[00:00] <omar> Anywayz, thanks to all of you!
[00:00] <Survivorman> togoella,  did you sudo apt-get update?
[00:00] <hellonull> tim167: if you want a gui, use gftp, you can find it in synaptic
[00:00] <alperkanat> binarical-app: i'm running django's bundled server on my ubuntu box now... and trying to forward the external port to this machine's 8000. port
[00:00] <nickrud> togoella then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
[00:00] <togoella> done nickrud
[00:00] <omar> But one more thing, what was that command used to locate the trash?
[00:00] <nickrud> togoella look just above your line
[00:01] <IndyGunFreak> omar: to locate it, or to use root to delete it?
[00:01] <togoella> ok it is loading
[00:01] <togoella> thank you so much guys
[00:01] <nickrud> IndyGunFreak he's on edgy
[00:01] <togoella> is my first time using linux ubuntu
[00:01]  * togoella smiles
[00:01] <IndyGunFreak> ah.. gotcha.
[00:01] <IndyGunFreak> why?..lol
[00:01] <nickrud> togoella enjoy :)
[00:01] <omar> IndyGunFreak: locate it
[00:02] <togoella> I like it a lot
[00:02] <IndyGunFreak> omar: well trash, all you have to do is open your home folder, click View/Show HIdden files, then go down to ./Trash, and double click it
[00:02] <Thib_> I hate when this happens
[00:02] <togoella> While it loads, can someone tell me if there is any way to play windows games on ubuntu :D ?
[00:02] <nickrud> omar   sudo updatedb && locate Trash  (updatedb only has to be run when there're new files to be indexed, and is run daily by default)
[00:02] <IndyGunFreak> togoella: sometimes
[00:02] <Thib_> I bought a new laptop and of course all its hardware is basically too recent to work with anything
[00:02] <nickrud> !wine | togoella (but it's crack)
[00:02] <ubotu> togoella (but it's crack): WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[00:02] <omar> nickrud: Yes thanks! That's what I was looking for! ;)
[00:02] <towlie_> whats the name of the unix based app that formats your c++ code
[00:03] <deniz__> yo can sum1 plz help me share a dial-up connection (i did the hosting on a windows xp comp) but how do i do the client on an ubuntu 7.04 laptop?
[00:03] <togoella> yeah I read about wine
[00:03] <togoella> !appbd
[00:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about appbd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:03] <tim167> hellonull: ok, the ftp command mput only puts files inside the cwd, not folders is there a way to make it put folders too ?
[00:03] <nickrud> that's the place to look, alright
[00:03] <IndyGunFreak> !appdb | togoella almost...
[00:03] <ubotu> togoella almost...: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[00:04] <pirattrev> how do i test if my nick is registered?
[00:04] <StPatrick> Does ubuntu support compiz?
[00:04] <GIn> deniz__: how is the laptop connected to the xp machine?
[00:04] <binarical-app> alperkanat: you will have to let incomming connections connect to this port. to do so you must edit a .conf file that partains to your application. in my experiance , i had to edit a .conf file to allow http access to my home server.....if you wait a bit i might be able to help you some more
[00:04] <Survivorman> pirattrev, did you get my pm?
[00:05] <Survivorman> you're registered
[00:05] <IndyGunFreak> StPatrick: ubuntu supports it fine, its wether your video device supports it, is the question
[00:05] <nickrud> StPatrick yes
[00:05] <alperkanat> binarical-app: ok
[00:05] <deniz__> GIn, thru a wired router (I think i have the router set up properly but I am not 100% sure)
[00:05] <togoella> awesome fs2004 works :D
[00:05] <pirattrev> thanks survivorman
[00:05] <Survivorman> pirattrev, you're very welcome
[00:05] <IndyGunFreak> pirattrev: you should see on the main freenode page, assuming you're using xchat/xchat-gnome, it will say "this nick is registered",
[00:05] <IndyGunFreak> or something like that
[00:05] <StPatrick> LoL, Im using it in Mandriva right now.
[00:05] <deniz__> quick compiling questiom: do u need to extract a tar.bz2 b4 working on it or not?
[00:06] <StPatrick> Does anyone know how to get a Realtek RTL 8187b to work in Ubuntu?
[00:06] <togoella> how do I install it? apt-get install wine , ?
[00:06] <pirattrev> yeah, i'm using gnome-xchat
[00:06] <GIn> deniz__: if your inetrnet connection is on the xp machine, I think you need a switch. Does the router have dhcp build into it?
[00:06] <hellonull> tim167: good question, i'm not sure
[00:06] <odder> togoella: and there's cedega as well, you can get a free (no cost, I mean) version from their SVN
[00:06] <nickrud> togoella yes. Or, you can use system->admin->synaptic for a nice tool. ctl-f opens a search box
[00:06] <IndyGunFreak> pirattrev: when you log back in next time, you'll see where it says "this nick is registered, if its your nick.." something like that
[00:06] <odder> !cedega | togoella
[00:06] <ubotu> togoella: cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[00:06] <togoella> odder:  what's cedega?
[00:06] <deniz__> GIn, i have no idea all i can tell u is its a d-link DI-604
[00:06] <odder> togoella: ^^ :)
[00:06] <pirattrev> ok, thanks again
[00:06] <tim167> hellonull: ok, I'll install gftp and see if that brings me luck ...
[00:07] <mysterycool> omg
[00:07] <hellonull> tim167: i would stick with gftp for that, i'm sure there's a way with terminal-based ftp but i am not aware of it
[00:07] <deniz__> GIn, i have dial-up internet
[00:07] <togoella> thanks odder :D
[00:07] <togoella> let's see
[00:07] <nickrud> tim167 you might want to look at lftp , it's a package that installs a client that supports folders (iirc)
[00:07] <mysterycool> if i did ./configure then make and then make install to actuallyget grub working did i mess up the bootloader of ubuntu??! :S
[00:07] <deniz__> GIn, i got the hosting right and on microsofts help website it says to do things on a client comp and on the wizard it says to do stuff like floppy or xp cd to it but its not windows the client its ubuntu so im stuck
[00:07] <nickrud> mysterycool you certainly replaced parts of it, whether it's messed up, well ....
[00:08] <mysterycool> *to actually get GRUB working did I mess up the boot loader of Ubuntu??! :s
[00:08] <mysterycool> oh
[00:08] <togoella> wait wait wait
[00:08] <togoella> is wine free?
[00:08] <charles|64> hey room
[00:08] <mysterycool> nickrud: which means...? :S
[00:08] <odder> togoella: as in freedom
[00:08] <GIn> deniz__: I think you need a switch and not a router with modem buidlin it
[00:08] <togoella> because Cedega is not :|
[00:08] <Thib_> I wish
[00:08] <Devrethman> Anybody care to take a look at this http://pastebin.ca/973130 and see if they can see what's up
[00:08] <Thib_> oh you mean the software ;-)
[00:08] <Devrethman> cause it looks to me like everything's going fine, then it juse aborts
[00:08] <Devrethman> for no apparent reason
[00:08] <nickrud> yes. togoella
[00:08] <Survivorman> tim167, xcopy moves files and folders i think
[00:08]  * Thib_ wishes wine made from grapes was free
[00:09] <GIn> deniz__: you are connected to the internet through a dialup on the xp machine right?
[00:09] <deniz__> GIn, ya
[00:09] <togoella> nickrud:  then  I don't want cedega anymore lol, that's why I thought about linux as open source...
[00:09] <togoella> HAHAH
[00:09] <GIn> deniz__: and you have internet sharing setup on the xp machine?
[00:09] <GIn> deniz__: then you need a switch
[00:09] <nickrud> mysterycool you did the compile, you can test it with a reboot (or do sudo apt-get remove --purge grub && sudo apt-get install grub )
[00:09] <nickrud> togoella it is, cedega has some proprietary bits
[00:09] <deniz__> GIn, i have ubuntu also so if i could share using ubuntu and a router tell me plz and firestarter doesnt work
[00:09] <GIn> deniz__: I don't know if it is also possible with that dlink router. hang on
[00:09] <mysterycool> nickrud: if i remove wont the bootloader of ubuntu be removed? :S
[00:09] <tim167> Survivorman: ok thanks for the suggestion, i just started the transfer with gftp though, works too...
[00:09] <deniz__> GIn, k
[00:10] <StPatrick> Everyone, I have great news
[00:10] <hellonull> haha Devrethman, nice update command
[00:10] <nickrud> mysterycool that's why you immediately reinstall
[00:10] <StPatrick> I'm installing Ubuntu!!!
[00:10] <HangukMiguk> ok, i think i figured out why my aac files aren't working, but i have a question, is there any way possible to backtrack in repository and install older versions of packages?
[00:10] <mysterycool> nickrud: what do u mean immediately reinstall? :S
[00:10] <togoella> ok first need I to download wine? right? cedega is like a plugin or im awrong
[00:10] <nickrud> mysterycool look at the complete command I gave you
[00:10] <GIn> deniz__: connect your laptop to the modem first
[00:10] <nickrud> togoella no. you either get cedega or wine
[00:11] <GIn> deniz__: do you know how to use the terminal?
[00:11] <mysterycool> nickrud: and are u sure it's going to work? :S
[00:11] <hexoroid> anybody good with named ?
[00:11] <togoella> Cedega is a proprietary product, that must be purchased (currently $5.00 per month with a 3 month minimum initial purchase)
[00:11] <GIn> deniz__: I mean the router
[00:11] <Devrethman> hellonull:Yeah, it was a joke, he was like "why can't I just say "upgrade mah shit" and make it go"
[00:11] <SeveredCross> HangukMiguk: Why do you need to downgrade?
[00:11] <togoella> why do you keep saying is free :|
[00:11] <deniz__> GIn, wait, connect my laptop to the modem??? how is that possible?? I have a winmodem with dell's driver for it even tho its not a dell comp
[00:11] <SeveredCross> AAC works fine for me in Gutsy and in Hardy
[00:11] <Boohbah> togoella: cedega is a distribution of wine with proprietary directx layer and it costs money
[00:11] <nickrud> mysterycoolI've fixed my system with with that command more than once ;)
[00:11] <GIn> deniz__: I mean the router
[00:11] <GIn> ;)
[00:11] <mysterycool> nickrud: oh lol good, k then :D
[00:11] <mysterycool> ;)
[00:11] <mysterycool> :D
[00:12] <togoella> I see
[00:12] <Boohbah> hexoroid: what's up with named?
[00:12] <odder> Boohbah: the SVN version costs $0
[00:12] <HangukMiguk> ServedCross: libfaad2-0 is a cvs version, i need an earlier version to work with gstreamer
[00:12] <deniz__> GIn, the laptop and desktop r connected to the router, ask me questions to c if its connected properly
[00:12] <SeveredCross> HangukMiguk: Hmm.
[00:12] <GIn> deniz__: do you know how to use the terminal?
[00:12] <SeveredCross> That's odd. AAC worked in Gutsy just fine, works in Hardy now too.
[00:12] <Boohbah> togoella: <odder> Boohbah: the SVN version costs $0 - so, you can compile it if you want....
[00:12] <odder> togoella: you can get the SVN version of cedega for free, but I'm not sure if it's free software
[00:12] <SeveredCross> I just installed ubuntu-restricted-extras.
[00:12] <togoella> how do I open a new server window on xchat?
[00:13] <Devrethman> togella: IRC->connect
[00:13] <deniz__> GIn, well im not a genius but i can use things like repositoriy downloading and using imagemagick
[00:13] <HangukMiguk> ServedCross: AAC works fine in everything except for gstreamer programs
[00:13] <mysterycool> nickrud: thank you :D
[00:13] <nickrud> togoella xchat->network listing, pick one and click connect button
[00:13] <togoella> thanks
[00:13] <mysterycool> niickrud: going to reboot and check if it's working :S
[00:13] <GIn> deniz__: open the terminal and type ifconfig in. you should see something like eth1 or eth0 . like that
[00:13] <mysterycool> *nickrud: going to reboot and check if it's working :S
[00:14] <mysterycool> wish me luck all! :D
[00:14] <mysterycool> thanks all ;)
[00:14] <mysterycool> cya later ;)
[00:14] <binarical-app> alperkanat: in the specific instance i needed to configure :/etc/apach2/ports.conf like "Listen 127.0.0.1:80" originally this file comes without the :80 , meaning that the ip address is allowed, however pot 80 where a browser needs to connect could not. i needed to manually configure this file so that port 80 (for http) would be accepted
[00:14] <mysterycool> like in a bit
[00:14] <alperkanat> amazing... i can reach django app by typing localhost:8000 but i can't reach if typing 192.168.1.2:8000
[00:14] <FloodBot2> mysterycool: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:14] <mysterycool> laterz! ;)
[00:14] <Devrethman> srsly, anybody have any idea what's up with this: http://pastebin.ca/973130
[00:14] <nickrud> mysterycool see you in a week (rflol) [only kidding;0]
[00:14] <mysterycool> :S
[00:14] <HangukMiguk> ServedCross: Also, it previously worked in Rhythmbox, since switching back, i can no longer playback AAC files
[00:14] <mysterycool> lol XD
[00:14] <alperkanat> binarical-app: i don't need apache for django
[00:14] <mysterycool> bitz!
[00:14] <e345> Svenstaro: Thanks!
[00:14] <binarical-app> okay so ill find out what runs on port 8000
[00:15] <nickrud> binarical-app   sudo netstat -tlpn   is a quick way (if you didn't know already)
[00:15] <mike_> Hey guys, how can I chage the rate at which my scroll qwheel scrolls?
[00:15] <mike_> Right now it goes WAY too fast.
[00:15] <binarical-app> take a look at this : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=452353
[00:16] <emma> mike_, system > preferences> mouse
[00:16] <mike_> emma: Not using gnome
[00:16] <mysterycool> lol
[00:16] <mysterycool> im back! :D
[00:16] <emma> oh what are you using?
[00:16] <mysterycool> thanks nickrud! ;)
[00:16] <mike_> emma: openbox
[00:16] <binarical-app> im really just getting to know bash..... bear with me.....sorry if it diddna work
[00:17] <mysterycool> anyway, now i gotta go and learn some advanced C :D
[00:17] <deniz__> GIn, http://pastebin.com/d37fb88c9
[00:17] <mysterycool> cya later! ;)
[00:17] <mysterycool> thanks again nickrud! ;)
[00:17]  * binarical-app thinks nickrub rocks and is cool 
[00:17] <binarical-app> *nickrud
[00:18] <ib> Heya guys, my wifi card works but it's not picking up all the signals it used to, I just re-installed Ubuntu. Any ideas?
[00:18] <Devrethman> ib: I'm assuming you haven't moved it
[00:18] <ib> Devrethman: Correct
[00:18] <GIn> deniz__: nice, now run this: sudo dhclient eth0
[00:18] <ib> Devrethman: Also, a signal that is at like 85% won't connect here but it will literally two metres away.
[00:19] <emma> mike_,  see if this can help you -- https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/9200
[00:19] <ib> Devrethman: I have a broadcom driver, if you're wondering. Same one as last install.
[00:19] <smith> hi, can I use Ubuntu on an external harddrive?
[00:19] <tyuio> hi
[00:19] <Devrethman> ib: I'm really no good at wireless, so I haven't got much idea as to what could be up
[00:19] <mike_> emma: I've already looked at this
[00:20]  * togoella installing wine
[00:20] <chester_m> how can i have flash in Opera?
[00:20] <smith> can I use Ubuntu on an external hard drive?
[00:20] <smith> dual booting?
[00:20] <Devrethman> could somebody try to figure out what's up with this: http://pastebin.ca/973130
[00:20] <kriptix_> does any1 kno how to update a intel 954GM Mobile Drive
[00:21] <tyuio> can anyone explain me how every hardware 100 % under linux ?
[00:21] <Devrethman> smith: as long as your bios supports booting from external drives, you should be able to
[00:21] <friedtofu> tyuio its not 100% under linux
[00:21] <tyuio> can anyone explain me how every hardware 100 % compatible under linux ?
[00:21] <squish102> y does my very simple samba install not allow me access. always pops up username pass box with <ip address/Guest and will never log in
[00:21] <friedtofu> tyuio not every hardware is 100% campatible under linux - there are some due to lack of documentation and other such problems
[00:21] <Hummin> hi all
[00:22] <Hummin> anyone know of some good software to serve video from ubuntu to my ps3 ?
[00:22] <togoella> ok done
[00:22] <Hummin> any software that will recode unsupported formats, tversity style ?
[00:22] <togoella> I installed wine, now, how do I use it?
[00:22] <togoella> :x
[00:22] <deniz__> GIn, http://pastebin.com/d241afa65
[00:22] <deniz__> GIn, im on desktop btw
[00:22] <Starnestommy> togoella: wine /path/to/program.exe ?
[00:22] <smith> Hummin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PlayStation_3
[00:23] <squish102> Hummin a sraight upnp av server is ushare
[00:23] <GIn> deniz__: I think you need a switch instead of a router
[00:23] <deniz__> :'( how much r those?
[00:23] <deniz__> GIn, :'( how much r those?
[00:23] <Hummin> smith: I don't want linux on it.. I wanna serve video from a linux computer
[00:23] <ib> Heya guys, my wifi card works but it's not picking up all the signals it used to, I just re-installed Ubuntu. Any ideas?
[00:23] <Hummin> squish102: upnp av is some kind of standard?
[00:23] <GIn> deniz__: those are cheap. probably 10 usd or less
[00:23] <deniz__> GIn, r u sure tho cuz i dont need a switch to do it with windows apparently
[00:24] <tyuio> ok how device are compatible under linux ?
[00:24] <GIn> deniz__: you got a windows machine that works with this router?
[00:24] <friedtofu> ib - try installing wicd as a different wifi manager - its pretty good
[00:24] <GIn> windows*
[00:24] <ieldib> tyuio,  huh ?
[00:24] <deniz__> GIn, ive never set up a router successfully in my life :(
[00:24] <tyuio> most device
[00:24] <friedtofu> ib: did you install the wifi drivers?.. maybe its restricted -
[00:25] <friedtofu> tyuio - dont really understand your question....
[00:25] <Frogger626> Hello again
[00:25] <icesword> deniz__, router?it is easy
[00:25] <GIn> deniz__: let me explain how the dlink router works. The router has a DSL/Cable modem build into it and the router uses that as it's main connection to the internet and share that to the computer connected to the 4 ethernet ports.
[00:25] <Frogger626> Is there a way to restore the MBR on a computer, or at least make GRUB dual-boot friendly?
[00:25] <togoella> how do I use wine
[00:25] <togoella> how do I run a program using wine
[00:26] <ryanzec> i just did a .configure make and make install for 2.0.16 alsa but my version is still 2.0.15, hwo do i enable it?
[00:26] <GIn> but in your case, the internet connection is not from the router but from your xp pc.
[00:26] <Frogger626> Togoella: I ask myself the same question every day.
[00:26] <friedtofu> Frogger626 - i thought grub is dualboot friendly :/
[00:26] <RoAkSoAx> togoella, wine prorgam.exe
[00:26] <togoella> RoAkSoAx:  thanks
[00:26] <hellonull> togoella, well first you need a windows program (.exe) to run
[00:26] <deniz__> GIn, well on the part were its spose to get internet i connected it to my ethernet port on my mobo hoping to transmit dial-up to it
[00:26] <tyuio> when u plug a usb device how detect the device and give the correct drivers ?
[00:26] <Frogger626> friedtofu: I can't get grub to allow Windows to boot.
[00:26] <icesword> togoella, wine /pathto the exe file?
[00:26] <tyuio> when u plug a usb device how linux detect the device and give the correct drivers ?
[00:26] <hellonull> togoella: if you do torrents, i would recommend instlaling utorrent under wine, as it will give you experience and come in handy too
[00:27] <deniz__> GIn, wat about doing it wireleslly? i have a airlink 101 wireless card in desktop and D-Link DWl-G122 usb adapter
[00:27] <softtower> regexp
[00:27] <GIn> deniz__: no, a router does not works like that, not the d-link one
[00:27] <icesword> Frogger626, windows cannot boot or linux?
[00:27] <hvgotcodes> hey should i recompile the stock kernel?
[00:27] <GIn> deniz__: if the desktop one can acts as an access point, yes, you can share using that setup.
[00:27] <hvgotcodes> meaning: is it lik 386 only and would there be benefit from recompiling?
[00:27] <hellonull> togoella, wine "path", where path will start with c:
[00:27] <miko3k> hi ... is there any way to fix the splash screen during bootup ? coz it freezes and only way out is alt+f1 ...
[00:27] <deniz__> GIn, wat setup? the wireless one i suggested?
[00:27] <GIn> deniz__: but it's much complicated with a switch.
[00:28] <Frogger626> icesword: I can boot linux, what I'm in now. At least, off the CD. I have not attempted a partition. No, I cannot run Windows.
[00:28] <GIn> deniz__: yep, the wireless one
[00:28] <deniz__> GIn, i can do it with only wat i have???
[00:28] <hellonull> togoella: or another drive letter
[00:28] <GIn> deniz__: note that not all wireless cards can act as a accesspoint
[00:28] <deniz__> GIn, but ill need ndiswrapper for it i herd and thats gona complicate my life a lot
[00:28] <icesword> Frogger626, what about fixboot ?you have winodws install cd?
[00:28] <deniz__> GIn, my desktop is 7.10 and laptop 7.04 i hope thats not a problem
[00:28] <hellonull> togoella: it is easiest to just get your .exe (if it is an installer) on the desktop and double click it, it will autmatically launch it in wine
[00:28] <GIn> deniz__: if you can make your win xp pc as an accesspoint, it will be easy
[00:29] <togoella> hellonull: isn't working like that
[00:29] <togoella> if I use wine file.exe show me
[00:29] <togoella> err:module:import_dll Library WINHTTP.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\home\\torroella\\Desktop\\WLinstaller.exe") not found
[00:29] <GIn> deniz__: what card you got in your ubuntu laptop?
[00:29] <deniz__> GIn, i dont no how but i think my airlink 101 works perfectly out of the box in gutsy
[00:29] <andreferreira_> people, can you please help me? i'm searching for a good application to develop web applications using PHP and MySQL ... i've tried NVU, its OK but it doesn't support PHP. can you Please name me some ? thank you!
[00:29] <deniz__> GIn, laptop has usb dwl-g122 usb adapter i think revision b
[00:29] <GIn> deniz__: you got gutsy on your laptop right?
[00:30] <deniz__> GIn, no feisty on laptop, gutsy on desktop (i dual-boot with xp pro on laptop)
[00:30] <deniz__> GIn, on dekstop*
[00:30] <icesword> Frogger626, when you said windows cannot boot,you mean what happened after you chooose windows in grub menu?
[00:30] <deniz__> GIn, ill refrase
[00:30] <deniz__> GIn, no feisty on laptop, gutsy on desktop (i dual-boot with xp pro on desktop)***
[00:31] <Frogger626> icesword: I didn't get that far. It said it was loading GRUB... then on the next line "Error 21". Any ideas?
[00:31] <emma> mike_, did you get it yet or did someone else help you?
[00:31] <Frogger626> Next time, I am getting linux pre-installed. ><
[00:31] <emma> mike_, I think I found something here that might help.
[00:31] <hvgotcodes> no advice on whether or not to compile the stock kernel that comes with ubuntu?
[00:31] <icesword> Frogger626, so you mean even your linux cannot boot,right,you goot grub load error 21?
[00:31] <mprofitt> why compile it?
[00:31] <GIn> deniz__: why not upgrade to gutsy?
[00:32] <hvgotcodes> i mean recompile
[00:32] <deniz__> GIn, bcuz my laptop is not connected to internet and i have no way of making it connect, not even to dial-up
[00:32] <Frogger626> icesword: I am working off an Ubuntu Live-CD; and yes, I got error 21. How to fix?
[00:32] <greg> hi
[00:32] <mprofitt> i would say no to the compile kernel, unless you have a specific reason to do so
[00:32] <Khisanth> Frogger626: what did you do before this started happening? I have actually gotten that error several times before :)
[00:32] <ellsworth> how do I connect via a proxy in XCHAT-gnome?
[00:32] <emma> Khisanth, don't I know you from xchat?
[00:33] <ellsworth> previously, I could go to network->network setup
[00:33] <Khisanth> :)
[00:33] <GIn> deniz__: download the cd from Ubuntu's website using your xp box?
[00:33] <ellsworth> but there doesn't appear to be a "network setup"
[00:33] <binarical-app> alperkanat: hey man i dug this up for you..... tell me if it works http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9712 :P
[00:33] <hvgotcodes> mprofitt: is the default compiled for 386 compatibility?
[00:33] <emma> mike_, are you still here?
[00:33] <deniz__> GIn, i cant download a cd on dial-up speed
[00:33] <JPSman> so I need some help installing ubuntu onto my laptop - I think there are some corrupted sectors on its harddrive
[00:33] <Frogger626> khisanth: Yesterday, I followed the fac on pendrivelinux.com for a persistent unbuntu 7.10 install from linux. After that, well... I suppose something happened to the MBR. How to correct...
[00:33] <deniz__> GIn, i get cds thru shipit
[00:33] <Khisanth> emma: I am everywhere!
[00:33] <mprofitt> hvgotcodes -- yes
[00:33] <hellonull> togoella: what exactly are you trying to do with wine? do you have a program you are trying to install? if so, where is the .exe located?
[00:33] <icesword> Frogger626, http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-grub/2003-02/msg00082.html
[00:33] <emma> Khisanth, so it would seem.
[00:34] <emma> Khisanth, I must be getting to be almost everywhere in order to spot you.
[00:34] <ellsworth> anyone?
[00:34] <hvgotcodes> mprofitt: so if i have a newer processor would i see performance  increase if i recompile it?
[00:34] <alperkanat> binarical-app: thanks, looking..
[00:34] <bod_> how can i convert ogg to mpeg or avi?
[00:34] <binarical-app> whats up ellsworth
[00:34] <Frogger626> ... And for the third time today, I restart. Thanks, y'all.
[00:34] <ellsworth> how do I connect via a proxy in XCHAT-gnome?
[00:34] <ellsworth> previously, I could go to network->network setup
[00:34] <Frogger626> BRB with any luck
[00:34] <ellsworth> but there doesn't appear to be a "network setup"
[00:34] <GIn> deniz__: but anyway, the easy way to setup a network sharing a dialup connection on the cp machine is suing a switch
[00:35] <deniz__> bod_, download cinelerra, more than that i dont no
[00:35] <bod_> cheers
[00:35] <emma> ellsworth, you might want to try #xchat-gnome
[00:35] <GIn> xp machine*
[00:35] <ellsworth> thnx
[00:35] <deniz__> GIn, can i plz try to make the hosting work ill test if it works by using a xp machine with the usb d-link to check
[00:35]  * binarical-app run dru run
[00:35] <deniz__> GIn, then ill worry bout ndiswrapper etc another time
[00:36] <Scunizi> ellsworth, if you're going to use xchat install the version without the -gnome.. you'll have more features.
[00:36] <ellsworth> that chan seems to be dead
[00:36] <bod_> deniz__, i cant find that in my repo's?
[00:36] <different> How do I boot from CD instead of having windows automaticly load?
[00:36] <ellsworth> Scunizi: Thanks
[00:36] <deniz__> bod_, u have to add it to it
[00:36] <deniz__> bod_, ill find site wait
[00:36] <bod_> ty
[00:36] <marsje> Hi. How do I set up ubuntu to use English, but have Dutch date/time notation? Do I just edit /etc/environment? I don't really understand how it is supposed to work...
[00:36] <ellsworth> is that a GUI interface? regular "xchat" that is?
[00:36] <alperkanat> binarical-app: hmmm.. 192.168.1.2:8000 works now.. but it can't be reached from outside :)
[00:36] <andreferreira_> ppl im sorry, but sincerily, i can't understand why my answer is the only not answered...
[00:36] <GIn> deniz__: o.k try to put the wireless card in windows xp as an accesspoint then
[00:36] <emma> ellsworth, yes I use xchat. I think it is excellent.
[00:37] <Scunizi> ellsworth, sure.. as backup you might also consider irssi which works on the commandline/terminal.. just in case your gui bombs for some reason you'll still be able to connect and get help
[00:37] <togoella> hellonull:  yeah is on the desktop
[00:37] <emma> there is also a channel for #xchat but I thought you had your heart set on xchat-gnome which is not the same thing
[00:37] <ellsworth> got it thnx
[00:37] <binarical-app> ellsworth: can you give us some more infromation on the subject , have you googled you problem, prespectivly perhaps there is an alternative solution to your previous setup
[00:37] <emma> #xchat is quite active.
[00:37] <deniz__> bod_, http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php3
[00:37] <bod_> cheers deniz__
[00:37] <deniz__> bod_, thats not the exact page but look in there
[00:37] <hellonull> togoella: and that error comes up when you right click the installer and click "open with wine windows emulator"?
[00:37] <bod_> deniz__, is it a gui?
[00:38] <togoella> hellonull:  maybe wine wasn't instaleld correctly because I dont' the wine open option
[00:38] <deniz__> bod_, ya its the best video editor there is for linux=the most comparable to adobe premiere pro but apparently the hardest to use but ya it has a gui
[00:38] <binarical-app> alperkanat: have you set it on your router? do you know how to do that ? your router has an ip , enter this ip into your browser then enter the login stuff then you should be able to find you way from there..... forward your needed port
[00:38] <deniz__> GIn, r u talking bout my desktop comp now?
[00:38] <bod_> deniz__, ok, il have a play, do i want cinelerra or cinelerra-CV ??
[00:38] <Waterloo> GUI's are good
[00:38] <GIn> deniz__: yes
[00:39] <deniz__> bod_, i think cinelerra CV is community version
[00:39] <deniz__> bod_, not cv**
[00:39] <bod_> deniz__, ok cheers
[00:39] <Paddy_EIRE> Waterloo: not always.... sometimes they stupify ones ability to actually no what is going on...
[00:39] <alperkanat> binarical-app: yeah i know.. i have usr9106 router at home.. i've setup ssh successfully
[00:39] <alperkanat> binarical-app: but can't managed to connect to the local django server
[00:40] <togoella> hellonull:  how can I know if it is installed?
[00:40] <forrest> is there anyway to control the size of the icons on the app launcher panel?
[00:40] <hellonull> togoella: when you click applications on the top panel, is there a wine menu at the bottom?
[00:40] <Scunizi> andreferreira_, there's screem, bluefish, text editor, all in synaptic
[00:40] <Paddy_EIRE> forrest: make the panel larger
[00:40] <togoella> no
[00:40] <Scunizi> andreferreira_, text editor is already installed.
[00:41] <Pelo> forrest, you mean in the application menu ?
[00:41] <binarical-app> alperkanat: have you got a static ip address? are you going outside of yournetwork or are you still working on getting it to run inside the network. do you need to use dyndns ?
[00:41] <hellonull> togoella: open terminal and sudo apt-get install wine
[00:41] <chimp> How can I share a folder using samba, via the cli? cheers
[00:41] <ricanelite> okay im getting a message when reloading my synaptic package manager could not download all repository indexes and it is some security and archive repository how can i go about fixing it
[00:41] <alperkanat> binarical-app: i'm using dyndns actually.. and trying to reach my local django server via penguix.dyndns.org
[00:41] <andreferreira_> Scunizi, thank you ... i will see screem or bluefish... text editor its a bit "hard code" dont you think ? i'm searching for some gui like visual studio, dreamweaver or phpdesigner
[00:41] <alperkanat> binarical-app: when i connect to penguix.dyndns.org:8000
[00:41] <deniz__> GIn, so u want me to go into windows? but i dont no how to set up an access point and i rely think that my wireless card works well cuz it detects networks
[00:41] <andreferreira_> you see ?
[00:41] <ricanelite> this is one of them
[00:42] <ricanelite> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-backports/Release: Unable to find expected entry  web/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[00:42] <forrest> Paddy_EIRE, I want to make the icons smaller without making the panel larger
[00:42] <alperkanat> binarical-app: it should go to local ip 192.168.1.2:8000
[00:42] <forrest> Pelo, I want to make the icons smaller without making the panel larger, the "quick launch" icons
[00:42] <alperkanat> django works at http://192.168.1.2:8000 now
[00:42] <alperkanat> binarical-app: but i can't reach it from dyndns
[00:42] <Waterloo> uh oh - what does [260.831682] Buffer I/O error on device fd0 mean?
[00:43] <Paddy_EIRE> forrest: I dont believe that is possible as it will size up even a smaller icon to fit anyway... odd thing to do?
[00:43] <togoella> hellonull:  says is already installed
[00:43] <binarical-app> yes neither can I :P
[00:43] <Scunizi> andreferreira_, not much in the way of that outside of NVU and the kde version (forgot the name but it was a fork of nvu) .. screem and bluefish are mostly hand coding.. but with lots of features
[00:43] <GIn> deniz__: works well does not mean it can be configured as an accesspoint. Often cheap cards can't do that.
[00:43] <alperkanat> binarical-app: :)
[00:43] <forrest> Paddy_EIRE, yea it sizes them but there is no padding so I'd like them a bit smalle
[00:43] <deniz__> well isnt there  apage on wiki that says which cards work well and do wat?
[00:43] <Paddy_EIRE> forrest: as I said previously.. :)
[00:44] <Scunizi> Waterloo, just taking a guess here but sounds like a problem with your floppy drive.. if you don't use it disable it in the bios
[00:44] <binarical-app> be right with you
[00:44] <forrest> yea but no matter the size of the panel there isn't any padding on the top and bottom
[00:44] <andreferreira_> Scunizi, sorry, im portuguese, but, are you telling me to develop the html tags using NVU and code PHP using another software like text editor or screem/bluefish ?
[00:45] <axel_> Hello! How to change the group access to a directory and the (sub)directories and files it contains using the console?
[00:45] <Paddy_EIRE> !permissions | axel_
[00:45] <ubotu> axel_: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[00:45] <keithclark>  Is there a way to distribute amongst a local network the work of copying a dvd?
[00:45] <hellonull> togoella: hit alt+F2 and type winecfg
[00:45] <ricanelite> is there a site on what my sources.list suppose to look like? as in for -gusty-security? and for all my repositorys?
[00:46] <Scunizi> andreferreira_, no.. screem and bluefish are easy enough to install and try. if you don't like them just uninstall.. there's just not much available like dreamweaver.. unfortunatly.
[00:46] <vrkhans> hi problem, i just install xubuntu, but the problem is if i leave my computer unattended, like playing music after 10 20 min it stop responding, even i move the mouse, i have to restart to make things work again, let me know what should i do, to fix this
[00:46] <icesword> !slow
[00:46] <ubotu> The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of !Feisty. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[00:46] <nickrud> lol
[00:46] <forrest> how do I get the mac style quick launcher at the bottom of the screen Is see alot of people with?
[00:46] <icesword> lol
[00:47] <Paddy_EIRE> andreferreira_: there is also Kompozer and Quanta Plus which are very good... openoffice also allows for the designing of webpages
[00:47] <binarical-app> alperkanat: can you try http on the local address and port please
[00:47] <filo1234> vrkhans: stop mouse and other usb pheripheicals?
