[00:46] <emgent> uhm
[00:46] <emgent> launchpad bugs icon dont work
[00:47] <emgent> (in edge)
[01:04] <kiko> emgent, probably the librarian giving you a headache
[01:04] <kiko> reload the image, should work fine
[01:06] <emgent> sale problem, but persist only in edge
[01:07] <emgent> s/sale/same/
[01:59] <LaserJock> so, is there a way to see all the branches I've committed to on LP?
[02:00] <LaserJock> somehow I don't have anything under "Related Branches" and I would have thought there was something
[02:01] <spiv> LaserJock: worth filing a feature request/bug for that, I think.
[02:01] <spiv> LaserJock: the linking of committer ID and LP user is fairly new.
[02:01] <LaserJock> I can't even remember some the branches/projects I've committed to
[02:02] <LaserJock> so "Related Branches" are just branches I own?
[02:05] <spiv> Yeah, I think so.
[02:05] <spiv> thumper: ^
[02:06] <thumper> LaserJock: committed to? not yet
[02:06] <LaserJock> I just wondered what was actually shown
[02:06] <thumper> LaserJock: however branches that are yours or you registered are under https://code.launchpad.net/people/+me
[02:07] <thumper> LaserJock: on the main view it is branches you have registered, branches you own, and branches you are subscribed to
[02:07] <LaserJock> hmm, I guess I just thought that I would have had something
[02:15] <Hobbsee> LaserJock: ah, thanks, please file that for me too :)
[02:38] <laszlok> how come when I go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/186273 I get the very unexplainative "Sorry, you don't have permission to access this page." message?
[02:39] <mwhudson> it's a private bug
[02:39] <mwhudson> maybe it describes a security problem
[02:39] <LaserJock> probably because it contains a crash report
[02:39] <LaserJock> which may contain private info
[02:40] <laszlok> yeah i was thinking security, although it would be nice if the error page said that
[02:40] <RAOF> And the apport retracer has either not yet removed it, or barfed while retracing.
[02:43] <laszlok> well one of my bugs got marked as a dup of this one, and launchpad just removes the hyperlink and doesn't explain that its private or anything
[03:30] <poolie> is it a known bug that people's pgp signatures are being turned into bug attachments?
[03:31] <mwhudson> yes
[03:39] <lifeless> _lol_
[03:41] <poolie> i would have thought they'd be distinguished at the mime level but mabye not
[03:46] <mwhudson> they are supposed to be; i don't think it's happening to everyone
[05:01] <samiam> I'
[05:01] <samiam> I'm currently having an issue getting connected to launchpad
[05:01] <samiam> anyone else seeing the problem
[05:02] <stdin> on edge, yes
[05:02] <stdin> normal lp.net works
[05:02] <samiam> yes stdin
[05:03] <spiv> It's working ok for me.
[05:03] <calc> its back now (if you are talking about b.e.l.n)
[05:03] <spiv> (both normal and edge)
[05:03] <samiam> back up now... thanks
[05:04] <stdin> just a little hiccup
[05:04] <samiam> :-)
[08:14] <AnAnt> I think there's a bug in launchpad , in the PPA page, some UTF characters are not displayed, but instead their transliteration is displayed
[08:18] <cprov> AnAnt: can you confirm if it's the same issue reported in bug 207625 ?
[08:18] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 207625 in soyuz "Unicode characters improperly displayed in PPA changelog" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/207625
[08:21] <AnAnt> yes, that is the problem I got, my arabic name (written in UTF) that's in changelog isn't displayed properly
[08:21] <AnAnt> instead a latin transliteration of each letter is displayed
[08:57] <AnAnt> cprov: thanks
[09:53] <carlos> morning
[09:55] <directhex|bsp> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13043550/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-amd64.mono_1.9%2Bdfsg-1~dhx2_CHROOTWAIT.txt.gz - so... why is the chroot trying to pull in my PPA (which is empty, since this is my first package), and how can i stop it from doing so, so the packages actually build, so there's things to pull in from my ppa?
