[00:15] <ubotu> New bug: #211586 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "fglrx halts on Radeon HD 3850" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211586
[01:46] <ubotu> New bug: #211610 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "[fglrx] fglrx freezes randomly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211610
[01:47] <pwnguin> which team looks after gdm?
[06:39] <tjaalton> pwnguin: desktop-
[06:42] <bryce> heya pwnguin
[06:42] <pwnguin> hey
[06:42]  * pwnguin enjoys breaking more things
[07:53] <ubotu> New bug: #211689 in xorg (main) "segmentation fault in xorg 7.3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211689
[11:26] <ubotu> New bug: #205234 in linux-meta (main) "[Hardy] Atheros AR5418 chipset not supported (dup-of: 122703)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/205234
[11:27] <ubotu> New bug: #211457 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "ATI card glitchy in Hardy Heron Beta" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211457
[14:18] <dennda> bryce: Hopefully we can get a bit productive today :)
[14:41] <ubotu> New bug: #211785 in pixman (main) "Please sponsor pixman 0.10.0-0ubuntu1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211785
[14:41] <ubotu> New bug: #211787 in xorg (main) "Monitor not correctly detected anymore" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211787
[15:51] <ubotu> New bug: #205328 in ubuntu "[Hardy] strange opengl behaviour (dup-of: 199823)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/205328
[18:25] <ubotu> New bug: #211875 in ubuntu "keyboard layout (dup-of: 205314)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211875
[20:21] <ubotu> New bug: #211927 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "Very low refresh rate/fps and problems with 3d windows enabled" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211927
[20:47] <bryce> hah, just saw this in redhat's newest xrandr gui code:
[20:47] <bryce> +     * Firefox apparently believes what X tells it. It is a foolish
[20:47] <bryce> +     * application.
[21:06] <ubotu> New bug: #211948 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "Laptop screen brightness will no longer adjust" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211948
[21:25] <ubotu> New bug: #156730 in nvidia-settings "nvidia-settings package cannot be installed along with nvidia-glx-legacy" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/156730
[21:28] <ubotu> New bug: #205695 in xkeyboard-config (main) "french dvorak layout outdated" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/205695
[21:31] <ubotu> New bug: #211957 in xorg (main) "No way to type # on Mac keyboards." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211957
[21:41] <ubotu> New bug: #208357 in xscreensaver (main) "[fglrx] queens crashed with SIGSEGV (dup-of: 181121)" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/208357
[21:41] <ubotu> New bug: #210195 in xscreensaver (main) "ripples crashed with SIGSEGV in xcb_poll_for_event() (dup-of: 181121)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/210195
[21:41] <ubotu> New bug: #210593 in xscreensaver (main) "ripples crashed with SIGSEGV in xcb_poll_for_event() (dup-of: 181121)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/210593
[21:41] <ubotu> New bug: #210671 in xscreensaver (main) "[fglrx amd64] looking at different screen savers and crashed (dup-of: 181121)" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/210671
[21:41] <ubotu> New bug: #210721 in xscreensaver (main) "ripples crashed with SIGSEGV in xcb_poll_for_event() (dup-of: 181121)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/210721
[21:42] <ubotu> New bug: #180897 in xscreensaver (main) "[fglrx] glmatrix crashed with SIGSEGV (dup-of: 181121)" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180897
[21:42] <ubotu> New bug: #202658 in xscreensaver (main) "[fglrx amd64] glmatrix crashed with SIGSEGV in g_module_symbol() (dup-of: 181121)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/202658
[21:42] <ubotu> New bug: #203873 in xscreensaver (main) "[fglrx] engine crashed with SIGSEGV (dup-of: 181121)" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/203873
[21:42] <ubotu> New bug: #205565 in xscreensaver (main) "[fglrx] circuit crashed with SIGSEGV (dup-of: 181121)" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/205565
[21:42] <ubotu> New bug: #207069 in xscreensaver (main) "[fglrx amd64] ripples crashed with SIGSEGV in xcb_poll_for_event() (dup-of: 181121)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/207069
[21:42] <bryce> sorry... went on a duping spree there ;-)
[21:43] <ubotu> New bug: #178997 in xscreensaver (main) "[fglrx] antinspect crashed with SIGSEGV (dup-of: 181121)" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178997
[21:43] <ubotu> New bug: #179002 in xscreensaver (main) "[fglrx] glplanet crashed with SIGSEGV (dup-of: 181121)" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179002
[21:44] <jcristau> bryce: 207069 doesn't seem to be GL-related?
[21:45] <bryce> ok
[22:29] <jcristau> any particular reason for forking pixman instead of syncing it? (lp#211785)
[22:56] <tjaalton> jcristau: I advised to sync it..
