[00:00] <Daisuke_Laptop> 2.6.24
[00:00] <basy> hi what can i use to capture avi from my webcamera in kubuntu...
[00:00] <Daisuke_Laptop> which is the default in hardy
[00:00] <_myrtille_> pteague: just understood what you really meant (probably): It's hidden somewhere in the gamesfolder
[00:02] <linux3r> AmyRose: you do tatos?
[00:07] <ames> Hello everyone, I just installed Kubuntu 7.10 (via alt.) on an ond eMac G4. Now before the login screen appears, the screen goes black. X crash? I lookes at logs but dodn't know what to look for, so...  Is there a know problem with eMacs?
[00:08] <pteague> the volume wheel on my media keyboard doesn't seem to be working correctly... any ideas?  it pops up with the volume adjust window, but only changes it by about 10% in either direction
[00:09] <ames> I think you can change that in keyboard shortcuts
[00:09] <ames> at least in xubuntu you can
[00:10] <ames> if you tweak the command
[00:11] <pteague> k, i'll look through keyboard shortcuts... in gnome it just works...
[00:13] <axel> Hello! How to remove packets installed by using "apt-get build-dep ..." and "apt-get -b source ..."?
[00:19] <ipx> When I use KDE-apps on my gnome environment in my newly reinstalled ubuntu, my text gets VERY small and almost unreadable. I've googled a bit but didnt find anything?
[00:19] <ipx> Ive tested Amarok and Smplayer
[00:19] <axel> ipx: Perhaps the kde-control-center may help.
[00:20] <ipx> So you're suggesting me to install it too?
[00:20] <ipx> Im using gnome
[00:20] <axel> ipx: Yes.
[00:20] <axel> ipx: Should not matter.
[00:20] <ipx> Cant find it in the repos
[00:21] <ipx> kcontrol, found it
[00:21] <ipx> :-)
[00:22] <ipx> lol. the fonts in there is as small as smplayer and amarok. almost unreadable :/
[00:22] <axel> ipx: I'd give it a try. I have read that this could help, but never tried it.
[00:22] <ipx> Great, it works!
[00:22] <ipx> :)
[00:22] <ipx> They were at 10 in fontsize :/
[00:24] <axel> ipx: In case it is really to small: My father helped himself by using a magnifying glass - untill I showed him how to do that with the 3D-Desktop-Effects.
[00:24] <axel> ipx: just to tell the little anekdote.
[00:25] <ubuntu> hi
[00:25] <_myrtille_> hi :)
[00:25] <SinNiji> ^_^
[00:25] <ipx> axel: Haha ;-)
[00:26] <axel> ipx: at leas one feature of Ubuntu he likes to use. But that's an other, long story.
[00:28]  * arriesp gonna go
[00:29] <SinNiji> hum.. Envy tool works on Kubuntu? well.. this is my 1st run on Kubuntu, infact I am still on LiveCD (Installing!53%)
[00:30] <Daisuke_Laptop> envy is neither recommended, nor supported.
[00:30] <Daisuke_Laptop> the recommended method of installing restricted drivers is the restricted driver manager, which is already built into ubuntu and kubuntu.
[00:31] <SinNiji> I know but the problem is that I got a 8800 gts 512mb
[00:31] <axel> SinNiji: Why use Envy when you can install the driver from the repository easily?
[00:31] <SinNiji> so to load up Kubuntu I got forced use Safe Graphic mode, and the Manager dont see my GPU
[00:31] <axel> SinNiji: And what's the problem with this card/ chipset?
[00:32] <SinNiji> The manager dont see the GPU, and I am forced to install them manually.. and I am a little noob with Linux :/
[00:34] <axel> SinNiji: That's not a problem. "No Master fell from heaven" (German Proverb)
[00:35] <SinNiji> I am not scared :D I will fix in some way
[00:35] <axel> SinNiji: Some links that might help:
[00:35] <axel> http://wiki.x.org/wiki/radeonhd
[00:35] <SinNiji> Learn never is a problem (Italian Proverb)
[00:36] <SinNiji> Mh! I will check it right now! Thanks
[00:36] <axel> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Installation_Guide
[00:36] <axel> http://xorg.freedesktop.org/archive/X11R7.0/doc/html/radeon.4.html
[00:37] <SinNiji> (8800 gts 512 is an nVidia, not ATI)
[00:37] <axel> SinNiji: Sory.
[00:37] <kkathman> where is the best place to view the kubuntu settings for the firewall
[00:37] <SinNiji> Its ok, its ok!
[00:39] <axel> SinNiji: The command "lspci | grep VGA" shows what the system thinks what's your graphics card.
[00:40] <SinNiji> Its says.. "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0600 (rev a2)"
[00:40] <axel> SinNiji: At least it recognizes that nVidia is the manufacturer.
[00:40] <SinNiji> Hahah.. Yeah. Thats something, at last:P
[00:41] <axel> SinNiji: If the drivers from the repository don't work: http://www.nvidia.it/object/linux_display_ia32_169.12_it.html
[00:42] <SinNiji> The Italian page too :) Very Kind
[00:43] <axel> SinNiji: I'd prefer to try the drivers from the repository.
[00:43] <SinNiji> I think I will try the repository one!
[00:43] <axel> SinNiji: "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new" should do it.
[00:44] <SinNiji> I will try them after this reboot. Thanks and forgive me:)
[00:44] <rowan_> */leave
[00:52] <pteague> do i need timidity running if i'm using alsa?
[00:54] <tinin> pteague no, timidity is for midi emulation
[00:55] <pteague> hmm... i'm not sure how often i actually use midi emulation... i'm guessing that should be a daemon is should be able to shut down without worrying about it causing problems?
[00:55] <tinin> only if you need karaokes or guitar and drums software
[00:55] <tinin> i need it
[00:56] <pteague> nope...  so it doesn't affect playing those old midi audio files does it?
[01:09] <pteague> ok, i'm forgetting something... how do i get the web shortcuts to work in konqueror? like gg for google
[01:10] <Jucato> pteague: they should be working by default. the default delimeter is a colon, so gg:something
[01:10] <pteague> ah, that's what i was doing wrong... i was trying to do `gg something`
[01:11] <Jucato> pteague: you can set it to use space instead
[01:11] <Jucato> Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Web Shortcuts
[01:12] <axel> SinNiji: Then configure the X-server by "sudo nvidia-xconfig" and restart the X-Server with [Strg] + [Alt] + [BackSpace]
[01:13] <eltunasexto> tengo una duda con la memoria swap alguien me ayuda?
[01:14] <Jucato> !es | eltunasexto
[01:14] <ubotu> eltunasexto: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[01:23] <mot_> hey
[01:24] <mot_> i have onboard sound plus an audigy card
[01:24] <mot_> asoundconf list lists both cards
[01:24] <mot_> i tried doing asoundconf set-default-card and setting my Audigy2 as default
[01:24] <mot_> however the setting won't "stick" and everytime i reboot sound by default plays out of my internal speaker - any idea how to fix this?
[01:28] <Dr_willis> mot_,  fast and dirty way. Put the command in your rc.local file
[01:30] <mot_> Dr_willis, yea but doesn't rc.local get executed after device detection and boot? :P
[01:33] <Dr_willis> its the last thing of the normal boot process
[01:51] <mEck0> Hi! when I doubleclick on a folder in Dolphin, it twinkles one time before the folder is opened. This makes Dolphin kind of slow. I have searched for the setting in Dolphin and System Settings, but haven't found it. what can it be?
[01:55] <Jucato> mEck0: Kubuntu is set to use single-click to open files and folders by default. did you change it to double click?
[01:57] <pteague> what is strigidaemon? is that like trackerd & beagle?
[01:57] <Jucato> sort of
[02:02] <patoe1> hey everybody
[02:03] <patoe1> ok i have a question.... if anyones here
[02:03] <mEck0> Jucato: yeah thats right
[02:04] <patoe1> im a nooobs and new to linux and i got Kubuntu and im not really sure how to install anything :(
[02:05] <Dr_willis> patoe1,  use the 'add/remove programs...' iconitem :) for many things.
[02:06] <Dr_willis> which is a front end to the apt-get system, adept is a more complex front end to apt-get.
[02:06] <patoe1> it wont let me open add/remove
[02:06] <Dr_willis> or use the terminal. 'sudo apt-get install WHATEVERpackage.'
[02:06] <Dr_willis> You are using your initial user? or did you make another one?
[02:06] <yotux> I just install gusty and I have not sound
[02:08] <patoe1> "Another process is using the packaging system database (proboly some other adept application ort apt-get aptitude)."
[02:08] <Jucato> !aptfix
[02:08] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[02:08] <patoe1> i dont have a clue to do with that code
[02:08] <Dr_willis> try this in a !terminal
[02:08] <Dr_willis> !terminal
[02:08] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[02:08] <Dr_willis> open up a terminal, cut/paste the command..
[02:09] <Dr_willis> sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:09] <Jucato> enter that command in Konsole ^^^
[02:11] <patoe1> its doing something...
[02:12] <Dr_willis> and this is a spurise? :)
[02:12] <patoe1> haha no
[02:12] <patoe1> im not totaly computer stupid, im pretty advanced but i know shit about computers and its stil not working...
[02:13] <patoe1> im going to try « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[02:13] <Dr_willis> try 'kdesu sudo adept_manager'
[02:14] <Dr_willis> do NOT paste in the >>  << things
[02:14] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:14] <patoe1> yea lol
[02:14] <Dr_willis> you dont want to know the # of times ive seen people do that.
[02:14] <patoe1> haha
[02:14] <patoe1> well im pretty computer savy
[02:14] <patoe1> but im new to linux
[02:15] <patoe1> im usually a windows guy
[02:15] <neville_> Windows :P
[02:15] <patoe1> XP :p
[02:15] <Dr_willis> !ohmy
[02:15] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[02:15] <ubuntu> hey guys question, I'm doing a complete reinstall at this point and I'm about to download an image, my question is, even though the webpage says it's not released yet, is Hardy stable enough to use at this point?
[02:15] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:16] <Dr_willis> Im usingit hardy now.
[02:16] <neville_> ?
[02:16] <Jucato> Fritzel: you might get varying answers. you can try asking in #ubuntu+1
[02:16] <Dr_willis> if its on a test system.. its ok. if its on the 'it must work for my company/school' i would refrain.
[02:16] <Daisuke_Laptop> it's stable enough to use.  it's not google-stable beta, but it's also not microsoft-stable beta
[02:16] <Daisuke_Laptop> definitely not on a production system
[02:16] <Fritzel> Jucato: er right ty, does that channel apply for kubuntu as well
[02:16] <Jucato> yep
[02:16] <Fritzel> thank you /j #ubuntu+1
[02:17] <Fritzel> oops
[02:18] <patoe1> wow its setting up alot of stuff...
[02:18] <Dr_willis> dpkg --configure -a   -- checks all packages
[02:18] <Dr_willis> some times  you get  crashes half way through installing a package.
[02:19] <patoe1> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:19] <patoe1>  linux-image-2.6.15-51-386
[02:19] <patoe1>  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-51-386
[02:19] <patoe1>  linux-image-386
[02:19] <patoe1>  linux-restricted-modules-386
[02:19] <patoe1>  linux-386
[02:19] <patoe1> ....
[02:19] <Dr_willis> thats.. odd.
[02:19] <patoe1> really why haha
[02:20] <patoe1> ....
[02:20] <patoe1> what should i do?
[02:21] <Dr_willis> it might of be saying it fixed the issues
[02:21] <Dr_willis> try a 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade' now
[02:21] <Dr_willis> that will get the system all up to date
[02:23] <patoe1> ok....
[02:23] <patoe1> ok is there an easyer way then that
[02:24] <patoe1> i get a huge error
[02:24] <Kr|ptiX> how do i kno wat graphic card i got cuz i wanna see if i can update it
[02:25] <yotux> how is your graphics card connected to your computer?
[02:25] <Dr_willis> Kr|ptiX,  lspci
[02:25] <patoe1> Reading package lists... Done
[02:25] <patoe1> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:25] <patoe1> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[02:25] <patoe1> 5 not fully installed or removed.
[02:25] <patoe1> Need to get 0B of archives.
[02:25] <patoe1> After unpacking, 0B of additional disk space will be used.
[02:25] <patoe1> Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
[02:25] <Dr_willis> we dont need a pasteof all the info. :) just the imporntant bits.
[02:25] <patoe1> sorry
[02:25] <Dr_willis> none of which you pasted was an error. :)
[02:25] <patoe1> lol i dont know whats important...
[02:27] <patoe1> sorry back....
[02:28] <patoe1> idk what to do...
[02:28] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. was there an actual error?
[02:28] <patoe1> a huge one
[02:28] <patoe1> the one i copy pasted
[02:28] <Dr_willis> it should of updated, then upgraded the system. and  then returned to the shell
[02:28] <Dr_willis> what you copu/pasted was NOT an error.
[02:29] <Dr_willis> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[02:29] <patoe1> dpkg: error processing linux-restricted-modules-386 (--configure):
[02:29] <patoe1>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[02:29] <patoe1> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-386:
[02:29] <patoe1>  linux-386 depends on linux-image-386; however:
[02:29] <patoe1>   Package linux-image-386 is not configured yet.
[02:29] <patoe1>  linux-386 depends on linux-restricted-modules-386; however:
[02:29] <patoe1>   Package linux-restricted-modules-386 is not configured yet.
[02:29] <patoe1> dpkg: error processing linux-386 (--configure):
[02:29] <patoe1>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[02:29] <patoe1> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg exited unexpectedly
[02:29] <patoe1> what anout that
[02:29] <Dr_willis> !pastebin | patoe1
[02:29] <ubotu> patoe1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:29] <Dr_willis> now thats an error message. :)
[02:30] <patoe1> lol
[02:30] <patoe1> thanks 8-)
[02:30] <Dr_willis> i  wonder how those could of gotten messed up.
[02:30] <neville_> I think the equivalent error in windows is a blue screen and hex codes :P
[02:30] <Dr_willis> sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-restricted-modules-386
[02:30] <Dr_willis> for a start I guess. seens thers 3 packatges not confogured properly
[02:31] <patoe1> i just installed it , but when i did the GUI update i stoped it halfway though by accident
[02:31] <Dr_willis> heh..
[02:31] <patoe1> patoe1@Chase:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-restricted-modules-386
[02:31] <patoe1> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: linux-restricted-modules-386 is broken or not fully installed
[02:31] <patoe1> i like to flood :)
[02:32] <Dr_willis> do a 'lsb_release -a' and a 'uname -a' and tell us what those say
[02:32] <Dr_willis> we need the version of kubntu you got, and the kernel #.
[02:32] <patoe1> how do i do that?
[02:33] <Dr_willis> run those 2 commands, read what they say. :)
[02:33] <Dr_willis> Release:        #####.### for one
[02:33] <Dr_willis> uname -a - will print a line as to what kernel you are using
[02:33] <patoe1> lsb_release: error: no such option: -
[02:33] <patoe1> patoe1@Chase:~$ lsb_release -a
[02:33] <patoe1> No LSB modules are available.
[02:33] <patoe1> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[02:33] <patoe1> Description:    Ubuntu 6.06.2 LTS
[02:33] <patoe1> Release:        6.06
[02:33] <patoe1> Codename:       dapper
[02:33] <patoe1> patoe1@Chase:~$
[02:33] <patoe1> thats what i got...
[02:34] <Dr_willis> we just needed the 'release' :) like i said.. heh heh
[02:34] <Jucato> !flood | patoe1
[02:34] <ubotu> patoe1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:34] <genii> !paste | patoe1
[02:34] <Dr_willis> dapper? egads thats old..
[02:34] <genii> Dr_willis: But still supported :)
[02:34] <Dr_willis> genii,  support him then!
[02:34] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:34] <genii> hehe
[02:34] <patoe1> Linux Chase 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:35] <genii> Dr_willis: I got ere in the middle of it all, don't even know is current issue
[02:35] <genii> *his
[02:35] <Dr_willis> patoe1,  since this is a test box for you. you Might want to get a newer release of kubuntu  and install the newer version.
[02:35] <Daisuke_Laptop> almost ten kernel revisions behind -_-
[02:35] <Daisuke_Laptop> but yes, still supported
[02:35] <patoe1> how do i get the newer version....i DL'd it today??
[02:36] <Dr_willis> patoe1,   you downaded the 'lts' version wich is the 'stable' for businesses type version
[02:36] <patoe1> err..
[02:36] <Dr_willis> the next LTS release is due out in a few weeks/days
[02:36] <patoe1> any ideas of waht i should DL and install
[02:36] <Dr_willis> depends on how brave you want to be. :)
[02:37] <genii> patoe1: Wait until after the 24th and then get the 8.04 release
[02:37] <patoe1> well im a brave guy this isnt my good computer
[02:37] <Dr_willis> Its not like its going to hurt the pc.. the worse thing that can happenis you have to reinstall.
[02:37] <patoe1> the computers blank anyways
[02:37] <Dr_willis> Hardy - is the next release 8.04 version - You are using a version that is 2 yrs old. ;)
[02:38] <Dr_willis> there are beta cd's of it out now.
[02:38] <cuzntx> we use computors at work that their time runs backwards
[02:38] <patoe1> im confuzed :p
[02:38] <Dr_willis> patoe1,  every 6 months the next releae of ubuntu is released.
[02:39] <Dr_willis> http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php   shows 2 versions.. you donloaded the older one it seems
[02:39] <patoe1> i need kubuntu though kuz ubuntu didnt work on this computer
[02:39] <Dr_willis> if kubuntuworks,, ubuntu should work.
[02:39] <Dr_willis> they are identical at the core.
[02:39] <patoe1> hmm
[02:39] <patoe1> well it didnt
[02:39] <patoe1> but this works
[02:39] <patoe1> i like the blue better anyways ;)
[02:40] <patoe1> so gutsy?
