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nickrud!slow 00:47
ubotuThe Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of !Feisty. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.00:47
nickrud:)00:47
ompaul!slow is The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of the latest edition. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.00:47
ubotuBut slow already means something else!00:47
ompaul!no slow is <reply> The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of the latest edition. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.00:48
ubotuI'll remember that ompaul00:48
ompaulnickrud, now it never needs to be adapted again ;-)00:48
ompaul!torrents00:48
ubotuTorrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Gutsy: http://fr.releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ (CDs) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.10/release/ (DVDs) - Please download using the torrents if you can!00:48
nickrudyou are sooo good ;)00:48
ompaul!no torrents are <reply> Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. http://releases.ubuntu.com/ (CDs) (choose the highest numbers) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVDs) - Please download using the torrents if you can, spread the love!00:51
ompaul!no torrents are <reply> Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. http://releases.ubuntu.com/ (CDs) (choose the highest numbers) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVDs) - Please download using the torrents if you can.00:51
ompaulhmm why de bot no likey00:51
ompaul!no torrents are <reply> Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. http://releases.ubuntu.com/ \(CDs\) \(choose the highest numbers\) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVDs) - Please download using the torrents if you can.00:52
ompaul!no torrents are <reply> Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/ CDs or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases DVDs Please download using the torrents if you can.00:53
ompaulwhoami00:53
ompaulhah00:54
ompaul!whoami00:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about whoami - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:54
ompaul@whoami00:54
ubotuompaul00:54
ompaulhaha00:54
ompaul!torrents00:54
ubotuTorrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Gutsy: http://fr.releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ (CDs) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.10/release/ (DVDs) - Please download using the torrents if you can!00:54
ompaul!forget torrents00:54
ubotuI'll forget that, ompaul00:54
ompaul!torrents are <reply> Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/ CDs or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases DVDs Please download using the torrents if you can.00:55
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ompauldear me Seveas ^^ can you (A) add that factoid and (B) accept this as a possible bug report please00:55
LjLwhat's the problem00:56
LjL!unforget torrents00:56
ubotuI suddenly remember torrents again, LjL00:56
LjL!torrents00:56
ubotuTorrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Gutsy: http://fr.releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ (CDs) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.10/release/ (DVDs) - Please download using the torrents if you can!00:56
nickrudLjL 's magic wand restores lost memories. Lovely00:56
LjL!no torrents is <reply> Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD). Please download using the torrents if you can!00:57
ubotuI'll remember that LjL00:57
* ompaul gets confussed00:59
ompaulwhy did it fail on me?00:59
ompaulthe - ?00:59
LjLompaul, because "torrents are" is not the same as "torrents is"00:59
ompaulLjL, caught by my own grammar ....01:00
LjLwhat did she catch you doing?01:00
nickrudba da boom01:01
LjLnow,01:02
LjL!guishell01:02
ubotuSeveral "hybrid" GUI command line interfaces are in development, see: http://www.bterm.org/ - http://linux.pte.hu/~pipas/CUI/ - http://hotwire-shell.org/01:02
LjLfind me a KDE one like those. now.01:02
LjLif you can't find it, write it.01:02
nickrudkde developers have enough to do without adding new stuff01:05
LjLnickrud: i wish they wouldn't.01:09