[09:55] <directhex|bsp> hurrah for circular issues
[09:57] <cprov> directhex|bsp: bug 196782, wait 20 minutes and retry the build
[09:57] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 196782 in soyuz "First build in a new PPA fails" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/196782
[09:58] <directhex|bsp> cprov, okay then. cheers
[09:59] <directhex|bsp> cprov, worth mentioning on https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart ?
[09:59] <cprov> directhex|bsp: not really, it's not a feature, it's a bug ;)
[10:00] <cprov> which will get fixed, eventually.
[10:02] <thekorn> hi, I've got two questions: everybody can use edge.launchpad.net, not only members of lp-beta-testers, is this correct?
[10:04] <thekorn> and second one: every user can login into edge and the logindata (password/email) is the same, also correct?
[10:15] <jmehdi> How long does it take for a mailing list to be configure?
[10:22] <directhex|bsp> cprov, so, erm, how do i force the package to rebuild? dput it again?
[10:24] <cprov> directhex|bsp: no, there is a  "retry" link/action/yellow-warning in the build page
[10:25] <directhex|bsp> aha, so there is
[10:26] <cprov> directhex|bsp: I wonder why everyone misses it the first time.
[10:27] <directhex|bsp> cprov, because they click the build record directly from the "view build logs" page, so never see the page with the retry link on it
[10:28] <cprov> directhex|bsp: yes, that's one of the reasons.
[10:28] <directhex|bsp> cprov, you asked, i answered!
[10:29] <cprov> directhex|bsp: :)
[10:30] <directhex|bsp> this PPA thing may well be rather handy. doing things by hand in vmware was always a time sink
[10:32] <directhex|bsp> hurrah. "Status:  	 Currently building "
[10:32] <cprov> directhex|bsp: true, it becomes even more useful in the medium/long term, storage/conformity/availability/history/many-users/etc
[10:34] <directhex|bsp> cprov, well, some of those factors are negated by bug 125103. but certainly it should save me some fuss as time goes by
[10:34] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 125103 in soyuz "ppa archives are not signed" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125103 - Assigned to Celso Providelo (cprov)
[10:35] <AnAnt> Hello, when using bzr, can't I checkout just a single folder instead of the whole branch ?
[10:35] <directhex|bsp> i'll nick the mirror&sign script from the mythbuntu lot
[10:36] <cprov> directhex|bsp: yes, I know :( but you can always, sync & sign your own PPA
[10:37] <directhex|bsp> cprov, i'm not complaining. i'd rather mirror it - people expect my mirror to be in a particular place
[10:38] <directhex|bsp> cprov, actually, what's the best way to force-feed to someone that a mirror has changed? if i put an http redirect on Packages.gz to a non-existent file called mirror-has-changed-see-website-for-details, would they see that sneakily embedded message when trying to search for package updates?
[10:38] <directhex|bsp> i've wondered about the question of how to "cleanly" alert users of a mirror that it's shutting down for a while
[10:39] <cprov> directhex|bsp: no :) if it's tracked in LP it will be presented as "failing"
[10:40] <directhex|bsp> Status:  	 Successfully built 
[10:40] <cprov> directhex|bsp: dunno, if we have such feature.
[11:11] <ubotu> New bug: #210604 in launchpad-bazaar ""Related Branches" should show branches I've commited to" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/210604
[11:19] <ubotu> New bug: #210689 in launchpad "It should be possible to allocate more than one branch to a release series" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/210689
[12:31] <ubotu> New bug: #210761 in launchpad "password-reset e-mails look too generic" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/210761
[12:52] <Hobbsee> oh, way cool!
[12:52] <Hobbsee> a bug that i was going to report from sevilla in relation to the normal archive got fixed for ppa.  Thanks guys!
[13:01] <ubotu> New bug: #210571 in malone "attachments listing in +text interface is wonky" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/210571
[13:07] <ccm> hi there
[13:08] <ccm> i just came to the question if there are spaces on launchpad for using it as an organisation tracker
[13:08] <ccm> so more a trouble ticket system for locos e.g.
