bryceok, revert dialog seems to work, although my devel box for some reason borks up when setting to a lower resolution.  Only piece of hw I have that does that though.  Odd.05:15
brycetjaalton: I see you've already been active on bug 184651, so probably already know about the patch attached to it, but in case not, I wanted to make mention of it08:10
ubotuLaunchpad bug 184651 in xorg-server "Crash when starting gnome-settings-daemon" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18465108:10
tjaaltonit's fixed upstream, and the patch is in debian too and was on my local tree08:10
brycethat bug got mentioned at the distro team meeting as high priority by evand and cjwatson (who are on one of the dupes of that bug )08:10
tjaaltonshouldn't it have been milestoned then?-)08:10
brycehmm, seems to be milestoned08:11
tjaaltonah, right08:14
bryceseb128: http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/Testing/XrandrGui/xrandrgui-04.png08:16
seb128hey bryce08:16
seb128ah, nice!08:16
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bryceseb128: patches, packages, and debs posted to bug #19767310:48
ubotuLaunchpad bug 197673 in gnome-control-center "gnome-display-properties should revert change automatically if not acknowledged" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19767310:48
seb128bryce: excellent10:48
bryceneeds testing next10:48
bryceit would be nice to get the gnome-desktop patch uploaded, because it's a dependency for the other two.10:50
brycealso, don't forget the three updated patches at http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/Testing/XrandrGui/10:51
brycethese also need integrated/tested.10:51
seb128bryce: well, you have upload rights now ;-)10:53
seb128bryce: do you want me to test those and upload if that works correctly on my hardy?10:53
seb128bryce: 'night10:54
ubotuNew bug: #210646 in xorg-server "After xorg and gtk updates many programs run extremely slow" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21064611:16
ubotuNew bug: #210652 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "[Hardy] ltmodem driver missing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21065211:16
ubotuNew bug: #210660 in compiz (main) "compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV when attempting to switch users (dup-of: 160264)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21066011:18
ubotuNew bug: #210390 in xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd (universe) "unable to rotate screen using gnome-display-properties" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21039011:19
denndabryce: I am sorry for not being very responsive. I am still a bit busy but I hope we can start working on debugging tomorrow11:46
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ubotuNew bug: #210740 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "gnome-display-properties: resolution change does not do anything for internal notebook display" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21074012:31
ubotuNew bug: #210780 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "X slower after upgrade to 4GB RAM" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21078013:36
ubotuNew bug: #208428 in ubiquity (main) "Ubuntu does not install (dup-of: 184651)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20842815:21
ubotuNew bug: #210830 in xdm (universe) "[hardy] XDM: huge font size" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21083015:41
bryceseb128_: with the three updated patches, what needs to happen is to replace the corresponding patches in the three packages, and then update all the other patches as needed since some of the code changes may cause minor breakage.16:15
seb128_bryce: ok16:15
brycedennda: ok no prob, yeah I know how it goes re:busy.  16:15
seb128_bryce: could you try to remove debug g_print calls in those patches? I would like to not have .xsession-errors flooded with non issues in hardy16:16
bryceseb128_: by "the three updated patches" I mean the redhat patches I posted at http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/Testing/XrandrGui/, not the revert dialog patches16:17
seb128_let's go by steps and get the revert changes in first16:17
brycethe revert dialog patches aren't ready for upload yet - in addition to the g_print() calls there's at least one situation I know of that will cause it to not work right16:18
seb128_also I commented on the bug, I just had a quick look to the gnome-desktop one16:18
brycewell, if you can work on the new redhat patches, I can continue work on the revert dialog to get that done in the meantime, and then help in with what remains for the redhat patches16:19
seb128_you like file in the return false cases16:19
seb128_in what order do you want to do things?16:19
seb128_update to current redhat versions first16:19
seb128_and then do the undo?16:19
bryceI think the revert dialog should get uploaded first; it's almost done.  I expect once the new redhat stuff is packaged we'll need to test it a day or so16:20
seb128__sorry sucking dsl line today16:23
seb128__<seb128_> ok16:24
seb128__ btw you need to rebase your gnome-desktop changes on the current hardy version16:24
seb128__ the upload was only a shlibs update16:24
seb128__ so no conflict there, just the changelog and the .shlibs which changed16:24
