[00:00] <CareBerry> 1024MB is 1 gb?
[00:00] <alan_m> Careberry, yes exactly
[00:00] <hauk> CareBerry: yes
[00:00] <Pelo> WildChil17, realy ?  try opening totem and selecting dvd from the file menu , it usualy works for me,
[00:00] <CareBerry> im learning :)
[00:00] <binarical-app> jaggy: can you tell me, do you know how to work the command line ? or is there something like x installed
[00:00] <Pelo> CareBerry,  stop that right now
[00:00] <alan_m> CareBerry: so am i aparently :P
[00:00] <jaggy> binarical-app, i <3 the command line
[00:00]  * Pelo will become redundant if ppl start learning 
[00:01] <CareBerry> need to reboot
[00:01] <CareBerry> brb
[00:01] <hauk> Pelo: Also it's saying it's going to remove compiz =/
[00:01] <Pelo> hauk, let it, you can reinstall it after if you need to
[00:01] <hauk> Will it affect current themes and settings?
[00:01] <binarical-app> jaggy: i <3 the cli t oo
[00:02] <binarical-app> jaggy: okay so you just want it to run you scripts
[00:02] <Pelo> hauk, depnds on how compiz dependent your theme is
[00:02] <jaggy> binarical-app, yes, exactly
[00:02] <hauk> Pelo: I've ran it there. We'll see how it goes :)
[00:02] <binarical-app> jaggy: ummm so what kind of scripts do you want running
[00:02] <Pelo> hauk, I don't know anyway to avoid it ,   just do it , and if/when you reinstall compiz  your compiz settings should still be availalbe
[00:02] <jaggy> php mainly
[00:03] <hauk> Pelo: Ah don't worry about it. It was more of a query than anything else.
[00:03] <binarical-app> jaggy: so youd basicly like to configure php to run one of your nicely written scripts?
[00:03] <nomopofomo> does anybody ever get black windows in ubuntu?
[00:03] <binarical-app> jaggy: hey man thats what im trying to learn myself
[00:03] <hauk> nomopofomo: Yes. Happened today actually on startup. I just re-booted and it was fine.
[00:04] <Pelo> nomopofomo, balck windows ?  try turning off the destkop effects
[00:04] <jaggy> :p
[00:04] <Moppa> Hi, i followed this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=400236 , compiling went fine but when running sudo modprobe /r rt73usb my system froze and i had to reboot. when i did, i couldn\t get past the bootsequence
[00:04] <nomopofomo> Pelo,  okay
[00:04] <Moppa> im now on my system using a live/cd
[00:04] <SisyphusINC> is there a channel dedicated to wine somewhere i did #wine but it was empty
[00:04] <Pelo> Moppa, what is that link about ?
[00:04] <Starnestommy> SisyphusINC: it's #winehq
[00:04] <Pelo> SisyphusINC, #winehq
[00:04] <Moppa> Pelo: recompiling new rt73 wireless dirvers
[00:05]  * Pelo thinks SisyphusINC has a depressing nick 
[00:05] <SisyphusINC> Pelo: Starnestommy: thank you
[00:05] <binarical-app> jaggy: so i guess well sit here quietly till we find someone who know
[00:05] <WildChil17> Pelo: ther is no dvd menu :S
[00:05] <binarical-app> *s
[00:05] <Pelo> Moppa, over my head I'M afraid, try booting the recovery mode, from the grub menu ( esc after the bios stuff if you don'T usualy see it )
[00:05] <WildChil17> Pelo: when I try open file... and that's just it
[00:06] <Moppa> Pelo: didnt work, same there
[00:06] <jaggy> binarical-app, :p well, i'm f***ing around to get it working, so i'll tell you when it's done
[00:06] <Pelo> WildChil17, are you sure this dvd has a menu ?   check in the goto menu in totem
[00:06] <SisyphusINC> Pelo: tis the nature of my school schedual steady ramp starting at 19 hrs will get 32 hrs credit this semester
[00:06] <WildChil17> Pelo: yes it has a menu becouse one vob has like 'choose episode'
[00:06] <Pelo> WildChil17, you wonT' get the menu if you open a vob file,  you need to play the dvd as you would in a stand alone player
[00:06] <WildChil17> Pelo: yes I know but I don't know how to open it like this :s
[00:07] <Moppa> anyone else?
[00:07] <binarical-app> jaggy: i found some interesting php tuts that im looking at
[00:07] <Moppa> Hi, i followed this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=400236 , compiling went fine but when running sudo modprobe /r rt73usb my system froze and i had to reboot. when i did, i couldn\t get past the bootsequence
[00:07] <jaggy> binarical-app, linky?
[00:07] <Pelo> WildChil17, I'm lost here, what happens when , from scratch,  you open totem and select  dvd from the file menu ?
[00:08] <binarical-app> jaggy:http://www.computer-books.us/php.php
[00:08] <jaggy> binarical-app, ty
[00:08] <Pelo> Moppa, can you select a kernel from the grub menu ? maybe you need to have grub point to your newly created kernel image in order to boot from it
[00:08] <Killer|> hi
[00:09] <Moppa> Pelo: how do you mean?
[00:09] <binarical-app> np jaggy
[00:09] <WildChil17> Pelo: nevermind... the first time I've opened it frozen but now works
[00:10] <Gun_Smoke> is there a 64bit irc channel?
[00:10] <WildChil17> Pelo: thanx for your help :=
[00:10] <WildChil17> :)
[00:10] <Pelo> Moppa, mount your hdd from the live cd ,  ,  check in /boot/grub/menu.lst ,  find the entry for booting ubuntu,   ( first one without comment # ) ,  then see whre that entry points,   check to make sure that it does find the correct kernel on your hdd,  do you get me ?
[00:10] <Starnestommy> Gun_Smoke: this channel is for 32-bit and 64-bit
[00:10] <Pelo> WildChil17, congrats,
[00:10] <Killer|> i have a question, can somebody tell me how to copy a file with the terminal to a folder that can only be accesed with root-status ? i tested "sudo cp...." but it doesnt work
[00:10] <GIn> I think Ubuntu should drop Pidgin and use galaxium instead. :\
[00:10] <deniz__> LjL, wat did u say b4 (i finished my fone call)
[00:11] <Pelo> Killer|, sudo cp source desitination
[00:11] <LjL> deniz__, not sure i remember
[00:11] <Pelo> Killer|, make sure you hvae the correct spelling ,  and remember that linux is case sensitive
[00:11] <deniz__> LjL, it was on the topic of converting pdf to jpegs
[00:11] <deniz__> LjL, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=743618
[00:12] <Pelo> Killer|,  you also need to provide the full /path/nameoffile in the destinamtion portion
[00:12] <HorizonXP> so I've been an Ubuntu user for almost 1.5 years now
[00:12] <LjL> deniz__: ah yes, install the "netpbm" package, and « pdftoppm filename.pdf | ppmtojpeg filename.jpeg »
[00:12] <SerenadedAbyss> Umm... I need help with my sound... I can't get it to work.
[00:12] <Pelo> HorizonXP, time to change your nick then
[00:12] <armory555> dose any kno a free pc-landline phone software or sumthing?
[00:12] <bhsx> how do i set ubuntu so that other users (my daughter and wife) can mount the windows partition (/dev/sda1 or /media/sda1) automatically?
[00:12] <binarical-app> lol
[00:12] <HorizonXP> Pelo: XP is my initials :P
[00:12] <LjL> deniz__: and if you want to do that for all .pdf files in a directory, « for file in *.pdf ; do pdftoppm $file | ppmtojpeg >$(basename $file .pdf).jpeg »
[00:12] <HorizonXP> I was wondering if people had any advice for getting my gf to switch to Ubuntu on her laptop
[00:13] <LjL> deniz__: (actually, i forgot a > before filename.jpeg in the first one)
[00:13] <binarical-app> xp: thats something that just has to be decided
[00:13] <ampex2> HorizonXP: why do you care what OS she uses?
[00:13] <Pelo> HorizonXP, did you get her to try it on your comp ?
[00:13] <Moppa> Pelo: http://pastebin.com/m55f9614b what you asked for in menu.lst
[00:13] <HorizonXP> she wants me to format it and reinstall WinXP on it when exams are done. Hardy Heron's out at the same time, so I thought it might be a good idea
[00:13] <binarical-app> xp: avoid hardy
[00:13] <Pelo> Moppa, does this file exist on your hdd ? /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic
[00:14] <binarical-app> xp: especially for a noob like your girlfriend, she will hate you
[00:14] <HorizonXP> Pelo: I have got her to try it, she likes it, says it looks cool, but is worried about things breaking (she sees me in the cmd line a lot, so yeah...)
[00:14] <evil_tech> is there a way to copy a Mac Install DVD in Linux?
[00:14] <Pelo> Moppa, and this one /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
[00:14] <HorizonXP> binarical-app: what's wrong with Hardy? I'm using it now. and I'm waiting until it's released
[00:14] <armory555> how can i install pointers?
[00:14] <Moppa> Pelo: Yes, it does
[00:15] <hatta> Pelo: k3b has facilities to make disk images
[00:15] <binarical-app> XP: well i gave it a run a run a while back. it was real nice at first then alot of bugs started popping up
[00:15] <Pelo> HorizonXP, if she has room on her hdd,   get her to dual boot or even you can try the webui thingy ,  from inside windows,   that might get her use to it ,
[00:15] <deniz__> LjL, for first command: "« pdftoppm filename.pdf | ppmtojpeg a > filename.jpeg »"?
[00:15] <Pelo> hatta, wrong person
[00:15] <binarical-app> Xp: besides if you wanna talk about hardy yourin the wrong room
[00:15] <HorizonXP> Pelo: those are two very good ideas
[00:15] <ph_softnet> hi losers
[00:15] <hatta> oh
[00:15] <LjL> deniz__: without the "a"... just ">" :)
[00:15] <HorizonXP> Pelo: I think Wubi might be better, she might get 'scared' by the dual-booting
[00:16] <LjL> deniz__: and without the «quotes» for that matter
[00:16] <jonoini> alguien del pais vasco
[00:16] <HorizonXP> binarical-app: I'm not talking about hardy per se, just getting someone to switch to ubuntu. I think this room is perfect for that.
[00:16] <HorizonXP> binarical-app: And Hardy's is coming along nicely
[00:16] <Pelo> Moppa, then I suspect that you compiled the kernel wrong,  or missed some step in there ,  and that is over my head,  either clean install and try again or wait for someone who know s the fix ,  I think the first opiton is quicker ,
[00:17] <Moppa> ok
[00:17] <ph_softnet> why would anyone want to build a kernel?
[00:17] <Pelo> Moppa,  just put your /home folder on a seperate partiton and you won'T loose any settings and data
[00:17] <Moppa> already backing up data...
[00:17] <Moppa> ok
[00:17] <bod_> ph_softnet, cause they think they have an improvement upon someone elses kernel?
[00:17] <Moppa> Pelo: can that be arranged now from here_
[00:17] <Pelo> HorizonXP, you can also check out here laptop model in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport and in the forum to see if there are any isses,
[00:17] <Moppa> ?
[00:17] <hatta> Pelo: so they can patch it
[00:17] <evil_tech> anyone know of a way to copy a Mac OSX install DVD from linux
[00:17] <alienseer23> from the terminal, how do I add a new user? (forgot log in)
[00:17] <hatta> evil_tech: try k3b, it can make disk images
[00:17] <DariusTheoNoir> ph_softnet, different users may wish to remove unneeded (or unwanted) kernel modules
[00:18] <ph_softnet> bod_, so you must be talking about kernel developers
[00:18] <ph_softnet> DariusTheoNoir, why remove them/
[00:18] <ph_softnet> ?
[00:18] <bod_> not necessarily
[00:18] <HorizonXP> Pelo: you're full of awesome ideas. but I think hers is an Asus, which may be 'custom', so.... no idea which it'd be
[00:18] <evil_tech> ive tried brasero (im ingnome) k3b isnt going to make my sytem throw a fit is it?
[00:18] <DariusTheoNoir> well...from what I have heard, some users may wish to optimize their platforms for certain tasks
[00:18] <hatta> I dunno, it works well for me
[00:18] <DariusTheoNoir> kernels which are too bloated might be a cause for concern
[00:19] <Pelo> Moppa, yes you can do that from the live cd,  actualy its the only way you can do it ,  jsut resize your current  ubuntu partiton to make as much room as you cna,  then use the unallocated space to create a new ext3 partiton, the mount both partiton and copy the /home folder over , you cna the reinstall ubuntu on your original / partiton ,
[00:19] <hatta> you can also just use cdrdao on the command line
[00:19] <Moppa> ok, thx
[00:19] <DariusTheoNoir> Pelo, resizing partitions still require several defragmentation stages for the ntfs?
[00:19] <hatta> evil_tech: http://linuxreviews.org/howtos/cdrecording/
[00:19] <hatta> that should get you started
[00:20] <ph_softnet> optimize by rebuilding the kernel?they must really have a thorough knowledge of compiler scheduling and low level details ...cool..
[00:20] <Pelo> HorizonXP, I'm not all tah keen on the webui install myself, it's kind of a virtual/image of ubuntu,  she realy won'T be able to upgrade from it and instlling ubuntu after ward probably wn'T let her migrate her settings
[00:20] <DariusTheoNoir> I dual-boot XPHomeSp2 and ubuntu
[00:20] <DariusTheoNoir> two ways
[00:20] <HorizonXP> Pelo: yeah.. something to look into though :D
[00:20] <DariusTheoNoir> either clean install xp and resize...then follow Pelo's steps above
[00:20] <legend2440> evil_tech: dd if=/dev/dvd of=~/mac.iso
[00:20] <Pelo> DariusTheoNoir, I would defrag ntfs a few times before resizing it yes,  it just makes the process quicker, less stuff to move aroun d
[00:20] <pharoh> #compiz-fusion
[00:20] <DariusTheoNoir> or (risky) defrag existing xp install, resize and then follow Pelo's steps above
[00:20] <CareBare> ok guys
[00:20] <CareBare> i think i finally got ubuntu installed
[00:20] <deniz__> LjL, is this: "for file in *.pdf ; do pdftoppm $file | ppmtojpeg >$(basename $file .pdf).jpeg" a command?
[00:21] <HorizonXP> DariusTheoNoir: I do the same on my machine, but I'm debating whether dual-booting would be "scary" to my girlfriend or not
[00:21] <Pelo> DariusTheoNoir, we are not taking about  a dual boot instal we are talkinga bout reintalling ubuntu
[00:21] <LjL> deniz__: unless i've messed up something
[00:21] <DariusTheoNoir> Pelo, my mistake
[00:21] <hatta> yes that's a command
[00:21] <evil_tech> going to try using DD
[00:21] <legend2440> evil_tech: dd if=/dev/dvd of=~/mac.iso
[00:21] <deniz__> LjL, well ill test now, it just installed
[00:22] <LjL> deniz__: ah but yes, i've messed up something, because pdftoppm does output to stdout, but rather creates one ppm file for each page in the pdf
[00:22]  * Pelo is frighten of dd, some commands weren'T meant for human beings 
[00:22] <ehazlett> greetings...  how do i enable compiz with a custom graphics driver installed (not from repos)
[00:22] <pirate_Hunter> Pelo: :D
[00:22] <hatta> if you don't like dd, you can use cat too
[00:22] <hatta> cat /dev/dvd > dvd.iso
[00:22] <DariusTheoNoir> Dual booting isn't scary...grub gives you options before you boot...so if its scary, just highlight whatever's under "other operating systems" (i.e. XP etc) and go
[00:22] <Pelo> ehazlett, should be the same,  just try  menu > sytdem > prefs > apearance > last tab ,
[00:23] <DariusTheoNoir> might be scary to set it up though
[00:23] <ehazlett> Pelo:  when i do, it wants to install the driver from the repositories...
[00:23] <Pelo> ehazlett, which driver ?
[00:23] <armory555> dose any one kno good free games? lol im looking for preety good ones
[00:23] <ehazlett> Pelo: ati
[00:23] <ehazlett> Pelo: i can't use the repositories because i have a latitude xt -- it needs a later driver to work...
[00:23] <SerenadedAbyss> Can anyone help me?
[00:23] <Pelo> armory555, check in add/remove  , frozen buttle is pretty addictive,  and penguin planet racer gives me nasea
[00:24] <armory555> pelo ok ty!
[00:24] <Pelo> ehazlett,  you probably need xgl ,  I'm not sure which pakcage for ati tho try asking in #compiz they will know
[00:24] <mazaf> how can i type Unicode characters like in windows when you use numlock and the alt key?
[00:24] <ehazlett> Pelo:  when i first installed the driver, the effects worked.  when i updated, it went back to no effects
[00:24] <DariusTheoNoir> From what I read in the forums, ATI doesn't play well with compiz
[00:24] <Pelo> mazaf, I don't know anyone who figured it out yet
[00:24] <katella> huzaa! I get to pester pelo again!
[00:25]  * Pelo runs away from katella 
[00:25] <DariusTheoNoir> SerenadedAbyss: just post your question
[00:25] <slipttees> http://pastebin.ca/970292
[00:25] <Pelo> katella, what's down this thim e?
[00:25] <LjL> deniz__: updated version: « for PDFfile in *.pdf; do pdftoppm $PDFfile out_$PDFfile ; for PPMfile in out_$PDFfile* do; ppmtojpeg $PPMfile >$(basename $PPMfile .ppm).jpeg; done; done »
[00:25] <slipttees> please, gdm don't start'up
[00:25] <slipttees> :-(
[00:25] <LjL> deniz__: or, use imagemagick anyway... but i really don't know the syntax for that
[00:26] <Starnestommy> slipttees: you may need to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[00:26] <Pelo> slipttees,  stuck in promtp mode ?  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg,  pick all the default options unless yo absolutely know better
[00:26] <katella> Pelo: I'm trying to get my internal sound chip on my Athlon to run sound still. I know the codec/driver I need, but when I get to the "cd alsa-driver<insert alsa version, if necessary>" it says no such file or directory
[00:26] <slipttees> hum, ok ok i try
[00:26] <deniz__> LjL, :'(....nothing is working
[00:27] <katella> of course I did it without the <insert alsa version> thingy
[00:27] <armory555> #games
[00:27] <LjL> deniz__: "nothing is working" doesn't help, error messages help.
[00:27] <SerenadedAbyss> Does anyone know how to get sound working on a Toshiba Satellite A205?
[00:27] <Pelo> katella, check in synaptic , do a search for alsa and see what packages come up , see if there is one that is appended with someting that looks like your driver name
[00:27] <Pelo> !sound | SerenadedAbyss
[00:27] <ubotu> SerenadedAbyss: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[00:28] <deniz__> LjL, i herd remote desktop is a thing like windows xp that allows others to control my comp
[00:28] <deniz__> LjL, could u help me thru that?
[00:28] <katella> Pelo: Synaptic?
[00:28] <johansja> how to add medibuntu repositories in 8.04?
[00:28]  * Pelo hopes noone ever finds out he's useless with hardware related issues
[00:28] <DariusTheoNoir> Pelo, who is?
[00:28] <LjL> deniz__: i doubt it, i've never used it, and you don't really want to let random people access your computer like that anyway.
[00:28] <SerenadedAbyss> er..thanks
[00:28] <Pelo> katella, menu > system > admin > synaptic pakcage manager , if you are using gnome,   adept if you are using kde
[00:29] <Pelo> SerenadedAbyss, it's the best way to start with sound trouble shooting
[00:29] <CareBerry> the system just locked on me =(
[00:29] <Pelo> CareBerry, what were you doing ?
[00:30] <deniz__> LjL, can we start from the begining and can u put commands without quotes etc in its own message?
[00:30] <LjL> sigh, can't you strip the quotes?
[00:30] <LjL> for PDFfile in *.pdf; do pdftoppm $PDFfile out_$PDFfile ; for PPMfile in out_$PDFfile* do; ppmtojpeg $PPMfile >$(basename $PPMfile .ppm).jpeg; done; done
[00:30] <armory555> is there a way to for the Num Luck key on even while booting?
[00:31] <CareBerry> is there anyway to update from the terminal?
[00:31] <Pelo> armory555, chck in your bios settings
[00:31] <CareBerry> i think the gui updater is locking me up
[00:31] <DariusTheoNoir> TIP:  If you have the current everyman's platform (i.e. toshiba, dell, etc) then chances are someone has run into the problem before.  I find the ubuntu forums EXTREMELY helpful.  Almost all of my issues have been resolved within 10 minutes of searching through documentation
[00:31] <armory555> pelo ok ty
[00:31] <legend2440> SerenadedAbyss: http://taufanlubis.wordpress.com/2007/11/26/fix-no-sound-for-ubuntu-in-toshiba-satellite-a205-s4707/
[00:31] <LjL> armory555: look at the file /etc/console-tools/config
[00:31] <SerenadedAbyss> legend2440, I tried that and I get stuck.
[00:32] <LjL> Pelo: i think the BIOS setting is overridden by linux when it boots
[00:32] <legend2440> SerenadedAbyss: yea it looks pretty complicated
[00:32] <katella> pelo: snd-ac97-codec is the module for my sound chip, but nothing I try to do seems to properly load it so far
[00:32] <Pelo> LjL, didn'T happen to me,  adn I don'T think I had to specify numlock on anywhere in ubuntu,  but it's been a while
[00:33] <Pelo> katella, do you see it in lsmod ?
[00:33] <katella> Pelo:Yay! more looking!
[00:33] <BarryToeman> Would XFS not be good on older hardware for any reason? P2 400 MHz 384MB ram
[00:33] <CareBerry> Hi i finally got ubuntu installed but i think the updater is locking up my machine, is it possible to update from the terminal?
[00:34] <binarical-app> try : sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade.
[00:34] <katella> pelo: so. yet another new noob question. what's an ismod?
[00:34] <Pelo> katella, type lsmod in a terminal
[00:34] <nikin> hy
[00:34] <katella> pelo: I'll drive you insane soon after I take that short trip
[00:35] <sweetsinse> LiSt MODules
[00:35] <amenado> CareBerry-> yes its possible from a terminal, however you can only have one synaptic running or the apt-get install running
[00:35] <Pelo> katella, newer n00bs then you have tried and failed
[00:35] <knobcottage> hello... new here
[00:35] <katella> Pelo: Was that ismod or Lsmod?
[00:36] <Pelo> katella, lsmod  as in LS ,  remember that linux is case sensitive
[00:36] <Pelo> unop, I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel
[00:36] <Pelo> hello knobcottage ,  ask and we will try to answer
[00:36] <CareBerry> binarical-app: hmm it said permissioned denied then asked if i was root, sudo doesn't give me root permissions?
[00:36] <katella> pelo: I don't see it there
[00:36] <knobcottage> here goes newbie stuff
[00:36] <unop> Pelo, I wonder if you can give me a hand helping a blind person setup wireless - i'm kinda stuck
[00:36] <DariusTheoNoir> lsmod is short for "list modules"  -- correct?
[00:36] <knobcottage> I am new to ubuntu and decided to mess around with teh graphics and broke it
[00:37] <Pici> DariusTheoNoir: yes
[00:37] <DariusTheoNoir> knobcottage...you'll have to be more specific
[00:37] <katella> pelo: trying to load the stuff for my soundcard and seeing if it shows in lsmod
[00:37] <Pelo> katella, ok you'll need to load it using modprobe, but's I'm not all that familiar with it , I think it's sudo modprobe namehere,  man modprobe for more info
[00:37] <amenado> unop-> where are you stucked?
[00:37] <DariusTheoNoir> many ways to mess around with graphics
[00:37] <knobcottage> I have an FL91 AND BASICALLY TRIED TO ENABLE THE SECOND MON ITOR
[00:37] <DariusTheoNoir> fglrx is one of them
[00:38] <knobcottage> oops caps
[00:38] <Pelo> unop, forgive the pun but that would be the blind leading the blind,  I don'T know much about wifi , in fact almost nothing
[00:38] <Pelo> !wifi > unop this is the best I can do for you , check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[00:38] <Teoz> I made a script boot up when ubuntu boots with the update-rc.d command
[00:38] <unop> amenado, it's not me, i'm helping another person out
[00:38] <Pelo> !dualhead | knobcottage
[00:38] <ubotu> knobcottage: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[00:38] <Teoz> how do I remove it now ? :P
[00:39] <knobcottage> messed it all up and it would not start with graphic gui unless I plugged in the second monitor
[00:39] <amenado> unop-> okay, but at what point are you guys stucked at?
[00:39] <knobcottage> yes now its none head
[00:39] <DariusTheoNoir> check your network-admin and configure settings there (if they show up)
[00:39] <katella> pelo: sudo modprobe snd-ac97-codec to be exact. only I did that earlier and it still didn't make things work
[00:39] <Pelo> Teoz, look for it in menu > system > prefs < session, or try in /home/username/.config/autostart or , look for it in the rc levels in /etc
[00:40] <LjL> unop, still explain where you're/they're stuck, that's your best bet imho
[00:40] <nikin> Hy is there a wy to mount zip files? i have some havily compressable files about 21000 in a 68 Mb zip file. extracted size is around 500 MB
[00:40] <katella> Pelo: However, it is showing up in lsmod now
[00:40] <ahyuwhiye> how can i mute my fucking beeper?
[00:40] <DariusTheoNoir> I am noticing a pattern---users tend to mess around with graphics and display and end up getting barred from their system UI
[00:40] <Pelo> katella, try the sound now
[00:40] <HorizonXP> hey, is there a guide to building a computer that will be 100% OSS compatible with Ubuntu?
[00:40] <LjL> !language | ahyuwhiye
[00:40] <ubotu> ahyuwhiye: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[00:40] <knobcottage> yeah I can get there but I believe I have a intel 935 card but it wont accept it I can only get a generic vesa monitor
[00:40] <Pelo> ahyuwhiye, prefs > sounds
[00:40] <LjL> ahyuwhiye: one way is to blacklist the "pcspkr" module
[00:40] <Teoz> Pelo, ok then I'll plunge into the rc levels
[00:40] <ahyuwhiye> how?
[00:40] <katella> Pelo: Going into sound preferences and clicking test, I get an error "audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat: Could not open resource for writing."
[00:40] <DariusTheoNoir> TIP: don't play with display and graphics unless you have a way to "back out" of all changes via terminal
[00:40] <Pelo> HorizonXP, just build one with only intel chipsets
[00:40] <LjL> !blacklist | ahyuwhiye
[00:40] <ubotu> ahyuwhiye: To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add « blacklist <modulename> » to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type « sudo update-initramfs -u »
[00:41] <Pelo> Teoz, start witht the higher levels first
[00:41] <HorizonXP> Pelo: That's what I thought... so Intel motherboard, Intel integrated, and I should be good?
[00:41] <knobcottage> good tip darius but to late
[00:41] <ahyuwhiye> wow you can type fast
[00:41] <ahyuwhiye> thank you
[00:42] <knobcottage> managed to get back to a generic 1280 x 800 panel but how do I get back to what I had?
[00:42] <CareBerry> how do i login as root? it didn't ask me to setup a root password when i installed.
[00:42] <Pelo> HorizonXP, I have an asus p4p800 and I had absolutely no problems with any hardware related issues
[00:42] <DariusTheoNoir> CareBerry, use sudo
[00:42] <binarical-app> ahyuwhiye: the beep you hear is a result of a compiz setting that states "beep on ping"
[00:42] <Teoz> Pelo so if I remove it from all my 7 rc files (I have rc0.d, rc1.d, rc2.d, rc3.d, etc), it should be a-okay?
[00:42] <DariusTheoNoir> shouldn't have to log in as root
[00:42] <Creationist> When I insert a DVD video, the icon shows up on the desktop, but there's no way to actually PLAY it.  The only option when double- or right-clicking it is "Open" which just opens it in Nautilus.  I have to manually start vlc (because it doesn't create a menu item for it) and load the disc manually.  Anyone know why?  Happens with all DVDs.
[00:42] <Pelo> Teoz, from init.d to I tink but I am not sure,   the stuff in the rc level are just symlinks
[00:42] <DariusTheoNoir> gksudo if you want to work through GUI application (i.e. nautilius, gedit, etc)
[00:43] <amenado> !who
[00:43] <ubotu> As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[00:43] <Pelo> katella, what sound card is this ?
[00:43] <knobcottage> so gksudo?  I need gui but how from there?
[00:43] <Pelo> !dvd > Creationist check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[00:43] <sweetsinse> creationist check you volume management for gnome
[00:44] <DariusTheoNoir> Creationist: sounds like you need something akin to "open with"
[00:44] <Creationist> Pelo: That has nothing to do with my question.
[00:44] <sweetsinse> under setting somewhere sorry i have xfce
[00:44] <Creationist> DariusTheoNoir: Right... but it's not there.
[00:44] <sweetsinse> settings in nautilus
[00:44] <katella> Pelo: Built in Realtek 850 7.1channel AC'97 audio codec
[00:44] <katella> pelo: on a 939Dual-SATA2 mboard
[00:44] <Teoz> Pelo, weirdly enough,  rc0.d and so on are empty :S
[00:44] <knobcottage> creationist what about system preferred apps?
[00:44] <Pelo> katella, did it work at any point before ?
[00:44] <Creationist> knobcottage: That only asks about mail and internet browser.
[00:45] <DariusTheoNoir> Creationist: you don't have the option through rightclick>"open with" ?
[00:45] <Teoz> Pelo, but I saw the command update-rc.d write stuff to these files
[00:45] <DariusTheoNoir> interesting
[00:45] <Creationist> DariusTheoNoir: No.
[00:45] <knobcottage> no go to multimedia tab
[00:45] <DariusTheoNoir> ah...yes, that's another way
[00:45] <Creationist> DariusTheoNoir: "Open" and "Browse Folder" ... both have the same effect.
[00:45] <sweetsinse> no its not there
[00:45] <Creationist> knobcottage: Not there.
[00:45] <katella> Pelo: Very VERY wierdly, my sound works when I play World of Warcraft in Wine. However, no other time, even when ubuntu is loaded straight from the disk, has sound worked
[00:45] <sweetsinse> in preferred applications under gnome only have 2 things, internet and mail i think
[00:45] <knobcottage> ..it is on mine?
[00:45] <CareBerry> DariusTheoNoir: when i do a sudo apt-get update it says 'E : Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock -open (13 permission denied).. E: Uable to lock the admin directory /var/lib/dpkg, are you root?'.... so im not sure whats going on
[00:45] <legend2440> Creationist: system>preferences>removeable drives>multimedia point it to program like vlc
[00:45] <Pelo> Teoz, it's a bit over my head at this point, I just gave you a few places wehre I would look for a solution,  you can try the manpage for the command it might tell you where stuff is stored and how to remove
[00:46] <sweetsinse> creationaist the option you need is volume manager
[00:46] <sweetsinse> i dont know he command off head
[00:46] <nikin> Hy is there a wy to mount zip files? i have some havily compressable files about 21000 in a 68 Mb zip file. extracted size is around 500 MB... any idea on how to do that?
[00:46] <Teoz> Pelo, can I just edit the scrip that boots up and just clear all commands in it so that when ubunt starts up, it executes nothing (since I just emptied the file)
[00:46] <DariusTheoNoir> CareBerry...did you put in your system password?
[00:46] <Teoz> Pelo, ok thx :)
[00:46] <Pelo> katella, have a look in here for the soundcard or the mobo model  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[00:46] <knobcottage> system>preferred apps>then click the multimedia tab
[00:46] <CareBerry> DariusTheoNoir: it asked me for my password previously yes and i typed in the password i login with
[00:46] <Pelo> Teoz, sure
[00:47] <Teoz> Pelo, kcool thanks!
[00:47] <legend2440> Creationist: system>preferences>removeable drives>multimedia point it to program like vlc
[00:47] <AlexHoover> Whenever I try to print through Ubuntu from Mac OS X (haven't tested Windows XP), it keeps pausing the job. I enabled everything necessary. What could be wrong?
[00:47] <DariusTheoNoir> interesting
[00:47] <Pelo> katella, you did check the user permission right  ?
[00:47] <Creationist> legend2440: Found it... yep.  Thanks.  Not sure why it wasn't enabled by default.
[00:47] <katella> Pelo: Yes
[00:48] <knobcottage> still nay help with the laptop monitor thing
[00:48] <katella> pelo: Looks like they may be another driver for me to load. trying that
[00:48] <Pelo> katella, here is what is goig on , wine redirects to the hardware in ubuntu , so if sounds works form there it should work elsewhere
[00:48] <spiderfire> knobcottage: whats the problem?
[00:48] <CareBerry> DariusTheoNoir: anything i should try next?
[00:48] <DariusTheoNoir> CareBerry, that's not an issue I have stumbled on
[00:49] <DariusTheoNoir> so I am a bit stumped without additional information
[00:49] <knobcottage> spiderfire basically I messed it up and now managed only to get a generic 1280x800 panel
[00:49] <knobcottage> ubuntu can't find any monitor or panel by itself
[00:49] <DariusTheoNoir> Well... I would like to know if you can "sudo" anything
[00:50] <katella> Pelo: Makes sense in theory. Tried that new one, didn't work any better
[00:50] <katella> Pelo: Found the sound card there
[00:50] <Pelo> katella, try doing a forum search for the error msg you get , www.ubuntuforums.org
[00:50] <Creationist> Okay, so I now can autoplay DVDs, but VCD's don't work and even DVDs still offer no useful options in the right-click menu.
[00:50] <CareBerry> DariusTheoNoir: well i reset the root password and running it like that
[00:50] <DariusTheoNoir> CareBerry: as a test try clicking on synaptic and put in your password
[00:50] <icesword> good morning
[00:51] <DariusTheoNoir> see if it works (although you just said that synaptic is locking up your machine...nevermind)
[00:51] <BarryToeman> AlexHoover: did the printing problems start today?  There was a CUPS update today.
[00:51] <CareBerry> DariusTheoNoir: yea odd
[00:51] <DariusTheoNoir> CareBerry...if you are comfortable doing that
[00:52] <Moppa> Pelo: Now i have reallocated my diskspace. how do i get my /home/ to the new partition
[00:52] <DariusTheoNoir> let me try on my system
[00:52] <Creationist> Moppa: You need to modify your /etc/fstab and then move the /home/ to the new partition.  Kind of complicated :)
[00:52] <DariusTheoNoir> ok.. now I am going to do the same and use a bogus pass
[00:53] <Pelo> Moppa,try opening nautilus with root priviledges taht will be the simplest , youcan then drag drop from tehre    gksu nautilus ,
[00:53] <binarical-app> careberry: could try giving you terminal sudo -s and entering your pwd , then try doing what ever you wanted to do. Ive been having a similar prob myself where its consistently asking me for my root privileges
[00:53] <AlexHoover> BarryToeman, no
[00:53] <knobcottage> ...any help for my monitor?
[00:53] <amenado> Moppa-> you have to copy from old location to new location
[00:53] <Moppa> Pelo: ok. but first format the new partition as ext3 right_
[00:53] <ryanzec> how would i do search for *.so file in a directory(say /etc/php5)?
[00:53] <Pelo> Moppa, you'll need to use manual partitionning when you do the install so you can point to your /home on the new partiton
[00:53] <Pelo> Moppa, yes
[00:53] <Creationist> Pelo: Doing that will break his system... he needs to tell the system WHERE the new /home/ is going to be located and then mount it there.
[00:54] <Creationist> Moppa: Oh, I didn't realize he was talking about during an install.  My mistake.
[00:54] <Pelo> Creationist, he's reinstalling  we are saving his /home so he doesn'T loose anytihng
[00:54] <Moppa> exactly >)
[00:55] <knobcottage> ...and my monitor???
[00:55] <ploucmaster> hi
[00:55] <DariusTheoNoir> sorry knobcottage...
[00:55] <Pelo> Moppa, you'll still need to reinstall any extra apps you installed before and do any hardware config you needed to do
[00:55]  * Creationist shuts up and goes in the corner to hold his breath forever.
[00:55] <knobcottage> cheers!
[00:55] <nikrud> ryanakca   ls  /etc/php5/*so
[00:55] <BarryToeman> AlexHoover: my HP printer does the same thing sometimes, but I haven't debugged it yet...so I'm effectively useless.
[00:55] <Pelo> knobcottage, did you try the dualhead info I gave you ?
[00:55] <unop> ryanzec, find??   find /etc/php5 -iname "*.so"
[00:55] <DariusTheoNoir> repost a short synopsis of your issue and I will research it
[00:55] <Pelo> !dualhead | knobcottage
[00:55] <ubotu> knobcottage: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[00:55]  * nikrud gives Creationist a cookie
[00:55] <ryanakca> nikrud: mistab...
[00:55] <AlexHoover> BarryToeman, hmm. It's an HP PSC 2350.
[00:55]  * Creationist eats it. :)
[00:55] <AlexHoover> It does it 100% of the time.
[00:55] <knobcottage> No because I do not think that was the problem
[00:55] <icesword> nikrud, may i say good afternoon,or evening,heheh
[00:55] <nikrud> ryanakca sure was, ryanzec
[00:56] <Moppa> Pelo: Okay.
[00:56] <nikrud> icesword afternoon ;)
[00:56]  * Pelo waves hello to nikrud 
[00:56]  * nikrud waves back. checks his watch
[00:56] <knobcottage> I am trying to get my laptop screen going properly like it did before I mucked it up
[00:56] <CareBerry> my graphics are really choppy, i guess installing nvidia driver would be next?
[00:57] <Pelo> knobcottage, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , probably
[00:57] <Creationist> OKay, since there's no solution to the context menu issue, how about this one:  Every time I burn an audio CD either with Serpentine or K3b, it only plays in certain CD players.  Any way to make it more compatible?  It isn't the drive or media, because burning in Windows works fine.
[00:58] <Pelo> Creationist, does serpentine burn directly to the cd or make a iso you burn afterward ?
[00:58] <srbaker> heya folks
[00:58] <srbaker> is it a good time to go 64-bit yet?
[00:58] <srbaker> last time i checked there were a *lot* of incompatibilities
[00:58] <srbaker> flash was the biggest complaint i heard, but i heard lots of others as well
[00:58] <katella> Pelo: What command would I use to remove ~/.asoundrc*.?
[00:59] <Pelo> srbaker, wait for hardy to be released
[00:59] <srbaker> Pelo: well, i'm installing hardy beta.  is flash 64-bit yet?
[00:59] <knobcottage> aha but reconfigure to what?  when I dig in teh graphics thing and tell ubuntu to find my tft it says there is not one?
[00:59] <srbaker> or does hardy just deal with it better?
[00:59] <Pelo> katella, sudo rm ~/.asoundrc
[00:59] <Pelo> katella, sudo rm -rf ~/.asoundrc
[00:59] <DariusTheoNoir> CareBerry, I suppose you can enable proprietary drivers in software sources under system >administration - I had a netgear card that didn't work without enabling restricted  (or something of the sort)
[00:59] <Pelo> srbaker, I donT' think there is a flash 64 bit yet
[00:59] <katella> pelo: apparently that helped someone with the same error
[00:59] <srbaker> suck
[00:59] <nikrud> knobcottage where would you be telling it to look for the tft? I don't remember a section that talks about monitors, except the resolutions
[00:59] <srbaker> oh well
[00:59] <srbaker> thanks
[01:00] <AVBot> Quick question. I've got ubuntu live cd, and I want to know how to install ndiswarpper.deb from the cd once I get onto ubun.
[01:00] <katella> pelo: but apparently not me
[01:00] <Creationist> Pelo: Directly to disc.
[01:00] <DariusTheoNoir> but that may be bad advice for some...and sometimes these changes require your install disk
[01:00] <Pelo> katella, reboot,  the settings are still loaded
[01:00] <knobcottage> nikrud I go to graphics and somewhere there I tell it to find and it says it cant
[01:00] <katella> pelo: brb!
[01:01] <DariusTheoNoir> knobcottage, I was looking at some documentation on dual-head with ubuntu/linux/etc....looks risky to me
[01:01] <Pelo> Creationist, check in the settings in serpentine , look for the option to finalize the cd or something , make sure it is enable if it exist
[01:01] <nikrud> knobcottage ah, driver? It's looking for your video chip type, not the screen type. Like nvidia, fglrx (for ati) that kind of thing I expect
[01:01] <Creationist> Pelo: It is.
[01:01] <Pelo> Creationist, burn at low speed then  like 1x or 4x , that might also be an isse with older players
[01:01] <knobcottage> I 'll forget dual head, just need the tft recognised
[01:02] <Creationist> Pelo: I think I've tried that, but I'll try it again.
[01:02] <DaCapn_> Has anyone else had trouble getting 8.04 (beta) recognize their keyboard? I have 3 keyboards which I have tried in different combinations & ports but the only thing I've ever been able to do with them is (sometimes) ctrl+alt+del to reboot from the install menu (I can't select install, arrow keys & enter do nothing).
[01:02] <Pelo> Creationist, those are my only guess, you might wnat to look the problem up in the forum if that doesn't work
[01:02] <knobcottage> system >admin>screens and graphics>pusha button and get to detect...thenit says I have no tft or monitor
[01:02] <nikrud> knobcottage I think what we have here is a failure to communicate. You're talking about the primary monitor, right? Like a laptop, maybe?
[01:02] <Pelo> DaCapn_, ask in #ubuntu+1
[01:02] <AVBot> Communism is fail.
[01:02] <DaCapn_> Pelo thanks
[01:02] <Creationist> Pelo: Thanks.
[01:03] <nixnoob> how can i shrink my active ubuntu partition?
[01:03] <Pelo> AVBot, communism didn'T fail, it just got highjacked by totalitarism
[01:03] <AVBot> Communism is fail.
[01:03] <JPRuskin> is there a way to bind the sideways scroll buttons on a mouse?
[01:03] <Pelo> nixnoob, you can'T ,  you need to boot the live cd to do it
[01:03] <knobcottage> nikru you are right.  I tried to (windows talk) extend the dt onto a seecond monitor and then the screen blacked out
[01:03] <nixnoob> Pelo, thanks.
[01:03] <knobcottage> ...on the laptop
[01:04] <Pelo> !mouse
[01:04] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[01:04] <legend2440> AVBot: from terminal sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common or from synaptic
[01:04] <AVBot> Communism is fail.
[01:04] <Pici> !politics | AVBot
[01:04] <ubotu> AVBot: Please take political discussion to ##politics. Thank you!
[01:04] <JPRuskin> Pelo: Thanks, I was stupid
[01:04] <pharoh> #compiz-fusion
[01:04] <AVBot> its an auto message froma  script sorry
[01:04] <Pelo> Pici, it's a bot, just ban
[01:04] <katella> Pelo: No workie
[01:04] <AVBot> and thanks legend2440
[01:04] <nikrud> knobcottage ok.    sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg    will return your configuration to the same as it was at the initial install. You should return to there and move forward
[01:04] <Pelo> katella, hmmm
[01:04] <Pici> AVBot: Please disable your scripts.
[01:04] <bhsx> ok, it's been years since i've done this... so i've forgotten how and google is not being very nice... how do i start a second X-session on F8 again?  i remember it has something to do with ':01' appended or somesuch...
[01:04] <Pelo> katella,  I give up , sorry
[01:04] <Pici> !guidelines > AVBot (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[01:04] <bhsx> what i'm trying to do is get a full X over ssh on F8
[01:04] <Pelo> katella, are you using a restricted driver or something ?
[01:05] <katella> Pelo: Might be time for me to get a cheap sound card
[01:05] <lwizardl> Hi
[01:05] <AVBot> im leaving now, and private messages dont work for me on this thing
[01:05] <AVBot> thanks for the help
[01:05] <katella> Pelo: I downloaded the damned driver FOR linux and it didn't work
[01:05] <lwizardl> any ideas on when the gpu offload will be available in linux?
[01:05] <DariusTheoNoir> Knobcottage, put that line on a sticky and be sure you have it ready before you go playing around with fglrx and dual-head stuff ;)
[01:05] <Pelo> katella,  no I mean for your video card or someting ?
[01:05] <knobcottage> so doing all that sudo stuf will get all working as it did on teh original install and not go wrong?
[01:05] <katella> Pelo: um. sec
[01:06] <rhineheart_m> hello.. what makes heron better to gutsy? Is it also a good version for server?
[01:06] <DariusTheoNoir> well...knobcottage, test it and see.
[01:06] <nikrud> knobcottage yup. After that you can repeat the fglrx setup if you like, but doing the -pcritical will return you to default
[01:06] <katella> Pelo: I'll bite. how do i check? 8)
[01:06] <jsoftw_> Any way to make ubuntu a bit snappier/faster without having to upgrade hardware?
[01:06] <katella> pelo: yes, yes I am
[01:06] <Pelo> rhineheart_m, canonical releases new versions of *ubuntu every 6 months, with newer versions of programs and general fixes and stuff,
[01:06] <knobcottage> wow...and do I have to reboot or just re login?
[01:07] <Pelo> katella, are you using kde ?
[01:07] <DariusTheoNoir> gutsy is better...because its not beta ;)
[01:07] <rhineheart_m> how long LTS will be supported/
[01:07] <nikrud> knobcottage gotta go, but will be back in not long. And  a quick re login will do it
[01:07] <DariusTheoNoir> I have a separate machine for experimental installs
[01:07] <katella> pelo: using gutsy and gnome and a restricted nvidia graphics driver
[01:07] <nikrud> rhineheart_m 3 years on the desktop, 5 on the server
[01:08] <Pelo> katella, nvm , I give up for real,  go for the 10$ sound card
[01:08] <knobcottage> maybe you talk to me later or I go to bed with a broken laptop:P
[01:08] <nikrud> knobcottage I'll stick around for a login :)
[01:08] <katella> Pelo: okie day! afk to see if I have an extra sound card somewhere
[01:08] <katella> pelo: like in a box in my basement or something
[01:08] <knobcottage> cheers I f I not come back I'm broken:-D
[01:08] <nikrud> knobcottage as long as it's only a few minutes, otherwise look for me in about an hour or so
[01:09] <Pelo> katella, best of luck ,  I went and gave all my extra hardware to a local  computer refurbisher thing,
[01:09]  * Pelo actualy wonders why those guys donT' install linux on their boxes
[01:09] <DariusTheoNoir> poll: anyone here successfully using compiz on an integrated chipset?
[01:09] <jordo2323_> I was a long time KDE user and have gone to Gnome running Ubuntu Gutsy (from Kubuntu). I loved Amarok. Which GTK-based music players should I investigate?  And no I don't want to run QT-based apps in Gnome.
[01:09] <rootpt> how can i turn off LAGCHK of xchat ?
[01:10] <Pelo> DariusTheoNoir, I have , but not all the options,   but I donT' generaly run it , I donT care much for eyecandy
[01:10] <SisyphusINC> playback for 720 and 1080p under m player is very choppy is there a way to fix this?
[01:10] <DariusTheoNoir> ah...you must have a really awesome chipset then
[01:10] <BarryToeman> jordo2323_: Quod Libet is nice.
[01:10] <DariusTheoNoir> or better than most
[01:10] <daguerre> Hi. I've problem with Django. I run python manage.py syncdb. It says that postgresql timeout. In pg_hba.conf my ip is allowe. But django does not see the server. what can I do?
[01:10] <Pelo> jordo2323_, give  rhythmbox a chance,   open all the options it's better then most ppl think
[01:11] <DariusTheoNoir> I find that compiz simply doesn't work, or works poorly on mobility hardware
[01:11] <nikin> Hy is there a wy to mount zip files? i have some havily compressable files about 21000 in a 68 Mb zip file. extracted size is around 500 MB... any idea on how to do that?
[01:11] <rootpt> how can i turn off LAGCHK of xchat ??
[01:11] <DariusTheoNoir> rootpt, I have no idea...and I use xchat
[01:11] <Pelo> DariusTheoNoir, it pro9babaly depends more on the capacity of your video card the anything else
[01:11] <jordo2323_> Pelo: I am using Rhythmbox to begin....using it right now in fact.....it doesn't compare to Amarok though....any others that come close to Rhythmbox?
[01:11] <Pelo> rootpt, ask in #xchat
[01:12] <SisyphusINC> or is linus not up to the hi def stuff yet
[01:12] <SisyphusINC> linux
[01:12] <rootpt> Pelo, no one aswner
[01:12] <Pelo> jordo2323_, I recommend you take a look in add/remove ,  there are quite a few audo players in there, bmp , xmms , etc  try them all , no extra charge
[01:12] <hauk> Pelo: That worked ok. Nothing exploded.
[01:12] <Pelo> rootpt, did you check in the settings ?
[01:12] <BarryToeman> jordo2323_: also try Exaile
[01:13] <DariusTheoNoir> xmms is nice...light, easy...simple
[01:13] <Pelo> hauk, what was you issue again ? it's been a while
[01:13] <hauk> Pelo: the compiz being removed thing in update manager ;)
[01:13] <rootpt> Pelo, yup, but nothing..
[01:13] <jordo2323_> BarryToeman: I used Konversation for IRC....what do you use for a chat client?
[01:13] <Pelo> hauk, ah yes,  how's the compositing in gnome 2.24 going ?
[01:14] <BarryToeman> jordo2323_: a lot of people use X-Chat
[01:14] <Pelo> jordo2323_, are you sing xchat or xchat-gnome ?
[01:14] <cody-somerville> XChat FTW! :D
[01:14] <hauk> Pelo: Very good! I've got wobbly windows, firey paint, and lots of other useless stuff thats good for boasting to friends about ^_^
[01:14] <Pelo> rootpt, I mean, are you using xchat or xchat-gnome
[01:14] <kelvin911> can anyone help me to play video full screen in mplayer??
[01:14] <rootpt> xchat
[01:14] <jordo2323_> BarryToeman: Yeah...using that too right now.....Konversation was a little better....is there a way to drag names of users into the chat window to address them in XChat?
[01:15] <Pelo> hauk, hows the memory requirement and cpu ?
[01:15] <kelvin911> i cant play realplayer format in full screen in mplayer
[01:15] <DariusTheoNoir> compiz is cool...just google/video compiz-fusion and look at the demo
[01:15] <knobcottage> wow back and running great thatnks nickrud sorry it took some time but my kb does a slash instead of a has and could not get pigin to connect
[01:15] <DariusTheoNoir> (sorry for the off-topic)
[01:15] <Creationist> h
[01:15] <Poenike> Im having problems installing/testing out ubuntu on the live CD... I was wondering if anyone could help me out one on one? (here or msn messenger)
[01:15] <jordo2323_> Pelo: XChat Gnome
[01:15] <katella> pelo: nopes, lent my spare sound card to my bro in law. gonna have to pick a cheap one up tomorrow
[01:15] <kelvin911> in fact after installing w32codec, the mplayer can not play anything in full screen
[01:15] <Moppa> Pelo: So, when i have copyed everything to the new partition, what will i do then. *not there yet, but i\d like to know*
[01:15] <Pelo> kelvin911, install realplayer then ,  on their webise , they have a .bin for linux users
[01:15] <katella> pelo: thanks for the attemted help at getting my stinkin sound that should be working to work
[01:15] <kelvin911> i dont like realplayer
[01:16] <legend2440> rootpt: go to .xchat dir in home its a hidden file then open xchat.conf look for gui lagometer=1 set it to 0
[01:16] <BarryToeman> jordo2323_: I'm not sure, but I like xchat-gnome better than just "xchat" in synaptic
[01:16] <Pelo> jordo2323_,  my inquiry was not for you  I made a mistake,  but try xchat instead , xchat-gnome is not up to par
[01:16] <hatta> kelvin911: you want to edit your /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf
[01:16] <hauk> Pelo: It's grand. One second, I'll check. CPU is running at 100% after using the desktop cube. Memory usage is 50%
[01:16] <kelvin911> hatta: how?
[01:16] <Pelo> katella, sorry I coudlnT, actualy help
[01:16]  * Pelo feels like a falluer
[01:16] <hatta> with any text editor
[01:16] <Pelo> hauk, that sucks
[01:16] <katella> pelo: no prob. maybe tomorrow when the sound card doesn't work. ><
[01:17] <hauk> Pelo: yeah, i hadn't noticed the CPU running like that before.
[01:17] <kelvin911> hatta: i mean what do i need to edit?
[01:17] <Poenike> having problems with install... can anyone help me
[01:17] <hauk> Poenike: What seems to be the problem?
[01:17] <knobcottage> poenike I probably can't but I see your request
[01:18] <Pelo> hauk, I don't realy use compiz or any effects myself,  I was just curious, but did you reinstall compiz or are you using the compoziting that comes in the new gnome ?
[01:18] <kelvin911> before i install the w32codec, i can double click mplayer to get to full screen
[01:18] <hatta> kelvin911: there will be lines that say:
[01:18] <hatta> # Start in fullscreen mode by default.
[01:18] <hatta> #fs=yes
[01:18] <lwizardl> any ideas on when the gpu offload will be available in linux for MPEG4 videos?
[01:18] <Poenike> hauk is there a way I can just talk to you
[01:18] <nikin> Hy is there a wy to mount zip files? i have some havily compressable files about 21000 in a 68 Mb zip file. extracted size is around 500 MB... any idea on how to do that?
[01:18] <kelvin911> but now i double click, it gets to full screen but the video is not to fullscreen
[01:18] <hauk> Pelo: I installed the Compiz Settings Manager. Other than that, it's standard stuff.
[01:18] <Poenike> like a private chat
[01:18] <hatta> remove the # from fs=yes
[01:18] <rootpt> legend2440, ok i will do that, wait
[01:19] <daguerre> ok I've tried psql -U postgres -h myhost "mydb" - there is no answer - any clue why postgres is not responding?
[01:19] <jordo2323__> Pelo: Trying regular Xchat.....seems a little better
[01:19] <hauk> Poenike: Not really, I'll be heading to bed now in a minute. I was just thinking I could throw some general advice your way. It's 1am here.
[01:19] <rootpt> legend2440, it continues :(
[01:19] <kelvin911> hatta: i have that # Start in fullscreen mode by default.
[01:19] <kelvin911> #fs=yes
[01:19] <Pelo> hauk, for that to work that mean you are actualy running compiz,  it's probably not the default compoziting in gnome 2.24 then
[01:19] <Moppa> Pelo: What do i do after i have copyed my /home/
[01:19] <knobcottage> nikin you don't need to mount a zip file do you, just double click it?
[01:19] <deniz__> wen i open a multipaged pdf in gimp i can convert the pages to .jpgs if i import and save one at a time but selecting all pages wen it asks, that only opens the first page of the pdf! im tired of saving each page manually, i want an easy select all then convert all in 1 click method, can sum1 help me
[01:19] <Poenike> ok cool, I am running on a 64bit AMD system and I have the newest ubuntu install cd
[01:19] <hauk> Pelo: Yeah, it's compiz-fusion.
[01:19] <legend2440> rootpt: did you set gui_lagometer=0?
[01:19] <DariusTheoNoir> Poenike, sounds like you are in for a nice ride
[01:19] <Poenike> however, when I go to install it... it loads up kernel and it just sits at a black screen
[01:19] <hatta> the # is a comment character, remove it and mplayer will get the option fs=yes
[01:19] <hauk> Pelo: I thought that comes as standard in gutsy?
[01:19] <DariusTheoNoir> but don't do beta
[01:19] <rootpt> legend2440, yes. i did that
[01:20] <DariusTheoNoir> (sorry -- my opinion)
[01:20] <hatta> so that should start videos in full screen for you
[01:20] <hauk> Poenike: Are you using the 64bit version install cd?
[01:20] <DariusTheoNoir> unless you are feeling adventurous
[01:20] <mitch_> hey
[01:20] <Poenike> Darius:640MB video card... it creates worm holes =P
[01:20] <legend2440> rootpt: you have to restart xchat for settings to take effect
[01:20] <Poenike> Hauk: yes It says X64 on the file I downloaded
[01:20] <Poenike> as well as amd
[01:20] <kelvin911> hatta: i still cant get the full screen working
[01:20] <DariusTheoNoir> well...wormholes are nice...but make sure they are wormholes to paradise, and not kernel panic
[01:20] <hatta> hm
[01:20] <Pelo> Moppa, ok  no you can re-install,  btw your / won't realy need to be more the 10 gig you can leave the rest to /home ,   you reinstall,  when you get to the partitonning part, use manual partitionning, you won't need to do anyomre partitionhinng but in the next step you will have to tell the installer what partition to use for / for /swap and for /home
[01:21] <mitch_> yo
[01:21] <kelvin911> hatta: do u have mplayer installed there?
[01:21] <DariusTheoNoir> hot hardware often gets people installing the hottest things...which aren't always stable
[01:21] <hatta> yes
[01:21] <rootpt> legend2440, yes i did
[01:21] <rootpt> but nothing..
[01:21] <hauk> Poenike: Okay, I've no idea =/ Try the Ubuntu forums. Do some searching for "black screen during installation" or something like that. The Ubuntu forusm is full of solutions.
[01:21] <kelvin911> hatta: can you play your movie in full screen?
[01:21] <ryanzec>  has anyone installed php 5.3 on ubuntu 7.10?
[01:21] <DariusTheoNoir> oh...
[01:21] <DariusTheoNoir> black screen---I know this one!
[01:21] <Poenike> ok ill try =/, I want to get the hell out of vista if you know what I mean lol
[01:21] <Pelo> hauk,  compiz is now standard in gutsy , but hardy uses gnome 2.24  which has some compoziting in it , that is what I was interested in ,
[01:22] <DariusTheoNoir> press Alt and F1 simultaneously....I had that problem when I installed gutsy
[01:22] <HardyHeronB> theheron rules
[01:22] <Moppa> Pelo: okay. so before reinstalling now i resize the / partition to 10 gb. Or shall i do that afterwards?
[01:22] <legend2440> rootpt: as a matter of fact you may have make change with xchat shut down because settings sometimes revert back for some reason
[01:22] <Pelo> Poenike, we know wht you mean , vista is hell
[01:22] <hauk> Pelo: ah ok. I'm in Gutsy atm. I'm looking forward to Hardy though :)
[01:22] <hatta> kelvin911: yes I can
[01:22] <kelvin911> hatta: which format?
[01:22] <kelvin911> hatta: avi?
[01:22] <hatta> yes, xvid avi
[01:22] <hatta> and anything else I want
[01:22] <kelvin911> hatta: did u install w32codec/
[01:22] <DariusTheoNoir> for some reason, my screen would go blank after grub and it took 5 minutes to boot up
[01:22] <hatta> try pressing 'f'
[01:22] <hatta> yes
[01:23] <kelvin911> hatta: how come i cant play some avi movie?
[01:23] <kelvin911> only VLC plays them all
[01:23] <Poenike> Can anyone else help? Its a black screen that doesnt move right after I press "install or try ubuntu"
[01:23] <Pelo> Moppa,  you can do it now , it's just a suggestion,   anything from 5-10 gig is fine for / , and you donT' actualy need to resize you can just delete , since you don'T be using anyting on it and your /home is now safe on the new partiton
[01:23] <Poenike> when I boot from cd
[01:23] <kelvin911> but the problem is VLC cant play rm, rmvb
[01:23] <Pelo> Poenike, what video card ?
[01:23] <kelvin911> how to make VLC play realplayer?
[01:23] <legend2440> rootpt: there is asetting called gui_throttlemeter also so that may be the one to change
[01:23] <hatta> I haven't tried that
[01:23] <Redeye2> Poenike ... hit f6 and then change quiet splash to nosplash
[01:24] <DariusTheoNoir> right....
[01:24] <Poenike> ill try that redeye
[01:24] <Moppa> Pelo: but will that not be a waste of space then? isn\t it better to use as much as posible for /home/?
[01:24] <DariusTheoNoir> f6...I used f1...whatever works
[01:24] <Poenike> and its a 8800gts640mb
[01:24] <Poenike> brb going to try that.
[01:24] <jsoftw_> Any way to make ubuntu a bit snappier/faster without having to upgrade hardware?
[01:24] <Pelo> Moppa,  yes it is ,  you can then move and resize your /home
[01:25] <HardyHeronB> js  whats your system specks
[01:25] <kelvin911> which driver u use in preference in mplayer?
[01:25] <DariusTheoNoir> jsoftw, hack the kernel? (joking)
[01:25] <jsoftw> 2.8 mhz, 1.5G ram
[01:25] <Moppa> Pelo: okay, after install or before >), don't want to screw things up now >P
[01:25] <jsoftw> ghz even
[01:25] <Pelo> Moppa, 4 gig for / is pretty much a minimum, that is assuming you donT' install much or any extra apps from the default ,
[01:25] <Pelo> Moppa, before,
[01:25] <HardyHeronB> jsoftw: thats a reasonable system
[01:25] <hauk> Pelo: Ah found out why it was running at 100%. Wineserver.
[01:25] <Pelo> hauk, ouch
[01:25] <jsoftw> Yeah I find ubuntu does not multitask very well
[01:25] <Pelo> Moppa,  lets review if you don'T mind
[01:26] <hauk> Pelo: Yeah, killed it and it instantly dropped to 15%
[01:26] <DariusTheoNoir> jsoftw, what exactly do you try to multitask?
[01:26] <bhsx> any ideas on how to start a full X session over ssh on another tty? (startx -- :1, for example, but over ssh)
[01:26] <jsoftw> Just normal desktop stuff
[01:26] <Pelo> hauk, what were you running on wine ?
[01:26] <legend2440> rootpt: here is a page that explains the settings http://xchat-win32.berlios.de/setvars.html
[01:26] <rootpt> legend2440, nothing man
[01:26] <rootpt> ok
[01:26] <kelvin911> hatta: http://img370.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotdh4.png Am I picking the right one??
[01:26] <Stepa1> Why do PDF's print so poorly?  Can that be changed?
[01:26] <hauk> Pelo: I was messing with it earlier and I had IE running in it(I'm only messing with wine atm), and I don't think it exited.
[01:26] <DariusTheoNoir> jsoftw, my recommendations on that would be fit for another forum.
[01:27] <Dr_willis> bhsx,  you can see the remote terminal from where you are sitting, and dont want to reach for its keyboard or what?
[01:27] <DariusTheoNoir> ubuntu doesn't seem to cause much difficulty for me with multitasking...
[01:27] <Moppa> Pelo: okay, when the copy is finished i'll move and resize my /home partition and make a 10 gb partition for /. During install manually tell the installationprogram which partition is wich *but dont format /home* >)
[01:28] <jsoftw> Meh
[01:28] <Pelo> Moppa,  before installing ,  you will pre - partition you hdd,   about 4-10 gig for / in ext3,  2xram ( max 2gig ) for swap and the rest for /home in ext3,   once that is done ,  you can star the installer,  nce you get to the where to intall bit ,  select manual partitionning , whre you will be able to tell the installer where each of your paertitons are
[01:28] <DariusTheoNoir> but then again...you might give me more specifics.  Enter "top" into the terminal and see what might be hogging resources
[01:28] <Pelo> Moppa, exactly
[01:28] <bhsx> Dr_willis:  my daughter is using the desktop
[01:28] <bhsx> i want to use it for bittorrent and some other stuff while she's using it
[01:28] <Moppa> Pelo: Thanks >)
[01:28] <bhsx> i'm on my laptop with wireless and a smaller disk
[01:28] <hatta> kelvin911: you should try xv
[01:28] <Stepa1> Why do PDF's print so poorly?  Can their quality be increased?
[01:28] <bhsx> and dont want to use BT on the laptop
[01:28] <Pelo> Moppa,  you'll find the install will be much quicker since there will be less hdd to format ,  and from now on when you screw things up badly you can reinstall without fear of loosing your data and settings
[01:29] <Pelo> Moppa, best of luck
[01:29] <hatta> that enables somes scaling, that could be your problem
[01:29] <Dr_willis> bhsx,  you can ssh -X remotemachine and run an app - it will appear locally.
[01:29] <DariusTheoNoir> Stepal, I have noticed this as well...
[01:29] <bhsx> Dr_willis: gee thanks.....
[01:29] <Dr_willis> bhsx,  or install vncserver, and have a remote desktop in a window on your current desktopp easially enough.
[01:29] <bhsx> let me repeat...
[01:29] <DariusTheoNoir> But I've been too lazy to find the source of the problem
[01:29] <Moppa> Pelo: Thank you very much, appreciated
[01:29] <bhsx> any ideas on how to start a full X session over ssh on another tty? (startx -- :1, for example, but over ssh)
[01:29] <kelvin911> hatta: what about the check box like double buffering, direct rendering , etc??
[01:29] <Stepa1> DariusTheoNoir: do you know a solution?
[01:29]  * Pelo will laugh at nikro when he comes back ,  timed out , how lame 
[01:29] <kelvin911> hatta: do i just leave it alone?
[01:29] <bhsx> i KNOW how to forward X
[01:29] <Pelo> Moppa, best of luck
[01:29] <Dr_willis> bhsx,  that SOUNDS like you want a 2nd desktop to appear on HEr machine.. that will interfear with her using it...
[01:30] <DariusTheoNoir> I wish I did...but I keep getting caught up in whatever document I load to test it
[01:30] <Dr_willis> bhsx,  so what you are stating is not making sence to me.
[01:30] <bhsx> i'm asking how to forward a FULL xsession to a second TTY on my laptop
[01:30] <DariusTheoNoir> i.e. I start reading
[01:30] <Dr_willis> bhsx,  a full x session - use xdmcp.
[01:30] <hatta> that should be ok
[01:30] <DariusTheoNoir> I need to find some boring pdf files to test ... or I am never getting anything done
[01:30] <hatta> I don't think you need to change anything there
[01:30] <bhsx> yes, now how do i send that to -- :1?
[01:30] <DariusTheoNoir> try different readers I suppose
[01:30] <Pelo> DariusTheoNoir, look for lorem ipsum  nothing readable in tehre
[01:31] <kelvin911> hatta: thanks !!!
[01:31] <DariusTheoNoir> perhaps it is a font issue?
[01:31] <kelvin911> hatta: now i can full screen
[01:31] <NW2190> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu Studio 8.04 beta on my comp, but it keeps freezing after displaying "Checking file systems" and going through the file systems. Is there a way to skip the checks?
[01:31] <hatta> kelvin911: glad I could help
[01:31] <Pelo> NW2190, for hardy stuff ask in #ubuntu+1
[01:31] <NW2190> k
[01:31] <Survivorman> !Hardy | NW2190
[01:31] <ubotu> NW2190: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[01:32] <Stepa1> DariusTheoNoir: Yea, i guess getting a better PDF reader is what to do, i think when it prints, it treats the PDFs as pictures and just reduces their resolution
[01:32] <Dr_willis> bhsx, as a quick way to do somthing similer to that. Ive spawned a minimal X session on the local box, then in a single terminal, ssh -X remote, then run the window manager.
[01:32] <kelvin911> hatta: but still some avi cant play
[01:32] <kelvin911> hatta: but they can be played by VLC but not mplayer
[01:33] <bhsx> Dr_willis: not as smooth as I'd like,  but that'll work... i'm looking for a more elegant solution
[01:33] <DariusTheoNoir> I think the default pdf reader is evince
[01:33] <DariusTheoNoir> but try the bug fix that uses bitmapped fonts
[01:33] <Pelo> DariusTheoNoir, it is  but you can intall  adobe acroread from the backport repos I think
[01:33] <DariusTheoNoir> I googled it and found loads of documentation on poor pdf quality in feisty
[01:34] <kelvin911> hatta: for example mkv file only played by VLC only
[01:34] <DariusTheoNoir> oh...that's probably the solution then--what Pelo is recommending
[01:34] <Dr_willis> bhsx,  enable XDMCP on the desktop. the KDM/GDM login screen have a 'start remote session' feature
[01:34] <kelvin911> hatta: not mplayer
[01:34] <Stepa1> DariusTheoNoir: i wonder if its just a fiesty issue
[01:34] <Pelo> DariusTheoNoir, are you on a laptop or with a lcd monitor ?
[01:34] <Dr_willis> bhsx, but enabling tha will require you to restart X on her machine.
[01:34] <DariusTheoNoir> Pelo, yes
[01:34] <bhsx> Dr_willis: yeah i'm very familiar with xdmcp from using LTSP for years
[01:34] <DariusTheoNoir> and that's right...that could be another issue altogether
[01:34] <Pelo> DariusTheoNoir, to in the font manager in appearance and enable  subpixel hinting , that shoudl help a bit
[01:34] <hatta> I don't have any mkv files
[01:35] <DariusTheoNoir> thanks pelo
[01:35] <Dr_willis> bhsx,  i keep my torrent client going inside a vncsedksop on my remote machine. that way it stays running
[01:35] <Joeb454> hey, will virtual box run on x64 ubuntu?
[01:35] <roffe__> does linux only live because it can reap the rewards of the commercial windows?
[01:35] <DariusTheoNoir> wow....that just made my whole system look better
[01:35] <Pelo> Joeb454, ask in #vbox
[01:35] <Stepa1> DariusTheoNoir: it seems that evice has 52 listed bugs
[01:35] <bhsx> yeah, i probably should setup to use vnc that way
[01:35] <Joeb454> thanks Pelo
[01:36] <Pelo> DariusTheoNoir, you just had to ask the right question
[01:36] <bhsx> that's how i used to set my LTSP servers for windows access
[01:36] <DariusTheoNoir> yeah...try reading through their documentation/bugfixes
[01:36] <DariusTheoNoir> I don't know...
[01:36] <Dr_willis> roffe__,  i would think windows is reaping the rewards of the  work of linux. But thats for offtopic chat.
[01:36] <ZeroWing> Just a random question: which usually runs faster, if there is a difference at all? A .deb package or something compiled from source?
[01:36]  * Pelo hates having to read 2 hrs of  quesitons and issues to figure out what the actual problem is 
[01:36] <levander> I've just downloaded a swf file.  I've already got flashplugin-nonfree installed.  Can I play the swf file on my desktop with that package somehow?
[01:36] <DariusTheoNoir> for now I am not going to mess with my beloved reader, being that I read about 99% of the time I am on this thing
[01:36] <Dr_willis> ZeroWing,  i doubt if there would be a diff.
[01:37] <Pelo> DariusTheoNoir, did it help in evince as well ?
[01:37] <ZeroWing> No difference? Meh, oh well. That's all I wanted to know.
[01:37] <ZeroWing> Thanks.
[01:37] <Dr_willis> levander,  i just drag/drop/load them into the briowser
[01:37] <DariusTheoNoir> *reading
[01:37] <a1fa> so when is ubuntu 8.04 due?
[01:37] <c3rb3rus5> does anyone know if logitech harmony remotes can be supported in ubuntu?
[01:37] <roffe__> dr_willis: Well it just crossed me and I wanted to discuss it.. I like linux a lot, but it felt so obvious somehow.. where's off-topic then?
[01:37] <bhsx> actually... isn't there an LTSP package for ubuntu?
[01:37] <Pelo> DariusTheoNoir,  I think you can also read pdf in OOo but I 'm not sure
[01:37] <bhsx> that'll probably setup everything i want automatically
[01:37] <levander> Dr_willis: it's working thanks.
[01:37] <Dr_willis> !ot | roffe__
[01:37] <ubotu> roffe__: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:37] <binarical-app> bhsx: if you want to get into the nitty gritty, you could set up the server normally then create a user that isnot admin, that way you can have x running on a user that isnt shown to the server ports.
[01:37] <DariusTheoNoir> yeah...
[01:38] <DariusTheoNoir> its an improvement
[01:38] <Pelo> c3rb3rus5, check models in the forum
[01:38] <Dr_willis> levander, it is? great... err.. what was the problem? i forget..
[01:38] <roffe__> !ot
[01:38] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:38] <DariusTheoNoir> I also heard that certain conversion tools will cause this issue
[01:38] <DariusTheoNoir> anyhow...my pdfs are readable either way
[01:38] <bhsx> binarical-app: i'm not sure i'm following you there... but that's ok...
[01:38] <c3rb3rus5> Pelo: thanks
[01:38] <levander> Dr_willis: I just didn't know a quick way to open the file.
[01:38] <knobcottage> Im back again... who was asking about the GIMP and PDFS
[01:38] <DariusTheoNoir> as long as some signal gets through the noise
[01:38] <roffe__> thaks!
[01:38] <Pelo> knobcottage, probabaly DariusTheoNoir
[01:39] <combine> join
[01:39] <binarical-app> bhsx: having x run on a server, or machine whos ports are directly forwarded causes security risks, and blats the machine
[01:39] <JPRuskin> !test
[01:39] <Dr_willis> levander,  ive seen some disrtos include some stand alone flash player. but ive no idea where it came from. (mandriva had one I think)
[01:39] <ubotu> Failed.
[01:39] <DariusTheoNoir> Actually, it was someone else...
[01:39] <JPRuskin> failed indeed
[01:39] <JPRuskin> !mouse
[01:39] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[01:39] <knobcottage> darius where you asking about PDFs in GIMP and import multiple pages?
[01:39] <combine> freenode join eglug
[01:40] <DariusTheoNoir> no...someone else :)
[01:40] <deniz__> knobcottage, i asked that
[01:40] <Pelo> DariusTheoNoir, I don't think I grasp how bad your pdf could possibly look , I mean if you can read your screen pdf should be decent enough unless they're all scans and not actual text
[01:40] <binarical-app> bhsx: the way i see it is you would like to have a torrent running in the back ground of a spare machine that your family can use
[01:40] <knobcottage> deniz do you know the answer...I do
[01:40] <DariusTheoNoir> well...I am reading axiom documentation right now
[01:40] <DariusTheoNoir> and it's fine
[01:40] <DariusTheoNoir> but at one point it was horrible
[01:40] <bhsx> binarical-app: yes, that's a goal, but i want it for more than that
[01:40] <deniz__> knobcottage, well it says select all and i click import but it only loads first page
[01:40] <DariusTheoNoir> I can't remember when, and to be honest, I am too busy reading about domain constructors for axiom
[01:41] <knobcottage> no llok at the top of the screen in gimp it impoorts all but in layers
[01:41] <bhsx> basically, any network-intensive apps i'd like running on wired, not wireless
[01:41] <JPRuskin> !ubotu
[01:41] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:41] <knobcottage> you have to change layers to see the other pages
[01:41] <JPRuskin> [sorry about this by the way]
[01:41] <knobcottage> ...at least in mine...
[01:41] <DariusTheoNoir> but I believe the quality was enhanced somewhat just by enabling the "for LCD" in fonts
[01:41] <tifine> hey guys i bought the nintendo ds and looking for a card, where i can copy games into it, so that i dont need to buy games
[01:41] <Pelo> JPRuskin, we do not forgive , we make notes
[01:42] <bhsx> binarical-app: my real hang-up right now is getting the X to forward to my second tty (:1)
[01:42] <deniz__> knobcottage, i look at top of screen were? and do wat exactly?
[01:42] <chicobo329> Hi, I got a problem with my Nvidia graphics card
[01:42] <bhsx> rather than starting X in :1, switching to it, and running gnome-session
[01:42] <JPRuskin> Pelo: hurk
[01:42] <legend2440> Joeb454: i assume virtualbox works on x64 since they have it available for download here https://cds.sun.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/CDS-CDS_SMI-Site/en_US/-/USD/ViewFilteredProducts-SingleVariationTypeFilter;pgid=01RgaHqkAdxSR0EUQncsoQ3D0000mL5466QZ;sid=5u_bTuDLhHLbTac-ngqTSw9sYtJAJC2Osw0Uj_3VGL20Wg==
[01:42] <chicobo329> I am running the 8.04 pre-release, however I have had this problem when I was in 7.10
[01:42] <xif> I want to install Hardy Beta on a Macbook pro
[01:42] <knobcottage> in teh title bar of the image you see you should see layer 1 0f 10 if you took in ten pages
[01:42] <Joeb454> oh ok thanks legend2440
[01:42] <xif> (CoreDuo2)
[01:42] <bhsx> but i dont know/cant find an elegant solution to that
[01:43] <chicobo329> my Nvidia graphics driver fails to enable. It will enable and require a restart
[01:43] <xif> should I install the i386 version, or something else?
[01:43] <chicobo329> but then Ubuntu starts in low graphics mode
[01:43] <caveman> I have a hard drive with all my music on it, I want to put it in an encolsure so I can transfer it to my laptop via  USB, its formatted reiserFS, will that filestsem work through a USB adapter? or am I screwed?
[01:43] <chicobo329> I can test my resolution perfectly, by selecting my monitor (Pavilion M40 laptop display)
[01:43] <chicobo329> but starting up after that forces me into 800x600
[01:43] <Pelo> xif, i386 will work for you
[01:43] <chicobo329> and there's no Screens and Monitors option
[01:43] <xxxx443354> how do you port scan an ip on linux?
[01:43] <Pelo> !enter | chicobo329
[01:43] <ubotu> chicobo329: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:43] <xif> Pelo: yeah, but maybe I would get better results with one of the 64 bit ones?
[01:44] <Pici> xxxx443354: look for nmap in the repositories
[01:44] <chicobo329> my bad
[01:44] <Eleaf> I'm having trouble with audacity.  Audacity has always worked but today, audacity seems to be running jack and trying to connect that way.  I can't get sound in or out!  How do I make audacity not use jack, but just alsa?
[01:44] <Pelo> chicobo329, you can add extra resolutions you need by editing the xorg.conf file
[01:44] <knobcottage> ...then go to the layers menu and pick which one you want
[01:44] <chicobo329> lemme fiddle with that and see what happens
[01:45] <DariusTheoNoir> I am noticing a pattern---users tend to mess around with graphics and display and end up getting barred from their system UI
[01:45] <Eleaf> Audacity says this many times with jack:  Expression 'AlsaOpen( hostApi, parameters, streamDir, &pcm )' failed in 'src/hostapi/alsa/pa_linux_alsa.c', line: 1066
[01:45] <DariusTheoNoir> but then again...the temptation is just too great.
[01:45] <knobcottage> layer>stack>select previous or got top etc
[01:45] <Eleaf> Everything is very slow in audacity, I can't get sound to record.
[01:45] <Pelo> xif,  amd64 lacks driver support for  some nvidia and ati cards, and also has no flash and other tidbits like that , we generaly tell ppl to run i386 unless they have actual need for  64bit computing
[01:45] <xif> anyone knows if I should try installing the AMD64 distro on a CoreDuo2 MacbookPro?
[01:45] <xif> Pelo: OK, cool :)
[01:45] <binarical-app> xif: yes that is the only way to do it
[01:45] <xif> fscking flash
[01:46] <xif> I freaking hate it, but its necessary.
[01:46] <Pelo> xif, I'm told there are work around slike intalling  32 bit Firefox on the 64 bit os but that's a bit over my head
[01:46] <knobcottage> see what i mean Deniz_
[01:47] <xif> Pelo: yeah, but they're too much hassle
[01:47] <knobcottage> ...working for you deniz?
[01:47]  * Pelo generaly keeps his head down, do a lot of stuff goes over his head 
[01:47] <xif> and eventually, you don't get the best Flash player.
[01:48] <merlin__> hey all
[01:48] <xif> if I get Beta now, will I be able to upgrade to Hardy Stable later?
[01:48] <Survivorman> yes
[01:48] <merlin__> i just installed my first ubuntu
[01:48] <xif> Survivorman: cool
[01:48] <deniz__> knobcottage, i c 13 layers but wen i save it its still 1 image
[01:48] <xif> merlin__: yay!
[01:49] <DariusTheoNoir> mac os?...  http://www.mactel-linux.org/wiki/Main_Page
[01:49] <DariusTheoNoir> just install bootcamp
[01:49] <Pelo> merlin__, welcome to the madhouse
[01:49] <merlin__> i want a beryl desktop but can't find any beryl in the app list
[01:49] <Starnestommy> merlin__: beryl has become compiz-fusion
[01:49] <HardyHeronB> merlin__:    would u take a beryl of beer
[01:49]  * HardyHeronB ducks
[01:50] <binarical-app> xif: the mac keyboard has problems ..... serious ones.... in hardy beta
[01:50] <Pelo> merlin__, if you installed gutsy , or higher ,  you do not look for beryl,   look for desktop effects in the apperance dialog and compiz in synaptic
[01:50] <NativeAngels> hello can anyone here tell me how to install tcl on an ubuntu box
[01:50] <binarical-app> xif: your keyboard in particular
[01:50] <merlin__> compiz-fusion
[01:50] <NativeAngels> i have been getiin an error message
[01:50] <binarical-app> xif: mine too
[01:50] <merlin__> cool
[01:50] <Pelo> NativeAngels, did you check in the repos ?
[01:50] <merlin__> thanks
[01:50] <xif> binarical-app: really?  I talked to someone who installed Hardy beta on the same MBP (Santa Rosa) and reported no issues.
[01:50] <NativeAngels> yes
[01:50] <Starnestommy> NativeAngels: sudo apt-get install tcl8.4
[01:50] <deniz__> knobcottage, u there?
[01:51] <knobcottage> yes still here
[01:51] <deniz__> knobcottage, so how do i save them as 13 diff .jpgs?
[01:52] <knobcottage> hangon I'll just try
[01:52] <chicobo329> I checked my xorg.conf file and it has the monitor and resolutions I tried to define and tested properly when given the option to check my monitor type when in low graphics mode at bootup. Is there anything else I should do to the xorg.conf?
[01:52] <mrgenixus> does anyone kno whow to make a partition created in linux accessible in windows?
[01:52]  * Pelo hasn't spend this much time in the channel for a long time 
[01:52] <deniz__> knobcottage, k
[01:52] <deniz__> knobcottage, i use feisty btw
[01:52] <mrgenixus> specifically, fat32 partitions created in linux
[01:52] <Pelo> chicobo329, no , just save and restart X
[01:53] <knobcottage> I'm gutsy myself
[01:53] <Eleaf> anybody know of a way to disable jack in audacity?
[01:53] <Pelo> mrgenixus, it should be accessible straight off
[01:53] <Eleaf> I can't get audacity to just use normal alsa
[01:53] <knobcottage> you need to save each layer separately
[01:53] <JPRuskin> nice to have you here anyway, Pelo
[01:53] <knobcottage> it saves the layer you are looking at
[01:53] <Pelo> Eleaf, I think there is an #audacity  you might try askign in ther e
[01:53] <Survivorman> mrgenixus, http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help/33848-linuxfs-windows.html
[01:53] <Pelo> JPRuskin, wut %
[01:54] <Pelo> ?
[01:54] <flyback> is there a way to startup a seperate session/user off the livecd that something can login to?
[01:54] <Laptop765> hey, I'm running an IBM ThinkPad laptop and when I first installed 7.10, the vol up/down/mute buttons worked fine but then spontaneously, they stopped working, any ideas?
[01:54] <Eleaf> Pelo, yeah, I created that channel, nobody available.
[01:54] <JPRuskin> wut%?
[01:54] <Pelo> Eleaf, check in the audacity settings probably
[01:54] <flyback> i'm sick of changing screen resolution and end up locking myself out
[01:54] <knobcottage> why do you want them as jpgs?
[01:54] <Eleaf> Pelo, yes I have, nothing.
[01:54] <Pelo> JPRuskin, nvm ,  I just was confused about waht you were telling me,  I figured it out
[01:54] <troxor> flyback: try gdmflexiserver
[01:55] <Pelo> Eleaf, audacity website forum then maybe ?
[01:55] <flyback> thx
[01:55] <troxor> flyback: or something like startx -- :2.0
[01:55] <Eleaf> gah
[01:55] <Eleaf> need to edit a video now.  and nothing can record on my ubuntu machine..
[01:55] <Eleaf> pretty messed up.
[01:55] <flyback> no I mean the 2nd session would be 100% only for remote
[01:55] <flyback> for a old laptop I have
[01:55] <Pelo> Eleaf, avidemux ?
[01:56] <Eleaf> for audio?
[01:56] <Eleaf> I use cinelerra for video
[01:56] <Pelo> Eleaf,  no sorry for video
[01:56] <troxor> flyback: not sure what you mean...
[01:56] <Mba7eth> is there any alternative for expect lang?
[01:56] <flyback> nm I have another idea
[01:56] <binarical-app> Eleaf: you can select which sound device you would like to use under preferances - advanced settings
[01:56] <Eleaf> binarical-app, none of them work
[01:56] <tarelerulz> How is Deluge as an torrent client ?  Can you organize your torrent with some kind of name ?
[01:56] <Pelo> Mba7eth, try rewording your quesiton
[01:56] <Erickj92> hey TheCellist42
[01:57] <Eleaf> binarical-app, audacity just throws an error about pa.
[01:57] <Pelo> tarelerulz, try asking in #deluge
[01:57] <Eleaf> this normally works fine, I edit audio often.
[01:57] <Stwange> hey how do I remove the GCJ java that comes with Ubuntu? I'm not sure of the name of it for apt-get remove.
[01:57] <JPRuskin> I'm trying to edit xorg.conf, but it's set as read only with root as owner... do I have to... Ugh. How do I edit it? Sorry for being new.
[01:57] <Mba7eth> alternative for expect that can automate telnet
[01:57] <Eleaf> On this boot, audio recording doesn't work (nor playback in audacity, playback works in other programs).
[01:57] <Pelo> Stwange, search for java in synaptic
[01:57] <Eleaf> I tried uninstalling audacity.. still messed up and launches 'jack' at boot.
[01:58] <asds> hi, is this chat english only?
[01:58] <troxor> asds: yes
[01:58] <binarical-app> Eleaf: have you looked under your system sound settings in system preferances
[01:58] <Pelo> asds, yes , what language do you need ?
[01:58] <AndrewB> asds: yeah but we have a huge array of loco teams, so what is your fav language?
[01:58] <Eleaf> yes binarical-app, nothing there..
[01:58] <asds> german
[01:58] <Starnestommy> asds: try #ubuntu-de
[01:58] <Pelo> !de | asds
[01:58] <ubotu> asds: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:58] <Eleaf> binarical-app, all normal
[01:58] <asds> but i got no irc client, so i need a webchat
[01:58] <deniz__> knobcottage, i can only do 1 at a time, anyway i need to sleep now im very tired, thx for ur time
[01:58] <AndrewB> asds: try mibbit.com
[01:59] <binarical-app> Eleaf: i think your using a strage sound device perhaps you should get alsa as your main sound system
[01:59] <asds> worked, thx
[01:59] <Pelo> asds, if you are able to get to this channel just type  /join #ubuntu-de and you will get to the german channel
[01:59] <Eleaf> binarical-app, alsa IS my main sound system.
[01:59] <Eleaf> nothing else here.
[01:59] <mrgenixus> pelo: hench my confusion
[01:59] <Eleaf> binarical-app, all other programs seem to work fine (can't find another program for capture)
[01:59] <Eleaf> jack is not running, pulse audio is not running.
[01:59] <mrgenixus> Survivorman: it's fat32.
[01:59] <Eleaf> just ALSA
[01:59] <Stwange> cheers Pelo
[01:59] <knobcottage> deniz bye
[02:00] <binarical-app> Eleaf: what kind of sound card do you have ?
[02:00] <Pelo> mrgenixus, is this on an internal hdd or on some external usb flash drive ?
[02:00] <mrgenixus> external drive, enclosure
[02:00] <Eleaf> binarical-app, built into motherboard.
[02:00] <Eleaf> I edit audio almost every day.
[02:00] <mrgenixus> I can create and read partitions created in the free space on the drive, but not the existing fat32 ones
[02:00] <binarical-app> Eleaf: also it could be that the souce that youd like to plug is being occupied by another device or application
[02:01] <Eleaf> binarical-app, I tried rebooting several times
[02:01] <Pelo> mrgenixus, how many partitions on it ?
[02:01] <binarical-app> Eleaf: rebooting wont help
[02:01] <schizorichard> the elite hackers site is back up :)
[02:01] <Survivorman> !xglx
[02:01] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[02:01] <mrgenixus> 3, well 2, initially
[02:01] <Eleaf> binarical-app, oh, the gnome sound prefereces is saying "Failed to construct test pipeline for 'gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat"  for sound capture
[02:01] <mrgenixus> I added one with windows to make 3 total
[02:01] <binarical-app> yeah i get that too sometimes
[02:01] <schizorichard> www.elite-hackers.com
[02:01] <binarical-app> Eleaf: well can you test your sound
[02:01] <Pelo> mrgenixus, it is primary or logical ? that might make a diff,  try making it primary
[02:01] <Eleaf> binarical-app, huh?
[02:02] <sculework> ²
[02:02] <binarical-app> Eleaf: in system preferances sound
[02:02] <Eleaf> binarical-app, that's what I did, and it gives that error for sound capture
[02:02] <Eleaf> playback is fine
[02:02] <sculework> oops, bed time
[02:02] <Pelo> mrgenixus, I'm assuming that windows can see the other partitiions ?
[02:02] <Pelo> sculework, yo donT' expect us to tuck you in do you ?
[02:02] <mrgenixus> windows can see all of the partitions, it just doesn't recognize them as readable
[02:03] <binarical-app> Eleaf: do you know what could have caused the system to start acting this way?
[02:03] <Pelo> mrgenixus, I would suggest you ask in ##windows,   there might be something simple you need to do in windows
[02:03] <mrgenixus> oh. maybe
[02:03] <Eleaf> binarical-app, nope
[02:03] <sculework> Pelo: not tonight, thanks for the thought though, g'nite :)
[02:04] <Eleaf> just moved the computer to another house.
[02:04] <Eleaf> I absolutely have to get this sound recording and video editing done.
[02:04] <Eleaf> It's getting late, due tomorrow, big project.
[02:04] <binarical-app> Eleaf: whoa you need a spare sound card?
[02:04] <Eleaf> binarical-app, no..
[02:04] <ChUrRo> Hi evryone
[02:04] <binarical-app> Eleaf: i use an external, via firewire
[02:04] <Eleaf> the soundcard works fine binarical-app
[02:05] <Eleaf> I can hear input playing.
[02:05] <Pelo> ok I'm done, g'night folks
[02:05] <NativeAngels> how do i install tk on a ubuntu box
[02:05] <Eleaf> I just can't record the input
[02:05] <binarical-app> gnight pelo
[02:05] <asds608> german room was ubuntu-de right?
[02:05] <Starnestommy> NativeAngels: sudo apt-get install tk8.4
[02:05] <Starnestommy> asds608: #ubuntu-de
[02:05] <binarical-app> so your app is simply not recieving it ?
[02:07] <ChUrRo> can someone help i had ubuntu 7.10 and i downloaded the 8.04 beta, the thing is that in 7.10 i had all power on visual effects i had it extra but with the beta version i only can get none, any one have a suggest
[02:07] <binarical-app> Eleaf: can you se your sound device in audacitys rec preferances?
[02:07] <Gilou> ChUrRo> you want #ubuntu+1
[02:07] <trypo>  /msg ubotu etiquett
[02:08] <Eleaf> yes binarical-app
[02:08] <Survivorman> !ettiquette
[02:08] <ubotu> Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See (in a private message with the bot, /msg ubotu <keyword>): !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam, !PM, !English - And most importantly, use common sense...
[02:08] <sixpence> Hey guys, can someone direct me to a DLINK wireless card howto?
[02:09] <Survivorman> !wireless
[02:09] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:09] <Dr_willis> sixpence,  dlink makes a lot of cards. :) you may want to figure out what chipset the card is using.
[02:09]  * jsoftw yawns at boring channel rules and ettiquette
[02:10] <binarical-app> Eleaf: for now lets try not to think about jack and such, if you want to use alsa you have to use pretty much the whole shebang, if you want to use jack then you have to use all jack.... or i found you run into alot of trouble
[02:10]  * Dr_willis removes jsoftw 's tonsils as he yawns.
[02:10] <ChUrRo> can someone help i had ubuntu 7.10 and i downloaded the 8.04 beta, the thing is that in 7.10 i had all power on visual effects i had it extra but with the beta version i only can get none, any one have a suggest, it seems that i have the drivers working fine, but really dont know what to do
[02:10] <Dr_willis> ChUrRo,  reinstall your video card drivers.
[02:10] <Dr_willis> ChUrRo,  and try compiz --replace,
[02:11] <ChUrRo> ok let me check
[02:11] <Caboose> is ccsm installed in the beta?
[02:11] <icanhasadmin> ChUrRo: try #compiz-fusion
[02:11] <Dr_willis> ChUrRo,  AND #Ubuntu+1 is the place for  beta questions/chat
[02:11] <icanhasadmin> Caboose: try #ubuntu+1
[02:11] <Dr_willis> there are some bugs in the lastest updates withthe nvida drivers.
[02:11] <Eleaf> binarical-app, I don't want to use jack!
[02:11] <dimas_> hello
[02:11] <adelie42> is there console web browser like lynx) that supports flash for the sake of audio? For example, I want to load music in the background, but don't need as much as firefox offers
[02:12] <ChUrRo> ok sorry
[02:12] <binarical-app> Eleaf: then remove it
[02:12] <Eleaf> binarical-app, audacity runs it's own version on boot
[02:12] <flinttown420> anyone know of a dual layer burning app that supports layer break or .dvd files?
[02:12] <Eleaf> JACK compiled with System V SHM support.
[02:12] <Eleaf> loading driver ..
[02:12] <Eleaf> creating alsa driver ... hw:0|hw:0|1024|2|48000|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit
[02:12] <Eleaf> control device hw:0
[02:12] <FloodBot1> Eleaf: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:13] <dimas_> i want to install .tgz from the terminal, anyone willing to walk me throw?
[02:13] <adelie42> flinttown420: worst case, nero works great under wine, just fyi
[02:13] <binarical-app> Eleaf: oh see there, audacity is trying to use alsa, but jack has taken it
[02:13] <flinttown420> a burning app that supports .dvd would be fine since it has the layer break in the file itself\
[02:14] <Eleaf> binarical-app, jack doesn't run when I do ps aux | grep jack
[02:14] <flinttown420> i dont have nero on this HD ntfs support is shotty and i have a 400gb vista HD
[02:14] <flinttown420> cant mount it for some reason
[02:14] <dimas_> !help
[02:14] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:14] <Eleaf> binarical-app, jack isn't running
[02:14] <binarical-app> Eleaf: can you tell me how jack came into the picture
[02:14] <dimas_> !installing tgz file
[02:14] <Eleaf> binarical-app, audacity says 'jack', as typed above
[02:15] <Eleaf> JACK compiled with System V SHM support. loading driver ..
[02:15] <sixpence> Does the ubuntu cd have the wifi-tools package on it?
[02:15] <Eleaf> maybe it's unrelated.  I just can't get sound input working
[02:15] <Dr_willis> dimas_,  read the docs for the code first? uncompress it, cd to dir, ./configure, make, sudo make install
[02:15] <Dr_willis> dimas_,  plus you will need any needed depenedencies isntalled first.
[02:16] <blackfactor> Does anybody here know of any good python channels?
[02:16] <binarical-app> Eleaf: where are you getting that information
[02:16] <icanhasadmin> #python ?
[02:16] <Eleaf> binarical-app, from running audacity in the terminal
[02:16] <dimas_> dr_willis i have the box on the desl top
[02:16] <binarical-app> Eleaf: can you work with  gui?the
[02:16] <sixpence> How do I figure out what flavor of Ubunt i have? ( gutsy, feisty etc.)
[02:17] <binarical-app> Eleaf: can you work with the gui  please?
[02:17] <dimas_> decompressing from terminal?
[02:17] <icanhasadmin> sixpence: grub should tell you when you boot
[02:17] <sixpence> icanhasadmin: a comamnd line command would be nice
[02:17] <binarical-app> Eleaf: not in the terminal
[02:17] <flinttown420> so all in all i need a DL dvd burning app that supports layer break
[02:17] <Eleaf> binarical-app, no, that's unwise
[02:17] <Eleaf> then you can't tell what the problem is!
[02:17] <icanhasadmin> sixpence: sudo cat /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[02:17] <Dr_willis> dimas_,  if you mean you ahve the source code archive on the desktopm then it can be found in the /home/USERNAME/Desktop directory.  You may want to read a few commandline/bash tutorials befor attempting tocompile stuff from source.
[02:18] <Dr_willis> dimas_,  you WILL need to use the shell quite a bit.
[02:18] <binarical-app> Eleaf: this way you will have to be an audacity hacker to know where your going wrong
[02:18] <Flannel> icanhasadmin, sixpence, you shouldn't need to sudo that.
[02:18] <vanthanh85t> heelo
[02:18] <dimas_> dr_willis thanks
[02:18] <troxor> !hi
[02:18] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:18] <coriander> Is there a web page to search the Hardy repository to see which version of a package will be installed?
[02:19] <vanthanh85t> who are you?
[02:19] <Eleaf> binarical-app, I am an audacity hacker ;p
[02:19] <sixpence> icanhasadmin: Nah, that just sais Ubuntu 7.01
[02:19] <binarical-app> Eleaf: wise is as wise does
[02:19] <vanthanh85t> haha
[02:19] <Eleaf> hmm
[02:19] <jaffarkelshac> paulr, was i talking to you about lcd brightness
[02:19] <Survivorman> coriander, you might want to check packages.ubuntu.com
[02:19] <vanthanh85t> i can't setup music for ubutu
[02:20] <sixpence> How do I figure out what flavor of Ubunt i have? ( gutsy, feisty etc.)
[02:20] <matt__> I have a "server" downstairs. If I install SSH on it and set it up, can I then install (putty???) upstairs and control the server from upstairs?
[02:20] <Flannel> coriander: packages.ubuntu.com
[02:20] <jaffarkelshac> vanthanh85t, you cant play mp3?
[02:20] <troxor> matt__: yes
[02:20] <vanthanh85t> yes
[02:20] <Eleaf> Here's a bunch of others with the same problem... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gstreamer/+bug/131711
[02:20] <jaffarkelshac> which player are you using
[02:20] <Flannel> matt__: Yes.  On windows you'll (probably) use Putty, if your upstairs box is *nix, you'll just use ssh.
[02:20] <matt__> troxor: so, will the commands be the same? IE, after "sshing in", can i run sudo apt-get update
[02:21] <matt__> Flannel: well...nix upstairs too buddy
[02:21] <binarical-app> yes
[02:21] <troxor> matt__: yes, ssh will give a terminal just like a local terminal
[02:21] <Flannel> matt__: logging in via SSH is identical to logging in at the machine.
[02:21] <safaricity> sixpence: you´re on gutsy
[02:21] <coriander> Survivorman, thanks (also, love your show :) )
[02:21] <vanthanh85t> chat yahoo on ubutu?
[02:21] <coriander> Flannel, thanks to you too
[02:21] <matt__> Flannel: troxor awesome, this is what i was hoping for. Also, if i setup ssh right, i could us a portable version of putty (usb) to hookup to my server from anywhere, given my ip. correct?
[02:21] <safaricity> vanthanh85t, have you tried pidgin or kopete
[02:22] <flinttown420> hrmm wonder if k3b supports layer break
[02:22] <cowbud> what tells apt what arch you are running? Like say I am running x86_64 and I want to install i386 packages (I know not recommended, besides the point) somehow it knows to grab my arch how do I override that?
[02:22] <troxor> matt__: yup
[02:22] <Ann> hola
[02:22] <vanthanh85t> can you help me
[02:22] <troxor> matt__: or pspssh on a psp, on a nokia phone like maddox, anywhere :)
[02:22] <matt__> troxor: awesome. So I am going to do this for certain. However, how difficult would you say doing this would be?
[02:22] <Flannel> matt__: default is "right" for that, as far as the server is concerned, you just have to make sure your router is forwarding properly (and get a dyndns, its easier than remembering an IP)
[02:23] <safaricity> vanthanh85t, in a terminal, sudo aptitude install pidgin kopete
[02:23] <matt__> Flannel: dyndns..heard of it...i believe.
[02:23] <safaricity> will install both
[02:23] <Flannel> matt__: On a scale of 1 to 10: 1.5, 1 being opening a web browser.
[02:23] <troxor> matt__: not very difficult at all, depending on your network, just install openssh-server (or somesuch) and you'll be on your way
[02:23] <matt__> Flannel: troxor so uh...forwarding my ports? TO THE SERVER, correct?
[02:24] <binarical-app> forwarding the servers ports not yours, you will only use one port , 22
[02:24] <delfick> hello, I have a few .c files I wish to print. is there some nice program out there that will let me print them all into the same file ?
[02:24] <Flannel> matt__: yes.  Its best to set up a static IP for your server (that is, static on your LAN), and yes, forward to that box.
[02:24] <matt__> binarical-app: that towards me?
[02:24] <binarical-app> yes
[02:24] <matt__> Flannel: 192.168.1.250...already doing so
[02:24] <dimas_> dr_willis you there?
[02:24] <Dr_willis> delfick,  same file?   there are code 'printing' utilities out that can make the code look nicer/format it.
[02:25] <Dr_willis> dimas_,  im here and out and back, and so forth all day
[02:25] <oren> windows frame are missing - ubuntu 8.04 ... any ideas?
[02:25] <troxor> delfick: you can cat them all together to a new file, then use a2ps on that
[02:25] <matt__> binarical-app: so the "server" is 192.168.1.250....shall i forward port 22 on my router to that?
[02:25] <Flannel> oren: #ubuntu+1 for Hardy support, thanks
[02:25] <Flannel> matt__: yes
[02:25] <oren> Flannel, thanks
[02:25] <dimas_> dr_willis i had decompress how i configure and make before i sudo?
[02:26] <matt__> Flannel: is ssh pretty secure, given i use a decent password?
[02:26] <troxor> matt__: once you get ssh set up, run screen on your server for maximum enjoyment :)
[02:26] <matt__> Flannel: or do i need to really get into that?
[02:26] <Dr_willis> dimas_,  cd to the dir, and run the commands.
[02:26] <binarical-app> no, you will have to set up an account with dynamicdns.com then you will set up your router via its network address to forward the needed port to the dyndns domain
[02:26] <delfick> Dr_willis, k then, such as ?? .... troxor, will that show header information as well for each ,c file
[02:26] <dimas_> ok
[02:26] <Dr_willis> dimas_,  bash/shell basics. I imagine you will need to install the 'build-essential' package also first.
[02:26] <dimas_> got you
[02:26] <binarical-app> port 22 is the port needed to log onto your .250
[02:26] <troxor> delfick: just do something like `cat *.h *.c > printme && a2ps printme`
[02:27] <matt__> binarical-app: right now i am only working on lan..not internets
[02:27] <binarical-app> when you install open ssh and client , these ports will be configured for you
[02:27] <matt__> troxor: what is screen?
[02:27] <dimas_> dr_willis is the piece of software to connect to shoutcast to stream music
[02:27] <Eleaf> binarical-app, thank you for attempts at helping ;)
[02:27] <Dr_willis> delfick,  a quick 'apt-cache search print | grep code' shows    trueprint - pretty printing of source code
[02:27] <binarical-app> okay so install open ssh and itc lient if you dont already hav it as part of the server installation
[02:27] <Flannel> matt__: You needn't worry about being sniffed or anything, no.  Connect on the thumbdrive once from a known good location (to exchange keys, to prevent MiTM).  But yeah, if they guess your password, they login.  That's the only issue.  Also, either set a non-default port, or look into DenyHosts, since you'll get hammered otherwise (just brute force attacks).
[02:27] <troxor> matt__: $DIETY's gift to the world ;) http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/09/27/a-guide-to-gnu-screen/
[02:28] <matt__> binarical-app: no monitor or keyboard, so i'll have to do it later or something...
[02:28] <binarical-app> Eleaf: sorry it didnt work so well . peace out
[02:28] <Dr_willis> dimas_,   you will want 'build-essential' installed for aabout any code compiling.
[02:28] <Eleaf> binarical-app, I'm going to try updating to hardy heron, and see if I get any different results, later.
[02:28] <dimas_> dr_willis i dont get it
[02:28] <matt__> Flannel: so use a nonstandard port, one besides 22. use a good password...got it.
[02:28] <binarical-app> matt__: youll need to set it up with a head at first,
[02:28] <delfick> troxor, that works but I need to know file names as well in that file, Dr_willis, will look at that, thnx :)
[02:28] <matt__> binarical-app: head?
[02:29] <binarical-app> monitor keyboard
[02:29] <Flannel> matt__: Or DenyHosts (which blacklist IPs after N bad attacks within a given time frame)
[02:29] <matt__> binarical-app: correct
[02:29] <binarical-app> monitor keyboard are a have?
[02:29] <matt__> Flannel: ok..that sounds good, deny hosts, i'll remember that.
[02:29] <binarical-app> i think im confusing you
[02:29] <matt__> Flannel: binarical-app so does someone have a good tutorial i can use while i try this?
[02:30] <Flannel> matt__: If you go to a non-standard port, it shouldn't become an issue though.  But, I suppose it could
[02:30] <kindofabuzz> anyone attempted to upgrade gnome to 2.22 in gutsy?
[02:30] <tarelerulz> What is a the best search tool for you local computer ?  to find files and such
[02:30] <matt__> binarical-app: Flannel should it take less than 30 minutes overall?
[02:30] <binarical-app> there are good wikis on the subject by searching the relevant topics
[02:30] <xb3rt> Anyone know of a good dvd ripper and movie editor
[02:30] <matt__> troxor: google...google desktop i like
[02:30] <binarical-app> setting up the server yes
[02:30] <Flannel> matt__: SSH? yes.  It'll take... 5 minutes, maybe.  95% of that is downloading the package based on your connection speed.
[02:30] <binarical-app> google : ubuntu server how to
[02:30] <troxor> xb3rt: k9copy is good for dvd ripping, don't know about the gnome equivalent
[02:30] <binarical-app> google ssh ubuntu server how to
[02:31] <matt__> Flannel: perhaps i'll try
[02:31] <matt__> right now...
[02:31] <tarelerulz> xb3rt  k9copy is  good one and ogmrip is good one too.
[02:31] <kindofabuzz> howtoforge has a good server tutorial
[02:31] <Flannel> matt__: There's no need for a howto.  Install the server package (openssh-server), and connect!
[02:31] <Flannel> howtoforge is a load of rubbish.
[02:31] <kindofabuzz> worked for me
[02:31] <binarical-app> flannel is right
[02:31] <troxor> tarelerulz: tracker, beagle, slocate
[02:31] <xb3rt> troxor: tarelerulz: are those in the repo?
[02:32] <binarical-app> troxor: try using aptitude instead of apt-get
[02:32] <tarelerulz> Ogmrip is not in the repository ,but just google its homepage and you good to to.  k9copy is in the repo
[02:32] <troxor> binarical-app: creature of habit :)
[02:33] <flinttown420> so anyone know of a dual layer dvd program that supports layer breaks?
[02:33] <binarical-app> troxor hi 5
[02:33] <cowbud> BURN APT BURN
[02:33] <flinttown420> ?
[02:33] <cowbud> Amd -> i386
[02:33] <cowbud> BriuNg It
[02:34] <tarelerulz> xb3rt:  DVD::rip is other one ,but I have not had good luck with it. It might work better for you
[02:34] <dimas_> dr_willis sudo what?
