[00:00] <jordan_> thx for your time either way
[00:00] <jordan_> gonna sit and try to learn
[00:00] <genii> hmm, 2.6.24
[00:01] <spiroo> genii: Yes, I have an "old" version of ubuntu in school. There I have hda :D
[00:01] <Kr|ptiX> genii : u kno anything bout intel drivers?
[00:01] <RDC> stdin: following your instructions i now have a prompt: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62189/
[00:02] <RDC> can you advise?
[00:02] <genii> Kr|ptiX: Intel driver for what devices?
[00:02] <stdin> RDC: I tend to just hit "Y" on those, to get the latest version
[00:02] <genii> Kr|ptiX: nvm I see now 945GM
[00:02] <spiroo> How does labelling in NTFS partitions work then? Is there nothing like it in ext partiions? Would be nice to see in future if not ;) Not a request though :P
[00:02] <Kr|ptiX> genii : yeah :)
[00:03] <spiroo> I like to rename my music partition to Harmony :) Feels much nicer than sd7 :D
[00:03] <spiroo> *sda7
[00:03] <genii> Kr|ptiX: Thats the same video this laptop uses, the i915 driver works fine with it
[00:04] <Kr|ptiX> genii where do i get it :) im totally new on update drivers
[00:04] <jordan_> are there any other desktops apart from gnome and kde
[00:05] <hyperactivecrond> jordan_: yes.
[00:05] <jordan_> what ones???
[00:05] <RDC> k, stdin: wish me luck... rebooting...thx again!
[00:05] <stdin> gl :)
[00:05] <genii> Kr|ptiX: AFAIK it's the default one, i didn't use any restricted etc etc.
[00:05] <spiroo> Is it possible to run svn-packages? For instance if I wanna run latest Amarok2 changes ... ?
[00:06] <Kr|ptiX> genii huh u lost me
[00:06] <jordan_> is berile one as i heard you can customize that alot
[00:06] <hyperactivecrond> jordan_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87276
[00:06] <maurokde> alguien que hable español?
[00:06] <jordan_> ty
[00:06] <hyperactivecrond> maurokde:  /join #ubuntu-es
[00:06] <hyperactivecrond> !es | maurokde
[00:06] <ubotu> maurokde: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[00:06] <maurokde> conocen algun servidor de kubuntu en español¿?
[00:06] <maurokde> ok thnks
[00:07] <hyperactivecrond> maurokde: debes entrar el canal #kubuntu-es - alli hay personas que pueden contestar sus preguntas.
[00:08] <vit> kmos
[00:08] <hyperactivecrond> look at me, bustin out the spanish
[00:10] <Azzco> Anyone know how to determine what dsp device is mic with OSS? Can't find any documentation..
[00:11] <spiroo> Not that Konversation is not good, not at all. Jsut wondering if it will be ported to KDE4 later?
[00:12] <jordan_> that was cool thread
[00:12] <Jucato> spiroo: it will be
[00:12] <stdin> spiroo: eventually, but there will be a kde3 release first
[00:12] <Jucato> porting will start after the last KDE 3 release (1.1)
[00:12] <spiroo> Jucato: allright :)
[00:12] <spiroo> nice
[00:12] <rui> stdin: (rdc here) thx again, you are a legend!
[00:12] <hyperactivecrond> jordan_: i think you want compiz-fusion. that gives you the nice desktops. but that runs on top of kde / gnome/ other wm
[00:12] <stdin> rui: I take it that worked then :)
[00:13] <spiroo> Looking forward to see future KDE4. Damn as they working on KDE.
[00:13] <Jucato> rui: he's ancient!
[00:13] <jordan_> compiz-fusion thats gives the 3d cube effect for screen change right??
[00:13] <jordan_> or other effects
[00:13] <rui> i'm wondering where i should post your instructions so someone else can benefit... any suggestions?
[00:13] <hyperactivecrond> jordan_: yes
[00:13] <stdin> in the forum maybe
[00:13] <stdin> !forum
[00:13] <ubotu> The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[00:14] <jordan_> i was more thinking changign the look of the menus etc and colours
[00:14] <rui> oh yes, that it did my friend... i'm back in business... and off to read up on the commands you suggested that got me out of this mess
[00:14] <Ze_M> rui: q passa
[00:15] <Ze_M> Riddell: ping
[00:16] <Riddell> Ze_M: hmm?
[00:16] <Ze_M> Riddell: do you mind talk in private?
[00:17] <pidus> dwidmann: I could fix that :D
[00:17] <spiroo> Keep up the good work everyone. GNU/Linux will conquer the throne soon! :D Going to bed now, ciao.
[00:22] <jhutchins_wk> !find perl-Time-HiRes
[00:22] <ubotu> No packages matching 'perl-time-hires' could be found
[00:22] <jhutchins_wk> !find apache-suexec
[00:23] <ubotu> No packages matching 'apache-suexec' could be found
[00:24] <stdin> the !find and !info functions are currently broken, use http://packages.ubuntu.com
[00:24] <jhutchins_wk> tnx
[00:24] <Nyad> how do I get the values of environment variables? like $path?
[00:24] <rui> thx again stdin... in honour of your assistance... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4654099#post4654099
[00:24] <stdin> Nyad: echo $PATH
[00:25] <Nyad> tnx
[00:25] <stdin> or "env" to print them all
[00:25] <Nyad> echo env just prints env
[00:25] <stdin> rui: glad go it working
[00:26] <stdin> Nyad: no, just "env", no "echo"
[00:26] <stdin> I'd pipe that through less generally, like "env | less"
[00:27] <Nyad> how do I exit that thing?
[00:27] <stdin> press "q"
[00:27] <nosrednaekim> or control+c
[00:27] <Nyad> cntrl+z seems to do the same thing
[00:28] <stdin> ctrl-z suspends it, not exit
[00:28] <stdin> so it's still running in the background
[00:28] <Nyad> ok. what's a good ssh client?
[00:29] <stdin> I just use ssh
[00:29] <Nyad> sudo apt-get install ssh?
[00:29] <stdin> no, that'd install the ssh server, the client is already installed
[00:29] <Nyad> woops
[00:29] <stdin> use "ssh username@hostname" to use it
[00:30] <Nyad> should I remove the server or is it not serious?
[00:30] <stdin> remove it unless you want to be able to login remotely over the network
[00:31] <Nyad> ok
[00:32] <Nyad> if I do want to log into my pc from somewhere else how would I do that?
[00:32] <stdin> you just need to know it's IP address or DNS name. then you do "ssh (your user name)@(your IP/hostname)"
[00:34] <stdin> you can set host aliases locally by editing /etc/hosts or using the GUI (System Settings -> Network Settings ->(Administrator Mode) -> Domain Name System )
[00:35] <Nyad> tnx
[00:40] <Azzco> Isn't there any ossmixer?
[00:41] <Nyad> how do I change environment variables? like this,  $CVSROOT="mychanges"
[00:41] <stdin> Nyad: just remove the $
[00:42] <Nyad> ok
[00:48] <jay> Howdy.  Downloaded the latest beta of Kubuntu, trying to figure out where on the alt boot CD the RAID options are.  I see LVM just fine, but I want the whole thing to exist on a RAID1.
[00:51] <DarkJustice> Hi, I've got a fresh install of kubuntu on a machine I'd like to network with my XP box, samba sees the shared folders on the kubuntu but doesn't see my XP box and I"ve also tried to add a user in smbusers but when I try to make the password it tells me Failed to modify password entry for user
[00:51] <jay> I know the Fedora installer has RAID options built into the partition manager, but I don't see somewhere to set that in Kubuntu.
[00:53] <jay> Unfortunately I don't really have the option to use the latest stable, as some of my hardware (SATA controller, for starters) is unsupported.
[01:02] <hummesse> hey everybody. The name of my desktop folder is named after the translation of "desktop" into danish, but i want it named "Desktop". How do i do that?
[01:05] <jay> hummesse: Start up a terminal, and type "mv $DANISH_NAME Desktop"
[01:05] <hummesse> ok and thats it? nice.. thanks
[01:05] <genii> hummesse: Not all, look here for other http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4527766
[01:06] <hummesse> ok thanks again
[01:06] <jay> Doh, forgot that part; sorry. :-)
[01:06] <genii> jay: :)
[01:08] <jay> Kinda new to Linux on the desktop, I'm used to living in serverland...
[01:09] <jay> Just can't figure out how to get RAID1 working on install...
[01:15] <Connor> .
[01:20] <hm_> linuxreality
[01:22] <Nyad> hm thats a good podcast
[01:22] <linuxguymarshall> What is the command for opening up restricted drivers?
[01:24] <banumiel> :D
[01:25] <hm_> I really enjoy the information presented by Chess Griffin
[01:25] <Nyad> linuxguymarshall:  isn't there an icon for doing that?
[01:25] <Nyad> also the system settings
[01:27] <hm_> #linuxreality
[01:28] <linuxguymarshall> nyad:no there is  no setting
[01:29] <linuxguymarshall> nyad: Nvm, I have played with terminal and accessed it.
[01:30] <dek> is there a KDE GUI for Vim?
[01:36] <Nyad> kmenu-->system settings   advance tab  -->restricted drivers
[01:40] <tin> dek: not kde specific, but there is a gtk gui for vim
[01:41] <jereme> does anyone have a problem with the system hanging when logging out of X...  7.10, ATI card
[01:41] <tin> but unless you LOVE vim, kate is a great KDE editor
[01:41] <tin> jereme: what ati drivers? i've had some problems, i actually don't use kdm anymore, just console logins and startx
[01:42] <jereme> the pkg ati drivers I think, let me look again
[01:42] <tin> i've got an x1050 (rv360 according to Xorg), and i'm using the oldish 8.43 drivers i think, they're from november i think
[01:42] <jereme> yeah the ones ubuntu provides
[01:42] <tin> newer ones gave me weird problems getting the screen dimensions i wanted
[01:43] <jereme> 0.0.1+git20070918-1ubuntu1
[01:43] <tin> 1152x864 isn't THAT weird, is it?
[01:43] <jereme> no
[01:43] <jereme> 2x1 is weird
[01:43] <tin> jereme: try new ones from ati, i actually kind of recall a fix for logout hangs in a recent version
[01:44] <tin> ati's installer can even make packages for you, so apt knows about all the stuff they install
[01:44] <jereme> from what the internets at googles are telling me, it might be related to framebuffer support
[01:44] <jereme> yeah the ATI drivers do it too
[01:44] <jereme> tried that awhile back
[01:45] <jereme> now I'm trying to get office 2k3 working in crossover and I'm finally tired of the lockups when I go to reboot
[01:45] <tin> what card? because kernel framebuffer support for most cards is shite
[01:45] <jereme> 9700 I think
[01:45] <tin> hmm, that's r300 series
[01:46] <tin> i think framebuffer support for them is crap, try taking that out of the kernel
[01:46] <tin> and/or try turning off kdm and starting X manually
[01:47] <tin> if you don't need kdm's multiple simultaneous session handling, you won't even notice the diff
[01:47] <jereme> ha there's a whole list of folks who have solved it by switching from DVI to D-SUB
[01:47] <tin> now that's weird, and sucky
[01:47] <Dr_willis> d-sub? Huh.. that the new replacement for dvi?
[01:47] <jereme> no kidding
[01:47] <Dr_willis> I aint even seen one of those yet. heh
[01:47] <jereme> Dr_willis: it's the newest thing... now we don't have to bother with that digital signal anymore
[01:48] <jereme> we can enjoy the wonderment of amazing analog signal!
[01:48] <Dr_willis> We need USB monitor conectors!
[01:48] <jereme> tired of crisp images and perfect fonts?
[01:48] <Dr_willis> :)
[01:48] <Dr_willis> but your movies now have auto-anti-aliasing!
[01:49] <jereme> I'm more into pro-aliasing..
[01:49] <jereme> chunk that text up for me a bit
[01:49] <jereme> it's too readable
[01:49] <Dr_willis> C64 emulation
[01:50] <tin> well, raw pixels of 1024x768x32bpp@60Hz is 180 MB per second
[01:50] <jereme> there you go tin... check out 320x200
[01:50] <tin> that's more than full speed usb2
[01:50] <jereme> commodore had it right
[01:50] <tin> or hi speed, whatever the fastest one is, 400 Mbit per s
[01:50] <jereme> one of the owners of the co. I work for had a usb monitor
[01:50] <Dr_willis> tin,  i did see some mention of a usb monitor - in a pc mag.
[01:50] <jereme> but returned it right away
[01:50] <jereme> I guess it was horrid
[01:51] <jereme> oh yeah they definitely exist, we briefly had them
[01:51] <Dr_willis> tin,  aparentlyu the video card was in the moniitor not the pc.
[01:51] <jereme> yup, and it's a crappy card
[01:51] <tin> now, a graphics processor on usb would be feasible
[01:51] <jereme> it looks like dsub on a 50' unshielded cable
[01:51] <SlimeyPete> tin: it exists... someone released one a while ago now
[01:51] <SlimeyPete> apparently it was pretty naff
[01:51] <jereme> wrapped around a power substation
[01:52] <tin> could be even more feasible with a vector drawing system
[01:52] <tin> because then nly commands get sent over usb, not image data
[01:53] <tin> 640x480x32bpp@30Hz is only 55MBps
[01:53] <tin> that's kind of doable with usb2
[01:53] <SlimeyPete> 24bpp is fine for most applications anyway
[01:54] <tin> transparency's becoming all the rage though
[01:54] <jereme> brb
[01:55] <nonewmsgs> do people pay for bsd
[01:55] <genii> nonewmsgs: Not usually
[01:55] <SlimeyPete> doubt it, but I imagine people pay for support.
[01:56] <nonewmsgs> someone said that bsd official ISOs are warez and that threw me off
[01:56] <SlimeyPete> they're wrong.
[01:58] <nonewmsgs> SlimeyPete:  thanks
[02:00] <yao_ziyuan> can installing realplayer for linux compromise my security?
[02:01] <patoe1> yo
[02:01] <SlimeyPete> hi.
[02:02] <patoe1> im just wondering, iv been talking to soem people and they say xubuntu is better then kubuntu
[02:02] <patoe1> whats the diffrence?
[02:02] <nonewmsgs> patoe1: to get xubuntu too as see for yourself all you have to do is type sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[02:02] <Jucato> Kubuntu uses KDE. Xubuntu uses Xfce.
[02:03] <Jucato> !xfce | patoe1
[02:03] <ubotu> patoe1: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels
[02:03] <SlimeyPete> kubuntu uses KDE for its desktop environment, Xubuntu uses XFCE. Basically, they look different and have different apps installed by default.
[02:03] <SlimeyPete> It's all a matter of taste - they're the same system underneath.
[02:03] <patoe1> ok
[02:03] <patoe1> someone just said that "No, Kubuntu is KDE. You don't want to use KDE as it is used for gay sex activities, etc."
[02:03] <patoe1> :p
[02:04]  * Jucato sighs
[02:04] <nonewmsgs> i do have a lesbian video but i think i had to download that on my own
[02:04] <patoe1> lol
[02:04] <Jucato> !language
[02:04] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[02:04] <SlimeyPete> time for slashignore
[02:04]  * patoe1 laughs, and says sorry
[02:04] <jereme> wow.. I just learned that he sysrequest key can get me out of a hard lockup
[02:04] <jereme> that's pretty cool
[02:04] <neville_> how?!
[02:05] <jereme> I did alt+sysreq and held that down while I pressed and released s, then u, then b
[02:05] <jereme> which stand for (s)ync disk, (u)nmount and re(b)oot
[02:05] <jereme> and even though I was seemingly frozen solid, I rebooted
[02:05] <jereme> my capslock wasn't even working, but this worked
[02:06] <neville_> Ooh
[02:06] <neville_> Sounds like something only a contortionist can achieve :P
[02:06] <jereme> well crawling under my desk to find the power button also requires a contortionist
[02:07] <jereme> and I noodle on guitar, so it's not much harder than some chords I've played
[02:08] <patoe1> sysreq is the windows key if you have a keyboard made for windows right ;)
[02:08] <patoe1> ?
[02:08] <jereme> nope
[02:08] <jereme> it's the other half of the print screen key
[02:08] <patoe1> oh haha i see it now
[02:08] <patoe1> thanks
[02:08] <patoe1> grrr, hat head
[02:09] <patoe1> 533kb/s not bad...
[02:09] <patoe1> i gess ill be back
[02:09] <patoe1> peace
[02:10] <jereme> crapping eh... crossover is pissing me off
[02:10] <patoe1> no im installing xubuntu
[02:10] <patoe1> i hope sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop is the right command
[02:10] <patoe1> :p
[02:11] <Jucato> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/xubuntu
[02:11] <nonewmsgs> yes and you can just switch on the login screen
[02:12] <patoe1> for my defult display manager do i want  gdm or kdm?
[02:12] <nonewmsgs> patoe1: they both work
[02:12] <patoe1> is one better then the other?
[02:12] <lord-kelvin> Hello Everyone
[02:13] <nonewmsgs> patoe1: i think once i picked kdm and i had to logout before i did a shut down.
[02:13] <patoe1> hah ok,,,
[02:13] <Jucato> old bug
[02:14] <nonewmsgs> Jucato: most likely but people remember those far after they've been squashed
[02:14] <nonewmsgs> i didnt mean to be a jerk but for that reason i have always selected gdm afterwards
[02:23] <stefanos> hey guys!
[02:24] <stefanos> Konqueror doesnt load any website. Am I doing something wrong?
[02:26] <karllenz> hey im having a hardtime getting wifi to work on my mac using ndiswrapper
[02:27] <karllenz> i follow the ubuntu wiki instructions to the t
[02:40] <yao_ziyuan> how do i disable remote login?
