mrooneyhm, after an update gnome widgets suddenly look terrible!02:13
mrooneythat's neat.02:13
nabcoreAny devs have any ideas on this one? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/+bug/5838402:23
ubotuLaunchpad bug 58384 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 "Default firmware for acx11 is non-ideal" [High,Incomplete]02:23
hrlranyone around who can confirm a bug for me?02:55
ubotuPlease don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)02:59
hrlrOh great...  It's you again...  anyways...  Here's the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/21009503:00
ubotuLaunchpad bug 210095 in network-manager "NM doesn't pass hostname to DHCP server" [Undecided,New]03:00
mrooneyhrlr: I feel like I have seen this before...hmm03:01
hrlrThe bug provides a lot more detail and an easy way to see the bug.03:02
mrooneyoh it certainly may, but are you aware of another similar bug?03:03
mrooneyI am not seeing anything immediately03:03
hrlrmrooney:  no I'm not aware of anything similar...  nothing that I've seen on the forums or on launchpad.03:04
hrlrmrooney:  I was on here the other day looking for help in getting this bug figured out and this is as far as I've gotten.  Better than before I suppose.03:10
mrooneyhrlr: well, I will be happy to confirm it for you since you provided plenty of information and you seem to know what you are talking about03:13
mrooneyhowever I am not a dev so, I can't do much more :]03:13
mrooneyalso it was my understanding you could confirm that yourself but perhaps I am wrong03:14
mrooneymaybe you are just ethically opposed to confirming your own bugs03:14
JohnPhysmrooney:  I think people are supposed to refrain from confirming their own bugs03:16
mrooneyJohnPhys: yeah, makes sense in most cases03:16
JohnPhysmrooney:  if nothing else, it makes sure it's not just an error in that person's setup.03:16
hrlrmrooney:  I don't think authors can confirm their own bugs..  I always seek other peoples help.  Maybe I'm wrong.03:16
JohnPhysthere should be an #ubuntu-confirm, wehre people just wait to respond to requests to confirm bugs03:17
hrlrmrooney:  But I've tried it on a LiveCD...  alternate hardware...  nothing seems to be indicating setup problems.03:17
mrooneyhrlr: so you are saying you confirmed this same issue on a different machine with a livecd? the hostname was note reported there also?03:18
hrlrmrooney:  correct.03:18
hrlrmrooney:  and also on the same machine that has an installed version.  Just to be of the safe side.03:19
mrooneyhrlr: would you mind adding a short comment about that, I think it will be beneficial to know it isn't an isolated user or hardware issue03:19
mrooneyunless it is the same hardware, in that case it would also be useful to note03:20
mrooneyI wish I had another machine to test this myself03:20
mrooneyI can try with a macbook here but I don't know the appropriate command03:21
hrlrmrooney:  Alright.  Comment added.03:21
hrlrare you wired?03:22
mrooneyI could be, though I am not currently03:22
mrooneyI am sitting a few feet from the router03:22
hrlrIt would likely disconnect you.  But you could try it...  type: "sudo tcpdump" and then renew your connection with your router.03:23
hrlrOr just look through /var/log/daemon.lo03:23
mrooneyhmm I don't appear to have that file03:24
hrlrdo you not have tcpdump or /var/log/daemon.log?03:27
mrooneythe log, sorry03:27
hrlrYou're using NM?03:27
mrooneydoes the tcpdump generate that?03:27
mrooneyI believe so, unless I am confused03:28
mrooneyaren't we just talking about the default network manager in Hardy/Gnome?03:28
hrlrNo.  tcpdump provides an on-screen dump of network activity.  So when you renew your IP, related data will show up on screen.03:29
hrlrmrooney: yes.03:29
hrlrNM 0.6.603:29
hrlr(although I wish it were 0.7)  :)03:29
mrooneyhrlr: is that a joke or does a 0.7 actually exist experimentally?03:37
hrlrmrooney:  it has been around for a while but still in development.03:38
JohnPhysmrooney:  0.7 is the "development" branch of nwm, apparently there are severe stability issues, which is why we have 0.6.6, which incorporates some of the improvements/fixes.03:39
mrooneyoh okay, I can't find any references to it really, even on the projects website03:39