LjLbut anyway, it's not like the stuff mentioned by ubotu is written by "GNOME developers"01:09
ompaul!xterm01:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xterm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:10
* ompaul goes old skool and gets clobbered for it01:10
nickrudLjL sory, it was justa chance to make fun of kde ;)01:12
nickrudoh, something like  xterm is a terminal emulation program, considered obsolete.01:13
ompaulnickrud, see 01:14
LjL!xterm is <reply> If with all the cute terminals that are around you're still using xterm, then you deserve any problem you're experiencing with it. Go away.01:15
ubotuI'll remember that, LjL01:15
nickrudmuch better than anything I could come up with01:15
ompaulnickrud, I have used these in real life: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zoslnctr/v1r7/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.znetwork.doc/znetwork_261.html01:19
ompaulnickrud,  a   looonnng time ago01:19
nickrudompaul I think I saw those around an ibm 360 once01:20
ompaulnickrud, that would be the right place for them01:20
nickrudplayed tic tac toe on it.01:21
ompaulnickrud, the keyboard did not move it was part of the main terminal01:21
ompaulnickrud, the heaviest terminal I ever went near01:21
nickrudompaul you forget how old I am. Separate keyboards were an innovation ;)01:22
ompaulnickrud, yeah I forgetz01:22
nickrud!xterm01:22
LjLor a step back?01:22
ubotuIf with all the cute terminals that are around you're still using xterm, then you deserve any problem you're experiencing with it. Go away.01:22
LjLmy a500+ was all in the keyboard, and i never regretted that01:22
nickrudthat is sooooo god01:22
nickrudgood*01:22
ompaulI have used vt100s 01:23
nickrudthose I've used, hooked up to an s100 bus z8001:23
nickrudit was something like $2500, with 32k ram and 8krom. I was in heaven01:24
ompaulnickrud, like all good computers of the day 01:33
* ompaul goes to the land of nod01:33
naliothnickrud: you and I and ompaul are of an older era01:42
nickrudyup. Sorta like blacksmiths who became mechanics01:42
LjLmeh01:43
LjLit's not like i haven't used computers with 32k ram and z80's01:43
LjLwell, it was a 64k ram and a 6502, but still :P01:44
nickrudso you had a model t, youngster :)01:45
LjLonly because i was l33t01:46
nickruddon't you ever sleep either ? must be like nearly 4am there01:47
LjLstill, my mom always tells me of when a bypasser was shocked overhearing my description of how some computers had a key called "Entew" while on others the same key was called "Wetuwn"01:47
LjLwhen i was 301:47
LjLnah it's not even 3am01:47
nickrudwhen I was 3, our tv's didn't even have remote controls. Then we got one of the first. Only problem was you couldn't jingle your keys in the same room, it changed the channel01:48
LjLnickrud: i know what you're talking about, but i don't think anyone here has ever seen those.01:48
LjLand, when i was 3, my tv was b/w01:49
LjLremote control, not really01:49
naliothnickrud: when you were 3, you _were_ the remote control01:49
nickrudyup01:49
LjLuhm when i was 3, i was the jingling keys changing channels when that wasn't desired01:49
nickrudfinally, dinner time. See you guys soon01:50
LjLerr... what should i make of this02:43
LjL[03:41:46] <Linux_Is_For_Gan> Hi, someone banned me, and I wanted to explain what happened to you, because I think it was an error [03:41:59] <LjL> join #ubuntu-ops and ask [03:42:08] <Linux_Is_For_Gan> ? [03:42:38] <Linux_Is_For_Gan> Well, I wanted to tell you about my ban, it was someone on my router. [03:42:55] <LjL> someone on your... router? [03:42:56] <Linux_Is_For_Gan> Someone on my router registered as [rocc], and I thought it was him or something.02:44
LjL [03:43:01] <Linux_Is_For_Gan> Yes, on my network, I mean. [03:43:08] <LjL> and why would someone be on your network? [03:43:23] <Linux_Is_For_Gan> Because it's not secured, while I'm configuring my computer for that.02:44
LjLi banned this guy (while he was using another nickname - two nicknames actually) because it seemed like he was impersonating [Rocc] and talking to his own clone.02:44
Linux_Is_For_GanHi, I wanted to say about my banning in #Ubuntu02:45
