconnect sda, connect sdb on sda's place and it will boot?
[21:47] <billybiculator> !compiz
[21:47] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[21:47] <JoeLinux117> @Nineaxis:  It has a very easy "Burn CD Image..." option, where once you've downloaded the .iso file from www.ubuntu.com, you can simply burn it using K3b.
[21:47] <JoeLinux117> sudo yum install k3b
[21:47] <wildman> amenado, a.k.a: that it worked as expected :)
[21:48] <XiXaQ> UnSuNgLoSeR, that's probably because you haven't installed any drivers that supports 3d. But that's a completely different issue. Don't you think it would be wise to solve one problem at a time?
[21:48] <amenado> wildman it works as expected?
[21:48] <JoeLinux117> @Nineaxis:  I believe that should work ("sudo yum install k3b").
[21:48] <MountainX> soulreaper - are you on ubuntu or kubuntu? If in ubuntu, you must see 4 desks in lower right before you can use cube
[21:48] <soulreaper> im in ubuntu
[21:48] <sotap> ceschneider: run: 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop' then at the login screen select xfce session
[21:48] <soulreaper> and i dont see them
[21:48] <billybiculator> mountainx: how do you make 4 thinks appear in the bottom right?
[21:48] <soulreaper> i only see 2
[21:49] <wildman> amenado, dunno, I've never had the need before to install grub to a different device until I bought this new bigger disk and wanted to transfer my whole Ubuntu system to it
[21:49] <UnSuNgLoSeR> yeah right.its just that i want my ubuntu to up and running with no problems watsoever
[21:49] <Nineaxis> @JoeLinux117 I don't have a cd burner on my server and my desktop is Windows.
[21:49] <wildman> amenado, so, does the above paste look right?
[21:49] <billybiculator> unsungloser: what problems are u having?
[21:49] <soulreaper> is there a way to apply it when im in the compz window
[21:49] <wildman> amenado, "Installation finished. No error reported" gives me the impression it did...
[21:49] <XiXaQ> UnSuNgLoSeR, if you include the nickname of the person you're talking to, it's alot easier to notice your messages.
[21:49] <MountainX> using CCSM under general options get horizontal virtual size to 4
[21:49] <JoeLinux117> @Nineaxis:  Ouch.  Do you have access to a CD burner?  Or anyone that can burn this for you?
[21:49] <amenado> wildman-> the paste looked good..now have an entry on your menu.lst to point to this new /dev/sdb to boot
[21:50] <wildman> amenado, but again... I'm a bit confuzed by specing root-directory to a place different than the place where sdb1 is mounted :)
[21:50] <billybiculator> mountainx: can you help me set up compiz frm scratch? ive don it before but i dont remember how lol
[21:50] <ceschneider> sotap: but I'll be able to run gnome when I want, right?
[21:50] <MountainX> soulreaper - there is no need to "apply" - the settings become effective
[21:50] <wildman> amenado, errr... shouldn't be needed, cuz sdb will become sda once properly reconnected
[21:50] <Nineaxis> @JoeLinux117 I have a CD burner on my desktop, the one I just used to burn the ubuntu server cd
[21:50] <XiXaQ> UnSuNgLoSeR, I don't understand how fancy animated desktop effects is necessary in order to use ubuntu without problems. I'd think it's much more important to get connected to the internet.
[21:50] <|Dede|> What path is the deleted files folder at?
[21:50] <amenado> wildman-> you are going to fast for me, what are you trying to do?
[21:50] <JoeLinux117> @Nineaxis:  And that desktop is Windows?
[21:51] <Nineaxis> @JoeLinux117 Yes
[21:51] <wildman> amenado, I have sda, and bought a bigger sdb, I've already copied the whole thing (whole contents of sda) from sda to sdb
[21:51] <billybiculator> xixaq: i agree lol. i spent 3 months working on my bcm4311 before i just gave up and started using a wireless bridge i found layin aroun
[21:51] <UnSuNgLoSeR> yeah am getting to that
[21:51] <sotap> ceschneider: yes, refer to http://www.xubuntu.org/get
[21:51] <wildman> amenado, now I want to disconnect sda and connect sdb in its place, and have the exact same system I'm seeing right now (on sda)
[21:51] <UnSuNgLoSeR> thanks for all the help!
[21:51] <linkinxp> hey hello i have a question
[21:51] <billybiculator> !compiz
[21:51] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[21:51] <amenado> wildman-> okay, and you have transfered, now dont you want to test  to see if you can boot from /dev/sdb?
[21:51] <sphinxx> hi guys i have a question about /boot
[21:52] <billybiculator> !ask|linkinxp
[21:52] <ubotu> linkinxp: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[21:52] <MountainX> I need to know what will happen when I change a Group's ID. I want to know before I change it. I want to change my admin GID from 114 to 113. There is another group with ID 113 at the moment. So, how do I proceed?
[21:52] <amenado> wildman without removing /dev/sda
[21:52] <|Dede|> What path is the "deleted files folder" at?
[21:52] <wildman> amenado, I see where you are heading ...
[21:52] <linkinxp> when the new ubuntu comes out will i need to reinstall it ?? or it will update by it self?
[21:52] <wildman> if I can make it boot as sdb, it should then boot as sda, gotcha
[21:52]  * wildman editing menu.lst
[21:52] <soulreaper> MountainX well i set the horizontal virtual size to 4 and vertical virtual is set to one and number of deck tops are set to 4
[21:52] <sphinxx> people have told me theres no need to make a separate /boot partition, but in case that either winxp or linux got a virus that infected the boot record (i have dual boot), and there was no /boot partition, wouldnt i be screwed?
[21:52] <JoeLinux117> Nineaxis: Download a free CD burning program, cdburnerxp.se/download
[21:52] <|Dede|> What path is the "deleted files folder" at?
[21:52] <MountainX> set number of desktops to 1. You only need to change horiz virtual size to 4. The others stay at 1.
[21:53] <amenado> wildman-> not that quick, you may have to play around with the menu.lst on sdb
[21:53] <realmccoy_> hi
[21:53] <linkinxp> when the new ubuntu comes out will i need to reinstall it ?? or it will update by it self? ( im using the beta) billybiculator
[21:53] <Scunizi> |Dede|, ~/.trash
[21:53] <realmccoy_> i need help with my cube
[21:53] <JEEB> Does anyone have a newer tutorial for completely installing Japanese input via SCIM+Anthy on a non-Japanese install of Ubuntu. I tried earlier one tutorial but I never got full dictionaries working? :/
[21:53] <wildman> amenado, I see the root UUID...
[21:53] <|Dede|> ty
[21:53] <Luckrider> linkinxp, you will be able to uprade form inside the update manager
[21:53] <wildman> amenado, which refers to sda's... I'm sure sdb's is different... how do I find it out?
[21:53] <realmccoy_> i cant spin it it stays flat
[21:53] <linkinxp> Luckrider:  perfect thanks :D I Like ubuntu "D
[21:53] <soulreaper> ok its set but i still see 2 deck tops in the bottem right
[21:54] <Survivorman> does anyone know how to rename an sd card in linux? I can just rename it inline in windows, but rename is grayed out.
[21:54] <Luckrider> plus linkinxp, you should join #ubuntu+1
[21:54] <Luckrider> it is for Hardy
[21:54] <linkinxp> ho
[21:54] <amenado> wildman try to test it first, have an entry in the current menu.lst  to boot from sdb
[21:54] <linkinxp> okey thanks
[21:54] <linkinxp> my bad
[21:54] <MountainX> soulreaper - check out the compiz links I and others posted above
[21:54] <Pinchiukas> if I put a ubuntu livecd into the drive, can I test how well counter-strike: source plays?
[21:54] <soulreaper> can you post it agen
[21:55] <foo-nix> How can I install extra .sty packages in ubuntu, latex wont work
[21:55] <realmccoy_> i have4 desktops and still only flat switch no spin
[21:55] <foo-nix> (the latex command)
[21:55] <wildman> amenado, ok, added the entry =X =X (I've used root=/dev/sdb instead of root=UUID=....)
[21:55] <doctorow> I'm trying to set up a PDF printer in Ubuntu (Administration -> Printing -> etc) and when when I click "Apply" in the printer name step, I get prompted for my user account password, but it gets rejected. I'm sure I'm typing it correctly. Anyone know how to fix this?
[21:55] <wildman> amenado, rebooting... stay around a few minutes more please :)
[21:56] <EnginA> I want to see (and possibly record) what a user is doing in my system. Any solutions for that ? i.e. I could 'tail -f /home/user/.bash_history' or 'cat /dev/pts/x' ... but is there a neat solution
[21:56] <wildman> bbs... hopefully :)
[21:56] <foo-nix> i.e. I cannot install xcolor and listings using     latex xcolor.sty               and               latex listings.sty
[21:56] <Pinchiukas> install latex? ooh!
[21:57] <realmccoy_> how can i use remote access for smeone to fix my cube so it will spin
[21:57] <Pinchiukas> kinky, eh?
[21:57] <amenado> EnginA-> how was the user logged on?
[21:57] <EnginA> amenado, ssh
[21:57] <soulreaper> MountainX can you post the link agen
[21:57] <MountainX> soulreaper - several people posted compiz links for you. The one I posted was http://forum.compiz-fusion.org
[21:57] <billybiculator> are there any programs in ubuntu that allow computer to phone calling for free?
[21:57] <veco> Starnestommy: xchat dcc pending issue resolved  -removed xchat-gnome, installed xchat
[21:57] <Nineaxis> @JoeLinux117 I have the software and am in the screen to make the disk bootable but it won't accept .iso files
[21:58] <dwloetz> hey can anyone help me with my sound, its an ICH4 AC 97 soundcard, i have fooled with settings but it still will not play sound
[21:58] <Pinchiukas> billybiculator: skype? :)
[21:58] <billybiculator> for free
[21:58] <billybiculator> lol
[21:58] <amenado> EnginA-> just an idea, you can run a netcat proxy on your host and let the incoming ssh to use that? then you can monitor all the packets ? sounds plausible, never really put much thought to it though
[21:58] <Pinchiukas> for us residents it's free I think
[21:58] <EnginA> amenado, you know ssh is all about encryption
[21:58] <doctorow> Nevermind -- I just ran /usr/bin/system-config-printer as sudo
[21:58] <Pinchiukas> dwloetz: alsa?
[21:58] <dwloetz> yea
[21:59] <Pinchiukas> tried alsamixer?
[21:59] <realmccoy_> can someone please help me in private im tryin to make my cube spinn please!!
[21:59] <dwloetz> yea i am using the gnome alsa mixer
[21:59] <realmccoy_>  can someone please help me in private im tryin to make my cube spinn please!!
[21:59] <realmccoy_>  can someone please help me in private im tryin to make my cube spinn please!!
[21:59] <realmccoy_>  can someone please help me in private im tryin to make my cube spinn please!!
[21:59] <realmccoy_>  can someone please help me in private im tryin to make my cube spinn please!!
[21:59] <Pinchiukas> can you please shut the fuck up?
[21:59] <Starnestommy> !repeat | realmccoy_
[21:59] <ubotu> realmccoy_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[21:59] <dwloetz> lol
[21:59] <amenado> EnginA-> yes i know
[22:00] <soulreaper> are you shure i dont have to restart?
[22:00] <realmccoy_> ive tryed everything in every forem  it was working and just stoped in mid use
[22:00] <MountainX> soulreaper - I have not had to restart when I set up the desktop cube.
[22:01] <MountainX> if you wish, try ctrl-alt-backspace to just restart X
[22:01] <quambo> anyone know how to grant write access to a mounted nfs share? I mounted with rw option, but apparantly group/user file permissions still apply over nfs. I have no idea how to fix this because I can't exactly arbitrarily change my uid to match that of my server.
[22:01] <Pinchiukas> realmccoy_: I think I know what the problem is. You can easily fix it by stabbing yourself in the face.
[22:01] <alex101> oops
[22:01] <sphinxx> did anyone seen my question above
[22:01] <ceschneider> sotap: thank you very much!
[22:01] <sphinxx> do i need to create a separate /boot partition?
[22:01] <ceschneider> sotap: I get to go
[22:02] <MountainX> quambo - I have the same problem. It is recommended to either "manually sync" password and group files or to use OpenLDAP or something  simmilar
[22:02] <JEEB> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InputMethods/SCIM/Setup - is this tutorial still viable for the 7.10 version?