[13:08] <geser> does LP support DSA2 keys already? I tried to add my new DSA2 key to my profile and get OOPS-823EB72 when I try to validate it
[13:10] <ubotu> New bug: #210772 in soyuz/1.2 "An estimated build duration is needed in order to estimate build job start times" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/210772
[13:31] <ubotu> New bug: #210778 in launchpad "Can't validate my DSA2 key (OOPS-823EB73)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/210778
[13:34] <timlinux> hi
[13:34] <timlinux> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13046441/buildlog_ubuntu-feisty-i386.libopenmodeller_0.5.3-5_CHROOTWAIT.txt.gz <-- can anyone tell me if there is a problem on the build server? I dont usually get this error
[13:36] <ubotu> New bug: #210781 in soyuz "In order to estimate build job start times new build jobs need to have an estimated duration set for them" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/210781
[13:39] <cprov> timlinux: if it's the first publication for feisty in your PPA, it's bug 196782, again :(
[13:39] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 196782 in soyuz "First build in a new PPA fails" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/196782
[13:40] <timlinux> cprov: yes its the first time we try to publish to our team archive - previously I published ot my persoanal PPA (it its not too redundant to say that?)
[13:41] <timlinux> cprov: ok thank I read the bug report and we will resubmit
[13:41] <cprov> timlinux: right, not worries, wait 20 and retry the build (use the link in the build page)
[13:42] <timlinux> 20 = 20 mins / s / hours ?
[13:42] <cprov> 20 minutes
[13:44] <timlinux> cprov: ok thank!
[13:44] <timlinux> er thanks
[13:47] <Hobbsee> any eta on that bug being fixed?
[14:03] <directhex|bsp> aha, that's why my build fails. aren't -dev packages meant to Depend: on the lib itself, so linking doesn't fail horribly?
[14:11] <ubotu> New bug: #210796 in launchpad "Mirror prober may call a deferred twice for mirrors that redirect" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/210796
[14:30] <Adri2000> why are .po files in https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/tasks/+imports still not accepted? I see a bug report saying the package doesn't create a .pot file, but couldn't these .po files be accepted anyway so that they are at least included in the langpacks?
[14:42] <directhex|bsp> not well-formed (invalid token) at line 11, column 93, byte 680 at /usr/lib/perl5/XML/Parser.pm line 187
[14:42] <directhex|bsp> that's not a good thing to see in a build log
[15:45] <ubotu> New bug: #210821 in launchpad "Invalid project appearing in tracker list" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/210821
[15:53] <popey> :( just got an oops in response to mrevells mail trying to use https://edge.launchpad.net/~alanpope/+editemails to sub to launchpad-doc - OOPS-823EB110  
[15:54] <Hobbsee> popey: you circular-subscribed the lists?
[15:54] <popey> don't cross the beams!
[15:54] <Hobbsee> if you did, that's a dupe.
[15:54] <popey> i just clicked the link, chose to sub to lp-doc and hit "Update subs"
[15:56] <directhex|bsp> erm... how can i make my PPA depend on $RELEASE-backports?
[15:57] <cprov> directhex|bsp: you can't PPAs are locked on $RELEASE, -updates and -security, atm
[15:57] <directhex|bsp> :(
[15:57] <directhex|bsp> that's sub-optimal
[15:58] <cprov> directhex|bsp: not really only upload to -backport itself can depend on it.
[15:58] <cprov> directhex|bsp: anyway, we are working to extend this via Archive dependencies in the next cycle. So you are lucky :)
[15:59] <directhex|bsp> when's the next cycle?
[16:00] <cprov> directhex|bsp: 26th this month
[16:01] <directhex|bsp> well, could be much worse then. thanks for the info
[16:02] <cprov> directhex|bsp: sorry, but I have to ask, why to you need -backports ?
[16:02] <directhex|bsp> cprov, libvisual-0.4
[16:03] <cprov> directhex|bsp: does it also depends on other backported packages ?
[16:03] <cprov> directhex|bsp: if not,  you could just rebuild it in your PPA and carry on.
[16:04] <directhex|bsp> yeah, that's a reasonable hack
[16:07] <matsubara> popey: you were bitten by bug 208431
[16:07] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 208431 in launchpad "OOPS trying to subscribe to inactive mailing list" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/208431 - Assigned to Barry Warsaw (barry)
[16:08] <popey> ah, excellent, thanks matsubara 
[16:17] <persia> Can an OOPS be submitted here, or only via email?  How about in a bug report?