JohnPhyshmm, me neither, but I know I saw it previously03:42
hrlrYou'll mostly read about it in their mailing list.03:42
hrlrIt's only available in SVN.  You won't even find 0.6.6 up there because the main guy who handles NM doesn't have access.03:43
mrooneyhrlr: haha yeah I noticed that it said 0.6.5 was the latest03:46
hrlrmrooney:  It should be up on there soon.  But he does have the files hosted elsewhere.  Their main focus is on 0.7 now and it'll do everything but wash my dishes.03:48
mrooneyhrlr: nice, do you have any links that explain new features? I always love to read about what is coming?03:51
hrlrHave a good laugh  :)03:52
hrlrmrooney: 0.7.1 will feature a new applet though.  That'll be nice.03:54
mrooneythanks, I can't wait!03:58
mrooneyIntrepid, maybe.03:58
JohnPhysanyone experiencing Bug #190848 in Hardy?04:13
ubotuLaunchpad bug 190848 in gnome-terminal "font in terminal does not resemble font in preview" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19084804:13
askandDoesn't bug 63352 deserve a higher priority? It is like Mads says in the report "a real showstopper for some of us"04:37
ubotuLaunchpad bug 63352 in linux "Creative labs X-Fi sound card unsupported" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/6335204:37
mrooneyaskand: I agree, I can't adjust it but I can chime in at least04:41
askandmrooney: Glad to hear, let's hope someone else in here can change it :)04:41
mrooneyokay I added a comment, also mentioning the Linux Driver Project, that could be useful if it is still active04:45
RAOFaskand: Nope, that looks wishlist to me.04:46
RAOF"I wish this hardware that has never previously worked to work." :)04:47
hrlrRAOF:  What priority would you see this as?: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/21009504:48
ubotuLaunchpad bug 210095 in network-manager "NM doesn't pass hostname to DHCP server" [Undecided,Confirmed]04:48
askandRAOF: According to wiki "Ones that affect unusual configurations or uncommon hardware" should be marked as atleast low..04:48
hrlrRAOF: And who establishes priority?04:49
askandRAOF: Im not eve sure if it counts as uncommon hardware04:49
askandhrlr: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance04:49
hrlraskand: thanks man!04:49
askandyour welcome :)04:49
askandRAOF:  I would almost say "Has a severe impact on a small portion of Ubuntu users"04:50
hrlrhrmm...  seems like my bug would fall under critical to me.04:51
RAOFhrlr: In what way?  Also, I contend that not everyone is affected by it (since I'm not :))04:51
RAOFaskand: If it was a regression - ie: there had been sound support before, and now there isn't - then it would be probably be medium or higher.  But basically, that card has never worked.  So you get less sympathy for finding that it doesn't work in Ubuntu :/04:52
askandRAOF: I see :(04:52
RAOFhrlr: Your bug seems to be in the right place, and people who actually know what they're talking about will eventually manage to see it.04:53
hrlrRAOF:  How were you able to determine that you weren't affected by it?04:54
RAOFhrlr: By seeing my hostname in the router's routing logs.04:55
hrlrRAOF:  And you're using dynamic IP?04:56
RAOFDHCP, yup.04:56
hrlrRAOF:  Interesting.04:57
* RAOF fails to see how it has a severe impact on... well, anyone really.04:58
hrlrSo, high maybe?05:00
RAOFWhat _is_ the impact of that bug?05:02
RAOFI mean, to me it seems purely cosmetic.  What does it prevent you from doing?05:02
hrlrRAOF:  "Undecided"05:02
askandRAOF: Do you know if that soundproblem could have been fixed in another distro than ubuntu? Or is it a problem in the kernel itself (missing drivers) and therefore could not work anywhere?05:02
RAOFaskand: There aren't any drivers written for your card at all*.  It's not going to work anywhere.05:03
askandRAOF: except for the oss-drivers that has an early beta..could this be inplemented in later ubuntureleases somehow?05:04
RAOFhrlr: Oh, I know what the current importance is set in Launchpad.  What I meant was "why is that bug a problem for you"?  Why should a developer care? (Note, it's entirely possible that there's a good reason for someone to care a lot.  I just can't see it)05:04
RAOFaskand: It's tremendously unlikely that OSS will  appearing in the near05:04
