[00:12] <Tuv0k> anyone using pulse?
[00:13] <ahyuwhiye> hi
[00:14] <ahyuwhiye> I just can orevent the xfce panel from taking gnome icons
[00:14] <ahyuwhiye> but i would prefer the rodent icons
[00:14] <ahyuwhiye> prevent*
[00:14] <ahyuwhiye> I do not intent to delete the gnome icons
[00:18] <zoredache> sorry?
[00:20] <ahyuwhiye> still therE?
[00:20] <ahyuwhiye> how can i prevent xfce4 panel from "loading" gnome icons automatically without deleting gnome icons
[00:21] <ahyuwhiye> slightly off-topic
[00:21] <ahyuwhiye> but people at xfce are not responding
[00:21] <ahyuwhiye> i hope you will understand
[00:21] <ahyuwhiye> my english is bad ^^
[00:24] <ere4si> you need to select the rodent icons in      settings manager - user interface
[00:55] <Tuv0k> pulse working for anyone?
[03:44] <cody-somerville> maxamillion, feel free to hang in -devel
[03:44] <maxamillion> ah, will do
[04:24] <jpastore> If I can't get wifi to work, how can I enable the ntfs restricted driver?
[04:42] <cody-somerville> ntfs doesn't have restricted drivers
[04:42] <cody-somerville> It works out of the box
[04:52] <Tu13es> anyone know if I can install the hardy beta alongside gutsy?
[04:53] <zoredache> Tu13es: what do you mean alongside?
[04:54] <Tu13es> whoops, meant this for #ubuntu. but anyways, if hardy fails it'd be nice to boot back into gutsy
[04:54] <zoredache> you can easily do it on a second partitition... If you are feeling very advanced you could also do a 'chrot'
[04:55] <|phryde|> anyone else having problems installing wine on 64bit xubuntu?
[04:55] <zoredache> Tu13es: if you pay really close attention to what you are doing you could boot off the livecd and make a new folder off root (/gutsy perhaps) and move everything from / into that folder...
[04:56] <zoredache> then do your install, but make sure you do NOT format the drive
[04:56] <Tu13es> hmm
[04:56] <Tu13es> sounds like a lot of work
[04:56] <Tu13es> what happens if i install hardy and my wifi doesn't work? can I reinstall gutsy from cd?
[04:57] <zoredache> if you moved stuff like I suggested, then you would reboot, move/delete everything the hardy installer created move everything from /gutsy back and re-do grub
[04:58] <Tu13es> gotcha
[04:58] <Tu13es> thanks for your help zoredache
[04:58] <zoredache> Of course really what would be far better would be to make a backup on external media
[04:58] <Tu13es> yeah
[04:58] <Tu13es> it's just my laptop so it's not of huge importance
[05:05] <BunnyRevolution> linuxmint is a branch of *buntu, correct?
[05:44] <ManiDhillon> hello
[05:50] <ManiDhillon> Hello every one!!
[05:51] <ManiDhillon> Can you help me choosing a good mail client for XFCE desktop rather than Thunderbird!
[05:52] <ManiDhillon> Anyone here???
[09:02] <sveakex> what video player does xubuntu use by default?
[09:03] <cody-somerville> gxine, I believe
[09:03] <sveakex> ok
[09:03] <sveakex> thanks
[09:52] <march> Totem
[09:55] <march> ooops 50 minutes 2 late ;)
[11:52] <clubber--> Hello there. I have some issues with my soundcard (sb live! 5.1). It worked fine yesterday until I ran a reboot. Could anyone help me, please?
[11:56] <gabkdll1> clubber--: hi
[11:57] <clubber--> hey!
[11:57] <clubber--> please help.. i have no clue ;P
[11:57] <gabkdll1> I am not the smartest man in the channel, but perhaps you want to check your mixer levels first. In a terminal, run alsamixer
[11:57] <clubber--> kk. 2 sec
[11:58] <clubber--> so... what should I do?
[11:58] <gabkdll1> look around (using the arrow keys) and check to see if the source that you are expecting sound to come from is muted
[11:59] <gabkdll1> muted items are marked "MM"
[12:00] <gabkdll1> select and hit m to toggle the mute state
[12:01] <clubber--> hmm.. seems fine to me :\
[12:01] <clubber--> i've connected only the front
[12:01] <gabkdll1> although, I have to admit, I don't know why a reboot would mute any of your mixer levels. You might want to wait till someone smarter than me comes along :)
[12:02] <gabkdll1> "PCM" and "Headphones" are two items you probably want to unmute if they are muted
[12:02] <clubber--> heheh
[12:02] <gabkdll1> then again, your mixer items probably are not the same as mine
[12:02] <clubber--> i can't do anything with the PCM
[12:03] <gabkdll1> oh, that is interesting
[12:03] <clubber--> yeah? ;o
[12:05] <gabkdll1> well, perhaps it is just because we have different sound cards, but on my system having the PCM channel unmuted is essential for sound to work
[12:06] <gabkdll1> I just meant it might be a clue as to where your problem lies
[12:06] <gabkdll1> hopefully someone smarter than me will come along and will know what this clue means ;)
[12:06] <gabkdll1> sorry that I can't be of more help
[12:06] <clubber--> no problem
[12:06] <clubber--> thanks ;)
[12:07] <gabkdll1> can you maybe provide a little more information on what you were doing during the boot when everything was still working fine?