[00:47] <Paddy_EIRE> forrest: you should google... you mean avant-window-navigator..  this channel is for support
[00:47] <alperkanat> binarical-app: it works that way
[00:47] <vrkhans> filo1234, what do you mean
[00:47] <Cahan> lol? the bot things Fiesty was just released?
[00:48] <vrkhans> how can i stop mouse
[00:48] <Scunizi> keithclark, the best way I've found (and I haven't tried a lot of ways) is to make an ISO of the DVD then burn the ISO.. if your computer is just slow and you want to use several machine together for their combined power I think that's called a cluster.. beyond me.
[00:48] <Waterloo> Scunizi: well im trying something interesting here.  This laptop i'm trying to install ubuntu onto has a busted screen, but can port out to my other monitor.  Is there any way I can trick the laptop/ubuntu to this that the auxilary monitor is the primary?
[00:48] <kitche> Cahan: no it's just what the slow trigger says
[00:48] <StPatrick> Command in Irc to search for a user?
[00:48] <forrest> Paddy_EIRE, thanks but I already do google alot, just thought someone would be kind enough to save me the trip this time
[00:48] <deniz__> GIn, my card is well supported in ubuntu from wat i remember, xept my d-link thing
[00:48] <perhamlinux> hello everyone
[00:48] <filo1234> vrkhans: have a mouse usb?
[00:48] <andreferreira_> Paddy_EIRE, thank you! I've tried Kompozer too (AKA eclipse, right?) but no php support too :\ i will see Quanta Plus too! Thank you very much
[00:48] <Paddy_EIRE> forrest: google "mac panel ubuntu" easy
[00:48] <perhamlinux> I have a unichrome pro integrated chip
[00:49] <Waterloo> perhamlinux: hi
[00:49] <vrkhans> you mean usb mouse
[00:49] <forrest> lol
[00:49] <Cahan> kitche, ah, guess it's not been updated or something, amusing all the same
[00:49] <vrkhans> yes
[00:49] <forrest> avant, thanks got it, no need to waste more of your time telling me what to google
[00:49] <Scunizi> Waterloo, maybe in bios or boot from the live cd and then use your laptops key combination to shift output to the external..
[00:49] <filo1234> vrkhans:  and keyboard too?
[00:49] <vrkhans> no
[00:49] <Paddy_EIRE> andreferreira_: kompozer is certainly not eclipse.. not remotely alike :)
[00:49] <perhamlinux> but the via driver is not in the list
[00:49] <icesword> forrest, mac4lin is for you
[00:49] <alperkanat> binarical-app: can you reach the site now ?
[00:49] <nickrud> !google | Paddy_EIRE
[00:49] <ubotu> Paddy_EIRE: google is the helpers' friend; many newer users dont have the google-fu yet; For GNU/Linux:  http://google.com/linux
[00:49] <togoella> where can I get icons for ubuntu? :D
[00:49] <TheTaylorEffect> Forest: the application you're looking for is called Avant-Window-Navigator... or AWN for shot...
[00:49] <perhamlinux> nor the openchrome or unichrome
[00:49] <forrest> icesword, thanks I'll look at that too
[00:49] <filo1234> vrkhans:  keyboard work when your pc is lock?
[00:49] <GIn> deniz__: you can always try ndiswrapper if it doesn't work out of the box. I am using ndiswrapper myself. works perfect :)
[00:49] <icesword> togoella, gnome-look.org
[00:49] <Juuso> togoella www.gnome-look.org
[00:49] <perhamlinux> I'm running on vesa now
[00:50] <GIn> deniz__: it's not hard to setup ndiswrapper
[00:50] <nickrud> togoella art.gnome.org , and search for icon-theme in synaptic
[00:50] <togoella> tghanks
[00:50] <StPatrick> Alright, I have a Toshiba A205-S5800. It has a Realtek RTL8187b Wifi card in it, and I cant get it to work. Someone please help.
[00:50] <emma> Waterloo, could this help --- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=485157
[00:50] <perhamlinux> any ideas how to fix this? the 60hz is killing my eyes
[00:50] <andreferreira_> wow, i guess i read that kompozer is a new name to eclipse at ubuntu
[00:50] <binarical-app> alperkanat: your system is not updating dyndns with your current ip address.
[00:50] <andreferreira_> gutsy
[00:50] <Paddy_EIRE> nickrud: I must remember that factoid.. normally a clean straight pointer saves more irc real-estate :)
[00:50] <vrkhans> both mouse and keybord work, but I can not play the music or edit any document,
[00:50] <macabro22> I am having trouble inserting videos into openoffice.org impress. For some reason, the video files aren't there when I reopen the file(even if its on the same computer).
[00:50] <deniz__> GIn, ya but ndiswrapper is the least of my concers and that doesnt worry me atm, its just how do i transmit my dial-up "to the air" using my card in ubuntu desktop comp
[00:50] <alperkanat> binarical-app: yes it does
[00:50] <deniz__> GIn, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsAirlink101
[00:51] <TheTaylorEffect> Forrest: Here is a link to the AWN launchpad page... it has the most recent packages and a wiki on installation... good luck
[00:51] <TheTaylorEffect> forest: https://launchpad.net/awn
[00:51] <emma> macabro22, that sounds like a question for #openoffice.org
[00:51] <binarical-app> alperkanat: if it was then i would get a responce when i ping you.
[00:51] <binarical-app> alperkanat: "you" your dyndns
[00:51] <alperkanat> :) binarical-app it's ubuntu who blocks your ping request
[00:51] <perhamlinux> I even tried editing xorg.conf, but no luck
[00:51] <StPatrick> Anyone, please?
[00:52] <macabro22> anyone know of a fix for this?
[00:52] <alperkanat> binarical-app: try http://penguix.dyndns.org:8000
[00:52] <deniz__> GIn, http://pastebin.com/d303e62cc
[00:52] <heartsblood> nickrud, I just wanted to let you know, in case anybody else asks, the 10 minute period between crashes was significant.  It turns out that the screen saver was the culprit, but only causes problems in compiz.  I don't know why yet, but disabling the screen saver allows me to run full screen GL apps with compiz running without crashes.
[00:52] <macabro22> emma: people never answer there
[00:52] <GIn> deniz__: #
[00:52] <GIn> 01:0a.0 Network controller: RaLink RT2561/RT61 rev B 802.11g   <-- I have the same chipset ;)
[00:52] <emma> not immediately no. But I get help there from time to time. You have to be patient. Re-ask if an hour goes by.
[00:53] <perhamlinux> guys?
[00:53] <Scunizi> macabro22, I've never tried that but I know inserting a static picture has to be in the right format.. what is the video avi, flac,. etc.. check what it is and re-encode it to something else and try again
[00:53] <deniz__> GIn, so that means wat? i need ndiswrapper to transmit to air?
[00:53] <lordleemo> alperkanat: what language is that finnish ??
[00:53] <binarical-app> alperkanat: stop being invisible man
[00:53] <alperkanat> :)
[00:53] <alperkanat> lordleemo: Turkish
[00:54] <GIn> deniz__: I don't know. I have not tried to set it as an accesspoint.
[00:54] <lordleemo> alperkanat: cool
[00:54] <alperkanat> :)
[00:54] <smith> hi
[00:54] <deniz__> GIn, how would i no wether i need it or not?
[00:54] <alperkanat> it's very amazing for me that you ask it.. it seems (of course) natural to me
[00:54] <smith> with the ubuntu live cd do i need to install anything?
[00:54] <GIn> deniz__: I can connect to the internet with gutsy using that chipset out of the box. but not sure about accesspoint. never done it before
[00:54] <yuri__> hey guys, is there a way to output the result of "ls" to a text file? solmething like $ ls | textoutput text.txt
[00:55] <perhamlinux> anybody?
[00:55] <macabro22> Scunizi: Ok. I tried AVI, MOV and Ogg vorbis. I was able to insert only the lattter. It's not sticking thopugh
[00:55] <deniz__> GIn, wats the first step i need to do to transmit to air?
[00:55] <axel_> ubotu: Thanks.
[00:55] <macabro22> *though
[00:55] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[00:55] <Dr_willis> yuri__,  bash basics man.. command > file.txt
[00:55] <Scunizi> smith, no.. just boot to it.
[00:55] <Dr_willis> yuri__,  the | goes from one Process/command to another ie: ls | sort
[00:55] <StPatrick> Did anyoen even see my question?
[00:55] <perhamlinux> yuri__: $ ls > text.txt
[00:55] <achiang> upgrading from gutsy to hardy seems to have broken video playback -- can repro with wmv, ogg, etc. trolled through bug tracker but didn't see anything informative... surely i can't be the first one to have discovered this?
[00:55] <GIn> deniz__: with transmit to air, do you mean configure it to share the inetrnet connection?
[00:55] <yuri__> thanks everyone
[00:55] <nickrud> heartsblood try using a screensaver that doesn't use gl
[00:55] <Scunizi> macabro22, there might be an option that hasn't been set yet.. you might ask in /join #openoffice.org
[00:55] <Dr_willis> yuri__,  if you want to see and pipe the  output use the tee command. ls | tee > foo.txt
[00:55] <b4l74z4r> whats the difference between xfree86 and xorg?
[00:56] <GIn> deniz__: or just connect to a wireless accesspoint?
[00:56] <deniz__> GIn, ya
[00:56] <ricanelite> how do i get my sources.list working right?
[00:56] <achiang> both totem and mplayer are hosed
[00:56] <keithclark> scunizi, yes, but that would be cool if we could distribute the processing.
[00:56] <deniz__> GIn, no not connect, to share
[00:56] <StPatrick> Anyone, please?
[00:56] <smith> so if I just want to play with ubuntu I can use the live cd?
[00:56] <Scunizi> achiang, ask in #ubuntu+1 about hardy..
[00:56] <achiang> Scunizi: thx
[00:56] <GIn> deniz__: do you have dialup working on that machine with Ubuntu?
[00:56] <Dr_willis> StPatrick,  nope i dident see it.. i saw you asking if anyone saw it...
[00:56] <deniz__> GIn, ya, i am on ubuntu
[00:56] <perhamlinux> ok, it seems that I have no luck here.
[00:56] <StPatrick> lol ill paste it again, Dr_willis
[00:56] <Waterloo> what is the name of the new ubuntu OS?
[00:56] <icesword> hardy
[00:56] <deniz__> Waterloo, hardy heron
[00:57] <heartsblood> Nickrud, that's the thing, my screen saver was 'fade'.  the screen just went black, no GL was being used....I don't think anyway.
[00:57] <Scunizi> keith80403, there's lots of articles on the web about it.. I don't know how easy or hard it is.
[00:57] <Dr_willis> StPatrick,  and i dont do wireless.. sorry. :)  wireless is such a disaster these days.
[00:57] <GIn> deniz__: mhh :( I have never shared a internet connection on Ubuntu before... :\  try google
[00:57] <Scunizi> Waterloo, Hardy Heron.. or 8.04 LTS
[00:57] <togoella> how can I put my trash can on the desktop?
[00:57] <nickrud> heartsblood hm. Oh well, I'll keep that one in mind
[00:57] <deniz__> GIn, :'(...im the worst googler in the whole world
[00:57] <StPatrick> Dr_willis, Alright, I have a Toshiba A205-S5800. It has a Realtek RTL8187b Wifi card in it, and I cant get it to work. Someone please help.
[00:57] <Cahan> Fiesty FTW
[00:57] <Dr_willis> togoella,  dont like it in the panel?
[00:57] <GIn> deniz__: but with the chipset rt25/61 you should be able to.
[00:57] <Scunizi> togoella, why?
[00:57] <macabro22> Scunizi: Ok. I will try that. Thanks
[00:57] <punzada> wait, what's this waterloo nonsense?
[00:57] <togoella> Dr_willis:  no hehe
[00:57] <punzada> lol
[00:57] <punzada> haven't heard that before
[00:57] <Dr_willis> StPatrick,  i would check the ubuntu forums for the specific chipset,m see what others have done.
[00:57] <Waterloo> should be Hardy Hadron amirite?
[00:58] <llantll> StPatrick, !wifi > StPatrick
[00:58] <Dr_willis> togoella,  gotten where i MUCH perfer it in the panel where i can actually get to the thing.
[00:58] <Waterloo> punzada: ?
[00:58] <StPatrick> Dr_willis,  Trust me, I am, Thing IS, I am completely new to linux, and dont really understand a lot of what is being said.
[00:58] <TheTaylorEffect> TRIVIAN: If Hardy were released last month, do you know what the version number would have been?
[00:58] <llantll> BLAH
[00:58] <punzada> oh
[00:58] <chapocer1> I am having an issue with being able to access a Firewire external hard drive (ipod) from ubuntu. I do not have a /dev/dv1394 or /dev/raw1394.
[00:58] <Scunizi> Waterloo, Hardy (name of bird)
[00:58] <punzada> i thought they were saying that 'waterloo' was one of the 8.04 codenames
[00:58] <togoella> uhm ok
[00:58] <punzada> I was confused :P
[00:58] <TheTaylorEffect> 8.03 ;)
[00:58] <Dr_willis> StPatrick,   yep that can be an issue. I just run wires.. sorry cant help.
[00:58] <llantll> !wifi > StPatrick
[00:58] <StPatrick> Dr_willis, for example, Im here right now.  :  http://danmarner.blogspot.com/2008/01/rtl8187b-linux-native-driver-works-on.html
[00:58] <Paddy_EIRE> deniz__: no one is bad at using google providing you have a brain and tha capacity for abstract thought you'll be fine... unless ofcourse they are being willfully dense... which is another story and not worth meeting half way
[00:59] <tyler_d> exit
[00:59] <miko3k> guys, is there some usplash log or somehing ? coz it freezes right after startup without showing anything ...
[00:59] <Waterloo> Scunizi: na im going to call it hardy hadron
[00:59] <ricanelite> why am im failing to fetch some Repository
[00:59] <togoella> how do I Install the icons now?
[00:59] <togoella> :|
[00:59] <andreferreira_> thanks for your help people!!!
[00:59] <Waterloo> in honor of CERN
[00:59] <Dr_willis> StPatrick,  its best to stick with the ubuntu specific forums/guides/docs also.  - It may be that the drivers work and you just cant figure out how to configure the thing with the gnome/kde tools.
[00:59] <andreferreira_> hughs to you ppl
[00:59] <emma> Waterloo, did you get that link? Did you fix your monitor problem?
[00:59] <andreferreira_> see you tomorrow
[00:59] <Scunizi> deniz__, one of the secrets of google for linux is in the address (www.google.com/linux) will try to orient itself to linux referances only
[00:59] <chapocer1> I am having an issue with being able to access a Firewire external hard drive (ipod) from ubuntu. I do not have a /dev/dv1394 or /dev/raw1394.
[00:59] <StPatrick> Dr_willis,  Maybe.. thats why Im here, asking for someone's help.
[01:00] <togoella> how do I Install the icons?
[01:00] <Scunizi> chapocer1, you have a firewire ipod?  I thought they were all usb.
[01:00] <bogdement> my question is simple : what can i use to delete partition of linux and not destroy mbr partition because i want to run windows
[01:00] <Waterloo> emma: yeah i got the link and looked into it.  Then my laptop monitor itself didn't work so I am restarting Live CD in safe graphics mode
[01:00] <Paddy_EIRE> chapocer1: I'm yet to hear of or see a firewire ipod??
[01:00] <Dr_willis> StPatrick,  i notice that guide is missing the point that you NEED to INSTALL the C compiler stuff to compile the drivers..
[01:01] <GIn> lol
[01:01] <StPatrick> the huh?
[01:01] <emma> I'm not sure if that link directly helps. I am not sure if what you are doing is the same as what what was talking about.
[01:01] <chapocer1> Scunizi, its a first gen ipod.. im kickin it old school... if i can get ubuntu to recognize it, its going to get partitioned up and treated as a very crappy external hard drive
[01:01] <Scunizi> bogdement, if you are going to install windows it will take over the entire drive and wipe out most everything.. if you want it to.
[01:01] <emma> They had dual monitors and it talked about setting the default one.
[01:01] <Dr_willis> StPatrick,  you will at least be wanting to install the C compiler :) otherwise you are not going to be compiling any code at all.
[01:01] <StPatrick> =/
[01:01] <Dr_willis> StPatrick,  install the build-essential package.
[01:01] <togoella> How do I install the icons team??
[01:01] <bogdement> i have windows installed already now i am on windows but i want to redistribute the used space from linux
[01:01] <StPatrick> build-essential backage.. where can i get that?
[01:01] <friedtofu> togoella? icons theme?
[01:01] <togoella> yes
[01:01] <Dr_willis> StPatrick,  its in the package manager same as everything else is.
[01:01] <bogdement> and i dont want to broke windows or mbr
[01:02] <Adry> the Open office's menu has an rare font (shapes, circles...). how can I fix it?
[01:02] <Scunizi> chapocer1, ah.. still thought it was usb.. but it might be seen by gparted.. sudo apt-get install gparted. then sudo gparted to run it.
[01:02] <friedtofu> togoella: extract the files and put it in your ~/.themes folder
[01:02] <Dr_willis> StPatrick,  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:02] <friedtofu> *
[01:02] <SilentSounD> anyone know how to disable the "eraser point" mouse for a dell d600 ?
[01:02] <StPatrick> Dr_willis,  Where is that? Maybe you didnt understand what I meant by new...
[01:02] <friedtofu> togoella: extract the files and put it in your ~/.icons folder
[01:02] <Waterloo> emma: no :OD  I am trying to get a sick laptop to use another monitor as its ONLY visual source...linux like to autodetect the monitors and it wants to pick the broken one.
[01:02] <emma> Adry - what do you mean?
[01:02] <friedtofu> yeah... second one - ~/.icons folder
[01:02] <StPatrick> Dr_willis,  What is sudo?
[01:02] <Dr_willis> StPatrick,  if you are so new you dont know how to isntall anything under ubuntu. I suggest reading some of the ubutnu starter guides then.
[01:02] <togoella> where is the ~/.icons folder?
[01:02] <Dr_willis> StPatrick,  sudo is a command you use in the shell.
[01:02] <chapocer1> Scunizi, Ubuntu just isn't even recognizing that i have a firewire driver, it seems.
[01:02] <friedtofu> it'll be in /home/yourname/.icons - and if it isnt there make it
[01:02] <Adry> emma, I can't read the menu because the font is strange
[01:03] <StPatrick> Dr_willis, k, gimme a sec. let me see if i can figure out what your talking about.
[01:03] <Scunizi> Waterloo, if you have another computer you could MAYBE ssh into it and reconfigure for dual monitors..
[01:03] <friedtofu> with mkdir ~/.icons
[01:03] <Dr_willis> StPatrick,  also the ubuntu book at ---> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=instructor.pdf
[01:03] <Dr_willis> is a good read for a total beginner.
[01:03] <emma> Adry - did you try closing and restarting OO.o ?
[01:03] <Waterloo> scunizi: ssh?
[01:03] <Scunizi> chapocer1, ipod's have always been difficult.. gtkpod was one program that got ipods working on ubuntu
[01:04] <boxybrown> before it goes live i am testing and building server on 40GB harddrive, when later i decide to use a larger HD how easy would it be to move everything?
[01:04] <TheTaylorEffect> Hey Guys, is there a way to use install 7.10 with LILO rather then GRUB from the Live CD?
[01:04] <maynards-girl> what's a good media player for ubuntu? i'm not trying to connect to an mp3 player. i just want something I can play mp3s with and edit the tags too.
[01:04] <Scunizi> Waterloo, ssh is a way of connecting to another computer using the terminal.. on a windows machine the default that most people use is putty.. sorry I can't help configure it..
[01:05] <StPatrick> Woo ! Installing, Dr_willis
[01:05] <Adry> emma, this morning I installed the new version2.4, but i can't use it. I think is something about languaje setting, but I don't knnow how or where fix it.
[01:05] <tyler_d> anyone help me troubleshoot a vpn connection problem?
[01:05] <togoella> friedtofu:  done now?
[01:05] <bogdement> so?
[01:05] <Dr_willis> StPatrick,  i couldent get that source to compile properly here... so it may not work anyway for you
[01:05] <emma> Adry - Espanol?
[01:05] <Scunizi> boxybrown, easy.. partimage will mirror the partition and allow you to put it back on the new drive .. then you'll have to go in with parted or gparted and "expand" the partition.
[01:05] <Adry> yes
[01:05] <schlort> maynards-girl: amarok or its gnome counterpart - exaile are great
[01:05] <perhamlinux> maynards-girl, xmms is a good choice. apt-get update && apt-get install xmms
[01:05] <emma> You might try in #ubuntu-es
[01:05] <boxybrown> ok thanks Scunizi thats what i thought
[01:05] <StPatrick> Dr_willis,  *tear*
[01:06] <bogdement> Scunizi
[01:06] <Scunizi> bogdement, yup
[01:06] <[T]ank> i am trying to set up evolution on my ubuntu. I am connecting to an exchange server version 5.5. Exchange connector tells me that it is not compatible with exchange 5.5, but symprex's website says it is... anyone know how i can get past this?
[01:06] <Adry> nobody answer my question
[01:06] <bogdement> you didnt answer on my question
[01:06] <friedtofu> togoella: you put the folder for your icons theme in that .icons folder? - just go to the gnome settings and go select that icon theme
[01:06] <bogdement> i have windows installed already now i am on windows but i want to redistribute the used space from linux
[01:06] <maynards-girl> schlort, what is the gnome conterpart?
[01:06] <bogdement> and i dont want to broke windows or mbr
[01:06] <schlort> maynards-girl: exaile*
[01:06] <friedtofu> or rather in this case - appearances -> and then change the icons... from customize or something
[01:06] <Dr_willis> StPatrick,  its also likely that the next release of ubuntu will  fix your wireless problems. its due out in a few weeks.
[01:07] <maynards-girl> schlort, thanks. i'll try it now
[01:07] <axel_> How to install the php-extensions "curl" and "xmlrpc"?
[01:07] <pyrak> what do i apt-get install for email hosting on my ubuntu server?
[01:07] <StPatrick> I dont have a few weeks... In a few weeks, i  wont need wireless anymore. :(
[01:07] <schlort> maynards-girl: yw
[01:07] <togoella> uhm
[01:07] <Jordan_U> bogdement, Are you trying to make Windows smaller to make room for Ubuntu or get rid of Ubuntu to make more room for windows?
[01:07] <nickrud> bogdement not sure what you mean, you want to remove ubuntu and give the space back to windows?
[01:07] <Scunizi> bogdement, so you're getting rid of Ubuntu... and you wan't to use the empty space for windows.. I suggest joining ##windows and ask there since you'll be using windows tools.  If grub is still installed they can help reinstall the win MBR
[01:07] <mophead> stpatrick, did you try wifi radar? I heard that one works.
[01:07] <Waterloo> ok people this is where I need help - what percent partition should I use?
[01:07] <StPatrick> mophead,  Never heard of it before
[01:08] <Jordan_U> StPatrick, What chipset?
[01:08] <Starnestommy> pyrak: postfix?
[01:08] <Scunizi> Waterloo, for what?
[01:08] <hischild> StPatrick, Dr_willis, sorry if i barge in like this, but may i ask what the problem is and what card you use?
[01:08] <Waterloo> ubuntu to install
[01:08] <emma> Waterloo, I think in order to change the monitor you have to edit the x.org conf file.
[01:08] <StPatrick> Jordan_U,  Im not sure how to get that information, but someone else told me it's a Realtek RTL8187b, and the chipset is RTL8187
[01:08] <Dr_willis> hischild,  go for it. :) i couldent get the stuff to compile. of course I dont even have a wireless card. i was just testing it for him.
[01:08] <pyrak> Starnestommy, does it do imap?
[01:08] <Waterloo> scunizi: to install ubuntu on
[01:08] <togoella> !icons
[01:08] <ubotu> Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (GNOME) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[01:08] <emma> Waterloo, what is your graphics chip set?
[01:08] <Dr_willis> hischild,  http://danmarner.blogspot.com/2008/01/rtl8187b-linux-native-driver-works-on.html
[01:08] <Scunizi> Waterloo, ah.. for a fresh install.. root or / as it is known should be 10-12 gigs.... /swap=1gig max .. /home the rest of the drive.
[01:08] <hischild> Dr_willis, may i ask what you were trying to compile?
[01:09] <StPatrick> hischild,  I have a wifi card, Realtek RTL8187b.  I cant get it to work. been trying for 7 days in different distros now...
[01:09] <mophead> stpatrick, go to applications, add/remove and look up wifi radar
[01:09] <Waterloo> emma: dunno - i'll look into that once I get it going
[01:09] <StPatrick> k
[01:09] <Scunizi> Waterloo, what emma is asking is what kind of video card do you have?
[01:09] <Starnestommy> pyrak: dovecot-imapd can
[01:09] <hischild> StPatrick, alright. And now you're stuck on compiling it?
[01:10] <b4l74z4r> how do i customize compiz in gutsy?
[01:10] <Waterloo> Scunizi: I dont know.  This laptop was given to me
[01:10] <Dr_willis> !ccsm | b4l74z4r
[01:10] <ubotu> b4l74z4r: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[01:10] <Waterloo> Emma: I dont know. This laptop was given to me
[01:10] <StPatrick> hischild, To be honest, No, Im not even to that point yet. I must formatted into Ubuntu, and Im looking for a _solution_ whatever it may be.
[01:10] <Scunizi> Waterloo, from the terminal you can usually find out by typing lspci which lists all devices connected to the pci buss.
[01:10] <StPatrick> hischild, I am, however, using http://danmarner.blogspot.com/2008/01/rtl8187b-linux-native-driver-works-on.html as a reference link.
[01:11] <StPatrick> hischild,  If you have a better idea, please feel free to share :)
[01:11] <Kr|ptiX> does any1 kno how to update a intel 954GM Mobile Drive
[01:11] <hischild> StPatrick, then you'll have to give me a brief overview of what it is you're trying to do. If you're trying to compile that driver, i will assist you in doing so if possible. If there's another problem, we'll fix that as well. So, where do you want to start?
[01:11] <StPatrick> Ok, I installed wifi Radar
[01:11] <Dr_willis> StPatrick,  at least you learned how to install stuff. :)
[01:11] <StPatrick> hischild,  Lets start at the begining. Would you mind hopping into another channel with me?
[01:12] <StPatrick> Dr_willis,  :P Im a quick learner.
[01:12] <hischild> StPatrick, i'd rather keep stuff in here if possible.
[01:12] <hischild> StPatrick, if you have a reason to use a diff channel, i'm willing to listen and switch.
[01:12] <deniz______> GIn, r u there?
[01:12] <Waterloo> emma: its an nVidia which I also have on my desktop.  I'm sure i'll get it rockin once I get ubuntu onto the hardrive :OD
[01:12] <Scunizi> StPatrick, & Dr_willis you should create a channel called #helpStPat
[01:13] <Paddy_EIRE> hischild: he's trying to abduct you :P
[01:13] <Scunizi> StPatrick, & Dr_willis that way if others want to listen in and learn it won't be private
[01:13] <hischild> Paddy_EIRE, that's why i'm trying not to leave ;-)
[01:13] <Paddy_EIRE> lol
[01:13] <StPatrick> hischild,  Sure,  :) I have trouble focusing through several other conversations, and I have had trouble in the past with other people  ... getting involved in a process, and confusing me.
[01:13] <Scunizi> or stay..:)
[01:13] <mophead> stpatrick, you can find wifi radar in applications, internet
[01:13] <Paddy_EIRE> wrong person whoops
[01:13] <CokeNCode> wha's the channel for offtopic stuff, i'm lookig for some info on dreamlinux
[01:13] <StPatrick> mophead,  It's installed, thanks.
[01:13] <Scunizi> CokeNCode, #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:13] <StPatrick> Scunizi,  That was the intention :P
[01:13] <ompaul> !offtopic
[01:13] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:13] <CokeNCode> thanks Scunizi
[01:14] <hischild> StPatrick, as long as you don't see anyone shouting NO, DONT, or anything else out of the ordinary chatter, just follow my advice only and you'll be fine.
[01:14] <StPatrick> hischild,  Ill do my best.
[01:14] <GIn> deniz__, yes I am
[01:14] <hischild> StPatrick, ok. So you downloaded the source i assume?
[01:14] <Scunizi> StPatrick, some would take it as an invite for PM.. :)
[01:14] <StPatrick> Everyone Hear that? I'm ignoring EVERY cept HisChild.
[01:14] <deniz______> GIn, sry i had internet problems
[01:14] <StPatrick> hischild,  Uhh No I have not downloaded anything.
[01:14] <deniz______> GIn, so wat do i do now? forget the laptop and usb and ndiswrapper
[01:15] <StPatrick> hischild,  That's simply a webpage I found with information on my problem
[01:15] <hischild> StPatrick, i see. Do you have that specific version as well?
[01:15] <StPatrick> hischild,  Im nto even sure if it works, or is the best solution.
[01:15] <StPatrick> hischild,  Version of.. what
[01:15] <hischild> Scunizi, it's mainly that i have a headache and could use some oversight :P
[01:15] <hischild> StPatrick, your version of your wlan card.
[01:16] <Scunizi> hischild, must be contagious.. me too.. bad ear.. allergies.. etc..
[01:16] <hischild> StPatrick, do you have a rtl8187b?
[01:16] <StPatrick> hischild,  As far as I know.  How can I check it out?   My laptop is an A205-S5800, but i never found any good solid info on the wifi card online.
[01:16] <GIn> deniz__, google? try to help on the Ubuntu forum?
[01:16] <bobbo85> Hi all, it seems that mplayer is changing the entire computer's volume for some reason.  For example, if I'm listening to music in Amarok/Rhythmbox and watching a movie with mplayer - if I turn the volume down in mplayer, the music gets turned down too... what's the problem?
[01:16] <Zelta> if I have set a manual connection (using ndiswrapper), how can I check my wifi receiving speed?
[01:17] <GIn> deniz__, I have never tried to setup an accesspoint with Ubuntu before.
[01:17] <hischild> StPatrick, lspci or lsusb should give some info. type it in  a terminal and throw it to a pastebin. I'll figure out what card you have if it's listed k?
[01:17] <kindofabuzz> woot! how 'bout dem tigers!
[01:17] <kindofabuzz> =)
[01:17] <nickrud> bobbo85 gutsy doesn't have per app sound control, hardy is rumored to have it, and is going to be released in a few weeks
[01:17] <StPatrick> hischild,  Ok. ( I learned what pastebin is lastnight... )
[01:17] <hischild> Scunizi, well standing about 4 meters from a speaker at a festival is a bad way to get it
[01:17] <hischild> StPatrick, do you know the pastebinit trick?
[01:17] <Scunizi> StPatrick, hischild the toshiba a200 series has a Intel® PRO/Wireless* 3945ABG (802.11a/b/g)
[01:18] <bobbo85> nickrud, to be honest i'm running hardy, i just noticed this problem was around in gutsy too so it's not a problem for the ubuntu+1 channel really
[01:18] <deniz______> GIn, k, ill check the forums, thx for ur time
[01:18] <GIn> np
[01:18] <StPatrick> hischild,  No... I dont know a trick
[01:18] <Scunizi> hischild, ouch
[01:18] <nickrud> bobbo85 you should ask in there, I've seen a lot of discussion about the new pulseaudio setup
[01:18] <bobbo85> ok cool
[01:19] <hischild> StPatrick, ok. Install pastebinit and then pipe the output to it. It'll give you a link which is the pastebin with whatever you piped to it.
[01:19] <StPatrick> hischild,  See now, Dont go listening to scun too fast.. cause he might be wrong.
[01:19] <boxybrown> anyone with mail server experience dovecot or courier?
[01:19] <hischild> StPatrick, Scunizi, i haven't followed the entire story so far. Scunizi how do you know his card?
[01:19] <Scunizi> StPatrick, hischild http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/cmod.to?coid=-33536&seg=HHO&src=MAXG&cm_mmc=google_sem-_-direct-_-satellite_a205-_-a205&gclid=CLXg5KWUxZICFQEhgwodv0bzbg
[01:19] <StPatrick> hischild, http://pastebin.ca/973259
[01:19] <bobbo85> the reason i ask is this - I love VLC media player, and wish I could use it for all videos - the problem I've been having is that it takes forever to seek!  If I try to skip ahead a few seconds, the video will freeze, the audio will continue, and when the video catches up a few seconds later, it's all distorted for a few seconds before returning to normal - mplayer doesn't seem to have this problem
[01:20] <Scunizi> StPatrick, hischild I just googled the model number he posted.
[01:20] <bobbo85> is there any way to make VLC "seek" instantly like other media players?
[01:20] <StPatrick> Scunizi,  Nice... I did that too.. didnt get that page..
[01:20] <Scunizi> StPatrick, top link  :)
[01:21] <hischild> Scunizi, alright thanks.
[01:21] <StPatrick> not when i searched, lol
[01:21] <Dr_willis> bobbo85,  iv noticed a lot of that depends on the exact video codec/format. but i tend touse gmplayer mainly now a days
[01:21] <StPatrick> hischild, Uhh pastebinit is not listed in add/remove
[01:21] <StPatrick> but still, http://pastebin.ca/973259
[01:21] <bobbo85> Dr_willis, what video players do you have/recommend?  and has anyone tried "Beep" yet?
[01:21] <hischild> StPatrick, might be so. Use synaptic. And thanks
[01:21] <StPatrick> what's synaptic?
[01:22] <StPatrick> bobbo85,  I HIGHLY reccomend VLC.
[01:22] <Dr_willis> bobbo85,  beepmediaplayer  is more of a audio player. not video
[01:22] <hischild> StPatrick, system -> administration -> synaptic
[01:22] <Dr_willis> bobbo85,  vlc uses its own codec stuff I think. while gmplayer uses the w32codecs I belive is the main diff.
[01:22] <hischild> StPatrick, advanced version of the add/remove software thing.
[01:22] <Scunizi> StPatrick, just checked and it's in synaptic
[01:22] <StPatrick> hischild,  Ok
[01:22] <Scunizi> StPatrick, use the search key and search for pastebin and you'll see it
[01:22] <hischild> StPatrick, while you're at it, search for this one and tell me if it has a green thing in front of it linux-restricted-modules-generic
[01:23] <bobbo85> Dr_willis, where can I get gmplayer?
[01:23] <Waterloo> now I know it sounds nuts - but what if I wanted to install windows onto a hardrive that is all linux?
[01:23] <xfa> how can i control the headphones and the speakers seperatly?
[01:23] <PwrSurge> hi, I been having this constant problem where ssh connections to my freebsd server keep being disconnected after 5 mins
[01:23] <Dr_willis> bobbo85,  its in the repos.. same as everything else
[01:23] <PwrSurge> from my xubuntu machine
[01:24] <orbisvicis> my computer wont halt, it gets stuck in /etc/rc0.d/S60umountroot stop
[01:24] <hischild> PwrSurge, it's a default timeout. Adjust the timeout on the ssh server.
[01:24] <StPatrick> hischild,  Linux-restricted-mod has green box
[01:24] <PwrSurge> it's not my freebsd server because the connection is stable from my other windows machine
[01:24] <bobbo85> Dr_willis, do you mean "gnome-mplayer" ?
