ubotuNew bug: #211101 in launchpad "Indirect beta tester can't test" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21110100:41
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ubotuNew bug: #211117 in launchpad "Tooltips on sections don't always show" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21111701:51
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ubotuNew bug: #211129 in launchpad "As a betatester I don't get redirected to edge from launchpad subdomains" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21112902:51
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YokoZarLivejournal is giving me this error with OpenID: No claimed id: no_identity_server: The provided URL doesn't declare its OpenID identity server.05:31
YokoZarAnd despite being in the beta tester team I don't see an OpenID login: field on my profile page05:33
FujitsuYokoZar: Known bug. Disable edge redirection, and view the page on production.05:34
FujitsuIt should be fixed on edge in about 25 minutes.05:34
YokoZarahh ok05:34
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jkakarAre there problems with PPAs?  I started builds ~8h ago and they're all still pending.06:59
stdinhmm, the i386 ones do seem to have died. 308 waiting and all say "IDLE (Auto)"07:00
FujitsuNothing i386 has built in several hours.07:01
adedovjoin #storm07:21
mantiena-baltixhi all08:12
mantiena-baltixMaybe someone knows why I don't get i386 builds in launchpad PPA ?08:13
Fujitsumantiena-baltix: Others seem to be having similar problems.08:18
Fujitsucprov: ^^08:18
cprovFujitsu: i386 are not building anything ?08:19
Fujitsucprov: i386 PPA builders appear to be not doing much.08:19
mantiena-baltixcprov: it seems i386 builder is sleeping (IDLE)08:19
FujitsuThey hadn't built anything in several hours, last time I looked.08:20
mantiena-baltixmaybe now it's a holiday for i386 builder ? ;)08:20
jmehdiyesterday I requested the merge of two teams: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntume-googlegroups with https://launchpad.net/~ubuntume.team (the later is the good one) but I didn't receive any email. I think there is a problem because the email used for the first team is a google group mailing list email address. What can I do now?08:21
cprovmantiena-baltix: they've all failed to build https://edge.launchpad.net/~baltix-members/+archive/+build/55337308:22
Fujitsucprov: There are some 311 builds in the i386 PPA queue.08:23
mantiena-baltixcprov: not all, look for example at https://edge.launchpad.net/~baltix-members/+archive/+build/55340508:23
mantiena-baltixcprov: this was queued 9 hours ago08:23
cprovmantiena-baltix: as I said, alll builders ended up in builder-failure state trying to build the job I mentioned.08:25
cprovmantiena-baltix: I will have to investigate what is exactly wrong in builders or in the job.08:25
mantiena-baltixcprov: hehe, but amd64 amd lpia builders didn't stopped after trying to build my openoffice backport ;)08:26
cprovmantiena-baltix: there is a lot of difference between i386 and other archs build. Anyway, don't get me wrong, I'm not blaming you for this.08:27
mantiena-baltixcprov: :)08:27
mantiena-baltixcprov: have you looked at http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13078663/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-i386.openoffice.org_1%3A2.4.0-3baltix0_NEEDSBUILD.txt.gz ?08:31
mantiena-baltixI see strange line at the end:08:32
mantiena-baltix/usr/share/launchpad-buildd/slavebin/sbuild-package: line 34:  1386 Segmentation fault      LANG=C LC_ALL=C $SBUILD "$@" 08:32
cprovmantiena-baltix: yes, never seem it before.08:33
cprovseen ... 08:34
mantiena-baltixcprov: amd64 and lpia builders don't have "Segmentation fault" in that build08:37
sixty6murphhi, does anyone know anything about initd.org being down?08:40
sixty6murphor how to get psycopg or if there's an appropriate channel?08:41
luisbg_I have a project under my user and I want to move it to a group since more people are going to chim in, whats the best way to do so?08:54
thumperluisbg_: change the registrant of the project to a team08:58