[02:34] <troxor> flinttown420: any recent one, k3b perhaps
[02:34] <binarical-app> sudo -s always works
[02:34] <flinttown420> none i found support layer break
[02:35] <flinttown420> just tried k3b, basero
[02:35] <flinttown420> will not give option for manual layer break
[02:36] <cowbud> ohh noes dpkg --force-all -i *.deb
[02:36] <cowbud> WHAT WHAT
[02:36] <broken> Hey guys I have an issue, I upgraded to hardy heron and everything was pretty smooth and everthing worked however now.. what is happening is I will double click on an app, or try to start the update manager it pops up in the bottom as its loading then it just dies, I can't open any app.
[02:36] <pclynch> how do you delete a dir that has files in it?
[02:36] <amenado> !hardy | broken
[02:36] <ubotu> broken: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[02:36] <dimas_> flinttown420 sudo -s doesnt execute binary file
[02:37] <flinttown420> what are you talking about
[02:37] <flinttown420> im on a whole different topic brotha
[02:37] <broken> ok..
[02:37] <troxor> flinttown420: did you notice if the actual command (growisofs) was using -use-the-force-luke options?
[02:37] <dimas_> flinttown420...sorry
[02:37] <flinttown420> np:)
[02:37] <flinttown420> i'll just use imgburn with wine i guess
[02:38] <binarical-app> sudo -s gives you root access it changes you to root
[02:38] <dimas_> i want to install a piece of program from the terminal....sudo what?
[02:38] <kindofabuzz> anyone got a howto to upgrade to 2.22 on ubuntu 7.10?
[02:38] <kindofabuzz> gnome that is
[02:38] <nikrud> binarical-app sudo -i is usually preferred, it sets up a true root terminal
[02:38] <kindofabuzz> yes i know it's in hardy
[02:38] <matt___> binarical-app: MATT HERE, just setup the sshserver
[02:38] <matt___> binarical-app: just wondering...where is the config file for it?
[02:39] <dimas_> nikrud thanks
[02:39] <Flannel> matt___: /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[02:39] <troxor> kindofabuzz: you could take packages for hardy, try to install them and see what happens. don't blame me if anything breaks though :)
[02:39] <CJS3141> I downloaded this program called "hardinfo" from the repositories, and it often crashes when I try to use it, saying "Segmentation fault (core dumped)". Anything I can do or is it useless?
[02:39] <kindofabuzz> troxor: yeah i thought about that
[02:39] <matt___> Flannel: random port?
[02:40] <troxor> kindofabuzz: alternatively, you could build the entire thing from source to /usr/local or somesuch- depends on how bad you want it ;)
[02:40] <hamalawy> hello there, i was wondering who to upgrade to hardy haron without affecting my current system, settings..etc
[02:40] <Flannel> troxor, kindofabuzz, if you want to backport, use prevu (see !prevu), but I wouldn't backport soemthing so major.
[02:40] <Flannel> matt___: What?  Well, pick something that isn't going to be used by something.
[02:40] <kindofabuzz> yeah, i wish someone had a .deb for it
[02:40] <nikrud> kindofabuzz you should look into jhbuild if you want to compile gnome, it automates it pretty well
[02:40] <kindofabuzz> lol
[02:40] <matt___> Flannel: binarical-app so something random and made up work?
[02:40] <troxor> Flannel: cool, that's a new one
[02:40] <kindofabuzz> nikrud: what about that garnome or whatever it is
[02:41] <amirman84> does anyone have the patience to help an ubernoob with some simple bash commands?
[02:41] <Flannel> matt___: Yes, You just don't want to usesomething thats commonly used for somethign else.
[02:41] <nikrud> kindofabuzz jhbuild has perty much replaced it (last I looked)
[02:41] <unop> amirman84, ask a question
[02:41] <matt___> Flannel: gotcha
[02:41] <Flannel> matt___: after you make the changes to the config, `sudo /etc/init.d/sshd restart` will restart it
[02:42] <matt___> Flannel: ok...just trying to figure out the password deal...
[02:42] <unop> matt__, i'd use something like 10022 .. the chances of a port used this high are low and it's easy to remember
[02:42] <matt___> Flannel: where/how do i change it?
[02:42] <amirman84> ok, i've looked for the answer in the obvious places already but i think what i'm looking for is so simple that no one thought to include it on any bash command lists that i've found.  i'm wondering how to i navigate from folder to folder from the terminal?
[02:42] <matt___> Flannel: is it just the password for a/the/any user on the machine?
[02:43] <binarical-app> the one you put in at set up
[02:43] <magicsword> hello everyone...does anyone anything about Limewire peer to peer for ubuntu?
[02:43] <troxor> amirman84: cd directory :)
[02:43] <Dr_willis> !limewire | magicsword
[02:43] <ubotu> magicsword: limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install /msg ubotu java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider /msg ubotu FrostWire as an alternative.
[02:44] <Flannel> matt___: yes, its exactly like logging in locally
[02:44] <amirman84> troxor: does "cd.." also work?
[02:44] <nikrud> amirman84   linuxcommands.org  is a good primer
[02:44] <JohnMM> !java first
[02:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about java first - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:44] <Dr_willis> magicsword,  i perfer 'frostwire' to limewire.
[02:44] <tarelerulz> magicsword, I have tryed limewire for Ubuntu and it works just like the windows version
[02:44] <JPRuskin> magicsword: I'd recommend Frostwire above Limewire
[02:44] <nikitis> Anyone know the irc server/channel for PS3-Linux?
[02:44] <matt___> Flannel: so i'll use username and password ehh....so i should change the userpassword to something good ehh...
[02:44] <amirman84> thanks
[02:44] <troxor> amirman84: use `cd ..` instead
[02:44] <Dr_willis> JohnMM,  its saying to follow the !java factoid first and install java. :)
[02:44] <binarical-app> matt no one can hack you right now
[02:44] <JohnMM> ah
[02:44] <Dr_willis> amirman84,  'alias cd..='cd ..'
[02:44] <amirman84> thanks troxor and nikrud
[02:44] <matt___> Flannel: binarical-app why is that?
[02:45] <binarical-app> ***matt can hack himself
[02:45] <Dr_willis> that alias does wonders for dos users.. :)
[02:45] <Flannel> matt___: Why is what?
[02:45] <amirman84> and dr_willis
[02:45] <binarical-app> you are behind a firewall that is your router
[02:45] <tj13823> how do i kill XServer and GDM to install NVidia drivers from a .run file?
[02:45] <matt___> Flannel: he said noone can hack me right now...
[02:45] <Dr_willis> amirman84,  that corrects the lazy 'we dont need no space' teachings of dos. :)
[02:45] <magicsword> thanks for the info Dr
[02:45] <matt___> binarical-app: so that will someone protect me? Flannel is this correct?
[02:45] <Flannel> matt___: Until you port forward, people trying to connect to your IP get blocked at the router, they don't actually touch your server
[02:46] <nikrud> tj13823  clt-alt-f2, login,   sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop , do your nvidia stuff, sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start , clt-atl-f7 to get to gui if needed
[02:46] <nikitis> tj13823, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[02:46] <binarical-app> flannel is right
[02:46] <matt___> Flannel: got you. so unless i want to forward it so i can use it at school or something perhaps..i'm safe...cool.
[02:46] <matt___> lettme go try it upstairs....
[02:46] <hamalawy> since hardy haron is about to be released, can i upgrade to hardy haron without changing my current settings and programs?
[02:46] <nikitis> tj13823, from tty1
[02:46] <CJS3141> If I get a "Segmentation fault (core dumped)" error when I try using a program, is there anything I can do to troubleshoot or is it hopeless?
[02:46] <tarelerulz> How would you search the text on a web page So you say find  to  rather then the word tool ?
[02:46] <tj13823> ?
[02:46] <binarical-app> but dont worry about hacking, no one can get to you since your ip is changingvery often
[02:46] <nikrud> tarelerulz   hit   /   and firefox opens a search window
[02:46] <Flannel> hamalawy: Yes, but its not "about" to be released.  End of April.  But yeah, upgrading is normal, just like always
[02:46] <kindofabuzz> ok i installed Beagle but see no option to use it, is it just cl?
[02:46] <amirman84> linuxcommands.org is a parked domain btw
[02:46] <nikitis> tj13823, tty1 = Ctrl+Alt+F1
[02:47] <Flannel> binarical-app: that's a rather poor way to look at it.
[02:47] <Flannel> !cli | amirman84
[02:47] <ubotu> amirman84: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[02:47] <binarical-app> well now you have a clean system and your not using windows
[02:47] <nick_> irc://irc.abjects.net/stfu
[02:47] <binarical-app> where the problem is the applcations you run and not your network configurations
[02:47] <matt__> binarical-app: Flannel ok...so how to i use this thing? ssh ip port etc? etc? etc?
[02:47] <nikrud> amirman84 sorry,   linuxcommand.org
[02:47] <hamalawy> is there a command that i can type to make it automatically upgrade to hardy? sorry but i'm an absolute noob :)
[02:48] <Flannel> matt___: 'man ssh' gives you all the gorey details, but yeah. ssh -p [port] user@host
[02:48] <binarical-app> ssh usr@ipaddress
[02:48] <matt__> Flannel: binarical-app nevermind...already figured it out...
[02:48] <Flannel> hamalawy: #ubuntu+1 for hardy questions.  And if you're that new, you probably shouldn't be using Hardy until it's actually released.
[02:48] <binarical-app> yeppy, another satified costomer
[02:49] <binarical-app> 7me jumps up and down
[02:49] <nirgle> been trying to figure this out for hours.. i have a python script to do some sql querying once an hour.. a few hours ago i started getting error messages as output by cron, to my email
[02:49] <nirgle> a problem with the sql statement
[02:49]  * binarical-app jumps up and down 
[02:49] <matt__> Flannel: this is awesome....one question...if i want to edit the /etc/ssh/sshconfig or whatever, and then restart the ssh from upstairs using init.d, can i do this? can i restart the ssh remotely?
[02:49] <hamalawy> thanks binarical ;)
[02:49] <nirgle> so i changed the sql in the python script... only now.. i keep getting the same error message from cron
[02:49] <nirgle> every hour.. despite that i've updated the SQL
[02:49] <kindofabuzz> how does one use Beagle? i don't see it?
[02:49] <nirgle> any idaes where i can look to debug this?
[02:49] <tarelerulz> I understand how to use Firefox's text search ,but I was wondering if there was a way to have firefox or maybe other program to  Find The word to  rather then the To  in tool and every other word that has to in it ?
[02:49] <binarical-app> well youll have to set it to wake on lan
[02:49] <Flannel> matt__: yep
[02:49] <tushyd> i'm trying to get someone to SCP something from my computer. My router is set as my DHCP server, but do I still have to configure my modem to forward port 22?
[02:50] <Flannel> tushyd: yes, otherwise you'll never get to your computer. (unless they're on the same subnet)
[02:50] <kindofabuzz> tarelerulz: ctrl-f
[02:50] <matt__> Flannel: cool..and if i want to forward a port to the ip, i can. just use a nonstandard port and a good password, and then i can ssh from anywhere?
[02:50] <Flannel> matt__: yes
[02:50] <Flannel> matt__: and SCP too
[02:50] <matt__> Flannel: this is the coolest thing since ftp
[02:50] <matt__> Flannel: but not sure what scp is...
[02:50] <Flannel> matt__: SCP is FTP over SSH, basically.
[02:50] <EL> HOLA
[02:50] <Gilou> scp is cp over SSH
[02:51] <matt__> Flannel: oh...cool. couldn't i use cp?
[02:51] <tushyd> Flannel: Well I tried having both my modem (dhcp off) and my router (dhcp on) forward port 22 to my machine's ip address but my sister still gets a timeout on her end
[02:51] <Gilou> it has nothing to do with FTP :p
[02:51] <Flannel> matt__: So now you have a way to connect, and grab files (Filezilla does SCP)
[02:51] <troxor> tarelerulz: <space>to<space ;)
[02:51] <EL> ALGUIEN EN ESPAÑOL
[02:51] <Flannel> !es | EL
[02:51] <ubotu> EL: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[02:51] <binarical-app> yeah pretty much, be carefull tho since if your home server is pliable then it is also possible for other computers who have been given your encryption key on log in, also can sniff the network
[02:51] <matt__> binarical-app: right now...well in a few minutes...my server won't even be "online", or visible to the internet...
[02:51] <Joeb454> !caps | el
[02:51] <ubotu> el: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[02:52] <Flannel> tushyd: Is she behind the same router?  I assume not.  DHCP shouldn't make any difference.
[02:52]  * ryanakca tries to find the factoid for a locked dpkg
[02:52] <tushyd> she is on the other side of the country
[02:52] <nikrud> !aptfix | ryanakca
[02:52] <ubotu> ryanakca: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[02:52] <ryanakca> nikrud: thanks :)
[02:52] <hitman51> hey can anyone here help me?
[02:52] <binarical-app> no it will only be once you log into it from another computer from a different network
[02:52] <ryanakca> !ask | hitman51
[02:52] <ubotu> hitman51: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[02:52] <genii> nikrud: Heh, beat me to it
[02:52] <nikrud> ryanakca heh. got the right nick this time :)
[02:52] <ryanakca> nikrud: lol, yep :D
[02:53] <hitman51> oh sorry
[02:53] <hitman51> lol
[02:53] <dsnyders> Hi all!  Has anyone here gotten their linux+ certification?
[02:53] <Flannel> !offtopic | dsnyders
[02:53] <ubotu> dsnyders: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:53] <hitman51> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[02:53] <hitman51> root@ns2014645:~#
[02:53] <hitman51> root@ns2014645:~# sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:53] <hitman51> dpkg: failed to write status record about `libc6' to `/var/lib/dpkg/status': No space left on device
[02:53] <FloodBot1> hitman51: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:53] <tushyd> Flannel, I gave her the command "scp -r username@ipaddress:location local-location" and I used the actual ip address not my local one
[02:53] <hitman51> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62088/
[02:53] <hitman51> someone help me with http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62088/
[02:53] <nikrud> hitman51 you out of space on your / partition ?
[02:54] <hitman51> yea
[02:54] <AndyRoid> join #yellowdog
[02:54] <hitman51> but i can only use camands
[02:54] <Dr_willis> Thats a bad sign. :)
[02:54] <hitman51> commands*
[02:54] <hitman51> because it is a dedicated server
[02:54] <Dr_willis> use a command to remove the old apt packages. and clean /tmp :)
[02:54] <hitman51> rented...through a company
[02:54] <Gilou> hitman51> clean up some space
[02:54] <tarelerulz> troxor you are the man. I have wondered that for a long time
[02:54] <hitman51> can you give me some commands i can use
[02:54] <Gilou> the partition /var is on is full
[02:54] <hitman51> im a total n00b...well i know a little
[02:54] <Gilou> df -h
[02:54] <Gilou> to check
[02:54] <Gilou> aptitude clean to clean up a little bit
[02:54] <nikrud> hitman51   hitman51  sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/*
[02:55] <troxor> tarelerulz: keyboard navigation is the way to go :)
[02:55] <Flannel> tushyd: First, can she connect via SSH?
[02:55] <tushyd> no, it times out
[02:55] <hitman51> rm: cannot remove `/var/cache/apt/archives/': Is a directory
[02:55] <nikrud> hitman51 you missed the *
[02:55] <tarelerulz> troxor what do you mean by "keyboard navigation"
[02:55] <Flannel> nikrud, hitman51, sudo apt-get clean
[02:55] <hitman51> same thing nikrud
[02:56] <kronoman> if I install windows xp on a partition that I had, will I be able to boot ubuntu again?
[02:56] <nikrud> Flannel apt-get is broked until his dpkg --configure -a works
[02:56] <hitman51> i got the same thing...when i added the *
[02:56] <kronoman> this machine has only ubuntu on her
[02:56] <hitman51> so what shsould i do nikrud?
[02:56] <tushyd> Flannel, i think it's something with my home network, I did it when i was on my university campus without any problems
[02:56] <troxor> tarelerulz: navigating using only the keyboard? i.e. using slash-search in firefox/opera and typing links instead of clicking on them
[02:56] <nikrud> hitman51 you probably got that for partial in that dir, that's fine. Try   df -h , see if you have space now
[02:56] <matt__> Flannel: works awesome...thanks...
[02:56] <Flannel> kronoman: Yes, but you'll need to reinstall GRUB to the MBR after windows overwrites it.
[02:56] <Flannel> !grub | kronoman, first link
[02:56] <ubotu> kronoman, first link: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:56] <J-_> Is there anything like kalarm for gnome?
[02:57] <hitman51> okay
[02:57] <PEDRO> ALGUIEN DE HABLA HIAPNA
[02:57] <jamesgc> Hi. I have this command "./application &"... What's the command line to get the PID number and print to pid.file?
[02:57] <Erickj92> what do i need to apt-get to get the GTK libs?
[02:57] <Dr_willis> J-_,  you could install/use kalarm under gnome if you wanted
[02:57] <hitman51> ive got 0.1G
[02:57] <kronoman> thanks Flannel I will print that page to keep as reference
[02:57] <J-_> Dr_willis: K, I'll try it out
[02:57] <kronoman> I mean, the part that I will need to reinstall grub
[02:57] <Dr_willis> hitman51,  heh. how much space total ya got?
[02:57] <hitman51> ah nice its good enough
[02:57] <hitman51> total is 5 gigs on that partition
[02:57] <troxor> !shout | PEDRO
[02:57] <ubotu> PEDRO: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[02:57] <hitman51> or something..
[02:57] <hitman51> on the other partition its 250 gigs
[02:58] <nikrud> hitman51 wow, what all you got there ? Ah, a small / partition
[02:58] <Dr_willis> hitman51,   depending on your needs you may want to move /tmp or somthing to the other partition.
[02:58] <hitman51> i got 250 gigs on the other
[02:58] <hitman51> lol
[02:58] <Erickj92> what do i need to apt-get to get the GTK libs so i can program with gtk+?
[02:58] <troxor> jamesgc: pidof
[02:59] <flinttown420> wtf
[02:59] <matt__> Flannel: so ok...this is confusing...as the ssh terminal window has the same "name" as my regular. do you know where/how i can change the "computer name" for the server via terminal?
[02:59] <flinttown420> nero linux 3 doesnt support manual layer break
[02:59] <Dr_willis> matt__,  you could set a different prompt.
[02:59] <matt__> Dr_willis: prompt?
[02:59] <wittyphotons> hello! quick question: where would i go to remap the default ctrl-alt-backspace shutdown function to just suspend instead of shutdown?
[02:59] <Dr_willis> matt__,  hostname is the command to set the hostname. but changing it can be ahassle.
[02:59] <binarical-app> matt__: you could change its name
[02:59] <Dr_willis> matt__,  yes the   text shown at the start of each command line.
[03:00] <hitman51> root@ns2014645:~# vnc server:1
[03:00] <hitman51> -bash: vnc: command not found
[03:00] <hitman51> root@ns2014645:~# vncserver :1
[03:00] <hitman51> The program 'vncserver' can be found in the following packages:
[03:00] <hitman51>  * tightvncserver
[03:00] <troxor> flinttown420: did you try -use-the-force-luke=break:NNNN
[03:00] <FloodBot1> hitman51: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:00] <hitman51>  * vnc4server
[03:00] <matt__> binarical-app: wanting to..but how, via terminal?
[03:00] <Erickj92> what do i need to apt-get to get the GTK libs so i can program with gtk+?
[03:00] <Dr_willis> willis@laptop:~(.001 Mb)$   is my prompt. :)
[03:00] <flinttown420> with what
[03:00] <kronoman> there is a way to boot ubuntu from a 2gb pendrive?
[03:00] <matt__> Dr_willis: that is what i am wanting to do..but how?
[03:00] <binarical-app> matt__. try making a new user first
[03:00] <hitman51> nikud...how do i fix http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62089/
[03:00] <Dr_willis> matt__,  read the 'bash prompt howto' :)  export PS1='fancy new prompt #'
[03:00] <troxor> flinttown420: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=113514
[03:00] <matt__> binarical-app: ahhh...don't want to have to fool with that if i don't have to...i have a lot of stuff setup weird...
[03:00] <binarical-app> carefull now dont get rid of the old one, just dont use it, you may need it later
[03:01] <Dr_willis> matt__,   export PS1='This_is_The_Other_Machine #'
[03:01] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:01] <jamesgc> troxor: thanks
[03:01] <matt__> Dr_willis: that is sorta what i want...
[03:01] <binarical-app> you can, just make two users, i say this so that you dont lock yourself out
[03:01] <Dr_willis> matt__,  thers 10000's of different prompts out there ya can setup. :)  the bash prompt howto - makes a fun read
[03:02] <ari_stress> morning
[03:02] <jjohns63> hi everyone, can someone help me please?
[03:02] <Erickj92> what do i need to apt-get to get the GTK libs so i can program with gtk+???
[03:03] <Adantan_Alex> jjohns63: yes with?
[03:03] <troxor> Erickj92: libgtk-devel or somesuch
[03:03] <Dr_willis> Erickj92,  try apt-cache search dev | grep gtk   for a list?
[03:03] <magicsword> ok...I located frostwire....where do I find and install java???
[03:03] <jjohns63> I'm setting up a new system, but the motherboard's ethernet is not working. I found the driver from realtek, however I can't compile it without build-essential. How can I install build-essential with no network connection?
[03:03] <Odd-rationale> !java
[03:03] <ubotu> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[03:03] <Dr_willis> !java | magicsword
[03:03] <ubotu> magicsword: please see above
[03:03] <Dr_willis> like the bot factoud said. follow the '!java' factiod >:)
[03:04] <magicsword> thank you Dr willis
[03:04] <Dr_willis> magicsword, you will want the actual SUN java. for frostwire
[03:04] <Adantan_Alex> jjohns63: does ubuntu detect your etherned adapter?
[03:04] <TwistedTX> hi all... any samba experts on?  having trouble getting a buffalo linkstation to mount under 7.10
[03:04] <Jumbodumbo> quit
[03:04] <wittyphotons> hello! quick question: where would i go to remap the default ctrl-alt-backspace shutdown function to just suspend instead of shutdown?
[03:04] <tarelerulz> magicswords I thinkg you can get the sun Java via synaptic .
[03:05] <jjohns63> it does, but there's no connection lspci gives Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconducto Co., RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ehternet controller
[03:06] <Adantan_Alex> jjohns63: did you try to troubleshoot it?
[03:06] <flinttown420> yea that would work troxor
[03:06] <binarical-app> ima sleep, have fun, be safe, read the mans
[03:06] <flinttown420> troxor, but im now sure about burning an iso file to a dual layer dvd with manual layer break command lines
[03:06] <jjohns63> I've tried ifconfig eth0 down and ifconfig eth0 up but it doesn't help
[03:06] <flinttown420> most everyone was movie's and what not
[03:06] <flinttown420> all i have is a iso file, that needs a specific layer break
[03:07] <jhuls> no es en español??
[03:07] <Odd-rationale> !es | jhuls
[03:07] <ubotu> jhuls: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[03:07] <matt__> Flannel: so would it be bennificil to just use the alt install disk and install a cli for the server?
[03:07] <Survivorman> wittyphotons, ctrl-alt-backspace ends a session, not shutdown
[03:07] <matt__> Flannel: in terms and perhaps usabilty/stability
[03:07] <Erickj92> troxor and Dr_willis, i could not find what im exactly looking for. the search gave me tons of stuff, and I have no idea what to choose from :/
[03:07] <jefffromhell> how do i type in the name of a file with a space in it into the terminal?
[03:07] <jhuls> ok thanks
[03:07] <jjohns63> I was looking at this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=671614
[03:07] <Starnestommy> jefffromhell: put the file name in quotes
[03:07] <Adantan_Alex> hmmmm are you running to a router?
[03:07] <matt__> Flannel: how, and if anyone even needs it, here is what i used to change the name
[03:08] <matt__> Flannel: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=299788
[03:08] <wittyphotons> Survivorman, well, i want it to just suspend rather than ending my session and closing all my open work, basically.
[03:08] <jefffromhell> danke, Starnestommy
[03:08] <billy> are there any programs like wine but for macintosh?
[03:08] <matt__> billy: i think there is this program called wine
[03:08] <tarelerulz> jefffromhell:  YOu do " filename " or "filename" '
[03:08] <jhuls> Adios
[03:08] <Adantan_Alex> jjohns63: is windows detecting the ethernet driver?
[03:08] <billy> matt_: it works for mac programs too?
[03:09] <jefffromhell> lol, you just answered my next question tarelerulz
[03:09] <troxor> billy: darwine /
[03:09] <Survivorman> wittyphotons, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XorgCtrlAltBackspace
[03:09] <billy> !darwine
[03:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about darwine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:09] <genii_> billy: There is basilisk2 but it emulates only motorola cpu so you can only install up to OS 8.1 on it
[03:09] <slashjamiec> !fluxbox
[03:09] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[03:09] <jjohns63> I haven't tried, though I suspect it will
[03:09] <billy> wuts fluxbox?
[03:09] <billy> oh nvm lol
[03:09] <slashjamiec> A window manager.
[03:09] <slashjamiec> :p
[03:09] <matt__> billy: oh...gotcha. you mean run mac programs on linux..
[03:09] <matt__> billy: there is something..but i forget the name
[03:09] <billy> matt_ yeah
[03:09] <billy> !mac
[03:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:10] <billy> !macintosh
[03:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about macintosh - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:10] <matt__> billy: go to go though, sorry i couldn't help anymore
[03:10] <Adantan_Alex> !hardware | johns63
[03:10] <billy> matt fer sher thanks for
[03:10] <ubotu> johns63: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[03:10] <troxor> Erickj92: depends on the language you want to program with
[03:10] <billy> bro**
[03:10] <slashjamiec> !compatibilitylayer
[03:10] <troxor> billy: pearpc?
[03:10] <billy> !pearpc
[03:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pearpc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:10] <troxor> billy: osx86 on vmware/virtualbox ;)
[03:10] <Erickj92> troxor, C under GNOME with GTK+
[03:10] <Adantan_Alex> !msg | billy
[03:10] <ubotu> billy: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[03:10] <billy> troxor: how do i do it? like set it up and stuff
[03:11] <slashjamiec> !c
[03:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about c - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:12] <Flannel> matt__: Alternate CD or server CD, yeah.  Either one has a text-only install.  You just have to decide whether you want the -generic or -server kernel (but you can change, so you don't have to decide at install time)
[03:13] <troxor> Erickj92: libgtk2.0-dev
[03:13] <billy> troxor: i installed pearpc.. how do i use it?
[03:14] <Erickj92> ok, thanks troxor
[03:14] <troxor> billy: dunno, it's been many moons since I've used it, and don't remember
[03:14] <billy> oh okay.. thanks
[03:15] <icesword> billy, hi
[03:15] <brakkvatn> Hello. How do I install KDE4 in Ubuntu?
[03:15] <billy> icesword: hi.. hey do you know anything about running mac programs in ubuntu?
[03:15] <Odd-rationale> !kde4 | brakkvatn
[03:15] <ubotu> brakkvatn: KDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[03:15] <frozenskunk> I've been trying to figure out what is causing my computer to slow down with no luck. Computer will get VERY slow and cpu wait times in top will be high (see: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62090/), I can't figure out what is causing it though. Tried closing my 'regular' apps (firefox, evolution, amarok, etc) with no luck... Can someone please give me hand?
[03:16] <icesword> billy, er,em,depends,it is hard,isn't it
[03:16] <icanhasadmin> frozenskunk: do you know what xgl is?
[03:16] <Adantan_Alex> o0
[03:16] <frozenskunk> yes, vaugly
[03:16] <Adantan_Alex> ok
[03:16] <icanhasadmin> frozenskunk: have you even installed it for any reason?
[03:16] <merlin_> hey all
[03:16] <merlin_> i got it runnung the compiz fusion
[03:17] <frozenskunk> it is possible, I've done various things as a result of some problems with compiz and mythtv
[03:17] <chai_> i realize i'm not nearly the first to ask this... but can someone help me get flash sound working on 64 bit ubuntu?
[03:17] <billy> icesword: just a simple game that i want to run
[03:17] <billy> !flash
[03:17] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[03:17] <chai_> billy: flash works... but no audio
[03:17] <billy> !flash|chai_
[03:17] <ubotu> chai_: please see above
[03:17] <billy> uhmm
[03:18] <icanhasadmin> frozenskunk: please try sudo apt-get remove --purge xserver-xgl
[03:18] <billy> i dunno, sounds to me like a driver problem.. does all your other audio work?
[03:18] <chai_> yea
[03:18] <pkundu> !tweak
[03:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tweak - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:18] <cpk1> the other day I deleted all my hidden files in my home dir when doing an install and I forgot about bashrc and what not and now if I use sudo it wont tab complete anything after that, anyone know how to change that? i think the problem is that I deleted my bashrc
[03:18] <Adantan_Alex> chai_: check again
[03:18] <pkundu> !acronis
[03:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acronis - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:19] <chai_> Adantan_Alex, check what?
[03:19] <frozenskunk> w...
[03:19] <pkundu> !ufplash
[03:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ufplash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:19] <Adantan_Alex> chai_
[03:19] <icanhasadmin> frozenskunk: did it uninstall? or did you not have it?
[03:19] <Odd-rationale> pkundu: considerr using /msg ubotu <message> instaed
[03:19] <Serveck> success!
[03:19] <Serveck> got ubuntu working on my laptop
[03:19] <frozenskunk> Package xserver-xgl is not installed, so not removed
[03:19] <Adantan_Alex> chai_: if your hardware is installed on ubuntu
[03:19] <troxor> cpk1: cp /etc/skel/.bashrc ~/
[03:19] <Serveck> now how do i setup a swapfile now that its finished installing
[03:19] <tayloreffect> congrats... does it hang on the boot?
[03:19] <Serveck> i had to do it manually, so no swapfile was made
[03:20] <Adantan_Alex> !hardware this can help | chai_
[03:20] <Stepa1> I am trying to remove evince, and when i go into synaptic it says 2 packages will be removed.  Evince and ubuntu-desktop.  What does that mean?
[03:20] <icanhasadmin> frozenskunk: then i'm out of ideas lol. sry mate.
[03:20] <Adantan_Alex> !hardware | chai_
[03:20] <chai_> Adantan_Alex, music plays perfectly
[03:20] <ubotu> chai_: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[03:20] <frozenskunk> drats, is there a chance I have some config left over from messing with it in the past?
[03:20] <Adantan_Alex> chai_: it could be the plug in your using
[03:20] <tayloreffect> God I love rTorrent
[03:20] <troxor> Serveck: `dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile bs=1K count=10M && mkswap /swapfile && swapon /swapfile` should work
[03:20] <Serveck> can anyone link me how to make a swapfile?
[03:20] <CorbinFox> rtorrent? never heard of Rtorrent.
[03:21] <Serveck> thanks
[03:21] <chai_> Adantan_Alex, which would you suggest?
[03:21] <tayloreffect> its the best torrent client ive ever used...
[03:21] <tayloreffect> totally console based
[03:21] <kindofabuzz> utorrent ftw
[03:21] <Adantan_Alex> chai_: are these flash plug ins?
[03:21] <tayloreffect> but fast as hell
[03:21] <icanhasadmin> frozenskunk: possibly, but if it's not installed it won't cause the classic cpu issues it has
[03:21] <Serveck> what number do i change for the differentsize swap file?
[03:21] <frozenskunk> It is driving me nuts, it didn't used to be like this, (this particular install has been upgraded since dapper I think) and it will work for a whle, then bog back down...
[03:21] <icanhasadmin> frozenskunk: you running compiz right now?
[03:21] <Adantan_Alex> weird.... my task bar has shown
[03:21] <Serveck> i'd like to make the swap file 1gb
[03:21] <troxor> Serveck: count
[03:21] <frozenskunk> no, no desktop effects at all
[03:21] <tayloreffect> lol
[03:22] <Serveck> what do i put? 1024m?
[03:22] <Adantan_Alex> chai_: private message
[03:22] <cpk1> troxor: that was the first thing I did, no help =(
[03:22] <PanzerMKZ> kindofabuzz can utorrent be run at coomand line?
[03:22] <Stepa1> when synaptic says ubuntu-desktop will be removed does that mean anything critical like i think?
[03:22] <adude> hey how do make it so you can read your emails in evolution
[03:22] <kindofabuzz> i dunno
[03:22] <PanzerMKZ> then you can't ftw
[03:22] <troxor> cpk1: did you copy all the skel files ?
[03:22] <Adantan_Alex> !plugin
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[03:22] <PanzerMKZ> cause rtorrent is great for people that need torrents at command line
[03:22] <Adantan_Alex> .... lol
[03:22] <Serveck> cool! ubuntu recognizes my wireless card, now where would it be in my windows files?
[03:22] <Serveck> its looking for it
[03:22] <troxor> Serveck: yep, 1024M * 1K block size should be about a gig :)
[03:23] <tayloreffect> well - I don't NEED bt from the command line
[03:23] <prettyricky> how do I edit the source.list?
[03:23] <tayloreffect> but i like running it on a headless server
[03:23] <Serveck> ok, any recomended swap file size for 512mb of ram?
[03:23] <prettyricky> is it gksudo?
[03:23] <frozenskunk> icanhasadmin: thanks for trying to help!
[03:23] <Serveck> windows sets it to like 2gb
[03:23] <Serveck> im running a dual boot btw..
[03:23] <tayloreffect> if they run on my desktop i look at them constatly =D
[03:23] <Stepa1> What does it mean when synaptic says ubuntu-desktop will be removed
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[03:23] <rullie> Serveck, usually 2X RAM
[03:23] <icanhasadmin> frozenskunk: sorry mate :/
[03:23] <kindofabuzz> gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
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[03:24] <kindofabuzz> or sudo nano
[03:24] <frozenskunk> Anyone else want to take a try at figuring out what is slowing my computer down?
[03:24] <PanzerMKZ> tayloreffect yea I know what you are doing but I am talking about users that NEED it at cli
[03:24] <cpk1> troxor: only one I hadnt was bash_logout which I just did. maybe it doesnt have to do with bashrc after all
[03:24] <fabricio> hello
[03:24] <prettyricky> thats for ubuntu 7.10 correct
[03:24] <troxor> Serveck: 512 should be fine- you might want the seek= option to dd,
[03:24] <Serveck> ok
[03:24] <kindofabuzz> prettyricky: it's for anything that has gedit
[03:24] <frozenskunk> icanhasadmin: no problem, it was at least something I know isn't wrong! ;-)
[03:24] <Serveck> thanks
[03:24] <Stepa1> Is it possible to fully remove evince?
[03:24] <chai_> Adantan_Alex, gotcha, i forgot to identify
[03:24] <prettyricky> i totally forgot the command thank yuo
[03:24] <prettyricky> you**
[03:24] <tayloreffect> a watched pot never boils
[03:24] <kindofabuzz> sure it does!
[03:24] <tayloreffect> ha!
[03:25] <Adantan_Alex> chai_: ok
[03:25] <PanzerMKZ> tayloreffect just run it in screen on your desktop
[03:25] <pingu> i need some help with ndiswrapper i haven't started yet but i will prolly need a walk through
[03:25] <Serveck> ok, i have a second question, which you probrably wont know, but have the link
[03:25] <troxor> cpk1: I believe the tab completion is readline's business- iirc, it uses ~/.inputrc, and completion should be enabled by default
[03:25] <pingu> anyone willing to help
[03:25] <Serveck> ubuntu recognizes my wireless card, HOWEVER, its looking for firmware
[03:25] <tayloreffect> my desktop uses xp ;)
[03:25] <Serveck> where in my windows files would it be>?
[03:25] <troxor> Serveck: broadcom?
[03:25] <Stepa1> I need help: I want to remove Evince
[03:26] <PanzerMKZ> tayloreffect oh well then deadhead works
[03:26] <Serveck> yes
[03:26] <cpk1> troxor: I have tab completion i.e. it will tab complete sudo but then it will not tab complete aptitude, which is the behavior I used to have
[03:26] <kindofabuzz> <---deadhead
[03:26] <Serveck> i have it installed on windows, i can access the files
[03:26] <Serveck> but where would the firmware be?
[03:26] <prettyricky> does anyone know how to unistall AWN I need to reinstall
[03:26] <troxor> Serveck: somewhere in c:/windows/system/ or something- you can do a find -name bcmwl5.sys (or whatever the filename is)
[03:26] <Serveck> ok thanks
[03:27] <Stepa1> HELP WANTED: Removing Evince
[03:27] <Serveck> if i can get wireless to work then i will be psyched
[03:27] <troxor> Serveck: you can also look for the file wl_apsta.o online and use the fwcutter on that
[03:27] <Serveck> thanks
[03:27] <amirman84> can any of you recommend a good dock to use with ubuntu?
[03:27] <PanzerMKZ> dock?
[03:28] <troxor> cpk1: that's strange.. even after re-login ?
[03:28] <frozenskunk> Stepa1: Have you tried Synaptic?
[03:28] <Stepa1> frozenskunk: yes, and i have a question about that
[03:28] <amirman84> a dock application, like the dock on the macos
[03:28] <PanzerMKZ> amirman84 dock?
[03:28] <frozenskunk> I'll at lesat make an answer up...
[03:28] <Stepa1> frozenskunk: when it says 2 packages will be removed and they are Evince and ubuntu-desktop
[03:28] <troxor> amirman84: awn is a popular choice
[03:28] <Stepa1> frozenskunk: does that mean anything bad?
[03:28] <frozenskunk> yes
[03:28] <Serveck> cool, ubuntu already found drivers for my modem and graphics drivers
[03:29] <icanhasadmin> Stepa1: yes very bad
[03:29] <amirman84> troxor: thanks, can i get from the package manager thingy or from the web or what?
[03:29] <icanhasadmin> Stepa1: why not sudo apt-get remove --purge evince ?
[03:29] <Stepa1> icanhasadmin: okay, good think i didnt press apply
[03:29] <frozenskunk> no, the ubuntu-desktop is a shell with dependencies on everything that ships with a 'stock' ubuntu install. it is there in case you remove too much and want it all back in one easy way.
[03:29] <prettyricky> does anyone know how to unistall AWN I need to reinstall
[03:29] <HinHin> hey guys, is there any way for apt-get remove a packages that are broken a.k.a can't install them?
[03:29] <frozenskunk> but ubuntu-desktop doesn't do anything in and of itself
[03:30] <Stepa1> icanhasadmin: i guess i can use that, but i prefer visual
[03:30] <HinHin> i can't install anything while i these packages are broken
[03:30] <troxor> amirman84: not sure about the state of it currently, but it might take a little effort to get going-
[03:30] <HinHin> i've tried to sudo apt-get -f install
[03:30] <frozenskunk> at least that is what I think...
[03:30] <troxor> amirman84: here's a starting point: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=385981
[03:30] <icanhasadmin> Stepa1: CLI is very much so your friend. trust me
[03:30] <HinHin> but the package simply won't install
[03:30] <amirman84> troxor: thanks i'll read up on the web
[03:30] <Adantan_Alex> any one planning to ask for help? :)
[03:31] <cpk1> troxor: shouldnt have to re-log, just open a new bash, i think I may have found the problem though
[03:31] <frozenskunk> Can you help me figure out what is slowing my computer down?
[03:31] <HinHin> Adantan_Alex, are you familar with apt-get?
[03:31] <icesword> lol
[03:31] <Serveck> hmm.. it seems that linux cannot access my system 32 folder in windows..
[03:31] <icesword> Serveck, why
[03:31] <Stepa1> icanhasadmin: yea, im trying to learn it. I just like to know what im doing and most of the time when i get advise here i dont
[03:31] <Stepa1> icanhasadmin: i understood you though ;-)
[03:32] <cpk1> troxor: I needed the package "bash-completion" that did it =)
[03:32] <troxor> cpk1: d'oh, that was easy :)
[03:32] <pingu> what are linux headers and how do i find out what version i have
[03:32] <amirman84> crap, i'm running ubuntu in vmware so i can't enable compiz or beryl or anything because the virtual graphics drivers suck
[03:32] <amirman84> so i guess i can't use AWN
[03:32] <troxor> pingu: `uname -a`
[03:33] <HinHin> is there anyway to force apt-get to remove packages? despite if the packages are broken?
[03:33] <HinHin> i can't install the broken packages with sudo apt-get -f install
[03:33] <Adantan_Alex> o0
[03:33] <Stepa1> icanhasadmin: thanks for that info.  Is there any reason why synaptic wants to remove ubuntu when i remove evince?
[03:33] <troxor> pingu: they're development files for the kernel
[03:33] <Adantan_Alex> ok
[03:34] <Starnestommy> Stepa1: it's because ubuntu-desktop has evince as a dependency
[03:34] <troxor> HinHin: could you paste the output to pastebin?
[03:34] <HinHin> troxor, sure
[03:34] <icanhasadmin> Stepa1: honestly i think that's a bug
[03:34] <icanhasadmin> Stepa1: actually, i believe it's a mis-feature :P
[03:34] <pingu> troxor: thanks and can i rely on you for im doing some stuff with ndiswrapper because the drivers for my card in linux suck and its kinda uncharted territory for me
[03:34] <Serveck> hey.. it says 512m is an invalid number for setting up a swapfile
[03:34] <Stepa1> Starnestommy, icanhasadmin: am i sacrifising anything by removing it?
[03:35] <BBLake> did i make it?
[03:35] <frozenskunk> icanhasadmin: I think it is intended to give you a quick and easy way to get back to the 'stock' set of ubuntu apps
[03:35] <kronoman> Stepa1: evince is a pdf viewer
[03:35] <Serveck> troxor, it says 512m is invalid number
[03:35] <troxor> Serveck: capital M ;) case sensitive
[03:35] <wbreslin951> whats the terminal command to build dependancies?
[03:35] <Serveck> ooh ok
[03:35] <Serveck> lol
[03:35] <icanhasadmin> frozenskunk: i'm sorry, "suggesting" the user uninstalls gnome is a mis-feature in any situation :P
[03:35] <Serveck> hmm seems to be working
[03:35] <Stepa1> kronoman: i know that, thanks
[03:35] <icanhasadmin> wbreslin951: depmod -a?
[03:36] <HinHin> troxor, http://pastebin.com/m272a3957
[03:36] <Serveck> about how long will this take and which partition will it make it in?
[03:36] <troxor> pingu: sure, ndiswrapper is a common obstacle- there's a plethora of info out there about it too
[03:36] <Stepa1> i want to know why its a treat to remove
[03:36] <wbreslin951> icanhasadmin: k thanks
[03:36] <frozenskunk> icanhasadmin: Ah! Yes, I agree with you there. It concerned me first time I came across it also, that when I read up on it
[03:36] <prettyricky> does anyone know how to unistall AWN I tried installing it and didnt work so I need to reinstall
[03:36] <guardoftheguards> I'm having trouble using Mythbuntu with a PVR-350.  I read the tutorial on how to enable TV-out and everything seems to work (modprobe test screen) but I don't seem to have a framebuffer.  "cat /proc/fb" results in nothing.
[03:36] <guardoftheguards> cat /var/log/messages |grep "TV out"   results in nothing as well
[03:36] <prettyricky> I want to uninstall everything
[03:37] <Serveck> troxor, this wont make the swapfile in my windows partition will it?
[03:37] <Masticore> Is it possible to install KDE and then completly remove Gnome
[03:37] <wbreslin951> icanhasadmin: depmod -a checks to see if there's any new modules
[03:37] <StrangeCharm> hey, how can i activate network interfaces that don't show up when i ifconfig? they were detected at install, but don't seem to be on
[03:37] <Stepa1> Good Night Guys, thanks for the help 8-)
[03:37] <Starnestommy> prettyricky: if you installed it from source, try running 'sudo make deinstall' or 'sudo make uninstall' in its source directory
[03:37] <Serveck> i have alot of files i cant loose in there
[03:37] <wbreslin951> its build-dep or somethin like that but i can't get the exact command
[03:37] <pingu> troxor: i have the basic info but i still consider myself a bit of a noob at ubuntu
[03:37] <frozenskunk> guardoftheguards: Seems like mine took an odd device for playback (16 maybe?)
[03:37] <troxor> Serveck: nope, it'll make it in whatever partition is mounted to /
[03:37] <Serveck> ok
[03:37] <Serveck> good
[03:37] <Serveck> hmm.. it seems it made it
[03:38] <troxor> HinHin: try `sudo apt-get clean`
[03:38] <Serveck> yup, it made it fine
[03:38] <HinHin> troxor, tried that
[03:38] <icanhasadmin> !enter Serveck
[03:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about enter serveck - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:38] <anka-ar> hey marky, give me a gui to stream my music
[03:38] <HinHin> troxor, i tried to install gnome
[03:38] <icanhasadmin> emph
[03:38] <HinHin> but it's not working... and i don't want gnome anymore anyway
[03:38] <wbreslin951> anyone: whats the command to get / build the dependancies of a package?
[03:38] <Serveck> all i have left to do is make my wireless card work and im all set
[03:38] <troxor> HinHin: try removing gnome-network-preferences first, then doing apt-get install -f
[03:39] <pingu> troxor: this is the web page im using and im stuck with the third groups of commands http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31926
[03:39] <Starnestommy> wbreslin951: when installing a package with apt-get or a .deb file?
[03:39] <icanhasadmin> Serveck: what's wrong with your wireless card?
[03:39] <Serveck> im trying to get it to find firmware
[03:39] <JPRuskin> !nvidia | jpruskin
[03:39] <kindofabuzz> apt-cache depends <packagename>
[03:39] <Serveck> its installed properly on my windows partition
[03:39] <Serveck> i need to get the files now, but i dont know which
[03:39] <icesword> kindofabuzz, depends ?what does it do
[03:39] <wbreslin951> Starnestommy: nvm i figured it out, sudo apt-get build-dep <program name>
[03:39] <Serveck> its looking for firmware
[03:39] <Masticore> Is it possible to install KDE and then completly remove Gnome?
[03:40] <guardoftheguards> frozenskunk: I know when I cat things to /dev/video16 it works.
[03:40] <icanhasadmin> Serveck: what? files for what?
[03:40] <troxor> pingu: that's a pretty outdated guide, one sec
[03:40] <HinHin> troxor, didn't work either...
[03:40] <HinHin> http://pastebin.com/m4f3e5ce8
[03:40] <Serveck> for my broadcom wireless card
[03:40] <kindofabuzz> icesword: shows the deps for the package
[03:40] <pingu> troxor: ok holding on
[03:40] <icesword> k
[03:40] <wbreslin951> Serveck: good luck with that lol
[03:40] <Serveck> it needs the files for the drivers, i have them ,but i dont know which
[03:40] <Piffer> Quick Question. On my Sony Vaio laptop, the internal fan does not run under Kbuntu, but under Ubuntu, it works fine. Any ideas?
[03:40] <icanhasadmin> Serveck: 43xx driver?
[03:40] <troxor> pingu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[03:40] <Serveck> not sure
[03:40] <guardoftheguards> frozenskunk: But, I don't know exactly what a framebuffer is/how I should set that line up.
[03:40] <Serveck> as soon as it boots i can check
[03:40] <wbreslin951> Serveck: use cabextract to get them from the windows driver
[03:40] <Flannel> Masticore: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[03:40] <Masticore> tnz
[03:40] <StrangeCharm> i have several nics, all show up when i ifconfig ethx for them specifically, but only one [and lo] appears when i ifconfig
[03:41] <kindofabuzz> icesword: apt-cache --help shows what you can do
[03:41] <BBLake> anyone can help with xchat.  trying to log onto an irc server, with no luck
[03:41] <Masticore> thanks
[03:41] <frozenskunk> guardoftheguards: Then you have to tell mythtv to use that dev for playback
[03:41] <StrangeCharm> how can i set them to be active?
[03:41] <Piffer> if lm-sensors is missing, could that cause the fan not to run?
[03:41] <icesword> kindofabuzz, k
[03:41] <Starnestommy> BBLake: try asking in #xchat
[03:41] <BBLake> irc://irc.rizon.net  ----i can't get into this server through xchat?
[03:41] <BBLake> ok starnestommy
[03:41] <Starnestommy> BBLake: try /newserver irc.rizon.net
[03:41] <wbreslin951> Serveck: need some help with bcm?
[03:41] <Flannel> BBLake: try `/server irc.rizon.net`
[03:42] <troxor> HinHin: one way to resolve it is just persist through the dependencies, removing them all until it lets you remove what you want, then reinstalling them after it's resolved
[03:42] <guardoftheguards> frozenskunk: I believe I am in TV Settings, but it results in an initialization error.
[03:42] <kindofabuzz> BBLake: try /a better client =)
[03:42] <pingu> troxor: is there a walk through on this i would filter through all of it but i would rather not if you know exactly where it is
[03:42] <frozenskunk> guardoftheguards: I don't recall setting that up, so it maybe that it is either not used, or the default worked for me (or I used beer to help fix that particular problem)
[03:42] <troxor> HinHin: but the goal is to remove the package with the offending file, then run apt-get install -f
[03:43] <BBLake> kindo, any recommendations.  the link is up on the webpage, and in window's i doubleclicked, and chatzilla brought it up.
[03:43] <Serveck> ok my card IS 43xx
[03:43] <Adantan_Alex> !swear
[03:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swear - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:43] <Serveck> i just found a thread on it, ill try that and get back to you guys
[03:43] <Adantan_Alex> !language
[03:43] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[03:43] <__mikem> Cool, I got Safari on my windows box now
[03:43] <frozenskunk> guardoftheguards: Let me check mine. What exaclty are you looking at? And I assume your using mythbuntu?
[03:44] <wbreslin951> can anyone help me with a Mac on Linux install?
[03:44] <icanhasadmin> Serveck: very common card, let me know if you can't find a guide
[03:44] <Adantan_Alex> yes
[03:44] <Adantan_Alex> i can
[03:44] <guardoftheguards> frozenskunk: Yea. Using Mythbuntu.  Setup > TV Settings > Playback
[03:44] <HinHin> troxor, so there's no way to get apt-get to forgot all about installing gnome?
[03:44] <Adantan_Alex> wbreslin951: talk in private
[03:45] <HinHin> i've tried removing alot of the gnome packages
[03:45] <pingu> troxor: hey whats the command to figure out what i am running i.e. AMD 64 i think i am but not sure
[03:45] <wbreslin951> Adantan_Alex: how?
[03:45] <Adantan_Alex> !register | wbreslin951
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[03:45] <troxor> pingu: uname -a
[03:45] <kindofabuzz> BBLake: i use chatzilla.  as a seperate process, not as an addon
[03:45] <HinHin> but it keeps demanding to resolve the depencies
[03:45] <pygmymath> irssi :D
[03:46] <troxor> HinHin: it's probably bugging you for good reason :)
[03:46] <wbreslin951> oi.. gotta go.. thanks for your help tho Adantan_Alex
[03:46] <icesword> ;)
[03:46] <frozenskunk> guardoftheguards Do you have the -350 TV out enabled? I had problems with that, so I don't have it enabled, and it works...
[03:46] <guardoftheguards> frozenskunk: There just seems to be one checkbox (a couple screens in) that says "Use the PVR-350's TV out / MPEG decoder"  I have that checked and the video device set to /dev/video26
[03:46] <guardoftheguards> oh
[03:46] <HinHin> troxor, :P but i want it just to forget it
[03:46] <HinHin> entirely
[03:46] <frozenskunk> guardoftheguards right, try unchecking that
[03:47] <pingu> troxor: this is what it gives me "Linux michael-laptop 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Feb 12 07:42:25 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[03:47] <Adantan_Alex> ahy time
[03:47] <BBLake> can you run chatzilla on ubuntu?
[03:47] <srbaker> hey folks
[03:47] <orlok> Is it possible for me to upgrade Gutsy to the 8. beta?
[03:47] <troxor> pingu: that's a 32-bit kernel
[03:47] <BBLake> i'd much rather use chatzilla, for some reason i thought it wasn't on ubuntu
[03:47] <kindofabuzz> BBLake: umm yeah
[03:47] <srbaker> is there a list of hardware companies that offer machines pre-installed with ubuntu that i can see?
[03:47] <pingu> troxor: how do you know?
[03:47] <kindofabuzz> BBLake: it's a firefox addon so why couldn't you?
[03:47] <troxor> HinHin: pingu i686 ;)
[03:47] <guardoftheguards> frozenskunk: Ok. Did you try setting up the TV Out on it through xorg.conf?
[03:47] <troxor> er, pingu i686
[03:47] <dseomn> BBLake: the package is mozilla-chatzilla
[03:47] <orlok> srbaker: Dell do, i think.
[03:48] <pygmymath> srbaker: dont know about that but i know that Dell do
[03:48] <RPC> Hello, everyone.
[03:48] <HinHin> troxor, o.o... i fixed it with Synaptic
[03:48] <troxor> HinHin: sweet
[03:48] <HinHin> what the...
[03:48] <srbaker> does dell offer every machine with ubuntu, or just one or two?
[03:48] <srbaker> i want a fast as hell machine
[03:48] <HinHin> lol
[03:48] <BBLake> installing now.
[03:48] <HinHin> troxor, thanks for the help ;)
[03:48] <kindofabuzz> just go to firefox addons page and install it, then i will show you how to run as a seperate process so if FF crashes chatzilla won't
[03:48] <pingu> troxor: i guess just something you know
[03:48] <slashjamiec> ubuntu is lightening fast on my current pc
[03:48] <troxor> HinHin: no problemo, synaptic is smarter than me though :[
[03:48] <pygmymath> srbaker: one or two afaik.
[03:48] <RPC> I have a toshiba A205-s5800 I want to put linux on. Can someone please help me?
[03:48] <srbaker> suck
[03:49] <frozenskunk> I don't quite remember, it seems like it just kind of worked as long as I didn't have the checked. I used to use knoppmyth, and it would work there, but when Iswitched to mythbuntu, it wouldn't work anymore
[03:49] <slashjamiec> I'm running fluxbuntu on a pc with 3gb ram :S
[03:49] <orlok> srbaker: i think they may have a website...
[03:49] <troxor> pingu: it would say x86_64 if it was a 64-bit kernel
[03:49] <pygmymath> slashjamiec: just got my new nvidia working and wooooo
[03:49] <icanhasadmin> RPC: just use the live cd....
[03:49] <pygmymath> slashjamiec: heh flux? i could never get that going to my tastes
[03:49] <pingu> troxor: you know more than i do
[03:49] <srbaker> orlok: heh, yeah
[03:49] <HinHin> troxor, synaptic is going to rule the world
[03:49] <slashjamiec> pygmymath: serious? I love it.
[03:49] <orlok> slashjamiec: 512M of ram here, 630Mhz processor, 4G drive.. runs nicely :)
[03:49] <HinHin> :P
[03:49] <frozenskunk> guardoftheguards: If I understand correctly, the difference is where the processing is done, either on the 350 or by your cpu.
[03:49] <troxor> srbaker: they only offer pre-installed ubuntu on several machines, afaict
[03:50] <frozenskunk> guardoftheguards I would try unchecking that box and see if it works then...
[03:50] <pygmymath> slashjamiec: couldnt get the menus working how i liked heh.. and compositing didnt work.. sucky reason but i love gnome too heh
[03:50] <orlok> OpenArena runs too
[03:50] <slashjamiec> orlok: really? Man. I had a 512mb ram pc with 80gb hdd and 2ghz celeron and it ran like crap
[03:50] <troxor> srbaker: which doesn't necessarily mean ubuntu won't run on other models
[03:50] <pygmymath> slashjamiec: runs better with soemthing like icewm or flux.
[03:50] <slashjamiec> pygmymath: did you try xfce? i used it before i got fluxbox.conf to my likings
[03:50] <srbaker> troxor: i want to order a machine that i can sit down and start using
[03:50] <HinHin> slashjamiec, did you use a desktop GUI?
[03:50] <orlok> slashjamiec: its an eeepc :)
[03:50] <slashjamiec> HinHin: You could say yes, fluxbox or xfce are my favourites.
[03:50] <pygmymath> slashjamiec: yeah but no massive improvement over gnome on the machine i was using it on
[03:50] <kindofabuzz> slashjamiec: i only have a p4 1.5Ghz with gnome, runs beautifully
[03:51] <slashjamiec> orlok: oh shit, they're rum. I've sold some of those
[03:51] <srbaker> troxor: i was a linux user for 10 years, and bought a mac.  i have no interest in installing operating systems, twiddling bits, or touching hardware ever again :)
[03:51] <guardoftheguards> frozenskunk: I'm hooked to a VGA, so it outputs there, right now.
[03:51] <pygmymath> orlok: gnome eee user reporting for duty :P and you can OC to 900 :)
[03:51] <orlok> slashjamiec: rum?
[03:51] <slashjamiec> orlok: yum*
[03:51] <Serveck> IT WORKS!
[03:51] <HinHin> slashjamiec, most celerons would run almost as well as any other comparable intel chip in non-graphical cli
[03:51] <orlok> pygmymath: i have other systems if i want to burn my lap or run "demanding" apps
[03:51] <Serveck> my wireless card works.. but it cannot connect to my network, and i dont have the HEX key
[03:51] <orlok> slashjamiec: yup, they are.
[03:51] <Serveck> just the passphrase
[03:52] <icanhasadmin> Serveck: that could be a problem lol
[03:52] <wittyphotons> does anyone know how i could remap ctrl-alt-bksp to bring up the quit menu instead of killing the session?
[03:52] <frozenskunk> guardoftheguards: yeah, I had that for a while too when I set up, seems like the vga was display 0, and the 350 was display 1 (or something to that effect), you can get it to do both at once as a dual display also.
[03:52] <pygmymath> orlok: fair play :) my eee is just pidgin, ff, mocp irssi and some open office heh
[03:52] <Serveck> well, every other laptop worked fine with the passphrase
[03:52] <slashjamiec> Can anyone tell me why Ubuntu 7.10 won't run on my pc for?
[03:52] <orlok> pygmymath: i am actually wanting to get my X working "nicely"
[03:52] <icanhasadmin> slashjamiec: no, but you can tell us what the problem with it is
[03:52] <pygmymath> wittyphotons: System > Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts
[03:52] <troxor> srbaker: your best bet is to check out what's available then ;)
[03:52] <dseomn> wittyphotons: I think you have to edit xorg.conf, disable C-A-Bkspc, then do what pygmymath said
[03:52] <srbaker> NICE
[03:52] <srbaker> they have the m1330
[03:52] <srbaker> troxor: only the inspiron 530
[03:52] <srbaker> troxor: i wanted an XPS :(
[03:52] <slashjamiec> when i try and boot, it shows the startup boot screen, and nothing after that shows.
[03:52] <wittyphotons> okay, i'll try those things.
[03:53] <n3urogod> morning people
[03:53] <slashjamiec> ive tried "acpi=off" in the boot options
[03:53] <pygmymath> orlok: whats wrong with it? I'm running basic ubuntu with the eee scripts & modules and ive got the cube going at a good 50-60
[03:53] <srbaker> are any other reputable vendors doing it?  i'm leaning towards system76 currently
[03:53] <frozenskunk> guardoftheguards: another strange thing is you can't play video back over a vnc connection, (at least without messing with some display settings) you can do everything else, just not playback...
[03:53] <BBLake> thanks all. duh
[03:53] <orlok> pygmymath: my "fast" computer overclocks by more then the eeepc's total overclocked speed... 3Ghz oc'd to 4Ghz
[03:53] <n3urogod> hey I want to setup an ssh-pppd tunnel to another machine, does anyone have a howto or any info on how to do this the ubuntu/debian way?
[03:53] <troxor> srbaker: both dell and system76 are good
[03:53] <pygmymath> orlok: nice heh
[03:54] <slashjamiec> *scratches head*
[03:54] <orlok> pygmymath: dunno, compiz stuff isnt working the same as on my ubuntu desktop
[03:54] <Adantan_Alex> ok
[03:54] <orlok> pygmymath: dont get the same menu options or effects
[03:54] <pygmymath> orlok: Using intel driver?
[03:54] <orlok> yup
[03:54] <speedhunt3r> hi, how do you run a .bin file?
[03:54] <slashjamiec> I like the eepc. They're good. Except i got the $500AU version, which means the ram is soldered into the ram slot and isn't upgradeable.
[03:54] <pygmymath> orlok: stupid question but installed custom settings manager
[03:54] <orlok> i have GL working, or did until i installed Xgl
[03:54] <icanhasadmin> speedhunt3r: you usually burn it...
[03:54] <dseomn> slashjamiec: try vga=791 or vga=771
[03:54] <pygmymath> slashjamiec: burn. mines running 2 gig and its beauty
[03:54] <slashjamiec> Thanks, I'll write that down.
[03:54] <icanhasadmin> orlok: OH GOD UNINSTALL IT NOW. i'm serious, kill it with fire. xgl is satan
[03:55] <srbaker> troxor: the inspiron 530 can be tricked out pretty nicely, but not quite what i want, unfortunately
[03:55] <orlok> slashjamiec: i got the $500AU version, mine isnt soldered in
[03:55] <troxor> speedhunt3r: chmod +x file.bin && ./file.bin
[03:55] <pygmymath> xgl is DEATH
[03:55] <srbaker> i may just buy an XPS and just ditch windows
[03:55] <slashjamiec> orlok: oh
[03:55] <Adantan_Alex> !caps | icanhasadmin
[03:55] <ubotu> icanhasadmin: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:55] <icanhasadmin> pygmymath: amen brother
[03:55] <guardoftheguards> frozenskunk: It's quite odd.
[03:55] <icanhasadmin> Adantan_Alex: i disagree
[03:55] <pygmymath> orlok: you dont need xgl at all on the eee. only reason to use xgl is ati
[03:55] <troxor> srbaker: there are a few machines that come with redhat enterprise, iirc
[03:55] <guardoftheguards> It seems like X is just completely ignoring the conf file
[03:55] <high-freq> um just had prob installin when a windows partition is on sda1 and i installed ubuntu on sda5....now i rebooted and nothing happend like grub didn't work
[03:55] <orlok> pygmymath: ahh, ok, cheers
[03:55] <high-freq> anyone know how to get grub to work
[03:56] <pygmymath> icanhasadmin: used it for too long with my ati carxd. today my 9600 is working with beta drivers and i love it heh
[03:56] <frozenskunk> guardoftheguards: Would it work with the checkbox cleared?
[03:56] <orlok> slashjamiec: i got mine in the "second" batch though
[03:56] <troxor> srbaker: and if RH will run on them, ubuntu will :)
[03:56] <guardoftheguards> frozenskunk: Outputs to the vga monitor
[03:56] <orlok> slashjamiec: then all the major retailers were stockingthem
[03:56] <icanhasadmin> pygmymath: fglrx+AIGLX runs so amazing i cry sometimes when i use my comp
[03:56] <guardoftheguards> frozenskunk: But the very fact that this VGA monitor is working baffles me.
[03:56] <frozenskunk> guardoftheguards: ok then you need to change your display to force it over the the 350
[03:56] <icanhasadmin> high-freq: describe "not work" please
[03:56] <Masticore> Best and easiest DVD Rip program?
[03:57] <Daisuke_Ido> define rip
[03:57] <Daisuke_Ido> dvd9 to dvd5?  or dvd to xvid?
[03:57] <SpArTaKo> ripear"
[03:57] <frozenskunk> guardoftheguards I think your system has two displays and is using the vga by default, you need to force it over to the 350 I think
[03:57] <pygmymath> icanhasadmin: i cant get this card to go under 70 fps. ands thats cos it's vsynced :/
[03:57] <Masticore> make an avi file of a dvd
[03:57] <srbaker> troxor: ah, true.
[03:57] <Daisuke_Ido> dvd::rip
[03:57] <wittyphotons> dseomn, how would i disable c-a-bksp in xorg.conf?
[03:57] <Masticore> okey
[03:57] <Serveck> ok, my wireless card works, i put in my WEP key, yet it will not connect
[03:57] <high-freq> hmm
[03:57] <srbaker> troxor: i think i might just get system76 so i can not install myself :P
[03:57] <high-freq> it doesn't boot
[03:57] <Daisuke_Ido> pretty good, may have to play with settings
[03:57] <high-freq> wants to do a network boot or somethin
[03:58] <dospod> can anybody help me fix a display problem
[03:58] <dseomn> wittyphotons: from the manpage: Option "DontZap" "On"
[03:58] <icanhasadmin> pygmymath: wait you can't get it to go UNDER 70fps? You're not complaining about that are you? Lol
[03:59] <pygmymath> icanhasadmin: not at all :D
[03:59] <wittyphotons> dseomn, ohhh, THIS is where i add that. that makes so much more sense!
[03:59] <high-freq> icanhasadmin, after install i rebooted and nothing would come up not grub nor windows
[03:59] <icanhasadmin> high-freq: sounds like you hosed your mbr
[03:59] <pygmymath> icanhasadmin: and running steamgames in wine full screen on the cube is sweet :P compared to a terminal error from wine when i had my ati :P
[03:59] <high-freq> any fix?
[03:59] <dospod> can anybody help me fix my display error
[03:59] <icanhasadmin> high-freq: windows cd, mbr fix
[03:59] <nomadz> need help with screen resizing inside of virtualbox,
[03:59] <dospod> on a fresh install
[03:59] <Daisuke_Ido> srbaker, you could always go with a dellbuntu.  i have nothing against system76, but i do believe it's a good idea to show major pc makers that there is demand for linux
[03:59] <icanhasadmin> dospod: please don't ask to ask a question, just ask it
[04:00] <srbaker> Daisuke_Ido: yes, but they don't have the model i want.
[04:00] <high-freq> after that do i go into the livecd and fix grub?
[04:00] <srbaker> Daisuke_Ido: they only provide the inspiron 530 with ubuntu, and i want XPS
[04:00] <Daisuke_Ido> fair enough
[04:00] <dospod> I need help I installed ubuntu , live cd loaded fine , but when I boot off the hd it hangs always never displays anything , except when I run ubuntu recovery mode then I can actually get it to display to my screen
[04:00] <Daisuke_Ido> not a laptop?
[04:00] <guardoftheguards> frozenskunk: http://www.pastebin.com/m5c3ff2d3
[04:01] <guardoftheguards> frozenskunk: http://www.pastebin.com/m5c3ff2d3
[04:01] <frozenskunk> guardoftheguards: checking it, give me a minute
[04:01] <guardoftheguards> frozenskunk: http://pastebin.com/m5c3ff2d3
[04:01] <dospod> Its never done this to me before on the laptop and I have tested previous versions of ubuntu on this laptop
[04:01] <guardoftheguards> there it is
[04:01] <guardoftheguards> that's the right link
[04:01] <slashjamiec> I've got this old 933mhz celeron in the shed with 92mb ram, what can i do with it? Ubuntu!?
[04:01] <icanhasadmin> dospod: does it get to grub?
[04:01] <high-freq> icanhasadmin, ok did that mbr fix using the windows cd...and nada..same thing won't boot...i might have to reformat the whole drive and just put nix on it
[04:01] <dospod> yes it does
[04:01] <Zelta> Okay, so why is it that mp3 files and flv files freeze Firefox / VLC Media Player / Rythmbox?  I installed the proper codecs using Automatix2, and it worked for a bit, but now opening flash videos and .mp3 files cause me to have to Force Quit the application
[04:01] <Adantan_Alex> hmmmm
[04:01] <dospod> but when it goes into ubuntu it crashes
[04:01] <dseomn> slashjamiec: that should run ubuntu ok, but you might be better off with puppy or dsl, or something
[04:01] <dospod> but if I press esc and select ubuntu recovery mode it works fine
[04:02] <Adantan_Alex> dospod: dd you make any hardware changes?
[04:02] <Adantan_Alex> did*
[04:02] <icanhasadmin> dospod: pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf please
[04:02] <high-freq> any other suggestion on a hosed mbr?
[04:02] <high-freq> how to fix
[04:02] <slashjamiec> but dsl sucks, there's no "apt-get" which blows. :P
[04:02] <dospod> I don't have access to the internet on the lappy
[04:02] <Adantan_Alex> lol....
[04:02] <nomadz> dsl has apt-get
[04:02] <dospod> I need to get the screen first so I can then ethernet it up and then install the bc43xx fcutter
[04:03] <slashjamiec> nomadz: I'm pretty sure it doesn't include the synaptics manager. :S
[04:03] <Serveck> how do i get my HEX key? i have my passphrase.. and my dad is sleeping (the one with the hex key)
[04:03] <orlok> pygmymath: custom settings manager? or compiz settings manager?
[04:03] <nomadz> yeap it does
[04:03] <dseomn> Serveck: WEP? WPA PSK? WPA2 PSK?
[04:03] <slashjamiec> I'll boot into it later
[04:03] <nomadz> dsl 4.xx
[04:03] <orlok> slashjamiec: where did you get your eee?
[04:04] <Adantan_Alex> dillidoo kiss my boo
[04:04] <Serveck> WEP
[04:04] <Adantan_Alex> lol j/k
[04:04] <pygmymath> orlok: Advanced Desktop Effects Settings
[04:04] <Serveck> will a regular hex key translator work?
[04:04] <parkinm> Russian Roulette in Linux ;)          [ $[ $RANDOM % 6 ] == 0 ] && rm *.* || echo "You live"
[04:04] <Serveck> well.. its worth a shot
[04:04] <slashjamiec> orlok: At that damn Good Guys.
[04:04] <Adantan_Alex> ok the thing is if your using WEP there are 2 types of WEB one is ASCII and the other one is HEX
[04:04] <orlok> slashjamiec: ahh, so part of the second shipment?
[04:04] <orlok> hmm
[04:04] <Adantan_Alex> WEP*
[04:04] <ryanzec> what is the ubuntu off topic irc channel?
[04:05] <orlok> i am sure my ram was socketed....
[04:05] <Adantan_Alex> im installing ubuntu now....
[04:05] <Starnestommy> ryanzec: #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[04:05] <dospod> for once I think I should have stuck with vista insted of ubuntu
[04:05] <icanhasadmin> parkinm: hey i did that and i won. oh yeah and PLEASE don't encourage newbies to hose their system like that
[04:05] <slashjamiec> orlok: Yeah, wasn't the first shipment... You have 2gb expandable slots, but my version came with 512mb soldered.
[04:05] <dospod> which is crazy since I always prefer ubuntu over vista
[04:05] <orlok> slashjamiec: JB hifi here
[04:05] <Adantan_Alex> dospod did u dual boot?
[04:05] <dospod> no
[04:05] <Adantan_Alex> :
[04:05] <dospod> used to
[04:05] <dospod> but I wanted just ubuntu this time
[04:05] <Adantan_Alex> dospod: you should of dual boot
[04:06] <nomadz> can someone tell me why i have to log out log back in a session in order to get my screen size to work, i am using virtualbox driver in vista
[04:06] <slashjamiec> orlok: Yeah, i used to live in Brisbane. I should have got it at JB. But I'm up in rockhampton these days :P
[04:06] <dospod> Its weird the last version of ubuntu loaded
[04:06] <dospod> fine
[04:06] <dospod> worked out of box
[04:06] <dospod> same hardware
[04:06] <parkinm> icanhasadmin, anyone who plays russian roulette you should already be aware of what might pursue! :P
[04:06] <Adantan_Alex> nomadz: this is a ubuntu channel
[04:06] <FloodBot1> dospod: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:06] <Adantan_Alex> !room
[04:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about room - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:06] <parkinm> * -you
[04:06] <Adantan_Alex> ....
[04:06] <Adantan_Alex> !chat
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[04:06] <dospod> but this one just is kinda screwed up
[04:06] <high-freq> dospod, what the prob is?
[04:06] <nomadz> the question is about ubuntu 7.10
[04:07] <dospod> It hangs when loading ubuntu
[04:07] <dospod> ubuntu recovery works
[04:07] <slashjamiec> 6.06 was the best version ever.
[04:07] <dospod> but when it tries to load ubuntu it dosen't even display anything
[04:07] <jkonami> hey guys
[04:07] <dospod> just black
[04:07] <Serveck> i heard that your supposed to put s: before your passphrase for WEP
[04:07] <high-freq> hmm
[04:07] <Adantan_Alex> .... lol
[04:07] <high-freq> wrong xorg file ;(
[04:07] <dseomn> Serveck: that's if you edit wpa_supplicant.conf directly
[04:08] <Serveck> oh
[04:08] <orlok> slashjamiec: compizconfig-settings-manager
[04:08] <Serveck> so it SHOULD work with my passphrase, but it does not
[04:08] <parkinm> No-one should be using WEP unless the _really_ need it, like if they want to use a nintendo DS or something that doesnt support WPA
[04:08] <high-freq> have u tried to fix it using diff terminal...console mode ;)
[04:08] <Serveck> it might be WPA
[04:08] <dospod> in recovery mode I can start x
[04:08] <Serveck> im not sure, my dad was the one to configure the network
[04:08] <slashjamiec> orlok: Mines at home, I'm at the office.
[04:08] <high-freq> k
[04:08] <dospod> and I even dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:08] <jkonami> so I'm still working out my video problems.  I have the newest ati drivers installed, everything displays ok.  but compiz still has wierd bugs.. if I disable compiz then I have response time problems (everything seems slow to click on or to type) but it's not like that with compiz turned on
[04:08] <orlok> pygmymath: even, compizconfig-settings-manager
[04:08] <dseomn> Serveck: using the wrong connection method isn't likely to work, regardless of having the right key ;)
[04:09] <high-freq> dospod, try comparing those two files..maybe xorg is messed
[04:09] <high-freq> brb
[04:09] <JPRuskin> night all
[04:09] <dospod> I don't have the old file anymore : \
[04:09] <parkinm> Serveck, having problems connecting to wireless network?
[04:09] <Serveck> hmm.. it sees it, it just wont pull the ip
[04:09] <slashjamiec> night JPRuskin!
[04:09] <pygmymath> orlok: what for?
[04:09] <SpArTaKo> sudo ln -s /usr/bin/wish8.4 /usr/bin/wish
[04:09] <Adantan_Alex> look....
[04:09] <Serveck> yea, i got my wireless card to work, wont connect
[04:09] <jkonami> however, I didn't want to use compiz all the time because some programs I want to work right now (particularly gncash) have rendering problems
[04:09] <SpArTaKo> what is   sudo ln -s /usr/bin/wish8.4 /usr/bin/wish
[04:09] <slashjamiec> I'm going IDLE for a bit, cyas!
[04:09] <dospod> and I hate xorg configuring idk why
[04:09] <Adantan_Alex> dospod: are you using a router? Adantan_Alex
[04:09] <slashjamiec> Thanks for your help everyone!
[04:09] <Adantan_Alex> bye
[04:10] <Adantan_Alex> any time
[04:10] <slashjamiec> cheers.
[04:10] <dseomn> SpArTaKo: it makes wish and link to wish8.4
[04:10] <dospod> my wireless card dosen't work out of box
[04:10] <Adantan_Alex> ok
[04:10] <Adantan_Alex> !hardware: dospod
[04:10] <Adantan_Alex> oops
[04:10] <d3lf1n0> hi
[04:10] <Adantan_Alex> !hardware | dospod
[04:10] <d3lf1n0> excused I would want to know if the router beyond to having the hole for ethernet it has also the normal hole thanks… excused my ugly English but I am Italian
[04:10] <ubotu> dospod: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[04:10] <dseomn> SpArTaKo: so that running wish will actually run the command wish8.4
[04:10] <jkonami> so if anyone has any experience with this gnucash rendering problem under compiz, I'm looking for a workaround at least.. and any suggestions for alternates to compiz or metacity
[04:10] <happyface_> I apt-get installed kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu, and didnt like kubuntu so switched back. Now my login screen is stuck at kubuntu and i have many kde apps... help!
[04:11] <dospod> dv5000 pavillion , 1.8 ghz turion 64, 1 gig ram , 80 gig hd , bc43xx wifi card, dvd-rw, 15.4 widescreen and thats about it
[04:11] <nabcore> any one use acx?
[04:11] <dospod> and I thought I was gonna get around to using kde 4 tonite : \
[04:11] <Adantan_Alex> omg installation done i think
[04:12] <Adantan_Alex> woot woot
[04:12] <Adantan_Alex> hmmmm
[04:13] <pygmymath> dospod: if you have a working ubuntu, sudo apt-get install kde4-core worked for me
[04:13] <frozenskunk> guardoftheguards: sorry about that, had to take the dogs outside, give me another miunute
[04:13] <Serveck> dospod, it should work fine, i just got ubuntu on my V2000 compaq presario (essentially the same computer)
[04:13] <pygmymath> happyface_: sudo apt-get remove kde4-core sudo apt-get autoremove
[04:13] <dospod> serveck and it dosen't : \
[04:13] <pygmymath> happyface_: thats to remove kde4 and then any un-needed programs
[04:14] <dospod> and the other versions I used to have on it worked
[04:14] <happyface_> thanks pygmymath
[04:14] <pygmymath> happyface_: no problemo.
[04:14] <dseomn> happyface_: be careful with autoremove, it could want to remove stuff you don't want it to
[04:14] <happyface_> i want to remove all kde stuff
[04:14] <pygmymath> dseomn: thanks for the heads up. any way to restrict it?
[04:14] <dseomn> happyface_: autoremove should do that, but check to make sure it doesn't remove other stuff too
[04:14] <Serveck> what problem are you having?
[04:15] <happyface_> thanks dseomn
[04:15] <dseomn> pygmymath: there's no clean fix as far as I know
[04:15] <dseomn> happyface_: no prob
[04:15] <guardoftheguards> frozenskunk: No problem.  Thanks for this.
[04:15] <pygmymath> dseomn: shame.. i've used it a few times with no problems on this box
[04:15] <happyface_> dseomn: pygmymath: also, when I ctr+alt+(F1-F4), I get a blank screen instead of a console
[04:15] <dseomn> pygmymath: yeah, it all depends on how you installed the software in the first place
[04:15] <pygmymath> ah right got you
[04:16] <frozenskunk> guardoftheguards: no problem, no one seems to be able to help with mine, I might as well help some one while I'm here waiting...
[04:16] <pygmymath> dseomn: if its not been apt-got then it might uninstall it style of thing?
[04:16] <prettyricky> can some one guide me on installing AWN!
[04:16] <dseomn> pygmymath: yeah, it's more complex than that, but that's the basic idea
[04:16] <pygmymath> dseomn: everything always is heh
[04:16] <Serveck> when i go to change my network settings, there is no option for WPA key
[04:17] <dseomn> happyface_: that's usually a problem with getty or init, I'd need more details to be able to help
[04:17] <dseomn> Serveck: are you using network-manager-gnome?
[04:18] <sarcher> hi
[04:18] <dseomn> happyface_: have you customized anything in the init system or installed a different getty program?
[04:18] <Serveck> no, where is that?
[04:18] <sarcher> I'm running 8.04 beta with all the latest updates
[04:18] <happyface_> dseomn: I don't think so
[04:18] <dospod> does 8.4 at least work
[04:18] <sarcher> I got a message failed to initialize HAL
[04:18] <dospod> I wouldn't mind downloading the iso and burning it to just to get my laptop up and running
[04:18] <sarcher> the network won't start or anything now
[04:18] <sarcher> everything was working except sound
[04:19] <dospod> damnit
[04:19] <Adantan_Alex> my installation keeps messing up at.... 100 percent
[04:19] <sarcher> now sound works and everything else doesn't :)
[04:19] <orlok> Hmm, move window is alt-f7, right?
[04:19] <happyface_> dseomn: ubuntu says I need a system restart brb
[04:19] <Adantan_Alex> then my computer sais could not boot operating system then i restart then it works
[04:20] <orlok> ubuntu should tell me to get a beer
[04:20] <Adantan_Alex> XD
[04:20] <magicsword> ok....I see the sun java website...but is there a linke to ubuntu java???
[04:20] <Adantan_Alex> ok well
[04:20] <Adantan_Alex> orlok: u want a beer? request that in the updates :P
[04:20] <Adantan_Alex> j/k lol
[04:20] <dseomn> orlok: apt-get beer
[04:20]  * orlok does an apt-cache search
[04:21] <orlok> ohhh
[04:21] <orlok> woo, homebrew recepie calculator!
[04:21] <Adantan_Alex> apt-get something
[04:21] <orlok> i got a homebrew kit for my 31st last week!
[04:21] <torpedo|dog> E: Invalid operation beer
[04:21] <torpedo|dog> :(
[04:21] <Adantan_Alex> cool
[04:21] <orlok> its qbrew
[04:21] <orlok> Hmm, Coopers.
[04:21] <torpedo|dog> say, has anybody had trouble getting the Sun Java 6 plugin to work in Firefox?
[04:22] <magicsword> can anyone assist me with a link to download java for ubuntu???
[04:22] <dseomn> torpedo|dog: I was just kidding (but don't worry it doesn't hose your system)
[04:22] <troxor> 1java
[04:22] <troxor> !java
[04:22] <ubotu> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[04:22]  * troxor <-- fail
[04:23] <troxor> torpedo|dog: try apt-get moo
[04:23] <torpedo|dog> I already have pretty much everything Ubuntu Sun Java 6 has to offer. It worked back in the days of Gutsy Gibbon, now not so much.
[04:23] <magicsword> thanks
[04:23] <happyface_> I still have kde as my login screen, and ubuntu still says I need a restart, and I still have all my kde apps
[04:23] <Serveck> how do i get the HEX key for my wireless router?
[04:23] <kveldulf> howdy
[04:23] <kveldulf> anyone alive here?
[04:23] <Serveck> yea
[04:24] <kveldulf> oh wow
[04:24] <frozenskunk> guardoftheguards: http://pastebin.com/m52b5f1c7 is how I have mine set up, you can see how I do the dual display with the screen0 and 1 at the bottom.
[04:24] <kveldulf> cool
[04:24] <Shihan> hi guys, is there an ubuntu sparc channel?
[04:24] <torpedo|dog> Serveck: did you set a normal passphrase to your router, in regular english?
[04:24] <torpedo|dog> (or whatever language)
[04:24] <travisat> I didn't know ubuntu supported sparc
[04:24] <Serveck> yes, its a passphrase
[04:24] <tritium> travisat: unofficial port
[04:24] <travisat> ah
[04:24] <Serveck> its 10 characters
[04:24] <torpedo|dog> you should be able to type that in
[04:24] <Shihan> i dont think it an unofficial port at all
[04:24] <Serveck> i did, will not connect
[04:24] <tritium> travisat: let me clarify, official for now.  Unofficial next release.
[04:24] <strabes> is anyone else's rhythmbox unable to play after resuming from suspend?
[04:24] <Serveck> ill brb guys
[04:25] <dseomn> happyface_: "apt-get remove libqt3-mt" should get rid of everything that uses QT (the layer under KDE)
[04:25] <Shihan> in fact, im pretty sure sun and ubuntu partnered to bring out ubuntu sparc... iirc
[04:25] <basilf> anyone upgrade to 8.04
[04:25] <Housefly7k> Hi, I ran the memtest86 on a laptop, I got a couple of errors which I took a picture of, And midway the computer just froze and gave a black screen
[04:25] <tritium> Shihan: dropped for next release
[04:25] <Housefly7k> Any help interpreting the errors?
[04:25] <frozenskunk> guardoftheguards: looking through that, a lot of those comments are someone elses, so I have done some cut-pasting from somewhere to get that working
[04:25] <Shihan> bummer.. never really gotten ubuntu sparc to work yet...
[04:25] <kveldulf> is this the right place to ask about networking stuff (involving wifi and evdo)?
[04:25] <happyface_> dseomn: the kubuntu login says it cant find the graphical login, and gives me a less-graphical login window
[04:25] <travisat> I knew debian was supported on sparc, so its not that great a leap
[04:25] <tritium> Shihan: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2008-March/000400.html
[04:25] <balthazargu1> Hey all, I know this is the Ubuntu room, but everyone is away at the WInehq room... I have a problem with Wine showing all of my game when I'm running it.
[04:26] <balthazargu1> With Wine Not showing all of my game*
[04:26] <troxor> Housefly7k: bad ram ;)
[04:26] <dseomn> happyface_: "apt-get install gdm kdm-" will get you using the gnome login screen
[04:26] <Shihan> yeah, thats kewl... i've been using 7.04 and 6.06 anyways
[04:26] <torpedo|dog> heh, the moment I ask about my java browser woes, they go away :)
[04:27] <guardoftheguards> frozenskunk: from here? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Gutsy_hardware_pvr-350_TV-out#head-9603941b9f3a3f4667cc4dd1a9eb74d376d3f39f
[04:27] <Housefly7k> troxor: the laptop is my friends and although it has vista :curse: I thought i would run the memtest from the live cd
[04:27] <basilf> I have a Acer Aspire 5050 5430 and can't install Linux locks at the start
[04:27] <Housefly7k> troxor: it keeps randomly restarting and dying so i figured it may be a RAM issue
[04:27] <Shihan> wasnt that important anyways, just wanted to try get some recent hw from sun running sparc just to annoy the sun sales guy
[04:28] <palomer> my computer shuts down when I leave it idle for a long time
[04:28] <palomer> why??!
[04:28] <kveldulf> does anyone know how i can sorta...bridge a wifi connection to evdo?
[04:29] <Starnestommy> palomer: it's either your power settings or your batter
[04:29] <Starnestommy> *battery
[04:29] <Piffer> palomer: also how long is "a long time" ?
[04:29] <kveldulf> like so data on a wireless network that isn't connected to the outside world can be sent through a laptop with an evdo card in it?
[04:29] <sboysel> is it a laptop?
[04:29] <maynards-girl> 21 days until the release?
[04:30] <Piffer> kveldulf... ?
[04:30] <kveldulf> Piffer: ?
[04:30] <frozenskunk> guardoftheguards: It's possible, I know that I have read the part of that about setting up the 350 output and configuring it for X, but I remember having problems when I enabled the 350 in myth settings, and I don't have it enabled now. The comments in my xorg.conf are from somewhere else I think, so I must have had to look elasewhere...
[04:30] <dseomn> donkey ?
[04:31] <Piffer> last thing you said... made no sense...
[04:31] <frozenskunk> guardoftheguards: Sorry I'm being so vague, it's been almost a year since I got mine going...
[04:31] <kveldulf> i have a wireless router that i can connect to with the laptop
[04:31] <Piffer> ok
[04:31] <kveldulf> but the router is just...on it's own, it doesn't have an internet connection
[04:31] <Piffer> ok
[04:31] <kveldulf> but i do have an evdo card in my laptop
[04:32] <RAV> Before i nag the whole lot of you, just wanna say Hello, how yall doing?
[04:32] <Gilou> kveldulf> if "evdo" has something like IP, you probably can, yes
[04:32] <kveldulf> and i want to direct traffic that is being sent to my laptop through the wireless router over evdo to a server out on the internets
[04:32] <palomer> Starnestommy, how do I change my power setting (im on a desktop)
[04:32] <Piffer> ah, you would have to configure your laptop to act as a gateway, and then point the default gateway on the router to point to your laptop. Then anyone on the wifi can get online...
[04:32] <kveldulf> ahhh
[04:32] <palomer> Piffer, I don't know how long but every time I leave I come back and its off
[04:32] <kveldulf> that makes sense
[04:32] <Piffer> easier said than done... as I'm not a guru by a long shot :-0
[04:33] <kveldulf> yeah, but that is the best explanation i've had so far tonight
[04:33] <Starnestommy> palomer: system > preferences > power management?
[04:33] <happyface_> dseomn: that command fixed it, thanks! (it also doesnt need me to restart anymore)... can you help me fix my broken multisession bash terminals? :)
[04:33] <Piffer> good..
[04:33] <Piffer> also kveldulf, you from Norway?
[04:33] <Gilou> you could also directly bridge it for real, but something using masquerading or source nat will probably be easier to setup
[04:33] <frozenskunk> kveldulf: Evdo has lot's of issues, dropping connections all the time is one of them...
[04:33] <manguy> what's the difference between apt-get and aptitude exactly?
[04:33] <kveldulf> Piffer: nope, just liked the guy in the story
[04:33] <dseomn> happyface_: no prob, but I'm going to bed soon, so I'll only help if it's quick
[04:33] <Gilou> how good is "evdo"
[04:34] <Gilou> we have 3G+ here
[04:34] <ozkUGH> hi im curious if xubuntu install cd has wicd on it? or does it install it already during installation?
[04:34] <Gilou> how does it relate
[04:34] <kveldulf> you know, i'm not sure if it's evdo or 3g
[04:34] <Starnestommy> manguy: aptitude has an interactive interface when you run it with no arguments
[04:34] <kveldulf> its a verizon 5750 pcmcia card
[04:34] <happyface_> ok, well they worked semi-ok before... the resolution was a bit off, but now it shows a black screen dseomn
[04:34] <manguy> Starnestommy: ahh ok, thanks
[04:34] <kveldulf> but it seems pretty fast
[04:34] <frozenskunk> Gilou depends on your area, I have it and don't like it much, but a LOT of that is the stupid piece of &*&^% Linksys router I that I have...
[04:34] <RAV> I have a brand new a6460t HP pavilion PC. And it has a built in wireless card. But when i installed Ubuntu 7.04 it will recognize it, but when i select my network, it says 'connected to wireless at (0%)'  and i can asure you that the router is less then 5 feet away.
[04:34] <chipbuddy> !ipod
[04:34] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod
[04:35] <chipbuddy> !rockbox
[04:35] <ubotu> rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[04:35] <dseomn> happyface_: laptop or desktop? lcd or crt?
[04:36] <chipbuddy> does anyone have an ipod they use with rhythmbox? i've got a fairly straightforward question
[04:36] <bazhang> RAV: what wireless card type lspci in the terminal and report please (just one line)
[04:36] <happyface_> dseomn: desktop, I switched from an LCD to a CRT recently
[04:36] <happyface_> dseomn: not to mention, the CRT I switched to has a lower resolution
[04:36] <dseomn> happyface_: is that when the problem showed up?
[04:36] <bazhang> chipbuddy: newest ipod? then need to compile libgpod 0.6.0 or wait for next release in three weeks
[04:36] <travisat> chipbuddy: I use it on a different mp3 player
[04:37] <happyface_> dseomn: possibly, I haven't used this PC in awhile
[04:37] <chipbuddy> bazhang, i've been able to use it just fine (putting songs on and off), i just want to know if there's a way to see the total amount of time currently on the ipod
[04:37] <chipbuddy> i can manually add up all the numbers, but it's kind of a pain
[04:37] <dseomn> happyface_: can you post the output of "grep vga= /boot/grub/menu.lst | grep defoptions=" please (it should only be 1 line)
[04:37] <bazhang> chipbuddy: not sure about rhythmbox; amarok does that just fine though
[04:37] <happyface_> ## e.g. defoptions=vga=791 resume=/dev/hda5
[04:38] <happyface_> dseomn: ## e.g. defoptions=vga=791 resume=/dev/hda5
[04:38] <chipbuddy> bazhang, ok thanks, i'll try that
[04:38] <dseomn> happyface_: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst as root, and get rid of "vga=791 " from that line
[04:38] <bastid_raZor> is the bot still dead?
[04:38] <dseomn> happyface_: then run "sudo update-grub" and reboot if there are no errors
[04:38] <kahtov> !
[04:39] <bazhang> bastid_raZor: the !info seems to be not working atm
[04:39] <Testing> Hey there i just got my new computer today, it has a HD 2600XT Radeon gphx card, which of the Ati driver release's should i be using for it?
[04:39] <dseomn> happyface_: that will decrease your resolution by a lot, but it should work at least
[04:39] <bastid_raZor> bazhang; okay.. i was wanting to pick its brain on samba
[04:39] <dseomn> * text-mode resolution
[04:39] <bazhang> !samba
[04:39] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[04:39] <kveldulf_> heh
[04:39] <Testing> !xorg
[04:39] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:39] <Kleber_0> small
[04:40] <kveldulf_> so apparently pulling out the pcmcia card at the wrong time doesn't make ubuntu happy
[04:40] <happyface_> dseomn: if you notice, it seems the vga=791 is in comments, and the code doesn't actually execute
[04:40] <nikrud> Testing the one on ati's site, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide is kinda involved, but works properly with gutsy
[04:40] <dseomn> happyface_: I know, but it's a special kind of commen, read "man update-grub" if you're interested
[04:40] <bazhang> might make it freeze up KveldUlf
[04:40] <bastid_raZor> bazhang; i notice !samba refers to windows shares.. what about from one ubuntu box to another on the same network?
[04:40] <bazhang> !nfs
[04:40] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[04:40] <KveldUlf> bazhang: indeed it did
[04:40] <Kleber_0>  8-) assunto é o que não falta
[04:40] <metbsd> what ports does samba smbd and nmbd use?
[04:41] <troxor> bastid_raZor: scp works too
[04:41] <bazhang> portuguese Kleber_0?
[04:41] <nikrud> happyface_ that commented line is used by update-grub to construct the uncommented section between BEGIN DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC and END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC
[04:41] <bastid_raZor> troxor; true. i'm trying to mount /mp3 from one box to another.
[04:41] <RAV> Well im dual booting right now so i cannot enter that command right now. But i looked at it in my device manager and it says USB wireless but its built in, i dont understand. And does it help that the WIRE connection does not work either?
[04:41] <dseomn> happyface_: oops, sorry
[04:41] <dseomn> happyface_: ignore what I said, you're right
[04:42] <happyface_> :O
[04:42] <nikrud> dseomn no, your instructions were correct
[04:42] <troxor> bastid_raZor: you can use the gnome connect to server mechanism, selecting the ssh option
[04:42] <bazhang> RAV: kind of hard to troubleshoot without direct access; in that case it would be lsusb
[04:42] <u-it> I am trying to backup files to a network directory... but I dont know how to reference network directories from bash... (using ubuntu)
[04:42] <u-it> can anyone help?
[04:42] <happyface_> dseomn: I tried it anyway, and it just added the vga=791 back into menu.lst
[04:43] <dseomn> nikrud: see the part "e.g."
[04:43] <bastid_raZor> troxor; where might that be? is that a GUI type setup?
[04:43] <RAV> bazbang: Is there any reason why the WIRED connection does not work? and when i click the icon in the coner next to the clock the WIRED connection is greyed out
[04:43] <nikrud> happyface_ dseomn hahah misplaced your for example I see
[04:43] <troxor> bastid_raZor: yep, it's in the places menu, if you want a completely CLI way to do it, sshfs is good
[04:43] <dseomn> happyface_: go to the line under that, and add "vga=771 " right before "quiet"
[04:43] <Zelta> I need some help with getting flash to work in Firefox 3 beta
[04:44] <bastid_raZor> troxor; ahh.. i'm blind 'connect to server' .. either way is fine.. i just need to learn how to do it
[04:44] <dseomn> nikrud: yeah, the whole "#" vs. "##" thing is confusing when you can't read
[04:44] <bazhang> RAV: what is the ethernet controller? need direct access to check it out again; best try lspci for that then ifconfig to see if it brings up eth0 and finally sudo dhclient eth0 to get a connection
[04:45] <Testing> im thinking of just installing the restricted drivers the easy way, but what do the latest ati drivers offer compared to the default one which is installed with the restricted driver manager?
[04:45] <RAV> aiight im going to see if i can install IRC client on my iphone to communicate with you while i go to my ubunut
[04:45] <kindofabuzz> use your iphone to iirc while iubuhuntin
[04:45] <kindofabuzz> lol
[04:46] <happyface_> dseomn: I wrote vga=771 at the line before quiet, did a update-grub, and it just reset the menul.lst file and I get a blank screen still
[04:47] <dseomn> happyface_: did you reboot?
[04:47] <happyface_> no sir
[04:47] <happyface_> brb then.
[04:47] <nikrud> Zelta ln -s /etc/alternatives/firefox-flashplugin ~/.mozilla/plugins  should work
[04:47] <Zelta> Well, Firefox is installed to ~/firefox
[04:47] <Zelta> Firefox 3 is, at least
[04:48] <Zelta> Firefox 2 is installed to ~/.mozilla/firefox
[04:48] <code_kill> who her is good with web developement?
[04:48] <nikrud> Zelta firefox3 should be using ~/.mozilla/* for config, does firefox3 use your firefox2 bookmarks?
[04:48] <Zelta> No
[04:48] <code_kill> i got a project to better the ubuntu movement, and user experience.
[04:48] <simpletron> hi all
[04:49] <icesword> Dave2, hi
[04:49] <Zelta> nikrud: The thing is, in Firefox 3, it says there is no flash.  In Firefox 2, I can see flash videos (Youtube for example), but when it starts to load, Firefox crashes
[04:49] <bastid_raZor> troxor; awesome.. the GUI is extremely simple. thanks
[04:49] <nikrud> Zelta then ls ~/firefox , see if there's a plugin dir. If not, create it. then  ln -s /etc/alternatives/firefox-plugin ~/firefox/plugins/
[04:49] <bastid_raZor> troxor; GUI method i should say.
[04:49] <dseomn> Zelta: are you running 64-bit ubuntu?
[04:49] <Zelta> No.
[04:49] <simpletron> i will buy a new thinkpad laptop but i dont know what model between a T61 or T60 what is better?
[04:49] <_gunfire> frozenskunk: It's fine.
[04:50] <nikrud> Zelta that is create the dir ~/firefox/plugins if needed
[04:50] <happyface_> dseomn: no dice :(   I just noticed that I don't get an ubuntu splash screen either when booting
[04:50] <Zelta> okay
[04:50] <code_kill> who wants to maybe discuss a co-op in a "complete driver database" "net search site " to ease the use of ubuntu?
[04:50] <Zelta> There is already that dir
[04:50] <Flannel> code_kill: #ubuntu-offtopic would be a good place to ask, not here.
[04:50] <dseomn> happyface_: ok, you should probably just undo the changes I had you make, run update-grub, and keep trying
[04:50] <Masticore> Is it possible to remove the subdirs in the menu in KDE? Instead of Internet>Webbrowsers>Firefox, its just Internet>Firefox, like in Gnome.
[04:51] <dseomn> happyface_: I need to sleep now, sorry
[04:51] <happyface_> thanks anyway, :D
[04:51] <Zelta> nikrud: My Firefox 2 dir looks considerably different than my Firefox 3 one
[04:51] <code_kill> sorry, but wouldn't that fall under here, or more or less just tech support?
[04:51] <code_kill> sorry bout that
[04:52] <Zelta> nikrud: I think the problem may lie in that I used automatix2 for acquiring flash codecs originally (I realize it is not supported and not recommended)
[04:52] <nikrud> Zelta the ~/.mozilla/firefox dir is config, you would need to look at /usr/lib/firefox would be more likely to resemble your ~/firefox
[04:52] <Wikstrom> Hey guys whats up?
[04:52] <alan_m> it would fall under discussions to the server team maybe, code_kill, but...yeah......whatever it falls under...this isnt the place.
[04:52] <bazhang> simpletron: whichever has the intel wireless is the best choice
[04:52] <code_kill> hey wikstrom
[04:52] <alan_m> hey Wikstrom
[04:52] <nikrud> Zelta that install is pretty safe
[04:53] <Wikstrom> so whats the topic so far?
[04:53] <troxor> bastid_raZor: np
[04:53] <bazhang> Wikstrom: read /topic
[04:53] <Zelta> Well, .mp3 files crash Rythmbox music player, also, nikrud
[04:53] <Flannel> code_kill: Maybe I'm just not understanding what you're saying.  Like I said, you should bring it up in -offtopic
[04:53] <Zelta> So I think it is not entirely Firefox's fault
[04:53] <nikrud> Zelta heh. automatix does do things
[04:53] <nikrud> Zelta have you tried linking that plugin into ~/firefox/plugins yet?
[04:54] <Zelta> I just did
[04:54] <Zelta> I will have to exit as I am using chatzilla.  brb
[04:56] <Wikstrom> so just by show of what every you feel like who is using beryl?
[04:57] <Zelta> nikrud: I did it, but Firefox 3 still tells me I need the download a plugin
[04:57] <alabamahit> Did xChat just release a new version?
[04:57] <bazhang> compiz-fusion is it now not beryl Wikstrom
[04:57] <iNoob> Is there anything similar to boot camp (on os x) that runs on linux and will compile a list of drivers for my hardware to work with XP for a dual boot?
[04:58] <Wikstrom> oh ya lol sorry
[04:58] <nikrud> Zelta ls -l  /etc/alternatives/firefox-plugin , is that red?
[04:58] <Wikstrom> slip of the tounge
[04:58] <Flannel> alabamahit: no
[04:58] <Wikstrom> wine
[04:58] <Zelta> No such file or directory
[04:58] <Wikstrom> wine is a windows emularior
[04:58] <Wikstrom> Emulator
[04:58] <bazhang> iNoob: in a vm? or just a straight dual boot
[04:58] <alabamahit> Oh, I just insatlled it and it looks different than the first time i did, lol
[04:58] <Zelta> Wikstrom: Wine Is Not an Emulator
[04:58] <Zelta> :p
[04:58] <iNoob> bazhang: straight dual boot
[04:59] <iNoob> Zelta: is wine not an emulation layer for windows? :P
[04:59] <bazhang> iNoob: not that I am aware of
[04:59] <Zelta> iNoob: Technically, it lets it run natively
[04:59] <Zelta> I think
[04:59] <nikrud> Zelta hah! man, some installs seem to have that, some don't. Is   ls /etc/alternatives/libjava_oji.so  -l   red?
[04:59] <iNoob> Zelta: that's like saying zsnes isnt an emulator because once a game loads, it is running natively
[04:59] <Flannel> iNoob: No, wine is not an emulator.  Its an ABI compatability layer.
[05:00] <bazhang> api
[05:00] <iNoob> Flannel: OK :P I was just causing trouble
[05:00] <nikrud> wine is a fake.
[05:00] <alabamahit> It's weird there is no User list on the right side anymore. Its on the bottom next to where you trype
[05:00] <iNoob> What would be the best windows compatibility API to use to run photoshop? The problem I had with Wine was the fact that i couldnt make text for some reason
[05:00] <alabamahit> anywho.....I came here to ask a question about my display
[05:00] <Zelta> nikrud: also, no such file or directory
[05:01] <alan_m> alabamahit, just ask it :)
[05:01] <nikrud> Zelta    sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree , then check both again
[05:01] <FarmerBobGoesMoo> Quick test to see if this client works
[05:01] <bassinboylp> hey all, how can I turn on LBA support for my old machine (using a 250gb WD)
[05:01] <iNoob> What do you suggest for running windows apps like Photoshop (CS or CS3 works)
[05:01] <Zelta> nikrud: flashplugin-nonfree is already installed
[05:02] <Zelta> It returns "flashplugin-nonfree is already the latest version"
[05:02] <Zelta> iNoob: WINE does not support CS3
[05:02] <FarmerBobGoesMoo> Hello?
[05:02] <FarmerBobGoesMoo> Is anybody here?
[05:02] <Wikstrom> ya im here
[05:02] <bazhang> FarmerBobGoesMoo: yes
[05:02] <iNoob> Zelta: WINE doesnt seem to support CS either :-/
[05:02] <nikrud> Zelta ls -l /etc/alternatives/libjava* , is anything there?
[05:02] <Y-Town> Zelta: Are you trying to get flash to work?
[05:02] <alabamahit> It was working fine and last night I just installed Linux for the first time wOOt <--nOOb :)....But I redone it cause I did alot of stuff and I didnt know what ot undo it. YOu knwo just playing with it :)...but after the re-install it was good and then out of no where the display is messed up..best way to describe is liek the refresh rate is off...or the hertz is wrong<-maybe the same thing....but its right its set to 60 im in US on Ubuntu 7.10
[05:02] <Zelta> Yes, Y-Town
[05:02] <nikrud> FarmerBobGoesMoo actually we're all hiding under the bed
[05:03] <FarmerBobGoesMoo> I knew it
[05:03] <Zelta> nikrud: No, no such file or directory, again
[05:03] <iNoob> Any reason why my monitor might be flickering every so often with ubuntu, but not with windows?
[05:03] <Wikstrom> Im to big for under the bed so im in the dresser
[05:03] <happy-sufferer> ok. i have an odd problem.  currently, my ubuntu 7.10 cannot connect to internet due to wireless pci card problem. I installed Xubuntu 8.04 on a separate partition and wireless card works there. This is now what I want to do: I want to upgrade from Ubuntu 7.10 to ubuntu 8.04 without using any CD discs. Would it be possible to somehow download all the required files for Ubuntu 8.04 while logged on to Xubuntu 8.04?
[05:03] <Zelta> iNoob: CRT or LCD?
[05:03] <iNoob> lcd
[05:03] <nikrud> Zelta dang, I got a wrong test, do   ls /etc/alternatives/*flash*
[05:03] <alabamahit> lol iNoob sounds the same as me LMAO
[05:03] <alan_m> that...was strange
[05:04] <alabamahit> Mine is LCD also i think, lol
[05:04] <Zelta> Yes, nikrud, that is there
[05:04] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for that happy-sufferer thanks
[05:04] <nikrud> Zelta ok, what did it return?
[05:04] <iNoob> I highly doubt that, alabamahit, and I don't know how you would know since I have never sent voice to you haha
[05:04] <pxwebdev> hi alll
[05:04] <Zelta> Shall I pastebin it or PM?
[05:04] <cyberpass2> hey all...i got the livecd for 7.10 and i copied its contents to a tiny partition (800megs), i want to install from that hard disk...
[05:04] <Y-Town> Zelta: http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=664242&highlight=adobe+flash+plug
[05:04] <cyberpass2> anyone know how?
[05:04] <cyberpass2> i know its a silly idea, but im in the mood of a mission
[05:05] <nikrud> Zelta just one line, should be. ls -l /etc/alternatives/*flash* -l , gimme one blue one
[05:05] <alabamahit> know what iNoob?
[05:05] <Zelta> /etc/alternatives/firefox-flashplugin
[05:05] <iNoob> but yeah.. does anyone know why my LCD would be flickering for some reason in Linux but not windows?
[05:05] <Zelta> And others are listed too, like xulrunner, and midbrowser
[05:05] <happy-sufferer> bazhang: but it's not really a ubuntu+1 issue.
[05:05] <bazhang> cyberpass2: that likely will not work; if you want a challenge you could mount the iso and run from that; there is also wubi, lubi and unetbootin
[05:05] <ubuntu> I have GRUB installed (just installed 7.10), but when I boot my computer it just goes straight to Vista.  How can I fix this?
[05:06] <pxwebdev> noob that sounds like you have the wrong monitor hrz selected or the wrong monitor chosen in the display section
[05:06] <bazhang> happy-sufferer: aye it is; all Hardy discussion there thanks
[05:06] <nikrud> Zelta hm, I think I had you link that into ~/firefox/plugins at the beginning.
[05:06] <cyberpass2> oooh ok....so mount the iso and run the install from that
[05:06] <cyberpass2> how do u do that?
[05:06] <nikrud> Zelta are you on hardy?
[05:06] <happy-sufferer> bazhang: don't you think it's a special case.... it's like if i were to ask how to go from Ubuntu 7.04 to Ubuntu 7.10 while logged in to Xubuntu 7.10, don't you think?
[05:06] <alabamahit> pxwebdev mine is doing the same...but i have checked the hrz and they are right...what is the other options it might be?
[05:06] <Zelta> No, Gutsy
[05:07] <bazhang> !hardy | happy-sufferer
[05:07] <ubotu> happy-sufferer: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[05:07] <happy-sufferer> bazhang: i know about hardy.
