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[00:00] <icanhasadmin> Steven2: did you try the package i suggested before?
[00:00] <sjovan> Steven2: i have installed xmms....
[00:00] <bod_> hey guys, when writing a script to use as a 'nautilus script' i need to have gksudo in it, now this is fine, the script is to chmod 777 whochever file i use it on, the first time i ran it it was fine and worked, but it now doesnt work because its no longer prompting me, in the same way you can use sudo for 5 mins or whatever it is and it only asks you once,.,. how can i make gksudo prompt me for a password 'everytime' in this script?
[00:00] <SliMM> hmm, foodbot is quite good
[00:00] <maarek_> anyone using  the new Adobe  AIR SDK
[00:00] <maarek_> ?
[00:00] <Steven2> icanhasadmin: I've been downloading so many packages. Which one was that?
[00:01] <icanhasadmin> Steven2: qt3-apps-dev
[00:01] <bod_> Codedragon, try removing all usb devices
[00:01] <maarek_> from the adobe  labs
[00:01] <maarek_> it just came  out monday
[00:01] <Codedragon> icanhasadmin: I dunno, i tried the beta 8.10 version and it did that same even when I picked the acpi problem one too
[00:01] <Steven2> icanhasadmin: I already downloaded and installed that one.
[00:01] <icanhasadmin> Steven2: 1 sec
[00:01] <Steven2> OKies
[00:02] <aguitel_> how i rezice my partition ?
[00:02] <bod_> !gparted
[00:02] <ubotu> GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[00:02] <billy> if i have a windows comp and ubuntu comp on the same network and they can ping each other, is there any way to send messages between the two?
[00:02] <linkinxp> why it says Cannot Update Select Partial Updating (when i try to update the packages) ???
[00:02] <Steven2> icanhasadmin: I just downloaded all the packages I could find with qt and -dev in them. So I got that one for sure.
[00:02] <bod_> billy, ntmk without a messagein program
[00:02] <icanhasadmin> Steven2: wait are you on KDE?
[00:03] <billy> bod_: huh?
[00:03] <Shadow420> !java
[00:03] <ubotu> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[00:03] <bod_> billy, not to my knowledge, without a chat program, like xchat or msn
[00:03] <Steven2> icanhasadmin: No I don't believe so. I think it's still gnome running compiz.
[00:03] <billy> bod_: oh okay
[00:03] <billy> bod_: thanks
[00:04] <icanhasadmin> Steven2: you MIGHT want to try a ,/configure --with-qt-includes="path to your qt includes"
[00:04] <bod_> billy, but, it wouldnt be hard to program one,. if it can send pings then it can recieve packats, so i would have thought with a bit of know how its possible
[00:04] <Steven2> icanhasadmin: I don't know where qt includes is.
[00:04] <bod_> icanhasadmin, were u meant to put ./configure?
[00:05] <Steven2> bod_: I figured as much.
[00:05] <troxor> billy: smbclient can do net send, iirc
[00:05] <bod_> ;~)
[00:05] <billy> troxor: iirc?
[00:05] <bod_> if i remember correcxtly
[00:05] <bod_> correctly
[00:06] <tclineks> could someon look at my apt.log, i'm trying to upgrade to hardy but cant' make much sense about this error, apparently with openoffice http://dpaste.com/42855/
[00:06] <aj_> Could someone tell me how I can remove all icons from my desktop other than those I specifically want? (I basically do not want anything on screen except for a few application launchers)?
[00:06] <icanhasadmin> Steven2: you make a valid point, honestly i'm not even sure where they would be, but if you can find them that just might work :D
[00:06] <tclineks> aj_: which icons arey ou talking about?
[00:06] <andrzej> hello every1! any1 knows what does it mean: "NOTICE: Initial Lua setup failed. Cannot continue."????
[00:06] <bod_> how can i make gksudo prompt for a password 'everytime' its used, (even in quick succession) ??
[00:06] <phreck> So why was hardy delayed 3 months? The beta that jacked up?
[00:06] <aj_> tclineks: Specifically the icons for "Computer" and the home folder.
[00:06] <icanhasadmin> phreck: april fools...
[00:07] <bod_> andrzej, i think lua files are game code?
[00:07] <phreck> lol damn.
[00:07] <phreck> i suck.
[00:07] <icanhasadmin> :D
[00:07] <LjL> !language
[00:07] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[00:07] <tclineks> aj_: gconf-editor > apps > nautilus
[00:07] <nikrud> tclineks you should check with #ubuntu+1 for hardy questions
[00:07] <phreck> heh
[00:07] <aj_> tclineks: I'm setting up an account for my nephew and want to really simplify the interface.
[00:07] <tclineks> nikrud: thankyou
[00:07] <Steven2> icanhasadmin: I ran a search. 'No files found.'
[00:07] <phreck> uh. did i just break a language rule?
[00:07] <Odd-rationale> bod_: well with sudo you can do: sudo -k I don't know about gksudo
[00:07] <andrzej> yes, im trying to install QW and i get this
[00:07] <aj_> tclineks: Nautilus... okay.  I had looked through gconf but didn't know WHERE to look for it.  Thanks.
[00:07] <deniz__> any1 know how to use imagemagick?
[00:07] <icanhasadmin> nikrud: you have any suggestions for Steven's issue?
[00:07] <Steven2> icanhasadmin: You know what I just want a CD mount program. Is there another that's easier to install?
[00:07] <billy> why can i ping my windows comp but i can't see any of the files on it?
[00:07] <tclineks> deniz__: google it
[00:07] <troxor> bod_: set timestamp_timeout to 0
[00:08] <deniz__> tclineks, the guides ive found dont state the ovious which to me isnt ovious..
[00:08] <phreck> billy, make sure you have all of the services needed for windows filesharing installed.
[00:08] <deniz__> tclineks, i ruined that sentence but ya
[00:08] <icanhasadmin> Steven2: like for virtual cd drives?
[00:08] <Codedragon> I would love to get rid of my windows but if I can't get ubuntu working I don't know what else to do. I burned the image I downloaded to a cd and booted off of it and the same thing. I am running out of things to try. I got a 19" widescreen LCD running off of a X850pro video card. I don't know if that is the problem or not though..
[00:08] <billy> phreck: what are all of those services?
[00:08] <bod_> Odd-rationale, i need it to prompt everytime because my chmod script doesnt work if it doesnt prompt,.,. il look into the parameters ty,.,. troxor,. i need to do it within the script only, i dont want to affect the terminal gksudo
[00:08] <phreck> Billy: Google  knows better than I.
[00:08] <phreck> =P
[00:08] <tclineks> deniz__: http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/ ?
[00:09] <bastid_raZor> i have two ubuntu boxes both 7.10.. i'm wanting to have the 2nd box automount /mp3 from the 1st box.. any handy guides or hints?
[00:09] <Steven2> icanhasadmin: Yes. Like Alcohol 120(win) and Daemon Tools(win).
[00:09] <billy> !samba
[00:09] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[00:09] <nikrud> icanhasadmin I just sat back down, and saw your bit about setting explicit path for qt includes. I don't have it installed, but I think it's /usr/include/qt3
[00:09] <phreck> =D
[00:09] <troxor> bod_: sudo -K ?
[00:09] <bastid_raZor> both are on the same network ^^
[00:09] <phreck> billy: there ya go.
[00:09] <icanhasadmin> Steven2: i THINK arson does that? you might want to try nikrud's suggestion for the qt location
[00:09] <Odd-rationale> bod_: in other words you want to prompt for passwd every time you run script?
[00:09] <bod_> Odd-rationale, yes,.,. easy or not?
[00:10] <maarek_> which IRC program  is  transparent and melds with  the  background?
[00:10] <Odd-rationale> bod_: dunno. never done it...
[00:10] <nikrud> Steven2 you might try gmountiso (I never really paid attention to exactly what you were compiling ;)
[00:10] <Steven2> Nope it still says Qt libraries not found.
[00:10] <bod_> Odd-rationale, the man page says about sudo -k as if it resets the timer, but it seems as though i need to run sudo -k && sudo   to get the prompt
[00:10] <troxor> maarek_: irssi on a transparent/borderless terminal ?
[00:10] <SliMM> Steven2: you can mount cd images just as you mount storage devices, using the mount command
[00:11] <Odd-rationale> bod_: correct
[00:11] <invalidsyntax> when i goto install an application it says it cant find sources and I am connected to the net?
[00:11] <nikrud> Steven2  ls /usr/include , is one of those qt something?
[00:11] <bod_> Odd-rationale, ok cheers, il give it a go
[00:11] <Codedragon> anyone? please help me...:(
[00:11] <RiotGeek> I'm trying to help an ubuntu user in #apache. Can someone please tell me the def documentroot in ubuntu?
[00:11] <Odd-rationale> bod_: ok
[00:11] <SliMM> Steven2: you can even find scripts to place in the nautilus scripts folder ro get a context menu entry for mounting images, when you right-click them
[00:11] <Exteris> RiotGeek, /var/www ?
[00:12] <troxor> Codedragon: what's the problem?
[00:12] <nikrud> RiotGeek /var/www . If you haven't played with debian based apache configs, you will be confused ;)
[00:12] <icanhasadmin> SliMM: ... you can mount an .iso file with mount? and have it completely uncompress and auto run all the info properly with full controls? if that works it's serious news to me
[00:12] <invalidsyntax> is there a way to restore the source.list
[00:12] <Codedragon> I would love to get rid of my windows but if I can't get ubuntu working I don't know what else to do. I burned the image I downloaded to a cd and booted off of it and the same thing. I am running out of things to try. I got a 19" widescreen LCD running off of a X850pro video card. I don't know if that is the problem or not though..
[00:12] <corinth> Why was glipper taken out of the default repos in hardy?
[00:12] <bod_> Odd-rationale, 1 more problem,.,. the -k switch for gksudo does not do the same is it does for sudo,.,. will i still et the prompt if i    sudo -k && gksudo?
[00:12] <andrzej> andrzej@andrzej-desktop:~/Desktop$ sudo ./ETQW-client-1.4-full.x86.run when i type that in console i get LUA error. Any1 know what should I do?
[00:12] <RiotGeek> nikrud:  Indeed. No /var/www/{html,cgi-bin}  and so forth. Huh...
[00:12] <nikrud> corinth ask in #ubuntu+1 , they handle hardy questions
[00:12] <corinth> Thanks!
[00:12] <SliMM> icanhasadmin: you can :-) iso, nrg, maybe cue, but i'm not sure about that last one
[00:13] <icanhasadmin> SliMM: well once again, something linux can do that flabergasts me. thank you :P
[00:13] <troxor> invalidsyntax: the most straightforward way is to just find the default one and copy/paste :)
[00:13] <nikrud> RiotGeek http.conf is all broken up into /etc/apache2.conf, mods-enabled and sites-enabled, and conf.d,
[00:13] <eck090> How do i mount a hard drive? im triyng the commands given to me by Ubuntu, but it is not working for some reason
[00:14] <Odd-rationale> bod_: I think sudo -k && gksudo will work.
[00:14] <Geekthras> Blargh
[00:14] <eck090> or even, can i just format it
[00:14] <bod_> Odd-rationale, ok, il give it a go, cheers
[00:14] <Geekthras> ubuntu hates me >.<
[00:14] <SliMM> icanhasadmin: just, search google for a script to do that automatically, and add it to the scripts folder/context menu (via nautilus-actions)
[00:14] <troxor> invalidsyntax: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SourcesList
[00:14] <Steven2> The file types I want to mount are .ccd and possibly .img and .sub
[00:14] <deniz__> tclineks, were in there does it show how to convert pdfs to jpegs?
[00:14] <Codedragon> when I try to install ubuntu I just get a blank flashing screen and flashing leds on the keyboard and it just hangs there no matter what I do
[00:14] <phreck> Codedragon: thats not good.
[00:14] <riotkittie> Codedragon: mmm, kernel panic.
[00:15]  * phreck blinks
[00:15] <andrzej> Any1 can explain what LUA is?
[00:15] <Codedragon> nope
[00:15] <SliMM> Steven2: hmm.. not sure about that
[00:15] <WheelsOnFire> that thing where you eat with a bunch of hawaiians?
[00:15] <Steven2> LUA like for Gary's Mod?
[00:15] <troxor> andrzej: moon in portuguese, or a programming language?
[00:15] <bod_> Odd-rationale, yer that works fine, but now i think my script doesnt work,.,.lol
[00:15] <tclineks> deniz__: http://www.google.com/search?q=pdf+to+jpeg+imagemagick
[00:15] <phreck> a programming language
[00:15] <phreck> thats what LUA is
[00:16] <Geekthras> I tried to change the date in 8.04, but instead it locked up
[00:16] <Steven2> !lua
[00:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lua - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:16] <phreck> www.lua.org
[00:16] <Codedragon> I tried every option in the 8.10 beta and the 7.10 release but with the same resaults. I am at wits end and really want to get ubuntu installed
[00:16] <Geekthras> Now, whenever I log on, I just get a black screen
[00:16] <Geekthras> I can see and move the cursor, and change workspaces
[00:16] <Odd-rationale> bod_: ok I'll be away for a bit...
[00:16] <Geekthras> But nothing is is displayed
[00:16] <bod_> Odd-rationale, k, cheers ;~)
[00:16] <phreck> Codedragon: hardware?
[00:16] <Geekthras> please help :(
[00:17] <riotkittie> Codedragon: you may have better luck with the alternate CD but hm. uhmmm. have you tried passing options to the kernel when you boot the live cd?
[00:17] <xbehave> hey wats the minimum size needed for a /boot
[00:17] <Codedragon> I got a AMD64 2000+ with 1gb ram a ATI X850pro on a 19" LCD widescreen
[00:17] <SliMM> so, the next release will be 8.07?
[00:17] <linkinxp> how i edit Grub?
[00:17] <riotkittie> SliMM: no, ~8.08
[00:17] <Synclair> hey I need a hand in here
[00:17] <Rezagrats> How come even after installing the right package, i can't play my dvd with Totem movie player ?
[00:17] <riotkittie> errrr. 8.10
[00:17] <segfault> hi! how can i activate emerald? but forever, not only with the emerald --replace thing
[00:17] <phreck> Codedragon; MB? HD?
[00:18] <Synclair> hey I need a hand in here
[00:18] <Steven2> linkinxp: Can't you just navigate to the grub folder and edit it manually?
[00:18] <Synclair> http://www.pastebin.ca/968313
[00:18] <Synclair> plesae PM me
[00:18] <Codedragon> riotkittie: I don't get any options, i see the main menu and anything i choose i get the same resault
[00:18] <icanhasadmin> linkinxp: sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[00:18] <Steven2> linkinxp: You can hose your computer that way though.
[00:18] <SliMM> riotkittie: isn't that.. 4 month delay?
[00:18] <linkinxp> Steven2,  dude im new idk anything about linux hierarchy
[00:18] <riotkittie> SliMM: 8.10? no. :P
[00:18] <segfault> hi! how can i activate emerald? but forever, not only with the emerald --replace thing
[00:18] <linkinxp> Steven2,  funny :)
[00:18] <linkinxp> icanhasadmin,  thanks
[00:18] <phreck> segfault: startup script
[00:18] <linkinxp> icanhasadmin,  whats nano?
[00:18] <WheelsOnFire> segfault: add that to your sessions
[00:18] <SliMM> riotkittie: 8.08
[00:19] <Codedragon> MB is a asus kt7v and the HDs are both maxtors 80gb and a 120 gb
[00:19] <Steven2> linkinxp: (04:18:28 PM) icanhasadmin: linkinxp: sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[00:19] <icanhasadmin> linkinxp: a command line text editor, an awesome one imho
[00:19] <Codedragon> 10k rpm onrs
[00:19] <riotkittie> SliMM: i corrected myself :P
[00:19] <Codedragon> *ones
[00:19] <SliMM> riotkittie: will there be a 8.10?
[00:19] <Geekthras> Anybody willing to help?
[00:19] <icanhasadmin> segfault: if you're using gnome, alt+f2, then gconf-editor
[00:19] <Synclair> hey I have the headers installed
[00:19] <Synclair> for alsa
[00:19] <troxor> Synclair: I'd use prebuilt packages instead of compiling yourself....
[00:19] <riotkittie> SliMM: yes. 6 month release cycle, so yea.
[00:19] <SliMM> riotkittie: oh, k :-)
[00:19] <phreck> Code: raided?
[00:19] <Synclair> but when I hit "make" it brings up this error
[00:19] <Synclair> http://www.pastebin.ca/968313
[00:19] <Steven2> linkinxp: It's a lot like gedit.
[00:20] <eck090> anybody know how to mount a hdd?
[00:20] <icanhasadmin> Steven2: Not really, this isn't the place to discuss it but nano is much different in many ways.
[00:20] <Codedragon> nope, not going to try that untill i get ubuntu installed :D
[00:20] <icanhasadmin> eck090: man mount
[00:20] <troxor> eck090: easy way: plug it in
[00:20] <Steven2> linkinxp: And if you screw up grub and can't boot. Just use your LiveCD.
[00:20] <xbehave> how much space do i need for /boot?
[00:20] <linkinxp> Steven2 icanhasadmin    i see the problem is i ran apt-get distro-update and now i have to versions of ubuntu in the boot list i want just one
[00:20] <Synclair> /way
[00:20] <phreck> well you should do it pre install
[00:20] <SliMM> riotkittie: yeah, but from august to october there are.. 2 months?
[00:20] <icanhasadmin> linkinxp: remove the one you don't want by deleting it from that file, just don't screw up :D
[00:21] <linkinxp> icanhasadmin,  im searching jijiji its tricky
[00:21] <phreck> whats on the the box right now? windows?
[00:21] <riotkittie> SliMM: uhhh. there's not one being released in august ^_^
[00:21] <SErge> what chown -R user:user /dev/hdc1 do?
[00:21] <icanhasadmin> xbehave: technically you don't need to but /boot on a seperate partition
[00:21] <linkinxp> i got it let me see whats happen :D
[00:21] <SliMM> riotkittie: when will hardy be released?
[00:21] <Plouj> hi
[00:21] <icanhasadmin> linkinxp: it's near the bottom, last thing before the windows one
[00:21] <troxor> SErge: changes the ownership of that file to user
[00:21] <Steven2> icanhasadmin: Isn't there a command you can run in terminal to backup your grub.list?
[00:21] <riotkittie> SliMM: ubuntu's naming convention ... x.y, where x is year, and y is month.  hardy, 8.04, will be released this month at some point
[00:22] <riotkittie> though i dont which exact date
[00:22] <icanhasadmin> Steven2: sure there is, but that wouldn't really help if you can't boot to restore it :P
[00:22] <SliMM> riotkittie: but i thought it was delayed
[00:22] <Steven2> That's true.
[00:22] <linkinxp> icanhasadmin,  can i pastebin u this so u can tell me?
[00:22] <icanhasadmin> linkinxp: sure
[00:22] <linkinxp> icanhasadmin,  http://pastebin.com/m2a828383
[00:22] <linkinxp> "D
[00:23] <Plouj> does anyone know how to make an atheros wireless connection configured in /etc/networking/intrfaces keep reconnecting if the wifi connection is dropped? Currently, I have to keep do it manually with "sudo /etc/init.d/network restart"
[00:23] <linkinxp> icanhasadmin,  i want the .14
[00:23] <eck090> can i use linux to wipe this hdd clean?
[00:23] <StevenX> guys, how do I make a shortcut to a folder on the desktop?
[00:23] <SliMM> so, will there be a delay in hardy's release
[00:23] <Al2O3> sometimes my net hub goes down, and seems ubuntu 7.10 net interface goes along with it but doesn't come back.  Is there a way to tell the system to reactivate the interface (even restart it), and then get a IP for it without rebooting?
[00:23] <SliMM> ?
[00:23] <riotkittie> SliMM: is it? hm. it might be, i havent been following. those in #ubuntu+1 might be able to provide more info
[00:23] <Steven2> eck090: Sure just boot your LiveCD and use the formatter to format the partition.
[00:23] <Joelito> HI all, I was watching this youtube video of Ubuntu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvnQE1EAEZY
[00:23] <eck090> there is no command in terminal i can use?
[00:24] <Codedragon> what is the difference between the x86 and the 64bit versions? I got a 64bit AMD will the not 64bit one work just as good? or at all?
[00:24] <Tylor-Van> mhm
[00:24] <bod_> guys, if i have a script that does this -- cat ./$@ | pastebinit          how can i make the script display the output?
[00:24] <Joelito> how can I make bottom panel looks and behave like the one from the video?
[00:24] <troxor> Codedragon: only if you have a 64bit processor!
[00:24] <Cyborg> whos Dave2 :/
[00:24] <Steven2> I suppose. But I doubt you could do it while running Ubuntu. Because your formatting Ubuntu.
[00:24] <billy> is there a terminal command that will make all shared files on a computer on the same network download to this comp?
[00:24] <billy> like my comp
[00:24] <bod_> wget?
[00:24] <Codedragon> troxor: I do, but the 64bit one won't work for me
[00:24] <aj_> Wow... are there really no adult content filters for Firefox?
[00:24] <Tylor-Van> wasdwasdwasdwasdwasdwasdwasdwasdwasdwasdwasdwasdwasdwasdwasdwasdwasdwasdwasdwasdwasdwasdwasdwasdwasdwasdwasdwasdwasd
[00:25] <Steven2> Joelito: It isn't the same panel. You delete the one you have and replace it.
[00:25] <aj_> The only one I see isn't available for LInux...
[00:25] <icanhasadmin> linkinxp: you only pasted the first 15 lines, if you're going to open a file for pastbining, use gedit instead of nano
[00:25] <billy> bod_: i want to download all of the files from another computer on my network to the comp im on right now.. how do i do it?
[00:25] <deniz__> tclineks, i converted a pdf into a jpeg but it only converted the first page of a multi paged pdf and its too like blurry pixelated looking (i want it nice at 150 DPI)
[00:25] <linkinxp> icanhasadmin,  ho but well can i delete everything exept for the version that i want?
[00:25] <troxor> Codedragon: do you get any other output besides the blinking screen/keyboard LEDs?
[00:26] <Tylor-Van> asdasdasdasdasdasdasdasdsdasdsadasdasdasdasdasdasdasdasdasdasdasdasdasdasdasdasdasdasdasdasdasdasdasdasdasdasdasdasdasdasdasdasdasdddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
[00:26] <xbehave> aj it shouldnt be done at browser level but with a broxy/filter
[00:26] <icanhasadmin> linkinxp: no, leave the one you want and the recovery console for the one you want
[00:26] <bod_> billy, dunno,.,. but i think i remember being to download thins from a webpage with wet, so it miht be somethin alon those lines,. im not really the best person to answer that im afraid
[00:26] <Codedragon> troxor: nope just that, no hdd lights or anything
[00:26] <Gary> Tylor-Van: erm, you might want to move the cat
[00:26] <billy> bod_: oh okay thanks
[00:26] <linkinxp> icanhasadmin,  ok
[00:26] <icanhasadmin> linkinxp: and leave windows if you need it
[00:26] <Al2O3> lol, Tylor-Van do you have some uncontrollable problem in typing.
[00:26] <billy> anyone in here familiar with network and file sharing?
[00:26] <georgy_28> billy : from linux to linux ?
[00:26] <fat-head> can anyone give me a few file joining and splitting apps for linux ( something like ffsj on windows not saying ffsj is good just an example ) ???
[00:26] <Al2O3> maybe Tylor-Van's head just hit the keyboard
[00:26] <Tylor-Van> lol
[00:26] <Tylor-Van> no
[00:26] <Tylor-Van> sorry
[00:26] <Joelito> Steven2: Replace it, with what? :\
[00:27] <meheren> im trying to add a dash (4 numbers in) to the end of only 9 digit dumbers is there a perl or vim script to allow me to do this?
[00:27] <troxor> Codedragon: the 32bit version will run just fine, so that might be the cheap way out
[00:27] <billy> georgy_28: no from linux to windows
[00:27] <Tylor-Van> I just like wasd
[00:27] <linkinxp> icanhasadmin,  how u save in nano?
[00:27] <Plouj> eck090: use 'shred'
[00:27] <georgy_28> ! samba | billy
[00:27] <ubotu> billy: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[00:28] <Al2O3> Q: how to restart net interface without rebooting?
[00:28] <Codedragon> troxor: I am trying to replase windows by installing over it or formatting it completley. I just don't want to do a command line format untill ubuntu is installed as then I won't have anything to fing/get help with
[00:28] <icanhasadmin> Al2O3: describe 'net interface'?
[00:28] <Steven2> Joelito: If you look at the comment by karlozusa. On the YouTube link they say how to get the panel.
[00:28] <linkinxp> icanhasadmin,  i got it let me reboot
[00:28] <icanhasadmin> linkinxp: just ctrl+x, then "y" when it asks you if you want to save
[00:28] <icanhasadmin> linkinxp: ok don't break it :P
[00:28] <bod_> guys, if i have a script that does this -- gksudo chmod 777 ./$@      why does it only work with files that dont have spaces in their name?
[00:28] <troxor> Codedragon: are there any known issues with your hardware?
[00:28] <Tylor-Van> Whats this all about?
[00:28] <Al2O3> icanhasadmin: the network card, and ubuntu's notion of that card.  Seems to have gone 'stale' or disconnected when my hub power cycled.
[00:29] <troxor> bod_: spaces delimit arguments
[00:29] <fat-head> anyone know of any good file splitter and joiners for linux ??
[00:29] <bod_> troxor, what does that mean?
[00:29] <icanhasadmin> Al203: you can rmmod the module driver for your card, then modprobe it back
[00:29] <Codedragon> troxor: not that I know of, windows worked find for years on it...
[00:29] <fat-head> anyone ? ^
[00:29] <Tylor-Van> im confused
[00:29] <Al2O3> ok, does that remove the mod from the kernel, and then reinsert?
[00:29] <nikrud> Tylor-Van see the topic  , type    /topic
[00:29] <icanhasadmin> bod_: because files with spaces in there names need a \ or a tab complete or ""
[00:29] <Don_Miguel> troxor:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61963/   Results of (1) sudo apt-get update
[00:30] <tobberoth> What is the loopback interface used for?
[00:30] <troxor> bod_: the shell isn't smart enough to know that the file has spaces
[00:30] <matt__> anyone here want to explain to me how to use/setup vncveiwer/server?
[00:30] <bod_> icanhasadmin, yer but why cant $@ handle that?
[00:30] <icanhasadmin> Al2O3: basically yes
[00:30] <Tylor-Van> ohhhhhh
[00:30] <troxor> fat-head: what type of files?
[00:30] <Tylor-Van> lol
[00:30] <matt__> i wan to "controL" a downstairs computer from upstairs
[00:30] <Al2O3> matt__:  that is a big question
[00:30] <bod_> troxor, yes it is, autocompletion handles spaces
[00:30] <Antireligion> how do i use the "locate" command to find links to files instead of the files proper?
[00:30] <Al2O3> there are a ton of tutorials online for that.
[00:31] <matt__> Al2O3: i've been trying a lot of them, but all i do is get confused.
[00:31] <Al2O3> its a complex issue due in most part the need to not just install the vnc server, but also get a port forwarded thru your firewall
[00:31] <matt__> Al2O3: do you personally know how?
[00:31] <linkinxp> icanhasadmin,  i got it :D
[00:31] <Al2O3> its a 10 million dollar question
[00:31] <icanhasadmin> linkinxp: yay :D
[00:31] <fat-head> troxor all files especially media
[00:31] <meheren> im trying to add a dash (4 numbers in) to the end of only 9 digit dumbers is there a perl or vim script to allow me to do this?
[00:31] <troxor> bod_: try this.. make a file called "cp -al", then do ls cp -al :)
[00:31] <Al2O3> the number of possible configurations are limitless.
[00:31] <matt__> Al2O3: ok...then it should be easy, i'm good at forwarding ports
[00:31] <icanhasadmin> matt__: do a google search for installing and using vnc
[00:31] <matt__> icanhasadmin: i've been trying many tutorials, but i just get confused...
[00:31] <troxor> fat-head: it really depends on the filetype, mp3splt can split mp3s
[00:31] <matt__> icanhasadmin: do you have a good one?
[00:31] <Al2O3> matt__ seriously, that is the best thing to do, it is insanely insane.
[00:32] <linkinxp> icanhasadmin,  now in Update Manager i have an update grayed out it says linux-restricted-modules-generic
[00:32] <linkinxp> whats that?
[00:32] <troxor> Don_Miguel: that looks fine- what's the eric.lavar repository for?
[00:32] <Mahora> woha! O_o
[00:32] <matt__> Al2O3: alright, but do you have a tutorial that works?
[00:32] <bod_> troxor,    -rw-r--r--  1 bod bod    0 2008-04-03 00:31 cp -al
[00:32] <Al2O3> matt, I used to do customer support for a company that produced VNC servers and clients, and I'll tell ya, I personally changed our poslicy to a 150 bucks an hour policy.
[00:32] <icanhasadmin> linkinxp: er.. that's your restricted modules generic :P
[00:32] <bod_> troxor, what did that prove?
[00:32] <Mahora> there`s more than 1000 people in this channel! O_o;;
[00:32] <Al2O3> the possible configurations are mindnumbing
[00:32] <linkinxp> icanhasadmin,  but ajajajjaaj why is there? why cant i download it? or go away ajajja
[00:32] <icanhasadmin> !enter
[00:32] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[00:32] <troxor> bod_: that if you do `ls cp -al`, the -al are interpreted as arguments to ls
[00:32] <photon_> I installed Open Office 2.4 from the official website (deb files). Now I'm being notified to "upgrade" to the 2.3 version available in the repository. Can I exclude Open Office from upgrades or maybe remove it from being tracked?
[00:33] <Don_Miguel> troxor, I pasted   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61963/
[00:33] <Al2O3> read up on it, there are just too man possibilities.  Can take and often does hours for folks with trouble to solve.
[00:33] <Codedragon> troxor: no ideas?
[00:33] <troxor> thus, the part of the filename after the first space (unless escaped or enclosed by quotes) are interpreted as arguments
[00:33] <matt__> Al2O3: yeah, i've figured it out. but as i've said, all i really want to do is "control" the downstairs computer. I keep noticing that the ubuntu/kubuntu's both include something called "remote desktop". i'm thinking it is all already there, i just don't know how to use it...
[00:33] <matt__> but am i wrong?
[00:33] <fat-head> troxor what about .wmv .asf and .avi files ???
[00:33] <Flannel> photon_: Unless they've tweaked the version numbers something awful, you shouldn't be prompted for 2.3 updates.  But yes, assuming you are,
[00:33] <Flannel> !pinning | photon_
[00:33] <ubotu> photon_: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[00:33] <Al2O3> I think you are right, remote desktop is likely vnc
[00:34] <linkinxp> matt__,  just put the IP
[00:34] <Tylor-Van> yes
[00:34] <troxor> Codedragon: actually, more like "linux compatibility" with your hardware ;)
[00:34] <Tylor-Van> indeed
[00:34] <Al2O3> I know apple use's ARD for their 'remote desktop'  :)
[00:34] <Tylor-Van> i agree
[00:34] <icanhasadmin> matt_: well it actually works in Hardy.. wait a few days
[00:34] <Tylor-Van> mhm
[00:34] <FloodBot2> Tylor-Van: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:34] <Al2O3> so my guess is you are right, the remote desktop is VNC in linux
[00:34] <Al2O3> ubuntu that is
[00:34] <troxor> Codedragon: it could be something simple like putting noacpi at the end of the kernel argument list
[00:34] <Tylor-Van> ?
[00:34] <bod_> troxor, actually i got that from a ls -lah    if i try    ls cp -al   it thinks cp is the directory
[00:34] <karllenz87> do 64bit drivers work on a 32bit system
[00:34] <matt__> icanhasadmin: you mean the one is edgy doesn't work right out of the box?
[00:34] <linkinxp> nop
[00:34] <troxor> fat-head: wmv, asf: ew. avi, transcode will do it
[00:34] <matt__> linkinxp: meaning???
[00:35] <Codedragon> troxor: I had linux running on this computer before, its just ubuntu that is giving me the problems
[00:35] <icanhasadmin> Codedragon: i would try passing noacpi...
[00:35] <icanhasadmin> matt__: it just doesn't work... quite right... in edgy or gutsy, in my experiences.
[00:35] <bod_> Codedragon, did you try removing all usb devices?
[00:35] <Gary> Tylor-Van: I suggest you read the pm I sent you regarding behaviour in this channel
[00:35] <karllenz87> can anyone help with macbook santa rosa installation
[00:35] <troxor> Codedragon: ah, that's a good sign- do you remember the kernel version the other distro was using, by any chance?
[00:36] <fat-head> troxor does that split and join .wmv's??
[00:36] <matt__> icanhasadmin: alright...though: i've got the "server" setup with remote desktop, however, do i need to forward a port, AND how would i attempt to veiw this remote desktop
[00:36] <troxor> Don_Miguel: your pastebin output looks fine- what's the eric.lavar repository for?
[00:37] <Al2O3> www.portforward.com
[00:37] <Al2O3> check it out.
[00:37] <tired> can someone help me with an 8.04 update error??
[00:37] <Al2O3> tells you what you need to do and know for port forwarding.
[00:37] <troxor> fat-head: I'm not sure, actually- I avoid those :)
[00:37] <Flannel> tired: #ubuntu+1 for Hardy support, thanks
[00:37] <matt__> Al2O3: you send that to me???????????????????/
[00:37] <billy> how can i share an internet connection with my windows comp? like, ubuntu is bummin internet off of a windows comp via a crossover cable
[00:37] <adac> i wanna boot from a pxe server with qemu...is this possible, and how?
[00:37] <billy> how do i do that?
[00:38] <maarek_> \me was afk
[00:38] <Al2O3> you need to either open your firewall on your local machine/os, and/or on the hub you have which may have a firewall on it and enabled.
[00:38] <sarah____> does anyone know the avant-windows-navigator hotkeys for rotating windows?
[00:38]  * maarek_ was afk
[00:38] <Antireligion> w
[00:38] <Antireligion> where are the totem plugins for firefox 3 in 8.04 located?
[00:38] <Al2O3> and finally you do need to set your port (default to 5900) to what you would expect it to be.
[00:38] <maarek_> what is the transparent IRC client that  melds with the desktop?
[00:38] <billy> how can i share an internet connection from my windows comp over a crossover cable?
[00:38] <shadowhywind> hay all just upgraded to hardy, and now my scanner doesn't work, any ideas?
[00:38] <Al2O3> 5900-5909 are the standard ports for VNC Server, on the world of linux they are desktops 0 thru 9 as I recall.
[00:39] <Al2O3> and if you want to do reverse connection request to the client instead, from the server, that would usually be 5500 and then it would come back to you as I recall on 5900.  Details of this are online.
[00:39] <icanhasadmin> billy: you need to use windows ICS, nothing to do with ubuntu
[00:39] <Al2O3> there are ways around the firewall.
[00:39] <Codedragon> troxor: it was a slackware version but it was almost 3 years since I had it installed so the kernal ver was quite old.. :D the only new thing I added was the video card.
[00:39] <Al2O3> but since this in your house, you should have control of it all anyway.
[00:39] <bruenig> hmm
[00:40] <billy> icanhasadmin: how do i do it? over a crossover cable?
[00:40] <icanhasadmin> billy: yes
[00:40] <troxor> Codedragon: slackware? then probably kernel 2.4 ;)
[00:40] <Al2O3> I can say over 90% of our calls were about port forwarding.
[00:40] <billy> icanhasadmin: im noob dude lol. how do i do it like, do i set up static ip's on both comps?
[00:41] <Flare183> !lol | billy
[00:41] <ubotu> billy: Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[00:41] <icanhasadmin> billy: as i said it's a windows question, doesn't belong here
[00:41] <linkinxp> Antireligion,  i just installed them to fix my video rendering
[00:41] <StevenX> guys, how do I make a shortcut to a folder on the desktop?
[00:41] <Flare183> !windows | billy
[00:41] <ubotu> billy: For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[00:41] <billy> icanhasadmin: oh.. okay
[00:41] <Flare183> StevenX: use ln -s
[00:41] <linkinxp> !ubuntu
[00:41] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[00:41] <linkinxp> clones????
[00:42] <linkinxp> OMG
[00:42] <Flare183> O snap
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[00:43] <linkinxp> ban the numbers :D
[00:43] <Flare183> yeah
[00:43] <Starnestommy> they were banned from connecting
[00:43] <linkinxp> hey sorry for asking but is anyone from Naples Florida?
[00:43] <RockerMONO> heya Flare183
[00:43] <Flare183> RockerMONO: hey
[00:44] <Flare183> !ot | Starnestommy
[00:44] <ubotu> Starnestommy: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[00:44] <Flare183> oops
[00:44] <Flare183> sorry wrong nick
[00:44] <Flare183> !ot | linkinxp
[00:44] <ubotu> linkinxp: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[00:44] <Flare183> there
[00:44] <linkinxp> Flare183,  :D
[00:44] <icanhasadmin> linkinxp: i knew a girl named jessica from naples
[00:44] <linkinxp> icanhasadmin,  for real? linux girl?
[00:45] <StevenX> Flare183, thank you. "ln" worked.
[00:45] <Flare183> no problem
[00:45] <icanhasadmin> linkinxp: no :P but this is terribly off topic.
[00:46] <linkinxp> icanhasadmin,  i know jajajaj see ya in offtopic
[00:46] <Flare183> yeap it is
[00:47] <joe12345> hey guys, question: is there a way to disable my wifi killswitch?
[00:47] <joe12345> or better yet, reenable my wifi card?
[00:48] <praktora> I am not able to connect to a wireless nework using ubuntu 7.10 . I am using pavilion Dv9000 with a broadcom 802.11g/b wireless. i read over 100 topics in the internet and nothing can find my a solution. Can anyone please help me ?
[00:49] <icanhasadmin> praktora: you have to explain your problem futher. is your wifi shown with iwconfig?
[00:49] <insomninja> joe12345, I guess it depends on the nature of the killswitch, but to restart networking you could open a terminal and type sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[00:49] <joe12345> insomninja: sexy, thanks, I'll try that!
[00:50] <thiemster> the run menu has stopped coming up when I press alt-f2. How can I get it back?
[00:50] <thiemster> I'm in kubuntu 8.04 beta kde 3 edition, if that helps
[00:50] <praktora> icanhasadmin ok . Please tell me what things i need to check and i will restart and log with ubuntu and tell you
[00:50] <Codedragon> troxor: could be, i am not a linux guru..
[00:50] <praktora> only iwconfig ?
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[00:51] <danbhfive> thiemster: beta support is in ubuntu+1
[00:51] <insomninja> joe12345, however it might be that the killswitch is "above" that (like actually being a hardware power switch or something)
[00:51] <Codedragon> troxor: i just would love to get ubuntu installed, so i get give windows the boot
[00:52] <praktora> icanhasadmin it is not shown
[00:52] <joe12345> insomninja: i'm pretty sure it is a hardware power switch. problem is, it's "windized", and is the fn+f2 hotkey. It turned it off once, but will no longer turn it back on
[00:52] <icanhasadmin> praktora: you need to install working drivers, i believe madwifi supports broadcom 43xx, but i could be wrong
[00:53] <joe12345> insomninja: oh, and i had no dice with the network restart :P. Same deal with dhclient. Is there a way to make ubuntu believe that there is wireless card?
[00:53] <joe12345> then i could set up the wireless connection.
[00:54] <Don_Miguel> troxor, that    http://eric.lavar.de   seems to be for some "Third Party Software"  result of  sudo apt-get upgrade ---> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61965/   and I see some errors, but no idea how to fix them.
[00:54] <icesword> hello,:)
[00:54] <Antireligion> i want to remove the totem plugins from firefox 3, where do i find those plugins?
[00:54] <billy____> how do i set up a network between a windows and ubuntu comp via a crossover cable?
[00:55] <insomninja> joe12345, what network card model / latptop model do you have?
[00:55] <troxor> Codedragon: when the ubuntu CD boots up, choose the safe option (if available)
[00:56] <Dr_willis> billy____,  give each a static ip. or install a dhcp server on the linux box is one way.
[00:56] <Dr_willis> billy,  once eah has an ip. You can ping/transfer whatever.
[00:56] <Codedragon> troxor: ok, i'll try that.. brb
[00:56] <genii> billy____: Set static IP on each box with it's own IP as gateway/default router and make sure you can ping each other.
[00:56] <billy____> dr_willis; i tried that but its not working
[00:56] <troxor> Codedragon: also, there should be a way to edit the kernel arguments- TAB or something-
[00:56] <troxor> Codedragon: add noacpi noapic at the end if the safe option doesn't work
[00:56] <troxor> oop
[00:56] <troxor> s
[00:57] <joe12345> insomninja: broadcomm BCM4312 802.11a/b/g /// Dell 1501 Inspiron
[00:57] <Dr_willis> billy,  then you are doing somthing wrong. its how ya do it. :)
[00:57] <Dr_willis> billy,  give each box an ip like 192.168.1.100 and 101, then see if they can ping each other.
[00:57] <billy____> oi.. can u walk me thru from scratch?
[00:57] <troxor> Don_Miguel: what does line 2 of /var/lib/dpkg/available say ?
[00:57] <Dr_willis> billy,  THEN its all about getting installed/doung what you want to do.  try ping ip.of.other.box  and if they can ping. they are networked.
[00:58] <Acomaco> how come, shutdown 0 don't work for me? even if i do sudo? It only takes the computer to one user mode..
[00:58] <powder^> hi.. I got no CD writer..
[00:58] <billy____> Dr_willis okay
[00:58] <powder^> I got Gutsy..
[00:58] <powder^> I got XP
[00:58] <powder^> Do me up
[00:58] <style23> I'm running the intel driver on my intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03), but glxinfo returns the following error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61886/plain/
[01:00] <sumalr> hi does anyone know the name of a system monitoring software i see on a lot of desktop screenshots? it's usually a right menubar with customizable displays. thanks.
[01:00] <powder^> I don't know the first thing about Linux, But I can read, and I read about the DualBoot MBR.. (From Forum) and I think I can get GAG.. and or do the install, BUT.. I got no CD writer
[01:00] <Codedragon> troxor: nope same thing
[01:00] <powder^> can't make install disk from ISO
[01:01] <sumalr> powder^: You can try alternative installation methods.
[01:01] <powder^> Can I open the ISO to Hard disk?
[01:01] <troxor> Don_Miguel: better yet, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=722101
[01:01] <troxor> Codedragon: did you try adding "noacpi noapic nolapic" at the end of the kernel boot arguments? sometimes those magically fix it
[01:01] <sumalr> powder^: I think I've seen a guide on using DAEMOM or some tool to mount the .iso
[01:01] <HorizonXP> does anyone know of a good replacement for the Windows Task List bar at the bottom of the screen?
[01:01] <insomninja> joe12345, after some googling I've found that you might find some settings in bios that might relate to it. this might help too: http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4256732
[01:02] <sumalr> powder^: But I'd give unetbootin a try
[01:02] <Codedragon> troxor: no, i'll try those.
[01:02] <powder^> sumalr Ohhh.. please .. input, need more input
[01:02] <aj_> For some reason, when I create a launcher for an executable text file, it doesn't work.  I need to actually navigate to the folder and run in manually.  Clicking the launcher I created does nothing, shows no errors.  What's going on?
[01:02] <sumalr> powder^: did you try unetbootin?
[01:02] <Antireligion> whats the difference between gksu and gksudo?
[01:02] <sumalr> powder^: http://lubi.sourceforge.net/unetbootin.html
[01:03] <troxor> Codedragon: kernel oopses are tough to diagnose if you can't get the oops message itself :(
[01:03] <Sun01Tech> google
[01:03] <nikrud> Antireligion nothing, gksudo is a link to gksu (used to be a little different, though)
[01:03] <powder^> sumalr - lookin
[01:03] <troxor> Codedragon: alternatively, you can try an older version of ubuntu, and then dist-upgrade
[01:03] <Codedragon> troxor: tell me about it. it seams like the computer is off but still has power
[01:04] <Antireligion> ok
[01:04] <Don_Miguel> troxor, line 2 of /var/lib/dpkg/available says       Status: install ok installed
[01:04] <Codedragon> brb
[01:04] <troxor> Don_Miguel: did you see that forums link? the solution there was to copy available-old to available (both in /var/lib/dpkg)
[01:05] <aj_> Also, if I'm on Gnome-look.org, what kid of themes do I need to look for (gdm, gtk1/2)?
[01:06] <azlon> im running ubuntu 7.04, i just plugged in my ext hd... how can i view a list of connected devices so i can mount it?
[01:07] <aj_> azlon: You can determine your device id by running "dmesg" in the terminal.  This will show you the last connected device at the end.
[01:07] <aj_> For some reason, when I create a launcher for an executable text file, it doesn't work.  I need to actually navigate to the folder and run in manually.  Clicking the launcher I created does nothing, shows no errors.  What's going on?
[01:08] <Don_Miguel> troxor:  I missed that link ... and see that "available" lines 1 & 2 say: Package: python-bittorrent
[01:08] <Don_Miguel> Status: install ok installed
[01:08] <troxor> Don_Miguel:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=722101
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[01:08] <Don_Miguel> troxor, thanks .. going to check that ...
[01:11] <Codedragon> troxor: nope same thing. i seen an error msg for a split second but not long enough to see or hit anything to read it
[01:11] <PwrSurge> good , back to normal
[01:11] <sarah___> hey guys, whats a good linux app for displaying cpu data/weather on my ubuntu desktop?
[01:12] <sarah___> cpu data/ harddrive data/ user/ linux kernel, etc
[01:12] <powder^> sumalr -- good choice, I will TRY that
[01:12] <sumalr> powder^: gl
[01:12] <troxor> Codedragon: perhaps then, installing feisty off the CD, then dist-upgrading to gutsy would be the path of least resistance :)
[01:12] <PwrSurge> can anyone help me, i keep getting connection reset by peer on a ssh session to a freebsd box on my local network
[01:12] <powder^> sumalr - parting the disk can be done with XP?
[01:12] <sarah___> im looking something similar to this app "http://www.tuxmachines.org/images/med-sept.jpg"
[01:12] <sumalr> powder^: no use the gparted live CD
[01:12] <sarah___> i am not sure what its called, anyone know the name of it?
[01:13] <billy____> my windows comp can ping my ubuntu comp, but no the other way around.. what do i do?
[01:13] <luigi> !it
[01:13] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:13] <sumalr> PwrSurge: set a keep alive in ur daemon config
[01:13] <powder^> sumalr -- I have the Drive Maker Partitions Disk
[01:13] <Codedragon> troxor: what ver is feisty?
[01:13] <powder^> help disk
[01:13] <powder^> setup disk
[01:13] <Sun01Tech> when playing streaming video in firefox xubuntu in a little while shuts off and my computer cuts off....i think i caught a message about temp exceeded 85 c
[01:13] <troxor> 7.04, methinks
[01:13] <powder^> sumalr Maxtor Made, and Provide Partiton software on their disk
[01:14] <billy____> howcome i can ping my ubuntu comp from my windows comp but i can't ping the other way around? how do i fix it?
[01:15] <icesword> god ,ff even makes a beta5
[01:16] <RandoCal> goog evening everyone
[01:16] <Teoz> I installed SSH in Ubuntu but I can't access it through putty from the outside world
[01:16] <Bogaurd> I'm trying to extract a multipart rar... I'm using 'unrar e archive.rar', but it keeps complaining 'no files to extract'...
[01:16] <powder^> don't pick on me, I'm a Penguin Noobie
[01:16] <Teoz> I used port forwarding on my router as best as I understood it
[01:16] <Codedragon> troxor: would it make a difference if i tried the x86 version over the 64bit one? is there that much performance loss between the two?
[01:17] <Teoz> is there some firewall option to change in Ubuntu ?
[01:17] <Pici> !firewall | Teoz
[01:17] <ubotu> Teoz: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[01:17] <troxor> Codedragon: it could work, yes
[01:17] <RandoCal> When I want to SSH from my Ubuntu box to other machines in the house I've been just opening a terminal window and then typing in "ssh -l user xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" of the other box, is there a way to make myself a "shortcut" to terminal that automatically puts this info?
[01:18] <powder^> lool, firestarter is the name of my pc
[01:18] <Scunizi> Teoz,  you have a couple of factors that you might not have taken into account.. first is if your ISP gives you a dynamic IP address it might have changed.. also your router is probably providing dhcp to your machine.. depending on setup that can change from boot to boot as well.
[01:18] <sumalr> powder^: use the Gparted Live CD
[01:18] <Codedragon> troxor: ok, well I'll download that and see if there is a difference.
[01:18] <sumalr> powder^: use that to partition
[01:18] <Teoz> apparently iptables is not a valid command
[01:18] <Dr_willis> RandoCal,  you could always make some alias's in your bashrc.
[01:18] <Teoz> in ubuntu
[01:18] <Teoz> I have a pretty static ip address, im sure
[01:19] <RandoCal> Ideally, i'd like an icon on my top panel, that just opens an SSH session automatically to my other linux box
[01:19] <sumalr> powder^: Here's a helpful website about partitioning: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/partitioning
[01:19] <Dr_willis> RandoCal,  theres a tool that does that for gnome ive seen. It may be under hardy.
[01:19] <Teoz> when I enter my modem-cable IP address, does the dhcp really mess anythign up ?
[01:19] <Codedragon> troxor: you ever hear of a problem like i am having?
[01:19] <troxor> occasionally
[01:19] <Teoz> iptables does work after all!
[01:20] <RandoCal> Dr_willis: kk, i'll give that a try once i upgrade
[01:20] <Scunizi> Teoz the modem ip, or main ip doesn't have any relationship to the ip assigned by dhcp to your machine.
[01:20] <Dr_willis> RandoCal,  i cant find the name right now. :) it was some taskbar applet for gnome. ya enter the various ssh ip/options and it was just a simple menu.
[01:20] <hp> i have a very weird problem with my wireless
[01:21] <Dr_willis> RandoCal,  you could do about the same thing with a few scripts. easially enough
[01:21] <Scunizi> Teoz port forwarding in the router is done to your machines ip which is normally 192.168.x.xxx .. this the ip assigned by dhcp in your router.
[01:21] <RandoCal> Can I launch terminal with a switch command to have it autoconnect to a specific IP with a specific username?
[01:21] <Dr_willis> RandoCal,  sshmenu - A standalone and a Gnome panel applet for connecting to hosts using SSH
[01:22] <Dr_willis> RandoCal,  most of the terminalapps have a -e EXEXUTE SOMTHING  option
[01:22]  * RandoCal goes to find sshmenu and try it
[01:22] <Dr_willis> xterm -e 'ssh whatever '
[01:22] <Teoz> Scunizi: yes I agree that port forwarding is the router getting a request for a certain port from the internet and a certain port is associated with a certain internal IP + said port
[01:22] <Dr_willis> !info sshmenu
[01:22] <ubotu> Package sshmenu does not exist in gutsy
[01:23] <Pici> !info is broken
[01:23] <ubotu> Package is does not exist in gutsy
[01:23] <Scunizi> teoz, some ISP's block know ports, like port 80 & 21
[01:23] <Teoz> Scunizi: hm, so I how to configure my SSH to listen to another port other than 22 ?
[01:24] <sumalr> Teoz: go to sshd_config
[01:24] <sumalr> Teoz: wait one moment
[01:24] <meheren> my terminal emulator is not wrapping text correctly. everytime it goes to the end of the window it restarts on the same line instead of going down a line, and when i shorten it, it goes up a line (replacing what was previously there) any one know what i screwed up?
[01:24] <powder^> they use port 10?
[01:24] <iwkse> hi there, why alsaconf is not reachable on ubuntu/kubuntu?
[01:24] <sumalr> Teoz: modify the host's openssh daemon config file (sudo nano /etc/ssh/sshd_config)
[01:24] <sumalr> Teoz: Then change port 22 to Port XXXXX
[01:24] <RandoCal> yup, doesn't exist in gutsy
[01:24] <Starnestommy> or add a new line
[01:25] <Teoz> sumalr: ok wait, i am doing this over SSH since my samba is headless
[01:25] <sumalr> Teoz: Okay
[01:26] <Teoz> sumalr: how high do ports go ? whats the last one ?
[01:26] <RandoCal> I'm pretty new to running a linux machine as my desktop OS..... i've had a couple linux servers for a while, and would normally just use putty to admin them. Now i'm looking to admin them from my Ubuntu box, do people generally just use the included terminal app? or is there better terminal programs that most tend to use?
[01:26] <Don_Miguel>  troxor, see the link ... what is the sudo command to copy available-old to available (both in /var/lib/dpkg) ?? and I guess I also need to CD to /var/lib/dpkg ... first ...
[01:27] <bastid_raZor> RandoCal; ssh is your best friend in this instance
[01:27] <Scunizi> RandoCal, Terminal Services Client if you have a gui on the server or ssh is the better option from the command line.
[01:27] <RandoCal> so just run terminal from my accesories, and then ssh over like i've been doing
[01:27] <Scunizi> yep
[01:28] <RandoCal> cool
[01:28] <troxor> Don_Miguel: `sudo cp /var/lib/dpkg/available{,.backup} && sudo cp /var/lib/dpkg/available{-old,}` <-- fancy way
[01:28] <sumalr> Teoz: I'm not sure though you can use anything up to 60000
[01:28] <iwkse> RandoCal: man ssh for details
[01:28] <Dr_willis> RandoCal,  make an alias for each machines with the proper ssh command. Is rahter easy.
[01:28] <sumalr> Teoz: Lots of options there
[01:28] <Teoz> sumalr: I'll have to get out my lucky numers now
[01:28] <RandoCal> i'm able to SSH across no problems, i know how to get connected, i'm just looking for an easier way, rather than having to type in "ssh -l username ipaddress" each time
[01:28] <Dr_willis> RandoCal,  i tend to just use xterms, or gnome-terminal. thers others you can try. for X based terminals. Be sure to learn to use screen.
[01:28] <sumalr> Teoz: make you write it down so you won't get locked out
[01:29] <sumalr> *sure
[01:29] <troxor> Don_Miguel: or sudo -s , then cd /var/lib/dpkg/, then mv them around :)
[01:29] <chuk> when this bug is fixed, where is the first place I will find it:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/211066
[01:29] <RandoCal> yeah, i've heard screen is the good stuff
[01:29] <Dr_willis> RandoCal,  'alas goremote=ssh long command line '
[01:29] <powder^> -- downloadin' Unetbootin-partmanager146
[01:29] <Dr_willis> oops alias. :)
[01:29] <Scunizi> chuk it will be mentioned there
[01:29] <sumalr> powder^: do you have a wired connection?
[01:29] <chuk> wasn't sure if there was a repository that will pick it up first
[01:30] <Teoz> sumalr: all right ! the port is 13211 now
[01:30] <chuk> ppa?
[01:30] <bastid_raZor> RandoCal; as Dr_willis suggested.. set an alias.
[01:30] <j3kyll> how do i edit the mbr on another hd? from ubuntu..
[01:30] <powder^> sumalr -- DSL
[01:30] <sumalr> powder^: ok that will be good for unetbootin
[01:30] <PwrSurge> back
[01:30] <powder^> sumalr I have no COA.. if XP crashes
[01:30] <Scunizi> j3kyll, are you trying to fix grub?
[01:31] <sumalr> Teoz: I recommend this documentation to enhance your SSH security: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH
[01:31] <j3kyll> Scunizi : no, im trying to figure out how to format a secondary harddrive to install xp on. i can't figure out how to do it through ubuntu
[01:31] <PwrSurge> sumalr, : i already have ClientAliveInterval     20 in my sshd_config
[01:31] <Teoz> sumalr: damn it ! now it the connection is just refused even though I didnt screw up writing the port down
[01:31] <chuk> Scunizi - is there a bleeding edge repository for bug fixes, or do they get committed to archive.ubuntu.com at the same time?
[01:31] <sumalr> PwrSurge: and you still get disconnected?
[01:31] <bastid_raZor> Teoz; when you ssh in to your box you'lll have to specify the new port ssh -P12311
[01:31] <Scunizi> j3kyll, you can install gparted in ubuntu and use that.
[01:31] <PwrSurge> yes
[01:31] <powder^> j3kyll it is on the internet.. how to
[01:31] <sumalr> Teoz: did you tweak any other settings?
[01:31] <PwrSurge> even when typing
[01:32] <Scunizi> chuk.. if it's security is passed down as an update.. other than that. I'm not really sure.
[01:32] <sumalr> PwrSurge: do you get .. disconnected by peer?
[01:32] <PwrSurge> yes
[01:32] <Teoz> sumalr: no really, just that
[01:32] <chuk> Scunizi - thanks
[01:32] <Scunizi> chuk, np
[01:32] <j3kyll> Scunizi : installed gparted... but how do i edit the mbr? and i can't format to ntfs through gparted. Is there a plugin for that?
[01:32] <Teoz> sumalr: gladly, i also have samba running
[01:33] <PwrSurge> [nrg@chestnut ~]$ Read from remote host chestnut: Connection reset by peer
[01:33] <PwrSurge> Connection to chestnut closed.
[01:33] <PwrSurge> nrg@Latitude:~$
[01:33] <sumalr> PwrSurge: you can try allowing the host
[01:33] <sumalr> Teoz: use netstat to see whether the port is open
[01:33] <powder^> i read where GAG can be used
[01:33] <Teoz> sumalr: but that doesnt help me since I dont have access to /etc/
[01:33] <PwrSurge> it only does it after like 10 minutes
[01:33] <RandoCal> WinXp will format when you go to install it
[01:33] <PwrSurge> i can connect fine
[01:33] <powder^> first priority
[01:34] <powder^> GAG is a bootloader on track one
[01:34] <Ace2016> gag?
[01:34] <powder^> mm.. uep
[01:34] <Scunizi> j3kyll, I'll tell you how I did it when I first started.. I disconnected my ubuntu drive and put the other in the master position and booted to the windows install cd and did the 3.5hr install with updates. then I reinstalled the ubuntu drive and re-wrote grub to where it normally was. It picked up the fact that I had Windows on another drive and created a line for it.
[01:34] <PwrSurge> i heard there's an incompatibility between ubuntu and MacOS ssh
[01:34] <Ace2016> why not grub?
[01:34] <PwrSurge> would that affect Free BSD as well?
[01:35] <Scunizi> j3kyll, windows will do its own formatting.
[01:35] <sumalr> PwrSurge: can you give more info on the machine you are SSHing to?
[01:35] <Teoz> how do you even ping a specifc port from winxp??
[01:35] <powder^> said grub may not be what you want to do in a dual boot OS
[01:35] <Scunizi> Teoz from a DOS box
[01:35] <Teoz> and type in       ping 192.168.0.103
[01:35] <Teoz> and what else?
[01:35] <PwrSurge> FreeBSD chestnut.nrgnet.cjb.net 6.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE #0:
[01:35] <j3kyll> RandoCal Scunizi : i using just the windows cd but when ever i go to it it says "this partition does not contain a windowsXp compatible"
[01:35] <balthazarguy> Hey guys.
[01:36] <Scunizi> Teoz, probably pinf 192.168.0.103:22541 or whatever the port is\
[01:36] <balthazarguy> Got a question about Ubuntu.. I'm new at this hehe.
[01:36] <zippytech> whats program does ubuntu use to mout ubb drives automaticly
[01:36] <Ace2016> hi
[01:36] <Synclair> hey
[01:36] <nikrud> !ask | balthazarguy
[01:36] <ubotu> balthazarguy: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[01:36] <Synclair> someone there?
[01:36] <sumalr> Teoz, also try netstat -an |find /i "listening"
[01:36] <powder^> BalaamsMiracle hey, meet another noob
[01:36] <tobberoth> Is it possible to have an input engine outside of X, GTK or similar? I want to be able to write japanese in the virtual console
[01:36] <powder^> lool, I gotta find a nnoobb room
[01:37] <PwrSurge> OpenSSH_4.5p1 FreeBSD-20061110, OpenSSL 0.9.7e-p1 25 Oct 2004
[01:37] <Scunizi> j3kyll, you can format the drive as fat32 then on install windows will typically ask if you want to delete the partition and recreate it then it will format.. this is really for #windows. not her.
[01:37] <Scunizi> *here
[01:37] <Synclair> hey I have issues installing VirtualBox..
[01:37] <PwrSurge> should i try to update the opensshd on my freebsd box?
[01:37] <Synclair> I cannot fulfill the dependencies
[01:37] <sumalr> PwrSurge: also look through the settings
[01:37] <j3kyll> Scunizi : okay will try #windows thanks
[01:37] <Teoz> sumalr: thatsweird, netstat doesnt even list my open samba
[01:37] <PwrSurge> which settings?
[01:38] <Geekthras> How can I turn off the desktop effects?
[01:38] <balthazarguy> I just installed Ubuntu, finally got the internet up. Now I go to get my Nvidia Video card working... I go to the restricted drivers manager, and tell it to enable, then I get the error: Nvidia-GLX-New is not enabled..
[01:38] <sumalr> PwrSurge: sshd_config
[01:38] <sumalr> Geekthras: Are you using GNOME?
[01:38] <Geekthras> I think so
[01:38] <sumalr> Geekthras: If you're using GNOME, System > Appearance
[01:38] <Ace2016> PwrSurge: did you download the deb?
[01:38] <balthazarguy> All I know really atm is Ubuntu 7.10 Gutsy.
[01:38] <Geekthras> sumalr: unfortunately, the screen is completely black in GNOME
[01:38] <Adam__> I need help
[01:38] <sumalr> Geekthras: Then click on the 'Visual Effects' tab
[01:38] <noam_> can you turn off the desktop effects from command line?
[01:39] <sumalr> Geekthras: What happened? Why is it black?
[01:39] <Geekthras> sumalr: I have no idea and have been asking
[01:39] <PwrSurge> Ace2016, : i have the latest openssh on my xubuntu host
[01:39] <Teoz> oy, this is why I love computers
[01:39] <Adam__> can someone help me install the wireless / madwifi on my laptop?
[01:39] <sumalr> Geekthras: Are you able to switch to command line view?
[01:39] <Geekthras> yeah
[01:39] <PwrSurge> installed an update just today
[01:39] <Teoz> they keep me awake all night with promises of functioning
[01:39] <Ace2016> woops wrong person
[01:39] <Adam__> pm if you can help/walk me through i
[01:40] <Ace2016> Synclair: how are you installing it?
[01:40] <Synclair> first of all, I tried compiling..
[01:40] <sumalr> Geekthras: I would go into the command line (Ctrl+Alt+F1) and reinstall GNOME desktop
[01:40] <Synclair> then it started asking for pulseaudio's header files
[01:40] <balthazarguy> Anyone that can tell me how to fix it?
[01:41] <Synclair> and there's where my problems started
[01:41] <sumalr> balthazarguy: What are you trying to fix?
[01:41] <Ace2016> Synclair: Go to this link and just add the correct lne into your fstab, thats all you need to do https://cds.sun.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/CDS-CDS_SMI-Site/en_US/-/USD/ViewProductDetail-Start?ProductRef=innotek-1.5.6-G-F@CDS-CDS_SMI
[01:41] <Geekthras> sumalr: sounds plausible, I'll try it
[01:41] <Ace2016> wait i mean your sources.list
[01:41] <Adam__> if anyone can help me install madwifi on my laptop please IM me
[01:41] <Ace2016> Synclair: not the fstab, the sources.list
[01:42] <balthazarguy> (10:37:59 AM) balthazarguy: I just installed Ubuntu, finally got the internet up. Now I go to get my Nvidia Video card working... I go to the restricted drivers manager, and tell it to enable, then I get the error: Nvidia-GLX-New is not enabled..
[01:42] <Synclair> I just don't have another partition
[01:42] <sumalr> Adam_: Have you tried looking up your madwifi on ubuntuforums?
[01:42] <Adam__> ..no lol
[01:42] <Ace2016> add for example deb http://www.virtualbox.org/debian feisty non-free to /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:42] <chuk> balthazarguy - what version of ubuntu?
[01:42] <Ace2016> Synclair: another partition?
[01:42] <sumalr> balthazarguy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=580390
[01:42] <balthazarguy> Chuck: 7.10 Gutsy
[01:43] <Synclair> yes
[01:43] <Synclair> I did that
[01:43] <Synclair> tried to use synaptic
[01:43] <Pelo> when is hardy coming out ? 17th ?
[01:43] <Pici> Pelo: 24th
[01:43] <Synclair> but tells me that dependencies couldn't be satisfied
[01:43] <sumalr> balthazarguy: Another guy enabled some other repositories and fixed this problem. Give that a try.
[01:43] <Pelo> thanks Pici
[01:43] <Synclair> now I'm downloading the binary
[01:43] <Ace2016> Synclair: add for example deb http://www.virtualbox.org/debian feisty non-free to /etc/apt/sources.list then reload in synaptic and install,
[01:43] <sumalr> balthazarguy: Tick all the boxes in Software Sources (main, restricted, universe, multiverse).
[01:43] <balthazarguy> Ehh.. but what repositories?
[01:43] <sumalr> balthazarguy: Tick all the boxes in Software Sources (main, restricted, universe, multiverse)
[01:43] <Pelo> Synclair, did you enable the extra repositories in synaptic ?
[01:44] <balthazarguy> Sumalr: Kk, will try that, thanks.
[01:44] <tobberoth> Need japanese support in terminal, please help
[01:44] <Synclair> some libraries required
[01:44] <Synclair> :S
[01:44] <Flavius> Hola buenas noches!!
[01:44] <Synclair> dunno what's going on
[01:44] <Synclair> yes I always do
[01:44] <FloodBot2> Synclair: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:44] <Pelo> !jp | tobberoth
[01:44] <ubotu> tobberoth: 日本語の場合は #ubuntu-jp または #kubuntu-jp を参照して下さい
[01:44] <sumalr> balthazarguy: look here if you need more help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=582362http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=582362
[01:44] <Flavius> Hello everybody!
[01:44] <Synclair> Flavius, es un canal en ingles.. trata de hablar en ingles dale¡
[01:44] <Synclair> ?
[01:44] <Pici> !es | Flavius
[01:44] <ubotu> Flavius: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[01:45] <tobberoth> Pelo: I might get help in japanese, and since my terminal doesn't support japanese, that might be an issue
[01:45] <Flavius> ok sorry
[01:45] <balthazarguy> Sumalr: Umm, I don't have a Main, Restricted, Unviverse, Multiverse option.
[01:45] <sumalr> balthazarguy: Using the Synaptic Package Manager?
[01:45] <balthazarguy> Ah, you said Software sources, so I was lookin in there.
[01:46] <Teoz> so, any chance of port scanning with my command prompt under win xp ?
[01:46] <Synclair> it's ok
[01:46] <Pelo> tobberoth, but they migth be able to tell you how to instll japanese support ,  in anycase,  do a apt-cache search *-jp and see what comes up , you might just need a few extra packages you might be able to figure it out by yourself
[01:46] <Synclair> check in repositories option
[01:46] <tobberoth> Pelo: Thanks, I'll try
[01:46] <Synclair> click on add
[01:46] <Pici> Teoz: Ask in ##windows, and no, not without 3rd party software
[01:46] <Pelo> Teoz, ask in ##windows
[01:46] <Synclair> and click on universe, multiverse
[01:46] <Teoz> thanks Pici and Pelo
[01:46] <Pelo> sinbox, and backport in the 3rd tab
[01:46] <balthazarguy> Sumalr: DO I want Software Sources or the Package Manager?
[01:47] <Pelo> balthazarguy, both
[01:47] <tobberoth> Pelo: You can't put * in search terms :/ regexp error
[01:47] <sumalr> balthazarguy: Package Manager
[01:47] <sumalr> balthazarguy: Check all the ones in "Downloadable from the Internet"
[01:47] <Pelo> tobberoth, try with just -jp then . but if you have access to gui searching in synaptic might be faster
[01:47] <balthazarguy> Kk.. I don't see those options in either one tho..
[01:48] <balthazarguy> Kk.
[01:48] <tobberoth> Pelo: It thinks -jp is an argument and doesn't recognize it.. and no, I have no GUI :/
[01:48] <sumalr> balthazarguy: in parantheses, it says main, universe, restricted, multiverse
[01:48] <Pelo> tobberoth, just jp then
[01:48] <Pelo> tobberoth, or '-jp'
[01:48] <balthazarguy> Sumalr: Ah, next to the catagories then?
[01:48] <tobberoth> Pelo: Yeah, I did try that. It gave me like a million results ^^ I'll try the single quotes and see if I can find something, thanks
[01:49] <Pelo> tobberoth, I'm checking in synpatic for you ( gives you an idea how bored I am)
[01:49] <Dr_willis> i alwyas seem to do 'apt-cache search | grep pattern'
[01:49] <sumalr> balthazarguy: in the Synaptic Package Manager > Settings > Repositories > Check all the boxes under "Downloadable from the Internet"
[01:49] <balthazarguy> Ahh ok.
[01:50] <Pelo> tobberoth, the 2 letter code for japanese is ja apparently
[01:50] <balthazarguy> Sumalr: Then I just press quit?
[01:50] <sumalr> balthazarguy: Close the software sources window, yes
[01:51] <sumalr> balthazarguy: Now go through this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368&highlight=latest+nvidia+drives
[01:51] <Don_Miguel> troxor: That worked !!  14 updates .. and all seems good ... Thank YOU !!!
[01:51] <sumalr> balthazarguy: Also look at this which addresses your problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=582362
[01:51] <PwrSurge> looks like lots of ppl having ssh connection reset by peer issues but no real solution
[01:51] <balthazarguy> Sumalr: Ok thanks.
[01:51] <sumalr> PwrSurge: Strange, I had that problem too but the keepalive thing fixed it for me
[01:51] <PwrSurge> based on googling so far
[01:52] <sumalr> and I googled for my answer too
[01:52] <sumalr> balthazarguy: np
[01:52] <Pelo> tobberoth, try  sudo apt-get install doc-linux-ja-text , those are howtos and faq about linux in japanesse
[01:53] <tobberoth> Pelo: Thanks, I'll check it out
[01:54] <d3lf1n0> hi
[01:54] <tobberoth> Pelo: I did the get, now how do I find/open it?
[01:54] <ForestBear> hey
[01:55] <ForestBear> I have a problem
[01:55] <veynom> !watchdog
[01:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about watchdog - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:55] <ForestBear> I can run Warcraft III frozen throne in Ubuntu Linux version 7.10 gutsy
[01:56] <mike-ekim> someone please help em get this wireless up and working, all drivers installed, got my interfaces associated with teh device perfectly, ive tried using various gui tools and interfaces file to try to configure this. I keep getting a message wlan0: link is not ready. can someone pleaseee try to helpo me troubleshoot this
[01:56] <mike-ekim> I have tried almost anything
[01:56] <ForestBear> via wine .58, that is, but the battle.net option stops at the "initializing connection" screen
[01:56] <cute_bettong> i have an amd x2 64 running in 32 bit mode what kernal do i use... is there one for amd cpu's?
[01:56] <veynom> are you using NDIS Wrapper?
[01:56] <mike-ekim> yes
[01:56] <veynom> is your wireless card USB?
[01:56] <mike-ekim> yes
[01:57] <ForestBear>  OK so this is my problem in whole: I can run Warcraft III frozen throne in Ubuntu Linux version 7.10 gutsy via wine .58, but the battle.net option stops at the "initializing connection" screen
[01:57] <veynom> have you tried to modprobe ndiswrapper?
[01:57] <mike-ekim> yes everything is loaded
[01:57] <jjt001> hey guys
[01:57] <Pelo> tobberoth, try locate doc-linux-ja-text  to find where it is , once you know open it with nano
[01:57] <jjt001> the people over at gnome-hackers banned me for constructively criticizing Jeff Waugh
[01:57] <jjt001> is there any way i can get myself back on the channel?
[01:57] <veynom> do you see the network when you do sudo iwlist scanning?
[01:58] <mike-ekim> yes i see a hunch of them
[01:58] <veynom> have you told NDIS the ID of the network you want to connect to?
[01:58] <Pici> jjt001: This isnt the place to discuss bans from other channels.
[01:58] <veynom> the essid i mean
[01:58] <mike-ekim> hm
[01:58] <mike-ekim> veynom: i believe so
[01:58] <jjt001> Pici: i know, but i have no way of talking to the people on the gnome irc
[01:58] <mike-ekim> I have specified it in interfaces file, and kwifimanager as well
[01:58] <mike-ekim> i have entered the WEP key as well
[01:59] <ForestBear> guys could you help me?
[01:59] <veynom> try this: sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "NetworkNameHere"
[01:59] <mike-ekim> i did that
[01:59] <mike-ekim> followed by iwconfig wlan0 commit as well
[01:59] <veynom> is your network using encryption?
[01:59] <Pelo> ForestBear, ask in #winehq
[01:59] <ForestBear> ok thanks
[01:59] <mike-ekim> and when i do iwconfig, it still shows 'any' on essied
[01:59] <mike-ekim> but the gui programs that are configuring my wireless keep the proper essid information, so i duno about that
[01:59] <mike-ekim> veynom, I believe so, it has 128 bit WEP
[02:00] <Pici> jjt001: I'm not sure what Freenode or Ubuntu has to do with Gnome's irc network...
[02:00] <veynom> mike-ekim: try setting your essid explicitly
[02:00] <mike-ekim> how?
[02:00] <veynom> sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "NetworkNameHere"
[02:00] <mike-ekim> yeah ive done that numerouis times
[02:00] <michael> Hello
[02:00] <Pici> jjt001: join #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to discuss it further, I dont know what to suggest though
[02:00] <veynom> have you told NDIS your network key?
[02:01] <mike-ekim> nah, how would i do that
[02:01] <d3lf1n0> I am Italian... there are the modem(not router) for ethernet?
[02:01] <veynom> sudo iwconfig wlan0 enc 'mykeyhere'
[02:01] <mike-ekim> i just did iwconfig wlan0 essid "NAME" and iwconfig still returns off/any for essid
[02:01] <mike-ekim> but it shows me the encryption key tho
[02:01] <adante> hi guys can someone explain the rules for whether a mount automatically turns up on the desktop or not?
[02:02] <mike-ekim> security mode is set to "restricted" as well
[02:02] <adante> if i mount something into my ~/mydoc it doesn't, if i mount the same thing into ~/cdrive it does
[02:02] <powder^> d3lf1n0 I have a motorola modem for ADSL it is ethernet and I have no router
[02:02] <veynom> adante: check your fstab
[02:02] <michael> can anyone help me get kde 4.0.3, or 4.0.2 installed ?   I'm running 7.10 here now ....
[02:02] <d3lf1n0> powder that's ok thenk you ^^
[02:02] <d3lf1n0> thank*
[02:02] <veynom> does your router have a mac address ban on it?
[02:02] <PwrSurge> added ServerAliveInterval in ssh_conf
[02:02] <PwrSurge> hopefully it helps
[02:03] <patrick_> i have gutsy on my laptop that uses touch sensitive controls, although no matter how high i turn up the volume i still can barely hear anything out of it..how do i fix it?
[02:03] <adante> veynom: fstab does not have anything corresponding to those directories
[02:03] <mike-ekim> ah
[02:03] <mike-ekim> wait i think i just fixed it
[02:03] <powder^> ubuntu 7.10 Server, or Desktop.. which will be best to operate beside XP
[02:03] <mike-ekim> oh man
[02:04] <mike-ekim> oh dude, I jsut got it man!
[02:04] <d3lf1n0> powder and how match this more or less?
[02:04] <Gilou> hi
[02:04] <mike-ekim> i did iwconfig wlan0 key open
[02:04] <mike-ekim> !!
[02:04] <veynom> adante: you can add an entry to your /etc/fstab to have it automatically mount whatever at boot time
[02:04] <powder^> d3lf1n0 say again please?
[02:04] <Gilou> I seem to have a bug using Hardy Haron
[02:04] <Gilou> kernel bug
[02:04] <michael> anyone know how I can try out the new KDE ?
[02:04] <Gilou> has anyone tried it on a travelmate laptop?
[02:05] <mike-ekim> veynom: thanks for your time
[02:05] <adante> veynom: but i don't want it to, i was curious about the automounting rules, as said why does something mounted to ~/mydoc/ not get automounted while ~/cdrive/ does?
[02:05] <d3lf1n0> how much coast
[02:05] <adante> er, not automounted but, it shows up as a cd-type folder on my desktop?
[02:05] <LainIwak1ra> powder^: just use desktop unless you plan to host a website or something
[02:05] <Ben_> michael: install kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[02:05] <Pelo> tobberoth, I can'T figure it out either,  this is their website if that helps  http://www.linux.or.jp/JF/
[02:05] <powder^> d3lf1n0 the modem is sold by ATT to new subscriber.. it is a Netopia CN
[02:05] <michael> Ben: Thank you
[02:05] <tobberoth> Pelo: Allright, thanks
[02:06] <pharoh> #compiz-fusion-dev
[02:06] <powder^> LainIwak1ra -- ok.. yes, I want server, services
[02:06] <LainIwak1ra> services?
[02:06] <powder^> yah, XP can put up a web domain
[02:06] <Khajavi> help me: what does it mean:  Depends: libwxgtk2.8-0 (>= 2.8.7) but 2.8.1.1-0ubuntu4 is to be installed
[02:06] <d3lf1n0> ah i undertand now...thank you
[02:06] <LainIwak1ra> powder^: ok then a server would be nice with a LAMP installation
[02:07] <veynom> adante: theres an option under /etc/fstab, i believe it's called auto that means it automatically mounts at boot time. perhaps your ~/mydoc/ is not listed in/etc/fstab while your ~/cdrive/ is?
[02:07] <veynom> !mount
[02:07] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[02:07] <veynom> !fstab
[02:07] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[02:07] <powder^> d3lf1n0 -- yes, the Netopia is in a new Motorola plastic case
[02:07] <Khajavi>  help me: what does it mean:  Depends: libwxgtk2.8-0 (>= 2.8.7) but 2.8.1.1-0ubuntu4 is to be installed
[02:07] <d3lf1n0> perfect...great!!!
[02:07] <Khajavi> what should I do?
[02:08] <Acomaco> apt-get install what ever you wish khajavi
[02:08] <Acomaco> if its needed it will automaticly download it for you if you need
[02:08] <d3lf1n0> sorry for my most ugly English ahahah
[02:08] <Khajavi> whein I want to install moinmoin it say:   Depends: libwxgtk2.8-0 (>= 2.8.7) but 2.8.1.1-0ubuntu4 is to be installed
[02:08] <veynom> apt-get dist-upgrade i believe will do the same
[02:08] <Pelo> Khajavi, install  2.8.1.1-0ubuntu4
[02:08] <patrick_> anyone know what to do about my sound problem on my laptop??
[02:08] <veynom> it checks dependencies for everything on the system
[02:09] <veynom> dist-upgrade in addition to performing the function of upgrade,
[02:09] <veynom>            also intelligently handles changing dependencies with new versions
[02:09] <veynom>            of packages
[02:09] <Pelo> Khajavi, sudo apt-get install libwxgtk and let it work it out
[02:09] <Khajavi> Pelo: you say: apt-get install libwxgtk 2.8.1.1 ?
[02:09] <veynom> Khajavi: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:10] <Pelo> Khajavi, it should install if you don'T provide the numbers , it will pick the most recent in the repos
[02:10] <michael> Ben:   I tried to apt-get kubuntu-kde4-desktop.... says not found....  do I need to do anything special ?
[02:10] <Pelo> veynom, that,s for upgrading distributions,  not something t do lightly
[02:10] <AK47> How can i mount a iso to install?
[02:10] <Khajavi> Pelo: ok. I would update my system then install it?
[02:11] <Pelo> Khajavi,   don't get what you mean,  I just check and the command you want is sudo apt-get isntall libwxgtk2.8-0 libwxgtk2.8-dev ,
[02:11] <AK47> How can i mount a iso? to install?
[02:12] <Ben_> Michael: Sorry, that particular package is only available in ubuntu 8.04, but you can follow the instructions at http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php to get it working in ubuntu 7.10
[02:12] <Pelo> AK47, to isntall ubuntu ?
[02:12] <Pelo> !iso | AK47
[02:12] <ubotu> AK47: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[02:12] <veynom> AK47: sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 myiso /dev/dvd or w/e mount point you want
[02:12] <pharoh> whenever i start my devilspie,it says no s-expressions loaded...what di i do?
[02:12] <d3lf1n0> hi goodnight hear in italy are 3.15 on the morning...eheheheh bye
[02:12] <tripps> anyone ever figure out if opensync supports google apps for domains?
[02:13] <Khajavi> Pelo: thanks. the problem solved with installing : sudo apt-get install libwxgtk....
[02:13] <michael> Ben:  ok... I'm thinking of upgrading to 8.04 anyway... I might do that then install kde.
[02:13] <patrick_> real quick, when is the next stable release of ubuntu going to be available? (as in upgrade)
[02:13] <michael> patrick: 22 days
[02:13] <Pelo> pharoh, did you make little devilspie files in the /home/username/.devilspie ?
[02:13] <patrick_> michael hardy heron right?
[02:13] <Pelo> Khajavi, congrats
[02:13] <Ben_> michael: okay. just upgrade, then install the new package.
[02:13] <veynom> !hardy
[02:13] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[02:13] <michael> yup.. there is a counter on the ubuntu page
[02:13] <NW2190> Hey, I was just looking at my internet connection on WireShark, and I noticed that my computer is randomly sending FTP packets to some guy in india haha. That's not normal is it?
[02:14] <pharoh> Pelo, i have to?how do i do that?
[02:14] <IndyGunFreak> NW2190: uh, i would say no
[02:14] <veynom> NW2190: not unless you live in india
[02:14] <IndyGunFreak> NW2190: you on a linux box or a windows box?
[02:14] <NW2190> IndyGunFreak: linux
[02:14] <NW2190> 203.92.56.62 thats the IP
[02:15] <powder^> it's Torvalds in India
[02:15] <michael> anyone know off hand the command to upgrade to 8.04 ?
[02:15] <ZummiG777> Question: I'm trying to uninstall samba on my 7.10 box TOTALLY, and force apt to reinstall the default config files.  However, I deleted /etc/samba but when I do an apt-get install, it won't recreate the directory.  How can I force this?
[02:15] <NW2190> and it keeps saying "Response: 530 Login incorrect"
[02:15] <Pelo> pharoh, basicaly they are text files that get loaded in to devilspie when it starts,  each text file for a specific event ,  basicaly you give them a string to look for  and an action to perform,   type man devilspie in the therminal you will get directed to an exemple file,  there are also exemples in the ubuntuforums.org and on the devilspie website
[02:15] <IndyGunFreak> !upgrade | michael but proceed at your own risk, Hardy si hardly stable
[02:15] <ubotu> michael but proceed at your own risk, Hardy si hardly stable: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:16] <Pelo> brb , food on stove
[02:16] <veynom> !ext4
[02:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext4 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:16] <veynom> !ext3
[02:16] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[02:16] <AK47> Pelo where should i mount it to  sudo mount -o loop COD4.iso <?>
[02:16] <veynom> AK47:  try /media/dvd
[02:17] <Gilou> michael> update-manager -d
[02:17] <michael> I am using the fs-driver myself.... works perfect for me so far
[02:17] <AK47> veynom Does not exist
[02:17] <veynom> do an ls of /media
[02:17] <Pelo> AK47, try making a mount point in  /media
[02:17] <michael> Gilou: Thanks... I'll run that right now :)
[02:17] <Khajavi> I installed moinmoin-common. now how can in run it?
[02:18] <Pelo> Khajavi, type  moinmoin in the terminal
[02:18] <AK47> Pelo work like a charm thanks
[02:18] <powder^> you realize, I am going to Ubuntu because of MS, and I want beryl.. and other goodies
[02:18] <LjL> !beryl | powder^
[02:18] <ubotu> powder^: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[02:18] <veynom> i was about to say that arg
[02:18] <veynom> but compiz = nice
[02:18] <Khajavi> Pelo: bash: moinmoin: command not found
[02:18] <Pelo> Khajavi, is this a gui app ?
[02:18] <Gilou> michael> it doesn't work on my laptop though
[02:19] <veynom> Khajavi: try the man page on it maybe?
[02:19] <LjL> Pelo, it's a wiki
[02:19] <powder^> I very well can install what is in linux already
[02:19] <Pelo> LjL, hewwww, Khajavi try moin
[02:19] <Khajavi> pelo: moinmoin is wiki, like wiki.ubuntu
[02:19] <powder^> to get beryl,,
[02:19] <LjL> Khajavi, type « dpkg -L moinmoin-common | grep doc », see if there's any documentation. do you have any server installed?
[02:19] <LjL> web server
[02:19] <powder^> I mran
[02:19] <LjL> !beryl > powder^    (powder^, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:19] <michael> Gilou:  I've had video problems with my nvidia 6600 but didn't play around enough to give it a chance.
[02:20] <veynom> michael: is it sli or agp?
[02:20] <powder^> LjL isn't beryl in linux?
[02:20] <veynom> in fiesty it was known as beryl
[02:20] <michael> Gilou: The main thing I want is gnome 2.22 and I'd like to try kde 4.0.3.  If I could do that with out upgrading I would
[02:20] <Gilou> well, I have major kernel issues, regarding ACPI so..
[02:20] <LjL> powder^, READ what i sent you.
[02:20] <bobbyyu> Does anyone know where I can get programming help?
[02:20] <Pelo> powder^, beryl is now called compiz-fusion,  if you have gutsy or higher it is already installed,  it's called desktop effect,  check in the prefs menu
[02:20] <prettyricky_> can some one tell me why my Alt-F2 key is not functioning? Is there anything I can do to be able to use it?
[02:20] <veynom> bobbyyu: what language?
[02:20] <Gilou> michael> you can, but it's probably a better idea to upgrade it totally
[02:20] <bobbyyu> Oracle in ASP.NET (ADO)
[02:20] <michael> veynom: agp
[02:20] <Khajavi> LjL: this command hava lots of url
[02:21] <Daniel3> Hi
[02:21] <powder^> veynom the way I read it, several Linux distros come with it
[02:21] <Khajavi> LJL: what should I do?
[02:21] <michael> gilou: yeah.. I'm doing the upgrade now
[02:21] <roychr1> How do I know which version of glibc I am using?
[02:21] <veynom> beryl has been replaced with compiz
[02:21] <Gilou> I'm basically... upset about ubuntu now
[02:21] <Gilou> and linux, too, because my acpi prob seems not to be ubuntu specific
[02:21] <powder^> uh.. ok did compbrain steal it?
[02:21] <powder^> compiz?
[02:21] <Daniel3> I can't copy a folder to my /boot folder for some reason. It says that I don't have permissions, but I am admin.
[02:22] <bobbyyu> veynom: Anything?
[02:22] <LjL> Khajavi: they're paths, not URLs. you should probably, well, not run a web server and a wiki on it, if you don't know how to get to terms with the basic installation of moinmoin. no offense, but unless you're going to run this only inside a private and secure LAN, it'll just cause you trouble. and hacking.
[02:22] <roychr1> I want to install google's toolbar but it says it only works on linux with glibc equal or higher than 2.3.5
[02:22] <veynom> powder^: you get to it using system -> preferences -> appearance -> visual effects and turning it on
[02:22] <IndyGunFreak> Daniel3: what are you trying to copy to /boot?
[02:22] <powder^> kool
[02:22] <Daniel3> pc efi v80
[02:22] <Pelo> roychr1, check theversion in synaptic , in the admin menu
[02:22] <Daniel3> So I can boot into OS X
[02:22] <LSD|Ninja> OSx86 dioscussion is kind of off-limits here ;)
[02:22] <IndyGunFreak> Daniel3: open a terminal, gksudo nautilus  but proceed at your own risk
[02:23] <prettyricky_> can some one tell me why my Alt-F2 key is not functioning? Is there anything I can do to be able to use it?
[02:23] <Daniel3> What do you mean
[02:23] <AK47> How can i lock a hard drive
[02:23] <IndyGunFreak> what do you mean what do i mean?
[02:23] <LSD|Ninja> wait, wrong channel. n/m
[02:23] <AK47> from other people / family members?
[02:23] <veynom> bobbyyu: try joining ##asp.net
[02:23] <LSD|Ninja> IndyGunFreak: I think  he was talking to me
[02:23] <IndyGunFreak> oh ok
[02:23] <Daniel3> What do you mean by proced at own risk
[02:23] <michael> Thanks for the help guys....   night
[02:23] <AK47> For piracy.
[02:23] <Starnestommy> Daniel3: it could be dangerous
[02:23] <IndyGunFreak> Daniel3: i mean exactlyl what i said
[02:23] <Daniel3> proceed*
[02:23] <Daniel3> oh
[02:23] <Daniel3> Ok
[02:23] <Pelo> AK47, just make your /home/user folder  only accseeisble to you ,   sudo chmod 700 /home/username
[02:24] <Daniel3> Well is there another way to add Mac OS X to grub
[02:24] <Daniel3> I have tried some ways but they didn't work
[02:24] <IndyGunFreak> Daniel3: i'm not familiar w/ mac and grub, sorry
[02:24] <pharoh> hey,who knows where i can get a really good dock?i had one once..but that was on SUSE.
[02:24] <Pelo> Daniel3, ask in #grub
[02:24] <Daniel3> kibadock
[02:24] <Daniel3> ok
[02:24] <AK47> Pelo does that work with another hard  drive
[02:24] <veynom> sure does
[02:24] <AK47> Pelo like /media/<driver name?
[02:24] <Pelo> AK47, might
[02:25] <Pelo> AK47, but pointless with removable media
[02:25] <AK47> Pelo sudo  chmod 700 /media/M4A1
[02:25] <veynom> AK47: you can make it apply to anything because each file on a linux system has a permission
[02:25] <AK47> Pelo its a internal hard drive
[02:25] <roychr1> Pelo: When I search for glibc, onl the glibc-doc shows up and it is not even installed.  I must not be doing it right.
[02:25] <Pelo> AK47, you might want to look into encryption
[02:25] <roychr1> *only
[02:25] <splog> anyone know why my video on utube or google is like out of sync sort of ike in the old days when you lost vertical sync except in this case the picture doesnt move up or down but a white line moves up thru the pic. Sound is OK
[02:25] <AK47> Pelo can u  give the link
[02:26] <Pelo> AK47, nvm the encryption bit ,  if the internal drive is ext3 you can probably change the owner and permission so only your username can access it
[02:26] <roychr1> Pelo: libc is glibc ?
[02:26] <Pelo> AK47, we're getting in over my head now
[02:26] <Pelo> roychr1, libglib possibly
[02:26] <ChaosTheory> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-tutorials-howtos-reference-material/94685-wireless-lan-linux.html
[02:26] <ChaosTheory> I'm getting it from the internet.
[02:26] <ChaosTheory> But it's still asking me for my disk (and I can't seem to find my disk).
[02:27] <AK47> Pelo so if i make an new user they would need a password to open up the hard drive
[02:27] <veynom> if they don't have rights to it they can't see it
[02:27] <ChaosTheory> Can anyone help?
[02:27] <Pelo> AK47, you can create a group with access to that drive and add the new user to that group,
[02:28] <Pelo> AK47, but we are getting in a bit over my head
[02:28] <owNeR> ne var
[02:28] <BarryToeman> how can i find the cas and clock speed of my ram in command-line? /proc/memino and lshw show none of that.
[02:28] <veynom> ChaosTheory: are you trying to install a wireless card under linux?
[02:28] <DariusTheoNoir> correct me if I am wrong, but can't you just modify /etc/fstab as root and simply specify the user access with options?
[02:28] <ChaosTheory> veynom: Well, I'm trying to set up a wireless network on this computer (this is the main computer).
[02:29] <Pelo> DariusTheoNoir, root could but then root has access to everything anyway
[02:29] <veynom> ChaosTheory: you're trying to use the computer as the router, or just connect the computer to a router?
[02:29] <AK47> Pelo how do i unmount?
[02:29] <veynom> umount /dev/dvd
[02:29] <AK47> Pelo how do i unmount?
[02:29] <ChaosTheory> veynom: I believe this is the router. . .
[02:29] <Pelo> AK47, sudo umount /mountpoint
[02:29] <ChaosTheory> veynom: I want to get the desktop PC, which is running XP, to join a network (that I need to create).
[02:30] <ChaosTheory> veynom: Formerly it was the other way around.
[02:30] <jjt001> hey yallk
[02:30] <jjt001> hey yall
[02:30] <veynom> ChaosTheory: thats beyond my knowledge
[02:30] <splog> anyone know why my video on utube or google is like out of sync sort of like in the old days when you lost vertical sync except in this case the picture doesnt move up or down but a white line moves up thru the pic. Sound is OK
[02:30] <ChaosTheory> veynom: Okay, thanks.
[02:30] <veynom> however, if you need to get a wireless card running under linux, i know how to do that
[02:31] <pharoh> Pelo, hey where can i download source code for a dock?
[02:31] <Pelo> ChaosTheory, for xp stuff try asking in ##windows
[02:31] <veynom> pharoh: have you tried sourceforge?
[02:31] <Pelo> pharoh, you mean like in a mac ?
[02:31] <Pelo> !avant | pharoh
[02:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avant - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:31] <roychr1> I recently installed ubuntu 7.10 on my Dell Dimension 4500S and I am using a lenovo USB keyboard.  They numeric keypad on the right does not work.  I enable or disable nu lock (the light goes on and off) but I canot use the numbers.  Any ideas?
[02:31] <Pelo> !awn
[02:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about awn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:32] <Pelo> pharoh, google for avant window navigator
[02:32] <veynom> roychr1: did you make sure to select the proper keyboard layout when you install ubuntu?
[02:32] <haker> how do i connect to a site trough php ?
[02:32] <haker> through*
[02:32] <roychr1> I selected "Generic 105-key (Intl) PC".
[02:32] <Gilou> does anyone speaks kernel bug message fluently? :)
[02:32] <pharoh> Pelo, umm..like just a dock at the bottom of the screen with all my icons en all.
[02:32] <roychr1> veynom: Is that the right layout? Generic 105-key (Intl) PC
[02:33] <Pelo> pharoh, google for avant window navigator
[02:33] <veynom> roychr1: it depends on your keyboard, one moment.
[02:33] <Daniel3> pharoh: Just get KibaDock
[02:33] <veynom> is it in U.S. English format?
[02:33] <haker> anyone know php?
[02:33] <adante> veynom: neither my ~/mydoc nor ~/cdrive is present in the fstab
[02:34] <Pelo> later folks
[02:34] <Daniel3> bye
[02:34] <veynom> adante: you can add one in there manually to make it behave as you desire
[02:34] <pharoh> Daniel3, i had KibaDock when i had SUSE,dint like it that much.
[02:34] <veynom> adante: assuming you have root privileages(sp)
[02:34] <adante> veynom: ok, but the thing is, i do not desire it, i am just wondering why one is added and the other is not
[02:34] <Daniel3> oh ok
[02:34] <Daniel3> Then use Avant
[02:35] <roychr1> veynom: I would say it is a us english format.
[02:35] <roychr1> veynom: Model is SK-8825 (L)
[02:35] <veynom> adante: if I were to give an answer shooting from the hip, i'd say its because cdrom is listed under /dev/cdrom and your mydoc is not
[02:35] <ChaosTheory> How do I set up an ad hoc network?
[02:35] <pen> custom columns in nautilus? is it possible?
[02:36] <veynom> roychr1: open up your keyboard preferences by going to system -> preferences -> keyboard
[02:36] <sacamano> Hi, my amarok is a little messed up. How do you delete the configuration file/where is it?
[02:36] <pen> or be more specific, how do I add columns for music files
[02:36] <veynom> !adhoc
[02:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adhoc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:36] <veynom> !ad hoc
[02:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ad hoc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:36] <pen> lol
[02:36] <roychr1> veynom: I am already there.  That's where I see that the current layout is  Generic 105-key (Intl) PC
[02:37] <Gilou> whenever HAL starts, it spits a lot of kernel bugs.. if someone has any idea how to deal with that (on Hardy Heron)
[02:37] <Pici> Gilou: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[02:37] <Gilou> thanks
[02:37] <ChaosTheory> Okay, starting from the beginning.
[02:38] <ChaosTheory> I can't see the "Wireless" setting in "Network settings."
[02:38] <veynom> roychr1: I'm not sure then :(
[02:38] <Adam__> I searched the forum for help and still have no wireless connections available. can someone please help me.
[02:39] <veynom> Adam__: is your adapter a usb wireless card?
[02:39] <BarryToeman> ChaosTheory: it won't show wireless if you don't have a (working) wireless card.
[02:39] <Adam__> no
[02:39] <ChaosTheory> BarryToeman: I have to do this whole thing with ndiswrapper. . . T_T
[02:39] <ChaosTheory> Anyone have the patience to guide me through ndiswrapper installation? =P
[02:39] <Khajav1> when I want to install sudo apt-get install codeblocks the prompts say: Package codeblocks is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:39] <Khajav1> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:39] <Khajav1> is only available from another source
[02:39] <Khajav1> E: Package codeblocks has no installation candidate
[02:39] <DariusTheoNoir> Adam what kind of hardware for your wireless card?
[02:40] <FloodBot2> Khajav1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:40] <Adam__> it's an Atheros AR5006EG
[02:40] <luciano_uisk> hi to all
[02:40] <veynom> Adam__: i'm assuming your wireless card is then pci? does it show up when you do lspci in a terminal?
[02:40] <luciano_uisk> i am having troubles with my x server, ...
[02:40] <AK47> Pelo sudo umount /mountpoint
[02:40] <BarryToeman> ChaosTheory: eww... I've always been able to avoid it.  Did you check for compatibility at wiki.ubuntu.com or ubuntuforums.org?
[02:40] <veynom> !ndiswrapper
[02:40] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:40] <AK47> Pelo umount: /mountpoint: not found
[02:40] <luciano_uisk> when i run "glxinfo" it reboots the x server
[02:40] <commondork> ChaosTheory: Try this link, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[02:40] <veynom> !ndiswrapper | ChaosTheory
[02:40] <ubotu> ChaosTheory: please see above
[02:41] <commondork> Does anyone have a recommendation for a C++ IDE for Ubuntu?
[02:41] <DariusTheoNoir> I suppose you are in the thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=212600
[02:42] <Daniel3> kdevelop
[02:42] <Khajav1> commondork: Eclicpse CDT
[02:42] <Daniel3> commondork: kdevelop
[02:42] <veynom> commondork: I use Geany
[02:42] <Khajav1> commondork: codeblocks
[02:42] <Gilou> I use vim
[02:42] <Gilou> :p
[02:42] <veynom> lol
[02:43] <DariusTheoNoir> first place I always check is in "software sources" and make sure you have checks in the right places
[02:43] <commondork> i usually use pico but would like something more appealing
[02:43] <commondork> I will check out those four, thanks :)
[02:43] <ChaosTheory> I'm running into a problem in the first step. >.>
[02:43] <veynom> geany is a nice generic gui text editor that offers different color coding schemes depending on what language you're writing
[02:43] <ChaosTheory> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[02:43] <ChaosTheory> It says the resource is temporarily unavailable -- is another process using it?
[02:43] <Khajav1> codeblock is an c++ IDE. any one try it? I am trying to install it but it is not going to be installed?
[02:44] <ChaosTheory> I have three things running: Xchat, Firefox, and Terminal?
[02:44] <veynom> ChaosTheory: do you know what kind of wireless card you have?
[02:44] <ChaosTheory> veynom: Yes.
[02:44] <veynom> !HCL
[02:44] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[02:45] <ChaosTheory> veynom: 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4328 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 03)
[02:45] <Adam__> veynom: Atheros AR5006EG
[02:45] <veynom> ChaosTheory: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[02:45] <veynom> first check to see if your card is supported
[02:45] <SkinnYPupp> Anyone know of a good audio EQ for ubuntu???
[02:45] <MeatGrinder> I installed ubuntu root to a root "/" partition using a size of only 5GB which now seems to be a mistake as I have only 1.5GB left. Can I safely use gparted to resize root with no problems? I have separate partitions for /, /home, /boot and of course swap
[02:45] <veynom> SkinnYPupp: audacity
[02:46] <SkinnYPupp> veynom: thanx
[02:46] <ChaosTheory> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsBroadcom
[02:46] <veynom> SkinnYPupp: you can also go search under Applications - >add/remove
[02:46] <Khajav1> MeatGrinder: Gparted is not very safe way.
[02:46] <ChaosTheory> Mine isn't listed there (it's 4328).
[02:46] <mouseboyx> Can ubuntu be installed on an Eee pc?
[02:46] <Khajav1> MeatGrinder: try another programs
[02:46] <DariusTheoNoir> MeatGrinder, I did something like that once...my recommendation would be to backup and repeat the process...resizing partitions is ....risky...at best
[02:46] <rshives> Hello everyone.
[02:46] <rbil> mouseboyx: I've heard of people doing it
[02:47] <MeatGrinder> DariusTheoNoir, yikes
[02:47] <DariusTheoNoir> ah..its only 5 gig
[02:47] <MeatGrinder> Khajav1, recommendations?
[02:47] <TaRDy> does anybody know where or how to create a "UserAuthFile" ?
[02:47] <MeatGrinder> yeah
[02:47] <DariusTheoNoir> not a big deal
[02:47] <DariusTheoNoir> just backup
[02:47] <markys> mouseboyx: eeeXubuntu is made for the eee pc
[02:47] <MeatGrinder> 5GB is ok?
[02:47] <veynom> !xubuntu | mouseboyx
[02:47] <ubotu> mouseboyx: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels
[02:47] <Khajav1> MeatGrinder: my recommendation is not free software
[02:47] <mouseboyx> Thankx
[02:48] <metbsd> how many cd does xubuntu have
[02:48] <MeatGrinder> should i use partimage to backup?
[02:48] <metbsd> should be smaller? also, does kubuntu have kde4? does it run well?
[02:48] <MeatGrinder> I figure i only need to back up my /home partition
[02:48] <veynom> !kde4
[02:48] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[02:48] <Khajav1> MeatGrinder: PartitionMagic is a very good solution but not free
[02:48] <DariusTheoNoir> oh...well...sounds like you can probably mount an 8 gig jumper and just straight copy whatever data and junk you have
[02:49] <DariusTheoNoir> no need to copy the whole system
[02:49] <MeatGrinder> Khajav1, yeah but i heard it doesn't play with linux well (partitionmagic)
[02:49] <veynom> its always a good idea to backup your personal data before making any sweeping changes to a system
[02:49] <veynom> MeatGrinder: I use partition magic and it works fine, but thats me
[02:49] <talcite_> Does anyone here have experience with ssh and passkeys?
[02:49] <Gilou> I do
[02:49] <geZe> hi, i have a question about this howto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=703409 "Aga*in, unzip it and cd into that (src) directory using terminal." <- what exactly should i do? there are about 50 files in there
[02:50] <MeatGrinder> veynom, from windows
[02:50] <veynom> is that a question?
[02:50] <geZe> maybe cp them? just cd into another directory seems pointless
[02:50] <Khajav1> MeatGrinder: backupting /home is not suffiecent
[02:50] <veynom> I have partition magic installed under my windows partition of my dual boot system
[02:51] <roychr1> I recently installed ubuntu 7.10 on my Dell Dimension 4500S and I am using a lenovo USB keyboard.  They numeric keypad on the right does not work.  I enable or disable nu lock (the light goes on and off) but I canot use the numbers.  Any ideas?
[02:51] <MeatGrinder> Khajav1, can i use partimage?
[02:51] <DariusTheoNoir> well...depends on what he has...if you've installed a bunch of stuff and you want it again, use something like apt-on-cd to create a second install disk--prevents you from having to download all the stuff you did before
[02:52] <Khajav1> MeatGrinder: I don't know about it.
[02:52] <veynom> roychr1: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=223028
[02:52] <Khajav1> MeatGrinder: you can remaster your linux to backup it
[02:52] <DariusTheoNoir> I've reinstalled my system about 5 times (experimenting with other distros--I must say that I keep coming back to this one)
[02:53] <MeatGrinder> Khajav1, i don't understand what you mean by remaster
[02:53] <Khajav1> MeatGrinder: remastersys and reconstructors are softwars that backup your system by remastering your system
[02:54] <MeatGrinder> Khajav1, guess i need to read up on those
[02:54] <Khajav1> MeatGrinder: try to install reconstructor.
[02:55] <cookiemonster078> i need help with my dvd burner /etc/fstab has it as a cdrom. how do I correct this
[02:55] <MeatGrinder> Khajav1, is it an imaging app?
[02:55] <billy> whats the diff between KDE and GNOME?
[02:55] <billy> and xclient?
[02:55] <DariusTheoNoir> KDE has a less intuitive interface
[02:55] <DariusTheoNoir> in my opinion
[02:55] <Khajav1> MeatGrinder: it create a live cd or dvd from your current ubuntu
[02:55] <MeatGrinder> KDE is cluttered, in my opinion
[02:56] <alan_m> KDE is a lot more graphically intensive than gnome billy.
[02:56] <billy> so why would you use it over gnome?
[02:56] <DariusTheoNoir> I don't ;)
[02:56] <MeatGrinder> Khajav1, ah! so it creates an image that fits on a disc. Nice!
[02:56] <alan_m> billy, because its more beautiful to some and it looks somewhat like the windows GUI.
[02:56] <MeatGrinder> Khajav1, sounds like I might need to use DVD, I take it the program will span across CDs
[02:56] <billy> then why not just stick with windows? lol.. thats part of the reason i switched lol
[02:56] <Khajav1> MeatGrinder: yes
[02:56] <kumarphilly> does anyone here use xchat?
[02:56] <DariusTheoNoir> I use windowmaker, twm or gnome...but tend to get annoyed at all the Krap
[02:57] <alan_m> kumarphilly, i am..right now.
[02:57] <MeatGrinder> Khajav1, reconstructor is not in Synaptic :(
[02:57] <DariusTheoNoir> I use it
[02:57] <Scunizi> kumarphilly, yep
[02:57] <billy> now wuts the difference between xclient and gnome.. its the same thing as far as when i change session the same thing ends up comin up
[02:57] <Khajav1> MeatGrinder: warring: it does not backup your personal data from /home
[02:57] <kumarphilly> alan_m, maybe I should ask in #xchat but how do I get time stamps
[02:57] <balthazarguy> Hey guys, I need some help, someone on here earlier gave m ea guide for Nvidia driver installation.. it didn't work..
[02:57] <DariusTheoNoir> xchat = simple...easy...no frills
[02:57] <MeatGrinder> Khajav1, ok
[02:57] <Scunizi> billy, you mean xfce4?  as in xubuntu
[02:57] <pen> custom columns in nautilus? is it possible?
[02:58] <Khajav1> MeatGrinder: active your univese repository
[02:58] <billy> Scunizi: no.. xclient..
[02:58] <deniz__> how do you make automatic numbering of pages in openoffice.org writer?
[02:58] <balthazarguy> Anyone be abel to help me?
[02:58] <billy> Scunizi: when you go to options at the login screen and click change session, theres xclient, gnome, and KDE
[02:58] <MeatGrinder> Khajav1, ok
[02:58] <Scunizi> billy.. x is your screen. there are x programs that run in a terminal.. like xclock
[02:58] <iNoob> Ok.. i did something and now my window manager is gone.. does anyone know what i can do to get it back?
[02:58] <alan_m> kumarphilly, im not sure, id have to figure that out myself because timestamps are off for me.
[02:59] <billy> Scunizi: kinda gotcha lol
[02:59] <kumarphilly> alan_m, yah its driving me nuts now!
[02:59] <MeatGrinder> Khajav1, hmm, universe is activated in Synaptic yet I still can't find it
[02:59] <Khajav1> MeatGrinder: another alternate is remastersys. you can find it from mint repository
[02:59] <Scunizi> billy, x is not a windows manager.. gnome, kde, xfce4, enlightenment, those are windows managers.
[03:00] <DariusTheoNoir> and of course...there's always ion
[03:00] <MeatGrinder> Khajav1, ok i'll try and find that and add it manually
[03:00] <billy> Scunizi: oh okay.. yeah i kinda got it now lol
[03:00] <iNoob> Scunizi, gnome, kde, xfce4, enlightenment are not window managers... emerald, gtk, etc are
[03:00] <kumarphilly> anyone wondering its /set stamp_text on
[03:00] <kumarphilly> test
[03:00] <Khajav1> MeatGrinder: ok, have a good time. bye
[03:00] <kumarphilly> uh oh
[03:00] <MeatGrinder> Khajav1,  thanks! :)
[03:00] <Scunizi> iNoob.. true.. but he got the meaning.
[03:00] <kumarphilly> there we go
[03:00] <iNoob> yeah haha
[03:00] <kumarphilly> now thats what I call IRC
[03:00] <iNoob> Ok.. i did something and now my window manager is gone.. does anyone know what i can do to get it back?
[03:01] <iNoob> and by gone i mean.. not working haha
[03:01] <cookiemonster078> inoob, try metacity --replace in term
[03:01] <iNoob> cookiemonster078, that works, however it messes up compiz
[03:02] <Johnson_> hey, i want to open a network file thats in a folder that I ssh into, on my computers vim, how would i do that,
[03:02] <Gilou> Johnson_> sshfs ?
[03:02] <cookiemonster078> about that dvd issue?? any suggestions
[03:03] <billy> what are some other x programs?
[03:03] <billy> like xclock?
[03:04] <alabamahit> hello
[03:04] <ssorel> phist it
[03:04] <ej> how do i see a list of all incoming connection tries on a interface, i tried arp -a but that not showing what i expected
[03:04] <genii> billy: There's an extremely long list of x<programname here>
[03:04] <Gilou> ej> "tries" ?
[03:04] <koolkat> hi
[03:04] <billy> genii: where do i find that list?
[03:04] <iNoob> soo.. anyone?
[03:04] <Gilou> ej> you want to use netstat probably
[03:05] <Gilou> but if you want to really know what's going on, tcpdump is your friend
[03:05] <ej> oh yes netstat i didnt remember that one lol
[03:05] <Gilou> of wireshark
[03:05] <Gilou> for the GUI
[03:05] <Gilou> :)
[03:05] <Johnson_> Gilou, so instead of ssh-ing or tunneling into the folder I should sshfs?
[03:05] <FloodBot2> Gilou: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:05] <ej> i think wireshark would be best
[03:05] <koolkat> do they make shockwave for linux?
[03:05] <ej> itsa an incarnation of ethereal right?
[03:05] <Gilou> Johnson_> if you prefer to have it mounted locally yeah..
[03:05] <Gilou> ej> it's ethereal :)
[03:06] <AlabamaHit> Hi, there everyone :0
[03:06] <AlabamaHit> This is my first trip with linux :/
[03:06] <lindzeyn> arp -a
[03:06] <lindzeyn> mb
[03:06] <ej> i actually dont have gui access to the system i'm trying to troubleshoot
[03:06] <Gilou> ah, well tcpdump then
[03:06] <ChaosTheory> So here are the instructions I am following -- they come from the ndiswrapper file itself (INSTALL): http://pastebin.com/m79748fda
[03:06] <zcat[1]> koolkat: you can run windows firefox in wine and install the windows shockwave plugin I think
[03:07] <turdega> Is anyone else getting no covers found from Exaile audio player??
[03:07] <ChaosTheory> I can do make uninstall, but make gives me this: http://pastebin.com/m2d2f4f12
[03:07] <ej> i used to have ssh access and gui access thru NX server but of late i'm unable to connect with either method
[03:07] <ChaosTheory> Anyone know what I'm doing wrong? =\
[03:07] <LoLeN> how can i turn on a pc from the network?
[03:07] <koolkat> zcat[1], so, i guessing they dont
[03:07] <Gilou> ChaosTheory> you lack development libraries here
[03:07] <koolkat> make it for windows
[03:07] <ChaosTheory> Gilou: How do I install them?
