[01:23] <c3rb3rus5> when is 8.04 slated to be released?
[01:23] <c3rb3rus5> nm.. 21 days it seems
[01:31] <ahave_> does anyone here use a homer run hdtv box?
[01:31] <ahave_> home*
[01:31] <c3rb3rus5> at the risk of sounding like i know nothing at all: if i install the 8.04 beta now, will i be able to update to the full version when that is released w/o reinstalling?
[01:31] <foxxbuntu> ahave_ yes
[01:32] <foxxbuntu> c3rb3rus5, yes
[01:32] <c3rb3rus5> sweet
[01:32] <ahave_> foxxbuntu, was it difficult to configure with mythtv? do you know of a link to set the system up?
[01:33] <foxxbuntu> ahave_ its easier than setting up most tuners
[01:33] <ahave_> oh?
[01:34] <ahave_> i read somewhere that i should upgrade it first
[01:34] <foxxbuntu> yep, Mythbuntu has the config util enabled by default so in mythtv-setup you can just select HDHR and create a capture device for each tuner on the HDHR, then you can scan for channels with it
[01:34] <foxxbuntu> ahave_, if you havent I would suggest it just for stability
[01:35] <foxxbuntu> heres how to upgrade it
[01:36] <foxxbuntu> cd /usr/src
[01:36] <foxxbuntu> wget http://download.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/hdhomerun_firmware_20080305.bin
[01:37] <foxxbuntu> hdhomerun_config discover
[01:37] <foxxbuntu> that will give you the ID of your HDHR
[01:37] <foxxbuntu> then:
[01:37] <foxxbuntu> hdhomerun_config <id> upgrade ./hdhomerun_firmware_20080305.bin
[01:38] <foxxbuntu> thats all there is to it ahave_
[01:39] <ahave_> ok
[01:42] <ahave> hmm
[01:43] <ahave> if i have 2 linksys routers chained together, would i have to do anything special to get the second router to see the internet?
[01:43] <ahave> static IPs?
[01:43] <foxxbuntu> what?
[01:44] <ahave> i have 2 routers on my network, i had to add an extra one to have enouth ethernet ports
[01:44] <foxxbuntu> I assume your just trying to use the switch on the seoncd?
[01:44] <ahave> yes
[01:44] <ahave> do i need to set it to 'switch only' mode?
[01:44] <foxxbuntu> you need to turn off NAT
[01:44] <c3rb3rus5> yea
[01:44] <foxxbuntu> er, switch only is what you need
[01:45] <ahave> well, is that considered router?
[01:45] <ahave> instead of gateway?
[01:45] <c3rb3rus5> the main ubuntu channel is like a flood of people
[01:45] <foxxbuntu> ahave, no, just a switch
[01:47] <ahave> foxxbuntu, ok. i am just having trouble finding that option in the linksys admin menu
[01:47] <c3rb3rus5> ahave: what model
[01:48] <ahave> wrt54g
[01:48] <c3rb3rus5> ahave: you should just be able to disable the dhcp server and that will put it into switch mode....  i might be mistaken
[01:49] <ahave> so instead of dhcp i should select what?
[01:49] <ahave> static IP?
[01:50] <c3rb3rus5> there is an option on the main page to disable the dhcp server on one....  i know i set this up before, i'm trying to refresh my memory
[01:52] <ahave> yes. i have disabled the dhcp server. but do i need to change the 'internet connection type' to something else other that DHCP?
[01:55] <c3rb3rus5> ahave: i honestly don't remember
[01:55] <c3rb3rus5> ahave: i would say yes.... is it working as it should now?
[01:56] <ahave> nope
[01:56] <c3rb3rus5> hrm
[01:56] <ahave> i feel like i need to set the IP to something different
[01:56] <ahave> like 192.168.2.1
[01:57] <ahave> so that it will be its own network
[01:58] <c3rb3rus5> how do you have the routers connected right now
[02:00] <ahave> internet<->cablemodem<->wrt54G#1<->wrt54g#2(into 'internet port')
[02:01] <c3rb3rus5> so so #1's WAN port is plugged into the modem, #2's WAN port is plugged into the ethernet ports of #1?
[02:01] <ahave> yes
[02:03] <c3rb3rus5> did you try setting it (#2) to a router instead of a gateway under advanced routing?
[02:06] <ahave> not with DHCP disabled
[02:07] <c3rb3rus5> the 2 routers are not set to the same IP address are they?
[02:07] <ahave> now i have made a much of things.. i chanaged the IP of the router and lost connection to it. so i did a hard restart and now it is acting very odd
[02:08] <c3rb3rus5> hows it acting odd?
[02:08] <ahave> as in i can not obtain an IP from it
[02:09] <c3rb3rus5> are you behine router 1 or 2?
