[00:03] <J-_> foo: that gave, drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2008-04-02 03:01 /var/www
[00:04] <foo> J-_: http://www.dartmouth.edu/~rc/help/faq/permissions.html
[00:04] <foo> J-_: Alright, read that and it'll tell you how to read that output so you can get to what you want to
[00:05] <kirkland> owh: fwiw, diffs usually end in .diff, rather than begin with them :-)
[00:06] <kirkland> owh: at least vim will syntax highlight as a diff/patch if they end in .diff or .patch ;-)
[00:07] <owh> kirkland: Tah. I tried calling you about it last week but you were not around and I forgot to follow it up. The apache patch I sent you was the wrong way around, that is from new to old :(
[00:07] <owh> kirkland: I fixed it on the bug report :)
[00:07] <kirkland> owh: it's not a big deal, just thought I'd mention
[00:07] <kirkland> owh: the actually code being there is more important
[00:08] <owh> kirkland: Yup. Tah, It was more a function of my automated script. It allowed me to parse/filter/etc.
[00:08] <kirkland> owh: fair enough
[00:08] <owh> kirkland: Yeah, we're discussing how to deal with Debian in ubuntu-bugs atm.
[00:30]  * faulkes- is not happy
[00:30]  * faulkes- is not happy about missing todays meeting
[00:30] <kgoetz> :(
[00:31]  * faulkes- is not happy about a missing 2600 cisco and a missing 2900 switch
[00:31] <kgoetz> never mind. i missed it too
[00:31] <faulkes-> on the plus side, after spending far too much time, I did manage to finally our iscsi box on the network so it can be configured
[00:31] <faulkes-> 6.0TB in it too
[00:32] <kgoetz> "to finally our" ... missing 'get'?
[00:32] <faulkes-> just a very long day of being wedged between a 2 ton AC unit, a rack cabinet and the white noise of 2k sq of servers
[00:33] <faulkes-> yes, forgive me, I missed the get ;)
[00:33] <Deeps> ouch
[00:33] <faulkes-> yeah, it was all kinds of awesome
[00:34] <faulkes-> apparently nobody knew that we had a cisco 7505
[00:34] <Deeps> shit like that is why i quit being a dc monkey, heh
[00:34] <kgoetz> hehehe
[00:34]  * faulkes- is *not* a dc monkey
[00:34] <Deeps> you spent the day in a dc, sounds like a monkey to me ;)
[00:34] <faulkes-> unfortunately, I was forced to go in
[00:35] <kgoetz> "i was forced to! my pants kept falling down."
[00:35] <faulkes-> I'm not a politician ;)
[00:35] <Deeps> heh, monkey for a day aint so bad
[00:35] <faulkes-> more like janitor
[00:35] <faulkes-> because 2 people were fired over this entire mess
[00:36] <Deeps> whoops
[00:36] <kgoetz> :O
[00:36] <Deeps> bleh, .ca
[00:36] <faulkes-> yeah well, add it to there lessons learned
[00:36] <kgoetz> thats a pretty messy mess
[00:36] <Deeps> (im unemployed currently and it sounds like whereever you work might be hiring now ;))
[00:36] <faulkes-> heh
[00:36] <Deeps> but .ca's too far
[00:37]  * faulkes- recalls we do have a fl.us head office
[00:37]  * faulkes- is waiting for the .uk office though
[00:39] <Deeps> i'm in .es
[00:39] <Deeps> and looking for telework atm
[00:40] <faulkes-> depends, what is your skill set like
[00:42] <Deeps> umm, 2-4 years linux experience, java, php, sql, bash, basic python, ccna level (but not yet certified) cisco skills
[00:42] <Deeps> a bachelors degree but few people tend to care about that already despite it being only 8 months
[01:21] <rhineheart_m> how to determine if fastcgi has been installed to my server?
[01:29] <rhineheart_m> can anybody here guide me on how to install fastcgi?
[01:30] <PanzerMKZ> fastcgi in blender?