[03:07] <koolkat> i mean linux
[03:07] <Gilou> try something like apt-get build-dep ndiswrapper
[03:08] <lihux> 这里支持中文吗?
[03:08] <dek> I have some text in shell that is like ":s:TEXT", with what command can I remove ":s:" so as to get only TEXT?
[03:08] <ej> the thing is that i can only connect via ssh or nx server if i'm connected to the local network
[03:08] <ChaosTheory> It's asking me if another process is using it. . .
[03:08] <ej> or if i'm on the same ip range
[03:08] <ChaosTheory> Unable to lock the administration directory.
[03:08] <Gilou> dek> cut -d: -f3
[03:09] <Johnson_> Gilou, hmm this seems like ubuntu has this functionality built in, where I can mount a network location onto my desktop. this is similar no?
[03:09] <dek> Gilou: and if it had no delimiter : and ":s:" was another string like "abbc" ?
[03:09] <Trikdo> question... if i install the 8.04 beta, will i have to reinstall ubuntu when the final release comes, or can i just update to it?
[03:09] <Gilou> Johnson_> I don't think gnome vfs has support for sshfs, it's a fuse feature
[03:09] <ChaosTheory> Gilou: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:09] <ChaosTheory> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:09] <rycole> hey guys, i'm about to grab apache, and i see apache2.2-common listed in apt-cache... is this the webserver, or something for it? i'm not sure what the '-common' suffix means.
[03:09] <rshives> What is the fuse group, and what is it for?
[03:09] <Gilou> dek> you'd have to use sed
[03:09] <ChaosTheory> Gilou: That's the result of sudo apt-get build-dep ndiswrapper.
[03:09] <Gilou> or awk
[03:09] <Gilou> ChaosTheory> sudo ...
[03:10] <Gilou> or
[03:10] <Gilou> ah
[03:10] <Gilou> sorry, didn't read properly...
[03:10] <Gilou> ChaosTheory> you already have an instance of the package manager running in a way somewhere else
[03:10] <ChaosTheory> Gilou: How do I close it?
[03:10] <Gilou> update-manager or synaptic
[03:10] <ChaosTheory> Gilou: I don't have either open on the panel. . .
[03:10] <Gilou> see that cross at the top, on the right? ;)
[03:10] <dek> Gilou: thanks
[03:11] <balthazarguy> Hey guys, can someone help me with a Nvidia problem in Ubuntu 7.10 Gutsy?
[03:11] <Trikdo> whats your nvidia problem in gutsy?
[03:11] <ChaosTheory> Gilou: I don't have either open? I have: Firefox, terminal, this, and "INSTALL" in gedit.
[03:11] <rycole> er, 'apt-get install' tells me "Module alias installed; run /etc/init.d/apache2 force-reload to enable.
[03:12] <genii> billy: I'm not sure any comprehensive list of X<appname> exists that I can find.
[03:12] <rycole> how do i force-reload?
[03:12] <Gilou> rycole> /etc/init.d/apache2 force-reload as told?
[03:12] <balthazarguy> Trikdo: Installing the drivers.. someone earlier told me to use http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368&highlight=latest+nvidia+drives guide.. but I got stopped about halfway through, I don't know why it's not taking the command..
[03:12] <talcite_> hey guys, did you hear? firestarter's in trouble
[03:12] <Gilou> ChaosTheory> well, do something like lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[03:12] <rycole> ah, guess i comprehended that wrong. :P
[03:12] <genii> rycole: eg: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 force-reload
[03:12] <Gilou> to see what's happening
[03:12] <talcite_> their upstream maintainer went kapoot
[03:12] <balthazarguy>  sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-7667-pkg2.run I get to here, and it says it can't open the file.
[03:13] <ChaosTheory> Gilou: I did that and I ran apt-get again and I got the same thing.
[03:13] <balthazarguy> I'm assuming it means it can't find it because I typed in random gibberish and it said it couldn't find it.
[03:13] <xb3rt> Does anyone here successfully use second life on linux?
[03:13]  * kumarphilly is away: Umm Ping if urgent and ill see when i come back
[03:13]  * kumarphilly is back (gone 00:00:02)
[03:14]  * kumarphilly is away: Umm Ping if urgent and ill see when i come back
[03:14]  * kumarphilly is back (gone 00:00:02)
[03:14] <Gilou> ChaosTheory> lsof will just tell you if an app is using that file
[03:15] <Gilou> thus locking dpkg
[03:15] <ChaosTheory> Gilou: That command gave no output.
[03:15] <Gilou> what about ps aux | grep dpkg ?
[03:15] <ChaosTheory> Gilou: owner     8648  0.0  0.0   2976   760 pts/2    S+   22:15   0:00 grep dpkg
[03:15] <owen1> apt-get install mono can't find it.. any ideas?
[03:15] <rycole> weird, now apache is telling me "No apache MPM package installed." Any ideas?
[03:15] <Gilou> what does ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/lock spit ChaosTheory ?
[03:16] <Gilou> owen1> yeah, not using it :)
[03:16] <stercor> How do I get Ubuntu out of 'Hibernate' without resetting the uptime?
[03:16] <stercor> How do I get Ubuntu to "hibernate" and not reset the uptime?
[03:16] <ChaosTheory> Gilou: -rw-r----- 1 root root 0 2008-04-02 22:12 /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[03:16] <owen1> Gilou: where can i get mono?
[03:16] <Gilou> ChaosTheory> did you kill your update manager or something like that?
[03:16] <Teoz> is there any reason that after insalling ssh and telling ssh to listen to another port (other than default 22), I should also make modifications to Ubuntu firewall ? all this lan context
[03:16] <stercor> kiss a lot of girls???
[03:16] <ChaosTheory> Gilou: I'm  not sure. How do I kill it?
[03:16] <Gilou> ChaosTheory> well, if you don't know, you probably didn't
[03:16] <Gilou> try removing the file ChaosTheory
[03:17] <klick> Hello everyone...HAL failed to initilize.
[03:17] <ChaosTheory> Gilou: I had the update manager running some time ago.
[03:17] <owen1> what mono version do i need for paint.net ?
[03:17] <ChaosTheory> Gilou: Removing which file?
[03:17] <Gilou>  /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[03:17] <AndrewB> ChaosTheory: make sure you don't have Add/Remove or any other package manager running. and that you are running as root [sudo]
[03:17] <MeatGrinder> I'm looking for solutions for full system backup, preferably making images like acronis trueimage in windows
[03:17] <ChaosTheory> AndrewB: I don't have anything running (from what I can tell on the panel).
[03:18] <zcat[1]> MeatGrinder: partimage ?
[03:18] <ChaosTheory> AndrewB: I mean, anything like Synaptic or Add/Remove.
[03:18] <xb3rt> Any linux second life users here?
[03:18] <klick> what is hal?
[03:18] <balthazarguy> Trikdo: Still there?
[03:18] <AndrewB> ChaosTheory: and what about update too actually?
[03:18] <Archaemic> Hey, this probably isn't the best place to ask, but whenever I undock my Sony Vaio SZ 140P, the ethernet device disappears and won't come back when I redock until I reboot. I've tried various things to see if I can fix this, but nothing has worked.
[03:18] <MeatGrinder> zcat[1], thanks ill ck it out
[03:18] <ChaosTheory> AndrewB: It's not on the panel. . .
[03:18] <AndrewB> Hm ok
[03:19] <Scunizi> owen1, why paint.net.. what's so needed about it?
[03:19] <balthazarguy> Can anyone help me with an Nvidia problem please?
[03:19] <owen1> Scunizi: because it's a great app. easier than photoshop and gimp.
[03:19] <AndrewB> balthazarguy: it is normally better to just ask the question. :)
[03:20] <ChaosTheory> AndrewB: Any ideas?
[03:20] <Scunizi> owen1, have you tried krita?
[03:20] <balthazarguy> Andrewb: Hehe, aiight.
[03:20] <owen1> Scunizi: no..but i will right now!
[03:20] <Scunizi> owen1, it's in the repos.. but here's info http://koffice.org/krita/
[03:21] <balthazarguy> I need to install Nvidia drivers... someone earlier told me to use http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368&highlight=latest+nvidia+drives guide.. but I got stopped about halfway through, I don't know why it's not taking the command..  I tested some random gibberish just to see.. and it gave me the same error (Can't open the file) so I'm assuming it means it can't find it.
[03:21] <balthazarguy> Sorry, the  sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7667-pkg2.run command.
[03:21] <balthazarguy> Says it's can't open the file.
[03:21] <PiousMinion> If I somehow deleted my xorg.conf, what would be the ubuntu(easy) way of recreating it?
[03:22] <powder^> omg, now.. I have to see if ATI9600 works in ubuntu
[03:22] <nickrud> owen1 according to http://code.google.com/p/paint-mono/ you need to use the unreleased developement version of mono
[03:22] <owen1> nickrud: ok..
[03:23] <AndrewB> ChaosTheory: a restart may solve it?
[03:23] <Scunizi> powder^, it does..
[03:23] <balthazarguy> .. Anyone able to help? If I can't fix this problem I'll have to go back to windows :/
[03:23] <ChaosTheory> Okay, I'll try that.
[03:23] <AndrewB> balthazarguy: try  sudo chmod +x ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7667-pkg2.run
[03:23] <nickrud> PiousMinion   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg
[03:23] <balthazarguy> Do I type it in exactly like that?
[03:23] <jrib> balthazarguy: the recommended way to install the nvidia drivers is to use the Restricted Driver Manager
[03:23] <Scunizi> balthazarguy, maybe  sh ./<filename>
[03:23] <AndrewB> balthazarguy: sure
[03:23] <PiousMinion> I'd hate to have to completely reinstall ubuntu to recreate my xorg.conf.
[03:24] <nickrud> PiousMinion did you see my last, above?
[03:24] <balthazarguy> How do I do the whole file thing.. never done paths in linux.. would it be... /home/<username>/<file>?
[03:24] <Scunizi> yes
[03:24] <PiousMinion> nickrud: actually, I missed that, but I see it now. thanks
[03:24] <balthazarguy> Hrmm..
[03:24] <owen1> Scunizi: i am trying it now. stay here if u want my opinion.
[03:24] <Scunizi> balthazarguy, or cd /home/username then the simple command to run
[03:25] <MeatGrinder> can one unmount / while in ubuntu? It seems I can't use partimage without unmounting partitions which makes sense to me
[03:25] <Scunizi> owen1, ok
[03:25] <AndrewB> MeatGrinder: no, best run from a live cd
[03:25] <MeatGrinder> ah yes, very good thank you andrewB
[03:25] <balthazarguy> Scunizi: Command to run?
[03:25] <balthazarguy> I've only been at this a little while.. I just barely got the internet up after 2 days of trying to get it up.
[03:26] <Scunizi> MeatGrinder, if you're using the partimage cd and boot to it.. it works.. you can't unmount / while you're in ubuntu because you would then not be using it.
[03:26] <balthazarguy> Have no clue what the command ot run is.
[03:26] <balthazarguy> to*
[03:26] <Scunizi> balthazarguy, sudo sh etc.. etc.. etc..
[03:26] <balthazarguy> Kk..
[03:26] <ChaosTheory> AndrewB: What's the command to install the library again?
[03:26] <AndrewB> ChaosTheory: what do you mean?
[03:26] <ChaosTheory> AndrewB: ndiswrapper
[03:27] <balthazarguy> So... cd/home/username sudo sh <driver>?
[03:27] <ChaosTheory> Gilou: Are you here?
[03:27] <AndrewB> ChaosTheory: no idea, never had ndiswrapper
[03:27] <AndrewB> balthazarguy: there is a space after cd
[03:27] <ChaosTheory> AndrewB: Oh, okay.
[03:27] <Gilou> ChaosTheory> I am
[03:27] <Scunizi> balthazarguy,  just cd /home/username/directory of file..  if it's on the desktop it's  cd /home/username/Desktop
[03:27] <RPClancy_> Hello, all.
[03:27] <ChaosTheory> Gilou: What's the first command you told me to do again? Since I'm missing some libraries?
[03:27] <Scunizi> balthazarguy, then ls to view the files in that directory to verify you're in the right place.
[03:28] <AndrewB> Scunizi: remember ~ will take him to his user's home. It can sometimes be easier.  say  cd ~/  or cd ~/Desktop
[03:28] <balthazarguy> Scunizi/Andrew: What would be the whole string I would need to type then? I'm so confused with all the strings you guys just threw at me lol
[03:28] <DariusTheoNoir> anyone notice that removable drives only automount when fstab hasn't already reserved the device (in my case sdb1)
[03:28] <alan_m> where are we taking him guys?
[03:28] <genii> balthazarguy: I think your problem stems from the fact the file referred to is no longer called NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7667-pkg2.run since there was a new release
[03:29] <Scunizi> AndrewB, true.. but I've tried that in creating links while building a menu launcher and it balked at it.. I had to do the full path... either way in this case.
[03:29] <DariusTheoNoir> well...in general I have noticed a lot of automounting issues
[03:29] <balthazarguy> Genii: I just DLd it today.
[03:29] <geZe> balthazarguy, where did you actually save the file?
[03:29] <balthazarguy> Genii: I actually renamed it and was using the new name.
[03:29] <alteregoa> high
[03:29] <balthazarguy> Umm, i have it at..
[03:29] <alteregoa> heh i got a problem with gnome-keyring-manager
[03:29] <alan_m> Andrew, scunizi, where are we taking this guy...my next response is determined on this
[03:29] <balthazarguy> /home/username/nvidia.run
[03:29] <ChaosTheory> Gilou: ?
[03:30] <alan_m> nevermind then :)
[03:30] <alteregoa> after update a few packets there is a error with this packet, a
[03:30] <alteregoa> broken dependency or such stuff
[03:30] <balthazarguy> Alan:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368&highlight=latest+nvidia+drives      sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7667-pkg2.run command it's working.
[03:30] <Gilou> ChaosTheory> apt-get build-dep ndiswrapper
[03:30] <Scunizi> alan_m, he's at terminal and wanting to run something.. I was just "leading" him to the right location via terminal.
[03:30] <ChaosTheory> Gilou: Thanks.
[03:30] <lindzeyn> Question, do the proprietary drivers in Ubuntu get automatically updated?
[03:30] <deniz__> how do u double space in openoffice.org writer?
[03:30] <cocox_> Hi there, do you know where could i find the file where keyboard shortcuts are stored because i would like to make an script for automatic edit them...
[03:30] <geZe> alright, try "cd /home/username/" then "sudo sh ./nvidia.run"
[03:30] <genii> lindzeyn: Yes
[03:30] <lindzeyn> Good eal
[03:31] <lindzeyn> *deal
[03:31] <nickrud> lindzeyn they can, but haven't (at least for ati)
[03:31] <balthazarguy> Kk.
[03:31] <alteregoa> i used envy for that
[03:31] <alan_m> Scunizi, ah, ok, wasnt trying to step over you two, was just trying to figure out where we were going :)
[03:31] <genii> lindzeyn: Then the restricted manager asks you if you might want to use the newer one
[03:31] <lindzeyn> Cool
[03:31] <Scunizi> alan_m, no.. by all means.. help him.. I'm not very good installing nvidia binary drivers.
[03:31] <DariusTheoNoir> I almost never play around with short-cuts...because inevitably, they always collide with other more important shortcuts that I didn't think about when I created the thing
[03:31] <alteregoa> those mad stuff, i can't figure it out where to find this keyringmanager
[03:32] <alan_m> scunizi, me either :/
[03:32] <balthazarguy> hacker@hacker-desktop:~$ cd /home/hacker
[03:32] <balthazarguy> hacker@hacker-desktop:~$ sudo sh ./nvidia.run
[03:32] <balthazarguy> [sudo] password for hacker:
[03:32] <balthazarguy> sh: Can't open ./nvidia.run
[03:32] <vasyl> I was wondering if Ubuntu can now read/write on ntfs partitions, or is it read-only?
[03:32] <FloodBot2> balthazarguy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:32] <alan_m> scunizi, was just wondering what was up with what was going on
[03:32] <balthazarguy> Sorry, didn't know it would flood so much.
[03:32] <ChaosTheory> Gilou: E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_gutsy_universe_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)
[03:32] <AndrewB> balthazarguy: try   sudo chmod +x ./nvidia.run
[03:32] <solexious> [QHi all, im looking for a linux equivelent of netstumbler. I need to audit wifi signals, how many, what channels, how strong etc, i dont need to use it for gaining acsess to networks, just looking. Any ideas?
[03:32] <Scunizi> alan_m, he's trying to get his video card working.. not sure what he has other than nvidia..
[03:32] <alan_m> Andrewb, yeah that was gonna be my suggestion.
[03:32] <AndrewB> balthazarguy: then try    sudo sh ./nvidia.run
[03:33] <Scunizi> !nvidia
[03:33] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:33] <balthazarguy>  http://pastebin.ca/968526 the exact stuff I typed.
[03:33] <jrib> deniz__: format -> Paragraph
[03:33] <bazhang> vasyl: it does it all
[03:33] <Gilou> ChaosTheory> sudo apt-get update ?
[03:33] <deniz__> jrib, thx
[03:33] <vasyl> bazhang: cool thanks :D
[03:34] <ChaosTheory> Gilou: Okay, done.
[03:34] <DariusTheoNoir> read/write ntfs? ... ntfs-3g
[03:34] <DariusTheoNoir> that's the tool
[03:34] <DariusTheoNoir> works for me
[03:34] <DariusTheoNoir> never had problems
[03:34] <carlzenox> anyone know a good website scanner?
[03:34] <ChaosTheory> Gilou: It is asking for my CD now.
[03:34] <ChaosTheory> Gilou: Can't I get it from the internet?
[03:34] <Gilou> ChaosTheory> put it in, or configure your apt source files...
[03:34] <Gilou> read docs
[03:34] <Scunizi> carlzenox, you mean for seo data?
[03:35] <balthazarguy> Scu: the restricted driver manager isn't working, says i have to have nvidia-glx-new installed.
[03:35] <rycole> does anyone know why apache modules are named modname.load, as opposed to the default modname.so /
[03:35] <Gilou> you're being... tiring :)
[03:35] <rycole> on ubuntu.
[03:35] <DariusTheoNoir> uh oh...someones installing glx....whew!
[03:35] <Scunizi> balthazarguy, install it from synaptic.. system/administration/synaptic
[03:35] <ChaosTheory> Gilou: Okay, nevermind, I found my CD.
[03:35] <code_kill> i got a issue with vnc and router. can somone help me out real quick?
[03:35] <Gilou> rycole> these are only configuration file
[03:35] <Gilou> asking to load the .so modules
[03:36] <ChaosTheory> Gilou: Okay, it seems to have worked?
[03:36] <Scunizi> code_kill, you mean getting into a pc on your lan from outside? some ISP's block the standard ports.. but not usually..
[03:36] <Gilou> I wouldn't know?
[03:36] <rycole> oh, so where do the .so modules reside ?
[03:36] <balthazarguy> Scun: How do I tell it where to search for my file then?
[03:36] <Gilou> rycole> read the content of the .load file
[03:36] <Gilou> it will lead you to the truth
[03:36] <genii> code_kill: ports 5800 or 5801 and 5900 or 5901 normally
[03:36] <rycole> ah, haha.
[03:36] <Scunizi> balthazarguy, once in synaptic.. hit the search button and type in nvidia
[03:36] <nickrud> balthazarguy a rule of thumb:  if something in ubuntu says <something> needs to be installed,   system->admin->synaptic  , ctl-f (find)  and search for <something>
[03:36] <Kickboy> Hey all! I've been running the Hardy beta for a couple weeks now, and everything has been pretty smooth so far. Until I updated my packages a few days ago: Now compiz-fusion won't work, and can't find any debug information that could tell me why. When I try to enable "Extra" effects in "Appearance" I get the message "Desktop effects could not be enabled". Kinda stuck as to what to do from here. Anybody got suggestions?
[03:36] <code_kill> well, it's notwhat ose one private ip at a time.?, where i allow exceptions, i can only chois my ip blocked, but under applications
[03:37] <ChaosTheory> Gilou: Yes! "make" works now!
[03:37] <balthazarguy> Nick: Synaptic doesn't have it.
[03:37] <Scunizi> Kickboy, join #ubuntu+1
[03:37] <balthazarguy> Otherwise I would have been done long ago :P
[03:37] <AndrewB> !hardy > Kickboy (please see pm)
[03:37] <nickrud> balthazarguy doesn't have nvidia-glx-new?
[03:37] <DariusTheoNoir> kickboy...compiz worked for gutsy?
[03:37] <Synclair> hey there
[03:37] <code_kill> when i try to add two like.....101 and 107, it doesnt let me due to having to input two seperate times tyhe vnc application.
[03:37] <Scunizi> balthazarguy, it does
[03:37] <code_kill> was that clear?
[03:37] <Kickboy> ah ok, thanks Scunizi
[03:37] <nickrud> !gutsysources | balthazarguy (do this, then check again)
[03:37] <ubotu> balthazarguy (do this, then check again): gutsysources is in System->Admin->Software Sources, enable (main) (universe) (restricted) and (multiverse) and disable the Cdrom on the Ubuntu Software tab. On the Updates tab, enable (gutsy-security) and (gutsy-updates).
[03:37] <Synclair> does anybody have a Creative Zen V
[03:37] <Synclair> ?
[03:37] <Kickboy> DariusTheoNoir: Yes it did
[03:38] <DariusTheoNoir> ah...bug it
[03:38] <Kickboy> DariusTheoNoir: and it worked on hardy a couple days ago
[03:38] <code_kill> basically, i can get it to work from outside my network, but only can specify one host at a time.
[03:38] <solexious> [Q] Hi all, im looking for a ubuntu equivelent of netstumbler. I need to audit wifi signals, how many, what channels, how strong etc, i dont need to use it for gaining acsess to networks, just looking. Any ideas?
[03:38] <code_kill> so if i want to chack all my machines, i have to coinfigure the routers ip forward everytime
[03:38] <DariusTheoNoir> I guess that's why its still beta
[03:38] <Synclair> I need to use my Creative Zen V
[03:38] <Synclair> can somebody help me?
[03:38] <cocox_> Hi there, do you know where could i find the file where keyboard shortcuts are stored because i would like to make an script for automatic edit them...
[03:38] <nickrud> !components | balthazarguy The first thing you need to learn about ubuntu is how software packages are organized and available. These links will give you a good overview.
[03:38] <ubotu> balthazarguy The first thing you need to learn about ubuntu is how software packages are organized and available. These links will give you a good overview.: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[03:38] <Synclair> I managed to install gonmad2, libmtp and libnjb
[03:38] <Synclair> but it won't recognize my device
[03:39] <Synclair> and if I do lsusb it appears
[03:39] <Scunizi> code_kill, for several machines you'll need to set different ports for each one.
[03:39] <DariusTheoNoir> yeah, don't compile you own stuff if you got better alternatives in the package repo
[03:39] <code_kill> i thought vnc had to use 5900?
[03:39] <balthazarguy> Ok lemme try again..
[03:39] <Scunizi> code_kill, nope that's just the default
[03:39] <PiousMinion> 5900+n where n = the screen number.
[03:39] <code_kill> but also, i have to specify everytime the application, so i can only put vnc in once.
[03:40] <kindofabuzz> solexious: Kismet
[03:40] <solexious> kindofbuzz: thank you :)
[03:40] <code_kill> when i try a second forward with different address, it wont let me call another forward using same servioce?
[03:40] <Scunizi> PiousMinion, he's trying to access several different machines on his lan from outside..
[03:40] <genii> PiousMinion: Yes, the xterm :x + 5800 or 5900
[03:40] <ChaosTheory> Gilou: Okay, everything works now except "modprobe ndiswrapper"
[03:40] <code_kill> yep
[03:40] <Gilou> that's a problem lol :)
[03:40] <code_kill> scunizi
[03:41] <nickrud> cocox_ they're kinda scattered ...
[03:41] <Scunizi> code_kill, maybe not at the same time. but I never tried multiple instances of vnc with different port numbers.
[03:41] <code_kill> i have a linksys
[03:41] <balthazarguy> Chaos: trying to get Ndiswrapper to work?
[03:41] <ChaosTheory> Gilou: FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/ubuntu/misc/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko': No such file or directory
[03:41] <ChaosTheory> Balthazarguy: Yes.
[03:41] <balthazarguy> Chaos: I had the same trouble, here is what you need.
[03:41] <balthazarguy> Chaos: Download Ndisgtk
[03:41] <balthazarguy> And install that.
[03:41] <code_kill> for example   (service) - (port) - address
[03:41] <balthazarguy> Then try and use Ndiswrapper
[03:41] <code_kill> i cant do this....
[03:41] <Scunizi> code_kill, not sure what you mean..
[03:41] <code_kill> vnc 5900 192.168.1.100 and
[03:42] <code_kill> vnc 5900 192.168.1.106
[03:42] <code_kill> at the same time
[03:42] <RPClancy_> I am a new linux user, Which Distro would be best for me?
[03:42] <code_kill> only one forward rule with vnc at a time.  it's fucking nnoying
[03:42] <code_kill> ubuntu
[03:42] <kindofabuzz> RPClancy_: Ubuntu!
[03:42] <code_kill> or a redhat
[03:42] <jrib> RPClancy_: ubuntu is a great distro for beginners, but of course you are asking in #ubuntu
[03:42] <kindofabuzz> no redhat
[03:42] <code_kill> but i sujjest learning some frebsd
[03:42] <Scunizi> code_kill, the machine accepting the connection from outside has to have a unique port.. then in the router you have to build a port forwarding sceme for each meachine.
[03:42] <nickrud> !language | code_kill
[03:42] <ubotu> code_kill: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[03:42] <ChaosTheory> balthazarguy: I think I'm almost finished with the installation. . .
[03:43] <Gilou> ChaosTheory> you didn't do "sudo make install"
[03:43] <Gilou> probably
[03:43] <kindofabuzz> you want easiest, get a debain, like ubuntu
[03:43] <ChaosTheory> balthazar: All that needs to work is "modprobe ndiswrapper."
[03:43] <balthazarguy> Chaos: Installation of..?
[03:43] <code_kill> oh sorry
[03:43] <nickrud> code_kill and please, less of the enters, it scrolls the channel overmuch
[03:43] <Scunizi> !who | code_kill
[03:43] <ubotu> code_kill: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[03:43] <cocox_> nickrud, ooh i though there was a file to modify
[03:43] <code_kill> i apologize
[03:43] <code_kill> sorry
[03:43] <RPClancy_> Ok, well, im in Ubuntu right now, and I don't like it.
[03:43] <Khajavi> how can I install codeblock?  dpkg -i libcodeblocks0_8.02-0ubuntu1_i386.deb >>  libcodeblocks0 depends on libwxgtk2.8-0 (>= 2.8.7);
[03:43] <genii> code_kill: If you have 2 internal machines accepting on 5900 then map 5901 to second machines 5900 from the router side
[03:43] <code_kill> !who | codekill ?
[03:43] <ubotu> codekill ?: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[03:43] <nickrud> cocox_ there's ways to do it, depending on what you intend to alter
[03:43] <[_`]mewok> ubotu : Don't repeat unneccesary messages.
[03:43] <balthazarguy> !!!! Nvidia installed!!
[03:43] <Scunizi> code_kill, works good :)
[03:43] <balthazarguy> Thanks guys :D
[03:43] <ChaosTheory> GIlou: Oops. =d
[03:44] <RPClancy_> Also, an important note, is that Im going to have to do some customizing to get everything on this computer working properly, so i want one that's easy to get support for
[03:44] <balthazarguy> Brb, gonna restart.
[03:44] <Scunizi> balthazarguy, two days of searching and viola!  welcome
[03:44] <Gilou> RPClancy_> call Cannonical :p
[03:44] <ChaosTheory> Gilou: Yes! It works!
[03:44] <PiousMinion> My X session is dying when I login and I get a gui message saying the session lasted less than 10 seconds. I see a lot of "I830 Vblank Pipe Setup Failed 0".  My Xorg log can be found at http://pastebin.ca/968531 if anyone is kind enough to take a look for me.
[03:44] <Synclair> can someone help me?
[03:44] <balthazarguy> Scun: No, two days was just to get the internet up lolz, I only been at the Nvidia for a few hours.
[03:44] <code_kill> see i can set seperate ports.. but when i have to choose for each compuet vnc service....it says, "application already in use..choose another"  or somthing
[03:44] <justjaden> I'm getting an error when I start up. "Gnome-Daemon-Settings" error. anyone know how to fix this problem?
[03:44] <code_kill> but let me try out somthing you just made me think about
[03:44] <code_kill> brb
[03:44] <balthazarguy> Brb, restarting.
[03:45] <code_kill> and thanks greatly for your help. one second
[03:45] <DariusTheoNoir> justjaden...I got that error a few times
[03:45] <justjaden> what did you do?
[03:45] <DariusTheoNoir> a reboot and it didn't occur again
[03:45] <DariusTheoNoir> seemed intermittent
[03:45] <code_kill> hey!
[03:45] <code_kill> thanks
[03:45] <code_kill> lol
[03:46] <Scunizi> code_kill, working now? what did you do?
[03:46] <code_kill> i can't beleive i over looked the obvious
[03:46] <justjaden> it's happening every time for me. Then trying to open a program, it says  "your system may be in an unstable state, and may need to be rebooted"
[03:46] <code_kill> two of same ports.  lol
[03:46] <code_kill> thanks alot!
[03:46] <Scunizi> sure
[03:46] <DariusTheoNoir> ah...which version are you running?
[03:46] <code_kill> This is by far the most helping and kind chat i have been in in a long time.
[03:46] <code_kill> :)
[03:46] <bazhang> Synclair: you need to ask a question first
[03:46] <Synclair> in fact, I deed
[03:46] <Synclair> did
[03:47] <Synclair> the thing is that I own a Creative Zen V
[03:47] <DariusTheoNoir> dapper, feisty, gutsy, heron, etc
[03:47] <Synclair> and I cannot make it work
[03:47] <kambei> If I wanted to issue a command upon return from "suspended" state, where would I want to put it?
[03:47] <wil> I installed something that has its files in /var/www I need to copy some files to there but I do not have the option to paste and I can not edit permissions... how do I use the GUI to copy files here? is there any way to run the GUI with sudo?
[03:47] <Scunizi> code_kill, glad to hear it.. I'll send you my bill to donate to one of my favorite charities :)
[03:47] <code_kill> yea, i use win, and redhat, but never used a debian - (ubuntu) beofre.  i'm liking it alot
[03:47] <Synclair> although I isntalled gnomad2, libmtp and libnjb
[03:47] <Synclair> I have ubuntu dapper
[03:47] <RPClancy_> Im a complete Linux noob. I am trying to get a linux install working on my Toshiba Satellite A205-S5800. Which distro do you guys reccomend, keepign in mind that I have had trouble getting wireless card and video card to work in Mandriva and Ubuntu already.
[03:47] <code_kill> it installed on my notebook very smooth, and found all drivers very smooth
[03:47] <code_kill> good things to say for ubuntu
[03:47] <Scunizi> wil, yes.. but you have to be very careful.. sudo nautilus
[03:47] <Synclair> wil, go ahead open a terminal and type sudo natilus
[03:47] <Synclair> damin
[03:47] <Scunizi> wil.. that is gksudo nautilus
[03:47] <AndrewB> RPClancy_: people have and will suggest ubuntu.
[03:47] <nickrud> wil you can use  gksudo nautilus , but it's a good idea to learn the commands
[03:48] <DariusTheoNoir> RPC - tried SUSE?
[03:48] <Khajavi> how can I install codeblock? it occur a error: dpkg -i libcodeblocks0_8.02-0ubuntu1_i386.deb >>  libcodeblocks0 depends on libwxgtk2.8-0 (>= 2.8.7);
[03:48] <RPClancy_> I have not, what is it?
[03:48] <wil> lol, so many people at once, so I wont target a name... what is the diffrence between sudo and gksudo?
[03:48] <DariusTheoNoir> gksudo is for gui
[03:48] <genii> !gksudo
[03:48] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[03:48] <Scunizi> wil, when running a graphical program as root use gksudo
[03:48] <DariusTheoNoir> so that you can run a nautilus browser as root
[03:48] <code_kill> i never knew that. lol
[03:48] <code_kill> interesting
[03:48] <nickrud> !offtopic | DariusTheoNoir RPClancy_ this isn't the place to discuss relative merits of distos, #ubuntu-offtopic is available
[03:48] <ubotu> DariusTheoNoir RPClancy_ this isn't the place to discuss relative merits of distos, #ubuntu-offtopic is available: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:48] <code_kill> i always just stayed in command
[03:48] <DariusTheoNoir> instead of CLI
[03:48] <wil> thanks
[03:48] <Co_sby> hi
[03:49] <Khajavi> how can I install codeblock? it occur a error: dpkg -i libcodeblocks0_8.02-0ubuntu1_i386.deb >>  libcodeblocks0 depends on libwxgtk2.8-0 (>= 2.8.7);
[03:49] <RPClancy_> ....
[03:49] <nickrud> wil gksudo sets up the environment so you can safely use a gui app, sudo doesn't, it's meant for the command line
[03:49] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=616952 only semi-useful thing I could find Synclair
[03:49] <code_kill> also. how do i get into iptables in ubuntu?
[03:49] <code_kill> in the gui also if possible?
[03:49] <AndrewB> Khajavi: try sudo apt-get install libwxgtk2.4-dev
[03:49] <wil> Scunizi, Synclair, nickrud, thanks very much, its all working!
[03:49] <nickrud> code_kill install   firestarter
[03:50] <balthazarguy> Ok... Nvidia drivers working now.. but now how do I get a higher screen rosolution.. it still won't let me choose other than the defualt one..
[03:50] <code_kill> you guys are awsome. so many chats these days are just junk.  but i will for sure come back to this one.
[03:50] <code_kill> firestarter?
[03:50] <Synclair> anyone knows about libmtp and libnjb?
[03:50] <owen1> Scunizi: r u there?
[03:50] <nickrud> code_kill it's a gui iptables configurator
[03:50] <PiousMinion> I must be lagged.
[03:50] <code_kill> is it in the package manager?  or download from site?
[03:50] <Scunizi> owen1, yep
[03:50] <PiousMinion> nickrud: I use "sudo sux" to run gui apps as root.
[03:50] <Khajavi> AndrewB: ok
[03:50] <code_kill> nice.
[03:50] <code_kill> i see
[03:51] <justjaden> where can you manually open the Gnome-Settings-Daemon?
[03:51] <jrib> Synclair: you need to be more specific about what you want to do
[03:51] <bazhang> code_kill: sudo apt-get install firestarter
[03:51] <owen1> Scunizi: I tried the Krita and this is what I think...
[03:51] <nickrud> !gksudo | PiousMinion (not a good idea)
[03:51] <ubotu> PiousMinion (not a good idea): If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[03:51] <balthazarguy> andrew: Do you know how I can get it to let me get a higher screen resolution now?
[03:51] <jjt001> anyone here know of jeff waugh?
[03:51] <Synclair> I need to install my creative zen v
[03:51] <jjt001> ~~?
[03:51] <AndrewB> balthazarguy: no idea, you will need to check your display settings for that.
[03:51] <nickrud> jjt001 the garnome creator? heard of him, vaguely
[03:51] <bazhang> jjt001: how does that relate to /topic here?
[03:51] <jjt001> nickrud: yeah
[03:52] <nickrud> jjt001 but see bazhang he's right
[03:52] <jjt001> bazhang: i'm trying to get unbanned from #gnome
[03:52] <balthazarguy> I go to the resolution manager.. it only lets me use the default settings..
[03:52] <Scunizi> balthazarguy, check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions#head-edf61bdea0fd68c38cd57e42671fbcc8afcf1647
[03:52] <balthazarguy> Kk thanks.
[03:52] <owen1> Scunizi: functionality is similar to paint.net but the user experience is very complex.  for example, after entering in text, it creates new layer.  It also isnt easy to change fonts and sizes.  I also am having a hard time moving the text once it has been entered.
[03:52] <jjt001> nikrud: he banned for making some constructive criticism about his recent behaviour
[03:52] <nickrud> jjt001 he doesn't pass through here much at all (haven't seen him in years)
[03:52] <balthazarguy> Actually, it's at a lower screen resolution now than what it was before the drivers..
[03:53] <bazhang> jjt001: look at the irc channel list for something like #gnome-ops
[03:53] <jjt001> nickrud: yeah, i think he left canonical
[03:53] <jjt001> bazhang: thanks
[03:53] <Itaku> how do you do cmnd_alias's in sudoers file?
[03:53] <owen1> Scunizi: I also use the magic wond quiet a bit but can't seem to change the percentage of capture/sensitivity.
[03:53] <owen1> Scunizi: Have you ever used Paint.net?
[03:54] <xin000> So many chats. How do you who is talking to who?
[03:54] <balthazarguy> Photoshop owns.
[03:54] <Scunizi> owen1, just 'cause you're not use to it.. layers is what it's all about when creating things.. that might be some of the issues you had with gimp.. I haven't used paint.net because I'm use to gimp and paint.net is probably .net meaning even with mono installed it might not work
[03:54] <ChaosTheory> Balthazarguy: Do you have an NVIDIA video card?
[03:54] <Gilou> xin000> we don't
[03:54] <jrib> xin000: prefix what you say with the nickname of the person you are addressing
[03:54] <Gilou> we just pretend to..
[03:54] <bazhang> xin000: add their nickname by typing the first three or so letters then hitting tab key ; they will see the test highlighted
[03:54] <balthazarguy> Chaos: Yes.
[03:54] <ChaosTheory> Balthazarguy: I have the same problem (it gives me resolutions lower than I need).
[03:54] <Synclair> I need someone to help me install my creative zen v
[03:54] <code_kill> i love linux.
[03:54] <balthazarguy> Chaos: Grrr :/
[03:54] <ChaosTheory> Balthazarguy: Try installing "nvidia-glx-new"
[03:55] <Synclair> it requires libmtp, libnjb and gnomad2
[03:55] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, he just got the nvidia drivers installed and working but can't change the resolution
[03:55] <xin000> jrib: that's great. Thanks!
[03:55] <geZe> when i open tvtime via the menu a window opens and then immediately closes again, nothing else happens. Any ideas?
[03:55] <code_kill> i dont know why more don't use.
[03:55] <ptn107> does ubuntu use SSH1 or SSH2 by default?
[03:55] <code_kill> i guess just scared of command
[03:55] <owen1> Scunizi: Thanks for introducing me to Krita.  I will try to give it more time and may seem that I might enjoy it better.  thanks a lot!  Have a great night!
[03:55] <Synclair> I installed everything but my device it's not recognized
[03:55] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: Oh, I see.
[03:55] <Scunizi> owen1, no problem. see ya.
[03:55] <jrib> ptn107: there's no ssh server installed by default
[03:55] <dryder> Hi everybody - I'm in desparate need of help please - I did something stupid to my usb drive... can anybody help?
[03:55] <DariusTheoNoir> justjaden, you might have something creating a firestorm booting up (network card, etc)
[03:55] <ptn107> jrib: yeah i know in gutsy i have to manually install it, but its installed in hardy
[03:56] <ptn107> jrib: just wondering what version ubuntu uses out of the box
[03:56] <bazhang> dryder: please provide a lot more info
[03:56] <Scunizi> balthazarguy, actually here's the link.. have you looked at it yet?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:56] <dryder> Was having problems with a usb drive. Thought I had the solution and clicked the drive icon, Properties>Volume and changed Settings Mount Point, File System and Mount Options. Now I can't access it - nor can gparted. Not quite true - if I: sudo mkdir /media/sdj1
[03:56] <dryder> sudo mkdir /media/"FreeAgent Drive"
[03:56] <dryder> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdj1 /media/"FreeAgent Drive" -o rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,sync,umask=222
[03:56] <dryder> the partition mounts and I can see the contents - so can gparted. Can anybody help me undo what (I shouldn't have) done, please?
[03:56] <FloodBot2> dryder: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:56] <ChaosTheory> I need to get a Windows XP computer to use this network wirelessly.
[03:56] <DariusTheoNoir> might try 455243 in the ubuntu forum...
[03:56] <justjaden> dariustheoNoir: what do you mean? and what are my options?
[03:56] <ChaosTheory> This computer has the router (and it is running Ubuntu).
[03:56] <sweetsinse> is there a way in xfce, to get mouse drag highlighting on the desktop..  like gnome/kde/windowz
[03:56] <jrib> ptn107: read your /etc/ssh/sshd_config (2)
[03:56] <ChaosTheory> How do I do this?
[03:57] <DariusTheoNoir> well...  check this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=455243
[03:57] <balthazarguy> Scun: Sec.
[03:57] <balthazarguy> CHaos: Do what?
[03:57] <dryder> FloodBot2 - sorry
[03:57] <Malici> hello
[03:57] <ChaosTheory> Balthazar: I need to get the Win XP desktop hooked up onto this wireless network.
[03:57] <balthazarguy> Scun: Yeah I"m looking at it now.
[03:57] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, you mean that the router is plugged into the ubuntu machine? and is the router wireless?
[03:57] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: Correct.
[03:57] <DariusTheoNoir> all I know is that I booted into another window manager and then back to gnome and it fixed the problem
[03:57] <sweetsinse> are there any other app that control the root window/desktop
[03:58] <bazhang> Synclair: amarok may well support that, if ubuntuforums are to be believed
[03:58] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, ok.. access to the router's wireless function has nothing to do with ubuntu. The router is stand alone.. can you access the router's setup screen with ubuntu?
[03:58] <jrib> sweetsinse: what do you want to do exactly?
[03:58] <ptn107> jrib:   # Protocol 2,1 is commented out so im trying to figure out what the default is before i change it to just   Protocol 2
[03:58] <ThreeFingerPete> ok. i can change a kernel, but i am wondering, is it advisable to change from a 32 bit kernel to a 64 with out reinstalling?
[03:58] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: I'm not sure, do you know how?
[03:58] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: The wireless network is already set up.
[03:58] <code_kill> nice. thanks to whome ever it was, sorry can't remember (firestarter) ----- that help was quicker then google!  lol
[03:58] <sweetsinse> jrib i just want to be able to drag-select multipule item on the desktop
[03:58] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: I'm currently "directly connected" to it.
[03:59] <Synclair> well.. it doesn't
[03:59] <jrib> ptn107: mine has "Protocol 2" explicitly
[03:59] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: The Win XP desktop is going to be the client.
[03:59] <code_kill> brb all
[03:59] <Synclair> it won't recognize my device
[03:59] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=547811 Synclair
[03:59] <jrib> sweetsinse: that works by default in gnome
[03:59] <sweetsinse> yeah i know
[03:59] <justjaden> DariusTheoNoir: how did you boot to another window manager?
[03:59] <sweetsinse> but i use xfce..  i am getting my company switched over
[03:59] <ptn107> jrib: so this book im reading is correct in saying i should change it to Protocol 2 for my server
[03:59] <sweetsinse> i have all the backend stuff w3rked out, i just want to tweak the looks
[03:59] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, well... the router is connected to the cable modem or dls modem and your current desktop is wired directly to it but that doesn't mean wireless is turned on .. go to Firefox and type 192.168.0.1 into the addres bar and see what happens.
[04:00] <powder^> books about using ubuntu?  anything?
[04:00] <DariusTheoNoir> oh... I had installed fvwm and windowmaker...they show up as options in your login (if you aren't set to log in automatically)
[04:00] <balthazarguy> Brb, relogging.
[04:00] <SubOne> I tried installing Ubuntu Live CD to a usb pen drive following this: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-on-usb-bar , but it wont boot. Any ideas?
[04:00] <balthazarguy> HOpefully this fixed it.
[04:00] <bazhang> powder^: the newest and best book is front paged on slashdot right now
[04:00] <DariusTheoNoir> SubOne, does your bios support booting to USB?
[04:00] <jrib> ptn107: man sshd_config  agrees that "Protocol 2" is standard
[04:00] <Khajavi> Synclair: try to start hald service
[04:00] <SubOne> DariusTheoNoir: yes
[04:00] <powder^> bazhang k
[04:00] <SubOne> DariusTheoNoir: the bios recognizes it and it is set to boot first
[04:00] <justjaden> DariusTheNoir: I'm totally new to this, could you be a little more specific with what I could try?
[04:01] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: It's loading. . .
[04:01] <Synclair> if I edit the 45-libnjb.rules I get my device set up
[04:01] <balthazarguy> Haha, it worked.
[04:01] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: Problem loading page.
[04:01] <balthazarguy> Thanks for the link, Sun.
[04:01] <balthazarguy> Scun*
[04:01] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: No.
[04:01] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, ok.. try 192.168.1.1
[04:01] <bazhang> http://books.slashdot.org/books/08/04/02/1319237.shtml powder^
[04:01] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: It asks for a username and a password.
[04:01] <DariusTheoNoir> well...let me look it up and see what I can find...if the problem is happening every time it is probably a different issue than what I had
[04:01] <balthazarguy> Thanks for all the help guys :)
[04:01] <ChaosTheory> Balthazar: Wait!
[04:01] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, no www or anything... try hitting enter and see what happens
[04:01] <Khajavi> SubOne: does your Bios support booting usb device?
[04:02] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: 192.168.1.1 --> it asks for a username and a password
[04:02] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, if that doesn't work in password type admin
[04:02] <Scunizi> then enter
[04:02] <alteregoa> fnord
[04:02] <SubOne> Khajavi: yes and it is set to boot first and the bios recognizes the drive
[04:02] <urthmover> has anyone installed ubuntu in parallels?
[04:02] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: Doesn't work.
[04:02] <DariusTheoNoir> first of all...should probably know which version you are running, justjaden
[04:02] <sweetsinse> what apps can be used besides xfdesktop to control root window
[04:02] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, what kind of router.. make and model please
[04:02] <alteregoa> yeah in world 1
[04:03] <justjaden> 8.04
[04:03] <SubOne> I can't get it to boot from the stick in a virtual box either
[04:03] <alteregoa> i installed ubuntu in super mario world
[04:03] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: Linksys, Wireless-G 2.4GHz Broadband Router.
[04:03] <bazhang> alteregoa: this is a support channel do you have a support question?
[04:03] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, hang on while I download the manuel.
[04:03] <alteregoa> yeah
[04:03] <alteregoa> i cannot install gnome-keyring-manager
[04:03] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, is it a router and modem together?  if not it should have a model number..
[04:03] <alteregoa> after update the keyring is fnorded up
[04:04] <Synclair> look at this
[04:04] <Synclair> http://www.pastebin.ca/968549
[04:04] <jrib> justjaden: support for 8.04 is in #ubuntu+1 since it is beta
[04:04] <blbrown> off-topic; am I wrong or is google popping up a redirect for every link I click on
[04:04] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: Yes, it's a router and a modem together.
[04:04] <blbrown> redirect message
[04:04] <DariusTheoNoir> Justjaden, is your problem similar to the thread I posted earlier?
[04:04] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, k.. just a sec
[04:04] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: It's a Motorola SB4101 SURFboard Cable Modem.
[04:05] <jrib> blbrown: #ubuntu-offtopic for that please
[04:05] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, so it's not a linksys?  now I'm confused.. which one is it?
[04:05] <justjaden> DariusTheoNoir: I'm reading them now. Some are similar yes, I'll try to troubleshoot with them.
[04:05] <DariusTheoNoir> that might be a good start.
[04:05] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: Linksys is the router.
[04:05] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: The modem is Motorola.
[04:05] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: Oh, were you asking if they were both one thing?
[04:05] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: No.
[04:05] <dryder> not impatient - just unfamiliar with this - did my usb drive problem appear?
[04:05] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, ok.. did you find the model number on the back?
[04:05] <Synclair> Khajavi: look at this http://www.pastebin.ca/968549
[04:05] <justjaden> Thanks for your help.
[04:05] <DariusTheoNoir> unless you are experienced with changing window managers, I wouldn't recommend my half-witted technique
[04:05] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: For the router?
[04:05] <alteregoa> rightnosys
[04:06] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, yes
[04:06] <DariusTheoNoir> no problem - sorry I couldn't be more helpful
[04:06] <fxjr> guys....
[04:06] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: WRT54G V8
[04:06] <alteregoa> why dogs always disturb the kindergarden places
[04:06] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, just a sec
[04:06] <fxjr> did you notice that when you press ctrl + alt + pgup or down
[04:06] <bazhang> !ot | alteregoa
[04:06] <ubotu> alteregoa: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:06] <fxjr> compiz changes workspaces?
[04:06] <Khajavi> Synclair: ok
[04:06] <sweetsinse> ideas for root window managers?  besides default xfdesktop?
[04:07] <fxjr> but the problem is that this are the keyboard shortcut  to change tab in gedit
[04:07] <fxjr> s/this/these
[04:07] <fxjr> do you know how to disable that behavior from compiz?
[04:07] <DariusTheoNoir> well...what do you like, sweetsinse?  Minimalist, decorated, light, heavy...etc
[04:08] <fxjr> I didn't find anything in the compiz wall plugin to disable it.
[04:08] <jrib> fxjr: that's probably a better question for #compiz-fusion but you can probably set that in compizconfig-settings-manager
[04:08] <alteregoa> i like dadaism
[04:08] <nickrud> fxjr I use clt-alt-paggeup/down in compiz to change gedit tabs
[04:08] <bazhang> alteregoa: you have been asked before to stop
[04:08] <sweetsinse> DariusTheoNoir i just want ability to highlight multiple icons
[04:08] <fxjr> nickrud, jrib where is this shortcut set?
[04:08] <SubOne> is that really all you guys can suggest?
[04:08] <DariusTheoNoir> ah...ctrl click
[04:08] <sweetsinse> DariusTheoNoir uhhh drag highlighting?
[04:08] <fxjr> I even tried advanced search
[04:08] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, when you typed "admin" in the password field, was the user name field blank and did you use all lowercase when typing admin?
[04:08] <xipietotec> fxjr, its in compizconfig-settings-manager, and it depends on what plugins you have activated, and what keybindings they're set to.
[04:08] <two-bits> SubOne
[04:08] <sweetsinse> i cant think of a good word to describe it
[04:08] <fxjr> and couldn't find anything bind to it.
[04:09] <nickrud> fxjr it's default in my gedit, I've made no changes to those keybindings
[04:09] <SubOne> two-bits: yes?
[04:09] <Khajavi> is there any one how have motorola a1200 linux mobile?
[04:09] <fxjr> nickrud, yes. it is the default shortcut of gedit. the problem is that I want to disable in compiz
[04:09] <nickrud> fxjr erm, Ignore me for now, I'm doing this in beta
[04:09] <DariusTheoNoir> sweetsinse: which window manager do you use currently?
[04:09] <fxjr> because now I can't change tabs in gedit.
[04:09] <sweetsinse> DariusTheoNoir like what you do in thunar... you cant select more than one thing by abitrarily clicking a point and dragging
[04:09] <sweetsinse> i have compiz
[04:09] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: Yes to both.
[04:09] <sweetsinse> and emerald
[04:09] <fxjr> nickrud, beta? 8.04?
[04:10] <fxjr> I'm using 8.04 too.
[04:10] <nickrud> fxjr . Can't discuss it here ;)
[04:10] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: I just went over to the XP laptop and it says some of the internet hardware is still disconnected?
[04:10] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 please fxjr
[04:10] <fxjr> nickrud, ahhh ok. sorry for that. I didn't now.
[04:10] <DariusTheoNoir> oh...nice...the last time I installed compiz, it kept me from moving windows around and changing focus
[04:10] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, did you buy this new or is anyone else using it in the house?
[04:10] <fxjr> bazhang, thanks. I didn't even know there was this channel.
[04:10] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: I'm the host computer, and there's one other computer running Windows XP that needs to use it (client).
[04:10] <fxjr> I went here directly after installing xchat :)
[04:10] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: It's new.
[04:10] <Synclair> can someone help me with this? http://www.pastebin.ca/968549
[04:11] <fxjr> anyway it is nice to know there is this so active channel.
[04:11] <Khajavi> Synclair: hald service can recognize usb device
[04:11] <fxjr> changing to ubuntu+1 then :)
[04:11] <bazhang> fxjr: in three weeks you can come back ;]
[04:11] <Synclair> what service?
[04:11] <Synclair> how do I run it?
[04:11] <sweetsinse> DariusTheoNoir yeah i had similar problems for awhile
[04:11] <DariusTheoNoir> correct me if I am wrong, but I thought compiz and emerald were window decorators and effects--not strictly window managers.  (what I mean is KDE, Gnome, ion, fvwm, windowmaker...etc)
[04:12] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, you're not the host.. you're just plugged into it.. meaning you are also a guest of the router.. I suggest you take a look at the manuel at the section on resetting it back to normal then you should be able to get into it.. here's the manuel link.  http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_CASupport_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1166859837401&packedargs=sku%3DWRT54G&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&lid=3740137
[04:12] <Scunizi> 401B01&displaypage=download#versiondetail
[04:12] <DariusTheoNoir> oh...and xfce
[04:12] <bazhang> DariusTheoNoir: compiz is a window compositor iirc
[04:12] <DariusTheoNoir> right
[04:12] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, sorry that split. http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_CASupport_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1166859837401&packedargs=sku%3DWRT54G&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&lid=3740137401B01&displaypage=download#versiondetail
[04:12] <DariusTheoNoir> compositor...
[04:12] <DariusTheoNoir> but you've got some kind of backend...right?
[04:13] <unop> DariusTheoNoir, compiz is a "compositing window managaer" according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compiz
[04:13] <bazhang> the fallback is normally gnome's metacity
[04:13] <DariusTheoNoir> thanks unop
[04:13] <Khajavi> Synclair: please run: ls /dev/* > a then unplug usb dvice then ls /dev/* > b then diff a b
[04:13] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: Hm. . .
[04:13] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: Reset back to normal?
[04:13] <DariusTheoNoir> all I know is that it doesn't work for me...
[04:13] <sweetsinse> DariusTheoNoir what i need isnt even a WM.. that is compiz.  in xfce xfdesktop controls the background and the icons/behaviour of the "desktop".  in  gnome nautilus perfoms this function.  i want an app thats neither but both
[04:14] <DariusTheoNoir> ah...ok...now I understand what you are trying to communicate
[04:14] <nickrud> sweetsinse background setting, or icons?
[04:14] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, yes.. just in case the rom is got some bad info or it was left in a protected state from the factory.. by resetting it, it will get rid of any passwords that are on the router and the default "admin" will work to get into it.
[04:14] <DariusTheoNoir> well...have fun with that.
[04:14] <Khajavi> Synclair: report me diff a b
[04:15] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: Hm, okay. I'm going to go over to the desktop now and see if anything works.
[04:15] <fxjr> hey guys!
[04:15] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, k.. that is a good router.. I've got one.. it's based on linux
[04:15] <fxjr> thanks for your promptly responses!
[04:16] <sweetsinse> nickrud, i would like to retain ability to drag from thunar file manager onto/out of desktop, and be able to 'highlight' select more than one icon on this desktop..  like you can with gnome/kde/windowz
[04:16] <SoulBlade> hi all - i had installed mythbuntu 7.10 on an old machine.. spent some time getting my tuner to work w/ it (hauppage pvr2 usb) - i recently installed a slew of updates and now my tuner doesn't seem to work... i unfortunately had installed like 60 updates - how do you guys typically debug an issue like this - im pretty new to linux
[04:16] <bazhang> SoulBlade: have you asked in #ubuntu-mythtv
[04:17] <SoulBlade> i had to edit my grub boot params to make things work on 7.1 - there were some irq issues
[04:17] <Synclair> Khajavi: /dev/libmtp-usbdev1.4 is the one that gets disconnected
[04:17] <sCOTTo> hey does anyone have any good knowledge on networkin with windows machines? i have been having trouble from start to now.... my windows boxes can see my files but I cant see theirs... i am in a muddle...
[04:17] <SoulBlade> nope - didnt even know about it
[04:17] <SoulBlade> thanks!
[04:17] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, Actually I was wrong.. it's not based on linux.. that's the GL version
[04:17] <nickrud> sweetsinse as far as I know, there are only 4 desktop managers in the sense you mean:  gnome, kde, xfce, and cde
[04:18] <sweetsinse> have you used xfce?
[04:18] <nickrud> sweetsinse and cde is pretty brain dead, probably won't give you what you want.
[04:19] <unop> nickrud, not that i can name any off of the top of my head, but surely you discredit 20 years of unix desktop environments with that statement :)
[04:19] <nickrud> sweetsinse yes, briefly.
[04:19] <nickrud> unop true, i forget gnustep already ;)
[04:19] <Khajavi> Synclair: now sudo /etc/init.d/hal restart then sudo /init,d/hald restart then sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart
[04:19] <nickrud> unop I think I meant *in use* in any measurable fashion today
[04:20] <sweetsinse> nickrud under the desktop option.. there is a switch to 'allow xfce to manage desktop', if you flip that off it kills the desktop background and icons/etc.---but this has no effect on WM window management functions/actions.
[04:20] <unop> nickrud, i wonder what "desktop environment" i use .. i run fluxbox :)
[04:20] <nickrud> sweetsinse yes. You can do the same in gnome ;)
[04:20] <nickrud> unop you don't have one, you have a window manager :p
[04:20] <sweetsinse> yeah so arent there some alternative out there?
[04:20] <SuperSayjin> hey every 1
[04:20] <Synclair> don't have /etc/init.d/hal restart
[04:20] <sweetsinse> flux is nice
[04:20] <unop> nickrud, but i can run gnome applications on my "desktop" :)
[04:21] <sweetsinse> i like compiz though
[04:21] <code_kill> i'm back. incase anyone cares
[04:21] <code_kill> lol
[04:21] <sweetsinse> thats why i g xfce
[04:21] <MeatGrinder> why can't i rename a flash drive in nautilus? It lets me select rename and type a new name but then gives me an error?
[04:21] <talcite_> does anyone here use eclipse3.2 and java 64?
[04:21] <unop> nickrud, and kde ones too .. :)
[04:21] <code_kill> had to feed the baby
[04:21] <nickrud> sweetsinse none that I know of. and unop no, you're running gnome apps in your window manager.
[04:21] <masnet08> LaCosta
[04:21] <SuperSayjin> what programs cau u use to moniter cpu temperatures?
[04:21] <alteregoa> betty waintrop might help
[04:21] <unop> nickrud, so what exactly is a desktop environment in relation to the apps that it houses, contains and manages then ?
[04:21] <bazhang> alteregoa: for the last time please stop
[04:21] <sweetsinse> i just want to get more functionality out of the desktop
[04:21] <nickrud> unop in the same way one could (if they wanted to) run metacity as a standalone window manager
[04:22] <sweetsinse> i like to dump things there etc. not just look at photo
[04:22] <nickrud> unop I think of things that actually have a desktop you can put things on
[04:22] <code_kill> does anyone here write python?
[04:22] <unop> nickrud, like what exactly?
[04:22] <nickrud> unop like nautilus in the context of gnome
[04:22] <ChaosTheory> Scuzini: Okay, can I just make a *new* network?
[04:23] <ChaosTheory> Scuzini: And won't that automatically make me the host?
[04:23] <sweetsinse> or thunar/xfdesktop to xfce
[04:23] <unop> nickrud, so if i use fluxbox and have nautilus draw a desktop, do i have a "desktop environment" ? :)
[04:23] <ChaosTheory> Scuzini: The XP computer has no "View available wireless networks" option.
[04:23] <alteregoa> i cannot install gnome-keyring-manager
[04:23] <code_kill> xp has that option
[04:23] <sweetsinse> fluxbox is a WM too
[04:24] <nickrud> unop more specifically, I'm not thinking of launchers but of folders and files. But I digress and am idiosyncratic
[04:24] <tgelter> is there some way to keep NetworkManager from connecting to a particular access point?
[04:24] <code_kill> "view available wirless networks"
[04:24] <unop> nickrud, or rather, if i use all the gnome components like the volume-manager, clipboard, gtk-theming, etc, etc .. i run them, and surely they are integral to the "gnome DE" ?
[04:24] <ChaosTheory> Scuzini: Are you there?
[04:24] <nickrud> unop sure do. You're running gnome with a replacement window manager
[04:24] <sweetsinse> im thinking about trying to hack thunar and compiz window rules into a desktop
[04:25] <code_kill> what is a good network tool similiar to "nettools" for ubuntu?
[04:25] <code_kill> if anyone knows?>
[04:25] <unop> nickrud, i'm pulling your leg .. :) i think that the definition of a DE is unclear and really is quite irrelevant to how you use and interact with the system.
[04:26] <ChaosTheory> Scuzini: Are you there?
[04:26]  * nickrud crosses fingers at unop, ambiguity is evil ;)
[04:26] <sweetsinse> desktop in the sense you can 'feel' it by dragging/dropping etc
[04:26] <bazhang> ChaosTheory: I believe his name is Scunizi
[04:27] <sweetsinse> the visible screen is a table at the root level
[04:27] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, yep
[04:27] <bazhang> tabcompletion is your friend ChaosTheory
[04:27] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, just updated my routers firmware.. you's is linux I believe..
[04:27] <SuperSayjin> for all those that run f@h join the #f@h channel for chat/advice and idoling lolz
[04:28] <bazhang> code_kill: what are you trying to accomplish
[04:28] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, now it's my turn.. are YOU there?
[04:28] <bazhang> tgelter: like the neighbor's? please specify
[04:28] <nickrud> SuperSayjin please don't use this channel for advertising others
[04:29] <tgelter> bazhang: yeah, like the neighbor's
[04:29] <bazhang> tgelter: make your own the default
[04:29] <tgelter> bazhang: the neighbors have an unsecured network that networkmanager will connect to if it can't connect to mine
[04:30] <treble54> I'm having issues using the built-in partitioning feature when installing Ubuntu 7.10
[04:30]  * nickrud wonders if he should ask unop about the difference between a desktop and a desktop environment
[04:30] <ToddEDM> hey guys , im building a PC.... what brand SATA HDD is better than the rest?
[04:30] <tgelter> bazhang: how do I specify a default?
[04:30] <treble54> I want to keep my windows installation, but I don't understand the Ubuntu Partitioning tool during the installation
[04:30] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 tgelter this is how to do it cli way--network-manager has always been flaky for me
[04:30] <nickrud> treble54 are you running vista?
[04:30] <treble54> can anyone enlighten me or point me to some reading I might look at?
[04:30] <treble54> nope, XP
[04:31] <mneptok> SuperSayjin: please do not advertise other channels in #ubuntu* channels
[04:31] <tgelter> bazhang: thanks
[04:31] <Krumar> hey, i'm trying to help a friend install gusty on his computer, it loads ok, but when we get to the partitioning section, it can't find the harddrive, we've tried putting with pci=nomsi and all-generic-ide, they didn't help any, anyone have any ideas?
[04:31] <ChaosTheory> Scuzini: Haha, sorry.
[04:31] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: Sorry, not Scuzini. -_-
[04:31] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, :)
[04:31] <mneptok> Krumar: disable the crappy software RAID in the BIOS? ;)
[04:31] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: I think I'm just going to revert to having the desktop be the "host."
[04:32] <bazhang> Krumar: set bios to ata
[04:32] <Krumar> mneptok, i don't think the bois supports raid, but i will check that out now
[04:32] <SoulBlade> i think i have a different issue... there's nothing in my /proc/bus/usb directory - ive attached the usb tuner.. will the device only be added if suitable drivers are found for it?
[04:32] <nickrud> tgelter basically you want to shrink the xp partition by pulling the right end towards the left, then tell ubuntu to use the freed up space
[04:32] <hobbzilla> Does one have to create a TAP interface to create a bridge for virtual guests for each guest?? i.e. tap0, tap1, etc..
[04:32] <Krumar> bazhang, i'll check that too
[04:32] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: Now, do you know how to fix my screen resolution? =P
[04:32] <tgelter> nickrud: I don't think that message was meant for me
[04:32] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, do you have two nic cards in the machine? one wireless and one wired?
[04:32] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi, yes.
[04:33] <nickrud> tgelter thanks,  treble54 see my last above, I addressed it to the wrong person
[04:33] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, ok. then.. screen resolution.. I'll get the link. hang on.
[04:33] <treble54> oh ok :)
[04:33] <unop> nickrud, the desktop is the area on a display's screen that the user interacts with, the desktop environment is composed of the various objects that make up the graphical interfaces (on the desktop) -- but i know you'll beg to differ :)
[04:33] <xbehave2>  does the kernel need to be outside of an lvm partition
[04:33] <arbeck> I just installed the hardy beta 64 bit, installed ubuntu-restricted-extras, but DVD's still will not play... did i miss something?
[04:33] <mneptok> xbehave2: no, but it's a danged good idea.
[04:33]  * nickrud has successfully gone fishing :)
[04:33] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi, it's an NVIDIA driver.
[04:33] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:33] <bazhang> libdvdcss2 and #ubuntu+1 please arbeck
[04:33] <mneptok> xbehave2: keeping /boot off an LVM is an extremely smart idea
[04:34] <nickrud> unop but I do agree completely with that statement
[04:34] <treble54> nickrud: ok, so of the three options, you're speaking about the option with the slider, indicating a percentage of the harddrive space
[04:34] <nickrud> treble54 yes.
[04:34] <tgelter> mneptok: until grub 2 is standard, no?
[04:34] <unop> nickrud, i can disagree with my own statement tho -- i mean, what if all that was on my desktop was a terminal-emulator? ;)
[04:35] <mneptok> tgelter: even then i wouldn't do it.
[04:35] <Krumar> bazhang, and mneptok, no raid in bios and i don't see anything that always you to set to ata
[04:35] <tgelter> mneptok: reason being?
[04:35] <nickrud> unop we gotta stop, or mneptok will pull out his version of the pointy stick
[04:35] <bazhang> haha
[04:35] <mneptok> Krumar: it's *something* about the drive controller. what make/model is it?
[04:35] <unop> :)
[04:35] <leprasmurf> hello all, is there a way to upgrade to OO 2.4 from ubuntu or do I have to uninstall from apt and install manually?
[04:36] <mneptok> tgelter: LVM calls are in the kernel. the kernel lives in boot. why would you put the only thing that can successfully mount your array *inside* the array? ;)
[04:36] <bazhang> leprasmurf: why do you wish to do so?
[04:36] <treble54> nickrud: ok, then if I put the slider at 0% (which I believe is all the way to the left), what does that tell the installation to do
[04:36] <mneptok> tgelter: that's like storing your fingers inside the telephone.
[04:36] <leprasmurf> bazhang: I am extremely frustrated with base 2.3 and wish to try 2.4 to see if any of the issues I'm having have been resolved
[04:36] <nickrud> treble54 it'll probably fail, since the shrunken space won't hold the contents of the xp partition
[04:36] <userone> I am looking for a good mp3 player, any tips?
[04:36] <xbehave2> my problem is that my /boot is only 8mb ( a problem i didnt realise till id done eerything else) so i imstalled the kernels to an lvm partion, is it possible to setup grub so it boots to the kernel in the lvm?
[04:37] <bazhang> cowon but offtopic here userone
[04:37] <mneptok> xbehave2: no
[04:37] <mneptok> xbehave2: you need lilo
[04:37] <nickrud> treble54 to be honest, I never even came close to trying that, I'm chicken
[04:37] <Newbuntu2> hello
[04:37] <tgelter> mneptok: the next version of grub knows about software raid and lvm, so it's not really an issue like you say
[04:37] <mneptok> tgelter: i'm a pessimist :)
[04:37] <userone> @ bazhang - where should I go ?
[04:37] <bazhang> leprasmurf: what issues; please specify
[04:38] <xbehave2> isnt lilo dangerous?
[04:38] <Newbuntu2> does anyone have any recommendations for webcams that work outdoors and can record at 30fps, and are not a hassle to get to work in linux?
[04:38] <leprasmurf> bazhang: it's a long list
[04:38] <bazhang> userone: cowon's home page or #ubuntu-offtopic ;]
[04:38] <tgelter> mneptok: well, ok...I guess I understand then
[04:38] <treble54> nickrud: ok let me put it in a different way: what am I indicating as I drag the slider more to the left vs. more to the right?
[04:38] <bazhang> leprasmurf: have you visited the open office irc channel?
[04:38] <mneptok> tgelter: i smell the way i do not because of poor personal hygiene, but because i've been burned so many times ;)
[04:38] <userone> @ bazhang, for players in general.
[04:38] <mneptok> (and poor personal hygiene)
[04:38] <nickrud> xbehave2 no, in fact it has a couple advantages over grub but grub has many more over lilo
[04:39] <bazhang> userone: not sure there sorry
[04:39] <tgelter> mneptok: the best way to learn! (or at least the most long-lasting)
[04:39] <xbehave2> what do i lose by using lilo, and what do i gain?
[04:39] <leprasmurf> bazhang: the jdbc connector seems to lock some of my tables as readonly despite my privilege, I can't edit labels on a wizard created form, I can't find a way to create an input mask on text fields, I can't find any type of date picker/calendar for date objects
[04:39] <userone> @ bazhang, thanks
[04:39] <nickrud> treble54 say you have one partition using the whole drive, 120gb. You move it to 50% , and the partitioner will try to shrink the partition to 60gb, leaving 60gb unallocated
[04:40] <leprasmurf> bazhang: yes, I spent most of the day lurking in there awaiting any answer, the only replies I got on there was when I was helping another user
[04:40] <bazhang> leprasmurf: thus my recommend of the open office irc channel they will be xperts at that
[04:40] <userone> best mobo for linux?
[04:40] <unop> !best | userone
[04:40] <ubotu> userone: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[04:40] <tgelter> so, I realize that this isn't the best place to ask this (point me to a good channel if you know of one)...does anyone know of a good source for good-quality A/V receivers that won't break the bank?
[04:40] <bazhang> leprasmurf: though someone really good for oO may be in here
[04:40] <leprasmurf> bazhang: have not been successful in getting any replies to any issues, nor have I had much success in google
[04:40] <nickrud> xbehave2 access to a command line to manipulate the boot is available in grub, and not in lilo. Huge advantage. Lilo doesn't depend on the bios for identifying disks and partitions, not so big an advantage with better bioses that are now in use
[04:41] <izinucs> userone, might try #hardware or #linux
[04:41] <leprasmurf> bazhang: hence I was asking the ubuntu specific question of updates outside of synaptic
[04:41] <userone> k, thanks.
[04:41] <bazhang> leprasmurf: oh I meant those specific issues
[04:41] <nickrud> treble54 but if you have more than 60gb of data on the partition, you either will fail in the resize or the data will be corrupted.
[04:42] <leprasmurf> bazhang: which I did try, wasted most of the night trying to work around these issues
[04:42] <xbehave2> ive installed my system to a lvm, how can i install lilo, and get it to boot to my system?
[04:42] <nickrud> never used lvm, sorry
[04:42] <Tu13es> can I tell my external drives to sleep when not in use?
[04:43] <MeatGrinder> why is it so difficult (impossible) to rename an NTFS usb flash drive in ubuntu?
[04:43] <MeatGrinder> why can't i rename a flash drive in nautilus? It lets me select rename and type a new name but then gives me an error?
[04:43] <xbehave2> nickrud how would i usually install lilo?
[04:43] <treble54> nickrud: ok, sorry to beat this to death, but what about if the slider is at 40% ?
[04:43] <leprasmurf> MeatGrinder: because ntfs is a closed source file system and any modifications is still in the experimental stage
[04:44] <leprasmurf> is there a way to upgrade to OO 2.4 from ubuntu or do I have to uninstall from apt and install manually?
[04:44] <unop_> Tu13es, i believe you can use hdparm to enable spindown
[04:44] <ChaosTheory> I've got all the monitor resolutions under "Modes," but it's not showing up.
[04:44] <bazhang> http://download.openoffice.org/ you can download the deb and see if that fixes things leprasmurf
[04:44] <ChaosTheory> Anyone know how to fix the monitor resolution problem? =|
[04:45] <izinucs> leprasmurf, or wait until hardy is out.. or install the beta version
[04:45] <Tu13es> unop_: hm, I'm just reading that I think
[04:45] <unop_> Tu13es, see here - http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_hdparm_to_improve_IDE_device_performance
[04:45] <ChaosTheory> FixVideoResolutionHowTo doesn't solve my problem. . .
[04:45] <nickrud> MeatGrinder https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive (works for partitions as well)
[04:45] <bazhang> ChaosTheory: how about pastebinning your xorg.conf
[04:45] <leprasmurf> bazhang: yeah, that's where I'm sitting now, the deb download claims conflicting packages with openoffice.org-bundled and refuses to install
[04:45] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: One second.
[04:45] <leprasmurf> izinucs: ty
[04:45] <nickrud> xbehave2 sudo apt-get install lilo, configure lilo.conf, and then write an mbr.
[04:46] <MeatGrinder> nickrud, I'm there and tried that, didn't work at all
[04:46] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: http://pastebin.com/d11268fce
[04:46] <nickrud> treble54 then 40% would be ntfs, and 60% unallocated
[04:46] <MeatGrinder> nickrud, worked for renaming my windows hdd but not my usb flash drives
[04:46] <nickrud> MeatGrinder were they mounted?
[04:46] <MeatGrinder> tried it mounted and unmounted
[04:47] <izinucs> leprasmurf, np. OO has agravated me as well.  espicially with some spreadsheet  functions that are easy in excel and bang your head hard in OO.. also printing envelopes is near impossible from a spreadsheet full of data
[04:47] <bazhang> ChaosTheory: you have the drivers enabled? it only shows generic nvidia card and the nv drivers in your xorg.conf
[04:47] <programador1_> hola
[04:47] <xbehave2> nickrud, only 2 problems, 1 i dont ae a working system to do that from, is lilo on the alternate install cd?, 2 i dondt know how to right a lilo.conf
[04:48] <bazhang> !es | programador1_
[04:48] <ubotu> programador1_: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[04:48] <nickrud> MeatGrinder hm, I just used the vfat today on my usb stick, don't have an ntfs one
[04:48] <programador1_> thanks
[04:48] <sCOTTo> hey does anyone have any good knowledge on networkin with windows machines? i have been having trouble from start to now.... my windows boxes can see my files but I cant see theirs... i am in a muddle...
[04:48] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: Oh, sorry. I need to enable the restricted NVIDIA driver.
[04:48] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: Okay, it installed.
[04:48] <MeatGrinder> nickrud, doh! dammit i forgot it's FAT32, let me try that
[04:48] <bazhang> ChaosTheory: that would help hehe
[04:48] <unop_> sCOTTo, what happens when you try and access the windows machines?
[04:48] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: It gives me the same resolutions.
[04:48] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: But it also says I need a system restart.
[04:48] <sCOTTo> i cant find them or browse them
[04:48] <leprasmurf> izinucs: I'm finding the same.  I could have had this form done twice over in access, but running into so many problems in OO
[04:48] <bazhang> ChaosTheory: restart first
[04:49] <sCOTTo> unop_ i cant do anything with them
[04:49] <nickrud> xbehave2 I'd suggest you use grub, as far as I know that works fine with lvm. But I've never investigated actually setting it up myself.
[04:49] <treble54> nickrud: ok so that 60% would be unallocated and then looked into for allocating space for the Ubuntu installation, correct?
[04:49] <MeatGrinder> nickrud, actually it doesn't say anything about vfat in that webpage, which command do I use in terminal... vfat or mlabel...I tried mlabel...didn't work
[04:49] <sCOTTo> unop_ im no expert with linux - I forsook Windows vista for ubuntu as a supporter of death to windows....
[04:49] <izinucs> leprasmurf, i didn't catch  the issue you were having..  form data merges I've actually managed to get done with a spreadsheet of data
[04:50] <nickrud> xbehave2 I want to mention one thing:  you have to have a separate /boot   partition with lvm as I understand it. That might be your boot problem
[04:50] <unop_> sCOTTo, ok, given that you know the name or ipaddress of one of your windows machines .. what happens when you type this into the nautilus location bar.  smb://othermachinename
[04:50] <treble54> nickrud: from listening to you, you make it sound like the slider is the user making a request at how the user wants the partitioning to behave, letting the installation program decide the specifics
[04:50] <nickrud> MeatGrinder vfat, it works on fat32
[04:50] <sCOTTo> unop_ is there a gui that will help me hook into the shares on my network?
[04:50] <izinucs> leprasmurf, is that what you're  trying to do?
[04:50] <MeatGrinder> nickrud, ok i'll read up on it
[04:50] <nickrud> treble54 yes? Isn't that how all software works?
[04:50] <xbehave2> it is but short of starting over, i cant use grub, ill look into lilo thx
[04:50] <sCOTTo> unop_ irefox ok?
[04:51] <leprasmurf> izinucs: the jdbc connector seems to lock some of my tables as readonly despite my privilege, I can't edit labels on a wizard created form, I can't find a way to create an input mask on text fields, I can't find any type of date picker/calendar for date objects
[04:51] <unop_> sCOTTo, nautilus does it - firefox no, i believe there is something else on gnome (gnome-connect-server maybe) i can't remember what exactly
[04:51] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: Awesome! It has the right resolution now.
[04:51] <bazhang> ChaosTheory: remember what you did for the future ;]
[04:51] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: But now, I can't see any of the title bars. . .
[04:51] <treble54> nickrud: I guess I have a different take on it, it seems like this slider is a little less user input and a little more input from the installation program
[04:52] <bazhang> ChaosTheory: go into ccsm and adjust that or just disable compiz altogether ;]
[04:52] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: But I don't want to disable Compiz. :(
[04:52] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: Let me redo the settings.
[04:52] <unop_> sCOTTo, anyway, we'll get to that once we have troubleshooted this? what happens when you browse to smb://   and  smb://othermachinename  ??
[04:52] <MeatGrinder> nickrud, I cannot find information in the ubuntu forums about using vfat to rename usb volumes, what is the syntax?
[04:53] <izinucs> leprasmurf, mine was simple compaired to that.  unfortunatly with no  experience with those needs I'm drawing a blank on how to help.. the OO IRC channel usually starts to pick up this time of night as most of them seem to be in a vastly different time zone.
[04:53] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: I don't even have Compiz installed! =D
[04:53] <balthazarguy> Hey all.. anyone here any good with Wine?
[04:53] <bazhang> ChaosTheory: then head over to #compiz-fusion they are the brainiacs for that ;]
[04:53] <brianw> how do I restart NetworkManager?
[04:53] <powder^> Check here if you need the alternate desktop CD. This CD does not include the Live CD, instead it uses a text-based installer.  <<< Is this download going to act like a Windows msi?
[04:53] <nickrud> treble54 you are saying how much you want to give to xp. Next step is how you want to deal with the unallocated space. There are options ranging from let the installation program deal with how big the root and swap partition are, to totally defining exactly how the partitions are laid out. This step is simply shrinking the xp partition
[04:53] <nickrud> MeatGrinder that page I gave you tells you exactly how to use mtools to do the job
[04:53] <genii> powder^: The short answer to that is No
[04:53] <bazhang> powder^: it will be text based and install only
[04:53] <amenado> leprasmurf-> what does jdbc got to do with wizard and forms?
[04:54] <fxjr> night all
[04:54] <Tu13es> unop_: do you know how to start it once I change the hdparm.conf?
[04:54] <MeatGrinder> nickrud, ok i'm confuse, I told you i used mtools and it didn't work and you said to use vfat
[04:54] <fxjr> thanks for your help.
[04:54] <balthazarguy> I have a problem with Wine, anyone here any good with Wine?
[04:54] <izinucs> ChaosTheory, Scunizi here.. this is my nick on my laptop.. install  ccsm from synaptic.. its actually called  compiz configuration setting manager.
[04:54] <leprasmurf> izinucs: ok, ty anyways.  guess I'll try them one more time before I go to the drastic measure of purging and reinstalling
[04:54] <powder^> bazhang -- what does text based.. mean.
[04:54] <leprasmurf> amenado: nothing, they are two seperate issues
[04:54] <powder^> bazhang I mean, I just got the ISO
[04:54] <izinucs> leprasmurf, good luck
[04:54] <leprasmurf> izinucs: ty
[04:54] <amenado> leprasmurf-> i thought so..
[04:54] <izinucs> np
[04:54] <bazhang> balthazarguy: if you dont get answers here check out #winehq and the appdb
[04:54] <powder^> bazhang I mean the ISO for to make a CD with
[04:54] <leprasmurf> amenado: aside from the fact that I can't add a new record via form due to the lock issue
[04:55] <bazhang> powder^: text based means no shiny menus ;]
[04:55] <ChaosTheory> izinucs: I don't see a "ccsm."
[04:55] <powder^> bazhang -- I do not want to make a CD
[04:55] <ChaosTheory> izinucs: I don't have Compiz installed.
[04:55] <unop_> Tu13es, i believe you can put the command into a machine startup script -- /etc/rc.local
[04:55] <treble54> nickrud: ok great that last bit really cleared things up :) sorry to bother you, especially since you're getting questions left and right
[04:55] <leprasmurf> amenado: but I was listing all the issues I was having with OO base
[04:55] <balthazarguy> Baz: Thanks.
[04:55] <unop_> Tu13es, the command i mean
[04:55] <Tu13es> which command?
[04:55] <amenado> leprasmurf-> jdbc connectors have settings, you can reconfigure those
[04:55] <bazhang> powder^: what do you want to do please specify
[04:55] <nickrud> treble54 no problem, the person that doesn't ask questions doesn't get the answers he needs ;)
[04:55] <unop_> Tu13es, your hdparm command
[04:55] <Tu13es> I didn't make a command, I just edited the .conf
[04:55] <powder^> bazhang -- Download make partition, and run Linux
[04:56] <leprasmurf> amenado: any recommendations on how?  I saw one command that mihgt help, but couldn't figure out where to set it
[04:56] <bazhang> powder^: without burning a cd? like using wubi? or what--please more info
[04:56] <nickrud> MeatGrinder did you get some error about mtools_skip_check?
[04:56] <MeatGrinder> nickrud, yes
[04:56] <izinucs> ChaosTheory, it's installed by default.. go to system/preferances and the option for desktop something.. can't referance right now  cause i'm on xp. in there you'll see whee to change the "amount" of effects. change  it to NONE
[04:56] <brianw> how do I restart NetworkManager? I added openvpn support to it... I just can not seem to find an init for it anywhere..
[04:56] <amenado> leprasmurf-> i dont know off hand, its been a long while since i have touched jdbc, but am sure they are there,
[04:56] <MeatGrinder> nickrud, then errors about it not being mounted when it was and vice versa
[04:56] <Newbuntu2> does anyone have any recommendations for webcams that work outdoors and can record at 30fps, and are not a hassle to get to work in linux?
[04:56] <leprasmurf> amenado: ty anyway
[04:56] <nickrud> MeatGrinder   echo mtools_skip_check=1 >> ~/.mtoolsrc , and try again
[04:57] <ChaosTheory> izinucs: But I *want* effects. =D
[04:57] <unop_> Tu13es, i'm not sure how the hdparm.conf file controls hdparm .. hmm
[04:57] <bazhang> !webcams | Newbuntu2
[04:57] <ubotu> Newbuntu2: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[04:57] <MeatGrinder> nickrud, ok lemme try that, brb
[04:57] <izinucs> ChaosTheory, first things first
[04:57] <ChaosTheory> izinucs: Okay, I did that and it's fixed.
[04:57] <Newbuntu2> bazhang: I've seen the list... but I was hoping for a recommendation/review
[04:57] <ChaosTheory> izinucs: There is no "custom" option though for "Visual effects."
[04:57] <bazhang> Newbuntu2: this is not a hardware polling channel sorry
[04:58] <neW1> hello
[04:58] <izinucs> ChaosTheory, ok.. now go to synaptic and search for compiz.  once the list comes  up look for Compiz configuration settings  manager.
[04:58] <brianw> darn, found it: /etc/dbus-1/event.d/25NetworkManager
[04:58] <ChaosTheory> Oops.
[04:58] <neW1> can any1 help me ?
[04:58] <code_kill> i use metasploit as one of the ways or "tools" of testing my windows network, but have any of you tried it on ubuntu?
[04:58] <ChaosTheory> izinucs: There is no "custom" in "visual effects."
[04:58] <bazhang> ChaosTheory: install compizconfig-settings-manager
[04:58] <crf> There is a dialog box on my screen that places itself above every window. It is from xkill. I don't think the dialog is active though. How do I make it go away?
[04:58] <izinucs> ChaosTheory, ok.. now go to synaptic and search for compiz.  once the list comes  up look for Compiz configuration settings  manager.
[04:59] <neW1> i have an ati radeon 9550 and cant seem to get it working ...
[04:59] <MeatGrinder> nickrud, thank you sir, working fine now
[04:59] <unop_> Tu13es, it appears that hdparm is run at machine startup via an init script .. so all you need to do is reboot
[04:59] <Tu13es> sounds good
[04:59] <Tu13es> thanks unop_
[04:59] <unop_> yw
[04:59] <nickrud> MeatGrinder no problem. But I am going to point out that the error message said exactly what to do ;)
[04:59] <ChaosTheory> izinucs: Okay, thanks.
[04:59] <MeatGrinder> nickrud, doh, guess I need to read fine print
[05:00] <nickrud> MeatGrinder sometimes the error messages are more obscure than religious texts, and sometimes they tell you what to do. We were lucky today ;)
[05:00] <MrProper> hi when im trying to login on my proftpd server it says password i enter is wrong
[05:00] <MrProper> changed pass with passwd proftpd
[05:00] <izinucs> ChaosTheory, ok.. now go back to system/preferance and you'll notice a  new menu option above the last one you just used to set things to NONE.. Go there and look for a place to put a check mark on Desktop Manager
[05:01] <unop_> sCOTTo, you still there?
[05:01] <MrProper> tried new password and it still says the same :/
[05:01] <Johnny_5> how do i change permissions 4 other users?
[05:01] <neW1> so, no one can help me ? :(
[05:01] <nickrud> Johnny_5 it depends on exactly what your end goal is, what do you want the user to be able to do?
[05:02] <Tu13es> unop_: hm, strange, I can't seem to get a yes or no when I hdparm -d the drives, and enabling DMA doesn't seem to have any effect
[05:02] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto neW1 please read this
[05:02] <nickrud> neW1 not working is a pretty general term, you'll need to be more specific
[05:02] <Johnny_5> i want 2 b able 2 move files from mine 2 their's and they ssh into my comp in their user name 2 get the shtuff off my comp...
[05:03] <neW1> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=569654
[05:03] <neW1> i followed this tut
[05:03] <ChaosTheory> izinucs: Wait. . .
[05:03] <|SPP|_O_GATO> hi all
[05:03] <izinucs> ChaosTheory, ok
[05:03] <|SPP|_O_GATO> i'm from brazil
[05:03] <ChaosTheory> izinucs: I set it to "none" through right click -> visual settings.
[05:03] <bazhang> !br | |SPP|_O_GATO
[05:03] <ubotu> |SPP|_O_GATO: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[05:03] <neW1> but it didint turend out like i was hoping :))
[05:03] <|SPP|_O_GATO> thanks
[05:03] <xxbladexx> hauhau
[05:04] <izinucs> ChaosTheory, I don't know what you did. where did you right click?
[05:04] <ChaosTheory> izinucs: Just on the desktop.
[05:04] <ChaosTheory> izinucs: It appears I have lost title bars again. . .
[05:04] <Tu13es> unop_: hm, strange, it seems all commands to change anything fail
[05:04] <nickrud> Johnny_5 ok, that's two different things. In the main, as long as they can read the file (and ssh lets someone read files just about anywhere, they can get them.
[05:04] <izinucs> ChaosTheory, hang on . I'm  going to vnc into my ubuntu box.
[05:05] <unop_> Tu13es, stupid question but needs asking, are you running them as root?
[05:05] <Johnny_5> so how do i chane the permissions to wheere i can copy items into their /home/user w/o havin' 2 b root?
[05:05] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, can you get to system/preferances/appearance?
[05:06] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi: Yes.
[05:06] <atul> i have problem related to sound.
[05:06] <nickrud> Johnny_5 myself I'd use sudo to copy the files into their home directory, then chown them to them if I wanted them to be able to alter them. So after moving them I'd do  sudo chown <theiruser>:<theiruser> <files> . That way they could write to them if they chose
[05:06] <Tu13es> unop_: as sudo, yes
[05:06] <atul> I can't hear anyrhing on ubuntu
[05:06] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, can you change it from none to the option below none?
[05:06] <bazhang> neW1: if you want help you need to give precise info; first read the link I gave you then report the exact errors you get when doing it
[05:07] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi, not without losing my title bars.
[05:07] <neW1> ok bazhang 10Q
[05:07] <ToddEDM> can you guys check out a site for me..... it doesnt seem to work , may i paste the URL?
[05:07] <unop_> Tu13es, well, what i would say is that obviously not all hdparm options are supported by some disks .. make sure the one you are trying to tweak is supported by the hardware (disk, chipset and controller), secondly, verify that you have the right hdparm command
[05:07] <bazhang> ToddEDM: go ahead
[05:08] <Johnny_5> k thanx
[05:08] <ToddEDM> www.oemdepot.com
[05:08] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, ok.. go to system/preferances/advanced desktop etc.etc.
[05:08] <balthazarguy> Ok, so I was just at #Wine.. and we found a problem..
[05:08] <balthazarguy> In ubuntu.
[05:08] <waki-wako> join #quebec
[05:08] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi, okay.
[05:08] <sCOTTo> hmm sorry
[05:09] <genii> ToddEDM: Slow as hell but it works for me
[05:09] <sCOTTo> unop_ sorry i dropped out
[05:09] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, scroll down while looking on the right side. look for "window decorations" and put a check mark next to it
[05:09] <balthazarguy> They said a problem I'm having in Wine is because one of my partitions isn't mounted right.. so I went to force mount it.. it says I don't have the privallage to unmount it..
[05:09] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi, okay, done.
[05:09] <unop_> sCOTTo, 'tis ok
[05:09] <ToddEDM> hmmm yeah it works on one or 2 pages then it doesnt work at all
[05:09] <sCOTTo> ok so nothing happens
[05:09] <genii> ToddEDM: Likely since they are using asp backend
[05:09] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, now are you still on "NONE" if so put it down  a notch
[05:10] <bazhang> ToddEDM: slow but works
[05:10] <nickrud> balthazarguy what partition, an ntfs?
[05:10] <balthazarguy> Yes.
[05:10] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi, I'm still on "NONE."
[05:10] <ToddEDM> ok thanks guys
[05:10] <balthazarguy> Nick: yes.
[05:10] <nickrud> balthazarguy   you need to use   sudo  to mount partitions
[05:10] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, move it down one level
[05:10] <balthazarguy> Nick: Ok, what's the command?
[05:10] <atul> I am some problem related to sound as it does not seem working on ubuntu. plz help me
[05:10] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi, no title bars.
[05:10] <sCOTTo> unop_ so is there a gui that will help me connect to my windows shares??
[05:11] <nickrud> balthazarguy  something like   sudo mount -o force /dev/<ntfspartition> /path/to/mount/point
[05:11] <tux97> I was wondering can u install pc anywhere v12 for this?
[05:11] <bazhang> tux97: for what please specify
[05:11] <balthazarguy> I need to unmount it first.
[05:11] <nickrud> balthazarguy sudo umount /path/to/mountpoint
[05:11] <Exfil> what is the best virtual machine software for running Windows XP Professional and Fruti Loops Audio Software with USB Midi Keyboard
[05:11] <tux97> for ubuntu gusty
[05:11] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, ok.. in a terminal type compiz --replace
[05:12] <Exfil> yes
[05:12] <bazhang> tux97: what does it do and is it windows software
[05:12] <genii> tux97: vnc is generally preferred over something like MyPC or PC Anywhere, etc etc
[05:12] <Exfil> tux: yes gusty
[05:12] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi, no title bars.
[05:12] <genii> *GotoMyPC
[05:12] <nickrud> Exfil you're probably better off finding a fruti loops channel and asking there, they would have more experience
[05:12] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, type metacity --replace
[05:12] <Exfil> well what is the best VM software to use
[05:12] <Exfil> and how do i obtain it
[05:12] <tux97> ok ty exfil i was just wondering where the howtos are for it cause i can't find em
[05:13] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi, title bars now.
[05:13] <bluebaby> hello, can someone help me. I'm at a friend's house because I don't have my wireless internet connection working anymore. I've tried following Ubuntu Help's Troubleshooting guide, but I'm stuck. Please help!
[05:13] <Exfil> tux send me a msg ill help ya
[05:13] <bazhang> Exfil: there are several; vmware-server, vbox and others; this is not a polling channel thanks
[05:13] <khajavi> any one have list of IRC commands?
[05:13] <bluebaby> I brought my huge desktop computer and fat monitor to my friend's house so I can implement whatever advice you can give here.
[05:13] <nickrud> Exfil one that supports midi and audio properly. This channel is a low probability of getting a hit on proper information
[05:13] <Exfil> thx, for being a dick about it
[05:13] <tux97> exfil i'm not registered if u want go to #bigcat
[05:13] <balthazarguy> SDA is one of the drives right?
[05:13] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, you stil here?  netsplit
[05:14] <alan_m> what part are you stuck on bluebaby? (more info needed)
[05:14] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi, yes.
[05:14] <nickrud> Exfil I'm not being a dick, I'm giving you good advice. Don't waste your time here asking that question
[05:14] <xxbladexx> subzid ;x
[05:14] <bazhang> bluebaby: you need to specify the problems
[05:14] <sCOTTo> ouch
[05:14] <sCOTTo> unop_: you here?
[05:14] <Exfil> i was asking in here cuz no one is my usual channel
[05:14] <bazhang> Exfil: language please
[05:14] <subzid> volt jah xxbladexx
[05:14] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, k. go to system/prefrences/advanced etc.etc etc and click on "cube"
[05:14] <Exfil> boo you i didnt swear
[05:14] <bazhang> Exfil: no name calling than ks
[05:15] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi, okay.
[05:15] <Exfil> ok i wont
[05:15] <MrSteve> moo
[05:15] <MyNick> help me regarding sound issues
[05:16] <bazhang> MyNick: please specify
[05:16] <Johnny_5> what if i just want to b able to move files over anytime i want w/o the hassle of doin' that everytime?
[05:16] <ChaosTheory> Yes, Scunizi, I did that.
[05:16] <dreamor> Anyone here using KVM?
[05:16] <MrSteve> system sound?
[05:16] <MyNick> i am unable to play any sound on ubuntu
[05:16] <aaearon> how easy is it to go from 7.10 32bit to 64bit? i'd just download the 64bit version but only the 32bit is on usenet and will download faster :)
[05:16] <MyNick> may be some problem with drivers
[05:16] <nickrud> Exfil possibly #vmware or #vbox will have some answers about their vm's support for fruti loops
[05:17] <bazhang> aaearon: easy if you consider a complete reinstall easy ;]
[05:17] <dreamor> Or I guess I should say KVM/qemu
[05:17] <bluebaby> bazhang, sure. This is the problem. in the month of March 2008, I used a D-Link WDA-2320 RangeBooster G Desktop Adapter.  I then removed it to put in another wireless PCI adapter. But ubuntu computer says "No internet connection." I tried putting back the DLink wireless card but that won't work now either. 8-(
[05:17] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi, are you here?
[05:17] <BhaalWK> Hey guys, Im trying to install ubuntu server 7.10 And it gets stuck trying to retrieve libc6-udeb off the CDrom, first I thought it was the disc, so reburnt it, then I figured it had to be the drive, so I replaced it, but it still didnt work, so then I figured burn the CD at a slower speed, and its still not working...  Has anyone else experienced this?
[05:17] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, ok.. now in the advanced setting box your in, at the top is "general settings" click that.
[05:17] <aaearon> i mean. can i "upgrade" to 64bit from 32bit or am i going to have to end up downloading the 64bit iso regardless? bazhang
[05:17] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi, okay, done.
[05:18] <bazhang> aaearon: upgrade in this case means a complete reinstall
[05:18] <aaearon> bah
[05:18] <nickrud> BhaalWK did you do the disk burn check on the start menu?
[05:18] <MyNick> bazhang: Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SB450 HDA Audio (rev 01) as per lspci
[05:18] <chiefwigms> hey guys - general question - i saw the guide on the forums to make a bootable live/install USB disk... anyways to make multiple partitions so I can have a "multi-os" installable usb disk?
[05:18] <MyNick> but no sound at all
[05:18] <bazhang> bluebaby: is the computer hooked up right now with a wifi hotspot nearby?
[05:18] <chiefwigms> i.e. - windows xp/vista
[05:18] <aaearon> and i know with hardy beta you can partition a drive from the installer, i assume you can with 7.10 too
[05:18] <chiefwigms> and maybe a bartpe
[05:19] <MrSteve> MyNick - motherboard sound?
[05:19] <bluebaby> bazhang, the computer is now hooked up, but am not sure if there's a hotspot
[05:19] <MyNick> yes
[05:19] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, ok.. under the tab Desktop Size, in the vertical size option but 4
[05:19] <bazhang> aaearon: sure you can dual boot the two
[05:19] <BhaalWK> nickrud: on the start menu?  I use k3b if thats what your asking?
[05:19] <aaearon> well i just need vista and ubuntu
[05:19] <bluebaby> bazhang, even thoug there was wireless internet in the air, the ubuntu comp wouldn't be able to find it.
[05:19] <nickrud> BhaalWK no, I mean when you boot the cd, there's an option to check the cd
[05:19] <Darkglow> Hey guys, question about NetworkManager and dbus... in 7.10. Why is dhcdbd starting with S24 ? This means that dhclient will not run before S24, but windbind, ntp for example start at S20 and S23. I don't understand why a service depending on network starts before network interface ?!
[05:19] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi, okay, done.
[05:19] <bazhang> bluebaby: ah well then it will tough to get the wifi working right? ;]
[05:19] <MyNick> MrSteve: I have compaq b1914 laptop
[05:20] <BhaalWK> nickrud: No, strangely I havent...  But will do
[05:20] <BhaalWK> I should have thought of that...
[05:20] <nickrud> BhaalWK also, do an md5sum check of the downloaded iso if the burn check fails, make sure you got a quality download
[05:20] <bluebaby> bazhang, well, no. The problem is with the computer not working together with the PCI card.
[05:20] <bazhang> aaearon: there is no real advantage to 64 bit unless you have more than 4GB of ram, are going to some heavy video compositing or like to live without youtube
[05:21] <Scunizi> ChaosTheory, click the "back" button in the bottom left corner.. now push ctrl+alt then the left arrow key
[05:21] <BhaalWK> Its odd, sometimes people say 'ignorance is bliss' but it really doesnt have many uses...
[05:21] <BhaalWK> nickrud: I did get it off the US mirror
[05:21] <aaearon> cant live without youtube, you sold me on 32bit bazhang :p
[05:21] <Odd-rationale> hello! is it possible to connect to a wireless wpa network via the command line?
[05:21] <nickrud> BhaalWK not the issue, but more a chance of a hiccup in the download itself. Happens now and again
[05:21] <captain> hey guys, im trying to figure out why everytime i set my laptop screen contrast to low ..after like 3 minutes or so it shoots to bright again ...
[05:21] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi, it says "Desktop 1."
[05:21] <bazhang> aaearon: I have a 32bit ubuntu running on a duocore 2 and it is fine ;]
[05:21] <Johnny_5> what the hecks goin' on in freenode?
[05:21] <ChaosTheory> Scunizi, "Desk 1," that is.
[05:22] <izinucs> ChaosTheory, did you get a rotating cube?
[05:22] <dreamor> bazhang: Why would you have to live without youtube?
[05:22] <BhaalWK> nickrud: True, k3b verified the checksum and said it was okey if that counts...
[05:22] <ChaosTheory> izinucs, no, I only have one desktop now.
[05:22] <bazhang> bluebaby: you seem to know what the problem is..is that right?
[05:22] <nickrud> !md5 | BhaalWK try this
[05:22] <bazhang> dreamor: flash is sometimes a bear to get going with 64 bit
[05:22] <ubotu> BhaalWK try this: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[05:22] <izinucs> ChaosTheory, you mean the representation in the bottom right  corner  of the screen?
[05:23] <bluebaby> bazhang, the problem is not with the router. it's with my pc not working with any wireless card. That is the extent of my knowledge of the problem.
[05:23] <nickrud> BhaalWK k3b seems to say it's a god burn, so next step is to check the source
[05:23] <ChaosTheory> izinucs, ctrl + alt + left makes a small square pop up that says "Desk 1" with the Xchat icon in it.
[05:23] <bluebaby>  bazhang, i followed the troubleshooting steps on ubuntu Help (offline)
[05:23] <dreamor> bazhang: Not so much these days.  Last few distros installed it with eaze
[05:23] <captain> im trying to figure out how to stop my laptop screen brightness to go to bright after 3 minutes of setting the contrast to low... any ideas ??
[05:23] <BhaalWK> nickrud: k3b verified the ISO before I burnt it I mean, but I will verify it against an online md5
[05:23] <izinucs> ChaosTheory, did I say to change the vertical?  sorry I ment horizontal the first line.. change it to 4 and vertical to 1
[05:23] <bluebaby> I do NOT understand. How come in March 2008, when I installed the Dlink wireless PCI card, the wireless internet just worked, but after I removed the card, and then put it back in, it doesn't work anymore.
[05:23] <ChaosTheory> izinucs, oh, okay. Let me try that.
[05:24] <dreamor> Hell this beta prompted me to install it from Firefox
[05:24] <bazhang> bluebaby: if you wish to listen to my advice that is okay; if you have different ideas or wish others advice that is okay is well; what does lspci say about that card in the terminal (just the one line)
[05:24] <bluebaby> bazhang, please hold. i'll do it now. 8-)
[05:24] <bazhang> hardy dreamor?
[05:24] <ChaosTheory> izinucs, ctrl + alt + left gives four square now instead of one.
[05:24] <dreamor> bazhang: ye[
[05:24] <ChaosTheory> izinucs, I think it's because I don't have "Custom" enabled.
[05:25] <MrSteve> like medotate, there will be keys
[05:25] <izinucs> ChaosTheory, enable custome
[05:25] <MrSteve> to use
[05:25] <bazhang> dreamor: but he was asking about gutsy ;]
[05:25] <captain> im trying to figure out how to stop my laptop screen brightness to go to bright after 3 minutes of setting the contrast to low... any ideas ??
[05:25] <ChaosTheory> izinucs, enabling custom takes away my title bars.
[05:25] <izinucs> ChaosTheory, in a termial type compiz --replace
[05:26] <ogre> xchat-gnome and xchat crash on my system when I open them I get "Segmentation fault (core dumped)" any suggestions on how to fix this?
[05:26] <ChaosTheory> izinucs, okay, I did that.
[05:26] <dreamor> bazhang: ah.  Never ran Gutsy.  It was easy enough in fedora and Opensuse though
[05:26] <bazhang> ChaosTheory: best to head to #compiz-fusion if you dont get better advice here
[05:26] <aaearon> why is the 64bit version named amd64
[05:26] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: Okay, I'll go there, too.
[05:26] <bazhang> dreamor: heresy! and offtopic to boot ;]
[05:26] <izinucs> ChaosTheory, use ctrl+alt and then use the left mouse button and drag on  the screen and see what happens
[05:26] <oc80z> How can one SFTP to a server that runs SSH on A differnet Port than 22?
[05:27] <ChaosTheory> izinucs, I don't have custom enabled anymore.
[05:27] <joetheodd__> What's the off-topic channel again?
[05:27] <bazhang> !ot | joetheodd__
[05:27] <ubotu> joetheodd__: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:27] <Newbuntu2> !webcam
[05:27] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[05:27] <izinucs> ChaosTheory, like bazhang said. head over to the other channel  and they'll get yo set.. probably faster than  I can
[05:27] <MrSteve> oc80z Putty does it in winders
[05:27] <genii> oc80z: use -o -p <port#>
[05:27] <joetheodd__> thank you bazhang
[05:27] <oc80z> ok
[05:28] <oc80z> what about in flashfxp?
[05:28] <ChaosTheory> izinucs, okay, thanks.
[05:28] <dreamor> bazhang: Hehe.  I'm a long time user of various distros of Linux and I just recently decided to try out Ubuntu to find out why it's so popular.
[05:28] <ChaosTheory> izinucs, I'll worry about Compiz later.
[05:28] <unop> oc80z, flashxp is a windows program right?
[05:28] <oc80z> Yeah
[05:28] <captain> hey guys any one knows how i can stop my screen contrast from changing to bright everytime i set it to low....
[05:28] <ChaosTheory> izinucs, my sound isn't working properly.
[05:28] <genii> oc80z: No idea, don't use it
[05:28] <oc80z> Hrm ok
[05:28] <unop> oc80z, we dont support windows programs in here, you should know  :)
[05:28] <oc80z> yeah duh
[05:28] <dreamor> I'm actually still kind of wandering why it's so popular, but I'm going to run it for a few months.
[05:28] <oc80z> my-b
[05:28] <MrSteve> I was once in dire need, and I found good winders assist on dalnet
[05:29] <ChaosTheory> izinucs, I get sound out of both my speakers and the headphones.
[05:29] <oc80z> did he leave u a leg?
[05:29] <izinucs> ChaosTheory, sorry not good with that one.
[05:29] <Kl4m> As far as I know, it's popular because of easier install and huge support (forums and here in IRC)
[05:29] <oc80z> heh.
[05:29] <MrSteve> yah
[05:29] <ChaosTheory> izinucs, no problem.
[05:29] <ChaosTheory> izinucs, thanks for your help.
[05:29] <ChaosTheory> bazhang, are you busy?
[05:29] <izinucs> ChaosTheory, np..
[05:29] <dreamor> kl4m: That has not been my experience so far.
[05:30] <bazhang> ChaosTheory: what is the precise sound problem you are having; I am not very good at it but if you layout the info clearly others can help you perhaps
[05:30] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: I get sound out of both my speakers and my headphones.
[05:30] <MrSteve> I think I got all I need.. and will back up then defrag, then try to partition off to install a dual boot.. this weekend.  Look for me then, or Under net
[05:30] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: In other words, plugging in the headphones doesn't mute the speakers.
[05:30] <MrSteve> good folks!  laterz
[05:31] <bluebaby> bazhang, lspci has this to say re: card: 01:06.0 Ethernet Controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88w335 [Libertas] 802.11b/g Wireless (rev 03)
[05:31] <bazhang> ChaosTheory: how about turning down the sound on the speakers manually?
[05:31] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: That also turns down the volume on my headphones.
[05:31] <bazhang> bluebaby: and what does ifconfig show? just eth0 and lo?
[05:32] <bluebaby> bazhang, yes, just eth0 and lo. By the way, just to let you know. when I had my wireless card working last month, I also remember seeing ath0.
[05:32] <sayap_ikarus> dddddddd
[05:32] <bazhang> not here please sayap_ikarus
[05:32] <nickrud> sayap_ikarus please don't
[05:33] <genii> sayap_ikarus: Please just state your question regarding ubuntu if you indeed have one
[05:33] <lumgwada> Does anyone know how to add highlights for regexp matches on a tail -f call ?
[05:33] <ogre> how do i completely remove xchat and all its settings? i managed to bork it and it crashes whilst opening
[05:33] <Radit> how do i start the gdm from terminal?
[05:34] <bazhang> ogre: what errors when launching it from terminal
[05:34] <captain> need to figure out how to stop screen contrast from shooting up to bright everytime i set it to low ...? anyone ?
[05:34] <Radit> how do i start the gdm from terminal?
[05:34] <dreamor> ogre: just remove the .xchat2 directory from you home
[05:34] <nickrud> lumgwada you might want to look into multitail, it does color
[05:35] <socres> hi, has anyone usplash with 1280x800 resolution get working?
[05:35] <genii> Radit: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start               or if from safe boot mode of single user, just: telinit 2
[05:35] <lumgwada> nickrud: cheers
[05:35] <dreamor> ogre: though I'ld just rename it incase I wanted anything out of it
[05:35] <ogre> bazhang:  Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[05:35] <bazhang> ogre and what about dreamor's suggestion?
[05:35] <bluebaby> bazhang, did you see my message re: your question about ifconfig?
[05:35] <Radit> genii, thank you :-)
[05:36] <Slynderdale> WHen I try to ugrade to Ubuntu 8.04 I get this error "could not calculate upgrade"
[05:36] <bazhang> bluebaby: atheros eh? are there restricted drivers for that?
[05:36] <captain> bazhang, any idea how to top contrast from automatically changing... i set to low but goes back to bright after some time.
[05:36] <bazhang> Slynderdale: #ubuntu+1 please
[05:36] <ogre> bazhang:  i dont have anything i need it for
[05:36] <nickrud> socres look at /etc/usplash.conf , make sure it's set to the right resolution
[05:36] <genii> Radit: np
[05:36] <luciddream> i have the gutsy gibbon .iso downloaded on my winxp box here and just realized my CD burner is dead.  i have another PC that I want to install ubuntu on.  I have a 16gb USB drive.  would it be possible to put the .iso on it and install from the USB somehow?
[05:37] <Kl4m> ogre: most xchat2 configuration is in the .xchat2 directory in your home. If you remove it, you'll go back to the default config
[05:37] <nickrud> !install | luciddream lots of methods here, you'll probably find one that will work for you
[05:37] <ubotu> luciddream lots of methods here, you'll probably find one that will work for you: Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[05:37] <bazhang> luciddream: sure; or you could unetbootin
[05:37] <ogre> dreamor:  oh thanks. its hard to tell when someone highlights me in stupid pidgin-irc
[05:38] <socres> yes ive set it to 1280x800 and make a splash with this resolution, when i shutdown this splash is shown correctly but when im booting a stretched version (think 800x600) is shown
[05:38] <bluebaby> bazhang, oh, sorry to confuse you. that wireless card that used to work did use atheros. But the wireless card that's inside my computer now... I don't know if it's atheros
[05:38] <anparks> hey ive got some serious problems going on here and i can't track it down or retrace my steps fully. when i load any terminal (xterm, aterm, gnome-terminal) it blinks on in a window and then closes immediately. any ideas?
[05:38] <bazhang> bluebaby: why replace it if it worked?
[05:38] <nickrud> socres hm, not sure why that would happen (I don't like splash screens, anyway)
[05:38] <unop> lumgwada, tail -f file | grep -E --colour=always "regexp"
[05:39] <|thunder> is hardy out yet ?
[05:39] <unop> lumgwada, but that only includes matching lines in the output .. it might not be what you want
[05:39] <Blaenk> when does hardy come out? 22 days but what day of the month
[05:39] <captain> how to stop contrast from changing automatically ?...
[05:39] <bazhang> |thunder: in #ubuntu+1 the beta is yes
[05:39] <Blaenk> 24?
[05:39] <socres> on the web i dont find anything working :(
[05:39] <Blaenk> or 23rd
[05:39] <captain> screen brightness i mean.
[05:39] <bazhang> Blaenk: 24th
[05:39] <bluebaby> bazhang, i had to.
[05:39] <Blaenk> thanks bazhang
[05:39] <bluebaby> bazhang, kinda long story.
[05:39] <nickrud> unop you should check out multitail, I messed with it for a while once
[05:39] <socres> is it possible to use the splashthing from suse?
[05:40] <bluebaby> bazhang, if we could make this current wireless card work, that would be great.
[05:40] <unop> nickrud, what advantage does multitail have over tail ? out of curiosity
[05:40] <socres> id whohld like it more, because of the verbose mode
[05:40] <nickrud> unop colorization, splitting the screen with ncurses, just more geeky fun
[05:40] <bluebaby> bazhang, to see a pic of the wireless card in my computer now, please see http://snipurl.com/23aff
[05:41] <bluebaby> bazhang, anyway, when i put back the original wireless card, ubuntu comp would'nt work with it.