luisbg_thumper, ohhh nice08:59
luisbg_where do I do that?09:00
FujitsuMaintainer/owner/registrant are all the same.09:00
FujitsuThree different terms for the one thing.09:01
thumperFujitsu: well, not quite09:01
thumperFujitsu: some places have registrant for the person that registered it, and owner for the person/team currently responsible for it09:02
Fujitsuthumper: I was referring to those fields as applied to projects, sorry.09:02
thumperFujitsu: ok, np09:03
FujitsuI believe I saw a bug recently about making the project registrant actually being the person who registered it!09:03
* thumper nods09:04
mantiena-baltixmorning carlos09:30
luisbg_thanks Fujitsu and thumper :)09:43
\shguys...can someone explain this openid thingy now? are we able to login to openid enabled sides with our lp id, or is lp just taking other openid regsitrar accounts to login?09:46
Fujitsu\sh: The former.09:46
Fujitsu\sh: You can see your OpenID URL on your LP person page, and OpenPGP keys.09:46
\shFujitsu, so we can use our lp id to login to other openid enabled sites09:47
\shso I can start to enable my drupal installation to use openid ;)09:47
FujitsuThe OpenID URLs couldn't possibly get any uglier, but it's something.09:47
\shFujitsu, where do you see the openid url? I don't see it on my personal lp page09:49
Fujitsu\sh: You're in the Launchpad beta team?09:50
\shFujitsu, I'm using edge...so I should be09:50
\shyes..I am09:50
Fujitsu\sh: OK, disable the edge redirection (at https://launchpad.net/)09:51
FujitsuI thought that was meant to be fixed on edge by now.09:51
FujitsuBut it'll be on your person page on production.09:51
\shah now09:51
FujitsuWhat use is LP OpenID if the URLs are random, and others can't see your OpenID URL?09:52
FujitsuIs everyone meant to use delegation?09:52
\shi don't think so09:53
\shit looks just like a more pretty imho09:53
FujitsuJust like a more pretty? -EPARSE09:55
\shrephrase: it looks like, that the delegation method is a nicer representation of your openid id09:57
FujitsuRight, that's part of the point.09:57
FujitsuBut what use is an OpenID if it can't be linked back to a known person? LP provides no apparent mechanism to look up the OpenID/user mapping.09:58
luisbg_now the project is maintained by a team10:01
luisbg_but the bzr branch is in my user10:01
Fujitsuluisbg_: Change the registrant of the branch.10:01
FujitsuNote that that will also change the URL.10:02
luisbg_Fujitsu, let me look for it10:02
mantiena-baltixmpt: hi, are you launchpad developer ?10:02
luisbg_that makes sense10:02
mptmantiena-baltix, yes10:02
mantiena-baltixmpt: I've noticed your bug #80309 - this is very important for other distros, which uses launchpad as main bug tracking system, look at last comment10:03
ubotuLaunchpad bug 80309 in launchpad "Don't claim that non-LP distributions have no releases" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/8030910:03
luisbg_Fujitsu, awesome! thanks10:03
\shok...drupal + lp openid provider doesn't work10:04
\shfor account creation that is10:05
\shbut it looks mostly like a bug in drupal10:05
mantiena-baltixmpt: 2 or 3 years ago, at the start of launchpad, we (Baltix distro team) was able to use at least milestones, but after few months someone disabled this feature :(10:05
mantiena-baltixmpt: so, we can't manage in normal way bugs for about 2 years :(10:06
mptmantiena-baltix, unfortunately I probably won't have time to do anything about that10:06
mptsalgado might be more helpful, when he's around10:06
mptin a few hours10:06
mptmantiena-baltix, actually, your comment in that bug report is a separate issue10:07
mantiena-baltixmpt: I know, but this is very important10:08
mptMy report is strictly about the false message, not about letting distributions actually register releases10:08
mptMaybe there's another bug report about the latter problem10:08
mantiena-baltixmpt: AFAIK there are bugreport about releases/milestones registration problems bug I can't find that :(10:08
mantiena-baltixmpt: I which project I should search ? Soyuz or launchpad itself ?10:12
mptI'm not sure :-(10:13
mptbut I'm searching over both, and I don't see it10:13