RAOFaskand: Will be *used* in the near future for Ubuntu.  It's possible someone will write an ALSA driver, though.05:05
askandRAOF: Why is that? Thanks for answering my questions btw :)05:05
RAOFaskand: Because we've just spent the last couple of years purging the system of the awkward travesty that is OSS (< version 4, no idea of 4).05:07
askandRAOF: Ah I see, pulseaudio and all this :)05:07
RAOFaskand: Or, rather: there's a perfectly good driver infrastructure available.  It's ALSA, and that's what everyone has been writing drivers for/applications against for a goodly number of years.05:07
hrlrRAOF:  Good question.  I'll try to establish a worst case scenario.05:09
RAOFIt might also be interesting to know if it works correctly when you don't have duplicate hostnames, of course.05:15
hrlrRAOF:  I don't follow.05:16
hrlrRAOF:  These are just separate instances of Ubuntu on the same computer.  None of them exist at the same time.05:17
RAOFhrlr: Ah, right.  It looked from the bug report like you had two computers with the same 'ubuntu' hostname on your network.05:18
hrlrRAOF:  No.  Just one instance on the network at one time.  (reboot: try Gutsy/reboot: try Hardy/reboot: try Gutsy LiveCD/reboot: try hardy LiveCD)05:21
RAOFAh, right.  It's possible that I'm just tired.05:21
hrlrRAOF:  Yeah, I'm getting there myself.05:22
* RAOF suspects that it's not 3:20pm for hrlr.05:23
hrlrRAOF:  How's the weather tomorrow?  :)05:25
hrlrj/k  :)05:25
mr-russHi, when running a beta, like Hardy, how do I install all binaries with debug symbols so bug reports are more useful?06:45
mr-russI know I can install individual dbgsym packages.  Is there a method to do an entire system with debug packages?06:47
JohnPhysmr-russ:  I don't know that you'd want to install *all* of them at the moment, I think that would take up quite a bit of disk space.06:48
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mr-russhow big is a debug package vs stripped?06:49
mr-russmaybe at least stack frame pointers, so the bt at least has function names in it.  but maybe my debugging is rusty, been working on interpreted languages for too long.06:50
mr-russokay, well pidgin debug is installed, lets see if it decides to crash again.06:54
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mr-russI can never remember what the old topic was to know the difference.06:56
gilligan_https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/14519 <-- does anyone know something about this bug ? it is marked as resolved yet this problem is exactly what I am running into now07:31
gilligan_eh, sorry07:32
gilligan_wrong link07:32
ubotuLaunchpad bug 75527 in update-manager "dist upgrade on feisty tries to remove apt (dup-of: 75562)" [Undecided,New]07:32
ubotuLaunchpad bug 75562 in gcc-4.1 "broken dependencies in feisty dist-upgrade." [Undecided,Fix released]07:32
gilligan_fix released.. well it doesn't seem fixed here07:33
gilligan_and i've made sure i've updated all feisty packages07:33
gilligan_it's supposed to be fixed with libstdc++6 4.1.1-21ubuntu2 yet I have 4.1.2-0ubuntu4 installed and the problem remains/or has been reintroduced?07:37
gilligan_hm.. i removed gcc and now it seems to be solved07:43
james_wgilligan_: it's probably worth filing a bug with all the output you can get07:47
james_ware you using the graphical updater?07:47
gilligan_no.. i initially just used apt-get07:48
james_wwell if you include all of the terminal output from your apt-get session that should help07:48
gilligan_also tried the graphical upgrader to see if it would make any difference tho, which as I expected it didn't07:48
james_wyou are just updating within feisty, or you are upgrading to gutsy?07:49
gilligan_upgrading to gutsy07:49
james_wdo you have feisty-security and feisty-updates included in your sources?07:50
james_wdo you have feisty-backports?07:50
gilligan_i am pretty certain that gcc-4.1 was causing the problem07:50
james_wit might be backports that are the problem then07:50
james_wI think you should file a bug and include all that information as well07:51
gilligan_oh.. or it might be libstdc++6-4.1-dev ..07:51
gilligan_james_w: will do.. have to wait like 1h for the upgrade to finish anyway...07:51