[01:32] <rhineheart_m> fastcgi for apache
[01:33] <PanzerMKZ> go to #apache
[01:33] <kgoetz> rhineheart_m: tried running `apt-cache search fastcgi` yet?
[01:33] <rhineheart_m> not yet. that would if I have it installed already or not, right?
[01:34] <kgoetz> `dpkg -l |grep cgi` to list packages related to cgi
[01:41] <rhineheart_m> kgoetz, I got this one: ii  libfcgi-perl                          0.67-2                   FastCGI Perl module
[01:42] <kgoetz> rhineheart_m: now `apt-cache show libfcgi-perl`
[01:46] <kgoetz> rhineheart_m: dont PM me
[01:46] <rhineheart_m> kgoetz, that was the content
[01:46] <kgoetz> rhineheart_m: i dont care. its for your information
[01:49] <rhineheart_m> kgoetz, okay. it doesn't help
[02:10] <Silvano> are there any noticable improvements from ubuntu server 7.10 to 8.04?
[02:13] <kgoetz> LTS support
[02:13] <andguent> I'm curious to know the same, all I know for sure is that when possible, it seems best to keep up with the latest, Ubuntu developers move too fast to leave your system completely alone for years :)
[02:13] <kgoetz> with luck it'll be more stable too (gutsy isnt renoun for its stability)
[02:14] <kgoetz> although that is mainly desktopland. serverland seems to be ok
[02:15] <flyback> oh really?
[02:15] <flyback> thx
[02:15] <flyback> you just solved a worrysome issue with 2 of my sisters
[02:15] <flyback> err systems
[02:15]  * flyback hates trying to type few mins after waking up from a deep sleep
[02:15] <kgoetz> heh
[02:15] <flyback> ugh
[02:15] <flyback> brain rattle
[02:15] <Silvano> so if i've already got 8.04, and am about to reinstall on a different harddrive, there should be no reason or benifit to go with 7.10 then?
[02:16] <flyback> thyat was a seriously wacky dream too
[02:16] <flyback> although beats the last 5 yrs of paxil nightmare hell :/
[02:16] <flyback> anyways
[02:16] <Silvano> lol
[02:16] <andguent> if 8.04 works, use it, it will be officially released soon enough
[02:16] <flyback> I have had a hell of a time trying to put the right kernel in 6.06lts
[02:17] <Silvano> sounds good andguent. thanks for your advice :D
[02:17] <flyback> ended up just having to remove all the stuff with kernel or linux in it then apt-get the right one based on the dpkg list I got from a temp vm I setup
[02:17] <kgoetz> flyback: if you can afford a month of 'work in progress', then go with 8.04
[02:17] <flyback> na it's just to run vmware server
[02:17] <flyback> i've decided on fedora at home guys no offence but some stuff rubb3ed me the wrong way
[02:18] <flyback> but stuck with 6.06lts at work :P
[02:18]  * kgoetz feels no pain
[02:18] <kgoetz> (then again, i dont have to suffer fedora)
[02:18] <flyback> heh I started 3with redhat 2.1 back in the day
[02:18]  * flyback beats kgoetz with his walker
[02:19]  * kgoetz swats at flyback 
[02:19] <andguent> Silvano: when it is officially released and stable, do an apt-get update; apt-get upgrade (or other similar function from another favorite package manager)
[02:19] <flyback> not a good idea :)
[02:19] <flyback> a flyback is a type of high voltage pulse transformer
[02:19] <flyback> turns 100-200 volts into 35,000
[02:19] <flyback> it's what energizes a picture tube
[02:19] <kgoetz> flyback: :) do want
[02:19]  * flyback bzzzzz kgoetz
[02:20]  * kgoetz smokes
[02:20] <kgoetz> (not literally, fwiw)
[02:20] <flyback> na it's about 0 current, you can't boost voltage magically for free :P
[02:20] <flyback> but it will still knock you on your ass
[02:22] <flyback> how the hell do I tell what kernel to use what I got dual p4 xeon blades
[02:22] <flyback> and why is there likes 10 packages
[02:22] <Silvano> i almost don't want to reinstall, got things together fairly nice and the way I want so far, minus my actual site up and running. But its on a 5 gig hd, and ive aquired a 40 gig for this box :S
[02:22] <flyback> so ghost it
[02:22] <kgoetz> flyback: not sure i follow your qustion
[02:23] <kgoetz> rsync ;)
[02:23] <rhineheart_m> I guess webmin is already been maintained
[02:23] <flyback> ok apprentely the installer being scripted by this pxe boot vm installed a kernel that can't do smp
[02:24] <flyback> so I had to force in the right one
[02:24] <Silvano> rhineheart_m: supposedly, it doesnt work well with ubuntu, i've got it up and running, and it seems fine.