[05:07] <bazhang> happy-sufferer: please I have asked three times already that is the place
[05:07] <palomer> how do I play rmvb in ubuntu?
[05:07] <Sheeb> hey if i registered a name how can i find out my password again (i think i setup and email when i first registered it)
[05:07] <nikrud> Zelta so, ls ~/firefox/plugins/*flash* -l, is that blue, and pointing at /etc/alternatives/firefox-flashplugin?
[05:07] <bazhang> alabamahit: pastebin your xorg.conf please
[05:08] <Zelta> No, that returns no such file or directory...
[05:08] <alabamahit> bazhang: ? sorry didn't understand.
[05:09] <Y-Town> Zelta: did you install adobe flash from the repos and it just doesnt work?  id that whats going on?
[05:09] <alan_m> happy-sufferer, please put the output of lsb_release -a in a pastebin, thanks.
[05:09] <Kartel_> i need help installing ubuntu
[05:09] <Steven1> Anyone know how to use Cadega and what it is exactly?
[05:09] <xin000> Hi there! How can setup the default behavior of ls to display colorful scheme?:)
[05:09] <nikrud> Zelta then   ln -s /etc/alternatives/firefox-flashplugin ~/firefox/plugins/
[05:09] <Zelta> Y-Town: It was working before, and now it is not working in Firefox 2 or Firefox 3.
[05:09] <Kartel_> my system is giving all sorts of areas in the boot screen after i select to install the software
[05:09] <Kartel_> can anyone here help
[05:09] <Y-Town> Zelta: AHHH OK
[05:09] <Kartel_> this is my first time using linux
[05:09] <bazhang> Steven1: it is the commercial version of wine; more info in #winehq it lets you run windows apps under linux
[05:09] <pxwebdev> have you tried changing the resolution?
[05:10] <Zelta> nikrud: Now ls ~/firefox/plugins/*flash* -l returns blue
[05:10] <nikrud> Zelta check it again (firefox flash)
[05:10] <Zelta> Will I need to restart Firefox, do you imagine?
[05:10] <Kartel_> :(
[05:10] <Steven1> bazhang. Ok I figured so. But I can't figure out how to run it.
[05:10] <nikrud> Zelta for ff3 . Maybe, maybe not.
[05:10] <hobbzilla> Hey all!  I have run DNS/postfix/apache/mysql all on the same server and I realize it is _faster_ than running them all in their own virtual instance, but curious as to other people's thoughts about seperating them out.
[05:10] <alabamahit> bazhang: did you want me to paste my xorg.conf file?
[05:10] <Zelta> well it isn't working without a restart, so let me see
[05:10] <bazhang> alabamahit: aye to pastebin do you know the address?
[05:11] <Kartel_> hd:error code: 0x70 sense_key: 0x03 asc: 0x02 ascq:0x00
[05:11] <Kartel_> what does this mean
[05:11] <palomer> no sound is coming out of realplayer
[05:12] <[HeMp]> hey anyone can give me some help ?
[05:12] <Zelta> nikrud: Sweet, it worked!  Thanks a lot :)
[05:12] <nikrud> !ask | [HeMp]
[05:12] <ubotu> [HeMp]: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[05:12] <alan_m> [HeMp]: not unless you tell us whats going on
[05:12] <[HeMp]> i just bought a new wlan card
[05:12] <alabamahit> bazhang: yeah i found that file before its /etc/X11/xorg.conf right? but if i copy and paste it here it would flood? is that what you want me to do?
[05:12] <nikrud> Zelta if I hadn't had a typo in the very first line I gave you, we wouldn't have had to do all this troubleshooting ;)
[05:12] <[HeMp]> tew 443 pi
[05:12] <Zelta> hahah
[05:12] <[HeMp]> and ubuntu 7.10 recognized it
[05:12] <[HeMp]> but i wanna use kismet
[05:12] <alan_m> [hemp] please dont use enter as punctuation, thanks.
[05:13] <xin000> Hi! How can I set the default behavior of ls to display color scheme? Thanks a lot:)
[05:13] <bazhang> alabamahit: dont paste here; please post to the !paste link and then give us the url
[05:13] <[HeMp]> kismet.gives me a problem
[05:13] <Zelta> nikrud: Somehow that also fixed my problem of playing .mp3s... lol
[05:13] <pxwebdev> how can I get gusty gibbon to display my drives in kde or gnome?
[05:13] <nikrud> xin000 add the line   alias ls='ls --color'    to  ~/.bashrc, then open a fresh terminal
[05:13] <Kartel_> free cookies to the person who helps me solve my problem
[05:13] <pxwebdev> sorry they are SCSI raid drives
[05:14] <alabamahit> bazhang: I just started linux last night......are you saying to take a scrren shot or something else? I am very confussed, sorry...
[05:14] <[HeMp]> should i remove the restricted driver Atheros and use only madwifi ?
[05:14] <rav> bazgang: I'm in ubuntu now, my wired connection is still not working.
[05:14] <Kartel_> help!
[05:15] <[HeMp]> someone ?
[05:15] <[HeMp]> help!
[05:15] <bazhang> alabamahit: no worries here is the easiest method-- sudo apt-get install pastebinit then cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit which will give you a url to paste here thanks
[05:15] <Gekz> I have been asked to remaster a Ubuntu cd to include ClamAV >_> Is this easy?
[05:15] <nikrud> Kartel_ could you try asking the question again, but with a little more detail? The first one wasn't very clear
[05:15] <FAJALOU> ok friend trying to install battlefield
[05:15] <alan_m> [hemp], can you try putting all that on ONE line and tell us again whats going on?
[05:15] <FAJALOU> not working
[05:15] <Kartel_> ok
[05:15] <FAJALOU> any ideas suggestions
[05:15] <[HeMp]> ok
[05:15] <[HeMp]> i edited kismet.conf
[05:15] <xin000> nikrud: Thanks a lot!:-D
[05:15] <Kartel_> i tried installing ubuntu on my system
[05:15] <alabamahit> bazhang: what does pastebinit do? exactly. Im diong that now but I want to learn linux :) what exactly does that do?
[05:15] <Kartel_> i have 2 300 gb hard drives
[05:16] <Kartel_> 5 partitions in all
[05:16] <FAJALOU> he went through like you should do in sim city 4, put all disks on computer, and run
[05:16] <Kartel_> all ntfs
[05:16] <bazhang> rav: try ifconfig in the terminal and see if that gives you eth0 and lo; if so then try sudo dhclient eth0 to connect
[05:16] <FAJALOU> but not working
[05:16] <nikrud> Kartel_ one line, please
[05:16] <Kartel_> k
[05:16] <palomer> where do I get w32codecs?
[05:16] <[HeMp]> i do : sudo kismet -> and Server options:  none
[05:16] <[HeMp]> Client options:  none
[05:16] <[HeMp]> Starting server...
[05:16] <[HeMp]> Suid priv-dropping disabled.  This may not be secure.
[05:16] <[HeMp]> No specific sources given to be enabled, all will be enabled.
[05:16] <FloodBot1> [HeMp]: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:16] <[HeMp]> Enabling channel hopping.
[05:16] <alteregoa> high
[05:16] <FAJALOU> palomer
[05:16] <alteregoa> whats the default dir for firmware b43?
[05:16] <Kartel_> my problem is when i try to install ubuntu onto my system it give me errors like this hd:error code: 0x70 sense_key: 0x03 asc: 0x02 ascq:0x00
[05:16] <bazhang> alabamahit: that pastes whatever you pipe ( | ) to it and gives you a url to paste here--very handy indeed
[05:16] <FAJALOU> have you tried sudo apt-cache search w32codecs
[05:17] <alteregoa> _ /lib/firmware?
[05:17] <nikrud> Kartel_ basically you need to make a partition free for ubuntu to use, empty out one (at least 15gb) and go to the installer again
[05:17] <FAJALOU> palomer have you tried sudo apt-cache search w32codecs
[05:17] <Zelta> also, does anyone know if doing a hard shutdown in XP will stop me from mounting the NTFS partitions that Windows XP uses?
[05:17] <bazhang> FAJALOU: no need for sudo there
[05:17] <Kartel_> i do have a free partition
[05:17] <Odd-rationale> Zelta: yes
[05:17] <alan_m> ok, ill be back in a bit folks....something else needs my undivided attention.
[05:17] <nikrud> Kartel_ is it a hardware raid thing? If so, I have to bow out, I've never used raid
[05:17] <Zelta> Okay, just wanted to make sure nothing was wrong
[05:17] <FAJALOU> i bazhang i just throw it in front of most, just in case
[05:17] <Odd-rationale> Zelta: You must shutdown properly. or else you a force mount
[05:18] <Zelta> Problem is, XP takes around 10 minutes to shutdown ><
[05:18] <bazhang> palomer: from www.medibuntu.org the install instructions are on the site
[05:18] <alabamahit> bazhang: so it uploads a file or just make taht file acessable for other peopel to view?
[05:18] <Zelta> But I have a bigger hard drive problem
[05:18] <FAJALOU> zelta do you dual boot or is it a one time deal?
[05:18] <Zelta> Ubuntu will not recognize an external hard drive
[05:18] <Zelta> FAJALOU: Dual boot
[05:18] <bazhang> alabamahit: both if you paste the url here
[05:18] <Zelta> The external hard drive works fine in XP, but isn't even shown in ubuntu
[05:18] <amirman84> has anybody using ubuntu 8.04 had any success getting flash videos to work on firefox?
[05:18] <FAJALOU> ok, well then you would have to force mount, which isn't the best zelta
[05:19] <Kartel_> well itgave these 2 other errors ( buffer I/O code error device, logical block 320985) and this one Squashfs error: unable to read page, block 2709d262
[05:19] <bazhang> amirman84: #ubuntu+1 for that please
[05:19] <friedtofu> when's ubuntu 8.04 coming out?
[05:19] <nikrud> amirman84 hardy questions answered in #ubuntu+1 till release
[05:19] <bazhang> friedtofu: three weeks
[05:19] <Odd-rationale> friedtofu: april 24
[05:19] <rav> bazgang: it says dhcpdiscover on eth0 255.255.255.255 on port 67 interval 4. then it says nobworking leases sleeping
[05:19] <amirman84> thanks
[05:19] <Zelta> FAJALOU: well, I can just boot into XP and shut down correctly, right?
[05:19] <friedtofu> bazhang Odd-rationale - thanks
[05:20] <Kartel_> nikrud what do these errors mean?
[05:20] <nikrud> Zelta see you in a half hour ;)
[05:20] <FAJALOU> yah that should work zelta, it worked for my 2000 partition after i accidently did a hard shutdown
[05:20] <Zelta> bye nikrud
[05:20] <Zelta> okay FAJALOU
[05:20] <alabamahit> http://paste.stgraber.org/2278
[05:20] <Steven1> Ok there is no one speaking in the other channels so can someone please help me with wine-doors, and cedega here?
[05:20] <Zelta> Also, FAJALOU, do you know how I can get ubuntu to recognize an external hard drive I have plugged into via USB?
[05:20] <nikrud> Kartel_ not sure without more context; failing drive? Poor connections?
[05:20] <FAJALOU> at startup?
[05:21] <FAJALOU> or just plug in?
[05:21] <alabamahit> bazhang: So basickally its just uploads a file to paste.stgraber.org
[05:21] <Zelta> Just, any time
[05:21] <alabamahit> ?
[05:21] <Zelta> But, yeah, at startup
[05:21] <bazhang> rav I nearly missed your post--my nick is bazhang not bazbang ;] is this a router connected to a dsl modem or just direct to the dsl modem; also is this gutsy ubuntu?
[05:21] <FAJALOU> i've never tried it,
[05:21] <Zelta> Well, it's plugged in now, and ubuntu doesn't seem to recognize it
[05:21] <Kartel_> hmmm
[05:21] <Zelta> It's not just not mounted, it just isn't shown
[05:21] <FAJALOU> really??? is it just files?
[05:21] <Kartel_> let me try to play with my hardware
[05:21] <Zelta> Yeah
[05:21] <Zelta> I think it is NTFS partitioned
[05:21] <bazhang> alabamahit: aye
[05:21] <Zelta> formatted, rather
[05:21] <nikrud> I still thing it should be bazang , has some pizzaz
[05:21] <alabamahit> Sorry closeed the wrong window
[05:21] <FAJALOU> hmmm, b/c i can see my partition of ntfs fine on the partition zelta
[05:21] <Kartel_> one mroe question should i format the drive in fat 32 or ntfs to install ubuntu?
[05:22] <bazhang> haha nickrud oops nikrud
[05:22] <FAJALOU> try googling usb disk on startup
[05:22] <FAJALOU> or something like that.
[05:22] <Zelta> okay
[05:22] <Steven1> Can someone help me set up Cedega? I went to wine-hq and the cedega channels and no one is talking.
[05:22] <FAJALOU> and that should bring you to ubuntu forums
[05:22] <FAJALOU> or at least some instruction
[05:22] <FAJALOU> when in doubt google it
[05:22] <bazhang> !google | FAJALOU
[05:22] <ubotu> FAJALOU: google is the helpers' friend; many newer users dont have the google-fu yet; For GNU/Linux:  http://google.com/linux
[05:22] <pepsi> is there a way i can copy the install cd to a flash drive and boot from that? my optical drive is broken
[05:22] <nikrud> ~install | pepsi there's some instructions here I think
[05:23] <FAJALOU> that's nice
[05:23] <nikrud> !install | pepsi
[05:23] <ubotu> pepsi: Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[05:23] <FAJALOU> google-fu?
[05:23] <bazhang> pepsi:  if your computer bios allows it yes
[05:23] <[HeMp]> TEW 443 PI  need help setting kismet
[05:23] <Zelta> FAJALOU: But how would I mount it while it is plugged in, not at startup?  Just so I know it works
[05:23] <nikrud> FAJALOU knowing what search terms to search for
[05:23] <KveldUlf> here we go again
[05:23] <rav> bazhang: sorry, I'm on my phone. I'm in 7.04. and I'm on a router that connects to a cable modem. I had ubuntu on old of and it worked fine.
[05:23] <bazhang> FAJALOU: best not to refer people to google; if you dont know others may thanks
[05:23] <Sefram> i need help with wpa_supplicant
[05:23] <alabamahit> bazhang: did you get the link? I was looking to that site looks good....Looks like you can edit the files for someone.
[05:24] <nikrud> FAJALOU but offering good search terms as a teaching tool is encouraged ;)
[05:24] <[HeMp]> Sefram: i need help setting kismet !!
[05:24] <Steven1> I need help with Cedega. But I seem to have shelled out money on something that does nothing whatsoever.
[05:24] <bazhang> alabamahit: did not see it; could you paste it here please?
[05:24] <mcquaid> i have a buddy who i was going to setup ubuntu for.  he got a new machine that runs vista.  it runs really slow as it only shipped with 512 megs
[05:24] <nikrud> Steven1 the cedega site has support forums for paying customers iirc
[05:24] <alabamahit> bazhang: http://paste.stgraber.org/2278
[05:25] <Sefram> HeMp: sorry I dint tried kismet yet
[05:25] <bazhang> alabamahit: thanks looking now
[05:25] <mcquaid> anyway, problem is, he only uses dialup.  i checked the ubuntu hardware compatibility and it only listed 1 modem
[05:25] <TheDarkBGM> hi every 1
[05:25] <Steven1> Oh ok. Cause the irc channels are dead for it.
[05:25] <Steven1> Thanks nikrud
[05:25] <Kartel_> does ubuntu support other amd proccesors other than  amd 64 ?
[05:25] <Zelta> can anything bad happen if I force mount?
[05:25] <FAJALOU> i would think so
[05:25] <Zelta> I mean, probably there are bad things that COULD happen, but could anything happen realistically?
[05:25] <alabamahit> bazhang: Do you have to say the persons name with a : to highliht that post or just say there name in what you type. xChat is wht I'm using.
[05:25] <mcquaid> i know softmodems uses proprietary stuff, but i thought things must have settled by now
[05:25] <Steven1> Also nikrud. Is Wine-doors the same as Cedega or is it a different program altogether?
[05:25] <mcquaid> i mean, how much can softmodems really be changing at this point?
[05:26] <Sefram> HeMp: why not use airodump-ng?
[05:26] <nikrud> mcquaid he should get a hardware modem with a uart chip, and hook it up to a serial port. Only really easy way to do do dialup in linux.
[05:26] <mcquaid> anyway i saw there are those commercial drivers. is that the only option?
[05:26] <nikrud> Steven1 different I think, but don't take me as a wine expert. I think wine is a cheat
[05:26] <Jordan_U> Steven1, Different program ( though forked from wine a long time ago Cediga is not wine )
[05:26] <Zelta> plus, Cedega costs money D:
[05:26] <mcquaid> nikrud, i saw that listed, i doubt he'll buy a modem for linux.  new users don't understand that they can't use their existing hardware
[05:26] <TheDarkBGM> any 1 here fun f@h on ubuntu cause i need help running it
[05:27] <Sefram> ubotu: wpa_supplicant pid
[05:27] <mcquaid> anyway, doesn't ndiswrapper use the binary drivers to make wireless nics work?  couldn't the same thing be applied to modems?
[05:27] <Steven1> That wasn't the question though Jordan_U. I was asking if Cadega and Wine-doors are the same prog. Not wine.
[05:27] <mcquaid> meaning windows binary drivers
[05:27] <nikrud> mcquaid some software modems do work, you can go to  linmodems.org for the latest info
[05:27] <rav> bahang: I'm on 7.04 and I have a router with cable modem. my old pc worked with my Internet.
[05:27] <mcquaid> linmodems sells their drivers
[05:27] <Zelta> Stephen1: No, they are not the same
[05:27] <Steven1> Ok thanks
[05:28] <rav> bazhang*
[05:28] <Jordan_U> Steven1, I know, and I was saying that they are not, but because wine-doors uses wine they are very similar and share some code
[05:28] <Zelta> Steven1: Wine-Doors is to be used in conjunction with WINE
[05:28] <Sefram> ubotu: where can i find wpa_supplicant start script?
[05:28] <bazhang> alabamahit: you can usually just type three or four letters then hit tab to complete their name like I do alab <tab> for your name and you can see the highlight--you say the res is really low on that monitor--how did you install the drivers and perhaps you might want to try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg the horizsync and vertrefresh seem a bit on the low side
[05:28] <nikrud> mcquaid I think you're thinking of a different group. conexant sells their drivers, but you can get a free one that works up to 14.4 I think
[05:28] <Zelta> Steven1: It is basically a package management system for Windows Apps insatlled in WINE
[05:28] <sjovan> okay... where is this? Go to the Run dialog in Gnome
[05:29] <Steven1> sjovan: Alt+F2
[05:29] <Sefram> ubotu:wpa_supplicant
[05:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wpa_supplicant - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:29] <sjovan> Steven1: thanks
[05:29] <IcemanV9> Sefram: in the /etc directory
[05:29] <bazhang> rav: any reason not to try out gutsy livecd and see if that catches your ethernet? also could you pastebin your sources.list
[05:29] <Steven1> Your welcome
[05:29] <Riekal> alright:)
[05:30] <sjovan> awsome! anda a Fish: Go to the Run dialog in Gnome and type "free the fish.” Click the Run button
[05:30] <mcquaid> ah well.  it's shame, lots of us are on highspeed but there is probably a good chunk of people on dialup that can't use linux
[05:30] <tocmo0nlord> what is a good game to play here ?
[05:30] <Sefram> IcemanV9 : yes i know but i need to manage the pid files for wpa_supplicant from inside my shell script. Do you have any ideas how to do that?
[05:30] <tocmo0nlord> im seriously bored of tron
[05:30] <nikrud> mcquaid I lived on dialup for a long time, but I did buy a hardware modem ;)
[05:31] <xb3rt> tocmo0nlord: do you play alien arena 08
[05:31] <Riekal> lol
[05:31] <Riekal> wtf is my IRC window resizing on its own?
[05:31] <bazhang> tocmo0nlord: that is offtopic here--check the ubuntuforums gaming section thanks
[05:31] <mcquaid> nikrud, maybe i'm mistaken i'll check linmodems again, but i don't see anywhere what modems are supported and what drivers are avail.  there is a list but the link is dead
[05:31] <mcquaid> nikrud, yes good old hardware isa modems
[05:31] <Zelta> Where can I get a list of obotu commands to be used with the preceding "!"?
[05:31] <alteregoa> yeah
[05:31] <alteregoa> i think it supports power pc
[05:31] <IcemanV9> Sefram: pgrep wpa ?
[05:31] <Zelta> !help
[05:31] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:32] <bazhang> Zelta: you can /msg ubotu in a private message or go to his home ;]
[05:32] <tocmo0nlord> whoa
[05:32] <alteregoa> but if you need some weird hardware like mipsel or mips, try debian
[05:32] <Zelta> Thanks
[05:32] <tocmo0nlord> a game for linux thats 160mb!!!
[05:32] <tocmo0nlord> thats crazy
[05:32] <alabamahit> bazhang: Um...I installed it orgianally with the install of ubuntu a window opened on first boot letting me enable it....Then oiut fo now where it started doing that weird stuff. Its like the refresh rate is wrong...the screen is wiggling (jumping)
[05:32] <alteregoa> only 160mb
[05:32] <Steven1> Wow that was simple enough. I can't believe I didn't get it sooner. It was just 'gksudo cedega' lol
[05:32] <bazhang> offtopic alteregoa
[05:33] <alteregoa> i used judo or taek
[05:33] <dreamnid>   
[05:34] <bazhang> alteregoa: please read /topic thanks
[05:34] <Sefram> IcemanV9: i need the pid of the process for a specific interface, pidof or pgrep only gives me pids of all running processes...
[05:34] <Steven1> Well thanks guys. I'm gonna logout now so I can conserve resources.
[05:34] <tocmo0nlord> whats the maximum speed supported for pppod and evdo ?
[05:34] <z987k> anyone know of a free fat32 recovery tool?
[05:35] <Riekal> z987k recovery of what?
[05:35] <tocmo0nlord> i put 1000000 but it says its not supported on the logs
[05:35] <z987k> a file that was deleted
[05:35] <IcemanV9> Sefram: ah. well. check /var/run directory
[05:35] <Sefram> IcemanV9: When i start something from within a shell script: is there a way to get the pid of this child process?
[05:35] <Riekal> z987k sec PM
[05:35] <FAJALOU> z987k, tried trash bin?
[05:35] <bastid_raZor> Sefram; ps aux|grep something
[05:35] <z987k> yeah... it's a flash drive
[05:36] <Riekal> oh hell lol
[05:36] <Riekal> well
[05:36] <Riekal> sec
[05:36] <z987k> should work the same though right?
[05:36] <Sefram> IcemanV9: there is ./wpa_supplicant/eth1 but no pid files
[05:36] <sjovan> haahaha. sudo apt-get moo
[05:37] <IcemanV9> Sefram: dhclient.eth1.pid
[05:37] <Riekal> well i cant say that
[05:38] <Sefram> IcemanV9: yes but that is not wpa_supplicant ?
[05:38] <kikr> Hi, how can I flush the dns?
[05:38] <Riekal> most recovery tools that i know will recovery from FAT FAT32 NTFS and EXT2
[05:38] <z987k> Riekal: it hasn't been written to since and hasn't been unplugged yet
[05:38] <alabamahit> bazhang: I did that command...it would appear that it didn't do anything
[05:38] <bazhang> alabamahit: with a restart?
[05:38] <alabamahit> oh
[05:38] <alabamahit> brb
[05:38] <alabamahit> sorry
[05:38] <z987k> Riekal: got a name of a program I can look at?
[05:39] <bastid_raZor> sjovan; how do you stop the fish from coming back?
[05:40] <sjovan> bastid_raZor: i haven't figured that part out yet :P i'm going to ps aux | grep <--- to finde out. btw, that's a easter egg from gnome :)
[05:40] <bastid_raZor> sjovan; i tried finding it that way.. no joy   :\
[05:41] <interfear> is there a release date in April for 8.04?
[05:41] <jamessfoster> interfear, April 24.
[05:41] <Gilou> 24 iirc
[05:41] <interfear> ok
[05:41] <interfear> thanks
[05:41] <IcemanV9> Sefram: wpa_supplicant is with eth1 ... i don't know what more do you want?
[05:41] <alan_m> 21 days left, can you handle waiting that long interfear?
[05:42] <interfear> alan_m: no not really
[05:42] <sjovan> bastid_raZor: yeah, that didn't help much. if you right click it, then it moves off the screen fast at least :P
[05:42] <alan_m> interfear, how long have you been using ubuntu?
[05:42] <Juzzy`> interfear so just use your sources.list to stay on the bleeding edge :P
[05:43] <Juzzy`> then you'll be up to date when the day comes anywy
[05:43] <sjovan> or left click it... just depends what way you want it to go
[05:43] <alan_m> Juzzy`: i was gonna suggest a beta if he was a old timer to ubuntu,  but yeah that works too......ok hardy discussion stops :)
[05:43] <interfear> I'm just pissed because something has been going really bad with my 7.04 install.. keeps freezing up in X, my mouse/music keeps skipping.. never had these probs before dunno whats going on
[05:43] <sjovan> oh, if you go to help ---> about in utorrent then if you push the button "t", then you can play tetris :)
[05:43] <Flannel> interfear: Try upgrading to 7.10
[05:44] <Sefram> IcemanV9: I need the pid of the process wpa_supplicant for eth1
[05:44] <interfear> I meant 7.10
[05:44] <interfear> sorry
[05:44] <Juzzy`> sjovan yeah knew that :P
[05:44] <alabamahit> bazhang: No didn't work :(
[05:44] <sjovan> bastid_raZor: left click it, and it goes away :)
[05:44] <sjovan> bastid_raZor: doh! nwm...
[05:45] <donkey7186> I have a question I am using rythym box to play radio on it i try to play the radio station from this website http://www.wild955.com/cc-common/hdradio/  ...... and it says that i do not have the right plugins. what do i do so i can play it
[05:45] <Riekal> z987k you there?
[05:45] <Adantan_Alex> donkey7186: did it say what to download?
[05:45] <z987k> Riekal: yeah
[05:45] <donkey7186> nope
[05:45] <sjovan> any one knows how to get rid of that stupide fish? curse the gnome team :P
[05:45] <bastid_raZor> sjovan; heh, ahh i'll let the fish swim free .. it'll be funny listening to the wife ask about it.
[05:45] <Riekal> i am PMing you
[05:45] <sjovan> bastid_raZor: hehe
[05:46] <donkey7186> adantan_alex it just says cannot start playback
[05:46] <Adantan_Alex> donkey7186: google download plug ins for what ever radio station ur using
[05:46] <Riekal> donkey7186 what kind of file is it?
[05:46] <bastid_raZor> sjovan; i tried alt + f2 kill the fish .. that didn't work
[05:46] <Adantan_Alex> !plugin
[05:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about plugin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:46] <interfear> What version of ubuntu would someone download if they have a Core 2 Duo.. since core2's are 64bit?
[05:46] <donkey7186> riekal how do i know what kind of file it is?
[05:46] <sjovan> Star Wars Game: Create a new spreadsheet in the OpenOffice.org Calc. Type "=game()" intoa cell and validate it by pressing Enter. The cell will display, "Say what?" to which your typing finger will reply “=GAME("StarWars")." A new window will open with a little game called Star Wars.
[05:46] <Adantan_Alex> !dual boot mabye this will help me
[05:46] <Zelta> interfear: Do you want a 64-bit OS?
[05:46] <alabamahit> bazhang: I just tested somethign...Its defently somethign to do with the kind of monitor.
[05:46] <Zelta> You can use a 32-bit OS on a 64-bit capable processor.
[05:46] <z987k> Riekal: like your pming me now?
[05:46] <interfear> Zelta: yes my friend wants 64bit ubuntu for his core 2 duo
[05:46] <Zelta> In fact, it is recommended, as 64-bit OS' have a lot of problems
[05:47] <donkey7186> this is the website  http://www.wild955.com/cc-common/hdradio/
[05:47] <Sefram> IcemanV9: I am starting wpa_supplicant from inside my WLAN start script and only want to kill the wpa_supplicant process i started here when i run my script with a shutdown wlan command later.
[05:47] <Riekal> donkey7186, i think i misunderstood. you are trying to stream internet radio?
[05:47] <Zelta> interfear: Download the x86-64 build then
[05:47] <alabamahit> bazhang: I'm using a TV. LCD flat screen..I just pluged in another monitor and that one worked fine.
[05:47] <alan_m> Adantan_Alex: hey buddy! :)
[05:47] <donkey7186> yes stream
[05:47] <Riekal> z987k yes i am
[05:47] <bazhang> alabamahit: what did you discover?
[05:47] <Riekal> PM me
[05:47] <donkey7186> riekal yes stream
[05:47] <bazhang> alabamahit: aha
[05:47] <Riekal> donkey7186 PM me
[05:47] <mynyml> whenever i send my screen output to the tv (through s-video) for a second time, the tv image becomes black and white - anyone has an idea how that can be fixed?
[05:47] <z987k> Riekal: wtf, it's not showing up
[05:47] <IcemanV9> Sefram: where do you see that in your top or htop?? there are TWO pid's for wpa & eth1, but they are working together.
[05:47] <bazhang> rav you still around?
[05:47] <alabamahit> bazhang: What is weird is last night for hours when I first started on linux it was fine
[05:48] <alabamahit> bazhang: Just ealier it messed up like this...really to me makes no since.
[05:48] <bazhang> alabamahit: hmm; do you recall what changed it?
[05:48] <IcemanV9> Sefram: well, to find out might be the best is to playing around with it 'til you get what you want.
[05:48] <z987k> Riekal: I pmed you, did it show up?
[05:48] <alabamahit> bazhang: It was a fresh install
[05:48] <bastid_raZor> sjovan; if you figure out how to kill the fish leave me a PM.. i'd hate to restart X just to kill the fish
[05:48] <Adantan_Alex> !caps
[05:48] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[05:48] <Riekal> donkey7186 do you see my typing in the PM?
[05:48] <Riekal> z987k no :(
[05:48] <donkey7186> riekal no i do not
[05:48] <Riekal> lol
[05:49] <Riekal> wtf
[05:49] <Riekal> hmm
[05:49] <Adantan_Alex> !dual boot
[05:49] <bastid_raZor> bedtime:||:
[05:49] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[05:49] <bazhang> Adantan_Alex: you can /msg ubotu for fun if you wish thanks
[05:49] <z987k> that's wierd
[05:49] <donkey7186> my aim is diesel7186
[05:49] <Riekal> kk
[05:49] <Adantan_Alex> oh yeah
[05:49] <Adantan_Alex> :P
[05:49] <alabamahit> bazhang: I ran the software update and then it messed up.
[05:49] <z987k> Riekal: aim is the same as my s/n here
[05:49] <sjovan> bastid_raZor: i'll guess i could send a e-mail to the gnome team and put up a forumpost :)
[05:49] <alabamahit> bazhang: that was the only thing i can think of.
[05:50] <Adantan_Alex> wow alot of bans....
[05:50] <Sefram> IcemanV9: `ps -A | grep wpa_supplicant` is different to `ps -A | grep dhclient`
[05:50] <bazhang> alabamahit: what res does your card support as opposed to your lcd tv?
[05:50] <alabamahit> bazhang: Yeah last night on linux was fine...and I have never had a problem on windows.
[05:51] <alabamahit> oh what resolution
[05:51] <alabamahit> bazhang: I dont know what resolution...i have always used 1024
[05:52] <Sefram> IcemanV9: `ps -aux | grep "wpa_supplicant start arguments"` or sth like that would do the job, but ps -aux is not available at my target platform...
[05:52] <alabamahit> bazhang: Do you think an older version of ubunut would be better? im useing 7.10
[05:53] <Adantan_Alex> `ok
[05:53] <Adantan_Alex> ok*
[05:54] <bazhang> Adantan_Alex: please join #ubuntu-offtopic for idle chit-chat thanks
[05:54] <krammer_> how can I stop from getting updates of all the languages?
[05:54] <bazhang> alabamahit: extremely doubtful that would do it
[05:55] <Adantan_Alex> what? no im working on ubuntu
[05:55] <alabamahit> bazhang: Fresh start? maybe?
[05:55] <alabamahit> bazhang: Maybe i messed somethign up on install?
[05:55] <Adantan_Alex> i got problems too
[05:55] <Adantan_Alex> when my install is complete
[05:55] <mynyml> whenever i send my screen output to the tv (through s-video) for a second time, the tv image becomes black and white - anyone has an idea how that can be fixed?
[05:56] <Adantan_Alex> it stops
[05:56] <bazhang> alabamahit: try the livecd and see if that catches it; cant imagine what you could have done as long as you did not use envy or automatix which both can breakage
[05:57] <bazhang> Adantan_Alex: please describe your issue with some precision and if someone knows they will help
[05:57] <alabamahit> bazhang: what is envy or automatiz?
[05:57] <bazhang> alabamahit: system-breakers
[05:57] <drewby> Hello, I am having immense trouble getting the MIME type video/divx added to firefox.  Firefox is set up to use mplayer on my machine.
[05:58] <sayap_ikarus> a
[05:58] <alabamahit> bazhang: Linux is weird, lol...losts different to me reminds me of a control panel to a webiste, lol
[05:58] <alabamahit> i will try my livecd be right back.
[05:58] <IcemanV9> Sefram: same as pgrep wpa_supplicant & pgrep dhclient; yes, wpa is before dhclient. i don't know anymore than that to help you to achieve what you want.
[05:58] <Lil> a
[05:58] <Lil> sdd
[05:58] <Lil> sad
[05:58] <Lil> woii
[05:58] <Lil> sepi
[05:58] <FloodBot1> Lil: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:59] <nikrud> Lil please don't dothat
[05:59] <bazhang> Lil: please stop now
[05:59] <ComputerPassion> Anyone mind helping me. I have been trying to find a way using smb to set specific user permissions on specific folders does anyone know how to do that?
[05:59]  * nikrud hides from bazhang's pointy stick
[05:59] <Adantan_Alex> ok so when my installation of ubuntu gets to 100 percent
[05:59] <Adantan_Alex> it doesnt do anything soz for the enter
[06:00] <nikrud> Adantan_Alex you'd better clear some space before you do that
[06:00] <Adantan_Alex> what? i got 20 gigabytes
[06:00] <nikrud> Adantan_Alex ah, misunderstood
[06:00] <nikrud> Adantan_Alex read that as you're 20gb getting full from use
[06:00] <Adantan_Alex> then when i restart it sais filed to boot Oprating System
[06:00] <drewby> How can I get I get firefox to use mplayer to handle embeds of type video/divx
[06:01] <nikrud> drewby install mozilla-mplayer , and remove totem-mozilla
[06:01] <Adantan_Alex> how ever i did fix that.... twice i also checked discs and no problems
[06:01] <Sefram> IcemanV9: thx anyways...
[06:01] <bazhang> Adantan_Alex: try entering the grub menu
[06:01] <ComputerPassion> anyone any good with smb?
[06:01] <nikrud> Adantan_Alex it got to the point opening the cd drive and saying to remove the disk and reboot?
[06:01] <drewby> nikrud: I'm using mozilla-mplayer.
[06:02] <nikrud> drewby did you remove totem-mozilla?
[06:02] <Adantan_Alex> the second time....
[06:02] <drewby> yes
[06:02] <amenado> gnome-appearance-properties on mine just freezes, any config files or debug mode where it can dump to log files?
[06:02] <Adantan_Alex> first time i tried the alternate CD
[06:02] <nikrud> drewby Works for Me™, every time
[06:02] <Adantan_Alex> the second time i tried the live CD
[06:02] <n3urogod> anyone here know about ppp over ssh?
[06:02] <Adantan_Alex> how ever i did fix that.... twice i also checked discs and no <Adantan_Alex> no problems
[06:02] <nikrud> n3urogod now that is one strange question
[06:03] <amenado> ComputerPassion-> have you tried to read  up a lil bit on samba or tutorials on samba?
[06:03] <n3urogod> nikki8965, why do you say that
[06:03] <n3urogod> oops
[06:03] <n3urogod> nikrud, why do you say that?
[06:03] <Adantan_Alex> whos helping me? lol
[06:03] <nikrud> n3urogod since you already have a net connection in order to use ssh?
[06:03] <aolaus> hi, I have a dual monitor problem
[06:03] <nikrud> s/in order to/since you/
[06:03] <n3urogod> nikrud, Im talking about ppp-ssh tunneling
[06:03] <nikki8965> it's fine.  I forgot I was in here
[06:03] <aolaus> my second monitor is supposed to run at 1440 x 900
[06:03] <drewby> nikrud: Mplayer will play divx files when they're presented with a mime type of mp4, but firefox doesn't even have an entry in about:plugins for video/divx
[06:04] <aolaus> but only runs at 1152 x 864
[06:04] <Adantan_Alex> omg i need help....
[06:04] <aolaus> can someone help me?
[06:04] <ComputerPassion> amenado yes but i can't seem to find anything where you can say like user a and user b can have access to folder apple
[06:04] <ComputerPassion> how do you whipser i can't remember
[06:04] <amenado> n3urogod-> you proly want something like a secure tunnelling?
[06:05] <taime1> drewby: you need to enable, within firefox, the ability to change how it handles mimetypes
[06:05] <etfb> I'm sure this is dead obvious, but I'm drawing a blank: how do I delete all files matching a particular wildcard mask from the all subdirectories of a particular directory?  In MSDOS it's DEL /S *.FOO but what is it in bash?
[06:05] <amenado> ComputerPassion-> but that is not samba,  folder access is a security feature of a filesystem
[06:05] <drewby> taime1: thank you, could you perhaps give me just a bit more direction on how to do that?
[06:05] <Adantan_Alex> i need help i tried installing ubuntu but when the installation gets to 100 percent it stops i checked the disc and it is good
[06:05] <n3urogod> amenado, yeah, I have followed the tutorial on this page http://www.jfranken.de/homepages/johannes/vortraege/ssh2_inhalt.en.html....but I am getting "modem hangup" "connection terminated" when I try and connect it
[06:05] <nikrud> bazhang ever had one of those days when nearly every time you swing, you miss?
[06:05] <Adantan_Alex> i need help i tried installing ubuntu but when the installation gets to 100 percent it stops i checked the disc and it is goodi need help i tried installing ubuntu but when the installation gets to 100 percent it stops i checked the disc and it is goodi need help i tried installing ubuntu but when the installation gets to 100 percent it stops i checked the disc and it is goodi need help i tried installing ubuntu but when th
[06:05] <Adantan_Alex> i need help i tried installing ubuntu but when the installation gets to 100 percent it stops i checked the disc and it is goodi need help i tried installing ubuntu but when the installation gets to 100 percent it stops i checked the disc and it is goodi need help i tried installing ubuntu but when the installation gets to 100 percent it stops i checked the disc and it is goodi need help i tried installing ubuntu but when th
[06:05] <Adantan_Alex> i need help i tried installing ubuntu but when the installation gets to 100 percent it stops i checked the disc and it is goodi need help i tried installing ubuntu but when the installation gets to 100 percent it stops i checked the disc and it is goodi need help i tried installing ubuntu but when the installation gets to 100 percent it stops i checked the disc and it is goodi need help i tried installing ubuntu but when th
[06:05] <ComputerPassion> well smb allows you to share i thought it would let you set access like that too?
[06:06] <bazhang> nikrud: aye most days ;]
[06:06] <taime1> drewby: yeah, you need to type in about:config in the adress bar.. but i forget what the otpion is... and there are LOTS of them.. lemme see if i can find it
[06:06] <amenado> ComputerPassion-> better read up on that samba again,
[06:06] <ComputerPassion> well if smb doesn't do that when i go to permissions it doesn't let me change anything
[06:07] <tifine> is there any software similar or same vnc for ubuntu
[06:07] <alteregoa> strange
[06:07] <alteregoa> yeah
[06:07] <ComputerPassion> i think i know whats going on... its a windows drive... only root can change permissions
[06:07] <ComputerPassion> on them
[06:08] <ComputerPassion> and i could just set up user groups for each share type?
[06:08] <kindofabuzz> tifine: what's wrong with vnc?
[06:08] <etfb> ... Never mind, worked it out: find DIRECTORY -name MASK -delete
[06:08] <tifine> kindofabuzz, how to get it on ubuntu
[06:08] <ComputerPassion> <--- using vnc (ubuntu runs on my server)
[06:09] <kindofabuzz> tifine: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122402
[06:09] <taime1> drewby:  you still there?
[06:09] <drewby> taime1: yessir
[06:09] <drewby> *or ma'am
[06:09] <ygor_abreu> What does the command -y before apt-get install does?
[06:10] <alan_m> it means default answer is yes ygor_abreu
[06:10] <alan_m> to any question that is a yes or no question
[06:10] <alteregoa> vinagre
[06:10] <alteregoa> vinagre is something like vnc
[06:10] <ygor_abreu> alan_m:so..doesnt matter write that down or not right?
[06:10] <bazhang> going to try kde4 back soon ;]
[06:11] <taime1> drewby: okay, its either "plugin override internal types" or "plugin expose full path"   its about 2/3 the way down the list  and you need to double click it to toggle it to "true"
[06:11] <alabamahit> what is kde4?
[06:11] <alan_m> ygor_abreu: hang on, you said -y BEFORE apt-get install?
[06:11] <ygor_abreu> alan_m:thats right..
[06:12] <ygor_abreu> alan_m:like: apt-get install -y virtualbox
[06:12] <taime1> anyone know "Terminal Server Client" is? i mean, is that the name of that package? or is it something else?
[06:12] <kindofabuzz> apt-get --help
[06:12] <n3urogod> ygor_abreu, that would be -y AFTER apt-get install
[06:12] <drewby> taime1: thanks
[06:12] <alan_m> ok, that means when it asks you are you sure you wish to install it it will answer the question with yes, and go on installing it without asking you.
[06:12] <kindofabuzz> taime1: i think that's tightvnc
[06:12] <alan_m> any other questions ygor_abreu
[06:13] <ygor_abreu> alan_m: ahh ok..got it..well nothing else mate..thx!
[06:13] <Adantan_Alex> alan.... hey m8
[06:13] <taime1> kindofabuzz:  its not. in fact, i just gave up on tightvnc.. its so slow compared to the others such as x11vnc and the terminal server client.. thats why i was wondering what terminal server client was.. its smokin fast
[06:13] <kindofabuzz> ygor_abreu: you can find options for commands by putting --help after them
[06:13] <alabamahit> what is kde4?
[06:14] <taime1> alabamahit: are you serious? if you are.. then google it
[06:14] <Adantan_Alex> i need help i tried installing ubuntu but when the installation gets to 100 percent it stops i checked the disc and it is good
[06:14] <kindofabuzz> taime1: it may just be the graphical part of vncclient
[06:14] <mynyml> how can i enable a remote control?
[06:14] <ygor_abreu> kindofabuzz:thanks!
[06:14] <alabamahit> taime1: i just started linux lastnight...
[06:14] <taime1> kindofabuzz: vncclient is its own package? like bittorrent is the name of a bittorrent client?
[06:14] <kindofabuzz> alabamahit: kde is another window manager
[06:15] <kindofabuzz> taime1: yes
[06:15] <taime1> alabamahit: sorry guy.  its a desktop environment like gnome (the one ubuntu uses by default)
[06:15] <taime1> kindofabuzz: cool beans man, thanks
[06:15] <Adantan_Alex> oh well i will just stick with windows....
[06:15] <alabamahit> oh is there another channel to talk in...i know this is ment to be a help channel.
[06:15] <kindofabuzz> taime1: xvnc4viewer
[06:16] <kindofabuzz> maybe
[06:16] <taime1> Adantan_Alex: have you rebooted?
[06:16] <magicsword> hello all....need steps to install java...can anyone direct me ?
[06:16] <Adantan_Alex> i tried this with alternate CD and live CD
[06:16] <taime1> kindofabuzz: haha, this is what i get for trying to satisfy my curiosity
[06:16] <Adantan_Alex> checked the discs as well and no problems
[06:16] <taime1> magicsword: install jre
[06:17] <n3urogod> Adantan_Alex, you might get some more help if you actually provide some info
[06:17] <Adantan_Alex> thats the thing i dont know what to put
[06:17] <magicsword> ok...I am nubbie can you give more info
[06:17] <taime1> kindofabuzz: alls i know, is i cannot BELIEVE how slow tight is compared to all others.. i always liked it before...  but it gets a big thumbs down as client and server
[06:18] <Adantan_Alex> oh there was more
[06:18] <Adantan_Alex> when i restarted it said failed to boot Operating System but i fixed that
[06:18] <n3urogod> Adantan_Alex, what does "stop" mean....is it errroring or just doing nothing...is it totally crashed (num lock wont work or turn off) or it just doesn't *seem* to be progressing
[06:18] <Adantan_Alex> just stayed at 100 %
[06:18] <jon_high9000> anybody have anybody have any problems ffmpeg regarding the conversion of .flv to .mpg?
[06:18] <n3urogod> Adantan_Alex, and how long did you leave it for?
[06:18] <taime1> magicsword: yes, System>Administration>Synaptic Package Manager.  then search for jre, then the rest is kinda self explanatory
[06:19] <Adantan_Alex> probbly 30 minutes on 100 percent
[06:19] <alabamahit> taime1: so its kinda just like ubuntu?
[06:19] <n3urogod> Adantan_Alex, can you swap to a second console and see if it is actually doing something?
[06:19] <taime1> alabamahit: join #hinkle
[06:19] <Adantan_Alex> what?
[06:20] <taime1> ill talk to you in there
[06:20] <kindofabuzz> alabamahit: ubuntu uses gnome, kubuntu uses kde, but you can put gnome or kde on anything
[06:20] <kindofabuzz> google it
[06:23] <kindofabuzz> netslpit or something, i see no one talking
[06:23] <Adantan_Alex> well no one can help me ^^
[06:25] <Jorda1> hay guys how do I set the root password through the command line im on ubuntu server 7.10 and im trying to use apt-get but i cant because im not root and I havent set a pass for it yet
[06:26] <amenado> !root | Jorda1
[06:26] <ubotu> Jorda1: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[06:26] <juan_> hi
[06:26] <happy-sufferer> how do i rename my iPod?
[06:26] <Jorda1> ummmm sudo is not working for me than
[06:27] <drewby> taime1: do I have to restart my computer after making changes in about:config, cause it doesn't seem to be doing anything
[06:27] <maek> try gksudo
[06:27] <happy-sufferer> i want to follow advice on http://lifehacker.com/375320/label-a-flash-drive-with-your-name-and-number
[06:27] <taime1> drewby, no
[06:27]  * drewby is frustrated.
[06:27]  * Adantan_Alex is cool
[06:27] <drewby> I added the line
[06:28] <maek> happy-sufferer, right click your iPod in Computer and Re-name ??
[06:28] <drewby> video/divx divx to ~/.mime.types
[06:28] <maek> in Nautilis
[06:28] <drewby> but firefox doesn't seem to pick up on that
[06:28] <happy-sufferer> maek:  can i do so in termnial?
[06:29] <maek> happy-sufferer, not sure try it graphically first
[06:31] <taime1> drewby:  you do prolly need to restart ff
[06:31] <drewby> taime1: no luck ><
[06:31] <taime1> drewby: weird...
[06:31] <riki> Hi, I have dual monitors and i am able to enable it using gksudo nvidia-settings, this allows me to do Twinview, How can i preform window managment? So that when i resize a window, it dosent span across 2 monitors
[06:32] <Jorda1> all right when I type in sudo apt-get install program it asks for my password as Jordan and not the root so whats happening ??  so i end up not having root access to files
[06:33] <amenado> Jorda1-> did you read the link?
[06:33] <taime1> Jorda1: no, you are working as root
[06:33] <juan_> Jorda1 type your own password
[06:34] <Jorda1> than y wont apt-get install program
[06:34] <taime1> Jorda1: sudo gives you root priveleges
[06:34] <goodhabit> Hello. I have changed my monitor from 4:3 to 16:10. How I can fix bootsplash? It looks stretched.
[06:34] <Jorda1> it says my password is is incorrect when i type it in
[06:34] <Zhongo> hola
[06:34] <goodhabit> Jorda1, so enter correct password :)
[06:34] <Adantan_Alex> jorda1: did you check for caps lock?
[06:34] <Daisuke_Ido> then you're typing it incorrectly -_-
[06:35] <alan_m> !sp | zhongo
[06:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:35] <Zhongo> hello
[06:35] <Adantan_Alex> hey alan
[06:35] <alan_m> oops, heh
[06:35] <maek> Jordal you have to make sure that your account has administrative privileges
[06:35] <alan_m> hello Zhongo :)
[06:35] <alan_m> hello adantan_alex
[06:35] <Zhongo> what is this? a ubuntu chat?
[06:35] <Adantan_Alex> and that your not trying to access someone elses computer....
[06:35] <juan_> Jorda1 maybe you dont have privileges to use sudp
[06:35] <Jorda1> all right ill try it again but Therese something els going on here
[06:35] <juan_> *sudo
[06:35] <maek> yeah Zhongo the official chat
[06:36] <alan_m> zhongo, its a support room for ubuntu
[06:36] <Zhongo> i'm i just installed ubuntu like half hour ago
[06:36] <captain> Hey guys, i just finished updating gutsy to heron, and now any sound that comes out of the speakers has an extreme amount of static in it... any ideas ?
[06:36] <alan_m> zhongo, awesome :)
[06:36] <Jorda1> how so how do I fix that : juan
[06:36] <goodhabit> captain, /join #ubuntu+1
[06:36] <taime1> whats with all the n00bs?????
[06:36] <captain> ok cool goodhabit
[06:36] <captain> thx
[06:36] <amenado> taime1-> were you ever a noob once?
[06:36] <Zhongo> i dont know how to install the webcam though.
[06:37] <taime1> amenado: not what i meant
[06:37] <Adantan_Alex> every one is a noob at one stage m8
[06:37] <Adantan_Alex> well
[06:37] <Adantan_Alex> mate
[06:37] <Adantan_Alex> then what do u mean?
[06:37] <Zhongo> -_-'
[06:37] <juan_> Jorda1 in the configuration look for Users and Groups
[06:37] <Optimus55> sup ppl
[06:37] <maek> captain, Try to change the sound driver
[06:37] <taime1> amenado: i just meant there are a lot of new users
[06:38] <taime1> amenado: im still a n00b
[06:38] <Jorda1> ok thanks
[06:38] <amenado> taime1-> yes, and get used to it
[06:38] <taime1> amenado: stop being an ass
[06:38] <Zhongo> cya guys
[06:38] <Jorda1> lol you know im on the server its all text
[06:38] <amenado> taime1-> thats not nice to say
[06:38] <zcat[1]> .. n00buntu.. the distro for non-geeks
[06:39] <Adantan_Alex> !language | taime1
[06:39] <ubotu> taime1: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[06:39] <taime1> @$$
[06:39] <maek> Jorda1 then click on your user then Properties then User Privileges then check "Administer the system"
[06:39] <Adantan_Alex> lol....
[06:40] <Adantan_Alex> ok silence hey? i think i killed the room lol
[06:41] <zcat[1]> I am concerned about hardy's release date though... it seems a little flakey for something that's due to be released in three weeks
[06:41] <taime1> Adantan_Alex: its okay man, some people just speak before they think. he doesnt scare me with his attitude
[06:41] <CyberCod> they should be putting out release candidates left and right
[06:41] <Adantan_Alex> taime1: who speaks before they think?
[06:41] <maek> George Bush
[06:41] <Adantan_Alex> lol....
[06:41] <zcat[1]> !ot :)
[06:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ot :) - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:41] <taime1> Adantan_Alex: a lot of people in this channel
[06:41] <Adantan_Alex> !os
[06:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about os - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:41] <cjzjm100> Hi,I am using ubuntu 7.10,i want to update to 8.04.I plan to update directly,not a re-installation,any problem?
[06:42] <maek> and Steve Ballmer
[06:42] <zcat[1]> no !ot ?!!
[06:42] <Adantan_Alex> wtf!? Operating System
[06:42] <nikrud> !coc | taime1
[06:42] <ubotu> taime1: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[06:42] <Adantan_Alex> ....
[06:42] <zcat[1]> Oh...
[06:42] <zcat[1]> !ot
[06:42] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:42] <CyberCod> cjzjm100: shouldn't be
[06:42] <maek> cjzjm100, wait for the stable release of Hardy
[06:42] <taime1> people in this channel only speak through ubotu
[06:42] <taime1> its pathetic
[06:42] <nikrud> taime1 last warning
[06:42] <CyberCod> though I must say that going from 7.04 to 7.10 killed my wireless drivers
[06:42] <taime1> at least you spoke directly to me this time
[06:42] <Daisuke_Ido> because we run into a lot like you, so the canned responses are useful :)
[06:42] <Adantan_Alex> taime1: if you dont like it then leave
[06:43] <zcat[1]> taime1: not really, it saves a lot of time dealing with the same old faq's
[06:43] <taime1> yeah, thats true
[06:43] <nikrud> taime1 mainly because I have little time for this, and you need to read that I think
[06:43] <maek> 7.10 was an experimental release of Ubuntu
[06:43] <taime1> im not the one asking questions
[06:43] <CyberCod> yeah, true
[06:43] <taime1> but thanks for wasting your time on me
[06:44] <zcat[1]> Well, I just hope hardy hardens up soon.. major breakage yesterday!!
[06:44] <nikrud> taime1 I'm not wasting my time on you, I'm attempting to maintain a little civility in the channel. You can assist, or find somewhere else to call someone an ass
[06:44] <CyberCod> that bad eh?
[06:44] <taime1> lottai was calling it like it is.. and you are wasting your time.. like right now
[06:44] <zcat[1]> Yeah, half of OOo and all the restricted drivers in the latest kernel upgrade
[06:44] <taime1> typo**
[06:45] <CyberCod> ouch
[06:45] <CyberCod> any word as to improvements to wireless?
[06:45] <maek> yeah in Hardy CyberCod
[06:45] <zcat[1]> Oh yeah.. and my wireless hasn't worked since I upgraded :) but I blame broadcom, they always sucked anyhow
[06:45] <amenado> CyberCod-> what chip does your wifi have?
[06:45] <Daisuke_Ido> CyberCod, just from personal experience, wireless dies on suspend/resume
[06:46] <maek> just use Ethernet in the mean time
[06:46] <CyberCod> five different ones, actually
[06:46] <CyberCod> atheros, broadcom mostly
[06:46] <skyhook> what does the command scollkeeper-up do?
[06:46] <zcat[1]> I have a rt2400 card and a USB one (can't recall what chipset) so I am not short of options anyhow
[06:46] <Daisuke_Ido> incredibly painful when trying to get online quickly at school to grab a file from home
[06:46] <skyhook> and why is it using 90% of my processor?
[06:46] <zcat[1]> cat's are going nuts.. must be a storm on the way
[06:47] <CyberCod> skyhook  did you try  --help  ?
[06:47] <andb> I've often wondered the same, its obviously a house-keeping task
[06:47] <amenado> CyberCod-> choose atheros, i had no luck yet with broacom
[06:47] <bazhang> skyhook: open a terminal and type top
[06:47] <maek> theres no command button on normal keyboards
[06:47] <Adantan_Alex> skyhook: did you check if your running anything?
[06:47] <andb> skyhook: it will quit in 4-5 minutes.
[06:47] <CyberCod> I got broadcom working ok via ndiswrapper, but I prefer not to go that route if possible
[06:47] <cjzjm100> yes,i will wait for the stable one!I just want to know can i update directly,not doing the re-installation! I heard that it will lead some problem.
[06:48] <zcat[1]> I hate ndis.. I used to have the card working with bcm43xx-fwcutter but no luck this time
[06:48] <amenado> CyberCod-> it maybe the only choice you got with broadcom chips..
[06:48] <Viktor> Hey i have a PCI-E HD 2600 XT Radeon, how do i get the visual effects to work? i used envy to install the ati driver, but everytime i click on "normal visual effects" it says the composite extension is not enabled, but i just enabled it in xorg.conf, how do i do this?
[06:48] <andb> skyhookhttp://sourceforge.net/projects/scrollkeeper
[06:48] <Viktor> driving me nuts
[06:48] <skyhook> andb: thanks
[06:48] <maek> you can upgrade yes cjzjm100 .... but no one can guarantee that there will be no problems
[06:48] <andb> skyhook: its indexing the documents for the fast indexing.
[06:48] <CyberCod> cjzjm100: IMHO it is better to start with a fresh install, so keep it in mind if your upgrade process leaves your machine buggy... a fresh install might not have the same issues
[06:48] <zcat[1]> anyhow, I need to go burn an openSUSE and get familiar with it..  TTFN  BBL
[06:48] <MagoonD> is there such a thing as peer guardian ip blocker in windows for ubuntu?
[06:49] <andb> skyhook: can be disabled if you dont want it
[06:49] <amenado> zcat[1] try booting if off your hd, no need to burn
[06:49] <maek> Viktor that card SUCKS on Ubuntu I had it in my PC 2 weeks ago and the problems I have been getting is just ridiculous
[06:49] <z3ek> i was going to update from 7.10 to the beta
[06:49] <Ray_> Need Help on Totem. Totem is not playing Live mms streams. I'm using Hardy. Strangely in 7.10 totem is working correctly. Am I missing something?
[06:49] <obsidian> hahaa! The time has come to permanently erase my xp!!!
[06:49] <z3ek> but a fresh install is better  then ??
[06:50] <skyhook> andb: I was more just curious, it wasnt actually affecting my computers performance or anything
[06:50] <andb> MagoonD: yes.
[06:50] <Viktor> maek i know im pulling my hair out as we speak
[06:50] <MagoonD> andb what is it called
[06:50] <nikrud> Ray_ try #ubuntu+1 for hardy questions, they're handling it till release
[06:50] <Viktor> maek did you manage to get the visual effects working?
[06:50] <andb> MagoonD: peerguardian :) was originally linux. though be careful to make update scripts.
[06:50] <Viktor> cause i sure as hell cant :S
[06:50] <Ray_> nikrud : thanks
[06:50] <skyhook> andb: thanks for the answer
[06:50] <maek> Viktor, just take out the card and sell it and get a NVIDIA card (what I did)
[06:50] <MagoonD> :) andb sorry should have googled it first
[06:50] <andb> MagoonD: it has to dload and restart every night...
[06:51] <MagoonD> andb oh i see how come
[06:51] <andb> no problem..
[06:51] <maek> NVIDIA cards are a hell of a lot better in Linux than ATI cards
[06:51] <Viktor> not an option unfortunatly, im a student, and cant afford my food this week, so doing that would mean i have no computer to work with for my studys
[06:51] <Viktor> there must be a way around this
[06:51] <andb> peerguradan is a bit easier on windows, but if you put it on a servre and just leav it, it is great.
[06:51] <andb> I also do torrents with azureus on the server, but only command line interface.
[06:52] <maek> I got Visual effects working on that card Viktor but they were very slow and dodgy and Video playback SUCKED
[06:52] <Viktor> ok so now i know it can be done then, ill keep trying
[06:52] <MagoonD> thanks andb
[06:52] <maek> Try installing the very latest drivers for ATI cards in Envy Viktor
[06:53] <andb> MagoonD: glad to help
[06:53] <Viktor> ya just did, its still moaning about the composite extension, however i know for a fact i edited that section in xorg.conf
[06:53] <nikrud> !envy
[06:53] <ubotu> envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[06:54] <Viktor> im well aware of this, however ive exhausted all other options, leading me to use envy
[06:54] <nikrud> Viktor what video chip?
[06:54] <Viktor> HD2600 XT
[06:55] <maek> Viktor, what I did is buy a very cheap second hand 6600 GT and it worked a lot better than the 2600 XT
[06:55] <nikrud> Viktor  http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide is kinda involved, but works properly with gutsy
[06:55] <Viktor> yeah but that means i have to advertise to sell my current chip in order to buy a nvidia one, then pay for p&p, thats like all my food for next too weeks
[06:55] <maek> oh okay Viktor
[06:56] <maek> Try going to Restricted Drivers Manager and seeing if the card is enabled
[06:56] <Jackinloadup> anyone know the release date of 8.04 beta 2
[06:57] <maek> 25th of April
[06:57] <maek> oh oops beta 2
[06:57] <nikrud> maek his 2600 isn't supported by the _gutsy_ restricted driver ;)
[06:57] <maek> Is there going to be a Beta 2 ??
[06:57] <Jackinloadup> maek: idk i was liek isnt the final suppose to come out around then.. lol
[06:57] <maek> oh well that sucks
[06:58] <maek> Viktor, have you tried to install X server XGL ??
[06:58] <nikrud> maek there'll be a release candidate about a week before release at least. But ask more about hardy in #ubuntu+1
[06:58] <Viktor> i just did that
[06:58] <Viktor> i remember now that that's what usually got it working
[06:58] <Viktor> that is: sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl
[06:58] <maek> restart X Viktor
[06:58] <Viktor> ill try restart x now, brb
[06:58] <legolaswood> Hi there.
[06:59] <nickname0643> hello
[06:59] <nikrud> Viktor if you're using the latest from ati, you won't need/want xserver-xgl
[06:59] <legolaswood> How I can remove all sound related software and configuration from Linux?
[06:59] <Viktor> Success!
[07:00] <maek> Viktor dont speak too soon make sure when you enter text its not laggy
[07:00] <Viktor> thats all i needed after installing the ati driver, was to sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl, and change the composite extension
[07:00] <Viktor> its not laggy, im scrolling ff and its fine
[07:00] <legolaswood> I mean everything related to sound system. my sound system get crazy and it does not produce a useable sound from mp3 or movie files.
[07:00] <maek> Viktor, just check EVERYTHING is fine
[07:01] <EmperorLOLZORZ> uh
[07:01] <maek> X server XGL gave me a real headache because of the high CPU usage
[07:01] <EmperorLOLZORZ> a window is frozen
[07:02] <Viktor> yeah just found a little problem just then
[07:02] <nikrud> couldn't use compiz with xserver-xgl for that reason. Plus, the ati driver in gutsy doesn't permit suspend ;)
[07:02] <EmperorLOLZORZ> help
[07:02] <maek> what is it ??
[07:02] <Viktor> i tried typing into terminal "glxgears"
[07:02] <nikrud> X crash!
[07:02] <Viktor> and got a cream skin of death - sort of
[07:02] <Viktor> ya
[07:02] <Viktor> x crash
[07:02] <legolaswood> Any comment for me? I want to remove all sound related packages and configuration.
[07:02] <maek> nah do everything via compiz configuration GUI
[07:03] <Viktor> apart from that everthing seems to be ok
[07:03] <Viktor> ill test youtube
[07:03] <maek> Install the Compiz config
[07:04] <maek> !compizconfig
[07:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compizconfig - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:04] <maek> !compiz
[07:04] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[07:04]  * DOOM_NX good morning all
[07:04] <maek> !compiz-config
[07:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compiz-config - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:05] <alan_m> !package compiz-config
[07:05] <maek> Viktor open up some TV shows you downloaded and make sure they are watchable in full screen
[07:05] <alan_m> heh, ok guess that wasnt right either, i forgot how to search for packages :/
[07:05] <Viktor> ok
[07:05] <cristi1990> can someone guide me on how do make the 5.1 audio sistem work instead of only 2 boxes?
[07:05] <nikrud> Viktor maek is suggesting you install compizconfig-settings-manager
[07:05] <Viktor> just waiting for flash to install
[07:05] <shasbot> i can hear the input from my mike play through the speakers, but how do i get programs like skype or sound recorder to use it?
[07:06] <shasbot> mic*
[07:06] <Viktor> what options are available within the ccsm?
[07:06] <maek> nikrud ROFL thats what I was after thanks !!
[07:06] <legolaswood> Any comment for me? I want to remove all sound related packages and configuration.
[07:06] <Adantan_Alex> !audio cristi1990
[07:06] <Adantan_Alex> !audio | cristi1990
[07:06] <ubotu> cristi1990: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:06] <cristi1990> Adantan_Alex: thank you
[07:06] <Adantan_Alex> any time ^^
[07:06] <nikrud> Viktor so much eye candy you will get a stomach ache
[07:06] <Viktor> ah yes
[07:06] <Viktor> i see the problem now
[07:07] <Viktor> with the full screen thing
[07:07] <maek> what problem do you see ??
[07:07] <Viktor> it acutally ends up in a small box bottom left hand corner of the screen, a window with a bit of image
[07:08] <maek> try installing the GNOME M Player Viktor .... that works for me best on Compiz
[07:08] <Viktor> im going to do some tests on a dvd, in full screen ill see if that works
[07:08] <Viktor> that last test was just on youtube
[07:08] <maek> also try using VLC with the output to X11 or GL ....
[07:09] <Daisuke_Ido> or you can just edit the system menu, enabe multimedia system selector, and select X11 as the default systemwide output.
[07:09] <maek> are you getting weird lines on YouTube video ??
[07:09] <Daisuke_Ido> pretty easy fix, but unfortunately it's hardly ever mentioned
[07:09] <nikrud> Daisuke_Ido doesn't that only control gstreamer, not vlc ?
[07:09] <maek> yeah only gstreamer
[07:10] <Daisuke_Ido> nikrud, yes, but if we're talking about anything other than vlc...
[07:10] <Viktor> oh well, now i see the lag, damn my AGP card ran better then this lmao
[07:10] <maek> MPlayer uses gstreamer ??
[07:10] <nikrud> Daisuke_Ido yup. I dislike totem dvd playback (no menus) so I always go to vlc or mplayer
[07:10] <nikrud> maek no, ffmpeg iirc
[07:11] <Daisuke_Ido> nikro, oh, i would definitely stick with vlc for dvd playback :)
[07:11] <maek> yeah try mplayer Viktor
[07:11] <onefunk> hey all, newbie here, i've looked at tutorials and all, been all over the net, i guess my brain isn't so fast after a;;. can someone please walk me through now to install a package i download? thanks in advance.
[07:11] <nikrud> maek not even ffmpeg, it does it all itself
[07:11] <negge> onefunk what kind of package is it?
[07:11] <Daisuke_Ido> onefunk, what package?
[07:11] <amenado> onefunk-> did you use synaptic?
[07:12] <maek> onefunk, either SYSTEM > ADMINISTRATION > SYNAPTIC PACKAGE MANAGER ... or for simple programs  APPLICATIONS > ADD REMOVE
[07:12] <icesword> onefunk, what file is it
[07:13] <maek> yay another Internodian
[07:13] <kindofabuzz> onefunk: you didn't look very hard if you can't find a site to tell you how to install a linux package
[07:14] <cjzjm100> do the unbuntu have softwares for electronics and embedded which included by Debian
[07:14] <maek> if its a .deb package = very easy ... if its a tar.gz or a .run file = very difficult
[07:14] <nikrud> cjzjm100 most likely, ubuntu syncs with debian unstable for each release
[07:15] <mindframe> how do i switch back to the ubuntu restricted nvidia module once ive compiled one from nvidia?
[07:16] <cristi1990> Adantan_Alex: it wasn't a driver problem after all... just needed to config the audio output... eh ty anyway
[07:16] <kikr> Hi, how can I flush the dns?
[07:17] <kindofabuzz> jiggle the handle
[07:17] <onefunk> hey all, it's a bunch of stuff and i keep getting error msgs, at the moment i just want to install yahoo messenger. i know, i know, but right now i don't have much latitude and have to do it.
[07:17] <kindofabuzz> =)
[07:17] <kikr> =P
[07:17] <kindofabuzz> is there even a yahoo for linux? i recommend pidgin onefunk
[07:17] <onefunk> kindofabuzz, hah, honestly i am this slow. i looked, i tried and i keep getting error msgs.
[07:18] <kindofabuzz> from?
[07:18] <bazhang> onefunk: please specify your error messages when installing
[07:19] <kindofabuzz> what are you trying to install?
[07:19] <icesword> bazhang, hello,there,
[07:19] <onefunk> kindofabuzz, well first i tried synaptic, that i'm cluesless at. then i tried the command line and that's where i got the msgs.
[07:19] <bazhang> icesword: hello
[07:20] <onefunk> bazhang, gimme a couple secs, brb
[07:20] <kindofabuzz> onefunk: what are you installing?  what's hard about synaptic? you just tell it what to install and hi apply
[07:20] <Adys> Silly question, why does the update manager ask for a password to check for updates, whereas it automatically checks for updates itself without asking for one?
[07:20] <bazhang> onefunk: any reason not to install something compatible with yahoo messenger instead of their buggy client?
[07:20] <kindofabuzz> don't install that yahoo for unix, looks very old
[07:21] <bazhang> Adys: simple system security
[07:21] <kindofabuzz> onefunk: for the 3rd time, what are you installing?
[07:21] <Adys> bazhang: id understand that if it wasnt doing it automatically itself :)
[07:21] <abhi_> ikonia: the file association issue with Adobe AIR on Gutsy has been fixed. Adobe has provided a solution which works on the Adobe AIR for Linux forum.
[07:21] <bazhang> kindofabuzz: calm down please
[07:21] <icesword> hehehe
[07:21] <maek> Adys because when its checking for updates it doesn't touch the system files
[07:21] <kindofabuzz> i'm calm, you calm down
[07:22] <abhi_> ikonia: apparently they  use Hardy at Adobe for testing purposes and they didn't encounter such an issue.
[07:22] <bazhang> Adys: aye but to access it you need to enter a password
[07:22] <onefunk> kindofabuzz, with all due respect, i repeat, i am installing yahoo messenger.
[07:22] <maek> Touch the system files = password please
[07:22] <kindofabuzz> onefunk: do not install yahoo messenger, it's very old version wise compared to the windows newest version
[07:23] <Adys> erm well, for what i saw you need a password to upgrade (normal), to update (ok..), and not to see the updates (normal aswell), however it doesnt ask for one when its automatically updating the lists
[07:23]  * Adys shrugs
[07:23] <onefunk> kindofabuzz, cool, so i'll try in pidgin then?
[07:23] <kindofabuzz> onefunk: try pidgin, go to getdeb.net and search for pidgin, there are 3 files you get, and they all auto install
[07:23] <maek> onefunk, you are downloading a Windows executable ... you need WINE in order to see if it can run on Linux
[07:23] <bazhang> Adys: you can configure its behaviour there as well
[07:24] <Adys> mmh okay
[07:24] <bazhang> is pidgin not in the repos?
[07:24] <kindofabuzz> maek: well there is a yahoo messenger unix client, but like i said, looks like it was forgotten 3 versions ago
[07:24] <Adys> bazhang: afaik 2.4 is not in the repo, an old one is
[07:24] <kindofabuzz> bazhang yeah it is but getdeb has the newst version
[07:24] <bazhang> Adys: and newer is always better right? ;]
[07:24] <onefunk> maek, no no i downloaded a package and it got as far as allowing me to install and then... full stop. i'll give pidgin a try. thanks
[07:24] <kindofabuzz> yeah
[07:24] <kindofabuzz> lol
[07:25] <Adys> muh =P
[07:25] <Adys> 2.4 is indeed better imo :)
[07:25] <bazhang> just look at Vista!
[07:25] <kindofabuzz> onefunk: http://www.getdeb.net/
[07:25] <Adys> Vista? I installed windows 3.1 Im fine with that
[07:25] <abompard> Hey, i have a question : if I install an Ubuntu this weekend, should I choose Gutsy and upgrade when Hardy is out, or should I install Hardy beta ?
[07:25] <bazhang> haha oops getting offtopic here
[07:26] <bazhang> abompard: the stable version gutsy
[07:26] <kindofabuzz> abompard: new to linux? get gutsy
[07:26] <Adys> abompard: your choice, hardy still crashes once in a while overall its pretty stable.
[07:26] <maek> abompard, wait till Hardy Heron is out
[07:26] <onefunk> kindofabuzz, yup, thanks, got it installed, will give it a shot. cheers
[07:26] <Adys> if you're new to linux you probably should install gutsy yea :)
[07:26] <kindofabuzz> np
[07:26] <abompard> I cant wait (someones comes from across the country...)
[07:26] <maek> not worth installing Gusty ATM imo
[07:26] <onefunk> bazhang, thanks
[07:27] <bazhang> onefunk: if you have any questions kindofabuzz will be waiting ;]
[07:27] <kindofabuzz> lol
[07:27] <bazhang> ;]
[07:27] <juice> anyone have firsthand experience with nvidia 8800GT OC drivers?
[07:27] <kindofabuzz> anyone tried making a torrent in deluge?  it crashes everytime
[07:28] <maek> why would you want to overclock your GPU in Linux ?? No point
[07:28] <maek> I use Transmission ... best torrent client ever
[07:28] <juice> word
[07:29] <kindofabuzz> tranmission crashed on me to, went ahead and installed wine and running utorrent, best torrent client ever
[07:29] <kindofabuzz> =)
[07:29] <kindofabuzz> wish they'd port to linux
[07:29] <abompard> ok, so the upgrade Gutsy->Hardy is more reliable than the current beta version of hardy ?
[07:29] <maek> utorrent is connected to the MAFIAA
[07:29] <kindofabuzz> i'm connected to the mafia
[07:29] <juice> maek: source?
[07:29] <latent> org
[07:30] <bazhang> abompard: best to be safe and wait
[07:30] <maek> hello Bittorrent own uTorrent
[07:30] <kindofabuzz> lol whatever
[07:30] <abompard> ok, thanks a lot guys
[07:30] <juice> maek: which mofia?
[07:30] <kikr> really, does anyone know how to flush the dns
[07:30] <maek> another word for the MPAA and the RIAA
[07:31] <juice> o
[07:31] <maek> bastards
[07:31] <ifireball> kikr: /etc/init.d/nscd restart
[07:31] <bazhang> language maek
[07:31] <juice> yes, indeed
[07:31] <ifireball> kikr: with sudo
[07:31] <kikr> bash: /etc/init.d/nscd: No such file or directory
[07:31] <ifireball> kikr: there youhave nothing to flush, restart you browser
[07:31] <kindofabuzz> network restart
[07:32] <kindofabuzz> wouldn't it be?
[07:32] <maek> bazhang,  in Australia that is not considered swearing
[07:32] <zcat[1]> Is there an official announcement anywhere about kubuntu+2 being the LTS version?
[07:32] <Djmack> good night yall
[07:32] <bazhang> maek: this is not australia thanks
[07:32] <kindofabuzz> maek: america sux =)
[07:32] <maek> g nite Djmack
[07:32] <kindofabuzz> jk
[07:32] <maek> bazhang, this is everywhere
[07:33] <maek> everyone has to consider everyones local dialect
[07:33] <kindofabuzz> bazhang: what's not australia?  do you know for sure the server is in US?
[07:33] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-clearflush-dns-cache-in-ubuntu.html kikr
[07:33] <bazhang> !ot
[07:33] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:34] <bibek> join #drupal-support
[07:34] <kikr> thank you
[07:34] <bazhang> no worries kikr ;]
[07:35] <juice> !8800
[07:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 8800 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:36] <juice> !nvidia 8800
[07:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidia 8800 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:36] <juice> !nvidia
[07:36] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:37] <agent> i'm having trouble figuring out what device my pocket pc is in the /dev/ folder.  It is connected to a serial port so I assume I need to do something to initiate the connection....
[07:37] <bazhang> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=103578 juice
[07:37] <juice> ty
[07:38] <bazhang> np
[07:40] <phreck> So whats the trick in getting desktop effects with the 8800 GT series cards?
[07:41] <mark[oz]> ubuntu-firefox is shit
[07:42] <kindofabuzz> umm it's the same as the other firefoxex
[07:42] <kindofabuzz> foxes
[07:42] <mark[oz]> ahhh no its not
[07:42] <kindofabuzz> ok then
[07:42] <mark[oz]> ubuntu have done their things to it
[07:42] <kindofabuzz> install 3 beta5
[07:42] <mark[oz]> its incompatible with some plugins.
[07:43] <mark[oz]> and it crashes a shitload more
[07:43] <kindofabuzz> get the code from mozilla
[07:43] <kindofabuzz> get a fresh copy then
[07:43] <phreck> So whats the trick in getting desktop effects with the 8800 GT series cards?
[07:44] <maek> phreck, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=696366
[07:44] <phreck> tyt
[07:45] <bazhang> !language | mark[oz]
[07:45] <ubotu> mark[oz]: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[07:45] <mark[oz]> !wanker bazhang
[07:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wanker bazhang - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:45] <icesword> lol
[07:46] <bazhang> mark[oz] stop now
[07:46] <phreck> nah thats not it
[07:46] <icesword> hi si gone
[07:46] <phreck> i dont have xgl installed
[07:46] <pen> what does xgl do?
[07:47] <maek> whats your terminal saying when you type in Compiz ??
[07:47] <maek> !xgl | pen
[07:47] <ubotu> pen: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[07:47] <mindframe> is there a way to add custom keyboard shortcuts in gnome?
[07:47] <pen> mindframe: two ways
[07:48] <pen> mindframe if you use compiz
[07:48] <mindframe> yes i do
[07:48] <resten5> whats the other way
[07:49] <AlferedHichcok> i think i have to reconfigure kde? how to do it? heres an error i got for wine http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/3246/snapshot1wn5.png ?
[07:49] <pen> the first way is easy, go to System | preferences | keyboard shortcut
[07:49] <mindframe> pen: that doesnt let me create my own does it?
[07:49] <mindframe> just modify existing commands
[07:49] <pen> mindframe that's in the second way
[07:50] <pen> mindframe go to ccsm
[07:50] <blue-frog> mindframe in console   gconf-editor   then apps/metacity/window ketybinding. define your command.   then apps/metacity/keybinding_command, define your shortcut
[07:50] <pen> mindframe AKA CompizConfig Settings Manager
[07:50] <mindframe> pen: what section of ccsm?
[07:50] <pen> mindframe click General Settings
[07:51] <pen> mindframe commands tab
[07:51] <mindframe> ah i see
[07:51] <mindframe> thanks pen
[07:51] <pen> np
[07:51] <agent> i'm having trouble figuring out what device my pocket pc is in the /dev/ folder.  It is connected to a serial port so I assume I need to do something to initiate the connection....
[07:52] <mindframe> jeez i have to say im gonna start using gnome instead of xfce now
[07:52] <maek> !pocketpc | agent
[07:52] <mindframe> its far surpassing it in usability
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pocketpc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:53] <agent> finding lots of data on pocketpc's that use usb
[07:53] <maek> !pocket-pc | agent
[07:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pocket-pc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:53] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/pocket-pc-syncing-with-evolution-in-ubuntu.html agent
[07:53] <Gandalf> Hi, I have a fresh install of ubuntu, with samba installed. I have a box with WinXP on it and am trying to get the two to see each other, already have a workgroup set up on Windows, and edited my smb.conf with the workgroup name.. obviously I'm missing other settings as they won't see each other. Any help would be greatly appreciated
[07:53] <maek> !pocket pc | agent
[07:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pocket pc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:53] <unop> agent, have you tried this? open a terminal and type  tail -f /var/log/dmesg  and then connect up your device, you might be able to find out more from the output there
[07:53] <bazhang> maek you can /msg ubotu for fun if you wish thanks
[07:53] <agent> yeah i tried
[07:53] <agent> nothing
[07:54] <agent> i did a sudo modprobe ipaq
[07:54] <maek> bazhang, why would I do that ??
[07:54] <unop> agent, some devices like that need to be set in a mode that enables them to be synchronised with a PC
[07:54] <unimatrix9> hi there
[07:54] <maek> hey unimatrix9
[07:54] <bazhang> maek to avoid flooding the channel with non-existent commands to the bot
[07:54] <agent> so the serial connection should have autodetected?
[07:54] <unimatrix9> whats the native video files that ubuntu can play, for impress presentations video?
[07:55] <Tatster> Hi all. I'm trying to recover a system that had a raid1 mirror with LVM on top, and one of the disk has failed.  I seem to be having issues with LVM logical volumes not being available now, but not too sure where to start troubleshooting them.
[07:55] <Tatster> The problem I seem to have is that the LV's are showing with a status of Not Available.  http://pastebin.ca/970152
[07:55] <Tatster> Is there a way I can make the LV's become available ?
[07:55] <unop> agent, well, not necessarily - like i said, there's probably some setting on your pocketpc that needs to be enabled for the PC to be able to detect it
[07:57] <kindofabuzz> Gandalf: the ubuntu should see the windows right away
[07:57] <kindofabuzz> but there is something you have to do to make windows see it, forgot how
[07:57] <juice> someone have the terminal install line for art manager?
[07:57] <Peddy> can someone help me with this samba error: Error NT_STATUS_CONNECTION_REFUSED
[07:57] <Gandalf> kindofabuzz: that's what I thought but it saw mshome, the default for ubuntu, and not the workgroup name I have so I changed it to the correct name and now it won't see anything
[07:58] <kindofabuzz> reboot?
[07:58] <Gandalf> tried that too
[07:58] <Gandalf> both machines
[07:58] <kindofabuzz> restart samba and the network
[07:58] <Gandalf> yup did that too
[07:58] <kindofabuzz> hmm
[07:58] <juice> art-manager anyone?
[07:59] <kindofabuzz> Gandalf: i hfollowed a good guide to get mine working, looking for it now
[07:59] <unop> Peddy, you could help by explaining what you are doing to get the error and where exactly it appears
[07:59] <Gandalf> kindofabuzz: ok thank you
[07:59] <agent> no i'm pretty sure it's set up
[07:59] <maek> install from gnome-look.org or art.gnome.org juice
[07:59] <Peddy> unop: essentially samba does not work, and running smbtree and smb4k gives me that error.
[08:00] <juice> maek: there is a sudo apt-get install "" thing but i 4get
[08:00] <ifireball> Peddy: you haqve a firewall of file sharing not working on the other side
[08:00] <maek> its better to download the themes then install them from the file juice
[08:01] <swilky> hey all dose any one know how to setup sendmail???
[08:01] <agent> i can set up a connection to a network using the "Hayes Modem"
[08:01] <Daviey> swilky: yeah, don't - use postfix or exim
[08:01] <icesword> !search
[08:01] <juice> maek: i dont use it 4 themes. i use it for logins. emerald does my themes
[08:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about search - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:01] <agent> Hayes Compatable Modem that is
[08:01] <Survivorman> sudo apt-get install gnome-art
[08:01] <maek> plus gnome art manager does not support gnome-look.org where all the good themes are
[08:01] <juice> ah ha! thanks Survivorman
[08:02] <Survivorman> np juice
[08:02] <Peddy> ifireball: its weird, I can access the windows shares via typing in the IP manually, but not my own. any ideas
[08:02] <Peddy> ?
[08:02] <maek> you should be able to install the theme from the GDM manager
[08:02] <juice> irc rocks
[08:02] <swilky> im running oscommerse on my ubuntu server and its set to use "sendmail"
[08:02] <swilky> so i apt-get installed sendmail
[08:03] <happy-sufferer> how do i send a message to someone on irc who's quit his irc program? Is there a "mail function"?
[08:03] <generalsnus> i can get thin clients to boot from edubuntu server out of the box, but how can i get workstations installed with edubuntu to authenticate against the server?
[08:03] <swilky> and that just made me even more sonfused
[08:03] <J-a-k-e> >	hello, can anyone help me figure out why sound in ubuntu isn't quite up to scratch compared to what I get in windows
[08:03] <Daviey> swilky: LOTS of packages provide the binary sendmail
[08:03] <ifireball> Peddy: what do you mean not your own?
[08:04] <ifireball> Peddy: you're trying to browse Samba shares on your local Ubuntu machine?
[08:04] <alabamahit> Is there a way to create a new Text File with out opening a program. Like right click somehow? Ubuntu 7.10
[08:04] <swilky> and not using post fix is your recomendaion?
[08:04] <ifireball> alabamahit: yes, just like that
[08:05] <AlferedHichcok> i think i have to reconfigure kde? how to do it? heres an error i got for wine http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/3246/snapshot1wn5.png ?
[08:05] <Peddy> ifireball, yes, my own samba shares.
[08:05] <ifireball> alabamahit: right-click in nautilus, Create document, empty file
[08:05] <alabamahit> ifireball: LOL thanks....it was it wasnt working at first it was wanting to run it not a text but its working now :)
[08:05] <ifireball> Peddy: have you bothered setting up SMB passwords?
[08:06] <Peddy> ifireball: yes I have
[08:06] <ifireball> Peddy: do you have a firewall running?
[08:06] <Peddy> ifireball: no
[08:07] <eax> Morning everyone. can anyone help with a problem I have with OpenOffice on Feisty?
[08:07] <ifireball> Peddy: also make sure that samba is actually running "pgrep -v smbd" and "pgrep -l nmbd" should both return process numbers
[08:08]  * AlferedHichcok waits
[08:08] <Peddy> ifireball: yes, they return process numbers.
[08:09] <ifireball> alabamahit: you can add more kinds of file to create by placing templates in the "Templates" directory in your home dir
[08:09] <Peddy> ifireball: the full error is here: http://pastebin.com/m82e1355
[08:10] <ifireball> Peddy: what does "smbclient -L localhost" give you
[08:10]  * AlferedHichcok waits
[08:10] <AlferedHichcok> i think i have to reconfigure kde? how to do it? heres an error i got for wine http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/3246/snapshot1wn5.png ?
[08:10] <ifireball> Peddy: I'm assuming you've set an smb password for the user you're currently using
[08:10] <alabamahit> ifireball: Sweet Thanks :)
[08:11] <kindofabuzz> and right click the folder you wanna share and choose smb
[08:11] <bazhang> AlferedHichcok: running mirc in wine? is that what got you into trouble
[08:11] <eax> Does anyone know why when I, in OpenOffice.org type "=(21,0-(B4*2))*(29,7-(B4*2))*B4" it changes it to: "=('21,0'-(B4*2))*('29,7'-(B4*2))*B4" AND gives me the wrong answer?
[08:11] <SanitariuM> Have a folder on hard drive... /media/disk/Music   ... trying to copying contents of /media/My Disc/ and all subdirs to it.... I tried "cp -r -u * /media/disk/Music" and kept getting errors cp : cannot stat - no such file or directory
[08:12] <danuel> Hi all, I need some help.  I think I removed myself from "adm" group and other important groups by usermod -G.  How can I correct this?
[08:12] <ifireball> eax: becasue of the "," you should use "." or change the language settings
[08:12] <SanitariuM> Needing help with copying entire contents of a disc to hard drive... the cp equivalent of copy *.* /s in winblows
[08:12] <eax> ifirefeball: Thanks Trying it now :)
[08:12] <Creationist> I'm planning on reinstalling Windows... I know I'm going to lose the ability to boot into Ubuntu again... where do I learn how to fix that?
[08:12] <danuel> Help!
[08:12] <kindofabuzz> sudo adduser <user> admin?
[08:13] <danuel> I cannot sudo
[08:13] <kindofabuzz> oh yeah
[08:13] <bazhang> Creationist: you can /msg ubotu grub for info and links
[08:13] <danuel> i removed myself from adm and adm!
[08:13] <eax> ifireball: Still just gives me the answer "0" the calculation: =(21-(B4*2))*(29.7-(B4*2))*B4
[08:13] <SanitariuM> (1) cd /media/My\ Disc (2) cp -r -u * /media/disk/Music (3) Errors with cp : cannot stat - no such file or directory (one error for each music folder)
[08:13] <kindofabuzz> log into your root then is all i can think of
[08:13] <danuel> How do I login as root in ubuntu?
[08:13] <danuel> I cannot su either
[08:14] <kindofabuzz> well you can't if you never set it up
[08:14] <eax> Danuel: You don't, you use sudo in terminal :)
[08:14] <_ruben> danuel: boot into recovery mode
[08:14] <alabamahit> ifireball: Where can i get templates like your talking about? just google or special place?
[08:14] <kindofabuzz> he can't udo eax
[08:14] <kindofabuzz> sudo
[08:14] <eax> kindofabuzz: Why not?
[08:14] <yahuuu> hello there
[08:14] <danuel> eax: yes i know, but I think you have to be part of the adm and admin groups to do that
[08:14] <kindofabuzz> because he can't that's his problem
[08:14] <ifireball> alabamahit: just create regular files that look like what you want to be your templates and place them there
[08:15] <clarence_> hello
[08:15] <eax> danuel_ Kan you go into the Users And Groups menu?
[08:15] <yahuuu> i want to install ubuntu on seperate HDD, when i restart my pc and ubuntu want me to install , when press install i cant get LIVE CD contents? why is that?
[08:15] <matyy> does someone know if it is possible to use scim in wine?
[08:15] <danuel> I'm trying the gui users/groups
[08:16] <maek> scim ??
[08:16] <danuel> could not authenticate
[08:16] <Creationist> bazhang: That's the keyword I was lookin' for.  Thanks :)
[08:16] <ifireball> eax: that depends on what you have in B4...
[08:16] <bazhang> matyy: why would you want to do that
[08:17] <matyy> bazhang: I am playing EVE Online using wine, works great, but I cannot chat with my chinese Friends.
[08:17] <unop> SanitariuM, i'm assuming that's because you have spaces in your filenames there -- you can use something like this -- find "/media/My Disc" -print0 | xargs -0 cp -t "/media/disk/Music"   (do test this out first as i havent)
[08:17] <bazhang> yahuuu: your message is a bit difficult to understand--you installed on an external hd or copied the files there? and grub does not come up? what exact errors are you getting--please be precise
[08:17] <geekaholic> hi... how do you install apache2 or any server for that matter on gutsy (8.04). I tried apt-cache search and got nothing
[08:18] <danuel> When I try operations in gui that asks for pw (e.g. update) and put in my pw it says "Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic '--hide-main-window' '--non-interactive' '--parent-window-id' '33554435' '--update-at-startup' as user root.
[08:18] <danuel> The underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. Contact the system administrator."
[08:18] <eax> Ifireball: What do you mean?
[08:19] <bazhang> matyy: the likelihood of using scim (linux) in wine (ms) on top of linux have to be exceedingly small--why not run something else in wine that supports chinese language
[08:19] <maek> geekaholic, wait for the stable version
[08:19] <danuel> _reuben: I'll try the recovery mode
[08:19] <yahuuu> bazhang: i having 2 HDD in pc, in 1 windowsXo and want ubuntu in other, simple is that when i restart my pc and put ubuntu cd in dvd rom, i cant install ubuntu
[08:19] <unop> SanitariuM, this might actually be better - find "/media/My Disk" -depth -print | cpio -pamVd "/media/disk/Music"
[08:19] <ifireball> geekaholic: "aptitude search apache" should give you a whole pile of stuff
[08:19] <maek> you shouldn't be running a webserver on beta software
[08:19] <bazhang> yahuuu: set it in the bios to look for cd first
[08:19] <yahuuu> it read the CD
[08:19] <ifireball> eax: if the "B4" cell contain zero (or nothing) that that formula will give you 0
[08:19] <matyy> bazhang: yeah, that's what I am looking for right now.
[08:20] <GIn> how do you change the font used for the application menu?
[08:20] <yahuuu> but when i press install ubuntu, it shows black (DOS) like screen and cant start the ubutu
[08:20] <bazhang> yahuuu: saying I cant do it is very unclear--what exact errors are you getting?
[08:20] <eax> ifireball: Ooh thanks :) It contains the value 526,3
[08:20] <icesword> hello,i want to know about this,if i rename some *.key file to txt,then edit it,then delete it,and after some one use recover app to recover it,then it will be a damaged file,right
[08:20] <yahuuu> it says root is not specity and something like that , i am not fimiliar with linux
[08:21] <Peddy> ifireball: sorry, I'm back now.
[08:21] <cristi1990> anyone here knows a dvd mounting program? i have a dvd image and i'd like to mount it
[08:21] <Peddy> ifireball: yes, I've set it up. and smbclient -L localhost times out
[08:21] <maek> cristi1990, Ubuntu should do that out of the box
[08:21]  * snuck dances
[08:21] <n3urogod> cristi1990, funnily enough "mount" does that by default
[08:21] <bazhang> yahuuu: sounds like a problem with the media, too fast burn speed, or corrupt iso; you can check the md5 sum, try burning again at lower speed, and/or try different quality (better) media
[08:22] <yahuuu> its the origiona CD's from canonial
[08:22] <cristi1990> n3urogod: loool ok
[08:22] <Peddy> ifireball: I've changed my hostname. it gives this error when I change 'localhost' to my host name: Error connecting to 127.0.0.1 (Connection refused)
[08:22] <maek> hangon no it doesn't
[08:22] <ifireball> Peddy: sounds like a firewall thing, like the port is somehow blocked, make sure "sudo iptables-save" doesn't return anything please
[08:22] <bazhang> yahuuu: could you pastebin the exact error message you get; then you can get help here
[08:22] <eax> Ifireball: It contains the value 526,3
[08:23] <yahuuu> bazhang: HDD is formated in windowsXP and its totally empty
[08:23] <bazhang> !paste | yahuuu
[08:23] <ubotu> yahuuu: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[08:23] <yahuuu> maybe this fault
[08:23] <happy-sufferer> hi people. is there a way to move from ubuntu 7.10 32 bit to 64 bit just via terminal (that is, without using a CD)?
[08:23] <unop> icesword, errm, recover which file tho -- the .key or the .txt?
[08:23] <phoenixzz> .
[08:23] <ifireball> eax: again the "," makes it be a string in OOo's eyese, so it 0 in numeric terms
[08:23] <Peddy> ifireball: it does return something. That something is here: http://pastebin.com/m426bbedf
[08:23] <halfbaked_m> hi guys.. i need help using ubuntu operating system..
[08:23] <bazhang> happy-sufferer: reinstall only way
[08:23] <happy-sufferer> bazhang: u mean "use CD"?
[08:23] <cristi1990> n3urogod: ok so if i have a iso how exactly do i mount the image?
[08:24] <eax> ifireball: But I changed the ,'s to .'s :S
[08:24] <peleg> this cron job: "18 08 3   4   1-7   touch /home/peleg/temp/blah4" just happened, but the  dom (day-of-month) is really 4 and not 3. any idea why? do you think that the day-of-week 1-7 overrides the day-of-month?
[08:24] <xukun> hi all. is it possible to use remote control with mplayer?
[08:24] <bazhang> happy-sufferer: nay; there are many ways you can /msg ubotu install for more info and links
[08:24] <ifireball> Peddy: ok. that looks fine (everything is set to accept)
[08:24] <danuel> _ruben: thanks recovery worked ... I did "usermod -G adm,admin daniel" and now thing are ok...now i have to add myself to all the default Groups ... do you know what they're or a link to them?
[08:24] <ifireball> eax: in B4 as well?
[08:24] <n3urogod> cristi1990, man mount....its all in there
[08:25] <ifireball> eax: make sure nothing contains '
[08:25] <icesword> unop, ya,the key file ,what i want to know is,that key is a important file,i want to safely delete it,whick makes recovery impossible,so i want to know if i edit the file,which is a binary file,then save it,will it takes up its origianal location of the disk?
[08:25] <icesword> unop, i hope you understand what i mean
[08:25] <_maw> anyone know how to convert dcf files to mp3?
[08:25] <_ruben> danuel: glad it worked, but wouldnt know of a list of default groups
[08:25] <bazhang> happy-sufferer: but it will mean a complete wipe of the old system, cd or no
[08:25] <ifireball> Peddy: what do you mean you've changed your hostname?
[08:25] <eax> Ifireball: Yeah :) It didn't, but I found the error. It was a human error 100% ;) thanks a lot for your help :) It's awesome there are people like you out there :)
[08:25] <doktoreas> hello everybody
[08:25] <happy-sufferer> bazhang: i don't mind. 8-)
[08:26] <danuel> _ruben:  ok thanks.
[08:26] <doktoreas> anyone using tomcat with ubuntu? I just installed it but pointing to localhost:8180 gives me nothing
[08:26] <xukun> Anybody please?. is it possible to use my remote control with mplayer? or with any remote?
[08:26] <Peddy> ifireball: so its not peddy@localhost or w/e but peddy@moonshine (name of pc)
[08:26] <Peddy> ifireball: could this problem be with my router?
[08:26] <cristi1990> n3urogod: wtf i don't have the mount option if i right click it idk
[08:26] <bazhang> xukun: your computer has IR? then perhaps but not sure about mplayer
[08:27] <halfbaked_m> hi! is it normal i can view the files in windows that i already deleted using ubuntu os?
[08:27] <unop> icesword, if you want to securely delete a file, use something like shred to overwrite the file with some random data -- to answer your original question, if someone recovers a file, it's probably recovered to it's last state .. if you edit a file and save it to disk, there is no guarantee that it will take up it's original location on disk
[08:27] <n3urogod> cristi1990, do you know what a command prompt is?
[08:27] <ifireball> Peddy: where did you change it? did you bother rebooting afterwards? as long as we're using "localhost" or 127.0.0.1 in our commands, the router has nothing to do with it
[08:27] <cristi1990> n3urogod: oh i mount it with terminal xD
[08:28] <icesword> unop, you know,if you deleted some file,and don't rewrite that location of the file,then recover is possible,i want some cannot recover the file,how thax
[08:28] <Peddy> ifireball: do you think I should enter my machine's name in the WINS server settings on my router? and I changed it a very long time ago (so yes, it has rebooted)
[08:28] <Peddy> ifireball: well, my machines IP address
[08:28] <bazhang> icesword: he told you use shred
[08:28] <happy-sufferer> what's the Ubuntu equivalent of Step 3, 4, and 5 on http://www.instantfundas.com/2007/08/install-any-linux-distro-directly-from.html?
[08:28] <xukun> bazhang, I have this: usbcore: registered new interface driver lirc_mceusb2 and the remote works, but I want use it with mplayer
[08:28] <icesword> bazhang, ya,okay
[08:29] <Peddy> ifireball: I'm really glad that you're helping me, btw
[08:29] <ifireball> Peddy: the name or address will be important when we try to connect from other machines, lets succeed in connecting locally 1st
[08:29] <bazhang> xukun: that sounds quite exotic; good luck on getting it going with that app--I saw a youtube of someone controlling compiz using a wiimote so it might well be possible
[08:30] <xukun> bazhang, thanks anyway
[08:30] <geekaholic> ifireball: aptitude search apache gives me nothing
[08:30] <ifireball> Peddy: but lets do a little sanity check, what does "host localhost" give you
[08:30] <manado_> JAKARTA
[08:30] <Peddy> ifireball: localhost has address 208.67.219.132
[08:30] <Peddy> Host localhost not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
[08:30] <unop_> geekaholic, you probably need to enable all repositories in software properties and run 'aptitude update' first before you get apache listed
[08:31] <unop_> Peddy, hmm, localhost should resolve to 127.0.0.1
[08:31] <geekaholic> I have multiverse, universe, restricted enabled
[08:31] <ifireball> geekaholic: seems like your machine isn't configure to use the repositories or repository data not updated, try "aptitude update"
[08:32] <geekaholic> ifireball: system is up2date
[08:32] <ifireball> Peddy: well, you have some kind of a mess there, how exactly did you change your hostname?
[08:32] <geekaholic> ifireball: I've used debian b4 and ubuntu 2 some degree
[08:32] <bazhang> !id | manado_
[08:32] <ubotu> manado_: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[08:33] <geekaholic> is anyone here running hardy?
[08:33] <ifireball> geekaholic: ok, then check your sources.list, does it point to the ubuntu repos ok?
[08:33] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for that geekaholic
[08:33] <happy-sufferer> bazhang: i have a question for you regarding installing ubuntu without cd.
[08:33] <Peddy> ifireball: I edited /etc/hostname
[08:33] <bazhang> aye happy-sufferer
[08:33] <alan_m> happy-sufferer your still here? dang man :)
[08:33] <happy-sufferer> bazhang: it's in the "ubunto msg install" thing.  what's the Ubuntu equivalent of Step 3, 4, and 5 on http://www.instantfundas.com/2007/08/install-any-linux-distro-directly-from.html?
[08:33] <Peddy> ifireball: the aforementioned IP is that of OpenDNS. any ideas?
[08:33] <happy-sufferer> alan_m: yeah. i should be asleep
[08:33] <geekaholic> ifireball: yup. I can install desktop apps fine
[08:34] <bazhang> happy-sufferer: hang on let me check thanks
[08:34] <alan_m> happy, same here lol, but im downloading 3 huge dvd sized iso images, so yeah.
[08:34] <mindframe> is there any kind of gnome applet that will set an alarm to play music?
[08:34] <ifireball> Peddy: paste your /etc/hosts file
[08:35] <CWE_17> HIII
[08:35] <alan_m> !caps | CWE_17
[08:35] <ubotu> CWE_17: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[08:35] <halfbaked_m> hi! is it normal i can view the files in windows that i already deleted from my usb using ubuntu os?
[08:35] <geekaholic> apt-cache search apache
[08:35] <geekaholic> libssl0.9.8 - SSL shared libraries
[08:35] <geekaholic> librpc-xml-perl - Perl module implementation of XML-RPC
[08:35] <geekaholic> libclucene0ldbl - library for full-featured text search engine (runtime)
[08:35] <FloodBot1> geekaholic: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:35] <geekaholic> sorry
[08:35] <boss> boo
[08:35] <Peddy> ifireball: 127.0.0.1 moonshine
[08:36] <unop_> geekaholic,  i think you need to run this - sudo aptitude update
[08:36] <geekaholic> unop_: I did sudo
[08:36] <maek> mindframe, http://blogs.gnome.org/rodrigo/2005/07/04/libnotify-in-gnome-applets/
[08:36] <firan45> yoyox
[08:36] <ifireball> Peddy: well, that ain't right; have you changed that file?
[08:36] <bazhang> http://www.howtoforge.com/unetbootin_windows_ubuntu_fedora this would be the ubuntu way happy-sufferer
[08:36] <Peddy> ifireball: not that I'm aware of; can you help me to change it back?
[08:36] <ifireball> Peddy: does your machine have a static address or DHCP-assigned?
[08:37] <happy-sufferer> bazhang: thanks!!!
[08:37] <geekaholic> Guys I know how to install packages. Its some thing else with Ubuntu+1. May b it packages apache2 and bind9 in a different repo
[08:37] <maek> mindframe, http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php/AlarmClockApp
[08:37] <bazhang> geekaholic: this is the wrong channel for Hardy discussion thanks
[08:37] <ifireball> Peddy: the 1st line should be  127.0.0.1 localhost
[08:37] <geekaholic> I cant even find samba
[08:37] <Peddy> ifireball: I think so, its always 192.168.1.3
[08:37] <unop_> geekaholic, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:38] <unop_> !pastebin | geekaholic
[08:38] <ubotu> geekaholic: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[08:38] <happy-sufferer> bazhang: that's a bit old (ubuntu 7.04 era)(. i wonder if there's a newer/better way.
[08:38] <ifireball> Peddy: but did you set it statically or does it get it from the router?
[08:38] <bazhang> happy-sufferer: you could copy the iso to your hd and mount it via loopback
[08:38] <Peddy> ifireball: I get it from the router
[08:38] <dotech> im trying to start and install from the 7.10 amd64 disc and i am getting a failure in busybox "(initramfs) [  66.245390] ata4.01: failed to set xfermode (err_mask=0x40)
[08:38] <firan45_> tyujhyj
[08:38] <ifireball> Peddy: the 2nd line should be 127.0.1.1 moonshine
[08:38] <dotech> now i am getting exception Emask from ata3.01, is this normal?
[08:39] <happy-sufferer> bazhang: how do i do that loopback thing? I already downloaded the iso.
[08:39] <dotech> i have a sata dvd-rom
[08:39] <bazhang> firan45: english please
[08:39] <ifireball> Peddy: after you make the change "host localhost" should give you 127.0.0.1
[08:40] <geekaholic> Ok sources.list @ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62099/
[08:40] <Viktor> Hi there, im a little irritated at this point, but im trying to figure out why when i type in fglrxinfo it shows that im using a bloody mesa driver when i installed it it was using fglrx driver, for my gphx card
[08:40] <Peddy> ifireball: do I have to restart any services?
[08:40] <Viktor> someone please shed some light on this
[08:40] <ifireball> Peddy: I don't think so
[08:40] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/mount-and-unmout-iso-images-without-burning-them.html happy-sufferer
[08:40] <Peddy> ifireball: still giving me the same. did you mean to say 127.0.1.1 instead of 127.0.0.1 like in the first line?
[08:40] <CWE_17> HIII
[08:40] <frostux> hey guys
[08:40] <happy-sufferer> bazhang: thanks again.
[08:40] <Viktor> god im getting pissed off with this
[08:41] <happy-sufferer> hey frostux
[08:41] <bazhang> geekaholic: this is Hardy correct? does unop_ know this as well?
[08:41] <frostux> anyone want to help me out with some ubuntu stuff I've been struggling with? :\
[08:41] <Peddy> ifireball: its still giving the same error as before
[08:41] <gooody> anyone here knows how to install docks in ubuntu gutsy?
[08:41] <pen> anyone here has problem with OO.o? I had problems with the page margins. In OO.o 0.95" is actually 1"
[08:41] <unop_> geekaholic, you had better ask about this in #ubuntu+1 -- hardy isn't yet supported in here
[08:42] <ifireball> Peddy: I said 127.0.1.1 for the 2nd line and I meant it
[08:42] <l0tU5> anyone ever installed a WoW server on linux?
[08:42] <happy-sufferer> i've installed ubuntu-desktop over my current xubuntu. what shoudl i do now?
[08:42] <ifireball> geekaholic: I though you said you were trying this on gutsy
[08:42] <Memphis{desktop}> l0tU5: yes
[08:42] <bazhang> gooody: you mean avant-window-navigator? enable their repos and install from there
[08:43] <Peddy> ifireball: ok, same error. in /etc/nsswitch.conf, is this part like it should be? hosts: files wins dns
[08:43] <Peddy> ifireball: in the right order*
[08:43] <l0tU5> Okay... awesome... can you tell me how... the internet just has a bunch of dead links...
[08:43] <bazhang> happy-sufferer: log out and back in (choose gnome in session gdm)
[08:43] <odb|fidel> hi. Restarting the network via /etc/init.d/networking restart always throws: SIOCDELRT no such process. Is that a usual output ? i dont think so. any ideas ?
[08:43] <happy-sufferer> bazhang: thanks!
[08:44] <gooody> bazhang: will docks work with my pc? i don't have any graphics card installed on it.
[08:44] <ifireball> Peddy: I rather it be "files dns wins" but it doesn't really mater as long as "files" is first
[08:44] <icesword> gooody, download mac4lin,that is a great guide,search via google
[08:44] <big-g> anyone here into dreamcast games?
[08:44] <bazhang> frostux: when you ask a question people may be able to help
[08:44] <pen> anyone here has problem with OO.o? I had problems with the page margins. In OO.o 0.95" is actually 1"
[08:44] <dotech> i added irqpoll at the end of the kernel line to fix it
[08:44] <xukun> bazhang, I get figured out to mplayer with my remote control
[08:44] <vegpuff> hi, how do i configure the "Places" in my desktop
[08:44] <bazhang> xukun: you did it?
[08:45] <l0tU5> Memphis{desktop},  Okay... awesome... can you tell me how... the internet just has a bunch of dead links...