[05:41] <lumgwada> unop: yeah tried that ... I need the non matching lines as well. cheers
[05:41] <bluebaby> this is how i've concluded that the problem is not with the wireless card, but with the ubuntu computer.
[05:41] <anparks> and why does trying to reinstall a terminal ask me to remove nearly every core package on my system?
[05:43] <ice109> does anyone know how i can get more character width in my terminal ?
[05:43] <ice109> err more characters than 80
[05:43] <bazhang> lsmod | grep rtl try that in the terminal bluebaby
[05:44] <T1m0thy> ice109, resize it? :S
[05:44] <ice109> nope
[05:44] <ice109> 80 character limit
[05:44] <MukiEX> Is there a way to force mogrify to resize to a certain resolution, even if it'll stretch an image?
[05:44] <bluebaby> bazhang, lsmod | grep rtl gives nothing.
[05:44] <gawwdotnet> ice109, You want a framebuffer terminal
[05:44] <chiefwigms> another question - i just reinstalled ubuntu - i can't mount any usb sticks or my other windows partition - it just says "invalid mount option"
[05:44] <ice109> gawwdotnet i don't know what that means
[05:45] <bazhang> bluebaby: the problem is with the drivers not being released not with ubuntu--trying to help but if you have given up ah well then
[05:45] <gawwdotnet> ice109,  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90689
[05:45] <bluebaby> bazhang, i myself haven't given up. Not sure I understand what your last message means
[05:45] <ice109> thatnks
[05:46] <captain> can anyone help me stop my screen brightness from changing automatically when setting it to low..
[05:46] <bazhang> bluebaby: this is gutsy? you say the problem is with ubuntu and that is simply incorrect; the real villain is the company (wireless) not releasing their drivers
[05:46] <Y-Town> captain: disable in BIOS?
[05:46] <dreamor> KVM question... I have kvm lib-virt qemu and the machine manager installed.  When I go to create a virtual machine parvirtualization is greyed out.  Any ideas?
[05:47] <captain> newbie ..
[05:47] <captain> you mean its a setting in my bios
[05:47] <bluebaby> bazhang, I'm not sure whether I've explained the story well. On March 1st, I installed a DLink wireless card. I turned on computer. Ubuntu made Wireless interent worked. On March 31st, I removed dlink wireless card and put in a different wireless pci card. I then couldn't get any internet. I put back same model of Dlink wireless card back into the comp, expecting wireless internet to work, but it doesn't anymore. And yes, it's gutsy.
[05:47] <Y-Town> captain: yo9u should be able to turn that off in bios
[05:47] <alan_m> captain, could be
[05:47] <captain> y-town, i set it to low contrast in gutsy...then after 3 minutes it shoots right up to bright .
[05:48] <dreamor> captain: are you setting it to low in your monitor or graphics driver?
[05:48] <captain> well its a laptop ..so im hitting the FN key and lowering it.
[05:48] <harsh1> Video playback in ubuntu 7.10 is slow, I can eloborate the issue if anyone responds to my message?
[05:49] <bazhang> bluebaby: sounds like you did something to your install; how about booting from a livecd and see if that catches it; if it does then we can eliminate several candidates
[05:49] <ChaosTheory> . . .
[05:49] <ChaosTheory> I just restarted and I lost my resolution settings.
[05:50] <ChaosTheory> And, . . . my volume is totally messed up?
[05:50] <captain> any ideas dreamor, ytown or alan ?
[05:50] <bazhang> bluebaby: if the livecd does not pick it up then here are the linux drivers for that card: http://www.services.assmann.com/download/adm/support-driver-2/DN-7006GS_driver_linux_v1027_20071221.zip
[05:51] <Y-Town> captain: I would disable the sensor in the bios and then set your brightness after reboot
[05:51] <bluebaby> bazhang, i made a Xubuntu 8.04 beta CD for another computer, and i tried booting live from that, but it still couldn't recognize wireless connection.
[05:51] <ChaosTheory> If I try to open "volume control," it says "No volume control Gstreamer plugins and/or devices were found."
[05:51] <bazhang> bluebaby: you said this was gutsy? #ubuntu+1 for hardy thanks
[05:52] <captain> not sure if there is that option in my bios last time i checked its a pretty simple bios not lots of options .. but i will try it and i'll be back
[05:52] <bluebaby> bazhang, thanks for link. is the link for my current wireless card (as in http://snipurl.com/23aff )
[05:52] <bluebaby> bazhang, yes, my computer is currently on GUTsy.
[05:52] <bluebaby> bazhang,  But the live CD i tried tonight was hardy.
[05:52] <CloudF1> ChaosTheory: I had a similar issue with the sound and fixed that by going to Sound under preferences, and under the category devices changing autodected to one of the other options, followed by a reboot
[05:52] <quail> hi all, can anyone tell me if they have a problem with high system load when coming out of suspend and hibernate on there laptop?
[05:53] <bazhang> bluebaby: well I have given you several options: boot from the Gutsy livecd and see if that picks it up, install the linux drivers yourself, or go to #ubuntu+1 and discuss the xubuntu issue there
[05:54] <bluebaby> bazhang, yes, re: linux drivers: is that for wireless card in http://snipurl.com/23aff ?
[05:55] <nuevonavegante> hola
[05:56] <ChaosTheory> I'm starting to get a bit fed up with Ubuntu. :(
[05:56] <danuel> Hi all
[05:56] <ports-FF> hey
[05:56] <danuel> I am getting an HP laptop, pavilioin dv6700t, has anyone installed ubuntu on this yet?
[05:57] <ports-FF> im using ubuntu 7.04 in vmware player.. and i just installed VirtualBox.... do i need to reboot before itll show up in Applications?
[05:57] <nickrud> !laptop | danuel
[05:57] <ubotu> danuel: Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[05:57] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: Are you here?
[05:57] <danuel> yes laptop.
[05:57] <danuel> thanks nickrud
[05:57] <ChaosTheory> izinucs: Are you here?
[05:58] <nickrud> ports-FF that sound really crazy, but    killall gnome-panel    will restart the panel and update the menus
[05:58] <zsiavash> when  it try to install java_app_platform_sdk-5_04-linux.bin on recovery mode by command "sudo sh" i get this error "java_app_platform_sdk-5_04-linux.bin: 1 syntax error "(" unexpected "
[05:59] <ports-FF> ok tht was crazy but it worked
[05:59] <ports-FF> nickrud:  is there a good guide to help set up a vista & ubuntu dual boot?
[05:59] <nickrud> ports-FF no, the rebuilding of the menus is normal (probably would have synced up without) the vbox inside vmware is what is insane :)
[06:00] <nickrud> !dualboot | ports-FF
[06:00] <ubotu> ports-FF: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[06:00] <quail> zsiavash: have you tried   sudo ./java_app_platform_sdk-5_04-linux.bin
[06:00] <unop> lumgwada, if you are looking for an alternative - tail -f file | perl -ne 's/(regex)/\033[1;31m$1\033[0m/g; print'
[06:00] <ports-FF> nickrud:  plenty of resources to waste while testing it :)  2gb of ram
[06:01] <danuel> great. thanks nickrud
[06:01] <nickrud> sys admins and their perl
[06:01] <genii> zsiavash: Firstly if you're in recovery mode, sudo is unneccesary as you are logged on in sungle user (root) as default. Secondly why do you feel it neccesary to use recovery mode to install this application? Thirdly likely it needs bash instead of default dash which /bin/sh is linked to
[06:01] <zsiavash> quial:sudo ./java_app_platform_sdk-5_04-linux.bin doesnt work says command not fond
[06:01] <unop> nickrud, hmm yep, what would the internet do without those two? :)
[06:02] <lumgwada> unop: cool thanks I'll try that
[06:02] <ports-FF> nickrud:  i just wanted to see what virtualbox was like without having to install ubuntu on my system... im curious about its seamless operation
[06:02] <nickrud> ports-FF if it works, try installing vmware inside it ;)
[06:03] <ports-FF> nickrud:  out of sheer boredom... maybe lol
[06:03] <captain> y-town ..still here ?
[06:03] <ports-FF> ok time to kill this
[06:03] <bazhang> bluebaby: you need to try the gutsy livecd as Hardy is still beta
[06:03] <bazhang> ChaosTheory: yeah, what's the issue?
[06:04] <quail> zsiavash: it might be cause your trying to install it from recovery mode?
[06:04] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: The resolution is back to the way it was.
[06:04] <MikeMiller_> hi
[06:04] <zsiavash> genii: by using bash pops this error cant not execute binary file
[06:04] <quail> zsiavash: oh you don't need sudo in recovery mode cause you are already root
[06:04] <bazhang> ChaosTheory: how about a simple sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[06:05] <MikeMiller_> sup ppl
[06:05] <Y-Town> captain: yes
[06:05] <quail> zsiavash: chmod +x java_app_platform_sdk-5_04-linux.bin
[06:05] <ports> i always forget how full this room is
[06:05] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: I've tried this already. . .
[06:05] <MikeMiller_> I know
[06:05] <MikeMiller_> whoa creating apps?
[06:05] <genius> Where does network manager store it's config? I want to delete old entry from wireless networks. It connects to my old network that is barely visible instead of connecting to new network with 100% signal...
[06:05] <MikeMiller_> who**
[06:05] <bazhang> ChaosTheory: what caused it to go back
[06:05] <zsiavash> quail: i think so but i have to because i need it to use in server
[06:05] <genii> zsiavash: Just:  ./filename
[06:06] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: I restarted the computer to fix something with the sound (it actually totally messed up the sound). =|
[06:06] <genii> bin usually = binary (executable)
[06:06] <iositd> ChaosTheory, you fixed the network issue?
[06:06] <MikeMiller_> I know javascript
[06:06] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Yes.
[06:06] <iositd> ChaosTheory, good to hear
[06:06] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Hi. ^_^
[06:06] <bluebaby> bazhang, how do i install the drivers?
[06:06] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Ubuntu is making me cry. T_T
[06:06] <iositd> ChaosTheory, why :(
[06:06] <bazhang> ChaosTheory: then start from scratch; make sure the restricted drivers are enabled, etc followed by a restart--this is gutsy ubuntu, or ubuntu based?
[06:07] <genius> Please help a little girl...
[06:07] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Lots of problems. =|
[06:07] <zsiavash> genii: command not found
[06:07] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: I can't access the restricted package manager. . .
[06:07] <iositd> ChaosTheory, give me an overview then
[06:07] <iositd> ChaosTheory, errors?
[06:08] <wolfgang> hi
[06:08] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 here is the cli way genius
[06:08] <ChaosTheory> iositd: My screen resolution isn't fixed yet.
[06:08] <bazhang> ChaosTheory: is this gutsy ubuntu or gutsy linuxmint? and what do you mean cannot access
[06:08] <ChaosTheory> iositd: My sound is messed up now (worse than before).
[06:08] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: I need to install something to use it. One second.
[06:08] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: This is GG.
[06:09] <genius> bazhang: i want to use network manager. I just want to clean it's config to make it forget a wireless router
[06:09] <bazhang> ChaosTheory: please pastebin your sources.list
[06:09] <iositd> ChaosTheory, the screen resolution is due to not having restricted drivers.
[06:09] <ChaosTheory> iositd: I enabled the restricted drivers and I restarted for something and now it's back to normal.
[06:09] <bluebaby> bazhang, i have to leave now. it's getting late. thanks for your help.
[06:09] <ChaosTheory> iositd: After I enabled the restricted drivers, it worked.
[06:09] <genii> zsiavash: substitute for "./filename"  ./java_app_platform_sdk-5_04-linux.bin                      if you are in same directory the file is in. Otherwise just put something more like /the/path/to/file/java_app_platform_sdk-5_04-linux.bin   where you put the actal path of course
[06:10] <iositd> ChaosTheory, good
[06:10] <bazhang> bluebaby we will be here tomorrow ;]
[06:10] <iositd> ChaosTheory, explain sound screwed up?
[06:10] <knifepoint> hey can anyone help me im trying to log into my uni wireless and i need to find a certificate file for Thawte Premium Server CA and Thawte Server CA to add to network manager
[06:10] <ChaosTheory> iositd: No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found.
[06:11] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Okay, I have two things in my Restricted Drivers Manager -- both are enabled but neither are in use.
[06:11] <iositd> ChaosTheory, i c. you might have to compile alsa for that
[06:11] <iositd> ChaosTheory, which are enabled?
[06:11] <ChaosTheory> iositd: How do I do that?
[06:11] <iositd> ChaosTheory, we'll come to that later
[06:11] <bazhang> genius: either way you have to do cli; why not go all the way into terminal-land ;]
[06:12] <iositd> ChaosTheory, first answer bazhang who asked for your sources.list :-)
[06:12] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Lucent/Agere linmodem controller driver and NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (latest cards).
[06:12] <iositd> bazhang, cli all the way :-)
[06:12] <bazhang> ChaosTheory: please pastebin them
[06:12] <ChaosTheory> iositd: How do I get my sources.list?
[06:12] <bazhang> iositd: ;]
[06:12] <iositd> ChaosTheory, cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:13] <bazhang> !paste | ChaosTheory
[06:13] <ubotu> ChaosTheory: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[06:13] <code_kill> do you guys know how to use ubuntu tweak?
[06:13] <benanzo> Can I configure SSH so I have to authenticate with *both* password and key instead of one or the other?
[06:13] <ChaosTheory> http://pastebin.com/d6cb07b4
[06:13] <genius> bazhang: here is my answer http://live.gnome.org/DarrenAlbers/NetworkManagerFAQ#head-bef25c7fff6853c702b745626a9b6fb40058f0e4
[06:13] <knifepoint> anyone have any idea how to connect to a thwate approved wireless network?
[06:14] <iositd> benanzo, yes, set a password on the key that you use. ssh-keygen -t dsa
[06:14] <eros> join #japan
[06:14] <ChaosTheory> iositd, bazhang: http://pastebin.com/d6cb07b4
[06:14] <DOOM_NX> good morning
[06:14] <benanzo> iositd: yes I did that but I want to authenticate the user account with a password as well, not just the key's password
[06:15] <captain> hey guys any idea why my main login screen when booting up shows as 800 x 600 then changes to normal resolution when logged in .. ?
[06:15] <zsiavash> genii: "./java_app_platform_sdk-5_04-linux.bin"  it is  in the same directory but wat is your idea about that when i try tu install this to the graphic environment mode it works but when i dont have graphic it doesnt work
[06:15] <code_kill> hey doom
[06:15] <DOOM_NX> i got a question related to virtual box... really simple... can anyone help me?
[06:15] <iositd> benanzo, the whole point of key auth is not using a password
[06:15] <bazhang> code_kill: fairly self-explanatory; install it and run it
[06:15] <code_kill> --------> (raises hand and symbols the wave)
[06:15] <iositd> DOOM_NX, this has beent old before to you ==> ask the question
[06:15] <code_kill> oh..
[06:16] <code_kill> lol
[06:16] <code_kill> didnt see it under system tools.
[06:16] <code_kill> didnt know it was put there
[06:16] <code_kill> lol
[06:16] <iositd> ChaosTheory, i can see you did follow my suggestion, however you forgot a few. line 6, 8,13,15
[06:16] <bazhang> easy on that enter key code_kill ;]
[06:16] <captain> hey guys any idea why my main login screen when booting up shows as 800 x 600 then changes to normal resolution when logged in .. ?
[06:16] <DOOM_NX> well, i'm trying to make an "Internal Network" between Ubuntu (Host) and WinXP SP2. I just don't know what to put in "Network name" at VB Network Settings tab...
[06:16] <iositd> ChaosTheory, so ==> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and edit those lines =)
[06:17] <captain> i also have a big creen with a Nvdia logo showing up before the login screen
[06:17] <captain> screen*
[06:17] <genii> zsiavash: Then obviously it's not an application which runs normally in a terminal but needs X to run. Use alt-f2 then put the /path/filename to run it in gui then. If it needs admin privelege prepend with gksu or gksudo     etc etc
[06:17] <iositd> DOOM_NX, that's a good one. I had a guide for that. A sec
[06:17] <bazhang> captain: how did you install the drivers?
[06:17] <aubade> What command actually starts gnome?
[06:17] <captain> restricted drivers nvidia
[06:18] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Okay, I saved.
[06:18] <iositd> DOOM_NX, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=346185
[06:18] <DOOM_NX> just to mention, internet works through "NAT" connection...
[06:18] <benanzo> Yes but I'd like to password protect the key + require valid user password -- that way I can just leave my private key on my work machine and not worry about it being abused.  They'd have to crack the key pass as well as my user pass.
[06:18] <iositd> ChaosTheory, then update :-)
[06:18] <aubade> Just 'gnome-session'? Rather use startx w/ .xinitrc than GDM since it's a single-user box.
[06:18] <DOOM_NX> thanks, let me check
[06:18] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Update?
[06:18] <iositd> ChaosTheory, sudo apt-get update
[06:18] <iositd> ChaosTheory, BUT ONLY if you have internet on it now
[06:18] <kambei> aubade: That should do it.
[06:18] <captain> bazhang, nvidia restricted drivers.
[06:18] <bazhang> captain: so the splash screen is lower res but the desktop works perfectly fine? is that the gist of it?
[06:18] <ChaosTheory> iositd: I'm talking to you from the laptop.
[06:18] <eros> just make your key 10 digits
[06:18] <captain> yup thats right baz
[06:18] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Okay, it updated.
[06:19] <iositd> ChaosTheory, good. a sec
[06:19] <captain> it wasnt like this before . i fiddled around with the "screens and graphics" section..
[06:19] <iositd> ChaosTheory, for easy use, i'll write you a script and tell you how to run it
[06:19] <aubade> Aye, worked. Forgot how quick gnome can be.
[06:19] <ether_c> hi
[06:19] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Run what? =D
[06:19] <zsiavash> genii:your right but as using in server i dont have gui so i need java enterprise "glassfish_javaee" to run in server then server apps can run on it
[06:20] <bazhang> captain: can you un-fiddle what you fiddled?
[06:20] <iositd> ChaosTheory, the script that i'm writing right nwo
[06:20] <benanzo> I guess I could just make an ultra limited user on my machine which the key will get into, then 'su me' to get regular user.  that will do basically what I want.
[06:20] <Y-Town> captain: did you get the brightness fixed?
[06:20] <ChaosTheory> iositd: That does what?
[06:20] <genii> aubade: Starting gnome from startx usually involves exec gnome-session
[06:20] <kambei> aubade: You could also just have GDM automatically log your (single) user in.
[06:20] <iositd> ChaosTheory, hopefully fix your sound
[06:20] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Okay, I see.
[06:20] <captain> well its been more than 3 mins now ytown ..it didnt change ... so i guess it fixed itself ..
[06:20] <DOOM_NX> iositd, i think this one is reffereing to "Host Interface Network"...
[06:20] <ether_c> can someone do a quick test of compiz on ubuntu for me? Press alt+shift+up to scale the windows, then try it using shift+alt+up (different order) to see if you get the same result?
[06:20] <ChaosTheory> iositd: It says there are 129 updates available. . .
[06:21] <iositd> ChaosTheory, while you update i'll write your script then
[06:21] <iositd> DOOM_NX, yes
[06:21] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Why are there so many updates?
[06:21] <benanzo> What is the most limited user I can create and still be able to ssh to it and exec 'su' so I can change users (but NOT to root) ??
[06:21] <DOOM_NX> hmmm i need the setting for "Internal Network" option
[06:21] <iositd> ChaosTheory, because you haven't updated properly last night. You forgot the 2 sources that had the most updates.
[06:21] <captain> Bazhang, im not sure what i changed . i think the screen model ... its on generic 1440 x 900 now ...
[06:21] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Oh.
[06:21] <benanzo> I tried making a user with their shell 'rbash' but that's easy to get out of just by execing 'bash'
[06:22] <benanzo> How do I fix that?
[06:22] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Was it last night?
[06:22] <ChaosTheory> iositd: I've lost track of time. o_O
[06:22] <iositd> ChaosTheory, for me it was, i just woke up
[06:22] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Everything has become a continuous blur of Ubuntu. =_=
[06:22] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Oh, it's well past midnight here.
[06:23] <genii> zsiavash: Glassfish is a java development kit. It doesn't have anything to do with running the application you create with it on your server.
[06:23] <ether_c> can someone do a quick test of compiz on ubuntu for me? Press alt+shift+up to scale the windows, then try it using shift+alt+up (different order) to see if you get the same result?
[06:23] <chrislabeard> Hey guys
[06:24] <benanzo> same result on Hardy
[06:24] <ether_c> weird, thanks
[06:24] <chrislabeard> whats the command to run a program after you install it in terminal
[06:24] <benanzo> np
[06:24] <yuri_> is there a screen managemen option available that will allow an app to not be overlapped when i maximize a window?
[06:24] <benanzo> chrislabeard: what program?
[06:24] <albech> is there a nice tool for deleting files older than 30 days? Trying to find a way to clear mails from a quarantine folder with a cron job, or can this be done through the mta or imap server?
[06:25] <chrislabeard> cssed
[06:25] <zsiavash> genii: so what servers should do when want an java  aplication servers run on them
[06:25] <bluefoxx> are there any general CAD programs anyone can reccomend to me?
[06:25] <erichj> cssed is the command, but it should show up in your programming menu under applications
[06:25] <benanzo> Does it not appear in the menu?  it should
[06:25] <benanzo> otherwise just run 'cssed' in the term
[06:25] <usuario> dodo
[06:25] <chrislabeard> ok
[06:26] <benanzo> thats a really good app btw
[06:26] <benanzo> use it all the time
[06:26] <usuario> quero fuder
[06:26] <chrislabeard> awewsome
[06:26] <genii> zsiavash: tomcat for instance
[06:26] <chrislabeard> whats the difference between ubuntu terminal and mac osx terminal
[06:26] <DOOM_NX> iositd: please take a look: http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/1702/screenshotwinxpsettingsui4.png
[06:26] <benanzo> Ubuntu's is better
[06:26] <erichj> chrislabeard, about $2000
[06:26] <benanzo> many more options but really for power-users
[06:26] <Demone> hey all, not used to ubuntu, attempting to install kde4base and kde4base-dev and getting not founds for the qt4 packages
[06:27] <chrislabeard> erichj: i know but i can do the same stuff in both terminals
[06:27] <bluefoxx> anyone?
[06:27] <benanzo> both use the 'bash' shell (or maybe OS X uses zsh?"
[06:27] <erichj> os x uses bash
[06:27] <Demone> osx uses bash
[06:27] <iositd> DOOM_NX, i only use host only networking myself, so can't help there
[06:27] <DOOM_NX> i see
[06:27] <chrislabeard> yeah its bash
[06:27] <DOOM_NX> thanks a lot though
[06:27] <DOOM_NX> anyone else might have an idea what do i fill in here: http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/1702/screenshotwinxpsettingsui4.png?
[06:27] <SkinnYPupp> bluefox: qcad
[06:28] <luciddream> hi, I'm trying to follow the steps here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick to install linux from a USB stick since my CD burner is broken.  I have changed my BIOS so the first boot device is "USB FDD" but grub keeps booting me into my old dapper installation instead of the new gutsy CD.  what do I do?
[06:28] <bluefoxx> SkinnYPupp: kk, will look it up
[06:28] <bazhang> luciddream: set it in the bios to boot from usb stick if it allows it
[06:28] <SkinnYPupp> bluefox: synergy by weber has a cam backend
[06:29] <luciddream> bazhang: I thought I had done that but it just keeps booting into my old dapper installation
[06:29] <bazhang> luciddream: you may need to hold down esc key to make it stick iirc
[06:29] <zsiavash> genii:thanks alot your my hero
[06:30] <bazhang> luciddream: or just unetbootin which is a new way to do it from within dapper
[06:30] <SkinnYPupp> bluefox: Whats your useage ?
[06:30] <luciddream> bazhang: holding down esc brings me into the GRUB menu
[06:30] <lkthomas_> hey guys
[06:30] <genii> zsiavash: Best luck with your server
[06:30] <genii> I'm out
[06:30] <lkthomas_> where can I find a full featured ffmpeg ?
[06:32] <iositd> ChaosTheory, copy this script into an empty file ==> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61987/
[06:32] <ChaosTheory> iositd: How do I get an empty file? =D
[06:33] <acxty> HI guys, I know this is not the correct place for asking this, but does someone had work with kannel?
[06:33] <iositd> ChaosTheory, alright, in terminal type ==> gedit sound.sh
[06:34] <anteaya> when i want a program to execute upon reboot, what file do I modify?
[06:34] <bazhang> luciddream: you could wait a couple of weeks and do a LTS to LTS one step upgrade via the net also
[06:34] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Yes. Then?
[06:34] <iositd> ChaosTheory, copy the text in, save it, then close it. type this ==> chmod +x sound.sh
[06:36] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Okay, done.
[06:36] <bazhang> luciddream: I have to step away for a bit; will help out later if you need it
[06:37] <iositd> ChaosTheory, once you're done updating (don't break it off, just let it continue first) run this ==> ./sound.sh
[06:37] <anteaya> when i want a program to run when i boot up, what file do I modify?
[06:37] <iositd> ChaosTheory, that'll download the latest sources, copy them to the right folder, extract them, compile them, and then remove the unneeded stuff.
[06:37] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Okay, it's about 3/4ths of the way through applying the changes.
[06:37] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Wow, okay. Thanks.
[06:37] <iositd> ChaosTheory, then after that you can execute the script :)
[06:37] <iositd> ChaosTheory, i'm off for breakfast now, we'll talk later k?
[06:37] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Execute the script. . .
[06:37] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Yes, sure.
[06:38] <iositd> ChaosTheory, ==> ./sound.sh (ask bazhang if you're lost)
[06:38] <bazhang> anteaya: why not just save the session with the apps you want open as is
[06:38] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Okay, thanks.
[06:38] <iositd> later folks
[06:38] <bazhang> iositd: haha I'm out for a bit and that is way over my head ;]
[06:38] <bazhang> cya iositd
[06:39] <Co_dJAiL> kkk
[06:39] <anteaya> bazhang: because this is a program for a server that i need to run when the server is rebooted, the server is debian
[06:39] <bazhang> anteaya: and where does ubuntu enter into this? ;]
[06:39] <T1m0thy> lll?
[06:40] <anteaya> because i am on ubuntu and am helping my friend on a debian server
[06:40] <anteaya> i know it can be done, i have seen the conversation in here before
[06:40] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: ./sound .sh gives "bash: ./sound: No such file or directory"
[06:40] <bazhang> anteaya: nice answer but #debian will help more; should be similar to ubuntu, but not the same
[06:40] <SkinnYPupp> !nfs
[06:40] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[06:40] <anteaya> so are you saying that i can't run a program on my laptop at boot up
[06:41] <anteaya> or you don't know where the file is?
[06:41] <DOOM_NX> guys i think it's really really simple, but i don't know the answer... what do i have to put there: http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/1702/screenshotwinxpsettingsui4.png
[06:41] <anteaya> because i would also like to know for myself
[06:41] <bazhang> anteaya: of course you can; but that has a gui and a server does not; and a debian server is a province of their channel
[06:42] <anteaya> okay so know i am asking for myself, where is the file?
[06:42] <anteaya> and my program currently doesn't have a gui
[06:42] <anteaya> just script
[06:42] <bazhang> anteaya: you want to edit it by hand? or want the gui
[06:42] <anteaya> by hand
[06:42] <bazhang> for a debian server? no idea sorry
[06:42] <anteaya> for ubuntu
[06:42] <anteaya> feisty
[06:43] <bazhang> mmkay
[06:43] <anteaya> i would like to run my script at start up
[06:43] <IcemanV9> anteaya: whereis <program>
[06:43] <Exteris> anteaya, put it in /etc/init.d
[06:43] <chrislabeard> what is the best irc client for ubuntu
[06:44] <T1m0thy> chrislabeard, opinion.
[06:44] <SkinnYPupp> DOOM_NX: something like homelan, officelan, hall5bldg1
[06:44] <anteaya> IcemanV9: anita@anitas-computer:~/programming$ whereis remindr.rb
[06:44] <anteaya> remindr:
[06:44] <bazhang> xchat
[06:44] <anteaya> Exteris: thank you
[06:44] <chrislabeard> T1m0thy: opinion
[06:44] <DOOM_NX> SkinnYPupp, does it have to be the same with something?
[06:44] <T1m0thy> Mine?
[06:44] <T1m0thy> XChat
[06:44] <bazhang> or irssi if you want no xserver
[06:45] <IcemanV9> chrislabeard: it depends on your taste ... xchat, xbitch, irssi ....
[06:45] <lkthomas_> Building dependency tree... 50% <--- guys, my apt-get hangs here
[06:45] <chrislabeard> IcemanV9: oh okay
[06:45] <SkinnYPupp> DOOM_NX: If it's your home network no, only if you need to connect into a remote network with a domain server
[06:46] <DOOM_NX> no... i think...
[06:46] <palomer> is there a program to find out the encoding of a string?
[06:46] <IcemanV9> anteaya: slocate <program> OR locate <program>
[06:46] <DOOM_NX> i just want to set the guest os in virtualbox to connect to internet through Internal Network option...
[06:46] <kdorf> quick grub question if someone would help me out.
[06:46] <DOOM_NX> i just don't know what do i have to put in that box
[06:47] <anteaya> IcemanV9: anita@anitas-computer:~/programming$ locate remindr.rb
[06:47] <anteaya> /home/anita/remindr.rb~
[06:47] <anteaya> /home/anita/remindr.rb
[06:47] <kdorf> I moved my windows partition to the end of the drive (it was /dev/sda1, now is /dev/sda5) and the root line in menu.lst read (hd0,0) so I changed it to (hd0,4) but windows won't boot
[06:47] <SkinnYPupp> DOOM_NX: virtual box and vmware server work just fine you can leave that empty if you aren't using domain wide network
[06:47] <kdorf> I believe it says that the device was invalid.
[06:47] <kdorf> then takes me back to grub list.
[06:47] <DOOM_NX> I can't leave that empy i think... it shows a warning
[06:47] <IcemanV9> anteaya: so it resides in your home directory
[06:48] <anteaya> IcemanV9: yes
[06:48] <SkinnYPupp> DOOM_NX: Try mylan or homelan yourlan something
[06:48] <onefunk> hey all, does ubuntu's buy out by the big m include ubuntustudio?
[06:48] <SkinnYPupp> big m ?
[06:49] <T1m0thy> I think he means Microsoft. :|
[06:49] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: My resolution is correct now.
[06:49] <DOOM_NX> let me see
[06:49] <SkinnYPupp> WHAT!?
[06:49] <ChaosTheory> Oh, he said he was leaving.
[06:49] <ChaosTheory> Anyone here who can help with sound?
[06:49] <kindofabuzz> onefunk: MS is not buying ubuntu lol
[06:49] <Slynderdale> Anyone here know of a good svn client?
[06:49] <kraft__> hello
[06:50] <IcemanV9> anteaya: like what Exteris said earlier, you can use /etc/init.d/ for boot-up
[06:50] <anteaya> IcemanV9: thank you i am examining that file now
[06:50] <IcemanV9> anteaya: ok. np
[06:51] <onefunk> kindofabuzz, is this a hoax. there's more if you google it. http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/25570
[06:51] <kraft__> i'm trying to config my monitor using fglrxinfo, however i'm doing it over ssh, and it keeps trying to confiure my laptop screen instead of the attached video
[06:51] <DOOM_NX> Is there any way forward a port to the guest machine on VirtualBox? For example i'm running in the guest system a file server, how do i forward a port to that program?
[06:52] <anteaya> IcemanV9 & Exteris : sorry i mis understood, i thought /etc/init.d was a file to be edited
[06:52] <SkinnYPupp> DOOM_NX are you running it on another linux box and connecting to  from a linux box
[06:53] <SkinnYPupp> if so XDMCP login is what you need
[06:53] <anteaya> IcemanV9 & Exteris : so do i place my program in the /etc/init.d directory and it will be executed at boot up?
[06:53] <DOOM_NX> Host OS is Ubuntu
[06:53] <c0mp13371331337_> Anyone know how to go about getting all .zip files from a given web directory?  Something like 'wget http://thiswebsite/files/*.zip'?
[06:53] <SkinnYPupp> client?
[06:53] <DOOM_NX> and i'm running it from that box
[06:53] <mike__> i have a geforce mx440 how do i get extra visual effects to work
[06:54] <DOOM_NX> client?
[06:54] <DOOM_NX> u mean guest os in VB? it's winxp
[06:54] <luciddream> bazhang: i had some trouble getting unetbootin to work, i will have to try it tomorrow though it's bed time now. thanks for your help.  i may just wait a couple weeks or get my hands on a CD if possible.
[06:54] <IcemanV9> kraft__: you need to disable X-forwarding over ssh
[06:54] <luciddream> good night
[06:54] <SkinnYPupp> No, what are you running on the machine you are connecting from?
[06:54] <SkinnYPupp> To  the ubuntu / VMserver box
[06:54] <DOOM_NX> i'm not connecting to any machine
[06:54] <IcemanV9> anteaya: soft link would do the trick; no need to place your program there
[06:55] <chrislabeard> hey what is the video card package that has all the drivers in it./
[06:55] <demon_spork> I just exited VLC and the sound from the video continued to play
[06:55] <SkinnYPupp> Ok you want to share files or services b/t the wwinxp and the ubuntu
[06:55] <demon_spork> how do I make this sound quit without waiting for the end of the track
[06:55] <IcemanV9> anteaya: and make sure it is executable
[06:55] <anteaya> IcemanV9: so i put a softlink in the /etc/init.d directory and that will work.  Okay, do i have to change any file permissions?
[06:55] <kraft__> IcemanV9: thanks
[06:56] <anteaya> IcemanV9: yes, thank you, it is currently executable
[06:56] <demon_spork> nvm, problem solved
[06:56] <DOOM_NX> SkinnYPupp, no i just want forward a port from the router that is physically connected to host OS to the guest OS...
[06:57] <SkinnYPupp> DOOM_NX: I gotta run but http://www.vmware.com/support/gsx3/doc/network_nat_advanced_gsx.html
[06:57] <DOOM_NX> i mean i can forward ports for applications running on ubuntu, ok? how can i forward ports for the WinXP applications? running in the virtual machine?
[06:57] <DOOM_NX> thanks... let me check
[06:58] <SkinnYPupp> Sure gotta get away from the monitor a few
[06:58] <SkinnYPupp> there is also a #vmware channel on freenode
[06:58] <anteaya> IcemanV9, : thank you
[06:59] <IcemanV9> anteaya: sure.
[06:59] <onefunk> kindofabuzz, whatchu think?            http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/25570
[06:59] <kraft__> IcemanV9: now i just get Error: couldn't open display (null)
[06:59] <kindofabuzz> onefunk: that was there april fool joke, notice it was dated on the first
[07:00] <l0tU5> Anyone know what is meant by "Must be executed from inside the NFS mount point"?
[07:00] <SkinnYPupp> kraft_: have an invalid display mode you are trying to correct?
[07:00] <IcemanV9> kraft__: yeah. i am not surprised. you need to be at the console. i never tried to configure video over ssh. it needs video/display to get it work. i have fglrx on mine.
[07:01] <flinttown420> frys electronics has a ecs geforce6100 and a athlon 64 dual core 5800 for 104.95
[07:01] <onefunk> kindofabuzz, what the !@#$%%^&, i guess they got me then. wow. thanks.
[07:01] <stephans> why is this wrong: scp Blood\ Diamond\ \(2006\).mkv hades\\stephans@horus:/media/Movies/Suspense/
[07:02] <j3kyll> im having problems with the user switch at the top of the desktop near the power down options. Each time i try to do a "fast switch" to another user the screen goes white. Only way to get out of it is to do ctrl alt f1 or restart. whats wrong?
[07:02] <stephans> i get: scp: /media/Movies/Suspense/: Is a directory
[07:02] <stephans> yepp it is...
[07:02] <stephans> and I want you to copy the file in to it...
[07:02] <l0tU5> Anyone know what is meant by "Must be executed from inside the NFS mount point"?
[07:02] <stephans> why is scp being stupid?
[07:02] <stephans> anuone?
[07:03] <stephans> I mean anyone?
[07:03] <EmperorLOLZORZ> nopes
[07:03] <ChaosTheory> I don't have any GStreamer plugins. . .
[07:03] <ChaosTheory> Any ideas? =\
[07:03] <cpk1> crontab is used to do scheduled events correct?
[07:03] <IcemanV9> stephans: remove the last "/"
[07:04] <stephans> IcemanV9 what does that do?
[07:04] <stephans> IcemanV9 wont that create a file called Suspence?
[07:05] <IcemanV9> stephans: are you copy one file? or multi files? if one file, then /media/Movies/Suspense/.
[07:05] <stephans> IcemanV9 wont that create a file called Suspence -- it does.
[07:05] <stephans> ah ok
[07:06] <j3kyll> im having problems with the user switch at the top of the desktop near the power down options. Each time i try to do a "fast switch" to another user the screen goes white. Only way to get out of it is to do ctrl alt f1 or restart. whats wrong?
[07:06] <stephans> IcemanV9... OK now the scp says: scp: /media/Movies/Suspense/.: Not a directory
[07:07] <stephans> what is going on?
[07:07] <metbsd> so it's not a directory,
[07:07] <metbsd> scp won't lie
[07:07] <IcemanV9> scp <movie> /media/Movies/Suspense/<movie>
[07:07] <mike_> stephans: are you trying to scp recursively ?
[07:07] <stephans> mike_ no just one file...
[07:08] <IcemanV9> that's the surest way to do it
[07:09] <stephans> IcemanV9: that gave me: bash: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[07:09] <stephans> bash: -c: line 0: `scp -t /media/Movies/Suspense/Blood Diamond (2006).mkv'
[07:09] <stephans> some more \ perhaps
[07:10] <sekre-ubuntu-id> tes
[07:10] <IcemanV9> use "Blood Diamond (2006).mkv" OR Blood\ Diamond\ (2006).mkv
[07:10] <stephans> man ... no idea what is going on...
[07:11] <stephans> ok
[07:11] <mike_> stephans: just bang on tab util it bash completes it :)
[07:12] <mmc> why do I need to run dcopserver   just to use mpg123 ?
[07:14] <kdorf> can anyone help w/ grub? :(
[07:15] <lkthomas_> I removed /var/lib/dpkg/status, how could I rebuild it ?
[07:15] <zambaboo> hi all
[07:15] <zambaboo> whats the status on evolution-exchange? is it still broken?
[07:15] <zambaboo> (for exchange 5.5?)
[07:16] <randy_> need help with wireless! Kinda new to linux but it wont crash!
[07:16] <Peddy> can somebody please tell me what is wrong. I get this when trying to restart samba: start-stop-daemon: warning: failed to kill 5712: No such process
[07:16] <Peddy> if I interpret that correctly, it means samba is not running?
[07:17] <erichj> Peddy, means it wasn't running or you are giving the wrong PID
[07:17] <j3kyll> im having problems with the user switch at the top of the desktop near the power down options. Each time i try to do a "fast switch" to another user the screen goes white. Only way to get out of it is to do ctrl alt f1 or restart. whats wrong?
[07:17] <CruX> hello all
[07:18] <Peddy> erichj: do  you think you could help me with this big samba problem I am having? please?
[07:18] <erichj> Peddy, I don't use Samba so I'm not the guy to ask really
[07:18] <CruX> some script during ubuntu startup change my permission to /dev/null from 0666 to 0600
[07:18] <CruX> how can i fix it ?
[07:18] <Peddy> erichj: ok, thanks anyway ;)
[07:18] <CruX> i must do chmod manualy :(
[07:18] <cpk1> if you make a cronjob as a normal user and the job that is running needs root access do you need to do anything different?
[07:19] <Peddy> can anyone please help me with the Samba service becoming unresponsive?
[07:20] <nick_> can we swear in this thing
[07:20] <mneptok> cpk1: 'sudo crontab -e' edits root's cron jobs
[07:20] <nick_> shit
[07:20] <nick_> yes we can
[07:20] <mneptok> nick_: no, you may not
[07:20] <Lap_Top> any one tel me which software is best p2p sharing on GUI based
[07:20] <nick_> but its possible to
[07:20] <nick_> but i wont
[07:20] <randy_> I have a compac presaro 2500 I installed  Debain with gnom and Kde and it will not see? my wireless card First step! e-mail me at randy_stiles@yahoo.com! HELP
[07:21] <nick_> frostwire - p2p
[07:21] <cpk1> mneptok: so if I want crom to rmmod and modprobe daily I need to create a root cron job? the man for crontab seemed to suggest you want to avoid creating root cron job
[07:21] <IcemanV9> Peddy: pkill samba [it'll kill samba's PID only if it is running]
[07:21] <big-boss> A quick question: Can I make a virtual access point using the built-in Broadcom 43xx in my laptop? If yes, is MadWifi compatible, or is there another way?
[07:21] <randy_> Thanx
[07:21] <Lap_Top> i try to install frost wire but its not working
[07:21] <AlabamaHit> Hello
[07:21] <Lap_Top> nick_: i try to frostwire but after installtion its not working
[07:21] <nick_> you got java?
[07:22] <nick_> you need the jre
[07:22] <Lap_Top> how to check if i got jawa or not
[07:22] <Lap_Top> tel me
[07:22] <Lap_Top> is there any way to check if my ubuntu got java or not
[07:22] <nick_> add/remove --> search for jre
[07:22] <AlabamaHit> Is there anyone here that can help me with enlightenment
[07:22] <IcemanV9> java -version
[07:22] <Peddy> IcemanV9: I'm getting this error when its running: Receiving SMB: Server stopped stopped responding    failed negprot
[07:22] <nick_> as with most things
[07:22] <Lap_Top> there is no jre in add remove
[07:23] <erichj> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[07:23] <Peddy> oops, only says 'stopped' once ;)
[07:23] <Lap_Top> now from where i can get java
[07:23] <IcemanV9> Peddy: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[07:23] <Lap_Top> thanks
[07:24] <mike_> any mutt / gmail users?
[07:24] <AlabamaHit> Anyone use Enlightenment?
[07:24] <AlabamaHit> I use gmail.
[07:24] <Lap_Top> any one tel me which GUI (Graphic User Interface) based p2p is best
[07:24] <erichj> Lap_Top, for what p2p protocol?
[07:25] <cristi1990> hello, i have a problem. I have 2 hdd, and i reinstalled ubuntu on one of them, but now gruub doesn't see windows anymore. can someone help ?
[07:25] <Lap_Top> i dont know about the protocol when i use windows xp i had gigatribe i want something like gigatribe
[07:25] <harsh1> Video plaback is slow in Ubuntu 7.10? I can eloborate my issue if any one responds to my message.
[07:25] <Lap_Top> erichj:
[07:25] <Lap_Top> erichj:i dont know about the protocol when i use windows xp i had gigatribe i want something like gigatribe
[07:27] <cristi1990> hello, i have a problem. I have 2 hdd, and i reinstalled ubuntu on one of them, but now gruub doesn't see windows anymore. can someone help ?
[07:27] <erichj> Lap_Top, I don't know of anything like gigatribe on linux
[07:28] <Lap_Top> erichj:i dont know about the protocol when i use windows xp i had gigatribe i want something like gigatribe
[07:28] <AlabamaHit> Anyone have enlightenment installed?
[07:28] <Lap_Top> erichj: which software u recoment for p2p
[07:28] <DragonLarma> hi
[07:28] <AlabamaHit> I installed it and Dont know what to do now.
[07:28] <AlabamaHit> I think
[07:28] <Lap_Top> erichj:what do u mean by protocol
[07:28] <kdorf> is there a way to install windows without modifying GRUB?
[07:29] <AlabamaHit> I am new to linux just installed today first time
[07:29] <zambaboo> kdorf, no
[07:29] <Flannel> AlabamaHit: Log out, and at GDM, choose "enlightenment" fro mthe sessions (bottom on the bottom left)
[07:29] <kdorf> fucking microsoft and their writing to the master boot record.
[07:29] <Flannel> kdorf: You just re-install GRUB afterwards,
[07:29] <erichj> cristi1990, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[07:29] <Flannel> !grub | kdorf
[07:29] <ubotu> kdorf: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:29] <Flannel> kdorf: First link
[07:29] <kdorf> Flannel: thanks
[07:29] <Romina> hi
[07:29] <AlabamaHit> OK will try, Thank you Flannel :)
[07:30] <Romina> does anyone here use mercury messenger (an MSN client)
[07:30] <zambaboo> does anyone know whats the status of evo-exchange?
[07:30] <AlabamaHit> will be back to say yah or na
[07:30] <Lap_Top> erichj: any software like macromedia freehand / adobe photoshope
[07:30] <Lap_Top> any software like macromedia freehand / adobe photoshope
[07:30] <zambaboo> Lap_Top, inkscape
[07:31] <Lap_Top> zambaboo: its too typical i install inkscape but its not similar to freehand
[07:31] <Lap_Top> zambaboo: any software which is just work like adobe photoshop
[07:31] <zambaboo> Lap_Top, gimp
[07:32] <cv> hey all
[07:32] <zambaboo> Lap_Top, you know what works like freehand? freehand. you'll have to learn new skills, pal. sorry.
[07:33] <cv> so hey, can anyone assist me in installing vbox on an intel?
[07:33] <ce__emotional_> hey
[07:33] <AlabamaHit> Flannel Thank you so much :)
[07:33] <lkthomas_> does anyone know any unoffical source for ffmpeg ?
[07:33] <AlabamaHit> Worked<font color=red> great</font>
[07:33] <harsh1> I have installed VLC, helix, Mplayer, Realplayer 10 with all available Codecs still my Video playback is slow regardless of which Video format you play.
[07:33] <Flannel> AlabamaHit: Please copy some non-html and paste it into Chatzilla
[07:34] <Madpilot> AlabamaHit, HTML doesn't work over IRC. Thankfully.
[07:34] <AlabamaHit> lol
[07:34] <rabiddachshund> ##apache is dead. Is there a way to give other users access to modify /var/www/x?
[07:34] <AlabamaHit> Sorry
[07:34] <Flannel> rabiddachshund: put them in the www-data group
[07:34] <alan_m> if html worked over irc, i would have to leave....too dangerous for my liking.
[07:34] <brian> Can someone please help me attempt to get KDX(http://www.haxial.com/products/kdx/) working? I really have no idea how to use it... The LINUX version is a .zip file, with a .lexe file in it, that does nothing when I try to click on it(New to Ubuntu btw)
[07:34] <Flannel> rabiddachshund: It's just normal permissions issues, nothing apache specific
[07:35] <rabiddachshund> @flannel: I don't see a www group.
[07:36] <Flannel> rabiddachshund: www-data
[07:36] <rabiddachshund> nope
[07:36] <zambaboo> wwwrun?
[07:36] <Flannel> rabiddachshund: whats the group owner of the stuffin /var/www then?
[07:36] <rabiddachshund> puma (main user)
[07:37] <Flannel> rabiddachshund: er..... that shouldn't be.  You changed it, yes?
[07:37] <rabiddachshund> flannel: not on purpose :/
[07:38] <Flannel> rabiddachshund: `grep Group /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[07:38] <Flannel> rabiddachshund: what does that command give you?  "Group [something]"  what is the something?
[07:38] <Lap_Top> zambaboo:i install gimps but the problem is its giving green shadow during editing on my picture which is fals shadow like some kinda program error
[07:38] <rabiddachshund> flannel: Group www-data
[07:39] <HangukMiguk> can someone help me get the right command into terminal, i'm trying to find a specific font to use with aterm, but my font list is too long (i have 3000+), and xlsfonts | grep name doesn't work
[07:39] <HangukMiguk> any suggestions?
[07:39] <Flannel> rabiddachshund: right, a www-data group.  Add your users to thatgroup, re-set the permissions on /var/www
[07:39] <zambaboo> HangukMiguk, |less
[07:39] <Lap_Top> regarding inkscape i dont mind learning inkscape and its skill but the problem is if i want to share with my fellows or with advertisement company my file do not open in there freehand
[07:40] <rabiddachshund> flannel: how? There's no www-anything in the users settings area. what's the command?
[07:40] <HangukMiguk> the font i'm looking for is in the r section of my font list
[07:40] <Lap_Top> and there is no way in inkscape to export file for free hand
[07:40] <HangukMiguk> so i'd have to | less through 2000+ fonts to find it
[07:40] <zambaboo> HangukMiguk, ls |less, then hit / to search
[07:40] <harsh1> I have installed "VLC, helix, Mplayer, Realplayer 10" players with all available Codecs still my Video playback speed is below 1x i.e slow regardless of which type of video file you are playing?
[07:40] <HangukMiguk> lol, fair enough
[07:40] <Lap_Top> and in inkscape i cant even able to access my customer's freehandfile
[07:40] <zambaboo> HangukMiguk, find /path -name 'r*' |less
[07:41] <zambaboo> Lap_Top, you need freehand then.
[07:41] <unop_> HangukMiguk, xlsfonts | grep -i "^r" | less
[07:41] <Flannel> rabiddachshund: usermod -G www-data -a [username]
[07:41] <Lap_Top> but i dont want to leave ubuntu its best os i have ever find
[07:41] <Lap_Top> i m satisfied with os
[07:41] <Flannel> Lap_Top: Freehand should be able to open standard vector graphics formats.
[07:41] <Madpilot> Lap_Top, ask in #inkscape
[07:41] <rabiddachshund> flannel: testing
[07:42] <cristi1990> how do i reinstall grub?
[07:42] <Flannel> !grub | cristi1990, first linkslice
[07:42] <ubotu> cristi1990, first linkslice: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:42] <Flannel> cristi1990: first link, sorry.
[07:42] <HangukMiguk> ugh
[07:42] <HangukMiguk> great
[07:42] <zambaboo> whats the deal with evo-exchange, is that being fixed?
[07:42] <HangukMiguk> font still isn't there
[07:42] <alan_m> dang, flannel beat me to it :)
[07:42] <zambaboo> HangukMiguk, whats the name of the font?
[07:42] <zambaboo> grep -i for it
[07:43] <HangukMiguk> Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever
[07:43] <zambaboo> grep -i for ro
[07:44] <rabiddachshund> flannel: wait, now I have to reset the permissions right?
[07:44] <HangukMiguk> still not there
[07:44] <DOOM_NX> guys, to install vmware on ubuntu it says: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r
[07:44] <DOOM_NX> how do i know mine?
[07:44] <HangukMiguk> is there a reason my fonts in my ~/.fonts folder aren't showing up?
[07:45] <Flannel> rabiddachshund: yes, make that stuff owned by www-data:www-data
[07:45] <rabiddachshund> flannel: and I do that by...
[07:45] <zambaboo> DOOM_NX, you're missing a backtick there
[07:45] <IcemanV9> DOOM_NX: just do as it says, but add ` at the end
[07:46] <DOOM_NX> cause
[07:46] <Flannel> rabiddachshund: I'm sort of wondering how you managed to change it if you're not sure.
[07:46] <DOOM_NX> below it says he used: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic
[07:46] <rabiddachshund> flannel: I have no clue. I'm learning by experience as opposed to being taught
[07:46] <zambaboo> DOOM_NX, uname -a will get executed before apt-get install because it is enclosed in backticks
[07:47] <Flannel> rabiddachshund: sudo chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www
[07:47] <Flannel> !cli | rabiddachshund
[07:47] <ubotu> rabiddachshund: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[07:47] <DOOM_NX> oooh i see...
[07:47] <DOOM_NX> thanks a lot
[07:47] <zambaboo> DOOM_NX, np.
[07:47] <DOOM_NX> so i just type the 1st command?
[07:47] <zambaboo> yes
[07:47] <niktoni> hey i have a problem : i wanted to add my user to vboxusers group, i did usermod -a -G vboxusers username and all my administration privileges disappeared from the menus :/ any help?
[07:48] <Flannel> niktoni: it's usermod -G vboxusers -a username
[07:48] <HangukMiguk> i'm missing an entire directory of fonts when using xlsfonts, how do i add them?
[07:48] <niktoni> how to do back the changes Flannel? :/
[07:48] <Flannel> niktoni: but, what you did was, instead of appending vboxusers to your groups, you set it to vboxusers (and nothing else).  Do you have another user with admin privledges on the box?
[07:48] <niktoni> i have root
[07:48] <Flannel> er... why did you enable the root account?
[07:49] <niktoni> root is always there, eh? i just set a pass on it, i dont remember why - i guess now i know why
[07:49] <NorD> hello
[07:49] <niktoni> i know its a security hazard flannel
[07:49] <icesword> ；）
[07:49] <NorD> who can help with change mac-address in ubuntu
[07:49] <icesword> ;)
[07:50] <zambaboo> NorD, man iptables
[07:50] <icesword> hello
[07:50] <alan_m> hello icesword, do you have a question?
[07:50] <Flannel> niktoni: Well, we suggest you disable it.  And since you have it, we can go ahead and use it, but if you didn't, you'd simply reboot into the recovery console.  ANyway, usermod -G adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin -a username
[07:50] <unop_> zambaboo, iptables??
[07:50] <Flashq009> hello room
[07:50] <icesword> alan_m, no,that appearance worked.
[07:50] <Flannel> niktoni: Those are the default groups for an admin user
[07:50] <NorD> im noob .... 1 day use llinux =( and need change mac, for active internet )
[07:50] <unop_> NorD, see ethtool -- it can do that for you
[07:50] <zambaboo> unop_, yes?
[07:50] <icesword> i mean :) and :p
[07:51] <zambaboo> eeeeeeeeerrr i meant ifconfig! :)
[07:51] <unop_> zambaboo, iptables to change the mac address? how did you arrive at that?
[07:51] <niktoni> Flannel thanks a lot :)
[07:51] <zambaboo> sorry about that
[07:51] <alan_m> hmm
[07:52] <icesword> alan_m, just add a icon.conf and ico to my ~/.xchat/
[07:52] <alan_m> okiedokie
[07:52] <Flannel> niktoni: Er, sorry.  Those should be separated by commas, not spaces (no spaces, just commas)
[07:52] <NorD> unop_, how i can change iptables ? xD
[07:53] <brian> Can someone please help me attempt to get KDX(http://www.haxial.com/products/kdx/, free to try, no installation) working? I really have no idea how to use it... The LINUX version is a .zip file, with a .lexe file in it, that does nothing when I try to click on it(New to Ubuntu btw)
[07:53] <friedtofu> hm no idea what is a .lexe file
[07:53] <Lap_Top> Is there any anti virus for ubuntu
[07:53] <friedtofu> try ./(filename)
[07:54] <rabiddachshund> flannel: it's still not letting me do what I want.
[07:54] <icesword> alan_m, what you mean,okiedokie?
[07:54] <_maw> brian: did you check ubuntus package manager for 'kdx' first?
[07:54] <friedtofu> Lap_Top i really doubt there are any viruses
[07:54] <alan_m> im saying OK, ill try that icesword
[07:54] <erichj> there are no known linux viruses
[07:54] <alan_m> you just add those two blank files icesword?
[07:54] <Lap_Top> friedtofu: mean i should not be scared from viruses
[07:54] <IcemanV9> Lap_Top: no need to have anti-virus on linux
[07:54] <alan_m> Lap_Top, no
[07:54] <icesword> alan_m, no,it is not blank
[07:55] <Lap_Top> thanks ppl
[07:55] <brian> _maw: That I did not... >.< I'll do that now.
[07:55] <_maw> virus' are a thing of the past, now its just compromise web browser and install trojan for bot access later
[07:55] <unop_> NorD, forget iptables was even mentioned, zambaboo meant ifconfig
[07:55] <Lap_Top> how to make my computer secure from others
[07:55] <unop_> NorD, ifconfig eth0 hw ether <desired_mac_address>
[07:55] <Lap_Top> is there any way
[07:55] <icesword> alan_m, it is like .ico is that appearance file,icon.conf is a conf file
[07:55] <compwiz18> Lap_Top: turn it off and unplug it ;)
[07:55] <_maw> and linux is vulnerable to browser exploits
[07:55] <compwiz18> Lap_Top: seriously though, Ubuntu is fine by default
[07:55] <compwiz18> Lap_Top: it is about as secure as it gets
[07:56] <Llewxam> Lap_Top: as long as you don't give your root password to anyone, ubuntu is perfectly safe from any cracking.
[07:56] <Lap_Top> so you mean any one can install trojan and access my computer even if i have ubuntu
[07:56] <compwiz18> Lap_Top: no, they can't
[07:56] <brian> _maw: Nope, not there. It's just one standalone .lexe file, but I have no idea how to open it. Clicking it does nothing.
[07:56] <alan_m> Lap_Top, no
[07:56] <unop_> Llewxam, he shouldn't ever have a root password to give out :)
[07:56] <compwiz18> !security
[07:56] <ubotu> If you feel the need to adopt security measures for your system, check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Security - See also !root, !firewall and !server
[07:56] <ltracy> Has anyone had strange problems with their touchpads and seen something like: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request  in dmesg
[07:56] <andb> about root passwords, just use grub to boot into single user mode...
[07:56] <Adantan_Alex> hi
[07:56] <Llewxam> unop_, hehe indeed
[07:57] <Adantan_Alex> i need some help
[07:57] <unop_> brian, find out what kind of file it is. use the file command.  file /path/to/filename
[07:57] <Adantan_Alex> one of my computers wont run ubuntu
[07:57] <alan_m> !ask | adantan_alex
[07:57] <ubotu> adantan_alex: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[07:57] <erichj> Lap_Top, Just remember that it doesn't matter how secure something is there is a certain level of user responsibility associated with keeping you computer safe.
[07:57] <alan_m> nevermind that command
[07:57] <Lap_Top> ompwiz18: Lap_Top: turn it off and unplug it (I Dont Get You What Exactly i suppose to turn off)
[07:57] <erichj> Lap_Top, switching to linux was a good start
[07:58] <compwiz18> Lap_Top: that was a joke, sorry :)
[07:58] <Adantan_Alex> :)
[07:58] <alan_m> adantan_alex, what errors are you receiving? if any?
[07:58] <brian> unop_: Whats the path for the Desktop? I can never remember that...
[07:58] <Adantan_Alex> no it runs the live CD but then it stops
[07:58] <Llewxam> well for the reason i came here then... anyone know how to work with internal microphones on hp dv6000 notebooks? codec is a Conexant CX20561 (Hermosa) and i can't get any capture from my mic.
[07:58] <Adantan_Alex> all u see is the mouse
[07:58] <erichj> /home/Desktop
[07:58] <unop_> brian, ~/Desktop ?
[07:58] <compwiz18> brian: erichj /home/username/Desktop
[07:58] <unop_> erichj, err no
[07:58] <Adantan_Alex> forgot something all you see is a mouse and the orange back round
[07:58] <alan_m> adantan_alex, how much ram do you have?
[07:58] <erichj> yeah I just caught that
[07:58] <Adantan_Alex> dunno im having a feeling that its the ram
[07:58] <niktoni> Flannel?
[07:59] <Adantan_Alex> will xubuntu work on it?
[07:59] <brian> unop_: /home/brian/Desktop/KDXClient.lexe: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
[07:59] <compwiz18> Adantan_Alex: what video card does it have?
[07:59] <niktoni> how do i disable root acc?
[07:59] <brian> compwiz18: Thanks
[07:59] <Adantan_Alex> dont know about video card
[07:59] <Adantan_Alex> never checked ^^
[07:59] <alan_m> Adantan_Alex, unless you give us a specific ammount of ram, we cant prove or disprove the ram :/
[07:59] <alan_m> or...video card for that matter.
[07:59] <compwiz18> brian: for 2.2.5 -- that's a long time ago
[07:59] <unop_> brian, what does this command do?  ~/Desktop/KDXClient.lexe
[07:59] <Adantan_Alex> 256 megabytes.... i know u need 384 megs to run the live CD but i was only going to install it....
[07:59] <compwiz18> brian: how old is htis program?
[08:00] <ltracy> Is anybody here running Gutsy on a Dell D620?
[08:00] <ltracy> or similar Lattitude notebook
[08:00] <compwiz18> Adantan_Alex: you need 192 to run the desktop cd, I think..
[08:00] <brian> compwiz18: Would it still work though? And I dunno how old it is... Site is at http://www.haxial.com/products/kdx/ if you want to look
[08:00] <Adantan_Alex> it will go on this computer but i dont want to take any risks with windows
[08:00] <compwiz18> someone correct me if I'm wrong
[08:00] <cpk1> what kind of DE does the alternate cd install (if any)?
[08:00] <Adantan_Alex> nah i read the thing
[08:00] <Adantan_Alex> it said 384
[08:00] <brian> unop_:bash: /home/brian/Desktop/KDXClient.lexe: Permission denied
[08:00] <alan_m> cpk1, gnome if its the ubuntu-alternative, kde if kubuntu-alternative
[08:01] <IcemanV9> Adantan_Alex: use alternative cd to install (much quicker than livecd)
[08:01] <Madpilot> cpk1, same as the desktop does - GNOME by default, or KDE if you get Kubuntu
[08:01] <avi_me> hi , I have a file system file which I took from my work place , it's was encrypted on etch , when i try to mount it in ubunutu i get a "ioctl: LOOP_SET_STATUS: Invalid argument" - I mount it with mount -t ext3 -o encryption=aes256,loop=/dev/loop0,noauto,user /mnt/sdb/storage /mnt/enc2 ... can anyone give me some pointers ?
[08:01] <Adantan_Alex> but since its the ram will it run xubuntu on 256 megabytes of ram?
[08:01] <harsh1> I have installed VLC, helix, Mplayer, Realplayer 10 with all available Codecs still my Video playback speed is below 1x i.e slow regardless of which type of video file you are playing?
[08:01] <compwiz18> cpk1: gnome
[08:01] <_maw> brian did 'kdx' exist as a synaptic package?
[08:01] <compwiz18> cpk1: its just like the normal cd, only it doesn't have the livecd features
[08:01] <Adantan_Alex> yes but then i got to re download plus i want to dual boot windows and linux
[08:01] <nordazavr3000> how off or restart eth0
[08:01] <unop> brian, ok try this then.  chmod +x ~/Desktop/KDXClient.lexe; ~/Desktop/KDXClient.lexe
[08:01] <nordazavr3000> ?
[08:01] <nordazavr3000> !calc
[08:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about calc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:01] <brian> _maw: Nope. There really wouldn't be any reason to, as its supposed to just be the one file to run it all, no install or anything.
[08:02] <Adantan_Alex> will i be able to dual boot with windows and ubuntu if i use alternate CD?
[08:02] <nordazavr3000> !calc mac
[08:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about calc mac - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:02] <nordazavr3000> !calc ethernet
[08:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about calc ethernet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:02] <Adantan_Alex> !dual boot
[08:02] <unop> nordazavr3000, stop that
[08:02] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[08:02] <cpk1> oh I see, so would it be silly then for me to install off the server cd so I can be more picky about packages?
[08:02] <Adantan_Alex> ty
[08:02] <nordazavr3000> stupid bot =(
[08:02] <_maw> brian: maybe get the windows version and run it inside wine than
[08:02] <unop> nordazavr3000, sudo ifdown eth0; sudo ifup eth0
[08:02] <compwiz18> cpk1: the *server* cd on the other hand, just installs the server
[08:02] <Adantan_Alex> yes x86 options....
[08:02] <alan_m> !botabuse
[08:02] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[08:02] <compwiz18> cpk1: so yes, you could just instlal the packages you want
[08:02] <unop> nordazavr3000, the bot only understands meaningful instructions not just any random thing
[08:03] <Lap_Top> I Am Happy With Ubuntu Even I Sacrifieced Many Sofware For Ubuntu Which I Use To Use At Windos But Why My computer Keep Getting Slow Day By Day
[08:03] <brian> unop: I love you. Very very very much. :D It worked. Now, will I be able to just click on the icon from now on? Or perhaps make a shortcut that uses that command to open it?
[08:03] <niktoni> whats better - xen or virtualbox?
[08:03] <unop> brian, that should work yes
[08:03] <Adantan_Alex> ok so how do i get the alternate CD?
[08:03] <brian> _maw: :D unop got it working... Thanks though!
[08:03] <icesword> Lap_Top, how much mem
[08:03] <_maw> cheers
[08:03] <cpk1> compwiz18: so it wouldnt be an excercise in futility even though after installing off the server cd I will be installing a DE?
[08:03] <alan_m> !alternative | Adantan_Alex
[08:03] <ubotu> Adantan_Alex: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[08:03] <alan_m> dang, thought it had a link, oops
[08:03] <simplexio> niktoni: depends what you need
[08:03] <compwiz18> cpk1: that's right: server gets you a terminal, you can then install the DE and other stuff
[08:03] <compwiz18> kinda fun if you're bored
[08:03] <Lap_Top>  icesword: 1 Giga Memory
[08:04] <cpk1> compwiz18: or just want more control over all the packages =)
[08:04] <compwiz18> cpk1: that too :)
[08:04] <Madpilot> Lap_Top, 1GB of RAM is ample for Ubuntu. Unlike Windows, newer versions of Ubuntu are *faster* on the same hardware!
[08:04] <icesword> Lap_Top, then everything has the right driver,no restricted?
[08:04] <brian> unop: Ok, so that I know for next time... What did that command actually do?
[08:04] <Lap_Top>  icesword: I Have Pentium 4 Intel 2 Giga Processor
[08:04] <Adantan_Alex> !minimal
[08:04] <ubotu> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[08:04] <niktoni> simplexio - install windows to run one app that wouldnt work well with wine - does any of them allow to move files to the host filesystem?
[08:04] <Lap_Top>  icesword: No I Dont Have Any Restricted Driver
[08:05] <icesword> Lap_Top, hehe,no,i mean,en,it is okay
[08:05] <Adantan_Alex> problem
[08:05] <Adantan_Alex> ok thats going to be a problem....
[08:05] <alan_m> with? Adantan_Alex ?
[08:05] <Adantan_Alex> will i be able to dual boot windows and ubuntu with alternate CD?
[08:05] <harsh1> I have installed VLC, helix, Mplayer, Realplayer 10 with all available Codecs still my Video playback speed is below 1x i.e slow regardless of which type of video file you are playing?
[08:05] <Madpilot> Adantan_Alex, of course.
[08:05] <unop> brian, i made the file executable -- i believe you can do this by also right clicking the file -> permissions properties -> set execute (i dont have gnome so this could be off) ..
[08:05] <alan_m> Adantan_Alex, yes of course!
[08:06] <unop> brian, from the terminal.  chmod +x ~/Desktop/KDXClient.lexe; ~/Desktop/KDXClient.lexe
[08:06] <icesword> Lap_Top, then what is slow,what app
[08:06] <Lap_Top>  icesword: no my friend i found my computer getting slow day by day and it got stuck some time during doing work
[08:06] <Adantan_Alex> ok and drive partitions?
[08:06] <Adantan_Alex> ok i guess so
[08:06] <simplexio> niktoni: vbox is easy, and you can use samba to moce files
[08:06] <icesword> Lap_Top, then you can  kill some services unneeded
[08:06] <alan_m> Adantan_Alex, you can do everything the desktop cd does...just without a desktop gui
[08:06] <Adantan_Alex> whats the link?
[08:07] <brian> unop: Ah, I see :D Thanks. I'll remember that for next time(Need to set up the server still, and then set up clients on friends boxes!
[08:07] <Lap_Top> how to kill services
[08:07] <brian> unop: Thanks a bunch :)
[08:07] <unop> np
[08:07] <Adantan_Alex> !alternate
[08:07] <ubotu> The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[08:07] <alan_m> Adantan_Alex, hang in there im downloading a iso image myself, once i get done with that ill get you the link, or if someone would help me out :)
[08:07] <simplexio> niktoni: far as i know, you cant run windows in xen if you dont have right cpu
[08:07] <Lap_Top>  icesword: i dont have any services
[08:07] <Adantan_Alex> ok thanks
[08:07] <icesword> Lap_Top, no,i mean background services
[08:07] <niktoni> thx simplexio - pendrive would be convenient but i heard open source version of virtualbox doesnt have usb
[08:08] <alan_m> Guys, someone got the link to the alternate ISO image?
[08:08] <karayan> Hello all if I download and install Hardy beta, when the final version comes out should I download it again or can I do an upgrade?
[08:08] <alan_m> if so...please help Adantan_Alex thanks!
[08:08] <Lap_Top> i use pidgin / word processor/ mozilla/ vlc/ sometime download
[08:08] <alan_m> karayan, when it comes out, just update like normal
[08:08] <Adantan_Alex> thanks man
[08:08] <unop> alan_m, redirect him to !google, it can't be very hard finding a download :)
[08:08] <unop> Adantan_Alex, ^^
[08:08] <harsh1> I have installed VLC, helix, Mplayer, Realplayer 10 with all available Codecs still my Video playback speed is below 1x i.e slow regardless of which type of video file you are playing?
[08:09] <Lap_Top> icesword: i use pidgin / word processor/ mozilla/ vlc/ sometime download
[08:09] <Madpilot> karayan, if you install beta, and keep updating, you'll get to final when it comes out
[08:09] <Adantan_Alex> .... dont worry i will look on site
[08:09] <alan_m> unop, i was trying not to go to google, but hey as a last resort there you go buddy.
[08:09] <alan_m> :/
[08:09] <icesword> Lap_Top, i see,that openoffice and firefox all use lots of mem
[08:09] <Adantan_Alex> there is a x fire plug in for pig din isnt there?
[08:09] <unop> alan_m, were you relying on one of us to have committed a download URL to memory? :)
[08:09] <simplexio> harsh1: maybe video source is "slow" with mplayer try } to speed it
[08:10] <Lap_Top> icesword: i have 1 giga memory
[08:10] <alan_m> no, i was expecting ubotu to ;)
[08:10] <Adantan_Alex> well used to be called gaim
[08:10] <alan_m> lol
[08:10] <karayan> alan_m, Madpilot, thanks.  Usuall will the update be big? I mean the size I have to download again.
[08:10] <icesword> Lap_Top, you run free in terminal to see,
[08:10] <Madpilot> karayan, shouldn't be. You'll have a LOT of daily updates between now and release, though.
[08:10] <alan_m> karayan, depending on how many updates they spit out between the hardy start and now.
[08:10] <icesword> Lap_Top, free
[08:11] <Adantan_Alex> so whats the difference if u buy ubuntu?
[08:11] <alan_m> karayan, not even I am sure of how big/how many updates, but when you DO get it, then the support room will be #ubuntu+1, not in #ubuntu
[08:11] <bluecake> where is the config file for tac_plus, pstree says it's running
[08:11] <Lap_Top> free 96184
[08:11] <alan_m> that is....until a few weeks from now karayan.
[08:11] <alan_m> karayan, when hardy goes mainstream
[08:12] <niktoni> how to disable root account ?
[08:12] <karayan> alan_m, thank you. I am going to try Hardy today
[08:12] <alan_m> Karayan, your welcome, and same with me buddy, download just finished and now im burning the image to a cd :)
[08:12] <RootChaos> join #mailman
[08:12] <RootChaos> haha
[08:12] <Adantan_Alex> ok guys gonna download alternate ubuntu now....
[08:12] <harsh1> Thanks for reply, when you are refering to Video source does that means Hard Disk?
[08:13] <Adantan_Alex> thanks all i will stay around
[08:13] <Lap_Top> icesword: how to get all these terminal command
[08:13] <icesword> Lap_Top, hehe,tab
[08:13] <icesword> tab button
[08:13] <pbne04> how do I check when I last did 'updatedb'?
[08:13] <IcemanV9> Lap_Top: free -m (it will display in human readable)
[08:14] <Lap_Top> icesword: tab?
[08:14] <Lap_Top> free -m
[08:14] <Lap_Top> free 839
[08:15] <Adantan_Alex> damn
[08:15] <Adantan_Alex> !dual boot
[08:15] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[08:16] <alan_m> hardy here i come, love you guys, been nice knowing you, see ya in a few weeks ;)
[08:16] <IcemanV9> Lap_Top: is that from -/+ buffers/cache line?
[08:16] <Adantan_Alex> bye man
[08:16] <Lap_Top> IcemanV9: is there any way to access remote computer which got windows xp tel me what i suppose to do to access
[08:17] <Adantan_Alex> lol
[08:17] <terminhell> supness
[08:17] <Adantan_Alex> yo
[08:17] <fingers> just finished installing beta 8.04 and its working great
[08:17] <IcemanV9> Lap_Top: terminal server client (rdp)
[08:17] <fingers> just felt like letting everyone know :)
[08:17] <terminhell> cant wait for final release
[08:17] <alan_m> awesome fingers, im fixing to grab it myself :)
[08:17] <Adantan_Alex> lol
[08:17] <Lap_Top> IcemanV9: is there any gui way
[08:17] <Adantan_Alex> let me know how it goes....
[08:18]  * cpk1 is burning a beta cd right now...
[08:18] <alan_m> i will :)
[08:18] <Adantan_Alex> ^^
[08:18] <avi_me> hi , I have a file system file which I took from my work place , it's was encrypted on etch , when i try to mount it in ubunutu i get a "ioctl: LOOP_SET_STATUS: Invalid argument" - I mount it with mount -t ext3 -o encryption=aes256,loop=/dev/loop0,noauto,user /mnt/sdb/storage /mnt/enc2 ... can anyone give me some pointers ?
[08:18] <fingers> yea i reinstalled fresh just incase lol
[08:18] <Adantan_Alex> alan u got msn?
[08:18] <Adantan_Alex> well u know if ur running ubuntu....
[08:18] <metbsd> how do i set a firewall that allow anywhere to destination 1.3.4.2 port 25
[08:18] <alan_m> adantan_alex, i dont give out my instant message accounts to anybody on irc, sorry
[08:18] <Adantan_Alex> its ok
[08:18] <IcemanV9> Lap_Top: it is gui app
[08:18] <alan_m> i dont need the spam or unwanted attention
[08:19] <Adantan_Alex> kk
[08:19] <fingers> any bugs a casual user should expect?
[08:19] <cpk1> metbsd: using iptables? its much easier to use helper programs like shorewall or the like
[08:19] <Adantan_Alex> who here has xubuntu?
[08:19] <IcemanV9> Lap_Top: applications > internet > terminal server client
[08:19] <fingers> i mainly listen to music and surf
[08:19] <harsh1> Thanks for reply simplexio, when you are refering to Video source does that means Hard Disk?
[08:19] <jaffarkelshac> hey ppl, i am trying to listen to an online fm station, it works with windows media player and now i am stuck
[08:19] <cpk1> fingers:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron/Beta i think has an outstanding issues section
[08:19] <mmm4m5m> Question: can someone give me a hint how to install flash player in my home directory?
[08:19] <Lap_Top> IcemanV9: Thankx man do u have yahoo id
[08:20] <Adantan_Alex> ok
[08:20] <mike__> what is the compiz fusion channel?
[08:20] <Adantan_Alex> who here has ubuntu?
[08:20] <terminhell> ...
[08:20] <Adantan_Alex> :)
[08:20] <tuna> hmm
[08:20] <alan_m> lol Adantan_Alex are you serious
[08:20] <Adantan_Alex> ....
[08:20] <fingers> I HAVE UBUNTU :)
[08:20] <Adantan_Alex> no im j/king
[08:20] <alan_m> !caps | fingers, please dont do that
[08:20] <ubotu> fingers, please dont do that: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[08:20] <fingers> sorry
[08:20] <tuna> ubuntu seems to have not properly set my clock.
[08:21] <IcemanV9> Lap_Top: yes, but i do not give it out. sorry. :) there are plenty ppl here that can help ya down the road.
[08:21] <Adantan_Alex> i got windows so eh but im trying to get ubuntu lol trying....
[08:21] <fingers> manually set it
[08:21] <terminhell> ooohhh ubotu....
[08:21] <bluecake> i ve install proftpd, how to use it?
[08:21] <Yoshi_Matrix> I am not joking I have ubuntu :p
[08:21] <Adantan_Alex> dunno soz
[08:21] <Lap_Top> IcemanV9: No Problem Man
[08:21] <Adantan_Alex> !proftpd
[08:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about proftpd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:21] <alan_m> Adantan_Alex, its a crazy road, but if you need help were here to help :)
[08:21] <Adantan_Alex> yeah
[08:21] <jaffarkelshac> !nfs
[08:21] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
 just put it in .mozilla/plugins
[08:21] <alan_m> well, ill be able to help in a few weeks anyways lol
[08:21] <terminhell> proftpd has a gui front end i believe
[08:22] <Adantan_Alex> its like trying to learn to ride a bike only 1 major mess up and u will know about it lol
[08:22] <Adantan_Alex> lol kk
[08:22] <Lap_Top> IcemanV9: Is There Video / Audio Multipurpose Multiformate Converter GUI Based
[08:22]  * IcemanV9 is crawling into the warm bed ... g'nite yall
[08:22] <mmm4m5m> tuna: that is all? to get it from web site, read put it in .mozila? nothing with flashplugin-nonfree package?
[08:23] <Adantan_Alex> cya
[08:23] <IcemanV9> Lap_Top: no idea :-/
[08:23] <alan_m> 10 seconds
[08:23] <mike__> anyone use compiz fusion + emerald?
[08:23] <alan_m> yay
[08:23] <bidget> hello
[08:23] <terminhell> i have mike
[08:23] <tuna> mmm4m5m: do you use 64 or 32-bit ubuntu?
[08:23] <Adantan_Alex> lol
[08:23] <Adantan_Alex> omg 21 days....
[08:23] <Adantan_Alex> lol
[08:23] <alan_m> and.......ciao folks!
[08:23] <cpk1> !anyone | mike__
[08:23] <ubotu> mike__: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:23] <tuna> mmm4m5m: if you want to install it in your home dir, that is where it goes.
[08:23] <mike__> did you ever have any problems getting emerald to accept my borders that i imported
[08:23] <alan_m> see ya in 21 days!
[08:23] <terminhell> mike__: i have
[08:23] <huy> hi, ubuntu keeps crashing on me, and i have no idea why. is there a way to find out?
[08:24] <bidget> can anyone give me a hand with this problem? Ive been on the forums for a while but nobody seems to know what to do lol
[08:24] <Adantan_Alex> lol
[08:24] <terminhell> mike__: like to install them or after installing?
[08:24] <bidget> install
[08:24] <Adantan_Alex> bye
[08:24] <Adantan_Alex> ok
[08:24] <bidget> I can't install, I think maybe my graphics card isnt supported?
[08:24] <bluecake> i ve install proftpd, how to use it?
[08:24] <tuna> huy: there are plenty of logs in /var/log look at the kernel logs in particular
[08:24] <Adantan_Alex> !alternate
[08:24] <ubotu> The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[08:24] <Adantan_Alex> bidget: try the alternate CD
[08:24] <bidget> I click the install button and it says loading kernel, then it goes to a black screen, monitor shuts off as if going into hibernate or standby or something
[08:24] <CorbinFox> bidget: are you running on a laptop?
[08:24] <bidget> no
[08:25] <bidget> desktop
[08:25] <mike__> i installed emerald after compiz fusion then i did --replace and window borders are checked and it shows some red window border but when i go to select mine it wont do it and then they disapear
[08:25] <tuna> huy: although it you use ati drivers, I can tell you the reason for the crashes right now...
[08:25] <Adantan_Alex> im running a lap top and the live CD works
[08:25] <mmm4m5m> tuna: 10x a lot
[08:25] <Adantan_Alex> bidget: whats your ram?
[08:25] <CorbinFox> bidget: try perhaps this boot command "noapic nolapic", it may just work.
[08:25] <bidget> 2gb
[08:25] <bidget> or do you want like the brand and model
[08:25] <terminhell> mike__: it sounds hardware related or your openGL isng configured correctly
[08:25] <Adantan_Alex> bidget: ok refer to corbinfox
[08:25] <bidget> hmm ok
[08:26] <bidget> noapic nolapic
[08:26] <CorbinFox> bidget: if that doesnt work try "noapic noirqdebug"
[08:26] <bidget> ok brb lol we'll see what happens
[08:26] <mike__> im using xgl
[08:26] <CorbinFox> i have had varying success with the first one
[08:26] <CorbinFox> the second one made my laptop work flawlessly
[08:26] <bidget> wish me luck :D
[08:26] <terminhell> mike__: try disabling it and see what happens
[08:26] <CorbinFox> and it sounds just like my issue i was having
[08:26] <CorbinFox> good luck
[08:27] <mike__> disabling what
[08:27] <PaulM> may the devil take my usb hard drive adaptor, and the hard drive into which it is plugged!
[08:27] <terminhell> mike__: xgl....bbiaf afk
[08:27] <Adantan_Alex> lol
[08:27] <Adantan_Alex> omg lost the link....
[08:27] <Adantan_Alex> !dual boot
[08:27] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[08:27] <Adantan_Alex> there i found it lol
[08:28] <PaulM> my system recognizes the usb hard drive adaptor when it's not plugged into a powered HD, but the moment I power the HD, it disappears from lsub
[08:28] <PaulM> *lsusb
[08:29] <bidget> ok so I hit F6
[08:29] <bidget> and a little boot options thing popped up
[08:29] <bidget> I typed in noapic nolapic
[08:29] <Adantan_Alex> downloading the CD again lol
[08:29] <bidget> annnd it just booted me into my xp installation
[08:29] <bidget> should I be typing something else corbinfox?
[08:29] <CorbinFox> hmm
[08:30] <bidget> like -noapic
[08:30] <Adantan_Alex> o0
[08:30] <bidget> or something
[08:30] <Adantan_Alex> yeah
[08:30] <huy> tuna: i'm running windows right now.
[08:30] <CorbinFox> i never needed to on my system, but try it.  if that doesnt work then try "noapic noirqdebug"
[08:30] <bidget> I was talking to someone on the forums and they said to try the safe graphics mode but it didnt work either
[08:30] <CorbinFox> after that im about useless :P
[08:30] <huy> tuna: for the last 2 hours, ubuntu crashed 3 times on me. i need to finish my work
[08:30] <bidget> ok brb we'll see how it goes :D
[08:32] <tuna> huy: k. next time you start ubuntu, go straight to look at /var/log/kern.log. usually it tells you what caused it there
[08:32] <huy> with gedit right?
[08:33] <huy> tuna: with gedit right?
[08:33] <CorbinFox> huy: sudo gedit pathname
[08:33] <adrian_2002ca> hi, any hope of getting compiz to work on a SiS 315 card?
[08:33] <CorbinFox> that should do it
[08:33] <tuna> huy, yeah
[08:34] <w5> kk
[08:35] <k0rvin> hi 2 all, when I download some files by wget -c <url>, every 2-3 seconds it stops with message "progress.c:972: create_image: The verifying statement `p - bp->buffer <= bp->width' is not executed." but Opera normaly downloads same files. Can you say something about this problem?
[08:35] <bidget> so I got a little farther :D
[08:35] <huy> tuna: thanks. i'll boot into ubuntu now
[08:35] <CorbinFox> oh? details!
[08:35] <bidget> until it said KERNEL PANIC vfs unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(8,1)
[08:35] <bidget> there was something else between vfs and unable but I forget
[08:35] <bidget> mighta said sync in there somewhere
[08:35] <bidget> but you get the idea right
[08:36] <CorbinFox> bidget: and that was with nolapic or noirqdebug?
[08:36] <bidget> yeah
[08:36] <bidget> no actually
[08:36] <bidget> it was with noapic noirqdebug
[08:36] <adrian_2002ca> anyone,  is there any hope of getting compiz to run on a SIS315 or should I just give up forever?
[08:36] <bidget> not nolapic
[08:36] <bidget> um dude Im pretty sure you cant get anything to run on an SIS card
[08:36] <bidget> my girlfriends laptop has SIS graphics and UGH
[08:37] <greg> bonjour a tous j'ai un souci de resolution d'ecran, je dois etre 800x600 voir moins
[08:37] <adrian_2002ca> bidget: lol, fair enough lol
[08:37] <Frogzoo> !fr | greg
[08:37] <ubotu> greg: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:37] <bidget> well you might get it to run but
[08:37] <bidget> it wouldnt do very well
[08:37] <bidget> at least I wouldnt expect it to anyway
[08:37] <Frogzoo> greg: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[08:37] <adrian_2002ca> bidget: can i get it to direct render at least
[08:37] <bidget> Im no linux expert all I really know is how to log in and change directories and move and copy stuff lol
[08:37] <bidget> you're asking the wrong guy man sorry
[08:38] <bidget> all I know is SIS graphics = LOW performance
[08:38] <adrian_2002ca> lol...tru tru
[08:38] <CorbinFox> bidget: if you didnt try noirqdebug yet then try that.  when i used nolapic i was able to install and boot but my hardware was acting up (like USB ports not working)
[08:38] <BuddyChrist> How can I edit grub (permanently) to load "root (hd1,0)" instead of "root (hd0,0)"?
[08:38] <CorbinFox> bidget: but noirqdebug got it to install and run properly.  i have no issues yet
[08:38] <bidget> no I tried noirqdebug
[08:38] <CorbinFox> hmm
[08:38] <bidget> I typed in "noapic noirqdebug"
[08:38] <bidget> and it got a bit farther, at least my monitor didnt shut off this time haha
[08:39] <bidget> so I could at least see the error message
[08:39] <CorbinFox> well, at this point i become useless. sorry
[08:39] <bidget> alright well thanks anyway man
[08:39] <bidget> I'm going to try that alternate cd, we'll see if that works
[08:39] <CorbinFox> good luck
[08:39] <bidget> or should I maybe try the new 8.0 version?
[08:39] <bidget> my video card is kinda new maybe its not supported in this 7.10 version?
[08:39] <CorbinFox> try it
[08:39] <greg> Frogzoo> mon terminal ne souvre pas
[08:39] <bidget> hmm
[08:40] <hp> tuna: i logged into ubuntu, what should i be looking for?
[08:40] <CorbinFox> i didnt need to do any noapic stuff with 8.04 for some reason
[08:40] <CorbinFox> so perhaps it boots better
[08:40] <bidget> hmmm I see
[08:40] <bidget> well I'll give it a shot
[08:40] <bidget> if Im not back soon
[08:40] <bidget> then it means I was successful :D
[08:40] <CorbinFox> okay then, hope it works
[08:40] <bidget> or I smashed my monitor with a hammer
[08:40] <bidget> most likely the former though
[08:40] <CorbinFox> hope the first
[08:40] <bidget> thanks for the help though :)
[08:40] <CorbinFox> no problem
[08:41] <tuna> hp: what is the last entry in the log before your current login?
[08:41] <tuna> huy: what is the last entry in the log before your current login?
[08:41] <tuna> hmm
[08:41] <Adantan_Alex> !spam
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[08:42] <Adantan_Alex> !pm
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[08:42] <Adantan_Alex> answered some things
[08:42] <hp> tuna: actually, after the crashed, i logged in again, but wifi didn't work, so now it's like a mess in the log, i'm trying to find the last log in
[08:44] <Adantan_Alex> will ubuntu run on a 256 megabyte ram?
[08:44] <bidget> ok so the alternate cd iso is downloading
[08:44] <bidget> should be done in 25 minutes or so
[08:45] <geirha> !requirements | Adantan_Alex
[08:45] <ubotu> Adantan_Alex: Hardware requirements to install, boot and comfortably use Ubuntu are listed at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements - For a !flavor with lower requirements, see !Xubuntu
[08:45] <Adantan_Alex> thanks
[08:45] <kikr> Hi, how can I flush the dns?
[08:46] <bidget> so if I download the alternate cd
[08:46] <bidget> what exactly does that mean?
[08:46] <ryo> where am i?
[08:46] <bidget> you'
[08:46] <bidget> re in #ubuntu
[08:46] <jaffarkelshac> what do you mean ryo i would have thougt you came here
[08:46] <sayap_ikarus_> afa
[08:46] <CorbinFox> bidget" the alternate cd is just text based, but it has more compatibility to run the install from
[08:47] <bidget> ah I see
[08:47] <bidget> probably a little more complicated to install too then right
[08:47] <Adantan_Alex> um
[08:47] <Adantan_Alex> if i unstall ubuntu
[08:47] <CorbinFox> a little bit.  but it isn't bad
[08:47] <bidget> cool
[08:47] <bidget> well as long as it installs
[08:47] <Adantan_Alex> can i install xubuntu after i install ubuntu?
[08:47] <bidget> hmmm
[08:47] <Adantan_Alex> just encase of a mess up?
[08:48] <CorbinFox> perhaps the most trouble you will have is choosing video card drivers from the list, but that shouldbt be a problem
[08:48] <Adantan_Alex> |
[08:48] <geirha> Adantan_Alex: yes, you just install xubuntu-desktop
[08:48] <mike_> bidget: what machine are you installing on?
[08:48] <bidget> a desktop
[08:48] <Adantan_Alex> yes but i want to see if ubuntu will work
[08:48] <ryo> no i dont
[08:48] <Adantan_Alex> if it doesnt can i then install xubuntu?
[08:48] <bidget> mike_: its a home built computer its not a laptop or a dell or something if thats what you mean
[08:48] <arooni__> when installing software from source where your distro has a package (but you need something fresher) ... is it generally good practice to use the option ./configure -prefix=/usr ?  what happens if you dont use this option?
[08:49] <jaffarkelshac> ryo are you still not sure where you are?
[08:49] <SkinnYPupp> just add xubuntu-desktop and you choose which to lauch at login
[08:49] <geirha> Adantan_Alex: have you checked if the ubuntu CD boots?
[08:49] <CorbinFox> bidget: what is your video card brand?
[08:49] <bidget> evga
[08:49] <Adantan_Alex> the live CD wont boot properly because i got 256 megabytes of ram so i downloaded the alternate XD
[08:50] <geirha> arooni__: no, good practice is putting it in /usr/local or /opt/something so it doesn't interfere with the package system
[08:50] <ryo> yeah' srry i,m out!
[08:50] <bidget> its an evga geforce 8800gt
[08:50] <Adantan_Alex> bye
[08:50] <Adantan_Alex> ok
[08:50] <mike_> bidget: ok... i had troubles on my laptop.
[08:50] <hp> tuna: can't find it, nvm
[08:50] <arooni__> geirha, so putting in /usr is bad?
[08:50] <hp> tuna: i'll check it next time i have a crash
[08:50] <SkinnYPupp> Boot/install xubuntu then add gnome if you want regular ubuntu
[08:50] <Adantan_Alex> hi
[08:50] <Adantan_Alex> ok
[08:50] <CorbinFox> bidget: i think you should use the nvidia drivers first when it prompts you for it, and if that doenst work i think vesa drivers are the alternative.  i may be wrong tho
[08:51] <Adantan_Alex> ok whos helping me?
[08:51] <bidget> but I mean dont just take my word that its the graphics card thats the problem... that was just my theory lol
[08:51] <SkinnYPupp> I was ...
[08:51] <bidget> yeah but how can I pick nvidia drivers if as soon as I tell it to install it crashes
[08:51] <Adantan_Alex> lol thanks
[08:51] <bidget> before I even get to any menus or anything
[08:51] <SkinnYPupp> lol wakeup
[08:51] <Adantan_Alex> so i downloaded ubuntu for nothing? lol
[08:51] <geirha> arooni__: yes, /usr/local is specifically for self-compiled stuff. /usr/local/bin is also set first in $PATH
[08:51] <CorbinFox> bidget: i am not saying that is, just saying that when that step comes up is all :P
[08:51] <mike_> bidget: have a built in card?
[08:51] <SkinnYPupp> you don't need both iso's you can even add kde through synaptic
[08:51] <bidget> no its an evga geforce 8800gt
[08:52] <Adantan_Alex> !xubuntu
[08:52] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels
[08:52] <SkinnYPupp> you choose session type at login once installed
[08:52] <arooni__> geirha, so should i always use that option when compiling & installing software?  what happens if i dont?
[08:52] <mike_> do you have a builtin card on your mb
[08:52] <bidget> no
[08:52] <Adantan_Alex> OMG lol
[08:52] <geirha> Adantan_Alex: it's probably easier to install xubuntu, and then try to run gnome
[08:52] <ikonia> n
[08:52] <Adantan_Alex> yes.... i will download xubuntu
[08:52] <Adantan_Alex> does that have a live CD?
[08:53] <ikonia> oops
[08:53] <geirha> arooni__: then you mix your own files with the package system's files, making it a hell to clean up. It will probably work, but it's much cleaner to put it in /usr/local
[08:53] <SkinnYPupp> or logout and login backin with a different display manager i.e. xfce or kde or gnome and you can swap using ctl alt f7 f8 f9 with all 3 switchable like that
[08:53] <ikonia> geirha: very wise
[08:53] <geirha> Adantan_Alex: yes
[08:54] <arooni__> geirha, is it the end of the world if i put it in /usr?
[08:54] <arooni__> geirha, so most configure scripts have a -path option to set /usr/local ?
[08:54] <SkinnYPupp> Adantan_Alex:http://www.xubuntu.org/
[08:54] <bidget> I think there is a conspiracy trying to keep me from installing linux
[08:55] <CorbinFox> bidget: bill gates is conspiring against you!
[08:55] <bidget> lol I think he just might be
[08:56] <jaffarkelshac> which of the two is better kde or gnome
[08:56] <bidget> I had vista the other day I just installed xp tonight cause I want to dualboot xp and ubuntu
[08:56] <kelvin911> hi
[08:56] <geirha> arooni__: it's not the end of the world, I just recommend you not to do it ;) /usr/local/ is usually the default path, so simply running ./configure should be enough
[08:56] <geirha> arooni__: though always read the README file
[08:56] <bidget> and it was weird, I went to the ubuntu forums to look up some stuff, hard drive crashes lol
[08:56] <Adantan_Alex> DAMN
[08:56] <Adantan_Alex> soz for caps
[08:56] <kelvin911> who read the README file?
[08:56] <mike_> bidget: not your day
[08:56] <Adantan_Alex> !requirements
[08:56] <ubotu> Hardware requirements to install, boot and comfortably use Ubuntu are listed at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements - For a !flavor with lower requirements, see !Xubuntu
[08:56] <CorbinFox> bidget: my new laptop will be coming with vista.  i will try it out for a bit, but i am totally downgrading to XP
[08:56] <Adantan_Alex> oops
[08:56] <arooni__> geirha, i already did the install :P  ... i didnt even know it was important to run that path option   ... oh so its usually default
[08:56] <sooooooooooooooo> so does anyone know of any load balancer software that automatically syncs the file system ?
[08:56] <arooni__> thtats ogod
[08:56] <Adantan_Alex> !dual boot
[08:56] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[08:56] <Adantan_Alex> there
[08:57] <bidget> I used vista for.... I dunno like 6 months I guess
[08:57] <kelvin911> CorbinFox: dont down grade to XP
[08:57] <kelvin911> CorbinFox: just install ubuntu
[08:57] <bidget> had no problems really until the other night when my computer randomly restarted and deleted my user profile
[08:57] <bidget> then corrupted the boot partition
[08:57] <Adantan_Alex> dude have windows XP and ubuntu
[08:57] <bidget> hence installing windows xp lol
[08:57] <SkinnYPupp> Oh forget dual boot, just get some ram and run winders in vmwareserver
[08:57] <CorbinFox> heh, i agree man, but i alreayd have the liscence.  might as well use it
[08:58] <Ademan> has anyone noticed launching evolution seems to crash gnome-panel ?
[08:58] <bidget> yeah but the reason I am dualbooting is so I can play a few games and I heard that vmware is quite a performance hit
[08:58] <CorbinFox> also i use it as a sort of storage partition.  right now i have XP dual boot, and all my files are there.
[08:58] <CorbinFox> if ubuntu were to die due to my fiddling with it
[08:58] <CorbinFox> my files are easily recovered wtihout effort
[08:58] <SkinnYPupp> bidget: in that case yes
[08:58] <bidget> yeah thats really my only reason
[08:58] <bidget> although I am going to try out wine
[08:58] <bidget> and see if I can play cs source and starcraft and stuff
[08:59] <bidget> I did some reading and Ive heard that they are quite playable with wine
[08:59] <CorbinFox> i guess im lucky...the only game i play on my computer is UT 2004 and that works great under linux
[08:59] <bidget> ah yeah
[08:59] <geirha> bidget: starcraft works well with wine at least :)
[08:59] <bidget> yeah
[08:59] <SkinnYPupp> I haven't played with wine in a long time
[08:59] <bidget> well I know starcraft does and I was looking at wine and they say that cs source will work, but I dunno how well
[08:59] <bidget> if it doesnt work that well... well, I have xp to play it on anyway
[09:00] <Riot777> xp is overrated
[09:00] <bidget> although I dont want to be dependant on windows so Im trying to switch lol
[09:00] <Riot777> good choice !
[09:00] <greg> rebonjour a tousj'ai toujours un probleme de resolution d'ecran et mon terminal ne veux pas fonctionner, il s'ouvre mais je ne peux rien ecrire
[09:00] <CorbinFox> i dont care what operating system i am using if the game is full screen
[09:00] <bidget> yeah
[09:00] <CorbinFox> as long as it runs
[09:00] <kelvin911> bidget: play et
[09:00] <kelvin911> bidget: cs sucks
[09:00] <bidget> I hated enemy territory
[09:01] <Frogzoo> !fr | greg
[09:01] <ubotu> greg: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:01] <Riot777> play urban terror if you like cs mood
[09:01] <bidget> although I actually prefer day of defeat over cs now anyway I was just using that as an example
[09:01] <Riot777> it's also free
[09:01] <Riot777> as et
[09:01] <bidget> yeah but
[09:01] <bidget> I already own a steam account
[09:01] <bidget> so thats kind of irrelevant lol
[09:01] <kelvin911> bidget: why hate et?
[09:01] <bidget> I dunno I just didnt like it
[09:01] <bidget> I guess I dont hate it
[09:01] <bidget> I just didnt like it
[09:01] <jaffarkelshac> is anyone playing source or battlefield with wine
[09:01] <Riot777> yeah I know, I like to play cs from time to time too and it works great on wine
[09:01] <Riot777> not counting "windows anticheats programs" ofc
[09:01] <kelvin911> bidget: et is way more fun than cs
[09:02] <Slart> jaffarkelshac: I think source games are pretty well supported on wine
[09:02] <bidget> thats an opinion lol
[09:02] <code_kill> why is it, on the live cd, i had sound. now with full install, can't get sound to work?
[09:02] <jaffarkelshac> Slart, i mean source the game
[09:02] <kelvin911> i think i will try out urban terror later
[09:02] <kelvin911> is it in the synaptic?
[09:02] <Riot777> nope
[09:02] <Riot777> it's on site
[09:02] <jaffarkelshac> is there any games for ubuntu apart from the ones that is installed with it.
[09:02] <kelvin911> oh
[09:03] <Riot777> urbanterror.net
[09:03] <Slart> jaffarkelshac: you're not talking about the half-life engine?
[09:03] <Riot777> it has linux installer
[09:03] <bidget> well jeff there are games that are supported on linux
[09:03] <Riot777> it's a quallity game really
[09:03] <jaffarkelshac> Slart, i was
[09:03] <code_kill> youknow what i want to do?
[09:03] <bidget> hmm?
[09:03] <code_kill> make a website for ubuntu, with every driver possible for it.
[09:03] <jaffarkelshac> is there a game like that that is soley made for linux without using wine
[09:04] <Slart> jaffarkelshac: that's what I thought..... it's still pretty well supported on wine
[09:04] <bidget> ah that would be nice haha
[09:04] <bagus> hi
[09:04] <code_kill> then seperate it by product, branch out
[09:04] <jaffarkelshac> Slart, good
[09:04] <bidget> jeff, a game like what?
[09:04] <code_kill> dumb it down even. no searching net, only site
[09:04] <Riot777> linux-gamers.net happypenguin.org linuxgames.com ?
[09:04] <bagus> huh
[09:04] <Riot777> about the games sites :d
[09:05] <sooooooooooooooo> so does anyone know of any load balancer software that automatically syncs the file system ?
[09:05] <code_kill> bidget, you talking to me..."tht would be nice?"
[09:05] <bidget> yeah haha
[09:05] <jaffarkelshac> jaffarkelshac, like battlefield 2, freelancer, any games thats not like chess and checkers that i can play on ubuntu
[09:05] <code_kill> let's do it!
[09:05] <Riot777> there's also big linux games list at @ icculus.org but I think not updated for a while
[09:05] <Riot777> native games ofc
[09:05] <bidget> well I dunno about games like that but I play eve online and it works for windows osx and linux
[09:05] <code_kill> we help each other search for them, then build it....
[09:05] <kelvin911> jaffarkelshac: et is made for linux
[09:05]  * CorbinFox thinks the only linux game needed is UT2004 :P
[09:05] <CVD-PR> can someone share the firefox beta5 linux, i think the servers are down
[09:05] <code_kill> "if we build it, geeks will come"!
[09:05] <bidget> true
[09:05] <bidget> lol
[09:06] <jaffarkelshac> kelvin911, a game called et, never heard of it
[09:06] <jaffarkelshac> kelvin911, will check it out
[09:06] <Slart> et = Enemy Territory
[09:06] <kelvin911> jaffarkelshac: enemy territory
[09:06] <code_kill> crap! i just want sound to work:(
[09:06] <kelvin911> jaffarkelshac: wolf et not et quake war
[09:06] <bidget> yeah just google enemy territory you will ginf it
[09:06] <Slart> the same people that now released Enemy Territory: Quake Wars, afaik
[09:07] <kelvin911> but et quake war isnt free
[09:07] <fernyology> hi
[09:07] <jaffarkelshac> kelvin911, is this in repository
[09:07] <kelvin911> maybe there are crack server
[09:07] <bidget> yeah only wolfenstein et
[09:07] <kelvin911> jaffarkelshac: et is not in respository i think
[09:07] <bidget> I think you probably have to download it from their homepage
[09:08] <jaffarkelshac> any other games like et
[09:08] <kelvin911> there is a .run file for et i think
[09:08] <kelvin911> it's in their site
[09:08] <Riot777> well not everything is in repositories you just must live with it
[09:08] <kelvin911> jaffarkelshac: i like et
[09:09] <kelvin911> jaffarkelshac: maybe urban terror?
[09:09] <jaffarkelshac> cheets kelvin911
[09:09] <sami> Is there any way to make a debian package that runs a script after install?
[09:09] <mmm4m5m> tuna: flash plugin installed for one used. thank you. strange, but it was easy... Initially I got confused because there is no ~/.mozilla/plugins folder, I created that folder and it works
[09:09] <kelvin911> jaffarkelshac: in add/remove u can find openarena
[09:09] <CVD-PR> ?
[09:09] <ikonia> sami: the post section
[09:09] <kelvin911> jaffarkelshac: and like quake 3 liked games
[09:09] <sami> i meant ubuntu package
[09:09] <mmm4m5m> tuna: *for one user
[09:10] <Slart> sami: it has to be.. most packages do that, it seems
[09:10] <tuna> mmm4m5m: no problemo.
[09:10] <sami> ikonia, in the control file?
[09:10] <ikonia> sami: yes
[09:10] <jaffarkelshac> installing that with aptitude
[09:11] <sami> I'v never made an deb package. Friggin hate debian and ubuntu. But nooo we have to work with that at work.
[09:11] <kelvin911> jaffarkelshac: and also Nexuiz
[09:12] <CorbinFox> bidget: how is the download going?
[09:12] <kelvin911> there is also game that is similar to flight simulator
[09:12] <kelvin911> and simcity2000
[09:13] <kelvin911> flightgear and opencity
[09:13] <jaffarkelshac> i dont much take to simcity
[09:13] <kelvin911> and frozen bubble is fun too
[09:13] <Riot777> warsow & cube, assault cube, open arena
[09:14] <Riot777> also are good games :d
[09:14] <DOOM_NX> what's the simplest way to share files between host and guest OS on vmware server? ubuntu host, winxp guest
[09:14] <Riot777> virtualbox DOOM_NX
[09:14] <Riot777> =]
[09:14] <sam002> test...
[09:14] <kelvin911> DOOM_NX ?
[09:14] <kelvin911> doom1, 2, or 3?
[09:15] <Riot777> nope
[09:15] <Riot777> I was answering him
[09:15] <CVD-PR> share
[09:15] <jaffarkelshac> cheers Riot777
[09:15] <kelvin911> oh
[09:15] <kelvin911> i thought there is a new doom game
[09:15] <kelvin911> i cant miss doom game
[09:15] <knightWse> hey guyz , i've just configured some virtual IP adresses on my Ubuntu box , but how can I set them to activate at boot ?
[09:15] <Riot777> vmware server haven't got any good option except "samba sharing" for sharing files between os and virtual os
[09:16] <sooooooooooooooo> so does anyone know of any load balancer software that automatically syncs the file system ?
[09:16] <knightWse> Riot777, you can install the vmware tools if you want to
[09:16] <Riot777> I would recommend you really good, fast, virtualisation software called VirtualBox it has such option without installing stuff DOOM_NX
[09:16] <Riot777> www.virtualbox.org
[09:16] <Riot777> it's faster than vmware and qemu
[09:16] <Riot777> even
[09:17] <Riot777> rocket I would say :d
[09:17] <DOOM_NX> Riot777, yes
[09:17] <DOOM_NX> i used to use that
[09:17] <DOOM_NX> but
[09:17] <putergirl> .
[09:18] <DOOM_NX> i can't forward ports to virtual machine's applications
[09:18] <DOOM_NX> in vmware i can use bridged network
[09:18] <DOOM_NX> plus it says: Choose VM > Settings > Options > Shared Folders
[09:18] <DOOM_NX> no shared folders anyway
[09:18] <DOOM_NX> anywhere*
[09:18] <guillermo> whats the difference between vmware player and server?
[09:19] <Riot777> well you could try virtualbox again if it was some period ago cause it's often updated (new releases every now and then)
[09:19] <DOOM_NX> it's the last version
[09:19] <Riot777> ah :d
[09:19] <yuri_> my sound randomly gave out... how do i restart the sound server without restarting the laptop?
[09:19] <DOOM_NX> do u know how can i port forward?
[09:19] <guillermo> ok
[09:20] <Riot777> DOOM_NX: http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?t=246
[09:20] <happyfeet> server/ irc.r3blog.nl
[09:20] <Riot777> ?
[09:20] <Riot777> try looking on this forum
[09:20] <Riot777> it has plenty of help
[09:21] <Riot777> maybe it's not to good topic but search there it could help alot
[09:21] <Riot777> it has many topics about port forwarding
[09:22] <DOOM_NX> :(
[09:22] <DOOM_NX> i'll try
[09:25] <phoenixzz> ?
[09:25] <eisenhower> to run a program from terminal. how come i have to do this '/home/<username>/main'   instead of just main if i'm already in that directory ?
[09:26] <Acomaco> How can i select all ports from 0 to 79 with iptables?
[09:26] <prolix_> eisenhower: because the file permissions aren't set.
[09:26] <eisenhower> where and how would i set them?
[09:27] <Riot777> man chmod
[09:27] <DistroJockey> eisenhower: try putting  ./   infront of the program name
[09:27] <prolix_> eisenhower: cd to the file then: chmod 755
[09:27] <DistroJockey> eisenhower: when in the main directory that is
[09:27] <eisenhower> gotcha
[09:28] <eisenhower> well main is the program*
[09:28] <eisenhower> but aite
[09:28] <DistroJockey> ahh
[09:28] <cow^ceng_li> surabaya
[09:28] <festus> I'm having trouble with clonezilla... It reaches 30GB copying but then says that there is no more space when there is 150GB free... Can anybody help me?
[09:28] <knightWse> does anybody know how to set a network interface to activate at boot time ?
[09:29] <damo22> knightWse: might be a flag in bios
[09:29] <prolix_> knightWse: look in /etc/init.d/
[09:30] <knightWse> prolix_,  Did that , but do i need to configure an extra flag ?
[09:30] <damo22> knightWse: do you mean boot via LAN?
[09:30] <Lo_Pan> knightWse: /etc/network/interfaces
[09:31] <knightWse> Lo_Pan, I went there , i configured some 34 virtual ip's, now i need to have them activate at boot time
[09:32] <Lo_Pan> auto eth0
[09:32] <Lo_Pan> etc
[09:32] <damo22> auto eth0
[09:32] <damo22> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[09:32] <damo22> etc
[09:33] <stefano> hello everybody. i've read the changelog of the kernel packages of today's upgrades of Hardy. It says: Added openvz to i386/amd64 meta dependencies. What does it mean?
[09:33] <stefano> is openvz a part of the official kernel now?
[09:33] <knightWse> found it :) need to put the name of the device behind "auto"
[09:33] <compwiz18> !hardy | ste
[09:33] <ubotu> ste: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[09:33] <compwiz18> !hardy | stefano
[09:33] <ubotu> stefano: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[09:33] <damo22> knightWse: yep
[09:33] <jengelh> stefano: no
[09:33] <knightWse> thanx guyz
[09:34] <stefano> ok, moving to #ubuntu+1
[09:35] <phoenixzz> does anybody know how to mount my /dev/hda2 automatically each time when boot
[09:35] <Slart> phoenixzz: insert a line into /etc/fstab
[09:36] <Adantan_Alex> ok i downloaded it
[09:36] <Adantan_Alex> lol
[09:37] <Adantan_Alex> yo
[09:38] <Adantan_Alex> o0
[09:38] <Adantan_Alex> ok
[09:38] <Adantan_Alex> !dual boot
[09:38] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[09:38] <Adantan_Alex> ok
[09:39] <festus> What are the advantages of a 64bit machine?
[09:39] <bengb> you can address more memory
[09:40] <Adantan_Alex> hey is it ok if i put 20 gigabytes to xubuntu?
[09:40] <festus> thanks
[09:40] <Adantan_Alex> well?
[09:40] <Adantan_Alex> !help
[09:40] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:41] <happy_tux> how do you mean 20 gb to xubuntu?
[09:41] <happy_tux> that will be more than enough
[09:41] <Adantan_Alex> 20 gigabytes space for ubuntu and 60 gigabytes for the rest of the drive
[09:41] <bengb> How can I make a directory writable by everyone but not readable?
[09:41] <happy_tux> quite enough
[09:41] <Adantan_Alex> im dual booting windows and ubuntu
[09:41] <bengb> yes 20GB is enough
[09:42] <bengb> I have an eee with 4GB for xubuntu
[09:42] <cew> haii
[09:42] <Adantan_Alex> XD ok
[09:42] <cew> hai8i
[09:42] <Adantan_Alex> !dual boot
[09:42] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[09:42] <cew> haii
[09:42] <Adantan_Alex> there
[09:42] <Adantan_Alex> hi
[09:42] <cew> haiii
[09:42] <happy_tux> Why dual boot, by the way ..... ever worked with VirtualBox ?
[09:42] <bengb> I need to create folders for users, I want everyone to be able to write to the folders. I don't want everyone to be able to write/delete or list files in the folders though.
[09:43] <bengb> I just want the folders owner to be able to read/delete
[09:44] <bengb> I hoped that wrxwrx-w-
[09:44] <bengb> would work, but it doesn't
[09:44] <cew> haii
[09:44] <cew> haii
[09:44] <cew> haii
[09:45] <cew> haii
[09:45] <happy_tux> Since I discovered VirtualBox, I don't need dedicated windows machines anymore. Even got my wife using Linux now!
[09:45] <cew> haiii
[09:45] <cew> haii
[09:45] <dgjones> cew, please don't do that in the channel
[09:45] <cew> haiui
[09:45] <bengb> I guess it's one of those things you can't do in linux
[09:45] <Adantan_Alex> ok burning
[09:45] <cew> haii
[09:46] <happy_tux> bengb, what is it that you want again?
[09:46] <happy_tux> share folders with what kind of users?
[09:46] <happy_tux> windows users?