[16:27] <gmb> persia: Feel free to tell us about it here.
[16:28] <gmb> But a bug report or email would be a more permanent record from our point of view.
[16:28] <persia> OOPS-823E2752 was generated from https://launchpad.net/token/NoYouWontGetMyToken/+accountmerge when trying to merge the alfie-ist account into the rhonda account.  This is a repeat of previous attempts.
[16:28] <ubotu> https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/823E2752
[16:29] <gmb> persia: Right, thanks. I'll look into that.
[16:29] <persia> Should this be done as a question rather than a semi-automated merge, or is there some bug that can be worked around?
[16:30] <gmb> persia: I honestly don't know. It looks like there was a database timeout - that's what caused the OOPS.
[16:30] <gmb> persia: In this case, I'd say file a question so that we can sort it out for you manually, and I'll file a bug about the timeout.
[16:30] <persia> gmb.  Thanks.  I'll tell Rhonda to try again later, or submit a question if she gets frustrated.
[16:30] <gmb> persia: NP.
[16:33] <gmb> persia: bug 210864
[16:33] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 210864 in launchpad "Timeout when attempting to merge accounts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/210864
[16:34] <persia> gmb: Thanks.
[16:40] <ubotu> New bug: #210864 in launchpad "Timeout when attempting to merge accounts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/210864
[16:50] <kiko> dupe
[16:50] <kiko> matsubara, what's it a dupe of? :)
[16:57] <matsubara> bug 162510
[16:57] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 162510 in launchpad "Merging people times out updating POSubmission and POMsgSet" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/162510
[17:22] <LaserJock> so, umm, what are we supposed to do with openid?
[17:29] <Rinchen> LaserJock, ?
[17:29] <LaserJock> I got an email from flacoste
[17:30] <LaserJock> but I have no idea what I'm actually supposed to test
[17:30] <Rinchen> LaserJock, https://help.launchpad.net/OpenID
[17:30] <Rinchen> LaserJock, e.g. Login to pibb.com  or my blog :-)
[17:30] <Rinchen> or any of the 1000s of other enabled sites
[17:32] <LaserJock> so I can't use it the other way around?
[17:32] <LaserJock> I can't log in to LP using openid?
[17:32] <Rinchen> LaserJock, correct. We don't support that at this time.
[17:32] <LaserJock> :/
[17:33] <LaserJock> fair enough, one step at a time :-)
[17:34] <Rinchen> LaserJock, I've actually been using it since November as part of the alpha and it's worked really well for me.
[17:34] <LaserJock> do the forums or the wiki or anything else that uses LP authentication use openid?
[17:34] <Rinchen> LaserJock, we've had to upgrade the openid code when 2.0 was released and that delayed the announement a bit
[17:35] <Rinchen> LaserJock, internally we do (the canonical store for example) and after openid comes out of beta we have plans to expand it to the fridge and the forums (we're working with the forums council)
[17:35] <ralph> Hi, is it accepted that the pie chart on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu is a poor way to present the information and something like a bar chart would be better.  Or should I open a bug to try and argue that the small wedges aren't clearly visible and the labels overprint?
[17:35] <Rinchen> LaserJock, you can see those blueprints by following the email from the beta note
[17:35] <Rinchen> ralph, there's an existing bug for that :-)
[17:35] <ralph> OK, thought there might be.  Thanks.
[17:38] <LaserJock> Rinchen: as sort of a pet peeve, I think it's a pretty bad idea to link to LP blueprints from any help.lp.net page
[17:39] <Rinchen> LaserJock, why?
[17:39] <LaserJock> because nobody can read the specs
[17:39] <Rinchen> the details, sure. I agree with that
[17:39] <LaserJock> you're linking to a private wiki, which is most unhelpful to regular users
[17:39] <Rinchen> the titles are often of some benefit though
[17:40] <Rinchen> and yes, we have some plans to address that
[17:41] <LaserJock> but the specs are what people care about, most titles and short descriptions only lead you to "I wish I knew what they were talking about, why doesn't this "Read the full specification" link work?"