[08:45] <xukun> bazhang, yes en its was not that hard either
[08:45] <ifireball> Peddy: but does "host localhost"  give you 127.0.0.1? we really need to get that sorted out first because if its not thing will break
[08:45] <Peddy> ifireball: any ideas about it not reading /etc/hosts, though?
[08:45] <unop_> l0tU5, all of the internet or just some of the internet?
[08:45] <bazhang> big-g: this is the ubuntu support channel thanks
[08:45] <big-g> your welcome
[08:45] <frostux> I'm experiencing CPU whining from my laptop... When I ran xubuntu I altered rc.local to add a parameter to the max_cstate file under sys/module/processor, but on ubuntu 8.4 I can't find that file :s
[08:45] <happy-sufferer> bazhang: hi. i'm logged in now, in gdm-gnome session.
[08:45] <maek> vegpuff, you can't
[08:46] <frostux> I've googled, but I'm at a loss... :\
[08:46] <bazhang> xukun: post it to ubuntuforums please! you will be hailed by all and sundry ;]
[08:46] <vegpuff> maek, oh! :(
[08:46] <Peddy> ifireball: nope, it does not give 127.0.0.1 I think this guy has the same issue http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-592071.html
[08:46] <ifireball> Peddy: oh w8, yeah out dns 1st... forgot, "host" is a DNS-only command
[08:46] <Memphis{desktop}> l0tU5, installing a wow server is kind of off topic, however i will offer some help over pm
[08:46] <l0tU5> unop_,  Alot of the links... Very unhelpful...
[08:46] <unop_> frostux, please move this to #ubuntu+1
[08:46] <happy-sufferer> it works, but "update manager" recommends installing xubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-docs, xubuntu-default stettings. these were recommended even before i installed ubuntu-desktop. what should i do now?
[08:46] <frostux> hu?
[08:46] <maek> vegpuff, what did you want to do with the places menu ??
[08:47] <maek> maybe there is a workaround
[08:47] <Peddy> !fireball: what should I do again? I didn't understand your last IM
[08:47] <vegpuff> i want to add some custom folders
[08:47] <vegpuff> for easy access
[08:47] <vegpuff> maek, ^
[08:47] <frostux> joined
[08:47] <ifireball> Peddy: what does "getent hosts localhost" give you, where does "ping localhost" go?
[08:47] <mikedoty> When I try to install an nvidia driver outside of X, it still complains that I have
[08:47] <mikedoty> and x session running.  How do I completely stop x?
[08:47] <gooody> will docks work with my pc? i don't have any graphics card installed on it.
[08:47] <mikedoty> I also did init 3 but that made no difference
[08:47] <maek> easy ... go Nautilis > Bookmarks > Add Bookmark
[08:47] <maek> vegpuff
[08:47] <geekaholic> ifireball: sorry it was Hardy, Ok i'll ask on that list
[08:48] <bazhang> gooody: no graphic card? so no xserver? why would you want a dock then?
[08:48] <vegpuff> thanks a lot maek !
[08:48] <l0tU5> Download and use a program called envy... Its the best way to install nvidia and ati drivers...
[08:48] <maek> np
[08:48] <ifireball> Peddy: make it "files dns wins" in /ets/nsswitch.conf
[08:48] <Peddy> ifireball: 1st one: 127.0.0.1       localhost 2nd one: PING localhost (127.0.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
[08:48] <Peddy> 64 bytes from localhost (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.036 ms
[08:48] <happy-sufferer> I instlled Xubuntu. Xubuntu recommended installing 237 updates, but I just ignored updating computer. Then I installed Ubuntu-desktop. What should i do with the Xubuntu-related updates? How do i know which updates i shoudl NOT install?
[08:48] <dgjones> !envy
[08:48] <ubotu> envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[08:48] <mikedoty> I tried envy, but it failed for me
[08:48] <bazhang> l0tU5: do not recommend that here
[08:48] <maek> sorry vegpuff it should be Edit Bookmarks
[08:49] <ifireball> Peddy: ok. looks better. now check in "smbclient -L localhost" work for you
[08:49] <mikedoty> I have tried nvidia-glx, nvidia-glx-legacy, and nvidia-glx-new, but it ALWAYS throws me into low-res mode and doesn't work
[08:49] <unop_> l0tU5, well, how well can you ping a host on the internet? ping google.com
[08:49] <l0tU5> Whats wrong with it?
[08:49] <mikedoty> How can I stop X?
[08:49] <Peddy> ifireball: Error connecting to 127.0.0.1 (Connection refused)
[08:49] <Peddy> Connection to localhost failed (Error NT_STATUS_CONNECTION_REFUSED)
[08:49] <unop_> mikedoty, sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop
[08:49] <mikedoty> When I try killing the process ID it reports X to be using, it just takes me back to log in to gnome
[08:50] <alan_m> where ? is either gdm or kdm, depending on what you have mikedoty
[08:50] <Tex-Twil> Hello
[08:50] <mikedoty> Ok, thanks unop_.  I'll give that a shot and see if it will install the driver
[08:50] <Peddy> ifireball: I tried restarting samba, it gives me this: start-stop-daemon: warning: failed to kill 8436: No such process
[08:50] <mikedoty> Ok, gnome it is.
[08:50] <gooody> bazhang: what is xserver sir? i'm a newbie and i only want to enhance the looks of my desktop using docks.
[08:50] <Tex-Twil> in my .ssh/know_hosts file I don't see the IP of the server , is it possible to change somehow the file#s format ?
[08:50] <bazhang> happy-sufferer: do you plan on using xubuntu in the future? if not then delete it; if so then update (the install size wont be that big)
[08:50] <unop_> Peddy, doesn't look like the samba services are staying alive
[08:51] <ifireball> Peddy: hmm... it might have not been running after all... re-try smbclient
[08:51] <|DuReX|> I got a new tv card, Hauppauge HVR-1300, seems like its getting seen perfectly in ubuntu dmesg output :http://pastebin.com/m61491e91  but I'm getting errors and can't use it :(
[08:51] <Gruelius> Does anyone know to have a sort of dynamic line for the swap in the fstab? my drive letter gets changed every single boot...
[08:51] <bazhang> gooody: no graphics card means no shiny gui desktop just a dos-like command line--is that true for you?
[08:51] <Peddy> ifireball: ok, it gives me shares now.
[08:51] <happy-sufferer> bazhang: no, i don't plan on using xubuntu
[08:51] <ifireball> Peddy: weird that the pgrep command we've run before found processes
[08:52] <alan_m> Gruelius...drive letter gets changed....what do you mean by this?
[08:52] <unop_> Gruelius, drive letter? :))
[08:52] <Peddy> ifireball: a list of shares. also, in places>network there is a weird file called smb-workgroup-MyFiles
[08:52] <Gruelius> unop_/dev/hdx3
[08:52] <unop_> Gruelius, what kind of drive is this? a removable one
[08:52] <happy-sufferer> bazhang: but what other stuff should i not install. I can tell that I don't want to install XUBUNTU, because the package name is obvious, but what about others that I am not aware of?
[08:52] <unop_> ?
[08:52] <Gruelius> its a physicall drive
[08:52] <Gruelius> attatched to a PCI ide controller
[08:52] <Gruelius> and there are two controllers
[08:52] <Gruelius> they like to swap
[08:52] <Peddy> ifireball: when I try to open it, it says The filename "smb-workgroup-MyFiles" indicates that this file is of type "x-directory/smb-share". The contents of the file indicate that the file is of type "desktop configuration file" etc.
[08:52] <Gruelius> so one day it will be /dev/hdi3
[08:52] <Gruelius> today /dev/hde3
[08:53] <mikedoty> Well I tried to build it and it had some kernel building error.  I thought there was something called "maketools" I could install
[08:53] <xukun> is there irc channel for mythbuntu?
[08:53] <mikedoty> I do have gcc installed, but maybe not something else it wants
[08:53] <bazhang> happy-sufferer: not much to worry about at this point--if you have internet (wired/wireless) then just leave it be until you know more about ubuntu
[08:53] <mikedoty> Eh, last time I tried this I screwed everything up anyway and had to reinstall ubuntu
[08:53] <mikedoty> Argh.
[08:53] <bazhang> xukun: #ubuntu-mythtv
[08:54] <happy-sufferer> bazhang: i prefer not to have Xubuntu stuff on my Ubuntu comp. 8-)
[08:54] <xukun> bazhang, thanks
[08:54] <ifireball> Peddy: weird. was the last time you've started gnome before or after you've changed the hostname?
[08:54] <unop_> Gruelius, i guess you can use a udev-rule to have some consistency ..
[08:54] <mikedoty> But all of the apt-cache drivers don't seem to work.  I'll try one again
[08:54] <gooody> bazhang: sori sir. what i meant is that i don't have an agp or pci graphics card install on it. i only have an onboard graphics chipset on it.
[08:54] <mikedoty> and then maybe I can provide more than "It just doesn't work."
[08:54] <unop_> !udev rules | Gruelius
[08:54] <ubotu> Gruelius: Ever wanted to make your USB-stick /dev/usbstick? Go to http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html to learn more about this feature.
[08:54] <bazhang> happy-sufferer: but until you know more than you risk removing vital things--best to learn the safe way to do that with a bit of background reading
[08:54] <Peddy> ifireball: no, I renamed it about half a year ago.
[08:55] <bazhang> gooody: how much system ram you got
[08:55] <Peddy> ifireball: what should be in /etc/resolv.conf?
[08:55] <happy-sufferer> bazhang: ok. but isn't there a way for the computer to be smart and automatically detect all Xubuntu apps and ask if I want them removed?
[08:55] <gooody> bazhang: 512mb
[08:55] <ifireball> Peddy: and you've been running with a broken /etc/hosts since then? I'm surprised you could even start X...
[08:55] <bazhang> happy-sufferer: if you find it then post it to ubuntuforums ;]
[08:56] <ifireball> Peddy: you shouldn't mess with it because you're using DHCP
[08:56] <Peddy> ifireball: have you read this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=592071
[08:56] <akatsuki> hi newbie here using ubuntu.. one question... when i instal it there was like a kind of 'search option' it was yellow color i remember
[08:56] <bazhang> gooody: awn (avant-window-navigator) should be okay on that perhaps a bit sluggish (more ram is always good)
[08:56] <akatsuki> is not there anymore.. where can i find it?
[08:56] <happy-sufferer> bazhang: are you implying that people who play around with different "flavors" of ubuntu (e.g. kubuntu and xubuntu) risk having their harddrive stored with unused files?
[08:56] <maek> what is the best dock for ubuntu ??
[08:57] <Frogzoo> gnome-panel?
[08:57] <irelinquish> ohhh god, i just made ubuntu completly dark by pressing some ctrl combo?
[08:57] <maek> nah like OSX dock
[08:57] <irelinquish> has anyone done this before
[08:57] <gooody> bazhang: can i install awn using the synaptic package manager?
[08:57] <bazhang> happy-sufferer: not at all; just that I am not going to walk you through it in this very busy channel right now--you are free to ask others but it is not a one click process and requires a bit of reading/understanding of the linux filesystem etc.
[08:57] <maek> yes gooody
[08:58] <happy-sufferer> bazhang: i see.
[08:58] <happy-sufferer> it's not as simple as sudo aptitude remove xubuntu-desktop, is it?
[08:58] <ifireball> Peddy: It doesn't matter, the configuration discussed there is of a server running its own DNS, its unrelated to your setup
[08:58] <cristi1990> how do i mount a dvd imagae that is on a windows partition?
[08:58] <akatsuki> Does the restricted drivers really work? The firmware for broadcom didnt work for me! I cant use wireless...
[08:58] <bazhang> happy-sufferer: no that is a metapackage
[08:58] <akatsuki> any sugestion
[08:58] <Peddy> ifireball: oh, ok
[08:58] <irelinquish> gmount cristi1990
[08:59] <irelinquish> asumming you have the windows drive mounted
[08:59] <cristi1990> irelinquish:  bash: gmount: command not found
[08:59] <ifireball> Peddy: anyway Samba works for you now doesn't it?
[08:59] <gooody> maek: thanks a lot. i will try it.
[08:59] <Tex-Twil> please, how can I see the IP of a SSH server in the know_hosts file
[09:00] <bazhang> is awn in the gutsy repos?
[09:00] <Peddy> ifireball: nope
[09:00] <cristi1990> irelinquish: and yes i have the windows partition mounted
[09:00] <irelinquish> akatsuki, you have to install sudo apt install b43-fwcutter. after you disable the restricted driver
[09:00] <ifireball> Peddy: but you've told me you see shares when you do "smbclient -L localhost"
[09:00] <irelinquish> sudo apt-get install gmount
[09:00] <happy-sufferer> bazhang: what about the last paragraph on http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome?
[09:01] <Aloha> how do i get sound to play in firefox and in xmms at the same time?
[09:01] <happy-sufferer> bazhang:  that is http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome . (no question mark at the end of URL)
[09:01] <Tex-Twil> please, how can I see the IP of a SSH server in the know_hosts file: http://pastebin.com/m1d44b984
[09:01] <Peddy> ifireball: only my own ones, and I still can't access them from places>network.
[09:01] <cristi1990> irelinquish: E: Couldn't find package gmount
[09:01] <irelinquish> yeah hold on let me find it
[09:01] <dgjones> bazhang, AWN isn't in the Gutsy repo's, although there's a how to at http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-avant-window-navigator-awn-in-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon.html
[09:01] <irelinquish> there is kiso
[09:01] <irelinquish> for kde i know that
[09:01] <juice> !wine
[09:01] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[09:02] <bazhang> bravo happy-sufferer! that is it except for the very last bit about install ubuntu-desktop as you already have it
[09:02] <irelinquish> i guess just use that
[09:02] <ifireball> Peddy: what exatly are you trying to do, have your machine read shares from other machines or the other way around?\
[09:02] <bazhang> ah thanks dgjones; it is for hardy
[09:02] <juice> !AppDB iMEDIAN
[09:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about appdb imedian - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:02] <happy-sufferer> bazhang: that page is for 7.10, but does that apply to, um, y'know, eh, 8.04? 8-)
[09:02] <tronics> Hi does anyone know what repos I need to get the latest viewcvs version for ubuntu?
[09:02] <akatsuki> irenlinquish so you mean that i install sudo apt install b43-fwcutte .. then i disable the broadcom driver
[09:02] <bazhang> happy-sufferer: sure must do
[09:02] <cristi1990> irelinquish: just use what? wine? have it already and idk how would that help me
[09:02] <akatsuki> and then i eneble it again?
[09:02] <dgjones> bazhang, yes, i'd read that it was included in hardy
[09:03] <happy-sufferer> bazhang: how come you just didn't tell me about that one-line command? 8-)
[09:03] <Peddy> ifireball: I got places>network>windows network>workgroup and it says: sorry, couldn't display the contents of windows network:workgroup.
[09:03] <irelinquish> akatsuki, do it the opposite way
[09:03] <irelinquish> but yes ill like you a blog post about it
[09:03] <Peddy> ifireball: I'm trying to access my own shares
[09:03] <akatsuki> ok first i disabled it.. then install and then enable? ok
[09:03] <bazhang> happy-sufferer: that is  a very long paste and beyond the limits of this channel thanks
[09:03] <happy-sufferer> i see.
[09:03] <akatsuki> so i need to install this as root?
[09:04] <akatsuki> in ubuntu you use also su root ?
[09:04] <tronics> does anyone know what repos I need to get the latest viewcvs version for ubuntu?
[09:04] <akatsuki> wow
[09:04] <akatsuki> su: authentication failure why
[09:04] <ifireball> Peddy: whais the name of the workgroup you've setup in /etc/smb.conf ?
[09:04] <akatsuki> y try su root then i type my pasword
[09:05] <Peddy> 'workgroup'
[09:05] <tronics> there is no password for root by default
[09:05] <merlin_> oh?
[09:05] <tronics> so you need to sudo passwd
[09:05] <irelinquish> akatsuki, you have to use sudo
[09:05] <cristi1990> irelinquish: so? what do i do about the mount ?
[09:05] <tronics> first
[09:05] <irelinquish> lol
[09:05] <irelinquish> cristi, use kiso
[09:05] <irelinquish> sudo apt-get install kiso
[09:05] <Peddy> ifireball: 'workgroup'
[09:05] <merlin_> just try          sudo screen
[09:05] <akatsuki> how do i go root in ubuntu lol
[09:05] <akatsuki> sudo root?
[09:05] <bazhang> akatsuki: use sudo not su
[09:05] <cristi1990> i have gnome interface
[09:05] <merlin_> then you can work as root
[09:05] <irelinquish> no just type sudo
[09:06] <ifireball> Peddy: also since we've changed /ets/hosts and the "localhost" mapping this may be a goot point to restart, many thing may work differently after that, and I need to go for a while...
[09:06] <irelinquish> its ok you can still use it cristi
[09:06] <tronics> or type sudo passwd and enter a password then you can su
[09:06] <cristi1990> irelinquish: ok i'll try
[09:06] <akatsuki> all right thx
[09:06] <akatsuki> im root now
[09:06] <Peddy> ifireball: whoa, I can access both computers now. I think this problem is intermittent, I could access both of them before, then couldn't, now I can.
[09:06] <tronics> does anyone know what repos I need to get the latest viewcvs version for ubuntu?
[09:06] <irelinquish> akatsuki, http://www.ubuntu1501.com/
[09:06] <irelinquish> just read the first post about wireless
[09:06] <akatsuki> irelinquish when i try to install b43-fwcutte it appears: command not found
[09:06] <akatsuki> :S
[09:06] <cristi1990> irelinquish: and will the command be?
[09:07] <irelinquish> sudo apt-get install kiso
[09:07] <cristi1990> irelinquish: not that.. after i install it i mean
[09:07] <irelinquish> there is a gui?
[09:07] <cristi1990> irelinquish: my bad ~_~
[09:07] <akatsuki> oh emerge is not use in ubuntu?
[09:07] <merlin_> the sudo thing sucks if you need to work as root
[09:07] <akatsuki> no emerge in ubuntu?
[09:07] <ifireball> Peddy: reboot, see if it gets better, otherwise this may be some kind of a network problem (is it wireless?) ?
[09:08] <Peddy> ifireball: I will restart, and get back to you. Thank you incredibly for all the stuff that you've done.
[09:08] <irelinquish> dude, this is not gentoo
[09:08] <tronics> does anyone know what repos I need to get the latest viewcvs version for ubuntu?
[09:08] <Peddy> ifireball: wireless network, yes
[09:08] <akatsuki> ok irelinquish
[09:08] <akatsuki> sorry i was using sabayon before
[09:08] <akatsuki> but i just change to ubuntu
[09:08] <irelinquish> i was also, why did you switch?
[09:08] <mikedoty> Can anyone explain this?  http://imagebin.org/15748
[09:09] <ifireball> Peddy: hmm, reception problems maybe, but see how it behaves after a clean boot 1st
[09:09] <tronics> does anyone know what repos I need to get the latest viewcvs version for ubuntu?
[09:09] <akatsuki> for some reason my laptop get extremely hot when im using sabayon
[09:09] <akatsuki> i dont know why
[09:09] <irelinquish> tronics, google
[09:09] <icesword> akatsuki, how hot
[09:09] <irelinquish> thats funny
[09:10] <gooody> how can i enable desktop effects  in ubuntu gutsy?
[09:10] <akatsuki> very very hot.. than my laptop had to shut down cause selfprotection
[09:10] <akatsuki> no joke
[09:10] <akatsuki> thats was weird
[09:10] <frostux> anyone experience cpu whining on their laptop?
[09:10] <mikedoty> Why does the dialog say the one that is checked is not in use
[09:10] <mikedoty> And say the one that is uncheck is in use?!
[09:11] <AutoMatriX> !libnotify
[09:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libnotify - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:12] <irelinquish> ok ive been helping people out can some one explain what i did here http://i28.tinypic.com/qp32mg.png
[09:12] <irelinquish> i used some ctrl combo and then it did that
[09:12] <irelinquish> made my display go negative
[09:13] <akatsuki> irelinquish.. a desktop environment is for example kde, gnome, etc?
[09:13] <DistroJockey> irelinquish: try <Super>+m
[09:13] <SchighSchagh> hey, how do I convert an mp3 file into m4a?
[09:13] <irelinquish> yep, akatsuki
[09:14] <akatsuki> ok
[09:14] <icesword> irelinquish, what you do there
[09:14] <akatsuki> had you use before xfce?
[09:14] <irelinquish> how much do you know about nix
[09:14] <akatsuki> they claim is faster
[09:14] <akatsuki> i dont know..
[09:14] <irelinquish> icesword i have no idea
[09:14] <Pierro> akatsuki are you really japanese?
[09:14] <irelinquish> it uses less resources, if gnome works for you dont switch
[09:14] <akatsuki> im not
[09:14] <Pierro> oh
[09:14] <icesword> irelinquish, you posted that photo,and asked ?
[09:14] <akatsuki> but i had been in japan 3 times for judo training
[09:14] <irelinquish> ohh yeah, i have no idea what i did
[09:14] <DistroJockey> irelinquish: <Super>+m
[09:15] <akatsuki> i use to be judo national champ. imao
[09:15] <irelinquish> distro jockey, i love you
[09:15] <DistroJockey> irelinquish: hehe, steady on ;P
[09:15] <gooody> need help here. i can't enable desktop effects
[09:15] <irelinquish> icesword, i pressed super m
[09:15] <|DuReX|> I got a new tv card, Hauppauge HVR-1300, seems like its getting seen perfectly in ubuntu dmesg output :http://pastebin.com/m61491e91  but I'm getting errors and can't use it :(
[09:15] <|DuReX|> plz :(
[09:15] <irelinquish> distro jockey i'm pretty linux savvy but that had me stumped lol
[09:16] <erUSUL> SchighSchagh: try with ffmpeg
[09:16] <akatsuki> does anyone had use XFCE Or other desktop environment that claim to run much faster??? it is true or is not?
[09:16] <bazhang> |DuReX|: for mythtv?
[09:16] <Pierro> |DuReX| thanks man i am so grateful
[09:16] <Pierro> |DuReX| thanks to you i don't have any siblings ty :)
[09:16] <|DuReX|> to use mythtv yes :)
[09:16] <Pierro> :(
[09:16] <DistroJockey> irelinquish: get the Advanced Desktop Effects Settings thingy, it tells the key combos for compiz
[09:16]  * Pierro wears a |DuReX|
[09:16] <bazhang> |DuReX|: you checked the ubuntu mythtv channel yet?
[09:16] <erUSUL> !ccsm | irelinquish
[09:17] <ubotu> irelinquish: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[09:17] <|DuReX|> not yet no
[09:17] <Pierro> !ot | |DuReX|
[09:17] <ubotu> |DuReX|: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:17] <th3ad3d> Hello all, I have a Mac Laptop, and I just installed Gutsy. How can I make a keyboard shortcut for a "right-click" ?
[09:17] <bazhang> #ubuntu-mythtv
[09:17] <DistroJockey> that's the one, thanks erUSUL
[09:17] <irelinquish> ok thanks
[09:17] <irelinquish> i have ccsm installed
[09:17] <erUSUL> DistroJockey: no problem
[09:17] <akatsuki> btw i dont use compiz at all.. it takes a lot of space and speed?? how can i desinstall compiz?
[09:17] <jaffarkelshac> how do i stop shared folders mounting on desktop all the time, its messy
[09:18] <tarelerulz> When I try using "Advanced customization  desktop effects it says it can't do them.  It don't even stay a reason  why ? how would I figure out hot to get them working
[09:18] <maek> compiz doesn't take up much space and compiz will actually make your computer faster with it on
[09:18] <irelinquish> whats your grafics card tarelerulz?
[09:18] <icesword> irelinquish, it is night there?huh?
[09:19] <gooody> how do I enable desktop effects?
[09:19] <Pierro> gooody you pray
[09:19] <irelinquish> pretty much, pretty much icesword
[09:19] <Pierro> praying works for everything
[09:19] <irelinquish> sudo apt-get install brain
[09:19] <th3ad3d> How can I make a keyboard + mouse click shortcut to activitate a "right-click"?
[09:19] <tarelerulz> irelinquish:  this is what I get for lspci  Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)
[09:19] <bazhang> akatsuki: sudo apt-get remove compiz; best way is to go into synaptic and check all the search terms that match compiz and mark them for deletion
[09:19] <dgjones> jaffarkelshac, open up gconf-editor, In the left pane of the window, browse to apps->nautilus->desktop. Uncheck the volumes_visible option and the partitions on your desktop will disappear (This works if the volumes are mounted from /media)
[09:19] <icesword> irelinquish, lol
[09:20] <bazhang> Pierro: not helpful
[09:20] <jaffarkelshac> dgjones, thanks
[09:21] <irelinquish> tarelerulz, i was looking for nvidia, or ati?
[09:21] <irelinquish> like i have an ati express 1800 or somthing
[09:21] <Pierro> irelinquish there is a new technique available to imprint intelligence onto a brain it turns out that being dumb helps to achieve maximum intelligence this means that in the future the intelligent people will be the dumb ones ironic huh
[09:22] <th3ad3d> Hello all, I have a Mac Laptop, and I just installed Gutsy. How can I make a keyboard shortcut for a "right-click" ?
[09:22] <dufeeducky> Vanya
[09:22] <bazhang> Pierro: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:22] <Pierro> !ot | bazhang
[09:22] <ubotu> bazhang: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:22] <bazhang> Pierro: please stop
[09:23] <irelinquish> th3ad3d, it was a key combo i remember that
[09:23] <icesword> bazhang, you are so unlucky today,heheh
[09:23] <Pierro> bazhang intolerance is offtopic in all ubuntu channels
[09:23] <irelinquish> ill google it for you if you really want me to
[09:23] <dufeeducky> y
[09:23] <Pierro> i think you forgot the ubuntu philosophy bazhang
[09:23] <icesword> i should said lucky ,ehehe
[09:23] <Peddy> ifireball: ok, all seems to be working now, but the Window computer does not appear in places>network. I can do the smbclient command to its IP, (but not its hostname). Any ideas?
[09:23] <bazhang> Pierro: again please go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:24] <erUSUL> th3ad3d: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=193864 See the second comment
[09:24] <akatsuki> irelinquish there was a problem with sudo apt-get remove compiz
[09:24] <Peddy> ifireball: the smbclient command gives: session request to 192.168.1.2 failed (Called name not present), as well as a list of the Windows shares
[09:24] <gooody> newbie here. i can't figured it out how to install avant window navigator.
[09:24] <akatsuki> sorry i mean lol
[09:24] <bazhang> gooody: hang on a second
[09:24] <tarelerulz> irelinquish: I think it is an intel
[09:24] <akatsuki> there was a problem with
[09:24] <akatsuki> sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[09:24] <irelinquish> gooody sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator
[09:24] <Lamego> gooody, Synpatic, search for it
[09:24] <akatsuki> oh never mind
[09:25] <akatsuki> it works now
[09:25] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-avant-window-navigator-awn-in-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon.html gooody
[09:25] <irelinquish> ohh true, i'm using the beta sorry
[09:25] <akatsuki> i will activate the driver now and look if my wireless is working
[09:25] <akatsuki> brb
[09:25] <irelinquish> awn has a wiki that says it
[09:25] <cvasilak> hi i have a symbolic link(a) that points to a folder. I have another symbolic(b) link that points to the previous symbolink link(a). How can i remove (b) ?
[09:25] <Lamego> cvasilak, rm b
[09:25] <akatsuki> hey irelinquish check: E: Couldn't find package b43-fwcutter
[09:25] <akatsuki> :(
[09:26] <irelinquish> tarelerulz, i have no idea how to help you then
[09:26] <Pierro> Lamego i think its a trick question
[09:26] <erUSUL> !broadcom | akatsuki
[09:26] <ubotu> akatsuki: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[09:26] <Lamego> not it's not, there nothing special about deleting a symlink
[09:26] <irelinquish> and your using 7.10?
[09:26] <icesword> irelinquish, you kingkong,don't need sleep?
[09:26] <cvasilak> Lamego, it responds with  rm: cannot remove `(b)/': Not a directory
[09:26] <zero_> hey, i need help uninstalling a program, can anyone help me uninstal win4lin?
[09:26] <Pierro> see Lamego i was right ;)
[09:26] <gooody> bazhang: i have problem on enabling desktop effects.
[09:27] <bazhang> Pierro: you have been asked repeatedly to stop with the unhelpful comments
[09:27] <irelinquish> meh, i dont beleive in evolution, but i dont need sleep
[09:27] <irelinquish> this is my community service
[09:27] <Lamego> cvasilak, that is not related to beeing a link, but to the fact that you are using / for a file
[09:27] <Pierro> bazhang i need help can you help me?
[09:27] <Pierro> where is the ubuntu channel for zuid afrika?
[09:27] <hetauma> why nvidia-glx is not on lenny's repos?
[09:28] <bazhang> Pierro: please describe your issue on one line clearly and if someone knows they will help
[09:28] <cvasilak> Lamego, ok worked thanks :)
[09:28] <tonyyarusso> hetauma: uh, how would we know?  Lenny is debian.
[09:28] <zero_> im trying to run a free trial of win4lin, i used it once before, so i know i can run it
[09:28] <akatsuki> irelinquish i had this error: E: Couldn't find package b43-fwcutter
[09:28] <akatsuki> :(
[09:28] <hetauma> oops sorry wrong channel :(
[09:28] <erUSUL> Pierro: usually #ubuntu-<country iso code>
[09:28] <Pierro> where is the ubuntu help channel for afrikaners?
[09:28] <irelinquish> akatuski are you using 7.10?
[09:28] <akatsuki> yes
[09:29] <Pierro> what is the country iso code?
[09:29] <gooody> bazhang: sir don't mind pierro. he's wasting your time.
[09:29] <zero_> i get this error trying to start it from the terminal  error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:29] <bazhang> gooody: did you see the link to install awn?
[09:29] <irelinquish> grr i'm not sure akatsuki
[09:29] <erUSUL> Pierro: a two letter code that every country has Spanish --> es | France --> fr | etc...
[09:29] <Lamego> zero_, it uses binaries linked with a differente gtk library
[09:29] <Pierro> gooody mind your own business n00b
[09:29] <irelinquish> let me do some looking around
[09:30] <zero_> Lamego, ok, how do i fix that?
[09:30] <akatsuki> thx
[09:30] <bazhang> !ops | Pierro
[09:30] <ubotu> Pierro: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpatrick or jussi01!
[09:30] <lia> cinta
[09:30] <Pierro> !ops | bazhang
[09:30] <ubotu> bazhang: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpatrick or jussi01!
[09:30] <Lamego> zero_, you do not, that win4lin version is not compatible with ubuntu
[09:30] <gooody> bazhang: yes sir but i have problems enabling desktop effects.
[09:30] <zero_> Lamego, is there a way to uninstall it?
[09:30] <peter77> Ubuntu has frozen twice now and the fans on my laptop went mental!
[09:30] <zero_> Lamego, i see no uninstall file
[09:30] <Lamego> zero_, depends on how it was installed
[09:30] <peter77> is this more than likely overheating?
[09:30] <Amaranth> peter77: if it overheats it turns off
[09:30] <zero_> Lamego, i used a deb file
[09:30] <bazhang> gooody: that would be in appearances settings; you need to have the 3d drivers for your card installed as well
[09:31] <Amaranth> peter77: does your laptop have nvidia graphics?
[09:31] <Lamego> zero_, ok, sou you can remove it, dpkg -r package_name
[09:31] <peter77> Amaranth, no intel
[09:31] <Amaranth> hrm
[09:31] <zero_> lamego, so just uninstall the package it was called in the deb file?
[09:31] <Syzygi> hey! someone able to help me?:(
[09:31] <Lamego> zero_, yes
[09:31] <Syzygi> newbie to IRC><
[09:31] <bazhang> Syzygi: ask a question first ;]
[09:31] <Lamego> !anyone | Syzygi
[09:31] <ubotu> Syzygi: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:32] <Vanya_> hahaha
[09:32] <lopin> Can anyone help me with usplash customization?  I just want a custom background...  Nothing fancy..  Don't even need a progress bar...
[09:32] <zero_> Lamego, thank you
[09:32] <peter77> Amaranth, I've installed a temp screenlet, I've been using my laptop a lot more than normal and the crashes happened after a few hours on
[09:32] <gooody> bazhang: how will i install those 3D drivers?
[09:32] <Amaranth> peter77: do you use compiz?
[09:32] <peter77> Aramanth, atm my laptop is 23c but it was approaching 60c last night and yes I use compiz
[09:32] <irelinquish> akatsuki, check your pm?
[09:32] <Syzygi> haha..sorry.. well, I don't know how to connect to a IRCchat I really wanted to connect to! it's not in my list of possible ircchats...
[09:32] <bazhang> gooody: which card do you have? normally through the restricted drivers manager--this is gutsy gibbon 7.10 correct?
[09:32] <akatsuki> pm??
[09:32] <akatsuki> what u mean
[09:32] <Amaranth> peter77: I guess you could disable compiz, see if it helps
[09:33] <peter77> Aramanth, I've never had any trouble before whilst using compiz or beryl though
[09:33] <bazhang> akatsuki: private message = pm
[09:33] <erUSUL> !usplash | lopin
[09:33] <ubotu> lopin: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[09:33] <akatsuki> oh lol
[09:33] <akatsuki> k thx
[09:33] <Amaranth> peter77: dunno, all I know is compiz stuff :)
[09:33] <mikedoty> Man, why does linux suck so bad at video card drivers?
[09:33] <Seveas> mikedoty, if you need help, I'd drop that attitude
[09:34] <peter77> Amaranth, :-)
[09:34] <mikedoty> Then you have this envy app that won't even fit all of its contents when you're stuck in sad low res mode and won't let you scroll down.  YOu have to guess with the space bar :(
[09:34] <lopin> Definitely been looking at that page, and it's confusing me a bit...
[09:34] <gooody> bazhang: i have integrated VIA ProSavage8 Graphics. i'm running ubuntu 7.10 gutsy.
[09:34] <peter77> Amaranth, it gets hot when running Second Life and other 3d games in windows but never enough to crash the OS
[09:34] <irelinquish> mikedoty, b/c you didn't develop your own driver?
[09:34] <erUSUL> !envy > mikedoty
[09:34] <Amaranth> mikedoty: bad infrastructure and nvidia and ati don't write good drivers
[09:34] <mikedoty> It's attitude of spending 5 hours trying to get my video card to work and reality
[09:35] <icesword> bazhang, shui zai zai zhe er tao ren yan,jiu ba ta ti le,heheh,:p
[09:35] <bazhang> gooody: you can ask in #compiz-fusion about that card; not sure that it supports compiz 3D
[09:35] <magnetron> mikedoty: why does video card manufacturers suck so bad at making linux drivers?
[09:35] <Amaranth> mikedoty: the infrastructure is being fixed and at least intel will rock by the end of the year, then we just need the ati/radeon driver to get there too and nvidia to write a better driver
[09:35] <bazhang> icesword: pm?
[09:35] <Amaranth> gooody: you can't use compiz
[09:36] <Peddy> ifireball, you there?
[09:36] <gooody> ok. thank you for your help sirs.
[09:36] <irelinquish> compiz is probably the reason he switched to linux : o
[09:36] <mikedoty> When I run Envy it tells me either my card (Geforce 7100) isn't supported, or hardwarecheck failed.
[09:36] <akatsuki> lol a lot of people are amazed about compiz
[09:36] <mikedoty> If it's hardwarecheck failure, can I do something to fix that?
[09:36] <gooody> it's not the compiz.
[09:37] <akatsuki> i dont found compiz very functional to be honest
[09:37] <irelinquish> akatsuki, did you see my pm?
[09:37] <akatsuki> yes i answer u
[09:37] <icesword> it is amazing！i am amazed!
[09:37] <gooody> it's the features and the help of people like you.
[09:37] <icesword> it is amazing！i am amazed!
[09:37] <irelinquish> no you didnt?
[09:37] <bazhang> gooody: if you have other issues please feel free to ask; we never leave ;]
[09:37] <irelinquish> not on my end
[09:37] <Peddy> bazhang: are you God?
[09:37] <lopin> Is there anyway I can set a swf as a wallpaper?
[09:37] <irelinquish> compiz has awesome zooooooooming
[09:37] <irelinquish> for my hdtv
[09:38] <bazhang> lopin not sure about swf but some video yes
[09:38] <gooody> bazhang: ok. thanks a lot sir for the help.
[09:38] <akatsuki> irelinquish did u recieve my pm back
[09:38] <akatsuki> ?
[09:38] <irelinquish> nope
[09:38] <lopin> I have a SWF of Hal, and it's not that big, or resource intensive...  How would I set up a video to run as my wallpaper?
[09:38] <akatsuki> im typing there
[09:38] <akatsuki> thats weird
[09:38] <bazhang> akatsuki: you need to register to pm back
[09:39] <brian_> In 7.10, is there a way to get rid of the log on screen, and just have it automatically log me in to the only account? Similiar to WinXP, if theres only one, not password protected account, when you boot up, it automatically signs into that account?
[09:39] <irelinquish> ahh, true
[09:39] <akatsuki> where?
[09:39] <akatsuki> do i register
[09:39] <irelinquish> akatsuki, its like /msg nickserv register email password
[09:39] <Seveas> !refister > akatsuki
[09:39] <irelinquish> or the other way around
[09:39] <bazhang> !register | akatsuki
[09:39] <ubotu> akatsuki: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[09:39] <gooody> how can i install printer drivers for ubuntu gutsy?
[09:40] <windowshasyou> dumb question about aptitude, is the option dist-upgrade for upgrading the distro?
[09:40] <bazhang> gooody: normally connecting the printer will do it; have you tried that?
[09:40] <irelinquish> gooody, do you ever look for your own answers?
[09:40] <bazhang> windowshasyou: to the next version yes
[09:40] <irelinquish> like gooooogle
[09:40] <windowshasyou> bazhang: thanx
[09:40] <akatsuki> where do i register my nickname
[09:41] <akatsuki> i cant found the option
[09:41] <bazhang> irelinquish: please dont recommend that here; they know about google thanks
[09:41] <brian_> !register | akatsuki
[09:41] <ubotu> akatsuki: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[09:41] <irelinquish> you have to type /msg nickserv register email password
[09:41] <irelinquish> in the same place you type text
[09:41] <ifireball> windowshasyou: not really
[09:42] <Jordan_U> windowshasyou, Yes, but in Ubuntu you should use do-release-upgrade or use update-manager
[09:42] <akatsuki> !register | akatsuki
[09:42] <ifireball> windowshasyou: if you;ve set your sources.list to point to the next version's repo then it will
[09:43] <ari_stres1> hi all
[09:43] <ifireball> windowshasyou: otherwise it'll just install update more aggressively (E.g. remove older packages in they're in the way)
[09:43] <effeietsanders> Hi all. I tried to get my microphone working, but got this error message while using the test button in the sound window: "Failed to construct test pipeline for 'gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat'"
[09:43] <ari_stres1> if i create a second user in my gutsy, will he be able to use sudo?
[09:43] <windowshasyou> ifireball: thats what i did, just wanted to make sure i wasn't going to screw it up too badly before i pressed yes
[09:43] <Lamego> brian_, check the gdm configuration, Systems -> Admin -> Login window
[09:43] <akatsuki> anyway.... thanks ireliquish.. which kind of information you need?
[09:43] <effeietsanders> The audio works fine here in GG, and the microphone more or less worked too on Windows before
[09:43] <brian_> Lamego: Thanks, I'll try that, one sec
[09:43] <akatsuki> let me know whatever u need please
[09:43] <Lamego> ari_stres1, you need to add it to the admin group
[09:43] <ifireball> windowshasyou: why arn't you using the GUI?
[09:44] <gooody> i tried but i have not found it. i tried to visit epson site but it don't have drivers for linux.
[09:44] <irelinquish> ari_stres1, try it out
[09:44] <ari_stres1> Lamego: so by default the second user cannot do system administration at all, even from gui?
[09:44] <Lamego> ari_stres1, unless you add it to the admin group, no
[09:44] <Jordan_U> windowshasyou, You should NOT use aptitude to upgrade to a new release
[09:44] <irelinquish> what wireless card you have?
[09:45] <windowshasyou> jordan_U: what should i use then?
[09:45] <ari_stres1> Lamego: that's great. he isn't allowed at all :D
[09:45] <Jordan_U> windowshasyou, Use do-release-upgrade or use update-manager,
[09:45] <windowshasyou> k
[09:45] <Jordan_U> windowshasyou, Do not change your sources.list manually to change the release, if you have already revert it
[09:46] <brian_> Lamego: "Enable Automatic Login"?
[09:46] <Lamego> brian_, yes
[09:46] <brian_> Lamego: :) Thankyou!
[09:46] <irelinquish> akatsuki, run this for me  lspci | grep Broadcom\ Corporation
[09:46] <__doc__> #ubuntu+1
[09:46] <__doc__> ups
[09:46] <gooody> i don't have the GUI for my printer settings and maintenance. i'm running epson stylus photo R210.
[09:46] <__doc__> äh moin
[09:47] <fx|RabBit> i have a  multiboot environment with windows, ubuntu, etch and lenny for testing purposes and all works but lenny which drops the following error: http://www.nopaste.org/p/aSXWJ6gXG how can i possibly solve this?
[09:47] <akatsuki> 01:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 02)
[09:47] <__doc__> can somebody point me in the right direction how xorg/debian/ubuntu figure out a monitors setting (if detected)
[09:48] <simplexio> fx|RabBit: my quess is that that kernel iamge is broken
[09:48] <irelinquish> ok give me a minute
[09:48] <kium> hey all... I want to format the drivers the i installed on them the ubuntu? but windows show only F without E
[09:48] <kium> hot do i format E also
[09:48] <ifireball> fx|RabBit: its unrelated, but have you considered virtualization?
[09:48] <simplexio> fx|RabBit: or path isnt right
[09:48] <effeietsanders> Hi, I got this error while testing my microphone using the test button in the sound window: "Failed to construct test pipeline for 'gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! " -- could anyone give me a hand here?
[09:48] <fx|RabBit> simplexio: how could that possibly happen?
[09:48] <ari_stres1> __doc__: what do you mean?
[09:48] <bazhang> gooody: the gutenprint drivers support that printer
[09:48] <fx|RabBit> ifireball: isnt worth the effort, and i need to run it on the hardware directly
[09:48] <Lamego> kium, you will need to delete and create those partitions from windows, try ##windows
[09:49] <simplexio> fx|RabBit: well you point to it by /dev/sdx, try use uuids
[09:49] <kium> k thnx
[09:49] <akatsuki> ok irelinquish thx a lot dude
[09:49] <akatsuki> i wait
[09:49] <murrayc_> effeietsanders: Sounds like this:
[09:49] <murrayc_> http://www.murrayc.com/blog/permalink/2008/03/19/getting-my-microphone-to-work/
[09:49] <simplexio> fx|RabBit: those /dev/sdx mappings can change from boot to boot
[09:49] <murrayc_> effeietsanders: I never found a solution.
[09:49] <FloodBot1> murrayc_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:49] <irelinquish> akatsuki, http://invaleed.wordpress.com/2007/11/20/install-bcm94311mcg-wlan-mini-pci-ubuntu-710/
[09:49] <fx|RabBit> simplexio: I have tripplechecked the paths and there are 2 different kernel images that both dont work...
[09:49] <murrayc_> FloodBot1: You are a pedant.
[09:49] <fx|RabBit> simplexio: humm good point, ill try that, thx!
[09:50] <irelinquish> all i did was search you wireless card + ubuntu
[09:50] <brian_> If I'm setting up a server in Ubuntu, do I need to set up anything other then the server software itself? Does Ubuntu have a firewall I need to open ports in, or something else like that?
[09:50] <irelinquish> and people had success with that
[09:50] <simplexio> fx|RabBit: like this /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24.4-custom-26032008 root=UUID=47bdd2b1-5804-4432-859a-4590582dbee7
[09:50] <__doc__> ari_stres1: I need a modline for a monitor that doesn't send an edid, I know the model of that monitor is well supported by X, I just don't know where to get the modeline from.
[09:50] <Lamego> brian_, no, the default firewall does not block anything
[09:50] <bazhang> brian_: iptables is the default
[09:50] <SvdB> When updating linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic, I get a "/usr/sbin/mkinitramfs: invalid option -- u". This screw up my /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic, rendering my system unbootable. possibly relevant: I have an encrypted root fs.
[09:51] <fx|RabBit> simplexio: yeah i know what you mean, ubuntu did the entry like that but etch and lenny took the paths...
[09:51] <SvdB> any suggestions?
[09:51] <akatsuki> thx a lot ireliwuish
[09:51] <simplexio> fx|RabBit: and i would consider virtualbox and others
[09:51] <akatsuki> irelinquish
[09:51] <akatsuki> i will check it out
[09:51] <akatsuki> brb
[09:51] <irelinquish> of coarse, akatski
[09:51] <irelinquish> google my nick if you need me again
[09:51] <fx|RabBit> simplexio: as i mentioned before i need direct hw access...
[09:51] <irelinquish> i'm going to sleep now
[09:51] <mikedoty> what is that one command?  sudo dkpg-reconfig xorg-xconfig, what is it exactly?
[09:51] <x1250> dpkg-reconfigure
[09:52] <neeto> mikedoty: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:52] <x1250> xserver-xorg
[09:52] <fx|RabBit> simplexio: i am testing webcams and other equip for my uni institute..
[09:52] <mikedoty> Ok, thanks
[09:52] <simplexio> fx|RabBit: ok.. btw.. i think you can copy those uuids from ubuntu isntall
[09:52] <bazhang> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg mikedoty
[09:52] <fx|RabBit> simplexio: wouldnt that boot ubuntu then? gg
[09:52] <cew_altis> lk
[09:52] <simplexio> fx|RabBit: non commercial job? virtualbox support real usb
[09:53] <fx|RabBit> simplexio:  btw is there any command to let grub search the existent partitions again and create a new menu.lst?
[09:53] <gooody> bazhang: i have already printed using ubuntu gutsy but i want the GUI for the printer settings, maintenance and ink level monitoring.
[09:53] <Lamego> fx|RabBit, update-grub
[09:53] <fx|RabBit> simplexio: so to speak yeah:)
[09:54] <fx|RabBit> Lamego: ah yeah thx
[09:54] <bazhang> gooody: aha; not sure if they support that--epson is not to be confused with hp in their linux support of printers
[09:54] <neeto> Whenever I plug in my ipod, my computer recognizes it as a different device file in deb... sometimes it's /dev/sdh2 sometimes it's /dev/sdg2 and so on... therefore, I can't really put it in fstab, because fstab (as far as I know) requires that the mount point for the device being mounted in /media always be the same. Is there another way to detect which device is the ipod and mount it at...
[09:54] <neeto> .../media/ipod every time it's connected?
[09:54] <bazhang> neeto: newest ipod?
[09:54] <neeto> bazhang: 5.5g
[09:54] <gooody> bazhang: ohh i see.
[09:55] <Creationist> What program do I need to determine what my motherboard model is?
[09:55] <Creationist> ...and sound card, actually?
[09:55] <fx|RabBit> Lamego: simplexio: ok, grub-update just recons the partition that i am working with, how do i do that so it alo searches the other partitions?
[09:55] <Lamego> Creationist, if the souncard is pci, lspci
[09:55] <bazhang> neeto: you might want to wait a couple of weeks for next release when 0.6.0 libgpod is included by default for that--otherwise need to compile if for gutsy (gtkpod etc)
[09:55] <simplexio> fx|RabBit: that commervial version of vbox (which is free for non-commervial use) supports "usb passthrought". i have used it to conenct my tomtom one to windows, in virtualized windows tha navigator works like it would be native
[09:56] <mikedoty> I am getting this error:  " trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/nvidia-xconfig', which is also in package nvidia-xconfig"
[09:56] <mikedoty> What do I do to fix that?
[09:56] <Lamego> fx|RabBit, I hade the idea it would do it by default
[09:56] <simplexio> fx|RabBit: dont know, i haven't used update-grub.
[09:56] <Creationist> Lamego: How about my motherboard?  I have onboard ethernet that I need to get working.
[09:56] <DistroJockey> neeto: maybe  blkid  and an entry in  /etc/mtab  ?
[09:57] <unop__> neeto, removable devices are best managed by the gnome-volume-manager -- and entries in fstab are usually only processed on startup -- anyway. you can look into a udev-rule to force your device to be something like /dev/ipod
[09:57] <fx|RabBit> simplexio: yeh i am aware of that, but i also need direct ccess to sound and video, skype, ya know...:)
[09:57] <unop__> !udev rules | neeto
[09:57] <ubotu> neeto: Ever wanted to make your USB-stick /dev/usbstick? Go to http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html to learn more about this feature.
[09:57] <neeto> bazhang: I have gtkpod installed, I'm not worried about file transfers so much as it always being mounted in /media/ipod rather than some computer-assigned temp entry in /media like /media/disk-1 or something
[09:57] <Lamego> Creationist, lshw
[09:57] <fx|RabBit> Lamego: naw unfortunately it doesn't, only finds the part that i am working on
[09:57] <bazhang> neeto you have it working then? ah cheers
[09:57] <neeto> unop_: Thanks
[09:57] <simplexio> fx|RabBit: /dev/disk/by-uuid tell you uuids
[09:58] <neeto> bazhang: gtkpod works fine, I just want my ipod to always be mounted in the same place.
[09:58] <neeto> DistroJockey: thanks
[09:58] <Creationist> Lamego: No, that doesn't show the model number I need to locate my motherboard at the manufacturer's website.
[09:58] <gooody> anyone familiar with printing problems in OpenOffice.org word processor? the print preview is not the same with the printed document.
[09:58] <DistroJockey> neeto: np. Not sure if it will work, but it may be worth a look
[09:58] <fx|RabBit> simplexio: genius! thanx so much gg
[09:58] <gooody> the top margin is quite large.
[09:59] <neeto> DistroJockey: I'll try it out and let you know
[09:59] <unop__> bazhang, there are some .debs for libgpod-0.6 in the PPA repositories
[09:59] <icesword> gooody, ya,that is ooo isue.not ubuntu,okay/
[09:59] <simplexio> gooody: noticed yesterday that when choosing paper from printer settings to S4 dosent affect if document properties isnt set to same
[09:59] <DistroJockey> neeto: cool, good luck
[10:00] <gooody> oh sorry.
[10:00] <simplexio> gooody: dont know if that
[10:00] <neeto> DistroJockey: how to I get the blkid of the ipod?
[10:00] <effeietsanders> i'm sorry, Ubuntu dropped dead :)
[10:01] <neeto> DistroJockey: or any device for that matter
[10:01] <DistroJockey> neeto: blkid /dev/whatever
[10:01] <unop__> neeto, gnome should usually always mount your ipod in /media/<ipodsname> .. unless the directory already exists (from a previous improper unmount)
[10:01] <vinboy> hi
[10:01] <vinboy> how do i use suspend to RAM?
[10:01] <DistroJockey> neeto: while sudo'd
[10:01] <Creationist> My motherboard is an older Intel desktop board and I need to figure out what the model number is.... how would I do this?
[10:01] <mikedoty> Ok, removing nvidia-xconfig did the trick on that.  Small victories
[10:02] <neeto> unop_: Well sometimes it doesn't automatically mount it, and just for my own personal use, I want to make it be mounted here.
[10:02] <gooody> how can i remove junk files? specially hidden files left after uninstalling rogram.
[10:02] <neeto> DistroJockey: righto
[10:03] <selig5>  Creationist: open the case and look for a model number on the motherboard
[10:03] <effeietsanders> can anyone help me with this error? -- Failed to construct test pipeline for 'gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat'
[10:03] <icesword> gooody, rm -r /?
[10:03] <DistroJockey> neeto: always worth checking the man page for any command you are not sure about :)
[10:03] <Creationist> selig5: I mean with software...
[10:03] <Lamego> icesword, uh ?
[10:04] <unop__> icesword, don't suggest that
[10:04] <effeietsanders> the error is coming up when I try to test my sound capture
[10:04] <icesword> Lamego, huh,any ideas
[10:04] <effeietsanders> sound playback seems to workfine
[10:04] <gooody> i guess it's for reformatting the drive right?
[10:04] <Lamego> icesword, yes, to start, the best idea, is to not provide dangerous commands !!!!
[10:04] <neeto> DistroJockey: yessir. how would I add this blkid to mtab? using blkid UUID="" TYPE="vfat"?
[10:04] <icesword> i didn't use sudo and -f ,hehehe
[10:04] <unop__> gooody, don't follow iceword's advice there
[10:04] <DistroJockey> neeto: that part I am not familiar with, sorry
[10:05] <Lamego> neeto, you are not expected to manually edit mtab
[10:05] <fx|RabBit> simplexio: i still got the same error with the uuid, can i really be that two kernel images brake ath the same time??
[10:05] <Lamego> mtab is dynamicaly managed by the system mounter
[10:06] <neeto> Lamego: I am not expected, or I shouldn't? I am no stranger to editing config files...
[10:06] <DistroJockey> Lamego: neeto: ohh, fair enough. Sorry to have mislead. :(
[10:06] <Lamego> neeto, you shouldn't, mtab is not a config file
[10:06] <Lamego> i mean, it's a runtime config file, not persistent
[10:06] <neeto> Lamego: alright cool DistroJockey: no worries.
[10:07] <chrisLAbeard> hey guys
[10:07] <neeto> I guess I'll write the udev entry like someone was talking about before
[10:07] <simplexio> fx|RabBit: does ubuntu work ? it uses uuids so it should work
[10:07] <guest> i need help-i just installed ubuntu on a pc, i choose widescreen. now when it boots i cannot see anything when xserver starts.is there a way to reconfigure xorg with a command?
[10:08] <michi> hi :)
[10:08] <fx|RabBit> simplexio: just fine, so does windows and etch, only the 4 lenny entries dont
[10:08] <DistroJockey> neeto: that udev stuff unop_ mentioned is worth a read. Not looked at it much yet, but it probably does what you need
[10:08] <neeto> DistroJockey: yeah, I'm reading it now.
[10:08] <chrisLAbeard> what is the ubuntu off topic chat channel
[10:09] <PriceChild> youtube has thrown a funny and decided to cause my firefox to crash, taking my sound with it.. how do i get it back without restarting?
[10:09] <Flannel> chrisLAbeard: #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:09] <chrisLAbeard> Flannel: thanks
[10:09] <fx|RabBit> chrisLAbeard: äubuntu-offtopic
[10:09] <ace_ace121> I have an Ubuntu 7.10 Gutsy.. My PC runs way slow than when i installed it.. Is there any way restore my old settings?? top and system-monitor does not show any process taking too much of memory or CPU
[10:09] <guest> can someone plz help me? i am in a hurry.... sorry guys..
[10:09] <icesword> !info sysv-rc-conf
[10:09] <ubotu> Package sysv-rc-conf does not exist in gutsy
[10:10] <gooody> how can i remove junk files left after uninstalling programs?
[10:10] <fx|RabBit> guest: it could help if you ask a question
[10:10] <guest> i need help-i just installed ubuntu on a pc, i choose widescreen. now when it boots i cannot see anything when xserver starts.is there a way to reconfigure xorg with a command?
[10:10] <Flannel> gooody: what sorts of junk files?
[10:10] <DistroJockey> ace_ace121: what runs or loads slow?
[10:10] <SliMM> how can i work wit .rar archives using ubuntu's archive manager
[10:10] <neeto> unop_: Where do I write udev rules?
[10:10] <SliMM> ?
[10:10] <DistroJockey> ace_ace121: and are somethings ok and others not?
[10:10] <effeietsanders> can anyone help me with this error? -- Failed to construct test pipeline for 'gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat'
[10:10] <effeietsanders> the error is coming up when I try to test my sound capture
[10:10] <effeietsanders> sound playback seems to workfine
[10:11] <fx|RabBit> gooody: apt-get autoclean /autoremove
[10:11] <ace_ace121> DistroJockey, almost everything
[10:11] <redheat> hi everyone
[10:11] <gooody> Flannel: hidden folders of programs left after it was installed.
[10:11] <SvdB> When updating linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic, I get a "/usr/sbin/mkinitramfs: invalid option -- u". This screw up my /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic, rendering my system unbootable. possibly relevant: I have an encrypted root fs. Any suggestions?
[10:11] <Flannel> gooody: The stuff in your homedir you just have to delete manually
[10:11] <ace_ace121> i open terminal and it pops up after ~ 15 secs
[10:11] <unop__> neeto, under /etc/udev -- probably one of the files under /etc/udev/rules.d/
[10:11] <redheat> I have just installed KDE4 on my machine and I've installed compiz fusion..but it doesn't seem to work under KDE4, yet it works perfectly under gnome...
[10:11] <PriceChild> youtube has thrown a funny and decided to cause my firefox to crash, taking my sound with it.. how do i get it back without restarting?
[10:11] <DistroJockey> ace_ace121: like a terminal opening takes 5 secs or so?
[10:11] <neeto> unop__: gotcha thanks
[10:11] <redheat> all of course are on ubuntu 7.10
[10:12] <ace_ace121> DistroJockey, true
[10:12] <SliMM> hmm, installing unrar was the key to success
[10:12] <DistroJockey> ace_ace121: when you do a sudo apt-get upgrade are there errors?
[10:12] <sluimers> hi, my second (C++ version) and third (Flex version) Eclipse's can't find the Java virtual machine and therefor cannot run, where can I configure it so that it does find it?
[10:13] <guest> i need help-i just installed ubuntu on a pc, i choose widescreen. now when it boots i cannot see anything when xserver starts.is there a way to reconfigure xorg with a command?
[10:13] <unop__> icesword, you can use a combination of dpkg -L and dpkg -S to find out which package that file exists in - dpkg -S sysv-rc-conf
[10:13] <gooody> Flannel: are there any ways to uninstall a program completely?
[10:13] <icesword> unop__, thx,
[10:13] <unop__> gooody, sudo aptitude purge package
[10:13] <Flannel> gooody: Yes, "complete" removal in synaptic, or apt-get remove --purge with apt get.  But they won't remove stuff from your homedir
[10:14] <ace_ace121> DistroJockey, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[10:14] <redheat> guys, can anyone help me...
[10:14] <ct529> hi everybody
[10:14] <DistroJockey> ace_ace121: oh, k. Not the issue I was thinking of :(
[10:14] <redheat> compiz fusion is not runnig on kde4, does anyone know why?
[10:14] <ct529> has anyone been successfull in using conexant d330 modem with ubuntu 7.10?
[10:15] <gooody> Flannel: i see. manually delete the files are the only solution for this i guess.
[10:15] <ct529> redheat: uses kwin
[10:15] <DistroJockey> ace_ace121: what did you mean by restore you old settings?
[10:15] <secureT> hi is it possible to make something like a shortcut for a certain harddrive, because under windows my harddrive is called f:/   but under ubuntu it's something else, and i want it under ubuntu to be called f:/ too so that some of windows programms work better.
[10:15] <redheat> ct529, what's kwin?
[10:16] <redheat> does it have a separate graphics manager of its own you mean?
[10:16] <Lamego> secureT, on linux there are no letter:, just mount points
[10:16] <gooody> "sudo aptitude purge package" what is the use of this?
[10:16] <ace_ace121> DistroJockey, any other way to check ??
[10:17] <Lamego> if you are going to run programs with wine, you can setup wine drive letters to directories
[10:17] <redheat> ct529, are you there...
[10:17] <DistroJockey> ace_ace121: for reference, this is the issue I was thinking of:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=566700
[10:17] <bazhang> thanks for the info unop__
[10:17] <redheat> does anyone know why is compizfusion not running on kde4
[10:17] <secureT> Lamego:  but something like a shortcut, that can be called f:
[10:17] <ace_ace121> DistroJockey, to get it work normal
[10:17] <selig5> guest: You need to edit /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[10:17] <Lamego> secureT, that will not help you with any software
[10:17] <unop__> bazhang, errm, i forgot what i said to you .. what was it again? :)
[10:18] <bazhang> the libgpod deb unop__ ;]
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> redheat: you can runboth. kde4 is still not fully used by all apps
[10:19] <unop__> bazhang, ahh yea, :) no probs
[10:19] <DistroJockey> ace_ace121: does that forum thread look like it relates to your issue at all?
[10:19] <ct529> redheat: the kde4 alernative to compiz
[10:20] <ct529> has anyone been successfull in using conexant d330 modem with ubuntu 7.10?
[10:20] <ace_ace121> DistroJockey, No.
[10:20] <Chioda83> No, sorry
[10:20] <jaggy> how to install kd4 in ubuntu?
[10:20] <DistroJockey> ace_ace121: what did you have before ubuntu?
[10:20] <bazhang> jaggy: kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[10:21] <jaggy> bazhang, just apt-get that?
[10:21] <ace_ace121> DistroJockey, I have dual boot Ubuntu + Vista.. I had only vista b4
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> jaggy: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/01/14/five-steps-to-install-kde-40-in-ubuntu-710/
[10:21] <jaggy> ty
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> jaggy: not all apps use the libs yet so you'll have kde3.5 libs as well. depends how much space you have spare
[10:22] <jaggy> ActionParsnip, no worries, i got allot of freespace left :p
[10:22] <gooody> can i ask problems related to install/uninstallation of other softwares here? ktorrent in specific.
[10:22] <DistroJockey> ace_ace121: ahh, k. Well if Vista works, ubuntu should fly :) But I'm not sure why yours doesn't :(
[10:22] <Chioda83> Has anyone set up successfully a LAN-connected  HP Photosmart C5180 on ubuntu 7.10
[10:22] <GunbladeIV> hi cin
[10:23] <ph8> hey all - can i press like shift ctrl+c or something to just copy a window? rather than the entire screen?
[10:23] <ph8> or shift print screen
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> Chioda83: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-PhotoSmart_C5180
[10:23] <ph8> something like that :p
[10:23] <noob-africa> hi all
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> !hi | noob-africa
[10:23] <ubotu> noob-africa: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[10:23] <kane77> ph8, alt + printscreen
[10:23] <Chioda83> Thank you ActionParsnip !!!
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> Chioda83: i just googled, you should try it sometime
[10:24] <noob-africa> can someone assist me mount a flash disk that was improperly disconnected on an ntfs machine?
[10:24] <maek> New version of Compiz ... hope this will be in Hardy: http://guillaume.segu.in/blog/home/114/compiz-fusion-074-out/
[10:24] <noob-africa> thanks ActionParsnip
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> noob-africa: try sudo modprobe usb-storage
[10:25] <ace_ace121> DistroJockey, Infact my vista also runs slow.. I switched to Ubuntu and it was pretty fast at the beginning..
[10:25] <fx|RabBit> noob-africa: ubuntu gives you an error message when trying to mount that one, in that message it explains how to ofrce mount the drive
[10:25] <icesword> ActionParsnip, ohhhh,you are busy here
[10:25] <gooody> how can i remove flashdrive in ubuntu gutsy?
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> ice
[10:25] <DistroJockey> ace_ace121: what sort of hardware?
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> icesword: lil bit but i jump between, tabbed IRC is ace
[10:25] <ph8> cheers kane77 !
[10:26] <noob-africa> fx|RabBit: i wasnt able to see the device... so i couldnt mount it even with the force option
[10:26] <noob-africa> ActionParsnip: modprobe produces no results
[10:26] <ace_ace121> DistroJockey, you mean my hardware config?
[10:26] <Lamego> goody, unmount it, use the desktop icon
[10:26] <fx|RabBit> noob-africa: you get no error when plugging that drive in?
[10:26] <DistroJockey> ace_ace121: e.g. laptop/desktop, cpu, video, RAM
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> noob-africa: good. then if you fdisk -l you should see the /dev that points to the stick
[10:27] <noob-africa> fx|RabBit: yea... no error
[10:27] <ace_ace121> DistroJockey, laptop 1.7 core2duo , 256 video , 1GB
[10:27] <bazhang> PriceChild: what addons do you have for firefox? also, you might try starting firefox from the terminal and/if it crashes report the errors here; this is gutsy and ff2 correct?
[10:27] <fx|RabBit> noob-africa: in that case i hand over to ActionParsnip, hehe
[10:27] <DistroJockey> ace_ace121: should be fine on that. Must be a config or driver issue.
[10:28] <noob-africa> ActionParsnip: error produced > Disk /dev/sdc doesn't contain a valid partition table
[10:28] <bazhang> PriceChild: I found some of my addons were outdated or problematic and disabling them fixed the youtube probs I was having
[10:28] <gooody> Lamego: i tried it but lights are still blinking. lights stop blinking when unmounted in windows XP.
[10:28] <ace_ace121> DistroJockey, any way to detect that?
[10:28] <happyfeet>  irc.r3blog.nl
[10:28] <PriceChild> bazhang: ff3 ;) Gave in and restarted. Nothing would play, even rhythmbox etc, nothing occupying it from what i could see though.
[10:29] <Lamego> goody, it is unmounted regarldess of the led status
[10:29] <DistroJockey> ace_ace121: You said it was fast at the beginning and then slowed down. Happen to remember what you did between it being fast and being slow?
[10:29] <bazhang> PriceChild: then I suspect pulseaudio and we should be in #ubuntu+1 ;]
[10:29] <noob-africa> ActionParsnip: the flash disk has some key data that someone wants to retrieve... <I> didnt remove it improperly from the Windows PC that was accessing it
[10:29] <ace_ace121> DistroJockey, Not exactly. Guess it was gradual,..
[10:30] <DistroJockey> ace_ace121: nods
[10:30] <noob-africa> DistroJockey: hi... its friday... how many beers have u had, yet? lol
[10:30] <gooody> Lamego: is it safe to remove it?
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> noob-africa: if the data is there then its fine. you need to find the /dev that points to it so we can mount it
[10:30] <DistroJockey> noob-africa: hehe, vodka today, on my second ;)
[10:30] <DistroJockey> noob-africa: How's things with you?
[10:31] <noob-africa> ActionParsnip: the fdisk command produced this report > Disk /dev/sdc doesn't contain a valid partition table
[10:31] <Lamego> gooody, yes
[10:31] <DistroJockey> ace_ace121: I can only really suggest a re-install. Someone else may have some ideas though.
[10:31] <noob-africa> DistroJockey: am ok... raining a lot up here... how's the land down under?
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> noob-africa: ahhhh. What if you put it in the first system?
[10:31] <ace_ace121> DistroJockey, Ok.
[10:31] <noob-africa> ActionParsnip: how?
[10:31] <gooody> Lamego: thanks a lot.
[10:31] <DistroJockey> noob-africa: rather pleasant actually :)
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> plug it into the system you first took it out of
[10:32] <PriceChild> bazhang: there is a firefox3 package for gutsy ;)
[10:32] <noob-africa> ActionParsnip: u mean the windows PC? it's a laptop, and not located within this building... it's somewhere several kilometres away
[10:32] <bazhang> PriceChild: ah sorry my mistake--on ubuntu+1 here
[10:32] <sluimers> hi, my second (C++ version) and third (Flex version) Eclipse's can't find the Java virtual machine and therefor cannot run, where can I configure it so that it does find it?
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> noob-africa: hmm, got a windows pc?
[10:33] <noob-africa> ActionParsnip: do u suggest we put it in a different PC?
[10:33] <fx|RabBit> noob-africa: best plug it to the one where you didnt remove it properly!
[10:33] <Lamego> sluimers, have you installed the sun's jre ?
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> noob-africa: yeah cos it might be able to chkdsk/f the disk and repair it
[10:33] <noob-africa> fx|RabBit: this means that the owner has to go back home for this.... lol
[10:34] <fx|RabBit> noob-africa: but i seriously doubt that would help fith finding a non exstent partition table...
[10:34] <fx|RabBit> noob-africa: if that is so, then yes, hehehe
[10:34] <sluimers> Lamego, sure
[10:34] <sluimers> my first eclipse runs, no problem there
[10:35] <sluimers> it's just that the other two are not looking at the right place for the jvm/jre.. whatever
[10:36] <Lamego> sluimers, check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EclipseIDE
[10:37] <DistroJockey> noob-africa: you get my PM?
[10:37] <damo22> noob-africa: sudo apt-get install testdisk
[10:37] <damo22> noob-africa: you can search for lost partitions
[10:38] <Sardukar_> Hi all
[10:38] <Sardukar_> Does anyone have any problems with VPN connections and Ubuntu Gutsy?
[10:38] <DistroJockey> damo22: was going to suggest that too. Looks like a nice tool, not needed to use it yet though.
[10:38] <Sardukar_> Does anyone have any problems with VPN connections and Ubuntu Gutsy? They seem to disconnect silently after 10 minutes, although VPN manager still thinks it is connected to the VPN
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> Sardukar_: what are you creating the connection with?
[10:39] <olaff> hey all, how can i make teh default size for thumbnails of pictures be as small as posisble?
[10:39] <Sardukar_> ActionParsnip: VPN Connection Manager
[10:39] <Sardukar_> PPP generic
[10:40] <Sardukar_> The VPN connection will hold essentially forever on Windows on the same PC
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> Sardukar_: are you fully updated?
[10:40] <sluimers> Lamego, thanks, but my second and third version are not using java_home to find the jvm/jre
[10:40] <Sardukar_> ActionParsnip: certainly
[10:41] <noob-africa> ActionParsnip: guess what... we put the flash on my neighbour's PC... it says the disk in drive F is not formatted!
[10:41] <noob-africa> ActionParsnip: i guess this is the reward one gets for using Windows! data loss!
[10:41] <noob-africa> i learned my lesson!
[10:41] <sluimers> Lamego, this is the error I get by the way: No Java virtual machine
[10:41] <sluimers> was found after searching the following locations: /home/rogier/Programs/flexEclipse/jre/bin/java 'java' in your current PATH
[10:42] <DistroJockey> noob-africa: try testdisk as damo22 suggested and I was about too
[10:42] <Duskin> hey
[10:42] <jpatrick> hey Duskin
[10:42] <DistroJockey> noob-africa: you can't really break it any further
[10:42] <Sardukar__> hi
[10:42] <xukun> .I just installed ubuntu 7.10 with xfs file system but it fails during the grub installation. is there a way to install grub?
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> Sardukar_you connecting to a cisco vpn ?
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> Sardukar_  http://www.spiration.co.uk/post/1293
[10:43] <isplicer> hey all, I am having some trouble using mono to use .net programs
[10:43] <isplicer> i get this error:
[10:43] <Duskin> Ok so i just installed 8.04 and it installed firefox 3 beta4, whats the easiest way to install beta5?
[10:43] <noob-africa> DistroJockey: what's the command suggested by damo22?
[10:43] <isplicer> isplicer@PEGASUS-III:~$ mono '/home/isplicer/Desktop/RatioBlaster.exe'
[10:43] <DistroJockey> xukun: I believe grub doesn't like xfs, you probably need to use lilo
[10:43] <isplicer> The assembly mscorlib.dll was not found or could not be loaded.
[10:43] <isplicer> It should have been installed in the `/usr/lib/mono/2.0/mscorlib.dll' directory.
[10:43] <Sardukar__> ActionParsnip:  no, probably a Microsoft VPN
[10:43] <DJones> !hardy | Duskin
[10:43] <ubotu> Duskin: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[10:43] <isplicer> could someone kindly assist?
[10:43] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 please Duskin
[10:44] <DistroJockey> noob-africa:  sudo apt-get install testdisk
[10:44] <Duskin> ah, ty
[10:44] <maek> question: can you "dual boot" from the login screen different desktops ?? ... like you could select GNOME or KDE ??
[10:44] <Lamego> maek, yes
[10:44] <xukun> DistroJockey, I heard there is a way to install grub by hand
[10:44] <Lamego> but is not clalled "dual boot"
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> maek: you can log off and change your environment
[10:44] <DistroJockey> !grub | xukun
[10:44] <ubotu> xukun: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:44] <Sardukar_> ActionParsnip:  I am going to try use vpnc instead
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> maek: some people do actually dual-boot 2 linux OSes to keep KDE and GNOME seperate
[10:44] <DistroJockey> xukun: the last link may help
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> Sardukar_: http://www.spiration.co.uk/post/1293 found that :)
[10:45] <maek> and does it stuff up your GNOME settings if you install KDE and switch to it ??
[10:45] <DistroJockey> Sardukar_: ActionParsnip: yeah, I like vpnc
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> maek: not at all
[10:45] <Lamego> maek, gnome settings are not related to kde settings
[10:45] <maek> Thats great thankyou ActionParsnip and Lamego
[10:46] <isplicer> could someone kindly help me with my little problem?
[10:46] <isplicer> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4649744#post4649744
[10:47] <maek> isplicer, http://www.dlldump.com/download-dll-files_new.php/dllfiles/M/mscorlib.dll/1.0.3705.6018/download.html
[10:47] <maek> isplicer, then put the .dll in the same directory as the .exe file
[10:47] <Lamego> isplicer, sudo apt-get install libmono-corlib2.0-cil
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> isplicer: get that dll and put it wher eit is needed
[10:48] <Lamego> maek, you are not expected to download dlls windows alike
[10:48] <maek> oh
[10:48] <xukun> DistroJockey, thanks
[10:48] <DistroJockey> xukun: you're welcome. Did the job?
[10:49] <maek> I suppose WINE is very different and will spit out .dlls
[10:49] <noob-africa> DistroJockey: testdisk didnt find any partitions... i guess the flash is a goner!
[10:49] <isplicer> ill try that, thanks
[10:49] <xukun> DistroJockey, not yet
[10:49] <Lamego> but that is not WINE, it's mono
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> noob-africa: run some data recoveryon it
[10:49] <DistroJockey> noob-africa: happens :(
[10:49] <DistroJockey> xukun: nods, good luck
[10:49] <juice> how do i install imon /imedian in ubuntu 7.10 gutsy?
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> noob-africa: what format was the drive?
[10:50] <noob-africa> DistroJockey: btw, i installed RealPlayer yesterday, since then my FileManager doesnt display the minimise-maximise-close icons...
[10:50] <noob-africa> ActionParsnip: NTFS
[10:50] <DistroJockey> noob-africa: you have restarted X since then?
[10:51] <noob-africa> DistroJockey: and there is also a problem with the Title display on my Mozilla and and all windows... the text is really tiny
[10:51] <noob-africa> DistroJockey: yes, i have restarted X twice today
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> noob-africa: just googling a solution. you got a backup of the data?
[10:51] <DistroJockey> noob-africa: I never did like Realplayer, 1 more reason now ;) But no idea sorry.
[10:51] <icesword> goodbye,everyone
[10:52] <icesword> :):p;)
[10:52] <isplicer> guys, sorry but it didnt work, i posted the new error message here, please help, thanks:        http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4649744#post4649744
[10:52] <noob-africa> ActionParsnip: on the flash? i doubt it...
[10:52] <DistroJockey> bye icesword
[10:52] <peter78> I've started to experience system freezes
[10:52] <DistroJockey> snap
[10:52] <noob-africa> ActionParsnip: how would i do a data recovery on it, other than with testdisk? testdisk cant do any data recovery on the flash
[10:52] <peter78> two have occured while watching a TV stream using vlc embedded in firefox, I have recently installed screenlets
[10:53] <DistroJockey> noob-africa: try photorec
[10:54] <DistroJockey> noob-africa: sudo apt-get install photorec
[10:55] <noob-africa> package not found
[10:55] <DistroJockey> noob-africa: ohh, it may de the exact same thing as testdisk
[10:55] <DistroJockey> do the ^
[10:55] <peter78> can anyone help me find the cause of the OS freezes?
[10:55] <DistroJockey> noob-africa: man photorec
[10:55] <noob-africa> DistroJockey: exact command line, pls? :-)
[10:55] <CVD-PR> llegue
[10:56] <noob-africa> DistroJockey: photorec package wasnt found
[10:56] <DistroJockey> noob-africa: k, sec
[10:56] <CVD-PR> maybe some fu*kup .configs in the /home
[10:56] <bazhang> !language | CVD-PR
[10:56] <ubotu> CVD-PR: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[10:56] <CVD-PR> ok sorru
[10:57] <effeietsanders> Hi all. I tried to test my Sound Capture on Ubuntu GG, but I received this error message: Failed to construct test pipeline for 'gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat'
[10:57] <rod> req channel for volunteer programmers
[10:57] <effeietsanders> can anyone help me?
[10:57] <jbug> hey all, I'm using a Live CD (casper-rw) on my USB stick.  I don't want the prompt when I reboot to eject the media
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> noob-africa: http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/05/recover-data-from-damaged-hard-disk.html looks good :)
[10:58] <jbug> is there a boot param noeject or something, like in Knoppix?
[10:58] <jbug> anyone know?
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> effeietsanders: have you googled for an answer?
[10:58] <noob-africa> ActionParsnip: thanks, am on it
[10:58] <DistroJockey> noob-africa: did you try?:  man photorec
[10:58] <CVD-PR> what is the command to run the gears test?
[10:58] <CVD-PR> 3d
[10:58] <jbug> yes
[10:58] <Lamego> glxgears
[10:58] <DJones> CVD-PR, glxgears
[10:58] <CVD-PR> ok
[10:58] <juice> anyone know terminal line to install avant dock?
[10:58] <jbug> googled for ubuntu noeject and i get knoppix results
[10:58] <rod> req channel for volunteer programmers
[10:59] <noob-africa> DistroJockey: yea... it gave me tha man for it
[10:59] <DistroJockey> noob-africa: k
[10:59] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-avant-window-navigator-awn-in-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon.html juice
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> juice: sudo pt-get install avant-window-navigator
[10:59] <noob-africa> DistroJockey: but it's giving me command sequences using testdisk, which i did before
[10:59] <DJones> rod, You're volunteering or asking for volunteers, what language etc, you might be better asking in #freenode as its more of a general question
[11:00] <noob-africa> ActionParsnip: well, avant doesnt work on my system... i wonder why
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> juice: did you google for an answer before asking?
[11:00] <noob-africa> lol
[11:00] <rod> req channel for volunteer skilled programmers recently laid off and willing to contribute to the cause
[11:00] <sluimers> Can anyone help me? My Eclipse can't open because it searches jvm in it's own folder despite java_home saying otherwise, so now my Eclipse can't run.
[11:00] <Lamego> !ot | rod
[11:00] <ubotu> rod: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:00] <rod> oh, thanks DJones
[11:00] <bazhang> rod just hang out here and help answer questions ;]
[11:00] <DistroJockey> noob-africa: yep, they be one and the same it seems
[11:01] <noob-africa> ActionParsnip: i just installed it, it works... hehe
[11:01] <bazhang> juice: awn is not in gutsy repos iirc; you need to follow the link I gave you
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> noob-africa: the tool to recover the data looks cool.give it a go
[11:02] <noob-africa> will be back
[11:02] <noob-africa> ciao folks
[11:02] <isplicer> hey guys, could someone kindly help me with my problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4649744#post4649744
[11:02] <_julian__> hi all
[11:02] <jbug> anyone know if there is a no-eject boot option for the LiveCD, a la knoppix?
[11:02] <bazhang> rod: you also might try #ubuntu-motu
[11:03] <bazhang> jbug does it work when you try it?
[11:03] <_julian__> I just try to configure a ubuntu 6.06lts running in a vmware in a dedicated root server. it is connected through host-only networking. it has the local up 192.168.2.128 and the vmnet1 interface has 192.168.2.1 - both can ping eachother, but the vm can't get access to the net
[11:03] <effeietsanders> blush, trying google now...
[11:04] <_julian__> in /etc/network/interfaces I set gateway 192.168.2.1
[11:04] <_julian__> but route only shows: 192.168.2.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1
[11:04] <jbug> no
[11:04] <erUSUL> _julian__: and the gateaway is configured to act as such??
[11:04] <jbug> it does not
[11:04] <_julian__> so it seems it has no default gateway set
[11:04] <Lamego> isplicer, sudo apt-get install libmono-system2.0-cil
[11:04] <jbug> forget it, I found it:  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/10/17/ubuntu-remove-the-prompt-to-eject-cd/
[11:05] <_julian__> erUSUL: I think it should be. I followed some instructions on the hosters wiki (it's german...)
[11:05] <erUSUL> _julian__: ok
[11:05] <_julian__> shouldn't the route output show something like default 192.168.2.1 ...
[11:05] <_julian__> ?
[11:05] <isplicer> lamego, i have tried that, it doesnt work... I have posted the error here:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=744996, could you please help?
[11:06] <_julian__> or am I wrong with that?
[11:06] <DistroJockey> _julian__: this may be worth a browse:  http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Advanced_Networking_Linux
[11:06] <erUSUL> _julian__: yep "ip route" --> "default via 10.0.0.1 dev wlan0" in my machine
[11:06] <pajamian> _julian__: have you tried restarting the networking daemon?
[11:06] <Lamego> isplicer, erm, It's a difference package now, have you installed this second package ?
[11:07] <_julian__> actually the nat rules I use are:
[11:07] <_julian__> iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING -d 78.47.49.17 -j DNAT --to 192.168.2.128
[11:07] <_julian__> iptables -t nat -I POSTROUTING -s 192.168.2.128 -j SNAT --to 78.47.49.17
[11:07] <isplicer> whoops, sorry lamego, i  installed the new one but still no luck
[11:08] <_julian__> pajamian: you mean /etc/init.d/networking restart? -yep
[11:08] <tobberoth> How do I find where something is installed? I have installed SDL and need to know how to include it
[11:08] <henkdetank> i have extracted files using mpack, but i dont know where they went?? Anybody has a clue?
[11:08] <Lamego> tobberoth, dpkg -L package_name
[11:08] <tobberoth> Lamego: Thank you
[11:08] <tyler_d> how do I trace swap space usage?
[11:08] <thoreauputic> tyler_d,  free -m
[11:08] <pajamian> _julian__: yep, that's what I meant, always check the simple stuff first.
[11:08] <Lamego> tyler_d, free
[11:08] <Frogzoo> tyler_d: swapon -s
[11:09] <erUSUL> _julian__: i'm afraid i'm not really familiar with manually configuring nat rules via iptables...
[11:09] <erUSUL> !ics | _julian__
[11:09] <ubotu> _julian__: If you want to share the internet connection of your ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharing - You may also use !firestarter: http://www.fs-security.com/docs/connection-sharing.php
[11:09] <Ward1983_> i made a USB network connection with my PDA wich is running debian, now i want my laptop to get my pda on the internet, but i cqnt figure out whats going wrong, i did this before and it worked fine, can someone take a look please? im following this tutorial: http://www.postnuklear.de/linuxloox/ (chapter 6)
[11:09] <linux_user400354> i need system-rc-conf for ubuntu. where is it?
[11:10] <tyler_d> sorry, let me be more specific. how do I determine what running program is using what percentage or portion of swap space?
[11:10] <erUSUL> linux_user400354: try rcconf or cli update-rc.d or gui bum
[11:10] <erUSUL> !boot
[11:10] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[11:10] <sluimers> Can anyone help me? My Eclipse can't open because it searches jvm in it's own folder despite java_home saying otherwise, so now my Eclipse can't run.
[11:11] <linux_user400354> bum = no, update-rc.d = lowlevel, rcconf ill look into it. i want to edit runlevels with a nice ncurses interface
[11:11] <_julian__> ok a route add default gw did the routing, at least I can ping ips now... but dns is not working yet
[11:12] <tobberoth> How odd, dpkg -L libsdl1.2debian claims it has only installed files in /usr/share/doc/
[11:12] <tobberoth> How could I possibly run SDL apps with doc files?
[11:15] <Lamego> tobberoth, eventually are looking for the libsdl1.2-dev package ?
[11:15] <unop_> tobberoth, well, what does  dpkg -l | grep -i libsdl say?
[11:15] <dagaka> is there a comic strip viewer for Ubuntu? perhaps similar to the comic strip widget thing in KDE 4
[11:16] <tobberoth> Lamego: No, well, I am going to download -dev since that's what I wanted, but libsdl1.2debian should include the SDL library right? not just doc files for SDL.
[11:17] <Lamego> tobberoth, it's a metapackage, the libsdl is one of the libsdl1.2-*
[11:18] <SliMM> hello
[11:18] <tyler_d> no answers on swap space usage???****cries*****
[11:18] <SliMM> i have a vrand new bluetooth adaptor, what can i use it for and how?
[11:18] <joep> Hi ! I have a short question: which version of Evolution runs under Ubuntu? I'm currently running Fedora (in the process of going over to Ubuntu).
[11:18] <Lamego> tyler_d, scrool up, you got answers
[11:18] <tobberoth> Lamego: Are you sure? Because I installed libsdl1.2debian-all, and all I got was libsdl-image1.2 (which is probably just SDL_image) and libsdl1.2debian-alsa (which is probably just soundrutines)
[11:18] <SliMM> brand*
[11:19] <tyler_d> Lamego: sorry, let me be more specific. how do I determine what running program is using what percentage or portion of swap space?
[11:19] <tyler_d> Lamego: I re-itterated after the answers
[11:20] <Lamego> tobberoth, yes I am sure, the -alsa- package provides libsdl, alsa enabled
[11:20] <joep> tyler_d: use SYstem Monitor.
[11:20] <tobberoth> Lamego: Ah, that explains it :D Thanks a lot
[11:20] <pajamian> tyler_d: I think both PS and top have options to show how much swap space a program is using.
[11:20] <tyler_d> joep: sys monitor only indicates what percentage is used... not what proc is using what percentage
[11:20] <tobberoth> Lamego: Oh one more thing.. Am I to assume i need the -dev package to develop SDL applications, or would that be used to edit SDL itself?
[11:20] <Lamego> tyler_d, check ps RSS versus VSS
[11:21] <tyler_d> Lamego: that sounds interesting... I will do and get back to you.. ty
[11:21] <Lamego> tobberoth, -dev is required to develop SDL apps, there is no such thing as "SDL edit" :)
[11:21] <joep> That's correct but at least you get an indication. Wher do you want to use it for?
[11:21] <kelvin911> hello anyone plays urban error here and get error?
[11:21] <tobberoth> Lamego: Allright, good :) Thank you
[11:21] <krissyafc> I need help.
[11:22] <kelvin911> the game goes to window mode and i have no mouse and no keyboard.  forces me to restart
[11:22] <krissyafc> When WILL 8.0 be ready? *******
[11:22] <elber> oi
[11:22] <elber> iixgvclçk
[11:22] <icesword> 20 days later
[11:23] <pajamian> krissyafc: there will never be an Ubuntu version 8.0
[11:23] <icesword> heheh
[11:23] <Lamego> he means 8.04
[11:23] <joep> tyler_d can you give the Evolution version on Ubuntu (if you're running it now).
[11:23] <pajamian> hehehe, I gathered.
[11:24] <zero_> Hello, im trying to get the little launcher like osx has on mac, can anyone help me out>
[11:24] <Lamego> you mean the awn ?
[11:24] <bazhang> awn zero_?
[11:24] <DistroJockey> krissyafc: check the ubuntu home page
[11:24] <kelvin911> i read that is the screensaver got in the way of the game
[11:25] <zero_> bazhang, yes?
[11:25] <kelvin911> how to disable screensaver?
[11:25] <zero_> bazhang, awn?
[11:25] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-avant-window-navigator-awn-in-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon.html zero_
[11:26] <zero_> thanks bazhang
[11:26] <bazhang> no worries ;]
[11:26] <bazhang> only third time to give that link today ;]
[11:26] <Lamego> :P
[11:26] <kelvin911> is there a way to run urban terror with screensaver off?
[11:26] <SliMM> what should i do with this: Keep in mind, in order to use LiNXT you must have Device::USB installed
[11:26] <SliMM> ?
[11:27] <kelvin911> then when the game ends the screensaver enable again?
[11:27] <knoppix12344234> #?
[11:27] <yaselmane> Hi to all
[11:28] <bazhang> knoppix12344234: this is ubuntu support channel do you have a question?
[11:28] <joep> Well, if nobody uses Evolution I'll look elsewhere. Tahnks.
[11:28] <kelvin911> bazhang: i have a question
[11:29] <genie> Hell everyone
[11:29] <bazhang> SliMM: what is linxt?
[11:29] <genie> how to install realplay in ubuntu 8.4?
[11:29] <kelvin911> bazhang: how to make a script so i can disable the screensaver then run the game then when the game ends, enable screensaver again?
[11:29] <Oyama> lo
[11:29] <knoppix12344234> bazhang: no question, just testing...but thx ;-)
[11:29] <Oyama> i installed ubuntu from the liveCD on my usb stick (/dev/sdb1), asking the installer to not install the boot loader; then i chrooted to the freshly installed system and "apt-get install grub; mkdir /boot/grub; update-grub;". I always had troubles understanding grub, what should i modify in menu.lst and grub-install command should i run to be able to boot on my usb stick from any computer who can boot on usb?
[11:29] <SliMM> bazhang: a program to communicate with lego nxt
[11:30] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for 8.04 questions genie thanks
[11:30] <pajamian> SliMM: is it a perl program?
[11:30] <ritalin> y0
[11:30] <DistroJockey> !realplayer | genie
[11:30] <ubotu> genie: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:30] <ritalin> whats the repo with google earth in it?
[11:30] <SliMM> pajamian: i think it is
[11:31] <ritalin> !googleearth
[11:31] <ubotu> Google Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html - A package for Ubuntu is available in the !Medibuntu repository
[11:31] <bazhang> kelvin911: not sure about that; why not just completely disable the screensaver
[11:31] <ritalin> word
[11:31] <ritalin> ty ubotu
[11:31] <ritalin> !Medibuntu
[11:31] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[11:31] <DistroJockey> :)
[11:31] <Skiessi> !info ubuntu-desktop
[11:31] <ubotu> Package ubuntu-desktop does not exist in gutsy
[11:31] <bazhang> he's a bot ritalin
[11:31] <ritalin> i know
[11:31] <ritalin> he still desevres thanks
[11:31] <ritalin> :D
[11:31] <kelvin911> bazhang: because i would like to have screen turn black when i am not using it
[11:31] <ritalin> !botsnack
[11:31] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[11:31] <bazhang> haha
[11:32] <DistroJockey> ritalin: you can also    /msg ubotu whatyouwanttoknow
[11:32] <kelvin911> bazhang: i guess the only way is to turn off manually
[11:32] <SliMM> pajamian: any idea?
[11:32] <pajamian> well in that case you need to install the Device::USB perl module.  I would normally use CPAN for that if I couldn't find an ubuntu package for it, but someone may have a better way specific to ubuntu to do it.
[11:32] <Skiessi> !info ubuntu-desktop
[11:32] <ubotu> Package ubuntu-desktop does not exist in gutsy
[11:32] <Skiessi> what does ubotu2 do?
[11:33] <bazhang> info commands not working atm Skiessi
[11:33] <SliMM> pajamian: ok, thanks
[11:33] <SliMM> how can i use bluetooth
[11:33] <SliMM> ?
[11:33] <genie> DistroJockey, thanks
[11:33] <DistroJockey> Skiessi: I've only ever seen him/her/it leave ;)
[11:33] <DistroJockey> genie: you're welcome
[11:34] <pajamian> SliMM: the way to do it with CPAN is something like this (untested): sudo perl -MCPAN -e 'install Device::USB'
[11:34] <Skiessi> ok...
[11:34] <genie> I got .deb
[11:34] <pajamian> then just follow the prompts and answer the questions
[11:35] <Daworm> Anyone know anything about EggDrop or EnergyMech ?
[11:35] <Daworm> well at least EnergyMech? I'm trying to find a source I can download to look at it .. but the main site won't load for me.
[11:36] <pajamian> Daworm: tried coral cache or the internet archive?
[11:36] <DistroJockey> genie: Someone earlier broke their system partially due to Realplayer they believe, so good luck
[11:37] <genie> DistroJockey, how can I paly .rm or ram without realplay?
[11:37] <pajamian> genie: w32codecs from medibuntu
[11:37] <Daworm> pajamian, checking coral now (first I heard of it .. seems cool)
[11:37] <Daworm> no route to host :  :(
[11:38] <genie> pajamian, if I install it will allow me play .rm?
[11:38] <DistroJockey> genie: you checked all those links?
[11:38] <pajamian> genie: you running the i386 version of ubuntu?
[11:38] <pajamian> genie: or x64?
[11:38] <genie> pajamian, yes I do on AMD 6400+
[11:38] <DistroJockey> genie: I don't do Realplayer. Sorry
[11:39] <genie> DistroJockey, it's ok man
[11:39] <pajamian> genie: so you're running 32 bit ubuntu?  That's good, then yes, and if you want to use the Totem movie player you will also need the gstreamer0.10-pitfdll package
[11:39] <bazhang> realplayer works fine on gutsy and the next release
[11:40] <DistroJockey> genie: but as ubotu you suggested those links, I assume it knows of a way to play them
[11:40] <DistroJockey> the ubuntu way^
[11:40] <genie> pajamian, just I install 8.4 32 bit, how I install these pakages?
[11:40] <Ace2016> Hi all
[11:40] <pajamian> genie: you need #ubuntu+1 for 8.04 support
[11:40] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 genie
[11:40] <Ace2016> How do i setup a raid1 with only 1 drive? i plan to add to it later
[11:41] <tyler_d> Lamego: still can't find a thing indicating swap usage vs program allocation
[11:41] <pajamian> ...and I have to go, so best of luck.
[11:41] <genie> pajamian, ubuntu+1?
[11:41] <genie> is this a chat room?
[11:41] <pajamian> !hardy | genie
[11:41] <ubotu> genie: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[11:42] <genie> thanks pajamian
[11:42] <pajamian> genie: yw
[11:42] <atomic__> hello, i am using clonezilla/drbl to clone a bunch of 7.10 machines, but the process somehow messed with the swap partitions, here is the output of the free command and the fstab entry, anyone know how can i rectify this?? (http://paste.lisp.org/display/58591)
[11:42] <Lamego> tyler_d, VSZ-RSS should indicate swapped memory
[11:47] <tyler_d> Lamego: couldn't find RSS? however VSZ did show me I think.
[11:48] <peter77> is it possible screenlets are due to my system freezing?
[11:48] <Helix82> Hi ppl i want to know how to activate our lappy's external vga...
[11:49] <bazhang> peter77: try disabling them
[11:49] <mitchell> hi i installed compiz and when enabling it from the visual effects menu my windows managers dissapear and cannot move any windows or nothing
[11:49] <mitchell> anywaone knows whats the prob?
[11:49] <peter77> bazhang, I've dissabled all active screenlets as well as compiz
[11:49] <bazhang> mitchell: install ccsm
[11:49] <Lamego> !ccsm
[11:49] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[11:49] <mitchell> whats that ?
[11:49] <bazhang> mitchell: look up
[11:49] <mitchell> ok thks
[11:50] <bazhang> mitchell: once that is installed check plugin move windows
[11:52] <mitchell> bazhang; can i install it with the apt-get? or from synapthic?
[11:52] <bazhang> mitchell: both work ;]
[11:52] <mitchell> id didnt for me
[11:52] <mitchell> cannot find package
[11:53] <bazhang> mitchell: then enable the repos, hit refresh and try again
[11:53] <Lamego> !repos | mitchell
[11:53] <ubotu> mitchell: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[11:54] <bazhang> peter77 what video card and how did you install drivers?
[11:57] <mitchell> guys i installed ccsm with all the repositories etc but the problem still persist! when I enable it I cannot move windows any more! seems something from the window manager
[11:57] <mitchell> any help?
[11:57] <Nero`> Salut le peuple
[11:58] <Nero`> hi
[11:58] <bazhang> mitchell: go into advanced desktop settings manager and check the plugin move windows
[11:58] <Tester> Hey there, ive bought a new computer today, first thing i done was install Ubuntu 7.10, is it possible to install WinXP even if ive installed Ubuntu first?
[11:58] <mmm4m51> Help: I am new ubuntu user. I am looking for a backup solution (maybe rdiff-backup). I understand about: scheduled backup jobs, regular backup scripts, etc. I have some difficults to achieve my final goals: 1) to take snapshot before "update/install XYZ"; 2) to see changes after update/install; 3) to filter only changed config files; 4) easy to display diff for each file (GUI interface is better). My questions are about points 3) 
[11:58] <mitchell> bazhang ok  ill check
[11:59]  * Nero` lol
[11:59] <lopin> !swftogif
[11:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swftogif - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:59] <bazhang> Tester: sure; though the other way around is easier--you will need to fix grub /msg ubotu grub for info and links on that
[11:59] <Tester> !ubotu grub
[11:59] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:59] <lopin> anyone know a quick way to convert a swf to a gif?
[12:00] <lopin> Or, anything else I can use as a wallpaper?
[12:00] <binarical-app> try gimp
[12:00] <binarical-app> save as different format
[12:01] <DistroJockey> lopin: check out xwinwrap and google convert a swf to a gif
[12:01] <Lamego> I don't think you can open swf with gimp
[12:01] <Nero`> lol
[12:01] <lopin> I thought xwinwrap was to make screensavers into wallpapers?
[12:01] <Tester> ah ok, so id have to resize the current Ubuntu partition, then put the windows CD in, and windows should install into the empty partition?
[12:01] <bazhang> xwinwrap will work indeed lopin though the linux version ;]
[12:01] <mmm4m51> about backup: how to catch all config files? Do I have most of them in 'etc' and 'home' directory? (as new linux user, it is almost black box for me, but anyway I want to backup because this will give me freedom to learn, tests and change)
[12:01] <DistroJockey> lopin: yep and movies, maybe other things
[12:01] <lopin> Well, then...
[12:02] <lopin> That'll work!
[12:04] <mmm4m51> about backup: if I have 2 snapshots and log with changed config files. How can I show list of these files and with "double click" to run kdiff (or similar utility)? Maybe to create folder with sym links to changed files and then some plugin for nautilus to run easily kdiff?
[12:05] <mmm4m51> Help: anyway who could advice me about backup solution is very welcome.
[12:05] <mitchell> bazhang I cannot find that option
[12:05] <peter77> are there any know issues where screenlets cause ubuntu to freeze?
[12:05] <Lamego> peter77, remove them, and check
[12:05] <mitchell> brb
[12:06] <peter77> Lamego, have done, the freezes are random and I have gone hours with them on and nothing
[12:06] <peter77> Lamego, three out of four freezes I were running VLC watching a tv stream
[12:06] <erUSUL> !backup | mmm4m51
[12:06] <ubotu> mmm4m51: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[12:07] <peter77> Lamego, but I have run VLC for a long time without problem until I installed screenlets
[12:07] <Tester> Hey there im still having trouble finding a walkthrough for installing windows xp after ive initially installed ubuntu, is there any that anyone here know's of? im using the same HD, so i will have to partition
[12:08] <binarical-app> Tester: do you want it before or after your ubuntu os
[12:08] <N3uro5i5> hi all
[12:08] <Tester> ive actually already installed Ubuntu
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[12:09] <Tester> i'd just like to install windows now, but not sure how to go about this, i tried ubotu grub, but i cant really make sense of it :S
[12:09] <binarical-app> Tester: you can "live" move the partition and its data...
[12:09] <Lamego> peter77, so yes, it is most likely an issue from screenlets
[12:09] <lopin> If you install windows, it'll overwrite grub
[12:09] <lopin> Simple way to get grub back would be grub for dos....
[12:09] <mmm4m51> erUSUL: 10x, I will take a look. I did read a lot about backup before choose rdiff-backup. The problem is, I want to make it similar to version control system. To be easy to see what is changed. To be easy to revert, etc.
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> Tester: its easier if you install windows first and leave some hdd space unpartitioned. Grub will be your bootloader and chainload windows if selected
[12:09] <Tester> ah ok, would i have to move the Ubuntu partition forward? then leave some space at the beginning of the HD for the windows install?
[12:09] <lopin> Unfortunately, that's not the order that was used...
[12:09] <lopin> So, we can live with this...
[12:10] <lopin> ^.^
[12:10] <lopin> The windows boot loader, can be used to start grub.
[12:10] <lopin> I've done it for a long time...
[12:10] <mmm4m51> erUSUL: since I am new in linux, I spend a lot of time to understand what is wrong. If I have easy option to review changes and revert, this will be perfect.
[12:10] <lopin> You just have to add a grub for dos entry in either boot.ini or bcdedit if you have Vista
[12:10] <Tester> ok, does the windows boot loader(sorry not sure what that is) run when i boot the machine?
[12:10] <binarical-app> mbr
[12:10] <peter77> Lamego, oh well looks like they'll be going :-)
[12:11] <lopin> Tester, it's okay...  Would you like me to walk you through the process?
[12:11] <Tester> if possible that would be great, sorry for this, i jsut dont want to mess it up :S
[12:11] <mmm4m51> Question: anyone who have "backup solution" similar to "version control system"?
[12:11] <lopin> It's okay...  It's really easy once we have a place for windows to go.
[12:11]  * binarical-app thinks lopin is cool
[12:11] <Tester> ok cool
[12:12] <geek_inn> hi iam new user 2 IRC chat
[12:12] <geek_inn> hi all
[12:12] <binarical-app> hi geek
[12:12] <lopin> Yeah, but I still can't get my moving Hal Panel wallpaper working...  *sigh*
[12:12] <lopin> First, we're going to have to get you some space for windows at the front of the drive, because windows is stupid like that.
[12:12] <geek_inn> IRC is difficult to understand for users from windows env
[12:12] <geek_inn> I never used to this
[12:12] <Tester> yup i follow
[12:12] <geek_inn> but iam trying
[12:13] <geek_inn> I still have way2 go
[12:13] <lopin> Okay, so by using a live disk, and a windows install disk, you should be fine
[12:13] <geek_inn> it would be great if I know any ubuntu official s here
[12:13] <Tester> cool, so i boot again with ubuntu live cd, then move the ubuntu partition forward?
[12:13] <lopin> You want to start up the live disk, and move your partitions around while running a linux distribution that you don't have to move.
[12:13] <lopin> Yes, then go directly into windows.
[12:13] <Tester> ah cool
[12:14] <lopin> If not, you won't have a bootloader, so you need to install windows right quick, or you'll have nothing to start.
[12:14] <Tester> and i make sure that the partition in front of the ubuntu partition is not formatted(no file system)
[12:14] <lopin> Yes.  The windows partition must be at the front of the drive.
[12:14] <Tester> ah ok cool
[12:14] <geek_inn> ok great
[12:14] <geek_inn> I have problem  with
[12:14] <geek_inn> network manager
[12:15] <binarical-app> wireless?
[12:15] <lopin> Now, when you start moving partitions, it'll move grub, meaning that your computer won't know what the hell to do when it starts, so you need to go from linux live disk straight to windows install
[12:15] <matt___> how can i make something run every boot. I want a program to start, how shall I do it? I need to be able to do this via terminal.
[12:15] <geek_inn> it doesn't show me when me signs when my network is down it says active in network tools
[12:15] <mmm4m51> !sbackup
[12:15] <ubotu> sbackup is a tool to create complete and/or incremental backups (which can be scheduled to be automatic, and can be done over a network). It is available in !Universe
[12:15] <Tester> cool np, so after moving partitions, i reboot, and boot off the windows cd
[12:15] <geek_inn> I have wird
[12:15] <geek_inn> wired
[12:15] <erUSUL> !boot | matt___
[12:15] <ubotu> matt___: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[12:15] <geek_inn> *
[12:15] <mmm4m51> !cloning
[12:15] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[12:15] <dahui> hi @all - I come from the mac world, have an eeepc here and some problems with wifi. on eeexubuntu only dhcp is working wireless, manual config doens't work :( - my 2 macs and a win machine work propperly - xandros the original eeepc OS accpets maunal config too without probs - please bare with me for my english, I am no eng native - anybody out there to assist me? thx dahui
[12:16] <geek_inn> will it be fixed
[12:16] <binarical-app> matt_ : you will need to manually add that to the session, another way to do it is just to leave your user logged in via ssh
[12:16] <matt___> erUSUL: so i want it to start, IE firefox everytime it boots. would i use /etc/rc.local?
[12:16] <egoleo> hello
[12:16] <geek_inn> when network is down nm should show me or tell me its down
[12:16] <geek_inn> and vice versa
[12:16] <egoleo> how do i know other shells that my ubuntu supports
[12:16] <lopin> geek_inn, could you run ifdown eth0 & ifup eth0 in a terminal?
[12:16] <erUSUL> matt___: no, for that go to System>Preferences>Sessions
[12:16] <matt___> binarical-app: hmmm....how would i edit that?
[12:16] <erUSUL> matt___: startup programs
[12:17] <matt___> erUSUL: via terminal....ovdr ssh
[12:17] <lopin> Tester, exactly
[12:17] <lopin> Tester, One more thing, before you go.
[12:17] <Tester> so once ive installed windows, i take it will boot from windows automatically there on in, so how do i have the option to choose whcih OS to boot from?
[12:17] <lopin> I've never had any problems with moving partitions, but make sure you have a copy of your important data just in case.
[12:18] <geek_inn> it says network already configured
[12:18] <lopin> I'll help you with that when you get back.  XP, or Vista?
[12:18] <Tester> ok cool
[12:18] <Tester> im using XP
[12:18] <matt___> Tester: ummm...you generally have to install windows, then linux. not linux, then windows. windows takes over
[12:18] <erUSUL> matt___: edit ~/.xsession and launch firefox from there
[12:18] <geek_inn> actually iam in xp
[12:18] <dahui> have tried gos as well, same problem :( what would the best ubuntu be for eeepc, if dhcp is disabled in the network?
[12:18] <Ace2016> doesn't really matter about the order
[12:18] <geek_inn> so I can't run that command now
[12:18] <lopin> Yes, but unfortunately, we've already done it the other way around, and it's really not that hard to do it this way...
[12:18] <erUSUL> matt___: create it if neccesary never tried but it should work (tm)
[12:18] <Ace2016> if you install xp second then, boot the livecd and restore grub
[12:18] <geek_inn> but will it able to tell me status
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> dahui: id use xubuntu as its get a lower memeory footprint
[12:19] <Tester> sorry for this loppin, but once i install XP again, ill be away for sometime because i only have SP1 on disk, and it doesnt support WPA so i wont be able to go online again tomorrow, may i please get the last steps from you now so that i can print them out, if possible?
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> dahui: don't you like the xandros ?
[12:19] <lopin> If that's the case, we can repair grub, or use grub for dos in windows...
[12:19] <dahui> what networkmanager is used and is atheros wifi driver installed by default to work?
[12:19] <lopin> Either way works...
[12:19] <lopin> ATHEROS!  HOLD UP!
[12:19] <matt___> binarical-app: so will .xsession do it?
[12:19] <binarical-app> matt_:give "screen" a shot
[12:19] <dahui> as siad I do not have dhcp enabled in network
[12:20] <binarical-app> matt_: you dont want x running on a server
[12:20] <lopin> dahui, ar5007eg?
[12:20] <dahui> oops where can I verfy that?
[12:20] <matt___> binarical-app: it is running gnome as we speak.
[12:20] <matt___> binarical-app: i'm going to install a cli only soon on it...
[12:20] <binarical-app> matt_: it bloats the system, and creates unnecessary risks
[12:20] <lopin> x just opens some holes that you wouldn't want in a server environment...