Linux_Is_For_GanI was on my network, which is unsecured, and someone else in my neighborhood must have connected to it, and started impersonating [rocc]. I know a few friends that would do that. I was talking to rocc, and I didn't know who it was, and I guess you guys thought it was me because my IP was the same or something.02:46
LjLLinux_Is_For_Gan: and how would your neighbors know that you were connected to #ubuntu?02:47
Linux_Is_For_GanBecause we were talking about ubuntu a lot lately, and we've een getting in to it. and It's possible it's coincidence.02:48
Linux_Is_For_GanIf I was them, I'd know.02:48
LjLwhy did you change your nickname to contact me? that doesn't make tracking what happened any easier02:48
Linux_Is_For_GanBecause my other one was banned02:49
Linux_Is_For_Ganand I didn't know if I'd be able to contact you on it.02:49
LjLso you were attempting to evade the ban?02:49
Linux_Is_For_GanNo, I was attempting to be able to talk to you to get it resolved.02:49
LjLyou get banned from channels, not from PM'ing02:49
Linux_Is_For_GanOh.02:49
Linux_Is_For_Ganwell, I'm new to IRC.02:49
=== jordan_ is now known as Jordan_U
LjLLinux_Is_For_Gan: even if your neighbors knew you were on #ubuntu, how would they know you were talking to [Rocc]?02:51
Linux_Is_For_GanBecause they know what my username is on ubuntuforums, and it was the same02:52
Linux_Is_For_Ganand I was talking to rocc from that?02:52
LjLare aliens also involved?02:52
Linux_Is_For_GanNo, they're not.02:52
LjLLinux_Is_For_Gan, you aren't *so* new to IRC, you've been here since march at least02:54
Linux_Is_For_GanNo I haven't.02:54
Linux_Is_For_GanI just made my account today.02:54
LjLone would figure you'd have secured your network in the meanwhile02:54
LjL[23:08] *** ub3r31337!n=jd@dpc6746109171.direcpc.com has joined #ubuntu02:54
LjL[23:12] <ub3r31337> version ctcp02:54
LjL[23:13] <ub3r31337> how do I do a version ctcp02:54
LjL(that was Session Start: Sat Mar 15 04:25:11 2008)02:55
Jordan_ULjL, Nice sleuthing :)03:06
LjLwell i have to give him that it was a more original excuse than "it was my brother"03:07
Piciit was your brother.03:21
* nickrud makes a note to be more cautious with his avatars03:29
LjLjdong: (yes please)03:35
ubotuizinucs called the ops in #ubuntu (sorry)05:55
naliothsorry klined05:57
nickrudthanks05:57
tonyyarussowhy is tuntun on my hilights?06:45
tonyyarusso@btlogin06:45
ubotuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join)07:47
ubotuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join)07:47
naliothyep, they're here07:48
macogwhey i just saw like 50 K-lines in #ubuntu...what's going on?07:54
naliothmacogw: bots07:54
naliothwould you like me to leave them?07:54
macogwhah no i just saw a *ton* of joins and then a bunch of k-lines and was wondering what was up07:55
macogwif it wasnt for irssi usually warning of netsplits, i would've thought it was that07:56
naliothwell, if you didn't see a netsplit warning, it's usually a bot attack07:56
nalioth#ubuntu is a desirable target for trolls07:56
nalioththe most people to disrupt, you see07:56
macogwah ok07:58
ubotuFloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join)08:01
ubotuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join)08:01
macogwthere are a lot of joins happening quickly in #ubuntu...more bots?08:26
tonyyarussolooks like it08:27
elkbuntu* FloodBot2 removes exempt on mib_3lsdqi99!i=3a13210e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-dc825dbdc8d29 <--- eh?10:43
tonyyarussoelkbuntu: If you try to join #ubuntu from mibbit, you get forwarded to -proxy-users.  If you stay a moment, it sets an exemption for you to join #ubuntu.  Once you leave, it removes the exemption for your session.10:45
elkbuntuoh, nice10:45
tonyyarussoyeah, it's pretty smart10:47
ubotuIn #ubuntu-offtopic, rodserling said: !rmssong is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sJUDx7iEJw11:16
ubotuIn #ubuntu-offtopic, BaD_CrC said: ubotu: rmssong is <reply> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sJUDx7iEJw11:18
ubotuIn #ubuntu-offtopic, rodserling said: !rmssong is <reply> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sJUDx7iEJw11:18
Davieyhmm, should it be that or Soulja boy :)11:25
Seveas--- Loaded Chanserv helper 1.0.8 by Seveas <dennis@kaarsemaker.net>12:45
