[00:00] thx for your time either way [00:00] gonna sit and try to learn [00:00] hmm, 2.6.24 [00:01] genii: Yes, I have an "old" version of ubuntu in school. There I have hda :D [00:01] genii : u kno anything bout intel drivers? [00:01] stdin: following your instructions i now have a prompt: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62189/ [00:02] can you advise? [00:02] Kr|ptiX: Intel driver for what devices? [00:02] RDC: I tend to just hit "Y" on those, to get the latest version [00:02] Kr|ptiX: nvm I see now 945GM [00:02] How does labelling in NTFS partitions work then? Is there nothing like it in ext partiions? Would be nice to see in future if not ;) Not a request though :P [00:02] genii : yeah :) [00:03] I like to rename my music partition to Harmony :) Feels much nicer than sd7 :D [00:03] *sda7 [00:03] Kr|ptiX: Thats the same video this laptop uses, the i915 driver works fine with it [00:04] genii where do i get it :) im totally new on update drivers [00:04] are there any other desktops apart from gnome and kde [00:05] jordan_: yes. [00:05] what ones??? [00:05] k, stdin: wish me luck... rebooting...thx again! [00:05] gl :) [00:05] Kr|ptiX: AFAIK it's the default one, i didn't use any restricted etc etc. [00:05] Is it possible to run svn-packages? For instance if I wanna run latest Amarok2 changes ... ? [00:06] genii huh u lost me [00:06] is berile one as i heard you can customize that alot [00:06] jordan_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87276 [00:06] alguien que hable español? [00:06] ty [00:06] maurokde: /join #ubuntu-es [00:06] !es | maurokde [00:06] maurokde: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda. [00:06] conocen algun servidor de kubuntu en español¿? [00:06] ok thnks [00:07] maurokde: debes entrar el canal #kubuntu-es - alli hay personas que pueden contestar sus preguntas. [00:08] kmos [00:08] look at me, bustin out the spanish [00:10] Anyone know how to determine what dsp device is mic with OSS? Can't find any documentation.. [00:11] Not that Konversation is not good, not at all. Jsut wondering if it will be ported to KDE4 later? [00:12] that was cool thread [00:12] spiroo: it will be [00:12] spiroo: eventually, but there will be a kde3 release first [00:12] porting will start after the last KDE 3 release (1.1) [00:12] Jucato: allright :) [00:12] nice [00:12] stdin: (rdc here) thx again, you are a legend! [00:12] jordan_: i think you want compiz-fusion. that gives you the nice desktops. but that runs on top of kde / gnome/ other wm [00:12] rui: I take it that worked then :) [00:13] Looking forward to see future KDE4. Damn as they working on KDE. [00:13] rui: he's ancient! === aztun is now known as zerg3 [00:13] compiz-fusion thats gives the 3d cube effect for screen change right?? [00:13] or other effects [00:13] i'm wondering where i should post your instructions so someone else can benefit... any suggestions? [00:13] jordan_: yes [00:13] in the forum maybe [00:13] !forum [00:13] The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums. [00:14] i was more thinking changign the look of the menus etc and colours [00:14] oh yes, that it did my friend... i'm back in business... and off to read up on the commands you suggested that got me out of this mess [00:14] rui: q passa [00:15] Riddell: ping [00:16] Ze_M: hmm? [00:16] Riddell: do you mind talk in private? [00:17] dwidmann: I could fix that :D [00:17] Keep up the good work everyone. GNU/Linux will conquer the throne soon! :D Going to bed now, ciao. === ubuntu is now known as ubuntu_ [00:22] !find perl-Time-HiRes [00:22] No packages matching 'perl-time-hires' could be found [00:22] !find apache-suexec [00:23] No packages matching 'apache-suexec' could be found === hm_ is now known as hm__ [00:24] the !find and !info functions are currently broken, use http://packages.ubuntu.com [00:24] tnx [00:24] how do I get the values of environment variables? like $path? [00:24] thx again stdin... in honour of your assistance... