[00:41] New bug: #211101 in launchpad "Indirect beta tester can't test" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211101 === barry is now known as barry-away === barry-away is now known as barry [01:51] New bug: #211117 in launchpad "Tooltips on sections don't always show" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211117 === kiko is now known as kiko-zzz [02:51] New bug: #211129 in launchpad "As a betatester I don't get redirected to edge from launchpad subdomains" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211129 === barry is now known as barry-away [05:31] Livejournal is giving me this error with OpenID: No claimed id: no_identity_server: The provided URL doesn't declare its OpenID identity server. [05:33] And despite being in the beta tester team I don't see an OpenID login: field on my profile page [05:34] YokoZar: Known bug. Disable edge redirection, and view the page on production. [05:34] It should be fixed on edge in about 25 minutes. [05:34] ahh ok === stu1 is now known as stub [06:59] Are there problems with PPAs? I started builds ~8h ago and they're all still pending. [07:00] hmm, the i386 ones do seem to have died. 308 waiting and all say "IDLE (Auto)" [07:01] Nothing i386 has built in several hours. [07:21] join #storm [08:12] hi all [08:13] Maybe someone knows why I don't get i386 builds in launchpad PPA ? [08:18] mantiena-baltix: Others seem to be having similar problems. [08:18] cprov: ^^ [08:19] Fujitsu: i386 are not building anything ? [08:19] cprov: i386 PPA builders appear to be not doing much. [08:19] cprov: it seems i386 builder is sleeping (IDLE) [08:20] They hadn't built anything in several hours, last time I looked. [08:20] maybe now it's a holiday for i386 builder ? ;) [08:21] yesterday I requested the merge of two teams: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntume-googlegroups with https://launchpad.net/~ubuntume.team (the later is the good one) but I didn't receive any email. I think there is a problem because the email used for the first team is a google group mailing list email address. What can I do now? [08:22] mantiena-baltix: they've all failed to build https://edge.launchpad.net/~baltix-members/+archive/+build/553373 [08:23] cprov: There are some 311 builds in the i386 PPA queue. [08:23] cprov: not all, look for example at https://edge.launchpad.net/~baltix-members/+archive/+build/553405 [08:23] cprov: this was queued 9 hours ago [08:25] mantiena-baltix: as I said, alll builders ended up in builder-failure state trying to build the job I mentioned. [08:25] mantiena-baltix: I will have to investigate what is exactly wrong in builders or in the job. [08:26] cprov: hehe, but amd64 amd lpia builders didn't stopped after trying to build my openoffice backport ;) [08:27] mantiena-baltix: there is a lot of difference between i386 and other archs build. Anyway, don't get me wrong, I'm not blaming you for this. [08:27] cprov: :) [08:31] cprov: have you looked at http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13078663/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-i386.openoffice.org_1%3A2.4.0-3baltix0_NEEDSBUILD.txt.gz ? [08:32] I see strange line at the end: [08:32] /usr/share/launchpad-buildd/slavebin/sbuild-package: line 34: 1386 Segmentation fault LANG=C LC_ALL=C $SBUILD "$@" [08:33] mantiena-baltix: yes, never seem it before. [08:34] seen ... [08:37] cprov: amd64 and lpia builders don't have "Segmentation fault" in that build [08:40] hi, does anyone know anything about initd.org being down? [08:41] or how to get psycopg or if there's an appropriate channel? [08:54] I have a project under my user and I want to move it to a group since more people are going to chim in, whats the best way to do so? [08:58] luisbg_: change the registrant of the project to a team [08:59] thumper, ohhh nice [08:59] thanks [09:00] where do I do that? [09:00] maintainer? [09:00] Maintainer/owner/registrant are all the same. [09:01] Three different terms for the one thing. [09:01] Fujitsu: well, not quite [09:02] Fujitsu: some places have registrant for the person that registered it, and owner for the person/team currently responsible for it [09:02] thumper: I was referring to those fields as applied to projects, sorry. [09:03] Fujitsu: ok, np [09:03] I believe I saw a bug recently about making the project registrant actually being the person who registered it! [09:04] * thumper nods [09:29] morning [09:30] morning carlos [09:43] <\sh> moins [09:43] thanks Fujitsu and thumper :) [09:46] <\sh> guys...can someone explain this openid thingy now? are we able to login to openid enabled sides with our lp id, or is lp just taking other openid regsitrar accounts to login? [09:46] \sh: The former. [09:46] \sh: You can see your OpenID URL on your LP person page, and OpenPGP keys. [09:47] <\sh> Fujitsu, so we can use our lp id to login to other openid enabled