| zoredache | ok | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| Iskr | anyway | 00:00 |
| TheSheep | Iskr: you have pretty bad luck | 00:01 |
| Iskr | why? | 00:01 |
| zoredache | that is the eternal questio isn't it | 00:01 |
| TheSheep | Iskr: first aptitude, then you stumle on that i810 bug | 00:01 |
| Iskr | (how can i disable sound on login screen?) | 00:01 |
| Iskr | TheSheep, oh yes | 00:01 |
| Iskr | and you don't know | 00:01 |
| Iskr | all the other problems | 00:02 |
| TheSheep | Iskr: setings->login window settings | 00:02 |
| Iskr | during the installation | 00:02 |
| Iskr | then xfce has this nasty thing | 00:02 |
| Iskr | of setting windows not properly sized | 00:02 |
| TheSheep | Oo) | 00:02 |
| Iskr | have you ever noticed it? | 00:02 |
| Iskr | even if i maximize | 00:02 |
| TheSheep | no? | 00:02 |
| Iskr | it just doesn't seem to know how to stand on top of panel | 00:03 |
| TheSheep | try the margins in workspace and margins settings | 00:03 |
| Iskr | i'll try thanks | 00:04 |
| TheSheep | but it should never cover panels if they have 'fixed' position | 00:04 |
| Iskr | yes panel are fixed | 00:04 |
| Iskr | and it doesn't cover the panel | 00:04 |
| Iskr | is the panel that is up | 00:04 |
| TheSheep | that's good | 00:04 |
| Iskr | covering the window | 00:05 |
| TheSheep | that's no good | 00:05 |
| Iskr | it isn't | 00:05 |
| TheSheep | works for me :/ | 00:06 |
| TheSheep | are you sure the top panel is fixed too? | 00:06 |
| Iskr | i have no top panel | 00:06 |
| Iskr | i removed it | 00:06 |
| Iskr | i have only the bottom one that is fixed | 00:06 |
| Iskr | anyway just for the record | 00:06 |
| Iskr | xfce seems to work quite well | 00:07 |
| Iskr | with a 128 mb ram system | 00:07 |
| TheSheep | ah, it's the eee | 00:07 |
| Iskr | now i'll tell you also what percentage of ram is required by the desktop environment alone | 00:08 |
| Iskr | The-Sheep? | 00:08 |
| Iskr | pardon | 00:08 |
| Iskr | TheSheep, ? | 00:08 |
| TheSheep | I was considering buing eee for some time | 00:08 |
| Iskr | eee=eeepc? | 00:08 |
| TheSheep | asus eee | 00:08 |
| TheSheep | no? | 00:08 |
| Iskr | no it isn't | 00:08 |
| Iskr | it's an acer travelmate | 00:09 |
| Iskr | 612t | 00:09 |
| TheSheep | ok | 00:09 |
| Iskr | tx | 00:09 |
| TheSheep | right, eee wouldn't use i810 :) | 00:09 |
| TheSheep | I thin I got you confused with Taza | 00:09 |
| Iskr | the desktop environment alone | 00:10 |
| Iskr | uses 40% of ram | 00:10 |
| Iskr | and 10% of swap | 00:10 |
| Taza | My Eee has 2gb of RAM btw. :P | 00:10 |
| TheSheep | Taza: just like the lappy I bought finally instead of eee :) | 00:10 |
| Taza | RAM is the only part that's both easily upgradeable and cheap | 00:10 |
| TheSheep | Taza: out of curiosity, I've heard that part of the eee's disk is read only? | 00:11 |
| TheSheep | Taza: is that true? | 00:11 |
| Taza | TheSheep: Depends on which model you get. | 00:11 |
| Taza | The SDHC card reader operates in read-only mode for some models. | 00:12 |
| Taza | The internal disk is always fully usable | 00:12 |
| Taza | And you can write the SDHC fine with an external reader | 00:12 |
| TheSheep | Taza: ah, great, I've heard somewhere that the system part was read only, so if you wanted to install your own system you had to do it at the cost of your home | 00:13 |
| Taza | TheSheep: No problem whatsoever as long as you wipe the disk first | 00:13 |
| TheSheep | I see | 00:13 |
| Taza | As in, repartition | 00:13 |
| TheSheep | Taza: isn't the screen too small? how about the keyboard? | 00:14 |
| Taza | The original partitions are like that but fdisk fixes that in ten seconds | 00:14 |
| Taza | The screen is a bit too small, the keyboard is just fine | 00:14 |
| TheSheep | I've read in Humane Interface that 9" is actually optimal for reading | 00:14 |