[02:41] <yao_ziyuan> my root password is 9 chars long
[02:41] <samuel> I got a question
[02:41] <yao_ziyuan> how long are you guys' passwords?
[02:41] <samuel> for the new hardy heron is there a certain javascript update I need to run?
[02:42] <yao_ziyuan> i'm gonna extend my password to 16 chars
[02:52] <nonewmsgs> mine is 9
[02:52] <nonewmsgs> i wish that passphrases instead of passwords became the norm
[02:54] <Dr_willis> i always use 'password' for my password! no one ever guesses that
[02:54] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:54] <Daisuke-Ido> the big question would be why did that dummy (and i use that term will all of the malice one can possibly imagine) even enable root?
[02:55] <moregreen> hey dr willis
[02:55] <moregreen> for non secure shit,  its fun using password with a lisp
[02:55] <moregreen> :P
[02:55] <Daisuke-Ido> heh
[02:55] <Dr_willis> hmm.. by default remote login is disabled...
[02:56]  * Dr_willis reads the history buffer some more.
[02:56] <Daisuke-Ido> i actually considered using supercalifragilisticexpialidocious in "l337" speak as a password
[02:56] <moregreen> lol
[02:57] <moregreen> lashcord
[02:57] <moregreen> mashboard
[02:57] <moregreen> washpord
[02:57] <moregreen> etc
[02:57] <moregreen> lol
[02:58] <Dr_willis> thers secure, then theres paranoid, then thers silly.. :)
[03:03] <carlos> hola que tal??
[03:04] <Odd-rationale> !es | carlos
[03:04] <ubotu> carlos: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[03:08] <moregreen> hey my kubuntu is really fuckin up... anyone got this ?
[03:09] <Daisuke-Ido> !language | moregreen
[03:09] <ubotu> moregreen: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[03:09] <moregreen> ok
[03:09] <moregreen> its always freezing
[03:09] <moregreen> out of nowhere.
[03:10] <moregreen> how do i check the logs from my last session?
[03:12] <funda> is there something other than testdisk/photorec i can use to recover images from a screwed up ext3 partition?
[03:13] <rmiranda> hola
[03:23] <Fritzel> what's the proper way to add a new user?
[03:23] <LimCore> Fritzel: adduser
[03:23] <LimCore> surprisingly
[03:23] <Fritzel> -nod- yeah old school ^^ ok just making sure I wasn't missing a tool somewhere
[03:23] <Fritzel> thank you
[03:23] <Daisuke-Ido> there is a tool.
[03:23] <Fritzel> what's it called?
[03:23] <Fritzel> or rather wehre is it
[03:24] <Fritzel> where too
[03:24] <Daisuke-Ido> dunno, not using kde anymore
[03:24] <Daisuke-Ido> system settings, users, maybe
[03:24] <p_quarles> not to be a contrarian, but useradd is actually better for creating new users
[03:24] <Fritzel> well it doesn't have to be anything fancy, I just want a certain program to run as a unique user,
[03:25] <Fritzel> adduser should work
[03:31] <new_user> hola
[03:31] <iceman1521> hey, I need help deciding what linux distro I need...
[03:32] <neville_> Well, what are you after?
[03:32] <iceman1521> I have a really old computer and I just want it to be able to stream mp3s from my network
[03:32] <iceman1521> thats really all it needs to do
[03:32] <neville_> How old is really old?
[03:32] <Daisuke-Ido> define really old
[03:32] <iceman1521> well its running windows 95
[03:32] <iceman1521> its a second hand computer so i'm not totally sure about how old
[03:32] <Daisuke-Ido> so at least a 486
[03:32] <iceman1521> its got 192 mb of ram
[03:33] <Daisuke-Ido> oh, you should be fine
[03:33] <Daisuke-Ido> geexbox + nfs shares
[03:33] <Daisuke-Ido> is one option
[03:33] <iceman1521> ok, i'll check that out, thanks
[03:33] <otromas> hi!
[03:34] <Daisuke-Ido> iceman1521, is the old machine going to be the one holding or playing the songs?
[03:34] <otromas> somebody can recommend me any IM client?
[03:35] <Daisuke-Ido> otromas, pidgin
[03:35] <Daisuke-Ido> does aim, msn, yahoo, google, irc, jabber...
[03:35] <otromas> thank's Daisuke-Ido!
[03:44] <iceman1521> sorry Daisuke, had to run to the bathroom...the old machine is going to be playing the songs
[03:47] <patoe1> xubuntu is better
[03:47] <patoe1> :D
[03:47] <patoe1> now that i tryed ot
[03:47] <patoe1> it
[03:47] <Dr_willis> fluxbuntu
[03:47] <aurora> hola
[03:47] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:47] <aurora> hola
[03:47] <Dr_willis> I just install the xfce-desktop on my other machine. No need for me to use xubuntu.
[03:47] <yordy> hola
[03:47] <patoe1> well yea
[03:47] <Dr_willis> and the xfce desktop is lacking in some areas
[03:47] <Dr_willis> its nice in other ways. :)
[03:48] <yordy> alguen que able español
[03:48] <patoe1> im using xfce on kubuntu
[03:48] <patoe1> no hablo espanol seinor
[03:48] <yordy> de donde eres amor
[03:48] <Dr_willis> !es
[03:48] <ubotu> Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[03:48] <patoe1> no hablo espanol seinor :p
[03:49] <patoe1> haha
[03:49] <patoe1> thats all i know how to say
[03:49] <yordy> ok
[03:49] <otromas> yo yordy! pero no se mucho
[03:49] <yordy> español
[03:49] <yordy> tu eres de donde
[03:49] <patoe1> i wish i was smart like Dr_Willis :(
[03:50] <patoe1> :'(
[03:50] <Dr_willis> !cookie | patoe1
[03:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cookie - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:50] <Dr_willis> Oh well..  :) cookies.. Hmm.  I have cookies i can bake! Brb.
[03:50] <patoe1> i get a cookie :D
[03:50]  * patoe1 eats cookie before anyone can steal it
[03:51] <patoe1> is there an eqivelent to task manager in ubuntu?
[03:52] <Odd-rationale> patoe1: ksysguard
[03:52] <patoe1> or kubuntu or xubuntu or w.e :p
[03:52] <patoe1> thanks
[03:52] <otromas> que necesitas yordy?
[03:53] <patoe1> time to kill firefox
[03:53] <patoe1> froze up
[03:54] <iceman1521> with geexbox will i be able to play mp3s from a networked windows pc?
[03:54] <Dr_willis> iceman1521,  i can with my geexbox :)
[03:55] <Dr_willis> Geexbox is .. a nifty  thing. I have my laptop setup with it as  grub boot option.
[03:55] <Dr_willis> I even watch videos and shoutcast streams
[03:56] <iceman1521> ok well I'm just wanting to turn this POS windows 95 computer into a music player to connect to a stereo
[03:56] <iceman1521> thats really all it needs to do
[03:56] <Dr_willis> geexbox can do that. You can even isntall it to hard drive  if wanted.
[03:56] <iceman1521> ok great
[03:56] <Odd-rationale> Dr_willis: were you looking for the "helpersnack"  factiod?
[03:57] <iceman1521> I'm totally new to linux, I've been wanting to mess with it for years but never have and this seemed like the perfect time to do so
[03:57] <Dr_willis> Odd-rationale,  :) a lot of the old factoids are gone it seems.
[03:57] <Dr_willis> geexbox is rather hands off linux. :)
[03:57] <iceman1521> well hands off seems like a good place to start
[03:57] <Dr_willis> You can run the geexbox customizer tool onwindows and make a customized geexbox live cd, you can then install.
[03:58] <iceman1521> yeah, thats what I'm doing right now
[03:58] <Dr_willis> Then you can install geexbox to hard drive if you want to, or not.
[03:58] <Dr_willis> it boots very fast anyway from cd.
[03:58] <Dr_willis> ive had a lot of issues with the 'next' testing release/version/beta of geexbox however. :(
[03:58] <iceman1521> yeah I'll probably install it to the hard drive, this computer has 6 gigs and its gonna have nothing else on except maybe some music
[03:59] <iceman1521> I'll definitely be sticking with a stable version
[04:00] <Dr_willis> I have geexbox on a 50mb partition, then ubuntu installed after that.
[04:00] <Dr_willis> i have grub set where i can boot geexbox if i want to.
[04:00] <iceman1521> I was also curious about this: is there a way to run linux while running windows, like run linux as a program of windows?
[04:01] <Dr_willis> iceman1521,  vmware, virtialbox, qemu let you run linux inside windows
[04:01] <Dr_willis> or ya can use them to run windows inside linux
[04:01] <iceman1521> ok cool, I'll check that out after I finish with this first project
[04:02] <patoe1> lol anyone heard of the linux box thingy?
[04:02] <patoe1> were your desktops are in a box and you can spin them and stuff
[04:02] <Dr_willis> You mean the compiz cube?
[04:02] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[04:02] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[04:03] <patoe1> oh oh god thanks so much,,...
[04:03] <patoe1> cant wait haha
[04:03] <patoe1> thats so sweet
[04:04] <iceman1521> dr willis - any chance you wanna help me decide on what things I should choose on this geexbox generator cuz I'm a little lost on a lot of these options
[04:09] <peterjordan> morning all
[04:09] <Dr_willis> iceman1521,  most of them are not needed. i just always have it download./use all the codecs. and perhaps pick a theme. then i set the samba username/password for my lan
[04:09] <Odd-rationale> peterjordan: hello
[04:25] <Odd-rationale> patoe1: sudo apt-get install ccsm
[04:26] <patoe1> yea i got it
[04:26] <patoe1> and its amazing xD
[04:26] <patoe1> i just need to add more desktops...
[04:27] <Odd-rationale> patoe1: open ccsm and go to general options, in the desktop siize tab, set h=4, v=1, and no. of desks=1
[04:28] <Dr_willis> iceman1521,  if you use nfs - enable nfs. :) if not .. dont
[04:28]  * Dr_willis eats all the cookies befor patoe1  can grab any more
[04:29]  * patoe1 crys
[04:29] <ahr> d'you guys troubleshoot stuff here?
[04:30] <Dr_willis> yes we do.
[04:30]  * Dr_willis gives patoe1  one more cookie.
[04:30]  * patoe1 smiles and eats very quickly
[04:32] <Fritzel> if I'm trying to make a new startup script, and I use the proper 'update-rc.d' to set it up, do I need to send the application to the background with & or does the system take care of that for me? I don't want to get stuck halfway through the boot process
[04:32] <ahr> kool so is anybody up on 'gspca'?
[04:33]  * patoe1 runs to the kitchen and makes a batch of cookies and brings them back
[04:33] <iceman1521> Once I burn a Geexbox image, how do I install it to my hard drive?
[04:34] <Dr_willis> havent read their docs yet? :)
[04:34] <Dr_willis> type 'install' at the grub: prompt
[04:34] <iceman1521> lol no i gues not
[04:34] <Dr_willis> or was it grub: geexbox install
[04:34] <Dr_willis> One of those
[04:35] <Dr_willis> You can even keep video/audio files on the hd for geexbox to find.
[04:35] <iceman1521> well I plan on wiping the hard drive clean when I install it
[04:35] <iceman1521> I just got this computer for free from somebody who didn't want it so I don't need anything it has
[04:40] <patoe1> and another question how do i do networking on this?? like so i can look at the files on my other computer
[04:44] <patoe1> ....
[04:46] <gp> hello
[04:46] <gp> i want to make a custom unbuntu distro
[04:47] <thepirateman> hey
[04:47] <thepirateman> can someone help me installing kubuntu, the partition part is really messed up
[04:48] <thepirateman> when i come to the prepare partitions part
[04:48] <thepirateman> it only finds /dev/sda
[04:48] <thepirateman> even though i already have ubuntu and windows installed
[04:48] <thepirateman> i just want to reinstall kubuntu ya know?
[04:49] <thepirateman> fresh install
[04:49] <DarkestHour> Hey guys, i'm running the KDE4 in 7.10 here, and how to i edit Kickoff/application launcher menu?
[04:50] <Azzco> #kubuntu-kde4 ?
[04:50] <DarkestHour> ahh woops, totally didnt read that in the motd, lol, sorry
[04:55] <thepirateman> i guess not..
[04:57] <Thayle> Hey I'm trying Kubuntu for the first time (and its also my first time trying linux in general) and when I try to select "Start and Install" form the CD menu it goes to a weird screen with green vertical lines going across the entire screen, and little colored bars throughout it.
[04:58] <Thayle> Anyone know how to fix this?
[04:58] <DarkestHour> that seems to be a video problem, try a Text mode installation.
[04:59] <DarkestHour> i'll be back on in 30 min
[04:59] <Thayle> so i have to do a text mode installation theres no other way to fix this?
[05:00] <GNUix> I have a laptop with a broadcom wireless card (requires firmware cutter) so I purchased a belkin pcmcia card (model F5D7010) which according to the docs is supported with the rt2500 driver but it isn't picking up.. what else can I do?
[05:01] <patoe1> my cube isnt working now :(
[05:02] <iceman1521> does anybody have any experience with geexbox not having any volume?
[05:06] <Fritzel> how can I set it so that a user can not login via a remote connection but can be su'd to
[05:06] <patoe1> does anyone know how to look at other networked computers
[05:10] <patoe1> Dr. Wilis you there?
[05:12] <patoe1> !server
[05:12] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[05:13] <patoe1> join #ubuntu-server
[05:14] <Dr_willis> Hmm
[05:14] <Dr_willis> define 'look at' :)
[05:14] <Dr_willis>  nmap -sP '192.168.1.*'
[05:14] <Dr_willis> scans my local network and shows what machines are up.
[05:15] <iceman1521> dr willis - do you know why my geexbox would have no volume and not allow me to adjust it?
[05:15] <iceman1521> when I press the volume up key the volume level thing comes up but doesn't change
[05:17] <Mr_Sonoma> anyone know of a good wiki for setting up printer sharing between a ubuntu and vista box? the ubuntu machine is the "server" and the vista machine is the "client" (laptop)
[05:18] <patoe1> ok i want to browes the files on the other computer and then run my music
[05:18] <patoe1> off the other computer so like a file browser
[05:19] <Dr_willis> Thats what samba is all about patoe1
[05:20] <Dr_willis> iceman1521,  are you using the proper keys to up/lower the volume? by default its / and 8 (or 9) for some odd reason
[05:20] <Dr_willis> i change them so i use / and . :)
[05:20] <iceman1521> yeah, it took me a minute to figure that out, but it still doesnt do anything
[05:22] <Dr_willis> hit o to enable the on screen display
[05:22] <Dr_willis> and see if ya see the voluke bar go across.
[05:22] <patoe1> so i have to DL samba....
[05:22] <Dr_willis> ive never had any issues with the sound. could be geexbox dont like your soundcard.
[05:22] <Dr_willis> !samba | patoe1
[05:22] <ubotu> patoe1: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[05:23] <Dr_willis> patoe1,  you install samba. is proberly a good idea.
[05:23] <Dr_willis> You also may want to use the smbfuse tool.
[05:23] <iceman1521> shit, i didn't even think about the sound card and i already wiped windows off
[05:23] <Dr_willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FuseSmb
[05:24] <Dr_willis> iceman1521,  a live cd test - would of been a good idea. :)
[05:24] <Dr_willis> then install.. heh
[05:24] <iceman1521> yeah hindsight is 20/20 lol
[05:30] <Jckl> while tring to mount my phone running windows mobile i use sudo modprobe coda but i am getting the error /sbin/mount.cefs: CODA kernel version mismatch:    anyone know how to get this working.. also its mobile 5.0
[05:32] <Jckl> the error actually follows the command mount /mnt/synce/
[05:37] <secleinteer> hi, i'm trying to burn flac files to an audio cd using k3b, but i'm getting an error saying the flac files can't be recognized by k3b
[05:37] <secleinteer> do i need to install another package to add flac support to k3b?
[05:39] <NickPresta> secleinteer, try installing "libk3b2-extracodecs".
[05:39] <secleinteer> NickPresta: i did
[05:40] <secleinteer> no change
[05:41] <NickPresta> secleinteer, you have libflac8 as well?
[05:41] <secleinteer> NickPresta: yes
[05:42] <dave11> !adept fix
[05:42] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[05:45] <NickPresta> secleinteer, hmm. I can add FLAC files to my audio project just fine. I have 'flac', 'libflac++6', 'libflac8' and 'k3b', 'libk3b2', 'libk3b2-extracodecs'.
[05:46] <secleinteer> NickPresta: i didn't have 'flac', installing it now
[05:47] <NickPresta> secleinteer, that would probably explain it :)
[05:47] <secleinteer> NickPresta: still no luck
[05:47] <NickPresta> really? That is really strange. Are you having a problem adding the FLAC files or does the error happen at the burn step?
[05:47] <secleinteer> NickPresta: adding them
[05:48] <patoe1> ok im back with yet another question
[05:48] <patoe1> sorry
[05:48] <secleinteer> NickPresta: "unable to handl the following files due to an unsupported format"
[05:48] <patoe1> :p
[05:50] <NickPresta> secleinteer, check out this bug report. It could be a sample size problem: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=463190
[05:50] <patoe1> ok i want to freshly install a version of linux on this computer, im thinking xubuntu but i dont wnat to go through the desktop thing, i just want to install but i dont want to do it throught hte desktop install
[05:51] <NickPresta> patoe1, there is an alternate install, which is text based and fairly quick.
[05:51] <patoe1> ok were do i get that?