[09:47] <bengb> I want to make a directory for each user on my network. I want them to be able to rwx, and everyone else to just be able to write to the folder
[09:47] <bengb> so that people can drop files into their folder
[09:47] <bengb> but can't view what's in the folder
[09:47] <bengb> using samba
[09:47] <jesse__> does anybody know of a packaged command-line base64 encoder/decoder?
[09:47] <happy_tux> ah, right, and not able to delete?
[09:47] <bengb> yes
[09:47] <compwiz18> bengb: theoretically, you can make the folders contents writable, but not reaable
[09:47] <happy_tux> like ntfs
[09:47] <bengb> it doesn't work
[09:47] <bengb> tried it
[09:47] <bengb> rwxrwx-w-
[09:48] <bengb> rwxrwxrw-
[09:48] <bengb> both don't work
[09:48] <bengb> I can't write to the folder
[09:48] <happy_tux> nope, doesn't work
[09:48] <happy_tux> I had the same problem
[09:48] <bengb> no solution:?
[09:48] <happy_tux> never found anything to resolve that
[09:48] <happy_tux> nope
[09:48] <bengb> it's really easy on a windows server
[09:49] <happy_tux> yep, with ntfs
[09:49] <bengb> indeed
[09:49] <jesse__> does anybody know of a package that will let me do base-64 encoding/decoding?
[09:49] <happy_tux> ext3 doesn't have those 'special' things
[09:50] <happy_tux> there might be a different format though, which can do the trick
[09:50] <happy_tux> let me see .....
[09:50] <compwiz18> i'm pretty sure it can be done
[09:50] <jaffarkelshac> kelvin911, i installed open arena, but there is no icon any where, i had to make a launcher for it.
[09:50] <compwiz18> somehow
[09:50] <redheat> hi everyone
[09:50] <gholen> So, can anyone tell me if there is any advatage at all, installing the 64 bits ubuntu version?
[09:50] <bengb> i tried converting a win2k server to ubuntu 7.1 server today
[09:51] <bengb> I had to go back to win2k because of this problem
[09:51] <bengb> lucky it was a raid 1 config
[09:51] <bengb> so I just used the mirror to go back to win2k
[09:51] <redheat> folks, if I wanted to download KDE4 but not using a command line, from which program can I do that? synaptic manager or add/remove program?
[09:52] <compwiz18> happy_tux: bengb: you probably will have to make the directory not executable
[09:52] <compwiz18> and set the sticky bit on it
[09:52] <gholen> redheat: Go to KDE website, download it fråm there?
[09:53] <redheat> gholen, you mean I can't download it from ubuntu directry, I mean from within the ubuntu system, and of course thanks for replying
[09:53] <abdoreza> hi all
[09:53] <redheat> hi
[09:53]  * alan_m kisses hardy and waves bye to everyone, going to #ubuntu+1 now :)
[09:53] <erUSUL> !kde4 | redheat
[09:53] <ubotu> redheat: KDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[09:54] <gholen> redheat: I dont know if you can du it from synaptic or that awful program adept, but i'm not sure
[09:54] <happy_tux> but the sticky bit still lets owners delete their own files
[09:54] <_ruben> 4.0.3 is latest .. came out yesterday ;)
[09:54] <redheat> thank you my friend
[09:54] <bengb> compwiz18: if the directory is not executable then you can't create files
[09:55] <happy_tux> bengb: yes you can. as long as its writable
[09:55] <compwiz18> I'd have to agree when bengb
[09:56] <happy_tux> how than?
[09:56] <DEADMAN> Hello
[09:56] <cpk1> how do you generate a .xsession file?
[09:56] <compwiz18> well
[09:56] <DEADMAN> Hello
[09:57] <compwiz18> drwxrwx-wx <-- makes it so you can write files in the directory and read them if you know their name
[09:57] <compwiz18> but you can't get a directory listing
[09:57] <happy_tux> ahhh... right, agree
[09:57] <gholen> i repet my question, is there any advatage at al, using 64 bits support instead of 32 bits?
[09:57] <Frogzoo_> gholen: nope
[09:57] <geektasticgirl> Hi. For some reason my Login screen (GDM), the text is like HUGE... name/password field etc.. any way to correct this?
[09:57] <bengb> that doesn't work with samba
[09:58] <gholen> Frogzoo_: sure?
[09:58] <bengb> it might work on the command line, but it doesn't translate to samba
[09:58] <geektasticgirl> I am using 7.10
[09:59] <DistroJockey> gholen: no real advantage if you have less than 3GB of RAM
[09:59] <erUSUL> gholen: if you have a lot of RAM ( > 3.3 GiB) or if you use numeric intensive workloads i suppose
[09:59] <compwiz18> bengb: what group/user are the folders?
[09:59] <compwiz18> geektasticgirl: sounds like the resolution is too small
[09:59] <compwiz18> as for fixing it...
[09:59] <fraroco> hello everybody.
[09:59] <compwiz18> I don't know
[09:59] <geektasticgirl> compwiz18  I am running at 1920x1080 fine after I log in
[10:00] <bengb> the user is the owner
[10:00] <bengb> and so is the group
[10:00] <compwiz18> geektasticgirl: yeah - I saw some people running hardy having the same problem
[10:00] <bengb> so bengb:bengb:other
[10:00] <geektasticgirl> the screen seems right size , (login screen) but the text is just too huge for the fields, parts of the font get chopped off
[10:00] <erUSUL> gholen: i'm using 64 bit right know and i do not see any big drawback but people has problems with flash stability and such. also you loose the java firefox plugin
[10:00] <Silicium> hi there
[10:00] <bengb> rwx:rwx:-wx
[10:00] <fraroco> how to rip a cd with juicer with a mp3 quality?
[10:00] <bengb> can't create files/folders
[10:01] <bengb> perhaps samba tries to get a folder listing before it creates the file
[10:01] <Silicium> iam searching for the isolinux patches for ubuntu installer, or for a solution to change the font color on the Ubunu Installer Menu (isolinux bootmenu)
[10:01] <compwiz18> bengb: can you set up permissions in samba for the folders?
[10:01] <pclynch> what is compiz? and is it default for ubuntu install?
[10:01] <compwiz18> !compiz | pclynch
[10:01] <ubotu> pclynch: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[10:01] <knightWse> i get the following error : does anybody have an idea : /etc/network/interfaces:6: misplaced option
[10:01] <happy_tux> yep. I think the Read overrules the Write
[10:01] <erUSUL> fraroco: install gstreamer mp3 encoding support (lame et al) i think the  ubuntu-restricted-extras includes it
[10:01] <compwiz18> knightWse: we'll need to see your /etc/network/interfaces
[10:01] <compwiz18> !pastebin | knightWse
[10:01] <ubotu> knightWse: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[10:01] <bengb> I can set some permisions
[10:01] <jaffarkelshac> i am learning scripts, export PATH=$PATH:directory to add the path so i dont keep using ./script to run scripts. but the path is deleted when i close terminal
[10:01] <knightWse> holdon
[10:02] <geektasticgirl> make sure to download the Advanced Desktop Effets Settings program for Compiz
[10:02] <geektasticgirl> Effects*
[10:02] <erUSUL> jaffarkelshac: put it on one of the bash init scripts.. ~/.profile or ~/.bashrc
[10:02] <bengb> I just did a test on the command line and it behaves the way I want, but under samba it didn't
[10:03] <compwiz18> jaffarkelshac: (and don't post it in multiple channels at once, please :)
[10:03] <icesword> find mysql API
[10:03] <happy_tux> what about nfs?
[10:03] <icesword> !find mysql API
[10:03] <ubotu> Found: Segmentation
[10:03] <geektasticgirl> Anyone know how to make the fonts smaller on login screen? They are too huge for the fields
[10:03] <happy_tux> no option?
[10:03] <geektasticgirl> i was fine, then got a new monitor and ran nvidia-setings, created a new xorg.conf etc
[10:03] <bengb> haven't tried that
[10:04] <geektasticgirl> i am running at 1920x1080
[10:04] <happy_tux> do you need it for windows shares?
[10:04] <erUSUL> geektasticgirl: gdm uses the first resolution it finds on xorg.conf i think
[10:04] <geektasticgirl> on a 40" samsung 1080p hd tv heh
[10:04] <TuoDrable> hello!
[10:04] <Slart> geektasticgirl: isn't there some settings in the login preferences?
[10:04] <geektasticgirl> lemme see slart
[10:04] <bengb> yeah, so nfs is out of the question
[10:04] <pclynch> how do i turn off compiz (i need to because of nvidia bugs) :|
[10:04] <bengb> it's for winxp clients
[10:04] <TuoDrable> I'm trying out the new hardy hennon beta
[10:04] <geektasticgirl> right click on desktop
[10:04] <erUSUL> geektasticgirl: also check System>Preferences>Login screen
[10:04] <TuoDrable> could somebody help me out with my sound please?
[10:05] <compwiz18> !hardy | TuoDrable
[10:05] <ubotu> TuoDrable: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[10:05] <geektasticgirl> click change desktop backgroundn, go to visual effects
[10:05] <TuoDrable> ok ;)
[10:05] <compwiz18> shouldn't 100Mbit ethernet get more then 2 Mbps?
[10:05] <geektasticgirl> erUSUL: System->Admin-> Login Window?
[10:05] <code_kill> never believe this...lol
[10:05] <erUSUL> compwiz18: sure
[10:06] <compwiz18> erUSUL: I thought so
[10:06] <erUSUL> geektasticgirl: yeah my desktop is spanish XD
[10:06] <Slart> compwiz18: well.. yes it should.. if there is something capable of feeding it at a higher speed
[10:06] <compwiz18> Slart: transfering files over sftp on a wired lan?
[10:06] <erUSUL> compwiz18: yesterday i transfer some files peaks of 8 MB (theorical max is 12 MB)
[10:07] <Slart> compwiz18: do you get the same speed using regular ftp?
[10:07] <compwiz18> I wonder if I have a funky ethernet cable somewhere
[10:07] <geektasticgirl> erUSUL what am i looking for
[10:07] <compwiz18> Slart: I dunno, I only run ssh on these computers
[10:07] <erUSUL> compwiz18: scp adds crypto/compression overhead....
[10:07] <code_kill> my wife just went to computer room, upstairs. She noticed the vnc server was activated. Someone just exploited it on my win machine, and tried to run a .dll as she watched then got off.  i logged it though. i will get them back.  but isn't that hillarious? catching them in the act? You think they would be smart enough to do it in a capture mode where i can't see you.  lol
[10:07] <geektasticgirl> erUSUL: dont' see anythign for font size
[10:07] <xeer> Hey everyone.. I have a sshfs and nautilus messing up the groups/owners making it read only. how can i fix this?
[10:07] <compwiz18> but I'm pretty sure I got higher speeds previously
[10:08] <compwiz18> I'll try it using netcat in a minute and see if that's faster
[10:08] <Slart> geektasticgirl: at least there is a "allow user to change font etc" check box.. I've never really played around at the login prompt.. perhaps there is something there
[10:08] <erUSUL> geektasticgirl: :| then check the Mode lines on xorg.conf as i said gdm uses the first resolution of the line
[10:08] <Slart> compwiz18: or just ping with a big packet size
[10:09] <compwiz18> Slart: it doesn't tell me the transfer rate though
[10:09] <geektasticgirl> erUSUL:  Option         "metamodes" "1920x1080_60 +0+0; nvidia-auto-select +0+0"
[10:09] <xeer> how can I modify the permissions of a file that my system doesn't have a group/owner for?
[10:09] <Slart> compwiz18: oh... you can use the system monitor for that.. or any number of small network applets
[10:10] <Slart> compwiz18: there is even a text mode thing called nload
[10:10] <Lamego> compbrain, ftp will report the transfer rate
[10:10] <erUSUL> xeer: with sudo
[10:10] <Slart> !info nload
[10:10] <ubotu> Package nload does not exist in gutsy
[10:10] <Borys> Hello
[10:10] <Lamego> erm, compwiz18
[10:10] <compwiz18> netcat and dd works too :)
[10:10] <erUSUL> !info netperf | Slart ;)
[10:10] <ubotu> slart ;): Package netperf does not exist in gutsy
[10:10] <xeer> erUSUL: when I sudo it doesn't have access to the file
[10:11] <Borys> Anyone could help me configure wifi network with static ip? How can I do it with ifconfig because network-admin doesn't works.
[10:11] <bazhang> nload - A realtime console network usage monitor
[10:11] <erUSUL> xeer: o_0 sudo should have access to any file...
[10:11] <Slart> whatever happened to nload? I can find it using apt-cache search on my box..
[10:11] <ikonia> Slart: checked all the repos ?
[10:11] <erUSUL> Slart: i think that ubotu is buggy this days...
[10:11] <bazhang> no info from the bot
[10:12] <Slart> ikonia: yes.. I can find it on my computer.. but the !info thingy doesn't..
[10:12] <bengb> right
[10:12] <bazhang> info is broken at the moment
[10:12] <Slart> ubotu seems to be having a bad .. well.. a bad month or so
[10:12] <compwiz18> ubotu is broken
[10:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is broken - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:12] <bengb> tested on 2 different servers
[10:12] <bengb> if the directory is drwxrwx-wx
[10:12] <bengb> then i can not enter it
[10:13] <ikonia> bengb: depends on the owner
[10:13] <bengb> if I am not a member of the group or the owner
[10:13] <bengb> using samba
[10:13] <compwiz18> bengb: is that what you want?
[10:13] <bengb> well
[10:13] <ikonia> bengb: then you can't read it
[10:13] <compwiz18> are you sure it isn't a samba option? allow other users to see files or something?
[10:13] <bengb> I should be able to enter the folder right?
[10:13] <ikonia> bengb: no
[10:13] <bengb> but it is x
[10:13] <Lamego> bengb, no, since there is no +r set to others
[10:13] <bengb> and I can enter it on the command line
[10:14] <Lamego> bengb, you need rx
[10:14] <ikonia> bengb: execute is not read
[10:14] <bengb> but I want to be able to write to the folder
[10:14] <bengb> but not read
[10:14] <ikonia> bengb: then set +w
[10:14] <bengb> I did wx
[10:14] <bengb> but it doesn't work under samba
[10:14] <bengb> I can't enter the directory
[10:14] <compwiz18> h
[10:14] <compwiz18> hm
[10:14] <ikonia> bengb: you need to be able read
[10:14] <Slart> can you have a write but not read permission? 0.0
[10:14] <compwiz18> bengb: # Files that have their Linux permissions set to prevent access shouldn't even appear
[10:14] <compwiz18> hide unreadable = yes
[10:15] <bengb> I tried that
[10:15] <compwiz18> # Hide the following files; the client can still choose to alter their view settings to show hidden files.
[10:15] <bengb> but it doesn't help
[10:15] <compwiz18> hide files = /example.txt/*.bad/
[10:15] <compwiz18>  veto files = /*.exe/*.dll/*.com/*.vbs/*.{*}/
[10:15] <compwiz18> using veto files will deny access to the files, apparently
[10:16] <elius> hello, im trying to "apt-get install screen" but ubuntu(server) wants the cdrom and i dont have physical access to the server, is it possibile to install it via the web?
[10:16] <bengb> but then what about the owner of the folder
[10:16] <abhi_> ATTN: PLEASE DONOT INSTALL ADOBE AIR ON UBUNTU. IT'S ONE PIECE OF STUPIDITY. THE DAMN THING HIJACKS .ODT , .ZIP EXTENSIONS AND TRIES TO OPEN THEM!
[10:16] <ikonia> bengb: just giveyour self read access to the directly
[10:16] <bengb> I have many users, who have homes on a samba share
[10:16] <abhi_> any one got any solutions to this problem?
[10:16] <ikonia> abhi_: that behaviour is unaccetpable
[10:16] <Lamego> !caps | abhi_
[10:16] <ubotu> abhi_: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[10:16] <ikonia> abhi_: don't use caps, and don't just make random comments slating things
[10:17] <bengb> they need people to drop files into their home directories without view the contents
[10:17] <LGKeiz01> Whats a good MSN messenger for Ubuntu? :p
[10:17] <abhi_> ikonia: my behaviour or Adobe Air's?
[10:17] <ikonia> abhi_: your behvaiour
[10:17] <ikonia> !coc > abhi_
[10:17] <dgjones> !msn | LGKeiz
[10:17] <ubotu> LGKeiz: The Instant Messenger Client Pidgin (formerly Gaim) (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !Kopete
[10:17] <DistroJockey> elius: comment out the CD/DVD lines in  /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:17] <ikonia> LGKeiz: amsn, pidgen
[10:17] <LGKeiz> Gaim huh
[10:17] <LGKeiz> well.
[10:17] <LGKeiz> AMsn :p
[10:17] <LGKeiz> hmm..
[10:17] <abhi_> ikonia: i know caps aren't allowed but i am trying to highlight a potential problem with Adobe Air for Linux.
[10:18] <ikonia> abhi_: no - your shouting your personal unfounded opinions
[10:18] <elius> DistroJockey: thanks
[10:18] <Slart> abhi_: wrong place, wrong method
[10:18] <ikonia> abhi_: this is a support channel for ubuntu, not air your personal views
[10:18] <DistroJockey> elius: you're welcome
[10:18] <compwiz18> bengb: you could do something tricky with mount -o bind and stuff
[10:18] <compwiz18> but it might be complicated....
[10:18] <bengb> I think this is a samba problem, rather than a ext3 problem
[10:18] <bengb> or I could just use windows ;)
[10:18] <abhi_> ikonia: i think u guys should warn ppl before they install Adobe Air on Ubuntu. this is a seriously annoying problem i'm facing :(
[10:18] <compwiz18> bengb: you can do that too :)
[10:19] <compwiz18> whatever works best
[10:19] <ikonia> abhi_: that YOUR facing, not a problem with adobe air
[10:19] <ikonia> abhi_: it is not ubunti's place to tell people what 3rd party products to install/not install
[10:19] <bengb> well I don't want to use windows, but I feel like I have no choice right now
[10:19] <Slart> abhi_: is Adobe Air available from the repos?
[10:19] <abhi_> ikonia: i know one more person who is facing this problem. i can replicate this problem on other machines
[10:19] <damo22> bengb: what is your problem?
[10:19] <abhi_> Slart: no it's available direct from adobe
[10:20] <compwiz18> abhi_: then there isn't anything we can do abou tit
[10:20] <ikonia> abhi_ then contact adobce and log a bug
[10:20] <compwiz18> about it***
[10:20] <ikonia> abhi_: this is nothing to do with ubuntu.
[10:20] <Slart> abhi_: then tell adobe about it.. they are the ones who can do something about it
[10:20] <abhi_> Slart: ikonia: i did and i'm informing u that there is a serious problem with adobe air
[10:20] <jesse__> !base64
[10:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about base64 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:20] <happy_tux> bengb, what about a seperate ntfs partition?
[10:20] <ikonia> abhi_: #ubuntu does not need to know that
[10:20] <bengb> would that work?
[10:21] <happy_tux> you could acces that with linux and windows
[10:21] <happy_tux> I think it will
[10:21] <damo22> is ntfs writable now in ubuntu?
[10:21] <bengb> this is for a server though
[10:21] <Lamego> damo22, yes
[10:21] <ikonia> abhi_: in YOUR opinion there is a serious problem, that doesn't warrent ocming in here and shouting to the channel your unfounded comments
[10:21] <happy_tux> ntfs is writable, yes
[10:21] <DistroJockey> bengb: maybe this will help? : http://www.visi.com/SubNavContent.aspx?id=1873#chmod
[10:21] <Madpilot> abhi_, there isn't a lot Ubuntu can do about AIR. It's a third party closed-source project...
[10:21] <bengb> it's a headless always on server
[10:21] <compwiz18> ikonia: I don't know how you have it set up, but you could have like "drop folders" and "pickup folders", drop folders being the ones no one can see, and pickup folders being the ones only the owners can log into
[10:22] <compwiz18> and with some creative mount --bind usage, you might be able to pull it off
[10:22] <damo22> because i remember a few months ago it used to damage ntfs partitions if you try to write to it... do you need something special like ntfs-3g?
[10:22] <LGKeiz> How do you ..upgrade to the beta version of Ubuntu ? through terminal.
[10:22] <abhi_> ikonia: dude i shouted quite sometime back. it's over why u stuck on that still? the least u can do is tell other ppl who face a similar problem
[10:22] <ikonia> compwiz18 I'm just trying to found out the rules of having write but not read access to the dir
[10:22] <Lamego> damo22, yes, it uses ntfs-3g
[10:22] <ikonia> abhi_: I'm informing you that that behaviour is unacceptable, for future reference, I'll drop it as soon as you accept it
[10:22] <Lamego> abhi_, sure, just tell it somewhere else :)
[10:23] <LGKeiz> How do you ..upgrade to the beta version of Ubuntu ? through terminal.
[10:23] <damo22> lamego: so when you do   sudo mount -t ntfs ... it actually uses ntfs-3g?
[10:23] <Borys> How to set gateway with ifconfig??
[10:23] <compwiz18> !hardy | LGKeiz
[10:23] <abhi_> Madpilot: u can tell people who face similar problems that this is a known issue at least u won't be dumbfounded if they tell u something like this happened
[10:23] <ubotu> LGKeiz: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[10:23] <abhi_> ikonia: i did say sorry what else u want me to do?
[10:23] <ikonia> Borys: ifconfig uses the "gw" argument for gateway
[10:23] <Borys> thanks
[10:23] <Lamego> damo22, not sure you use -t ntfs or ntfs-3g
[10:23] <s_> does anyone knows how to fix athgina.dll file
[10:23] <compwiz18> abhi_: how do you expect us to tell people? they don't come in here and ask if installing adobe air is a good idea first...
[10:23] <Lamego> Borin, man ifconfig
[10:23] <Madpilot> abhi_, issues with air wouldn't surprise me at all. it's brand-new, just in public beta, and closed-source...
[10:23] <Slart> s_: fix? is it broken?
[10:24] <Borys> ikonia,  gw: Unknown host
[10:24] <abhi_> compwiz18: general knowledge if someone is facing the problem u can tell them it's not new and not to worry!
[10:24] <s_> i cant login
[10:24] <ikonia> Borys: what is your argument your using
[10:24] <compwiz18> abhi_: alright,, we can do that now that we know. thank you.
[10:24] <s_> i cant login in xp
[10:24] <Borys> ifconfig ath0 192.168.1.10 gw 192.168.1.1
[10:24] <Slart> s_: ubuntu doesn't use dll's..
[10:24] <damo22> does anyone know, I want to mount a ntfs partition to be writable, do i use mount -t ntfs or ntfs-3g?
[10:24] <compwiz18> damo22: just leave the -t out
[10:24] <Lamego> abhi_, general kwowledge, if you try a beta produtct, expect problems
[10:24] <Slart> s_: this is the #ubuntu support channel.. we can't help you with windows problems
[10:25] <compwiz18> damo22: it should automatically detect it
[10:25] <compwiz18> s_: try ##windows
[10:25] <ikonia> Borys: set the netmask too
[10:25] <damo22> ok thanks
[10:25] <s_> thx
[10:25] <abhi_> Lamego: never something like this where it hijacks other extensions
[10:25] <ikonia> Borys: you'll get that error then the gateway is unreachable
[10:25] <compwiz18> Borys: sudo ifconfig IPADDY netmask NETMASK <--- where IPADDY and NETMASK are replace with the actually ips
[10:25] <compwiz18> sudo rotue add default gw GATEWAYIP
[10:25] <ikonia> abhi_: can you please stop going on about it, this is nothing to do with ubuntu and of no interest to ubuntu at this moment in time
[10:26] <Lamego> abhi_, sure, there is some beta software even worse, which can cause data loss, extensions can be fixed :)
[10:26] <blinkiz> I have enabled "Remote Desktop" in the GUI found on ubuntu 7.10. Problem is that I can't connect to it. The service crash directly. What todo=
[10:26] <compwiz18> of course, you'll need to fix my typos: sudo ifconfig *eth0* IP.... and route not rotue
[10:26] <abhi_> Lamego: really? how?
[10:27] <Lamego> abhi_, http://ubuntuswitch.blogspot.com/2007/10/ubuntu-file-association-if-you-want-to.html
[10:27] <fraroco> how to rip a cd with juicer with a mp3 quality?
[10:28] <compwiz18> bengb: http://lists.samba.org/archive/samba/2001-November/031321.html maybe that would help?
[10:29] <abhi_> Lamego: thx. but there's a bigger problem? u can't disassociate Adobe AIR from that extension. got a way to do that? :(
[10:29] <compwiz18> abhi_: right click the file, hit properties
[10:30] <compwiz18> abhi_: the open with tab does it for you
[10:30] <abhi_> compiwiz18: yes but i don't want to go with open with i'd rather double clik than navigate thru a menu
[10:30] <compwiz18> abhi_: the open with tab allows you to set the default ;)
[10:31] <ikonia> abhi_: contact adobe for support, they may be able to change you how it changes the behaviour of certain OS's
[10:32] <cristi1990> i can't get the "restricted drivers manager" to open. it says You need to install the package
[10:32] <cristi1990>   linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-generic
[10:32] <cristi1990> for this program to work. But after i install the file i get a few errors  linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic
[10:32] <cristi1990>  linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-14-generic
[10:32] <cristi1990>  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-generic
[10:32] <cristi1990>  nvidia-glx-new
[10:32] <cristi1990> Can someone help?
[10:32] <FloodBot3> cristi1990: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:32] <abhi_> compwiz18: no it doesn't Adobe AIR completely hijacks the extension
[10:32] <abhi_> compwiz18: let me try as root whether it helps
[10:33] <Lamego> abhi_, the term is not "hijacks" but "associates"
[10:33] <ikonia> Lamego: it's probably behaving as it was designed to do
[10:33] <waylandbill> cristi1990: can you pastebin the error output you are getting?
[10:34] <abhi_> Lamego well! :) i prefer to call it the other way because it's annoying
[10:34] <cristi1990> waylandbill: sure one moment
[10:34] <ikonia> abhi_: I'd appriciate it if you didn't
[10:34] <SpexBluefox> Hey guys. I'm having a problem with the latest 8.04 installation. I went with the "install from windows" option, and earlier it worked great. But after a few re-installs there isn't a version of 8.04 that seems to work. The issues seems to be in video or in X not starting.
[10:34] <waylandbill> abhi_: set the association to something else then.
[10:34] <Lamego> !hardy | SpexBluefox
[10:34] <ubotu> SpexBluefox: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[10:35] <SpexBluefox> ah, ok then =) thank you
[10:35] <zero> hi, i have ubuntu 7.10 running gnome, and i want the FULL ubuntu studio, is there a way to get it without having to burn a DVD and reinstall?
[10:35] <cristi1990> waylandbill:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61997/
[10:35] <ikonia> zero: ubuntu studio is now in the main ubuntu repo's I believe.
[10:35] <abhi_> waylandbill: ok but how? would u know any conf file through which i can do it? because the GUI isn't helping here :(
[10:36] <Lamego> zero, have you tried to search for it on repositories ? I believe there is an ubuntu-studio metapackage, not sure if it is only for hardy
[10:36] <zero> ikonia, so how do i install it?
[10:36] <ikonia> zero: search for ubuntu studio in synaptics, there should be a meta package
[10:36] <ikonia> zero: I'm not %100 that is't now in the repo's but I believe it is
[10:36] <zero> i did aptitude install ubuntu studio an dNOTHING h appened
[10:36] <ikonia> zero: you've done install
[10:36] <ikonia> zero: why have you not searched for the package
[10:36] <Lamego> zero, search for it first
[10:37] <ikonia> zero: it may not be called "ubuntu studio"
[10:37] <ikonia> zero: could be ubstudio
[10:37] <ikonia> zero: for example.
[10:37] <zero> so search in synaptics and then install it, then select it in sessions before login?
[10:37] <DistroJockey> abhi_: try right-clicking the file and choose "Open with Other Apllication..." then choose what you want. That should set the default I think.
[10:38] <ikonia> zero: no, you won't have it in "session" is't just an application sweet, kernel patch and desktop theme, it will replace your current theme and be available through your current install
[10:38] <abhi_> DistroJockey: didn't help :(
[10:38] <zero> ikonia, thank you
[10:38] <kraft__> how do i tell mplayer to output to an svideo port?
[10:38] <waylandbill> abhi_: this may help: http://ubuntuswitch.blogspot.com/2007/10/ubuntu-file-association-if-you-want-to.html
[10:38] <abhi_> waylandbill: didn't help either :( i already seen that
[10:39] <ikonia> abhi_: contact adobe and ask them how it works
[10:39] <abhi_> ikonia: will inform u when i get a fix :)
[10:39] <cristi1990> waylandbill: so can you help me out with those errors?
[10:39] <Ignacius> how do I create a RAM drive?
[10:39] <ikonia> abhi_: I'm not interested.
[10:39] <waylandbill> cristi1990: what program produced that error?
[10:39] <cowboy29> i just go xchat installed on my system and i am wanting to connect to a certin channel not listed in the lists of servers for xcaht how do i connect to it if it is justa  random server?
[10:39] <abhi_> ikonia: i thought u were here to help others :)
[10:39] <cristi1990> waylandbill: restricted drivers manager
[10:39] <zero> oh, and how do i uprade to hardy beta?
[10:39] <cristi1990> waylandbill: can't get it started
[10:39] <Lamego> cowboy29, /server servername
[10:40] <ikonia> abhi_: yes, thats true. I'm not interested in this resolution though as I don't believe it is an issue
[10:40] <Ignacius> how do I create a RAM drive?
[10:40] <abhi_> ikonia: it is a serious issue when u cannot open ur files with ur default program
[10:40] <ikonia> abhi_: issue for YOU
[10:40] <compwiz18> Ignacius: mount -t tmpfs /mount/point
[10:40] <cristi1990> waylandbill: it asks for a file : "linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-generic" and during install i get those errors
[10:40] <compwiz18> Ignacius: I htink -- might not work
[10:41] <waylandbill> cristi1990: did you install that package?
[10:41] <abhi_> ikonia: ok! suit ur self!
[10:41] <cristi1990> waylandbill: at the end of the install i get the errors
[10:41] <cristi1990> waylandbill: after i restart it still asks for the package
[10:41] <waylandbill> abhi_: I did what that page said to a file association and it changed the default program for me.
[10:42] <compwiz18> hey, does anyone know of a virtual machine that lets me use partitions as the hard drives in the virtual machine?
[10:42] <abhi_> waylandbill it's not working AIR "hijacks" it
[10:42] <cowboy29> hmm didn't work
[10:42] <waylandbill> cristi1990: try in a terminal 'sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-generic'
[10:42] <cristi1990> waylandbill: done that
[10:43] <cristi1990> waylandbill: still get the errors
[10:43] <Ignacius> compwiz18: where do I run that?
[10:43] <Lamego> Ignacius, http://kevin.vanzonneveld.net/techblog/article/create_turbocharged_storage_using_tmpfs/
[10:43] <waylandbill> cristi1990: and the result was? and error? pastebin the entire output of apt-get
[10:43] <cristi1990> ok
[10:43] <eric> hello
[10:44] <compwiz18> Ignacius: any where you want
[10:44] <eric> I have a problem with burning CDs
[10:44] <compwiz18> Ignacius: (or in a terminal, if thats what you meant)
[10:44] <eric> I can burn as root but if I burn as user i always get some error
[10:44] <waylandbill> abhi_: that may be something to discuss with adobe's developers since it is still alpha yet.
[10:44] <eric> can anyone help me ?
[10:44] <Ignacius> compwiz18: it doesn't work, ...how do I know if it does?
[10:45] <alanbshepard70> I just installed Ubuntu on a friends computer and now I'm trying to get all of the codecs and packages needed to play just about every type of media file like mp3, mp4, avi, DVD, ogg, wav, midi, etc.... Is there a meta package that will select all of the needed files automatically or do I need to search out each package? If I just install all of the available gstreamer plugins with the universe and multiverse repos enabled will I get 
[10:45] <eric> it looks like user doesn't have write permission
[10:45] <abhi_> waylandbill: filing a report
[10:45] <cristi1990> waylandbill: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61998/ here is the full install
[10:45] <obsidian> helou
[10:46] <compwiz18> Ignacius: sorry, you're right
[10:46] <compwiz18> hang on a sec
[10:46] <obsidian> my first time here...
[10:46] <eric> anyone ?
[10:46] <waylandbill> !multimedia
[10:46] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[10:46] <lachlan> i have just downloaded vmware could anybody tell me how to install it?
[10:46] <DistroJockey> !hi | obsidian
[10:46] <ubotu> obsidian: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[10:47] <compwiz18> Ignacius: sudo mount -t tmpfs tmpfs blah
[10:47] <compwiz18> Ignacius: where blah is the mount point
[10:47] <eric> I have a problem with burning CDs..I can burn as root but if I burn as user i always get some error. It looks like user doesn't have write permission...does anyone know how to solve this ?
[10:48] <Ignacius> compwiz18: how do I control its size?
[10:48] <DistroJockey> lachlan: I should think that vmware comes with istrutions on how to install it
[10:48] <DistroJockey> instructions^
[10:48] <cristi1990> waylandbill: did you look at the install?
[10:48] <waylandbill> cristi1990: what kernel version are you running now? you can find out with 'uname -r' if you don't know.
[10:49] <oge> #dragonlight-wow
[10:49] <cristi1990> waylandbill: 2.6.22-14-generic
[10:49] <compwiz18> Ignacius: I don't know, sorry :(
[10:50] <Ignacius> ok
[10:50] <waylandbill> cristi1990: interesting. It's having serious trouble trying to set up that kernel. I don't know how to solve it, as I've never seen that before.
[10:51] <waylandbill> cristi1990: it's failing because of this: Package linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic is not configured yet
[10:51] <jtiner> quick question guys...i need a cheap hard copy of the latest version of ubuntu - anyone know where i can buy some cheap cd's or dvd's of the OS and have it mailed to me - i need to have it mailed because my internet connection is slow (satellite)
[10:51] <cristi1990> waylandbill: how do i configure it?
[10:52] <abhi_> waylandbill: best way is get rid of Adobe AIR thru dpkg -r adobeair-enu that's what adobe says!!!
[10:52] <waylandbill> cristi1990: could you run 'locate update-grub' and pastebin the output?
[10:52] <DistroJockey> jtiner: https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[10:52] <cristi1990> waylandbill: sure thing one moment
[10:52] <waylandbill> abhi_: hmm.. that's not encouraging.
[10:53] <DistroJockey> jtiner: page is slow atm, give it time
[10:53] <abhi_> waylandbill: hehe... what do u expect from adobe? :)
[10:54] <cristi1990> waylandbill: well... the output is NULL
[10:54] <cristi1990> waylandbill: i mean i don't get an output
[10:54] <jtiner> afk, brb in a min
[10:54] <bidget> quick I need help I think Im almost done installing!!!
[10:54] <waylandbill> cristi1990: that's a problem
[10:55] <bidget> actually Ive barely started lol
[10:55] <bidget> but Im partitioning my drive and I dont know where to put the swap partition
[10:55] <bidget> Ive made a partition at / and one at /home
[10:55] <DistroJockey> jtiner: If you can wait 21, maybe slightly longer that would be better as the next release is due then.
[10:55] <bidget> can anyone tell me where the swap partition goes?
[10:55] <DistroJockey> 21 days^
[10:55] <cristi1990> waylandbill: i have a bigger problem with the grub: it doesn't see windows
[10:56] <bidget> anybody?
[10:56] <DistroJockey> bidget: where ever you want to put it
[10:56] <bidget> :(
[10:56] <bidget> oh
[10:56] <threefcata> where is all the font files?
[10:56] <bidget> but how does it know that its a swap partition...
[10:56] <DistroJockey> bidget: it has a special format
[10:57] <bidget> I went to make a small partition using the last of the available space which was like 1.8gb and it wanted to put it in /usr
[10:57] <DistroJockey> bidget: change from ext3 to swap
[10:57] <l_|> .
[10:57] <bidget> ah I get it
[10:57] <bidget> :D
[10:57] <DistroJockey> :)
[10:57] <waylandbill> cristi1990: that's a separate issue. anyway without update-grub, the kernel package won't be able to configure.
[10:57] <bidget> thats what I was missing
[10:57] <bidget> haha ok back to installing thanks a lot
[10:57] <DistroJockey> you're welcome :)
[10:58] <bidget> maybe next time we talk I will be in linux! :D
[10:58] <DistroJockey> bidget: best of luck :)
[10:58] <cristi1990> waylandbill: tried to configure it this morning, but still no. So i thought i'd better finish making the desktop apearence visual efects work, but after i enable the driver it still doesn't work, so i thought i'd use the restricted drivers manager...
[10:58] <Heka> hi
[10:58] <DistroJockey> !hi | heka
[10:58] <ubotu> heka: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[10:59] <Heka> can anyone inform me how to reinstall Grub
[10:59] <Heka> i think it's not working properly and i'm running ubuntu and xp
[10:59] <DistroJockey> heka: can you get into Ubuntu?
[11:00] <waylandbill> cristi1990: yeah. you want restricted drivers for nvidia and desktop effects. You were right there. It's troubling that update-grub is missing though. It's installed by default.
[11:00] <Heka> yoe but it took like 30mins
[11:00] <s_> where can i find this HKLM\Software\MicrosoftWindowsNT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\GinaDLL
[11:00] <DistroJockey> Heka: eek!
[11:00] <DistroJockey> !grub | heka
[11:00] <ubotu> heka: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:00] <cristi1990> waylandbill: i reinstalled grub from the booting cd.. maybe that's the problem
[11:00] <Heka> oh ty :)
[11:00] <Heka> yep
[11:00] <DistroJockey> np
[11:01] <cristi1990> waylandbill: how can i get the update grub back lol
[11:01] <dgjones> !s_ask in ##windows for windows queries
[11:01] <waylandbill> cristi1990: I'm not sure which package provides it yet.
[11:01] <Heka> it's weid that grub won't start and sometimes it lets me boot ubuntu (by default) but it takes like 30mins
[11:02] <DistroJockey> Heka: very
[11:02] <Acomaco> How can I check which ports are used by what programs?
[11:02] <cristi1990> waylandbill: can you find out somehow which package provides it?
[11:02] <Lamego> AccessExcess, netstat -nlp
[11:03] <Lamego> erm, Acomaco ^
[11:03] <Acomaco> okey! :)
[11:03] <waylandbill> Heka: could be early sign of a hardware issue, especially if it is an older hard drive.
[11:03] <Heka> everything is working weird on my computer.. two days ago i booted ubuntu after a long break and noticed that my adls connection is working
[11:03] <Acomaco> 3306 = mysql right?
[11:04] <waylandbill> cristi1990: I'm looking
[11:04] <Heka> it worked on ubuntu last time on 6.10
[11:04] <waylandbill> Heka: have you ever tested the ram with memtest boot option?
[11:05] <Heka> no because i can't access grub
[11:05] <Heka> but in BIOS it seems to be ok
[11:05] <DistroJockey> Heka: got a live CD?
[11:05] <waylandbill> Heka: the install CD has the option.
[11:05] <Heka> i think it's my HDD that's messed up
[11:06] <Heka> oh yes. maybe i'll run the live cd (6.10 tough)
[11:06] <Garren> how do i tell what partitions i have ?
[11:06] <DistroJockey> Heka: yeah, worth a try, backup what data you need if it does boot
[11:07] <Heka> yep
[11:07] <waylandbill> Garren: sudo sfdisk -l
[11:07] <Garren> thankyou
[11:08] <gilead> hi
[11:08] <kennethr> hi
[11:08] <Heka> GrubHowTo tells to make a grub floppy... I don't have floppy drive but could GRUB work on an USB-stick
[11:09] <kennethr> How long after a Firefox Beta Release is that beta included in ubuntu?
[11:09] <ikonia> kennethr: I'd be surprised if it was quick
[11:09] <waylandbill> Heka: if the bios supports booting from it I believe it is possible.
[11:09] <Lamego> !hardy | kennethr
[11:09] <ubotu> kennethr: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[11:09] <kennethr> I'm on Hardy Heron already
[11:09] <Heka> yep
[11:10] <kennethr> Lamego: how soon until it's included in hardy?
[11:10] <gilead> for some reason when I try to reinstall/update/remove/anything deskbar-applet package my system hangs hard. Since it's in half-installed state right now each time I try to update the system or install new package it gets processed and, if I don't press Ctrl+C on time, the system hangs. That sucks :) How can I remove this package from the apt list of installed packages completely? Holding it didn't help.
[11:10] <Garren> it says,  /dev/hda1 , /dev/hda2 , /dev/hda3 , /dev/hda4 , /dev/hda5   what does that mean ?
[11:10] <kennethr> Hardy already has firefox3.0b4
[11:10] <jtravnick> is there a way to make rhythmbox play more random?
[11:10] <gilead> of course I can just edit the config files but maybe there's a cleaner way to do that?
[11:11] <Acomaco> that the main ide cable got 5 instances Garren
[11:11] <gilead> like apt-get --forget-about deskbar-applet ? ;)
[11:11] <waylandbill> Garren: those are the partition device names. I guess the next question is what are you trying to do?
[11:11] <kelvin911> how to make a movie play in the background?
[11:11] <kennethr> ikonia: Hardy already has firefox3.0b4...when do you suppose they'll bring in 3.0b5 which released yesterday?
[11:11] <ikonia> kennethr: no
[11:11] <DistroJockey> Heka: which guide are you following?
[11:11] <ikonia> kennethr: but I don' tknow
[11:11] <cristi1990> waylandbill: uh so... did you find that package?
[11:12] <kelvin911> i saw on youtube someone use a movable desktop wallpaper, is it possible?
[11:12] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 kennethr
[11:12] <kelvin911> and he put a movie as wallpaper
[11:12] <kennethr> bazhang: ah! got it...thankx!
[11:12] <waylandbill> cristi1990: still looking... sorry...
[11:12] <Garren> i just installed a fresh copy of ubuntu and erased the entire hard drive
[11:12] <ricanelite> when i boot up my machine and when the login screen comes up it is at a different resolution like 800x600 but when I login and it goes to my desktop it is at 1280x720
[11:12] <cristi1990> waylandbill: oh... ok np :D
[11:12] <ricanelite> what is wrong there?
[11:12] <Garren> i want a partition to save stuff
[11:14] <DistroJockey> kelvin911: xwinwrap is probably what you are looking for
[11:14] <Heka> DistroJocey: I'm following help.ubuntu.com atm
[11:14] <waylandbill> Garren: other than /home?
[11:14] <Slart> kelvin911: well.. I haven't really tried on ubuntu.. but on windows you could use some kind of color replacement when playing videos.. perhaps something similar is available on linux..
[11:15] <DistroJockey> Heka: this one may be worth a look at in places:   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:15] <Garren> i see home, it says 99.9gig , my hard drive is 120gig
[11:15] <Heka> yes
[11:15] <Garren> is that the partition ?
[11:15] <cristi1990> waylandbill: i am trying to install the grub package with the synaptic package manager
[11:16] <Heka> hey by the way does anyone know is there going to be any support for ati x1950 pro on ubuntu
[11:16] <DistroJockey> Heka: more than likely
[11:16] <unicum> anyone here using a macbook in triple boot or something close to that?
[11:16] <bazhang> kelvin911: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=617425 here you go
[11:16] <my007ms> is it real that Microsoft offer to by ubuntu ?
[11:16] <cristi1990> waylandbill: HAH! it worked for the Restricted drivers!
[11:16] <bazhang> my007ms: no
[11:17] <my007ms> s/by/buy
[11:17] <Heka> if my graphics card only had better driver support I'd be able to switch in l
[11:17] <LGKeiz> ?  Hardy
[11:17] <Heka> linux
[11:17] <LGKeiz> ..err >.>;
[11:17] <shekk> whoa
[11:17] <waylandbill> cristi1990: excellent. I had a feeling that was the package.
[11:17] <shekk> this network
[11:17] <shekk> owns
[11:17] <cristi1990> waylandbill: thank's a lot!
[11:17] <cristi1990> bye
[11:18] <Johnny_5> how do i remove someone from my admin group and remove their user name completely from my system?
[11:19] <waylandbill> Johnny_5: I assume you tried System, Administration, Users and Groups?
[11:20] <Lamego> Johnny_5, userdel -r user
[11:20] <Johnny_5> no...how would i get there in enlightenment?
[11:20] <Johnny_5> k
[11:20] <Lamego> i mean, sudoed
[11:20] <woodwizzle> If I want to run windows apps. Like Internet Explorer and Games. Is virtualization a better solution than running wine?
[11:20] <ricanelite> my screen resolution is different at my login screen but when I boot into my desktop it is at the resolution I have it setup for
[11:21] <Slart> woodwizzle: for games, use wine.. if you're not really interested in speed.. use virtualization
[11:21] <Lamego> woodwizzle, it depends, some apps do no run with wine, on the other hand, you dont have 3d with virtualization, it will not run 3d games
[11:21] <bazhang> IE?
[11:21] <ricanelite> yeah because Virtualbox like I'm using runs a bit slow
[11:21] <waylandbill> Johnny_5: deluser .. the manpage has all the switches for removing the user's files.
[11:21] <Johnny_5> k
[11:21] <Johnny_5> thanx
[11:22] <Skiessi> !info firefox
[11:22] <ubotu> Package firefox does not exist in gutsy
[11:22] <waylandbill> Johnny_5: I get it was a bad assumption that ubuntu users use Gnome. :-D
[11:22] <Slart> Skiessi: ubotus package info is broken
[11:22] <Johnny_5> ;)
[11:23] <joep> Good day!
[11:23] <joep> I'm new to Ubuntu (but experienced in Linux) can anybody enlighten me on the cups-server used by Ububtu?
[11:24] <joep> It uses a different location scheme of printers than I'm accustomed.
[11:25] <Amaranth> All I know about CUPS is that I plug in a printer and hit print, sorry
[11:25] <kelvin911> does the movie wallpaper used up many resources?
[11:26] <joep> Yes! that's what I thought. I can of course print from the workstation the printer is connected to but that's not the problem. My other systems, using the network don't see the printer.
[11:27] <DistroJockey> joep: this may help:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP
[11:28] <LollinopiL> can I install Office2003 with ubuntu ?
[11:28] <abhi_> ikonia: i removed adobe AIR but this problem still persists, i think Adobe AIR overwrites some stuff in GNOME. u think re-installing GNOME might help?
[11:28] <bidget> ok guys Im lost
[11:28] <bidget> I got to the end of the installation
[11:29] <bidget> and it somehow detected TWO windows xp installations
[11:29] <bidget> so I said ok whatever, continue, install grub
[11:29] <bidget> but then I restarted my computer.....
[11:29] <bidget> and....
[11:29] <bidget> it booted into windows without even asking :'(
[11:29] <joep> thanks DIstroJockey I'll look there. However, the URI that's given by Ububtu is strange as it doesn't use an standard location
[11:29] <LollinopiL> can I install Office2003 with ubuntu ?
[11:30] <waylandbill> joep: System, Administration, Printing, make sure 'Share Published Printers' is checked. In the cupsd.conf, you want to make sure to add a line for listening on desired address. Then other cups based systems can use IPP to print. For windows clients, you'll need to share via Samba.
[11:30] <bidget> can anyone tell me why I have no grub loader?
[11:30] <kelvin911> why MSoffice in ubuntu?
[11:30] <DistroJockey> joep: no problem. Good luck
[11:31] <Lamego> LollinopiL, check on the wine apps list, or at the wine channel
[11:31] <bidget> I finished the installation and it just booted me right back into windows xp, there was no menu to choose...
[11:31] <bidget> I looked at the wine apps
[11:31] <bidget> apparently your best bet for msoffice is office 2000
[11:31] <LollinopiL> kelvin because i must create a DOC document 4 my university, the convertion from OOffice doesn't work
[11:31] <bidget> 2003 is still buggy
[11:31] <joep> Lollipil NO. But use Openoffice faster, better and not buggy.
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[11:31] <Skitt> bidget: may you haven't installed grub?
[11:31] <kelvin911> in save as choose doc
[11:31] <bidget> but I just installed grub :(
[11:32] <LollinopiL> my university requires a doc file ^.^
[11:32] <DistroJockey> bidget: did you get asked whether you wanted grub installed in a partition or the hdd?
[11:32] <kelvin911> make sure it's office 2000 or office xp doc
[11:32] <bidget> I get to the end of the installation and it said "we've detected windows xp, do you want to install grub"
[11:32] <bidget> and I said yes
[11:32] <Skitt> crappy university ...
[11:32] <bidget> I said the hdd
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> LollinopiL: you could save it as PDF if you are submitting work :D
[11:32] <waylandbill> LollinopiL: OOo can save to doc.
[11:32] <DistroJockey> bidget: hmm, that should be the way to do it
[11:32] <LollinopiL> uhm Action good Idea
[11:32] <bidget> yeah I know thats why Im confused
[11:32] <kelvin911> yes pdf always work
[11:33] <bidget> the whole installation was incredibly straight forward except I didnt know to change the swap partition from ext3 to swap
[11:33] <kelvin911> my resume is always in pdf
[11:33] <bidget> but someone shed some light on that for me so it was all good
[11:33] <LollinopiL> way i've saved to doc but some pictures doesn't work properly
[11:33] <DistroJockey> bidget: :)
[11:33] <kelvin911> so the other end no one can changes it
[11:33] <erat123> i see firefox beta 5 is out.. but the final release isnt until june.... will ubntu hardy still adopt firefox 3??
[11:33] <Johnny_5> how do i use pastebin?
[11:33] <bidget> lol
[11:33] <bidget> Im going to reboot maybe grub will magically appear
[11:33] <bidget> brb
[11:33] <DistroJockey> !pastebin | Johnny_5
[11:33] <ubotu> Johnny_5: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[11:33] <LollinopiL> !lol
[11:33] <kelvin911> what kinda unveristy is that?
[11:33] <ubotu> Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[11:34] <Johnny_5> i want to paste a screenshot so u guys can see the prob i'm havin'
[11:34] <waylandbill> LollinopiL: oh. images will work with the pdf.
[11:34] <kelvin911> most university uses unix in computer lab
[11:34] <LollinopiL> WEEEEEELL i try to save the document as PDF ^.^
[11:34] <LollinopiL> thanks !
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> Johnny_5: paste stuff in and hit the submit button (or paste) then you will have a url in your address bar. paste that here
[11:34] <Johnny_5> k
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> Johnny_5: then use imageshack or similar
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> LollinopiL: .doc is a proprietary microsoft format. Its a best effort really. The community ispushing for an open format so all systems can interoperate
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> LollinopiL: but M$ probs won't take it so they can see their suite
[11:35] <guycook> link for a good how to on dual monitors in x64 ubuntu?
[11:35] <guycook> nvidia card in the tower
[11:35] <]Mster_Of_Chaos> which tower?
[11:36] <]Mster_Of_Chaos> i hate nvidia too.
[11:36] <kelvin911> nvidia is the best
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> nvidia rocks. excellent support in linux :)
[11:36] <Johnny_5> how do i use that?
[11:36] <]Mster_Of_Chaos> they do not allow me to use ther faggot software
[11:36] <]Mster_Of_Chaos> support?
[11:36] <]Mster_Of_Chaos> grah
[11:36] <waylandbill> kelvin911: there are many that don't. Many schools and universities have Windows servers. Don't ask me why.
[11:36] <guycook> I have removable hard drives, and just tried installing ubuntu, but only works on one monitor
[11:36] <kelvin911> waylandbill: really?
[11:36] <Johnny_5> ActionParsnip: how do i use imageshack
[11:36] <kelvin911> waylandbill: in US or canada?
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> ]Mster_Of_Chaos: yeah, the produce drivers for Linux. ATi are still being weird
[11:36] <]Mster_Of_Chaos> they sends me 100megabyte software
[11:37] <]Mster_Of_Chaos> fir allowing me to use their stupid device
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> Johnny_5: you can use photobucket too, anything will do
[11:37] <]Mster_Of_Chaos> which realy needs just not much then 10kb data or drive that f* thing
[11:37] <Lamego> kelvin911, on some EU countries Windows is more used at univs
[11:38] <ricanelite> when i boot up my machine and when the login screen comes up it is at a different resolution like 800x600 but when I login and it goes to my desktop it is at 1280x720
[11:38] <waylandbill> kelvin911: US. Could be Canada too, but I wouldn't know. There must be something they know that I don't.
[11:38] <]Mster_Of_Chaos> its some as forcing you to use a nvidia  driver for your bike.
[11:38] <]Mster_Of_Chaos> grah
[11:38] <kelvin911> Lamego: wow didnt know that, maybe those university doesnt have computer department
[11:38] <]Mster_Of_Chaos> can you imagine allway a man will sit on your bike
[11:38] <]Mster_Of_Chaos> if there was just nvidia made bikes
[11:38] <]Mster_Of_Chaos> lols
[11:38] <Lamego> kelvin911, they do, IT Eng Univs
[11:38] <VijayAnand> ricanelite: 720? you mean 800?
[11:38] <]Mster_Of_Chaos> bike driver
[11:39] <]Mster_Of_Chaos> for using a bike 1
[11:39] <]Mster_Of_Chaos> !
[11:39] <waylandbill> ]Mster_Of_Chaos: but it's a privilege to use their card. ;)
[11:39] <]Mster_Of_Chaos> grah.
[11:39] <kelvin911> my university here in canada uses saloris
[11:39] <]Mster_Of_Chaos> yeah but it makes it hard
[11:39] <VijayAnand> kelvin911: canada.. which uni?
[11:39] <kelvin911> UBCO
[11:39] <guycook> Does the unbuntu have a gui for setting the displays?
[11:39] <VijayAnand> kelvin911: ah, i went to Ottawa U
[11:39] <ideal> Good
[11:39] <kelvin911> cant afford to pay MS
[11:40] <VijayAnand> kelvin911: they were sold on solaris too :P
[11:40] <billy> sup
[11:40] <kelvin911> my prof said in windows lab, each computer need to pay license
[11:40] <waylandbill> kelvin911: I guess it all depends on the IT dept. Maybe they think paying M$ for the software means it'll function better.
[11:40] <abhi_> does anyone know how does GNOME decide on MIME Types? I have a file which is of a different MIME type than the one GNOME is displaying
[11:40] <VijayAnand> kelvin911: your professor is too old :)
[11:40] <waylandbill> kelvin911: that's correct. each one needs a license.
[11:40] <]Mster_Of_Chaos> grah ewen more stupid thing is i also need kernel sources too
[11:41] <]Mster_Of_Chaos> ~150 mb data for a driver
[11:41] <]Mster_Of_Chaos> ewery time it fails
[11:41] <joep> Distrojokey thanks!. It turned out I had the wrong printername chosen belonging to my other distribution (FC7).
[11:41] <kelvin911> the licensing paying sun is cheaper therefore go for spac machine
[11:41] <kelvin911> sparc
[11:41] <]Mster_Of_Chaos> grah
[11:41] <]Mster_Of_Chaos> i crack their drivers one day
[11:41] <]Mster_Of_Chaos> i were hoping someone else do it before
[11:42] <]Mster_Of_Chaos> but looks like worlds awerage does not supports it.
[11:42] <DistroJockey> joep: np, glad you got it sorted
[11:42] <]Mster_Of_Chaos> i feel angry about that
[11:42] <waylandbill> kelvin911: freebsd is even cheaper and runs a mean webserver.
[11:42] <joep> To all: I have another problem. My ubuntu (7.10) will not use or see my soundcard.
[11:42] <]Mster_Of_Chaos> i hate god about this why he or she maeked world that stupid
[11:43] <]Mster_Of_Chaos> its not acceptable
[11:43] <joep> I have an onboard AOC and a PCI Soundblaster (which I want to use).
[11:43] <]Mster_Of_Chaos> someone shold do something about it.
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> joep: what card is it? Can we have a pastebin of lspci please
[11:43] <]Mster_Of_Chaos> grah but im wery wery busy to do somethings for this for now
[11:43] <damo22> joep: sudo lspci -v
[11:43] <]Mster_Of_Chaos> grah brah
[11:44] <kelvin911> the reason i think the university using unix is u can link up more than one computer to do calculation for some math stuffs
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> damo22: no need for sudo, dude
[11:44] <joep> However, neither is seen and so I have no sound (I use my system a.o. for sound recording with Ardour!).
[11:44] <]Mster_Of_Chaos> i hate ubuntu about sudo su too...!
[11:44] <kelvin911> thats why maybe
[11:44] <]Mster_Of_Chaos> knoppix do not needs sudo su
[11:44] <]Mster_Of_Chaos> and windows do not need it
[11:44] <]Mster_Of_Chaos> grah anyway
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> ]Mster_Of_Chaos: thats cos you run it all as root. All live CDs do
[11:44] <]Mster_Of_Chaos> knoppix needs instead just su.
[11:44] <Johnny_5> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61999/
[11:44] <]Mster_Of_Chaos> ni
[11:45] <Johnny_5> take a look @ this please
[11:45] <]Mster_Of_Chaos> not all cds do not needs it
[11:45] <Johnny_5> i think i screwed something up somewhere down the line...
[11:45] <waylandbill> kelvin911: most webservers run *nix. It makes more sense to teach systems that admins would actually be using in the field.
[11:45] <]Mster_Of_Chaos> knoppix neesds just su
[11:45] <]Mster_Of_Chaos> for getting root access
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> ]Mster_Of_Chaos: its usual
[11:45] <sergiu87> hi
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> just sudo / gksu / kdesu when you need power
[11:46] <sergiu87> why for me the ^c control keys dosent work in terminal?
[11:46] <l0tU5> DOES ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT CLONEZILLA OR JUST CLONING A MACHINE?
[11:46] <joep> I want to do it but ubuntu want a file to use with a database
[11:46] <DistroJockey> sergiu87: as in Ctrl+C ?
[11:46] <Frederick> I am a 5-years Windows user, I am a dummy in linux and I am reading "Linux for dummies", will this help?
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> l0tU5: kill the caps dude
[11:46] <]Mster_Of_Chaos> condalesza rice ?
[11:46] <bastid_raZor> !cloning | l0tU5
[11:46] <ubotu> l0tU5: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[11:46] <sergiu87> DistroJockey ,yes
[11:46] <Slart> !caps | l0tU5
[11:46] <ubotu> l0tU5: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:46] <waylandbill> Johnny_5: you trying to access another user's files?
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> Frederick: a little, just use it and you'll learn faster too
[11:47] <Johnny_5> no i'm tryin' to move files into their folder
[11:47] <DistroJockey> sergiu87: hmm, no idea. What are you trying to cancel?
[11:47] <Frederick> ActionParsnip: thanks
[11:47] <l0tU5> Sorry... my bad
[11:48] <waylandbill> Frederick: I recommend http://linuxbasics.org as well
[11:48] <Johnny_5> i accidentally made them own the dir in my /home/nix0r dir
[11:48] <sergiu87> DistroJockey, the upgrade, but with rtorrent it also dont work.
[11:48] <sergiu87> ctrl+q, ctrl+d..
[11:48] <ideal> I'm install a common package by using ./configure make make install. after I typed the command make,I got the following error : make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop.Look forward to your help.Thanks!
[11:48] <l0tU5> !automate
[11:48] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[11:48] <Frederick> waylandbill: k, will bookmark that, thanks
[11:48] <Slart> ideal: did the ./configure part print out any errors?
[11:48] <ideal> no
[11:49] <DistroJockey> sergiu87: sorry, no idea
[11:49] <Slart> ideal: then I guess you need to talk to whoever wrote the software you're trying to compile
[11:49] <waylandbill> Johnny_5: if you want to access their folder without being root, you need to give write permission to group or others. You need to do that as the other user or root.
[11:50] <ideal> but after installing several packages,I found it happened every time.
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> Johnny_5: check out chmod or chown :)
[11:50] <Johnny_5> k
[11:50] <stevecam> hello
[11:50] <Slart> ideal: if I understand things correctly ./configure sets up the make files so make works.. you'll get the same error if you don't run ./configure.. or if ./configure finds something wrong and exits with an error
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> !hi | stevecam
[11:50] <ubotu> stevecam: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[11:50] <joep> I have used the indicated file and the soundcard is seen:02:08.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 0a)
[11:50] <joep> 02:08.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! Game Port (rev 0a)
[11:51] <Slart> ideal: well.. pastebin the output from ./configure and make and we'll see if you missed something
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> joep: ok so its installed but youget no sound
[11:51] <waylandbill> ideal: if you do alot of source based installations, you may be interested in 'checkinstall'
[11:51] <l0tU5> I need to clone this machine on 7 other machines... It needs to be exactly the same with games and all... All personal data...
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> joep: if you run amarok and play a track does the eq move?
[11:51] <ideal> I did not so much
[11:52] <iositd> l0tU5, are the 7 machines exactly the same? (concerning HDD the most)
[11:52] <terminhell> Im using xfce right now, and im wondering if there is a way to make its panels "always on bottom"
[11:52] <l0tU5> They must become exactly the same...
[11:52] <joep> From which directory ?? I installed Ububtu fro DVD so I have nothing configured.
[11:52] <l0tU5> oh... yes... all hardware is the same...
[11:52] <iositd> l0tU5, it's about the size mostly. If they are the same, you can use dd to copy and paste the exact content.
[11:53] <Johnny_5> ActionParsnip: what do i do about the fact that it says brian owns all those folders in my /home/nix0r dir?
[11:53] <waylandbill> l0tU5: dd the partitions from one hard drive to the next. You could use GPartEd as well preferably from a LiveCD so the partitions aren't mounted.
[11:53] <l0tU5> the machines are built the same...
[11:53] <Survivorman> terminhell, why don't you join #xubuntu
[11:53] <terminhell> Survivorman: cuz i didnt think of it :p
[11:53] <l0tU5> whats dd?
[11:53] <ideal> in the last line of the output of ./configure,I was given the following : configure: error: "Cannot find glib"
[11:54] <DistroJockey> joep: maybe try alsamixer in a terminal to see what is there. You can type ? while in there for help.
[11:54] <Slart> ideal: looks like an error to me..
[11:54] <iositd> l0tU5, use a liveCD to boot the machine you want to copy, and then use DD if=/your/root/partition of=/your/external/drive/file which will write a file to your drive. Then you can boot the other machine and do the exact opposite.
[11:54] <waylandbill> l0tU5: dd copies files.
[11:54] <ideal> This is some more information:
[11:54] <ideal> *** Could not run GLIB test program, checking why...
[11:54] <ideal> *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the
[11:54] <ideal> *** exact error that occured. This usually means GLIB is incorrectly installed.
[11:54] <ideal> configure: error: "Cannot find glib"
[11:54] <FloodBot3> ideal: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:54] <DragonLarma> hello!
[11:54] <Slart> ideal: don't paste in here.. use a !pastebin
[11:55] <ideal> Ok,thank you.I'm a fresh here.
[11:55] <iositd> ideal, can you try to install glib?
[11:55] <joep> I don't think I have amarok installed. I will do that now. WIll come back but have to sign off now.
[11:55] <Slart> !paste | ideal
[11:55] <ubotu> ideal: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> Johnny_5: just sudo chown or sudo chmod the folder
[11:56] <Johnny_5> k
[11:56] <joep> Correction : I'm using Gnome (am allergic to KDE).
[11:56] <Slart> ideal: try running this in a terminal "sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-dev" then try ./configure again
[11:56] <unocrash> hey
[11:56] <iositd> Slart, you're aware of using apt-get build-dep right?
[11:57] <unocrash> Whats a good screen recorder for Ubuntu?
[11:57] <ideal> Thank you, I'm running it
[11:57] <l0tU5> Thanks
[11:57] <Slart> iositd: yes.. I'm just assuming that whatever he's installing isn't available as a package.. and build-dep doesn't work then, or?
[11:57] <waylandbill> unocrash: screen capture? hit the print screen button.
[11:58] <iositd> Slart, hmm ... yeah that's true
[11:58] <l0tU5> How would Gparted help with cloning?
[11:58] <iositd> l0tU5, DD would be the fastest and easiest to use
[11:58] <unocrash> waylandbill: I know that! I been with ubuntu for a few years, but never found a screen recorder compatible with it.
[11:58] <iositd> Slart, might help to know what package he's installin =)
[11:58] <iositd> unocrash, recordmydesktop ?
[11:58] <iositd> !find recordmydesktop
[11:58] <ubotu> Found: -
[11:59] <unocrash> never heard of Recordmydesktop
[11:59] <Slart> iositd: well.. yes...it might.. but where's the fun in taking the easy route ;)
[11:59] <unocrash> where do i get? Command line, package, website?
[11:59] <iositd> unocrash, p   recordmydesktop                 - Captures audio-video data of a Linux deskt
[11:59] <waylandbill> l0tU5: GParted would do the copying graphically, but basically does what dd does.
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> unocrash: its sudo apt-get install recordmydesktop
[11:59] <unocrash> ok
[11:59] <l0tU5> ok... at the moment I have 2 of the hard drives in 1 machine... The 1 that i want to clone and 1 of the other hard drives... what do i do?
[12:00] <iositd> Slart, heh ... that's true
[12:00] <crackerjackz> i had to reinstall ubuntu now "apt-get install" wont work
[12:00] <crackerjackz> am i missing some packages or something
[12:00] <Slart> !doesntwork
[12:00] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[12:00] <waylandbill> crackerjackz: can you pastebin apt-get output?
[12:00] <iositd> l0tU5, boot from another disc (liveCD preferably) and then do DD if=/dev/to/clone/from of=/dev/to/clone/to
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> crackerjackz: you need to select a package t install. try sudo apt-get update
[12:00] <crackerjackz> waylandbill what do you mean?
[12:00] <guycook> in gnome what do I use to setup the monitors?  Is there a gui that will do that?
[12:01] <abhi_> can anyone tell me how to edit MIME types for Ubuntu? I want to get rid of a mime type
[12:01] <ideal> Slart,I did it.Thank you so much.
[12:01] <waylandbill> apt-get doesn't work isn't specific enough. Is it outputting an error?
[12:01] <crackerjackz> actionparsnip apt-get update worked but when i try apt-get install gkrellm for example
[12:01] <Slart> ideal: you're welcome
[12:01] <unocrash> crackerjackz: the command line works like this
[12:01] <crackerjackz> or any other package
[12:01] <crackerjackz> it cant find them
[12:01] <l0tU5> Ok thanks... Now what if I want to create an "image" file of the partition to download from a server?
[12:02] <unocrash> crackerjackz: sudo apt-get install recordmydesktop
[12:02] <iositd> crackerjackz, please give us the output of what it tells you when you try to install a package on pastebin please.
[12:02] <fx|RabBit> hi all!
[12:02] <unocrash> crackerjackz: To install recordmydesktop, that's the command line
[12:02] <iositd> l0tU5, you'll need another disc. Then you'll use of=/media/to/write/image/file.ext
[12:02] <fx|RabBit> can anybody recommend me a decent webcam that works with skype?
[12:02] <kelvin911> or get recordmydesktop from add/remove
[12:02] <LGKeiz> hey
[12:02] <LGKeiz> um..
[12:02] <LGKeiz> for some reason
[12:02] <LGKeiz> people can't hear me on skype.
[12:03] <LGKeiz> but I can hear them
[12:03] <LGKeiz> anyone have any idea?
[12:03] <iositd> LGKeiz, please use just one line for your question.
[12:03] <kelvin911> yes
[12:03] <LGKeiz> sorry :p
[12:03] <Slart> LGKeiz: your microphone isn't connected?
[12:03] <LGKeiz> It's ..connected.
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> LGKeiz: try the mic in another socket
[12:03] <unocrash> LGKeiz: is the mic on?
[12:03] <fx|RabBit> LGKeiz: yes, have a look into your settings /audiosettings
[12:03] <kelvin911> its the setup in skype
[12:03] <LGKeiz> okay um, look at it.
[12:03] <fx|RabBit> LGKeiz: there change the default device to the first usb device
[12:04] <waylandbill> LGKeiz: correct input device selected in Skype? Volume not minimum or muted?
[12:04] <kelvin911> options | sound devices
[12:04] <unocrash> LGKeiz: Unmute the microphone in alsa.
[12:04] <crackerjackz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62002/
[12:04] <unocrash> or in skype
[12:04] <kelvin911> pick USB device if u r using webcam
[12:04] <l0tU5> what i want to be able to do is: if the hard drive isn't formatted then i'll search on the server for an image
[12:04] <fx|RabBit> LGKeiz: what webcam do u use?
[12:04] <crackerjackz> thats what happens when i try apt-get install recordmydesktop
[12:04] <LGKeiz> still nothing, i have it set to the first option.
[12:04] <LGKeiz> and the mic is unmuted.
[12:05] <fx|RabBit> LGKeiz: also in alsamixer?
[12:05] <unocrash> crackerjackz: sudo apt-get install.
[12:05] <Skiessi> crackerjackz, what version of ubuntu you have?
[12:05] <waylandbill> l0tU5: sounds like a job for PXE network booting
[12:05] <fx|RabBit> LGKeiz: are you on a laptop odera desktop?
[12:05] <unocrash> crackerjackz: you forgot the sudo
[12:05] <LGKeiz> desktop
[12:05] <crackerjackz> uno crash i already did sudo bash and put my password in in root
[12:05] <Survivorman> you may need to enable a repo
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> try gtk-recordmydesktop
[12:05] <LGKeiz> and yes it is unmuted.
[12:05] <Survivorman> he's root
[12:05] <crackerjackz> unocrash **
[12:05] <fx|RabBit> LGKeiz: so no hardware mute switch?
[12:05] <LGKeiz> fx|RabBit come again?..
[12:05] <l0tU5> and what format will the image be?
[12:05] <crackerjackz> ill try it with the sudo though just to see what it does
[12:06] <fx|RabBit> LGKeiz: what webcam do you have?
[12:06] <Skiessi> crackerjackz, it's the same
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> oh man check this :D
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> http://pkgb.net/recordmydesktop/debian
[12:06] <kelvin911> LGKeiz: is it a mic or webcam?
[12:06] <LGKeiz> I'm not using a webcam
[12:06] <LGKeiz> mic
[12:06] <crackerjackz> i think im missing some packages or libraries
[12:06] <Skiessi> !info recordmydesktop
[12:06] <ubotu> Package recordmydesktop does not exist in gutsy
[12:06] <fx|RabBit> LGKeiz: laptops usually hate a hardware switch to mute the output...
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> click the link to install app. thats the future :)
[12:06] <Survivorman> crackerjackz, sudo apt-cache search recordmydesktop and see what happens
[12:06] <Skiessi> somebody needs to fix ubotu
[12:06] <fx|RabBit> LGKeiz: kk
[12:06] <LGKeiz> hmm..
[12:07] <LGKeiz> well
[12:07] <LGKeiz> I could link you to my VNC.
[12:07] <Skiessi> crackerjackz, what version of ubuntu you have?
[12:07] <waylandbill> crackerjackz: it might be useful to see the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:07] <LGKeiz> It's on viewonly though
[12:07] <fx|RabBit> LGKeiz: omg r u crazyD
[12:07] <crackerjackz> 7.10 (64 bit)
[12:07] <Skiessi> ok good
[12:07] <kelvin911> haha
[12:07] <Survivorman> crackerjackz, System, Administration, Software Sources -- you may need to enable a repo as waylandbill suggested
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> LGKeiz: vnc over www is not advised. Its unencrypted unless its done through an ssh tunnel
[12:07] <LGKeiz> RabBit - I turn it off when I dont need it :P
[12:07] <LGKeiz> Yeah, like I just said I only use it when needed.
[12:08] <kelvin911> ActionParsnip: i think there is nothing to hack
[12:08] <stevecam> can i get the CD to compile the system for ubuntu?
[12:08] <crackerjackz> survivorman im in software sources
[12:08] <LGKeiz> finally
[12:08] <LGKeiz> fixed it
[12:08] <LGKeiz> nvm
[12:08] <fx|RabBit> LGKeiz:  waht was it?
[12:08] <kelvin911> LGKeiz: how did u fix it?
[12:08] <LGKeiz> the last settings in volume settings
[12:08] <LGKeiz> was muted.
[12:08] <kelvin911> pick the right device?
[12:08] <LGKeiz> "Recording"
[12:09] <kelvin911> ok
[12:09] <fx|RabBit> LGKeiz: hehe kk
[12:09] <crackerjackz> i think i fixed it
[12:09] <fx|RabBit> so now someone recommend me a decent webcam pleas!
[12:09] <Survivorman> crackerjackz, are any sources not selected?
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> fx|RabBit: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/cheap-linux-compatible-webcams-173497/
[12:10] <crackerjackz> survivorman all of them werent selected and i selected them all but it still cant find the packages
[12:10] <crackerjackz> that i try to install
[12:10] <kelvin911> the other day a guy come to me and ask me if i can install vista on his P3 128MB ram machine
[12:10] <waylandbill> crackerjackz: sudo apt-get update
[12:10] <fx|RabBit> ActionParsnip: thank you so much m8!
[12:10] <wilbert> why not
[12:10] <Skiessi> crackerjackz, did you update the lists?
[12:10] <kelvin911> its a P3 700 MHz
[12:10] <Survivorman> you may have to sudo apt-get update first
[12:10] <Skiessi> yeah
[12:10] <Survivorman> if not, here is the direct link to the ubuntu package: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/all/gtk-recordmydesktop/download
[12:10] <crackerjackz> im running apt-get update right now
[12:11] <Skiessi> it may have requirements
[12:11] <crackerjackz> yes =]
[12:11] <Survivorman> go there and select a mirror if you can't find it
[12:11] <wilbert> is there a problem with the latest packages for ubuntu hardy?
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> crackerjackz: i'd run sudo apt-get upgrade too :)
[12:11] <jrib> !hardy | wilbert
[12:11] <ubotu> wilbert: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[12:11] <crackerjackz> actionparsnip thank you
[12:12] <crackerjackz> thank you all
[12:12] <crackerjackz> i really appreciate it
[12:12] <Johnny_5> ActionParsnip:thanx i finally got it fixed
[12:12] <Survivorman> no problem :)
[12:12] <wilbert> oke, message understood
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> crackerjackz: its called a community for a reason :)
[12:12] <crackerjackz> =]
[12:12] <crackerjackz> is there a ubuntu like free chat
[12:12] <crackerjackz> like say #ubuntu-chat
[12:12] <crackerjackz> where topic is open
[12:12] <Slart> there's always the offtopic chat
[12:12] <Slart> !ot
[12:12] <crackerjackz> !ot
[12:12] <DistroJockey> !ot| crackerjackz
[12:13] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:13] <ubotu> crackerjackz: please see above
[12:13] <crackerjackz> yes #ubuntu-offtopic is what i was looking for =]
[12:13] <crackerjackz> thank you
[12:13] <DistroJockey> np :)
[12:13] <mernil> Hello linux friends! :-)
[12:13] <crackerjackz> hello mernil
[12:13] <DragonLarma> hi mernil
[12:14] <mernil> i use slackware.. hope that's not a problem ;-)
[12:14] <knifepoint> Hey can anyone point me to a good tutorial to get cgi running in apache?
[12:14] <waylandbill> knifepoint: what language cgi?
[12:15] <ideal> Reading package lists... Done
[12:15] <ideal> Building dependency tree
[12:15] <ideal> Reading state information... Done
[12:15] <ideal> E: Couldn't find package glib
[12:15] <mernil> lamp.org has several good tutors
[12:15] <knifepoint> waylandbill: c++ cgi
[12:15] <mernil> i think it's lamp.org
[12:15] <Adantan_Alex> hi
[12:15] <mernil> hi alex
[12:15] <knifepoint> waylandbill: testing a uni assignment at home so need apache to run the c++ cgi
[12:16] <mernil> but c++ as cgi language..
[12:16] <knifepoint> mernil: yes
[12:17] <mernil> hm.. well.. it's a free country :-)
[12:17] <knifepoint> mernil: had it running at uni which is all set up i just want to do some testing at home
[12:17] <mernil> okay
[12:17] <Duskin> woot
[12:17] <waylandbill> knifepoint: I didn't think there was anything special needed for compiled cgi executables other than being in the cgi folder and having +x permission
[12:17] <Duskin> irc works
[12:17] <Aurora> hello?
[12:17] <eth01> mernil: topic! :)
[12:17] <mernil> eth01: hello there ;-P
[12:17] <Duskin> ubuntu rawks!
[12:17] <Survivorman> ideal, if you tried to sudo apt-get install glib, that won't work. You may need to sudo apt-cache search glib first and get a list of packages. I think it might be libglib2.0-0 or something.
[12:18] <eth01> hiya mernil, just stick on topic
[12:18] <Duskin> ok im outta here to get on my real irc server
[12:18] <mernil> im always on topic!
[12:18] <knifepoint> waylandbill: hmmm well both the folder and file have +x permisions and its not running the program just coming up as a download
[12:18] <Duskin> cyall laters!
[12:18] <dooba> oh sorry folks.  good morning :)
[12:18] <eth01> okay
[12:18] <Duskin> gah
[12:18] <ideal> Yes,I just made it by installing libglib2.0-0
[12:18] <mernil> dooba: good evening
[12:19] <ideal> thanks
[12:19] <Duskin> i didnt mean to come back here at all
[12:19] <Survivorman> np ideal
[12:19] <Smegzor> How good is ubuntu at communicating with usb printers?  It has endless trouble with my HP, but the cable and printer work great on XP.
[12:19] <dooba> oops! i forgot...some are eveing and some are night lol
[12:19] <Duskin> can someone help? im trying to connect to a different irc server
[12:19] <waylandbill> knifepoint: is the file located in the folder designated for cgi scripts as defined in apache's conf file?
[12:19] <Duskin> and im using x-chat
[12:20] <mernil> Duskin: try "/connect" server.org
[12:20] <con-man> Smegzor: Ubuntu should have no more trouble than any other distro of linux
[12:20] <dooba> right now, Duskin?
[12:20] <shauns> motd
[12:20] <mernil> works in irssi
[12:20] <Slart> Smegzor: well.. if it's a proper printer.. with it's own cpu and such, ubuntu probably supports it nicely.. if it's one of those host-based printers where the driver does all the work.. it probably doesn't
[12:20] <knifepoint> waylandbill: didnt know it matter i just created a cgi-bin and slapped it in there ill go check the conf file now
[12:20] <mernil> the numero uno irc-cliento!
[12:20] <Duskin> didnt work
[12:20] <Duskin> and yes, im using it right now
[12:20] <mernil> strange :-/
[12:20] <waylandbill> knifepoint: yup. Can't execute scripts just anywhere. :)
[12:20] <Smegzor> its a HP Photosmart 7450
[12:21] <dooba> sorry but what is that, mernil?
[12:21] <mernil> dooba: irssi.org .. the best irc-client according to me .. and many other
[12:21] <Smegzor> I have the latest HP linux driver for it, but it get better performance with a pencil.
[12:21] <Duskin> nevermind i found it
[12:21] <Duskin> thx though
[12:21] <knifepoint> waylandbill: well thats silly as if security is important :P
[12:21] <mernil> yw
[12:21] <Slart> Smegzor: sounds like a host-based printer to me
[12:22] <Smegzor> I'm pretty sure it is
[12:22] <Slart> Smegzor: but check www.linuxprinting.org
[12:22] <Smegzor> ok
[12:22] <sunbird> hi everyone.
[12:22] <Skiessi> hi
[12:22] <sunbird> don't suppose anyone has the time/energy to help me figure out why 7.10x64
[12:22] <sunbird> won't recognize my internal bluetooth adapter.
[12:23] <Survivorman> Smegzor, do you have hpijs installed?
[12:23] <waylandbill> knifepoint: let me know if that was it. hopefully the uni will teach python for cgi. You'll feel like your in heaven then. :)
[12:23] <Smegzor> Survivorman: yes
[12:23] <alexander> #SLUG
[12:24] <knifepoint> waylandbill: yeah we're hitting up perl for the next assignment so thats a step up
[12:24] <dooba> thanks  for the recommendation! :)
[12:25] <sunbird> $ hcitool scan
[12:25] <sunbird> Device is not available: No such device
[12:25] <sunbird> :(
[12:25] <Slart> knifepoint: perl? a step up?.. oh my.. you're in for a surprise ;)
[12:25] <dooba> I'm very new to Linux and Ubuntu.  Just downloaded v6.06.1 and burnt onto a CD-R.
[12:25] <Survivorman> Smegzor, have you been here: http://hplip.sourceforge.net/install/index.html
[12:26] <sunbird> the weird thing is... i know it CAN work because i had it working after installing from the live CD>
[12:26] <adrock358> hello all.  ahve a question for you.  just rendered my os (vista) unusable.  I enlarged the partition, then could't boot from it.  i've tried everything.  and my question is, if i install vista on another partition (install it again), will I be able to browse my primary partition from there, transfer my data to my new vista os, and save the day?
[12:26] <sunbird> but then i did a new install from the alternate because i wanted to crypt my install.
[12:26] <dooba> read the ubuntu url and the support page referred me to here.  glad i did
[12:26] <Survivorman> Smegzor, it was referred to from the HP driver page for your printer
[12:26] <waylandbill> knifepoint: perl is written by a linguist. It's ironic because it's unreadable after writing. :)
[12:26] <gejr> dooba: 6.06..if i recall correctly latest version is 8.04. Don't think there's ever been a 6.06.1 ^^
[12:26] <Smegzor> Survivorman: Yeah and I updated to the latest version today - no joy
[12:26] <sunbird> adrock358: is your vista partition also your primary partition?
[12:27] <eth01> perl wasn't designed to be easy.
[12:27] <Survivorman> Smegzor, what seems to be the problem specifically. HP support tends to be great on Ubuntu :(
[12:27] <Smegzor> I don't think its the printer driver.  it seems to be a communications problem and there are log entries about it.
[12:27] <gejr> eth01: that's where you're wrong
[12:27] <eth01> gejr: how could i be wrong about that?
[12:27] <incorrect> is anyone aware of a VPN focused project?
[12:27] <adrock358> the reason why i am in this forum is because I am also an ubuntu user.  I use a dual boot, but had to erase the ubuntu partition too, because i've messed up my system.  so now i want to recover data, and reinstall.
[12:27] <adrock358> sunbird.  yes
[12:27] <knifepoint> waylandbill: yeah it does appear a little hacked up so many ways to do the same thing
[12:27] <dooba> Or was it v6.06.2, gejr?lol...\i can't reemeber fully
[12:27] <eth01> incorrect: openvpn
[12:27] <gejr> it's the primary example of a language that's "supposed to be easy"
[12:27] <incorrect> eth01, distribution
[12:27] <incorrect> like say freeNAS
[12:28] <gejr> eth01: its in the same boat as python and php
[12:28] <sunbird> adrock358: did you back up before resizing the partition?
[12:28] <eth01> incorrect: freenas, ipcop, clarkeconnect
[12:28] <adrock358> sunbird...no
[12:28] <adrock358> sunbird.  of course not.  otherwise i wouldn't be here in the forum
[12:28] <sunbird> adrock358: ack.
[12:28] <eth01> clarkconnect, even
[12:28] <adrock358> sunbird.  i know.
[12:28] <gejr> dooba: whichever it was, you're probably best of downloading the latest release ;) 6.X would indicate it's a release from 2006
[12:28] <adrock358> sunbird.  what
[12:28] <incorrect> i am looking for something like a linux vpn concentrator project
[12:28] <Evil_Ed> yo
[12:28] <zerod> sup
[12:28] <Smegzor> Survivorman: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61917/
[12:28] <dooba> all i remember is that it was the last version of ubuntu 6 before it went to v7.
[12:29] <Smegzor> Those are some of the problems being logged
[12:29] <gejr> dooba: that'd make it 6.10 edgy eft or something like that
[12:29] <eth01> incorrect: clarkconnect
[12:29] <sunbird> adrock358: what was your setup prior to repartitioning?
[12:29] <zerod> ok
[12:29] <adrock358> sunbird.  what's the best way to recover my data?  i tried the data recovery progs on hiren, but they ll seem very time consuming and confusing.
[12:29] <Evil_Ed> interest
[12:29] <dooba> gejr:  noooo....\i didn't chose Edgy Eft due to too high requirements. lol
[12:30] <gejr> dooba: ah..you've downloaded the LTS
[12:30] <adrock358> ubuntu-vista dual boot.  then i resized vista (enlarged it.  then I reinstalled ubuntu.  now, my computer won't boot to anything.  nothing loads.
[12:30] <dooba> correct gejr \;0
[12:30] <eth01> adrock358: mbr broke
[12:30] <crackerjackz> is there a way i can make it to where people cant press F12 when the computer is starting up to keep them from booting off a CD
[12:30] <gejr> dooba: 7.10 is the latest stable obviously. I'd go with that if i were you.
[12:30] <waylandbill> gejr: easy for extraction and report. not to read. I prefer sys.stdin to $_. :)
[12:30] <adrock358> sunbird.  i tried the vista recovery tools, didn't work.  tried to rebuild mbr, that didn't work.  tried to use hiren, that didn't fix it.
[12:30] <Gatestone> What is the state of art in reverse-engineering the Exchange protocol? Why is it that Blacberry, Visto, Smartner, Roadsync and bunch of other 3rd party tools to access Exchange from a phone does exist, but no real exchange client fot Linux? (OWA does not cut it, because out company OWA is behind a non-standard portal, restricted and useless).
[12:30] <eth01> crackerjackz: look at your BIOS. DEL.
[12:30] <incorrect> thanks
[12:31] <Skiessi> crackerjackz, probably not
[12:31] <crackerjackz> eth01 what would i be looking for in there?
[12:31] <DistroJockey> adrock358: this may be worth a look:  http://www.sysresccd.org
[12:31] <sunbird> adrock358: sorry. i had a similar problem in november and wasn't able to recover anything. :(
[12:31] <lksl> hi
[12:31] <eth01> Gatestone: there wouldn't seem a need to do so, so-to-speak.
[12:31] <gejr> waylandbill: and that's where you're correct. Perl is not necessarily easy to read:)
[12:31] <LadyNikon> abackup.. backup..backup
[12:31] <adrock358> sunbird. ubuntu-vista dual boot.  then i resized vista (enlarged it.  then I reinstalled ubuntu.  now, my computer won't boot to anything.  nothing loads.
[12:31] <dooba> gejr: v7.10 was too high requirement. :(  i don't have the latest computer.
[12:31] <Skiessi> crackerjackz, but you can make BIOS boot only from CD and add a passward for changing the settings
[12:31] <eth01> crackerjackz: well, nothing really. what bios is it?
[12:31] <kane77> dooba, what computer do you have?
[12:31] <LadyNikon> adrock358: please dont repeat yourself.
[12:31] <gejr> dooba: it's linux. Who cares about requirements? How crappy is this computer?
[12:31] <crackerjackz> eth01 im not sure which bios it is
[12:32] <Survivorman> Smegzor, from what I read (things such as the media jam error" and after googling a bit, it seems it might be a hardware issue more than likely
[12:32] <dooba> my computer?  crappy?  hardly gejr lol
[12:32] <crackerjackz> you see i had to reinstall ubuntu cuz some dickwad stuck a windows cd in it
[12:32] <Survivorman> *)
[12:32] <dooba> it works still good :)
[12:32] <sunbird> adrock358: if you repartitioned and did an install after the partition, you may have overwritten the files.
[12:32] <eth01> crackerjackz: somebody just suggested it. boot only from your HDD, and password protect BIOS wholly.
[12:32] <Slart> dooba: if you turn off the bling bling you can run 7.10 on almost anything..
[12:32] <crackerjackz> and i want to prevent that from happening again
[12:32] <gejr> all i know is that if you have an ancient pentium processor, don't go with gentoo.
[12:32] <gejr> or worse, for that matter
[12:32] <adrock358> distrojockey, eth01.  isn't there a way to install another os, then look at my files on the vista partition?  then i could back them up.
[12:32] <lksl> hi i got ubuntu on livecd and on thehard disk
[12:32] <lksl> how to check i m running on what ?
[12:32] <Survivorman> Smegzor, if indeed there is no jam and you have paper, etc
[12:32] <eth01> adrock358: hm
[12:32] <crackerjackz> thank you eth01
[12:32] <Acomaco> howto run a shell upon boot?
[12:32] <gejr> adrock358: you could use a live cd for that
[12:32] <Acomaco> with root rights
[12:33] <knifepoint> waylandbill: its not good if my httpd.conf file is empty right?
[12:33] <Gatestone> eth01, 1000 million people work for companies that use Exchange mail. Do you say there is no need for them to access that from Linux?
[12:33] <joep> I'm back.
[12:33] <Skiessi> huh what did eth01 do?
[12:33] <DistroJockey> adrock358: that link I provided should do that
[12:33] <dooba> gejr: i have Pentium 2 @ 400mhz.  390 mb RAM
[12:33] <Slart> lksl: well.. you could check where your root drive is mounted from
[12:33] <Smegzor> Survivorman: its definitely not jamming :(
[12:33] <Acomaco> knifepoint it doesn't matter..
[12:33] <waylandbill> crackerjackz: disable booting from CD in the bios, or remove the cd drive entirely.
[12:33] <AlabamaHit> Hello
[12:33] <gejr> dooba: sounds more than sufficient for ubuntu 7.10^^
[12:33] <Slart> lksl: cat /etc/mtab might work
[12:33] <adrock358> sunbird.  but my vista os, still shows up as an os.  i didn't overwrite the files at all.  they are all still there, I am sure of it.  it's just that my os won't load for some reason.
[12:33] <DistroJockey> adrock358: a live cd is what it is
[12:33] <Slart> dooba: indeed.. go with 7.10
[12:33] <Smegzor> I'll change the cable, u never know..
[12:33] <eth01> Gatestone: i'm not debating it in here :)
[12:33] <joep> I installed exaile and loaded some .wav files but no sound. Any suggestions?
[12:33] <eth01> Skiessi: what?
[12:33] <dooba> i take it 7.10 is the consensus? lol :)
[12:34] <prodigel> Hi. I'm searching for some way to add a new item to right-click menu like send-to -> floppy that runs a script for mount/copy/umount actions. Do you know an efficient method for this?
[12:34] <Slart> dooba: I'm running xubuntu on a mini-itx machine.. 600mhz with 256 mb.. works nicely
[12:34] <Survivorman> Smegzor, are you on a hub?
[12:34] <adrock358> distrojockey.  I am on my livecd, and my internet connec crashes if i open a browser window in addition to another internet app.  (darn usb wifi).
[12:34] <lksl> ok thx Slart
[12:34] <knifepoint> Acomaco: so if i put one line ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /usr/local/apache/cgi-bin/ in it ill be fine?
[12:34] <crackerjackz> also im looking for a way to padlock my computer case so no one can access my HD
[12:34] <waylandbill> is it empty, or is it nonexistent?
[12:34] <Smegzor> no its connected to usb on my pc
[12:34] <AlabamaHit> I have a question I thought I saw an option earlier now I can't find it. That I could make a Live CD from my install of linux I have now. I have 7.10...Am I mistaken or is there a way to do this?
[12:34] <crackerjackz> any one know of a case that already exist thats made for keeping people out
[12:34] <fernando> Hi!
[12:34] <gejr> crackerjackz: like..rig it with explosives and metal-eating acid?
[12:34] <adrock358> gejr, a windows livecd, or a linux live cd?
[12:34] <crackerjackz> lol gejr
[12:35] <Matic`Makovec> Hrm....when I try to connect to my mobile phone over bluetooth it says obex://etc is not a valid location. Any idea how to solve this?
[12:35] <sunbird> adrock358: plug in ethernet?
[12:35] <waylandbill> crackerjackz: there are cases that take padlocks, but someone who wants in will get in
[12:35] <gejr> adrock358: definately a linux live cd. Is there such a thing as a windows live cd?
[12:35] <fernando> there is a mistake on an ubuntu aplication update ...someone could correct it?
[12:35] <Smegzor> Survivorman: it worked great on XPee running in VirtualBox but I'm now using the OSE version so no USB.
[12:35] <fernando> W: Falha ao obter http://pt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/t/tzdata/tzdata_2008a-0ubuntu0.7.10_all.deb
[12:35] <fernando>   404 Not Found
[12:35] <Survivorman> Smegzor, then perhaps try the new cable. It seems it may very well be a cable/usb issue
[12:35] <waylandbill> crackerjackz: is it located in a public place or something?
[12:35] <DistroJockey> gejr: yeah, there is
[12:35] <crackerjackz> waylandbill this is true but itll help
[12:35] <crackerjackz> waylandbill no its in my bed room
[12:35] <adrock358> sunbird.  that's in my dad's room.  it's too early to go in there.  7:00am or so here.... :)
[12:35] <crackerjackz> but im a very untrusting person
[12:36] <dooba> ok.  so then I'll have to put in a 650Mhz P3 . lol
[12:36] <Survivorman> Smegzor, it's beyond me. Good luck
[12:36] <crackerjackz> exspecially after what happened yesterday
[12:36] <Smegzor> thanks :)
[12:36] <DistroJockey> gejr: it's called winpe
[12:36] <waylandbill> crackerjackz: you must have a high traffic bedroom.
[12:36] <Gudarnasgud> need a little help here
[12:36] <Slart> crackerjackz: well.. many cases have premade holes for running metal wires through them..  I've used those where I work (school)
[12:36] <crackerjackz> waylandbill yes i have alot of people in and out of my house
[12:36] <adrock358> gejr.  how would I get info on doing that?  what I want to do is put in on another partition....or my ipod...one or the other.  I'd like to create a new partition, then put it on that.
[12:36] <sunbird> adrock358: hurm. live cd is the best bet. wish i could give you better advice. it's so frustrating dealing with potential data loss.
[12:37] <waylandbill> crackerjackz: guess you need to start doing background checks. :)
[12:37]  * dooba watches the ppl chat....and scribbles down recommendations. :)
[12:37] <crackerjackz> lol
[12:37] <abhi_> can anyone help me edit MIME types? I want to remove a MIME type. what are the steps?
[12:37] <abhi_> i want to remove a MIME type for GNOME to be more specific
[12:37] <fernando> is there a PT group for ubuntu?
[12:37] <Slart> pt?
[12:37] <waylandbill> crackerjackz: I have plenty of visitors, but i can't say they make it to my bedroom.
[12:37] <crackerjackz> i would just say no ones allowed in the house but its not my house so cant really have a say so on that
[12:37] <kane77> !pt | fernando
[12:37] <ubotu> fernando: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[12:37] <crackerjackz> well when im here i can watch things
[12:37] <crackerjackz> but when im gone is what im worried about
[12:38] <adrock358> gejr.  what i want to do is resize the windows partition to free up some space, then put my info on that partion, then erase windows, then install vista and ubuntu again.  but i will need to see the data from one of the os's.
[12:38] <adrock358> sunbird.  no prob.  Thanks a lot man.
[12:38] <fernando> ubotu: I can have help in english
[12:38] <fernando> ubotu: W: Falha ao obter http://pt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/t/tzdata/tzdata_2008a-0ubuntu0.7.10_all.deb
[12:38] <fernando>   404 Not Found
[12:38] <crackerjackz> i wanna put a padlock on the case, make it to where itll boot off HD only and password protect the bios
[12:38] <fernando> here is the problem
[12:38] <dooba> Just tired of Windoze and I need a change.  That's why I came here for help and advise.
[12:38] <Robeijksjdskdj> hi! i've got a bad problem on Gutsy: I changed the login screen, and now I can't log in at all: when starting, it says "Greeter application crashed, attempting to use another one" - upon which I get the same error message, in a loop... i'm online using live-cd...
[12:38] <kane77> abhi_, afaik mime types are stored in /usr/share/mime/
[12:38] <adrock358> distrojockey.  i'll check out that link.
[12:38] <pihhan> hello
[12:38] <AlabamaHit> I have a question I thought I saw an option earlier now I can't find it. That I could make a Live CD from my install of linux I have now. I have 7.10...Am I mistaken or is there a way to do this?
[12:39] <crackerjackz> dooba before you switch to linux i would look up all your hardware first
[12:39] <waylandbill> crackerjackz: that sounds like a good plan.
[12:39] <IdleOne> !clone  | AlabamaHit
[12:39] <ubotu> AlabamaHit: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[12:39] <pihhan> is there known and simple way to set some metric to all network manager routes?
[12:39] <joep> Is somebody here with knowledge about the ubuntu way of using sound boards. My version (64-bit ubuntu 7.10) doesn't want to see the Sb board although lspci shows it's recognized.
[12:39] <abhi_> kane77: ok i have this runaway mime type which i want to edit
[12:39] <abhi_> sorry delete
[12:39] <Skiessi> there really should be a program to install stuff to other hard drives
[12:39] <Adantan_Alex> hey guys
[12:39] <Skiessi> hi
[12:39] <Adantan_Alex> im trying to install xubuntu but it wouldnt make a difference here
[12:39] <dooba> tanks craker! :)
[12:39] <Adantan_Alex> now
[12:39] <fernando> join #ubuntu-pt
[12:40] <Freakylinks> Does any1 know how to install the latest version of amsn on a fresh gutsy installation?
[12:40] <Slart> fernando: don't forget the /    /join #ubuntu-pt
[12:40] <Adantan_Alex> i loaded xubuntu on a live CD
[12:40] <Robeijksjdskdj> hi! i've got a bad problem on Gutsy: I changed the login screen, and now I can't log in at all: when starting, it says "Greeter application crashed, attempting to use another one" - upon which I get the same error message, in a loop... i'm online using live-cd...
[12:40] <Sjimmie> !automate
[12:40] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[12:40] <crackerjackz> your welcome dooba
[12:40] <DistroJockey> adrock358: Using  sudo fdisk -l  , find the NTFS device name, then mount it (e.g.    mkdir /mnt/vista && mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/vista  )
[12:40] <pihhan> joep: lspci list only devices in slots, you need to find driver for your card, or tell us what model you have
[12:40] <kane77> Freakylinks, sudo aptitude install amsn doesn't work?
[12:40] <waylandbill> joep: did you look at 'dmesg' and verify that the card is not found? if so, you want to 'lsmod' and see if the module was loaded into the kernel
[12:40] <DistroJockey> adrock358: try that if you haven't first^
[12:40] <adrock358> distrojockey.  ok waht next?
[12:41] <adrock358> distrojockey.  ok.  i will
[12:41] <adrock358> distrojockey.  then i can repartition some things and move my data to a new aprtition?
[12:41] <Adantan_Alex> someone help lol
[12:41] <knifepoint> waylandbill: Im gonna go sit in my corner now... i was testing the file on my desktop which wasn't on apache hence why it wouldnt open
[12:41] <Freakylinks> kane77: yeah but i install with everything right.. although when i try to star the app, a output error pop out telling me about a tcxcimage...sometin like that..
[12:41] <knifepoint> waylandbill: works fine now.... :P
[12:41] <joep> Thanks for the suggestions. I will do an lsmod for the Sb modules.
[12:41] <DistroJockey> adrock358: I wouldn't try repartitioning until you have a backup
[12:41] <Robeijksjdskdj> could someone help me? hi! i've got a bad problem on Gutsy: I changed the login screen, and now I can't log in at all: when starting, it says "Greeter application crashed, attempting to use another one" - upon which I get the same error message, in a loop... i'm online using live-cd...
[12:42] <Slart> Adantan_Alex: what's the problem?
[12:42] <knifepoint> waylandbill: thanks for the help
[12:42] <waylandbill> knifepoint: n/p
[12:42] <adrock358> distrojeckey.  then only space i have free is a 50 gb partition.  i suppose that will suffice.  i can move the data to that part. right?
[12:42] <gejr> adrock358: sounds complicated. I'd move everything i wanted onto a usb stick or external HD and wipe the whole disk and repartition it.
[12:42] <Adantan_Alex> ok im installing xubuntu
[12:42] <Adantan_Alex> and
[12:42] <Smegzor> Survivorman: I think I fixed the problem.  I plugged the printer into my front-side usb and its working now :O
[12:42] <AlabamaHit> !automate
[12:42] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[12:42] <mzuverink> could some please enlighten me as to the command to enable userdir in apache2?
[12:43] <AlabamaHit> what is that?
[12:43] <DistroJockey> adrock358: possibly
[12:43] <joep> Yes I did that and as far as I can see all modules referring to sound are there.
[12:43] <Slart> Adantan_Alex: take a deep breath.. then explain your problem on one line if possible.. keep your finger off that enter-key until you're done explaining =)
[12:43] <Survivorman> Smegzor, great! Must be some poor connection. Glad to hear it.
[12:43] <dooba> cracker: Can older hardware work on 7.10?  Got various audio cards and video cards, mostly PCI but a few AGP 1 or 2.  yes my motherboard is older. lol
[12:43] <Adantan_Alex> ....
[12:43] <Robeijksjdskdj> i can't reinstall my system because I'd lose music/pictures/videos, I can't backup those things because it won't give me access from the livecd. how do I change permissions?
[12:44] <waylandbill> joep: do you have /dev/dsp ?
[12:44] <idealab_loco> REGISTER idealab
[12:44] <DistroJockey> adrock358: if you want to pastebin the  sudo fdisk -l  results, it may help
[12:44] <pihhan> joep: can you provide output of lspci | grep -i audio?
[12:44] <Lainy> Hello, I'm trying to install gkrellm from a .deb package, because the one in synaptic is not the newest version. Can someone tell me which file to download on the download page? http://packages.debian.org/sid/gkrellm I'm using Ubuntu 7.10. Thanks.
[12:44] <Slart> Robeijksjdskdj: what kind of filesystem is on the drive you're trying to access
[12:44] <Robeijksjdskdj> could someone help me?  i've got a bad problem on Gutsy: I changed the login screen, and now I can't log in at all: when starting, it says "Greeter application crashed, attempting to use another one" - upon which I get the same error message, in a loop... i'm online using live-cd...
[12:45] <Robeijksjdskdj> um, i think ext3
[12:45] <Robeijksjdskdj> don't know exactly
[12:45] <adrock358> gejr.  i only have my thirty gig ipod.  but that could work if i put some data on another hd i have, and do that twice.  gejr.  so what you are saying is I can move the data to my ipod from the ubuntu livecd?
[12:45] <Robeijksjdskdj> default gutsy install
[12:45] <guycook> Do I want to use "Twin View" for dual monitors in ubuntu?
[12:45] <Dr_willis> guycook,  if you have a nvidia card - yes.
[12:45] <Slart> Robeijksjdskdj: probably ext3 then.. but I can't figure out why the live cd wouldn't let you access an ext3-partition..
[12:45] <gejr> adrock358: i've never tried to mount an ipod from a live cd, but if you manage to do that, then yes. It'd definately work.
[12:45] <Robeijksjdskdj> i can access the partition
[12:45] <guycook> So that I can drag from one screen to the other right Dr_willis ?
[12:45] <pihhan> Lainy: it does not work this way, you have to find source with newer package, or some backport for gutsy. Package from debian sid might be different
[12:45] <waylandbill> Lainy: you will run into dependency hell using debian sid packages. Why not build from source from project's site?
[12:46] <guycook> Yes i'ts nvidia
[12:46] <Dr_willis> guycook,  twinview can make both monitors one big wide screen
[12:46] <adrock358> gejr.  yeah, my ipod is mounted already.  that sounds awesome.  how would i go about doing that?
[12:46] <Lainy> pihhan, waylandbill: Okay, thanks.
[12:46] <Adantan_Alex> any way i want to install xubuntu and the task bar wont show.... my computer has 256 megabytes of memory and so if i install it will it show?
[12:46] <Robeijksjdskdj> i can access my home folder... but not the folders of music, video, etc
[12:46] <Dr_willis> !twinview | guycook
[12:46] <ubotu> guycook: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[12:46] <Adantan_Alex> i checked the disc and its good
[12:46] <elbermungsterses> hi, how do you empty your /var/cache/apt/archives?
[12:46] <Dr_willis> guycook,  twinview replaces 'xinerama' :) in funcationality
[12:46] <adrock358> distrojockey.  the way gejr is descriving sounds easeier.  i think I'd like to do that.
[12:46] <dooba> ok.  this channel is probably a bit too much to ask here for me as a beginner. lol! :)    Maybe emailing is better?
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> Robeijksjdskdj: check the owner
[12:46] <Survivorman> Robeijksjdskdj, you could open nautilus as root?
[12:47] <pihhan> Lainy: try to find same package from ubuntu 8 beta, that would be better choice. you might need recompile them however
[12:47] <waylandbill> elbermungsterses: sudo apt-get autoclean
[12:47] <DistroJockey> adrock358: pastebin the output of  sudo fdisk -l  please?
[12:47] <fernando> is someone here able to talk about pt ubuntu server?
[12:47] <Robeijksjdskdj> hm. it says owner is "1000"
[12:47] <joep> pibhan: yes I have /dev/dsp and I have found that lspci gives the various slots for the SB card although ububtu apparently doesn't want to use lspci -i but uses some database file in usr/share/misc.
[12:47] <adrock358> distrojockey.  sorry for the misspelling.  there's like 10 things on my desk right now that are in my way.
[12:47] <DistroJockey> adrock358: fair enough
[12:47] <Lainy> pihhan: Alright.
[12:47] <guycook> Dr_willis, thanks I"m finding now that I need to run nvidia-settings as root it seems
[12:47] <DistroJockey> adrock358: np
[12:47] <guycook> Dr_willis, or I mean sudo right?
[12:47] <Adantan_Alex> any way i want to install xubuntu and the task bar wont show.... my computer has 256 megabytes of memory and so if i install it will it show?
[12:47] <Adantan_Alex> i checked the disc and its good
[12:47] <gejr> adrock358: i guess the ipod can be used like an external harddrive. Just create a folder on it and copy your music/documents/pictures/porn there :) at least that's how other mp3 players i've used works
[12:47] <Dr_willis> guycook,  since its a 'system setting' kind of tool.. that makes logical sence. :)
[12:48] <Survivorman> in a terminal can you sudo nautilus /home/yourhome/ and gain access from the livecd that way?
[12:48] <Robeijksjdskdj> @survivorman ok, so you mean rebooting into failsafe mode and then doing "nautilus"
[12:48] <dooba> hi lin
[12:48] <Robeijksjdskdj> ?
[12:48] <pihhan> joep: does  aplay -l show something interesting, without error?
[12:48] <waylandbill> pihhan: probably would need to get that from backports. I'm sure trying a hardy package would have unsatisfied dependencies.
[12:48] <adrock358> gejr.  but how do i mount my hd partition so that I can copy info from it.  i think i have to be root.
[12:48] <Adantan_Alex> can someone help?
[12:48] <Robeijksjdskdj> i'll try
[12:48] <b4l74z4r> is there a way to get ubuntu to set turn on num lock by default, like windows does?
[12:48] <Survivorman> Robeijksjdskdj, you should be able to get root access in a livecd session.
[12:48] <Survivorman> I think
[12:48] <DistroJockey> adrock358: I gave those instructions :)
[12:48] <adrock358> gejr.  it won't mount my hd.
[12:48] <LGKeiz> Whats a good music player for ubuntu that supports alot of codecs >.>;
[12:48] <LGKeiz> I can't find any :p
[12:49] <adrock358> distrojockey.  ok, let me try that.  thanks.
[12:49] <joep> pibhan: yes: it says: device list:204 no soundcards found..
[12:49] <DistroJockey> adrock358: np
[12:49] <Slart> LGKeiz: what kind of sound files do you want to play?
[12:49] <gejr> adrock358: sudo mount /dev/sd<tab><tab> /mnt/whatever_directory
[12:49] <adrock358> gejr.  i'm going to try to mount with distr's instructions.
[12:49] <Acomaco> LGKeiz, vlc
[12:49] <Survivorman> if think the root password is root on a livecd session Robeijksjdskdj
[12:49] <LGKeiz> though so
[12:49] <gejr> might need to add a -t ntfs there
[12:49] <Slart> LGKeiz: audacious, xmms, amarok, mpd
[12:49] <Acomaco> LGKeiz amarok is nice also
[12:49] <gooody> i'm a newbie and i need help
[12:50] <dooba> welcome to the world, gooody .  so am i
[12:50] <pihhan> joep: what soundcard do you have?
[12:50] <gejr> exaile/banshee are nice music players
[12:50] <gooody> any1 can help me?
[12:50] <elbermungsterses> thnx
[12:50] <gejr> but i prefer mpd =)
[12:50] <Slart> gooody: well.. my telepathy is a bit rusty.. we'll have to do this the old-fashioned way.. you'll have to tell me what the problem is
[12:50] <Robeijksjdskdj> @Survivorman thanks, that worked.
[12:50] <pihhan> gooody: if you say what is your problem, we might be able to tell you solution
[12:51] <LGKeiz> Ok Im hearing no sound from VLC :p
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> !hel p| gooody
[12:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hel p - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:51] <LGKeiz> at all.
[12:51] <Robeijksjdskdj> @Survivorman I think what I'll now do is that I'll backup my stuff and then reinstall completely. it just sucks having to do that just because of a faulty login screen!!
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> !help | gooody
[12:51] <ubotu> gooody: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:51] <mernil> unbelivable .. not a singel person on gaim :-O
[12:51] <joep> pibhan: soundblaster live 5.1 but it works without a ptoblem with my other distribution (Fedora 7) so I think there is something different somwhere in the alsa-chain.
[12:52] <mernil> Hi all btw! :-)
[12:52] <pihhan> LGKeiz: are you sure you have correct settings in vlc? does vlc play sounds with other files?
[12:52] <guycook> Dr_willis, the nvidia-settings in sudo from the prompt doesn't 'see' the 2nd monitor?
[12:52] <Slart> mernil: you're still using gaim? why not pidgin?
[12:52] <adrock358> distrojockey http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62009/
[12:52] <Adantan_Alex> any way i want to install xubuntu and the task bar wont show.... my computer has 256 megabytes of memory and so if i install it will it show?
[12:52] <guycook> Dr_willis, doesn't detect it?
[12:52] <Adantan_Alex> i checked the disc and it work
[12:52] <Survivorman> I'm not an expert here, but does anyone know if reconfiguring or reinstalling gdm would fix Robeijksjdskdj greeter crashing problem potentially?
[12:52] <Adantan_Alex> works*
[12:52] <mernil> Slart: i meant pidgin .. old habits die hard.. :-)
[12:52] <LGKeiz> pihhan; >.>;..uhm
[12:52] <LGKeiz> let me check.
[12:52] <adrock358> distrojockey.  i followed your instructs, but i ahve to be root.
[12:52] <Slart> mernil: =)
[12:53] <Dr_willis> guycook,  you have 2 video cards? or 1 card with 2  video outs? - I normally use the nvidia-xconfig tool to enable twinview from the command line.
[12:53] <pihhan> Survivorman: if he does purge on uninstalation, propably yes, it should fix it
[12:53] <collo> collo
[12:53] <Slart> gooody: to install screenlets.. hmm.. hang on
[12:53] <dooba> ok.  is there an email addy i can ask for help then?  thanks. :)
[12:53] <gooody> i want to know how to install screenlets in ubuntu gutsy
[12:53] <adrock358> distrojockey.  brb
[12:53] <DistroJockey> adrock358: ohh, I get the same, sorry
[12:54] <LGKeiz> um what settings do I need to chang ein VLC
[12:54] <Survivorman> so sudo aptitude purge gdm and then sudo apt-get install gdm?
[12:54] <collo> is this the only room?
[12:54] <doktoreas> hello everybody
[12:54] <dooba> lo dok :)
[12:54] <JoeLinux117> gooody: sudo aptitude install screenlets
[12:54] <doktoreas> anyone knows a software that generates a diagram from a postgreSQL db?
[12:54] <Robeijksjdskdj> @pihhan so you think i should reboot into failsafe mode and then "sudo aptitude purge gdm and then sudo apt-get install gdm"?
[12:54] <LGKeiz> pihhan; what settings do I need to change?
