[00:00] the two ti [00:00] tu [00:00] LjL, no other comments [00:00] I am going to lie down and sleep [00:00] ta [00:16] mneptok: wow... [00:27] watch unsungloser, i suspect a troll [00:27] (#u) [00:59] <-- bascule [01:03] hi [01:03] sarah__* is, imho, trolling: [01:03] [Sat Mar 29 2008] [21:58:04] !security | sarah___ [01:03] [Sat Mar 29 2008] [21:58:12] !security [01:03] [Wed Apr 2 2008] [02:02:30] !security | sarah____ [01:03] keep an eye [01:03] I just got MrUnagi saying he accidentally got in to kubuntu cause of an auto-join [01:03] OK [01:03] sculework: that wasn't to you :) [01:03] OK, chuckle [01:04] sculework: yes i noticed, i see he parted though. [01:04] he was wondering on the ban status and wasn't wanting to further the ban evading difficulty [01:04] so I am asking for him [01:05] bascule, the ban status is basically that no matter how hard he tries to deny it, i just can't believe someone saying " <---- mrunagi" is not, well, mrunagi [01:05] I doubt it's lifted, I just wanted to let people know that he was not there 'dileberately' [01:06] swap e and i of course .. sorry [01:06] sculework, that was clear enough from the fact he parted [01:06] OK [01:07] sculework: and, he's not banned because he's using his other connection, i believe [01:07] I see, I will let him know that, thanks for your time [01:07] I have nothing else [01:28] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (clone flood) [01:29] hah [01:29] well, that was interesting [01:29] what, when [01:29] :) [01:29] nothing happened [01:45] meh, wth does my connection have [01:45] my bots all fell in turns [01:47] nalioth, the fellow in ##linux is doing it again [01:47] meh nm [02:12] In ubotu, Pici said: tutorial is training [02:13] * Pici forgot to @login [02:13] * LjL @logins pici [02:15] LjL: I had to remove your warning about asking silly questions in +1, the release notes link was getting cut off. [02:16] Pici: eh, wasn't my warning :) [02:17] that was a pretty nice joke in the topic :) [02:17] nikrud: no soul fell for it [02:17] methinks rot13'd pastebin wins anyway [02:17] well, automatix upload too [02:17] heh. 3 months is too long, but 2 feels ok [02:18] damn you, jdong [02:18] Hobbsee: now i didn't want to recall sore memories [02:18] FOOL [02:19] hehe [02:19] someone actually bit on the automatix thing? [02:19] i think i'll remove jdong's upload rights as an april fools thing, too. and just not put them back [02:19] * nikrud is now frightened of the pointy sticks [02:20] nikrud: just now? [02:20] only now. I see just how evi^W assertive some people can be ;) [02:22] * Hobbsee has to be assertive. [02:23] i like when you order me around, baby. [02:23] someone has to. I'll just stay outside of your peripheral vision :) [02:24] What happened to the IRSeek bot in #ubuntu? [02:24] it got klined. [02:24] Is this april fools? [02:24] i think they're having connection issues [02:24] no [02:24] The bot was excess flooding earlier today. [02:24] It's wonderful! [02:24] it kept excess flooding [02:25] yesterday too. i removed the forward to ##f_y_c too early [02:25] Fine Young Cannibals? [02:25] oh, so it's only temp-klined [02:25] mneptok: don't make me make up mine [02:25] Getting rid of the IRSeekBot is a great step in the right direction. I think a lot of people will be happy and more cooperative now. [02:25] canuck? [02:26] See you all later. [02:26] emma: I wouldnt read too much into it.... [02:26] meh [02:26] bah [02:26] lol, what a part message [02:26] she missed the part about temporary? [02:27] nikrud: i think she;s hot for you, dude! TOHLLY ASK HER OUT! [02:27] somebody send me a cheese omelette. [02:27] yup, that one definitely includes canuck (honorary) [02:29] mneptok I am accused of having a perverted sense of humor, but I do bow to the master ;p [02:29] * mneptok polishes his halo demurely [02:30] nikrud: mneptok is