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Dar1ushi, anyone know why dbus-daemon & dbus-launch keep holding my dvb dvr0 node open?01:06
|DuReX|how do I configure channels to watch in MythTV ? :s01:16
Dar1us|DuReX|: run the setup tool01:21
Dar1usie mythtv-setup01:21
Dar1usit can scan your channels and so on01:22
|DuReX|scan is greyed out :(01:27
Dar1usnfs (5)              - nfs and nfs4 fstab format and options01:48
Dar1us[mythbuntu 11:18] ~ >man 5 nfs01:48
Dar1usNo manual entry for nfs in section 501:48
Dar1uswtf?01:48
famicom<famicom> has any of you managed to get HD-TV decoders to work properly?01:58
famicomand by decoder i mean tuner01:59
tgm4883_laptopfamicom, like which tuners?01:59
tgm4883_laptopmy pcHDTV-5500 worked fine when I had it hooked up01:59
famicomi got a kncone dvb-c tuner02:01
famicomdrivers et all work just fine, however playback is slow as hell02:01
famicomactually02:02
famicomit tends to segfault mythtv02:02
rhpot1992famicom: mess with the playback profiles02:14
rhpot1992by default they eat a lot more cpu on 0.21 than they did on 0.20.2, you are running 0.21 now right?02:14
famicomyeah02:16
famicomactually02:16
famicomi did setup a new profile02:16
famicombut it still messes with my stuff02:16
famicomi got a sempron le 1300 with 2 gb ram02:16
rhpot1992segfaulting could be you using somethign your system doesn't have02:16
famicomas well as a 630nforce/geforce 705002:17
rhpot1992check the logs, run frontend from a terminal to see what it spits out?02:17
rhpot1992what kind of GHZ does that have?02:17
famicom2.302:18
famicomAMD Sempron LE-1300 Energy Efficient 2.3 GHz02:18
rhpot199232 bit?02:18
famicom64 i think02:18
tgm4883_laptopuname -r02:19
famicomno i run a 32bit distro02:19
rhpot1992well.... On my athlon 1900+ I could only do HD if I forced XvMC, got rid of menu transitions and made sure it didn't do anything else while playing bach HD02:19
famicomhow old is that proc rhpot199202:20
rhpot1992few years02:23
famicomrhpot1992 well then02:26
famicomthats odd02:26
famicomwhat gfx card did you use02:27
Cacketteis it possible to get compiz fusion on mythbuntu?02:28
Cackettei installed it, but it didnt work02:28
Cackettehttp://pastebin.org/2749202:28
famicomoh02:29
famicominstall the compiz themes02:30
famicomgo read up on the ubuntu forums02:30
famicomthis isnt mythbuntu related02:30
Cackettei heard it was02:30
famicomwho told you that02:30
Cackettesomeone from #compiz-fusion02:31
famicomoh02:31
famicomwell whoever that was, was an idiot02:31
famicomhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=58525202:32
Cackettehow about before that, Checking for Xgl: not present.02:32
famicomhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=61187702:33
famicomthe rest you can google02:33
famicomi'm not here to do your homework for you02:33
troy_sSomeone clue me in on how to change the default port for MythTV's database connection?04:33
dthackerno idea.  It connects on the default MySQL port.   You could change the MySQL port, but I don't see where to adjust Mythbuntu.04:52
dthackertroy_s: ^^^^04:52
SoulBladeso i upgraded to mythtv .21 - my video card requires nvidia-glx-legacy and i think mythtv crashes using it05:27
SoulBladehow do i downgrade back05:27
SoulBladeah nice it was fixed in a later package it seems.. gonna have to try it out05:34
Bog_hello07:10
Bog_anyone seen that new HD PVR yet?07:10
JThundleyno07:11
Bog_http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3202707:13
Bog_'m trying to understand how its used07:13
Bog_http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/hd_pvr.html07:14