[12:54] <Slart> gooody: try searching for screenlets in synaptic (system, administration, synaptic package manager)
[12:55] <guycook> Dr_willis, I have one card with 2 outputs one analog and one digital
[12:55] <Survivorman> Robeijksjdskdj, back the stuff up first, then give it a try
[12:55] <sunbird> which FS should i use for a 150GB backup drive? i need to backup my machine (ubuntu/osx DB) and my partner's machine (windows), so i need it to be reliably writable in (at least) windows and ubuntu.
[12:55] <Robeijksjdskdj> ok, shall do.
[12:55] <pihhan> Robeijksjdskdj: you should switch to terminal before, dont do that from running session
[12:55] <guycook> Dr_willis, nvidia-xconfig at the prompt as sudo right?
[12:55] <Robeijksjdskdj> @pihhan when i reboot into failsafe all i have is a terminal.... is that what you mean?
[12:55] <pihhan> Robeijksjdskdj: alt+ctrl+f1 to terminal, it should be safe from there
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> LGKeiz: does play work? does amarok work?
[12:56] <Robeijksjdskdj> ok, i'll try that then
[12:56] <Dr_willis> guycook, since its a 'system wide' type config tool... of course. :)
[12:56] <Slart> sunbird: well.. windows is a bit picky when it comes to file systems.. there is drivers for ext3 for windows but I don't know how good they are
[12:56] <Survivorman> thanks for the help pihhan
[12:56] <Dr_willis> !ext3
[12:56] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[12:56] <Robeijksjdskdj> yeah, thanks pihhan and surivorman!!
[12:56] <LGKeiz> ..I hit play on VLC
[12:56] <LGKeiz> and ..
[12:56] <Survivorman> np Robeijksjdskdj
[12:56] <LGKeiz> it moves, the progress bar, but no sound :p
[12:56] <joep> Robeijsksjkdj: Linux doesn't know anything about failsave: tha's MS talk. In Linux you sart in console mode. I think that you should do that and start looking in the problem.
[12:56] <pihhan> Robeijksjdskdj: yes, you need text terminal
[12:56] <Dr_willis> The ext3 driver for windows works decently well.
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> LGKeiz: is the volume up on evceything
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> speakers on
[12:57] <mernil> i prefer reiserFS .. it's a killer filesystem!
[12:57] <Dr_willis> failsafe mode under linux = you append the 'single' option to the kernel boot optiuons. so you just get a shell.. heh heh
[12:57] <dooba> thanks folks.  I'll be back sometime soon :)
[12:57] <LGKeiz> yep
[12:57] <LGKeiz> or I wouldnt be on skype right now
[12:57] <LGKeiz> lol
[12:57] <Slart> mernil: well.. it's creator seems to be at least ;)
[12:57] <guycook> Dr_willis, when I type sudo nvidia-xconfig it just comes back to the prompt after backing up the X11/xorg.conf file
[12:57] <gooody> i found screenlets in gnome-look.org but i don't know how to install them
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> ok so its VLC config that needs tweeaking only, yes?
[12:57] <mernil> Slart: mm ;-)
[12:57] <Slart> bah.. it's... its..
[12:58] <pihhan> joep: not exactly, ubuntu makes grub entries and i think it does call them recovery mode, it is similar to safe mode from user view
[12:58] <sunbird> Slart, mernil: i know reiser isn't writable in windows, but is it readable?
[12:58] <Dr_willis> guycook,  you need to give it the proper optiions as to what you want to set.  i 'think' the option is --twinview - check its advanced HELP docs with  nvidia-xconfig  -A (i think)
[12:58] <mernil> sunbird: no idea, i would say no
[12:58] <Survivorman> goody, you need to install screenlets first. Then you can run screenletsmanager I think to install them
[12:58] <pihhan> sunbird: with free drivers i believe it is not even readable
[12:58] <LGKeiz> ActionParsnip probably.
[12:58] <joep> Robeijsksjkdj: If you are in graphic mode type shift-Ctrl-1 and you are in the first console screen.
[12:59] <Dr_willis> guycook,  you may wan tbo backup your existing/working xorg.conf file first also.
[12:59] <guycook> Dr_willis, that backup was done already on my first try
[12:59] <guycook> Dr_willis, I'll try the HELP docs, this should be easier I"m thinking :)
[12:59] <Dr_willis> guycook,  i perfer to keep my own archived backups. :) i dont  trust the things
[12:59] <pihhan> dont you know if there is recently new intel i950 driver able to run games using recent wine?
[12:59] <Dr_willis> guycook,  takes me all of 20 sec or so to get a new system working with twinview. :)
[12:59] <Slart> mernil: I have no idea.. never tried
[13:00] <sunbird> mernil, pihhan: thx for the info.
[13:00] <Robeijksjdskdj> shift-ctrl-1 or alt-ctrl-f1?
[13:00] <guycook> ah so I just have to create a user :)
[13:00] <Dr_willis> guycook,  sudo nvidia-xconfig --twinview
[13:00] <mernil> Slart and sunbird .. i dont know.. i just have windows when i look att pr0n.. so.. ;-)
[13:00] <gooody> how can i install screenlets in synaptic?
[13:00] <Dr_willis> guycook,  you DID have the 2nd monitor plugged in when you booted the system?
[13:00] <juan_> hey i setup a http server to copy files over from an broken laptop, how do i do this, is wget the best way?
[13:01] <LGKeiz> ok I hear ubuntu sounds now
[13:01] <LGKeiz> but no VLC sounds.
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> LGKeiz: check out your /var/xorg.0.log
[13:01] <idealab_loco> Hello
[13:01] <Dr_willis> !screenlets
[13:01] <ubotu> Screenlets are little widgets for your !desktop. Note you must have !Compiz Fusion, !Beryl, xcompmgr, or KWin to run them. You can get them at http://www.screenlets.org/
[13:01] <gejr> juan_: from linux to linux? what's wrong with nfs?
[13:01] <LGKeiz> It's empty Action
[13:01] <joep> pihhan: apparently no sound devices are registered any idea where to look?
[13:01] <guycook> Dr_willis, yes, the 2nd monitor is on and plugged in
[13:01] <gejr> juan_: or..don't you have root access?
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> LGKeiz: Pretty easy fix. Hardy uses the pulseaudio sound system by default and VLC is trying to use ALSA as the vlc pulseaudio plugin isn't installed by default. Install the package "vlc-plugin-pulse" and VLC will play nice with everything else.
[13:02] <Dr_willis> guycook,  ive seen some nvidia cards. that do not like it if you plug in the monitor AFTER the system has allready booted.
[13:02] <Tu13es> hm, how can I run something in the background in terminal so that it doesn't quit when I close the terminal window?
[13:02] <gejr> juan_: even ftp in would be simpler than setting up a httpd..well well..it's a matter of taste i suppose
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> Tu13es: use command &
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> e.g. firefox &
[13:02] <Dr_willis> Tu13es,  use command &  and   the exit command, do NOT use the close button
[13:02] <juan_> i have root access, but no screen, i borrowed a monitor so i just set up a http server as its the fasted thing to do, how would i set up an ftp server
[13:02] <mernil> but im now running on a 416 Mhz.. processor with 196Mhz memory .. but.. i do have a 3 Gighertz processor + 2 Gig memory within armreach.. but i cant get it to work..
[13:02] <Slart> Tu13es: well.. you can use the nohup command.. but that is evil in its own way... just the & won't keep it running after you close the terminal
[13:02] <Tu13es> ah
[13:02] <Tu13es> exit it is
[13:03] <Tu13es> maybe?
[13:03]  * Tu13es tries
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> juan_:  install ftpd :)
[13:03] <gooody> what is the minimum system requirements in order to install compiz, beryl or others?
[13:03] <Dr_willis> juan_,  i would think setting up a ssh server would be faster. :)
[13:03] <mernil> f00king annoying i must say :-/
[13:03] <pihhan> joep: give me output of "lspci | grep -i audio" and i can help you find, if there exists working driver for your card
[13:03] <gejr> Dr_willis: transferring huge files over the encrypted ssh is a pita.
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> gooody: not that much. if your system is 4 years old or younger its fine
[13:03] <Slart> Tu13es: you can run it with another process as the parent.. I can't really remember the command now.. but there is a way
[13:03] <juan_> ActionParsnip: then how do i get it to host my /home
[13:03] <LGKeiz> Ok I apt-get that, but what do I do next?
[13:03] <Dr_willis> gejr,  but its easy to setup. :)
[13:03] <guycook> Dr_willis, I will try to figure out if I have x-chat on that ubuntu install so I'm seeing your text there instead of here on this computer.
[13:03] <b4l74z4r> when i right click and select properties for a file link in nautilus i'm not able to see the full path that it links to, only the last few directories, what shoul i do to see the full path?
[13:04] <juan_> in kde setting up http was drag and drop
[13:04] <Dr_willis> guycook,  sudo apt-get install xchat :)
[13:04] <mernil> what does puta means in spanish?
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> juan_: you config the ftp to start the server at your home drive
[13:04] <Dr_willis> !ohmy | mernil
[13:04] <ubotu> mernil: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[13:04] <Dr_willis> :)
[13:04] <Slart> mernil: woman who sells services.. for money..
[13:04] <Pici> !ot | mernil
[13:04] <ubotu> mernil: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[13:04] <mernil> ubotu: okay ;-P
[13:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about okay ;-p - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:04] <Dr_willis> mernil,  thats a way to get your face slapped - i found out...
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> LGKeiz: should be ok. restart VLC. I just googled it :)
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> LGKeiz: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vlc/+bug/188358
[13:04] <LGKeiz> there we go.
[13:04] <gejr> Tu13es: maybe something like /bin/sh -c scripttorun.sh &
[13:05] <joep> pihhan: here they are I only use the SB card:00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce3 250Gb AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a1)
[13:05] <joep> 02:08.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 0a)
[13:05] <gejr> starts a new shell so the one you run it in isn't closed
[13:05] <LGKeiz> uh
[13:05] <LGKeiz> what did I just push
[13:05] <LGKeiz> it muted.
[13:05] <LGKeiz> >.>;
[13:05] <LGKeiz> nvm
[13:05] <FloodBot3> LGKeiz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:05] <LGKeiz> ..sorry for talking like this.
[13:05] <guycook> Dr_willis, now I'm on the ubuntu computer
[13:05] <x3rox> Hello, can somebody, please, tell me how to configure a static IP address and routing on the command line in ubuntu 7 server?
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> LGKeiz: M = mute in VLC
[13:05] <gejr> x3rox: set static ip: ifconfig <interface> <ipaddress>
[13:06] <gejr> simple as that
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> LGKeiz: http://www.keyxl.com/aaa4cff/235/VLC-keyboard-shortcuts.htm
[13:06] <gooody> can i run compiz fusion or beryl on a pentium 4 PC with a built-in  videocard?
[13:06] <juan_> yes
[13:06] <LGKeiz> Okay, I must be stupid or something, only the left ear peice is working.
[13:06] <LGKeiz> nvm got it.
[13:06] <x3rox> I meant that the machine automatically starts with a static IP address...
[13:06] <LGKeiz> Thanks.
[13:06] <gejr> gooody: it'd depend mostly on the quality of that videocard
[13:06] <JoeLinux117> x3rox: You have to edit /etc/network/interfaces
[13:07] <gejr> i tried it on an integrated intel gpu with a better processor than you have, and it was pretty slow.
[13:07] <JoeLinux117> x3rox: Hold on, let me pull up my Ubuntu 7.10 Server's file...
[13:07] <Tu13es> hm, how do I tell my wifi to stop freaking scanning for APs? I'm not even using wifi.
[13:07] <adrock358> distrojockey you there?
[13:07] <DistroJockey> adrock358: yup
[13:07] <x3rox> JoeLinux117: looks currently very "DHCP"... Which syntax does it need?
[13:08] <collo> rachelle
[13:08] <adrock358> distrojockey what should i do?
[13:08] <DistroJockey> adrock358: try    sudo mkdir /mnt/vistamnt    then    sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/vistamnt    (change /dev/sda1 to your vista/ntfs device name, you can use something else in place of vistamnt too if you like)
[13:08] <JoeLinux117> x3rox: Do you see a line in the file that looks like "auto lo"?
[13:08] <guycook> Dr_willis, ERROR: Cannot open display 'guycook-ubuntux64:0.0 when I type sudo nvidia-settings at the prompt
[13:08] <JoeLinux117> x3rox: Is "lo" the only interface specified in the file?  Because that would default all other interfaces to DHCP.
[13:09] <guycook> Dr_willis, maybe my efforts have installed 32bit nvidia stuff on the x64 ubuntu?
[13:09] <gooody> how will i know the quality of a video or graphics card?
[13:09] <x3rox> JoeLinux117: Yes. It is followed by a line "iface eth0 inet dhcp", I assume here I must edit, but I don't know what to enter here (I usually use SuSE)
[13:09] <pihhan> joep: try to sudo modprobe snd_intel8x0 snd_ac97_codec, then check dmesg|tail if it report new sound card
[13:09] <JoeLinux117> x3rox: Oh ok, perfect.  Change "dhcp" to "static"
[13:09] <PowerTeam> Hi
[13:09] <gasbag> what causes jackd to get forked when i run audacity?
[13:09] <guycook> Dr_willis, maybe not I do have one monitor that is twice as wide I can 'scroll' as it if was 2 screens in one space.
[13:09] <JoeLinux117> x3rox: Then under that, you need to add parameters, like "address 192.168.1.12"
[13:10] <adrock358> distrojockey http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62012/
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> gooody: you'll need to either look at it physically or find out in the operating system
[13:10] <adrock358> distrojockey, says i need to be root
[13:10] <JoeLinux117> x3rox: Using that same syntax, "<parameter> <value>", add lines for "address", "netmask", "network", "broadcast", "gateway"
[13:10] <x3rox> And how do I set then the netmask and default GW ?
[13:10] <Dr_willis> guycook,    you perhaps need to do 'gksudo nvidia-settings' not sudio
[13:10] <adrock358> distrojockey.  i tried what you said
[13:10] <rachelle> hi everyone
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> !hi | rachelle
[13:10] <ubotu> rachelle: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[13:11] <JoeLinux117> x3rox: "netmask 255.255.255.0", then under that, "gateway 192.168.1.254", for example.
[13:11] <Dr_willis> guycook,  I have my monitiors set up where i just grab a window and move it to the 2nd monitor..  :)
[13:11] <LadyNikon> heya rachelle
[13:11] <rachelle> thanx!
[13:11] <LadyNikon> thats is the laziest trigger ever
[13:11] <maek> !gksudo
[13:11] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[13:11] <guycook> Dr_willis, that's what I'm trying to do too,
[13:11] <rachelle> omg i am soooo fried
[13:11] <JoeLinux117> x3rox: And you probably need automatic DNS servers set up, because you won't have DHCP doing it for you, right?
[13:12] <Dr_willis> guycook,  all i normnally have to do - is isntall the nvidia drivers, then run that  'sudo nvidia-xconfig --twinview' then restart the X server
[13:12] <mernil> man.. it's to much technical talk here
[13:12] <x3rox> Netmask is: 255.255.255.252 --> Which broadcast may I use, or is this not mandatory?
[13:12] <pihhan> joep: you might look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=370458 , that guy it seems same hardware as you and might be relevant for you
[13:12] <DistroJockey> adrock358: getting there. the last command you tried will need a sudo infront also, but as the error states, it may be dangerous
[13:12] <JoeLinux117> x3rox: I don't think you HAVE to use broadcast, but I always put it just for completeness sake.
[13:12] <Dr_willis> mernil,  what kind of talk would you rather be seeing?
[13:12] <Activeobserver> hello, i am really new with ubuntu and irc, and i was wondering if anyone can help me set up my wireless connection for a macbook intell
[13:12] <rachelle> am i purple?
[13:13] <guycook> Dr_willis, I have the drivers, I'll try that command, just log off to restart the x server or shut down all the way?
[13:13] <joep> pihhan: I did the modprobe as root (I am not accustomed to sud0) and it is apparently not installed as dmesg also didn't show anything.
[13:13] <JoeLinux117> x3rox: To get your DNS servers, add two more lines, "dns-nameservers <space-separated list of nameservers>"
[13:13] <PowerTeam> Been looking on howtos how to make synce to work in ubuntu, my problem is that the howto tells me to look for ttyusb0 or 1 etc...  all i can find when a look at dif before and after i connect the usb device is : 1a2
[13:13] <PowerTeam> > 2-2
[13:13] <PowerTeam> 670a672,675
[13:13] <PowerTeam> > usbdev2.9_ep00
[13:13] <PowerTeam> > usbdev2.9_ep03
[13:13] <PowerTeam> > usbdev2.9_ep81
[13:13] <FloodBot3> PowerTeam: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:13] <PowerTeam> > usbdev2.9_ep82
[13:13] <mernil> Dr_willis: a little more casual talk :-) About food and sports
[13:13] <Dr_willis> guycook,  hit alt-ctrl-backspace is how i do it.
[13:13] <polishpaul> hey guys, i have a lenovo T61 with Ubuntu - i have a problem when i come out of 'sleep' my network interfaces are down and i have to restart network services each time. Any ideas?
[13:13] <JoeLinux117> x3rox: Then under that, "dns-search <domain>", if you wish to specify that.
[13:13] <Dr_willis> mernil,  thats #debian  :P
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> Activeobserver: ok we'll need the outputs of lsusb and lspci
[13:13] <PowerTeam> sry about that
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> Activeobserver: use pastebin for the outputs
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> !paste | Activeobserver
[13:13] <ubotu> Activeobserver: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[13:13] <rachelle> i will talk about food??
[13:14] <Pici> !offtopic | mernil rachelle
[13:14] <ubotu> mernil rachelle: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[13:14] <Dr_willis> Real computer geeks only use coffe for food.
[13:14] <Activeobserver> 02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4328 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 03)
[13:14] <adrock358> distrojockey.  thanks i'm in
[13:14] <JoeLinux117> x3rox: That's really it, then restart networking to see if you got that IP address (or reboot if it's easier for you).
[13:14] <Activeobserver> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 05ac:8205 Apple Computer, Inc.
[13:14] <Activeobserver> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[13:14] <mernil> I am an amateur chef! Well.. i like cooking.
[13:14] <Activeobserver> Bus 007 Device 002: ID 05ac:8501 Apple Computer, Inc.
[13:14] <Activeobserver> Bus 007 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[13:14] <Activeobserver> Bus 006 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[13:14] <Activeobserver> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[13:14] <FloodBot3> Activeobserver: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:14] <Activeobserver> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> Activeobserver: pastebin dude
[13:15] <DistroJockey> adrock358: was about to say it's probably your only option :)
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> !paste | Activeobserver
[13:15] <ubotu> Activeobserver: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[13:15] <x3rox> JoeLinux117: Thank you. All I must get working is a ssh login. Then I can set this machine online and it will be configured then by that guy who enforced ubuntu. :-/
[13:15] <web_knows> hi
[13:15] <PowerTeam> hmm i quess it's complicated to get help here
[13:15] <Pici> ActionParsnip: No need to do !paste again, the bot says it right before it does the mute :)
[13:15] <idealab_loco> gOOD
[13:15] <Activeobserver> i dont know how to use paste bin
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> !help | PowerTeam:
[13:15] <ubotu> PowerTeam:: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[13:15] <idealab_loco> Good
[13:15] <Activeobserver> first time on irc
[13:15] <JoeLinux117> x3rox: Do you need help with the SSH?
[13:15] <LadyNikon> PowerTeam: not really.. just requires patience
[13:15] <guycook> Dr_willis, that worked!  Thank you very much
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> !ask | PowerTeam
[13:15] <ubotu> PowerTeam: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[13:15] <LadyNikon> Activeobserver: goto the link its pretty easy
[13:16] <pihhan> joep: check if aplay -l wouldnt report sound card now. or try only modproe snd_intel8x0
[13:16] <PowerTeam> ok
[13:16] <LadyNikon> and it stops the triggers
[13:16] <sunbird> polishpaul: did you try adding your network modules to /etc/default/acpi-support ?
[13:16] <JoeLinux117> x3rox: Oh, just to mention, I just realized that on another Ubuntu server I have, I only have address, netmask, and gateway specified.  So I guess you don't necessarily NEED the other ones.
[13:16] <joep> Thanks pihhan I will go there.
[13:16] <x3rox> JoeLinux117: it worked, so it should work on the other IP, too. (It currently ran in my LAN by DHCP configuration.
[13:16] <PowerTeam> !help synce
[13:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help synce - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:16] <Pici> PowerTeam: Just ask the question.
[13:16] <JoeLinux117> x3rox: Ok, great!
[13:16] <Activeobserver> i dont see a linl
[13:16] <guycook> Dr_willis, have a great day, you've just made mine start very well.  Now I'll explore the upgrading to 7.10 ?? or should I wait.
[13:16] <Activeobserver> "link"
[13:16] <Activeobserver> im sorry for being so new lol
[13:17] <LadyNikon> Activeobserver: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[13:17] <x3rox> Thank you again. I cannot understand that one prefers such a spartanic linux. ;-)
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> !paste | Activeobserver
[13:17] <ubotu> Activeobserver: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[13:17] <Dr_willis> guycook,  if you just did a clean isntall.. i would wait. and do a clean install of the next release also.. not upgrade...
[13:17] <IdleOne> Activeobserver: go to paste.ubuntu-nl.org enter your nickname paste the lines of text you want in the big box and click on the submit button. then copy the url and give it to us in here so we can look at 1 millions lines of text at our leisure without the scrolling from this channel
[13:17] <PowerTeam> To configure mye synce aplication i need to enter a dev... liek ttyusb0
[13:17] <LadyNikon> -.-
[13:17] <PowerTeam> but nothing like that shows up in ubuntu
[13:17] <gooody> i have an on-board s3 savage graphics card. can i install compiz fusion or beryl with this graphics card?
[13:17] <idealab_loco> link t
[13:17] <JoeLinux117> x3rox: At least for servers, I've found Ubuntu to be my favorite.
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> gooody: should be ok
[13:17] <JoeLinux117> x3rox: Desktop too, but that's a whole separate argument...
[13:17] <x3rox> JoeLinux117: Does ubuntu have no setup utility?
[13:18] <PowerTeam> I use this howto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=136257&highlight=qtek
[13:18] <x3rox> JoeLinux117: It is really like day&night to SuSE.
[13:18] <JoeLinux117> x3rox: What do you mean by setup?
[13:18] <guycook> Dr_willis, will do, I think I"ll wait before starting this adventure again, and I'll someday help someone else with that easy done command nvidia-xconfig --twinview  sheesh!  too easy
[13:18] <Activeobserver> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62014/
[13:18] <JoeLinux117> x3rox: Yea, I know what you mean.
[13:18] <guycook> Dr_willis, not easy to find in google though
[13:18] <x3rox> JoeLinux117: something like YAST
[13:18] <JoeLinux117> x3rox: I see what you mean.
[13:18] <strawbe_ree> a
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> Activeobserver: Broadcom Corporation BCM4328
[13:18] <Activeobserver> ok got the pastebin down atleast
[13:18] <Dr_willis> guycook,  yep. That command gets overlooked by the gui croud.. actually i found it mentioned first in the 'ubuntu hacks' book. :)  its also mentioned in the nvidia drivers docs.
[13:19] <JoeLinux117> x3rox: As far as command line, everything is configuration files...
[13:19] <PowerTeam> !ask synce
[13:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask synce - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:19] <x3rox> Wahh
[13:19] <LadyNikon> PowerTeam: what are you trying to do?
[13:19] <x3rox> =8-O
[13:19] <Activeobserver> ive tried to install ndiswrapper
[13:19] <Activeobserver> my friend did as well, he knows ubuntu well, he is having problems as well
[13:19] <LadyNikon> broadcom :S
[13:19] <DistroJockey> !ask | PowerTeam
[13:19] <ubotu> PowerTeam: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> Activeobserver: http://hasin.wordpress.com/2008/02/27/getting-dell-bcm4328-wifi-card-working-on-ubuntu-710/
[13:19] <wers> how do I install firefox beta on gutsy? :D
[13:20] <guycook> Dr_willis, I"m going to write it into my linux notebook so I don't forget it later when I ever upgrade
[13:20] <LadyNikon> omg
[13:20] <x3rox> JoeLinux117: Thank you anyway, without your kindly help I would have spent a lot of time to get it working.
[13:20] <polishpaul> sunbird: how do i know the 'module name' for my NIC?
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> Activeobserver: its anndiswrapper job :(
[13:20] <Activeobserver> yeah i know, ive had ubuntu a day and i already know broadcom is the devil
[13:20] <JoeLinux117> x3rox: No prob!
[13:20] <LadyNikon> !sync
[13:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sync - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:20] <Activeobserver> will this dell link work for a macbook as well?
[13:20] <lksl> hi
[13:20] <x3rox> JoeLinux117: Now I walk to the machine and check it's network settings. I just rebooted it. ;-)
[13:20] <lksl> when i do cat /etc/mtab i got this : http://pastebin.com/m26d4fc6f can anyone explain me what that it mean ?
[13:20] <Dr_willis> guycook,   under the next release - i dont think those tools are isntalled by default.  just rember 'nvidia<tab>' in the shell
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> Activeobserver: as long as its for that broadcom chip its fine
[13:21] <Activeobserver> thanx
[13:21] <Activeobserver> gonna go try
[13:21] <lksl> hello
[13:21] <PowerTeam> LadyNikon: My problem is that the howto asks me the enter f eks /dev/ttyusb0 the config file, but i haveno such device listed in /dev
[13:21] <lksl> hello
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> Activeobserver: its the chip that matters. the rest is just casing
[13:21] <lksl> when i do cat /etc/mtab i got this : http://pastebin.com/m26d4fc6f can anyone explain me what that it mean ?
[13:21] <lksl> when i do cat /etc/mtab i got this : http://pastebin.com/m26d4fc6f can anyone explain me what that it mean ?
[13:21] <lksl> plzz
[13:21] <FloodBot3> lksl: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:21] <LadyNikon> lksl: please do not repeat yourself
[13:21] <alexis_>  /server irc.tin.it
[13:21] <crackerjackz_> what channel can i get help with secure shell?
[13:21] <Dr_willis> lksl,  you could SUMMARIZE the actual problem a bit...
[13:21] <LadyNikon> lksl: if you dont get an answer here.. please try the forums
[13:21] <Slart> lksl: shesh.. give us a chance to actually answer before you start repeating
[13:21] <Slart> lksl: you're running from the live cd
[13:21] <Pici> crackerjackz_: You can ask here.
[13:22] <sunbird> polishpaul: sorry. i'm a noob myself. for my atheros wireless, i had to add MODULES="ath_pci" under the modules variable in /etc/default/acpi-support, but i'm not sure how to find yours. :( i'm sure someone else does....
[13:22] <Dr_willis> crackerjackz #ssh perhaps? depends on the question.
[13:22] <LadyNikon> PowerTeam: ah
[13:22] <crackerjackz_> im trying to figure out how to install ssh on ubuntu
[13:22] <alexis_>  /server irc.tin.it
[13:22] <Pici> crackerjackz_: sudo apt-get install ssh
[13:22] <Dr_willis> crackerjackz fire up the package manager, search for ssh,
[13:22] <Pici> alexis_: ditch the space in front of /server
[13:22] <lksl> no i m not running from a live a cd
[13:22] <Lamego> crackerjackz, that ssh client is installedby default
[13:22] <LadyNikon> PowerTeam: hold on lemme take a look
[13:22] <Lamego> you want the openssh-server
[13:22]  * Dr_willis seconds what Lamego  says
[13:22] <Activeobserver> i downloaded r151517.exe
[13:23] <PowerTeam> LadyNikon: thx
[13:23] <Pici> Lamego: the ssh metapackage includes the server and the client iirc
[13:23] <crackerjackz_> pici thanks
[13:23] <Activeobserver> however it will not let me download it on ubuntu
[13:23] <Activeobserver> i mean open it
[13:23] <gooody> I can't enable normal or extra option on my system's visual effects. will compiz fusion or beryl still works with my PC?
[13:23] <LadyNikon> PowerTeam: did you backup your pocketpc?
[13:23] <Slart> lksl: well.. if you say so
[13:23] <x3rox> JoeLinux117: It worked. Thanks a lot.
[13:23] <PowerTeam> i have backup
[13:23] <JoeLinux117> x3rox: Great, no problem.
[13:23] <Dr_willis> gooody,  thoes options DO enable compiz fusion..  so i would say thats a NO to your question.
[13:24] <lksl> Slart: r u sure i m running from a hard disk ?
[13:24] <Dr_willis> gooody,  they jsut enable a different # of effects by default
[13:24] <LadyNikon> PowerTeam: good good .. i saw that " it can erase your entire pocketpc" part
[13:24] <Pici> gooody: Make sure that you have the restricted drivers installed (if applicable)
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> gooody: make sure you have graphics drivers installed. Should be ok but not whizzy. you could upgrade the vga to a cheapo nvidia and be fine :)
[13:24] <DistroJockey> Activeobserver: what is that file for again?
[13:24] <crackerjackz_> pici it freezes up at )% [connecting to security.ubuntu.com]
[13:24] <Activeobserver> its a driver to install ndiswrapper to my bcm4328 broadcom wireless
[13:24] <Pici> crackerjackz_: Do you have an internet connection on that computer?
[13:24] <crackerjackz_> 0% ***
[13:24] <crackerjackz_> pici yes i do
[13:25] <LadyNikon> PowerTeam: and you plugged in your device?
[13:25] <Slart> lksl: wE11, |\|0, |`m |\|0+
[13:25] <Pici> Slart: ...
[13:25] <PowerTeam> When i diff my dev list before and after i connect usb dev, it only shows  usbdev2.9_epxx
[13:25] <DistroJockey> adrock358: you happily backing up now?
[13:25] <Slart> Pici: yea yea.. I'll go sit in the naughty corner..
[13:25] <crackerjackz_> pici now it says "could not resolve security.ubuntu.com
[13:25] <LadyNikon> Slart: kill the leet speak please.
[13:25] <PowerTeam> LadyNikon: 4 lines wich xx is exchange with number
[13:26] <Pici> crackerjackz_: Can you visit any websites?
[13:26] <crackerjackz_> pici no i can not
[13:26] <PowerTeam> LadyNikon: if understand what i mean
[13:26] <crackerjackz_> your right the internet isnt working
[13:26] <LadyNikon> PowerTeam: your pocketpc device.
[13:26] <gooody> ActionParsnip: i only have onboard graphics card.
[13:26] <Pici> crackerjackz_: Should you have internet access? I mean, is it connected to the network, etc?
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> gooody: no agp?
[13:27] <crackerjackz_> pici its working now (wifi is flakey still havent figure out whats wrong with it)
[13:27] <gooody> ActionParsnip: no agp.
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> gooody: get a pci card :D
[13:27] <PowerTeam> LadyNikon: shows up as usbdev2.9_ep00, usbdev2.9_ep03, usbdev2.9_ep81, usbdev2.9_ep83
[13:27] <LadyNikon> PowerTeam: now he says ttyYSB0 works for him.. but it may be different for you
[13:27] <crackerjackz_> brb i gotta boot into gentoo so i can test out this ssh
[13:28] <Activeobserver> i downloaded r151517.exe and used the command unrar x r151517.exe     did not work
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> gooody: but you may find its ok
[13:28] <lksl> what Slart ???
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> Activeobserver: sudo apt-get install unrar
[13:28] <Activeobserver> i have unrar
[13:28] <Activeobserver> right now im getting wine
[13:28] <Dr_willis> why would one unrar a .exe ?
[13:28] <JoeLinux117> Activeobserver: unzip r151517.exe
[13:28] <Dr_willis> ive used wine driverfile.exe befor
[13:29] <gooody> ActionParsnip: thanks for the info.
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willis: cos thats what those dell exes are. he needs the broadcom stuff for his wifi
[13:29] <Slart> lksl: only makes it hard to read, right?..
[13:29] <JoeLinux117> Dr_willis: r151517.exe is a file that contains drivers for the broadcom wireless cards.
[13:29] <dhee^^> hay
[13:29] <Lamego> presumably an SFX exe
[13:29] <PowerTeam> LadyNikon: what is the diffrence btw those files?
[13:29] <JoeLinux117> ActionParsnip: All together now..
[13:29] <JoeLinux117> lol
[13:29] <Survivorman> so that would be cabextract file.exe
[13:29] <Activeobserver> unzip didnt do the tric
[13:29] <LadyNikon> PowerTeam: dunno to tell the truth
[13:30] <Activeobserver> wine is almost done installing
[13:30] <LadyNikon> PowerTeam: can you pastebin your dmesg?
[13:30] <Activeobserver> hopefully that works
[13:30] <Dr_willis> Hmm. the fwcutter tools  i isntalled auto-downloaded the ones for my broadcom card.
[13:30] <LadyNikon> PowerTeam: goto your console and type "dmesg"
[13:30] <JoeLinux117> Activeobserver: Go to www.learnaboutlinux.net/wireless_1390.htm, you will find the needed files from within that EXE directly linked there.
[13:30] <JoeLinux117> Activeobserver: As well as a guide.
[13:30] <LadyNikon> PowerTeam: i didnt notice how old that guide was..
[13:31] <metroside> can anyone help with a quick question?
[13:31] <Slart> metroside: just ask.. then we'll see
[13:31] <Activeobserver> JoeLinux: thanks looking now
[13:31] <Survivorman> JoeLinux117, is he using ndiswrapper or the fwcutter program
[13:31] <jaffarkelshac> does anyone know how to resize icon sizes globally?
[13:32] <chell> hello
[13:32] <chell> I've got a printing problem
[13:32] <jaffarkelshac> hello
[13:32] <Slart> jaffarkelshac: have you looked in the preferences in a nautilus window?
[13:32] <rake> hola
[13:32] <UnyiL> EEEEEEEEEE
[13:32] <jaffarkelshac> i have not, i will now Slart
[13:32] <JoeLinux117> Survivorman: He could use the fwcutter program if he wants to use the bcm43xx driver, otherwise if he wants to use the ndiswrapper driver then he needs the bcmwl5.inf file inside the EXE.
[13:32] <chell> I've got an Epson Printer that's attached to a mac mini...printing from my Ubuntu box works
[13:32] <Slart> jaffarkelshac: I think there is at least some setting with 25%, 50%, 75% steps
[13:32] <chell> but it screws the page margins up
[13:32] <RedLizard> can i install ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop on the same machine without getting most gnome programs in the kde menu or the other way around?
[13:32] <metroside> installed dapper on a 400mhz, 64mb ram...using OpenIce looking for a GUI that will allow me to share folders. Samba is installed.
[13:32] <chell> cuts the upper portion of the page off
[13:32] <JoeLinux117> Survivorman: I'm sure he'll just read about it in that site.
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> chell: which epson?
[13:32] <chell> DX4250
[13:32] <Survivorman> So JoeLinux117 to get that, he needs to use cabextract for the .inf
[13:32] <ubuhackaa> Is anyone using here b43 on Ubuntu Hardy Heron?
[13:33] <jaffarkelshac> but only desktop is really what i want Slart
[13:33] <chell> when print the same PDF from my macbook it works
[13:33] <LadyNikon> ubuhackaa: you should be in #ubuntu+1
[13:33] <crimeboy> **** http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dmPchuXIXQ
[13:33] <jaffarkelshac> i have some images on desktop and the preview is very big Slart
[13:33] <JoeLinux117> Survivorman: Well, the important files within the EXE are linked at that website I gave him, so he shouldn't even need to extract anything.
[13:33] <LadyNikon> crimeboy: please stay on topic
[13:33] <Slart> metroside: well.. there's always SWAT.. I think that's a web-gui.. don't really know of anything else that might run happily on that computer
[13:33] <Survivorman> JoeLinux117, gotcha. I used to have to use that on my broadcom setup before gutsy.
[13:34] <PowerTeam> LadyNikon: how do i show u the dmesg
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> chell: have you checked your margin settings for the app printing as well as in the printer config itself
[13:34] <JoeLinux117> Survivorman: Yea, me too.
[13:34] <Slart> jaffarkelshac: ah.. only preview icons.. hmm... hang on.. let me google a bit
[13:34] <PowerTeam> I dont wanna get banned, hehe
[13:34] <LadyNikon> PowerTeam: Pastbin
[13:34] <metroside> thanks Slart...I installed SWAT just not sure how to use it...
[13:34] <chell> ActionParsnip: I'm printing from the standard Ubuntu PDF viewer
[13:34] <LadyNikon> !paste | PowerTeam
[13:34] <ubotu> PowerTeam: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[13:34] <jaffarkelshac> no worries the stops in preview does it globally presisely what i wanted
[13:34] <metroside> I'll use google as always :)
[13:34] <jaffarkelshac> no worries the stops in preview does it globally presisely what i wanted Slart
[13:34] <ubuhackaa> With the b43-driver module loaded, iwlist fails with scanning for any networks. Is there a fix for it?
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> chell: check your page margins as well as the settings for the printer
[13:34] <Slart> metroside: it's a webserver I think.. so you go to the url http://localhost:5678 in a webbrowser
[13:35] <crackerjackz> now that ssh is install
[13:35] <Slart> metroside: not sure if the port is really 5678 but you get the idea
[13:35] <crackerjackz> how do i give my self a key on that computer so i can ssh in from my computer
[13:35] <crimeboy> LadyNikon: sorry mrs, but that is on topic
[13:35] <Activeobserver> ok i got the drive pack i need its the one i have R151517.exe it said to unzip it but it says it can not find it
[13:35] <JoeLinux117> ubuhackaa: Type "dmesg", and check to make sure you didn't just get any errors.
[13:35] <chell> ActionParsnip: margins:
[13:35] <chell> left: 18 pt
[13:35] <Adantan_Alex> guys
[13:35] <chell> right: 18 pt
[13:35] <Adantan_Alex> i need some help
[13:35] <chell> top: 36 pt
[13:35] <chell> bottom: 36 pt
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> chell: try them on 0 just to test
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> or maybe copy the ones in the config of the mac
[13:36] <Adantan_Alex> how do i change the screen resolution on xubuntu?
[13:36] <chell> mmm
[13:36] <chell> I don't think I can change then
[13:36] <chell> *them
[13:36] <chell> the printer is attached to the mac
[13:36] <chell> so I can't change them via the Ubuntu config tool
[13:36] <l0tU5> Howzit... anyone know how to make a network install with a partition?
[13:36] <PowerTeam> LadyNikon: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62015/plain/
[13:36] <chell> and they seem to be configured correctly anyway seeing as it works with my Macbook
[13:36] <Adantan_Alex> who can help me with ubuntu?
[13:36] <ubuhackaa> JoeLinux117, thanks for the response but everything is loaded correctly. b43-fwcutter has even downloaded and installed the driver.
[13:36] <LadyNikon> PowerTeam: one sec
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> chell: you you can change the settings that you have in the ubuntu system
[13:36] <LadyNikon> Adantan_Alex: ask your question.  someone will help you if they can
[13:37] <Adantan_Alex> i did ask
[13:37] <RedLizard> can i install ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop on the same machine without getting most gnome programs in the kde menu or the other way around?
[13:37] <maxxer> hi. i'm trying to run vmware with parallel port support but it always complain about parport0 busy. even with cups down
[13:37] <Adantan_Alex> how do i change the screen resolution on xubuntu?
[13:37] <LadyNikon> Adantan_Alex: then be patient.  If no one can help you.. then try the forums.
[13:37] <chell> ActionParsnip: I'm in the printer configuration thing
[13:37] <maxxer> is there anything in ubuntu locking lp0?
[13:37] <JoeLinux117> ubuhackaa: What does "lspci" say?  Your wireless card should be near the bottom of the output.
[13:37] <DarkJustice> anyone that might be able to help me in PM for a few minutes? I just installed ubuntu and don't want to flood room with questions. Never used linux before and very confused
[13:37] <chell> ActionParsnip: when I click appy I get an "client-error.forbidden"
[13:37] <LadyNikon> PowerTeam: is that your entire pastebin?
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> Adantan_Alex: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[13:38] <metroside> slart have u used midnight commander?
[13:38] <LadyNikon> PowerTeam: i mean is that your entire dmesg?
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> chell: you may need sudo
[13:38] <Adantan_Alex> what?
[13:38] <PowerTeam> LadyNikon: nope
[13:38] <PowerTeam> LadyNikon: only the last part
[13:38] <chell> what's the app called?
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> Adantan_Alex: thats to reconfig your screen
[13:38] <chell> so I can call it with sudo
[13:38] <Survivorman> open a terminal and type that... but he's still on livecd
[13:38] <Adantan_Alex> yeah where do i type it?
[13:38] <PowerTeam> LadyNikon: i can paste whole thing if u want
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> chell: you doing it through cups?
[13:38] <Slart> jaffarkelshac: ok.. here's another thing you can try.. start gconf-editor in a terminal.. look in apps, nautilus, icon-view.. there's a thumbnail-size option there.. change it and see what happens
[13:38] <chell> yeah
[13:38] <Adantan_Alex> its on 800 x 600 and im not seeing the task bar
[13:38] <ubuhackaa> JoeLinux117: It says: 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 01)
[13:38] <LadyNikon> PowerTeam: better question.. is your device plugged in?
[13:38] <Slart> metroside: nope..
[13:38] <PowerTeam> yes
[13:39] <LadyNikon> k
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> chell: sudo <webbrowser>
[13:39] <Activeobserver> can i get to my desktop directory by typing in cd desktop?
[13:39] <chell> ActionParsnip: well, through the Ubuntu GUI
[13:39] <jaffarkelshac> Slart, excellent,
[13:39] <metroside> ok no worries...I can use smb but i am not sure if you can actually share folders using it? anybody else?
[13:39] <chell> which talks to cups I think
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> chell: run it as user and click help -> about
[13:39] <farueulogy> just typing cd will take you to your home I believe
[13:39] <Adantan_Alex> look i dont know where to type to change the screen resolution
[13:39] <Adantan_Alex> ....
[13:39] <LadyNikon> PowerTeam: ok good.. cause the dmesg wouldnt count.. yeah can you show me your entire dmesg.
[13:39] <l0tU5> Anyone know how to make a network install with a partition?
[13:40] <chell> ActionParsnip: okay...
[13:40] <chell> ah
[13:40] <JoeLinux117> ubuhackaa: Have you tried following this link? http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[13:40] <JoeLinux117> ubuhackaa: It's excellent.
[13:40] <Adantan_Alex> !resolution
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> chell: sudo firefox http://localhost:631
[13:40] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> ;)
[13:40] <ubuhackaa> JoeLinux117: Yeah, I did so. I've read in a Launchpad bug report there is a bug in the kernel which causes this problem.
[13:41] <Adantan_Alex> ok im gonna install ubuntu with the alternative CD
[13:41] <ubuhackaa> JoeLinux117: dmesg recognizes the WLAN device correctly: [   26.880945] b43-phy0: Broadcom 4311 WLAN found
[13:41] <LadyNikon> PowerTeam: sudo aptitude install pastebinit && dmesg | pastebinit
[13:41] <Adantan_Alex> !ubuntu
[13:41] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[13:41] <LadyNikon> PowerTeam: that might be quicker
[13:41] <Adantan_Alex> !edubuntu
[13:41] <ubotu> Edubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org
[13:41] <Adantan_Alex> !kubuntu
[13:41] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[13:41] <JoeLinux117> ubuhackaa: And you have the firmware in /lib/firmware/`uname -r`?
[13:41] <Adantan_Alex> !xubuntu
[13:41] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels
[13:41] <PowerTeam> LadyNikon: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62017/
[13:41] <Adantan_Alex> i see....
[13:41] <Adantan_Alex> !ubuntu
[13:41] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[13:42] <LadyNikon> PowerTeam: looking
[13:42] <ozdeb> hi everyone
[13:42] <ozdeb> can anyone help with lyx tables ?
[13:42] <PowerTeam> LadyNikon: take notice that i using ubuntu from usb hardrive wich also boot from
[13:43] <DistroJockey> Adantan_Alex: you can type:   /msg ubotu whatyouwanttoknow
[13:43] <ubuhackaa> JueLinux117: Yes, that's what b43-fwcutter did after installing.
[13:43] <ubuhackaa> s/JueLinux117/JoeLinux117/
[13:43] <metroside> tried installing Naurtius to share folders...didn't work :(. I don't want to have to install Gnome or KDE if I don't have too.
[13:44] <JoeLinux117> ubuhackaa: Have you tried using the bcm43xx driver instead?
[13:44] <PowerTeam> LadyNikon: erm there was some erroe in pastin dmsg
[13:44] <pharoh> hey,in the gitweb,how does one download a whole source code package?i did it once by luck en now i have no clue at all
[13:44] <ozdeb> can anyone help with lyx tables ?
[13:45] <ubuhackaa> JoeLinux117: It isn't anymore available in Ubuntu Hardy Heron. It worked like a charm on Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon.
[13:45] <Willizar> how the fell can i install realplayer
[13:45] <LadyNikon> PowerTeam: hold on a sec.. i got a call... < works helpdesk
[13:45] <Dr_willis> !realplayer
[13:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[13:45] <ubuhackaa> JoeLinux117: dpkg-reconfigure b43-fwcutter says: The bcm43xx driver needs extracted firmware - which cannot be shipped - to be working. This firmware can be automatically fetched and extracted as part of installing this package.
[13:45] <PowerTeam> LadyNikon: ahh , np
[13:45] <PowerTeam> LadyNikon: I'l be back later no worries
[13:45] <JoeLinux117> ubuhackaa: Yea, I've seen that before.
[13:45] <metroside> can anyone please give me a hand with sharing folders using samba?
[13:45] <Dr_willis> I was thinking the w32codec packs let some of the other players play realmedia stuff
[13:45] <Activeobserver> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62018/ I am following the instructions on the website given to me and i am having problems with the last command
[13:45] <Deamos> Hello everyone!
[13:46] <LadyNikon> PowerTeam: google how to find usbtty0 as well..
[13:46] <Survivorman> ubuhackaa, are you using gutsy?
[13:46] <Dr_willis> metroside,  my hard and fast way -> 'sudo apt-get install samba' ' sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME' - then edit /etc/samba/smb.conf as you want. :)
[13:46] <Willizar> Dr_willis:  i have down load the file but i dont know how to install it
[13:47] <Survivorman> ubuhackaa, or are you using Hardy?
[13:47] <Erickj92> how do i put the applications i get off apt-get onto a cd? the .deb file i mean so others can install it.
[13:47] <Dr_willis> Willizar,  what file?
[13:47] <ubuhackaa> JoeLinux117: So, do you have an idea how to fix the problem? ndiswrapper isn't working here either. It doesn't add the interface (in my case wlan0). Adding it manually didn't work either. This is also a known bug but there hasn't been released a fix.
[13:47] <JoeLinux117> ubuhackaa: If you don't mind ndiswrapper, this tutorial (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ndiswrapper/+bug/188621) appears to have gotten someone with the same card as you working.
[13:47] <metroside> thanks Dr willis....done most of that...i'll double check everything
[13:47] <ubuhackaa> Survivorman: I'm using Hardy Heron.
[13:47] <JoeLinux117> ubuhackaa: 4311 rev 01
[13:47] <Dr_willis> metroside,  i also like the fusesmb tool on my linux machunes to access the samba network.
[13:47] <ubuhackaa> JoeLinux117: Ok, thanks. Maybe it's working now. I'll take a look on it.
[13:47] <Dr_willis> metroside,  there is the using samba book in the samba-doc package also. :)
[13:48] <JoeLinux117> ubuhackaa: Ok.
[13:48] <pharoh> #compiz-fusion
[13:48] <metroside> ok cool....i'll give that a go....is the package called fusesmb?
[13:48] <Erickj92> how do i put the applications i get off apt-get onto a cd? the .deb file i mean so others can install it.
[13:49] <dgjones> !aptoncd | Erickj92
[13:49] <ubotu> Erickj92: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
[13:49] <Erickj92> thank you
[13:49] <Survivorman> I'm not sure what your problem is exactly, but I had a prob where I couldn't automatically install my driver as normal under gutsy, so what I had to do was notice the file I downloaded with gutsy and the fwcutter prog, then I downloaded it manually. In Hardy, I had to uninstall/purge fwcutter and then reinstall, then from the command line run fwcutter filename. It worked fine then.
[13:49] <Activeobserver> JoeLinux117: i have been following the page you gave me and i am having problems running a file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62018/
[13:49] <Erickj92> dgjones, that is downloadable by apt-get?
[13:50] <dgjones> Erickj92, yes it should be
[13:50] <ubuhackaa> JoeLinux117: I've seen this bug report before and tried to install it once but it didn't work either.
[13:51] <dgjones> Erickj92, the package name appears to "aptoncd"
[13:51] <Survivorman> ubuhackaa, I replied to you above... take a look and see if that seems like your problem. It says the restricted driver is being used but no wireless?
[13:51] <JoeLinux117> ubuhackaa: Instead of using that R151517.EXE file, go to www.learnaboutlinux.net/wireless_1390.htm and get the bcmwl5.sys file from there.  Or, even better if it doesn't work, use the wl_apsta.o file that is linked under the Troubleshooting section.
[13:51] <Survivorman> Well it's green but not enabled?
[13:52] <Willizar> Dr_willis:  a bin file
[13:52] <ubuhackaa> JoeLinux117: Yeah, I've already tried this one. There are no problems with installing, etc. It even says "device present" but it fails with adding the interface wlan0.
[13:53] <Neurostu> does anyone know where I can get answers about which packages are supported by Hardy?
[13:53] <Survivorman> ubuhackaa, do you have a green light in restricted driver?
[13:53] <ubuhackaa> JoeLinux117: When executing sudo ifconfig wlan0, dmesg says: [ 2941.081179] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready
[13:53] <ubuhackaa> Survivorman: Where's the green light?
[13:54] <JoeLinux117> ubuhackaa: That means that either the wrong driver or wrong firmware is being used.
[13:54] <Survivorman> in system, administration, restricted drivers manager
[13:54] <Dr_willis> Willizar,  its an executable you need to 'run' (but i hear the reapplayer installer for linux is broken)  try 'chmod +x whatever.bin' then './whatever.bin'
[13:54] <jaffarkelshac> is there anyway to get multiple desktop wallpapers and still have icons. so far i have to disable desktop drawing to get compiz to get multiple desktop
[13:54] <Shuttle_> has anyone else encountered issues with the live-cd (7.10 AND 8.04) where it boots right after it should fire up x/gdm? when I watch the progress I can see it starting gdm -> blank screen -> reboot. The CD is intact. I also tried usb-boot to no avail. The disc works fine on another machine. hardware is intel with nvidia 7800 gs(?)
[13:54] <ubuhackaa> Survivorman, sorry, I'm not using GNOME. Is there a command for the console?
[13:54] <ubuhackaa> JoeLinux117: Are you sure? b43-fwcutter fetched the drivers for me.
[13:55] <jaffarkelshac> is there anyway to get multiple desktop wallpapers and still have icons. so far i have to disable desktop drawing to get compiz to get multiple desktop
[13:55] <JoeLinux117> ubuhackaa: Yup, pretty sure.
[13:55] <Neurostu> what is the support channel for hardy heron?
[13:55] <JoeLinux117> ubuhackaa: Otherwise it would be working, right?  lol
[13:55] <jaffarkelshac> ubuntu+1
[13:55] <jaffarkelshac> #join ubuntu+1
[13:55] <jrib> jaffarkelshac: wallpapoz
[13:55] <Neurostu> THANKS!
[13:55] <jaffarkelshac> k
[13:55] <ubuhackaa> Shuttle_: I've never had such a problem here. Both, Gutsy and Hardy are working via the Live-CD. Why don't you try the alternate CD? That's what I did here.
[13:55] <rachelle> hi everyone
[13:55] <Survivorman> ubuhackaa, I would remove the fwcutter program and purge, then reinstall it. get the apsto *spelling, file, and run fwcutter filename from the commandline.
[13:56] <Survivorman> ubuhackaa, I had the same problem and fixed it that way.
[13:56] <jaffarkelshac> jrib, thanks
[13:56] <rachelle> first time i have been in this chat
[13:56] <Willizar> Dr_willis:  i need to type that in the terminal
[13:56] <jrib> jaffarkelshac: it's not in the repositories by the way
[13:56] <DistroJockey> !hi | rachelle
[13:56] <ubotu> rachelle: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[13:56] <Shuttle_> ubuhackaa: I had a working ubuntu-installation with this very hardware-setup. Once. Now I'm migrating back to ubuntu - or am I?
[13:56] <Dr_willis> Willizar,  yes.
[13:57] <ubuhackaa> JoeLinux117: If I didn't install b43-fwcutter, it would have worked? Or what did you mean?
[13:57] <metroside> I never want to run Gnome on 64 mbs of Ram again!
[13:57] <jaffarkelshac> googling right now
[13:57] <JoeLinux117> ubuhackaa: I'm sure you're fine with Survivorman, I gotta run, but try http://www.learnaboutlinux.net/files/wl_apsta.o, that file worked for me.
[13:57] <JoeLinux117> ubuhackaa: I meant the firmware that b43 extracts.
[13:57] <asgh> x
[13:57] <jayM> how do i reset my flash settings for audio and video on ff?
[13:57] <ubuhackaa> Survivorman: Ok, I already did this plenty times. Maybe it's working now. I'll try it.
[13:58] <fx|RabBit> i got a weird graphics error with my logitec pro9000 webcam and skype anybody else?
[13:58] <ubuhackaa> Survivorman: Which packages did you remove?
[13:58] <Helix82> Hi all
[13:58] <ubuhackaa> Survivorman: Is b43-fwcutter sufficient? Or where is the b43-module stored in? sudo apt-get remove --purge b43-fwcutter
[13:58] <Survivorman> I ran sudo aptitude purge b43-fwcutter
[13:59] <Helix82> i need help in ubuntu anyone can help me.... please pvt msg me...
[13:59] <jayM> anyone?
[13:59] <Lamego> !anyone
[13:59] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[13:59] <jayM> i need to reset flash how do i do that?
[13:59] <nickrud> !ask | Helix82
[13:59] <ubotu> Helix82: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[13:59] <Dr_willis> Helix82,  you could at least give a hint/summary of your problem to the channel.
[13:59] <fx|RabBit> Helix82: what kind of wquestion is that???
[13:59] <Survivorman> ubuhackaa, then I reinstalled it, and then ran bw4-fwcutter driverfilename
[13:59] <jaffarkelshac> before i start using ubuntu for personal stuff, how safe is it to use ubuntu. i have firewall and anti virus, and using seahorse pgp is there anything i need
[13:59] <ubuhackaa> Shuttle_: How did you install the working Ubuntu-installation?
[13:59] <Helix82> sorry guy...
[14:00] <Dr_willis> why do you think you need an antivirus on ubuntu? :)
[14:00] <Survivorman> Shuttle_, do you know he's using Hardy?
[14:00] <Dr_willis> firewall also - is normally optional.
[14:00] <Shuttle_> ubuhackaa: with a different vga-adapter at the time (matrox -> gf4ti -> gf7800gs)
[14:00] <ubuhackaa> Shuttle_: You said Gutsy and Heron's LiveCD didn't work? So did you use Feisty?
[14:00] <compwiz18> !security | jaffarkelshac
[14:00] <ubotu> jaffarkelshac: If you feel the need to adopt security measures for your system, check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Security - See also !root, !firewall and !server
[14:00] <Dr_willis> pgp is alwyas handy to use.
[14:00] <fx|RabBit> jaffarkelshac: at leat ubuntu was the only os that wasnt compromised at the pwn to own hack comptition
[14:00] <jayM> how do i reset flash on ubuntu
[14:01] <Activeobserver> ok, i am trying to install wireless with ndiswrapper to get my broadcom 4328 wireless hardware working... so far i have had no luck... this is my current status its a bit longhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62019/
[14:01] <Helix82> well wat i am facing is i have a Compaq v3000... My speakers are unable to play sound where else i can hear sound when i plug in headphone i hear sound
[14:01] <Activeobserver> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62019/
[14:01] <jaffarkelshac> compwiz18, thats for the link
[14:01] <Survivorman> ubuhackaa, if you need the driver, I have it and can send it
[14:01] <Shuttle_> ubuhackaa: although I might have mislead you, the soundcard was different (aureon 5.1 instead of aureon 7.1 now)
[14:01] <jaffarkelshac> compwiz18, thanks i mean
[14:01] <Helix82> i have a altec lancing speakers attached
[14:01] <fx|RabBit> Activeobserver: take wpa_supplicant instead of ndiswrapper;)
[14:01] <Activeobserver> how do i do that, i am very new
[14:01] <ubuhackaa> Shuttle_: Sorry, I can't help you with this. I've never had such problems here.
[14:02] <Shuttle_> ubuhackaa: k, thanks anyway
[14:02] <fx|RabBit> msg ubotu wpa_supplicant
[14:02] <ubuhackaa> Activeobserver: Are you using Hardy?
[14:02] <Activeobserver> no i dont think so atleast
[14:02] <Activeobserver> im using ubuntu
[14:02] <ubuhackaa> Survivorman: You mean the driver module? Or the driver for ndiswrapper?
[14:02] <ubuhackaa> Activeobserver: Which version?
[14:03] <Survivorman> ubuhackaa, the driver for fwcutter
[14:03] <Activeobserver> the newest
[14:03] <Activeobserver> for 386?
[14:03] <ubuhackaa> Activeobserver: Hardy or Gutsy?
[14:03] <Pici> Activeobserver: What does lsb_release -a say?
[14:03] <Dr_willis> Activeobserver,  there is a new remease comming out soon..  its codename is 'hardy' :)
[14:03] <Activeobserver> gutsy
[14:03] <Activeobserver> 7.10
[14:04] <Adantan_Alex> o0
[14:04] <Adantan_Alex> ok
[14:04] <ubuhackaa> Survivorman: Yeah, that would be nice.
[14:04] <ubuhackaa> Survivorman: Could you private-mesage me?
[14:04] <chell> Has anyone else experienced any printing issues in hardy?
[14:04] <Pici> chell: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[14:04] <ubuhackaa> chell: No, printing (even via LAN) is working alright here.
[14:05] <Dr_willis> chell,  cups seesm to find my other machines/printers - but dosent configure them right. I have to go in and add them manually
[14:05] <Pici> !hardy
[14:05] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[14:05] <Survivorman> ubuhackaa, I did
[14:05] <Adantan_Alex> !version
[14:05] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[14:05] <Pici> !register | ubuhackaa
[14:05] <ubotu> ubuhackaa: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[14:06] <Adantan_Alex> !shell 1sb_release -a
[14:06] <Activeobserver> its gutsy 7.1
[14:06] <Adantan_Alex> !shell
[14:06] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[14:06] <Helix82> Guys... in wat are the cases tht a applications can hang... i facing this problem with my gusty installed in Compaq v3000
[14:06] <Adantan_Alex> o0
[14:06] <Adantan_Alex> ok
[14:06] <marx2k> Helix82 depends on the application
[14:06] <Pici> Adantan_Alex: It means, open a terminal and type: lsb_release -a
[14:06] <marx2k> I can write an application in 3 lines that will hang forever :)
[14:06] <Adantan_Alex> i figured
[14:06] <Adantan_Alex> thanks
[14:06] <Adantan_Alex> !dual boot
[14:06] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[14:07] <Adantan_Alex> ok
[14:07] <Helix82> simple application like firefox... i am not have this prob in my lenovo...
[14:07] <chell> lol Ubuntu only recognises 3.5 GB of RAM on my 4 GB machine lol
[14:07] <Adantan_Alex> lol
[14:07] <Adantan_Alex> ok
[14:08] <Pici> chell: Thats the limitation of running a 32bit os.
[14:08] <metroside> i installed nautilus using aptitude and it was over 200 mb and 50 package, when i try removing it only will remove 5 packages and 19 mbs? Any idea how I can remove it cleanly?
[14:08] <chell> Pici: Ubuntu 64 bit sucks?
[14:08] <Pici> chell: Are you asking?
[14:08] <chell> yes
[14:08] <chell> I know that XP 64 bit sucks
[14:08] <chdst> chell: Using it now, there is no suck.
[14:09] <Pici> chell: Theres a little bit of tweaking to get some proprietary stuff working, like flash. But the experience has become easier in more recent versions of Ubutnu.
[14:09] <Pici> s/Ubutnu/Ubuntu/
[14:09] <chdst> Yeah, hardy made all of that go away. Flash was working out of the box, in fact.
[14:10] <quaal> what is the command to find out what is using a soundcard
[14:10] <chdst> I also run 64-bit XP at home, and it also doesn't suck (any more than 32-bit XP).
[14:10] <quaal> it just started playing music out of nowhere
[14:10] <metroside> i installed nautilus using aptitude and it was over 200 mb and 50 package, when i try removing it only will remove 5 packages and 19 mbs? Any idea how I can remove it cleanly?
[14:10] <chell> chdst: I thought there were driver issues
[14:10] <quaal> metroside, nautilus is brutal
[14:11] <Dr_willis> that bascially installed all of gnome :)
[14:11] <Zyroth> When I try to start apache via "sudo apach2ctl start", nothing happens. No error message, no process in the process list afterwards (neither apache nor httpd). Any ideas?
[14:11] <Zyroth> (I tried #apache already)
[14:11] <kosta> since the last update, I cannot load the nvidia module and my screen resolution cant go beyond 800x600
[14:11] <Helix82> is there any firewall for gutsy... which can enable me to block off ping and tracert and any other technology the network administrator use to retrive info...
[14:11] <kosta> any ideas?
[14:11] <Pici> Zyroth: try: sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 start
[14:11] <metroside> yeah i know....i tried aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop but it would not remove any packages?
[14:11] <Pici> !firewall | Helix82
[14:11] <ubotu> Helix82: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[14:12] <kosta> i already tried reinstalling the nvidia-gfx-new package and the newest kernel, without results
[14:12] <metroside> any ideas on how i tidy it up
[14:12] <Zyroth> Pici: It just tells me "...fail"
[14:12] <chdst> chell: I'm sure there are, but I haven't personally faced any in about two years.
[14:12] <Pici> Zyroth: No other messages?
[14:13] <Zyroth> Pici: Nope ;(
[14:13] <doktoreas> how can I convert ps to pdf splitting txt in more then one page?
[14:13] <doktoreas> it convert just the first one
[14:13] <Pici> Zyroth: Try running it with sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[14:14] <chdst> Regardless, 64-bit Ubuntu is absolutely fine. You get to see all of your RAM, and if you do need to get support for the proprietary stuff, this channel has all the answers, or directions to them.
[14:14] <Zyroth> Pici: Says "...fail" only, again
[14:15] <Pici> Zyroth: Perhaps check out man apache2, maybe theres a debug or verbose argument to supply so that we can see some errors?
[14:16] <Devyll> hello. i try to send mail via php script using mail(); and the email doesn't arrive to the destination. I have every email in /var/mail/www-data .. but the emails are not leaving the machine. Can you please tell me what is the sendmail log file ? (/var/log/mail* is empty)
[14:16] <metroside> since i can't uninstall nautilus cleanly I am thinking of installing ubuntu-desktop and then uninstall it...thoughts? will that work??
[14:19] <activeobserver> Have a Broadcom 4328 wireless card. Installed Ndiswrapper and when i check ndiswrapper using the command
[14:19] <activeobserver> ndiswrapper -l it says its there
[14:19] <activeobserver> just doesnt work
[14:19] <Gatestone> How do I make Gmail my preferred email? Seems like firefox https://mail.google.com/mail?view=cm&tf=0&to=`echo $1 | sed 's/mailto://'` is not working, but open a new mail without the to-field...
[14:19] <ubuhackaa> SurvivorMan: Do you have a e-mail address? It seems that my private messages have been blocked.
[14:19] <metroside> since i can't uninstall nautilus cleanly I am thinking of installing ubuntu-desktop and then uninstall it...thoughts? will that work??
[14:20] <bazhang> metroside: ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage iirc so uninstalling wont do much
[14:20] <jrib> metroside: probably not
[14:20] <Survivorman> ubuhackaa, hikejinx@gmail.com
[14:20] <metroside> so there is no way around it except for a reinstall ?
[14:21] <ubuhackaa> Survivorman: Thank you.
[14:21] <activeobserver> im definately not liking ubuntu
[14:21] <metroside> thats a big call in a ubuntu chat room...
[14:21] <Zyroth> Pici: I am getting this when starting it with debug logging: http://privatepaste.com/881nEssiHw
[14:21] <bazhang> metroside: why remove nautilus; just dont use it
[14:21] <jrib> metroside: how did you install it and remove it?
[14:22] <Survivorman> gatestone, use better gmail2 extension. It will make it default while in firefox.
[14:22] <metroside> I installed it using aptitiude
[14:22] <bazhang> activeobserver: what is the issue please be precise
[14:22] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[14:22] <Pici> Zyroth: Thats it? /me scratches his head
[14:22] <ubuhackaa> Survivorman: Do you have received the mail?
[14:22] <compwiz18> activeobserver: sudo rmmod bcm43xx; sudo rmmod b43; sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[14:22] <cchild> I formated a windows drive with truecrypt, how can i read the drive in linux using truecrypt?
[14:22] <tobberoth> At the moment, I have no desktop manager, not even X installed. I want something I can call up from terminal so I can watch flashmovies on websites etc, but I still want to boot into CLI etc.. what's a good choice? xfce? is it hard to set up?
[14:22] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver: If you get no output, then check your connections and you should have wireless.
[14:22] <Zyroth> Pici: Yeah, seems pretty strange.
[14:23] <Survivorman> Gatestone, there were other ways to make gmail default that I used, but it broke with the new gmail. Haven't recently tested it though.
[14:23] <metroside> it was abount 53 packages, but when i went to remove it, there was only 5 or 6 packages.
[14:23] <Survivorman> ok ubuhackaa
[14:23] <activeobserver> ok i ran the modprobe
[14:23] <marx2k> cchild: http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS265&q=linux+truecrypt&btnG=Google+Search
[14:23] <Fallen__> Hello. I just made the mistake to try to dpkg -i a newer version of an installed package that is from hardy while I'm on gusty. Now I always get the unmet dependencies messages. apt-get -f install wants to remove 248 packages which doesn't sound like the right thing to do. How do I get out of this?
[14:23] <zackyramone> hello , can anyone tell me how to add vista to grub?
[14:23] <marx2k> or better yet... http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS265&q=site%3Aubuntuforums.org+truecrypt&btnG=Search
[14:23] <S0me1> Guys I found this in Ebay Linux Magazine (Going Virtual) PDF: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320235588190&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Fsofocus%3Dbs%26sbrftog%3D1%26dfsp%3D32%26from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm37%26satitle%3D320235588190%26sacat%3D-1%2526catref%253DC6%26sargn%3D-1%2526saslc%253D2%26sadis%3D200%26fpos%3DZIP%252FPostal%26sabfmts%3D1%26saobfmts%3Dinsif%26ftrt%3D1%26ftrv%3D1%26saprclo%3D%26saprchi%3D%26fsop
[14:23] <Pici> Zyroth: I was thinking it would be an apache2.conf problem, those usually cause the service not to start. But this is just weird.  Perhaps the #apache people have a better idea of what do do?
[14:23] <S0me1> I hope useful to you
[14:24] <ubuhackaa> activeobserver: Which interfaces does ifconfig show?
[14:24] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver: What was the output?
[14:24] <Pici> !offtopic | S0me1
[14:24] <ubotu> S0me1: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[14:24] <jrib> Fallen__: what package
[14:24] <activeobserver> no output
[14:24] <marx2k> SOme1: tinyurl is your friend
[14:24] <ubuhackaa> activeobserver: Is there a wlan0?
[14:24] <activeobserver> just a new line
[14:24] <Fallen__> jrib: libcairo2
[14:24] <Zyroth> Pici: Yeah, I will show them that
[14:24] <jrib> S0me1: is that related to support in any way?
[14:24] <activeobserver> what a wlan0
[14:24] <Zyroth> Pici: Thanks!
[14:24] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver: Okay, you should have wireless.
[14:24] <Fallen__> jrib: I need >= 1.5.2 but gutsy has some 1.4 package
[14:24] <activeobserver> i dont know
[14:24] <ubuhackaa> activeobserver: List all interfaces here.
[14:24] <activeobserver> i used iwconfig
[14:24] <FloodBot3> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[14:24] <activeobserver> its not recognized
[14:24] <jrib> Fallen__: so you want to downgrade the package or?
[14:24] <ubuhackaa> activeobserver: Ok, what does it say?
[14:24] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver; Right click on the icon at the top?
[14:24] <cchild> marx2k, thanks but that was the first thing i did before i came here any other suggestion on reading a windows drive formated with trycrypt in linux
[14:24] <S0me1> I think it will help users
[14:24] <compwiz18> activeobserver: run ifconfig -a and see if you see anything that says wlan0
[14:24] <S0me1> I just want share it like any link
[14:25] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver: Have you installed bcmwl5.inf?
[14:25] <Devyll> hello. i try to send mail via php script using mail(); and the email doesn't arrive to the destination. I have every email in /var/mail/www-data .. but the emails are not leaving the machine. Can you please tell me what is the sendmail log file ? (/var/log/mail* is empty)
[14:25] <compwiz18> S0me1: this is a support room, not a link sharing room :)
[14:25] <zackyramone> hello , can anyone tell me how to add vista to grub?
[14:25] <activeobserver> i tried it didnt let me when i type it i dont think
[14:25] <activeobserver> no wlan0
[14:25] <bazhang> S0me1: unless directly related to a support question offtopic thanks
[14:25] <Fallen__> jrib: no, upgrade. I am running gutsy, which has version 1.4. I only found a hardy package that provides 1.5.4. I need the newer package
[14:25] <babo> I create a document in OO Word that has the euro symbol in it. When i then save that document to pdf format, the euro symbol doesn't come out properly :-( What can i do about it ?
[14:25] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver: Okay, what do you have?
[14:25] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver: Do you have ndiswrapper installed properly?
[14:25] <activeobserver> yes
[14:25] <activeobserver> i have a macbook
[14:25] <marx2k> cchild: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=527560
[14:25] <activeobserver> broadcom 4328
[14:25] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver: Okay, do you have the bcmwl5.inf package?
[14:26] <activeobserver> yes
[14:26] <metroside> thanks guys found a site that shows all of the packages in gnome so i figure I will just remove them all and that should fix the problem
[14:26] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver: Not *a* package specifically for that, but there is one. Let me check.
[14:26] <activeobserver> im pretty sure
[14:26] <Gatestone> Survivorman, I was thinking that it would be more elegant to have Gmail default for all mail, not just for Firefox.
[14:26] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver: Okay, is it called bcm4328.zip?
[14:26] <jrib> Fallen__: but did you not install the new package and find out that it was a mess with dependencies?
[14:27] <activeobserver> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62019/   this is my output console so far Chaostheory
[14:27] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver: Do lspci. You have a Broadcom card, right?
[14:27] <activeobserver> yes
[14:27] <juannicolas> Hi, I'm having some problems with my Gutsy/Ubuntu server. everytime my pc stop working properly i have to restart it. When I check the /var/log/message file I see that at the time my computer breaks down this is the message: kernel: [12215.704189] Modules linked in: iptable_filter iptable_mangle ipt_MASQUERADE iptable_nat nf_nat nf_conntrack_ipv4 nf_conntrack nfnetlink ip_tables x_tables nls_iso8859_1 nls_cp437 vfat fat parport_pc lp par
[14:27] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver: What does lspci output?
[14:27] <Fallen__> jrib: I was not able to install the new package, since it depended on libpixman, which I didn't have installed. But now I'm getting the unmet dependency error mesages?
[14:28] <activeobserver> 02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4328 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 03)
[14:28] <gorbierd> hi room
[14:28] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver: Awesome.
[14:28] <bazhang> hi
[14:28] <jrib> Fallen__: pastebin the errors
[14:28] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver: So you have the bcm4328.zip somewhere?
[14:28] <gorbierd> what do i do to run some script at the start up?
[14:28] <activeobserver> im not sure
[14:28] <aviv_bluesky> wefg
[14:28] <Pici> gorbierd: login or boot up?
[14:28] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver: I'll send it to you to make sure.
[14:28] <activeobserver> awesome
[14:28] <gorbierd> hmm boot up
[14:28] <activeobserver> how do i put your name before i type? heh
[14:28] <Pici> !boot > gorbierd (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[14:28] <Pici> !tab | activeobserver
[14:28] <activeobserver> im new to Irc as well
[14:28] <ubotu> activeobserver: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[14:29] <zackyramone> hello , can anyone tell me how to add vista to grub?
[14:29] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver: I usually just type it out, but try "Chao" then tab.
[14:29] <gorbierd> Pici just a moment
[14:29] <activeobserver> ubotu: thanks!
[14:29] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[14:29] <Gatestone> What do you use for IRC? I am starting to get sick to this Pidgin, but is there any better than going back to xchat-gnome?
[14:29] <activeobserver> ChaosTheory: coolbeans
[14:29] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver: I've tried to send it to you?
[14:29] <activeobserver> ChaosTheory: you did?
[14:29] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver: Did you get anything asking you to accept?
[14:29] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver: Do you have an email?
[14:29] <marx2k> I use bitchx... but that's for console.. not gui
[14:29] <activeobserver> ChaosTheory: no
[14:29] <activeobserver> yes
[14:30] <Survivorman> Gatestone, I agree, but the problem is that Gmail broke ALL mailto in every app in every OS with there Gmail 2 update, and I'm not sure if new hacks have been devised. Give me a sec to check.
[14:30] <compwiz18> Gatestone: you can use xchat (but not the -gnome version), irssi, and konversation are some I can think of off the top of my heat
[14:30] <activeobserver> ChaosTheory: ryan.seideman@gmail.com
[14:30] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver: Are you comfortable with saying it on the channel?
[14:30] <gorbierd> Pici thanks thats great, and what about login?
[14:30] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver: Okay, one second.
[14:30] <Pici> !session | gorbierd
[14:30] <ubotu> gorbierd: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[14:31] <jaffarkelshac> when you install programs from source, and the make install finishes how do you run it, coz it does not appear in any menu
[14:31] <gorbierd> Pici thanks ! i think i need boot as soon as my script need a sudo perms(it customize my network options)
[14:31] <erUSUL> jaffarkelshac: what program ?
[14:31] <Mez> jaffarkelshac, it depends on the program. What program?
[14:31] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver: Gmail won't let me send it (it has an .exe).
[14:31] <Pici> gorbierd: Things that run at boot run with root permissions.
[14:31] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver: AIM? =|
[14:31] <Gatestone> compwiz18, what do you mean I can not use xchat Gnome version? I can, but I am thinking if there is anything better.
[14:31] <activeobserver> yes
[14:31] <activeobserver> ChaosTheory: Tristram29
[14:31] <Owner> has anyone had trouble starting kde4 in a second x server since the kde4.0.2 update
[14:32] <erUSUL> jaffarkelshac: Alt + F2 put the binary name and run
[14:32] <Fallen__> jrib: Actually, it seems it was partially installed. I managed to downgrade the package and everything is back to normal again. Thanks for answering to my question though :-)
[14:32] <jaffarkelshac> its called coreutils-6.10 erUSUL Mez
[14:32] <gorbierd> ubotu is great, is it new feature of the channel?
[14:32] <jrib> gorbierd: nope, he's been here a while
[14:32] <Survivorman> Gatestone, read this:http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/set-gmail-as-default-mail-client-in-ubuntu/. You may need to read it through carefully as it was the original fix you wanted prior to gmail 2.
[14:32] <compwiz18> Gatestone: there is an xchat, and an xchat-gnome -- I prefer xchat to xchat-gnome myself, check your package manager :)
[14:32] <Pici> gorbierd: ignore the message that it was forwarding your thing to the ops
[14:33] <Danger_> Xchat here
[14:33] <gorbierd> Pici np)
[14:33] <erUSUL> jaffarkelshac: coreutils?? why would anyone build that from source... iirc coreutils contains ls, cp, mv and that kind of "core" unix utils....
[14:33] <marx2k> I'm completely starting to enjoy console based programs like bitchx and naim to their gui equals
[14:33] <ChaosTheory> silentobserver: Are you there?
[14:33] <marx2k> especially since I can be at work, ssh to my home box and go on IRC (like now)
[14:33] <ChaosTheory> silentobserver: I'm trying to send you it.
[14:33] <gorbierd> jrib ok
[14:33] <activeobserver> ChaosTheory: i got it
[14:33] <ChaosTheory> Silentobserver? Where did I get that? =D
[14:34] <ChaosTheory> Silent vs. active. . .
[14:34] <marx2k> and using screen to persist those applications after I go home is even better
[14:34] <Owner> "xinit /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde -- :1" brings up x on a second virtual terminal but after the kde welcome/loading window the screen goes black
[14:34] <jaffarkelshac> erUSUL, why is it a bad thing
[14:34] <activeobserver> ChaosTheory: heheh
[14:34] <erUSUL> jaffarkelshac: so there you are... anytime you use mv or cp or chown from command line you will be using the "new" coreutils
[14:34] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver: Okay. One second.
[14:34] <activeobserver> ChaosTheory: did it all come through i think i might have messed it up im really not used to this client lol
[14:35] <Mez> jaffarkelshac, coreutils is just a package for your command line stuff. It should be installed already
[14:35] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver: Hm, yes. It said the transfer was complete.
[14:35] <activeobserver> ok nice
[14:35] <erUSUL> jaffarkelshac: not a bad thing per se i just though that it is rather pointless ;P
[14:35] <activeobserver> ChaosTheory: now i open it right?
[14:35] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver: Copy and paste all of the files in it to your desktop.
[14:36] <jaffarkelshac> i was reading through a security list by ubuntu and that came under secure deletion
[14:36] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver: Now open up Terminal and do ~/Desktop
[14:36] <activeobserver> ChaosTheory: just a sec still looking where the file went
[14:36] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver: Oops, I mean cd ~/Desktop.
[14:36] <activeobserver> ChaosTheory: is there a way to search?
[14:36] <chell> metroside: isn't ubuntu-desktop a meta-package?
[14:36] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver: Oh, okay.
[14:37] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver: Which version of Ubuntu do you have?
[14:37] <erUSUL> ChaosTheory: yes it is
[14:37] <activeobserver> ChaosTheory: 7.1
[14:37] <faintofhearts> Anyone know what switch I can use to launch mplayer without it giving me output of what it's doing?
[14:37] <jaffarkelshac> erUSUL, i should have read the page properly https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SecureDeletion the command is shred to use it
[14:37] <darko> having problems with mysql, any help
[14:37] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver: Okay, do you have the little orange icon at the top? Near the rest of your icons?
[14:37] <activeobserver> ChaosTheory: not that i see
[14:38] <cchild> marx2k, how would I add  windows truecrypt drives to my fstab?
[14:38] <activeobserver> ChaosTheory: found it!
[14:38] <sunbird> anyone have expertise getting an unrecognized internal bluetooth adapter to work? i know the adapter is supported because i had it working last week, but then did a reinstall and now ubuntu doesn't see the adapter.
[14:38] <erUSUL> jaffarkelshac: yep no need for a new version of coreutils shred is instaled by default ;)
[14:38] <activeobserver> ChaosTheory: ok i extracted it i think
[14:38] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver: Great.
[14:38] <jaffarkelshac> that, i did not know erUSUL
[14:39] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver: So it's on your Desktop?
[14:39] <activeobserver> ChaosTheory: yes
[14:39] <marx2k> cchild: beats me :) look up 'truecrypt fstab'
[14:39] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver: Open up a terminal and do cd ~/Desktop
[14:39] <activeobserver> ChaosTheory: and im in the desktop
[14:39] <activeobserver> ChaosTheory: check
[14:39] <erUSUL> jaffarkelshac: everyday you learn something new... anyway no harm done afaics
[14:39] <marx2k> maybe you just add it as a normal ntfs drive? truecrypt may just be a wrapper layer
[14:39] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver: ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf
[14:39] <ubuhackaa> SurvivorMan: Ok, I replied.
[14:40] <activeobserver> ChaosTheory: count not create permission denied
[14:40] <marx2k> !sudo
[14:40] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[14:40] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver: precede with sudo, then.
[14:40] <jaffarkelshac> erUSUL, funny enough i do learn something each day with ubuntu. how would you uninstall something if you did install with (./configure make make install)
[14:40] <activeobserver> ChaosTheory: ok installed
[14:40] <ries> Hey guys, do all ubunty desktop CD's contains the live version?
[14:41] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver: modprobe ndiswrapper
[14:41] <iositd> ries, no, the alternate don't
[14:41] <ChaosTheory> activeobser: with sudo. =D
[14:41] <ries> a friend of mine want's to try it, but not without removing windows
[14:41] <LjL> jaffarkelshac: there is no universal way. that's why it's usually recommended that things are installed using APT. that said, "make uninstall" works with some makefiles.
[14:41] <ChaosTheory> iositd: Hi? =D
[14:41] <sunbird> ries: set them up on the live cd.
[14:41] <activeobserver> ChaosTheory: ok
[14:41] <ChaosTheory> hischild: Hi.
[14:41] <zerod> sup?
[14:41] <hischild> ChaosTheory, good day
[14:41] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver: Any output?
[14:41] <Evil_Ed> sup
[14:41] <activeobserver> ChaosTheory: no
[14:41] <ChaosTheory> hischild: Your command was ./sound .ch, yes?
[14:41] <ries> sunbird: so if I download and don't check 'alternate' then he is fine, right?
[14:41] <sunbird> ries: just don't use the alternate.
[14:41] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver: Check your connections again.
[14:41] <sunbird> ries: yup.
[14:41] <jaffarkelshac> gotcha LjL
[14:41] <ries> Ok.... great
[14:41] <Helix82> Guys... in wat are the cases tht a applications can hang... i facing this problem with my gusty installed in Compaq v3000
[14:41] <hischild> ChaosTheory, it was ./sound.sh from the folder where you saved it.
[14:41] <Helix82> simple application like firefox... i am not have this prob in my lenovo...
[14:41] <hischild> ries, yes
[14:42] <activeobserver> iwconfig says no extenstions :(
[14:42] <ChaosTheory> hischild: Right. Where did I say it? =D
[14:42] <ChaosTheory> iwconfig: Hm.
[14:42] <ChaosTheory> -__-
[14:42] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver: ndiswrapper -l
[14:42] <erUSUL> jaffarkelshac: i'm afraid that if the package does not provide an uninstall make target (so you can do «sudo make uninstall») you have to do it by hand... (removing the stuff with rm)
[14:42] <jaffarkelshac> so it aptitude a common way to install across all linux distributions? LjL  erUSUL
[14:42] <hischild> ChaosTheory, i gave you a link to a pastebin where i put the script. You copied it to a new script and made it executable, and then ran it.
[14:42] <hischild> jaffarkelshac, only for distro's that use the apt way.
[14:42] <erUSUL> jaffarkelshac: to avoid this kind of trouble you can use checkinstall...
[14:42] <activeobserver> ChaosTheory: bcmwl5 and net5416 installed
[14:43] <erUSUL> !info checkinstall | jaffarkelshac
[14:43] <ubotu> jaffarkelshac: Package checkinstall does not exist in gutsy
[14:43] <LjL> jaffarkelshac: no, APT was created for Debian. there are a few distributions that are Debian-derived (or that use APT anyway without being Debian-derived), but there are also many that use completely different packaging formats
[14:43] <Pici> jaffarkelshac: running a make uninstall for something like coreutils is probably not a good thing/
[14:43] <LjL> erUSUL: !info is broken
[14:43] <LjL> !checkinstall
[14:43] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[14:43] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver: And when you right click on your connections you don't get wireless?
[14:43] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver: Are you on a direct connection right now?
[14:43] <erUSUL> LjL: still no joy with info ubotu command :(
[14:43] <activeobserver> ChaosTheory: yes i am
[14:43] <rawb> would it be easier to upgrade to 8.04 LTS from 6.06 LTS or 7.10 (server editions)? or does it not matter?
[14:43] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver: left click -> manual configuration?
[14:43] <LjL> !hardy > rawb    (rawb, see the private message from Ubotu)
[14:43] <ChaosTheory> hischild: Okay, I have the sound .sh in gedit.
[14:43] <erUSUL> LjL: i see ;P thanks
[14:43] <ChaosTheory> hischild: Sorry.
[14:44] <activeobserver> ChaosTheory: yes i am there there is no wireless in the box
[14:44] <hischild> what's the easy way to add files to a .iso without having to remaster the whole thing?
[14:44] <activeobserver> ChaosTheory: wired and modem
[14:44] <Evil_Ed> I'll soon find out
[14:44] <jaffarkelshac> thanks for your help LjL Pici erUSUL
[14:44] <hischild> ChaosTheory, ok, then save it and go in console to the folder you saved it. Then type chmod +x sound.sh and then run it.
[14:44] <erUSUL> jaffarkelshac: youre wellcome
[14:45] <ChaosTheory> hischild: No output?
[14:45] <activeobserver> ChaosTheory: would you mind if i take a break and send you a message on AIM sometime in the future?
[14:45] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver: One second.
[14:45] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver: We can communicate through AIM, if you want.
[14:45] <lee__> ?
[14:45] <erUSUL> hischild: most "easy" programs to modify isos will remaster it behind the scenes anyway iirc
[14:45] <ChaosTheory> activeobserver: Okay, no problem.
[14:45] <jaffarkelshac> is there a way to download all the contents of the current repository on to a cd for computers that does not have internet.
[14:46] <LjL> jaffarkelshac: there are a few
[14:46] <LjL> !aptoncd
[14:46] <ubotu> APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
[14:46] <hischild> erUSUL, if it's an easy program to use then it's ok. I just am kind of lazy today and have to add a single file to an iso.
[14:46] <hischild> ChaosTheory, chmod will give you no output. The script should give you a lot of output.
[14:47] <ChaosTheory> hischild: How do I execute it?
[14:47] <hischild> ChaosTheory, type ./sound
[14:47] <hischild> *./sound.sh
[14:47] <negge> everyone should go to http://ubuntuhcl.org/ and write a review for hardware that's not yet on the list
[14:47] <ChaosTheory> hischild: Oh, there was an extra space in there.
[14:47] <liu> #muxlim
[14:47] <ChaosTheory> hischild. -_- sorry.
[14:47] <negge> that way when a previous Windows user wants to try Ubuntu he can check his hardware
[14:47] <hischild> ChaosTheory, use tab completion :-)
[14:47] <lxuser> hello, does anyone know how to mount an mtp with mtpfs?
[14:48] <LjL> hischild: i see "isomaster"
[14:48] <jaffarkelshac> you have been most helpful. LjL
[14:48] <erUSUL> hischild: acetone iso ??
[14:48] <lxuser> im trying to get my sansa in playsforsure mode
[14:48] <faintofhearts> Anyone know a switch to block terminal output from mplayer?
[14:48] <hischild> erUSUL, LjL, let's have a look ... thanks
[14:48] <lxuser> i just dont know what the mtp mount point is since its not sdc1 like the regular disk mode is.
[14:49] <marx2k> are we able to interface with the Zune mp3 player yet?
[14:49] <hischild> faintofhearts, mplayer <file> > /dev/null
[14:49] <ubuhackaa> Thanks for all your help. Goodbye.
[14:49] <lxuser> i think the zune uses mtp too
[14:49] <JPRuskin> would anyone mind answering a quick question for a first time installer?
[14:49] <lxuser> there is something called mtfs that is supposed to let us modify them, but i cant figure out how to mount it.
[14:50] <erUSUL> !ask | JPRuskin
[14:50] <ubotu> JPRuskin: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[14:50] <lxuser> mtpfs rather
[14:50] <ChaosTheory> hischild, Wow. A *lot* of output. =P
[14:50] <marx2k> So... is that a yes?
[14:50] <hischild> ChaosTheory, that's what i said =) can you pastebin it all please?
[14:50] <ChaosTheory> hischild: How do I know if it worked?
[14:50] <marx2k> !zune
[14:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zune - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:50] <marx2k> :(
[14:50] <lxuser> marx2k, i dont own one, but i think so maybe
[14:51] <ChaosTheory> hischild: One second.
[14:51] <lxuser> in other news did anyone see the update on amarok 2?
[14:51] <JPRuskin> sorry, okay, I'm trying to install the GRUB boot loader, it's had a lovely fatal error- is the LILO bootloader a substitute or am I in trouble/should research another way to boot.
[14:51] <linuxmonger> Is it okay to ask about asking to ask a question?
[14:51] <LjL> !ot
[14:51] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[14:51] <lxuser> it will have full support of the ipod store... again.
[14:51] <ChaosTheory> hischild: I can't see all of it in terminal. . .
[14:51] <marx2k> I dont want an iPod and it seems Zune is the best bang for the buck, but as expected from MS, it has (or had issues) with liunx
[14:51] <hischild> ChaosTheory, scroll up?
[14:51] <hischild> ChaosTheory, otherwise just pastebin what you can see
[14:52] <ChaosTheory> hischild: It doesn't show all of it.
[14:52] <Exteris> marx2k, there are quite some other ones
[14:52] <ChaosTheory> hischild: Okay.
[14:52] <lxuser> marx2k, it uses this weird file system called mtp i think, and it works... but its hard to get working
[14:52] <lxuser> it isnt really a file system
[14:52] <erUSUL> JPRuskin: lilo is substitute yes but it is an older less flexible desing...
[14:52] <faintofhearts> Thanks hischild.
[14:52] <daedra> does ubuntu have a c++ compiler?
[14:52] <lxuser> for lack of a better word, we'll just call it a "BLARG@!$"
[14:52] <marx2k> Exteris: I dunno..the Zune has some large storage capacity and is at a good price point.. can you name some others?
[14:53] <hischild> faintofhearts, > /dev/null pipes all normal output to /dev/null which basically is the black hole ...
[14:53] <marx2k> lxuser: I dont get why they cant just use ntfs
[14:53] <faintofhearts> All normal
[14:53] <LjL> daedra: GCC has a C compiler.
[14:53] <LjL> !compile > daedra    (daedra, see the private message from Ubotu)
[14:53] <ChaosTheory> hischild, http://pastebin.com/d757a8de
[14:53] <marx2k> so i can mount it just as an external drive and throw mp3s on it
[14:53] <LjL> err, C++ i meant.
[14:53] <lxuser> marx2k, because that would be too easy?
[14:53] <Exteris> marx2k, i'll search, there was one that looked promised
[14:53] <faintofhearts> What can I do to pipe errors there as well?
[14:53] <daedra> LjL: tanx
[14:53] <faintofhearts> I'm getting some errors, but they aren't important
[14:53] <Lamego> faintofhearts, 2>&1
[14:53] <faintofhearts> ).0
[14:53] <Lamego> or 2>/dev/null
[14:53] <JPRuskin> erUSUL: can I reattempt to install GRUB after the ubuntu installation (I assume so), and if so should I install LILO now as a way to boot ubuntu?
[14:53] <faintofhearts> That at the end of the command?
[14:54] <Lamego> faintofhearts, yes
[14:54] <hischild> ChaosTheory, let's do it by hand then ...
[14:54] <fuo> hi*
[14:54] <ChaosTheory> iositd: What?
[14:54] <linuxmonger> marx2K: The iRivers are nice, and they do .ogg as well.
[14:54] <lxuser> one last time, does anyone know how to mount my mtp mp4 player with mtpfs?
[14:54] <fuo> what this  command tell ?  cp /tmp/root/* /mnt -a
[14:54] <Exteris> marx2k, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SanDisk_Sansa
[14:54] <hischild> ChaosTheory, hischild ;-) and the compiling of your sound.
[14:54] <IndyGunFreak> JPRuskin: i can't imagine a situation where lilo would be better than grub
[14:54] <daedra> LjL: so, would GCC compile C++ aswell?
[14:54] <lxuser> exteris, do you know how to get the sansa to mount in mtp mode?
[14:55] <ChaosTheory> hischild, =D
[14:55] <JPRuskin> IndyGunFreak: even if it wasn't installed/working?
[14:55] <ChaosTheory> hischild, okay. I don't know what that means. Let's do it. =D
[14:55] <hischild> ChaosTheory, do you think you can make any sense of this guide ==> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[14:55] <IndyGunFreak> JPRuskin: well reinstlal it
[14:55] <LjL> daedra, GCC is the GNU Compiler Collection, it compiles an awful lot of languages. and yes, it certainly does compile C++.
[14:55] <Exteris> lxuser, no, i don't have one, but i got recommendations of this one
[14:55] <marx2k> Exteris: the problem with those is the small storage capacities
[14:55] <fuo> what this  command tell ?  cp /tmp/root/* /mnt -a
[14:55] <fuo> hello
[14:55] <daedra> :D
[14:55] <JPRuskin> IndyGunFreak: have tried, same error. No help in the error! simply stating that it's failed.
[14:55] <Exteris> marx2k, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_portable_media_players
[14:55] <faintofhearts> Thanks.
[14:55] <marx2k> ahh
[14:55] <lxuser> exteris, its nice, but using the regular fat32 mode is quirky. It wont update your playlist some times.
[14:55] <ChaosTheory> hischild, nope. =D
[14:56] <fuo> what this  command tell ?  cp /tmp/root/* /mnt -a
[14:56] <fuo> what this  command tell ?  cp /tmp/root/* /mnt -a
[14:56] <fuo> plz
[14:56] <FloodBot1> fuo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:56] <fuo> plz
[14:56] <fuo> what this  command tell ?  cp /tmp/root/* /mnt -a
[14:56] <hischild> ChaosTheory, lol ... ok well it requires a lot of reading ..
[14:56] <Exteris> marx2k, i use a zen stone here, i don't need a display, and it works well (fat)
[14:56] <IndyGunFreak> fuo: take a paxil, someone will respond if they know
[14:56] <daedra> fuo: it looks like it copies everything in /tmp/root into /mnt
[14:56] <lxuser> im thinking about buying a iriver
[14:56] <hischild> ChaosTheory, just do as it tells you exactly and you'll be fine. I'll be here about one more hour to answer questions.
[14:57] <ChaosTheory> hischild, okay.
[14:57] <marx2k> Exteris: Whats the storage capacity on that?
[14:57] <fuo> thx daedra a
[14:57] <IndyGunFreak> lxuser: which one?
[14:57] <fuo> why * ?
[14:57] <linuxmonger> fuo: it copies from /tmp/root/* to /mnt and does so as an archive (keeping permissions and such)
[14:57] <lxuser> indygunfreak, dunno, which do you recommend?
[14:57] <IndyGunFreak> lxuser: i just get ipods, thats why i asked..lol
[14:57] <Exteris> marx2k, 1gb on the simple version without display (40 euro here)
[14:57] <fuo> what tell "*" ?
[14:57] <fuo> what tell " * " ?
[14:57] <spiderfire> can i run off a usb thumb drive?
[14:58] <fuo> what that it mean in this command cp /tmp/root/* /mnt -a
[14:58] <lxuser> indygunfreak, i honestly just need a lot of storage with support for flac. a classic ipod would work for me but they break really fast.
[14:58] <IndyGunFreak> lxuser: supposedly, the microsoft players, work very well under Linux(lol)
[14:58] <ChaosTheory> hischild, okay, the first step worked.
[14:58] <linuxmonger> fuo: The asterisk is a wildcard that means all files and folders
[14:58] <Exteris> fuo, it's a wildcard
[14:58] <lxuser> indygunfreak, yeah but they cost a pretty penny.
[14:58] <marx2k> Exteris: I take it minidisc recorders are still huge in Europe?
[14:58] <IndyGunFreak> lxuser: i see, well, i have a 30gig video, adn a 4gig nano both about a year old, and they work great.
[14:58] <thommiey> sdfgdfg
[14:59] <ChaosTheory> hischild, how do I install my "kernel headers?"
[14:59] <IndyGunFreak> but i only use them for mp3
[14:59] <Exteris> marx2k, minidisk? it's 1gb flash (like the ipod shuffle)
[14:59] <hischild> ChaosTheory, use the command it gives you
[14:59] <fuo> ok thx linuxmongerand Exteris
[14:59] <IndyGunFreak> lxuser: well, i think i saw something where an iRiver works well under LInux
[14:59] <JPRuskin> IndyGunFreak: the entire ubuntu installation, or just... Ah! Dell Inspiron/similar laptops have that weird home button, with the media center thing? Would that be affecting this?
[14:59] <ChaosTheory> hischild, it says install kernel headers twice. . .
[14:59] <hischild> ChaosTheory,  linux-headers-`uname -r` part of that commands is your kernel headers.
[14:59] <ChaosTheory> hischild, okay, I did that.
[14:59] <hischild> ChaosTheory, useful ... once is enough
[14:59] <IndyGunFreak> JPRuskin: i would say thats pretty unlikely
[15:00] <ChaosTheory> hischild, oh, okay.
[15:00] <lxuser> indygunfreak, I just need a lot of room since flac files are huge. 30 gigs would be good if i could find it for under $250
[15:00] <marx2k> Exteris: Yeah, but last time I was in europe, people were still using minidisc players a lot
[15:00] <IndyGunFreak> !grub | JPRuskin try following the instructios to reinstall grub.
[15:00] <ubotu> JPRuskin try following the instructios to reinstall grub.: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[15:00] <JPRuskin> IndyGunFreak: fair enough.
[15:00] <lxuser> anyway, im off to school peace
[15:00] <JPRuskin> IndyGunFreak: Thanks, and will try
[15:01] <Exteris> marx2k, minidisc is a small cd? if so, how many years ago? most ppl have ipods or other mp3 players
[15:01] <ChaosTheory> hischild, which one is the newest driver?
[15:01] <ChaosTheory> hischild, ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/
[15:01] <marx2k> yeah it's like a small CD...rewritable, 1GB each... was about 3 years ago
[15:02] <hischild> ChaosTheory, the one with the highest version number, i think 1.0.16rc1
[15:02] <Exteris> marx2k, i've never seen one of those :P
[15:02] <Pici> !ot
[15:02] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[15:02] <marx2k> I love my minidisc player but it's a Sony recorder and Sony made sure that the only way you can write to it was via Sony software...and that Sony software ONLY works in Windows
[15:02] <ChaosTheory> hischild, it seems like "File: alsa-driver-1.0.9rc4a.tar.bz2" is the highest one?
[15:02] <marx2k> Exteris: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minidisk
[15:03] <hischild> ChaosTheory, imo 1.0.16 is higher then 1.0.9 :-) look a bit up, it's between 0.2 and 0.1
[15:03] <ChaosTheory> hischild, okay. =D
[15:03] <IndyGunFreak> hischild: maybe, but mathematically, chaos is right
[15:03] <marx2k> Whats nice about minidiscs is it takes a LOT of shock to make them skip and their batteries last FOREVER (I can get 14+ hours out of one AA battery)
[15:04] <daedra> http://dis.4chan.org/read/prog/1206246593
[15:04] <daedra> sorry
[15:04] <ChaosTheory> hischild, there's an rc1 and an rc2?
[15:04] <cchild> can i use truecrypt to encrypt a root system that is already active?
[15:04] <daedra> wrong channel
[15:04] <marx2k> but now I want something I can sync up with my linux box(es)
[15:04] <IndyGunFreak> ChaosTheory: what are you tryinng to do?
[15:04] <Exteris> marx2k, that rocks :P my zen stone only lasts like 12 hours
[15:04] <ChaosTheory> IndyGunFreak, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[15:04] <IndyGunFreak> ChaosTheory: whats the make/model of your PC?
[15:05] <ChaosTheory> IndyGunFreak, HP dv6000?
[15:05] <hischild> IndyGunFreak, i know, but i know the way those files are organized.
[15:05] <hischild> ChaosTheory, i prefer not to mix rc versions, so i'd stick with rc1.
[15:05] <hischild> ChaosTheory, one of those files doesn't have a rc2
[15:05] <ChaosTheory> hischild, oh, okay.
[15:05] <IndyGunFreak> ChaosTheory: just curious,
[15:05] <IndyGunFreak> how exactly is your intelHDA device identified in lspci?
[15:06] <ChaosTheory> IndyGunFreak, HDA?
[15:06] <hischild> IndyGunFreak, updating alsa fixes not only intel sound. His sound isn't working thus i suggested the upgrade
[15:06] <IndyGunFreak> hischild: i know, i've got intel hda sound on my laptop, i've had to recompile alsa before, i'm just curious as to his device
[15:06] <Rampage> Hi, I'm having some trouble with the keyboard layout. It was working fine 2 hours ago and not sure what i did but the keys are all jumbled and i can't seem to restore the keyboard layout from the gui. Any ideas?
[15:07] <genii> ChaosTheory: eg: what does: lspci | grep Audio                    report
[15:07] <IndyGunFreak> ChaosTheory: open your terminal, and lspci, and see exactly what intel hDA device you have
[15:07] <ChaosTheory> genii: Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP67 High Definition Audio (rev a1)
[15:07] <IndyGunFreak> thastn ot intel
[15:08] <genii> IndyGunFreak: No, it's an NForce chipset
[15:08] <IndyGunFreak> nevermind, yeah i see thatnow.
[15:08] <Adantan_Alex> ho
[15:08] <Adantan_Alex> hi*
[15:09] <sivel_> hello all
[15:09] <Adantan_Alex> ok i need some help
[15:09] <Adantan_Alex> hi
[15:09] <sivel_> as do i
[15:09] <Pici> !ask
[15:09] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[15:10] <LL00> hi
[15:10] <LL00> how i can ping 2 host with ipv6?
[15:10] <LL00> ping6 ipv6_host ?
[15:11] <LL00> ping6 [ipv6_host] ?
[15:11] <Pici> LL00: yes.
[15:11] <Adantan_Alex> dual booting
[15:11] <pihhan> LL00: fping maybe
[15:11] <Adantan_Alex> i want to dual boot windows and ubuntu
[15:11] <Adantan_Alex> on the same hard drive
[15:11] <cchild> can truecrypt encrypt an already active root directory?
[15:11] <erUSUL> !dualboot | Adantan_Alex
[15:11] <ubotu> Adantan_Alex: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[15:12] <hischild> cchild, no it cannot
[15:12] <LL00> !ipv6
[15:12] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[15:12] <mandana> Using netperf/netserver, I get this message when I run netserver:Starting netserver at port 12865
[15:12] <mandana> set_up_server could not establish a listen endpoint for  port 12865 with family AF_UNSPEC
[15:12] <LL00> lol disable ipv6, I want to enable and use it
[15:13] <Pici> LL00: man ping6, that describes its usage
[15:13] <pihhan> it is enabled by default, just use it
[15:13] <cchild> hischild, so how would I encrypt a root directory with truecript?
[15:13] <Adantan_Alex> just do !dual | adantan_alex ^^
[15:13] <ChaosTheory> hischild, I got an error at sudo make.
[15:13] <Rampage> any ideas how i can respore the keyboard settings
[15:13] <Adantan_Alex> i do !dual boot
[15:13] <Adantan_Alex> but i need some personal help
[15:13] <cchild>   hischild, so how would I encrypt a root directory with truecript? and or the entire system using truecrypt?
[15:13] <pihhan> but you might realize there is still too few applications where ipv6 does make sense and it does work
[15:13] <Adantan_Alex> !dual boot
[15:13] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[15:13] <Adantan_Alex> nm its ok
[15:13] <LL00> pihhan, I got "invalid argument
[15:13] <Pici> Adantan_Alex: You need to ask a question in here then.
[15:13] <erUSUL> LL00: "ping6 ::1" should work through loopback
[15:14] <LL00>  ping6 fe80::20c:29ff:fef7:662e
[15:14] <Adantan_Alex> im alright for now its ok
[15:14] <hischild> cchild, make a backup of the drive and then encrypt it, if you manage to get it to boot properly with it. Though using the built-in encryption is probably easier.
[15:14] <hischild> ChaosTheory, what error?
[15:14] <LL00> loopback it's ok
[15:14] <pihhan> LL00: to ping link local address, you have to use -I parameter i think. ipv6%device does not work i believe
[15:14] <ChaosTheory> hischild, http://pastebin.com/d2d76197
[15:14] <ChaosTheory> hischild, that's what came up at the end.
[15:14] <erUSUL> LL00: then the ipv6 address you are using is malformed; isn't it?
[15:14] <ChaosTheory> hischild, everything else seems to be okay?
[15:15] <LL00> 2 pcs on lan
[15:15] <LL00> with ubuntu
[15:15] <hischild> ChaosTheory, i need more then just this part i'm afraid ... can you be more specific? like copy the entire output from what  you can see?
[15:15] <erUSUL> !enter | LL00
[15:15] <ubotu> LL00: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[15:15] <LL00> ok
[15:15] <Adantan_Alex> !enter
[15:15] <pihhan> LL00: you need to assign normal address, as using link-local addresses is complicated and i think applications does not support it
[15:16] <Adantan_Alex> !report
[15:16] <ChaosTheory> hischild, http://pastebin.com/d6b2d203b
[15:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about report - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:16] <Adantan_Alex> ....
[15:16] <Adantan_Alex> !dual boot
[15:16] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[15:16] <Pici> !msgthebot | Adantan_Alex
[15:16] <ubotu> Adantan_Alex: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[15:16] <LL00> you mean ping on LAN host?
[15:16] <robilive> hello world
[15:17] <renatahon> oi
[15:17] <ChaosTheory> hischild, I think that was "sudo make install," maybe.
[15:17] <pihhan> LL00: if you want to ping remote host, use ping6 -I eth0 fe80::21a:80ff:...
[15:17] <renatahon> quem esta ai?
[15:18] <hischild> ChaosTheory, this might sound stupid ... but please remove the /usr/src/alsa* directories and then do it again ... it might be that 2 versions got switched through each other ..
[15:18] <Lamego> !br | renatahon
[15:18] <ubotu> renatahon: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[15:18] <LjL> !pt | renatahon
[15:18] <dinochopins> anyone know the replacement of camtasio studio over linux/ubuntu ?
[15:18] <ChaosTheory> hischild, how?
[15:18] <ChaosTheory> hischild, just move out of those directories?
[15:18] <hischild> ChaosTheory, yes.
[15:18] <ConstyXIV> is there any way to swap the Ctrl and Alt keys?
[15:18] <ChaosTheory> hischild, so just go back to home?
[15:18] <LL00> thx pihhan
[15:18] <LL00> it works
[15:18] <LjL> ConstyXIV: try "xkeycaps"
[15:19] <hischild> ChaosTheory, mv /usr/src/alsa* ~/ should move them to home
[15:19] <pihhan> LL00: as more than one interfaces can have link-local address, you have to always specify which interface you mean
[15:19] <LjL> ConstyXIV: that won't work in text mode, though
[15:19] <cdecarlo> Hello, I'm having problems with my vpn connection (pptp) clobbering my dns or something along those lines, is there any help out there for me?
[15:19] <cchild> hischild,  i have to ext3 formated drive, one has root (not using different partitions for /home, /boot/, etc) and the other is blank. Should i just copy all to the blank drive, encrypt the main hd and the copy back in the data?
[15:19] <LL00> but with ipv4 you not need to specify the interface, right?
[15:19] <IndyGunFreak> no help at all, i'd suggest giving up
[15:19] <hischild> cchild, you should be aware that your /boot has to be unencrypted, no matter what your setup is.
[15:20] <R-C-PC1> has anyone played with wubi in xp?
[15:20] <R-C-PC1> it's installed but how do I run it?
[15:20] <Diet> When trying to install Ubuntu, an error appears: "buffer I/o error on device fd0, logical device 0", Can anybody help please?
[15:20] <Lamego> R-C-PC1, you boot , you should have a new boot entry
[15:21] <cdecarlo> Diet: try the alternate install
[15:21] <pihhan> LL00: correction: ubuntu gutsy does accept in ipv6 also %device format, so you can  ping6 fe80::21a:80ff:fe49:c743%eth0 also
[15:21] <LL00> oh
[15:21] <cchild> hischild, this is a new drive and the only data on it is the os, but i want it encrypted.
[15:21] <R-C-PC1> Lamego I'll try that quickly thx
[15:21] <LL00> pihhan, right
[15:21] <LL00> it works
[15:21] <someone> hey
[15:22] <ChaosTheory> hischild, okay, I did that.
[15:22] <LL00> so I can ssh ipv6%device ?
[15:22] <ChaosTheory> hischild, now just run sudo make, sudo make install again?
[15:22] <ChaosTheory> hischild, it says I'm still in the directory.
[15:22] <pihhan> dont know, i am not at place i can test it, never tried
[15:22] <hischild> ChaosTheory, then follow the guide from the part of the copying.
[15:22] <LL00> cool, it's works
[15:22] <hischild> ChaosTheory, it only moved the 2 folders out.
[15:22] <cchild> hischild, can i use truecrypt to encrypt and active home directory?
[15:22] <someone> k koño decis?
[15:22] <someone> FRIKIS
[15:22] <ChaosTheory> hischild, oh.
[15:22] <hischild> cchild, you can't encrypt something active.
[15:22] <pihhan> LL00: i use at home 2000::/3 prefix, so i never needed that
[15:23] <someone> k frikis tio nose ni de k ablais
[15:23] <cchild> hischild, so it must all be formatted?
[15:23] <LL00> fe80::20c:29ff:fef7:662e%eth0
[15:23] <hischild> cchild, you can't format an active (is mounted) drive
[15:23] <LL00> you can use CIRD for the adress?
[15:24] <pihhan> LL00: dont know what CIRD means, sorry
[15:24] <LL00> the /bit
[15:24] <cdecarlo> Hello, I'm having problems with my vpn connection (pptp) clobbering my dns or something along those lines, is there any help out there for me?
[15:24] <cchild> hischild, no i understand i cant format active drive, i meant truecrypt must format a drive to encrypt it
[15:24] <hischild> cchild, yes
[15:25] <LL00> so now about ubuntu I need to get firewall for ipv6 for security?
[15:25] <pihhan> LL00: do you mean classless prefixes like ffe2::1/64? there are none others, but you dont need it for unicast packet, only for configuration
[15:25] <ChaosTheory> hischild, http://pastebin.com/d2c44d60c
[15:25] <LL00> yes
[15:25] <ChaosTheory> hischild, after I did that I ran "compile and install alsa-driver" again
[15:25] <LL00> thx pihhan for your help
[15:25] <LL00> I need to go now
[15:26] <ChaosTheory> hischild, after moving the directories.
[15:26] <pihhan> LL00: dont know, i consider good password in my ssh and no insecure services is enough yet
[15:26] <ChaosTheory> hischild, I mean folders. I don't know. -_-
[15:27] <hischild> ChaosTheory, folders and directories are basically the same ...
[15:27] <hischild> ChaosTheory, i'm sorry, but i'm lost then :(
[15:27] <alkizz> good morning.. I was hoping someone could help me with some networking questions... i have set a static IP (hardy) but after each system restart i have to run ifup.. everything works fine if I use dhcp or roaming
[15:27] <b1n42y> !ubotu compiz
[15:27] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[15:28] <balthazarguy> Hey guys.
[15:28] <manguy> where is the default mysql socket on ubuntu?
[15:28] <ChaosTheory> hischild, oh. =\
[15:28] <ChaosTheory> hischild, all three files are rc1.
[15:28] <balthazarguy> Can anyone tell me how to make the programs I run in wine 1024X768? Even when I start up just Wine itself it's set at a small resolution.
[15:28] <hischild> ChaosTheory, yes ... i've used the same files more then once and they succeed for me ...
[15:29] <pihhan> alkizz: check if your /etc/network/interfaces have auto eth0 (or replace eth0 for interface you want) in it and not commented out (no # before it).
