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Daisuke_Laptop2.6.2400:00
basyhi what can i use to capture avi from my webcamera in kubuntu...00:00
Daisuke_Laptopwhich is the default in hardy00:00
_myrtille_pteague: just understood what you really meant (probably): It's hidden somewhere in the gamesfolder00:00
linux3rAmyRose: you do tatos?00:02
amesHello everyone, I just installed Kubuntu 7.10 (via alt.) on an ond eMac G4. Now before the login screen appears, the screen goes black. X crash? I lookes at logs but dodn't know what to look for, so...  Is there a know problem with eMacs?00:07
pteaguethe volume wheel on my media keyboard doesn't seem to be working correctly... any ideas?  it pops up with the volume adjust window, but only changes it by about 10% in either direction00:08
amesI think you can change that in keyboard shortcuts00:09
amesat least in xubuntu you can00:09
amesif you tweak the command00:10
pteaguek, i'll look through keyboard shortcuts... in gnome it just works...00:11
axelHello! How to remove packets installed by using "apt-get build-dep ..." and "apt-get -b source ..."?00:13
ipxWhen I use KDE-apps on my gnome environment in my newly reinstalled ubuntu, my text gets VERY small and almost unreadable. I've googled a bit but didnt find anything?00:19
ipxIve tested Amarok and Smplayer00:19
axelipx: Perhaps the kde-control-center may help.00:19
ipxSo you're suggesting me to install it too?00:20
ipxIm using gnome00:20
axelipx: Yes.00:20
axelipx: Should not matter.00:20
ipxCant find it in the repos00:20
ipxkcontrol, found it00:21
ipx:-)00:21
ipxlol. the fonts in there is as small as smplayer and amarok. almost unreadable :/00:22
axelipx: I'd give it a try. I have read that this could help, but never tried it.00:22
ipxGreat, it works!00:22
ipx:)00:22
ipxThey were at 10 in fontsize :/00:22
axelipx: In case it is really to small: My father helped himself by using a magnifying glass - untill I showed him how to do that with the 3D-Desktop-Effects.00:24
axelipx: just to tell the little anekdote.00:24
ubuntuhi00:25
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_myrtille_hi :)00:25
SinNiji^_^00:25
ipxaxel: Haha ;-)00:25
axelipx: at leas one feature of Ubuntu he likes to use. But that's an other, long story.00:26
* arriesp gonna go00:28
SinNijihum.. Envy tool works on Kubuntu? well.. this is my 1st run on Kubuntu, infact I am still on LiveCD (Installing!53%)00:29
Daisuke_Laptopenvy is neither recommended, nor supported.00:30
Daisuke_Laptopthe recommended method of installing restricted drivers is the restricted driver manager, which is already built into ubuntu and kubuntu.00:30
SinNijiI know but the problem is that I got a 8800 gts 512mb00:31
axelSinNiji: Why use Envy when you can install the driver from the repository easily?00:31
SinNijiso to load up Kubuntu I got forced use Safe Graphic mode, and the Manager dont see my GPU00:31
axelSinNiji: And what's the problem with this card/ chipset?00:31
SinNijiThe manager dont see the GPU, and I am forced to install them manually.. and I am a little noob with Linux :/00:32
axelSinNiji: That's not a problem. "No Master fell from heaven" (German Proverb)00:34
SinNijiI am not scared :D I will fix in some way00:35
axelSinNiji: Some links that might help:00:35
axelhttp://wiki.x.org/wiki/radeonhd00:35
SinNijiLearn never is a problem (Italian Proverb)00:35
SinNijiMh! I will check it right now! Thanks00:36
axelhttp://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Installation_Guide00:36
axelhttp://xorg.freedesktop.org/archive/X11R7.0/doc/html/radeon.4.html00:36
SinNiji(8800 gts 512 is an nVidia, not ATI)00:37
axelSinNiji: Sory.00:37
kkathmanwhere is the best place to view the kubuntu settings for the firewall00:37
SinNijiIts ok, its ok!00:37
axelSinNiji: The command "lspci | grep VGA" shows what the system thinks what's your graphics card.00:39
SinNijiIts says.. "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0600 (rev a2)"00:40
axelSinNiji: At least it recognizes that nVidia is the manufacturer.00:40
SinNijiHahah.. Yeah. Thats something, at last:P00:40
axelSinNiji: If the drivers from the repository don't work: http://www.nvidia.it/object/linux_display_ia32_169.12_it.html00:41
SinNijiThe Italian page too :) Very Kind00:42
axelSinNiji: I'd prefer to try the drivers from the repository.00:43
SinNijiI think I will try the repository one!00:43
axelSinNiji: "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new" should do it.00:43
SinNijiI will try them after this reboot. Thanks and forgive me:)00:44
rowan_*/leave00:44
pteaguedo i need timidity running if i'm using alsa?00:52
tininpteague no, timidity is for midi emulation00:54
pteaguehmm... i'm not sure how often i actually use midi emulation... i'm guessing that should be a daemon is should be able to shut down without worrying about it causing problems?00:55
tininonly if you need karaokes or guitar and drums software00:55
tinini need it00:55
pteaguenope...  so it doesn't affect playing those old midi audio files does it?00:56
pteagueok, i'm forgetting something... how do i get the web shortcuts to work in konqueror? like gg for google01:09
Jucatopteague: they should be working by default. the default delimeter is a colon, so gg:something01:10
pteagueah, that's what i was doing wrong... i was trying to do `gg something`01:10
Jucatopteague: you can set it to use space instead01:11
JucatoSettings -> Configure Konqueror -> Web Shortcuts01:11
axelSinNiji: Then configure the X-server by "sudo nvidia-xconfig" and restart the X-Server with [Strg] + [Alt] + [BackSpace]01:12
eltunasextotengo una duda con la memoria swap alguien me ayuda?01:13
Jucato!es | eltunasexto01:14
ubotueltunasexto: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.01:14
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mot_hey01:23
mot_i have onboard sound plus an audigy card01:24
mot_asoundconf list lists both cards01:24
mot_i tried doing asoundconf set-default-card and setting my Audigy2 as default01:24
mot_however the setting won't "stick" and everytime i reboot sound by default plays out of my internal speaker - any idea how to fix this?01:24
Dr_willismot_,  fast and dirty way. Put the command in your rc.local file01:28
mot_Dr_willis, yea but doesn't rc.local get executed after device detection and boot? :P01:30
Dr_willisits the last thing of the normal boot process01:33
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mEck0Hi! when I doubleclick on a folder in Dolphin, it twinkles one time before the folder is opened. This makes Dolphin kind of slow. I have searched for the setting in Dolphin and System Settings, but haven't found it. what can it be?01:51
JucatomEck0: Kubuntu is set to use single-click to open files and folders by default. did you change it to double click?01:55
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pteaguewhat is strigidaemon? is that like trackerd & beagle?01:57
Jucatosort of01:57
patoe1hey everybody02:02
patoe1ok i have a question.... if anyones here02:03
mEck0Jucato: yeah thats right02:03
patoe1im a nooobs and new to linux and i got Kubuntu and im not really sure how to install anything :(02:04
Dr_willispatoe1,  use the 'add/remove programs...' iconitem :) for many things.02:05
Dr_williswhich is a front end to the apt-get system, adept is a more complex front end to apt-get.02:06
patoe1it wont let me open add/remove02:06
Dr_willisor use the terminal. 'sudo apt-get install WHATEVERpackage.'02:06
Dr_willisYou are using your initial user? or did you make another one?02:06
yotuxI just install gusty and I have not sound02:06
patoe1"Another process is using the packaging system database (proboly some other adept application ort apt-get aptitude)."02:08
Jucato!aptfix02:08
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »02:08
patoe1i dont have a clue to do with that code02:08
Dr_willistry this in a !terminal02:08
Dr_willis!terminal02:08
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal02:08
Dr_willisopen up a terminal, cut/paste the command..02:08
Dr_willissudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a02:09
Jucatoenter that command in Konsole ^^^02:09
patoe1its doing something...02:11
Dr_willisand this is a spurise? :)02:12
patoe1haha no02:12
patoe1im not totaly computer stupid, im pretty advanced but i know shit about computers and its stil not working...02:12
patoe1im going to try « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »02:13
Dr_willistry 'kdesu sudo adept_manager'02:13
Dr_willisdo NOT paste in the >>  << things02:14
Dr_willis:)02:14
patoe1yea lol02:14
Dr_willisyou dont want to know the # of times ive seen people do that.02:14
patoe1haha02:14
patoe1well im pretty computer savy02:14
patoe1but im new to linux02:14
patoe1im usually a windows guy02:15
neville_Windows :P02:15
patoe1XP :p02:15
Dr_willis!ohmy02:15
ubotuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.02:15
ubuntuhey guys question, I'm doing a complete reinstall at this point and I'm about to download an image, my question is, even though the webpage says it's not released yet, is Hardy stable enough to use at this point?02:15
Dr_willis:)02:15
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Dr_willisIm usingit hardy now.02:16
neville_?02:16
JucatoFritzel: you might get varying answers. you can try asking in #ubuntu+102:16
Dr_willisif its on a test system.. its ok. if its on the 'it must work for my company/school' i would refrain.02:16
Daisuke_Laptopit's stable enough to use.  it's not google-stable beta, but it's also not microsoft-stable beta02:16
Daisuke_Laptopdefinitely not on a production system02:16
FritzelJucato: er right ty, does that channel apply for kubuntu as well02:16
Jucatoyep02:16
Fritzelthank you /j #ubuntu+102:16
Fritzeloops02:17
patoe1wow its setting up alot of stuff...02:18
Dr_willisdpkg --configure -a   -- checks all packages02:18
Dr_willissome times  you get  crashes half way through installing a package.02:18
patoe1Errors were encountered while processing:02:19
patoe1 linux-image-2.6.15-51-38602:19
patoe1 linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-51-38602:19
patoe1 linux-image-38602:19
patoe1 linux-restricted-modules-38602:19
patoe1 linux-38602:19
patoe1....02:19
Dr_willisthats.. odd.02:19
patoe1really why haha02:19
patoe1....02:20
patoe1what should i do?02:20
Dr_willisit might of be saying it fixed the issues02:21
Dr_willistry a 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade' now02:21
Dr_willisthat will get the system all up to date02:21
patoe1ok....02:23
patoe1ok is there an easyer way then that02:23
patoe1i get a huge error02:24
Kr|ptiXhow do i kno wat graphic card i got cuz i wanna see if i can update it02:24
yotuxhow is your graphics card connected to your computer?02:25
Dr_willisKr|ptiX,  lspci02:25
patoe1Reading package lists... Done02:25
patoe1Building dependency tree... Done02:25
patoe10 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.02:25
patoe15 not fully installed or removed.02:25
patoe1Need to get 0B of archives.02:25
patoe1After unpacking, 0B of additional disk space will be used.02:25
patoe1Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y02:25
Dr_williswe dont need a pasteof all the info. :) just the imporntant bits.02:25
patoe1sorry02:25
Dr_willisnone of which you pasted was an error. :)02:25
patoe1lol i dont know whats important...02:25
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patoe1sorry back....02:27
patoe1idk what to do...02:28
Dr_willisHmm.. was there an actual error?02:28
patoe1a huge one02:28
patoe1the one i copy pasted02:28
Dr_willisit should of updated, then upgraded the system. and  then returned to the shell02:28
Dr_williswhat you copu/pasted was NOT an error.02:28
Dr_willis0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.02:29
patoe1dpkg: error processing linux-restricted-modules-386 (--configure):02:29
patoe1 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured02:29
patoe1dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-386:02:29
patoe1 linux-386 depends on linux-image-386; however:02:29
patoe1  Package linux-image-386 is not configured yet.02:29
patoe1 linux-386 depends on linux-restricted-modules-386; however:02:29
patoe1  Package linux-restricted-modules-386 is not configured yet.02:29
patoe1dpkg: error processing linux-386 (--configure):02:29
patoe1 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured02:29
patoe1E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg exited unexpectedly02:29
patoe1what anout that02:29
Dr_willis!pastebin | patoe102:29
ubotupatoe1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:29
Dr_willisnow thats an error message. :)02:29
patoe1lol02:30
patoe1thanks 8-)02:30
Dr_willisi  wonder how those could of gotten messed up.02:30
neville_I think the equivalent error in windows is a blue screen and hex codes :P02:30
Dr_willissudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-restricted-modules-38602:30
Dr_willisfor a start I guess. seens thers 3 packatges not confogured properly02:30
patoe1i just installed it , but when i did the GUI update i stoped it halfway though by accident02:31
Dr_willisheh..02:31
patoe1patoe1@Chase:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-restricted-modules-38602:31
patoe1/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: linux-restricted-modules-386 is broken or not fully installed02:31
patoe1i like to flood :)02:31
Dr_willisdo a 'lsb_release -a' and a 'uname -a' and tell us what those say02:32
Dr_williswe need the version of kubntu you got, and the kernel #.02:32
patoe1how do i do that?02:32
Dr_willisrun those 2 commands, read what they say. :)02:33
Dr_willisRelease:        #####.### for one02:33
Dr_willisuname -a - will print a line as to what kernel you are using02:33
patoe1lsb_release: error: no such option: -02:33
patoe1patoe1@Chase:~$ lsb_release -a02:33
patoe1No LSB modules are available.02:33
patoe1Distributor ID: Ubuntu02:33
patoe1Description:    Ubuntu 6.06.2 LTS02:33
patoe1Release:        6.0602:33
patoe1Codename:       dapper02:33
patoe1patoe1@Chase:~$02:33
patoe1thats what i got...02:33
Dr_williswe just needed the 'release' :) like i said.. heh heh02:34
Jucato!flood | patoe102:34
ubotupatoe1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:34
genii!paste | patoe102:34
Dr_willisdapper? egads thats old..02:34
geniiDr_willis: But still supported :)02:34
Dr_willisgenii,  support him then!02:34
Dr_willis:)02:34
geniihehe02:34
patoe1Linux Chase 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux02:34
geniiDr_willis: I got ere in the middle of it all, don't even know is current issue02:35
genii*his02:35
Dr_willispatoe1,  since this is a test box for you. you Might want to get a newer release of kubuntu  and install the newer version.02:35
Daisuke_Laptopalmost ten kernel revisions behind -_-02:35
Daisuke_Laptopbut yes, still supported02:35
patoe1how do i get the newer version....i DL'd it today??02:35
Dr_willispatoe1,   you downaded the 'lts' version wich is the 'stable' for businesses type version02:36
patoe1err..02:36
Dr_willisthe next LTS release is due out in a few weeks/days02:36
patoe1any ideas of waht i should DL and install02:36
Dr_willisdepends on how brave you want to be. :)02:36
geniipatoe1: Wait until after the 24th and then get the 8.04 release02:37
patoe1well im a brave guy this isnt my good computer02:37
Dr_willisIts not like its going to hurt the pc.. the worse thing that can happenis you have to reinstall.02:37
patoe1the computers blank anyways02:37
Dr_willisHardy - is the next release 8.04 version - You are using a version that is 2 yrs old. ;)02:37
Dr_willisthere are beta cd's of it out now.02:38
cuzntxwe use computors at work that their time runs backwards02:38
patoe1im confuzed :p02:38
Dr_willispatoe1,  every 6 months the next releae of ubuntu is released.02:38
Dr_willishttp://www.kubuntu.org/download.php   shows 2 versions.. you donloaded the older one it seems02:39
patoe1i need kubuntu though kuz ubuntu didnt work on this computer02:39
Dr_willisif kubuntuworks,, ubuntu should work.02:39
Dr_willisthey are identical at the core.02:39
patoe1hmm02:39
patoe1well it didnt02:39
patoe1but this works02:39
patoe1i like the blue better anyways ;)02:39
patoe1so gutsy?02:40
Dr_willisso you get to decide.. try to get the old version going, try the newer 'gutsy' release. or try the SOON TO BE RELESED version hardy - at  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/hardy/beta/02:40