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4654099#post4654099 [00:24] Nyad: echo $PATH [00:25] tnx [00:25] or "env" to print them all [00:25] echo env just prints env [00:25] rui: glad go it working [00:26] Nyad: no, just "env", no "echo" [00:26] I'd pipe that through less generally, like "env | less" [00:27] how do I exit that thing? [00:27] press "q" [00:27] or control+c [00:27] cntrl+z seems to do the same thing [00:28] ctrl-z suspends it, not exit [00:28] so it's still running in the background [00:28] ok. what's a good ssh client? [00:29] I just use ssh [00:29] sudo apt-get install ssh? [00:29] no, that'd install the ssh server, the client is already installed [00:29] woops [00:29] use "ssh username@hostname" to use it [00:30] should I remove the server or is it not serious? [00:30] remove it unless you want to be able to login remotely over the network [00:31] ok [00:32] if I do want to log into my pc from somewhere else how would I do that? [00:32] you just need to know it's IP address or DNS name. then you do "ssh (your user name)@(your IP/hostname)" [00:34] you can set host aliases locally by editing /etc/hosts or using the GUI (System Settings -> Network Settings ->(Administrator Mode) -> Domain Name System ) [00:35] tnx [00:40] Isn't there any ossmixer? [00:41] how do I change environment variables? like this, $CVSROOT="mychanges" [00:41] Nyad: just remove the $ [00:42] ok [00:48] Howdy. Downloaded the latest beta of Kubuntu, trying to figure out where on the alt boot CD the RAID options are. I see LVM just fine, but I want the whole thing to exist on a RAID1. [00:51] Hi, I've got a fresh install of kubuntu on a machine I'd like to network with my XP box, samba sees the shared folders on the kubuntu but doesn't see my XP box and I"ve also tried to add a user in smbusers but when I try to make the password it tells me Failed to modify password entry for user [00:51] I know the Fedora installer has RAID options built into the partition manager, but I don't see somewhere to set that in Kubuntu. [00:53] Unfortunately I don't really have the option to use the latest stable, as some of my hardware (SATA controller, for starters) is unsupported. [01:02] hey everybody. The name of my desktop folder is named after the translation of "desktop" into danish, but i want it named "Desktop". How do i do that? [01:05] hummesse: Start up a terminal, and type "mv $DANISH_NAME Desktop" [01:05] ok and thats it? nice.. thanks [01:05] hummesse: Not all, look here for other http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4527766 [01:06] ok thanks again [01:06] Doh, forgot that part; sorry. :-) [01:06] jay: :) [01:08] Kinda new to Linux on the desktop, I'm used to living in serverland... [01:09] Just can't figure out how to get RAID1 working on install... [01:15] . [01:20] linuxreality === mwilliams is now known as linuxguymarshall [01:22] hm thats a good podcast [01:22] What is the command for opening up restricted drivers? [01:24] :D [01:25] I really enjoy the information presented by Chess Griffin [01:25] linuxguymarshall: isn't there an icon for doing that? [01:25] also the system settings [01:27] #linuxreality [01:28] nyad:no there is no setting [01:29] nyad: Nvm, I have played with terminal and accessed it. [01:30] is there a KDE GUI for Vim? [01:36] kmenu-->system settings advance tab -->restricted drivers [01:40] dek: not kde specific, but there is a gtk gui for vim [01:41] does anyone have a problem with the system hanging when logging out of X... 7.10, ATI card [01:41] but unless you LOVE vim, kate is a great KDE editor [01:41] jereme: what ati drivers? i've had some problems, i actually don't use kdm anymore, just console logins and startx [01:42] the pkg ati drivers I think, let me look again [01:42] i've got an x1050 (rv360 according to Xorg), and i'm using the oldish 8.43 drivers i think, they're from november i think [01:42] yeah the ones ubuntu provides [01:42] newer ones gave me weird problems getting the screen dimensions i wanted [01:43] 0.0.1+git20070918-1ubuntu1 [01:43] 1152x864 isn't THAT weird, is it? [01:43] no [01:43] 2x1 is weird [01:43] jereme: try new ones from ati, i actually kind of recall a fix for logout hangs in a recent version [01:44] ati's installer can even make packages for you, so apt knows about all the stuff they install [01:44] from what the internets at googles are telling me, it might be related to framebuffer support [01:44] yeah the ATI drivers do it too [01:44] tried that