[17:46] <jelmer> hi
[17:46] <jelmer> I can't find any openid url on my profile page
[17:47] <jelmer> do I need to enable openid support somehow?
[17:53] <LaserJock> jelmer: what are you trying to do?
[17:53] <jelmer> trying out the new OpenID provider support
[17:54] <LaserJock> you just stick in https://login.launchpad.net I think
[17:54] <jelmer> LaserJock: I was trying to use delegation
[17:54] <jmehdi> I'd like to know what the "request feedback" form does; does it just send an email? Is there some sort of workflow?
[17:55] <jelmer> LaserJock: the help page claims there is an openid url on my profile page but I can't find any
[17:55] <ubotu> New bug: #210899 in launchpad "openid login url not shown on edge.launchpad.net" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/210899
[17:55] <jelmer> LaserJock: Trying to use OP without delegation gives "Invalid entry no_identity_server: The provided URL doesn't declare its OpenID identity server."
[17:57] <jelmer> ah, "https://launchpad.net/~jelmer" works ok
[18:07] <AnAnt> Hello, how much time does it take for an svn import to start on LP ?
[18:10] <Rinchen> AnAnt, it may take some time for an import to be reviewed. We're working on making it faster.  If you don't see anything by tomorrow, email the launchpad-users list with the details
[18:10] <AnAnt> Rinchen: actually I filed the request yesterday
[18:10] <Rinchen> jelmer, LaserJock - need some help please
[18:11] <jelmer> Rinchen: hi
[18:11] <Rinchen> jelmer, LaserJock - if you look at your person pages in edge... under your PGP keys, do you see something that has your OpenID url?
[18:11] <jelmer> Rinchen: no
[18:11] <Rinchen> AnAnt, give it one more day please
[18:11] <AnAnt> Rinchen: ok
[18:12] <Rinchen> jelmer, LaserJock - crud, ok. 
[18:12] <Rinchen> we seem to have a minor issue
[18:12] <LaserJock> Rinchen: I don't see anything either
[18:13] <Rinchen> seems there is field which should display there.... I can see it for example...but the beta team can't
[18:14] <Rinchen> I've asked someone to look into it. It might be an inheritance issue with respect to teams
[18:15] <Rinchen> if this is the case then it's possible this is why you can't login to any openid sites as well
[18:18] <Rinchen> at least I could spell OpenID correctly :-)
[18:22] <Rinchen> I'll be back in 30
[18:27] <ubotu> New bug: #192084 in launchpad-documentation "BugStatuses help page does not cover custom BugZilla statuses" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192084
[18:27] <ubotu> New bug: #210908 in launchpad "allow customizable OpenID name" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/210908
[18:27] <ubotu> New bug: #210910 in malone "Difficult to unsubscribe from bug once it is marked duplicate of another" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/210910
[18:40] <Rinchen> jelmer, LaserJock, nealmcb - seems the url works fine in production....just not on edge.
[18:41] <LaserJock> Rinchen: sure
[18:41] <LaserJock> which is what is ironic
[18:41] <LaserJock> since it's Beta
[18:41] <Rinchen> it appears it's a simple config issue on our end. 
[18:45] <nealmcb> Rinchen: yeah - the approach in the bug above lets me find out what you want me to use
[18:46] <nealmcb> but I much prefer jelmer's approach of just using http://launchpad.net/~nealmcb/ as my openid
[18:47] <nealmcb> as I have argued before, for many use cases the point is to advertise my preferred, memorable id in my blog comments and bug reports, not some random jumble of letters
[18:53] <Rinchen> nealmcb, as listed in the help document, we originally did that but decided against it for privacy reasons
[18:54] <Rinchen> nealmcb, we do have an idea about allowing users to create an alias though.  
[18:58] <nealmcb> I'm still trying to figure out the use cases here - what scenario do you have where someone would want to use a launchpad id, but not want to expose their id?  Most existing openid usage, e.g. by bloggers, seems to be with the intention of advertising their id, not hiding it.  And for use by loco web sites, again we want to look up other attributes like loco membership etc, using their launchpad handle
[18:59] <nealmcb> I guess as a loco we can just require the ~handle "public" form, and report an error if they use the jumbled version or the 2.0 version, and then do our own lookups on the launchpad site to get the rest of the info, but that's a pain
[19:05] <jmehdi> I'd like to know what the "request feedback" form does; does it just send an email? Is there some sort of workflow?
