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seb128pochu: list cleaned, thanks00:00
seb128usually we don't get too much launchpad spam on the list because either people are not subscribed and the mails go to the moderation queue00:01
seb128or they are subscribed and they know what they are doing00:01
pochuah, right00:09
ftaseb128, "Cairo now depends on pixman 0.10.0 which was recently released"00:16
ftawant me to do it too ?00:17
seb128fta: would be nice00:17
ftaok00:17
seb128could you open a bug for this update and attach the changes there?00:18
ftaI will00:18
seb128we will need to ask for an update approval00:18
seb128thanks00:18
Amaranthooh, i wonder if that pixman has the optimization work00:18
ftai wish all those stuff were maintained in bzr..00:23
pochuwe could do a desktop-team vs bzr round 2 once Intrepid is released :)00:28
ftaor during UDS00:30
pwnguinin relation to bug #211237, why does gdmconf refuse to run if gdm isn't running?01:54
ubotuLaunchpad bug 211237 in gdm "gdmsetup won't run without gdm running" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21123701:54
pwnguini have to say, i hate it when triagers get my bug reports wrong02:22
=== asac_ is now known as asac
dholbachgood morning08:17
seb128hello dholbach08:18
crevettehello pitti08:32
crevetteI've uploaded a patch to improve slightly the autostart .desktop file08:32
crevettei've put it on the bug about bad description in gnome-session08:33
seb128crevette: that breaks translations right?08:34
crevetteah perhaps08:34
crevetteI didn't look at this point08:34
crevetteie: it is for jockey08:34
crevetteI didn't care about that, I just cared about fixing the problem08:38
seb128that's alright08:39
crevetteoh time to go to work08:39
crevettebuye08:39
crevettebye08:39
pittihi crevette08:41
pittiargh, gone already08:41
pittiI saw that patch and commented on it08:41
seb128pitti: he'll be back later most likely08:41
pittiright08:41
seb128pitti: do you have an opinion on poppler 0.8? that's a sucking situation08:42
pittino idea without seeing the changelog08:42
seb128pitti: well, it's the new stable, but they changed some api naming and the sonames08:43
pittioh, ugh08:43
seb128so updating is not easy08:43
pittiwell, do we have to?08:43
seb128but on an another side maintaining an outdate code for a lts is not optimal neither :-(08:43
seb128no08:43
pittiwell, let's say it'll be slightly less outdated :)08:43
seb128but nobody is going to fix issues on 0.608:44
seb128and fedora is already shipping the new one08:44
seb128hey hey mvo08:50
mvohey seb128!08:54
seb128mvo, pitti: I'm not sure to understand bug #21138108:56
ubotuLaunchpad bug 211381 in gdm "/etc/default/gdm inconsistency on dapper->hardy upgrade" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21138108:56
seb128using packages.ubuntu.com gives no result for this file in dapper nor hardy08:57
pittiseb128: it might get created by the postinst?08:57
* seb128 gets the gdm dapper source08:57
seb128pitti: hum, right08:58
pittiseb128: so I take it it's not relevant any more?08:59
seb128pitti: the dapper version seemed to use it to get the locale or something,  but it's not used nowadays09:01
seb128pitti: I think the preinst should just rm it09:01
pittiright, was just going to type that ;)09:01
* pitti hugs seb12809:01
* seb128 hugs pitti09:01
seb128ok, fixing that09:01
pochugood morning!09:18
asachi pochu09:18
seb128hey pochu asac09:18
pochuhi asac and seb128 :)09:19
asacseb128: i am running the metacity fix since yesterday. couldn't spot any negative regression.09:19
asacseb128: will upload09:19
seb128asac: alright09:19
asacdone ... lets listen ;)09:20
pochuoh, good :)09:20
* pochu deactivates the config workaround09:21
asacwhats going on ... i uploaded and in the next second the bug was already fixed in LP :)09:21
asachttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/175904/comments/3109:21