Dr_willisGutsy is a safe bet. You can always reinstall/upgrade in 20 days or so02:40
patoe1well what do you sugest?02:41
* genii twitces02:41
geniiMy H key seems recalcitrant today02:41
Dr_willisIm testing out hardy. If your machine is a total test box, and you dont do any real work with it.. You could try hardy.02:42
Dr_willisif you NEED it to work.. stick to gutsy02:42
Dr_willisif you are running a company and want to pay for comercial support - stick with the dapper LTS02:42
patoe1well my good computer is getting work done on it and i wnat this one running i cant do a whole lot on it but i wnat to watch like youtube messenger and blah blah02:42
Dr_willisyoutubeis not 'work' :)02:43
Dr_willishardy can do all that.. as can gutsy.02:43
patoe1haha02:43
patoe1yea02:43
Dr_willisbut hardy is undergoing updates - it can 'break' at times.02:43
patoe1so ill try gutsy so i dont have to worry??02:43
MrJoeygenii> Try mashing down on the keyboard; I think the problem is that the H key is too high up to reach the inside button.  (I saw a similar problem with an M key on a keyboard)02:43
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amesthe H key is different though!02:44
MrJoeyIt's smack dab in the middle, thus prone to being lifted too high, possibly moreso than M02:44
patoe1so gutsy is better so i dont have to worry about it crashing?02:44
patoe1Download Kubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) the latest Kubuntu release02:45
patoe1that one?02:45
SlynderdaleHow do I make it default behavior to open files on a double click and not a single click?02:46
Dr_willispatoe1,  thats the one02:46
patoe1anyone waht to tell me?02:46
patoe1ok thanks02:46
Dr_willisin linux it pays to learn to 'think' and rember. :)02:46
stdinSlynderdale: system settings -> keyboard & mouse -> mouse02:47
genii_Bah ghosted02:47
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patoe1now how do i burn and ISO on linux :|02:47
stdinopen k3b02:47
pteaguedoes kmail have similar spam tools that thunderbird has?02:47
patoe1and weres k3b02:47
stdinunder multimedia in the kmenu02:48
patoe1thank you02:48
patoe1436 kb's02:48
kkathmanhow do I see what workgroup is assigned to my kubuntu install ?02:53
kkathmanand then change it02:53
patoe1ok well thanks for hte help02:54
patoe1ill install this one i gotta drive my dad someware :p02:54
epimethkkathman: the smb client can see any workgroup...02:54
epimethkkathman: do you want to share folders or see shared ones?02:54
geniikkathman: If you have a regular install it won't have one, since it will just use smbclient only02:54
yotuxif I want udf 2.5 support do i need to make my own kernel?02:54
kkathmanepimeth:  well ya I can access my windows box on the network, but cant see any other boxes on the network02:55
mEck0Hi! is there a good dictionary app for KDE? I haven't found any in by default so thought I will install one. btw, is there even ones that you can use offline without network connection? that would be nice02:55
geniiyotux: The short answer is yes02:55
epimethkkathman: you should see all workgroups on the network02:55
kkathmanits weird I can smb:/servername  in konq - and its shows up everything, but can just type smbl:/02:55
kkathmansmb:/02:55
NickPrestamEck0, there is kdict, which has the ability for offline usage.02:56
yotuxgenii: found a patch02:56
kkathmanepimeth:  I dont - it says it cant find any02:56
yotuxbut it states that i need kernel source02:56
kkathmanwell ok - now it seems to be working :)02:57
kkathmanlol02:57
mEck0NickPresta: yes, there exists one, thx a lot!!02:57
kkathmanhmm musta held my mouth just right02:57
epimethkkathman: heh.  nice one brova02:57
* kkathman hates it when things are mysterious like this02:57
geniiyotux: I know, I've investigated trying to get udf 2.5 support myself, since Vista uses it to make backups on dvd02:57
yotuxgenii: have you gotten it to work?02:59
geniiyotux: Not yet02:59
yotuxok02:59
yotuxgenni: on my other box running beta I was able to get it to work02:59
mEck0NickPresta: are you sure you can use it offline? because it doesn't seem so by default at least03:00
boblenyDoes anyone know of a way to edit ISO images?03:01
Dr_willisbobleny,  kiso - i think can do that03:02
Dr_willisdepends on what you want to edit i guess03:02
mEck0NickPresta: founded some info now....03:03
stdinyou can always do it the manual way: mount it, copy it's contents to another folder, modify the files, then recreate the ISO03:03
NickPrestamEck0, I believe you would install dictd and related dict-* packages. Have dictd running and then open up Kdict. In the settings, change the server to localhost (on the port dictd is running) and it should work.03:03
epimethkkathman: mysterious?  have you ever *tried* to access a workgroup using 9x / me ?03:03
NickPrestamEck0, check out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=14594903:03
kkathmanepimeth:  sadly, yes :)03:04
boblenymEck0: I tried that, but I wasn't able to copy the files...I can mount it ok, but even, sudo cp /path/to/mounted/iso /another/dir/ says it wont do it...03:05
mEck0NickPresta: thx a lot :)03:05
mEck0bobleny: okay :S03:05
boblenyOpps wrong person... Sorry last message was for stdin...03:05
Kr|ptiXcan someone help me  with fixing my graphic problem http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii118/kript1x/wowss1.png03:06
stdinbobleny: what's the error you get?03:07
boblenystdin: Sorry about the wait... it says this: cp: omitting directory `/media/iso/boot'03:11
stdinbobleny: for copying directories use "cp -r"03:11
boblenyWow...03:13
boblenyGod, I'm stupid...03:13
boblenystdin: is there a utility for creating iso images?03:14
stdinI use k3b03:14
boblenyK3B can create ISOs???03:15
stdinjust check the "Only create image" box when you choose "burn"03:15
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tidalwav1Hi all, I'm wondering where the KDE3 version of Kubuntu Hardy Beta stores its session files? I want to create a new session type that uses KDE with xmonad03:17
boblenystdin: I don't see that option...03:17
kamuiI screwed up setting up my locale03:17
kamuinow its generating all locales03:17
kamuiif I stop it, I cant apt anything until dpkg --configure -a has basically redone it03:17
kamuiis there a way to remove the half configured locales package?03:17
stdinbobleny: just create a normal data cd, then when you choose "burn" there should be several check boxes, one of them is "only create image"03:18
boblenystdin: Oh, that's cool... Thanks!03:20
machinatoorthis is a support channel for kubuntu?03:21
SlynderdaleDoes linux have an equivelent to a start/run command as in windows?03:22
MrJoeyIn KDE, you can go to K menu, Run Command03:22
JucatoAlt+F2, KMenu -> Run Command, right-click on desktop -> Run command03:23
SlynderdaleMrJoey: I meant in the terminal. LIke run command03:23
machinatoorI'll take that as a yes, I ran a linux game (savage 2) and when it crashed the screen started flashing black every couple oof seconds and anything clickable loses all text and graphics.  Rebooting does not fix.  Any Ideas?03:24
MrJoeyWhat does it do?  What's the difference between "run kwrite" and "kwrite"?03:24
MrJoeymachinatoor> Try a Live CD and see if the problem goes away.  If not, you may have a damaged video card.03:25
SlynderdaleMrJoey: Trying to find a way to run a command without halting the current shell process. Basicly running the command as another process.03:27
sl4mm3ri need help with moblock :/03:28
JucatoSlynderdale: "<command> &"03:28
Daisuke_IdoSlynderdale, just bear in mind that you need to "exit" the terminal rather than just closing it, if you want the launched process to continue03:30
Kr|ptiXcan someone help me  with fixing my graphic problem http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii118/kript1x/wowss1.png03:31
* Kr|ptiX is Away, Reason: ( at my friends crib ) | Since: ( Thursday, April 3, 2008. 17:51:00 ) Xlack v2.103:33
NickPresta!away > Kr|ptiX03:34
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metbsddoes 7.04 cd have kde4?03:36
MrJoeyIf you want to run a command in the background, you can type "command &", then disown03:36
moggerI just installed Kubuntu and the package manager says firefox is already installed but i dont see it in the internet menu in the K menu. Where is it and how do i launch it?03:36
MrJoeyThat will keep the detached process from quitting when the terminal session is ended03:36
metbsdi need kde4 plz03:36
NickPrestametbsd, Feisty doesn't have KDE4 packages, as far as I know.03:36
metbsdNickPresta: so what do i do03:37
metbsdisi 10G enough for kubuntu?03:37
MrJoeyI guess uninstall KDE 3, upgrade to gutsy, and install KDE 403:37
epimethmetbsd: totally03:37
NickPrestametbsd, you have 2 choices, I guess. Install Gutsy/Hardy and grab KDE 4, or stick with Feisty.03:37
MrJoeyBy uninstalling KDE 3, you won't have to download that03:37
NickPrestametbsd, 10G is more than enough for Kubuntu and such.03:38
metbsdi have 7.04 dvd here, is it trash now?03:38
MrJoeymetbsd> It is indeed wise to use CD/DVD RWs for Linux distributions. However, the 7.04 can be used to install and then upgrade.03:39
moggerHow do I know where firefox is?03:41
MrJoeyType whereis firefox03:41
NickPrestaOr, which firefox03:41
moggerhow do i launch it?03:42
MrJoeyDoes typing firefox work?03:42
NickPrestamogger, Alt + F2, type in 'firefox' (sans quotes)03:42
moggerit says03:43
moggerPackage firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.03:44
moggerThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or03:44
moggeris only available from another source03:44
moggerE: Package firefox has no installation candidate03:44
firecrotchmogger: what version of Kubuntu are running?03:44
mogger7.1003:44
moggeri just tried to do an apt-get install firefox and thats what happend03:45
moggerare my repositories messed up? I just got done with a fresh install03:45
MrJoeyMaybe you need to enable universe or something, though I thought firefox was in canonical03:47
firecrotch!info firefox03:47
ubotuPackage firefox does not exist in gutsy03:47
firecrotchUm.... that's not right....03:47
stdinfirefox is in main03:48
firecrotchWell someone needs to kick ubotu then :-P03:48
stdinwhen you install with no net connection enabled the repos are disabled, you need to re-enable them03:48
moggerah that's probably it stdin, thanks03:49
* firecrotch gently taps ubotu with his foot03:50
Pifferquestion: right after Kubuntu install, the internal laptop fan is not spinning, which app would make it spin again?03:50
Pifferwith just Ubuntu installed, the fan works fine..03:51
stdinno apps make it spin, it's controlled by the kernel. which both ubuntu and kubuntu share03:51
firecrotchPiffer:  Perhaps the computer is not getting hot enough that it needs to turn the fan on03:52
Pifferfirecrotch: it's getting hella hot :-(  As soon as I get Ubuntu booted from Live-CD, the fan is going full speed03:53
Pifferreading up on what lm-sensors is... maybe that is the key?03:53
stdin!sensors03:54
ubotuYou might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto03:54
Piffer:-) thanks03:54
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frank__greetings04:03
frank__anyone from miami?04:03
TeslaTonyWould anyone know how to retrieve a lost IRC password?04:04
firecrotchTeslaTony:  I believe you have to msg a freenode staffer04:06
stdinTeslaTony: ask in #freenode04:07
firecrotchTeslaTony:  /stats p should get you some help, according the the freenode FAQ04:07
firecrotchit lists all the freenode staffers who are on-call04:08
jimmy51anyone here use an ipod touch with kubuntu 7.10 ?04:24
thumperyes04:25
thumperjimmy51: yes04:25
thumperso what's the story with knotify4?04:25
jimmy51thumper:  did it require some crazy firmware stuff on the ipod?04:25
epimethhow can I get to the power management options?04:25
thumperjimmy51: no just some updates to amarok and something else04:25
thumperjimmy51: added a LP PPA to my sources.list04:26
thumperand tada, it works04:26
jimmy51thumper: got a tutorial link?04:26
epimethI have it set to dynamic but even when plugged in my cpu is working at "half mast"04:26
thumperjimmy51: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ipod-touch/ubuntu gutsy main04:27
thumperjimmy51: and no tutorial, sorry04:27
epimethhay thumper!04:27
jimmy51thumper:  gtkpod?04:30
thumperjimmy51: could be...04:31
thumperjimmy51: my memory isn't as good as it once was04:31
thumperepimeth: hi04:31
* thumper off to make a call04:31
jimmy51thumper:  memtest8604:31
jimmy51:)04:31
epimethanyone?  power management/04:31
firecrotchepimeth:  Mine has always done that, I've never really taken a look into it though, since I don't mind it scaling down when it can, even when it's plugged in04:32
epimethbut when its plugged in I *want* it to be at 100%04:33
firecrotchjimmy51: both amarok and gtkpod can sync with the iPod Touch, there's a guide here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone04:33
firecrotchepimeth:  I'll boot into Kubuntu and see what I can figure out :) I'll be back shortly :)04:34
epimethcheers04:34
jimmy51firecrotch:  that involves the jailbreak firmware stuff04:37
epimethjimmy51: firecrotch is gone04:37
epimethhe'll be back shortly04:37
chipbuddyif i'm having graphics problems in ubuntu (all white screen) is it possible switching to kubuntu will fix that? or is the lower level graphics stuff all the same?04:39
firecrotchchipbuddy:  You'll likely have problems in Kubuntu as well04:39
jimmy51firecrotch:  that involves the jailbreak firmware stuff04:40
epimethfirecrotch: lemme know what you got a chance :-)04:40
firecrotchjimmy51: oh, yours isn't jailbroken?04:40
epimethlol @ firecrotch04:40
epimethyou say that so surprised-like :-)04:41
epimethand you forgot the "yet" :-)04:41
firecrotchwell I figure since he's running linux, he's a geek.  and most geeks have theirs jailbroken :)04:41
epimethisn't ubuntu supposed to be the "linux for not geeks"  I mean "linux for everyone"04:42
jimmy51firecrotch: it was at one point, but i was stuck at a certain point04:42
Odd-rationaleepimeth: "Linux for human beings"04:42
jimmy51firecrotch:  i installed the bsd utils, but ssh was never available04:42
jimmy51firecrotch:  so i reverted to defaults.  i'd really like it to "just work" instead of crazy hacks... but apple = crapple04:43
epimeththank you Odd-rationale ... I was being silly04:43
jimmy51and... the tutorial for jailbreaking that i used seems to be down now04:43
jimmy51goals for this thing:  be able to put music on it (and remove it), pop3/imap mail client04:44
firecrotchepimeth:  Have you right clicked the Power Manager icon in the tray and gone to "Restore" ?04:44
jimmy51do you have a current link for jailbreaking?04:45
epimethawesome.  thanks firecrotch04:45
firecrotchjimmy51: I don't, but I read on Digg that someone just released an application that does everything for you04:45
firecrotchepimeth:  no problem :)04:46
jimmy51iBrick?  i saw one for the phone...04:46
jimmy51actually... with no native way to do it, i guess this isn't a kubuntu question anymore...04:48
jimmy51i'll quit wasting channel space04:48
firecrotchjimmy51: I thought that iBreak works on everything, I'd assume so since the iTouch is basically an iPhone with no phone04:50
firecrotcher... s/iBreak/iBrick/04:51
firecrotchI could be wrong, I'm not really all that familiar with jailbreaking, just what I've read about it04:52
MasticoreIs it possible to remove the subdirs in the menu in KDE? Instead of Internet>Webbrowsers>Firefox, its just Internet>Firefox, like in Gnome.04:52
jimmy51k04:53
jimmy51i'll try it04:53
firecrotchMasticore:  Sure.  Just right klick on the KMenu, and go to Menu Editor04:55
Masticoreoh, thanks04:56
firecrotchMasticore:  you're welcome :)04:57
nykohow to close a bug program04:57
nykosudo quit konqueror ?04:57
MasticoreDoesnt kde have a force quit program, like gnome?04:58
jimmy51nyko:  ctrl+esc04:58
jimmy51nyko: select the process and click kill04:58
nykoand for kil unknown process ?04:59
gkffjcsdumb networking question, can more than one service be connected to the same port at the same IP address at the same time, lets say that I have openvpn and ssh running on port 22, will there be a conflict05:00
jimmy51nyko:  kill whatever you want to kill05:01
jimmy51nyko:  (in kubuntu.... on your computer.... not in real life :) )05:01