seb128__bryce: ^ dunno if you got that before the disconnect16:24
bryceoh ok, I'd checked the base before I started but it must have been updated in the meantime16:24
seb128__yes, I did update yesterday to fix a bug16:25
ubotuNew bug: #210861 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "X server crashes when compiz is enabled and I try to use -vo xv in MPlayer" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21086116:35
denndabryce: In which language is the new gnome-display-properties written?17:40
denndaI can't seem to find the source17:41
dennda(I am experiencing quite a few bugs and I'd love to help fixing all of them)17:41
seb128dennda: C17:43
seb128dennda: apt-get source gnome-control-center17:43
denndadon't know C yet, unfortunately17:44
denndawas hoping it was python17:44
brycemost of the meat of the code is actually in gnome-desktop17:46
brycedennda: well if you care to learn C, I'm available to answer questions17:46
denndabryce: I do, but that'll be some point in the future. Many things to do at the moment17:47
denndabut thanks17:47
denndaHm are there patches for X3100 still in the queue? (Video has some bugs with compiz enabled)17:54
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brycephoronix test suite released (GPLv3)21:35
tormodhi there! I find it alarming how many GL screensavers are crashing nowadays, see https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xscreensaver/ Of course most of them are nvidia and fglrx...21:53
tjaaltonhey, I've witnessed matrixview hanging my coworkers desktop :)21:54
tjaaltonon nvidia21:54
bryceyeah I've just triaged all the -fglrx bugs, and it seems there are a lot of DRI/DRM/GLX type of issues21:56
brycefrom the limited amount I've dug into them, I wonder if a kernel module is missing or something21:56
bryceI cut the number of -fglrx bugs in l-r-m by half :-)21:57
tormodwouldn't a missing module just disable DRI and actually avoid the crashes?21:57
brycewell you'd think so21:57
bryceI'm not really sure though - like I said I didn't dig into any of the bugs very far21:58
brycetormod: btw ati has been bugging me for our "top 5 bugs", so if you have some to suggest, I can pass them up the chain21:58
tormod(wildly guessing) could it be a compiler issue, some new defaults, broken optimizations etc?21:58
bryceI'm guessing they'll just say it's not their problem (kernel issue) or some such, but maybe then we'd have more info21:58
brycean ABI issue would be more likely I'd guess21:59
tormodati? as in Alex and Dave?21:59
bryceI don't really know enough about how the fglrx<->kernel integration is set up to say21:59
tormodor AMD?21:59
bryceah, I mean the ATI engineers inside AMD who develop fglrx22:00
tormodhard to pick the "top 5" since no reports have a useful backtrace22:01
tormodthey could have a look at my xscreensaver link above22:02
bryceyeah that's my thought too22:03
jcristauof course they don't have a useful backtrace, it's proprietary crap22:03
brycejcristau: well sometimes the surrounding X calls have some clues22:03
brycebut unfortunately most of the auto-gathered ones in launchpad don't even have that, so they're even more useless than usual ;-)22:04
Ngtjaalton: do you ever see a green console before/after suspend?22:04
tjaaltonNg: I've seen that yes22:04
Ngit started happening on mine a couple of days ago and has done on every subsequent suspend/resume (I've not rebooted yet)22:05
tjaaltonI'll check again after -13 is usable22:05
brycetormod: heh, can you see all the private crash bugs in xscreensaver?22:06
bryceyou're not kidding about there being a ton of crash bugs22:06
tormodbryce: no, ah don't tell me I just see the top of the iceberg22:06
Ngtjaalton: don't spose there's anything I can do while it's like this, is there? I really need to reboot to get an unoopsed kernel so I can get some debugging info for another bug ;/22:07
Ngtjaalton: s/do/do to debug this/, that is22:07
brycetormod: there's another 9 marked private.  I'll unprivate them22:08
tjaaltonNg: I'm not sure.. maybe -13 is better since there were some changes related to drm22:10
brycethere we go22:10
tormodthere are also some r300 and radeon crashes. Is apport working better than before?22:10
bryceI'd talked with pitti about it a couple weeks ago; apparently it had broken and stopped doing it's work correctly, but he kicked it and said it should work properly now22:11
tormodbryce: that might explain why these crashes started to flood a few days ago22:12
tormodbtw why is "cdrom" listed in NonfreeKernelModules?22:13
Ngtjaalton: ok22:13
brycetormod: heh I noticed that too.  nfi22:13
brycemaybe this has to do with it?  http://www.mail-archive.com/dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net/msg32430.html22:15
ubotuNew bug: #209414 in ubuntu "Atheros 5007 reported incorrectly as "Atheros Communications, Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01) " on Amilo 1718li Laptop in Hardy Heron Beta (dup-of: 182489)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20941422:15
bryceoooh, that could explain the performance bugs we got too22:16
ubotuNew bug: #210749 in xorg (main) "Openoffice spreadsheet crashes x" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21074922:17