Bog_and why its such a big deal07:15
Bog_can anyone recommend a small and quiet pc to run mythtv?07:21
superm1_Bog_, it "will" be a big deal if there is linux support for it07:27
superm1_which rumor has it there will be07:27
Bog_ok07:27
Bog_but what is the device used for exactly?07:27
Bog_its not a tv tuner07:27
superm1_you hook up a STB to it07:28
superm1_and it will convert hidef stuff to x26407:28
superm1_and spit it out usb07:28
Bog_ok07:29
Bog_still dont know why that is such a big deal07:29
Bog_I suppose that offloads CPU07:29
superm1_well say you've got DISH networks07:29
superm1_there is no way to capture hidef07:29
superm1_other than this07:29
Bog_I get it07:30
superm1_or even a cable company07:30
superm1_that locks down your firewire port07:30
Bog_I suppose from a blueray player too07:30
superm1_well bluray won't output full res to component07:30
Bog_ok07:30
Bog_but I think I'm getting it07:30
superm1_you need HDMI/HDCP07:30
superm1_but it will be pretty much the holy grail of capture toys07:31
Bog_well... back to my second Q... I've been wanting to buy or build a PVR07:31
superm1_i'm not one to recommend hardware much07:31
Bog_its the holy grail because it captures on component and thats what satelite can output?07:32
superm1_the guys in the morning (central time or so) are better to talk to07:32
superm1_Bog_, it's the holy grail because it captures hidef that normally can't be done due to encryption07:32
Bog_yep, got it... no need for cable card07:32
superm1_exactly07:33
Bog_is there an hd tuner that supports cable card?07:33
superm1_there is one for windows made by AMD07:34
superm1_other than that i dont believe so07:34
Bog_I'm considering getting a pvr but in the past year I've been more into downloading content07:34
superm1_well whatever works for you :)07:36
Bog_what is your media setup?07:36
superm1_pvr-500, air2pc hd5000, hdhome run (2xHD tuners)07:37
superm1_and i'm adding a STB w/ firewire07:37
Bog_what do you use it all for?07:38
Bog_it just records and plays content?07:38
Bog_what STB are you adding?07:39
superm1_i'm adding a scientific atlanta 4250hdc07:40
superm1_just got it today07:40
superm1_it records all my content yes07:40
Bog_but the hdhome run, what source does it get content from?07:40
superm1_and then if i ever miss something for a channel i dont get or something i just download it and put it in dump folder to watch07:40
superm1_my cable07:40
darthanubisexcuse me, but sup, you would not have nay idea why mythtv-status would need to be restarted every now and then to be keep accurate?07:41
Bog_how does it handle encrypted channels?07:41
superm1_it's only updated every 10 minutes07:41
superm1_Bog_, that's just it, it "doesnt"07:41
darthanubisI don't have a error or rhyme or reason to help with your analysis, sorry:(07:41
superm1_hence the awesomeness factor of that hauppauge toy07:41
Bog_super: how many encrypted and non encrypted channels are there?07:41
superm1_Bog_, for me i get about 8 digital channel unencrypted, there are a lot of encrypted ones thoug07:42
Bog_:(07:42
superm1_that's why i'm hoping to ge tmore via this stb on fireiwre07:42
superm1_darthanubis, it only updates on a cron job07:42
Bog_I'm worried Apple is going to mave DRMed TV and movies cool07:42
Bog_make07:42
superm1_i hope not07:42
darthanubissuperm1_, thanks, I'll look into it closer07:43
Bog_they did for music07:43
darthanubisyour the man07:43
Bog_and are now the #1 music reatailer07:43
Bog_ahead of Walmart07:43
darthanubissuperm1_, I reccomend your IRC exit tag be "Up Up and away" ;)07:44
darthanubisthat'd be.....supreme07:44
superm1_haha07:44
