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secretlondongnome00:01
stephantomthat's odd, yeah00:01
james_wso I think it fails when trying to add CAP_NET_ADMIN, CAP_NET_RAW to it's capabilities.00:03
james_wthat only happens if it was run set-uid or set-gid00:05
james_wapparently00:05
james_wstephantom: is kdesu a suid program?00:06
stephantomjames_w, sorry, I don't know. can I check that somehow?00:07
james_wstephantom: ls -l /usr/bin/kdesu00:08
james_wif it is -rwsr-xr-x then it is00:08
james_wi.e. it is s in the fourth place, not x00:08
stephantomlrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 2008-04-05 00:08 /usr/bin/kdesu -> kdesudo00:09
stephantomgksu: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 23016 2007-12-05 19:41 /usr/bin/gksu00:09
james_wwhat's kdesudo?00:10
james_wI mean what's the permissions on it?00:10
james_walso "lsmod | grep capa" please.00:10
stephantom-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 68736 2008-03-28 15:43 /usr/bin/kdesudo00:11
stephantomlsmod | grep capa returns nothing00:11
james_wok, "sudo modprobe capability" please00:12
james_wand try again00:12
stephantomFATAL: Module capability not found.00:13
james_wah, ok00:13
james_wI was reading http://fixunix.com/mandriva/323379-wireshark-2008-0-a.html00:14
james_wstephantom: what's your kernel version?00:16
stephantom2.6.24-14-generic00:16
james_wsecretlondon: can I ask what your kernel version is as well please?00:16
secretlondonsure00:16
james_wok, what is your kernel version? :-)00:16
secretlondoni've forgotten the command for that00:17
secretlondonarrgh00:17
stephantomuname -a00:17
secretlondonta00:17
secretlondonLinux celery 2.6.24-14-generic #1 SMP00:17
secretlondonI can re check on my machine00:17
james_wyou are using the (as root) option from the menu?00:18
secretlondonyes00:18
secretlondonyou can't capture otherwise00:18
secretlondoni'm using ppp though00:19
secretlondonas it's a usb hsdpa modem00:19
secretlondonah but currently I don't have any interfaces available in the program..00:21
secretlondonit worked a couple of weeks ago00:21
james_wI wonder if it's the .24 kernel?00:22
secretlondonI wonder if it network manager00:22
stephantomI'm not using network manager00:22
secretlondonas I've had loads of problems with things thinking I am offline, and now nm thinks I am online permanentky00:22
Nafallowill they release a new NM soon?00:24
james_whttp://bugs.wireshark.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2288 is kind of the bug.00:24
ubotubugs.wireshark.org bug 2288 in Wireshark "Selecting multiple files with any options creates an error <Child capture process exited: exit status 2>" [Major,Resolved: fixed]00:24
Nafallolike... 7 :-)00:24
james_wit fixes the hanging problem, and the capset problem is described, but not dealt with apparently.00:25
stephantomjames_w, shouldn't that fix already be in the 1.0.0 release?00:26
secretlondonmy capture interfaces is blank for some reason00:27
secretlondonI clearly have ppp000:28
* secretlondon sighs00:28
stephantomsecretlondon, that happens to me if I run wireshark as standard user00:28
secretlondonyou are right,  I seem to have lost my run as root menu entry00:29
* secretlondon realises they are not being very helpful00:29
stephantomjoin the club in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wireshark/+bug/209084 :D00:30
ubotuLaunchpad bug 209084 in wireshark "no run as root in menu in hardy" [Undecided,Confirmed]00:30
james_wstephantom: I don't know.00:31
james_whmm, I've got one00:31
stephantomme too00:31
secretlondonI got a window popping up warning me about running stuff as root, which i needed to close to use the app00:31
secretlondonbut I'm currently capturing packets on ppp0 and started wireshark using gksudo from the cli00:31
james_wweird. Thanks secretlondon00:33
james_wI've got to sleep though. Night all.00:33
stephantomthe capabilities module was merged into the kernel in .24, right?00:33
secretlondonI think some of the 'freezing' may be people not closing the window, as you get the busy cursor and no response nuntil you do00:33
secretlondonnight james_w00:34
stephantomall right, night. thanks james_w00:34
stephantomI'll update the bug report in launchpad with our findings00:35
sdhyay bugs00:46
secretlondonoh yes!00:47
secretlondonah wireshark has now frozen when  I tried to capture using any00:51
* secretlondon scratches head00:51
stephantomyay, finally, now you see how we felt for the last 2-3 hours00:52
stephantomsdh, bugs? only 41415 open ones to pick from...00:52
sdhstephantom: i meant the hug day email :>00:52
secretlondoncapture on eth0 hasn't frozen, but I admit I don't actually have a cable in00:52
stephantomyay hug day00:53
