[00:00] I have read the LP legal page, is quite misterious... :) [00:00] "Before you use this content in some way please take care to ensure that you have the relevant rights and permissions from the copyright holder. " [00:01] Volans: i am sure we can get that permission [00:01] point is that its hairy from the overall licensing POV [00:01] imo making it themable is the appropriate way to do that. [00:02] then using some theme icon that can be similat to those I have used? [00:02] Volans: imo we should not tackle the licensing issue now, but take some time for that [00:02] the way you did the copyright file was just right for a short term thing [00:03] you can also say that the ubuntu logo has special copyrights [00:03] that should be fine imo [00:03] if its for you of course [00:03] asac: so you want me to diff everything excluding the /extensions/pref directory that included the gconf changes, right? [00:03] after this is packaged and uplaoded, we should evaluate the options [00:03] jimmy___: not sure ... i just want the default preference patch not to be in xulrunner-1.9 [00:03] (so its not enabled by default for all other xulrunner apps) [00:04] i think it was just a one line patch [00:04] ok asac, I try to find a solution for now and a better solution for the next version [00:04] Volans: good. can't we keep the icons like before with the copyright you suggested? [00:06] I was sure of the CC license for tango icons that I have substituted... for the LP or Ubuntu icons I'm not sure of the relative license, but a ubuntu logo is also in the gnome theme icon that is GPL ( /usr/share/icons/gnome/16x16/places/start-here.png ) [00:07] asac: i am still confused, you want a gconf patch for the UPSTREAM.3.x branch, but it is not enabled in the xulrunner? [00:08] jimmy___: the patch consists of lots of code, and a preference that enables the system proxy stuff [00:08] i want the code in the patch, but not the preference flip [00:08] i can also striip that out ... if its just that hunk that is too much :) [00:09] jimmy___: you see that pref? [00:14] asac: what patch are you talking about? the original gconf patch for the 2.0.0.x source? [00:24] jimmy___: i am talking about the patch we currently carry [00:24] e.g. UPSTREAM3.x vs. merge3.x [00:25] but just the gconf parts :) [00:25] ok [00:26] but where is the pref flip? i thought it is enabled by default [00:27] jimmy___: no idea :) ... we will see. just get all the gconf bits together. if there is no such flip its ok as well [00:27] by afaik its a preference we switched somewhere [00:28] but maybe thats in the midbrowser hierarchy [00:28] asac: http://www.moblin.org/repos/?p=projects/mobile-browser.git;a=commit;h=1af2c210c6c278234e5a9704d52111005a025c39 [00:29] this is the gconf patch [00:29] http://www.moblin.org/repos/?p=projects/mobile-browser.git;a=commit;h=ee1c1f2f3f065709af08cb02555c1f2f05d8cdd6 [00:30] that's all the files we've changed [00:30] jimmy___: yeah so maybe diff the files involved there [00:31] ok, i'll just diff those files then [00:32] jimmy___: http://www.moblin.org/repos/?p=projects/mobile-browser.git;a=blobdiff;f=modules/libpref/src/init/all.js;h=dbd2dc439f0bd6bb913641783803f37358c04469;hp=e86cc411e4ce4b2914fe68a345c72958df01e214;hb=ba7a782c2b71e565df7372eca6ae968e03f755e9;hpb=5def8c0ff75f49fe119ea4c021193307ca242c63 [00:32] thats the flip i ment [00:33] it landed in http://www.moblin.org/repos/?p=projects/mobile-browser.git;a=commit;h=ba7a782c2b71e565df7372eca6ae968e03f755e9 [00:33] which probably got then carried over until today [00:33] maybe see what diffing the files in that commit (if not yet in the other commits) yield now [00:35] yeah, that was the original patch we did for 2.0.0.6 [00:35] right ... and since we merged, we might still have those bits i guess [00:35] so include those files in the diff [00:35] and we hopefully have everything [00:37] ok [00:49] asac: I can't seems to connect to any secure sites https:// with my beta5 build. Got any idea? [01:02] asac: how do I send the patch file to u? [01:07] jimmy___: email to him [01:09] cwong1: libnss properly upgraded? i can visit launchpad [01:10] cwong1: works for both: system-xul + in-source xul build [01:11] cwong1: i can also login in gmail (which uses https as well for login i guess) [01:12] asac: I just downloaded the firefox 3.0 from the ppa and I have the same issue [01:12] cwong1: don't download ... add to sources.list and dist-upgrade [01:12] likely that you forgot something [01:12] cwong1: thats most likely a libnss thats too old [01:13] asac: I