mptAh, I see you've found bug 5825010:14
ubotuLaunchpad bug 58250 in launchpad "Unofficial distribution releases should not be allowed to use milestones" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/5825010:14
mptall right, time to report a new bug10:14
mantiena-baltixmpt: yes, I found bug 58250 but this bug is not clear for me - why other distros should be allowed to use milestones, while ubuntu distro is allowed ?10:16
mptWell, the idea is that every distribution milestone should be tied to a series (which is our term for a major version, e.g. the Dapper series = Ubuntu 6.06 + 6.06.1 + 6.06.2)10:17
mptIf distributions can register milestones but not series, then that model is broken10:17
mptSo 58250 is about one way of fixing that, I think10:18
mptwith the other way being to let distributions actually register series :-)10:18
mantiena-baltixmpt: so, you should to allow to register series :)10:18
mantiena-baltixor releases10:18
* mpt waits for the bug-reporting page to load10:20
mantiena-baltixmpt: so, should I report new bug about the other way being to let distributions actually register series ?10:24
mptmantiena-baltix, I just have10:25
mantiena-baltixmpt: thank you very much10:28
mpt(bug 211223)10:29
ubotuLaunchpad bug 211223 in blueprint "Distributions can't register series (releases)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21122310:30
FujitsuIn blueprint?10:31
ubotuNew bug: #211223 in blueprint "Distributions can't register series (releases)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21122310:31
intellectronicampt: why did you file that bug on blueprint?10:32
intellectronicampt: to be clearer with the emphasis - why on blueprint, rather than launchpad in general?10:32
ubotuNew bug: #211228 in blueprint "set branding 15x15 not present" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21122810:41
FujitsuIsn't that deliberate?10:43
FujitsuSo only teams can have emblems?10:43
mptintellectronica, I totally didn't notice that10:44
mptI guess it must have been the first option in the menu10:44
intellectronicampt: that's brings up an interesting misfeature. perhaps we should have a way to set the default product for a project explicitly. right now i guess blueprint comes up simply because it's first in alphabetical order10:45
mptintellectronica, except in the case of Launchpad itself, it might not make much sense for a project group to have a "Report a bug" button in the first place10:47
intellectronicampt: i'm not sure i agree. it's just a shortcut. i can imagine it would be annoying if you are viewing the page for a project group and then have to go to a different page to report a bug.10:48
mptlet's say we prevent my mistake by doing what Bugzilla does10:49
mptand giving you a list of projects to choose from, before you get to the bug-reporting form10:49
mptWould that be any different, in number of clicks or page loads, than requiring you to navigate to the project page before clicking "Report a bug"?10:50
mpthmm, I suppose it would be one more, because we currently don't link to project-specific Bugs pages from the project group Bugs page10:51
mptthough probably we should do that :-)10:51
mptand perhaps there's a better way of fixing the misfeature anyway10:53
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mptbut I'm too tired to think of it right now, and I need to go pack10:54
intellectronicampt: are you coming back to the UK?10:56
BUGabundowhy do I have one Name on help.LP.net (BUGabundo) and another on LP.net (Fernando Pereira) for the same account?10:57
intellectronicampt: excellent, i'll see you here, then10:57
mptok :-)10:57
BUGabundois joey here? I want to discuss a few things about OpenID10:57
mptBUGabundo, he's Rinchen, and not yet10:57
BUGabundothanks mpt10:58
* mpt -> other side of the world10:58
BUGabundo11 am here10:58
BUGabundoalready hungry10:58
BUGabundoup since 7am10:58
BUGabundonot that polite to leave during chat10:58
BUGabundocan anybody explain to me why do I have to Names on LP?10:58
BUGabundointellectronica maybe? kiko-zzz?10:59
FujitsuBUGabundo: bugabundo, or BUGabundo?10:59
