| jbrefort | any chance to have abiword-2.6.0 in Hardy? | 10:33 |
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| ogra_cmpc | jbrefort, i think there was a bug asking for an update | 10:34 |
| ogra_cmpc | look at launchpad | 10:35 |
| jbrefort | thx | 10:35 |
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| cliebow | any one know a fix if system hangs at "starting system message bus? | 15:14 |
| Neo5967 | !seen Gabona | 20:56 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about seen gabona - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 20:56 |
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| justme_ | can anyone point me in the direction of some LTSP/edubuntu documentation on setting up an edubuntu server from scratch using 8.04? | 22:36 |
| ogra_cmpc | https://wiki.edubuntu.org/HardyClassroomServer | 22:37 |
| ogra_cmpc | (WIP) | 22:38 |
| justme_ | bah, so I just burned a bunch of time by downloading & installing 8.04 server, and then trying to setup ltsp by installing the ltsp-server-standalone? :P | 22:40 |
| justme_ | have to go download alternate now.. :/ | 22:40 |
| justme_ | I had also tryed F4 on the boot menu, but it only had "NORMAL" with the server instal | 22:40 |
| justme_ | install* cd | 22:41 |
| ogra_cmpc | well, server was a bad idea indeed, you need a desktop installed to use ltsp | 22:41 |
| justme_ | even the server side ? | 22:41 |
| justme_ | or rather, you mean including the server side of the equation? | 22:41 |
| ogra_cmpc | only the server side :) | 22:41 |
| ogra_cmpc | your think clients only run a minimal OS, everything thats needed to make the HW work plus X and a login manager ... | 22:42 |
| ogra_cmpc | the display manager logs you in to a desktop session on the server | 22:42 |
| justme_ | let me ask this: would be be better (is there an easy way..), that since I don't actually need edubuntu per say, I just need an LTSP server for application development, that going the 8.04-server version and adding the ltsp bits to it? | 22:43 |
| justme_ | would *it be better | 22:43 |
| ogra_cmpc | do you need a desktop or only shells ? | 22:43 |
| justme_ | I was trying to use the edubuntu setup since it sounded like a quick and easy way to get an LTSP setup and running out of the box (from the 7.10 CD's anyway) | 22:44 |
| justme_ | gui's.. for such things as quanta | 22:44 |
| ogra_cmpc | right, that exact implemetation was moved to the alternate CD | 22:44 |
| ogra_cmpc | so you are not forced to use edubuntu | 22:44 |
| justme_ | well, I don't mind using edubuntu.. its really just ltsp aimed @ education and includes some default applications, is it not? | 22:45 |
| justme_ | some default educational applications | 22:45 |
| ogra_cmpc | well, with hardy its an educational addon cd | 22:46 |
| ogra_cmpc | the ltsp technology moved to ubuntu | 22:46 |
| ogra_cmpc | where it makes more sense | 22:46 |
| justme_ | so they are moving LTSP to ubuntu for some reasons which include the benefit of having a "ubuntu ltsp" server for other projects available, instead of defaulting to an "ubuntu educational ltsp" from the get go | 22:46 |
| justme_ | makes sense.. just sucks in terms of lack of (easily found?) documentation on the subject so far | 22:47 |
| ogra_cmpc | not all educational institutions want to use a desktop thats rather set up for 8-16yo | 22:47 |
| justme_ | I wasted a bit of time earlier googling and found nothing, and finally decided to get onto IRC.. but not all people will get onto IRC, and I was trying to avoid it because generally I can find what I need on the web | 22:48 |
| justme_ | thats also a good point... re: the setup for 8-16's | 22:48 |
| ogra_cmpc | ubuntu in education is more than that, universities want to use a standard ubuntu themed desktop for example ... | 22:48 |
| bart1105 | good day! | 22:49 |
| LaserJock | justme_: well, we haven't even release 8.04 so the lack of documentaton isn't surprising | 22:49 |
| LaserJock | *released | 22:49 |
| lns | Does anyone know when/if OOo 2.4 will be released/backported for Gutsy? | 22:51 |