| Taza | It could be larger sure | 00:14 |
| TheSheep | ee is 7", I think | 00:15 |
| Taza | But I got one now because something better is always waiting behind the corner. | 00:15 |
| Iskr | is "add/remove" the same thing of synaptic? | 00:15 |
| Iskr | or it's another apt-get vs aptitude issue? | 00:15 |
| TheSheep | Iskr: yes, just with nicer descriptions and icons | 00:15 |
| TheSheep | Iskr: all ubuntu gui tools use synaptic | 00:15 |
| Iskr | thanks | 00:16 |
| Iskr | well i just can't believe | 00:16 |
| Iskr | that it installed gnome | 00:17 |
| Iskr | who told it to do that? | 00:17 |
| TheSheep | it probably had some gnome app in recommendations for something | 00:17 |
| TheSheep | be glad it's not kde | 00:17 |
| Iskr | well some gnome app | 00:17 |
| Iskr | not ALL GNOME | 00:17 |
| Iskr | i want xfce and it installs xfce AND gnome O.o | 00:18 |
| TheSheep | well, the app would depend on gnome ibs that would then have rest of gnome in recommendations... | 00:18 |
| Iskr | i see... | 00:18 |
| TheSheep | yay, starting xawtv crashes my X :D | 00:19 |
| Iskr | lol | 00:20 |
| Jimbo_ | I just tried the 8.04 beta. I wish I had read up a bit more before hand because I dunno if the stuff that dont work is a bug or just something thats not gotten finsihed yet | 00:22 |
| TheSheep | Jimbo_: what doesn't work? | 00:23 |
| TheSheep | Jimbo_: it's a beta, everythin should work generally | 00:23 |
| Jimbo_ | it wont mount my windows partitions like 7.10 did automatically | 00:24 |
| TheSheep | can you mount them manually? | 00:25 |
| Jimbo_ | thunar wouldnt show any video thumbnails after i installed the codecs | 00:25 |
| Jimbo_ | the windows partitions arent showing up at all, so i dont know how to go mount them, its not like they are on the desktop but not mounted | 00:26 |
| TheSheep | sounds like bugs | 00:27 |
| Jimbo_ | that sucks | 00:31 |
| Jimbo_ | is there nothing i should try to get them to show up? | 00:31 |
| danielm | Jimbo_, did you set the mount points at install? | 00:32 |
| TheSheep | !ntfs | 00:32 |
| ubotu | To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE | 00:32 |
| Jimbo_ | hehe well... im just running the livecd at the moment, if thats what you mean by install. Does that make a difference? :-P | 00:33 |
| Jimbo_ | ooooh... I just ran Gparted and it made the partitions mount | 00:35 |
| Iskr | why can't i resize windows from the top? | 00:38 |
| TheSheep | Iskr: that's a feature, so that you can grab them for moving easier, can't be disabled | 00:39 |
| Iskr | yes but the margin thing didn't work | 00:39 |
| TheSheep | oh? | 00:39 |
| Iskr | so i have many windows which go down and down | 00:39 |
| Iskr | and i can't access some options | 00:39 |
| TheSheep | you can use keyboard shortcuts | 00:39 |
| Iskr | such as? | 00:39 |
| TheSheep | alt+ctrl+down for resizing vertically, I think | 00:39 |
| TheSheep | andalt+ctrl+up | 00:40 |
| Iskr | no | 00:40 |
| Iskr | it changes workspace | 00:40 |
| TheSheep | maybe there is also shift in there, you can check the shortcuts in the window manager settings | 00:40 |
| Iskr | yes | 00:40 |
| Iskr | i'll see | 00:40 |
| Iskr | thanks | 00:40 |
| TheSheep | I use different, can't remember the defaults | 00:40 |
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| Iskr | it doesn't work | 00:43 |
| Iskr | it's like it can't be resized more | 00:43 |
| Iskr | it need all the space | 00:44 |
| TheSheep | Iskr: maybe fix the resolution first | 00:44 |
| Iskr | already tried | 00:44 |
| TheSheep | :/ | 00:44 |
| Iskr | it seems that i must keep this | 00:44 |
| TheSheep | the i810 doesn't have its own video memory | 00:44 |
| TheSheep | it uses memory "borrowed" from your RAM | 00:44 |
| Iskr | yes | 00:44 |
| TheSheep | the amount of memory to borrow can be set in bios | 00:45 |