[19:06] <nealmcb> Rinchen: ^^^ on use cases
[19:06] <Rinchen> jmehdi, it sends the LP devs an email
[19:06] <Rinchen> jmehdi, ah you mean in blueprints?
[19:07] <Rinchen> jmehdi, that notifies the person you requested feedback from to review the blueprint
[19:07] <Rinchen> nealmcb, gotcha
[19:07] <jmehdi> Rinchen, by email? that's all?
[19:09] <BUGabundo> ok I can't see it
[19:10] <BUGabundo> where it the OpenID id ??
[19:10] <BUGabundo> can't see it on my profile page!!
[19:11] <Rinchen> jmehdi, for blueprints we use it like this:  I write up a blueprint document and I want your opinion. I request feedback from you.  You get notified that I would like your feedback and you review it.
[19:11] <Rinchen> BUGabundo, known issue. Use production, not edge
[19:11] <Rinchen> BUGabundo, it's also in BOLD on the help wiki page :-)
[19:11] <BUGabundo> how can I do that?
[19:11] <BUGabundo> every time I get to LP
[19:12] <BUGabundo> it just redirects to edge
[19:12] <Rinchen> BUGabundo, go to launchpad.net (the front page) and hit the disable redirect button
[19:12] <BUGabundo> I've read that, but can't change
[19:12] <BUGabundo> ahhh
[19:12] <BUGabundo> home page, not my profile
[19:12] <BUGabundo> thanks
[19:12] <BUGabundo> and stagging?
[19:12] <jmehdi> rinchen, if I specify a team, it sends an email to all members?
[19:12] <BUGabundo> same issue?
[19:13] <Rinchen> hmm 
[19:13] <Rinchen> let me look
[19:13] <Rinchen> also I updated the help wiki to include the button instructions
[19:13] <BUGabundo> ok I'm on https://launchpad.net/~bugabundo
[19:13] <BUGabundo> but still don't see any link for openid
[19:14] <BUGabundo> ahhh
[19:14] <BUGabundo> seen it
[19:24] <persia> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2008-March/003488.html
[19:24] <persia> Err.  Sorry :)
[19:27] <Rinchen> nealmcb, jelmer - can you guys please visit https://staging.launchpad.net/people/+me     login, and then verify you can see your openid url for me please?
[19:28] <nealmcb> ahh - https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/199069 and the mutability problems....
[19:31] <BUGabundo> there is no OpenID on staging
[19:32] <pochu> jtv: hi, I just got an automated message from you asking me whether I've contacted the authors. Yes, they have asked me set Rosetta up to use it for the official emesene translations
[19:32] <pochu> jtv: (I don't know whether I should have replied to rosetta@lp.net as it wasn't clear in the mail...)
[19:34] <jtv> pochu: Thanks.
[19:34] <BUGabundo> there is no OpenID on staging, Rinchen
[19:34] <jtv> pochu: Just hitting "reply" would've been fine.  :-)
[19:34] <pochu> jtv: but hold on, I'll ask them again just in case
[19:35] <nealmcb> Rinchen: I'm now logged in on staging, and still don't see my openid there
[19:44] <jtv> pochu: thanks... could you reply to the email so I don't forget?
[19:44] <jtv> pochu: once everything is clear, I mean.
[19:47] <pochu> jtv: sure, I'll do that
[19:47] <jtv> pochu: thanks.
[19:52] <pochu> jtv: I've just got confirmation from an upstream administrator (he has just join IRC). Is that good enough for you?
[19:53] <jtv> pochu: sure.  I have to run now, so make sure you send that email!
[19:54] <pochu> jtv: ok, I'm on it :)
[19:54] <jtv> :)
[19:55] <jmehdi> how long does it take for a mailing list to be approved?
[19:56] <AnAnt> Hello, how can I change Email contact details for a team on LP ?