[12:08] <clubber--> nothing really. i've innstalled ubuntu yesterday with a sb extreme audio. after a while i figured that linux did not work with this card, so i inserted the sb live 5.1 card. when i turned on the computer the sound worked fine
[12:09] <clubber--> then i ran a reboot, and the sound was gone ;o
[12:09] <gabkdll1> hmmm...
[12:10] <gabkdll1> well, I actually think that Ubuntu's hardware detection should work fine in a situation like this
[12:11] <gabkdll1> but perhaps you want to try booting from a live cd again
[12:11] <clubber--> hm? sorry man, i'm totally new to this
[12:12] <gabkdll1> actually, if it is not too much trouble, you might try reinstalling with the new soundcard in there
[12:12] <gabkdll1> then again, I am no expert
[12:12] <clubber--> hehe
[12:12] <gabkdll1> you can always take your problem to the forum if you don't find anyone around here
[12:12] <clubber--> allright
[12:12] <gabkdll1> the forum usually gets lots of traffic
[12:13] <clubber--> ok ;) which forum?
[12:13] <gabkdll1> plus, in the forum you can document everything that happend
[12:13] <gabkdll1> !forum
[12:13] <ubotu> The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[12:13] <clubber--> ah
[12:13] <clubber--> ok then
[12:13] <clubber--> thx man
[12:38] <the_alamo> is anyone here also connected to irc.gnome.org? i have been trying to get to the epiphany channel and i can't connect to the server.
[12:59] <gabkdll1> the_alamo: I seem to be able to connect without any problems
[12:59] <the_alamo> crap!!
[12:59] <the_alamo> thanks for checking.
[13:00] <the_alamo> and, i guess, it is better than the whole server being down.
[13:01] <the_alamo> gabkdll1, does irc.gnome.org send you to irc.us.gimp.org?
[13:18] <pirate_Hunter> hell cna someone post a link for the minimum download size for xubuntu or is that only available for ubuntu?
[13:18] <pirate_Hunter> *hello
[13:21] <pirate_Hunter> hello any help please
[13:22] <cody-somerville> Hello pirate_Hunter
[13:23] <cody-somerville> The size is listed on the download page
[13:23] <cody-somerville> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/gutsy/release/
[13:23] <pirate_Hunter> I know but that 600mb+ i need soemthing lower like ubuntu has a minimum download size of 9mb
[13:25] <pirate_Hunter> cody-somerville: you qouldnt by any case know if xubuntu has soemthing similar
[13:26] <cody-somerville> You could use the same thing you use for Ubuntu
[13:26] <cody-somerville> and then install the xubuntu-desktop package
[13:27] <pirate_Hunter> wouldnt that mean i would have ubuntu and xubuntu installed doubling the size also is that possibl without net access
[13:27] <crimsun> i.e., install ubuntu-standard and then xubuntu-desktop
[13:27] <crimsun> with the server disk, it's quite straightforward
[13:28] <crimsun> install a minimal server, install ubuntu-standard, install xubuntu-desktop
[13:28] <crimsun> (in that order)
[13:28] <crimsun> after that, you can install linux-generic
[13:30] <pirate_Hunter> crimsun: is it possible to do usb pen install to HDD?
[13:33] <crimsun> I don't know offhand.  I haven't followed the installer since breezy, and many things have been updated since then.
[13:34] <crimsun> it's certainly possible, but whether the installer makes it trivia is another story.
[13:34] <crimsun> trivial^
[14:18] <gabkdll1> the_alamo: how do I check that? I use Pidgin as my IRC client
[14:19] <the_alamo> gabkdll1, i never really understood how to set up pidgin for irc!!  i think occasionally i would get it to work but it was more trial and error luck than skill.
[14:19] <the_alamo> i always wanted to do it with pidgin (and now empathy) but in the end i install xchat.
[14:21] <gabkdll1> well, I have been using it since it was called Gaim, and I have not needed to update my configuration since then
[14:22] <the_alamo> okay, let's try.  i think you add an account.  set it to irc and put irc.gnome.org in the server.