[02:24] <flyback> and I just had a hell of a time knowing what was what I finally resorted to doing a clean install to a vm and making a script to apt-get those files
[02:25] <rhineheart_m> Silvano, yeah.. I agree with that.. if you just know how to handle config files.. then webmin is really a great stuff! I love its file manager.. it uses https and can be configured what port you will be using.. so I found it more secure this time than before
[02:25] <flyback> after I dpkg --get-selections |grep kernel to a file and again made it intoa  script that removed all that
[02:25] <andguent> Silvano: there are multiple good drive clone utilities out there, sometimes a new disk in retail package actually has the software included, there are definitely ways around having to start over. -- A second option is learning how to grab the appropriate configs from the old drive and placing them on the new drive to see what you can "restore from backup"
[02:26] <flyback> nm
[02:26] <flyback> my brain is fried
[02:26] <kgoetz> does 'just install the smp kernel' help?
[02:27] <flyback> I think I just did like kernel-server and that worked
[02:27] <Silvano> thanks andguent, but although I don't want to, I think reinstalling will be good for me, as Im finally starting to understand some key commands and linux concepts :D
[02:27] <flyback> I think the virtual machine I used that takes a iso of several os's and scripts it for pxe installs did somethjing\
[02:27] <andguent> Silvano: just keep that old drive intact, you can always mount it as a secondary drive and take a peek at your ftp daemon config file or whatever
[02:28] <flyback> they are headless blades
[02:28] <Silvano> great idea...didnt think about that!
[02:28] <flyback> it's just there was like 3 ways to get the same thing when I was looking at packages to install for the kernel
[02:28] <flyback> and no explanation
[02:38] <rhineheart_m> what does this warning mean (chkrookit output): Checking `lkm'... find: WARNING: Hard link count is wrong for /proc: this may be a bug in your filesystem driver.  Automatically turning on find's -noleaf option. Earlier results may have failed to include directories that should have been searched.
[02:39] <kgoetz> what part Uisnt it self explanitory? :|
[02:39]  * kgoetz suspects its a JFGI
[02:40] <flyback> = *CANUCKED*
[02:45]  * flyback goes to cook a steak, bbl
[02:46]  * kgoetz wonders what a canucked is
[02:46] <kgoetz> bbs though
[02:46] <flyback> it's a verb :P
[02:47] <J-_> I know a canuck is a Canadian, I am one.
[02:50] <J-_> flyback is cooking a steak in 2 channels. /me giggles
[03:08]  * flyback bites J-_
[03:08] <flyback> canuck
[03:08] <flyback> canuck
[03:08] <flyback> canuck
[03:08] <flyback> canuck
[03:08] <flyback> that's for william shatner's greatest hits, and other canadian acts of terrroism!
[03:09]  * J-_ hides
[03:22] <foo> hehe
[03:22] <foo> J-_: Get that perms issue sorted?
[03:22] <J-_> foo: It was for a friend =) She got it sorted. =)
[03:23] <foo> J-_: ah, gotcha :)
[03:34] <stiv2k> why is mysqld_safe taking up ALL my resources ALL the time?