nykobut i not find unknown05:01
nykojimmy51 hahahahah05:01
firecrotchgkffjcs:  Yes, there will most certainly be a conflict there05:01
gkffjcsthanks!05:02
firecrotchgkffjcs:  In fact, that's the whole reason that there are ports in the first place!05:02
neulhi LadyNikon05:02
neulare yu a real lady05:03
firecrotch!offtopic > neul05:04
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rodrigo_hola05:05
emilionecesito ayuda05:07
emilioalguien habla españoil05:07
emilionecesito saber como instalar05:07
emiliotengo kubuntu05:07
emilioquiero instalar flash player05:07
Odd-rationale!es | emilio05:07
ubotuemilio: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.05:07
emiliohola05:08
emilionecesito05:08
emilioayuda05:08
emiliopara instalar flash player en kubuntu 7.1005:08
emilioalguien me puede ayudar?05:08
madusersi05:08
emiliodime como hacerlo maduser05:08
madusermi espanol es mal05:08
emiliook intentalo05:08
Odd-rationale!en05:09
ubotuThe #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat05:09
emiliomi he descomprimido el .targ y no se como ponetlo05:09
emiliodime como puedo hacerlo05:10
kkathman!es05:10
ubotuAquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.05:10
maduserok donwload flash player para kubuntu de http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash05:10
maduserusa el tar.gz05:10
emiliocomo lo uso05:10
emilio?05:10
emiliocomo05:10
jimmy51emilio: "/join #kubuntu-es"05:11
maduserabajo select version to download05:11
emilioya lo hice05:12
emiliotengo la version05:12
emiliocorrecta maduser05:12
emiliolo que me falta es instalar05:12
emilioel archivo05:12
Ukonpoika!es | emilio05:12
ubotuemilio: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.05:12
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modocok05:13
modocmaduser soy emilio05:13
maduserok05:13
maduserpara instalar primero visita http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash05:14
maduserk?05:14
UkonpoikaOperators? Kick these guys out.05:14
Xcercahow can i install grub-bootsplash  , it's not showing up on aptitude or synaptic ,  are there extra repo's that i should add ?05:17
firecrotchXcerca:  I don't think there's a package for it05:17
Xcercais it just an option in menu.lst that i can add ?05:18
Xcercasplashimage=(hd0,0)/GRUB/myfile.xpm.gz05:18
Xcercafound it05:19
madusermodoc?05:19
pirate_chefhelloo05:36
Claybrain145ello05:36
pirate_chefI was wondering if anyone had suggestions on formatting my flash drive05:37
pirate_chefI used dd to erase it, and now it's hosed05:38
firecrotchpirate_chef:  Is there anything specific you had in mind? because you can pretty much format it like any other drive05:39
pirate_chefWell, I tried using fdisk, DOS format...that didn't seem to work05:42
firecrotchpirate_chef: Maybe parted will work?05:42
pirate_chefI've never used parted before, but I'll give it a shot05:44
pirate_chefthanks!05:44
firecrotchpirate_chef:  Otherwise you could try using dd to copy a working flash drive to the broken one05:44
Xcercaanybody know if i can use the gfxboot package on X86_64  ,  it is called xxx_i386.deb and i don't know if i should try to use it05:56
stdinif it's an i386.deb then no05:57
Xcercai just found a 64 ver  ,   nm , thx05:57
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atlantiszhang?06:10
patoe1hey06:30
patoe1hey everyone, im just wondering how i know if my kubuntu is totaly updated06:32
stdinif adept shows no updates available after you click "Fetch Updates", then you're up-to-date06:33
patoe1...06:33
patoe1thats under system?06:33
stdinKMenu -> System -> Adept Manager06:34
stdinor "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" from a terminal06:34
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patoe1it says another prosses is using the packageing system database06:38
stdin!aptfix06:38
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »06:38
patoe1*** qt_plugins_3.3rc (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ? it wants my input....06:42
stdinchoose "Y" to get the newest version from the package or "N" to keep the one you have06:43
a2hhi, i've been trying to upgrade to kde 4.0.3 with the repository given on the kubuntu homepage, distro is 7.10 kde4 remix, i've been getting an error with the konqueror 4.0.2 -> 4.0.3 upgrade.07:00
a2hthe error is "dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/konqueror-kde4_4%3a4.0.3-0ubuntu1~gutsy1~ppa1_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/kde4/lib/kde4/libkcminit_nsplugins.so', which is also in package kdebase-bin-kde4"07:01
a2hwait. crap. there's a kde4 channel? >_<07:02
* DOOM_NX good morning all07:04
stefan-fhello all :)07:04
patoe1ok i apened adept manager and i dont know how to see if its up to date now...07:04
stefan-fcan I restore a partimage image to a different machine?07:05
neptunepinkI'm having some issues07:12
Daisuke_Idoi'll say, everyone knows neptune's purple! :)07:12
Daisuke_Idoand on that note, i'm off to bed07:12
* Daisuke_Ido isn't exactly helpful tonight07:13
neptunepinkI suspect my hard drive is dying or something07:13
neptunepinkLike, I try to ssh in or something and everything dies07:14
fulat2khi folks, i've 2GB ram.  is it normal for kernel to use ~1.4GB of RAM for caching?  that's what's reported via free -m07:26
* Jucato doesn't see why not07:27
Jucatothat's actually good07:27
fulat2kJucato: i assume the kernel will magically limit how much ram to use as cache and never exceed the amount of physical ram?07:32
Jucatofulat2k: when the system needs more RAM for applications, it will reduce the cache to give room for applications07:33
Jucato!ram | fulat2k07:33
ubotufulat2k: A quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html07:33
fulat2kJucato: cool.  think i read that b4 though :P07:39
Jucatothen you should know :P07:40
fulat2kJucato: prolly didn't read it thoroughly :D  ahahah07:40
TeslaTonyKRecipes thinks that 2/3=0.75...is the universe about to implode?07:41
Jucatoprolly :)07:41
TeslaTonyIs there any way to fix this thing without calling on the services of wandering timelords?07:42
AlferedHichcoki think i have to reconfigure kde? how to do it? heres an error i got for wine http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/3246/snapshot1wn5.png ?07:48
Jucatotry reinstalling kde-guidance07:49
GandalfHi, I have a fresh install of kubuntu, with samba installed. I have a box with WinXP on it and am trying to get the two to see each other, already have a workgroup set up on Windows, and edited my smb.conf with the workgroup name.. obviously I'm missing other settings as they won't see each other. Any help would be greatly appreciated07:51
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* dwidmann is away: Gone away for now.08:04
AlferedHichcoki think i have to reconfigure kde? how to do it? heres an error i got for wine http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/3246/snapshot1wn5.png ?08:04
dwidmannAlferedHichcok: I would try running " sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"08:06
dwidmannI don't really have time to say much more than that for now ... gotta get ready for work08:06
Jucatodwidmann: please turn off your public away message later. thanks :)08:07
JucatoAlferedHichcok: I already answered earlier: [14:49] <Jucato> try reinstalling kde-guidance08:07
pteagueok, i suddenly seem to be having a weird problem...  i'm in firefox, press ctrl+f & up pops xterm...  wth?08:10
AlferedHichcokJucato,  what is kde-guidance. how to install it?08:11
AlferedHichcokdwidmann,  i have the latest08:12
JucatoAlferedHichcok: it's a package. you install it like any other app or package. Adept Manager or apt-get08:12
Jucatopteague: only happens in firefox? if yes, try checking Firefox's keyboard shortcuts (don't know where that is though)08:12
pteagueJucato> i just noticed it in firefox... seems to be doing the same in xchat & kate08:13
pteaguei went through & check the global shortcuts & nothing in there for ctrl+f ... there is an entry with ctrl+f under application shortcuts -> edit -> find ... which is what i was expecting08:14
Jucatopteague: maybe you set Ctrl+F in KDE's shortcuts to launch xterm? are you using something like compiz?08:14
pteagueafaik i'm not using compiz... might i have accidently done something to have activated it? i was previously using gnome, just switched yesterday & this is the first i've noticed it... but then this may be the first time i've tried since the switch08:16
albertronicoKubuntu es un coñazo al lado de windows !!!08:19
Jucato!es08:20
ubotuAquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.08:20
pteagueguess i'll restart x & head to bed... hope it works tomorrow...08:21
dennisterhey channel...could anyone help me write a shell script to start my server apps *after* bootup? I've already stopped them from starting automatically08:23
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kaihi folks, is there a GUI or ncurses tool to manage lvms? or is it back to good old lvmcreate et. al?08:24
kaiwhoops, brb08:25
kblinre08:26
dennisterthe way i envisioned this script is: bootup, then konsole opens, inits apache, which is interrupted by me being asked for rsa passphrase, then finishes apache startup, then other server apps are started08:26
dennister<---------total scripting newb here08:27
NyadHello08:31
pucko-Hello. Where is .za?08:32
phaedru2pucko: .za is South Africa08:33
pucko-alright08:34
NyadIm from there :)08:35
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NyadIs there a portable linux? like something which I can take to another pc and have access to all my files, like basically a portable pc but only with the software? I have a 120GB USB HD so I can use that for storage08:38
pucko-such as a live-cd?08:40
Nyadkind of but its using a hardrive of mine and I want to be able to install things onto it, so like a liveCD but with a hardrive08:41
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romantic_userÐÒÉ×ÅÔ ×ÓÅÍ08:47
adz21cNyad: u can get linux on a flash drive, only issue with that tho is some computing don't do booting from USB but its becoming less of a common issue these days08:47
Jucato!nickspam | romantic_user08:48
uboturomantic_user: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #kubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair to new users.  (Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead.)  The same goes for using noisy away messages; use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also /msg ubotu Guidelines08:48
Nyadisnt there a way to put in a CD with a bootloader that will allow you to boot from USB harddrive?08:49
adz21cNyad: infact at one point Mandriva were doing this CD and USB combo, when you launch the live CD with an appropriate flash drive it mounts the flash as /home08:49
Nyadso one would have to use mandriva?08:49
adz21cNyad: well, being Mandriva that was a payed for product i believe, and i don't think it did USB HDs, just the USB key provided08:50
adz21cNyad: but i can't see why what you wan't can't be done without fiddling08:50
Stilo!de08:52
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de08:52
NyadIf I put in my ubuntu live cd can I set it to boot from a boot partition on my external HD instead of MBR? that should work?08:53
adz21cNyad: well what you could do is install ubuntu on ur external hdd, then you can write grub to floppies and CDs, so install grub referrencing your external hdd to the usb drive and stick it on a CD, although your externall hdd may get named differently from PC to PC no doubt, but, its an idea08:55
adz21cNyad: then all you have to do it make sure the floppy/cd comes before hdd in boot order08:56
NyadI have ubuntu installed on my external hdd. so I must Install a new grub onto my CD or floppy disk and it will automatically detect my external linux boot partition08:59
adz21cNyad: dunno about automatically, i think grub works entirely from reading configs, which is why i am saying it might have an annoyance if your external hdd is referred with a different id/whatever grub uses on another computer, but i think you can edit that through grub on boot so it would be one of them minor annoyances09:01
defrenne_je ne sais que faire ici mais j'ai besoin d'aide qui peut m'expliquer?09:01
adz21cNyad: but this is all guess work i never tried this, just chucking the ideas i would be having if i wanted to do this at you :-)09:02
Nyadok thanks, I'll be careful09:02
defrenne_qui ecrit en francais sur ce canal?09:03
adz21cNyad: mind you there is something for restoring your Grub on the live cd so maybe that would help for auto detection?09:03
adz21cNyad: maybe it would let you go in, search for stuff grub can launch then pick your external hdd to boot from, dunno never used that function on the cd but i know its there :)09:04
Nyadhmm this could be useful to make grub re-autodetect all OS since I installed suse last night and cant figure out how to add it to grub/menu.lst09:06
brutushalo09:06
Nyaddo you know where this feature is? or how I can use it?09:06
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adz21cIt's an option on the live cd, i think its on the menu ... i just know its there a friend has used it before now, and its not uncommon for people to need to restore grub after installing windows for dual boot09:07
Nyadok I think I saw something on this so I'll look into it. but for the portable idea, would I put in the live cd and then when it asks with a menu it has  something like this.  boot: many args09:09
Nyadso maybe if I just figure out the right stuff to type there then it will boot from wherever09:09
adz21cNyad: thats one way to do, what i was thinking is maybe if the autodetect pics up your externel hdd and lets you use grub without needing to put it in the MBR maybe you could use that instead of having to learn the arguments and figure out the values for each arg specific to each system09:11
Nyadbut how would I make grub do an autodetect every time I move to a new system? is using a CD with grub on it or with the LiveCD?09:15
cdpukHello, anyone know how to copy kontact/kmail mail config to another PC?  I can't boot the installation right now - just got access to the disk09:16
cdpukCopying .kde/share/apps/kmail stuff doesn't seem to work09:17
adz21cNyad: the livecd, when u restore grub after a windows install for example I think it scans the available devices for OSes then builds up a grub to install into your MBR. If this provides a "preview" and a scans USB hdds you could go through the motions of restoring grub but just use the preview to launch your external hdds os instead of installing grub to the mbr ... like i said guess work, this is an assumption of how the grub restore process works :-)09:18
adz21cNyad: even if the preview doesn't let you launch an OS it would atleast give you the boot options to use, if you see what i am getting at09:19
Nyadok so it will just give me the info I need to get it to boot from the arcane device names etc09:19
adz21cNyad: thats what I am thinking09:20
adz21cNyad: assuming it gives you previews etc09:20
Nyadok thanks :)09:20
adz21cNyad: and is a reasonably quick process of course I never done it so i dunno how long it takes lol09:20
Nyadthe first time will take a while but once I know what I'm doing it will be faster09:21
adz21cNyad: well i was more talking about how fast a grub restore takes, i assume its pretty quick but i don't know :-) lol09:21
Nyadoh right :P09:22
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lopinCan anyone help me with usplash?09:42
lopinI just want an image...  Just a simple image...09:42
lopinNothing more...09:42
ere4si!usplash | lopin09:44
ubotulopin: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork09:44
lopinI've seen this...  If I knew what I was doing enough to follow that how to, I'd do it...09:45
lopinActually, that's the third time that I've seen that...09:45
lopinhttp://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p10/KnuxadowPanda/big_hal_start.jpg09:46
lopinI just want that image for the background...09:46
ere4sihang on and I'll work you through it09:51
stefan-fcan someone tell me where I can find the source from partimaged? I need something to download I was looking for that at google but can not find a source09:51
stefan-fcan someone help?09:52
lopinOkay...09:53
lopinPartimaged?09:53
lopinGD SYSTEM BEEP TO HELL!!!09:54