ubotuLaunchpad bug 175904 in firefox-3.0 "Firefox-3.0 window moves to current workspace" [Medium,Confirmed]09:21
tjaaltonasac: that's still an issue with compiz09:27
asactjaalton: ? i never saw it in compiz09:27
tjaaltonasac: when I get a popup from a window that's on another workspace it sometimes moves the window to the current workspace09:28
asactjaalton: compiz has the issue that it doesn't raise the windows reliably iirc, but that isn't "window moves to current desktop"?09:28
asachmm09:28
huatsmoring everyone09:28
tjaaltonfirst the mouse cursor goes crazy for a couple of seconds and then it either changes the view to that workspace or moves the window to the current workspace09:29
asactjaalton: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=307581#c1209:30
asacIn compiz, the _active workspace_ switches.09:30
asacThis is about the metacity issue, which everyone agrees is clearly wrong.09:30
ubotubugzilla.redhat.com bug 307581 in metacity "apps jump workspaces when urls opened" [High,Assigned: ]09:30
asac The09:31
asaccompiz behavior seems more or less sane.09:31
tjaaltonasac: right, it should change the workspace, but sometimes it doesn't and moves the windows to the current one09:31
asacthats what caillon says09:31
tjaaltonbut it's probably a compiz bug09:32
pochuoh, looks like the apt-get source foo/distro bug was reported a year ago09:32
pochuI wish I knew c++ :)09:32
asactjaalton: you want to add compiz to the bug above or open a new one?09:32
tjaaltonasac: hmm, if it's purely a compiz bug I'd rather open a new one. I think some update last month broke it, so it's not necessarily a ff3 bug09:34
asacah ok09:34
asaci leave in your hands then ;)09:34
tjaaltonOTOH compiz 0.7.4 is out, so maybe I'll just wait until it's in the archive :)09:35
tjaaltonand see if it's fixed09:35
tjaaltonconfirmed that the bug still exists. we have a helpdesk system that opens a popup when you get a new ticket, so the window is on another workspace and the popup comes up on the active workspace. when I click "OK", the "move workspace" animation gets stuck, and the mouse cursor rapidly changes state (normal/text mode), and when it finishes all the FF3 windows have moved to the current workspace09:40
tjaaltonmaybe I'll file a bug now that I already wrote what happens :)09:43
asac;)09:43
tjaaltonI wonder if there's another app I can test with09:43
asactjaalton: try the POC in the redhat bug09:44
tjaaltonah09:44
asacmost likely you need to run it multiple times09:44
asachttps://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=307581#c209:44
asacthere you go09:44
ubotubugzilla.redhat.com bug 307581 in metacity "apps jump workspaces when urls opened" [High,Assigned: ]09:44
tjaaltonthanks, I'll try it out09:45
pochuseb128: I've created a debdiff for bug 204682. should we upload it or better to wait for GNOME 2.22.1? http://emilio.pozuelo.org/~deb/gcalctool.debdiff09:48
ubotuLaunchpad bug 204682 in gcalctool "Incorrect power interpretation" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20468209:48
Amaranthtjaalton: That's not a compiz bug, that's a "the spec does not provide enough information to do the right thing" bug09:48
asacAmaranth: "and the mouse cursor rapidly changes state (normal/text mode),"09:49
Amaranthok, maybe that09:49
asac;)09:49
Amaranthbut the core issue is not a bug09:49
asacgiven that compiz normally moves to the workspace09:49
Amaranthmaybe we're trying to match metacity :)09:49
Amaranthafter all, if metacity does it it can't be wrong09:50
asacwhy would it be ok to suddenly not do that, but moving the app to the current workspace09:50
Amaranthright? :)09:50
asacAmaranth: hehe. yeah. metacity is fixed now.09:50
Amaranththere are cases where both methods fall over09:50
seb128pochu: can wait until next week I would say09:51
pochufine, I'll say so in the report09:51
asactjaalton: "and when it finishes all the FF3 windows have moved to the current workspace"09:52