[15:29] <pihhan> alkizz: if you have configured interface using gui, you might report it as bug on launchpad
[15:29] <genii> manguy: If you mean what port it operates on, normally 3306
[15:30] <alkizz> yea, i saw that bug a while bacl
[15:30] <alkizz> back
[15:30] <manguy> genii: i meant where is mysql.sock actually, can't seem to find it
[15:30] <manguy> though it would be /tmp/mysql.sock
[15:30] <alkizz> ok.. so do auto iface eth0 inet static
[15:30] <JPRuskin> Afternoon again, chaps, I've installed Ubuntu and attempted to install grub, but it failed due to an error of some kind. I've now fixed it to boot to ubuntu, however, it merely goes to grub for dos, which I don't entirely understand, so would anybody mind telling me if there's an easy way to fix said grub for dos so that it will load the install?
[15:30] <bod_> hey guys, me and my dad both use *buntu (me=ubuntu/he=kubuntu) and i was wondering how easy it would be to write a small lan chat program, something that just displays a dialog box on each machine that can be written to by both of us,.,. how hard is this? am i limited to a particular language? can i write it in bash or python for eg?
[15:30] <b1n42y> !ubotu window manager
[15:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about window manager - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:31] <ChaosTheory> hischild, I suppose I don't *need* sound. . . =P
[15:31] <hischild> ChaosTheory, if you can live without sound, then you're good
[15:31] <ChaosTheory> hischild, haha.
[15:32] <hischild> ChaosTheory, i for one can't live without sound ;-)
[15:32] <ChaosTheory> hischild, I have a disk that Linux can't mount.
[15:32] <hischild> ChaosTheory, what kind of disc?
[15:32] <navaburo_> bod_, do "nc -l -p 1234" on one machine, and do "nc NAMEOFFIRSTMACHINE 1234" on the other.
[15:32] <ChaosTheory> hischild, normally, I can't live without baroque. . .
[15:32] <ChaosTheory> hischild, I think "normally" still applies, but I have the classical music station on my cellphone. =P
[15:32] <ChaosTheory> hischild, it has books on it.
[15:32] <navaburo_> bod_, that is a command-line version of what you asked for. Try it!
[15:32] <bod_> navaburo_, ok, do you have time to explain things to me or a tuto somewhere i could follow? id like to fuly understand what im doing ;~)
[15:33] <navaburo_> Anyone: How can I reinstall my ipw3945 driver?
[15:33] <genii> manguy: Check for /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock
[15:33] <Lamego> bod_, man nc
[15:33] <alkizz> pihhan - Thank you.. off to test
[15:33] <bod_> kk ty
[15:33] <balle> how do i get my labtop with gutsy to play audio through the soundcard and minijack
[15:33] <manguy> genii: that was the one, thanks!!
[15:34] <navaburo_> bod_, man nc but also check out the README: http://www.vulnwatch.org/netcat/readment.txt
[15:34] <navaburo_> of course that one is for the NT version, but the commands are the same
[15:35] <bod_> navaburo_, Lamego, cheers guys ;~)
[15:35] <genii> manguy: np
[15:35] <balthazarguy> Can anyone tell me how to make the programs I run in wine 1024X768? Even when I start up just Wine itself it's set at a small resolution.
[15:35] <Lamego> !wine
[15:35] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[15:35] <navaburo_> bod_, and the best tutorial on what is actually going on can be found here: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1180.html
[15:35] <ChaosTheory> hischild: Invalid mount option when attempting to mount volume 'UDF Volume.'
[15:35] <hischild> ChaosTheory, what command do you use?
[15:36] <bod_> navaburo_, thanks again m8
[15:36] <ripplepay> I am trying to install wub, latest beta (8.04) and got hung up on "starting hardware abstraction layer hald" on reboot. Various messages about hits on ubuntu forum but I couldn't find anything that looked like an actual fix.
[15:36] <ChaosTheory> hischild, it just automatically tries to open up.
[15:36] <ripplepay> My plan now is to try installing other wubi versions, but each one takes like 3 hours to install.
[15:36] <hischild> ChaosTheory, type dmesg please to see what the error is.
[15:36] <ripplepay> any advice on which one to try next?
[15:36] <clutsy-ribbon> heya
[15:36] <Gilou> ripplepay> I have that problem too on a linux based install
[15:36] <Gilou> but please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy chat :p
[15:37] <ripplepay> I don't care what version I get
[15:37] <rio> is there a way to start an ssh server from the alternate cd and then go through the ncurses based setup remotely?
[15:37] <ChaosTheory> hischild, http://pastebin.com/d194c009c
[15:37] <MattzAtRapture> In the most monumental of Newb errors, I just typo'd away a 500gb HDD while trying to format a usb floppy disc. Can anyone confirm my fears that it's impossible to recover?
[15:37] <ripplepay> however I will ask there on the off chance someone knows.
[15:38] <clutsy-ribbon> when i tried to update with update manager my system crashed and I restarted I get this error message when I try and update: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[15:38] <clutsy-ribbon> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[15:38] <Lamego> rio, not sure, you could try to use one of the extra ttys to install openssh-server, after the network config phase
[15:38] <Gilou> MattzAtRapture> it's possible, but hard
[15:38] <Gilou> (you should make backups :))
[15:38] <Andycasss> How to create new mysql user?
[15:38] <Gilou> MattzAtRapture> it mainly depends on what you did
[15:38] <MattzAtRapture> it wasn't vital data
[15:38] <rio> Lamego: do you know which command will open the setup-dialog then?
[15:38] <Helix82> commie did u watch the video
[15:39] <hischild> ChaosTheory, i'm afraid i can't be much help ... maybe it's damaged or some other wierd file system ..
[15:39] <balle> i seem to be unable to open my pidgin messenger? it just runs startup and then dissapears,
[15:39] <ChaosTheory> hischild, oh, okay. =|
[15:39] <MattzAtRapture> though there's a few home movies on there that aren't stored anywhere else
[15:39] <ripplepay> Gilou: did you ever get install via wubi to work?
[15:39] <MattzAtRapture> hence i really want it back. any links or help would be greatly appreciated
[15:39] <navaburo_> MattzAtRapture, what file system? and what was the command you typed?
[15:39] <Gilou> ripplepay> yeah, on 7.10
[15:39] <clutsy-ribbon> anyone help me on how to get update manager to work?
[15:39] <MattzAtRapture> i used mke2fs
[15:39] <Gilou> (my father still hates me for that)
[15:39] <vbabiy-laptop> hey how would I downgrade a package in ubuntu
[15:39] <clutsy-ribbon> or at least reset it?
[15:40] <MattzAtRapture> which i think is the "Kill it all dead" command
[15:40] <Lamego> rio, no idead, check the running processes with ps
[15:40] <bod_> ok guys another question,.,. i have this command -- zenity --entry --text="What is your name?" -- how can i set the output this command gives into the variable $name   ??
[15:40] <somegoof> has anyone had problems with booting the ubuntu iso from the cd drive at startup when ubuntu is already installed?
[15:40] <Lamego> bod_, man zenity :P
[15:40] <ChaosTheory> "Invalid mount option when attempting to mount volume 'UDF Volume.'"
[15:40] <ChaosTheory> Can anyone help/>
[15:40] <ripplepay> Gilou: did I just work or did you have to tweak stuff?
[15:40] <mechanicalchris> can anyone recommend a video editor?
[15:40] <ripplepay> By work, I mean, you can log in...
[15:40] <bod_> Lamego, done, doesnt talk about pipeing output to variables
[15:40] <balle> i seem to be unable to open my pidgin messenger? it just runs startup and then dissapears,
[15:40] <ripplepay> not audiovideo playstation :)
[15:40] <MattzAtRapture> and it used to be a JFS type filesystem
[15:40] <Gilou> ripplepay> it just worked
[15:41] <ripplepay> I'll try 7.10.
[15:41] <bod_> balle, run from terminal to recieve error messaes
[15:41] <Gilou> mkfs won't necessarily erase all the data
[15:41] <Gilou> but recovering your data won't be easy
[15:41] <WCD> hi everybody
[15:41] <MattzAtRapture> if it
[15:41] <Lamego> bod_, you can grab the output of any command to a variable, abc=$(command)
[15:41] <MattzAtRapture> *if it's doable, I'll do it
[15:41] <MattzAtRapture> it's either recover it or death by firing squad
[15:41] <bod_> Lamego, ok, cool cheers, il have a go
[15:42] <Gilou> MattzAtRapture> good luck, but it's probably doable
[15:42] <MattzAtRapture> any pointers?
[15:42] <Lamego> bod_, and you should check $? for the return code, when cancel is selected
[15:42] <Gilou> not precisely... if you really are desparate, tell the cops you have some kiddie porn on it... they'll revive the data :)
[15:42] <Tarth> right now I'm here at college and have a broadband connection, but in about a month, I'll be going back home, where I have dial-up.  Is there any linux distro that keeps internet usage to a minimum?
[15:43] <balle> bod_: had to make a new account, but it worked thx
[15:43] <bod_> ;~)
[15:43] <Lamego> Tarth, internet usage has nothing to do with the distro, it has to do with the applicatiosn that you use
[15:43] <bod_> Lamego, the abc=$(command)   worked like a charm,. cheers
[15:43] <Lamego> bod_, you can use `command`, but I prefer the $(command), nicer to read :P
[15:44] <bod_> Lamego, true ;~)
[15:44] <MattzAtRapture> well i'll idle here for now while i search. if anyone has the knowhow to help, i'm composed entirely of ears
[15:44] <Tarth> ok, thanks Lamego
[15:45] <Raff7> hi.
[15:45] <ppd> hi. how can I access all command line arguments except the first one in bash?
[15:45] <endo> how can I change the resolution through the command propmt? its not working from the preferences menuy
[15:45] <Leetbumble> I was just wondering if anyone had an Nvidia system running SLI with multi monitors working and some details about # of monitors and difficulty
[15:46] <BenC> Anyone ever been able to get sms working with a built-in evdo card?
[15:46] <reaktae> Hi guys,
[15:47] <reaktae> Hi guys, how can I compile xorg from src on ubuntu? I tried googling and wikis but I still  have NO idea where to start....
[15:48] <IndyGunFreak> !twinview | Leetbumble
[15:48] <ubotu> Leetbumble: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[15:49] <reaktae> !xorg | reaktae
[15:49] <Lamego> reaktae, apt-get source x11-xorg is probably a good start
[15:49] <Lamego> erm, xserver-xorg
[15:49] <mechanicalchris> I plugged my DV video camera into the USB now where do I access it?
[15:49] <ripplepay> Gilou: I've been looking for wubi 7.10... not here http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=198355&package_id=234923 ... do you recall where you got it from, if it's not an official release?
[15:49] <kacee> Hi there, I've just upgrade from gutsy to hardy. Everything is fine and looking great but I cannot access websites with self signed ssl certificates with FF3 or Epiphany. I looked in the options in both browsers but couldn't find anything.
[15:49] <Devyll> hello. i try to send mail via php script using mail(); and the email doesn't arrive to the destination. I have every email in /var/mail/www-data .. but the emails are not leaving the machine. Can you please tell me what is the sendmail log file ? (/var/log/mail* is empty)
[15:49] <TappiSwiss> i got problems with xvid video files on ubuntu 7.10
[15:50] <Gilou> it was a beta ripplepay I think
[15:50] <ripplepay> ah
[15:50] <asmo> #join ubuntu_pl
[15:50] <TappiSwiss> vlc plays colors ok but the there is black box which is the size of the video
[15:50] <Gilou> anyway you should be able to use the iso you want with WUBI
[15:50] <ripplepay> it's in the minefield section. beh.
[15:50] <TappiSwiss> and another box which plays the vidfeo
[15:50] <Gilou> ah sorry
[15:50] <Gilou> 7.04
[15:50] <Gilou> that one
[15:50] <endo> how can I change the resolution through the command propmt? its not working from the preferences menuy
[15:50] <ripplepay> http://www.wubi-installer.org/devel/minefield/ alpha actually
[15:50] <evand> ripplepay: I encourage you to avoid using Wubi 7.10.
[15:50] <reaktae> Lamego: thanks, i'm on it...
[15:50] <dimitriy> what?
[15:50] <ripplepay> what the hell is diff  between alpha and beta anyway?
[15:51] <Lamego> !hardy | ripplepay
[15:51] <ubotu> ripplepay: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[15:51] <ripplepay> evand? would you propose alternative?
[15:51] <evand> ripplepay: use the 8.04 Beta wubi.
[15:51] <dimitriy> i am not understand you
[15:51] <ripplepay> evand: already tried. doesn't work.
[15:51] <dimitriy> kien es?
[15:51] <reaktae> Lamego: what do i do next though? sorry...
[15:51] <mtretin> Hey, I've got a puzzle here - hibernate works, well, it's functional, but when hibernating I must power down the computer manually? Any ideas?
[15:52] <c0ldfusion> I thought 8.04's release was delayed a few months?
[15:52] <ripplepay> stops on starting hardware abstraction layer hald during boot
[15:52] <evand> ripplepay: where does it fail?
[15:52] <IndyGunFreak> if you must use wubi, why not use 7.04?  my understanding is it works pretty wsell.
[15:52] <Lamego> reaktae, read an how to build from source generic tutorial :)
[15:52] <ripplepay> hm, I guess I'll try both.
[15:53] <Mobius> hia
[15:53] <ripplepay> 7.04 first since it's official.
[15:53] <IndyGunFreak> ripplepay: i have a friend who used it, it seemed to work pretty good for him
[15:53] <ripplepay> 7.10 since gilou claims it worked for him
[15:53] <pihhan> isnt 7.10 newer?
[15:53] <ripplepay> yeah but it's alpha on minefield
[15:53] <IndyGunFreak> pihhan: yes, but the 7.10 wubi installer is a mess
[15:54] <mechanicalchris> how do I access my peripheral hardware (camera)
[15:54] <crackerjackz> is there a #secureshell channel?
[15:54] <spiderfire> when did gutsy get updates last?
[15:54] <asmo> hi
[15:54] <IndyGunFreak> mechanicalchris: i guess it depends on the camera, mine i access just like an external hard drive
[15:54] <Mobius> iv gt a quick question, tryed google and forums but havent found anything
[15:54] <asmo> i need help with kiba dock and akamaru
[15:54] <ripplepay> downloading wubi 7.04.04, n knocking wood
[15:55] <mechanicalchris> IndyGunFreak: it automatically shows up when you plug the USB in?
[15:55] <asmo> cant get them together
[15:55] <Mobius> for the built in games, the ai settings are levels 1 to 3
[15:55] <evand> ripplepay: if it's failing for you somewhere, please file a bug at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug , explaining exactly what goes wrong in as much detail as you can.  If you don't report the bug, we wont know what the problem is or how to fix it.
[15:55] <IndyGunFreak> yup
[15:55] <crackerjackz> is there a channel for secure shell on this network?
[15:55] <Mobius> which is easyest/hardest?
[15:55] <mechanicalchris> where can I see if it did recognize it?
[15:55] <ripplepay> somebody already filed about hald hang on startup, but lots of discussion followed with little fix
[15:56] <mechanicalchris> IndyGunFreak: its a Sony. How do I get it to recognize it
[15:56] <happy-sufferer> My computer had Ubuntu 7.04 Gnome intially, but to get something working, I had to try out Xubuntu 8.04 Beta install. But now I have fixed the problem I faced and would like to remove Xubuntu completely. When I had Xubuntu 8.04 installed, I chose the "guided partitioning", wherein Xubuntu was put on a separate partition on the hard drive, without touching the Ubuntu 7.10 files.  How do I completely remove Xubuntu 8.04 and give back
[15:56] <nikrud> !puregnome | happy-sufferer
[15:56] <ubotu> happy-sufferer: If you want to remove all !KDE packages and have a default !Ubuntu system follow the instructions here << http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome >>
[15:56] <nikrud> happy-sufferer there's stuff there about xubuntu also iirc
[15:56] <endo> how can I change the resolution through the command propmt? its not working from the preferences menuy
[15:57] <happy-sufferer> nikrud, thanks!!!!!!!
[15:57] <IndyGunFreak> mechanicalchris: well, 1. there's a lot of sony cameras out there, 2nd  I told you that I just plugged mine in and it worked
[15:57] <bod_> Lamego, if i have set    name='My name is bod'        (it is not noted in the man page)  when trying     zenity --entry --text=echo $name    it prints 'echo $name' as the entry text not the contents of $name  ( i no contents of $name exist) how can i make it print the $name entry?
[15:57] <Lamego> --text=$name
[15:58] <Lamego> variables are translated before the command being executed
[15:58] <Troofy> !ftp
[15:58] <bod_> Lamego, om im an idiot, cheers dude
[15:58] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[15:58] <happy-sufferer> nikrud, will that puregnome instructions work ALSO for guided partioning installs, and not just for people who've installed KDE apps onto their gnome comp?
[15:58] <reaktae> !compile
[15:58] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[15:59] <bod_> !msgthebot
[15:59] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[15:59] <Troofy> what is the best ftp client??????????
[15:59] <nikrud> happy-sufferer yes, once an install has been don and another desktop added, you can remove the original desktop safely
[15:59] <bod_> !best
[15:59] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[16:00] <Lamego> reaktae, btw, why are you compiling X ?
[16:00] <happy-sufferer> nikrud, i don't want to remove the _original_ desktop (in my case "original desktop" is Ubuntu 7.10). Rather, I want to remove the _newer_ desktop (xubuntu 8.04).
[16:00] <Troofy> what is the most used ftp client ???????????
[16:00] <Tu13es> how do I change my wlan0_rename device in ifconfig to something with anothe rname?
[16:00]  * Gilou uses only lftp :p
[16:01] <Lamego> Troofy, there are no such stats, make your own choice
[16:01] <Troofy> bod_
[16:01] <bod_> yes?
[16:01] <nikrud> happy-sufferer desktops are gnome, kde, xfce. You can remove any safely, since they all use the same underlying packages
[16:02] <endo> how can I change the resolution through the command propmt? its not working from the preferences menuy
[16:02] <happy-sufferer> nikrud, i'm afraid there may be some miscommunication between us. I did _NOT_ just install xubuntu desktop. I instnalled Xubuntu desktop PLUS a xubunu PARTITION.
[16:02] <bod_> endo, google is your friend
[16:02] <nikrud> happy-sufferer what do you mean by an xubuntu partition? a partition is a partition, it's just a slice of the disk
[16:03] <endo> bod_: fin
[16:03] <endo> e
[16:03] <c0ldfusion> happy-sufferer: why don't you use gparted and remove the partition?
[16:03] <happy-sufferer> my question therefore is: how can i delete xubuntu desktop AND xubuntu partition?
[16:03] <happy-sufferer> c0ldfusion: is that the best way?
[16:03] <Lamego> if you delete a partition, you delete everything on it
[16:03] <bod_> happy-sufferer, probably the easiest way
[16:03] <IndyGunFreak> definitely the easiest way
[16:03] <c0ldfusion> gparted has a nice livecd
[16:04] <happy-sufferer> Lamego: perfect. so what's the official way of removing Xubuntu partition (and everything that Xubuntu 8.04 beta cd installed)?
[16:04] <IndyGunFreak> i like partedmagic, but both are good.
[16:04] <c0ldfusion> you can delete the partition and resize your old.
[16:04] <IndyGunFreak> partedmagic has a nicer GUI.
[16:04] <Lamego> happy-sufferer, deleting the partition ?
[16:04] <happy-sufferer> c0ldfusion: i'm a newbie
[16:04] <nikrud> happy-sufferer you mean, you want to completely do a fresh install then?
[16:04] <c0ldfusion> happy: me too
[16:04] <c0ldfusion> I never tried partedmagic
[16:04] <Lamego> happy-sufferer, if you are a newbie, you shouldn't install beta releases in the first place :P
[16:04] <happy-sufferer> Lamego: yes, i want to delete xubuntu partition/ xubunu desktop and have ubuntu have all my hard drive again (currently, they share something like 50 50.
[16:05] <bod_> endo, if your still having problems oole this phrase -- how to change screen res from terminal ubuntu -- its the second link down
[16:05] <splog> anyone know why my video on utube or google is like out of sync sort of like in the old days when you lost vertical sync except in this case the picture doesnt move up or down but a white line moves up thru the pic. Sound is OK
[16:05] <bod_> oole=google
[16:05] <c0ldfusion> happy; then you def want a partition editor
[16:05] <Lamego> happy-sufferer, grab an ubuntu live cd, run the partition editor, and zap
[16:05] <IndyGunFreak> happy-sufferer: how old is your ubuntu install?
[16:05] <endo> bod_: thank you brother
[16:05] <bod_> ;~)
[16:06] <happy-sufferer> nikrud, no, i do NOT want to do a fresh install. On my comp now, i have a Ubuntu 7.10 partition  and a Xubuntu 8.04 partition. I installed xubuntu 8.04 today, but now want to delete xubuntu partitiotn completely, so that all i'm left with is Ubuntu 7.10 only.
[16:06] <bod_> IndyGunFreak, happy-sufferer> Lamego: perfect. so what's the official way of removing Xubuntu partition (and everything that Xubuntu 8.04 beta cd installed)?
[16:06] <happy-sufferer> IndyGunFreak: my ubuntu install is maybe 4 months old
[16:06] <Lamego> happy-sufferer, how many times do we need to answer you ?
[16:06] <Who_> I want to install Ubuntu to an external USB disk on a Mac and then NOT install any bootloader. Is this possible?
[16:06] <happy-sufferer> Lamego: once
[16:06] <Lamego> happy-sufferer, so just scroll up, and read, tks
[16:06] <metbsd> does unbuntu or kunbutu have fusion?
[16:06] <bod_> Who_, yes
[16:06] <nikrud> happy-sufferer ok, you have two installs. the live cd as Lamego says will do the job. Delete the xubuntu install partition, and strech out the ubuntu one
[16:07] <bod_> metbsd, compiz-fusion ?
[16:07] <c0ldfusion> nikrud: and c0ldfusion ;)
[16:07] <Lamego> happy-sufferer, or, since you have a working 7.10 install, just boot from it, and delete the partition
[16:07] <reaktae> Lamego: mate I'm so lame - where does aptitude download the sources to ?
[16:07] <Adantan_Alex> hi im installing xubuntu on the alternative disc
[16:07] <Adantan_Alex> can i dual boot windows with it?
[16:07] <Lamego> reaktae, to the current directory
[16:07] <nikrud> c0ldfusion I always work reverse alphabetically ;)
[16:07] <c0ldfusion> lol
[16:07] <Who_> bod_: Is it as easy as it seems - get alternate install cd, boot from CDRom, just choose not to do the bootloader? Will I think be able to boot by holding alt at startup?
[16:08] <IndyGunFreak> Adantan_Alex: of course
[16:08] <Who_> Why is it different to installing on a pendrive and making it persistent?
[16:08] <clouder`grr> any ideas why I can $curl 74.125.47.147 but when I $curl www.google.com I get couldn't resolve host
[16:08] <Jaymac> clouder`grr: dns issue
[16:08] <bod_> Who_, if you have no boot loader (correct me if im wrong someone) you will not be able to dual boot, but normal 1 os boot is still psooible and easy
[16:08] <Lamego> clouder`grr, DNS not properly setup ?
[16:08] <Adantan_Alex> thanks
[16:08] <happy-sufferer> Lamego: yes, i prefer to not have to burn/waste another CD. ( 8-) ). So when I boot from my working 7.10 install, how do I delete 8.04 partition from within 7.10?
[16:08] <Adantan_Alex> im doing it now
[16:08] <magnetron> clouder`grr: can you ping www.google.com?
[16:08] <Andycasss> Ive installed phpmyadmin but i cant access it from my apache2 server? I used apache2 option when i installed it
[16:09] <Lamego> happy-sufferer, System -> Admin -> Partion Editor (or something like that :P)
[16:09] <Lamego> i am not on ubuntu right now
[16:09] <neverblue> morning
[16:09] <magnetron> happy-sufferer: you need to use "gparted"
[16:09] <happy-sufferer> Lamego: oh, I don't remember seening Partition editor from within Ubuntu 7.10. But if you say it's there, I guess it is there.
[16:09] <clouder`grr> magnetron: no same deal
[16:09] <Lamego> if it is not, you need to install gparted
[16:09] <Who_> bod_: Macs use EFI - I believe (though I haven't checked - I know in the OpenFirmware PowerPC Days it worked) you could boot from any disk by holding alt whie booting and then selecting the volume
[16:09] <Lamego> from synaptic
[16:09] <IndyGunFreak> happy-sufferer: its only there if youv'e insalled gparted
[16:09] <happy-sufferer> magnetron: and gparted is on Ubuntu 7.10?
[16:09] <magnetron> clouder`grr: then it's DNS problems for sure
[16:09] <clouder`grr> dns means I should look where?
[16:09] <happy-sufferer> IndyGunFreak: i understnad now
[16:10] <magnetron> happy-sufferer: maybe you need to install it yourself with synaptic
[16:10] <happy-sufferer> ok. I'll go back to 7.10 now and install gparted.
[16:10] <Lamego> also, you should update-grub to point to your menu.lst
[16:10] <happy-sufferer> thanks friends
[16:10] <bod_> Who_, you can use the bios's hard drive os loader yes, but if there is 2 os's on 1 hard drive i think there may be problems
[16:10] <Lamego> after removing the partition, run sudo update-grub
[16:10] <magnetron> clouder`grr: in your network settings?
[16:10] <c0ldfusion> nice command thanks Lamego!
[16:10] <Andycasss> Ive installed phpmyadmin but i cant access it from my apache2 server (localhost/phpmyadmin)? I used apache2 option when i installed deb
[16:10] <Adantan_Alex> so how do i make a partition?
[16:10] <Adantan_Alex> !dual boot
[16:10] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[16:10] <Who_> bod_:  - or anyone else.... do you know if the Ubuntu bootloader plays nicely with Macs? Without BootCamp, that is
[16:10] <Klavier> hi i installed libnet6-1.3-0 and libnet1 package but i got this error when i tried to configure for ettercap
[16:10] <Klavier> configure: error: libnet >= 1.1.2.1 not found
[16:11] <Lamego> Andycasss, have you installed it from the repositories ?
[16:11] <bod_> Who_, i dont understand your problem,.,. are you plannin on havin no boat loader? or a mac boot loader?
[16:11] <happy-sufferer> oh, wait. one more question before i reboot. Do i have to somehow UNMOUNT xubuntu 8.04 first? If so, how?
[16:11] <Andycasss> Lamego: yes
[16:11] <Who_> bod_: I don't want to mess at all with the mac bootloader.
[16:11] <sunbird> will i get much in the way of energy savings by keeping bluetooth turned off when i'm not using it? or does most of the consumption come from active devices?
[16:11] <MattzAtRapture> Is there a particular god of Ubuntu I can pray to for assistance while i try to bring back my data?
[16:11] <Gringo_> will FF3 be in the final Hardy release?
[16:12] <rrittenhouse> Does anybody know if the Intel 3100 integrated graphics card works with hardy with compiz
[16:12] <bod_> Who_, then install ubuntu first
[16:12] <Pici> Gringo_: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[16:12] <Who_> bod_: I'm not willing to tank all of Mac OS and everything I've installed :)
[16:12] <bod_> Who_, or choose not to install grub -- but you'll stil have to update your other boot loader to boot ubuntu
[16:12] <Lamego> !hardy | Gringo_
[16:12] <ubotu> Gringo_: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[16:12] <Who_> bod_: yea - that last option seems right :)
[16:12] <magnetron> rrittenhouse: no, not with video support
[16:12] <Acxty> Hi guys. I have a pci serial card. The problem that it is not detected. I have the windows drivers, I already try modprobe parport_serial but still nothing, is there something else I can do? It have 1 parallel and 2 serial ports
[16:12] <bod_> Who_, then you need the boot lines that grub 'would' use then add them to ur boot loader list
[16:13] <Adantan_Alex> ok so i make a partition by taking some memory off the hard drive?
[16:13] <bod_> Gringo_, well the beta is in the beta
[16:13] <Who_> bod_: or methinks I could install GRUB to a different partition from the main one for Mac OS?
[16:13] <bod_> Adantan_Alex, some disk space - and your not takin it your usin it but in essence ,. yeah ;~)
[16:13] <Who_> bod_: then I can use EFI's fun trick to boot from any disk (like changing the first boot device in Bios)
[16:13] <Klavier> hi i installed libnet6-1.3-0 and libnet1 package but i got this error when i tried to configure for ettercap
[16:14] <Adantan_Alex> yeah u know ^^
[16:14] <Klavier> configure: error: libnet >= 1.1.2.1 not found
[16:14] <recon> is there any way to force ubuntu to output in mono?
[16:14] <Adantan_Alex> and the new partition will be called free space?
[16:14] <rrittenhouse> magnetron, Do you know if there are plans of compiz working with it? If not does the video at least work? :-D i want to get one
[16:14] <rrittenhouse> well its a dell m1330
[16:14] <Who_> recon: there is a way to do it with Compiz, I believe. What hardware ore you on?
[16:14] <Adantan_Alex> they should make video tutorials.... im going on you tube XD
[16:14] <bod_> Who_, im so confused,. you want a boot loader that can be overidden by bios boot device but you dont want to edit the files and you dnt want the ubuntu boot loader,. ?
[16:14] <recon> Who_: a very, very small client.
[16:14] <ekom> is there anyway to use a tablet pc to write in open office applications?
[16:15] <recon> Who_: that i _may_ be able to enable compiz on, but it'd slow the video framerate to less than one.
[16:15] <magnetron> rrittenhouse: the drivers for that intel card are not ready yet. either you run compiz, or you run video in 2D
[16:15] <rrittenhouse> magnetron, well at lest regular video works :P
[16:15] <rrittenhouse> thanks
[16:16] <clouder`grr> thanks, I added nameserver 192.168.2.1 to resolv.conf and it worked.  Wonder why it just stopped working from one day to next
[16:16] <recon> Who_: i'm on gutsy, and yeah, can't enable desktop effects.
[16:16] <Who_> bod_: close... I guess the easiest way to explain is this: Image I don't want to TOUCH the current hard disk - but I don want to be able to boot Ubuntu - I have a USB2.0 external disk, and I want to use that for Ubuntu. Mac's bioses support booting from any disk plugged in at start up, so I don't think I need GRUB on the hard disk that boots by default. From what you've said I think I will need GRUB SOmewhere, but not on the main  disk
[16:16] <Lamego> clouder`grr, if you are using DHCP, your resolve.conf will be overwritten
[16:16] <bod_> clouder`grr, woot thats my router addi ;~)
[16:17] <Lamego> Who_, you will need grub on the target disk
[16:17] <Lamego> to load the linux kernel
[16:17] <Who_> recon: well, using a specific theme you can certainly have black and white UI elements, but content in pages - like HTML or videos won't necessaryily be b&w
[16:17] <bod_> Who_, take out the mac hard drive, attatch the usb, install ubuntu, put the mac hard drive back in, then use a device loader to load either usb drive or hard drive for whichever os
[16:17] <Who_> Lamego: Target = the one I'm installing Ubuntu on - right
[16:17] <recon> Who_: what? i meant mono as in audio.
[16:18] <Lamego> yes
[16:18] <xpoint> clouder`grr, might be that local dhcp server does not announce 192.168.2.1 as dns server any longer
[16:18] <Who_> bod_: I will do something like that but that doesn't involve any unsrewing (warrantys are nice ;)
[16:18] <bod_> Who_, removin a hard drive doesnt void any warrenies afaik
[16:18] <bod_> warrenties
[16:19] <Who_> bod_: I think I need to undo a 'void warranty' stickered screw to get far enough. Perhaps not
[16:19] <bod_> Who_, or just disconnect the ide/sata cable from the hard drive (no screws)
[16:19] <Jaymac> bod_: breaking the sticker on a case does often void a warranty though :)
[16:19] <Who_> bod_: did I say it is a laptop? It is :)
[16:20] <bod_> Who_, erm,. tmk you cant penalise someone for having a bier hard drive, so they cant put changing hard drive under warrenty void
[16:20] <Who_> bod_: Is there any reason you think it is necessary?
[16:20] <TnS|Acu> Hello everyone. I've got a problem kind of weird with my mouse... When I move it, the pointer instead of going smoothly from point A to point B, makes 2 or 3 intermediate jumps... It feels like its lagging... I actually don't think it depends on the device itself since I’ve already tried a few and all behaved erratically... Anybody has a clue about what it could be and/or have experienced anything similar ?? Please let me know ^^ Thx a lot!!
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[16:20] <Who_> bod_: cool - I will check google. It just seems slighly more effort than is necessary...
[16:20] <bod_> Who_, what is necessary?
[16:21] <Who_> bod_: unplugging the main hard disk - I have installed Ubuntu enough times not to accienly format the wrong disk :)
[16:21] <bod_> Who_, takin out 2 screws = 10-20 seconds, googlin,.,. *stares at watch*
[16:22] <bod_> Who_, its not a case of accidental formatting its that you have to trick grub into thinkin there is no other os
[16:22] <Who_> bod_: Can you not specify the disk to install to anymore? And I don't mind if GRUB sees other OSses - I can fix menu.list later -surely?
[16:23] <Who_> recon: Ohhh! I thought you meant colour!
[16:23] <bod_> Who_, yes u can fix menu.list (but u avoided that area when i mentioned it) yes u speify which disk, but rub checks all devices for other os's then adds it to its menu'list and makes itself the primary boot loader
[16:23] <bod_> rub=grub
[16:23] <recon> Who_: anyway, never mind. i used alsamixer to mute the master and max out the master mono
[16:24] <recon> Who_: which didn't work.
[16:24] <Who_> bod_: that all sounds fine then - because If it is on a USB disk EFI will just revert back to OS X when it isn't plugged in
[16:25] <Who_> recon: Audio is not my strong point so I don't know if I can help - sorry
[16:25] <cchild> can i backup my current installation to an ext3 drive, encrypt my main partition and re-copy the file back to the drive?
[16:26] <bod_> Who_, easiest solution = remove mac hard disk then install ubuntu then plu mac disk back in (1 hour tops)
[16:26] <Adantan_Alex> i need some help
[16:26] <PriceChild> cchild: I'd suggest using /msg ubotu clone, and only copy back things in your /home folder
[16:26] <Adantan_Alex> do i need a partition called free space?
[16:26] <dalek_> just got my M1530. :D
[16:26] <Adantan_Alex> :)
[16:26] <Dr_future> guys, I'm a Linux new corner
[16:26] <Adantan_Alex> ok
[16:26] <PriceChild> Adantan_Alex: that's not a partition, that's just free space
[16:27] <Adantan_Alex> ok so what do i need to do to dual boot?
[16:27] <Who_> bod_: thanks. like I say - will certainly do that unless I encounter any stickers warning me I will void y warranty if I unscrew any further. I know RAM change is allowed, so HDD might well be to :)
[16:27] <Dr_future> I know that if the one wants to search for new software, he could use synaptic
[16:27] <PriceChild> !dualboot | Adantan_Alex
[16:27] <ubotu> Adantan_Alex: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[16:27] <Dr_future> but when I search for something, nothing appear
[16:27] <Dr_future> why?
[16:27] <Adantan_Alex> look i read it but its better if someone asks
[16:27] <Adantan_Alex> if someone tells me*
[16:27] <kriel> How would i verify if this comp has rw access to NTFS?
[16:27] <dalek_> I created a 50g partition in Vista, rebooted with my ubuntu 7.1 cd and I'm getting Buffer I/O error on device sr0. logical block ...... over and over. any ideas guys?
[16:27] <cchild> PriceChild, i am a bit lost about how to go about encrypting the entire system
[16:27] <c0ldfusion> Adantan_Alex: its a lot to say in this chat room
[16:27] <c0ldfusion> *for
[16:28] <Adantan_Alex> private chat?
[16:28] <Adantan_Alex> dang i got to register.... how do i do that? lol
[16:28] <PriceChild> cchild: the alternate install cd will let you do that pretty easily
[16:28] <dalek_> SquashFS error, sb-bread failed reading block
[16:28] <recon> geh, googling how to get mono audio is almost useless due to a certain project of the same name.
[16:28] <c0ldfusion> Adantan_Alex: it's not really complicated; did you try yet?
[16:28] <Dr_future> guys, how to use synaptic package manager?
[16:28] <Adantan_Alex> yes but i didnt under stand
[16:28] <dgjones> !register > Adantan_Alex
[16:28] <marx2k> Adantan_Alex: there's a url that goes with that
[16:28] <Adantan_Alex> so im doing it on my other computer as a test
[16:28] <Who_> recon: prehaps ad -.net
[16:28] <ekom> is there anyway to use a tablet pc to write in open office applications?
[16:29] <recon> meh, i'll just use ESD.
[16:29] <Lamego> Dr_future, you just run it, and select the packages to install/remove
[16:29] <Who_> ekom: things like XStroke
[16:29] <Dr_future> Lamego : it searches the internet right?
[16:29] <cchild> PriceChild, let me confess i am openSUSE and the support forum is a bit ...well.  so this is really for encrypting a suse installation
[16:29] <Lamego> Dr_future, yes, if you have the repositories enabled
[16:29] <Lamego> !repos
[16:29] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[16:29] <PriceChild> cchild: I suggest you go ask their support then.
[16:29] <dalek_> I gotta figure out what's cuasing these Buffer I/O erros on device sr0. what device is sr0. :P
[16:29] <Dr_future> how to enable this?
[16:29] <Who_> ekom: CellWriter a whle back
[16:30] <Adantan_Alex> lol
[16:30] <Lamego> i mean, not search, it will install from internet, the search is done on a local apps db
[16:30] <PriceChild> cchild: the way ubuntu will encrypt is not the same.
[16:30] <ango> sperger
[16:30] <dalek_> ahh thx, genii. I'll brun another one.  Using my other laptop right here with ubuntu, good stuff
[16:30] <Lamego> follow the ubotu links
[16:30] <MattzAtRapture> wish me luck guys...here goes nothing
[16:30] <genii> dalek_: Perhaps do the suggested md5 check of the cd iso image
[16:30] <tobberoth> Why is the ubuntu repositories lacking xfce-Terminal? :(
[16:30] <Troofy> i want to run windows with linux, (linux as host) but i want independant hardware control. like pci port , com port, usb port, and hardware like pci tv card. pci modem. or com modem usb tv card. etc. how can i have it?
[16:31] <Adantan_Alex> !register
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[16:31] <dalek_> I'm going to redl the image. I already burned it and deleted it. argh
[16:32] <Lamego> Troofy, you can't, not all hw can be bridged over emulation
[16:32] <Tomasso> does anyone know if proftpd under ubuntu makes use of unix user accounts? or do i need to configure myself for each user?
[16:32] <jadams_> how would I pipe wget to less?
[16:32] <Troofy> Lamego not all hw?
[16:32] <Lamego> not all
[16:32] <punzada> hwardware.
[16:32] <LjL> jadams_: wget .... -O - | less
[16:32] <Troofy> Lamego what can be don?
[16:32] <punzada> hardware*
[16:32] <Troofy> e
[16:32] <dalek_> They sent me the wrong Wirless-n card with this 1530. Supposed to have got the Intel one.
[16:32] <ZeroA4> Tomasso, you can have both ways...
[16:32] <Lamego> only the hw supported by the vm solution
[16:32] <dalek_> :\
[16:33] <Helix82> How to i enable 3D desktop in gusty... When i was using feisty i can see windows in layer... when i rotate my cube... how can i do it in gusty
[16:33] <Lamego> Troofy, what are yoy trying to achieve ?
[16:33] <jadams_> LjL, thanks a ton
[16:33] <dalek_> Helix, you talking about fusion compix?
[16:33] <Troofy> LadyNikon run my pci tv card.  and modem
[16:33] <invalidsyntax> i have no sound only when i turn the volume up and down it makes a scratching sound
[16:33] <genii> dalek_: For md5 checksum howto https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM  the md5 sums to compare against: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[16:34] <Troofy> Lamego run my pci tv card.  and modem
[16:34] <dalek_> thx genii, so run that after I dl it?
[16:34] <Helix82> i am now using compix
[16:34] <invalidsyntax> compiz rocks
[16:34] <Lamego> Troofy, you can't use an hw on a guess system that was not properly configured on the host system
[16:34] <linkinxp> Helix82,  pretty good hu@
[16:34] <Adantan_Alex> who can help with partitioning?
[16:34] <invalidsyntax> alex i can
[16:34] <egc> has anybody every noticed that their uppercase W's look funny?
[16:34] <Helix82> yup it good but some features in beryl in not there
[16:34] <Troofy> Lamego vmware gives usb support?
[16:34] <linkinxp> hey guys how i remote control my Windows PC ??? from ubuntu? VNC? Remote desktop ??
[16:35] <Helix82> or i can say i still havent find it
[16:35] <egc> in firefox, that is
[16:35] <Adantan_Alex> im resizing my hard drive partition
[16:35] <invalidsyntax> alex check your pm
[16:35] <Lamego> Troofy, vmware will not allow you to setup your PCI devices
[16:35] <linkinxp> Helix82,  did u install the advanced effects manager?
[16:36] <Troofy> Lamego it does allows usb?
[16:36] <Helix82> yes i have it installed
 i can help check pm
[16:36] <genii> dalek_: Yes, example of how to check the md5 sum on first link, the actual md5 hashes you should get if te image is good on the second link there
[16:36] <Helix82> i can rotate my desktop
[16:36] <linkinxp> Helix82,  u can control the 3d option there
[16:36] <Lamego> Troofy, for supported usb devices, yes
[16:36] <dalek_> Rgr Genii, downloading the image again and I'll run the md5sum command and verify it's good this time. I hope my cdrom isn't broken. :|
[16:37] <Troofy> Lamego what do you mean supported usb devices?
[16:37] <Helix82> linkinxp, i cant find the 3d option
[16:37] <piksi> how come i always get "can't find modules.dep" when i build a vanilla kernel with make-kpkg and boot it (i built initrd inside it and all filesystem support is built-in and it boots ok) ?
[16:37] <TappiSwiss_> Ubuntu dissapeared from my network... i can see other computers from ubuntu but windows machines cant see ubuntu
[16:37] <recon69> is there a channel for Hardy Heron?
[16:37] <linkinxp> Helix82,  its under EFFECTS
[16:38] <linkinxp> Helix82,  3d windows
[16:38] <invalidsyntax> join #compiz for good compiz help :)
[16:38] <Lamego> Troofy, uff, getting to the final point, virtualization is not an option to use unconfigure/unsupported hw
[16:38] <dalek_> http://apcmag.com/how_to_dualboot_vista_with_linux_vista_installed_first.htm  Here's the tutorial I'm using to bual boot my M1530.  Seems straight forward and easy.  Look ok to you guys?
[16:38] <Helix82> linkinxp, i cant find bro
[16:38] <DRebellion> recon69, #ubuntu+1
[16:38] <Troofy> Lamego the hardware is configured in linux. but no driver.
[16:39] <recon69> join #ubuntu+1
[16:39] <recon69> opps
[16:39] <linkinxp> dalek_,  u dont need to shrink it ubuntu do it for u
[16:39] <dalek_> I already did, it doesn't really matter does it?
[16:39] <linkinxp> Helix82,  join #compiz-fuzion
[16:40] <linkinxp> dalek_,  nop
[16:40] <linkinxp> dalek_,  now boot from the cd or run u livecd and install it in that partition (FREE space)
[16:40] <dalek_> yeah I booted the cd and got a bunch of I/O errors
[16:40] <dalek_> I'm redling the image to do a md5 check and reburn it
[16:41] <linkinxp> dalek_, notice the  option Guide install in the next continous free space
[16:41] <tonyyarusso> Is 'screen' installed by default?  (I can never remember if I've installed it or if it came that way.)
[16:41] <linkinxp> dalek_,  hoo idk about that
[16:41] <Lamego> tonyyarusso, it doesn't come installed by default
[16:41] <linkinxp> dalek_,  ok
[16:41] <Helix82> linkinxp, i have joined but nobody is there
[16:41] <linkinxp> Helix82,  wait
[16:41] <tonyyarusso> Lamego: okay, thanks.
[16:41] <age6racer> hi all, I have a really annoying issue. gnome-keyring doesnt seem to work. I got locked out of my wlan earlier and followed instructions to delete the default.keyring. unfortunately it hasnt been recreated and now when I try to log into my network it just keeps throwing the password entry box back at me.
[16:42] <age6racer> I assume becuase gnome-keyring isn't saving it?
[16:42] <linkinxp> Helix82,  my bad #compiz-fusion
[16:42] <Helix82> thanks
[16:42] <mernil> hello linux-gaycommunity de luxe! :-P
[16:42] <dalek_> 200 KB/sec oh the agony
[16:42] <jadams_> dalek_, I get 1.2MB/s at my house
[16:42] <jadams_> only 800KB/s at the office
[16:42] <Troofy> i want to run windows with linux. linux as host. what are ways i can get usb, com, pci port support and the hardware attached to those ports. for windows?
[16:43] <vin> hi everyone
[16:43] <dalek_> jadams, damn you. :)
[16:43] <JPRuskin> I get 60kb/s
[16:43] <mernil> fucking gay community here with them asshole ubunty cock suckers.. ;-)
[16:43] <jadams_> dalek_, it's only $70 USD/month for my home connection
[16:43] <JPRuskin> it's nice
[16:43] <dalek_> I'm on the other side of my house on wireless. could be why, usually gigenet is very fast
[16:43] <Lamego> !ops | mernil
[16:43] <ubotu> mernil: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpatrick or jussi01!
[16:44] <bazhang> mernil: stop
[16:44] <adrock358> distrojockey, are you there?
[16:44] <age6racer> please someone gimme a hand with gnome-keyring...
[16:44] <dalek_> I look forward to running my simulators to see what this M1530 can do compared to my POS m70
[16:44] <reaktae> when compiling xserver I keep getting this (please note that I DO have pixman installed) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62038/
[16:44] <vin> anyone know what is this error msg?  acetoneiso2: symbol lookup error: acetoneiso2: undefined symbol: _ZN9QListData7detach2Ev
[16:45] <Lamego> reaktae, apt-get builddep xorg-xserver
[16:45] <Lamego> to install the build dependencies
[16:45] <tobberot1> Is it true that ncurses which comes with ubuntu is compiled without support for utf8??
[16:45] <adrock358> Can I ask someone a question?
[16:45] <reaktae> Lamego: apt-get builddep xorg-xserver
[16:46] <Lamego> !anyone | adrock358
[16:46] <ubotu> adrock358: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[16:46] <recon69> vin: well, it means that acetoneiso2 is trying to use a function in a lib that is not there, check that all your dependencies of acetoneiso are at the correct version
[16:47] <Lamego> vin, probably you are using a binary which was compiled with a different lib version, eg. for other distro
[16:48] <adrock358> I had vista / ubuntu dual boot, and i expanded my partition in vista (without backing up).  for some reason after, I couldn't boot my system.  I tried hiren, and all sorts of mbr tools, and have resorted to grabbing the data, and reinstalling both os's.  Right now I'm on Ubuntu Live CD, and I have mounted my partition from vista.  I could move the info from it to a secondary hd, but that is kind of a pain in @#$!  So, I am wondering, with my existing part
[16:48] <adrock358> I mean i have two paritions, one that has a dead vista, and the other which is free space
[16:49] <Killab33z> how big is ubuntu?
[16:49] <bazhang> adrock358: you going to reinstall vista; if so might want to do that first
[16:49] <c0ldfusion> adrock358: do you have grub installed?
[16:49] <PriceChild> Killab33z: 700mb install cds, leave about 2Gb absolute minimum for install (plus swap) and that includes office suite, graphics editing etc.
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[16:50] <MattzAtRapture> ok, new question. I have some superblock numbers now. Can these be used to restore a filesystem?
[16:50] <dalek_> switched servers, 1500 KB/sec from georgia tech. :)
[16:50] <Killab33z> Pricechild: how many cds?
[16:50] <dalek_> 8 misn remaining. muwhahahaha
[16:50] <PriceChild> Killab33z: one
[16:50] <adrock358> bazhang.  yeah, you're right but I think I want to try it this way first.  then I can just move the data over in one fell swoop.  Is that possible though?  I might not reinstall Vista I'm thinking.
[16:51] <adrock358> c0ldfusion.  No.
[16:51] <PriceChild> Killab33z: there are different types though, the desktop installs via a live session, the alternate by text, the server install cd has no gui apps, but more server technologies on
[16:51] <reaktae> Lamego: sorry... I get "E: Invalid operation buildep"
[16:51] <c0ldfusion> adrock358: I missed the initial problem. PM me
[16:51] <Lamego> reaktae, , build-dep
[16:51] <bazhang> adrock358: move the data to where? how much we talking
[16:52] <tobberot1> Does anyone know how to change locale in xterm into latin1?
[16:52] <reaktae> Lamego: thanks...
[16:52] <gilster32> hello.
[16:52] <adrock358> C0oldfusion.  what I am trying to do is...leave my dead existing vista parition, then reinstall ubuntu on my other partition, then swap the info.  But the other partition won't show up in the ubuntu instasller partitioner thing.
[16:52] <Woxdee> Could anyone kindly recommend what I should use if I want to set up an e-library?  It will server a substantial number of files and I'd prefer it with a web interface with indexing, search and such relevant capabilities.  An Apache mod or something?
[16:52] <Woxdee> er, 'will serve'
[16:52] <adrock358> c0ldfusion. what I am trying to do is...leave my dead existing vista parition, then reinstall ubuntu on my other partition, then swap the info.  But the other partition won't show up in the ubuntu instasller partitioner thing.
[16:53] <c0ldfusion> adrock358: well you only have one partition
[16:53] <c0ldfusion> adrock358: so install ubuntu using the largest continuous free space
[16:53] <gilster32> i asked before a while back with no luck and wanted to try again. I am trying to find some simple GUI interface to format DVD-RAM discs. or maybe even integrate it into K3b or brasero, anyone?>
[16:53] <adrock358> bazhang.  50 gigs.  to the ubuntu os's parition.  from the vista partition.
[16:53] <Lamego> Woxdee, you will need some doc management system, not an apache module :)
[16:54] <Woxdee> Hmm, doc management system.
[16:54] <dalek_> adrock, I'm doing the same thing as you
[16:54] <adrock358> c0olfusion.  what do you mean?  i have two partitions.  One that has vista, and one that has been formatted.
[16:54] <marx2k> Whats the typical size you guys give to /root (versus /home)
[16:54] <dalek_> I put 50 gigs for ubuntu too with vista disk management tool
[16:54] <Woxdee> I'm not new to Linux, but as for Apache and webservers I'm 98% green.
[16:54] <adrock358> c0ldfusion. what do you mean?  i have two partitions.  One that has vista, and one that has been formatted.
[16:54] <Adantan_Alex> adrock358: free space isnt a partition thats the ammount of space u want ubuntu to have
[16:54] <reaktae> Lamego: I still get that "E: Invalid operation buildep". I'm 100% sure that I have that installed though... would a reboot help? i know - dumb...
[16:54] <CShadowRun> is there anything like a perform on start for ubuntu (Preferably before login, need to run xmodmap for the keyboard layout.)?
[16:54] <c0ldfusion> adrock358: formatted as what? The easiest thing to do is delete that second partition
[16:54] <Keigo-kun> I need help fixing ncurses so UTF8 works in it
[16:54] <Woxdee> Lamego: But a doc management system would perform all the required functions?
[16:54] <c0ldfusion> adrock358: and then install using the largest continuous free space
[16:55] <bazhang> adrock358: yeah just listen to c0ldfusion and choose largest contiguous free space for the install then try to move the stuff over
[16:55] <Lamego> reaktae, if it says "buildep", you made a typo, it should be build-dep
[16:55] <shameless> hey, i'm going to reinstall windows on my comp, but i can't remember if it's on partition 1 or not. i've only got one hdd, and i know windows is on the sda1, but i can't remember if that's the first. any easy way to check to see what's on what partition?
[16:55] <adrock358> c0oldfusion.  ahh, you mean delete the other partition, and then it will show up as free space in the installer?
[16:55] <marx2k> CShadowRun: check out your /etc/rc#.d directories (# being 0 through 6)
[16:55] <MattzAtRapture> I accidentally reformatted a partition and am trying to recover it. I have a set of superblocks, can they be used with fsck to recover my lost partition?
[16:55] <Lamego> Woxdee, that is the purpose of a doc management system, you need to search for one with all the functions you require
[16:55] <bazhang> xserver-xorg not xorg-xserver right?
[16:56] <CShadowRun> marx2k ok
[16:56] <adrock358> c0ldfusion, pls. read prv. post
[16:56] <c0ldfusion> adrock358: you choose the option before you view any partitions; you just have to trust it ;)
[16:56] <reaktae> Lamego: no... i got that right but when i try to ./configure the xserver-xorg it still gives me that http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62038/
[16:56] <Woxdee> Lamego: Thanks, that suggestion is really helpful.
[16:56] <vin> ty everyone, cyaz :)
[16:56] <Adantan_Alex> bye
[16:56] <Adantan_Alex> ok
[16:56] <Adantan_Alex> hi
[16:56] <Adantan_Alex> ok
[16:56] <FloodBot1> Adantan_Alex: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:56] <dalek_> 1.3 mins, come on ubuntu baby
[16:56] <Lamego> Woxdee, did the build-dep ran succesfuuly ?
[16:56] <Adantan_Alex> me its taking longer dude....
[16:56] <adrock358> c0oldfusion.  but it has to say the correct size right, because my vista part is 250gb and the unused space is 50gb.
[16:57] <Lamego> ops, sorry, last msg was fir reaktae
[16:57] <Lamego> for
[16:57] <adrock358> c0ldfusion, pls read. prv. post
[16:57] <c0ldfusion> adrock358: I don't remember when it will tell you but you will confirm the size before you make any changes
[16:57] <Adantan_Alex> adrock358: i reccommend you have more space for windows vista
[16:57] <adrock358> ok.  i'll try it.  i'll be back.  thank you,
[16:57] <adrock358> see you.
[16:58] <Adantan_Alex> bye
[16:58] <bazhang> more than 250GB?
[16:58] <reaktae> Lamego: yes, it did... and it didn't even list the pixman... here's the whole thing... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62040/ .. could it be that i'm su -
[16:58] <Adantan_Alex> finally ^^
[16:58] <Adantan_Alex> its installing
[16:58] <bazhang> !enter | Adantan_Alex
[16:58] <ubotu> Adantan_Alex: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[16:58] <Woxdee> Lamego: erm.. build dep for what?
[16:58] <shameless> what's the easiest way to check to see what partition ubuntu's installed under?
[16:58] <Lamego> Woxdee, wrong msg for you :P ignore it
[16:58] <Woxdee> :p
[16:58] <Lamego> reaktae, apt-cache search libpixman
[16:58] <Adantan_Alex> shall i use space then :P
[16:59] <bazhang> Adantan_Alex: try a comma and keep it on one line thanks
[16:59] <dalek_> ok got the new image and md5sum checks out. time to burn it
[16:59] <Killab33z> everytime i try and install ubuntu i get a timer error
[16:59] <Killab33z> APIC
[16:59] <gilster32> once upon a time there were DVD-RAM discs. anyone use these in ubuntu?
[16:59] <reaktae> Lamego: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62042/
[16:59] <Killab33z> fedora installs fine, just ubuntu giving me the problem
[16:59] <Adantan_Alex> um no.... XD
[16:59] <shameless> fukkit, this is useless
[17:00] <reaktae> Lamego: I do have it right...?
[17:00] <bazhang> language shameless
[17:00] <Lamego> reaktae, sudo apt-get install libpixman-1-dev
[17:00] <MrBumblebee> YIFF IN HELL
[17:00] <Lamego> search is not only for installed packages
[17:00] <zsiavash> when i type  sudo do-release-upgrade to upgrade 7.04 server to 7.10 the message is "No new relese found"
[17:01] <dalek_> ok burning with k3b
[17:01] <Helix82> guys is there any recomended config for linuxMCE... i would like to install it in Feisty...
[17:01] <reaktae> Lamego: I see.... thanks again.... MAN, you've got this DOWN!
[17:01] <bazhang> Killab33z: try the noapic option in the boot parameter
[17:01] <Goose1984> when i plug a usb hard drive in ubuntu always opens the file browser and shows me the content of the hdd how do i stop ubuntu doing this
[17:02] <Lamego> reaktae, you can build a .deb package, using the "debuild" command, since you are using a .deb based source
[17:02] <Lamego> if you need to change configure options, check debian/rules
[17:03] <Killab33z> bazhang: tried that too
[17:03] <bazhang> Killab33z: how about the alternate cd; given that a shot yet
[17:03] <Sinnerman> i've got vmware server set up. if i create a VM on the partition housing my root filesystem, the VM works, however, if i create a VM on an ntfs partition on the same disk, it just will not run, anybody know why?
[17:03] <Klavier> [   19.636119] eth0: RealTek RTL8139 at 0xf883c000, 4c:00:10:71:e5:da, IRQ 21
[17:03] <Klavier> there is no any device link in /dev
[17:03] <bazhang> Sinnerman: what error do you get please specify
[17:03] <Klavier> directory
[17:03] <Killab33z> bazhang: never heard of alternate cd?
[17:04] <Klavier> like eth0 how can find eth0 path?
[17:04] <Who_> any wubi experts around?
[17:04] <MattzAtRapture> I accidentally reformatted a partition and am trying to recover it. I managed to recover a list of superblock locations from the HDD, can these be used to restore it to it's old stateor is my data gone forever
[17:04] <bazhang> Killab33z: that is the text based installer sometimes does it when the livecd chokes
[17:04] <Sinnerman> bazhang: i don't actually get any error message, instead of it displaying the POST, i just get a black screen for about a second or two.
[17:04] <Goose1984> when i plug a usb hard drive in ubuntu always opens the file browser and shows me the content of the hdd how do i stop ubuntu doing this
[17:04] <reaktae> Lamego: now i get this> Requested 'pixman-1 >= 0.9.5' but version of Pixman is 0.9.4. I already tried looking for it but once again... no idea :(
[17:05] <bazhang> Sinnerman: why on the root filesystem? my vm's are in my home dir
[17:05] <Who_> MattzAtRapture: a utility called testdisk is good
[17:05] <MattzAtRapture> yeah
[17:05] <MattzAtRapture> that's how i got the superblocks out
[17:05] <Sinnerman> bazhang: i think it has something to do with access rights, because if i create a VM with the exact same settings on the root filesystem within my home directory, it works fine; having said that, the files on the ntfs partition all belong to root:plugdev, and my current user belongs to plugdev.
[17:05] <bazhang> Sinnerman: sounds like a permissions issue to be honest
[17:05] <Killab33z> bazhang: got a link for the alternate cd?
[17:05] <bazhang> Killab33z: hang on a sec
[17:06] <Oli``> Is there a process for requesting a package is updated to its latest version?
[17:06] <Who_> MattzAtRapture: well, I can only direct you to their manual - don't know anymore - just used PhotRec the other day and it worked well.... sorry
[17:06] <nikrud> Goose1984 try, in the file manager, edit preferences, media tab, brows media when inserted
[17:06] <Sinnerman> bazhang: yes, it does, but i can't figure out why it wont work because the user belongs to the group that owns the files on the ntfs partition. :(
[17:06] <MattzAtRapture> ok then, i'lll keep plugging away with that app. thanks
[17:06] <Sinnerman> bazhang: and plugdev has full read/write/execute access.
[17:06] <MattzAtRapture> if you have any more ideas, i'll be idling
[17:06] <Survivorman> Killab33z, go to the download page
[17:06] <Survivorman> Killab33z, there is a check option to download a alternate option
[17:06] <Who_> MattzAtRapture: Just one thought: make a complete copy of the device using dd so if you modify anything now you still have an image
[17:06] <Stroganoff> how can i find out, which programs depend on a given package?
[17:07] <nikrud> Sinnerman is the ntfs partition noexec (not sure if it matters, but ...)
[17:07] <Survivorman> Killab33z, http://www.ubuntu.com/GetUbuntu/download
[17:07] <Sinnerman> bazhang: besides which, it makes no sense, as vmware creates the files on ntfs... so how come it won't access them to boot the VM?
[17:07] <MattzAtRapture> good plan, thanks
[17:07] <bazhang> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/gutsy/release/ Killab33z
[17:07] <Killab33z> bazhang: thanks
[17:07] <Sinnerman> nikrud: no it's not noexec.
[17:07] <Goose1984> nikrud: there is no media tab
[17:07] <Who_> MattzAtRapture:  in fact - when I was doing it with my camera card I made an image and ran photorec  _on the image_ and kept the card safe...
[17:08] <Lamego> reaktae, you are using the source from a newer xorg source for sure
[17:08] <MattzAtRapture> ah
[17:08] <nikrud> Goose1984 then try system->prefs->removable drives and media, look for something equivalent
[17:08] <Lamego> do you have the deb-src entries on souces.lst for your current ubuntu version?
[17:08] <reaktae> Stroganoff: i beleive apt-get build-dep would help you too.... :)
[17:08] <MattzAtRapture> hmm, this could be painful actually. the hdd in question was 500gb and i'm not entirely sure how much of it was occupied
[17:08] <methods> my computer just went crazy ! i can't boot to the desktop.... it says that the root file system is read only !!! the mount command says ..   (rw,errors=remoount-ro)  someone help !
[17:08] <noob-africa> hi all
[17:09] <MattzAtRapture> it was a sort've dumping ground for downloads before they were sorted and categorised
[17:09] <Lamego> reaktae, I hope you are not trying to build xorg7.3 for gutsy
[17:09] <Goose1984> got it thanks
[17:09] <noob-africa> does anyone know how i can listen to BBC on my ubuntu-station?
[17:09] <bazhang> methods: what happened that led to this
[17:09] <Who_> MattzAtRapture: eeek. dd doesn't care how much was occupied :S it does it all, bit by bit (as I understand)
[17:09] <MattzAtRapture> i'm praying it does, believe me :p
[17:09] <Who_> MattzAtRapture: Maybe walk away and make tea/Dinner/a three course meal with wine and cheese :P?
[17:09] <MattzAtRapture> ta for the help, back in a bit once the image is made
[17:10] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: www.isohunt.com
[17:10] <MattzAtRapture> i was thinking maybe discover a cancer cure :p
[17:10] <Adantan_Alex> ok
[17:10] <Who_> MattzAtRapture: I think I'll be gone - if the 2GB CF card I backed up is anything to go buy :P. Good luck!
[17:10] <Adantan_Alex> ok
[17:10] <MattzAtRapture> lol
[17:10] <noob-africa> jack_spratt: with what client?
[17:10] <methods> bazhang: onlyt hing i could think is that the updater froze... so i had to stop it ... but idk why that would cause it
[17:11] <reaktae> Lamego: ahhh...... yep... let me try this again... what xorg should i get? I'm on gutsy with xorg already installed but I need to compile it in order to install my touchscreen driver: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62045/
[17:11] <pac1> I'm seeing ^[[A when I hit the up arrow key instead of the previous line.  Is there something that turns off /etc/inputrc that I might be missing?
[17:11] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: which ever you prefer, I like azureus, but ktorrent is nice too, and there are plenty of others to choose from, but use IP filters as well
[17:11] <methods> bazhang:  is there no remount command so i cn remount my root as rw and then try to fix it from there ?
[17:11] <noob-africa> jack_spratt: u familiar with streamtuner?
[17:11] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: you might like www.mvgroup.org
[17:12] <Sinnerman> bazhang, nikrud: i copy the same files from ntfs to my home directory and vmware server works; well, the reason i have it on that partition is because i have some unused space there. :/ any suggestions?
[17:12] <Lamego> methods, remount it rw
[17:12] <evand> Who_: you have a wubi question?
[17:12] <methods> Lamego:  ther eis no remount command !
[17:13] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: nope
[17:13] <methods> my other box doesn't have a remount command either
[17:13] <Lamego> methods, mount -o remount,rw /
[17:14] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: mvgroup used to be good for BBC stuff (and all osrts of documentaries etc. and educational stuff)
[17:14] <kindofabuzz> sudo mount -a
[17:14] <methods> ok that worked
[17:14] <methods> it's not readonly anymore
[17:14] <noob-africa> jack_spratt: i am there but i dont see anything related to bbc
[17:14] <Who_> evand: Yes, I do: I have wubi seemingly swapping like mad for about four hours after the first time I have tried to boot into Xubuntu. I can see the heron BG but can't move the mouse or get to VT1 with ctrl+alt+F1 - both of those _could_ be driver/keymap issues though. I want to know what the kindest way to end it is, or whether I should keep hoping or leave it on. This is  a P2 300Mhz with 128mb ram.
[17:15] <dalek_> new download and fresnly burned cd worked. :_
[17:15] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: you logged in?
[17:15] <Pici> Who_: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[17:15] <kindofabuzz> Who_: install "screen", it's in your repos, that's how i got my vt's working
[17:15] <noob-africa> jack_spratt: that means i have to register first, right? let me do that then
[17:16] <Who_> Pici: thanks - didn't occur to me this was Ubuntu
[17:16] <Who_> +1 :)
[17:16] <methods> do you think it will be fine ?
[17:16] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: yes, its fairly quick and easy
[17:16] <MattzAtRapture> sweeet
[17:17] <MattzAtRapture> there is a backup image....oh thank god
[17:17] <dalek_> ugh the mousepad on my m1530 with ubuntu is crazy sensitive
[17:17] <MattzAtRapture> all's not lost!
[17:17] <Who_> Kindofbuzz: I would if I could get a terminal up :P
[17:17] <Adantan_Alex> lol
[17:17] <Adantan_Alex> ok
[17:17] <MattzAtRapture> thanks Who, now at least i don't have to sit here having an embolism about this
[17:17] <Who_> MattzAtRapture: cool - how did you recover it?
[17:17] <MattzAtRapture> haven't yet
[17:17] <evand> Who_: magic sysrq it.  alt print screen SUB
[17:17] <MattzAtRapture> but the image's size proves the files are still there
[17:18] <MattzAtRapture> meaning, they can be brought back, one way or another
[17:18] <evand> right, moving to #ubuntu+1
[17:18] <kqui> hey all, can i get any help about installing the ubuntu i have really big problem :/
[17:18] <Who_> evand: Shall I do full RSEIUB?
[17:18] <kindofabuzz> Who_: applications > accessories > terminal
[17:18] <Adantan_Alex> kqui: yes what is the problem?
[17:18] <MattzAtRapture> meaning i don't have to have my sysadmin hit me when he gets back from vacation ^^;
[17:18] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: registered yet?
[17:18] <MattzAtRapture> now...do i have enough disk space to do this is the question
[17:19] <noob-africa> jack_spratt: waiting for the administrator approval
[17:19] <dennda> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/37417/ <-- Why doesn't rsync do an incremental backup on second run? It downloads the same amount of data in both runs
[17:19] <Who_> MattzAtRapture: Perhaps - but just a word of enthusiasmwarning - on a 500Gb Hdd dd would give a 500Gb image even if the disk was all zeros. This is unlikely to be the case
[17:19] <happy-sufferer> i have 1 gig ram. is that good enough for ubuntu 8.04?
[17:19] <Adantan_Alex> kqui: yes?
[17:19] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: hmm ok, well there is a section of the forum just for bbc programs
[17:19] <MattzAtRapture> ah.... bummer
[17:19] <towolf> happy-sufferer: yes
[17:19] <Lamego> happy-sufferer, yes, but for hardy, go #ubuntu+1
[17:19] <kindofabuzz> happy-sufferer: yes
[17:19] <kindofabuzz> happy-sufferer: i have less
[17:19] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: with subsections for  horizon etc.
[17:19] <MattzAtRapture> i'm going to choose to believe these are my files
[17:19] <noob-africa> jack_spratt: is there an internal player or there is an app i have to sudo apt-get install?
[17:20] <dalek_> is a swap space during install highly recommended?
[17:20] <happy-sufferer> how can i find out my procesesor speed ( XXX ghz?)
[17:20] <MattzAtRapture> otherwise my head will explode in a messy fashion :p
[17:20] <kindofabuzz> happy-sufferer: install sysinfo
[17:20] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: you should already have the video apps installed to play stuff you get from there
[17:20] <kqui> can i talk with some @ pm ?
[17:20] <kindofabuzz> sudo apt-get install sysinfo
[17:20] <happy-sufferer> isn't there a quicker way to know?
[17:20] <typoe> happy try cat /proc/cpuinfo
[17:20] <Adantan_Alex> kqui: yes
[17:20] <kindofabuzz> or that
[17:20] <consolidatedbord> happy: grep Mhz /proc/cpuinfo
[17:21] <consolidatedbord> *MHz rather
[17:21] <happy-sufferer> 1000.000 cpu Mhz.... 1 Gigahertz and 1 Gig ram. wow
[17:21] <happy-sufferer>  AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3800+ is my model name
[17:21] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: so that should supply you with specific programs from bbc, especially educational
[17:21] <happy-sufferer> is that good enough for ubuntu 8.04?
[17:21] <kindofabuzz> happy-sufferer: want a cookie? =)
[17:21] <kindofabuzz> happy-sufferer: yes
[17:21] <Adantan_Alex> !register > kqui
 that's just fine
[17:21] <happy-sufferer> great
[17:21] <happy-sufferer> thanks
[17:21] <_Fallen> I tried this pinning thing to install certain hardy libs I require. Now when I want to install the lib, my libc wants to be upgraded. I fear that upgrading libc will break most other libc packages, is that probable?
[17:22] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: as for the iplayer itself, im really not sure, i just download them on torrents
[17:22] <happy-sufferer> no need to buy a new comp for a few more years, i guess
[17:22] <c0ldfusion> kindofabuzz lol
[17:22] <kindofabuzz> =)
[17:22] <typoe> no matter how fast it is you might wish it was faster some times.
[17:22] <noob-africa> jack_spratt: why didnt bbc's own player work from their browser? it only gave me two options, Windows Media Player (active) and Realplayer (ghosted)
[17:22] <happy-sufferer>  should i get the desktop cd or the alternate install CD?
[17:23] <MattzAtRapture> perhaps i should be looking into a method to see if the files are even still there at all
[17:23] <happy-sufferer> how can i decide
[17:23] <happy-sufferer> ?
[17:23] <noob-africa> i mean from their site
[17:23] <noob-africa> lol
[17:23] <kindofabuzz> happy-sufferer: intall should work with the desktop, if not that';s when you try the alternate
[17:23] <typoe> happy try the desktop cd first
[17:23] <Adantan_Alex> lol
[17:23] <happy-sufferer> typoe: ok. i just don't want unnecesary stuff installed
[17:24] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: because the BBC is dictated in what it does by large corporations, including software corps, and they do whatever they are told. Thus they use all proprietary formats when they can and only cater for the MS
[17:24] <jack_spratt> noob-africa :)
[17:24] <kindofabuzz> happy-sufferer: it's the exact same "stuff" wise
[17:24] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: their news online has been trying to kill and hide FOSS for years and years
[17:24] <Helix82> linkinxp, Thanks for your help...
[17:24] <Sinnerman> damn. guess not. :(
[17:24] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: try guardian.co.uk instead for better news
[17:24] <Helix82> linkinxp, i got wat i want...
[17:24] <noob-africa> windows sux big time!
[17:24] <kindofabuzz> !ot > jack_spratt
[17:25] <noob-africa> jack_spratt: they stream their content?
[17:25] <typoe> My system quit doing the auto mount of thumb drives even if I reboot.
[17:25] <jack_spratt> kindofabuzz: ?
[17:25] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: I believe so
[17:25] <kindofabuzz> !ot
[17:25] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[17:25] <kiuq> Adantan_Alex
[17:25] <kiuq> u can read my msg on pm ?
[17:25] <kindofabuzz> offtopic man, offtopic
[17:26] <jack_spratt> kindofabuzz: fair enough
[17:26] <amen51> hi, is there channel for command line discussion
[17:26] <fuhreal> How can I figure out whats using so much ram on my system?
[17:26] <c0ldfusion> amen51: #ubuntu-server
[17:26] <c0ldfusion> maybe
[17:26] <noob-africa> jack_spratt: i am in, but i dont see the forum for bbc... where is it?
[17:26] <amen51> thanks
[17:26] <kiuq> cableroy
[17:27] <Adantan_Alex> !program
[17:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about program - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:27] <espera> I'm running Ubuntu 7.10 through VMware Server Console on my windows XP laptop.  Sometimes when I open firefox (or any other application) the resolution is huge, while the desktop still appears normal.  How can I fix this?
[17:27] <Adantan_Alex> !dual boot
[17:27] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[17:27] <rahmen> Isn't alsamixer supposed to have a volume control for line-in? Do I need other drivers for this?
[17:27] <kiuq> Adantan_Alex
[17:27] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: on the main page when you log in you should see about 1/2 way down the page the bbc section
[17:27] <kiuq>  Adantan_Alex
[17:27] <Adantan_Alex> yes?
[17:27] <kiuq> u can read my msgs?
[17:27] <Adantan_Alex> no ur not registered
[17:27] <Adantan_Alex> !register > kiuq
[17:27] <Who_> MattzAtRapture: if you want me to see your messgaes it helps to add 'Who:' to the beginning of them - then I get warned you've spoken :)
[17:27] <kiuq> !register
[17:27] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[17:27] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: just says BBC Programmes
[17:27] <noob-africa> jack_spratt: but mvgroup is a forum, isnt it?
[17:28] <dalek_> anyone have ubuntu on the m1530
[17:28] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: its a forum with lots and lots of torrents
[17:28] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: :)
[17:28] <kiuq> k 1 sec
[17:28] <kiuq> i will register
[17:28] <Adantan_Alex> kk
[17:28] <espera> I'm running Ubuntu 7.10 through VMware Server Console on my windows XP laptop.  Sometimes when I open firefox (or any other application) the resolution is huge, while the desktop still appears normal.  How can I fix this?
[17:28] <noob-africa> jack_spratt: i didnt see the bbc link... can u give it to me pls?
[17:28] <Didas> I have a toshiba satellite a135 s4527 and running ubuntu 7.10, i am getting no audio, it doesnt seem to detect the sound card at all. ive checked around the forums, and googled the problem, and havent come up with anything useful. anyone got an idea or link? :)
[17:28] <jack_spratt> noob-africa try pasting http://forums.mvgroup.org/index.php?showforum=4 into a new window
[17:28] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: so long as you are logged in it may work
[17:29] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: the torrents are attached to the messages
[17:29] <espera> i have the same problem Didas
[17:29] <noob-africa> jack_spratt: The error returned was:
[17:29] <typoe> didas does your sound device show up on lspci output?
[17:29] <noob-africa> Sorry, the link that brought you to this page seems to be out of date or broken.
[17:29] <kiuq> how to register
[17:29] <kiuq> :O
[17:29] <Adantan_Alex> !dual boot
[17:29] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[17:29] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: i guess its because im logged into a different account or somthing
[17:29] <MattzAtRapture> Who: whoops, sorry. Forgot i'm not in a small community any more. Any ideas about recovering data from a JFS formatted drive? From what i've read it may be easier than most
[17:30] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: look, on the main page listing the forum sections it should be there - did you look properly?
[17:30] <Didas> typoe, it seems to show an audio device, yeah
[17:30] <noob-africa> or maybe because i am logged in and i havent received the admin's authorisation message, yet
[17:30] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: oh i thought you got authorised
[17:30] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: that'll probably be it
[17:31] <noob-africa> not yet, but somehow i am logged in...
[17:31] <kiuq> Adantan_Alex
[17:31] <kiuq> u can see now ?
[17:31] <noob-africa> the authorisation is taking longer than 10 mins
[17:31] <typoe> didas the line os lspic with the audio device should show a device make and model number, you can then search to see if it is supported
[17:31] <Pici> !offtopic | jack_spratt noob-africa
[17:31] <ubotu> jack_spratt noob-africa: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[17:31] <genii> Didas: Perhaps see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=423442
[17:31] <ba5e> compared to 7.10
[17:31] <Pici> !piracy
[17:31] <ubotu> piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[17:31] <Didas> typoe, i had sound working before i updated to 7.10
[17:32] <mlalkaka> Will the final release of Hardy Heron come with the final release of Firefox 3?
[17:32] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: re iplayer, it seems to need realplayer installed - like I said about BBC and proprietary software
[17:32] <Didas> typoe, i had to follow a guide on the forums to edit a file to get it to work last time, dont know where it is now.
[17:32] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: but ive read for some that with firefox 3 it just works (iplayer that is) but not with 2 for some reason
[17:33] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: so make sure realplayer is installed, and if that doesnt work try using FF3 instead of 2
[17:33] <noob-africa> am about to install realplayer
[17:33] <matti_> any idea of what to do, when i try to start NvTv I get an error like this: Fatal: No supported video card found.  I used the Envy installer to get the nvidia driver installed. any idea of how i can get it to "support" it? it works in XP
[17:33] <typoe> didas sorry you prolly need to find those intructions agin somewhere then, I dont know where other than trying various google searches or something
[17:34] <spiderfire> anyone done a custom livecd? is it supposed to say failed to read /proc, creating empty file?
[17:34] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: i stress that I dont endorse BBC, Realplayer, or proprietary software, and I dont use iplayer or BBC for those reasons, but if you want to thats your decision
[17:34] <Didas> typoe, ok, i will keep pluggin away at it, ty.
[17:34] <kiuq> Adantan_Alex u see my msgs on pm ?
[17:34] <typoe> didas good luck
[17:34] <noob-africa> jack_spratt: well, all i want to know is the update on zimbabwe
[17:34] <noob-africa> jack_spratt: bbc seems pretty well hooked up on the info abt zim
[17:34] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: must they be on video
[17:35] <kiuq> somebody can help me privately with installing the ubunto
[17:35] <genii> Didas: Perhaps see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=423442 also that machine has intel HDA sound, factoid !intelhda has info on tis particular issue
[17:35] <Didas> genii, i will check it out. :) ty
[17:35] <noob-africa> jack_spratt: the realplayer is a bin file... any ideas how i install it? am a noob, remember?
[17:35] <kiuq> somebody can help me privately with installing the ubunto
[17:35] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: well BBC gets nearly 100% of their news from agencies like reuters, so you could try them or similar
[17:35] <pira> hey
[17:35] <pira> hallo
[17:35] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: didnt you isntall it from the repos?
[17:36] <typoe> kiuq I can come over to your place if you pay my travel expenses
[17:36] <ipx_laptop> I have 2 drives: 1 IDE, 1 SATA. Both have GRUB installed on them, but I only want to boot from the SATA-drive and remove grub from the IDE drive. Is this possible?
[17:36] <psyxious> Hello everyone, I am a college CS major, and im looking for a bit of guidance
[17:36] <ipx_laptop> When I have both harddrives in, it boots from IDE. When I remove the IDE-drive and insert only SATA, it boots from SATA correctly
[17:36] <noob-africa> jack_spratt: no... i did a direct download with firefox... should i use sudo apt-get instal realplayer?
[17:37] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: try http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/apr/03/zimbabwe1 (video and more links on zimbabwe)
[17:37] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: dont you like using the gui? (synaptic/aptitute)
[17:37] <typoe> psyxious ask a question
[17:37] <jack_spratt> noob-africa:im not sure the exact package name so maybe better to just do it in synaptic
[17:37] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: (get descriptions etc.)
[17:37] <noob-africa> jack_spratt: what's the command line for terminal for installing real player from the repos?
[17:38] <ipx_laptop> noob-africa: u can search by typing sudo apt-cache search *searchterm*
[17:38] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: possibly same as you wrote but with an extra 'l' on install :)
[17:38] <terminal> when i trying to install sql through terminal igot error could not found package
[17:38] <kindofabuzz> there is no realplayer on the repos
[17:38] <typoe> terminal: try mysql maybe
[17:39] <Raybrig> Hello, would anyone who is good with lilo, like to spare me a minute please ? feel free to PM
[17:39] <psyxious> Yes. I have learnt so far, -C++, java, and dr scheme., basically i want to begin contributing to the ubuntu community
[17:39] <code_kill> hey room
[17:39] <psyxious> but i dont know where to begin
[17:39] <kindofabuzz> learnt?
[17:40] <noob-africa> jack_spratt: i have the realplayergold10.bin file downloaded... how do i install it?
[17:40] <typoe> psyxious step one: obtain a computer
[17:40] <terminal> typoe: igot d sam error
[17:40] <psyxious> pardon my english, im from puerto rico. Step 1. check
[17:40] <kindofabuzz> noob-africa: ./realplayergold10.bin
[17:40] <terminal> when i trying to install sql through terminal igot error could not found package
[17:40] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: well it should just run if it is correct for your OS, make it executabel by changing its properties (right click, permissions I think)
[17:41] <_Fallen> terminal: try mysql-server
[17:41] <balle> how do i get my labtop with gutsy to play audio through the soundcard and minijack
[17:41] <noob-africa> do i put it in its own folder?
[17:41] <noob-africa> i guess
[17:41] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: then just double click it, but its better to install from repos
[17:41] <kindofabuzz> jack_spratt: realplayer is not in the repos
[17:41] <typoe> psyxious download install file
[17:41] <bod_> noob-africa, if its the realpayer gold linux version its rubbish and ive never been able to get the windows version to play through wine,.,. but if you do manage it, let me know plz
[17:41] <Raybrig> Hello, would anyone who is good with lilo, like to spare me a minute please ? feel free to PM. Basically, i have a lilo.conf written which i have installed, and is the current "live" lilo on the boot drive, but when i reboot, it comes up with a kernel which i have not listed in the config at all.
[17:42] <jack_spratt> kindofabuzz: lol, ok, because its proprietary?
[17:42] <kindofabuzz> noob-africa: just use mplayer, covers almost anything
[17:42] <kindofabuzz> yeah
[17:42] <_Fallen> what happens if I install libc from hardy when having gutsy installed?
[17:42] <jack_spratt> kindofabuzz: not even in any of the other 'sections'?
[17:42] <psyxious> typoe: which? what do you mean?, i already have ubuntu running real nice
[17:42] <kindofabuzz> jack_spratt: i did a apt-cache search realplayer and nothing shows up
[17:42] <Pici> _Fallen: You have the potential to break every single application
[17:42] <code_kill> has anyone set up webcam for their system?
[17:42] <Pici> _Fallen: I highly reccomend NOT doing it.
[17:43] <typoe> psyxious oh, so where is your problem again?
[17:43] <jack_spratt> kindofabuzz: ok thanks ( im not running *buntu atm)
[17:43] <Pici> !webcam | code_kill
[17:43] <ubotu> code_kill: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[17:43] <balle> how do i get my labtop with gutsy to play audio through the soundcard and minijack
[17:43] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: did you manage to execute it?
[17:43] <kohwj> has kernel 2.6.22-14-generic been patched for vmsplice()?
[17:43] <_Fallen> Pici: thanks, thats what I wanted to hear. I need a new version of libcairo2, but thats only available in hardy :-/
[17:43] <dalek_> Anybody have a link to install the Dell Wireless n card with ubuntu
[17:43] <fuhreal_> when i use apt-get for fluxbox, why is it asking for the ubuntu cd instead of trying to use the repos?
[17:43] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: cant you find a .deb?
[17:43] <bod_> balle, i thought we got the soundcard working the other day?
[17:43] <code_kill> I just got spca5xx-source , installed just fine.
[17:43] <code_kill> but now what?
[17:43] <noob-africa> jack_spratt: no
[17:43] <code_kill> wondering how to get to camera.
[17:43] <noob-africa> kindofabuzz: how do i add the location (URL) for bbc on mplayer?
[17:44] <code_kill> maybe i should give it one more swoop
[17:44] <Adantan_Alex> !alternate
[17:44] <ubotu> The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[17:44] <kiuq> how my drivers can be NTFS AGAIN? i mean delete the ubuntu
[17:44] <kindofabuzz> noob-africa: i dunno
[17:44] <bod_> !msgthebot | Adantan_Alex
[17:44] <ubotu> Adantan_Alex: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[17:44] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: not sure, dont really use it, just look around the open menus i guess
[17:44] <Adantan_Alex> i was helping someone
[17:44] <bod_> my mistake sorry
[17:44] <Adantan_Alex> its ok :)
[17:44] <psyxious> I need someone to point me in the right direction, I want to begin 'developing' or contributing code towards Ubuntu and its apps, what channel should i join?
[17:44] <noob-africa> didnt u suggest i use mplayer@kindofabuzz?
[17:45] <bod_> !who | Adantan_Alex    then can i suggest this ;~)
[17:45] <kiuq> how my drivers can be NTFS AGAIN? i mean delete the ubuntu
[17:45] <ubotu> Adantan_Alex    then can i suggest this ;~): As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[17:45] <Adantan_Alex> bye all
[17:45] <kindofabuzz> noob-africa: yeah because it covers realplayer stuff and i thought what you wanted to listen to was rp format
[17:45] <kindofabuzz> i don't know how to add a radio station  though
[17:45] <typoe> psyxious depends what package(s) you are interested in, there is a list at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[17:46] <kindofabuzz> mplayer is a plugin
[17:46] <Adantan_Alex> !alternate | kuiq
[17:46] <ubotu> kuiq: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[17:46] <jack_spratt> kindofabuzz: the BBC has closed everything up, invented new cr@ppage etc., i dont think itll be that easy
[17:46] <Adantan_Alex> mistake with name.... its ok
[17:46] <Adantan_Alex> bye
[17:46] <noob-africa> jack_spratt: well, the realplayer site chose the .bin file for realplayer10gold saying it is the GTK version for linux
[17:46] <bod_> bye
[17:46] <balle> bod_ yea but not the sound card thing
[17:46] <balle> gotta go to the addic, secs..
[17:46] <kiuq> how my drivers can be NTFS AGAIN? i mean delete the ubuntu
[17:47] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: try http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSL2880883820080403 maybe for direct news and vids - the BBC do virtually no reporting of their own anyway - you wont be missing much
[17:47] <Pici> kiuq: Please rephrase your question
[17:47] <kindofabuzz> noob-africa: what is the radio link?
[17:47] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: but you havent managed to execute the bin?
[17:47] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: did you make it executable like i said in its permissions/properties?
[17:47] <noob-africa> http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/check/swahili/meta/tx/swahili_1530?size=au&bgc=003399&lang=sw&nbram=1&nbwm=1
[17:47] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: whats that?
[17:47] <Acxty> Hi guys, I have a problem trying to connect a netmos pci serial card may someone guide me on this?
[17:48] <Didas> hey who was the person who send me the link about the audio problem?
[17:48] <code_kill> sounds dumb, but how do i use my webcam ?
[17:48] <kindofabuzz> code_kill: plug it in?
[17:48] <code_kill> or configure from cmd
[17:48] <code_kill> lol
[17:48] <code_kill> it's pluged in, but what soft can i use it with
[17:48] <kindofabuzz> mine works just out of the box
[17:48] <noob-africa> jack_spratt: bbc swahili... i speak swahili
[17:48] <noob-africa> also
[17:49] <noob-africa> my native language
[17:49] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: ahh, ok
[17:49] <Tu13es> hm, my wifi card is getting named "wlan0_rename" for some reason, any ideas how to change it back to eth1?
[17:49] <kindofabuzz> code_kill: search synaptic for webcam
[17:49] <code_kill> no,no....i pluged it in, i'm using pidgen, so how do i use it when chatting?
[17:49] <eipipuz> Hello guys, could someone help me with an Apache2 problem? I'm getting "Failed to resolve server name for..." for an IP I don't even know
[17:50] <dalek_> when I freshly install ubuntu, is there anything I should run or update first?
[17:50] <dalek_> I can't seem to find my Dell wireless n card
[17:50] <Pici> !webcam > code_kill (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[17:50] <MrBumblebee> it's right on your desk
[17:50] <iositd> code_kill, pidgin doesn't support webcam iirc
[17:50] <bazhang> dalek_: there should be a bunch of updates waiting for you off the bat
[17:50] <genii> epitron: Does the IP start like: 169.254.x.x           or so?
[17:51] <eipipuz> genii, no its 200.20
[17:51] <bazhang> dalek_: what does lspci say about that card (just one line)
[17:51] <Didas> genii, the link you gave me was the instruction i originally used to get my sound working, and it worked this time as well, so thank you. :)
[17:51] <smallthunder> Hello people
[17:51] <genii> Didas: You're welcome :)
[17:52] <fuhreal_> is it normal for gnome to use 80%+ available ram?
[17:52] <mark__> can I have compiz fusion with Fluxbox?
[17:52] <eipipuz> the message says "or specify an explicit ServerName". I do have one. I have tried to with other names, with localhost, it doesn't seem to read that line
[17:52] <crdlb> mark__: compiz and fluxbox are both window managers
[17:52] <Who_> fuhreal: Gnome- or the whole system
[17:52] <plurt> fuhreal_: depends on how much ram you have :)
[17:52] <b4l74z4r> does xchat use the same font renderer as other ubuntu apps?
[17:52] <crdlb> you can only have on window manager
[17:53] <fuhreal_> plurt: 753
[17:53] <cyclonuts> hey folks, I am installing something from source, and by defaults it puts it's binaries in /usr/local/bin. I want them in /usr/bin. How can I change that?
[17:53] <fuhreal_> err 752mb
[17:53] <thoreauputic> fuhreal: run  free -m  and look at the buffers/cache
[17:53] <mark__> oh ok thanks crdlb
[17:53] <genii> eipipuz: Compare the ip against a possible one in /etc/apache2/ports.conf or an entry of name ServerName x.x.x.x in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf  or against the result of ifconfig
[17:53] <code_kill> once again.
[17:53] <erUSUL> b4l74z4r: yes afaik
[17:53] <code_kill> thank you very much
[17:53] <b4l74z4r> ok
[17:53] <node357a> cyclonuts: ./configure --prefix=/usr
[17:53] <iositd> fuhreal_, it depends on what you understand as "use". Actively it will probably use less (i hardly use more then 300 ever), but it caches a lot.
[17:54] <Who_> fuhreal: Linux tries to use a lot of the RAM to speed stuff up - it keeps a cache of things you might want soon/often
[17:54] <crdlb> cyclonuts: installing random software to /usr bad idea though
[17:54] <ddd_> hi!
[17:54] <b4l74z4r> cause i have the fonts in xchat set at sans regular 10 and they somehow look different from the same fonts in other apps
[17:54] <crdlb> is a bad idea*
[17:54] <dalek_> bazhang, bazhang, it says Broadcom Corporation BCM4328 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 03)
[17:54] <code_kill> see, i never had the need to us ewebcam in linux. but since recently, i'm saying no to windows compltely! so from now on only linux, so there for need to know these other things.  thanks for help:)
[17:54] <Who_> ddd_: hello
[17:54] <fuhreal_> so i have 257mb of cache ...
[17:54] <erUSUL> !broadcom | dalek_
[17:54] <ubotu> dalek_: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[17:54] <smallthunder> Hello people
[17:54] <Who_> fuhreal: could easily be so
[17:54] <fuhreal_> if needed, with the cache be freed automatically to run bigger apps ?
[17:54] <jack_spratt> noob-africa: maybe try:http://www.ipsinternational.org/africa/sw/?
[17:54] <cyclonuts> node357a: crdlb: thanks
[17:54] <Who_> smallthunder: Hi
[17:54] <thoreauputic> fuhreal_: yes
[17:55] <Who_> fuhreal: yes
[17:55] <tyler_d> my wireless password is not accepted I'm on 8.04?
[17:55] <cyclonuts> crdlb: this is trustworthy, thanks for the warning :)
[17:55] <fuhreal_> hrmm so maybe i won't "need" to instal lfluxbox after all ...
[17:55] <thoreauputic> fuhreal_: but fluxbox is nice anyway :)
[17:55] <Who_> fuhreal: is performance acceptable (it should be!)
[17:55] <erUSUL> !hardy | tyler_d
[17:55] <ubotu> tyler_d: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[17:55] <crdlb> cyclonuts: it's not about trustworthyness but cleanliness. /usr/local is in all the various paths to make it work as well as /usr
[17:56] <fuhreal_> Who_: it is so far.. but i haven't started using Jack very heavily yet
[17:56] <Who_> fuhreal: Not familiar with Jack - but I have 512mb RAM and it isn't _always_ sufficient. Do you have a swap partition?
[17:56] <fuhreal_> thoreauputic: it is nice but i just got all my stuff setup in gnome.. haha...
[17:56] <fuhreal_> Who_: yah i do
[17:57] <cyclonuts> crdlb: well why, when I install it in /usr/local, and I try to run the binary, it will not find it?
[17:57] <thoreauputic> fuhreal_: I don't think you'll have memory issues :)
[17:57] <crdlb> cyclonuts: the binary is in /usr/local/bin ?
[17:57] <kindofabuzz> i only have 768M of ram, my swap never gets touched
[17:57] <cyclonuts> crdlb: yes
[17:57] <fuhreal_> thoreauputic: with gnome? i fear i may  but i'm intalling fluxbox for now anyhow
[17:57] <crdlb> cyclonuts: you might need to restart your terminal as bash caches paths for you
[17:57] <fuhreal_> thanks for the help guys
[17:57] <eipipuz> genii, thanks it works!
[17:57] <arashO|o> hi guise. how to stop iptabales? /etc/init.d/iptabales stop dos not works: it said:  command not found
[17:58] <Who_> fuhreal_: one useful tip is that if everything goes wrong and you hear the disk constantly thrashing and the computer is not responsive, you can push ctrl+alt+F1 to go to virtual terminal 1, login there and kill something like firefox that uses much memory
[17:58] <erUSUL> arashO|o: how did you enabled iptables?
[17:58] <bazhang> arashO|o: perhaps you mean iptables
[17:58] <cyclonuts> crdlb: oh okay, let me try. I uninstalled but will reinstall nowish
[17:58] <genii> eipipuz: So you added the machine ip to ports.conf?
[17:58] <Who_> kindofbuzz: you use Firefox and still don't need swap? maybe my setup has issues somewhere else
[17:58] <fuhreal_> Who_: yah ... thanks for the tip
[17:59] <arashO|o> bazhang: sorry yes i mean sudo /etc/init.d/iptables
[17:59] <MattzAtRapture> Who: Photorec is recovering the files. You're a saint!
[17:59] <te> 'lo
[17:59] <segura2> holaa a todos
[17:59] <te> Could anyone help me run some x apps via ssh?
[17:59] <bazhang> !es | segura2
[17:59] <ubotu> segura2: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[17:59] <te> I don't think I have DISPLAY set up right
[18:00] <thoreauputic> arashO|o: that's not how iptables works :) Did you write your own or use a front end?
[18:00] <arashO|o> erUSUL: i think my ftp port is block by frewall and i wanna stop it to sure
[18:00] <te> what should my local DISPLAY var be, and what should the server's DISPLAY var be?
[18:00] <bod_> can anyone give some insight as to why this does not work? -- URL=$(cat ./$@ | paste) && zenity --info --text=$URL
[18:00] <segura2> no se ingles so jilipoya
[18:00] <bazhang> segura2: /j #ubuntu-es
[18:00] <thoreauputic> te just run ssh -X server-address
[18:01] <thoreauputic> te note capital X
[18:01] <erUSUL> arashO|o: iptables doesn't get enabled by default but if you want to mak sure you can do «sudo iptables -F»
[18:01] <segura2> hay alguien sevillana
[18:01] <bod_> dw, fixed it
[18:01] <erUSUL> !es | segura2
[18:01] <ubotu> segura2: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[18:01] <segura2> kiere alguien follar?
[18:01] <thoreauputic> te You shouldn't need to mess with DISPLAY variables
[18:01] <Who_> MattzAtRapture: No probs... Note that the guy who wrote PhotoRec is the _real_ saint!
[18:01] <segura2> yes; no
[18:01] <bazhang> segura2: type /j #ubuntu-es
[18:01] <erUSUL> !ops | segura2 nasty words an actitude
[18:01] <ubotu> segura2 nasty words an actitude: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpatrick or jussi01!
[18:02] <te> thoreauputic: Warning: No xauth data; using fake authentication data for X11 forwarding.
[18:02] <te> xterm Xt error: Can't open display:
[18:02] <te> xterm:  DISPLAY is not set
[18:02] <MattzAtRapture> He should let me know if he needs a kidney or anything
[18:02] <segura2> i live seville
[18:02] <arashO|o> erUSUL: to flush it? tnx
[18:02] <thoreauputic> te: what are you actually running, and are you in X?
[18:02] <Who_> MattzAtRapture: I notice there was a donate button on his page, but I think it was only for money - PayPal doesn't do organs yet :P
[18:03] <erUSUL> arashO|o: yep you can check first if there is rules active with "sudo iptables -L"
[18:03] <te> thoreauputic: no im not in X, im on my command line in andLinux on my windows box
[18:03] <TnS|Acu> Hello everyone. I've got a problem kind of weird with my mouse... When I move it, the pointer instead of going smoothly from point A to point B, makes 2 or 3 intermediate jumps... It feels like its lagging... I actually don't think it depends on the device itself since I’ve already tried a few and all behaved erratically... Anybody has a clue about what it could be and/or have experienced anything similar ?? Please let me know ^^ Thx a lot!!
[18:03] <te> i want to open X11 apps on my VPS
[18:03] <Nitro> a quick one. Is there any way to "refresh" the amount of storage on a disk?
[18:03] <thoreauputic> te: the X server runs locally - ssh -X won't work unless you have X running locally :)
[18:03] <erUSUL> Nitro: define "refresh"
[18:04] <MattzAtRapture> well i've still got to actually restore the hdd to the way it was once the data is all extracted but knowqing it can be saved is a huge weight off. thanks Who_ and everyone else
[18:04] <Nitro> erUSUL: well, term (and everything else) is saying that there's no space left on the drive. so I deleted some more.
[18:04] <erUSUL> Nitro: df -h
[18:04] <thoreauputic> te: that's why it's compalining about DISPLAY not being set
[18:04] <te> thoreauputic: how do i run it locally?
[18:04] <Nitro> thank you.
[18:04] <te> :X
[18:04] <thoreauputic> *complaining
[18:04] <te> sorry im a newb
[18:04] <erUSUL> Nitro: System>Admin>System Monitor
[18:04] <kohwj> has kernel 2.6.22-14-generic been patched for vmsplice()?
[18:04] <te> i dont want a whole desktop environment
[18:05] <te> i just want a basic x server
[18:05] <thoreauputic> te: umm - if you have  awindow manager running, X is running
[18:05] <te> thoreauputic: this is weird because i can run Kate and other GUI apps from my command line
[18:05] <te> but when i ssh out to my VPS
[18:05] <te> it doesn't work
[18:05] <te> does X need to be running on my VPS
[18:05] <Nitro> erUSUL: it's still complaining about there being no space left. (oh, and yes I already knew how to check the amount of data)
[18:05] <te> is that what you're telling me
[18:05] <johannix> sound problem: as a result of having no sound i kept trying to setup my sound card and now have multiple devices listed for the same card. how can i safely get rid of all the incarnations?
[18:05] <erUSUL> !enter | te
[18:05] <ubotu> te: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[18:06] <Nitro> erUSUL: I'm just having issues making the system "know it". since it appears to not know.
[18:06] <Nitro> I'll try a restart then
[18:06] <te> sorry erUSUL.  thoreauputic : basically i can run X apps locally, but the second i ssh out to my server and try to run xterm, it tells me xterm Xt error: Can't open display: localhost:0.0
[18:06] <bazhang> kohwj: yes long ago
[18:06] <iositd> te, there are some things you need to consider. Did you enable X forwarding, did you add -X on connecting?
[18:07] <thoreauputic> te: then try for example  startx /usr/bin/xterm
[18:07] <thoreauputic> te: or just xinit
[18:07] <jack_spratt> bah you try to help people and they run off
[18:07] <kohwj> bazhang: thanks
[18:07] <thoreauputic> then run ssh-X
[18:07] <thoreauputic> but without a window manager, your apps will just sit there
[18:07] <te> thoreauputic: iositd thanks ill that
[18:07] <iositd> jack_spratt, it's one of the risk you run when helping folks =)
[18:07] <jsanchez> algien abla español
[18:07] <te> iositd: how do i enable X forwarding, just by adding -X?
[18:07] <iositd> !es | jsanchez
[18:07] <ubotu> jsanchez: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[18:08] <iositd> te, on the server you have to edit the ssh server settings.
[18:08] <jsanchez> vale
[18:08] <thoreauputic> te: I run remote X over ssh all the time - you don't need special stuff: ssh -X Just Works if X is running
[18:08] <jack_spratt> iositd: its crazy how theres 1200 people in here and people with simple questions still cant seem to get answers
[18:08] <thoreauputic> te: on Ubuntu anyway
[18:08] <te> thoreauputic: d'oh! X isn't running it doesn't look like
[18:08] <erUSUL> jack_spratt: fell free to provide them
[18:09] <thoreauputic> te: Well then ssh -X won't work :)
[18:09] <iositd> thoreauputic, forwarding X has to be enabled on the server otherwise it'll refuse.
[18:09] <erUSUL> feel*
[18:09] <te> thoreauputic: in fact it doesn't look like X is installed on my remote box -- what is the most basic barebones install of X11 I can install with apt-get?
[18:09] <iositd> te, if it isn't running, start it from remote.
[18:09] <te> x11-common?  something along those lines?
[18:09] <thoreauputic> iositd: yes, but on Ubuntu that is OK out of the box
[18:09] <kindofabuzz> te: you also have to make disallowtcp=false in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[18:09] <iositd> thoreauputic, i see.
[18:09] <te> kindofabuzz: thanks ill change that
[18:09] <thoreauputic> iositd: if he's connecting to something else, then of course that is an issue
[18:10] <johannix> anyone know about sound settings. woule really appreciate some help with this. I've tried the forum, but haven't gotten any response. I just want to clear the settings for my sound card so I can have a new go at it...
[18:10] <iositd> thoreauputic, it seems he's connecting from ubuntu to something else.
[18:10] <thoreauputic> iositd: or if the admin disabled it etc.
[18:10] <jack_spratt> erUSUL: ive been trying, but i've never used ubuntu and generally my knowledge isnt great. However i ve jsut been addressing two people in pvt from here so some progress at least (though one left just as we were getting close)
[18:10] <iositd> thoreauputic, and the list goes on =)
[18:10] <thoreauputic> iositd: no, it seems he doesn't have X running locally :)
[18:10] <te> no i have X running locally
[18:10] <iositd> thoreauputic, he doesn't have it runnign remotely is what i'm assuming (he has to install it there)
[18:10] <thoreauputic> te: so what are you connecting to ?
[18:10] <te> im running andLinux which is basically ubuntu for windows VMware kind of deal
[18:11] <te> im connecting to an ubuntu VPS
[18:11] <iositd> thoreauputic, most VPS's i've come across are a barebone install with openssh-server
[18:11] <thoreauputic> iositd: OK :) I guess I missed that aspect, thanks.
[18:12] <iositd> thoreauputic, we all miss something sometime. That's why we're never alone here helping someone.
[18:12] <te> so if i have an xserver running locally, and i can run "kate &" and it will pop up just fine
[18:13] <te> why can't i run xterm from my server
[18:13] <iositd> te, it's an x program, like the name suggests.
[18:13] <kitche> te: do you have X installed?
[18:13] <iositd> te, and make that remotely.
[18:13] <insomninja> editing files on a terminal that thinks it's a 80x50 but is a ~40x25 is a pain =_=
[18:13] <te> as in, is X installed remotely?
[18:14] <te> x11-common is installed remotely.
[18:14] <thoreauputic> te: if the remote machine doesn't have x libraries etc it won't run
[18:14] <rwycuff> te:just use ssh it will give you same terminal that xterm gives you
[18:14] <bra1> hi, does anybody know why my flash player on thing like you tube wont  go full screen without jolting?
[18:14] <te> what do i need to get basic X functionality, i dont want to load 1000000 libraries
[18:14] <johannix> please...how can i clear my ALSA settings. I've got four versions for the same card
[18:14] <roland> hello all
[18:14] <te> rwycuff: i want to run other GUI apps, not xterm, this is just a test application to see if i can get -X working
[18:15] <kitche> te: xserver-xorg
[18:15] <te> kitche: thanks
[18:15] <iositd> can i set a speed limit on apt?
[18:15] <rwycuff> johannix:you will have to you will have to unload the alsa modules manually
[18:15] <plurt> anybody else have a www.%u.com problem with firefox? how do I fix this?
[18:15] <roland> could some1 help me out with unmounting/mounting my drives!   i have 3 drives, one with Windows XP installed on it, and 2 other FAT32 drives... the windows xp drive and one of the fat drives, get mounted on startup! the thing is i wanna stop this! and just auto mount the 3d fat ALONE
[18:16] <stemount^> hi all, is anyone encountering issues with http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com APT mirror? (speed issues)
[18:16] <kitche> plurt what is the problem exactly?
[18:16] <rwycuff> te: so id this server headless or something to where yuou cant just turn monitor on and go
[18:16] <johannix> rwycuff: any guidance on that? where to look...what to do...
[18:16] <plurt> kitche: when firefox opens a page of it's own, like after an upgrade or so, it uses www.%u.com as link
[18:17] <stemount^> anyone encountering issues with speed with gb.archive.ubuntu.com /q me
[18:17] <te> rwycuff: yeah this is a headless server
[18:17] <rwycuff> johannix:there is always google but give me sec ill find sokmethign
[18:17] <kitche> plurt: might be due to how ubuntu's firefox is setup not sure though
[18:17] <johannix> rwycuff: thanks!
[18:17] <smithey93> anyone any idea when me and many others are having problems with the ubuntu update mirror for the uk?
[18:17] <rwycuff> te:ok and are you trying to access it like this through linux workstation or is it a windows box
[18:18] <IdleOne> smithey93: they might be uploading to the server wait a bit and try again later
[18:18] <Sinnerman> why do i need a loopback device? can i just delete it? i mean lo.
[18:18] <smithey93> its been like that for a few days IdleOne
[18:18] <IdleOne> smithey93: try using different servers.
[18:18] <bazhang> smithey93: try another mirror then
[18:19] <iositd> just to verify: 800 kilobits == 100KiB/s ?
[18:19] <smithey93> just a second ill try changeing it to the global mirror
[18:19] <Unter_> iositd: yes
[18:19] <iositd> Sinnerman, don't delete it. It's needed for certain local programs.
[18:19] <Unter_> 8 bits to a byte.
[18:19] <iositd> Unter_, thank you.
[18:19] <rwycuff> johannis:just lsmod find module and do modprobe -r adn then name and that would do it
[18:19] <Unter_> 1024 bytes to a kilobyte, 1024 kilobytes toa megabyte, etc....
[18:19] <iositd> Unter_, attempting to find a decent solution to my networking problem :-)
[18:19] <te> rwycuff: windows box, but this is a Linux vm
[18:20] <Sinnerman> iositd: hmm er ok.
[18:20] <smithey93> stemount - change your server on the config to ubuntu.virginmedia.com i just have and its pro
[18:20] <Unter_> iositd: im a network guy -- whats your issue?
[18:20] <te> rwycuff: i can't run xinit on the remote box, it doesn't know where localhost:0.0 is
[18:20] <te> xhost + says the same thing
[18:20] <johannix> rwycuff: that would just unload it that one time right?
[18:21] <johannix> rwycuff: meaning. once the machine restarts it would go live again
[18:21] <iositd> Unter_, well it's fairly simple. I'm using a wireless connection that is shared with 5 other ppl (some wired, some wlan) and from 6 in the evening till midnight i want to limit traffic downstream to about 100kbps to prevent draining the entire connection so i planned to use wondershaper for it.
[18:21] <te> rwycuff: XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
[18:21] <Roland> any1 knows the Hyper terminal equivilant on Ubuntu?! i wanna connect to my cisco router..
[18:22] <Acxty> Hi, i have small problem. My computer don't have serial ports and I need them for a gprs modem. I buy a netmos pci serial card that has 1 parallel and 2 serial ports, I have been trying to make it work but it doesn't recognize anything may someone help me with that?
[18:22] <rwycuff> johannix,yes but thats the only way to do it that  iknow of
[18:22] <bazhang> Acxty: sounds like a hardware issue
[18:23] <Unter_> iositd: ah.
[18:23] <jack_spratt> Acxty: you need to find out what chips it has and do a search on their linux compatibiltiy
[18:23] <jack_spratt> Acxty: i would say
[18:23] <Unter_> I haven't done a lot of linux traffic shaping/qos; im mainly a cisco guy :)
[18:23] <Acxty> bazhang, supposely it works under linux
[18:23] <johannix> rwycuff: hm. sound has been the toughest thing i've had to deal with on my machine.
[18:23] <johannix> go figure
[18:23] <gerrue> Hello, i am thinking of changing my OS to Uuntu, but can i still use software programs/games i have or do i need to get linux versions?
[18:23] <rwycuff> te:not sure if you doing it the way im thinking of or not but there is away and seems kida straight forward to do x11 tunneling through ssh ,but has to be done on system with xorg on it
[18:23] <iositd> Unter_, i'm goin to learn cisco stuff in about a month or so ... =)
[18:23] <Unter_> cool.
[18:23] <jack_spratt> Acxty: saus who? are you sure you have the same revision as they one thats supposed to work?
[18:23] <rwycuff> johannix waht sound card
[18:24] <erUSUL> gerrue: the later
[18:24] <jack_spratt> gerrue: you mean win apps and games?
[18:24] <johannix> rwycuff: SB Audigy LS
[18:24] <erUSUL> gerrue: althought some stuff my work in wine
[18:24] <Acxty> jack_spratt, I follow the installation guide on debian and it works fine, now I use the same card on ubuntu and there is wher the problem start
[18:24] <erUSUL> !wine | gerrue
[18:24] <ubotu> gerrue: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[18:24] <nixnoob> how can i see error messages that would cause my enitre machine to reboot?
[18:24] <jack_spratt> Acxty: so you know how to install it in debain?
[18:24] <gerrue> thanks, erUSUL, where could i find linux software?
[18:24] <jack_spratt> nixnoob: check logs i guess
[18:25] <jack_spratt> nixnoob: /var/logs/
[18:25] <Mattz> right, now that my data is being rescued, i can get back to my original purpose: I want to make a set of Debian floppy boot discs in order to resurrect a terminal laptop with no CDROM or USB booting capability. Which guide do folks recommend?
[18:25] <Acxty> jack_spratt, it works on there, but I change my computer from debian to ubuntu
[18:25] <bazhang> gerrue: in the software repos
[18:25] <smithey93> i fixed my problem with slow update speeds - changed the server in software sources under sytem -> admin, so if anyone is having issues, just take a look on that and change it to if your in the uk ubuntu.virginmedia.com it works a charm
[18:25] <erUSUL> gerrue: ubuntu comes with apps that let you install software from withing the Os without the need to go searching the web
[18:25] <erUSUL> !software | gerrue
[18:25] <ubotu> gerrue: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[18:25] <jack_spratt> Acxty: well if you know what to do in debian you can start troubleshooting the differences
[18:25] <genii> Mattz: Does the thing have an ethernet adapter?
[18:25] <nixnoob> jack_spratt, any particular log?
[18:25] <Acxty> had been trying and trying and nothing
[18:25] <jack_spratt> Acxty: you know what drivers are required (if any) therefore
[18:25] <rwycuff> johannix :ahh yuor in luck thats my sound card at home too
[18:25] <jack_spratt> nixnoob: try messages file
[18:26] <Acxty> jack_spratt, no driver, on setserial command
[18:26] <rwycuff> johannix : whats it doing wrong
[18:26] <Acxty> *only
[18:26] <bazhang> Mattz: the machine is totally dead? will not boot at all?
[18:26] <Mattz> Yes and No. I've spent the last 6 weeks mucking about with it's PCMIA ethernet card, which I've come to the conclusion is approximately 3 million years old and cannot be used for a net boot. However it would work if I can get an OS running on it
[18:26] <johannix> rwycuff: sweet... besides driving me nuts. at this point I either have no sound or can play only through certain programs
[18:26] <bazhang> smithey93: thanks for the info
[18:26] <jack_spratt> Acxty: are you using the same kernel in debian and ubuntu?