lopinOkay...  Is there a d at the end of that?09:55
lopinstefan-f, there's a source tarball on the homepage...  Would you like a link?09:56
ere4silopin: I've never done it before - it is not straight forward - there's a few steps...09:57
lopinI can tell...  I don't have any experience with C, and it's not just image here, copy, move recompile...09:58
lopinBut thank you...  I'm just starting to get a bit discouraged with some theming things tonight...09:58
lopinstefan-f, http://www.partimage.org/Download  The file there is a tarball with the source in it.  That should help you a bit10:01
CreationistMy motherboard is an older Intel desktop board and I need to figure out what the model number is.... how would I do this?10:01
ere4silopin: try reading this - http://news.softpedia.com/news/Change-Ubuntu-Bootsplash-Theme-55237.shtml10:01
plavcikhi, which app is used for indexing in kubuntu 7.10 please?10:02
plavcikI mean searchin in ODT, PDF, HTML, emails..10:02
lopinere4si, Thank you.10:02
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stefan-fhmm, okay thanks, I thought that was the client but it seems its the server.10:06
stefan-fThanks for help!!10:06
yao_ziyuanwhen kubuntu 8.04 goes official,10:06
yao_ziyuanwill 7.10's package repository still be updating?10:06
lopinOkay...  Moving off of the very annoying, and frustrating topic of trying to change that damned usplash image, how about we change to a simpler problem?10:07
lopinI have a very tiny flash animation that I want to be able to use as a wallpaper.  Is there any way to do it?10:07
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arunkalecan i wget files from one server to another via ssh?10:39
emilsedgh_yes10:40
jpatrickarunkale: use rsync10:40
arunkalejpatrick: what's that?10:40
emilsedgh_oh, not wget, you could scp arunkale10:40
jpatrickarunkale: rsync -aPz you@host:/folder/place /somewhere/local10:40
arunkalei was thinking i could zip up/tar a folder and wget it to another server10:43
jpatrickarunkale: you could, but I really recommend rsync over all10:43
arunkalejpatrick: rsync is for getting the files onto my local computer?10:44
arunkaleor do i enter that after i log in to the server via ssh10:44
jpatrickarunkale: you can do it directly from yours10:44
arunkalehow do i create a tar.gz file via the command like?10:46
arunkaletar -cvvf?10:46
arunkaleand then gunzip?10:46
arunkalenever mind, got it10:47
arunkale:)10:47
jpatrick:)10:48
pucko-add z to tar and you don't have to bother with gunzip10:48
arunkalepucko: for example?10:48
pucko-tar zcvf filename.tar.gz <files to be packaged>10:49
pucko-or j if you want bz210:49
arunkalei don't need to add a -r right?10:50
arunkalei have a folder in my current directory that i want to compress10:50
arunkalesorry10:50
arunkaleso to untar it, i enter tar -zxcf?10:51
arunkale-zxvf *10:51
pucko-yes10:51
pucko-and you won't need -r10:52
pucko-arunkale, the filepath is preserved in the tar.gz archive though, so you might want to cd to the the dir above the one you want to compress and run tar zcvf file.tar.gz <dir to be compressed>/*10:54
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arunkaleyeah, that's what i did10:54
doktoreashello everybody11:00
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doktoreasis there a way for opening links in firefox new tab?11:00
doktoreaslinks from kmail, konversation, ecc..11:01
doktoreasI set firefox in configuration settings, but it always try to open a new session11:01
emilsedgh_doktoreas: you set firefox in System Settings->Default Applications?11:02
arunkalehow do you wget a file into your current directory?11:02
arunkalewget <url> right?11:03
emilsedgh_right arunkale11:03
doktoreasemilsedgh_: yes. I noticed that it opens the link in a new tab, but alos try to open a new firefox11:03
arunkalei was trying to move a huge chunk of files using my slow connection, it was taking FOREVER11:03
athenadoktoreas, go under edit preferences then select tabs and set it to open in new tab11:03
emilsedgh_doktoreas: give it a -new-tab option11:04
emilsedgh_from 'man firefox': -new-tab URL: Open URL in a new tab in an already running Firefox process.11:05
arunkaleok, lets say i have a folder structure like this: folder1 > folder2    -- what if i want to move all the files from folder 2 into folder 1, how do i do that?11:06
emilsedgh_mv dir1/* dir1/dir211:06
doktoreasemilsedgh_: worked like a charm..thank you :)11:07
emilsedgh_im not sure if it works...11:07
arunkaleemilsedgh: this is assuming i'm in which directory to begin with?11:07
emilsedgh_sorry?11:07
arunkale1 sec11:07
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arunkaleexcellent11:09
Hamralol, thnx emilsedgh_, i was having the same problem with firefox :P11:19
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arunkalehow do you transfer files from your local computer to your server via ssh11:36
emilsedgharunkale: scp11:36
arunkaleemilsedgh: is there any place i could read a quick tutorial about that?11:37
emilsedgharunkale: scp user@host:/home/foo/bar/file.extenstion user2:host2:/home/foo/bar11:37
Jucatoyou can also use fish:/ in Konqueror11:37
makdaknifearunkale: easiest method is to use konqueror... sftp://11:37
ircop_hola11:38
arunkaleyeah i know i can use konqueror.. i was just wondering how to do it using the command line11:38
* Jucato doesn't think sftp:/ or ftp:/ just works directly11:38
emilsedghJucato: ftp does11:38
Jucatoemilsedgh: even if the target computer doesn't have ftpd?11:38
makdaknifehmmm I thought sftp had no problem... as long as the server supports11:38
Jucatowell yeah, as long as the server supports it, which I think means you need to have an ftpd... not really sure though :P11:39
emilsedghJucato: certainly no, thats not possible, no ftp client could do that11:39
makdaknifeJucato: no... sftp is set up in your sshd11:39
emilsedghconnect to a ftp server which is not a ftp server :D11:39
makdaknifeJucato: you do not need an ftpd running to support it... I think by default in Kubuntu/Ubuntu sshd is set up to support sftp11:40
* Jucato shrugs :)11:41
makdaknifehttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2006-April/005121.html11:42
emilsedghdeduce: Konqueror rocks11:43
Jucatomakdaknife: ok11:44
harmentalhey guys..has anyone been experiencing sudden freezes with Hardy?11:46
Jucatoharmental: #ubuntu+1 please11:49
mikemmi got a IBM P4 1.4Ghz mobile (centrino) laptop (x31)11:50
mikemmwhat version of Kubu is recommendable for this 'older' laptop?11:50
Jucatohow much RAM?11:52
Jucatobtw, what do you mean by "what version"?11:52
RogueJediXmikemm: I have a 1.2 GHz CPU and have no problems running the latest Kubuntu11:55
mikemmRogueJediX: 8.04 beta?11:55
Jucatoonly if you're willing to put up with a bit of instability/probable changes11:56
RogueJediXmikemm: Latest stable. 7.1011:56
Jucatoyou can install 7.10 and upgrade in 2 weeks to 8.0411:56
Jucatoaround 2 weeks...11:56
mikemmi used kubu for like 2,5year on it without problems, from before dapper.. to dapper.. to edgy11:56
mikemmbut then i was like.. hmmm this opensuse looks very promissing, lets give it a shot11:56
mikemmit went ok.. in the beginning.. but it became slower and slower - bit like windowz11:56
mikemmso i dont want that anymore, 7.10 is edgy right?11:57
lumm_gutsy11:57
mikemmOK11:58
Jucatoedgy is 6.1011:58
RogueJediXIs it possible to install KMPlayer without it becoming the default media player (I already have Kaffeine and Amarok for that)?12:04
emilsedghRogueJediX: sure12:06
Jucatoyou'll have to modify the File Associations12:06
emilsedghRogueJediX: go to Konqueror->Settings->File Associations.you could set which file types use which applications12:06
RogueJediXemilsedgh, Jucato: Cool, thanks12:07
sinnijiHi12:10
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PendetaI'm getting SQUASHFS errors when trying to install Kubuntu. Is this a problem with my CD Drive or my HD?12:17
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SinNiji"ashFS is used by the LiveCD versions of Finnix, Ubuntu, DD-WRT and probably many more Linux distributions." guess is your cd12:19
cuzntxi need to defrag?12:36
PendetaSinNiji, thanks. I'll try a different cd.12:36
cuzntx!defrag12:36
ubotuThe default Ubuntu filesystem (ext3) is engineered to avoid fragmentation issues in most cases, see http://linkpot.net/behead/ for a simple example on how it achieves this. A package "defrag" is available in !Universe, however its use is not safe, and is generally not needed.12:36
cuzntxw0w12:37
Dr_willisive never needed to defrag a linux box yet.12:39
Dr_willishad to fsck a few times on some. :)12:39
cuzntxfsck?12:40
Dr_willis'filw system check'12:40
Dr_willisman fsck :)12:40
Hamrafsck is like chkdsk or scandisk on windows12:40
Dr_willisonly it works. :)12:40
cuzntxis that a command funtion12:41
cuzntxof a porgram12:41
Dr_willisit is a command.12:41
Dr_willisfsck           fsck.ext2      fsck.minix     fsck.nfs       fsck.vfat  fsck.cramfs    fsck.ext3      fsck.msdos     fsck.reiserfs12:41
cuzntxfsck.ext3 [-panyrcdfvstDFSV] [-b superblock] [-B blocksize]                [-I inode_buffer_blocks] [-P process_inode_size]                [-l|-L bad_blocks_file] [-C fd] [-j external_journal]                [-E extended-options] device12:43
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Dr_willisthere ya go. :)12:47
* Hamra is going somewhere12:50
cuzntit says i can not fsck on amounted file system13:08
PiciBecause you can;t.13:08
Dr_willisYep.. correct.. You cant..13:09
cuznti gathered that13:09
Dr_willisi tend to boot live cd and fsck from them.13:09
Picisudo touch /forcefsck   will force it to fsck on the next reboot.13:09
cuznti will try that pici thank you13:09
Dr_willisanother good fix.. IF you need the disk fscked13:09
Dr_willisof course normally they get checked to see if they need checked anyway. :)13:10
cuznti dont know if i do or not13:10
Dr_willisodds are you dont then. :)13:10
cuzntright on13:10
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gundam_rx78nt1good morning.13:53
gundam_rx78nt1My motherboard battery is dying (RIP). I would like to have ntp automatically update the time about every hour.  How can I do this?13:54
Pici!time | gundam_rx78nt1 read this13:55
ubotugundam_rx78nt1 read this: Information about using and setting your computer's clock on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime - See https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/server/C/NTP.html for information on usage of the Network Time Protocol (NTP)13:55
Dragonathdoes anyone else have problems with kopete and MSN?14:03
Dragonathargh nvm it connected now14:04
gundam_rx78nt1Pici, thanks for the assist.14:04
JuJuBeeIs there a way to make it so if someone drops a file into a folder (drop box), the ownership of the file changes to who owns the folder?14:06
blindfishJuJuBee: i don't think this is possible "out of the box", but would be easy with a little perl-script / Cron-job14:10
JuJuBeeI was thinking of a cron that runs every 30 min or 60 min to change perms, but was hoping to avoid it if possible.14:10
llutzJuJuBee: why don't you use group-permissions?14:11
JuJuBeellutz : I use the group do define who can drop in and set everybody to --- while I am owner.14:19
llutzJuJuBee: and why do you want to change ownership?14:20
JuJuBeeWhen a student drops a file in, he/she is the owner and the group and world are ---14:20
JuJuBeeWhen I mount the drop box remotely, I want to be able to copy the files to my HD so I can grade them.14:24
shadowboxcan someone help me with my sound? its driving me nuts14:27
llutzJuJuBee: set sgid to directory and files will have group-ownership of directory14:27
llutzJuJuBee: then you can (if your are member of that group) work with them14:27
shadowboxI loadest the newest drivers and did everything the ubuntu help pages said and I get notrhing14:27
shadowboxsorry, I got a new bluetooth keyboard and I'm still getting used to the layout14:28
shadowboxhello?14:34
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dc2447Upgraded to 8.04 but kdm doesn't give me an option to ,.ogin to kde4?14:48
^u^kde4 isn't in 8.0414:48
dc2447The beta of Kubuntu 8.04 is available for testers.  The supported version comes with the rock solid KDE 3 while a remix features the cutting edge KDE 414:49
dc2447so wtf14:49
^u^did you get the remix version?14:50
JuJuBeellutz : go the sgid working, but when a student drops in a file, perms are rwx------14:50
BluesKajhowdy all14:51
makdaknifehi14:55
JuJuBeeDoes sgid and suid set the gid and uid of the file to that of the user dropping it in?14:55
JuJuBeeor to that of the Drop_Box?14:56
dc2447^u^: what remix version - I did an upgrade over the internet14:56
^u^dc2447: from what you typed there is a remix version - unsupported 'cause kde4 is still beta14:57
dc2447^u^: meh - that bisn't clear - so kde4 is in the repos though - right?14:59
^u^!kde414:59
ubotuKDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde414:59
^u^dc2447:14:59
dc2447well it's in the repos15:00
llutzJuJuBee: when a user drops a file into a directory with sgid, the file should get group-ownership of the directory15:06
JuJuBeeOK, that did seem to happen, however the group perms are ---15:07
JuJuBeeSo, it does me not good unless the group gets at least read.15:07
llutzJuJuBee: set umask or file-creation mask15:07
JuJuBeehow do I do that?15:08
JuJuBeecan I do it just for that directory?15:08
JuJuBeellutz : thanks for the tip, I found it and it works.15:17
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Troofyhow open large compressed file? i made a backup by g4l ghost 4 linux. it uses partimage. i think it was bzip2 2.4gb. Ark gives error while opening those files. any ways to copy a file from the archive?15:28
adz21cTroofy: checkout 'man bunzip2'15:30
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Troofyadz21c no use15:31
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yasssalut15:33
Troofyhow open large compressed file? i made a backup by g4l ghost 4 linux. it uses partimage. i think it was bzip2 2.4gb. Ark gives error while opening those files. any ways to copy a file from the archive?15:39
neorej_how do i extract an audio file from a movie file? it has to be good quality!15:45
adz21cneorej_: u want the audio stream of a movie file?15:45
neorej_y15:45
neorej_i have a movie file... (a capture of a rehearsal) and i want the sound from it in an mp3 file :)15:46
adz21cwell, i dunno the full stuff but this is something i used to pull the ac3 audio from a dvd vob, u will just need to tailor it to your fileformats and rencode the output15:47
adz21ctcextract -i $main_vob -x ac3 -a $audio_channel | tcextract -x ac3 -t raw > $audio_file15:47
neorej_ic :)15:48
neorej_thanks15:48
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mogsorHow do I enable the ability to login interactively as root?15:50
stdinwhy would you want that?15:51
mogsortesting on a dev server temporarily15:51
stdinyou have to edit /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc15:53
stdinspecifically the AllowRootLogin option, and you have to make sure root has a password set15:53
mogsorAh ok cool. Thanks15:54
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stdinbut it's not recommended to login graphically as root, so be extra careful15:54
LjLCzessi: ping15:57
CzessiLjL: pong15:59
LjLCzessi, your client was misbehaving and excess flooding a lot, what client are you on?15:59
nykogenii: hey how are you today ^^16:00
CzessiLjL: konversation but i don't know what's the matter.16:01
LjLCzessi: i think i do16:01
LjLCzessi: you're in many channels. Konversation, by default, gathers /who(is) information about all the people in your channels. it tries to be smart and not do it for large channels, but it goes nuts when you're in several small channels16:02
geniinyko: Wet from rain and still fighting flu but otherwise all right :)16:02
LjLCzessi: i suggest Settings / Configure Konversation / Chat Window / Enable Automatic User Information Look Up <-- disable this completely, or at least make the update interval much much longer16:02
CzessiLjL: thanks, done16:03
nykogenii: that bad umm yet me i fighting to find why my logout bug my linux and after that all work well i buy a usb/ps/216:04
nykogenii: and my mouse work well16:04
geniinyko: So no more mouse problems today? ;)16:05
nykogenii: no :P16:06