darthanubisha07:44
Bog_I'm designing a network for my media in my new loft07:45
Bog_I've decided to centralize all my equipment in a closet and distribute to all my TVs07:46
Bog_I'm undecided tune/capture devices yet07:47
darthanubisBog_, what fun!07:47
Bog_I think I might include an Apple TV near each TV or I can centralize one of these07:47
Bog_yeah, been a big project for me07:48
Bog_the condo will be done this summer07:48
Bog_I'm hidding speakers in the ceiling and wall too07:48
darthanubisnice07:49
Bog_I hate seeing cables07:49
darthanubismythtv has apple streaming07:49
darthanubistotally07:49
Bog_what do you mean it has appletv streaming?07:49
darthanubisI'm setting up zoneminder security systems07:49
darthanubisI'm sorry07:49
darthanubisapple trailers07:50
Bog_ahhh07:50
darthanubisnot actual full length movies07:50
Bog_I love atv as an extender and media playback device07:50
Bog_I dont think anything compares07:50
Bog_it's quiet, small and looks uber sexy07:51
Dar1usAny suggestions why myth isn't saving the frequency data properly?08:39
Dar1usI get the channel list but it keeps saying it can't tune to 0Hz (unsurprisingly :)08:39
|DuReX|I have a channels.conf09:34
|DuReX|how do I get it in mythtv ? :s09:35
famicombackend setup09:35
|DuReX|cause scan for channel seems to be unavailible in mythtv :s09:35
famicomvideo sources09:35
famicomand then add channel.conf09:35
|DuReX|don't see how u can add channels.conf there :(09:36
|DuReX|'Scan channel' is just not availible :(09:48
|DuReX|its grey09:48
|DuReX|can't click09:48
|DuReX|any id ?09:48
|DuReX|mm10:12
|DuReX|got channels imported now :p10:12
|DuReX|but can't view channel yet10:14
|DuReX|gives me NO-LOCK ... :s10:14
Siliciumhi there12:39
Siliciumi cant access to the mythbuntu webfronted,there says, no backend found12:39
Siliciumis default setup12:40
Seeker`is it safe to upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 by replacing "gutsy" with "hardy" in sources.lst and running apt-get dist-upgrade?12:44
SiliciumSeeker`: hardy is currently not stable12:45
Seeker`Silicium: I know it isn't stable12:45
Siliciumok :)12:46
Seeker`Silicium: I am running hardy on another box too12:46
Siliciumiam develop a pbx on hardy :)12:46
Seeker`Silicium: I was wondering if mythtv could cope with upgrading like that12:46
Kevin`how can I play a dvd directory (with video_ts and such) with mythvideo?12:47
Siliciumso, upgrading is a nice feature but i think is better you reinstall the system12:47
Seeker`I dont have my recordings on a seperate partition12:47
Siliciumok so, if you dont have done any self installed packages it coult be works ;)12:47
Siliciumoh12:47
keckhello!  anyone else having trouble retriving info from schedulesdirect?14:47
keckI just signed up as part of an initial myth install, and it's failing to retrieve anything from their server (webservices.schedulesdirect.tmsdatadirect.com)14:47
keckcommon problem?  ring any bells?14:48
keckhello!14:58
biohazdhyey guys15:00
biohazdI am trying to install 8.0415:00
biohazdit askes for admin pasword15:00
biohazdany idea what it is ?15:00
biohazdanyone know what the admin password is for 8.04 beta to install it ?15:07
Siliciumso15:08
ahavewhen using HDhomerun to watch liveTV, there is a thin row of scrambled noise at the top.. is this common?15:08
dcnoderunnerinstalling from cd or apt-get/update manager ?15:10
biohazdcd15:10
biohazddownloaded iso today15:10
dcnoderunneryou pick your own password, then once installed do admin functions through sudo.15:11
biohazdi thought so too15:11
biohazdwhen  i enetr a password is says invalid15:12