awhile back [01:45] now I'm trying to get office 2k3 working in crossover and I'm finally tired of the lockups when I go to reboot [01:45] what card? because kernel framebuffer support for most cards is shite [01:45] 9700 I think [01:45] hmm, that's r300 series [01:46] i think framebuffer support for them is crap, try taking that out of the kernel [01:46] and/or try turning off kdm and starting X manually [01:47] if you don't need kdm's multiple simultaneous session handling, you won't even notice the diff [01:47] ha there's a whole list of folks who have solved it by switching from DVI to D-SUB [01:47] now that's weird, and sucky [01:47] d-sub? Huh.. that the new replacement for dvi? [01:47] no kidding [01:47] I aint even seen one of those yet. heh [01:47] Dr_willis: it's the newest thing... now we don't have to bother with that digital signal anymore [01:48] we can enjoy the wonderment of amazing analog signal! [01:48] We need USB monitor conectors! [01:48] tired of crisp images and perfect fonts? [01:48] :) [01:48] but your movies now have auto-anti-aliasing! [01:49] I'm more into pro-aliasing.. [01:49] chunk that text up for me a bit [01:49] it's too readable [01:49] C64 emulation [01:50] well, raw pixels of 1024x768x32bpp@60Hz is 180 MB per second [01:50] there you go tin... check out 320x200 [01:50] that's more than full speed usb2 [01:50] commodore had it right [01:50] or hi speed, whatever the fastest one is, 400 Mbit per s [01:50] one of the owners of the co. I work for had a usb monitor [01:50] tin, i did see some mention of a usb monitor - in a pc mag. [01:50] but returned it right away [01:50] I guess it was horrid [01:51] oh yeah they definitely exist, we briefly had them [01:51] tin, aparentlyu the video card was in the moniitor not the pc. [01:51] yup, and it's a crappy card [01:51] now, a graphics processor on usb would be feasible [01:51] it looks like dsub on a 50' unshielded cable [01:51] tin: it exists... someone released one a while ago now [01:51] apparently it was pretty naff [01:51] wrapped around a power substation [01:52] could be even more feasible with a vector drawing system [01:52] because then nly commands get sent over usb, not image data [01:53] 640x480x32bpp@30Hz is only 55MBps === william__ is now known as nonewmsgs [01:53] that's kind of doable with usb2 [01:53] 24bpp is fine for most applications anyway [01:54] transparency's becoming all the rage though [01:54] brb [01:55] do people pay for bsd [01:55] nonewmsgs: Not usually [01:55] doubt it, but I imagine people pay for support. [01:56] someone said that bsd official ISOs are warez and that threw me off [01:56] they're wrong. [01:58] SlimeyPete: thanks [02:00] can installing realplayer for linux compromise my security? [02:01] yo [02:01] hi. [02:02] im just wondering, iv been talking to soem people and they say xubuntu is better then kubuntu [02:02] whats the diffrence? [02:02] patoe1: to get xubuntu too as see for yourself all you have to do is type sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop [02:02] Kubuntu uses KDE. Xubuntu uses Xfce. [02:03] !xfce | patoe1 [02:03] patoe1: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels [02:03] kubuntu uses KDE for its desktop environment, Xubuntu uses XFCE. Basically, they look different and have different apps installed by default. [02:03] It's all a matter of taste - they're the same system underneath. [02:03] ok [02:03] someone just said that "No, Kubuntu is KDE. You don't want to use KDE as it is used for gay sex activities, etc." [02:03] :p [02:04] * Jucato sighs [02:04] i do have a lesbian video but i think i had to download that on my own [02:04] lol [02:04] !language [02:04] Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. [02:04] time for slashignore [02:04] * patoe1 laughs, and says sorry [02:04] wow.. I just learned that he sysrequest key can get me out of a hard lockup [02:04] that's pretty cool [02:04] how?! [02:05] I did alt+sysreq and held that down while I pressed and released s, then u, then b [02:05] which stand for (s)ync disk, (u)nmount and re(b)oot [02:05] and even though I was seemingly frozen solid, I rebooted [02:05] my capslock wasn't even working, but this worked [02:06] Ooh [02:06] Sounds like