Seveasnow bans mibbit users by ident, not hostmask :)12:45
Hobbseeooo12:46
Hobbseeie, by real IP12:46
Seveasyup12:46
naliothby the hex _AND_ IP, right, Seveas ?12:48
Seveas-EPARSE12:48
Seveaswhat do you mean>12:50
naliothmibbit users connect with their connecting IP shown as their ident in hexidecimal.  does your chanserv.py ban both the hex (which will stop 90% of all reconnects through other gateways) _AND_ the numeric IP ( to keep them from just directly connecting and bypassing the hex ban ) ?12:54
* nalioth goes to hunt down a mibbit user for an example12:56
Seveasah right12:56
Seveasit does not, but nice idea12:56
Seveasit now does this12:56
Seveas--- Seveas sets ban on *!i=53a0071a@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/*12:56
nalioth[i=62d531e0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c62de1fb97ef4583] has joined #ubuntu-proxy-users12:56
nalioth-!- Irssi: 62d531e0 = 98.213.49.22412:57
naliothSeveas: i have an irssi script to convert hex > IP12:57
Seveasdon't need a script for that13:06
Seveassocket.inet_ntoa(struct.pack('!I',eval('0x'+ip)))13:06
Fragglerockyou wanted a victim?13:09
naliothSeveas: if you're gonna make your chanserv.py non-#ubuntu specific, you might like to add that feature13:09
naliothvictim?13:09
* nalioth puts on his hip waders13:09
Fragglerockthat works13:10
Fragglerockor not13:10
Seveasnow it does13:10
Fragglerockdoes it13:10
naliothSeveas: if you just ban *!i=53a0071a@* it'll work for all the gateways that pass the hex as an ident ( and not just mibbit )13:11
SeveasFragglerock, what can we do for you?13:11
Garysorry Seveas I read those bans wrong13:11
naliothGary: fragglerock is connecting from a gateway13:11
Seveasnalioth, that makes sense. Even beats cloaks :)13:12
* nalioth has grown more sneaky as a staffer :|13:12
naliothor is that more lazy ?13:12
naliothand seveas, remember to use ?=1234abcd@* instead of i= or n=13:13
Seveashow evil is it not to detect mibbit but 8-char hex idents?13:14
* nalioth bans by ident when he catches any gateway user misbehaving13:14
naliothstops return visits from another gateway13:15
Seveasno, I mean for detecting gateway users13:15
Seveasnow I do this:13:15
Seveas319                 if self.mask[1].startswith('gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com'):13:15
Seveas313:15
Seveascould do if hex_ip_regex.match(self.mask[1])13:16
naliothgateway/web will indicate a proxy user13:16
GarySeveas: unaffiliated cloaks will not mask a mibbit user, but project ones will13:16
SeveasGary, they won't mask the ident13:16
Seveasnalioth, not with a project cloak13:17
* nalioth masks Gary 13:17
naliothSeveas: look for the hex ( like fragglerock had )13:17
Seveasthat's what I'm saying :)13:17
Seveashmm13:18
Seveasworks now13:21
Garyyay13:21
Garywant to test it on a cloaked mibbit user?13:22
Seveassure, why not13:22
fragglerockseems to work13:23
Garydoes it work on a normal user (try me)13:23
Garycool13:24
* Gary misses chanserv.py13:24
Seveas--- Bans matching mib_zt0fsh!i=53a0071a@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-66b3b8e44f5fe882 (seveas.demon.nl)13:28
Seveas--- *!?=53a0071a@*13:28
Seveas--- Bans matching mib_zt0fsh!i=53a0071a@83.160.7.26 (seveas.demon.nl)13:28
Seveas--- *!*@83.160.7.2613:28
Seveas--- *!?=53a0071a@*13:28
Seveas/cs bans sees it as well13:28
Seveasnow for /cs unban13:28
SeveasGary, make irssi-python work and you'll have chanserv.py for irssi :)13:34
GarySeveas: did you like my version reply13:35
SeveasGary, it's not the worst in history13:35
GaryI thought it was very clever, for me13:36
ubotuastro76 called the ops in #ubuntu (ultramalf)13:38
ompaulban forwarded to here or so it appears13:39
ompaulgone anyway 13:39
LjL!staff | eng2 (serial poet) spamming #kubuntu ##linux and others15:28
ubotueng2 (serial poet) spamming #kubuntu ##linux and others: Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel or Gary,  I could use a bit of your time :)15:28
Seveasserial poet, now there's an intersting crime :)15:32
LjLSeveas: but hardly unheard of in here :)15:33
Seveastrue15:33
LjLSeveas: see -irc by the way, about ubotu and -se15:34
Seveasnot in there15:34
Seveascare to summarize?15:35
LjLSeveas: ah yeah, nothing, nafallo just wanted ubotu in there in an attempt to get the channel back on track (it appears to be roaming), so i joined it.15:36