FujitsuAh, I see.11:00
BUGabundoI have one Name on help.LP.net (BUGabundo) and another on LP.net (Fernando Pereira) for the same account, Fujitsu11:00
intellectronicaBUGabundo: the name on the help wiki is just a feature of the wiki. you identity is still linked to you LP identity11:00
BUGabundoI know11:00
BUGabundobut it is strange to see another name11:00
BUGabundoI was forced to set a "Real Name" because being part of LP Beta11:01
intellectronicaBUGabundo: well, maybe one day we'll have tighter integration between the wiki and the rest of LP. until then you're welcome to change your name on the wiki :)11:01
BUGabundoBUGabundo is my nickname and what I use to identify myself on the web11:01
cprovPPA i386 builders are *still* building lang-packs for the whole family ... nice, huh ?!11:05
Fujitsucprov: That's what langpacks do. It'd be nice if they were automatically de-prioritised.11:08
FujitsuWhy is Malone not filtering out signature attachments? I must pollute every bug I modify the status of, it seems.11:10
cprovFujitsu: yes, we should have some build-quota mechanism for each PPA to guarantee it's fair for everyone.11:10
jussi01hei all, quick question, where can I see the build queue? Im waiting on a build for my ppa...11:15
cprovjussi01: https://edge.launchpad.net/+builds11:16
jussi01cprov: thanks11:16
jussi01cprov: is there anyway to see more of the queue?11:17
jussi01as in, there are 160 waiting, Id like to see when mine is up. :)11:18
cprovjussi01: no, unfortunately, this feature is not yet available. See bug 210781, al-maisan is working on it while we talk ;)11:22
ubotuLaunchpad bug 210781 in soyuz "In order to estimate build job start times new build jobs need to have an estimated duration set for them" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/210781 - Assigned to Muharem Hrnjadovic (al-maisan)11:22
jussi01ahh, ok, thanks very much. :)11:25
jussi01So there is not even a list of what is going to be done though?11:26
cprovjussi01: no11:27
jussi01ok :)11:27
jussi01thanks again. good luck with it al-maisan  :)11:27
al-maisanjussi01: thank you very much :-)11:28
jussi01Ok, see you all then.  :)11:28
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kikoal-maisan, cprov: can't he see the build queue depth on edge/+builds12:14
al-maisanmorning kiko12:15
al-maisanyep, that page shows the bild queue lengths .. does it help though?12:16
mantiena-baltixkiko: hi, maybe you could help to solve releases/milestones registration bug #211223 in launchpad ?12:26
ubotuLaunchpad bug 211223 in launchpad "Distributions can't register series (releases)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21122312:26
kikomantiena-baltix, sorry, but not today. I've been looking at that bug again, we do need to find some time to fix it, though12:27
mantiena-baltixkiko: mpt told me, that maybe salgado could fix it, but I don't see salgado here :(12:29
kikoit's not something salgado would do12:29
kikoit's more soyuz than anything else12:30
mantiena-baltixkiko: so, that bug should be assigned to Soyuz project ?12:31
kikoyes, but I forewarn you there isn't a lot of slack on that team right now12:31
emgentkiko: ping12:53
kikoemgent, pong12:53
emgentI wrote anteater, a tool for manage penetration test report for ubuntu-whitehat team12:53
emgentanteater work with python-launchpad-bugs, where i can try it ?12:54
kikoemgent, staging.launchpad.net?12:54
emgentok, thanks12:54
ubotuNew bug: #211261 in launchpad-buildd "Misleading BUILDER_FAIL" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21126112:56
tseliotCan anybody tell me why my PPA built packages only for amd64 and not for i386? It used to build packages for 386 as well. Any ideas?13:40
tseliothere's my PPA:13:40
cprovtseliot: see the running-circle followed by i386 in front of your package. It mean pending build in i386, be patient it will get build at some point. There are other jobs in the i386 queue, see https://edge.launchpad.net/+builds13:43
tseliotcprov: ok, thanks for the link. I wanted to be sure that I hadn't messed up my PPA.13:45