| TheSheep | try setting it to more | 00:45 |
| Iskr | i'll try | 00:45 |
| TheSheep | (windows drivers ignore that setting and override it, btw, that's why it works on windows) | 00:45 |
| Iskr | the margins thing really doesn't work | 00:46 |
| Iskr | by no means | 00:46 |
| TheSheep | can't say I can repeat your problems here | 00:47 |
| TheSheep | then again I use hardy and the 'intel' driver | 00:47 |
| Iskr | well do you know if there is a way to let the window go "up the screen"? | 00:48 |
| Iskr | it goes down left and right | 00:48 |
| Iskr | but not up | 00:48 |
| TheSheep | there isn't | 00:49 |
| Iskr | -.- | 00:49 |
| danielm | ... | 00:50 |
| TheSheep | you could set the virtual screen to be larger than the physical screen | 00:50 |
| TheSheep | then it will scroll | 00:50 |
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| Gokee2_Office | I installed lightning-extension but can`t find it anywhere in thunderbird. How do I use it? I am on Xubuntu 7.1 | 02:54 |
| Gokee2_Office | I got .8 from mozilla and now it works | 03:20 |
| Gokee2_Office | Thanks for... listening? :) | 03:20 |
| Gokee2_Office | Hmm I guess its not working... There are two bars one with the calender stuff and one with email folders | 03:23 |
| AlgorithmicContr | How do you restart XFCE desktop? | 05:07 |
| Gokee2_Office | Ctr+Alt+Backspace kills xorg | 05:08 |
| AlgorithmicContr | Gokee2_Office: I didn't ask for killing xserver | 05:09 |
| Gokee2_Office | AlgorithmicContr, So what did you want? | 05:09 |
| AlgorithmicContr | well, my Icons for XFCE disappeard, and Desktop background etc etc | 05:10 |
| Gokee2_Office | Logout/Login restarts XFCE (although I always use Ctr+Alt+Backspace.....) | 05:10 |
| Gokee2_Office | O you want just the desktop part? | 05:11 |
| Gokee2_Office | xfdesktop should do that | 05:12 |
| Gokee2_Office | So you might want "xfdesktop -reload"? :) | 05:12 |
| AlgorithmicContr | oh | 05:13 |
| AlgorithmicContr | maybe | 05:13 |
| AlgorithmicContr | Gokee2_Office: How do you do that for gnome? | 05:13 |
| Gokee2_Office | I don`t know, I use gnome as little as I can get away with :) | 05:14 |
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| redwhitewaldo | which version of flash should i install. Firefox is giving me these 2 options: gnash and adobe. | 06:06 |
| redwhitewaldo | i'm on xubuntu 8.04beta | 06:06 |
| redwhitewaldo | how come firefox doesn't know what programs are the default file openers? | 06:22 |
| redwhitewaldo | (i'm on xubuntu8.04) | 06:23 |
| miggilin | Anyone there? | 07:47 |
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| redwhitewaldo | where's everybody? | 08:19 |
| zoredache | asleep | 08:20 |
| zoredache | !night | 08:20 |
| ubotu | It's the middle of the night in the US and Europe, and surrounds. This means that a lot of people are likely asleep, therefore there are less potential people who can answer your question. Please be patient, and consider asking at a time when more people will be awake. This is particularly true in the quieter channels. | 08:20 |
| miggilinme | Hello? | 08:24 |
| miggilinme | Anyone there? | 08:24 |
| jjjj5555 | hi there | 08:28 |
| jjjj5555 | what do I kneed to do to restart my whole soundsystem.... except rebooting ;-) | 08:28 |
| redwhitewaldo | what were those programs again like "workrave" | 08:44 |
| redwhitewaldo | ? | 08:44 |
| redwhitewaldo | i'm in xubuntu 8.04. what's that circular icon one "square" right to the upper left corner (on title bar) | 08:52 |
| ere4si | it's the help icon - click it and see | 08:53 |
| jjjj5555 | workrave is a program that reminds you to take a break | 08:56 |
| ere4si | sorry - you were talking about the window titlebar - it adds the window to other desktops redwhitewaldo | 08:57 |
| redwhitewaldo | ere4si: i see. thank you!!! | 08:58 |