LjLSeveas: (and look at what he just said - i can't do that)15:36
Seveask15:36
mohihi :)16:49
mohiI have a question, 16:49
mohiHow can someone cloak his/her IP like ubuntu/members/Name ?16:50
mc44http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks16:51
mc44!member16:51
ubotuWant to become an Ubuntu member? Look at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember16:51
mohity mc44 :)16:52
ompaulmohi, is there anything else?17:00
ompauluberator, is there anything we can help with?17:00
uberatorompaul: community college, indiana it's that you don't try and do anything which is likely to be stopped by an actionshrimp. it's just not worth the tax penalty17:00
ompaulwhat?17:01
ompauluberator, that was something I could not parse17:01
uberatorompaul: thats all. uberator i dont need to fix anything i think :). well may be some things yes17:01
mohiompaul: no thanks. :) I'm reading and working on it. I'm ubuntu-ir forum and wiki staff and wanna become ubuntu member (if its possible) :)17:01
ompaulmohi, I know who you are ;-)17:02
ompaul!idle17:02
ubotuPlease keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries.17:02
mohiompaul: oh! ;) ok17:02
ompauluberator, so ehh anything else?17:03
uberatorompaul: thats all. uberator i dont need to fix anything i think :). well may be some things yes17:03
ompaul!test17:03
ubotuFailed.17:03
ompaul@test17:04
nickruduberator seems to be a bot, don't you think?17:22
ompaulnickrud, I got that feeling17:24
Seeker`uberator: how can we help you?17:49
uberatorSeeker`: rarely more than a half-dozen17:49
Seeker`ompaul: your friend is back :)17:49
nickruduberator are you a bot?17:54
Seeker`uberator: where are you from?17:54
uberatorSeeker`: it's hard to be sure17:55
Seeker`nickrud: try uberator: question17:55
nickruduberator: are you a bot?17:55
uberatornickrud: rarely more than a half-dozen17:55
mc44uberator: how many eggs do you buy?17:55
Seeker`uberator: does it always take you 7 seconds to respond?17:56
uberatormc44: that's exactly right17:56
uberatorSeeker`: that's exactly right17:56
mc44damn17:56
ompauluberator, long tall right17:57
Seeker`I wonder who told him to join17:57
uberatorompaul: forever.17:57
nickrudnot even a very smart bot17:58
Seeker`can anyone find out who "owns" uberator?17:59
ompaulSeeker`, no one here that we can see18:23
Seeker`just got: -19:03:35- ASLi_Afyon:  100 Konturrree Caammda Soyuuyorum Ekleeee Beyenmesssenn Göndermemeee Bekliyorummm Canan.ist22 @19:04
Seeker`in PM19:05
Seeker`he joined #ubuntu about 15 mins ago, hasn't said anything since19:05
Seveasremoved19:05
Seeker`cool19:06
User790Hello all19:09
MaDDoG300Anyone home19:09
Seeker`how can we help you?19:09
MaDDoG300Im having trouble with multimixing19:10
Seeker`This isn't a support channel19:10
MaDDoG300ah im sorry 19:11
MaDDoG300I was giving this channel by a friend19:11
MaDDoG300my appologies19:11
LjL!staff | SexyGirL spamming #ubuntu and #gentoo19:12
ubotuSexyGirL spamming #ubuntu and #gentoo: Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel or Gary,  I could use a bit of your time :)19:12
ompaulLjL, and #perl19:33
ompaulhehe19:33
SeveasPici, poke20:33
PiciSeveas: ?21:32
SeveasPici, can I take a look at your bantracker code?21:32
LjLit's, like, on launchpad?21:34
PiciSeveas: its on LP: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bnrubin/ubuntu-bots/bantracker-devel/files21:34
Piciits like, on the ubuntu-bots project page too21:34
Seveasheh, didn't know :)21:34
PiciI havent touched it in a while though :/21:35
Seveasgonna see how much of it is usable in µbot21:48
* LjL takes bets he'll rewrite regardless21:49
* Pici thinks so too21:49
SeveasI'll need to rewrite quite a bit of it anyway21:51
Seveasbut I'm fighting dbus first21:51
LjLamateur... i'm fighting dtrain21:54
PriceChild:)21:54
ubotuDJones called the ops in #ubuntu-uk ()21:57
alan_mquick question for team meetings, who did our last team meeting transcript for the forum beginner team?23:04
PriceChildalan_m: erm, probably best you ask the team leader, or read the diffs on the wiki if its there23:12
alan_mThanks PriceChild 23:13
alan_mill ask bodhi if he's got his logs for that night.23:13

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