[19:57] <Rinchen> nealmcb, well, the simple answer to staging is... it won't work. :-)  The production changes applied today to enable openid access have not rolled out to staging. I'm trying to do the same changes on staging now though.
[20:00] <Rinchen> nealmcb, looks like I can't do it on staging. It'll be updated overnight
[20:00] <Rinchen> thanks for your help
[20:01] <Rinchen> AnAnt, you can edit the details of the team
[20:01] <Rinchen> AnAnt, specifically the link is change details
[20:01] <Rinchen> er
[20:01] <Rinchen> change contact address
[20:02] <Rinchen>   ...  ~yourteam/+contactaddress
[20:02] <AnAnt> Rinchen: thanks
[20:07] <nealmcb> Rinchen: delegation worked for me - cool!
[20:08] <Rinchen> nealmcb, awesome! You're the first regular user to confirm it.  
[20:10] <nealmcb> well, it worked on the http://openidenabled.com/resources/openid-test/diagnose-server/   but maybe not blogger.com
[20:14] <pochu> jtv: how can I create a translators team, btw? (it could be a good addition to https://help.launchpad.net/TranslationsImportPolicy or https://help.launchpad.net/FAQ/Translations)
[20:15] <nealmcb> when I try my openid and redirection on blogger.com it seems I get redirected to the https://login.launchpad.net/ but there are no login options there
[20:18] <Rinchen> nealmcb, odd,  can you send me  a screenshot of login.lp.net  and what you did to get there?
[20:43] <cr3> after I push i18n changes to my trunk which is registered with translations, will new translations magically appear later in the +translations page of the trunk?
[20:50] <Kmos> pt.archive.ubuntu.com is dead for some days already
[20:51] <Kmos> can someone kick it for another mirror to get a new ip
[20:51] <Kmos> ?
[21:02] <Rinchen> salgado ^^
[21:07] <salgado> Rinchen, Kmos, you have to ask that in #canonical-sysadmin
[21:07] <Rinchen> thanks
[21:14] <Kmos> salgado: already done =)
[21:14] <Kmos> thanks
[21:15] <kiko> pochu, ask a question -- you just create the team, really
[21:15] <kiko> pochu, oh, a translation team for what exactly?
[21:15] <rzr> kiko: hi thx for xnetcardconfig
[21:16] <kiko> rzr, you're welcome!
[21:16] <rzr> kiko: i am waiting LP to scan my tarball ...
[21:17] <kiko> rzr, which tarball?
[21:17] <pochu> kiko: emesene
[21:17] <kiko> pochu, you don't want to use one of the existing teams?
[21:17] <pochu> kiko: it's not documented anywhere, or at least I haven't found it
[21:18] <rzr> kiko: new release 
[21:18] <kiko> rzr, do we scan tarballs? I can't remember that ;)
[21:18] <rzr> A URL pattern that matches releases that are part of this series. Launchpad automatically scans this site to import new releases. Example: http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/emacs-21.*.tar.gz
[21:19] <rzr> https://launchpad.net/xnetcardconfig/trunk/+edit
[21:19] <pochu> kiko: well, the GNOME or perhaps the Ubuntu one are those which perhaps could be used by emesene, but this is not my decission, but the translators' one
[21:19] <kiko> pochu, you can decide to use one of the existing groups. here: https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/+groups
[21:19] <rzr> kiko: unless there is an other way to upload them ? 
[21:20] <pochu> kiko: and I will understand them if they prefer a group for them, unless you are going to accept them in a group
[21:21] <pochu> e.g. Ubuntu, but surely there's policies for becoming an e.g. Ubuntu translator (at least there were for ubuntu-l10n-es)
[21:21] <jmehdi> I want to change the contact address of my team but I got an error: <email> is already registered in Launchpad and is associated with <myTeam>. But I don't know where this <email> is already registered....
[21:22] <kiko> rzr, yes, just go to the release page and upload your tarballs
[21:22] <kiko> pochu, yes, that's true.
[21:22] <kiko> jmehdi, use launchpad.net/people to search by email address.
[21:23] <kiko> jmehdi, in the team page?
[21:23] <jmehdi> I don't find any email in change details 
[21:23] <kiko> jmehdi, give me a URL!