[01:24] <Zelta> if I have set a manual connection (using ndiswrapper), how can I check my wifi receiving speed?
[01:24] <hischild> StPatrick, hmm ... *searches on*
[01:24] <Scunizi> Waterloo, you can do that.. just make room and be prepared to reinstall grub.. it get's wiped out.. on the other hand if you're not going to run any 3d games,, use VMWare server and put it there.. that avoids dual boot.
[01:24] <SilentSounD> anyone know how to disable the "eraser point" mouse for a dell d600 - ALPS GlidePoint
[01:24] <StPatrick> hischild,  Installing pastebinit
[01:24] <niko_> does anyone know how to fix the collection scan on amarok?  i get the "building collection database" and it won't go away
[01:24] <PwrSurge> it's not timeout, i had my ssh session with "top"
[01:24] <IndyGunFreak> Frogzoo: did you get your issues worked out?
[01:24] <Ltp0wer> Hello all
[01:24] <PwrSurge> so the screen was being refreshed every 2 seconds
[01:24] <alexbobp> I'm having a problem with mounting isos for large dvds.  When I try to access files near the end of the disk, I get errors like "cat: setup.exe: Input/output error".  In "dmesg | tail", I see [333026.466404] attempt to access beyond end of device / [333026.466410] loop3: rw=0, want=7076300, limit=6205528".  It tends to work when I use the physical DVD in the drive, and for some ISOs, they only work if I use certain mount points.  Does anybod
[01:25] <Waterloo> Scunizi: what is grub?  and this is the first i've heard of a VMware server
[01:25] <hischild> StPatrick, can you tell me if >>>  lsmod | grep ipw <<< gives you output?
[01:25] <xfa> configuring my headphone output and speakers seperatly?
[01:25] <Dr_willis> bobbo85,  thats where the g in gmplayer comes from. :)
[01:25] <PwrSurge> i have keepalive on every 20 seconds
[01:25] <orbisvicis> do most people have umountroot in init ?
[01:25] <orbisvicis> at S60 in rc0.d ?
[01:25] <StPatrick> mhm
[01:25] <Dr_willis> bobbo85,  kmplayer is the kde front end for mplayer, g is the gnome front end. smplayer is some other front end.
[01:26] <pyrak> Waterloo, grub is the bootloader.
[01:26] <hischild> PwrSurge, one way traffic from the server to the client isn't counted as active.
[01:26] <metbsd> i thought kmplayer is some player on windows
[01:26] <Scunizi> Waterloo, you probably don't see grub because there is not other os on the system.. it's a boot manager and lets you choose between different os installs. VMware server loads in Ubuntu and allows you to install windows "in a window" so you can run windows like any other program but totally isolated (virus protection).
[01:26] <DistroJockey> xfa: take a look at  alsamixer  in a terminal
[01:26] <Dr_willis> metbsd,  not that ive seen.. thers mplayer for windows also.
[01:26] <StPatrick> hischild, Also, I like another chat, because Im trying to copy stuff you say to me, and it keeps getting scrolled off screen....... Im slow.
[01:26] <metbsd> what's difference between vmware server and vmware workstation?
[01:26] <Dr_willis> metbsd,  grabbed it from the mplayer homepage the other day
[01:27] <hischild> StPatrick, you can just select the text i give you and middle mouse click on the terminal to paste it :-)
[01:27] <Dr_willis> metbsd,  with workstation you cant make new virtual machines I belive. I always use the server
[01:27] <StPatrick> nothing from lsmod | grep ipw
[01:27] <Scunizi> hischild, how is pastbinit used from terminal? and does it default to the mentioned pastebin listed for this channel?
[01:27] <StPatrick> hischild,  Yea... uhh Im using a touchpad.
[01:27] <metbsd> yes, i can make new virt machine with workstation
[01:27] <Waterloo> Scunizi: what is the range on programs that can run in a VMware window? no 3d games you say huh?
[01:27] <niko_> does anyone know how to fix the collection scan on amarok?  i get the "building collection database" and it won't go away
[01:27] <mophead> stpatrick: to paste to terminal, try shift + ctrl + v
[01:27] <SkinnYPupp> Middle mouse click paste to terminal learn somethin everyday
[01:27] <PwrSurge> ok
[01:27] <Ltp0wer> Will I have a problem with ubuntu and my 8800GTX
[01:27] <StPatrick> mophead,  Thanks.
[01:28] <jblack> Did anybody do a hardy update today, and found they can't hit sites like google.com and ubuntu.com ?
[01:28] <mophead> to copy, replace V with C
[01:28] <niko_> highlight what oyu want and click the wheel where you want sometihng
[01:28] <xfa> how do i get there
[01:28] <xfa> als
[01:28] <Scunizi> Waterloo, yep.. no 3d games, the vid driver is generic and won't do glx.. but pretty much everything else.. I use it all the time. how much ram do you have?
[01:28] <IndyGunFreak> StPatrick: you can always also turn on logging, then just copy/paste at your leisure
[01:28] <hischild> Scunizi, the default pastebin is not this one unfortunately as for some reason it's incompatible so far. However it works by piping it info from a command. Try to cat a file and then add | pastebinit
[01:28] <Dr_willis> jblack,  They work here for me.
[01:28] <hischild> StPatrick, try hitting both mouse buttons. That should give a middle mouse button click.
[01:29] <Scunizi> hischild, then how do you get a link?. I'll try.
[01:29] <PwrSurge> what setting do i need to adjust exactly?
[01:29] <Waterloo> Scunizi: 2 gigs
[01:29] <charles|64_> hey guys
[01:29] <StPatrick> hischild, Thanks.
[01:29] <mophead> jblack, try asking in #ubuntu+1
[01:29] <jblack> Huh. I cant browse a lot of stuff. I can't hit google, I can't hit ubuntu.com. I just get an assertion that ASSERT: *** Search: _installLocation: engine has no file!
[01:29] <hischild> Scunizi, that's what it gives you.
[01:29] <PwrSurge> and why is only my ubuntu machine affecteed?
[01:29] <Scunizi> Waterloo, your fine with that.. that's what I have.
[01:29] <charles|64_> is there a way to make a symbolic link between to folders
[01:29] <charles|64_> ?
[01:29] <Scunizi> hischild, cool.. that just made using irssi much easier. :)
[01:29] <Dr_willis> charles|64_,  ln -s whatever whatever2
[01:29] <orbisvicis> charles__, ln -s /location /area
[01:29] <orbisvicis> charles__, = charles|64_
[01:29] <legend2440> orbisvicis: i do
[01:29] <orbisvicis> my bad
[01:30] <Dr_willis> it always takes me 2 tries to get links right. :)
[01:30] <Frustation> who have install need for speed most wanted ?
[01:30] <Dr_willis> !appdb | Frustation
[01:30] <ubotu> Frustation: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[01:30] <GIn> Frustation: me but on windows
[01:30] <orbisvicis> Dr_willis, me too, i can never remember
[01:30] <charles|64_> heres what im trying to do, I have a NAS that i want limewire to download to. when i use the fstab to mount that share on the NAS it crashes
[01:30] <Frustation> Because i have a big problem ! When i want to start Need For speed most wanted with CEDEGA my screen is back
[01:30] <Waterloo> Scunizi: wouldn't I have to reformat a part of my drive back into NTFS?
[01:30] <Frustation> is black
[01:30] <Mystik7> does anyone have a link that explains how to properly install firefox nightlies into 8.04?
[01:31] <StPatrick> Frustation, Is it the NFSMW Black edition? :P
[01:31] <niko_> is the actual 8.05 out now?
[01:31] <hischild> StPatrick, ok. Another copy for you ==> sudo modprobe ipw3945
[01:31] <Frustation> StPatrick: it's not good for me :(
[01:31] <niko_> or still alpha or beta?
[01:31] <troxor> niko_: no
[01:31] <hischild> StPatrick, if it fails, type dmesg and pastebin me the last few lines.
[01:31] <niko_> when will it be?
[01:31] <Frustation> StPatrick: it's too bad :(
[01:31] <GIn> Frustation: try with desktop effects off
[01:31] <Dr_willis> charles|64_,  you may want to check out the  fusesmb tools, instead of mountign the share, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FuseSmb
[01:31] <troxor> niko_: niko_ couple weeks
[01:31] <jblack> Ok. Found it. I had another copy of firefox running on another window. So, if people say they can't google, tell them to make sure they really closed firefox. ;)
[01:31] <Frustation> Gin i have do that
[01:31] <niko_> ty
[01:31] <Scunizi> Waterloo, nope.. VMWare uses files to make windows think that it is in a normal drive partition.. so if you wanted to get rid of it.. you just delete the files and it's GONE.  It will also let you install other OS's to try out
[01:32] <bobbo85> Thanks Dr_willis I just installed Gmplayer, it's strange though it will open the movie (a .wmv file) but it wont play it just stays paused on whatever frame I seek to (and it says "playing")
[01:32] <niko_> what improvements will tehre be?
[01:32] <Ltp0wer> newbie here, will I have a problem with my 8800GTX and drivers in ubuntu?
[01:32] <hischild> Ltp0wer, it should be fine
[01:32] <Dr_willis> bobbo85,  i make it a point to not touch wmv files. :) they can be all sorts of weird-spyware-virusware codecs.
[01:32] <Ltp0wer> Sweet, thank you hischild
[01:32] <bobbo85> The same file works slowly in VNC, is choppy and awful in "Movie player" but works perfectly in "mplayer" - i just can't control the sound without affecting all other sounds
[01:32] <Ltp0wer> But if you are wrong, I am going to complain and insult your mother
[01:32] <StPatrick> hischild,  How do i use the pastebin thing i downloaded?
[01:32] <bobbo85> Dr_willis, can I convert them to another video format?
[01:32] <Scunizi> Ltp0wer, on the current version (gutsy) you might have to install the nvidia binary driver.. on the next version coming out the end of this month it will more than likely be included.
[01:33] <Dr_willis> bobbo85,  could try converting the video to some other format I guess. avidmux is the tool i use for that. or mencoder
[01:33] <hischild> StPatrick, add | pastebinit to the command you want to put on pastebin. To try ==> dmesg | pastebinit
[01:33] <Zelta> if I have set a manual connection (using ndiswrapper), how can I check my wifi receiving speed?
[01:33] <Frustation> who can help me ? :(
[01:33] <niko_> does anyone know how to fix the collection scan on amarok?  i get the "building collection database" and it won't go away
[01:33] <Ltp0wer> Scunizi, Where can I find the nvidia binary driver? On the nvidia site?
[01:33] <metbsd> vmware server is slower than workstation
[01:33] <StPatrick> http://paste.stgraber.org/2306
[01:33] <Dr_willis> Ltp0wer,  the restricted-manager tool installed them for me.
[01:33] <unocrash> hey all!
[01:34] <Scunizi> Ltp0wer, yes.. there's lots of how to's on how to install it.. read lots.. do once.. :)
[01:34] <Dr_willis> Ltp0wer,  should be an icon at the top right for it.
[01:34] <FnordPerfect> hi everybody! I fubar'd my installation by downgrading to gutsy. could someone lend a hand? it seems that the root partition does not get re-mounted rw during boot.
[01:34] <hischild> StPatrick, what error did it give you?
[01:34] <BysmuthMage> okay so I'm in the process of installing Ubuntu on an external hard drive.  I disconnected the main drive just to make sure the install doesn't touch it.  This has caused a (potential) problem: The external drive is now named sda instead of sdb.  If I install this based on the external drive = sda and then reconnect the main drive, bumping the external drive to sdb, will there be a conflict, like in /etc/fstab?
[01:34] <Ltp0wer> Dr_willis, I am on vista right now
[01:34] <Dr_willis> Ltp0wer,  you have my sympathy. :)
[01:34] <StPatrick> hischild,  ERROR: Could not find Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection
[01:34] <Scunizi> Dr_willis, I don't think the restriced drivers manager has the 8800 included.. it came out after gutsy did if I remember correctly.
[01:34] <boxybrown> Ltp0wner mine to
[01:34] <hischild> BysmuthMage, ubuntu uses UUID's. It should be fine.
[01:34] <metbsd> Dr_willis: vmware workstation is better. vmware server turns on alot debug mode, so it's slower,
[01:35] <hischild> StPatrick, hmm ... seems like we have to get it somewhere else. Second please.
[01:35] <Devrethman> anybody have StepMania working on ubuntu?
[01:35] <Dr_willis> Scunizi,  i have an 8800 card here.. and it worked for my 8800GTSXXX card.
[01:35] <StPatrick> k
[01:35] <Dr_willis> Scunizi,  but youa re correct - it can depend on the exact 8800 card
[01:35] <Scunizi> metbsd, Dr_willis but vmware workstation is $'s.. server is Free
[01:35] <BysmuthMage> oh right... totally forgot about that I'm so used to the thumb drives borking themselves when I manually put them into /etc/fstab that I didn't even think about that
[01:35] <BysmuthMage> thanks
[01:35] <Scunizi> Dr_willis, oh.. didn't know that.. good to hear.
[01:35] <Dr_willis> Scunizi,  there is a free verison of both i thought
[01:36] <unocrash> when's hardy out?
[01:36] <coskund> heya
[01:36] <Scunizi> Dr_willis, I know server is free.. but thought workstation was a paid version.. check the site www.vmware.com
[01:36] <Scunizi> unocrash, end of this month
[01:36] <unocrash> kk
[01:36] <coskund> hey
[01:36] <Mystik7> I downloaded the firefox nightly today, untar it into /opt (which creates /opt/firefox) then chown -R root /opt/firefox, now I am confused on the firefox.sh script, it says the lib dir is in /usr/lib/firefox-3.0b4, do I need to change the shell script to point to /opt/firefox for the lib?
[01:36] <emma> I'm waiting to see a problem that I can possibly help with. :)
[01:36] <kitche> Scunizi: yeah workstation you have to pay for but most are starting to use server if they want to use workstation
[01:36] <unocrash> !hi | coskund
[01:36] <ubotu> coskund: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:36] <Dr_willis> Scunizi,  used to be workstation was in the repos.
[01:37] <coskund> tenx
[01:37] <softtower> how do I tell from a command line how much ram a process is using? "top" won't work because of two reasons: a) it shows percentage of total, and b) the process I am interested in isn't in the list top is showing me.
[01:37] <Dr_willis> Scunizi,  i always use the server version, so i rarely mess ith workstation
[01:37] <Scunizi> Dr_willis, just player in ther now.
[01:37] <bobbo85> ok Dr_willis I have avidemux installed, how do I convert a .wmv to a .avi file?
[01:37] <mophead> !ubotu | coskund
[01:37] <ubotu> coskund: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:37] <hischild> StPatrick, would you mind if i give you a link from someone on the forums who says they have fixed it, along with a perfect description and then run off to get sleep?
[01:37] <pollito>  -- To Pollito: just ask youe question here :) I'll be leaving now. Talk to me by pm here on IRC...gah
[01:37] <Dr_willis> Scunizi,  i must not understand how 'workstation' differes from 'player' then
[01:37] <StPatrick> bobbo85, Did you try VLC Media player?
[01:37] <unocrash> coskund: May We help you?
[01:37] <Devrethman> also, is there a quick and dirty configurator for NFS or some other form of linux-linux filesharing?
[01:37] <StPatrick> hischild, Yes, but ill still try it.
[01:38] <Dr_willis> bobbo85,  run the program. read its docs/guides.. convert :)
[01:38] <FnordPerfect> I'm just sitting in front of the 80x25 text terminal that my ubuntu has become, and I am losing my mind... could *someone*
[01:38] <hischild> StPatrick, the link ==> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=837922&postcount=7
[01:38] <FnordPerfect> *help* ?
[01:38] <StPatrick> hischild,  I have read over so many things that say I fixed it, or confirmed, or works, or whatever, and failed miserably....
[01:38] <prettyricky> I suggest vlc player thats just my opinion, whats perfectly
[01:38] <bobbo85> StPatrick, VLC media plays the file, but it will not seek - if i try to skip ahead at all, it "lags" for a few seconds at a time
[01:38] <Scunizi> Dr_willis, they may have renamed it player..  server allows you to install a full OS from cd instead of being locked into "appliances"
[01:38] <hischild> StPatrick, if you have help, you can always call at the channel. And this one seems fairly solid.
[01:38] <unocrash> !patience | FnordPerfect
[01:38] <ubotu> FnordPerfect: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:38] <[Rocc]> Hello
[01:38] <Dr_willis> Scunizi,  that dosent make much sence they wouls charge for player,and give away server free. when it does everything the player does.
[01:38] <StPatrick> hischild,  So i doubt this will be better, BUT You have aslready helped me a lot, and i know you need sleep, so, thank you
[01:39] <unocrash> [Rocc] Hi
[01:39] <[Rocc]> I need help :(
[01:39] <pyrak> ok, installing postfix and dovecot looks _extremely_ complicated
[01:39] <unocrash> !hi | [Rocc]
[01:39] <ubotu> [Rocc]: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:39] <hischild> StPatrick, if i'm around tomorrow, feel free to give me a shout and remember me to help you out then.
[01:39] <pyrak> is there an easier way?
[01:39] <emma> softtower, maybe try ps aux|less
[01:39] <unocrash> ok
[01:39] <hischild> StPatrick, good luck and see you soon.
[01:39] <unocrash> what's the problem?
[01:39] <niko_> does anyone know how to fix the collection scan on amarok?  i get the "building collection database" and it won't go away
[01:39] <softtower> emma: thanks, lemme try.
[01:39] <StPatrick> hischild,  Thanks man. Sleep well.
[01:39] <mophead> !ask | [Rocc]
[01:39] <ubotu> [Rocc]: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[01:39] <hischild> StPatrick, will do. bb
[01:40] <Scunizi> Dr_willis, nooooo... not what I meant.. there is a workstation version available..for enterprise..paid.. player uses appliances.. server is free and allows installs
[01:40] <unocrash> [Rocc]
[01:40] <unocrash> whats the problem?
[01:40] <[Rocc]> Um, ok... i just downloaded the desktop version (7.10) and im trying to install it and i cant find where to install it at....
[01:40] <niko_> set to boot from cd in the bios
[01:40] <Dr_willis> [Rocc],  you burnt the iso to cd.. booted it? see icons on the live-cd desktop?
[01:41] <Acomaco> how big is an integer normaly? its not 2^32?
[01:41] <[Rocc]> yeah, i burnt it... and i cant find the bios...
[01:41] <unocrash> [Rocc]: Boot to the CD. To do that depends on the computer. Dell usually has you hit the F12 key, while apple requires you to hit the c key i think.
[01:41] <niko_> push delete during the bootup
[01:41] <[Rocc]> its a hp
[01:41] <niko_> repeatedly
[01:41] <niko_> or one of the f keys
[01:41] <unocrash> !bios | [Rocc]
[01:41] <n-iCe> how do I get the last msn version I can't get it installed :<
[01:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bios - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:41] <charles|64_> so im trying to create a read write mount and then link it to the music
[01:42] <metbsd> linux does not work well on laptops, my experience
[01:42] <rootlinuxusr> does on mine
[01:42] <niko_> runs fine on my laptop
[01:42] <Dr_willis> [Rocc],  how did you burn it? what files are on the cd? if you see a single .iso file on the cd.. you burnt it wrongly
[01:42] <Devrethman> dumb question: how do I burn data DVDs
[01:42] <n-iCe> !amsn
[01:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amsn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:42] <emma> metbsd seems to work well on thinkpads
[01:42] <Devrethman> like, what program do I use
[01:42] <niko_> get double the time as xp with 40 processes
[01:42] <Mystik7> do I like the firefox command to the /opt/firefox.sh shell script? to get it to run from that location? or do I use the dpkg util to alter the link?
[01:42] <Mystik7> like=link
[01:42] <[Rocc]> um dr there is only 1 iso, thats the one i got from the site....
[01:42] <Dr_willis> metbsd,  i find ubuntu works better on my latop then any disrto ive tried. It beats XP that used to be on it. :)
[01:42] <Dr_willis> [Rocc],  congratulations.. you burnt it wrongly.
[01:42] <niko_> did you burn it as an iso or just files?
[01:42] <tarelerulz> any of you know about chat networks that use flash player ? If so how to you set your sound up ?
[01:43] <unocrash> n-Ice: MSN is not made for Linux. You can, however, use pidgin, gaim, amsn, or Emensce
[01:43] <[Rocc]> iso
[01:43] <[Rocc]> why?
[01:43] <mophead> n-iCe, go to applications, add/remove and look up msn.  I think there is a linux version
[01:43] <niko_> or wine msn lol
[01:43] <n-iCe> unocrash:  amsn I meant
[01:43] <sailaway85> Hi everyone
[01:43] <[Rocc]> i havent done this before....
[01:43] <unocrash> Hi!
[01:43] <Renardp> When I try to run a program I have the following error ... Received a second signal - exiting
[01:43] <Dr_willis> [Rocc],  track down a specific tool for windows to burn iso images to cd.  :) like 'burn at once' or a dozen others...
[01:43] <osxdude|laptop> ugh
[01:43] <Dr_willis> [Rocc],  do Not use the windows drag/drop to cd to burn method.
[01:43] <[Rocc]> i didnt
[01:43] <metbsd> using linux, my laptop webcam, card reader, and Fn keys don't work anymore
[01:43] <niko_> use power iso or something
[01:43] <[Rocc]> i burnt it from a program
[01:44] <niko_> as an iso
[01:44] <metbsd> so linux is not good for my laptop
[01:44] <chapocero> how do i find out what the label is for a certain Firewire device? i only have one hard disk installed (sda).. i think its going to be sdb, but what is the command to check?
[01:44] <[Rocc]> i used active iso
[01:44] <StPatrick> Ok, Someone save me,. I'm running into problems again
[01:44] <unocrash>  [Rocc]: theres a program called ISO Burner. Let me get you the website.
[01:44] <n-iCe> unocrash:  how do I get the last version?
[01:44] <rootlinuxusr> only my wireless doesn't work on a dell insp. 1721
[01:44] <Dr_willis> [Rocc],  you need to use the 'burn image' options not making a normal cd like you would with picutre or other files.
[01:44] <SlimG> Anyone here know of a Ubuntu(ish) WordPress theme (not Udienz's tango theme)?
[01:44] <[Rocc]> i did dr...
[01:44] <sailaway85> Ultraiso is a great program
[01:44] <mophead> stpatrick, that sounds dangerous.  what happened?
[01:44] <rootlinuxusr> ultraiso is good
[01:44] <Mystik7> I eated my cd
[01:44] <Dr_willis> [Rocc],  you did it wrong then.. otherwise there wouldent be a single .iso on the cd.
[01:45] <[Rocc]> how many would there be then?
[01:45] <Dr_willis> [Rocc],  several 1000+ files.
[01:45] <StPatrick> mophead,  Im following the instrustions, as best i can on http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=837922&postcount=7
[01:45] <sailaway85> Whats a good dvix converter  ... to dvd
[01:45] <StPatrick> mophead let me know when you get there, and I'll tell you where im having trouble.
[01:45] <[Rocc]> lemme check it again
[01:45] <rootlinuxusr> i made you a cd, but i eated it?
[01:45] <metbsd> is there ultraiso on linux?
[01:45] <unocrash> [Rocc]:
[01:45] <Dr_willis> [Rocc],  so try 'burn at once' or 'ultraiso' or 'isoburner' or proberly a dozen other tools out that can do ut with a simple double click.
[01:45] <punzada> sailaway85,
[01:46] <punzada> best solution i found for that was using ffmpeg to transcode into mpeg2
[01:46] <[Rocc]> yeah there is more then 1
[01:46] <[Rocc]> lol
[01:46] <sailaway85> Yes punzada
[01:46] <mophead> stpatrick, ok I see it.  what's causing trouble?
[01:46] <boxybrown> how would you add a user using a setup as described in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MySQLVirtualEmail
[01:46] <StPatrick> Attention : Anyone Willing to PLEASE help me get my wireless working, Im creating #HelpStPat  Please join, so we can discuss without interruption.
[01:46] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: I believe F9 is the boot selection key for HP's and F10 is the BIOS
[01:46] <metbsd> btw, office2007 is really nice too
[01:46] <[Rocc]> k
[01:46] <Scunizi> metbsd, no need for it.. k3b works great for all burning as well as gnomebaker
[01:46] <unocrash> [Rocc] http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm  There should be onl0y one file. That file should be an .iso file. Use the program on the website (V2 for XP/2003 or V3 for Vista all versions)
[01:47] <tarelerulz> sailaway85  can turn an .avi which holds divx video to a dvd mpg2 file that will work on a stand alone dvd playt it all can put menus on the dvd
[01:47] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: it should say in the bottom right corner at the HP splash screen
[01:47] <emma> htop is pretty cool. Anyone who likes top should install it.
[01:47] <StPatrick> Scunizi, Come to #HelpStPat
[01:47] <SlimG> Anyone here know of a Ubuntu(ish) WordPress theme (not Udienz's tango theme)?
[01:47] <metbsd> i like girl on top
[01:47] <rootlinuxusr> what's htop?
[01:48] <[Rocc]> i got nothing :(
[01:48] <orbisvicis> htop = cool top
[01:48] <rootlinuxusr> also i don't think there is a WP theme based on Ubuntu...wish there was
[01:48] <metbsd> what's WP theme
[01:48] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: what model HP?
[01:48] <rootlinuxusr> wordpress
[01:48] <[Rocc]> um
[01:48] <unocrash> SlimG: OpenOffice.org (It's an applcation and a website)
[01:48] <orbisvicis> is anyone amazed by this: runlevel
[01:48] <orbisvicis> 2 0
[01:48] <Mystik7> I am amazed
[01:48] <[Rocc]> HP pavilion 700
[01:49] <StPatrick> #HelpStPat for anyone willing to take on the challenge that IS MY WIRELESS!
[01:49] <SlimG> rootlinuxusr: Udienz has a theme for Ubuntu (not great imho): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Udienz/WordpressUbuntuTheme
[01:49] <astr0bomber> hello room, i need some serious help getting my wireless adapter recognized in Ubuntu. i have tried the forums and everything and stuff and still no luck. if you are willing to help or at least hear my situation, please message me
[01:49] <rootlinuxusr> yeah, but someone else was asking if there was any others..
[01:49] <SlimG> unocrash: huh?
[01:49] <StPatrick> astr0 is it a Realtek 8187b?
[01:49] <boxybrown> how can i find out if/what progs are listening on what ports on my system?
[01:49] <unocrash> Openoffice.org
[01:49] <astr0bomber> StPatrick no its an SMC
[01:49] <Mystik7> mine is a realtek 8187b
[01:49] <unocrash> It comes installed on Ubuntu
[01:49] <orbisvicis> Mystik7, ty ; ) considering i just came out of runlevel 0 ; )
[01:49] <Mystik7> I am running ndiswrapper (eek)
[01:50] <StPatrick> astr0bomber,  k, sry
[01:50] <SlimG> unocrash: I didn't ask anything OOo related, wrong guy?
[01:50] <orbisvicis> ... and am still in runlevel 0
[01:50] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: try F10 or F1
[01:50] <unocrash> ?
[01:50] <bnex10>         SubSection "Display"
[01:50] <bnex10>                 Depth   24
[01:50] <bnex10> should i change 24 to 32?
[01:50] <kitche> orbisvicis: umm 0 means shutdown
[01:50] <Frogger626> Hello again
[01:51] <metbsd> openoffice is ugly compare to office2007
[01:51] <unocrash> yeah
[01:51] <unocrash> brb
[01:51] <unocrash> I got to restart
[01:51] <Mystik7> I wonder if there will be kernel support for Realtek 8187b soon
[01:51] <Dr_willis> office2007 is very pricy compared to openoffice.
[01:51] <Dr_willis> :)
[01:51] <[Rocc]> Um
[01:51] <[Rocc]> didnt work
[01:51] <Frogger626> Um, the fac someone gave me, about the GRUB problem didn't work. I didn't find those settings in my BIOS.
[01:51] <Dr_willis> Mystik7,  you see the guy in #ubuntu asking about that card also ?
[01:52] <bnex10> BRB going to restart X
[01:52] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: :(
[01:52] <metbsd> my office2007 on windows is cracked
[01:52] <[Rocc]> um
[01:52] <Frogger626> bad boy
[01:52] <Mystik7> Dr_willis: no, its scolling a little fast :(
[01:52] <Dr_willis> Mystik7,  we were just discussing if hardy had that card now or not.
[01:52] <[Rocc]> f1 usally would :(
[01:52] <orbisvicis> kitche, but:$ runlevel
[01:52] <orbisvicis> 2 0 // <-- shutdown does not work !
[01:52] <Frogger626> ermmm...
[01:52] <methods> what package has the expect program ?
[01:52] <Dr_willis> Mystik7,  i wonder if the live cd would be a good test to see.
[01:53] <[Rocc]> Is there any other way i could do it?
[01:53] <Mystik7> Dr_willis: I am running latest test kernel, but I don't want to uninstall ndiswrpper just to see
[01:53] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: so you can tell it to boot from cd, but it just isn't?
[01:53] <Dr_willis> Mystik7,  heh - i dont even have a wireless card. :)
[01:53] <[Rocc]> umm
[01:53] <SkinnYPupp> I can't vouch for it but someone seems to have a Realtek 8187b workaround  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-679457.html
[01:53] <sailaway85-1> My combination of a ati 2600hd and a ibm p260 monitor have caused me nightmares. If i go into setting and change anything from 1600 x 1200 the system will either crash or sinc out of colour.  If I try to go back to the default the system wont change.  help
[01:54] <style23> I installed firefox 3.0 with the sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0 command but when I goto firefox and look in the help->about it still tells me 2.0 ?
[01:54] <Waterloo> see ya in a bit
[01:54] <kitche> style23: it will but it will have some really odd version number
[01:54] <[Rocc]> hmmm
[01:54] <[Rocc]> is there any other way?
[01:55] <[Rocc]> i just entered "setup"
[01:55] <style23> kitche it says 2.0.0.13
[01:55] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: you didn't answer my question. And if you are speaking to me, you should put my name in the reply
[01:55] <Dr_willis> [Rocc],  on some machines theres a real fast 'hit F10 (or other)  to select boot disk' item.
[01:55] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: ok, goto where you can change the boot order
[01:56] <Survivorman> style23, did you close your browser windows first, then open another instnace.
[01:56] <IndyGunFreak> Dr_willis: hmm, mine is hit esc..
[01:56] <[Rocc]> DistroJockey, im there...
[01:56] <style23> survivorman I restarted the computer
[01:56] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: cool, you see something about booting?
[01:56] <Dr_willis> IndyGunFreak,  esc here goes to the bios screen, F10 has its own 'select boot disk/cd/usb' menu :) which is handy
[01:56] <Frustation> hello i have a problem with need for speed most wanted :( he don't want to run
[01:56] <IndyGunFreak> Dr_willis: oh ok.. ,
[01:56] <Frustation> with cedega
[01:56] <Survivorman> did you uninstall firefox 2? It might have another command to open it.
[01:56] <rootlinuxusr> any basic guides for compiz that work on dell integrated x1270 ati cards? I really wanna see what I'm missing out on.
[01:57] <Dr_willis> Frustation,  check the cedega forums yet?
[01:57] <style23> nope I didn't uninstall firefox2
[01:57] <IndyGunFreak> rootlinuxusr: i'll tell you, nothing.
[01:57] <kitche> style23: anyways firefox 3 uses firefox-devel as the command to start it
[01:57] <[Rocc]> DistroJockey, I get Removable device, IDE Hard Drive, ATAPO CD-ROM, Other Boot Device...
[01:57] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: when you do, put cd/dvd first then HDD second
[01:57] <IndyGunFreak> !ati | rootlinuxusr you need to get your ati driver working, the you can install compiz
[01:57] <ubotu> rootlinuxusr you need to get your ati driver working, the you can install compiz: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:57] <Frustation> Dr_willis: i have buy cedega and the game can't run my game ! :(
[01:57] <bnex10> Frustation, what game are you trying to run?
[01:58] <style23> kitche do you type that command somewhere
[01:58] <Frustation> bnex10: NFS most wanted
[01:58] <[Rocc]> DistroJockey, what?
[01:58] <Frustation> TransGaming Cedega Version 6.0.2
[01:58] <Survivorman> you can install cedega for free through svn
[01:58] <kitche> style23: in the terminal
[01:58] <Dr_willis> Frustation,   You just said you were using cedega...     theres a free demo of cedega also I think.
[01:58] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: so it would be:  ATAPO CD-ROM, IDE Hard Drive, Removable device, Other Boot Device
[01:58] <style23> kitche whats the whoe command
[01:58] <Mystik7> does anyone know if there any apps similar to street atlas for ubuntu, that can use usb GPS?
[01:58] <Dr_willis> Frustation,  and the wine appdb may have info on that specific game
[01:58] <bnex10> damned thing didn't use 32 bit color mode....... BRB again
[01:58] <Frustation> Dr_willis: nonono i have install my game
[01:59] <kitche> style23: firefox-devel to start firefox3
[01:59] <astr0bomber> i think i have the driver for my wireless adapter, how do i install it in ubuntu??
[01:59] <Frustation> Dr_willis: i can run NFS with wine ?
[01:59] <[Rocc]> DistroJockey, i dont get those options for removable...
[01:59] <Frustation> Dr_willis: how it's possible to do ?
[01:59] <Frogger626> Does anyone know a channel for grub help? And not #grub. Been there, tried talking to slugs.
[01:59] <rootlinuxusr> best setup for Diablo 2?
[01:59] <Dr_willis> Frustation,  installed it how? You mwan with wine? cedega is wine.
[01:59] <[Rocc]> DistroJockey, wait what?
[01:59] <Dr_willis> Frustation,  you now have everyone totally confused I think.
[01:59] <Dr_willis> Frustation,  wine is whats normally used to run windows apps. cedega is just a spinoff of wine with a game focus.
[01:59] <Frustation> Dr_willis: but... wine is wine and cedega is cedega it's more different no ?
[01:59] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: can you move items up and down in that list maybe with + / - or PgUp / PgDown ?
[02:00] <IndyGunFreak> Frogger626: i had an idea that might fix your situation.
[02:00] <[Rocc]> DistroJockey, yeah i can
[02:00] <Dr_willis> Frustation,  cedega = wine+tweaks
[02:00] <IndyGunFreak> i was thinking about it after you left
[02:00] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: sweet :)
[02:00] <Frustation> Dr_willis: okay and with wine i can run Most wanted ?
[02:00] <[Rocc]> DistroJockey, ...ok
[02:00] <Mystik7> hmm I wonder if Street Atlas works under wine with usb gps device
[02:00] <Dr_willis> Frustation,  check the wine app database web page.
[02:00] <style23> kitche it keeps telling me command not found
[02:00] <Dr_willis> !appdb | Frustation
[02:00] <ubotu> Frustation: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[02:00] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: save and exit and give it a go
[02:00] <Hailsematary> exit
[02:00] <IndyGunFreak> Frogger626: join me in #indygunfreak  /join #indygunfreak
[02:00] <ader10> Brasero fails to load, and I would like to be able to fix it without restarting the system. Any ideas?