[02:40] <Dr_willis> so you get to decide.. try to get the old version going, try the newer 'gutsy' release. or try the SOON TO BE RELESED version hardy - at  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/hardy/beta/
[02:40] <Dr_willis> Gutsy is a safe bet. You can always reinstall/upgrade in 20 days or so
[02:41] <patoe1> well what do you sugest?
[02:41]  * genii twitces
[02:41] <genii> My H key seems recalcitrant today
[02:42] <Dr_willis> Im testing out hardy. If your machine is a total test box, and you dont do any real work with it.. You could try hardy.
[02:42] <Dr_willis> if you NEED it to work.. stick to gutsy
[02:42] <Dr_willis> if you are running a company and want to pay for comercial support - stick with the dapper LTS
[02:42] <patoe1> well my good computer is getting work done on it and i wnat this one running i cant do a whole lot on it but i wnat to watch like youtube messenger and blah blah
[02:43] <Dr_willis> youtubeis not 'work' :)
[02:43] <Dr_willis> hardy can do all that.. as can gutsy.
[02:43] <patoe1> haha
[02:43] <patoe1> yea
[02:43] <Dr_willis> but hardy is undergoing updates - it can 'break' at times.
[02:43] <patoe1> so ill try gutsy so i dont have to worry??
[02:43] <MrJoey> genii> Try mashing down on the keyboard; I think the problem is that the H key is too high up to reach the inside button.  (I saw a similar problem with an M key on a keyboard)
[02:44] <ames> the H key is different though!
[02:44] <MrJoey> It's smack dab in the middle, thus prone to being lifted too high, possibly moreso than M
[02:44] <patoe1> so gutsy is better so i dont have to worry about it crashing?
[02:45] <patoe1> Download Kubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) the latest Kubuntu release
[02:45] <patoe1> that one?
[02:46] <Slynderdale> How do I make it default behavior to open files on a double click and not a single click?
[02:46] <Dr_willis> patoe1,  thats the one
[02:46] <patoe1> anyone waht to tell me?
[02:46] <patoe1> ok thanks
[02:46] <Dr_willis> in linux it pays to learn to 'think' and rember. :)
[02:47] <stdin> Slynderdale: system settings -> keyboard & mouse -> mouse
[02:47] <genii_> Bah ghosted
[02:47] <patoe1> now how do i burn and ISO on linux :|
[02:47] <stdin> open k3b
[02:47] <pteague> does kmail have similar spam tools that thunderbird has?
[02:47] <patoe1> and weres k3b
[02:48] <stdin> under multimedia in the kmenu
[02:48] <patoe1> thank you
[02:48] <patoe1> 436 kb's
[02:53] <kkathman> how do I see what workgroup is assigned to my kubuntu install ?
[02:53] <kkathman> and then change it
[02:54] <patoe1> ok well thanks for hte help
[02:54] <patoe1> ill install this one i gotta drive my dad someware :p
[02:54] <epimeth> kkathman: the smb client can see any workgroup...
[02:54] <epimeth> kkathman: do you want to share folders or see shared ones?
[02:54] <genii> kkathman: If you have a regular install it won't have one, since it will just use smbclient only
[02:54] <yotux> if I want udf 2.5 support do i need to make my own kernel?
[02:55] <kkathman> epimeth:  well ya I can access my windows box on the network, but cant see any other boxes on the network
[02:55] <mEck0> Hi! is there a good dictionary app for KDE? I haven't found any in by default so thought I will install one. btw, is there even ones that you can use offline without network connection? that would be nice
[02:55] <genii> yotux: The short answer is yes
[02:55] <epimeth> kkathman: you should see all workgroups on the network
[02:55] <kkathman> its weird I can smb:/servername  in konq - and its shows up everything, but can just type smbl:/
[02:55] <kkathman> smb:/
[02:56] <NickPresta> mEck0, there is kdict, which has the ability for offline usage.
[02:56] <yotux> genii: found a patch
[02:56] <kkathman> epimeth:  I dont - it says it cant find any
[02:56] <yotux> but it states that i need kernel source
[02:57] <kkathman> well ok - now it seems to be working :)
[02:57] <kkathman> lol
[02:57] <mEck0> NickPresta: yes, there exists one, thx a lot!!
[02:57] <kkathman> hmm musta held my mouth just right
[02:57] <epimeth> kkathman: heh.  nice one brova
[02:57]  * kkathman hates it when things are mysterious like this
[02:57] <genii> yotux: I know, I've investigated trying to get udf 2.5 support myself, since Vista uses it to make backups on dvd
[02:59] <yotux> genii: have you gotten it to work?
[02:59] <genii> yotux: Not yet
[02:59] <yotux> ok
[02:59] <yotux> genni: on my other box running beta I was able to get it to work
[03:00] <mEck0> NickPresta: are you sure you can use it offline? because it doesn't seem so by default at least
[03:01] <bobleny> Does anyone know of a way to edit ISO images?
[03:02] <Dr_willis> bobleny,  kiso - i think can do that
[03:02] <Dr_willis> depends on what you want to edit i guess
[03:03] <mEck0> NickPresta: founded some info now....
[03:03] <stdin> you can always do it the manual way: mount it, copy it's contents to another folder, modify the files, then recreate the ISO
[03:03] <NickPresta> mEck0, I believe you would install dictd and related dict-* packages. Have dictd running and then open up Kdict. In the settings, change the server to localhost (on the port dictd is running) and it should work.
[03:03] <epimeth> kkathman: mysterious?  have you ever *tried* to access a workgroup using 9x / me ?
[03:03] <NickPresta> mEck0, check out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=145949
[03:04] <kkathman> epimeth:  sadly, yes :)
[03:05] <bobleny> mEck0: I tried that, but I wasn't able to copy the files...I can mount it ok, but even, sudo cp /path/to/mounted/iso /another/dir/ says it wont do it...
[03:05] <mEck0> NickPresta: thx a lot :)
[03:05] <mEck0> bobleny: okay :S
[03:05] <bobleny> Opps wrong person... Sorry last message was for stdin...
[03:06] <Kr|ptiX> can someone help me  with fixing my graphic problem http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii118/kript1x/wowss1.png
[03:07] <stdin> bobleny: what's the error you get?
[03:11] <bobleny> stdin: Sorry about the wait... it says this: cp: omitting directory `/media/iso/boot'
[03:11] <stdin> bobleny: for copying directories use "cp -r"
[03:13] <bobleny> Wow...
[03:13] <bobleny> God, I'm stupid...
[03:14] <bobleny> stdin: is there a utility for creating iso images?
[03:14] <stdin> I use k3b
[03:15] <bobleny> K3B can create ISOs???
[03:15] <stdin> just check the "Only create image" box when you choose "burn"
[03:17] <tidalwav1> Hi all, I'm wondering where the KDE3 version of Kubuntu Hardy Beta stores its session files? I want to create a new session type that uses KDE with xmonad
[03:17] <bobleny> stdin: I don't see that option...
[03:17] <kamui> I screwed up setting up my locale
[03:17] <kamui> now its generating all locales
[03:17] <kamui> if I stop it, I cant apt anything until dpkg --configure -a has basically redone it
[03:17] <kamui> is there a way to remove the half configured locales package?
[03:18] <stdin> bobleny: just create a normal data cd, then when you choose "burn" there should be several check boxes, one of them is "only create image"
[03:20] <bobleny> stdin: Oh, that's cool... Thanks!
[03:21] <machinatoor> this is a support channel for kubuntu?
[03:22] <Slynderdale> Does linux have an equivelent to a start/run command as in windows?
[03:22] <MrJoey> In KDE, you can go to K menu, Run Command
[03:23] <Jucato> Alt+F2, KMenu -> Run Command, right-click on desktop -> Run command
[03:23] <Slynderdale> MrJoey: I meant in the terminal. LIke run command
[03:24] <machinatoor> I'll take that as a yes, I ran a linux game (savage 2) and when it crashed the screen started flashing black every couple oof seconds and anything clickable loses all text and graphics.  Rebooting does not fix.  Any Ideas?
[03:24] <MrJoey> What does it do?  What's the difference between "run kwrite" and "kwrite"?
[03:25] <MrJoey> machinatoor> Try a Live CD and see if the problem goes away.  If not, you may have a damaged video card.
[03:27] <Slynderdale> MrJoey: Trying to find a way to run a command without halting the current shell process. Basicly running the command as another process.
[03:28] <sl4mm3r> i need help with moblock :/
[03:28] <Jucato> Slynderdale: "<command> &"
[03:30] <Daisuke_Ido> Slynderdale, just bear in mind that you need to "exit" the terminal rather than just closing it, if you want the launched process to continue
[03:31] <Kr|ptiX> can someone help me  with fixing my graphic problem http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii118/kript1x/wowss1.png
[03:33]  * Kr|ptiX is Away, Reason: ( at my friends crib ) | Since: ( Thursday, April 3, 2008. 17:51:00 ) Xlack v2.1
[03:34] <NickPresta> !away > Kr|ptiX
[03:36] <metbsd> does 7.04 cd have kde4?
[03:36] <MrJoey> If you want to run a command in the background, you can type "command &", then disown
[03:36] <mogger> I just installed Kubuntu and the package manager says firefox is already installed but i dont see it in the internet menu in the K menu. Where is it and how do i launch it?
[03:36] <MrJoey> That will keep the detached process from quitting when the terminal session is ended
[03:36] <metbsd> i need kde4 plz
[03:36] <NickPresta> metbsd, Feisty doesn't have KDE4 packages, as far as I know.
[03:37] <metbsd> NickPresta: so what do i do
[03:37] <metbsd> isi 10G enough for kubuntu?
[03:37] <MrJoey> I guess uninstall KDE 3, upgrade to gutsy, and install KDE 4
[03:37] <epimeth> metbsd: totally
[03:37] <NickPresta> metbsd, you have 2 choices, I guess. Install Gutsy/Hardy and grab KDE 4, or stick with Feisty.
[03:37] <MrJoey> By uninstalling KDE 3, you won't have to download that
[03:38] <NickPresta> metbsd, 10G is more than enough for Kubuntu and such.
[03:38] <metbsd> i have 7.04 dvd here, is it trash now?
[03:39] <MrJoey> metbsd> It is indeed wise to use CD/DVD RWs for Linux distributions. However, the 7.04 can be used to install and then upgrade.
[03:41] <mogger> How do I know where firefox is?
[03:41] <MrJoey> Type whereis firefox
[03:41] <NickPresta> Or, which firefox
[03:42] <mogger> how do i launch it?
[03:42] <MrJoey> Does typing firefox work?
[03:42] <NickPresta> mogger, Alt + F2, type in 'firefox' (sans quotes)
[03:43] <mogger> it says
[03:44] <mogger> Package firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:44] <mogger> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[03:44] <mogger> is only available from another source
[03:44] <mogger> E: Package firefox has no installation candidate
[03:44] <firecrotch> mogger: what version of Kubuntu are running?
[03:44] <mogger> 7.10
[03:45] <mogger> i just tried to do an apt-get install firefox and thats what happend
[03:45] <mogger> are my repositories messed up? I just got done with a fresh install
[03:47] <MrJoey> Maybe you need to enable universe or something, though I thought firefox was in canonical
[03:47] <firecrotch> !info firefox
[03:47] <ubotu> Package firefox does not exist in gutsy
[03:47] <firecrotch> Um.... that's not right....
[03:48] <stdin> firefox is in main
[03:48] <firecrotch> Well someone needs to kick ubotu then :-P
[03:48] <stdin> when you install with no net connection enabled the repos are disabled, you need to re-enable them
[03:49] <mogger> ah that's probably it stdin, thanks
[03:50]  * firecrotch gently taps ubotu with his foot
[03:50] <Piffer> question: right after Kubuntu install, the internal laptop fan is not spinning, which app would make it spin again?
[03:51] <Piffer> with just Ubuntu installed, the fan works fine..
[03:51] <stdin> no apps make it spin, it's controlled by the kernel. which both ubuntu and kubuntu share
[03:52] <firecrotch> Piffer:  Perhaps the computer is not getting hot enough that it needs to turn the fan on
[03:53] <Piffer> firecrotch: it's getting hella hot :-(  As soon as I get Ubuntu booted from Live-CD, the fan is going full speed
[03:53] <Piffer> reading up on what lm-sensors is... maybe that is the key?
[03:54] <stdin> !sensors
[03:54] <ubotu> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[03:54] <Piffer> :-) thanks
[04:03] <frank__> greetings
[04:03] <frank__> anyone from miami?
[04:04] <TeslaTony> Would anyone know how to retrieve a lost IRC password?
[04:06] <firecrotch> TeslaTony:  I believe you have to msg a freenode staffer
[04:07] <stdin> TeslaTony: ask in #freenode
[04:07] <firecrotch> TeslaTony:  /stats p should get you some help, according the the freenode FAQ
[04:08] <firecrotch> it lists all the freenode staffers who are on-call
[04:24] <jimmy51> anyone here use an ipod touch with kubuntu 7.10 ?
[04:25] <thumper> yes
[04:25] <thumper> jimmy51: yes
[04:25] <thumper> so what's the story with knotify4?
[04:25] <jimmy51> thumper:  did it require some crazy firmware stuff on the ipod?
[04:25] <epimeth> how can I get to the power management options?
[04:25] <thumper> jimmy51: no just some updates to amarok and something else
[04:26] <thumper> jimmy51: added a LP PPA to my sources.list
[04:26] <thumper> and tada, it works
[04:26] <jimmy51> thumper: got a tutorial link?
[04:26] <epimeth> I have it set to dynamic but even when plugged in my cpu is working at "half mast"
[04:27] <thumper> jimmy51: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ipod-touch/ubuntu gutsy main
[04:27] <thumper> jimmy51: and no tutorial, sorry
[04:27] <epimeth> hay thumper!
[04:30] <jimmy51> thumper:  gtkpod?
[04:31] <thumper> jimmy51: could be...
[04:31] <thumper> jimmy51: my memory isn't as good as it once was
[04:31] <thumper> epimeth: hi
[04:31]  * thumper off to make a call
[04:31] <jimmy51> thumper:  memtest86
[04:31] <jimmy51> :)
[04:31] <epimeth> anyone?  power management/
[04:32] <firecrotch> epimeth:  Mine has always done that, I've never really taken a look into it though, since I don't mind it scaling down when it can, even when it's plugged in
[04:33] <epimeth> but when its plugged in I *want* it to be at 100%
[04:33] <firecrotch> jimmy51: both amarok and gtkpod can sync with the iPod Touch, there's a guide here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[04:34] <firecrotch> epimeth:  I'll boot into Kubuntu and see what I can figure out :) I'll be back shortly :)
[04:34] <epimeth> cheers
[04:37] <jimmy51> firecrotch:  that involves the jailbreak firmware stuff
[04:37] <epimeth> jimmy51: firecrotch is gone
[04:37] <epimeth> he'll be back shortly
[04:39] <chipbuddy> if i'm having graphics problems in ubuntu (all white screen) is it possible switching to kubuntu will fix that? or is the lower level graphics stuff all the same?
[04:39] <firecrotch> chipbuddy:  You'll likely have problems in Kubuntu as well
[04:40] <jimmy51> firecrotch:  that involves the jailbreak firmware stuff
[04:40] <epimeth> firecrotch: lemme know what you got a chance :-)
[04:40] <firecrotch> jimmy51: oh, yours isn't jailbroken?
[04:40] <epimeth> lol @ firecrotch
[04:41] <epimeth> you say that so surprised-like :-)
[04:41] <epimeth> and you forgot the "yet" :-)
[04:41] <firecrotch> well I figure since he's running linux, he's a geek.  and most geeks have theirs jailbroken :)
[04:42] <epimeth> isn't ubuntu supposed to be the "linux for not geeks"  I mean "linux for everyone"
[04:42] <jimmy51> firecrotch: it was at one point, but i was stuck at a certain point
[04:42] <Odd-rationale> epimeth: "Linux for human beings"
[04:42] <jimmy51> firecrotch:  i installed the bsd utils, but ssh was never available
[04:43] <jimmy51> firecrotch:  so i reverted to defaults.  i'd really like it to "just work" instead of crazy hacks... but apple = crapple
[04:43] <epimeth> thank you Odd-rationale ... I was being silly
[04:43] <jimmy51> and... the tutorial for jailbreaking that i used seems to be down now
[04:44] <jimmy51> goals for this thing:  be able to put music on it (and remove it), pop3/imap mail client
[04:44] <firecrotch> epimeth:  Have you right clicked the Power Manager icon in the tray and gone to "Restore" ?
[04:45] <jimmy51> do you have a current link for jailbreaking?
[04:45] <epimeth> awesome.  thanks firecrotch
[04:45] <firecrotch> jimmy51: I don't, but I read on Digg that someone just released an application that does everything for you
[04:46] <firecrotch> epimeth:  no problem :)
[04:46] <jimmy51> iBrick?  i saw one for the phone...
[04:48] <jimmy51> actually... with no native way to do it, i guess this isn't a kubuntu question anymore...
[04:48] <jimmy51> i'll quit wasting channel space
[04:50] <firecrotch> jimmy51: I thought that iBreak works on everything, I'd assume so since the iTouch is basically an iPhone with no phone
[04:51] <firecrotch> er... s/iBreak/iBrick/
[04:52] <firecrotch> I could be wrong, I'm not really all that familiar with jailbreaking, just what I've read about it
[04:52] <Masticore> Is it possible to remove the subdirs in the menu in KDE? Instead of Internet>Webbrowsers>Firefox, its just Internet>Firefox, like in Gnome.
[04:53] <jimmy51> k
[04:53] <jimmy51> i'll try it
[04:55] <firecrotch> Masticore:  Sure.  Just right klick on the KMenu, and go to Menu Editor
[04:56] <Masticore> oh, thanks
[04:57] <firecrotch> Masticore:  you're welcome :)
[04:57] <nyko> how to close a bug program
[04:57] <nyko> sudo quit konqueror ?
[04:58] <Masticore> Doesnt kde have a force quit program, like gnome?
[04:58] <jimmy51> nyko:  ctrl+esc
[04:58] <jimmy51> nyko: select the process and click kill
[04:59] <nyko> and for kil unknown process ?