james_wthe backports team may need to update some backports if that is indeed the case.07:51
james_wmake sure you don't lose the top of the terminal output from your session07:51
gilligan_yeah i gathered some information.. not as complete as it could perhaps be i am afraid.. but I am at work and i need to get stuff done so I can't spend all that much time i'm afraid.. still i am certain i can provide information to be helpful07:55
gilligan_james_w: however, which bug report do you think I should reply to ?07:55
ubotuLaunchpad bug 75527 in update-manager "dist upgrade on feisty tries to remove apt (dup-of: 75562)" [Undecided,New]07:55
ubotuLaunchpad bug 75562 in gcc-4.1 "broken dependencies in feisty dist-upgrade." [Undecided,Fix released]07:55
james_wgilligan_: file a new one07:55
james_wthat's supposed to be fixed and you are seeing the issue with different package versions07:56
james_wyou can mention the reports in your bug though07:56
gilligan_yep, will do07:57
gilligan_thanks for your assistance on this07:57
gilligan_james_w: hm.. what package should I specify for the bug report? i mean.. i'm not exactly sure which one really is causing the problem08:04
ubotuLaunchpad bug 210688 in gcc-defaults "upgrade from feisty to gutsy tries to remove apt" [Undecided,New]08:14
gilligan_hello seb08:16
seb128hey gilligan_08:16
gilligan_seb128: I remember you being a knowledgable person hehe.. would you mind having a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-defaults/+bug/210688 and add correct packages/project/whatever ? I have a feeling i didn't really specify that properly08:20
ubotuLaunchpad bug 210688 in gcc-defaults "upgrade from feisty to gutsy tries to remove apt" [Undecided,New]08:20
seb128gilligan_: that bug is of no use and doesn't seem to be a gcc-defaults one08:23
seb128gilligan_: as minimal information you should include the dist-upgrade summary08:24
seb128gilligan_: and the resolver debug log too08:24
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gilligan_well sorry i am at work and am/was trying to get my work pc upgraded so i don't all that much time to gather information08:25
gilligan_the upgrade is still in process now08:25
gilligan_plus I didn't specify gcc-defaults .. not know any better I specified gcc but it got expanded to gcc-defaults08:25
seb128gilligan_: gcc is a compiler, it's not something using in upgrades08:27
gilligan_oh really? ... well i guessed that much.. still it seems like one of the gcc packages has broken dependencies08:27
gilligan_obviously I don't know for sure what exact package is causing the problem so I can't specify it08:28
seb128you should use update-manager to do updates if you don't know what you are doing08:29
seb128it seems not a bug08:29
seb128but rather than you don't understand how the packaging system is working08:29
gilligan_the update-manager really doesn't change anything about that at all08:30
seb128oh it does08:30
seb128it doesn't remove packages08:30
gilligan_well yes.. it instead just fails and stops completely08:30
gilligan_because it can't resolve the problem inflicted by the dependency problem which supposdely existed and supposdely was fixed before with a new libstdc++ release08:31
seb128_<seb128> oh it does08:32
seb128_ it doesn't remove packages08:32
seb128_ I'm closing the bug as a support request for now, it has no information of any use and doesn't seem to be a bug08:32
gilligan_ well yes.. it instead just fails and stops completely08:33
gilligan_because it can't resolve the problem inflicted by the dependency problem which supposdely existed and supposdely was fixed before with a new libstdc++ release08:33
seb128_nothing in your bug description mentions that08:33
seb128_you should really add an apt debug log using the conflict resolver to the bug08:34
seb128_gilligan_: note that feisty to gutsy upgrades issues are not a priority now since most people upgraded to gutsy any or will upgrade to hardy now08:36
gilligan_well as it happens i still had a feisty installation at work which i now wanted to upgrade08:36
seb128_gilligan_: well, try using aptitude for the upgrade it might be smarter08:38
gilligan_and i took the time to file a bug report..08:38
gilligan_i'm almost certain that I tried that yesterday and it wasn't08:39