[05:51] <secleinteer> NickPresta: yes, i think it is, i can add some other flac files just fine
[05:51] <secleinteer> i'll look into that, thanks for your help!
[05:52] <dave11> !slax
[05:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about slax - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:52] <NickPresta> secleinteer, yep. Alternately, you may consider high quality Ogg Vorbis.
[05:52] <patoe1> !pie
[05:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pie - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:53] <TeslaTony> Doesn anyone know how to set Opera to open torrent files rather than automatically downloading them?
[05:53] <Dr_willis> I was just on the SLAX homepage. :)
[05:53] <secleinteer> NickPresta: well if i can get the flac to work, i might as well use it
[05:53] <secleinteer> i'll look into the vorbis if i can't
[05:53] <dave11> lol
[05:53] <Dr_willis> i found opras torrent abilities.. a little lacking.
[05:53] <patoe1> ok were do i get the text base installer for xubuntu
[05:53] <NickPresta> patoe1, from the Xubuntu homepage
[05:54] <patoe1> ...ok
[05:54] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[05:54] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[05:54] <NickPresta> patoe1, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/gutsy/release/
[05:56] <nonewmsgs> potoe1 did you get xubuntu
[05:56] <patoe1> ?
[05:56] <dave11> went nuts yesterday and downloaded 7  live cds
[05:57] <patoe1> and i want Alternate install CD
[05:57] <NickPresta> patoe1, see the link I gave you
[05:57] <patoe1> im there
[05:57] <patoe1> im looking to know witch one i download now
[05:58] <TeslaTony> Dr_willis: Even though I use GNOME most of the time, KTorrent is my favorite Linux torrent program. However, I prefer Opera as a browser, except for that *#@&$! torrent issue (I have to download .torrent files, then open them)
[05:58] <NickPresta> patoe1, the Alternate Install CD
[05:58] <TeslaTony> Hence my question: Any way to fix that?
[05:58] <Dr_willis> TeslaTony,  i ALWAYS download the .torrent files anyway :)
[05:58] <patoe1> thanks
[05:58] <Dr_willis> TeslaTony,  i save them to my  ~/torrents_To_get dir. :) then ktorrent sees them added and starts downloading them
[05:59] <Dr_willis> ive had to pause a torrent for so long/ktorrent crash/whatever.. that ive had to go back and find the .torrent befor. i hate that.
[05:59] <patoe1> PC (Intel x86) alternate install CD
[05:59] <patoe1> that one
[05:59] <TeslaTony> Never had a crash in KTorrent...
[06:00] <TeslaTony> Had KDE, GNOME, and my computer (hardware issue) crash for various reasons, but never KTorrent
[06:00] <Dr_willis> Ive had severl issues in ktorrent.  so much lately ive been tempted to start using azurus
[06:00] <Dr_willis> lately ktorrent will have so many files open that it cant save data...
[06:00] <Dr_willis> restart ktorrent it and it fixes it for a while... thenit happens again.. some times it dont happen for days...
[06:02] <TeslaTony> Oh dear...how many torrents/files do you have going at once?
[06:06] <KevinAlaska> test .... can anyone read this message?
[06:07] <KevinAlaska> ~help
[06:07] <TeslaTony> No, but we are picking it up telepathically
[06:08] <KevinAlaska> really?!?! that's sweet !   just don't be reading my mind between 4 & 5!  that's my time! ;)
[06:09] <KevinAlaska> okay thank you!
[06:09] <saizai|work> is there some way to upgrade a 32 bit install of kubuntu to a 64 bit one?
[06:10] <saizai|work> I installed 32bit on this laptop (dell precision m4300) not realizing that it's a 64 bit cpu (intel t7500)
[06:10] <KevinAlaska> good question
[06:10] <TeslaTony> saizai|work: I'm pretty sure you have to back everything up and reinstall from scratch. Programs need to be reinstalled from scratch, too
[06:10] <Dr_willis> saizai|work,  not that i have ever seen. and you proberly wont gain much by going 64bit anyway
[06:10] <saizai|work> well, this affects eg vmware
[06:10] <saizai|work> I wanted to install other OSes under it :-P
[06:11] <Dr_willis> On a laptop - i hear the  64bit stuff can have  less/worse power saving features. which mean less battery life also.
[06:11] <TeslaTony> I switched to 32 bit after some trouble with the 64 bit and flash
[06:11] <Dr_willis> saizai|work,  how much ram you got?
[06:11] <saizai|work> 2gb
[06:11] <saizai|work> 2.2ghz
[06:11] <Dr_willis> saizai|work,   I dont think you will gain anything at all from going 64bit.
[06:12] <Dr_willis> dont know if you can  run a 64bit OS on vmware/32bit or not. never tried. But i do thinki saw that as an option
[06:12] <saizai|work> hm.
[06:12] <TeslaTony> Meh...probably a slight performance increase, but not enough to notice for most applications you should run on a linux laptop
[06:12] <saizai|work> eg I'd like to run Vista & OSX in parallel
[06:13] <saizai|work> take advantage of the nice hardware virtualization
[06:13] <saizai|work> and possibly run games in vista under vmware
[06:13] <Dr_willis> games and vmware = proerly not goint to work very well.
[06:14] <Dr_willis> I run vista and OSX unver vmware on my 32bit disrto. :)
[06:15] <saizai|work> hm.
[06:16] <saizai|work> could I boot directly into it *and* use it w/ vmware?
[06:16] <Dr_willis> Huh?
[06:17] <Dr_willis> i boot to linux, run vmware, and run xp and osx  in vmware.
[06:17] <hydrogen> there is some wonky method of booting into an installed partition using vmware
[06:17] <Dr_willis> or ya could piut vmware on windows, and run linux and osx under vmware then
[06:17] <hydrogen> but its dangerous and fairly undocumented
[06:17] <saizai|work> as in, have the vista run either in vmware or just straight as a boot
[06:17] <Dr_willis> hydrogen,  yep. and it causes big issues at atime.
[06:17] <Dr_willis> saizai|work,  thats NOT a good idea
[06:17] <neville_> OS X in vmware?
[06:17] <saizai|work> mph
[06:17] <Dr_willis> neville_,  yes. its doable..but not legal. :)
[06:17] <neville_> Is that a hackintosh image, or a proper copy?
[06:17] <saizai|work> then what about my games? :( :-P
[06:17] <TeslaTony> saizai|work: I think the Mac version of VMWare will let you do it
[06:18] <Dr_willis> saizai|work,  depends on the game.
[06:18]  * saizai|work gestures randomly
[06:18] <Dr_willis> vmware does not emulate a real 3d card.. so thats the end of many games
[06:18] <saizai|work> well, I'd like to be able to run 'em somehow
[06:18] <Dr_willis> many popcap games work
[06:18] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:18] <neville_> Have you tried Wine?
[06:18] <Dr_willis> but most of them work wine also.
[06:18] <saizai|work> neville_, I don't think that'd work for high-end graphics
[06:19] <neville_> How high end is high end?
[06:19] <Dr_willis> it all depends on the game...
[06:19] <saizai|work> iunno. bioshock?
[06:19] <Dr_willis> wine = possibiallity, vmware = not going to happen
[06:19] <neville_> Oh, yeah, problems there -_-v
[06:19] <Dr_willis> !appdb
[06:19] <ubotu> The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[06:19] <TeslaTony> For gaming, I'd recommend either running them through Wine (does NOT always work), or running Vista as your main OS, and virtualize OSX and Linux on top
[06:19] <neville_> Er
[06:19] <neville_> Anything but vista
[06:19] <neville_> :P
[06:19] <neville_> At least until they iron it out
[06:19] <Dr_willis> THEN theres the whole copyprotection issue.
[06:19] <saizai|work> which?
[06:20] <Dr_willis> I need to finish bioshock some day... im about 3/4 the way through
[06:20] <saizai|work> http://www.linux.com/feature/123800 seems to suggest that an upgrade would work
[06:20] <saizai|work> on fedora at least
[06:20] <saizai|work> to convert 32b -> 64b
[06:20] <nonewmsgs> why aren't we suggesting a dualboot?
[06:20] <neville_> Haha yeah :P
[06:21] <saizai|work> if I could dualboot and still vmware into my other OSs, that'd be awesome
[06:21] <neville_> Hold up, when I get my Hardy disk, how would I go about upgrading my installation from it?
[06:21] <nonewmsgs> no you boot windows and do your crysis and oblivion, etc
[06:21] <neville_> Is it an option in the alternative installer?
[06:21] <nonewmsgs> and then you restart and you do emails in linux
[06:21] <Dr_willis> saizai|work,  games are not going to work.. and if you boot to windows from the real hard drive.. it will see that its been installed on a new machine.. and set up all sorts of new devicews and so forth.. THEN if you boot back normally.. it will do it again
[06:22] <saizai|work> yeah but what if I suddenly need to SSH into my server inbetween games? zomg reboot would take soooooo loooooong :'( :-P
[06:22] <Dr_willis> Plus theres the XP/Vista hardware activation checks.. that will get all confused.
[06:22] <Dr_willis> what server? You can get ssh clients for windows...
[06:23] <saizai|work> (kidding a bit. but there are things I'd rather run under kubuntu)
[06:23] <Dr_willis> using a game machine as a 'spare server' ? must not be too imporntant a server.. heh
[06:23] <saizai|work> hm.
[06:24] <saizai|work> could I vmware into my dualboot kubuntu64 install from a vista install w/out issues?
[06:24] <nonewmsgs> that is not how it works
[06:24] <KevinAlaska_> microsoft requires a separate licence for windows even if is dual boot and running inVM
[06:25] <saizai|work> pfah.
[06:25] <Dr_willis>  and if it gets reactivated too many times.. it will shut you down. :)
[06:25] <KevinAlaska_> that I heard from microsoft them selves
[06:26] <Dr_willis> they changed the EULA for vista just because of vmare and other virtual-things :)
[06:26] <saizai|work> hmph.
[06:27] <saizai|work> could always just crack that
[06:27] <Dr_willis> if you have vista that came with your dell/compaq/whatever.. it may not even work on a vmware machine
[06:27] <KevinAlaska_> its because windows sees the hardware setup as a standalone I'd and running in VM as different hardware setups as it looks like from the windows persective.
[06:27] <Dr_willis> You would be better off doing a clean install of a spare copy of XP into vmware
[06:27] <saizai|work> it came w/ xp but I wiped that partition when installing kubuntu
[06:28] <Dr_willis> but none of this is going to help your window games
[06:28] <saizai|work> all I left was the dell partition
[06:28] <KevinAlaska_> the licence key will work on an OEM install cd of windows though
[06:29] <KevinAlaska_> well. ethic wise. you can argue to download a torrent of the image if you have a key already
[06:29] <Dr_willis> if you  can find a torrent thats not all full of.. stuff.. :)
[06:30] <nonewmsgs> KevinAlaska_: i usually do the opposite because i often still have the "real cd" but lose keys
[06:30]  * saizai|work just wants to get it to *work*
[06:30] <Dr_willis> if it was the version that came with the  DELL then technically hes not allowed to put that on another machine. BUt the definition of 'machine' is the issue.
[06:30] <Dr_willis> 'work' is not games. :)
[06:30] <KevinAlaska_> ask a friend. some mom and pop computer places will give you a burned cd if you show them the licence key sticker
[06:31] <KevinAlaska_> for a fee
[06:31] <nonewmsgs> OEM license keys and regular license keys aren' the same
[06:31] <Dr_willis> nonewmsgs,  i was thinking that also.
[06:31] <saizai|work> basically I want a) 64bit if it's not too much a hassle, b) osx, vista, kubuntu gutsy/hardy, maybe xp, c) a shared area for as much as possible of the data / cross-compatible stuff; d) vmware or other parllels/xen-y virtualization between 'em if possible; and e) everything to work (eg game :-P)
[06:31] <saizai|work> and iunno what the best way to do that would be
[06:31] <KevinAlaska_> I now... but a dell licence is an OEM type
[06:32] <nonewmsgs> multiple computers
[06:32] <saizai|work> nonewmsgs, ... and on just this laptop :-P
[06:32] <Dr_willis> saizai|work,  64bit will gain you nothing, you can eaially make a fat32 partition to share data   but ntfs is read/writeable now a days.  - vmware  works fine. For games dual boot back to windows.
[06:32] <KevinAlaska_> ebay I bet you can find some licence stickers from broke laptops etc
[06:33] <saizai|work> I thought you were saying vmware wouldn't work w/ an os (at least vista)  that was installed as a primary boot
[06:33] <Dr_willis> KevinAlaska_,  :) i recall some web site had 360 panarama of laptops/desktop machines..and you could read the stickers from those. :)
[06:33] <KevinAlaska_> yes dual boot
[06:33] <Dr_willis> saizai|work,  you do NOT want to run the currently installed windows/xp os on your hard drve inside vmware..
[06:34] <Dr_willis> vmware can install /run xp/vista/whatever - but  you do NOT want to run it from the 'installed system'
[06:34] <asobi> what's an easy gui zip/rar/tar program
[06:34] <Dr_willis> asobi,  ark  perhaps. or mc. :)
[06:34] <nonewmsgs> asobi: i like 7zip it handles everything
[06:34] <Dr_willis> depends on your needs.
[06:34] <Dr_willis> !info unp
[06:34] <ubotu> unp (source: unp): unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.12 (gutsy), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB
[06:35] <asobi> thanks
[06:35] <nonewmsgs> yeah the good dr_willis knows his stuffs
[06:35] <saizai|work> I like ark.
[06:35] <asobi> how do you put password in for ark?
[06:35] <nonewmsgs> although lately i use the default and it works so well 99% i am not even aware what it is ....beautifully seemless
[06:35] <saizai|work> Dr_willis, is OSX sensitive like that also?
[06:36] <Dr_willis> saizai|work,  os-x under non apple hardware is not legal. :) ive never ran it on  other hardware. just inside vmware.
[06:37] <Dr_willis> wich is also .. not really legal.
[06:37] <saizai|work> m
[06:37]  * saizai|work whistles
[06:37] <nonewmsgs> doesn't osx require some goofy propritary chip to even install?
[06:37] <Dr_willis> I do own an apple machine however. :)
[06:37] <Dr_willis> nonewmsgs,  thers hacked versions for vmware.
[06:37] <nonewmsgs> Dr oooo
[06:38] <Dr_willis> OSX uses that new type of bios/firmware thing.. in ther machines.. if thats what you mean.
[06:38] <saizai|work> I'm guessing partition management would also be a PITA
[06:38] <Dr_willis> EFI? EMI? vista was supposed to have support for it also.. but  it dident.
[06:39] <Dr_willis> one of the main featrues of vmware was the use of virtual hard drives for the OS's so you can easially move/backup the whole OS
[06:41] <nonewmsgs> this sounds more like a proof-of-concept than an actual need
[06:41] <KevinAlaska> not to mention the ability to simply access programs you don't to loose or simply can't loose because you still need them.
[06:41] <saizai|work> 'cept I can't do that 'cause of the vmware-breaks-games thing
[06:41] <saizai|work> so I guess my choice is to just go with a straight multiboot, no vm
[06:42] <KevinAlaska> the directS factor
[06:42] <KevinAlaska> err. directX
[06:42] <saizai|work> well, maybe w/ xen?
[06:43] <KevinAlaska> if games or high multimedia stuff on windows... then might need the multiboot
[06:43] <KevinAlaska> but
[06:43] <Dr_willis> xen and vista/xp - not doable
[06:43] <Dr_willis> i think.
[06:43] <saizai|work> :/
[06:44] <Dr_willis> unless they have done some serious changes in the last few months..
[06:44] <saizai|work> unlikely
[06:44] <nonewmsgs> i'd have mentioned reactOS but then he'd want to have that too
[06:44] <Dr_willis> so we are back where we started.. if you want games = dual boot
[06:44] <Dr_willis> BeOS
[06:44] <saizai|work> yeah.
[06:44] <Dr_willis> Hiku
[06:44] <saizai|work> meh.
[06:44] <saizai|work> ohwell, dualboot is acceptable
[06:44] <KevinAlaska> depending on how bad you need windows on some other OS the you COULD reinstall the do I'd
[06:44] <jords> I've just upgraded from gutsy to hardy, and now sudo does'nt work : sudo: unable to resolve host jords-laptop. I think the problem is that jords-laptop isn't specified in my /etc/hosts file, but I can't sudo to edit it
[06:45] <jords> this seems like a big bug
[06:45] <nonewmsgs> jords:  that isnt'a  bug that's DNS
[06:45] <KevinAlaska> reinstall winXP image or crack it
[06:45] <Dr_willis> jords,  boot to rescue mode and edit it. or boot live cd and edit it.
[06:46] <KevinAlaska> or reinstall!!!! XD. heh
[06:46] <jords> nonewmsgs: I know. But the hardy upgrade was what broke it
[06:46] <jords> Dr_willisL How do you do rescue mode?
[06:47] <jords> nvm i've found it
[06:48] <KevinAlaska> isn't rescue mode via the kernel you select at start?
[06:51] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:52] <Dr_willis> all rescue mode does is tack on the 'single' option the the kernel= lines :)
[06:52] <Dr_willis> i think
[06:55] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. Vista service pack one adds   support for new UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface) industry standard PC firmware for 64-bit systems with functional parity with legacy BIOS firmware/ Thats what we were talking about with the SPECIAL chips for apple hardware i think
[06:57] <KevinAlaska> no idea about that
[06:58] <Dr_willis> EFI is the  next generatsion bios replacement it seems. :)  whenever it gets here...
[06:58] <karas_> hi
[06:58] <Dr_willis> i want one of those new motherboardx with Linux built into the Motherboard.