[22:56] <tjaalton> seeing you uploaded it a while earlier
[22:57] <jcristau> ok
[22:57] <jcristau> i had it ready in git for a while, just didn't get around to uploading
[23:06] <bryce> I posted the -intel quirks I've been gathering up to xorg - https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15353
[23:06] <ubotu> Freedesktop bug 15353 in Driver/intel "Quirks for -intel from Ubuntu/Dell" [Normal,New] 
[23:07] <bryce> jcristau: the above patch applies against xorg git
[23:07] <jcristau> right i've seen that on xorg-team :)
[23:08] <tjaalton> hmh, so our nvidia-glx-new is busted somehow.. using the installer there are no pink shadows with compiz etc
[23:08] <tjaalton> need to test it myself now
[23:11] <bryce> I have a packaging question...
[23:11] <bryce> I've got three packages which somewhat interdepend on each other - gnome-desktop, gnome-settings-daemon, and gnome-control-center
[23:12] <bryce> the latter two link to the first.  g-c-c relies on g-s-d to make changes
[23:12] <bryce> most of the logic is in gnome-desktop, so most of my code changes are there
[23:12] <seb128> jcristau: the reason is that is was updated for ubuntu first without knowing how long it would take for debian
[23:13] <bryce> I've made a change to gnome-desktop to add a new capability, that gnome-control-center now uses
[23:13] <bryce> no changes are needed in gnome-settings-daemon; it just needs to be rebuilt against the newer gnome-desktop
[23:14] <bryce> is the correct approach to change the build-depends for gnome-settings daemon?
[23:14] <bryce> or do I just need to bump it as a -XbuildY?
[23:14] <seb128> tjaalton: we will likely sponsor the contributor update first because he put work on it and we will sync later
[23:14] <tjaalton> seb128: hmm, ok
[23:15] <tjaalton> the five minutes of fame :)
[23:15] <seb128> tjaalton: you don't want to discourage them contributing ;-)
[23:15] <jcristau> seb128: well as i said the package was ready 5 days ago
[23:16] <seb128> jcristau: well, not everybody is tracking all the dcsv around
[23:16] <jcristau> but ok, just bad luck
[23:16] <seb128> right
[23:16] <seb128> no big deal, just a bit extra work for this contributor
[23:16] <jcristau> yup
[23:17] <seb128> bryce: why does it need to be rebuild if no change are required, there is no static lib used there, a rebuild should make no difference?
[23:20] <bryce> seb128: gnome-settings-daemon has a build-depends against libgnome-desktop-dev.  Doesn't it statically link against it?
[23:20] <jcristau> that would be broken
[23:20] <bryce> ??
[23:21] <bryce> so you're saying it dynamically links and things will automatically update, and I don't need to worry about doing anything to gnome-settings-daemon
[23:22] <jcristau> gnome-settings-daemon depends on libgnome-desktop-2
[23:22] <bryce> in the gnome-settings-daemon control file is "Build-Depends: ... libgnome-desktop-dev (>= 1:2.21.92-0ubuntu2), ..."
[23:23] <jcristau> bryce: well yeah, if you want to link with a lib you need to have the .so around at linking time
[23:23] <jcristau> and that's in the -dev package
[23:25] <seb128> bryce: right, ldd binary will tell you what libs it's using
[23:25] <seb128> bryce: we don't use libs statically that would increase usage and force to update every copy to fix issues
[23:27] <bryce> ok great
[23:28] <tjaalton> damnit, no build log from the nvidia-installer
[23:34] <jcristau> seb128: re:211785, i'm not too sure about the symbols file in there. some enums changed between 0.9.6 and 0.10.0, so i think the version should be bumped for functions which use those
[23:34] <jcristau> (these things make me somewhat nervous)
[23:34] <seb128> jcristau: are you saying they broke ABI?
[23:36] <jcristau> no. i'm saying they added stuff to the pixman_format_code_t enum.
[23:36] <seb128> ah
[23:36] <jcristau> so if an app uses the new ones, it should get a versioned dependency on libpixman-1-0 (>= 0.10.0)
[23:37] <seb128> right, the shlibs should be bumped
[23:37] <jcristau> the shlibs should be bumped anyway because of the new functions
[23:37] <seb128> right, thanks for pointing it
[23:38] <jcristau> and afaict fta did that
[23:38] <jcristau> but i'm talking about the debian/libpixman-1-0.symbols file
[23:44] <jcristau> (shlibs is ignored by dpkg-shlibdeps if there's a symbols file)
[23:46] <seb128> ok, thanks for the comments, I told him about the issue
[23:46] <jcristau> thanks
[23:46] <seb128> I have not played with the new symbols thing yet so I didn't know
[23:47] <seb128> I think I'll just upload his version briefly so it's listed on -changes and sync on debian ;-)
[23:48] <seb128> so everything should be already, he'll get credit for his work and we will be in sync again
[23:49] <jcristau> sounds good :)