gilligan_it is my impression that the only way to upgrade to gutsy was to remove the gcc pakcages as mentioned in the report but do as you wish, i'd just appreciate it if you didn't treat me like an idiot ;)08:41
elmargolbug #21051008:43
ubotuLaunchpad bug 210510 in xine-lib "[Hardy Heron] Some formats including quicktime (.mov) and m4v stop playing with xine after upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21051008:43
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thekornmorgen afflux10:51
affluxmorgen thekorn ;)10:51
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james_whi Igorot12:22
james_wand Iulian :-)12:22
IulianHello james12:24
james_whi qense13:00
pedro_morning fellows!13:01
james_whi pedro_13:01
seb128_hey hey pedro_13:01
pedro_hello james_w, seb128_ :-)13:01
IulianHeya pedro!13:02
pedro_hi Iulian!13:03
warrendcan someone have a look : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdebi/+bug/20957813:48
ubotuLaunchpad bug 209578 in gdebi "gdebi-kde crashes with an memory allocation error" [Undecided,New]13:48
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warrendcan someone have a look : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdebi/+bug/20957816:06
ubotuLaunchpad bug 209578 in gdebi "gdebi-kde crashes with an memory allocation error" [Undecided,New]16:06
yuriywarrend: iirc Riddell and mhb already know about that bug and someone is working on it but hasn't figured it out yet17:30
warrendyuriy: ok, does they plan to resolve it quikly?17:31
yuriyhowever, it's not "any package", it's intermittent17:31
warrendwhat do you mean? (poor vocabulary ^^)17:31
yuriywarrend: as in it only happens with some packages, and only some of the time17:31
warrendbut would like to know if they plan to release a package to test it out17:32
warrendbecause if it doesn't work for hardy, it will be a huge bug ;)17:32
warrendthanks for the response ;)17:32
yuriywarrend: somebody is working on it but hasn't figured out the problem yet. would certainly be good to fix it for hardy of course17:32
warrend+1 ;)17:32
warrenddo you know the bug link where it's being discusses?17:33
warrenddiscussed? *17:33
yuriywarrend: i'm looking for it. i'm just going off of discussionon irc though17:34
yuriywarrend: i think it's bug 15394317:43
ubotuLaunchpad bug 153943 in gdebi "Gdebi-kde uses massive amounts of memory!" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15394317:43
warrendwill be hard to fix if you see that it didn't change since 3 months17:44
bdmurraypedro_: Do the new package graphs look okay to you?17:53
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pedro_bdmurray: for firefox and xul? yeah they look pretty good thanks17:55
bdmurraypedro_: Great, I just wanted to make sure.17:56
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bdmurraygreg-g: I've moved the "List of Triagers" stuff you did to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Contacts18:17
bdmurrayIf you have an area of speciality or packages you feel adapt at triaging please add yourself to the list!18:19
james_wbdmurray: is it worth getting that message out wider than the bugsquad?18:40
bdmurrayjames_w: The triaging specialities one? Maybe, however there is some overlap with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResponsibilities.  My thought was the triaging people would be a first point of contact and then the developers - if that makes sense.18:42
james_wah, ok.18:42
james_wthat does make sense, I didn't know about the other page.18:42
james_wI see you specialise in everything :-)18:43
bdmurrayMaybe nothing would be more better? ;)18:43
greg-gbdmurray: looks good18:47
bdmurraygreg-g: thanks to you. :-)18:48
greg-gahh, good, you have already sent out an email about it.18:52
secretlondonI've added myself, I'm a bit of a jack of all trades though19:02
thekornbdmurray, hi, what do you think about a new upload of bughelper/py-lp-bugs?19:07
bdmurraythekorn: I'm in a meeting at the moment but think it would be a good idea.19:07
bdmurrayIt is on my list for this week.19:08
thekornbdmurray, ok, I will walk through the buglist and check if there are some bugfixes uncommitted in a bit19:09