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> dahui: eeeXubuntu has everything you need :)
[12:20] <matt___> binarical-app: totally know that...but i'm just experimenting on it
[12:21] <dahui> but my atheros doesn't work in manual config :(
[12:21] <lopin> dahui, I've gotten mine to work with the patched madwifi drivers.
[12:21] <matt___> binarical-app: so ehh....how should i add something to a session via ssh?
[12:21] <dahui> I tried the install from 7.10 live CD
[12:21] <lopin> The ar5007eg is software controlled, so the driver really doesn't do much...
[12:21] <binarical-app> matt_: cli is already there, you will have a hard time if you try and work around configuration with the cli for x
[12:21] <dahui> lopin: where can I get a patch and how can I patch them please
[12:21] <lopin> But, madwifi with the patch allows it to work regardless...
[12:22] <lopin> Linkage in just one sec...
[12:22] <dahui> great thx a lto
[12:22] <lopin> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/atheros-5007eg-with-madwifi-on-i386-platform.html
[12:22] <dahui> oops lot
[12:22] <matt___> binarical-app: what i'm saying...perhaps this weekend i'll head it up and install ubuntu server edition. but how shall i add something to the session using cli?
[12:22] <lopin> that worked for me...
[12:22] <dahui> thx will try and give feed back if ya still around ;)
[12:22] <lopin> It only works on i386 though..
[12:22] <lopin> I should be...
[12:22] <dahui> yep no problem
[12:22] <lopin> It's only 7:22 in the morning here...  ^.~
[12:23] <dahui> ah kk ;)
[12:23] <hischild> can grub boot dos?
[12:23] <icesword> lopin, where are u,here is pm 7
[12:23] <binarical-app> matt__: you can do it the way you would install a porgram normaly from your system, assuming you use ubuntu on both
[12:23] <lopin> East coast of the us
[12:23] <geek_inn> hey
[12:24] <lopin> hischild, Yes, it can
[12:24] <binarical-app> matt_:sudo atp-get install awsomo4000
[12:24] <zerod> hello
[12:24] <geek_inn> I was asking something
[12:24] <icesword> yayaaa
[12:24] <lopin> geek_inn, What's going on?
[12:24] <geek_inn> network manager
[12:24] <yahuuu> hi again
[12:24] <matt___> binarical-app: i'm not wanting to install something..i'm wanting to make something run everytime it boots...
[12:24] <zerod> interest
[12:24] <yahuuu> seems something happen to my Intel 946GZ Express family chipset, i cant install ubuntu. any suggestion? its work good with XP and previusoly i installed ubuntu on same video card
[12:24] <hischild> lopin, thanks :-) also, the 5007EG works flawlessly under gutsy using madwifi or ndiswrapper
[12:24] <dahui> @lopin ... bavaria germany here ;)
[12:24] <geek_inn> in xp taskbar applet changes status
[12:24] <binarical-app> geek_inn it would help if you put your questions in one big paragraph, instead of using enter as punctuation
[12:24] <lopin> Have they integrated the patch already?
[12:24] <geek_inn> but ubuntu doesn't
[12:25] <hischild> lopin, for 5007? no
[12:25] <dahui> no idea
[12:25] <lopin> Network manager is still a little buggy...
[12:25] <binarical-app> matt_: hey drwillis
[12:25] <lopin> Damn, everything's still buggy...
[12:25] <lopin> ^.^
[12:25] <icesword> hehehe
[12:25] <matt___> Dr_willis: how can i make something start everytime my pc boots...needs to be done via termianl
[12:25] <lopin> That's one of the downsides to opensource...  But, we get them fixed real quick, we do...
[12:26] <Dr_willis> matt__,  depends on the stuff.. /etc/rc.local is a good place for most things.
[12:26] <binarical-app> matt_: you basicly have to rtfm :P for each of the apps you want to run
[12:26] <dahui> lopin: reinstalling eeexubuntu 7.10 as gOS was installed atm
[12:26] <DistroJockey> hischild: re: grub and DOS, this was Google's first answer:  http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/gnu/grub/html_chapter/grub_4.html
[12:26] <binarical-app> matt_: you should start with man program
[12:26] <lopin> dahui, Hmm?
[12:26] <ty> hello, my update manager is freezing up as soon as i click install updates, i cant close it same thing happens when i try to use add/remove
[12:26] <dahui> so no idea if included
[12:26] <yahuuu> seems something happen to my Intel 946GZ Express family chipset, i cant install ubuntu. any suggestion? its work good with XP and previusoly i installed ubuntu on same video card
[12:26] <matt___> binarical-app: but it doesn't have man or anything..it's a "run" script
[12:26] <dahui> as said I start from scratch
[12:26] <lopin> matt_ you new to linux?
[12:27] <Dr_willis> matt__,  what IS this program you are wanting to run?
[12:27] <binarical-app> matt_: so you want firefox to run on boot?
[12:27] <matt___> lopin: no, just new to using a server and wanting to make a script run on boot via terminal?
[12:27] <matt___> binarical-app: no
[12:27] <Dr_willis> matt___,  use /etc/rc.local then.. there ya go.
[12:27] <geek_inn> Look Network manager problems,on desktop it doesn't change status when there is partial or no network connection as xp detects.but in ubuntu netowork tools says I have active connection why is this,why doesn't nm taskbar applet changes it state automatically or notify on no connection etc.also how can I know the current status of network.ifup and ifdown are for changing interface status but how can I know real status of network,I have wired ethernet co
[12:28] <hischild> DistroJockey, thanks for the link, yet a simple yes would've sufficed. It's for a future project
[12:28] <matt___> Dr_willis: Dr_willis binarical-app http://sourceforge.net/projects/x360mediaserve/
[12:28] <erUSUL> ty: do a comman line update... «sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade»
[12:28] <pawan> hi
[12:28] <binarical-app> geek_inn we cant help you with your xp box
[12:28] <egoleo> i want a command to know what shells are on my system?
[12:28] <icesword> ya,hi
[12:28] <lopin> geek_inn, Give me a sec to read your problem... I think I may be able to help...
[12:28] <DistroJockey> hischild: sorry, I did mean to say yes, but someone said that before me
[12:28] <yahuuu> seems something happen to my Intel 946GZ Express family chipset, i cant install ubuntu. any suggestion? its work good with XP and previusoly i installed ubuntu on same video card..... when i update the ubuntu OS with latest updates from the internet, and shutdown the pc, after that ubuntu never start again, so i m now try to install ubuntu again
[12:28] <dahui> lopin: live cd boot accepts only dhcp connection atm cannot connect manual wireless, logical not patsched yet (!?) will make install and then try to patch
[12:28] <matt___> Dr_willis: thank you....
[12:28] <Dr_willis> matt___,  if its somthing you mornally run with 'sudo whatever' to launchit - you can just put 'whatever &' in rc.local
[12:29] <erUSUL> Dr_willis: he wants to launch firefox rc.local will no work without a teaw or two
[12:29] <geek_inn> I can just reboot in ubuntu if you want..............i have dual boot
[12:29] <Dr_willis> erUSUL,  I dont think he wants firefox.. :)
[12:29] <erUSUL> Dr_willis: teawk*
[12:29] <matt___> Dr_willis: what does the & do?
[12:29] <hischild> DistroJockey, no need to say sorry. I've booked the link so i'll be able to use it for future use =)
[12:29] <geek_inn> but it will take 10 minutes
[12:29] <ty> erUSUL: i get an error - "sudo: unable to resolve host tyron-laptop"
[12:29] <matt___> erUSUL: i don't want to run no firefox
[12:29] <lopin> geek_inn, there really is no partial connection...  If linux is connected, it's connected
[12:29] <Dr_willis> matt___,  time to learn some shell basics.. & is for job controll. keeps the shell from getting taken over.
[12:29] <lopin> geek_inn, Microsoft almost made up that bull...
[12:29] <hischild> ty, you have to boot into recovery mode and add tyron-laptop to /etc/hosts
[12:30] <erUSUL> Dr_willis: 13:16 < matt___> erUSUL: so i want it to start, IE firefox everytime it boots. would i use /etc/rc.local?
[12:30] <DistroJockey> hischild: *nods* the map command I have found is need at times
[12:30] <yahuuu> ?
[12:30] <Dr_willis> erUSUL,  he just told me it was binarical-app http://sourceforge.net/projects/x360mediaserve/
[12:30] <ty> hischild:what would have caused this? is it from installing samba?
[12:30] <matt___> Dr_willis: so you mean like, everytime i start transmission via terminal, and i can no longer use that terminal for anything untill transmission exits, if i stick & after transmission, i can use the terminal still?
[12:30] <lopin> geek_inn, there shouldn't be any problems that I'm seeing...
[12:30] <erUSUL> Dr_willis: then he "lied" to me ;)
[12:30] <hischild> ty, i have no idea what could have caused it. Look in your /etc/hosts and see if tyron-laptop is in there.
[12:30] <geek_inn> ok,what about network disconnection will it show,also the network manager applet on taskbar iam talkin about it doesn't change it state automatically
[12:30] <yahuuu> Dr_willis: can i pm u please? need ur help
[12:30] <lopin> yahuuu, I'm going to need some more information.
[12:30] <Dr_willis> matt__,  yes.. its Time you read a few bash tutorials.. :) thats rather basic stuff.
[12:30] <hischild> DistroJockey, what?
[12:31] <Dr_willis> yahuuu,  ask in the channel - I may have to leave at any time
[12:31] <icesword> lopin, how could grub boot dos
[12:31] <geek_inn> nor doesn't it notify
[12:31] <DistroJockey> hischild:  grub> map (hd0) (hd1)       grub> map (hd1) (hd0)
[12:31] <yahuuu> seems something happen to my Intel 946GZ Express family chipset, i cant install ubuntu. any suggestion? its work good with XP and previusoly i installed ubuntu on same video card..... when i update the ubuntu OS with latest updates from the internet, and shutdown the pc, after that ubuntu never start again, so i m now try to install ubuntu again
[12:31] <lopin> Four commands in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:31] <lopin> Title Dos
[12:31] <matt___> Dr_willis: so will /etc.rc.local run things as user, or as root?
[12:31] <lopin> rootnoverify (hd0,0)
[12:31] <lopin> makeactive
[12:32] <lopin> chainloader +1
[12:32] <icesword> ahhhh,lopin,thx
[12:32] <binarical-app> matt_:yes
[12:32] <erUSUL> matt___: if its some kind of server either use rc.local or make an init script for it based on /etc/init.d/skeleton and add that script to boot secuence with ie «sudo update-rc.d add scriptname defaults»
[12:32] <matt___> binarical-app: which on?
[12:32] <hischild> DistroJockey, ah that :-) it'll be about 2 weeks before i have to do anything with it, so i'm good for now. Well now we're at it ... do you happen to know if you can convert a vpc HD to vbox HD?
[12:32] <geek_inn> google tells me CLI command IFSTATUS ????
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> yahuuu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=498076
[12:32] <ty> hischild: this is the only line with tyron-laptop - 127.0.1.1 tyron-laptop.MSHOME
[12:32] <yahuuu> thank u ActionParsnip
[12:32] <Dr_willis> matt__,  how could it run them as a user? :) its running beofr any user is even logged in.. you COULD make a command run a program as a user wiuth the use of the su command,
[12:32] <erUSUL> matt___: pardon is «sudo update-rc.d scriptname defaults»
[12:32] <lopin> yahuuu, How far are you getting in startup?
[12:33] <matt___> binarical-app: erUSUL gotcha both, thanks..........
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> yahuuu: or https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/161759
[12:33] <Dr_willis> matt___,  you do not need 'sudo' to run things as root from rc.local
[12:33] <hischild> ty, where is the  tyron-laptop located? on the same line?
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> yahuuu: im just throwing stuff that may help
[12:33] <yahuuu> its simply reject to enter into LIVE CD and show a black screen , says type HELP for more commands
[12:33] <DistroJockey> hischild: good question, but no, I don't. Just started playing with VirtualBox a day ago, and don't have any VM's
[12:34] <ty> hischild: Yes this is the exact line in but whout the brackets (127.0.1.1 tyron-laptop.MSHOME)
[12:34] <hischild> DistroJockey, i can't find much on google about it either, unless using vmware which apparently can handle both which i'm trying to void.
[12:34] <lopin> If you installed it, why are you going into a live cd?
[12:34] <yahuuu> its crashed thats why i want to install it again
[12:34] <hischild> ty, there should be a line just about tyron-laptop 127.0.1.1 and another one with the .MSHOME. are _BOTH_ lines there?
[12:34] <lopin> How far did your *installed* copy of ubuntu get?
[12:34] <yahuuu> i installed updates for uuntu and after that it never starts
[12:34] <yahuuu> 3 months ago
[12:34] <lopin> How far does it get when you try to start it?
[12:34] <binarical-app> matt_: if need to use sudo that means you are going outside of your user. if youneed root privialges to change a configuration then, yes you will need sudo, be carefull with sudo , read - man sudo
[12:35] <visof> hello
[12:35] <ty> hischild: No but i can go add one, is this right (127.0.0.1 tyron-laptop)
[12:35] <visof> how can i decompress .gz file ?
[12:35] <geek_inn> ok one more problem quiet easy,I have tv tuner card not detected by default install I load modules into kernel "modprobe saa7134" how can I make them to load at boot instead of loading manually everytime?
[12:35] <lopin> ActionParsnip, Is there a problem with those cards that's 3 months old?
[12:35] <icesword> tar zxf
[12:35] <yahuuu> but ubuntu was installed on the same machine 2 days before, and after installing updates of ubuntu, its crashed and never recover, so i tried to install ubuntu again
[12:35] <icesword> ty
[12:36] <hischild> ty, you should add that exact line. However to do so, you have to go into recovery mode.
[12:36] <lopin> yahuuu,
[12:36] <yahuuu> plz guys help me to install ubuntu again
[12:36] <dahui> lopin: eeexubuntu install from 7.10 is running with german language and conncetd at the moment via wifi dhcp with WPA2 and macfilter in router ... will keep ya informed
[12:36] <yahuuu> yes lopin ?
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> yahuuu: http://math.dartmouth.edu/~sarunas/X60sGutsy.html
[12:36] <lesshaste> geek_inn, good question and I am sure it has a simple answer :) try #linux too
[12:36] <lopin> When you try to start the crashed ubuntu, how far does it get, before it stops?
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> lopin: dont think so. I believe it uses i810
[12:36] <icesword> yahuuu, when you said it didn't start,you mean it cannot start x or what
[12:36] <ty> icesworld: i cant go in to network >> Hosts and use the gui to add it ?
[12:36] <lopin> How do you know it's crashed?  What's telling you this?
[12:37] <lopin> ActionParsnip, Is his chipset causing problems?
[12:37] <lesshaste> geek_inn, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-248027.html
[12:37] <icesword> lopin, you english native speaker?
[12:37] <lopin> dahui, Thanks...  Thought it'd work...
[12:37] <lopin> icesword, Yeah...
[12:37] <icesword> yaaa
[12:37] <yahuuu> icesword: it cant start temperary ubuntu session from there a user can decide to install it or not...
[12:37] <yahuuu> i m new to linux ,,,,,
[12:38] <lopin> yahuuu, Sok...  Where is your installed ubuntu locking up, or dying?
[12:38] <ty> how do i kill the update manager process?
[12:38] <binarical-app> we all were at one point in time
[12:38] <lopin> indeed
[12:38] <icesword> lopin, i don't get yahuuu
[12:38] <yahuuu> i formated the HDD
[12:38] <lopin> Okay, so it doesn't matter...
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> Ty: try ps-ef and analyse the processes
[12:38] <lesshaste> which app will give me cpu temperature etc?
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> ps -ef sorry
[12:38] <lopin> That would be why we don't get him...  ^.^
[12:39] <lopin> yahuuu, Trying to install now?
[12:39] <yahuuu> yesssssssssss
[12:39] <binarical-app> ty: you should try updating via the cli, it will tell you what needs to be done, i think you may have an unfinished update session that was killed prematurly
[12:39] <lopin> I'm sorry!  What's happening?
[12:39] <dahui> lopin: yes with dhcp enabled it does, from cd as wthen booted from interd SSD, but when I switch off the dhcp in router and try to configure wireless it doesn't work either from live CD nor after install and boot from SSD - will patch it after installl and then disable dhcp in router, configure it manually the wifi in eeepc and see ;)
[12:39] <binarical-app> ty: sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[12:39] <yahuuu> but when i click on install button when i boot my pc with ubuntu, its shows me a black screen which says type help for more commans and thas all
[12:40] <lopin> You want to use the general network info for that then...
[12:40] <ty> binarical-app: i tried that and i had a problem with hosts, i have fixed and need to kill the update process as its frozen
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> yahuuu: so you dont have a gui but you can loin at command line
[12:40] <dahui> 73 % will take antother 20 mins on my slow asus eeepc and tiny boradband :(
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> yahuuu: or can you not log in?
[12:40] <lopin> ActionParsnip, He's in the live disck
[12:40] <lopin> *disk
[12:40] <jabroni5> NEWB QUESTION: Hello oh omnipotent collective! I'm a Mac user. In the October '07 edition of Macworld, I read an article by Brian Jepson titled, "Linux (Ubuntu) on the Mac". Just today, I bought Parallels, and downloaded Ubuntu 7.10 desktop edition. There appears to be a graphics bug of some sort. While installing Ubuntu from the ISO, the windowed screen jumps around irregularly, and ultimately freezes. I have taken great pains
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> dahui: eeepc aint that slow dude
[12:40] <yahuuu> i dont know abt linux, last time i installed the same ubuntu on the same machine and it was very easy just few clicks and done
[12:41] <djavolo> Âîò è ïðèï¸ðñÿ ÿ â ýòó æîïó
[12:41] <icesword> what the hell
[12:41] <lopin> yahuuu, that's what we're trying to figure out...
[12:41] <andash> fuck, he put a curse on us
[12:41] <djavolo> Hi Girls and Boys
[12:41] <jabroni5> that was the implied scenario, yahuu
[12:41] <yahuuu> i m sorry guys if i bother u
[12:41] <hischild> lopin, he's got busybox running when i read his description ..
[12:41] <dahui> ActionParsnip: the it is my broadband ;) ;) ;) the bottleneck ;)
[12:42] <lopin> yahuuu, is the disk damaged?
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> jabroni5: do macs have bios settings? you could default them. You might also want to try the alternaive cd as well
[12:42] <yahuuu> no its working fine with windows
[12:42] <jabroni5> nope, ran the disk check on the ISO
[12:42] <dahui> Ac
[12:42] <dahui> ActionParsnip: no bios on macs
[12:42] <jabroni5> is 7.04 (as cited in article) less buggy on Parallels than 7.10 possibly?
[12:42] <icesword> hischild, this is usually cannot mount the livecd ,i think
[12:42] <lopin> jabroni5, virtualization is still in it's infancy.  There are bound to be some problems...
[12:42] <lopin> It's that you're running it in a vm...
[12:43] <yahuuu> guys just tell me, cant i install ubuntu again ? :(
[12:43] <jabroni5> i saw two bios' in parallels folder, i can check them for you dahui....
[12:43] <ty> hischild: All fixed i used the GUI in sys admin added the host and run update ok now - thanks for the help
[12:43] <binarical-app> ty: can you tell us what you see when you :sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> dahui: ok, have you tried adding extra boot options to diable acpi / dma etc. Have you googled for any walkthroughs with help
[12:43] <lopin> You should be but we don't know why it's stopping...
[12:43] <hischild> ty, good
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> binarical-app: its a command to type
[12:43] <lopin> We can't get enough information yahuuu
[12:43] <jabroni5> so running Ubuntu in a VM is still ill-advised?
[12:43] <jabroni5> it was kind of just a pet project for me
[12:43] <hischild> icesword, hmm could be .. but the desc sounds like a busybox with the huge black screen and help for more.
[12:43] <ty> binarical-app: All fixed i used the GUI in sys admin added the host and run update ok now - thanks for the help
[12:43] <jabroni5> i'm not a sys admin
[12:44] <yahuuu> lopin: so how to figure out then ? u guys are experts .....
[12:44] <Dr_willis> jabroni5,  ill advised? why would it be ill advised?
[12:44] <binarical-app>  jabroni5: you should try Q kju
[12:44] <Dr_willis> jabroni5,  vmware and virtualbox can handle it fine. if you want.
[12:44] <binarical-app>  jabroni5:its free and works wonders
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> dahui: http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/04/27/how-to-install-ubuntu-feisty-fawn-in-os-x-using-parallels-a-complete-walkthrough/#install
[12:44] <dahui> jabroni5: does only ubuntu fail in parallels or even another OS, I am a macuser too
[12:44] <jabroni5> Dr_willis: oh, just if it's still a buggy proposition -- i'll keep trying regardless :p
[12:44] <icesword> yahuuu, tell us how do you install,from a cd,vm or not,a livecd or alternate cd
[12:44] <lopin> yahuuu I can't figure out where the thing is stopping from your description.  You're starting the live disk, and selecting "Start or Install", correct?
[12:44] <hischild> jabroni5, also, virtualbox runs just fine with it
[12:44] <jabroni5> binarical-app: i'll check out Q kju; ty
[12:45] <dahui> ActionParsnip: thx very usfefull for me ;)
[12:45] <yahuuu> i am installing it from conacial CD 7.10 ubuntu
[12:45] <binarical-app>  jabroni5: np
[12:45] <lopin> Yes, you would almost have to...
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> yahuuu: the installed firewall might spaz a bit cos it'll seee you getting scanned
[12:45] <lopin> yahuuu, Now, you're selecting the first option in the list, right?
[12:45] <yahuuu> yes i select all the options but.....
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> dahui: ive zero experience with mac but i found that with google. you should try it
[12:46] <lopin> yahuuu, Woah!  Wait!
[12:46] <jabroni5> dahui: I have not tried any other OS's yet in Parallels, sry -- just started this project today
[12:46] <yahuuu> ok ok sorry
[12:46] <lopin> Why are you deselecting options?
[12:46] <lopin> We're only at the first menu..  There shouldn't be any options..
[12:46] <yahuuu> no i just tried to tell u that i tried million of times and ubujntu dont install
[12:46] <lopin> Other, then "Start or Install Ubuntu"
[12:46] <sunbird> hey i'm having trouble connecting to a softphone via twinkle. i'm using identical settings to my profile in gizmo (on os X partition), so i know the account works.
[12:46] <yahuuu> lopin: i m sorry , u go ahead
[12:46] <lopin> yahuuu, So, we're loosing it somewhere in the installer then?
[12:47] <sunbird> i'm running twinkle on 7.10x64
[12:47] <jabroni5> sounds like it lopin
[12:47] <yahuuu> yes when kernal is loaded the black screen appers and thats all
[12:47]  * icesword thinks some computer doesn't work with livecd
[12:47] <lopin> let yahuuu answer...
[12:47] <jabroni5> ...i mean, that has been my experience
[12:47] <DistroJockey> yahuuu: I you are not using the alternate cd, it probably will not work me thinks
[12:47] <DistroJockey> if you^
[12:47] <lopin> Okay...
[12:47] <lopin> This is good...
[12:47] <lopin> How much ram do you have?
[12:47] <yahuuu> 512
[12:48] <jabroni5> <-- 6gb mac pro, 512 designated
[12:48] <lopin> Okay, so ram isn't the problem...
[12:48] <lopin> There's an option to check disk for errors, right?
[12:48] <lopin> Try that...
[12:48] <jabroni5> <-- has tried that already, no errors -- waiting for yahuuu
[12:48] <yahuuu> u want to say that might be cd is damage?
[12:48] <lopin> yahuuu, Maybe...
[12:49] <lopin> Disks get fudged up easy...
[12:49] <yahuuu> jabroni5: i tried that in other machine and it works there
[12:49] <lopin> jabroni5,  where are you at?
[12:49] <lopin> yahuuu, See, I had a knoppix cd that worked in every comp but mine...
[12:49] <lopin> yahuuu, it was cause mine gave up easy on scratches...
[12:50] <yahuuu> ok i will try it, but the CD is scrachless
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> yahuuu: what speed did youburn at?
[12:50] <dahui> ActionParsnip: I am just a mac user, but trying to install on eeepc asus ;)
[12:50] <yahuuu> i get CD's from canocial directly
[12:50] <lopin> Can someone find me a way to get a .swf to something I can use as a wallpaper?
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> yahuuu: awesome :D
[12:50] <WorkingOnWise> can someone point me to a howto for pairing my N800 to my laptop (Ubuntu Gutsy) so I can sync, probably with rsync, stuff between them? I get "Couldn't display "obex://[00:19:4f:DB:BA:F5]/". Errror: Host down
[12:50] <yahuuu> ActionParsnip :)
[12:50] <lopin> yahuuu, that's good!
[12:50] <binarical-app> yahuuu: download the correct kernel type for your system, burn it as slowly as possible, set your bios to boot it, then reboot
[12:51] <yahuuu> so u see, thats why i am worried
[12:51] <lopin> That's not the problem...
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> WorkingOnWise: is the bluetooth on your phone turned on?
[12:52] <WorkingOnWise> ActionParsnip: yup. it's an Internet Tablet running Debain Linux....
[12:52] <binarical-app> yahuuu: i think your system is buging up at the boot loader, you could try to see if this is the case by truning your hard drive off in bios
[12:52] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. is Freespire based on Ubuntu now?
[12:52] <bertvdp> hi, how can I sort processes on the quanitity or percentage of memory they use in a top command ?
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> WorkingOnWise: what if you remove the pairing then repair
[12:52] <lopin> man top
[12:52] <yahuuu> binarical-app: turn HDD off?
[12:52] <lopin> that'll give you the modifiers for it..  There should be one for sort...
[12:53] <Dr_willis> bertvdp,  you also may want to check out htop - its top on steriods. :)
[12:53] <binarical-app> yahuuu: what you see is a black screes with a coursor
[12:53] <lopin> Top on steroids? That actually kinda sounds cool...
[12:53] <binarical-app> *screen
[12:53] <bertvdp> Dr_willis: I don't understand...
[12:53] <jabroni5> binarical-app: that's what I see, with my albiet possibly different issue
[12:53] <Dr_willis> !info htop
[12:53] <ubotu> Package htop does not exist in gutsy
[12:54] <yahuuu> binarical-app: black screen with something installing it and took too much time, but nothing happen
[12:54] <icesword> hahah
[12:54] <lopin> new program...  Better version of top...
[12:54] <Dr_willis> bertvdp,  sudo apt-get install htop, run htop
[12:54] <jabroni5> binarical-app: but sounds like we're freezing up at same stage....maybe
[12:54] <zmatt> htop rocks
[12:54] <lopin> yahuuu, it does that sometimes...
[12:54] <DistroJockey> !info firefox
[12:54] <ubotu> Package firefox does not exist in gutsy
[12:54] <DistroJockey> still broken I guess
[12:54] <yahuuu> lopin: so i wait and see ?
[12:54] <binarical-app> are you using a beta version of ubuntu on a older system?
[12:54] <lopin> Give it say about half an hour, and if it's not done then, then it's not going to...
[12:55] <lopin> He's using 7.10
[12:55] <yahuuu> ok i will try it
[12:55] <lopin> Okay...
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> bertvdp: ps -ef might do it
[12:55] <yahuuu> i am really greatful to all of u guys, who help me
[12:55] <lopin> jabroni5, where are you stuck?
[12:55] <binarical-app> yahuuu: wait man
[12:55] <yahuuu> ok
[12:55] <Frodolix> Hello! how can I make compiz working? I have activated the restricted drivers.
[12:55] <zmatt> pgrep is very handy
[12:55]  * icesword if there is an option to view it in verbose mode,which to see where is hangs at
[12:55] <bertvdp> okey, I found it
[12:55] <lopin> Frodolix, Ubuntu, or Kubuntu?
[12:56] <Frodolix> lopin: ubuntu
[12:56] <lopin> Frodolix, sudo apt-get install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager
[12:56] <icesword> yahuuu, no ,where is your computer at,i mean at what stage
[12:56] <binarical-app> yahuuu: do a bit of reading on your cpu type and what kind of ubuntu distro you will need for it
[12:56] <dahui> lopin: 85% and downloading language files ... my broadband is so damn slwo here in the country side :(
[12:56] <Frodolix> lopin: ok I will try that
[12:56] <binarical-app> if the cd is just stalling like that, then i think that your cd may be screwed, it dosnt have to be with a scratch
[12:56] <yahuuu> binarical-app: i told u ,that i already installed ubuntu on the same machine before .....
[12:56] <jabroni5> lopin: my install ceases to respond after choosing to install Ubuntu from the first menu...i wait a few moments and the Ubuntu progress bar appears....then the screen goes to black w/ prompt, and that's as far as it gets
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> lopin: could disabling acpi and the like imrove the situation some?
[12:57] <lopin> dahlia, I remember downloading Kubuntu at 4MB/s
[12:57] <binarical-app> is ubuntu on it already?
[12:57] <icesword> yaaaa.damn slow
[12:57] <lopin> It might, but I'm inclined to recommend an alternate install disk.
[12:57] <zmatt> lopin: try downloading at 56K :)
[12:57] <Frodolix> lopin: compiz is already the newest version. compizconfig-settings-manager is already the newest version.
[12:57] <lopin> Somethings going on with the DM
[12:57] <icesword> try multi thread download tools
[12:57] <yahuuu> not yet, 2 days ago, i installed latest updates for ubuntu and after that it never starts
[12:57] <zmatt> Frodolix: what happens when you try and enable it from your appearence settings ?
[12:57] <binarical-app> has it run before? if so, and you can find the os in the boot loader or grub then , switch to you rescue mode,then enter this: rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity
[12:57] <lopin> Frodolix, Okay,
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> yahuuu: what did you update?
[12:58] <binarical-app> from : http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2007/02/14/how-to-reset-ubuntugnome-settings-to-defaults-without-re-installing/
[12:58] <Frodolix> zmatt : nothing
[12:58] <WorkingOnWise> ActionParsnip: its wierd. I still cant pair them from the laptop, but I can fron the Tablet. even then, I cant browse the tablet from the pc. I can send a file to the tablet tho...
[12:58] <yahuuu> its says u have 19 updates and i just clcik on it
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> binarical-app: just rename the hidden folder in the user profile (.kde in kde
[12:58] <zmatt> Frodolix: anything in your Xorg logs ?
[12:58] <lopin> System - Appearance - Visual Effects - Extra
[12:58] <legend2440> lopin: swftools in synaptic   swfextract allows to extract Movieclips, Sounds, Images etc. from SWF files.
[12:59] <lopin> Extract, or render?
[12:59] <binarical-app> yahuuu: your updates are what is locking it up
[12:59] <DistroJockey> yahuuu: what does the following command return when typed in a terminal:   uname -a
[12:59] <icesword> it can cut a file to pieces,then download at the same time,like a 5m file,cut it to 5 peices,if download directly,takes one min,i.e.,if you use that,it will save 4/5 time,use 1min only,hehehehe
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> WorkingOnWise: maybe its a permissions thing. I dont use bluetooth so I'm not much help, sorry
[12:59] <Frodolix> zmatt: oh..sorry it says "The composite extension not available"
[12:59] <yahuuu> DistroJockey: ia m not on ubuntu, using windowsXP
[12:59] <icesword> nana,it is 20s
[13:00] <zmatt> Frodolix: have you checked that you're running supported hardware ?
[13:00] <DistroJockey> yahuuu: ohh, sorry
[13:00] <lopin> Frodolix, Sudo apt-get install emerald
[13:00] <yahuuu> i wish to use ubuntu again
[13:00] <yahuuu> its ok
[13:00] <WorkingOnWise> ActionParsnip: ok. Thanks. I can still rsync if I pull the SD card if I have to...
[13:00] <binarical-app> yahuuu: then your boot loader is messed up
[13:00] <yahuuu> lopin: i am  going to have a try and will wait for 30 min
[13:00] <icesword> you guys maybe may have no idea what is multi thread download,lol
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> WorkingOnWise: once its mountd then yeah go for it. You could switch from bluez to whatever the other one is
[13:01] <yahuuu> binarical-app: do i need to download boot loader?
[13:01] <lopin> If that doesn't work, you'll need to use an Alternate Install CD.  It just uses and Command Line Interface to do the same thing, so it shouldn't run into these problems
[13:01] <Dr_willis> icesword,  i havent needed that in ages. :) of course those can hammer the servers a bit
[13:01] <binarical-app> i thik you can. im not sure thos since i dont use xp
[13:01] <icesword> Dr_willis, yaaa,why not,
[13:01] <Dr_willis> icesword,  anything i download, i normally have done in a few seconds to a min anyway. :P
[13:02] <yahuuu> i will be back
[13:02] <yahuuu> thanks alot guys
[13:02] <icesword> ohhhhhhh
[13:02] <binarical-app> good luck man
[13:02] <jabroni5> lopin: do you perchance have a link to a command line Ubuntu install tutorial?
[13:02] <Dr_willis> icesword,  last i used somthing like that was when i was on dialup. main use back then was to resume downloads easier.
[13:02] <jabroni5> np, either way, ty all for help
[13:02] <DistroJockey> !server | jabroni5
[13:02] <ubotu> jabroni5: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[13:02] <lopin> jabroni5, you're not installing a command line, you're installing FROM a command line...
[13:02] <lopin> It works just the same, just not as pretty...
[13:03] <icesword> Dr_willis, but it is damn fast,beyond your imagine,but it is only for windows,we all use that here
[13:03] <Helix82> Hi guys i have query: Is there any Network simulator for Gusty... something like routersim r pactek tracer...
[13:03] <jabroni5> no, no, i realize lopin -- bad grammer
[13:03] <DistroJockey> jabroni5: may be worth a look *shrugs*
[13:03] <jabroni5> ubotu: ty for links
[13:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ty for links - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:03] <Pici> !bot | jabroni5
[13:03] <ubotu> jabroni5: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[13:03] <Dr_willis> icesword,   i find people rarely use them under windows any more - due to the VAST # that had so much spyware/crapware/adware in them ages ago.
[13:03] <DistroJockey> np jabroni5 :)
[13:03] <dahui> lopin: I  am szill on iso install from CD of eeexubuntu ... can I meanwhile verify somehow wich atheros I do have and if it is a Atheros 5007EG, terminal or any gui?
[13:04] <jabroni5> <-- ahh, bots -- ty mr bot
[13:04] <dahui> cannot find anything like hwardwaremanager
[13:04] <lopin> jabroni5, There's no difference, besides the ability to use a mouse...
[13:04] <icesword> Dr_willis, no,it is clean,we use it here all.and it is fast:p
[13:04] <lopin> dahui, terminal -> lspci
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> dahui: eeexubuntu has the drivers for native wifi
[13:04] <lopin> Find atheros in that list
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> dahui: its made for that system
[13:05] <Frodolix> zmatt: I dont think I my drivers installed properly
[13:05] <icesword> Dr_willis, you don't know it,it even doesn't have a official english version
[13:05] <jabroni5> alright, back to tweaking, my new build download is finished --- TYVM binarical-app and lopin for your efforts! cheers
[13:05] <Dr_willis> icesword,  useless to me then. :) I did use getright ages and ages and ages ago.  Back when 5k/s was fast!
[13:06] <icesword> Dr_willis, and i download iso from your site,it is 400k/s,it is so fast
[13:06] <Dr_willis> icesword,  i get 400k/s without  the tools. :)
[13:06] <icesword> lol
[13:06] <icesword> no,i am far from the server
[13:06] <dahui> ActionParsnip: I know, but thats why I am here for, the wifi works only if in my router dhcp is enabled, if I try manual config, it doesn'r work, while in xandros manual is no prob, so it cannot be missspell anything nor the hardware. lopin told me to patch it http://www.ubuntugeek.com/atheros-5007eg-with-madwifi-on-i386-platform.html and now while waiting I wanted to know, if I can verify to have the right hardware ;) thx again
[13:06] <icesword> it is different
[13:07] <Dr_willis> i have seen some torrents on my box go so fast - i dident think my connection COULD go that fast.
[13:07] <lopin> Anyone know what I can use to convert a SWF to a GIF or AVI?
[13:07] <Dr_willis> icesword,  a lot of ftp/http/servers see those kind of tools and throttle down multi-connections.
[13:07] <icesword> Dr_willis, if you use windows,somehow,you could try it,some guy use it even gain 1.5m /s
[13:08] <Dr_willis> mencoder i think can do swf to avi,
[13:08] <icesword> Dr_willis, i use it to download from foreigners' site,it is damn fast,and if i don't use it,i only gain 15k/s average
[13:08] <lopin> http://lopin.no-ip.org/hal_9000.swf
[13:09] <lopin> Trying to turn that into a wallpaper...
[13:09] <icesword> Dr_willis, you have no idea what is multi thread download,because you don;t have that kind  of tools,lol
[13:10] <Dr_willis> icesword,  i used them all the time ages on dialup.. and im glad i dont have to worry about them now.
[13:11] <Dr_willis> icesword,  ive seen tools that scan/google/search for identical files and grab them automaticially in parts from different servers also.
[13:11] <icesword> Dr_willis, when i said this to foreigner,they all pass it,or scared,they are just afraid of malware,spyware,
[13:11] <icesword> coz we has a bad name here
[13:11] <max_> ciao
[13:11] <lopin> Dr_willis, That does avi to swf...
[13:11] <Dr_willis> icesword,  as they should be on windows machines.
[13:11] <Lamego> icesword, there are actually multithread tools for ubuntu, any downloader supporting metalinks
[13:11] <lopin> EVERYTHING does avi to swf...
[13:11] <lopin> Does anything do swf to avi?
[13:11] <Dr_willis> lopin,  ok if you say so. :)
[13:11] <Lamego> same for torrent
[13:11] <Dr_willis> i recall some web sites that could do flash to avi
[13:12] <icesword> it is different
[13:12] <Dr_willis> torrents are theultimate multithread downloader.
[13:12] <Dr_willis> but this topic is noe been beaten to death.
[13:12] <icesword> yaa,but this is download everything,it support p2p,http,ftp,whatver
[13:12] <xen_> hey there how do i get fglrx driver to work, i only get this OpenGL version string: 1.2 (2.1 Mesa 7.0.1)
[13:12] <xen_> what am i doing wrong?
[13:12] <icesword> you have knew
[13:13] <Dr_willis> icesword, if its for windows only.. technicially its off topic anyway :)
[13:13] <icesword> sorry,my bad english,i even forgot grammar
[13:13] <icesword> Dr_willis, i advice you try it,to see how it works,and write one for ubuntu,:)
[13:13] <dahui> on the bottomcase of my eeePC is noted "Atheros AR5BXB63" and in the link for the patch comments stands "Q: My card is Atheros AR5006X, but I think it should work with this tutorial as well.  -   A: No this tutorial is for 5007EG only."  so now I htink I am stuck again ... but lets wait till the basic eeexubuntu is installed ;)
[13:14] <DistroJockey> !fglrx | xen_
[13:14] <ubotu> xen_: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[13:14] <xen_> no
[13:15] <lal> has anyone here got a blu-ray to play under ubuntu?
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> dahui: you can always use ndiswrapper but eeexubuntu states it has native drivers
[13:15] <Dr_willis> icesword,  not going to happen.. not goint to need it, or try it.. or try to emulate it..
[13:15] <lopin> Mine's labelled as a 5006, but it's actually a 5007
[13:15] <icesword> Dr_willis, no,just see how it works
[13:15] <xen_> wtf, i get this with fglrxinfo: OpenGL version string: 1.2 (2.1 Mesa 7.0.1), but then when i do this: fglrxinfo -display :0
[13:15] <xen_>  i get OpenGL version string: 2.1.7412 Release ????
[13:15] <lopin> Vista actually got something right for once *gasp*!
[13:15] <icesword> Dr_willis, no,plz,doctor wills
[13:16] <dahui> ActionParsnip: << but eeexubuntu states it has native drivers >> which did not work for my eeepc as mentioned ;) at least not in manual wifi config
[13:16] <xen_> makes no sense
[13:16] <icesword> Dr_willis, pm?
[13:16] <Dr_willis> icesword,  why? i aint going to use it, i dont even care about it. :)
[13:16] <dahui> ActionParsnip: installing with router dhcp enabled and automatic config of wifi .... 97 % ;)
[13:17] <icesword> Dr_willis, :(
[13:17] <icesword> Dr_willis, were you scared or just thinks your network is too fast,or just be lazy to new things
[13:17] <icesword> to try
[13:18] <binarical-app> !offtopic
[13:18] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[13:18] <icesword> yaaaaa
[13:18] <Lamego> icesword, could you stop with your offtopic conversation ? If you care about that app use it, don't bore us
[13:18] <Dr_willis> icesword,  i dont need it. and i dont even use windows..  and no one else cares either.
[13:19] <lopin> lal, bluray is DRMed...  I'm not sure that Ubuntu supports much DRM besides CSS...
[13:19] <xen_> can someone take a look at this please: http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4650305&postcount=1
[13:19] <icesword> it is not windows thing,just have a loook at how it works,then write a good tool for ubuntu,and sorrrrrry,for offtopic
[13:19] <lopin> dahui, You have a SOFTWARE controlled card.  For some reason, there needs to be a special patch to get the thing to turn on...
[13:20] <Lamego> xen_, have you changed xog.conf to use flgrx ?
[13:20] <binarical-app> icesword: you have to do your own research, we cant help you learn
[13:20] <xen_> !paste
[13:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[13:20] <icesword> i am a noob
[13:20] <dahui> lopin: hmmmh ... but yet the maula config of wifi will not work ;(
[13:20] <dahui> oops manual
[13:21] <lal> lopin i've read that some people have got it working through dumphd but I cannot find the aacskey.c file to compile
[13:21] <xen_> Lamego heres my xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62108/
[13:21] <xen_> and yeah fglrx is enabled as far as i can see
[13:21] <lopin> lal O.O  You done went over my head...
[13:21] <Lamego> xen_, check your Xorg.log
[13:21] <binarical-app> icesword: being a noob is something you want to get over eventually
[13:21] <lopin> lal I get stuff set up, and I get it to do the pretty sometimes...
[13:21] <lopin> That's it...
[13:21] <xen_> ok
[13:22] <lopin> Well, i'm going into windows real quick to try and get this damn flash converted to something I can use...
[13:22] <icesword> goodbye,then,ubuntu,i will buy one if i have money someday
[13:22] <icesword> i mean ubuntu laptop
[13:22] <binarical-app> sorry man
[13:24] <xen_> Lamengo i can make absolutley no sense of Xorg.log lol
[13:24] <xen_> !paste
[13:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[13:24] <Dr_willis> i find my cheap $400 on sale laptop - does linux very well.
[13:24] <sheepz> hello
[13:24] <xen_> heres xorg.log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62109/
[13:25] <sheepz> could someone tell me how to get this page working in mozilla or ies4linux http://pacsweb.musc.edu/Launch
[13:25] <sheepz> ?
[13:25] <icesword> Dr_willis, 400$,how wide screen
[13:26] <xen_> anyone make sense of that xorg.log? i only see code lol
[13:26] <icesword> sheepz, my browser isn't supported?
[13:26] <sheepz> yes, it says that
[13:27] <sheepz> but i think the main problem here is java
[13:27] <icesword> binarical-app, it works！
[13:27] <sheepz> ?
[13:27] <takeshi> mmm
[13:27] <Dr_willis> icesword,  that one 15 inch. got another  for $450 that was a little bigger a few months ago also.
[13:27] <binarical-app> cool man , have fun
[13:27] <takeshi> hola alguien sabe español
[13:27] <Hattori> is there a command line program that tells the length of a movie file?
[13:28] <DJones> !es | takeshi
[13:28] <ubotu> takeshi: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[13:28] <sheepz> :/
[13:28] <icesword> Dr_willis, what brand,
[13:28] <takeshi> ok
[13:28] <Dr_willis> Hattori,  perhaps mencoder?
[13:28] <Dr_willis> icesword, ones a compaq, other is a noname :)
[13:28] <icesword> noname usually means bad things
[13:29] <icesword> then i want one,it is dirt cheap
[13:29] <binarical-app> not in hardware
[13:29] <icesword> binarical-app, ?
[13:29] <icesword> binarical-app, there is nothing in your site,only it works,lol
[13:30] <binarical-app> no name depending on where its from, just make sure your chipsets are compatible or boot it live before you buy
[13:30] <icesword> yaaaa,what about i name my product in other's brand
[13:31] <Dr_willis> ive seen laptops 'identical' to ones sold by those high-end-gaming laptop sites. with just the 'badge' switched to some other  unknown brand, and a large drop in price.
[13:31] <Hattori> Dr_willis: nothing more specific?
[13:31] <Hattori> Dr_willis: how to use that thing to get just movie length?
[13:31] <icesword> noname usually means bad
[13:31] <dahui> here we go ... fresh install of eeeXubuntu 7.10 from live CD on asus eeePC with dhcp enabled in router, after install and from live CD as well no manual configuration of wireless device :( AND NOW ????
[13:31] <Dr_willis> Hattori,  not really. check the manuals. that thing has more options then a.. err.. hmm.. somnthing that has lots of options.. :)
[13:31] <icesword> like i see today in ebay there is 16g pendrive which of brand is sony
[13:32] <icesword> of which
[13:32] <binarical-app> icesword: dude we want to talk ubuntu and not debate hardware
[13:32] <binarical-app> icesword: you should be happy with your own desicions and not need our approval
[13:32] <icesword> naaaa,hardware need os,os need hardware,:p
[13:33] <Ozerk> helo
[13:33] <icesword> binarical-app, no,you take it wrong,you even heard of 16g pendrive,yaa,it is fake
[13:33] <Ozerk> may i ask a little bit technicaly questions here ?
[13:33] <dahui> I am desolated, since 3 days I try to get maual wifi config to work in xubuntu without success ... pls help :(
[13:34] <Dr_willis> Ive seen 16gb pendrives on sale here - i belive..  not got todays salepapers.. but i pretty sure they are that size now
[13:34] <binarical-app> dahui: you wanna give the ultimate "mad-wifi" a shot?
[13:35] <dahui> any help is appreciated what can I do?
[13:35] <yahuuu> hi again
[13:35] <icesword> yaaaa,for me,i think it is fake,i don't some toooooo new things
[13:35] <icesword> yaaa
[13:35] <icesword> yahuuu, welcome back
[13:35] <yahuuu> thank u icesword
[13:35] <dahui> binarical-app: what can I do please?
[13:35] <yahuuu> icesword: nothing happend, i wait for 30 minutes but still the same black screen " type help for more help commands"
[13:36] <icesword> er,em.
[13:36] <dahui> I mean I can go online and install things as long as I am on dhcp, but I would like to go manual wifi config
[13:36] <icesword> before that,what it said there
[13:36] <icesword> coz of what?
[13:36] <Dr_willis>  	  A-Data 16GB USB Flash Drive   $60
[13:36] <DistroJockey> Dr_willis: Corsair  CMFUSB2.0-32GB 32GB  USB Flash Drive
[13:36] <yahuuu> u said, boot loader problem might be
[13:37] <binarical-app> dahui: http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/Distro/Ubuntu
[13:37] <dahui> thx will lokk it up ;)
[13:38] <yahuuu> Dr_willis: do uknow something abt installing a fresh ubuntu?
[13:38] <icesword> Dr_willis, yaaa,livecd install has an option for view verbose mode of the bootup ,right,i think it is esc
[13:38] <jabroni5> <-- FIXED HIS PROBLEM: If you run Parallels on a Mac, and try to install Ubuntu 7.10, you may have unreconcilable graphics issues during install. If you install Ubuntu 7.04 build, most everything is flawless. See Macworld, Oct. '07, "Linux on the Mac"
[13:38] <mactaylor> does fragmentation exist in ubuntu?
[13:38] <DJones> !defrag | mact
[13:39] <binarical-app> yahuuu: so what did you do
[13:39] <mactaylor> !defrag
[13:39] <ubotu> The default Ubuntu filesystem (ext3) is engineered to avoid fragmentation issues in most cases, see http://linkpot.net/behead/ for a simple example on how it achieves this. A package "defrag" is available in !Universe, however its use is not safe, and is generally not needed.
[13:39] <icesword> Dr_willis, don't be so serious about that usb drive deal,i only heard someone complained about fake things like 32g pendrive some sor
[13:39] <icesword> t
[13:39] <dahui> binarical-app: it says "In case you did a manual install, try installing linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) and that’s it." --- how do it do that please excuse my knoobness :/
[13:39] <Hurre> hi
[13:39] <yahuuu> binarical-app: click on detect disk error and it took 30 minutes with same black sceen and nothing happend
[13:39] <mactaylor> ok fragmentation is there but not noticable
[13:40] <prathibha> I have a problem related to partitions.
[13:40] <NoTownKasper> I'm having a bit of trouble accessing a drive on my system...
[13:40] <Hurre> i search free porn sites plz
[13:40] <icesword> yahuuu, have you use that cd installed ubuntu successfully
[13:40] <yahuuu> Hurre: lol
[13:41] <icesword> if not,try alternate one
[13:41] <yahuuu> icesword: i tried 4 ubuntu CD's and facing same problem :(
[13:41] <Hurre> who know a free pornpic site??
[13:41] <icesword> and anyways,i will go back to sleep,and Dr_willis don't be angry with me
[13:41] <DJones> !ops | Hurre
[13:41] <ubotu> Hurre: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpatrick or jussi01!
[13:41] <xen_> can someone help me with this: http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4650305&postcount=1
[13:41] <yahuuu> last time i mean 3 yaers back, i was able to install from the same CD succesfuly and very easy
[13:42] <prathibha> I have some debian based partitions in my machine.I installed Windows over it. I tried to install one more debian based OS. But in partition it is not showing any of the already existing partitions.
[13:42] <Dr_willis>  	  Patriot 32GB USB Flash Drive (Certified for Windows Vista)   $250
[13:42] <binarical-app> yahuuu: your problem is your boot loader not your hard disks
[13:42] <dahui> binarical-app: it says "In case you did a manual install, try installing linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) and that’s it." --- how do it do that please excuse my knoobness
[13:42] <yahuuu> so how to fiz it binarical-app?
[13:42] <yahuuu> fix*
[13:43] <prathibha> I tried through gparted. It displayed,cannot have overlapping partitions.
[13:43] <DistroJockey> Dr_willis: http://www.corsair.com/products/voyager.aspx
[13:43] <prathibha> How to recover my partitions.
[13:43] <Lamego> dahlia, on a terminal run: sudo apt-get install  linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[13:43] <icesword> Dr_willis, ahhhh,you are still searching that,drive usb thing,don't be so serious,and don't be angry with me.bye
[13:43] <prathibha> Any one can u help me to solve my problem
[13:44] <dahui> thx lamego
[13:44] <Dr_willis> i was checking prices. :)   THE $60 one was rather reasonable.
[13:44] <dahui> doing software update at the moment
[13:44] <prathibha> I want my overlapped partitions. Is it possible.
[13:44] <binarical-app> can someone help yahuuu with his boot loader : he needs to reconfigure it.... i think he should reinstall
[13:44] <prathibha> Any one around to help me
[13:44] <yahuuu> plese guys help me
[13:45] <xen_> can someone help me with this: http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4650305&postcount=1
[13:45] <NoTownKasper> If I'd read the question...lol
[13:45] <yahuuu> i want to install a fresh ubuntu 7.10 on my HDD
[13:45] <binarical-app> or wait for a bit, i have to fix dahui
[13:45] <Dr_willis> overlapped partitions?  Hmm
[13:45] <Pici> yahuuu: okay? Whats the issue?
[13:45] <dahui> Lamego:  http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/Distro/Ubuntu and I do need to disable "ath_hal" ??? as described ?
[13:45] <prathibha> Dr_willis, how the solve the problem
[13:46] <yahuuu> Pici: i want to install ubuntu on my 2nd HDD , when i insert CD into dvd rom and restart it, and when it ask to install ubuntu, after kernal loading, it shows black screen and nothing happend
[13:46] <prathibha> Dr_willis, the partition editor is not showing any of the partitions. It is showing 149 GB unallocated
[13:46] <Pici> yahuuu: You may need to use the alternate CD.
[13:46] <Pici> !alternate | yahuuu
[13:46] <ubotu> yahuuu: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[13:47] <NoTownKasper> Heh...smart bot.
[13:47] <idlestar> hi
[13:47] <prathibha> Dr_willis, It's displaying can't have overlapping partitions
[13:47] <binarical-app> dahui: get this pac :http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/net/madwifi-tools . make sure you get the correct on corresponding to your system architecture. un pack it with the manager, and get back to me if you cant get any further
[13:47] <ItchyHoBo> !minimal
[13:47] <ubotu> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[13:47] <yahuuu> ubotu: but i installed ubuntu on the same machine with the same CD 3 months ago
[13:47] <Dr_willis> prathibha,  you made partitions on that drive yet?  You cant have cylinder #'s that overlap.
[13:47] <Pici> yahuuu: ubotu is a bot.
[13:47] <DistroJockey> !hi | idlestar
[13:47] <ubotu> idlestar: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[13:47] <yahuuu> lol
[13:48] <idlestar> lol ;)
[13:48] <prathibha> Dr_willis, what?
[13:48] <kaktuskatta> Hi! I'm having problems with. my targus usb hub in ubuntu 7.10. The system freezes when I hook it in, and all other USB-equipment stops responding. lsusb doesn't show anything, and it takes forever to list contents from lsusb.
[13:48] <yahuuu> Pici: so how to resolve the problem ?
[13:48] <Pici> yahuuu: Have you tried the safe graphics mode?
[13:48] <binarical-app> yahuuu: i think that grub is just not seeing this second hd, you may want to chack you bios setings
[13:48] <ItchyHoBo> !hi | ubotu
[13:48] <ubotu> ubotu: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[13:48] <prathibha> Dr_willis, I have some 5 partitions in my m/c including windows
[13:48] <DistroJockey> hehe
[13:48] <NoTownKasper> Ok, Here's one for you guru's. 2 hard disks on this box, 1 IDE 40gb, setup as, I believe, primary slave, and 1 scsi, 300gb, setup as primary master. IDE drive is formatted NTFS and is holding a few important files I need to migrate to my Ubuntu instalation on the scsi drive.
[13:48] <yahuuu> yes i tried each and every option there a million times :(
[13:49] <prathibha> Dr_willis, after installing windows only i have this problem
[13:49] <ItchyHoBo> can we get ubotu into some kind of loop?
[13:49] <e_r_c_e> hello, i'd like you to tell me one thing
[13:49] <CoasterMaster> Is there any way to mount the hard drive from the liveCD? sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hdd gives mount: special device /dev/hda1 does not exist
[13:49] <DistroJockey> e_r_c_e: tells you "one thing"
[13:49] <yahuuu> binarical-app: what to change in the bios setting?
[13:49] <bod_> hey guys, im planning on using zenity dialog box's in a program, but i need to be able to use the exit status in an if statement, is the exit status stored in a variable somewhere?#
[13:49] <soundray> NoTownKasper: there is no such thing as a "primary master" if it's a SCSI drive
[13:49] <alex_83> Afternoon gents, can anyone help me with configuring exim for load balancing?
[13:50] <xen_> can someone help me with this: http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4650305&postcount=1
[13:50] <binarical-app> yahuuu: get a nice fresh cd of ubuntu 7.10 burn it slowly...very slowly, then set your bios to boot the cd boot, and install
[13:50] <NoTownKasper> Heh. Sorry, my hardware skills are...a little old school.
[13:50] <prathibha> Dr_willis, after installing windows when I tried to install another partition the manual partitioning is showing nothing
[13:50] <soundray> CoasterMaster: get a list of existing partition devices with 'sudo fdisk -l'
[13:50] <ItchyHoBo> alex_83, there also might be some ladies in here, (i hope so)
[13:50] <binarical-app> yahuuu: in bios can you see all your hds?
[13:50] <prathibha> Dr_willis, but I am able to boot into all my old partitions
[13:50] <yahuuu> binarical-app : :( i triend this option tooo, but its simply reject to install :((
[13:50] <e_r_c_e> i have comps 1.1 and 1.2 and  router 1.3, there's another network 2.1 (router, i haven't got pass) 2.2 (comp.). so, i'd need somekind of remote desktop with X just like on XP but not any kind of vpn or ssh (ssh does not support X i think...)
[13:50] <wers> how do I subscript on openoffice.org?
[13:50] <yahuuu> yes i can see both HDDs
[13:51] <alex_83> ItchyHoBo, Hope so to ;)
[13:51] <NoTownKasper> Anyway, my problem, I tried to mount the IDE drive, but I'm rewarded with 'no such file/directory' errors.
[13:51] <soundray> NoTownKasper: anyway, you haven't really said what the problem is
[13:51] <prathibha> Dr_willis, is there any way to solve the problem. If so, help me
[13:51] <binarical-app> yahuuu:you dont want to install just yet, you want your old sstem back p and reuning u
[13:51] <alex_83> 'k lemme try ans simplify... any exim experts around?
[13:51] <yahuuu> binarical-app: i format the 2nd HDD and want a clean installation
[13:52] <soundray> wers: Format-Character-Position-Subscript
[13:52] <CoasterMaster> soundray, that's what I needed, thanks! (it was sda1....didn't know that was SATA lol)
[13:52] <DistroJockey> e_r_c_e: try Applications - Internet -Remote Desktop Viewer
[13:52] <binarical-app> yahuuu: choose now or forever hold your peace
[13:52] <e_r_c_e> DistroJockey, i want reverse this, i want from other comp watch mine
[13:53] <Dr_willis> prathibha,  you may want to start by pastebining, the out put of 'sudo fdisk -l' and  sumarizing the problem on the pastebin page also.. then asking the channel for more help. I gotta run to the bank. take care.
[13:53] <xen_> can someone help me with this: http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4650305&postcount=1
[13:53] <soundray> CoasterMaster: it isn't necessarily -- it depends on your IDE controller whether Ubuntu reports a drive as /dev/sd? or /dev/hd?
[13:53] <CoasterMaster> soundray, gotcha...well either way I can recover all my stuff so I thank you
[13:53] <DistroJockey> e_r_c_e: ahh, maybe vnc is the way to go (not my area atm)
[13:53] <yahuuu> binarical-app: chose now or forevr under which menu?
[13:54] <wers> soundray, thank you so much. is there any shortcut? :)
[13:54] <e_r_c_e> damn, who's area is vnc?
[13:54] <soundray> NoTownKasper: how are you currently booted, and how are you mounting?
[13:54] <e_r_c_e> and w-t-f is vnc?
[13:54] <binarical-app> yahuuu: red or blue
[13:54] <ndlovu> e_r_c_e, you can share your desktop with vncserver: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
[13:54] <NoTownKasper> Er...
[13:54] <binarical-app> yahuuu:heh, okay get your cd and install it
[13:54] <NoTownKasper> Booted in Ubuntu, on the scsi drive.
[13:54] <e_r_c_e> ndlovu, i remember now :D
[13:54] <yahuuu> binarical-app :)
[13:54] <binarical-app> yahuuu: you know how to do that  correct?
[13:54] <yahuuu> yes i did it once and it was so easy just a few clicks and done
[13:54] <DistroJockey> !vnc
[13:54] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[13:54] <e_r_c_e> but damn, this is for 2 users on one comp, i need to diff comps and same-a-like connection as in XPs
[13:54] <NoTownKasper> soundray: Booted in Ubuntu on the scsi drive. As far as I know, nothing else is mounted.
[13:55] <binarical-app> yahuuu: its now even easyer with 7.10
[13:55] <yahuuu> i have 7.10 CD
[13:55] <NoTownKasper> soundray: I'm something of a linux novice...so forgive my seeming idiocy.
[13:55] <xen_> can someone help me with this: http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4650305&postcount=1
[13:55] <yahuuu> binarical-app: thats why i am here and asking so many questions, that i am facing problems
[13:55] <ndlovu> e_r_c_e, I think it works for two different computers. you would use vncserver on your computer and vncviewer on the other computer
[13:55] <binarical-app> yahuuu: the live cd will boot and you can see if the systems is running okay before you do any serious irapairable damge to your system
[13:55] <moonlight> yo
[13:56] <e_r_c_e> ndlovu, sudo apt-get install vnc-server?
[13:56] <soundray> wers: you can go through Tools-Customize-Toolbars and add a button to the Formatting toolbar
[13:56] <yahuuu> binarical-app: this is what i want to see , and cant get that thing
[13:56] <yahuuu> :(
[13:56] <rhineheart_m> hello. how to know what ports are being used such as pop3 and imap?
[13:56] <binarical-app> yahuuu: in the case of a blank screen you probably should try and turn off your hds before you install on them
[13:56] <wers> ooh. cool. :) how do I type the mew character? :)
[13:56] <kaktuskatta> anyone here with a solution to my issue regarding the targus USB hub?
[13:56] <moonlight> my conection internet out
[13:56] <e_r_c_e> o-o
[13:56] <ndlovu> e_r_c_e, I think it would be sudo apt-get install vncserver
[13:57] <soundray> NoTownKasper: all forgiven. Sorry to sound kurt, I'm just in several conversations
[13:57] <e_r_c_e> ndlovu, i saw vnc4server????
[13:57] <soundray> NoTownKasper: do a 'sudo fdisk -l' to see all mountable partitions
[13:57] <DistroJockey> xen_: what's not working? Your xorg.conf looks ok to me
[13:57] <ndlovu> e_r_c_e, but maybe sudo apt-get install vnc does the whole lot
[13:57] <yahuuu> binarical-app: can u pm me for a second?
[13:57] <NoTownKasper> soundray: No worries. I used to do tech support too. :P
[13:57] <ndlovu> e_r_c_e, no idea I'm afraid. I've used it a couple of times, but I'm no expert on the packages
[13:57] <xen_> DistroJockey i want to use the fglrx driver, not the mesa driver
[13:58] <e_r_c_e> vnc4-common - Virtual network computing server software
[13:58] <e_r_c_e> vnc4server - Virtual network computing server software
[13:58] <e_r_c_e> vncsnapshot - A utility that takes JPEG snapshots from VNC servers
[13:58] <e_r_c_e> vtgrab - A VNC like console monitoring
[13:58] <e_r_c_e> x11vnc - VNC server to allow remote access to an existing X session
[13:58] <FloodBot1> e_r_c_e: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:58] <e_r_c_e> :|
[13:58] <rhineheart_m> hello. how to know what ports are being used for pop3 and imap?
[13:58] <NoTownKasper> Aha!
[13:58] <soundray> wers: you have to highlight text you've typed already, then click the button
[13:59] <TheMafia> I want to switch to a non-graphical runlevel so I cna figure out why X won't start, where do I change this in gutsy?
[13:59] <NoTownKasper> Excelent. That's all I needed.
[13:59] <soundray> wers: I'm sure you can also bind a shortcut key to a macro, but it's probably better to join an OpenOffice channel and ask there for help with that
[13:59] <DistroJockey> xen_: min
[13:59] <bowen0507> hi, my screen keeps blanking, I have dpms set to off in xorg.conf, I run "xset -dpms" in ~/.bashrc but still after 2h30 my screen blanks! I need it to be on permanently, anyone any ideas on how to get around this?
[13:59] <binarical-app> yahuuu???????
[13:59] <NoTownKasper> Thank you very much. And expect a glowing review for the ubuntu community. :D No, I won't tell you where.
[13:59] <ItchyHoBo> rhineheart_m, pop3 is 110; imap 220
[13:59] <wers> thanks, soundray!! :)
[13:59] <soundray> TheMafia: 'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop' or just go to a text console with Ctrl-Alt-F1
[14:00] <prathibha> The problem is clearly mentioned in this link http://pastebin.com/m40481c37
[14:00] <ndlovu> e_r_c_e, that webpage gives some pretty good info on the subject, you might want to work through that. I think it's probably installed by default anyway.
[14:01] <prathibha> Any one around to help me
[14:01] <wirrwarr> moin
[14:01] <DistroJockey> xen_: you don't seem to have a Module Section
[14:01] <rhineheart_m> how to list the ports used in ubuntu?
[14:02] <hirofans> Now doing is terrific, strong function more beautiful interface, and security is not bad
[14:02] <TheMafia> soundray, I can't get to a txt console, my system hangs
[14:02] <DistroJockey> xen_:  my bad, you do
[14:02] <JuJuBee> I have a dropbox folder on a server.  When my students drop a file into it, I want the ownership to change to me (for the file)  Can this be done?
[14:02] <xen_> DistroJockey yeah i cant really see why its showing up as mesa, because the device driver clearly says fglrx :S
[14:02] <Pici> rhineheart_m: netstat -tanp will list all the current listening and established connections.
[14:03] <soundray> TheMafia: then you should do a MagicSysRq reboot (Ctrl-Alt-PrintScreen R E I S U B) and boot in recovery mode (second entry in the grub menu)
[14:03] <DistroJockey> xen_: what does your  uname -a  say?
[14:03] <xen_> DistroJockey the xorg.0.log is posted at the end of the post, but i cant make head or tale of it
[14:03] <dromer> hi all, I recenty replaced my motherboard/proc, which has an onboard GPU, so I changed the driver, now X will start, but I can't get past login, when I log in I just get back to the loginscreen (run Kubuntu btw), I cheked Xorg.0.log and it gives: (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found, I checked my xorg.conf and there is nothing nvidia anywhere
[14:03] <wers> how do I type the equal sign with the slash in the middle?
[14:03] <Professor_K> hi everybody
[14:03] <CardinalFang> Hi all.  What's the name of the program that sets up X in hardy?
[14:03] <compwiz18> !hardy | CardinalFang
[14:03] <ubotu> CardinalFang: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[14:03] <xen_> DistroJockey Linux Mycomp 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Feb 12 07:42:25 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[14:05] <Professor_K> I have a small question: I have a Samsung Q45, and it's a pain to install any unix based system on it because it's not fully compatible (acpi problems mainly), will the new version of ubuntu work better on it?
[14:05] <CardinalFang> wers: The best way is to go to your keyboard preferences, and add a "compose" key for something like that right-win button that you never use.  Then, compose + "/" + "="  .
[14:05] <ItchyHoBo> Professor_K, u'll nerer know until u try ;)
[14:05] <wers> thanks, CardinalFang :)
[14:06] <prathibha> Any provide solution for query
[14:06] <Randomtime> prathibha? What was the query?
[14:06] <arya19> leh gbng g?
[14:06] <DistroJockey> xen_: I don't think I can help atm. If you mention what video card you have (if you haven't already) somebody else can hopefully help
[14:07] <Pici> prathibha: Are you running Ubuntu or Debian?
[14:07] <Professor_K> ItchyHoBo: I tried a lot (too much?) with gutsy and it is really a pain, I hope problems will be solved in hardy (but I doubt :S)
[14:07] <xen_> DistroJockey HD 2600 XT Radeon, but thanks anyway
[14:07] <prathibha> The problem is clearly mentioned in this link http://pastebin.com/m40481c37
[14:07] <DistroJockey> xen_: best of luck
[14:07] <prathibha> Pici, Please go thro this link, http://pastebin.com/m40481c37
[14:07] <Professor_K> btw, all the mac/apple are fully compatible with ubuntu right?
[14:08] <Pici> prathibha: I did.
[14:08] <prathibha> Pici, ok
[14:08] <CardinalFang> wers: Beware that some tools can't take complex characters.  The command line, e.g.
[14:09] <soundray> Professor_K: no, you can't rely on everything working when you install Ubuntu on a Mac.
[14:10] <soundray> Professor_K: for example, Apple tends to use incompatible Broadcom chips for wireless
[14:10] <frank_the_tank> hello
[14:10] <Professor_K> soundray: I see, that sucks...
[14:10] <Pici> prathibha: Are you running Ubuntu or Debian?
[14:11] <prathibha> Pici, debian.
[14:11] <soundray> Professor_K: I find Ubuntu works well as a guest in VMware
[14:11] <Pici> prathibha: Then you need to ask in #debian  not #ubuntu
[14:11] <frank_the_tank> do you know, why my title bar of all folders and applications is gone?
[14:11] <DistroJockey> soundray: but Ubuntu will be smart and support those chips :)
[14:11] <sipior> Professor_K: if you've an older model, the wireless is likely supported. there seems to be a six-month lag
[14:11] <prathibha> Pici, Ubuntu is also there in my m/c
[14:11] <soundray> DistroJockey: nope
[14:11] <DistroJockey> soundray: ohh?
[14:12] <Pici> prathibha: But thats not what you're using currently.
[14:12] <prathibha> Pici, It's related to whole thing and not only ubuntu or debian doesn't matter
[14:12] <sheepz> so nobody knows how to get this page working?
[14:12] <SherokiX> hi
[14:13] <Professor_K> sipior: you mean that the incompatibility is generaly not definitive and that generally about six months later it becomes compatible?
[14:13] <sheepz> http://pacsweb.musc.edu/Launch
[14:13] <soundray> DistroJockey: my AirPort Extreme card is not supported in gutsy (haven't tried hardy yet)
[14:13] <DistroJockey> sheepz: I know that system sorta
[14:13] <sheepz> ?
[14:13] <IndyGunFreak> sheepz: looks like you need java
[14:14] <sheepz> but i have java :S
[14:14] <binarical-app> soundray: DistroJockey: madwifi works wonders there
[14:14] <sheepz> still doesn't work
[14:14] <sheepz> this it work for you, IndyGunFreak?
[14:14] <DistroJockey> soundray: They'll get there
[14:14] <IndyGunFreak> sheepz: no, but i don't have java installed.
[14:14] <IndyGunFreak> been meanign to get around to it though
[14:14] <sheepz> haha
[14:14] <sipior> Professor_K: more or less. i believe the first-generation macbooks have supported wireless now. i'm sure the forums contain more information regarding the status of hardware support
[14:14] <soundray> binarical-app: madwifi is for Atheros chips, not Broadcom, right?
[14:14] <sheepz> this seems hopeless :/
[14:14] <frank_the_tank>  do you know, why my title bar of all folders and applications is gone? i just installed gnome under kubuntu and now i don't have title bars in gnome
[14:15] <e_r_c_e> damn
[14:15] <binarical-app> atheros
[14:15] <e_r_c_e> my vnc sux 4 ever
[14:15] <prathibha> Pici, The partition editor in ubuntu is also showing the same error
[14:15] <e_r_c_e> damn
[14:15] <pajamian> sheepz: it looks like a case of a brain-dead webmaster not properly supporting decent browsers and operating systems.
[14:15] <Professor_K> sipior: ok I will go check the forum then, I will see what I can find. Thanks anyway
[14:15] <soundray> binarical-app: so how is madwifi going to work wonders for a Broadcom card?
[14:15] <prathibha> Pici, If any have faced the problem and have solved help me also to solve
[14:15] <sheepz> pajamian: true
[14:16] <e_r_c_e> ndlovu: i installed server on ubuntu & client @ windows XP
[14:16] <sheepz> the matter is quite complicated
[14:16] <e_r_c_e> but they refuse to connect
[14:16] <IndyGunFreak> LjL: ?..
[14:16] <sheepz> some people are claiming that they cannot use the web1000 system because they are running linux
[14:16] <DistroJockey> sheepz: I'm sure :)
[14:16] <sheepz> and i want prove them wrong
[14:16] <sheepz> DistroJockey, can't answer your PM, have to register first
[14:16] <IndyGunFreak> sheepz: well maybe they are right
[14:16] <e_r_c_e> sheepz, get me working my remote and i'll belive it
[14:16] <e_r_c_e> :D
[14:17] <DistroJockey> sheepz: it is a tad ot
[14:17] <e_r_c_e> LjL, WTF?
[14:17] <Pici> e_r_c_e: Does it matter?
[14:17] <LjL> !language
[14:17] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[14:17] <LjL> and yes, what do you care. look at the quits.
[14:17] <sheepz> IndyGunFreak: there must be SOME way : D
[14:17] <IndyGunFreak> sheepz: who knows.
[14:18] <dahui> binarical-app:  how can I install the madwifi-tools (1:0.9.2+dfsg-1) with synaptic? or manual?
[14:18] <Pici> prathibha: The first parition for some reason overlaps many of the others.  You need to somehow get rid of that.  Parted may be able to do that, but I don't how exactly do do that.
[14:18] <e_r_c_e> damn
[14:18] <sheepz> i tried to use ies4linux, but after having installed java for wine, the page just crashes the ies4linux app
[14:19] <xen_> can someone help me with this: http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4650305&postcount=1
[14:19] <pajamian> sheepz: best bet is to email the webmaster and complain that their site doesn't work.
[14:19] <pajamian> you can tell them that you've had other ubuntu users verify it.
[14:19] <soundray> xen_: I've looked at it, but I can't help (just so you don't feel ignored)
[14:20] <binarical-app> dahui: you got it fom the site i pasted? its easyer to do it via the site since other wise you would have to add the repository manually
[14:20] <xen_> np ty anyway
[14:20] <IndyGunFreak> sheepz: i have a login/password option now... using Opera.
[14:20] <DistroJockey> sheepz: web1000 is a pretty badly designed piece of software
[14:20] <dahui> binarical-app: but how? the site says use synaptic and synaptic says do it manual, huahuahua I am a noob :(
[14:21] <sheepz> opera?
[14:21] <sheepz> on ubuntu, right?
[14:21] <IndyGunFreak> http://www.opera.com
[14:21] <dahui> i choose to mirrors but dont get it on iste
[14:21] <IndyGunFreak> sheepz: well, debian, but yes.
[14:21] <sheepz> hmm, so i should try opera?
[14:21] <pajamian> sheepz: I tried with both FF and opera
[14:21] <Kcaj2> Anyone here use Minefield?
[14:21] <IndyGunFreak> that would be my suggestion.
[14:21] <erUSUL> dahui: sudo apt-get install madwifi-tools
[14:21] <pajamian> sheepz: both give the same result
[14:21] <IndyGunFreak> pajamian: it worked for me in Opera, but not in FF
[14:21] <binarical-app> dahui: you dont have to do it with synaptic or the fancy way to do it, right now you just want it to work.
[14:21] <sheepz> ok
[14:21] <sheepz> i'll try it out
[14:22] <pajamian> IndyGunFreak: I didn't upgrade opera, though, maybe I should
[14:22] <dahui> ok :( but how lease tell me how
[14:22] <dahui> :(
[14:22] <IndyGunFreak> sheepz: hold on, i might have the beta version of opera, let me check
[14:22] <IndyGunFreak> yup.
[14:22] <pajamian> IndyGunFreak: though I would imagine that ubuntu should upgrade it for me.
[14:22] <IndyGunFreak> sheepz: i'm using Opera 9.5 beta 1
[14:22] <DistroJockey> sheepz: not to mention old software
[14:22] <dahui> I go on site choose a mirror and get a cryptic page
[14:22] <soundray> dahui: go to System-Administration-Software Sources and make sure that the universe repository is enabled
[14:22] <IndyGunFreak> pajamian: unlikely, its not managed by the repositories usuall
[14:22] <binarical-app> dahui: so you clicked on a mirro close to you then .... nothing happended?
[14:23] <Kcaj2> There is no channel on here for Minefield?
[14:23] <Kcaj2> I think I found a bug
[14:23] <Kcaj2> If anybody else uses it
[14:23] <Kcaj2> you might be able to rest
[14:23] <Kcaj2> test*
[14:23] <soundray> dahui: after that, you can update your package list and get madwifi-tools through synaptic
[14:23] <binarical-app> dahui: try to open the link in a new tab , right click and select
[14:23] <e_r_c_e> vuala, i just hat to run vncserver :D
[14:23] <soundray> dahui: no need to do it the roundabout way that binarical-app suggests
[14:24] <dahui> confused :(
[14:24] <binarical-app> dahui: listen to soundray.... it will be easyer his way
[14:24] <dahui> and don't get it :( system is in german :(
[14:24] <Pici> Kcaj2: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/
[14:24] <sheepz> ffs, have to go afk, thanks for all the help guys
[14:24] <dahui> thx
[14:24] <pajamian> IndyGunFreak: I might have gottenit from medibuntu, not sure.
[14:24] <dahui> soundray:  could ya explain more beginners like ;( sorry
[14:24] <pajamian> IndyGunFreak: it is definately installed from a package.
[14:25] <soundray> dahui: meet me in #ubuntu-de -- I'll try to explain it there.
[14:25] <IndyGunFreak> pajamian: hmm, then if medibuntu maintains the version in the repos, it should update for you.
[14:25] <IndyGunFreak> i installed it from the .deb file on opera's site
[14:25] <dahui> synaptic shows on searh that the tools are installed
[14:25] <pajamian> IndyGunFreak: it's been a while, I don't know, maybe it was the .deb from opera's web site.
[14:25] <dahui> reinstall says do it manually
[14:26] <soundray> dahui: /join #ubuntu-de please
[14:26] <binarical-app> dahui: manually means to add the respos in synaptic
[14:26] <dahui> soundray I am there
[14:27] <pajamian> IndyGunFreak: at any rate, I'm upgrading it and will try again.  I usually use FF but keep most other browsers installed for testing websites with.
[14:28] <IndyGunFreak> pajamian: same here.. i actually keep opera around because it can save websites as files(.mht filess)
[14:28] <pajamian> IndyGunFreak: do you know how to tell what repo a package was installed from?
[14:29] <QuickGold> i deleted a file from the command line (using the rm command). is there an undelete? Or a recycling bin?
[14:29] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, no i don't
[14:29] <erUSUL> QuickGold: nope
[14:29] <sipior> QuickGold: sorry, no.
[14:31] <IndyGunFreak> hope it wasn't important
[14:31] <pajamian> ok, opera 9.27 is doing something different but still not working, afaict.
[14:31] <pajamian> ...actualyl it does the same
[14:31] <pajamian> IndyGunFreak: what java do you have installed?
[14:32] <tactikalnuke> morning!
[14:32] <IndyGunFreak> lemme check
[14:33] <tactikalnuke> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/identikit/1207165353952.gif
[14:33] <tactikalnuke> PWND
[14:33] <IndyGunFreak> pajamian: looks like 6-03.  i'm almost positive i installed that from medibuntu.
[14:34] <helpmefixgrub> in grub after running the command setup (hd1) i get: Error 12: Invalid device requested
[14:34] <helpmefixgrub> what am I doing wrong?
[14:34] <IndyGunFreak> you're not telling it to use a valid device
[14:34] <helpmefixgrub> i tried setup on hd0 too
[14:34] <tactikalnuke> helpmefixgrub: what is wrong?
[14:34] <Raff7> hi
[14:34] <helpmefixgrub> IndyGunFreak: so what is the device for hda1?
[14:34] <nacho> Hi
[14:34] <IndyGunFreak> don't know, i was just telling you what the error meant
[14:34] <Raff7> how to set concurrency level (for make) in ubuntu?
[14:35] <helpmefixgrub> tactikalnuke: need to fix grub
[14:35] <helpmefixgrub> IndyGunFreak: lol :)
[14:35] <pajamian> IndyGunFreak: I don't think it's in medibuntu, I think it's in universe
[14:35] <IndyGunFreak> pajamian: java?... i thought it was in medibuntu.. could be wrong though...
[14:35] <tactikalnuke> helpmefixgrub: what do you get for an output when you type <fdisk -l>
[14:36] <pajamian> it's in multiverse
[14:36] <IndyGunFreak> ok
[14:36] <iz> whassup
[14:36] <DistroJockey> sheepz: you still there?
[14:36] <pajamian> at least according to synaptic, and I have the same version.
[14:37] <IndyGunFreak> pajamian: then it must be an issue with your version of Opera..
[14:37] <IndyGunFreak> cuz i'm rnning 9.5 B1
[14:37] <izinucs> !grub | tactikalnuke
[14:37] <ubotu> tactikalnuke: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[14:37] <helpmefixgrub> tactikalnuke: boot is on /dev/hda1
[14:37] <pajamian> IndyGunFreak: probably, I just "upgraded" to 9.27
[14:38] <^Willie^> someone here who have experience with ldap / odbc ?
[14:38] <IndyGunFreak> pajamian: sorry, that should be 9.5 B1..
[14:38] <pajamian> IndyGunFreak: yep
[14:38] <IndyGunFreak> wait, thats what i said..lol, anyways, i'm using the beta of the next version, and it works fine..lol
[14:39] <pajamian> IndyGunFreak: oh well, I'm not gonna bump up to the beta just to see if it works, sheepz can try it if he wants, hehehe.
[14:39] <tactikalnuke> ubotu: ok...I was under the assumption that grub was not finding the disk
[14:39] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[14:39] <tactikalnuke> i didn't reallize he'd completely wiped it out
[14:39] <IndyGunFreak> pajamian: i actually just went to the beta so flash would owkr
[14:39] <IndyGunFreak> *work
[14:40] <pajamian> IndyGunFreak: ahhh, ok, I didn't realize that it doesn't work in 9.27
[14:40] <IndyGunFreak> kinda weird, but it doesn'
[14:40] <Slidey> does anyone have (k)ubuntu's version of firefox working with foxytunes ?
[14:40] <helpmefixgrub> tactikalnuke: i need to reinstall grub on hda1. i'm in the grub command prompt. what do I need to run to reinstall it?
[14:41]  * N3bunel saluta
[14:41] <helpmefixgrub> tactikalnuke: i installed ubuntu and then deleted it to give archlinux more space. but i guess ubuntu decidied to overwrite the mbr with its on grub...?
[14:41] <rico> hey guys
[14:42] <tactikalnuke> helpmefixgrub: have you followed the instructions at http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html
[14:42] <tactikalnuke> on how to repair mbr/grub after it's wiped out?
[14:42] <helpmefixgrub> tactikalnuke: thanks for th link
[14:43] <rico> I tryed to install MPlayer, but the add/remove program wont let it install, yet in a review the guy says that he installed Mplayer on Ubuntu 6, any idea whats goin on?
[14:43] <helpmefixgrub> exactly what i need
[14:43] <tactikalnuke> helpmefixgrub: not a problem..if you have questions or need help with it, just ask
[14:43] <Lamego> RichiH, what error do you get when you select mplayer to be installed ?
[14:43] <Lamego> ops, i meant rico
[14:43] <tactikalnuke> helpmefixgrub: i'll help you through it if you need...it's pretty self-explanatory though
[14:43] <rhineheart_m> where to read logs if I can't receive mails from yahoo.com?
[14:44] <IndyGunFreak> logs of what?
[14:44] <izinucs> rico ubuntu 6 is actually 6.06 dapper drake. the last lts version.  You should be able to install mplayer.. try synaptic
[14:44] <Lamego> receive mails how ? SMTP ?
[14:44] <sipior> rhineheart_m: depends. how are you fetching your mail from yahoo?
[14:44] <helpmefixgrub> tactikalnuke: yeah!!!! thanks
[14:44] <rico> "Cannon install Mplayer, this application conflicts with other installed software" etc
[14:44] <IndyGunFreak> rico: yes i know whats going on, your using a distro thats 2yrs old..
[14:44] <helpmefixgrub> tactikalnuke: sorry, shoulda googlef
[14:45] <izinucs> rhineheart_m, /var/log
[14:45] <rico> im using 7.10
[14:45] <sipior> rhineheart_m: or do you mean that users from that domain can't send you mail?
[14:45] <rhineheart_m> izinucs, many files there
[14:45] <IndyGunFreak> rico: you said you were using ubuntu 6
[14:45] <rico> the guy that was writing the review was using 6.66
[14:45] <tactikalnuke> helpmefixgrub: np --glad to help
[14:45] <IndyGunFreak> ok
[14:45] <IndyGunFreak> so install mplayer from the repositories.
[14:45] <rico> in the package manager?
[14:45] <IndyGunFreak> yes
[14:45] <Lamego> rico, I guess that message includes the package creating the conflict, you will need to remove it first
[14:45] <sipior> rhineheart_m: /var/log/mail.log is a good bet :-)
[14:45] <rhineheart_m> sipior, I can send mails to yahoo but from yahoo it can't receive. I am fetching mails through squirrel
[14:46] <izinucs> rhineheart_m, you looking  for logs on a specific program? or system?
[14:46] <rico> i get this when i try via Synaptic PM
[14:46] <rico> mplayer:
[14:46] <rico>  Depends: libartsc0 (>=1.5.0-1) but it is not installable
[14:46] <rico>  Depends: libaudio2  but it is not installable
[14:47] <rico>  Depends: libmad0 (>=0.15.1b) but it is not installable
[14:47] <rico>  Depends: libmpcdec3  but it is not installable
[14:47] <rico>  Depends: libungif4g (>=4.1.4) but it is not installable
[14:47] <rico>  Depends: libxvmc1  but it is not installable
[14:47] <erUSUL> !paste | rico
[14:47] <ubotu> rico: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[14:47] <tactikalnuke> lol
[14:47] <Lamego> rico, have you played with your sources.lst ? You don't have the correct repositories
[14:47]  * erUSUL where is FloodBot1 when you need it ;P
[14:47] <rico> ah k
[14:47] <rico> sorry
[14:47] <Lamego> !repos | rico
[14:47] <ubotu> rico: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[14:47] <alessio> cia
[14:49] <kveldulf> kinda silly question, how do i check the version of java sdk that a server has installed?
[14:49] <erUSUL> kveldulf: java -version ?
[14:49] <kveldulf> i can't remember the command, and cant think of the right words to find it with google
[14:49] <kveldulf> lol is that it...
[14:49] <ph8> Hey all; i'm looking at KVM - does it need a special kernel like other virtualisation methods?
[14:49] <IndyGunFreak> erUSUL: don't think that works for java.
[14:49] <Lamego> kveldulf, java -version ?
[14:49] <kveldulf> i was thinking of something like echo somethign
[14:50] <Lamego> IndyGunFreak, it does
[14:50] <IndyGunFreak> no, java -version should do it.
[14:50] <kveldulf> yup that's it
[14:50] <kveldulf> thanks
[14:50] <IndyGunFreak> Lamego: no, java -ver doesn't
[14:50] <kveldulf> i feel extra dumb now
[14:50] <Lamego> ah
[14:50] <erUSUL> IndyGunFreak: works here
[14:50] <IndyGunFreak> didn't for em
[14:50] <IndyGunFreak> *me
[14:50] <rico> it still wont install the packages, Ive edited the sources :(
[14:50] <Lamego> no one mentioned -ver
[14:50] <hawke_> Hi all ... can anyone explain why sound stops when I switch to a console VT, and how I can get that to stop?
[14:51] <IndyGunFreak> i get.. :unrecognized Option: -ver  Could not create the Java virtual machine
[14:51] <erUSUL> IndyGunFreak: java version "1.7.0" \ IcedTea Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0-b21) \ IcedTea 64-Bit Server VM (build 1.7.0-b21, mixed mode)
[14:51] <Lamego> IndyGunFreak, erUSUL suggested -version, not -ver
[14:51] <kveldulf> gah
[14:51] <IndyGunFreak> Lamego: oh i thought he said ver
[14:51] <kveldulf> i hate this server, they need a new admin guy
[14:51] <kveldulf> can't use java.util.Scanner
[14:51] <IndyGunFreak> my bad erUSUL i didn't see what you wrote properly
[14:51] <erUSUL> IndyGunFreak: ;)
[14:53] <rhineheart_m> where to read postfix errors and courier errors or logs?
[14:54] <sipior> rhineheart_m: /var/log/mail.log
[14:54] <kveldulf> damnit i could do this in 20 minutes if i had the altest version
[14:54] <sipior> rhineheart_m: also mail.err and mail.warn
[14:54] <tactikalnuke> rico: what do you get when you put this into the console:  <sudo aptitude search libartsc0 libaudio2 libmad0 libmpcdec3 libungif4g libxvmc1>
[14:54] <kveldulf> anywho, thanks guys
[14:54] <andresCanavesi>  /join #montevideolibre
[14:54] <teapot>  /server irc.blessed.net
[14:54] <rhineheart_m> sipior, but I cannot see there any error why it cannot accept mails..
[14:54] <rhineheart_m> where to look for it?
[14:55] <sipior> rhineheart_m: i would need a great deal more information before i could form a hypothesis.
[14:55] <erUSUL> andresCanavesi: no pongas espacio antes del / ;)
[14:55] <tactikalnuke> rico: msg me with the output
[14:55] <sipior> rhineheart_m: are you able to fetch mail from other places?
[14:56] <ulo> hi!  where does update manager get the info about what has changed in a package?
[14:56] <tactikalnuke> WHO was looking for the java sdk version?
[14:56] <Lamego> ulo, debian/changelog
[14:56] <praxitelis> whois
[14:56] <Lamego> which is contained on the package
[14:56] <Lamego> tactikalnuke, that question was answered
[14:56] <pajamian> ulo: from the repository.
[14:57] <rhineheart_m> sipior, other places
[14:57] <rhineheart_m> sipior, what do you mean?
[14:57] <ulo> Lamego: could you elaborate on that please?  how would I get it from CLI, for example?
[14:57] <tactikalnuke> IndyGunFreak: type javac --help
[14:57] <Lamego> pajamian, not really, it's grabbed from the package itself, not from the repository
[14:57] <pajamian> Lamego: ahh, right, I misunderstood the question
[14:57] <tactikalnuke> it should provide a list of packages that referance it and list the jsdk ver
[14:57] <sipior> rhineheart_m: well, you said you're having trouble fetching mail from yahoo, if i understood you correctly. do i understand you correctly?
[14:57] <IndyGunFreak> ok
[14:57] <rico> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62112/
[14:58] <tactikalnuke> Lamego: sorry...working with too many channels
[14:58] <rhineheart_m> sipior, yeah. that's correct
[14:58] <sipior> rhineheart_m: so, can you fetch email from any other sources? or do you just have the one account?
[14:59] <Lamego> ulo, first you need to exctract the debian control contents, .deb = ar (man ar)
[14:59] <Lamego> then you need to untar the debian/control
[14:59] <Old_Soldier> interesting problem: Can't empty user trash in nautilus because of permissions, yet the trash does not show in command line or root nautilus. Hardy bug perhaps?
[14:59] <Lamego> well, here some libraries which abstract all this
[14:59] <Pici> Old_Soldier: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[15:00] <tactikalnuke> how would I take <find ./ -iname '*nude*' -exec ln -s ./NSFW '{}' ';'> and combine it with the MV command to create symlinks in a differant folder based on multiple input from the find command???
[15:00] <rico> hmm, just got tonnes of updates, might fix it
[15:00] <hawke_> ...is it expected that sound stops when switching to vt1?
[15:00] <hawke_> where sound == music
[15:01] <ulo> Lamego: thank you, I'll do some digging around.  doesn't make much sense to me now, but there's only one way to learn
[15:01] <sipior> tactikalnuke: piping the find output to xargs should allow you to do what you want
[15:01] <tactikalnuke> thx
[15:01] <Lamego> ulo,CLI: ar t file.deb
[15:01] <Old_Soldier> well if there was anyone ever in ubuntu-1 :)
[15:01] <tactikalnuke> sipior: not familiar with xargs...but I'll research it
[15:01] <tactikalnuke> thx
[15:01] <ulo> I don't know where the debs are :)
[15:01] <ulo> I'll find it
[15:01] <ulo> it'll be fun
[15:01] <ulo> thanks for the pointers
[15:02] <sipior> tactikalnuke: it's a useful little utility; i think you'll find it well worth your time to master.
[15:02] <tactikalnuke> sipior: thx; any recommendations for sites with good info on it? (or just google)?
[15:02] <sipior> tactikalnuke: well, the man page is pretty good :-)
[15:02] <rico> tactikalnuke did u get the paste link?
[15:03] <ice_cream> lo; what's the command to see which version (fiesty, etc) i'm running?
[15:03] <ice_cream> and, also, have they yet figured out how to safely update the whole system w/o installing gnome*
[15:04] <ice_cream> or do i have to create a new kernel each time
[15:04] <soundray> ice_cream: for the version: lsb_release -a
[15:04] <erUSUL> !version
[15:04] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[15:04] <ice_cream> thx
[15:04] <CJS3141> Newbie question: why does the following command return "bash: block_dump: Permission denied":      sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/block_dump          [currently the file has a 0 in it]
[15:04] <ice_cream> i knew it was some cryptic command
[15:05] <soundray> ice_cream: your other two questions don't make sense
[15:05] <genii> CJS3141: echo 1 | sudo tee -a /proc/sys/vm/block_dump   instead
[15:05] <ice_cream> soundray, ok, well, in the past i was having difficulty upgrading my system without gnome
[15:05] <pajamian> CJS3141: because it runs "echo 1" as root but the redirect is done as the local user.
[15:06] <soundray> ice_cream: if you're using Ubuntu Desktop, you have to have ubuntu-desktop installed to upgrade safely, and that includes gnome
[15:06] <ice_cream> exactly
[15:06] <ice_cream> i dont
[15:06] <ice_cream> as it's very space-consuming
[15:06] <soundray> ice_cream: however, if you have Ubuntu Server, you can update just as safely
[15:06] <soundray> ice_cream: what do you have?
[15:06] <ice_cream> server
[15:06] <u007-1> hi, anyone know how to allow new processes to spawn almost equal priority compared to a heavy running existing process?
[15:06] <ice_cream> i just want to avoid downloading ubuntu-desktop
[15:06] <st1650> How do I upgrade a package from a .deb file download (in this case libc6)
[15:07] <Pici> st1650: You probably don't want to be upgrading libc6.
[15:07] <CJS3141> pajamian: OK I understand now.  genii:Thanks for the command, that makes sense, but isn't there an easier way of putting quotes around the whole thing or something so that sudo runs the redirect as root too?
[15:07] <soundray> st1650: that's a recipe for disaster
[15:07] <st1650> Pici: Yes ... I need to
[15:07] <u007-1> example: multiple running mysql client connection... and somehow, it took a lot of time to allow new mysql connection to be connected
[15:07] <st1650> Is there anyway I can upgrade it differently ?
[15:07] <st1650> without breaking my system?
[15:07] <jaffarkelshac> what email app can i use in ubuntu for hotmail yahoo. gmail
[15:07] <sheepz> thunderbird?
[15:07] <soundray> st1650: probably by upgrading to hardy. Wait until it's release, though
[15:08] <u007-1> jaffakelshac - evolution?
[15:08] <pajamian> CJS3141: you can do this instead: sudo su -c 'place command here'
[15:08] <u007-1> jaffarkelshac - use imap for gmail, if you know how to use it :)
[15:08] <ice_cream> soundray, what did you have in mind?
[15:08] <erUSUL> jaffarkelshac: for gmail you can use any mail client as it supports pop3 and imap ...
[15:08] <soundray> !upgrade | ice_cream
[15:08] <ubotu> ice_cream: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[15:09] <seamus_ie> hey all. I'm having a strange issue with df and available space on a partition.
[15:09] <jaffarkelshac> i really want something for hotmail to be honest
[15:09] <sipior> u007-1: that probably has little to do with process priority. tracing the client as it connects may point you in the right direction of the problem.
[15:09] <seamus_ie> df reports the partition as being 90G of which 85G is used but only 500M free. any ideas?
[15:09] <u007-1> sipior - what did you meant by tracing the client?
[15:10] <soundray> seamus_ie: it's because of reserved blocks. Have a look at 'man tune2fs'
[15:10] <sipior> u007-1: run strace and figure out what system calls are in progress when the delay occurs.
[15:10] <CJS3141> pajamian: That makes sense. Thanks for the tip! One other question though--if I say "sudo gedit block_dump" (I'm in its directory) why does the file show nothing in it in gedit, yet if I "more" it, it shows 0?
[15:11] <soundray> !gksu | CJS3141
[15:11] <sipior> u007-1: you might also look at a proper system instrumentation tool, like systemtap. unfortunately, systemtap isn't terribly good at the moment. still...
[15:11] <ubotu> CJS3141: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[15:11] <ice_cream> soundray, thanks again!
[15:11] <pajamian> CJS3141: I don't know for sure, but I would not recommend using gedit on /proc files.
[15:11]  * sipior pines for DTrace
[15:11] <ice_cream> it seems to be working fine with just that one update-manager-core tool =)
[15:12] <sheepz> pajamian: you still there?
[15:12] <CJS3141> pajamian: OK, so is ubotu's response correct? I would have to use gksu instead?
[15:12] <Frederick> folks how can I have java in a amd64 machine? thapackages seem broken
[15:12] <seamus_ie> soundray: thanks. makes sense in a way. is it safe to set the % of space used for reserved blocks on my home partition to 0?
[15:12] <u007-1> sipior - okay, i will try that :)
[15:12] <pajamian> CJS3141: in fact I wouldn't use any "text editor" on a /proc file, just use echo to write to it and cat to read it.
[15:13] <pajamian> sheepz: yep
[15:13] <u007-1> sipior -  or maybe its just mysql...
[15:13] <smack> hi for all!! somebody knows if I install in ubuntu  8.04 beta, when come out the release, is necesary to update or will be automaticly
[15:13] <sheepz> you got it working with opera?
[15:13] <soundray> seamus_ie: no, you want to keep some space reserved, although 5% is clearly too much on a 90GB partition
[15:13] <rico> Tactikalnuke: Do you mind if I PM u so we can talk about the Mplayer issue?
[15:13] <sipior> smack: should update automatically
[15:13] <seamus_ie> soundray: really, why so on my home part? / has it's own partition
[15:13] <smack> sipior.... many thanks!!!!!
[15:14] <ice_cream> woah, is this realistic? (fiesty->gutsy) 267M.
[15:14] <sriramoman> Frederick: get automatix
[15:15] <Frederick> ?
[15:15] <pajamian> sheepz: nope, but IndyGunFreak is using the beta version of opera (9.5) and I'm running the stable one (9.27).  I would recommend you try the beta version.
[15:15] <soundray> !automatix | Frederick, sriramoman
[15:15] <ubotu> Frederick, sriramoman: Automatix is no longer developed or supported by its creators and is not recommended, supported or needed by Ubuntu. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[15:15] <sriramoman> for java'
[15:15] <sriramoman> i got it today and it worked, fine
[15:15] <sriramoman> after all only one software
[15:16] <soundray> seamus_ie: I'm not sure what the risk is, but reserved blocks are clearly a safety measure, so I wouldn't do away with them completely
[15:16] <CJS3141> pajamian: OK, I agree better to do it at the command line. But just so I can understand better what's going on, how come even using "gksudo gedit block_dump" still doesn't show the contents in the file? It just comes up blank. (Thanks for your patience--I'm just trying to learn this stuff).
[15:16] <mattan> @soundray: Sry do you remember my problem (break up, no mount possibility)? Do you help me again?
[15:16] <Frederick> I built it once and worked now it is broken cause Ive updated the packageso I purged all the java packages andneed to build again
[15:16] <soundray> mattan: fainlty
[15:16] <Frederick> thou it doesnt works
[15:16] <soundray> *faintly
[15:16] <sheepz> pajamian:ah, i messed up, it was indy then
[15:17] <Radit> how do i install google earth on ubuntu?
[15:17] <sriramoman> Frederick: automatix is stable as of now
[15:17] <erUSUL> Radit: medibuntu has it
[15:17] <soundray> Radit: it's in the medibuntu repository
[15:17] <soundray> !medibuntu | Radit
[15:17] <ubotu> Radit: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[15:17] <erUSUL> !medibuntu | Radit
[15:17] <Frederick> sriramoman: soI just install it?
[15:17] <ubuntu> kewl it worked
[15:17] <pajamian> CJS3141: I don't know, I never tried to use gedit on a /proc file.  The nature of /proc files makes it so that it could be problematic.
[15:17] <sriramoman> yes
[15:17] <DJones> sriramoman, please don't recommend automatix, its not supported in this channel
[15:17] <LjL> !automatix | sriramoman, Frederick
[15:17] <ubotu> sriramoman, Frederick: Automatix is no longer developed or supported by its creators and is not recommended, supported or needed by Ubuntu. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[15:17] <mattan> You ask me for the mount output I put it on paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[15:17] <soundray> sriramoman: please don't recommend  automatix here
[15:17] <Frederick> it isnot in multiverse
[15:17] <Frederick> soundray: give me a light
[15:18] <soundray> Frederick: please do not install automatix
[15:18] <Hussni> olaaaa
[15:18] <soundray> !java | Frederick
[15:18] <ubotu> Frederick: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[15:18]  * erUSUL damm soundray allways at speed 340 m/s ;P
[15:18] <sriramoman> Frederick: come pvt chat
[15:18] <Hussni> Hello
[15:18] <ubuntu> ok
[15:18] <Radit> I already downloaded manually.. How do I install google earth?
[15:18] <LjL> Radit, please get the version from medibuntu instead.
[15:18] <AngryElf> so where do all the crazy gedit experts hang out?
[15:19] <Lamego> !es | Hussni
[15:19] <sipior> Frederick: not sure i follow you: the sun-java6 packages work fine for amd64. what exactly are you trying to compile?
[15:19] <ubotu> Hussni: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[15:19] <DJones> Frederick, Once you've installed automatix and used it, you'll normally have to do a full reinstall to correct the problems that automatix can cause
[15:19] <CJS3141> pagamian: I don't understand--you're maybe saying the proc file might not be a simple text file? I just don't understand why "more block_dump" would show something while using gedit to look at it wouldn't
[15:19] <soundray> Radit: get it through medibuntu. You'll cause unnecessary difficulties for yourself if you install it by hand
[15:19] <Hussni> hello lamego
[15:19] <pajamian> Radit: you will be better off with the medibuntu version because it will automatically keep it up to date, and it will automatically install all required dependancies, etc.
[15:19] <Hussni> man, d u know ubuntun right
[15:19] <Hussni> ???
[15:20] <Lamego> Hussni, just write your question, tks
[15:20] <yahuuu> hi again
[15:20] <soundray> CJS3141: /proc files aren't regular files, they are an interface to the kernel. Don't use gedit to access /proc entries.
[15:20] <Radit> 22mb's download matter's alot to me..  wil it really cause problems using the downloaded google earth version?
[15:20] <Hussni> i can't started my amsn
[15:20] <pajamian> CJS3141: what soundray said, hehehe
[15:21] <soundray> mattan: so what's the URL?
[15:21] <rico> i had issues with automatix
[15:21] <yahuuu> i want to install ubuntu 7.10 on my 2nd HDD, i have 2 HDD in my pc, 1 for windows and other i want to install ubuntu, when i restart the pc and click on the install button, my screen turns black and display this message by ubuntu " (initramfs) type help for more commands
[15:21] <Hussni> i can't to do my contact list
[15:21] <LjL> Radit, you can't cleanly uninstall it, for starters...
[15:22] <PookAir> How do I install a diffrent language other than english on ubuntu?  Thanks
[15:22] <mattan> @soundray: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62114/
[15:22] <noob-africa> hi everyone
[15:22] <maek> PookAir, it will give you localization settings when you install
[15:22] <soundray> PookAir: System-Administration-Language Support
[15:22] <Lamego> PookAir, System -> Admin -> Lang support
[15:22] <Hairufr> Hey all, what's the chan for the beta release?
[15:22] <maek> hi noob-africa
[15:22] <CJS3141> soundray: OK! :-) Actually, maybe I figured out my problem-- if I do a "file block_dump" it claims the file is empty, so why does "more block_dump
[15:22] <Radit> ... How do i medibuntu?
[15:22] <LjL> Hairufr: #ubuntu+1
[15:23] <LjL> Radit, you follow the instructions from the bot
[15:23] <noob-africa> maek: r u familiar with avant?
[15:23] <CJS3141> soundray: .... return 0? (sorry hit return too soon)
[15:23] <Frederick> folks anyone heremanaged to make ava work in ubuntu on amd64?
[15:23] <Hairufr> cheers LjL  - and how are you ? Been a while
[15:23] <Radit> LjL, what bot?
[15:23] <LjL> i'm ok, thanks
[15:23] <LjL> !medibuntu | Radit
[15:23] <ubotu> Radit: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[15:23] <LjL> this bot
[15:23] <noob-africa> anyone know their way around in avant?
[15:23] <pajamian> CJS3141: because it's not a real file, so any request to the file statistics shows an empty file.
[15:23] <Radit> ohh.. I'll check it out.. thanks LjL and guys..
[15:24] <PookAir> soundray, thanks alot
[15:24] <Frederick> so I need help, ive managed once to make java work through compilling all packages now it is failing
[15:24] <maek> I don't use an OSX style dock ... its plain ol gnome-panel for me
[15:24] <rico> hmm, Automatix will install now, must have been fixed with update lol
[15:24] <soundray> mattan: you were saying that no hda or sda partitions were mounted, but the first line says clearly that your root filesystem is on /dev/hda1
[15:24] <LjL> Radit: you may want to follow the "installing individual packages" paragraph, although that won't automatically update google earth to new versions. if you, instead, enable the new repositories, other packages may get updated from medibuntu too
[15:24] <CJS3141> pajamian: OK, so when I looking around in different directories, how do I know whether a file is a real file or not, or some special system file?
[15:24] <noob-africa> !avant
[15:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avant - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:24] <sipior> Frederick: why not simply install sun-java6-jdk?
[15:24] <Frederick> sipior: does not work
[15:25] <Frederick> in am64
[15:25] <sipior> Frederick: can you be more specific?
[15:25] <genii> !hfs | CJS3141
[15:25] <ubotu> CJS3141: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[15:25] <yahuuu> i want to install ubuntu 7.10 on my 2nd HDD, i have 2 HDD in my pc, 1 for windows and other i want to install ubuntu, when i restart the pc and click on the install button, my screen turns black and display this message by ubuntu " (initramfs) type help for more commands
[15:25] <genii> CJS3141: Forget the bot link, I'll find you one that explains the file structure
[15:25] <Templer> hi there -  has anyone here tried the new ubuntu "hardy"?
[15:25] <pajamian> CJS3141: anything under /proc is a special system file.  Also anything under /dev.  There are also other file types that don't correspond to regular files, such as sockets, symbolic links, and pipes.
[15:25] <mattan> @soundraysry thats right but not any /media/ ( hda 3 or 4)
[15:25] <Lamego> !hardy | Templer
[15:25] <ubotu> Templer: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[15:26] <Radit> LjL, thx alot.. but can you explain what this command does: "sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/gutsy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list"
[15:26] <soundray> genii: the Wikipedia article is good
[15:26] <Templer> the beta version?
[15:26] <genii> CJS3141: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html
[15:26] <soundray> mattan: so what happens when you enter 'sudo mount /dev/hda3 /mnt' ?
[15:26] <Lamego> Templer, ask on #ubuntu+1, for hardy
[15:26] <Templer> cheers
[15:27] <pajamian> Radit: that command installs the medibuntu repository.
[15:27] <genii> soundray: I think my prob was the typo of !hfs and not !fhs   ;)
[15:27] <soundray> genii: ah, I hadn't spotted that
[15:27] <Troofy> how open large compressed file? i made a backup by g4l ghost 4 linux. it uses partimage. i think it was bzip2 2.4gb. Ark gives error while opening those files. any ways to copy a file from the archive?
[15:27] <rico> so how whats planned for HH?
