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jordan_thx for your time either way00:00
jordan_gonna sit and try to learn00:00
geniihmm, 2.6.2400:00
spiroogenii: Yes, I have an "old" version of ubuntu in school. There I have hda :D00:01
Kr|ptiXgenii : u kno anything bout intel drivers?00:01
RDCstdin: following your instructions i now have a prompt: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62189/00:01
RDCcan you advise?00:02
geniiKr|ptiX: Intel driver for what devices?00:02
stdinRDC: I tend to just hit "Y" on those, to get the latest version00:02
geniiKr|ptiX: nvm I see now 945GM00:02
spirooHow does labelling in NTFS partitions work then? Is there nothing like it in ext partiions? Would be nice to see in future if not ;) Not a request though :P00:02
Kr|ptiXgenii : yeah :)00:02
spirooI like to rename my music partition to Harmony :) Feels much nicer than sd7 :D00:03
spiroo*sda700:03
geniiKr|ptiX: Thats the same video this laptop uses, the i915 driver works fine with it00:03
Kr|ptiXgenii where do i get it :) im totally new on update drivers00:04
jordan_are there any other desktops apart from gnome and kde00:04
hyperactivecrondjordan_: yes.00:05
jordan_what ones???00:05
RDCk, stdin: wish me luck... rebooting...thx again!00:05
stdingl :)00:05
geniiKr|ptiX: AFAIK it's the default one, i didn't use any restricted etc etc.00:05
spirooIs it possible to run svn-packages? For instance if I wanna run latest Amarok2 changes ... ?00:05
Kr|ptiXgenii huh u lost me00:06
jordan_is berile one as i heard you can customize that alot00:06
hyperactivecrondjordan_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8727600:06
maurokdealguien que hable español?00:06
jordan_ty00:06
hyperactivecrondmaurokde:  /join #ubuntu-es00:06
hyperactivecrond!es | maurokde00:06
ubotumaurokde: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.00:06
maurokdeconocen algun servidor de kubuntu en español¿?00:06
maurokdeok thnks00:06
hyperactivecrondmaurokde: debes entrar el canal #kubuntu-es - alli hay personas que pueden contestar sus preguntas.00:07
vitkmos00:08
hyperactivecrondlook at me, bustin out the spanish00:08
AzzcoAnyone know how to determine what dsp device is mic with OSS? Can't find any documentation..00:10
spirooNot that Konversation is not good, not at all. Jsut wondering if it will be ported to KDE4 later?00:11
jordan_that was cool thread00:12
Jucatospiroo: it will be00:12
stdinspiroo: eventually, but there will be a kde3 release first00:12
Jucatoporting will start after the last KDE 3 release (1.1)00:12
spirooJucato: allright :)00:12
spiroonice00:12
ruistdin: (rdc here) thx again, you are a legend!00:12
hyperactivecrondjordan_: i think you want compiz-fusion. that gives you the nice desktops. but that runs on top of kde / gnome/ other wm00:12
stdinrui: I take it that worked then :)00:12
spirooLooking forward to see future KDE4. Damn as they working on KDE.00:13
Jucatorui: he's ancient!00:13
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jordan_compiz-fusion thats gives the 3d cube effect for screen change right??00:13
jordan_or other effects00:13
ruii'm wondering where i should post your instructions so someone else can benefit... any suggestions?00:13
hyperactivecrondjordan_: yes00:13
stdinin the forum maybe00:13
stdin!forum00:13
ubotuThe Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.00:13
jordan_i was more thinking changign the look of the menus etc and colours00:14
ruioh yes, that it did my friend... i'm back in business... and off to read up on the commands you suggested that got me out of this mess00:14
Ze_Mrui: q passa00:14
Ze_MRiddell: ping00:15
RiddellZe_M: hmm?00:16
Ze_MRiddell: do you mind talk in private?00:16
pidusdwidmann: I could fix that :D00:17
spirooKeep up the good work everyone. GNU/Linux will conquer the throne soon! :D Going to bed now, ciao.00:17
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jhutchins_wk!find perl-Time-HiRes00:22
ubotuNo packages matching 'perl-time-hires' could be found00:22
jhutchins_wk!find apache-suexec00:22
ubotuNo packages matching 'apache-suexec' could be found00:23
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stdinthe !find and !info functions are currently broken, use http://packages.ubuntu.com00:24
jhutchins_wktnx00:24
Nyadhow do I get the values of environment variables? like $path?00:24
ruithx again stdin... in honour of your assistance... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4654099#post465409900:24
stdinNyad: echo $PATH00:24
Nyadtnx00:25
stdinor "env" to print them all00:25
Nyadecho env just prints env00:25
stdinrui: glad go it working00:25
stdinNyad: no, just "env", no "echo"00:26
stdinI'd pipe that through less generally, like "env | less"00:26
Nyadhow do I exit that thing?00:27
stdinpress "q"00:27
nosrednaekimor control+c00:27
Nyadcntrl+z seems to do the same thing00:27
stdinctrl-z suspends it, not exit00:28
stdinso it's still running in the background00:28
Nyadok. what's a good ssh client?00:28
stdinI just use ssh00:29
Nyadsudo apt-get install ssh?00:29
stdinno, that'd install the ssh server, the client is already installed00:29
Nyadwoops00:29
stdinuse "ssh username@hostname" to use it00:29
Nyadshould I remove the server or is it not serious?00:30
stdinremove it unless you want to be able to login remotely over the network00:30
Nyadok00:31
Nyadif I do want to log into my pc from somewhere else how would I do that?00:32
stdinyou just need to know it's IP address or DNS name. then you do "ssh (your user name)@(your IP/hostname)"00:32
stdinyou can set host aliases locally by editing /etc/hosts or using the GUI (System Settings -> Network Settings ->(Administrator Mode) -> Domain Name System )00:34
Nyadtnx00:35
AzzcoIsn't there any ossmixer?00:40
Nyadhow do I change environment variables? like this,  $CVSROOT="mychanges"00:41
stdinNyad: just remove the $00:41
Nyadok00:42
jayHowdy.  Downloaded the latest beta of Kubuntu, trying to figure out where on the alt boot CD the RAID options are.  I see LVM just fine, but I want the whole thing to exist on a RAID1.00:48
DarkJusticeHi, I've got a fresh install of kubuntu on a machine I'd like to network with my XP box, samba sees the shared folders on the kubuntu but doesn't see my XP box and I"ve also tried to add a user in smbusers but when I try to make the password it tells me Failed to modify password entry for user00:51
jayI know the Fedora installer has RAID options built into the partition manager, but I don't see somewhere to set that in Kubuntu.00:51
jayUnfortunately I don't really have the option to use the latest stable, as some of my hardware (SATA controller, for starters) is unsupported.00:53
hummessehey everybody. The name of my desktop folder is named after the translation of "desktop" into danish, but i want it named "Desktop". How do i do that?01:02
jayhummesse: Start up a terminal, and type "mv $DANISH_NAME Desktop"01:05
hummesseok and thats it? nice.. thanks01:05
geniihummesse: Not all, look here for other http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=452776601:05
hummesseok thanks again01:06
jayDoh, forgot that part; sorry. :-)01:06
geniijay: :)01:06
jayKinda new to Linux on the desktop, I'm used to living in serverland...01:08
jayJust can't figure out how to get RAID1 working on install...01:09
Connor.01:15
hm_linuxreality01:20
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Nyadhm thats a good podcast01:22
linuxguymarshallWhat is the command for opening up restricted drivers?01:22
banumiel:D01:24
hm_I really enjoy the information presented by Chess Griffin01:25
Nyadlinuxguymarshall:  isn't there an icon for doing that?01:25
Nyadalso the system settings01:25
hm_#linuxreality01:27
linuxguymarshallnyad:no there is  no setting01:28
linuxguymarshallnyad: Nvm, I have played with terminal and accessed it.01:29
dekis there a KDE GUI for Vim?01:30
Nyadkmenu-->system settings   advance tab  -->restricted drivers01:36
tindek: not kde specific, but there is a gtk gui for vim01:40
jeremedoes anyone have a problem with the system hanging when logging out of X...  7.10, ATI card01:41
tinbut unless you LOVE vim, kate is a great KDE editor01:41
tinjereme: what ati drivers? i've had some problems, i actually don't use kdm anymore, just console logins and startx01:41
jeremethe pkg ati drivers I think, let me look again01:42
tini've got an x1050 (rv360 according to Xorg), and i'm using the oldish 8.43 drivers i think, they're from november i think01:42
jeremeyeah the ones ubuntu provides01:42
tinnewer ones gave me weird problems getting the screen dimensions i wanted01:42
jereme0.0.1+git20070918-1ubuntu101:43
tin1152x864 isn't THAT weird, is it?01:43
jeremeno01:43
jereme2x1 is weird01:43
tinjereme: try new ones from ati, i actually kind of recall a fix for logout hangs in a recent version01:43
tinati's installer can even make packages for you, so apt knows about all the stuff they install01:44
jeremefrom what the internets at googles are telling me, it might be related to framebuffer support01:44
jeremeyeah the ATI drivers do it too01:44
jeremetried that awhile back01:44
jeremenow I'm trying to get office 2k3 working in crossover and I'm finally tired of the lockups when I go to reboot01:45
tinwhat card? because kernel framebuffer support for most cards is shite01:45
jereme9700 I think01:45
tinhmm, that's r300 series01:45
tini think framebuffer support for them is crap, try taking that out of the kernel01:46
tinand/or try turning off kdm and starting X manually01:46
tinif you don't need kdm's multiple simultaneous session handling, you won't even notice the diff01:47
jeremeha there's a whole list of folks who have solved it by switching from DVI to D-SUB01:47
tinnow that's weird, and sucky01:47
Dr_willisd-sub? Huh.. that the new replacement for dvi?01:47
jeremeno kidding01:47
Dr_willisI aint even seen one of those yet. heh01:47
jeremeDr_willis: it's the newest thing... now we don't have to bother with that digital signal anymore01:47
jeremewe can enjoy the wonderment of amazing analog signal!01:48
Dr_willisWe need USB monitor conectors!01:48
jeremetired of crisp images and perfect fonts?01:48
Dr_willis:)01:48
Dr_willisbut your movies now have auto-anti-aliasing!01:48
jeremeI'm more into pro-aliasing..01:49
jeremechunk that text up for me a bit01:49
jeremeit's too readable01:49
Dr_willisC64 emulation01:49
tinwell, raw pixels of 1024x768x32bpp@60Hz is 180 MB per second01:50
jeremethere you go tin... check out 320x20001:50
tinthat's more than full speed usb201:50
jeremecommodore had it right01:50
tinor hi speed, whatever the fastest one is, 400 Mbit per s01:50
jeremeone of the owners of the co. I work for had a usb monitor01:50
Dr_willistin,  i did see some mention of a usb monitor - in a pc mag.01:50
jeremebut returned it right away01:50
jeremeI guess it was horrid01:50
jeremeoh yeah they definitely exist, we briefly had them01:51
Dr_willistin,  aparentlyu the video card was in the moniitor not the pc.01:51
jeremeyup, and it's a crappy card01:51
tinnow, a graphics processor on usb would be feasible01:51
jeremeit looks like dsub on a 50' unshielded cable01:51
SlimeyPetetin: it exists... someone released one a while ago now01:51
SlimeyPeteapparently it was pretty naff01:51
jeremewrapped around a power substation01:51
tincould be even more feasible with a vector drawing system01:52
tinbecause then nly commands get sent over usb, not image data01:52
tin640x480x32bpp@30Hz is only 55MBps01:53
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tinthat's kind of doable with usb201:53
SlimeyPete24bpp is fine for most applications anyway01:53
tintransparency's becoming all the rage though01:54
jeremebrb01:54
nonewmsgsdo people pay for bsd01:55
geniinonewmsgs: Not usually01:55
SlimeyPetedoubt it, but I imagine people pay for support.01:55
nonewmsgssomeone said that bsd official ISOs are warez and that threw me off01:56
SlimeyPetethey're wrong.01:56
nonewmsgsSlimeyPete:  thanks01:58
yao_ziyuancan installing realplayer for linux compromise my security?02:00
patoe1yo02:01
SlimeyPetehi.02:01
patoe1im just wondering, iv been talking to soem people and they say xubuntu is better then kubuntu02:02
patoe1whats the diffrence?02:02
nonewmsgspatoe1: to get xubuntu too as see for yourself all you have to do is type sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop02:02
JucatoKubuntu uses KDE. Xubuntu uses Xfce.02:02
Jucato!xfce | patoe102:03
ubotupatoe1: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels02:03
SlimeyPetekubuntu uses KDE for its desktop environment, Xubuntu uses XFCE. Basically, they look different and have different apps installed by default.02:03
SlimeyPeteIt's all a matter of taste - they're the same system underneath.02:03
patoe1ok02:03
patoe1someone just said that "No, Kubuntu is KDE. You don't want to use KDE as it is used for gay sex activities, etc."02:03
patoe1:p02:03
* Jucato sighs02:04
nonewmsgsi do have a lesbian video but i think i had to download that on my own02:04
patoe1lol02:04
Jucato!language02:04
ubotuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.02:04
SlimeyPetetime for slashignore02:04
* patoe1 laughs, and says sorry02:04
jeremewow.. I just learned that he sysrequest key can get me out of a hard lockup02:04
jeremethat's pretty cool02:04
neville_how?!02:04
jeremeI did alt+sysreq and held that down while I pressed and released s, then u, then b02:05
jeremewhich stand for (s)ync disk, (u)nmount and re(b)oot02:05
jeremeand even though I was seemingly frozen solid, I rebooted02:05
jerememy capslock wasn't even working, but this worked02:05
neville_Ooh02:06
neville_Sounds like something only a contortionist can achieve :P02:06
jeremewell crawling under my desk to find the power button also requires a contortionist02:06
jeremeand I noodle on guitar, so it's not much harder than some chords I've played02:07
patoe1sysreq is the windows key if you have a keyboard made for windows right ;)02:08
patoe1?02:08
jeremenope02:08
jeremeit's the other half of the print screen key02:08
patoe1oh haha i see it now02:08
patoe1thanks02:08
patoe1grrr, hat head02:08
patoe1533kb/s not bad...02:09
patoe1i gess ill be back02:09
patoe1peace02:09
jeremecrapping eh... crossover is pissing me off02:10
patoe1no im installing xubuntu02:10
patoe1i hope sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop is the right command02:10
patoe1:p02:10
Jucatohttp://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/xubuntu02:11
nonewmsgsyes and you can just switch on the login screen02:11
patoe1for my defult display manager do i want  gdm or kdm?02:12
nonewmsgspatoe1: they both work02:12
patoe1is one better then the other?02:12
lord-kelvinHello Everyone02:12
nonewmsgspatoe1: i think once i picked kdm and i had to logout before i did a shut down.02:13
patoe1hah ok,,,02:13
Jucatoold bug02:13
nonewmsgsJucato: most likely but people remember those far after they've been squashed02:14
nonewmsgsi didnt mean to be a jerk but for that reason i have always selected gdm afterwards02:14
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stefanoshey guys!02:23
stefanosKonqueror doesnt load any website. Am I doing something wrong?02:24
karllenzhey im having a hardtime getting wifi to work on my mac using ndiswrapper02:26
karllenzi follow the ubuntu wiki instructions to the t02:27
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yao_ziyuanhow do i disable remote login?02:40
yao_ziyuanmy root password is 9 chars long02:41