the pervert here [02:30] Thanks for ridding ircseekbot :) [02:31] ... [02:31] Taylor: it is not "gone" [02:31] hehahahe [02:31] it will be back [02:31] nalioth: it's not k-lined? [02:31] nalioth I know. We have been mastered [02:32] Taylor, it's k-lined because it was malfunctioning, simply that. [02:32] Taylor: Its only k-lined for technical difficulties, not policy changes. [02:32] ah [02:33] now I want a cheese omelette [02:34] * mneptok gently flips pleia2 [02:34] oof [02:34] pleia2: I could try sending one, but I think I'd have trouble getting the egg out of the scanner. [02:34] Pici: thanks anyway :) [02:38] Pici: my GF and i don't have children for the same reason [02:41] !ops NOTICE - the IRSeek bot was malfunctioning and got temporarily K-lined because of that. there is NO decision on anyone's part about it, that we're aware of. [02:41] I'll remember that, LjL [02:42] now *that's* a factoid [02:44] wasn't intended as such but shrug [02:44] just make it clear to anyone who may ask [03:19] !tab | nikrud that must be annoying [03:19] nikrud that must be annoying: You can use for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line. [03:19] lol [03:19] amusing mostly [03:20] I do enjoy helping the real beginners, :) [03:20] Me too [03:20] yes, I remember when you were one ;-P [03:20] :P [03:42] !info is broken! [03:42] Package is does not exist in gutsy [03:42] yes! [03:43] haha. ubotu is getting creaky, showing his age. Memory gone [03:46] !info vrms [03:46] Package vrms does not exist in gutsy [03:47] he uses Gnewsense [03:47] vrms I've always loved that package [04:09] Do we have an IRC Council meeting scheduled for any time in the near or not so near future? [04:09] * Pici is curious [04:12] * nikrud wonders when the last one was [04:50] 23:48 -!- crew [n=chatzill@sc-wireless-pittnet-105.wireless.pitt.edu] has joined #ubuntuforums [04:50] 23:49 < crew> Hey where all da white women at?? [04:50] is this hostmask familiar to staffers? [05:37] since when do the floodbots grant mibbit ban exemptions, and how? [05:46] they have for a while now, since a mibbit rep came here and asked [05:49] how do they decide who to exempt? [05:51] I think they just monitor #ubuntu-proxy-users for mibbit users [05:55] stdin: it would appear that you're right. [06:37] Hi, I'm here to report a pm invitation to join a 'free-wheeling unregulated' ubuntu channel. [06:38] * nalioth wonders which one that is . . . [06:39] sparklehistory: if the channel name begins with "#sparkly-" i'm in! [06:39] * mneptok crosses fingers for "-ponies" [06:39] * tonyyarusso banforwards mneptok to ##shiny-objects [06:40] On March 5 from either #ubuntu or #ubuntu-offtopic (Sorry, I don't remember for sure) emma private messaged me and asked if I wanted to join/idle in a free-wheeling unregulated ubuntu channel. After clarifying that this was not the same sort of idea as -offtopic I declined. I believe the channel in mind was ##ubuntu-uncensored but I'm not entirely sure. [06:40] march 5? [06:40] yes [06:40] that's like 1834 in IRC years [06:40] :) [06:41] tonyyarusso said I should report it after I mentioned it to him in another conversation [06:41] mneptok: true, but the issue at hand is equivalent to infant diarrhea in that case (still going on today) [06:41] i tip my hat to your log-fu [06:41] tonyyarusso: except less pleasant [06:42] right [06:42] if it was in fact ##Ubuntu-uncensored, that is no Ubuntu channel [06:42] I have the log if necessary but there really isn't anything more in there than what I just posted. [06:43] http://pastebin.ca/P1Cscp4P [06:43] It is encrypted so I can message the password to anyone who wants it [06:43] me? [06:44] * mneptok has mostly, and hopefully will, stay out of the emma ... "unpleasantness" [06:45] * nalioth steals mneptoks hip waders [06:45] sparklehistory: but feel free to join #sparkle-ponies. i