[18:27] <nixnoob> jack_spratt, all it says is restart exiting on signla 15
[18:27] <Acxty> debian has an older one
[18:27] <johannix> rwycuff: i put up a lot of information on the forum... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=737323
[18:27] <Acxty> both 2.6
[18:27] <johannix> rwycuff: if that's any help
[18:27] <genii> Mattz: You can get a floppy disk image made at rom-o-matic site which will boot then will try netboot on adapters which do not have native PXE
[18:27] <Mattz> It can boot an ancient Xubuntu distrib that has for some reason a terminally broken networking system that refuses to cooperate. so best to start fresh
[18:27] <Mattz> genii: tried that in eveyr possible way. it doesn't work
[18:27] <jack_spratt> nixnoob: hmm im googling signal 15
[18:28] <smithey93> bazhang: no problem mate
[18:28] <meretricis> looking for some interested tricks and customizations.. any links available?
[18:28] <rwycuff> johannix: ok go play with the alsamixer siome and towards the end of the configs there is like a bunch with weaird names or numbers i cant remember its been so long but i had to mute them and one of the audigy output and then turn up the pcm and it worked
[18:28] <bazhang> meretricis: check out ubuntu tweaks
[18:28] <jack_spratt> nixnoob: you messed around with cron or similar at all?
[18:28] <Acxty> ubuntu 2.6.20-15-generic and debian 2.6.15-26
[18:28] <Mattz> i'm not even sure the ethernet card works (as this laptop is the only way to test it) though I'm told the Wifi card we have for it works guaranteed
[18:28] <meretricis> thanks bazhang
[18:28] <sagredo> Hi, can someone help me see if my sound card is functioning? I cannot hear anything
[18:29] <genii> Mattz: There is also a debian boot floppy whic you can use to make a plip0 interface and use the parallel port with a laplink/crossover to network
[18:29] <nixnoob> jack_spratt, no i havent done anything yet i installed yesterday its fresh
[18:29] <Mattz> of course, you can't PXE on a wifi card, so it needs to be floppys
[18:29] <gerrue> Thanks all.
[18:29] <iositd> does anyone happen to use wondershaper with succes, as mine won't properly restrict network traffic.
[18:29] <jack_spratt> Acxty: hmm strange the newer one has the problems, if no drivers are needed presumably they are inbuilt to the kernel
[18:29] <rwycuff> johannix: first off remove any mod that snt the alsa emu10k1 mod
[18:29] <smithey93> anybody had any luck at installing call of duty 4 on ubuntu like with wine and stuff?
[18:29] <iositd> !appdb | smithey93
[18:29] <ubotu> smithey93: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[18:29] <nixnoob> jack_spratt, could be hardware problem?
[18:29] <bazhang> smithey93: have you checked the apddb?
[18:30] <bazhang> oops
[18:30] <jack_spratt> nixnoob: try looking in some other logs maybe, like kernel,
[18:30] <nixnoob> jack_spratt, whats the command to see cpu temp? cat /proc/cpuinfo.....
[18:30] <smithey93> ubotu: thanks for the info - ill check it out, because i dont want 2 go on xp :)
[18:30] <jack_spratt> nixnoob: i dont know really, ive not much experience with diagnosis like this
[18:30] <jack_spratt> nixnoob: erm
[18:31] <meretricis> trying to make an application start in a specific workspace.. is 'devil's pie' the only option?
[18:31] <Mattz> Sadly we have no parallel cables/port expanders to use that option with. It has to be install from floppies and then use the rudimentary install to install Xubuntu/Ubuntu or similar
[18:31] <smithey93> ah - i need to install a patch to my cd, thanks for the help ubotu
[18:31] <jack_spratt> nixnoob: you think it may be a temp problem?
[18:32] <johannix> rwycuff: i'm not sure what i'm looking for in lsmod. I don't see alsa or emu
[18:32] <nixnoob> jack_spratt, perhaps it just randomly restarted just now but i think it could be a temp problem because it also restarts if i try to run CSS in wine
[18:32] <rwycuff> johannix can you post the output of your lsmod some place
[18:32] <johannix> ok
[18:33] <jack_spratt> nixnoob: counterstrike source
[18:33] <nixnoob> jack_spratt, yes
[18:33] <Mattz> genii: We're talking a real old school install by floppy, no frills. The laptop is THAT old :p
[18:34] <johannix> rwycuff: http://dpaste.com/42952/
[18:34] <johannix> rwycuff: as i pasted i see all the snd things listed from lines 15-23
[18:34] <jack_spratt> nixnoob: i dunno, id look in the other logs probably, from what i can determine signal 15 isnt conclusive one way or the other
[18:34] <genii> Mattz: I understand :) I've made some old 386 laptops into terminals
[18:34] <nixnoob> jack_spratt, thanks for your help
[18:34] <rwycuff> johannix: yeah give me second got lots of stuff going on but im looking through it
[18:35] <genii> Mattz: The cdrom works but just no boot capability from it?
[18:35] <sagredo> hi
[18:35] <sagredo> I'm trying to get my sound to sound
[18:35] <Mattz> no, there is no CDrom
[18:35] <sagredo> It is not right now
[18:35] <johannix> rwycuff: k. thanks
[18:35] <jack_spratt> nixnoob: np, sorry cant be more use, i got a similar problem with my laptop atm, jsut restarts completely randomly it seems with no way of determining whats doing it.
[18:35] <Mattz> genii: If it helps, it's a Toshiba Portege 3480CT with a USB floppy drive that inexplicably allows booting but not from the average USB key
[18:36] <iositd> Unter_, it would seem that wondershaper is the perfect tool for the job :-)
[18:36] <sagredo> How can I tell what Ubuntu is creting the sound from, ie. motherboard connection or sound card connection
[18:36] <jack_spratt> nixnoob: if you can be bothered you could do a memtest and CPU stresstest to make sure its not either of those
[18:36] <jack_spratt> nixnoob: its unlikely, but it rules out another possibility
[18:36] <bazhang> http://ohioloco.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442200 there is a script in here iositd
[18:37] <Kate_mins> Hello , I need help please, i got new computer, but when i used the live-cd and choose "start/install ubuntu" i get black screen ? can someone help me please ?
[18:37] <bod_> when reading 'man cp' there is 2 entries for   -p    one for 'never follow symbolic links' the other for 'remember permissions'     if i use -p wil that invoke both triggers? and why is there duplicates of -p?
[18:37] <nixnoob> jack_spratt, its weird because all these parts are brand new i just built this system but it seems the cpu fan is quite loud all the time and now im begining to suspect some botching on my part
[18:37] <Didas> This is only a recent problem, but when i start up ubuntu, i normally have my hd partitions displayed on the desktop, so i can access my windows partion or my linux file system. its no longer showing up. and when i go to /media  in command line, niether sda1 sda2, both partitions, are showing up as having anything in it. cant find anything on google about this. any ideas?
[18:37] <bod_> Kate_mins, got a graphics card in it? (desktop, laptop?)
[18:37] <jack_spratt> nixnoob
[18:37] <iositd> bazhang, it would appear that it was caused by a conflict with my version of iproute. I fixed it by slightly adjusting the wondershaper (which functions perfectly btw)
[18:37] <bazhang> Didas: show up in fstab?
[18:37] <dalek_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Gutsy
[18:38] <jack_spratt> nixnoob: the uncertainty can be a b1tch, I killed 6 cpus in 24 hours once with a dodgy cpu fan
[18:38] <dalek_> guys, I don't see the broadcom chipset in restriced drivers manager
[18:38] <Kate_mins> bod_: yes, its built-in card.. (desktop)
[18:38] <rwycuff> johannix:do you have onboard sound card too
[18:38] <jack_spratt> nixnoob: its undoubtedly nothing to worry about in your case, youll fix it soon no doubt
[18:38] <bod_> Kate_mins, built in, so not removeable?
[18:38] <johannix> rwycuff: ya. i already disabled it
[18:38] <sikava> hello
[18:38] <Didas> bazhang, yes it does
[18:38] <nixnoob> jack_spratt, thanks for the vote of confidence
[18:39] <jack_spratt> nixnoob: new parts + ubuntu = unlikely any problems
[18:39] <dotech> if i have a core 2, is the 64-bit version of ubuntu going to really speed things up?
[18:39] <jack_spratt> gtg
[18:39] <jack_spratt> bye
[18:39] <bazhang> unless the name is broadcom
[18:39] <nixnoob> jack_spratt,  /me sudo reboot brb
[18:39] <dotech> the last time i tried linux and 64-bit i had endless problems with compatibility, but this was about 2 years ago
[18:39] <sikava> is ubuntu graeter than xps?
[18:39] <johannix> rwycuff: one more thing to note. is that i get the "audiotestsrc wave=sine" error on two of my five alsa versions
[18:39] <bod_> i find ubuntu 64 really stable
[18:39] <bazhang> dotech how much ram for that? over 4GB then it may be worth otherwise not much diff
[18:39] <johannix> rwycuff: this was the reason i kinda wanted a clean start
[18:39] <dotech> 8gb
[18:40] <johannix> rwycuff: so it'd be easier to see what's going on.
[18:40] <smithey93> im planning on buying a gigabit swich soon, anyone any idea on what sort of gigabit cards i should get? netgear, intel etc?
[18:40] <dotech> if its relatively pain free i will probably do it
[18:40] <sikava> hey people is ubuntu more effecient than windows xp?
[18:40] <iositd> sikava, yes
[18:41] <smithey93> sikava - ubuntu is the way forward in life
[18:41] <Didas> bazhang, if it shows up under fstab, but cannot be accessed via /media   do you know any other options or possible solutions?
[18:41] <bazhang> sikava: this is a support channel not a poll channel thanks
[18:41] <SkinnYPupp> What does totem need to playback mp3's in 6.06 lts? I installed ffmpeg but it doesn't seem to be enough
[18:41] <nixnoob> im abck
[18:41] <sikava> ok
[18:41] <rwycuff> johannix, so you have 5 versions of alsa installed now
[18:41] <bazhang> Didas: what about manually mnt them
[18:41] <johannix> rwycuff: right
[18:41] <johannix> which is madness obviously
[18:41] <johannix> and makes for editing the sound settings complicated
[18:41] <efirewick> does anyone know what files are added when you install "libpam-keyring"? it screwed up my computer and I just want to put things back the way they were...
[18:41] <johannix> and highly error prone
[18:41] <dalek_> BCM4328 no in the Restricted Drivers Manager, any ideas guys?
[18:41] <noob-africa> hi..... any skype users in here?
[18:42] <noob-africa> i just installed, am getting error... problem with audio playback
[18:42] <Didas> bazhang, havent tried that.
[18:42] <sikava> how do iget to trash in ubuntu, am new on it so idont know much of ot, pls help
[18:42] <dotech> i.e. slow
[18:42] <almostdvs> hello..  after a reboot required by todays update in hardy heron i recieved an error that it was going to try another greeter. didn't work, now in recovery mode, will someone please help
[18:42] <jake2point0> i installed Savage. a linux game and after clicking Start, Terminal spits out this information.  the game dont work http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61959/
[18:42] <invalidsyntax> which device do i select for sound (ati ixp(alsa mixer) or Realtek ALC250 rev (OSS Mixer)?
[18:42] <bazhang> dalek_: did you read the !broadcom link?
[18:42] <noob-africa> !skype
[18:42] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[18:42] <smithey93> brb people
[18:43] <dalek_> hey baz, I did.  It says the broadcom chipset should be listed under Restricted Driver Manager but it's not
[18:43] <invalidsyntax> any takers
[18:43] <bazhang> almostdvs:  hardy in #ubuntu+1 thanks
[18:43] <almostdvs> ty
[18:43] <rwycuff> johannix:ok so how did yuo get each one of these alsa services installed
[18:43] <dalek_> I'll do it the hard way. ^_^
[18:43] <invalidsyntax> which device do i select for sound (ati ixp(alsa mixer) or Realtek ALC250 rev (OSS Mixer)?
[18:43] <efirewick> sikava: there is a trash can/recycle bin looking icon on your bottom tool bar.
[18:43] <sikava> how do get to trash?
[18:43] <bod_> the man pae for mv doesnt list a -r parameter, does that mean that i cannot use mv to move directories or will it move them ompletely without a -r parameter?
[18:43] <bazhang> invalidsyntax: why not test them out and see which works
[18:44] <Shadow420> hey I am trying to compile Zsnes 1.36 but I can't get sdl 1.2.0 reconized and I have it from the repos
[18:44] <jake2point0> i installed Savage. a linux game and after clicking Start, Terminal spits out this information.  the game dont work http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61959/
[18:44] <sikava> thank you so much
[18:44] <invalidsyntax> neither works
[18:44] <johannix> rwycuff: manually. from the ALSA sources
[18:44] <invalidsyntax> i have no sound on this laptop
[18:44] <efirewick> sikava: n/p
[18:44] <johannix> rwycuff: was recommended on one of the posts...
[18:44] <invalidsyntax> also is there a totem chat?
[18:45] <rwycuff> johannix:so its 5 instances of the actual service or just 5 sound cards in alsa
[18:45] <jake2point0> S o m e o n e   H e l p   M e
[18:45] <johannix> rwycuff: um. when I open the sound settings in Ubuntu. Five different versions setup...
[18:45] <efirewick> invalidsyntax: If you double click on the sound icon and go into file -> change device
[18:46] <invalidsyntax> i did efirewick
[18:46] <clutsy-ribbon> can some one tell me how to install a compiz theme please?
[18:46] <yoddabyte> join #linux
[18:46] <Kate_mins> bod_: sorry , i just checked again. its motherboard of "MSI" and screen adapter "TC 512 NX8400GS PCIE"  (not built-it - you can removed the card from the board"
[18:46] <SkinnYPupp> invalidsyntax: if you are using xchat hit alt c to list channels available
[18:46] <invalidsyntax> but no sound from either one
[18:46] <LadyNikon> jake2point0: if you cant get info from here.. please see the forums.
[18:46] <efirewick> invalidsyntax: did you make sure the pcm is all the way up?
[18:46] <bod_> Kate_mins, try removing the card and using the motherboard built in graphics
[18:46] <rwycuff> johannix:ok give me a second that should just be 5 soundcards  i dont know why that was suggested but who knows
[18:46] <jake2point0> i installed Savage. a linux game and after clicking Start, Terminal spits out this information.  the game dont work http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61959/
[18:46] <rotvic> hey guyz
[18:47] <jake2point0> one thousand two hundread and sevendy three users and no one knows how to install Savage
[18:47] <johannix> rwycuff: if you look at the first Code section on the thread you'll see all the CA0106 devices listed under 'aplay -l' http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=737323
[18:47] <Kurbz> wash your asstoo when you have the brillo pads out
[18:47] <rotvic> need some help.. i'm running UrbanTerror the linux game and when it loads full screen i get "No Signal Recived" floating on my screen over the game plan ?
[18:47] <Kurbz> sorry wrong window... LOL
[18:48] <Kate_mins> bod_: the motherboard dosent have built-in graphics
[18:48] <bazhang> jake2point0: you likely need to take a breather; if no one knows at the moment then no one knows
[18:48] <mjay> Can anyone help me install a c7280 printer??or have a link to support
[18:48] <sikava> when downloading smthing  do bittorent help in downloading?
[18:48] <rwycuff> johannix:umm yeah that audigy card should work with 1 driver the emu10k1
[18:48] <mjay>  Can anyone help me install a c7280 printer??or have a link to support??
[18:48] <LadyNikon> sikava: can you rephrase that?
[18:48] <yoddabyte> http://czarism.com/how-to-install-savage-on-ubuntu-debian-linux
[18:48] <hischild> !repeat | mjay
[18:48] <ubotu> mjay: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[18:48] <jake2point0> i installed Savage. a linux game and after clicking Start, Terminal spits out this information.  the game dont work http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61959/
[18:48] <LadyNikon> mjay: please dont repeat yourself.. if you dont get help here please try the forums
[18:48] <efirewick> invalidsyntax: my speakers on my laptop seem to work after I adjust the pcm setting now and again. I think my old desktop did the same thing from time to time.
[18:49] <rotvic> anybody please ?
[18:49] <linkinxp> jake2point0, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=394849
[18:49] <jake2point0> nice google search.  do you know what my terminal info means in the pastebin.
[18:49] <bod_> Kate_mins, lol,. damn,. well my problem was i couldnt have the nvidia driver loaded before the session so i ouldnt see anything, but i had motherboard graphics, maybe try looking for a way to load the restricted drivers for your graphics card before x starts
[18:49] <dotech> you convinced me, i'll go with 64-bit :)
[18:49] <Shadow420> hey I am trying to compile Zsnes 1.36 but I can't get sdl 1.2.0 reconized and I have it from the repos so how do I fix this?
[18:50] <yoddabyte> jake2point0 - u ran thsi as sudo right
[18:50] <hischild> jake2point0, if you won't accept help when given, then don't bother asking. You might want to adjust your attitude as we're not doing this for money.
[18:50] <linkinxp> jake2point0,  reinstall or install perl :D
[18:50] <bazhang> ;]
[18:50] <johannix> rwycuff: ah. so the entire problem could be that i'm using CA0106 instead of CMU10k1
[18:51] <johannix> rwycuff: so did you manually install ALSA?
[18:51] <johannix> i could just go through that process again...
[18:51] <sikava> do i have to have downloading manager to speed up downloading process?
[18:52] <rwycuff> Johannix first time i did it yes i did install it that way and after that ubuntu worked with the card outta the box for me
[18:52] <node357a> Shadow420, I did that once by copying the SDL header files into the zsnes src/ directory
[18:52] <rwycuff> johannix:but first time i got that card to work was in arts
[18:52] <node357a> but I forget where to get them
[18:52] <mjay>  Can anyone point me into the right direction to install a HP c7280 printer thats wireless???
[18:52] <bazhang> sikava: downloading what?
[18:52] <Shadow420> the 1.2 headers
[18:52] <sikava> softwares
[18:52] <node357a> yeah all the .h files from SDL
[18:52] <mrpockets> my CD drive won't give me my CD :(
[18:52] <Shadow420> ok
[18:53] <mjay> punch it
[18:53] <mjay> =D
[18:53] <Scunizi> If I install Ubuntu on an external device (re: key, or drive) and then install Avast or AVG in that environment can I boot to it on a system and scan the internal Windows drives of a desktop/laptop for virus's?
[18:54] <hischild> mrpockets, try eject, and if it doesn't work, use sudo eject.
[18:54] <linkinxp> mjay,  i installed one in  a lan!  i guest its not the same
[18:54] <hischild> mrpockets, only when not using the live cd.
[18:54] <mjay> it maybe the same
[18:54] <nixnoob> ok one of my sensors is reporting 127C why would that happen?
[18:54] <invalidsyntax> still no sound after pcm adjustment
[18:54] <Mattz> Scunizi: It would be easier just to make a Portableapps.com suite key and use ClamWin
[18:54] <mrpockets> unable to eject
[18:54] <linkinxp> mjay,  i just browsed the lan and it was there the printer its plugged to a pc with windows i only ask me for a password and thats it :D
[18:54] <efirewick> invalidsyntax: what's the make and model? and what are you trying to hear?
[18:54] <bazhang> Scunizi: any reason not to install directly via usb to the target system? I carry around a usb stick with those apps on it
[18:55] <dalek_> argh, why won't my bcm4328 wireless card showup under Restricted Devices manager
[18:55] <rwycuff> johannix:yes i  have had to manually do it before
[18:56] <startherepodcast> mrpockets: there is usually a little hole in the front of your cd drive if you push a paperclip in there the tray should slide out
[18:56] <Scunizi> Mattz, bazhang I was thinking of that.. but I wanted to be able to boot to the device to isolate windows as a non-running system then scan for problems.. in the hopes of cleaning a win. drive
[18:56] <jake2point0> welp.. i did a search in the synaptic manager for perl and like 200 packages showed up but not one said Perl.
[18:56] <Mattz> ah right
[18:56] <johannix> rwycuff: looking through the ALSA docs. Trying to figure ou why I used CA0106...
[18:56] <johannix> rwycuff: but ya, I think I'm gonna have to go through that again.
[18:56] <hischild> jake2point0, perl is in there. It's around the middle.
[18:57] <jake2point0> hischild ok ill check it again... and ty
[18:57] <rwycuff> Johannix: and if the emu10k1 module is installed you should be able to do something like modprobe alsa_emu10k1 and that would work
[18:57] <jake2point0> i mean thank you
[18:57] <Mattz> Scunizi: it would be easier to use a distro such as Damn Small Linux or Puppy I think, but there is no reason you couldn't put ubuntu on a portable HDD and boot from USB
[18:57] <bazhang> Scunizi: ah I see the dilemma; but whatever extra stuff that may get in can be fixed by getting new definitions while online for spybot, ad-aware, avg etc
[18:58] <der|kunstler> On my system, when I do System > Quit, my computer Hangs... any ideas ?
[18:58] <der|kunstler> Ubuntu 7.10, Gnome
[18:58] <Mattz> Though if it's NTFS formatted drives, it's a pain to read them from Ubuntu (to my knowledge), much less get a Wine Emulation that would manage it
[18:58] <johannix> rwycuff: thansk. i'm gonna give it a go...
[18:58] <Scunizi> bazhang, so what you're saying is use the portable apps on a usb key, boot to windows, load the appropriate app and update then scan?
[18:58] <rwycuff> johannix:that driver they had you use is most commonly used for realtek sound cards maybe if this was your onboard card it would wok but not for this
[18:58] <der|kunstler> I mean, I can kill gnome using CTRL+ALT+Backspace
[18:59] <rwycuff> johannix: ill be here for 3 more hours let me know how it goes
[18:59] <pkundu> !flash
[18:59] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[18:59] <johannix> rwycuff: ok. thanks...
[18:59] <Titanium2204> salut tout le monde
[18:59] <Titanium2204> j'ai acheté Most Wanted et j'aimerais l'installé sur mon pc
[18:59] <jake2point0> last time i removed a major package and all its dependencys then reinstalled it via synaptic, i never got into my desktop after logging in.  Had over 15 gigs of games and configurations, lost everything.
[18:59] <bazhang> Scunizi: that has always worked for me; the commercial apps are worthless imo and dont forget spybot and ad-aware but I better stop before I get offtopic'd ;]
[18:59] <pkundu> !Restricted
[18:59] <Titanium2204> et quand je le lance avec cedega
[18:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[18:59] <Lamego> !fr | Titanium2204
[18:59] <ubotu> Titanium2204: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[19:00] <x1250> Hi guys, I have an ATI x1400 card + ubuntu hardy + direct rendering = compiz works ok. My problem is that scrolling is too slow for me, for example in firefox. Anyway to fix this?
[19:00] <bazhang> x1250: #ubuntu+1 please
[19:00] <linkinxp> x1250,  mouse settings?
[19:00] <linkinxp> bazhang,  :D
[19:00] <x1250> this is not a hardy specific issue
[19:00] <Mattz> sigh,a kernel panic on the Debian install floppy. It's like the universe is working against me fixing this laptop
[19:00] <bazhang> x1250: that is the correct channel thanks
[19:01] <aoupi> hi, why don't I get any colors when I pipe ls? like 'ls -1' has colors but 'ls -1 | less' does not, neither does 'ls -1 | most'
[19:01] <hischild> x1250, actually, it's hardy specific. Compiz has had some major makeover and update.
[19:02] <Scunizi> bazhang, one of the benefits to running ubuntu from usb and isolating the other op.sys is so when scanning the commercial apps you mention don't interfere with the scan.. (trying to stay on-topic).. also what other tools are available in Ubuntu for fixing a windows install .. other than fdisk :)
[19:02] <x1250> hischild: this happens also in gutsy, it is something related to the ati driver and compiz
[19:02] <invalidsyntax> got sound very low though
[19:02] <hischild> x1250, it might also happen in gutsy, yet it still is hardy specific as that is what you run.
[19:02] <Lamego> aoupi, if the output device is not a tty the color controls are ommited
[19:03] <invalidsyntax> got sound very low though
[19:03] <aoupi> Lamego: is there some environment variable I can set to change that?
[19:03] <soundray> aoupi: less can't deal with the ANSI escape codes used for colour. Try 'ls --color | less' to force them to stay in
[19:03] <efirewick> invalidsyntax: I hope that is a step in the right direction
[19:03] <invalidsyntax> yea but need more volume lol
[19:03] <aoupi> soundray: excelent, thanks
[19:03] <nixnoob> anyone know anything about hwmon? my temp3 is reporting 127C?
[19:03] <bazhang> Scunizi: gparted format partition to ext3 (just kidding)--your way of running ubuntu from usb seems good though you would somehow need to run those via wine I guess
[19:03] <Lamego> aoupi, don't think so, most utilities are not able to dearl with those chars
[19:04] <aoupi> Lamego: but at least now it gets throug, now I just have to find a pager that handles colors :)
[19:04] <Lamego> yuck :P
[19:04] <aoupi> Lamego: less -R did the trick :)
[19:04] <NICK-Z> grah brah.
[19:05] <Moppa^> when i install netpbm via apt, where does the binarys go?
[19:05] <soundray> aoupi: just found that, too. Nice!
[19:05] <NICK-Z> anyone knows exact command to kill x server
[19:05] <Lamego> Moppa^, dpkg -L netpbm
[19:05] <invalidsyntax> wtf
[19:05] <Scunizi> bazhang, that brings up the question.. do the virus scanners available to ubuntu natively discover virus's designed for windows? or are the signatures used different in some way?
[19:05] <Unxuxu> Hi... Is it possible to backup my entire Ubuntu (including configs, desktop arrangement, etc...), rebuild my partiontions scheme and so... restore the backup data, without more setup moves?
[19:05] <aoupi> soundray: yes, good stuff
[19:05] <efirewick> I would go in and make sure that both in devices the pc speaker, master volume, pcm are up (I would start at 3/4)
[19:05] <Moppa^> Lamego - thx
[19:06] <Lamego> Scunizi, there are no virus for linux, the existing antivirus are for windows virus detection
[19:06] <jake2point0> i guess Savage wont work in Gutsy only edgy.  that sucks
[19:06] <Lamego> Unxuxu, yes, you can use a partition backup image like partimage
[19:06] <Scunizi> Lamego, that I know. thanks..
[19:06] <soundray> !backup | Unxuxu
[19:06] <ubotu> Unxuxu: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[19:07] <Mattz> No one has had the insanity or patience to ever write a Linux virus that could spread :p
[19:07] <Lamego> Scunizi, so I don't see the point on your question :)
[19:08] <invalidsyntax> still low volume
[19:08] <efirewick> invalidsyntax: what is the make and model?
[19:08] <jake2point0> do you know what "whackin your hard drive" means?
[19:09] <Scunizi> Lamego, a file infected with a virus (windows) will have a specific signature.. however will the virus scanner running in Ubuntu also check a mounted windows partition INCluding the registry of that windows system?
[19:09] <invalidsyntax> toshiba satalite it worked the other day
[19:09] <Joelito> Hi guys, How can I know if my pc supports 32 or 64 bits?
[19:09] <bazhang> Scunizi: the linux version of avast will get the bad ms virii, though the spyware I m not sure about
[19:09] <soundray> Joelito: what's the model name/number of the CPU?
[19:10] <Scunizi> bazhang, ok.. any tools available for that?
[19:10] <splog> anyone know why my video on utube or google is like out of sync sort of like in the old days when you lost vertical sync except in this case the picture doesnt move up or down but a white line moves up thru the pic. Sound is OK UBUNTU 7.10
[19:10] <mypapipu> hi
[19:10] <efirewick> invalidsyntax: If it worked the other day and you have not changed anything, (and it worked for a long time before that) then I would assume your sound card might be going bad...
[19:10] <Joelito> soundray: Intel pentium dual core: 2.33 GHz
[19:10] <invalidsyntax> ugh
[19:11] <efirewick> invalidsyntax: did you change anything, install, etc....
[19:11] <Lamego> Scunizi, signatures are usually file based, I don't believe antivirus will do registry scanning, since that would required to manage the registry file without the windows api
[19:11] <soundray> Joelito: ah, difficult one. You need to look up the model name and stepping in cat /proc/cpuinfo and then find out from Intel's web site or Wikipedia
[19:11] <briareos90> splog: does normal flash applets run okay ?
[19:11] <Lamego> I mean, AV for Linux
[19:11] <clutsy-ribbon> hey can someone help me install a compiz theme?
[19:11] <invalidsyntax> no
[19:11] <jaffarkelshac> yeah
[19:11] <jaffarkelshac> you mean the software?#
[19:12] <Lamego> not to mention, that AV on Linux are used for scanning in traffic, or media based virus, not for live windows systems cleaning
[19:12] <efirewick> invalidsyntax: I would think it is your card. that is an assumption, you should test more.
[19:12] <jake2point0> clutsy-ribbon  in your synaptic manager search for Emerald  get the emerald theme manager.
[19:12] <shishirm1> i removed both the gnome panels by mistake
[19:12] <clutsy-ribbon> i have emerald
[19:12] <invalidsyntax> i have
[19:12] <invalidsyntax> lol
[19:12] <Unxuxu> Lamego: OK... I now there are many ways to backup my system... but Im really worried if Ill need to reconfigure some settings or it will be easy to restore like put an image to run back...
[19:12] <clutsy-ribbon> i have a theme
[19:12] <efirewick> invalidsyntax: try hooking up some speakers or headset to the 1/8" jack.
[19:12] <clutsy-ribbon> i have imported it
[19:12] <bazhang> Scunizi: http://www.howtoforge.com/virus-protection-with-avast-on-ubuntu-gutsy-gibbon I'm guessing you could point this at the windows system through the (ontopic!) ubuntu usb system
[19:12] <jake2point0> ok cool so whats up
[19:12] <Mattz> hmm...
[19:12] <splog> briar  I don't knwo when or if I am running a normal flash applet
[19:12] <invalidsyntax> k
[19:12] <bidossessi> hi folks
[19:12] <Lamego> Unxuxu, if you do a full backup, there is nothing to reconfigure, you just restore, well, if you do partition changes, you will need to adjust your /etc/fstab
[19:12] <clutsy-ribbon> but it doesn't seam to be working, everything looks the same
[19:13] <Mattz> weird...every other wifi point in our building has disappeared
[19:13] <bidossessi> is there a gui way to format a flashdisk on ubuntu?
[19:13] <jake2point0> did you reboot your computer?
[19:13] <efirewick> invalidsyntax: then see if you can adjust it through your sound settings on your destop...
[19:13] <splog> briar  its true some videos dont do that
[19:13] <Mattz> sorry, used to thinking out loud in IRC. back on topic
[19:13] <Lamego> Unxuxu, same for your menu.lst if you change the root part
[19:13] <Lapinux> clutsy-ribbon: you have to change your window manager to get the themes to work
[19:13] <Flannel> bidossessi: gparted is a popular one
[19:13] <clutsy-ribbon> hmm were is that setting please?
[19:13] <CShadowRun> Hmm, ubuntu seems to be running really slow (P4 2.8Ghz, 1GB Ram, Intel 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller)
[19:13] <Shadow420> blah does anyone have a copy of the orginal copy of the sdl 1.2.0 src file
[19:14] <Unxuxu> Lamego: tks!
[19:14] <CShadowRun> The weird thing is is that compiz cube runs 100% fine, while simply things like scrolling down in a document is really slow
[19:14] <CShadowRun> whats up with that?
[19:14] <Lamego> Shadow420, apt-get source libsde1.2debian ?
[19:14] <Lamego> ops, sdl
[19:14] <bazhang> CShadowRun: what about with compiz disabled
[19:14] <Scunizi> bazhang, thanks for the link.. I appreciate the feedback.. what a great way to promote Ubuntu by booting to it, enabling graphics (compiz), cleaning a windows system, then explain they wouldn't have to do that again if they made the switch.
[19:14] <jake2point0> lemme guess schadowrun.. you have ATI video card or some junk onboard video?
[19:14] <CShadowRun> i think it was the same
[19:14] <shishirm1> i removed both gnome panels by mistake how do i get them back?
[19:14] <CShadowRun> jake2point0 junk onboard :p
[19:14] <Lapinux> clutsy-ribbon: i just had the same problem but cant exactly remember how i switched it
[19:14] <bidossessi> Flannel: thanks
[19:15] <chazco> Hi... in order to get bluetooth USB pass-through to work in Virtualbox i ran sudo chown -R root:vboxusers /proc/bus/usb ... just wanting to confirm this wont cause any ill effects? (or is there a better way to do it)
[19:15] <jake2point0> yep  its junk thats your prob... case closed
[19:15] <Flannel> shishirm1: right click near the top/bottom of the screen (respectively) then "add panel" then right click on it and "add to panel"
[19:15] <CShadowRun> aww :(
[19:15] <Teoz> anyone here play in the ssh_conf or sshd_cong files ? Im not sure about the syntax when adding ports to listen to
[19:15] <clutsy-ribbon> lol
[19:15] <Titanium2204> Hello my friend i have a problem i bought need for speed most wanted yesterday and i want to install my game with cedega and cedega say : you haven't any memory in your hard disk to install NFSMW ! Why ? :( who can help me ?
[19:15] <invalidsyntax> its low on ext speakers also
[19:15] <CShadowRun> my "spare" computer, my main one bit the dust (Just after i had damned well got ubuntu working with ATI, Dual head, and compiz...)
[19:15] <clutsy-ribbon> well i will have a search on google
[19:15] <briareos90> shishirm1: i dunno the proper way to get them back .. but the last time that happened to me i deleted the panel config files :P lol
[19:15] <CShadowRun> Someone upstairs doesn't want me using linux, haha xD
[19:15] <jake2point0> ok.. did you have any restricted drivers to install?
[19:15] <Lamego> Titanium2204, try a cedega/wine channel
[19:15] <CShadowRun> jake2point0 nope :(
[19:15] <bazhang> !resetpanels | shishirm1
[19:15] <ubotu> shishirm1: To reset the panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »
[19:16] <shishirm1> Flannel i deleted both
[19:16] <Lapinux> clutsy-ribbon: search google for setting up compiz-fusion with emerald and look for the part about starting emerald
[19:16] <CVD-PR> WHy the hell the openOffice Presentation is so, so slow when changing slides?
[19:16] <jake2point0> keep asking for help in getting better drivers for your onboard graphics.  i dontknow anything else as im a noob too...
[19:16] <bazhang> clutsy-ribbon: alt f2 emerald --replace
[19:16] <invalidsyntax> efire it is low on ext speakers
[19:17] <mypapipu> hii
[19:17] <Shadow420> ok
[19:17] <Scunizi> CVD-PR, presentation can be set to change slides at different speeds.. if it's win PPT file you're viewing it may be set slow
[19:17] <invalidsyntax> sound fixed
[19:18] <soundray> CVD-PR: no need to swear. Try increasing the graphics cache size (Tools-Options-Memory)
[19:18] <CVD-PR> Scunizi,  its not sped its look like laggin
[19:19] <mattan> hi, i have got a problem I cannot mount any hda or sda
[19:19] <mattan> what have I done wrong
[19:19] <JohnnyHempseed> for some reason during the ubuntu install it did not format sda6 correctly
[19:19] <soundray> mattan: what exactly have you tried?
[19:19] <JohnnyHempseed> how do i reformat htis partition to a fat32
[19:19] <JohnnyHempseed> this**
[19:20] <JohnnyHempseed> i tried doing it in windoze but it will only let me select NTFS
[19:20] <soundray> JohnnyHempseed: use mkdosfs -F32 (man mkdosfs)
[19:20] <mattan> just open it or  "mount -a" or mount /etc/hda3"
[19:20] <soundray> JohnnyHempseed: you probably want to change the partition type in gparted then
[19:20] <CShadowRun> 128MB nVidia 6200 128MB will be fine for running compiz and being a basic chat/browsing/email/boring stuff... machine right?
[19:20] <JohnnyHempseed> what do you mean soundray?
[19:21] <soundray> mattan: do you have an fstab entry for it?
[19:21] <Pici> cs278: that will be fine
[19:21] <mattan> @soundray yes I have I think so
[19:22] <luca> #addon!
[19:22] <soundray> JohnnyHempseed: the partition table contains a byte for each partition that indicates the partition type. Linux mostly ignores it, but Windows can be picky
[19:22] <luca> !addon
[19:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about addon - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:22] <luca> !lista
[19:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lista - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:22] <JohnnyHempseed> soundray grub wont come up any more i cant even access linux now =[
[19:23] <johannix> rwycuff: bad news. got stuck with the ALSA installation. It couldn't add the module to the kernel; back to modprobe again...
[19:23] <Teoz> !ssh
[19:23] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[19:23] <soundray> mattan: what does it look like?
[19:23] <JohnnyHempseed> i put the windows disk in to see if i could format that partition with out installing windows but it wouldnt ( i never installed windows either i just pressed esc for quit)
[19:23] <JohnnyHempseed> looks like it wiped out my master boot record any ways
[19:23] <soundray> !grub | JohnnyHempseed, follow the RecoveringUbuntu... instructions
[19:23] <ubotu> JohnnyHempseed, follow the RecoveringUbuntu... instructions: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[19:24] <CVD-PR> jack, cheese no matter what i put in powerPoiint its always smooth
[19:24] <soundray> Joelito: how are you getting on?
[19:24] <JohnnyHempseed> thank you soundray
[19:24] <soundray> CVD-PR: did you get my recommendation?
[19:24] <endo> how can I find the location of my lame executable?
[19:24] <Joelito> soundray: I'm still searching, most utils are for windows -_-
[19:24] <Lamego> Enders, which lame
[19:24] <soundray> endo: enter 'which lame'
[19:24] <endo> thank you :)
[19:25] <CVD-PR> soundray, yes, the problem is Presentation, in windows its the same thing
[19:25] <soundray> Joelito: what do you get from 'grep model\ name /proc/cpuinfo'?
[19:25] <mattan> @soundray all hda have a entry
[19:25] <soundray> CVD-PR: did you increase the cache size?
[19:26] <soundray> mattan: give me the line that you're entering when you're trying to mount the filesystem.
[19:27] <JohnnyHempseed> some one should write something that will auto fix your grub
[19:27] <JohnnyHempseed> and add it to all the live cds
[19:27] <JohnnyHempseed> would be nice
[19:27] <mattan> @soundray out of the fstab:"UUID=4520-2693  /media/hda4     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1"
[19:27] <mypapipu> halo
[19:27] <Daisil> heya. My wife is trying to watch stuff on youtube and the like, but isn't getting any sound, but her sound works the rest of the time. any ideas?
[19:27] <Scunizi> CVD-PR, try saving it in OO's format and reloading it.
[19:27] <CVD-PR> soundray, yeah but if use the presentation in another computer i have to do that again?
[19:28] <Murilo_> HAI GUISE
[19:28] <CVD-PR> Scunizi, its in OO already
[19:28] <mypapipu> there app like google earth at ubuntu ??
[19:28] <Pici> !googleearth | mypapipu
[19:28] <ubotu> mypapipu: Google Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html - A package for Ubuntu is available in the !Medibuntu repository
[19:28] <Scunizi> cvd_soundray,  could it be a Java issue? since OO uses a lot of it?
[19:29] <CVD-PR> ueah i think its for the java thing
[19:29] <CVD-PR> Presentation its always so slow
[19:29] <mattan> @soundray: mount /etc/hda4
[19:29] <mattan> @soundray :mount /etc/hda4
[19:29] <mattan> @soundray: mount /etc/hda4
[19:29] <mypapipu> ooohhh
[19:30] <n0mad> hi, plz telme will it ubuntu recognize inteldp35dp + e6750 + nv6200pciex16; i have bad luck with debian - just waisted my dvd
[19:30] <soundray> mattan: that can't work. After all, the mount point you've defined is /media/hda4 (not /etc/hda4)
[19:30] <Lamego> n0mad, try the livecd
[19:30] <soundray> CVD-PR: only if transitions are slow on that computer, too.
[19:31] <mattan> @soundray that does not work either
[19:31] <dalek_> fak, my m1530 won't install the damn bcm4328 drivers.
[19:31] <n0mad> lamego where can i get live is that new beta will be ok (it dosent lok like live :S ) ?
[19:31] <n0mad> Lamego, *
[19:31] <taza> I have an external ext2 formatted SDHC card.
[19:32] <taza> It seems to have 5% reserved for root
[19:32] <taza> How do I free it for any user use?
[19:32] <dalek_> kjlo
[19:32] <soundray> Scunizi: I doubt it. I find that the default graphics cache size settings are just too small for presentations that contain images
[19:32] <CVD-PR> soundray,  but in powerPoint no matter what i put on(grafics etc..) its always smooth
[19:32] <Rigd> Hi, I just installed Hardy and when I try to use the nvidia proprietary driver my screen shows some vertical black lines
[19:32] <soundray> !doesntwork | mattan
[19:32] <ubotu> mattan: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[19:32] <Pici> Rigd: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[19:32] <Scunizi> soundray, you mean inside of OO? in the setup?
[19:33] <soundray> CVD-PR: do you want to solve your problem, or just moan?
[19:33] <soundray> Scunizi: Tools-Options-Memory
[19:33] <taza> An external SDHC card has ext2 filesystem and has 5% reserved for root. How do I free the space for any user?
[19:33] <Scunizi> soundray, that's where I was thinking
[19:33] <CVD-PR> soundray,  the problem are gonna still the same
[19:33] <CVD-PR> until they make Presentation better
[19:33] <mattan> @ soundray : Normaly my system mounted this fat file system at startup but since a sort time it does not
[19:33] <CVD-PR> and not use java
[19:34] <JohnnyHempseed> soundray tab doesent work in the terminal off of the live cd
[19:34] <mattan> it says it is busy
[19:34] <Lamego> n0mad, just get the gutsy livecd from ubuntu.com
[19:34] <JohnnyHempseed> i already know where my root partition is though
[19:34] <CVD-PR> its fast if i dont use any effects :-(
[19:34] <n0mad> Lamego, ok thx
[19:35] <Scunizi> CVD-PR, did you see soundray 's post to me about the graphics cache in OO.. that it probably should be increased? and that might fix it?
[19:35] <Odd-rationale> What are some mp3 players that can play flac without thirdparty firmware?
[19:35] <Odd-rationale> And works with ubuntu
[19:35] <CVD-PR> ok wait
[19:35] <JohnnyHempseed> soundray im stuck at this step grub> setup (hd0) #Hit <Enter> key
[19:35] <Scunizi> Odd-rationale, corvin?
[19:35] <Odd-rationale> Scunizi: you mean cowen?
[19:35] <JohnnyHempseed> what does (hd0) need to be
[19:35] <Odd-rationale> *cowon
[19:35] <soundray> mattan: then it's already mounted
[19:35] <Scunizi> Odd-rationale, yes.. sorry couldn't remember the name.
[19:35] <CVD-PR> its there any Presentation viewer? so i can view it without openOffice
[19:36] <CVD-PR> ?
[19:36] <JohnnyHempseed> soundray if root is on sda3 would it be "setup (hd0,2)" ?
[19:36] <Odd-rationale> Scunizi: It seems like that is the only one... Does it work well with rhythmbox or amarok?
[19:37] <heydabop> What is the link for the repo-builder?
[19:37] <Scunizi> Odd-rationale, not really sure.. but others have had success.
[19:37] <mattan> but where can I find it and umount it
[19:37] <soundray> JohnnyHempseed: (hd0) is correct (you want grub in the MBR of your first hard disk -- not in the boot sector of /dev/sda3)
[19:37] <JohnnyHempseed> soundray so just type setup (hdo) ?
[19:37] <soundray> JohnnyHempseed: no, setup (hd0)
[19:38] <JohnnyHempseed> and now i can edit menu.lst?
[19:38] <soundray> mattan: enter 'mount' by itself to see a list of mounted filesystems
[19:38] <soundray> JohnnyHempseed: continue following the guide
[19:38] <Odd-rationale> Scunizi: ok thanks!
[19:39] <CVD-PR> Graphics Cache:  for OpenOffice:20mb,  Memory object:5.2mb,
[19:39] <mattan> there is no hda sda ( flash drive same problem)
[19:40] <Davison> Enter text here...hello room mates
[19:41] <peter_bz> how do I install a font?
[19:41] <JohnnyHempseed> soundray this cant be right /boot/grub/menu.lst is completely blank
[19:41] <n0mad> Lamego is there somewhere a live ubuntu to usb falsh (i have one it have about4gb space) ?
[19:41] <bk1979> Hi... I have a question.  I am trying to use an Ubuntu LiveCD to access a crashed computer (that boots into windows but gets stuck after entering password to log in) - I get this error message when attempting to access the hard disk: Unable to mount the volume "HP_Pavilion" - I also have the details that states $log file indicates unclean shutdown... mount is denied because NTFS is marked to...
[19:41] <CVD-PR> I notice if i play the slides in full screen its get laggin, but in windows mode its smooth
[19:41] <bk1979> ...be in use... etc - is there a work around that will allow me to access this hard disk to get a few ISO's off of it?
[19:41] <temmv4> Hi. Gmail stopped working for me and i dont understand why.
[19:42] <temmv4> I mean the web-interface. For some reason, after username/password firefox says page is loaded and still i cant see anything
[19:42] <mattan> @soundray: in this list are no hda or sda enrtys
[19:42] <soundray> JohnnyHempseed: where are you at?
[19:43] <peter_bz> did you set your preferences right temmv4?
[19:43] <soundray> mattan: can you put the output on a pastebin?
[19:43] <soundray> mattan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[19:43] <egc> does anybody have a pointer that explains how to transfer wordpress.com content to a local wordpress install?
[19:43] <temmv4> peter, preferences should be ok. gmail has been working for me for very long time (over a year)... yesterday, it stopped working with xubuntu/firefox
[19:43] <cristiane> credo
[19:43] <josemari> hola a todos
[19:44] <Pici> egc: ask in #wordpress :)
[19:44] <cristiane> ola
[19:44] <bazhang> egc on a ubuntu server?
[19:44] <Pici> !es | cristiane josemari
[19:44] <ubotu> cristiane josemari: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[19:44] <peter_bz> how do I install a font?
[19:44] <egc> bazhang: yup
[19:44] <egc> Pici: hehe thx
[19:44] <efirewic1> bk1979: using the live cd go into system -> administrator -> partition editor and unflag the ntfs for boot.
[19:44] <josemari> acabo de entrar con este sistema
[19:44] <JohnnyHempseed> soundray i am stuck at editing /boot/grub/menu.lst
[19:44] <soundray> !font | peter_bz
[19:44] <ubotu> peter_bz: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[19:44] <cristiane> sorry
[19:44] <JohnnyHempseed> menu.lst is completely blank
[19:44] <josemari> alguien español
[19:44] <bazhang> egc wordpress has an extensive knowledgebase for that and as Pici suggested a channel
[19:44] <Pici> josemari: escribe /j #ubuntu-es
[19:45] <SkinnYPupp> What packages do I need to add to 6.06 lts to play mp3's? I
[19:45] <bk1979> Thanks efirewic1 - I'll do that and come back if there's another snag!
[19:45] <egc> bazhang: ok, ill look at both, thanks
[19:45] <efirewic1> bk1979:  good luck
[19:45] <mattan> @sound ray : Problem with my parents I hvae to end sry. But thank you very much
[19:45] <JohnnyHempseed> soundray i found my old menu.lst
[19:45] <JohnnyHempseed> that i edited before
[19:45] <soundray> JohnnyHempseed: which set of instructions did you follow?
[19:45] <mattan> I will do it later and ask you and if I fit it I tell you
[19:45] <prophet05> Is the error of "Locking assertion failure." when starting java application using awt/swing with Java6 known for Hardy?
[19:46] <JohnnyHempseed> i did this  gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst from the website you told me
[19:46] <Pici> prophet05: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[19:46] <prophet05> ok
[19:46] <mattan> @soundray: THANKS
[19:46] <JohnnyHempseed> i did how ever mount sda3 and used nautilus to browse to the file
[19:46] <soundray> JohnnyHempseed: did you notice that there are several sets of instructions for different situations?
[19:46] <JohnnyHempseed> soundray no i did not realize it was that way
[19:47] <soundray> CVD-PR: how much RAM do you have?
[19:47] <n0mad> how to make live ubuntu @ usb falsh ?
[19:47] <CVD-PR> 512
[19:47] <n0mad> flash
[19:47] <n0mad> *
[19:47] <CVD-PR> soundray, 512mb
[19:48] <stefan__> how do i check if a hdd is phsically error-free? (not the FS)
[19:48] <ChaosTheory> No volume control Gstreamer plugins and/or devices found.
[19:48] <ChaosTheory> Any help? =|
[19:48] <ChaosTheory> I think this is the final thing I need to fix before everything can run normally.
[19:48] <soundray> CVD-PR: increase OpenOffice.org to 96 MB and memory per object to 16MB
[19:48] <dalek_> Can anyone help with installing the bcm4328 drivers on ubuntu 7.10
[19:48] <dalek_> the cutter isn't working
[19:49] <soundray> !info smartmontools | stefan__
[19:49] <ubotu> stefan__: Package smartmontools does not exist in gutsy
[19:49] <Andycasss> I installed irc hybrid but it doesnt want to listen on a mydomain.com, does it only accept IP-s?
[19:49] <|Dede|> I do not have sound when I start java applets (using Sun Java), can anybody help me please?
[19:49] <soundray> stefan__: oops, hold on
[19:49] <Jowi> soundray, I think the !info is broken (at least it was yesterday)
[19:49] <|Dede|> Andycasss: Do you mean lthe listen block?
[19:49] <gumby600m> "gunzip file.tar.gz" creates "file.tar", but deletes "file.tar.gz"...  How do I force gunzip to keep "file.tar.gz"???
[19:50] <Andycasss> |Dede|: Yes, but it needs ip too
[19:50] <cdecarlo> gumby600m: why would you want to keep it?
[19:50] <|Dede|> In the Ircserver config?
[19:50] <rwycuff> johannix:yes back to modprobe shouldnt have to install alsa again just the mod
[19:50] <|Dede|> Normally the listen block contains ports, I think
[19:50] <JohnnyHempseed> soundray the MBR was there the whole time
[19:50] <JohnnyHempseed> i dont know why it wasent working
[19:50] <JohnnyHempseed> its working now
[19:50] <stefan__> rofl.. just trying to install ubuntu on a older computer.. seems the nvidia -drivers DONT work with a GF2 MX.. creepy.
[19:50] <soundray> Jowi: thanks -- stefan__: look into smartmontools -- it contains tools to read a drives error status as well as load testing utils.
[19:50] <|Dede|> gf 2?
[19:50] <gumby600m> cdecarlo:  because it's part of a subversion repository and I always get missing links  when it's no longer there.
[19:50] <|Dede|> that's ancient, stefan__
[19:51] <soundray> !yay | JohnnyHempseed
[19:51] <ubotu> JohnnyHempseed: Glad you made it! :-)
[19:51] <kindofabuzz> stefan__: yes they do, i have xubuntu running on a mx400
[19:51] <|Dede|> I do not have sound when I start java applets (using Sun Java), can anybody help me please?
[19:51] <soundray> stefan__: you may need nvidia-glx-legacy
[19:51] <SkinnYPupp> stefan_: I think i ran into that before with a/b card version just being under the cutoff
[19:51] <JohnnyHempseed> soundray what was that one command you said for formatting sda6 to a fat32?
[19:52] <soundray> JohnnyHempseed: man mkdosfs
[19:52] <Andycasss> |Dede|: Ok, i just removed the "host" line, it listens on all ip-s now (192.168.1.xxx) and (127.0.0.1), but not on my public ip???
[19:52] <stefan__> kindofabuzz: hm the the lower half of the screen is pink.. excatly the lower half :) the rest is zigzag, but i can move the mousecursor perfetly in the upper half :P
[19:52] <cdecarlo> gumby600m: doesn't look like there is an option to keep the original .gz, have you tried tar -zxf filename.tar.gz
[19:52] <rwycuff> johannix: try this for emu10k1 setup http://alsa.opensrc.org/Emu10k1
[19:52] <kindofabuzz> stefan__: you probably have the wrong drivers loaded.  use legacy
[19:52] <|Dede|> Andy, is the server on you PC?
[19:53] <|Dede|> *your
[19:53] <Andycasss> |Dede|: Yes.
[19:53] <stefan__> kindofabuzz: i just inserted the install-cd :)
[19:53] <stefan__> .oO8 safe grafics mode)
[19:53] <|Dede|> Andycasss: You cannot connect to you Internet IP from you localhost, just use 127.0.01
[19:53] <htgul> Hi, I'd like to copy a whole folder (with subfolders) into another folder and only by one click (in a panel?). How could I do this?
[19:53] <|Dede|> 127.0.0.1
[19:53] <gumby600m> cdecarlo:  Thanks.
[19:53] <soundray> stefan__: if you have graphics issues with the live CD, you should try the text-based installer. Private message from ubotu...
[19:53] <cdecarlo> gumby600m: no problem
[19:53] <stefan__> htgul: ? what?
[19:53] <soundray> !alternate > stefan__
[19:54] <ChaosTheory> No GStream plugins and/or devices found.
[19:54] <ChaosTheory> Any help? =|
[19:54] <Jowi> ChaosTheory, for which application?
[19:54] <stefan__> yeah i know the alternate-cd, thx. furunatly got one here
[19:54] <Andycasss> |Dede|: Oh, ofcourse :) Silly me
[19:54] <|Dede|> Andycasss: Listening to ports 192.168.1.xxx means that only users in your own LAN network can join
[19:54] <puchacz> Hi. How to check which version of Kubuntu am I running?
[19:54] <htgul> stefan__, I want to copy a folder into another folder, but not ctrl+c and ctrl+v in nautilus, but only with one click
[19:55] <soundray> htgul: you need to write a script that runs 'cp -r /source/folder /target/folder/' and call that script from a panel launcher
[19:55] <efirewic1> chaostheory: did you install any packages for gstreamer?
[19:55] <Odd-rationale> puchacz: lsb_release -a
[19:55] <ChaosTheory> Jowi: Sound.
[19:55] <ChaosTheory> efirewic1: No, how do I do it?
[19:55] <|Dede|> If you want that everbody is able to join try using "*" instead
[19:55] <puchacz> Odd-rationale: thanks
[19:55] <stefan__> htgul: hold down CTRl or something.. i bet there is a key
[19:55] <stefan__> htgul: andthen drag and drop
[19:55] <htgul> stefan__, What?
[19:55] <karmelek> how to connect symbian phone (nokia 6630) with ubuntu using cable connection?
[19:55] <JohnnyHempseed> soundray im reading the man page but this is all chinese to me
[19:56] <soundray> htgul: have you seen my suggestion?
[19:56] <puchacz> what's the difference between "full upgrade" and "version upgrade" on "adept manager"?
[19:56] <htgul> stefan__, I don't want drag and drop, I want one click and then it should be done
[19:56] <stefan__> htgul: hold down CTRL, click onto the dir, drag it to the destination
[19:56] <Jowi> htgul, click and hold on the directory. drag to the destination folder. release button.
[19:56] <Jowi> htgul, ^^^ one click :)
[19:57] <CShadowRun> Ok, this is really weird. When i use compiz draw fire plugin, and draw a little fire on my screen, my system responds atleast 50% faster, if not more. If i scroll up and down in firefox without fire it scrolls the page in big one inch chunks, if i draw one tiny piece of fire, i can scroll up and down as fast as i can move the mouse without any tiny bit of lag. Whats up with that?
[19:57] <soundray> JohnnyHempseed: a typical mkdosfs invocation would be 'sudo mkdosfs -F32 -n VolumeName /dev/sdg9'
[19:57] <stefan__> htgul: not possible by one click. a copy needs at least 2 parameters: file and target
[19:57] <LinTux> how do I generate a CA to sign emails with?
[19:57] <|Dede|> I do not have sound when I start java applets (using Sun Java), can anybody help me please?
[19:57] <soundray> htgul: did you get my suggestion?
[19:57] <efirewic1> chaostheory: goto system -> administrator -> synaptic pack -> search for gstream and check for install, then apply.
[19:57] <ChaosTheory> efirewic1: I just did that.
[19:57] <stefan__> LinTux: gpg?
[19:57] <efirewic1> chaostheory: and...
[19:57] <ChaosTheory> efirewic1: Nothing changed.
[19:57] <htgul> stefan__, Jowi But I the terminal I can do it by one line, can't I create a script containing cp /foo /bar and execute it via an panel-icon
[19:58] <cdecarlo> maybe htgul has a quantum computer that already knows where the folder should go because he's already done it in another dimension
[19:58] <JohnnyHempseed> so does -n give it a volume name so where it says "volumename" replace it with something like "partition 6"
[19:58] <Jowi> LinTux, "gpa" is a gpg keyring assistant. quite easy to use.
[19:58] <stefan__> htgul: ah now i see. you want to copy the same dir to the same destination every time?
[19:58] <efirewic1> chaostheory: where are you getting this error again?
[19:59] <soundray> htgul: HELLO?
[19:59] <ChaosTheory> efirewic1: I right click the speaker at the top --> open volume control.
[19:59] <prettyricky> Hey guys is there a reason why my ALT-F2 does not work? And is there anyway to enable that feature?
[19:59] <ChaosTheory> efirewic1: When I first clicked it, it said it didn't recognize a sound card or something.
[19:59] <stefan__> prettyricky: nuder X youll need to use ctrl.alt.fX
[19:59] <stefan__> .=+
[19:59] <JohnnyHempseed> soundray sudo mkdosfs -F32 -n partition6 /dev/sda3 ?
[20:00] <efirewic1> chaostheory: double click on the speaker icon
[20:00] <prettyricky> ? fx
[20:00] <cdecarlo> stefan__: I think that prettyricky is talking about alt-f2 launching the run dialog
[20:00] <ChaosTheory> efirewic1, that gives me the "No GStreamer plugins and/or devices found."
[20:00] <StereoSkit> hi all, i just dist-upgraded hardy today and when asked for a boot i did it, now the system wont load, it halts at the busybox !!!!, any workaround for this ?
[20:00] <Pici> StereoSkit: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[20:00] <efirewic1> chaostheory: gotcha
[20:00] <stefan__> oh
[20:00] <soundray> JohnnyHempseed: looks okay (mind you this will destroy all data in /dev/sda3)
[20:01] <JohnnyHempseed> yeah the 3 was a typeo
[20:01] <JohnnyHempseed> dont wanna do that sda3 is root lol
[20:01] <efirewic1> chaostheory: when did this stop working?
[20:01] <htgul> stefan__, Yes
[20:01] <soundray> StereoSkit: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[20:01] <ChaosTheory> efirewic1: Yesterday.
[20:01] <ChaosTheory> efirewic1: I was trying to fix another sound problem -- sound from both the speakers and the microphone.
[20:02] <marios> halo
[20:02] <eitreach>  /join #ubuntu-dk
[20:02] <eitreach> erm.
[20:02] <efirewic1> chaostheory: do you have the alsa-base package installed?
[20:02] <ChaosTheory> efirewic1: How do I check?
[20:02] <Troofy> how to chant apt to use a proxy instead , to download apps?
[20:02] <impulze> is there a chance to see explicitly installed packages (not those implicitly pulled in as deps)
[20:03] <efirewic1> chaostheory: go back into synaptic and search under sound or asla.
[20:03] <JohnnyHempseed> soundray i think this harddrive is screwed up
[20:03] <impulze> perhaps a shell oneliner could do that?
[20:03] <efirewic1> alsa
[20:03] <Ntemis> hello
[20:03] <efirewic1> sorry
[20:03] <ChaosTheory> efirewic1, alsa-base is installed.
[20:03] <Ntemis> please help me out
[20:04] <dragon2> how can i install ubuntu from iso without cd-rom, lan and Wubi??
[20:04] <impulze> debootstrap
[20:04] <Pici> !install > dragon2 (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[20:04] <htgul> stefan__, you want to copy the same dir to the same destination every time Yes, thats what I want to do, but I didn't manage to configure a panel icon that could do that
[20:04] <Pici> !ask | Ntemis
[20:04] <ubotu> Ntemis: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[20:04] <JohnnyHempseed> dragon2 i think theres a .exe windoze install
[20:04] <Ntemis> i have the bottom panel but i cannot see my opened applications in it!
[20:04] <JohnnyHempseed> correct me if im wrong guys
[20:04] <stefan__> htgul: create a textfile: 1st line: #!/bin/bash 2nd line: cp /from/here /there -R   Save it. type chmod +x thefile. this is like a .bat in windows
[20:04] <Pici> JohnnyHempseed: Thats wubi
[20:04] <Ntemis> so i need to alt+ tab to see them or close them
[20:04] <efirewic1> chaostheory: click on it and mark it for re-installation. then apply
[20:04] <soundray> Troofy: set a variable like this: export http_proxy="http://some.url.com"
[20:04] <Ntemis> please advice what is needed to be done
[20:04] <dragon2>  JohnnyHempseed: i have no exe
[20:04] <Ntemis> thanks in advance for any help given
[20:05] <rrittenhouse> For ubuntu am I safer going with a Dell M1330 or a thinkpad R/T/X series?
[20:05] <Troofy> soundray how to undo if i have done it already?
[20:05] <JohnnyHempseed> dragon2 pici just told me its wubi
[20:05] <soundray> Troofy: if you want this permanently, you can add the variable setting to /etc/environment
[20:05] <ChaosTheory> efirewic1, did that.
[20:05] <helit> do you speak french
[20:05] <ChaosTheory> efirewic1, same thing.
[20:05] <htgul> soundray, Ok, finally I read your suggestion, sorry. But what should my skript contain? Only that line?
[20:05] <puchacz> Hi again, I was trying to upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 and I had: "Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release Unable to find expected entry  (Source/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)"
[20:05] <soundray> Troofy: undo: export http_proxy=''
[20:05] <dragon2> JohnnyHempseed: wubi doesn't work
[20:05] <htgul> soundray, Ok, stefan__ answered
[20:06] <htgul> stefan__, Ok, thanks I'll try that
[20:06] <evand> dragon2: can you elaborate?  What about it doesn't work?
[20:06] <puchacz> when I try this URL manually, the server responses.
[20:06] <soundray> Troofy: or just end the bash shell - export only works on the current shell session
[20:06] <JohnnyHempseed> dragon2 iv never used wubi
[20:06] <marios> hi mitsio
[20:06] <dragon2> evand: i have runtu. russian version of ubuntu
[20:06] <JohnnyHempseed> dragon2 what version of windows are you running
[20:06] <Troofy> soundray i think i have entered it in a file. i cant remeber where/.
[20:06] <Pici> Ntemis: Right click on the panel, go to add to panel and select Window List
[20:06] <dragon2> JohnnyHempseed: xp
[20:06] <ChaosTheory> efirewic1, any suggestions>
[20:06] <efirewic1> chaostheory: I would try to re-install your volume control. go to applications - add/remove
[20:06] <JohnnyHempseed> oh
[20:07] <Ntemis> i have the bottom panel but i cannot see my opened applications in it!
[20:07] <JohnnyHempseed> so what happens when you try to open wubi?
[20:07] <ChaosTheory> efirewic1, okay.
[20:07] <efirewic1> chaostheory: then re-install, and reboot.
[20:07] <Troofy> soundray i think i have entered it in a file. i cant remeber where/.
[20:07] <soundray> Troofy: 'cd /etc ; grep http_proxy *'
[20:07] <dragon2> it cannot find image file
[20:07] <evand> Yeah, that wouldn't work.  It wont be able to find the CD.
[20:07] <Jowi> Ntemis, right click on the panel and add a window list to it.
[20:07] <Andycasss> Ive just made my irc server, but i dont have any idea how to get services running on it, such as nickserv. Could somone help me out?
[20:07] <efirewic1> chaostheory: by the way what is the model pc your are using?
[20:07] <soundray> Troofy: or maybe you've added it to $HOME/.bashrc
[20:07] <Jowi> Ntemis, it might have been removed by mistake...
[20:07] <Troofy> soundray bash.bashrc:export http_proxy=http://192.168.3.3:8080/
[20:07] <JohnnyHempseed> cant find what image file
[20:08] <JohnnyHempseed> does it say the name of the file
[20:08] <ChaosTheory> efirewic1, HP dv6000.
[20:08] <Ntemis> jow1
[20:08] <evand> as Wubi specifically looks for Ubuntu, Kubuntu, or Xubuntu.
[20:08] <JohnnyHempseed> or does it just say 'cant find image file'
[20:08] <Pici> Andycasss: Perhaps looking for the irc channel for whatever ircd you are running is a good start
[20:08] <ChaosTheory> efirewic1, it says I need to install through Synaptic, is that okay?
[20:08] <Ntemis> 1st i want to thank you for your help
[20:08] <Moduliz0r> Hi, how do I set up Ubuntu (7.10) to receive files on Bluetooth?
[20:08] <stefan__> htgul: if you ancounter any problems just google for "bashscript howto". google should come up with alot of good info on that
[20:08] <soundray> Troofy: so delete it from there and reboot
[20:08] <stefan__> -a+e
[20:08] <Ntemis> now i dont have window list
[20:08] <Ntemis> i have window selector
[20:08] <htgul> stefan__, Ok, thanks
[20:08] <Ntemis> is that that you mean?
[20:08] <Pici> Ntemis: Thats probably it, I'm trying to recall from memory
[20:09] <JohnnyHempseed> dragon2 what the name of the file it says it cant find
[20:09] <hunter__> guys i have got a driver for my webcam on the link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=320433&page=2 page 2, the last post. i have downloaded and untared it, but i don know how to install that one, can any one help plss
[20:09] <Ntemis> ok thanks
[20:09] <efirewic1> chaostheory: yes
[20:09] <dragon2> JohnnyHempseed: it can't find image because i have RUNTU, and image file called runtu.....
[20:09] <Troofy> soundray del from where?
[20:09] <Jowi> Ntemis, maybe they change the name for it, might be.
[20:09] <soundray> Troofy: /etc/bash.bashrc
[20:09] <Troofy> soundray ok
[20:10] <ChaosTheory> efirewic1, there are a few.
[20:10] <ChaosTheory> efirewic1, one second.
[20:10] <bk1979> efirewic1 - I unflagged NTFS for boot and still got the same error message when I went to browse the drive.  I'm wondering if it'll just be easier for me to take the drive out and throw it in the computer I'm currently using to get the files I need
[20:11] <Troofy> soundray thanks. it works now i gues. :)
[20:11] <ChaosTheory> efirewic1, volume.app
[20:11] <ChaosTheory> efirewic1, volumecontrol.app
[20:11] <efirewic1> bk1979: might be.
[20:11] <ChaosTheory> efirewic1, volumeid
[20:11] <soundray> Troofy: to check what the variable is currently set to, do a 'echo $http_proxy'
[20:11] <ChaosTheory> efirewic1, volumeid is green.
[20:12] <TimothyP> Hello, I want to use upstart to make modifications to files just after rc3 but before rc5 on ubuntu. I've created a script and when I use initcrl emit rc3 the blankfix script get's executed, but it does not seem to be executed when I actually reboot the system.
[20:12] <Troofy> soundray hmm. i got to learn linux commandline.... where can i make a start with fantastic tutorials?
[20:12] <soundray> !cli | Troofy
[20:12] <ubotu> Troofy: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[20:12] <TimothyP> (I'm also confused between the scripts in /etc/rc3.d for example and /etc/events.d
[20:13] <TimothyP> !upstart
[20:13] <ubotu> Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[20:13] <efirewic1> chaostheory: gnome volume manager
[20:13] <Troofy> soundray i though you would say tldp.og
[20:13] <Troofy> soundray i though you would say tldp.org
[20:13]  * TimothyP been there, done that
[20:13] <Ntemis> thanks for the help
[20:13] <sagredo> hi
[20:13] <sagredo> how can I see what sound devices are working
[20:14] <scott__> hi dose any know of a program that makes dvd slideshows with music
[20:14] <genii> hunter__: make sure build-essentials is installed. Then in the workver directory,: make; sudo make install; depmod -a
[20:14] <ChaosTheory> efirewic1, okay, I reinstalled.
[20:14] <ChaosTheory> efirewic1, should I restart?
[20:14] <nmdd> how to make live ubuntu @ flash key storage ?
[20:14] <efirewic1> chaostheory: I would reboot just to be safe
[20:15] <soundray> !install | nmdd, scroll down the install page for instructions
[20:15] <ubotu> nmdd, scroll down the install page for instructions: Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[20:15] <genii> hunter__: You should then be able to load it with:   sudo modprobe gspca
[20:15] <ChaosTheory> efirewic1, well, double-clicking on it right now gives me the same message.
[20:15] <hunter__> genii i am a newbie, could u help me with that stepwise pls
[20:15] <JohnnyHempseed> soundray thanks alot man
[20:15] <ChaosTheory> efirewic1, but I'll restart.
[20:15] <JohnnyHempseed> appreciate it dude =]
[20:15] <kium> can i get some help privately about the setup of ubunutu
[20:15] <soundray> JohnnyHempseed: yw. Logging off now. Good luck
[20:16] <obi-1> hello
[20:16] <obi-1> i need some help regarding a bash script
[20:16] <genii> hunter__: in terminal: sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install build-essential      Then in the workver directory,: make; sudo make install; depmod -a             Then: sudo modprobe gspca
[20:16] <prettyricky> how do I get rid of any icons such as my c: drive short cut on my desktop?
[20:16] <kium> can i get some help privately about the setup of ubunutu
[20:16] <hunter__> ok let me run the command
[20:17] <Troofy> how to know what distro or os iam using?
[20:17] <kium> guys please i need help
[20:17] <cdecarlo> prettyricky: ? c: drive?
[20:17] <iositd> kium, we're able to help you, and if needed i will do so by pm if you please explain why.
[20:18] <obi-1> i tryng to make a script that would output columns from a readed file.. but how can i make it NOT to reapeat output?
[20:18] <georgy_28> Troofy : cat  /etc/issue in a terminal
[20:18] <esteth> prettyricky: Launch gconf-editor from a terminal. Then go to apps > nautilus > desktop and unclick volumes_visible
[20:18] <hunter__> genii i have run the first 2 commands, could u tell me how can i go for the third step pls
[20:18] <kium> can i get some help privately about the setup of ubunutu ? please guys
[20:18] <prettyricky> ok thank you...
[20:18] <hischild> kium, please read when you're answered
[20:18] <mifritscher> hi
[20:18] <hischild> kium, we're able to help you, and if needed i will do so by pm if you please explain why.
[20:19] <genii> hunter__: The location of the workver directory will be wherever it is you un-tarred the file to.
[20:19] <kium> i have really special problem
[20:19] <hunter__> it is on the desktop, could u tell me the command for it pls
[20:19] <sagredo> Hi
[20:19] <kium> thats why i want to explain it privatly guys
[20:19] <sagredo> Hey everyone
[20:19] <sagredo> Question
[20:19] <nikitis> Is there a Linux Download manager for HTTP downlaods that can control how much bandwith you use?
[20:19] <hischild> kium, very well. You can pm me if you want me to assist you.
[20:19] <esteth> nikitis: I think kget has that feature, allthough i am not sure
[20:20] <sagredo> In Ubuntu, how can I see what sound devices are connected/functioning with the system
[20:20] <hischild> nikitis, i've been thinking about that. Take a look at wondershaper.
[20:20] <esteth> sagredo: lsof /dev/snd/* at a terminal
[20:20] <efirewic1> sagredo: if you open your volume control it will show you devices under "file"
[20:20] <genii> hunter__: cd ~/Desktop; tar -xvzf workver2.tar.gz ; cd workver; make;sudo make install;sudo depmod -a;sudo modprobe gspca
[20:20] <Stroganoff> nikitis: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=all&keywords=download+manager
[20:21] <JPRuskin> randomly: if GRUB is definately not working, is it worth installing LILO or elilo and should I be more scared of them as opposed to GRUB?
[20:21] <sagredo> efirewic1: how can I launch a volume control window?
[20:21] <esteth> sagredo: Ignore my previous reply, i misunderstood your question. That command will tell you which apps are using sound
[20:21] <hischild> JPRuskin, there's no reason to be scared of a different bootloader then grub. They're not default, that's all.
[20:21] <sagredo> esteth: Thank you for your help :)
[20:21] <hischild> kium, you have to be registered to pm. Are you registered?
[20:21] <efirewic1> ssagredo: esteth's suggest is better
[20:21] <hunter__> let me try
[20:22] <kium> 1 sec
[20:22] <esteth> efirewic1: That command won't work, as i mentioned in a follow up
[20:22] <kium> i will register
[20:22] <efirewic1> chaostheory: i guess not
[20:22] <efirewic1> sorry
[20:22] <Anthony> From your guys' past experience, which is the most enjoyable GUI for Ubuntu? I am loving the default (I think it is GNOME right?)
[20:22] <Anthony> I wanted sort of an OSX feel
[20:22] <sagredo> I used alsamixer in terminal
[20:22] <TimothyP> Anthony: I like gnome because indeed it feels like OSX, but also because it's not bloated
[20:22] <Cyborg> hi
[20:22] <esteth> Anthony: Dzen + Dmenu + xmonad is what i like, but that sort of talk really belongs in the chat channel, not the support channel
[20:22] <TimothyP> and because it offers great API's and plug points for developers
[20:22] <sagredo> but all the channels appear to be audible
[20:22] <efirewic1> esteth: good one, I just saw the command line and figured it would give more specific info... I should read more..
[20:22] <Cyborg> how can i see my kubuntu version with a command ?
[20:22] <Anthony> esteth: How would I reach that?
[20:23] <sagredo> my speakers are not playing anything though
[20:23] <Pici> Cyborg: lsb_release -a
[20:23] <Cyborg> 10x
[20:23] <tj13820> hello all, i have a Lacie 160gb Firewire HDD, i am trying to connect it with a 4 pin connecter, and power supply. It is my teachers, and it isn't working on the macs or windows at school, so i brought it to a linux distro
[20:23] <TimothyP> whereas KDE is rather bloated, not always stable and not as open to developers (unless you're a harcore C++ dev)
[20:23] <stefan__> Anthony: have a look at gnome-look.org. using compiz and some themes you can get osx-feeling.. sorta :)
[20:23] <tj13820> problem is, it won't mount or show on desktop
[20:23] <TimothyP> stefan_ , Anthony: yeah I got a complete mac os lookalike xfce desktop set up :p
[20:23] <tj13820> how do i check to see if it is recognized as installed, or available in ubuntu
[20:23] <Anthony> TimothyP: Really? May I see a screen shot?
[20:24] <Anthony> Also, maybe some instructions on how to recreate it :D
[20:24] <TimothyP> I'll do better than that, I'll find the link to the guide I used
[20:24] <TimothyP> hang on
[20:24] <Anthony> Neat :]
[20:24] <sagredo> I have both a motherboard jack and a sound card.
[20:24] <esteth> Anthony: I've forgotten the name of the channel, it might be #ubuntu-lounge, i'll check the site
[20:24] <sagredo> I've tried both jacks
[20:24] <sagredo> and cannot get sound out of either
[20:25] <sagredo> What gives?!
[20:25] <esteth> efirewic1: No problem, it's an easy mistake to make in such a busy channel
[20:25] <Anthony> sagredo: Do you have your sound drivers?
[20:25] <sagredo> Anthony: I'm not sure
[20:25] <Pici> esteth, Anthony: #ubuntu-offtopic is the non-support channel.
[20:25] <Anthony> Do you know what sound card you have?
[20:25] <Anthony> Thanks Pici :]
[20:25] <sagredo> Anthony: Yes, but it has worked on past installs of Ubuntu
[20:25] <hunter__> the last 2 commands din do anything ginii
[20:25] <TimothyP> this is the Vista version http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2008/02/10/design-your-own-desktop-with-xfce-44/
[20:25] <sagredo> Anthony: It's the Sound Blaster Audigy
[20:26] <Anthony> Have you checked to make sure you dont have any silly mistakes?
[20:26] <TimothyP> and this is the leopard version: http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2008/02/15/design-your-own-desktop-with-xfce-44-part-2/
[20:26] <Anthony> Suchas, muted volume.
[20:26] <esteth> sagredo: Perhaps the sound chanel has been muted. launch alsamixer and make sure nothing is muted
[20:26] <Anthony> Oh, very nice!
[20:26] <Anthony> Thank you TimothyP!
[20:26] <sagredo> esteth: did that
[20:26] <TimothyP> np :)
[20:26] <sagredo> any other ideas?
[20:26] <sami> Anyone here any good a preseeding?
[20:26] <esteth> sagredo: unfortunately not :(
[20:26] <CShadowRun> Hmm, weird problem... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSjkTOLCMA4 (only 19 seconds long)
[20:26] <JPRuskin> hischild: Thanks, man. Works! Finally got a login screen.
[20:27] <sagredo> bummer
[20:27] <CShadowRun> I don't think anyone would belive me without the video, haha
[20:27] <CShadowRun> It's totally...totally weird.
[20:27]  * TimothyP is looking at it
[20:27] <efirewic1> sagredo: what devices show up for your sound in the volume app
[20:27] <efirewic1> ?
[20:27] <TimothyP> CShadowRun what is the problem then?
[20:27] <hischild> JPRuskin, good :-)
[20:27] <hunter__> gini the last two commands din do anything,
[20:28] <TimothyP> btw use a screencast tool :)
[20:28] <hunter__> is that alright?
[20:28] <CShadowRun> as you see, no fire = massive lag
[20:28] <CShadowRun> switch a bit of fire on? everything runs fine
[20:28] <TimothyP> hmmm
[20:28] <Troofy> georgy_28 thanks
[20:28] <Troofy> need help with wine. http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/8659/snapshot1wt8.pngX
[20:28] <CShadowRun> you'd expect it to be the other way around considering...lol
[20:28] <genii> hunter__: If no output from those last 2 commands then thats fine. If fails then a message occurs. Please use my name genii when messaging, or else I lose your replies to me easily
[20:28] <CShadowRun> "in ubuntu, you do more stuff, your computer gets faster! xD"
[20:28] <dhaval> hmm. where is the ubuntu developers channel?
[20:28] <Troofy> need help with wine. http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/8659/snapshot1wt8.png
[20:28] <CShadowRun> lol
[20:29] <ChaosTheory> Every time I reboot, the Ubuntu bar gets stuck after just a little bit, unless I press the shutdown button once.
[20:29] <ChaosTheory> then, it starts to load.
[20:29] <ChaosTheory> But, I lose my internet connection and I have to reinstall ndiswrapper each time.
[20:30] <efirewic1> chaostheory: but how's the sound?
[20:30] <genii> hunter__: Try to use some application which should need the camera now and see if it can.
[20:30] <ChaosTheory> efirewic1, not fixed.
[20:30] <JohnnyHempseed> is there a channel that offers help with secure shell only?
[20:30] <esteth> Troofy: Is that when you try to launch wine?
[20:30] <takazuka> Need help for Graphics Card driver ATI RADEON x1950 pro
[20:30] <Troofy> esteth when i want to configure wine. and now its not lauching any app too
[20:31] <slash_8787> hi!
[20:31] <efirewic1> chaostheory: this should help with the sound and the other problems as well... Kind of a last resort, but should fix everything... http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-602959.html
[20:31] <Anthony> TimothyP: Can I just run sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator awn-manager
[20:31] <Anthony> ?
[20:31] <Lamego> Troofy, I hope you are not trying to get your hw to work with wine...
[20:31] <Anthony> Instead of using the GUI?
[20:31] <hunter__> genii, sorry i am not able to send u pvt message,
[20:31] <esteth> Troofy: You could perhaps try to install a new version of wine using the ubuntu .deb from winehq
[20:31] <TimothyP> Anthony , I think you can, but only if you have the correct repository in /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:31] <hunter__> genii i get the webcamviever on my application list now, when i open that one i get an error message
[20:31] <Anthony> Thats a problem since I can't find the repository URL :P
[20:32] <ChaosTheory> efirewic1, I *really* don't want to reinstall. =(
[20:32] <TimothyP> oh
[20:32] <TimothyP> doesn't the guide say?
[20:32] <genii> hunter__: To send private messages you need to be registered on the freenode irc system.
[20:32] <TimothyP> (been ages since I did that)
[20:32] <ChaosTheory> efirewic1, I've already reinstalled twice.
[20:32] <Troofy> Lamego no.
[20:32] <hischild> Anthony, go to the wine site, then select download, then ubuntu, and follow the onscreen instructions :-)
[20:32] <efirewic1> chaostheory: really? are you doing anything that might cause problems?
[20:32] <Anthony> Nevermind, got it.
[20:32] <Troofy> esteth i just did. and it was working fine when i tried to change the paths where wine can ready a .exe
[20:32] <ChaosTheory> efirewic1, I don't think so.
[20:33] <ChaosTheory> efirewic1, the second time I didn't really need to reinstall.
[20:33] <TimothyP> :)
[20:33] <ChaosTheory> efirewic1, the first time, to.
[20:33] <ChaosTheory> *too
[20:33] <hunter__> genii error message is like this could not connect to  vedio device (/dev/vedio0) please check connection
[20:33] <slash_8787> please, i have a problem with my usb pen drive, the system dont read it.......do you can help me??
[20:33] <ChaosTheory> efirewic1, both times I could have fixed it by just doing some extra stuff.
[20:33] <takazuka> Need help for Graphics Card driver ATI RADEON x1950 pro
[20:33] <sami> Anyone here any good a preseeding? I'v got an preseed that does an unattended install. But it doesn't work unless it's plugged in to the net, it has to verify the apt sources.
[20:34] <sagredo> Hi
[20:34] <sagredo> How can I expand the default 2 workstations to 4 or more?
[20:34] <Troofy> esteth whats wrong
[20:34] <Troofy> Lamego ?
[20:34] <Odd-rationale> sagredo: rightclick and select preferences
[20:34] <esteth> Troofy: then i'm not sure. Maybe you could purge (sudo apt-get purge wine) and reinstall. Failing that i'm not sure
[20:35] <Lamego> Troofy, I am not following you thread, sorry
[20:35] <Troofy> esteth ok
[20:35] <Troofy> second problem.
[20:35] <Troofy> dpkg: error processing heimdal-kdc (--configure):
[20:35] <Troofy>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[20:35] <Troofy> Errors were encountered while processing:
[20:35] <Troofy>  heimdal-kdc
[20:35] <Troofy> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[20:35] <FloodBot1> Troofy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:35] <Odd-rationale> sagredo: right-click the workspace switcher that is...
[20:35] <efirewic1> chaostheory: I don't know. I haven't ever had to reinstall..
[20:35] <slash_8787> there is someboby that help me? please
[20:35] <pygmymath> Yo all, anyone had experience with using a new 9 series nvidia card?
[20:36] <genii> hunter__: Sorry then. Perhaps you require some other driver than the one which you just compiled. Or there can be another issue. But webcams are not my area of expertise
[20:36] <ChaosTheory> efirewic1, I'll leave sound alone for now.
[20:36] <sagredo> Odd-rationale: got it, ty
[20:36] <Odd-rationale> sagredo: np
[20:36] <chetnick> hi guys, i cant get my browser to work with some web sites .... i think it might be something with teh flash plugin ... when i go lets say to this site http://www.tncc.edu the navigation bar on the left supose to expland, but it want do it for me... any ideas what it can be?
[20:36] <hunter__> thanks genii, thanks a lot for the help
[20:36] <chetnick> expand* , wont*
[20:37] <unocrash> hey
[20:37] <genii> sami: If the machine they are netbooting from has apache, then make in the preseed file that ip for the repository and then loop-mount the alternate cdrom to someplace under /var/www where it can be accessed
[20:37]  * Troofy waits for help
[20:37] <efirewic1> chaostheory: if you check out that link I sent, someone just used a generic kernel and everything is ok...
[20:37] <ChaosTheory> efirewic1, I don't know what a "generic kernel" is.
[20:38] <ChaosTheory> efirewic1, in any case, I need to transfer some files now.
[20:38] <unocrash> !patience | ***Troofy
[20:38] <ubotu> ***Troofy: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[20:38] <scott__> dose anyone use qdvdauthor to make slide shows
[20:38] <pygmymath> be back later heh.
[20:38] <Troofy> unocrash ok
[20:38] <unocrash> Troofy: what's your question?
[20:39] <Troofy> unocrash i just pasted an error
[20:39] <Troofy> dpkg: error processing heimdal-kdc (--configure):  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1  Errors were encountered while processing: heimdal-kdc
[20:39] <Troofy> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[20:39] <Troofy> unocrash i was dling some apps
[20:39] <Lamego> Troofy, have you tried to remove the package ?
[20:39] <unocrash> Troofy: Can you put that all in pastebin?
[20:39] <dalek_> ndiswrapper not working with my wireless card.... need help
[20:40] <Survivorman> !paste | Troofy
[20:40] <ubotu> Troofy: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[20:40] <Troofy> unocrash thats the full error. Lamego i just type  sudo apt-get install libcurl4-openssl-dev libpcre3-dev liblua5.1-sql-mysql-dev pike7.6-mysql libmysqlclient15-dev libpq-dev libgnutls-dev   
[20:40] <Troofy> and got this
[20:40] <razorback> Anyone know of any way to convert video clips to dv format to use on Kino
[20:40] <Troofy> dpkg: error processing heimdal-kdc (--configure):  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1  Errors were encountered while processing: heimdal-kdc
[20:40] <Troofy> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)-
[20:40] <Lamego> Troofy, sudo apt-get remove heimdal-kdc
[20:40] <Troofy> Lamego ok
[20:40] <sami> genii: It's not going to be plugged in to the net while doing it.
[20:41] <Lamego> Troofy, why do you need thos -deve packages ? What are you looking for ?
[20:41] <razorback> Anyone know of any way to convert video clips to dv format to use on Kino
[20:41] <realmccoy> lmccoy
[20:41] <magnetron> razorback: ffmpeg, perhaps. install it with synaptic.
[20:41] <Stroganoff> checking "ps axl", if got a process running namend "-:0", status "wait", 5mb memory size. any idea what this could be?
[20:41] <razorback> ok thanks
[20:41] <amenado> sami-> then why do you have your preseed config to verify the source?
[20:41] <Stroganoff> i've got..
[20:41] <georgy_28> razorback, : try kdenlive, i thing this app can handle it
[20:41] <dalek_> damn dell and their propreitary BS wireless drivers. fak them
[20:41] <Lamego> StoneNewt, you mean "named" ?
[20:41] <realmccoy> how do you delete and reinstall compize manager
[20:42] <unocrash> dalek_: ummmm.... you ok?
[20:42] <dalek_> :( no
[20:42] <takazuka> god damn it can I get one fucking question answered or not
[20:42] <unocrash> dalek: what's the problem  :
[20:42] <Lamego> takazuka, language !
[20:42] <Troofy> Lamego well. i removed it. then again typed the isntalling pkgs. now its fine. ( these are dependancies for inspircd. iam going to make an ircd . i mean using inspircd to make anetwork)
[20:42] <sami> amenado: I don't have it to verify the source. Debian-installer is made that way, it automaticlly verifies sources.list to chech if it's correct. If not the install stops and asks for a diffrent mirror.
[20:43] <crdlb> realmccoy: you mean ccsm? what's wrong with it?
[20:43] <dalek_> I cna't get the dell wireless broadcom 4328 driver to load for the life of me. I've tried fwcutter, ndiswrapper. Don't see it in restricted device manager, don't see it as an option on my network icon, and it shows unclaimed
[20:43] <sagredo> hi
[20:43] <Lamego> Troofy, have you checked if there is an inspircd package on the repositories ?
[20:43] <takazuka> I've been waiting for an answer there is no : no i don't know or yes there is
[20:43] <sagredo> how can I force a window to close?
[20:43] <sagredo> if it will not close from "x"ing out
[20:43] <Troofy> Lamego there isnt
[20:43] <unocrash> !patience | takazuka
[20:43] <ubotu> takazuka: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[20:43] <Lamego> takazuka, we are volunteers and we do not have all the answers, if you dont like it, leave please
[20:43] <kindofabuzz> takazuka: what's the question?
[20:43] <Troofy> Lamego i comlain that ubuntu do not update good. wine is 46 in repos. the latest is 48
[20:44] <takazuka> thanks Kindo
[20:44] <razorback> georgy_28 willl try also
[20:44] <takazuka> Need help for Graphics Card driver ATI RADEON x1950 pro
[20:44] <amenado> sami then knowing that the debian-installer does those things, and you dont have your system connected to a network to perform such function, then why do you expect it to work?
[20:44] <Lamego> Troofy, ok
[20:44] <unocrash> dalek_: And you have Ubuntu (6.06/7.04/7.10)? or what?
[20:44] <kindofabuzz> not my forte
[20:44] <dalek_> 7.10
[20:44] <boggystudios> I need an RSS generator to produce and RSS file from a text file or something similar.  Does any one here know of a simple solution?
[20:44] <takazuka> k
[20:44] <takazuka> thx
[20:44] <Troofy> Lamego when is the next version of ubuntu comeing?
[20:44] <efirewic1> dalek_: this link helped me alot https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsDell
[20:44] <unocrash> Troffy: 21 days
[20:44] <dalek_> unocrash, I think I've googled everything
[20:45] <dalek_> cool, let me check it out
[20:45] <unocrash> Troofy: 21 days. You can download the beta. I'm running right now.
[20:45] <Survivorman> Troofy, just because I program is the latest does not mean it's the best or most stable. Getting into a distro requires some testing and fine tuning.
[20:45] <sami> amenado: I'm asking if there is such a sulution. To not having d-i to autocheck if sources.list is correct
[20:45] <Survivorman> *a
[20:45] <lionroar> hi - can i somehow run xdm inside xnest? do i need to use XDMCP on localhost for this? i know its an odd request
[20:45] <sculework> Stroganoff: appears to be kdm
[20:45] <dwad> where other than \user\share\fonts could I have hebrew fonts on my machine?
[20:45] <Stroganoff> sculework i dont have kdm installed
[20:45] <sami> amenado: Have you ever made a preseed?
[20:45] <chetnick> how to remove shockwave flash plugin from firefox
[20:45] <chetnick> ?
[20:46] <amenado> sami-> nope not created my own, only copied
[20:46] <Troofy> unocrash Survivorman usualy latest is better.
[20:46] <unocrash> Dalek_: What's your OS Release Number? e.g. Ubuntu 7.10
[20:46] <dalek_> ahhh I've been to that link
[20:46] <Troofy> unocrash is it going fine?
[20:46] <sculework> Stroganoff: gdm then, if you go to /proc/<pid of process>/ and the sudo cat stat you will get a better idea
[20:46] <sami> amenado: Then you might know the "power" of it, so to say.
[20:46] <Troofy> unocrash can you check that it has a inspircd app in the repos?
[20:46] <unocrash> Troofy: a few bugs. It's good.
[20:46] <jPratt> Ok is there any P2P's for Ubuntu?
[20:46] <efirewic1> dalek_: and still no help?
[20:46] <Troofy> unocrash you mean it has some bugs?
[20:46] <cdecarlo> looking for help with my crontab, I thought set it up correctly but it doesn't seem to be running
[20:47] <dalek_> no, my device doesn't show up in restriceted devices manager
[20:47] <amenado> sami yes, but not in-depth
[20:47] <danand_> dwad - /home/username/.fonts
[20:47] <efirewic1> dalek_: what is your card exactly?
[20:47] <ChaosTheory> NO!
[20:47] <ChaosTheory> My flash drive died. . . :(
[20:47] <ChaosTheory> It served me well. . .
[20:47] <Survivorman> jPratt, there is frostwire or limewire, amule, nicotine, and more
[20:47] <cdecarlo> is there any debian/ubuntu specific voodo I need to use?
[20:47] <dalek_>  Broadcom Corporation BCM4328 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 03)
[20:47] <unocrash> Troofy: bugs. Things needed to be fixed
[20:47] <Stroganoff> sculework, thanks for the tip, its xdm ^^
[20:47] <lux0815> how can i deactivate pulseaudio and use esd in hardy?
[20:47] <ChaosTheory> dalek_: Do you want to install ndiswrapper?
[20:47] <Troofy> unocrash you mean you have observed some bugs?
[20:48] <Troofy> unocrash can you check that it has a inspircd app in the repos?
[20:48] <jPratt> Well i got frostwire and installed it but its not there
[20:48] <unocrash> What's your OS Release Number? e.g. Ubuntu 7.10
[20:48] <dalek_> I installed 1.9
[20:48] <sculework> Stroganoff: np, you are welcome /proc/<pid> is kind of fun :)
[20:48] <ChaosTheory> dalek_: You have it installed?
[20:48] <dalek_> uno, 7.10
[20:48] <Survivorman> lux0815, #ubuntu+1 handes hardy issues
[20:48] <ChaosTheory> dalek_: Do you have the drivers bm4328?
[20:48] <dalek_> yes I do chaos, and I donwloaded the latest windows driver for it
[20:48] <ChaosTheory> dalek_: What's wrong, then?
[20:48] <ChaosTheory> dalek_: Go to the folder with the drivers.
[20:48] <dalek_> I do the ndiswrapper commands and still no wireless shows up
[20:48] <unocrash> Troofy: Idk? what's the inspircd?
[20:48] <ChaosTheory> dalek_: ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf
[20:48] <dalek_> ok, I'm there
[20:49] <ChaosTheory> dalek_: Then, do ndiswrapper -l to check that the driver is installed properly.
[20:49] <dalek_> root@dalek-laptop:/driver/DRIVER_US# ndiswrapper -i bcmwl6.inf
[20:49] <dalek_> driver bcmwl6 is already installed
[20:49] <Troofy> unicum is irc daemon like freenode uses hyperion. can you just check it out.?
[20:49] <ChaosTheory> dalek_: Do ndiswrapper -l
[20:49] <Starnestommy> Troofy: inspircd is not in the repositories
[20:49] <dalek_> root@dalek-laptop:/driver/DRIVER_US# ndiswrapper -l
[20:49] <dalek_> bcmwl6 : driver installed
[20:49] <dalek_>         device (14E4:4328) present
[20:49] <ChaosTheory> dalek_: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[20:49] <jaffarkelshac> how do i stop my numpad from moving my mouse
[20:50] <Troofy> Starnestommy you enabled all repos?
[20:50] <dalek_> ok did it
[20:50] <ChaosTheory> dalek_: Check now.
[20:50] <unocrash> jaffarkelshac: What's your Ubuntu Version?
[20:50] <dalek_> still only "Wirde Network" as an option
[20:50] <Starnestommy> Troofy: yes.  You'll need to download it from their website and compile it from source if you want it
[20:50] <ChaosTheory> dalek_, output of sudo modprobe ndiswrapper?
[20:50] <dwad> danand_: thanks, anywhere else?
[20:50] <dalek_> there was no output
[20:51] <jaffarkelshac> hardy
[20:51] <ChaosTheory> dalek_: Okay, that's good.
[20:51] <TimothyP> anybody here any good with upstart?
[20:51] <Troofy> Starnestommy i was told that it will be available in the next ubuntu release in repos
[20:51] <Dflamingo> I can't seem to use download torrents in ubuntu
[20:51] <danand_> dwad - np ... and not that i know of ...
[20:51] <Dflamingo> all the ports are blocked
[20:51] <jadedoto> What card are you tring to get to work in hardy?
[20:51] <Starnestommy> Troofy: ask someone in #ubuntu+1 since that channel's the one for 8.04
[20:51] <dalek_> I read somewhere that my device being "UNCLAIMED" was bad
[20:51] <jadedoto> I had problems with mine and went back to gusty and it's working fine
[20:51] <dalek_> I forgot the command that showed me that
[20:51] <Dflamingo> how do I open ports on ubuntu?
[20:52] <ChaosTheory> dalek_: hm.
[20:52] <Troofy> Starnestommy k
[20:52] <dalek_> lcw...
[20:52] <ChaosTheory> dalek_: I'm a total N00B, to be honest.
[20:52] <dalek_> can't remember
[20:52] <Lamego> Dflamingo, you dont open ports, you run services, there is no firewall blocking ports on Ubuntu, by default
[20:52] <ChaosTheory> dalek_: What's your card again?
[20:52] <ChaosTheory> dalek_: I think you've got the wrong driver installed.
[20:52] <lionroar> hi - can i somehow run xdm inside xnest? do i need to use XDMCP on localhost for this? i know its an odd request
[20:52] <ChaosTheory> dalek_: I think it should be bcmwl5.inf, not bcmwl6.inf.
[20:52] <fxfitz> I'm using Ubuntu on a laptop, and whenever my laptop is idle for ten minutes (like when I'm watching a movie), the screen turns blank. I have turned off all my screensavers, but the problem persists. Can anyone help?
[20:52] <kindofabuzz> Dflamingo: open the ports on your router
[20:52] <efirewic1> dalek_:  run iwconfig. what is the card listed as?
[20:52] <ChaosTheory> dalek: It's Broadcom 4328, right?
[20:52] <Dflamingo> Lamego, I don't understand, when I try to download a torrent nothing works
[20:52] <dalek_> iwconfig
[20:52] <Dflamingo> it doesn't download
[20:52] <dalek_> oops
[20:52] <jadedoto> Hah!
[20:53] <jadedoto> I couldn't get the broadcom to work in hardy
[20:53] <dalek_> doesn't even list it
[20:53] <jadedoto> but have you tried fwcutter?
[20:53] <dalek_> chaos, correct
[20:53] <dalek_> fwcutter didn't work either or I did it wrong
[20:53] <jadedoto> Strange
[20:53] <ChaosTheory> dalek_: Okay, I want you to try the bcm4328 file.
[20:53] <Dflamingo> and it used to work fine on windows vista, problem only started when I converted to ubuntu
[20:53] <esteth> Dflamingo: try opening gnome-btdownload and opening the .torrent with it
[20:53] <Dflamingo> Okay.
[20:53] <ChaosTheory> dalek_: Or is that the name of the file you used?
[20:53] <kindofabuzz> i gave up on getting broadcom to work in Hardy, went back to gutsy
[20:53] <danand_> dalek_ - now that you have your kernel module installed perhaps you could try restarting networking to see if that helps - sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart. Be aware this might reset any current connections you have running. also check the output of lsmod | grep ndiswrapper
[20:53] <jadedoto> kindofabuzz: me too
[20:54] <sculework> fxfitz: the movie playback application should have that option in there somewhere
[20:54] <sculework> disable screen blanking or such
[20:54] <fxfitz> sculework, But it's not JUST movies. Like even if I leave my laptop idle (not doing anything), the screen turns blank, and I do not want that to happen
[20:54] <sculework> power management
[20:54] <jadedoto> fx: have you looked in power management?
[20:55] <TCMC2010> anyone knows why update-grub don't see my /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-14-xen kernel ?!
[20:55] <dalek_> root@dalek-laptop:/driver/DRIVER_US# lsmod | grep ndiswrapper
[20:55] <dalek_> ndiswrapper           185240  0
[20:55] <dalek_> usbcore               138632  7 usbhid,hci_usb,ndiswrapper,uvcvideo,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd
[20:55] <kindofabuzz> fxfitz: screen savers > power management
[20:55] <dalek_> restarted services and nothing still
[20:55] <danand_> :(
[20:55] <ChaosTheory> dalek_: What's the name of the file where you got your drivers?
[20:55] <dalek_> I got the latest ones from dell
[20:55] <dalek_> one sec
[20:55] <fxfitz> Yes, I've set that. When its on AC and Batter power, I have everything set to Never.
[20:55] <sagredo> okay
[20:55] <sagredo> where's the sound guru
[20:56] <dalek_> Dell_multi-device_A17_R174292
[20:56] <sagredo> I cannot get, for the life of me, my sound to play
[20:56] <ChaosTheory> dalek_: That's the name of the file?
[20:56] <dalek_> it's the Dell 1505 Wireless N card
[20:56] <dalek_> Dell_multi-device_A17_R174292.exe
[20:56] <danand_> fxfitz - have you checked the power management settings in the bios?
[20:56] <jadedoto> dalek: Are the drvers that you got actually letting you install them in ndis? Whn i tried to do it a few days ago in hardy, it gave me an error that the INFs were invalid...
[20:56] <ChaosTheory> dalek_: Oh, not Broadcom? I thought you said it was Broadcom somewhere?
[20:56] <ChaosTheory> dalek_: In any case, what's in the file?
[20:56] <dalek_> jade, nope. it let me install them
[20:56] <fxfitz> danand_, No, I have not, but I don't have this problem in Windows which leads me to believe it's not the BIOS
[20:57] <dalek_> chaos, it's broadcom 4328 chipset
[20:57] <Dflamingo> when I try to use synaptic to install gnome-btdownload the only options I can check are reinstall and remove
[20:57] <ChaosTheory> dalek_: Okay.
[20:57] <dalek_> bcmwl6.inf is the file I used, I think bcmwl5.inf is the older driver. not sure how to get that one
[20:57] <ChaosTheory> dalek_: One second.
[20:57] <theunixgeek> What theme is used in the screenshots here? http://www.haskell.org/gtk2hs/docs/tutorial/glade/
[20:57] <kindofabuzz> Dflamingo: get Deluge
[20:57] <Dflamingo> deluge?
[20:57] <Dflamingo> Whats that?
[20:58] <efirewic1> dalek_: I know you did most of this, but I would start over and just go through it again... maybe you missed something... http://www.micahcarrick.com/11-04-2007/ubuntu-d830-install-notes.html#4
[20:58] <kindofabuzz> a toreent client
[20:58] <Lamego> djennewe, it's a bittorrent client
[20:58] <kindofabuzz> torrent
[20:58] <Lamego> ops, was DFlame
[20:58] <Lamego> erm, Dflamingo
[20:58] <Dflamingo> ooh, but I already have an inbuilt torrent thing on ubuntu rught?
[20:58] <Dflamingo> and yes lamego?
[20:58] <kindofabuzz> yeah but you said you can't see it right?
[20:58] <dalek_> efire, thart's the exact tutorial I used. but not that driver. let me try that one
[20:59] <Lamego> Dflamingo, do you get any error message ?
[20:59] <jPratt> I installed Frostwire and i click the shortcut and it doesnt do anything
[20:59] <efirewic1> dalek_: good luck
[20:59] <Dflamingo> yes, when I try to download a torrent it says timed out after like 1 - 2 mins
[20:59] <kindofabuzz> jPratt: got java installed?
[20:59] <Lamego> jPratt, try to run it from the terminal, it usually provides some clue why it is not running
[20:59] <dalek_> thx, I don't want to use vista. :(
[20:59] <Dflamingo> unable to connect to tracker
[20:59] <ChaosTheory> dalek_: I'm not sure if I can transfer you files through here.
[20:59] <ChaosTheory> dalek_: Do you have an AIM?
[20:59] <dalek_> chaos, I'm downloading the older one right now off efires link
[20:59] <Lamego> Dflamingo, do you have network connectivity with other applications ?
[20:59] <kindofabuzz> Dfalmingo, either the tracker is down or your port isn't opne
[20:59] <ChaosTheory> dalek_: Okay, great.
[20:59] <jPratt> How would i run it from the terminal
[20:59] <Troofy> if i uninstall wine. ill loose all programs installed by it?
[20:59] <Dflamingo> it just sits at 0%, and I can't download anything off torrents
[21:00] <Dflamingo> Yes
[21:00] <Dflamingo> I'm surfing the internet right now
[21:00] <Dflamingo> I just can't DL torrents
[21:00] <dalek_> I'll let you know in about 3 mins if it works
[21:00] <Lamego> have you tried other torrents ?
[21:00] <darko> i need help with a mysql installation
[21:00] <kindofabuzz> Dflamingo: is it even being seeded?
[21:00] <Dflamingo> Other torrents?
[21:00] <Dflamingo> Yes
[21:00] <ChaosTheory> dalek_: Okay, great.
[21:00] <sculework> Troofy: you shouldn't, if wine_c is in home apt won't touch it
[21:00] <darko> anybody
[21:00] <kindofabuzz> Dflamingo: try Deluge
[21:00] <Dflamingo> I think it's because my ports are blocked or something
[21:00] <Lamego> darko, what is your problem ?
[21:01] <Dflamingo> deluge? It's another torrent right?
[21:01] <Survivorman> dalek_, here is a link to a forum with someone with trouble with the same chipset and with eventual success in getting it to work: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-336654.html
[21:01] <sculework> yes
[21:01] <Dflamingo> but what if my ports are blocked?
[21:01] <Troofy> sculework even if i apt-get remove --purge wine?
[21:01] <kindofabuzz> Deluge had UpnP that will open a port automaticlly
[21:01] <Dflamingo> oooh
[21:01] <Dflamingo> okay
[21:01] <scott__> i guess no one knows  any thing about qdvdauthor  ha thats to bad i thout this was the way to get some help but it seems not. i get no reply every time ask for help
[21:01] <Dflamingo> so I type deluge in synaptic?
[21:01] <jPratt> how do i run Frostwire from the Terminal
[21:01] <dalek_> I've read that too, but thanks. lol
[21:01] <sculework> Troofy: I am sure --purge is for system files. not /home which is sacrosanct in the systems eyes really
[21:01] <kindofabuzz> or you can turn that off and set your own and open it in your firewall and/or router
[21:01] <dalek_> oh, dl complete
[21:02] <Lamego> scott__, if you dont get an answer, its because no knows about your specific question, and there is no point on complaining about it, thanks
[21:02] <jadedoto> And here is something, pertaining to gentoo, but doe s astep by step including links, you may try if the others don't: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Broadcom_4328
[21:02] <Troofy> sculework ok
[21:02] <dalek_> do I need to unload the old wrapper before I do this?
[21:02] <darko> Lamego, i'm getting this error msg everytime i try to run mysql in the command prompt: ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[21:02] <kindofabuzz> scott__: this in not for software support, try that apps forums
[21:02] <Dflamingo> Downloading Deluge
[21:02] <Lamego> darko, it looks like mysql is not running
[21:03] <Lamego> darko, have you started it ?
[21:03] <Cpudan80> When is hardy due out?
[21:03] <darko> there's no mysqld directory in /var/run/
[21:03] <dalek_> efire/chaos, should I remove the old ndiswrapper before I do this one with the new driver
[21:03] <Survivorman> april 24
[21:03] <Cpudan80> April.........?
[21:03] <Cpudan80> k thx
[21:03] <darko> ???
[21:03] <kindofabuzz> dalek_: are you doing gutsy or hardy?
[21:03] <dalek_> gutsy
[21:03] <Lamego> darko, how did you install it ?
[21:03] <darko> what do u mean run it???
[21:03] <kindofabuzz> dalek_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Gutsy
[21:03] <jPratt> How do i open Frostwire from the Terminal
[21:04] <darko> from synaptic package manager
[21:04] <Lamego> darko, have you install the mysql server in the first place ?
[21:04] <Survivorman> jPratt, type frostwire
[21:04] <efirewic1> dalek_: I read somewhere you should remove all previous ndis
[21:04] <Lamego> I mean the server, not the client
[21:04] <Troofy>  strange. i just removed wine. and iam still runing a wine app
[21:04] <darko> yeah, i installed it from synaptic package manager
[21:04] <dalek_> thx kind, I tried fwcutter and the offline one. my card won't show up in restricted device manager
[21:04] <kindofabuzz> that link is all he needs, works fine in gutsy for bradcom
[21:04] <sculework>  /etc/init.d/mysql start
[21:04] <Lamego> darko, sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[21:04] <kindofabuzz> you sure it works?
[21:05] <sculework> oh yeah, sudo ...
[21:05] <Makdaam> hello
[21:05]  * sculework waves
[21:05] <darko> sudo: /etc/init.d/mysql: command not found
[21:05] <scott__> thank you at least now i know that you here me
[21:05] <dalek_> yeah, it works with the default vista load
[21:05] <theunixgeek> Was #ubuntu-offtopic removed?
[21:05] <dalek_> my wifi light is on so it's on
[21:05] <theunixgeek> I keep getting redirected to #ubuntu-ops
[21:05] <sculework> theunixgeek: no
[21:05] <kindofabuzz> dalek_: what is the actual card? a linksys?
[21:05] <dalek_> dell 1505
[21:06] <sculework> theunixgeek: you are ban forwarded
[21:06] <darko> Lamego, i got sudo: /etc/init.d/mysql: command not found
[21:06] <dalek_> came with the M1530
[21:06] <theunixgeek> sculework: oh
[21:06] <genii> sami: You are unattended install with preseed, installing from cdrom? If so then a line as:  d-i mirror/cdrom string            will preempt it from looking outward for apt. You may also tho need something like: base-config     apt-setup/uri_type      select cdrom                                   as well
[21:06] <theunixgeek> sculework: why?
[21:06] <Lamego> darko, mysql-server is not installed on your system
[21:06] <kindofabuzz> dell makes cards?
[21:06] <ChaosTheory> dalek_: Oh, sorry.
[21:06] <ChaosTheory> dalek_: Do you have the ndiswrapper-1.52 or whatever still?
[21:06] <ChaosTheory> dalek_: The original .tar.gz file. I want to try it from scratch.
[21:06] <sculework> theunixgeek: they want to talk to you I guess, and I don't know why, go ask them, they are OK, don't shout at them though ;)
[21:06] <darko> but i did install it from that package manager??
[21:06] <scuderia> hi, how can i mount a virtual host in ubuntu ? using samba?
[21:06] <Lamego> darko, sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[21:06] <kindofabuzz> dalek_: so you already did https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Gutsy?
[21:06] <Lamego> darko, don't ask me, but you did not
[21:07] <dalek_> kind, yes
[21:07] <kindofabuzz> ok
[21:07] <Lamego> you are missing the mysql base scripts and directories
[21:07] <darko> lmao, ok that's embarrassing
[21:07] <kindofabuzz> dalek_: did you ever check the firmware to in use in restricted drivers?
[21:08] <Lamego> darko, eventually you didn't answered to the mysql root passwd question, and the install was incomplete
[21:08] <Makdaam> anywone had any experience with running timidity under jack? :) lots of posts on the forums but none have the solution :/ and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=252237 is the closets to my situation except it didn't start working magically yet :/
[21:08] <dalek_> it doesn't show up in restricted drivers manager
[21:08] <kindofabuzz> oh
[21:08] <kindofabuzz> =)
[21:08] <jPratt> OMG thank you Rnbabe
[21:08] <jPratt> Woops
[21:08] <kindofabuzz> then you didn't do something right =)
[21:08] <jPratt> Wrong window
[21:08] <darko> kk thanks, i'm guna install it now
[21:08] <kindofabuzz> lol Rnbabe
[21:08] <CareBeary> hi guys
[21:08] <scuderia> im using samba to access my virtual host OS (vmware), is there any possibility to mount it?
[21:09] <Lamego> scuderia, yes
[21:09] <squee> scuderia, install smbfs
[21:09] <CareBeary> im trying to install ubuntu 7.10 but it gives me a APIC error
[21:09] <michi> hi ;)
[21:10] <toowoe[tryme]> hi
[21:10] <arooni> what does a load really mean?  how can load ever exceed 1?  what is a good/ok/bad load?
[21:11] <CareBeary> anyone?
[21:12] <dalek_> I'm thinking I should reinstall
[21:12] <scuderia> squee: and them do mount -t smbfs //host ?
[21:13] <squee> scuderia, pretty much
[21:13] <jkonami> hey guys.  so I have an ati card, and i've gotten it to half work, but I started messing with it because full screen video was choppy.. compiz worked, other stuff.. installed ati binaries then everything seemed slow responsiveness-wise.. so whats the best thing to do?  right now it defaulted to vesa but I have xorg.conf backups that sorta-kinda worked
[21:14] <rwycuff> johannix :any luck
[21:14] <jkonami> I want perfectly working ati drivers if possible.. fullscreen video smooth, compiz, everything
[21:15] <efirewick> jkonami: what is the model video card?