[15:27] <CJS3141> pajamian: Thanks! genii: Thanks much for the link--I'll go read up before I ask any more questions. :-D
[15:28] <LjL> Radit, it downloads the information that describes how the Medibuntu repository is accessed, and puts them into the file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list, which APT will access
[15:28] <skillz> hi, i am trying to come up with some statistics from when i collect data using the "ping" command, is there a script that i could use, that would discard all information given in the ouput but leaving the RTT value, and then working out the MEDIAN value of those times? as currently ping only shows, min/max/avg/ and Mean deviation as the output
[15:28] <soundray> rico: read the topic in #ubuntu+1
[15:28] <Lamego> Troofy, partimage produces a largefile, I am not sure you can mount (I guess you wan that, to acces to the backed up files)
[15:28] <Frederick> new problem arises when I evoke netbeans Cannot find java. Please use the --jdkhome switch.
[15:29] <mattan> @soundray: It says: mount: /media/hda4 is not a block device
[15:29] <sriramoman> is there any ftp site where i can find all the official ubuntu packages?i am not meaning apt-mirror
[15:29] <Lamego> sriramoman, packages.ubuntu.com
[15:29] <soundray> mattan: you didn't enter  the command that I suggested
[15:29] <Radit> LjL & Panjamian, thanks alot :-D
[15:29] <hischild> sriramoman: enter the link from sources.list in your browser and look around
[15:29] <Troofy> Lamego i already have acces to file. its in a a folder i have but icant open it.
[15:29] <pajamian> skillz: pick the programming language of your choice to write one.  I would probably hack something together in perl in 15 minutes.
[15:29] <soundray> mattan: what happens when you enter 'sudo mount /dev/hda3 /mnt' ?
[15:30] <Lamego> Troofy, I am not sure about the partimages file format, but probably you will need to restore them into a real partiion or file, to access it's files
[15:30] <Lamego> man partimage
[15:30] <sipior> Frederick: you may simply have to tell the system to use the sun jdk. try "update-alternatives --list java" and see what's there
[15:30] <Troofy> Lamego its bzip2
[15:30] <skillz> pajamian: is there not somethign easier to write it in awk or something like that? i have collected all the data and saved them to files, now i just want to do something quick
[15:30] <mattan> @soundray: I tipped in"sudo mount /media/hda4 /mnt"
[15:30] <Frederick> sipior: already done
[15:30] <hischild> skillz: perhaps use cut? and then grep?
[15:31] <amenado> Frederick-> does netbeans depends on a $JAVA_HOME env var?
[15:31] <soundray> mattan: why did you type that, and not what I asked you to type?
[15:31] <skillz> hischild: what does grep do?
[15:31] <Frederick> amenado: maybe wgere should I place it?
[15:31] <hischild> skillz: man grep
[15:31] <pajamian> skillz: depends on what language you know.  Like I said, I would do it in perl because (1) that's what I know, and (2) I could probably hack together a single command line that would parse and read the listed files and dump the output.
[15:31] <Frederick> http://rafb.net/p/ktkaZF71.html
[15:31] <Blinny> What is a good wireless PCMCIA card that 'just works' without using ndiswrapper?
[15:31] <sipior> Frederick: and if you use the --jdkhome switch?
[15:31] <Lamego> Troofy, it doesn't matter if it's compressed or not, if you uncompress it, it still uses the partimage format
[15:32] <amenado> Frederick-> its an environment variable, you export it to your shell
[15:32] <hischild> skillz: has the ability to use expressions to cut the output in smaller pieces so you're just left with the numbers.
[15:32] <Troofy> Lamego hm
[15:32] <skillz> pajamian: i would be very greatfull if you could help me with this line of perl :)
[15:32] <Troofy> Lamego so what should i do
[15:32] <genii> Blinny: My D-Link dwl-g630 works great, Atheros chipset
[15:32] <pajamian> skillz: pm me, then.
[15:33] <Brun> hi people..
[15:33] <Lamego> Troofy, you restore it, using partimage
[15:33] <Frederick> export $JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java failed
[15:33] <Brun> who use DTC ?
[15:33] <rico> btw, when do they plan to put the trash on the desktop so u can delete the files in the trash easily? I heard that u have to use terminal to empty it, or has this been fixed?
[15:33] <skillz> pajmain: done :)
[15:33] <igormorgado> i have notice that mouse acceleration control has problems, when I try to tune it, it drops to left and my mouse stay too slow. No matter how I try to move the slide bar to right it come back to left. I have to xset m 2 to make my pointer usable. Any ideas?
[15:33] <Blinny> genii: Does that need madwifii anything special? Or can I just use the networkmanager in Gutsy?
[15:33] <frostburn> What's a good text editor to use?  I've been using jedit for years, but thought there might be something else that I've not tried before.
[15:33] <hischild> Blinny: you can just use the network manager in gutsy.
[15:33] <sipior> Frederick: leave out the "$"
[15:33] <pajamian> skillz: you need to register with nickserv in order to pm, sorry.
[15:34] <amenado> Frederick-> remove the $ if on the left hand side of  =
[15:34] <Lamego> frostburn, gedit
[15:34] <Blinny> hischild/genii: Yous is the rockstars. Cheers.
[15:34] <pajamian> skillz: join #pajamian_skillz
[15:34] <genii> Blinny: No madwifi or anything. Works out of the box with default network manager
[15:34] <soundray> rico: the trash is in the bottom panel on the right. You can empty it easily with a right click and choosing the Empty... option
[15:34] <Blinny> Grassy ass.
[15:34] <skillz> join #pajamian_skillz
[15:34] <mattan> @soundray I have read itwrong but this device does not exist or is busy(sudo mount/dev/hda4 /mnt)
[15:34] <Troofy> Lamego no other way?
[15:34] <Lamego> Troofy, no
[15:34] <Pici> Blinny: excuse me?
[15:34] <Pici> !language | Blinny
[15:34] <ubotu> Blinny: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[15:35] <frostburn> Lamego, i to do a visual diff between two docs, unfortunately, gedit doesn't do that very well.
[15:35] <Blinny> pici: Apologies. Gracias.
[15:35] <Frederick>  export JAVA_HOME="/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java"
[15:35] <Frederick> imanewbie@isengard:~$ netbeans
[15:35] <Frederick> Cannot find java. Please use the --jdkhome switch.
[15:35] <Frederick> sorry for flooding
[15:35] <FloodBot1> Frederick: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:35] <pajamian> skillz: you left out the /
[15:35] <amenado> mattan space needed between mount and /dev/hda4
[15:35] <sipior> Frederick: and if you supply the --jdkhome switch?
[15:35] <soundray> mattan: I am not prepared to help you unless you do exactly what I ask of you. The way it's currently going, you are wasting both our time.
[15:35] <erUSUL> Frederick:  export JAVA_HOME="/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/  ???
[15:35] <erUSUL> Frederick:  export JAVA_HOME="/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/"  ???
[15:36] <Frederick> erUSUL: what is werong?
[15:36] <Lamego> frostburn, why not ? you just need to open 2 windows
[15:36] <tafs> Hi, I`m having a problem with my wireless - it does not work on boot, but it works after "ifdown wlan0; ifup wlan0". Any ideas about how I can make it successfully connect the first time?
[15:36] <amenado> Frederick-> its the bin directory for JAVA_HOME not the executable java itself
[15:36] <erUSUL> Frederick: i think that java home is the top level directory of java install not the full path to the java binary
[15:37] <frostburn> Lamego, it doesn't compare every line at the same time, it's easy to miss something
[15:37] <Troofy> Lamego ok
[15:37] <erUSUL> Frederick: oh well what amenado says ;)
[15:37] <Troofy> Lamego thx
[15:37] <mattan> Sry There was one in my terminal
[15:37] <Webu_> !java
[15:37] <ubotu> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[15:39] <soundray> mattan: run 'sudo fdisk -l' and put the output on the pastebin please
[15:39]  * FooTaGe ( NoNameScript 4.2 :: by greeny & mute :: www.nnscript.com :: www.regroup-esports.com )
[15:40] <Frederick> seems to be okay now
[15:40] <Frederick> howdo I set this ariable globaly?
[15:40] <Lamego> Frederick, set it on your $HOME/.bashrc
[15:41] <Frederick> I mean export JAVA_HOME="/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/" is it oki?
[15:41] <soundray> Frederick: or put it in /etc/environment (for all users and environments)
[15:41] <mattan> sry there is no output
[15:42] <Frederick> soundray: in the envioment I put the variable not theexport command right?
[15:42] <soundray> mattan: there will be if you do it correctly
[15:42] <Andycasss> how to search for a file in terminal
[15:42] <soundray> Frederick: yes
[15:42] <soundray> Andycasss: locate file
[15:42] <Frederick> thanks brothers thanks a lot
[15:42] <rhineheart_m> what is wrong if I cannot accept mails from yahoo.com? I am using courier imap to fetch mail
[15:42] <mattan> with out sudo
[15:42] <Frederick> rhineheart_m: openrelay?
[15:43] <Andycasss> soundray: how to make it search in whole filesys?
[15:43] <soundray> Andycasss: it does
[15:43] <rhineheart_m> Frederick, openrelay? what do you mean with that? actually I am trying to remember what ports I used in setting up pop3 and imap.. can anybody help me how to do it?
[15:43] <Andycasss> soundray: well, how to update it then? Because it cant see that dir i have it in
[15:44] <LjL> !away > FooTaGe^Away    (FooTaGe^Away, see the private message from Ubotu)
[15:44] <Frederick> rhineheart_m: never mind aboutwhat ive said
[15:44] <Frederick> sorry
[15:44] <soundray> Andycasss: it searches all filesystems that were mounted the last time 'updatedb' was run
[15:44] <mattan> there is only my memory stick
[15:44] <soundray> Andycasss: so 'sudo updatedb'
[15:44] <_julian__> hi all
[15:45] <soundray> Andycasss: you can use 'find' if you need a tool that searches directly (rather than relying on an index)
[15:45] <maimster> Hi everyone.
[15:45] <_julian__> I create a udev rule (/etc/udev/rules.d/10-persistent-touch.rules) which looks like this:
[15:45] <_julian__> BUS=="USB", KERNEL=="event[0-9]*", SYSFS{idVendor}=="0eef", SYSFS{idProduct}=="0001", SYMLINK="input/touchpanel"
[15:45] <soundray> Andycasss: 'find /directory -name filename.txt'
[15:45] <_julian__> lsusb lists:
[15:45] <_julian__> Bus 004 Device 004: ID 0eef:0001 D-WAV Scientific Co., Ltd eGalax TouchScreen
[15:45] <_julian__> but no input/touchpanel is created
[15:45] <_julian__> a input/event* device for it exists...
[15:45] <_julian__> any ideas, what is wrong with my rule?
[15:46] <Andycasss> soundray: thanks, ill use find
[15:46] <mattan> now I not allowed to put anything on paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[15:46] <erUSUL> _julian__: maybe you can use udevmonitor to find out the problem
[15:47] <_julian__> erUSUL: I can't plug/unplug the touchscreen as it is wired internally
[15:48] <mattan> I made it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62118/
[15:48] <suxxor> i`ve installed vmware but it ask me serial key to start the virtual machine
[15:48] <suxxor> somebody to help me?
[15:49] <erUSUL> _julian__: :|
[15:49] <sipior> suxxor: contact vmware to get a key?
[15:49] <nonix4> Hmm, kvm bug: issuing shutdown results in exception 13, killing (usb) mouse until you replug it
[15:49] <suxxor> no
[15:49] <Pici> suxxor: no?
[15:49] <suxxor> yes
[15:49] <tayloreffect> yes?
[15:49] <suxxor> how to contact to get key
[15:50] <Pici> suxxor: I'd start at http://www.vmware.com
[15:51] <Lamego> suxxor, you can get a key from the vmware site
[15:51] <hischild> pici may i ask you in a pm what your relation to Ubuntu is?
[15:51] <Pici> hischild: sure
[15:51] <soundray> mattan: do you have more than one harddisk?
[15:51] <ice_cream> ah, finally upgraded =P
[15:51] <ice_cream> there was some sort of bug when i tried to upgrade while in X
[15:51] <suxxor> fuck aye i`ll probably get it ^^
[15:52] <Pici> !language | suxxor
[15:52] <ubotu> suxxor: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[15:52] <baua> is there a way to use autologin and keyring-auto-unlocking together?
[15:52] <mattan> no I have 1 Hardisk but sda is my memorystick (so my hdd cannot be dead)
[15:52] <suxxor> 10x
[15:53] <sipior> baua: possibly, but the consequences could be pretty awful
[15:54] <baua> sipior: which one?
[15:54] <soundray> mattan: any output from 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda'
[15:54] <soundray> ?
[15:54] <artworx> i'm having trouble with the nvidia driver, modprobe gives me FATAL: Error running install command for nvidia
[15:54] <pirate_Hunter> hi whats the command to check usb stick?
[15:54] <_julian__> erUSUL: it just came to my mind that reloading the module would have the same effect as replugging. here is the udevmonitor output:http://paste.biz/paste-3058.html
[15:54] <rico> is there a way i can change the login menue to look cooler? (I know how to choose another login menue, but would like something different)
[15:54] <bofphile> Hi guys, I have a little problem regarding my external soundcard
[15:55] <sirblue> oi, can't print several pages onto 1 sheet, printer ist brother hl 16xx, any ideas?
[15:55] <Jessica> how do i change grub boot menu i want to do it through the GUI
[15:55] <Lamego> Jessica, installl startupmanager
[15:55] <sipior> baua: well, if i understand you correctly, what you want to do is allow anyone who can get a hold of your machine for a few minutes to log onto each and every computer you have configured for RSA authentication.
[15:56] <mattan> @soundray:  with sudo no, but without sudo "Cannot open /dev/hda"
[15:56] <sipior> baua: along with any other passwords you may keep in the ring...
[15:56] <Jessica> ok thanks
[15:56] <pirate_Hunter> Lamego: do you know the command to check usb stick, I wnat to know if it is sda1 etc?
[15:56] <hischild> pirate_Hunter: if you've plugged it in, type dmesg. On the bottom it'll show what it is.
[15:56] <Lamego> pirate_Hunter, dmesg, when you plug the device, it reports the connected device name
[15:57] <pirate_Hunter> Lamego, hischild: thanx
[15:57] <baua> sipior: exactly, but thats fine ... its just a kind of a kiosk mode laptop without sensible data in a privat network
[15:57] <bofphile> I have an E-MU 0202 USB soundcard and I need to apply a patch to alsa-driver to make it work. The problem is I don't know how to apply a patch
[15:57] <sipior> sirblue: using enscript or psnup?
[15:57] <baua> sipior: so what is the solution?
[15:57] <sipior> baua: don't know, never tried it.
[15:57] <sirblue> sipior: how do i tell?
[15:58] <mattan> @soundray what are the rigts (adduser for using my hda)
[15:58] <rwycuff> johannix:any more luck with sound card
[15:58] <sipior> sirblue: well, how were you sending the data to the printer?
[15:58] <AVFC1> Anyone able to help me with disc partitioning? I tried to do it as described in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBfl3oViny8 (about 1 minute into vid) but it wont let me change the size of the windows partition.
[15:58] <AVFC1> http://xs126.xs.to/xs126/08145/partitioning943.png thats what I see
[15:58] <mattan> I think that have it to be because I get them as root
[15:58] <soundray> mattan: it's not a privilege issue
[15:58] <sirblue> sipior: press print in openoffice for example... sry dude
[15:59] <erUSUL> _julian__: see "less /etc/udev/rules.d/README" your rule should be 60-whatever not 10-whatever can this be the problem ??
[15:59] <erUSUL> _julian__: i do not see anything on the udevmonitor output...
[15:59] <pirate_Hunter> hischild, Lamego: that gave me a lot of info but i still dont know where my usb is plugged in, could you suggest something... what am I suposed to look for?
[15:59] <soundray> mattan: if fdisk -l doesn't output your partition table, then probably there isn't one. Is this a Mac?
[15:59] <sipior> sirblue: and it prints single pages fine? 2-up and the like don't print at all?
[15:59] <_julian__> erUSUL: just read that too, changed it, let's see....
[16:00] <hischild> pirate_Hunter: unplug, count to 5, plug back in, type dmesg. It'll show something with sda, sdb, or something along those lines.
[16:00] <sirblue> sipior: yeah, whats 2-up by the way?
[16:00] <mattan> @soundray:no not a mac, but hda is there under root
[16:00] <sipior> sirblue: 2 pages per physical page
[16:01] <sirblue> sipior: yeah, what did i say? just want to save paper...
[16:01] <soundray> mattan: do a 'sudo fdisk /dev/hda' and enter 'p'
[16:01] <xukun> I have an external usb disk mounted on /dev/sdb1 on /media/Lacie but when I do cd ls it No such file or directory. I have no clue why this is happening now
[16:01] <CVD-PR> Any know when the RC ubuntu 8 gonna came out?
[16:01] <xukun> cd or ls
[16:02] <rwycuff> xukun: what format is this drive in
[16:02] <hischild> CVD-PR: it's been told before. The days are counted on the main Ubuntu website.
[16:02] <incorrect> i have a bash script on a remote server, can i do something like curl ftp://script.sh | bash ?
[16:02] <soundray> mattan: any error messages?
[16:02] <xukun> rwycuff, it is ntfs. It always worked before
[16:02] <sirblue> sipior: thx so far, dentist calls, gotta go!
[16:02] <sipior> sirblue: hmm...not sure how openoffice goes about printing. it's possible that it simply isn't supported with your printer driver. you might try getting openoffice to output postscript files, which you could then format and print with psnup
[16:03] <sipior> well, now we'll know whether setting up printing in ubuntu is easier than pulling teeth
[16:04] <mattan> @soundray xxxxxxx is not a sudoers file...
[16:04] <Radit> how do i see a running process in ubuntu & terminate it?
[16:04] <c0ldfusion> Radit, man ps and kill
[16:04] <Lamego> Radit, ps and kill
[16:04] <xukun> rwycuff, any idea?
[16:05] <soundray> mattan: so the issue is that you can't use sudo?
[16:05] <rwycuff> did you mount it via the command line or is it super mounting
[16:05] <rwycuff> xukun:
[16:05] <Scunizi> how do I run a perl script that's named  <prog_name.pl>
[16:05] <Lamego> sculework, perl -e file.pl
[16:05] <xukun> rwycuff, it mount automatic when I plug in
[16:05] <Scunizi> thanks
[16:05] <rwycuff> scunizi : perl -e *.pl
[16:05] <_julian__> erUSUL: did not help,...
[16:05] <shArk> hi
[16:06] <Scunizi> rwycuff, thanks.. got Lamego with the wrong nick..
[16:06] <mattan> may be
[16:06] <ryrules1> how do i make a join a diffrent irc sever
[16:06] <Radit> i used ps command, but could'nt find a program name eg. gimp..
[16:06] <rico> got Automatix helps so much
[16:06] <rico> god*
[16:06] <mattan> but my user is in sudo
[16:06] <shArk> how do i change the dynamically set title pls ?
[16:06] <hischild> !automatix | rico
[16:06] <ubotu> rico: Automatix is no longer developed or supported by its creators and is not recommended, supported or needed by Ubuntu. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[16:06] <soundray> mattan: does 'sudo ls' give you the same error?
[16:06] <ryrules1> how do i make a join a diffrent irc sever
[16:06] <rwycuff> xukun: try unmounting it from the commant line and then do mount -t ntfs on it and see if that fixes it
[16:06] <ryrules1> how do join a diffrent irc sever
[16:06] <amenado> Radit-> ps aux | grep gimp
[16:06] <AVFC1> try /s irc.servername.com/net and /attach
[16:06] <Lamego> ryrules1, /server server_name
[16:07] <AVFC1> Anyone able to help me with disc partitioning? I tried to do it as described in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBfl3oViny8 (about 1 minute into vid) but it wont let me change the size of the windows partition.
[16:07] <ryrules1> kk thanks you
[16:07] <rwycuff> amenado : /join then irc channel
[16:07] <c0ldfusion> AVFC1, what partition editor are you using
[16:07] <Radit> amenado, what do i do next?
[16:07] <AVFC1> the one on the system>administration
[16:08] <AVFC1> GParted
[16:08] <shArk> any1 ? pls .. how do i change the dynamically set title in gnome-terminal ?
[16:08] <Lamego> AVFC1, are you using the live cd ?
[16:08] <amenado> Radit was the pid of gimp found? what do you want to do?
[16:08] <erUSUL> _julian__: :(
[16:08] <AVFC1> Lamego: yes http://xs126.xs.to/xs126/08145/partitioning943.png thats what i see btw.
[16:08] <mattan> no now error but no output either
[16:08] <_julian__> erUSUL: ah got it - removing BUS=="USB" did the trick
[16:09] <Radit> amenado is it the 4 digit number?
[16:09] <xukun> rwycuff, then it works just file
[16:09] <Lamego> do you get any error when you try to resize ?
[16:09] <soundray> mattan: what have you done that could have wrecked sudo?
[16:09] <Radit> I want to close it
[16:09] <amenado> shArk-> man gnome-terminal and look at the -title option
[16:10] <rwycuff> xukun:so is it working after that ??
[16:10] <xukun> rwycuff, yes
[16:10] <amenado> Radit  ps aux| head and you should see the headings
[16:10] <mattan> @soundray I do not now
[16:10] <pajamian> AVFC1: find the open nautilus window on your desktop with the partition open in it and close it and unmount the partition.
[16:10] <rwycuff> xukun:awsome
[16:10] <xukun> rwycuff, very strange
[16:10] <Melch> anyone know good note taking programs?
[16:10] <ice_cream> oo someone wrecked sudo?
[16:10] <shArk> amenado: --title=TITLE.. i know.. but when i put PS1= there it doesn't work
[16:10]  * ice_cream tunes in
[16:10] <goodhabit> Hello. Advice me please software for dvd video creation from avi, mpg and other media files. i have tryed devede, but it is ignoring media size options. Also if somebody knows tell me please how to make widescreen bootsplash, cuz it looks stretched. Thanks you.
[16:10] <sipior> Melch: tomboy is pretty cool
[16:10] <xukun> rwycuff, so there is something wrong with the auto mount
[16:10] <Lamego> Melch, try tomboy, add/remove programs
[16:11] <amenado> shArk-> what is PS1 ?  is it defined?
[16:11] <mconrado> ola
[16:11] <c0ldfusion> AVFC1, or you can use gparted livecd; take your pick.
[16:11] <Melch> all that is post its
[16:11] <rwycuff> xukun: it might be that supermount or what ever app is doing it in linux any more isnt running on the proper lvl
[16:11] <Melch> i'm looking for something like endnote
[16:11] <sipior> Melch: *slightly* more than that
[16:11] <noob-africa> goodhabit: have u tried LiVES (Linux Video Editing Software)... google LiVES
[16:11] <Melch> i use basket
[16:11] <xukun> rwycuff, thanks a lot for your help m8
[16:12] <mattan> @soundray: under root sudo is working
[16:12] <Melch> but i was wondering if there is anything more
[16:12] <pajamian> melanarchy: have you tried Tomboy Notes?
[16:12] <AVFC1> thanks c0ldfusion
[16:12] <pajamian> errr Melch
[16:12] <lorenz> hi guys, I was wondering what codecs I need for proper divx playback? the ones I got now show a grainy pic in fullscreen
[16:12] <mypapipu> hi all
[16:12] <stig__> hi ...
[16:12] <Melch> lorenz are u sure it's not the quality of the video?
[16:12] <sipior> lorenz: sure it's not the source material?
[16:13] <lorenz> I'm sure it's not the source material, yes
[16:13] <mypapipu> anyone ever install kannel in ubuntu GG ?
[16:13] <Melch> what is your full screen rez
[16:13] <stig__> I have a serious problem with my linux box.
[16:13] <ice_cream> mattan, in sudoers, do you have the Defaults line, then the root line, then the user line?
[16:13] <tactikalnuke> sipior: are you familiar with xargs yourself?
[16:13] <lorenz> 1024*768
[16:14] <sipior> tactikalnuke: depends on the day
[16:14] <stig__> Short version is, that cp a b gives different md5sums - a is an iso file ...
[16:14] <tactikalnuke> sipior: i try using simple <find . -iname '*nude*' | xargs ln -s --target-directory=./NSFW>
[16:14] <rwycuff> xukun:no problem linux community suppose to be about help
[16:14] <lorenz> I had proper playback with feisty, installed an awful lot and it worked fined. now I am on hardy, and it's grainy
[16:14] <stig__> Can anyone help me diagnose the problem
[16:14] <suxxor> i`ve find serial number for vmware but i don`t know how to enter it when click in program "Enter serial number ... " it shows me "You do not have permission to enter a serial number. Please try again using the system administrator account."
[16:14] <tactikalnuke> sipior: but end up getting "ln: creating symbolic link `./NSFW/NudeOne1600x1200.jpg': Operation not permitted"
[16:14] <Radit> amenado, i can't see gimp when i run "ps aux | head" but i'ts running
[16:15] <shArk> amenado: PS1 is the line from .bashrc (i dont know how to tell :p)
[16:15] <sipior> tactikalnuke: do you have permission to write in that directory?
[16:15] <tactikalnuke> suxxor: from terminal type <gksudo PROGRAM-NAME>
[16:15] <lorenz> is there a codec pack up somewhere that I could try?
[16:15] <yahuuu> hello there
[16:15] <tactikalnuke> suxxor: that will run it in su mode
[16:15] <soundray> mattan: sorry, I have to log off. Will be around later
[16:15] <tactikalnuke> sipior: yes
[16:15] <AVFC1> I unmounted the windows partition, but it barely lets me re size it (there's 30Gb+ of free space on it :S) http://xs226.xs.to/xs226/08145/wtf918.png
[16:15] <tactikalnuke> sipior: its a directory i've created and files I've put into the other folders
[16:15] <amenado> Radit-> i only gave you   "ps aux | head " for you to see which column is the pid,  the previous ps aux | grep gimp should have identified it
[16:15] <pajamian> lorenz: there is w32codecs in the medibuntu repository.
[16:16] <amenado> shArk-> you meant the user prompt?  its $PS1  not PS1
[16:16] <mattan> @icecream : I do not get it
[16:16] <yahuuu> i want to install ubuntu 7.10 on my machine but after click the first option (install ubuntu) my computer screen turned black and nothing happen after that.... any suggestion? can i copy the whole CD and install it from DOS prompt?
[16:16] <sipior> tactikalnuke: try echoing a filename to the xargs command (leaving out find for the nonce)
[16:16] <mattan> @soundray hope to see you again
[16:17] <pajamian> yahuuu: try the alternate install CD
[16:18] <yahuuu> pajamian: can u guide me abt this? ia m newbi
[16:18] <pajamian> !alternate | yahuuu
[16:18] <ubotu> yahuuu: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[16:19] <shArk> amenado: $ gnome-terminal --title=$PS1='\u@\h\: \w' results in Invalid argument: "\w]$"
[16:19] <yahuuu> ok
[16:19] <ph8> If i make a change to sysctl.conf (and sysctl -w my.directive=2) - does it apply straight away? or do i have to reboot?
[16:19] <Radit> amenado, i can't kill it, is there a force option?
[16:19] <sipior> ph8: should take effect when you run sysctl
[16:19] <ph8> cool ta
[16:19] <ccooke> ph8: sysctl.conf is loaded at boot time, but the sysctl command makes changes to the running kernel
[16:20] <mattan> @ice_cream I have not get it where it should be
[16:20] <pajamian> ok, I'm heading off.  Goddnight everyone
[16:22] <William__> hello
[16:23] <tactikalnuke> sipior: figured it out...for some reason, everything on drive defaults to owner of  username:root
[16:23] <William__> who got problem when upgrade kernel 2.6.24-14 ?
[16:23] <tactikalnuke> sipior: but only on external USB device....???
[16:23] <sipior> tactikalnuke: huh. yeah, that'll do it :)
[16:23] <genii> William__: #ubuntu
[16:23] <Frogzoo> tactikalnuke: sounds like a fat filesystem??
[16:23] <genii> William__: #ubuntu+1    rather
[16:23] <erUSUL> !hardy | William__
[16:23] <ubotu> William__: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[16:23] <tactikalnuke> sipior: it's fat32
[16:23] <tactikalnuke> Frogzoo: yeah...you got it
[16:24] <Frogzoo> tactikalnuke: that's how it works, fat doesn't understand users
[16:24] <simplexio> William__: isnt latest  2.6.24.4
[16:24]  * tactikalnuke slaps tactikalnuke
[16:24]  * sipior does not condone self-abuse
[16:24] <tactikalnuke> sipior: it's ok...it was with a trout
[16:25] <tactikalnuke> LOL
[16:25] <sarcher> C`/j #ubuntu+1
[16:25] <MrObvious> Is Hardy out considering it's April?
[16:25] <tactikalnuke> MrObvious: Soon... :)
[16:25] <Lamego> MrObvious, ask on #ubuntu+1
[16:25] <redman> hi!
[16:25] <MrObvious> Gaa I don't wanna join another channel. lol
[16:26] <tactikalnuke> MrObvious: 20 days
[16:26] <redman> Are you all people from the states
[16:26] <amenado> shArk-> you are trying to set an environment variable with single quotes? maybe you try to use double quotes ?
[16:26] <toomppa> im not :P
[16:26] <tactikalnuke> redman: yes...Rochester, NY
[16:26] <erUSUL> redman: no try #ubuntu-us
[16:26] <rico> I'm from Australia
[16:26] <MrObvious> I think I am ready to go back to Ubuntu after trying Vista. I had to work with it for a bit because I needed to know how to support it so I can better help people.
[16:26] <sipior> redman: the United States of Mexico?
[16:26] <amenado> Radit try  killall gimp
[16:26] <MrObvious> <-Kansas
[16:26] <rwycuff> MrObvious: Vista has that effect
[16:26] <toomppa> <- finland :p
[16:26] <rico> lol, im the only aussie here by the looks of it lol
[16:26] <frostburn> 24th
[16:27] <frostburn> tactikalnuke, from there too
[16:27] <ice_cream> mattan, ?  i just thought you had  problem with your sudoers file and unable to use sudo, no?
[16:27] <MrObvious> Maybe with SP2 Vista will be better. I don't know
[16:27] <MrObvious> .
[16:27] <redman> i'm in Germany but I'm not german
[16:27] <snailstorm> Hello, i have a small question: Im tryingto use the Emerald Theme Manager with Compiz fusion, but somehow it doesnt change "windows decorations" to emerald, still stuck with the old theme, how to change?
[16:27] <MrObvious> I am just not that impressed at all.
[16:27] <yahuuu> i want to install ubuntu 7.10 on my machine but after click the first option (install ubuntu) my computer screen turned black and nothing happen after that.... any suggestion?
[16:27] <MrObvious> yahuuu: Does your computer still seem to respond?
[16:27] <yahuuu> and 3 months back i use the same CD and same machine to install ubuntu and it was so easy but now i am facing problems
[16:28] <William__> i am ni angola
[16:28] <mlo> Can someone tell me if the latest Ubuntu beta supports the ATI HD 3850 out of the box, or would I have to experiment with drivers from Ati/Amd's website?
[16:28] <mattan> @ice_cream but you spoke about a file: but where is it
[16:28] <yahuuu> MrObvious: what do u meanby respond?
[16:28] <MrObvious> yahuuu: The quick fix is to try the Alternate CD or reburn the CD again really really slow (2-4x).
[16:28] <MrObvious> yahuuu: Number Lock lights are a good indication.
[16:28] <Lamego> !hardy | mlo
[16:28] <ubotu> mlo: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[16:28] <redman> you people are using the ubuntu server to receive your mail?
[16:28] <erUSUL> mlo: better ask in #ubuntu+1 where beta is discussed
[16:28] <William__> how can i change the virtualbox network status to Bridge,not NAT?????
[16:28] <MrObvious> redman: I use Thunderbird and GMail through IMAP. :)
[16:29] <shArk> amenado: the same..
[16:29] <yahuuu> i have the iso image without alternate CD, can i download alternate CD image seperatly ? and then i can combine them and burn a CD
[16:29] <MrObvious> yahuuu: No. They have to be seperate discs.
[16:29] <redman> are some hackers here?
[16:29] <Lamego> yahuuu, uh combine ? you can't combine isos
[16:29] <norritt> someone knows how to generate a new sll cert chainfile?
[16:29] <yahuuu> MrObvious: num locks lights are enable
[16:29] <MrObvious> redman: What are you asking for?
[16:29] <yahuuu> ohhh
[16:30] <shArk> amenado: is it ok that there are 2 equality symbols ? --title= and then PS1= ?
[16:30] <Helix82> DoDo, not able to send to you
[16:30] <redman> obvious i wanted to know if someone is a hacker
[16:30] <mattan> @ice_cream whatshould be wrong with it
[16:30] <norritt> lol
[16:30] <MrObvious> mlo: I'd imagine it will work but won't have any of the enhanced graphics support. I think AMD has some drivers but they aren't as good as NVidia's still sadly.
[16:30] <sipior> redman: that's a rather loaded question
[16:30] <yahuuu> but what is the problem with my computer, i was able to install ubuntu without alternate CD :(
[16:30] <MrObvious> mlo: But you gotta give props to AMD. The drivers are slowly getting better.
[16:30] <yahuuu> i am just worried why its not installing
[16:30] <redman> spirior: what do you mean with that
[16:31] <MrObvious> yahuuu: Maybe the disc went bad.
[16:31] <CVD-PR> any difference between normal and alternate apart of the live?
[16:31] <Lamego> CVD-PR, no
[16:31] <yahuuu> MrObvious: i have 4 disks and i cheke all of them on my laptop and it works well there,
[16:31] <Lamego> well, the installet
[16:31] <MrObvious> CVD-PR: One is text, the other is GUI. The text is great for people who don't quite have compatible hardware when installing Ubuntu.
[16:31] <suxxor> help help trying to run the virtual machine it shows me the next error "Unable to change virtual machine power state: The process exited with an error:
[16:31] <MrObvious> I think.
[16:31] <suxxor> End of error message."
[16:31] <mlo> Thank you, I keep trying Ubuntu out on each major release, I usually have problems with ATI's poor drivers.  I loved to switch completely.
[16:31] <AVFC1> Anybody know why i can barely resize my XP partition even though there is 30Gb+ off free space http://xs226.xs.to/xs226/08145/wtf918.png http://xs126.xs.to/xs126/08145/errors816.png (I'm on Live CD hoping to install)
[16:32] <redman> see you then
[16:32] <suxxor> somebody to help me
[16:32] <yahuuu> MrObvious: tell me, do i need to format the disk or ubuntu will format it by itself? if i get luky to reach to install ubuntu desktop
[16:32] <AtomicMongoose> NTFS does have this habbit of writtin all sorts of places,  try a defrag?
[16:33] <MrObvious> yahuuu: You have to format it somehow. Ubuntu has a formatter built in.
[16:33] <ice_cream> mattan, the sudoers file?  it's in /etc/sudoers ; you can see what's inside as root by typing   cat /etc/sudoers
[16:33] <Lamego> AVFC1, have you run chkdsk /f from windows ?
[16:33] <MrObvious> lol
[16:33] <bigb> hi, i have this problem... i deleted sda6(fat32-6gb) with gparted and used that space to resize sda5(ext3-6gb), but now df says sda5 is 6gb instead 12gb
[16:33] <rico> any1 know when HH will be released, it says April 08 and its now April, any idea on what day? (a)
[16:33] <AVFC1> no... How would I do that Lamego? in cmd?
[16:33] <Lamego> AVFC1, yes, on windows, as described on the errot text
[16:34] <suxxor> help how to make the vmware run
[16:34] <DJones> rico, about another 20 days
[16:34] <owen1> how to get updates from terminal?
[16:34] <rico> cool :D
[16:34] <ice_cream> i'm just multitasking atm, sry for long answer delays
[16:34] <yahuuu> MrObvious: but i cant reach the ubuntu desktop to install it
[16:34] <Lamego> owen1, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:34] <owen1> Lamego: thanks
[16:34] <yahuuu> i will kick my computer
[16:34] <yahuuu> lol
[16:34] <AVFC1> oh damn i see it now >.<
[16:34] <incorrect> is there a scriptable way to clean out a disks partition table?
[16:34]  * AVFC1 goes back onto windows
[16:34] <MrObvious> yahuuu: I don't know. It's been a while since I've actually installed Ubuntu.
[16:35] <mattan> @icecream what is wrong with it
[16:35] <mlo> Is there any reason not to install the 64bit version of Ubuntu?  On Vista/XP 64bit there are quite a few incompatibilities with drivers/software, is this the case with Ubuntu.
[16:35] <Lamego> incorrect, dd
[16:35] <Randomtime> !64 bit
[16:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 64 bit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:35] <yahuuu> MrObvious: can i copy the whole CD into the HDD, is there any chance to install ubuntu from DOS prompe?
[16:35] <yahuuu> prompt*
[16:35] <Lamego> yahuuu, no
[16:35] <yahuuu> ahhhh :(
[16:35] <tayloreffect> If rTorrent was a woman... I would buy it a steak dinner.
[16:35] <Lamego> and it would improve your problem
[16:35] <sipior> incorrect: you could use sfdisk to read out, modify, and then read in a partition table
[16:36] <yahuuu> Lamego: so no soulution of my problem ?
[16:36] <simplexio> mlo: two reason java and flash plugins for browsers
[16:36] <ice_cream> mattan, did you have a problem w/ sudo or not; if you didnt, no need to change anything
[16:36] <compwiz18> mlo: if you need to use the Java web plugin, and you are in love with Flash (which works, but sometimes crashes), then go with 32, otherwise, 64 :)
[16:36] <Lamego> yahuuu, have you tried using the alternate disk ?
[16:36] <_elemental> hmm, I need to have libmysqlclient.so.14 for an app for work, ubunutu repos only have .15, anyone know how I can get .14 installed?
[16:37] <bofphile> What command line should I type to apply a patch ( usbaudio.c) to alsa-driver before compiling, please ?
[16:37] <lore20> _elemental: download it from packages.ubuntu.com
[16:37] <simplexio> mlo: and far as i know flash problem can be solved, but no java.
[16:37] <yahuuu> Lamego: i used to install live cd on the same machine and it works perfectly, why should i use alternate cd then
[16:37] <arvind_khadri> hi would enabling universe for 7.10 have an adverse affect in 7.04???
[16:37] <BrainBug> hello, i want to install Xubuntu on my old pc, main purpose is server , so i would download Dapper Drake, then i saw "alternate cd install" ... my question, what is this alternate cd? is this just without a theme or something that only install base...
[16:37] <Lamego> yahuuu, because the X server is failing to start on your machine, as per your description
[16:38] <MrObvious> arvind_khadri: You could just do an upgrade to 7.10....
[16:38] <mattan> @ice_cream: sorry to say this I really do not know
[16:38] <yahuuu> and besides, 3 days before i had ubunto on my HDD, after updating some updates ubuntu never start again
[16:38] <Lamego> arvind_khadri, yes, you can't use 7.10 packages on 7.04
[16:38] <lore20> BrainBug: I think yes
[16:38] <arvind_khadri> BrainBug, well its totally text and faster than live
[16:38] <nedw> has anyone had any success using a sigma hdtv5 with ubuntu?
[16:38] <BrainBug> then thats what i search ty
[16:38] <arvind_khadri> Lamego, thanks
[16:38] <MrObvious> arvind_khadri: You don't even have to lose your data. Just go to the place where you do your updates (Synaptic I think is the name) then push upgrade the OS or whatever it's called.
[16:38] <_elemental> lore20, um, where?  ubuntu repos do not have .14
[16:38] <mattan> @ice_cream we will see I have to go now
[16:38] <BrainBug> bb
[16:38] <ice_cream> ok
[16:38] <mattan> CU
[16:38] <yahuuu> Lamego: so need to download alternate cd ubuntu iso? and then try my luck ?
[16:39] <ice_cream> i only brought up that file because i thought you had a problem with using sudo
[16:39] <Lamego> yahuuu, yes, you should
[16:39] <yahuuu> Lamego : ok thanks :)
[16:39] <arvind_khadri> MrObvious, aah 7.10 isnt very stable and the one who uses tat is a Newbie i use 7.10
[16:39] <yahuuu> i hope my problem reslove
[16:39] <peter1138> hi, ubuntu 7.04 64bit livecd fails to boot for me, is 7.10 likely to fare better?
[16:39] <MrObvious> arvind_khadri: Well 8.04 should be out soon.
[16:40] <MrObvious> arvind_khadri: Maybe you will fare better with that.
[16:40] <lore20> peter1138: do you have a 64bit arc
[16:40] <lore20> ?
[16:40] <ice_cream> ah, moving on to letter h then? =P
[16:40] <sipior> peter1138: can't hurt to try
[16:40] <peter1138> lore20: yes
[16:40] <arvind_khadri> MrObvious, am waiting for it
[16:40]  * yahuuu starts downloading ubuntu with alternate CD
[16:40] <arvind_khadri> MrObvious,its on 28th i guess
[16:40] <peter1138> it fails in isolinux before actually booting
[16:40] <peter1138> the 32bit version boots fine
[16:40] <ice_cream> i find that i get fewer problems with fewer options
[16:40] <ice_cream> e.g. try booting the server edition, much smaller, etc
[16:41] <pittore> ciao
[16:41] <lore20> peter1138: try the alternate version
[16:41] <lore20> ciao
[16:41] <pittore> !list
[16:41] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[16:41] <pharoh> hey,on my desktop, the skydome to be specific,has this line that makes the lower half darker than the upper half.how do i get rid of this?
[16:41] <_elemental> anyone know how I can get libmysqlclient.so.14 installed?
[16:41] <ice_cream> !language | ubotu
[16:41] <ice_cream> lol
[16:41] <ubotu> ubotu: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[16:41] <Pici> ice_cream: don't do that.
[16:41] <ice_cream> dont say lol?
[16:41] <lore20> _elemental: you can search in debian repository
[16:42] <sipior> ice_cream: ubotu just got out of therapy. best not to get him talking to himself.
[16:42] <ice_cream> it was just a test =)
[16:42] <Pici> ice_cream: dont play with the bot like that. Theres already enough traffic in here.
[16:42] <MrObvious> Ok guys playing with the bot ain't cool.
[16:42] <MrObvious> At least in here....
[16:42] <tactikalnuke> sipior: alright -- now everything is going as planned...thanks for helping with my stupidity
[16:42] <tactikalnuke> LOL
[16:42] <ice_cream> playing w/ bots is my passison
[16:42] <ice_cream> passion
[16:42] <sipior> tactikalnuke: no worries. glad to help.
[16:42] <peter1138> hmm, is there a debian-like netinst version of the alternate installer?
[16:42] <ice_cream> i had begun writing one in ruby
[16:42] <pharoh> #compiz-fusion
[16:42] <ice_cream> i didnt realize that you'd get jealous, pici =P
[16:43] <lore20> peter1138: no, you should download the alternate
[16:43] <Lamego> peter1138, there is, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[16:43] <arvind_khadri> hey yeah xchat boots up faster when i use CLI than GUI
[16:44] <_elemental> lore20, don't see them in debian repos either
[16:44] <arvind_khadri> any specific reasons for tat??
[16:45] <Lamego> _elemental, whare are you tring to achieve ? You should no use packages from debian repositories on ubuntu
[16:45] <Lamego> not
[16:45] <arvind_khadri> MrObvious, hey yeah xchat boots up faster when i use CLI than GUI
[16:45] <_elemental> Lamego, I need libmysqlclient.so.14 for an app for work and i can only seem to find .15
[16:45] <Lamego> arvind_khadri, any CLI app boots faster than the GUI version, because of the libraries/resources required for the app
[16:46] <arvind_khadri> Lamego, ohh...thanks
[16:46] <Lamego> _elemental, tha app as compiled with a different mysql version, it is unlikely that it will work
[16:46] <Easy_Rider9999> how can I see  udma mode with ubuntu?
[16:46] <Easy_Rider9999> how can i see udma mode with ubuntu CD
[16:46] <sipior> _elemental: while it's not strictly kosher, you might just make a symlink from .so.14 to point at .so.15
[16:46] <tactikalnuke> sipior: how would I go about executing <find /media/storage/Library/.pdf -iname '*Microsoft*' | xargs ln -s --target-directory=/media/storage/Library/Software/Microsoft> if the file names have spaces in them????
[16:46] <arvind_khadri> Lamego, are there any CD/DVD burners like nero or so
[16:46] <_elemental> sipior, already tried that, version mismatches abound
[16:47] <Lamego> arvind_khadri, Add/Remove progams, search yourself, there are several options for cd burners
[16:47] <tactikalnuke> arvind_khadri: try out brasero...very nice program
[16:47] <sipior> _elemental: ah well
[16:47] <hischild> arvind_khadri: you can use the default one in nautilus iirc
[16:47] <jrib> sipior: see the examples in 'man find' with the -print0 option
[16:47] <hischild> served me well so far
[16:47] <arvind_khadri> Lamego, or even something with CLI would do
[16:47] <_elemental> Lamego, so I shuld recompile that app against .15 and see if it works?
[16:47] <sipior> jrib: mistell, you're thinking of tactikalnuke, i think
[16:47] <bod_> hey guys, ive been looking at zenity dialog box's hopin to implement them into a loin script of mine, i no that when i click the 'ok' or 'close' button it send an exit status number which kills zenity, how can i use that in an if statement, like   if exitStatus = 1 then cp /file /to/file else rm /file     ??
[16:47] <Lamego> arvind_khadri, google.com, linux cd burn how to
[16:47] <sls> hey, does anyone know what the closes match in Linux is to this software: http://www.dvdfab.com/fab-compare.htm
[16:47] <arvind_khadri> tactikalnuke, sure i would :)
[16:48] <arvind_khadri> Lamego, hey sorry forgot to google....
[16:48] <jrib> tactikalnuke: see the examples in 'man find' with the -print0 option
[16:48] <jrib> sipior: indeed :)
[16:48] <tactikalnuke> jrib: thx
[16:48] <hender> ;
[16:49] <incorrect> i am trying to automate mdadm --create however it keeps asking me to confirm ,  is there anyway to -y this?
[16:50] <sls> anyone:anyone know what the closes match in Linux is to this software: http://www.dvdfab.com/fab-compare.htm
[16:50] <usuario_> luis perez
[16:51] <hischild> sls: look at k3b or search synaptic for it
[16:51] <sipior> incorrect: you could try wrapping it in a shell here document, feed it the input it expects in that fashion
[16:52] <erUSUL> incorrect: use "yes" ??
[16:53] <pharoh> what is API exactly?
[16:53] <genii> application programming interface
[16:54] <pharoh> genii, as in what does it do?
[16:54] <pharoh> genii, what can it be used for?
[16:54] <genii> pharoh: Usually provides some routine you can call from your own program to interact with a particular program
[16:55] <pharoh> genii, oh so like it enables different programs to call each other?
[16:55] <hischild> when i select a location for apt-mirror that isn't on my local drive (but and external one) will it write any data to my local drive?
[16:55] <genii> pharoh: Basically, yes.
[16:55] <sipior> hischild: yes
[16:55] <pharoh> genii, :)
[16:56] <hischild> sipior: uhoh ... can you specify where?
[16:56] <tactikalnuke> jrib: for some reason <find /media/storage/Library/.pdf -iname '*Microsoft*' -type f -print0 | xargs ln -s --target-directory=/media/storage/Library/Software/Microsoft> is still only making symlinks of each individual word of the acutal pdf...suggestions?
[16:57] <genii> pharoh: Sometimes only a small fraction of the program. Like perhaps maybe just ask it something simple like "who is the user running me right now" or something
[16:58] <sipior> hischild: i may be mistaken, actually. could you show the precise command line you used?
[16:58] <hischild> sipior: sudo apt-mirror
[16:58] <Tomasso> whats the easiest way to get svn working in ubuntu? i wasnt able to get it woring with svnserve :(
[16:59] <hischild> sipior: which is quite simply not useful ... i copied the local skeleton structure to my external drive and then pointed it to make a local repo there
[16:59] <tactikalnuke> for some reason <find /media/storage/Library/.pdf -iname '*Microsoft*' -type f -print0 | xargs ln -s --target-directory=/media/storage/Library/Software/Microsoft> is still only making symlinks of each individual word of the acutal pdf...suggestions?
[17:01] <sipior> tactikalnuke: add a --null to xargs' argument list?
[17:01] <Lasivian> Hiya folks. Where does the Package Manager install applications to?
[17:02] <tactikalnuke> sipior: and yes...   ./.pdf is a hidden direcotry
[17:02] <hischild> Lasivian: to whatever location the program needs to be installed
[17:02] <tactikalnuke> sipior: ok...i'll try that
[17:03] <tactikalnuke> sipior: that worked...
[17:03] <sipior> hischild: what did you specify as the base-path for the mirror?
[17:03] <tactikalnuke> sipior: i don't think that using a symlink to a hidden file works though
[17:04] <tactikalnuke> sipior: but ty...that did exactly what I needed it to do
[17:04] <hischild> sipior: the external drive it's creating the repo at
[17:04] <sipior> hischild: then i think you should be fine
[17:05] <sipior> hischild: did it not work?
[17:05] <hischild> sipior: thanks, a good comfort :-) it's working so far (about 20 from 40gb done so far) but i'm worried that it might decide to go awol on me and so something weird
[17:06] <own1x> good day, I have ubuntu 6.06 2.6.15-51-server installed on two machines, but cannot get IPVS to work because it says it's not built into the kernel, anyone have an idea how to compile IPVS support into the kernel?
[17:06] <hischild> *do
[17:06] <Pelo> own1x, sudo apt-get install ipvsadm , possibly
[17:07] <high-freq> hello
[17:07] <Pelo> !hi | high-freq
[17:07] <ubotu> high-freq: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[17:07] <own1x> so it is installed, ok thank you Pelo
[17:07] <TiTAnIuM_Frustat> salut la foire
[17:08] <Pelo> own1x, installed not necessaraly working
[17:08] <Pelo> salut TiTAnIuM_Frustat , ici c'est le canal en anglais,  pour le canal en francais  tape  /join #ubuntu-fr
[17:08] <hti_pr1> hey guys havin trouble with dma and the libata driver.  I think it is related to this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/110636 but the only info I can find is a little dated.  Just wondering if anyone knows of a fix for this.
[17:09] <own1x> Pelo: seems to not be configured propely then I guess, when i do ipvsadm -L -n I get no results
[17:09] <Pelo> own1x, maybe the ppl in #neworking or in ##linux can help you out , I'm just your basic home user
[17:09] <LjL> !away > Raff7[AwAy]    (Raff7[AwAy], see the private message from Ubotu)
[17:09] <Raff7[AwAy]> LjL al momento sono away, motivo: study
[17:09] <own1x> Pelo: thanks!
[17:11] <docwat232> Hello.
[17:11] <hti_pr1> anyone still having issues with setting dma on pata drives
[17:11] <hti_pr1> or found a fix
[17:11]  * Pelo is gonna start comming in in the mornings,  it's so quiet and restfull 
[17:12] <RyanPrior> I'm having some minor trouble with my graphics card. I want to have direct rendering capability, but my glxinfo says "direct rendering: No (LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT set)". I'm using fglrx, which I just installed using the hardware driver manager.
[17:13] <Lamego> RyanPrior, if you are using hardy keep your issues on #ubuntu+1
[17:13] <yumi> can anyone help with a tv out issue? i'm trying to clone my screen output to tv through s-video, and the resolution on tv is wrong (i have to push the borders of the screen with the mouse to see it all).
[17:14] <Pelo> !dualhead | yumi have you tried doing it this way ?
[17:14] <ubotu> yumi have you tried doing it this way ?: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[17:14] <RPClancy> Is there a channel for suslinux?
[17:14] <hti_pr1> your virtual resolution is set higher that physical resolution
[17:14] <RPClancy> suse*
[17:14] <Pelo> RPClancy, try #opensuse or #suse
[17:14] <RPClancy> thank you
[17:15] <hti_pr1> can anyone point me to a channel that might be able to help with dma+libata issues on Gutsy Gibbon
[17:15] <Pelo> hti_pr1,  I thought you said you found a solution ?
[17:16] <Pelo> hti_pr1, in #hardware maybe,  not sure it,s a gutsy problems in itself
[17:16] <docwat232> I have a Dell Latitude C600 that I'd like to install 7.10 on that is stalling on boot up at the ubuntu flash screen. The dvd drive just stops. I've disable all the power management in the bios, but no change. Any ideas?
[17:16] <hti_pr1> The situation doesn't exactly fit, it si for controllers with ide and sata, mine is strictly pata
[17:16] <yumi> Pelo: i've read this post before, didnt help =/
[17:16] <Pelo> docwat232, do you get as far as the cd menu ?  try the text based install
[17:17] <yumi> Pelo: i have an nvidia card, using the nvidia-settings app
[17:18] <Pelo> yumi, I don'T know anything about it but hti-pr1 did tell you to adjust the virtual resolution of the monitor (tv) I guess taht mgith be in menu > system > prefs> resolution or monitors
[17:18] <docwat232> I'm downloading the alternative iso now. I get to the menu. After selecting the install option, it goes to the ubuntu logo with the progress bar thingy, then it stops. The bar just tracks back and forth.
[17:19] <yumi> Pelo: hti-pr1: i'll try, thank you
[17:19] <Pelo> docwat232, the alternate install cd should help, but if you have the dvd , the text installer is already on it
[17:19] <mid5> nick mid5
[17:19] <Pelo> mid5,   /nick newnick
[17:19] <boris> hello
[17:19] <boris> i havent got any sound. sometimes im getting sound after reboo, sometimes nor
[17:19] <boris> not*
[17:20] <boris> reboot*
[17:20] <Pelo> boris, check in menu > system > admin > restricted drivers see if you have a restricted driver you need to install
[17:20] <rzec> Lets say i install the beta of ubuntu 8.04.  When it is offically released will i need to download it again of will i just be about to upgrade the beta to the full release through the automatic update system?
[17:20] <hischild> rzec: just update it :-)
[17:20] <Pelo> rzec, you will just update if any new mods hve been included in the OFficial
[17:21] <rzec> cool, just wanted to make sure.
[17:21] <yumi> Pelo: hti-pr1: worked! thank you so much!
[17:21] <DanielRS> When I try to upgrade to Ubuntu 8.04 through the "update manager" the small window frozes and it never installs. Can someone help me?
[17:21] <docwat232> Ok, I am at the install menu. Which option starts the text install?
[17:21] <bharadwaj> I have installed cdemu in gusty..It was successful, up and running. while i was installing NFSMW in cedega it asked for the fourt CD when I try to mount I get an error..I am in the middle of the installation help needed please..
[17:21] <Pelo> yumi, hti-pr1 is gone but I 'll pass it along
[17:21] <yumi> Pelo: lol, alright, thank you =)
[17:21] <Pelo> docwat232, read ,  I ' m not sure which it is , I don'T remember
[17:22] <Pelo> docwat232, when I say install menu , I mean the boot menu of the cd , the first thing you see after it's booted up
[17:22] <boris> Pelo: it says ive got to install linux restricted modules bla bla bla generic for the manager to work, im installing it now. i deleted it because of fglrx
[17:22] <hischild> DanielRS: try updating via CLI and see if it gives an error
[17:22] <mrgreaper> i hope im in the right place lol im having a problem with ubuntu ( a few to be honest) most pressing one is my windows pc cant access my samba shares i need to make linux samba not ask for passwords
[17:22] <DanielRS> hischild: How do I do that?
[17:22] <Pelo> boris, start with that , you can always put it back after
[17:23] <hischild> DanielRS: sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[17:23] <docwat232> Yes, that is where I am. "start or install ubuntu" is the option it stalls on.
[17:23] <Pelo> mrgreaper, try asking in #samba or in #smb ,  I'm no good with this network stuff
[17:24] <mrgreaper> ok will do
[17:24] <bharadwaj> mrgeaper:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605
[17:24] <Pelo> docwat232,do you have the cd or the dvd ?
[17:24] <docwat232> It is the 7.10 live cd, I believe.
[17:24] <bharadwaj> mrgreaper: do you want a guidence right from begining?
[17:24] <DanielRS> hischild: I'll try that. I need to reboot first, because it now can't "lock the administration directory"
[17:24] <hischild> DanielRS: don't reboot
[17:24] <Pelo> docwat232, if you have the cd you won'T have the alternate install on it ,  you'll hve to dl the alternate install cd,
[17:24] <hischild> !aptfix
[17:24] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[17:25] <hischild> DanielRS: execute that one.
[17:25] <DanielRS> hischild: I get that error
[17:25] <docwat232> Ah, ok. 400 megs to go then. Thanks for the help.
[17:25] <DanielRS> hischild:  "Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"
[17:26] <hischild> DanielRS: if you execute ==>  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a <== it'll unlock your database
[17:26] <Pelo> DanielRS, close synaptic , add/remove and /or dpkg,  you can only have one package manager running at a time
[17:27] <DanielRS> hischild:  It killed a process that was not in the "system monitor"
[17:27] <bharadwaj> anybody help please! I am in between the installation process when I mount the 4CD i get error in cdemu...
[17:28] <Pelo> bharadwaj, wht are you installing ?
[17:28] <hischild> DanielRS: that's possible. Please close all package managers and/or update managers you may have open and execute the following command again ==> sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[17:28] <boris> Pelo: it says "Your hardware doesnt need any restricted drivers"
[17:28] <DanielRS> hischild:  It's installing something. Now I'll wait to see if this works
[17:28] <QuickGold> what is the command line location for a samba share?
[17:28] <Pelo> boris, hold on
[17:28] <Pelo> !sound | boris proceede with this then
[17:28] <ubotu> boris proceede with this then: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[17:28] <QuickGold> i.e. //server1/sambashare ?
[17:29] <hischild> DanielRS: good. If it gives an error, please pastebin it and give us the link.
[17:29] <Pelo> QuickGold, try asking in #samba
[17:29] <dani__> hello !  I need a shortcut/command to list in terminal the current path ! PLZ HELP
[17:29] <bharadwaj> Pelo: I am installing NFSMW in cedega. Here is the error what I get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62130/
[17:29] <hischild> dani__: try pwd
[17:29] <Pelo> dani__, pwd
[17:30] <dani__> perfect ; 10x
[17:30] <Pelo> bharadwaj, ask in a cedaga channel
[17:30] <skillz> hi, im using the ping command to collect data, is there a way in which i remove all data and only leave the ping statistics provided at the bottom of each set, and output it to a file?
[17:30] <DanielRS> hischild:  It finished with no error, but still 7.10
[17:30] <boris> Pelo: ive got 3 deviced with (Alsa Mixer) : CA0106, Intel ICH5, USB Device bla bla bla
[17:30] <hischild> DanielRS:  what are you attempting?
[17:30] <hischild> skillz: didn't you ask it before and weren't you helped by someone who knew perl?
[17:30] <DanielRS> hischild:  Upgrade to 8.04
[17:30] <bharadwaj> Pelo: have a look at error my problem is with cdemu and cedega..
[17:30] <Pelo> boris, try each of them ,  acgtualy try the one your speakers are connected to
[17:30] <boris> Pelo: ive got 2 sound cards. 1, i believe intel ICH5, is integrated. i dont want to use it anymore
[17:31] <skillz> hischild: this is different
[17:31] <Pelo> boris, you might want to blacklist the driver for that one in modprobe, or try disabling it in your bios
[17:31] <phpluv> how can i mount an iso image to make it recognized as a cdrom drive ?
[17:31] <skillz> i just want to take the ping stats and output it to another file
[17:31] <boris> Pelo: ill try the BIOS. just need to get password first
[17:32] <Pelo> phpluv, not sure you can at this time, I think it's supposed to be fixed in hardy
[17:32] <nonix4> skillz: ping -q > file
[17:32] <bharadwaj> boris, have a look at this before going any further..https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting#head-72023a784829d5d128546a6092d67062ab50dfea
[17:32] <Pelo> bharadwaj, you are instaling from cd images ?
[17:32] <skillz> nonix4: i have all the data stored in a file
[17:32] <skillz> already
[17:33] <bharadwaj> pelo, yeah the *bin and cue file images..
[17:33] <phpluv> pelo: thanks for your answer i'm sad i really need this
[17:33] <Pelo> bharadwaj, you can't mount ,bin they hve to be iso
[17:33] <nonix4> skillz: just one host per file? tail -3
[17:33] <bharadwaj> Pelo: cdemu is used to mount *.bin and *cue files...:)
[17:33] <skillz> nonix4: i have 6 sets of hosts per file
[17:34] <Pelo> phpluv,  I tried to do ti for a kvcd but it didn'T work for me ,  maybe someone else knows, try looking in the forum  www.ubuntuforums.org
[17:34] <Pelo> bharadwaj, is cdemu a linux ap ?
[17:34] <hischild> DanielRS: i'm sorry for the slow response. I've checked and it would appear you have to do use the update-manager. However, it may take a long time for it to complete the update. Did you look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades?
[17:34] <InitMass> neither gparted or qtparted wants to start. what could be the reason?
[17:34] <bharadwaj> Pelo: 100% linux grown app...
[17:34] <phpluv> pelo i just looked but i ca't find information about making it seen as a regular cdrom drive unfortunately
[17:34] <Pelo> bharadwaj, try finding a cdemu channel
[17:35] <Pelo> phpluv, burn baby burn
[17:35] <somewherebackinc> Hi!  I need help!  My usb printer port is disabled sometimes and my printer is not working. Any suggest?
[17:35] <Pelo> ;-)
[17:35] <bharadwaj> Pelo: I am afraid they don't have it..only mailling lists but I am in the middle of the installation so mailing lists won't really help me out..
[17:35] <somewherebackinc> I use Ubuntu 7.04
[17:35] <Pelo> somewherebackinc, menu > SYSTEM > prefs > removable media ,  check to make sure the autodetect printer box is checked , that,s the only suggestion I have
[17:36] <w0nder> yo, i just installed Gutsy... what's a good list of extras i should install to improve my overall experience? fonts, etc?
[17:36] <dngr> can 7.10 be upgraderd to 8.04?
[17:36] <skillz> i have 6 sets of host per ping file, i jsut want to extract the ping statistics from the file, and output it, can anyone help?
[17:36] <DanielRS> hischild:  I got the code I'm using from there. But after clicking "upgrade" and after a few screens, I just got an empty window with the title "Distribution Upgrade"
[17:36] <somewherebackinc> Thansk Pelo
[17:36] <Pelo> !fonts > w0nder check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[17:36] <Pelo> !flash > w0nder check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[17:36] <Pelo> !dvd > w0nder
[17:37] <hischild> DanielRS: can you screenshot it and put it at a site like imageshack.us ?
[17:37] <Pelo> !mp3 > w0nder
[17:37] <phpluv> Pelo: burning is too expensive in this case
[17:37] <suxxor> i`ve started vmware through adminester account but when i start to make virtual machine it doesn`t show me the home partion where i have space to create the machine , help!
[17:37] <bharadwaj> somewherebackinc, first go through this...http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/printing_ubuntu  later....https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/TroubleShooting
[17:37] <hischild> suxxor: don't use your admin account to start vmware. It should run as normal user iirc.
[17:37] <Pelo> phpluv, what is on the cd ?
[17:37] <phpluv> Pelo: OS X
[17:38] <ptn107> dngr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades
[17:38] <phpluv> Pelo: VMWare wont allow me to select an arbitrarty mount point, it has to be a CD
[17:38] <skillz> i have 6 sets of host per ping file, i jsut want to extract the ping statistics from the file, and output it, can anyone help?
[17:38] <Pelo> phpluv, , assuming this isnT' for an install ,  youcan try and extract the iso to a folder using fileroller and then pick the files you want from it,
[17:38] <Troofy> iam tring to install inspircd that requires g++ and having this error. (i dont have the ubuntu install cd atm) http://pastebin.com/m37936ed6 any help?
[17:38] <hischild> skillz: use tail, grep and cut.
[17:39] <Pelo> phpluv, just brainstorming here, but create a 700 meg partiton , extract the iso to it , then make a create a symlink pointing the cdrom to the partiton ,
[17:39] <skillz> hischild: can you please help, i dont know how?
[17:40] <bharadwaj> hischild: go to system->synaptic Package manager->repositories->sources and uncheck the CD
[17:40] <DanielRS> hischild: you can see it in: on-logica.net/Screenshot.png
[17:40] <noodlesgc> Troofy you need to go to System->Administration->Software Sources and uncheck the cd
[17:40] <hischild> bharadwaj: wrong nick?
[17:40] <bod_> can anyone with a bit of programming knowledge take a look at this plz (the question is at the bottom of the paste) -- http://pastebin.com/f6ce74da2 -- thanks ;~)
[17:40] <bharadwaj> hischild: oh yeah! sorry mean that thing was meant for Troofy
[17:40] <hischild> bharadwaj: np
[17:40] <bharadwaj> Troofy: go to system->synaptic Package manager->repositories->sources and uncheck the CD
[17:41] <nonix4> skillz: so were you actually interested in any other lines than hostname & rtt? egrep '^---|^rtt' yourfile # would do the filtering...
[17:41] <Pelo> bob_, ask in #bash
[17:41] <hischild> DanielRS: that's just outright odd ... did you give it some time?
[17:41] <phpluv> Pelo: can't i make a symlink pointing to the mointed iso instead ?
[17:41] <bod_> Pelo, they scare me, and i got no answer
[17:41] <skillz> nonix4: yeh all im interested in is the rtt  realy..
[17:42] <Pelo> phpluv, , I don'T know , I don'T even know if the other one would work , I was just throwing stuff out ,
[17:42] <DanielRS> hischild: I had the same problem when upgrading from 7.04 to 7.10 and then I gave it around 10hours
[17:42] <Troofy> bharadwaj noodlesgc ok thx
[17:42] <bertvdp> hi, how can I mount a DVD image so I can play it with a movie player (just standard loop mounting does NOT work) ???
[17:42] <hischild> DanielRS: did it happen to fix it?
[17:42] <DanielRS> hischild: That time a got a CD from a magazine
[17:43] <suxxor> 10x
[17:43] <Pelo> bertvdp, just loop mount it and play the .VOB files
[17:43] <hischild> DanielRS: you can dl the cd from Ubuntu
[17:43] <Roger_Smith> bertvdp: mount -o loop disk1.iso /mnt/disk
[17:43] <DanielRS> hischild: Too slow internet connection (512kbps)
[17:44] <Pelo> Roger_Smith, but that doesn't let you play it as a dvd , it just mounts it as regular data
[17:44] <row_> I want to use my nokia n95 (8gb) to connect my ubuntu laptop to the internet does anyone know how/of any howtos to do so?
[17:44] <row_> did a quick google and nothing jumped at me
[17:44] <Pelo> row_, try in the forum  www.ubuntuforums.org , there is table of content at the beginning
[17:44] <maek> rubbish ... Ive downloaded a 1.2 GB file on a 256kbps connection DanielRS
[17:45] <hischild> DanielRS: aww that sux tbqh .. i'm sorry but i'm lost then ... perhaps that time will give it a fix
[17:45] <nonix4> maek: just think of 60 gigabyte rsync over 256kbps... or 10 gigabytes over 14.4kbps :)
[17:45] <Troofy> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[17:45] <Troofy> i
[17:45] <DanielRS> hischild: I'll try to download the CD, but it'll probably give an error
[17:46] <magnetron> row_: the easiest will be to connect to the phone via bluetooth
[17:46] <Pelo> Troofy, close other package managers   synaptic adept add/remove etc
[17:46] <boris> bharadwaj : thank you, it seemed to work
[17:46] <Troofy> Pelo everything is closed
[17:46] <Pelo> someone had a command earlier to close extra processes that might use it , I can't scroll back that far
[17:47] <Pelo> hischild, were yo the one with te kill ocmmand for hidden dpkg processes ?
[17:47] <boris> now ive got another problem. the music regulation and mute buttons on my keyboard dont work. the internet, music player and play/pause buttons work
[17:48] <hischild> Pelo: i have no idea. Perhaps that sudo ps aux | grep dpkg would do what you want? i am only aware of !aptfix
[17:48] <Pelo> Troofy, try the command hischild just posted
[17:48] <bharadwaj> Troofy: your welcome
[17:48] <Troofy> Pelo no use
[17:49] <Pelo> arighty,  later folks
[17:49] <Pelo> Troofy, reboot
[17:49] <Pelo> later
[17:49] <ibou> How to open a *.cue file? Is it possible to mount it as an *.iso ?
[17:49] <nonix4> Hmm, anyone here installed ubuntu on a --bind mounted /boot? In another words, I'd like to install several distro versions on same /boot partition...
[17:49] <bharadwaj> boris: I am glad to hear that...welcome..
[17:50] <hischild> ibou: use bchunk to convert it to a .iso and then mount it.
[17:50]  * nonix4 's english generation code seems to be suffering from an engrish inflection...
[17:50] <Troofy> i see 'apache2' as a proces in ksysgaurd. anything wrong?
[17:51] <bharadwaj> boris: have a look at this...https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaKeys
[17:51] <ibou> hischild: i tryed but i can't use bchunk. I used this command : bchunk "New Model Army - High.cue" "New Model Army - High.iso" "New Model Army"
[17:52] <hischild> ibou: that's true. bchunk <file.cue> <file.bin> <file.iso>
[17:52] <ibou> ok
[17:53] <Troofy> in linux can i make my pc a server for ircd + webserver + email server + some others. + desktop use too and keep it stable and up for months?
[17:53] <IndyGunFreak> Troofy: i don't see why not, but servers isn't my thing... I'll tell you my computer has been up for about 19 days, and has been fine
[17:54] <IndyGunFreak> it regularly goes at least a month before i restart it
[17:54] <IndyGunFreak> unless there's some sort of kernel upgrade, etc.
[17:54] <xFlipx> afternoon
[17:54] <simplexio> Troofy: da 19:57:36 up 302 days,  3:36, 18 users
[17:54] <ibou> hischild: i use this command : bchunk "New Model Army - High.cue" "New Model Army - High.bin" "New Model Army - High.iso". I have this error: Could not open CUE New Model Army - High.bin: No such file or directory
[17:54] <IndyGunFreak> damn, 302 days?
[17:54] <IndyGunFreak> thtas impressive
[17:55] <simplexio> Troofy: thought there is still vmsplice vulnearibility in that machine, but i trust users
[17:55] <hischild> ibou: then switch the .bin and .cue file.
[17:55] <_julian__> I did a dpkg -i on a package which failed to install due to missing dependencies. now I decided to not install that package at all, but if I try to install different packages I now get an error, because it tries to install that faulty package again. how can I remove that?
[17:55] <Troofy> IndyGunFreak hmm. any load things.. or some other aspects.. many advised me to have a cheap pc do all that work. i provide lan internet services to locals too.
[17:55] <mortal1> I just deleted about 20 avi's in xfs (using rm) that I need to recover
[17:55] <wonko69> Hi everyone. I was just wondering is there a way to configure session to start an application on a specific workspace?
[17:55] <Troofy> simplexio iam  a noob to understand that
[17:55] <mortal1> anyone done this before
[17:55] <genii> Troofy: I just explained in #kubuntu to instead use another box with ubuntu-server and no desktop. Then use your normal desktop box to ssh to it for maintenance, installations, etc etc
[17:55] <IndyGunFreak> Troofy: not really, just basic desktop stuff,
[17:55] <xFlipx> mortal: look in .trash
[17:55] <hischild> mortal1: there is no undelete utility for xfs i'm afraid.
[17:55] <Troofy> simplexio ic
[17:55] <IndyGunFreak> Troofy: but i agree w/ genii
[17:55] <xFlipx> doh
[17:56] <hischild> xFlipx: rm removes, not moves to trash
[17:56] <xFlipx> si
[17:56] <IndyGunFreak> so why were you using rm?
[17:56] <xFlipx> he really wanted them gone
[17:56] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[17:56] <IndyGunFreak> apparently not
[17:56] <Troofy> genii i have a p4 1.8g 1g ram atm. if i have to buy a p3 1g as a server. why not upgrade my p4 to dualcore and use one pc for all???
[17:56] <xFlipx> lol
[17:56] <simplexio> Troofy:.. but like that uptime tells, it should be there until you start lose hardware or power
[17:56] <xFlipx> 20 bucks says it was pr0n
[17:57] <IndyGunFreak> i thougth he deleted it, and din't want to?
[17:57] <ZurnaNet41> Hi guys , could you please check this webpage out, and give me your feedback www.eismanicaclara.com
[17:57] <xFlipx> you're right
[17:57] <IndyGunFreak> or wanted to restore it?
[17:57] <Serveck> hey, im hyaving some issues getting my laptop to go into suspend or hibernate
[17:57] <xFlipx> yepz
[17:57] <mortal1> negative, I wanted to remove all the sub files from a directory with avis
[17:57] <hischild> Troofy: for if one goes wrong, the other still runs
[17:57] <Troofy> simplexio ok. i have a p4 1.8g 1g ram atm. if i have to buy a p3 1g as a server. why not upgrade my p4 to dualcore and use one pc for all???
[17:57] <Serveck> i click on hibernate, the screen goes blank, and i get root
[17:57] <IndyGunFreak> xFlipx: you want to restore it, or dleete it so your parents couldn't find it?..lol
[17:57] <xFlipx> lol
[17:57] <mortal1> I issued rm *.s* thinking it would just delete them
[17:57] <Serveck> how do i restart from root?
[17:58] <xFlipx> wth is auto complete in xchat?!
[17:58] <ibou> hischild: error: Could not open BIN New Model Army - High.bin: No such file or directory
[17:58] <IndyGunFreak> Serveck: well, you really shouldn't be logged in as root, so the same way you restart a user
[17:58] <ibou> ...
[17:58] <mortal1> lo and behold half the directory of avi's disapear
[17:58] <ZurnaNet41> Hi guys , could you please check this webpage out, and give me your feedback www.eismanicaclara.com
[17:58] <IndyGunFreak> !tab | xFlipx
[17:58] <ubotu> xFlipx: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[17:58] <Serveck> thats what i dont know, im completely new to linux
[17:58] <simplexio> Troofy: well new dualcore dosent cost that much. so you could even buy new computer for that desktop use
[17:58] <xFlipx> yar it's not working - oh well
[17:58] <hischild> ibou: then the file doesn't exist. Please doublecheck if the file exists
[17:58] <sipior> ZurnaNet41: not really the purpose of this channel
[17:58] <Serveck> it says: sdisk: snapshotting system
[17:58] <Serveck> and just hangs
[17:59] <ZurnaNet41> Hi guys , could you please check this webpage out, and give me your feedback www.eismanicaclara.com
[17:59] <Troofy> simplexio hm
[17:59] <Serveck> im locked in the KDE screen
[17:59] <LollinopiL> with gimp i can't see all the window setting so i can' give the OK button WTF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:59] <genii> Troofy: X uses quite a lot of resources to run, also it's a security risk for running it on a box to be a server.
[17:59] <simplexio> Troofy: in desktop/server problem usualy is that desktop sometimes eats all power and other way around. so desktop could be slow or server side program are slow
[17:59] <IndyGunFreak> did you guys see that $299 Freespire PC for sale... can't remember who trhough now.
[17:59] <Troofy> simplexio i would have to buy biger ups and battery too then. if i use 2 pcs
[17:59] <simplexio> Troofy: in 2 machine configuraton there isnt that problem
[17:59] <xFlipx> IndyGunFreak: was walmart?
[17:59] <simplexio> Troofy: hwo big ups ?
[17:59] <xFlipx> wow tab worked this time...
[17:59] <sipior> ZurnaNet41: still not an appropriate venue...
[18:00] <IndyGunFreak> xFlipx: well, walmart has one, and then there was another.. one was running freespire, don't remember what the other was running
[18:00] <ZurnaNet41> Hi guys , could you please check this webpage out, and give me your feedback www.eismanicaclara.com
[18:00] <uberblue> 9111
[18:00] <genii> Troofy: Also since most servers are supposed to be up and operational as much as possible this means you need to keep your desktop box on all the time. It's better to just get an old P2 box with no gui
[18:00] <IndyGunFreak> xFlipx: tab works fine, you're having a user malfunction
[18:00] <bharadwaj> ibou: did you use AcetoneISO?
[18:00] <LollinopiL> with gimp i can't see all the window setting so i can' give the OK button WTF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i cn't resize it !! what can i do ?
[18:00] <ibou> hischild: what do you mean doublecheck ?
[18:00] <simplexio> Troofy: or "even" better solution. but that ols p4 as server and get yourself a laptop (includes ups)
[18:00] <Troofy> simplexio i have one to support one pc only
[18:00] <MrSteve> I have XP on this hard disk, and I have another 200gb drive to install.. I want Linux on it, and XP to remain as is..
[18:00] <mirnazim> hi guys. I am have this problem. DVDs are refusing to mount at all. when try to mount from command line it takes all the time in universe and nothing happens
[18:00] <hischild> ibou: "can't open file" means either it can't read the file or the file isn't there.
[18:01] <mirnazim> some googling tells me updates are the culprit. any idea guys. Any soft of help is greatly appreciated
[18:01] <sipior> mirnazim: bad discs? or bad drive?
[18:01] <Serveck> what is the command for reboot in kde?
[18:01] <ibou> bharadwaj:  yes the last version can't convert or mount .cue files
[18:01] <MrSteve> so far, I have not seen where.. two drives and two OS can run
[18:01] <simplexio> Troofy: i have 1kW ups to power 2 :) not bad for 80e
[18:01] <Troofy> simplexio  genii k
[18:01] <Bunjo> Hello I am trying to install ubuntu 7.10 but it is throwing me an error, is this the place where I can seek help?
[18:01] <tabber> anyone knows why under the "extensions with errors" tab of the deskbar applet I get "beagled could not be found in your $PATH"?
[18:01] <bharadwaj> ibou: what is your purpose of *.cue or *.bin?
[18:01] <xFlipx> IndyGunFreak: It's pebkac...
[18:01] <sipior> mirnazim: have you tried several different discs? (pressed and burned)
[18:01] <IndyGunFreak> xFlipx: lol, wait.. whats that one OS that is based on Ubuntu.. gOS or something?.. thats what the other one in the review had
[18:01] <hischild> what is the suggested IRCD that's easy on cpu?
[18:02] <mirnazim> yes actually VCDs and data CDs are working fine. I can burn then as well
[18:02] <mirnazim> but DVD movie or data DVD not working
[18:02] <wonko69> nobody knows how to automatically start an application on a workspace other then 1?
[18:02] <IndyGunFreak> IRCD?
[18:02] <Bunjo> Anyone knows if ubuntu 7.10 supports Visiontek x1650 pro PCIe card? or if there is a bug with it?
[18:02] <harushimo> I am having a problem with flash
[18:02] <sipior> mirnazim: forgive me for asking, but it is a dvd-capable drive?
[18:02] <IndyGunFreak> mirnazim: you need to install the DVD codecs
[18:02] <IndyGunFreak> sipior: lol
[18:03] <harushimo> any website I go, when I am streaming video, it goes gray
[18:03] <harushimo> the site screen
[18:03] <simplexio> hischild: i think that all ircd are pretty much easy
[18:03] <sipior> IndyGunFreak: i don't mean that to be insulting. i've seen it before.
[18:03] <kane77> wonko69, there is app called devilspie that does that
[18:03] <ibou> bharadwaj: my file is a .cue
[18:03] <IndyGunFreak> sipior: it struck me as comical.
[18:03] <harushimo> what do I do
[18:03] <genii> Troofy: The server kernel is also different from the generic kernel in that optimised for multiuser performance and not for speed of running programs. So you will have overall slower running of X etc. Also many modules for things like ati cards, nvidia etc etc are not being compiled for -server version
[18:03] <wonko69> kane77, thanks I will look into it
[18:03] <simplexio> hischild: if you dont plan to eun it with hundreds users, and then network probably is first to give problems
[18:03] <IndyGunFreak> harushimo: thats probably not a flash site them, its some other codec, does Youtube work?
[18:03] <bharadwaj> ibou: is that you want to mount it?
[18:03] <mirnazim> sipior:  my dvd drive is capable of reading and writing DVDs.
[18:04] <mirnazim> and yes I have all the codecs
[18:04] <MrSteve> I have XP on this hard disk, and I have another 200gb drive to install.. I want Linux on it, and XP to remain as is..
[18:04] <harushimo> IndyGunFreak: let me check
[18:04] <sipior> mirnazim: of course, apologies. have you tried different type of DVDs in it?
[18:04] <ibou> bharadwaj: yes
[18:04] <IndyGunFreak> mirnazim: then you should be able to play DVDs
[18:04] <IndyGunFreak> !dvd | harushimo
[18:04] <ubotu> harushimo: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[18:04] <harushimo> the site loads up but it show the videos
[18:04] <sipior> mirnazim: i assume mounting data discs doesn't work either?
[18:04] <harushimo> doesn't
[18:05] <mirnazim> yes I was able to play DVDs 12-20 days back. Just did  not watch a dvd for some time due to work presure
[18:05] <IndyGunFreak> harushimo: and you're sure flash is installed?
[18:05] <Troofy> genii how about i use desktop install. for all.
[18:05] <bharadwaj> ibou: try cdemu I am using it and really a very nice to try out to mount any image file...
[18:05] <hischild> simplexio: it doesn't have to be easy as i'm fairly good at figuring things out. Network will be a 54MBit wlan network ran from school. I'm attempting to set up a personal network for us linux users who use wlan and would like IRC for communication
[18:05] <harushimo> yeah, its installed
[18:05] <suxxor> i can`t run this vmware it shows me this error attemting to start the machine "Unable to change virtual machine power state: The process exited with an error:
[18:05] <suxxor> End of error message."
[18:05] <mirnazim> sipior: yes i tried mounting from command line
[18:05] <sipior> mirnazim: then the obvious question--what did you change?
[18:05] <IndyGunFreak> harushimo: what browser/version and what version of ubuntu?
[18:05] <harushimo> IndyGunFreak: its installed and the version is 2.0.12
[18:05] <simplexio> hischild: why you dont use some existing network
[18:05] <ibou> bharadwaj: ok thanks
[18:06] <mirnazim> spiror: nothing related to DVD playing. Just installed reglar updates from ubuntu
[18:06] <harushimo> IndyGunFreak: ubuntu 7.10
[18:06] <ibou> hischild: thanks but the file is there. I try by renaming it
[18:06] <sipior> mirnazim: you might try cleaning the lens--might be having trouble with DVDs (the requirements for CDs are, i understand, not quite as demanding)
[18:06] <Troofy> genii heres the complete info btw
[18:06] <Troofy>  ircd, webhosting, email server, giveing lan internet to local ppl in colony. (packet shapers, band limiters), personal use , gaming. windows gamings too. ( i rarely switch to windows though, for gaming. (no 3d support in vbox or wmware)).  i currently have p4 1.8g 1g ram. and a ups that supports one pc only.
[18:06] <IndyGunFreak> harushimo: i don't know.. doesn'tm make any sense, cuz it works fine for me
[18:06] <redwhitewaldo> i'm on xubuntu. i'm trying to install skype, but it says 'Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libqt4-core". How do i get that libqt4-core file?
[18:06] <simplexio> hischild: usually keeping servers behind wlan is bad idea
[18:06] <mirnazim> sipior: in fact I am still able to play VCDs
[18:06] <Bunjo> Anyone knows what does ERR8 when I start the installation of UBUNTU 7.10 means?
[18:06] <IndyGunFreak> harushimo: and 99.9% of other people
[18:06] <hischild> simplexio: because we don't get access to the internet access there :(
[18:06] <simplexio> hischild: ahh..
[18:07] <simplexio> hischild: i think pretty muhc any ircd that you can configure is good
[18:07] <Scunizi> anyone get an error in Kmymoney2 on Gutsy when adding a new account that says "unable to add account:Unknown account id 'A000204'? but the account shows up in the list. Is this just a phantom error that means nothing?
[18:07] <hischild> simplexio: considering the server will be about 1m from the router i think that end will be fine. alright
[18:07] <IndyGunFreak> mirnazim: do you have libdvdcss installed?
[18:07] <sipior> mirnazim: if you have already excluded the drive, and you have already excluded the operating system, what do you think the problem might be?
[18:07] <simplexio> hischild: well traffic to "pollutes" whole router "air" bandwith
[18:08] <xFlipx> IndyGunFreak: Might be cheaper to get some hardware from newegg - I guess that doesn't mean much though if you don't already have a computer to burn the iso onto...
[18:08] <harushimo> IndyGunFreak: its working now
[18:08] <simplexio> hischild: but ircd shouldnt create that much traffic
[18:08] <IndyGunFreak> harushimo: its a miracle
[18:08] <xFlipx> 299 for an internet box isn't bad
[18:08] <harushimo> IndyGunFreak: tell me about it
[18:08] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[18:08] <mirnazim> sipior: as of now i have no idea. but i tested the same DVD on gutsy system which had not installed any updates
[18:08] <hischild> simplexio: i was hoping it wouldn't create much :-)
[18:08] <mirnazim> spirior: and it worked flawlessly
[18:09] <sipior> mirnazim: but not the identical hardware?
[18:09] <harushimo> thanks everyone
[18:09] <redwhitewaldo> people, where do i get libqt4-core?
[18:09] <IndyGunFreak> redwhitewaldo: probably the repositories.. what are you trying to install that needs it?
[18:10] <xFlipx> lol
[18:10] <tonage> I want my ubuntu sytem to display on my tv.  Anyone know of a video card that will definately work?
[18:10] <mirnazim> spirior: so any idea where to look for problem
[18:10] <Wanderer> with a shell regex, I am doing "cat <file> | grep [0-9].[0-9]"
[18:10] <Wanderer> how do I make it grab the numbers at the begging of the line
[18:10] <Scunizi> tonage, i've used nvidia 6000 series..
[18:10] <Wanderer> like "grep ^[0-9]" ?
[18:11] <Bunjo> Does Visiontek ATI X1650 PRo work on ubuntu 7.10 ?
[18:11] <MrSteve> hmm.. can't burn dvd.. might be copy protect set your dvd... try to run the dvd now in the good system.. before doing more.
[18:11] <xFlipx> Bunjo: it'll work
[18:11] <IndyGunFreak> Bunjo: it'll *work*.. now installing the ATI drivers for it, might be a pain, but it will work w/ the generic vga/vesa driver, you just may not get desktop effects, etc.
[18:11] <sipior> i'm still not convinced that the drive isn't the problem. if you have an extra optical drive (or know how to boot from a usb stick), you might try booting the machine with the gutsy live cd, and see if it can mount DVDs in that state.
[18:12] <MrSteve> yes, that would be a clean install with diff dvd codec
[18:12] <sipior> mirnazim: sorry, see my immediately previous comment
[18:12] <IndyGunFreak> brb, gonna try to start wireless on gutsy... :)
[18:12] <IndyGunFreak> *hardy
[18:12] <Bunjo> IndyGunFreak : but I am trying to install ubuntu 7.10 and it is giving me err8 any idea what is that? the only change to my system is the ATI card, but I had a running ubuntu 7.10 berore
[18:13] <xFlipx> Bunjo: what's the error?
[18:13] <MrSteve> eh, I had a cd-rw.. that died, it wrote a disk, and then would not open it
[18:13] <Bunjo> xFlipx: when the first screen appears I hit enter (or any other key) to get the live mode running, but I get "err8"
[18:14] <CJS3141> If I go to System > Adminstration > Software Sources, in the "third-party category" tab I have some sources listed. These sources are not listed in my /etc/apt/sources.list file; I'm wondering what is the relationship between the two?
[18:14] <MrSteve> then, it opened some disks, but not others
[18:14] <xFlipx> Bunjo: interesting - do you get to the point where you can format the drive?
[18:14] <Serveck> i have this really odd problem with s2disk when hibernating
[18:14] <Bunjo> xFlipx I only get to the first menu where I choose to install run live mode etc.
[18:14] <genii> Troofy: If you're interested in setting up servers I'd recommend visiting #ubuntu-server specifically
[18:14] <Serveck> it goes to a black screen with "s2disk: snapshotting system" and does nothing
[18:15] <xFlipx> Bunjo: so you can't even boot into the live cd?
[18:15] <Serveck> it goes to a black screen with "s2disk: snapshotting system" and does nothing
[18:15] <Bunjo> xFlipx : exactly
[18:15] <MrSteve> how long do you wait Serveck.. enuff time?
[18:15] <jimena> aaa
[18:15] <jimena> erk
[18:15] <xFlipx> Bunjo: and this same system previously had ubuntu installed?
[18:15] <Bunjo> xFlipx: but the funny thing is, that kubuntu 7.4 runs (I want to change it to ubuntu 7.10)
[18:16] <xFlipx> hmm - - sounds like a gnome problem
[18:16] <elventear> Hello. I have setup an Ubuntu server using RAID 1 on the main OS disk. Everything seems to be running fine, but now I want to test if I would be able to boot from one of the disks if the other disk failed and I haven't been able to do that. Is there something else I have to do, besides install grub on the MBR of the second disk?
[18:16] <arnath> is there a "better" way of taking screenshots in ubuntu then print screen?
[18:16] <xFlipx> arnath: that's how you take screenshots in any OS
[18:17] <dek> how do I make the Vim editor remember settings?, such as when I input ":syntax on" i want it to remember it for the next time I start it.
[18:17] <arnath> xFlipx: yes, but the problem is that i can't take a screenshot of an open menu :s
[18:17] <Bunjo> xFlipx: I had ubuntu installed (and upgraded to 7.10) but I got this new graphic card, since then it was not working, so I successfully installed kubuntu 7.4 but I want to go back to ubuntu 7.10 and I can't :)
[18:17] <simplexio> Troofy: i have x2 3800+ 3g ram and too not enough hard drives. my 100Mbit lan is pretty much all time full, machine has 2 users, i run pretty big development  database  and working with it and systems works fine. but that is pretty much bacause i have lots of ram and several hard disk where to share io loads
[18:17] <arnath> xFlipx: the tool in control of the screenshot process just doesn't respond if a menu is open
[18:17] <Troofy> genii ok
[18:17] <MrSteve> I have XP on this hard disk, and I have another 200gb drive to install.. I want Linux on it, and XP to remain as is..  got a URL for info how to do this?
[18:17] <sipior> elventear: you mean you can't boot from the second disk, or you can't boot from either?
[18:17] <xFlipx> Bunjo: easy
[18:17] <xFlipx> Bunjo: install kubuntu
[18:17] <endo> my system has been acting mad buggy lately, expecially the desktop. Have of the time the icons dont even work, now when I booted up my background, and icons dont even show up
[18:17] <xFlipx> Bunjo: then do apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[18:17] <Flannel> !dualboot | MrSteve
[18:17] <ubotu> MrSteve: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[18:17] <fat-head> hello, i am trying to run my games in a seperate x server. not just linux native games but wine games mostly, i am using this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51486. the problem is when i type xauth then list in terminal i get 1 line of output and then instead of the blinker going back to xauth> it stays |  and i cant type exit either ?? anyone knwo what the problem is ?
[18:17] <angelo> sera
[18:18] <xFlipx> arnath: gotcha - not sure on that one
[18:18] <Pici> arnath: gnome-screenshot has a few more options that you can specify.  Check out gnome-screenshot -i and the manpage.
[18:18] <MrSteve> thks Flannel
[18:18] <simplexio> Troofy: so i dont know how much power p4 has, but what i would recoomend if you plan really run several services on it. have lots of ram atleast 2 cores, and share data to several hard drives
[18:18] <arnath> Pici: ah ok thanks
[18:18] <elventear> sipior: I can't boot from the second disk. I remove the first disk. Start and boot and I am not able to boot. Initally I assumed Grub was missing from the the second disk. But by using a Grub boot disk I booted the Kernel and it froze at some point
[18:18] <Flannel> MrSteve: It's really easy. Install Ubuntu on the free space, and install GRUB to the MBR.  If you don't want to overwrite the windows MBR, install GRUB onto the MBR of the second disk, andchange your boot order in the BIOS (GRUB boots windows fine)
[18:18] <xFlipx> Pici has you covered :)
[18:18] <xFlipx> Bunjo: that make sense?
[18:19] <elventear> sipior: With the first disk installed, everything boots fine and RAID seems to be working fine
[18:19] <Bunjo> xFlipx: yes it does, but I am unable to configure my wireless under kubuntu
[18:19] <simplexio> Troofy: like home in one, var in one, / in one and  2-4 swap with same priority
[18:19] <sipior> elventear: probably you forgot to change the name of the root partition grub uses
[18:19] <xFlipx> ohhh
[18:19] <Whitor> Hi. After installing Ubuntu Studio and using it for some time I have a need to go back to the -Generic Kernel. If I chose the generic kernel option in grub, it gives me a flashing cursor in the upper left... though the hard drive looks like its continuing to boot. I'm pretty sure its related to my restricted drivers for my nvidia card... but I don't know how to fix this.  any ideas?
[18:19] <arnath> Pici: ah got it now, i set it to take a screenshot in a few seconds, then opened the window :>
[18:19] <xFlipx> Bunjo: there are no wired controllers?
[18:19] <xFlipx> Bunjo: may have to go wired while you do the desktop upgrade
[18:20] <Troofy> simplexio x2 38000? whats that
[18:20] <Troofy> simplexio ircd website, my personal web, a channel web. 1000 users on ircd. an email server fo rmy domain. 5 pcs having internet service by lan routed from the server
[18:20] <elventear> sipior: Root? When I remove a disk in grub the second disk becomes hd0
[18:20] <Troofy> simplexio 2 cores of ram? what you mean. 2 g ?
[18:20] <Bunjo> xFlipx: OK I guess I would have to move my furniture to get to the dsl router then
[18:20] <CJS3141> Why aren't the "third-party software" sources in the Software Sources program not listed in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[18:21] <xFlipx> Bunjo: sorry - I can't think of any alternative - it's possible that the desktop upgrade will fail
[18:21] <simplexio> Troofy: .,.. 3G ram, 2 cores
[18:21] <Bunjo> xFlipx: Thank you for the help, I shall get back here once I am finished with the upgrade
[18:21] <sipior> elventear: yes, but grub identifies the root partition to the kernel using blkuid. it may not be getting the same id for your second drive. have a look at the kernel arguments grub passes
[18:21] <xFlipx> Bunjo: The system that I have with a x1650 is a 965 chipset so I can't even install /nix on it
[18:21] <Troofy> simplexio you mean dual core?  how much gigz ?
[18:21] <simplexio> Troofy: seems tha i typoed.. i hace x2 3800+ amd
[18:21] <endo> my system has been acting mad buggy lately, expecially the desktop. Have of the time the icons dont even work, now when I booted up my background, and icons dont even show up
[18:22] <Bunjo> xFlipx: Lucky me then
[18:22] <elventear> sipior: The only argument for the kernel is root, you meant that? The arguments is an LVM partition /dev/mapper-system/root
[18:22] <xFlipx> Bunjo: good luck :)
[18:22] <Bunjo> OK I'm out
[18:22] <Troofy> simplexio you mea you have 3.8g dual core?
[18:22] <Whitor> endo, what operating system version?
[18:23] <simplexio> Troofy: amd x2 3800+ is amd dual core processor
[18:23] <endo> Whitor: gutsy
[18:23] <sipior> elventear: what is the exact root= argument that grub passes to the kernel?
[18:23] <logist>  heya, can anyone help me i have searched the web and i m going crazy, i have ubuntu server on a ibm blade center hooked up to the DS3400 storage via optic fiber.. how do i mount a drive from that storage im going crazy here
[18:23] <fat-head> what do i do when i get a box as output when using the terminal instead of xxx@xxx:~$ ??
[18:23] <elventear> sipior: /vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-server root=/dev/mapper/system-root ro quiet splash
[18:23] <endo> Whitor: 7.10
[18:24] <logist> im using 7.10 server edidtion
[18:24] <simplexio> Troofy: biggest problem is desktop use in mixed use is that services can eat all disk io from desktop user, so i have /, /var, /home, /usr /home/myuser on own hard disks
[18:24] <Whitor> endo, yeah... I saw that.. are you using gnome ?
[18:24] <MrSteve> Flannel --- I do not see TWO disk install, all show one disk with TWO operating systems on one disk drive
[18:24] <CVD-PR> Any using 8.04 beta?
[18:24] <endo> Whitor: yes, with kubuntu installed but I dont think that should make a difference
[18:24] <Troofy> simplexio ic
[18:24] <Pici> !hardy | CVD-PR
[18:24] <ubotu> CVD-PR: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[18:25] <logist> anyone?
[18:25] <Whitor> endo, it doesn't make a difference that Kubuntu is installed.
[18:25] <Pici> logist: I suggest asking in #ubuntu-server as well, they should be more familiar with that type of server hardware
[18:26] <killuats> hi all! im running ubuntu7.10, how do i install mysql server 4.1?
[18:26] <MrSteve> Flannel - suppose I take this Drive out, and install Ubuntu to the new drive... then re-insert the old XP drive and put the New Linux drive as 2nd Master??
[18:26] <Whitor> killuats, google that sentence
[18:26] <logist> Pici: trying that, seems no one is home there...
[18:26] <sipior> elventear: hmm...the problem you describe sounds very much like a boot loader that can't find a kernel/root partition. you've verified that the drives are in fact perfectly mirrored?
[18:26] <level09> hi, I want to add ubuntu next to my windows installation,  can I just download and install it  ?
[18:27] <level09> should I check the box next to the "alternate CD" ?
[18:27] <elventear> sipior: As fair as I can, yes, they are perfectly mirrored
[18:27] <killuats> Whitor: there's no mysql 4.1 on the repository.
[18:27] <MrSteve> level09 - can you burn a cd with an ISO?
[18:27] <simplexio> Troofy: and you can allways give better priority your desktop programs
[18:27] <Troofy> simplexio you mea you have 3.8g dual core?
[18:27] <sipior> elventear: then i'm afraid i'm out of ideas, for the moment :-)
[18:27] <endo> Whitor: I've been having so many problems lately, the system is really unstable. My resolution has been acting up as well.
[18:28] <effie_jayx> hey guys what are the most common gpg servers to send my keys to?
[18:28] <Troofy> simplexio ok. how much increasing ram helps in speed?
[18:28] <level09> MrSteve: thanks, so its probably better to install it from a CD
[18:28] <sipior> elventear: could the device mapper not know about your second disk, by any chance?
[18:28] <simplexio> Troofy: far as i remember. my processor is amd x2 3800+, and increasing ram in desktop use helps alot
[18:28] <MrSteve> level09 Live CD can boot... if you have a cd-rom that is set to boot in your bios..
[18:28] <Troofy> simplexio k.
[18:29] <elventear> sipior: I doubt it. Everything is RAID1 in this drive and they are the same
[18:29] <level09> MrSteve: thanks :)  got it
[18:29] <MrSteve> level09 ------ get the ISO download, and Make the CD
[18:29] <Whitor> endo, backup your stuff and start anew.
[18:29] <level09> is there any open source ISO burning apps ?
[18:29] <simplexio> Troofy: offcourse depends how you use it. but i have 3G RAM 87M is free 435M is in caches, 500M of swap is used on 2G is cached
[18:29] <MrSteve> level09 if you cannot burn a bootable CD from the ISO, then get disks mailed to you
[18:29] <Whitor> endo... or pick away at your issues one by one
[18:29] <Troofy> simplexio can a hardare failure occure if any one attacks pc by internet. e.g ddos?
[18:29]  * level09 is downloading the ISO
[18:30] <Chousuke> level09: yes
[18:30] <Troofy> simplexio ic
[18:30] <Troofy> simplexio nice
[18:30] <MrSteve> level09 Be aware of everything before you try to use the CD
[18:30] <level09> MrSteve: THanks , I guess I can burn it :)
[18:30] <Chousuke> level09: on linux, they're all based on cdrecord though.
[18:30] <BrainBug> hello , got a problem, i want to install xubuntu on my old pc, i put in the cd, and it loads, but at the moment it needs to mount my cdrom /dev/cdrom/cdrom0 it says "unable to mount" any suggestions?
[18:30] <funalien> Is thunderbird preinstalled in ubuntu by default?
[18:30] <simplexio> Troofy: i havent got my computer to crash over 100Mbit lan, but i dont know all tricks
[18:30] <endo> Whitor: well, where should I start with the desktop issue, my icons are gone and my background doesn't even show up. it's progressivly gotten worse to this
[18:30] <Chousuke> which is not a bad thing :)
[18:30] <level09> Chousuke: thanks
[18:30] <MrSteve> level09 I am trying to figure how I want to install a DUAL boot
[18:30] <sipior> elventear: i'm afraid i don't understand the details of how that mapping is made at boot.
[18:30] <Troofy> simplexio thanks. so you too prefer a one pc doing all?
[18:31] <level09> MrSteve: I
[18:31] <MrSteve> level09 -- good planning.. considerations..
[18:31] <level09> oops
[18:31] <identityx> Ok, a bit of a strange question, and more Windows than Ubuntu, but why would booting into Ubuntu 8.04 (latest beta) on my primary NTFS via Wubi, and running "sudo ifconfig eth1 mtu 1400" cause Windows to forget or corrupt the drivers of my wireless adapter (eth1) on the next boot?
[18:31] <level09> I'm downloading a 64 bit ubuntu
[18:31] <simplexio> Troofy: just install ubuntu-desktop, compile .24.4 kernel by hand, and you are ready
[18:31] <Chousuke> level09: both Gnome and KDE come with CD authoring tools
[18:31] <Serveck> dont, theres alot of incompatibility issues with 64 bit
[18:31] <Serveck> i learned that the hard way
[18:31] <MrSteve> level09 -- gnome will get it done for you..
[18:32] <Troofy> simplexio why compile kernel.
[18:32] <level09> thanks, then I'll cancel my 64 bit download
[18:32] <funalien> Is thunderbird preinstalled in ubuntu by default?
[18:32] <rwycuff> identityx:because thats what windows does best is corrupt drivers
[18:32] <MrSteve> level09 ---- thing is, you should have Windows CD and rescue disk at hand.. and know about how tha repair and re-install might work
[18:32] <logist>  heya, can anyone help me i have searched the web and i m going crazy, i have ubuntu server on a ibm blade center hooked up to the DS3400 storage via optic fiber.. how do i mount a drive from that storage im going crazy here. using ubuntu server 7.10 x64
[18:33] <sundance_bob> Could anyone help me play .mpg files on Totem in Xubuntu? Thanks
[18:33] <simplexio> Troofy: i wouldnt prefer one pc, but if you make it right it works. and .24 beacause it gives better desktop experince with my work loads, so it should give much better experience for you
[18:33] <identityx> Any less vague ideas?
[18:33] <level09> MrSteve: is it possible that my windows will be corrupt ?
[18:33] <MrSteve> level09 well.. You may change the MBR, and need to.. fix the MBR
[18:33] <identityx> Question again:  why would booting into Ubuntu 8.04 (latest beta) on my primary NTFS via Wubi, and running "sudo ifconfig eth1 mtu 1400" cause Windows to forget or corrupt the drivers of my wireless adapter (eth1) on the next boot?
[18:33] <simplexio> Troofy: for me changing .22 to (.23 and .24) was big improvement
[18:33] <redwhitewaldo> how can i get the typing-break sub-program in "keyboard settings" to work in xubuntu?
[18:33] <Troofy> simplexio really. speed wise?
[18:34] <sipior> elventear: is your motherboard bios configured to boot from both drives?
[18:34] <BrainBug> anyone? cd xubuntu boots, but when the steps says "mounting cdrom drive" it s unable to mount...
[18:34] <simplexio> Troofy: latency on desktop
[18:34] <Troofy> simplexio i think you are on the latest kernel?
[18:34] <MrSteve> level09 How-to-Forge... info from this room
[18:34] <Troofy> simplexio ok. ubuntu dont give the latest i gues? currely
[18:34] <sundance_bob> Could anyone help me play .mpg files on Totem in Xubuntu? Thanks
[18:34] <simplexio> Troofy: ye. now latest stable .24.4
[18:34] <simplexio> Troofy: not with apt-get
[18:35] <level09> i'm reading some articles about dual boot ubuntu
[18:35] <simplexio> Troofy: 8.04 has .23 i think
[18:35] <Serveck> dual boot ubuntu is not that hard
[18:35] <Pici> simplexio: .24
[18:35] <erstazi> hello, I have followed the instructions Creative Labs OV51x at http://www.rastageeks.org/ov51x-jpeg/index.php/Main_Page but I only get: this output when running video: http://pastebin.ca/971327
[18:35] <Troofy> simplexio k. i hope. i wont get mussed up with too much load. even if i buoght a 2g dualcore
[18:35] <Serveck> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[18:36] <level09> looks like its an easy thing to do : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe/Prototype according to this
[18:36] <simplexio> Troofy: i dont think so. but best solution is use p4 as server and get dualcore for desktop
[18:36] <pcorley> yo
[18:36] <Troofy> simplexio i cant affoard that much.
[18:37] <erstazi> I cannot get past the v4l: open /dev/video0: No such file or directory or what else is in the pastebin
[18:37] <simplexio> Troofy: but second best is get dualcore to handle both roles, third is get some more ram to that p4 and try, worst is just that
[18:37] <ChrisULM> simple question, if i had a previous install of ubuntu on my hardrive and would like to overwrite this with a new install of ubuntu. If I formated the drive and then proceeded to install the new version of ubuntu, would that replace the old mbr?
[18:37] <Troofy> simplexio i think then my best bet is to have one powerful pc.
[18:37] <MrSteve> level09 -- I was told to use Unetbootin
[18:37] <Troofy> simplexio where does the option stands that i keep p4 and buy a p3 1g for server?
[18:38] <erstazi> ChrisULM: if you completely rewrite the harddrive, yes, if you add a partition, no
[18:38] <killuats> hi all! im running ubuntu7.10, how do i install mysql server 4.1, i already enabled 'universe' repository and 'backports' but i still can't find mysql server 4
[18:38] <ChrisULM> thank you
[18:38] <Cyborg> hi
[18:38] <ChrisULM> erstazi, thank you
[18:38] <Cyborg> i have some problems with my sudo command
[18:38] <Cyborg> i can't login as root
[18:38] <Cyborg> why ?
[18:38] <Pici> Cyborg: What issue with sudo?
[18:39] <Cyborg> sudo su
[18:39] <IndyGunFreak> Cyborg: you don't exactly *login* w/ sudo
[18:39] <simplexio> Troofy: i have xp 2000+ on my "server" and is transparent bridge too, i do traffic shaping 100Mbit Lan in both sides, just giving ssh and www 10% allways, and i dont see any loads
[18:39] <sipior> Cyborg: you want sudo -i, i think
[18:39] <Pici> !sudo | Cyborg
[18:39] <ubotu> Cyborg: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[18:39] <Cyborg> i can't login in the consolle and i can't login
[18:39] <IndyGunFreak> Cyborg: you don't use sudo su
[18:39] <Cyborg> sudo don't work
[18:39] <IndyGunFreak> sudo works fine, its the guy pounding the keys
[18:39] <Cyborg> i can't login as root !
[18:39] <Cyborg> that's the problem
[18:39] <Troofy> simplexio 2000+ ?
[18:40] <Cyborg> hey
[18:40] <Cyborg> somebody to help me ?
[18:40] <Cyborg> i give command su <> and nothing happens
[18:40] <sipior> Cyborg: not been paying attention?