just made it as a place to escape from the typical Ubuntu channels. or discussion of them. or discussion of discussion of Ubuntu channels. or reality. [06:46] that ... probably shoul;d have been a PM [06:46] for that touch of class [06:47] mneptok, thanks, I'll keep that in mind! Sounds interesting... [06:49] * nalioth goes to see about the ponies [06:50] whee! [06:51] a boy and his pony [06:51] Is anything more needed from me? [06:55] Thanks! [07:03] In #ubuntu+1, crhylov1 said: ubotu: That link is broken. [07:07] I'm always amazed at how many people think that sh!7 is acceptable language. [07:07] I like the way the channel is defending itself [07:09] Pici: fsck'n a right. [07:09] pft [07:09] evening all [07:09] mneptok come to LA (if you can get across the border, I'll buy you a few beers ;) [07:10] hmm, Freenode's little bio on clarke.freenode.net's MotD is out of date. Doesn't have his date of death. [07:10] welcome back Madpilot [07:10] Madpilot: people with Freenode servers named after them don't die. [07:10] nikrud: i'm a Merkin. from CT by way of Philly and DC and Portland, OR. [07:11] they simply devote all of their resources to IRC. [07:11] kind of like Ubuntu ops, but more so. [07:11] tonyyarusso, heh [07:11] mneptok I know that. Figured you fled the law. Anyway, I think we'd have a bit of fun, trying to make the other puke [07:11] nalioth, thanks. Haven't been spending much time on IRC the last few months [07:12] nikrud: in LA? you got the easy win. [07:12] nikrud, ops drinking games. Every mistaken pasteflood, one shot. Troll, two shots. Ban evader, finish the bottle. :) [07:12] drumroll [07:13] Madpilot: I foresee very drunk ops somewhere near the end of April. [07:13] tonyyarusso: May, more like. [07:13] tonyyarusso, you weren't planning on facing release day *sober*, were you? [07:13] (depending on UDS attendance) [07:13] either that or brain dead ones [07:14] slippage? not very suprised [07:14] Madpilot: well, I normally don't drink, and release is on a school/work day, so yes. [07:15] tonyyarusso, this is why $deity invented sick days. And alcohol. :) [07:15] tonyyarusso so we'll use root beer shots. Sugar sickness, but still sober ;) [07:16] sugar high ftw!! [07:17] * jussi01 gets out the red cordial... [07:17] nikrud: haha, that works, kinda [08:25] dang, ubotu is actually spritely [08:27] should we announce is an unnamed channel that irseek is back? [08:27] or not [08:28] eh, let them notice themselves. [08:28] it just flooded itself out again [08:32] it's not doing it as badly as t'other day [08:33] nalioth when do you sleep? (at least I hope you do) [08:34] * nikrud goes to bed [08:34] nikrud, nalioth is some form of revenant. Honest. :) === Seveaz is now known as Seveas [12:01] ubotu excess flood ? wtf? [12:02] heh :) === Seveaz is now known as Seveas === elkbuntu_ is now known as elkbuntu [12:46] Lamego called the ops in #ubuntu () [12:46] Seveas, ping [12:47] Mez, pang [12:47] Seveas, can ubotu be made to watch for channel leave messages like "Requested by .*: !factoid" [12:47] and then send the factoid on the removal. [12:48] file a bug, nice idea :) [12:48] report link ? [12:48] hm? [12:48] !bugs [12:48] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots [12:49] Mez: ^ [12:49] ah, my brain is slow [12:51] bug 210769 [12:52] 210769 [12:52] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots/+bug/210769 [12:52] Launchpad bug 210769 in ubuntu-bots "[REQUEST] Scanning /remove messages for factoids" [Undecided,New] [12:52] LjL, ping [12:56] LjL, unping [16:01] -!