sites [09:47] Yes. [09:47] <\sh> nice [09:47] <\sh> so I can start to enable my drupal installation to use openid ;) [09:47] The OpenID URLs couldn't possibly get any uglier, but it's something. [09:49] <\sh> Fujitsu, where do you see the openid url? I don't see it on my personal lp page [09:50] \sh: You're in the Launchpad beta team? [09:50] <\sh> Fujitsu, I'm using edge...so I should be [09:50] <\sh> yes..I am [09:51] \sh: OK, disable the edge redirection (at https://launchpad.net/) [09:51] I thought that was meant to be fixed on edge by now. [09:51] But it'll be on your person page on production. [09:51] <\sh> ah now [09:52] What use is LP OpenID if the URLs are random, and others can't see your OpenID URL? [09:52] Is everyone meant to use delegation? [09:53] <\sh> i don't think so [09:53] <\sh> it looks just like a more pretty imho [09:55] Just like a more pretty? -EPARSE [09:57] <\sh> rephrase: it looks like, that the delegation method is a nicer representation of your openid id [09:57] Right, that's part of the point. [09:58] But what use is an OpenID if it can't be linked back to a known person? LP provides no apparent mechanism to look up the OpenID/user mapping. [10:01] now the project is maintained by a team [10:01] but the bzr branch is in my user [10:01] luisbg_: Change the registrant of the branch. [10:02] Note that that will also change the URL. [10:02] Fujitsu, let me look for it [10:02] mpt: hi, are you launchpad developer ? [10:02] that makes sense [10:02] mantiena-baltix, yes [10:03] mpt: I've noticed your bug #80309 - this is very important for other distros, which uses launchpad as main bug tracking system, look at last comment [10:03] Launchpad bug 80309 in launchpad "Don't claim that non-LP distributions have no releases" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80309 [10:03] Fujitsu, awesome! thanks [10:04] <\sh> ok...drupal + lp openid provider doesn't work [10:05] <\sh> for account creation that is [10:05] <\sh> but it looks mostly like a bug in drupal [10:05] mpt: 2 or 3 years ago, at the start of launchpad, we (Baltix distro team) was able to use at least milestones, but after few months someone disabled this feature :( [10:06] mpt: so, we can't manage in normal way bugs for about 2 years :( [10:06] mantiena-baltix, unfortunately I probably won't have time to do anything about that [10:06] salgado might be more helpful, when he's around [10:06] in a few hours [10:07] mantiena-baltix, actually, your comment in that bug report is a separate issue [10:08] mpt: I know, but this is very important [10:08] My report is strictly about the false message, not about letting distributions actually register releases [10:08] Maybe there's another bug report about the latter problem [10:08] mpt: AFAIK there are bugreport about releases/milestones registration problems bug I can't find that :( [10:12] mpt: I which project I should search ? Soyuz or launchpad itself ? [10:13] I'm not sure :-( [10:13] but I'm searching over both, and I don't see it [10:14] Ah, I see you've found bug 58250 [10:14] Launchpad bug 58250 in launchpad "Unofficial distribution releases should not be allowed to use milestones" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58250 [10:14] all right, time to report a new bug [10:16] mpt: yes, I found bug 58250 but this bug is not clear for me - why other distros should be allowed to use milestones, while ubuntu distro is allowed ? [10:17] Well, the idea is that every distribution milestone should be tied to a series (which is our term for a major version, e.g. the Dapper series = Ubuntu 6.06 + 6.06.1 + 6.06.2) [10:17] If distributions can register milestones but not series, then that model is broken [10:18] So 58250 is about one way of fixing that, I think [10:18] with the other way being to let distributions actually register series :-) [10:18] mpt: so, you should to allow to register series :) [10:18] yeah [10:18] or releases [10:20] * mpt waits for the bug-reporting page to load [10:24] mpt: so, should I report new bug about the other way being to let distributions actually register series ? [10:25] mantiena-baltix, I just have [10:28] mpt: thank you very much [10:29] (bug 211223) [10:30] Launchpad bug 211223 in blueprint "Distributions can't register series (releases)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211223 [10:31] In blueprint? [10:31] New bug: #211223 in blueprint "Distributions can't register series (releases)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211223 [10:32] mpt: why did you file that bug on blueprint? [10:32] mpt: to be clearer with the emphasis - why on blueprint, rather than launchpad in general? [10:41] New bug: #211228 in blueprint "set branding 15x15 not present" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211228 [10:43] Isn't that deliberate? [10:43] So only teams can have emblems? [10:44] whoa [10:44] intellectronica, I totally didn't notice that [10:44] I guess it must have been the first option in the menu [10:45] mpt: that's brings up an interesting misfeature. perhaps we should have a way to set the default product for a project explicitly. right now i guess blueprint comes up simply because it's first in alphabetical order [10:47] intellectronica, except in the case of Launchpad itself, it might not make much sense for a project group to have a "Report a bug" button in the first place [10:48] mpt: i'm not sure i agree. it's just a shortcut. i can imagine it would be annoying if you are viewing the page for a project group and then have to go to a different page to report a bug. [10:49] well [10:49] let's say we prevent my mistake by doing what Bugzilla does [10:49] and giving you a list of projects to choose from, before you get to the bug-reporting form [10:50] Would that be any different, in number of clicks or page loads, than requiring you to navigate to the project page before clicking "Report a bug"? [10:51] hmm, I suppose it would be one more, because we currently don't link to project-specific Bugs pages from the project group Bugs page [10:51] though probably we should do that :-) [10:53] and perhaps there's a better way of fixing the misfeature anyway === mwhudson_ is now known as mwhudson [10:54] but I'm too tired to think of it right now, and I need to go pack [10:56] mpt: are you coming back to the UK? [10:56] yep [10:57] why do I have one Name on help.LP.net (BUGabundo) and another on LP.net (Fernando Pereira) for the same account? [10:57] mpt: excellent, i'll see you here, then [10:57] ok :-) [10:57] is joey here? I want to discuss a few things about OpenID [10:57] BUGabundo, he's Rinchen, and not yet [10:58] thanks mpt [10:58] * mpt -> other side of the world [10:58] 11 am here [10:58] already hungry [10:58] up since 7am [10:58] grrr [10:58] not that polite to leave during chat [10:58] so [10:58] can anybody explain to me why do I have to Names on LP? [10:59] intellectronica maybe? kiko-zzz? [10:59] BUGabundo: bugabundo, or BUGabundo? [10:59] nops [11:00] Ah, I see. [11:00] I have one Name on help.LP.net (BUGabundo) and another on LP.net (Fernando Pereira) for the same account, Fujitsu [11:00] BUGabundo: the name on the help wiki is just a feature of the wiki. you identity is still linked to you LP identity [11:00] I know [11:00] but it is strange to see another name [11:01] I was forced to set a "Real Name" because being part of LP Beta [11:01] BUGabundo: well, maybe one day we'll have tighter integration between the wiki and the rest of LP. until then you're welcome to change your name on the wiki :) [11:01] BUGabundo is my nickname and what I use to identify myself on the web [11:01] ok [11:05] PPA i386 builders are *still* building lang-packs for the whole family ... nice, huh ?! [11:08] cprov: That's what langpacks do. It'd be nice if they were automatically de-prioritised. [11:10] Why is Malone not filtering out signature attachments? I must pollute every bug I modify the status of, it seems. [11:10] Fujitsu: yes, we should have some build-quota mechanism for each PPA to guarantee it's fair for everyone. [11:15] hei all, quick question, where can I see the build queue? Im waiting on a build for my ppa... [11:16] jussi01: https://edge.launchpad.net/+builds [11:16] [11:16] cprov: thanks [11:17] cprov: is there anyway to see more of the queue? [11:18] as in, there are 160 waiting, Id like to see when mine is up. :) [11:22] jussi01: no, unfortunately, this feature is not yet available. See bug 210781, al-maisan is working on it while we talk ;) [11:22] Launchpad bug 210781 in soyuz "In order to estimate build job start times new build jobs need to have an estimated duration set for them" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/210781 - Assigned to Muharem Hrnjadovic (al-maisan) [11:23] :-) [11:25] ahh, ok, thanks very much. :) [11:26] So there is not even a list of what is going to be done though? [11:27] jussi01: no [11:27] ok :) [11:27] thanks again. good luck with it al-maisan :) [11:28] jussi01: thank you very much :-) [11:28] Ok, see you all then. :) === kiko-zzz is now known as kiko [12:14] morning! [12:14] al-maisan, cprov: can't he see the build queue depth on edge/+builds [12:14] ? [12:15] morning kiko [12:16] yep, that page shows the bild queue lengths .. does it help though? [12:23] morning [12:26] kiko: hi, maybe you could help to solve releases/milestones registration bug #211223 in launchpad ? [12:26] Launchpad bug 211223 in launchpad "Distributions can't register series (releases)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211223 [12:27] mantiena-baltix, sorry, but not today. I've been looking at that bug again, we do need to find some time to fix it, though [12:29] kiko: mpt told me, that maybe salgado could fix it, but I don't see salgado here :( [12:29] it's not something salgado would do [12:30] it's more soyuz than anything else [12:31] kiko: so, that bug should be assigned to Soyuz project ? [12:31] yes, but I forewarn you there isn't a lot of slack on that team right now [12:31] :( [12:53] kiko: ping [12:53] emgent, pong [12:53] I wrote anteater, a tool for manage penetration test report for ubuntu-whitehat team [12:54] anteater work with python-launchpad-bugs, where i can try it ? [12:54] emgent, staging.launchpad.net? [12:54] ok, thanks [12:56] New bug: #211261 in launchpad-buildd "Misleading BUILDER_FAIL" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211261 [13:40] Can anybody tell me why my PPA built packages only for amd64 and not for i386? It used to build packages for 386 as well. Any ideas? [13:40] here's my PPA: [13:40] https://launchpad.net/~albertomilone/+archive [13:43] tseliot: see the running-circle followed by i386 in front of your package. It mean pending build in i386, be patient it will get build at some point. There are other jobs in the i386 queue, see https://edge.launchpad.net/+builds [13:45] cprov: ok, thanks for the link. I wanted to be sure that I hadn't messed up my PPA. [13:45] tseliot: we had some problems this morning with the i386 builders, so a lot of jobs were accumulated. [13:46] tseliot: it will quiesce in a bit and the new jobs will be processed quickly as usual. [13:47] tseliot: there are only 20 now :) [13:50] cprov: great :-) === mrevell is now known as mrevell-lunch === mrevell-lunch is now known as mrevell === gmb_ is now known as gmb [15:26] yesterday, I updated the pot file for a project on launchpad which has translations. before, I had 35 strings and now I have 45. the problem is that this doesn't seem to be reflected on the translations page :( [15:29] cr3, has it been imported? === hexmode` is now known as hexmode [15:41] kiko: the changes have been pushed to the branch, do I need to do extra manual labor? [15:42] kiko: the translation page lists the trunk as a "translatable branch" [15:43] cr3, uhh, of course. you need to upload the template manually [15:44] branches and translations aren't linked yet [15:44] kiko: I've done it once though, so I need to do this everytime I make changes to the pot file? [15:45] yep [15:47] oh boy! I wonder if bzr has hooks to write scripts called upon events like commit, perhaps I could automate pushing pot files that way [15:49] Hi. I'm trying to create a new user on the wiki, but after showing me the user preferences it just hangs when I click 'save'. [15:54] slicer, the ubuntu wiki? [15:54] you don't create new accounts there [15:56] New bug: #211320 in launchpad "Testcase management in Launchpad" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211320 [16:00] kiko: You log in with your launchpad uid, but when I then try to click 'save' on the userpreferences which pop up, it does not work. [16:08] why do you want to save, though? [16:13] Because I changed some of the preferences? :) [16:14] .. I can't actually save wiki pages either, so there's something odd going on :( [16:16] Ah, ok, let me correct. I can save wiki pages, but it took two minutes before it responded :) [16:16] Guess it's just overloaded. [16:18] nealmcb, around? [16:22] LaserJock, you around? === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch [17:27] hello all [17:28] cprov: do you know, that i386 PPA builders (samarium and thallium) doesn't work again ? Look at https://edge.launchpad.net/+builds [17:34] mantiena-baltix: at least, they all say why they are broken this time. [17:34] mantiena-baltix: something in another build of yours, https://edge.launchpad.net/~mantas/+archive/+build/554105 [17:35] mantiena-baltix: same segfault issue [17:36] bug 211261 ? [17:36] Launchpad bug 211261 in launchpad-buildd "Misleading BUILDER_FAIL" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211261 [17:40] cprov: hehe, I'm just trying to backport openoffice.org 2.4 from Ubuntu Hardy ;) [17:42] Rinchen: yo [17:42] mantiena-baltix: it seems that this is a known bug in sbuild, for now you could sanitise the build-depends (removing the architecture-specific dependencies) [17:43] Rinchen: am now [17:43] cprov: I can wait for day or two :) [17:44] Hi nealmcb and LaserJock - wondering if I could get you two to visit your person page on edge and advise me if you see your openid url [17:44] https://edge.launchpad.net/people/+me [17:47] Rinchen: ding! ding! ding! you are a winner! [17:47] nealmcb, sweet thanks. mars ^^ [17:47] mantiena-baltix: waiting will not help you, I'm afraid. I don't know when this problem will be fixed. [17:48] Rinchen: and I assume you saw my replies on the thread about having a human-friendly (memorable) lp openid [17:48] nealmcb, yes, I did. I think there is a recent bug on that as well [17:51] mrevell, how did SEM go? [17:51] mrevell, I'll catch you privately about that