samuelI got a question02:41
yao_ziyuanhow long are you guys' passwords?02:41
samuelfor the new hardy heron is there a certain javascript update I need to run?02:41
yao_ziyuani'm gonna extend my password to 16 chars02:42
nonewmsgsmine is 902:52
nonewmsgsi wish that passphrases instead of passwords became the norm02:52
Dr_willisi always use 'password' for my password! no one ever guesses that02:54
Dr_willis:)02:54
Daisuke-Idothe big question would be why did that dummy (and i use that term will all of the malice one can possibly imagine) even enable root?02:54
moregreenhey dr willis02:55
moregreenfor non secure shit,  its fun using password with a lisp02:55
moregreen:P02:55
Daisuke-Idoheh02:55
Dr_willishmm.. by default remote login is disabled...02:55
* Dr_willis reads the history buffer some more.02:56
Daisuke-Idoi actually considered using supercalifragilisticexpialidocious in "l337" speak as a password02:56
moregreenlol02:56
moregreenlashcord02:57
moregreenmashboard02:57
moregreenwashpord02:57
moregreenetc02:57
moregreenlol02:57
Dr_willisthers secure, then theres paranoid, then thers silly.. :)02:58
carloshola que tal??03:03
Odd-rationale!es | carlos03:04
ubotucarlos: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.03:04
moregreenhey my kubuntu is really fuckin up... anyone got this ?03:08
Daisuke-Ido!language | moregreen03:09
ubotumoregreen: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.03:09
moregreenok03:09
moregreenits always freezing03:09
moregreenout of nowhere.03:09
moregreenhow do i check the logs from my last session?03:10
fundais there something other than testdisk/photorec i can use to recover images from a screwed up ext3 partition?03:12
rmirandahola03:13
Fritzelwhat's the proper way to add a new user?03:23
LimCoreFritzel: adduser03:23
LimCoresurprisingly03:23
Fritzel-nod- yeah old school ^^ ok just making sure I wasn't missing a tool somewhere03:23
Fritzelthank you03:23
Daisuke-Idothere is a tool.03:23
Fritzelwhat's it called?03:23
Fritzelor rather wehre is it03:23
Fritzelwhere too03:24
Daisuke-Idodunno, not using kde anymore03:24
Daisuke-Idosystem settings, users, maybe03:24
p_quarlesnot to be a contrarian, but useradd is actually better for creating new users03:24
Fritzelwell it doesn't have to be anything fancy, I just want a certain program to run as a unique user,03:24
Fritzeladduser should work03:25
new_userhola03:31
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iceman1521hey, I need help deciding what linux distro I need...03:31
neville_Well, what are you after?03:32
iceman1521I have a really old computer and I just want it to be able to stream mp3s from my network03:32
iceman1521thats really all it needs to do03:32
neville_How old is really old?03:32
Daisuke-Idodefine really old03:32
iceman1521well its running windows 9503:32
iceman1521its a second hand computer so i'm not totally sure about how old03:32
Daisuke-Idoso at least a 48603:32
iceman1521its got 192 mb of ram03:32
Daisuke-Idooh, you should be fine03:33
Daisuke-Idogeexbox + nfs shares03:33
Daisuke-Idois one option03:33
iceman1521ok, i'll check that out, thanks03:33
otromashi!03:33
Daisuke-Idoiceman1521, is the old machine going to be the one holding or playing the songs?03:34
otromassomebody can recommend me any IM client?03:34
Daisuke-Idootromas, pidgin03:35
Daisuke-Idodoes aim, msn, yahoo, google, irc, jabber...03:35
otromasthank's Daisuke-Ido!03:35
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iceman1521sorry Daisuke, had to run to the bathroom...the old machine is going to be playing the songs03:44
patoe1xubuntu is better03:47
patoe1:D03:47
patoe1now that i tryed ot03:47
patoe1it03:47
Dr_willisfluxbuntu03:47
aurorahola03:47
Dr_willis:)03:47
aurorahola03:47
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Dr_willisI just install the xfce-desktop on my other machine. No need for me to use xubuntu.03:47
yordyhola03:47
patoe1well yea03:47
Dr_willisand the xfce desktop is lacking in some areas03:47
Dr_willisits nice in other ways. :)03:47
yordyalguen que able español03:48
patoe1im using xfce on kubuntu03:48
patoe1no hablo espanol seinor03:48
yordyde donde eres amor03:48
Dr_willis!es03:48
ubotuAquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.03:48
patoe1no hablo espanol seinor :p03:48
patoe1haha03:49
patoe1thats all i know how to say03:49
yordyok03:49
otromasyo yordy! pero no se mucho03:49
yordyespañol03:49
yordytu eres de donde03:49
patoe1i wish i was smart like Dr_Willis :(03:49
patoe1:'(03:50
Dr_willis!cookie | patoe103:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cookie - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:50
Dr_willisOh well..  :) cookies.. Hmm.  I have cookies i can bake! Brb.03:50
patoe1i get a cookie :D03:50
* patoe1 eats cookie before anyone can steal it03:50
patoe1is there an eqivelent to task manager in ubuntu?03:51
Odd-rationalepatoe1: ksysguard03:52
patoe1or kubuntu or xubuntu or w.e :p03:52
patoe1thanks03:52
otromasque necesitas yordy?03:52
patoe1time to kill firefox03:53
patoe1froze up03:53
iceman1521with geexbox will i be able to play mp3s from a networked windows pc?03:54
Dr_willisiceman1521,  i can with my geexbox :)03:54
Dr_willisGeexbox is .. a nifty  thing. I have my laptop setup with it as  grub boot option.03:55
Dr_willisI even watch videos and shoutcast streams03:55
iceman1521ok well I'm just wanting to turn this POS windows 95 computer into a music player to connect to a stereo03:56
iceman1521thats really all it needs to do03:56
Dr_willisgeexbox can do that. You can even isntall it to hard drive  if wanted.03:56
iceman1521ok great03:56
Odd-rationaleDr_willis: were you looking for the "helpersnack"  factiod?03:56
iceman1521I'm totally new to linux, I've been wanting to mess with it for years but never have and this seemed like the perfect time to do so03:57
Dr_willisOdd-rationale,  :) a lot of the old factoids are gone it seems.03:57
Dr_willisgeexbox is rather hands off linux. :)03:57
iceman1521well hands off seems like a good place to start03:57
Dr_willisYou can run the geexbox customizer tool onwindows and make a customized geexbox live cd, you can then install.03:57
iceman1521yeah, thats what I'm doing right now03:58
Dr_willisThen you can install geexbox to hard drive if you want to, or not.03:58
Dr_willisit boots very fast anyway from cd.03:58
Dr_willisive had a lot of issues with the 'next' testing release/version/beta of geexbox however. :(03:58
iceman1521yeah I'll probably install it to the hard drive, this computer has 6 gigs and its gonna have nothing else on except maybe some music03:58
iceman1521I'll definitely be sticking with a stable version03:59
Dr_willisI have geexbox on a 50mb partition, then ubuntu installed after that.04:00
Dr_willisi have grub set where i can boot geexbox if i want to.04:00
iceman1521I was also curious about this: is there a way to run linux while running windows, like run linux as a program of windows?04:00
Dr_willisiceman1521,  vmware, virtialbox, qemu let you run linux inside windows04:01
Dr_willisor ya can use them to run windows inside linux04:01
iceman1521ok cool, I'll check that out after I finish with this first project04:01
patoe1lol anyone heard of the linux box thingy?04:02
patoe1were your desktops are in a box and you can spin them and stuff04:02
Dr_willisYou mean the compiz cube?04:02
Dr_willis!compiz04:02
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion04:02
patoe1oh oh god thanks so much,,...04:03
patoe1cant wait haha04:03
patoe1thats so sweet04:03
iceman1521dr willis - any chance you wanna help me decide on what things I should choose on this geexbox generator cuz I'm a little lost on a lot of these options04:04
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peterjordanmorning all04:09
Dr_willisiceman1521,  most of them are not needed. i just always have it download./use all the codecs. and perhaps pick a theme. then i set the samba username/password for my lan04:09
Odd-rationalepeterjordan: hello04:09
Odd-rationalepatoe1: sudo apt-get install ccsm04:25
patoe1yea i got it04:26
patoe1and its amazing xD04:26
patoe1i just need to add more desktops...04:26
Odd-rationalepatoe1: open ccsm and go to general options, in the desktop siize tab, set h=4, v=1, and no. of desks=104:27
Dr_willisiceman1521,  if you use nfs - enable nfs. :) if not .. dont04:28
* Dr_willis eats all the cookies befor patoe1 can grab any more04:28
* patoe1 crys04:29
ahrd'you guys troubleshoot stuff here?04:29
Dr_willisyes we do.04:30
* Dr_willis gives patoe1 one more cookie.04:30
* patoe1 smiles and eats very quickly04:30
Fritzelif I'm trying to make a new startup script, and I use the proper 'update-rc.d' to set it up, do I need to send the application to the background with & or does the system take care of that for me? I don't want to get stuck halfway through the boot process04:32
ahrkool so is anybody up on 'gspca'?04:32
* patoe1 runs to the kitchen and makes a batch of cookies and brings them back04:33
iceman1521Once I burn a Geexbox image, how do I install it to my hard drive?04:33
Dr_willishavent read their docs yet? :)04:34
Dr_willistype 'install' at the grub: prompt04:34
iceman1521lol no i gues not04:34
Dr_willisor was it grub: geexbox install04:34
Dr_willisOne of those04:34
Dr_willisYou can even keep video/audio files on the hd for geexbox to find.04:35
iceman1521well I plan on wiping the hard drive clean when I install it04:35
iceman1521I just got this computer for free from somebody who didn't want it so I don't need anything it has04:35
patoe1and another question how do i do networking on this?? like so i can look at the files on my other computer04:40
patoe1....04:44
gphello04:46
gpi want to make a custom unbuntu distro04:46
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thepiratemanhey04:47
thepiratemancan someone help me installing kubuntu, the partition part is really messed up04:47
thepiratemanwhen i come to the prepare partitions part04:48
thepiratemanit only finds /dev/sda04:48
thepiratemaneven though i already have ubuntu and windows installed04:48
thepiratemani just want to reinstall kubuntu ya know?04:48
thepiratemanfresh install04:49
DarkestHourHey guys, i'm running the KDE4 in 7.10 here, and how to i edit Kickoff/application launcher menu?04:49
Azzco#kubuntu-kde4 ?04:50
DarkestHourahh woops, totally didnt read that in the motd, lol, sorry04:50
thepiratemani guess not..04:55
ThayleHey I'm trying Kubuntu for the first time (and its also my first time trying linux in general) and when I try to select "Start and Install" form the CD menu it goes to a weird screen with green vertical lines going across the entire screen, and little colored bars throughout it.04:57
ThayleAnyone know how to fix this?04:58
DarkestHourthat seems to be a video problem, try a Text mode installation.04:58
DarkestHouri'll be back on in 30 min04:59
Thayleso i have to do a text mode installation theres no other way to fix this?04:59
GNUixI have a laptop with a broadcom wireless card (requires firmware cutter) so I purchased a belkin pcmcia card (model F5D7010) which according to the docs is supported with the rt2500 driver but it isn't picking up.. what else can I do?05:00
patoe1my cube isnt working now :(05:01
iceman1521does anybody have any experience with geexbox not having any volume?05:02
Fritzelhow can I set it so that a user can not login via a remote connection but can be su'd to05:06
patoe1does anyone know how to look at other networked computers05:06
patoe1Dr. Wilis you there?05:10
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patoe1!server05:12
ubotuUbuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support05:12
patoe1join #ubuntu-server05:13
Dr_willisHmm05:14
Dr_willisdefine 'look at' :)05:14
Dr_willis nmap -sP '192.168.1.*'05:14
Dr_willisscans my local network and shows what machines are up.05:14
iceman1521dr willis - do you know why my geexbox would have no volume and not allow me to adjust it?05:15
iceman1521when I press the volume up key the volume level thing comes up but doesn't change05:15
Mr_Sonomaanyone know of a good wiki for setting up printer sharing between a ubuntu and vista box? the ubuntu machine is the "server" and the vista machine is the "client" (laptop)05:17
patoe1ok i want to browes the files on the other computer and then run my music05:18
patoe1off the other computer so like a file browser05:18
Dr_willisThats what samba is all about patoe105:19
Dr_willisiceman1521,  are you using the proper keys to up/lower the volume? by default its / and 8 (or 9) for some odd reason05:20
Dr_willisi change them so i use / and . :)05:20
iceman1521yeah, it took me a minute to figure that out, but it still doesnt do anything05:20
Dr_willishit o to enable the on screen display05:22
Dr_willisand see if ya see the voluke bar go across.05:22
patoe1so i have to DL samba....05:22
Dr_willisive never had any issues with the sound. could be geexbox dont like your soundcard.05:22
Dr_willis!samba | patoe105:22
ubotupatoe1: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.05:22
Dr_willispatoe1,  you install samba. is proberly a good idea.05:23
Dr_willisYou also may want to use the smbfuse tool.05:23
iceman1521shit, i didn't even think about the sound card and i already wiped windows off05:23
Dr_willishttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/FuseSmb05:23
Dr_willisiceman1521,  a live cd test - would of been a good idea. :)05:24
Dr_willisthen install.. heh05:24
iceman1521yeah hindsight is 20/20 lol05:24
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Jcklwhile tring to mount my phone running windows mobile i use sudo modprobe coda but i am getting the error /sbin/mount.cefs: CODA kernel version mismatch:    anyone know how to get this working.. also its mobile 5.005:30
Jcklthe error actually follows the command mount /mnt/synce/05:32
secleinteerhi, i'm trying to burn flac files to an audio cd using k3b, but i'm getting an error saying the flac files can't be recognized by k3b05:37
secleinteerdo i need to install another package to add flac support to k3b?05:37
NickPrestasecleinteer, try installing "libk3b2-extracodecs".05:39
secleinteerNickPresta: i did05:39
secleinteerno change05:40
NickPrestasecleinteer, you have libflac8 as well?05:41
secleinteerNickPresta: yes05:41
dave11!adept fix05:42
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »05:42
NickPrestasecleinteer, hmm. I can add FLAC files to my audio project just fine. I have 'flac', 'libflac++6', 'libflac8' and 'k3b', 'libk3b2', 'libk3b2-extracodecs'.05:45
secleinteerNickPresta: i didn't have 'flac', installing it now05:46
NickPrestasecleinteer, that would probably explain it :)05:47
secleinteerNickPresta: still no luck05:47
NickPrestareally? That is really strange. Are you having a problem adding the FLAC files or does the error happen at the burn step?05:47
secleinteerNickPresta: adding them05:47
patoe1ok im back with yet another question05:48
patoe1sorry05:48
secleinteerNickPresta: "unable to handl the following files due to an unsupported format"05:48
patoe1:p05:48
NickPrestasecleinteer, check out this bug report. It could be a sample size problem: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=46319005:50
patoe1ok i want to freshly install a version of linux on this computer, im thinking xubuntu but i dont wnat to go through the desktop thing, i just want to install but i dont want to do it throught hte desktop install05:50