[06:59] <KevinAlaska> spiffy
[07:00] <Dr_willis> then ya could play soilitare while the os boots. :)
[07:01] <kkathman> anyone know why you cant download compiz themes on kubuntu?
[07:01] <KevinAlaska> impatient are we!?  :P  I am
[07:01] <kkathman> the repositories say "click here" but nothing happens?
[07:03] <Dr_willis> compiz themes or Emerald themes?
[07:04] <Dr_willis> for emerald one Must do some commands/install some tools - to let the emerald theme manager get the latest themes
[07:04] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[07:04] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[07:04] <Dr_willis> Details on that url.
[07:07] <kkathman> no there were no details there
[07:07] <neville_> Can someone recommend to me a decent, although not overly expensive, motherboard I can use to milk my $58 E2140 for all the performance it's worth?
[07:09] <westy> i have been trying for a while to getting the nvidia settings to work but it keeps crashing x
[07:10] <westy> can someone help me or send me a howto guide
[07:10] <ere4si> !nvidia | westy seen this?
[07:10] <ubotu> westy seen this?: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:11] <westy> thanks m8
[07:11] <ere4si> :)
[07:16] <saizai|work> sohm, looks like osx install would be too much of a pita
[07:16] <rabindra__> i need to burn some avi files to a dvd, i am using kubuntu 7.10
[07:17] <rabindra__> which software do I need
[07:17] <ere4si> !k3b
[07:17] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[07:18] <Fritzel> where do you configure runlevels?
[07:19] <ere4si> Fritzel: depends on what you want to do - I use an app   sysv-rc-conf   from the repos
[07:19] <Fritzel> ere4si: I'll take a look and see if that does what I need it to, also what is the default run level for ubuntu?
[07:20] <ere4si> 2
[07:20] <Fritzel> 2? wow I wasn't expecting that, alright thanks
[07:20] <ere4si> in /etc/rc2.d
[07:23] <saizai|work> does kubuntu even come in 64bit for non-AMD processors?
[07:23] <saizai|work> I'm not seeing the dvd for 64x86
[07:23] <neville_> ..
[07:23] <neville_> They're one and the same
[07:23] <neville_> They work in EM64T or whatever it is, and AMD variety
[07:24]  * saizai|work tilts head
[07:24] <saizai|work> EM64T = Intel?
[07:25] <saizai|work> I have a centrinal t7500
[07:25] <saizai|work> *centrino
[07:25] <neville_> Yes
[07:25] <neville_> I dunno whether Centrino is 64bit though
[07:25] <neville_> But that 64bit version works on Intel and AMD
[07:26] <saizai|work> yet it's labeled as being for 64-bit AMD only
[07:27] <iceman15> does kubuntu have easy support for network music streaming? i just tried geexbox and it wouldnt give me any volume
[07:27] <saizai|work> amarok works
[07:28] <Dr_willis> iceman15 try some other live cd's/disrtos see if your sound card works in them.
[07:28] <Dr_willis> The geexbox customizer had some settinghs for sound cards i recall.. but never needed to mess with them.
[07:34] <iceman15> dr willis - i installed puppy and it worked
[07:34] <Dr_willis> iceman15,  thats weird.
[07:34] <saizai|work> Dr_willis, what's your hardware?
[07:35]  * saizai|work is curious how hard it'd be to get osx on this thing
[07:35] <Dr_willis> iceman15,  try DSL next. :)
[07:35] <Dr_willis> saizai|work,  as ive said befor.. I ran OS-X inside vmware. I got the vmware osx image.. and ran it :) took 10 sec.
[07:35] <Dr_willis> and it was not 100% legal to do so.
[07:37] <iceman15> dr willis, do you know anything about puppy linux? since i have it working i figure i could just keep it and use it if i can figure out how to stream over the network
[07:38] <Dr_willis> Puppy is a full yet small disrto. You can easially install extra things on it.
[07:38] <Dr_willis> or mount samba shares, or whatever if you want.
[07:38] <iceman15> ok cool, i do some browsing and hopefully figure it out
[07:39] <jerknextdoor> can anyone tell me how to add and remove apps from the kmenu?
[07:41] <Dr_willis> Yep theres 'puplets' that are thepuppy packages.. easy way would to be use fusesmb, if it has support for that.
[07:41] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. thers a menu editor i thought for kde. or you could mess with the various .destop files
[07:42] <Dr_willis> # apt-cache search kde | grep menu
[07:42] <Dr_willis> kmenuedit - menu editor for KDE
[07:42] <saizai|work> Dr_willis, you've not tried getting it to run straight then
[07:42] <jerknextdoor> sweet thanks.
[07:43] <Dr_willis> saizai|work, getting OS-X to install on non-apple-non-efi hardware.. will be a task
[07:45] <saizai|work> lol
[07:45] <saizai|work> I'll pass then
[07:46] <saizai|work> it runs well under vmware?
[07:46] <Dr_willis> it runs...
[07:46] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:48] <saizai|work> ha
[07:48] <saizai|work> any issues eg upgrading 10.4.10 to 10.5?
[07:48] <Dr_willis> you dont upgrade. :)
[07:49] <saizai|work> why?
[07:49] <Dr_willis> it will see its not a legit copy.
[07:49] <Dr_willis> go find it and try it out..  I ran it for all of 10 min just to see if it worked..  it did.. i dont reccomend using it.
[07:49] <saizai|work> there's not a 10.5x vmware image out?
[07:50] <saizai|work> m
[07:50] <Dr_willis> go look for it i guess.. Ive no idea.
[07:50] <saizai|work> m
[07:51] <saizai|work> I see an image of 10.5.1, tho not specifically for vmware
[07:55] <saizai|work> http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/gutsy/ is confusing re whether the amd64 version is appropriate for an 64-bit intel chip
[07:58] <TeslaTony> saizai|work: The amd64 version is for ALL 64 bit chips
[07:58] <SilentDis> will i be shot out of a cannon if i ask if there's a release date for 8.04 final?  *braces for impact*
[07:58] <saizai|work> TeslaTony, so I've figured now that I read the wikipedia article
[07:58] <saizai|work> but that really wasn't clear from the release doc
[07:58] <TeslaTony> SilentDis: It's either the 27th or the 29th
[07:58] <jerknextdoor> does anyone use virtualbox to dualboot kubuntu in osx?
[07:59] <SilentDis> TeslaTony: thanks much :)
[08:28] <sxenos_> I'm running Kubuntu 8.04 beta, with KDE 4 installed. When I change things in system settings -> display, the changes don't take effect and the "apply" button is disabled. How do I change my settings?
[08:45] <sxenos_> How do I connect to an IRC using Kopete?
[08:51] <ere4si> I found it easier to just install xchat sxenos_
[08:52] <sxenos_> ere4si: Yes, I have xchat and chatzilla, but I wanted to try the full KDE 4 experience... so I'm trying to learn to use the KDE IRC tool.
[08:53] <ere4si> sxenos_: good luck then - I've never tried it
[09:03] <jithin> Hello any one got any problem with mozilla vlc plugin for firefox 3
[09:20] <brend_> Firefox for Kubuntu
[09:24] <jerknextdoor> anyone know why i cant seem to turn off the sounds in konversation?
[09:26] <amit_> register!
[09:26] <ere4si> !register
[09:26] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[09:27] <amit_> !register
[09:27] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[09:27] <Jucato> jerknextdoor: Settings -> Configure Notifications
[09:29] <jerknextdoor> i did that but it is still making sounds when i get a notification.
[09:29] <jerknextdoor> maybe i just need to restart.  i've been playing with a bunch of stuff so it wouldnt surprise me if i broke something.  haha
[09:35] <Jucato> jerknextdoor: when are you getting the sound?
[09:44] <subspider> hi
[09:44] <subspider> i need help
[09:45] <Jucato> jerknextdoor: when are you getting the sound notifications in konvi?
[09:45] <Jucato> subspider: ask your question. if someone knows, they'll answer
[09:45] <Jucato> (if they're around)
[09:45] <subspider> i try to open de apt get and say that i have onother apt runnign but i don't see anything running
[09:45] <jerknextdoor> when i leave a room.  the notification pops up and it makes a sound
[09:46] <Jucato> jerknextdoor: Settings -> Configure Konversation -> Warning Dialogs
[09:46] <Jucato> !aptfix | subspider
[09:46] <ubotu> subspider: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[09:46] <subspider> thanks
[09:46] <subspider> cool ;)
[09:48] <jerknextdoor> there is no sound option under the warning dialogs menu.  i want the warning just not the sound.  oh well, its not that big of a deal.  lease of my problems really.
[09:49] <subspider> try ro seach where is sound file and take it out
[09:49] <Jucato> er...
[10:09] <rony_> ciaoooooooooooo
[10:10] <gh> where can i find info on building a kernel? specifically a 32bit kernel with PAE support?
[10:12] <ere4si> !kernel
[10:12] <ubotu> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[10:12] <Dr_willis> !kernel
[10:12] <Dr_willis> Lol
[10:12] <ere4si> hehe
[10:12] <gh> danke
[10:12] <gh> thank you*
[10:12] <ere4si> welkomme
[10:14] <jithin> can anyone help me in setting up plugins in firefox beta 5
[10:16] <jerknextdoor> do you have nightly tester tools?
[10:17] <jerknextdoor> that was directed at jithin
[10:19] <jithin> no
[10:20] <jithin> how do i get it (to jerknextdoor)
[10:24] <jithin> register sixfeet6
[10:45] <DexterF> hi
[10:45] <DexterF> !heron
[10:45] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[10:45] <rumbaroy> well, hello!
[10:46] <dsut> hello, world?
[10:46] <DexterF> how's the roadmap for hardy comming? release on 24th as planned?
[10:46] <DexterF> and what's it's status right now? beta as the bot says? no RC yet?
[10:48] <Dr_willis> Breakage every other day it seems . :)
[10:48] <rlount> DexterF, I have heard support for my Intel 3945 is broken so I have not checked much into it.
[10:48] <neville_> Rushing right into the full release is seen as silly, right?
[10:49] <neville_> How long in terms of support will Gutsy have left?
[10:49] <rlount> Sometime into 2009...
[10:50] <neville_> I might not bother in that case, everything is currently in a utopia-like state of being :P
[10:50] <Dr_willis> UtopiaLinux
[10:50] <Dr_willis> :)
[10:56] <_noname> hi there
[10:57] <DexterF> when does support for feisty run out?
[11:00] <_noname> I have erased all my data with DRAN by accident. The process just started when i realised that it is in progress so i rebooted the machine quickly. Can i recover my data somehow?
[11:00] <DexterF> what's DRAN?
[11:01] <rlount> that sounds like it sucks.
[11:01] <_noname> DexterF: it's a livecd to safely remove data
[11:01] <DexterF> _noname: live linux? what does it use to erase the disk, dd or shred?
[11:02] <rlount> _noname, boot a live cd and mount the disk if you can... copy whats left off to another disk. (?)
[11:02] <rlount> _noname, DRAN or DBAN?
[11:02] <DexterF> _noname: a good analysis before rushing to action is prefered in disk recovery. first, gather as much info about the target as possible. can you rememeber the partition layout?
[11:03] <rlount> I have used deriks boot & nuke and thats what it does. use with the most extreme caution you know.
[11:03] <JoshOvki> the whole point of DBAN is so you CANT get data back
[11:03] <rlount> totally.
[11:03] <_noname> DexterF: i used this
[11:03] <rlount> works really well.
[11:04] <JoshOvki> yeh
[11:04] <_noname> DexterF: http://dban.sourceforge.net/
[11:04] <JoshOvki> _noname: your buggered, like i said above its designed to stop you getting the databack
[11:04] <JoshOvki> you might be able to rescue all the stuff it didnt delete by booting from a live CD and copying everything to a new drive
[11:05] <_noname> DexterF: yes i had one winxp part on sda1 and sda3 - ext3 and swap at sda4
[11:05] <DexterF> _noname: well, it depends on how the tools that come it work. let's assume they work from sector zero to end and you pulled the power realy quick chances are only your windows partition is gone
[11:05] <_noname> JoshOvki: so it's impossible to recover the data?
[11:06] <DexterF> _noname: if DBAN for some reasons start by randomly writing across the disk, you're probably screwed but that would be the first time I heard of such a tool acting like this.
[11:06] <JoshOvki> _noname: any data that it removed it is yes. Its made to you cant use any recovery software to get it back  "DBAN prevents or thoroughly hinders all known techniques of hard disk forensic analysis."
[11:07] <JoshOvki> hard disk forensic analysis, is the techniques used to recover data
[11:07] <DexterF> JoshOvki: which usually means it uses "shred" which means it works sector 0 -> end. good chances only the first partition is hosed
[11:07] <DexterF> _noname: you say windows on sda1 *and* sda3 - so sda1 is win only, the OS, and sda3 is apps and data?
[11:08] <_noname> DexterF: too bad... i had lot of important data out ther (i mean the first partition)
[11:08] <_noname> DexterF: yes
[11:09] <DexterF> _noname: my suggestion: take the disk to a windows xp computer. install the following software: 1. Partition Magic 8.0   2. Stellar Pheonix for FAT/NTFS  3. Steallr Phoenix for Linux.
[11:09] <DexterF> _noname: use PM 8.0 to recover the partition table. use SP to recover data from the partitions (you'll need a fresh target disk)
[11:10] <JoshOvki> and prey alot
[11:10] <DexterF> for sda1: if you can recover the start, you pretty much have the start and end of sda1: sda1 starts at sector 64 and end right before sda3 (I guess, unless there's sda2, too)
[11:11] <DexterF> you can dd sector 64-(sda3-1) to a file and either run Stellar on this, or if Stellar happens not to support drive images (not sure) try GetDataBack.
[11:12] <_noname> i think i had swap@sda4 but i can't remember for sure DexterF
[11:12] <JoshOvki> _noname: http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1885756&forum_id=208932
[11:12] <DexterF> Stellar and GDB once got me back 70% of a crashed 120gig drive, so results are quite good. It's highly likely the first sectors on sd1 were the win inst, not data so I'd give it a shot.
[11:14] <DexterF> JoshOvki. _noname : there's no way to recover data that actuallay *has* been wiped. but _noname says he pulled the plug when dban was starting to work, so all we have here likely is a few lost sectors at the start of the disk.
[11:15] <DexterF> _noname: how big is sda1?
[11:16] <DexterF> ok, couple of kubuntu questions for a change: 1. in Gutsy, how do I get rid of Dolphin and have konqueror handle all file business again?
[11:16] <DexterF> and: why do konw mouse gestures not work anymore in gutsy?
[11:17] <llutz> !dophin
[11:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dophin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:17] <llutz> !dolphin
[11:17] <ubotu> Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[11:17] <llutz> DexterF: ^^
[11:17] <DexterF> :) thanks
[11:17] <_noname> DexterF: about 80 gigs, the same is the linux part but honestly i can recover most of data stored on linux part. since i have it backed up
[11:17] <jordan_> hey guys my xserver keeps randomly restarting?
[11:18] <DexterF> _noname: you'll get most of sda1/3 with PM and SP if really needed
[11:18] <DexterF> jordan_: but works in between? what card/driver?
[11:19] <jordan_> dont laugh
[11:19] <jordan_> geforce mx42o
[11:19] <jordan_> i know an upgrade is needed
[11:20] <jordan_> it could be hours or minutes
[11:20] <DexterF> jordan_: I use a radeon 7200 in my video machine...
[11:20] <jordan_> nice
[11:20] <JoshOvki> better than my last card
[11:20] <DexterF> hmm, does it only occur on specific apps?
[11:20] <jordan_> firefox is the main culpret
[11:20] <DexterF> like runnign 3d? do you use the closed src nv driver?
[11:20] <DexterF> firefox. fancy extensions?
[11:21] <jordan_> i have the nvidia legend binary and restriced driver from nvidia and no ff ext
[11:21] <_noname> DexterF: is there a possibility to boot some kind of recovery cd and put all sda1 contents to ex-sda3 partition since i havent got any other disk to store the data on
[11:21] <JoshOvki> _noname: you could try backtrack2
[11:22]  * rlount looks at backtrack2
[11:22] <DexterF> _noname: almost any live cd comes with dd or dd_rescue, that copied byte by byte. but the target partition needs to be the same size.
[11:22] <_noname> JoshOvki: any url?
[11:22] <JoshOvki> http://www.remote-exploit.org/backtrack.html
[11:22] <DexterF> you could then install win in sda1 again, put SP and PM on top and see what you can harvest from sd3
[11:23] <JoshOvki> has some recovery software too
[11:23] <rlount> heh, I was thinking the ubuntu live cd.
[11:23] <JoshOvki> not sure how well it works tho
[11:23] <rlount> right.
[11:24] <_noname> DexterF: the same size as what?
[11:24] <rlount> DexterF, is right in that remembering the orig partition size(s) will be essential.
[11:25] <JoshOvki> is it possible to install madwifi and get it working without restarting?
[11:25] <rlount> maybe by restarting just networking.
[11:25] <_noname> rlount: you mean the exact size? in megabytes, bytes?
[11:25] <DexterF> _noname: same size as the original sda1. unless you have dd put the data in a file
[11:25] <DexterF> sectors
[11:26] <DexterF> cylinders will probably do, too
[11:26] <_noname> DexterF: i don't know if kubuntu comes with dd
[11:26] <rlount> _noname, DexterF is talking what you need.
[11:26] <jordan_> just read it could be to over heating?? but t cant be that surely i can play cs:S for absolute hours with no problems
[11:26] <_noname> rlount: yes i see
[11:26] <jordan_> at highest allowed settings with wine
[11:27] <rlount> anyone have an kubuntu cd to run apt-package --list against?