| ere4si | k | 08:58 |
| Dennis | hey there everybody ;-) | 10:16 |
| ere4si | !hi | 10:16 |
| ubotu | Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! | 10:16 |
| Dennis | thx | 10:16 |
| jjjj5555 | hey | 10:16 |
| Dennis | is there someone here who can help me a bit with xubuntu and network configuration? | 10:16 |
| Dennis | i have a problem on a router with 7 network interfaces | 10:17 |
| ere4si | and what doesn't happen? | 10:17 |
| Dennis | well, to me it seems as if the assignment of ethX to the physical network card changes randomly with every reboot of the system | 10:18 |
| Dennis | as i said there are 7 network cards, however, only over one access to the internet is possible | 10:19 |
| Dennis | as i detected by try&error, i got internet by configuring eth2 - everything worked fine until next reboot | 10:20 |
| Dennis | after that reboot i did not have internet access anymore | 10:20 |
| ere4si | if you use dhcp then the first comp to boot gets the first address - try static ip addresses | 10:20 |
| Dennis | so again i did that try&error thing and ended up having internet access by configuring eth1 | 10:20 |
| jjjj5555 | can i drag and drop in xubuntu filemanager? | 10:21 |
| Dennis | i am not using dhcp, all network interfaces are configured staticly | 10:21 |
| ere4si | hmmm | 10:22 |
| ere4si | jjjj5555: yep | 10:22 |
| ere4si | Dennis: is it 7 network cards in one comp? | 10:24 |
| Dennis | ere4si, yes 7 cards in one computer | 10:25 |
| jjjj5555 | thanks, cu all | 10:26 |
| ere4si | Dennis: how are the cards listed in /etc/hosts | 10:26 |
| Dennis | ere4si, not at all i guess (I'm not at that router right now) - do they have to be? | 10:27 |
| ere4si | Dennis: /etc/hosts is a file on the comp - it shows the connections allowed | 10:28 |
| slimjimflim | hi. my volume control button disappeared after the last update, and now i can't add a new one, anybody know the package name? | 10:29 |
| Dennis | isn't /etc/hosts just for local dns resolving? | 10:29 |
| Dennis | probably this might give you an idea, ere4si: | 10:30 |
| Dennis | root@Router:/etc/network# route -n | 10:30 |
| Dennis | Kernel IP routing table | 10:30 |
| Dennis | Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface | 10:30 |
| Dennis | 10.6.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth6 | 10:30 |
| Dennis | 10.7.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 | 10:30 |
| Dennis | 169.254.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 | 10:30 |
| Dennis | 169.254.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 1000 0 0 eth0 | 10:30 |
| Dennis | 0.0.0.0 10.6.0.2 0.0.0.0 UG 100 0 0 eth6 | 10:31 |
| Dennis | 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 U 1000 0 0 eth1 | 10:31 |
| Dennis | ere4si this is not the latest output, but i always have to default routes at the end of the listing which seems weird to me... | 10:31 |
| ere4si | Dennis: 7 cards - one comp - is new to me - sorry | 10:32 |
| Dennis | ok ere4si, thanks anyways ;) | 10:35 |
| slimjimflim | also, my sound doesn't work on embedded flash, should i just reinstall the soundcard driver? | 10:38 |
| slimjimflim | anybody have issues w/ audio on flash movies not working after the last update? | 10:48 |
| Dennis | anybody here, who has experiences with several network cards in one computer? | 10:50 |
| slimjimflim | dennis, shoot | 10:51 |
| Dennis | hm? | 10:52 |
| slimjimflim | by shoot, i mean, ask me your question | 10:52 |
| Dennis | oh, ok :) | 10:52 |
| Dennis | seems like the assignment of ethX to the physical network cards is randomly changing with every reboot... could that be? | 10:53 |
| slimjimflim | hmm | 10:53 |
| Dennis | i have a router with 7 network cards, only one has internet access... i was able to get internet access by configuring eth2... after reboot i got internet access by configuring eth1 | 10:54 |