[02:10] <ahave> i am using a laptop to connect to the internet right now through router 1
[02:10] <c3rb3rus5> the easiest way to get this to work is to disable the dhcp server on #2, and plug one of #2's ethernet ports into one of #1's eethernet ports
[02:10] <ahave> my mythtv box is under 2
[02:10] <c3rb3rus5> that should make use of the switch functionality of #2
[02:10] <ahave> oh
[02:10] <ahave> i have never heard of that
[02:11] <ahave> so do not plug in the ethernet of router1 into 'internet' of router2?
[02:11] <ahave> but instead plug the wire into one of the 4 output ports?
[02:13] <ahave> WOW. that worked
[02:13] <ahave> i have never heard of that before
[02:13] <ahave> sweet
[02:14] <ahave> thank you very much
[02:18] <c3rb3rus5> ahave: no prob
[02:19] <c3rb3rus5> the other way would be to use advanced routing settings with the way you had it set up.. i'm honestly not too sure how to set them up in practice
[02:25] <foxxbuntu> c3rb3rus5, the issue is with the firmware linksys provides you can't turn off NAT properly so you end up double natting, this causes a packaet failure between the devices
[02:30] <c3rb3rus5> yea?
[02:31] <c3rb3rus5> i remember setting it up once...
[02:31] <c3rb3rus5> on second thought i might have been using a different model they made
[02:31] <c3rb3rus5> and that same model failing shortly after
[02:31] <c3rb3rus5> :-/
[02:31] <c3rb3rus5> it was older
[02:32] <c3rb3rus5> i have been meaning to put openwrt on my wrt54g for a while now, never got around to it
[02:34] <c3rb3rus5> anyone here use virtualboxat all?
[02:43] <ahave> so now that i have the backend setup for HDhomerun, how can i select HD channels when watching liveTV?
[02:44] <foxxbuntu> ahave, did you scan for, and add the HD channels?
[02:44] <ahave> i was not able to find the HD tuner on the scan from source list
[02:47] <ahave> hmm, wait. i am scanning on the tunner now
[05:17] <guardoftheguards> Hey. Having problems setting up a Hauppauge PVR-350's video out.
[05:17] <guardoftheguards> I checked out this tutorial (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Gutsy_hardware_pvr-350_TV-out), but it's not working for me still.
[05:18] <guardoftheguards> I'm able to cat video to the device, but X won't start into it, seemingly ignoring my xorg.conf, and videos launched from the myth frontend result in initialization errors.
[05:21] <guardoftheguards> Anyone have that problem?
[08:58] <xukun> hi all. when I watch dvd with mythbuntu then I get two vertical lines and the movie is not full screen. If I play the same movie with player or vlc then its fullscreen
[09:00] <xukun> is there some kind of settings that I need to change in mythubuntu?
[09:17] <|DuReX|> hello, I got a new tv card, Hauppauge HVR-1300, seems like its getting seen perfectly in ubuntu dmesg output :http://pastebin.com/m61491e91  but I'm getting errors and can't use it :(
[10:20] <Tuv0k> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-security/Release  Unable to find expected entry  web/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[12:48] <|DuReX|> nboody awake ? :(
[12:56] <directhex|work> the hvr1300 is highly experiemntal
[12:56] <directhex|work> you probably want linuxtv hg
[12:57] <|DuReX|> doesn't work there neither :(
[13:00] <|DuReX|> there are tons of websites where people say it works perfectly
[13:00] <|DuReX|> but I can't get it working
[13:00] <|DuReX|> it gets seen perfectly etc
[13:00] <|DuReX|> but just error :(
[13:00] <|DuReX|> http://pastebin.com/m61491e91
[13:00] <|DuReX|> the dmesg
[13:02] <directhex|work> you're trying to use the mpeg encoder?
[13:02] <directhex|work> or the digital part?
[13:03] <|DuReX|> trying to get DVB-T working
[13:04] <|DuReX|> it gives those messages @ boot
[13:04] <|DuReX|> when I didn't even try to access the card
[13:05] <directhex|work> those messages look related to the mpeg encoder
[13:05] <directhex|work> cx88 is the digital-related chip
[13:08] <TelnetManta> do you guys support mythbuntu or ubuntu with myth installed from the repos?
[13:08] <directhex|work> TelnetManta, same difference
[13:08] <TelnetManta> about to build a new backend and wondered which I should install
[13:09] <TelnetManta> isnt mythbuntu an iso all in itself? myth already installed I mean.
[13:09] <directhex|work> yes
[13:09] <TelnetManta> ah, there we go, I found it :)
[13:10] <directhex|work> but all the packages in mythbuntu are in ubuntu's repositories
[13:10] <TelnetManta> I need to get the source code to apply some patches. guess I need to learn how to do that. I've always installed myth from source.
[14:15] <dergringo> hi
[14:15] <dergringo> Is this a goob board for a HTPC? http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/mainboards/motherboards.jsp?motherboard_id=550
[14:15] <dergringo> what do you think
[14:16] <directhex|work> via? the default answer is no
[14:16] <directhex|work> i shall now look at the url. i may laugh at you
[14:16] <directhex|work> epia. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[14:16] <dergringo> ?