[05:00] <gkffjcs> dumb networking question, can more than one service be connected to the same port at the same IP address at the same time, lets say that I have openvpn and ssh running on port 22, will there be a conflict
[05:01] <jimmy51> nyko:  kill whatever you want to kill
[05:01] <jimmy51> nyko:  (in kubuntu.... on your computer.... not in real life :) )
[05:01] <nyko> but i not find unknown
[05:01] <nyko> jimmy51 hahahahah
[05:01] <firecrotch> gkffjcs:  Yes, there will most certainly be a conflict there
[05:02] <gkffjcs> thanks!
[05:02] <firecrotch> gkffjcs:  In fact, that's the whole reason that there are ports in the first place!
[05:02] <neul> hi LadyNikon
[05:03] <neul> are yu a real lady
[05:04] <firecrotch> !offtopic > neul
[05:05] <rodrigo_> hola
[05:07] <emilio> necesito ayuda
[05:07] <emilio> alguien habla españoil
[05:07] <emilio> necesito saber como instalar
[05:07] <emilio> tengo kubuntu
[05:07] <emilio> quiero instalar flash player
[05:07] <Odd-rationale> !es | emilio
[05:07] <ubotu> emilio: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[05:08] <emilio> hola
[05:08] <emilio> necesito
[05:08] <emilio> ayuda
[05:08] <emilio> para instalar flash player en kubuntu 7.10
[05:08] <emilio> alguien me puede ayudar?
[05:08] <maduser> si
[05:08] <emilio> dime como hacerlo maduser
[05:08] <maduser> mi espanol es mal
[05:08] <emilio> ok intentalo
[05:09] <Odd-rationale> !en
[05:09] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[05:09] <emilio> mi he descomprimido el .targ y no se como ponetlo
[05:10] <emilio> dime como puedo hacerlo
[05:10] <kkathman> !es
[05:10] <ubotu> Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[05:10] <maduser> ok donwload flash player para kubuntu de http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[05:10] <maduser> usa el tar.gz
[05:10] <emilio> como lo uso
[05:10] <emilio> ?
[05:10] <emilio> como
[05:11] <jimmy51> emilio: "/join #kubuntu-es"
[05:11] <maduser> abajo select version to download
[05:12] <emilio> ya lo hice
[05:12] <emilio> tengo la version
[05:12] <emilio> correcta maduser
[05:12] <emilio> lo que me falta es instalar
[05:12] <emilio> el archivo
[05:12] <Ukonpoika> !es | emilio
[05:12] <ubotu> emilio: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[05:13] <modoc> ok
[05:13] <modoc> maduser soy emilio
[05:13] <maduser> ok
[05:14] <maduser> para instalar primero visita http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[05:14] <maduser> k?
[05:14] <Ukonpoika> Operators? Kick these guys out.
[05:17] <Xcerca> how can i install grub-bootsplash  , it's not showing up on aptitude or synaptic ,  are there extra repo's that i should add ?
[05:17] <firecrotch> Xcerca:  I don't think there's a package for it
[05:18] <Xcerca> is it just an option in menu.lst that i can add ?
[05:18] <Xcerca> splashimage=(hd0,0)/GRUB/myfile.xpm.gz
[05:19] <Xcerca> found it
[05:19] <maduser> modoc?
[05:36] <pirate_chef> helloo
[05:36] <Claybrain145> ello
[05:37] <pirate_chef> I was wondering if anyone had suggestions on formatting my flash drive
[05:38] <pirate_chef> I used dd to erase it, and now it's hosed
[05:39] <firecrotch> pirate_chef:  Is there anything specific you had in mind? because you can pretty much format it like any other drive
[05:42] <pirate_chef> Well, I tried using fdisk, DOS format...that didn't seem to work
[05:42] <firecrotch> pirate_chef: Maybe parted will work?
[05:44] <pirate_chef> I've never used parted before, but I'll give it a shot
[05:44] <pirate_chef> thanks!
[05:44] <firecrotch> pirate_chef:  Otherwise you could try using dd to copy a working flash drive to the broken one
[05:56] <Xcerca> anybody know if i can use the gfxboot package on X86_64  ,  it is called xxx_i386.deb and i don't know if i should try to use it
[05:57] <stdin> if it's an i386.deb then no
[05:57] <Xcerca> i just found a 64 ver  ,   nm , thx
[06:10] <atlantiszhang> ?
[06:30] <patoe1> hey
[06:32] <patoe1> hey everyone, im just wondering how i know if my kubuntu is totaly updated
[06:33] <stdin> if adept shows no updates available after you click "Fetch Updates", then you're up-to-date
[06:33] <patoe1> ...
[06:33] <patoe1> thats under system?
[06:34] <stdin> KMenu -> System -> Adept Manager
[06:34] <stdin> or "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" from a terminal
[06:38] <patoe1> it says another prosses is using the packageing system database
[06:38] <stdin> !aptfix
[06:38] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[06:42] <patoe1> *** qt_plugins_3.3rc (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ? it wants my input....
[06:43] <stdin> choose "Y" to get the newest version from the package or "N" to keep the one you have
[07:00] <a2h> hi, i've been trying to upgrade to kde 4.0.3 with the repository given on the kubuntu homepage, distro is 7.10 kde4 remix, i've been getting an error with the konqueror 4.0.2 -> 4.0.3 upgrade.
[07:01] <a2h> the error is "dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/konqueror-kde4_4%3a4.0.3-0ubuntu1~gutsy1~ppa1_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/kde4/lib/kde4/libkcminit_nsplugins.so', which is also in package kdebase-bin-kde4"
[07:02] <a2h> wait. crap. there's a kde4 channel? >_<
[07:04]  * DOOM_NX good morning all
[07:04] <stefan-f> hello all :)
[07:04] <patoe1> ok i apened adept manager and i dont know how to see if its up to date now...
[07:05] <stefan-f> can I restore a partimage image to a different machine?
[07:12] <neptunepink> I'm having some issues
[07:12] <Daisuke_Ido> i'll say, everyone knows neptune's purple! :)
[07:12] <Daisuke_Ido> and on that note, i'm off to bed
[07:13]  * Daisuke_Ido isn't exactly helpful tonight
[07:13] <neptunepink> I suspect my hard drive is dying or something
[07:14] <neptunepink> Like, I try to ssh in or something and everything dies
[07:26] <fulat2k> hi folks, i've 2GB ram.  is it normal for kernel to use ~1.4GB of RAM for caching?  that's what's reported via free -m
[07:27]  * Jucato doesn't see why not
[07:27] <Jucato> that's actually good
[07:32] <fulat2k> Jucato: i assume the kernel will magically limit how much ram to use as cache and never exceed the amount of physical ram?
[07:33] <Jucato> fulat2k: when the system needs more RAM for applications, it will reduce the cache to give room for applications
[07:33] <Jucato> !ram | fulat2k
[07:33] <ubotu> fulat2k: A quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html
[07:39] <fulat2k> Jucato: cool.  think i read that b4 though :P
[07:40] <Jucato> then you should know :P
[07:40] <fulat2k> Jucato: prolly didn't read it thoroughly :D  ahahah
[07:41] <TeslaTony> KRecipes thinks that 2/3=0.75...is the universe about to implode?
[07:41] <Jucato> prolly :)
[07:42] <TeslaTony> Is there any way to fix this thing without calling on the services of wandering timelords?
[07:48] <AlferedHichcok> i think i have to reconfigure kde? how to do it? heres an error i got for wine http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/3246/snapshot1wn5.png ?
[07:49] <Jucato> try reinstalling kde-guidance
[07:51] <Gandalf> Hi, I have a fresh install of kubuntu, with samba installed. I have a box with WinXP on it and am trying to get the two to see each other, already have a workgroup set up on Windows, and edited my smb.conf with the workgroup name.. obviously I'm missing other settings as they won't see each other. Any help would be greatly appreciated
[08:04]  * dwidmann is away: Gone away for now.
[08:04] <AlferedHichcok> i think i have to reconfigure kde? how to do it? heres an error i got for wine http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/3246/snapshot1wn5.png ?
[08:06] <dwidmann> AlferedHichcok: I would try running " sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[08:06] <dwidmann> I don't really have time to say much more than that for now ... gotta get ready for work
[08:07] <Jucato> dwidmann: please turn off your public away message later. thanks :)
[08:07] <Jucato> AlferedHichcok: I already answered earlier: [14:49] <Jucato> try reinstalling kde-guidance
[08:10] <pteague> ok, i suddenly seem to be having a weird problem...  i'm in firefox, press ctrl+f & up pops xterm...  wth?
[08:11] <AlferedHichcok> Jucato,  what is kde-guidance. how to install it?
[08:12] <AlferedHichcok> dwidmann,  i have the latest
[08:12] <Jucato> AlferedHichcok: it's a package. you install it like any other app or package. Adept Manager or apt-get
[08:12] <Jucato> pteague: only happens in firefox? if yes, try checking Firefox's keyboard shortcuts (don't know where that is though)
[08:13] <pteague> Jucato> i just noticed it in firefox... seems to be doing the same in xchat & kate
[08:14] <pteague> i went through & check the global shortcuts & nothing in there for ctrl+f ... there is an entry with ctrl+f under application shortcuts -> edit -> find ... which is what i was expecting
[08:14] <Jucato> pteague: maybe you set Ctrl+F in KDE's shortcuts to launch xterm? are you using something like compiz?
[08:16] <pteague> afaik i'm not using compiz... might i have accidently done something to have activated it? i was previously using gnome, just switched yesterday & this is the first i've noticed it... but then this may be the first time i've tried since the switch
[08:19] <albertronico> Kubuntu es un coñazo al lado de windows !!!
[08:20] <Jucato> !es
[08:20] <ubotu> Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[08:21] <pteague> guess i'll restart x & head to bed... hope it works tomorrow...
[08:23] <dennister> hey channel...could anyone help me write a shell script to start my server apps *after* bootup? I've already stopped them from starting automatically
[08:24] <kai> hi folks, is there a GUI or ncurses tool to manage lvms? or is it back to good old lvmcreate et. al?
[08:25] <kai> whoops, brb
[08:26] <kblin> re
[08:26] <dennister> the way i envisioned this script is: bootup, then konsole opens, inits apache, which is interrupted by me being asked for rsa passphrase, then finishes apache startup, then other server apps are started
[08:27] <dennister> <---------total scripting newb here
[08:31] <Nyad> Hello
[08:32] <pucko-> Hello. Where is .za?
[08:33] <phaedru2> pucko: .za is South Africa
[08:34] <pucko-> alright
[08:35] <Nyad> Im from there :)
[08:38] <Nyad> Is there a portable linux? like something which I can take to another pc and have access to all my files, like basically a portable pc but only with the software? I have a 120GB USB HD so I can use that for storage
[08:40] <pucko-> such as a live-cd?
[08:41] <Nyad> kind of but its using a hardrive of mine and I want to be able to install things onto it, so like a liveCD but with a hardrive
[08:47] <romantic_user> ÐÒÉ×ÅÔ ×ÓÅÍ
[08:47] <adz21c> Nyad: u can get linux on a flash drive, only issue with that tho is some computing don't do booting from USB but its becoming less of a common issue these days
[08:48] <Jucato> !nickspam | romantic_user
[08:48] <ubotu> romantic_user: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #kubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair to new users.  (Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead.)  The same goes for using noisy away messages; use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also /msg ubotu Guidelines
[08:49] <Nyad> isnt there a way to put in a CD with a bootloader that will allow you to boot from USB harddrive?
[08:49] <adz21c> Nyad: infact at one point Mandriva were doing this CD and USB combo, when you launch the live CD with an appropriate flash drive it mounts the flash as /home
[08:49] <Nyad> so one would have to use mandriva?
[08:50] <adz21c> Nyad: well, being Mandriva that was a payed for product i believe, and i don't think it did USB HDs, just the USB key provided
[08:50] <adz21c> Nyad: but i can't see why what you wan't can't be done without fiddling
[08:52] <Stilo> !de
[08:52] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:53] <Nyad> If I put in my ubuntu live cd can I set it to boot from a boot partition on my external HD instead of MBR? that should work?
[08:55] <adz21c> Nyad: well what you could do is install ubuntu on ur external hdd, then you can write grub to floppies and CDs, so install grub referrencing your external hdd to the usb drive and stick it on a CD, although your externall hdd may get named differently from PC to PC no doubt, but, its an idea
[08:56] <adz21c> Nyad: then all you have to do it make sure the floppy/cd comes before hdd in boot order
[08:59] <Nyad> I have ubuntu installed on my external hdd. so I must Install a new grub onto my CD or floppy disk and it will automatically detect my external linux boot partition
[09:01] <adz21c> Nyad: dunno about automatically, i think grub works entirely from reading configs, which is why i am saying it might have an annoyance if your external hdd is referred with a different id/whatever grub uses on another computer, but i think you can edit that through grub on boot so it would be one of them minor annoyances
[09:01] <defrenne_> je ne sais que faire ici mais j'ai besoin d'aide qui peut m'expliquer?
[09:02] <adz21c> Nyad: but this is all guess work i never tried this, just chucking the ideas i would be having if i wanted to do this at you :-)
[09:02] <Nyad> ok thanks, I'll be careful
[09:03] <defrenne_> qui ecrit en francais sur ce canal?
[09:03] <adz21c> Nyad: mind you there is something for restoring your Grub on the live cd so maybe that would help for auto detection?
[09:04] <adz21c> Nyad: maybe it would let you go in, search for stuff grub can launch then pick your external hdd to boot from, dunno never used that function on the cd but i know its there :)
[09:06] <Nyad> hmm this could be useful to make grub re-autodetect all OS since I installed suse last night and cant figure out how to add it to grub/menu.lst
[09:06] <brutus> halo
[09:06] <Nyad> do you know where this feature is? or how I can use it?
[09:07] <adz21c> It's an option on the live cd, i think its on the menu ... i just know its there a friend has used it before now, and its not uncommon for people to need to restore grub after installing windows for dual boot
[09:09] <Nyad> ok I think I saw something on this so I'll look into it. but for the portable idea, would I put in the live cd and then when it asks with a menu it has  something like this.  boot: many args
[09:09] <Nyad> so maybe if I just figure out the right stuff to type there then it will boot from wherever
[09:11] <adz21c> Nyad: thats one way to do, what i was thinking is maybe if the autodetect pics up your externel hdd and lets you use grub without needing to put it in the MBR maybe you could use that instead of having to learn the arguments and figure out the values for each arg specific to each system
[09:15] <Nyad> but how would I make grub do an autodetect every time I move to a new system? is using a CD with grub on it or with the LiveCD?
[09:16] <cdpuk> Hello, anyone know how to copy kontact/kmail mail config to another PC?  I can't boot the installation right now - just got access to the disk
[09:17] <cdpuk> Copying .kde/share/apps/kmail stuff doesn't seem to work
[09:18] <adz21c> Nyad: the livecd, when u restore grub after a windows install for example I think it scans the available devices for OSes then builds up a grub to install into your MBR. If this provides a "preview" and a scans USB hdds you could go through the motions of restoring grub but just use the preview to launch your external hdds os instead of installing grub to the mbr ... like i said guess work, this is an assumption of how the grub restore process works :-)
[09:19] <adz21c> Nyad: even if the preview doesn't let you launch an OS it would atleast give you the boot options to use, if you see what i am getting at
[09:19] <Nyad> ok so it will just give me the info I need to get it to boot from the arcane device names etc
[09:20] <adz21c> Nyad: thats what I am thinking
[09:20] <adz21c> Nyad: assuming it gives you previews etc
[09:20] <Nyad> ok thanks :)
[09:20] <adz21c> Nyad: and is a reasonably quick process of course I never done it so i dunno how long it takes lol
[09:21] <Nyad> the first time will take a while but once I know what I'm doing it will be faster
[09:21] <adz21c> Nyad: well i was more talking about how fast a grub restore takes, i assume its pretty quick but i don't know :-) lol
[09:22] <Nyad> oh right :P
[09:42] <lopin> Can anyone help me with usplash?
[09:42] <lopin> I just want an image...  Just a simple image...
[09:42] <lopin> Nothing more...
[09:44] <ere4si> !usplash | lopin
[09:44] <ubotu> lopin: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[09:45] <lopin> I've seen this...  If I knew what I was doing enough to follow that how to, I'd do it...
[09:45] <lopin> Actually, that's the third time that I've seen that...
[09:46] <lopin> http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p10/KnuxadowPanda/big_hal_start.jpg
[09:46] <lopin> I just want that image for the background...
[09:51] <ere4si> hang on and I'll work you through it
[09:51] <stefan-f> can someone tell me where I can find the source from partimaged? I need something to download I was looking for that at google but can not find a source
[09:52] <stefan-f> can someone help?
[09:53] <lopin> Okay...
[09:53] <lopin> Partimaged?
[09:54] <lopin> GD SYSTEM BEEP TO HELL!!!
[09:55] <lopin> Okay...  Is there a d at the end of that?
[09:56] <lopin> stefan-f, there's a source tarball on the homepage...  Would you like a link?
[09:57] <ere4si> lopin: I've never done it before - it is not straight forward - there's a few steps...
[09:58] <lopin> I can tell...  I don't have any experience with C, and it's not just image here, copy, move recompile...
[09:58] <lopin> But thank you...  I'm just starting to get a bit discouraged with some theming things tonight...
[10:01] <lopin> stefan-f, http://www.partimage.org/Download  The file there is a tarball with the source in it.  That should help you a bit
[10:01] <Creationist> My motherboard is an older Intel desktop board and I need to figure out what the model number is.... how would I do this?
[10:01] <ere4si> lopin: try reading this - http://news.softpedia.com/news/Change-Ubuntu-Bootsplash-Theme-55237.shtml
[10:02] <plavcik> hi, which app is used for indexing in kubuntu 7.10 please?
[10:02] <plavcik> I mean searchin in ODT, PDF, HTML, emails..
[10:02] <lopin> ere4si, Thank you.