updated the sources.list and did apt-get update and apt-get upgrade [01:13] you need libnss3-1d libnss3-0d and libnss3-dev [01:13] which versions do you have for the ones above? [01:14] 0d is not required [01:14] I did dpkg -l libnss3 and is none [01:15] dpkg -l libnss3\* [01:15] should give you all [01:15] I see the following: [01:15] un libnss3 (no description available) [01:15] un libnss3-0d (no description available) [01:15] ii libnss3-1d 3.12.0~cvs2008 Network Security Service libraries [01:15] ii libnss3-dev 3.12.0~cvs2008 Development files for the Network Security S [01:15] COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l libnss3\* [01:15] gives you more context [01:16] but i guess that looks right [01:16] cwong1: did you build with or without system-xul? [01:17] asac: I use --with-libxul-sdk [01:17] that should do it right? [01:17] for mit works with xulrunner-1.9 1.9~b5~rc2* [01:18] and with the .mozconfig i sent you [01:19] cwong1: do you have more than one version of xulrunner in /usr/lib/ ? [01:19] but i doubt that thats it [01:19] yes I have multiple libxul in my directory [01:19] libxul? [01:20] what does ls -d /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9* give ? [01:20] and I use ac_add_options --with-libxul-sdk=$(ls -d /usr/lib/xulrunner-devel-1.9*) [01:20] yeah [01:20] is that un-ambigious? [01:20] it return /usr/lib/xulrunner-devel-1.9b5 [01:21] ok [01:21] what do you have in /etc/gre.d ? [01:21] cwong1: actually, maybe fire it up with strace -f -eopen ./midbrowser and see if the right xulrunner is really used [01:21] it has 1.9b4.system.conf 1.9b5.system.conf libxul0d.conf xulrunner.conf [01:23] how can I tell if I am using the right xulrunner? [01:23] from the strace I mean? [01:23] s/mean/meant/ [01:24] hmm apparently it copies the xulrunner files to dist ... so you can't [01:24] what a shame [01:24] but that means that it should pick up the right one [01:25] cwong1: what happens if you try to go to launchpad.net ? [01:25] just 1 sec [01:25] https://www.launchpad.net/ [01:26] it sits there and try to connect to it just like any other https sites [01:26] it will timeout eventually [01:27] how sure are you that you are not struck by any firewall bug :) ? [01:27] that is the next thing I am going to try [01:27] try that first ;) [01:27] ok chat with you later [01:27] i mean if even firefox-3 from that archive is broken its likely a network setup [01:27] thing [01:28] I need to do it from home to get a direct connection to internet.. :) [01:28] strange [01:28] but i see ;) [01:28] big company....paranoid..:( [01:31] hehe [01:42] asac: i emailed u the patch already [06:48] phoenix24: hi [06:48] phoenix24: did you see my comments/changes i did to the extension i uploaded? [07:39] Hi asac [07:40] Yes, I did see.. I was all fine with the changes, so did not reply. [07:40] I think I should have. [07:40] phoenix24: no thats fine. http://www.asoftsite.org/s9y/archives/132-firefox-3-extension-package-submission-deadline-reminder.html [07:41] phoenix24: just wanted to ensure that you read what i suggested [07:41] as i am particular bad in followin gup on bug mail for times :) [07:42] ok! [07:46] <[reed]> asac: [07:46] <[reed]> [09:02:52PM] hi, I noticed you checked in a fix to a DPI problem, bug 394103, that seems to revert everything to 96dpi. This is causing everything to be tiny on my 147DPI 1920x1200 screen. As a compromise for those who the DPI setting makes everything too big and people who have high DPI screens, there should be an option to set the default zoom level before any site specific zoom level. This would stop people from ha [07:46] <[reed]> ving to change the zoom level all the time for [07:46] <[reed]> [09:03:38PM] thanks for looking into this issue, you can contact me at rohitpid@gmail.com [07:50] [reed]: the font dpi can be overwritten from outside iirc [07:50] <[reed]> can you e-mail him? [07:54] who is he? [07:55] hmm, maybe i should comment on bug? [07:55] <[reed]> never heard of the guy [07:55] <[reed]> ;) [07:56] <[reed]> he just msg'd me on IRC [07:56] <[reed]> out of the blue [08:05] [reed]: ... he should then follow up on the bug ;) [08:06] <[reed]> well, can you comment in the bug, at least? [08:06] <[reed]> :) [08:06] yeah ... but only because location search is so easy nowadays :) [08:06] no need to remember bugid [08:11] [reed]: ok i commented a rather cryptic text [08:11] <[reed]> thanks [08:11] it doesn't answer his questin explicitly ... but if he reads carefully he might figure out [08:12] <[reed]> how nice of you [08:12] <[reed]> :p [08:12] [reed]: i had a hard time debugging why a generated langpack made firefox choke here [08:13] [reed]: do you have any idea how to get more detailed info to the console about parser issues (like undefined entittes) [08:13] ? [08:13] console aka gnome terminal [08:13] <[reed]> not off the top of my head, no... maybe #developers or #extdev on moznet? [08:20] yeah :) === asac_ is now known as asac [11:24] carlos: we have a bug for accesskeys: the msgid for accesskey-accept reads "accesskey-accept" (instead of "O") [11:25] but maybe thats already fixed? [11:25] afaik we don't special treat accesskeys anymore [11:25] asac: which files are you using now? [11:25] carlos: look in xulrunner-de.po [11:25] the ones I sent you last week? [11:25] carlos: hmm ... the one you gave me last week i think [11:26] I gave you a tarball link for firefox and xulrunner [11:26] yes i think that should be them [11:26] is it coming from there or the German file I prepare in my laptop? [11:26] carlos: i am 95% sure that its from the tarballs [11:26] i have a rather complete translation set here [11:26] hmm, then no, it's not fixed, because I didn't change the code [11:26] but I don't know how that would happen [11:27] e.g. xulrunner-de, xulrunner-xy and so on [11:27] so I think is not from hte tarball :-P [11:27] ;-) [11:27] #: en-US.xpi/en-US.jar!/locale/en-US/global/dialog.properties:5(accesskey-accept) [11:27] msgid "accesskey-accept" [11:27] msgstr "" [11:27] hmm [11:27] ok, there is a case when it may happen [11:27] that's different in the way we handle that in the old code [11:28] carlos: * remove alternative for xulrunner-addons in prerm as well [11:28] - update debian/mozilla-plugin-gnash.prerm [11:28] ups [11:28] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6355/ [11:28] thats the one [11:28] when for some reason we don't find the 'translation' used by the en-US [11:28] the files i have for xulrunner [11:28] asac: can we borrow carlos for a bit? [11:28] jtv: sure [11:28] asac: thanks :) [11:29] if you give him back ;) [11:29] later! :) [11:29] asac: btw, firefox and xulrunner are available in Hardy already [11:29] asac: see you later! [11:29] asac: I mean for translating using Ubuntu [11:30] carlos: can you give me rights so i can confirm the missing strings for german? [11:30] i would like to have one complete so i can see if there are bogus ui elements [11:30] asac: rights for what? [11:30] carlos: btw, it works :-D [11:31] carlos: to approve translations (for all those that currently hav two suggestions due to import clashes) [11:31] carlos: or who to ask? [11:31] right aka permissions ;) [11:31] anyway ... lets do that later when you have more time [11:34] asac: you don't have permissions to translate, but you should have permissions to see them and download them too [11:35] poor asac [11:55] carlos: yeah. thats why i ask whom to ask [11:55] ;) [11:56] asac: sorry, I didn't read your last part [11:56] asac: hmm [11:56] i just want them temporarily [11:56] to approve them once :) [11:56] and only for de ;) [11:56] ok, jtv just told me that he forgot to talk with you about it... [11:56] asac: sorry about that! [11:56] ? [11:57] asac: could you talk with mrevell about it so he prepares and sends an announcement to ubuntu-translators mailing list asking for such approval? [11:57] carlos: well i would like to do the test right now ;) [11:57] mrevell handles all the announcements from Launchpad team to our users [11:57] but i can talk to him ... sure [11:57] asac: which test? changing strings? [11:58] no ... having a complete translation ;) [11:58] to see if there are bits missing [11:58] well, we cannot do it automatically right now... [11:58] we need to fix the bug that produced it, which is not trivial and thus, nothing we can deploy before the end of the month [11:59] thats why i ask who i should ask so i can go through the german list manually and approve the right ones ;) [11:59] asac: oh, so you want it for a single language? [11:59] you understand what i ask for? [11:59] yes [11:59] yeah [11:59] i want de ... which is where i can check best if things are correct [11:59] if you are able to do such approval, I can give you such permissions [11:59] is that enough? [11:59] definitly [11:59] ok [12:00] just a second... [12:00] i go through them and once hardy is out ill ask for removal of that permissions ;) [12:00] asac: actually [12:00] translators already started doing that job ;-) [12:00] really? [12:00] https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/firefox-3.0/+pots/firefox/es/+translate [12:00] Spanish is already full translated [12:01] Swedish is near to be full translated (only 2 strings left) [12:01] https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/firefox-3.0/+pots/firefox [12:01] and xulrunner? [12:01] thats much more important [12:01] let me check... [12:01] no [12:01] no one started with xulrunner [12:02] https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/xulrunner-1.9/+pots/xulrunner [12:02] carlos: can you give me the permissions for now? [12:02] asac: btw, I had a problem with zh-TW.xpi I hope to get it fixed soon (no need to wait for the end of the month) [12:02] asac: yeah, I'm preparing that now [12:03] carlos: sure. a unicode issue? [12:03] no, the same problem I found, seems like I didn't fix it properly [12:03] a bug handling one of the comments [12:03] carlos: what makes me wonder is that there is often only one translation suggestion? [12:03] can't we use that by default (looks like its always right here) [12:04] https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/xulrunner-1.9/+pots/xulrunner/de/+translate?batch=10&show=untranslated [12:04] look for Host: [12:04] or Path: [12:04] asac: sorry, Carlos is very busy at the moment. I'll take over for a bit. [12:05] ok [12:05] no problem [12:05] asac: the idea sounds good. [12:05] doing lunch anyway [12:06] jtv: what is up with MODIFIER_SEPARATOR ... why is there a "+" as suggestion? [12:06] (in de for xulrunnre) [12:06] asac: isn't that one of those ids from the system-specific part? [12:07] jtv: yes [12:07] asac: then what happens is this: [12:07] mac/platformKeys.properties is in ctxt [12:07] We detect that there are multiple strings with the same msgid ("message key"). [12:07] So we give them different context strings. [12:07] yeah [12:08] Ah wait, you already know this. [12:08] i can follow for that [12:08] ;) [12:08] yeah [12:08] i just wonder why there is a "+" suggestion instead of nothing [12:08] So question: why would there not be a suggestion? [12:08] no ... why is there a "+" ;) [12:08] :-) [12:08] instead of nothing [12:09] Isn't there at least an "English translation" of that message somewhere? [12:09] Maybe even outside the platform-specific directories? [12:09] https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/xulrunner-1.9/+pots/xulrunner/de/+translate?show=untranslated&start=10 [12:09] the top most [12:09] English: MODIFIER_SEPARATOR .. Suggetsions: + [12:09] looking... [12:11] asac: the Unix and Windows versions of that string are translated. [12:11] So that's where the suggestion is coming from. [12:11] They happen to be identical, which is why you see only one of them popping up as a suggestion here. [12:11] The suggestions code looks for identical msgids, but ignores the difference in context. [12:12] the unix and windows version have a 'x' as translation? [12:12] aeh '+' [12:13] anyway .. doing lunch now [12:13] Yes, they do. Bon appétit! [12:39] jtv: can you add me to the german translators/contributors? or did carlos already do that and i have no clue where to look in LP :) ? [12:39] asac: just a moment, I'll have a look. [12:40] asac: I think you should have those permissions already [12:40] asac: you're the owner of the template, so that should give you privileges. [12:40] asac: we may be mistaken... have you tried? [12:40] hmm ... on the left i only see overview, translate, upload a file and download [12:41] and when going to translate i can only add new suggestions [12:41] like: https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/firefox-3.0/+pots/firefox/de/+translate [12:41] asac: Ah. Problem is, we don't run the German translators team. [12:41] hmm [12:42] who does? [12:42] asac: don't know off the top of my head. Have to look up the team. [12:43] asac: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-de [12:47] how unfortunate :( i pinged smurf for now [12:49] Best we can do for now I'm afraid. [12:55] jtv: how long does it usually take after requesting a download and receiving the mail? [12:57] asac: usually, very briefly. At the moment, we're catching up from a problem we had over the weekend. [12:57] ok [12:57] asac: a fix is being tested right now. [12:57] ill wait a bit longer then ;) [12:57] oh [13:56] any change Firefox 3b5 will be in the Hardy-repos today or tomorrow - or can I download a Ubuntu Hardy package somewhere else in the meantime? [13:58] jeroen-: why so eager? [14:00] we will upload asap [14:00] asac: because b5 will be released today and I like to try it out, but its better to wait for the