asacyou say that even windows not involved move to the current workspace?09:52
asacor just dialog + parent?09:52
tjaaltonasac: all FF windows from that workspace move09:52
asactjaalton: only from that workspace?09:52
tjaaltonbut not from other workspaces09:52
tjaaltonright09:52
asacAmaranth: ^^09:52
Amaranthhrm09:53
asaci think there is some shaky bug here  that finally shakes everything to the current workspace :-P09:53
AmaranthWindow managers are hard, lets go shopping!09:53
tjaalton:)09:53
asachehe09:53
asactjaalton: maybe find someone who can reproduce that first ;)09:54
asacwho knows what kind of patches you carry around09:54
tjaaltonasac: that POC code.. what is it supposed to do? it only opens a blank window when I run it09:54
asactjaalton: yeah ... it opens a blank window .... then you should switch to another workspace09:55
asac5 seconds later it calls present09:55
tjaaltonah09:55
asactjaalton: maybe you need to modify that to not call "present", but open a dialog09:55
asacafter 5 seconds + all present on that09:55
asacs/all/call/09:55
asacnext step would be to open 3 windows, open one dialog and call present on that to see all windows getting moved to current workspace ;)09:56
tjaaltonwell, I just hit the wall with my non-existent python skills :)10:04
asactjaalton: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6456/10:08
asacoops10:08
tjaaltonheh10:08
asachttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6457/10:08
asacthats it ;)10:08
asacmaybe also call w0.present() before the d.present()10:09
tjaaltonhaha, worked! thanks :)10:10
asacunmodified?10:10
asacgood10:10
tjaaltonyes10:10
asaclet me test on my compiz desktop :)10:10
tjaaltonbut, this time all the windows from the current desktop switched to the one where that script was running :P10:10
asactjaalton: can you open a bug and attach that testcase?10:11
tjaaltonyeah10:11
asaci think two windows should be enough10:11
asactjaalton: doesn't happen here :(10:12
asacmaybe some compiz plugin?10:12
tjaaltonhmm, so maybe it's my settings then10:12
asaci just have a basic setup10:12
tjaaltonshould be pretty basic10:12
tjaaltonI'll try it on my laptop10:13
asactjaalton: actually ... my desktop doesn't move at all10:13
asace.g. i get no notification on the other desktop10:14
tjaaltonaha! :)10:14
asacso its probably some basic setting i am missing10:14
tjaaltoncould be10:14
tjaaltonon my laptop it worked like it should, ie. moved the desktop and not the windows10:16
asachell, why are things not moving here10:16
tjaaltonmaybe I need to dump the settings and diff them10:16
asacdamn10:16
asactried "Extra" ... no success10:16
asactjaalton: yeah10:17
tjaaltonuh, now I remembered that it sometimes does the same when I move windows with ctrl-alt-shift10:17
asacAmaranth: any idea what setting i might need to make present switch the workspace at all?10:18
Amaranthasac: there is no setting to manage that10:19
Amaranththere is a specification10:19
asacAmaranth: well. it doesn10:19
asact happen here on my compiz hardy desktop10:19
asacif its not a compiz setting, it must be something else10:19
AmaranthWindow managers are hard, lets go shopping!10:19
asacyeah ;) ... but i want to switch to the new desktop ;)10:20
AmaranthMy one dive into tweaking the window management parts of compiz ended up in the patch I've been waiting on review for over a month now10:20
AmaranthSo I tend to stay out of there :)10:21
asacmaybe they have a workflow problem :)10:21
AmaranthYes, the lead developer wants to write code, not run a project10:21
asaclets fork ... that is contributer friendly ;)10:21
AmaranthAnd the other two with commit access defer to him when someone changes something they don't completely understand10:21
asaclets start a flame ;)10:22
tjaaltonok, it's getting more weird10:46
tjaaltontried it on another workspace that only has a terminal, and changed to another workspace that has terminals, gedit and some firefox windows. things worked fine10:47