LjLCzessi: you'll probably find your client also has much less lag after disabling that (look at the bottom right corner - when you have that enabled, it'll probably indicate several dozens seconds)16:09
nykogenii: hey i wondering if you know a way to have lcd logitech g15 keyboard work in linux somewhere16:11
geniinyko: Not offhand.16:12
nykogenii: i see16:12
CzessiLjL: yes, so is it16:12
geniinyko: I could search google etc but this is likely what you would be needing to do anyways16:13
LjLCzessi: make sure when you logout from kde you close konversation first, as it sometimes forgets to save its settings if you just close the session16:13
CzessiLjL: i do this every time because i don't will that koversation starts, when i login into kde16:15
geniinyko: If you feel brave you can try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LogitechG15       but since on kubuntu and not ubuntu replace where they put "gksudo gedit" with "kdesu kate"16:16
LjLCzessi: well you can make it stop doing that. System Settings / Advanced / Session Settings / On Login / (select) Restore manually saved session.   this will affect every other application, too, although if you only want *konversation* to not be restored, you can put it in the "excluded from session" list16:16
CzessiLjL: thanks for this information. i put konersation in the excluded list16:21
makeSHIFT_pliskii need quick help to fix my wireless16:23
makeSHIFT_pliskiit used to work, and now it doesn't. but lshw -C network shows the adapters correctly16:23
makeSHIFT_pliskiand i can't figure out why i can't connect to my router. (via knetwork its all well configured)16:24
trappistcan you be more specific than doesn't work?16:24
trappistdoes it have an ip address?16:24
makeSHIFT_pliskino, i can't detect the signal at all16:25
trappisthave you tried kwifimanager?16:25
makeSHIFT_pliskibut i don't know if its something badly configured or if its knetworkmanager16:25
makeSHIFT_pliskiiwconfig shows my wireless card correctly16:26
trappistcan you see your AP?16:26
makeSHIFT_pliskiAP ?16:26
trappistaccess point16:27
makeSHIFT_pliskino i can't16:27
makeSHIFT_pliskiaccess point: invalid16:27
makeSHIFT_pliskii have ndiswrapper installed and working. the card is installed. its something else kinda. i'll try kwifimanager.16:28
trappistdo you know the mac address of your ap?16:28
trappistor, try iwlist <interface> scan16:29
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makeSHIFT_pliskii am wired conencted, downloaded kwifi, but can't connect to any websites via firefox16:33
LjLCzessi, you may want to check if my theory on what's happening is true, and confirm http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16037016:35
trappistmakeSHIFT_pliski: can you ping google?16:35
trappistmakeSHIFT_pliski: do you use a proxy?16:35
makeSHIFT_pliskino i dont use a proxy16:36
venikMy Kubuntu 7.10 ignores my external USB hard drive.  WHat can I do?16:38
makeSHIFT_pliskii can ping it16:38
trappistwhat error does firefox give you16:38
makeSHIFT_pliskinothing, it just doesn't load like "looking up google.com..."16:39
trappistmakeSHIFT_pliski: do you happen to be running firefox in a chroot?16:39
amerigowhere I can find list of mibile supported in kubuntu?16:40
amerigomobile.... sorry16:40
makeSHIFT_pliskifirefox works now ! cool. fianlly. but i am wired16:40
BluesKaj!HandBrake16:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about handbrake - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:40
makeSHIFT_pliskiinstalling kwifimanager now.16:41
amerigo!PDA16:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pda - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:42
amerigo!pda16:42
peterG5I just changed the my display preferences by enabling a second monitor in the Monitor & Display menu. I set screen 1 to be left of screen 2. I restarted xserver and it will no longer load anything graphical. What should I look at to fix this? I am not that knowledgeable with xserver.16:42
venikany idea why my USB drive is ignored by Kubuntu 7.10?16:42
amerigols16:43
amerigo!list16:43
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots16:43
amerigolist16:43
amerigo#list16:43
amerigobo??16:43
amerigoI had to use my phone to connect in inteernet my computer with Kubuntu.... Nobody has a tip?16:44
venik!<USB hard drive>16:45
venik! USB16:46
ubotuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent16:46
Goldensunsalut16:52
Goldensunpetit probléme16:52
stdin!fr16:52
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.16:52
Goldensunsorry16:52
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peterG5I just changed the my display preferences by enabling a second monitor in the Monitor & Display menu. I set screen 1 to be left of screen 2. I restarted xserver and it will no longer load anything graphical. What should I look at to fix this? I am not that knowledgeable with xserver.16:54
stdinit should have saved a backup in /etc/X11/, you can try restoring that16:55
LjLCzessi, the bug for konversation had already been filed on lp at https://bugs.launchpad.net/konversation/+bug/67200 and is marked as "fix released"... i think the only way they could fix it without involving upstream would be to change the defaults (i.e. disable the lookup feature by default). yet you had it enabled, so is yours a fresh installation of gutsy, or did you move over your home and ~/.kde from another version?16:55
CzessiLjL: its an old .kde folder from another version. i'll take a look if i flood again and when not, i confirm this bug at bugs.kde.org16:59
LjLCzessi: ah then maybe they've really "fixed" it (i.e. changed the defaults) in ubuntu16:59
LjLwould help if who fixed it made a mention of it in the bug report :)17:00
DexterFhi17:03
Eli_I have kubuntu installed on my USB HDD, and Winxp installed on my internal hd of my laptop, the kubuntu installed and worked from the usb, but now it doesnt, it writes "error loading operating system", how can i fix that? (grub related?!)17:03
DexterFafter upgrade to 7.10 timidity doesn't work anymore and kaffeine won't use "alsa" by default. is this a known issue?17:03
WarrenDumhi17:04
WarrenDumi have the gutsy cd and ubuntu gutsy (gnome)17:05
WarrenDumhow can i use the kubuntu cd to install kubuntu-desktop?17:05
stdinWarrenDum: you can only do that from the alternate cd17:06
WarrenDumok, so it isn't possible? damn' :(17:06
stdinno with the normal desktop cd, no17:07
WarrenDumcan you explain why?17:07
CzessiLjL: on my fresh hardy installation the /who option is enabled17:07
stdinWarrenDum: because the desktop version doesn't have all the .debs on it in a way apt can read17:08
WarrenDumok17:08
peterG5thankyou stdin...worked a charm17:08
WarrenDummaybe off-topic, but how do the installer install it then?17:08
LjLCzessi: uh, try joining all the channels you're in while keeping it enabled17:08
LjLCzessi: if it still lags you / floods you off, we reopen the bug17:08
stdinWarrenDum: it uses a funky compressed filesystem and copies it over to the real system17:09
WarrenDumit copies the live image?17:09
CzessiLjL: i'll test it tomorrow17:10
stdinnot exactly, but the point is that apt can't read it from the CD17:10
ekinhi anybody can help? amarok dont play mp317:10
LjL!mp317:10
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats17:10
WarrenDumekin : install kubuntu-restricted-extras if you have a good bandwith17:10
ekini already installed it WarrenDum17:11
WarrenDumso it should work17:11
LjLhave you restarted amarok after installing it?17:11
ekinnope when i launch it say mp3 not supported and tires to dl files than it says ok restart it17:11
ekinyep17:11
WarrenDumcompletely?17:12
WarrenDumi mean exit the taskbar icon too17:12
ekinyep completely rebooted the system17:12
WarrenDumok17:12
ekini can play with juk17:12
WarrenDumis libxine1-plugins installed?17:12
ekinlet me check17:12
WarrenDumotherwise, is amarok up-to-date?17:12
ekinit is 1.4.7 comes with kubuntu 7.1017:13
WarrenDumhm17:13
WarrenDumis the package installed btw?17:13
ekincant find it in adept manager17:13
WarrenDumow17:14
ekinthere is only 3 files begin with libxine117:14
WarrenDumdo you have all repositories installed? (did you have access to internet druing install?)17:14
venikhow do I make ALSA play ogg files?17:14
ekinyep i have access to the internet17:14
venikit makes a weird sound instead of the sound that it is supposed to play17:15
ekinalso amarok can connect to servers17:15
venikwav files are fine17:15
WarrenDumbut if libxine1-plugins isn't installed it can't work17:15
WarrenDumwhich repositories do you have enabled?17:15
ekini reinstall the amarok but nothing changed it asks everytime i launch17:15
ekinhmmm wait a serc17:15
ekinsec17:15
WarrenDumnp17:16
ekinhttp://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu17:16
WarrenDumno17:16
WarrenDumther's multiverse, restricted17:16
WarrenDumwhich are enabled?17:17
anabellehow can i make pidgin open links in firefox?17:17
WarrenDummain, universe, multiverse, restricted17:17
ekinyes restricted one is checked17:17
WarrenDumactivate them (the 4)17:17
ekini mean multiverse17:17
WarrenDumactivate them all17:17
ekinok17:17
WarrenDumreload your list17:17
WarrenDumand reinstall kubuntu-restricted-extras17:18
ekinok Warrendum i will do it thanx for your help17:18
WarrenDumand then if it still doesn't work, look for libxine1-plugins and install it if it is available17:18
WarrenDumekin: no problem :)17:18
ekinok thanks a lot17:18
ekin:917:18
WarrenDumgive some feedback too ;)17:18
ekini will ;)17:18
WarrenDumgood luck :P17:19
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ekinWarrenDumX :) it worked thanks a lot again :)17:21
ekinhuh :)17:21
LjLCzessi: marked as fixed (murphy's law :), http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160370 - i had indeed read the SVN commits of yesterday, but it wasn't immediately clear how the sendqueue would affect this17:22
WarrenDumXekin: no problem, glad tou have helped, good luck for the future ^^17:22
ekin:)17:22
WarrenDumXnow i leave, will test hardy, bye everybody!17:22
WarrenDumXbye ekin!17:22
ekinbye17:22
ekinbye all17:22
nykogenii: ok thanks17:26
reesehi! what is alsa-quirk?17:29
reeseanyway, i have to edit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base and insert a line such as:17:31
reeseoptions snd-hda-intel model=MODEL17:31
reesebut I don't know what exactly to write in that string.. it is still snd-hda-intel?17:32
amerigo! PDA17:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pda - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:33
amerigo! pda17:34
AzzcoAnyone know if wengophone (2) has support for OSS?17:35
geniiamerigo: For the bot PDA and pda are the same thing, it puts everything to lowercase anyhow17:35
AzzcoAnd the bot has been a bit ill lately, right?17:35
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geniiAzzco: As far as I know the !info feature is busted17:36
Troofyiam tring to install inspircd that requires g++ and having this error. (i dont have the ubuntu install cd atm) http://pastebin.com/m37936ed6 any help?17:38
pteagueopen up /etc/apt/sources.list as root & temporarily comment out the line for the cd, run `apt-get update` or `aptitude update` & try it again17:40
geniiTroofy: Since you're in both #kubuntu and #ubuntu you should ask in the channel which fits the window manager you are in at the moment.17:42
venikHow do I get fancy screen savers?  In my Configure Desktop there is only Blank and Random17:42
genii(and not both channels at once)17:42
Troofygenii ok . i got the answer17:42
venik!<screen savers>17:43
venik!<screen>17:44
TroofyE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)17:45
Troofyu17:45
ibouhi. How to open a *.cue file? Is it possible to mount it as an *.iso ?17:45
Troofygenii ^17:45
venik!screen saver17:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about screen saver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:45
venik!screen17:45
ubotuscreen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen17:45
venik!UUID17:46
ubotuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)17:46
nykogenii:  you there ?17:46
ibouhi. How to open a *.cue file? Is it possible to mount it as an *.iso ?17:47
geniinyko: Yes, I am around when work allows17:47
nykogenii: ok how to install the 2 g15 tips :p17:48
nykogenii: he not have any ./configure17:48
geniiTroofy: when you get that message it's usually because you have more than 1 program running which is using the update/upgrade subsystem. Make sure only the one you are trying to use is open.17:49
nykogenii: i think make only should work ?17:49
Troofygenii i know but how do i solve it17:49
Piero_Scaruffilol17:49
geniinyko: Normally source code comes with a file README or something similar, recommend to look at this if it exists.17:50
geniiTroofy: To solve it close anything open which has Adept/Synaptic/apt running :)17:50
nykogenii: ok17:50
Troofygenii i dont have any thing opend like that17:50
Troofy i see 'apache2' as a proces in ksysgaurd. anything wrong?17:50
nykogenii: libg15daemon_client not found. please install it ummm ?17:51
geniinyko: Since I don't have a g15 and have not attempted installing one, I will be of little assistance17:51
geniiTroofy: Likely your update manager is running, if in kubuntu check bottom right corner for it17:51
nykogenii: ok lol i will try alone then :)17:52
Troofygenii ic. thx.  in linux can i make my pc a server for ircd + webserver + email server + some others. + desktop use too and keep it stable and up for months?17:52
geniiTroofy: If you plan to have some dedicated server, don't also use it for a regular desktop machine with kde or gnome on it. Instead install the ubuntu-server cd on another box and then use something like ssh into it to control it17:54
Troofygenii sounds good. but what advantage is there of doing it and what disadvantage put  a faster dualcore to do all jobs?17:58
Troofyi have a p4 1.8g 1g ram atm. if i have to buy a p3 1g as a server. why not upgrade my p4 to dualcore and use one pc for all???17:58
nykogenii:17:59
nykogenii:  i got the problem i hae download libg15daemond and ./configure make sudo make install and my problem its now repair ^^17:59
ZurnaNet41Hi guys , could you please check this webpage out, and give me your feedback www.eismanicaclara.com18:00
geniinyko: You did: ./configure    then: make   then: sudo make install                        and then it said something about needing repairs??18:01
nykogenii: no when i have run g15 compiler i got error error said libg15daemond not install plz install it so i have download install and now is good all work properly18:02
geniinyko: Ah, OK. So the keyboard works like it is supposed to?18:04
nykogenii: yes :P18:04
geniiGood :)18:04
nykogenii: i not finish to configure it but now all good i see the clock in my lcd sceen lol18:04
nykogenii: systax error in the sudoer file ?18:07
nykogenii: NVM I REPAIR MY PROBLEM18:08
nykooups sorry cap18:09
nykogenii:  System -> Preferences -> Sessions where is that in kde ?18:10
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geniinyko: System Settings ...Advanced Tab ... Session Manager18:13
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fat-headhello, i am trying to run my games in a seperate x server. not just linux native games but wine games mostly, i am using this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51486. the problem is when i type xauth then list in terminal i get 1 line of output and then instead of the blinker going back to xauth> it stays |  and i cant type exit either ?? anyone knwo what the problem is ?18:17
MinnozzHi, I have a problem. My network connection (internet and LAN) becomes extremely laggy at random times, and I'm sure it's a problem with my PC. Anyone any idea why?18:17
dekhow do I make the Vim editor remember settings?, such as when I input ":syntax on" i want it to remember it for the next time I start it.18:17
MinnozzThe only solution I currently know is a reboot18:17
^u^dek: there is a vimrc in /etc/vim that might help18:21
dek^u^: so I dont have to create my own file in /home ?¡18:22
coreymon77Minnozz: wired lan or wireless?18:22
Minnozzcoreymon77: wired18:23
^u^dek: you can if you want - I am not sure if that will override vimrc from /etc/vim - never tried18:23
^u^worth a shot :)18:23
coreymon77Minnozz: and it slows down bif time randomly18:23
coreymon77big*18:23