[22:02] <wildman> amenado, 1st, thx for ur patience, 2nd: it didn't work :(
[22:02] <MountainX> I am trying to find out how to manually sync passwd and group files. THen I will try OpenLDAP as second step.
[22:02] <realmccoy_> what should i do with the blood it is very tasty dont want to wast it
[22:03] <wildman> amenado, all I see is the hdd led blinking a lot and the Ubuntu boot progress bar doesn't move, that is, no progress
[22:03] <BrightEyes`> hi. something with my fat file system went wrong so i had to put the cd of windoze to repair it and unfortunately i lost the grub bootloader.how can i bring it back?
[22:03] <unop> MountainX, look into NIS and NIS+ and how they share system files like that
[22:03] <quambo> ah is that what these sync & async options do?
[22:03] <quambo> if its that tough maybe i'll screw it for now and just use sftp
[22:03] <xim> i remember an app that would display your diskspace usage really nicely in concentric circles of subfolders, anyone know what that app is called?
[22:03] <quambo> pain in the nuts though
[22:04] <teamcobra> hi all, I've followed the openldap/samba howto at: http://www.howtoforge.com/openldap-samba-domain-controller-ubuntu7.10 ... at the end of the 2nd page, when everything is configured, I rebooted it
[22:04] <realmccoy_> 8[22:04] <mmm4m5m> Hi all!
[22:04] <mmm4m5m> Question: is there good open source alternative for flash (web browser plugin)?
[22:04] <teamcobra> and now it refuses all http/ssh requests, even though I can ping it
[22:04] <icanhasadmin> Wow. that's.. really.. childish
[22:04] <stdin> !ops | realmccoy_
[22:04] <ubotu> realmccoy_: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpatrick or jussi01!
[22:04] <billy> how do i make more than 2 desktop panels?
[22:04] <icanhasadmin> mmm4m5m: no but i believe there's a bad one
[22:04] <jpatrick> stdin: ?
[22:04] <wildman> billy, right click -> Prefs, set the lines/columns you want
[22:05] <stdin> jpatrick: the ascii art
[22:05] <amenado> wildman paste your current menu.lst
[22:05] <wildman> amenado, I'm on it :)
[22:05] <mmm4m5m> icanhasadmin: thank you.
[22:05] <mmm4m5m> Question: Is it safe to install flash (web browser plugin)? What are things which I have to know when installing 3rd party software (close source)?
[22:05] <BrightEyes`> hi. something with my fat file system went wrong so i had to put the cd of windoze to repair it and unfortunately i lost the grub bootloader.how can i bring it back?
[22:05] <wildman> amenado, I'll paste the entry I've added
[22:05] <chuy> is the topic of this room correct Hardy will be delayed?
[22:06] <TWP-SirStaal> I got a partionated hard-drive. When I deleted some stuff in the partionated part of the hard-drive (the part were the linux isn't installed) but I regretted it and want them back. But when I looked in the linux trashcan they wasn't in there, someone know were I should check?
[22:06] <nbkr> chuy, Today is april the first.
[22:06] <amenado> EnginA-> take a look a this if it meets your needs http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-monitormainframe/
[22:07] <chuy> dugh I am an idiot
[22:07] <mmm4m5m> icanhasadmin: there is AppArmor, I read someone did monitor skype activities for linux. Maybe I have to read about AppArmor?
[22:07] <BaD_CrC> :)
[22:07] <wildman> amenado, http://pastebin.com/d433eff5c
[22:07] <amenado> april fools joke is only for americans?
[22:07] <icanhasadmin> mmm4m5m: that would be a good idea
[22:07] <wildman> amenado, no, in France it's normal too
[22:08] <chuy> I'm an american who has fallen for it hook line and sinker, stooopid me
[22:08] <wildman> amenado, it's called: Poisson d'Avril
[22:08] <wildman> we don't 'celebrate' it here in Buenos Aires
[22:08] <amenado> oh okay, am not sure if it works for latam
[22:08] <nbkr> amenado, same in germany and most parts of europe.
[22:08] <wildman> amenado, no, no funca acá :) (Sorry for ES, won't happen again)
[22:09] <amenado> wildman that was your whole menu.lst ? i wanted to see the current and the added entry for sdb
[22:09] <wildman> no current entry, just added one
[22:09] <nathan42100> nikrud: any idea why I have 2 network symbols a full pidgen symbol and a  half pidgin connecting symbol?
[22:09] <wildman> amenado, and no, that's just what I've added, the rest is the vanilla 7.1+updates menu.lst
[22:10] <amenado> wildman use your existing one and then add an entry for the one on sdb
[22:10] <wildman> that's what I did
[22:10] <EnginA> amenado, over complicated
[22:10] <wildman> amenado, wait, I'll paste it all
[22:10] <EnginA> amenado, I've did cat /dev/pts/11 | tee log > /dev/pts/11
[22:10] <amenado> EnginA-> works for you? cool
[22:10] <Scunizi> Is there a way to send an "ATDT" to a modem on ttyS0 from console just to see if it picks up the phone line?
[22:11] <wildman> amenado, errr... I'll just paste entries not being comments, I see little interest in pasting commented out parts of menu.lst
[22:11] <FreeDownload> have you seen this ? http://www.flickr.com/photos/12831039@N07/2380429329/in/set-72157604239305682/ :D
[22:12] <linuxmonger> Scunizi: echo "atdt" > /dev/ttyS0
[22:12] <Scunizi> linuxmonger, thanks.
[22:13] <wildman> amenado, http://pastebin.com/d3fd99dd0
[22:13] <foo-nix> Is there a way of installing latex packages in ubuntu
[22:13] <H-Breaker> hi gys
[22:13] <H-Breaker> *guys
[22:13] <linuxmonger> Scunizi: Then echo "ath" > /dev/ttyS0 to get it to shut up.
[22:13] <jamesish> foo-nix: apt-cache search latex
[22:13] <lionroar> Hmm, would anyone know why most of my USB devices aren't recognised at init time until i disconnect and reconnect them?  It's really annoying to have to keep doing that each time I turn my machine on.
[22:13] <Scunizi> linuxmonger, thanks that I had figured out.. sounds like the modem picks up and instantly drops..
[22:14] <amenado> wildman and what happens when at boot you select the new entry you added?
[22:14] <RADAR> suks
[22:14] <linkinxp> how i enable the SKULL (KILL) process what is the shorcut?
[22:14] <phreck> sigh. what happened to hardy..
[22:14] <RADAR> what is skull
[22:14] <wildman> amenado, what I explain in the 1st paste, the hdd led goes crazy and the progress bar doesn't advance
[22:14] <stefg> lionroar: could be a bios issue
[22:14] <linkinxp> let me rephrase which one is the shorcut for the kill processes ????
[22:15] <djm_> kjk
[22:15] <kyncani> linkinxp: the "skull" is xkill
[22:15] <linkinxp> ok any shorcut ?
[22:15] <jamesish> linkinxp: man killall might help, too.
[22:15] <linkinxp> lol ok
[22:15] <lionroar> stefg: well, I turned OFF USB2 detection (EHCI) since it was causing issues with my keyboard.  Turning it on has no effect for other devices, so I just leave it off.
[22:15] <kyncani> linkinxp: you can set up any shortcut you want using gnome or kde.
[22:15] <linkinxp> how?
[22:15] <amenado> wildman i dont recall what you said previously, status when you select the new entry?
[22:16] <Scunizi> linuxmonger, does that tell you like it tells me that there is an issue with it and it won't hold the line?
[22:16] <kyncani> linkinxp: well, in kde, i expect it to be in system settings
[22:16] <bonaldo2000> Hi, my kaffeine shows no picture on one account but works on another. Is it some config file I have to delete to make it work on the first account and if so which?
[22:16] <linkinxp> but im talkong for example in suse when i press certain keys the cursor changes to a SKULL and everything that i click it goes how i do that in ubuntu?
[22:17] <amenado> Scunizi-> it depends on how the modem is configured, if it waits for DSR or DTR or what not..
[22:17] <linuxmonger> Scunizi: Maybe, try to get it to dial a number atdt 5551212 or something.
[22:17] <wildman> amenado, I see the 'normal' boot screen (logo + Ubuntu + progress bar) but the orange progress bar doesn't move (it doesn't progress, it doesn't advance, it's frozen at the very beginning) and the hdd activity led on the computer goes crazy
[22:17] <magnetron> linkinxp: you need to start the "xkill" application
[22:17] <linkinxp> ok ok
[22:17] <Scunizi> linuxmonger, good idea.. thanks amenado ..
[22:17] <linkinxp> thanks let me see
[22:17] <linuxmonger> Scunizi: Or install minicom and you can try making a full connection.
[22:17] <stefg> lionroar: so i'd look if you have the latest bios for your your mobo... obviously the one you got has some bugs
[22:17] <magnetron> linkinxp: alt+f2 and then type "xkill" would have the same effect
[22:17] <amenado> wildman-> well that indicates your sdb is booting, perhaps the vmlinuz or the initrd were not correct when you copied it to sdb?
[22:18] <linkinxp> hooo
[22:18] <lionroar> stefg:  It is a shuttle XPC.
[22:18] <linkinxp>  nicee
[22:18] <wildman> amenado, errr... I've copied it exactly as it is sda
[22:18] <wildman> amenado, errr... I've copied it exactly as it is *in* sda
[22:18] <amenado> wildman including all the supporting files in /boot/grub ?
[22:19] <stefg> lionroar: same here ... check shuttle,com, they do quite a lot of updates
[22:19] <kate_mins> Hello, does someone know for good alarm clock software for ubuntu ?
[22:19] <linuxmonger> Good night folks.
[22:19] <wildman> fabman@monster:~$ md5sum /media/disk-1/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic
[22:19] <wildman> d659d9cef399af21602d0931307e7d7a  /media/disk-1/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic
[22:19] <wildman> fabman@monster:~$ md5sum /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic
[22:19] <wildman> d659d9cef399af21602d0931307e7d7a  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic
[22:19] <wildman> fabman@monster:~$
[22:19] <FloodBot3> wildman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:19] <wildman> same file
[22:19] <wildman> amenado, yes
[22:19] <amenado> wildman..ahh you're bad
[22:19] <lionroar> stefg:  Cool.  I've got the SD39P2 - brilliant machine.  Will look.
[22:19] <amenado> wildman   including  /boot/grub  ? all the stage1.5 stuff?
[22:20] <stefg> lionroar: and test if rearranging the devices makes a difference ...
[22:20] <wildman> amenado, I swear I see the same
[22:21] <linkinxp> how i add a new entry in the shortcuts management?
[22:21] <amenado> wildman also on you entry remove the  "quiet splash" so when you boot, you can see what is going on
[22:21] <phreck> anyone have a winmo phone here?
[22:21] <linkinxp> nop
[22:21] <yamo> no
[22:21] <amenado> wildman if you say so, am just playing a devils advocate, making sure you copied the right stuff
[22:21] <javb> Hellow guys, look, im using gnome network manager, i CAN see the wireless network when click on the icon in tray bar, but, when i click on the wireless network and trying to connect, it just stays as it didnt received dhcp.. wich is not true... have working with another laptop with XP here next to me.. any help please? (its a broadcom 43xx, and i`m using restricted drivers and firmware, the ones that comes with ubuntu 7.10)
[22:21] <jamesish> kate_mins: if you;re into that kind of thing, there's at and cron from the command line that rule.
[22:21] <wildman> amenado, the only thing I didn't copy was /proc and /sys cuz those are generated again, as I was told here
[22:21] <Scunizi> amenado, I'm trying to use efax-gtk which worked great on my previous USR that just died, I've replaced it with a USR Sportster v/d/f external hooked to the same serial port..
[22:22] <wildman> amenado, all the rest is exactly the same
[22:22] <amenado> wildman also on the device.map of the sdb  what is the contents?
[22:22] <sarah____> what works better with ubuntu, AMD/Intel?
[22:22] <jamesish> javb: what's the output of ifconfig?
[22:22] <wildman> amenado, I did try remove 'quiet splash' and the last 'quiet' line, and saw nothing but a black screen with the blinking text cursor on the left top corner
[22:22] <jamesish> javb: I believe you use pastebin on this forum, if that's something you need to know.