NickPrestapatoe1, there is an alternate install, which is text based and fairly quick.05:51
patoe1ok were do i get that?05:51
secleinteerNickPresta: yes, i think it is, i can add some other flac files just fine05:51
secleinteeri'll look into that, thanks for your help!05:51
dave11!slax05:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about slax - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:52
NickPrestasecleinteer, yep. Alternately, you may consider high quality Ogg Vorbis.05:52
patoe1!pie05:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pie - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:52
TeslaTonyDoesn anyone know how to set Opera to open torrent files rather than automatically downloading them?05:53
Dr_willisI was just on the SLAX homepage. :)05:53
secleinteerNickPresta: well if i can get the flac to work, i might as well use it05:53
secleinteeri'll look into the vorbis if i can't05:53
dave11lol05:53
Dr_willisi found opras torrent abilities.. a little lacking.05:53
patoe1ok were do i get the text base installer for xubuntu05:53
NickPrestapatoe1, from the Xubuntu homepage05:53
patoe1...ok05:54
Dr_willis!compiz05:54
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion05:54
NickPrestapatoe1, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/gutsy/release/05:54
nonewmsgspotoe1 did you get xubuntu05:56
patoe1?05:56
dave11went nuts yesterday and downloaded 7  live cds05:56
patoe1and i want Alternate install CD05:57
NickPrestapatoe1, see the link I gave you05:57
patoe1im there05:57
patoe1im looking to know witch one i download now05:57
TeslaTonyDr_willis: Even though I use GNOME most of the time, KTorrent is my favorite Linux torrent program. However, I prefer Opera as a browser, except for that *#@&$! torrent issue (I have to download .torrent files, then open them)05:58
NickPrestapatoe1, the Alternate Install CD05:58
TeslaTonyHence my question: Any way to fix that?05:58
Dr_willisTeslaTony,  i ALWAYS download the .torrent files anyway :)05:58
patoe1thanks05:58
Dr_willisTeslaTony,  i save them to my  ~/torrents_To_get dir. :) then ktorrent sees them added and starts downloading them05:58
Dr_willisive had to pause a torrent for so long/ktorrent crash/whatever.. that ive had to go back and find the .torrent befor. i hate that.05:59
patoe1PC (Intel x86) alternate install CD05:59
patoe1that one05:59
TeslaTonyNever had a crash in KTorrent...05:59
TeslaTonyHad KDE, GNOME, and my computer (hardware issue) crash for various reasons, but never KTorrent06:00
Dr_willisIve had severl issues in ktorrent.  so much lately ive been tempted to start using azurus06:00
Dr_willislately ktorrent will have so many files open that it cant save data...06:00
Dr_willisrestart ktorrent it and it fixes it for a while... thenit happens again.. some times it dont happen for days...06:00
TeslaTonyOh dear...how many torrents/files do you have going at once?06:02
KevinAlaskatest .... can anyone read this message?06:06
KevinAlaska~help06:07
TeslaTonyNo, but we are picking it up telepathically06:07
KevinAlaskareally?!?! that's sweet !   just don't be reading my mind between 4 & 5!  that's my time! ;)06:08
KevinAlaskaokay thank you!06:09
saizai|workis there some way to upgrade a 32 bit install of kubuntu to a 64 bit one?06:09
saizai|workI installed 32bit on this laptop (dell precision m4300) not realizing that it's a 64 bit cpu (intel t7500)06:10
KevinAlaskagood question06:10
TeslaTonysaizai|work: I'm pretty sure you have to back everything up and reinstall from scratch. Programs need to be reinstalled from scratch, too06:10
Dr_willissaizai|work,  not that i have ever seen. and you proberly wont gain much by going 64bit anyway06:10
saizai|workwell, this affects eg vmware06:10
saizai|workI wanted to install other OSes under it :-P06:10
Dr_willisOn a laptop - i hear the  64bit stuff can have  less/worse power saving features. which mean less battery life also.06:11
TeslaTonyI switched to 32 bit after some trouble with the 64 bit and flash06:11
Dr_willissaizai|work,  how much ram you got?06:11
saizai|work2gb06:11
saizai|work2.2ghz06:11
Dr_willissaizai|work,   I dont think you will gain anything at all from going 64bit.06:11
Dr_willisdont know if you can  run a 64bit OS on vmware/32bit or not. never tried. But i do thinki saw that as an option06:12
saizai|workhm.06:12
TeslaTonyMeh...probably a slight performance increase, but not enough to notice for most applications you should run on a linux laptop06:12
saizai|workeg I'd like to run Vista & OSX in parallel06:12
saizai|worktake advantage of the nice hardware virtualization06:13
saizai|workand possibly run games in vista under vmware06:13
Dr_willisgames and vmware = proerly not goint to work very well.06:13
Dr_willisI run vista and OSX unver vmware on my 32bit disrto. :)06:14
saizai|workhm.06:15
saizai|workcould I boot directly into it *and* use it w/ vmware?06:16
Dr_willisHuh?06:16
Dr_willisi boot to linux, run vmware, and run xp and osx  in vmware.06:17
hydrogenthere is some wonky method of booting into an installed partition using vmware06:17
Dr_willisor ya could piut vmware on windows, and run linux and osx under vmware then06:17
hydrogenbut its dangerous and fairly undocumented06:17
saizai|workas in, have the vista run either in vmware or just straight as a boot06:17
Dr_willishydrogen,  yep. and it causes big issues at atime.06:17
Dr_willissaizai|work,  thats NOT a good idea06:17
neville_OS X in vmware?06:17
saizai|workmph06:17
Dr_willisneville_,  yes. its doable..but not legal. :)06:17
neville_Is that a hackintosh image, or a proper copy?06:17
saizai|workthen what about my games? :( :-P06:17
TeslaTonysaizai|work: I think the Mac version of VMWare will let you do it06:17
Dr_willissaizai|work,  depends on the game.06:18
* saizai|work gestures randomly06:18
Dr_willisvmware does not emulate a real 3d card.. so thats the end of many games06:18
saizai|workwell, I'd like to be able to run 'em somehow06:18
Dr_willismany popcap games work06:18
Dr_willis:)06:18
neville_Have you tried Wine?06:18
Dr_willisbut most of them work wine also.06:18
saizai|workneville_, I don't think that'd work for high-end graphics06:18
neville_How high end is high end?06:19
Dr_willisit all depends on the game...06:19
saizai|workiunno. bioshock?06:19
Dr_williswine = possibiallity, vmware = not going to happen06:19
neville_Oh, yeah, problems there -_-v06:19
Dr_willis!appdb06:19
ubotuThe Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org06:19
TeslaTonyFor gaming, I'd recommend either running them through Wine (does NOT always work), or running Vista as your main OS, and virtualize OSX and Linux on top06:19
neville_Er06:19
neville_Anything but vista06:19
neville_:P06:19
neville_At least until they iron it out06:19
Dr_willisTHEN theres the whole copyprotection issue.06:19
saizai|workwhich?06:19
Dr_willisI need to finish bioshock some day... im about 3/4 the way through06:20
saizai|workhttp://www.linux.com/feature/123800 seems to suggest that an upgrade would work06:20
saizai|workon fedora at least06:20
saizai|workto convert 32b -> 64b06:20
nonewmsgswhy aren't we suggesting a dualboot?06:20
neville_Haha yeah :P06:20
saizai|workif I could dualboot and still vmware into my other OSs, that'd be awesome06:21
neville_Hold up, when I get my Hardy disk, how would I go about upgrading my installation from it?06:21
nonewmsgsno you boot windows and do your crysis and oblivion, etc06:21
neville_Is it an option in the alternative installer?06:21
nonewmsgsand then you restart and you do emails in linux06:21
Dr_willissaizai|work,  games are not going to work.. and if you boot to windows from the real hard drive.. it will see that its been installed on a new machine.. and set up all sorts of new devicews and so forth.. THEN if you boot back normally.. it will do it again06:21
saizai|workyeah but what if I suddenly need to SSH into my server inbetween games? zomg reboot would take soooooo loooooong :'( :-P06:22
Dr_willisPlus theres the XP/Vista hardware activation checks.. that will get all confused.06:22
Dr_williswhat server? You can get ssh clients for windows...06:22
saizai|work(kidding a bit. but there are things I'd rather run under kubuntu)06:23
Dr_willisusing a game machine as a 'spare server' ? must not be too imporntant a server.. heh06:23
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saizai|workhm.06:23
saizai|workcould I vmware into my dualboot kubuntu64 install from a vista install w/out issues?06:24
nonewmsgsthat is not how it works06:24
KevinAlaska_microsoft requires a separate licence for windows even if is dual boot and running inVM06:24
saizai|workpfah.06:25
Dr_willis and if it gets reactivated too many times.. it will shut you down. :)06:25
KevinAlaska_that I heard from microsoft them selves06:25
Dr_willisthey changed the EULA for vista just because of vmare and other virtual-things :)06:26
saizai|workhmph.06:26
saizai|workcould always just crack that06:27
Dr_willisif you have vista that came with your dell/compaq/whatever.. it may not even work on a vmware machine06:27
KevinAlaska_its because windows sees the hardware setup as a standalone I'd and running in VM as different hardware setups as it looks like from the windows persective.06:27
Dr_willisYou would be better off doing a clean install of a spare copy of XP into vmware06:27
saizai|workit came w/ xp but I wiped that partition when installing kubuntu06:27
Dr_willisbut none of this is going to help your window games06:28
saizai|workall I left was the dell partition06:28
KevinAlaska_the licence key will work on an OEM install cd of windows though06:28
KevinAlaska_well. ethic wise. you can argue to download a torrent of the image if you have a key already06:29
Dr_willisif you  can find a torrent thats not all full of.. stuff.. :)06:29
nonewmsgsKevinAlaska_: i usually do the opposite because i often still have the "real cd" but lose keys06:30
* saizai|work just wants to get it to *work*06:30
Dr_willisif it was the version that came with the  DELL then technically hes not allowed to put that on another machine. BUt the definition of 'machine' is the issue.06:30
Dr_willis'work' is not games. :)06:30
KevinAlaska_ask a friend. some mom and pop computer places will give you a burned cd if you show them the licence key sticker06:30
KevinAlaska_for a fee06:31
nonewmsgsOEM license keys and regular license keys aren' the same06:31
Dr_willisnonewmsgs,  i was thinking that also.06:31
saizai|workbasically I want a) 64bit if it's not too much a hassle, b) osx, vista, kubuntu gutsy/hardy, maybe xp, c) a shared area for as much as possible of the data / cross-compatible stuff; d) vmware or other parllels/xen-y virtualization between 'em if possible; and e) everything to work (eg game :-P)06:31
saizai|workand iunno what the best way to do that would be06:31
KevinAlaska_I now... but a dell licence is an OEM type06:31
nonewmsgsmultiple computers06:32
saizai|worknonewmsgs, ... and on just this laptop :-P06:32
Dr_willissaizai|work,  64bit will gain you nothing, you can eaially make a fat32 partition to share data   but ntfs is read/writeable now a days.  - vmware  works fine. For games dual boot back to windows.06:32
KevinAlaska_ebay I bet you can find some licence stickers from broke laptops etc06:32
saizai|workI thought you were saying vmware wouldn't work w/ an os (at least vista)  that was installed as a primary boot06:33
Dr_willisKevinAlaska_,  :) i recall some web site had 360 panarama of laptops/desktop machines..and you could read the stickers from those. :)06:33
KevinAlaska_yes dual boot06:33
Dr_willissaizai|work,  you do NOT want to run the currently installed windows/xp os on your hard drve inside vmware..06:33
Dr_willisvmware can install /run xp/vista/whatever - but  you do NOT want to run it from the 'installed system'06:34
asobiwhat's an easy gui zip/rar/tar program06:34
Dr_willisasobi,  ark  perhaps. or mc. :)06:34
nonewmsgsasobi: i like 7zip it handles everything06:34
Dr_willisdepends on your needs.06:34
Dr_willis!info unp06:34
ubotuunp (source: unp): unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.12 (gutsy), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB06:34
asobithanks06:35
nonewmsgsyeah the good dr_willis knows his stuffs06:35
saizai|workI like ark.06:35
asobihow do you put password in for ark?06:35
nonewmsgsalthough lately i use the default and it works so well 99% i am not even aware what it is ....beautifully seemless06:35
saizai|workDr_willis, is OSX sensitive like that also?06:35
Dr_willissaizai|work,  os-x under non apple hardware is not legal. :) ive never ran it on  other hardware. just inside vmware.06:36
Dr_williswich is also .. not really legal.06:37
saizai|workm06:37
* saizai|work whistles06:37
nonewmsgsdoesn't osx require some goofy propritary chip to even install?06:37
Dr_willisI do own an apple machine however. :)06:37
Dr_willisnonewmsgs,  thers hacked versions for vmware.06:37
nonewmsgsDr oooo06:37
Dr_willisOSX uses that new type of bios/firmware thing.. in ther machines.. if thats what you mean.06:38
saizai|workI'm guessing partition management would also be a PITA06:38
Dr_willisEFI? EMI? vista was supposed to have support for it also.. but  it dident.06:38
Dr_willisone of the main featrues of vmware was the use of virtual hard drives for the OS's so you can easially move/backup the whole OS06:39
nonewmsgsthis sounds more like a proof-of-concept than an actual need06:41
KevinAlaskanot to mention the ability to simply access programs you don't to loose or simply can't loose because you still need them.06:41
saizai|work'cept I can't do that 'cause of the vmware-breaks-games thing06:41
saizai|workso I guess my choice is to just go with a straight multiboot, no vm06:41
KevinAlaskathe directS factor06:42
KevinAlaskaerr. directX06:42
saizai|workwell, maybe w/ xen?06:42
KevinAlaskaif games or high multimedia stuff on windows... then might need the multiboot06:43
KevinAlaskabut06:43
Dr_willisxen and vista/xp - not doable06:43
Dr_willisi think.06:43
saizai|work:/06:43
Dr_willisunless they have done some serious changes in the last few months..06:44
saizai|workunlikely06:44
nonewmsgsi'd have mentioned reactOS but then he'd want to have that too06:44
Dr_willisso we are back where we started.. if you want games = dual boot06:44
Dr_willisBeOS06:44
saizai|workyeah.06:44
Dr_willisHiku06:44
saizai|workmeh.06:44
saizai|workohwell, dualboot is acceptable06:44
KevinAlaskadepending on how bad you need windows on some other OS the you COULD reinstall the do I'd06:44
jordsI've just upgraded from gutsy to hardy, and now sudo does'nt work : sudo: unable to resolve host jords-laptop. I think the problem is that jords-laptop isn't specified in my /etc/hosts file, but I can't sudo to edit it06:44
jordsthis seems like a big bug06:45
nonewmsgsjords:  that isnt'a  bug that's DNS06:45
KevinAlaskareinstall winXP image or crack it06:45
Dr_willisjords,  boot to rescue mode and edit it. or boot live cd and edit it.06:45
KevinAlaskaor reinstall!!!! XD. heh06:46
jordsnonewmsgs: I know. But the hardy upgrade was what broke it06:46
jordsDr_willisL How do you do rescue mode?06:46
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jordsnvm i've found it06:47
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KevinAlaskaisn't rescue mode via the kernel you select at start?06:48
Dr_willis:)06:51
Dr_willisall rescue mode does is tack on the 'single' option the the kernel= lines :)06:52