secretlondoncapturing on lo fine too00:53
secretlondonand any without the promiscuous mode flag set00:54
secretlondonbut I reset the flag and it's fine00:55
secretlondonarrgh for random bugs00:55
stephantomsecretlondon, try opening the 'Interfaces' window00:55
stephantomand start a capture from there00:56
secretlondonokay00:56
secretlondonclosing the interfaces window has caused it to freeze, during the capture that was ok00:56
stephantomnow that's what we were talking about00:57
stephantomand I bet that after killing wireshark you'll still have a dumpcap process lurking around00:57
secretlondonokay, restarting and using interfaces it froze again00:58
PlantainHey, I've got no sound on Hardy with an Intel chipset. I've searched the lauchpad and found many seemingly loosely related bugs, but I'm not sure if I should file my own or just add to someone elses?00:58
stephantomalternatively, you can kill the dumpcap process. then the capture will work.00:58
secretlondonwhen I closed all the windows it didn't give me back the cli, needed to ctrl-c00:58
secretlondonI have multiple wireshark and dumpcap processes01:01
stephantomI'm going to bed now, suggest you kill all your leftofter wireshark/dumpcap processes ;-) happy hunting!01:07
stephantomthat should be "leftover"01:08
stephantomI'm getting tried01:08
stephantombye01:08
greg-gis it tomorrow somewhere in the world?01:10
greg-goh wait, the hug day isn't until tuesday of course01:10
greg-gnevermind01:11
secretlondonyeah it's saturday here01:12
greg-gI accidently started on some of the bugs on the hugday list :)01:13
greg-gI just saw wiki page of bugs and thought "oooo! time to start triaging!"01:13
LaserJocktsk tsk01:14
LaserJockwe can't just have people fixing bug willy nilly01:14
secretlondonwe could fix them all before the hug day01:17
secretlondonas there is no way there is only 100 bugs without packages ;)01:17
LaserJockthat would be hilarious01:17
LaserJock"so ... uh ... whada we do now?"01:17
* secretlondon points at launchpad01:18
greg-g:)01:18
* greg-g is off, take care01:18
secretlondonbye greg-g01:19
greg-gtah tah secretlondon01:19
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graphxHello all04:47
graphxI have a question.  Anyone have experience with pulseaudio?04:48
graphxReason I as is I want to make sure what I am running in to is not a bug...04:49
IulianG'morning07:21
Joe520hi all08:11
Joe520i found a bug in ubuntu 7.1008:12
Joe520with SMC 54mbps wireless card...08:12
Joe520i cannot boot from live cd when smc is connected to the PCI bus... the boot will be frozen....08:12
Joe520is it fixed in hardy?08:13
qensehello08:31
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Joe520hi11:12
Joe520anybody here?11:12
jeromegyes11:14
persiaJoe520: Lots of people.  What's up?11:14
Joe520i had a bug i 71011:18
Joe5207.1011:18
Joe520with SMC wireless pci card11:18
Joe520i cannot boot from live cd11:18
Joe520cos of the freeze11:19
jeromegJoe520: you should report a bug on Launchpad11:19
Joe520not here?11:19
jeromegJoe520: here it will get lost11:20
Joe520:S11:20
Joe520ok where is the launchpad?11:20
jeromegon Launchpad, a trace will be kept, and devs will be able to work on it11:20
jeromeghttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu11:21
Joe520:S11:21
Joe520ok11:21
jeromegplease have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures to provide all the needed information11:22
Joe520ok11:22
Joe520thx11:22
Joe520bye-bye11:30
affluxmorning11:40
kblinhi folks11:44
kblinI'm currently trying to figure out bug #19887111:49
ubotuLaunchpad bug 198871 in ubuntu "Jmicron AHCI controller probs..." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19887111:49
kblinI'm pretty sure it's actually a kernel bug with the jmicron driver11:49
kblinit's not filed correctly, though11:49
affluxbug 101845 is about gnome-mount trying to access a mountpoint which was not removed on reboot, so it appends an underscore each time. Any ideas on which package is affected?11:54
ubotuLaunchpad bug 101845 in ubuntu "Automounted Volumes mount points change" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/10184511:54
bicyclistafflux: So now my presumed bug is confirmed ;) Wondered recently why areca backup didn't run til i found the _ after the drive.12:59
affluxbicyclist: right, I have seen the same thing long ago but thought it was fixed since it somehow disappeared13:09
bicyclistLong ago meaning in a previous release or earlier in the hardy development ?13:10
affluxin edgy even13:10
bicyclistOk, now THAT is long ago ;) !13:11
affluxwhen I was a simple user ;)13:11
bicyclistGrin, yeah, same with me around that time ;)13:11