[02:00] <Frustation> Dr_willis: i have wine on my computer but what i must doing ?
[02:01] <[Rocc]> DistroJockey, do i edit them?
[02:01] <Frustation> *do
[02:01] <Dr_willis> Frustation,  you said you installed the game... how did you install it? I would do a 'wine /path/to/media/cdrom/setup.exe' my self to start the installer.
[02:01] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: just have CD first then Hard drive second
[02:01] <Dr_willis> Frustation,  if you just doubleclicked the .exe and it installed.. then it started wine by itself to install.
[02:02] <Mystik7> I am confused by all the sym links to sym links that goto yet more sym links with the firefox install in squishy heron
[02:02] <[Rocc]> DistroJockey, What.... cd on removable?
[02:02] <style23> kitche it keeps telling me command not found
[02:02] <Frustation> Dr_willis: but i haven't do update to wine
[02:02] <cached> I once heard that it is not advised to install wine through apt-get, is this still the case?
[02:02] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: which ever one your Ubuntu disk is in
[02:02] <Frustation> Dr_willis: when i doubleclic on my game.exe wine run any
[02:02] <kitche> style23: don't know what ubuntu actually calls it but the one from mozilla is firefox-devel might be firefox3 maybe
[02:02] <[Rocc]> DistroJockey, i have no clue though
[02:03] <Dr_willis> Frustation,   i never double click on the exe's i alwyas use the terminal.  that way i see any wine error messages.
[02:03] <Rafabe> hi, anyone here use Thunderbird?
[02:03] <jordan_> cached, No, and I have never heard such a thing claimed
[02:03] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: if you have 2 CD entries, put them both above IDE hard drive
[02:03] <Mystik7> kitche: Hardy Heron latest has firefox 3 b2 by default I think
[02:03] <rootlinuxusr> thunderbird yes.
[02:03] <mophead> Hey guys, does anyone want to help out with a wireless issue? it's over at #helpstpat
[02:03] <Frustation> with the terminal ? can you send me the command plz ?
[02:03] <jordan_> cached, Especially since the wine devs themselves have an Ubuntu repository
[02:03] <Rafabe> root: was it a new profile or did you import stuff from a Windows installation?
[02:03] <Dr_willis> Frustation,  you use wine, or cedega to run the installer, it should add icons in the menus for the games. If the game dosent work check the wine app database to se eif theres any tweaks for the game. It  MIGHT be totally unplayable with wine.
[02:03] <jordan_> !hardy | Mystik7
[02:03] <ubotu> Mystik7: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[02:03] <rootlinuxusr> two new profiles
[02:03] <Rafabe> allright, nevermind then
[02:04] <ader10> Half of my applications fail to load (I think it's a gtk problem). Any help/ideas please?
[02:04] <rootlinuxusr> problems importing?
[02:04] <StPatrick> Ok, I need a guide.
[02:04] <Rafabe> No, I haven't been able to attempt it (my Ubuntu desktop is currently in repairs) and wanted to know if a Linux copy could import a Windows profile
[02:04] <StPatrick> I need like.. a Linux Spiritual guide. WHo wants to Volunteer.
[02:04] <Frustation> Dr_willis: I have used cedega to run the installer, and NFS can't run and today i want to run the game with wine if it's possible to do
[02:04] <StPatrick> You'll be working directly with me to get my wifi working.
[02:05] <rootlinuxusr> Rafabe, it should be possible
[02:05] <StPatrick> And I'll be listening, and learning from you,
[02:05] <bobbo85> anyone know where I could find a guide on using avidemux to convert .wmv to avi?  I have only found guides to use the CLI with mencoder
[02:05] <StPatrick> You can maybe claim it as charity on your taxes.
[02:05] <charles|64_> ok the skydome is cutting off the bottom of my image whats up with that
[02:05] <Dr_willis> Frustation,  'wine /path/to/the/setup.exe' to run the installer,  for a start
[02:05] <StPatrick> Someone, please, help me.
[02:05] <StPatrick> #HelpStPat
[02:05] <Mystik7> I am bill gates, I decided I hated vista, so here I am
[02:05] <amenado> StPatrick-> a broadcom 43xx chip?
[02:05] <StPatrick> amenado,  Nope...
[02:05] <SkinnYPupp> StPatrick: #debian also good info
[02:05] <[Rocc]> DistroJockey, i have Query'd you
[02:05] <Rafabe> root: yeah but I'd like to know for sure :P I tried the support forums, I tried the IRC channel, no response
[02:05] <kitche> StPatrick: just ask some questions and someone will anwser if they know the answer
[02:05] <Frustation> Dr_willis: i must run the installer of NFS most wanted ?
[02:05] <icesword> Mystik7, LOL
[02:05] <charles|64_> never mine
[02:05] <charles|64_> *mind
[02:06] <kitche> SkinnYPupp: to bad they won't help ubuntu people if they know :)
[02:06] <Dr_willis> Frustation,  or wine /path/to/where/cedega/installed/it/gameprogramname.exe
[02:06] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: I did not see any such query
[02:06] <tono> hey
[02:06] <SkinnYPupp> Yep
[02:06] <Pelo> bobbo85, I don,t think you can use avidemux to do it , but if it can, just load the wmv , and on the left side change copy to somethingelse
[02:06] <Dr_willis> Frustation,  its proiberly better to just reinstall with wine
[02:06] <ader10> Half of my applications fail to load (I think it's a gtk problem). Any help/ideas please?
[02:06] <amenado> StPatrick-> stay here so others can share
[02:06] <StPatrick> kitche,  I have been doing that, ketche My question is I dont understand this guide. Someone please help me get through it. http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=837922&postcount=7
[02:06] <Frustation> Dr_willis: i must reinstall with wine ? :(
[02:06] <rootlinuxusr> i could boot into windows to double-check...but i'd feel nasty...
[02:06] <Dr_willis> Frustation,  try one or the other.. dont whine about wine.
[02:06] <meoblast001> hello
[02:06] <Dr_willis> Frustation,  if you know where cedega installed it to..use wine /path/whatever/whatever.exe
[02:07] <Frustation> Dr_willis: but when i put the CD wine don't run the CD
[02:07] <SkinnYPupp> StPatrick: What is your wireless card again ?
[02:07] <cdavis> with he 2.6.22-14-generic kernel do I get smp support?
[02:07] <Frustation> Dr_willis: yes i know where cedega installed it
[02:07] <mophead> stpatrick, tell everyone where you stopped and what error you got
[02:07] <meoblast001> how do you change the screen resolution in Ubuntu on a PS3.... its really small....?
[02:07] <Frustation> Dr_willis: i go to use wine :D
[02:07] <bobbo85> thanks Pelo, it's kinda tough being a newbie and just blindly copying and pasting commands into the cli ya know?
[02:07] <meoblast001> also..... where can i find WINE for PPC?
[02:07] <Dr_willis> Frustation,  given that you havent checked the wine app database. you dont know if either will play the game. if cedga cant handle it - i doubt if the wine in ubuntu can either
[02:08] <rootlinuxusr> meoblast001 http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/pipermail/yellowdog-general/2004-June/014468.html ?
[02:08] <Frustation> Dr_willis: i can't play the game :(
[02:08] <Pelo> bobbo85,  I know ,  but you get use to it ,  you can also look in the forum for someting called convertit , it's an all in one videoconverter
[02:08] <[Rocc]> DistroJockey, Are you still here?
[02:08] <StPatrick> SkinnYPupp,  My card is Intel® PRO/Wireless* 3945ABG (802.11a/b/g)
[02:08] <bobbo85> for example right now Pelo I typed in mencoder infile.wmv -ofps 23.976 -ovc lavc -oac copy -o outfile.avi, and I have no idea what ofps or 23.976 or -ovc lavc -oac copy -o .... like what is all of that?!
[02:08] <Dr_willis> Frustation,  http://appdb.winehq.org/search_results.php?cx=013271970634691685804%3Abc-56dvxydi&cof=FORID%3A11&q=need+for+speed&sa=Search#30
[02:08] <Frustation> Dr_willis: how i cjeck the wine app database ?
[02:08] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: if you mean a private message, then you will need to register your nick to be able to do that
[02:08] <Dr_willis> Frustation,  its a web site you go to..you enter the game name in the search field.. rather stright forwared. :)
[02:08] <SkinnYPupp> StPatrick: I'll put that in the google swamp
[02:09] <Frustation> Dr_willis: okay
[02:09] <ader10> Half of my applications fail to load (I think it's a gtk problem). Any help/ideas please?
[02:09] <Dr_willis> !appdb | for the 4th time Frustation
[02:09] <ubotu> for the 4th time Frustation: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[02:09] <Pelo> bobbo85,  those are image ratios,  audio and video format and the like
[02:09] <StPatrick> Everyone, At the link i listed above, I m on the step just past chmod a+x remove-old && sudo ./remove-old
[02:09] <StPatrick> I do not understand it.
[02:09] <StPatrick> I dont speak Linux
[02:09] <StPatrick> Here's link again
[02:09] <StPatrick> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=837922&postcount=7
[02:09] <Stroganoff> is there something BETWEEN xpaint and gimp (not kpaint)
[02:09] <bobbo85> oh and Pelo, the terminal has just been saying "skipping frame!" and counting up "pos:  3640.2s" it's at 90% complete right now but I bet it's all blank/skipped frames - is there any way to cancel it?
[02:10] <unocrash> !hi | unocrah
[02:10] <ubotu> unocrah: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:10] <Frustation> Dr_willis: it's for me the Current ! http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=8714 but i don't know how i must take the file !
[02:10] <Pelo> bobbo85,  just close the terminal
[02:10] <unocrash> i know many ubotu commands
[02:10] <PwrSurge> i'm doing a ping bacak to myself
[02:10] <Pelo> !ubotu > unocrash check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[02:10] <PwrSurge> see if it still timesouts
[02:10] <munichlinux> hi all i upgraded from 7.04 to 7.10 and the after upgrade the X server failed
[02:10] <munichlinux> FreeFonthPath: FPE "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc + ubuntu update
[02:11] <munichlinux> so what is the patch ?
[02:11] <Dr_willis> Frustation,  that made no sence to me wwhat so ever.. searh for your specific game at the appdb website. see if they say its playable, or what tweaks they needed to do to get it playable.
[02:11] <Dr_willis> Frustation,  also it may need a newer version of wine to make it playable.
[02:11] <dunnix> I woke up this morning with a ubuntu update message suggesting a "partial upgrade"  I did it, and now firefox 3.0 is no there... I am using 8.04 hardy   any ideas?
[02:11] <Krzzzz> hello folks
[02:11] <Pelo> munichlinux, do a search for the error msg in he forum  www.ubuntuforums.org
[02:11] <meoblast001> rootlinuxusr; i only want WINE... not qemu
[02:11] <c0ldfusion> !ubuntu+1 | dunnix
[02:11] <ubotu> dunnix: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[02:11] <meoblast001> rootlinuxusr: do i really have to download all those RPM's?
[02:11] <Dr_willis> Frustation,  thers so many variants of that game. I dont know what one you have specifically
[02:12] <Pelo> dunnix, ask in #ubuntu+1
[02:12] <unocrash> !ubuntu+1 > dunnix
[02:12] <Frustation> Dr_willis: i need the version to ubuntu 7.10 Gusty x86
[02:12] <dunnix> thanks!
[02:12] <unocrash> !ubuntu+1 | dunnix
[02:12] <ubotu> dunnix: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[02:12] <[Rocc]> Could anyone help me?
[02:12] <unocrash> [Rocc]: Whats the prob?
[02:12] <Frustation> Dr_willis: i have Ati Radeon 9200 and Amd Athlon 2400+ with Processesor 2gz and 750 Ram
[02:12] <c0ldfusion> !anyone | [Rocc]
[02:12] <ubotu> [Rocc]: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:13] <wobbiebobbie> yes rocc
[02:13] <Frustation> Dr_willis: i have ubuntu 7.10 with gusty
[02:13] <i_r_leenucks_man> Rocc, state the question please....
[02:13] <Dr_willis> Frustation,  wine and some games with ATI cards - dont work too well also..
[02:13] <SilentSounD> can someone please help me get my "eraser header" disabled? It's driving me crazy, i can't type with it enabled.
[02:13] <i_r_leenucks_man> !anyone | [rocc]
[02:13] <ubotu> [rocc]: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:13] <[Rocc]> i need help burning ubuntu on  my computer
[02:13] <Pelo> SilentSounD, eraser header ?
[02:13] <[Rocc]> i already got that grrr
[02:13] <Dr_willis> SilentSounD,  you mean the joy-nipple on the laptop? :)
[02:13] <i_r_leenucks_man> Ok, from an ISO onto a CD?
[02:14] <[Rocc]> uh huh
[02:14] <SilentSounD> yes
[02:14] <c0ldfusion> [Rocc]: got a lighter handy?
[02:14] <mophead> does http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=837922&postcount=7 make any sense to anyone?
[02:14] <unocrash> did you follow the website i gave you [Rocc]?
[02:14] <i_r_leenucks_man> Ok, does your comp burn CDs?
[02:14] <StPatrick> Also, Everyone, http://pastebin.ca/973325 Is Me trying to follow those instructions.
[02:14] <[Rocc]> c0ld: no
[02:14] <Pelo> [Rocc], you need to ask specific quesitons
[02:14] <SilentSounD> Dr_willis, yes
[02:14] <Frustation> Dr_willis: ... :( You want to say me that NFS will not go on my computer ?
[02:14] <SkinnYPupp> StPatrick: type "man chmod" into terminal without the quotes.
[02:14] <bobbo85> Thanks Pelo :-)
[02:14] <StPatrick> SkinnYPupp,  Ok
[02:14] <[Rocc]> i do believe that is specific....
[02:14] <i_r_leenucks_man> Rocc, do you have the .iso downloaded?
[02:14] <unocrash> did you follow the website i gave you [Rocc]?
[02:14] <SkinnYPupp> StPatrick: q for quit in manpages
[02:14] <Dr_willis> Frustation,  it depends on a lot of things..  this is the Origianl 'need for speed' or some newer variant?
[02:14] <amenado> StPatrick-> which ubuntu version do you have?
[02:14] <[Rocc]> no, what is it?
[02:15] <StPatrick> amenado, 7.10
[02:15] <unocrash> isorecorder.com
[02:15] <Dr_willis> Frustation,  ATI cards are often a prlblem with MANY games under wine/cedega
[02:15] <StPatrick> SkinnYPupp,  What's that uhh gonna do for me?
[02:15] <Frustation> Dr_willis: I have wine 0.9.46 ! how i can install wine 0.9.54 ?
[02:15] <amenado> StPatrick-> what is wrong with the stock ipw3945 that came with 7.10 ?
[02:15] <Krzzzz> hello folks
[02:15] <StPatrick> amenado,  I have no idea.. maybe nothing. how do i use it
[02:15] <i_r_leenucks_man> ok, rocc, go to www.ubuntu.com
[02:15] <wobbiebobbie> hi krzzz
[02:15] <i_r_leenucks_man> go to get ubuntu, download the .iso
[02:16] <StPatrick> amenado,  See, this is why im in here asking for help. I am LINUX noob.
[02:16] <SkinnYPupp> StPatrick: let you understand what the chmod does in that line
[02:16] <Krzzzz> has anyone had any experience with Gnome-voice-control
[02:16] <Krzzzz> ?
[02:16] <[Rocc]> its already burnt and all
[02:16] <amenado> StPatrick-> look in your  /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ubuntu/wireless if it is there
[02:16] <tocmo0nlord> i want to unzip a game into the games dir, tried unzip -d /folder/game.zip /urs/games/game but it says its unable to find it
[02:16] <i_r_leenucks_man> Ok, now when you boot go into BIOS and change boot order so CD is first
[02:16] <[Rocc]> how so?
[02:16] <Krzzzz> i get this error when i try to add the applet to a panel
[02:16] <StPatrick> amenado,  I dont understand how to Look in that.
[02:16] <Frustation> Dr_willis: i have some newer variant NFS MW and i must put wine 0.9.54 on My computer
[02:16] <i_r_leenucks_man> BIOS is like, f2, f8, f12, some key shortcut when you boot up
[02:16] <i_r_leenucks_man> it should say
[02:16] <i_r_leenucks_man> what comp do you have?
[02:16] <Krzzzz> The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_VoiceControlApplet".
[02:16] <amenado> StPatrick-> ls -la  /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ubuntu/wireless if it is there
[02:17] <Pelo> tocmo0nlord, you need to use sudo if you unzip to anywhere outside your /home folder
[02:17] <Dr_willis> Frustation,  thers a  wine repository you can add to your repository list for the latest version of wine
[02:17] <wobbiebobbie> delete
[02:17] <unocrash> Krzzzz: use pastebin
[02:17] <[Rocc]> HP Pavilion 700
[02:17] <DistroJockey> i_r_leenucks_man, [Rocc]:  we went through this
[02:17] <Frustation> Dr_willis: what i must do ?
[02:17] <[Rocc]> im in bios
[02:17] <Krzzzz> sup uno
[02:17] <tocmo0nlord>  sudo unzip -d /media/BARTPE/alienarena2008-linux20080227.zip /usr/share/games/
[02:17] <tocmo0nlord> unzip:  cannot find or open /usr/share/games/, /usr/share/games/.zip or /usr/share/games/.ZIP.
[02:17] <Frogger626> Does anyone know how to change the resolution on Ubuntu above 600x800?
[02:17] <[Rocc]> distro: i still need help....
[02:17] <Krzzzz> UNOcrash
[02:17] <StPatrick> amenado,  What am i looking for in this list?
[02:17] <Dr_willis> Frustation,  read at the !wine factid for a  start I gues. I dontuse wine much.
[02:17] <Dr_willis> !wine
[02:17] <unocrash> Krzzzz: Use Pastebin for your error
[02:17] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[02:17] <Krzzzz> can you explain it to me in mor detail
[02:17] <StPatrick> amenado,  ipw3945 is listed.
[02:18] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: you said you asked a query, and I said I didn't see it
[02:18] <Frustation> Dr_willis: i have wine 0.9.58 in .bz2 !
[02:18] <i_r_leenucks_man> rocc, go into private chat with me
[02:18] <unocrash> !pastebin | Krzzzz
[02:18] <ubotu> Krzzzz: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[02:18] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: what stage are you at?
[02:18] <i_r_leenucks_man> I sent some messages to ya
[02:18] <Dr_willis> Frustation,  you dont want to use the source for wine
[02:18] <StPatrick> amenado, so is a rtl818x
[02:18] <amenado> StPatrick-> so if you activate your wifi it does not work with that module?
[02:18] <Frustation> Dr_willis: yes i want use the source why not ?
[02:18] <StPatrick> how does one "activate their wifi" in linux?
[02:18] <i_r_leenucks_man> open netmanager
[02:18] <mophead> can you open wifi-radar?
[02:18] <StPatrick> amenado,  How do i use that module?
[02:18] <unocrash> Can you access Internet from bluetooth?
[02:19] <i_r_leenucks_man> Don't use wifi-radar, that's crap.
[02:19] <Dr_willis> Frustation,  NO you dont.. they have .deb packages for the latest..  if you setup the proper repo following tha web site you can just do a apt-get install wine and it will get the latest.
[02:19] <StPatrick> Wifi Radar opens.
[02:19] <SilentSounD> anyone ?
[02:19] <SilentSounD> other than cutting the wire
[02:19] <tocmo0nlord> oh LOL
[02:19] <mophead> Is there a list of wifi connections?
[02:19] <tocmo0nlord> i was doing it backwards
[02:19] <StPatrick> no
[02:19] <i_r_leenucks_man> In NetMan there is
[02:19] <vocx> tocmo0nlord, according to the manual page the order of the commands is incorrect.
[02:19] <StPatrick> mophead,  But that doesnt mean anyhting. Thre may nto be any within range wher ei am.
[02:19] <Iz> how can i unistall gnome and install another enviroment?
[02:19] <Frustation> Dr_willis: where i can find the packages to the french wine 0.9.58 ?
 i was doing it backwards lol, the .zip goes at end, dir where its going goes first
[02:20] <i_r_leenucks_man> lz theres some sudo apt-get thingy, let me check up
[02:20] <Dr_willis> Frustation,  read that !wine url yet? it gives links to the winehq repositories.
[02:20] <amenado> StPatrick-> cd to that dir ipw3945 and then  sudo  modprobe ipw3945
[02:20] <mophead> stpatrick: so what are we trying to do then? I thought we were trying to run wifi
[02:20] <Dr_willis> Frustation,  http://winehq.org/site/download-deb
[02:20] <[Rocc]> Distro, Im in the dios, where we left off changing remoable device or something....
[02:20] <StPatrick> mophead,  Im trying to get my computer to realize I HAVE a wifi card.
[02:20] <StPatrick> my wif DOESNT work.
[02:20] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: might be easier to just put the IDE hard drive last in the list
[02:20] <vocx> tocmo0nlord, check the manpage, it is not as important which goes first or after, the important part is the switch "-d" it must appear before the directory.
[02:21] <StPatrick> amenado,  CD to which directory?
[02:21] <Frustation> Dr_willis: thank ^^
[02:21] <[Rocc]> distro: What do you mean by that?
[02:21] <tocmo0nlord> i switched it around and worked great
[02:21] <i_r_leenucks_man> lz: try sudo apt-get install kde-desktop-environment
[02:21] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: so that all other devices try to boot before the hard drive
[02:22] <unocrash> I forgot it!!!!! HOW do i get compiz!!
[02:22] <i_r_leenucks_man> Rocc, change boot order so CD boots first
[02:22] <i_r_leenucks_man> unocrash: sudo apt-get install compiz-fuzion
[02:22] <unocrash> thankx
[02:22] <marcia> Hello all.
[02:22] <i_r_leenucks_man> should work
[02:22] <i_r_leenucks_man> Herrow
[02:22] <StPatrick> amenado,  Dude?
[02:22] <Frogger626> What is compiz?
[02:22] <unocrash> i cant belive i forgot how to get it
[02:22] <vocx> tocmo0nlord, exactly, but you could have done this "unzip file.zip -d /usr/share/games/" also
[02:22] <i_r_leenucks_man> Graphical manage
[02:22] <StPatrick> Frogger626,  Just go get it.
[02:22] <unocrash> !compiz | Frogger626
[02:22] <ubotu> Frogger626: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[02:23] <i_r_leenucks_man> Beryl + Compiz = Compiz Fuzion
[02:23] <i_r_leenucks_man> Rocc won
[02:23] <StPatrick> amenado, man im so lost.
[02:23] <dassouki> is there a way to install the world clock app in gutsy?
[02:23] <Frustation> Dr_willis: when i run with wine 0.9.58 i have nothing...
[02:23] <[Rocc]> Grr im lost...
[02:24] <i_r_leenucks_man> Rocc
[02:24] <Frustation> Dr_willis: you had get the problem ?
[02:24] <i_r_leenucks_man> ROCC
[02:24] <Dr_willis> Frustation,  no idea then. I dont have the game, i dont use wine. and the appdb says the game is flakey under wine.
[02:24] <[Rocc]> yes?!
[02:24] <Stroganoff> is there something like xpaint but not as ugly? (not kpaint)
[02:24] <Frustation> flakey ?
[02:24] <Dr_willis> Frustation,  post a commant on the wine appdb perhaps, check their forums,
[02:25] <Frustation> Dr_willis: okay...
[02:25] <Dr_willis> Frustation,  they say the game is very unplayable whenit does work.
[02:25] <i_r_leenucks_man> TALK TO ME IN PRIVATE CHAT
[02:25] <i_r_leenucks_man> Talk over PM rocc
[02:25] <[Rocc]> I am
[02:25] <Frustation> Dr_willis: so... what the NFS can run with wine ? NFSU2 NFSCarbon ?
[02:25] <amenado> StPatrick-> hang on am watching starwars..hehe
[02:26] <i_r_leenucks_man> i don't see any replies
[02:26] <Dr_willis> Frustation,  look at that wine appdatabase. they list all those games.
[02:26] <Frustation> Dr_willis: okay ^^thx
[02:26] <vocx> !register | i_r_leenucks_man [Rocc]
[02:26] <ubotu> i_r_leenucks_man [Rocc]: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[02:26] <Dr_willis> Frustation,   some do get good ratings
[02:26] <[Rocc]> Leenucks: do you have yim/msn?
[02:26] <StPatrick> amenado,  I'd be watching tv right now... If i was on WIRELESS!!!!!
[02:26] <soulreaper> hi i have linux ubuntu and i have cedega. how do i use it to install steam from steampowerd.com
[02:27] <mikedoty> So... I have these fancy effects with ubuntu now, like thumbnail previews when I alt-tab
[02:27] <ricanelite> okay i have envy running on ubuntu 7.10 and everything works fine i get my Philips LCD HDTV Screen displayed as the second monitor fine. The one major problem is when the Philips is displayed i cant see the menu panel and if I open a application like Firefox the panel for that application is also not showing up. It is there but I just cant see it. I have it set up to 1280x720. What can I do?
[02:27] <amenado> StPatrick-> cd  /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ubuntu/wireless/ipw3945
[02:27] <mikedoty> But now I can't alt-shift-tab.  Minor inconvenience.  How can I restore this functionality?
[02:27] <[Rocc]> wtf
[02:27] <[Rocc1> Hello
[02:27] <[Rocc1> I LIKE MEN!
[02:27] <c0ldfusion> here we go
[02:27] <soulreaper> you to !!!!
[02:27] <[Rocc]> dude why r u starting beef and you dont know me?
[02:28] <mikedoty> Stop spamming away my question
[02:28] <unocrash> [Rocc1: ummmmm...... ok
[02:28] <StPatrick> amenado,  It gave me errors
[02:28] <[Rocc1> Why did my color change?
[02:28] <methods> is there no autoexpect package for ubuntu ?
[02:28] <[Rocc]> ty ljl
[02:28] <soulreaper> can anyone help me with cedega on ubuntu
[02:29] <unocrash> ljl?
[02:29] <unocrash> oh
[02:30] <unocrash> "ty"
[02:30] <StPatrick> amenado,  Is Annikan dead yet?
[02:30] <mgray5159> hello
[02:30] <soulreaper> anyone please
[02:30] <mgray5159> I am new to this channel
[02:30] <mgray5159> how are you all doing
[02:30] <unocrash> fine
[02:30] <mophead> stpatrick: what error did you get?
[02:30] <amenado> StPatrick-> changing directory gave you errors?
[02:30] <mgray5159> I am also new to ubuntu
[02:30] <zcat[1]> !skype
[02:30] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[02:30] <unocrash> oh
[02:30] <StPatrick> amen no the command you told me to run in the directory, lol
[02:30] <unocrash> !msn
[02:30] <ubotu> The Instant Messenger Client Pidgin (formerly Gaim) (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !Kopete
[02:30] <StPatrick> Making a pastebin now
[02:31] <mgray5159> does anyton know how to fix the skype problem with skype: error while loading shared libraries: libXv.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:31] <[Rocc]> ok, leenucks still here?
[02:31] <amenado> StPatrick-> cd  /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ubuntu/wireless/ipw3945  <-- this gave you errors?
[02:31] <StPatrick> mophead, amenado  http://pastebin.ca/973343
[02:31] <StPatrick> amenado, no the command you told me to run inside there did.
[02:32] <mophead> hm.
[02:32] <gliss> I'm surprised ubuntu can use my multimedia keys on my keyboard
[02:32] <gliss> Everything on this computer works flawless with ubuntu
[02:32] <StPatrick> gliss,  Im Sooo happy for you.
[02:32] <gliss> Except for the sleep button I think
[02:32] <jim> Hi... I'd like to ask if someone recommended to StPatrick to come to #debian to ask about a ubuntu wireless issue?
[02:32] <[Rocc]> umm
[02:32] <amenado> StPatrick-> its going to a wrong directory when loading?  you finished compiling what you were doing earlier? Im referring to the old stock module
[02:32] <soulreaper> ok there is 1193 people and no one can help me what is wrong with that
[02:33] <StPatrick> amenado,  I dont understand.
[02:33] <refrax> what is a free alternative to vmware for linux?
[02:33] <wasup> "force quit" window is stuck
[02:33] <jim> xen
[02:33] <wasup> how the fuck do I get it off
[02:33] <gliss> what's the difference between suspend an hibernate?
[02:33] <MattJ> refrax: Try virtualbox
[02:33] <amenado> StPatrick-> /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/net/ieee80211/ieee80211_crypt.ko  <--this...
[02:33] <gliss> StPatrick: yeah, it rocks
[02:33] <LjL> !language | wasup
[02:33] <ubotu> wasup: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[02:33] <c0ldfusion> !friendly | wasup
[02:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about friendly - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:33] <LjL> wasup: type "xkill" in alt+f2 and click on the window
[02:33] <wasup> how in tarnation do I get it off!
[02:33] <amenado> StPatrick-> that dont look same as the directory i asked you to cd to
[02:33] <refrax> MattJ: ok installing now :)
[02:33] <StPatrick> jim,  He left dude. He had to go. Told me when he left to ask in here, or in #Debian, that someone might be able to help.
[02:34] <wasup> !using ubotu | c0ldfusion
[02:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about using ubotu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:34] <StPatrick> amenado,  =/
[02:34] <unocrash> !language | wasup
[02:34] <ubotu> wasup: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[02:34] <[Rocc]> Question, what one should i change the cd thing too.... um like 1. remoable device...
[02:34] <StPatrick> amenado,  Im tryin man i really am.
[02:34] <icesword> !me
[02:34] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:34] <wasup> unocrash, what did i say this time
[02:34] <LjL> !fishing
[02:34] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[02:34] <unocrash> f      u     c       k
[02:34] <c0ldfusion> !haters
[02:34] <icesword> ....
[02:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about haters - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:34] <LjL> ENOUGH
[02:34] <wasup> "xkill" won't do it
[02:34] <unocrash> haha !haters
[02:35] <wasup> LjL, xkill won't do it
[02:35] <StPatrick> !Fix my wifi
[02:35] <amenado> StPatrick-> hang on..let me look around
[02:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix my wifi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:35] <StPatrick> amenado,  Thanks :(
[02:35] <wasup> the "force quit" window is stuck like a picture
[02:35] <Dr_willis> !love | unocrash
[02:35] <ubotu> unocrash: Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.
[02:35] <Dogma_> So, is anyone here running Ubuntu on a mac Via Paralells?
[02:35] <wasup> how the hell do I get the "force quit" window off without restarting
[02:36] <unocrash> !botabuse | StPatrick, Dr_willis, c0ldfusion
[02:36] <ubotu> StPatrick, Dr_willis, c0ldfusion: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[02:36] <LjL> wasup: i have no idea why xkill wouldn't do it...
[02:36] <StPatrick> ubotu I forgive you. No one seems to know much about fixing my wifi.
[02:36] <style23> kitche it was named grandparadiso webbrowser. I kept clicking the firefox icon.... it works now thank you
[02:36] <unocrash> !me
[02:36] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:36] <christophoros> hello guys i installed utubu last night and now i am trying to connect an external harddrive but it wont let me see the contents of the drive any ideas?
[02:36] <Survivorman> !wireless | StPatrick
[02:36] <ubotu> StPatrick: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:37] <banditofdoom> hi guys
[02:37] <wasup> LjL, ubuntu has been pissing me off lately.  Rhythmbox constantly just randomly shuts off... firefox freezes on very simple tasks... and when ubuntu crashes, it crashes so bad i have to restart my computer to be able to do anything
[02:37] <banditofdoom> hi all
[02:37] <amenado> StPatrick-> what do you have in /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/net/ieee80211 ?
[02:37] <banditofdoom> whens zday comin out
[02:37] <LjL> wasup: i'm sorry.
[02:37] <c0ldfusion> wasup: mine doesn't do that
[02:37] <unocrash> LjL: Hey!
[02:37] <unocrash> I wasn't playing
[02:37] <unocrash> I had the ubotu window up
[02:37] <jim> StPatrick: have you determined your chipset and driver name?
[02:38] <LjL> unocrash, you weren't helping either... the warning had been given, then use PM if you need to give further factoids
[02:38] <StPatrick> jim,  chipset seems to be Realtek RTL8187b
[02:38] <StPatrick> jim, driver is anyone's guess
[02:38] <jim> ok, what linux driver for that?
[02:38] <jim> preferably your determination
[02:39] <unocrash> whats -o mean?
[02:39] <StPatrick> amenado,  It says macsoft
[02:39] <ricanelite> im trying to save my x configuration file and im getting this error message Unable to create new X config backup file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'.
[02:39] <tocmo0nlord> i get this error while trying to install adobe http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62276/ help ?
[02:39] <jim> unocrash: sideways lollipop
[02:39] <StPatrick> amenado, sorry softmac
[02:39] <StPatrick> jim,  Are you talking to me?
[02:40] <amenado> StPatrick-> thats the only content of that directory?
[02:40] <StPatrick> amenado,  Yes
[02:40] <unocrash> why a sideways lollipop?
[02:40] <jim> unocrash: I dunno, that's what it looks like to me...
[02:40] <amenado> StPatrick-> what happend to the original that were there?
[02:40] <StPatrick> amenado,  What original....
[02:40] <StPatrick> amenado,  I have no idea.  I dont know what was there.
[02:41] <refrax> MattJ: thank's for the suggestion, works good :D
[02:41] <StPatrick> amenado,  I didnt even know that folder was there
[02:41] <amenado> StPatrick-> files that start wtih ieee80211
[02:41] <Survivorman> StPatrick, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571046&page=6
[02:41] <MattJ> refrax: Great :D
[02:41] <refrax> MattJ: vmware was giving me problems
[02:41] <vocx> tocmo0nlord, don't install rpm in ubuntu
[02:41] <vocx> !deb | tocmo0nlord
[02:41] <ubotu> tocmo0nlord: deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click (in Ubuntu) or click (in Kubuntu) on them to start the GDebi utility.
[02:41] <pyrak> i can't umount an sd card, how do i tell what process is making it "busy"?
[02:41] <Survivorman> StPatrick, there is a partial fix it seems
[02:41] <MattJ> refrax: I prefer VirtualBox in many ways, yes
[02:41] <Dr_willis> pyrak,  lsof /dev/SDCARDDEVICE
[02:41] <tocmo0nlord> so i cant install rpm files in ubuntu ?
[02:41] <icesword> pyrak, cd out that dir
[02:41] <christophoros> am trying to mount the usb drive but it wont let me it says "hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000" anyone can help me out?
[02:41] <Dr_willis> pyrak,  i think.
[02:42] <Dr_willis> pyrak,  be sure you are cd'd out of any shells accessing the device.
[02:42] <Survivorman> StPatrick, here is a fix for your wifi it looks: http://quilombo.wordpress.com/2008/03/07/realtek-rtl8187b-working-in-ubuntu-710-using-ndiswrapper/
[02:42] <amenado> StPatrick-> your wifi is a usb dongle?
[02:42] <StPatrick> Survivorman,  Finding posts about my problem is not my problem I can search google, and browse forums all day long.  Thank you though. I appreciate your looking, and assistance. However, what I need is someone to help me DO one of those fixes. I can't put the processes listed into effect.