[22:23] <jamesish> javb: no, it's pastes.ubuntu.org, but don't just paste to the room.
[22:23] <amenado> wildman-> ctrl+alt+F1 F2  F3  shows anything?
[22:23] <wildman> amenado,  device.map has (hd0)   /dev/sda on both systems
[22:23] <lukkka> ciao a tutti
[22:23] <wildman> amenado, haven't tried that
[22:23] <wildman> amenado,  device.map has (hd0)   /dev/sda on both *disks*
[22:23] <amenado> wildman thats is wrong then, should be hd1 on the second one
[22:23] <javb> jamesish, =)    -->  http://pastebin.com/m58d051a7
[22:23] <wildman> amenado, so, (hd1) /dev/sdb ?
[22:24] <amenado> wildman affirmative
[22:24] <sarah____> what works better with ubuntu, AMD/Intel?
[22:24] <wildman> sarah____, both
[22:24] <amenado> sarah____-> better at what?
[22:24] <wildman> amenado, dun, rebooting =X =X
[22:24] <sarah____> functioning, compatability, and support
[22:24] <wildman> sarah____, both
[22:24] <wildman> :)
[22:24] <sarah____> some say intel is in the lead... others day amd will be in a few years
[22:25] <amenado> as the man says, both... :)
[22:25] <stefg> sarah____: it's not a question of cpu ... rather the motherboard chipset is interesting
[22:25] <wildman> amenado, see you soon... hopefully
[22:25] <jamesish> javb: is 192.168.80.stuff your address range?
[22:25] <javb> yes
[22:25] <sarah____> what about for graphic cards, ATI or Nvidia?
[22:25] <david49> I have no sound on gutsy gibbon, can anyone help please?
[22:25] <unop> sarah____, !polls in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[22:25] <javb> And i am, right now, using ethernet.
[22:25] <jamesish> javb: then you have an address. Try pinging your router, presumably at 192.168.80.1
[22:25] <stefg> sarah____: at the time nvidia, but that may change soon
[22:26] <jamesish> javb: aaaah, gotcha.
[22:26] <jamesish> javb: the easiest resolution is to simply statically address the interface.
[22:26] <stefg> !sound | david49
[22:26] <ubotu> david49: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[22:26] <jamesish> javb: but that's because I'm a freeBSD guy, not an ubuntu guy ;)
[22:26] <stefg> !intelhda | david49
[22:26] <ubotu> david49: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[22:27] <sarah____> stefg why might it change?
[22:27] <stefg> david49: and check that it's not simply muted in the mixer
[22:27] <amenado> sarah____-> marketeers want more of our money
[22:27] <billy> does ekiga softphone work for computer to phone calls?
[22:28] <sarah____> but ATI's drivers and such are not that good for linux right?
[22:28] <javb_> jamesish, sorry, GOT disconnected
[22:28] <javb_> jamesish, did you say something ?
[22:28] <javb_> jamesish, that my address range.
[22:28] <amenado> wildman i lost you?
[22:28] <david49> ubotu....it's a MSI mb, with a realtek onboard sound chip ,AMD, not intel
[22:28] <teo_> i have ubuntu 7.10 and i have patched the driver for bcm43xx injection.. but when i use airplay-ng i doesn't send packets.. it only reads :S some help pls..
[22:28] <jamesish> javb: it's cool
[22:29] <billy> howcome i can only use workspace #1 even though i have 4 of them in my bottom corner?
[22:29] <billy> teo_: throw ur bcm43xx card off the top of the empire state building and get something else
[22:29] <jamesish> javb_: you can statically address it, more than likely resolving the issue, unless the device is simply unsupported.
[22:30] <JEEB> Hmm... So I guess no-one in this room uses scim+anthy for inputting Japanese?
[22:30] <tobberoth> I installed mplayer-nogui and want to play a .mov in CLI. I've tried -vo sdl and -vo fbdev2, neither works
[22:30] <teo_> billy, i can't.. i need to throw my laptop :)
[22:30] <amenado> teo_-> you are one lucky person to get a bcm43xx working
[22:30] <tobberoth> My guess is that i'm simply lacking fbdev2, how do I get it for ubuntu?
[22:30] <billy> teo_: wut kinda laptop?
[22:30] <teo_> billy, acer extensa 5220
[22:30] <mastaofdisasta> hey guys, I have 2 ubuntu based smtp servers.  How can I separate outgoing smtp with incoming smtp?
[22:30] <sarah____> does anyone here use pine or alphine for ubuntu/linux?
[22:31] <mastaofdisasta> among 2 servers
[22:31] <stefg> tobberoth: famebuffer is broken in gutsy
[22:31] <tobberoth> stefg: Oh really... now that's not very good :/
[22:31] <stefg> i know ...
[22:31] <sarah____> stefg do you use "pine"?
[22:32] <tobberoth> Isn't gutsy supposed to be stable?
[22:32] <teo_> billy, i saw some ppl on forums which have enabled the injection.. and also i patch the driver from the guide on ubuntu forums.. but the airplay only reads packets :S i can't send.. i don't know whats the problem..
[22:32] <billy> teo_: broadcom sucks.. i gave up and connected a bridge to my ethernet port and thats how im on right now
[22:32] <stefg> sarah____: pine is not even in the repos, and i ususally use a graphical email client
[22:32] <linkinxp> what do i press to invoke this /apps/metacity/keybinding_commands/command_1???
[22:32] <phreck> I need to know if there is an effective winmo sync solution/internet tethering solution out there. anyone have any input?
[22:32] <teo_> billy, ok thnx..
[22:32] <Shubbar> i get logged out as soon as i connect my printer to usb?
[22:33] <Jowi> tobberoth, try "mplayer -vo fbdev -fs movie.avi" this will only work if you have enabled a framebuffer resolution in GRUB (for example vga=791)
[22:33] <sarah____> pine is not? my gusty has it
[22:33] <sarah____> or it migth be "alpine"
[22:33] <stefg> !info pine
[22:33] <ubotu> Package pine does not exist in gutsy
[22:33] <sarah____> !info alpine
[22:33] <ubotu> Package alpine does not exist in gutsy
[22:33] <Shubbar> it was just not printing
[22:33] <sarah____> well i used ssh to read my emails
[22:33] <sarah____> isnt that pine?
[22:33] <billy> teo_: im not having any problems wutsoever now.. you can get a bridge for 20 bucks these days
[22:34] <tobberoth> Thanks Jowi but no, it didn't work :/
[22:34] <Jowi> tobberoth, tip when you get it to work: try the "-xy 1024" if you use 1024x768 resolution for fullscreen goodness in console :)
[22:34] <teo_> billy, i want to fix this card... it's not the money:)
[22:34] <Jowi> tobberoth, you sure you use the framebuffer?
[22:34] <jtravnick> teo_, did you try the restricted drivers?
[22:34] <tobberoth> Jowi: I don't have a framebuffer installed I think, I can't find any in apt-get
[22:34] <teo_> jtravnick, i can connect and i can use monitor mode.. but i cant inject
[22:34] <billy> teo_: i spent like three months on my bcm4311 card to no avail
[22:34] <billy> teo: u on a dell?
[22:35] <Jowi> tobberoth, fbdev does not need to be installed. should work fine if enabled in grub (and doublecheck BIOS/CMOS settings as well).
[22:35] <jtravnick> have no idea what inject is
[22:35] <Jowi> !framebuffer | tobberoth
[22:35] <ubotu> tobberoth: Information about changing your framebuffer modes in GRUB can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer#grub
[22:35] <teo_> billy, no on acer.. and i won't give up till i fix it ;)
[22:35] <yamo> stefg: in a terminal : apt-cache search pine
[22:35] <yamo> alpine - Text-based email client, friendly for novices but powerful
[22:35] <stefg> tobberoth: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/135613 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=652038
[22:36] <viator> if i was to convert some avi files to another more web friendly format what would it be?
[22:36] <unop> viator, mpg or flash probably
[22:37] <K4k-laptop> can someone tell me the version of the fglrx driver that is supposed to work properly, there is some new one that's beta or something isnt there?
[22:37] <viator> im looking for somthing straightforward to do it
[22:38] <viator> in ubuntu of course
[22:39] <mactaylor> is better to stick with ubuntus version of a program or compile the latest program??????????????????????????????/
[22:39] <Jowi> stefg, that's some unusual modification to a distro. You know if LTS will also implement this?
[22:39] <stefg> viator: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=567016
[22:40] <ompaul> !best | mactaylor
[22:40] <ubotu> mactaylor: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[22:40] <tobberoth> Jowi: I added vga=791 to my distro, no change. Do i need to restart my computer?
[22:40] <stefg> Jowi: you mean if framebuffer in hardy will still be broken, or what?
[22:40] <Cope57> Did you also want Compiz installed with fglrx?
[22:40] <Jowi> tobberoth, yes
[22:40] <ompaul> !compile | mactaylor
[22:40] <ubotu> mactaylor: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[22:40] <wildman> amenado, I've found out the UUID of the disk (I guess) and used that as root= for menu.lst, I leave it booting and I get a busybox prompt and my keyboard doesn't work
[22:41] <larswey> can anyone recomend a goot ftp-server for ubuntu??
[22:41] <wildman> I cannot believe that moving the system from one disk to the other is such a nasty process...
[22:41] <Jowi> stefg, nah, more the question that they will be disabled by default...?
[22:41] <stefg> !ftp | larswey
[22:41] <wildman> LILO installed in a much, much more simpler way than grub...
[22:41] <ubotu> larswey: FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[22:41] <larswey> !gftp
[22:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gftp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:41] <Datz> when using a live cd, where are the temp files that i donwload stored...like codecs?
[22:42] <Cope57> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#ATI_users_and_Compiz
[22:42] <mactaylor> !ooxml
[22:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ooxml - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:42] <wildman> Amaranth, thx for your time, I'll google a bit about about grub now...
[22:42] <amenado> wildman when it tries to boot the entry you added?  what happens next? you just get thrown to busybox?
[22:42] <wildman> oups
[22:42] <larswey> !FTPd
[22:42] <ubotu> FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[22:42] <OneTB> how do I add a service running as non-root
[22:42] <stefg> Jowi: i don't know. Actually i found it ridiculous that gutsy was released with such a fat bug, which i'd a call a showstopper. But i'm confident that Hardy will be back on track
[22:42] <wildman> amenado, 1st, I didn't, that's how I found out the UUID, then I've modified the menu.lst with the newly found UUID, and I'm just thrown to busybox 'help' prompt without a working keyboard
[22:43] <wildman> Amaranth, that wasn't for you ;)
[22:43] <Shubbar> i need help with my canon printer
[22:43] <Datz> when using a live cd, where are the temp files that i donwload stored...like codecs? are they stored somewhere on the hard disk, or just in ram?
[22:43] <stefg> !prinet | Shubbar
[22:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about prinet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:43] <stefg> !printer | Shubbar
[22:43] <ubotu> Shubbar: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[22:43] <Jowi> stefg, :) cheers for the info. I sort of decided to wait for LTS instead of upgrading to Gutsy.
[22:43] <amenado> wildman-> what if you dont use UUID?  did you take care of the device.map i asked earlier?
[22:43] <OneTB> how do I add a service running as non-root
[22:44] <wildman> amenado, 1st time I tried (with root=/dev/sdb) hdd led blinked a lot, I left it there for a while, and tried Alt+F1, it said "Starting..." or "Loading..." and I saw busybox too, with working keyboard, and lots of messages stating that the 'device /dev/sdb' couldn't the found
[22:44] <stefg> Jowi: and you were wise to do so ....
[22:44] <wildman> amenado, yes, I did
[22:44] <_boto> i know you all very busy, but may i ask something about my mircorphone problem on 7.1?
[22:44] <wildman> amenado, I've even copied menu.lst over to the 2nd disk before trying
[22:44] <wildman> amenado, I mean, the modified one
[22:44] <wildman> _boto, dont' ask if you can ask, just ask
[22:45] <_boto> k, i cannot get my micro input running, the alsa and oss fail both
[22:45] <wildman> amenado, I'm very dissapointed with all this trouble...
[22:45] <Datz>  when using a live cd, where are the temp files that i donwload stored...like codecs? are they stored somewhere on the hard disk, or just in ram?