Dr_willisi think06:52
Dr_willisHmm.. Vista service pack one adds   support for new UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface) industry standard PC firmware for 64-bit systems with functional parity with legacy BIOS firmware/ Thats what we were talking about with the SPECIAL chips for apple hardware i think06:55
KevinAlaskano idea about that06:57
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Dr_willisEFI is the  next generatsion bios replacement it seems. :)  whenever it gets here...06:58
karas_hi06:58
Dr_willisi want one of those new motherboardx with Linux built into the Motherboard.06:58
KevinAlaskaspiffy06:59
Dr_willisthen ya could play soilitare while the os boots. :)07:00
kkathmananyone know why you cant download compiz themes on kubuntu?07:01
KevinAlaskaimpatient are we!?  :P  I am07:01
kkathmanthe repositories say "click here" but nothing happens?07:01
Dr_williscompiz themes or Emerald themes?07:03
Dr_willisfor emerald one Must do some commands/install some tools - to let the emerald theme manager get the latest themes07:04
Dr_willis!compiz07:04
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion07:04
Dr_willisDetails on that url.07:04
kkathmanno there were no details there07:07
neville_Can someone recommend to me a decent, although not overly expensive, motherboard I can use to milk my $58 E2140 for all the performance it's worth?07:07
westyi have been trying for a while to getting the nvidia settings to work but it keeps crashing x07:09
westycan someone help me or send me a howto guide07:10
ere4si!nvidia | westy seen this?07:10
ubotuwesty seen this?: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:10
westythanks m807:11
ere4si:)07:11
saizai|worksohm, looks like osx install would be too much of a pita07:16
rabindra__i need to burn some avi files to a dvd, i am using kubuntu 7.1007:16
rabindra__which software do I need07:17
ere4si!k3b07:17
ubotuk3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto07:17
Fritzelwhere do you configure runlevels?07:18
ere4siFritzel: depends on what you want to do - I use an app   sysv-rc-conf   from the repos07:19
Fritzelere4si: I'll take a look and see if that does what I need it to, also what is the default run level for ubuntu?07:19
ere4si207:20
Fritzel2? wow I wasn't expecting that, alright thanks07:20
ere4siin /etc/rc2.d07:20
saizai|workdoes kubuntu even come in 64bit for non-AMD processors?07:23
saizai|workI'm not seeing the dvd for 64x8607:23
neville_..07:23
neville_They're one and the same07:23
neville_They work in EM64T or whatever it is, and AMD variety07:23
* saizai|work tilts head07:24
saizai|workEM64T = Intel?07:24
saizai|workI have a centrinal t750007:25
saizai|work*centrino07:25
neville_Yes07:25
neville_I dunno whether Centrino is 64bit though07:25
neville_But that 64bit version works on Intel and AMD07:25
saizai|workyet it's labeled as being for 64-bit AMD only07:26
iceman15does kubuntu have easy support for network music streaming? i just tried geexbox and it wouldnt give me any volume07:27
saizai|workamarok works07:27
Dr_willisiceman15 try some other live cd's/disrtos see if your sound card works in them.07:28
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Dr_willisThe geexbox customizer had some settinghs for sound cards i recall.. but never needed to mess with them.07:28
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iceman15dr willis - i installed puppy and it worked07:34
Dr_willisiceman15,  thats weird.07:34
saizai|workDr_willis, what's your hardware?07:34
* saizai|work is curious how hard it'd be to get osx on this thing07:35
Dr_willisiceman15,  try DSL next. :)07:35
Dr_willissaizai|work,  as ive said befor.. I ran OS-X inside vmware. I got the vmware osx image.. and ran it :) took 10 sec.07:35
Dr_willisand it was not 100% legal to do so.07:35
iceman15dr willis, do you know anything about puppy linux? since i have it working i figure i could just keep it and use it if i can figure out how to stream over the network07:37
Dr_willisPuppy is a full yet small disrto. You can easially install extra things on it.07:38
Dr_willisor mount samba shares, or whatever if you want.07:38
iceman15ok cool, i do some browsing and hopefully figure it out07:38
jerknextdoorcan anyone tell me how to add and remove apps from the kmenu?07:39
Dr_willisYep theres 'puplets' that are thepuppy packages.. easy way would to be use fusesmb, if it has support for that.07:41
Dr_willisHmm.. thers a menu editor i thought for kde. or you could mess with the various .destop files07:41
Dr_willis# apt-cache search kde | grep menu07:42
Dr_williskmenuedit - menu editor for KDE07:42
saizai|workDr_willis, you've not tried getting it to run straight then07:42
jerknextdoorsweet thanks.07:42
Dr_willissaizai|work, getting OS-X to install on non-apple-non-efi hardware.. will be a task07:43
saizai|worklol07:45
saizai|workI'll pass then07:45
saizai|workit runs well under vmware?07:46
Dr_willisit runs...07:46
Dr_willis:)07:46
saizai|workha07:48
saizai|workany issues eg upgrading 10.4.10 to 10.5?07:48
Dr_willisyou dont upgrade. :)07:48
saizai|workwhy?07:49
Dr_willisit will see its not a legit copy.07:49
Dr_willisgo find it and try it out..  I ran it for all of 10 min just to see if it worked..  it did.. i dont reccomend using it.07:49
saizai|workthere's not a 10.5x vmware image out?07:49
saizai|workm07:50
Dr_willisgo look for it i guess.. Ive no idea.07:50
saizai|workm07:50
saizai|workI see an image of 10.5.1, tho not specifically for vmware07:51
saizai|workhttp://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/gutsy/ is confusing re whether the amd64 version is appropriate for an 64-bit intel chip07:55
TeslaTonysaizai|work: The amd64 version is for ALL 64 bit chips07:58
SilentDiswill i be shot out of a cannon if i ask if there's a release date for 8.04 final?  *braces for impact*07:58
saizai|workTeslaTony, so I've figured now that I read the wikipedia article07:58
saizai|workbut that really wasn't clear from the release doc07:58
TeslaTonySilentDis: It's either the 27th or the 29th07:58
jerknextdoordoes anyone use virtualbox to dualboot kubuntu in osx?07:58
SilentDisTeslaTony: thanks much :)07:59
sxenos_I'm running Kubuntu 8.04 beta, with KDE 4 installed. When I change things in system settings -> display, the changes don't take effect and the "apply" button is disabled. How do I change my settings?08:28
sxenos_How do I connect to an IRC using Kopete?08:45
ere4siI found it easier to just install xchat sxenos_08:51
sxenos_ere4si: Yes, I have xchat and chatzilla, but I wanted to try the full KDE 4 experience... so I'm trying to learn to use the KDE IRC tool.08:52
ere4sisxenos_: good luck then - I've never tried it08:53
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jithinHello any one got any problem with mozilla vlc plugin for firefox 309:03
brend_Firefox for Kubuntu09:20
jerknextdooranyone know why i cant seem to turn off the sounds in konversation?09:24
amit_register!09:26
ere4si!register09:26
ubotuBy default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.09:26
amit_!register09:27
ubotuBy default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.09:27
Jucatojerknextdoor: Settings -> Configure Notifications09:27
jerknextdoori did that but it is still making sounds when i get a notification.09:29
jerknextdoormaybe i just need to restart.  i've been playing with a bunch of stuff so it wouldnt surprise me if i broke something.  haha09:29
Jucatojerknextdoor: when are you getting the sound?09:35
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subspiderhi09:44
subspideri need help09:44
Jucatojerknextdoor: when are you getting the sound notifications in konvi?09:45
Jucatosubspider: ask your question. if someone knows, they'll answer09:45
Jucato(if they're around)09:45
subspideri try to open de apt get and say that i have onother apt runnign but i don't see anything running09:45
jerknextdoorwhen i leave a room.  the notification pops up and it makes a sound09:45
Jucatojerknextdoor: Settings -> Configure Konversation -> Warning Dialogs09:46
Jucato!aptfix | subspider09:46
ubotusubspider: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »09:46
subspiderthanks09:46
subspidercool ;)09:46
jerknextdoorthere is no sound option under the warning dialogs menu.  i want the warning just not the sound.  oh well, its not that big of a deal.  lease of my problems really.09:48
subspidertry ro seach where is sound file and take it out09:49
Jucatoer...09:49
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rony_ciaoooooooooooo10:09
ghwhere can i find info on building a kernel? specifically a 32bit kernel with PAE support?10:10
ere4si!kernel10:12
ubotuThe core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages10:12
Dr_willis!kernel10:12
Dr_willisLol10:12
ere4sihehe10:12
ghdanke10:12
ghthank you*10:12
ere4siwelkomme10:12
jithincan anyone help me in setting up plugins in firefox beta 510:14
jerknextdoordo you have nightly tester tools?10:16
jerknextdoorthat was directed at jithin10:17
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jithinno10:19
jithinhow do i get it (to jerknextdoor)10:20
jithinregister sixfeet610:24
DexterFhi10:45
DexterF!heron10:45
ubotuHardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu10:45
rumbaroywell, hello!10:45
dsuthello, world?10:46
DexterFhow's the roadmap for hardy comming? release on 24th as planned?10:46
DexterFand what's it's status right now? beta as the bot says? no RC yet?10:46
Dr_willisBreakage every other day it seems . :)10:48
rlountDexterF, I have heard support for my Intel 3945 is broken so I have not checked much into it.10:48
neville_Rushing right into the full release is seen as silly, right?10:48
neville_How long in terms of support will Gutsy have left?10:49
rlountSometime into 2009...10:49
neville_I might not bother in that case, everything is currently in a utopia-like state of being :P10:50
Dr_willisUtopiaLinux10:50
Dr_willis:)10:50
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_nonamehi there10:56
DexterFwhen does support for feisty run out?10:57
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_nonameI have erased all my data with DRAN by accident. The process just started when i realised that it is in progress so i rebooted the machine quickly. Can i recover my data somehow?11:00
DexterFwhat's DRAN?11:00
rlountthat sounds like it sucks.11:01
_nonameDexterF: it's a livecd to safely remove data11:01
DexterF_noname: live linux? what does it use to erase the disk, dd or shred?11:01
rlount_noname, boot a live cd and mount the disk if you can... copy whats left off to another disk. (?)11:02
rlount_noname, DRAN or DBAN?11:02
DexterF_noname: a good analysis before rushing to action is prefered in disk recovery. first, gather as much info about the target as possible. can you rememeber the partition layout?11:02
rlountI have used deriks boot & nuke and thats what it does. use with the most extreme caution you know.11:03
JoshOvkithe whole point of DBAN is so you CANT get data back11:03
rlounttotally.11:03
_nonameDexterF: i used this11:03
rlountworks really well.11:03
JoshOvkiyeh11:04
_nonameDexterF: http://dban.sourceforge.net/11:04
JoshOvki_noname: your buggered, like i said above its designed to stop you getting the databack11:04
JoshOvkiyou might be able to rescue all the stuff it didnt delete by booting from a live CD and copying everything to a new drive11:04
_nonameDexterF: yes i had one winxp part on sda1 and sda3 - ext3 and swap at sda411:05
DexterF_noname: well, it depends on how the tools that come it work. let's assume they work from sector zero to end and you pulled the power realy quick chances are only your windows partition is gone11:05
_nonameJoshOvki: so it's impossible to recover the data?11:05
DexterF_noname: if DBAN for some reasons start by randomly writing across the disk, you're probably screwed but that would be the first time I heard of such a tool acting like this.11:06
JoshOvki_noname: any data that it removed it is yes. Its made to you cant use any recovery software to get it back  "DBAN prevents or thoroughly hinders all known techniques of hard disk forensic analysis."11:06
JoshOvkihard disk forensic analysis, is the techniques used to recover data11:07
DexterFJoshOvki: which usually means it uses "shred" which means it works sector 0 -> end. good chances only the first partition is hosed11:07
DexterF_noname: you say windows on sda1 *and* sda3 - so sda1 is win only, the OS, and sda3 is apps and data?11:07
_nonameDexterF: too bad... i had lot of important data out ther (i mean the first partition)11:08
_nonameDexterF: yes11:08
DexterF_noname: my suggestion: take the disk to a windows xp computer. install the following software: 1. Partition Magic 8.0   2. Stellar Pheonix for FAT/NTFS  3. Steallr Phoenix for Linux.11:09
DexterF_noname: use PM 8.0 to recover the partition table. use SP to recover data from the partitions (you'll need a fresh target disk)11:09
JoshOvkiand prey alot11:10
DexterFfor sda1: if you can recover the start, you pretty much have the start and end of sda1: sda1 starts at sector 64 and end right before sda3 (I guess, unless there's sda2, too)11:10
DexterFyou can dd sector 64-(sda3-1) to a file and either run Stellar on this, or if Stellar happens not to support drive images (not sure) try GetDataBack.11:11
_nonamei think i had swap@sda4 but i can't remember for sure DexterF11:12
JoshOvki_noname: http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1885756&forum_id=20893211:12
DexterFStellar and GDB once got me back 70% of a crashed 120gig drive, so results are quite good. It's highly likely the first sectors on sd1 were the win inst, not data so I'd give it a shot.11:12
DexterFJoshOvki. _noname : there's no way to recover data that actuallay *has* been wiped. but _noname says he pulled the plug when dban was starting to work, so all we have here likely is a few lost sectors at the start of the disk.11:14
DexterF_noname: how big is sda1?11:15
DexterFok, couple of kubuntu questions for a change: 1. in Gutsy, how do I get rid of Dolphin and have konqueror handle all file business again?11:16
DexterFand: why do konw mouse gestures not work anymore in gutsy?11:16
llutz!dophin11:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dophin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:17
llutz!dolphin11:17
ubotuDolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.11:17
llutzDexterF: ^^11:17
DexterF:) thanks11:17
_nonameDexterF: about 80 gigs, the same is the linux part but honestly i can recover most of data stored on linux part. since i have it backed up11:17
jordan_hey guys my xserver keeps randomly restarting?11:17
DexterF_noname: you'll get most of sda1/3 with PM and SP if really needed11:18
DexterFjordan_: but works in between? what card/driver?11:18
jordan_dont laugh11:19
jordan_geforce mx42o11:19
jordan_i know an upgrade is needed11:19
jordan_it could be hours or minutes11:20
DexterFjordan_: I use a radeon 7200 in my video machine...11:20
jordan_nice11:20
JoshOvkibetter than my last card11:20
DexterFhmm, does it only occur on specific apps?11:20
jordan_firefox is the main culpret11:20
DexterFlike runnign 3d? do you use the closed src nv driver?11:20
DexterFfirefox. fancy extensions?11:20
jordan_i have the nvidia legend binary and restriced driver from nvidia and no ff ext11:21
