[05:11] <amirman84> hi, everyone, i'm new to ubuntu and linux in general. i'm really digging this ubuntu 8.04 beta (except for no flash video) but i was wondering if edubuntu is good for a 2 1/2 year old?
[05:12] <amirman84> also is there anything that i can use to get him into learning the basics of programming when he gets a little older?
[05:13] <amirman84> i'm installing the gcompiz educational suite right now, tux paint, and kletters just to see if there's anything that can get his attention enough to really master using the mouse and keyboard
[05:14] <amirman84> but thats on ubuntu, i guess what i'm really wondering is how different is edubuntu from ubuntu other than the preinstalled packages and security stuff i'm guessing that is used for people who want to use it in schools
[05:17] <johnny> it's not much different
[05:17] <johnny> it will be an addon cd in the future, instead of a seperate release
[05:21] <amirman84> too bad, i see a real niche to be filled, an OS for young kids.
[05:22] <amirman84> 2,3,4 year olds
[05:23] <LaserJock> amirman84: Edubuntu has been used for children that young
[05:25] <LaserJock> it doesn't really matter whether you have Ubuntu or Edubuntu installed, but you can get more kid-friendly look from the Edubuntu artwork
[05:25] <LaserJock> and you have a disk that has educational software on it
[05:34] <amirman84> well, thanks
[07:36] <Muhammad_Saad> Hello, I am having trouble with gnome-ppp. Is there any dial-up user here who can help me?
[07:39] <Muhammad_Saad> I am having this error while connecting: "WvDial<Err>: Connected, but carrier signal lost!  Retrying..."
[07:40] <Muhammad_Saad> The strange thing is that I can connect to the internet using the Network Manager applet but cannot connect using gnome-ppp.
[07:49] <Muhammad_Saad> Does anyone know what is causing the problem?
[07:56] <Muhammad_Saad> Can someone at least tell me where else should I ask for help?
[17:43] <Muhammad_Saad> Hello, Can someone here help me with gnome-ppp?
[21:49] <keb> typo on page http://www.edubuntu.org/community   "Edubuntu Chile: The Edubuntu France team."
[22:03] <bimberi> keb: Thanks. You can file that bug here - https://bugs.launchpad.net/edubuntu-website/+filebug
[22:03] <keb> ok
[22:30] <styx27> good day everyone
[22:30] <keb> gday
[22:32] <styx27> i'm a noob... please bare with me...
[22:33] <keb> "bare"?
[22:34] <HedgeMage> I think styx27 means "bear"
[22:34] <styx27> sorry... it's 4am here.. i just woke up...
[22:34] <HedgeMage> np :)
[22:34] <styx27> ii meant bear
[22:34] <blue-frog> 4am could be bare
[22:36] <styx27> well, anyway i  have been asked to invest in a small private/nonprofit school (preschool and elementary) in my area and i was thinking of seting up a little computer lab with edubuntu
[22:37] <styx27> can i download the cookbook or handbook?
[22:39] <styx27> is there a encyclopedia for edubuntu?
[22:40] <blue-frog> edubuntu.org would be a good start I presume
[22:40] <blue-frog> dowwnloading and installing edubuntu would be self explanatory
[22:41] <keb> yep, get a live cd and try it :D
[22:42] <styx27> blue-frog: i was thinking more of documentation for the educational softwares that it comes with to help the teachers familiarize
[22:43] <blue-frog> styx27: what are they using as of now?
[22:43] <styx27> blue-frog: none, just regular textbooks,
[22:44] <blue-frog> is there a computer available overthere already or do you have a laptop?
[22:45] <styx27> there is no coputers there yet.. i will be getting the pc's from my friend who used to own an internet cafe
[22:45] <styx27> computers
[22:45] <blue-frog> https://wiki.edubuntu.org/HowToCookEdubuntu/Chapters
[22:46] <blue-frog> styx27: anyway if they have nothing right now, it will be as if they are entering the cavern of Ali Baba
[22:50] <styx27> i don't really quite understand what you're saying...
[22:53] <blue-frog> styx27: it comes loaded with educational softwares and you can install many more of them
[22:56] <styx27> blue-frog: that's what i want so that atleast i can help get the quality of education to get higher. i would need a sort of manual that explains how to use/make the most out of the eduacational softwares that come with it. and i need it to be viewable locally becasue the school does not have an internet connection and cound not yet justify the cost of getting one
[22:57] <blue-frog> styx27: do you have a laptop?
[22:57] <styx27> i have one
[22:58] <styx27> it's running unbunut 7.1 at the moment
[22:58] <blue-frog> oh well then you already have all you need to present them something
[22:58] <blue-frog> install edubuntu
[22:59] <blue-frog> in virtualbox for example