cprovtseliot: we had some problems this morning with the i386 builders, so a lot of jobs were accumulated.13:45
cprovtseliot: it will quiesce in a bit and the new jobs will be processed quickly as usual.13:46
cprovtseliot: there are only 20 now :)13:47
tseliotcprov: great :-)13:50
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cr3yesterday, I updated the pot file for a project on launchpad which has translations. before, I had 35 strings and now I have 45. the problem is that this doesn't seem to be reflected on the translations page :(15:26
kikocr3, has it been imported?15:29
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cr3kiko: the changes have been pushed to the branch, do I need to do extra manual labor?15:41
cr3kiko: the translation page lists the trunk as a "translatable branch"15:42
kikocr3, uhh, of course. you need to upload the template manually15:43
kikobranches and translations aren't linked yet15:44
cr3kiko: I've done it once though, so I need to do this everytime I make changes to the pot file?15:44
cr3oh boy! I wonder if bzr has hooks to write scripts called upon events like commit, perhaps I could automate pushing pot files that way15:47
slicerHi. I'm trying to create a new user on the wiki, but after showing me the user preferences it just hangs when I click 'save'. 15:49
kikoslicer, the ubuntu wiki?15:54
kikoyou don't create new accounts there15:54
ubotuNew bug: #211320 in launchpad "Testcase management in Launchpad" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21132015:56
slicerkiko: You log in with your launchpad uid, but when I then try to click 'save' on the userpreferences which pop up, it does not work.16:00
kikowhy do you want to save, though?16:08
slicerBecause I changed some of the preferences? :)16:13
slicer.. I can't actually save wiki pages either, so there's something odd going on :(16:14
slicerAh, ok, let me correct. I can save wiki pages, but it took two minutes before it responded :)16:16
slicerGuess it's just overloaded.16:16
Rinchennealmcb, around?16:18
RinchenLaserJock, you around?16:22
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mantiena-baltixhello all17:27
mantiena-baltixcprov: do you know, that i386 PPA builders (samarium and thallium) doesn't work again ? Look at https://edge.launchpad.net/+builds 17:28
cprovmantiena-baltix: at least, they all say why they are broken this time.17:34
cprovmantiena-baltix: something in another build of yours, https://edge.launchpad.net/~mantas/+archive/+build/55410517:34
cprovmantiena-baltix: same segfault issue17:35
cprovbug 211261 ?17:36
ubotuLaunchpad bug 211261 in launchpad-buildd "Misleading BUILDER_FAIL" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21126117:36
mantiena-baltixcprov: hehe, I'm just trying to backport openoffice.org 2.4 from Ubuntu Hardy ;)17:40
nealmcbRinchen: yo17:42
cprovmantiena-baltix: it seems that this is a known bug in sbuild, for now you could sanitise the build-depends (removing the architecture-specific dependencies)17:42
LaserJockRinchen: am now17:43
mantiena-baltixcprov: I can wait for day or two :)17:43
RinchenHi nealmcb and LaserJock - wondering if I could get you two to visit your person page on edge and advise me if you see your openid url17:44
nealmcbRinchen: ding! ding! ding!  you are a winner!17:47
Rinchennealmcb, sweet thanks.   mars ^^17:47
cprovmantiena-baltix: waiting will not help you, I'm afraid. I don't know when this problem will be fixed.17:47
nealmcbRinchen: and I assume you saw my replies on the thread about having a human-friendly (memorable) lp openid17:48
Rinchennealmcb, yes, I did.  I think there is a recent bug on that as well17:48
Rinchenmrevell, how did SEM go?17:51
Rinchenmrevell, I'll catch you privately about that actually...17:51
Rinchensince it's off topic17:52
LaserJockRinchen: I don't see anything18:02
LaserJockoh wait, there it is!18:02
marsLaserJock, out of curiosity, where did you first expect to see it?18:03
LaserJockin the portlet on the left side18:04
LaserJockI have to scroll down to see Contact Details18:04
LaserJockI guess I would have alternatively expected it in Summary18:05
LaserJockkiko: ping?18:06