| Dennis | weird, isn't it? ;-) | 10:54 |
| slimjimflim | yea | 10:54 |
| slimjimflim | did you try taking them all out but one? | 10:54 |
| slimjimflim | to see if it still does it? | 10:55 |
| Dennis | no i didn't... | 10:55 |
| slimjimflim | not sure if that'll help | 10:56 |
| Dennis | would be a hard work though as i'd have to get the computer out of the rack first | 10:56 |
| slimjimflim | yea | 10:56 |
| slimjimflim | that's a pretty tough question | 10:57 |
| slimjimflim | dennis, why don't you ask the friendly folks in ##linkux-coders | 10:59 |
| slimjimflim | i'm sure somebody knows | 10:59 |
| Dennis | i hat tried ubuntu first and did not have those problems there... however, ubuntu was real slow, even though the router has a 3Gz pentium 4 processor and 1 GB ram | 10:59 |
| Dennis | xubuntu was much faster... the boot-process as well as the gui | 10:59 |
| slimjimflim | definitely | 11:00 |
| Dennis | there is nobody in #linkux-coders, as well as in #linux-coders ;-) | 11:00 |
| slimjimflim | you need 2 #'s | 11:01 |
| slimjimflim | ##linux-coders | 11:01 |
| Dennis | oh thx... never seen that before... | 11:03 |
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| bassinboy | why isn't apache in the repositories by default? | 12:22 |
| bassinboy | well it works via CLI | 12:24 |
| siggjen | apache2 is in the repository | 12:25 |
| bassinboy | why is it not searchable? | 12:30 |
| siggjen | «apt-cache search apache» give me lots of hits | 12:31 |
| bassinboy | just wonder via gui | 12:32 |
| siggjen | sorry, i never use the gui for installing packages | 12:32 |
| bassinboy | k, thanks | 12:33 |
| Iskr | i managed to reach 1024x768 \o/ | 15:28 |
| TheSheep | Iskr: how? | 15:44 |
| Iskr | i told to xorg to use 16mb of ram for the video card | 15:44 |
| TheSheep | :) | 15:45 |
| Iskr | uhm | 15:46 |
| Iskr | it didn't go in suspension | 15:46 |
| Iskr | any idea? | 15:46 |
| TheSheep | it doesn't work on some hardware, but I don't know what could be tried to make it work | 15:47 |
| TheSheep | maybe forums... | 15:47 |
| Iskr | ok | 15:51 |
| Iskr | np | 15:51 |
| Iskr | (hybernate seems to work) | 15:53 |
| jarnos | Hello. I just installed Xubuntu Hardy Beta | 19:25 |
| j1mc | hi | 19:25 |
| jarnos | There was "Screens and Graphics" in Other menu. | 19:25 |
| j1mc | ok | 19:25 |
| jarnos | It disappeared. | 19:26 |
| j1mc | jarnos: would you mind filing a bug? | 19:27 |
| j1mc | do you have an account on launchpad? | 19:27 |
| jarnos | jlmc: I guess I could. I have reported some even today, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/~jarnos | 19:28 |
| j1mc | jarnos: thanks. :) | 19:29 |
| j1mc | (i'm at a conference or else i would comment more) | 19:29 |
| Iskr | i think that the minimum requirements page should be modified | 19:53 |
| Iskr | on a pIII 900 mhz with 128 mb of ram (of which 16 to the video card) xfce run smoothly | 19:53 |
| Iskr | i also use firefox without any problem | 19:53 |
| Iskr | it has just to be installed with the alternate ubuntu cd | 19:54 |
| TheSheep | Iskr: ymmv | 19:59 |
| TheSheep | Iskr: especially when people use mostly firefox and office apps | 19:59 |
| Iskr | well but on the site is written "192 mb" as _minimum requirement | 20:00 |
| TheSheep | that's minimum for livecd | 20:00 |
| Iskr | no | 20:00 |
| Iskr | Once installed, Xubuntu can run with 192 MB RAM, but it is strongly recommended to have at least 256 MB RAM. | 20:01 |
| TheSheep | anyways, did you disable cups, bluetooth etc.? | 20:01 |
| Iskr | no | 20:01 |
| Iskr | i didn't disable anything | 20:01 |
| TheSheep | Iskr: because peole have been complaining about slowness when these specs were lover | 20:01 |
| TheSheep | lower | 20:01 |
| Iskr | i don't think it installed bluetooth module anyway | 20:02 |