tjaaltontried it five times. then changed to the workspaces I used before and it still happens there10:47
tjaaltonthe compiz settings were almost identical, same plugins etc10:49
tjaaltonclosing emacs, baobab and the pidgin window helped10:52
tjaaltonyeah, pidgin is the culprit!10:53
tjaaltonasac, Amaranth: ^^10:54
Amaranthpidgin is one of the ones that does weird things and breaks around this part of the spec10:54
tjaaltonI normally keep the buddy list window open10:55
tjaaltonclosing it fixes this10:55
asaclets kill pidgin :) ... gajim is far better ;)10:55
tjaaltonit does only jabber, I use icq :)10:56
asacat lesast if you don't rely on niche protocols like ICQ and whatever exists in the woods10:56
tjaalton<g>10:56
asacI guess the real problem is icq here :)10:56
tjaaltonI've had the account for ten years :)10:56
pochuand msn! ;)10:57
asactjaalton: i had some good experiences in the past with ICQ gateways hosted by my jbber provider10:57
tjaaltontjaalton: ok cool, I actually have only one friend left who's using icq, so it shouldn't be too hard to switch :)10:59
asacmvo: firefox-themes-ubuntu will pull in firefox-2 if folks upgrade ... can i just make a recommends out of firefox-2 to prevent that?11:04
mvoasac: yes, that should work11:08
tjaaltonduh, can't reproduce the pidgin/compiz problem on my laptop11:10
huatslut crevette11:16
crevettesalu11:16
crevettet11:16
pittihi crevette12:20
crevettehi pitti12:20
pitticrevette: I saw your bug yesterday, and answered12:20
crevetteah ok12:20
crevetteI'll see12:21
crevettepitti, you can let the _name has it is for now, and perhaps change it on next cycle ?12:26
crevettefso for hardy let it as it is, but change it for Intrepid12:26
pitticrevette: I'm happy to add a Comment: field12:26
crevetteit won't break the string freeze ?12:26
pittichanging is worse than adding12:27
crevetteokay12:27
pittibut I need some guidance what Comment: should say12:27
crevetteyeah, I'm not sure which form to use12:27
crevetteNotify about new hardware drivers which are applicable to your system is fine12:27
crevetteor "Notifies about new hardware drivers which are applicable to your system"12:27
crevetteis there guideline ?12:28
pittiI don't know :(12:28
crevettefollowinf desktop entry spec it should be Notify12:29
crevettehttp://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/desktop-entry-spec-latest.html#comments12:30
crevette"Notify about new hardware drivers applicable to your system"12:31
crevetteit is shorter and have the same meaning, no ?12:31
* pitti <- no native speaker, but it sounds fine to me12:31
crevetteI'm fine with that at least12:32
crevetteand for printer applet i'd do 'View and control the jobs sent to printers'12:32
crevette:)12:32
crevettepitti, do I need to add a comment on the bug ?12:37
pitticrevette: please, so that I won't forget12:37
crevettepitti, can I confirmed the bug for jockey ?12:41
pitticrevette: yes, please12:41
crevetteassigned to you ?12:41
pitticrevette: sure; please set it to 'inprogress' while you are at it12:42
pitticrevette: merci12:42
crevetteah okay12:42
crevetteyou're welcome12:43
Hobbseecrevette: that's correct english usage12:46
Hobbseecrevette: although s/applicable/available/ would be better12:46
Hobbseecrevette: er, s/applicable to/available for/12:46
crevetteokay12:47
crevettethanks Hobbsee for the comment12:48
Hobbseecrevette: y/w12:48
ftaseb128, i'm doing pixman. there's no shlib symbol checking, can I add one ?12:53
seb128fta: what do you call checking? you mean it doesn't use a shlibs version? add one if that's required, ie if there is new functions in the api12:54
asacmvo: apturl apt:flashplugin-nonfree?section=multiverse ... does that work now?12:56
ftathere's no symbol file in the current/debian version. it's easier when there's one12:56
seb128fta: ah, you mean the new feature to list symbols? that's not required, not sure if that's the sort of changes we should introduce now but if you think that's useful feel free to add one12:58