_nonameDexterF: is there a possibility to boot some kind of recovery cd and put all sda1 contents to ex-sda3 partition since i havent got any other disk to store the data on11:21
JoshOvki_noname: you could try backtrack211:21
* rlount looks at backtrack211:22
DexterF_noname: almost any live cd comes with dd or dd_rescue, that copied byte by byte. but the target partition needs to be the same size.11:22
_nonameJoshOvki: any url?11:22
JoshOvkihttp://www.remote-exploit.org/backtrack.html11:22
DexterFyou could then install win in sda1 again, put SP and PM on top and see what you can harvest from sd311:22
JoshOvkihas some recovery software too11:23
rlountheh, I was thinking the ubuntu live cd.11:23
JoshOvkinot sure how well it works tho11:23
rlountright.11:23
_nonameDexterF: the same size as what?11:24
rlountDexterF, is right in that remembering the orig partition size(s) will be essential.11:24
JoshOvkiis it possible to install madwifi and get it working without restarting?11:25
rlountmaybe by restarting just networking.11:25
_nonamerlount: you mean the exact size? in megabytes, bytes?11:25
DexterF_noname: same size as the original sda1. unless you have dd put the data in a file11:25
DexterFsectors11:25
DexterFcylinders will probably do, too11:26
_nonameDexterF: i don't know if kubuntu comes with dd11:26
rlount_noname, DexterF is talking what you need.11:26
jordan_just read it could be to over heating?? but t cant be that surely i can play cs:S for absolute hours with no problems11:26
_nonamerlount: yes i see11:26
jordan_at highest allowed settings with wine11:26
rlountanyone have an kubuntu cd to run apt-package --list against?11:27
DexterFjordan_: doesn't look like. more as if FF pulls some weird X function call which it chokes on and dies. unlikely for FF but not impossible.11:27
jordan_yer but it is others11:27
_nonamethere's also a tool called active partition recovery, I wonder if it could help11:27
jordan_i could be on konquerer11:27
jordan_even konversation11:27
jordan_amarok11:27
DexterFjordan_: low on RAM/swap?11:28
jordan_512 ram 1gig swap11:29
DexterFhmm.11:29
DexterFgutsy, you said?11:29
rlount_noname, there is a chance that if it was built w/ lvm (which I think is default), you could boot an ubuntu/kubuntu live cd, install the lvm-tools and see whats up with the drive. the lvm data might be intact... i wonder if that would be possible.11:29
jordan_yup11:29
DexterFjordan_: compiz?11:29
jordan_no11:29
jordan_no special 3ds11:29
jordan_1 desktop11:29
DexterFodd. paste the Xorg.0.log somewhere.11:30
jordan_whers that located11:30
* rlount goes back to pkcs1211:31
DexterFjordan_: /var/log11:34
_nonamerlount:   lvm-tools? is that the exact package name?11:34
jordan_xorg.0.log @ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62222/11:34
DexterFjordan_: looks fine, no critical errors or such. which should mean that X doesn't die because of an erro in X itself but someone else kills it or it runs out of memory. I suggest you open a terminal and run watch -n1 free and start usign your computer like you usually would. if RAM usage goes up drastically, some app has a mem leak. which would fit the symptom. try and figure which on eit is.11:37
jordan_kk11:37
jordan_but how will i see it if the mem leak spikes and x dies11:37
rlount_noname, one sec11:37
jordan_507712     497404      1030811:38
jordan_total used free11:38
jordan_ that norm?11:38
DexterFjordan_: you need to monitor it. look at the terminal every now and then. when mem usage goes up, run top and have it sort by mem usage. that will tell. oh, even better indicator: resources applet in kicker11:38
DexterFin german its KDE-Systemüberwachung, dunno what it is in engl or nl11:39
jordan_ksysguard??11:39
rlount_noname, no, not the pkg name. one sec.11:40
* rlount digs through tomboy11:40
jordan_but whys there so much ram being cached in the first place11:40
DexterFjordan_: linux always uses as much ram as possible: "ram unused is ram wasted" so all ram that isn't needed for apps is used for buffers. the interesting line is one below, the entry "- buffers", that shows how much ram the apps are using. oh, and use free -m, that shows megabytes11:40
jordan_oh ok11:41
jordan_makes sense11:41
DexterFyup11:41
jordan_158344 used 34938 free11:42
jordan_oops 349400 free11:42
DexterFin kde...?11:42
jordan_yup11:43
DexterFdarn low mem usage for kde...11:43
_nonameDexterF: the stellar seems to be good but it's commercial so what i can do is to download a demo11:43
DexterF_noname: well you'll have to buy it. or.. ahem... well.11:43
_nonamelol11:44
_nonamei can't even dl it since i am on livecd... unless i can boot it from usb stick?11:45
rlount_noname, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/rescue-an-encrypted-luks-lvm-volume.html  The instructions are for crypto/lvm, just ignore the crypto. it does work btw, I made it past the passwd part and was able to salvage some data before the drive totally gave up.11:46
_nonamei mean i can't burn the iso image since i have livecd in my cd drive11:46
rlount_noname, how much memory in your machine?11:46
DexterF_noname: nah, you need a running windows. I think I saw a BartPE with Stellar preinstalled, but I really can't remember where. but seriously, for data recovery I'd use a fresh machine with plety of backup space. ask a freind or so.11:46
_nonamerlount: 1 gig of ram11:48
jordan_no pikes with flash11:48
jordan_spikes*11:48
rlount_noname, heh, you might load the live cd 'toram' and get away with burning another.11:49
DexterFjordan_: chances are it first occurs after a while. mem leaks can be tricky.11:49
* rlount shrugs and thinks millage may vary11:49
_nonamerl i don't even know how can i load it into ram?11:49
jordan_although the flash is laggy11:49
jordan_its actually got the freed ram upto 40meg from 10meg11:50
jordan_buffers doubled11:50
rlount_noname, then have a friend burn one for you?11:50
jordan_and cache halved11:50
jordan_ut whats the laggy effect of flash about?11:50
rlount_noname, google livecd toram? ;)11:51
* rlount looks and thinks maybe w/ out the question mark.11:51
SpeShi, can anyone help me with the configuration of a Maudio Delta66 please?? I know it works on win and I can see the modules in the kernel, and can see the signal in envy24control, but can't hear a sound from it in my Kubuntu...11:52
rlount_noname, seriously, you need to have some disk to put the data on, then some form of live media w/ tools on it to perform recovery, and a way to read instructions while you do it.11:53
rlountmap that out and proceed.11:53
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_nonamerlount: ok i'll try thanks... but i am afraid i have only 20gb hdd and some dvd's ... well maybe it will do11:55
Nyadhey does anyone know of a linux program which is similar to  Realtek HD sound effect manager12:04
Nyadwhich was a windows program12:05
algyzNyad:  try apt-cache search sound effects, you'll find something, I hope.12:06
SpeSanyone knows where is alsaconf in kubuntu or the equivalent????12:13
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emilsedghSpeS: i dont know what youre exactly looking for but there are some things in System Settings->Sound i think12:23
SpeSemilsedgh, I've seen that, seems to be ok12:33
SpeSthe problem is that I can't hear a sound from the card, but everything seems to be ok12:33
SpeSthe kernel modules, the routing...12:33
SpeSI can even see the signal with envy24control12:33
davismi78hi, im new to linux and i want to know if there is a way to make it make a sound to see how loud the volume is without having to play a video12:35
richardhi all i have installed the ati restricted driver and now i am getting loads of graphic sprites any help?12:37
_ZeuZ_Guys; what kernel does 8.04 run? has it got any problems with the bcm43xx (now b43) modules and firmware?12:37
_ZeuZ_!kernel 8.0412:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kernel 8.04 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:39
_ZeuZ_...12:39
richard!ati12:39
ubotuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:39
_ZeuZ_richard: why not using the auto restricted modules installer?12:39
richardi have used that but now kde desktop is all messed up12:40
_ZeuZ_lol12:40
_ZeuZ_you sure it's related to drivers?12:40
_ZeuZ_what was the last thing you did before it got messed up¿12:41
richardwell i towkrs fine in XP and fine untill i install the restriced drivers12:41
_ZeuZ_that doesn't help much... what do you mean by towkrs ?12:41
richardit works12:42
_ZeuZ_you're using KDE on XP also? For that, the Restricted modules and drivers have no relation.12:42
Nyaddoes ssh use a lot of bandwidth?12:43
_ZeuZ_Nyad: no12:46
_ZeuZ_Nyad: Minimum consume against other RA protocol12:46
_ZeuZ_Nyad: Minimum consume against other RA protocols*12:47
LegolasVWhy is it that NetworkManager is running and works as it should, but when I invoke "qdbus|grep freedesktop" it doesn't list org.freedesktop.NetworkManager?12:48
wizkoderI recently found acetoneiso2 as a very nive replacement for demon toolz. I am wondering why its nor part of the official ubuntu repository. Is anybody here that could try the program and maybe include it?12:49
_ZeuZ_LegolasV: Try: ps ax | grep NetWorkManager12:49
_ZeuZ_Hmm...12:49
_ZeuZ_LegolasV: Better try networkmanager instead directly, or try both, and tell me about the output12:50
LegolasV_ZeuZ_: I did: root      5452  0.1  1.9  48412 20376 ?        Ssl  08:58   0:18 /usr/sbin/NetworkManager --pid-file /var/run/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.pid12:50
_ZeuZ_that was the only output?12:50
LegolasV_ZeuZ_: I can connect etc to wireless networks using Knetworkmanager12:50
Nyadhow do I tell the packagers for kubuntu to add the new Pygame 1.8 to their repositories?12:51
LegolasV_ZeuZ_: no, also a line about NetworkManagerDispatcher12:51
_ZeuZ_LegaolasV: What *ubuntu version are you using? I actually use Debian SID, but since *Ubuntu is based upon it, I'll try to help...12:51
_ZeuZ_Also, what Wireless Card?12:52
LegolasV_ZeuZ_: hardy, kde 412:52
_ZeuZ_mind you telling me the kernel version (uname -r) or (uname -a)12:52
LegolasV_ZeuZ_: Linux citry 2.6.24-14-generic #1 SMP Thu Apr 3 04:49:29 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux12:53
LegolasV_ZeuZ_: probably a dbus problem, happend with Hal too12:53
LegolasV_ZeuZ_: qdbus does list all the kde services though12:53
_ZeuZ_neh, well, I wouldn't rely on that to test... what does iwconfig say? (as root, obviously ;))12:54
LegolasV_ZeuZ_: yep, mentions my wireless card being connected to the wlan here12:59
Nyadhow do I tell the packagers for kubuntu to add the new Pygame 1.8 to their repositories?13:00
LegolasV_ZeuZ_: btw, ubuntu doesn't need root for iwconfig / ifconfig13:00
SlimeyPeteNyad: if it's not in the hardy repositories, you can raise a bug on launchpad but I think the hardy repos are more or less frozen now13:01
Nyadfrozen? meaning....13:01
SlimeyPetemeaning they won't add stuff. I could be wrong though.13:01
Nyadif a friend has given me ssh access to his pc, ie he gave me his username and password etc. How does he stop me from being able to get in?13:15
CheGuevarachange his password13:15
CheGuevaradisable ssh13:15
CheGuevarablock ur ip13:15
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ere4siNyad: use iptables to block you're ip address13:16
Nyadwith ssh I don't have admin rights hey?13:20
CheGuevaradepends what the account is13:20
CheGuevaraif you can sudo from it13:20
KalEldoes ktorrent show the availability anywhere?13:27
Jucatoavailability of?13:27
KalElmeaning if a torrent has only 90% of the chunks available from the peers i've connected, 90% is the availability13:27
ere4sithis might not be the night for it!14:07
KalElwhy are so many people joining and unjoining?14:07
SlimeyPeteserver trouble.14:07
Hamrawhat's going on? joining and leaving?14:07
Jucato!nesplit | KalEl14:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nesplit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:07
Jucatoer..14:07
Jucato!netsplit | KalEl14:07
ubotuKalEl: netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit14:07
KalEloh ok thanks14:08
ere4sibye14:08
Jucatoor... we're secretly going to an IRC meeting and you're not invited :)14:08
KalEl:)14:08
KalEli was worried somebody might be controlling lots of zombies in this net14:09
Hamraso is this server split done on purpose for something like maintenance, or some error happening?14:09
SlimeyPeteerk... don't IRC as root!14:09
kblinhi folks14:14
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nosrednaekimhey kblin14:23
Hamrais there some good pdf viewer other than kpdf? and other than acrobat, something not restricted?14:27
Jucatoxpdf, evince (GNOME)14:28
DexterF!compiz14:28
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion14:28
Jucatotry searching in Adept Manager or Add/Remove Programs or using apt-cache search14:28
kblinis there a nice gui for managing XEN?14:28
kblinor a curses based TUI, for that matter14:29
Jucatokblin: you can try searching in kde-apps.org or qt-apps.org14:29
* Hamra is going somewhere14:42
* Hamra came back from whatever he was doing14:44
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subspidercan someone tell me how to run a .sh file15:07
subspider??15:07
subspideri have these file "netbeans-6.0.1-ml-linux.sh"15:08
azukihow can I unmount a multiple mounted drive?15:08
eagles0513875i miss kubuntu15:09
subspideri have these file "netbeans-6.0.1-ml-linux.sh"15:10
BluesKajsubspider, in the konsole cd to the directory where the file is located, then ./filename.sh15:10
subspiderthanks15:10
BluesKajsubspider, it usually works15:12
azuki<noob> there is nobody on #yourdistro :( </noob>15:12
eagles0513875BluesKaj: i miss kubuntu15:12
BluesKajeagles0513875, then install kubuntu-desktop :)15:12
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eagles0513875BluesKaj: i do with the alternate cd of hardy and it hangs on loading hardware devices and with gutsy i get a nasty pnp bios bug which doesnt let me run x15:13
subspideri think it's working15:13
Jucatoazuki: you really went there? O.o15:13
Jucatoazuki: if you can see your drive in media:/ maybe you can right-click on it and select Unmount?15:13
azukiJucato: nope..15:14
eagles0513875BluesKaj: unless u can really help me get those problems resolved im stickign with open suse which is the only one that works on here not even centos works on here only reason im guessing is that my hardware is too new15:14
azukijucato: neither of them work, (unable to mount), and using umount in terminalt says: "seems to be mounter multiple times"15:14
BluesKajeagles0513875, whay are you using the alternate cd ?15:14
azukionly option now seems reboot.. :/15:14
Jucatouh oh...15:14
eagles0513875BluesKaj: hardy beta hangs when trying to load my partitions and goes nowhere15:15
eagles0513875at least with the alternate cd i can get it installed15:15
BluesKajhow old is your HW ?15:15
eagles0513875bought this laptop back in december15:15
eagles0513875so its rather new15:15
azukiJucato: oh.. and there is only ONE in the /media folder.. but twice on the desktop ...15:15
eagles0513875turion x2 processor with nvidia go 6150 chipset and video card15:15
Jucatoazuki: I didn't say /media.. but media:/15:16
BluesKajI'll bet it came with Vista installed eh eagles0513875 ?15:16
Jucatoazuki: I'm not sure I can help though.. not very good at mounting :/15:16
eagles0513875ya it did blues15:16
azukiJucato: neither am I :)15:16