[03:36]  * flyback bbl
[03:37] <stiv2k> flyback: you're just on every freakin channel aren't ya? :P
[03:46] <kgoetz> lol
[03:46] <kgoetz> hes a spy
[03:47] <stiv2k> lol
[03:58] <stiv2k> so, anybody know?
[03:59] <kgoetz> no i dont. i just kill -9'd it
[04:03] <flyback> yes
[04:03] <flyback> do I know you?
[04:09] <stiv2k> flyback: not personally
[04:09] <stiv2k> flyback: #electronics
[04:09] <flyback> oh ok
[04:09] <stiv2k> flyback: do you know what this mysqld_safe is?
[04:10] <flyback> not really
[04:10] <stiv2k> hm
[05:00] <JaxxMaxx> it's the safe mode of the SQL daemon
[05:01] <JaxxMaxx> No idea why it would be running instead of plain mysqld
[05:01] <foo> what do you see?
[05:15] <JaxxMaxx> Hmm, work PC must be having network issues
[05:15]  * flyback notes getting 91% isosproypl alcohol into a wound where the skin is skin in 1/2, *really* *really* *REALLY* freaking hurts
[05:28] <Silvano> what ftp server do you guys reccomend for a lamp server?
[05:31] <foo> I like proftpd
[05:31] <foo> Everyone will tell you something different, though :)
[05:31] <foo> your options: pureftpd, proftpd, vsftpd
[05:33] <Silvano> I've tried vsftpd, and wasn't too sure on configuring it (im a linux newb) so I think i will try proftpd as I was browsing through http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79588 this tutorial when you mentioned it :D
[05:33] <calcmandan> hi guys. i'm about to pull an old box out of the closet and play with mail servers for our small business.  anyone have a good recommendation? something where my brother can comfortably use his precious outlook.
[05:34] <calcmandan> the workstations around the shop are xp pro. he has a unix server used for diagnostics, and untouchable.
[05:34] <kgoetz> if all you want is mail any mailer will do
[05:34] <Silvano> thunderbird >outlook imo :D
[05:34] <kgoetz> * > outlook
[05:34] <Silvano> lol
[05:34] <calcmandan> kgoetz: yeah, he wants to use his calendar and shit.
[05:35] <calcmandan> Silvano: thunderbird > outlook. kontact > outlook...
[05:35] <kgoetz> calcmandan: so he wants more then a mail server
[05:35] <calcmandan> kgoetz: well, i'm looking at a server that is specifically for mail, and maybe a few other things.
[05:36] <foo> calcmandan: Outlook doesn't depend on which mail servers you want, you just need something with IMAP/POP.
[05:36] <foo> calcmandan: personally, I'd just setup google hosted for him and do something else with your time.
[05:36] <calcmandan> yeah, I'm aware of that.
[05:36] <kgoetz> foo: depends how you feel about your data
[05:36] <foo> (unless there is a good reason not to use it)
[05:36] <foo> kgoetz: right
[05:36] <kgoetz> calcmandan: its the 'other things' that are really casual and easy to throw in the sentence that make the difference
[05:37] <kgoetz> bbs
[05:37] <calcmandan> kgoetz: sorry bro.
[05:39] <Silvano> how do i access a local ubuntu box by hostname from a windows box?
[05:40] <foo> Silvano: you could hard code it in your hosts file on windows, or tell windows to use linux box as DNS server and have the hostname resolve to the linux box
[05:41] <Silvano> foo: theres no way to automatically broadcast it?
[05:43] <foo> Silvano: hm, not sure to be honest... let me know if you find a way
[05:45] <Silvano> will do. I honestly cant remember setting hostnames for my windows boxes in the router, but they are there. I assumed that they were broadcasted somehow, and was just wondering if it was possible with the linux box. itd make it much easier than typing the ip tons of times a day :D
[05:45] <foo> what are you typing it for?