marsLaserJock, cool, thanks18:06
LaserJockmars: I wouldn't really consider openID to be a "Contact Detail", along with gpg key18:07
LaserJockalthough gpg key I can see marginally if you wanted to encrypt a message to somebody18:08
LaserJockbut am I really gonna use an openID to contact somebody?18:08
kikoLaserJock, pong?18:09
* mars ponders moving the link18:11
ubotuNew bug: #211390 in launchpad-buildd "sbuild sigsevs on insane build-depends" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21139018:16
ubotuNew bug: #211394 in launchpad-bazaar "OOPS deleting a branch" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21139418:25
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mantiena-baltixcprov: so, maybe you could exactly tell me what should I do to build openoffice.org 2.4 (see https://edge.launchpad.net/~mantas/+archive/+build/554105 ) ?18:51
cprovmantiena-baltix: I've superseded it manually, it won't build with those B-d.18:52
cprovmantiena-baltix: I suspect that if you remove the stuff in [] from the B-d it has a chance to work.18:53
mantiena-baltixcprov: so, I should edit control.in file manually instead of using default file from Ubuntu Hardy ?18:54
cprovmantiena-baltix: apparently yes, sbuild gets really upset with that.18:54
Rinchen ==> Come join the LP meeting in 2 minutes over at #launchpad-meeting!18:57
mantiena-baltixcprov: it's strange why amd64 and lpia doesn't have building problems with the same build-deps :-/19:01
cprovmantiena-baltix: people are hunting a perl bug, maybe that.19:02
jussio1Hei all, me again :) How long does it take for the .deb to show up in a ppa after it has exited the build queue/built?19:02
cprovless than 20 min19:02
jussio1cprov: thanks :)19:03
* jussio1 was getting impatient ;)19:03
mantiena-baltixcprov: why Status of failed https://edge.launchpad.net/~mantas/+archive/+build/554105 build is "Currently building" ?19:07
cprovmantiena-baltix: fixed.19:09
mantiena-baltixcprov: you fixed sbuild bug or only status ? ;)19:10
ubotuNew bug: #211423 in malone "empty email triggering OOPS in the email interface" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21142319:11
cprovmantiena-baltix: only the bug status, I don't have perl-fu 19:11
mantiena-baltixcprov: btw, could you explain why lpia openoffice.org build fails ? Look at http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13097080/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-lpia.openoffice.org_1%3A2.4.0-3baltix0_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz19:24
cprovmantiena-baltix: the b-d is conflicting, I guess. Ask on #motu, they may be able to help you better than me.19:26
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Rinchenopenid url issue fixed19:59
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LaserJockumm, I'm not really sure how to add information to a Question20:52
LaserJockmy two options are "Add Answer" and "Add Information Request" when I'm not doing either20:52
LaserJockany help?20:54
kikoLaserJock, choose one and fire ;)20:55
LaserJockdoes it matter which one I choose?20:56
LaserJockI assumed that they would throw flags20:56
kikoeither you're contributing to the answer or trying to understand what the problem is :)20:57
LaserJockI was just trying to add more info20:57
LaserJocknot exactly answer and I know what the problem is20:58
kikoso add answer20:58
LaserJockalright, that seems so wrong, but if that's the way it's supposed to go20:58
LaserJockI just thought "add answer" would close it20:58
kikothe person needs to mark it solved20:59
LaserJockoh, I see21:00
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ubotuNew bug: #211489 in malone "It shouldn't be possible to select Savannah as a bug tracker type when editing a bug tracker" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21148921:25
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ubotuNew bug: #211526 in launchpad-bazaar "Codebrowse log directory has unnecessarily permissive permissions" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21152622:15
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