eagles0513875i cant wait till next thursday ill have my old big a88 laptop i can put kubuntu on that one15:17
eagles0513875thinking of hosting my website off of there15:17
BluesKajeagles0513875, did you totally wipe the HD ,or did you partition it for dual boot ?15:17
eagles0513875BluesKaj: totally whiped15:18
azukiwhat is media:/ ?15:18
BluesKajahh eagles0513875, the drivers are gone , so kubuntu couldn't see them when trying to install itself15:19
Jucatoazuki: in Konquero, type in media:/15:20
TheGateKeeperso when 8.04 going to be released?15:20
BluesKajapril 2415:21
BluesKajAFAIK15:21
TheGateKeeperok thanks15:21
BluesKaj!release date15:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about release date - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi15:21
eagles0513875im confued blues what u mean drivers totally gone15:21
BluesKaj!Hardy15:22
ubotuHardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu15:22
SpeShi, anyone knows where is alsaconf in kubuntu or the equivalent???? I can't make a Maudio delta66 to emit any sound...15:23
BluesKajeagles0513875, sometimes if there is another OS , linux will see the drivers and setup the HAL accordingly , otherwise with brand new HW there's no way it can tell what it is.15:23
eagles0513875BluesKaj: so i have to duel boot15:24
BluesKajsome ppl dispute this claim , but I read about it somewhere15:24
eagles0513875BluesKaj:  or what ur saying is deal with winblows vista15:24
BluesKajnot necessarily , maybe launchpad has a workaround for your HW15:25
eagles0513875i posted 2 bugs on there bout it locking up during boot as well as when reading partitions on normal cd15:25
BluesKajeagles0513875, have you tried a regular kubuntu cd , no special alternate installs etc , just the generic one15:27
eagles0513875yes15:27
eagles0513875not duel boot15:27
eagles0513875it would be nice if i could honestly get rid of vista15:27
eagles0513875the way things r looking its highly unlikley15:28
BluesKajyou still have it ?15:28
eagles0513875still have what vista15:28
eagles0513875ya im on open suse atm cuz its the onlyone that seems to work15:28
BluesKajyes15:28
eagles0513875i have to use hardy cuz gutsy duel boot or not i have a pnp bios bug15:28
eagles0513875ya i have normal install cd of kubuntu15:29
BluesKajpnp bios bug, hmm sorry , can't help you there15:29
SpeShi, sorry, my system crashed :S15:30
SpeSany idea about alsaconf or how to make a delta66 work in Kubuntu?15:30
eagles0513875thats y i have to use hardy cuz it seems like its been fixed15:30
eagles0513875BluesKaj: u think my hardware is just too new15:32
BluesKajdunno , could be15:33
eagles0513875this blows15:33
eagles0513875lol im sry to say15:33
eagles0513875im looking forward to getting my old machine back use it as my r&d machine to start developing a cluster distro based on kubuntu15:33
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eagles0513875BluesKaj: could i install kubuntu onto an external 80gb hard drive with usb and run kubuntu that way15:38
lkasdafHi. I installed my nvidia drivers by going to init 1. how do I remove them?15:39
BluesKajeagles0513875, it would still be using the same Mobo and RAM etc , the only thing different would be the HDD15:40
eagles0513875would i still need vista15:40
BluesKajeagles0513875, dunno for sure15:42
eagles0513875i would give anything ot get rid of it15:43
eagles0513875would the latest kernel release contain the drivers that r needed for an install15:43
lkasdafHow do I uninstall my nvidia drivers? I didn't use the restricted driver manager. I just installed them manually with the Nvidia binary15:44
BluesKajeagles0513875, I would go to #kubuntu+1 and ask there15:44
eagles0513875ok15:44
Jucatoeagles0513875: #ubuntu+1 actually15:45
eagles0513875was bout to say nobody is in there15:45
lkasdafHow do I uninstall my nvidia drivers? I didn't use the restricted driver manager. I just installed them manually with the Nvidia binary15:46
eagles0513875rooms dead in there blues15:46
eagles0513875nobody answered my question15:51
eagles0513875im goign to reboot with kernel updates and what not on here15:51
BluesKajlkasdaf, what kind of file extension is the manually installed driver?15:51
lkasdaf.run15:52
lkasdafI did.  sudo init 1      sudo sh  file.run        init 5        startx        But how do I remove it?15:52
BluesKajlkasdaf, cd to the dir then sudo dpkg -r driverfilename15:54
lkasdafok that sounds right, but where would the dir be?15:55
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BluesKajlkasdaf, wherever the original DL is , prolly, /home/yourusername15:58
lkasdafok thanks15:58
Jd0ggtrying to install kubuntu (7.10) on a hard drive that requires Ontrack disk manager (Dynamic Disk Overlay) to recognize all or the space on the drive, i've got the computer booted up into the kubuntu installation screen however kubuntu is not reporting the proper partition table16:04
Jd0ggall of the space*16:04
Jd0ggand i've made sure that the DDO software is loading before kubuntu loads up, and i also have insured that no other hard drives are hooked up but the one i am focused on installing kubuntu on... any ideas?16:05
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esophagusanyone know how to get scim working across all apps? works in kopete and konqueror, amarok, etc. but not in kate, openoffice, koffice16:29
cannonhey guys, whats a good ftp proggie for kubuntu ... that has a gui?16:29
llutzkrusader/konqueror16:31
cannonkonqueror does ftp?16:31
llutzsure and several other protocols too16:32
esophagusdamn scim16:32
esophagusif anyone can advise on getting scim with CJK input working in openoffice without scim-bridge, let me know (it did nothing)16:33
Mr_Sonomaany one got a suggestion on a cups/windows problem? I can see my printer on my linux box with my wifes windows laptop, I have added the printer into her laptop (installed driver) and obviously since i can browse my kubuntu machine SAMBA is working.....but what i dont get is why when i send the test print it shows as sent on windows, and shows in the jobs page of the cups interface but never actually prints out of the printer....suggestions16:35
Mr_Sonoma on what i've missed?16:35
KalElhi, how can i remove all kde3 applications and automatically install all kde4 versions?16:41
neville_KalEl you sound crazy16:42
toyo|deskhey guys and gals, quick question...are the repos for kubuntu and ubuntu the same?16:43
KalEltoyo|desk, yeah it's the same.16:43
toyo|deskoh ok16:43
toyo|deskcool16:43
BluesKajMr_Sonoma, I have to ask the obvious ... did you give your linuxbox print permissions on the the wife's windows firewall ?16:44
toyo|deskso if I have kubuntu 7.10 I should have all the same kinda package selection as if I had ubuntu 7.1016:44
KalElneville_ i am16:44
eduard510hi..how can i  give a IP static channel to use samba?16:45
BluesKajeduard510, the IP is staic on home networks16:45
BluesKajstatic16:45
BluesKajeach pc or device has a given static IP within the network16:46
llutzBluesKaj: most guys use dhcp now, no stativ ips anymore16:47
llutzstatic16:47
toyo|deskunless its a static entry in the dhcp server and thats entirely different16:47
toyo|desk:P16:47
drbobbno it's not really different at all16:48
toyo|deskdrbobb, the config is16:48
toyo|desk:P16:48
drbobbbut the functionality isn't16:48
toyo|deskwell no16:48
drbobbonce the host is up and the network is running16:49
drbobbit makes no difference where its config data came from16:49
toyo|desktrue16:49
drbobbyou could as well be manually calling ifconfig and route after every boot, assuming you have nothing better to do with your time16:50
sparr_I am trying to use my pc with my hdtv.  I can get 1024x768 ad 1280x768 to work, but not 136*x768 (tried 1360, 1366, etc).  Any advice?16:56
toyo|deskwhat tv is it sparr_ and what kind of input are you using, depending on the tv it may only accept certain resolutions depending on the input you use17:00
esophagusanyone had success getting scim working under linux?17:00
sparr_phillips 32pf5320/28, vga17:00
esophaguser, that was stupid17:00
esophagusgetting scim working under openoffice/firefox, etc. under kde17:01
toyo|desksparr_, Supported Display Resolution17:03
toyo|deskSound17:03
toyo|desk•Sound Enhancement: Dynamic Bass Enhancement, Auto Volume Leveller17:03
toyo|desk•Sound System: Stereo, Virtual Dolby Surround, SAP17:03
toyo|desk•Output power (RMS): 2 x 15 W RMS17:03
toyo|desk•Equalizer: 5-bands17:03
toyo|deskConvenience17:03
toyo|desk•Ease of Installation: Auto Program Naming, Autostore, Fine Tuning17:03
toyo|desk•Ease of Use: Graphical User Interface, Program List, Side Control, AutoSound, AutoPicture, 8 channel smart surf list17:03
larynxeateranyone good with scim voodoo?17:03
toyo|desk•Remote control type: RCFN05SPS0017:03
toyo|desk•Picture in Picture: Picture in graphics17:03
toyo|desk•Remote Control: Amp, DVD, TV, Multi-functional17:03
toyo|desk•Screen Format Adjustments: 4:3, Movie expand 14:9, Movie expand 16:9, Subtitle Zoom, Super Zoom, Widescreen17:03
toyo|desk•Clock: Sleep Timer, Wake up Clock17:03
toyo|desk•VESA Mount: 200 x 100 mm17:03
toyo|desk•Convenience Enhancements: Closed Captioning (analog), Vchip and parental lock17:03
toyo|desk•On-Screen Display languages: Portuguese, Canadian French, English, Spanish17:03
toyo|deskTuner/Reception/Transmission17:03
toyo|desk•Tuner bands: Hyperband, S-Channel, UHF, VHF17:03
toyo|desk•TV system: NTSC, PAL N, PAL M17:03
toyo|desk•Video Playback: NTSC, PAL, PAL B/G17:03
cachedwhy is kubuntu a cd while ubuntu is a dvd?17:03
toyo|desk•Aerial Input: 75 ohm coaxial (IEC75)17:03
toyo|desk•Tuner Display: PLL17:03
toyo|desk•Number of Preset Channels: 12517:03
toyo|deskConnectivity17:03
toyo|desk•Number of AV connections: 517:03
toyo|desk•Other connections: Antenna IEC75, Monitor out L/R (Cinch)17:03
toyo|desk•AV 1: YPbPr (2fh), Audio L/R in17:03
toyo|desk•AV 2: CVBS, S-Video, Audio L/R in17:03
toyo|desk•AV 3: VGA PC-in, YPbPr (2Fh), Audio L/R in17:03
toyo|desk•Front / Side connections: CVBS in, Headphone out, S-video in, Audio L/R in17:03
toyo|desk•AV 4: HDMI17:04
cachedtoyo|desk: ever heard of a pastebin?17:04
toyo|deskPower17:04
toyo|desk•Power consumption: 120 W Normal Operation W17:04
toyo|desk•Standby power consumption: 1 W <17:04
toyo|desk•Ambient temperature: 5 °C to 40 °C17:04
toyo|desk•Mains power: 100-250V, 50-60Hz17:04
toyo|deskDimensions17:04
toyo|desk•Product weight: 18.9 kg17:04
toyo|desk•Product weight (lb): 4017:04
toyo|desk•Weight incl. Packaging: 22.6 kg17:04
toyo|desk•Dimensions (with base) (W x H x D): 924 x 550 x 222 mm17:04
toyo|desk•Color cabinet: Silver Frost & Black Deco Front17:04
Mr_SonomaBluesKaj, I'll check that.....17:04
toyo|desk•Set dimensions (W x H x D): 924 x 511 x 118 mm17:04
toyo|desk•Box dimensions (W x H x D): 1000 x 690 x 240 mm17:04
toyo|deskAccessories17:04
toyo|desk•Included Accessories: Power cord, Quick start guide, Registration card, Remote Control, User Manual, Table top stand, VGA to YPbPr-Cinch cable, Batteries for remote control17:04
toyo|deskLoudspeakers17:04
toyo|desk•Built-in17:04
toyo|deskak17:04
cachedhow long has toyo|desk been spamming?17:04
toyo|desk....17:04
PhilRod_need an op17:04
toyo|deskcached, yeah no kidding17:04
toyo|deskcached, it didnt paste the 1 line I had selected17:04
cachedah17:04
toyo|deskanyway....17:05
toyo|desksparr_, http://pastebin.com/m574a329117:05
PeterFAOh, Kubuntu is so much nicer than Arch.17:05
toyo|deskthat is supposedly the only resolutions supported by the vga in17:06
Odd-rationalePeterFA: really. I was thinking about switching back to arch+kdemod...17:06
cachedis there a good reason kubuntu is a cd and ubuntu is a dvd17:06
toyo|desksorry for the huge spam everyone17:06
toyo|desk:/17:06
Odd-rationalecached: they are both on cd's17:06
cachedOdd-rationale: really?17:07
sparr_toyo|desk: since ive already established that that document is incorrect, i have no problem continuing along that line17:07
Odd-rationaleyes. but you can gt either one on a dvd too17:07
Odd-rationale*get17:07
cachedOdd-rationale: heh i must have mixed up ubuntu with fedora or centos17:08
PeterFAOdd-rationale, why?17:08
toyo|desksparr_, alright...but usually when a manufacturer says that they only support X modes it means thats what is officially supported, it MAY do more but they are not supported17:08
KalElktorrent taking up a lot of CPU time - will it be any better with ktorrent-kde4?17:08
Odd-rationalecached: yes. fedora is just beginning to start using just one cd17:08
sparr_toyo|desk: hence my asking on IRC, instead of asking the manufacturer17:08
Odd-rationalePeterFA: I dunno :)17:08
PeterFAOdd-rationale, Arch is neither put together nor easily configured and put together. So much work just to install even from source packages.17:09
toyo|deskall I am saying is you are already using it past its designed specs17:09
PeterFAI got into Arch and hated every minute of it.17:09
PeterFASwitched to Kubuntu which was a breeze and had fun.17:09
PeterFAGot KDE4 installed too.17:09
Odd-rationalePeterFA: I liked the kiss principle of arch and the control I had. But kubuntu is great too. Just can't decide which I want...17:10
PeterFAKubuntu is less work and less guesswork. It makes sense and doesn't have you have to know stuff.17:11
Odd-rationalePeterFA: One thing that is keeping me from switching back to arch is that kubuntu and arch booted at about the same time. which is rather strange since arch is "supposed" to fast17:11
PeterFAOdd-rationale, one thing I found odd is that it ran faster than Gentoo, both Arch and Kubuntu. I guess I just didn't configure my Gentoo system correctly.17:12
KalEli want to install kubuntu. can i / shall i install kde4 or kde3?17:13
Odd-rationaleAlso I like that I can use kubuntu *and* reccomend it to anyone. Couldn't do that with Arch.17:13
Odd-rationaleKalEl: Your choice. I would choose kde3 though17:13
toyo|desksparr_, it may end up being that you have to use hdmi to achieve the res that you want17:13
toyo|deskeg it wont happen over vga17:13
KalElok thanks17:13
PeterFAKalEl, you can install both.17:14
KalElboth will eat up space isn't it? or how much incremental space do i need to install kde4 over kde3?17:14
PeterFAKalEl, no idea.17:14
KalEloh ok17:15
PeterFAKalEl, are you thinking about installing when you have a limited space?17:15
PeterFAKalEl, My download was 800 megs.17:15
PeterFAKalEl, that's what I remember seeing.17:15
KalEli am currently using ubuntu with an 8gb partition - i think about 4gb is free, i'll install kde3 over it17:15
PeterFAKalEl, you can add KDE4 for install and see what it takes.17:15
KalElok17:16
PeterFAKalEl, add another hardrive and mount it as / and move all the files over there.17:16
KalElok thanks17:16
KalElbbial17:16
richarda\ny one able to help with a wine problem?17:20
toyo|deskyes17:21
toyo|desklet me get a glass17:21
toyo|desk:)17:21
richardtoyo|desk:  basicall i installed wine then tried to install steam steam installs ok but crashes when it loads i traced this back to gecko17:22
richardwhen i run gecko i get this error Unhandled exception: page fault on write access to 0x00000024 in 32-bit code (0x01056cde).17:22
Ashexhow does one manually remove a saved session?17:22
toyo|deskhmm richard I have never attempted to install steam on wine17:24
Ashexsteam will run in wine just fine17:25
Ashexjust make sure you've setup dx9 in wine beforehand17:25
Ashexotherwise it's useless17:25