[05:46] <Silvano> ssh http testing ftp testing etc. just trying to get it set up, configured and tested
[05:47] <kgoetz> Silvano: setup key based ssh :)
[05:47] <kgoetz> Silvano: avahi advertises hostnames, fwiw
[05:47] <kgoetz> avahi/mdns
[05:47] <Silvano> itd take 10 secs to set in the router, just trying to see if it was something simple I didnt know about
[05:49] <Silvano> kgoetz: avahi looks nice...will try it out in the morning.
[05:49] <kgoetz> Silvano: if your into that sort of thing its nice. cant say i like it
[05:49] <Silvano> off to bed, thanks for your advice and conversation, and see you guys tomorrow.
[05:50] <kgoetz> sleep well mate
[05:50] <Silvano> might make things more 'user friendly' for me is all :D
[05:50] <foo> Silvano: oh...
[05:50] <foo> Silvano: yeah, you should just change c:/windows/drivers/etc/hosts I think it is
[05:50] <foo> anywho, see ya
[05:50] <kgoetz> for whoever was asking about calednaring: http://trac.calendarserver.org/projects/calendarserver
[05:50] <Silvano> thanks, and ttyl :D
[05:51] <kgoetz> i'm hopeful for that project, just not tried it yet
[05:51] <kgoetz> foo: Silvano windows/system23/etc
[05:51] <kgoetz> *32
[05:51] <foo> kgoetz: ah, it's official, you're a windows user.
[05:51]  * foo bans kgoetz 
[05:51] <foo> :)
[05:51] <kgoetz> :o
[05:52]  * kgoetz stabs foo for spreading such evil thoughts about him
[05:52] <foo> hahaha
[05:52] <kgoetz> hehe
[06:58] <Jeeves_> Morning
[07:06] <kgoetz> morning
[07:14]  * flyback right eye is blood red and almost swelled shut, yep it's springtime
[07:18] <kgoetz> :/
[07:18] <kgoetz> almost winter here
[07:34]  * flyback goodnight
[07:55] <_ruben> morning :)
[08:00] <kraut> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KANI2dpXLw
[09:06] <\sh> moin moin
[09:07] <\sh> guys, does anyone ran ubuntu-server daily (from yesterday or older) on a machine with BCM57xx gbit NICs? I just installed it, and d-i tells me, I don't have any NICs anymore ;) lspci says otherwise
[09:10] <kraut> moin
[09:24] <fromport>  \sh nope e1000 here
[09:24] <\sh> fromport, I wonder where the tg3,ko is hiding...means: which udeb it's in
[09:29] <\sh> gnarf
[09:29] <fromport> find /lib/modules -name tg3\*
[09:30] <fromport> does that find something ? are the modules there ?
[09:30] <\sh> fromport, the problem is in d-i
[09:30] <\sh> it loads the udebs from the cd
[09:30] <\sh> and somehow it can't find the tg3.ko
[09:31] <\sh> could be a glitch in cd makeing...or a packaging bug...
[09:31] <fromport> ah .. i misread, the daily cd image.... sorry...
[09:31] <fromport> i installed one of a few days old and keep it up date daily...
[11:15] <n_a_u_t> hi. is there a chance to use a promise tx2000 ata raid with ubuntu server 7.1?
[11:18] <dthacker-work> n_a_u_t: you should probably google that question.
[13:34] <youngmusi1> hey. I have a server with a 100Mbit and a Gigabit ethernet card. But i don't know which is which... Is there a command to see that?
[13:38] <Deeps> youngmusi1: dmesg should shed some light, as should ethtool (supported link speeds)
[13:41] <_ruben> ethtool
[13:41] <dthacker-work> what _ruben said
[13:47] <foolano> youngmusi1: mii-tool may help you too
[13:51] <AnRkey> I am trying to setup a software raid 5 here. How do I remove all raid configurations from the drives?