[22:45] <_boto> i have an intel on-board sound chip
[22:45] <_boto> google could not help :-/
[22:45] <wildman> amenado, I swear this operation (moving the OS from one disk to another, and have that other disk bootable) was much, much easier before...
[22:45] <amenado> wildman you seem to be mixing stuff...lets do this step by step
[22:45] <OneTB> Datz, I believe in the ram
[22:46] <root> Jowi: That didn't work too fine. When I picked my kernel in grub, it started.. or something. But my display went completely black.
[22:46] <Unitux> Datz ram
[22:46] <Datz> OneTB, thanks alot :)
[22:46] <OneTB> datz, but could be written as temp files
[22:46] <amenado> wildman  did you modify the /boot/grub/device.map  as I suggested earlier?
[22:46] <soulreaper> hay mountainx you here
[22:46] <Shubbar> i didn't see my canon model supported - LBP3300
[22:46] <OneTB> datz, sure
[22:46] <wildman> amenado, yes, I did
[22:46] <amenado> wildman what is it pointing to?
[22:46] <Shubbar> i installed linux drivers from canon site
[22:46] <wildman> amenado, I won't paste here, the bot won't like it ;)
[22:46] <wildman> amenado, wait plz
[22:46] <OneTB> how do I add a service running as non-root
[22:47] <amenado> wildman can you re-paste your current menu.lst now as you have booted and getting that busy box?
[22:47] <Shubbar> i had the same drivers work on a fedora box
[22:47] <wildman> amenado, I will. wait plz
[22:47] <xb3rt> This is kind of a dumb question, but how to I add extra space on my firefox bookmarks bar
[22:48] <OneTB> how do I add a service running as non-root
[22:48] <_boto> when i do a sound record test in audio settings then i get a failure notice. any idea what i should try?
[22:48] <Jowi> root, (unfourtunatly) the second link that stefg gave seems to be what you need: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=652038
[22:48] <amenado> Shubbar-> what are you trying to do?
[22:48] <Stoffer> i'm trying to format my external hdd with gparted, but I keep getting an error: http://www.pastebin.org/26771  Can someone help me out?
[22:48] <Shubbar> print with my Canon LBP3300
[22:49] <wildman> amenado, http://pastebin.com/d6dad5809
[22:49] <kazol_> sluimers: Still doesn't work...
[22:49] <amenado> !who | Shubbar
[22:49] <ubotu> Shubbar: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[22:49] <kazol_> How do I retain my WPA key in the network administration tool so I won't have to enter it after each reboot?
[22:49] <amenado> kazol_-> in your /etc/network/interfaces
[22:49] <soulreaper> hay mountinx you still in hear?
[22:49] <kazol_> amenado: I still have to enter it.
[22:49] <Cope57> Leaked Release Announcement Describes Ubuntu Jabbering Jackass
[22:49] <Cope57> http://www.linuxloop.com/news/2008/03/31/leaked-release-announcement-describes-ubuntu-jabbering-jackass/
[22:49] <OneTB> kazol, set it to the keyring, then change the keyring to retain password
[22:50] <amenado> kazol_-> one time.
[22:50] <mister> anyone know about xgl with open gl apps like google earth?
[22:50] <Shubbar> ubotu, can cups work with a not listed printer?
[22:50] <stefg> Shubbar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters/CanonPrinters/Canon_LBP_2900 applies
[22:50] <OneTB> how do I add a service running as non-root
[22:50] <Cope57> I am using it mister
[22:50] <kazol_> amenado: I'll try it again (I'll have the wpa-psk key).
[22:50] <cherwin_> OneTB: what are you trying to do?
[22:50] <wildman> Shubbar, ubotu is a bot, it won't answer you like that :)
[22:51] <OneTB> I set up vnc on desktop but I want to add it to services so it launches on boot
[22:51] <amenado> wildman on your menu.list remove this root=UUID=777f3ba1-d484-4556-8b2a-4f2fb78f76f3  and replace it with just root=/dev/sdb1
[22:51] <Shubbar> wildman, how stupid of me chatting with a bot
[22:51] <wildman> amenado, on both sda and sdb?
[22:51] <wildman> amenado, or just on sda?
[22:51] <xlrrn> Hi, can someone tell me how to search for a word or phrase in the nano text editor? Thanks.
[22:51] <amenado> wildman only on the sdb the new entry
[22:52] <Jowi> xlrrn, ctrl-w
[22:52] <thoreauputic> xlrrn: ctrl+w
[22:52] <xlrrn> Jowi: Thanks
[22:52] <wildman> amenado, on both sda's /boot and sdb's /boot, or just on sda's ?
[22:52] <stefg> xlrrn: ctrl-w
[22:52] <cherwin_> you could use su
[22:52] <amenado> wildman  you added the entry for sdb right?  now remove that UUID line and replace per my suggestion
[22:53] <OneTB> cherwin, what is the command to execute services from term
[22:53] <keit1> every time I unzip more than one zip file at a time it keeps adding (2) to the end randomly of the unzipped folder name... how do i stop this?
[22:53] <wildman> amenado, yes, what I'm not getting good at making you understand is:
[22:53] <amenado> wildman i dont trust uuid on grub...it misses it
[22:53] <wildman> amenado, nevermind... I'll modify both menu.lst
[22:54] <jodie> Is it a bad time to ask for info to get my hp nx9010 laptop wireless adapter working with ubuntu 6.04
[22:54] <kazol_> amenado: It does not work; I have to enter it each time.
[22:54] <amenado> kazol_-> paste in pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces  file contents
[22:55] <stefg> jodie: 6.04 doesn't exist
[22:55] <Tu13es> hm, I've got Gutsy on a Mac Mini natively.  now it freezes during boot, won't boot from CD and I can't get it to boot from USB. wtf!
[22:55] <wildman> amenado, interesting... grub was installed under /boot/boot on sda :P
[22:55] <alex101> Hey can anyone help? im trying to install bluefish html editor and its not working.
[22:56] <amenado> wildman-> it modified your existing /boot on sda?
[22:56] <wildman> amenado, that's why I was trying from the beginning to install on a different place with --root-directory=/the/place/where/sdb1/is/mounted
[22:56] <stefg> Tu13es: is that a PPC or Intel MiniMac ?
[22:56] <wildman> amenado, which didn't work
[22:56] <amenado> wildman its easy to move from /boot/boot to /boot
[22:56] <ZoiX> alex101: sudo apt-get install bluefish
[22:56] <keit1> 6.04? what was that called!
[22:56] <kazol_> amenado: http://pastebin.com/d4d3bb67d
[22:56] <jodie> Not using the laptop currently. I'll get back as soon as I get a wired connection working..
[22:56] <wildman> amenado, yes, cuz you told me not to put /mnt (the place where sdb1 was mounted) as value for the --root-directory grub-install command
[22:56] <stefg> !dapper | kazol_:
[22:56] <ubotu> kazol_:: Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) was the fourth release of Ubuntu. See !lts for more details.
[22:57] <amenado> wildman its okay, no worries
[22:57] <Tu13es> stefg: Intel
[22:57] <wildman> amenado, I think I won't move anything, I fear I won't be able to boot neither sda, nor sdba ;)
[22:57] <alex101> ZoiZ
[22:57] <jodie> Its 6. something I'll check again
[22:57] <kazol_> stefg: ?
[22:57] <alex101> ZoiX*
[22:57] <Tu13es> trying Recovery Mode now. looks like it got farther but either isnt booting or taking a while
[22:57] <alex101> it justsaid this
[22:57] <alex101> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[22:57] <amenado> wildman  you can see that your /boot still exist right? it just added another boot subdir  yesh?
[22:57] <stefg> kazol_: sorry, mout of line error, was for keit1
[22:57] <wildman> amenado, yep
[22:58] <OneTB> any one know how to open services from the command line
[22:58] <keit1> dapper was 6.06 and ahrdy is 8.04 but was there ever a 6.04? i certainly don't remember one! ;)
[22:58] <Xeon06> Hey all. I have a little problem. I have a mic that works fine under Windows but not Ubuntu. Anybody has an idea?
[22:58] <stefg> !dapper | keit1
[22:58] <ubotu> keit1: Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) was the fourth release of Ubuntu. See !lts for more details.
[22:58] <ZoiX> alex101: is because you actually have open Synaptic or another similar process
[22:58] <wildman> amenado, ok, dun, changed UUID for /dev/sdb1, rebooting =X
[22:58] <Cope57> 6.04 and 6.10 were the only two for 2006
[22:58] <amenado> kazol_-> seems like you are missing a word like "key"  or is that how it is supposed to be?
[22:58] <alex101> Closed synaptic now, ill try now :)
[22:58] <ZoiX> alex101: yeap
[22:58] <keit1> stefg: cheers but  was probing jodie
[22:58] <kazol_> amenado: It was generated by default.
[22:59] <stefg> !version | jodie
[22:59] <ubotu> jodie: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[22:59] <alex101> Thanks ZoiX its downloading now.
[22:59] <keit1> so was was the release cycle  6.04 -> 6.06 -> 6.10?
[22:59] <ZoiX> alex101: ok :)
[22:59] <amenado> kazol_-> let me check what the manual says
[22:59] <Cope57> every six months
[22:59] <Cope57> Just for Ubuntu though
[22:59] <kazol_> amenado: When I reboot, there is no internet connection-I have to open Network Manager and change the very long string to the temporary short key I have.
[23:00] <kazol_> amenado: So clearly the key in Network Manager is different from the actual key...maybe it's PSK?
[23:00] <keit1> Cope57: I joined the family at 6.06 then 7.04 then 7.10 and waiting with baited breath for hardy
[23:00] <Cope57> Personally I believe in using one release and have a continued rolling release. No need to download a new release every time.
[23:00] <archangelpetro> what package is needed to compile the NVIDIA driver, from their installation Bin?
[23:00] <kazol_> amenado: In that case, I don't understand why I have to enter my key each time for it to generate the same PSK.
[23:01] <javb_> jamesish, http://pastebin.com/m1de86e52, this is my interfaces.conf .. shoulnt i have adde my wireless or something
[23:01] <keit1> Cope57: i think that would be nice. so do you not use ubuntu?
[23:01] <javb_> Wow, this is weird, it was working just before doing some upgrade
[23:01] <wildman> amenado, it seems to have worked...
[23:01] <wildman> amenado, I've added (hd0) /dev/sda and (hd1) /dev/sdb to the .map files
[23:01] <Cope57> I use Debian, but I tried Ubuntu back with ver. 4.06
[23:01] <wildman> amenado, and now I'm supposedly on sdb's OS
[23:01] <amenado> kazol_-> i cant easily find the correct syntax of wpa-psk
[23:02] <amenado> wildman you can verify  via mount
[23:02] <wildman> amenado, I've touched a file on / called SEGUNDO (2nd) and I can see it on /
[23:02] <wildman> on sdb's /, that is
[23:02] <Level15> hi. i am using the alternate cd to recover my grub. the problem is that it is not being recovered... when i reboot, it still goes straight into windows, now grub menu or anything... any suggestions on how to fix it by hand?
[23:02] <wildman> amenado, however:
[23:02] <sarah____> hey guys, how do you customize terminal?
[23:03] <mactaylor> does ubuntu slow down like vista with more space used on the hdd?
[23:03] <wildman> amenado, mount tells me: /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[23:03] <sarah____> i.e when i do "ls" some files are green/orange/yellow" etc
[23:03] <sarah____> how come?
[23:03] <kindofabuzz> sarah____: different kinds of files
[23:03] <wildman> amenado, shouldn't it be telling me /dev/sdb1 instead? or grub changed sdb to sda at boot time?
[23:03] <amenado> wildman then you have not booted to sdb, did you select from grub menu the new entry you added?
[23:03] <stefg> Level15: getting the super grub disk and letting it do an autofix might be easiest
[23:03] <wildman> yes, I did
[23:03] <Cope57> sarah____ right click in terminal edit profile
[23:03] <alex101> Does anyone know any good mp3 recording programs for ubuntu, like, so i can record stuff from my microphone into an mp3 or soundfile?
[23:03] <Level15> stefg: supergrub disk... lemme find that
[23:04] <sarah____> cope57 is there any "themes" for terminal?
[23:04] <sarah____> or scripts?