[11:27] <DexterF> jordan_: doesn't look like. more as if FF pulls some weird X function call which it chokes on and dies. unlikely for FF but not impossible.
[11:27] <jordan_> yer but it is others
[11:27] <_noname> there's also a tool called active partition recovery, I wonder if it could help
[11:27] <jordan_> i could be on konquerer
[11:27] <jordan_> even konversation
[11:27] <jordan_> amarok
[11:28] <DexterF> jordan_: low on RAM/swap?
[11:29] <jordan_> 512 ram 1gig swap
[11:29] <DexterF> hmm.
[11:29] <DexterF> gutsy, you said?
[11:29] <rlount> _noname, there is a chance that if it was built w/ lvm (which I think is default), you could boot an ubuntu/kubuntu live cd, install the lvm-tools and see whats up with the drive. the lvm data might be intact... i wonder if that would be possible.
[11:29] <jordan_> yup
[11:29] <DexterF> jordan_: compiz?
[11:29] <jordan_> no
[11:29] <jordan_> no special 3ds
[11:29] <jordan_> 1 desktop
[11:30] <DexterF> odd. paste the Xorg.0.log somewhere.
[11:30] <jordan_> whers that located
[11:31]  * rlount goes back to pkcs12
[11:34] <DexterF> jordan_: /var/log
[11:34] <_noname> rlount:   lvm-tools? is that the exact package name?
[11:34] <jordan_> xorg.0.log @ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62222/
[11:37] <DexterF> jordan_: looks fine, no critical errors or such. which should mean that X doesn't die because of an erro in X itself but someone else kills it or it runs out of memory. I suggest you open a terminal and run watch -n1 free and start usign your computer like you usually would. if RAM usage goes up drastically, some app has a mem leak. which would fit the symptom. try and figure which on eit is.
[11:37] <jordan_> kk
[11:37] <jordan_> but how will i see it if the mem leak spikes and x dies
[11:37] <rlount> _noname, one sec
[11:38] <jordan_> 507712     497404      10308
[11:38] <jordan_> total used free
[11:38] <jordan_>  that norm?
[11:38] <DexterF> jordan_: you need to monitor it. look at the terminal every now and then. when mem usage goes up, run top and have it sort by mem usage. that will tell. oh, even better indicator: resources applet in kicker
[11:39] <DexterF> in german its KDE-Systemüberwachung, dunno what it is in engl or nl
[11:39] <jordan_> ksysguard??
[11:40] <rlount> _noname, no, not the pkg name. one sec.
[11:40]  * rlount digs through tomboy
[11:40] <jordan_> but whys there so much ram being cached in the first place
[11:40] <DexterF> jordan_: linux always uses as much ram as possible: "ram unused is ram wasted" so all ram that isn't needed for apps is used for buffers. the interesting line is one below, the entry "- buffers", that shows how much ram the apps are using. oh, and use free -m, that shows megabytes
[11:41] <jordan_> oh ok
[11:41] <jordan_> makes sense
[11:41] <DexterF> yup
[11:42] <jordan_> 158344 used 34938 free
[11:42] <jordan_> oops 349400 free
[11:42] <DexterF> in kde...?
[11:43] <jordan_> yup
[11:43] <DexterF> darn low mem usage for kde...
[11:43] <_noname> DexterF: the stellar seems to be good but it's commercial so what i can do is to download a demo
[11:43] <DexterF> _noname: well you'll have to buy it. or.. ahem... well.
[11:44] <_noname> lol
[11:45] <_noname> i can't even dl it since i am on livecd... unless i can boot it from usb stick?
[11:46] <rlount> _noname, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/rescue-an-encrypted-luks-lvm-volume.html  The instructions are for crypto/lvm, just ignore the crypto. it does work btw, I made it past the passwd part and was able to salvage some data before the drive totally gave up.
[11:46] <_noname> i mean i can't burn the iso image since i have livecd in my cd drive
[11:46] <rlount> _noname, how much memory in your machine?
[11:46] <DexterF> _noname: nah, you need a running windows. I think I saw a BartPE with Stellar preinstalled, but I really can't remember where. but seriously, for data recovery I'd use a fresh machine with plety of backup space. ask a freind or so.
[11:48] <_noname> rlount: 1 gig of ram
[11:48] <jordan_> no pikes with flash
[11:48] <jordan_> spikes*
[11:49] <rlount> _noname, heh, you might load the live cd 'toram' and get away with burning another.
[11:49] <DexterF> jordan_: chances are it first occurs after a while. mem leaks can be tricky.
[11:49]  * rlount shrugs and thinks millage may vary
[11:49] <_noname> rl i don't even know how can i load it into ram?
[11:49] <jordan_> although the flash is laggy
[11:50] <jordan_> its actually got the freed ram upto 40meg from 10meg
[11:50] <jordan_> buffers doubled
[11:50] <rlount> _noname, then have a friend burn one for you?
[11:50] <jordan_> and cache halved
[11:50] <jordan_> ut whats the laggy effect of flash about?
[11:51] <rlount> _noname, google livecd toram? ;)
[11:51]  * rlount looks and thinks maybe w/ out the question mark.
[11:52] <SpeS> hi, can anyone help me with the configuration of a Maudio Delta66 please?? I know it works on win and I can see the modules in the kernel, and can see the signal in envy24control, but can't hear a sound from it in my Kubuntu...
[11:53] <rlount> _noname, seriously, you need to have some disk to put the data on, then some form of live media w/ tools on it to perform recovery, and a way to read instructions while you do it.
[11:53] <rlount> map that out and proceed.
[11:55] <_noname> rlount: ok i'll try thanks... but i am afraid i have only 20gb hdd and some dvd's ... well maybe it will do
[12:04] <Nyad> hey does anyone know of a linux program which is similar to  Realtek HD sound effect manager
[12:05] <Nyad> which was a windows program
[12:06] <algyz> Nyad:  try apt-cache search sound effects, you'll find something, I hope.
[12:13] <SpeS> anyone knows where is alsaconf in kubuntu or the equivalent????
[12:23] <emilsedgh> SpeS: i dont know what youre exactly looking for but there are some things in System Settings->Sound i think
[12:33] <SpeS> emilsedgh, I've seen that, seems to be ok
[12:33] <SpeS> the problem is that I can't hear a sound from the card, but everything seems to be ok
[12:33] <SpeS> the kernel modules, the routing...
[12:33] <SpeS> I can even see the signal with envy24control
[12:35] <davismi78> hi, im new to linux and i want to know if there is a way to make it make a sound to see how loud the volume is without having to play a video
[12:37] <richard> hi all i have installed the ati restricted driver and now i am getting loads of graphic sprites any help?
[12:37] <_ZeuZ_> Guys; what kernel does 8.04 run? has it got any problems with the bcm43xx (now b43) modules and firmware?
[12:39] <_ZeuZ_> !kernel 8.04
[12:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kernel 8.04 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:39] <_ZeuZ_> ...
[12:39] <richard> !ati
[12:39] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:39] <_ZeuZ_> richard: why not using the auto restricted modules installer?
[12:40] <richard> i have used that but now kde desktop is all messed up
[12:40] <_ZeuZ_> lol
[12:40] <_ZeuZ_> you sure it's related to drivers?
[12:41] <_ZeuZ_> what was the last thing you did before it got messed up¿
[12:41] <richard> well i towkrs fine in XP and fine untill i install the restriced drivers
[12:41] <_ZeuZ_> that doesn't help much... what do you mean by towkrs ?
[12:42] <richard> it works
[12:42] <_ZeuZ_> you're using KDE on XP also? For that, the Restricted modules and drivers have no relation.
[12:43] <Nyad> does ssh use a lot of bandwidth?
[12:46] <_ZeuZ_> Nyad: no
[12:46] <_ZeuZ_> Nyad: Minimum consume against other RA protocol
[12:47] <_ZeuZ_> Nyad: Minimum consume against other RA protocols*
[12:48] <LegolasV> Why is it that NetworkManager is running and works as it should, but when I invoke "qdbus|grep freedesktop" it doesn't list org.freedesktop.NetworkManager?
[12:49] <wizkoder> I recently found acetoneiso2 as a very nive replacement for demon toolz. I am wondering why its nor part of the official ubuntu repository. Is anybody here that could try the program and maybe include it?
[12:49] <_ZeuZ_> LegolasV: Try: ps ax | grep NetWorkManager
[12:49] <_ZeuZ_> Hmm...
[12:50] <_ZeuZ_> LegolasV: Better try networkmanager instead directly, or try both, and tell me about the output
[12:50] <LegolasV> _ZeuZ_: I did: root      5452  0.1  1.9  48412 20376 ?        Ssl  08:58   0:18 /usr/sbin/NetworkManager --pid-file /var/run/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.pid
[12:50] <_ZeuZ_> that was the only output?
[12:50] <LegolasV> _ZeuZ_: I can connect etc to wireless networks using Knetworkmanager
[12:51] <Nyad> how do I tell the packagers for kubuntu to add the new Pygame 1.8 to their repositories?
[12:51] <LegolasV> _ZeuZ_: no, also a line about NetworkManagerDispatcher
[12:51] <_ZeuZ_> LegaolasV: What *ubuntu version are you using? I actually use Debian SID, but since *Ubuntu is based upon it, I'll try to help...
[12:52] <_ZeuZ_> Also, what Wireless Card?
[12:52] <LegolasV> _ZeuZ_: hardy, kde 4
[12:52] <_ZeuZ_> mind you telling me the kernel version (uname -r) or (uname -a)
[12:53] <LegolasV> _ZeuZ_: Linux citry 2.6.24-14-generic #1 SMP Thu Apr 3 04:49:29 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[12:53] <LegolasV> _ZeuZ_: probably a dbus problem, happend with Hal too
[12:53] <LegolasV> _ZeuZ_: qdbus does list all the kde services though
[12:54] <_ZeuZ_> neh, well, I wouldn't rely on that to test... what does iwconfig say? (as root, obviously ;))
[12:59] <LegolasV> _ZeuZ_: yep, mentions my wireless card being connected to the wlan here
[13:00] <Nyad> how do I tell the packagers for kubuntu to add the new Pygame 1.8 to their repositories?
[13:00] <LegolasV> _ZeuZ_: btw, ubuntu doesn't need root for iwconfig / ifconfig
[13:01] <SlimeyPete> Nyad: if it's not in the hardy repositories, you can raise a bug on launchpad but I think the hardy repos are more or less frozen now
[13:01] <Nyad> frozen? meaning....
[13:01] <SlimeyPete> meaning they won't add stuff. I could be wrong though.
[13:15] <Nyad> if a friend has given me ssh access to his pc, ie he gave me his username and password etc. How does he stop me from being able to get in?
[13:15] <CheGuevara> change his password
[13:15] <CheGuevara> disable ssh
[13:15] <CheGuevara> block ur ip
[13:16] <ere4si> Nyad: use iptables to block you're ip address
[13:20] <Nyad> with ssh I don't have admin rights hey?
[13:20] <CheGuevara> depends what the account is
[13:20] <CheGuevara> if you can sudo from it
[13:27] <KalEl> does ktorrent show the availability anywhere?
[13:27] <Jucato> availability of?
[13:27] <KalEl> meaning if a torrent has only 90% of the chunks available from the peers i've connected, 90% is the availability
[14:07] <ere4si> this might not be the night for it!
[14:07] <KalEl> why are so many people joining and unjoining?
[14:07] <SlimeyPete> server trouble.
[14:07] <Hamra> what's going on? joining and leaving?
[14:07] <Jucato> !nesplit | KalEl
[14:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nesplit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:07] <Jucato> er..
[14:07] <Jucato> !netsplit | KalEl
[14:07] <ubotu> KalEl: netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[14:08] <KalEl> oh ok thanks
[14:08] <ere4si> bye
[14:08] <Jucato> or... we're secretly going to an IRC meeting and you're not invited :)
[14:08] <KalEl> :)
[14:09] <KalEl> i was worried somebody might be controlling lots of zombies in this net
[14:09] <Hamra> so is this server split done on purpose for something like maintenance, or some error happening?
[14:09] <SlimeyPete> erk... don't IRC as root!
[14:14] <kblin> hi folks
[14:23] <nosrednaekim> hey kblin
[14:27] <Hamra> is there some good pdf viewer other than kpdf? and other than acrobat, something not restricted?
[14:28] <Jucato> xpdf, evince (GNOME)
[14:28] <DexterF> !compiz
[14:28] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[14:28] <Jucato> try searching in Adept Manager or Add/Remove Programs or using apt-cache search
[14:28] <kblin> is there a nice gui for managing XEN?
[14:29] <kblin> or a curses based TUI, for that matter
[14:29] <Jucato> kblin: you can try searching in kde-apps.org or qt-apps.org
[14:42]  * Hamra is going somewhere
[14:44]  * Hamra came back from whatever he was doing
[15:07] <subspider> can someone tell me how to run a .sh file
[15:07] <subspider> ??
[15:08] <subspider> i have these file "netbeans-6.0.1-ml-linux.sh"
[15:08] <azuki> how can I unmount a multiple mounted drive?
[15:09] <eagles0513875> i miss kubuntu
[15:10] <subspider> i have these file "netbeans-6.0.1-ml-linux.sh"
[15:10] <BluesKaj> subspider, in the konsole cd to the directory where the file is located, then ./filename.sh
[15:10] <subspider> thanks
[15:12] <BluesKaj> subspider, it usually works
 there is nobody on #yourdistro :( </noob>
[15:12] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: i miss kubuntu
[15:12] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, then install kubuntu-desktop :)
[15:13] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: i do with the alternate cd of hardy and it hangs on loading hardware devices and with gutsy i get a nasty pnp bios bug which doesnt let me run x
[15:13] <subspider> i think it's working
[15:13] <Jucato> azuki: you really went there? O.o
[15:13] <Jucato> azuki: if you can see your drive in media:/ maybe you can right-click on it and select Unmount?
[15:14] <azuki> Jucato: nope..
[15:14] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: unless u can really help me get those problems resolved im stickign with open suse which is the only one that works on here not even centos works on here only reason im guessing is that my hardware is too new
[15:14] <azuki> jucato: neither of them work, (unable to mount), and using umount in terminalt says: "seems to be mounter multiple times"
[15:14] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, whay are you using the alternate cd ?
[15:14] <azuki> only option now seems reboot.. :/
[15:14] <Jucato> uh oh...
[15:15] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: hardy beta hangs when trying to load my partitions and goes nowhere
[15:15] <eagles0513875> at least with the alternate cd i can get it installed
[15:15] <BluesKaj> how old is your HW ?
[15:15] <eagles0513875> bought this laptop back in december
[15:15] <eagles0513875> so its rather new
[15:15] <azuki> Jucato: oh.. and there is only ONE in the /media folder.. but twice on the desktop ...
[15:15] <eagles0513875> turion x2 processor with nvidia go 6150 chipset and video card
[15:16] <Jucato> azuki: I didn't say /media.. but media:/
[15:16] <BluesKaj> I'll bet it came with Vista installed eh eagles0513875 ?
[15:16] <Jucato> azuki: I'm not sure I can help though.. not very good at mounting :/
[15:16] <eagles0513875> ya it did blues
[15:16] <azuki> Jucato: neither am I :)
[15:17] <eagles0513875> i cant wait till next thursday ill have my old big a88 laptop i can put kubuntu on that one
[15:17] <eagles0513875> thinking of hosting my website off of there
[15:17] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, did you totally wipe the HD ,or did you partition it for dual boot ?
[15:18] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: totally whiped
[15:18] <azuki> what is media:/ ?
[15:19] <BluesKaj> ahh eagles0513875, the drivers are gone , so kubuntu couldn't see them when trying to install itself
[15:20] <Jucato> azuki: in Konquero, type in media:/
[15:20] <TheGateKeeper> so when 8.04 going to be released?
[15:21] <BluesKaj> april 24
[15:21] <BluesKaj> AFAIK
[15:21] <TheGateKeeper> ok thanks
[15:21] <BluesKaj> !release date
[15:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about release date - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:21] <eagles0513875> im confued blues what u mean drivers totally gone
[15:22] <BluesKaj> !Hardy
[15:22] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[15:23] <SpeS> hi, anyone knows where is alsaconf in kubuntu or the equivalent???? I can't make a Maudio delta66 to emit any sound...
[15:23] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, sometimes if there is another OS , linux will see the drivers and setup the HAL accordingly , otherwise with brand new HW there's no way it can tell what it is.
[15:24] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: so i have to duel boot
[15:24] <BluesKaj> some ppl dispute this claim , but I read about it somewhere
[15:24] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj:  or what ur saying is deal with winblows vista
[15:25] <BluesKaj> not necessarily , maybe launchpad has a workaround for your HW
[15:25] <eagles0513875> i posted 2 bugs on there bout it locking up during boot as well as when reading partitions on normal cd
[15:27] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, have you tried a regular kubuntu cd , no special alternate installs etc , just the generic one
[15:27] <eagles0513875> yes
[15:27] <eagles0513875> not duel boot
[15:27] <eagles0513875> it would be nice if i could honestly get rid of vista
[15:28] <eagles0513875> the way things r looking its highly unlikley
[15:28] <BluesKaj> you still have it ?
[15:28] <eagles0513875> still have what vista
[15:28] <eagles0513875> ya im on open suse atm cuz its the onlyone that seems to work
[15:28] <BluesKaj> yes
[15:28] <eagles0513875> i have to use hardy cuz gutsy duel boot or not i have a pnp bios bug
[15:29] <eagles0513875> ya i have normal install cd of kubuntu
[15:29] <BluesKaj> pnp bios bug, hmm sorry , can't help you there
[15:30] <SpeS> hi, sorry, my system crashed :S
[15:30] <SpeS> any idea about alsaconf or how to make a delta66 work in Kubuntu?