dcnoderunnerwhat you picked outside "acceptable characters" ??15:14
dcnoderunner.. just a guess ..15:14
biohazdhmm wierd15:15
biohazdnope still not working - very weird15:19
ahaveis there a way to setup the program guide info so that it is not so slow in the menu?15:31
dcnoderunnerI don't know, sorry. Mine asked for username (twice) then pwd and went right through.15:31
biohazdok let me try that15:33
biohazdi choose keymap at install screen - chnage from "us" to "uk"15:45
biohazdthe instaler fired up , but froze15:45
biohazdwill investigate further15:45
Bog_can nyone suggest a small and quiet pc for using myth?16:05
TelnetMantaGuys, I put mythbuntu on my usb stick, it boot and I can log in but I get stuck with no desktop and just a cursor.16:08
TelnetMantaThis is on a laptop...16:08
Bog_are there any myth STBs?16:09
ahaveanyone know of a good location to pick up a spdif optical header bracket?16:47
EvilGuruWhen I check the backend status in the frontend I get Tuner 3 is unavailable (/dev/video0)17:43
EvilGuruwhat could cause this?17:43
^Willie^morning18:52
dcnoderunnermorning18:52
^Willie^is any of you using mythtv with dvb-c or dvb-t cards ?18:54
dcnoderunnernope18:55
^Willie^:S18:55
^Willie^atleast an tv tuner ?18:55
dcnoderunnerYeah, but I'm not (back) up and running yet.18:55
^Willie^here in holland i have 3 options for watching tv via an media pc.. satalite, cable, dvb-t18:57
dthackerI use a cable tuner card18:57
^Willie^atm i/we have an dvb-c decoder from the cable profider but the do now wana give a second card or i must pay 2 bill`s each month :(18:57
^Willie^and i do like to watch "all" tv channels in the bedroom and living room .. thats why i wana use mythtv18:58
dcnoderunnerI thought dvb-t was cable... googling.. oh, it's broadcast over-the-air.18:58
^Willie^dvb-t is what the call digitenne in holland :)18:58
^Willie^anyway i`m not planning to pay an second bill ..18:59
dcnoderunnerSo are there dvb-c cards for computers?18:59
^Willie^jup18:59
^Willie^look at twinhan and pinacle cards19:00
^Willie^something else .. i can use mythtv as media player for mp3`s and stuff like that ?19:00
dcnoderunneryes19:00
^Willie^can it controll dvd burners :)19:01
^Willie^then i`ll be happy even without tv for the first 2 months :)19:01
dcnoderunnerYeah, there is a plugin or two for that, but I haven't gotten that far. :(19:03
dcnoderunnerAnyone know if you have to create profiles for both ubuntu forums and launchpad, or will the same profile work across both?19:04
^Willie^p2 2,4ghz 512mb ram with 160gb disk will be ok i guess ..19:04
^Willie^extra storage will be nfs/samba19:05
dcnoderunneryep19:06
tgm4883_laptopdcnoderunner, you need an account for both......well, you may be able to use openid19:07
dcnoderunnerThey're using openid!? That would be a good thing..19:08
tgm4883_laptopdcnoderunner, IIRC, launchpad beta testers can use openid19:11
tgm4883_laptopnot sure about the forums19:11
lime4x4running the hardy version of mythbuntu what is the proper way to delete files in the video folder?19:41
dcnoderunnerNot sure what's "proper", but deleting through MythWeb works.19:42
lime4x4would deleting thru ssh be ok?19:43
Khonshusure19:46
dcnoderunnerYes, but I don't know what command. You could remove the file, but would the mysql db 'know' it's been deleted? I just delete via mythweb so I know the rest of myth 'knows' it's deleted.19:46
lime4x4ok i just find doing things is alot easier thru a terminal19:49