[23:04] <amenado> wildman-> you can put a lil marker, like say you create another dir in /dev/sda that dont exist in /dev/sdb  and verify it htat way?
[23:04] <kindofabuzz> sarah____: they are supposed to be cloored to distinquish betwwn directorys and files, ant types of files
[23:04] <wildman> amenado, I'll reboot with normal entry, and be back shortly...
[23:04] <sarah____> oh i see
[23:04] <wildman> amenado, that's what I've tried with /SEGUNDO, but I'll make a folder better
[23:04] <wildman> amenado, back in a few mins
[23:04] <stefg> Level15: http://forjamari.linex.org/frs/?group_id=61
[23:04] <alex101> Does anyone know any good mp3 recording programs for ubuntu, like, so i can record stuff from my microphone into an mp3 or soundfile?
[23:05] <peter77> sarah____, themes for the terminal, you can create custom profiles etc!
[23:05] <Cope57> sarah____ I do not know what else you would want, I just have mine with a gray font and black background that is semi-transparent.
[23:05] <kindofabuzz> alex101: maybe overkill, but audicity
[23:05] <sarah____> creating a custome profile, im not good with "picking colors!"
[23:05] <alex101> YOU CAN GET AUDACITY FOR LINUX?!
[23:05] <kindofabuzz> alex101: umm yeah
[23:05] <kazol_> !caps | alex101
[23:05] <ubotu> alex101: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[23:05] <alex101> Yay :)
[23:06] <Cope57> actual themes are found in System > Preferences > Appearance
[23:06] <alex101> Sorry i was just happy bout having audacity lol.
[23:06] <ampex2> I have a bridge set up as my main interface and it includes eth0, I want to add an eth0:0 with a different IP but I can't seem to make it work with the bridge, any ideas?
[23:06] <alex101> Anyone got the terminal code for the Audacity install?
[23:06] <alex101> (I'm kindanew to linux)
[23:06] <Jowi> alex101, "soundconverter" is ok
[23:06] <Jowi> !info soundconverter
[23:06] <ubotu> Package soundconverter does not exist in gutsy
[23:06] <Jowi> ah. hmm
[23:06] <Cope57> sudo apt-get install audicity
[23:07] <alex101> Wish i knew how to just do that Cope57
[23:07] <alex101> lol
[23:07] <alex101> Wait, it said couldn't find package audacity
[23:08] <kazol_> alex101: Run terminal, type in "sudo apt-get install audacity"
[23:08] <mike_> nici un roman pe aici?
[23:08] <Cope57> audacity not found?
[23:08] <Jowi> !info audacity
[23:08] <ubotu> Package audacity does not exist in gutsy
[23:08] <sarah____> does anyone have their own pop3 for ubuntu?
[23:08] <alex101> Ah its working now
[23:08] <alex101> thank you.
[23:08] <Draggin> Good evening/morning!  I wonder if someone could direct me to a relevant page on installing software, since I'm not quite sure how to phrase my search and I'm not getting the results I need.  I would like some more information on how to go about installing software for specific users on an Ubuntu system (e.g. office_user would be the only one to have access to OpenOffice, sound_user the only one to have access to Ardour and Audacity, etc.
[23:08] <Jowi> in feisty it's in the universe repo....
[23:09] <kindofabuzz> alex101: http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
[23:09] <kyncani> !info ubuntu-desktop
[23:09] <ubotu> Package ubuntu-desktop does not exist in gutsy
[23:09] <stefg> !software | Draggin
[23:09] <ubotu> Draggin: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[23:09] <jin__> sarah____: what do you mean with pop3?
[23:09] <sarah____> your own webmail
[23:09] <sarah____> pop3 account
[23:09] <kyncani> Jowi: this !info thing seems broken does not it ?
[23:09] <venka1> hello i cannot boot into ubuntu without acpi=off arg and with that it is oveheating
[23:09] <Draggin> Thanks, stefg - I'll have a look at that
[23:09] <jin__> sarah____: like sara@ubuntu.com?
[23:09] <venka1> can anyone help me fix?
[23:09] <sarah____> no like sara@myhostname
[23:09] <wildman> amenado, well... I have a mix :)
[23:09] <Jowi> kyncani, it does. broken is a good word for it.
[23:09] <billy> im having issues with my display, its' really hard to explain, but like the text is repeating above itself..
[23:09] <ZoiX> Draggin: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy
[23:09] <Cope57> Draggin try http://ubuntuguide.org
[23:10] <wildman> amenado, when on normal boot, I've sudo mkdir /TOTO
[23:10] <sarah____> setting up a pop3 on ubuntu desktop i.e sara@myhostname
[23:10] <jin__> sarah____: ah, you are talking about an e-mail client
[23:10] <neztit2> لعغس شىغخىث نىخص صاثقث هس فاث ؤاشىىثمس خى ةغفافر؟؟
[23:10] <sarah____> yeah
[23:10] <jin__> sarah____: you can use evolution to check your mails
[23:10] <billy> i can barely see what everyone is writing, it looks like a really dirty inkjet printer, can anyone help?
[23:10] <CptAtom> hey guys
[23:10] <kelvin911> hello when i was playing World of Padman, the screen go black then it runs in window mode and i can not use mouse or keyboard and force me to hard reboot
[23:10] <amenado> wildman mix?
[23:10] <freeWordPressBlo> hi i just installed phpmyadmin via aptitude. the quick install refers to a config.inc.php file but i can't find it. where should it be located?
[23:10] <wildman> amenado, now, after rebooting with the entry I've added for sdb,  ls / | grep TOTO comes empty, which is perfect...
[23:10] <sarah____> jin__ no, i dont want to check my own email
[23:10] <sarah____> i want my "own" email
[23:10] <neztit2> guys any one can tell me where is the channels be on mythtv?
[23:10] <wildman> amenado, ... however:  mount | grep sd -> /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[23:11] <stefg> Draggin: so do you just want to have custom menus for each user or do you want to actively prevent a particualr user from running , say, openoffice ?
[23:11] <alex101> Where will overkill and audacity be saved to? cuz i cant find them in the sound option in applications.
[23:11] <jin__> sarah____: then you need to setup a mail server.. :\
[23:11] <Jowi> billy, does a reboot solve it?
[23:11] <billy> it started right after a reboot lol
[23:11] <sarah____> to create my own pop3 account like sarah@is.cool.com
[23:11] <sarah____> i dont liek gmail/aol/hotmail
[23:11] <wildman> amenado, I can confirm the / is sdb's content
[23:11] <kindofabuzz> kelvin911: WoP is still buggy i think, it causes me sometime to go to 800x600 in a window, but sound is still running and i have to hard boot
[23:11] <sarah____> is it possible to do jin__?
[23:11] <billy> sarah: i think you have to have ur own email server for that
[23:11] <neztit2> guys pls help
[23:11] <neztit2> guys any one can tell me where is the channels be on mythtv?
[23:11] <jin__> sarah____: sarah____to do that,  you need your own domain name
[23:11] <billy> !ask|neztit2
[23:12] <ubotu> neztit2: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[23:12] <amenado> wildman-> check the /etc/fstab you have both in the existing and the one that is in /dev/sdb
[23:12] <wildman> amenado, sorry, again: I can confirm the / content is sdb's (that is the disk I've transferred everything too)
[23:12] <kelvin911> kindofabuzz: so how to fix that?
[23:12] <Tucci> I am unable to connect to a network now that a WEP password has been placed on it. My computer just keeps asking for the password every few minutes. Any help?
[23:12] <jin__> sarah____: yes, but then you need a pc that's 24/7 connected to the internet
[23:12] <kindofabuzz> kelvin911: i dunno, read the wop boards
[23:12] <Cope57> neztit2 I could not find a IRC channel
[23:12] <billy> jowi: any ideas?
[23:12] <Jowi> billy, sounds like the video ram is wacky. shutting the PC off *totally* and then start it up again. if that does not help.. umm..
[23:12] <jin__> sarah____: but you can do it with a hosting provider ;) much easier
[23:12] <Cope57> http://www.mythtv.org
[23:12] <kelvin911> kindofabuzz: just press the reset button? no other choice?
[23:12] <alex101> Does anyone know how i can open my audacity and overkill? cuz its not in sound section in applications.
[23:12] <wildman> amenado, I think that may be the pb, fstab is sda's, that's what's confuzing mount
[23:12] <billy> jowi: okay thanks, ill try it
[23:12] <amenado> wildman the /etc/fstab for /dev/sdb should be different  and not an exact copy of what is in /dev/sda
[23:12] <Level15> stefg: supergrub disk didn't fix it :(
[23:12] <tobberoth> Jowi: That link worked! My CLI is now beautiful. BUT, for some reason I got an american keyboard setting, even though my keyboard is swedish.
[23:12] <sarah____> but can't i do it with my ubuntu desktop jin__. I will only be able to acces it when its online. I can live with that.
[23:12] <kindofabuzz> kelvin911: try ctl-alt backspace first
[23:12] <kelvin911> kindofabuzz: i have video and sound, but in window mode and can not use mouse or keyboard
[23:13] <wildman> fstab has UUIDs too
[23:13] <kindofabuzz> kelvin911: yup that's exactly what i get
[23:13] <amenado> wildman-> well, you are doing things in adhoc, thats why all these mis-steps, if you planned it right.. :P
[23:13] <kelvin911> kindofabuzz: ok next time i got this error i try that
[23:13] <sarah____> jin__ what would i need to do this?
[23:13] <wildman> amenado, ok, I'm on the right path now (it seems)
[23:13] <kinnune> any1 know a good wine guide?
[23:13] <kelvin911> gota go to work
[23:13] <Jowi> tobberoth, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup" should let you set "se" keymap
[23:13] <kelvin911> bye
[23:13] <neztit2> Cope57: what???
[23:13] <kelvin911> kindofabuzz: thx
[23:13] <kindofabuzz> kinnune: www.windhq.com
[23:13] <wildman> amenado, I did plan it right, it's just that's really messy to install the bootloader on the 2nd disk to make it bootable, not to mention that it will be the 1st disk once I remove the current 1st disk :P
[23:13] <Teslacuted> kinnune: some chablis can be very nice ;)
[23:13] <jin__> sarah____: then you still need a domain name, which will cost you around 8 usd a year
[23:13] <kindofabuzz> www.winehq.com =)
[23:14] <amenado> wildman the funny thing is you have to change these all again upon removal of current sda  and moving sdb in place of sda  ..hehe
[23:14] <wildman> yep :)
[23:14] <tobberoth> Jowi: Thanks!
[23:14] <jin__> sarah____: but this is not Ubuntu specific
[23:14] <Cope57> (05:12:16 PM) Cope57: neztit2 I could not find a IRC channel only http://www.mythtv.org
[23:14] <wildman> amenado, ok, I'm on the right track now, I'll make modifs later and check
[23:14] <Jowi> tobberoth, ÅÄÖ is needed in CLI after all ;)
[23:14] <wildman> amenado, then, remove sda and we'll see :)
[23:14] <kinnune> i think its winehq.org
[23:14] <sarah____> yeah i know jin__ thanks
[23:14] <amenado> wildman the key part is you know you can boot from /dev/sdb as of now..
[23:14] <kindofabuzz> sarah____: gmail is one of the best services out there
[23:14] <neztit2> Cope57: thank you man
[23:14] <wildman> amenado, gotta go now, thanks for your wisdom, time and patience
[23:14] <mad_max02> CMON ALL SING " HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ME " :D
[23:14] <amenado> wildman you're welcome
[23:15] <wildman> bye ppl
[23:15] <sarah____> kindofabuzz i know, they are good, but im doing this for a learning experiance
[23:15] <wildman> amenado, thx again
[23:15] <Jowi> mad_max02, but... it is not my birthday :-(
[23:15] <tobberoth> Jowi, it says console-setup is broken or not fully installed
[23:15] <kindofabuzz> i think sarah____ likes to customize ALOT, that's why she wants her own, just like she was talking about the colors of terminal
[23:15] <sarah____> :) yup
[23:15] <Jowi> tobberoth, apt-cache policy console-setup
[23:15] <Cope57> she hates brown that's wgy
[23:15] <Cope57> err why
[23:15] <sarah____> i got white/green colors now with a transparent background
[23:15] <Jowi> tobberoth, does it say it is installed?