[18:40] <simplexio> Troofy: but it dosen't have that much traffic, just bridgw and 18 user (i am 16 those)
[18:40] <killuats> hi all! im running ubuntu7.10, how do i install mysql server 4.1, i already enabled 'universe' repository and 'backports' but i still can't find mysql server 4
[18:40] <sipior> Cyborg: try scrolling up
[18:40] <simplexio> Troofy: old amd xp2000+, its model name
[18:40] <Cyborg> i did
[18:40] <erstazi> killuats: one second
[18:40] <killuats> somebody help.
[18:40] <Cyborg> nothing happens
[18:40] <Pici> Cyborg: su will not work, you need to use sudo.  Read the message from ubotu.
[18:40] <Troofy> simplexio whats the pc specs?
[18:40] <Cyborg> !
[18:40] <Pici> !enter | Cyborg
[18:40] <Cyborg> i read !
[18:41] <ubotu> Cyborg: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[18:41] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[18:41] <erstazi> killuats: sudo aptitude install mysql-server-4.1
[18:41] <Cyborg> i don't use enter as punctuation
[18:41] <Cyborg> so can u help me to solve my problem ?
[18:41] <killuats> erstazi: thanks. i'll try that.
[18:41] <Cyborg> su function don't work
[18:41] <Cyborg> that's my problem
[18:41] <sipior> Cyborg: what happens if you try "sudo ls /tmp" from your normal account?
[18:41] <simplexio> Troofy: that old forgotten bridge? amd xp 2000+, 750M RAM, and few old and allmoust broken hd's
[18:41] <Cyborg> nothing
[18:41] <Cyborg> as i said
[18:42] <Pici> Cyborg: you don't get a password prompt?
[18:42] <sipior> Cyborg: you're not prompted for a password?
[18:42] <Troofy> simplexio how much proccesor in ghz?
[18:42] <Cyborg> no !
[18:42] <IndyGunFreak> oops, restarted X on the wrong PC
[18:42] <Cyborg> nothing happens
[18:42] <Pici> Cyborg: Are you using sudo or su?
[18:42] <Cyborg> both
[18:42] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[18:42] <Cyborg> nothing happens
[18:42] <simplexio> Troofy: cant remember, and that machine dosent offer any files
[18:42] <Cyborg> sudo or su...nothing happens
[18:42] <killuats> erstazi: i got this message: No candidate version found for mysql-server-4.1
[18:42] <erstazi> killuats: hmm, let me think
[18:42] <Pici> Cyborg: Do you go back to the command prompt?
[18:42] <Cyborg> what ?
[18:43] <Troofy> simplexio i mean whats gigahrz is processor pwer?
[18:43] <Cyborg> man it is simple i can't login as root
[18:43] <Pici> Cyborg: Does it send you back to the shell? or does it just sit there, like you hadn;t even pressed enter?
[18:43] <Cyborg> and i can't type sudo commands
[18:43] <Pici> !root | Cyborg
[18:43] <ubotu> Cyborg: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[18:43] <simplexio> Troofy: just my ssh, irssi, gentoo linux test platform, useless packet shaping (100->100 is pretty much useless to shape) and transparent bridge to my desktop
[18:43] <Cyborg> no !!!
[18:43] <Pici> Cyborg: Please actually read that message.
[18:43] <Cyborg> it is my system
[18:43] <Cyborg> k ?
[18:43] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[18:43]  * IndyGunFreak chuckles
[18:43] <Cyborg> i can't login or apt-get install pack
[18:43] <Andycass1> How to change permissions on a folder and its subfolders?
[18:43] <erstazi> killuats: whats wrong with 5.0?
[18:43] <Cyborg> nothing happened
[18:43] <Troofy> simplexio ok. thanks again. greathelp dude!
[18:44] <Pici> Cyborg: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[18:44] <Cyborg> paste me the command
[18:44] <Cyborg> lbs_licence -a ?
[18:44] <sipior> Cyborg: did this happen recently?
[18:44] <Pici> Cyborg: lsb_release -a
[18:44] <Cyborg> yes
[18:44] <simplexio> Troofy: actually it's 2800+ and it runs 2Ghz
[18:44] <Cyborg> last night
[18:44] <sipior> Cyborg: what were you doing immediately prior to the problem?
[18:44] <Cyborg> Description:    Ubuntu 6.06.2 LTS
[18:44] <killuats> erstazi: we're using mysql4.1 on our hosting i need to duplicate our database on my local machine.
[18:44] <Troofy> oh
[18:44] <Troofy> k
[18:44] <erstazi> killuats: I suggest using at least 5.0, lots of improvements... but if you are sure you want it... you can use http://packages.ubuntu.com/mysql-server-4.1
[18:44] <Cyborg> hmmm
[18:44] <Cyborg> what i did before this happens ?
[18:45] <sipior> Cyborg: right
[18:45] <simplexio> Troofy: but it dosent have any of those services which usually make load
[18:45] <Andycass1> How to change permissions on a folder and its subfolders?
[18:45] <erstazi> killuats: I suggest using an older distro like dapper
[18:45] <sipior> Andycass1: chmod -R
[18:45] <erstazi> killuats: also, you could always compile it (:
[18:45] <Troofy> k
[18:45] <Troofy> simplexio ok.
[18:46] <Whitor> endo, try deleting your .gnome folders in your home directory... force it to recreate them
[18:46] <Cyborg> sipior: what is your native language ?
[18:46] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[18:46] <killuats> erstazi: thanks, i'll just try to compile it.
[18:46] <sipior> Cyborg: english, i'm told
[18:46] <erstazi> hello, I have followed the instructions Creative Labs OV51x at http://www.rastageeks.org/ov51x-jpeg/index.php/Main_Page but I only get: this output when running video: http://pastebin.ca/971327
[18:46] <Cyborg> k
[18:46] <simplexio> Troofy: actually if you could get some old and useless xp 2000+ or similiar it could handle that packet shaping, irc etc. easily
[18:46] <erstazi> I cannot get past the v4l: open /dev/video0: No such file or directory or what else is in the pastebin
[18:46] <Cyborg> wait i will write u correctley what i have done before this problem k ?
[18:46] <sipior> Cyborg: sure, that's fine
[18:47] <Cyborg> addgroup ftpuser useradd test
[18:47] <Cyborg> usermod -G ftpuser test
[18:47] <erstazi> what would be the softlink for /dev/video* ?
[18:48] <Cyborg> what can i do sipior ?
[18:48] <endo> Whitor: that will actually work?
[18:48] <sipior> Cyborg: hey, could you paste the output of the command "groups"?
[18:48] <Cyborg> i think not
[18:48] <Cyborg> because i can't login as root
[18:48] <Cyborg> and it was last night
[18:49] <sipior> Cyborg: no, just with your normal account
[18:49] <Cyborg> ok i will try
[18:49] <IndyGunFreak> i'm guessing he hosed his group list by messing w/ sudo, su, etc.
[18:49] <philsf> hello
[18:49] <Cyborg> santo -> santo ftpuser
[18:49] <Cyborg> test -> test
[18:49] <sipior> Cyborg: i'm thinking you may no longer be in the admin group...
[18:49]  * IndyGunFreak agrees
[18:49] <Cyborg> how can i be again ?
[18:50] <sipior> your normal account is santo?
[18:50] <deniz__> downloading a torrent that has 1079 parts of 2 mb means that each 2 mb i download, if the download is interrupted those remain, right?
[18:50] <Cyborg> yes
[18:50] <Cyborg> is admin
[18:50]  * sipior reflects on the perils of sudo...
[18:50] <Cyborg> me = santo :)
[18:50] <Cyborg> santo is the admin user
[18:50] <simplexio> Cyborg: groups tell which groups you are in
[18:50] <IndyGunFreak> sipior: lol, i'm guessig he did it while bonking around w/ sudo su
[18:50] <Cyborg> with all rights
[18:50] <sipior> this is a bit tricky...
[18:51] <Cyborg> but the main user was santo, and santo is still in santo group
[18:51] <Pici> Cyborg: login as santo and run groups
[18:51] <sipior> Pici: already done...
[18:51] <Troofy> simplexio ok.. thanks!  great help.
[18:51] <Troofy> simplexio :)
[18:51] <killuats> is it ok to use debian repository on ubuntu?
[18:51] <Cyborg> sipior: what can i do man to be again admin ?
[18:51] <simplexio> that's reason why i allways define root password first :)
[18:51] <Cyborg> with all rights
[18:51] <Cyborg> ?
[18:51]  * IndyGunFreak is installing Hardy, be back in a minute
[18:52] <sipior> Cyborg: you'll need to get added back to the admin group, else you won't be able to run sudo. do you have an ubuntu live CD to boot from?
[18:52] <Pici> !noroot
[18:52] <ubotu> We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-)
[18:52] <deniz__> how do i make pidgin still give me alerts even wen i run powerpoint stuff and/or have a full screen app like a game running
[18:52] <simplexio> if i **** users rights or sudoers file, i can allwasy login as root
[18:52] <Cyborg> sure
[18:52] <kindofabuzz> Pici will be here 24/7 to help with your root problems =)
[18:52] <sipior> Pici: that is completely unhelpful at the moment
[18:52] <Cyborg> i do
[18:52] <phs5556> new to ubuntu i have a new system running ubuntu and i want to be able to move files to /from and print my older xp system. i have a router conected to the internet and both systems can use the internet
[18:52] <kane77> killuats, no.. it's not
[18:52] <Cyborg> what can i do with boot cd man ?
[18:53] <killuats> kane77: thanks.
[18:53] <IndyGunFreak> lol, reinstall?
[18:53] <simplexio> offcourse is good idea to not aloow root logins from ssh
[18:53] <sipior> Cyborg: you'll need to boot off this disc, and modify /etc/groups
[18:53] <Flannel> simplexio: That's what the recovery console is for
[18:53] <Cyborg> how ?
[18:54] <IndyGunFreak> yuppo
[18:54] <Cyborg> what should i modify?
[18:54] <kane77> just out of curiosity what is an example of root problems?
[18:54] <IndyGunFreak> i can't tear myself away from this conversation
[18:54] <redwhitewaldo> for ubuntu isos (and future ones), do we need 650 mb discs or 700mb?
[18:54] <Cahan> phs5556, there is a good samba tutorial on the ubuntu website
[18:54] <Cyborg> sipior:
[18:54] <SammIndustrie> can anybody help me with VIA sound?
[18:54] <IndyGunFreak> kane77: well, i have a sewer line, constantly gets infested w/ roots and has to be snaked out
[18:54] <babo> i need to set a cronjob to call cron.php everyday. What's the other tool besides wget that i can use ?
[18:54] <sipior> Cyborg: it is a bit awkward for me to describe remotely. you'll have to modify the file /etc/groups on your machine's hard disk, and add your account name to the "admin" group
[18:54] <phs5556> thanks cahan
[18:55] <Cyborg> why it's happens ?
[18:55] <Flannel> MrSteve: You shouldn't take the other drive out.  Just install Ubuntu on the second drive, and then deal with the MBR however you want.  Keep XP in the system while installing, and GRUB will pick it up and add it to the boot menu automagically.  Linux doesn't care where it's installed (primary/master/whatever)
[18:55] <kane77> IndyGunFreak, ehm?
[18:55] <Cyborg> why it's happens ?
[18:55] <sipior> Cyborg: does it matter? you got removed from the admin group, and sudo checks that you are a member of that group before allowing you to use it (according to the default ubuntu sudoers file)
[18:55] <boris> how do i change or disable bios password ? ive got phoenix awardbios and i want to disable the integrated sound carsd
[18:55] <IndyGunFreak> kane77: you asked about a root problem, i gave you one.. :)
[18:55] <boris> card*
[18:55] <babo> wget and ??
[18:55] <Cyborg> why i can't login anymore as root ?
[18:56] <Pici> Cyborg: Because santo is no longer in the admin group, what sipior just said.
[18:56] <philsf> when does ahrdy final gets released?
[18:56] <Cyborg> and how ?
[18:56] <Cyborg> how is it possible ?
[18:56] <SammIndustrie> *coughs* Alsa-mixer and the standard sound wotsit won't display anything for headphones, and sod all happens when I unplug headphones, except the speaker going off
[18:56] <kane77> philsf, end of april
[18:56] <Cyborg> nobody modify santo because santo is the admin
[18:56] <Cyborg> me = santo
[18:56] <babo> guys, what can i use instead of wget to call cron.php ?
[18:56] <Cyborg> i don't remove by myself
[18:56] <erstazi> babo: php cron.php
[18:57] <sipior> Cyborg: now, boot from the cd, mount the root partition of your hard drive, and then edit the file /etc/group so that the line reads admin:x:116:santo
[18:57] <kane77> babo, curl
[18:57] <sipior> Cyborg: 116 is just an example number, on your machine it may be different. umount the root partition, reboot, and you should be good to go
[18:57] <Anon7688> holaz
[18:57] <Anon7688> gnte
[18:58] <babo> kane77, thank you !
[18:58] <Cyborg> 10x sipior
[18:58] <SammIndustrie> anybody?
[18:58] <Anon7688> english???
[18:58] <Cyborg> but whow to evite this problem ?
[18:58] <Cyborg> hwo ?
[18:58] <Cyborg> how*
[18:58] <Cyborg> ?
[18:58] <Anon7688> problem
[18:58] <phs5556> where can i find the samba tutorial?
[18:58] <IndyGunFreak> just ask Anon7688
[18:58]  * SammIndustrie waves about
[18:58] <bazhang> philsf: April 24th; discussion in #ubuntu+1
[18:58] <IndyGunFreak> !samba | phaedru2
[18:58] <ubotu> phaedru2: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[18:59] <Cyborg> sipior: how i can evitate this problem ?
[18:59] <Cahan> phs5556, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[18:59] <Cyborg> even adept_updater don't work
[18:59] <Cyborg> :(
[18:59] <simplexio> Cyborg: or when grub starts, select option and press 'e' and edit commandline to include "single"
[18:59] <phs5556> thanks
[18:59] <philsf> bazhang: thanks
[19:00] <Cyborg> simplexio: and then ?
[19:00] <sipior> Cyborg: sorry, i can't explain it any better than that.
[19:00] <simplexio> Cyborg: boot, and edit /etc/group
[19:00] <tlsarles> Is anyone else noticing that firefox crashes a lot on the Hardy beta?
[19:00] <Cyborg> sipior: is nothing to explain just tell me how it happens shits like this
[19:00] <sipior> simplexio: thanks you, i had forgotten about that
[19:00] <bazhang> language Cyborg
[19:00] <Pici> tlsarles: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[19:00] <Flannel> Cyborg, simplexio, you don't need to edit anything to get into single user mode, just select the "recovery console" options at GRUB
[19:01] <tlsarles> Aight
[19:01] <Cyborg> :)
[19:01] <simplexio> Cyborg: http://www.systura.com/linux/singlegrub.php
[19:01] <newTruth_UK> Hi all I'm getting really slow boot time ubuntu is hanging on : Binding to YP server... for a good 5 minutes before hanging. Any suggestions?
[19:01] <Cyborg> k
[19:01] <simplexio> sipior: yeah. i allways forget it too, then i spend 30min to find boot cdrom and then google how its done
[19:02] <cirkit> Anyone familiar with phpsysinfo? http://phpsysinfo.sourceforge.net/
[19:02] <sipior> newTruth_UK: yes, your system is trying to get nis information from a host it can't find
[19:02] <IzMbit> hi there , new in ubuntu and generally in linux user. can someone help me to fix my resolution ? i cant find any xorg.conf that works :( i still got  640*480 and cant work:S
[19:02] <QuickGold> if a file is in /etc/cron.daily, what time each day do the scripts in there run?
[19:02] <endo> Whitor: I didn't even do anything, now it randomly all appeared
[19:02] <bazhang> IzMbit: which card and what driver and how isntalled please
[19:02] <IOFJ> ive got ubuntu server 7.10 running, is there any way to put a desktop on it?
[19:02] <Flannel> IOFJ: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[19:02] <Homee_dc2> can anyone recommend a methodology or way to patch systems in a dmz if you only have ssh access to them?
[19:02] <cirkit> I've got phpsysinfo installed and uploaded to my apache's public html directory .. but when I check my site, the information is empty so it is not able to get the information from /proc ... any ideas why this may be happening?
[19:03] <bazhang> IOFJ: install ubuntu-desktop
[19:03] <newTruth_UK> thanks sipior do you know if I can disable this ?
[19:03] <sipior> newTruth_UK: it eventually times out, but you can rename the file /etc/rc2.d/S18nis to /etc/rc2.d/K18nis and that should sort it for you
[19:03] <IzMbit> bazhang i got nvidia 6800 Gt 256ram and a 19" viewsonic e92f+ screen
[19:03] <QuickGold> if a file is in /etc/cron.daily, what time each day do the scripts in there run?
[19:03] <bazhang> IzMbit: and how did you install the drivers
[19:03] <endo> Whitor: I've narroed the problem down to Nautilus, should I just reinstall it, see if that fixes things
[19:03] <newTruth_UK> sipior : Super thanks I'm trying it straight away
[19:03] <IzMbit> i made the updates and install the drivers that found in restricted  drivers manager
[19:04] <bazhang> IzMbit: are you using the nv or the nvidia drivers now
[19:04] <IzMbit> not sure :S as i told i am a new user :( . how can i see?
[19:05] <IOFJ> [19:03:05] <bazhang> IOFJ: install ubuntu-desktop <-- is that another os or just like a desktop addon?
[19:05] <hosified> quit
[19:05] <sipior> QuickGold: depends on what is in /etc/crontab. look for "run-daily"
[19:05] <bazhang> IOFJ: that is a metapackage that will pull in all the stuff you need to have a desktop system
[19:05] <Pici> IOFJ: Its a metapackage containing all the stuff that comes on the regular ubuntu install.
[19:05] <Armedking> Heya guys, Any clue about how to get Flash working in 7.10 amd64
[19:06] <sipior> QuickGold: sorry "run-parts /etc/cron.daily"
[19:06] <IOFJ> it will still be ubuntu server right, it will just have a desktop too?
[19:06] <bazhang> IzMbit: how about cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf what does that say about the driver
[19:06] <olopez> hello
[19:06] <Flannel> QuickGold: cat /etc/crontab will tell you
[19:06] <SpudDogg> olopez:  hello
[19:07] <olopez> anyone is using VPNC connecting to Cisco PIX?
[19:07] <bazhang> IzMbit: dont paste here just look and tell nv or nividia
[19:07] <SpudDogg> Armedking:  you should get an install message in firefox when you go to a site like youtube.
[19:07] <QuickGold> if the time is set to: 25 6    * * *
[19:07] <QuickGold> what time is that
[19:07] <Armedking> SpudDogg, Nope nothing like that
[19:07] <IOFJ> if i install ubuntu-desktop it will still be ubuntu server but have a desktop too right?
[19:07] <sipior> QuickGold: 6.25h
[19:07] <QuickGold> oh, 6:25am?
[19:07] <SpudDogg> Armedking:  are you using firefox?
[19:07] <IzMbit> it says nvidia
[19:07] <Armedking> SpudDogg, yes
[19:07] <bazhang> IOFJ: sure
[19:07] <QuickGold> thank you all
[19:08] <IzMbit> this xorg.conf is what i copied from a thread in the ubuntu forum that a guy with the same screen make it work . but it doesnt work on me
[19:08] <MrSteve> yes.. thanks all.. thks Flannel -- unetbootin after I get the new drive partitioned
[19:08] <bazhang> IzMbit: could you copy and paste that to pastebin please?
[19:08] <bazhang> !paste | IzMbit
[19:08] <ubotu> IzMbit: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[19:09] <SpudDogg> Armedking:  i used to run amd64 on this computer, and just going to youtube then clicking to show a video worked fine for me.  other than that, you'll have to google around.  i forget what the name of the package to install to get 32-bit flash player working on 64-bit browser
[19:10] <hosified> the paste thing is pretty smart, nice...
[19:10] <IzMbit> i pasted it here : http://pastebin.ca/971366
[19:10] <bazhang> IzMbit: ah I see; then how about sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose the defaults that you dont know
[19:10] <erUSUL> Armedking: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[19:10] <Slade^^> I instaled kiba-dock and why it isnt has akamaru???
[19:10] <IzMbit> ok i try it and give you the results in a min
[19:11] <pingu> anyone know how to install thunderbird
[19:11] <Serveck> is it just me, or can only one program use my sound card at a time?
[19:11] <Armedking> erUSUL SpudDogg i found a workaround when running nspluginwrapper -v -a -i after flash non free it works strange but well it works now ;-) thanks
[19:11] <bazhang> IzMbit: I can see how that would not work; some problems with the xorg.conf
[19:11] <IzMbit> what x server drivers should i choose ?nvidia or nv?
[19:11] <Serveck> is it just me, or can only one program use my sound card at a time?
[19:11] <mitchell> anywaone can tell me what can I use instead of WINE
[19:11] <mitchell> >
[19:11] <mitchell> ?
[19:11] <offload> hey guys.  I want to set up a single machine in my business's break room as an internet kiosk.  Is there anything you guys reccomend that uses gnome but will lock the machine down tight enough for public access without changing desktop pictures and icons and what not?  Also the ability to have an opendns / netnanny sort of thign would be awesome too
[19:12] <SpudDogg> Armedking:  that was the name of the package...thanks for that
[19:12] <Serveck> cedega, but it costs money
[19:12] <bazhang> IzMbit: nvidia
[19:12] <Pici> pingu: I suspect its in the repositories, have you searched for it?
[19:12] <rav> Hey guys. I have a Nvidia geforce 8400GS that came with my new HP a6460t, and my problem is that ubuntu thinks i have a generic VGA. And i even tried ENVY and ENVY gave me an error saying that it could not find a driver compatible with my hardware.
[19:12] <pingu> mitchell: prolly nothing you could just partition your disk and put windows on another partitoin
[19:12] <Slade^^> I instaled kiba-dock and why it isnt has akamaru??? guys??
[19:12] <bazhang> mitchell: depends on you; you could go for a vm with windows--not if you want to play games though
[19:12] <mitchell> pingu; wdf?
[19:12] <pingu> pici: yea sudo apt-get install thunderbird right?
[19:13] <pbne04> which package do I need for 'route'?
[19:13] <compengi> i forgot how to open a gui application through sudo, what's the sudo proper command
[19:13] <Pici> pingu: yes.
[19:13] <Pici> compengi: gksudo
[19:13] <mitchell> bazhang; something instead of wine only for programs! I already use vmware
[19:13] <KalEl> hi i want a linux game of space fighting
[19:13] <bazhang> mitchell: no 3d stuff needed?
[19:13] <IzMbit> amount of memory to be used by the video card? i give 256Mb ? as my cart is? (sorry if my question sounds a bit stupid :S )
[19:13] <rav> bazhang: was up man, i got that internet to work by blacklisting the incorrect driver
[19:13] <mitchell> bazhang; no
[19:14] <mitchell> bazhang; sample stuff
[19:14] <bazhang> mitchell: vmware-server would be fine then if you have a xp disk
[19:14] <alecwh> How do I check what m video card is?
[19:14] <pingu> pici: ok i just tried it again must have been having problems with my connection, how can i delete the evolution program
[19:14] <alecwh> my*
[19:14] <mitchell> bazhang; I already have vmware with a xp on it but it slows down my pc
[19:15] <mitchell> bazhang; I need something instead of that buggy WINE
[19:15] <bazhang> alecwh: try lspci in terminal
[19:15] <pingu> bazhang: what is vmware jw?
[19:15] <rav> mitchell: what are the specs on your PC
[19:15] <mitchell> bazhang; I know about a prog called crossfire or something
[19:15] <mitchell> ?
[19:15] <alecwh> bazhang: I don't think I see it
[19:15] <mitchell> bazhang; is that right
[19:16] <bazhang> pingu: vmware-server lets you run virtual machines of other systems including linux and windows etc
[19:16] <alecwh> bazhang: would this be it: 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)?
[19:16] <pingu> bazhang: so kinda like wine
[19:16] <Serveck> is it just me, or can only one program use my sound card at a time?
[19:16] <bazhang> mitchell: crossover office I believe you mean
[19:16] <mitchell> rav; my pc is fine i just dont wanna start vmware everytime for just running a programm
[19:16] <olopez> bazhang: qemu si better solucion than vmware it is free
[19:16] <bazhang> pingu: not really as no 3d stuff atm
[19:16] <pingu> pici: it worked thanks
[19:16] <mitchell> bazhang; yes thats it
[19:17] <mitchell> thks mate
[19:17] <pingu> bazhang: what 3d stuff are you talking about
[19:17] <bazhang> alecwh: aye
[19:17] <rav> My ubuntu does not recognize what kind of nvidia card i have, NEITHER does ENVY, what other way could i install it? http://pastebin.ca/971374
[19:17] <pingu> anyone know how to delete a program i dont want
[19:17] <mitchell> bazhang; were can i get it from because it seems proprietary noooo?
[19:17] <alecwh> bazhang: thanks!
[19:17] <bazhang> pingu sudo apt-get remove packagename
[19:17] <bazhang> alecwh: no worries ;]
[19:17] <pingu> bazhang: thanks
[19:18] <IzMbit> i suppose to khow my screens sync ranges but i dont:S should i use default or search in the net to find  horizontal etc sync ranges?
[19:18] <olopez> mitchell: try with kvm and qemu it's a free solution
[19:18] <alecwh> I have a video card blacklisted on the compiz-fusion website (http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Hardware/Blacklist), so Ubuntu won't let me use desktop effects. Does Ubuntu 8.04 fix it?
[19:18] <nachete> hi
[19:18] <bazhang> mitchell: I believe there is a trial version of 30 days in the repos
[19:18] <SpudDogg> nachete:  hi
[19:18] <alecwh> I have an intel 965 video card
[19:18] <mitchell> bazhang; but i dont wanna the trial:/
[19:19] <Smygis> this is retarted. I Upgraded my gfx card from a geforce3 to a ATI RAGE LT PRO. And look! hardware accelerated grafix!!!! but only in 800x600.... And thats realy neat on a 1680x1050 screen :'(
[19:19] <pingu> can anyone give me a brief explanation of what ndiswrapper is and how it should work
[19:19] <bazhang> alecwh: you can use desktop effects; I have a lesser intel card and works just not so fast
[19:19] <mitchell> olopez: are kvm and qemu stable?
[19:19] <IndyGunFreak> !ndiswrapper | pingu
[19:19] <ubotu> pingu: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[19:19] <SpudDogg> pingu:  my understanding of it is that you can use a windows driver in linux
[19:19] <nachete> I have an Usb wireless network card, WUSB54GP, and I want to make it work on my Ubuntu 7.10, any ideas?
[19:19] <olopez> mitchell: vmware server also is free (you don't pay it) but not free as freedom ;)
[19:19] <pingu> IndyGunFreak: thanks
[19:19] <IndyGunFreak> np
[19:19] <alecwh> bazhang: Ubuntu simply won't let me. My card is blacklisted, so when I enable desktop effects, it stops me "Desktop effects could not be enabled."
[19:19] <bucketfan99> hey are there any good picture organizers for linux ? sorta like iPhoto but .. not mac
[19:20] <bazhang> IzMbit: just finish that and restart then pastebin the new xorg.conf and we can help you write a new one
[19:20] <SpudDogg> nachete:  that is a ralink chipset (i believe) and it should "just work"
[19:20] <olopez> mitchell: yes is stable  / usable
[19:20] <mitchell> oopez: i dont want to run a whole OS for just a programm
[19:20] <rav> Anyone got any tips on how to install a Nvidia card 8400GS 256mg? Ubuntu thinks its a generic driver
[19:20] <mitchell> olopez; can you give me a link for it?
[19:20] <CapnMizrbl> Hello people
[19:20] <pingu> IndyGunFreak: do you know the web site for a walk through i was on one last night but can't remember the address
[19:20] <SpudDogg> nachete:  is it a usb dongle or the type with the wire and a little blue box?
[19:21] <SpudDogg> CapnMizrbl:  hello
[19:21] <IndyGunFreak> pingu: not really, sorry
[19:21] <olopez> mitchell: is you want run just a program you can use wine it probably can help you
[19:21] <CapnMizrbl> hey spud
[19:21] <bazhang> mitchell: what program maybe there is a linux equivalent
[19:21] <nachete> just a secod, SpudDogg
[19:22] <pingu> IndyGunFreak: nvm i found it in my history, thought about it right after i sent my last
[19:22] <mitchell> olopez: wine is f*** buggy
[19:22] <CapnMizrbl> spud, do you use java/icedtea on ubuntu 7.1064?
[19:22] <IzMbit> done. should i restart now to see if works?
[19:22] <nachete> it is a dongle part, SpudDogg
[19:22] <bazhang> alecwh: okay, but I got it working; who you going to believe--some applet or me? ;]
[19:22] <bazhang> IzMbit: aye
[19:22] <SpudDogg> CapnMizrbl:  currently, no.  i did have java running on this computer when i did have a 64-bit OS on it
[19:22] <nachete> I am Spanish, and didn't know that word yet :')
[19:22] <olopez> yes mitchell is really buggy ... but you can run a lot of windows programs with out use a whole O.S
[19:22] <IzMbit> oki. see u in 2mins :)
[19:23] <SpudDogg> nachete:  does your computer recognize your USB ports as USB2.0?
[19:23] <olopez> mitchell: you can add more dlls o register it to get more compatibility
[19:23] <rav> Anyone at all? How can i get ubuntu 7.10 to use recognize my Geforce 256mb 8400GS and use the correct driver for it?
[19:23] <bazhang> nachete: dongle is a usb external device you plug in the side of the computer
[19:23] <alecwh> bazhang: ha alright. I know you can skip the checks (so I can get it enabled), but I've tried it, and when I attempt to play videos on Totem, it doesn't work. It just closes the program. =P
[19:23] <AngryElf> is itpossible to change the keybindings in gnome-terminal?
[19:23] <bazhang> alecwh: that is a seperate issue; one at a time ;]
[19:24] <nachete> I think so, SpudDogg, I am going to check it to be sure...  back in a minute
[19:25] <Serveck> is it just me, or can only one program use my sound card at a time?
[19:25] <CapnMizrbl> I havnt been able to get icedtea plugin to function.
[19:25] <olopez> mitchell i think wine is the only "program" that can run windows executables on unix platforms , without VM
[19:25] <SpudDogg> nachete:  either way, just run 'apt-cache search ralink' then install the driver for the card you have.  'sudo apt-get install <package_name_here>
[19:25] <Serveck> is it just me, or can only one program use my sound card at a time?
[19:25] <KalEl> help, when i type "apt-get" after the normal help it says "This APT has Super Cow Powers"
[19:25] <Pici> KalEl: Thats normal.
[19:25] <KalEl> which is kinda strange
[19:26] <SpudDogg> Serveck:  you mean for example if you're listening to an MP
[19:26] <Serveck> yea
[19:26] <Pici> KalEl: Its a programming 'joke'
[19:26] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[19:26] <KalEl> no virus?
[19:26] <IndyGunFreak> super cow?
[19:26] <Pici> KalEl: no virus.
[19:26] <mbrandt> apt-get
[19:26] <Serveck> and then firefox locks up if i play a sound file while MP is running
[19:26] <SpudDogg> Serveck:  you mean for example if you're listening to an MP3 via totem or rhtymbox, you cannot hear a system sound?
[19:26] <KalEl> ok thanks :)
[19:26] <olopez> Serveck: it depends , if driver can or not play to sound fonts at same time
[19:26] <Pici> KalEl: try apt-get moo
[19:26] <kane77> KalEl, lol..
[19:26] <Serveck> its a realtek97 i believe
[19:26] <KalEl> yes... i tried to install the program 'moo' before... a friend said it's good
[19:26] <SpudDogg> Pici:  lol
[19:27] <Pici> KalEl: no, not the package. just: apt-get moo
[19:27] <IzMbit> Yesss!! :D everything works oki!:D:D
[19:27] <yowsh2> hmmm i am tyring to mount what i think is a dvd image only the mount command is telling me i have to specify the images filesystem
[19:27] <IzMbit> thx you guys ;)
[19:27] <bazhang> IzMbit: you good now?
[19:27] <kane77> KalEl, if you try aptitude moo it doesn't give you the cow :)
[19:27] <IzMbit> yeap :D very good:)
[19:27] <Aragon> KalEl: try aptitude this one has no super cow power...
[19:27] <KalEl> Pici, will it say "super cow powers" always from now on?
[19:27] <redwhitewaldo> how can i automatically do 3 "sudo" commands whenever i startup my computer?
[19:27] <Serveck> olopez: is there an updated sound driver?
[19:27] <Pici> KalEl: It has always said that.
[19:27] <olopez> Serveck: i don't know about realteck 95 but son driver can play to sound at sametime you can find infomation in the kernel module documentation
[19:27] <KalEl> oh ok :)
[19:27] <bazhang> izmbit remember that command and stay away from envy
[19:27] <Serveck> link?
[19:27] <IndyGunFreak> redwhitewaldo: what 3 sudo commands would those be?
[19:28] <IzMbit> stay away from envy :o
[19:28] <kindofabuzz> envy rocks =)
[19:28] <mbrandt> gotta love them Easter Eggs
[19:28] <yowsh2> it doesnt say super cow poers
[19:28] <yowsh2> it says have you moo'd today
[19:28] <IndyGunFreak> kindofabuzz: lol, yeah, it will make your computer as useless as a rock
[19:28] <bazhang> people who use envy have heads full of rocks more like
[19:28] <yowsh2> IndyGunFreak: i used envy
[19:28] <yowsh2> it worked
[19:28] <deniz__> i have the screenlets package from getdeb but how do i stick a the time4linux clock on desktop like vista's clock?
[19:28] <IndyGunFreak> yowsh2: for now...
[19:28] <bazhang> just wait
[19:28] <yowsh2> IndyGunFreak: and it didnt paperweight my system
[19:29] <IndyGunFreak> you should put, "to be continud"
[19:29] <IndyGunFreak> Yowshi: give it time
[19:29] <CapnMizrbl> help, java no worky
[19:29] <genii> bazhang: It's the lure of an easy, fast answer which makes people use such things as envy or automatix
[19:29] <roeinstein> hi, I was curious if there is a way to make my login screen the same resolution as my desktop. my desktop is 1680x1050 but for some reason my login screen is 800x600
[19:29] <KalEl> "aptitude moo" - "There are no Easter Eggs in this program." :(
[19:29] <bazhang> genii: you are not wrong sir ;]
[19:29] <Yowshi> IndyGunFreak: i dont have anvy any more. cant get it after the install. but it was the best way for installing nvidia drivers at the time
[19:29] <redwhitewaldo> IndyGunFreak: the 3 sudo commands that i want to have autotically startup are : 1)modprobe visor (for my pda); 2 and 3) sudo modprobe ndiswrapper and sudo depmod -a (for ndiswrapper, wireless pci card)
[19:29] <Yowshi> IndyGunFreak: the restricted manager didnt work
[19:29] <IndyGunFreak> Yowshi: well, thats where you're wrong, it wasn't the best way
[19:29] <KalEl> "aptitude -v moo" - "There *really* are no Easter Eggs in this program."
[19:29] <Yowshi> IndyGunFreak: was the best way for me
[19:30] <IzMbit> now i have gnome but i dont khow how other enviroments looks and what are the deferents, i change envyroment the xorg.conf is the same ? or it change?
[19:30] <kane77> KalEl, and aptitude help says that This aptitude does not have Super Cow Powers.
[19:30] <IndyGunFreak> Yowshi: well, no it wasn't, it was just the way you figured out, it most certainly wasn't the best way, even if it worked
[19:30] <Aragon> redwhitewaldo: try to write it in /etc/rc.local
[19:30] <KleRoi> hi, i have a problem. i've updated ubuntu from feisty to gutsy, but now gutsy doesn't detect my wireless device. It can only connect with the ethernet cable but just doesn't see the wireless! I have an acer 5672, the wireless card should be Intel... can anyone help me?
[19:30] <CapnMizrbl> anyone: does 64bit mess with java function
[19:30] <bazhang> izmbit should be the same; kubuntu works fine with that card (or the near equivalent) and kde4 rocks ;]
[19:30] <redwhitewaldo> Aragon: when you say "try" do you mean it might not work?
[19:30] <kane77> CapnMizrbl, it wouldn't hurt if you were more specific.. what java? jre? jdk? plugin? what system etc...
[19:30] <Yowshi> IndyGunFreak: it worked. automatically whats so bad about envy anyway
[19:30] <Aragon> no it work... ;)
[19:31] <IndyGunFreak> Yowshi: use google, you'll see.
[19:31] <Yowshi> IndyGunFreak: it isnt like automatix is it where it can frag your stuff
[19:31] <geekwar> IndyGunFreak: What defines "best" if functionality was obtained? I've used it prior too, it got the drivers downloaded and installed and the same system runs 3d rendering daily
[19:31] <IDX[Away]> Question again:  why would booting into Ubuntu 8.04 (latest beta) on my primary NTFS via Wubi, and running "sudo ifconfig eth1 mtu 1400" cause Windows to forget or corrupt the drivers of my wireless adapter (eth1) on the next boot?
[19:31] <IndyGunFreak> Yowshi: automatix and envy have a LOT of similarities in the problems they cause
[19:31] <bazhang> KleRoi: what does lspci say abou t that card please
[19:31] <olopez> Serveck: i think realteck 97 is well suported with alsa but i really don't know the state of this driver , look for a documentation of this driver
[19:31] <recon> is there any way to have /dev/dsp link to /dev/dsp1 instead?
[19:31] <roeinstein> hi, I was curious if there is a way to make my login screen the same resolution as my desktop. my desktop is 1680x1050 but for some reason my login screen is 800x600
[19:31] <KalEl> you have to try this, "aptitude -v moo", then try with -vv, -vvv, -vvvv etc
[19:31] <KalEl> :D
[19:31] <redwhitewaldo> Aragon it _WILL_ work? If so,w what do i type in the local file?
[19:31] <Yowshi> IndyGunFreak: neither automatix nor envy have ever caused me problems
[19:31] <redwhitewaldo> Aragon should it have "sudo"?
[19:31] <KleRoi> bazhang: 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)
[19:31] <CapnMizrbl> ok dokay
[19:31] <IndyGunFreak> Yowshi: lol, you are one lucky fella..
[19:32] <Yowshi> IndyGunFreak: and i used envy almost weekyl cause i had to reset xorg due to flash problems
[19:32] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[19:32] <IndyGunFreak> *but it worked great
[19:32] <Yowshi> it did
[19:32] <Yowshi> that was flash that was breaking
[19:32] <bazhang> KleRoi: that card is the best supported in linux/ubuntu; I have the same card and it is a treat--what does ifconfig show; just eth0 and lo?
[19:32] <Yowshi> it still does but i know how to kill it now
[19:32] <IndyGunFreak> uh huh
[19:33] <bazhang> Yowshi: mmkay
[19:33] <hischild> what command is the screenshot button executing? I'm trying to get it to work under fluxbox.
[19:33] <KleRoi> yes bazhang, eth0 and lo
[19:33] <pingu> does anyone else have/know how to use thunderbird
[19:33] <KleRoi> just those two
[19:33] <Yowshi> IndyGunFreak: in the opast my atempts to reset my screen buggered my driver settings. so i had to reset it. now i killall npviewer
[19:33] <identitx> Any help please? Question again:  why would booting into Ubuntu 8.04 (latest beta) on my primary NTFS via Wubi, and running "sudo ifconfig eth1 mtu 1400" cause Windows to forget or corrupt the drivers of my wireless adapter (eth1) on the next boot?
[19:33] <Curiouser> Pingu> Yes
[19:33] <Aragon> redwhitewaldo: type: "sudo nano /etc/rc.local" then just enter your commands without sudo
[19:33] <bazhang> identitx: #ubuntu+1 please
[19:33] <pingu> Curiouser: how can i find out what my incoming server is?
[19:34] <blkno1> Just built a new server running 7.10  Has two 500G hardrives.  set Up both as NFS share, but can only write to the first share from another system any ideas?
[19:34] <boubbin> does dpkg solve dependencies automaticly ?
[19:34] <IndyGunFreak> ok Yowshi whatever you say, but every other INTELLIGENT person who has examined envy and automatix, says you're full of it, so i'll take their side on the matter, along w/ personal experience
[19:34] <bazhang> KleRoi: check the restricted driver manager for that card
[19:34] <redwhitewaldo> Aragon, by the way, i think i was unclear. I don't need these commands to run when i BOOT the computer. ONLY when I log into a session. Does this make any difference to your advice?
[19:34] <identitx> bazhang: Thanks, apologies.
[19:34] <Yowshi> IndyGunFreak: well my personal experience says envy works. i dont know the code inside of it i have never looked
[19:34] <bazhang> Yowshi: but getting offtopic ;]
[19:34] <IndyGunFreak> !worksforme
[19:34] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[19:35] <KleRoi> bazhang:  if I try to open it it says that i need linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-386
[19:35] <bazhang> KleRoi: then install them
[19:35] <Aragon> redwhitewaldo: ahh ok i don't now that... which commands are these?
[19:36] <hischild> ok a rephrase perhaps: is there and app that will let me take a screenshot from CLI ?
[19:36] <olopez> yes
[19:36] <olopez> hischild: import
[19:36] <Curiouser> Pingu> Incoming and outgoing servers now listed separately... shoot, I can't find it.  Right click on account or Local Folders and Properties
[19:36] <nikrud> redwhitewaldo is there any particular reason you wouldn't want those modules loaded into the kernel at boot? It's not like they take a lot of memory or anything
[19:36] <CapnMizrbl> kane77:you ther
[19:36] <simplexio> redwhitewaldo: /etc/modules ?
[19:36] <hischild> olopez: thank you.
[19:36] <BarryToeman> how do I find the default shell for a user?
[19:36] <IndyGunFreak> hischild: yes, mine is called Olympus, you may have one called Cannon..
[19:36] <IndyGunFreak> :)
[19:36] <KleRoi> ok bazhang, just installing them :)
[19:36] <olopez> hischild: it comes with imagemagick i think
[19:36] <simplexio> redwhitewaldo: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/how-do-i-load-the-sound-card-module-during-boot-478688/ could be helpful
[19:36] <hischild> IndyGunFreak: thank you. Is it capable of screenshotting on hotkey?
[19:37] <bazhang> KleRoi: you will be glad you have that card ;]
[19:37] <hischild> olopez: correct.
[19:37] <Curiouser> Must leave, sorry
[19:37] <IndyGunFreak> hischild: apparently you didn't dtect my sarcasm, those are models of cameras
[19:37] <KleRoi> bazhang: hehe i hope so, i've tried a couple of things but i was starting to fear that my card wasn't good with gutsy :\
[19:37] <pingu> Curiouser: well thats kinda hard seeing as im trying to set up a new account ( i just installed it like 20 minutes ago) and i have no idea what an incoming server is
[19:37] <nikrud> redwhitewaldo and simplexio is right, simply listing  ndiswrapper  and  visor in /etc/modules is the simple, best way to do that, not rc.local
[19:37] <hischild> IndyGunFreak: i'm sorry, i suck at detecting sarcasm...
[19:38] <IndyGunFreak> hischild: its ok..
[19:38] <redwhitewaldo> Aragon, the 3 commands are: 1)modprobe visor (for my pda); 2 and 3) sudo modprobe ndiswrapper and sudo depmod -a (for ndiswrapper, wireless pci card)
[19:38] <bazhang> KleRoi: that card is the star of all cards--in gutsy hardy and beyond (other distros as well)
[19:38] <KleRoi> :O
[19:38] <pbne04> can someone help me a sec? I downloaded the net-tools package cause I needed to check route.c - it includes a file named version.h but I cannot seem to find this file..anyone know where I can find it?
[19:38] <Aragon> redwhitewaldo: y dont run it on boot?? it shouldn't do any difference
[19:38] <CapnMizrbl> anyone: icedtea java plug in no worky, 7.10-64 firefox ver 2.0.0.13
[19:38] <legend2440> pingu: the incoming (pop) and outgoing (smtp)  server names are assigned by your ISP
[19:39] <CapnMizrbl> AMD
[19:39] <dido> do you know a channel for speakin' french?
[19:39] <KleRoi> ok bazhang i'm on the restricted drivers manager, it lists 3 components, ati gfx drivr, intel pro wireless driver and lucent agere linmodem controller driver. the only one in use is the intel pro wireless
[19:39] <pingu> legend2440: where can i find them?
[19:39] <bazhang> !fr
[19:39] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[19:39] <legend2440> pingu:  who is your isp?
[19:40] <pingu> legend2440: resnet
[19:40] <hischild> IndyGunFreak: it would seem i found what i was looking for in import from imagemagick
[19:40] <IndyGunFreak> hischild: oh ok.. good.
[19:40] <bazhang> KleRoi: its been awhile; does ifconfig show the card now? cant remember if you need a reboot or not
[19:40] <legend2440> pingu: either call them for help or go to their website
[19:40] <KleRoi> mmm no it doesnt show bazhang
[19:41] <redwhitewaldo> Aragon is there really NO difference in running some SUDO commands on Boot or on login to session?
[19:41] <Yowshi> IndyGunFreak: i am having a hard time finding an overwhelming response on google that would indicate bad crap about envy. i do see a fair number of pages touting this as a good and useful tool though
[19:41] <bazhang> KleRoi: guess you need to reboot; be sure that the laptop kill switch for internet is switched to wireless on--I had some embarassing time when I left it off and could not get wireless working ;]
[19:41] <Aragon> no... i have my graphic card with modprobe in /etc/rc.local and it works fine
[19:41] <IndyGunFreak> Yowshi: ok.., well, i'm not gonna show you the forest for the trees.
[19:42] <pingu> legend2440: is that the only way
[19:42] <bullgard4> pbne04: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic/include/linux/version.h
[19:42] <nikrud> Yowshi the reason we don't encourage envy here is all the people that come here cuz it broke on upgrade
[19:42] <KleRoi> okay thanks bazhang! thanks a lot, i'll try to reboot and see if it works. if it does i'll come here to thank again :) see you
[19:42] <IndyGunFreak> Yowshi: googling for porn isn't gonna come up w/ pics for envy.. :)
[19:42] <pingu> legend2440: i mean all im using it for is to set up thunderbird it can't be that hard to get can it?
[19:42] <Yowshi> nikrud: well duh i would expect the drivers to break and need to be reinstaklled on upgrade anyway
[19:42] <roeinstein> hi, I was curious if there is a way to make my login screen the same resolution as my desktop. my desktop is 1680x1050 but for some reason my login screen is 800x600
[19:42] <nikrud> Aragon heh. simply list the  video card driver in /etc/modules , that's what it exists for
[19:42] <bazhang> Yowshi: stay in here for a few weeks and see how many complaints there are about envy breaking things and then get back to us
[19:43] <legend2440> pingu: well if you don't know the mail server names i guess it is
[19:43] <nikrud> Yowshi so, you're not a beginner then. What's good for the skilled is not good for people still low on the learning curve. Don't suggest envy willy nilly
[19:44] <amikrop> Some whistling is made by my computer. When I mute "Master" it stops.
[19:44] <Aragon> nikrud: ahh i don't yea but i have to run rmmod nvidia modprobe nvidia... does this work too?
[19:44] <Yowshi> nikrud: i wasnt actually i was just rebutting the comment that envy just breaks systems.
[19:44] <amikrop> When I raise "Master"'s volume it screams.
[19:44] <geekwar> amikrop: Do you have a microphone?
[19:44] <amikrop> Any help?
[19:44] <amikrop> geekwar: No
[19:44] <nikrud> Yowshi you haven't.
[19:44] <amikrop> geekwar: Actually, I have a laptop
[19:44] <amikrop> and the microphone is builtin
[19:44] <bazhang> nikrud: +5
[19:44] <nikrud> Aragon why would you need to rmmod it?
[19:45] <geekwar> amikrop: see if there is a spot for you to mute the built-in mic
[19:45] <Unxuxu> Hi...  How could I check if a memory card is compatible on linux?  I have two laptops, and I need to know if I can use 1gb from one to another...
[19:45] <bazhang> Unxuxu: flash key?
[19:45] <Aragon> nikrud: otherwise it doesn't work.. its a notebook... ;) i had much trouble to run ubunut on it... :D
[19:45] <amikrop> geekwar: spot?
[19:45] <Yowshi> nikrud: i have never used envy and then not been able to boot or do something. it just hasnt happened and i have had to use it alot in the past when i didnt know what i was doing with my graphics. i've borked my system over more on my own then i think envy ever could
[19:45] <Aragon> nikrud: it is a samsung x65
[19:45] <nikrud> Aragon you must be using some weird, not ubuntu provided driver ;)
[19:46] <yaselmane> Hi to all
[19:46] <geekwar> amikrop: haha, yea that was the technical definition! ;) Check if there is a physical switch, or at least a mute option in your sound control
[19:46] <shreyaspotnis> hi
[19:46] <pingu> legend2440: true
[19:46] <Unxuxu> bazhang: no... RAM memory.. sorry my english is so poor
[19:46] <nikrud> Yowshi I have a text replace to remind me of something: Works for Me™ ;)
[19:46] <yaselmane> i have a problem with my laptop
[19:46] <blueberry> hi everybody i build a linksys wmp54g wireless card in my computer, ubuntu now wants me to download some kind of firmware??? what the hell should i do?
[19:46] <Aragon> nikrud: it is the nvidia driver... the ubuntu driver doesn't work properly...
[19:46] <amikrop> geekwar: I record sound with the "Capture" option.
[19:47] <bazhang> Unxuxu: check the computer specs for both; if it is ddr2 for both then good to go, etc
[19:47] <jack_spratt> blueberry: firmware doesnt necessarily mean firmware
[19:47] <amikrop> geekwar: And muting it does not help.
[19:47] <yaselmane> the bright button doesn't work any more
[19:47] <Yowshi> nikrud cute tm. wats the alt combo for that
[19:47] <nikrud> Yowshi here we make a real effort to give advice that fits within the designed distro :)
[19:47] <yaselmane> what can i so to fix it ?
[19:47] <yaselmane> do
[19:47] <jack_spratt> blueberry: google it, see if it runs natively or if it works with ndiswrapper
[19:47] <blueberry> well
[19:47] <blueberry> i read
[19:47] <blueberry> that is hould rund out of the box
[19:47] <blueberry> but it doesnt somehow
[19:47] <nikrud> Yowshi I found it in apps->accessories->char map ,don't know the unicode off hand
[19:47] <Unxuxu> bazhang: yeah... but I dont have specs for one of then...
[19:47] <jack_spratt> blueberry: well there you go
[19:47] <bazhang> blueberry: download the firmware
[19:47] <ompaul> !enter | blueberry
[19:47] <ubotu> blueberry: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[19:47] <geekwar> amikrop: ah, was an idea, sorry. I've experienced it with some systems. The only thing I can imagine is somehow you are getting a crossover between input/output but I don't know where you'd fix that
[19:48] <jack_spratt> blueberry: kernel module enabled
[19:48] <jack_spratt> ?
[19:48] <blueberry> what?
[19:48] <Unxuxu> bazhang: Couldnt check with linux cmd line?
[19:48] <bazhang> Unxuxu: you are going to open both computers right? look at the model and make and check the manufacturers website for specs
[19:48] <jack_spratt> bazhang: you think the actual device needs new firmware?
[19:49] <blueberry> jack_spratt: what? how enable?
[19:49] <bazhang> jack_spratt: I am guessing he means drivers and not firmware
[19:49] <blueberry> no
[19:49] <blueberry> it sais
[19:49] <Unxuxu> bazhang: hmmmm ok...
[19:49] <blueberry> download firmaware
[19:49] <Unxuxu> :/
[19:49] <jack_spratt> bazhang: me too, thats why i said firmware is often not really firmware
[19:49] <ompaul> blueberry, don't hit the enter key after one word, type it all on in one go, people can follow it easier, and time is not important getting the message across is -- please don't use enter after two or three words
[19:49] <jack_spratt> blueberry: it wont need firmware most likely, ive never used a wireless linksys that did
[19:50] <blueberry> okay sorry, so what sould i do .. if i type iwconfig it finds a wlan interface at eth2
[19:50] <jack_spratt> blueberry: as bazhang says probably just download what it wants, give it the benefit of the doubt, see if it works, when it doesnt we can proceed
[19:50] <KleRoi> bazhang:  hi, it's me again. the problem isn't fixed yet, i can't seem to see any wireless device altho there has been 2 changes: in the network manager now there is the "wireless" option while before it wasn't there. also sometimes the wireless "thingy" outside the laptop to turn it on and off has made a couple of flashes while before it was always off. if I do ifconfig i just see eth0 and lo
[19:50] <bazhang> blueberry: open wifi or encrypted hot spot?
[19:51] <blueberry> yeah well it wants a link to the download!!!!11
[19:51] <blueberry> open wifi
[19:51] <amikrop> geekwar: ok
[19:51] <bazhang> KleRoi: great news; now try iwconfig and see what that shows
[19:51] <Titanium2204> salut tout le monde ^^
[19:51] <KleRoi> it shows lo, eth0 and eth1
[19:51] <bazhang> blueberry: try sudo dhclient eth2
[19:52] <Guillaume2> greets. i inserted an audio disc and it wont eject. havent done much with it. "hda drive not ready" stdouts. hardware/software eject doesnt work and the device isnt even mounted anymore.
[19:52] <erstazi> What does one do if they do not have /dev/video* (none at all), does anyone know what to softlink it as?
[19:52] <bazhang> KleRoi: you have a hotspot (wifi) to test it on?
[19:52] <blueberry> i downloaded wifi-radar and it said it cant find the device ..
[19:52] <zloog__> Hi, does anyone know how I can read the Label the DVD (like within a bash script?)
[19:52] <KleRoi> bazhang:  yes i do have a wireless net in my house. also in lo and eth0 it says no wireless extension, while in eth1 it says unassociated and a bunch of other stuff
[19:52] <jack_spratt> blueberry: so you googled this device and it should work natively, and you definitely have the right revision etc. so this device should work as a fact correct?
[19:52] <bazhang> blueberry: did you even read what I just said? try that in the terminal
[19:53] <erstazi> KleRoi: can you pastebin (http://pastebin.ca) your sudo lshw -C network
[19:53] <blueberry> yes i looked on ubuntuusers.de they have a hardware databse and it sais it works since Brezzy version
[19:53] <legend2440> Guillaume2: i have has that happen and only way i could get the cd/dvd out was to reboot
[19:53] <bazhang> KleRoi: is the hot spot open wep wpa/wpa2 or what
[19:53] <Dada_> Hello, anybody who has experience with getting the network to work in Parallels 3.0?
[19:54] <KleRoi> bazhang: it should be wpa. erstazi: ok i'm doing that
[19:54] <deniz__> can sum1 help me share a connection using the terminal and not firestarter plz?
[19:54] <jack_spratt> Dada_: are you a property developer who like bf2?
[19:54] <Dada_> Huh
[19:54] <bazhang> blueberry: we are giving advice and you are ignoring it; feel free to solve this problem on your own thanks
[19:54] <Dada_> what?
[19:54] <KleRoi> erstazi: http://pastebin.ca/971432
[19:55] <jack_spratt> Dada_: dont worry i thought you were someone else
[19:55] <blueberry> bazhang: what?? i am following your hints but my card does not work
[19:55] <Dada_> Out of curiosity, what's bf2?
[19:55] <MungOfTheFuture> has anyone else noticed that when you run evolution mail it crashes gnome-panel? (it's not a *huge* deal cause they come back, but still...)
[19:55] <erstazi> KleRoi: well, eth1 is claiming your wifi
[19:55] <zloog__> Whats the command to fetch a Volume name from my dvd drive?
[19:56] <ompaul> !wireless | blueberry read that in detail it works
[19:56] <ubotu> blueberry read that in detail it works: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[19:56] <KleRoi> mmm what does that mean erstazi? is that bad? :)
[19:56] <bazhang> blueberry: I said sudo dhclient eth2 from the terminal and you gave no response but talked about some wifi-radar instead--give the precise errors you get please
[19:56] <pbne04> whats the command for 'locate'ing a file and excluding a certain dir in the search? I used -e <dir> but it didnt work
[19:56] <zloog__> NM: volname lol
[19:56] <blueberry> bazhang: ok sorry il will do that now
[19:56] <werdz> oure allowed be emo sometimes:)
[19:56] <erstazi> KleRoi: well, that means your wifi is accessible through eth1, thats the interface... so you could do: sudo ifconfig eth1 up; sudo iwlist scan
[19:56] <werdz> feck
[19:56] <werdz> wrong channel
[19:56] <werdz> sorry <.<
[19:56] <KleRoi> OOOHH WAIT A SEC
[19:57] <erstazi> KleRoi: ?
[19:57] <erstazi> What does one do if they do not have /dev/video* (none at all), does anyone know what to softlink it as?
[19:57] <bazhang> KleRoi: listen to erstazi--he knows what he is doing; also be thankful you have that card and not a broadcom ;]
[19:57] <jack_spratt> Dada_: Battlefield 2, my clan leader is called dada and uses buntu
[19:57] <KleRoi> ups, sorry. erstazi and bazhang: i see my wireless now. i've connected it with the ac adaptor, maybe i didn't see it before because i was on low battery
[19:57] <Dada_> Ah, I see :-)
[19:57] <bazhang> KleRoi: hahaha
[19:58] <Dada_> Nope, but I played a lot of Quake...
[19:58] <erstazi> KleRoi: yeah, it easts battery, so when you are remote and what not and want to save the battery, try turning it off
[19:58] <KleRoi> altho without that step you made me bazhang i still wasnt able to see anything.
[19:58] <erstazi> s/easts/eats/
[19:58] <bazhang> easts works for me ;]
[19:58] <blueberry> bazhang: receive_packet failed on eth2: Network is down
[19:58] <blueberry> DHCPDISCOVER on eth2 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 5
[19:58] <erstazi> KleRoi: if you want to rescan the available AP's, always use: sudo iwlist scan
[19:58] <geekwar> I like the substitute string
[19:58] <Dada_> Kind of stupid that Parallels, a popular product, still does not make networking work out of the box for the most popular Linux distro as of version 3.
[19:58] <KleRoi> okay then, thanks a lot both of you guys erstazi and bazhang! thank god there are people like you helping us :)
[19:58] <hischild> erstazi: i was so convinced it was west and not east!
[19:59] <ihasn> hey how do i setup different backgrounds for workspaces?
[19:59] <erstazi> hischild: I am tired haha, and I trying to solve something so I type too quick ):
[19:59] <Odd-rationale> ihasn: look for wallpapoz. it is not in the repos though...
[19:59] <hischild> erstazi: hehe i understand :P
[19:59] <kindofabuzz> ihasn: http://wallpapoz.akbarhome.com/
[20:00] <ihasn> thanks kindofabuzz
[20:00] <erstazi> its just frustrating, I don't have any /dev/video* and I am not sure which one to softlink it as
[20:00] <Rageon> whee kan i rant?
[20:00] <erstazi> the webcam is setup properly, no bad messages in dmesg about it or even im /var/log/messages... USB recognizes it
[20:00] <jack_spratt> geez why does everyone tell new users to use CLI in buntu, why not just use gui that they can understand
[20:00] <Rageon> where*
[20:00] <bazhang> !ot | Rageon
[20:00] <ubotu> Rageon: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[20:00] <Dada_> ahaaaa
[20:00] <erstazi> jack_spratt: why not learn the command line?
[20:00] <Rageon> ty
[20:01] <zloog__> <3 lunix
[20:01] <jack_spratt> erstazi
[20:01] <erstazi> jack_spratt:
[20:01] <geekwar> lol
[20:01] <jack_spratt> erstazi: i am learning it, but im talking about others, newbs, they get put off
[20:01] <bazhang> jack_spratt: well sometimes it is quicker to install packages etc though you do make a fair point and many helpers do just that
[20:02] <erstazi> jack_spratt: true, but there are commands like "sudo iwlist scan" that are not replicatable on the GUI (:
[20:02] <jack_spratt> bazhang: its quicker for helpers but not newbs in the long run dont you think
[20:02] <hischild> jack_spratt: it's easier to tell them a single command that they can copy and paste into terminal to magically fix their problems.
[20:02] <jack_spratt> erstazi: they should be
[20:02] <bazhang> jack_spratt: they are the next generation of helpers ;]
[20:02] <erstazi> jack_spratt: also most of the documentation has command line
[20:02] <jack_spratt> hischild: exactly, magic, they dont understand what theyre doing
[20:02] <jack_spratt> i know there are advantages
[20:02] <hischild> jack_spratt: they're newbs. They won't understand the GUI any more.
[20:03] <jack_spratt> hischild: lol, thats nice
[20:03] <Jckf> How can I clone front left and right to rear left and right to fake surround from a stereo signal?
[20:03] <yuri_> Q: what package do i install to get flash working in konqueror?
[20:03] <geekwar> Jckf: why not just split the cable with speaker wire?
[20:03] <hischild> jack_spratt: i'm sorry if i'm harsh here, but the fact is and stays that most newbs are not interested in the way how their problem is fixed as long as it gets fixed. If the easiest way to do it, is by giving them a series of commands, then that's what they get.
[20:03] <hischild> !flash | yuri_
[20:03] <ubotu> yuri_: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[20:04] <kindofabuzz> found a great guide for basic cl stuff: http://cb.vu/unixtoolbox.xhtml
[20:04] <geekwar> Jckf: If applicable, you could also use RCA splits to reduce loss
[20:04] <bazhang> thanks for the info kindofabuzz ;]
[20:04] <cristi1990> can anyone help me with sharing an internet connection?
[20:04] <kindofabuzz> kinda advanced but some great stuff to know
[20:05] <bazhang> yup
[20:05] <Jckf> geekwar: I have one, but that'd remove surround from surround sources
[20:05] <legend2440> Sexy Unix Commands: date; unzip; touch; strip; finger; mount; gasp; yes; uptime
[20:05] <erstazi> gah! I just installed this ov51x webcam and its recognized but when running a webcam app, it says no /dev/video0 and there is no /dev/video
[20:05] <bazhang> cristi1990: like how; adhoc one computer wireless /wired sharing as a hub for others or what--please be precise
[20:05] <kindofabuzz> legend2440: =)
[20:05] <geekwar> Jckf: Ah I understand, so you have a surround system, but you want to mimic the output from a stereo signal?
[20:05] <erstazi> does anyone know what to softlink /dev/video* to?
[20:05] <Jckf> geekwar: Yes =)
[20:06] <geekwar> Jckf: what sound card is it?
[20:06] <jack_spratt> hischild: maybe its because the room is always so full and there are so many to help that there isnt time to explain everything, huh?
[20:06] <cheatersrealm> I am trying to upgrade to hardy, and I get: The following packages have unmet dependencies: libgnomekbd1: Depends: libgnomekbd-common (= 2.20.0-1) but 2.22.0-1 is to be installed.
[20:06] <yuri_> flashplugin-nonfree is alreadry installed and i use it in firefox. i want to use it in konqueror as well
[20:06] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 please cheatersrealm
[20:06] <cheatersrealm> ok
[20:06] <cristi1990> bazhang: i have a internet connection (wired), and a 2 pc wired connection, and i would like to share the internet from one to another
[20:07] <vulcar> How do I stop the xServer to install new nvidia drivers?
[20:07] <hischild> jack_spratt: that's also part of it. Another part is that most are from a windows background where they are used to get fast support if something breaks.
[20:07] <Jckf> geekwar: SB Audigy 24bit I believe
[20:07] <loser> can someone tell me the name of the manager that lets you turn your gui all 3d and cube like?
[20:07] <bazhang> cristi1990: with crossover cables via wifi or what please spell it out clearly
[20:07] <bazhang> ccsm loser
[20:07] <hischild> loser: compizconfig-settings-manager
[20:07] <Jckf> loser: Compiz or Beryl?
[20:07] <jack_spratt> hischild: i dont know how, ive never got fast windows support except from IRC :)
[20:07] <loser> thank you very much
[20:08] <loser> compiz
[20:08] <rav> Hey, i installed my Video card successfully. But now the compiz just doesnt work, like i have the advanced settings thing, but it just doesnt take effect at all
[20:08] <hischild> jack_spratt: it's not windows itself, but the software you buy on windows has fast support with it (usually)
[20:08] <LinTux> Cany anybody tell me what I am doing wrong here -  sh ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[20:08] <LinTux> ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[20:08] <cristi1990> bazhang: uf idk how to... i think it's crossover cable
[20:08] <jack_spratt> hischild: oh i see what you mean
[20:08] <bazhang> rav you have ccsm installed?
[20:08] <hischild> bazhang: does ccsm also install when trying to install via synaptic?
[20:08] <rav> Yes sir
[20:08] <bazhang> hischild it will pull in other things iirc
[20:08] <jon_high9000> hello, can anybody help on this one. I need to find a quick way on Ubuntu 7.10 to get to a folder on Desktop in root.
[20:09] <hischild> bazhang: let me check that one
[20:09] <rav> Whats the command to see if you have direct render enabled?
[20:09] <ompaul> !root | jon_high9000 -- have a look at this page --
[20:09] <bazhang> rav how about alt f2 compiz --replace what does that do
[20:09] <kindofabuzz> hey bazhang how did they do this? http://cb.vu/ or is that not a real terminal?
[20:09] <hischild> bazhang: E: Unable to locate package ccsm
[20:09] <Odd-rationale> jon_high9000: gksudo nautilus is one way. but not really reccemmended....
[20:09] <rikyrivera> join #AIX
[20:09] <yuri_> jon_high9000: alt+f2 gksudo /path/to/folder   or make that a command in your start bar
[20:09] <ubotu> jon_high9000 -- have a look at this page --: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[20:10] <ompaul> !supportroot | Odd-rationale , jon_high9000  (plea se don't that breaks stuff)
[20:10] <ubotu> Odd-rationale , jon_high9000  (plea se don't that breaks stuff): We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-)
[20:10] <bazhang> hischild: sorry that was compizconfig-settings-manager; the ccsm is from !ccsm here in channel
[20:10] <rikyrivera> !apt fix
[20:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt fix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:10] <geekwar> Jckf: Do you know what your system actually sees your soundcard as? i.e. mine sees my audigy 4 as an audigy 2 and I get full sound. My friends Audigy x-fi was defined as a generic Alsa device
[20:10] <djjd> what is the default root password when booting from the live cd?]\
[20:10] <rikyrivera> !aptfix
[20:10] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[20:10] <cristi1990> bazhang: i have 2 wired connections eth1(the connection from which i have internet) and eth0 (the connection without), and i would like to share the internet from eth1 to eth2
[20:10] <LinTux> What am I doing wrong here -  sh ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[20:10] <LinTux> ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[20:10] <vulcar> anyone know how to stop the xserver to install new nvidia drivers?
[20:10] <hischild> bazhang: good luck =)
[20:10] <geekwar> Jckf: We had to instruct the system to view it as an audigy card
[20:10] <Jckf> geekwar: Its a valid surround setup. I can play separatly through all channels
[20:10] <rav> Ohhh yeah, it works. How do i get that to do it automatically? or will i have to enter that everytime i wish for it to be 'pretty'?
[20:10] <rikyrivera> !aptfix|rikyrivera
[20:10] <hischild> bazhang: i haz to run ... be back hopefully soon
[20:11] <genii> djjd: There isn't one, it's blank
[20:11] <djjd> cool thanks
[20:11] <geekwar> Jckf: So the OS is seeing the speakers too? >.< Oye
[20:11] <Odd-rationale> djjd: <enter>
[20:11] <loser> Ok to make it into a cube im guessing i just check desktop cube haha
[20:11] <funalien> Hello! Is it dangerous to remove ubuntu-desktop package??
[20:11] <legend2440> LinTux: did you chmod a+x RealPlayer10GOLD.bin (make it executable)
[20:12] <Odd-rationale> funalien: not really. what wants to remove it?
[20:12] <bazhang> kindofabuzz:  very cool! seems to be xhtml but acts like a real shell
[20:12] <LinTux> cheers legend244G, no i did not m8
[20:12] <Jckf> geekwar: Yes. I believe so. I did atleast get the correct output with some command I can't remember in the terminal
[20:12] <cristi1990> bazhang: so how do i share that internet?
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[20:12] <legend2440> LinTux: then ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin (start install) without sh
[20:12] <funalien> Odd-rationale, I wan't to remove gnome-terminal, because I'm using xterm instead
[20:12] <kindofabuzz> bazhang: yeah if you type help it says it a virtual term, so i gues off a real computer somewhere
[20:13] <bazhang> very cool
[20:13] <Odd-rationale> jon_high9000: be very careful with that command though, you can easy delete things and thy're gone!
[20:13] <Pelo> funalien, sudo apt-get remove gnome-terminal
[20:13] <gafatoa> Hello guys ! Is there a software to fill PDF forms ?
[20:13] <loser> can Anyone help me get the cube thing to work ?
[20:13] <zloog__> hooray
[20:13] <secureT> hi iam looking for a list of all possible shell commands
[20:13] <zloog__> internets
[20:13] <Odd-rationale> funalien: so gnome-terminal wants to remove ubuntu-desktop with it?
[20:13] <Pelo> gafatoa, I think you can do it in OOo , but no garranties
[20:13] <funalien> Pelo, I know,thanks
[20:13] <roger_that_gorax> hello, installed apache, looking to add my own php files in there, but it wont let me. how do i alow myself to edit the apache www folder under the non root user?
[20:14] <Odd-rationale> funalien: ubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package.
[20:14] <funalien> Odd-rationale, yes, it wants
[20:14] <geekwar> Jckf: Have you already looked over https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SurroundSound
[20:14] <LinTux> Legend244G, cheers m8, all done now.
[20:14] <sebastian_> hola
[20:14] <funalien> Odd-rationale, that does it means?
[20:14] <funalien> '
[20:14] <offload> hey guys.  I want to set up a single machine in my business's break room as an internet kiosk.  Is there anything you guys reccomend that uses gnome but will lock the machine down tight enough for public access without changing desktop pictures and icons and what not?  Also the ability to have an opendns / netnanny sort of thign would be awesome too
[20:14] <sebastian_> alguien sabe como cerrar java en mozilla?
[20:14] <funalien> 'meta package'?
[20:14] <Odd-rationale> funalien: usually that is fine. but remember that ubuntu-desktop package often puuls in many of the updates.
[20:14] <tannewt> what does ubuntu use to suspend?
[20:14] <Jckf> geekwar: Seems so =p
[20:14] <tannewt> gnome-pm -> hal -> acpi?
[20:15] <Odd-rationale> funalien: a meta-package is simply a package made to depend on several other packages.
[20:15] <gafatoa> Pelo,   OOo open PDF files ?
[20:15] <bazhang> sebastian_: portuguese?
[20:15] <funalien> Odd-rationale, ok, thanks)
[20:15] <BarryToeman> roger_that_gorax: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[20:15] <Pelo> offload, create a user with only the most minimal access
[20:15] <sebastian_> no
[20:15] <sebastian_> argentina
[20:15] <Pelo> gafatoa, I beleive so
[20:15] <sebastian_> ubuntu es?
[20:15] <bazhang> !es | sebastian_
[20:15] <ubotu> sebastian_: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[20:15] <sebastian_> ok
[20:15] <Pelo> gafatoa, or maybe it's a new featur in the next release,  I'm not sure anymore , you have me confused
[20:15] <offload> Pelo, does that disallow them access to changing even simple things like desktop wallpaper and creating icons on the desktop?
[20:15] <BarryToeman> roger_that_gorax: there is a section in that link that explains one way
[20:16] <gafatoa> Pelo, no problem, thanks !
[20:16] <macd> Pelo, I think thats hardy centric
[20:16] <boxybrown> hi im about to do a fresh install of ubuntu server and i see that hardy will be coming out soon, is the server edition stable enough to install?
[20:16] <Pelo> offload, you can select the what you want them to hve access to , mind you ,  I'm not sure you can lock it down far enough to remove even the capability to change the wallpaper
[20:17] <sebastian_> i goin to www.elchat.com... and the window no clouse. whi?
[20:17] <macd> boxybrown, are you using it in a production env? Id wait for hardy to go stable, or just use gutsy
[20:17] <Pelo> macd, I mean the new release of OOo
[20:17] <todd_> I need help with comiz.  when i type "lspci | grep VGA" in terminal, I get "00:0f.0 VGA compatible controller: VMware Inc [VMware SVGA II] PCI Display Adapter"
[20:17] <sebastian_> its java?
[20:17] <sebastian_> or mozilla?
[20:17] <boxybrown> macd no im developing a website so its not a big deal if it fails
[20:17] <macd> boxybrown, Id feel ok with hardy then
[20:17] <boxybrown> i just want to know if there are any known problems that would keep me from doing it
[20:17] <offload> Pelo, hmmm ok.  Thanks
[20:17] <macd> boxybrown, I use it for a lamp server just fine
[20:17] <hischild> todd_: vmware doesn't do hardware accelleration iirc
[20:17] <bazhang> !hardy
[20:17] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[20:17] <boxybrown> ok thats good
[20:18] <komputes> does anyone know how i can stop ubuntu from remembering if NumLk was on last session?
[20:18] <boxybrown> has anything changed as far as email server goes? ive had a million probs with it under gutsy
[20:18] <loser> can Anyone help me get the cube thing to work ?
[20:18] <Pelo> offload, check in menu > system < admin >users , see what is readily available for you to remove
[20:18] <todd_> ok, thanks.  So I need to dual boot instead of run through VMware to enable Compiz?
[20:18] <macd> boxybrown, using what MTA?
[20:18] <bazhang> !ccsm | loser
[20:18] <ubotu> loser: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[20:18] <hischild> todd_: if you're only about compiz, then yes.
[20:18] <boxybrown> all of them lol, i did an install a few weeks ago 3 times trying different ways
[20:19] <todd_> lol  compiz would be nice
[20:19] <macd> boxybrown, well, I never had any problems with gutsy, so in my book hardy would be fine as well
[20:19] <offload> Pelo, yeah I was just really hoping for something prepackaged
[20:19] <boxybrown> ok thanks
[20:20] <boxybrown> and one other question for the desktop version, i have that installed and havnt really used it, but when i tried to enable desktop effects with nvidia card i would lose the title bar in all apps, is that fixed?
[20:20] <erstazi> does anyone know what to softlink /dev/video* to?
[20:20] <ace_ace121> How to configure apt to work on proxies with authentication??
[20:20] <Pelo> offload, you can try looking up the package list of ubuntu CE (christian editon) I know there are netblockers i there and such things
[20:20]  * Pelo shivers
[20:20] <Odd-rationale> boxybrown: did you install emerald?
[20:21] <bazhang> offload dansguardian does the netnanny stuff
[20:21] <stefg> boxybrown: that's a well known and easy to fix issue ... there's one line missing in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:21] <offload> Pelo, neat.  I'd use it as long as it wasn't all crazy religious.  Maybe edubuntu has these things as well
[20:21] <macd> boxybrown, you just need to change your window decorator, something in concole like "emerald --replace &"
[20:21] <kindofabuzz> boxybrown: when that happens just do metacity --replace or --emerald --replace depending on what you have
[20:21] <boxybrown> all i did was install, enable driver, and enable desktop effects
[20:21] <boxybrown> im not sure my desktop machine is 45 minutes away
[20:21] <Pelo> offload, you don'T need to use it , you can just get ideas from the package list and install those from online deb files or from source
[20:21] <bazhang> offload and there is a firefox plugin for netnanny stuff as well
[20:21] <erstazi> offload: if CE or Edu have it, then you can get it with normal ubuntu
[20:21] <boxybrown> i was just wondering if anyone knew off hand if it would be fixed if i did an apt-get update
[20:22] <Odd-rationale> boxybrown: try this: after starting compiz do alt+f2 and type "metacity --replace" see if that works
[20:22] <boxybrown> ok thanks ill try that when i get a chance
[20:22] <macd> boxybrown, apt-get update, just updates the list of available updates, upgrade/dist-upgrade does the actual upgrade, and I think your error is just due to a badly saved session
[20:22] <boxybrown> macd ya i know
[20:22] <boxybrown> i was too lazy to type it all
[20:23] <boxybrown> ok thanks for all your advice guys
[20:23] <elventear> Hello. I have a problem, with RAID and LVM  for the /. I have a RAID my main OS system. If I boot with a degraded RAID (remove one drive, for testing) I see that the LVM on the RAID drive is not recognized. Does this happen because the RAID is degraded and won't assemble at boot time? Is there some way to go around this?
[20:24] <stefg> !raid | elventear
[20:24] <ubotu> elventear: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[20:24] <birgi> hey all, i can't find the mkinitrd tool, which package does it belong to?
[20:24] <CareBerry> hi everyone
[20:24] <stefg> birgi: that's deprecated ... use update-initramfs
[20:24] <CareBerry> im having trouble getting xchat installed on ubuntu 7.10
[20:24] <Pelo> !info mkinitrd
[20:24] <ubotu> Package mkinitrd does not exist in gutsy
[20:24] <bazhang> the info command does not work atm
[20:25] <birgi> stefg: thanks, i'll give it a try, hopefully it functions similarly
[20:25]  * Pelo curses ubotu until next tuesday 
[20:25] <CareBerry> when i try to install xchat from the add/remove softare it tells me to use synaptics, i use snaptics and it tells me i need tlc8.4 but i cannot find this program?
[20:25] <elventear> stefg: I've already seen those. The system works except when booting degraded.
[20:25] <Pelo> CareBerry, enable the extra repos
[20:26] <Pelo> !backport | CareBerry
[20:26] <ubotu> CareBerry: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[20:26] <macd> CareBerry, also make sure your installing "xchat-gnome"
[20:26] <Pelo> macd, xchat-gnome sucks
[20:26] <hawke_> hmm, why would a program in main depend on something in the extra repos?
[20:26] <CareBerry> how do i enable extra repos?
[20:26] <macd> Pelo, I dont even notice a difference other than the default menu bar being gone
[20:26] <stefg> elventear: hmmm ... a look at the syslog should give you a clue. Oh, and tell me if you found the issue, i got to set up a server soon, too, and was planning on lvm/raid
[20:26] <kindofabuzz> Pelo: i agree
[20:27] <Pelo> !repositories | CareBerry
[20:27] <ubotu> CareBerry: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[20:27] <elventear> stefg: The only solution so far I've found is not to use LVM either on /boot and /
[20:27] <elventear> The rest can be LVM
[20:27] <xFlipx> Pelo: what's wrong with xchat-gnome?
[20:27] <kindofabuzz> chatzilla! (as seperate process of course) =)
[20:27] <Pelo> CareBerry, forget that , close synaptic ,  goto menu > system > adim> softare sources ,  check everybox on the 1st and 3rd tab
[20:27] <Pelo> xFlipx, I don' Tlike the ui,  I prefer the one in xchat
[20:27] <xFlipx> ahh
[20:28] <elventear> But I want to know if I can have LVM on root. If there is a way to solve this
[20:28] <hawke_> The only problem I have with xchat-gnome is that the user list is a pain.
[20:28] <Pelo> xFlipx, I find that most ppl do
[20:28] <stefg> elventear: having /boot not lvm'd sounds quite reasonable.
[20:28] <xFlipx> haven't tried xchat-gnome - thought maybe it was a security thing
[20:28] <hawke_> but then 1301 users will be a UI problem regardless of the specifics.
[20:28] <CareBerry> thanks pelo
[20:28] <elventear> stefg: I want to know if I can boot with / on LVM
[20:28] <elventear> Well I can
[20:28] <xFlipx> wait - this is xchat gnome
[20:28] <xFlipx> wth
[20:28] <elventear> But not on degraded RAID
[20:28] <Pelo> xFlipx, try regular xchat ,  it's much nicer
[20:29] <xFlipx> does it show the user panel?
[20:29] <xFlipx> that's what's annoying me with this client
[20:29] <CareBerry> pelo do you know of a good nzb downloader for ubuntu?
[20:29] <Pelo> CareBerry,  there shoudldn't be any issues instlling regular xchat from add/remove ,  unless you messed around with something major in ubuntu , I'm able to do it from a clean install
[20:29] <Pelo> CareBerry,  I have no idea what nzb is
[20:29] <stefg> elventear: there might be some dmraid module missing in the initrd
[20:31] <brainbug_> hello i try to install ubuntu on my old pc, but i get an error when trying to mount the CD-Drive, " you installation CD-ROM couldn't be mounted" in output (f4) the system tries serveral times but keeps failing.... anyone?
[20:31] <stefg> elventear: you couLd try to make a fat initrd for a test by configuring update-initramfs simply to use all modules, not only the 'guessed' ones
[20:32] <Pelo> brainbug_,  how old is the computer ?
[20:32] <brainbug_> Pelo, year 2000 but it has run Xp home....
[20:32] <Jowi> brainbug_, sounds like a bad burn. first see if the md5sum of the iso is ok. if it is, burn at a low speed (2-4x)
[20:32] <elventear> stefg: I'll try that. I was just researching on how to do that
[20:32] <brainbug_> Jowi, no burn is ok
[20:32] <boris> hello
[20:32] <brainbug_> jowi, got it with serveral not with complete (full) cd's
[20:32] <Derek__> hey
[20:32] <boris> im not getting sound, sometimes i get sound after reboot
[20:33] <stefg> elventear: man mkinitramfs
[20:33] <Pelo> brainbug_,  I've heard of this happening before  don't remember the solution by heart,  it's probably in the forum but I think you might hav ean easier time using the alternate install cd ,    www.ubuntuforums.org
[20:33] <erstazi> does anyone know what to softlink /dev/video* to (these are the errors I get: http://pastebin.ca/971327)?
[20:33] <brainbug_> Pelo, iam using it :)
[20:33] <Pelo> brainbug_, forum then, in the installation section, I'm sure it is covered
[20:33] <brainbug_> k
[20:34] <brainbug_> Pelo, mzz they say burn at 4x ill first look some farther then try that one cause only have 4 cd's left :p
[20:34] <brainbug_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=744829
[20:35] <Pelo> brainbug_, I would recommend 1x i fyou can manage it ,  that's wat I burn my install cd at
[20:35] <ubuntu-liveee> hey guys. im trying installing ubuntu from the live CD but it gives me an error halfway through isntallation (could not copy files to hard disk). Is there a way to do this over the net?
[20:35] <stefg> elventear: oh, and there is #ubuntu-server also, which might have an answer
[20:35] <xFlipx> Pelo: installing and switching now
[20:35] <brainbug_> Pelo, k ll try it out :)
[20:35] <redips1> Hello all from Stockton ny
[20:36] <xFlipx> Pelo, YAY A User Panel!
[20:36] <brainbug_> all from belgium europe:p
[20:36] <Pelo> xFlipx, nice aint't it
[20:36] <Derek__> congrats
[20:36] <Pelo> xFlipx,  I beleive that in xchat-gnome it is just rezised to nothing by default but what ever
[20:36] <brainbug_> Pelo, 8x is lowest i can go....
[20:36] <Pelo> and on the wrong size
[20:37] <Pelo> brainbug_, hmm, what are you using to burn ?
[20:37] <Illbiteyournose> Hey, i was wondering if anyone could help me out with a BOINC installation?
[20:37] <Jowi> brainbug_, cdrw is a good invention for iso burning I discovered :)
[20:37] <brainbug_> k3b
[20:38] <brainbug_> Pelo, k3b but i can try nero (windows) but it says " medium of burner do not support writing at 1x switch to 8x"
[20:38] <Pelo> brainbug_, hmmm, odd,  gnomebaker can do to 1x or 4x depending on the situation, not sure how far nautilus burner can but anyway,  I don'T think tha tis your issue in any case
[20:38] <Derek__> Is NVIDIA geforce 8800gt supposed to be able to run with the VEGA driver?
[20:38] <Pelo> brainbug_, the cd is the issue then , not the program
[20:38] <jimqode> Xnest does not redraw correctly. I'm running it with Xnest -ac. Any ideas?
[20:38] <Jckf> Derek__: yes
[20:38] <kindofabuzz> i always get a record error with gnomebaker even though the burn was successful
[20:38] <Pelo> Derek__,  I beleive most cards work with vesa,
[20:38] <Jckf> Derek__: I have two of those, and they work under that driver. But you won
[20:38] <Jckf> 't get 3
[20:38] <Jckf> d
[20:39]  * Jckf slaps his return key
[20:39] <Derek__> I was just wondering because that's where the live cd always freezes
[20:39] <brainbug_> Pelo, good i have some luck 1 cd-r 1x compatible:p will try this in few seconds:p
[20:39] <Jckf> Derek__: Use text only mode then =)
[20:39] <Pelo> Derek__, the live cd is a problem with nvidia and ati cards
[20:39] <Pelo> Brandon_,  best of luck
[20:39] <Brandon_> ...
[20:39]  * Pelo goes to get milk and cookies
[20:39] <Derek__> how do I enable text only?
[20:39]  * Brandon_ goes back to work
[20:40] <Illbiteyournose> Does anybody know how to config BOINC?
[20:40] <Jckf> Derek__: The boot menu on the CD
[20:40] <arachnist> where can one post bug-reports? 32bit ubuntu hangs here (amd64 x2 4200+) with powernow-k8 loaded and ondemand governor, doesn't if i switch the governor to performance
[20:40] <Derek__> thank you
[20:40] <stefg> !bug | arachnist
[20:40] <ubotu> arachnist: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[20:41] <arachnist> stefg: thanks
[20:41] <xFlipx> Pelo, yeah, that and the user panel - I hated not knowing who was back or gone
[20:41] <ace_ace121> How to configure apt to work on network proxies with authentication??
[20:41] <stefg> arachnist: i'd try the nohz=off boot parameter if that is gutsy (2.6.22 kernel)
[20:41] <Pelo> ace_ace121, try looking in the forum for answers
[20:42] <arachnist> stefg: that's 8.04, with 2.6.24 kernel
[20:42] <xFlipx> lol if you launch from term then kill term xirc closes LOL
[20:42] <stefg> !hardy | arachnist
[20:42] <ubotu> arachnist: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[20:43] <xFlipx> Pelo, can you filter out /quit/join spam?
[20:43] <Pelo> xFlipx, do you have tabs enabled ?
[20:43] <Pelo> xFlipx, right click the channel tab on the bootom, , it's in there
[20:44] <xFlipx> ahh thanks
[20:46] <xFlipx> now I gotta get the backround black and text white
[20:46] <solexious> Hello all, I want to use mythtv on ubuntu, how can I check that the version of mythv in the repositorys is the new verson that came out resently?
[20:46] <Pelo> xFlipx,in the menu , settings,  parameters and such
[20:46] <xFlipx> aye
[20:46] <skarface> solexious: apt-cache show <packagename>
[20:46] <solexious> thank you
[20:47]  * Pelo just waits for scott ritchie to make the deb for the new wine , 
[20:47] <kindofabuzz> Pelo: jsut add the repos from winehq and you can have the new wine
[20:47] <yigal> I was hoping someone here uses dd-wrt wireless connection and could help me make it less likely when I turn on the microwave to kill the wireless ? :)
[20:48] <xFlipx> I use ddwrt
[20:48] <sven_> omg guys.
[20:48] <Pelo> kindofabuzz, yes, just as soon as scott ritchie makes the ubuntu package for the winehq repos
[20:48] <kindofabuzz> yigal: move the router off the microwave?
[20:48] <sven_> how hard is it to get a decent p2p app running on Gutsy?
[20:48] <xFlipx> lol
[20:48] <Pelo> sven_, www.frostwire.com , or .org
[20:48] <yigal> xFlipx: can you help me? :)
[20:48] <kindofabuzz> Pelo: you just add the repos they give you then suod apt-get install wine, bam, you got the newest version
[20:48] <solexious> Its not the current version of mythtv, how can I request for it to be upgraded?
[20:48] <sven_> i've tried limewire, but java won't install right
[20:49] <stefg> !p2p | sven_
[20:49] <ubotu> sven_: Peer-to-peer filesharing clients are available for several networks/protocols, including !BitTorrent, !Gnutella, !eDonkey, !DirectConnect, !SoulSeek - Multi-protocol engines include !MLDonkey and !giFT - See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information
[20:49] <Pelo> sven_, java sucks in any platform,
[20:49] <kindofabuzz> Pelo: works good
[20:49] <mugwort13> anyone know how I turn off public away messages in bitchx ?
[20:49] <Pelo> kindofabuzz, what works good ?
[20:49] <kindofabuzz> Pelo: the new wine from the repos
[20:49] <Pelo> mugwort13, ask in #bitchx
[20:49] <sven_> frostwire, huh?
[20:49] <sven_> trying it now...
[20:49] <Pelo> kindofabuzz, is it out ?
[20:50] <kindofabuzz> Pelo: .58? yeah
[20:50] <sven_> it installed....
[20:50] <Pelo> kindofabuzz, 0.9.59 is the very very latested and shinniest
[20:50] <sven_> but it won't run,.
[20:50] <yigal> xFlipx: it is pretty bad, when the 2.4GHz phone rings my wireless is cut
[20:50] <yigal> xFlipx: any help would be great
[20:51] <stefg> yigal: then change the cahnnel on your router
[20:51] <sven_> pelo, any ideas why it won't open?
[20:51] <Pelo> kindofabuzz, wine is release a new version every two weeks now
[20:51] <yigal> stefg: I've done this, no help yet
[20:51] <Codenut> Hello everyone
[20:51] <cmj-php> anyone got any idea why the ubuntu cd is just displaying a black screen?
[20:51] <yigal> stefg: I think I need to twist the power, noise etc. in the admin area
[20:51] <Pelo> sven_, remove your current java,  the install sun-java-6.jre , you,ll need to enable the backport repos
[20:51] <kindofabuzz> Pelo: oh ok, well still, just add the repos from http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb and you should have .59,. or wait is that what you're saying? it still only gives .58?
[20:52] <xFlipx> yigal, sure - move the router.
[20:52] <Codenut> I cannot save all my records in Evolution as backups. I want  to put them on a jump drive.
[20:52] <sven_> how do i do that, just from add/remove?
[20:52] <kindofabuzz> Pelo: yeah cause i have them but haven't been notified of an update for .59
[20:52] <xFlipx> yigal, what type of router is is?
[20:52] <Pelo> kindofabuzz, yes that is what I am saying,   the guy who makes the deb package is called scott ritchie
[20:52] <yigal> xFlipx: the router unfortunately can't be moved, because it is located where the hardwired machines are
[20:52] <xFlipx> yigal, move the microwave?
[20:52] <ghkgkyifhmghkjxg> kingkong
[20:52] <solexious> [Q]how can i request a package in the repositorys be updated?
[20:53] <yigal> xFlipx: :)
[20:53] <kindofabuzz> Pelo: oh ok, i thought you were just saying you wanted a version other than the ubuntu repos
[20:53] <xFlipx> yigal, :P
[20:53] <ompaul> !offtopic | ghkgkyifhmghkjxg
[20:53] <ubotu> ghkgkyifhmghkjxg: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[20:53] <Codenut> [Q] How can I back up my data in Evolution?
[20:53] <yigal> xFlipx: so your not familiar with tweaking dd-wrt
[20:53] <Pelo> yigal, you can'T realy,  hardy is just about to come out and packages in those repos will be the latest stable
[20:53] <yigal> Pelo: you are refering to dd-wrt?
[20:54] <Pelo> kindofabuzz, no I was just jonesing for the very latest
[20:54] <Jckf> When folloing this guide http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Playing_stereo_on_surround_sound_setup_%28Howto%29 on how to dupe a stereo signal to the rear of a surround setup, my audio becomes choppy. Any help?
[20:54] <cmj-php> can anyone help with cd problems?
[20:54] <yigal> Pelo: so you talked to the wrong man, fare
[20:54] <Pelo> yigal, I was saying general,
[20:54] <xFlipx> yigal, tweaking ddwrt won't help your problem
[20:54] <yigal> xFlipx: why not?
[20:55] <Pelo> yigal, you are corect,  my comment was directed at solexious
[20:55] <kindofabuzz> yigal: nothing you can really do i don't think other than moving the router or the microwave
[20:55] <xFlipx> yigal, because the only tweaks are for user sessions
[20:55] <kindofabuzz> yigal: maybe try another wireless channel?
[20:55] <Codenut> ttrn
[20:55] <yigal> well now the phone rings and I'm right next to the router and my wifi is dead, so it is dd-wrt
[20:55] <phs5556> newto ubuntu i am looking at mountingwindowsshares permanently and it says to run "sudo apt-get install smbfs " where and how do i do that
[20:56] <xFlipx> yeah that's the only other thing you can try
[20:56] <boris_> how do i find out what my BIOS password is ? ive got award bios
[20:56] <simplexio> phs5556: on terminal
[20:56] <Pelo> phs5556, type taht in the terminal,   menu > system < accessories > terminal
[20:56] <solexious> Pelo: Cool, thank you. Is there a set date for it?
[20:56] <xFlipx> change the password
[20:56] <Jckf> yigal: Change your WiFi's channel
[20:56] <kindofabuzz> yigal: because you have a 2.4Ghz phonmne. that will definatly interfere
[20:56] <xFlipx> err channel
[20:56] <kindofabuzz> phone*
[20:56] <Pelo> !hardy | solexious
[20:56] <ubotu> solexious: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[20:56] <yigal> no there is a way, I know it, I'm 3 ft. away from the router and it dies on me if the phone rings, there has got to be a way
[20:56] <simplexio> phs5556: or add/remove programs and add samba there
[20:56] <yigal> owell this isn't Ubuntu related
[20:56] <yigal> no worries
[20:57] <Jckf> lal
[20:57] <simplexio> phs5556: apt-get is just cmdline interface for it
[20:57] <kindofabuzz> yigal: nope, your router is on 2.4 just like your phomnne, i hade the same problem, got a 5Ghz phone and it stopped
[20:57] <simplexio> phs5556: or actualy add/remove is GUI for apt-get i think
[20:57] <kindofabuzz> damn why can't i spell phone??
[20:57] <kindofabuzz> lol
[20:57] <boris_> how do i find out what my BIOS password is ? ive got award bios
[20:58] <solexious> i prefer phomnne, sounds funnyer
[20:58] <Jckf> boris_: Reset
[20:58] <kindofabuzz> boris_ did you not set that password?
[20:58] <vlt> Hello. Which vncviewer can rescale the window to fit the client's screen size?
[20:58] <simplexio> boris_: need to clear cmos, i think to get it reset
[20:58] <kindofabuzz> boris_ take the battery out of the motherboard for a like a minute
[20:58] <kindofabuzz> boris_: it looks like a watch battery
[20:59] <kindofabuzz> well it is really
[20:59] <boris_> software based, please
[20:59] <boris_> im afraid ill screw up something
[20:59] <kindofabuzz> boris_: that's the only way
[20:59] <boris_> kindofabuzz: even if i did set up that password, i did it 2 years ago
[20:59] <simplexio> vlt: try tsclient ?
[20:59] <boris_> i dont remember it
[20:59] <boris_> kindofabuzz: ive heard of cmospwd
[21:00] <Jckf> kindofabuzz: No its not. There are several tools that will break your BIOS without any hardware tampering
[21:00] <kindofabuzz> boris_: you won't screw anything up, just ground yourself and pull out the battery
[21:00] <roeinstein> howdy, how do I change the icon on my applications panel in gnome? :)
[21:00] <Jckf> boris_: Check the tools on the ultimate boot cd
[21:00] <cmj-php> when i put the install cd in my drive i get the boot screen but when i select install the screen goes black, any ideas?
[21:00] <Pelo> roeinstein, gconf-editor ,  app > pannel > somewhere in there, yo can set the icon
[21:00] <Jckf> cmj-php: Try text mode
[21:00] <kindofabuzz> oh yeah systemrescuecd i think has a tool too. well i know it can reset windows passwords
[21:00] <cmj-php> how do you get that?
[21:00] <boris_> Jckf: what ultimate boot cd
[21:01] <Jckf> boris_: THE ultimate boot CD
[21:01] <Jckf> Goodle it
[21:01] <Jckf> *Google
[21:01] <kindofabuzz> goodle.com? =)
[21:01] <boris_> just tell me how to use cmospwd
[21:01] <Peddy> can anyone help me with this issue? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4652896#post4652896
[21:01] <Jckf> kindofabuzz ;)
[21:01] <xFlipx> godle.com searches GOD.
[21:01] <Pelo> Peddy, just give us a summary of it in here, we don'T click random links this is a busy channel
[21:01] <kindofabuzz> boris__ you gotta download something, you can't just magically do a command
[21:01] <genii> boris_: As distateful as it may seem resetting your cmos manually by jumper or battery removal is less harmful than potentially making a brick of your computer by some wrong cmos software
[21:02] <kindofabuzz> genii: i agree, but all your mother board setting will be back at default boris
[21:02] <boris_> ill try to use the CD
[21:02] <ricanelite> what is the virtual box channel?
[21:03] <kindofabuzz> i bet you have more questions using the cd then you would pulling a battery out
[21:03] <boris_> i need to use bios to disable integrated sound card
[21:03] <styrman> How do I bind 'shift window' ? ( normaly its alt + tab, its working kind of, but not when playing 3d game. )
[21:03] <TaylorEffect> If rTorrent was a woman  - I would buy it an Ice Cream Sundae
[21:03] <simplexio> boris_: still .i  recommend that you use mb reset jumper
[21:03] <Peddy> ok, I am having this problem with samba. Its either to do with authentication or port forwarding. This error is intermittently displayed when trying to connect to a windows box: NT_STATUS_ACCES_DENIED. Any ideas?
[21:03] <boris_> look i dont want to mess with hardware. about 99.9% i'll destroy something
[21:03] <Jockeo> When writing an e-mail using Evolution: When I write an e-mail address in the "To: " box, it changes into the name of the contact. How can I prevent this? I still want to see the peron's e-mail address, because I want to double check I send the mail to the persons private e-mail address and not the work e-mail address.
[21:03] <boris_> i ask my dad to put in a graphics card or anything else anyway
[21:04] <simplexio> Peddy:   NT_STATUS_ACCES_DENIED
[21:04] <simplexio> Peddy: http://lists.samba.org/archive/samba/2004-April/084886.html
[21:05] <KleRoi> hello, i'm trying to install the tcl8.5-dev and the tk8.5-dev but i get dependencies problems:
[21:05] <KleRoi>  Dipende: tcl8.5-dev but it is not going to be installed
[21:05] <KleRoi>   Dipende: tk8.5 (=8.5.0-3~gutsy1) but 8.5.0.a5-3v1ubuntu0 is to be installed
[21:05] <xFlipx> Jockeo, make two address associations and relate different names to each address
[21:05] <tbielawa> KleRoi: are you using dpkg, or apt?
[21:05] <xFlipx> I.E. "person-work" "person-personal"
[21:05] <simplexio> boris_: still, use that jumper, using some software to mess with bios leads to dead motherboard
[21:05] <KleRoi> tbielawa:  i'm using the dpkg
[21:05] <Peddy> simplexio, thanks for the link, but I've already looked there. Any other suggestions?
[21:05] <simplexio> Peddy: so that is done ?
[21:06] <tristanmike> Hi can anyone help with a network issue. My friend installed Ubuntu 7.10 on his Acer computer, but his OnBoard network adapter isn't recognized. "ifconfig -a" doesn't see it. Can anyone offer a bit of assistance ? Thanx in advance :D
[21:06] <Jockeo> xFlipx: You mean making two "contacts" for each contact that has two addresses?
[21:06] <tbielawa> KleRoi: when you use dpkg it only installs the package you've downloaded. you'll have to either use apt-get or download all the dependencies and dpkg -i to install them seperately.
[21:06] <xFlipx> yes
[21:06] <KleRoi> okay thanks tbielawa
[21:06] <Jockeo> xFlipx: ok
[21:06] <xFlipx> sorry for my cryptic english. :P
[21:07] <tristanmike> lspci lists it as "Ethernet controller Silicon Integrated Systems 191 Gigabit Ethernet adapter REV02"
[21:07] <simplexio> Peddy: used right username and password for it ?
[21:07] <Jockeo> xFlipx: no problem :)
[21:07] <simplexio> Peddy: and if samba server is linux one you need smbadduser
[21:07] <Peddy> simplexio: well, that problem was never solved, either.
[21:07] <hunter__> guys my lsusb command is not working now, can anyonehelp me pls
[21:08] <Peddy> simplexio:command not found?
[21:08] <kindofabuzz> Peddy: windows can't see the linux share? is that the problem?
[21:09] <simplexio> Peddy: i have no more idea, it worked without configuring for me :)
[21:09] <rmiloh> whats the default disk configuration utility for gnome on ubuntu
[21:09] <kindofabuzz> i know on the windows box you have to disable netbios over tcp/ip
[21:10] <bullgard4> What is the purpose of the directory /etc/pm/? It sontains the subdirectories /config.d, /power.d and /sleep.d but all three are empty.
[21:10] <bullgard4> What is the purpose of the directory /etc/pm/? It contains the subdirectories /config.d, /power.d and /sleep.d but all three are empty.
[21:10] <JanPeter> power management?
[21:11] <JanPeter> such as using low power, but if youre on a desktop comp that wouldnt be a problem
[21:11] <Peddy> simplexio: I have a router, do you? and the NT_STATUS thing is the error it gives me when trying to connect to a windows share.
[21:11] <bullgard4> JanPeter: Is poer management a purpose?
[21:11] <moppa> If i would like a script to start several programs for me when i click a single icon, how do i do that?
[21:11] <JanPeter> bullgard4: power management would for instance turn off your laptop when it gets low on power, or go into sleep mode
[21:12] <simplexio> Peddy: error tells that you dont have right to do what you are doing
[21:12] <achandrashekar> anyone know how to check the integrity of an openldap database??
[21:12] <unop__> Peddy, what the exact NT_STATUS message?
[21:12] <simplexio> Peddy: so wrong username, no right for guest etc
[21:12] <bullgard4> JanPeter: No sir. This is controlled by pm-utils.
[21:12] <exparta> alguien me puede ayudar
[21:13] <vlt> simplexio: I tried it. It's a frontend for vncviewer. How to scale the screen size there?
[21:13] <JanPeter> bullgard4: it's for suspend and sleep modes http://packages.debian.org/pm-utils
[21:13] <unop__> exparta, is that portuguese or spanish?
[21:13] <soundray> exparta: is that Portuguese or Spanish?
[21:13] <soundray> unop__: :)
[21:13] <unop__> :)
[21:13] <simplexio> vlt: i remeber tightvnc viewer from windows days wich did that rescale
[21:14] <bullgard4> unop__: That is spanish.
[21:14] <Peddy> simplexio: well, it says: http://pastebin.com/m1826f4c5
[21:14] <vlt> simplexio: On windows, yes.
[21:14] <simplexio> vlt: tightvnc viewer did that
[21:14] <unop__> !es | exparta
[21:14] <ubotu> exparta: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[21:14] <kindofabuzz> Peddy: are you getting the error on windows? or linux?
[21:14] <xFlipx> vlt, use freenx - it's far superior to vnc
[21:14] <simplexio> vlt: but spt-get didnt find that one
[21:14] <Peddy> kindofabuzz: linux
[21:14] <unop__> bullgard4, i can never tell the difference when it is written -- but when it is spoken, i can :)
[21:14] <kindofabuzz> can yousee the share?
[21:15] <kindofabuzz> Peddy: where is the share?
[21:15] <vlt> xFlipx: How can I use freenx to connect to a vncserver?
[21:15] <Peddy> kindofabuzz: on the win pc
[21:15] <xFlipx> vlt, You'd use Freenx to connect to a SSH server.
[21:15] <simplexio> Peddy: that family computer dosent allow that conenction
[21:15] <simplexio> Peddy: so go there and allow it :)
[21:15] <unop__> Peddy, i'd be inclined to say that a firewall is the cause of the problem here
[21:15] <xFlipx> It uses SSH and has a direct X term display transition
[21:16] <hunter__>  guys i installed a driver for my webcam yesterday.anyway the cam did not work and to make things miserable ubuntu is taking around 3-4 minutes to start up now. when i do lsusb on terminal its not giving any output but the flasf drives are mounted properly
[21:16] <rwycuff> xFlipx: whats the advantages over vnc with freenx
[21:16] <xFlipx> A. VNC is not encrypted.
[21:16] <exparta> alo
[21:16] <xFlipx> B. VNC is slow.
[21:16] <simplexio> vlt: i could be xtightvncviwer
[21:16] <exparta> hola a todo el mundo
[21:16] <kindofabuzz> Peddy: on the windows box go to your tcp/ip settings then advanced, then WINS and make sure the server ip is there and check enable netbios over tcp/ip
[21:16] <soundray> !en | exparta
[21:16] <exparta> soyu nuevo en linux
[21:16] <ubotu> exparta: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[21:17] <vlt> simplexio: That seems to have far less options than vnc4viewer ...
[21:17] <kindofabuzz> that's if you have wins support in your samba config
[21:17] <JanPeter> yo soy nuevo asi
[21:17] <TMcD> i have apache2 on ubuntu home server and vsftpd but when I ftp in I get root but am not allowed to move beyond the root directory, also I cannot see the files that should be there
[21:17] <xFlipx> Also, VNC ports cannot be changed in Linux
[21:17] <rwycuff> hmmm then why not just use ssh tunneling its already built into ssh and Xorg
[21:17] <vlt> xFlipx: vnc ports cannot be changed???
[21:18] <kindofabuzz> xFlipx: they can't? not even in the Xvnc.conf?
[21:18] <xFlipx> Tight VNC uses 5901
[21:18] <xFlipx> that's all it can use
[21:18] <kindofabuzz> well Xvnc
[21:18] <rwycuff> that all depends on the vnc:service you use
[21:18] <xFlipx> true
[21:18] <xFlipx> still IMO Freenx is better.
[21:18] <kindofabuzz> Xvnc you can set anyport you want i think
[21:18] <rwycuff> and yes Tight VNC can be changed if you config it
[21:18] <vlt> xFlipx: How can I use freenx to connect to a vncserver?
[21:18] <unop__> xFlipx, well, it depends on the session .. the second session uses 5902, the third, 5903, etc etc
[21:18] <xFlipx> You will connect to an SSH session. Have you setup SSH?
[21:18] <chtp> hi folks. how can i change the hostname of a running system. i changed /etc/hostname, but 'hostname --fqdn' tells me "hostname: Unknown host".
[21:18] <xFlipx> unop__, true
[21:19] <TMcD> anyone know what the problem is
[21:19] <soundray> !hostname | chtp
[21:19] <ubotu> chtp: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[21:19] <bullgard4> unop__: For me Portuguese sounds like badly spoken Spanish. But I do not know much about Portuguese and I certainly do not want to offend all the poople in Brazil and Portugal.
[21:19] <phs5556> how do i do this?thanks for the help On the command line, in the directory of .smbcredentials type
[21:19] <vlt> xFlipx: Yes, but what has ssh got to do with it?
[21:19] <xFlipx> Freenx connects to SSH
[21:19] <TMcD> i have apache2 on ubuntu home server and vsftpd but when I ftp in I get root but am not allowed to move beyond the root directory, also I cannot see the files that should be there
[21:19] <xFlipx> So don't ask how Freenx will connect to a VNC server. You'll use Freenx to connect to an SSH server.