[21:15] <Lamego> jkonami, ask to ATI :)
[21:15] <jkonami> efirewick: firegl 3100
[21:15] <rwycuff> jkonami: the best you will get is to use the ones from the ati site and even then i say get an nvidia card
[21:15] <jkonami> Lamego: I don't need perfect drivers persay, just whatever the best thing to do currently is
[21:16] <lionroar> hi - can i somehow run xdm inside xnest? do i need to use XDMCP on localhost for this? i know its an odd request
[21:16] <dalek_> *-network UNCLAIMED
[21:16] <dalek_>        description: Network controller
[21:16] <dalek_>        product: BCM4328 802.11a/b/g/n
[21:16] <dalek_>        vendor: Broadcom Corporation
[21:16] <dalek_> check that out
[21:16] <FloodBot1> dalek_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:17] <jkonami> so have any of you used ati's "installer?"  I did and it works, but I can't seem to revert to the ubuntu version of the driver.. the restricted drivers manager isn't very in depth and just accepts any ati binary driver
[21:17] <Survivorman> I have ati and just used the restricted driver in ubuntu and installed xgl. it was the only way I could get compiz working smoothly.
[21:18] <CareBeary> Can someone help me get ubuntu 7.10 installed?
[21:18] <jkonami> I did that at first, but then the choppy video thing had me looking for solutions
[21:18] <Survivorman> jkonami, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=580748
[21:18] <carlos> GO TO UBUNTU.COM
[21:19] <Survivorman> jkonami, I've never found the ati driver to best for my setup, but people's milage may vary.
[21:19] <carlos> CAREBEARY GO TO UBUNTU.COM AND DAWNLOAD IT
[21:19] <sculework> eejit
[21:19] <Starnestommy> !caps | carlos
[21:19] <ubotu> carlos: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[21:19] <Survivorman> jkonami, I had no trouble, just had to hack a google earth file to get it working with xgl.
[21:19] <carlos> sorry
[21:19] <chetnick> does anyone have problem with flash in web browser (firefox) on ubuntu?
[21:20] <sculework> almost everybody
[21:20] <kium> can i reinstall ubunto from the alternative cd
[21:20] <kium> alternate
[21:20] <kane77> chetnick, are you running 64 bit version?
[21:20] <chetnick> noope
[21:20] <chetnick> kane77: try to go to this site http://www.tncc.edu
[21:21] <heydabop> What is the command to disable the system speaker?
[21:21] <chetnick> try to use the menu from the left site
[21:21] <chetnick> side*
[21:21] <sculework> chetnick: I have a thing where using back and forward in youtube is gona cause a freeze eventu\lly
[21:21] <jkonami> Ok, thanks for the responses.. I orginally got the firegl because supposedly the opengl stuff worked better with 3dsmax but I don't even think that's the case anymore.  Anyway, I'm gonna get the driver workingm because I'm essentially in 640 right now which is horrendous for modern day computing :)  bbl :)
[21:21] <sculework> god luck jkonami
[21:22] <_Diego_> hello, i just downloaded a .tgz file, decompress it but theres no readme file, how do i install it?
[21:22] <Survivorman> jkonami, I gotcha, I used fglrx. Which card do you have?
[21:22] <sculework> !compile | _Diego_
[21:22] <ubotu> _Diego_: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[21:23] <AHemlocksLie> I have an ATI RADEON 9550, and someone told me using xgl or something like that rather than aigl, again not sure on the exact name, might solve some problems I've been having with games making my computer lock up. Now, though, none even start up all the way, and running glxgears makes X restart. Is there something I can do to fix xgl, or should I just go back to what I had before?
[21:23] <sculework> well if the older way was better, go back
[21:23] <kane77> chetnick, it's taking too long to load... :/
[21:24] <kium> if i have Intel pc, but i dont know if its 64bit AMD, what i need to choose on the download page?
[21:24] <CVD-PR> any know when the ubuntu 8.04 RC gonna came out? cheese i cant wait to download, burnit and use it
[21:24] <AHemlocksLie> sculework, but it might just be a settings issue. I had to fix a dozen things when I first installed Ubuntu and was using the original anyway
[21:24] <patrick_> guys i have gutsy on my compaq laptop with touch sensitive controls, however no matter how high i turn up the volume i barely hear anything out of my speakers...how do i fix this??
[21:24] <kane77> kium, if it is intel then it surely isn't AMD :)
[21:24] <kium> but look @ download page
[21:24] <kium> 64bit AMD and intel computers
[21:25] <kium> :O
[21:25] <kium> may i choose it ? or the first
[21:25] <genii> kium: The 32 bit version is usually best if you're unsure
[21:26] <kane77> kium, if you have 64 bit processor and have more than 4GB of ram then you need 64-bit version, otherwise you are fine with plain 32 bit version
[21:26] <sculework> AHemlocksLie: well ATI have a bad reputation, there are many things you could try, but it sounds nastily broken if glxgears segfaults the whole of X
[21:26] <kium> ok so i dl the normal one
[21:26] <kium> :)
[21:26] <kium> the first i mena
[21:26] <kium> mean
[21:26] <FloodBot1> kium: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:26] <AHemlocksLie> sculework: yeah, my hopes weren't exactly high, but I thought maybe there'd be something I could try
[21:27] <slongon> speech on
[21:27] <CVD-PR> ?
[21:27] <sculework> AHemlocksLie: newer drivers or sometimes older drivers, older drivers can be surprisingly effective sometimes
[21:27] <AHemlocksLie> sculework: I think I've got the newest. I updated with Envy about 5 minutes ago with no help
[21:28] <sculework> try older ones, there is a ld version that was better for compiz, but I forget now which version
[21:28] <Survivorman> AHemlocksLie, the newest ati driver ALWAYS screws my setup. Envy is typically not a good option either.
[21:28] <sculework> ld/old
[21:28] <heydabop> How do I get a command to execute at startup?
[21:29] <AHemlocksLie> survivorman: Really? I'd heard it was a great way to make sure your drivers are up to date and set up right
[21:29] <kane77> heydabop, before or after you log in?
[21:29] <Survivorman> heydabop, go to system, preferences and sessions
[21:29] <_Diego_> ubotu: i have no idea of compiling, could u see this plugin for me please? http://lyrc.com.ar/en/down/lyrc-linux-0.1.tgz
[21:29] <ItchyHoBo> can linux handle activex?
[21:30] <sculework> no
[21:30] <Survivorman> AHemlocksLie, a lot of people here come with problems. I have ati and just used fglrx to get compiz working... I used the restricted driver and installed xgl.
[21:30] <_tpp_> Hi, I'm having a problem where neither Firefox or Thunderbird will start. I don't get any errors at the console, it just thinks for a bit and then the window doesn't open. The process is sitting there when I look at 'ps', but nothing is happening! Anyone seen this one before?
[21:30] <ItchyHoBo> :(
[21:30] <Survivorman> AHemlocksLie, check out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=580748
[21:30] <Starnestommy> ItchyHoBo: you could use IE in wine
[21:30] <CareBerry> Hi everyone, im trying to install ubuntu 7.10 and its giving me 8254 timer not connected to io-apic
[21:30] <CareBerry> error in install
[21:30] <ItchyHoBo> Starnestommy, IE in linux?
[21:30] <sculework> _tpp_: create a differnt user for now, see if they work for that user, like a while new logon and start gnome for the new user
[21:30] <ItchyHoBo> where do i get the setup?
[21:31] <Lamego> ItchyHoBo, that is possible using wine
[21:31] <billy> what are some chat programs that have webcam support, and how do i install the drivers for my webcam?
[21:31] <alan_m> !ie4linux
[21:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ie4linux - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:31] <_tpp_> ok I will try that, then come back and let you know!
[21:31] <Starnestommy> !ies4linux
[21:31] <ubotu> ies4linux is a script that quickly and effortlessly helps you install 3 versions of IE in Wine. Information can be found at http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page including instructions specifically for Ubuntu. ies4linux is aimed at web designers and ie-only sites, so please, don’t use any of the IEs to navigate! Use Firefox!
[21:31] <alan_m> oops, forgot the s :)
[21:31] <binarical-app> ie for linux is used in wine for intended applications to work
[21:31] <chetnick> CareBerry: is it during the install or when you booting install CD
[21:31] <ItchyHoBo> alan_m, thanks man
[21:31] <keith4> how do I tell a dumb ubuntu user the ubuntu way to do "apt-get install w32codecs"?
[21:31] <danand_> _tpp_ - you may find you have a previous instance of firefox running - does ps -A | grep firefox give you any output?
[21:32] <CareBerry> chetnick: when i press enter to install
[21:32] <alan_m> Welcome, but dont thank me, sstarnestommy actually did the right command :)
[21:32] <billy> !webcam
[21:32] <alan_m> *starnestommy
[21:32] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[21:32] <keith4> !w32codecs
[21:32] <ubotu> The Win32 codecs are available from the Medibuntu repositories (see « /msg ubotu medibuntu »), and for releases prior to Gutsy, also at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[21:32] <ItchyHoBo> there is this stupid course on IAS by deloitte i need to finish; darn thing requires activex; i was afraid that i was going to switch back to windoze
[21:32] <_tpp_> yeah, this happens right after boot-up
[21:32] <binarical-app> keith4: have you tryed sudo apt-get install vlc
[21:32] <_tpp_> there is no firefox running
[21:32] <heydabop> Thank you Survivorman.
[21:32] <_tpp_> ok I created the user, I'll brb
[21:32] <AHemlocksLie> survivorman: that looks like what I did, basically, except I disabled AIGLX and Composite in my xorg.conf first. Could either of those be causing problems?
[21:32] <chetnick> try to pass the option "no apic"
[21:32] <nixnoob> how do i control my cpu fan speed in gutsy?  my cpu fan can be heard from space...
[21:32] <Survivorman> keith4, don't use w32codecs, use ubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:32] <binarical-app> vlc has all its codecs built into its application, it dosnt need external libs
[21:32] <patrick_> guys i have gutsy on my compaq laptop with touch sensitive controls, however no matter how high i turn up the volume i barely hear anything out of my speakers...how do i fix this?
[21:33] <Survivorman> keith4, you will have to have the right repos enabled though
[21:33] <ItchyHoBo> thank you all let's c if i can get it to work
[21:33] <keith4> binarical-app: Survivorman: in debian, I'd install w32codecs. I don't use ubuntu. I'm trying to help some ubuntu-using idiot, and I want to tell him the "ubuntu" way to do this
[21:33] <CareBerry> chetnick: how do i do that?
[21:33] <Survivorman> AHemlocksLie, it's possible. With that guide, it works on a fressh install of gutsy after updating my system
[21:34] <KalEl> what is the default port for sftp?
[21:34] <binarical-app> you should be able to find most of what he needs by adding repos
[21:34] <keith4> KalEl: sftp is just ftp over ssh. thus, it uses whatever ssh uses, which is 22 by default
[21:34]  * ItchyHoBo finds it funny that ie4linux ppl have turned the IE 'E' upside down; maybe to ward of evil?
[21:35] <_tpp_> ok, firefox opened for the new user, I've already tried deleting my .mozilla folder, what is going on?
[21:35] <sculework> keith4: odd I have 115 in /etc/services
[21:35] <AHemlocksLie> survivorman: okay, test time. Be back in a sec with updates.
[21:35] <Jowi> patrick_, generally speaking, the volume has several controls - normally Volume and PCM. open the volume control panel and watch which switch is adjusted when you press the buttons. if it is PCM that goes up and down when you press the buttons, turn Volume up to full or vice versa.
[21:35] <CareBerry> How do i install with No apic option?
[21:35] <Stroganoff> theres no way to move the ~/Templates folder to a different position (hide it), am i right?
[21:35] <Survivorman> keith4, that will get the codecs for him. I'm not sure w32codecs are still there. tell him to enable all repos in system, adminstration, software sources and then sudo apt-get update followed by sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:35] <KalEl> keith4, but wikipedia says "A common misconception is that SFTP is simply FTP run over SSH"... i do not follow http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSH_file_transfer_protocol
[21:36] <keith4> are you serious? there's no way to just install w32codecs without all of the restricted crap?
[21:36] <jegr> hello, i'm trying to install ubuntu on the same disk as windows. windows is installed in the beginning and there was some space left for linux. root linux partition came out to be /dev/sda7 (windows partitions begin ftom sda1...). after installing ubuntu it appeared that grub failed to install. what should i do ?
[21:36] <keith4> man, I hate ubuntu
[21:36] <sculework> KalEl: 115
[21:36] <kindofabuzz> ItchyHoBo: ie4linux? what the hell?
[21:36] <sculework> grep sftp /etc/services
[21:36] <kindofabuzz> who would do that?
[21:36] <Survivorman> you could install vlc. that would get the basics
[21:36] <Survivorman> as someone stated before.
[21:36] <keith4> he's using mplayer
[21:36] <kindofabuzz> that's like going camping and taking your tv
[21:37] <binarical-app> the restricted repos are a result of common copy right laws , as such NIx os must be carefull not to interefere with lager money making monsters
[21:37] <danand_> keith4 - restricted is just part of the package name - its a bit like the non-free repos in debian
[21:37] <ItchyHoBo> kindofabuzz, yeah i needed to view some webpages that require activex; i have wine so i'll just install IE on linux i guess;
[21:37] <KalEl> thanks keith4, sculework ... is sftp secure liks ssh? if i send it through untrusted channel will my data be secure?
[21:37] <ItchyHoBo> kindofabuzz, it is a script for installing IE on linux
[21:37] <kindofabuzz> ItchyHoBo: i would just avoid those sites and write the webmaster and tell him to catch up with the times =)
[21:38] <keith4> danand_: right. but what else in in  ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[21:38] <Survivorman> keith4, java is there too i know
[21:38] <Survivorman> flash
[21:39] <keith4> so, I should tell him to install vlc, java, and flash, just to get w32codecs?
[21:39] <Luckrider> s/join #ubuntu+1
[21:39] <keith4> i want no part of this
[21:39] <ItchyHoBo> kindofabuzz, uh u see the webpages is an IAS accounting course developed by the good ppl (read pencil pushers) at deloitte; they are giving it for free; i have an accounting exam coming up so i guess i have no choice
[21:39] <binarical-app> keith4: vlc is a stand alone media player
[21:39] <keith4> i'll just send him in here
[21:39] <danand_> keith4 -  support for MP3 playback and decoding, support for various other audio formats (gstreamer plugins), Microsoft fonts, Java runtime environment, Flash plugin, LAME (to create compressed audio files) and DVD playback.
[21:39] <Survivorman> Keith4, he could just install vlc if he just wants the codecs and nothing else
[21:39] <docmur> How the hell do you read vista made DVD"s in ubuntu
[21:39] <patrick_> jowi im in sound preferences (7.10) and i see pcm and pcm2 but i dont know how i could mess with the settings, where should i go?
[21:39] <StoneNewt> Lamego: you rang?
[21:39] <binarical-app> keith4: if he trys vlc he wont need all of the above
[21:40] <Survivorman> keith4, but for a working system for me, it's easier to just install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:40] <jPratt> What is 7.10's nickname
[21:40] <kindofabuzz> ItchyHoBo: tell them you don't have IE
[21:40] <Survivorman> jpatrick, gutsy
[21:40] <Survivorman> jpatrick, I mean gutsy gibbon
[21:40] <_tpp_> OK so I just noticed that firefox will load fine when I turn compiz on. i.e. it doesn't work when metacity is the window manager, but works fine with compiz
[21:40] <asathoor> I have some problems using java on a 64-bit system
[21:41] <ItchyHoBo> kindofabuzz, half way there buddy ;); but once i get my accounting done i am gonna purge my system of this evil
[21:41] <kindofabuzz> ItchyHoBo: unless somewhere in the shchool rules it says you have to have windows, then they can't hold it against you
[21:41] <x1250>  Hi guys, I have just installed mailnotify for evolution. My problem is that if I close evolution, then mailnotify tells me "unable to contact evolution". I am hoping I'm missing some program running in the background, because I surely dislike the idea of having evolution always opened. Any help?
[21:41] <kindofabuzz> ItchyHoBo: make them conform to you! =)
[21:42] <Troofy> when i try to configure wine by settings>wine this appears. http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/4903/snapshot1yd5.png any help?
[21:42] <AHemlocksLie> survivorman: no combination of changes to the two new settings fixed it, so I reverted back to AIGLX. Oh, well. Thanks for the help, though
[21:42] <AHemlocksLie> sculework, thanks to you, too
[21:42] <T1m0thy> @now Indianapolis
[21:42] <ubotu> Current time in America/Indiana/Indianapolis: April 03 2008, 16:42:51 - Next meeting: Server Team in 6 days
[21:43] <Survivorman> AHemlocksLie, you might want to further try googling. I will never get an ati laptop again.
[21:43] <ItchyHoBo> kindofabuzz, i think windoze user will be pretty shocked and awed to see IE running on linux; that'll be enough
[21:43] <kindofabuzz> on this day april 3,1882 Jesse James was shot in the back for a bounty of $5000
[21:43] <Lamego> !ot | kindofabuzz
[21:43] <ubotu> kindofabuzz: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[21:43] <Survivorman> ItchyHoBo, well, it's IE 6, so maybe not with IE8 around.
[21:43] <kindofabuzz> ItchyHoBo: i think they will be more shocked if you told them they don't need IE and show them firefox
[21:44] <AHemlocksLie> survivorman: yeah, I'll probably try looking around some more, and I already planned to get a new nVidia card ASAP. It was making my Firefox crash, though, so I gotta revert for now.
[21:44] <ItchyHoBo> Survivorman, IE6 is good enough i think; i just need to finish my little course then it's bye bye IE
[21:44] <kindofabuzz> promote linux, not windows on linux
[21:44] <Xbehave> how do i install java 64 bit?
[21:44] <binarical-app> word
[21:45] <Survivorman> ItchyHoBo, oh, for some class? Eh, I hated that when my online courses were only IE accessible
[21:45] <Randomtime> !Su
[21:45] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[21:45] <ItchyHoBo> kindofabuzz, linux is awesome man what makes it more awesome is that it can run windoze stuff on it
[21:45] <Randomtime> ya
[21:45] <pale-yafa> Hi, Iam trying to watch some video streaming and its not working on my desktop while its working on my lap top
[21:45] <pale-yafa> the video is wmv, and I dont know why its not working on this machine
[21:46] <kindofabuzz> jeeez, most of he windos stuff you talk about has a linux alternative that is just as good or better
[21:46] <Xbehave> do you have the same plugins installed on both
[21:46] <ItchyHoBo> Survivorman, yep :), i think IE is done, funny inverted 'E' icon; like the inverted cross; only this time i'll interpret it that they are turning evil into good
[21:46] <ItchyHoBo> Survivorman, and yeah man my activex webpage is runnin thanks a ton man!!
[21:46] <Troofy> when i try to configure wine by settings>wine this appears. http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/4903/snapshot1yd5.png any help?
[21:46] <Lamego> IE gentleman, can we get on topic ?
[21:47] <siloko> hi - how to I configure X so that I can fast swicth between an external monitor and a laptop screen with different resolutions?
[21:47] <ItchyHoBo> Lamego, all done; webpage running
[21:47] <binarical-app> try : sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade. If that wont work or asks you if your are the super user, try : sudo -s . then apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[21:47] <mechanicalchris> How do I get an application to open on start up
[21:47] <Lamego> Troofy, your issue seems to be KDE specific
[21:47] <siloko> by fast switch I mean without having to reboot
[21:48] <Lamego> Troofy, from the terminal run: winecfg
[21:48] <slashzul> how do you max screen a youtube video from firefox?
[21:48] <scuderia_> hi, how can i make my ubuntu to mount automatically in startup?
[21:48] <Lamego> scuderia, add the filesystems you wish to be mounted on /etc/fstab
[21:48] <Survivorman> mechanicalchris, are you using gnome or kde
[21:49] <mechanicalchris> Gnome
[21:49] <cdecarlo> scuderia_: you have to add the device you want to mount to you fstab
[21:49] <Survivorman> you can make a new startup command in system -- preferences -- sessions
[21:49] <cdecarlo> /etc/fstab
[21:49] <Lamego> mechanicalchris, System -> Admin -> Session
[21:49] <binarical-app> scuderia: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[21:50] <CareBerry> can someone please explain to me what this apic thing is?
[21:50] <ItchyHoBo> !apic
[21:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apic - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:51] <slashzul> how do you max screen a youtube video from firefox?
[21:51] <patifa> http://www.evilbitz.com/2006/12/08/interrupts-and-interrupt-controllers
[21:52] <alan_m> patifa, who was that for?
[21:52] <Troofy> Lamego Warning: could not find DOS drive for current working directory '/home/loguser1', starting in the Windows directory.
[21:52] <Troofy> ALSA lib pcm_mmap.c:369:(snd_pcm_mmap) mmap failed: Invalid argument
[21:52] <Troofy> fixme:mixer:ALSA_MixerInit No master control found on SAA7134, disabling mixer
[21:52] <peter77> does anyone know how to fix second life to run whilst using compiz-fusion?
[21:52] <mechanicalchris> survivorman: Ithanks for the tip but I can't find "programs" underbrowser
[21:52] <binarical-app> slashzul: that usually is an integrated option in the web media player, or you may have a key that is mapped as "key + scroll"
[21:52] <patifa> for CareBerry, explaination of interrupts, and then of the APIC.
[21:53] <ltracy> hi.  If I want to upgrade from Gutsy to Hardy, do I just download the installation CD and go at it, or is there an upgrade manager approach?
[21:53] <jack_spratt> if you run 3d apps use a different WM that takes less resources peter77
[21:53] <wuxia> I tried to install libghc6-hgl-dev ... now, I can neither install it nor remove it ... (when i install it, dpkg returns an eror code: when i try to remove it, it complains saying th epakage is in bad condition and I should install it first) --- how do I get rid of this package?
[21:53] <Survivorman> mechanicalchris, what are you trying to start... I can help you.
[21:53] <Lamego> ltracy, for hardy, go #ubuntu+1
[21:53] <CareBerry> patifa: ok well can you help me get ubuntu installed
[21:53] <mechanicalchris> Survivorman: Knotes (Its like sticky notes to organize myself)
[21:53] <peter77> jack_spratt, I wanna use compiz, lol I already know to use metacity instead but I know there is a fix just don't know how :-(
[21:54] <ltracy> thanks
[21:54] <Survivorman> ok, do you know if it is located in /usr/bin/knotes?
[21:54] <alan_m> Guys can we try specifying who were talking to when were addressing problems? Helps with user confusion such as what I just pulled :) Thanks!
[21:54] <patifa> what's the error, CareBerry?  Noone can help without it.
[21:55] <ItchyHoBo> !AHCI
[21:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ahci - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:55] <mechanicalchris> yeah I think so. I just dont knoew how to navigate to any program from the browsing tree
[21:55] <SliMM> does anyone know how i can access my files on my motorola l6 with ubuntu?
[21:55] <mneptok> !acpi
[21:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acpi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:55] <Troofy> when i try to configure wine by settings>wine this appears. http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/4903/snapshot1yd5.png any help?
[21:55] <binarical-app> ltracy: doing that via apt or aptitiude can be a bother, as you will have to manually correct your system then afterwards. another option would be to correctly partition your hardrives so that there is a /home folder and and / folder this way most of your information can be saved on you /home partition and the rest can be upgraded to your hearts content
[21:55] <CareBerry> patifa: its giving a 8254 timer error
[21:55] <mneptok> ubotu: you lie
[21:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about you lie - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:55] <alan_m> SliMM: is this a mobile phone?
[21:55] <scuderia_> cdecarlo: i will search for how to do it thanks
[21:55] <SliMM> yes, it's a mobile phone
[21:55] <johannix> rwycuff: no luck yet. (left the comp for a bit...) was looking through alsa.opensrc site came across: http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Audigyls
[21:55] <alan_m> SliMM: if you have bluetooth you can try doing this
[21:55] <alan_m> !bluetooth | SliMM
[21:55] <ubotu> SliMM: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[21:56] <Troofy> Lamego can some one  help?  W: GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com gutsy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 58403026387EE263
[21:56] <mechanicalchris> i.e. I see documents, My pictures, my video, but no programs
[21:56] <johannix> rwycuff: which is probably why i went with CA0106 to begin with
[21:56] <Survivorman> mechanicalchris, when you opens sessions, hit add (i think), type a name (knotes or whatever), then browse, filesystem, usr, bin, then find knotes
[21:56] <SliMM> alan_m: no, usb cable connection :-)
[21:56] <alan_m> SliMM: ah, ok, sorry then :)
[21:56] <Lamego> Troofy, please keep with the wine version from the repositories, unless you have a strong reason for the upgrade
[21:56] <SliMM> np :)
[21:56] <alan_m> SliMM: im not good with usb cable connections for phones, i just know my bluetooth, sorry.
[21:57] <wuxia> how do I unp;ack a *.deb? (not install it ... I wnat to unpack it / modify it / repack it)
[21:57] <slashzul> or anything)]
[21:57] <Survivorman> or you could probably type knotes and leave it at that
[21:57] <Troofy> Lamego i do. an app dont work with previous one
[21:57] <slashzul> how do you max screen a youtube video from firefox?
[21:57] <patifa> Don't know if I can help you, CareBerry.  Find a way to get the exact error see if someone else knows what it is.
[21:57] <binarical-app> slashzul: that usually is an integrated option in the web media player, or you may have a key that is mapped as "key + scroll"
[21:57] <loopde> is there a way i can move my ubuntu live cd to a usbdrive ?
[21:57] <ItchyHoBo> Troofy, wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[21:57] <loopde> just want to boot with that other than the disc
[21:57] <dgjones> !install | loopde
[21:57] <ubotu> loopde: Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[21:57] <alan_m> !usb | loopde
[21:57] <ubotu> loopde: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[21:57] <ltracy> binarical-app: That is a good point.. I did partition a /home
[21:58] <Lamego> wundaboy, a .deb is an ar file: man ar
[21:58] <georgy_28> ! gammu | SliMM
[21:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gammu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:58] <binarical-app> loopde: you have to partition your usb stick so that it is recognised by the boot loader in queston
[21:58] <JuN|oR> hey
[21:58] <ItchyHoBo> Troofy, try it again and again untill u suceed; [prob caused sometimes by bad connections
[21:58] <loopde> yes i think i can make the usb stick bootable, but i have a ubuntu live disc already with some apps on it for foresic and would like to use the usbstick instead
[21:58] <Tatster> Hi all,  I'm trying to recover a system from a hard disc failure with a software raid 1 mirror
[21:58] <Survivorman> slashzul, in the main window of the player in the lower right hand corner are two small window buttons. one opens a maximized window. you might have to manually resize it though.
[21:59] <Survivorman> slashzul, it works. i just tested.
[21:59] <binarical-app> ltracy: if want to upgrade to the next distro: one method would be to manually edit all your repos from 1 to 2 or gutsy to hardy. or you can try sudo apt-get distro-update
[21:59] <Tatster> I've booted up with systemrecsucecd, and can see the physical volume with pvscan
[21:59] <Troofy> ItchyHoBo i think its working now. what was the error about and what command you gave did it to correct?
[22:00] <ItchyHoBo> Troofy, copy pasted it from winehq ;) sometime the connection times out no biggie
[22:00] <mechanicalchris> Survivorman: thanks suse! p.s. in the process I accidently dragged the "dell utility" and "disk" drive icons onto the desktop. How do I get rid of them?
[22:00] <JuN|oR> where i can download
[22:00] <JuN|oR> linux
[22:00] <JuN|oR> ?
[22:00] <JuN|oR> linux
[22:00] <JuN|oR> ?
[22:00] <FloodBot1> JuN|oR: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:00] <JuN|oR> where i can download
[22:00] <Troofy> ItchyHoBo thanks
[22:00] <Tatster> but my logical volumes seem to be stuck at LV Status: Not available
[22:01] <binarical-app> JuN|oR: google - linux distro
[22:01] <ItchyHoBo> Troofy, what game is it?
[22:01] <Survivorman> mechanicalchris, you can highlight them and shift-delete them
[22:01] <SliMM> georgy_28: other ideas?
[22:01] <keit1> this one is for those that have roadtested hardy.. in the new nautilus is there a way to view the current folder with "show in groups" option similar to that in xp?  it was an awesome method of viewing your music collection!
[22:01] <JuN|oR> is Ubuntu - linux or no
[22:01] <JuN|oR> ?
[22:01] <Lamego> !hardy | keit1
[22:01] <ubotu> keit1: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[22:01] <ItchyHoBo> JuN|oR, it is a thoroughbred linux
[22:01] <Lamego> JuN|oR, yes
[22:01] <thoreauputic> JuN|oR: yes
[22:01] <keit1> JuN|oR: it is a distro of linux yes
[22:02] <mechanicalchris> Survivorman: its just ganna delete the shortcut off of the desktop not my whole Dell partition right?
[22:02] <binarical-app> JuN|oR: go to distrowatch.com
[22:02] <georgy_28> SliMM, : I do it with gammu and wammu for cable connection with my phone
[22:02] <keit1> JuN|oR: it is not the only linux distro. linux is not an OS.. it's a kernel
[22:02] <JuN|oR> can anyone gives me
[22:02] <JuN|oR> linj
[22:02] <jack_spratt> JuN|oR: JuN|oR: depends what you mean by linux :)
[22:02] <keit1> Lamego: I know what hardy is ;)
[22:02] <JuN|oR> links
[22:02] <SliMM> georgy_28: what phone
[22:02] <JuN|oR> from rapidshare
[22:02] <JuN|oR> ?
[22:02] <FloodBot1> JuN|oR: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:02] <ItchyHoBo> JuN|oR, there u can see ubuntu as one of the most popular distro out there
[22:02] <thoreauputic> !enter
[22:02] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[22:02] <jack_spratt> JuN|oR: JuN|oR: distrowatch.org
[22:02] <Lamego> keit1, so you know you are asking on the wrong channel :)
[22:02] <keit1> Lamego: i want to know the answer to that question!
[22:02] <neeto> For some reason my cursor only shows up on some windows but goes back to the default cursor when hovering over the desktop or the toolbars.... anyone have this problem and/or know how to fix it?
[22:03] <cdecarlo> i think it's spelt lynx
[22:03] <cdecarlo> isn't it
[22:03] <keit1> Lamego: ahhh ubuntu+1???
[22:03] <Lamego> yes :)
[22:03] <keit1> Lamego: word
[22:03] <kindofabuzz> neeto: i got the fix for that!
[22:03] <keit1> Lamego:  ty :)
[22:03] <kindofabuzz> neeto: go to yur compiz settings
[22:03] <JuN|oR> Who have the rapidshare links To download Linux from there
[22:03] <JuN|oR> ?
[22:04] <thoreauputic> !download
[22:04] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive - PLEASE use the !torrents to download Gutsy, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[22:04] <kindofabuzz> neto?
[22:04] <keit1> JuN|oR: lots of people are getting confused as to what linux actually is.  its the foundations for the OS, the kernel.
[22:04] <kindofabuzz> neeto?
[22:04] <ItchyHoBo> JuN|oR, u dont need rapidshare u can get it from canonical servers as well as torrents
[22:04] <mechanicalchris> Survivorman: I am I unmounting the volume? it want let me get rid of em
[22:04] <keit1> JuN|oR: just go to the ubuntu site and get the torrent
[22:04] <ItchyHoBo> JuN|oR, and it is not pirate it is free software
[22:04] <binarical-app> lol
[22:04] <JuN|oR> haha
[22:04] <binarical-app> sorry
[22:04] <JuN|oR> do i need to pay something
[22:04] <JuN|oR> or no
[22:04] <JuN|oR> ?
[22:05] <binarical-app> ***bites his lip
[22:05] <ItchyHoBo> JuN|oR, nope
[22:05] <keit1> JuN|oR: no, you don't pay!
[22:05]  * thoreauputic smells troll
[22:05] <Lamego> JuN|oR, erm, go read something about linux first, please
[22:05] <JuN|oR> where to read
[22:05] <JuN|oR> Lamego
[22:05] <JuN|oR> ?
[22:05] <kindofabuzz> google.com
[22:05] <JuN|oR> i like to learn
[22:05] <keit1> JuN|oR: it is open free software, as in speech and beer
[22:05] <ItchyHoBo> JuN|oR, wikipedia
[22:05] <FloodBot1> JuN|oR: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:05] <my007ms> does ubuntu  build on Debian
[22:05] <my007ms> ?
[22:05] <JuN|oR> about linux
[22:05] <alan_m> http://www.kernel.org
[22:05]  * binarical-app slaps JuN|oR
[22:05] <alan_m> and
[22:05] <ItchyHoBo> my007ms, yep
[22:05]  * JuN|oR slaps binarical-app around a bit with a large trout
[22:05] <leonida> ciao a tutti
[22:05] <alan_m> http://www.ubuntu.com
[22:05] <kindofabuzz> don't send a newb to kernel.org lol
[22:05] <alan_m> junior, i highly suggest you go to those two sites :)
[22:06] <thoreauputic> JuN|oR: don't use the enter key instead of punctuation, please
[22:06] <neeto> kindofabuzz: hey dude, sorry... anyway, go to ccsm?
[22:06]  * binarical-app slaps JuN|oR
[22:06] <kindofabuzz> neeto: yeah
[22:06] <alan_m> if not the first one, DEFINATELY the second junior.
[22:06] <leonida> !ciao
[22:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ciao - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:06] <leonida> !list
[22:06] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[22:06] <kindofabuzz> neeto: then general settings
[22:06] <my007ms> ItchyHoBo, and why use ubuntu and not debian ?
[22:06] <neeto> kindofabuzz: ok...
[22:06] <ItchyHoBo> my007ms, a very good question
[22:07] <kindofabuzz> neeto: see cursor theme?  make that match whatever cursor theme you are using
[22:07] <neeto> kindofabuzz: ahh, cursor theme... nifty. Thanks man.
[22:07] <ItchyHoBo> my007ms, 1. ubuntu is more cutting edge 2. debian is for full fledged servers 3. ubuntu has tons of more support 4. ubuntu is HIP!!!
[22:07] <thoreauputic> rodserling: hi :)
[22:07] <ItchyHoBo> my007ms, did i mention it was easier
[22:07] <kindofabuzz> neeto: np, i had to figure that out myself
[22:07] <alan_m> ItchyHoBo: 2 is also relevant to ubuntu as well ;)
[22:08] <SliMM> my007ms: yeah, you can install ubuntu in 30 minutes or so
[22:08] <neeto> kindofabuzz: it had been bothering me for months...
[22:08] <ItchyHoBo> alan_m, yep... but debian is definitely the big bro there
[22:08] <my007ms> ItchyHoBo, what is HIP!!!
[22:08] <Skitt> SliMM: a debian install wouldn't take longer
[22:08] <kindofabuzz> neeto: working now?
[22:08] <alan_m> ItchyHoBo: i know, was just making sure you didnt count out either one in your 2nd point :)
[22:08] <ItchyHoBo> my007ms, cool; in vogue; stylish;
[22:09] <moDumass> morning all, im trying to set up email through evolution, but i keep getting this "Could not connect to mail.mydomain.org: No route to host" error, how do i quickfix this? ps you are all awesome
[22:09] <ItchyHoBo> my007ms, trust me if u are using a desktop u need ubuntu
[22:09] <moDumass> i prelube
[22:09] <kindofabuzz> neeto: you may have to ctrl-alt bckspace, but probably not
[22:09] <SliMM> Skitt: oh, i thought it would
[22:09] <ItchyHoBo> my007ms, plus sometime the kernel used in debian is a little too old to support latest hardware
[22:09] <jack_spratt> you can install other distros in 7 minutes ;)
[22:09] <neeto> kindofabuzz: no, it works fine. Thanks for the help
[22:09] <kindofabuzz> neeto: np
[22:09] <ItchyHoBo> my007ms, and u dont wanna modify ur install if u r a newbie
[22:09] <my007ms> ItchyHoBo, i use fedora/redhat for abut 5 years or more but find i need something new i need it for my laptop
[22:09] <Skitt> na ... its like ubuntu alternate ... pressing enter
[22:09] <c0ldfusion> ItchyHoBo, that's my argument against father deb.
[22:10] <my007ms> but sometime i test server things and i developing C/C++
[22:10] <SliMM> oh, oh, why ubuntu and not linux mint?
[22:10] <thoreauputic> moDumass: camn you ping mail.mydomain.org ?
[22:10] <thoreauputic> *can
[22:10] <alan_m> !ot
[22:10] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[22:10] <ItchyHoBo> my007ms, ubuntu will suit u plenty fine
[22:10] <jack_spratt> I like mint
[22:10] <jack_spratt> also dream linux is excellent i think
[22:10] <my007ms> ItchyHoBo, but sometime i need to install server things for testing only
[22:10] <jack_spratt> did i mention elive?
[22:11] <Tu13es> is there something like hdparm that will work with /dev/sdx devices?
[22:11] <alan_m> Were getting off topic in here, can we steer it back to support for Ubuntu? thanks
[22:11] <clutsy-ribbon> hey can anyone tell me how to install an icon theme please
[22:11] <thoreauputic> !ot
[22:11] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[22:11] <my007ms> ItchyHoBo, sure i need Apache mysql ;)
[22:11] <ItchyHoBo> my007ms, no prob ubuntu is also a server os, u just need to add the debs u need
[22:11] <ItchyHoBo> my007ms, u have both of em on ubuntu
[22:11] <JuJuBee> My audio setting keep reverting back to "muted" after I shut down.  How do I fix this?
[22:11] <cdecarlo> what's "me fui"
 i can recieve mail from it
[22:12] <moDumass> gimme a sec
[22:12] <SliMM> ok, i don't really like linux mint
[22:12] <thoreauputic> moDumass: that doesn't answer the question though - and is there a separate amtp server address?
[22:12] <my007ms> ItchyHoBo, i will let follow u. and will remove my debian with ubuntu and give it try ;)
[22:12] <SliMM> what sound cards are well supported by ubuntu?
 yes i can
[22:12] <alan_m> SliMM: most out on the market, if not all.
 yes i can ping it i mean, sorry
[22:13] <ItchyHoBo> my007ms, u wont regret it
[22:13] <cdecarlo> sound blaster live! value
[22:13] <thoreauputic> moDumass: if you can ping it then you do have a route to the host, right?
 no same address
[22:13] <my007ms> ItchyHoBo, the most bad thing i face in debian was it's old gnome only xchat old .. etc ;)
[22:13] <thoreauputic> moDumass: so have you checked for typos etc.?
[22:13] <siloko> Tu13es: mmm hdparm works with my /dev/sda - well at least with the -I switch
[22:13] <my007ms> ItchyHoBo, i have to use testing things to get new things
[22:13] <SliMM> alan_m: well, my music doesn't sound that good with my on-board sound card
[22:13] <linux26> is there a special channel dedicated to discussions about the upcoming Ubuntu Hardy?
[22:14] <alan_m> !hardy | linux26
[22:14] <ubotu> linux26: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[22:14] <thoreauputic> linux26: #ubuntu+1
[22:14] <SliMM> #ubuntu+1
[22:14] <linux26> thanks a lot
[22:14] <jack_spratt> didnt you hear theres a global boycott of creative products at the moment! especially by linux users, shame on you for recommending them
[22:14] <alan_m> Your welcome linux26 :)
 indeed i have, the domain name is a very short domain
[22:14] <YourNameHere> Is there any way to change the taskbar notification color?
[22:15] <JuN|oR> hmmm i can't find
[22:15] <thoreauputic> moDumass: does it work with a different mail client? Say t-bird or sylpheed ?
 these are the instructions from the host "Outgoing Mail Server: mail.mydomain.org (server requires authentication) port 26"
[22:15] <JuN|oR> give me the link please for linux to download full not triak
[22:15] <Lamego> JuN|oR, www.ubuntu.com
[22:15] <thoreauputic> moDumass: port 26 is a funky choice :)
 have not tried, but there shouldnt be any probs with evolution,
[22:15] <briareos90> hi .. i ran the upgrader to hardy , but didnt upgrade . BUt now my software sources are totally messed up
[22:16] <alan_m> JuN|oR: there is no trial, its full version, free software, free...completely...no limits...ever.
[22:16] <thoreauputic> moDumass: you specified the port then?
[22:16] <briareos90> can someone tell me how to revert back to the original software sources
 yeh? do i have any say though?
[22:16] <keit1> JuN|oR: there is NO TRIAL!!!! goto ubuntu.com <----
[22:16] <michi> hi again :)
[22:16] <cdecarlo> "me fui" - anyone?
[22:16] <Lamego> !sources
[22:16] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[22:16] <binarical-app> JuN|oR: linux is a kernel ..............there is no operating system called linux.
[22:16] <thoreauputic> moDumass: heh - no I guess not :)
[22:16] <JuN|oR> Desktop edition is for pc
 no, where would i specify the port? ps thanks for the help
[22:16] <JuN|oR> normal ?
[22:16] <alan_m> JuN|oR: yes
[22:17] <JuN|oR> Which one is best
[22:17] <keit1> JuN|oR: in the nicest possible manor please let me say you have been told the same info many many many times now.  absorb that information and _get_on_with_it_
[22:17] <JuN|oR> from versions
[22:17] <JuN|oR> ?
[22:17] <siloko> JuN|oR: desktop edition is for desktops! of many differect architectures . . .
[22:17] <thoreauputic> JuN|oR: go to http://ubuntu.com and follow the links, please
[22:17] <binarical-app> JuN|oR: there are many distros using the linux kernel some of them are os X , goobuntu, kubuntu , ubuntu , xubutnu , knoppix , elive, etc. inform yourself
[22:17] <ItchyHoBo> JuN|oR, should try slackware or freebsd
[22:17] <thoreauputic> JuN|oR: if you keep on repeating the same questions you will be silenced
[22:17] <keit1> JuN|oR: download the livecd from ubuntu.com. burn it. try it without installing a thing.  if you like it. install it :)
[22:18] <thoreauputic> Juhaz: final warning
[22:18] <mechanicalchris> I accidently dragged my "disk" icon and my "dell utilities" icon on to the desktop.  Right clicking only gives the following options -open-browse folders-create archive- umount volume- and properties
[22:18] <binarical-app> JuN|oR. you must customize your distro to fit your needs. we cant help you figure out what you want to do
[22:18] <thoreauputic> Juhaz: sorry, typo
[22:18] <thoreauputic> :(
[22:18] <keit1> ItchyHoBo: are you kidding.  if he doesn't know what linux is then freebsd will be fun to install lol
[22:19] <JuN|oR> http://hr.releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ubuntu-7.10-alternate-i386.iso
[22:19] <JuN|oR> is this one good
[22:19] <JuN|oR> ?
[22:19] <Lamego> !hr | JuN|oR
[22:19] <ubotu> JuN|oR: Odgovarajuci kanal za Hrvatski jezik je #ubuntu-hr, molimo Vas da se pridruzite tom kanalu ukoliko trebate pomoc za Ubuntu, hvala.  Croatian language support in #ubuntu-hr
[22:19] <dmfh> Greetings - would anyone know if the netfilter patches for iptable's ROUTE and -tee functions (useful for packet sniffing) were included in the source tree for the kernel in 8.04, so I can maybe avoid doing a kernel compile to turn those features on?
[22:19] <ItchyHoBo> JuN|oR, yep that the s**t right there
[22:19] <binarical-app> JuN|oR. can you tell me what kind of cpu you have?
[22:19] <|DuReX|> I got myself a new TV card today, Hauppauge HVR-1300, it gets seen perfectly in linux, modules are getting loaded etc, but I get 'cx22702_readreg: readreg error (ret == -121)'
[22:19] <Lamego> !hardy | dmfh
[22:19] <ubotu> dmfh: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[22:19] <|DuReX|> and the card doesn't work
[22:19] <|DuReX|> any id's ?
[22:19] <keit1>  JuN|oR: is that your architecture?  perhaps you don't want the alternate either
[22:19] <michi> restart for fish to load
[22:19] <jack_spratt> JuN|oR: there are loads of distros, if you dont know about linux, which seems to be the case then go for one designed for newbies, like pclinuxos
[22:20] <ItchyHoBo> JuN|oR, how much computer experience do u have?
[22:20] <clutsy-ribbon> wooop, I love ubuntu! i've made everything look so good!
[22:20] <thoreauputic> jack_spratt: I think there's a language problem here
[22:20] <clutsy-ribbon> lol
[22:20] <siloko> jack_spratt: or Ubuntu :)
[22:20] <dmfh> Thanks, Lamego. :D
[22:20] <Lamego> :)
[22:20] <Tatster> Is there anyone around that can help me troubleshoot an lvm volume issue.   http://pastebin.ca/970152 ???
[22:20] <JuN|oR> a lot man ItchyHoBo
[22:20] <rwycuff> hey anyone in here good with NFS
[22:20] <michi> i ant get the cube desktop running :((
[22:20] <JuN|oR> i am professional at
[22:20] <JuN|oR> windows xp
[22:21]  * keit1 has to chuckle
[22:21] <ItchyHoBo> JuN|oR, i c; so i guess you are running a pc; now there are two basic versions u have to choose from 64-bit adn the 32-bit
[22:21] <ItchyHoBo> JuN|oR, do u have a 64-bit PC?
[22:21] <keit1> JuN|oR: dude are you on a 64bit architecture or x86 or what?
[22:22] <alan_m> ItchyHoBo: just give him the 32 bit, were gonna be here for hours trying to help the poor guy i believe :(
 hmm, trying to figure out how i would specify the port
[22:22] <keit1> alan_m: second that
[22:22] <ItchyHoBo> alan_m, guess u r right
[22:22] <Lamego> alan_m, poor us :P
[22:22] <CareBerry> i turned off the splash install and used a noapic - im getting Buffer I/O error on device fs0, logical block 0\
[22:22] <ItchyHoBo> JuN|oR, do what alan_m says
[22:22] <thoreauputic> moDumass: usually your.address.org:26
[22:22] <moDumass> cool, will try that
[22:22] <thoreauputic> moDumass: whether that works in evolution I don't know
[22:23] <keit1> JuN|oR: do you know what a torrent is?
[22:23] <thoreauputic> moDumass: should be a config option somewhere - I stopped using evo years ago
[22:23] <Tailsfan> Hello
[22:23] <cdecarlo> CareBerry: try the alternate cd
[22:23] <JuN|oR> yes
[22:23] <alan_m> JuN|oR: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download here you go :)
[22:23] <JuN|oR> keit1
[22:23] <Tailsfan> What type of files are for CA Files
[22:23] <JuN|oR> i know
[22:23] <Tailsfan> lik ethe Secure Server Certification Aurhority
 all fixed just changed outgoing server to mail.maydomain.org:26
[22:23] <moDumass> fixed
[22:24] <moDumass> thanks
[22:24] <mm_> id
[22:24] <Tatster> Does anyone know of an IRC channel that covers LVM issues ?
 thanks
[22:24] <mm_> هاي
[22:24] <ItchyHoBo> JuN|oR, cool just get the 32bit
[22:24] <thoreauputic> moDumass: cool :)
[22:24] <mm_> هاي
[22:24] <mm_> hi
[22:24] <thoreauputic> moDumass: no problem :)
[22:24] <JuN|oR> :D
[22:24] <JuN|oR> http://www.ss64.com/bash/
[22:24] <JuN|oR> these are commands?
[22:24] <FloodBot1> JuN|oR: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:24] <mm_> fack yo u
[22:24] <mm_> ^_*
[22:24] <Lamego> !ops
[22:24] <ubotu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpatrick or jussi01!
[22:24] <CareBerry> it s loading
[22:24] <CareBerry> weird
 i lie, sorry
[22:24] <moDumass> its cool, il get on to it later
[22:25] <CareBerry> ok it just brought me into a tan screen
[22:25] <keit1> JuN|oR: click this link.... http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso
[22:25] <jack_spratt> whats the emergency?
[22:25] <smokan> is it hard to install debian over the internet? have no cd
[22:25] <CareBerry> I have a tan desktop and a mouse cursor, nothing to click on though?
[22:25] <tecywiz121> hey
[22:25] <amenado> smokan-> do you currently run another linux distro?
[22:25] <smokan> yes ubuntu
[22:26] <tecywiz121> I need some help installing a keymap, whould this be the place to ask?
[22:26] <keit1> CareBerry: give it a minute if your using the livecd
[22:26] <CareBerry> keit1: will i be able to install ubuntu once it loads?
[22:26] <keit1> CareBerry: yes
[22:26] <thoreauputic> moDumass: there is sure to be an option to set ports in evolution - hang on, looking...
[22:26] <alan_m> CareBerry: yep
[22:26] <|DuReX|> http://pastebin.com/m61491e91 <- my dmesg output
[22:26] <amenado> smokan maybe there is a #debian channel you can ask?
[22:26] <|DuReX|> showing only the info related to tvcard
[22:26] <ItchyHoBo> CareBerry, u'll be surprised how easy it is
[22:27] <keit1> CareBerry: a desktop shortcut should appear when gnome fully loads. if you spec is pretty old it can take some time
[22:27] <tecywiz121> moDumass, it believe that ports are just server:port
[22:27] <CareBerry> keit1: ok im installing now
[22:28] <moDumass> tecywiz121 yeh thats what ive just tried, the error is now a "that mailbox doesnt exist: which is random, im sending mail to a gmail acct, which does exist
[22:28] <keit1> CareBerry: how is your HDD setup? do you have windows on the same drive?
[22:28] <tecywiz121> ohhh
[22:28] <CareBerry> keit1: im running fedora 8
[22:28] <tecywiz121> moDumass, did you enable POP3 in the gmail settings, on the site?
[22:28] <CareBerry> keit1: so im going to wipe it and use ubuntu
[22:28] <cdecarlo> CareBerry: if  you are installing ubuntu on an old machine I'd suggest Xubuntu
[22:29] <alan_m> CareBerry: and your sure thats what you want to do right?
[22:29] <keit1> CareBerry: well choose "guided use whole disk" then
[22:29] <mehmet> !rar
[22:29] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[22:29] <CareBerry> alan_m: yes i dont have anything important thats not backed up to the network drive
[22:29] <alan_m> CareBerry: ok, making sure so you dont mess up now and regret it later :)
[22:29] <keit1> CareBerry: you should be up and running in 25 mins
[22:30] <tecywiz121> anyone for keymaps?
[22:30] <binarical-app> tecywiz121: waht do you want to do ?
[22:30] <CareBerry> crap i cant think of a computer name
[22:30] <ItchyHoBo> alan_m, are u experiencing an unstable firefox in ubuntu gutsy?
[22:30] <tecywiz121> binarical-app, install one :P
 no, im trying to send to the gmail acct
[22:30] <keit1> tecywiz121: do you mean mapping key's/hotkeys?
[22:30] <CareBerry> keit1: any ideas for a computer name?
[22:30]  * binarical-app jumps up and down 
[22:30] <alan_m> ItchyHoBo: im running hardy
[22:31] <keit1> CareBerry: mainframe?
[22:31] <thoreauputic> moDumass: just had a look at evolution for the first time for years: my look confirmed my opinion. Evolution sucks ;) Can't find a decent configuration dialogue yet...
[22:31] <tecywiz121> keit1, nope, programmers dvorak
[22:31] <ItchyHoBo> alan_m, so did they fix it in hardy?
[22:31] <CareBerry> keit1: hmmm
[22:31] <binarical-app> thats fun. anything else.........like what kind of keyboard your trying to get runing ?
[22:31] <alan_m> ItchyHoBo: so far so good ItchyHoBo
[22:31] <Stroganoff> is there a way to disable the floppy disk in linux? "blacklist floppy" in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist does not work
[22:31] <nixnoob> why do any full screen games cause my machine to hard reboot?
[22:31] <keit1> CareBerry: sorry, I'm a sucker for geek talk
[22:31] <ItchyHoBo> alan_m, and u got the FF3 HOW IS IT??
[22:31] <Xbehave> im running 64bit ubuntu but its installed 32bit java
[22:31] <CareBerry> keit1: Zion :)
[22:31] <tecywiz121> moDumass, i use it... double check it on gmail.com, you have to enable SMTP/POP3/IMAP
[22:31] <Who_> Anyone got any idea why I have what looks like a dim screen but is actually the result of flickering dark horizontal lines accross the screen?
[22:31] <keit1> CareBerry: nice
 cool, may go back to thunderbird, just gave it a whirl becasue its callenday is there
[22:32] <alan_m> ItchyHoBo: unbelievable, but i believe we gotta stop the hardy talk or else we get a offtopic thrown at us ;)
[22:32] <esteth> Is there a way to turn my volume up louder than it is at "maximum" ?
[22:32] <Xbehave> im running 64bit ubuntu but its installed 32bit java, how do i install 64bit JRE (no firefox plugin as thats 32)
[22:32] <CareBerry> keit1: matrix :
[22:32] <CareBerry> keit1: matrix :)
[22:32] <keit1> nixnoob: what gfx card / drvier
[22:32] <ItchyHoBo> alan_m, cool
[22:32] <briareos90> i tried to use update manager to upgrade to hardy , realized my net was too slow and cancelled it. But now whenever i run update manager it is showing loads of updates with packages with 'ubuntu3' in their names
[22:32] <briareos90> is there any way to fix this ?
[22:32] <keit1> CareBerry: was thinking that too.  I have had it before
 im not trying to check my gmail through evolution, im just trying to send someone an email from evolution using my emailo addy from my host
[22:32] <tecywiz121> ohhhh, sorry lol
[22:32] <CareBerry> keit1: so how long does the format take?
[22:32] <briareos90> i have already removed the hardy repos from my sources list
[22:33] <Lamego> Xbehave, you will need to manuallly install it from the sun site
[22:33] <keit1> CareBerry: a minute?
[22:33] <CareBerry> keit1: 250gb sata
[22:33] <keit1> CareBerry: its fast.
[22:33] <nixnoob> keit1, geforce 9600GT the new proprietary driver 171.06
[22:33] <Lamego> something you should not do, unless you are an experienced user
[22:33] <|DuReX|> http://pastebin.com/m61491e91 <- my dmesg output, I have no id how to solve this :( somebody could help me ?
[22:33] <CareBerry> keit1: its been stuck on 5% for awhile now =(
[22:34] <keit1> nixnoob: perhaps launch the game from terminal and check you logs
[22:34] <tecywiz121> binarical-app, any ideas?
[22:34] <alan_m> ItchyHoBo: i can talk to you all day about hardy in #ubuntu+1 heh
[22:34] <thoreauputic> moDumass: sorry - I use sylpheed and mutt here :)
[22:34] <CareBerry> keit1: sweet there it goes
[22:34] <keit1> CareBerry: don't worry bro.  if its older hardware then give it time.... it's all good
[22:34] <nixnoob> keit1, i check the logs in /var/log/ but theres nothing there the system just restarts as if i press the button on the case.
[22:34] <jeisma> what is the java channel?
[22:34] <Starnestommy> jeisma: ##java
[22:34] <ItchyHoBo> alan_m, bet you could; is FF3 acid2 compliant?
[22:34] <jeisma> so i typed in /join # #java
[22:35] <binarical-app> briareos90: you can try :rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity . from http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2007/02/14/how-to-reset-ubuntugnome-settings-to-defaults-without-re-installing/
[22:35] <CareBerry> keit1: it would be sis :)
[22:35] <keit1> nixnoob: weird to hard restart and not just restart X.  is it all games?
[22:35] <alan_m> ItchyHoBo: i just got hardy a few days ago, so im not too sure of what is compliant with what right now.
[22:35] <thoreauputic> jeisma: lose the space between th # marks
[22:35] <Draggin> Hi there - could anyone direct me to a place where I might find some help... I'm trying to get my Genius WizardPen Tablet to work in Gutsy, but I'm having problems.  Any idea where I might go hunting?
[22:35] <keit1> CareBerry: my bad ;)
[22:35] <jeisma> it syas i need to be identified to join that channel
[22:35] <peter77> is it possible to get my sound to switch over automatically to a usb headset (dare I say it) like windows ( I said it) and mac (slightly better)
[22:35] <jeisma> what does that mean i have to do?
[22:35] <nixnoob> keit1, so far any game under wine that uses 3d and nexuiz too
[22:35] <keit1> CareBerry: you not like fedora then, or fancied a change?
[22:35] <briareos90> binarical-app:im only having problem with my update manager
[22:35] <comatsu> i just installed wicd and dont have any idea how to get it to recognisa my ralink usb adapter.. ideas?
[22:35] <Lamego> nixnoob, it is probaly an issue with your 3d driver
[22:36] <thoreauputic> jeisma: /msg nickserv identify <yourpassword>
[22:36] <Starnestommy> jeisma: register your nickname.  http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup explains how
[22:36] <keit1> nixnoob: not a native game then? might be a bug with wine and your card /driver. report it
[22:36] <jeisma> oh..
[22:36] <thoreauputic> jeisma: ah - try /msg nickserv register
[22:36] <jeisma> anyone here familiar with java?
[22:36] <CareBerry> keit1: ubuntu sounds prettier :)
[22:36] <b4l74z4r> when i hit ctrl alt backspace to restart x, does all the apps that i had running automatically quit running?
[22:36] <nixnoob> keit1, nexuiz is native
[22:36] <tecywiz121> b4l74z4r: yep
[22:36] <thoreauputic> jeisma: just register and join ##java...
[22:36] <tecywiz121> most anyways
[22:36] <keit1> nixnoob: I can _Never_ get NExuiz to work in linux! lol
[22:36] <alan_m> b4l74z4r: yep, it pretty much forces them to quit.....
[22:37] <b4l74z4r> ok
[22:37] <CareBerry> kieit1: i was having alot of problems getting compiz working with fedora and i need a pretty desktop
[22:37] <keit1> CareBerry: it _is_ pretty.  can't wait for hardy too
[22:37] <CelticLord_> nuit!!
[22:37] <IdleOne> keit1: it's in te repos
[22:37] <jaggy> how do i see my ubuntu version? ^^
[22:37] <b4l74z4r> so what excactly is the difference between rebooting the system and restarting x?
[22:37] <Lamego> jaggy, lsb_release -a
[22:37] <mneptok> jaggy: lsb_release -a
[22:37] <jaggy> ty :)
[22:37] <keit1> CareBerry: if you like docks try the latest svn of cairo-dock... awesome!!!
[22:37] <Lamego> b4l74z4r, restarting X does not kills system processes
[22:37] <nixnoob> keit1, im going to try it with tremulous now and see if it happens, if it does then im pretty sure its a driver problem, it may be interesting to note that im using a dual display as well.
[22:37] <Alan> ah, but even better - hardy has Gnome 2.22, so we finally finally have a compositing metacity!
[22:38] <tecywiz121> b4l74z4r: restarting X doesn't do all the fancy boot type stuff
[22:38] <keit1> IdleOne: yeah nexuiz is in the repos and it just flat-out refuses to work for me on both machines one ati one nvidia
[22:38] <CareBerry> keit1: whats a dock?
[22:38] <b4l74z4r> if i have an error, should i reboot the whole system or just x?
[22:38] <comatsu> i just installed wicd and dont have any idea how to get it to recognisa my ralink usb adapter.. ideas?
[22:38] <alan_m> Alan, yup :)
[22:38] <keit1> nixnoob: compiz running i presume too?
[22:38] <tecywiz121> b4l74z4r: depends on the errer
[22:38] <Lamego> b4l74z4r, depends on the type of error
[22:38] <tecywiz121> b4l74z4r: system is safer tho
[22:38] <b4l74z4r> ok
[22:38] <keit1> CareBerry: like what mac uses to launch apps
[22:38] <ItchyHoBo> keit1, u will find it funny but nexuiz runs fine on my mobo's intel965 chipset;
[22:39] <binarical-app> briareos90: that will reset most of your gnome settings....i did this on my server, it dosnt have alot of stuff on it... no gui and the like.... it worked.... ither then that i wouldnt know how to help you
[22:39] <nixnoob> keit1, yes but it was never a problem on my lappy with a geforce 8600 i could run all games winie or otherwise fullscreen and compiz no problems
[22:39] <keit1> ItchyHoBo: lol... typical
[22:39] <ItchyHoBo> keit1, finished the whole thing too; was a bit difficult near the end
[22:39] <keit1> nixnoob: this is what make's linux not for the faint-hearted.  hardware is always varying
[22:40] <keit1> ItchyHoBo: it looks pretty hot
[22:40] <Who__> anyone help with X server - dim screen (because of thin, moving black lines on screen)
[22:40] <ItchyHoBo> keit1, it is ;)
[22:40] <jPratt> How do i Port forward
[22:40] <GlenQuagmire> hi all
[22:40] <ItchyHoBo> hi there
[22:40] <keit1> ItchyHoBo: still... waiting for UTIII
[22:40] <nixnoob> keit1, i kno ive found an archived thread which discusses the same problem it seems to be an issue with xorg and dual monitors with fullscreen games,
[22:41] <keit1> nixnoob: there you go.. are you using xinerrama?
[22:41] <nixnoob> keit1, no one reports hard reboots but i guess anything is possible
[22:41] <nixnoob> keit1, twinview
[22:41] <jPratt> How do you port forward
[22:41] <b4l74z4r> i installed second life, and to launch it, i had to type "./" in front of the launch file, why is that?
[22:41] <void^> b4l74z4r: . is not in $PATH
[22:41] <ItchyHoBo> keit1, UTIII is gonna murder by onboard gfx thingy :(
[22:41] <tecywiz121> b4l74z4r: that means that you are loading the file from the current dir
[22:41] <Lamego> b4l74z4r, that means the command should be executed from the current directory
[22:41] <keit1> nixnoob: well i'm sure it will be addressed at some point ;)
[22:41] <Jowi> keit1, ItchyHoBo : FYI just finished a game of Urban Terror - runs ok on intel integrated (945GM here)
[22:41] <keit1> ItchyHoBo: muhahahaha
[22:41] <b4l74z4r> ok
[22:42] <jPratt> How do i find my private ip
[22:42] <keit1> jPratt: iwconfig
[22:42] <ItchyHoBo> :`(
[22:42] <Lamego> jPratt, ifconfig
[22:42] <Chousuke> whatismyip.com
[22:42] <Chousuke> ifconfig doesn't show it if you're behind a router :P
[22:42] <Chousuke> that does NAT, that is
[22:42] <Jowi> jPratt, http://www.whatismyip.com (in case you are behind a router)
[22:42] <LjL> Chousuke: that'll give him his public ip
[22:42] <Lamego> "private ip" usuall referes to the LAN ip, so yes, it does show
[22:42] <rambo3> can somone recomend cd burning program that works well in 64 bit
[22:42] <ItchyHoBo> Jowi, yeh i gues you could do basic gaming on intel
[22:43] <Chousuke> ah right
[22:43] <jPratt> I am behind a router
[22:43] <Chousuke> then, yes, ifconfig
[22:43] <Lamego> jPratt, you mean, lan ip, or internet ip, from your router ?
[22:43] <Jowi> jPratt, your other alternative is to look in the router config/settings.
[22:43] <titanium88> is it possible to print from ubuntu 64 bit running as a virtual machine in VMWare Fusion in OSX 10.5.2 ?
[22:43] <jPratt> I need to port forward so....
[22:43] <LjL> jPratt, if you're looking for your *private* IP (the one internal to your network), then "ifconfig". if you're looking for your *public* IP (the one visible on the Internet), then it's 68.217.128.54
[22:43] <ItchyHoBo> ok ppl gotta study my accounting; bye
[22:43] <katella> does it make any sense that I'd have sound using wine and wow, but no sound in the rest of ubuntu?
[22:43] <patrick_> im running gutsy gibbon on my presario laptop, i can sort of hear my speakers when they are turned up all the way using the physical controls, how do i turn up the "master" volume control??
[22:44] <keit1> ItchyHoBo:  peace
[22:44] <Lamego> jPratt, ok, so you want the IP from ifconfig, but make sure it is static :P
[22:44] <thoreauputic> rambo3: any cd burner in the repositories should work fine in 64 bit AFAIK
[22:44] <keit1> patrick_: volume icon top right
[22:44] <keit1> patrick_: double click if needs be
[22:44] <Jowi> jPratt, look in your router. look for "attached devices" that will tell which ip addresses are in use at the moment. then, depending on the router, look for "port forwarding" or "virtual server" and do the port forwarding from there.
[22:45] <Tatster> Is anyone around that can assist me with a problem I've got with LVM logical volumes, please?
[22:45] <patrick_> keit1 its turned up all the way, still can barely hear anything, but i know the speakers work, the notebook's brand new!
[22:45] <keit1> Tatster: just ask your question bro
[22:45] <timewriter> anyone knows how to install new KDE theme ?
[22:45] <titanium88> is it possible to print from ubuntu 64 bit running as a virtual machine in VMWare Fusion in OSX 10.5.2 ?
[22:45] <keit1> patrick_: have you looked in the advanced settings?
[22:45] <thoreauputic> timewriter: try #kubuntu
[22:45] <patrick_> keit1 nope where should i go?
[22:45] <dougsko> patrick_: try 'alsamixer' from a terminal
[22:46] <timewriter> thank you
[22:46] <tecywiz121> titanium88, does he VM have internet?
[22:46] <titanium88> yes
[22:46] <keit1> patrick_: doubel click it
[22:46] <binarical-app> jPratt: if youd like to be able to port forward to a home server, then id sujest that you look into dynamic dns
[22:46] <titanium88> I am using IRC on it now
[22:46] <azexian> I run a dhcp server on my server, is there any command I can run to list all the dhcp leases it has given out?
[22:46] <camelrider> some movies on one of my partitions are deleted and the rest are corrupted, any hints what might have gone wrong?
[22:46] <tecywiz121> titanium88, could you share the printer in the host machine, and use it from the client OS?
[22:46] <camelrider> gutsy gibbon
[22:46] <patrick_> dougsko okay should i turn everything up all of the way?
[22:46] <Tatster> I'm trying to recover from a disk failure from a raid 1 mirror.   The outputs from my various LVM commands are at http://pastebin.ca/970152 - the issue is my logical volumes are showing as "Not available"  and I can't work out why/how to fix!
[22:46] <georgy_28_> azexian, : sudo nast -ethx -m
[22:47] <keit1> CareBerry: did you get it sorted?
[22:47] <titanium88> ahh I don't know. I am going to try it out now
[22:47] <dougsko> patrick_: no, just the one that fixes your speakers :)
[22:47] <CareBerry> keit1: the installer encountered an error copying files to the hard disk [Errno 5] input/output error
[22:47] <rambo3> well none have worked so far. meybe couse i have hd and cd on same cable
[22:47] <CareBerry> keit1: could be a bad cd?
[22:47] <camelrider> it's a fat32 partition
[22:47] <keit1> CareBerry: did you check md5 checksum or check disc for errors at startup?
[22:47] <azexian> georgy_28_: ok, installing nast now...
[22:47] <balor> When using a microphone I can hear what I say via my headphones, however applications such as Sound Recorder or Ekiga seem to record/broadcast white noise.  Is there some magic I need to do to make the microphone work?
[22:48] <georgy_28_> azexian, : sudo nast -i ethx -m
[22:48] <unop> azexian, you could also examine /var/lib/dhcpd/dhcpd.leases
[22:48] <CareBerry> keit1: i cant eject my disk...
[22:48] <briareos90> binarical-app: well it seems to have been fixed after removing the file sources.list.distUpgrade and reverting sources.list
[22:48] <thoreauputic> azexian: you can also see the machines on the network with arp -an
[22:48] <CareBerry> keit1: is there a command i can do from root to open it?
[22:48] <keit1> CareBerry: no you need to stop using it to do that
[22:48] <patrick_> dougsko none of them are working
[22:48] <lorenzo_> both vlc and totem open any file (mpg, wmv, avi) in black and white. what should i do?
[22:48] <acxty> hey guys a good program that monitor the filesystem and run a script when a new file is created?
[22:48] <dougsko> patrick_: sorry to hear that. that was my big suggestion
[22:49] <patrick_> dougsko thanks for the try
[22:49] <azexian> unop: thanks, I wanted something a little more formated, with out writing a greping script
[22:49] <keit1> CareBerry: try using gparted (system->admin->partition editor) to format the disc first.
[22:49] <azexian> thoreauputic: arp -an... trying now
[22:49] <mainfly> hi  , i have  problem with Nvidia drivers after upgrade ubuntu from 7.10 to 8.04  , it is  popular problem or is  just my ?
[22:49] <mehmet> !vlc
[22:49] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[22:49] <jPratt> im so lost i need to port forward for Azureus
[22:49] <comatsu> ive connected my usb wifi adaptor and it shows up (with lsusb) as: Bus 005 Device 010: ID 148f:2573 Ralink Technology, Corp. ......... how can i set its options?
[22:49] <azexian> thoreauputic: that seems to just list the ips on that machine, thanks anyway
[22:49] <keit1> CareBerry: remove everything then restart and when the disc loads choose check disc for errors instead of boot or install ubuntu
[22:49] <camelrider> you banned my id? fine!
[22:50] <camelrider> YOU BANNED MY ID? FINE!
[22:50] <camelrider> ME FUCKY FUCKY PROPHET MUHAMMAD'S DAUGHTER
[22:50] <CareBerry> keit1: ok another question, can i load from a usb drive?
[22:50] <LjL> we what?
[22:50] <tarelerulz> Totem is not the best at playing stuff.  It offten has trouble opening wmv and I have trouble with .mkv . Mplayer is one of the best hands down.  Smplayer is great interface for it too
[22:50] <CareBerry> keit1: i have a 8gb thumbdrive
[22:50] <thoreauputic> azexian: should list the ips of machines on the network -a t least it does here
[22:50] <keit1> CareBerry: yeah
[22:50] <azexian> thoreauputic: my mistake, that works, thanks
[22:50] <unop> azexian, http://zwitterion.org/software/get-current-dhcpd-leases/get-current-dhcpd-leases
[22:50] <jaggy> err, idk why, but when i write a c script, and i try to use gcc, it says:  test.c:1:19: fout: stdio.h: Bestand of map bestaat niet
[22:50] <thoreauputic> azexian: no worries :)
[22:50] <azexian> georgy_28_: ooh, I like the look of nast, that works too, thanks
[22:51] <deniz__> I've got the basics, now I need a bit of additional help with Imagemagick (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=743618)
[22:51] <keit1> CareBerry: you got to pendrivelinux site and there is a guide to doing it.  you have to use syslinux mtools and somtimes lilo if you corrupt the mbr.
[22:51] <georgy_28_> azexian, : look the man, you can do mote then watch the dhcp releases
[22:51] <keit1> CareBerry: doesn't take long to do.  actual HDD install is better though
[22:51] <georgy_28_> *more
[22:51] <keit1> CareBerry: handy to take with you to a friends though
[22:51] <jPratt> my frostwire wont open i have java
[22:52] <mehmet> hahah
[22:52] <mehmet> frostwire
[22:52] <jrhodes> mehmet: ME FUCKY FUCKY PROPHET MUHAMMAD'S daUGHTER
[22:52] <jrhodes> mehmet: ME FUCKY FUCKY PROPHET MUHAMMAD'S daUGHTER
[22:52] <azexian> georgy_28_: sounds like an interesting idea, I'd love a way of making it write to a log file, which I could then write a program to read, and give me a notification of every new machine on a separate machine,  but simply listing the machines is enough
[22:52] <keit1> CareBerry: listen, good luck with getting it up and running... i gotta go, peace out ;)
[22:52] <jrhodes> mehmet: ME FUCKY FUCKY PROPHET MUHAMMAD'S DAUGHTER
[22:52] <keit1> jrhodes: get a life
[22:52] <jaggy> any help?
[22:53] <mehmet> what the fuck
[22:53] <keit1> language!
[22:53] <katella> Okay. wierd story. trying to get sound in ubuntu, as I have none at all and get an error when I try test it, BUT I can get sound using wine and world of warcraft
[22:53] <Pici> !feeding the troll
[22:53] <ubotu> The above mess was caused by someone who thought it was funny (they're gone now). Please ignore it completely, since discussing it and making a fuss will only make them think they've reached their "fun" goal.
[22:53] <jaggy> when i write a c script, and i try to use gcc, it says:  test.c:1:19: fout: stdio.h: Bestand of map bestaat niet
[22:53] <tarelerulz> What is good bit torrent client ? Limewire has a Linux version .  I have used Azureus ,but I miss up java ever so offen . Anyone as good as azerues
[22:53] <amenado> jaggy a C script?
[22:54] <keit1> tarelerulz: transmission or deluge
[22:54] <jaggy> yes amenado
[22:54] <amenado> jaggy C program you meant?
[22:54] <jaggy> yes :p
[22:54] <keit1> tarelerulz: ktorrent if you use kde is superb
[22:54] <WildChil17> hello there how can I play dvds ?
[22:54] <thoreauputic> tarelerulz: deluge is pretty good these days
[22:54] <keit1> WildChil17: libdvdcss2
[22:54] <georgy_28_> azexian, : have fun ! ;)
[22:54] <keit1> WildChil17: medibuntu repos
[22:54] <amenado> jaggy get it straight. its a C program
[22:54] <azexian> georgy_28_: always! thanks =)
[22:54] <jaggy> yes, ok, but that still doesn't fix my problem, does it?
[22:55] <keit1> right really off now.... in a bit
[22:55] <WildChil17> keit1: can u tell me somethin more ? i'm on feisty
[22:55] <CareBerry> keit1: bye keit thanks so much
[22:55] <tarelerulz> thoreauputic ,  what do you use as a bit torrent client ?
[22:55] <amenado> jaggy-> what is your problem? please clarify and be specific
[22:55] <keit1> WildChil17: type medibuntu into google and libdvdcss it will bring up a guide
[22:55] <krhodes> ME FUCKY FUCKY FATIMA ZAHRA
[22:55] <keit1> CareBerry: no worries
[22:55] <jaggy> test.c:1:19: fout: stdio.h: file doesn't exist
[22:55] <keit1> !libdvdcss | WildChil17
[22:55] <ubotu> WildChil17: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[22:55] <unop> jaggy, how are you including stdio.h?
[22:55] <|DuReX|> http://pastebin.com/m61491e91 <- my dmesg output, I have no id how to solve this :( somebody could help me ?
[22:56] <amenado> jaggy do you know how to compile a C program and also include headers?
[22:56] <Starnestommy> jaggy: is the build-essential package installed?
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[22:56] <jaggy> #include <stdio.h>
[22:56] <katella> Okay. wierd story. trying to get sound in ubuntu, as I have none at all and get an error when I try test it, BUT I can get sound using wine and world of warcraft
[22:56] <jaggy> Starnestommy, i was just about to do that
[22:56] <amenado> jaggy-> what is your compile command line?
[22:56] <Starnestommy> jaggy: you're going to need it
[22:56] <jaggy> bleh, how do i put my sources on the internet? :s
[22:56] <jaggy> amenado, gcc test.c
[22:56] <lns> Does anyone know if OOo 2.4 will be backported to Gutsy?
[22:56] <unop> jaggy, you're missing the c headers there - make sure build-essential is installed
[22:56] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[22:57] <unop> jaggy, use a !pastebin maybe?
[22:57] <jaggy> okok, but how do i put my repo on the internet one's? :s because it keeps asking for my cd :(
[22:57] <titanium88> thanks for the help, sharing my printer in the OSX preferences worked great.
[22:57] <titanium88> can anyone recommend an IRC client for OSX?
[22:58] <Tatster> I'm trying to recover from a disk failure from a raid 1 mirror.  The outputs from my various LVM commands are at http://pastebin.ca/970152 - the issue is my logical volumes are showing as "Not available"  and I can't work out why/how to fix!
[22:58] <patrick_> hey guys i'm running gutsy on my presario laptop that uses altec lansing speakers...i know they work but i can barely hear anything no matter how much its turned up..how do i fix this??
[22:58] <unop> titanium88, you should as in an OSX related channel for that :)
[22:58] <thoreauputic> tarelerulz: either azureus or deluge - sorry about the delay - was afk
[22:58] <titanium88> haha very true. ok heres a ubuntu question then, is there a OSX type dock application for ubuntu?
[22:58] <jaggy> How do i change my repo from cdrom, to internet?
[22:59] <kinnune> whats a good IDE for c++
[22:59] <jaggy> nvm, fixed it
[22:59] <jaggy> yep, after installing build-essential it works
[22:59] <jaggy> ty
[22:59] <thoreauputic> moDumass: can you telnet to the server on port 26 ? Does the server require authentication? Is this just the smtp server causing issues or do you see errors with receiving as well?
[23:00] <Jowi> patrick_, this may seem like a stupid question but slipups happen.... Did you plug the speakers in "Line Out" or "Speaker" jack?
[23:00] <unop> port 26??
[23:00] <thoreauputic> unop: he has a weird ISP apparently
[23:00] <NW2190> Hi, in GRUB how do you specify the 'root' option for drives such as sda1, sdb1, etc?
[23:01] <thoreauputic> unop: for some unknown reason it uses port 26 for smtp ;)
[23:01] <xb3rt> Does anyone else have trouble setting up canon printers?
[23:01] <[-NetBoy-]> hi all
[23:01] <unop> thoreauputic, hmm
[23:01] <FloodBot1> randyrhodes: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:01] <thoreauputic> xb3rt: lots of people, yes
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[23:01] <binarical-app> NW2190: "root" is specified by this sign "/"
[23:02] <Tatster> xb3rt: I remember I had probs getting my i865 working
[23:02] <Hilikus> hey guys
[23:02] <xb3rt> thoreauputic: is their a fix for it? I've got a IP90
[23:02] <thoreauputic> moDumass: you're sure port 26 is right? It's very odd...
[23:02] <NW2190> binarical-app: I mean like 'root (hd1,1)'
[23:02] <Hilikus> im trying to configure a Motorola Wildcard X100P dial up modem under ubuntu 7.10, any ideas if it is compatible at all?
[23:02] <Starnestommy> NW2190: it's usually root(X,Y) where X is the hard disk number and Y is the partition number.
[23:03] <thoreauputic> xb3rt: hit Canon with a cluebat and get them to release specs for their hardware? I don't know, sorry.
[23:03] <xb3rt> thoreauputic: would a windows driver work?
[23:03] <Jowi> patrick_, if you plugged it into the correct jack, run "alsamixer" in a terminal and see if any channels are set low or even turned off. you adjust the volume in alsamixer with the up and down arrow. press M to mute/unmute. press ESC to exit.
[23:03] <patrick_> jowi, its a laptop with built in speakers..however if i use any external speakers or headphones it works. also if i put my cursor over the volume icon in the top right corner it says speaker
[23:03] <binarical-app> NW2190: i think your trying to specify such things as / , /home ,/var and such?
[23:04] <NW2190> Starnestommy: Ya that's what I thought, but I don't know how to find those numbers, and I think they switch every time I start up...
[23:04]  * alan_m lets out one long exhale.....
yeh its the one specified by bluehost
[23:04] <Tatster> xb3rt: I think in the end for my i865 I grabbed a driver from turboprint, paid a small amount of money to remove their watermark, and it works ok now
[23:04] <NW2190> I had to use the UUID's in fstab to get it to work
[23:04] <georgy_28_>  xb3rt : http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-iP90
[23:04] <WildChil17> I'm a little confused what file do I have t open for playing dvds ?
[23:04] <thoreauputic> xb3rt: How? with ndiswrapper or something? I have no idea. HAve you ggogled your printer model with the keywords "linux compatibility"?
[23:05] <NW2190> binarical-app: No I'm trying to get my GRUB menu.lst to point to the right partition.
[23:05] <Jowi> patrick_, I need to hit the sack. it's midnight here and I'm working tomorrow. good luck.
[23:05] <xb3rt> thoreauputic: yea, it actually shows up on my system and says its idle, but it wont take on any jobs
[23:05] <binarical-app> NW2190: srry
[23:06] <Tatster> xb3rt: according to http://www.turboprint.info/printers.html  the IP90 is supported by the Turboprint driver
[23:06] <xb3rt> Tatster: Is their a repo for Turboprint
[23:07] <thoreauputic> xb3rt: I don't think I can help - I have an old HP Laserjet 6L that Just Works. I have a Canon parallel port scanner that I might as well throw out - it has never worked with Linux
[23:07] <gone> Enter text here...Hi! I'm new to lunux and need to get some sugestions on how to update a program.
[23:07] <Pelo> xb3rt, look for turboprint in the cups printer setup dialog
[23:07] <xb3rt> thoreauputic: I like the iP90 its one of the smallest printers ive ever seen, works good alongside a laptop
[23:07] <thoreauputic> xb3rt: Canon are notorious for not co-operating with the Open Source community
[23:07] <gone> Is it just to install the new version ontop of the old one? (Pidgin)
[23:08] <Pelo> gone, if it is a prog from the repos , it will update automaticaly when  a newer package becomes availbale
[23:08] <thoreauputic> xb3rt: Pelo's turboprint idea is a good one - but I think you have to buy those drivers ( used to be so anyway)
[23:08] <Pelo> gone, you are better off waiting for the next distro but if you realy want to install a new version, remove the previous one first
[23:09] <Tatster> I had to, to get my i865 going.  $29 I think
[23:09] <jk_> i neeeed some help my ubuntu wont boot i get a busy box shell
[23:09] <binarical-app> gone: hey so how can we help you
[23:09] <gone> I got 2.2.1 but their homepage says 2.4.1 is the latest
[23:09] <xb3rt> Whats a good server distro?
[23:09] <Pelo> xb3rt, thoreauputic, usualy most of the driers are part of cups , if a specifi printer is not listed it is still possiblie that an available driver works for it ,  hence my suggestion
[23:09] <LjL> !server | xb3rt
[23:09] <ubotu> xb3rt: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[23:10] <Pelo> xb3rt, ubuntu can satisfy all your needs
[23:10] <binarical-app> i like 8.04 server
[23:10] <thoreauputic> Pelo: right - are the turboprint drivers in CUPS though? I thought they were proprietary?
[23:10] <xb3rt> Pelo: would ubuntu gutsy work, or should i check out the server version?
[23:10]  * Pelo has been reading on diggs that UBUNTU is now a replacement for the word LINUX 
[23:10] <LjL> an unstable version as a server? doesn't seem like a good idea to me.
[23:10] <Pelo> thoreauputic, no idea , like I said , look around
[23:10] <binarical-app> gone. you can try updating pidgin via the terminal
[23:11] <b4l74z4r> i'm trying to install a wine .deb file with gdebi and it says that libldap2 dependency is not satisfiable, i installed libldap2 with synaptic but i still get the error message in gdebi, what is wrong?
[23:11] <jk_> i neeeed some help my ubuntu wont boot i get a busy box shell
[23:11] <thoreauputic> Pelo: so that would be GNU/Ubuntu ? *grin*
[23:11] <LjL> b4l74z4r: why would you be installing WINE from a raw .deb?
[23:11] <gone> Which ver. of the install files should I use? Does Fedora versions work on ubuntu too?
[23:11] <Starnestommy> jk_: did you recently update or change anything before this happened?
[23:11] <LjL> b4l74z4r: WINE is available in the official repositories
[23:11] <Draggin> Hey - would anyone in here be able to tell me where I can find out about the legality of libdvdread3?  I just see everywhere that it in 'some' countries usage may be legal and that I should check this... Where the hell do I check that?  I can't seem to find anything which would indicate in which countries I'd be allowed to use it or not
[23:11] <Pelo> xb3rt, that's not how it works,   gutsy is a release,   server is just an install cd with a specific set of packages selected for the installation,   you can actualy use a server cd to install a full ubuntu if you want , or anyother way around
[23:11] <b4l74z4r> LjL, i don't want the latest version, theres some issues with it
[23:12]  * Pelo pokes thoreauputic 's eyes out 
[23:12] <LjL> Draggin, you shouldn't seek legal advice in an IRC support channel. the bottom line is, nobody will care, mostly likely, no matter which country you're in.
[23:12] <xb3rt> Pelo: so the server cd would get installed onto a gutsy setup?
[23:12] <binarical-app> gone: are you running ubuntu ? if so then it should be part of the default desktop environment. this way simply upgrading via terminal should cover you
[23:12] <LjL> b4l74z4r, the one in the official repositories isn't the latest version
[23:12] <Slart>  Draggin: I'm just guessing here.. but in some countries it's illegal to circumvent protection schemes...I think most of EU has approved that law
[23:12] <Pelo> xb3rt, same base , no gui,  no x , and the LAMP stuff basicaly
[23:12] <Draggin> LjL - I know, but I care about these things :)  And I just want to know where I can find this info
[23:12] <thoreauputic> Pelo: code of conduct violation! *grin*
[23:12] <LjL> b4l74z4r: 0.9.46-0ubuntu1 is the version in the repositories
[23:13] <beshy> has anyone in here experienced something like this? if I so much as touch my touchpad, both it and the keyboard become 100% unresponsive, forcing a reboot to regain control of the keyboard
[23:13] <alan_m> Draggin, go seek legal advice from an attorney if your unsure, we definately dont have law degrees in here :)
[23:13] <Draggin> Slart, makes sense, but then, how much sense does it make to deny people the right to watch movies that they paid for?
[23:13] <xb3rt> Pelo: no gui? whats it look like on boot a prompt?
[23:13] <Slart> Draggin: oh.. and I agree with Ljl.. you'll probably just get shitty advice here anyway.. just look at my answer.. =)
[23:13] <Pelo> xb3rt, basicaly
[23:13] <b4l74z4r> LjL, i installed with add/remove and the version i got was 0.9.58
[23:13] <xb3rt> Pelo: that kinda sucks, isn't their one with a GuI
[23:13] <Pelo> xb3rt, ifyou have a gui version ofubuntu already setup you only need to add the LAMP stuff to get a server running
[23:14] <LjL> b4l74z4r: uh? are you on gutsy?
[23:14] <Mtc2> hi all
[23:14] <Slart> Draggin: we're bordering on !ot now.. but aren't societies about obeying laws even if you don't happen to agree with them?
[23:14] <b4l74z4r> no, hardy
[23:14] <LjL> b4l74z4r: then you should be asking in #ubuntu+1, for a start
[23:14] <LjL> b4l74z4r: hardy is not yet supported.
[23:14] <binarical-app> gone: you can upgrade with: sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[23:14] <b4l74z4r> LjL, ok, thanks
[23:14] <LjL> b4l74z4r: and downgrading packages is even less supported
[23:14] <Draggin> Haha, I guess so - which would explain why I'm so anti-social then :{
[23:14] <thoreauputic> Slart:  [23:14] <gone> ok, but I don't know how to do it in the terminal.
[23:14] <katella> sociality is overrated
[23:14] <Mtc2> vos não falaisminha linguagem inconstitucionalmente
[23:14] <LjL> !br | mtc2
[23:14] <ubotu> mtc2: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[23:15] <Pelo> xb3rt, you can also add a gui to the server install if you want,  I think we are getting needlessly complicated here, what is your actualy purpose in installing ubuntu server ?
[23:15] <michal_> hello anyone familiar with dv6000 hp laptops ..?
[23:15] <Mtc2> ubotu fala portugues?
[23:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fala portugues? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:15] <Mtc2> ok il speak english
[23:15] <xb3rt> Pelo: I have a desktop pc i built thats collecting dust, and I thought it might be fun to setup a server on it
[23:15] <Pelo> michal_, you are better off asking about your problem,  much easier to get an answer
[23:15] <Pelo> !pr | Mtc2
[23:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:15] <Pelo> !pt | Mtc2
[23:15] <ubotu> Mtc2: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[23:16] <alan_m> there we go pelo, was about to try pt myself :)
[23:16] <Mtc2> i need md5sum for ubuntu server 7.10
[23:16] <xb3rt> Pelo: I might make a website too, or serve some files
[23:16] <LjL> i had !br'd already for a start, but anyway... :)
[23:16] <michal_> pelo pleas use language like for child im a little bit retarded
[23:16] <Slart> Mtc2: I think those are available on the ubuntu site somewhere
[23:16] <Slart> !md5
[23:16] <ubotu> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[23:16] <Pelo> xb3rt, you can use your regular ubuntu cd to do that , all the packages needed to install servers are available in the repos after the install is done,  you can remove anything you don'T want from the default ubunutu install if you care to
[23:17] <LjL> michal_: ask your question.
[23:17] <Pelo> michal_, ask about your problem , not about your computer
[23:17] <Pelo> !pl | michal_
[23:17] <ubotu> michal_: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[23:17] <Mtc2> ok, i'll do. a by to you for de Pele's Land!!!!
[23:17] <deniz__> does any1 no of a gui app that converts pdfs to jpegs for linux or one for windows (and ill run it under wine) (freeware windows software please)
[23:18] <michal_> thnx
[23:18] <Pelo> deniz__, I think inkspot can do it
[23:18] <unop> deniz__, imagemagick's convert
[23:18] <saysay11> Hi, all
[23:18] <Pelo> deniz__, I mean inkscape
[23:18] <Slart> deniz__: I'm guessnig imagemagick or.. ghostscript perhaps
[23:18] <Mtc2> hello saysayll
[23:18] <polis> hello
[23:19] <deniz__> unop, i have imagemagick and its terminal not gui
[23:19] <LjL> deniz__: another solution - pdftoppm | ppmtojpeg
[23:19] <Mtc2> where you live?
[23:19] <unop> deniz__, right
[23:19] <saysay11> question, how do you guys deal with power save "drive spin downs" ?
[23:19] <Pelo> Mtc2, this is a support channel not a chitchat one, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:19] <Jberg88> hi I need help installing firerox beta 5 on my linux machine
[23:19] <LjL> deniz__: i don't see why'd you use a GUI for a batch conversion task
[23:19] <Pelo> Jberg88, ask in #firefox
[23:19] <binarical-app> Draggin:
[23:19] <Draggin> binarical-app?
[23:20] <katella> well that didn't work
[23:20] <katella> In trying to test my sound I got an error "audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Could not open resource for writing."
[23:20] <deniz__> LjL, well i could use imagemagick's terminal commands if sum1 could guide me thru it (ill write down in notepad as i learn and then ill never forget and eventually memorize it)
[23:20] <binarical-app> Draggin: you know that the reason its called soft ware is because its soft, and there ususaly is a way to force entry into any system or network.
[23:21] <Pelo> katella, check your user settings , make sure you have permission to use sound devices ,  menu > system > admin > user
[23:21] <Draggin> Ummm... binarical-app... Yeah... Okay?  Not quite getting what you're driving at.
[23:21] <LjL> deniz__, i'm more familiar with the netpbm tools. but it's easy really: « pdftoppm filename.PDF | pdftojpeg >outputfilename.JPEG ».   and if you want to do it with a batch of files, i can give you a command that will achieve that
[23:21] <binarical-app> Draggin: also the laws that are applicable to nrmal life are not the same as those that rule the internet.
[23:21] <katella> binarical: Here I always thought software was because it wasn't tangible in a physical sense, where hardware is
[23:21] <Pici> !offtopic | binarical-app
[23:21] <ubotu> binarical-app: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[23:21] <Draggin> binarical-app - hehe, true
[23:21] <saysay11> Jberg88: unzip firefox beta 5 then move the firefox folder to your home DIR then click on firefox, done
[23:22] <LjL> !offtopic
[23:22] <binarical-app> linear verses hypertext ..........i rest my case
[23:22] <deniz__> LjL, long distance fone call, have to go for now
[23:22] <Boohbah> binarical-app: did you take the red pill?
[23:22] <Pici> binarical-app: Please take this discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:22] <binarical-app> which does wich again?
[23:22] <Boohbah> binarical-app: you're going to sing verses for us?
[23:22]  * Pelo gives LjL  a boot , and an instructions manual on its usage
[23:22] <CShadowRun> hey, how comes full screen flash movies don't work in firefox?
[23:23] <Pici> w/hois binarical-app
[23:23] <CShadowRun> it just puts up this little window and then dissapears again
[23:23] <alan_m> !stop | binarical-app
[23:23] <ubotu> binarical-app: NOTICE - Please stop this discussion NOW. See !offtopic for things that are inappropriate to discuss in this channel. Continuing will result in action being taken.
[23:23] <binarical-app> this toppic is ended
[23:23] <katella> In trying to test my sound I got an error "audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Could not open resource for writing."
[23:23] <Pelo> CShadowRun, it does work , might be an issue with your install,  which ff are you using the one in ubuntu or did you try one of the betas ?
[23:23] <Pelo> katella, check your user settings , make sure you have permission to use sound devices ,  menu > system > admin > user
[23:23] <CShadowRun> default one in ubuntu.
[23:23] <michal_> on laptop dv6000 after powersaving mode, wifi connection is gone, only reboot helps , none gnome network manager iwconfig or etc, ii display that has connection but its not working
[23:23] <Pelo> CShadowRun, how did you install flash ?
[23:24] <CShadowRun> with firefoxes GUI thing
[23:24] <b4l74z4r> can i install "debian etch" deb packages in ubuntu?
[23:24] <Pelo> !flash | schallstrom_ try it this way
[23:24] <ubotu> schallstrom_ try it this way: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[23:24] <LjL> b4l74z4r: it may cause you a huge amount of trouble.
[23:24] <unop> b4l74z4r, no
[23:24] <Slart> b4l74z4r: don't
[23:24] <CShadowRun> "You need plugins to display content on this page", clicked that button, it appeared to use synaptic to install flash, it all seems to work nicely.
[23:24] <b4l74z4r> ok
[23:24] <CShadowRun> apart from no full screen windows :S
[23:24] <Slart> b4l74z4r: you might be able to install them.. but you'll probably wish you hadn't
[23:24] <Pici> b4l74z4r: Its technically possible, not not reccomended.
[23:25] <CShadowRun> Firefox version 2.0.0.13
[23:25] <Pelo> CShadowRun, some site don'T let you fullscreen btw, try with youtube , just for testing
[23:25] <alan_m> Pici...or supported right?
[23:25] <CShadowRun> Pelo i've tried with youtube.
[23:25] <Draggin> See y'all later!
[23:25] <Draggin> Power to the people! ;)
[23:25] <CShadowRun> It has the same thing, puts up a little white firefox window for like 2secs then it dissapears
[23:25] <Pelo> CShadowRun, don'T install flash on linux with an online isntaller from FF , install it from the repos
[23:25] <michal_> its annoying if you want to left pc on for night
[23:25] <katella> Pelo: I checked, under user privs I have "use audio devices" selected for this login
[23:25] <CShadowRun> kk i'll do that now
[23:25] <ompaul> b4l74z4r, to understand the no search on google for abi breakage
[23:25] <fuhreal> Anyone use Eterm to display a root tail on their desktop?  I'm having trouble getting gnome to make it transparent on session start however if i launch the exact same command during my session its transparent
[23:26]  * CShadowRun completely removes flash with synaptic
[23:26] <CareBerry> so is there a way to transfer the ubuntu iso to my thumbdrive and have ubuntu look to the drive for the install?
[23:26] <Pici> alan_m: of course.
[23:26] <Pelo> katella, do you get any sound at all on this comp or are you just having problems with that command line thig ?
[23:27] <Pelo> CShadowRun, also do a search for flash and delete what you find
[23:27] <CShadowRun> yea, i only had flashplugin-nonfree
[23:27] <CShadowRun> thats what i want, right?
[23:27] <Smfter> where can I get cstdlib.h for gutsy?
[23:27] <alan_m> CShadowRun: yes
[23:28] <Pelo> CareBerry,  I think you can unpack the iso and copy it to the top level of your usb drive and then boot from the usb , but no garranties
[23:28] <katella> Pelo: I get no sound at all from any flashes, tests, etc, EXCEPT for when I've loaded wow with wine
[23:28]  * CShadowRun installs it again
[23:28] <Pelo> katella, how about music files and cd ?
[23:28] <alan_m> Pelo: close but not quite, some iso's have configuration files that need to be edited or else you get all kinds of errors.
[23:28] <Pelo> katella, is this a wine issue ?
[23:29] <alan_m> pelo, your computer looks for files that arent there but are stated that they are by configuration files, and it will get very cranky...very quickly i might add. lol
[23:29] <WildChil17>  Ican play dvds even with vlc, my question is how can play it like that I have a menu ?!?
[23:29] <katella> pelo: No. I just think it's wierd that I can go into system -> sound and try to test my sound and it fails, but in wine my sound works. No idea why
[23:29] <CShadowRun> still the same problem, i click full screen and a little firefox window comes up
[23:29] <CShadowRun> as soon as i try to interact with the window, it dissapears
[23:29]  * Pelo was looking at 8 gig usb flash drives last week but he might just buy a new floor nozzle for his vacuum instead 
[23:30]  * alan_m has a 4 gig, the next week after i got it, they came out with an 8 :(
[23:30] <amenado> CareBerry-> https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/installation-guide/i386/index.html
[23:30] <_FreeSpirit_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62074/ i have that problem can some one can tell if is bug of anope or mine?
[23:30] <Pelo> alan_m, don't tell me tell CareBerry
[23:31] <CShadowRun> i have emerald and compiz installed, think that might have something to do with it?
[23:31] <Pelo> !sound | katella have you reviewed this ?
[23:31] <ubotu> katella have you reviewed this ?: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[23:31] <WildChil17>  Ican play dvds even with vlc, my question is how can play it like that I have a menu  anyone ?
[23:31] <Pelo> alan_m,  8 gig at half the price you paid for the 4 gig ?
[23:31] <alan_m> CareBerry: read the comment i gave to pelo, i thought it was for him, didnt realize it wa sdirected to you.
[23:31] <alan_m> pelo, yep
[23:32] <katella> pelo, nopes. but will check now
[23:32] <alan_m> CareBerry: you might have to scroll up now to see it
[23:32] <Smfter> anyone have cstdlib.h?
[23:32] <Smfter> lying around somewhere.. haha
[23:32] <CareBerry> alan_m: k i saw it thanks :)
[23:32] <_FreeSpirit_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62074/ i have that problem can some one can tell how to solve it?
[23:32] <Starnestommy> Smfter: I think it's just cstdlib not cstdlib.h
[23:33]  * Pelo only has a 256 meg usb flash drive on his keyring,  he keeps a backup of his accounting files on it , and his CV , doesn't realy need more 
[23:33] <Starnestommy> _FreeSpirit_: did you configure it correctly?
[23:33] <WildChil17> Oh c'mon... I never really play a dvd with linux... but when I click on a vob file the episode will start playing... but I wanna play it with menu! Like in dvd player in windoze. So what program can I configure so I would see menu ?
[23:33] <thoreauputic> Smftre: I did, but I threw it out in the last neighbourhood cleanup ;p
[23:33] <bart1105> good day. what is the best way to intall new fonts on an ubuntu system?
[23:33] <_FreeSpirit_> Starnestommy,  yep the configure gonne well
[23:33] <alan_m> CareBerry: your welcome
[23:33] <Starnestommy> _FreeSpirit_: did you correctly set the installation paths?
[23:34] <_FreeSpirit_> yep
[23:34] <CShadowRun> Fixed it sorta, it was emerald, firefox full screen windows still have a window frame though
[23:34] <CShadowRun> guess that'll do.
[23:34] <Smftre> heh
[23:34] <mattgyver83> Is there a program (or a way to) to extract pages from a multipage PDF document?
[23:35] <WildChil17> where can I get dvd menu ?
[23:35] <Redeye2> I am having a problem with UBUNTU on my Dell D820. When I have more than 2 people logged in and we start the xlock screen saver, the screen will go all white and will not respond, I have to hit ctrl alt delete to get the logon window again.
[23:35] <WildChil17> I'm gonna be annoyinggggggggggggg
[23:35] <Redeye2> ctrl alt backspace I mean... to kill the xserver..
[23:35] <plurt> how do I replace my inittab?
[23:35] <thoreauputic> WildChil17: then you're going be kickkkkedddd!
[23:35] <Pelo> WildChil17, you're gonna get banned
[23:35] <Smftre> minus the .h it is :P
[23:36] <_FreeSpirit_> Starnestommy, yes i did
[23:36] <binarical-app> whois pelo
[23:36] <Redeye2> Does anyone have any ideas why that happens?
[23:36] <Pelo> WildChil17, just state the problem and we'll try to get rid of you as soon as posslble
[23:36] <Starnestommy> _FreeSpirit_: do you also have build-essential installed?
[23:36] <toed> can i set gnome-terminal to open firefox when i single click on a url?
[23:36] <_FreeSpirit_> sure Starnestommy
[23:36] <Pelo> binarical-app,  a fixture in this channel
[23:37] <Starnestommy> _FreeSpirit_: I can't tell what's causing it.  It's probably a bug in anope
[23:37] <thoreauputic> toed: in xchat? in nautilus? or what?
[23:37] <_FreeSpirit_> Starnestommy, 2 against 0 anope bug wins
[23:37] <code_kill> does anyone know how to get, or what needs to install, to get the "weather tool --> map" to work
[23:37] <Pelo> toed, i think you are asking for too muich but I might be wrong
[23:37] <_FreeSpirit_> thx
[23:37] <WildChil17> Pelo: I can play dvds if I click on a vob file with vlc. But where is the menu? I'm trying to watch Jericho and choose a certain episode but I can't ... since tehre is no menu..
[23:37] <_FreeSpirit_> Starnestommy, thx
[23:38] <toed> thoreauputic: uh, in gnome-terminal
[23:38] <Pelo> WildChil17, easy fix
[23:38] <thoreauputic> toed: oops - remefial reading class for me
[23:38] <toed> Pelo: it can detect the links, i can right click them to open the browser, but i'd like to single left click
[23:38] <Pelo> !dvd > WildChil17 check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[23:38] <Odd-rationale> WildChil17: You may nees libdvdcss to have menu
[23:38] <Pici> WildChil17: In vlc, choose open folder, and pick the folder that contains the dvd vobs
[23:38] <toed> or double click
[23:38] <thoreauputic> and rremedial ttyping tttoo
[23:38] <Pelo> toed, did you check in the profile settings ?
[23:39] <Redeye2> Anyone one??
[23:39] <toed> Pelo: yeah i didn't find anything
[23:39] <Pelo> Redeye2, restate the problem , you are not being ignored
[23:39] <Redeye2> I am having a problem with UBUNTU on my Dell D820. When I have more than 2 people logged in and we start the xlock screen saver, the screen will go all white and will not respond, I have to hit ctrl alt backspace to get the logon window again.
[23:39] <Pelo> toed, you could try looking around in gconf-editor but I have doubts,   you could try the gnome forums maybe
[23:39] <toed> ok thanks
[23:40] <Killeroid> hi, anyone know what file to manually edit to change which wireless interface is enabled by which module?
[23:40] <sarah___> hey guys, anyone know anything about gnome themes, i have a problem with mine
[23:40] <alan_m> Can you be more specific sarah___?
[23:40] <sarah___> sure alan_m
[23:40] <thoreauputic> sarah___: just state the problem
[23:40] <Pelo> Redeye2, I don'T have an answer for you ,  I recommend you do a forum search for xlock , www.ubuntuforums.org
[23:40] <sarah___> the font doesnt show up for my aMSN
[23:41] <sarah___> i need darker font or something?
[23:41] <sarah___> darkfix-01 but it doesnt really work well
[23:41] <Redeye2> Pelo, I tried Google already no luck, but I'll give that a shot as well, thank you.
[23:41] <Pelo> sarah___, you mean like menu fonts or the fonts in the chat windows ?
[23:41] <sarah___> my xchat menu fonts are all right
[23:41] <Pelo> Redeye2, do you need to lock when you have the screensaver on ?
[23:41] <gouki> Has anyone ever tried GNOME online desktop on Ubuntu?
[23:41] <toed> hey you can ctrl+click the links to open them, that's good enough for me
[23:42] <sarah___> its just my aMSN when i login, it has a "white background" and i think the font is also white
[23:42] <sarah___> but once i login, my chatting font is fine
[23:42] <sarah___> its only with the login screen
[23:42] <Pelo> sarah___, can you try changing the font colour or the background in the amsn settings ?
[23:42] <sarah___> let me try Pelo
[23:43] <seanh> If I download the firefox 3 beta from their site and use it on gutsy, the plugin install (e.g. for flash) doesn't work. How do I install the plugins?
[23:43] <Pelo> seanh, ask in #firefox
[23:44]  * Pelo can't stand betas , he's certainly not gonna support them 
[23:44] <alan_m> pelo, you dont like living on the wild side? heh
[23:45] <seanh> Pelo thanks
[23:46] <Pelo> alan_m, I'm gonna wait a week before upgrading to hardy just so I can see what problems other ppl are having before hand
[23:46] <binarical-app> careful there alan_m , pelo might ban you
[23:46] <alan_m> binarical-app: pelo loves me though :)
[23:46] <alan_m> lol
[23:46]  * Pelo snuggles up to alan_m  and stabs him in the back
[23:47] <alan_m> ok....that...was unexpected
[23:47] <alan_m> :(
[23:47] <frostburn> where can I reinstall a vanilla configuration file for say... snmpd.conf
[23:48] <jaggy> where do i get lamp?
[23:48] <Pelo> frostburn, remove the .conf file and restart the app. it should revert to default
[23:48] <binarical-app> linux apache2 mysql php ?
[23:48] <katella> Pelo: Still working on it
[23:48] <jaggy> binarical-app, xD yes
[23:48] <mc-george> where is the gnome volume control located?
[23:49] <Pelo> jaggy, LAMP is just a bunch fo packages,  Linux you already have ,  Apache, MySQL, and PHP or Python
[23:49] <ender> I have a QUICK question...the same restricted drivers that I have used do not work in the upgrade, it says I need a firmware...how do I get this working
[23:49] <binarical-app> jaggy: you should get a server edidtion
[23:49] <frostburn> Pelo, nogo, i thought i could get it again using dpkg-reconfigure, but that's not the case either
[23:49] <RoAkSoAx> jaggy, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP?action=show&redirect=LAMP
[23:49] <ender> It is for a Broadcom restricted driver
[23:49] <jaggy> binarical-app, no, i'm only intrested to test some stuff on it ;) i already got a server runnign
[23:50] <Pelo> frostburn, you could  sudo apt-get remove package name --purge , that shoudl get rid fo the config files
[23:50] <binarical-app> jaggy: so what do you wanna try out ?
[23:50] <jaggy> all sorts of things, mainly my coding's
[23:51] <WildChil17> Pelo: I've followed https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html and Installed libdvdread3 but I cant activate DVD decryption: /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh  COMMAND NOT FOUND. How can I get menu ?
[23:51] <binarical-app> jaggy: codings are fun
[23:51] <till_> helo
[23:51] <ender> Can anyone help me? I can't get a restricted driver to Enable, is there some fix that I don't know about...it was working fine before the 8.04 upgrade
[23:51] <till_> anyone know how i get cat2doc on ubuntu? :O it's not available through apt
[23:51] <binarical-app> jaggy: can you tell us a bit more about what you really want to do with lamp
[23:51] <legend2440> mc-george: system>preference>volune control
[23:51] <nomopofomo> is there a way to sandbox a program? isn't there a way to open inside of a "virtual computer" on my own computer?
[23:51] <Pelo> WildChil17,  in that last command remove the /exemple/ bit from the path, I don'T know why that is in there
[23:52] <jaggy> binarical-app, test my php, html, javascripting etc etc skills
[23:52] <alan_m> #ubuntu+1 ender
[23:52] <alan_m> try asking your question in there bud
[23:52] <ender> thanks
[23:52] <binarical-app> jaggy:okay so whats your set up
[23:52] <Pelo> nomopofomo, what are you trying to acheive exactly , what program are we talking about ?
[23:53] <frostburn> Pelo, thanks much, seems like a little overkill, but got the job done
[23:53] <WildChil17> ŠPelothanx
[23:53] <WildChil17> Pelo: thanx
[23:53] <jaggy> binarical-app, how do you mean?
[23:53] <binarical-app> jaggy: well for starters, how do you access your server
[23:54] <Redeye2> No luck there.
[23:54] <nomopofomo> Pelo, I just don't want it wreaking any havoc in case it's something bad.
[23:54] <CareBerry> do i need a swap partition?
[23:54] <WildChil17> Pelo: ok how can I run dvd and get dvd menu ?
[23:54] <Redeye2> oh well the search continues.
[23:54] <jaggy> binarical-app, it should be just localhost
[23:54] <x1250> Hi guys, any easy way to change the default key binding for loading the home page in firefox? I want to change the default ALT+Home
[23:54] <alan_m> CareBerry, highly advised that you do have one, and it should be double your ammount of ram in your pc.
[23:55] <RoAkSoAx> CareBerry, preferably
[23:55] <Pelo> WildChil17, presonnaly I use totem-xine ,  instead of gstreamer,  it will play dvd,  with menues,  youcan also set totem as the default dvd player in menu > system > prefs > removable media ,  so it starts totem when you pop in  a dvd
[23:55] <binarical-app> jaggy: what i think right now is that your trying to access your server via a web browser like firefox
[23:55] <CareBerry> alan_m so 4gb swap?
[23:55] <alan_m> careberry, if you have 2gb of ram yes
[23:55] <CareBerry> alan_m what does a swap do?
[23:55] <jaggy> yes binarical-app
[23:56] <alan_m> careberry, it takes over when you run out of physical ram, it is a portion of your hard drive that acts like ram.
[23:56] <x1250> CareBerry: naah, it depends. With 2 gigs of ram, then go for 1gb swap, unless you think someday you'll consume more than that
[23:56] <binarical-app> jaggy: do you want to set it up so that it has a name of yoru coice and is accessable outside of your network?
[23:56] <x1250> 2 times your ram is a too old advice
[23:56] <Pelo> nomopofomo, not what kind of havoc are we talking about there ?  but in anycase if you are that worried, you can always install vmware-server from the repos and then isntall a VM of ubuntu on that and run your nasty progs from there instead of from your host install
[23:56] <jaggy> binarical-app, nope
[23:56] <alan_m> x1250 i thought the general rule was double, is it half?
[23:56] <RoAkSoAx> CareBerry, swap is used instead of using ram memory, and it is usually 2 times of your phisical ram memory and less than 2gb
[23:57] <astro76> alan_m: there is no rule, that double is a rule of thumb that was outdated ten years ago
[23:57] <binarical-app> jaggy: is it a headless server or are your running it right now
[23:57] <alan_m> astro76, amazing that i still see it everywhere hmm
[23:57] <Pelo> alan_m, when you get past 1 gig of ram 2xram for swap is too much,  you can start cutting back
[23:57] <binarical-app> jaggy: but i dont need to know this to help you test your scripts
[23:57] <jaggy> binarical-app, whats headless?
[23:57] <alan_m> Pelo, ah :)
[23:57] <astro76> alan_m: yes unfortunately, including in here :P
[23:57] <hauk> can anyone answer me as to why the Update manager is going to remove compiz-gnome?
[23:58] <alan_m> astro76, guilty :/
[23:58] <Starnestommy> jaggy: if it doesn't have a monitor or screen, it's headless
[23:58] <binarical-app> jaggy:headless is just a server that has been set up and is accessable via the network , needing no direct controllers attached to run
[23:58] <unop> hauk, at a terminal. what does this say?  aptitude why-not compiz-gnome
[23:58] <Pelo> hauk, because eitehr is it no longer needed or enterfeers with some new feature, probably the second one since gnome 2.24 now has some compoziting stuff of it's own
[23:58] <jaggy> ooo nice, well, it has a screen :p
[23:58] <astro76> alan_m: now unless you want to hibernate, then you need swap at least equal to ram
[23:59] <michi> bye
[23:59] <hauk> unop: It said it was manually installed.
[23:59] <alan_m> astro76, yeah, thats why i do mine that way
[23:59] <hauk> Pelo: kk, we'll see. Will it effect my Compiz settings as is?
[23:59] <WildChil17> Pelo: funny but for play dvd is a comand: totem %m but there is no menus when I put dvd in :s
[23:59]  * alan_m goes to cut back my swap partition, brb