[21:23] <NicoV> Hi, I'd like to use launchpad for translating a project I am working on
[21:23] <NicoV> I don't know how to manage 2 .pot files : I uploaded both .pot files and the .po files I already have
[21:24] <NicoV> The .pot files have been taken into account but not the .po files
[21:24] <NicoV> Is there a rule for naming the .po files when you have several .pot ?
[21:24] <pochu> kiko: there's quite some translators translating emesene for some time now, and if moving to rosetta means they no longer can translate, then the move it's probably a no-go (again this is not my decission, but that's my POV)
[21:24] <kiko> NicoV, hmm, that's a good question. can you ask in answers.launchpad.net?
[21:24] <kiko> pochu, okay, just make sure you justify it that way when you make your request in answers.launchpad.net/rosetta
[21:24] <kiko> NicoV, use answers.launchpad.net/rosetta btw.
[21:25] <NicoV> ok, will try
[21:25] <rzr> kiko: excuse me if i am blind , but where is the release page link ? :)
[21:25] <jmehdi> kiko, I want to set ubuntume@googlegroups.com here: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntume.team/+contactaddress
[21:26] <pochu> kiko: will do, thanks for pointing me in the right direction :)
[21:27] <Rinchen> rzr, bottom right footer on LP
[21:27] <jmehdi> I think there are duplicate accounts: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntume-googlegroups
[21:27] <Rinchen> rzr, it currently says 1.2.3 on production
[21:29] <rzr> Rinchen: i am talking about publishing user project tarball not LP
[21:29] <Rinchen> rzr, ah sorry.
[21:29] <rzr> no problem :) kiko will show me :)
[21:30] <kiko> rzr, is this a release off trunk?
[21:31] <kiko> if so, do this:
[21:31] <kiko> https://edge.launchpad.net/xnetcardconfig/trunk
[21:31] <kiko> https://edge.launchpad.net/xnetcardconfig/trunk/+addrelease
[21:31] <kiko> add your release there
[21:31] <kiko> then in the release page, upload files!
[21:31] <kiko> easy
[21:32] <rzr> edge ... ok I missed this F manual
[21:33] <rzr> kiko: thanx, I'll do this if the scanner did not take my archive before tomorow
[21:33] <kiko> ok.
[21:34] <rzr> kiko: btw where is the link that lead to this "addrelease" page ?
[21:35] <kiko> Register a release, I think?
[21:35] <rzr> ok
[21:35] <rzr> sorry
[21:35] <kiko> nothing to be sorry about :)
[21:35] <rzr> i meant this link :
[21:35] <rzr> https://launchpad.net/xnetcardconfig/trunk/+addrelease
[21:35] <rzr> on edge the link is present
[21:35] <kiko> you go to trunk:
[21:35] <rzr> not on 123
[21:35] <kiko> https://launchpad.net/xnetcardconfig/trunk/
[21:36] <kiko> are you logged in?
[21:36] <rzr> oh wait you're right
[21:36] <rzr> i told you i am blind :)
[21:52] <ubotu> New bug: #211008 in soyuz "Add visual indicator for obsolete (superseded) packages in PPA" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211008
[22:26] <jmehdi> is there someone who could merge these teams: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntume-googlegroups with https://launchpad.net/~ubuntume.team (the later is the good one)
[22:28] <jmehdi> the first one is associated to a mailing list email...
[22:28] <jmehdi> and when I use "Merge launchpad accounts" I don't receive any mail
[22:31] <rzr> jmehdi: turn down your spam filter
[22:32] <jmehdi> I don't have one
[22:32] <rzr> same for your mailserver ?
[22:34] <jmehdi> I'm going to check, but are you sure it will work with this google group mailing list email address?
[22:35] <jmehdi> I forgot I had spamassassin enabled... it is disabled now, I request the merge again
[23:46] <ubotu> New bug: #211082 in launchpad "feedback@launchpad.net abandoned" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211082
[23:50] <calc> anyone know how long it should take before i get the OOo translations that i requested about 30m (or so) ago?
[23:51] <ubotu> New bug: #211085 in launchpad "Warzone 2100 uses the Gna! bugtracker" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211085