[02:42] <jim> tocmo0nlord: you could look into alien -- might work even -- other than that, it's not recommended
[02:42] <DigitalKiwi> if ubuntu is debian then why is there ubuntu?
[02:42] <StPatrick> amenado,  It;s internal. Built in, but usb.
[02:42] <pyrak> Dr_willis, thanks, that did it
[02:43] <StPatrick> Survivorman,   Please do nto take this as me being ungrateful. I am very appreciative of your searching.
[02:43] <amenado> StPatrick-> built in but usb? usb are normally removable..
[02:43] <MattJ> DigitalKiwi: Ubuntu is based on Debian, it is not Debian
[02:43] <hexoroid> anybody good with rdns ?
[02:43] <DistroJockey> !debian | DigitalKiwi
[02:43] <ubotu> DigitalKiwi: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[02:43] <StPatrick> amenado,  Im aware of that.  Don't ask me to explain it. It's an internal USB.
[02:43] <jim> DigitalKiwi: it's not debian. the only thing in common really is the packaging format... and even that is questionable, because ubuntu takes all its software from debian unstable and works on it
[02:43] <vocx> tocmo0nlord, jim, he could try alien but it is not needed to install adobe reader.
[02:43] <Dr_willis> DigitalKiwi,  its no longer 'debian'  - its  branched away from debian.    it also has different design goals then debian does.
[02:43] <hexoroid> anybody good with rdns ?
[02:44] <refrax> pyrak: next time if that happens, and that isn't the cause, then do 'fuser /dev/cdrom' and it will tell you processes using it
[02:44] <unocrash> LjL: what's -o mean?
[02:44] <jim> unocrash: what's it mean... to me? to you? to some unix command? which command?
[02:44] <Survivorman> np StPatrick
[02:44] <hexoroid> anybody good with rdns ?
[02:44] <StPatrick> Survivorman,  Think you can walk me through one of them?
[02:44] <amenado> StPatrick-> I guess since you dont have those ieee80211  files go ahead and compile those what you were doing earlier...see if your compiled modules would work..
[02:45] <Lichig0> I have one simple question: When Ubuntu goes to 8.04(or whatever the new version is) will my current one (7.10) notify me that the upgrade is available
[02:45] <StPatrick> amenado,  Dude I dont remember what your taslking about. Infact.. I dont know what Compiling is...
[02:45] <LjL> !modes > unocrash    (unocrash, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:45] <joot> Lichigo, Yes
[02:45] <[Rocc]> i still need help :(
[02:45] <Lichig0> ty
[02:45] <Dr_willis> StPatrick,  thats why youinstalled the 'build-essential' package earlier. for the C compiler stuff.
[02:46] <unocrash> [Rocc]: Can you not boot to the cd
[02:46] <StPatrick> Dr_willis,  i remember installing that.. i dont know what its for. I installed it cause you said i would need it.
[02:46] <maynards-girl> how do i edit tags for songs using Exaile?
[02:46] <xfa> how can i configure speaks and headphones output seperatly?
[02:46] <mophead> !modes > me
[02:46] <amenado> StPatrick-> you were referring to a step chmod a+x remove-old && sudo ./remove-old   this may have removed it..
[02:46] <jim> StPatrick: lots to do, lots to learn... have you removed something that you're going to have to replace in order to get something working?
[02:47] <Dr_willis> StPatrick,  as i said then if you are going to COmpile source code. You will need it..  that site you gave had the source code.
[02:47] <danc3> maynards-girl: did you read the documentation for "Exaile"?
[02:47] <unocrash> !hi > me
[02:47] <StPatrick> jim,  It seems that way
[02:47] <osxdude|laptop> oh
[02:47] <osxdude|laptop> m
[02:47] <osxdude|laptop> g
[02:47] <DistroJockey> xfa: running   alsamixer   from a terminal didn't help?
[02:47] <StPatrick> Dr_willis,  I... think I understand.
[02:47] <unocrash> [Rocc]
[02:47] <[Nevan]> can anyone help me with this script: http://pastebin.ca/973342 plz?
[02:47] <StPatrick> amenado,  Indeed. That seems likely.
[02:47] <xfa> if i set headphones to max an front down both volumes are 0
[02:47] <osxdude|laptop> sorry, ubuntu alternate is installing on my old desktop and it's stuck at Configuring apt (40%): Scanning the mirror...
[02:47] <xfa> maybe a driver problem?
[02:48] <amenado> StPatrick-> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=837922&postcount=7  <--this was the link you have pasted earlier when i came in..
[02:48] <StPatrick> amenado,  RIght, Im trying to do that.
[02:48] <icesword> osxdude|laptop, nana,is it connected to internet
[02:48] <Dr_willis> [Nevan],  first line is wrong   #! /bin/sh    NO space in there.. for a starter
[02:48] <maynards-girl> danc3, i didn't see it on their wiki or site
[02:48] <xfa>  Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8) is my audio chip
[02:48] <Dr_willis> [Nevan],  and you proberly want #!/bin/bash
[02:48] <osxdude|laptop> icesword I assume it is.
[02:48] <StPatrick> amenado,   I dont know how to explain why this is so difficult for me.
[02:48] <amenado> StPatrick-> when you executed this   chmod a+x remove-old && sudo ./remove-old   this may have removed it..
[02:48] <DistroJockey> xfa: alot of devices cancel the speakers out when phones are plugged in *shrugs*
[02:48] <christophoros> guys?
[02:48] <christophoros> am trying to mount the usb drive but it wont let me it says "hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000" anyone can help me out?
[02:48] <StPatrick> amenado,  That seems likely....
[02:48] <unocrash> http://pastebin.ca/973363
[02:49] <danc3> maynards-girl: have you done any basic Googling for instructions?  Have you even tried to actually *USE* the program to do what you want?
[02:49] <osxdude|laptop> Ethernet is plugged in, and I configured the wireless manually, icesword
[02:49] <StPatrick> amenado,  SO now what?
[02:49] <unocrash> !pastebin
[02:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[02:49] <amenado> StPatrick-> continue with the steps
[02:49] <icesword> osxdude|laptop, then wait
[02:49] <StPatrick> I did
[02:49] <nickrud> osxdude|laptop what do you see on alt-f4? (or one of those, has the log)
[02:49] <StPatrick> amenado,  I did, Then I pastebin linked you the errors it returned.
[02:49] <[Nevan]> Dr_willis: the problem is here: /usr/bin/screen -DmS realm $dir/$exe &> $home/test.log
[02:49] <[Nevan]> the log dont be saved :/
[02:49] <osxdude|laptop> haha, funny, nickrud
[02:49] <xfa> yeah but my speakers still run after plugin in the headphones
[02:49] <unocrash> !Brainfuck > me
[02:49] <jim> StPatrick: there's a coupla possibilities... you'll have to either get help from someone or learn the whole process (albeit a step at a time) yourself
[02:49] <nickrud> osxdude|laptop ?
[02:49] <osxdude|laptop> ooh!!!
[02:49] <osxdude|laptop> I see it
[02:50] <StPatrick> jim,  I know man, Im trying to do both...  For now, though, I need wireless, so im tryin to find help.
[02:50] <amenado> StPatrick-> you downloaded that  "Next download ieee80211-1.1.12 which is the newest todate."  ?
[02:50] <osxdude|laptop> nickrud it says it's failing to downloa
[02:50] <osxdude|laptop> d
[02:50] <StPatrick> I downloaded the .18 one that is actually newest, yes
[02:50] <Dr_willis> [Nevan],  try it with bash instead of sh for a start. put an 'echo' in front of that line, to see what its expanding to exatly for a test also.  Youmay have some typo.
[02:50] <jim> osxdude|laptop: so... you're running windows right now?
[02:50] <tocmo0nlord> i get this error when trying to load alienarena2008 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62278/
[02:50] <StPatrick> amenado,  They are sitting in a temp folder
[02:51] <nickrud> osxdude|laptop it's trying to get from a mirror probably
[02:51] <osxdude|laptop> ooh
[02:51] <osxdude|laptop> it just tried again.
[02:51] <amenado> StPatrick-> then just follow the steps per that instruction in the link
[02:51] <osxdude|laptop> nickrud that's excatly what it's foing
[02:51] <StPatrick> amenado,  Im tryin to tell you i already did.... but it's cool. Ill do it again
[02:51] <unocrash> osxdude|laptop: ar u from www.osx-e.com?
[02:51] <osxdude|laptop> ...yes
[02:51] <vocx> tocmo0nlord, you shoudn't be using the root terminal for games, just to do administrative stuff.
[02:52] <unocrash> thoguht so.....
[02:52] <DistroJockey> xfa: ohh. There are more channels to the right in alsamixer also. Maybe play with 'Center' or 'Surround'. Apart from that, not sure.
[02:52] <StPatrick> amen Ok, I downloaded the file.
[02:52] <LjL> !offtopic
[02:52] <amenado> StPatrick-> sudo ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r`/  /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build  <--I assume you are about to do this?
[02:52] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:52] <nickrud> osxdude|laptop this may sound silly, but if you hit escape a few times you can go back in the install, and pick a different time zone in a different country  (or maybe hand select a mirror)
[02:52] <osxdude|laptop> first forum I went to for macosx emulation help...
[02:52] <osxdude|laptop> ooh, cool nickrud
[02:52] <StPatrick> amenado,  Yes
[02:52] <mgray5159> does anyone know how to fix the skype problem with skype: error while loading shared libraries: libXv.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:52] <StPatrick> amenado,  Lets see what happens.
[02:52] <[Nevan]> the problem is the test.log is empty... tried with only: $dir/$exe >> $home/test.log
[02:52] <[Nevan]> and all work good but i need screen and with screen dont work
[02:53] <nonix4> Can I make grub/casper boot directly from a .iso on an usb drive or do I really need to extract that huge amount of data there?
[02:53] <Dr_willis> tocmo0nlord,  downloading that game now..:) going to take 20 min. :(
[02:53] <xfa> Distrojockey, i got headphone, pcm, frpnt front mic and microphone
[02:53] <StPatrick> ln: creating symbolic link `/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/build/linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic' to `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic/': File exists
[02:53] <StPatrick> ryan@RPCNotebook:~$
[02:53] <Dr_willis> tocmo0nlord,  downloading that game now.. down to 10 min! :)
[02:53] <tocmo0nlord> ah!
[02:53] <SilentSounD> can someone please help me get my "eraser header" disabled? It's an AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint TouchPad Handlers=mouse3 event5
[02:54] <DistroJockey> xfa: what was it you were trying to do again?
[02:54] <tocmo0nlord> yes, problem was that it wouldn run under root
[02:54] <tocmo0nlord> got it working on reg terminal
[02:54] <Dr_willis> tocmo0nlord,  most likelyt you need to run the game as a user. since root cant access the desktop/X
[02:54] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:54] <StPatrick> Dr_willis,  What game is that?
[02:54] <Dr_willis> StPatrick,  AlienArena2008 - it just came out a few weeks ago.
[02:54] <xfa> i want to listen to music with the headphones, but i don't want to use the speaks at the same time
[02:54] <DistroJockey> !install | nonix4  (see the last link)
[02:54] <ubotu> nonix4  (see the last link): Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[02:54] <soulreaper> well can anyone help me now
[02:54] <StPatrick> Dr_willis,  What is it?
[02:54] <amenado> StPatrick-> then next step?  make && sudo make install     -- im just following the steps on that link.
[02:54] <StPatrick> amenado,  Ok.
[02:55] <vocx> StPatrick, amenado why are you doing those symlinks? You can mess the system like that.
[02:55] <unocrash> osxdude|laptop: u there?
[02:55] <Dr_willis> StPatrick,  ALiens in an arena :) http://red.planetarena.org/
[02:55] <xfa> DistroJockey, using a laptop it's useless when i am travelling and both devices run
[02:55] <StPatrick> vocx,  Desperatly trying to fix my wifi
[02:55] <christophoros> guys anyone can help me out?
[02:55] <amenado> vocx-> per the link he posted earlier..just following it..not sure if its a workable solution for him
[02:55] <christophoros> christophoros@christophoros-laptop:~$ mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1/media/disk -o force
[02:55] <christophoros> mount: only root can do that
[02:55] <StPatrick> vocx,  Can you help me?
[02:55]  * StPatrick Begs.
[02:55] <tocmo0nlord> meh game looks crappy on laptop
[02:55] <tocmo0nlord> laggy
[02:55] <christophoros> why i cant do it?
[02:55] <Starnestommy> christophoros: put sudo before that command
[02:55] <refrax> christophoros: add sudo in front of the laptop
[02:55] <refrax> christophoros: LOL
[02:55] <unocrash> !pastebin > christophoros
[02:55] <refrax> christophoros: i mean command not laptop
[02:55] <DistroJockey> xfa: agreed, what if you mute or drop the volume on "Front" ?
[02:56] <osxdude|laptop> yes
[02:56] <unocrash> ok
[02:56] <osxdude|laptop> !offtopic | unocrash
[02:56] <ubotu> unocrash: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:56] <nickrud> crisnoh also, add a space between sdb1 and /media
[02:56] <vocx> amenado, it better to provide no help at all, that not knowing what those commands do. Be careful when helping others.
[02:56] <amenado> vocx-> i can not attest to the workability of the link he pasted earlier, im just walking trhough the steps with him
[02:56] <xfa> DistroJockey, then headphones are mute too
[02:56] <unocrash> Im not dumb
[02:56] <christophoros> christophoros@christophoros-laptop:~$ sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1/media/disk -o force
[02:56] <christophoros> Usage: mount -V                 : print version
[02:56] <unocrash> Im on ubuntu to help. im just randomly chatting from time to time.
[02:56] <StPatrick> vocx,  He's just tryin to help man. He's just trying to help me understand a website explaination
[02:56] <nickrud> crisnoh sorry bout that
[02:56] <christophoros> etc etc it shows me the help think
[02:57] <osxdude|laptop> nickrud guess what. I pressed alt+ctrl+f2 and went into the consle, and typed in ifconfig and, what do ya know, it isn't connected.
[02:57] <DistroJockey> xfa: pressing  m  on a channel will toggle mute
[02:57] <StPatrick> vocx,  Do you know how to fix my wifi?
[02:57] <nickrud> osxdude|laptop ah!
[02:57] <Frogger626> Uh, hey
[02:57] <refrax> christophoros: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/disk -o force
[02:57] <refrax> christophoros: copy and paste that
[02:57] <amenado> vocx  he had removed the ieee80211 files so -- logical to may as well finish the compile steps he was working on
[02:57] <osxdude|laptop> nickrud, i'm going to not set up the network
[02:57] <christophoros> ty
[02:57] <StPatrick> 8 min on alienarena
[02:57] <christophoros> ><
[02:57] <vocx> StPatrick, you can follow the advise you want, but if the one helping you isn't even sure, you can mess things up badly.
[02:57] <nickrud> osxdude|laptop done that myself a couple times, easy to set up networking
[02:58] <refrax> christophoros: tell me if it worked
[02:58] <StPatrick> vocx,  Well, what do you reccomend then man? I need wifi working, and I'm completely new to linux. :(
[02:58] <osxdude|laptop> nickrud, that is correct, remember I'm in the alternate disk :D
[02:58] <xfa> yeah but muting front mutes the rest
[02:58] <amenado> vocx-> it would not be so bad, when missing those  ieee80211 to load ipw3945
[02:58] <nickrud> osxdude|laptop I would have kept my mouth shut otherwise, it's the only install I use (and know even a little about)
[02:58] <xfa> DistroJockey, istn there a tool letting me configure that seperatly
[02:59] <vocx> amenado, I get it. However, I think that when you install kernel headers the symlinks are automatically set, you don't need to do it yourself. He is using a strange non-ubuntu guide?
[02:59] <christophoros> refrax yeh it worked
[02:59] <unocrash> !mythbuntu > me
[02:59] <christophoros> thx alot
[02:59] <joot> StPatrick< Go to the ubuntu forums wifi can be a real bitch :-)
[02:59] <StPatrick> vocx,  It was on Ubuntu forums.
[02:59] <xfa> DistroJockey, i can chose between als mixer (HDA intel) and realtek ALC888
[02:59] <osxdude|laptop> uh
[02:59] <StPatrick> joot,  Yea, thanks, I know.
[02:59] <refrax> christophoros: you're welcome :)
[02:59] <mophead> xfa: What worked for me was muting front completely, then turning the headphones way up
[02:59] <osxdude|laptop> there is no floppy disk, and there was an I/O error on dev/fd0
[02:59] <unocrash> whats gobuntu?
[03:00] <refrax> unocrash: a template for other "ubuntus" i believe
[03:00] <StPatrick> joot,  As I tried to explain earlier, finiding information isnt my problem. It's taking that information, and fixing anything with it that's stoppingn me. I need a translator.
[03:00] <amenado> vocx i dont know, he found the solution, we were looking for the stock  ieee80211 but he has gone far enuff on the steps to have removed these..so we may as well go forward with building a newer  ieee80211
[03:00] <unocrash> !gobuntu
[03:00] <ubotu> gobuntu is a freedom-focused flavour of Ubuntu intended for experienced Linux enthusiasts. See http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/gobuntu for more information and download mirrors..
[03:00] <DistroJockey> xfa: has the laptop got a manual volume control?  alsamixer is the only thing I can think of atm. And yeah, as you said it may be a driver or changing devices may help.
[03:00] <refrax> unocrash: to create other's like kubuntu and xubuntu
[03:00] <unocrash> oh
[03:00] <vocx> StPatrick, Okay, just remember that you can't rush things up. It doesn't matter if you are desperate, and being new to linux doesn't help.
[03:00] <nickrud> osxdude|laptop I read somewhere that setting a kernel option of all_generic_ide fixes that, you might want to google a bit to confirm
[03:00] <StPatrick> vocx,  Been trying to make it fork 7 days 23 hours now.
[03:00] <StPatrick> vocx,  work*
[03:00] <[Rocc]> Distro: could you help me, i have no clue which one to change to the disk drive..
[03:01] <xfa> DistroJockey, muting front mutes all
[03:01] <mophead> xfa: I also have it switched to alsa mixer
[03:01] <osxdude|laptop> ah, ok. because my laptop's ubuntu install says there is a floppy drive on the system, lol (nickrud)
[03:01] <StPatrick> vocx,  I will ask again, will you help me?
[03:01] <amenado> StPatrick this is a new install relatively speaking right?
[03:01] <jim> why doesn't distro rhyme with bistro?
[03:01] <unocrash> whats medibuntu?
[03:01] <mophead> jim: bistro is french
[03:01] <Iz> how can i update amsn ? :o
[03:01] <nickrud> !medibuntu | unocrash
[03:01] <StPatrick> amenado,  I formatted less than 2 hours ago.
[03:01] <ubotu> unocrash: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[03:01] <refrax> !medibuntu
[03:01] <joot> StPatrick, I cant really help I got into a situation with my card getting on the blacklist some how and I never resolved the issue on that puter..
[03:01] <DistroJockey> xfa: sorry, I have no more ideas atm
[03:01] <newbie> is it possible to play PS2 games on ubuntu?
[03:01] <StPatrick> amenado,  And I have formatted this laptop about 30 time sin the last 6 days.
[03:01] <xfa> yeah but if i change headphones volume nothing happens..
[03:02] <unocrash> is it possible to download medibuntu?
[03:02] <StPatrick> amenado,  And Im happy to format again and start fresh.
[03:02] <[Rocc]> Newbie: try a emulator...
[03:02] <YeaSt> hey, guys
[03:02] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: are you in a device config screen or a boot order screen?
[03:02] <mophead> xfa: I know this sounds stupid but double check that the headphones are plugged into the right hole.
[03:02] <YeaSt> anyone using virtualbox?
[03:02] <vocx> StPatrick, my wireless worked after 3 months, so don't complain. Follow amenado, since he has already helped you.
[03:02] <nickrud> unocrash read the link given
[03:02] <newbie> [Rocc], which one would you suggest?
[03:02] <osxdude|laptop> ok
[03:02] <amenado> StPatrick-> okay cool..
[03:02] <YeaSt> I have some problem with the keyboard in virtual guest machine
[03:02] <[Rocc]> Distro: "AwardBIOS Setup Utility" is at the top...
[03:02] <mophead> !ask | Yeast
[03:02] <ubotu> Yeast: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[03:03] <StPatrick> vocx,  Im not complaining. I'm stating a fact. Im not rushing anything, i am a little rushed, cause people helping me keep having to leave 1/2 way through the process..
[03:03] <[Rocc]> Newbie: i wouldn't know, sorry
[03:03] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: and the name of the page you are on in there?
[03:03] <StPatrick> amenado,  So, are we continuing :P?
[03:03] <amenado> StPatrick-> so go on withthat  step    make && sudo make install
[03:03] <joot> newbie, I think there is a ps emulator in add remove programs
[03:03] <[Rocc]> Distro: im on the boot part
[03:03] <StPatrick> amenado,  Give me a minute. I gotta pull everythign back up. I closed everything down when vocx interrupted.
[03:03] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: sec, looking something up
[03:03] <LjL> joot, newbie: not in add/remove programs perhaps (because most come without a graphical front-end by default, and add/remove only shows graphical programs), but there are certainly some in the repositories (use synaptic)
[03:03] <YeaSt> I could not type in virtualbox guest machine
[03:03] <xfa> mophead, i can hear sound with the headphones but i can't sepratly change the volume
[03:04] <[Rocc]> Distro: kk ill be here
[03:04] <StPatrick> amenado,  DO you have the site up? would you link me please?
[03:04] <soulreaper> any one use cedega on ubuntu
[03:04] <LjL> joot: uh... you said "i think". i somehow read that as "i don't think".
[03:04] <refrax> YeaSt: I am using virtualbox right now, why what is your problem?
[03:04] <Silicium> how i can use variables in xarg statements?
[03:04] <xfa> Front Volume and Headphones Volume run parallel, it seems to me
[03:04] <Silicium> iE: find *.so |xarg cp $1 /usr/lib/
[03:04] <amenado> StPatrick-> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=837922&postcount=7
[03:04] <Silicium> $1 doesnt work
[03:04] <mgray5159> does anyone know how to fix the skype problem with skype: error while loading shared libraries: libXv.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:04] <mophead> xfa: what eventually helped me was plugging my headphones into the speakers, and controlling volume through the speakers, with my front on mute.
[03:04] <troxor> Silicium: use curly braces
[03:04] <StPatrick> amenado,  Ok, do i need to be in a particular folder to do that command?
[03:05] <Silicium> mhm?
[03:05] <Silicium> troxor: i dont know
[03:05] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: does what this site contain look similar:  http://www.computerhope.com/help/phoenixa.htm
[03:05] <xfa> yeah but i am using a laptop
[03:05] <troxor> Silicium: find / -name "*.so" | xargs cp {} /usr/lib/ \;`
[03:05] <troxor> Silicium: but you probably don't want to do that command ;)
[03:05] <[Rocc]> Distro: no
[03:05] <xfa> so i could open the laptop and work it out :D
[03:05] <Dr_willis> Silicium,  i always google for xargs examples. :)
[03:06] <joot> newbie, Sorry it is a PCX emulator my bad :-(
[03:06] <amenado> StPatrick-> whereever you were after downloading those ieee80211 file
[03:06] <newbie> joot, no problem :)
[03:06] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: see anything about first boot device?
[03:06] <StPatrick> amenado, the folder i unzipped them to?
[03:06] <amenado> StPatrick-> yes
[03:06] <troxor> Silicium: according to man xargs, it should be '{}' instead, sorry
[03:07] <[Rocc]> Distro: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf-JAVA/Doc/images/c00814740.jpg looks like mine
[03:07] <StPatrick> amenado,  I dont know how to get to it =/ I suck.
[03:07] <amenado> StPatrick-> thats where the Makefile is... the target make and make install
[03:07] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: sweet, looking
[03:07] <joot> LjL, No I meant " think" I just thought wrong that is all P
[03:07] <amenado> StPatrick-> change directory == cd
[03:07] <[Rocc]> Distro: ok
[03:07] <StPatrick> amenado,  right
[03:07] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: see that boot page at the top, you at that one?
[03:08] <[Rocc]> Distro: yeah
[03:08] <bruenig> troxor: xargs is useless there
[03:08] <Silicium> thanks
[03:08] <StPatrick> amenado,  It's making!
[03:08] <bruenig> find / -name '*.so' -exec cp '{}' /usrlib ';'
[03:08] <StPatrick> Error 2
[03:08] <bruenig> one command is success
[03:08] <StPatrick> amenado,  Error 2
[03:08] <StPatrick> Want a pastebin?
[03:08] <amenado> StPatrick-> yes please
[03:08] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: and what order are they in now?
[03:09] <[Rocc]> Here distro
[03:09] <[Rocc]> lemme take a pic
[03:09] <troxor> bruenig: yeah, -exec is better
[03:09] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: that would be great :)
[03:09] <StPatrick> amenado, http://pastebin.ca/973388
[03:09] <jim> StPatrick: you're going to have to find the real error. first: make clean
[03:09] <firan45> ADI
[03:09] <jim> what command did you use to build?
[03:09] <StPatrick> jim,  I cant take directions from 2 people at once. Are you taking over?
[03:09] <YeaSt> refrax:  I just could not type anything in virtual machine
[03:09] <jim> no
[03:10] <refrax> YeaSt: odd
[03:10] <jair__> Hello, ¿could someone help me? I have connectivity isssues with firefox after installingmy new wireless router. All other computers in the house work perfectly, one with windows and the other with Gutsy
[03:10] <MrStonedOne> sound was working, after having skype running and xmms running at the same time, sound stopped working in both, cords where checked, reboot didn't fix it
[03:10] <StPatrick> jim,  you can see what command i use at the link http://pastebin.ca/973388
[03:10] <MrStonedOne> any ideas?
[03:10] <refrax> YeaSt: what was the os on the vb?
[03:10] <DeVonne> If I goto Hardy what is the worst that can happen?
[03:10] <jim> StPatrick: which line?
[03:10] <newbie> is there any way I could load an ISO image into the cdrom without burning a CD, or is there some software to open the image file and execute its content?
[03:10] <StPatrick> jim,  Top.
[03:10] <refrax> YeaSt: was it after the installation of the OS on virtualbox?
[03:10] <MrStonedOne> i cant get sound to work in any app, after checking vol levels
[03:10] <[Rocc]> Distro: its being sent to my email now...
[03:10] <Dr_willis> DeVonne,  a update breaks the system for a few days. :)
[03:10] <YeaSt> refrax: it doesnot matter, it does not work even in installation process
[03:11] <jair__> I've tried disabling IPv6, cleaning the DNS caché and eliminating the word feisty from my user agent, to no avail
[03:11] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: k
[03:11] <DeVonne> Dr_willis:  what do you mean?
[03:11] <Dr_willis> newbie,  you can mount iso imatge files easially enough
[03:11] <mophead> DeVonne: do you really want to find out?
[03:11] <amenado> StPatrick-> follow the suggestion per your paste..starting around line 5
[03:11] <bazhang> DeVonne: hardy discussion in #ubuntu+1 thanks
[03:11] <Dr_willis> DeVonne,  a few weeks ago a kernel update. made things unbootable for a day. :) befor that no sound for a few days.. befor that . samba was broke
[03:11] <MrStonedOne> !sound
[03:11] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:11] <DeVonne> Ok thanks!
[03:11] <Dr_willis> !iso | newbie
[03:11] <ubotu> newbie: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[03:11] <[Rocc]> Distro: can we talk on Query?
[03:11] <StPatrick> so type that in?
[03:11] <level09> is there any open source solution like Cpanel ?
[03:11] <Starnestommy> level09: ebox?
[03:11] <Dr_willis> newbie,  or you may want to try the fuseiso tools.
[03:12] <level09> or WHM
[03:12] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: what is Query?
[03:12] <Starnestommy> DistroJockey: private message
[03:12]  * level09 is checking ebox
[03:12] <[Rocc]> Distro: private message on mirc
[03:12] <MrStonedOne> none of the !sound info seems to be fore when sound stops working
[03:12] <MrStonedOne> for*
[03:12] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: sure, but you will need to register your nick
[03:12] <amenado> StPatrick-> yes.. make SHELL=/bin/bash
[03:12] <jim> StPatrick: ok so you do have the build log... two issues: the build seems to require you to use bash
[03:12] <DistroJockey> Starnestommy: cheers :)
[03:13] <DistroJockey> !register | [Rocc]
[03:13] <ubotu> [Rocc]: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[03:13] <StPatrick> amenado, , jim, That gave me error 2 as well, making a pastebin
[03:13] <jim> perhaps if you do a make clean, get into bash and then run the make again it will work further
[03:13] <vocx> amenado, if you can you should talk to him in private message, because it is talking a lot of space in this channel. Just a suggestion.
[03:13] <StPatrick> amenado, jim http://pastebin.ca/973392
[03:13] <level09> sounds impressive, is it easy to install ebox on ubunto through ssh ?
[03:13] <[Rocc]> i know howto register on irc
[03:13] <[Rocc]> if thats what ur talking about
[03:13] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: yup
[03:13] <YeaSt> any idea guys?
[03:13] <DeVonne> anyone here know how to get a radeon 9000 working or can help me?
[03:14] <jim> StPatrick, run make clean then make
[03:14] <SilentSounD> How do i disable the DualPoint mouse?
[03:14] <StPatrick> jim,  So type "make clean"
[03:14] <jim> right
[03:14] <StPatrick> jim,  Then "make"
[03:14] <jim> then run the make with the bash thing
[03:15] <[Rocc]> ummm
[03:15] <StPatrick> jim, wait how do i run the make with the bash thing? What would I type in?
[03:15] <[Rocc]> Distro: you have yim or msn?
[03:15] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]:  nope
[03:15] <jim> you did it already
[03:15] <[Rocc]> any messenger?
[03:15] <jim> just do the same thing again
[03:15] <StPatrick> jim,  This :   make && sudo make install?
[03:15] <jim> actually hold up
[03:16] <StPatrick> jim,  K
[03:16] <jim> nono, don't try installing yet
[03:16] <StPatrick> jim,  Im waiting
[03:16] <Starnestommy> [Rocc]: you don't appear to be registered and identified, which is why it's failing
[03:16] <StPatrick> jim,  Also afk a sec
[03:16] <StPatrick> amenado,  Afk a sec
[03:16] <[Rocc]> Distro: Do you have any messenger?
[03:16] <brian> How can I make it so Ubuntu 7.10 automatically opens a program when it boots up?
[03:16] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: I have Pidgin
[03:16] <[Rocc]> Distro: what is that?
[03:16] <astro76> [Rocc], DistroJockey you guys could just join an empty channel, like #rocc or whatever ;)
[03:16] <Johnny_5> just out of curiosity...what r the possibilities of my comp getting a virus from bittorrent while runnin' ubuntu
[03:16] <[Rocc]> good point
[03:17] <icanhasadmin> Johnny_5: basically nothing
[03:17] <[Rocc]> #helprocc
[03:17] <[Rocc]> <3
[03:17] <Integration> what is the name of the network manager that comes bundled with ubuntu?
[03:17] <jim> amenado, have him actually use bash rather than set the env var
[03:17] <DistroJockey> astro76: ahh, cheers :)
[03:17] <newbie> Dr_willis, thank you!
[03:17] <Johnny_5> that's what i thought
[03:17] <Johnny_5> thanx
[03:17] <troxor> Integration: networkmanager
[03:17] <mophead> brian: http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+startup+program&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[03:17] <jim> like: bash <enter> make clean <enter> make <enter>
[03:18] <sixforty> In preferences, mouse is set full speed. How do I get the pointer to move faster?
[03:18] <soulreaper> any one have steam on linux?
[03:18] <jim> sixforty: put it in a car
[03:19] <sixforty> jim: it's been 3,278 miles this week. No joke. Next?
[03:19] <StPatrick> jim,  amenado  Im back
[03:19] <brian> mophead: Ah, sorry, thanks >.< Shoulda checked that first.
[03:19] <StPatrick> amenado, jim  Im back
[03:19] <jim> like: bash <enter> make clean <enter> make <enter>
[03:19] <mophead> brian: easy to forget
[03:20] <jim> amenado, have him actually use bash rather than set the env var
[03:21] <jim> anyway gotta go... luck.
[03:21] <sixforty> I get screen flicker when I log out, then in. Know of a way to fix that?
[03:21] <StPatrick> jim,  Thanks a ton.
[03:21] <StPatrick> amenado,  You there man?
[03:21] <StPatrick> jim,  Hlpe me first?
[03:21] <Dr_willis> sixforty,  may be the X server is restarting.. which is often a good thing. :)
[03:21] <jim> no can do. I have a jam session to play at.
[03:22] <mrkeishii> lol
[03:22] <StPatrick> jim,  Ok, but he's gone... and Im mid confusion, lol
[03:22] <StPatrick> jim,  What am i doing?
[03:22] <DeVonne> This may sound stupid, but I want to make sure my kernal is the right one, lol, which comes with gutsy?
[03:22] <sixforty> Ah. I wasn't clear. The flicker and stray dots remain until rebooted.
[03:22] <jim> learning!
[03:22] <StPatrick> jim,  What do i put on console nex...
[03:22] <bazhang> DeVonne: what does uname -r say
[03:22] <StPatrick> jim, damn you jim.
[03:23] <amenado> StPatrick-> i would re-install first. am not comfortable compiling that make ieee80211.. after you installed, we can work on the stock ipw3945 ..
[03:23] <DeVonne> 2.6.22-14-generic
[03:23] <vocx> DeVonne, there is no kernAl, there is a kernel
[03:23] <StPatrick> amenado,  Ok, so, format and install pinux again?
[03:23] <StPatrick> linux even *
[03:23] <bazhang> DeVonne: then you are okay
[03:23] <DeVonne> vocx don't make fun of my spelling lol
[03:23] <DeVonne> ok thank god
[03:23] <amenado> StPatrick and if the stock ipw3945 would not work, then we can work on compiling a newer ieee80211 module
[03:24] <StPatrick> amenado,  So re-install linux?
[03:24] <refrax> I am running windows inside of ubuntu, which is running ubuntu
[03:24] <refrax> :D
[03:24] <DeVonne> now to figure out my next problem, now that that is ruled out, thanks
[03:24] <amenado> StPatrick-> yes..
[03:24] <bazhang> the 3945 does not work? is this straight ubuntu, or ubuntu-based? that is the best supported card out there
[03:25] <mitch__> hello ?
[03:25] <amenado> bazhang-> a step he was following removed the ieee80211 file..so we are stuck
[03:25] <bazhang> amenado: aha thanks
[03:25] <StPatrick> amenado,  Ok, doing so. See you here in a bit.
[03:25] <StPatrick> Dr_willis,  Good nows, Alienarena works wonderfully!
[03:25] <little_unix> [_gandhii_]: how to enable GET command?
[03:25] <amenado> StPatrick-> starwars will be over by then..
[03:25] <Dr_willis> StPatrick,  bad news.. i SUCK at the game...
[03:25] <StPatrick> amenado,  LoL I might go get food before I come back.
[03:26] <mitch__> looking glass doesnt work can somebody help me out ?