affluxI think I even fixed that issue with a workaround, but I can't remember what it was13:12
bicyclistHmm, maybe something in the mtab ?13:13
bicyclistI think i remember some issues way back then ;)13:13
affluxhm13:14
bicyclistLook what i found: There are two lines regarding usb13:17
bicyclistprocbususb /proc/bus/usb usbfs rw 0 013:17
bicyclistAND13:18
bicyclistnone /proc/bus/usb usbfs rw,devmode=0666 0 013:18
bicyclistWhich one is the correct one ? i remember having removed none /proc.... but now it is there again !13:19
zasf#ubuntu-it15:43
qense?15:43
zasfsorry, I didn't type '/j'15:44
qense:)15:44
qensedoes anyone knows if bug 212271 is complete? I've triaged it, but I can't find the cause in the log files16:38
ubotuLaunchpad bug 212271 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24 "2.6.24-15-generic: saa7134-alsa makes HAL to fail" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21227116:38
exxonnhi16:58
qensehello16:58
exxonni have a question ...im new to ubuntu ..16:58
qenseok16:58
qensethis channel is for bugs :)16:58
qensefor support you can try #ubuntu or #ubuntu-{language-code}16:58
exxonnhow do i install azureus ? (a bittorrent client) ? already downloaded it but have no clue how to install it and now i cant even find it16:59
qenseexonn: please ask in #ubuntu16:59
exxonnoh ok .. sorry16:59
qense:)16:59
qensenever mind16:59
qensedoes anyone knows if bug 212271 is complete? I've triaged it, but I can't find the cause in the log files16:59
exxonnjoin #ubuntu16:59
qenseLaunchpad bug 212271 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24 "2.6.24-15-generic: saa7134-alsa makes HAL to fail" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21227116:59
mrooneyexxonn: that bug looks related to something I just saw...17:40
qenseexxonn is already gone :)17:42
mrooneyoh, indeed!17:44
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qensedoes syslog contain the same information as kern.log?18:05
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bdmurrayjames_w: you might be interested in bug 21062218:20
ubotuLaunchpad bug 210622 in bzrtools "package bzrtools 1.2.0-1ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21062218:20
jarlathI'm just looking through bugs in launchpad.net. Are bugs filed independently of the ubuntu release version? It seems that there are bugs filed for Feisty and Hardy.18:35
LaserJockyep18:38
LaserJockthere's bugs for every release18:38
jarlathSo if I just want to triage Hardy ones, is that possible?18:38
LaserJockhmm, that can be slightly problematic18:39
LaserJockyou can look at bugs specifically targeted at hardy18:39
jarlathOkay, so the idea is that all releases are treated equally?18:39
LaserJockthe idea is that we don't know what release a bug applies to18:40
jarlathOkay. By searching for Hardy ?18:40
jarlathIs that not inefficient?18:41
jarlathI'm not knocking the system - I'm just trying to understand so I can contribute.18:41
LaserJockwell, people just file bugs18:41
LaserJockwe don't know before hand what release the bug is in18:42
jarlathOh yes.18:42
jarlaththat makes sense. That's where triaging comes in?18:42
LaserJockexactly18:42
jarlath(lightbulb!)18:43
jarlathThank you.18:43
Nafallobugs can only be in more releases then one, mind you.18:43
LaserJockyep18:43
LaserJockso the first step is to verify that it is a bug18:43
LaserJockthen you figure out what releases have the bug18:43
jarlathIf the same package version is used in more than one release you mean? I don't fully understand you Nafallo.18:43
LaserJockbugs can be carried from release to release as well18:44
jarlathAh yes.18:44
Nafallojarlath: what says it has to be only one version of a program having the same bug?18:44
jarlathNafallo: I understand now. Thanks.18:44
Nafallonp18:46
snap-lI'm not sure what t do with bug #4699418:47
ubotuLaunchpad bug 46994 in setserial "Setserial's autosave doesn't work" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/4699418:47
snap-lSeems upstream isn't responding18:47
snap-lShould I mark the bug as invalid?18:47
qenseyou could send an email to de upstream maintainer to ask for more information about the progress18:48
Nafallosnap-l: is it a reproducibla, actual bug?18:48
snap-lI've reproduced it myself18:48
Nafallosomewhere my mind took a turn and inserted random characters :-P18:48
snap-lHowever, I'm not even sure this is the right way to set serial ports18:48
Nafallosnap-l: then it is in fact a bug... why would you mark it as not being one?18:49
snap-lI did, and received no response.18:49
snap-lMy thought is there's another way to set the serial ports rather than setserial18:49
Nafalloif it is a bug. it is a bug...18:49
snap-lalthough I'm not aware of what that is, since I'm not using serial ports much anymore.18:49