bdmurraythekorn: great, I want to get a new out because of the python warnings bit and the dontlist stuff.  Additionally, I'm concerned about the attachment parsing in the +text interface, but I do agree with your comment in bug 210576.19:11
ubotuLaunchpad bug 210576 in python-launchpad-bugs "failing to parse bug attachments in text mode" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21057619:11
thekornbdmurray, from py-lp-bugs' poit of view every solution to fix bug 210576 might cause instability: we can adjust the current parser, this will be a diff of about 50 lines of code, and I'm really unsure if this works at all19:17
ubotuLaunchpad bug 210576 in python-launchpad-bugs "failing to parse bug attachments in text mode" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21057619:18
thekornor we can use the completely new parser, which has a solution but is only tested for some 10 bugs19:18
bdmurrayI'll see what I can do about getting the launchpad bug fixed as that would really be best.19:20
james_wsecretlondon: hi19:29
james_wsecretlondon: are you a member of ubuntu-uk?19:30
james_wah, ok.19:30
james_wwe're hoping to have a packaging/bug jam in a couple of months time, do you know what they are?19:30
secretlondonthe history is on the mailing list if you really care19:30
james_wah, sorry, I didn't realise there was history19:31
secretlondonthey caused me to drop out of all Ubuntu for a long time19:31
james_wwould that make you not want to be involved in anything associated with that group then?19:31
secretlondonso I don't want to add my 5 a day to their score etc ;)19:31
james_wthat's fair enough.19:31
secretlondonI wouldn't feel comfortable tbh19:31
james_wthat's a shame.19:32
secretlondoneven if there are other women now19:32
james_wI was hoping you would come along and help teach about bug triaging, but I understand if you don't want to.19:32
secretlondonI'd really rather not deal with them19:33
james_wfair enough19:33
james_whi bddebian19:39
bddebianHello james_w19:39
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thekornheno, hi, can you please change the branch mentioned on https://code.edge.launchpad.net/bughelper/trunk/+source to ~bughelper-dev/bughelper/main20:05
thekornit think only the Registrant can do this20:05
henothekorn: looking20:06
henothekorn: done, let me know if that's ok now20:07
thekornheno, looks good, thanks20:07
bdmurraythekorn: I might also be able to do it.20:08
bdmurrayFor future reference20:08
thekornbdmurray, oh, did not know, so it's the registrant and the driver (or an admin of the drivers team)?20:10
bdmurraythekorn: I'm not certain which team I'm in that would allow me to do it.  Have you tried changing it?20:12
thekornbdmurray, yes I got an unfriendly "Not allowed here"-page, without further info, so I thought te best way is to ask the registrant changing it20:14
bdmurrayheno: maybe the owner should be the bughelper-dev team and thekorn would be able to change it.  Do you mind if I change the owner?20:18
bdmurrayHow do you setup a 5-a-day team?20:24
blueyedbdmurray: AFAIK those are LoCo teams..20:25
blueyedYou can just edit the .teams file in five-a-day-data.20:25
bdmurrayblueyed: thanks!20:33
thekornblueyed, hi, does the solution I proposed for bug 210406 makes sense for you?20:47
ubotuLaunchpad bug 210406 in bughelper "Allow easy generation of Launchpad cookie file" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21040620:47
blueyedthekorn: well.. I really don't like passing password on the command line, and it shouldn't be encouraged! (visible in process list, shell history, ...)20:48
blueyedthekorn: I wasn't proposing to use curl (and depend on it), but only the method being used.. login to the +login page and get the cookie information.20:49
blueyedThat should be possible quite easily, I believe.20:49
thekornblueyed, I agree, that's why I did not add this options so far, but when you run curl you pass your password to the cmd-line20:49
blueyedyes! (and that's bad)20:50
thekornblueyed, what about adding your curl ...-solution to the docs and just close this bug as won't fix20:51
blueyedthekorn: bad idea.. ;) please leave it open, so somebody can take it later, e.g. me :)20:52