[14:22] <gabkdll1> yes
[14:22] <the_alamo> then in the screen name you would put gabkdll1 (i think)
[14:23] <gabkdll1> I do have to admit, sometimes Pidgin gets disconnected from the server. It automatically reconnects, and generally it happens rarely enough as to be a non-issue for me
[14:23] <the_alamo> hmm.
[14:23] <gabkdll1> well, normally I am gabkdlly, but I got bumped during this session, so Pidgin automatically renamed me
[14:24] <gabkdll1> you would of course want to put the_alamo instead of gabkdll1 ;)
[14:24] <the_alamo> unless i wanted to be you!  (insert spooky music)
[14:25] <gabkdll1> yes, I suspect I should stop being lasy and register my user name one of these days
[14:25] <the_alamo> i registered once but i get bored of my user names and change them
[14:26] <the_alamo> which, i guess, is better than changing my legal name when i am bored.
[14:27] <the_alamo> well i set up pidgin and it can't connect either. that is 3 for 3.
[14:27] <the_alamo> (pidgin empathy xchat)
[14:27] <gabkdll1> :(
[14:27] <the_alamo> maybe it has something to do with living in south korea
[14:28] <the_alamo> gnome has secretly been aligning itself with north korea and it hasn't manifested itself in any way except for this.
[14:28] <gabkdll1> maybe someone in south korea was spamming, so they temporarily blocked certain IPs
[14:29] <the_alamo> maybe.
[14:29] <the_alamo> that is more likely than my reasoning.
[14:29] <gabkdll1> but I would guess they would put something like that on the news section of their webpage
[14:30] <the_alamo> yes.
[14:31] <the_alamo> connecting with them has been tenuous for a long time but i have always been able to connect eventually
[14:32] <the_alamo> on a side note... i would love pidgin if i could change the layout.
[14:33] <the_alamo> in empathy, which is based on somehting but i forget what, i can set it up so that my user name and avatar appear above the text in a nice little box.
[14:33] <the_alamo> but in pidgin it is always along the side
[14:33] <the_alamo> i like the side setup for irc but not chat.
[14:56] <ShaDowZ> Salut , j'aurai besoin d'un avi sur xubuntu car je croit bien que je vais l'installer
[14:56] <ShaDowZ> !
[14:56] <cody-somerville> !fr
[14:56] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[14:57] <ShaDowZ> Thanks ;)
[14:58] <ShaDowZ> cody-somerville and ubuntu-fr ? Do not exist ?
[14:58] <ShaDowZ> xubuntu-fr
[14:58] <ShaDowZ> *
[14:58] <cody-somerville> Try asking in #ubuntu-fr - they'll still provide support for Xubuntu or you can ask your question here in English :)
[14:59] <ShaDowZ> Ok Thanks you cody-somerville ;)
[15:01] <ShaDowZ> cody-somerville 	
[15:01] <ShaDowZ> Sorry I do not speak English very well but, it's true that on xubuntu graphical interface is not very nice?
[15:01] <ShaDowZ> ( not very beauthiful )
[15:02] <cody-somerville> Umm... I like it.
[15:02] <cody-somerville> Are you talking about the current release?
[15:04] <ShaDowZ> Um
[15:04] <ShaDowZ> 	
[15:04] <ShaDowZ> I do not know, I have seen comments on the internet which said that the interface was not very good
[15:05] <ShaDowZ> It is for this reason that I come here! To find out if this is true
[15:05] <cody-somerville> Could you point me to those comments?
[15:06] <sveri> hi, und hardy the network manager seems not to work with the wallet system
[15:06] <sveri> when i connect to a wlan and store the passwort, the nm-applet breaks everytime i want to connect again
[15:07] <sveri> does somebody knwo where i can delete the information about the passwords in xfce?
[15:07] <gabkdll1> ShaDowZ: just get a hold of a live CD and try it out. You will notice soon enough if the interface does not jive with you.
[15:07] <ShaDowZ> Ok Ok
[15:08] <ShaDowZ> 	
[15:08] <ShaDowZ> And you think otherwise, with a personal opinion?
[15:08] <ShaDowZ> ( for the Graphical interface )
[15:09] <ShaDowZ> gabkdll1 ?
[15:09] <ShaDowZ> or cody-somerville ?
[15:10] <cody-somerville> It is of course a personal opinion
[15:10] <cody-somerville> Just because I like it doesn't mean you'll like it.
[15:10] <gabkdll1> Gnome does have some nice candy, and I hear KDE is configurable up the wazu (or so I hear).
[15:11] <gabkdll1> in a way, I feel that XFCE does a good job of keeping things minimal and simple. Although, I suppose it might sometimes require a little more familiarity with the command line than does Gnome.
[15:12] <ShaDowZ> Ok
[15:13] <ShaDowZ> So ..