[13:52] <AnRkey> whenever I try to recreate the raid setup during the installation of ubuntu server and I try to configure the raid, the installer adds the old raid partitions to the volumes and I can't remove them
[13:52] <AnRkey> i want to start fresh by wiping the drives
[13:53] <AnRkey> any help would be cool
[14:07] <youngmusi1> Deeps: ok, thank you
[14:08] <Treenaks> soren: have you seen bug 205011, and do you think it's likely to be fixed before release? (I almost have confirmation here, as soon as mkfs of 1TB of disk is done :))
[14:08] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 205011 in lvm2 "LVM2 doesn't recognise 'virtio' virtual disks (/dev/vd*)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/205011
[14:16] <AnRkey> is there anyone available to help me with my software raid?
[14:31] <zul> hey foolano
[14:32] <foolano> hi zul
[15:07]  * AnRkey is now an mdadm mastah!
[15:09] <W8TAH> hi folks -- this my not be the right place to ask this question -- but im looking for a simple / easy to operate utility to quantify the speed of one of my network links here -- can someone suggest such a program
[15:17] <_ruben> W8TAH: you mean measuring your network usage?
[15:17] <_ruben> if so: iftop
[15:18] <W8TAH> hi _ruben no - -i mean in terms of what the line can transmit -- its a bit of a far run - i have 1gb switches at both ends - -but i need to know in general terms if the line is actually running 1gb or something less
[15:20] <W8TAH> im considering moving a number of our servers to the far end of the line and need to know if speeds are going to be badly impacted
[15:28] <_ruben> W8TAH: ah .. i ran into a nice tool for that quite some time ago .. cant recall its name tho :(
[15:28] <W8TAH> ok
[15:31] <_ruben> but as long as you stay within the specs you should be ok i'd say .. 100meters is the max for cat5/5e/6 afaik
[15:35] <W8TAH> ya - the run is about 230 feet --
[15:36] <faulkes-> yes, 100m for cat5 is the bicsi spec
[15:36] <W8TAH> i just dont need issues -- and before i commit to a datacenter move i wanna be sure the line can handle it
[15:41] <_ruben> the only real test is a live test ...
[15:59] <W8TAH> ok
[15:59] <W8TAH> it was worth a try i guess
[17:15] <c0ldfusion> I don't know if any of you are directly responsible, but thanks anyway for such an excellent project. I have two servers in production (so far) running ubuntu server. I love it!
[17:22] <foo> c0ldfusion: Awesome!
[17:27] <amen51> hi, a commond line question:
[17:27] <amen51> how to pipe a file to a command that usually accepts the file as an argument
[17:28] <amen51> e.g. evince file1
[17:28] <amen51> we want to pipe file1 to evince
[17:29] <amen51> anybody?
[17:29] <leonel> you need that the program  can  read from pipes .
[17:29] <amen51> is there a command-line related channel?
[17:30] <leonel> in that case  maybe evince can be controled by gnome / corba / dbus or something
[17:30] <amen51> can you give a specific command line example
[17:30] <amen51> e.g. cat file1 | evince does not seem to work
[17:32] <amen51> thanks anyways
[17:32] <c0ldfusion> you know you can redirect standard input
[17:32] <c0ldfusion> to the program
[17:32] <c0ldfusion> not sure if that would help
[17:33] <amen51> i guess something like evince do not read from standard input (not sure though)
[17:33] <c0ldfusion> try evince < file1
[17:33] <c0ldfusion> yeh maybe not
[17:33] <c0ldfusion> I don't even know what that is ;)
[17:38] <amen51> thanks again
[17:38] <dthacker-work> program < fileyouareinputting
[17:39] <dthacker-work> too late, of course
[17:39] <c0ldfusion> heh
[17:49] <nxvl> mathiaz: i update the patch you ask me to update
[17:51] <nxvl> mathiaz: Bug #159371
[17:51] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 159371 in sysvinit "Default MOTD for server should point to documentation URL" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/159371
[18:20] <flyback> http://www.digitimes.com/mobos/a20080401PR205.html
[19:23]  * flyback bbl going to go get my allergy shot
[20:01] <flyback> quick question
[20:01] <flyback> what's the main kernel package to install when installing the default kernel
[20:02] <flyback> apprentely the installer script I used goofed and installed one that doesn't do smp
[20:02] <flyback> I kinda figured out manually how to do this but I am stuck with a lot of stuff listed in dkpg as "deinstalled" and not sure if it's 100%
[20:02] <infinity> "linux-server" for servers, "linux-generic" for desktops.