something only a contortionist can achieve :P [02:06] well crawling under my desk to find the power button also requires a contortionist [02:07] and I noodle on guitar, so it's not much harder than some chords I've played [02:08] sysreq is the windows key if you have a keyboard made for windows right ;) [02:08] ? [02:08] nope [02:08] it's the other half of the print screen key [02:08] oh haha i see it now [02:08] thanks [02:08] grrr, hat head [02:09] 533kb/s not bad... [02:09] i gess ill be back [02:09] peace [02:10] crapping eh... crossover is pissing me off [02:10] no im installing xubuntu [02:10] i hope sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop is the right command [02:10] :p [02:11] http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/xubuntu [02:11] yes and you can just switch on the login screen [02:12] for my defult display manager do i want gdm or kdm? [02:12] patoe1: they both work [02:12] is one better then the other? [02:12] Hello Everyone [02:13] patoe1: i think once i picked kdm and i had to logout before i did a shut down. [02:13] hah ok,,, [02:13] old bug [02:14] Jucato: most likely but people remember those far after they've been squashed [02:14] i didnt mean to be a jerk but for that reason i have always selected gdm afterwards === lord-kelvin is now known as LorD === LorD is now known as LorD_KeLviN [02:23] hey guys! [02:24] Konqueror doesnt load any website. Am I doing something wrong? [02:26] hey im having a hardtime getting wifi to work on my mac using ndiswrapper [02:27] i follow the ubuntu wiki instructions to the t === _rysiek|pl_ is now known as rysiek|pl [02:40] how do i disable remote login? [02:41] my root password is 9 chars long [02:41] I got a question [02:41] how long are you guys' passwords? [02:41] for the new hardy heron is there a certain javascript update I need to run? [02:42] i'm gonna extend my password to 16 chars [02:52] mine is 9 [02:52] i wish that passphrases instead of passwords became the norm [02:54] i always use 'password' for my password! no one ever guesses that [02:54] :) [02:54] the big question would be why did that dummy (and i use that term will all of the malice one can possibly imagine) even enable root? [02:55] hey dr willis [02:55] for non secure shit, its fun using password with a lisp [02:55] :P [02:55] heh [02:55] hmm.. by default remote login is disabled... [02:56] * Dr_willis reads the history buffer some more. [02:56] i actually considered using supercalifragilisticexpialidocious in "l337" speak as a password [02:56] lol [02:57] lashcord [02:57] mashboard [02:57] washpord [02:57] etc [02:57] lol [02:58] thers secure, then theres paranoid, then thers silly.. :) [03:03] hola que tal?? [03:04] !es | carlos [03:04] carlos: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda. [03:08] hey my kubuntu is really fuckin up... anyone got this ? [03:09] !language | moregreen [03:09] moregreen: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. [03:09] ok [03:09] its always freezing [03:09] out of nowhere. [03:10] how do i check the logs from my last session? [03:12] is there something other than testdisk/photorec i can use to recover images from a screwed up ext3 partition? [03:13] hola [03:23] what's the proper way to add a new user? [03:23] Fritzel: adduser [03:23] surprisingly [03:23] -nod- yeah old school ^^ ok just making sure I wasn't missing a tool somewhere [03:23] thank you [03:23] there is a tool. [03:23] what's it called? [03:23] or rather wehre is it [03:24] where too [03:24] dunno, not using kde anymore [03:24] system settings, users, maybe [03:24] not to be a contrarian, but useradd is actually better for creating new users [03:24] well it doesn't have to be anything fancy, I just want a certain program to run as a unique user, [03:25] adduser should work [03:31] hola === gonzalo is now known as otromas [03:31] hey, I need help deciding what linux distro I need... [03:32] Well, what are you after? [03:32] I have a really old computer and I just want it to be able to stream mp3s from my network [03:32] thats really all it needs to do [03:32] How old is really old? [03:32] define really old [03:32] well its running windows 95 [03:32] its a second hand computer so i'm not totally sure about