| TheSheep | it probably depends also on exact drivers used | 20:02 |
| Iskr | at least write "can run with 128-192 MB RAM" | 20:02 |
| TheSheep | some video drivers are pretty memory hungry | 20:02 |
| Iskr | i went on trying icewm and fluxbox | 20:02 |
| TheSheep | well, it can run with 32MB ram, I did it | 20:02 |
| TheSheep | startup takes 45 minutes, but it runs | 20:03 |
| Iskr | well but you did additional configuration | 20:03 |
| TheSheep | no | 20:03 |
| Iskr | and startup took 45 minutes | 20:03 |
| Iskr | in this case | 20:03 |
| Iskr | startup takes 5 minutes =P | 20:03 |
| TheSheep | the question is where to put the border | 20:03 |
| Iskr | or so | 20:03 |
| TheSheep | 5 minutes seems to be too long by today standards | 20:03 |
| Iskr | when you write minimal requirements the border should be as lower as possible | 20:03 |
| TheSheep | Iskr: I don't agree | 20:04 |
| Iskr | there is always the reccomended requirement | 20:04 |
| Iskr | to be realistic | 20:04 |
| TheSheep | Iskr: we had a lot of disappointed people here when the specs were lower | 20:04 |
| Iskr | was it 128? | 20:04 |
| TheSheep | yes | 20:04 |
| Iskr | i wonder why these people were so disappointed... | 20:05 |
| Iskr | maybe they didn't reserve enough swap | 20:05 |
| TheSheep | because they got some old computers assembled from parts and went by the minimum to minimize costs | 20:06 |
| Iskr | well i'm still convinced that you should | 20:06 |
| Iskr | but do as you like | 20:06 |
| Iskr | =) | 20:06 |
| TheSheep | it's like "ok, I have 512MB of ram in old chips here, I can make 4 computers with xubuntu out of it" | 20:06 |
| TheSheep | it's not my decission :) | 20:07 |
| TheSheep | I'm just an user | 20:07 |
| nikolam | I used to use 32-bit Xubuntu 7.04 on P3-733 with 384 MB ram with no trouble at all. | 20:07 |
| TheSheep | but I agree with this decission | 20:07 |
| nikolam | after start and login, about 90MB`s would be used | 20:07 |
| Iskr | well 384 mb are a whole lot | 20:07 |
| nikolam | That us the reason for 128Mb minimum | 20:07 |
| TheSheep | nikolam: yeah, above te 256MB limit there seem to be no problems | 20:07 |
| nikolam | I think that 256Mb is also plenty of space | 20:08 |
| TheSheep | with 192MB you sometimes get no panels at startup | 20:08 |
| Iskr | panels? | 20:08 |
| nikolam | and 192 should work | 20:08 |
| TheSheep | Iskr: the thing that xfce4-panel displays | 20:08 |
| Iskr | yes | 20:08 |
| Iskr | but it's weird | 20:08 |
| Iskr | you are making me dubitate if i actually have 128 mb... | 20:09 |
| Iskr | but i have | 20:09 |
| Iskr | i checked it twice | 20:09 |
| TheSheep | I have 2GB and the system takes 70MB just after startup | 20:09 |
| Iskr | the funny thing is that this "To run the Desktop CD (LiveCD + Install CD), you need 128 MB RAM to run" is not true to me | 20:09 |
| Iskr | livecd didn't run | 20:10 |
| nikolam | fastest desktop linux i heard of , that includes xfce as default environment is Zenwalk. | 20:10 |
| TheSheep | Iskr: it says 128? that's wrong | 20:10 |
| TheSheep | Iskr: maybe the figures are swapped? | 20:10 |
| Iskr | eheh | 20:10 |
| Iskr | maybe | 20:10 |
| nikolam | Xubuntu is nice thing and I think it is worth | 20:10 |
| Iskr | someone should modify those information | 20:10 |
| TheSheep | maxamillion: you have access to the site? | 20:11 |
| nikolam | Maybe you are running 8.04 Beta? | 20:11 |
| Iskr | nono | 20:11 |
| nikolam | what graphics driver do you use, what graphics? | 20:12 |
| maxamillion | TheSheep: yeah | 20:12 |
| maxamillion | TheSheep: i thought you did too | 20:12 |
| Iskr | nikolam, i don't know =) | 20:12 |
| TheSheep | Iskr: ah, no, it's ok, it says 192MB to install | 20:12 |
| Iskr | yes | 20:12 |
| Iskr | but 128 to run | 20:12 |
| Iskr | and it didn't work for me | 20:12 |