[20:02] <flyback> ok thx
[20:03] <flyback> anything you know of in the server kernel that might clash with vmware server?
[20:04] <infinity> Nah.
[20:04] <flyback> thx :)
[21:45]  * faulkes- prepares iscsi
[22:13]  * flyback bbl, going to clean some circuit boards 
[22:22]  * flyback is getting fed up with ubuntu and gnome bugs
[22:50] <nxvl> do we have any certification of hardware?
[22:50] <nxvl> i mean from IBM or HP servers
[22:59] <Loosewheel> Hi everyone
[22:59] <silvanozzzz> hello
[23:02] <Loosewheel> silvano: do you know how to create a link in the index.html file? I'm trying to link a Open Office Presentation ?
[23:03]  * flyback stuffs his freshly washed circuit boards into a silver static bag and places the opening near a heater to dry aka "shake-n-bake"
[23:05] <silvano> hmm, not sure. what extension is it?
[23:08] <Loosewheel> Well I put it together with oo, and the exported it as .html. I can link to www using oo writer, but can't figure out how to make a link to grab this file from the web page.
[23:10] <silvano> if its just an html document, you could try html to link it http://www.quackit.com/html/codes/html_link_code.cfm
[23:12] <Tatster> Hi all. I'm trying to recover from a disk failure from a raid 1 mirror.  The outputs from my various LVM commands are at http://pastebin.ca/970152 - the issue is my logical volumes are showing as "Not available"  and I can't work out why/how to fix!
[23:12] <Tatster> Can anyone suggest any ideas?
[23:13] <RPC> Hello, everyone.
[23:13] <Loosewheel> hi
[23:14] <RPC> Is there someone in here who would be willing to basically hold my hand through a linux install?
[23:16] <Loosewheel> silvano: Thanks, I'll chew on that for a while.
[23:16] <silvano> np, hope it helps
[23:17] <RPC> guess that's a no
[23:18] <silvano> RPC: its fairly simple if your installing ubuntu 8.04 desktop. I believe its a series of 7 steps, asking names, passwords, timezones, keyboard and region layouts etc.
[23:19] <RPC> Yea, until somethign gives an error...
[23:19] <Tatster> i think there may also be some good guides on www.howtoforge.com
[23:19] <silvano> your gettting an error during the install?
[23:20] <Tatster> If anyone can help with LVM issues I'd be really appreciative
[23:21] <RPC> no, im having a lot of things not work after install
[23:22] <Tatster> RPC: what things are not working after your install ?
[23:22] <RPC> wifi, vid card, that i've noticed
[23:22] <RPC> volume switch
[23:23] <Tatster> Which version of Ubuntu are you installing ?
[23:23] <RPC> ubuntu 7.1
[23:23] <RPC> but i actually have been trying with Mandriva most recently
[23:23] <RPC> with the same issues
[23:25] <Tatster> the desktop or server version of 7.10 ?
[23:25] <RPC> desktop, i assume
[23:28] <Tatster> ok,  I literally arrived in this channel a few minutes ago, and someone more regular please correct me if I'm wrong - this channel is aimed at Ubuntu server specific issues, desktop talk is normally discussed in #ubuntu
[23:32] <Loosewheel> Tatster: Sorry I can't help....but http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2006/04/27/managing-disk-space-with-lvm.html?page1, may help.
[23:37] <Tatster> Loosewheel: that looks like a good reference article.  Doesn't cover my issues but good reading none the less
[23:38] <Loosewheel> Thought maybe the commands on page 2 might get you there.