thekornblueyed, ok, but I think a '--gen-cookie' option does not fit into the bughelper tools at all, because it is not related to bugworking at all,20:57
thekornbut ok, I will leave it open, and add a comment, thanks20:58
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thekornbdmurray, I went through bughelper's/pylpbugs' buglists,21:25
thekornall bugfixes are committed to the .main branches21:25
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thekornI created a new tag for both projects called 'fix-available'21:26
thekornthese bugs have a patch, but this are no bugfixes but are adding new features21:26
thekornbdmurray, so from my point of view the current state of the both .main brnaches is good to upload21:28
bdmurraythekorn: I've tested 203312 extensively but it should probably wait for Intrepid - that is what the tag is for right?21:33
thekornbdmurray, yes21:35
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* DOOM_NX eipa feugw feugw feugw, 8a vrw allh gkomena, na mai egw kala mwro mou kai apo gunaikes NA!22:57
blueyedjames_w: thanks for taking care of 201291.. I wonder now: shouldn't the mime types get added to application's mimetype fields in .desktop files, too?23:02
james_wblueyed: yes23:02
blueyedjames_w: Is audio/annodex relevant for amarok/xine?23:03
james_wblueyed: however seb128 told me that mime-support isn't a very critical package here23:03
james_wit's shared-mime-info that provides the information to gnome.23:03
james_wI'm not even sure what that is, did I add it?23:03
blueyedjames_w: from http://wiki.xiph.org/index.php/MIME_Types_and_File_Extensions23:05
james_wah, I didn't add the annodex ones.23:06
james_wI don't know if that was the right decision23:07
james_wafter hardy I'm going to talk to the Debian maintainer and get everything up to date with that page23:07
blueyedjames_w: dunno. I'll take everything starting with audio/* for amarok.23:07
james_wthen we'll have a whole development cycle for applications to catch up23:07
james_wthat doesn't stop you adding it now, but I'd work out if it's supported first.23:08
blueyedjames_w: well, does not appear to be relevant really: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annodex23:11
blueyedapachelogger_: have you worked on bug 191475?23:12
ubotuLaunchpad bug 191475 in amarok "[hardy] media tab in file management preferences missing applications" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19147523:12
james_whmm, yeah23:12
blueyedseb128: is there a reference page/list, with the mimetypes needed for 191475?23:13
seb128bug #19147523:13
ubotuLaunchpad bug 191475 in amarok "[hardy] media tab in file management preferences missing applications" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19147523:13
seb128blueyed: no23:13
blueyedseb128: ok, will look at g-d-a-p's source23:15
seb128what is that?23:15
seb128it doesn't use those23:15
blueyedwell, that's the app in question?! (where e.g. amarok is missing)23:16
blueyedso nautilus is integrated there?23:16
seb128nautilus is what is doing the autorun thing23:17
blueyedoh.. I see.. two different things..23:17
blueyedI was looking for the preferred app tab.23:17
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* DOOM_NX akoma s'agapaw kai se fernw sto mualo, niw8w pws se filaw s'alla xeilh pou filw23:24
JohnPhysof course23:26
greg-gplease update to23:27
greg-gignore that23:28
owhI'm working on Bug #203169. How do I properly report an equivalent bug to Debian so they have the benefits of the patches that are attached? The bug as it stands has been discussed in ubuntu-server and we feel that while it won't make it to Hardy, and possibly will be supplanted by Upstart in Ibex, the work still needs to go to Debian.23:33
ubotuLaunchpad bug 203169 in udev ""status" function for init scripts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20316923:33
owhShould I be asking this in #LP or #Debian?23:36
greg-gjcastro: ? ^^23:41
greg-ghe _might_ know, but he is pretty busy23:42
owhgreg-g: Tah, I'll leave this window open for a bit.23:42
bdmurrayowh: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/ReportingToDebian might be of some assistance23:47
owhbdmurray: Tah23:48
greg-gahh, yes, there usually is a wiki page about everything :)23:57

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