[11:35] <javahorn> how to test an application in device agnostic manner , i mean to test it on firmware so that it can be established that it will run on all the family of mobile phones of one type ,of one vendor ?
[15:31] <eitreach> Howdy. I'm looking to use Ubuntu Mobile with my asus eee - where can I download the current version?
[15:59] <Random> how does one specify applets to be loaded at desktop startup?
[16:43] <eitreach> Random, how did you install and what did you install on?
[16:44] <Random> i did apt-get install ubuntu-mobile, on a more-or-less normal computer
[16:44] <Random> which, i realize its not quite supported
[16:44] <Random> however, im using this stuff for my carputer, which has a touchscreen
[16:45] <Random> so, the interface is ideal for usage with that
[16:45] <Random> just all the other hardware is pretty much a normal PC
[16:45] <eitreach> random I have very limited space on the eee.. Do you recall how big the install was?
[16:46] <Random> *shrugs* didn't pay attention... i have an 80gb hard drive, so i really haven't paid attention to the space constraints
[16:47] <eitreach> alright. Thanks anyhow. :) 
[16:48] <Random> i *think* its one of the options you can select in one of the installers
[16:48] <Random> i've seen that their goal is <= 500MB
[16:48] <eitreach> I haven't been able to find an iso yet.. Just img-files, which I wouldn't know how to use, sadly. 
[16:49] <Random> yeah, thats the maddening part... they're specifically targetting handheld phone devices, and not making it easy to use as just another ubuntu install
[16:49] <eitreach> with the umpc-market booming, I hope that'll change soon. 
[16:50] <Random> theres a way discussed on the wiki i believe to install into a chroot environment
[16:50] <eitreach> hmm.. I could see that out. 
[16:51] <Random> conceivably you could then tar that up and copy to your eee
[16:52] <eitreach> I'm just a regular desktop-user, heh.. It sounds amazingly complicated, sadly. 
[16:52] <Random> yeah, its all still very alpha IMHO
[16:53] <eitreach> oh well.. s'pose I'll just use 7.10 on it. It works well anyhow.. just curious to see how it would work. It seems nice. 
[16:54] <Random> screenshot: http://www.virtualroadside.com/blog/index.php/2008/04/05/ubuntu-mobile-screenshot-on-my-carputer/
[16:54] <eitreach> sigh.. it looks so nice. Would work well on the small screen, I think. 
[16:54] <Random> yes, sadly its not entirely functional :-p
[16:55] <eitreach> that's why I changed from the Xandros-distro shipped with the eee. :p 
[16:55] <eitreach> wrecked my system too many times apt-getting ordinary things. 
[16:56] <Random> yeah.. of the icons shown on my desktop there... the only ones that actually do anything is the Web Browser, Terminal, Control Panel, and Galculator
[16:56] <Random> lol
[16:56] <Random> the other ones silently die
[16:56] <Random> and i still cant figure out where the hell it decides which icons are displayed on the desktop
[16:56] <eitreach> bah.. wish there were more funds to fund the funding. 
[16:57] <eitreach> wonder if Android will be available for installs on umpcs as well.. it could start a pleasant new trend. 
[16:57] <Random> indeed
[16:58] <eitreach> not that I don't like regular Ubuntu.. I use it on my main desktop as well - I just like seeing new things. 
[16:58] <Random> yeah... heres the chroot thing... it probably works in hardy too: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded/HildonDesktopManualProcedure
[16:59] <eitreach> I'll try that out should I randomly hop into a manic state of mind. Thanks. :) 
[21:01] <ricky_> hi everybody
[21:02] <ricky_> a little question, anyone knows if this porting is possible on a Motorola a1000 ?
[21:46] <solo> i have a 7'' touchscreen and am interested in running ubuntu mobile
[21:46] <solo> where do i stat
[21:46] <solo> start