| TheSheep | Iskr: I did run it on 128MB :/ | 20:12 |
| nikolam | lspci | 20:12 |
| Iskr | eheh | 20:12 |
| TheSheep | Iskr: again, YMMV | 20:12 |
| Iskr | yes | 20:12 |
| TheSheep | nikolam: PCI not found, Abort, Retry, Ignore? | 20:13 |
| nikolam | Maybe your graphics card took some ram from your main 128mb | 20:13 |
| nikolam | The-Kernel, LOL :)))) | 20:13 |
| Iskr | nikolam well it takes ram now | 20:13 |
| nikolam | TheSheep, :)) | 20:13 |
| nikolam | sorry | 20:13 |
| Iskr | 16 mb | 20:13 |
| nikolam | well, try to install from Alternate CD. | 20:14 |
| TheSheep | Iskr: the deal is this: we set the specs too high and we lose some people with old hardware who will go install different distro instead | 20:14 |
| Iskr | nikolam, you didn't understand | 20:14 |
| TheSheep | Iskr: we set the specs too low and we get some disappointed people who will badmouth xubuntu | 20:14 |
| nikolam | Alternate CD install could be done even from 64MB machine | 20:14 |
| Iskr | nikolam, i actually installed from alternate cd | 20:14 |
| Iskr | and it works _very_ fine | 20:14 |
| Iskr | so i was suggesting | 20:14 |
| nikolam | 7.10 xubuntu 32-bit? | 20:14 |
| Iskr | yes | 20:14 |
| nikolam | aha.. | 20:14 |
| Iskr | i was suggesting to lower minimum requirements | 20:15 |
| nikolam | I don`t think that is good idea | 20:15 |
| TheSheep | Iskr: people tend to be "optimistic" :) | 20:15 |
| nikolam | people will use slower machines anyway | 20:15 |
| Iskr | eheh i am not optimistic | 20:15 |
| Iskr | as i said before i first installed icewm and fluxbox | 20:16 |
| Iskr | then as i didn't cope well with them | 20:16 |
| TheSheep | Iskr: if we give high specs, and people will try it on lower anyways, and it's slow, they will say "ok, I guess it's slow because of the hardware" | 20:16 |
| Iskr | anyway i'll stay here | 20:18 |
| Iskr | to give all the people who will ask | 20:18 |
| Iskr | the advice to install xubuntu on 128 mb ram boxes =P | 20:18 |
| Iskr | it's really a shame that the livecd cannot be used to perform a simple installation | 20:19 |
| Iskr | it's particularly valid for xubuntu | 20:19 |
| Iskr | that you all know that is often used in low mem machines | 20:20 |
| The-Kernel | Why does that always happen to me | 20:46 |
| Chawson | omg.. i figured out how to use windows live messenger on xubuntu! | 21:49 |
| Chawson | does any1 want me to explain how to do it? | 21:51 |
| crimsun | it'd be better documented on a wiki page. | 21:52 |
| Chawson | i didnt ask where would it be better documented sorry, i asked would anyone like advice? | 21:52 |
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| mnemoc | hi, there is any firefox plugin (at 8.04) that fakes windows media player? (autodetection on sites) | 22:54 |
| mnemoc | vlc didn't :\ | 22:54 |
| siggjen | you might try mplayer | 22:54 |
| mnemoc | thanks | 22:54 |
| Rorschach | I've got a problem with my external hard drive. It's a 500 gig SimpleDrive, but when I finally managed to mount it in Linux, it only gives me 1.3 gigs to work with. | 22:59 |
| Rorschach | Any idea what the problem is? | 22:59 |
| mnemoc | Rorschach: how is it partitioned? | 23:02 |
| Rorschach | mnemoc: it's NTFS | 23:09 |
| Rorschach | I mounted it with NTFS-3g | 23:09 |
| Rorschach | More external harddrive problems. I have trouble mounting it with ntfs-3g, and when I do manage to mount it, it only lets me use 1.3 gigs out of 500 gigs | 23:30 |
| mnemoc | Rorschach: see what `disktype` say about your disk | 23:32 |
| Rorschach | menmoc: 'disktype' doesn't work. Command not found | 23:33 |
| patoe1 | hey | 23:54 |
| patoe1 | i just installed Teamspeak 2 and i dont know how to open it | 23:54 |
| ere4si | patoe1: try this - http://www.goteamspeak.com/?page=getstarted | 23:57 |
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