[23:15] <sarah____> neato huh :P
[23:15] <gio> kkm
[23:16] <kindofabuzz> sarah____: well that's the beauty of linux.. you can do almost anything (as long as you know how) =)
[23:16] <tobberoth> Jowi: it says installed (none)
[23:16] <Jowi> tobberoth, sudo apt-get install console-setup
[23:16] <sarah____> i need to get my AWN working again,argh. Somethines happend i had to remove it
[23:16] <patrick_> !paste
[23:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[23:17] <CptAtom> guys, i have one question. i am using hardy heron beta right now...after every restart of my system, the ip settings for my eth0 are gone. they are still displayed correctly on the network manager GUI but i ll have to configure them completely new with "ifconfig" and "route"....any suggestion where i could fix that. i never encountered that problem before with ubuntu
[23:17] <Groudas> http://dpaste.com/hold/42640/   <----- can anyone help me?
[23:17] <Jowi> CptAtom, #ubuntu+1 for hardy
[23:17] <CptAtom> thanks
[23:17] <stefg> !hardy | CptAtom
[23:17] <ubotu> CptAtom: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[23:18] <Cope57> Linux is extremely customizable, but it seems many Windows users do not like change. I have seen so many "default" wallpapers and settings on XP it is just unbelievable.
[23:18] <tobberoth> Jowi: Awesome, just installing console-setup fixed the problem :) My virtual consoles font got ugly though ;)
[23:18] <Groudas> http://dpaste.com/hold/42640/   <----- can anyone help me?
[23:18] <kindofabuzz> Groudas: change the emulation dir to the right dir?
[23:18] <kindofabuzz> no idea how in that, but look around
[23:19] <Jowi> tobberoth, that I know nothing about. Had to import my swedish keyboard. Only azerty ones to be found in France unfourtunatley.
[23:19] <Cope57> ubotu is a spambot lol
[23:19] <Groudas> kindo: what do you mean?
[23:19] <tobberoth> Jowi: Oh i see... Well, I also have another problem, which I've gotten used to: My monitor doesn't like the 1024x768 resolution
[23:19] <stefg> !info console-terminus | tobberoth:
[23:19] <ubotu> tobberoth:: Package console-terminus does not exist in gutsy
[23:19] <Groudas> i installed zsnes via apt-get
[23:19] <R3h4B> anybody know anything about DHT?
[23:19] <tobberoth> it's a 1680x1050 22" HD flatscreen monitor from korea :P
[23:20] <kindofabuzz> Groudas: well the error says it points to so and so. evidentlly it's not there
[23:20] <Jowi> tobberoth, in CLI? define "doesn't like"
[23:20] <Jowi> tobberoth, ah
[23:20] <tobberoth> Jowi: It gets smudged... it's still easily readable, but hardly crisp
[23:20] <Cope57> tobberoth 1680x1050 kind of explains it.
[23:20] <kindofabuzz> Groudas: actuelly it says cannot create mcop dir, try running it as sudo then
[23:20] <Groudas> ummm..... ok thanks... let me see if anything is wrong
[23:20] <tobberoth> Cope57: Yeah, I've heard linux isn't up for it yet
[23:20] <soapee01> does anyone know how to make apt ignore a package when upgrading?  This mess was caused by libgpod2 thin liquid film and python-gpod
[23:20] <sarah____> does anyone run ircd on their ubuntu?
[23:21] <Cope57> 1680x1050 would be the default screen resolution
[23:21] <cocozzapirla> ciao a tutti
[23:21] <Groudas> kindo: same issue running as root
[23:21] <amenado> tobberoth-> dont expect aspect ratio to be same on lcd monitors to be same as in those wide screen tv monitors
[23:21] <Cope57> Actually Linux up to it, I do not know if Ubuntu like it though
[23:21] <tobberoth> Cope57: Yeah, in Win XP it looks amazing in 1680x1050, but I've never gotten it to work in linux
[23:21] <Alan_M> !ping
[23:21] <ubotu> ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore
[23:21] <Groudas> doesnt matter running as root or via sudo
[23:21] <venka1> hello, i cant boot into ubuntu without acpi=off but that is causing my computer to oveheat
[23:21] <venka1> any fix
[23:21] <kindofabuzz> Groudas: *shrug* try the znes forums
[23:21] <venka1> ?
[23:22] <Groudas> ilkindo: ok thanks the helo
[23:22] <Groudas> help
[23:22] <billy> im having trouble with my display, it looks like a malfunctioning inkjet printer
[23:22] <jwithee> Does apt or dpkg have a way to reset permissions for all files in the package?
[23:22] <amenado> venka1-> it would not boot if acpi=off ?
[23:22] <c-ron> venka1: see this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=476489
[23:22] <venka1> nono
[23:22] <venka1> if i do not use acpi=off
[23:22] <venka1> it does not boot
[23:23] <dniel> Where can I download the ubuntu that has the same installation of debian?
[23:23] <venka1> like it hangs at the ubuntu splash screen
[23:23] <dniel> console installation
[23:23] <insomninja> jwithee, maybe apt-get reinstal xyz
[23:23] <stefg> !alternate | dniel
[23:23] <ubotu> dniel: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[23:23] <RavenTrigun> I have a question about downloading something
[23:23] <insomninja> jwithee, reinstall that is of course
[23:24] <RavenTrigun> It says its for linux but its just a bunch of files in a folder
[23:24] <RavenTrigun> im asuming its not compiled
[23:24] <Jowi> tobberoth, I think you will have to set the native rez in grub but not using "vga=". I found a link the other day... need to search for it
[23:24] <RavenTrigun> so how would i compile it?
[23:24] <sarah____> does anyone run ircd on their ubuntu?
[23:24] <dniel> stefg: thanks!
[23:24] <Cope57> tobberoth check IM
[23:24] <billy> how do i take a screenshot?
[23:25] <c-ron> RavenTrigun: does the archive (i'm assuming .tgz) have a README?
[23:25] <Tu13es> bleh, I got my Mini booting from CD but it hangs booting ubuntu and starting the RAM test
[23:25] <amenado> billy xwd ?
[23:25] <RavenTrigun> I don't know and its in .zip format.
[23:25] <billy> can anyone tell me how to take a screenshot?
[23:25] <billy> oh
[23:25] <billy> uhmm wuts taht?
[23:25] <dniel> stefg: which is the link of alternate?
[23:25] <jwithee> insomninja: I didn't want to reinstall the package, because I have configured them, but I wanted to reset the permissions on all the files in the package
[23:25] <c-ron> RavenTrigun: what's the file?
[23:25] <billy> amenado: my display is acting really really wierd
[23:25] <RavenTrigun> Its a MMORPG called Eternal Lands
[23:26] <RavenTrigun> www.eternal-lands.com
[23:26] <amenado> billy i dont know the exact options, but i know its xwd is the tool you use
[23:26] <billy> k thanks
[23:26] <Zelta> !worksforme
[23:26] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[23:26] <Zelta> so THAT is the command to do that!
[23:27] <stefg> !mirrors | dniel
[23:27] <ubotu> dniel: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive - PLEASE use the !torrents to download Gutsy, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[23:27] <billy> if i show u a picture of wut my display is doing think u can help?
[23:27] <billy> anyone?
[23:27] <Cope57> try
[23:27] <sarah____> how can i upgrade to hardy?
[23:27] <dniel> stefg: what is the alternate link?
[23:27] <RavenTrigun> !upgrade
[23:27] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[23:27] <dniel> stefg: ahh ok! thaks!
[23:27] <insomninja> jwithee, then I don't think there's a simple way, since I don't think the permission setup is in a separate file from the other setup stuff like moving files etc
[23:28] <billy> amenado: do you know much about display problems?
[23:28] <insomninja> jwithee, if the configurations are in your home folder you could just make a backup
[23:28] <jwithee> insomninja: I was hoping the the .deb packages had install scripts that included changing file permsions
[23:29] <billy> http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b119/splatter951/Screenshot.png will someone look at that and tell me if they can help me fix it?
[23:29] <c-ron> RavenTrigun: have you extracted the zip file?
[23:29] <stefg> !software | RavenTrigun
[23:29] <ubotu> RavenTrigun: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[23:29] <RavenTrigun> Yes
[23:29] <RavenTrigun> No read me.
[23:29] <billy> anyone?
[23:30] <jodie> new to irc ing on freenode. I was asked ealier to include (pasting) the output of a file. Is this proper? Is there another way to do it?
[23:30] <Cope57> For one billy , You should download your updates in the top right corner, it might fix it.
[23:30] <billy> paste.ubuntu.org?
[23:30] <stefg> !paste | jodie
[23:30] <ubotu> jodie: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[23:30] <ader10> How can I get the "shadow" desktop session for freenx to work?
[23:30] <billy> cope57: the updates arent showing up
[23:30] <justin007827> hello, I followed the dirrections to get my Nvidea tv-out working by editing the xorg file. It worked fine, except, I am having overscan. Any ideas on how to fix, or where to look?
[23:30] <insomninja> jwithee, what kind of configuration is it you have done? personal preferences or serious change? what program?
[23:31] <justin007827> I can not see my task bar
[23:31] <c-ron> RavenTrigun: the install instructions for that game on linux are on the website: http://www.eternal-lands.com/page/download.php
[23:31] <dniel> What is the differen between debian and ubuntu alternate?
[23:31] <Cope57> billy , check the other desktop
[23:31] <dniel> its package?
[23:31] <c-ron> RavenTrigun: under To play on Linux:
[23:31] <ChaosTheory> I can't get flash to work. :(
[23:31] <dniel> its packages?
[23:31] <billy> cope57 nope there's nothing there
[23:31] <tobberoth> How do I access an NTFS partition from CLI? I'm on 7.10 and I think I have the 3G thingy aswell
[23:31] <billy> ill just go to the update manager
[23:31] <jodie> thanks I'll start there
[23:32] <Adman65> Hey
[23:32] <ader10> How can I get the "shadow" desktop session for freenx to work?
[23:32] <billy> cope57: the update manager says my system is up to date
[23:32] <Adman65> how do i configure proxy?
[23:32] <Adman65> i need all internet connection requests to go to another computer
[23:32] <nickweb> hey folks, is there a quick and easy way to reinstall ubuntu from fresh? I currently have it dual booting with xp, and want to keep xp, but reinstall ubuntu from scratch..
[23:33] <mactaylor> is jfs more fast than EXT3????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/
[23:33] <c-ron> nickweb: use the LiveCD
[23:33] <jwithee> well the truth is. I am an idiot. I was trying to change the home directories so no one has rights except owner.  I ran "chmod go= -R .*' to get all the local files. As root :(.  When did this it traversed back to /var /sbin /boot and /sys.  I was able to fix /boot /sbin /sys, but var is a mess.
[23:33] <phixxor> hey, I have a slow computer - what can I do to decrease my cpu usage so my computer isn't slow when using firefox
[23:33] <nickweb> c-ron:  will that wipe all the partitions, inc. home?
[23:33] <justin007827> also, nvtv is not working.
[23:33] <jwithee> I have all the packages cached, and I was hoping to be able to run a script that would fix all the permissions.
[23:33] <archangelpetro> has anyone here installed an Nvidia GeForce 8400 GS?
[23:34] <stefg> phixxor: so what do you have (cpu/ram) ?
[23:34] <justin007827> i just did archangelpetro
[23:34] <Cope57> billy in the terminal try this
[23:34] <Cope57> sudo fc-cache -f -v
[23:34] <Draggin> !packages
[23:34] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords or regex>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[23:34] <Cope57> It will reconfigure your fonts cache
[23:34] <phixxor> stefg: 733MHz cpu, can't remember how much ram
[23:34] <xs142> Umm, I just managed to lock myself out of the ability to even change the time, what to do?
[23:34] <Draggin> !Equivalents
[23:34] <ubotu> A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[23:34] <c-ron> nickweb: not unless you want it to... which you probably don't! select manual partitioning when you run the installer
[23:34] <unop> xs142, sudo not working?
[23:35] <jwithee> insomninja: well the truth is. I am an idiot. I was trying to change the home directories so no one has rights except owner.  I ran "chmod go= -R .*' to get all the local files. As root :(.  When did this it traversed back to /var /sbin /boot and /sys.  I was able to fix /boot /sbin /sys, but var is a mess.