[15:13] <ShaDowZ> 	
[15:13] <ShaDowZ> I will test it then, I think xubuntu is already better than Windows! XD
[15:14] <cody-somerville> :)
[15:14] <cody-somerville> Thank you.
[15:31] <the_alamo> g'nite all
[15:53] <ShaDowZ> cody-somerville
[15:53] <ShaDowZ> Well I saw comment infact quite well on Xubuntu so I decide to install it: D ;)
[15:54] <cody-somerville> :)
[15:54] <ShaDowZ> cody-somerville ? You have what you? ( OS )
[15:54] <cody-somerville> I run Xubuntu and Ubuntu as well.
[15:54] <ShaDowZ> Ok ;)
[15:55] <ShaDowZ> and 	
[15:55] <ShaDowZ> You use more often that?
[15:56] <ShaDowZ> cody-somerville
[15:56] <cody-somerville> I use Xubuntu most often.
[15:57] <ShaDowZ> Ok Ok ;)
[15:58] <ShaDowZ> but cody-somerville
[15:58] <ShaDowZ> 	
[15:58] <ShaDowZ> However I have a small problem on windows i was forced to install drivers for the pc see my NIC. I do not know if this is in contrast compatible with linux: /
[15:59] <cody-somerville> Probably not.
[15:59] <cody-somerville> It should work right out of the box.
[15:59] <ShaDowZ> Aîe
[17:13] <n4pp3lbl00d> Hallo zusammen
[17:14] <n4pp3lbl00d> Jemand da?
[17:19] <zoredache> ?
[17:25] <drmarwat> hello
[17:28] <drmarwat> i need little help with this....> is it an error and how can i fix it ?.....>  http://rafb.net/p/oHPjVG67.html
[17:29] <zoredache> so you are using a unofficial repository... They probably have a GPG keey somewhere on there site and instructions on how to import it
[17:29] <drmarwat> oh, thats the repo issue
[17:30] <zoredache> you can also just ignore the message
[17:30] <drmarwat> i will check my repo list now
[17:30] <drmarwat> thanks
[17:30] <drmarwat> few more issues
[17:30] <zoredache> the instructions for adding the wine key are on the page http://winehq.org/site/download-deb
[17:31] <drmarwat> can i enable single click on mouse to open drives etc?
[17:31] <zoredache> drmarwat: start up a folder window go to edit->prefs->behavior
[17:32] <drmarwat> thanks, i will do that
[17:33] <drmarwat> it is activated
[17:35] <drmarwat> one another small issue,  my windows partitions are under file system, media, hdd....a long route to reach  them, can i enable them to be on my desktop?
[17:37] <drmarwat> plus how to enable auto login to system on reboot?
[17:39] <zoredache> drmarwat: you should be able to create a launcher on your desktop that will load directly to whatever folder you want
[17:39] <dahui> hello @all, I am an absolute newbie here and no english native so please bare with my english, anybody out there who got some spare minutes to help me with my asus eeepc and eeexubuntu? all up and running apart I can connect to wireless only by dhcp, maual config doesn to work :(
[17:39] <zoredache> or if you have the folder window open you can dag your favorite folders over to the sidebar
[17:40] <drmarwat> zoredache, how can i get that launcher please?
[17:41] <zoredache> drmarwat: right click on the desktop and create a launcher.. the command should be 'thunar /path'
[17:41] <drmarwat> thanks
[17:41] <zoredache> of course replace path with the actual path...
[17:42] <drmarwat> i will do that
[17:42] <zoredache> as for autologin you'll probably have to wait for someone that knows about that.
[17:42] <drmarwat> zoredache: thanks
[17:54] <drmarwat> opera and navigator is missing from the repo
[17:54] <zoredache> drmarwat: what repository are you talking about?
[17:55] <zoredache> opera would not be in the Ubuntu repository because it is non-free/proprietry software
[17:55] <drmarwat> zoredache, i didnt change the repo from default, i will check what repo i have
[17:56] <drmarwat> they are official repo
[17:57] <zoredache> the don't show up when I look at http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[17:57] <TheSheep> opera is in the commercial repository
[17:57] <drmarwat> brb please, i need to reboot to get my nvidia card start working
[17:57] <TheSheep> you can enable it in the software sources
[17:58] <drmarwat> TheSheep, thanks
[19:18] <praktora>  i am trying to install the latest ubuntu and i am getting this error Loading hardware drivers...error receiving uevent message: No buffer space available  can anyone help ?
[19:28] <TheSheep> praktora: maybe check forums/google...
[22:35] <wweasel> I'm having some trouble with my sound...my PC has an internal audio card and a Creative CT510 PCI card.  I'd like to use the PCI card, but xubuntu is outputting to the internal card...
[23:14] <march> goodnight :)