- flea [n=blia@12.52.181.4] has left #ubuntu ["this channel of noobs"] [16:01] username flea pretty sulky / rude part message [16:07] ikonia: somoone seen to it [16:07] ? [16:07] don't think so [16:07] I thought jrib did, but it was my mistake he didn't [16:07] the guy just parted in a sulk and put that part mesage, pretty pathetic [16:08] 4ta [16:08] ta [16:08] jpatrick: ? [16:08] In ubotu, erUSUL said: inetsharing is If you want to share the internet connection of your ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharing. you can also use !firestarter (http://www.fs-security.com/docs/connection-sharing.php). [16:11] erUSUL: hola [16:11] jpatrick: hola [16:12] jpatrick: has my factoid been added ? [16:13] erUSUL: not yet [16:14] :| ;P [17:07] launchpad just launched openid... [17:07] are they going to be yet another provider... or will they let me sign in using my existing openid...? [17:08] "Unfortunately, not at this time. Launchpad is currently an OpenID Provider (OP) and not a consumer (RP). " [17:09] grrrrrr [17:09] What is the point in openid if everything's only going to be a provider. [17:10] collecting users is a web2.0 hobby, it seems [17:19] what's next? twitter plugin for fixing bugs? [17:19] "omgz just wrote a line of patch" [17:19] "oops called patch with wrong argument" [17:19] "stupid tab complete" [17:21] * PriceChild wonders why his openid url becomes launchpad.net/~id/ [17:22] beta [17:22] so your browser history can contain even more private data. [17:23] aha https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/199069 [17:23] Launchpad bug 199069 in launchpad "User profile pages should not be OpenID identities" [High,Confirmed] [17:23] Hello! Are any of you also an op at ubuntuforums.org? Would it be possible for you to delete one of my threads? Thanks! [17:24] erm... "The plan is not to talk about it." [17:24] talk to PriceChild, I've gotta run to class [17:24] Odd-rationale: linky? (you can normally find us in #ubuntuforums [17:25] PriceChild: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=740601 [17:26] Odd-rationale: if your network administrator is blocking something, ubuntu's support is *not* the place for getting around it. [17:27] Odd-rationale: I assume he found that thread, or you're scared of him finding it? [17:27] PriceChild: chilinski already helped me out via pm [17:28] PriceChild: My problem is soved. [17:28] PriceChild: I would like that the thread be deleted if possible... [17:28] Wasn't what I asked. [17:29] PriceChild: No he hasn't found it yet. And probably would not look for it. But just to be safe.... :) [17:29] I think PriceChild is asking *why* you need it deleted, since its not normally policy to delete threads without reason. [17:29] s/reason/good reason/ [17:29] Odd-rationale: Ubuntu is pro-freedom, not anti-microsoft. [17:30] PriceChild: I understand that. But ms is rather anti freedom [17:31] not really, but they are pro-lotsofmoney [17:31] Not really my point though [17:31] Pici: ok. The reason would be so that it is no longer available on the net. And no one would be able to find it. But if it is against the policy to delete threads then let it be. it is alright. [17:32] I'm just trying to mediate here, I have no affiliation with the forums. [17:33] Pici: oh ok. mediate? we're not having a debate :) [17:33] Odd-rationale: In the future, it might be wise to remeber that things on the internet tend to say on the internet [17:33] *stay [17:33] mc44: true [17:33] whatever happens on the internet, stays in google [17:34] s/google/irseek/ [17:34] If you cannot delete the thread for whatever reason, you can just say so. I am alright with that. [17:34] in case of forums it's google :) [17:34] I was just asking a favor [17:34] and for most of ubuntu's channels as well [17:35] at least IrseekBot announces itself, googles IRC spy doesn't [17:36] Thats what robots.txt is for [17:36] PriceChild: If you cannot delete the thread for whatever reason, you can just say so. I am alright with that. [17:37] Seveas: Google just stores all internet traffic! [17:39] You have my request. I'll leave the rest to your descretion. Thanks a lot all. Have a good day. [17:50] I removed