[21:20] <vlt> xFlipx: Ok, then it's not what I'm looking for.
[21:20] <Flannel> TMcD: Allowing root to connect via ftp is a disaster waiting to happn
[21:20] <vlt> xFlipx: How can I connect to a vncserver and scale the screen to fit the client's size?
[21:21] <Slurpee-_> anytime i play an mp3 or flash youtube video.....the application crashses and goes black.  i have never gotten it to work.  any ideas?
[21:21] <|ismael|> hello,i would like know if it possible
[21:21] <unop_> vlt, thats something the vncviewer controls -- have a browse through the options your viewer has
[21:21] <TMcD> I mean I know that but at this point I just want to be able to ftp then I can secure it
[21:21] <TMcD> but thus far I cannot ftp correctly
[21:21] <xFlipx> vlt, I don't use VNC - I find Freenx to be superior. Different strokes for different folks though. :)
[21:21] <vlt> xFlipx: ok
[21:22] <ggg> anyone knows a channel where i can ask about c++ ?
[21:22] <_moro_bana_> hello everyone. does gutsy ship with an ati vcard driver
[21:22] <vlt> unop_: Couldn't find any option with a name like resize. What is it called?
[21:22] <cookie> hello guys
[21:22] <cookie> I have a problem
[21:22] <Flannel> TMcD: https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/server/C/ftp-server.html
[21:22] <Flannel> ggg: ##C++
[21:22] <pen> ggg ##c++
[21:22] <cookie> I unmounted sda1(which was my Vista parition) and remounted it under a different name
[21:22] <ggg> thanks
[21:22] <cookie> and now windows doesn't boot
[21:23] <TMcD> thanks
[21:23] <bullgard4> JanPeter: http://packages.debian.org/pm-utils tells me that lenny and sid do provide the pm-utils. But this is not the information I asked for. I am using the pm-utils successfully.
[21:23] <cookie> but on Linux...sda1 is still discoverable and usable
[21:23] <pen> cookie: what do you mean?
[21:23] <unop_> vlt, well, every viewer is different - if you can't find anything - have a browse through the documentation of that particular viewer
[21:23] <cookie> well, Windows will not boot
[21:23] <sven_> can anyone tell me why after installing java correctly frostwire still will not open?
[21:23] <cookie> but on Linux I can see and rewrite to sda1
[21:23] <evilbug> is it possible to run an .msi through wine?
[21:23] <JanPeter> bullgard4: i'm sorry, but im not sure what you're asking, i thought you wanted to know what it is
[21:23] <JanPeter> evilbug: yes
[21:23] <pen> cookie: more detail. What do you see when you boot ?
[21:23] <cookie> shit
[21:23] <cookie> I forgot
[21:23] <cookie> I will try to boot agian
[21:23] <FloodBot1> cookie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:24] <cookie> pen: brb
[21:24] <vlt> unop_: What viewer are we exactly talking about? Which viewer on Ubuntu allows me to rescale like TightVNCViewer does on windows?
[21:24] <pen> cookie: k
[21:24] <bullgard4> JanPeter: My question was: " What is the purpose of the directory /etc/pm/? It contains the subdirectories  /config.d, /power.d and /sleep.d but all three are empty."
[21:24] <bullgard4> Can this question be misunderstood?
[21:24] <JanPeter> bullgard4: have you tried showing hidden files?
[21:25] <sven_> pelo, you still there?
[21:25] <Starnestommy> bullgard4: I think that might be power management
[21:25] <JanPeter> bullgard4: and is there a reason you should worry about these folders?
[21:25] <_moro_bana_> is there any client to connet to microsoft vpn other than kpvn
[21:26] <genii> bullgard4: No such directory exists on my machine, yet power management works fine.
[21:26] <bullgard4> JanPeter: I am using mc in a configuration that shows all files , hidden ones included. I am just curious why Ubuntu provides these three empty directories.
[21:26] <phs5556> i am trying to mount windowsshares pemanently the instructions say "On the command line, in the directory of .smbcredentials type" how do i do that?
[21:26] <bullgard4> genii: My power management works fine as well.
[21:27] <unop_> bullgard4, those directories appear to contain hooks for pm-utils -- have a look here http://en.opensuse.org/Pm-utils and here http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pm-utils
[21:27] <cookie> back
[21:27] <cookie> pen: It says BOOTMGR not found
[21:27] <simplexio> vlt: 1.3.9 is latest tightvnc src versio and ubuntu one is 1.2.9
[21:27] <cookie> pen: BOOTMGR MISSING
[21:28] <rwycuff> phs5556: are u authenticating to the share or is it just open windows share
[21:28] <phs5556> just to the share
[21:28] <pen> cookie: vista?
[21:28] <keram-> where can i get linux-headers-2.6.21.1?
[21:28] <cookie> pen: Yes. can't wait to get a desktop so I can move my whole shit over to ubuntu
[21:28] <rwycuff> then you can just add it to your /etc/fstab file
[21:28] <unop_> keram-, try  sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.21.1
[21:29] <phs5556> ok ill try
[21:29] <pen> cookie do you have your vista dvd at hand?
[21:29] <cookie> pen: let me check
[21:29] <pen> cookie you can try using vista repair service to repair
[21:29] <JanPeter> bullgard4: do you have a folder /usr/lib/pm-utils/  ?
[21:29] <pen> cookie with  the DVD
[21:29] <sven_> anyone here running gutsy gibbon?
[21:29] <keram-> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "linux-headers-2.6.21.1"
[21:29] <pen> cookie and if you can't boot to ubuntu anymore after the fix
[21:30] <rwycuff> sven_ : im running at home
[21:30] <pen> cookie insert ubuntu cd and install grub again
[21:30] <sven_> rwycuff, do you have frostwire?
[21:30] <cookie> pen: Fuck.....
[21:30] <unop_> keram-, what does this command report for you?  uname -r
[21:30] <bullgard4> unop_: Ah, excellent! Yes you are right, an adminstrator can fill them if not satisfied with the default version of the pm-utilities. Thank you very much.
[21:30] <cookie> pen: I have vista CD...I should do repair?
[21:30] <ompaul> !language | cookie (please)
[21:30] <ubotu> cookie (please): Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[21:30] <ryanakca> How can I chroot into a directory?
[21:30] <rwycuff> sven_:nope but what problem are you having with it
[21:30] <pen> cookie you can use the repair option provided in vista DVD
[21:30] <keram-> unop_, 2.6.22.14-generic
[21:31] <impulze> um what can i do if xorg always finds the wrong irq for my video card?
[21:31] <Peddy> kindofabuzz: I've done that
[21:31] <cookie> pen: I am afraid to risk losing ubuntu
[21:31] <ompaul> !grub | cookie
[21:31] <ubotu> cookie: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[21:31] <iyo> hi, I`ve got a problem with my disk and ubuntu 7.10 - computer freezes once a 5 minutes for 30 seconds and after that everything is all right. I used gentoo on the same computer and it went without freezing. I found out that I should upgrade my  kernel as possible as I can to solve this problem. How can I install the newest kerenl?
[21:31] <pen> cookie no you won't
[21:31] <pen> cookie temporarily
[21:31] <bullgard4> sven_: me.
[21:31] <rwycuff> ryanakca: chroot /path/to /dir /bin/bash
[21:31] <unop_> keram-, you should just be able to do this to get the kernel headers.  sudo apt-get install kernel-headers
[21:31] <pen> cookie btw, do you have ubuntu cd at hand?
[21:31] <cookie> Yes
[21:31] <pen> cookie I can give you the site for installing grub from ubuntu live cd
[21:31] <JanPeter> bullgard4: thats what i was telling you, its a temp folder to place in settings for power management, susped, etc
[21:31] <cookie> no...I have ubuntu 7.04 at hand
[21:31] <cookie> and I am using 7.10
[21:32] <unop_> bullgard4, errm, i wouldnt say that, it so you can put scripts in there that are called when pm-utils commits actions for power management, hibernation, etc .. so they are called in addition to pm-util's own scripts, so you can perhaps tweak those processes
[21:32] <bullgard4> JanPeter: I am sorry but your statement was not defintive enough to understand it like this.
[21:32] <cookie> pen: has grub changed from 7.04 to 7.10
[21:32] <cookie> ?
[21:32] <pen> cookie grub is always the same
[21:32] <keram-> unop_, it says no candidate version found for linux-kernel-headers, kernel-headers, and kernel-headers-2.6
[21:32] <pen> cookie unless specified.
[21:32] <rwycuff> cookie:what was your issue with grub
[21:32] <bullgard4> unop_: I agree fully.
[21:33] <cookie> pen: I need to fix my windows but I am afraid that it will mess up grub
[21:33] <pen> cookie then use ubuntu live cd
[21:33] <unop_> keram-, maybe this then -- sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic
[21:33] <pen> cookie it will restore back to original
[21:33] <pen> cookie since you didn't modify your menu.lst
[21:33] <unop_> keram-, if that doesn't work -- make sure you run this. sudo apt-get update   .. and then try again
[21:33] <pen> cookie everything will be the same as before after you install grub frmo live cd
[21:33] <cookie> how do I install grub only from livecd without loosing anything in ubuntu
[21:34] <keram-> unop_, i updated just a few seconds ago, didnt fix anything
[21:34] <pen> hold on
[21:34] <sroojman> does anyone know how to access the root account?
[21:34] <cookie> k
[21:34] <cookie> sroojman: yes
[21:34] <cookie> sroojman: use su
[21:34] <cookie> and type root password
[21:34] <Starnestommy> !root
[21:34] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[21:34] <keram-> unop_, i will install 2.6.22-14 though and come back
[21:34] <Eltornado> hi all
[21:34] <sroojman> correct, but how do i access it directly
[21:34] <sroojman> like i want to log into root
[21:34] <ompaul> !supportroot | cookie
[21:34] <ubotu> cookie: We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-)
[21:34] <unop_> keram-, well, the pacakge definitely exists - http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic&searchon=names&suite=gutsy&section=all
[21:34] <rwycuff> cookie:google supergrub live cd and give that a try it has lots of nice tools in it for fixing but on linux windows and grub all in one cd
[21:35] <ompaul> sroojman, read that link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[21:35] <pen> cookie Now to reinstall GRUB. Open up Terminal (Applications, Accessories, Terminal) and type in:
[21:35] <pen> sudo grub
[21:35] <pen> oops
[21:35] <unop_> sroojman, you do not need a root password -- simply use sudo -s  to get a root shell
[21:35] <cookie> sudo apt get install grub?
[21:35] <Eltornado> got a problem with ubuntu after the gdm authetification i got only the mouse cursor and the background nolthing else i can only move the mouse cursor  anyhep hw to recover the gnome interface ?
[21:35] <pen> cookie http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_linux_and_windows_xp_linux_installed_first.htm
[21:35] <pen> start with the line I just type
[21:36] <pen> cookie start with the line I just type
[21:36] <sroojman> correct, but i want to go gedit under root
[21:36] <sroojman> and that wouldn't let me save it
[21:36] <N1ghtCrawler> can I post a really long question here?
[21:36] <Starnestommy> sroojman: gksudo gedit
[21:36] <unop_> sroojman, then run the command like this .  gksudo gedit
[21:36] <sroojman> ok and that should let me save changes?
[21:36] <cookie> so I start grub with sudo and hen what?
[21:36] <Starnestommy> sroojman: yes
[21:36] <ompaul> sroojman, it better
[21:36] <unop_> sroojman, right
[21:36] <sroojman> awsome thanks guys
[21:36] <pen> cookie it's very straight foward, you can install grub anytime and anywhere with your live cd following the instruction.
[21:37] <N1ghtCrawler> Hello, I am working on a multiboot cd to have de option to install multiple OSes from the same cd/dvd. Currently I am testing with debian and Ubuntu (alternate) on the cd. I have managed to start the installer but when it's about to mount the cd it fails. I think its becaus I have changed the catalog strukture on the cd, istead of having the content of ubuntu install cd on the cdroot, I have it  in /ubuntu
[21:37] <N1ghtCrawler> Does anyone knows how to make this work or have any hint whats going wrong?
[21:37] <N1ghtCrawler> I have not been able to mount the initrd.gz to look how it's looking there. When I user "mount -t ext2" i get "bad superblock" or something like that. Is it anything worth to see in there that can help my problem?
[21:37] <_moro_bana_> is there any client to connet to microsoft vpn other than kpvn
[21:37] <Computer|Nerd> Ok, anyone here know how to get Photoshop CS3 on Ubuntu?
[21:37] <kaje1> Will the upgrade path from 8.04 BETA to 8.04 production be pretty painless or will it require a fresh reinstall?
[21:37] <Computer|Nerd> PLEASE!
[21:38] <Starnestommy> Computer|Nerd: use wine
[21:38] <kindofabuzz> use gimp?
[21:38] <unop_> kaje1, head to #ubuntu+1 please, thanks
[21:38] <Computer|Nerd> Starnestommy it doesn't work!!
[21:38] <kaje1> k, thanks
[21:38] <Slart> Computer|Nerd: ask in #winehq instead.. they might have an answer for you
[21:38] <Computer|Nerd> kindofabuzz I would, but it just isn't the same
[21:39] <Slart> Computer|Nerd: if it doesn't work in wine... then I'd say you won't be able to use it.. a emulation, virtual os might be a bit slow
[21:39] <Starnestommy> Computer|Nerd: what about cedega?
[21:40] <qos_> hey guys. i tested the rotating (xrandr -o left) possibilities of my laptop and now the screen becomes black after the login. does somebody know how to solve this?
[21:40] <akatsuki> hello i have a problem, when i open termina, firefox and most applications... they open from my left side of the monitor.. then menu disapear and im not able
[21:40] <akatsuki> to open anything at the same time
[21:40] <akatsuki> i have to quit the program to open something else
[21:40] <akatsuki> thats weird.. never happen to me before
[21:40] <rwycuff> yes the gimp isnt the same it Better!
[21:41] <sroojman> awsome thanks
[21:41] <rwycuff> Computer|Nerd:Just run installer in wine under a windows 2000 bottle
[21:41] <sroojman> have any of you done QT development in ubuntu
[21:41] <Jowi> qos_, can you log into safe mode/single user?
[21:41] <rwycuff> not me
[21:41] <kindofabuzz> XP is now default on wine
[21:42] <_moro_bana_> i have come across this during the relase of gutsy somewhere- after a fresh install, it stucks during installing of packs using synaptic or apt .how do i work around this problem/
[21:42] <rwycuff> oh it is nice
[21:42] <solexious> [Q] Ive got a cronjob on my server running apt-get upgrade and update, this wont upgrade my distro when Hheron comes out will it?
[21:42] <qos_> Jowi, i am logged in via ssh
[21:42] <Jowi> qos_, you can try "sudo xrandr -o normal"
[21:42] <Computer|Nerd> rwycuff, I read online that wine does its best to emulate CS3, but for some reason just shows like an HTML or some kind of image of the program....
[21:42] <akatsuki> hello can someone help me... the - x symbols that are usually on the top right of every window.. just disapear! and i cant close now with just 1 click
[21:42] <akatsuki> why is this
[21:42] <rwycuff> _moro_bana_: try apt-get install -f
[21:43] <pirate_Hunter> hi just deleted my ext3 bckup partition and now it shows unnalocated o_0, how can I bring it back I dont want to lose my data in it?
[21:43] <qos_> Jowi, i tried but the commands gets executed on my own computer not on the laptop
[21:43] <rwycuff> Computer|Nerd : you can look up codeweavers and try thier demo and see if it does any better in thier wine but other then you are stuck with that or installing windoze
[21:44] <akatsuki> hello can someone help me... the - x symbols that are usually on the top right of every window.. just disapear! and i cant close now with just 1 click
[21:44] <Jowi> qos_, do you use -X with ssh?
[21:44] <joakim`> pirate_Hunter, unallocated means that its "empty", but its not really empty until its overwritten
[21:44] <qos_> Jowi, now... i will try ^^
[21:44] <rwycuff> pirate_Hunter:if you deleted the partition its gone
[21:44] <joakim`> so you can probably get it back using some data recovery tool
[21:44] <joakim`> rwycuff, no, you dont "delete" a partition, you delete the data about information being there
[21:44] <akatsuki> hello can someone help me... the - x symbols that are usually on the top right of every window.. just disapear! and i cant close now with just 1 click
[21:45] <qos_> Jowi, still nothing
[21:45]  * RedHeron hunts the hunter.
[21:45] <Slart> pirate_Hunter:  try testdisk.. I think it can recover this for you.. but don't do anything with the disk before reading up properly on what you're doing..
[21:45] <Starnestommy> akatsuki: are you using compiz?
[21:45] <pirate_Hunter> rwycuff: hmmm the data is still there but the file system has been erased isnt there any way to retrieve it?
[21:45] <solexious> [Q] Ive got a cronjob on my server running apt-get upgrade and update, this wont upgrade my distro when Hheron comes out will it?
[21:45] <IndyGunFreak> pirate_Hunter: so one has to wonder, why did you delete the partition, if you didn't want to lose the data on it.
[21:45] <joakim`> so the disk thinks its empty space, but its just allowed to overwrite it
[21:45] <akatsuki> starnestommy.. not at all i actually desinstall compiz becausei dont use it
[21:45] <Slart> pirate_Hunter: right now you have a chance of saving that data.. but if you do something bad..it might be gone forever
[21:45] <alyxander> hey guys smb share issue
[21:45] <rwycuff> joakim`: so then why not do mke2fs -j on partiotn and bring it back
[21:46] <Slart> !info testdisk
[21:46] <pirate_Hunter> Slart: testdisk you say will do so I thought i could recover with the liveCD but dont know the commands?
[21:46] <Jowi> qos_, try to boot into single user/rescue mode.
[21:46] <ubotu> testdisk (source: testdisk): Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.6-1 (gutsy), package size 668 kB, installed size 2624 kB
[21:46] <Starnestommy> akatsuki: try running this in a terminal if you're using gnome: metacity --replace
[21:46] <akatsuki> thx
[21:46] <akatsuki> as root?
[21:46] <Starnestommy> akatsuki: no, as yourself.
[21:46] <qos_> Jowi, how?
[21:46] <amenado> wow 8gig usb pendrive pny optima pro for 25 dolares at frys today only...
[21:46] <rwycuff> pirate_Hunter:if the physical data block is still there then may have to use recovery software like joakim suggested
[21:47] <Slart> pirate_Hunter: I don't think using the live cd will help you much.. but I've only used testdisk for some easy stuff.. my advice is.. read up on this.. read the manual pages.. talk to someone who knows what he/she's talking about
[21:47] <akatsuki> thx a lot Starnestommy!
[21:47] <akatsuki> is working now
[21:47] <prodigel> Hi all. Sorry to disturb
[21:47] <Jowi> qos_, reboot. select rescue (sometimes called singe user) in the grub boot menu.
[21:47] <akatsuki> why this happen?
[21:47] <akatsuki> imao
[21:47] <joakim`> pirate_Hunter, you can also check out www.ontrackdatarecovery.com
[21:47] <yuri_> Q: how do i add a folder to my PATH ?
[21:47] <joakim`> think they have some free sw that might support ext3
[21:47] <Jowi> qos_, if you get a message "press ESC to see boot menu" you press ESC before the OS boots to see the menu.
[21:47] <Submoose> Anyone here using a Lenovo 3000 N100?
[21:47] <solexious> !ask | alyxander
[21:47] <ubotu> alyxander: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[21:47] <Starnestommy> akatsuki: btw, I think that command may need to be 'metacity --replace & disown'.  It was probably caused by the window manager crashing
[21:48] <alyxander> I have 7.10 64 bit and a WD mybook that a 1tb ive modified the fstab to auto mount the share on the system but it only mounts with read write access for my user. the other user on the system cannot write and it automaticlly changes the mount folder to me being the owner even if the user creates the folder
[21:48] <pirate_Hunter> Slart: will do so it was a stupid accident in XP, I confused it for my usb when i was using "disk manager" :(
[21:48] <akatsuki> all right but its working now
[21:48] <akatsuki> do you want me to type that anyway?
[21:48] <alyxander> and i was asking it was just trying to figre out how to word it without confising people lol
[21:48] <prodigel> I want a link for ip masquerading for a second computer linked in my lan. I know it's something simple but now I just cannot find it and I'm in a hurry. thanks
[21:48] <alyxander> solexious:
[21:48] <solexious> alyxander: cool :)
[21:48] <dabang> yuri: export PATH=$PATH:/add/path:/add/another/path
[21:48] <Starnestommy> akatsuki: run that command if the problems start again when closing the terminal
[21:48] <maestrojed> This is probably as much a linux question as an unbuntu question but I have an unbuntu box as part of my local network.  I want to be able to shell into it.  How can I set that up?
[21:49] <yuri_> dabang: thanks!
[21:49] <rwycuff> pirate_Hunter: my suggestion for data recovery is bit out of place here and im not found of it but i you got xp or 2k3 install disk around look up bartPE and its plugins
[21:49] <dabang> your're welcome
[21:49] <akatsuki> ok thx
[21:49] <c0ldfusion> maestrojed, ssh is always nice
[21:49] <rwycuff> SSH is the best thing sence sliced bread
[21:49] <amenado> maestrojed->  install sshd on it
[21:49] <akatsuki> Satarnestommy one last question.. there was a easy search function for all my files and programs. on the right top.. is not there anymore :(
[21:49] <Slart> pirate_Hunter: it happens... if you're lucky you'll get it all back in one piece
[21:50] <PeterFA> I have a partition layout with data I don't to lose with /home on it's own partition. Can I install Ubuntu without trashing /home?
[21:50] <akatsuki> how can i recover that function since i use to like it
[21:50] <pirate_Hunter> rwycuff: are you telling me those can retrieve data from an ext3 filesystem or should I say a partition without a filesystem anymore
[21:50] <solexious> alyxander: is it the real location that looses the acsess or the location that mounts it over the network?
[21:50] <maestrojed> amenado: ok dpes that come on the std ubuntu build or do I need to go get it?
[21:50] <c0ldfusion> maestrojed, apt-get install ssh
[21:50] <amenado> PeterFA-> yes..choose manual install and dont choose to format your old /home
[21:50] <maestrojed> c0ldfusion: sweet thanks
[21:51] <rwycuff> pirate_hunter:ill say this if yuo search the web there is enough plugins to do just about anything you want
[21:51] <PeterFA> amenado, that's what I was hoping someone would say, thanks.
[21:51] <amenado> maestrojed-> you may have to download the package
[21:51] <sk8ball> Is it very difficult to install XP or Vista on the 2nd partition of a hdd that already has GRUB/Ubuntu installed on the first?
[21:51] <alyxander> solexious: once it mounts it changes the read permission. i can smb to the share just fine and do what ever i want but once it mounts to the machine it changes
[21:51] <PeterFA> amenado, I'm on Arch and I hate it.
[21:51] <maestrojed> amenado: ok will do
[21:51] <maestrojed> amenado: thank you
[21:51] <amenado> maestrojed-> you're welcome
[21:51] <Starnestommy> akatsuki: right click on panel, select "add to panel", select "deskbar", then click "add"
[21:51] <rwycuff> pirate_Hunter:i did full linux p2v convertion with some of that stuff including the lvm partition
[21:51] <PeterFA> 87% downloaded ^^;
[21:51] <pirate_Hunter> rwycuff: yeha youre right i should stop being rhesterical, calm down and go search thanx
[21:52] <solexious> alyxander: Have you checked the permissions of the folder you are mounting to? Possibly the folder is root chmod'd
[21:52] <akatsuki> Starnestommy thx a lot again thats was easy
[21:53] <rwycuff> pirate_Hunter:not being some one thats saying to go search Mr google just that i aint got time or i would grab the links for you but just saying its there there is tool in there to even copy bit for bit if yuo need
[21:53] <akatsuki> well g2g now
[21:53] <alyxander> solexious: that crossed my mind but chmodding the folder tells me i dont have permission even as root lol did i mention its on a NAS?
[21:53] <solexious> alyxander: bum, had the same problem with samba and that was the cause...
[21:53] <Titanium2204> yo ?
[21:53] <amenado> alyxander-> doesnt an NAS have some kind of management tool? which host controls that?
[21:54] <pirate_Hunter> rwycuff: np :D
[21:54] <alyxander> amenado: yeah and its set to allow write access to all
[21:54] <solexious> [Q] Ive got a cronjob on my server running apt-get upgrade and update, this wont upgrade my distro when Hheron comes out will it?
[21:54] <rwycuff> pirate_Hunter:but when you get the stuff u looking for let me know ill help as much as i can
[21:55] <amenado> alyxander-> and which system controls that resource manager?
[21:55] <Starnestommy> solexious: I don't think so.
[21:56] <alyxander> amenado: what do you mean? the NAS has built in management
[21:57] <Manichean> heya guys
[21:57] <Manichean> im the new kid on the block, anyone got some time to help me out a bit ?
[21:57] <amenado> alyxander-> okay, so anyone in the subnet it is connected on can outright just read+write to it?
[21:58] <alyxander> amenado: yuppers
[21:58] <amenado> alyxander-> what file system does it support?
[21:58] <alyxander> amenado: you mean whats loaded on it?ntfs
[21:59] <goo> Hello. I have a D-Link System Inc DGE-528T (lspci -n: 1186:4300) that does not want to work in Gutsy with the r8169 kernel module. It shows up in dmesg, but I am unable to use ifconfig on it. I have been googling all night, and even compiled the latest 2.6.24.4 kernel. But it still does not work. Anyone has any ideas?
[21:59] <amenado> alyxander-> okay
[22:01] <Manichean> is there anyway to get ubuntu to recognise my sis m650 graphics card in my old laptop. I have downloaded the graphical installer of ubuntu but I cannot see the install screen after ubuntu boots because im assuming my card is not supported, I have heard it is possible to get the alternate (text based) installer of ubuntu, but im new to linux and think this is out my field of expertise, is there anyone that can give me a h
[22:02] <alyxander> amenado: any ideas
[22:02] <cybercyst> 1
[22:02] <amenado> goo none of the drivers in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ubuntu/wireless would work?
[22:02] <alyxander> its functioning correctly until another user on the system tries to mount it
[22:02] <PeterFA> Gah, I accidentally deleted the ISO.
[22:02] <commander-ape> hi. i am having a problem with the english language. i stumpled over the sentence "The group go to Rome to track down and shoot their first target" . isnt it "The group goes to Rome...". Is there a native speaker onboard?
[22:03] <goo> amenado: this is a copper gigabit nic
[22:03] <amenado> alyxander-> i dont quite fully understand how NAS work yet,
[22:03] <Jowi> goo, go here and follow the instructions to see if there is a driver to load for that thing: http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
[22:03] <Starnestommy> commander-ape: try asking in ##english
[22:03] <alyxander> amenado: well its a firmware based hardrive with a NIC card lol
[22:04] <amenado> alyxander-> what happens when you mount it as user root?
[22:05] <goo> Jowi: Great site. But it states the r8169 driver should work, which it does not really do, unfortunately.
[22:06] <alyxander> amenado: its mounting from the fstab
[22:07] <prodigel> I'm having trouble with masquerading from one computer to another. I have a script that used to function well, just that now computer roles has reversed. Can someone please help me 'debug' this thing?
[22:07] <amenado> alyxander-> what if you mount it manually? what happens?
[22:07]  * g4tv goes to aolradio.com
[22:07] <alyxander> havent tried hang on
[22:08] <amenado> prodigel-> you have an iptables rules? paste it in pastebin?
[22:09] <amenado> goo none of the drivers in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ubuntu/net   would work?
[22:09] <prodigel> amenadeo: http://pastebin.com/m2f9aa203
[22:09] <prodigel> amenado: http://pastebin.com/m2f9aa203
[22:09] <Jowi> goo if you "sudo modprobe r8169 eth1" does it show in ifconfig?
[22:10] <amenado> prodigel-> now describe your network layout, which interface is which? ip address assigned to them?  maybe a drawing will help..
[22:10] <Lifeisfunny> What happens if I install the gnome desktop over the Ubuntu-desktop?
[22:10] <goo> Jowi: [ 1601.203994] r8169: Unknown parameter `eth1'
[22:11] <simplexio> Lifeisfunny: far as i know ubuntu desktop is gnome-desktop
[22:11] <Jowi> goo, ..and if you omit eth1?
[22:11] <sergevn_> wie heeft er hier ervaring met evolution en certificaten
[22:11] <frostburn> speaking of iptables, how do i stop iptables?
[22:11] <simplexio> sergevn_: wii spiik inglish
[22:12] <Lifeisfunny> simplexio, Iv'e got gnome in my synaptic package manager unchecked and I know I'm not running KDE or XFCE
[22:12] <amenado> frostburn-> you dont really, you jus flush the rulez
[22:12] <prodigel> amenado: here it goes: wireless router:192.168.1.1 linked to cable modem, functioning; ra0 - wireless card on laptop takes ip from wireless router, works well(I'm using it now :D) eth0 (on on laptop) ip 192.168.2.3.
[22:12] <simplexio> Lifeisfunny: but it is gnome
[22:12] <prodigel> amenado: It's harder to make a drawing that fast ...
[22:12] <goo> Jowi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62151/
[22:12] <Lifeisfunny> simplexio, check yours
[22:13] <simplexio> Lifeisfunny: ubuntu = gnome, kubuntu = kde , xubuntu? = xfce
[22:13] <goo> Jowi: it seems correct in dmesg, but ifconfig does not like it much
[22:13]  * peace53 says brb i feel a crap coming
[22:13] <rmiloh> simplexio server releases use gnome by default too?
[22:13] <amenado> prodigel-> from what you just described i dont recognize the matching interfaces per your paste.. which device is acting as gateway (to forward) ?
[22:13] <Lifeisfunny> simplexio, yeah, I know but the 'gnome' entry is waiting to be installed  :/
[22:13] <c0ldfusion> peace53: thanks for that
[22:14] <amenado> prodigel describe your network layout, what host do you have connected to which, and which interfaces and ip addresses
[22:14] <alyxander> amenado: same thing
[22:14] <prodigel> amenado: one moment, I'll make a drawing
[22:14] <paule118> Ja, Proleten
[22:14] <xFlipx> prodigel, 192.168.1.x is a different subnet than 192.168.2
[22:14] <matt____> binarical-app: hey buddy....just wondering...when i am trying to setup the 360mediaserver...i have to go to 127.0.0.1:7000 to set it up. However, my firefox isn't exaclty "working" with it. "
[22:15] <matt____> binarical-app: hey buddy....just wondering...when i am trying to setup the 360mediaserver...i have to go to 127.0.0.1:7000 to set it up. However, my firefox isn't exaclty "working" with it. "        This XML file does not appear to have any style information associated with it. The document tree is shown below.
[22:15] <amenado> alyxander-> what command did you use to mount? and then what happens to the user? just cant write? can you then paste your mount  results?
[22:15] <matt____>       binarical-app no clue what that was there twice...
[22:15] <Jowi> goo, "iface eth1 inet dhcp"
[22:15] <goo> Jowi: then reboot?
[22:15] <matt____> binarical-app: nevermind, i was using the wrong path...
[22:15] <alyxander> amenado: the command it sudo mount -t \\192.168.1.106\PUBLIC\share \home\<username>\share
[22:16] <Jowi> goo, sorry. add it to /etc/network/interfaces similar to the eth0 one. then reboot. cross fingers.
[22:16] <alyxander> amenado: and it mounts fine the user just cannot write to it
[22:16] <goo> Jowi: I already had a static entry in there, but I'll give it a shot :)
[22:16] <prodigel> xFlipx: yes it is, there are 2 different networks
[22:16] <amenado> alyxander you have a ntfs after -t ?
[22:16] <chent> Hi there... Does anyone here know if it is possible to configure hard disk mirroring after installation?
[22:17] <alyxander> no smbfs
[22:17] <alyxander> amenado:
[22:17] <prodigel> xFlipx: from wireless router to laptop one ip class 192.168.1.x
[22:17] <prodigel> from laptop to desk cable network 192.168.2.x class
[22:17] <Jowi> goo, crackers, cheese and beer time. bbl :)
[22:17] <julio_neto> What's server list to add to aMule?
[22:17] <xFlipx> why wouldn't you keep them on the same network?
[22:17] <xFlipx> maybe I'm jumping in late
[22:17] <julio_neto> http://ocbmaurice.dyns.net/pl/slist.pl?download/server-best.met <<< This dosen't work
[22:18] <prodigel> xFlipx: because my router is far and I cannot link it with a cable
[22:18] <prodigel> xFlipx: and my desktop computer wireless network card has no drivers ... yet
[22:18] <goo> Jowi: Mmmmm.... beeer. Have one for me as well :)
[22:18] <prodigel> xFlipx: that's why I want to make it work thourgh cable
[22:18] <rwycuff> julio_neto:eMule is pretty slow why you using that
[22:18] <julio_neto> rwycuff, What's I soposed to use?
[22:18] <xFlipx> even if the wireless is distant you should be able to have wireless and wired on the same network
[22:19] <amenado> alyxander-> seems okay, i am of idea at the moment
[22:19] <goo> Jowi: No cigar, btw.
[22:19] <alyxander> lol amenado me too
[22:19] <amenado> out*
[22:19] <rwycuff> julio_neto:now that all depends on what you usingit for but for p2p bittorrent would be far better then emule
[22:19] <amenado> i cant even type..
[22:19] <xFlipx> I'm clearly missing something simple in what you're trying to do
[22:19] <prodigel> xFlipx: this configuration worked well before, just it was the other way
[22:19] <julio_neto> rwycuff, sure, but...
[22:19] <xFlipx> are you using ddwrt?
[22:19] <xFlipx> for your router?
[22:19] <julio_neto> rwycuff, I want to down musics
[22:20] <prodigel> xFlipx: ddwrt?
[22:20] <amenado> prodigel-> just work on that drawing for us to get the big picture
[22:20] <julio_neto> rwycuff, there is no a lot in torrent
[22:20] <prodigel> amenado: :D I don't know how to draw
[22:20] <paule118> http://www.gulli.com/chat/webchat/
[22:20] <Lifeisfunny> julio_neto, I'd use deluge    I think it's the best
[22:20] <prodigel> amenado: I tried with gimp, just gave up
[22:20] <alyxander> amenado: its working fine for my user but the other user is the one thats not going to be able to dl new music to the share lol
[22:20] <xFlipx> prodigel, I believe that is the only router firmware that would allow different subnets between wired and wireless
[22:20] <prodigel> amenado: a better tool for drawing?
[22:20] <angelookdown> how do i change the number of columns and rows of text in tty1?
[22:20] <rwycuff> julio_neto:yuo not looking in right places then its there
[22:20] <amenado> prodigel just boxes and lines..  dia  is  a drawing package..
[22:20] <julio_neto> Lifeisfunny, of course, tks. I'll try qbittorrent
[22:20] <prodigel> dia ... right!
[22:21] <julio_neto> ok..
[22:21] <rwycuff> i like the azuerous client best
[22:21] <julio_neto> i'll install Frostwire
[22:21] <julio_neto> May it's work
[22:21] <xFlipx> best usenet client for linux? GO!
[22:21] <julio_neto> *may be
[22:22] <rwycuff> julio_neto: frostwire network pry not gonna be all that friendly with some isp's
[22:22] <xFlipx> prodigel, I re-read what you typed - I get it now
[22:22] <binarical-app> im looking for the "it works" file location in a lamp server. the "it works" is drawn from the default page on php at correct port forwarding
[22:22] <prodigel> xFlipx: Glad
[22:22]  * Pelo wonders what time it is in the uk now,... ahh if only gnome 2.20 had an internationalclock like the one in the forthcomming hardy 
[22:22] <julio_neto> rwycuff, with me it's work fine
[22:23] <prodigel> xFlipx: more details if needed gladly
[22:23] <johnny2008> is the new Ubuntu out today?
[22:23] <ikonia> Pelo: 22:23
[22:23] <Pelo> ikonia, thanks
[22:23] <xFlipx> prodigel, all you're trying to accomplish is making the wireless card work on your desktop?
[22:23] <johnny2008> Latest Ubuntu released today???
[22:23] <rwycuff> johnny2008:i dont think its out till like the 20th
[22:23] <amenado> xFlipx-> umm most AP actually can do two diff subnets between wired and wireless, ie to isp 69.131.x.x ; lan side 192.168.1.x ; wireless 192.168.1.x.. three diff subnet range maybe?
[22:23] <prodigel> xFlipx: yes!
[22:23] <saud> hi
[22:23] <ikonia> johnny2008: no
[22:23] <Pelo> johnny2008, the 24th
[22:23] <johnny2008> rwycuff: u 100% sure?
[22:23] <ikonia> johnny2008: yes
[22:24] <Lifeisfunny> johnny2008, check     www.ubuntu.com
[22:24] <xFlipx> amenado, that is true but on two different interfaces - LAN and WAN.
[22:24] <saud> how can i play .3gp in ubuntu?
[22:24] <prodigel> xFlipx: maybe my english is bad...
[22:24] <xFlipx> prodigel, nope I've got you now
[22:24] <Pelo> ikonia,  right now it's only the beta
[22:24] <johnny2008> we have to wait 3 more weeks for latest Ubuntu?  how dare they make us wait? :)
[22:24] <rwycuff> johnny2008 24th like they said sounds right
[22:24] <paule118> http://www.gulli.com/
[22:24] <ikonia> Pelo: yes, I knw
[22:24] <ikonia> now
[22:24] <ikonia> know
[22:24] <xFlipx> so when you ifconfig you don't see the ethernet adaptor?
[22:24] <ikonia> Pelo: I agreed with your date
[22:24] <Pelo> johnny2008, if I were you I 'd go back to windows , only 7 years between releases
[22:25] <binarical-app> im looking for the "it works" file location in a lamp server. the "it works" is drawn from the default page on php at correct port forwarding. i would like to be able to manually edit this file, to possibly start configuring its "backend".......anyone ?
[22:25] <Pelo> binarical-app, google it
[22:25] <Lifeisfunny> I wonder if 8.04 is pre-released in a Linux mag someone might pick up at a computer store
[22:25] <cookie> how can I sync my ipod touch with linux without using ssh
[22:25] <Pelo> Lifeisfunny, unlikely
[22:25] <cookie> I just want to transfer my music to it
[22:26] <unop_> cookie, you can use gtkpod
[22:26] <cookie> not for ipod touch
[22:26] <unop_> cookie, errm, sure, why not?
[22:26] <Pelo> cookie, can't you just mount it as a drive ?
[22:26] <cookie> well, it doesn't work with ipod touch
[22:26] <Pelo> cookie, check the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[22:27] <Dodger73> hi all
[22:27] <peace53> back
[22:27] <binarical-app> thanks for the google suggestion pelo, however i need to know what the file is called , and not what it contains
[22:27] <unop_> cookie, well, it does but requires a newer version of libgpod .. add this line to your sources.list  "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ipod-touch/ubuntu gutsy main"  .. and then reinstall gtkpod
[22:27] <xFlipx> prodigel, is that true? When you ifconfig you don't see the adaptor?
[22:27] <johnny2008> Pelo: whats windows?
[22:27] <HorizonXP> hey, is there a program that will let me generate random passwords to use in places that need them? And then also store these in an encrypted file for me to refer/access later?
[22:27] <angelookdown>  how do i change the number of columns and rows of text in tty1?
[22:28] <xFlipx> HorizonXP, keepass - windows app
[22:28] <Pelo> johnny2008, some obscure "pay as you go" operating system
[22:28] <peace53> gtg
[22:28] <Dodger73> i'm having some trouble with my ubuntu router/file server... i've got an atheros based PCI wifi card in it, in master mode... and end up getting loads and loads of Rx packet errors
[22:28] <prodigel> xFlipx: if you're thinking about my wireless, I know how to solve it. It has realtek 1394 chipsed and I have to install the proper package
[22:28] <xFlipx> HorizonXP, I believe it's keepass.info
[22:28] <prodigel> xFlipx: if not, please be more specific
[22:28] <johnny2008> Pelo: I got Vista with my new laptop.  so I dual boot Vista and Ubuntu.  I only use Vista when I use my webcam and play online games.  everything else I use Ubuntu
[22:28] <HorizonXP> xFlipx: it's a windows app?
[22:28] <xFlipx> prodigel, I was
[22:29] <xFlipx> HorizonXP, yes, there may be a nix version
[22:29] <Pelo> johnny2008, I feel your pain
[22:29] <xFlipx> prodigel, if you have the device installed what is the problem again?
[22:29] <prodigel> xFlipx: that another problem, first the net working, then the driver
[22:29] <cookie> that line doesn't work
[22:29] <HorizonXP> xFlipx: Looking at the page, they say they're open-source. I'll look for a linux version, thanks!
[22:29] <Dodger73> like, 2.3 million packet errors for 19 million received packets
[22:29] <ps> could someone answer me a question about lvm2/ cryptsetup? i'm getting crazy
[22:29] <xFlipx> prodigel, need driver before networking
[22:29] <prodigel> xFlipx: my ethernet card is working
[22:29] <simplexio> HorizonXP: cat /dev/random ?:)
[22:29] <prodigel> xFlipx: I want net thourhg my ethernet card
[22:30] <cookie> unop_: I am uninstalling the old gtkpod right now
[22:30] <prodigel> so that I can install packages for my wireless card
[22:30] <redtide> anyone here manage to get Bitwise to work on 7.10?
[22:30] <johnny2008> Pelo: what do you mean?  Vista gives me no problems when I use it for webcam sessions and playing BF2142 online
[22:30] <binarical-app> i am looking to start configuring php to show a page on my home server. can someone tell me where i should start looking ?
[22:30] <cookie> unop_: So after that...where do I get gpodlib from?
[22:30] <arcticpenguin380> will i notice a speed increase with 2gbs ram from 1gb?
[22:30] <xFlipx> you won't be able to talk to 192.168.2.x from 192.168.1.x without a gateway
[22:30] <magnetron> !lamp | binarical-app
[22:30] <ubotu> binarical-app: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[22:30] <johnny2008> Pelo: my webcam wont work on Ubuntu and I cannot play BF2142 on Ubuntu. So I need Vista for those 2 things.  And also I need Vista for my CAD program
[22:30] <unop_> cookie, you need to add that line into your /etc/apt/sources.list -- open it like this.   gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:30] <xFlipx> or a static route addition
[22:31] <unop_> cookie, and then drop this line in at the bottom.  deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ipod-touch/ubuntu gutsy main
[22:31] <xFlipx> HorizonXP, np :) gl!
[22:31] <sk8ball> Is it very difficult to install XP or Vista on the 2nd partition of a hdd that already has GRUB/Ubuntu installed on the first?
[22:31] <paule118> http://www.gulli.com/http://www.gulli.com
[22:31] <unop_> cookie, then run this command.  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install gtk-pod
[22:31] <Pelo> johnny2008, progecad works very well on wine , if you are interested,  www.progecad.com ,  there is a free version that does not include 3d stuff
[22:31] <prodigel> amenado: if still here my dia is done
[22:31] <sk8ball> Should all I have to be install XP on the 2nd partition then go back and restore GRUB on the MBR?
[22:31] <cookie> unop_: I know how to open a text file...but I think that line is invalid
[22:31] <simplexio> sk8ball: i just brokes grub, you need to fix it after
[22:31] <Jowi> goo, can you pastebin "sudo lshw -C network" /etc/network/interfaces and "sudo ifconfig" please.
[22:31] <xFlipx> brb
[22:31] <johnny2008> Pelo: it seems your ignorance stops you underdtanding why some ppl still need Vista for some tasks :)  I spoke to a Ubuntu developer, and he admitted my webcam wont work on Ubuntu, he said "hopefully in future release my Asus inbuilt webcam may come with drivers"
[22:31] <HorizonXP> xFlipx: http://www.keepassx.org/
[22:31] <HorizonXP> xFlipx: that's the linux version
[22:31] <prodigel> amenado: how may I send it?
[22:32] <cookie> unop_: sorry
[22:32] <unop_> cookie, invalid? what makes you think that?
[22:32] <sk8ball> simplexio, so I just need to restore GRUB after installing XP?
[22:32] <xFlipx> hot - I needed that Thanks HorizonXP
[22:32] <amenado> !paste | prodigel
[22:32] <ubotu> prodigel: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[22:32] <simplexio> sk8ball: far as i know
[22:32] <johnny2008> Pelo: the CAD I use for work is a $5,000 proferssional version that my whole office needs to use.  Get it now? lol
[22:32] <xFlipx> smooth app btw
[22:32] <amenado> prodigel dont know if that will take a drawing..
[22:32] <xFlipx> I use it in a very secure corporate environment
[22:32] <prodigel> amenado: ok... how then?
[22:32] <HorizonXP> xFlipx: thanks to you. my passwords are really bad (all the same right now) so I'm doing this ASAP
[22:33] <johnny2008> Pelo: Wine?  LOL! you are kidding right? :)  WINE is useless for this CAD program and many other apps.  Are you new to Ubuntu? :)
[22:33] <dapiz987> hey guys, any recommendations for a good well rounded media player app similar to Windows media player?
[22:33] <pen> hi
[22:33] <cookie> unop_: I was just being stupid
[22:33] <johnny2008> !wine
[22:33] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[22:33] <cookie> unop_: sorry
[22:33] <BarryToeman> HorizonXP: or apt-get install revelation
[22:33] <simplexio> johnny2008: does it use directX stuff, if not virtualization is allways better option thatn running native windows
[22:33] <amenado> prodigel lets ask some people around here?  how do you paste a drawing to pastebin ?
[22:33] <HorizonXP> xFlipx: btw, the package is named keepassx in the repos, at least on Hardy. If it's not in the Gutsy repo, they have a Gutsy deb on their page.
[22:33] <johnny2008> Pelo: for you to make such comments and expectations, you must be new to Ubuntu and not fully understand the limits on WINE
[22:34] <HorizonXP> BarryToeman: revelation?
[22:34]  * HorizonXP looks up revelation
[22:34] <xFlipx> HorizonXP, thanks, I'll check that out at home - I'm actually on a fedora box now. :)
[22:34] <ChaosTheory> I don't have GStreamer plugins and/or devices.
[22:34] <goo> Jowi: Interesting. The dlink shows in lshw, but is marked as disabled. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62157/
[22:34] <simplexio> joy of virtualized windows, no more viruses, no more slowly rotting registery, just return snapshot and you are back
[22:34] <BarryToeman> HorizonXP: password "safe" type thing.  also can generate randoms for you.
[22:34] <prodigel> amenado: sorry for my numbness, I've just pasted text to pastebin, never diagrams
[22:34] <Snares> anyone here use mono for ubuntu?
[22:34] <ChaosTheory> How do I fix this? I don't have any sound. =|
[22:34] <simplexio> ChaosTheory: laptop or dekstop ?
[22:35] <BarryToeman> HorizonXP: I've tried many password programs and that was my favorite.
[22:35] <ChaosTheory> simplexio: Laptop.
[22:35] <amenado> prodigel-> me too, so dont know how to get a jpeg or non text in there
[22:35] <magnetron> johnny2008: if your company needs professional support for a specific app in Wine, companies like Codeweaver are happy to supply you with a modified Wine that provides such functionality.
[22:35] <simplexio> ChaosTheory: if laptop, your master channel isnt master its surround or center or something else
[22:35] <c0ldfusion> Snares: I've played with mono develop a little; crazy when you're used to MS visual C#
[22:35] <ChaosTheory> simplexio: How do I make it master again?
[22:35] <simplexio> ChaosTheory: so alsamixer and rise all sound level to up
[22:35] <anewbieph> hello all.
[22:35] <xFlipx> HorizonXP, thanks - yum found it for fedora :)
[22:35] <BarryToeman> HorizonXP: plus is is GTK and not Qt like Keepass
[22:35] <ChaosTheory> simplexio: Typing in "alsamixer" gives me this: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[22:36] <prodigel> amenado: I can send you an email if there's no problem
[22:36] <simplexio> hmm
[22:36] <Jowi> goo, did you notice that lshw report the D-Link card as eth2?
[22:36] <saud_> i want to play .3gp on ubuntu
[22:36] <saud_> how?
[22:36] <Snares> c0ldfusion: you you know why when I try to run an older release---mono-1.1.12_0-installer.bin in the terminal I do ./mono-1.1.12_0-installer.bin and it just gives me $ right over again; no installer starts
[22:36] <cookie> thanks unop_
[22:36] <cookie> I am tryin git now
[22:36] <prettyricky> Does anyone know how to install AWN? Having some issues
[22:36] <arcticpenguin380> will i benefit from 2GBs ram
[22:36] <cookie> trying it*
[22:36] <amenado> prodigel a lil problem...hang a sec..
[22:36] <unop_> cookie, :)
[22:36] <Snares> c0ldfusion: this same installer has worked fine on ubuntu 6.04
[22:36] <xFlipx> BarryToeman, what's the advantage of GTK over QT?
[22:36] <simplexio> ChaosTheory: ChaosTheory what lsmod|grep snd
[22:36] <simplexio> ChaosTheory: tells you
[22:37] <ChaosTheory> simplexio: No output.
[22:37] <amenado> unop_-> you know of a pastebin to paste a drawing from dia? i dont know if its jpeg or what..
[22:37] <goo> Jowi: oh! F**k! (Pardon the french!!!)
[22:37] <phs5556> i have a new touch screen ho do i install the drivers to get the usb to work?
[22:37] <BarryToeman> xFlipx: personal preferences.  I'm not a KDE user, so I don't want to install a few extra files to use Qt apps.
[22:37] <Jowi> goo, configure eth2 in replacement for eth1 in /etc/network/interfaces and I think we have a winner :)
[22:37] <unop_> xFlipx, none,
[22:37] <goo> Let me try setting it up!!
[22:37] <xFlipx> gotcha
[22:37] <goo> Jowi: I think we may!!
[22:37] <Snares> permission to MSG you c0ldfusion?
[22:37] <xFlipx> for me keepass works best because I need to move it from windows to nix
[22:38] <BarryToeman> xFlipx: good enough reason.  I used to use KeePass when I used Windows.
[22:39] <saud_> how i play .3gp mobile movie om Ubuntu?pleas
[22:39] <Jowi> goo, now back to the crackers ;)
[22:39] <ChaosTheory> simplexio, any ideas?
[22:39] <goo> Jowi: If you are ever in Norway I will buy you a beer :)
[22:39] <simplexio> ChaosTheory: you dont have snd driver
[22:39] <Pelo> saud_, you can try by first installing all the gstreamer0.10 packages from synaptic
[22:39] <ChaosTheory> simplexio: How do I install it
[22:39] <anewbieph> hello guys... anybody knows what happened with firefox lately? mine exhibited strange, but very annoying symptoms.
[22:39] <prodigel> xFlipx: any ideas about my masquerading script? It should be really simple I think. doing a tracepath it shows that my package doesn't get more than to the leptop computer
[22:39] <unop__> amenado, hmm, i remember seeing one - can't remember the name right now -- i'm looking
[22:39] <cirkit> saud, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=178455
[22:39] <simplexio> ChaosTheory: what lspci tell about soundcards
[22:39] <amenado> unop_-> me too, its for prodigel to paste his drawings
[22:40] <Jowi> goo, don't thank me until you see it working. but I like both Norweigans and beer so....
[22:40] <saud_> ok
[22:40] <cirkit> http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS270&q=how+to+play+3gp+in+ubuntu&btnG=Google+Search
[22:40] <ChaosTheory> simplexio, 00:07.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP67 High Definition Audio (rev a1)
[22:40] <xFlipx> prodigel, not to sure buddy
[22:41] <frostburn> anyone have a guide on how to enable net-snmp for ubuntu?
[22:41] <goo> Jowi: That beer is yours!
[22:41] <happyface_> When I start Ubuntu, it mounts my windows share on the desktop, but when I access it, it says I cannot
[22:42] <Jowi> goo, so the NIC is up and running?
[22:42] <simplexio> ChaosTheory: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449&highlight=comprehensive+sound
[22:42] <prettyricky> Does anyone know how to install AWN? Having some issues
[22:42] <anewbieph> I can't get anything going on my address bar. I can type a url, but when I press enter, nothing happens. also the "back" button does not work. all this happened when I tried updating my ubuntu (dapper) system. thanks.
[22:42] <Lifeisfunny> prettyricky, I did it, I think I got the install info off their wiki if I remember
[22:42] <goo> Jowi: Oh yeah! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62164/
[22:42] <Lifeisfunny> correctly
[22:43] <prettyricky>  I have tried that but I get broken package error
[22:43] <cookie> hey
[22:43] <phs5556> new here how do i install the drivers for a usb touch screen?
[22:43] <goo> Jowi: Without your little lshw command I would have given it up :)
[22:43] <cookie> unop_: how do I load my ipod touch from gtkpod
[22:43] <Lifeisfunny> hmm, hold on
[22:43] <goo> Jowi: Now for some performance tsting.. brb
[22:43] <slicslak> i installed 7.10 ppc on an old mac i had.  it doesn't boot i'm wondering if it's do to screen resolution.   does ctrl-alt-f* work for dynamically switching resolutions?
[22:43] <Jowi> goo, great. :) glad I could help.
[22:44] <cookie> unop_: It says it can't find it. do you know where is its location in /dev
[22:44] <cookie> ?
[22:44] <unop__> amenado, i can't remember what it was -- but you could use something like this http://bayimg.com/  or http://www.abload.de/
[22:44] <cookie> or don't I need to know that
[22:44] <amenado> unop__-> thanks.. prodigel can you try that link?
[22:44] <unop__> cookie, gtkpod should just be able to access the ipod via the mountpoint .. so mount your ipod somewhere, like /media/ipod .. and then point gtkpod to that location
[22:45] <cookie> how do I mount it
[22:45] <cookie> if IDK what to mount from dev
[22:45] <LollinopiL> can i put together more PDF files with the ubuntu's "Document Viewer" ? ? ?
[22:45] <slicslak> i mean ctrl-alt-+ or - for switching resolutions.  does that work in 7.10?
[22:45] <Lifeisfunny> prettyricky, do you have their urls in your sources.list
[22:45] <slicslak> if not, should i be able to reach a virtual console with ctrl-alt-f1?
[22:46] <prodigel> http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=finallyj9h.png
[22:46] <simplexio> ChaosTheory: try modprobe snd_hda_intel ?
[22:46] <gkffjcs> is there a way that I can force eject the cd tray, I was running an app in wine off of cd, and now I cannot eject the cd, I get an error telling me that the device is busy.
[22:46] <prodigel> amenado: paste it here, just forgot to mention your nick
[22:46] <cookie> unop_: How do I mount it? better said...what do I mount? where i smy ipod touch? /dev/?
[22:46] <LollinopiL> can i put together more PDF files with the ubuntu's "Document Viewer" ? ? ?
[22:47] <arcticpenguin380> does ubuntu have a mascot?
[22:47] <phs5556> new here how do i install the drivers for a usb touch screen?
[22:47] <HorizonXP> BarryToeman: Revelation looks good to me. I lose interoperability with Windows, but.... I think I'm willing to forego that for now.
[22:47] <ChaosTheory> simplexio, I'm following the guide.
[22:47] <simplexio> ChaosTheory: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/no-sound-with-nvidia-mcp67-hda-629627/
[22:47] <simplexio> ChaosTheory: oss seems to work too
[22:47] <amenado> prodigel, okay all you do on that laptop then is   sudo  echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward  and
[22:47] <HorizonXP> BarryToeman: On the page though, it says that passwords are in plaintext when in memory. Makes perfect sense to me, but.... is there any programs that could avoid that at all?
[22:47] <unop__> cookie, ok, your ipod is probably something like /dev/sdb .. to find out what it actually is .. examine the output of the dmesg command just after plugging it in
[22:47] <Pelo> phs5556, try looking up your monitor's model in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org or in here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[22:47] <prodigel> amenado: did that echo
[22:48] <cookie> unop_:thanks.
[22:48] <gkffjcs> is there a way that I can force eject the cd tray, I was running an app in wine off of cd, and now I cannot eject the cd, I get an error telling me that the device is busy.
[22:48] <prettyricky> yes I added both of them
[22:48] <amenado> prodigel-> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ra0 -j MASQUERADE
[22:48] <BarryToeman> HorizonXP: i'm not sure.  maybe you can encrypt your swap partition.
[22:48] <simplexio> ChaosTheory: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/wirelessandsound-not-working-on-an-acer-aspire-5520-630868/  , seems to imply that hda-intel its right driver and it is in 7.10 kernel
[22:48] <amenado> prodigel-> sudo  iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ra0 -j MASQUERADE
[22:48] <ChaosTheory> simplexio, thanks.
[22:48] <HorizonXP> BarryToeman: LOL, I guess, but that still leaves RAM
[22:49] <cookie> unop_: wtf? ehci_hcd
[22:49] <BarryToeman> HorizonXP: Revelation can import/export other formats, but you're right about Windows interopt.
[22:49] <LollinopiL> can i put together more PDF files with the ubuntu's "Document Viewer" ? ? ?
[22:49] <Jowi> gkffjcs, first try to close/kill all apps that might use the cd drive. then try "sudo eject"
[22:49] <prodigel> amenado: wow!
[22:49] <prodigel> amenado: it woked :)
[22:49] <Lifeisfunny> prettyricky,    check this ..............  http://pastebin.ca/971656
[22:49] <unop__> cookie, you can also use this command.. sudo fdisk -l
[22:49] <amenado> prodigel-> am glad it did for you
[22:50] <simplexio> ChaosTheory: and im pretty sure that when you get modules loaded, that master channel will be surround or center, so remeber but all sound lvls to middle so you should hear something
[22:50] <cookie> well. it says that new high speed usb device
[22:50] <prodigel> amenado: thanks alot. Probably I forgot that one when changing interfaces names
[22:50] <slipttees> hey
[22:50] <slipttees> http://pastebin.ca/971657
[22:50] <Lifeisfunny> prettyricky,    consider putting those into a terminal
[22:50] <BarryToeman> HorizonXP: you can make a FAT partition that both OS can read (dual boot) and use Keepass and save the password file on that partition.
[22:50] <cookie> is in ehci_hcd
[22:50] <slipttees> wtf ?
[22:50] <prodigel> amenado: I promise I'll learn someday iptables
[22:50] <ChaosTheory> simplexio, okay, thanks.
[22:50] <prettyricky> ok thanks will do----->>
[22:50] <simplexio> ChaosTheory: my brother had that problem with his laptop which used same driver
[22:50] <LollinopiL> pdftk jejejeje
[22:50] <ChaosTheory> simplexio, oh, I see.
[22:50] <amenado> prodigel-> thank unop_ too for giving us the pastebin link to paste your drawing
[22:50] <simplexio> ChaosTheory: not same chip thought
[22:51] <prodigel> unop_: thank you for giving me that wonderful pictuer upload link :)
[22:51] <loca|host> hello all
[22:51] <prettyricky> sorry kind of new to this do I paste one by one in the terminal?
[22:51] <level09> hi
[22:51] <Lifeisfunny> prettyricky, yes
[22:51] <loca|host> i cant mount my MemoryStick (Sony), dmesg says: tifm_ms: Unknown symbol tifm_has_ms_pif
[22:52] <loca|host> is it a problem with the tifm driver ?
[22:52] <prettyricky> ok
[22:52] <ZoiX> LollinopiL: together?
[22:52] <loca|host> how can i resolve it
[22:52] <slipttees> hey
[22:52] <slipttees> http://pastebin.ca/971657
[22:52] <slipttees> please help me
[22:52] <cookie> unop_: how do I mount it? what type of filesystem do I use
[22:52] <cookie> ?
[22:52] <level09> I'm about about to install ubuntu on a machine that already has winxp, is there anything dangerous if I do so ?
[22:52] <Pelo> slipttees, can you summerise your problem for us first ?
[22:52] <unop__> cookiemonster078, is it a winpod or a macpod?
[22:52] <Starnestommy> slipttees: replace that "@" with a "#" then put each line into the terminal one-by-one and run it
[22:52] <ss2> level09: yup, your xp system could be gone :)
[22:53] <slipttees> Pelo: read past
[22:53] <Lifeisfunny> prettyricky, then a menu entry AWN is in the applications/accessories directory
[22:53] <Snares12> level09: that depends on whether or not you have partitioned windows xp correctly
[22:53] <level09> u must be kidding :D
[22:53] <LollinopiL> ZoiX that program will put together more PDF files
[22:53] <level09> whys that ?
[22:53] <ZoiX> LollinopiL: how?
[22:53] <slipttees> Starnestommy: i use "sudo gedit "
[22:53] <Lifeisfunny>    AVANT blah blah
[22:53] <Snares12> level09: if you have unpartitioned space to put ubuntu on it's not too complicated
[22:53] <cirkit> loca|host, try something like mount -t vfat /dev/hda /mnt/usbdrive ...
[22:53] <Pelo> slipttees,  gksu gedit
[22:53] <Snares12> level09: but if you have to resize the ntfs partition it can get tricky
[22:53] <anewbieph> anybody?...
[22:53] <level09> Snares12: I can unpartition some space
[22:53] <Starnestommy> slipttees: then just replace the '@' with a '#' and save
[22:53] <prettyricky> do I sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list and enter the urls in there>.>>
[22:53] <ss2> level09: not being carefull enough?
[22:54] <Lifeisfunny> prettyricky, click there and set things up
[22:54] <amenado> anewbieph-> dont ask to ask, state your specific problem with ubuntu?
[22:54] <Lifeisfunny> yes
[22:54] <level09> winxp has a tool to delelet partitions
[22:54] <LollinopiL> ZoiX u have to install it  sudo apt-get install pdftk.
[22:54] <Snares12> level09: ubuntu is made to do this, however, there are always risks. the best thing to do is make backups of all important files before installing ubuntu
[22:54] <level09> *delete
[22:54] <ZoiX> LollinopiL: yes, I have got. I didn't know xD
[22:54] <Lifeisfunny> that writes that previous line into the sources.list file
[22:54] <LollinopiL> ZoiX then pdftk file1.pdf file2.pdf file3.pdf cat output file.pdf.
[22:54] <Xorothal> &lt;Shift&gt;
[22:54] <LollinopiL> np ;)
[22:54] <Xorothal> how can I set up a static IP?
[22:54] <ZoiX> LollinopiL: aaah... this program is like a joiner, no?
[22:54] <loca|host> cirkit, nothing about that, dmesg says there were a problem, and no device name was given to it
[22:55] <level09> okay thanks guys
[22:55] <Pelo> Xorothal, in  meny > system > admin > netwrok
[22:55] <Pelo> menu
[22:55] <Lifeisfunny> the       'deb .... >' |
[22:55] <ss2> Xorothal: static ips need to be bought from your isp :)
[22:55] <level09> Snares12: so I have to have some unpartitioned space in order to install ubuntu ?
[22:55] <Snares12> Xorothal: System->Admininstration->Network
[22:55] <Xorothal> kk
[22:55] <LollinopiL> i don't know ... but u can put together more PDF file, that's enough for me :D
[22:55] <anewbieph> thanks amenado. sorry. my problem is that I recently updated my ubuntu (dapper) and my firefox stopped responding from any input (after pressing enter on the keyboard).
[22:55] <ZoiX> LollinopiL: you can use nautilus scripts too
[22:55] <Xorothal> ss2: no just on my local network
[22:55] <Snares12> level09: no, you use ubuntu's partitioner to resize the current partition
[22:56] <goo> Jowi: The problem was of course udev, that added a static stanza in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules. I had a tulip card in the box before, which was permanently marked as eth1.
[22:56] <DjViper> has anyone used NXserver here before?
[22:56] <ss2> k, then lookup your interfaces file
[22:56] <goo> gah
[22:56] <anewbieph> I mean, in the address bar.
[22:56] <ZoiX> LollinopiL: one right click on PDFs and... ready :P
[22:56] <Snares12> Xorothal: double click wired connection and next top configuration select static IP address, then put in the appropriate settings
[22:56] <amenado> anewbieph-> you tried to log-off and maybe perhaps restart X?  or you can reboot.
[22:56] <level09> Snares12: is there any windows interface to install ubuntu? I'm planning to use a boot disk
[22:56] <Xorothal> what's my gateway address?
[22:57] <DjViper> level09: next version :)
[22:57] <Pelo> Xorothal, type ifconfig in the terminal
[22:57] <Xorothal> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1D:60:80:41:A6
[22:57] <Xorothal>           inet addr:172.168.0.2  Bcast:172.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[22:57] <Xorothal>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[22:57] <Xorothal>           RX packets:4584 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[22:57] <Xorothal>           TX packets:9274 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:1
[22:57] <FloodBot1> Xorothal: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:57] <Xorothal>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[22:57] <DjViper> level09: in 8.04 you can install ubuntu into a single file which can be run from windows etc
[22:57] <Pelo> Xorothal, don't paste in this channel
[22:57] <ss2> Xorothal: nopaste!
[22:57] <Xorothal> sorry! *cowers*
[22:58] <unop__> amenado, i found an actual pastebin that allows you to attach pictures :) http://www.litetext.com/
[22:58] <Snares12> ur gateway is usually either 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1
[22:58] <Snares12> depends
[22:58] <prettyricky> will it effect that I had already added urls to the source.list?
[22:58] <anewbieph> I've done that before. I've turned off my machine after the upgrade. Then I restarted it after many hours. And when I tried connecting to the internet, I discovered this.
[22:58] <Xorothal> so the gateway is the addr of the router?
[22:58] <amenado> unop__-> thank you, i will bookmark that for future reference
[22:58] <level09> DjViper: thnx where can I get that ?
[22:58] <Snares12> Xorothal: yes
[22:58] <prettyricky> cause when i did the update it said Err http://download.tuxfamily.org feisty/avant-window-navigator Packages
[22:58] <prettyricky>   404 Not Found
[22:59] <Xorothal> aha
[22:59] <Snares12> I'm guessing the gateway for you Xorothal is 172.168.0.1
[22:59] <Snares12> but I'm not sure
[22:59] <DjViper> level09: it's still in beta.. but you can download it from various sites, just google ubuntu 8.04
[22:59] <Lifeisfunny> Xorothal,     try this for multi-line posts..............  http://pastebin.ca/
[22:59] <zippytech> i have a scsi drive is there any way to find what program is scanning the drive because my has been running wide open for days
[22:59] <Xorothal> ok thanks everyone, I know how to use a pastebin but I'm tired and I forgot, sorry
[22:59] <hvgotcodes> hey what is the default ubuntu pdf app?
[23:00] <hvgotcodes> mine stopped working
[23:00] <DjViper> zippytech: disable all desktop search apps, like beagle and google desktop
[23:00] <Snares12> errr
[23:00] <soundray> hvgotcodes: evince
[23:00] <Lifeisfunny> prettyricky, you can comment out those other ones with a # at the left margin of their line
[23:00] <hvgotcodes> i think because i deleted the poppler
[23:00] <zippytech> i even formated and reloaded and still does it
[23:00] <hvgotcodes> soundray: how do i reinstall all evince deps?
[23:00] <zippytech> it's also mythbunutu
[23:00] <Jowi> goo, lshw is a great tool. thanks goes out to the devs. have a nice evening - i will retire for the night.
[23:00] <Lifeisfunny> prettyricky, infact it would be best to do that
[23:00] <amenado> anewbieph-> you're saying you can not enter anything on the firefox url spaces like http://www.yahoo.com ?
[23:00] <anewbieph> right.
[23:01] <soundray> hvgotcodes: get a list with 'apt-cache depends evince', then you can apt-get install them
[23:01] <anewbieph> I can type it, it displays... but nothing happens when I press enter.
[23:01] <prettyricky> ok ty
[23:01] <amenado> anewbieph-> so you can not type any other url?
[23:01] <hvgotcodes> soundray thanx
[23:02] <Lifeisfunny> prettyricky, good luck, I'm going for dinner.
[23:02] <Pelo> anewbieph, try clicking the little arrow on the rightof the url bar,  no the drop down one , the one next to that
[23:02] <soundray> hvgotcodes: to do it all in one line: apt-cache depends evince | grep Depends: | cut -d ':' -f 2 | xargs apt-get --reinstall install
[23:03] <erle64-> hvgotcodes, evince is the reader in gnome
[23:03] <anewbieph> amenado-> I can type anything on it. however, when I press enter, it just ignores it. Pelo-> you mean the "go" button?
[23:03] <hvgotcodes> soundray: excellent
[23:03] <x1250> hey guys, anyway to get smooth scrolling (global) with a touchpad?
[23:03] <hvgotcodes> erle64
[23:03] <Pelo> anewbieph, yes
[23:03] <hvgotcodes> yeah im in gnome
[23:03] <prettyricky> thanks for your help!
[23:03] <hvgotcodes> gotta run guys thanx for the help
[23:03] <anewbieph> okay, please wait...
[23:03] <soundray> hvgotcodes: except that I forgot sudo (before the apt-get)
[23:03] <soundray> guess he'll work it out
[23:03] <HorizonXP> BarryToeman: Revelation doesn't have a good password generator like KeepassX
[23:04] <anewbieph> Pelo-> nope... it also ignored it.
[23:04] <frostburn> Hmm, has anyone set up net-snmp with ubuntu with even a modicum of success?
[23:04] <Pelo> anewbieph, are  you using the default firefox that comes with ubuntu or did you install the beta of the latest ?
[23:04] <krim> HorizonXP: I'd say it's good enough. Not like anyone will crack a password with 32 random characters anyway. Even if it's missing special characters.
[23:04] <phs5556> i have the Linux drivers for a touchscreen how do i install them
[23:05] <Pelo> frostburn, you are not being ignored,  we just don't know , consider checking in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[23:05] <Pelo> phs5556, what kind of files ?
[23:05] <HorizonXP> krim: it only generates passwords 8 characters long
[23:05] <anewbieph> Pelo-> it was suppose to be just an update. 1.5.0.12eol.
[23:05] <krim> HorizonXP: Nope, go to preferences and you can change it.
[23:05] <HorizonXP> krim: and some websites have stupid arcane rules for what your password should be like
[23:05] <Pelo> anewbieph, what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[23:06] <HorizonXP> krim:  ah you're right
[23:06] <HorizonXP> krim:  but no symbols :(
[23:06] <anewbieph> Pelo-> dapper LTS 6.06, I guess
[23:06] <krim> HorizonXP: Yeah, that's why it doesn't matter that Revelation doesn't use special characters
[23:06] <IndyGunFreak> did you just install?
[23:06] <phs5556> the file is named touchkit.setup.sh on a cd
[23:06] <oscar78> #ubuntu-ve
[23:07] <Pelo> anewbieph, I'M guessing this is a new problem ? cause dapper has been around for a while and the current ff on gutsy is 2.2 , in anycase I have no idea what the problem could be,  I'm quite surprised
[23:07] <HorizonXP> krim: What do you mean? Aren't passwords with symbols better?
[23:07] <teufelhunden> Hey, have a question about my GPU (8800 GT): In my efforts to get GLX working, the only driver I have found to work is the proprietery driver off of nvidia's website.  However, every time I restsart my computer the driver won't work untill I reinstall it.  Seeing as how I switch hardrives and reboot often, this is a... major inconvinence.  Any ideas?
[23:08] <anewbieph> Pelo-> I believe so. I was reluctant to have my system updated after a while, but when I did, this happened.
[23:08] <Pelo> phs5556, ok  copy the file over to your desktop ,  open a terminal ,  cd Desktop,   sudo chmod +x filename.sh ,    sudo ./filename.sh
[23:08] <Pelo> anewbieph, try updating again maybe you need an extra package to fix it
[23:08] <sergemd> hello all
[23:08] <supreme> hi all
[23:08] <supreme> hi sergemd
[23:09] <sergemd> i have an question: it is possible to use gutsy repositories for ubuntu feisty ?
[23:09] <unop__> HorizonXP, well, not necessarily, but they can help against brute force crackers -- they are likely to exhaust all combinations of numbers and letters before going on to use special characters, so it'll probably take them longer to crack a password with specials
[23:09] <anewbieph> Pelo-> okay, I'll do it. thanks.
[23:09] <Pelo> anewbieph, but seriously , this kind of stuff shoudln't be happening,  maybe reboot the comp that might reset some keybaord thing or soemthing
[23:09] <sergemd> supreme hello
[23:09] <sergemd> :D
[23:09] <soundray> sergemd: it's possible, but you'll probably mess it up
[23:09] <anewbieph> Pelo-> I know,.  been using ubuntu for more than a year now. no problem like this ever.
[23:09] <soundray> sergemd: why not upgrade?
[23:10] <DjViper> has anyone used NXserver here before?
[23:10] <sergemd> soundray, i like feisy, but probaly i will stay with feisty repositories
[23:10] <HorizonXP> unop__: hmm..... well, I'm guessing if this is a login to my credit card website, I shouldn't be too worried about that right? I mean, limits of how quickly you can connect, and my bank should 'freeze' my account after so many attempts, correct?
[23:10] <maestrojed> I just installed openssh, I am looking at the config file sshd_config.  Can you limit was system users are allowed to login?
[23:10] <db-keen> I just ran sudo rm -r /usr/local/src. Can I recover it? What was in that folder?
[23:10] <anewbieph> Pelo-> as an added info. my Konqueror does not seem to display this same problem.
[23:10] <Pelo> anewbieph, if you decide to upgrade , I would suggest you do it now and get the beta of hardy, it's pretty stable as it is and will upgrade from dapper
[23:11] <soundray> db-keen: undelete on ext3 filesystems is extremely difficult. Ubuntu stores nothing in /usr/local/src, so there wasn't anything important there unless you placed it there yourself
[23:11] <Pelo> anewbieph, it,s probabaly specific to firefox then,  either some package got borked or it's just being stupid,  try rebooting , it might help
[23:11] <anewbieph> Pelo-> I don't have hardy at the moment. However, I have Gutsy. Can ti do ti from there?
[23:11] <ryanzec> i tried to start ubuntu from the cd and it just stops at a line saying loading boot scripts, anyone know why this would happen?
[23:11] <unop__> HorizonXP, well, yes, in those circumstances no cracker would try brute force guessing a password and would likely exploit another weaker link in the chain -- and the strength of passwords in that instance isnt the weakest link
[23:12] <anewbieph> Pelo-> Okay, I will. thanks.
[23:12] <frostburn> Pelo, thanks for the help though.  For future reference, the  /etc/defaults/snmp   line to    SNMPDOPTS='-Lsd -Lf /dev/null -u snmp -I -smux -p /var/run/snmpd.pid 0.0.0.0'
[23:12] <Pelo> anewbieph, you can'T upgrade from dapper to gutsy , but you can clean install , just copy your /home folder to a seperate partiton
[23:12] <caesa1> Is there a command I can type into the terminal that would allow me to identify a keyboard key's name?
[23:12] <eax> Could anyone tell me how to make VLC the Default player in Feisty?
[23:12] <HorizonXP> unop__: what would be? I'm guessing that if that weak link were exploited, there's not much I could do?
[23:12] <Pelo> frostburn, you I'll try and remember that
[23:12] <jessica>  i am wanting to make it apper as though i live in the US i live in england but a website is only avalable to people in the US is there any software that can do that
[23:13] <albert0> hola sala
[23:13] <knobcottage> eax system>preferences>multimedia tab
[23:13] <kumarphilly> sala?
[23:13] <unocrash> jessica: Whats that have to do with ubuntu?
[23:13] <Pelo> eax, select one file of each file type,  right click,   properties,  open with tab , add vlc to the selection and make it default,  repeat for each file type
[23:13] <anewbieph> Pelo-> yes... that I gathered previously. But I was asking maybe you know how. Thanks. I will reboot now. bye.
[23:13] <DjViper> jessica: hm, some php code that checks IP and looks it up in a ip-to-country db?
[23:14] <DjViper> jessica: ask in #apache
[23:14] <jessica> because normally there is software but ok thanks
[23:14] <unocrash> !ubuntu-sp
[23:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-sp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:14] <unocrash> !ubuntu
[23:14] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[23:14] <Pelo> unocrash, ubuntu-es
[23:14] <knobcottage> eax oops system>preferences>preferred apps multimedia tab
[23:14] <creationist> I'm trying to run GParted from the live CD, but it just sits on "Scanning all devices..." indefinitely.  What's up?
[23:14] <DjViper> jessica: mind you the code will never be 100% accurate, it will only be as accurate as the iptoc db
[23:15] <Pelo> creationist, with some hdd config it takes a while up to five minutes,  some bug in the gutsy one ,  just be very patient , it will get to it
[23:15] <soundray> DjViper: I think you should re-read the question...
[23:15] <unocrash> !ubuntu-es
[23:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-es - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:15] <Pelo> unocrash, /join #ubuntu-es
[23:15] <unocrash> hmmm
[23:15] <creationist> Pelo: Hmm... weird.  But okay.
[23:15] <unocrash> Pelo: I dont need top
[23:15] <unocrash> to
[23:15] <DjViper> soundray: hehe d'oh
[23:15] <unop__> HorizonXP, well, things like keyloggers, browser exploits, traffic interception, sql injection, social engineering are likely to have a higher chance of success, somethings you can protect against, like your computer's security, but others you can't and those might be in the jurisdiction of your ISP and/or banking system
[23:15] <unocrash> Im 100% American
[23:16] <Pelo> unocrash, you can play with the bot in private then using /msg ubotu !trigger
[23:16] <soundray> creationist: this could also be a sign of too little RAM
[23:16] <unocrash> it's Albert0 who needs to go to ubuntu-es
[23:16] <JPSman> what does:     build-essential: Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed      mean?
[23:16] <DjViper> nobody is 100% 'american' lol :P
[23:16] <T4E|Soul> Moinsen
[23:16] <Pelo> !es | albert0
[23:16] <ubotu> albert0: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[23:16] <T4E|Soul> Ist jemand hier der Deutsch kann ?
[23:16] <albert0> ok
[23:16] <albert0> amigo
[23:16] <soundray> !de | T4E|Soul
[23:16] <ubotu> T4E|Soul: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[23:16] <Pelo> !de | T4E|Soul
[23:16] <creationist> soundray: I've got 1gb of memory.
[23:16] <ether_c> JPSman: it means it requires libc6-dev but can't find the package?
[23:16] <damaltor> T4E|Soul: Ja hier. aber bitte joine #ubuntu-de
[23:17] <damaltor> !de
[23:17] <HorizonXP> unop__: ahh, all makes sense. thanks. I'm just trying to secure all of my accounts. nothing bad's happened thankfully, but right now, I have one password for everything, which needs to change fast. so I'm doing that now.
[23:17] <unocrash> !fr
[23:17] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[23:17] <soundray> creationist: that should be enough, unless you're running something else major
[23:17] <damaltor> !ge
[23:17] <ubotu> ქართული ენაზე დახმარების მიღებისთვის გთხოვთ შემობრძანდით #ubuntu-ge / Kartuli enaze dakhmarebis mighebistvis gtkhovt shemobrdzandit #ubuntu-ge
[23:17] <damaltor> !de
[23:17] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[23:17] <JPSman> ether_c - how do I get said package?
[23:17] <kumarphilly> !english
[23:17] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[23:17] <creationist> soundray: Just GParted and XChat
[23:17] <ferbyboy> does anyone have there system crash when they read and write onto there external hardrives? i even reinstalled ubuntu thinking it was bugs but same thing happens...i use xp and even vista and i could both read and write and do other things wthout the system crashing mind you i have a wd mybook external
[23:17] <unocrash> whats !ge?
[23:17] <HorizonXP> oh and revelation is awesome with the copy username and password feature. the 1st time I paste, it does the username. the 2nd time's the password. awesome. pure awesome.
[23:17] <kumarphilly> !hindi
[23:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hindi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:17] <ether_c> I have no idea.. but I just installed build-essential 5 minutes ago with no trouble
[23:17] <Pelo> !botabuse
[23:17] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[23:17] <Mighty_Penguin> ubuntu server edition is the same as a base ubuntu system correct?
[23:17] <ether_c> on hardy
[23:17] <creationist> soundray: Running GParted from a terminal too... no errors.
[23:18] <michael__> hey can anyone explain why i cant hear any mp3's
[23:18] <unocrash> hindi?
[23:18] <Pelo> !mp3 | michael__
[23:18] <ubotu> michael__: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[23:18] <michael__> i downloaded the codec for the player
[23:18] <soundray> creationist: I'll concur with Pelo then
[23:18] <creationist> Pelo: Somehow I knew he was going to say that :)
[23:18] <ferbyboy> michael_: whas ur sound ever working before?
[23:18] <creationist> Pelo: He said he couldn't HEAR them, not he couldn't PLAY them :P
[23:19] <Pelo> creationist, cause he knows what's good for him
[23:19] <unocrash> what's the skype download place?
[23:19] <soundray> unocrash: Georgian
[23:19] <kumarphilly> !language
[23:19] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[23:19] <kumarphilly> oops
[23:19] <creationist> michael__: Is your volume up?
[23:19] <Pelo> michael__, ,  do you get any other sound on your comp ?
[23:19] <snake> hello. is there any way to edit exe files in ubuntu ?
[23:19] <kumarphilly> edit? or run?
[23:19] <ether_c> you can't edit .exe files
[23:19] <soundray> !medibuntu | unocrash
[23:19] <ubotu> unocrash: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[23:19] <kumarphilly> WINE will run em
[23:19] <ether_c> well, you *could* but you wouldn't want to
[23:20] <snake> kumarphilly: edit
[23:20] <saud__> how i play .3gp on ubuntu
[23:20] <Mathman> ether_c: eh, depends on the ".exe" files I suppose
[23:20]  * creationist stiiiillll waiting for GParted to do something interesting.
[23:20] <kumarphilly> saud__ check synaptic
[23:20] <krim> HorizonXP: Passwords with symbols are better but when you have a random password with 32 characters it doesn't really matter, no one will break it anyway :)
[23:20] <ferbyboy> theres also virtual box that lets u run other operating systems such as windows xp and lets u run .exe files plus the whole os itself too
[23:20] <kumarphilly> snake, dunno.... use windows!
[23:20] <Mathman> snake: khexedit?  something like that...
[23:20] <michael__> lets see if that works
[23:20] <snake> Mathman: thanks
[23:20] <unocrash> isn't Medibuntu just UbuntuStudio?
[23:21] <soundray> unocrash: no
[23:21] <creationist> Wow.. GParted actually did finally kick in lol  Go figure.
[23:21] <jessica> is there any software that will hid my ip or change it so it looks like im from america
[23:21] <saud__> i check the gstreamer0.10 on synaptic?
[23:21] <michael__> jessica: i know that ive google ip spoofers and came up with some ok ones but i dont know how legit they are you could also always proxy
[23:21] <soundray> jessica: you will need a proxy. Tor might solve your problem
[23:21] <Mathman> jessica: sure, but then you're not going to get much traffic headed back your way
[23:21] <Pelo> jessica, some proxy probabaly ,
[23:22] <saud__> and now nothing work
[23:22] <Pelo> !tor | jessica
[23:22] <ubotu> jessica: TOR is a project aiming to provide anonymous connections via specialized !proxies - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TOR for information and help - Note that TOR is blocked on most Ubuntu IRC channels, please see !hostmask and !tor-gpg
[23:22] <Starnestommy> jessica: maybe tor, but a lot of its nodes aren aren't the US
[23:22] <krim> jessica: Tor comes to mind, I think it should be possible to use only exit nodes in USA. But that might be a bit overkill.
[23:23] <michael__> no luck still no audio out from the player guys
[23:23] <knobcottage> jessica there is a firefox addon
[23:23]  * soundray is proud: five suggestions of tor and his was first ;)
[23:23] <jessica> what is the name of the addon
[23:23] <Pelo> michael__, do you get any sound on your computer ?
[23:23] <knobcottage> called proxysel
[23:23] <jessica> im trying to view video's from http://www.hulu.com
[23:23] <knobcottage> follow the instructions on teh addon page and download teh proxylist from america
[23:23] <creationist> michael__: What have you done so far to try and fix it?
[23:24] <jessica> ill try proxysel thanks
[23:24] <michael__> pelo: yeah the songs play through my limewire but i dont plan on keeping limewire on here and i tried opening it by itself and it just wont play the aufio through any of the included players
[23:24] <JPSman> so I am trying to  "sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.22 build-essential gawk"  and I am getting a "The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[23:24] <JPSman>   build-essential: Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed - libc-dev  Depends: g++ (>= 4:4.0) but it is not going to be installed"
[23:24] <michael__> creationist: ive checked the device out on the player and ive installed the restricted extras
[23:24] <knobcottage> teh file downloads as a txt file.  You then need to cahnge it to a csv file and import it to proxysel
[23:24] <Pelo> jessica, http://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-doc-unix.html.en
[23:24] <soundray> JPSman: have you done a 'sudo apt-get update' recently?
[23:24] <creationist> michael__: So the MP3 files play just fine with Limewire?  Try reinstalling the xine packages...
[23:25] <knobcottage> the file that is the proxy list!
[23:25] <JPSman> soundry: no
[23:25] <Pelo> michael__, try loading the file from the player ,
[23:25] <JPSman> soundry: I'll try
[23:25] <rm_you|> Does anyone know how I can disable the "autologin" on the LiveCD for all of the ttys?
[23:25] <michael__> creationist: will do
[23:25] <michael__> pelo: ill try that to
[23:25] <loca|host> !tifm
[23:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tifm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:26] <jessica> proxysel is not working its still detecting im in england
[23:26] <JPSman> soundry: it can't find some of the packages
[23:26] <michael__> pelo, creationist: isnt there a version of totem somewhere on here?
[23:26] <creationist> michael__: Actually, do the other players go through the motions of playing the file (the time scrolls, etc.) but you just get no sound?  You could try running those programs from the terminal and watch for any feedback when you play the file.
[23:26] <unocrash> what is mythbuntu?
[23:26] <JPSman> soundry: Like the server is busy or something
[23:26] <michael__> creationist: thats exactly what hppens
[23:26] <Pelo> michael__, I don't know what you are talking about
[23:26] <creationist> !mythbuntu | unocrash
[23:26] <ubotu> unocrash: Mythbuntu is an Ubuntu derivative centered upon setting up a standalone MythTV system. See: http://www.mythbuntu.org for more information
[23:27] <michael__> creationist: so your saying open the MP3 itself in the terminal?? or just the player
[23:27] <creationist> michael__: Then definitely give it a shot from a terminal first... then try reinstalling the xine libraries.
[23:27] <soundray> JPSman: try again in a while then, or select a different mirror
[23:27] <unocrash> ahhh
[23:27] <creationist> michael__: Open just the player (like typing 'mplayer' in the terminal), then load the file with the player.
[23:27] <unocrash> compiz is driving me nuts!
[23:28] <JPSman> soundry: dont know how to select a different mirror :OD
[23:28] <Shpook> Quick stupid question: How do I kill Wanda?
[23:28] <creationist> michael__: When you play the file, then switch back to the terminal and see if it spits out any errors messages.
[23:28] <ryanzec> When i try to load ubuntu 8.04 from the beta cd(64-bit) I have to set my video settings and then the loading stops with the last line of loading boot scripts.  it was like that for a mins before i restart, does that take very long?  anything else that might cause this issue?
[23:28] <soundray> JPSman: System-Administration-Software Sources
[23:28] <Bsims> Got a question, skype's font is un antialiased any ideas?
[23:28] <unocrash> How do I make it so that only the animations apply to windows?
[23:28] <sobczyk> ubuntu-pl
[23:28] <_maw> anyone know of software that works at the "sound driver" level to record music in realtime?
[23:28] <Shpook> That's an honest legit question; I'm talking about the fish that shows up when you type "free the fish" in the run dialog
[23:29] <soundray> !info vsound | _maw
[23:29] <ubotu> _maw: vsound (source: vsound): Virtual loopback sound recorder and real audio converter. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6-4.1 (gutsy), package size 14 kB, installed size 108 kB
[23:29] <Shpook> But, I can't figure out how to make it dissappear
[23:29] <unocrash> How do I make it so that only the animations apply to windows?
[23:29] <_maw> soundray: hot :o
[23:30] <michael__> unocrash: get compz fusion through your package manager ccsm
[23:30] <happyface_> When I start Ubuntu, it mounts my windows share on the desktop, but when I access it, it says "couldn't display all the contents"
[23:30] <rm_you|> Does anyone know how I can disable the "autologin" on the LiveCD for all of the ttys?
[23:30] <creationist> michael__: Alright, I'm sorry I can't stick around and finish helping you with this... I've got my own problem to fix now :)  Good luck, though.
[23:30] <michael__> creationist: its cool
[23:30] <_maw> soundray: looks pretty old, is this the only program that does it?
[23:30] <unocrash> michael_: I All ready have it. I want the animations to apply only to windows.
[23:31] <soundray> _maw: the only one I know of. What's the problem with old?
[23:31] <_maw> might not work with "new" :P
[23:31] <michael__> unocrash: go into system/prefrences/advanced desktop effects
[23:31] <_maw> soundray: have you heard of .dcf music files?
[23:31] <unocrash> nvm
[23:32] <unocrash> michael_: nvm. I disabled animations.
[23:32] <DOOM_NX> hello :)
[23:32] <michael__> unocrash: haha ok that works to
[23:32] <DOOM_NX> anyone willing to help me with an XChat really simple question?
[23:32] <LukeL_> Just ask it
[23:32] <Mathman> DOOM_NX: spose you'll never know until you actually ask the question
[23:33] <unocrash> will the login/logout plugin interfere with the KDE 4 environment i have set up along with Gnome?
[23:33] <Bsims> Got a question, skype's font is un antialiased any ideas?
[23:33] <kraypius> how can i resolve this apt issue? http://pastebin.ca/971702
[23:33] <soundray> _maw: no
[23:33] <DOOM_NX> okay so: how do i turn on rejoin on kick?
[23:33] <boxybrown> will https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixCompleteVirtualMailSystemHowto work with hardy?
[23:33] <michael__> hmmm back to my mp3 prob were can i find my xine lib??
[23:34] <soundray> boxybrown: ask in #ubuntu+1
[23:34] <boxybrown> ok
[23:34] <Mighty_Penguin> could someone explain to me the differences between server edition, alternative, and minimal editions?
[23:34] <_maw> soundray: they're a new type of drm file used on cell phones. want to convert to mp3
[23:34] <Mighty_Penguin> i know what minimal ubuntu is
[23:34] <_maw> soundray: was thinking of ways to work around it
[23:34] <Mighty_Penguin> but are they all the same?
[23:35] <erle64-> alternative is only another setup cd
[23:35] <erle64-> it installs the same system
[23:35] <erle64-> it has no live desktop on it
[23:35] <Mighty_Penguin> it installs the ubuntu-desktop?
[23:35] <LukeL_> Mighty_Penguin alternative is the same, but it doesn't use the liveCD to install it has a different installation
[23:35] <erle64-> but a text based installer only
[23:35] <michael__> anyone know were i can get the totem mp3 plugins???
[23:35] <Mighty_Penguin> alternative is the same as minimal, only not net install?
[23:36] <erle64-> Mighty_Penguin, the minimal cd has no packages on cd
[23:36] <amenado> Mighty_Penguin-> nope
[23:36] <erle64-> it downloads everything from the internet during the installation
[23:37] <erle64-> there is no difference in the resulting installation
[23:37] <Mighty_Penguin> OK, so the alternative install just isnt live.. it still installs the desktop? correct?
[23:37] <sobczyk> hi, I tried to write a script that monitors mem usage, though it is not working as I though, any of you can give me a hint? http://wklej.org/txt/e21c00bb3b
[23:37] <Mighty_Penguin> ok
[23:37] <erle64-> normal: live desktop with eye candy installer
[23:37] <erle64-> alternative: text based installer
[23:37] <michael__> yeah but the minimal isnt always the best unless your sure you arent going to need any of the packages like i got my wifi working with just packages on my cd other words id have no internet
[23:37] <erle64-> minimal: only installer, packages come from the internet
[23:37] <Mighty_Penguin> i dont want the livecd installer or a desktop, ok
[23:38] <knobcottage> jessica I've just checked my list and you need a distorting proxy in America, might work then
[23:38] <Mighty_Penguin> so whats the difference between server and minimal edition?
[23:38] <Mighty_Penguin> seems to me that they install just about the same packages
[23:38] <erle64-> Mighty_Penguin, server edition is a type of installation, not a type of installation cd
[23:38] <erle64-> minimal may install a full desktop
[23:39] <LukeL_> server is built to better handle a server pc, ie more kernal time\memory to daemons, no eye candy/frills
[23:39] <michael__> well thats like asking the difference between a chevy and a ford mighty_duck
[23:39] <Mighty_Penguin> .. so. the server edition doesnt install a command line system? sorry but you just got me confused
[23:39] <soundray> erle64-: there are server installation cds, though
[23:40] <erle64-> soundray, that are only alternative-like cds
[23:40] <erle64-> the difference ist the packages, which are on cd
[23:40] <lusius> #wine
[23:40] <init_6> What's the Hardy channel?
[23:40] <erle64-> so you do not need to download them
[23:40] <erle64-> init_6, there is a chan called #ubuntu-testing
[23:40] <soundray> !minimal | Mighty_Penguin
[23:40] <ubotu> Mighty_Penguin: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[23:40] <soundray> !server | Mighty_Penguin
[23:40] <ubotu> Mighty_Penguin: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[23:40] <init_6> erle64 thanks
[23:41] <soundray> init_6: you're looking for #ubuntu+1
[23:41] <dallasd> hey
[23:41] <Mighty_Penguin> erle64-:  you confused me by saying that the server edition was a type of installation
[23:41] <aryr100> hello all
[23:41] <Mighty_Penguin> thanks for the help
[23:41] <erle64-> Mighty_Penguin, the difference is: "what packages are on the cd?"
[23:42] <erle64-> packages which are not on cd, you must install from the net
[23:42] <aryr100> were can i find a kernel-smp ? using 8.04 not in repo's ?
[23:42] <Mighty_Penguin> well i dont really care for whats on the cd, i wanted to know what the differences was when after you install the server edition and minimal edition
[23:42] <erle64-> aryr100, the generic kernel is SMP
[23:42] <Mighty_Penguin> they seem pretty much the same
[23:42] <portablejim> Anyone know how to install Latex "packages" individually instead of having to do a whole bunch?
[23:42] <erle64-> aryr100, it is in gutsy SMP as well
[23:42] <soundray> aryr100: hardy questions in #ubuntu+1 please... All kernels since feisty have been SMP by default
[23:43] <aryr100> why no dual process support ?
[23:43] <erle64-> Mighty_Penguin, the minimal edition is no flavor of installed system
[23:43] <erle64-> its only a smaller cd
[23:43] <VaX13> Can you manually modify the system uptime ?
[23:43] <newusr> hi all i updated my 7.10 to the current version and my screen resolution is dead i cant get more than 800x600 any help
[23:43] <erle64-> it installs nothing special
[23:43] <Mighty_Penguin> erle64-: .. i know what it is
[23:43] <unocrash> comp. crash
[23:43] <unocrash> eh
[23:43] <soundray> aryr100: there is dual-processor support by default
[23:43] <Mighty_Penguin> i want to know what the differences are in the system's itself
[23:44] <erle64-> Mighty_Penguin, the differences between server and desktop?
[23:44] <erle64-> minimal installs a normal desktop
[23:44] <aryr100> kk will look again
[23:44] <Mighty_Penguin> like once i have installed minimal and server, whats the differences between them on the hard disk... is what i'm asking
[23:44] <erle64-> nothing different
[23:44] <aryr100> must have ran wrong cmd
[23:44] <Mighty_Penguin> minimal installs a cli system..
[23:44] <erle64-> no
[23:44] <amenado> Mighty_Penguin-> what exactly is your concern? if we can turn around and ask you instead?
[23:45] <erle64-> the only difference of minimal to the normal cd is that there are no packages on the cd
[23:45] <michael__> hey anyone know the difference between the kubuntu restricted extras and the ubuntu restricted extras?
[23:45] <erle64-> the installation will download it from the internet while installing
[23:45] <unocrash> Is there a Mac OSX Emulator for Linux?
[23:45] <unocrash> or ubuntu to be specific.
[23:45] <michael__> unocrash: im sure you could probably find one
[23:45] <unocrash> kk
[23:46] <erle64-> Mighty_Penguin, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[23:46] <happyface_> When I start Ubuntu, it mounts my windows share on the desktop, but when I access it, it says "couldn't display all the contents"
[23:46] <Mighty_Penguin> amenado: i just want to know the difference between the Ubuntu server edition (not cd, its 400something mbs and has the packages on the cd, and installs a cli system) the minimal system is 9mbs and is a net install, it also installs a cli system, i want to know what the difference is between the two... once they are installed on a hard disk, any differences in packages installed etc..
[23:46] <unocrash> michael_: Well..... 1. One is for kubuntu and the others for Ubuntu
[23:46] <soundray> Mighty_Penguin: the kernels are different
[23:46] <erle64-> Mighty_Penguin, i think you did not understand
[23:47] <erle64-> the normal cd and the minimal cd install the same system
[23:47] <Mighty_Penguin> normal meaning the livecd?
[23:47] <erle64-> the server cd installs a little different system
[23:47] <erle64-> yes
[23:47] <Mighty_Penguin> erm
[23:47] <erle64-> read that: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[23:47] <Mighty_Penguin> dude, i've installed the minimal cd serveral times ending up ina  cli system..
[23:47] <robm2> I recently added a 2nd hd and I shared a folder on the new hd via samba, however the windows computer crashes everytime it tries to access the new share.
[23:48] <genii> Mighty_Penguin: The server installs a kernel optimised for server applications. Also some applications like apache2 mysql and php. The minimal system basically only makes you a bootable box with some tools, which you then use to install what you need over internet.
[23:48] <Mighty_Penguin> thank you genii !
[23:48] <erle64-> Mighty_Penguin, then its because of the options you choose
[23:48] <amenado> Mighty_Penguin-> are your concern about missing a package? a tool? a service? what is it you need to satisfy your needs?
[23:48] <Mighty_Penguin> genii answered my question as i needed...
[23:49] <Xorothal> how can I get tinyproxy to allow connections on eth0?
[23:49] <unocrash> I just installed the ubuntustudio-look package!
[23:49] <mario> join #ubuntu_de
[23:49] <Mighty_Penguin> i dont see how that was so hard, sorry for the frustration
[23:49] <unop_> Mighty_Penguin, the minimal CD is useful if you want a system but have no need for a fully fledged desktop too
[23:49] <Mighty_Penguin> i know..
[23:49] <erle64-> Mighty_Penguin, i have to sorry
[23:49] <Mighty_Penguin> i use the minimal cd alot..
[23:49] <mario> how i come in the german ubuntu ??
[23:49] <Mighty_Penguin> i just didnt know the system differences between the minimal and the server is all
[23:50] <unop_> !de | mario
[23:50] <ubotu> mario: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[23:50] <BrainBug> anyone, i still try to install Xubuntu, but somewhere in the install he tries to mount my CD-ROM , and he give an error " unable to mount CD-ROM" so i cant continue... anyone can help?
[23:50] <Mighty_Penguin> thanks for helping though erle64-
[23:50] <erle64-> but the minimal installation is the same like a desktop installation, if you install the package "ubuntu-desktop"
[23:50] <mario> !de
[23:50] <erle64-> it are the same packages
[23:50] <Xorothal> guys?
[23:50] <erle64-> but it are less
[23:50] <mario> unop what do you want ?
[23:50] <Xorothal> can you help me comfigure tinyproxy
[23:50] <unop_> Mighty_Penguin, the server CD installs all the LAMP applications, apache, mysql, php etc .. the minimal CD doesnt
[23:50] <mario> #ubuntu-de
[23:50] <soundray> mario: enter /join #ubuntu-de
[23:50] <Mighty_Penguin> unop_: thanks.. i got that now :)
[23:50] <mario> thx
[23:51] <BixBox> I bought an Acountant Program and its include firebird database server for linux. When I install it on Fodora its running well, but when I migrate to ubuntu, its error when I install it
[23:51] <su6s> всем пламенное привет. есть кто живой?
[23:51] <joh> Firefox broken for anyone else on hardy? It's suddenly extremely slow now and hangs every 10 seconds.
[23:52] <unop_> BixBox, explain a bit more about the errors you get
[23:52] <soundray> joh: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[23:52] <joh> soundray: Alright, thanks
[23:52] <unocrash> joh: Im on Hardy and im fine. try ubuntu+1
[23:52] <robm2> I recently added a 2nd hd and I shared a folder on the new hd via samba, however the windows computer crashes everytime it tries to access the new share.
[23:52] <amenado> BixBox-> same rpm? what is missing? what errors were you getting?
[23:52] <genii> !ru | su6s
[23:52] <ubotu> su6s: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[23:52] <Mighty_Penguin> i didnt mean to offend anyone, its just no one was understanding my question..
[23:53] <unop_> Mighty_Penguin, no one was offended, we were just asking questions to understand where you were coming from? :)
[23:53] <unocrash> :-)
[23:53] <amenado> Mighty_Penguin-> because you didnt exactly specify what your concerns are..perhaps if you did, it would be easier to comprehend the context of your question
[23:53] <su6s> hey, have you any thoughts to go with gentoo?
[23:53] <Xorothal> tiny proxy is not working
[23:53] <Mighty_Penguin> sorry, for that
[23:54] <unocrash> gentoo?
[23:54] <su6s> yes :)
[23:54] <unocrash> ?????:-/
[23:54] <unop_> su6s, if you'd like to have no hair by the time you are 40 but also be very competent with linux, then gentoo is the right distro -- more on that in #gentoo :)
[23:54] <Xorothal> can someone help me configure tinyproxy?
[23:54] <mehmet> when i do the 192.168.1.1. on windows it works but on ubuntu it doesn't
[23:54] <su6s> it`s more educative, imho/ planning to try gentoo
[23:54] <BixBox> its the error
[23:55] <mehmet> what's the link for ubuntu
[23:55] <amenado> mehmet-> come again? what were you doing?
[23:55] <BixBox> Starting Firebird server: check $FIREBIRD/firebird.log file for errors
[23:55] <BixBox> can not start server
[23:55] <BixBox> GSEC> GSEC>
[23:55] <FloodBot1> BixBox: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:55] <mehmet> i'm trying to get into my router
[23:55] <Mighty_Penguin> the reason why i was asking the differences in the server edition and minimal edition is cause i knew the server edition had all the packages on the cd and didnt download anything from the net, the minimal does download stuff from the net and i kept getting error downloading file etc.. so i thought the server was the same as the minimal but you didnt need the internet for it
[23:55] <mehmet> on windows 192.168.1.1. this made me go to it
[23:55] <Xorothal> I'm "getting the proxy is refusing connections" from ff when I access it from 172.168.0.3 (I am on 172.168.0.2)
[23:55] <BixBox> ok, sorry
[23:55] <mehmet> on ubuntu it doesn't
[23:55] <unocrash> !gentoo
[23:55] <ubotu> Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)
[23:55] <happyface_> I don't get a spalsh screen when starting Ubuntu and my Ctr+Alt+F1-6 consoles do not appear. Can anyone help?
[23:56] <arang2> guys i have a problem when i open my gmail the processor spikes high to the 80 or 99% in firefox 2.0.0.13 im using ubuntu gutsy 32 bits in a core 2 duo t5250
[23:56] <soundray> happyface_: does it boot into X though?
[23:56] <Xorothal> HELLO?
[23:56] <arang2> when i switch to older version it works ok but  the newer version eats all the processor
[23:56] <genixpro> I'm downloading several version of Ubuntu to run in virtual pc's to make packages for my program www.globulation2.org . I'm wondering if theres any tips/considerations I should know about before hand
[23:56] <arang2> help please
[23:56] <mehmet> anyone?
[23:56] <unop_> Xorothal, is 172.168.0.0 your LAN addressing scheme?
[23:56] <amenado> mehmet-> do you have an ethernet interface? wireless? can you paste your ifconfig;  route -n  in pastebin please
[23:57] <unocrash> !patience | Xorothal mehmet arang2
[23:57] <ubotu> Xorothal mehmet arang2: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[23:57] <robm2> I recently added a 2nd hd and I shared a folder on the new hd via samba, however the windows computer crashes everytime it tries to access the new share. Anyone know what would cause this?
[23:57] <happyface_> soundray: yes indeed it does
[23:57] <unocrash> !patience | reminder
[23:57] <ubotu> reminder: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[23:57] <Xorothal> unop_: yes
[23:57] <unop_> !bot abuse | unocrash
[23:57] <ubotu> unocrash: Please don't play with the bots, or else... Also see !behaviour and !msgthebot
[23:57] <BrainBug> anyone can help? iam trying to install ubuntu on my old pc, it has 1 opt. drive 1 hdd and somewhere in the install i get an error "unable to mount CD-ROM" any ideas ?
[23:57] <soundray> genixpro: not that your question is offtopic, but maybe you'll get more/better answers in #ubuntu-motu
[23:57] <unocrash> whops!
[23:58] <unocrash> :-(
[23:58] <Xorothal> unop_: but I have static IPs
[23:58] <soundray> !motu | genixpro
[23:58] <ubotu> genixpro: motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[23:58] <Jordan_U> BrainBug, Are you using the alternate install CD?
[23:58] <BrainBug> yes
[23:58] <BixBox> its the error msg when I install it >>> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62187/
[23:58] <giordani> I have one question!!! help me please!!!
[23:58] <Jordan_U> BrainBug, Too little RAM for the LiveCD installer?
[23:58] <Starnestommy> giordani: just ask your question
[23:58] <unop_> Xorothal, well that could be your problem -- 172.168.0.0 is not for private/LAN use, it is a public address range -- you should change that to use addresses within the range of - 172.16.0.0 - 172.32.255.255
[23:58] <Jordan_U> !ask | giordani
[23:58] <ubotu> giordani: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[23:58] <michael__> giordani: whats up ?
[23:59] <genixpro> thankyou soundray
[23:59] <Xorothal> unop_: I didn't realise, I thought it was private
[23:59] <unocrash> giordani: what ubotu said
[23:59] <happyface_> any ideas, soundray?
[23:59] <BrainBug> Jordan_u, i dont use the live cd :) i use alternate so is text based but normally if i would i even could install from live cd... but it just for server
[23:59] <roeinstein> what is the command to load up the file browser to the file system? I want to add a icon on my desktop like a "my computer" icon
[23:59] <giordani> when i shut down my laptop after 1 minute himself power on
[23:59] <comicinker> how can I make a #define SOMETHING as a parameter for gcc?
[23:59] <giordani> why is that?
[23:59] <ryanzec_> When i try to load ubuntu 8.04 from the beta cd(64-bit) I have to set my video settings and then the loading stops with the last line of loading boot scripts.  it was like that for a mins before i restart, does that take very long?  anything else that might cause this issue?
[23:59] <erle-> Mighty_Penguin, one advantage of server kernel to the desktop: support of 64 gigs of mem in 32 bit version
[23:59] <soundray> happyface_: oops, missed your reply, sorry
[23:59] <giordani> i'm on ubuntu 7.10