[15:30] <eagles0513875> thats y i have to use hardy cuz it seems like its been fixed
[15:32] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: u think my hardware is just too new
[15:33] <BluesKaj> dunno , could be
[15:33] <eagles0513875> this blows
[15:33] <eagles0513875> lol im sry to say
[15:33] <eagles0513875> im looking forward to getting my old machine back use it as my r&d machine to start developing a cluster distro based on kubuntu
[15:38] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: could i install kubuntu onto an external 80gb hard drive with usb and run kubuntu that way
[15:39] <lkasdaf> Hi. I installed my nvidia drivers by going to init 1. how do I remove them?
[15:40] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, it would still be using the same Mobo and RAM etc , the only thing different would be the HDD
[15:40] <eagles0513875> would i still need vista
[15:42] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, dunno for sure
[15:43] <eagles0513875> i would give anything ot get rid of it
[15:43] <eagles0513875> would the latest kernel release contain the drivers that r needed for an install
[15:44] <lkasdaf> How do I uninstall my nvidia drivers? I didn't use the restricted driver manager. I just installed them manually with the Nvidia binary
[15:44] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, I would go to #kubuntu+1 and ask there
[15:44] <eagles0513875> ok
[15:45] <Jucato> eagles0513875: #ubuntu+1 actually
[15:45] <eagles0513875> was bout to say nobody is in there
[15:46] <lkasdaf> How do I uninstall my nvidia drivers? I didn't use the restricted driver manager. I just installed them manually with the Nvidia binary
[15:46] <eagles0513875> rooms dead in there blues
[15:51] <eagles0513875> nobody answered my question
[15:51] <eagles0513875> im goign to reboot with kernel updates and what not on here
[15:51] <BluesKaj> lkasdaf, what kind of file extension is the manually installed driver?
[15:52] <lkasdaf> .run
[15:52] <lkasdaf> I did.  sudo init 1      sudo sh  file.run        init 5        startx        But how do I remove it?
[15:54] <BluesKaj> lkasdaf, cd to the dir then sudo dpkg -r driverfilename
[15:55] <lkasdaf> ok that sounds right, but where would the dir be?
[15:58] <BluesKaj> lkasdaf, wherever the original DL is , prolly, /home/yourusername
[15:58] <lkasdaf> ok thanks
[16:04] <Jd0gg> trying to install kubuntu (7.10) on a hard drive that requires Ontrack disk manager (Dynamic Disk Overlay) to recognize all or the space on the drive, i've got the computer booted up into the kubuntu installation screen however kubuntu is not reporting the proper partition table
[16:04] <Jd0gg> all of the space*
[16:05] <Jd0gg> and i've made sure that the DDO software is loading before kubuntu loads up, and i also have insured that no other hard drives are hooked up but the one i am focused on installing kubuntu on... any ideas?
[16:29] <esophagus> anyone know how to get scim working across all apps? works in kopete and konqueror, amarok, etc. but not in kate, openoffice, koffice
[16:29] <cannon> hey guys, whats a good ftp proggie for kubuntu ... that has a gui?
[16:31] <llutz> krusader/konqueror
[16:31] <cannon> konqueror does ftp?
[16:32] <llutz> sure and several other protocols too
[16:32] <esophagus> damn scim
[16:33] <esophagus> if anyone can advise on getting scim with CJK input working in openoffice without scim-bridge, let me know (it did nothing)
[16:35] <Mr_Sonoma> any one got a suggestion on a cups/windows problem? I can see my printer on my linux box with my wifes windows laptop, I have added the printer into her laptop (installed driver) and obviously since i can browse my kubuntu machine SAMBA is working.....but what i dont get is why when i send the test print it shows as sent on windows, and shows in the jobs page of the cups interface but never actually prints out of the printer....suggestions
[16:35] <Mr_Sonoma>  on what i've missed?
[16:41] <KalEl> hi, how can i remove all kde3 applications and automatically install all kde4 versions?
[16:42] <neville_> KalEl you sound crazy
[16:43] <toyo|desk> hey guys and gals, quick question...are the repos for kubuntu and ubuntu the same?
[16:43] <KalEl> toyo|desk, yeah it's the same.
[16:43] <toyo|desk> oh ok
[16:43] <toyo|desk> cool
[16:44] <BluesKaj> Mr_Sonoma, I have to ask the obvious ... did you give your linuxbox print permissions on the the wife's windows firewall ?
[16:44] <toyo|desk> so if I have kubuntu 7.10 I should have all the same kinda package selection as if I had ubuntu 7.10
[16:44] <KalEl> neville_ i am
[16:45] <eduard510> hi..how can i  give a IP static channel to use samba?
[16:45] <BluesKaj> eduard510, the IP is staic on home networks
[16:45] <BluesKaj> static
[16:46] <BluesKaj> each pc or device has a given static IP within the network
[16:47] <llutz> BluesKaj: most guys use dhcp now, no stativ ips anymore
[16:47] <llutz> static
[16:47] <toyo|desk> unless its a static entry in the dhcp server and thats entirely different
[16:47] <toyo|desk> :P
[16:48] <drbobb> no it's not really different at all
[16:48] <toyo|desk> drbobb, the config is
[16:48] <toyo|desk> :P
[16:48] <drbobb> but the functionality isn't
[16:48] <toyo|desk> well no
[16:49] <drbobb> once the host is up and the network is running
[16:49] <drbobb> it makes no difference where its config data came from
[16:49] <toyo|desk> true
[16:50] <drbobb> you could as well be manually calling ifconfig and route after every boot, assuming you have nothing better to do with your time
[16:56] <sparr_> I am trying to use my pc with my hdtv.  I can get 1024x768 ad 1280x768 to work, but not 136*x768 (tried 1360, 1366, etc).  Any advice?
[17:00] <toyo|desk> what tv is it sparr_ and what kind of input are you using, depending on the tv it may only accept certain resolutions depending on the input you use
[17:00] <esophagus> anyone had success getting scim working under linux?
[17:00] <sparr_> phillips 32pf5320/28, vga
[17:00] <esophagus> er, that was stupid
[17:01] <esophagus> getting scim working under openoffice/firefox, etc. under kde
[17:03] <toyo|desk> sparr_, Supported Display Resolution
[17:03] <toyo|desk> Sound
[17:03] <toyo|desk> •Sound Enhancement: Dynamic Bass Enhancement, Auto Volume Leveller
[17:03] <toyo|desk> •Sound System: Stereo, Virtual Dolby Surround, SAP
[17:03] <toyo|desk> •Output power (RMS): 2 x 15 W RMS
[17:03] <toyo|desk> •Equalizer: 5-bands
[17:03] <toyo|desk> Convenience
[17:03] <toyo|desk> •Ease of Installation: Auto Program Naming, Autostore, Fine Tuning
[17:03] <toyo|desk> •Ease of Use: Graphical User Interface, Program List, Side Control, AutoSound, AutoPicture, 8 channel smart surf list
[17:03] <larynxeater> anyone good with scim voodoo?
[17:03] <toyo|desk> •Remote control type: RCFN05SPS00
[17:03] <toyo|desk> •Picture in Picture: Picture in graphics
[17:03] <toyo|desk> •Remote Control: Amp, DVD, TV, Multi-functional
[17:03] <toyo|desk> •Screen Format Adjustments: 4:3, Movie expand 14:9, Movie expand 16:9, Subtitle Zoom, Super Zoom, Widescreen
[17:03] <toyo|desk> •Clock: Sleep Timer, Wake up Clock
[17:03] <toyo|desk> •VESA Mount: 200 x 100 mm
[17:03] <toyo|desk> •Convenience Enhancements: Closed Captioning (analog), Vchip and parental lock
[17:03] <toyo|desk> •On-Screen Display languages: Portuguese, Canadian French, English, Spanish
[17:03] <toyo|desk> Tuner/Reception/Transmission
[17:03] <toyo|desk> •Tuner bands: Hyperband, S-Channel, UHF, VHF
[17:03] <toyo|desk> •TV system: NTSC, PAL N, PAL M
[17:03] <toyo|desk> •Video Playback: NTSC, PAL, PAL B/G
[17:03] <cached> why is kubuntu a cd while ubuntu is a dvd?
[17:03] <toyo|desk> •Aerial Input: 75 ohm coaxial (IEC75)
[17:03] <toyo|desk> •Tuner Display: PLL
[17:03] <toyo|desk> •Number of Preset Channels: 125
[17:03] <toyo|desk> Connectivity
[17:03] <toyo|desk> •Number of AV connections: 5
[17:03] <toyo|desk> •Other connections: Antenna IEC75, Monitor out L/R (Cinch)
[17:03] <toyo|desk> •AV 1: YPbPr (2fh), Audio L/R in
[17:03] <toyo|desk> •AV 2: CVBS, S-Video, Audio L/R in
[17:03] <toyo|desk> •AV 3: VGA PC-in, YPbPr (2Fh), Audio L/R in
[17:03] <toyo|desk> •Front / Side connections: CVBS in, Headphone out, S-video in, Audio L/R in
[17:04] <toyo|desk> •AV 4: HDMI
[17:04] <cached> toyo|desk: ever heard of a pastebin?
[17:04] <toyo|desk> Power
[17:04] <toyo|desk> •Power consumption: 120 W Normal Operation W
[17:04] <toyo|desk> •Standby power consumption: 1 W <
[17:04] <toyo|desk> •Ambient temperature: 5 °C to 40 °C
[17:04] <toyo|desk> •Mains power: 100-250V, 50-60Hz
[17:04] <toyo|desk> Dimensions
[17:04] <toyo|desk> •Product weight: 18.9 kg
[17:04] <toyo|desk> •Product weight (lb): 40
[17:04] <toyo|desk> •Weight incl. Packaging: 22.6 kg
[17:04] <toyo|desk> •Dimensions (with base) (W x H x D): 924 x 550 x 222 mm
[17:04] <toyo|desk> •Color cabinet: Silver Frost & Black Deco Front
[17:04] <Mr_Sonoma> BluesKaj, I'll check that.....
[17:04] <toyo|desk> •Set dimensions (W x H x D): 924 x 511 x 118 mm
[17:04] <toyo|desk> •Box dimensions (W x H x D): 1000 x 690 x 240 mm
[17:04] <toyo|desk> Accessories
[17:04] <toyo|desk> •Included Accessories: Power cord, Quick start guide, Registration card, Remote Control, User Manual, Table top stand, VGA to YPbPr-Cinch cable, Batteries for remote control
[17:04] <toyo|desk> Loudspeakers
[17:04] <toyo|desk> •Built-in
[17:04] <toyo|desk> ak
[17:04] <cached> how long has toyo|desk been spamming?
[17:04] <toyo|desk> ....
[17:04] <PhilRod_> need an op
[17:04] <toyo|desk> cached, yeah no kidding
[17:04] <toyo|desk> cached, it didnt paste the 1 line I had selected
[17:04] <cached> ah
[17:05] <toyo|desk> anyway....
[17:05] <toyo|desk> sparr_, http://pastebin.com/m574a3291
[17:05] <PeterFA> Oh, Kubuntu is so much nicer than Arch.
[17:06] <toyo|desk> that is supposedly the only resolutions supported by the vga in
[17:06] <Odd-rationale> PeterFA: really. I was thinking about switching back to arch+kdemod...
[17:06] <cached> is there a good reason kubuntu is a cd and ubuntu is a dvd
[17:06] <toyo|desk> sorry for the huge spam everyone
[17:06] <toyo|desk> :/
[17:06] <Odd-rationale> cached: they are both on cd's
[17:07] <cached> Odd-rationale: really?
[17:07] <sparr_> toyo|desk: since ive already established that that document is incorrect, i have no problem continuing along that line
[17:07] <Odd-rationale> yes. but you can gt either one on a dvd too
[17:07] <Odd-rationale> *get
[17:08] <cached> Odd-rationale: heh i must have mixed up ubuntu with fedora or centos
[17:08] <PeterFA> Odd-rationale, why?
[17:08] <toyo|desk> sparr_, alright...but usually when a manufacturer says that they only support X modes it means thats what is officially supported, it MAY do more but they are not supported
[17:08] <KalEl> ktorrent taking up a lot of CPU time - will it be any better with ktorrent-kde4?
[17:08] <Odd-rationale> cached: yes. fedora is just beginning to start using just one cd
[17:08] <sparr_> toyo|desk: hence my asking on IRC, instead of asking the manufacturer
[17:08] <Odd-rationale> PeterFA: I dunno :)
[17:09] <PeterFA> Odd-rationale, Arch is neither put together nor easily configured and put together. So much work just to install even from source packages.
[17:09] <toyo|desk> all I am saying is you are already using it past its designed specs
[17:09] <PeterFA> I got into Arch and hated every minute of it.
[17:09] <PeterFA> Switched to Kubuntu which was a breeze and had fun.
[17:09] <PeterFA> Got KDE4 installed too.
[17:10] <Odd-rationale> PeterFA: I liked the kiss principle of arch and the control I had. But kubuntu is great too. Just can't decide which I want...
[17:11] <PeterFA> Kubuntu is less work and less guesswork. It makes sense and doesn't have you have to know stuff.
[17:11] <Odd-rationale> PeterFA: One thing that is keeping me from switching back to arch is that kubuntu and arch booted at about the same time. which is rather strange since arch is "supposed" to fast
[17:12] <PeterFA> Odd-rationale, one thing I found odd is that it ran faster than Gentoo, both Arch and Kubuntu. I guess I just didn't configure my Gentoo system correctly.
[17:13] <KalEl> i want to install kubuntu. can i / shall i install kde4 or kde3?
[17:13] <Odd-rationale> Also I like that I can use kubuntu *and* reccomend it to anyone. Couldn't do that with Arch.
[17:13] <Odd-rationale> KalEl: Your choice. I would choose kde3 though
[17:13] <toyo|desk> sparr_, it may end up being that you have to use hdmi to achieve the res that you want
[17:13] <toyo|desk> eg it wont happen over vga
[17:13] <KalEl> ok thanks
[17:14] <PeterFA> KalEl, you can install both.
[17:14] <KalEl> both will eat up space isn't it? or how much incremental space do i need to install kde4 over kde3?
[17:14] <PeterFA> KalEl, no idea.
[17:15] <KalEl> oh ok
[17:15] <PeterFA> KalEl, are you thinking about installing when you have a limited space?
[17:15] <PeterFA> KalEl, My download was 800 megs.
[17:15] <PeterFA> KalEl, that's what I remember seeing.
[17:15] <KalEl> i am currently using ubuntu with an 8gb partition - i think about 4gb is free, i'll install kde3 over it
[17:15] <PeterFA> KalEl, you can add KDE4 for install and see what it takes.
[17:16] <KalEl> ok
[17:16] <PeterFA> KalEl, add another hardrive and mount it as / and move all the files over there.
[17:16] <KalEl> ok thanks
[17:16] <KalEl> bbial
[17:20] <richard> a\ny one able to help with a wine problem?
[17:21] <toyo|desk> yes
[17:21] <toyo|desk> let me get a glass
[17:21] <toyo|desk> :)
[17:22] <richard> toyo|desk:  basicall i installed wine then tried to install steam steam installs ok but crashes when it loads i traced this back to gecko
[17:22] <richard> when i run gecko i get this error Unhandled exception: page fault on write access to 0x00000024 in 32-bit code (0x01056cde).
[17:22] <Ashex> how does one manually remove a saved session?
[17:24] <toyo|desk> hmm richard I have never attempted to install steam on wine
[17:25] <Ashex> steam will run in wine just fine
[17:25] <Ashex> just make sure you've setup dx9 in wine beforehand
[17:25] <Ashex> otherwise it's useless
[17:25] <toyo|desk> To be able to use steam with wine you need to Install the tahoma.ttf font. Additionally, you must download and Install the Mozilla ActiveX control
[17:25] <toyo|desk> thats off the fedora howto
[17:26] <Ashex> yup
[17:26] <toyo|desk> that may be your gecko issue
[17:26] <Ashex> you don't really need gecko for it
[17:26] <Ashex> if all you're doing is playing games, it isn't really needed
[17:26] <cached> last time i had ubuntu installed, all i had to do to get vpn working was type "sudo vpnc"
[17:26] <Ashex> just won't see anything on the main screen
[17:27] <cached> now it's asking me for the IPSec gateway address... what do i say?
[17:28] <JONY> PERUVIAN
[17:33] <root> ayuda para español
[17:34] <llutz> !es | root don't irc as root
[17:34] <ubotu> root don't irc as root: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[17:39] <gean> hi all! got a fresh 549 EURO cheapest i could get, not it screams to get a new OS. It is a compaq c745EG, Intel® Pentium® Dual-Core-Prozessor T2330 1,60 GHz, which kubuntu installed should i download? gimme a hint please..
[17:41] <PhilRod_> gean: depends more on what you want to do than on your hardware. Just grab the latest stable version (gutsy, I think)
[17:41] <gean> for a dual core processor i need the 64-install version?
[17:41] <llutz> gean: no you don't
[17:43] <gean> philrod_ , llutz : ok, thanks, the i386 kubuntu desktop 7.10 is ok... i already have it, it works perfectly on the 4GB asus eee already!
[17:43] <PhilRod_> cool
[17:43] <SlimeyPete> gean: the 32-bit version will also work fine
[17:50] <PeterFA> I just installed Kubuntu and I have no sound.