[03:26] <Dr_willis> StPatrick,  :)
[03:26] <StPatrick> Dr_willis,  Maybe we'll practice together later, lol
[03:26] <amenado> StPatrick-> okay go ahead..
[03:26] <bazhang> mitch__: how installed
[03:26] <Dr_willis> mitch_,  you mean that sun java 3d desktop thing?
[03:26] <little_unix> [_gandhii_]: how to enable GET command?
[03:26] <mitch__> yes java 3d desktop
[03:26] <Dr_willis> mitch_,  i dont recall it ever working that well... :)
[03:26] <mitch__> hahah is there any way to get it working ?
[03:26] <vocx> little_unix, please explain yourself
[03:27] <little_unix> how to enable GET command?
[03:27] <mitch__> ill post there error
[03:27] <bazhang> mitch__: try the granular livecd; it is not ready for any desktop really
[03:27] <Dr_willis> mitch_,  ive only testedit on some live cd's and it was so.. awkward it was nasty.. it was big news for a few weeks.. then just sort of vanished.
[03:27] <Dr_willis> mitch__,  I perfer the metisse (sp?) desktop as a compiz alternative for fancy stuff.
[03:27] <mitch__> oh so its not worth the trouble then ?
[03:27] <mophead> I'm having trouble finding azureus in the file manager.  In which folder would I find the program?
[03:28] <bazhang> mitch__: not unless you are a master programmer
[03:28] <Dr_willis> mitch__,  its not somthing you will use daily. No.. :)
[03:28] <Dr_willis> mophead,  you installed it?
[03:28] <Dr_willis> !azureus
[03:28] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[03:28] <vocx> mophead, you can install azureus from synaptic and it would appear in the applications menu
[03:28] <mophead> Dr_willis: yeah, I already use it.
[03:28] <rpj8> Pre-req: I'm NOT using gnome. How do I go about changing the speed at which my mouse wheel scrolls? Currently it FLIES at ridiculous rates and I need to slow it down. Is there something in the xorg file?
[03:28] <mitch__> ok haha ill try metisse
[03:28] <mitch__> and ya i installed it
[03:28] <Dr_willis> mophead,  try 'which  azureus' in the terminal
[03:28] <DeVonne> what is indirect rendering?
[03:28] <little_unix> in console exists (other linux) GET command to check php files and etc... in my system (pentium 3) this command dont exists
[03:29] <mophead> Dr_willis: SWEET! Thanks!
[03:29] <little_unix> i use it in cron jobs
[03:29] <little_unix> but its no exists in my console
[03:29] <Dr_willis> little_unix,  try the wget command
[03:29] <Dr_willis> I dont ever recall a 'get' command.
[03:30] <rpj8> Pre-req: I'm NOT using gnome. How do I go about changing the speed at which my mouse wheel scrolls? Currently it FLIES at ridiculous rates and I need to slow it down. Is there something in the xorg file?
[03:30] <little_unix> nono, its dont wget (download files), i need GET
[03:30] <nickrud> ftp get ?
[03:30] <little_unix> i need GET console command
[03:30] <Dr_willis> there no 'GET' in upper case for the shell that i hae ever seen.
[03:30] <barbedsaber> Hi all, when I oppen amarok, is says xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers.
[03:30] <little_unix> no (wget, ftp get, mgt)
[03:30] <rpj8> little_unix: I'ts `get`
[03:30] <mitch__> metisse doesnt show up in synaptic am i spelling it wrong ?
[03:30] <barbedsaber> what do I do
[03:30] <whisperkiller> how would i go about switching from the integrated wireless chip on my laptop to my cardbus netopia?
[03:30] <little_unix> yeah
[03:30] <headrx> So, somehow i managed to f__k my dektop up.. when i open a program now, it no longer apears in the upper right hand 'task bar' .. pidgin for example, whenever i hit the X, it actually closes instead of just minimizing to the sys tray
[03:30] <little_unix> get
[03:30] <rpj8> little_unix: Just use get and then the http address
[03:30] <nickrud> little_unix maybe a little more detail about what you mean maybe?
[03:30] <felix> hello
[03:31] <little_unix> yeah
[03:31] <vocx> little_unix, I'm sorry, we are not understanding you.
[03:31] <bazhang> mitch__: do you know it is in the repos or not
[03:31] <Dr_willis> mitch__, ,  it may not be in there. I tested it out on a mandriva live  cd. :)
[03:31] <mitch__> no i dont think its in the repos
[03:31] <Boohbah> http get?
[03:31] <little_unix> ok
[03:31] <nickrud> php get?
[03:31] <bazhang> mitch__: then that is why it is not in synaptic
[03:31] <little_unix> i use GET in cron jobs
[03:31] <little_unix> to ckeck files (php files)
[03:31] <headrx> can anyone help me with that?
[03:31] <mitch__> ok thanks
[03:32] <bazhang> language headrx
[03:32] <little_unix> no (wget and ftp-get)
[03:32] <Dr_willis> little_unix,  what disrto/os was this under?
[03:32] <Boohbah> little_unix: what do you mean 'check'?
[03:32] <rpj8> Pre-req: I'm NOT using gnome. How do I go about changing the speed at which my mouse wheel scrolls? Currently it FLIES at ridiculous rates and I need to slow it down. Is there something in the xorg file?
[03:32] <little_unix> i use it in red hat
[03:32] <little_unix> :(
[03:32] <osxdude|laptop> YES
[03:32] <osxdude|laptop> YES!!!
[03:32] <osxdude|laptop> YES!!!!!!!! it's booting! yay! everyone dance!
[03:32] <vocx> little_unix, can you post an example of a cron job in a pastebin?
[03:32] <Dr_willis> it may bee some redhat alias then. or other add on. ask in #redhat about it..
[03:32] <mitch__> ugh what a repo urls for metisse ? there none on the website
[03:33] <mitch__> are*
[03:33] <Dr_willis> mitch__,  it may not be in ANY of the repos.
[03:33] <rootlinuxusr> brb
[03:33] <bazhang> mitch__: check the mandriva repos ;]
[03:33] <little_unix> what link?
[03:33] <little_unix> ;)
[03:33] <Dr_willis> http://swik.net/Metisse+Ubuntu
[03:33] <naby> alguien sabe komo arankar el window$ en ubuntu
[03:33] <barbedsaber> when I open amarok or try and play a song through it, it says xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers. how do I fisx it?
[03:34] <bazhang> naby portuguese?
[03:34] <astro76> !pt | naby
[03:34] <ubotu> naby: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[03:34] <DeVonne> do I need xgl for dekstop effects or compiz?
[03:34] <mitch__> no open gl
[03:34] <Dr_willis> DeVonne,  depends onyour video card.
[03:34] <icanhasadmin> DeVonne: NEITHER
[03:34] <DeVonne> radeon 9000 :\
[03:34] <icanhasadmin> DeVonne: never ever ever install xgl
[03:34] <barbedsaber> excuse me..
[03:34] <icanhasadmin> DeVonne: it's entirely pointless in 99.9 percent of situations
[03:35] <DeVonne> I still want to play with it! :P
[03:35] <barbedsaber> I am having some problems with amarok
[03:35] <DeVonne> They wont enable, trying to figure out why
[03:35] <bazhang> DeVonne: ask what the people in #compiz-fusion have to say
[03:35] <icanhasadmin> DeVonne: #compiz-fusion can help you there
[03:35] <metbsd> does ubuntu run well on tablet pc?
[03:35] <level09> how do I move the content of a directory up one level ?
[03:35] <level09> will this work mv * ../ ?
[03:36] <DeVonne> ok thanks, I love the ubuntu community, so helpful
[03:36] <vocx> barbedsaber, just repeat the question, don't say "excuse me" or "I have a problem" it is distracting.
[03:36] <Dr_willis> level09,  dont use wildcards without knowing. :)
[03:36] <level09> Dr_willis: I'm not :) just asking
[03:36] <astro76> level09: that will miss .dot files
[03:36] <Dr_willis> level09,  rm ../dirname/*  perhaps
[03:36] <naby> sorry I speak neither Englishman nor Portuguese, where I can find a channel in Spanish
[03:36] <metbsd> does ubuntu run well on tablet pc?
[03:36] <bazhang> !es
[03:36] <ubotu> Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[03:36] <level09> perhaps :D
[03:36] <barbedsaber> When I open amarok, it says xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers. how do I fix it?
[03:36] <metbsd> too bad i have to use windows xp!!
[03:36]  * level09 trying ...
[03:36] <naby> thnks
[03:36] <vocx> barbedsaber, I don't know the answer to your question but open up synaptic and install xine packages, maybe you are missing some.
[03:37] <barbedsaber> it worked befor I upgraded to hardy
[03:37]  * vocx doesn't speak Englishman either.
[03:37] <barbedsaber> are they oboulete, maybe?
[03:37] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 barbedsaber
[03:37] <headrx> how do i barbedsaber : install VLC, it will play anything you can throw at it
[03:37] <mophead> try #ubuntu+1 for hardy questions
[03:37] <barbedsaber> vld is awsome, but I like amarok
[03:38] <bazhang> hardy discussion in other channel barbedsaber
[03:38] <barbedsaber> ok, thanks
[03:38] <level09> so is there any command to move files and folder (sub folders )
[03:38] <headrx> i deleted everything off my system tray.. now when i X out pidgin, it doesnt go to the sys tray, how do i fix this
[03:39] <icesword> man mv
[03:39] <osxdude|laptop> ...
[03:39] <vocx> level09, "mv /folde /folder"   read the manual page "man mv"
[03:39] <level09> thanks
[03:39] <bazhang> headrx: the x closes apps
[03:39] <astro76> headrx: perhaps you removed the tray itself, try right click on panel, add to panel... and add the "notification area"
[03:39] <level09> vocx: can I use mv  /dir/* /newdir ?
[03:40] <headrx> thank you, that worked
[03:40] <vocx> level09, you need to create the newdir first. Also, read the manual page, it indicates how to move several files, and so.
[03:40] <level09> THANKS
[03:41] <towlie_> whats the name of the linux app that formats c++ code by indenting it
[03:41] <downstairs> is there a game like call of duty for ubuntu?
[03:41] <bazhang> towlie_: you want to add tabs?
[03:41] <vocx> towlie_, I think it's "indent" but is included in other utilities
[03:41] <downstairs> i have openarena with a mod, but that's not what i mean.
[03:41] <felix> how to remove the Lumaqq
[03:42] <bazhang> felix how did you install it
[03:42] <felix> I forgot it
[03:42] <bazhang> downstairs you might try with wine
[03:43] <bazhang> felix then no idea
[03:43] <towlie_> yes
[03:43] <bazhang> downstairs: check their appdb for cod4
[03:43] <felix> I don't kown where I install it
[03:43] <FnordPerfect> hello again.. I still haven't solved my problem with the root-partition set to read-only after booting..
[03:44] <bazhang> felix if you cannot give that kind of info we cannot give you good answers
[03:44] <metbsd> anyone use a tablet pc?
[03:44] <headrx> no
[03:44] <downstairs> bazhang:thanx
[03:44] <headrx> but i know someone that has gutsy installed on one
[03:44] <anton> hello everyone
[03:45] <anton> anyone?
[03:45] <metbsd> did it boot?
[03:45] <metbsd> on table?
[03:45] <vocx> felix, exactly as bazhang says
[03:45] <headrx> Yeh
[03:45] <downstairs> bazhang: any alternatives? my comp isn't that powerful. i have to run openarena on minimum graphics
[03:45] <anton> help pls...
[03:45] <metbsd> what's openarea?
[03:45] <headrx> anton : post your question
[03:45] <vocx> !ask | anton
[03:45] <ubotu> anton: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[03:45] <bazhang> downstairs: if I recall cod4 is fairly resource hungry, not sure how to overcome that
[03:45] <anton> hi compwiz18
[03:45] <Y-Town> anton: ask your questiom
[03:46] <bazhang> metbsd: a game
[03:46] <downstairs> metbsd:sorry i meant openarena
[03:46] <FnordPerfect> Is it possible that the partition is re-mounted r/o because some init script exits with a fail-status? Can I find out, which?
[03:46] <anton> thanks
[03:46] <anton> thanks ubotu
[03:46] <metbsd> game? on linux? hahaha
[03:46] <vocx> !bot | anton
[03:46] <ubotu> anton: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:46] <anton> ahmm im juz new
[03:46] <mophead> !offtopic
[03:46] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:46] <anton> i want to update my compiz fusion 5.0.2 to compiz fusion to 6.0
[03:47] <vocx> FnordPerfect, did you provide a read only option to the kernel at boot time?
[03:47] <crdlb> anton: what version of ubuntu?
[03:47] <crdlb> anton: also, you mean 0.5.2 and 0.6.0 :)
[03:47] <anton> 7.10
[03:47] <anton> yes indeed
[03:47] <anton> thanks
[03:47] <crdlb> anton: despite what the package versions imply, you _do_ have 0.6.0
[03:48] <anton> i have now a 0.5.2
[03:48] <FnordPerfect> vocx: yes, it's provided by grub. but this is normal, isn't it? it is supposed to be remounted r/w after fsck.
[03:48] <metbsd> does kde have comizfusion?
[03:48] <crdlb> anton: 0.6.0 was released shortly after ubuntu 7.10, so ubuntu included a development snapshot from just before the release
[03:48] <anton> and i think i dont have other extra plug ins
[03:48] <anton> like snow
[03:48] <bazhang> metbsd: it does when you install a couple of things
[03:48] <crdlb> anton: see the +git on the end of the version number
[03:48] <felix> the LumaQQ just can't   login and now I using the eva
[03:48] <vocx> What other symptoms are there. What does "mount" say?
[03:48] <crdlb> anton: snow is not officially supported in any version, but if you want it for gutsy, join #compiz-fusion
[03:48] <metbsd> felix: are you chinese?
[03:48] <felix> yes
[03:49] <vocx> FnordPerfect, ^
[03:49] <FnordPerfect> after logging in, I can remount it manually with -o remount,rw without any problems
[03:49] <anton> ok thank you very much for ur help crdlb
[03:49] <anton> it was greatly appreciated crdlb
[03:49] <metbsd> i use qq on windows. it's nice
[03:50] <metbsd> you don't get qq on linux
[03:50] <bazhang> offtopic
[03:50] <metbsd> because linux don't support qq
[03:50] <FnordPerfect> vocx: ^
[03:50] <felix> I kown
[03:51] <vocx> FnordPerfect, What does mount say? I only have (rw,error=remount-ro) as options
[03:51] <bazhang> eva works fine with qq
[03:52] <FnordPerfect> vocx: you mean, what's in /etc/fstab? I have rw,error=remount-ro' and additionally defaults' as an option.
[03:52] <allan_> hi,all
[03:53] <vocx> FnordPerfect, type "mount" in the terminal
[03:53] <osxdude|laptop> hmm
[03:53] <FnordPerfect> vocx: oh.. ok. (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[03:54] <osxdude|laptop> will someone tell me why my boot screen is at too high of a resolution for my monitor? how can I fix it?
[03:54] <vocx> FnordPerfect, well it says it is read/write? So what's the problem?
[03:54] <icanhasadmin> osxdude|laptop: change res in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:54] <xtknight> !fb | osxdude|laptop this is probably something to do with it?  if you mean grub screen?
[03:54] <ubotu> osxdude|laptop this is probably something to do with it?  if you mean grub screen?: Information about changing your framebuffer modes in GRUB can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer#grub
[03:55] <FnordPerfect> vocx: it is read/write because I remounted it manually.
[03:55] <osxdude|laptop> nonono
[03:55] <downstairs> are there any call of duty linux alternatives?
[03:55] <Ashfire908> uh, my terminal is broken.
[03:55] <xtknight> downstairs, well many id software games work on linux.  ut2004 works on linux as well.  enemy territory quake wars, quake4...
[03:55] <bazhang> downstairs: that are not resource intensive?
[03:55] <downstairs> bazhang: yes please
[03:55] <vocx> FnordPerfect, oh. Well, check that after a reboot. Mmmm. How did you mount the root partition if you were using it? Are you using a Live CD?
[03:55] <bazhang> downstairs: doubtful
[03:56] <xtknight> dont think so
[03:56] <downstairs> xtnight: ut2004 what years is that set in?
[03:56] <michael__> i got alot of my windows games to work on ubuntu with no trouble and litle lag through wine
[03:56] <allan_> I'm write a plugin for audacious, but it has some problem
[03:56] <TheFearsomeFufu> Is there a package that lists any "orphaned" packages? For example libraries that I don't need, etc
[03:56] <downstairs> bazhang: i can play openarena fine.
[03:56] <xtknight> downstairs, no idea.  it's not a war game tho it's a futuristic game
[03:56] <downstairs> xtnight.
[03:56] <downstairs> thanks
[03:56] <downstairs> anyway
[03:56] <xtknight> ya
[03:56] <bazhang> !info deborphan
[03:56] <ubotu> deborphan (source: deborphan): Find orphaned libraries. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.23 (gutsy), package size 69 kB, installed size 420 kB
[03:56] <FnordPerfect> vocx: No, I logged in at the terminal and remounted it with "mount -o remount,rw /"
[03:56] <osxdude|laptop> omg
[03:56] <xtknight> downstairs, enemy territory (not quake wars, but wolfenstein enemy territory) is based in 1942 i believe.  WW2
[03:57] <allan_> because used libglade in the plugin
[03:57] <xtknight> downstairs, it's objective based and team based...fireteams, etc
[03:57] <downstairs> xtnight: that is exactly what im looking for thankS!
[03:57] <bazhang> TheFearsomeFufu: see deborphan
[03:57] <xtknight> downstairs, but it stil uses pixel shaders i think and all that.  if that's what you mean by resource intensive :\
[03:57] <TheFearsomeFufu> bazhang: Thanks.
[03:57] <michael__> XTnight thats unrelated take it to *ubuntuofftopic
[03:57] <xtknight> ok i can meet you in #ubuntu-offtopic , downstairs
[03:58] <downstairs> k
[03:58] <vocx> FnordPerfect, does it give any errors on startup?
[03:58] <michael__> thank you
[03:58] <allan_> when it's running, the system tell me :undefined symbol: glade_xml_new
[03:58] <TheFearsomeFufu> Another question: Is it ok to remove the "ubuntu-desktop" package? I'm trying to remove some things I don't need, but one of them depends on the ubuntu-desktop package
[03:58] <osxdude|laptop> !fb
[03:58] <ubotu> Information about changing your framebuffer modes in GRUB can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer#grub
[03:58] <bazhang> TheFearsomeFufu: that is a metapackage; what else does it wish to remove
[03:59] <FnordPerfect> vocx: yes, there were plenty of errors, since I screwed it badly while downgraded from hardy back to gutsy. but i fixed most.
[03:59] <nickrud> TheFearsomeFufu yes, but release upgrades generally require that package be installled to complete
[03:59] <michael__> that question came up yesterday i believe that it is ok to remove the desktop package but ma not sure
[03:59] <axel> Hello! How to recover a wiki-entry which got lost while trying to save it?
[03:59] <TheFearsomeFufu> nickrud: Ah, ok. If it's needed for release upgrades, I'll keep it then
[03:59] <TheFearsomeFufu> Thanks
[03:59]  * nickrud cringes, downgrade
[03:59] <Ashfire908> i'm trying excute a file (with ./file) and i know it exists, and i know it's excutable, but bash keeps saying the file doesn't exist http://pastebin.com/d5de3518b
[03:59] <vocx> FnordPerfect, then don't ask here! man you have been seriously breaking apart your system by doing that? Don't you think it's important to mention that beforehand?!
[04:00] <bazhang> axel got lost? please clarify
[04:00] <DistroJockey> axel: google's cache maybe?
[04:00] <Flannel> Ashfire908: Does it have a proper shebang?
[04:01] <HugoEnder> Hello World
[04:01] <Ashfire908> Flannel, yes.
[04:01] <Monobi2> I don't have a working CDROM and my BIOS doesnt support booting from a USB stick. What am I to do to install ubuntu?
[04:01] <FnordPerfect> vocx: uhm, sorry... I mentioned it the last time I joined the channel.. also,I fixed most of it.
[04:01] <Ashfire908> Flannel, "#! /usr/bin/env python"
[04:02] <bazhang> Monobi2: what system is your computer running now
[04:02] <axel> bazhang: I typed quite a long article, but saving did not work. So I pressed the back-button. This did not work either.
[04:02] <Monobi2> bazhang: vista >_> , I want to dual boot.
[04:02] <Monobi2> bazhang: I'm on the system without a working CDROM.
[04:02] <axel> DistroJockey: Ist was not saved on a server. I wanted as the entry got lost.
[04:02] <vocx> FnordPerfect, well, big news for you. Hardy is beta now, so get the beta and reinstall. Otherwise try the alternate Gutsy CD and upgrade the packages from it. Those regarding installation scripts.
[04:03] <bazhang> Monobi2: and vista works on that older computer? you could try a net install, wubi, or a couple of other options
[04:03] <amenado> Ashfire908-> put that path in your PATH and execute the .py or cd to that dir then execute
[04:03] <Ashfire> Flannel, sorry
[04:03] <Monobi2> bazhang: the computer is only a year old. Sadly the CD drive has gone to crap. By net install you mean via LAN ?
[04:04] <axel> Monobi2: You could also install it from an USB-stick.
[04:04] <DistroJockey> axel: ahh, bummer. Sorry, no further ideas.
[04:04] <mark[oz]> has anyone installed ubuntu on usb?
[04:04] <Monobi2> axel: 23:01 < Monobi2> I don't have a working CDROM and my BIOS doesnt support booting from a USB stick. What am I to do to install ubuntu?
[04:05] <Ashfire908> amenado, i'm in the directory
[04:05] <bazhang> Monobi2: what computer make and model please
[04:05] <Monobi2> mark[oz]: it SAYS it supports USB, but I tried to place the ubuntu CD into my external CD drive, and modify the BIOS, but it didnt work
[04:05] <amenado> Ashfire908-> then just  ./xxx.py
[04:05] <Monobi2> Er
[04:05] <Monobi2> axel: ^^
[04:05] <axel> Monobi2:net, disks.
[04:05] <Monobi2> bazhang: er, Gateway ?
[04:05] <bazhang> Monobi2: precise make and model please
[04:05] <Monobi2> MT6451
[04:06] <sparky_here> I just installed 8.04 trying to use desktop effects all is working but the cube when i set it to 2x2 virtual desktops it shows 4 on the taskbar but I can only access 2 any ideas???
[04:06] <FnordPerfect> vocx: well, ok then. thanks for helping. I'll just do that. I would have prefered to find and fix the error by myself, but by now I've wasted enough time with that. mine, and yours.
[04:06] <axel> bazhang: Any idea for the lost wiki-entry?
[04:06] <vocx> sparky_here, please don't ask questions about hardy here, until it's release has been made official.
[04:06] <xtknight> !Hardy
[04:06] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[04:07] <sparky_here> Sorry my bad
[04:07] <Ashfire908> amenado, nope http://pastebin.com/d15fa9e31
[04:07] <vocx> FnordPerfect, no problem.
[04:07] <HugoEnder> i am having problems logging on to root using su- to install something
[04:07] <HugoEnder> what are my options?
[04:07] <FnordPerfect> bye *
[04:07] <jim_beam> has anybody installed e17 in ubuntu 7.1
[04:07] <nickrud> HugoEnder   sudo <command>   or sudo -i   for a root shell
[04:07] <Ashfire908> HugoEnder, in ubuntu you use sudo
[04:08] <HugoEnder> ooo
[04:08] <bazhang> Monobi2: that has a broadcom card in it?
[04:08] <HugoEnder> then what does su - do in ubuntu?
[04:08] <vocx> HugoEnder, don't use "su" use "sudo"
[04:08] <Monobi2> bazhang: er, yes
[04:08] <Ashfire908> HugoEnder, same. but in ubuntu there is no root pass
[04:08] <bazhang> axel: did you try your firefox cache
[04:08] <amenado> Ashfire908-> i dont think  "." is in your $PATH
[04:08] <Monobi2> bazhang: s/broadcom card/wireless card/ ?
[04:08] <madagascar> Hello ! after upgrade to 8.04, MailScanner stopped working. Now i can't reinstall and can't deinstall due to inconsistent state
[04:08] <HugoEnder> so what is the highest permission in ubuntu ashfire?
[04:08] <bazhang> Monobi2: any friedns with a cd drive?
[04:08] <Ashfire908> HugoEnder, root.
[04:08] <vocx> madagascar, , please don't ask questions about hardy here, until it's release has been made official.
[04:09]  * nickrud copies vocx's text replace
[04:09] <HugoEnder> Ashfire908, but there is no pass for root?
[04:09] <bazhang> madagascar: #ubuntu+1 please
[04:09] <Monobi2> bazhang: I have an external CD driver
[04:09] <bazhang> Monobi2: one that works?
[04:09] <Ashfire908> HugoEnder, yes there is no password for root.
[04:09] <Monobi2> bazhang: yes, it is external
[04:09] <Monobi2> bazhang: just bought it tonight
[04:09] <bazhang> Monobi2: then problem solved
[04:09] <vocx> nickrud, seriously I felt like that was deja vu, I was expecting nickrud though
[04:10] <Monobi2> bazhang: how so? my BIOS doesnt see it :|
[04:10] <bazhang> Monobi2: that is what I use to install ubuntu on my eeepc
[04:10] <HugoEnder> Ashfire908, so what stops anyone from installing stuff on ur computer using root?
[04:10] <nickrud> vocx heh. found out I had one already, just forgot #ubuntu+1 is handling hardy questions until release,  /j #ubuntu+1
[04:10] <Ashfire908> !sudo | HugoEnder
[04:10] <ubotu> HugoEnder: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[04:10] <Ashfire908> HugoEnder, when a user account has no pass, you can't login via a password.
[04:10] <Monobi2> bazhang: well, you are going to have to walk me through it ;) . I modified my BIOS to boot from the various USB options and the Hard Drive last, but it didn't work.
[04:11] <bazhang> Monobi2: you may need to get vista drivers for it then; not sure about vista, might ask in ##windows first then come back
[04:11] <Monobi2> bazhang: vista drivers?
[04:11] <nickrud> HugoEnder and only the first, installation created user has sudo privs, unless you grant them by adding a user to the admin group
[04:11] <axel> bazhang: I tried my Konqueror history.
[04:11] <vocx> HugoEnder, basically only the users that are in the admin group can use sudo, others cannot.
[04:12] <bazhang> Monobi2: you are using vista right now, yes?
[04:12] <Monobi2> Yes
[04:12] <bazhang> Monobi2: and you have a problem with Vista recognizing an external cd drive, correct?
[04:13] <Monobi2> bazhang: not vista
[04:13] <Monobi2> bazhang: the BIOS
[04:13] <Monobi2> bazhang: I have the driver software for the hard drive
[04:13] <Monobi2> bazhang: er, s/hard drive/external CD drive/
[04:13] <bazhang> Monobi2: once you get that solved (hardware/bios issue) we can help you with ubuntu on there; until that time it is not really an ubuntu issue
[04:14] <vocx> Monobi2, It should be recognized by the linux kernel, and if it is not, then it won't work since the windows drivers are not compatible with linux.
[04:14] <Monobi2> bazhang: okay. Well, that is my problem. I have used ubuntu on two other machines I have, so installing ubuntu itself isnt the problem :)
[04:14] <bazhang> Monobi2: which is why I suggested asking for help in ##windows and then coming back; we will still be here when you return
[04:14] <Kurban_Haydarov> hi
[04:14] <Monobi2> :)
[04:14] <HugoEnder> vocx, nickrud : then what stops something from just coming to my computer when i am away and typing sudo to install malicious software?
[04:14] <SilentSounD> how can i make backspace == back in firefox ?
[04:15] <nickrud> HugoEnder they need to know your user password
[04:15] <bazhang> axel: no luck in konqueror?
[04:15] <vocx> HugoEnder, well they need your password still.
[04:15] <HugoEnder> o oka
[04:15] <Kurban_Haydarov> hi
[04:16] <axel> bazhang: Not so far.
[04:16] <madagascar> hi again - how can i re-install or remove a package which "is in a very bad inconsistent state" ?
[04:16] <HugoEnder> thank you for your help guys
[04:16] <Kurban_Haydarov> I need some help guy about my friend's wireless problem
[04:16] <axel> Does anybody know how to access the cashe of Konqueror?
[04:16] <ty> Trying to open qparted and getting this error "Failed to execute child process "qtparted-root" (No such file or directory)"
[04:17] <sjovan> axel: i don't use KDE, but what do you mean by the cashe of konqueror?
[04:17] <nickrud> madagascar sudo dpkg -r --force-remove-reinstreq <pkgname>
[04:17] <bazhang> axel: I know this wont help now, but what I generally do is type it in open office and auto save then cut and paste it to whatever I am writing online--that way the web wiki messups are alleviated a bit
[04:17] <madagascar> thanks nickrud, i'll try it
[04:17] <bazhang> madagascar: this is gutsy or hardy
[04:18] <madagascar> this is an ubuntu question
[04:18] <nickrud> madagascar mostly works, if it says reinstall required in the error message
[04:18] <bazhang> madagascar: if it is hardy then the other channel
[04:19] <nickrud> #ubuntu+1 is handling hardy questions until release,  /j #ubuntu+1 madagascar if that doesn't fix it
[04:19] <madagascar> i think the help i need is version non-specific
[04:19] <Ashfire908> amenado, path is not needed when i give it the path (./), but adding ./ to PATH does nothing
[04:19] <nickrud> madagascar I understand that, but the package you have problems with is hardy specific, it might very well be a known hardy issue
[04:20] <axel> bazhang: Thanks for the hint.
[04:20] <spreda> is there a 64 bit ubuntu channel?
[04:20] <Iz> how can update gnome?
[04:20] <luckylin> i have a silly noob question but here goes, i'm all out of CD-r's but i have 100 DVD-R's so will a DVD-R work for burning ubuntu (probably does sorry to ask)
[04:21] <bazhang> sorry to be of immediate help axel; I have had that happen and know how much it stinks
[04:21] <bazhang> err not
[04:21] <Starnestommy> spreda: this channel is for 32-bit and 64-bit
[04:21] <nickrud> Iz you would have to compile gnome to upgrade it in a release, the new version is released with each new ubuntu release
[04:21] <vocx> luckylin, if you have that many you only need to burn ONE to try out? man do you really need to ask a question like this one?
[04:21] <bazhang> luckylin: sure no problem
[04:21] <climatewarrior>  yes if you have a dvd burner you can do that
[04:21] <climatewarrior> there's even a dvd version of ubuntu
[04:22] <axel> sjovan: I don't mean the history of browsed URLs, but the "buffer" (Zwischenspeicher in German).
[04:22] <amenado> Ashfire908-> what does ./rtvm2.py supposed to do?
[04:22] <luckylin> thanks (yes i have a dvd/cd burner)
[04:22] <bazhang> luckylin: then you are good to go
[04:22] <Iz> i think i will need this cause the ubuntu i just installed was downloaded a time ago.. i got ubuntu 7.04 the feisty fawn and gnome v. 2.18
[04:22] <ty> Trying to open qparted and getting this error "Failed to execute child process "qtparted-root" (No such file or directory)"
[04:23] <Iz> arent there new versions so far?
[04:23] <luckylin> ok one more retarded question
[04:23] <luckylin> can you put more then one ISO on a dvd and have like a dual boot iso
[04:23] <luckylin> like ubuntu and suse
[04:23] <vocx> Iz, to get the latest you need a new Ubuntu version. After that, there are no updates, unless there is a security patch.
[04:24] <bazhang> luckylin: no; it is an image so it leaves no free space--not a data disk
[04:24] <luckylin> oh.just thought i'de ask
[04:24] <climatewarrior> luckylin, as far as I know, no you cant do that
[04:24] <Iz> that means i have to downlaod the new ubuntu version burn in and reinstall ? or can i somehow upgrade ubuntu?
[04:24] <nickrud> Iz 2.20 came with 7.10, and 2.22 will come with 8.04
[04:24] <Dr_willis> luckylin,  ive seen some live-cd-dvds that do that.. but they dont do it quite that way
[04:24] <vocx> luckylin, That would be complicated. Probably would be possible to merge the two distros so they would still be one ISO, but sounds very strange indeed.
[04:24] <luckylin> yeah i noticed all iso's say zero free space even though they aren't as big as CD-R's
[04:24] <bazhang> lz that is up to you; you can net upgrade or do a fresh install
[04:25] <DistroJockey> luckylin: is possible, but not a question for here. You would need to edit the iso I assume
[04:25] <Iz> i prefer net upgrade :) how is this possible?
[04:25] <StPatrick> amenado,  I'm back. Fresh install.
[04:25] <bazhang> lz from feisty to gutsy?
[04:25] <vocx> Iz, yes, you can upgrade ubuntu from the net. But you have to upgrade the entire distro, not just gnome, so it may need to download 1 GB.
[04:26] <nickrud> !upgrade | Iz
[04:26] <ubotu> Iz: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:26] <bazhang> lz also dont do this on dialup ;]
[04:26] <amenado> StPatrick-> paste your ifconfig; iwconfig; route -n
[04:27] <nickrud> bazhang you are silly ;)
[04:27] <StPatrick> amenado,  is that one solid command?
[04:27] <vocx> amenado, since I feel it's gonna take a while, I suggest you two move to private messages or a private channel.
[04:28] <StPatrick> amenado,  Im in #HelpStPat
[04:29] <Iz> thx guys :) i just upgrating:)
[04:29] <sjovan> axel: no sorry mate, i can't help you.
[04:30] <M4rotku> can i upgrade to the hardy beta without install all of the other updates for gusty?
[04:30] <icesword> M4rotku, unless you uninstall them
[04:30] <nickrud> M4rotku not advised, you should be totally up to date in gutsy before upgrading to hardy
[04:31] <M4rotku> nickrud: the reason i want to is because an update package that i installed in the past wiped out my wireless card configs and i had to reinstall everything, that's why i have to upgrade again in the first place
[04:32] <nickrud> M4rotku you could try, but the results are undefined
[04:32] <tonyyarusso> M4rotku: Hardy questions should go in #ubuntu+1 btw - they'll be able to give you more detail.
[04:32] <Legendario> hi. can anyone give me some help with the gfxboot? I tried to install it, but my boot doesn't show anything?
[04:32] <M4rotku> tonyyarusso, thanks, i'll try that channel
[04:34] <crumbym> Just checking things out..
[04:34] <pierrelux> I'm struggling to get ubuntu running on my macbook pro v4.1 ... first tried with 7.10 with the livedcd then the alternate but its failed to install grub or lilo. Now with hardy, black screen... nothings appening
[04:35] <crumbym> nikki try this website: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[04:35] <nikki8965> My linux keeps rebooting.  Do I need to reinstall?  It's only on 5 gigs of drive space, because I was stupid, and didn't size my partitions when installing
[04:36] <emma> maybe someone could help you with gparted
[04:37] <jim> is parted the thing used by the installer to do partitioning?