[10:06] <stefan-f> hmm, okay thanks, I thought that was the client but it seems its the server.
[10:06] <stefan-f> Thanks for help!!
[10:06] <yao_ziyuan> when kubuntu 8.04 goes official,
[10:06] <yao_ziyuan> will 7.10's package repository still be updating?
[10:07] <lopin> Okay...  Moving off of the very annoying, and frustrating topic of trying to change that damned usplash image, how about we change to a simpler problem?
[10:07] <lopin> I have a very tiny flash animation that I want to be able to use as a wallpaper.  Is there any way to do it?
[10:39] <arunkale> can i wget files from one server to another via ssh?
[10:40] <emilsedgh_> yes
[10:40] <jpatrick> arunkale: use rsync
[10:40] <arunkale> jpatrick: what's that?
[10:40] <emilsedgh_> oh, not wget, you could scp arunkale
[10:40] <jpatrick> arunkale: rsync -aPz you@host:/folder/place /somewhere/local
[10:43] <arunkale> i was thinking i could zip up/tar a folder and wget it to another server
[10:43] <jpatrick> arunkale: you could, but I really recommend rsync over all
[10:44] <arunkale> jpatrick: rsync is for getting the files onto my local computer?
[10:44] <arunkale> or do i enter that after i log in to the server via ssh
[10:44] <jpatrick> arunkale: you can do it directly from yours
[10:46] <arunkale> how do i create a tar.gz file via the command like?
[10:46] <arunkale> tar -cvvf?
[10:46] <arunkale> and then gunzip?
[10:47] <arunkale> never mind, got it
[10:47] <arunkale> :)
[10:48] <jpatrick> :)
[10:48] <pucko-> add z to tar and you don't have to bother with gunzip
[10:48] <arunkale> pucko: for example?
[10:49] <pucko-> tar zcvf filename.tar.gz <files to be packaged>
[10:49] <pucko-> or j if you want bz2
[10:50] <arunkale> i don't need to add a -r right?
[10:50] <arunkale> i have a folder in my current directory that i want to compress
[10:50] <arunkale> sorry
[10:51] <arunkale> so to untar it, i enter tar -zxcf?
[10:51] <arunkale> -zxvf *
[10:51] <pucko-> yes
[10:52] <pucko-> and you won't need -r
[10:54] <pucko-> arunkale, the filepath is preserved in the tar.gz archive though, so you might want to cd to the the dir above the one you want to compress and run tar zcvf file.tar.gz <dir to be compressed>/*
[10:54] <arunkale> yeah, that's what i did
[11:00] <doktoreas> hello everybody
[11:00] <doktoreas> is there a way for opening links in firefox new tab?
[11:01] <doktoreas> links from kmail, konversation, ecc..
[11:01] <doktoreas> I set firefox in configuration settings, but it always try to open a new session
[11:02] <emilsedgh_> doktoreas: you set firefox in System Settings->Default Applications?
[11:02] <arunkale> how do you wget a file into your current directory?
[11:03] <arunkale> wget <url> right?
[11:03] <emilsedgh_> right arunkale
[11:03] <doktoreas> emilsedgh_: yes. I noticed that it opens the link in a new tab, but alos try to open a new firefox
[11:03] <arunkale> i was trying to move a huge chunk of files using my slow connection, it was taking FOREVER
[11:03] <athena> doktoreas, go under edit preferences then select tabs and set it to open in new tab
[11:04] <emilsedgh_> doktoreas: give it a -new-tab option
[11:05] <emilsedgh_> from 'man firefox': -new-tab URL: Open URL in a new tab in an already running Firefox process.
[11:06] <arunkale> ok, lets say i have a folder structure like this: folder1 > folder2    -- what if i want to move all the files from folder 2 into folder 1, how do i do that?
[11:06] <emilsedgh_> mv dir1/* dir1/dir2
[11:07] <doktoreas> emilsedgh_: worked like a charm..thank you :)
[11:07] <emilsedgh_> im not sure if it works...
[11:07] <arunkale> emilsedgh: this is assuming i'm in which directory to begin with?
[11:07] <emilsedgh_> sorry?
[11:07] <arunkale> 1 sec
[11:09] <arunkale> excellent
[11:19] <Hamra> lol, thnx emilsedgh_, i was having the same problem with firefox :P
[11:36] <arunkale> how do you transfer files from your local computer to your server via ssh
[11:36] <emilsedgh> arunkale: scp
[11:37] <arunkale> emilsedgh: is there any place i could read a quick tutorial about that?
[11:37] <emilsedgh> arunkale: scp user@host:/home/foo/bar/file.extenstion user2:host2:/home/foo/bar
[11:37] <Jucato> you can also use fish:/ in Konqueror
[11:37] <makdaknife> arunkale: easiest method is to use konqueror... sftp://
[11:38] <ircop_> hola
[11:38] <arunkale> yeah i know i can use konqueror.. i was just wondering how to do it using the command line
[11:38]  * Jucato doesn't think sftp:/ or ftp:/ just works directly
[11:38] <emilsedgh> Jucato: ftp does
[11:38] <Jucato> emilsedgh: even if the target computer doesn't have ftpd?
[11:38] <makdaknife> hmmm I thought sftp had no problem... as long as the server supports
[11:39] <Jucato> well yeah, as long as the server supports it, which I think means you need to have an ftpd... not really sure though :P
[11:39] <emilsedgh> Jucato: certainly no, thats not possible, no ftp client could do that
[11:39] <makdaknife> Jucato: no... sftp is set up in your sshd
[11:39] <emilsedgh> connect to a ftp server which is not a ftp server :D
[11:40] <makdaknife> Jucato: you do not need an ftpd running to support it... I think by default in Kubuntu/Ubuntu sshd is set up to support sftp
[11:41]  * Jucato shrugs :)
[11:42] <makdaknife> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2006-April/005121.html
[11:43] <emilsedgh> deduce: Konqueror rocks
[11:44] <Jucato> makdaknife: ok
[11:46] <harmental> hey guys..has anyone been experiencing sudden freezes with Hardy?
[11:49] <Jucato> harmental: #ubuntu+1 please
[11:50] <mikemm> i got a IBM P4 1.4Ghz mobile (centrino) laptop (x31)
[11:50] <mikemm> what version of Kubu is recommendable for this 'older' laptop?
[11:52] <Jucato> how much RAM?
[11:52] <Jucato> btw, what do you mean by "what version"?
[11:55] <RogueJediX> mikemm: I have a 1.2 GHz CPU and have no problems running the latest Kubuntu
[11:55] <mikemm> RogueJediX: 8.04 beta?
[11:56] <Jucato> only if you're willing to put up with a bit of instability/probable changes
[11:56] <RogueJediX> mikemm: Latest stable. 7.10
[11:56] <Jucato> you can install 7.10 and upgrade in 2 weeks to 8.04
[11:56] <Jucato> around 2 weeks...
[11:56] <mikemm> i used kubu for like 2,5year on it without problems, from before dapper.. to dapper.. to edgy
[11:56] <mikemm> but then i was like.. hmmm this opensuse looks very promissing, lets give it a shot
[11:56] <mikemm> it went ok.. in the beginning.. but it became slower and slower - bit like windowz
[11:57] <mikemm> so i dont want that anymore, 7.10 is edgy right?
[11:57] <lumm_> gutsy
[11:58] <mikemm> OK
[11:58] <Jucato> edgy is 6.10
[12:04] <RogueJediX> Is it possible to install KMPlayer without it becoming the default media player (I already have Kaffeine and Amarok for that)?
[12:06] <emilsedgh> RogueJediX: sure
[12:06] <Jucato> you'll have to modify the File Associations
[12:06] <emilsedgh> RogueJediX: go to Konqueror->Settings->File Associations.you could set which file types use which applications
[12:07] <RogueJediX> emilsedgh, Jucato: Cool, thanks
[12:10] <sinniji> Hi
[12:17] <Pendeta> I'm getting SQUASHFS errors when trying to install Kubuntu. Is this a problem with my CD Drive or my HD?
[12:19] <SinNiji> "ashFS is used by the LiveCD versions of Finnix, Ubuntu, DD-WRT and probably many more Linux distributions." guess is your cd
[12:36] <cuzntx> i need to defrag?
[12:36] <Pendeta> SinNiji, thanks. I'll try a different cd.
[12:36] <cuzntx> !defrag
[12:36] <ubotu> The default Ubuntu filesystem (ext3) is engineered to avoid fragmentation issues in most cases, see http://linkpot.net/behead/ for a simple example on how it achieves this. A package "defrag" is available in !Universe, however its use is not safe, and is generally not needed.
[12:37] <cuzntx> w0w
[12:39] <Dr_willis> ive never needed to defrag a linux box yet.
[12:39] <Dr_willis> had to fsck a few times on some. :)
[12:40] <cuzntx> fsck?
[12:40] <Dr_willis> 'filw system check'
[12:40] <Dr_willis> man fsck :)
[12:40] <Hamra> fsck is like chkdsk or scandisk on windows
[12:40] <Dr_willis> only it works. :)
[12:41] <cuzntx> is that a command funtion
[12:41] <cuzntx> of a porgram
[12:41] <Dr_willis> it is a command.
[12:41] <Dr_willis> fsck           fsck.ext2      fsck.minix     fsck.nfs       fsck.vfat  fsck.cramfs    fsck.ext3      fsck.msdos     fsck.reiserfs
[12:43] <cuzntx> fsck.ext3 [-panyrcdfvstDFSV] [-b superblock] [-B blocksize]                [-I inode_buffer_blocks] [-P process_inode_size]                [-l|-L bad_blocks_file] [-C fd] [-j external_journal]                [-E extended-options] device
[12:47] <Dr_willis> there ya go. :)
[12:50]  * Hamra is going somewhere
[13:08] <cuznt> it says i can not fsck on amounted file system
[13:08] <Pici> Because you can;t.
[13:09] <Dr_willis> Yep.. correct.. You cant..
[13:09] <cuznt> i gathered that
[13:09] <Dr_willis> i tend to boot live cd and fsck from them.
[13:09] <Pici> sudo touch /forcefsck   will force it to fsck on the next reboot.
[13:09] <cuznt> i will try that pici thank you
[13:09] <Dr_willis> another good fix.. IF you need the disk fscked
[13:10] <Dr_willis> of course normally they get checked to see if they need checked anyway. :)
[13:10] <cuznt> i dont know if i do or not
[13:10] <Dr_willis> odds are you dont then. :)
[13:10] <cuznt> right on
[13:53] <gundam_rx78nt1> good morning.
[13:54] <gundam_rx78nt1> My motherboard battery is dying (RIP). I would like to have ntp automatically update the time about every hour.  How can I do this?
[13:55] <Pici> !time | gundam_rx78nt1 read this
[13:55] <ubotu> gundam_rx78nt1 read this: Information about using and setting your computer's clock on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime - See https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/server/C/NTP.html for information on usage of the Network Time Protocol (NTP)
[14:03] <Dragonath> does anyone else have problems with kopete and MSN?
[14:04] <Dragonath> argh nvm it connected now
[14:04] <gundam_rx78nt1> Pici, thanks for the assist.
[14:06] <JuJuBee> Is there a way to make it so if someone drops a file into a folder (drop box), the ownership of the file changes to who owns the folder?
[14:10] <blindfish> JuJuBee: i don't think this is possible "out of the box", but would be easy with a little perl-script / Cron-job
[14:10] <JuJuBee> I was thinking of a cron that runs every 30 min or 60 min to change perms, but was hoping to avoid it if possible.
[14:11] <llutz> JuJuBee: why don't you use group-permissions?
[14:19] <JuJuBee> llutz : I use the group do define who can drop in and set everybody to --- while I am owner.
[14:20] <llutz> JuJuBee: and why do you want to change ownership?
[14:20] <JuJuBee> When a student drops a file in, he/she is the owner and the group and world are ---
[14:24] <JuJuBee> When I mount the drop box remotely, I want to be able to copy the files to my HD so I can grade them.
[14:27] <shadowbox> can someone help me with my sound? its driving me nuts
[14:27] <llutz> JuJuBee: set sgid to directory and files will have group-ownership of directory
[14:27] <llutz> JuJuBee: then you can (if your are member of that group) work with them
[14:27] <shadowbox> I loadest the newest drivers and did everything the ubuntu help pages said and I get notrhing
[14:28] <shadowbox> sorry, I got a new bluetooth keyboard and I'm still getting used to the layout
[14:34] <shadowbox> hello?
[14:48] <dc2447> Upgraded to 8.04 but kdm doesn't give me an option to ,.ogin to kde4?
[14:48] <^u^> kde4 isn't in 8.04
[14:49] <dc2447> The beta of Kubuntu 8.04 is available for testers.  The supported version comes with the rock solid KDE 3 while a remix features the cutting edge KDE 4
[14:49] <dc2447> so wtf
[14:50] <^u^> did you get the remix version?
[14:50] <JuJuBee> llutz : go the sgid working, but when a student drops in a file, perms are rwx------
[14:51] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[14:55] <makdaknife> hi
[14:55] <JuJuBee> Does sgid and suid set the gid and uid of the file to that of the user dropping it in?
[14:56] <JuJuBee> or to that of the Drop_Box?
[14:56] <dc2447> ^u^: what remix version - I did an upgrade over the internet
[14:57] <^u^> dc2447: from what you typed there is a remix version - unsupported 'cause kde4 is still beta
[14:59] <dc2447> ^u^: meh - that bisn't clear - so kde4 is in the repos though - right?
[14:59] <^u^> !kde4
[14:59] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[14:59] <^u^> dc2447:
[15:00] <dc2447> well it's in the repos
[15:06] <llutz> JuJuBee: when a user drops a file into a directory with sgid, the file should get group-ownership of the directory
[15:07] <JuJuBee> OK, that did seem to happen, however the group perms are ---
[15:07] <JuJuBee> So, it does me not good unless the group gets at least read.
[15:07] <llutz> JuJuBee: set umask or file-creation mask
[15:08] <JuJuBee> how do I do that?
[15:08] <JuJuBee> can I do it just for that directory?
[15:17] <JuJuBee> llutz : thanks for the tip, I found it and it works.
[15:28] <Troofy> how open large compressed file? i made a backup by g4l ghost 4 linux. it uses partimage. i think it was bzip2 2.4gb. Ark gives error while opening those files. any ways to copy a file from the archive?
[15:30] <adz21c> Troofy: checkout 'man bunzip2'
[15:31] <Troofy> adz21c no use
[15:33] <yass> salut
[15:39] <Troofy> how open large compressed file? i made a backup by g4l ghost 4 linux. it uses partimage. i think it was bzip2 2.4gb. Ark gives error while opening those files. any ways to copy a file from the archive?
[15:45] <neorej_> how do i extract an audio file from a movie file? it has to be good quality!
[15:45] <adz21c> neorej_: u want the audio stream of a movie file?
[15:45] <neorej_> y
[15:46] <neorej_> i have a movie file... (a capture of a rehearsal) and i want the sound from it in an mp3 file :)
[15:47] <adz21c> well, i dunno the full stuff but this is something i used to pull the ac3 audio from a dvd vob, u will just need to tailor it to your fileformats and rencode the output
[15:47] <adz21c> tcextract -i $main_vob -x ac3 -a $audio_channel | tcextract -x ac3 -t raw > $audio_file
[15:48] <neorej_> ic :)
[15:48] <neorej_> thanks
[15:50] <mogsor> How do I enable the ability to login interactively as root?
[15:51] <stdin> why would you want that?
[15:51] <mogsor> testing on a dev server temporarily
[15:53] <stdin> you have to edit /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc
[15:53] <stdin> specifically the AllowRootLogin option, and you have to make sure root has a password set
[15:54] <mogsor> Ah ok cool. Thanks
[15:54] <stdin> but it's not recommended to login graphically as root, so be extra careful
[15:57] <LjL> Czessi: ping
[15:59] <Czessi> LjL: pong
[15:59] <LjL> Czessi, your client was misbehaving and excess flooding a lot, what client are you on?
[16:00] <nyko> genii: hey how are you today ^^
[16:01] <Czessi> LjL: konversation but i don't know what's the matter.
[16:01] <LjL> Czessi: i think i do
[16:02] <LjL> Czessi: you're in many channels. Konversation, by default, gathers /who(is) information about all the people in your channels. it tries to be smart and not do it for large channels, but it goes nuts when you're in several small channels
[16:02] <genii> nyko: Wet from rain and still fighting flu but otherwise all right :)
[16:02] <LjL> Czessi: i suggest Settings / Configure Konversation / Chat Window / Enable Automatic User Information Look Up <-- disable this completely, or at least make the update interval much much longer
[16:03] <Czessi> LjL: thanks, done
[16:04] <nyko> genii: that bad umm yet me i fighting to find why my logout bug my linux and after that all work well i buy a usb/ps/2
[16:04] <nyko> genii: and my mouse work well
[16:05] <genii> nyko: So no more mouse problems today? ;)
[16:06] <nyko> genii: no :P
[16:09] <LjL> Czessi: you'll probably find your client also has much less lag after disabling that (look at the bottom right corner - when you have that enabled, it'll probably indicate several dozens seconds)
[16:11] <nyko> genii: hey i wondering if you know a way to have lcd logitech g15 keyboard work in linux somewhere
[16:12] <genii> nyko: Not offhand.
[16:12] <nyko> genii: i see
[16:12] <Czessi> LjL: yes, so is it
[16:13] <genii> nyko: I could search google etc but this is likely what you would be needing to do anyways
[16:13] <LjL> Czessi: make sure when you logout from kde you close konversation first, as it sometimes forgets to save its settings if you just close the session
[16:15] <Czessi> LjL: i do this every time because i don't will that koversation starts, when i login into kde
[16:16] <genii> nyko: If you feel brave you can try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LogitechG15       but since on kubuntu and not ubuntu replace where they put "gksudo gedit" with "kdesu kate"
[16:16] <LjL> Czessi: well you can make it stop doing that. System Settings / Advanced / Session Settings / On Login / (select) Restore manually saved session.   this will affect every other application, too, although if you only want *konversation* to not be restored, you can put it in the "excluded from session" list
[16:21] <Czessi> LjL: thanks for this information. i put konersation in the excluded list
[16:23] <makeSHIFT_pliski> i need quick help to fix my wireless
[16:23] <makeSHIFT_pliski> it used to work, and now it doesn't. but lshw -C network shows the adapters correctly
[16:24] <makeSHIFT_pliski> and i can't figure out why i can't connect to my router. (via knetwork its all well configured)
[16:24] <trappist> can you be more specific than doesn't work?