[17:53] <Odd-rationale> PeterFA: Hmm. Did you have sound in arch?
[17:55] <PeterFA> Odd-rationale, yes.
[17:56] <BluesKaj> PeterFA, how did you set up your sound in arch? I'm quite sure it'll be very similar in kubuntu.
[17:56] <Odd-rationale> PeterFA: did you check your alsa-mixer already?
[17:57] <PeterFA> Odd-rationale, yeah.
[17:57] <PeterFA> Ah, wrong device.
[17:57] <Odd-rationale> PeterFA: ok :)
[17:57] <PeterFA> i have like 3 devices that can be registered as cards.
[17:59] <PeterFA> Is there an interface that let's me select which card to use by default?
[17:59] <PeterFA> Well, some easy way to make it use the right card perminately?
[18:00] <spawn57> hi, anyone having trouble with hal at times?
[18:01] <spawn57> it crashes for me whenever I plugin my sony ericsson phone to read the memory stick
[18:01] <Odd-rationale> PeterFA: kmix?
[18:02] <toyo|desk> PeterFA, you have 3 sound cards
[18:02] <toyo|desk> ?
[18:02] <PeterFA> Yeah.
[18:03] <PeterFA> toyo|desk, on on my video capture, one on my onboard, one on my added.
[18:03] <toyo|desk> PeterFA, I used /etc/asound.conf to force it to use my audigy
[18:04] <PeterFA> toyo|desk, thanks.
[18:04] <toyo|desk> pcm.!default {
[18:04] <toyo|desk>     type hw
[18:04] <toyo|desk>     card Audigy
[18:04] <toyo|desk> }
[18:04] <toyo|desk> ctl.!default {
[18:04] <toyo|desk>     type hw
[18:04] <toyo|desk>     card Audigy
[18:04] <toyo|desk> }
[18:04] <toyo|desk> that works
[18:04] <toyo|desk> :)
[18:04] <toyo|desk> forces EVERYTHING through that card
[18:04] <toyo|desk> including flash
[18:05] <toyo|desk> makes it quite nice
[18:05] <PeterFA> What's esound.conf?
[18:05] <toyo|desk> its for the enlightened sound daemon
[18:06] <toyo|desk> esound generally uses alsa
[18:06] <toyo|desk> PeterFA, cat /proc/asound/cards
[18:06] <toyo|desk> that will give you the names of your cards
[18:06] <PeterFA> toyo|desk, where do I stick my asound.conf?
[18:06] <toyo|desk> like how I put Audigy in my config
[18:06] <PeterFA> toyo|desk, I have an asound.conf already.
[18:06] <toyo|desk> yours may be different
[18:07] <toyo|desk> PeterFA, is there stuff in your asound.conf
[18:07] <PeterFA> toyo|desk, yeah, I made it myself a while ago.
[18:07] <toyo|desk> oh
[18:07] <toyo|desk> hmm
[18:08] <PeterFA> I just restarted alsa-utils
[18:08] <toyo|desk> what is it setup to do
[18:09] <PeterFA> toyo|desk, force my emu10k1 to be the default.
[18:09] <toyo|desk> oh
[18:09] <toyo|desk> heh
[18:09] <toyo|desk> ok
[18:09] <toyo|desk> well
[18:10] <toyo|desk> isnt that what you want to do?
[18:10] <PeterFA> toyo|desk, yes.
[18:10] <toyo|desk> k
[18:10] <toyo|desk> :)
[18:10] <PeterFA> toyo|desk, and it isn't being used.
[18:10] <toyo|desk> hmm
[18:10] <toyo|desk> dose it look the same as my config/
[18:10] <PeterFA> No, but it works.
[18:10] <PeterFA> I've used it before in Gentoo.
[18:11] <toyo|desk> you switched from gentoo also eh
[18:11] <toyo|desk> :P
[18:12] <mot_> anybody get mplayerplug-in working on firefox 3 yet?
[18:12] <PeterFA> toyo|desk, yes.
[18:12] <toyo|desk> heh
[18:12] <PeterFA> toyo|desk, where does asound.conf go?
[18:12] <toyo|desk> PeterFA, /etc/asound.conf
[18:15] <PeterFA> toyo|desk, ugh, it didn't work.
[18:15] <toyo|desk> PeterFA, paste bin your config and the output of cat /proc/asound/cards
[18:17] <andy_> Hello there. I'm wondering if someone could help me with small problem, that's propably relatively easy one.
[18:18] <PeterFA> http://pastebin.com/m30394edb toyo|desk
[18:18] <Odd-rationale> !ask | andy_
[18:18] <ubotu> andy_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[18:18] <PeterFA> I have four.
[18:18] <PeterFA> Sheesh.
[18:19] <andy_> At least there's someone awake. ;)
[18:20] <toyo|desk> PeterFA, try pasting http://pastebin.com/m61eb2209 that before your other config items
[18:20] <andy_> So, I'd need to grant user access to /dev/ttyUSB0, how I do it? Point is to let wvdial to use Huawei without sudo.
[18:20] <toyo|desk> then restart alsa and let me know if you get sound
[18:20] <toyo|desk> :)
[18:21] <bkn> hey all, is adept still being maintained? Anyone know where i can checkout the source code? for some reason  i can't find that info on google, and http://web.mornfall.net/adept.html appears to be out of date.
[18:21] <Odd-rationale> bkn: Yes adept is still being maintain, afaik. There are plans to port it to kde4
[18:22] <PeterFA> toyo|desk, that got it thanks.
[18:22] <spectror> hello all
[18:23] <toyo|desk> PeterFA, cool
[18:24] <bkn> Odd-rationale: thanks ... ha. y'know for some reason i completely forgot that most/all kde apps are undergoing the port to KDE4.
[18:24] <spectror> some one speak french please ? i need help for kutunbu
[18:24] <Odd-rationale> !fr | spectror
[18:24] <ubotu> spectror: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[18:24] <spectror> tank you Odd-rationale
[18:24] <Odd-rationale> spectror: no problem
[18:25] <andy_> Huawei E220 works flawlessly (this connection is thru it), but I had to use "sudo wvdial" for the connection. During boot, I think it would be quite a disturbance.
[18:27] <toyo|desk> hmm anyone know what the alsa libs source package is called
[18:27] <eddieftw> alsa-base
[18:27] <eddieftw> toyo|desk:
[18:27] <toyo|desk> eddieftw, thanks
[18:28] <you_idiot> help please. Amarok errors - xine was unable to initialise any audio drivers
[18:28] <toyo|desk> why is it not in the naming convention of everything else
[18:28] <toyo|desk> ugh
[18:28] <toyo|desk> eddieftw, hmm
[18:28] <toyo|desk> that didnt work
[18:29] <toyo|desk> its already installed
[18:29] <toyo|desk> but the app I am compiling still complains
[18:29] <Ashfire908> what's the difference in k3b between "Normal Copy" and "Clone Copy"?
[18:30] <you_idiot> no mixer can be found?
[18:30] <toyo|desk> eddieftw, http://pastebin.com/m76b27512
[18:31] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: they werent able to help me in the other channel earlier
[18:43] <BluesKaj> !alsa | toyo|desk
[18:43] <ubotu> toyo|desk: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[18:44] <toyo|desk> BluesKaj, I am compiling a program
[18:44] <toyo|desk> er attempting to
[18:44] <toyo|desk> my sound works fine
[18:44] <kqrl> nirik: i am right now on a kubuntu livecd, and mount complains about mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'
[18:44] <toyo|desk> the config script says it cant find the alsa lib sources
[18:45] <kqrl> nirik: i am right now on a kubuntu livecd, and mount complains about mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'
[18:45] <kqrl> *without nirik :P
[18:45] <dthacker> you_idiot: is your sound working on other applications?
[18:46] <dthacker> oops, he's gone
[18:46] <toyo|desk> hehe
[18:47] <toyo|desk> dthacker, do you happen to know what package provides alsa/asoundlib.h
[18:48]  * dthacker rummages in the archives......
[18:48] <toyo|desk> this is on gutsy IIRC
[18:48] <toyo|desk> lol its sad I dont remember what I have installed
[18:52] <dthacker> toyo|desk: libasound2-dev  and you can find this by doing a contents search at packages.ubuntu.com
[18:53] <toyo|desk> dthacker, is there a way to search with apt or dpkg
[18:53] <toyo|desk> for providers
[18:53] <dthacker> "Dave Sez: Bookmark it Dano"
[18:56] <dthacker> toyo|desk: my quick scan of the the apt-get man page says no.   I have not tried it with dpkg
[18:56] <toyo|desk> dthacker, alright
[18:56] <toyo|desk> thanks
[18:57] <toyo|desk> sweet
[18:57] <toyo|desk> got rid of the alsa error
[18:57] <toyo|desk> now just need jack
[18:57] <toyo|desk> :D
[19:02] <DrakeJustice> is there a freenode kubuntu-dev channel?
[19:03] <dthacker> #kubuntu-devel
[19:03] <DrakeJustice> dthacker: thx
[19:06] <Ralesk> hi all;  xine seems to be unable to output to pulse today o_O  I remember when I installed pulseaudio the other day, xine-based things (say, Amarok) worked like a charm with it
[19:26] <kuta> how to check the version of my kubuntu?
[19:32] <vhozard> anyone who knows xlink kai?
[19:32] <Level15> hi. what do you people recommend for adjusting movie subtitles in linux?
[19:33] <vhozard> ksuvtitleeditor
[19:33] <vhozard> ksubtitleeditor
[19:33] <Level15> thanks
[19:33] <vhozard> np
[19:33] <vhozard> anyone who can connect to http://www.teamxlink.co.uk/ ?
[19:35] <kevikevtmc> Hello
[19:35] <NickPresta> vhozard, I can ping it. I'm getting upwards of 120ms response time though
[19:36] <kevikevtmc> I have a question if anyone can help
[19:36] <patoe1> !xubuntu\
[19:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xubuntu\ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:37] <vhozard> NickPresta can U see the website?
[19:37] <patoe1> !xubuntu
[19:37] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels
[19:37] <kevikevtmc> I have a question about how to gain administrative access to the network settings control panel on the bet version of kubuntu
[19:38] <patoe1> whats the visual thing to make your desktops a spinning cube again, whats it called
[19:38] <patoe1> ??
[19:38] <vhozard> kevikevtmc are you using kde 4?
[19:38] <vhozard> patoe1 compiz
[19:38] <kevikevtmc> yes
[19:38] <patoe1> thanks
[19:38] <patoe1> !compiz
[19:38] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[19:38] <patoe1> thanks so much
[19:39] <vhozard> kevikevtmc do: kdesu /usr/lib/kde4/binsystemsettings (or something)
[19:39] <kevikevtmc> hmm said the command wasn't found
[19:39] <vhozard> kevikevtmc i mean: kdesu /usr/lib/kde4/bin/systemsettings
[19:40] <vhozard> kevikevtmc i dont know exactly anymore cuz i dont have kde 4 anymore
[19:41] <kevikevtmc> ok
[19:41] <kevikevtmc> it didn't work though
[19:41] <vhozard> kevikevtmc can you give me what you see in /usr/lib ?
[19:41] <kevikevtmc> The only thing in kde4 directory is 'share'
[19:41] <kevikevtmc> How do I send that to you, I'm using kopete
[19:42] <vhozard> just say what directory's you see
[19:42] <toyo|desk> is there a way to force a particular arch when you install packages with apt
[19:42] <kevikevtmc> oh
[19:42] <kevikevtmc> there are several in /usr/lib
[19:43] <vhozard> is there a directory with kde4 ?
[19:43] <kevikevtmc> yup
[19:43] <vhozard> open it and tell me what you see
[19:43] <kevikevtmc> in kde4 there is only a folder named share
[19:43] <vhozard> open it and tell me what you see
[19:43] <kevikevtmc> in there kde4
[19:44] <kevikevtmc> in kde4 there is services
[19:44] <vhozard> open that and tell me what you see
[19:44] <vhozard> ah
[19:44] <kevikevtmc> in there there a folder named search providers
[19:44] <kevikevtmc> ls
[19:44] <vhozard> WAIT ONE SEC
[19:44] <kevikevtmc> ok
[19:45] <Ralesk> there should be /usr/lib/kde4/bin if he has kde4 installed :/
[19:46] <kevikevtmc> I just installed the beta version of kubuntu 8.04
[19:46] <kevikevtmc> with kde4
[19:46] <vhozard> kevikevtmc can you do a find job and try to find "systemsettings"
[19:46] <kevikevtmc> k
[19:47] <kevikevtmc> hmm how do I do that
[19:48] <vhozard> open konqueror
[19:48] <vhozard> and go to "/"
[19:48] <kevikevtmc> yup
[19:48] <vhozard> then do Control+f
[19:48] <vhozard> and typ this: systemsettings
[19:48] <kevikevtmc> usr/bin/systemsettings
[19:49] <kevikevtmc> usr/share/apps/bin/systemsettings
[19:49] <kevikevtmc> those are the results it returned
[19:49] <vhozard> weird... hmmm.. try: kdesu systemsettings
[19:50] <kevikevtmc> ok
[19:50] <vhozard> does it work?
[19:50] <kevikevtmc> that crashed
[19:50] <kevikevtmc> all kinds of error messages
[19:51] <kevikevtmc> I tried sudo systemsettings
[19:51] <kevikevtmc> that opened it up
[19:51] <kevikevtmc> and it is allowing me to modify the settings
[19:51] <kevikevtmc> Thanks!
[19:51] <vhozard> ok, nice. good for you
[19:51] <vhozard> no problem
[19:51] <kevikevtmc> How come when I open it up from a regular user account
[19:52] <vhozard> yes....
[19:52] <kevikevtmc> and it askes for administrator privledges and I type in the password
[19:52] <kevikevtmc> it doesn't work?
[19:52] <vhozard> weird
[19:52] <vhozard> i dont know
[19:52] <vhozard> but it works now!
[19:54] <kevikevtmc> yes it does
[19:54] <kevikevtmc> Thanks a bunch
[19:55] <kevikevtmc> vhozard are you on of the official helpers on here?
[19:57] <sxenos_> Using KDE 4 with Kubuntu 8.04. My system tray is always blank. Any attempt to minimise an app to the system tray just makes it disappear. Any ideas how to recover it?
[19:58] <sxenos_> ...or does anyone know how to reset all of KDE's settings to the default short of reinstalling my OS?
[20:00] <patoe1> !compiz
[20:00] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[20:01] <patoe1> just a quick question
[20:03] <vhozard> keviktmc no
[20:04] <patoe1> if i install compiz on my computer (on KDM) then switch to xfce do i have to re install it?
[20:06] <Ralesk> xine seems to be unable to output to pulse today o_O  I remember when I installed pulseaudio the other day, xine-based things (say, Amarok) worked like a charm with it
[20:08] <Ralesk> using whatever is the newest in Hardy
[20:16] <sxenos_> FYI, I figured out my problem. Deleting plasma-appletsrc and restarting plasma fixed it.
[20:37] <DOOM_NX> hello! :)
[20:53] <KalEl> hi, what are the expected changes in kubuntu hardy?
[20:54] <KalEl> i mean in the Rock Solid KDE3 version
[20:54] <Guruuuuuuu> nick Gurugutt
[20:55] <Jucato> KalEl: there are around 5 pages that detail those changes. Try searching in http://kubuntu.org/announcements
[20:55] <KalEl> ok thanks
[20:56] <patoe1> !compiz
[20:56] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[20:57] <patoe1> wuts up everyone
[21:00] <KalEl> i already have hardy heron beta up to date. how can i get kde4?
[21:00] <Odd-rationale> !kde4
[21:00] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.3 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.3.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.3.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[21:01] <patoe1> anyone here?
[21:01] <Odd-rationale> patoe1: no
[21:01] <patoe1> that sucks
[21:01] <patoe1> i gess ill keep the million dollars i was going to give away
[21:03] <patoe1> ok i tryed to run compiz and i ran the "compiz--replace" (or w/e it was) and now it works but i dont have a top bar on any one of my windows
[21:03] <patoe1> so i cant X out minimize maximize...
[21:04] <Odd-rationale> patoe1: did you install emerald?
[21:04] <patoe1> not usre
[21:04] <patoe1> sure
[21:04] <Odd-rationale> sudo apt-get install emerald
[21:04] <patoe1> ok
[21:05] <patoe1> ok now?
[21:05] <patoe1> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[21:06] <Odd-rationale> patoe1: try "emerald --replace"
[21:06] <patoe1> ok
[21:06] <patoe1> omg thank you so much
[21:07] <Odd-rationale> patoe1: emerald is the wm for compiz. kwin is the wm for kde
[21:07] <patoe1> ok thanks
[21:07] <patoe1> im learning so much about this :p
[21:07] <patoe1> just wish i was as smart as you and doctor
[21:07] <patoe1> :p
[21:08] <patoe1> Dr. Willis
[21:08] <Odd-rationale> hey, I was were you are not too long ago.
[21:08] <Odd-rationale> patoe1: did you install ccsm?
[21:09] <Odd-rationale> !ccsm
[21:09] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[21:09] <patoe1> what do you mean?
[21:09] <patoe1> i think i have that, i have woobly windows and the cube
[21:09] <patoe1> its sweet
[21:09] <Odd-rationale> patoe1: ok :)
[21:09] <Odd-rationale> patoe1: you'll soon get tired of it though...
[21:10] <love> everytime i press shift+backspace, i only can see my wallpaper. Is there another hotkey to go back to the desktop?
[21:10] <patoe1> wait... i closed the terminal and emrald left...