snap-lhttp://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=314219 <- This is the note I sent to them.18:50
ubotuDebian bug 314219 in setserial "setserial: package configure goes wrong" [Important,Open]18:50
qenseI've been triaging bug 212271 but I can't find a line in the error logs that indicates what's going wrong. What files should I ask for?18:53
ubotuLaunchpad bug 212271 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24 "2.6.24-15-generic: saa7134-alsa makes HAL to fail" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21227118:53
snap-lqense: Is there anything in /var/log/messages?18:55
qenseI don't know :)18:55
qenseI'll ask for it18:59
qensehow do you mark bugs for expiration?19:10
LaserJockqense: they expire when they are set to Incomplete for 60 days without any further response19:11
qensewhen does the warning appear above the title?19:11
LaserJockwhen you set it to Incomplete19:12
qenseI've set a lot of bug reports to incomplete but they never got a expiration warning above their name19:13
IulianIf you assign the bugs to you it won't expire.19:13
qenseok19:14
qenseso you shouldn't assign bugs to yourself when you're triaging them?19:15
LaserJockwell, assigning means your doing something about the bug19:15
qensewhat's actually the policy withing bugcontrol about assigning yourself to bugs19:15
LaserJocklike working on it19:15
LaserJockI'm thinking for most triage you're not going to want to assign yourself19:16
qensethe triage guide tells you to assign yourself to a bug report you're triaging until it's confirmed19:16
LaserJockhuh, interesting19:16
LaserJockI guess that would be so that you don't lose track of what you're doing and you stick to a bug until it's resolved19:17
qenseit's indeed quite useful19:17
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qensebut I think we should  make a policy for this, a clear set of rules to let bug expire but also be able to keep easily track of them19:17
qenseping bdmurray19:17
IulianI'm not sure if this is very important when you triage a bug. If you assign it to yourself it means that you are keeping an eye to the bug to be completed and ready for a developer to start working on it.19:18
IulianAfter that (means that the bug is ready and has all the information needed for a dev to look at it) you should unassign from it and change its status to Confirmed/Triaged.19:22
qensebut if a bug isn't confirmed nor contains enough information...19:23
IulianYou should ask here in the channel and someone will try to help you to triage it, of course if (s)he knows.19:24
qensewhat if the reported doesn't respond19:24
* Gnine thanks all folks who make ubuntu possible19:25
* Gnine also hugglez ubotu19:25
IulianAfter four weeks, its status should be changed to Invalid with the right comment from /Bugs/Responses19:26
qensethe expiration functionality does that automatically19:26
IulianNo, it does not, AFAIK.19:27
qenseit should19:27
qenseso if we get a better way of assigning people to bugs we can use it19:27
LaserJockIulian: why 4 weeks when it would normaly expire in 8?19:27
IulianLaserJock: Don't know, ask bdmurray. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status19:28
LaserJockI'm not terribly fond of these "cookie cutter" pages19:30
LaserJocksome bugs will be open for a long time19:32
LaserJockyears perhaps19:32
LaserJockI'm not fond of just ignoring things after 30 days19:32
qensebut if no one replies, what should you do?19:34
IulianLaserJock: But not in the Incomplete status and without any responses from the reporter.19:35
IulianLaserJock: Oh yea, it depends.19:35
LaserJockIulian: sure it can19:36
syke_qense: hi :)19:36
LaserJocklook at Debian19:36
qensehello19:36
LaserJockI say about 20 bugs today that have been opened for > 2 years without a response19:36
LaserJock*saw19:36
LaserJockit doesn't mean they aren't bugs19:36
syke_this bug gets inquiries a few times a day, for months now: http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogasawara/hardy-buglist.html19:37
syke_er19:37
syke_this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/19755819:37
ubotuLaunchpad bug 197558 in linux "ssb module breaks BCM4328 with ndiswrapper (regression from 2.6.24-10)" [Medium,Triaged]19:37
qensewell, it's confirmed and assigned, there isn't much we can do on that for now19:38
syke_working with my canonical support rep, I finally got my wireless working decently in feisty/gutsy, but now it's broken again. i even bought a new laptop to try and help the situation :(19:38
IulianLaserJock: Yes, but that's why we can change its status to NEW again if someone knows something about that bug.19:38
qensemaybe it shoudl be reported upstream19:38