Minnozzcoreymon77: correct, and it happens in a single moment18:25
Minnozzcoreymon77: for instance, the ping to my switch:  1  10.0.0.200 (10.0.0.200)  1329.580 ms  1329.592 ms  1329.587 ms18:25
AndreSTCis there a way to run ie 7 in linux? From a pen drive maybe?18:26
nykogenii: i got a problem whit logout turn off when i do someing whit that he just close all turn black and my arrow freeze :s18:26
coreymon77sorry about that Minnozz18:26
coreymon77AndreSTC: and why would you want that exactly?18:27
Minnozzcoreymon77: did you read my reply or shall I repeat it? :)18:27
AndreSTC[coreymon77]: my home broker only run in ie 7... i would like to be able to acces it on my notebook(kubuntu)18:27
coreymon77Minnozz: if you dont mind repeating18:28
Minnozz[quote] coreymon77: correct, and it happens in a single moment18:28
AzzcoDoes anyone know a voip program that supports OSS?18:28
Minnozzcoreymon77: for instance, the ping to my switch:  1  10.0.0.200 (10.0.0.200)  1329.580 ms  1329.592 ms  1329.587 ms[/quote]18:28
coreymon77AndreSTC: and you sure the user agent switcher addon for firefox wouldnt do the trick?18:28
coreymon77Minnozz: okay18:29
coreymon77Minnozz: you sure its your computer and not the connection itself?18:29
geniinyko: Does it still shut off by itself after a minute or 2 ?18:29
nykogenii: no stay black18:29
Minnozzcoreymon77: I have an SSH connection open to my homeserver, and that box has no problems at all18:29
nykogenii: i not go to 2 min tough lollll18:29
geniinyko: Perhaps to try the kernel option of:      acpi=force18:30
Minnozzcoreymon77: (but the connection from my pc to the server does)18:30
AndreSTC[coreymon77]: didnt try that yet... ill give it a try. i thought i would need to have ie 7 in order to the plugin to work18:30
Troofygenii can a hardare failure occure if any one attacks pc by internet. e.g ddos?18:30
nykogenii: what it does?18:30
geniinyko: Forces the computer to use power features18:31
coreymon77AndreSTC: what plugin18:31
AndreSTC[coreymon77]: agent switcher18:31
nykogenii:  ok18:31
coreymon77Minnozz: im really not sure18:31
coreymon77AndreSTC: what plugin do you need to work?18:31
geniiTroofy: Since ddos attacks or similar pute heavier strain on things like disk accesss, it's conceivable.18:32
Troofyk18:32
coreymon77*sigh* still no kde4 konversation18:34
geniiMinnozz: If you're using some torrent client perhaps check to see if you're still seeding a bunch of torrents. This causes a slowdown which seems to just creep slowly up and up. If you are having slow ping to your router, it may be a route issue.18:35
geniiOther things which cause creeping slowdown is memory leaks (notoriously in firefox).18:36
nykogenii: and last one do you know how to repair nsplugingviewer error ?18:37
Minnozzgenii: I am not using a torrent client, and traceroute shows a single hop18:37
Minnozz(to my server)18:37
Minnozzgenii: I don't have a FF session open at the moment18:38
geniinyko: No, you asked yesterday about the nspluginviewer, I could offer no help with it then either  :)18:41
BobSapphey there18:44
geniiMinnozz: When the slowdown happens, what does top show as the most resource-hogging thing which is running?18:44
BobSappI just got SIGSEGV in kcrash when i try to login to my only account18:44
BobSappdoes kdecore.so.4 mean kde4 has been installed?18:45
nykogenii:18:45
nykook thanks :P18:45
Minnozzgenii: Amarok has the highest processor load, but i'll paste the full output18:46
BobSappthe crash occurs in KSaveFile::KSaveFile() if that helps18:46
Minnozzgenii: http://pastebin.com/m7d9c672218:47
Minnozzgenii: (My pc is currently in 'slow' state)18:48
BobSappok im just gonna reinstall anyway18:49
BobSappno point asking for help on 8.0418:49
mhollisjrother than Autostart, is there any place that KDE launches applications from?18:49
Minnozzgenii: Any other things I can check, maybe?18:49
JoshOvkiBobSapp: for all 8.04 questions try   #ubuntu+118:50
BobSappkthanks18:50
geniiMinnozz: You said you don't have ff running but firefox-bin is the second-most resource hog.18:50
genii(on that paste)18:50
Minnozzgenii: Yeah, I just fired it up to be able to paste :P18:51
geniiAh, OK18:51
geniiMinnozz: Is Amarok streaming in what it's playing from somewhere? That may explain some congestion as well18:52
Minnozzgenii: No, just playing from the harddisk, it only submits tracks to Last.fm every x minutes18:52
pteagueanybody have any opinions on strigidaemon vs trackerd vs beagle?18:53
Minnozzgenii: But when this happened before, I tried shutting down Amarok and it didn't make any difference18:53
geniiMinnozz: OK18:53
coreymon77pteague: never heard of any of them18:53
coreymon77pteague: except that a beagle is a dog18:53
coreymon77:P18:53
BobSapp1/topic18:55
pteaguecoreymon77> well, you should know what's running on your computer...  kubuntu uses strigidaemon by default & i think ubuntu uses trackerd by default... they're basically desktop searching engines that parse through all your files18:55
JoshOvkiMinnozz: Shut down amorak then press   Ctrl + Esc and make sure it is acctualy terminated18:56
coreymon77oh ya, those18:56
MinnozzJoshOvki: Okay, bye music :(18:56
pteagueanybody know how to keep strigi killed? i killed the process yesterday, but had to restart x & it's started up again18:56
mot 13:56:50 up 13 days, 22:01,  0 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.26, 0.2518:56
JoshOvkiMinnozz: it will only be for a little while, or you can run  xmms (pretty good)18:57
motLinux user-b1e7de.user.msu.edu 2.6.18-6-686 #1 SMP Sun Feb 10 22:11:31 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux18:57
JoshOvkisorry if my typing goes a bit messed up, ive only just woke up18:57
MinnozzJoshOvki: Done (it was really shut down)18:58
JoshOvkiMinnozz: and it was acctualy exiting?18:58
MinnozzJoshOvki: Yes, it disappeared from the list18:59
JoshOvkihmmm ok18:59
MinnozzHey, I just noticed something19:00
JoshOvki?19:00
MinnozzMy server screen is right next to me, and I attached my screen session there19:00
Minnozzwhat I type shows up directly there (lagless), but with lag on my own (pc) screen19:01
SpeShi, anyone knows how to configure a audio card Maudio Delta66 in Kubuntu=?19:01
SpeS??19:01
PiciCzessi: excess flooding again19:01
JoshOvkiMinnozz: that tooks promizing, can you quit that19:01
JoshOvkiif you pc is constantly upload it will cause problems19:02
bentob0xhow secure is Konqueror in terms of mixing filesystems?19:03
bentob0xlike ftp/ntfs/http/etc19:03
MinnozzJoshOvki: I'm now physically behind my server, the screen session is detached on my pc19:03
JoshOvkiMinnozz: 1 screen, 2 pcs?19:04
MinnozzJoshOvki: Yes, irssi runs in a screen on my server and I ssh to it and attach from my PC19:04
coreymon77that would do it19:05
coreymon77ntfs=bad19:05
JoshOvkiMinnozz: i know the feeling, how is everything generaly running now?19:05
coreymon77its annoying on everything other than doze19:05
rabindrahey can anyone help me with installing linux drivers19:05
coreymon77rabindra: for...?19:05
MinnozzJoshOvki: Ping / internet with FF is still equally slow :(19:06
JoshOvkicoreymon77: i swapped all my windblows stuff to fat3219:06
SpeShi, where is alsaconf in Kubuntu?19:06
SpeSI can't find it!!19:06
JoshOvkihmmm19:06
coreymon77so you are running irssi through ssh on another computer? wouldnt that maybe cause the slowdown?19:06
coreymon77rabindra: what drivers?19:06
geniiMinnozz: When you ping your default gateway is it slow also? Or just for machines on the internet (past the gateway)19:07
* JoshOvki hands Minnozz back to genii while i go get food19:07
nicolasd71?19:07
DexterFcan someoen confirm: kaffeine in gutsy deosn't properly adjust to aspect ratio in DVB?19:07
Minnozzcoreymon77: I have used this for ~2 years, and the slowdowns occur only once every 2 weeks or so...19:07
rabindrai have just installed gutsy gibbon and need to install drivers for nvidia chipset19:07
coreymon77Minnozz: it was just a suggestion19:08
Minnozzgenii: Everything I ping is slow, from my switch (first step) to $randomServer (google.com or so)19:08
coreymon77!nvidia | rabindra19:08
uboturabindra: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto19:08
rabindrai have the cd, my  motherboard is ASUS M2NPV-VM and NVIDIA GeForce19:08
Minnozzcoreymon77: Yeah, thanks :) I'm only explaining why I think that can't be the problem19:08
Minnozziftop shows almost no traffic, too...19:09
Minnozzmaybe 2KB/s average19:09
rabindrai already have some proprietry driver running, i enabled it as soon as i installed kubuntu and that took care of the resolution but the refresh rate is still bad19:11
MinnozzI don't know how network connections work low-level; But maybe there is some kind of buffer that's overloaded?19:11
coreymon77rabindra: the driver from the cd that came with your computer will be of no use to you, those are for windows only19:12
c0rle0n3please I really need help of you guys, I had to install php5.2.5 instead of the package of kubuntu19:12
c0rle0n3now I need to config php with gd and jpeg support19:12
coreymon77Minnozz: sorry, im much better with wireless19:12
c0rle0n3but this is my problem19:12
c0rle0n3for something I don't know, gd is not working19:13
c0rle0n3maybe I'm using wrong patch19:13
c0rle0n3./configure --enable-force-cgi-redirect --with-pgsql --with-mysql --with-pdo-mysql --with-pdo-pgsql --without-pdo-sqlite --with-zlib --with-sqlite --with-zlib --with-gd --with-ttf --with-gettext --with-freetype-dir=/usr/include/freetype2 --with-png-dir=/usr/include/libpng12 --with-jpeg-dir=/usr/include --enable-mbstring19:13
rabindrai know but what to do? the cd can run in windows only but it has a folder containing linux drivers also19:13
Minnozzcoreymon77: Okay, thanks anyway :)19:14
kkathmanc0rle0n3: why not just install xampp - installs in 2 minutes and is a full php/mysql/phpmyadmin and the whole thing?19:14
c0rle0n3it's install php5.2.5?19:14
kkathmanphp 5 yes19:14
c0rle0n3I must 5.2.519:15
kkathmanwhy?19:15
kkathmanyou shouldnt be programming to a specific minor release anyway19:15
c0rle0n35.2.1 has a bug, I don't know if it is in apache or kubuntu, but it crash in a script I have19:15
ubuntu;]19:16
geniiMinnozz: Perhaps stop the interface (sudo iconfig <ethname> down)    then remove/reinsert the driver it uses (sudo modprobe -r <modulename>;sudo modprobe <modulename> ) then restart the interface and see if ping times change19:16
Minnozzgenii: Okay, any idea what the name of the module could be?19:16
Jcklanyone know how i can connect to my phone running windows mobile so i can transfer files?19:16
c0rle0n3the /usr/include is the correct patch?19:16
rabindracoreymon77: i checked the help page at  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto and what it says I have already done19:17
geniiMinnozz: If you pastebin result of lsmod I could pick it out for you19:17
venik!pidgin19:17
ubotuThe Instant Messenger Client Pidgin (formerly Gaim) (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !Kopete19:17
kkathmanJckl:   have you just tried connecting it to a usb or something - it should look like an attached drive19:17
Minnozzgenii: Okay, wait a sec :)19:17
Jcklyea i connected it to my usb cable19:18
c0rle0n3I think RH is the solution :(19:18
rabindrathe refresh rate is still 50 hz worse than what was before enabling the restricted drivers; it was 60 before19:18
Minnozzgenii: http://pastebin.com/m7813e5ac19:18
kkathmanmy phone connected, Jckl ,  and I could access just like an external drive - via dolphin or konq19:18
JoshOvkiMinnozz: just out of curiosity what switch are you using?19:19
MinnozzJoshOvki: A US Robotics wireless access point (of which the wireless feature is inactive), and my router is a SpeedTouch/Alcatel thing19:20
Minnozz* router/modem19:20
JoshOvkiah... US Robotics. My ex girlfriend had one of them, and every so often everything would just slow right down untill i restarted it. i then did a firmware update and it got worse19:21
Jcklkkathman: using dmesg i see  PocketPC PDA converter now attached to ttyUSB0   but i cant see it as a drive and it does not show up under fdisk -l19:21
JoshOvki(thats not the reason she is my ex girlfriend tho)19:21
MinnozzJoshOvki: But the thing is, when I restart my PC, everyting is just fine again (ie no switch reboot needed)19:21
JoshOvkihmmm :S maby there is a build up of failed packages that clear19:22
JoshOvkiare both your server and the pc slow?19:22
MinnozzNo, only the PC19:22
kkathmanJckl:  hmmm  I have a Motorola Q9h running windows mobile 6 and seems to be ok19:22
JoshOvkiok scrap my idea then19:22
geniiMinnozz: Apologies for lag, work required me. Reading the paste now19:23
mothas anybody gotten any of the phones running windows mobile to run linux yet? :)19:23
rabindrai just installed rpm, where do i use it from19:23
Minnozzgenii: No problem, I'm glad you're helping me :)19:23
Jcklhmm i have mobile 5.. i have the upgrade for 6 but have not done it yet.. maybe that is the problem.. i am gonna try to mount it manually19:23
JoshOvkiMinnozz: what OS is ur server running? and is the ping slow between you and the router or you and the rest of the world (sorry if its been asked already)19:24
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MinnozzJoshOvki: My server runs Debian, my PC runs Kubuntu. Everything from/to my PC is slow, but for instance a ping from my server to google.com is just fine19:25
geniiMinnozz: sky2 is the driver19:25
Minnozzgenii: Okay, I'm gonna try reloading it19:26
JoshOvkiwats the ping like from ur pc to ur switch/router?19:27
geniiJoshOvki: He has same lag issue if just from pc to router or if from pc to some arbitrary IP19:27
JoshOvkiah ok19:28
Minnozzgenii: Hmm, this is weird19:29
mhollisjrOkay this is really getting annoying, Nothing is in autostart, the session is not being restored, where is Compiz loading from?19:29
Minnozzgenii: Now there is no connection at all19:29
* JoshOvki points at genii and says He did it19:29
Minnozzgenii: eth1 is up, but ping $ip gives 'Destination Host Unreachable'19:29
JoshOvkiMinnozz: what does   ifconfig   throw back?19:30
geniiMinnozz: You did:    sudo ifconfig eth1 down; sudo modprobe -r sky2;sudo modprobe sky2; sudo ifconfig eth1 up                   ? or equivelent19:30
mhollisjrI'll settle for any guesses -sigh-19:30
Minnozzgenii: Yes, exactly that (but eth1 was already up after the last modprobe)19:31
MinnozzJoshOvki: eth1 and lo19:31
MinnozzJoshOvki: Can't paste it for you without a connection19:31
JoshOvkiMinnozz: anthing like           inet addr:192.168.1.101  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0    in there?  (replacing the numbers for your own)19:32
geniiMinnozz: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart19:32
MinnozzJoshOvki: Yes (10.0.0.152, 10.0.0.255 and 255.255.255.0 for me)19:32
JoshOvkihmmm, try what genii suggested19:33
rabindraplease guide me on installing synaptic package manager from adept manager19:33
Minnozzgenii: Done that, still not working19:33
JoshOvkiMinnozz: im guessing the IP range is correct btw19:33
geniiMinnozz: sudo dhclient -r eth1;sudo dhclient eth119:34
DarkriftXrabindra, sudo apt-get install synaptic19:34
DarkriftXthats the easiest way19:35
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aaro__Hello19:35
Piero_Scaruffihi19:36
Piero_Scaruffiaaro__19:36
Minnozzgenii: Done that, it says something about 'No DHCPDISCOVERS on eth1 ...' but I'm using a static ip (so that's not important, right?)19:36
geniiMinnozz: Ah static, OK.19:37
Minnozzgenii: My interface has no IP now, ifdown && ifup?19:37
aaro__What is SU ?19:38
geniiMinnozz: Yes, then try to ping 10.0.0.1 (I assume is the router)19:38
rabindradarkriftX:thanks19:38
geniiaaro__: Substitute User19:38
aaro__thank you19:38
geniiaaro__: np19:39
geniiaaro__: man su  for extended info on syntax19:39
JoshOvkiMinnozz: or ping 10.0.0.255 as its the default gateway19:39
Minnozzgenii, JoshOvki: 10.0.0.138 is the IP of my router (and 10.0.0.200 of my switch)19:40
geniiJoshOvki: I think that would be his broadcast IP :)19:40
JoshOvkiah yeh *hits head*19:40
JoshOvkiping10.0.0.138 then ;)19:41
geniiMinnozz: Work requires me19:42
Minnozzgenii: Had a little trouble bringing it up again (ifconfig / ifup conflict) but still doesn't work :(19:42
Minnozzgenii: Ah, okay. Thanks a lot for your help :)19:42
JoshOvkiMinnozz: still got an IP in ifconfig?19:43
MinnozzJoshOvki: Yes (I edited /etc/network/interfaces once), but I can't find my gateway IP there. Is it supposed to be there?19:43