the thread immediately after he asked for anyone that's interested, I didn't approve of it in the first place, nevermind whether we delete threads or not. [17:57] PriceChild: I figured you or someone else did, since I couldnt get to it. [18:01] In ubotu, erUSUL said: inetsharing is If you want to share the internet connection of your ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharing. you can also use !firestarter (http://www.fs-security.com/docs/connection-sharing.php). [18:04] !inetsharing > erUSUL [18:05] also aliased to !ics [18:15] Pici: thanks much ;) [18:15] Surely. [20:00] ubotu, ping [20:00] #^$%@#*$&# === Dave2 is now known as Dave3 === _Dave2_ is now known as Dave2 [20:20] [21:15:30] *** FloodBot1 sets mode: -o PriceChild [20:20] no, not really, what the hell is this [20:22] !test | ForLag [20:22] ForLag: Failed. === tonyyarusso is now known as anthony === anthony is now known as tonyyarusso [20:44] PriceChild: my blog is a consumer :) not quite sure if it's working yet, but that's the idea [20:44] after that part message, I think I'll just go back to using none [20:53] ubotu's staying off for a while [20:54] server's hitting OOM, dunno why [20:54] naughty [21:03] oom? [21:03] as in, botty go boom? [21:04] yeah [21:23] thanks nalioth [21:38] had to restart the box [21:38] found the OOM condition [21:40] Seveas: been meditating? [21:44] tonyyarusso/jpatrick out-of-memory [21:44] google for oom-killer [21:44] but it's probably not ubotu causeing it so I'll bring it back [21:45] sounds evil.. [21:47] jpatrick, basically, you run out of memory and the kernel kills the process that malloc()s the final bits and a bit more [21:47] which isn't necessarily the memory chewing one [22:06] Seveas, so can you log what the last 40 -pids were [22:06] so when it kicks in again you might see a pattern i.e. the guilty party [22:08] Seveas: Have you put anything new on the server? [22:09] Seveas: that's not true, the oom killer is smarter than that [22:11] Seeker`, hardy :) [22:11] ah, quite a bit then [22:11] how much memory does the server have? [22:14] only 1g [22:15] and mysql and apache are fighting for it [22:15] got apache sort-of under control [22:15] but why the F* does mysql want 137MB [22:15] right from the start [22:15] it is playing the MS game - gime ram you ain't using it? [22:16] :/ [22:16] Seveas, stick it in a jail of some sort - selinux and keep it below a 1/4 [22:17] neh, I'd rather config it correctly [22:17] kinda need it :) [22:17] so what additional parts did you launch [22:18] some sucky api most likely going "YIPPPEEEEE ME GOTZ RAMZ" [22:18] lolpip [22:18] woo [22:18] lolpid [22:19] i'm in ur apache, stealin your ramz [22:19] lagggg [22:19] yesterday the problem was far, far worse [22:20] then I did s/postfix+amavis+clamav+spamassassin/exim+spamassassin/ [22:20] gave me back my cpu's [22:20] now for the memory [22:20] cpus? [22:20] 2 [22:21] all speed no place to putz the dataz [22:23] I want a terabyte of ram [22:23] for what? (I tried not to swear in the middle of those words) [22:23] not sure that I succeeded [22:24] because then the space/time tradeoff for my coursework wont be an issue [22:24] because i'll have all the space I need :) [22:25] just as things expand to fill shelf space data expands to fill the ram [22:26] ompaul: But this is a valid reason for using this much ram :) [22:26] dono ask google [22:27] ompaul: Generating every possible combination of assembly instructions takes up quite a bit of ram [22:28] Seeker`, a terabyte hmmm if you think so [22:28] ompaul: well, I have an algorithm that means you only require a small subset [22:29] for certain values of small [22:30] Seeker`, you could bz2 the data and have a database point to the combination of links [22:30] :) [22:30] I still dont think it would fit in a reasonable amount of RAM [23:59] LjL: you didn't -r