[23:35] <stefg> phixxor: ram might be the bottleneck.... run free -m
[23:35] <justin007827> ubotu: do you know anything about fixing overscan issues with nvidia tv out function?
[23:35] <xs142> unop: Umm... Maybe...?
[23:35] <jwithee> Iinsomninja: have all the packages cached, and I was hoping to be able to run a script that would fix all the permissions.
[23:35] <nickweb> c-ron:  yeah, I want EVERYTHING wiped. as in just installing ubuntu for the first time :D
[23:35] <billy> didn't work
[23:35] <ader10> How can I get the "shadow" desktop session for freenx to work?
[23:35] <nickweb> right
[23:35] <nickweb> im off to destroy a couple of partitions :D
[23:36] <phixxor> stefg: total: 503, used: 432: free: 71
[23:36] <c-ron> nickweb: choose manual so you dont wipe xp???
[23:36] <keit1> file-roller consistently keeps adding "(2)" as a suffix to all unzipped folder that were group selected then extracted - how can I stop this????
[23:36] <Positronic> Hello all, my version of Ubuntu freezes when suspended? Anyone know the solution for that?
[23:36] <c-ron> hehe
[23:36] <unop> xs142, you can only change the system's date/time if you are a superuser .. haw are you trying to change the date?
[23:36] <jwithee> insomninja: thanks for your help. I am going to see what I can do.
[23:36] <insomninja> jwithee, hmm that is a tricky one indeed, but I would guess that the problem would go beyond packages
[23:36] <keit1> Positronic: same here.  suspend just _does_not_work_ for me
[23:36] <Cope57> Positronic Linux does not like suspend or hibernate
[23:36] <venka1> hello, iam booting ubuntu with acpi=off irqpoll pnpbios=off are these arg very bad to use or it is not going to hurt much?
[23:37] <keit1> Positronic: presume hibernate is the same
[23:37] <insomninja> jwithee, good luck, but I personally think a backup and reinstall is your best option
[23:37] <dimitree> Where is the default install location of Java Dev Kit installed from repo ?
[23:37] <ader10> How can I get the "shadow" desktop session for freenx to work?
[23:37] <xs142> unop: Rightclicking the clock and pressing 'adjust'? Point of the matter however is that I kinda lost all other administrative priviledges, like making users, and i want'em back..
[23:37] <stefg> phixxor: you might want to look at epiphany or opera even... firefox2 is a hog, but 512 MB Ram is ok. avoid to many extensions
[23:37] <Positronic> Cope57, I was beginning to think so...
[23:37] <c-ron> venka1: works fine for many
[23:37] <Positronic> keit1, at least im not the only one
[23:37] <venka1> c-ron, ok
[23:37] <Positronic> ;P
[23:37] <venka1> c-ron, are you using these too ?
[23:37] <keit1> Positronic: no you most certainly are not! ;)
[23:37] <keit1> Positronic: log-off or shutdwon are the only 2 options at the mo
[23:37] <billy> cope57: that didn't work
[23:38] <Draggin> stefg - sorry to bug you again, but I don't seem to find the information I'm looking for on any of those pages either - I want to know how to make sure that certain applications are available for certain users...
[23:38] <c-ron> venka1: i only use acpi=off, but if that's causing problems, you can add other parameters
[23:38] <billy> its still doing it some
[23:38] <streak> Hello
[23:38] <billy> wait now it stopped after a watched a video?
[23:38] <mactaylor> is jfs more fast than ext3?
[23:38] <venka1> c-ron: doesn't your computer heat up ?
[23:38] <venka1> with just acpi
[23:38] <ader10> How can I get the "shadow" desktop session for freenx to work?
[23:38] <phixxor> stefg: alright, I'll check those out -- but the main problem is whenever I'm on youtube, the cpu goes to 100%. I'm listening to last.fm radio right now and I'm already at around 30%
[23:38] <keit1> this is the second time a system has started doing this with file-roller so surely someone else must have experienced it too
[23:38] <Cope57> billy: does it do that only in the browser or all applications?
[23:38] <stefg> Draggin: only in terms of menu entries, or do you want to have strict control over who can run which app ?
[23:38] <Positronic> keit1, when linux is operating it seems that my laptop also builds up an excessive amount of heat.... it bothers me
[23:38] <phixxor> stefg: is there anything I can do about that?
[23:39] <stefg> phixxor: that's flash ....
[23:39] <c-ron> venka1: nope works fine...
[23:39] <billy> cope57: it does it in pidgin and firefox so far
[23:39] <jacob_> for ubuntu fans: www.system76.com
[23:39] <Draggin> stefg - menu entries for now - I think I'll worry about restricting the usage later, but if you have a link for a howto on that as well, I'd appreciate it
[23:39] <keit1> Positronic: you might wanna check that you have disabled that option regarding HDD and spin-ups, though doubt that would generate any serious heat
[23:40] <c-ron> venka1: you also could try the noacpi parameter.. go with whatever works for your system
[23:40] <billy> cope57: its not doing it now for some reason tho
[23:40] <ChaosTheory> I can't get Flash to work. =(
[23:40] <billy> how do i get firefox to play videos?
[23:40] <phixxor> stefg: so there's nothing I can do about it but use a newer computer?
[23:40] <Cope57> billy: what I did probably fixed it, just took a little time
[23:40] <stefg> Draggi: just right click on 'Apllications' choose 'edit menu' and make them suite your needs
[23:40] <phixxor> billy: flash videos?
[23:41] <Positronic> yeah the heat generated is near the back of my laptop I dont think that is where the HDD is located
[23:41] <Cope57> ChaosTheory is having trouble w/flash
[23:41] <billy> phixxor: yea
[23:41] <Positronic> keit1,  yeah the heat generated is near the back of my laptop I dont think that is where the HDD is located
[23:41] <keit1> Positronic: most likely the cpu
[23:41] <Cope57> billy had font issues
[23:41] <billy> i got gnash but its not working
[23:41] <xs142> upon so I figured I should get in as root and set my rights back ?
[23:41] <sphinxx> hey nikrud you here?
[23:41] <keit1> billy: gnash wasn't too hot for flv playback last time i checked
[23:41] <ader10> How can I get the "shadow" desktop session for freenx to work?
[23:41] <Cope57> gnash is not that great
[23:41] <phixxor> billy: there's a firefox plugin you have to get... libflash-mozplugin
[23:42] <unop> xs142, what does this command return? id
[23:42] <Draggin> stefg - It's really that simple?  IOW, log in with the relevant user account and customise the menu for that user?
[23:42] <phixxor> billy: reinstall it if you already have it, that's what I had to do once
[23:42] <billy> phixxor: where do i find that? package manager?
[23:42] <nikrud> sphinxx at work, be around in a couple hours
[23:42] <sphinxx> oh ok
[23:42] <keit1> anyone think that flashplayer9 isn't that great either. need's some serious optimisation!
[23:42] <stefg> phixxor: adobe's flash is the problem... but all free implementations don't work for youtube. it might be related to sound output
[23:42] <sphinxx> i just had a question about /boot
[23:42] <phixxor> billy: sudo apt-get install libflash-mozplugin
[23:42] <billy> youtube works but otherones dont
[23:43] <Pelican> msg bot invite #what.cd conv3rg3nc3
[23:43] <keit1> stefg: abobe need to stop messing about and open up their platform
[23:43] <stefg> Draggin: Ubuntu is user friendly! :-) It's just picky about who are its friends :-)
[23:43] <sphinxx> if theres no separate /boot partition, if the boot loader got corrupted somehow, from either my linux or windows partitions, would i be screwed?
[23:43] <Pelican> goddamnit
[23:43] <phixxor> stefg: ah. I had no idea
[23:43] <ader10> How can I get the "shadow" desktop session for freenx to work?
[23:43] <Draggin> stefg - haha :) I'm trying hard to be its friend though :)
[23:43] <arthur37854> i have a question about vlc? my samsung phone records video into .3g2 format i can get vlc to play the video with out sound i get this msg main error: no suitable decoder module for fourcc `mp4a'. VLC probably does not support this sound or video format.
[23:43] <billy> brb
[23:43] <ricanelite> is Hardy going to work with Compiz?
[23:43] <Pelican> of course
[23:44] <justin007827> i ran nvidia setting from the comand prompt, but I cant find the overscan settings. Can anyone help me?
[23:44] <keit1> ricanelite: gutsy works with compiz!
[23:44] <Pelican> does anyone know anything about a better bluetooth stack?
[23:44] <xs142> upon: what command?
[23:44] <xs142> id?
[23:44] <c-ron> sphinxx: see http://www.sorgonet.com/linux/grubrestore/
[23:44] <phixxor> sphinxx: you would still be able to boot from the livecd and fix stuff up, or at least recover some files
[23:44] <ricanelite> yeah but I when hardy comes out later in the month
[23:44] <ricanelite> Im just wondering if it will work
[23:44] <keit1> ricanelite: yes
[23:44] <Pelican> like one that works with samsung phones?
[23:44] <ricanelite> okay
[23:44] <mcquaid> ricanelite, it works now with gutsy
[23:44] <unop> xs142, open up a terminal and type this out.  id<enter>
[23:44] <keit1> ricanelite: depending on *your* card
[23:45] <rumplesmigskin> Hi. I'm currently using the radeonfb driver, and wondering if there's a nice way to start a second X server on a different TTY using the fglrx driver.
[23:45] <ricanelite> yeah i have compiz working perfect
[23:45] <keit1> ricanelite: then it will be fine
[23:45] <ricanelite> just was wondering if it was going to work in the new OS
[23:45] <ricanelite> okay
[23:45] <xs142> upon, uid=1000(xs142) gid=1000(xs142) groups=20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(scanner),112(netdev),113(lpadmin),115(powerdev),1000(xs142)
[23:45] <mcquaid> so why would you think it wouldn't work with hardy?
[23:45] <ricanelite> is the beta stable?
[23:45] <ricanelite> dont know
[23:45] <ricanelite> cause i have bad luck with linux
[23:45] <sphinxx> phixx, thanks
[23:45] <c-ron> sphinxx: also see http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/
[23:45] <keit1> ricanelite: but it already does. so it's fairly safe to say that the _next_release_on_ will have it working too?! :)
[23:46] <Cope57> beta is basically beta-testing
[23:46] <ChaosTheory> I have installed flash but when I try to view a video it asks "Install suitable codec?"
[23:46] <keit1> ricanelite: haven't tried the beta
[23:46] <ChaosTheory> T_T
[23:46] <Pelican> flash and ubuntu suck
[23:46] <ricanelite> ok
[23:46] <UnSuNgLoSeR> XiXaQ am back
[23:46] <Cope57> usable but not stable
[23:46] <UnSuNgLoSeR> with a long list of problems
[23:46] <keit1> ricanelite: it is released on APril 23~
[23:46] <Cope57> Flash is great
[23:46] <ricanelite> yeah i kno
[23:46] <ricanelite> i know cant wait
[23:46] <ChaosTheory> Cope57: Do you know how to fix it? =P
[23:46] <keit1> ricanelite: stable LTS
[23:46] <archangelpetro> justin007827,  hey, how did yo udo it? did you compile it using the NVIDIA binary? or did u use ubuntu packages??
[23:46] <mcquaid> flash is the scum of the internet
[23:46] <keit1> ricanelite: same here ;)
[23:47] <ChaosTheory> Cope57: I know it's easier said than done. =D
[23:47] <phixxor> ChaosTheory: are you using firefox? did you install the mozplugin
[23:47] <ChaosTheory> Yes, I'm using Firefox.
[23:47] <jchase> FF3?
[23:47] <mcquaid> ChaosTheory, just install flash-nonfree
[23:47] <sphinxx> hey guys i just set up dual boot for ubuntu/winxp on my laptop and now i want to do it on my desktop, im curious how to set up the partitions
[23:47] <ricanelite> the only issue i have a problem is with i have a account at mlb.tv
[23:47] <ricanelite> but omg the videos wont play
[23:47] <mcquaid> you should be fine
[23:47] <sphinxx> ill have like 30-40gb available for linux
[23:47] <unop> xs142, ok, try this command out.  sudo usermod -G admin $USER
[23:47] <ricanelite> because i think the site is using that Microsoft Silver Light
[23:47] <keit1> ChaosTheory:  did you restart FF?