[21:10] <Odd-rationale> patoe1: sorry, I meant to do it in the run dialog
[21:10] <patoe1> ok thats what i though :p
[21:11] <patoe1> thanks
[21:11] <KraYzeE> Hi all, im trying the 8 beta and getting a monitor out of range error on boot. Wubi version. im guessing i need to edit a config file, anyone know where it's located in windows?
[21:11] <Odd-rationale> love: shift+bksp? doesn't do anything for me...
[21:12] <Odd-rationale> KraYzeE: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg"
[21:12] <KraYzeE> where thuogh? i cant get to a prompt as it goes out of range on boot
[21:12] <patoe1> hey, how do i make the cube transparent cuz i have the gears but i cant see them
[21:12] <Odd-rationale> KraYzeE: try ctrl+alt+f1
[21:12] <Odd-rationale> KraYzeE: and see if you can loggin their
[21:12] <Odd-rationale> *there
[21:13] <KraYzeE> I tried that, it just refreshes the screen and goes out of range again
[21:13] <Odd-rationale> KraYzeE: ctrl+alt+f1? or you might be talking abou ctrl+alt+bksp
[21:14] <KraYzeE> you might be right,ok thanks ill give it a try
[21:14] <love> not im not talking about ctrl+alt+bksp!  If i pres shift+bksp i only can see the background of the logon screen
[21:15] <KraYzeE> Thanks Odd-rationale
[21:15] <Odd-rationale> KraYzeE: Sorry the corret command is "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[21:15] <KraYzeE> ok
[21:15] <patoe1> i want the gears rendered in the cube and i cant get the cube to be transparent.....
[21:16] <Odd-rationale> patoe1: Sorry, i was getting to you next.
[21:16] <patoe1> Odd-rationale: lol yea i was just saying it better
[21:16] <Odd-rationale> patoe1: open ccsm and go to desktop cube, in the appearence tab set the transperency while rotation to a lower value (I like 40)
[21:17] <patoe1> ok
[21:17] <Odd-rationale> love: OK I understand. But shift+bksp does nothing for me...
[21:20]  * NK is away: Lähtenyt toistaiseksi.
[21:21]  * patoe1 now loves linux more then anything
[21:21] <Odd-rationale> patoe1: even your gf?
[21:22]  * patoe1 loves linux in second place next to brittany
[21:22] <patoe1> :p
[21:23] <patoe1> hows that?
[21:23] <Odd-rationale> ;)
[21:23] <patoe1> i gess linux is second place
[21:23] <patoe1> still up there
[21:23] <Odd-rationale> patoe1: do you dual boot still?
[21:23] <patoe1> nope
[21:23] <patoe1> well
[21:24] <patoe1> i have 2 computers here in my room, and my good one, the motherboard stoped working (i built it) and its taking 2 weeks to get a new motherboard
[21:24] <patoe1> i run windows on that
[21:24] <patoe1> and linux on this one, why do you?
[21:25] <Odd-rationale> patoe1: I started off running Linux on a external usb drive, then dual boot, then windows xp in VM, now just Linux!
[21:26] <patoe1> lol this computer is all linux
[21:26] <lyhana> hi, i've some trouble updating from 7.04 to 7.10. I replace my sources.list with 7.10 repository many package install until it comes to openoffice
[21:26] <patoe1> and my good one is still in for a new motherboard, but b4 installing linux on that one im thinking i want to see more whati can do on linux
[21:28] <lyhana> even using a 'apt-get install -f' do not resolve the problem
[21:28] <Odd-rationale> lyhana: did you not upgrade the "proper" way? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades
[21:29] <lyhana> Odd-rationale: I made a "manual" update
[21:29] <Odd-rationale> lyhana: just changing the repos in the sources.list?
[21:30] <lyhana> yes
[21:30] <Odd-rationale> lyhana: hmm. I don't think that method is supported... You might be best reinstalling. :(
[21:31] <lyhana> o.O i need to save data that imply to install driver for my ethernet driver
[21:31] <ubuntu> i need some help mounting ntfs rw on live cd
[21:32] <ubuntu> i have trayed mount /dev/hda5 -t ntfs /mnt/d -o rw
[21:32] <ubuntu> dont work
[21:32] <patoe1> hey does the newest version of ubuntu come out on kubuntu and xubuntu to?
[21:32] <lyhana> ubuntu: try with ntfs-3g
[21:32] <Odd-rationale> ubuntu: try "sudo mount /dev/hda5 /mnt"
[21:33] <Odd-rationale> patoe1: yes
[21:33] <ubuntu> not installed
[21:33] <Odd-rationale> what not installed?
[21:33] <ubuntu> ntgs-3g
[21:33] <ubuntu> and i didnot find it using apt-get
[21:33] <Odd-rationale> ubuntu: did you try the command I gave?
[21:34] <patoe1> ok and my last question, i think, im runung kununtu but i installed xubuntu so im running kubuntu with xfce, is that going to make a problem when im trying to update?
[21:34] <Odd-rationale> patoe1: it shouldn't
[21:34] <patoe1> ok thanks
[21:34] <Odd-rationale> patoe1: np
[21:34] <patoe1> now im just going to hang out....cuz idk what to do now :p
[21:35] <ubuntu> Odd-rationale:
[21:35] <ubuntu> mount: /dev/hda5 already mounted or /mnt busy
[21:35] <ubuntu> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda5 is mounted on /mnt/hda5
[21:35] <ubuntu> its read only file system
[21:35] <ubuntu> cant rwite to it ?
[21:35] <Odd-rationale> ubuntu: can you right to it as root?
[21:36] <Odd-rationale> ubuntu: you're on livecd right?
[21:36] <ubuntu> i do as root
[21:36] <ubuntu> root@ubuntu:/mnt/hda5#
[21:36] <kristian_> Hi. Has anyone here made a successful integration of PulseAudio in Kubuntu Gutsy??
[21:37] <ibilic> how do I run several commands one after another from a terminal?
[21:37] <ibilic> in one shot
[21:37] <ubuntu> rm: cannot remove `pagefile.exe': Read-only file system
[21:38] <Odd-rationale> ibilic: e.g. "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[21:38] <patoe1> i know how to in windows...
[21:38] <patoe1> do BAT files work on linux
[21:38] <ibilic> thanks... what if I want to run them in parallel?
[21:38] <ubuntu> how to mount ntfs read and right
[21:38] <Odd-rationale> ubuntu: try "sudo rm /mnt/hda5/pagefile.exe"
[21:39] <ubuntu> rm: cannot remove `/mnt/hda5/pagefile.exe': Read-only file system
[21:39] <Odd-rationale> ibilic: idk.
[21:39] <ibilic> also, what if one of them is a sudo command?
[21:39] <ubuntu> ntfs!
[21:39] <Odd-rationale> ibilic: then you will need to type your passwd
[21:40] <Odd-rationale> ubuntu: I guess you can try installing ntfs-g3. you can install stuff temporority on livecd sessions
[21:40] <ibilic> yeah... but will I have to type it only at the beginning, even though only the last one requires sudo?
[21:40] <Odd-rationale> ibilic: if the first one does not require sudo and the second one does, then you will only neeed the passwd when #1 is finished
[21:42] <syke> I just installed kdewebkit and now I get a crash when starting konq
[21:42] <syke> anyone else see this?
[21:45] <patoe1> how do i install files??
[21:45] <Odd-rationale> patoe1: what kind of files?
[21:45] <patoe1> do i want RPM or not?
[21:45] <Odd-rationale> patoe1: you want .deb
[21:45] <patoe1> my choises are
[21:45] <patoe1> Linux RPM (self-extracting file)  filesize: 18.32 MB
[21:45] <Odd-rationale> patoe1: but first check the repos!
[21:46] <patoe1> Linux (self-extracting file)  filesize: 18.83 MB
[21:46] <patoe1> and that
[21:46] <patoe1> ??
[21:46] <patoe1> im lost lol
[21:46] <Odd-rationale> patoe1: rpm is for redhat linux distros. .deb is for debian linux based distros. Ubuntu is debian based.
[21:47] <patoe1> well there is no .deb the one is rpm and the other looks like a .bin
[21:47] <Odd-rationale> patoe1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware
[21:47] <Odd-rationale> anyways. I heading off. see you all later!
[21:48] <linuxguymarshall> Where is menu editor in KDE 4?
[21:48] <Odd-rationale> linuxguymarshall: right click --> edit menus ?
[21:49] <linuxguymarshall> Odd-rationale:No there is an ¨application launcher settings¨ but that just allows me to control the # of items there. I want to be able to delete items from the menu
[21:50] <wesley> how can i install the system setting that kubuntu kde3 uses
[21:50] <Odd-rationale> linuxguymarshall: idk, then sorry. try in #kubuntu-kde4
[21:50] <linuxguymarshall> Odd-rationale:Thanks
[21:50] <Odd-rationale> this time i'm really going...
[21:51] <wesley> i need to mount my external harddrive but i need to force it
[21:52] <wesley> so i need kde3 system settings what is implented in kubuntu so i can activate it
[21:53] <eljefe> How smart is it do dist-upgrade to Hardy from Gutsy?
[21:53] <patoe1> so ubuntu cant have many things instaledd on it?
[21:53] <sourcemaker> I have installed virtualbox but the module is not found... do I need a restart of system or should I compile the module from source
[21:54] <eljefe> bah whatever, I'm going to do it.
[21:54] <Jucato> eljefe: you can get Hardy help in #ubuntu+1
[21:54] <eljefe> kubuntu+1 Jucato, or only Ubuntu+1
[21:54] <Jucato> sourcemaker: is it complaining about the module during installation or when you try to run it
[21:54] <Jucato> eljefe: #ubuntu+1
[21:55] <eljefe> ok thanks
[21:55] <sourcemaker> Jucato: the installation was fine... it's complaining starting the service
[21:55] <Jucato> sourcemaker: if it complains when you're trying to run it, you might need to load some kernel module first
[21:55] <Jucato> I'm not sure, I think "sudo modprobe vboxdrv"
[21:56] <sourcemaker> Jucato: I have already tried this... module not found
[21:56] <Jucato> I think there's a #virtualbox or #vbox channel for help
[21:56] <Jucato> hm..
[21:56] <sourcemaker> Jucato: I have not restarted the system after installation... is this the problem?
[21:56] <Jucato> no
[21:56] <Jucato> sourcemaker: I'm presuming you installed virtualbox-ose from the repositories right?
[21:57] <sourcemaker> Jucato: yes... I have
[21:57] <Jucato> sourcemaker: have you installed virtualbox-ose-modules too?
[21:58] <Jucato> virtualbox-ose-modules-generic I mean
[21:58] <sourcemaker> Jucato: yes... I have installed both modules... generic and rt
[21:58] <sourcemaker> Jucato: because since yesterday.. I am using the RT kernel
[21:59] <Jucato> sourcemaker: gutys or hardy?
[21:59] <sourcemaker> Jucato: hardy
[21:59] <Jucato> oh... try askin in #ubuntu+1 if anyone else has the same problem
[22:02] <mnoir>  in kmail, does the (percent)CURSOR tag work?  I am not getting proper placement in the default reply-to template
[22:07] <drbobb> when i try to connect to last.fm from amarok, my wifi connection is usually killed. any hints?
[22:08] <drbobb> hmm i guess there must be an #amarok channel somewhere, right?
[22:09] <drbobb> yep.
[22:09] <fdoving> there is.
[22:24] <x357> hello?
[22:25] <x357> requesting help
[22:28] <x357> help
[22:29] <Xcerca> if i am using kdesu "adept_manager --dist-upgrade-devel" to upgrade to 8.04   how can i choose the remix version with KDE 4?
[22:30] <Xcerca> or is that the remix with kde 4 ?
[22:31] <terrible_voice> hello everybody
[22:32] <Jucato> Xcerca: to get KDE 4 on an already existing installation, you just have to install kubuntu-kde4-desktop in Hardy
[22:32] <sigma_1234> is there a wubi installer on the gutsy cd?
[22:32] <Jucato> sigma_1234: no. Wubi only becomes "official" in Hardy
[22:32] <Ace2016> how fast is wubi?
[22:33] <Jucato> x357: try asking your question
[22:33] <Xcerca> sounds good,  thx
[22:33] <Ace2016> does the file wubi makes act like a virtual partition in which i can add an xfs partition?
[22:33] <Ace2016> windows ubuntu b??? installer???
[22:34] <x357> im really new at this OS, so how can i set up all my hardware graphics and mobo etc.
[22:34] <Xcerca> x357 , i would check out the forum and wiki on ubuntu's web site
[22:34] <sigma_1234> i saw some wubi_installer.exe on the face of the gutsy cd. too scared to click it though
[22:35] <x357> ok will do thx
[22:37] <x357> what about installing software, the .rpm what do i use?
[22:38] <sigma_1234> !alien
[22:38] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[22:39] <sigma_1234> use at your own risk. grrrr!
[22:40] <Jucato> x357: you don't use RPMs in Kubuntu. you use DEBs
[22:40] <x357> ok, im checking the wiki
[22:43] <patoe1> nana
[22:44] <patoe1> whats up
[22:49] <patoe1> hey i installed Teamspeak 2 but idk were to find it to open it now...
[22:52] <x357> how can i install nvidia drivers?
[22:53] <Ashex> !nvidia | x357
[22:53] <ubotu> x357: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[23:00] <sourcemaker> does somebody use ipodlinux on his ipod...?
[23:01] <x357> how can i check my ubuntu version?
[23:02] <algyz> x357:  cat /etc/version
[23:02] <algyz> no, wrong :)
[23:02] <pc_> hi
[23:02] <Jucato> !version
[23:02] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[23:03] <Ashex> I was going to say that :p
[23:03] <algyz> x357:  or cat /etc/issue :)
[23:03] <x357> thx algyz
[23:04] <pc_> i want to install JVM on my computer but i have some problems... anyone can help me?
[23:04] <algyz> !ask | pc_
[23:04] <ubotu> pc_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[23:05] <x357> were do i go to update my OS version?
[23:06] <algyz> x357:  which version do you have?
[23:06] <x357>  6.06
[23:07] <algyz> x357:  command is    kdesu "update-manager -c"
[23:08] <x357> ??? i'll try that later gave me an error
[23:09] <algyz> x357:  what kind of error?
[23:10] <x357> not found error
[23:11] <algyz> x357:  then try  sudo aptitude update, sudo aptitude upgrade, sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[23:12] <algyz> x357  well, maybe you don't have update-manager, then install it:  sudo apt-get install update-manager-core
[23:13] <sourcemaker> does someone use rockbox on his ipod?
[23:13] <Teo-> hi! i have patched the bcm43xx driver for injection using the ubuntu guide on the ubuntu server with no errors but when i try to use sudo aireplay -9 eth1 the injection is not working:( some help please?
[23:13] <ere4si> 6.06 is the lts - end of april it can upgrade straight to 8.04
[23:14] <carrie> I have lost my address bar and Google search bar in my web Konquerer.  Can anyone help me?
[23:15] <Blissex3> carrie: yes.
[23:15] <carrie> thank you
[23:16] <carrie> what must i do?
[23:21] <Blissex3> carrie: 'Settings->Configure toolbars' for the address bar.
[23:22] <Blissex3> carrie: 'Settings->Configure extensions' for the Google bar.
[23:22] <Blissex3> carrie: however sometimes these disappear because of bugs, so be patient.
[23:24] <Fleck_laptop> hey - i have problem :) HP laptop, guidance-power-manager is not switching to battery mode when i remove AC
[23:31] <DarkriftX> Fleck_laptop, do you have apci=off in kernel args?
[23:32] <Fleck_laptop> nope
[23:32] <DarkriftX> hrmmm
[23:33] <DarkriftX> because that option gives me the same problem on an hp laptop
[23:33] <DarkriftX> along with many others
[23:33] <Fleck_laptop> :(
[23:40]  * patoe1 runs in a trows cookies everware
[23:40] <patoe1> throws*
[23:41] <terrible_voice> hello everybody
[23:41] <DarkriftX> wow, that sentence was a spelling nightmare
[23:41] <patoe1> i know
[23:41] <DarkriftX> 50% of the words were incorrect
[23:41] <patoe1> somethimes i cant sleep at night :(
[23:42] <DarkriftX> heh, i know how that is
[23:42] <patoe1> :'(
[23:42] <patoe1> i dont even know how my girlfreind loves me
[23:42] <DarkriftX> for the money?
[23:44] <Fleck_laptop> DarkriftX: discovered something interesting - if batt is fully charged - and i remove AC, it detects batt mode!
[23:44] <Fleck_laptop> ohh no, not allways :(
[23:45] <patoe1> i gess that must be it
[23:46] <patoe1> im a big stupid jock
[23:46] <tdobson> hey there. anyone got any idea how to use a SOCKS 5 proxy (a ssh tunnel) with Konqueror?
[23:48] <DarkriftX> thats odd Fleck_laptop
[23:48] <Fleck_laptop> odd?
[23:48] <DarkriftX> have you tried a reboot? or maybe kill and restart the power manager
[23:48] <Fleck_laptop> yep
[23:50] <patoe1> you could always kill yourself, thats an option i always leave in the back of my head
[23:50] <DarkriftX> try it and let us know how it works
[23:52] <patoe1> ....
[23:52] <patoe1> i cant find the program i just installed
[23:54] <patoe1> no help
[23:54] <patoe1> join #xubuntu
[23:55] <Fleck_laptop> DarkriftX: i installed kpowersave - seems to work great!
[23:55] <DarkriftX> nice
[23:55] <DarkriftX> good to know for future purposes
[23:55] <patoe1> i just installed Teamspeak 2 and i dont know how to open it
[23:58] <jacques_> patoe1: can't you just run teamspeak-client