srinarajany one from India19:44
srinaraj?19:44
JoshOvkiMinnozz: it might not be needed, was thinking windows19:45
MinnozzHmm, I could just reboot my PC and it is fixed. But I think that's a bad solution19:46
MinnozzIt's just not supposed to happen19:47
mhollisjrWhen I login to an x session, what launches plasma on hardy? I asked #ubuntu+1, they sent me to you :D19:48
JoshOvkiMinnozz: try add.ing    gateway *.*.*.*   where the * are the correct numbers19:48
mhollisjror wait let me rephrase the question19:48
mhollisjrwhat are all the startup locations and config files from the point of leaving the login screen to a fully up and running desktop?19:49
MinnozzJoshOvki: How is that done again; ifconfig eth1 gateway 10.0.0.138 ?19:49
rabindradarkriftX: this is the error i am getting19:49
JoshOvkiMinnozz: all to the same effect :)19:49
rabindraPackage synaptic is not available, but is referred to by another package.19:49
rabindraThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or19:49
rabindrais only available from another source19:49
rabindraE: Package synaptic has no installation candidate19:49
JoshOvkiMinnozz: yeh sorry, didnt read correctly19:51
mhollisjrAutorun, and /etc/X11/Xsession.d are the only ones I've found what else am I missing?19:52
MinnozzJoshOvki: are you sure it's possible to add a gateway with ifconfig ?19:52
Minnozzthere's nothing about it in the manpage19:52
JoshOvkii wasnt 100% sure so i googled:     http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/19:53
JoshOvkioh sorry miss read again19:53
JoshOvkiim not sure about that, you could always add it and ifconfig down && ifconfig up  should re-read it19:54
MinnozzJoshOvki: done that (and the gateway declaration was already in the config file)19:55
JoshOvkiah ok19:55
JoshOvkiMinnozz: still no connection im guessing then19:56
MinnozzJoshOvki: nope :(19:56
* JoshOvki is stummped19:56
rabindrasrinaraj: ya, currently19:57
geniiMinnozz: If you are using the x.x.x.138 as gateway to internet you should specify in the /etc/network/interfaces entry for eth1 that ip for gateway. Also seems odd your switch has any ip of it's own at all.19:57
Minnozzgenii: The gateway entry in /etc/network/interfaces was already there (made the file a long time ago)19:58
Minnozzgenii: And my switch is not really a switch, it is a wireless access point that I use as a switch19:58
Minnozz(it's a wireless access point with built-in switch)19:58
Minnozzgenii: I don't think the config is the problem, because it works just fine 99% of the time20:00
Minnozz* that config20:01
coreymon77!oh, wait  asec20:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about oh, wait  asec - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi20:01
coreymon77whoops20:01
coreymon77anyways20:02
coreymon77Minnozz: you do use wireless?20:02
Minnozzcoreymon77: Nope, all wired20:02
coreymon77oh, sorry then, i dont know much about wired problems20:02
coreymon77i got all my knowledge through my countless problems, and they were all with wireless20:03
* genii gives coreymon77 a large coffee for the effort20:03
coreymon77i always try20:03
MinnozzHmm, speaking about coffee... brb20:03
rabindrasomeone help me i just installed vlc where to run it from?20:04
geniiMinnozz: I had a motherboard with same chipset/driver (Marvell Yukon) and had endless probs with the nic since it's chipset is also invoved in the sata controller and audio20:04
coreymon77rabindra: if you installed a client, it should be somewhere in the kmenu20:04
JoshOvkigenii: where is mine?:P i havnt had a re-fill in over 40 mins :P20:05
rabindracoreymon77: it's not there it shows in add or remove programs in the multimedia category but not in the k-menu20:06
* genii slides JoshOvki down a large Ubuntu mug of coffee20:06
dvoidwhen i view properties for a .vob file in koqnueror it says "plain text file" why does it think its a text file, and how do i fix it?20:06
coreymon77did you install a vlient, or any sort of frontend, or just the server20:06
rabindracoreymon77: i installed it from the command line20:06
coreymon77client*20:06
coreymon77which package20:07
coreymon77?20:07
dhq__when building my bootis splash screen i get this error20:08
dhq__ttf.c:802: warning: pointer targets in assignment differ in signedness20:08
geniidhq__: Thats a warning, not an error20:17
dhq__genii: http://pastebin.dylanhq.com/11020:17
JoshOvkidhq__: try installing g++   always seems to work better for compliling for me20:19
geniidhq__: I think you may need to go up one directory level before running the make20:19
dhq__genii: it doesnt work20:20
SpeShi, errrrrr... where is alsaconf in Kubuntu? :(20:21
* Minnozz back20:21
JoshOvkiwb Minnozz20:22
geniidhq__: It seems to be groaning about trying to use ft2build within the code before it has been included.20:22
Minnozzty :)20:22
Minnozzgenii: So you think it's a problem with the NIC?20:22
dhq__genii: so what do i have to do to  make it ok20:22
MinnozzMy motherboard happens to have two ethernet ports, maybe I should try the other one?20:24
JoshOvkithat usualy works off the same chipset20:26
geniidhq__: No idea, however it gives an example of a line which you could try adding to the start .c file it's trying to run or the freetype header file it's trying to pull in20:26
geniiMinnozz: I had to put i2c,sata_mv, and sky2 driver names into my /etc/modules in that load order and because my sound was intelhda to recompile alsa with support for it20:28
Minnozzgenii: Hmm... you think a newer kernel will fix it?20:29
MinnozzI'm using the repository version now (2.6.22-14)20:30
geniiMinnozz: I just heard earlier today that the newest Hardy kernel update has the intelhda fix built in. Which may help, but I myself would not move to 8.04 just to get my nic working20:31
Minnozzgenii: And what about upgrading only the kernel? (ie compiling it myself)20:31
geniiMinnozz: It's possible if you feel brave :)20:32
Minnozzgenii: I'll try that, but I haven't done that before. Are there any special options I need?20:33
geniiMinnozz: There is already a kernel make-list usually which you use as a template. One minute I'll try to find you some good tutorial20:34
Minnozzgenii: Okay, thanks. I'm rebooting my PC, so I'll have internet again20:35
geniiMinnozz: There is an older (for 6.10) but very comprehensive and still relevent tutorial here: http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu20:38
Minnozzgenii: Going to try that one :)20:40
geniiMinnozz: Compiling your own kernel is not a small task for a beginner and I would recommend against it normally except for cases where there is some feature which can only be enabled by doing it.20:41
Minnozzgenii: Yeah I know, but I'm not a complete beginner; I think I'll try it20:43
geniiMinnozz: Latest kernel tree is 2.6.24-420:44
Minnozzgenii: I shouldn't use the rc's, right?20:45
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oubelhamidkubuntu.fr20:51
geniiMinnozz: Sorry for lag, work again. You mean rc->release candidate? It's up to you I guess20:53
Minnozzgenii: Yeah I meant those :) Involves some (extra?) patching I see; I'll stick with the last stable version20:53
oubelhamidgive me server for kubuntu french20:55
JoshOvki!fr | oubelhamid20:56
ubotuoubelhamid: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.20:56
JoshOvkiyour welcome 8-)20:59
oubelhamidcomment???21:01
romanahoj, je tu nekdo guru v mountovani disku?21:01
oubelhamid!!!!21:02
oubelhamidje  veux une conversation francaise21:02
JoshOvkioubelhamid:  #kubuntu-fr21:02
sourcemaker!Riddell21:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about riddell - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:02
Minnozzoubelhamid: cette channel est Anglais21:02
Minnozz( French has never been my best subject )21:04
romanhi, how i can mount ntfs disk and why my NTFS disk is shown as system SFS21:05
roman?21:05
geniiroman: If the drive is encrypted it will show as SFS21:06
roman and how i can mount it?21:08
romangenii: how i can mount it?21:09
geniiroman: If the ntfs drive was encrypted with the program provided from microsoft it cannot be mounted from linux. If it was encrypted with Trucrypt it's possible to mount it.21:10
MinnozzDo I need to download the kernel headers seperately or are they included with the source?21:11
nosrednaekimheaders are separate21:11
Minnozznosrednaekim: Do you know the 'official' download location?21:11
nosrednaekimMinnozz: the repositories, and they should be on the CD for the default kernel21:12
Minnozzthanks nosrednaekim, but I found that they are included with the source21:16
nosrednaekimoh... you said source... sorry :)21:16
nosrednaekimthought you meant the normal kernel21:16
Minnozzah okay :) np21:17
Ace2016OMG From 29th April, we’ll be banning all goods that can be digitally downloaded or transferred electronically from being listed in any format on eBay.co.uk and eBay.ie. We’re doing this to prevent bad experiences and preserve the integrity of the Feedback system.21:21
Ace2016man if it wasn't for ebay i never would have gotten something i really needed21:22
Ace2016argh wrong channel21:22
Ace2016sorry all21:22
Ace2016i thought i was in offtopic21:22
nosrednaekim:)21:23
mhollisjr I'm attempting to bind my forward and back keys, and I have a working configuration, with one major problem, if I'm holding down my right mouse button at the same time, the event doesn't fire, so my question is how can I make it so that button works even if I'm holding down button 3, but not when I'm just hitting button 3, here's my relevant  .xbindkeysrc http://pastebin.com/d7ce7a1e821:26
juakohola21:28
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damiandamian21:28
mhollisjranyone know or know where I'd have a better chance finding an answer?21:29
damianhay alguien de argentina21:34
nosrednaekim!es21:35
ubotuAquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.21:35
nosrednaekimmhollisjr: TBH..no21:35
nosrednaekimmhollisjr: google maybe ;P21:35
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mhollisjrgoogle answers what I already know, but unfortunatly makes no mention of holding down another button at the same time21:36
nosrednaekimmaybe xorg has a channel21:36
nosrednaekimtry #xorg21:37
mhollisjralright thanks for your help21:37
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* dwidmann is back.21:40
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_Redondos_hi21:42
SlimeyPetehi21:43
_Redondos_I can't play the games at: www.laplatavive.com having flash player 9 installed. Do you know why?21:43
_Redondos_maybe you can check it with your browser21:43
SlimeyPeteI am on a text-only system at the moment, sorry21:44
SlimeyPeteperhaps someone else here can help21:44
_Redondos_SlimeyPete: ok no problem, thank you anyway21:44
Nyadwhats the problem?21:45
_Redondos_Nyad: I can't play the games at: www.laplatavive.com having flash player 9 installed. Do you know why?21:45
_Redondos_it's the same adobe flash player and macromedia flash player?21:45
dwidmann_Redondos_: yes, but are you sure it doesn't require the shockwave player?21:46
Nyadlemme see if it works for me.21:46
_Redondos_dwidmann: well..21:47
_Redondos_dwidmann: don't know..21:47
dwidmann_Redondos_: does flash work for you on other sites?21:47
_Redondos_dwidmann: would you try to exec some game for me in your browser?21:47
_Redondos_yes21:47
_Redondos_although..21:47
_Redondos_www.laplatavive.com I think is designed in flash21:48
_Redondos_I mean the portal21:48
dwidmannIf flash is working for your for everything else, either it requires Shockwave or there's some sort of problem with Flash, either case you probably can't fix it.21:48
_Redondos_aja21:48
_Redondos_it asks me for a .dcr file to open21:48
Nyad_Redondos_: I can't even go to the site21:49
_Redondos_of type "x-director"21:49
_Redondos_ahh21:49
dwidmannx-director = shockwave21:49
_Redondos_ok21:49
_Redondos_mm21:49
dwidmannNot available for Linux ..... sorrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyy21:49
_Redondos_dwidmann: have you tried to enter?21:49
dwidmann(blame Adobe!!)21:49
_Redondos_ahhh21:49
_Redondos_perfect...21:49
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_Redondos_fuck you adobe21:49
eddieftwplease watch your language in here _Redondos_21:50
_Redondos_eddieftw: sorry21:50
eddieftwthat's okay21:50
dwidmanneddieftw, _Redondos_: inappropriate, but I can't help but agree21:50
ThompsonTWhere do i go to change the appearance settings of the login screen?21:50
_Redondos_well so there isn't way to make it work...21:51
Nyadhow do I stop konsole from making my beeper beep?21:51
stdindwidmann: please turn off away/back messages21:51
_Redondos_thank you dwidmann, Nyad21:51
_Redondos_bye!21:51
dwidmannstdin: Already did21:51
stdindwidmann: ok :)21:52
Nyad_Redondos_:  you do have flash-nonfree plugin installed right?21:52
_Redondos_Nyad: yes21:52
dwidmannNyad: the site said that the mimetype is x-director (aka: Adobe Shockwave)21:53
_Redondos_maybe some trick with wine?21:53
Nyadrun ie6 :)21:53
dwidmann_Redondos_: you might be able to install a  browser in wine, and shockwave along with it, YMMV21:53
_Redondos_yes.. I'll try21:54
Nyadwhats YMMV?21:54
_Redondos_the problem is that the last time I tried to execute an iexplore in wine it gave me errors..21:54
_Redondos_Nyad: you say ie6 could work?21:54
stdin_Redondos_: you can install firefox in wine, that's easier than IE21:54
_Redondos_ahh..21:55
Nyadthats a better plan21:55
_Redondos_mmm21:55
_Redondos_stdin: but it comes with shockwave installed?21:55
_Redondos_stdin: I think it doesn't...21:55
Nyadno21:55
_Redondos_well21:55
stdin_Redondos_: no, but it will install in the firefox in wine21:55
Nyadyou have to install it yourself but its easy21:55
_Redondos_well, I'll sop talking and go to download firefox and ie621:56
stdin_Redondos_: just go to a page with shockwave content and click the "install plugin" button21:56
_Redondos_aha21:56
_Redondos_perfect21:56
_Redondos_I'll try21:56
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_Redondos_I'll come back and comment you how it was22:00
_Redondos_thank you all22:00
paolignohi. i'm trying to install gtkwave (from srcs).22:00
paolignochecking for glib-config... no22:00
paolignochecking for GLIB - version >= 1.2.0... no22:00
paoligno.... any suggestion?22:01
Nyadhow do I stop konsole from making my beeper beep?22:02
fleaNyad: settings> bell > none ?22:02
Nyadnot there22:03
fleawhtas not22:04
dwidmannNyad: settings -> notifications probably22:05
Nyadkmenu-->settings-->bell22:05
fleasettings menu in konsole22:05
fleaif your menu is hidden i *think* its f1122:06
fleai can't read mine w/o glasses22:06
Nyadok its off22:07
fleaanyone here know how to force a module to .not. load at kernel boot (from install disc)22:07
fleareading ubuntu forums, someone posted something like <module>.blacklist=true22:08
stdinpaoligno: why don't you want the one that's packaged?22:08
fleabut kernel disregards it22:08
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paolignostdin: it's an old version22:09
paolignoi need the up to date onw22:09
paolignoone22:09
Kr|ptiXcan someone help me  with fixing my graphic problem http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii118/kript1x/wowss1.png22:09
stdinpaoligno: "sudo apt-get install build-essential && sudo apt-get build-dep gtkwave" to get the dependencies needed to build22:10
flealol @ wow22:10
Kr|ptiXflea :(22:11
* Kr|ptiX is back ( Away 18 hours 38 mins 43 secs )22:12
paolignostdin: didn't work22:12
stdindefine "didn't work"22:12
paolignostdin: your suggestion didn't work22:12
paolignothe error remains the same22:12
stdin!away > Kr|ptiX22:12
stdinpaoligno: after running "sudo apt-get build-dep gtkwave"  and installing those packages?22:13
paolignostdin: yes22:13
paolignostdin: i have to install gtkwave from srcs22:14
paolignonot from packages22:14
stdinpaoligno: the command I gave installs the things needed to build the source22:14
paolignostdin: but it didn't work22:15
paolignochecking for GLIB - version >= 1.2.0... no22:15
stdintry installing libglib2.0-dev22:15
paolignostdin: already installed22:15
stdinpaoligno: you need version 1.2 then, libglib1.2-dev22:17
paolignostdin: nothing22:18
stdinhas to have done someting, glib-config is in that package for a start22:19
paolignostdin: maybe i have to set some env var22:20