asacmvo: bug 20872212:58
ubotuLaunchpad bug 208722 in firefox-3.0 "Firefox "intall missing pluging" leads to "Can not find 'flashplugin-nonfree'"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20872212:58
ftaseb128, i think it's good to have it, the sooner the better but if you think it will prevent the upload for this time, i'll wait12:59
ftaseb128, do we have a fix for bug 198759 / bug 20822413:03
ubotuLaunchpad bug 198759 in xkeyboard-config "Right CTRL don't work" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19875913:03
ubotuLaunchpad bug 208224 in xorg-server "[hardy] right ctrl key does nothing (french layout) (dup-of: 198759)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20822413:03
ftait's annoying on a laptop13:03
asacfta: i think bryce or tjaalton would know better13:04
ftaok, asking13:05
kwwiidholbach: who gave you the pdf casestudy files to put in example-content?13:08
kwwiidholbach: I found a spelling error in one file in the word Copyright (it says Cop7right)13:08
dholbachkwwii: they are at www.ubuntu.com/products/casestudies13:10
seb128fta: I don't think it'll prevent the upload no, so feel free to do the change13:10
ftaok, nice13:10
seb128fta: no, I've no real clue about xkeyboard-config13:10
seb128fta: and I never use the right ctrl13:11
seb128somebody should send that on bugzilla.freedesktop.org13:11
ftacjwatson is talking about that on -devel13:12
seb128right13:13
seb128and I agree with him, that seems to be an on purpose change13:13
seb128btw I don't agree with you that every french user expect the right ctrl to act as ctrl, I don't know a lot of people using this key13:14
seb128and I think it's rather mapped to compose or other things13:14
seb128might be useful if you a right-handed though13:14
ftaI use ctrl + left/right arrows to switch workplaces13:17
seb128I use ctrl-alt arrows13:18
seb128but my left hand is on the left ctrl and alt13:18
seb128and my right hand is on the arrows13:18
ftaI can do that with one hand13:18
seb128you are right hand trained apparently ;-)13:19
ftano13:19
seb128I expect most normal user to let this one on the mouse13:19
ftai'm left handed13:19
seb128doh13:19
seb128that's what I meant when I wrote right-handed before13:19
seb128right, it's useful for left handed people, that's why I think the "most user expect" comment is not really accurate13:20
seb128right-handed users tend to use this hand for the mouse and use the left hand for modifiers13:20
seb128anyway let's wait for the  upstream reply about the purpose of the change13:21
ftai tend to not use the mouse at all :)13:21
seb128you are not a basic user ;-)13:21
ftamost probably not13:21
huatsI have seen in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/TODO  : "update the yelp ubuntu layout " can anybody explain me a bit what it means ?13:31
ftathe (red) error message for bad auth in gdb is misplaced on my 1440x900 laptop, it's underneath the username field13:41
ftai mean gdm13:42
seb128fta: seems to be a theme bug13:43
ftadefault install13:44
ftafresh from ~2 weeks ago13:44
lapohi13:48
kwwiifta: that bug was fixed yesterday13:49
ftareally ? let me logout again :)13:50
kwwiifta: you would have to apply the updates from today13:50
fta2sure13:50
lapomvo: update manager icon, wouldn't it be better to use "system-software-update" icon when the package manager is working istead of the (badly scaled) desaturated "software-update-available"13:50
lapo?13:50
mvolapo: hm, that sounds like a plan, I want to make sure people see that there is something working and that its not the right time to run more software managment applications14:04
seb128fta: how is the libpixman update going?14:14
ftaoh, i'm done, i just need to open a bug14:15
ftabut there are api changes...14:15
seb128fta: could you do it now? I need to try cairo git for a bug and I would like to avoid redoing the libpixman work myself just to build cairo git ;-)14:16