[16:24] <trappist> does it have an ip address?
[16:25] <makeSHIFT_pliski> no, i can't detect the signal at all
[16:25] <trappist> have you tried kwifimanager?
[16:25] <makeSHIFT_pliski> but i don't know if its something badly configured or if its knetworkmanager
[16:26] <makeSHIFT_pliski> iwconfig shows my wireless card correctly
[16:26] <trappist> can you see your AP?
[16:26] <makeSHIFT_pliski> AP ?
[16:27] <trappist> access point
[16:27] <makeSHIFT_pliski> no i can't
[16:27] <makeSHIFT_pliski> access point: invalid
[16:28] <makeSHIFT_pliski> i have ndiswrapper installed and working. the card is installed. its something else kinda. i'll try kwifimanager.
[16:28] <trappist> do you know the mac address of your ap?
[16:29] <trappist> or, try iwlist <interface> scan
[16:33] <makeSHIFT_pliski> i am wired conencted, downloaded kwifi, but can't connect to any websites via firefox
[16:35] <LjL> Czessi, you may want to check if my theory on what's happening is true, and confirm http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160370
[16:35] <trappist> makeSHIFT_pliski: can you ping google?
[16:35] <trappist> makeSHIFT_pliski: do you use a proxy?
[16:36] <makeSHIFT_pliski> no i dont use a proxy
[16:38] <venik> My Kubuntu 7.10 ignores my external USB hard drive.  WHat can I do?
[16:38] <makeSHIFT_pliski> i can ping it
[16:38] <trappist> what error does firefox give you
[16:39] <makeSHIFT_pliski> nothing, it just doesn't load like "looking up google.com..."
[16:39] <trappist> makeSHIFT_pliski: do you happen to be running firefox in a chroot?
[16:40] <amerigo> where I can find list of mibile supported in kubuntu?
[16:40] <amerigo> mobile.... sorry
[16:40] <makeSHIFT_pliski> firefox works now ! cool. fianlly. but i am wired
[16:40] <BluesKaj> !HandBrake
[16:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about handbrake - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:41] <makeSHIFT_pliski> installing kwifimanager now.
[16:42] <amerigo> !PDA
[16:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pda - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:42] <amerigo> !pda
[16:42] <peterG5> I just changed the my display preferences by enabling a second monitor in the Monitor & Display menu. I set screen 1 to be left of screen 2. I restarted xserver and it will no longer load anything graphical. What should I look at to fix this? I am not that knowledgeable with xserver.
[16:42] <venik> any idea why my USB drive is ignored by Kubuntu 7.10?
[16:43] <amerigo> ls
[16:43] <amerigo> !list
[16:43] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[16:43] <amerigo> list
[16:43] <amerigo> #list
[16:43] <amerigo> bo??
[16:44] <amerigo> I had to use my phone to connect in inteernet my computer with Kubuntu.... Nobody has a tip?
[16:45] <venik> !<USB hard drive>
[16:46] <venik> ! USB
[16:46] <ubotu> For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[16:52] <Goldensun> salut
[16:52] <Goldensun> petit probléme
[16:52] <stdin> !fr
[16:52] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[16:52] <Goldensun> sorry
[16:54] <peterG5> I just changed the my display preferences by enabling a second monitor in the Monitor & Display menu. I set screen 1 to be left of screen 2. I restarted xserver and it will no longer load anything graphical. What should I look at to fix this? I am not that knowledgeable with xserver.
[16:55] <stdin> it should have saved a backup in /etc/X11/, you can try restoring that
[16:55] <LjL> Czessi, the bug for konversation had already been filed on lp at https://bugs.launchpad.net/konversation/+bug/67200 and is marked as "fix released"... i think the only way they could fix it without involving upstream would be to change the defaults (i.e. disable the lookup feature by default). yet you had it enabled, so is yours a fresh installation of gutsy, or did you move over your home and ~/.kde from another version?
[16:59] <Czessi> LjL: its an old .kde folder from another version. i'll take a look if i flood again and when not, i confirm this bug at bugs.kde.org
[16:59] <LjL> Czessi: ah then maybe they've really "fixed" it (i.e. changed the defaults) in ubuntu
[17:00] <LjL> would help if who fixed it made a mention of it in the bug report :)
[17:03] <DexterF> hi
[17:03] <Eli_> I have kubuntu installed on my USB HDD, and Winxp installed on my internal hd of my laptop, the kubuntu installed and worked from the usb, but now it doesnt, it writes "error loading operating system", how can i fix that? (grub related?!)
[17:03] <DexterF> after upgrade to 7.10 timidity doesn't work anymore and kaffeine won't use "alsa" by default. is this a known issue?
[17:04] <WarrenDum> hi
[17:05] <WarrenDum> i have the gutsy cd and ubuntu gutsy (gnome)
[17:05] <WarrenDum> how can i use the kubuntu cd to install kubuntu-desktop?
[17:06] <stdin> WarrenDum: you can only do that from the alternate cd
[17:06] <WarrenDum> ok, so it isn't possible? damn' :(
[17:07] <stdin> no with the normal desktop cd, no
[17:07] <WarrenDum> can you explain why?
[17:07] <Czessi> LjL: on my fresh hardy installation the /who option is enabled
[17:08] <stdin> WarrenDum: because the desktop version doesn't have all the .debs on it in a way apt can read
[17:08] <WarrenDum> ok
[17:08] <peterG5> thankyou stdin...worked a charm
[17:08] <WarrenDum> maybe off-topic, but how do the installer install it then?
[17:08] <LjL> Czessi: uh, try joining all the channels you're in while keeping it enabled
[17:08] <LjL> Czessi: if it still lags you / floods you off, we reopen the bug
[17:09] <stdin> WarrenDum: it uses a funky compressed filesystem and copies it over to the real system
[17:09] <WarrenDum> it copies the live image?
[17:10] <Czessi> LjL: i'll test it tomorrow
[17:10] <stdin> not exactly, but the point is that apt can't read it from the CD
[17:10] <ekin> hi anybody can help? amarok dont play mp3
[17:10] <LjL> !mp3
[17:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[17:10] <WarrenDum> ekin : install kubuntu-restricted-extras if you have a good bandwith
[17:11] <ekin> i already installed it WarrenDum
[17:11] <WarrenDum> so it should work
[17:11] <LjL> have you restarted amarok after installing it?
[17:11] <ekin> nope when i launch it say mp3 not supported and tires to dl files than it says ok restart it
[17:11] <ekin> yep
[17:12] <WarrenDum> completely?
[17:12] <WarrenDum> i mean exit the taskbar icon too
[17:12] <ekin> yep completely rebooted the system
[17:12] <WarrenDum> ok
[17:12] <ekin> i can play with juk
[17:12] <WarrenDum> is libxine1-plugins installed?
[17:12] <ekin> let me check
[17:12] <WarrenDum> otherwise, is amarok up-to-date?
[17:13] <ekin> it is 1.4.7 comes with kubuntu 7.10
[17:13] <WarrenDum> hm
[17:13] <WarrenDum> is the package installed btw?
[17:13] <ekin> cant find it in adept manager
[17:14] <WarrenDum> ow
[17:14] <ekin> there is only 3 files begin with libxine1
[17:14] <WarrenDum> do you have all repositories installed? (did you have access to internet druing install?)
[17:14] <venik> how do I make ALSA play ogg files?
[17:14] <ekin> yep i have access to the internet
[17:15] <venik> it makes a weird sound instead of the sound that it is supposed to play
[17:15] <ekin> also amarok can connect to servers
[17:15] <venik> wav files are fine
[17:15] <WarrenDum> but if libxine1-plugins isn't installed it can't work
[17:15] <WarrenDum> which repositories do you have enabled?
[17:15] <ekin> i reinstall the amarok but nothing changed it asks everytime i launch
[17:15] <ekin> hmmm wait a serc
[17:15] <ekin> sec
[17:16] <WarrenDum> np
[17:16] <ekin> http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu
[17:16] <WarrenDum> no
[17:16] <WarrenDum> ther's multiverse, restricted
[17:17] <WarrenDum> which are enabled?
[17:17] <anabelle> how can i make pidgin open links in firefox?
[17:17] <WarrenDum> main, universe, multiverse, restricted
[17:17] <ekin> yes restricted one is checked
[17:17] <WarrenDum> activate them (the 4)
[17:17] <ekin> i mean multiverse
[17:17] <WarrenDum> activate them all
[17:17] <ekin> ok
[17:17] <WarrenDum> reload your list
[17:18] <WarrenDum> and reinstall kubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:18] <ekin> ok Warrendum i will do it thanx for your help
[17:18] <WarrenDum> and then if it still doesn't work, look for libxine1-plugins and install it if it is available
[17:18] <WarrenDum> ekin: no problem :)
[17:18] <ekin> ok thanks a lot
[17:18] <ekin> :9
[17:18] <WarrenDum> give some feedback too ;)
[17:18] <ekin> i will ;)
[17:19] <WarrenDum> good luck :P
[17:21] <ekin> WarrenDumX :) it worked thanks a lot again :)
[17:21] <ekin> huh :)
[17:22] <LjL> Czessi: marked as fixed (murphy's law :), http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160370 - i had indeed read the SVN commits of yesterday, but it wasn't immediately clear how the sendqueue would affect this
[17:22] <WarrenDumX> ekin: no problem, glad tou have helped, good luck for the future ^^
[17:22] <ekin> :)
[17:22] <WarrenDumX> now i leave, will test hardy, bye everybody!
[17:22] <WarrenDumX> bye ekin!
[17:22] <ekin> bye
[17:22] <ekin> bye all
[17:26] <nyko> genii: ok thanks
[17:29] <reese> hi! what is alsa-quirk?
[17:31] <reese> anyway, i have to edit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base and insert a line such as:
[17:31] <reese> options snd-hda-intel model=MODEL
[17:32] <reese> but I don't know what exactly to write in that string.. it is still snd-hda-intel?
[17:33] <amerigo> ! PDA
[17:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pda - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:34] <amerigo> ! pda
[17:35] <Azzco> Anyone know if wengophone (2) has support for OSS?
[17:35] <genii> amerigo: For the bot PDA and pda are the same thing, it puts everything to lowercase anyhow
[17:35] <Azzco> And the bot has been a bit ill lately, right?
[17:36] <genii> Azzco: As far as I know the !info feature is busted
[17:38] <Troofy> iam tring to install inspircd that requires g++ and having this error. (i dont have the ubuntu install cd atm) http://pastebin.com/m37936ed6 any help?
[17:40] <pteague> open up /etc/apt/sources.list as root & temporarily comment out the line for the cd, run `apt-get update` or `aptitude update` & try it again
[17:42] <genii> Troofy: Since you're in both #kubuntu and #ubuntu you should ask in the channel which fits the window manager you are in at the moment.
[17:42] <venik> How do I get fancy screen savers?  In my Configure Desktop there is only Blank and Random
[17:42] <genii> (and not both channels at once)
[17:42] <Troofy> genii ok . i got the answer
[17:43] <venik> !<screen savers>
[17:44] <venik> !<screen>
[17:45] <Troofy> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[17:45] <Troofy> u
[17:45] <ibou> hi. How to open a *.cue file? Is it possible to mount it as an *.iso ?
[17:45] <Troofy> genii ^
[17:45] <venik> !screen saver
[17:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screen saver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:45] <venik> !screen
[17:45] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[17:46] <venik> !UUID
[17:46] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[17:46] <nyko> genii:  you there ?
[17:47] <ibou> hi. How to open a *.cue file? Is it possible to mount it as an *.iso ?
[17:47] <genii> nyko: Yes, I am around when work allows
[17:48] <nyko> genii: ok how to install the 2 g15 tips :p
[17:48] <nyko> genii: he not have any ./configure
[17:49] <genii> Troofy: when you get that message it's usually because you have more than 1 program running which is using the update/upgrade subsystem. Make sure only the one you are trying to use is open.
[17:49] <nyko> genii: i think make only should work ?
[17:49] <Troofy> genii i know but how do i solve it
[17:49] <Piero_Scaruffi> lol
[17:50] <genii> nyko: Normally source code comes with a file README or something similar, recommend to look at this if it exists.
[17:50] <genii> Troofy: To solve it close anything open which has Adept/Synaptic/apt running :)
[17:50] <nyko> genii: ok
[17:50] <Troofy> genii i dont have any thing opend like that
[17:50] <Troofy>  i see 'apache2' as a proces in ksysgaurd. anything wrong?
[17:51] <nyko> genii: libg15daemon_client not found. please install it ummm ?
[17:51] <genii> nyko: Since I don't have a g15 and have not attempted installing one, I will be of little assistance
[17:51] <genii> Troofy: Likely your update manager is running, if in kubuntu check bottom right corner for it
[17:52] <nyko> genii: ok lol i will try alone then :)
[17:52] <Troofy> genii ic. thx.  in linux can i make my pc a server for ircd + webserver + email server + some others. + desktop use too and keep it stable and up for months?
[17:54] <genii> Troofy: If you plan to have some dedicated server, don't also use it for a regular desktop machine with kde or gnome on it. Instead install the ubuntu-server cd on another box and then use something like ssh into it to control it
[17:58] <Troofy> genii sounds good. but what advantage is there of doing it and what disadvantage put  a faster dualcore to do all jobs?
[17:58] <Troofy> i have a p4 1.8g 1g ram atm. if i have to buy a p3 1g as a server. why not upgrade my p4 to dualcore and use one pc for all???
[17:59] <nyko> genii:
[17:59] <nyko> genii:  i got the problem i hae download libg15daemond and ./configure make sudo make install and my problem its now repair ^^
[18:00] <ZurnaNet41> Hi guys , could you please check this webpage out, and give me your feedback www.eismanicaclara.com
[18:01] <genii> nyko: You did: ./configure    then: make   then: sudo make install                        and then it said something about needing repairs??
[18:02] <nyko> genii: no when i have run g15 compiler i got error error said libg15daemond not install plz install it so i have download install and now is good all work properly
[18:04] <genii> nyko: Ah, OK. So the keyboard works like it is supposed to?
[18:04] <nyko> genii: yes :P
[18:04] <genii> Good :)
[18:04] <nyko> genii: i not finish to configure it but now all good i see the clock in my lcd sceen lol
[18:07] <nyko> genii: systax error in the sudoer file ?
[18:08] <nyko> genii: NVM I REPAIR MY PROBLEM
[18:09] <nyko> oups sorry cap
[18:10] <nyko> genii:  System -> Preferences -> Sessions where is that in kde ?
[18:13] <genii> nyko: System Settings ...Advanced Tab ... Session Manager
[18:17] <fat-head> hello, i am trying to run my games in a seperate x server. not just linux native games but wine games mostly, i am using this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51486. the problem is when i type xauth then list in terminal i get 1 line of output and then instead of the blinker going back to xauth> it stays |  and i cant type exit either ?? anyone knwo what the problem is ?
[18:17] <Minnozz> Hi, I have a problem. My network connection (internet and LAN) becomes extremely laggy at random times, and I'm sure it's a problem with my PC. Anyone any idea why?
[18:17] <dek> how do I make the Vim editor remember settings?, such as when I input ":syntax on" i want it to remember it for the next time I start it.
[18:17] <Minnozz> The only solution I currently know is a reboot
[18:21] <^u^> dek: there is a vimrc in /etc/vim that might help
[18:22] <dek> ^u^: so I dont have to create my own file in /home ?¡
[18:22] <coreymon77> Minnozz: wired lan or wireless?
[18:23] <Minnozz> coreymon77: wired
[18:23] <^u^> dek: you can if you want - I am not sure if that will override vimrc from /etc/vim - never tried
[18:23] <^u^> worth a shot :)
[18:23] <coreymon77> Minnozz: and it slows down bif time randomly
[18:23] <coreymon77> big*
[18:25] <Minnozz> coreymon77: correct, and it happens in a single moment
[18:25] <Minnozz> coreymon77: for instance, the ping to my switch:  1  10.0.0.200 (10.0.0.200)  1329.580 ms  1329.592 ms  1329.587 ms
[18:26] <AndreSTC> is there a way to run ie 7 in linux? From a pen drive maybe?
[18:26] <nyko> genii: i got a problem whit logout turn off when i do someing whit that he just close all turn black and my arrow freeze :s
[18:26] <coreymon77> sorry about that Minnozz
[18:27] <coreymon77> AndreSTC: and why would you want that exactly?
[18:27] <Minnozz> coreymon77: did you read my reply or shall I repeat it? :)
[18:27] <AndreSTC> [coreymon77]: my home broker only run in ie 7... i would like to be able to acces it on my notebook(kubuntu)
[18:28] <coreymon77> Minnozz: if you dont mind repeating
[18:28] <Minnozz> [quote] coreymon77: correct, and it happens in a single moment
[18:28] <Azzco> Does anyone know a voip program that supports OSS?
[18:28] <Minnozz> coreymon77: for instance, the ping to my switch:  1  10.0.0.200 (10.0.0.200)  1329.580 ms  1329.592 ms  1329.587 ms[/quote]
[18:28] <coreymon77> AndreSTC: and you sure the user agent switcher addon for firefox wouldnt do the trick?
[18:29] <coreymon77> Minnozz: okay
[18:29] <coreymon77> Minnozz: you sure its your computer and not the connection itself?
[18:29] <genii> nyko: Does it still shut off by itself after a minute or 2 ?