paolignostdin: wait: i have installed libgtk1.222:20
paolignoand now it occours another error22:20
stdinare you sure you have a newer source, it's using an old glib?22:20
stdinand an old gtk22:21
paolignostdin: ok, solved22:22
paolignothnks for your help, anyway22:23
RDChi22:23
SlimeyPetehi.22:24
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RDCnew user here...i'm hoping to get some help.... KDE3.5 was running fine until yesterday... i then installed kde4 (and along with synaptic updates), somthing has now stopped working and i now get a startup error: "unable to mount root fs on unknown block"22:26
RDCi  have tried changing the menu.lst line from uuid=xxxx to /dev/hda1 with no luck...22:26
nosrednaekimthat must be the synaptic updates.. probably an initramfs screwup22:26
nosrednaekimRDC: do you have any older kernels in GRUB?22:26
RDCnope only 1... menu.lst is:22:28
RDCtitleUbuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic22:28
RDCroot(hd0,0)22:28
RDCkernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=dbfe14e2-44c0-4d5b-84b7-e523d2ac1218 ro noapic22:28
RDCinitrd/boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic22:28
RDCquiet22:28
RDCalso recovery mode fails with same error22:28
RDCi am running under "live" session of pclinuxos22:29
RDCnosrednaekim: i am a relative newb... any suggestions as to how to diagnose/fix?22:30
nosrednaekimok22:30
nosrednaekimRDC: what about recovery mode?no entry for that?22:30
RDCyep - but same version, and fails with same error22:32
stdinyou can try mounting your root "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt" then doing "sudo -i" to get a root shell and then "chroot /mnt", then do "dpkg --configure -a" and "update-initramfs -k 2.6.22-14-generic -u" to regenerate the initrd image22:34
RDCk will try that command now22:34
stdinif pclinuxos doesn't use sudo just use "su"22:34
paule11http://www.gulli.com/22:34
stdinpaule11: ?22:35
paule1111822:35
RDC[root@dhcppc2 root]# sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt22:36
RDC[root@dhcppc2 root]# sudo -i22:36
RDC[root@dhcppc2 ~]# chroot /mnt22:36
RDCchroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Exec format error22:36
RDC[root@dhcppc2 ~]#22:36
fleau got eff'd up kernel22:36
nosrednaekimRDC: is it installed on hda1?22:37
nosrednaekimRDC: run an ls of /mnt22:37
RDC[root@dhcppc2 /]# cd mnt22:38
RDC[root@dhcppc2 mnt]# ls22:38
RDCbin/    dev/   initrd/      lib32/       media/  proc/  srv/  usr/22:38
RDCboot/   etc/   initrd.img@  lib64@       mnt/    root/  sys/  var/22:38
RDCcdrom@  home/  lib/         lost+found/  opt/    sbin/  tmp/  vmlinuz@22:38
RDC[root@dhcppc2 mnt]#22:38
stdincan you please use pastebin22:38
stdin!paste22:38
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)22:38
RDChttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62160/22:39
RDCsry - this is my first time on chat in ~10 yrs... no "pastebin" back then22:40
nosrednaekimwow...... thats odd, something is seriously screwed up there. kernel shouldn't affect chrooting22:40
RDCi'm in pclinuxos for this session - as for some reason my ubuntu live cd is also broken22:41
RDCotherwise 7.10 was working fine for ~2 months22:41
nosrednaekimRDC: well, first of all, i'd back up anything you have on that partition22:45
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RDCaccording to gentoo wiki, this chroot error is just indicating "livecd environment is not compatible with that of the installed system."22:46
nosrednaekimoh, thats a good point... did you install 64 bit ubuntu?22:46
nosrednaekimforgot about that :)22:47
RDCyep - amd6422:47
RDCsry not to mention22:47
RDC.... should i post any other info files?22:47
gkffjcsis there a way that I can force eject the cd tray, I was running an app in wine off of cd, and now I cannot eject the cd, I get an error telling me that the device is busy.22:48
nosrednaekimRDC: ok.. you need a amd64 liveCD then22:48
nosrednaekimgkffjcs: sure.... try "sudo eject /dev/cdrom0"22:49
nitingkffjcs, try this command to see if it helps, sudo eject cdrom22:50
gkffjcssudo eject cdrom worked, thanks22:51
linux__xhdfjh22:51
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RDCok, will try downloading that and picking up your instructions from there, thx22:51
RDCand nosrednaekim, thankyou very much for your help22:55
RDCand thx to stdin as well22:56
jordshow do you upgrade to the 8.04 KDE4 version? I'm tried following these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades/Kubuntu but that was going to upgrade me to the LTS version....23:05
stdin!kde4 | jords23:05
ubotujords: KDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde423:05
JoshOvkithat needs updating23:06
jordsyeah it seems so... no information on upgrading to hardy 8.04...23:08
stdinjords: 8.04 isn't released yet, that's why there are no instructions23:09
jessicai am wanting to make it apper as though i live in the US i live in england but a website is only avalable to people in the US is there any software that can do that23:11
pidusi am using kubuntu 7.10 and during an update the adept manager hung and with nothing left to do i restarted but the grub now shows Error 15: File not found23:23
dwidmannjessica: probably can be done, I wouldn't know how though, ip spoofing or something?23:24
piduswhen i try to use command line means to fix it23:24
jessicaok ill try something23:24
jessicaill post back if i do it23:25
pidusthe boot sessions runs till it stops while detecting the cdrom23:25
dwidmannpidus: you'll need to fire up a live cd and reinstall grub23:25
dwidmannpidus: I think, anyway23:25
pidusand how do i resintall grub using the live cd?23:25
paco_ciao a tutti23:26
dwidmannpidus: , in a shell, "sudo grub-install /path/to/partition/with/grub"23:26
dwidmannI think23:26
piduscan't it be done in a way similar to http://www.blogmanno.com/?q=node/6923:27
dwidmannpidus: you may also need to fix some things, in that same terminal "sudo mkdir /media/kubuntu && sudo mount /dev/path/to/kubuntu /media/kubuntu"23:28
spirooIs there someway you directly could convert a tarball (sourcefile) directly to a debian package?23:28
dwidmannOne sec, am looking.23:28
dwidmannspiroo: not really, no.23:28
dwidmannspiroo:  you could use something like checkinstall to make a half-baked debian package (good enough for personal use, IMO)23:29
spiroodwidmann: I am tired of installing sources, I want it to be simple. You always have to extract, build and a lot of things.23:29
dwidmannspiroo: though that still requires all the dev stuff to be installed and and for you to build it ....23:29
pidusi have the initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic.bak file in /boot/23:30
spiroodwidmann: If its easier than extract and all the things, I could do it. I just want it to be easier.23:30
dwidmannspiroo: c'est la vi23:30
Jucatospiroo: of course. you're not just *installing* source code... you need to compile them first. that's why they take more steps than installing a precompiled package23:30
dwidmannpidus: give it a try and see if it works23:31
spirooJucato: Yes, I know ;) Just wondering if there is a way to autocompile and then just install. Theres kind oh handy with .deb-fifiles :P You just doubleclick and isntall :D23:31
Jucato(if you only knew the amount of work that gets done to have a properly made "handy" .deb file...)23:32
dwidmannspiroo: deb packages spoil us really good :)23:32
* dwidmann has a fair idea, and shudders to think about it23:33
pidusdwidmann: it doesn't :( certainly not as simply as that page says. It stops with uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.2023:33
jordan_hey can anyone help me mount a hd plz23:33
dwidmannpidus: , I've never seen that error before23:33
Jucatospiroo: oh. and to make a .deb package.. you still need to extract and compile the sources :)23:33
dwidmann!mount23:33
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter23:33
pidusdwidmann: ok23:34
spirooYeah, but I like it easy, especially if it is applications. I have become quite greedy of the transition from Windows to GNU/Linux. Sometimes I just install applications for test. But I would like it more easy. I can do manually things of course and do some simple things in terminal. Not to advanced though :P23:34
jordan_ty but i have edited my fstab and i get error mesage23:34
spirooJucato: hehe, would be nice if there was an application that could do it for you xD lol23:34
SlimeyPetejordan_: let us know what the error is and if anyone recognises it, they'll help23:35
dwidmannJucato: IMO the tools used for building the packages are more complicated to learn that it would be to write my own script for it (assuming I woudln't be doing too many ...)23:35
Jucatospiroo: .deb packaging is definitely not that :)23:35
jordan_well when i add this line to it i get23:35
jordan_:/dev/hdb /media/hdb1 vfat user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0   023:35
Jucatospiroo: packaging benefits the end user more than the packager (you, in this case)23:36
jordan_mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb,23:36
jordan_       missing codepage or helper program, or other error23:36
jordan_       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try23:36
jordan_       dmesg | tail  or so23:36
Jucato!paste | jordan_23:36
ubotujordan_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)23:36
jordan_kk23:36
jordan_sry23:36
SlimeyPeteyou sure it's vfat? try "auto" instead of "vfat"23:37
jordan_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62180/23:37
jordan_kk23:37
spirooJucato: I guess I am just to selfish :D23:37
Jucatospiroo: not really. just too ideal :P23:37
jordan_you must specify the filesystem type23:38
Jucatospiroo: as for checkinstall, you still need to 1. extract the sources and 2. run configure and make (depending on the build system used)23:38
jordan_after running sudo mount -a23:38
jordan_it was from a previous kubuntu install if that helps23:38
Jucatospiroo: you might even be better off writing your own script to automate it than relying on packaging, as dwidmann mentioned23:38
spirooJucato: Woho, I guess I stick with the tarballs then ... :D23:38
jordan_just a data storage drive though23:38
spirooJucato: I trust you guys. What could possibly go wrong with linux, right? :P23:39
Jucatospiroo: tbh, I find it plain compiling from source easier and more manageable than using checkinstall or packaging it... specially if it's just for myself :D23:40
spirooJucato: it is not very often a package has been broken for me or anything really. Or well, KDE4 is quite buggy, but is completely understandable.23:40
spirooJucato: tbh?23:40
Jucato"to be honest"23:41
SlimeyPetejordan_: I'm not sure I can help any further but it might be a good idea to run "sudo fdisk /dev/hdb" and see what partition type fdisk thinks it is.23:41
SlimeyPeteunfortunately I haven't got access to fdisk at the moment but I think you type "p" to print the partition table (type "help" first to confirm!)23:41
TorpleI've done a fresh install of kubuntu 7.10 Is there a hardware management, device list, or detection gui tool?23:41
hyperactivecrondfdisk -l shows all of your partitions23:42
spiroobtw I found debian-builder .P23:42
hyperactivecrondTorple: what do you need it for23:42
jordan_:/dev/hdb1   *           1        4998    40146403+  83  Linux23:42
Torplehyperactivecrond: I can't get my sound to work23:42
SlimeyPete83? That's ext323:42
SlimeyPetenot vfat23:42
SlimeyPeteunless it's a vfat filesystem inside a linux partition, which would be messed-up23:43
jordan_ok i have tried ext3 and did think this first but it stil lhas same error23:43
jordan_ill do again and get back to you23:43
SlimeyPetetry ext2?23:43
dwidmannspiroo: if you think that's going to make things nice and easy for you your dreams are going to be shattered.23:44
hyperactivecrondtorple: do you know what kind of sound card you have?23:44
jordan_no same thing for ext323:44
spiroodwidmann: Yes, I just figured that out now :d23:44
hyperactivecrondext* is lame.  use reiserfs.  a murderer wrote it, so why not use it?23:44
dwidmannspiroo: by simple in the package description, it meant complicated and convoluted.23:45
jordan_ext2 no work aswell23:45
spiroodwidmann: :D23:45
TorpleMy audio is not working. I've done a fresh install and everything seems to be working except sound. What should I start to check?23:45
jordan_and @ hyperactivecrond im a new linux user but with some idea of what bash is23:45
spirooSpeaking of ext3 and ext2. Is it possible to create labels for them. In both KDE 3.5 and KDE 423:45
spirooI hade sdax, sdbz, etc etc.23:46
spiroo*hate23:46
jordan_is there anything you guys can see wrong with this line23:46
jordan_??23:46
jordan_:/dev/hdb /media/hdb1 ext3 user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0   023:46
hyperactivecrondspiroo: man fdisk23:46
hyperactivecrondjordan_: sudo /sbin/fdisk -l | grep 8323:47
dwidmannspiroo: ln -s /dev/sda1 /dev/kubuntu - for example23:47
TorpleHow do I tell what kind of audio card I have?23:48
hyperactivecronddwidmann: uh iirc udev'll clobber that when the machine reboots23:48
hyperactivecrondTorple: i'd look in your BIOS23:48
spiroodwidmann and hyperactivecrond. Thanks23:48
jordan_:/dev/hdb1   *           1        4998    40146403+  83  Linux23:48
dwidmannhyperactivecrond: hmm, might not clobber it if it's not in /dev23:48
hyperactivecrondspiroo: there's your problem23:49
hyperactivecrondin your fstab, it says 'hdb'23:49
hyperactivecrondit should be 'hdb2'23:49
hyperactivecrondhdb1 ************23:49
* dwidmann fires up quake423:49
mhollisjrwhat utility would I use if I wanted to make a keybinding that would open a program?23:50
spirooI hope this is not to far OT and OC, off channel :D Wondering if I rename, does it shows up as names in Dolphin in KDE4? For now it just say volume (ext3) for everyone :D Except for my NTFS :D23:50
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hyperactivecrondspiroo: change hdb to hdb123:50
spiroohyperactivecrond: Uhm, because? And I do not have any hdb as far as I know23:50
hyperactivecrondspiroo: cat /etc/fstab | grep hdb23:51
Torpleis there a command to restart audio?23:51
hyperactivecrondtorple: try this:23:52
hyperactivecrondopen a terminal23:52
hyperactivecrondtype cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp <enter>23:53
hyperactivecrondif you hear noise, then your sound card's working23:53
hyperactivecrondhit ctrl-c23:53
hyperactivecrondif nothing happens, hit ctrl-c23:53
dwidmannhyperactivecrond: why not just use speaker-test?23:53
spiroo"cat /etc/fstab | grep hdb", would you be kind to explain what it does?23:54
hyperactivecronddwidmann: writing random crap to dsp should be the lowest-level way there23:54
hyperactivecrondspiroo: cat shows the file, | pipes the output to grep, which searches for a string23:54
hyperactivecrondin this case, hdb23:54
Torplehyperactivecrond it says bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy when i do that command23:54
geniispiroo: It feeds the contents of the file /etc/fstab into the command grep which looks for hdb someplace in it23:55
hyperactivecrondtorple: mhm23:55
geniihyperactivecrond: heh23:55
spiroohmm, well northing happened when I typed it into my temrinal23:55
hyperactivecrondspiroo: ok then there's no sdb anything in /etc/fstab23:56
geniihyperactivecrond: hdb I think was the search and not sdb23:56
hyperactivecrondgenii: fdisk shows hdb though23:56
dwidmannThat's really weird .... mouse lags like crazy in Q4 at 1680x1050, but not at 1600x1000, oh well, 1600x1000 is close enough23:57
jordan_@ hyperactivecrond  plz look http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62186/23:57
spirooHmm, kind of confused here. I guess I try with sdb instead23:57
hyperactivecrondi hate uuids..23:58
hyperactivecrondspiroo: uname -a23:58
spirooLinux spiroo-desktop 2.6.24-15-generic #1 SMP Fri Apr 4 03:48:31 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux23:58
jordan_is that a no then hyper23:59
Kr|ptiXcan someone help me update my Intel 945GM Mobile driver23:59
geniispiroo: In previous versions of ubuntu the drives were like hda hdb hdc and so on, now they are usually sda sdb sdc and so on. Sometimes after an upgrade the fstab file does not reflect the change. But if fdisk reported hdX  (Xmeans some letter a-z) then thats what it should be23:59

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