how old [03:32] so at least a 486 [03:32] its got 192 mb of ram [03:33] oh, you should be fine [03:33] geexbox + nfs shares [03:33] is one option [03:33] ok, i'll check that out, thanks [03:33] hi! [03:34] iceman1521, is the old machine going to be the one holding or playing the songs? [03:34] somebody can recommend me any IM client? [03:35] otromas, pidgin [03:35] does aim, msn, yahoo, google, irc, jabber... [03:35] thank's Daisuke-Ido! === ORL is now known as racin97 === racin97 is now known as ORL === ORL is now known as racin97 === racin97 is now known as ORL === ORL is now known as racin97 [03:44] sorry Daisuke, had to run to the bathroom...the old machine is going to be playing the songs [03:47] xubuntu is better [03:47] :D [03:47] now that i tryed ot [03:47] it [03:47] fluxbuntu [03:47] hola [03:47] :) [03:47] hola === aurora is now known as yordy [03:47] I just install the xfce-desktop on my other machine. No need for me to use xubuntu. [03:47] hola [03:47] well yea [03:47] and the xfce desktop is lacking in some areas [03:47] its nice in other ways. :) [03:48] alguen que able español [03:48] im using xfce on kubuntu [03:48] no hablo espanol seinor [03:48] de donde eres amor [03:48] !es [03:48] Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda. [03:48] no hablo espanol seinor :p [03:49] haha [03:49] thats all i know how to say [03:49] ok [03:49] yo yordy! pero no se mucho [03:49] español [03:49] tu eres de donde [03:49] i wish i was smart like Dr_Willis :( [03:50] :'( [03:50] !cookie | patoe1 [03:50] Sorry, I don't know anything about cookie - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [03:50] Oh well.. :) cookies.. Hmm. I have cookies i can bake! Brb. [03:50] i get a cookie :D [03:50] * patoe1 eats cookie before anyone can steal it [03:51] is there an eqivelent to task manager in ubuntu? [03:52] patoe1: ksysguard [03:52] or kubuntu or xubuntu or w.e :p [03:52] thanks [03:52] que necesitas yordy? [03:53] time to kill firefox [03:53] froze up [03:54] with geexbox will i be able to play mp3s from a networked windows pc? [03:54] iceman1521, i can with my geexbox :) [03:55] Geexbox is .. a nifty thing. I have my laptop setup with it as grub boot option. [03:55] I even watch videos and shoutcast streams [03:56] ok well I'm just wanting to turn this POS windows 95 computer into a music player to connect to a stereo [03:56] thats really all it needs to do [03:56] geexbox can do that. You can even isntall it to hard drive if wanted. [03:56] ok great [03:56] Dr_willis: were you looking for the "helpersnack" factiod? [03:57] I'm totally new to linux, I've been wanting to mess with it for years but never have and this seemed like the perfect time to do so [03:57] Odd-rationale, :) a lot of the old factoids are gone it seems. [03:57] geexbox is rather hands off linux. :) [03:57] well hands off seems like a good place to start [03:57] You can run the geexbox customizer tool onwindows and make a customized geexbox live cd, you can then install. [03:58] yeah, thats what I'm doing right now [03:58] Then you can install geexbox to hard drive if you want to, or not. [03:58] it boots very fast anyway from cd. [03:58] ive had a lot of issues with the 'next' testing release/version/beta of geexbox however. :( [03:58] yeah I'll probably install it to the hard drive, this computer has 6 gigs and its gonna have nothing else on except maybe some music [03:59] I'll definitely be sticking with a stable version [04:00] I have geexbox on a 50mb partition, then ubuntu installed after that. [04:00] i have grub set where i can boot geexbox if i want to. [04:00] I was also curious about this: is there a way to run linux while running windows, like run linux as a program of windows? [04:01] iceman1521, vmware, virtialbox, qemu let you run linux inside windows [04:01] or ya can use them to run windows inside linux [04:01] ok cool, I'll check that out after I finish with this first project [04:02] lol anyone heard of the linux box thingy? [04:02] were your desktops are in a box and you can spin them and stuff [04:02] You mean the compiz cube? [04:02] !compiz [04:02] Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion [04:03] oh oh god thanks so much,,... [04:03] cant wait haha [04:03]