mpontillolime4x4: if you're talking about the 'videos' directory and not the 'recordings' directory, I manipulate it all the time without touching the database. mythvideo rescans the directory when you go into the video manager. If you're asking about the 'recordings' directory, I don't know, but I wish mythtv had more command-line tools. Maybe they exist and I am just not aware of them.19:51
tgm4883_laptopdcnoderunner, how can you delete videos through mythweb?19:52
dcnoderunnersorry, I guess I meant "recordings". videos equaled recordings in my brain.19:53
ahavecan anyone help me setup a raid0 array?19:56
ahavei have already set it up with the onboard controller, i just cant get to mount (i think)19:56
lime4x4i'm talking about the video folder19:57
tgm4883_laptoplime4x4, yea you can delete them from the command line, then just rerun the video manager19:58
Khonshuwell video, you can do anyway you want.  so could recordings, but you'd have to delete something in the db.  all can be done from cli, but mucking around in the db is more that I want to do often.19:59
tgm4883_laptopahave, is it a hardware or software raid controller?19:59
Khonshuvideo, delete from ssh sure, and rescan collection19:59
Khonshurecordings, mythweb is my preference19:59
lime4x4ok thanks19:59
dcnoderunnerlime4x4: sorry20:00
ahavehello again tgm4883_laptop20:00
ahavei believe this would be hardware, being that my motherboard will be doing the work20:00
tgm4883_laptopwhat motherboard?20:01
ahavebiostar 705020:02
lime4x4sorry for what?20:02
dcnoderunnerleading you the other way when I thought you meant recordings.20:04
lime4x4no problem..20:05
tgm4883_laptop!fakeraid20:05
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto20:05
ahavethanks20:06
ahaveso this would be a hardware raid, correct?20:06
tgm4883_laptopahave, actually, it's not really hardware raid20:07
tgm4883_laptopas the OS will be the one that is doing the work20:07
ahaveoh20:07
ahaveah, yes. ok20:07
tgm4883_laptopwhat are the drives showing up as right now?20:07
ahaveidk how to check20:08
tgm4883_laptopgutsy or hardy?20:08
ahave7.1020:08
ahavegutsy20:08
tgm4883_laptopk20:09
tgm4883_laptop.20.2?20:09
ahaveidk. how can i check?20:09
tgm4883_laptopsorry, what version of mythtv?20:10
ahave.20 i think. but how can i check to be sure?20:11
tgm4883_laptopapt-cache show mythtv | grep Version20:13
ahave.21.0 is the highest i see20:13
tgm4883_laptopk20:14
tgm4883_laptopso you really don't even need raid020:14
ahavehmm. why do you say that?20:14
tgm4883_laptopstorage groups20:14
tgm4883_laptopahave, unless you wanted a raid mirror20:15
tgm4883_laptopwhich isn't raid020:15
ahavewouldnt raid0 be faster?20:17
tgm4883_laptopahave, well since it's not really raid20:20
ahavehmm20:24
ahavei guess i will remove the raid then20:25
tgm4883_laptopanother thing to remember with raid0, is that IIRC, if you lose one drive you lose everything (on all drives in the array)20:26
ahaveyup20:27
ahavei think i will just use single drives then20:28
ahavei am not needing any mirroring of data20:28
ahaveif i am wanting to share the data with a windows system, whay file system type would you recomend?20:30
ahavefat32?20:30
tgm4883_laptopfor your recordings20:32
ahavefor recordings, music, .iso, etc   all my media20:34
tgm4883_laptopuse XFS20:38
tgm4883_laptopthen use samba to share with the windows systems20:38
ahavewhat if i want to access it on a dual boot?20:39
famicom_is it just me20:48
famicom_or has a new ubuntu release just come out20:48
dcnoderunnerUS mirros still list 8.04 as beta20:53
tgm4883_laptopdcnoderunner, 8.04 is still beta21:03
tgm4883_laptopahave, then you would need something like fat32 or ntfs21:03
tgm4883_laptopfamicom, 8.04 comes out 4-24-0821:03