[04:37] <nikki8965> I tried to use it, but it won't let me resize my windows partition
[04:37] <pierrelux> crumbym: if this was for me... obviously, I checked it first
[04:37] <jim> nikki8965: ntfs?\
[04:37] <nikki8965> yeah
[04:37] <jim> that's harder
[04:38] <crumbym> nikki have you tried this one: http://kahvipapu.com/blog/2007/12/29/liberating-macbook-pro/
[04:38] <bumpin4> hi all
[04:38] <jim> it'd be easier to find a spare hd
[04:38] <nikki8965> Ok.  I have an external HD that I need to dig out of a box
[04:39] <crumbym> nikki I have Linux installed on my MacBook Pro.. There were some settings on that last hotlink that will help yoj.
[04:39] <jim> nikki8965: does it have stuff you need?
[04:39] <Jordan_U> pierrelux, Have you seen this guide ( for V3 ) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro/SantaRosa ?
[04:39] <jim> or can you wipe it with no worries?
[04:39] <nikki8965> It has stuff I need
[04:39] <earl_> hey guys. i'm wondering if there is any sort of sega genesis (or ideally, sega cd) emulator available for ubuntu.
[04:39] <jim> hmm.
[04:40] <pierrelux> Jordan_U: thanks but I already went over it... it seems now that I can boot in safe graphic mode with the 8.04 installer
[04:40] <jim> nikki8965: how many partitions and what kind?
[04:40] <Jordan_U> pierrelux, Then you get an error when installing Grub?
[04:40] <jim> does ubuntu use lvm by default?
[04:40] <nikki8965> just one partition that I can think of.  It's something I got from walmart
[04:41] <Jordan_U> jim, No
[04:41] <crumbym> jim No
[04:41] <crumbym> Jim it uses Ext3
[04:41] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=451647 earl_
[04:41] <izinucs> jim, you only get lvm on the alternate cd
[04:41] <emma> earl_,  -- http://www.squish.net/generator/description.html
[04:42] <izinucs> crumbym, lvm is not a file system type.. it's a partitioning type of thing
[04:42] <bazhang> pierrelux: hardy? that should be discussed in #ubuntu+1 thanks
[04:42] <jim> I'm understanding that ubuntu is changing how it's related to debian in terms of its content... are they also changing how they obtain software (snapshot of debian sid)?
[04:42] <earl_> thanks!
[04:42] <StPatrick> jim,  Wanna have a go at my wireless now?
[04:42] <izinucs> nikki8965, did you get the $200 gOS?
[04:42] <crumbym> iz - I know, I was letting him know what the default partion format was
[04:43] <crumbym> LVM is Logical Volume
[04:43] <sjovan> hey, any of you know of a dc++ clone for linux? maby something that is in the rep?
[04:43] <Jordan_U> jim, What do you mean by "ubuntu is changing how it's related to debian in terms of its content" ?
[04:43] <pierrelux> bazhang: this is a general question... nothing specific about hardy. I first wanted to use the stable 7.10
[04:43] <jim> let me see if I can remember closer... I heard that ubuntu had different design values than debian...
[04:43] <bazhang> pierrelux: what system are you running now?
[04:44] <jim> any truth to that? have those values changed recently?
[04:44] <nikki8965> no.  I paid like $80 for it.  It has 'sea' in the name of it.  I'm trying to google it
[04:44] <jim> seagate?
[04:44] <level09> how can I detect the full path to some directory ?
[04:44] <nikki8965> yep.  seagate
[04:44] <jim> cd there, pwd
[04:44] <pierrelux> bazhang: not running ubuntu yet... I'm still trying to install ubuntu completely
[04:44] <level09> pwd ?
[04:44] <crumbym> pwd
[04:45] <level09> ok thanks :)
[04:45] <jim> man pwd for details
[04:45] <bazhang> pierrelux: what issues are you having installing gutsy
[04:45] <earl_> this generator... won't emulate segacd, will it?
[04:45] <pierrelux> bazhang: it failed to install grub or lilo
[04:45] <izinucs> nikki8965, a seagate computer?  they make harddrives.. is it a laptop or desktop?
[04:45] <level09> great :)
[04:45] <crumbym> level09 - you might like whereis as well
[04:45] <jim> pwd gives you the fully qualified path name to the dir you're in
[04:45] <level09> i'm actually staring to like linux :D
[04:45] <level09> that's what I want, I'm installing some complicated crm
[04:45] <nikki8965> It's an external harddrive.  It hooks up to a computer using a usb cord
[04:45] <Jordan_U> jim, Not that I have heard, the main design differences are that Ubuntu limits the architectures it supports and focuses on the Desktop, also they are more lenient with "non-free" software ( they include Firefox by default still instead of iceweasel and allow easy installation of proprietary drivers )
[04:46] <jim> stop staring! it's embarrisin!
[04:46] <crumbym> Anyone have suggestions on a good screen capture besides gtk-recordmydesktop?
[04:46] <bazhang> pierrelux: this was from the livecd or what? ubuntu or ubuntu-based; what errors are you getting please be precise
[04:46] <nikki8965> But, I could partitionit, and install ubuntu?
[04:46] <jim> StPatrick: maybe after awhile
[04:46] <jim> oh, oops
[04:47] <jim> nikki8965: you -could-
[04:47] <izinucs> nikki8965, yes..  however installing on an external HD requires some finesse. there are how to's on ubuntuforums.org and elsewhere on the web..
[04:47] <level09> what does sudo command actually do ?
[04:47] <pierrelux> bazhang: I was unable to use the livecd (staled with low-graphics mode) so I tried with the alternate (64 bits)
[04:47] <jim> but you'd lose the drive unless you back it up
[04:47] <izinucs> nikki8965, why not just install in on your desktop HD?
[04:47] <jim> izinucs: how would he resize an ntfs
[04:47] <earl_> level09: some linux distributions make you log in as "root", meaning the computer administrator, to have more permission to do stuff
[04:47] <bazhang> pierrelux: if you give precise info error we can troubleshoot, otherwise...
[04:48] <earl_> level09: sudo'ing something gives you that level of access temporarily, and asks for your password
[04:48] <nikki8965> I don't have a destop
[04:48] <Jordan_U> bazhang, Try choosing to have the installer *not* install Grub ( so the install does not fail ) then install it manually yourself ( this is what I had to do with my macbook pro back before Grub support for Apples BIOS emulation was as good )
[04:48] <crumbym> level09 - you can also use su
[04:48] <pierrelux> bazhang: no special messages except a red screen with a popup saying it failed to install grub... then the same with lilo (I did not try to install on MBR to mess with refit)
[04:48] <nikki8965> just a laptop
[04:48] <level09> earl_: thanks ! very helpful
[04:48] <jim> you should be able to (build and) install su and/or sudo on any linux dist... no one's forcing anything
[04:48] <level09> so no need for sudo if i'm a root user
[04:48] <izinucs> jim, on install you'll be able to resize
[04:48] <earl_> level09: don't be a root user
[04:48] <level09> why ?
[04:48] <earl_> level09: do you leave your doors open?
[04:49] <crumbym> level09 = ROOT BAD!
[04:49] <earl_> it's easier to get in and out of your house that way, so it seems like a good idea, right?
[04:49] <jim> level09: that is a long story with some points of charge associated
[04:49] <jim> ever run dos?
[04:49] <level09> sure, but how is that ? I'm using a secure private key
[04:49] <earl_> thing is, jack the ripper also gets into your house just as easily. so it's not.
[04:49] <izinucs> nikki8965, how does the live cd run on it.?  wireless work?
[04:49] <Jordan_U> level09, But if your web browser is compromised it can do whatever it wants to your system
[04:50] <cjzjm100> Are the softwares of the LTS release  in the repo  in-sync with the the other release(not the LTS release)?
[04:50] <bazhang> level09: irc on root? hahaha
[04:50] <level09> I'm on putty client
[04:50] <nickrud> cjzjm100 no, they are substantially older, except for security fixes and a few backports
[04:50] <Jordan_U> level09, Doesn't matter what authentication you use to get root privileges, if you are running applications unnecessarily as root you are at risk.
[04:50] <level09> how to disable root login ?
[04:50] <izinucs> nickrud, unless he's talking about hardy
[04:51] <level09> and how do I get back if I disabled it :D
[04:51] <jim> level09: one thing, if you're not too familiar with the reasons for that, conventional wisdom suggests it's a bad idea...
[04:51] <nickrud> izinucs true, but context leads me to think of dapper
[04:51] <bazhang> level09: uh oh
[04:52] <jim> level09: also not good idea
[04:52] <TehMwak> anyone run 7.10 and have a X2300?
[04:52] <level09> jim: what ?
[04:52] <whisperkiller> how do i get the chipset of my cardbus wireless card?
[04:52] <earl_> level09: basically, if you don't need to be root to do something, which is almost always the case unless it's something that could potentially damage your computer, don't be root
[04:52] <izinucs> whisperkiller, lspci in terminal I think
[04:53] <bazhang> usb whisperkiller? lsusb
[04:53] <jim> level09: it's not a good idea to disable the root acct, you'll need it to fix things (for one)
[04:53] <bazhang> whisperkiller: pci is lspci
[04:53] <whisperkiller> cardbus
[04:53] <level09> okay I'm convinced :D , what steps should I do now ?
[04:53] <level09> just switch to normal user ?
[04:53] <bazhang> level09: check for rootkits
[04:53] <jim> level09: let me just ask this before we get further... do you have stuff you want to keep on the machine you're being root on?
[04:53] <level09> I used a normal user , but I kept getting permission denied errors
[04:54] <Jordan_U> level09, That's where you use sudo
[04:54] <level09> jim: i dont know, I'm running a lamp server
[04:54] <jim> stated another way... what if the hd of that machine were wiped? would that be a disaster?
[04:54] <nikki8965> wireless works, and the live cd works
[04:54] <zero> hi, when i try to install C&C in cedega, it says i need administrator rights to install, im the ONLY user, how can i fix this?
[04:55] <level09> sure
[04:55] <jim> are you just fooling around with lamp? or is it a production box?
[04:55] <bazhang> zero sudo
[04:55] <izinucs> nikki8965, then you could put it directy on the HD if you want
[04:55] <level09> actually its a production box :D
[04:55] <nickrud> !sudo | zero (this describes getting the privs you need)
[04:55] <ubotu> zero (this describes getting the privs you need): sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[04:55] <zero> bazhang, how do i run sude in cedega?
[04:55] <zero> *sudo
[04:55] <nikki8965> I'll try that... thanks :)
[04:56] <cjzjm100> Does the server release have all functions of the desktop release?
[04:56] <nickrud> cjzjm100 no gui on the server, otherwise same base
[04:56] <TheOneAndOnly> zero, run sudo cedega - should clear things up
[04:56] <level09> okay then , I'll switch to my other user
[04:56] <zero> TheOneAndOnly, thanks
[04:56] <TheOneAndOnly> zero, np :]
[04:56] <Mighty_Penguin> does mplayer only play videos if xorg is installed?
[04:56] <Mighty_Penguin> in cli mode
[04:57] <bazhang> Mighty_Penguin: you want to watch movies in the shell?
[04:57] <level09> btw, wheres that file where I can enter command aliases ?
[04:57] <Mighty_Penguin> bazhang:  yes
[04:57] <bazhang> Mighty_Penguin: how?
[04:57] <Mighty_Penguin> framebuffer
[04:57] <Mighty_Penguin> the same way i can view images in cli mode
[04:58] <bazhang> does framebuffer allow one to play games as well?
[04:58] <Mighty_Penguin> zgv works great for images, but i havent found any way to watch videos, i've heard mplayer does but not sure how
[04:59] <TehMwak> How to fix discolouration with a radeon x2300 on Gutsy???
[04:59] <Mighty_Penguin> bazhang: that i dont know
[04:59] <zero> TheOneAndOnly, same problem, sudo cedega gave me the same issue
[04:59] <level09> is there any editor that supports syntax highlighting ?
[04:59] <zero> TheOneAndOnly, ive checked out all the forums, the game is supported under ubuntu
[04:59] <vadillo> level09: vim, gedit
[04:59] <Starnestommy> level09: vim and gvim do, and I think gedit and emacs also do
[05:00] <luciddream> hi, i'm trying to setup an svn server using the standalone svnserve daemon.  I think I may be misunderstanding how permissions work because I get permission denied errors even though I think I've assigned rw permissions to the svn user that the svn daemon runs as: http://pastie.caboo.se/175956  can someone take a look and tell me if i'm doing something dumb?
[05:00] <TheOneAndOnly> zero, if you run it from the terminal, do you get any other output from the terminal other than a permission problem? ie - maybe the file itself needs permissions changed?
[05:00] <level09> should I install them , or are they already in core ?
[05:00] <TheOneAndOnly> level09, gedit as well as abiword do, there are others for specific languages as well
[05:00] <Starnestommy> level09: you might need to install gvim or vim-full if you're using vim.  Gedit is already installed
[05:00] <TheOneAndOnly> level09, vim and gedit are in the base
[05:00] <TehMwak> gutsy - radeon discolouration problems. How does on fix them?
[05:00] <level09> great thanks :)
[05:01] <zero> TheOneAndOnly, /usr/lib/transgaming_cedega/gddb.py:24: RuntimeWarning: Python C API version mismatch for module gddb_parser: This Python has API version 1013, module gddb_parser has version 1012.
[05:01] <zero>   import gddb_parser
[05:01] <zero> Traceback (most recent call last):
[05:01] <zero>   File "/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega/Point2Play_gui.py", line 2750, in <module>
[05:01] <zero>     gtk.main()
[05:01] <bazhang> TehMwak: using compiz?
[05:01] <FloodBot2> zero: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:01] <zero> KeyboardInterrupt
[05:01] <jim> emacs uses a sortof weird system to display hiliting
[05:01] <TehMwak> Compiz wont start. but videos and pics are all discoloured. on all mediaplayers
[05:01] <bazhang> how were the drivers installed TehMwak
[05:02] <TehMwak> restricted drivers menu thing
[05:02] <jim> but it uses a very versatile and flexible data structure to store the total of the hiliting and indents for the language
[05:03] <zero> TheOneAndOnly, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62281/
[05:04] <TheOneAndOnly> zero, http://www.cedega.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=49709&sid=6684411e3ee5fc2a1306fbd4202aff99 - seems a lot of people have had this issue, idk if there is a fix posted in that forum though
[05:04] <TehMwak> bazhang: was done useing the restricted drivers menu.
[05:04] <SegFault[AX]> sorry I haven't got a GUI right now, can anyone tell me the channel for nmap?
[05:04] <DeVonne> where is the cdrom drive located?
[05:04] <jim> georgia
[05:05] <SegFault[AX]> DeVonne: /dev/cdrom
[05:05] <jim> oh -that- cdrom!
[05:05] <SegFault[AX]> DeVonne: any mounted cds will go to /media/cdrom
[05:05] <jim> sorry :)
[05:05] <bazhang> TehMwak: does the restricted driver support that ati card?
[05:05] <SegFault[AX]> well, pretty sure
[05:05] <DeVonne> I put in a game disc and neither one shows anything
[05:05] <TehMwak> bazhang : yes it does.
[05:05] <izinucs> SegFault[AX], irc.thelinuxshow.com #nmap
[05:06] <jim> so is it mounted? (look at output of mount)
[05:06] <TehMwak> bazhang :it says it does anyway?
[05:06] <SegFault[AX]> izinucs: thanks, damn i thought it was on freenode
[05:06] <TheOneAndOnly> TehMwak, enable the proposed updates, and do a system upgrade, i had that issue and that's how i fixed it
[05:06] <DeVonne> actually /dev/cdrom/ don't exist
[05:06] <SegFault[AX]> DeVonne: /dev/cdrom0 then
[05:06] <TehMwak> theoneandonly : thanks
[05:06] <TheOneAndOnly> TehMwak, np :]
[05:06] <DeVonne> there is no cdroms in dev
[05:07] <TheOneAndOnly> DeVonne, check /media or /mnt
[05:07] <DeVonne> there is cdrom and cdrom0 in media but the cd contents are not showing
[05:08] <michael__> ..
[05:08] <StPatrick> Ok, Ubuntu room. This is it.  I am ready to give up on linux. Unless someone has some ground breaking idea for my wifi. It's been ... fun...  i guess..
[05:08] <TheOneAndOnly> DeVonne, that means your cd is not automounting...
[05:08] <DeVonne> how do I fix this?
[05:08] <michael__> stpatrick whats up
[05:08] <TheOneAndOnly> StPatrick, what's happening w. your wifi?
[05:08] <vadillo> StPatrick : have you tried Ndiswrapper
[05:08] <vadillo> ?¡
[05:08] <StPatrick> vadillo, 7 or 8 times now.
[05:08] <[Rocc]> Im having the same prob Patrick...
[05:08] <icanhasadmin> StPatrick: what card?
[05:08] <michael__> stpatrick: no ndiswrapper what chipset is your wifi card
[05:09] <bazhang> StPatrick: how long have you been at this? two weeks or less than that
[05:09] <StPatrick> Wifi card is a Realtek RTL8187b
[05:09] <StPatrick> bazhang,  Today was Day 9, at at least 7 hours a day,.
[05:09] <DeVonne> how do I make my cd's auto mount?
[05:09] <vadillo> DeVonne: edit the fstab
[05:10] <TheOneAndOnly> DeVonne, is it a cd drive or a dvd/cd drive?
[05:10] <DeVonne> dvd/cd
[05:10] <michael__> rocc: what chpset is your card
[05:10] <TheOneAndOnly> DeVonne, check /dev for dvd
[05:10] <michael__> Stpaterick: do you have the driver for your card?
[05:10] <DeVonne> it is not in there
[05:11] <Bax_> ubuntu fiesty: how do I find a file a just downloaded and installed through Synaptic?
[05:11] <Bax_> *I
[05:11] <Mashandar> it doesn't look like there's a linux driver for RTL8187B yet
[05:11] <bazhang> Bax_: what file
[05:11] <Mashandar> there's a windows and mac driver...no linux driver
[05:11] <Bax_> bazhang: bittornado
[05:11] <StPatrick> For all those interested in trying to keep me in Linux, Here's a heads up on what's happened.  Toshiba A205-S5800. Realtek RTL8187b Wifi Card. Works fine in Vista. Mandriva, PCLinuxOS, Suse, all see card, but can't get it to work in them, Ubuntu ( currently running ) Doesnt even see card.
[05:11] <StPatrick> I have tried :
[05:12] <vadillo> StPatrick: check this one http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/wireless-internet/118266-realtek-rtl8187b-help.html
[05:12] <Dr_willis> Bax_,  'which bittorrnado' or whatever the command is to run it
[05:12] <michael__> Stpatrick: you have to help me help you buddy do you have the windows driver on hand?
[05:12] <StPatrick> ndiswrapper with about 30 different drivers, compiling drivers, using hacked drivers,  ^ That link, Several other links, 10 - 15 different walk-throughs.
[05:12] <StPatrick> michael__,  I do not., I just finished formatting again
[05:12] <Bax_> Dr_willis: I can literally type that in the terminal?
[05:12] <bazhang> Bax_: bittornado is in the ubuntu repos?
[05:12] <TehMwak> ... stpatrick : get a cheep supported wifi card. Problem solved!
[05:12] <StPatrick> TehMwak,  That is nto an option.
[05:12] <jim> StPatrick: I'm more interested in having you choose what you want to run. If you're not willing to do that, you're not committing, and I expect more miracle requests from you as a result
[05:13] <michael__> Stpatrick i went through the same thing i have a card that uses the bcm43xx and unsupported driver
[05:13] <bazhang> !info bittornado
[05:13] <Dr_willis> Bax_,  bash basics.. the which command shows the full path to the command you are running/asking about.
[05:13] <ubotu> bittornado (source: bittornado): bittorrent client with enhanced curses interface. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.18-4 (gutsy), package size 155 kB, installed size 876 kB
[05:13] <Dr_willis> Bax_,  try 'which which' :)
[05:13] <StPatrick> jim,  I prefer Mandriva.
[05:13] <jim> use that :)
[05:13] <StPatrick> jim,   Cant get any support
[05:13] <michael__> Stpatrick:whats the name of the driver your card uses?
[05:13] <SegFault[AX]> izinucs: irssi says it cant' connect to irc.thelinuxshow.org on 6667,  is it on a different port?
[05:13] <StPatrick> michael__,  I have no idea. Drivers have names?
[05:13] <Dr_willis> Bax_,  now if you want to know where in the menus that icon went.. no idea on that.
[05:13] <Shpook> Hello everyone, quick question: How do I get the Home Folder onto the desktop?
[05:13] <Bax_> Dr_willis: but I don't know what the command is for bittornado, I just know that it was the name of the program I downloaded and installed through synaptic
[05:14] <StPatrick> michael__,  The difference between you going through it, and me, is that I am not a computer guy.l
[05:14] <vadillo> StPatrick: also this one--> http://www.datanorth.net/~cuervo/rtl8187b/
[05:14] <StPatrick> michael__,  I do not know much about computers, at all.
[05:14] <Dr_willis> Bax_,  try 'bittornado' ? thats the most logical command for it.
[05:14] <StPatrick> vadillo,  Yea, that one's fun...
[05:14] <michael__> Stpatrick: yes like the name of mine is bcmwl5.sys (im not either i came into this not knowing anything) so im gonna help you out
[05:14] <Shpook> Oops, on KDE I mean.
[05:14] <SegFault[AX]> Shpook: ln -s $HOME $HOME/Desktop/Home
[05:14] <StPatrick> michael__,  Ok :) I'm glad to hear it.
[05:14] <michael__> Stpatrick: so we have to find the driver for your card eh
[05:14] <StPatrick> michael__,  Care to meet m e in a different channel?
[05:14] <vadillo> StPatrick what did you mean with fun?
[05:14] <StPatrick> say.. #HelpStPat?
[05:15] <michael__> Stpatrick: sure just lemme know the name buddy
[05:15] <Bax_> Dr_willis: I did, with just the name, with ./, and with "which".  Still got nothing
[05:15] <StPatrick> vadillo,  I mean i did it.
[05:15] <hansin> Should I be using 'aptitude' vs. 'apt-get'?  I am trying to get in the habit of switching to it.  I keep seeing 'aptitude' is the way to go, but maybe this is a personal preference thing?  I like to install Ubuntu as the Minimal CLI install from the alternative CD.  Does anyone know if the installer uses 'aptitude' or 'apt-get', or is it lower level than that (dpkg?)?  Thanks.
[05:15] <Dmole> Bax_: bittornado works but try transmition (gui) or rtorrent (cli)
[05:15] <level09> is it bad also to use sftp as a root ?
[05:15] <Shpook> SegFault[AX]: Thank, that worked perfect.
[05:15] <jim> maybe
[05:15] <Bax_> Dmole: I
[05:15] <Shpook> Thanks*
[05:16] <vadillo> StPatrick: also the other one link
[05:16] <TheOneAndOnly> level09, only if you don't care about your system's security :p
[05:16] <SegFault[AX]> Shpook: no problem
[05:16] <level09> TheOneAndOnly: I cant upload files with a regular user, theres no permissions
[05:16] <Bax_> Dmole: I'm just trying to figure out how to find and access programs I just downloaded through synaptic, like bittorando
[05:16] <Dr_willis> !find bittornado
[05:16] <ubotu> Found: bittornado, bittornado-gui
[05:16] <Hellow> Hello
[05:16] <Alan_M> hansin, it has both on it.....and yes its personal preference honestly.
[05:16] <level09> I'm using filezilla
[05:16] <ifireball> Bax_: you probably want "btdownloadgui"
[05:17] <ifireball> Bax_: type bt<tab> to see other commands installed by bittornado
[05:17] <Dmole> Bax_: that will be in the menu under internet
[05:17] <michael__> Stpatrick: the way i did mine was quite simple actually all we have to do is find something to extract the firmware from your driver and well put it in the correct spots reboot and bam youl be good
[05:17] <TheOneAndOnly> level09, hm, you should go in and set the file permissions as root, and then use sftp as a regular user
[05:17] <DeVonne> I still can't find or see my dvd/cd drive
[05:17] <Dmole> Bax_: and like ifireball said ta is your frend
[05:17] <amirman84> what language do people use to write programs and GUIs for ubuntu? i may want to take a class on it
[05:17] <level09> TheOneAndOnly: okay thnx
[05:17] <ifireball> Bax_: to see all the files installed by a package "dpkg -L bittornado"
[05:17] <TheOneAndOnly> DeVonne, do you know what type of hardware you cd/dvd drive is?
[05:18] <amirman84> all i know is BASIC :)
[05:18] <DeVonne> it came with the emachine so I do not know
[05:18] <Alan_M> amirman84: there are multiple languages that help out in that area :)
[05:18] <ifireball> Bax_: (though the list of file may not provide much info as to how to use it)
[05:18] <TheOneAndOnly> amirman84, C#, and C++, Python, and Perl...
[05:18] <Starnestommy> amirman84: there are several languages that can do that. C, C++, Java, Perl, Python, Ruby, PHP, and a lot of others
[05:18] <TheOneAndOnly> amirman84, we use them all
[05:18] <Dr_willis> Bax_,  aparanty its 'bt<SOMTHING>'
[05:18] <TheOneAndOnly> Starnestommy, PHP and Ruby can be used, but they are mostly for web development.
[05:18] <Dr_willis> Bax_,  /usr/bin/btdownloadgui.bittornado
[05:19] <Bax_> ifireball: so btdownloadgui is a general command to fetch programs I just downloaded?
[05:19] <StPatrick> michael__,  Sounds good to me man. Come to #HelpStPat?
[05:19] <thundr2> TheOneAndOnly: Is there a language that is used the most commonly?
[05:19] <amirman84> ok, i was just wondering because i see that there's a niche to be filled most specifically apps for young kids
[05:19] <hansin> Alan_M: Thanks.  I know the minimal CLI install include both, but do you have any idea what the text-based installer uses?  Just curious.  Like I said, maybe it is lower level than either 'apt-get' or 'aptitude'??
[05:19] <DeVonne> ok I have found it
[05:19] <ifireball> Bax_: no that's the command installed by the bittornado package
[05:19] <DeVonne> http://www.impactcomputers.com/dvem100686rw.html
[05:19] <TheOneAndOnly> thundr2, the kernel is in C#, but C++ is used commonly for apps. Python for gui apps is very common :]
[05:19] <amirman84> my son is 2 1/2 and i was looking for some packages that could help him learn to use the mouse and stuff all i found was kletters and tuxpaint
[05:19] <DeVonne> this is the hardware
[05:20] <michael__> stpatrick: ok im in there
[05:20] <thundr2> TheOneAndOnly: Thanks :)
[05:20] <amirman84> what language would be best for simple apps like that?
[05:20] <StPatrick> michael__,  Uhh  How? So am i... lol
[05:20] <TheOneAndOnly> thundr2, np :]
[05:20] <Alan_M> hansin, no idea exactly what it uses, most probably apt-get because thats what we tell users in here to use, from what ive seen its the more common one in here :D
[05:20] <Dr_willis> amirman84,  python is handy.
[05:20] <DeVonne> TheOneAndOnly: , http://www.impactcomputers.com/dvem100686rw.html
[05:20] <TheOneAndOnly> amirman84, i'd go with python
[05:20] <TheOneAndOnly> DeVonne, i saw the link, ty :] i'm reading it now
[05:20] <Alan_M> python :D
[05:20] <DeVonne> ok thanks
[05:21] <amirman84> awesome i hope my college has a class on it
[05:21] <Alan_M> amirman84, and if not there are PLENTY of guides online for it.
[05:21] <TheOneAndOnly> amirman84, most colleges, even community, have some class for Python, but it will include other langs as well
[05:21] <level09> making a directory writable by a webserver, does this mean 755 or 777?
[05:21] <steven__> I am using the Darklooks theme for Gnome and now Firefox is displaying Text Boxes with dark colored background. Does anyone know how to change this?
[05:21] <Dr_willis> level09,  both are a little overkill.
[05:22] <level09> what do u suggest :) ?
[05:22] <Dr_willis> level09,  the dir  could just be owned by the webserver, and you wouldent need those modes
[05:22] <dibblego> how can I run a script on login?
[05:22] <passbe> does anyone else have problems extracting a multiple part rar file ?
[05:22] <TheOneAndOnly> level09, 777 will give everyone read write access, 755 will give owner read write, everyone else read only
[05:22] <Dr_willis> dibblego,  depends on the window manager. Kde has .kde/Autostart Directory. Gnome has the session management features
[05:22] <hansin> Alan_M: Thanks for the help/info.
[05:22] <vadillo> dibblego: what distro are you are using?
[05:22] <dibblego> Dr_willis, I am using GNOME
[05:22] <zm> i ask a question
[05:22] <Dr_willis> dibblego,  what program anyway?
[05:22] <level09> how do I make it owned by webserver ?
[05:22] <Hellow> dibleggo, go to System - Preferences - Sessons for gnome
[05:23] <Alan_M> hansin, its what were here for :)
[05:23] <dibblego> Dr_willis, mozilla lightning
[05:23] <dibblego> Hellow, great thanks
[05:23] <thundr2> amirman84: I can't vouch for the quality because I haven't read it, but this might be a good starting point for learning Python: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Python
[05:23] <TheOneAndOnly> everyone, it's nice to see everyone getting so much help tonight :]
[05:23] <Dr_willis> dibblego,  start the program, save the session. it should autostart i think.
[05:23] <zm> why can't firefox install the flash player plugin?
[05:23] <TheOneAndOnly> thundr2, that is actually an excellent link, it's where i began
[05:23] <Dr_willis> zm,  because one normally installs flash from the package maanger tool.
[05:23] <Alan_M> Theoneandonly, yeah awesome when there arent fights :)
[05:23] <Dr_willis> !flash | zm
[05:23] <ubotu> zm: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[05:23] <vadillo> zm: 32 or 64 system?
[05:24] <TheOneAndOnly> Alan_M, haha, not even fights, it's nice to see that no one is flooding the room w. the same question this evening - lol
[05:24] <zm> sudo apt-get install flash ?
[05:24] <Alan_M> lol true as well TheOneAndOnly
[05:24] <Starnestommy> zm: try this: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[05:24] <Yowshi> how do i undelete something from the trash? i am not sure what duir these files came from but i didnt want to delete them
[05:24] <TheOneAndOnly> zm, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[05:24] <zm> yeah
[05:24] <pen> TheOneAndOnly: just use add/remove
[05:25] <pen> TheOneAndOnly: it's so  much easier
[05:25] <TheOneAndOnly> pen, that too :]
[05:25] <Mannex> I am using the Darklooks theme for Gnome and now Firefox is displaying Text Boxes with dark colored background. Does anyone know how to change this?
[05:25] <Hellow> Yowshi: have you already deleted it or is it just in the trash?
[05:25] <michael__> anyone else having wireless troubles?
[05:25] <Yowshi> just in the trash Hellow
[05:25] <TheOneAndOnly> Mannex, go into the appearance settings, and change the colors for your theme, should correct the issue, but will change the colors for everything else accordingly
[05:26] <amirman84> michael_ : i've been there with wireless troubles
[05:26] <Hellow> Yowshi: hold on
[05:26] <michael__> yeah im trying to help some people out
[05:26] <michael__> it was a complete hassle to get mine working
[05:26] <zm> must i quit firefox first?
[05:26] <TheOneAndOnly> zm, no, but you need to restart after the install
[05:26] <Hellow> Yowshi: right click and press "Restore"
[05:26] <Starnestommy> zm: that would be a good idea
[05:27] <zm> ok```now im installing
[05:27] <zm> thank you
[05:27] <DeVonne> TheOneAndOnly: have you read it? :)
[05:27] <Yowshi> Hellow there is no restore button
[05:27] <TheOneAndOnly> DeVonne, yeah, sorry.
[05:27] <Hellow> Yowshi: hold on
[05:27] <amirman84> michael_ : i just ended up using vmware workstation to install ubuntu on a vm so i could use the bridged networking
[05:27] <michael__> amirman81: what chipset is your card??
[05:27] <icesword> no brige,use nat
[05:27] <icesword> then you get online
[05:27] <amirman84> but i would like to eventually install it on a dedicated partition so i'll have to figure out the wireless stuff eventually
[05:28] <amirman84> michael_: i believe it's broadcom
[05:28] <amirman84> i use the dell drivers on my windows machine
[05:28] <DeVonne> TheOneAndOnly: do you know what is wrong?
[05:28] <thundr2> Yowshi: You should be able to just drag and drop the files to whichever folder you want them in.
[05:28] <TheOneAndOnly> DeVonne, i'm checking into it...
[05:28] <michael__> amirman84: no shit garuntee i get it working in less than 20 min
[05:28] <TheOneAndOnly> google's not turning up much...
[05:28] <DeVonne> ok thank you
[05:28] <Yowshi> thundr2: i dont recall where they came from
[05:28] <amirman84> really?
[05:29] <michael__> amirman84: your using the bcm43xx driver in ubuntu right?
[05:29] <Yowshi> thundr2: i was cleaning out some rythm box list and clicked move to trash instead of remove
[05:29] <Mannex> TheOneAndOnly, thank you
[05:29] <amirman84> i think that's the one it installed when i was using linux mint so probably
[05:29] <Hellow> Yowshi: idk, im going to make a suggestion that they include a "Restore" function in the next release of Ubuntu
[05:29] <amirman84> it doesnt work at all though
[05:29] <michael__> amirman84: i use a broadcom card myself =P i have a way that worked for me if you wanna try it out ??
[05:29] <TheOneAndOnly> Mannex, for what exactly? heh
[05:29] <michael__> amirman84: mine didnt either
[05:29] <amirman84> well i could do it right now since i'm on a vm
[05:30] <Mannex> TheOneAndOnly, lol your suggestion regarding a previous question... nVm ;-)
[05:30] <thundr2> Yowshi: It probably came from your Home directory.  Under a directory like /.rhythmbox
[05:30] <amirman84> but i would love to know how to do it
[05:30] <TheOneAndOnly> Mannex, as long as your issue got resolved, i'm happy i could help :]
[05:30] <amirman84> do you use NDISwrapper?
[05:30] <pierrelux> bazhang: just to tell you it worked with hardy. i don't know what was wrong. maybe a wrong partitioning
[05:30] <ntorido> How can i make a back up in ubuntu?
[05:30] <michael__> amirman84: allright lemme see if i can find the link if not you wouldnt mind if i sent you some things would you ?
[05:30] <amirman84> not at all
[05:30] <Yowshi> thundr2: no i told it to import the entire home folder i thought it would only import sound files but it seems not
[05:30] <Bax_> in the terminal, after executing something and nothing happens, How do I exit or get that program to quit so I can return to the command line?
[05:31] <amirman84> how would you send it?
[05:31] <Starnestommy> Bax_: Ctrl+C
[05:31] <TheOneAndOnly> ntorido, a back up of what exactly?
[05:31] <michael__> amirman84: ok because i have saved to a folder for when i update but i think it should work for you do you have a copy of your driver?
[05:31] <ntorido> A folder
[05:31] <michael__> amirman84: like this
[05:32] <amirman84> the windows driver?
[05:32] <TheOneAndOnly> DeVonne, i'm not seeing much on google... sry =/
[05:32] <michael__> amirman84: yes
[05:32] <amirman84> forgive my noobiness
[05:32] <ntorido> TheOneAndOnly,A folder.