[23:47] <ChaosTheory> phixxor: I just installed it.
[23:47] <unop> xs142, and then log out and log back in
[23:47] <sphinxx> like i didnt do a /home on my laptop because i had so little space
[23:47] <phixxor> ChaosTheory: mmm, sucks, idk what to do then
[23:48] <sphinxx> but im curious as to the benefits of creating separate partitions for /tmp and such
[23:48] <UnSuNgLoSeR> i tried to install kppp but it wont widout internet
[23:48] <Adman65> anyone gimme a hand setting up a sytem wide proxy?
[23:48] <Cope57> ChaosTheory check PM
[23:48] <c-ron> sphinxx: have just one physical harddrive?
[23:48] <keit1> ChaosTheory:  did you dl the tar from adboe.com then untar and run the installer in your terminal?
[23:48] <ChaosTheory> Huzzah.
[23:48] <UnSuNgLoSeR> and connecting to the inet wid ubuntu is my problem in the first place!
[23:48] <Draggin> stefg - Last time I'll bug you - if I did become interested in restricting users to use certain applications, where could I have a look to learn how to achieve that?
[23:48] <keit1> ChaosTheory:  restart work?
[23:48] <Pelican> so anyone know about a not lame bluetooth stack?
[23:48] <UnSuNgLoSeR> i installed ubuntu from the live CD!
[23:48] <ChaosTheory> Nope. =D
[23:48] <ChaosTheory> Didn't work. Installed mozplugin.
[23:48] <mcquaid> you don't need to restart for flash, well maybe the browser
[23:49] <mcquaid> install this http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/flashplugin-nonfree
[23:49] <ChaosTheory> keit1: One second.
[23:49] <Positronic> keit1, did you just comment out ACPI_SLEEP to remove suspend to RAM?
[23:49] <mcquaid> check about:plugins to see if it's there
[23:49] <armory555> dose any one kno how to install system sound themes?
[23:49] <xs142> upon, no luck
[23:49] <keit1> Positronic: no
[23:49] <phixxor> sphinxx: definitely create a separate one for /home -- other specialized partitions are mostly useful for servers where you don't want things like /var becoming too big by accident and taking over
[23:49] <Positronic> keit1, not recommended or just didnt do it?
[23:49] <unop> sphinxx, performance. usually when you want a different set of mount options for different parts of the filesystem, defragmentation, etc, etc
[23:50] <billy> can anyone help with my video playing problems?
[23:50] <stefg> Draggin: afaik that would involve creating groups and make certain files only executable by these groups
[23:50] <keit1> Positronic: just didn't do it
[23:50] <ChaosTheory> keit1: Okay, I have the tar.gz. What do I do now?
[23:50] <danny> How can I share my media directories and drives on Ubuntu so I could access them on my Xbox360? In windows I would use media player but here???
[23:50] <stefg> !permissions | Draggin
[23:50] <ubotu> Draggin: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[23:50] <billy> specifically flash videos in firefox
[23:50] <Cope57> ChaosTheory you using 64bit
[23:50] <phixxor> billy: didn't work?
[23:50] <billy> nope
[23:50] <unop> !samba | danny
[23:50] <ubotu> danny: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[23:50] <phixxor> :(
[23:50] <Draggin> stefg - thanks, I thought that might be the case.  Thanks again for the help.
[23:50] <keit1> ChaosTheory: if you already got flash working then no need
[23:50] <ChaosTheory> Cope57: No.
[23:50] <phixxor> !flash
[23:50] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[23:50] <ChaosTheory> keit1: I don't have Flash working. =(
[23:50] <billy> phixxor: wut other options do i have?
[23:50] <sarah____> !info update
[23:50] <ubotu> Package update does not exist in gutsy
[23:50] <billy> oh okay
[23:50] <armory555> gnash sucks
[23:50] <sarah____> can i update to hardy haron with wireless?
[23:50] <UnSuNgLoSeR> need help!
[23:50] <billy> gnash does suck
[23:50] <phixxor> yeah
[23:51] <phixxor> youtube doesn't work with gnash I've heard
[23:51] <danny> ubotu: thanks
[23:51] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[23:51] <mcquaid> flash-nonfree sucks just a little less
[23:51] <Chatiel> nadie habla español?
[23:51] <keit1> ChaosTheory: otherwise unzip the tar.gz then drag the installer file into the terminal and follow instructions
[23:51] <mcquaid> still no xv hardware scaling
[23:51] <armory555> yea just go to synaptic and type flash scroll down and get the flash non free thing lol
[23:51] <Chatiel> HOLAAAA!
[23:51] <keit1> ChaosTheory: should work perfectly
[23:51] <stefg> !es | Chatiel
[23:51] <ubotu> Chatiel: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[23:51] <orudie> how can i remove a user ?
[23:51] <Chatiel> ok, muchas gracias Stefg
[23:52] <ChaosTheory> keit1: Drag it into the terminal?
[23:52] <sarah____> can i update to hardy haron with wireless?
[23:52] <Kaja> sarah____, sure
[23:52] <Cope57> ChaosTheory http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#Browser_Plug-ins
[23:52] <keit1> ChaosTheory: the installer file inside the folder
[23:52] <sarah____> Kaja really?
[23:52] <cwesterburg> has anyone had success with installing Hardy
[23:52] <billy> im reinstalling the flash nonfree cuz i had it but it doesn't work for some reason..
[23:52] <cwesterburg> Heron on a new MacBook Pro?
[23:52] <warriorforgod> cwesterburg: I have
[23:52] <armory555> uh yea lol if u have internet the it should do it lol but i think hardy didnt come out yet ui thought the beta just did lol
[23:52] <stond> Can some one please help me with a problem I am having with Kaffine I am trrying to watch a video but it keeps popping up an window saying Audio output unavailable. Device is busy. () I have Kaffine 0.8.6 and I never had this problem before can someone please help
[23:52] <orudie> is the new ubuntu out ?
[23:52] <xs142> unop, no luck
[23:52] <ChaosTheory> keit1: Yes, I see it, but nothing appears to happen when I drag it into the terminal. . .
[23:52] <UnSuNgLoSeR> anyone willing to help me out?
[23:52] <sarah____> cwesterburg: macbook air :) is nicer
[23:52] <Kaja> sarah____, yeah really.
[23:53] <sarah____> Kaja how long will it take?
[23:53] <keit1> ChaosTheory: its called -- "flashplayer-installer"
[23:53] <unop> xs142, what does id report now?
[23:53] <stefg> stond: #kubuntu
[23:54] <ChaosTheory> keit1: Yes, that is what I'm trying to "drag. . ."
[23:54] <keit1> ChaosTheory: press enter
[23:54] <armory555> dose any kno sum useful stuff lol like things i mabye need or mabye of use lol
[23:54] <xs142> unop uid=1000(xs142) gid=1000(xs142) groups=20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(scanner),112(netdev),113(lpadmin),115(powerdev),1000(xs142)
[23:54] <ChaosTheory> keit1: Maybe I'm dragging it incorrectly.
[23:54] <urthmover> ok I'm really cwesterburg
[23:54] <urthmover> ok
[23:54] <keit1> ChaosTheory: did you unzip it first?
[23:54] <UnSuNgLoSeR> hello!
[23:54] <ChaosTheory> keit1: Should I extract it somewhere first?
[23:54] <UnSuNgLoSeR> Laughs!
[23:54] <urthmover> so yes hardy heron works great on a macbook pro....including wifi and all the snazzy graphics right?
[23:54] <keit1> ChaosTheory: yes
[23:55] <Cope57> UnSuNgLoSeR what type of connection do you have?
[23:55] <Kaja> sarah____, depends on your connection speed. The update-manager gives a nice estimation.
[23:55] <UnSuNgLoSeR> 3G
[23:55] <UnSuNgLoSeR> UTMS
[23:55] <sarah____> thanks
[23:55] <sarah____> Kaja are you on hardy?
[23:55] <Kaja> sarah____, yeah.
[23:55] <keit1> ChaosTheory: extract, hit alt+f2, type gnome-terminal, drag installer, hit  enter, follow instructions
[23:55] <sarah____> how do you like it?
[23:55] <ChaosTheory> keit1: Okay, it says the installation is complete. . .
[23:55] <keit1> restart firefox
[23:55] <unop> xs142, ok, that failed somehow.. try this.  sudo useradd -G admin $USER
[23:55] <Kaja> sarah____, best version of Ubuntu so far.
[23:56] <keit1> ChaosTheory: ^^
[23:56] <billy> where can i dl the 32 bit version of firefox?
[23:56]  * keit1 can't wait for hardy!!!!! w00t
[23:56] <xs142> unop didn't report anything wrong atleast...
[23:56] <Cope57> billy, why?
[23:56] <stefg> sarah____: you might want to head for #ubuntu-offtopic for socal chatter, and to #ubuntu+1 for hardy support/questions
[23:56] <keit1> ChaosTheory: how did you get on?
[23:56] <ChaosTheory> keit1: I'm on Youtube. It's asking me "Search for a suitable codec?"
[23:56] <billy> cope57: so i can use flash
[23:56] <Jordan_U> urthmover, What model macbook pro?
[23:56] <ChaosTheory> keit1: get on?
[23:56] <mouseboyx> can you monitor all trafic on a network, not just on a single machine?
[23:56] <arthur37854> i have a question about vlc? my samsung phone records video into .3g2 format i can get vlc to play the video with out sound i get this msg main error: no suitable decoder module for fourcc `mp4a'. VLC probably does not support this sound or video format. is there some codecs i need to download or what?
[23:56] <keit1> did you clear your cache and restart firefox?
[23:57] <UnSuNgLoSeR> Cope57 am around
[23:57] <benanzo> can rsync store updated files in a separate directory instead of overwriting the orig or backing it up?  It would be useful for incrementals
[23:57] <Cope57> billy I have flash w/64bit browser
[23:57] <sarah____> can i update my kernel without getting hardy Kaja?
[23:57] <billy> keit1: no lol
[23:57] <sarah____> im on gusty
[23:57] <keit1> ChaosTheory: download managers and all
[23:57] <ChaosTheory> keit1: Sorry, I don't understand.
[23:57] <unop> xs142, ok, once you have run that command. what does this report?  grep -i admin /etc/group
[23:57] <Jordan_U> sarah____, Why do you want to?
[23:57] <keit1> ChaosTheory: open firefox
[23:57] <billy> keit1: i just did that now im gonna see if it works
[23:57] <urthmover> sorry I got distracted ... I have a penryn 2.6
[23:58] <keit1> ChaosTheory: hit ctrl+shift+del to clear your cache (press enter at prompt)
[23:58] <urthmover> where do I find the model per say?
[23:58] <xs142> unop lpadmin:x:113:xs142
[23:58] <ChaosTheory> keit1: Okay, done.
[23:58] <xs142> admin:x:117:root
[23:58] <billy> keit1: still not working.. what can i do?
[23:58] <keit1> ChaosTheory: close firefox (plus any other window's like download managers)
[23:58] <keit1> ChaosTheory: restart firefox
[23:58] <ampex2> does hardy have dmraid support?
[23:58] <UnSuNgLoSeR> okay Cope57 i have a wireless modem which goes by the name huawei ETS2551
[23:58] <Cope57> thankslooking now
[23:58] <keit1> ChaosTheory: in the address bar type about:plugins
[23:58] <ChaosTheory> keit1: Okay, done.
[23:59] <Jordan_U> urthmover, Is it the Core Duo, Core 2 Duo etc? ( and please respond with my nick or I may miss it )
[23:59] <ChaosTheory> keit1: Okay, then?
[23:59] <billy> keit1: how do i make the flash work in firefox?
[23:59] <UnSuNgLoSeR> ubuntu device manager shows that the device has been detected and is ready to use
[23:59] <Cope57> billy w/64bit?
[23:59] <UnSuNgLoSeR> but when i try to connect through it i get nuffin
[23:59] <sarah____> i want the benefits of a updated kernel
[23:59] <urthmover> core 2 duo
[23:59] <unop> xs142, that's all? i dont think you ran the command before that ..
[23:59] <billy> cope57: yea
[23:59] <keit1> ChaosTheory: does it not say flash anywhere in that window?
[23:59] <urthmover> jordan_U core 2 duo
[23:59] <billy> cope57: amd64