[18:29] <nyko> genii: no stay black
[18:29] <Minnozz> coreymon77: I have an SSH connection open to my homeserver, and that box has no problems at all
[18:29] <nyko> genii: i not go to 2 min tough lollll
[18:30] <genii> nyko: Perhaps to try the kernel option of:      acpi=force
[18:30] <Minnozz> coreymon77: (but the connection from my pc to the server does)
[18:30] <AndreSTC> [coreymon77]: didnt try that yet... ill give it a try. i thought i would need to have ie 7 in order to the plugin to work
[18:30] <Troofy> genii can a hardare failure occure if any one attacks pc by internet. e.g ddos?
[18:30] <nyko> genii: what it does?
[18:31] <genii> nyko: Forces the computer to use power features
[18:31] <coreymon77> AndreSTC: what plugin
[18:31] <AndreSTC> [coreymon77]: agent switcher
[18:31] <nyko> genii:  ok
[18:31] <coreymon77> Minnozz: im really not sure
[18:31] <coreymon77> AndreSTC: what plugin do you need to work?
[18:32] <genii> Troofy: Since ddos attacks or similar pute heavier strain on things like disk accesss, it's conceivable.
[18:32] <Troofy> k
[18:34] <coreymon77> *sigh* still no kde4 konversation
[18:35] <genii> Minnozz: If you're using some torrent client perhaps check to see if you're still seeding a bunch of torrents. This causes a slowdown which seems to just creep slowly up and up. If you are having slow ping to your router, it may be a route issue.
[18:36] <genii> Other things which cause creeping slowdown is memory leaks (notoriously in firefox).
[18:37] <nyko> genii: and last one do you know how to repair nsplugingviewer error ?
[18:37] <Minnozz> genii: I am not using a torrent client, and traceroute shows a single hop
[18:37] <Minnozz> (to my server)
[18:38] <Minnozz> genii: I don't have a FF session open at the moment
[18:41] <genii> nyko: No, you asked yesterday about the nspluginviewer, I could offer no help with it then either  :)
[18:44] <BobSapp> hey there
[18:44] <genii> Minnozz: When the slowdown happens, what does top show as the most resource-hogging thing which is running?
[18:44] <BobSapp> I just got SIGSEGV in kcrash when i try to login to my only account
[18:45] <BobSapp> does kdecore.so.4 mean kde4 has been installed?
[18:45] <nyko> genii:
[18:45] <nyko> ok thanks :P
[18:46] <Minnozz> genii: Amarok has the highest processor load, but i'll paste the full output
[18:46] <BobSapp> the crash occurs in KSaveFile::KSaveFile() if that helps
[18:47] <Minnozz> genii: http://pastebin.com/m7d9c6722
[18:48] <Minnozz> genii: (My pc is currently in 'slow' state)
[18:49] <BobSapp> ok im just gonna reinstall anyway
[18:49] <BobSapp> no point asking for help on 8.04
[18:49] <mhollisjr> other than Autostart, is there any place that KDE launches applications from?
[18:49] <Minnozz> genii: Any other things I can check, maybe?
[18:50] <JoshOvki> BobSapp: for all 8.04 questions try   #ubuntu+1
[18:50] <BobSapp> kthanks
[18:50] <genii> Minnozz: You said you don't have ff running but firefox-bin is the second-most resource hog.
[18:50] <genii> (on that paste)
[18:51] <Minnozz> genii: Yeah, I just fired it up to be able to paste :P
[18:51] <genii> Ah, OK
[18:52] <genii> Minnozz: Is Amarok streaming in what it's playing from somewhere? That may explain some congestion as well
[18:52] <Minnozz> genii: No, just playing from the harddisk, it only submits tracks to Last.fm every x minutes
[18:53] <pteague> anybody have any opinions on strigidaemon vs trackerd vs beagle?
[18:53] <Minnozz> genii: But when this happened before, I tried shutting down Amarok and it didn't make any difference
[18:53] <genii> Minnozz: OK
[18:53] <coreymon77> pteague: never heard of any of them
[18:53] <coreymon77> pteague: except that a beagle is a dog
[18:53] <coreymon77> :P
[18:55] <BobSapp> 1/topic
[18:55] <pteague> coreymon77> well, you should know what's running on your computer...  kubuntu uses strigidaemon by default & i think ubuntu uses trackerd by default... they're basically desktop searching engines that parse through all your files
[18:56] <JoshOvki> Minnozz: Shut down amorak then press   Ctrl + Esc and make sure it is acctualy terminated
[18:56] <coreymon77> oh ya, those
[18:56] <Minnozz> JoshOvki: Okay, bye music :(
[18:56] <pteague> anybody know how to keep strigi killed? i killed the process yesterday, but had to restart x & it's started up again
[18:56] <mot>  13:56:50 up 13 days, 22:01,  0 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.26, 0.25
[18:57] <JoshOvki> Minnozz: it will only be for a little while, or you can run  xmms (pretty good)
[18:57] <mot> Linux user-b1e7de.user.msu.edu 2.6.18-6-686 #1 SMP Sun Feb 10 22:11:31 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[18:57] <JoshOvki> sorry if my typing goes a bit messed up, ive only just woke up
[18:58] <Minnozz> JoshOvki: Done (it was really shut down)
[18:58] <JoshOvki> Minnozz: and it was acctualy exiting?
[18:59] <Minnozz> JoshOvki: Yes, it disappeared from the list
[18:59] <JoshOvki> hmmm ok
[19:00] <Minnozz> Hey, I just noticed something
[19:00] <JoshOvki> ?
[19:00] <Minnozz> My server screen is right next to me, and I attached my screen session there
[19:01] <Minnozz> what I type shows up directly there (lagless), but with lag on my own (pc) screen
[19:01] <SpeS> hi, anyone knows how to configure a audio card Maudio Delta66 in Kubuntu=?
[19:01] <SpeS> ??
[19:01] <Pici> Czessi: excess flooding again
[19:01] <JoshOvki> Minnozz: that tooks promizing, can you quit that
[19:02] <JoshOvki> if you pc is constantly upload it will cause problems
[19:03] <bentob0x> how secure is Konqueror in terms of mixing filesystems?
[19:03] <bentob0x> like ftp/ntfs/http/etc
[19:03] <Minnozz> JoshOvki: I'm now physically behind my server, the screen session is detached on my pc
[19:04] <JoshOvki> Minnozz: 1 screen, 2 pcs?
[19:04] <Minnozz> JoshOvki: Yes, irssi runs in a screen on my server and I ssh to it and attach from my PC
[19:05] <coreymon77> that would do it
[19:05] <coreymon77> ntfs=bad
[19:05] <JoshOvki> Minnozz: i know the feeling, how is everything generaly running now?
[19:05] <coreymon77> its annoying on everything other than doze
[19:05] <rabindra> hey can anyone help me with installing linux drivers
[19:05] <coreymon77> rabindra: for...?
[19:06] <Minnozz> JoshOvki: Ping / internet with FF is still equally slow :(
[19:06] <JoshOvki> coreymon77: i swapped all my windblows stuff to fat32
[19:06] <SpeS> hi, where is alsaconf in Kubuntu?
[19:06] <SpeS> I can't find it!!
[19:06] <JoshOvki> hmmm
[19:06] <coreymon77> so you are running irssi through ssh on another computer? wouldnt that maybe cause the slowdown?
[19:06] <coreymon77> rabindra: what drivers?
[19:07] <genii> Minnozz: When you ping your default gateway is it slow also? Or just for machines on the internet (past the gateway)
[19:07]  * JoshOvki hands Minnozz back to genii while i go get food
[19:07] <nicolasd71> ?
[19:07] <DexterF> can someoen confirm: kaffeine in gutsy deosn't properly adjust to aspect ratio in DVB?
[19:07] <Minnozz> coreymon77: I have used this for ~2 years, and the slowdowns occur only once every 2 weeks or so...
[19:07] <rabindra> i have just installed gutsy gibbon and need to install drivers for nvidia chipset
[19:08] <coreymon77> Minnozz: it was just a suggestion
[19:08] <Minnozz> genii: Everything I ping is slow, from my switch (first step) to $randomServer (google.com or so)
[19:08] <coreymon77> !nvidia | rabindra
[19:08] <ubotu> rabindra: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[19:08] <rabindra> i have the cd, my  motherboard is ASUS M2NPV-VM and NVIDIA GeForce
[19:08] <Minnozz> coreymon77: Yeah, thanks :) I'm only explaining why I think that can't be the problem
[19:09] <Minnozz> iftop shows almost no traffic, too...
[19:09] <Minnozz> maybe 2KB/s average
[19:11] <rabindra> i already have some proprietry driver running, i enabled it as soon as i installed kubuntu and that took care of the resolution but the refresh rate is still bad
[19:11] <Minnozz> I don't know how network connections work low-level; But maybe there is some kind of buffer that's overloaded?
[19:12] <coreymon77> rabindra: the driver from the cd that came with your computer will be of no use to you, those are for windows only
[19:12] <c0rle0n3> please I really need help of you guys, I had to install php5.2.5 instead of the package of kubuntu
[19:12] <c0rle0n3> now I need to config php with gd and jpeg support
[19:12] <coreymon77> Minnozz: sorry, im much better with wireless
[19:12] <c0rle0n3> but this is my problem
[19:13] <c0rle0n3> for something I don't know, gd is not working
[19:13] <c0rle0n3> maybe I'm using wrong patch
[19:13] <c0rle0n3> ./configure --enable-force-cgi-redirect --with-pgsql --with-mysql --with-pdo-mysql --with-pdo-pgsql --without-pdo-sqlite --with-zlib --with-sqlite --with-zlib --with-gd --with-ttf --with-gettext --with-freetype-dir=/usr/include/freetype2 --with-png-dir=/usr/include/libpng12 --with-jpeg-dir=/usr/include --enable-mbstring
[19:13] <rabindra> i know but what to do? the cd can run in windows only but it has a folder containing linux drivers also
[19:14] <Minnozz> coreymon77: Okay, thanks anyway :)
[19:14] <kkathman> c0rle0n3: why not just install xampp - installs in 2 minutes and is a full php/mysql/phpmyadmin and the whole thing?
[19:14] <c0rle0n3> it's install php5.2.5?
[19:14] <kkathman> php 5 yes
[19:15] <c0rle0n3> I must 5.2.5
[19:15] <kkathman> why?
[19:15] <kkathman> you shouldnt be programming to a specific minor release anyway
[19:15] <c0rle0n3> 5.2.1 has a bug, I don't know if it is in apache or kubuntu, but it crash in a script I have
[19:16] <ubuntu> ;]
[19:16] <genii> Minnozz: Perhaps stop the interface (sudo iconfig <ethname> down)    then remove/reinsert the driver it uses (sudo modprobe -r <modulename>;sudo modprobe <modulename> ) then restart the interface and see if ping times change
[19:16] <Minnozz> genii: Okay, any idea what the name of the module could be?
[19:16] <Jckl> anyone know how i can connect to my phone running windows mobile so i can transfer files?
[19:16] <c0rle0n3> the /usr/include is the correct patch?
[19:17] <rabindra> coreymon77: i checked the help page at  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto and what it says I have already done
[19:17] <genii> Minnozz: If you pastebin result of lsmod I could pick it out for you
[19:17] <venik> !pidgin
[19:17] <ubotu> The Instant Messenger Client Pidgin (formerly Gaim) (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !Kopete
[19:17] <kkathman> Jckl:   have you just tried connecting it to a usb or something - it should look like an attached drive
[19:17] <Minnozz> genii: Okay, wait a sec :)
[19:18] <Jckl> yea i connected it to my usb cable
[19:18] <c0rle0n3> I think RH is the solution :(
[19:18] <rabindra> the refresh rate is still 50 hz worse than what was before enabling the restricted drivers; it was 60 before
[19:18] <Minnozz> genii: http://pastebin.com/m7813e5ac
[19:18] <kkathman> my phone connected, Jckl ,  and I could access just like an external drive - via dolphin or konq
[19:19] <JoshOvki> Minnozz: just out of curiosity what switch are you using?
[19:20] <Minnozz> JoshOvki: A US Robotics wireless access point (of which the wireless feature is inactive), and my router is a SpeedTouch/Alcatel thing
[19:20] <Minnozz> * router/modem
[19:21] <JoshOvki> ah... US Robotics. My ex girlfriend had one of them, and every so often everything would just slow right down untill i restarted it. i then did a firmware update and it got worse
[19:21] <Jckl> kkathman: using dmesg i see  PocketPC PDA converter now attached to ttyUSB0   but i cant see it as a drive and it does not show up under fdisk -l
[19:21] <JoshOvki> (thats not the reason she is my ex girlfriend tho)
[19:21] <Minnozz> JoshOvki: But the thing is, when I restart my PC, everyting is just fine again (ie no switch reboot needed)
[19:22] <JoshOvki> hmmm :S maby there is a build up of failed packages that clear
[19:22] <JoshOvki> are both your server and the pc slow?
[19:22] <Minnozz> No, only the PC
[19:22] <kkathman> Jckl:  hmmm  I have a Motorola Q9h running windows mobile 6 and seems to be ok
[19:22] <JoshOvki> ok scrap my idea then
[19:23] <genii> Minnozz: Apologies for lag, work required me. Reading the paste now
[19:23] <mot> has anybody gotten any of the phones running windows mobile to run linux yet? :)
[19:23] <rabindra> i just installed rpm, where do i use it from
[19:23] <Minnozz> genii: No problem, I'm glad you're helping me :)
[19:23] <Jckl> hmm i have mobile 5.. i have the upgrade for 6 but have not done it yet.. maybe that is the problem.. i am gonna try to mount it manually
[19:24] <JoshOvki> Minnozz: what OS is ur server running? and is the ping slow between you and the router or you and the rest of the world (sorry if its been asked already)
[19:25] <Minnozz> JoshOvki: My server runs Debian, my PC runs Kubuntu. Everything from/to my PC is slow, but for instance a ping from my server to google.com is just fine
[19:25] <genii> Minnozz: sky2 is the driver
[19:26] <Minnozz> genii: Okay, I'm gonna try reloading it
[19:27] <JoshOvki> wats the ping like from ur pc to ur switch/router?
[19:27] <genii> JoshOvki: He has same lag issue if just from pc to router or if from pc to some arbitrary IP
[19:28] <JoshOvki> ah ok
[19:29] <Minnozz> genii: Hmm, this is weird
[19:29] <mhollisjr> Okay this is really getting annoying, Nothing is in autostart, the session is not being restored, where is Compiz loading from?
[19:29] <Minnozz> genii: Now there is no connection at all
[19:29]  * JoshOvki points at genii and says   He did it
[19:29] <Minnozz> genii: eth1 is up, but ping $ip gives 'Destination Host Unreachable'
[19:30] <JoshOvki> Minnozz: what does   ifconfig   throw back?
[19:30] <genii> Minnozz: You did:    sudo ifconfig eth1 down; sudo modprobe -r sky2;sudo modprobe sky2; sudo ifconfig eth1 up                   ? or equivelent
[19:30] <mhollisjr> I'll settle for any guesses -sigh-
[19:31] <Minnozz> genii: Yes, exactly that (but eth1 was already up after the last modprobe)
[19:31] <Minnozz> JoshOvki: eth1 and lo
[19:31] <Minnozz> JoshOvki: Can't paste it for you without a connection
[19:32] <JoshOvki> Minnozz: anthing like           inet addr:192.168.1.101  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0    in there?  (replacing the numbers for your own)
[19:32] <genii> Minnozz: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[19:32] <Minnozz> JoshOvki: Yes (10.0.0.152, 10.0.0.255 and 255.255.255.0 for me)
[19:33] <JoshOvki> hmmm, try what genii suggested
[19:33] <rabindra> please guide me on installing synaptic package manager from adept manager
[19:33] <Minnozz> genii: Done that, still not working
[19:33] <JoshOvki> Minnozz: im guessing the IP range is correct btw
[19:34] <genii> Minnozz: sudo dhclient -r eth1;sudo dhclient eth1
[19:34] <DarkriftX> rabindra, sudo apt-get install synaptic
[19:35] <DarkriftX> thats the easiest way
[19:35] <aaro__> Hello
[19:36] <Piero_Scaruffi> hi
[19:36] <Piero_Scaruffi> aaro__
[19:36] <Minnozz> genii: Done that, it says something about 'No DHCPDISCOVERS on eth1 ...' but I'm using a static ip (so that's not important, right?)
[19:37] <genii> Minnozz: Ah static, OK.
[19:37] <Minnozz> genii: My interface has no IP now, ifdown && ifup?
[19:38] <aaro__> What is SU ?
[19:38] <genii> Minnozz: Yes, then try to ping 10.0.0.1 (I assume is the router)
[19:38] <rabindra> darkriftX:thanks
[19:38] <genii> aaro__: Substitute User
[19:38] <aaro__> thank you
[19:39] <genii> aaro__: np
[19:39] <genii> aaro__: man su  for extended info on syntax
[19:39] <JoshOvki> Minnozz: or ping 10.0.0.255 as its the default gateway
[19:40] <Minnozz> genii, JoshOvki: 10.0.0.138 is the IP of my router (and 10.0.0.200 of my switch)
[19:40] <genii> JoshOvki: I think that would be his broadcast IP :)
[19:40] <JoshOvki> ah yeh *hits head*
[19:41] <JoshOvki> ping10.0.0.138 then ;)
[19:42] <genii> Minnozz: Work requires me
[19:42] <Minnozz> genii: Had a little trouble bringing it up again (ifconfig / ifup conflict) but still doesn't work :(
[19:42] <Minnozz> genii: Ah, okay. Thanks a lot for your help :)
[19:43] <JoshOvki> Minnozz: still got an IP in ifconfig?
[19:43] <Minnozz> JoshOvki: Yes (I edited /etc/network/interfaces once), but I can't find my gateway IP there. Is it supposed to be there?
[19:44] <srinaraj> any one from India
[19:44] <srinaraj> ?