ahavetgm4883_laptop, ok. thanks. how much of a performance drop will there be by not using XFS?21:04
tgm4883_laptopahave, well the real issue that you will have is the file size limitation of fat3221:06
tgm4883_laptopi'm not sure about the performance difference between the 321:07
ahaveah, but what if i use ntfs?21:07
ahaveare there any filesize limitations?21:07
tgm4883_laptopyea, but you probably won't reach them21:08
ahaveok21:08
ahaveubuntu should auto mount any ntfs partitions if finds, correct?/21:08
ahavei can not seem to find my newly partitioned ntfs hard drives21:08
tgm4883_laptophmm21:09
tgm4883_laptopi'm not sure it does in gutsy21:09
tgm4883_laptopsec21:09
ahaveit should be under /media right?21:09
ahave"Ubuntu 7.10 comes with an NTFS driver and mounts NTFS partitions by default."21:10
tgm4883_laptophmm, yea it should automount it then in /media21:11
ahavei do not see a sda1 or sda221:11
ahaveonly cdrom cdrom0 hda121:11
ahavehda1 is my windows boot partition21:12
tgm4883_laptopk21:12
ahavelet me know if you have any ideas21:13
ahaveDIL, i can not see them under /media21:26
ahaveDIL, I can see other NTFS drives however21:27
ahaveDIL, and gparted was able to see them (which is how i partitioned them)21:27
ahaveerr, sorry21:28
Kevin`can I have mythtv transcode digital tv signals to something with a lower bit rate real time for live tv?21:41
ahaveis there any reason why i can not access SATA drives in mythbuntu?21:45
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Kevin`ahave proably there is, but sata works for me21:54
tgm4883_laptopKevin`, for what?  A lower power frontend?22:18
SoulBladehas anybody compiled mythtv for ubuntu?22:18
Kevin`tgm4883_laptop it's too high bandwidth for (my) wireless22:18
Kevin`SoulBlade yes.22:18
tgm4883_laptopKevin`, AFAIK, not for live tv22:19
SoulBladeim having some issues22:19
tgm4883_laptopyou may be able to do it for recorded though22:19
SoulBlademy error is in httprequest.cpp - BufferedSocketDevice has no member SocketDevice22:19
Kevin`it works fine for recorded22:19
tgm4883_laptopSoulBlade, is there any specific reason you are compiling from source?22:19
SoulBladethere are issues regarding QString as well22:19
SoulBladeyes - i need the .21 fixes release because .21 broke support for nvidia-glx-legacy22:19
SoulBladei could just downgrade, but i figured this would be a decent exercise being a bit of a linux newb22:20
tgm4883_laptopSoulBlade, are you on gutsy?22:20
SoulBladei installed mythbuntu initially - is that gutsy22:20
SoulBladethats another thing - i have no idea what gutsy, edgy, or hardy is22:21
tgm4883_laptopit's the codename for the release22:21
tgm4883_laptopie, hardy is 8.04, gutsy is 7.1022:21
SoulBladeah ok22:21
SoulBladegutsy22:21
SoulBladewell gutsy is what i installed - though i installed a bunch of software updates - not sure if that moved me up to hardy22:22
weiserHey, does anybody have a video stream they know work with FREEBOX IPTV, just so I can test if its my source or HTPC cousing the problems?22:22
tgm4883_laptopSoulBlade, there will be another backport from .21-fixes, but not until hardy is finished (apr 24, 2008)22:22
SoulBladeok - whats the easiest way for me to just downgrade back to .222:22
SoulBlade.2022:22
dcnoderunnerHow can I reset Apport's 'don't pop up when xyz app crashes anymore' so that it does pop up?22:37
ahaveany chance gutsy does not support sata2?22:38
SoulBladewhy is it that when i tell the synaptics package manager to force version to .20.2 on mythtv-frontend it flashes 20.2 and then reverts back to .21 before i can install it?22:39

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