ftahence the version bump14:16
seb128fta: api changes, like breakage and soname change? or new functions only?14:16
ftahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6464/14:17
ftathe thing is they support gcc visibility now so some symbols are now hidden14:18
seb128ok, so things should still be working, right?14:19
ftathat's why I wanted to add the symbol checking14:19
ftai hope so, but i cannot guaranty it14:19
Nafalloasac: agreed :-)14:22
Nafalloasac: re: pidgin vs. gajim14:22
seb128fta: none of those were in the .h apparently so that should be alright14:23
ftayes14:25
ftaand the 4 new symbols shouldn't hurt either14:25
seb128fta: do you have the debdiff somewhere then? I need it now14:25
ftadoing the bug right now14:25
seb128fta: yes, new symbols are no issue14:25
seb128fta: thanks14:25
ftabug 21178514:30
ubotuLaunchpad bug 211785 in pixman "Please sponsor pixman 0.10.0-0ubuntu1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21178514:30
ftaseb128, ^^14:31
ftadoing cairo now14:32
seb128fta: thanks14:35
lapomvo: I think the update icon would work, anyway for hardy+114:36
* mvo nods14:37
lapomvo: for hardy you should try to fix the scaling issue tho, looks like you desaturate just one size then scale it down14:37
lapomvo: so you get a fuxxy icon14:37
lapofuzzy even14:37
lapoor do you ship a desaturated icon?14:37
seb128fta: can you attach a debdiff between version including upstream changes and a diffstat and maybe the symbols diff you copied before on the bug?14:43
ftaok14:43
seb128fta: that will make easier to get the the approval14:44
seb128they will need to look at the changes14:44
ftait's a huge one14:44
fta500k14:45
seb128that's alright14:45
seb128they will want to look at it quickly14:45
mvolapo: no, I destaturate it on the fly, but its possible that this happens only once, I need to check14:45
seb128I expect most will be autotools, etc14:45
ftadone14:47
ftaformatting looks weird14:47
emberseb128 when you have time can you look at bug #21176914:47
ubotuLaunchpad bug 211769 in pidgin "FFe for Pidgin 2.4.1" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21176914:48
seb128ember: ok14:50
emberthanks.14:51
ftaseb128, bug 21179114:54
ubotuLaunchpad bug 211791 in cairo "Please sponsor cairo 1.5.16-0ubuntu1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21179114:54
ftatell me if you want me to change something in either pixman or cairo14:54
ftado you also need full debdiff for cairo ?14:54
seb128fta: no, cairo should be already, we are tracking 1.5 anyway14:56
seb128fta: btw what is the -c4 shlibdeps option about?15:36
ftamake it ftbfs if there's any difference in the symbol file15:37
ftaso the packager has to take a closer look15:37
ftait's good practice15:38
ftapreventing unchecked push15:38
seb128is that documented somewhere?15:38
seb128the dpkg-shlibdeps manpage lists no -c option15:38
ftaman dh_makeshlibs15:39
ftai mean dpkg-gensymbols15:39
seb128fta: ups, I was looking at dh_shlibdeps instead15:40
seb128thanks15:40
* pitti hugs asac for fixing metacity to get along with firefox link opening17:09
crevetteasac, did you get feedback from epi team to fix the cert problem ?17:22
wonko69hello all18:01
fernandohey all18:06
pochuhey fernando18:09
fernandohey pochu, how are you going?18:09
pochufernando: where have you been all this time? :)18:09
pochufernando: pretty good, thank you18:09
pochu(good or well?)18:09
pochufernando: what about you?18:10
fernandopochu, I was working hard and studying. now the project (work) done and have time =)18:12
* pochu really needs to study more...18:14
* fernando too18:20
fta_pochu, do you know that you have tracker 0.6.6-0ubuntu1 retrying your ppa since 2008-03-03 ?21:00
fta_+in your ppa21:00
Nafalloany ekiga person around?21:00
fta_pochu, a few zillions retries21:01
tedgCould someone try the GPM in my PPA to see if it fixes 193617?21:15