[19:45] <JoshOvki> Minnozz: it might not be needed, was thinking windows
[19:46] <Minnozz> Hmm, I could just reboot my PC and it is fixed. But I think that's a bad solution
[19:47] <Minnozz> It's just not supposed to happen
[19:48] <mhollisjr> When I login to an x session, what launches plasma on hardy? I asked #ubuntu+1, they sent me to you :D
[19:48] <JoshOvki> Minnozz: try add.ing    gateway *.*.*.*   where the * are the correct numbers
[19:48] <mhollisjr> or wait let me rephrase the question
[19:49] <mhollisjr> what are all the startup locations and config files from the point of leaving the login screen to a fully up and running desktop?
[19:49] <Minnozz> JoshOvki: How is that done again; ifconfig eth1 gateway 10.0.0.138 ?
[19:49] <rabindra> darkriftX: this is the error i am getting
[19:49] <JoshOvki> Minnozz: all to the same effect :)
[19:49] <rabindra> Package synaptic is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[19:49] <rabindra> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[19:49] <rabindra> is only available from another source
[19:49] <rabindra> E: Package synaptic has no installation candidate
[19:51] <JoshOvki> Minnozz: yeh sorry, didnt read correctly
[19:52] <mhollisjr> Autorun, and /etc/X11/Xsession.d are the only ones I've found what else am I missing?
[19:52] <Minnozz> JoshOvki: are you sure it's possible to add a gateway with ifconfig ?
[19:52] <Minnozz> there's nothing about it in the manpage
[19:53] <JoshOvki> i wasnt 100% sure so i googled:     http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[19:53] <JoshOvki> oh sorry miss read again
[19:54] <JoshOvki> im not sure about that, you could always add it and ifconfig down && ifconfig up  should re-read it
[19:55] <Minnozz> JoshOvki: done that (and the gateway declaration was already in the config file)
[19:55] <JoshOvki> ah ok
[19:56] <JoshOvki> Minnozz: still no connection im guessing then
[19:56] <Minnozz> JoshOvki: nope :(
[19:56]  * JoshOvki is stummped
[19:57] <rabindra> srinaraj: ya, currently
[19:57] <genii> Minnozz: If you are using the x.x.x.138 as gateway to internet you should specify in the /etc/network/interfaces entry for eth1 that ip for gateway. Also seems odd your switch has any ip of it's own at all.
[19:58] <Minnozz> genii: The gateway entry in /etc/network/interfaces was already there (made the file a long time ago)
[19:58] <Minnozz> genii: And my switch is not really a switch, it is a wireless access point that I use as a switch
[19:58] <Minnozz> (it's a wireless access point with built-in switch)
[20:00] <Minnozz> genii: I don't think the config is the problem, because it works just fine 99% of the time
[20:01] <Minnozz> * that config
[20:01] <coreymon77> !oh, wait  asec
[20:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oh, wait  asec - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:01] <coreymon77> whoops
[20:02] <coreymon77> anyways
[20:02] <coreymon77> Minnozz: you do use wireless?
[20:02] <Minnozz> coreymon77: Nope, all wired
[20:02] <coreymon77> oh, sorry then, i dont know much about wired problems
[20:03] <coreymon77> i got all my knowledge through my countless problems, and they were all with wireless
[20:03]  * genii gives coreymon77 a large coffee for the effort
[20:03] <coreymon77> i always try
[20:03] <Minnozz> Hmm, speaking about coffee... brb
[20:04] <rabindra> someone help me i just installed vlc where to run it from?
[20:04] <genii> Minnozz: I had a motherboard with same chipset/driver (Marvell Yukon) and had endless probs with the nic since it's chipset is also invoved in the sata controller and audio
[20:04] <coreymon77> rabindra: if you installed a client, it should be somewhere in the kmenu
[20:05] <JoshOvki> genii: where is mine?:P i havnt had a re-fill in over 40 mins :P
[20:06] <rabindra> coreymon77: it's not there it shows in add or remove programs in the multimedia category but not in the k-menu
[20:06]  * genii slides JoshOvki down a large Ubuntu mug of coffee
[20:06] <dvoid> when i view properties for a .vob file in koqnueror it says "plain text file" why does it think its a text file, and how do i fix it?
[20:06] <coreymon77> did you install a vlient, or any sort of frontend, or just the server
[20:06] <rabindra> coreymon77: i installed it from the command line
[20:06] <coreymon77> client*
[20:07] <coreymon77> which package
[20:07] <coreymon77> ?
[20:08] <dhq__> when building my bootis splash screen i get this error
[20:08] <dhq__> ttf.c:802: warning: pointer targets in assignment differ in signedness
[20:17] <genii> dhq__: Thats a warning, not an error
[20:17] <dhq__> genii: http://pastebin.dylanhq.com/110
[20:19] <JoshOvki> dhq__: try installing g++   always seems to work better for compliling for me
[20:19] <genii> dhq__: I think you may need to go up one directory level before running the make
[20:20] <dhq__> genii: it doesnt work
[20:21] <SpeS> hi, errrrrr... where is alsaconf in Kubuntu? :(
[20:21]  * Minnozz back
[20:22] <JoshOvki> wb Minnozz
[20:22] <genii> dhq__: It seems to be groaning about trying to use ft2build within the code before it has been included.
[20:22] <Minnozz> ty :)
[20:22] <Minnozz> genii: So you think it's a problem with the NIC?
[20:22] <dhq__> genii: so what do i have to do to  make it ok
[20:24] <Minnozz> My motherboard happens to have two ethernet ports, maybe I should try the other one?
[20:26] <JoshOvki> that usualy works off the same chipset
[20:26] <genii> dhq__: No idea, however it gives an example of a line which you could try adding to the start .c file it's trying to run or the freetype header file it's trying to pull in
[20:28] <genii> Minnozz: I had to put i2c,sata_mv, and sky2 driver names into my /etc/modules in that load order and because my sound was intelhda to recompile alsa with support for it
[20:29] <Minnozz> genii: Hmm... you think a newer kernel will fix it?
[20:30] <Minnozz> I'm using the repository version now (2.6.22-14)
[20:31] <genii> Minnozz: I just heard earlier today that the newest Hardy kernel update has the intelhda fix built in. Which may help, but I myself would not move to 8.04 just to get my nic working
[20:31] <Minnozz> genii: And what about upgrading only the kernel? (ie compiling it myself)
[20:32] <genii> Minnozz: It's possible if you feel brave :)
[20:33] <Minnozz> genii: I'll try that, but I haven't done that before. Are there any special options I need?
[20:34] <genii> Minnozz: There is already a kernel make-list usually which you use as a template. One minute I'll try to find you some good tutorial
[20:35] <Minnozz> genii: Okay, thanks. I'm rebooting my PC, so I'll have internet again
[20:38] <genii> Minnozz: There is an older (for 6.10) but very comprehensive and still relevent tutorial here: http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu
[20:40] <Minnozz> genii: Going to try that one :)
[20:41] <genii> Minnozz: Compiling your own kernel is not a small task for a beginner and I would recommend against it normally except for cases where there is some feature which can only be enabled by doing it.
[20:43] <Minnozz> genii: Yeah I know, but I'm not a complete beginner; I think I'll try it
[20:44] <genii> Minnozz: Latest kernel tree is 2.6.24-4
[20:45] <Minnozz> genii: I shouldn't use the rc's, right?
[20:51] <oubelhamid> kubuntu.fr
[20:53] <genii> Minnozz: Sorry for lag, work again. You mean rc->release candidate? It's up to you I guess
[20:53] <Minnozz> genii: Yeah I meant those :) Involves some (extra?) patching I see; I'll stick with the last stable version
[20:55] <oubelhamid> give me server for kubuntu french
[20:56] <JoshOvki> !fr | oubelhamid
[20:56] <ubotu> oubelhamid: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[20:59] <JoshOvki> your welcome 8-)
[21:01] <oubelhamid> comment???
[21:01] <roman> ahoj, je tu nekdo guru v mountovani disku?
[21:02] <oubelhamid> !!!!
[21:02] <oubelhamid> je  veux une conversation francaise
[21:02] <JoshOvki> oubelhamid:  #kubuntu-fr
[21:02] <sourcemaker> !Riddell
[21:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about riddell - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:02] <Minnozz> oubelhamid: cette channel est Anglais
[21:04] <Minnozz> ( French has never been my best subject )
[21:05] <roman> hi, how i can mount ntfs disk and why my NTFS disk is shown as system SFS
[21:05] <roman> ?
[21:06] <genii> roman: If the drive is encrypted it will show as SFS
[21:08] <roman>  and how i can mount it?
[21:09] <roman> genii: how i can mount it?
[21:10] <genii> roman: If the ntfs drive was encrypted with the program provided from microsoft it cannot be mounted from linux. If it was encrypted with Trucrypt it's possible to mount it.
[21:11] <Minnozz> Do I need to download the kernel headers seperately or are they included with the source?
[21:11] <nosrednaekim> headers are separate
[21:11] <Minnozz> nosrednaekim: Do you know the 'official' download location?
[21:12] <nosrednaekim> Minnozz: the repositories, and they should be on the CD for the default kernel
[21:16] <Minnozz> thanks nosrednaekim, but I found that they are included with the source
[21:16] <nosrednaekim> oh... you said source... sorry :)
[21:16] <nosrednaekim> thought you meant the normal kernel
[21:17] <Minnozz> ah okay :) np
[21:21] <Ace2016> OMG From 29th April, we’ll be banning all goods that can be digitally downloaded or transferred electronically from being listed in any format on eBay.co.uk and eBay.ie. We’re doing this to prevent bad experiences and preserve the integrity of the Feedback system.
[21:22] <Ace2016> man if it wasn't for ebay i never would have gotten something i really needed
[21:22] <Ace2016> argh wrong channel
[21:22] <Ace2016> sorry all
[21:22] <Ace2016> i thought i was in offtopic
[21:23] <nosrednaekim> :)
[21:26] <mhollisjr>  I'm attempting to bind my forward and back keys, and I have a working configuration, with one major problem, if I'm holding down my right mouse button at the same time, the event doesn't fire, so my question is how can I make it so that button works even if I'm holding down button 3, but not when I'm just hitting button 3, here's my relevant  .xbindkeysrc http://pastebin.com/d7ce7a1e8
[21:28] <juako> hola
[21:28] <damian> damian
[21:29] <mhollisjr> anyone know or know where I'd have a better chance finding an answer?
[21:34] <damian> hay alguien de argentina
[21:35] <nosrednaekim> !es
[21:35] <ubotu> Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[21:35] <nosrednaekim> mhollisjr: TBH..no
[21:35] <nosrednaekim> mhollisjr: google maybe ;P
[21:36] <mhollisjr> google answers what I already know, but unfortunatly makes no mention of holding down another button at the same time
[21:36] <nosrednaekim> maybe xorg has a channel
[21:37] <nosrednaekim> try #xorg
[21:37] <mhollisjr> alright thanks for your help
[21:40]  * dwidmann is back.
[21:42] <_Redondos_> hi
[21:43] <SlimeyPete> hi
[21:43] <_Redondos_> I can't play the games at: www.laplatavive.com having flash player 9 installed. Do you know why?
[21:43] <_Redondos_> maybe you can check it with your browser
[21:44] <SlimeyPete> I am on a text-only system at the moment, sorry
[21:44] <SlimeyPete> perhaps someone else here can help
[21:44] <_Redondos_> SlimeyPete: ok no problem, thank you anyway
[21:45] <Nyad> whats the problem?
[21:45] <_Redondos_> Nyad: I can't play the games at: www.laplatavive.com having flash player 9 installed. Do you know why?
[21:45] <_Redondos_> it's the same adobe flash player and macromedia flash player?
[21:46] <dwidmann> _Redondos_: yes, but are you sure it doesn't require the shockwave player?
[21:46] <Nyad> lemme see if it works for me.
[21:47] <_Redondos_> dwidmann: well..
[21:47] <_Redondos_> dwidmann: don't know..
[21:47] <dwidmann> _Redondos_: does flash work for you on other sites?
[21:47] <_Redondos_> dwidmann: would you try to exec some game for me in your browser?
[21:47] <_Redondos_> yes
[21:47] <_Redondos_> although..
[21:48] <_Redondos_> www.laplatavive.com I think is designed in flash
[21:48] <_Redondos_> I mean the portal
[21:48] <dwidmann> If flash is working for your for everything else, either it requires Shockwave or there's some sort of problem with Flash, either case you probably can't fix it.
[21:48] <_Redondos_> aja
[21:48] <_Redondos_> it asks me for a .dcr file to open
[21:49] <Nyad> _Redondos_: I can't even go to the site
[21:49] <_Redondos_> of type "x-director"
[21:49] <_Redondos_> ahh
[21:49] <dwidmann> x-director = shockwave
[21:49] <_Redondos_> ok
[21:49] <_Redondos_> mm
[21:49] <dwidmann> Not available for Linux ..... sorrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyy
[21:49] <_Redondos_> dwidmann: have you tried to enter?
[21:49] <dwidmann> (blame Adobe!!)
[21:49] <_Redondos_> ahhh
[21:49] <_Redondos_> perfect...
[21:49] <_Redondos_> fuck you adobe
[21:50] <eddieftw> please watch your language in here _Redondos_
[21:50] <_Redondos_> eddieftw: sorry
[21:50] <eddieftw> that's okay
[21:50] <dwidmann> eddieftw, _Redondos_: inappropriate, but I can't help but agree
[21:50] <ThompsonT> Where do i go to change the appearance settings of the login screen?
[21:51] <_Redondos_> well so there isn't way to make it work...
[21:51] <Nyad> how do I stop konsole from making my beeper beep?
[21:51] <stdin> dwidmann: please turn off away/back messages
[21:51] <_Redondos_> thank you dwidmann, Nyad
[21:51] <_Redondos_> bye!
[21:51] <dwidmann> stdin: Already did
[21:52] <stdin> dwidmann: ok :)
[21:52] <Nyad> _Redondos_:  you do have flash-nonfree plugin installed right?
[21:52] <_Redondos_> Nyad: yes
[21:53] <dwidmann> Nyad: the site said that the mimetype is x-director (aka: Adobe Shockwave)
[21:53] <_Redondos_> maybe some trick with wine?
[21:53] <Nyad> run ie6 :)
[21:53] <dwidmann> _Redondos_: you might be able to install a  browser in wine, and shockwave along with it, YMMV
[21:54] <_Redondos_> yes.. I'll try
[21:54] <Nyad> whats YMMV?
[21:54] <_Redondos_> the problem is that the last time I tried to execute an iexplore in wine it gave me errors..
[21:54] <_Redondos_> Nyad: you say ie6 could work?
[21:54] <stdin> _Redondos_: you can install firefox in wine, that's easier than IE
[21:55] <_Redondos_> ahh..
[21:55] <Nyad> thats a better plan
[21:55] <_Redondos_> mmm
[21:55] <_Redondos_> stdin: but it comes with shockwave installed?
[21:55] <_Redondos_> stdin: I think it doesn't...
[21:55] <Nyad> no
[21:55] <_Redondos_> well
[21:55] <stdin> _Redondos_: no, but it will install in the firefox in wine
[21:55] <Nyad> you have to install it yourself but its easy
[21:56] <_Redondos_> well, I'll sop talking and go to download firefox and ie6
[21:56] <stdin> _Redondos_: just go to a page with shockwave content and click the "install plugin" button
[21:56] <_Redondos_> aha
[21:56] <_Redondos_> perfect
[21:56] <_Redondos_> I'll try
[22:00] <_Redondos_> I'll come back and comment you how it was
[22:00] <_Redondos_> thank you all
[22:00] <paoligno> hi. i'm trying to install gtkwave (from srcs).
[22:00] <paoligno> checking for glib-config... no
[22:00] <paoligno> checking for GLIB - version >= 1.2.0... no
[22:01] <paoligno> .... any suggestion?
[22:02] <Nyad> how do I stop konsole from making my beeper beep?
[22:02] <flea> Nyad: settings> bell > none ?
[22:03] <Nyad> not there
[22:04] <flea> whtas not
[22:05] <dwidmann> Nyad: settings -> notifications probably
[22:05] <Nyad> kmenu-->settings-->bell
[22:05] <flea> settings menu in konsole
[22:06] <flea> if your menu is hidden i *think* its f11
[22:06] <flea> i can't read mine w/o glasses
[22:07] <Nyad> ok its off
[22:07] <flea> anyone here know how to force a module to .not. load at kernel boot (from install disc)
[22:08] <flea> reading ubuntu forums, someone posted something like <module>.blacklist=true
[22:08] <stdin> paoligno: why don't you want the one that's packaged?
[22:08] <flea> but kernel disregards it
[22:09] <paoligno> stdin: it's an old version
[22:09] <paoligno> i need the up to date onw
[22:09] <paoligno> one
[22:09] <Kr|ptiX> can someone help me  with fixing my graphic problem http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii118/kript1x/wowss1.png
[22:10] <stdin> paoligno: "sudo apt-get install build-essential && sudo apt-get build-dep gtkwave" to get the dependencies needed to build
[22:10] <flea> lol @ wow
[22:11] <Kr|ptiX> flea :(
[22:12]  * Kr|ptiX is back ( Away 18 hours 38 mins 43 secs )
[22:12] <paoligno> stdin: didn't work
[22:12] <stdin> define "didn't work"
[22:12] <paoligno> stdin: your suggestion didn't work
[22:12] <paoligno> the error remains the same
[22:12] <stdin> !away > Kr|ptiX
[22:13] <stdin> paoligno: after running "sudo apt-get build-dep gtkwave"  and installing those packages?
[22:13] <paoligno> stdin: yes
[22:14] <paoligno> stdin: i have to install gtkwave from srcs
[22:14] <paoligno> not from packages
[22:14] <stdin> paoligno: the command I gave installs the things needed to build the source
[22:15] <paoligno> stdin: but it didn't work
[22:15] <paoligno> checking for GLIB - version >= 1.2.0... no
[22:15] <stdin> try installing libglib2.0-dev
[22:15] <paoligno> stdin: already installed
[22:17] <stdin> paoligno: you need version 1.2 then, libglib1.2-dev
[22:18] <paoligno> stdin: nothing
[22:19] <stdin> has to have done someting, glib-config is in that package for a start
[22:20] <paoligno> stdin: maybe i have to set some env var
[22:20] <paoligno> stdin: wait: i have installed libgtk1.2
[22:20] <paoligno> and now it occours another error
[22:20] <stdin> are you sure you have a newer source, it's using an old glib?