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tormodamd64 seems to be overrepresented.22:21
bryceI've noticed a surprising number of amd64 bugs in general22:22
tormodThis gives a good overview: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xscreensaver/?field.searchtext=crashed+with&orderby=title22:27
bryceare you able to reproduce the problem?  I'd be interested to hear if setting Option "AIGLX" "off"  has any effect22:33
bryceit's weird, when I search on "[fglrx]" in xscreensaver, only 3 bugs come up22:33
tormodbryce: search and sort in LP has been broken for ages22:34
tormodyou have to make the URL yourself, like I did above.22:34
bryce12 bugs - https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xscreensaver/?field.searchtext=fglrx&orderby=title22:35
ubotuNew bug: #211043 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "could not find module b43" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21104322:36
brycehrmph, these backtraces are less than useful.  All I can tell is it has something to do with GL in fglrx22:38
bryceand you're right; amd64 is overrepresented22:39
tormodyes there are also some [r300 amd64] crashes22:40
brycehm, bug 179042 maybe?22:40
ubotuLaunchpad bug 179042 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 "[fglrx] fglrx, compiz and opengl conflict" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17904222:40
tormodanyone here having that combination?22:40
brycehere's another, that got put into l-r-m already - 18112122:42
bryceprobably all those xscreensaver bugs could be duped onto that one22:42
tormodbug #18112122:43
ubotuLaunchpad bug 181121 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 "[fglrx] glplanet crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18112122:43
tormodwhat do you mean it got put into l-r-m?22:44
tormodoh I got it22:45
tormoddo you have a bughelper script to do mass-reassigning?22:46
brycesorry, that was a GL game not a screensaver, but it looks like the same issue22:46
bryceno, but bdmurray does22:46
tormodglplanet is also a screensaver22:46
tjaaltontormod: no I mean that according to the changelog the driver manager doesn't recommend installing fglrx anymore, if the user is running r300 or whatever the fglrx supports but also has good support in -ati&mesa22:46
bryceok even better.  I assumed it was some sort of game22:47
tormodtjaalton: re what?22:48
tjaaltontormod: re: "what do you mean it got put into l-r-m?" (or was that not for me :)22:49
tormodbryce 181121 is a poor dup, since it should already have been closed for no response.22:49
tormodtjaalton: not for you :)22:49
tjaaltontormod: awww :)22:49
brycetormod: ahh, but it's reported by bdmurray who is the Canonical Bugmeister22:50
tormodbryce: right! So if he doesn't follow up, who will? :)22:51
brycealso I subbed ted gould who maintains xscreensaver; he should also be eyeballing this one22:52
tormodwould you like to have 181121 assigned to you? otherwise I close it.22:52
bryceI'd already asked brian about this bug this morning, but said he could look at it when he has time (I think he has bug hug day events going on presently)22:53
tormodok here you are.22:53
brycetormod, I gather fglrx just gained AIGLX support in the latest version.  Maybe it's buggy?23:30
bryceI've encouraged a bunch of the -fglrx bug reporters to test turning it off.23:30
tormodwould make a lot of sense. when did the latest fglrx get in?23:31
tormodoff-topic: is the data I submit thru hwtest available on LP?23:32
bryceafaik the data is not available :-/23:33
brycelast fglrx update was January I think23:33
tjaaltonno, early March23:34
tjaaltonTue 11th23:34
brycehmm, my l-r-m checkout must be old23:34
bryceoh I see what I did.  duh23:35
tjaaltonI'm about to upload a new one23:35
tormodearly March, then apport came back and crash bugs started to flood? could make sense.23:36
tormodwhat about all the nvidia bugs?23:36
ubotuNew bug: #211066 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "Cannot upgrade linux-restricted-modules-generic" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21106623:40
tjaaltonhere we go, the first bug about no lrm available for -1423:40
Ngtjaalton: brightness works for me in -14 \o/23:43
Ngalthough gdm is being very very strange23:43
NgI had to comment out GtkTheme=Human in gdm.conf to get the greeter to not consume a whole core in a gtkrc loading loop23:44
ubotuNew bug: #211074 in linux (main) "[hardy] no nvidia module FATAL with linux-image-2.6.24-14-generic (dup-of: 211066)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21107423:46
ubotuNew bug: #211076 in linux-meta (main) "Hardy, linux-restricted-modules broken (dup-of: 211066)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21107623:46
bryceI do have to say that the fglrx bug reporters are surprisingly responsive compared with the -intel reporters23:47
brycebut maybe that's just because the reports are all much more recent23:47
ubotuNew bug: #210905 in mumble (main) "not push-to-talk - xevie problem" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21090523:51
ubotuNew bug: #211089 in ubuntu "kernel update left Ubuntu without restricted drivers (dup-of: 211066)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21108923:55
tjaaltonNg: yeah brightness works, tried it with -1323:56

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