ubuntu stuff [14:01] ok thanks [14:01] jeroen-: we have an archive, but i'd advice to stay on plain hardy given that the upload will happen very soon [14:01] asac: is very soon today? [14:01] or else I just use the version in the archive [14:02] more like tomorrow [14:02] I'm not a newbie [14:02] https://edge.launchpad.net/~fta/+archive [14:02] so I can handle any glitches [14:02] thats the archive [14:02] ok tnx [14:02] but we have a nss version screw in there [14:02] so remember to reinstall the version that landin hardy in a few days [14:02] a what? [14:02] and remove that archive [14:02] ok, it will not do that automaticaly [14:02] jeroen-: the version is too high so you won't auto upgrade to hardy [14:03] aha [14:03] yes [14:03] ok [14:03] I understand [14:03] its just nss and maybe nspr [14:03] but its the same binary? [14:03] just remember if you have issues in the future that you have the nss/nspr version from hardy before reporting a bug [14:03] jeroen-: in the archive its b5~rc2 ... which is identical to what gets released [14:03] I will reinstall in a few days [14:03] ok [14:04] thanks [14:27] asac: I see one bug [14:27] tested with a clean profile [14:28] I can't see a list in preferences > applications - allthough I added one as a test [14:33] yes thats known [14:34] ok thanks [14:37] jeroen-: do you have xulrunner gnome-support installed? [14:41] asac: no, I am running in Kubuntu [14:46] asac: I tested it with en_US version from ftp.mozilla.org and that seems to work [14:46] should I install xulrunner gnome-support (1.9) ? [14:46] yeah [14:46] no [14:47] ok [14:47] it doesn't help [14:47] its on my TODOs [14:47] ok, good luck with it asac [15:02] asac: I'm back, with the license problem of the day :D [15:03] the gnome theme icons are GPL without any exception: /usr/share/doc/gnome-icon-theme/copyright [15:03] but... /usr/share/icons/gnome/16x16/places/start-here.png is the Ubuntu logo... [15:04] thus I can use it without any problem? [15:08] Volans: is it part of the gnome-icon-theme package? [15:08] I'm not sure, I will check if is in the source package [15:08] Volans: ok just use that for now [15:09] if someone complains we can react [15:09] Volans: yes, please check the source [15:15] in the tar.gz of the source package there is the start-here.png icon but is the Gnome foot icon... not Ubuntu [16:23] asac: in the source package there is the gnome logo, in the .deb package there is the ubuntu logo, then is at compiling time that automagically the logo changes :) [16:23] yeah [16:23] maybe I can do the same? [16:24] i think its dirty [16:24] you should just grant an exception :) [16:24] then you can copy [16:24] the only thing is that I need all the 4 logos (ub, kub, xub, edub) at one time [16:24] but without adapting the license is a bi harsh [16:24] you can build-depend on multiple packages (whatever include the required) [17:53] hi === fta_ is now known as fta [17:58] [reed], why is mozilla bug 423334 shifting to posix_memalign ? [17:58] Mozilla bug 423334 in XPCOM "crash at startup in [@ NS_CompareVersions] when using --with-libxul-sdk" [Critical,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=423334 [19:19] asac, do you think we should release b5 with the gnome helper bug and print to pdf crash ? I'm kind of reluctant [19:39] fta: no print crash here [19:55] hm [19:59] asac, go to the forums and print that in a pdf [20:00] on launchpad, it works, on the forums, it crashes 100% [20:05] fta: and upstream build works? [20:06] fta: i can print a forum thread to pdf [20:07] i can't [20:07] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=742334 [20:07] upstream build works [20:07] that works [20:08] i have 54 tabs... [20:09] try to reproduce with a single tab open [20:09] maybe its flash related [20:09] your url crashes, it even crashes gdb [20:11] hm, no crash with a fresh profile [20:13] fta: plugin/extension ? ;) [20:29] all extensions disabled => crash [20:33] i've deleted extension* and plugin* in my profile => crash [20:37] asac, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=737666 [20:37] that why I tried in the 1st place [20:38] i think we'll upload tomorrow [20:38] i guess i can fix the applications dialog at least [20:46] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6377/ [20:49] http://people.mozilla.com/~polvi/threedom/status-bars.html [20:58] fta: are you running hardy cairo? [20:59] yes [20:59] fta@ix:~ $ apt-cache madison cairo [20:59] cairo | 1.5.14-0ubuntu2 | http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main Sources [21:12]