actually... [17:52] since it's off topic [18:02] Rinchen: I don't see anything [18:02] oh wait, there it is! [18:02] shazaam! [18:03] LaserJock, out of curiosity, where did you first expect to see it? [18:04] in the portlet on the left side [18:04] I have to scroll down to see Contact Details [18:05] I guess I would have alternatively expected it in Summary [18:06] kiko: ping? [18:06] LaserJock, cool, thanks [18:07] mars: I wouldn't really consider openID to be a "Contact Detail", along with gpg key [18:08] although gpg key I can see marginally if you wanted to encrypt a message to somebody [18:08] but am I really gonna use an openID to contact somebody? [18:09] LaserJock, pong? [18:11] * mars ponders moving the link [18:16] New bug: #211390 in launchpad-buildd "sbuild sigsevs on insane build-depends" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211390 [18:25] New bug: #211394 in launchpad-bazaar "OOPS deleting a branch" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211394 === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado [18:51] cprov: so, maybe you could exactly tell me what should I do to build openoffice.org 2.4 (see https://edge.launchpad.net/~mantas/+archive/+build/554105 ) ? [18:52] mantiena-baltix: I've superseded it manually, it won't build with those B-d. [18:53] mantiena-baltix: I suspect that if you remove the stuff in [] from the B-d it has a chance to work. [18:54] cprov: so, I should edit control.in file manually instead of using default file from Ubuntu Hardy ? [18:54] mantiena-baltix: apparently yes, sbuild gets really upset with that. [18:57] ==> Come join the LP meeting in 2 minutes over at #launchpad-meeting! [19:01] cprov: it's strange why amd64 and lpia doesn't have building problems with the same build-deps :-/ [19:02] mantiena-baltix: people are hunting a perl bug, maybe that. [19:02] Hei all, me again :) How long does it take for the .deb to show up in a ppa after it has exited the build queue/built? [19:02] less than 20 min [19:03] cprov: thanks :) [19:03] * jussio1 was getting impatient ;) [19:07] cprov: why Status of failed https://edge.launchpad.net/~mantas/+archive/+build/554105 build is "Currently building" ? [19:09] mantiena-baltix: fixed. [19:10] cprov: you fixed sbuild bug or only status ? ;) [19:11] New bug: #211423 in malone "empty email triggering OOPS in the email interface" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211423 [19:11] mantiena-baltix: only the bug status, I don't have perl-fu [19:24] cprov: btw, could you explain why lpia openoffice.org build fails ? Look at http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13097080/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-lpia.openoffice.org_1%3A2.4.0-3baltix0_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [19:26] mantiena-baltix: the b-d is conflicting, I guess. Ask on #motu, they may be able to help you better than me. === Rinchen changed the topic of #launchpad to: Beta Team: Known issues with OpenID. || https://launchpad.net/ || Next meeting (all welcome): Thu 10 April 2008, 1800UTC #launchpad-meeting | Help: https://help.launchpad.net | Questions: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com [19:58] changed next mtg date === Rinchen changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ || Next meeting (all welcome): Thu 10 April 2008, 1800UTC #launchpad-meeting | Help: https://help.launchpad.net | Questions: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com [19:59] openid url issue fixed === doko_ is now known as doko [20:52] umm, I'm not really sure how to add information to a Question [20:52] my two options are "Add Answer" and "Add Information Request" when I'm not doing either [20:54] any help? [20:55] LaserJock, choose one and fire ;) [20:56] does it matter which one I choose? [20:56] I assumed that they would throw flags [20:57] either you're contributing to the answer or trying to understand what the problem is :) [20:57] I was just trying to add more info [20:58] not exactly answer and I know what the problem is [20:58] so add answer [20:58] alright, that seems so wrong, but if that's the way it's supposed to go [20:58] I just thought "add answer" would close it [20:59] the person needs to mark it solved [21:00] oh, I see === kiko is now known as kiko-afk [21:07] hi [21:25] New bug: #211489 in malone "It shouldn't be possible to select Savannah as a bug tracker type when editing a bug tracker" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211489 === RAOF_ is now known as RAOF === matsubara is now known as matsubara-afk === kiko-afk is now known as kiko === matsubara-afk is now known as matsubara [22:15] New bug: #211526 in launchpad-bazaar "Codebrowse log directory has unnecessarily permissive permissions" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211526 === salgado is now known as salgado-afk === fta_ is now known as fta