LaserJockIulian: but it looks like people are just closing bugs as fast as they can ;-)19:38
IulianLaserJock: Unfortunately I noticed that too.19:39
qensebut bugs like bug 182410 aren't things that need to stay open in my eyes19:39
ubotuLaunchpad bug 182410 in hal "ATI DRIVER CORUPTED" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18241019:39
LaserJockqense: but people need to know the difference19:40
qensetrue19:40
syke_qense: can I ask my support rep to do something to help?19:41
qensesupport rep?19:41
qensewhat does it support?19:41
syke_my canonical support rep, that is :)19:41
qenseah, the partner19:41
secretlondonsyke_ no idea19:41
syke_I try to work in the community for alpha/beta to clear up issues before release, and then with Canonical post-release19:42
syke_but maybe poking at some french-canadians before release might help get this ndiswrapper issue fixed?19:42
LaserJocksyke_: it's got a Medium importance and is assigned to the Kernel team19:42
syke_ok19:42
LaserJockI'm not sure how much more can be done other than telling your support rep you want it fixed ;-)19:43
syke_I would be concerned since several people ask in the channel per day, for months now, that they are getting a bad impression of hardy. Hopefully it gets fixed for beta 219:43
qensecan it be forwared upstream?19:43
LaserJockupstrem to where?19:43
qensekernel.org?19:44
qenseor is it an ubuntu module?19:44
LaserJockI wouldn't think sending it upstream would do much, and I would let the Kernel Team figure that out19:45
syke_just so they know it's a widespread problem that has potential PR impact ;)19:47
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sykeqense: thanks for your help and candor :)19:48
DOOM_NXhello! :)20:37
jarlathHi DOOM_NX20:38
jarlathAre the logs of this channel available online?20:38
pochu!logs20:38
ubotuChannel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - Logs for LoCo channels are at http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/20:38
jarlathIt would be a good way to learn.20:38
jarlath:) Thx20:39
james_wbdmurray: yeah, it's on my radar, thanks.21:15
greg-gwow, I'll need to make a journal entry about this.  First time I saw a bug with [Intrepid] in the subject.  bug 21247821:29
ubotuLaunchpad bug 212478 in xulrunner-1.9 "[Intrepid] Use the system sqlite instead of the in-source one" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21247821:29
secretlondonwow21:29
greg-gyeah, it is a special day21:30
RaseelHi, I'm trying yo get involved with Ubuntu Bug packaging with the MOTU team. I need help with the following things :21:34
afflux(what is bug packaging?)21:35
Raseel@afflux Uhh... Creating Ubuntu packages for new packages requests.21:35
affluxrigh21:36
affluxthen you'll better ask at #ubuntu-motu21:36
greg-gso, just packaging in general then yes?  or patches to fix specific bugs?21:36
Raseeloh ok... sorry.....21:36
RaseelMy bad.21:36
greg-gno worries21:36
Raseel@greg-g : This would be a good place to ask about Bug Triaging then ?21:37
greg-gRaseel: yes21:38
RaseelGood, I'll be back here soon then :-)21:39
greg-gRaseel: sounds good :)21:39
crimsunpeople are jumping the gun a bit with those xulrunner-1.9/ff-3.0 bug reports21:48
LaserJockbit interesting21:48
crimsunif they had waited until b5 was available to update, they wouldn't have been bitten21:48
LaserJockbut who wants to wait for the latest crack? :-)21:54
jjesseji like crack21:55
jjesse:)21:55
affluxargh22:13
affluxnice upstream people closing their bug with "this was fixed in <some-version>", but no indication on what was the fix.22:13
secretlondonargh22:14
affluxthey don't run a changelog, they don't have dates in their release announcements, they even do their releases without indications in the VCS. I just don't know between which revisions i've to search.22:15
LaserJockthat's kinda gross22:15
affluxon top of that, they're asking for getting their shiny new release to hardy, *today*, five days from finalfreeze22:16
afflux*mumbles*22:16
LaserJockwhat is the upstream?22:17
affluxIt's the screenlets package, I'm not sure if it's a single person or what.22:18
LaserJockjjesse: you're not in -doc?22:31
affluxhm, going to bed now. good night!22:31
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Gninebug 20565423:57
ubotuLaunchpad bug 205654 in firefox-3.0 "firefox crashed with SIGSEGV in memcpy()" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20565423:57
Gnineshame .. thats what i just got23:57
crimsunwith 3.0b5?23:58
Gnine423:58
Gninei see..23:59
secretlondonb5 is the new one23:59
Gninejust that update-manager nor apt has cue me for upgrade yet23:59

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