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toyo|deskTo be able to use steam with wine you need to Install the tahoma.ttf font. Additionally, you must download and Install the Mozilla ActiveX control17:25
toyo|deskthats off the fedora howto17:25
Ashexyup17:26
toyo|deskthat may be your gecko issue17:26
Ashexyou don't really need gecko for it17:26
Ashexif all you're doing is playing games, it isn't really needed17:26
cachedlast time i had ubuntu installed, all i had to do to get vpn working was type "sudo vpnc"17:26
Ashexjust won't see anything on the main screen17:26
cachednow it's asking me for the IPSec gateway address... what do i say?17:27
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JONYPERUVIAN17:28
rootayuda para español17:33
llutz!es | root don't irc as root17:34
uboturoot don't irc as root: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.17:34
geanhi all! got a fresh 549 EURO cheapest i could get, not it screams to get a new OS. It is a compaq c745EG, Intel® Pentium® Dual-Core-Prozessor T2330 1,60 GHz, which kubuntu installed should i download? gimme a hint please..17:39
PhilRod_gean: depends more on what you want to do than on your hardware. Just grab the latest stable version (gutsy, I think)17:41
geanfor a dual core processor i need the 64-install version?17:41
llutzgean: no you don't17:41
geanphilrod_ , llutz : ok, thanks, the i386 kubuntu desktop 7.10 is ok... i already have it, it works perfectly on the 4GB asus eee already!17:43
PhilRod_cool17:43
SlimeyPetegean: the 32-bit version will also work fine17:43
PeterFAI just installed Kubuntu and I have no sound.17:50
Odd-rationalePeterFA: Hmm. Did you have sound in arch?17:53
PeterFAOdd-rationale, yes.17:55
BluesKajPeterFA, how did you set up your sound in arch? I'm quite sure it'll be very similar in kubuntu.17:56
Odd-rationalePeterFA: did you check your alsa-mixer already?17:56
PeterFAOdd-rationale, yeah.17:57
PeterFAAh, wrong device.17:57
Odd-rationalePeterFA: ok :)17:57
PeterFAi have like 3 devices that can be registered as cards.17:57
PeterFAIs there an interface that let's me select which card to use by default?17:59
PeterFAWell, some easy way to make it use the right card perminately?17:59
spawn57hi, anyone having trouble with hal at times?18:00
spawn57it crashes for me whenever I plugin my sony ericsson phone to read the memory stick18:01
Odd-rationalePeterFA: kmix?18:01
toyo|deskPeterFA, you have 3 sound cards18:02
toyo|desk?18:02
PeterFAYeah.18:02
PeterFAtoyo|desk, on on my video capture, one on my onboard, one on my added.18:03
toyo|deskPeterFA, I used /etc/asound.conf to force it to use my audigy18:03
PeterFAtoyo|desk, thanks.18:04
toyo|deskpcm.!default {18:04
toyo|desk    type hw18:04
toyo|desk    card Audigy18:04
toyo|desk}18:04
toyo|deskctl.!default {18:04
toyo|desk    type hw18:04
toyo|desk    card Audigy18:04
toyo|desk}18:04
toyo|deskthat works18:04
toyo|desk:)18:04
toyo|deskforces EVERYTHING through that card18:04
toyo|deskincluding flash18:04
toyo|deskmakes it quite nice18:05
PeterFAWhat's esound.conf?18:05
toyo|deskits for the enlightened sound daemon18:05
toyo|deskesound generally uses alsa18:06
toyo|deskPeterFA, cat /proc/asound/cards18:06
toyo|deskthat will give you the names of your cards18:06
PeterFAtoyo|desk, where do I stick my asound.conf?18:06
toyo|desklike how I put Audigy in my config18:06
PeterFAtoyo|desk, I have an asound.conf already.18:06
toyo|deskyours may be different18:06
toyo|deskPeterFA, is there stuff in your asound.conf18:07
PeterFAtoyo|desk, yeah, I made it myself a while ago.18:07
toyo|deskoh18:07
toyo|deskhmm18:07
PeterFAI just restarted alsa-utils18:08
toyo|deskwhat is it setup to do18:08
PeterFAtoyo|desk, force my emu10k1 to be the default.18:09
toyo|deskoh18:09
toyo|deskheh18:09
toyo|deskok18:09
toyo|deskwell18:09
toyo|deskisnt that what you want to do?18:10
PeterFAtoyo|desk, yes.18:10
toyo|deskk18:10
toyo|desk:)18:10
PeterFAtoyo|desk, and it isn't being used.18:10
toyo|deskhmm18:10
toyo|deskdose it look the same as my config/18:10
PeterFANo, but it works.18:10
PeterFAI've used it before in Gentoo.18:10
toyo|deskyou switched from gentoo also eh18:11
toyo|desk:P18:11
mot_anybody get mplayerplug-in working on firefox 3 yet?18:12
PeterFAtoyo|desk, yes.18:12
toyo|deskheh18:12
PeterFAtoyo|desk, where does asound.conf go?18:12
toyo|deskPeterFA, /etc/asound.conf18:12
PeterFAtoyo|desk, ugh, it didn't work.18:15
toyo|deskPeterFA, paste bin your config and the output of cat /proc/asound/cards18:15
andy_Hello there. I'm wondering if someone could help me with small problem, that's propably relatively easy one.18:17
PeterFAhttp://pastebin.com/m30394edb toyo|desk18:18
Odd-rationale!ask | andy_18:18
ubotuandy_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)18:18
PeterFAI have four.18:18
PeterFASheesh.18:18
andy_At least there's someone awake. ;)18:19
toyo|deskPeterFA, try pasting http://pastebin.com/m61eb2209 that before your other config items18:20
andy_So, I'd need to grant user access to /dev/ttyUSB0, how I do it? Point is to let wvdial to use Huawei without sudo.18:20
toyo|deskthen restart alsa and let me know if you get sound18:20
toyo|desk:)18:20
bknhey all, is adept still being maintained? Anyone know where i can checkout the source code? for some reason  i can't find that info on google, and http://web.mornfall.net/adept.html appears to be out of date.18:21
Odd-rationalebkn: Yes adept is still being maintain, afaik. There are plans to port it to kde418:21
PeterFAtoyo|desk, that got it thanks.18:22
spectrorhello all18:22
toyo|deskPeterFA, cool18:23
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bknOdd-rationale: thanks ... ha. y'know for some reason i completely forgot that most/all kde apps are undergoing the port to KDE4.18:24
spectrorsome one speak french please ? i need help for kutunbu18:24
Odd-rationale!fr | spectror18:24
ubotuspectror: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.18:24
spectrortank you Odd-rationale18:24
Odd-rationalespectror: no problem18:24
andy_Huawei E220 works flawlessly (this connection is thru it), but I had to use "sudo wvdial" for the connection. During boot, I think it would be quite a disturbance.18:25
toyo|deskhmm anyone know what the alsa libs source package is called18:27
eddieftwalsa-base18:27
eddieftwtoyo|desk:18:27
toyo|deskeddieftw, thanks18:27
you_idiothelp please. Amarok errors - xine was unable to initialise any audio drivers18:28
toyo|deskwhy is it not in the naming convention of everything else18:28
toyo|deskugh18:28
toyo|deskeddieftw, hmm18:28
toyo|deskthat didnt work18:28
toyo|deskits already installed18:29
toyo|deskbut the app I am compiling still complains18:29
Ashfire908what's the difference in k3b between "Normal Copy" and "Clone Copy"?18:29
you_idiotno mixer can be found?18:30
toyo|deskeddieftw, http://pastebin.com/m76b2751218:30
eagles0513875BluesKaj: they werent able to help me in the other channel earlier18:31
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BluesKaj!alsa | toyo|desk18:43
ubotutoyo|desk: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP318:43
toyo|deskBluesKaj, I am compiling a program18:44
toyo|desker attempting to18:44
toyo|deskmy sound works fine18:44
kqrlnirik: i am right now on a kubuntu livecd, and mount complains about mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'18:44
toyo|deskthe config script says it cant find the alsa lib sources18:44
kqrlnirik: i am right now on a kubuntu livecd, and mount complains about mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'18:45
kqrl*without nirik :P18:45
dthackeryou_idiot: is your sound working on other applications?18:45
dthackeroops, he's gone18:46
toyo|deskhehe18:46
toyo|deskdthacker, do you happen to know what package provides alsa/asoundlib.h18:47
* dthacker rummages in the archives......18:48
toyo|deskthis is on gutsy IIRC18:48
toyo|desklol its sad I dont remember what I have installed18:48
dthackertoyo|desk: libasound2-dev  and you can find this by doing a contents search at packages.ubuntu.com18:52
toyo|deskdthacker, is there a way to search with apt or dpkg18:53
toyo|deskfor providers18:53
dthacker"Dave Sez: Bookmark it Dano"18:53
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dthackertoyo|desk: my quick scan of the the apt-get man page says no.   I have not tried it with dpkg18:56
toyo|deskdthacker, alright18:56
toyo|deskthanks18:56
toyo|desksweet18:57
toyo|deskgot rid of the alsa error18:57
toyo|desknow just need jack18:57
toyo|desk:D18:57
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DrakeJusticeis there a freenode kubuntu-dev channel?19:02
dthacker#kubuntu-devel19:03
DrakeJusticedthacker: thx19:03
Raleskhi all;  xine seems to be unable to output to pulse today o_O  I remember when I installed pulseaudio the other day, xine-based things (say, Amarok) worked like a charm with it19:06
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kutahow to check the version of my kubuntu?19:26
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vhozardanyone who knows xlink kai?19:32
Level15hi. what do you people recommend for adjusting movie subtitles in linux?19:32
vhozardksuvtitleeditor19:33
vhozardksubtitleeditor19:33
Level15thanks19:33
vhozardnp19:33
vhozardanyone who can connect to http://www.teamxlink.co.uk/ ?19:33
kevikevtmcHello19:35
NickPrestavhozard, I can ping it. I'm getting upwards of 120ms response time though19:35
kevikevtmcI have a question if anyone can help19:36
patoe1!xubuntu\19:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xubuntu\ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:36
vhozardNickPresta can U see the website?19:37
patoe1!xubuntu19:37
ubotuXubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels19:37
kevikevtmcI have a question about how to gain administrative access to the network settings control panel on the bet version of kubuntu19:37
patoe1whats the visual thing to make your desktops a spinning cube again, whats it called19:38
patoe1??19:38
vhozardkevikevtmc are you using kde 4?19:38
vhozardpatoe1 compiz19:38
kevikevtmcyes19:38
patoe1thanks19:38
patoe1!compiz19:38
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion19:38
patoe1thanks so much19:38
vhozardkevikevtmc do: kdesu /usr/lib/kde4/binsystemsettings (or something)19:39
kevikevtmchmm said the command wasn't found19:39
vhozardkevikevtmc i mean: kdesu /usr/lib/kde4/bin/systemsettings19:39
vhozardkevikevtmc i dont know exactly anymore cuz i dont have kde 4 anymore19:40
kevikevtmcok19:41
kevikevtmcit didn't work though19:41
vhozardkevikevtmc can you give me what you see in /usr/lib ?19:41
kevikevtmcThe only thing in kde4 directory is 'share'19:41
kevikevtmcHow do I send that to you, I'm using kopete19:41
vhozardjust say what directory's you see19:42
toyo|deskis there a way to force a particular arch when you install packages with apt19:42
kevikevtmcoh19:42
kevikevtmcthere are several in /usr/lib19:42
vhozardis there a directory with kde4 ?19:43
kevikevtmcyup19:43
vhozardopen it and tell me what you see19:43
kevikevtmcin kde4 there is only a folder named share19:43
vhozardopen it and tell me what you see19:43
kevikevtmcin there kde419:43
kevikevtmcin kde4 there is services19:44
vhozardopen that and tell me what you see19:44
vhozardah19:44
kevikevtmcin there there a folder named search providers19:44
kevikevtmcls19:44
vhozardWAIT ONE SEC19:44
kevikevtmcok19:44
Raleskthere should be /usr/lib/kde4/bin if he has kde4 installed :/19:45
kevikevtmcI just installed the beta version of kubuntu 8.0419:46
kevikevtmcwith kde419:46
vhozardkevikevtmc can you do a find job and try to find "systemsettings"19:46
kevikevtmck19:46
kevikevtmchmm how do I do that19:47
vhozardopen konqueror19:48
vhozardand go to "/"19:48
kevikevtmcyup19:48
vhozardthen do Control+f19:48
vhozardand typ this: systemsettings19:48
kevikevtmcusr/bin/systemsettings19:48
kevikevtmcusr/share/apps/bin/systemsettings19:49
kevikevtmcthose are the results it returned19:49
vhozardweird... hmmm.. try: kdesu systemsettings19:49
kevikevtmcok19:50
vhozarddoes it work?19:50
kevikevtmcthat crashed19:50
kevikevtmcall kinds of error messages19:50
kevikevtmcI tried sudo systemsettings19:51
kevikevtmcthat opened it up19:51
kevikevtmcand it is allowing me to modify the settings19:51
kevikevtmcThanks!19:51
vhozardok, nice. good for you19:51
vhozardno problem19:51
kevikevtmcHow come when I open it up from a regular user account19:51
vhozardyes....19:52
kevikevtmcand it askes for administrator privledges and I type in the password19:52
kevikevtmcit doesn't work?19:52
vhozardweird19:52
vhozardi dont know19:52
vhozardbut it works now!19:52
kevikevtmcyes it does19:54
kevikevtmcThanks a bunch19:54
kevikevtmcvhozard are you on of the official helpers on here?19:55
sxenos_Using KDE 4 with Kubuntu 8.04. My system tray is always blank. Any attempt to minimise an app to the system tray just makes it disappear. Any ideas how to recover it?19:57
sxenos_...or does anyone know how to reset all of KDE's settings to the default short of reinstalling my OS?19:58
patoe1!compiz20:00
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion20:00
patoe1just a quick question20:01
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vhozardkeviktmc no20:03
patoe1if i install compiz on my computer (on KDM) then switch to xfce do i have to re install it?20:04
Raleskxine seems to be unable to output to pulse today o_O  I remember when I installed pulseaudio the other day, xine-based things (say, Amarok) worked like a charm with it20:06
Raleskusing whatever is the newest in Hardy20:08
sxenos_FYI, I figured out my problem. Deleting plasma-appletsrc and restarting plasma fixed it.20:16
DOOM_NXhello! :)20:37
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KalElhi, what are the expected changes in kubuntu hardy?20:53
KalEli mean in the Rock Solid KDE3 version20:54
Guruuuuuuunick Gurugutt20:54
JucatoKalEl: there are around 5 pages that detail those changes. Try searching in http://kubuntu.org/announcements20:55
KalElok thanks20:55
patoe1!compiz20:56
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion20:56
patoe1wuts up everyone20:57
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KalEli already have hardy heron beta up to date. how can i get kde4?21:00
Odd-rationale!kde421:00
ubotuKDE 4.0.3 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.3.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.3.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde421:00
patoe1anyone here?21:01
Odd-rationalepatoe1: no21:01
patoe1that sucks21:01
patoe1i gess ill keep the million dollars i was going to give away21:01
patoe1ok i tryed to run compiz and i ran the "compiz--replace" (or w/e it was) and now it works but i dont have a top bar on any one of my windows21:03
patoe1so i cant X out minimize maximize...21:03
Odd-rationalepatoe1: did you install emerald?21:04
patoe1not usre21:04
patoe1sure21:04
Odd-rationalesudo apt-get install emerald21:04
patoe1ok21:04
patoe1ok now?21:05
patoe10 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded21:05
Odd-rationalepatoe1: try "emerald --replace"21:06
patoe1ok21:06
patoe1omg thank you so much21:06
Odd-rationalepatoe1: emerald is the wm for compiz. kwin is the wm for kde21:07
patoe1ok thanks21:07
patoe1im learning so much about this :p21:07
patoe1just wish i was as smart as you and doctor21:07
patoe1:p21:07
patoe1Dr. Willis21:08
Odd-rationalehey, I was were you are not too long ago.21:08