tedgI believe it does, but I'd like to test on more than one laptop.21:15
tedgHmm, everyone else gets the little bot to comment on their bug... how about #19361721:16
tedgErrr, LP: #19361721:16
* tedg is sad that ubotu dislikes me so.21:17
seb128tedg: bug #19361721:25
ubotuLaunchpad bug 193617 in gnome-power-manager "Hardy rhythmbox stops screen from blanking on laptop lid close" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19361721:25
tedgseb128: Heh, thanks.  I knew it had to be something like that :)21:26
=== fta_ is now known as fta
sistpotyseb128: around? we're just looking for delegates regarding freeze exceptions for universe onces final freeze starts. Would you like to deal with gnome related exceptions?23:05
seb128sistpoty: what work would I have to do? just ack or not the freeze break request?23:06
sistpotyseb128: yes23:06
sistpotyseb128: or give it back to motu-release (if not gnome-related)23:07
seb128sistpoty: I'm not sure I want to sign for extra mail? Is there a team subscribed to those or do you use tags or something?23:08
sistpotyseb128: well, we use ~motu-release for all motu-release bugs, but exceptions can happen on irc, too. Otherwise I'd request people to subscribe you to a bug.23:09
seb128sistpoty: oh, in fact we can use the team for that, subscribe ubuntu-desktop to those23:09
seb128I'll look at the list daily or something23:09
sistpotyseb128: ok, great. thanks!23:10
seb128and so other desktop team members can give a hand on those23:10
seb128sistpoty: you are welcome23:10
seb128tedg: you might want to ask for testing on #ubuntu-bugs or again next week, european friday evening is not the best time to get replies on this chan ;-)23:12
ftaseb128, about pixman, sync or sponsor ?23:12
ftaor merge ?23:13
tedgseb128: Yeah, I was thinking the same.  I'm hoping the poster of the bug will have time to test it this weekend.23:14
tedgseb128: It'd be nice if the OP said it works :)23:14
Nafalloseb128: hi :-)23:16
seb128tedg: right23:18
seb128Nafallo: hey23:18
Nafalloseb128: who is the main ekiga guy those days? :-)23:20
seb128Nafallo: nobody23:26
Nafalloseb128: hmm. that wasn't the answer I was looking for ;-)23:26
seb128fta: it needs to be approved by slangasek first, and I was going to upload your work first because you spent efforts on it and sync later, but we can sync directly if you think that's ok. Is there any ubuntu change required?23:26
ftaseb128, of course, i would prefer to see my work used instead of ignored. as for the ubuntu changes, I think the symbol file should stay. donno if debian has it now.23:29
seb128fta: they have from the changelog23:30
ftahmm23:30
seb128fta: ok, so I think we will wait for approval, upload your version next week (don't want to update a base lib while everybody is away for the weekend in case something is buggy) and we will sync later if there is no ubuntu change required23:31
ftaok23:31
seb128fta: btw you need to bump the shlibs version too23:37
ftai didn't ?23:37
ftapixman or cairo ?23:38
ftaoh, i see23:39
seb128<jcristau> seb128: re:211785, i'm not too sure about the symbols file in there. some enums changed between 0.9.6 and 0.10.0, so i think the version should be bumped for functions which use those23:39
seb128 but i'm talking about the debian/libpixman-1-0.symbols file23:39
seb128fta: maybe look at what they did for the debian update23:39
ftait's not yet on p.u.c and I no longer have any debian box23:41
seb128fta: dget http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/pixman/pixman_0.10.0-1.dsc?23:41
ftaseb128, well, the packaging has changed but the result is the same. I have the strict symbol checking that is not in debian23:52
seb128fta: what he was saying is that the pixman_format_code_t enum changed and that the function which use it should have their versioning updated to 0.1023:55
ftathen dpkg-gensymbols will fail with -c423:56
seb128why?23:57

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