[22:21] <stdin> and an old gtk
[22:22] <paoligno> stdin: ok, solved
[22:23] <paoligno> thnks for your help, anyway
[22:23] <RDC> hi
[22:24] <SlimeyPete> hi.
[22:26] <RDC> new user here...i'm hoping to get some help.... KDE3.5 was running fine until yesterday... i then installed kde4 (and along with synaptic updates), somthing has now stopped working and i now get a startup error: "unable to mount root fs on unknown block"
[22:26] <RDC> i  have tried changing the menu.lst line from uuid=xxxx to /dev/hda1 with no luck...
[22:26] <nosrednaekim> that must be the synaptic updates.. probably an initramfs screwup
[22:26] <nosrednaekim> RDC: do you have any older kernels in GRUB?
[22:28] <RDC> nope only 1... menu.lst is:
[22:28] <RDC> title		Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic
[22:28] <RDC> root		(hd0,0)
[22:28] <RDC> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=dbfe14e2-44c0-4d5b-84b7-e523d2ac1218 ro noapic
[22:28] <RDC> initrd		/boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
[22:28] <RDC> quiet
[22:28] <RDC> also recovery mode fails with same error
[22:29] <RDC> i am running under "live" session of pclinuxos
[22:30] <RDC> nosrednaekim: i am a relative newb... any suggestions as to how to diagnose/fix?
[22:30] <nosrednaekim> ok
[22:30] <nosrednaekim> RDC: what about recovery mode?no entry for that?
[22:32] <RDC> yep - but same version, and fails with same error
[22:34] <stdin> you can try mounting your root "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt" then doing "sudo -i" to get a root shell and then "chroot /mnt", then do "dpkg --configure -a" and "update-initramfs -k 2.6.22-14-generic -u" to regenerate the initrd image
[22:34] <RDC> k will try that command now
[22:34] <stdin> if pclinuxos doesn't use sudo just use "su"
[22:34] <paule11> http://www.gulli.com/
[22:35] <stdin> paule11: ?
[22:35] <paule11> 118
[22:36] <RDC> [root@dhcppc2 root]# sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt
[22:36] <RDC> [root@dhcppc2 root]# sudo -i
[22:36] <RDC> [root@dhcppc2 ~]# chroot /mnt
[22:36] <RDC> chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Exec format error
[22:36] <RDC> [root@dhcppc2 ~]#
[22:36] <flea> u got eff'd up kernel
[22:37] <nosrednaekim> RDC: is it installed on hda1?
[22:37] <nosrednaekim> RDC: run an ls of /mnt
[22:38] <RDC> [root@dhcppc2 /]# cd mnt
[22:38] <RDC> [root@dhcppc2 mnt]# ls
[22:38] <RDC> bin/    dev/   initrd/      lib32/       media/  proc/  srv/  usr/
[22:38] <RDC> boot/   etc/   initrd.img@  lib64@       mnt/    root/  sys/  var/
[22:38] <RDC> cdrom@  home/  lib/         lost+found/  opt/    sbin/  tmp/  vmlinuz@
[22:38] <RDC> [root@dhcppc2 mnt]#
[22:38] <stdin> can you please use pastebin
[22:38] <stdin> !paste
[22:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[22:39] <RDC> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62160/
[22:40] <RDC> sry - this is my first time on chat in ~10 yrs... no "pastebin" back then
[22:40] <nosrednaekim> wow...... thats odd, something is seriously screwed up there. kernel shouldn't affect chrooting
[22:41] <RDC> i'm in pclinuxos for this session - as for some reason my ubuntu live cd is also broken
[22:41] <RDC> otherwise 7.10 was working fine for ~2 months
[22:45] <nosrednaekim> RDC: well, first of all, i'd back up anything you have on that partition
[22:46] <RDC> according to gentoo wiki, this chroot error is just indicating "livecd environment is not compatible with that of the installed system."
[22:46] <nosrednaekim> oh, thats a good point... did you install 64 bit ubuntu?
[22:47] <nosrednaekim> forgot about that :)
[22:47] <RDC> yep - amd64
[22:47] <RDC> sry not to mention
[22:47] <RDC> .... should i post any other info files?
[22:48] <gkffjcs> is there a way that I can force eject the cd tray, I was running an app in wine off of cd, and now I cannot eject the cd, I get an error telling me that the device is busy.
[22:48] <nosrednaekim> RDC: ok.. you need a amd64 liveCD then
[22:49] <nosrednaekim> gkffjcs: sure.... try "sudo eject /dev/cdrom0"
[22:50] <nitin> gkffjcs, try this command to see if it helps, sudo eject cdrom
[22:51] <gkffjcs> sudo eject cdrom worked, thanks
[22:51] <linux__> xhdfjh
[22:51] <RDC> ok, will try downloading that and picking up your instructions from there, thx
[22:55] <RDC> and nosrednaekim, thankyou very much for your help
[22:56] <RDC> and thx to stdin as well
[23:05] <jords> how do you upgrade to the 8.04 KDE4 version? I'm tried following these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades/Kubuntu but that was going to upgrade me to the LTS version....
[23:05] <stdin> !kde4 | jords
[23:05] <ubotu> jords: KDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[23:06] <JoshOvki> that needs updating
[23:08] <jords> yeah it seems so... no information on upgrading to hardy 8.04...
[23:09] <stdin> jords: 8.04 isn't released yet, that's why there are no instructions
[23:11] <jessica> i am wanting to make it apper as though i live in the US i live in england but a website is only avalable to people in the US is there any software that can do that
[23:23] <pidus> i am using kubuntu 7.10 and during an update the adept manager hung and with nothing left to do i restarted but the grub now shows Error 15: File not found
[23:24] <dwidmann> jessica: probably can be done, I wouldn't know how though, ip spoofing or something?
[23:24] <pidus> when i try to use command line means to fix it
[23:24] <jessica> ok ill try something
[23:25] <jessica> ill post back if i do it
[23:25] <pidus> the boot sessions runs till it stops while detecting the cdrom
[23:25] <dwidmann> pidus: you'll need to fire up a live cd and reinstall grub
[23:25] <dwidmann> pidus: I think, anyway
[23:25] <pidus> and how do i resintall grub using the live cd?
[23:26] <paco_> ciao a tutti
[23:26] <dwidmann> pidus: , in a shell, "sudo grub-install /path/to/partition/with/grub"
[23:26] <dwidmann> I think
[23:27] <pidus> can't it be done in a way similar to http://www.blogmanno.com/?q=node/69
[23:28] <dwidmann> pidus: you may also need to fix some things, in that same terminal "sudo mkdir /media/kubuntu && sudo mount /dev/path/to/kubuntu /media/kubuntu"
[23:28] <spiroo> Is there someway you directly could convert a tarball (sourcefile) directly to a debian package?
[23:28] <dwidmann> One sec, am looking.
[23:28] <dwidmann> spiroo: not really, no.
[23:29] <dwidmann> spiroo:  you could use something like checkinstall to make a half-baked debian package (good enough for personal use, IMO)
[23:29] <spiroo> dwidmann: I am tired of installing sources, I want it to be simple. You always have to extract, build and a lot of things.
[23:29] <dwidmann> spiroo: though that still requires all the dev stuff to be installed and and for you to build it ....
[23:30] <pidus> i have the initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic.bak file in /boot/
[23:30] <spiroo> dwidmann: If its easier than extract and all the things, I could do it. I just want it to be easier.
[23:30] <dwidmann> spiroo: c'est la vi
[23:30] <Jucato> spiroo: of course. you're not just *installing* source code... you need to compile them first. that's why they take more steps than installing a precompiled package
[23:31] <dwidmann> pidus: give it a try and see if it works
[23:31] <spiroo> Jucato: Yes, I know ;) Just wondering if there is a way to autocompile and then just install. Theres kind oh handy with .deb-fifiles :P You just doubleclick and isntall :D
[23:32] <Jucato> (if you only knew the amount of work that gets done to have a properly made "handy" .deb file...)
[23:32] <dwidmann> spiroo: deb packages spoil us really good :)
[23:33]  * dwidmann has a fair idea, and shudders to think about it
[23:33] <pidus> dwidmann: it doesn't :( certainly not as simply as that page says. It stops with uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
[23:33] <jordan_> hey can anyone help me mount a hd plz
[23:33] <dwidmann> pidus: , I've never seen that error before
[23:33] <Jucato> spiroo: oh. and to make a .deb package.. you still need to extract and compile the sources :)
[23:33] <dwidmann> !mount
[23:33] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[23:34] <pidus> dwidmann: ok
[23:34] <spiroo> Yeah, but I like it easy, especially if it is applications. I have become quite greedy of the transition from Windows to GNU/Linux. Sometimes I just install applications for test. But I would like it more easy. I can do manually things of course and do some simple things in terminal. Not to advanced though :P
[23:34] <jordan_> ty but i have edited my fstab and i get error mesage
[23:34] <spiroo> Jucato: hehe, would be nice if there was an application that could do it for you xD lol
[23:35] <SlimeyPete> jordan_: let us know what the error is and if anyone recognises it, they'll help
[23:35] <dwidmann> Jucato: IMO the tools used for building the packages are more complicated to learn that it would be to write my own script for it (assuming I woudln't be doing too many ...)
[23:35] <Jucato> spiroo: .deb packaging is definitely not that :)
[23:35] <jordan_> well when i add this line to it i get
[23:35] <jordan_> :/dev/hdb /media/hdb1 vfat user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0   0
[23:36] <Jucato> spiroo: packaging benefits the end user more than the packager (you, in this case)
[23:36] <jordan_> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb,
[23:36] <jordan_>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[23:36] <jordan_>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[23:36] <jordan_>        dmesg | tail  or so
[23:36] <Jucato> !paste | jordan_
[23:36] <ubotu> jordan_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[23:36] <jordan_> kk
[23:36] <jordan_> sry
[23:37] <SlimeyPete> you sure it's vfat? try "auto" instead of "vfat"
[23:37] <jordan_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62180/
[23:37] <jordan_> kk
[23:37] <spiroo> Jucato: I guess I am just to selfish :D
[23:37] <Jucato> spiroo: not really. just too ideal :P
[23:38] <jordan_> you must specify the filesystem type
[23:38] <Jucato> spiroo: as for checkinstall, you still need to 1. extract the sources and 2. run configure and make (depending on the build system used)
[23:38] <jordan_> after running sudo mount -a
[23:38] <jordan_> it was from a previous kubuntu install if that helps
[23:38] <Jucato> spiroo: you might even be better off writing your own script to automate it than relying on packaging, as dwidmann mentioned
[23:38] <spiroo> Jucato: Woho, I guess I stick with the tarballs then ... :D
[23:38] <jordan_> just a data storage drive though
[23:39] <spiroo> Jucato: I trust you guys. What could possibly go wrong with linux, right? :P
[23:40] <Jucato> spiroo: tbh, I find it plain compiling from source easier and more manageable than using checkinstall or packaging it... specially if it's just for myself :D
[23:40] <spiroo> Jucato: it is not very often a package has been broken for me or anything really. Or well, KDE4 is quite buggy, but is completely understandable.
[23:40] <spiroo> Jucato: tbh?
[23:41] <Jucato> "to be honest"
[23:41] <SlimeyPete> jordan_: I'm not sure I can help any further but it might be a good idea to run "sudo fdisk /dev/hdb" and see what partition type fdisk thinks it is.
[23:41] <SlimeyPete> unfortunately I haven't got access to fdisk at the moment but I think you type "p" to print the partition table (type "help" first to confirm!)
[23:41] <Torple> I've done a fresh install of kubuntu 7.10 Is there a hardware management, device list, or detection gui tool?
[23:42] <hyperactivecrond> fdisk -l shows all of your partitions
[23:42] <spiroo> btw I found debian-builder .P
[23:42] <hyperactivecrond> Torple: what do you need it for
[23:42] <jordan_> :/dev/hdb1   *           1        4998    40146403+  83  Linux
[23:42] <Torple> hyperactivecrond: I can't get my sound to work
[23:42] <SlimeyPete> 83? That's ext3
[23:42] <SlimeyPete> not vfat
[23:43] <SlimeyPete> unless it's a vfat filesystem inside a linux partition, which would be messed-up
[23:43] <jordan_> ok i have tried ext3 and did think this first but it stil lhas same error
[23:43] <jordan_> ill do again and get back to you
[23:43] <SlimeyPete> try ext2?
[23:44] <dwidmann> spiroo: if you think that's going to make things nice and easy for you your dreams are going to be shattered.
[23:44] <hyperactivecrond> torple: do you know what kind of sound card you have?
[23:44] <jordan_> no same thing for ext3
[23:44] <spiroo> dwidmann: Yes, I just figured that out now :d
[23:44] <hyperactivecrond> ext* is lame.  use reiserfs.  a murderer wrote it, so why not use it?
[23:45] <dwidmann> spiroo: by simple in the package description, it meant complicated and convoluted.
[23:45] <jordan_> ext2 no work aswell
[23:45] <spiroo> dwidmann: :D
[23:45] <Torple> My audio is not working. I've done a fresh install and everything seems to be working except sound. What should I start to check?
[23:45] <jordan_> and @ hyperactivecrond im a new linux user but with some idea of what bash is
[23:45] <spiroo> Speaking of ext3 and ext2. Is it possible to create labels for them. In both KDE 3.5 and KDE 4
[23:46] <spiroo> I hade sdax, sdbz, etc etc.
[23:46] <spiroo> *hate
[23:46] <jordan_> is there anything you guys can see wrong with this line
[23:46] <jordan_> ??
[23:46] <jordan_> :/dev/hdb /media/hdb1 ext3 user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0   0
[23:46] <hyperactivecrond> spiroo: man fdisk
[23:47] <hyperactivecrond> jordan_: sudo /sbin/fdisk -l | grep 83
[23:47] <dwidmann> spiroo: ln -s /dev/sda1 /dev/kubuntu - for example
[23:48] <Torple> How do I tell what kind of audio card I have?
[23:48] <hyperactivecrond> dwidmann: uh iirc udev'll clobber that when the machine reboots
[23:48] <hyperactivecrond> Torple: i'd look in your BIOS
[23:48] <spiroo> dwidmann and hyperactivecrond. Thanks
[23:48] <jordan_> :/dev/hdb1   *           1        4998    40146403+  83  Linux
[23:48] <dwidmann> hyperactivecrond: hmm, might not clobber it if it's not in /dev
[23:49] <hyperactivecrond> spiroo: there's your problem
[23:49] <hyperactivecrond> in your fstab, it says 'hdb'
[23:49] <hyperactivecrond> it should be 'hdb2'
[23:49] <hyperactivecrond> hdb1 ************
[23:49]  * dwidmann fires up quake4
[23:50] <mhollisjr> what utility would I use if I wanted to make a keybinding that would open a program?
[23:50] <spiroo> I hope this is not to far OT and OC, off channel :D Wondering if I rename, does it shows up as names in Dolphin in KDE4? For now it just say volume (ext3) for everyone :D Except for my NTFS :D
[23:50] <hyperactivecrond> spiroo: change hdb to hdb1
[23:50] <spiroo> hyperactivecrond: Uhm, because? And I do not have any hdb as far as I know
[23:51] <hyperactivecrond> spiroo: cat /etc/fstab | grep hdb
[23:51] <Torple> is there a command to restart audio?
[23:52] <hyperactivecrond> torple: try this:
[23:52] <hyperactivecrond> open a terminal
[23:53] <hyperactivecrond> type cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp <enter>
[23:53] <hyperactivecrond> if you hear noise, then your sound card's working
[23:53] <hyperactivecrond> hit ctrl-c
[23:53] <hyperactivecrond> if nothing happens, hit ctrl-c
[23:53] <dwidmann> hyperactivecrond: why not just use speaker-test?
[23:54] <spiroo> "cat /etc/fstab | grep hdb", would you be kind to explain what it does?
[23:54] <hyperactivecrond> dwidmann: writing random crap to dsp should be the lowest-level way there
[23:54] <hyperactivecrond> spiroo: cat shows the file, | pipes the output to grep, which searches for a string
[23:54] <hyperactivecrond> in this case, hdb
[23:54] <Torple> hyperactivecrond it says bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy when i do that command
[23:55] <genii> spiroo: It feeds the contents of the file /etc/fstab into the command grep which looks for hdb someplace in it
[23:55] <hyperactivecrond> torple: mhm
[23:55] <genii> hyperactivecrond: heh
[23:55] <spiroo> hmm, well northing happened when I typed it into my temrinal
[23:56] <hyperactivecrond> spiroo: ok then there's no sdb anything in /etc/fstab
[23:56] <genii> hyperactivecrond: hdb I think was the search and not sdb
[23:56] <hyperactivecrond> genii: fdisk shows hdb though
[23:57] <dwidmann> That's really weird .... mouse lags like crazy in Q4 at 1680x1050, but not at 1600x1000, oh well, 1600x1000 is close enough
[23:57] <jordan_> @ hyperactivecrond  plz look http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62186/
[23:57] <spiroo> Hmm, kind of confused here. I guess I try with sdb instead
[23:58] <hyperactivecrond> i hate uuids..
[23:58] <hyperactivecrond> spiroo: uname -a
[23:58] <spiroo> Linux spiroo-desktop 2.6.24-15-generic #1 SMP Fri Apr 4 03:48:31 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[23:59] <jordan_> is that a no then hyper
[23:59] <Kr|ptiX> can someone help me update my Intel 945GM Mobile driver
[23:59] <genii> spiroo: In previous versions of ubuntu the drives were like hda hdb hdc and so on, now they are usually sda sdb sdc and so on. Sometimes after an upgrade the fstab file does not reflect the change. But if fdisk reported hdX  (Xmeans some letter a-z) then thats what it should be