Odd-rationalepatoe1: did you install ccsm?21:08
Odd-rationale!ccsm21:09
ubotuTo enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion21:09
patoe1what do you mean?21:09
patoe1i think i have that, i have woobly windows and the cube21:09
patoe1its sweet21:09
Odd-rationalepatoe1: ok :)21:09
Odd-rationalepatoe1: you'll soon get tired of it though...21:09
loveeverytime i press shift+backspace, i only can see my wallpaper. Is there another hotkey to go back to the desktop?21:10
patoe1wait... i closed the terminal and emrald left...21:10
Odd-rationalepatoe1: sorry, I meant to do it in the run dialog21:10
patoe1ok thats what i though :p21:10
patoe1thanks21:11
KraYzeEHi all, im trying the 8 beta and getting a monitor out of range error on boot. Wubi version. im guessing i need to edit a config file, anyone know where it's located in windows?21:11
Odd-rationalelove: shift+bksp? doesn't do anything for me...21:11
Odd-rationaleKraYzeE: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg"21:12
KraYzeEwhere thuogh? i cant get to a prompt as it goes out of range on boot21:12
patoe1hey, how do i make the cube transparent cuz i have the gears but i cant see them21:12
Odd-rationaleKraYzeE: try ctrl+alt+f121:12
Odd-rationaleKraYzeE: and see if you can loggin their21:12
Odd-rationale*there21:12
KraYzeEI tried that, it just refreshes the screen and goes out of range again21:13
Odd-rationaleKraYzeE: ctrl+alt+f1? or you might be talking abou ctrl+alt+bksp21:13
KraYzeEyou might be right,ok thanks ill give it a try21:14
lovenot im not talking about ctrl+alt+bksp!  If i pres shift+bksp i only can see the background of the logon screen21:14
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KraYzeEThanks Odd-rationale21:15
Odd-rationaleKraYzeE: Sorry the corret command is "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg21:15
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KraYzeEok21:15
patoe1i want the gears rendered in the cube and i cant get the cube to be transparent.....21:15
Odd-rationalepatoe1: Sorry, i was getting to you next.21:16
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patoe1Odd-rationale: lol yea i was just saying it better21:16
Odd-rationalepatoe1: open ccsm and go to desktop cube, in the appearence tab set the transperency while rotation to a lower value (I like 40)21:16
patoe1ok21:17
Odd-rationalelove: OK I understand. But shift+bksp does nothing for me...21:17
* NK is away: Lähtenyt toistaiseksi.21:20
* patoe1 now loves linux more then anything21:21
Odd-rationalepatoe1: even your gf?21:21
* patoe1 loves linux in second place next to brittany21:22
patoe1:p21:22
patoe1hows that?21:23
Odd-rationale;)21:23
patoe1i gess linux is second place21:23
patoe1still up there21:23
Odd-rationalepatoe1: do you dual boot still?21:23
patoe1nope21:23
patoe1well21:23
patoe1i have 2 computers here in my room, and my good one, the motherboard stoped working (i built it) and its taking 2 weeks to get a new motherboard21:24
patoe1i run windows on that21:24
patoe1and linux on this one, why do you?21:24
Odd-rationalepatoe1: I started off running Linux on a external usb drive, then dual boot, then windows xp in VM, now just Linux!21:25
patoe1lol this computer is all linux21:26
lyhanahi, i've some trouble updating from 7.04 to 7.10. I replace my sources.list with 7.10 repository many package install until it comes to openoffice21:26
patoe1and my good one is still in for a new motherboard, but b4 installing linux on that one im thinking i want to see more whati can do on linux21:26
lyhanaeven using a 'apt-get install -f' do not resolve the problem21:28
Odd-rationalelyhana: did you not upgrade the "proper" way? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades21:28
lyhanaOdd-rationale: I made a "manual" update21:29
Odd-rationalelyhana: just changing the repos in the sources.list?21:29
lyhanayes21:30
Odd-rationalelyhana: hmm. I don't think that method is supported... You might be best reinstalling. :(21:30
lyhanao.O i need to save data that imply to install driver for my ethernet driver21:31
ubuntui need some help mounting ntfs rw on live cd21:31
ubuntui have trayed mount /dev/hda5 -t ntfs /mnt/d -o rw21:32
ubuntudont work21:32
patoe1hey does the newest version of ubuntu come out on kubuntu and xubuntu to?21:32
lyhanaubuntu: try with ntfs-3g21:32
Odd-rationaleubuntu: try "sudo mount /dev/hda5 /mnt"21:32
Odd-rationalepatoe1: yes21:33
ubuntunot installed21:33
Odd-rationalewhat not installed?21:33
ubuntuntgs-3g21:33
ubuntuand i didnot find it using apt-get21:33
Odd-rationaleubuntu: did you try the command I gave?21:33
patoe1ok and my last question, i think, im runung kununtu but i installed xubuntu so im running kubuntu with xfce, is that going to make a problem when im trying to update?21:34
Odd-rationalepatoe1: it shouldn't21:34
patoe1ok thanks21:34
Odd-rationalepatoe1: np21:34
patoe1now im just going to hang out....cuz idk what to do now :p21:34
ubuntuOdd-rationale:21:35
ubuntumount: /dev/hda5 already mounted or /mnt busy21:35
ubuntumount: according to mtab, /dev/hda5 is mounted on /mnt/hda521:35
ubuntuits read only file system21:35
ubuntucant rwite to it ?21:35
Odd-rationaleubuntu: can you right to it as root?21:35
Odd-rationaleubuntu: you're on livecd right?21:36
ubuntui do as root21:36
ubunturoot@ubuntu:/mnt/hda5#21:36
kristian_Hi. Has anyone here made a successful integration of PulseAudio in Kubuntu Gutsy??21:36
ibilichow do I run several commands one after another from a terminal?21:37
ibilicin one shot21:37
ubunturm: cannot remove `pagefile.exe': Read-only file system21:37
Odd-rationaleibilic: e.g. "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"21:38
patoe1i know how to in windows...21:38
patoe1do BAT files work on linux21:38
ibilicthanks... what if I want to run them in parallel?21:38
ubuntuhow to mount ntfs read and right21:38
Odd-rationaleubuntu: try "sudo rm /mnt/hda5/pagefile.exe"21:38
ubunturm: cannot remove `/mnt/hda5/pagefile.exe': Read-only file system21:39
Odd-rationaleibilic: idk.21:39
ibilicalso, what if one of them is a sudo command?21:39
ubuntuntfs!21:39
Odd-rationaleibilic: then you will need to type your passwd21:39
Odd-rationaleubuntu: I guess you can try installing ntfs-g3. you can install stuff temporority on livecd sessions21:40
ibilicyeah... but will I have to type it only at the beginning, even though only the last one requires sudo?21:40
Odd-rationaleibilic: if the first one does not require sudo and the second one does, then you will only neeed the passwd when #1 is finished21:40
sykeI just installed kdewebkit and now I get a crash when starting konq21:42
sykeanyone else see this?21:42
patoe1how do i install files??21:45
Odd-rationalepatoe1: what kind of files?21:45
patoe1do i want RPM or not?21:45
Odd-rationalepatoe1: you want .deb21:45
patoe1my choises are21:45
patoe1Linux RPM (self-extracting file)  filesize: 18.32 MB21:45
Odd-rationalepatoe1: but first check the repos!21:45
patoe1Linux (self-extracting file)  filesize: 18.83 MB21:46
patoe1and that21:46
patoe1??21:46
patoe1im lost lol21:46
Odd-rationalepatoe1: rpm is for redhat linux distros. .deb is for debian linux based distros. Ubuntu is debian based.21:46
patoe1well there is no .deb the one is rpm and the other looks like a .bin21:47
Odd-rationalepatoe1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware21:47
Odd-rationaleanyways. I heading off. see you all later!21:47
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linuxguymarshallWhere is menu editor in KDE 4?21:48
Odd-rationalelinuxguymarshall: right click --> edit menus ?21:48
linuxguymarshallOdd-rationale:No there is an ¨application launcher settings¨ but that just allows me to control the # of items there. I want to be able to delete items from the menu21:49
wesleyhow can i install the system setting that kubuntu kde3 uses21:50
Odd-rationalelinuxguymarshall: idk, then sorry. try in #kubuntu-kde421:50
linuxguymarshallOdd-rationale:Thanks21:50
Odd-rationalethis time i'm really going...21:50
wesleyi need to mount my external harddrive but i need to force it21:51
wesleyso i need kde3 system settings what is implented in kubuntu so i can activate it21:52
eljefeHow smart is it do dist-upgrade to Hardy from Gutsy?21:53
patoe1so ubuntu cant have many things instaledd on it?21:53
sourcemakerI have installed virtualbox but the module is not found... do I need a restart of system or should I compile the module from source21:53
eljefebah whatever, I'm going to do it.21:54
Jucatoeljefe: you can get Hardy help in #ubuntu+121:54
eljefekubuntu+1 Jucato, or only Ubuntu+121:54
Jucatosourcemaker: is it complaining about the module during installation or when you try to run it21:54
Jucatoeljefe: #ubuntu+121:54
eljefeok thanks21:55
sourcemakerJucato: the installation was fine... it's complaining starting the service21:55
Jucatosourcemaker: if it complains when you're trying to run it, you might need to load some kernel module first21:55
JucatoI'm not sure, I think "sudo modprobe vboxdrv"21:55
sourcemakerJucato: I have already tried this... module not found21:56
JucatoI think there's a #virtualbox or #vbox channel for help21:56
Jucatohm..21:56
sourcemakerJucato: I have not restarted the system after installation... is this the problem?21:56
Jucatono21:56
Jucatosourcemaker: I'm presuming you installed virtualbox-ose from the repositories right?21:56
sourcemakerJucato: yes... I have21:57
Jucatosourcemaker: have you installed virtualbox-ose-modules too?21:57
Jucatovirtualbox-ose-modules-generic I mean21:58
sourcemakerJucato: yes... I have installed both modules... generic and rt21:58
sourcemakerJucato: because since yesterday.. I am using the RT kernel21:58
Jucatosourcemaker: gutys or hardy?21:59
sourcemakerJucato: hardy21:59
Jucatooh... try askin in #ubuntu+1 if anyone else has the same problem21:59
mnoir in kmail, does the (percent)CURSOR tag work?  I am not getting proper placement in the default reply-to template22:02
drbobbwhen i try to connect to last.fm from amarok, my wifi connection is usually killed. any hints?22:07
drbobbhmm i guess there must be an #amarok channel somewhere, right?22:08
drbobbyep.22:09
fdovingthere is.22:09
x357hello?22:24
x357requesting help22:25
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x357help22:28
Xcercaif i am using kdesu "adept_manager --dist-upgrade-devel" to upgrade to 8.04   how can i choose the remix version with KDE 4?22:29
Xcercaor is that the remix with kde 4 ?22:30
terrible_voicehello everybody22:31
JucatoXcerca: to get KDE 4 on an already existing installation, you just have to install kubuntu-kde4-desktop in Hardy22:32
sigma_1234is there a wubi installer on the gutsy cd?22:32
Jucatosigma_1234: no. Wubi only becomes "official" in Hardy22:32
Ace2016how fast is wubi?22:32
Jucatox357: try asking your question22:33
Xcercasounds good,  thx22:33
Ace2016does the file wubi makes act like a virtual partition in which i can add an xfs partition?22:33
Ace2016windows ubuntu b??? installer???22:33
x357im really new at this OS, so how can i set up all my hardware graphics and mobo etc.22:34
Xcercax357 , i would check out the forum and wiki on ubuntu's web site22:34
sigma_1234i saw some wubi_installer.exe on the face of the gutsy cd. too scared to click it though22:34
x357ok will do thx22:35
x357what about installing software, the .rpm what do i use?22:37
sigma_1234!alien22:38
ubotuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)22:38
sigma_1234use at your own risk. grrrr!22:39
Jucatox357: you don't use RPMs in Kubuntu. you use DEBs22:40
x357ok, im checking the wiki22:40
patoe1nana22:43
patoe1whats up22:44
patoe1hey i installed Teamspeak 2 but idk were to find it to open it now...22:49
x357how can i install nvidia drivers?22:52
Ashex!nvidia | x35722:53
ubotux357: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto22:53
sourcemakerdoes somebody use ipodlinux on his ipod...?23:00
x357how can i check my ubuntu version?23:01
algyzx357:  cat /etc/version23:02
algyzno, wrong :)23:02
pc_hi23:02
Jucato!version23:02
ubotuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell23:02
AshexI was going to say that :p23:03
algyzx357:  or cat /etc/issue :)23:03
x357thx algyz23:03
pc_i want to install JVM on my computer but i have some problems... anyone can help me?23:04
algyz!ask | pc_23:04
ubotupc_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)23:04
x357were do i go to update my OS version?23:05
algyzx357:  which version do you have?23:06
x357 6.0623:06
algyzx357:  command is    kdesu "update-manager -c"23:07
x357??? i'll try that later gave me an error23:08
algyzx357:  what kind of error?23:09
x357not found error23:10
algyzx357:  then try  sudo aptitude update, sudo aptitude upgrade, sudo aptitude dist-upgrade23:11
algyzx357  well, maybe you don't have update-manager, then install it:  sudo apt-get install update-manager-core23:12
sourcemakerdoes someone use rockbox on his ipod?23:13
Teo-hi! i have patched the bcm43xx driver for injection using the ubuntu guide on the ubuntu server with no errors but when i try to use sudo aireplay -9 eth1 the injection is not working:( some help please?23:13
ere4si6.06 is the lts - end of april it can upgrade straight to 8.0423:13
carrieI have lost my address bar and Google search bar in my web Konquerer.  Can anyone help me?23:14
Blissex3carrie: yes.23:15
carriethank you23:15
carriewhat must i do?23:16
Blissex3carrie: 'Settings->Configure toolbars' for the address bar.23:21
Blissex3carrie: 'Settings->Configure extensions' for the Google bar.23:22
Blissex3carrie: however sometimes these disappear because of bugs, so be patient.23:22
Fleck_laptophey - i have problem :) HP laptop, guidance-power-manager is not switching to battery mode when i remove AC23:24
DarkriftXFleck_laptop, do you have apci=off in kernel args?23:31
Fleck_laptopnope23:32
DarkriftXhrmmm23:32
DarkriftXbecause that option gives me the same problem on an hp laptop23:33
DarkriftXalong with many others23:33
Fleck_laptop:(23:33
* patoe1 runs in a trows cookies everware23:40
patoe1throws*23:40
terrible_voicehello everybody23:41
DarkriftXwow, that sentence was a spelling nightmare23:41
patoe1i know23:41
DarkriftX50% of the words were incorrect23:41
patoe1somethimes i cant sleep at night :(23:41
DarkriftXheh, i know how that is23:42
patoe1:'(23:42
patoe1i dont even know how my girlfreind loves me23:42
DarkriftXfor the money?23:42
Fleck_laptopDarkriftX: discovered something interesting - if batt is fully charged - and i remove AC, it detects batt mode!23:44
Fleck_laptopohh no, not allways :(23:44
patoe1i gess that must be it23:45
patoe1im a big stupid jock23:46
tdobsonhey there. anyone got any idea how to use a SOCKS 5 proxy (a ssh tunnel) with Konqueror?23:46
DarkriftXthats odd Fleck_laptop23:48
Fleck_laptopodd?23:48
DarkriftXhave you tried a reboot? or maybe kill and restart the power manager23:48
Fleck_laptopyep23:48
patoe1you could always kill yourself, thats an option i always leave in the back of my head23:50
DarkriftXtry it and let us know how it works23:50
patoe1....23:52
patoe1i cant find the program i just installed23:52
patoe1no help23:54
patoe1join #xubuntu23:54
Fleck_laptopDarkriftX: i installed kpowersave - seems to work great!23:55
DarkriftXnice23:55
DarkriftXgood to know for future purposes23:55
patoe1i just installed Teamspeak 2 and i dont know how to open it23:55
jacques_patoe1: can't you just run teamspeak-client23:58

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