| justme_ | considering it is 3 weeks from release, I think having documentation ready for early adopters is an added benefit, it also precludes the fact that more people can beta test | 22:51 |
| justme_ | precludes = wrong word, but you get what I mean | 22:52 |
| justme_ | no idea lns... one could always build from 8.04 sources? | 22:52 |
| LaserJock | justme_: well sure, but most of our testers already know how to install 8.04 | 22:52 |
| LaserJock | we'll have documentation as soon as we can | 22:53 |
| justme_ | "most of our testers" ... hehe | 22:53 |
| lns | justme_, I'm sure.. was just curious, I didn't want to jump to Hardy right off the bat.. i had really bad experiences doing that from Dapper -> Feisty | 22:53 |
| justme_ | how does one expect new testers to come on board? :p | 22:53 |
| justme_ | lns: I have high hopes for hardy, being an LTS release.. the same as dapper | 22:54 |
| LaserJock | justme_: not exactly sure, show up here, email edubuntu-devel, stuff like that | 22:54 |
| LaserJock | lns: Dapper->Feisty is not a supported upgrade | 22:54 |
| lns | justme_, i agree - but having 6 sites with ~200 users/ea, it would be baaad to try and jump right on the bandwagon without testing first ;) | 22:54 |
| lns | LaserJock, i know =) but there were things in feisty i really wanted | 22:55 |
| lns | and i was naive | 22:55 |
| LaserJock | Dapper -> Hardy will hopefully be smooth sailing ;-) | 22:55 |
| ogra_cmpc | justme_, ltsp in hardy has still a good bunch of bugs i plan to clean out on the weekend | 22:55 |
| justme_ | lns: I wasn't implying you do jump without testing ;) there's no such thing as a bad plan to pre-test something | 22:55 |
| justme_ | LaserJock: I think it is asking alot to go from a 2yr old platform to a bleeding edge platform without problems... (with an O/S) | 22:56 |
| lns | sooo..nobody knows about OOo 2.4 huh? =p | 22:56 |
| lns | i'll jump on #ubuntu | 22:56 |
| justme_ | you just can't expect everything to work when many things are version dependent like custom coding that will break when you upgrade your mysql versions or apache versions, etc | 22:56 |
| LaserJock | lns: what is your question exactly? | 22:56 |
| justme_ | he was wondering if OOO 2.4 will be backported to gutsy | 22:57 |
| LaserJock | justme_: yes, but that's why we do upgrade testing | 22:57 |
| lns | LaserJock, OOo 2.4 has the pixmap fix for LTSP - i wanted to know if it was in the todo list for gutsy to have it backported into the repos or for us to "just upgrade to hardy".. | 22:57 |
| LaserJock | well, but is he looking for a PPA or -backports or? | 22:57 |
| justme_ | but no amount of upgrade testing can account for version differences of a program itself | 22:57 |
| LaserJock | I kinda doubt it'll be in official repos, it's a real beast | 22:57 |
| lns | oh ok | 22:58 |
| lns | thanks =) | 22:58 |
| LaserJock | justme_: of course not, I was just saying that Dapper -> Hardy upgrades are official supported | 22:58 |
| justme_ | yea | 22:58 |
| lns | I don't plan on upgrading from Hardy at all until the next LTS =) | 22:58 |
| LaserJock | where as Dapper -> (anything but Edgy) is not | 22:58 |
| lns | of course the new 'candy' always tempts me | 22:58 |
| johnny | soo OOo 2.4 with pixmap fix is in hardy? | 23:10 |
| johnny | ogra_cmpc, any specific bugs i should know about? | 23:10 |
| johnny | ones that aren't a regression from gutsy | 23:11 |
| lns | johnny, check out http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=85321 | 23:26 |
| ubotu | OpenOffice.org bug 85321 in gsl "OOo caches large pixmaps to X server, crashing the X server." [Defect,Closed: fixed] | 23:26 |
| lns | thaks ubotu =p | 23:26 |
| johnny | i'm asking if it's in hardy | 23:26 |
| lns | 2.4 is in hardy, yes afaik | 23:26 |
| johnny | the fixed version :) | 23:26 |
| lns | hopefully.. =) Haven't verified it myself but that's what the devs say | 23:27 |
| lns | now onto more important bugs..like why frozen-bubble crashes on thin clients =p | 23:27 |
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