[14:17] <directhex|work> c7 is bullshit & chips. it can't do htpc in standard def, let alone high def
[14:17] <|DuReX|> i installed latest linuxtv hg, but i'm getting: http://pastebin.com/m10375cf4
[14:17] <|DuReX|> any id's ?
[14:17] <dergringo> directhex|work: So what mini ITX boards do you recommend?
[14:18] <directhex|work> give http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=11976 a read to see how screaming fast epia is
[14:18] <directhex|work> dergringo, a mac mini's generally the best of breed for small form factor
[14:19] <directhex|work> |DuReX|, your module's crashed. talk to the linuxtv people about it
[14:21] <dergringo> directhex|work: It may be the best in some cases. But I need at least 3 hotswappable 3.5 HD slots. So I think this one would fit my benefits: http://www.mini-itx.com/store/?c=42
[14:21] <dergringo> Now I am looking for a board
[14:22] <dergringo> The one you linked is a pico-ITX board. And it is something really different that I am talking about
[14:22] <directhex|work> dergringo, my professional opinion, backed with experience, is that epia *cannot cope* with modern demands. 1ghz c7 is 1ghz c7 - still a million miles from what media needs
[14:23] <directhex|work> talk to any former epia owner in here, e.g. justinh, and you'll hear the same thing
[14:23] <directhex|work> what's a better choice? *anything else*
[14:23] <directhex|work> any board that isn't powered by an IDT WInChip is a reasonable choice
[14:24] <directhex|work> the intel D201GLY2, for example, with its screaming fast 1.2ghz celeron, will obliterate any hardware via has to offer, several times over
[14:25] <directhex|work> jetway, commell, anhd a few others will do "real" cpus on mini-itx form factor (if you want to pay for them)
[14:25] <directhex|work> i think aopen do too. i'd need to check
[14:26] <dergringo> Cool. Thanks. I tought VIA does a good job. Well I'll have a look at the others too.
[14:26] <directhex|work> via do a terrible job
[14:27] <directhex|work> look at it this way - a c7 running at 1ghz is 3x slower than an athlon64 running at 1ghz
[14:27] <dergringo> I just do not want to spend a lot of money, since I need raid disks and so. Else it's getting too expensive
[14:28] <directhex|work> if you want a NAS box, buy an off-the-shelf NAS box. if you want a media box, save up more money. a penny spent on epia is wasted money
[14:29] <directhex|work> aopen's range seems comprehensive - socket m, socket p, socket am2
[14:30] <dergringo> I don't want a off-the-shelf NAS. I need customized encryption using a USB token. I want full control over the system.
[14:32] <dergringo> is it possible to install linux on a aopen system?
[14:33] <directhex|work> why wouldn't it be?
[14:33] <dergringo>  	The IR / Remote Control of AOpen accessory is not supported under Windows XP and Windows XP MCE.
[14:33] <dergringo> so is it supported on linux?
[14:34] <directhex|work> which board is that?
[14:34] <dergringo> This is a full featured system: http://minipc.aopen.com/Global/spec.htm
[14:35] <directhex|work> the mac-mini-sized-and-shaped-but-slower-and-more-expensive mini aopen pc?
[14:36] <dergringo> lol
[14:36] <dergringo> exactly
[14:36] <directhex|work> supported in lirc cvs
[14:37] <Kevin`> that's probably better then my current mythtv system, but it's also brand new and mine is years old =p
[14:38] <dergringo> So you recomment these boards? http://www.aopen.de/Products.aspx?id=52
[14:39] <directhex|work> recommend is such a strong word. those are 2 possibilities worth considering, sure. like i said, anything not winchip-powered is worth a look
[14:39] <directhex|work> and a few people in here use aopen small form factor boards with intel cpus
[14:40] <dergringo> Serial ATA II Connector x 2    :(
[14:40] <dergringo> all of them
[14:41] <Kevin`> can those cases even fit more then 2 drives?
[14:43] <dergringo> Kevin`: http://www.mini-itx.com/store/?c=42  Can fit 6
[15:04] <dergringo> mhhh maybe I should just stick in a
[15:04] <dergringo> controller
[16:08] <fer_luck> howdy all
[16:08] <fer_luck> someone compiled the saa7134_alsa module for beta 8.04?
[16:13] <fer_luck> ?
[18:17] <keescook> say, has anyone checked if mythtvfs-fuse work with the current mythtv in hardy?  I really should check that.  :P
[19:00] <dergringo> directhex|work: http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/1308/1/page_1_introduction/index.html
[19:01] <dergringo> That does sound very good
[20:37] <EvilGuru> dergringo: Strange lack of firewire...
[20:41] <EvilGuru> I can understand the lack of optical audio out and DVI