[05:32] <DeVonne> ok :( thanks anyways
[05:32] <amirman84> i can get a copy really quick from the dell website but it's a dell driver
[05:32] <TheOneAndOnly> ntorido, i'd say archive it using bzip...
[05:32] <amirman84> it's branded with dell's name so i guess they made their own driver for the card
[05:32] <thundr2> Yowshi: There should be a way to find out where it came from, perhaps by changing the view of the trash folder.  I don't have Ubuntu running right now, so I can only be of limited help, sorry.
[05:32] <michael__> amirman84: hey im a newb to wanna go to a seperate channel or do you mind if i message you pruvatley
[05:32] <Bax_> so let me get this straight, everything in the /usr/bin are all the commands I can use in any other directory, right?
[05:33] <amirman84> go ahead and private message me
[05:33] <Starnestommy> Bax_: yes, the same goes for /bin, /sbin, /usr/sbin, /usr/local/bin/, and /usr/local/sbin/
[05:33] <[Rocc]> need help
[05:34] <Bax_> Starnestommy: what's the difference between each of those directories?  commands are more special?
[05:34] <thundr2> [Rocc]: What is your problem?
[05:34] <[Rocc]> Wireless wont work...
[05:34] <gliss> need beer
[05:34] <CaptainMorgan> can someone tell me real quick if Hardy will be an LTS version ?
[05:34] <TheOneAndOnly> ntorido, run sudo apt-get install bzip2 to make sure bzip is installed then run man bzip2, that should help you out :]
[05:34] <CaptainMorgan> !LTS
[05:34] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[05:34] <cewe> SIAPA NAMAMU
[05:34] <TheOneAndOnly> CaptainMorgan, yes, hardy is LTS
[05:35] <level09> how do I install pear ?
[05:35] <CaptainMorgan> TheOneAndOnly, that's great... looking forward to its release.. ;)
[05:35] <CaptainMorgan> thanks
[05:35] <TheOneAndOnly> CaptainMorgan, it's pretty stable now, for a beta, but yes, the final release should be great
[05:35] <morphir_> does jeos come with xorg?
[05:35] <cewe> YOU IS NAME
[05:35] <[Rocc]> ummm
[05:35] <TheOneAndOnly> morphir_, no, jeos, is basically a server install
[05:35] <cewe> ]]]
[05:36] <morphir_> TheOneAndOnly: k
[05:36] <TheOneAndOnly> morphir_, it stands for just enough operating system
[05:36] <morphir_> yup
[05:36] <[Rocc]> I need help on wireless, it wont connect no matter what i do, I know i have Linksys
[05:36] <DeVonne> TheOneAndOnly: I found the cdrom drive in place -> computer and when I goto open it it says no media, althou the disc is in the drive
[05:36] <morphir_> TheOneAndOnly: I just had to confirm :)
[05:36] <gogeta> hey guys im stuck in the darkages of internet
[05:36] <Dmole> anyone know how to copy a file from one ubuntu to another with rate limiting and resume?
[05:36] <TheOneAndOnly> DeVonne, eject the disc and place it back in, see if it will read it then.
[05:37] <DeVonne> I did it still will not read
[05:37] <gogeta> does ubuntu save softmodem suppport
[05:37] <gogeta> have
[05:37] <gliss> whats the best way to get java 1.6 on ubuntu?
[05:37] <amirman84> michael_: did you get my PM?
[05:37] <dibblego> I added an executable to the GNOME session startup programs and now the login session hangs; perhaps I should use & on the executable, but how do I revert it now?
[05:37] <gliss> right now ive got 1.4.2 or something
[05:37] <gliss> and i don't see any 1.6 packages
[05:37] <TheOneAndOnly> gogeta, http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+softmodem+support&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
[05:37] <gogeta> gliss probly next ubuntu relese
[05:38] <DeVonne> TheOneAndOnly:  ejecting and reinsterting does nor work
[05:38] <gogeta> yea i wouldent ask if that led to any answers
[05:38] <[Rocc]> [Rocc]: still needs help :P
[05:38] <dhee^^> iooiuouioui
[05:38] <dhee^^> hai,,,
[05:39] <[Rocc]> hi
[05:39] <TheOneAndOnly> DeVonne, hm... run dmsg after you insert and remove it, see if there is any info in there concerning the disc drive
[05:39] <jim> jim: is [Rocc] talkin to himslf?
[05:39] <Dmole> gliss: java.sun.com
[05:39] <gogeta> mo[e
[05:39] <gogeta> nope
[05:39] <thundr2> [Rocc]: Please be patient.  I don't have any experience with configuring wireless, or I'd help you.  But there are hundreds of other people in the room as well.  We'll get to your question as soon as possible.
[05:39] <DeVonne> -bash: dmsg: command not found
[05:40] <gogeta> connect cxt not workin
[05:40] <bastid_raZor> DeVonne; dmesg
[05:40] <TheOneAndOnly> DeVonne, type-o sorry, dmesg
[05:42] <DeVonne> [   30.407252] Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
[05:42] <DeVonne> is this it?
[05:42] <TheOneAndOnly> DeVonne, that looks like it'd be it, so ubuntu recognizes your cd drive
[05:42] <TheOneAndOnly> DeVonne, can you put in a disc which you know for sure works under windows?
[05:42] <Gnea> ok, i just had something weird happen - i had my desktop in the locked-phase with the screensaver on. when i sat back down to unlock it, it *looked* like the screensaver crashed and i was presented with the standard login screen (as if to denote switching users, since i could still hear xmms pumping tunes through the speakers). upon being presented with the gnome-ish desktop, i found that my mouse cursor no longer appears over firefox o
[05:42] <[Rocc]> Thundr2: yessir!
[05:42] <gogeta> LOL i found a driver man i lucked out
[05:42] <gogeta> i have a lin modem
[05:42] <DeVonne> [   30.407243] hdc: ATAPI 48X DVD-ROM DVD-R CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, UDMA(33)
[05:43] <DeVonne> this one does work under windows, it is a sims 2 disc
[05:43] <Gnea> Has anyone seen this before or know if there's a fix for it other than logging out, restarting X and logging back in?
[05:43] <TheOneAndOnly> Gnea, try ctrl+alt+f7, to switch to the default display
[05:43] <TheOneAndOnly> DeVonne, at this point, i'm at a total loss :/
[05:44] <DeVonne> well this sucks
[05:44] <Gnea> TheOneAndOnly: *headdesk!* thank you :)
[05:45] <TheOneAndOnly> DeVonne, there may be someone else in the room capable of helping you out more
[05:45] <TheOneAndOnly> Gnea, np :]
[05:45] <Gnea> it was actually already on tty7 so i switched it to tty8 and back, problem solved
[05:45] <gogeta> wtf im not paying thwm for a driver
[05:45] <gogeta> http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hsf/full/downloads-ubuntu-x86.php
[05:45] <TheOneAndOnly> Gnea, haha, awesome :]
[05:45] <DeVonne> if anyone knows why the cdrom says it cant find the media of a disc please help me
[05:47] <Angry_Bacon> Any1 know why I would be getting signal loss with a 8800gt when trying to use nVidia 169.12?
[05:47] <[Rocc]> If anyone can help me with wireless please goto #helprocc
[05:48] <Zelta> [Rocc]: I think you may have better luck if you just ask your question in here.
[05:48] <[Rocc]> I have
[05:48] <[Rocc]> I need help on wireless, it wont connect no matter what i do, I know i have Linksys
[05:48] <Zelta> What model, in particular?
[05:49] <[Rocc]> Um
[05:49] <[Rocc]> lemme go look
[05:49] <[Rocc]> brb
[05:49] <michael__> this is pretty sweet everyone told me wine lagged badly im getting no lag at all
[05:49] <Angry_Bacon> I feel ignored, lol, he doesn't even ask his question
[05:49] <DeVonne> lol
[05:50] <Dmole> help: anyone know how to copy a file from one ubuntu to another with rate limiting and resume?
[05:50] <Dmole> other than winscp on wine
[05:50] <TheOneAndOnly> Dmole, i'd assume rsync would do it...
[05:50] <XceII> why cant I (when shutting down) hear the sound?
[05:51] <izinucs> Dmole, how bout just scp
[05:51] <Gnea> Dmole: wget
[05:51] <Angry_Bacon> Does anyone know how to get an 8800gt working?
[05:51] <Dmole> TheOneAndOnly: not that i can find in the man file
[05:51] <Dmole> izinucs: not that i can find in the man file
[05:52] <TheOneAndOnly> rsync is not installed by default
[05:52] <Angry_Bacon> None of the forum guides work
[05:52] <Angry_Bacon> Dmole: you could make a torrent
[05:52] <TheOneAndOnly> Dmole, run sudo apt-get install rsync
[05:52] <TheOneAndOnly> then man rsync
[05:52] <[Rocc]> Wireless-G broadband router with speedboost 802.11g
[05:52] <[Rocc]> :|
[05:52] <Dmole> i have rsync
[05:52] <TheOneAndOnly> Dmole, rebuild your man pages index
[05:52] <michael__> [rocc] : i think i seen something that may help you
[05:52] <Dmole> i just can't find rate limiting and resume
[05:52] <thundr2> [Rocc]: What about your wireless card?
[05:53] <[Rocc]> its built into the hp pavilion 700
[05:53] <TheOneAndOnly> Dmole, i know wget supports resume, i'm not sure about rate limiting
[05:53] <amirman84> has anybody in here had success getting the ATI mobility radeon x1400 to work in ubuntu, and by work i mean 3D support
[05:53] <TheOneAndOnly> Dmole, i'd go with Angry_Bacon's option of making it a torrent
[05:54] <TheOneAndOnly> amirman84, i'm using that exact card, but the mobile version
[05:54] <Dmole> izinucs: scp has no rate limiting or resume that i see
[05:54] <donkey7186> question. i am trying to find a plugin for rhythmbox so i can play a certain radio station on it how do i find out which i need!??
[05:55] <amirman84> theoneandonly: i'm using the mobile version too, do you have 3D working?
[05:55] <sorry> Im the type of person that brings a weapon to a party if im planning on fighting. I fight to win no matter what it takes.Im not afraid to yell that's my purse, i don't know you. Im NOT afraid to kick someone as hard as i can in the nuts, FROM BEHIND. Yah thats right. I would cheap shot the fuck out of any of you mother fuckers and then id stomp on your face while you were on the ground crying like a bitch.
[05:55] <izinucs> Dmole, just  out of curiosity.. why is rate limiting and/or resume needed
[05:55] <TheOneAndOnly> amirman84, yes i do, what version of ubuntu are you running
[05:55] <jim> sorry: so this is your victim story?
[05:55] <michael__> Damn sorry thats some fucked up shit
[05:55] <TheOneAndOnly> sorry, that has what to do with ubuntu exactly?
[05:55] <izinucs> !ops | sorry
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[05:56] <nickrud> !language | michael__
[05:56] <ubotu> michael__: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[05:56] <michael__> sorry sorry
[05:56] <sorry> it relates to ubuntu
[05:56] <amirman84> theoneandonly: do you mind if i PM you?
[05:56] <kindofabuzz> sorry: i hope you don't have kids
[05:56] <TheOneAndOnly> not at all amirman84
[05:56] <Dmole> Gnea: thank you wget was a good call
[05:56] <RedScare> anyone know anything about cpu frequency scaling?
[05:57] <donkey7186> question. i am trying to find a plugin for rhythmbox so i can play a certain radio station on it how do i find out which i need!??
[05:58] <Dmole> izinucs:  I don't have QOS set up yet and it's a transfer that will take days so resume is likely needed but wget fills my need :) just did not come to mind untill Gnea said it
[05:58] <sjovan> donkey7186: this is a long shot (couse i don't know my self), but have you tryed apt-cache search rhythmbox | grep plugin ?
[05:58] <RedScare> why does powernowd refuse to scale my core 2 duo below 1GHz
[05:59] <donkey7186> nope
[05:59] <Delson> hello
[05:59] <TheOneAndOnly> RedScare, that's the lowest freq those procs will go, i run one myself :]
[05:59] <Delson> can somone help me with something
[05:59] <Delson> it might be a simple thing to eetup
[05:59] <donkey7186> sjovan no i havent
[06:00] <RedScare> TheOneAndOnly, that is what it is looking like
[06:00] <sjovan> donkey7186: nwm... apt-get doesn't have any plugins for that prog
[06:00] <donkey7186> oh
[06:00] <RedScare> I'm trying to discover why ubuntu runs hotter than my dual boot OS vista
[06:00] <Delson> can somone help me with something
[06:00] <Delson> ?
[06:01] <gogeta> RedScare acpi probly runs the fans slower
[06:01] <AngryBacon> Delson: Rule number X of irc, don't ask to ask, just ask
[06:01] <RedScare> i get more noise typically as well though gogeta
[06:01] <RedScare> its very odd
[06:01] <Zelta> Do you guys mind if I ask a question about asking a question about an issue I'm having regarding the asking of questions?
[06:01] <TheOneAndOnly> RedScare, that's exactly it. that is the lowest freq these processors will run at, any lower (you could hack around it) and you would notice major system issues
[06:01] <gogeta> RedScare naa its turning em up then back down
[06:02] <RedScare> from what little I've read 8.04 beta has better power management
[06:02] <TheOneAndOnly> RedScare, that noise you hear is the fan kicking on, there are ways to get them to not kick on until certain temps though
[06:02] <Delson> well u know how windows has like a grid so to speak for desktop icons....can i get ubuntu to have a more organized grid
[06:02] <Delson> and iwanna make all the icons smaller
[06:02] <thundr2> RedScare: Is the CPU load similar between Ubuntu and Vista?
[06:03] <gogeta> TheOneAndOnly he can kill acpi and let the bios handel it or just let em run at 100%
[06:03] <bobc> I'm trying to install a new hard drive in my system which will replace my existing drive and I'm having a problem with installing grub. grub-install /dev/sdb returns /dev/evms/hda1 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive. Can anyone help me make sense of this?
[06:03] <[Rocc]> Um, did i get a answer, sorry ive been eating
[06:03] <AngryBacon> [Rocc]: scroll up
[06:03] <izinucs> thundr2, no Vista is much hungrier
[06:03] <RedScare> CPU load is similar
[06:03] <sjovan> donkey7186: btw... you don't need a plugin. you can add radiostations by default. or are you thinking about picking up signals from the air?
[06:03] <DeVonne> Does anyone know why when I put in a cd it can't read it? says there is no media
[06:03] <gogeta> RedScare yea its just your fans running diffrently
[06:04] <donkey7186> sjovan im trying to add a radio station. but when i try and add it it isnt working
[06:04] <gogeta> RedScare as long as its not hitting danger levels i wouldent worry
[06:04] <hellonull> delson: i'm pretty sure it is more of a matter of configuring your desktop environment, not necessarily ubuntu
[06:04] <RedScare> I'm not too worried about the heat
[06:04] <sjovan> donkey7186: so, do you get some kinde of error?
[06:04] <RedScare> its simply that I bought this because it ran sooo cool in my lap
[06:04] <TheOneAndOnly> RedScare, if you're on battery power, you can run powertop to increase batter life
[06:04] <donkey7186> sjovanyea says that its not supported and a plugin may need to be installed
[06:04] <RedScare> as opposed to my AMD X2 64
[06:04] <pen> TheOneAndOnly: I don't see the difference?
[06:04] <donkey7186> sjovan yea says that its not supported and a plugin may need to be installed
[06:05] <pen> TheOneAndOnly: I ran and press the button it ask to press
[06:05] <RedScare> which often leaves burnmarks on my leg
[06:05] <gogeta> RedScare oh battery power yea ubuntu will keep those fans as low as possable
[06:05] <pen> TheOneAndOnly: no increase in power
[06:05] <DeVonne> Does anyone know why when I put in a cd it can't read it? says there is no media
[06:05] <gogeta> RedScare hence more heat
[06:05] <thundr2> Delson: I know that the icons (on the desktop at least) are able to be stretched and zoomed to whatever size you want, or do you want all icons throughout Ubuntu to look like that?
[06:05] <pen> DeVonne: what ? Audio CD?
[06:05] <DeVonne> game cd
[06:05] <hellonull> DeVonne: have you tried manually mounting it?
[06:05] <gogeta> RedScare you can adjust the settings if you wish
[06:05] <RedScare> I have
[06:05] <kenboo> Is there mips cross compiler for i386?
[06:06] <DeVonne> how do I go about doing that?
[06:06] <RedScare> I just wanted to see if anyone had had any luck with custom settings
[06:06] <sjovan> donkey7186: wierd... i can't remember installing any plugins. maby a simple google would help you
[06:06] <donkey7186> well if i give you the website can you try?
[06:06] <kenboo> someone compiled for Debian but couldn't find it for Ubuntu
[06:06] <gogeta> RedScare set the temp thresh hold lower so the fans will cool it more
[06:06] <Delson> i want all the icons to be niform
[06:06] <DeVonne> how do I manually mount it?
[06:06] <Delson> uniform
[06:06] <gogeta> RedScare but you lose battery life
[06:06] <AngryBacon> wouldn't the debian one work?
[06:07] <RedScare> doesn't make sense why there's not a closer solution
[06:07] <RedScare> on my HP my battery with vista runs around 1.45, on my gateway with core 2 on vista I get up to 3.5 hours very easily
[06:07] <TheOneAndOnly> pen, it will usually give you a small amount more, some systems it won't... mine it gave me 30 more mins
[06:07] <RedScare> on ubuntu 2 if I'm lucky
[06:07] <thundr2> Delson: To do that on the desktop, you just right click the icon and go to stretch icon.  To do that for all of them, one second I'm checking
[06:07] <gogeta> RedScare well you can turn off acpi but then they will run at 100% all the time prosser and fans
[06:08] <gogeta> RedScare you willlose alot of batery power
[06:08] <TheOneAndOnly> pen, you would also need to run it as sudo
[06:08] <monkeyBox> Is powernowd preferred over cpufreq, or vice-versa?
[06:08] <donkey7186> sjovan well if i give you the website can you try?
[06:09] <RedScare> cpufreqd?
[06:09] <pen> TheOneAndOnly: I did
[06:09] <sjovan> donkey7186: shure thing
[06:09] <sjovan> donkey7186: what's the url
[06:09] <RedScare> as far as I can tell, powernowd, and cpufreqd were both designed for AMD primarily
[06:09] <sjovan> ?
[06:09] <donkey7186> sjovan :     wildmorningshow.com
[06:09] <pen> TheOneAndOnly: how long does it take effect?
[06:09] <TheOneAndOnly> pen, wow, and it gave you no increase at all?
[06:09] <gogeta> RedScare laptop systems have scaling prossers in speed wise its a power saving feature
[06:09] <TheOneAndOnly> mine took about 5 seconds, til the next refresh
[06:09] <pen> TheOneAndOnly: I don't see any increase
[06:10] <sjovan> C
[06:10] <donkey7186> sjovan    http://www.wild955.com/cc-common/ondemand/player.html?world=st
[06:10] <sjovan> ooppps
[06:10] <RedScare> you know what is amazing though, rdesktop
[06:10] <donkey7186> sjovan referring url is: http://www.wild955.com/pages/streaming.html
[06:10] <fr500> hello
[06:10] <hellonull> DeVonne: open console, mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom0 /cdrom
[06:11] <hellonull> DeVonne: you may have to use something other than cdrom0
[06:11] <thundr2> Delson: It's in the preferences somewhere, I'm still looking
[06:11] <DeVonne> ok will try that
[06:11] <Delson> ok
[06:11] <DeVonne> mount: special device /dev/cdrom0 does not exist
[06:11] <sjovan> donkey7186: what the hell? "We thank you for your interest in seeing and hearing all we have to offer!  Your request has been received.  Please allow up to 60 hours for processing"
[06:12] <donkey7186> sjovan did you go to the right url???
[06:12] <hellonull> DeVonne: look in /dev and see which folder there is likely to be your optical drive
[06:12] <donkey7186> sjovan    http://www.wild955.com/cc-common/ondemand/player.html?world=st
[06:12] <pen> DeVonne: I think maybe linux doesn't detect your CDRom
[06:12] <DeVonne> it does my mom burned dvd's with it
[06:12] <pen> DeVonne: type this into terminal: more /etc/fstab
[06:12] <AngryBacon> Does anyone know how to get a 8800gt working?
[06:13] <thundr2> Delson: To get the icons smaller in Nautilus (the file browser), just click the zoom out button at the top.  Working on the grid and a better solution now
[06:13] <sjovan> donkey7186: sorry mate... i can't help you. i tryed to lie :) "Due to licensing restrictions, we are not able to allow access to the content you are requesting from outside the United States. We are sorry we can no longer provide access to Canada. If you currently reside in the United States, please select one of the options below to process your request. Please allow up to 60 hours to process your request."
[06:13] <DeVonne>  /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec 0       0
[06:13] <Ziroday> AngryBacon: is this the 512MB card?
[06:13] <Delson> kk
[06:13] <gogeta> sjovan proxy server
[06:13] <donkey7186> sjovan oh ok
[06:13] <AngryBacon> Ziroday: yup
[06:13] <izinucs> DeVonne, it may be dead.. it happened to me with a HP Lightscribe.. Used it 3 times and it bit the dust.
[06:14] <gogeta> donkey7186 go threw a usa proxy
[06:14] <Enix> hello all, it has been awhile scince i have used linux but i have a question now that my vista has crashed. My question is: Can i recover my files using a live cd or similar without  formating the hard drive thus erasing everything anyway. I want my files off the HD before i make my move to a fresh install of ubuntu.
[06:14] <donkey7186> im not in canada
[06:14] <p_vas_salotti> HE MEN
[06:14] <DeVonne> I can try booting the live cd with it if that will convince people it works
[06:14] <donkey7186> i listen to it all the time on windows but i cant on here
[06:14] <RedScare> of course Enix
[06:14] <gogeta> donkey7186 so
[06:14] <gogeta> donkey7186 usa proxy
[06:14] <p_vas_salotti> QUI PARLE FRANCAIS
[06:14] <donkey7186> how
[06:14] <monkeyBox> What's the difference between powernowd and cpufreq?
[06:14] <Enix> RedScare: mind pointing me to some good reading material?
[06:14] <gogeta> donkey7186 you can be in iran for all i care use a proxy
[06:14] <Ziroday> AngryBacon: then thats the really new card and 7.10 does not have the updated nvidia drivers for that card yet. You can either run 8.04 which is currently in beta or compile the latest nvidia drivers by hand
[06:14] <DeVonne> if I boot the live cd and it works, then what do you recommend?
[06:15] <donkey7186> well how do i do that
[06:15] <RedScare> Enix, its actually very simple, since Ubuntu has built in NTFS support
[06:15] <pen> DeVonne: boot it first
[06:15] <DeVonne> ok be right back
[06:15] <hellonull> wait DeVonne
[06:15] <sjovan> donkey7186: have you tryed any other "radio" services then?
[06:15] <DeVonne> ok
[06:16] <donkey7186> yes
[06:16] <hellonull> try hdc instead of cdrom0 in that command i gave you earlier
[06:16] <AngryBacon> Ziroday: I installed the new drivers from nVidia, but it still doesn't work
[06:16] <donkey7186> they all work but not this one
[06:16] <gogeta> donkey7186 somewebsite acully do it foryou
[06:16] <DeVonne> ok
[06:16] <Enix> ah, i c, can it be accesed via the terminal right from the get go, or is there some configuring beforhand?
[06:16] <AngryBacon> Ziroday: what version of the drivers does hardy come with?
[06:16] <Jordan_U> Enix, Boot the LiveCD, go to Places -> Computer, copy the files, rejoice :)
[06:16] <izinucs> AngryBacon, did you install them with gdm stopped?  I think that's the correct method
[06:16] <DeVonne> mount: special device /hda1/hdc does not exist
[06:17] <RedScare> Enix, Jordan is spot on, that is really all there is to it
[06:17] <AngryBacon> inzincus: yes..
[06:17]  * AngryBacon feels a tad patronized by that one
[06:17] <RedScare> it will normally automount
[06:17] <DeVonne> i tried
[06:17] <DeVonne> root@visionary-desktop:~# mount -t iso9660 /media/cdrom0 /cdrom
[06:17] <DeVonne> mount: /media/cdrom0 is not a block device
[06:17] <Enix> I bow to you kind sirs, have a good evening (or whatever it is where u are). :)
[06:17] <RedScare> if it doesn't its because windows has crashed and the drive has set to be active
[06:17] <Ziroday> AngryBacon: try using envy by alberto milone, it makes installing the latest drivers really easy http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[06:17] <AngryBacon> Ziroday: tried it
[06:17] <RedScare> in which case you will have to - force
[06:17] <gogeta> http://proxy.org/
[06:17] <gogeta> just use a us proxy and enjoy
[06:18] <izinucs> AngryBacon, did you check xorg.conf to see if "nvidia" is  listed as the driver?  how bout running nvidia-settings?
[06:18] <Ziroday> AngryBacon: well then I can't help you, good luck
[06:18] <RedScare> its remarkably simple Enix
[06:18] <RedScare> Happy unixing
[06:18] <AngryBacon> izinucs: yup
[06:18] <gogeta> might need to use a few to find one fast enough
[06:18] <pen> DeVonne: hm, btw, can you describe your problem again? Do you mean the CD icon doesn't change if you insert cd into it?
[06:18] <AngryBacon> also, nvidia-settings doesn't work unless the driver is already runnning
[06:18] <izinucs> Ziroday, envy is not a good suggestion.. using it may bork your system on upgrade.
[06:19] <monkeyBox> Anyone familiar w/ cpufreqd?  It's currently reporting my speed is at 800Mhz when I have a 2.2Ghz cpu
[06:19] <jim> AngryBacon: does that surprise you? :)
[06:19] <DeVonne> when I am in places -> computer and try to open the cd it says no media, and cedega says no medium
[06:19] <AngryBacon> jim: izinucs suggested it
[06:19] <gogeta> donkey7186 enjoy
[06:20] <pen> DeVonne: how abotu audio cd? other kinds of cd?
[06:20] <jim> ahh, ok... but think about it: if you have a settings app, you might need the thing to which the settings are applied
[06:20] <Ziroday> izinucs: yes. or it may fix your install :)
[06:20] <DeVonne> let me get one
[06:20] <RedScare> monkeybox, its scaling your processor based on workload
[06:20] <RedScare> this is normal
[06:20] <N3WFI3> sup
[06:21] <monkeyBox> RedScare, How can I manually set it?  I'm currently on AC power
[06:21] <Delson> delson: sda
[06:21] <Delson> Delson: sdakls
[06:21] <N3WFI3> im dling ubuntu 7.10 hopefully i can run it alongside windows cause i think my second hard drive is dying lol
[06:21] <monkeyBox> RedScare, I've tried running a cmd to set the freq to 2200,  but it still reports it at 800
[06:22] <DeVonne> audio cd is not working wth?
[06:22] <jim> ok. I'll bite. What is on your second hard drive
[06:22] <RedScare> what command are you running monkey?
[06:22] <hellonull> i'm having a problem with mysql-server... everytime i install a package via aptitude i get this error at the end: "E: mysql-server-5.0: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" and "E: mysql-server: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured"... i tried completely removing it via synaptic and re-installing, it still has this problem... also tried purging it and reinstalling, but the problem persists. any sugges
[06:22] <Kemrin1> I lost the Game
[06:22] <hhMish_> How do I install dpkg & apt-get back on system on which it was erased or never installed ?
[06:22] <umop> How can i find the file that shows me mount options for a USb drive, it's mounting as read only for some reason(i cant see anything in /etc/fstab)
[06:22] <Ziroday> hellonull: you need to look at reason why mysql is not installing
[06:23] <hellonull> Ziroday: where do i find that?
[06:23] <DeVonne> the audio cd did not work, I am going to try the boot cd
[06:23] <gogeta> umop ntfs?
[06:23] <Ziroday> hellonull: it should say in the error messages when you install it
[06:23] <monkeyBox> RedScare,  cpufreq-set -c 0 -f 2200
[06:23] <gogeta> umop oh qwait the new ubuntu has ntfs rw by efult humm
[06:24] <Dr_willis> gogeta,  unless the partition is flagged as needign checked by windows.
[06:24] <umop> gogeta, Yeah, but i'm not even sure what format the drive is
[06:24] <Dr_willis> gogeta,  then it goes to read only. :)
[06:24] <Dr_willis> umop,   'sudo fdisk -l' and look
[06:24] <gogeta> true
[06:24] <DistroJockey> hhMish_: I doubt it was never installed. What does:  man dpkg   return?
[06:24] <thundr2> Delson: Sorry, I don't know exactly where to find it.  It should be fairly easy to find, but it's been quite a while since I've used Ubuntu.  I know the setting is there.  Perhaps it's in the xorg.conf file or whatever the correct config file or utility is.  Perhaps someone else can give a more clear answer?
[06:24] <ntorido> Whats the best program for doing vector graphics in linux?
[06:25] <gogeta> Dr_willis cant he use ntfsfix to reair a usb drive
[06:25] <hhMish_> DistroJockey, it was probably erased, it is appliance where I need to install it back
[06:25] <cabrioleur> ntorido, inkscape or sodipodi
[06:25] <gogeta> reapir
[06:25] <thundr2> ntorido: inkscape comes to mind, but there are others
[06:25] <pen> DeVonne: I think your linux doesn't set your CDRom drive up properly, try reboot with CDRom taken off
[06:25] <Jordan_U> ntorido, Or xara
[06:25] <RedScare> monkey are you running that as sudo
[06:25] <hellonull> !pastebin
[06:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[06:25] <Dr_willis> gogeta,  he could. - i hear its best to let windows fix it however.
[06:25] <hhMish_> DistroJockey, mans were erased, too
[06:25] <pen> DeVonne: or reinsert your cdrom
[06:25] <Jordan_U> !best | ntorido
[06:25] <ubotu> ntorido: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[06:25] <DeVonne> do you mean unplug it?
[06:25] <DistroJockey> hhMish_:  eek!
[06:25] <hhMish_> let's ignore small difficulties
[06:26] <pen> DeVonne: well, reinsert
[06:26] <umop> Dr_willis, Hmm ok
[06:26] <hhMish_> and move on
[06:26] <hhMish_> is there something like dpkg --root /mnt/sys , or I need debootstrap for that ?
[06:26] <DeVonne> what do you mean reinsert? just unplug and plug it back in>
[06:26] <zm> scim dead means what?
[06:27] <thundr2> ntorido: if you're familiar with Adobe Illustrator, you should be fairly comfortable with Inkscape.  I haven't tried the others extensively, though.  They might fit your needs better.
[06:27] <hellonull> Ziroday: it fails to "start mysql database server mysqld"... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62282/
[06:27] <DeVonne> pen:  do you want me to boot without the cdrom drive then with it?
[06:27] <pen> DeVonne: course, try it
[06:27] <DeVonne> pen:  ok brb
[06:28] <umop> Dr_willis, Okay - it must be fat32, it mounts fine on another Ubuntu install, just read only on my current box
[06:28] <Delson> thundr2: what distro do u use?
[06:28] <pyrak> what's the command to "unzip" a tar?
[06:28] <Dr_willis> umop,  compare the fstab in the other.. with this machines fstab
[06:28] <Starnestommy> pyrak: tar -xf filename.tar
[06:29] <Dr_willis> !info unp | pyrak
[06:29] <gogeta> pyrak or click extract hear
[06:29] <ubotu> pyrak: unp (source: unp): unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.12 (gutsy), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB
[06:29] <gogeta> lol
[06:29] <Dr_willis> i like unp :)
[06:29]  * AngryBacon hates comcast
[06:29] <umop> unp is ice
[06:29] <thundr2> Delson: I use Ubuntu and Vista.  Due to a system error, I haven't been able to boot to Ubuntu except through VMware.
[06:29] <umop> *nice
[06:29] <gogeta> ***AngryBacon :)
[06:30] <gogeta> ***AngryBacon  get dsl
[06:30] <pyrak> unp is command line?
[06:30] <Delson> ohhh
[06:30] <AngryBacon> gogeta: dsl in my area is pretty bad
[06:30] <gogeta> AngryBacon att 6.0 mps
[06:31] <ekontsevoy> softtower: try :help set
[06:31] <gogeta> mbs
[06:31] <thundr2> Delson: And since performance in that is sluggish under Vista, I simply have to stick with Vista for most tasks.
[06:31] <AngryBacon> gogeta: i dobt that its available at that speed in my area
[06:31] <g13y50n> brasil?
[06:31] <g13y50n> alguem pode me ajudar?
[06:31] <gogeta> ***AngryBacon better to have slower dsl then faster comcast that blocks bt
[06:31] <N3WFI3> whats an easy way to check my hard drives health? i think one of my hard drives may be dying
[06:31] <Starnestommy> !br | g13y50n
[06:31] <ubotu> g13y50n: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[06:31] <Dr_willis> pyrak,  of course. :)
[06:32] <umop> Dr_willis, I spoke too soon, the device is not even listed in fdisk -l
[06:32] <Dr_willis> pyrak,  you asked for a 'command' to unzip a tar. :) unp can do it.
[06:32] <AngryBacon> gogeta: its a problem if i can't get faster than 1mbps
[06:32] <gogeta> ***AngryBacon thats all i get hear 1.6 mbs
[06:32] <Dr_willis> umop,  that sounds like a usb issue.. or somthing else real odd. You DID so 'sudo fdisk -l' ?
[06:32] <Delson> true...u sed vista for about a month
[06:32] <gogeta> 1.5
[06:32] <Delson> i couldnt tolerate it
[06:32] <Mashandar> 1.5mbps is the fastest I can get where I live
[06:32] <gogeta> ***AngryBacon cable or dsl thats the max
[06:32] <AngryBacon> gogeta: by cable tests at 10
[06:33] <umop> Dr_willis, yeah, and it is mounted - I can browse the drive
[06:33] <OmmeletteDuFroma> oh hai there gais
[06:33] <gogeta> ***AngryBacon well comcast sucks
[06:33]  * AngryBacon knows that
[06:33] <ashbringer> Is there a package in the repos for truecrypt in 7.10?
[06:33] <tonyyarusso> ashbringer: no
[06:33] <DOOM_NX> firefox "www.google.com"
[06:33] <DOOM_NX> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[06:33] <g13y50n> brasil?
[06:33] <DOOM_NX> what happened? :S
[06:33] <Dr_willis> umop,  so.. what was the problem? heh - i forget.
[06:34] <FloodBot2> DOOM_NX: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:34] <g13y50n> alguem pode me ajudar?
[06:34] <ashbringer> tonyyarusso: Why was it taken out?
[06:34] <Starnestommy> !br | g13y50n
[06:34] <ubotu> g13y50n: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[06:34] <tonyyarusso> ashbringer: when was it ever in?
[06:34] <umop> Dr_willis, the drive mount read only
[06:34] <jim> DOOM_NX: segmentation fault
[06:34] <g13y50n> help!
[06:34] <DOOM_NX> jim, what's that?
[06:34] <g13y50n> brasil?
[06:34] <gogeta> ***AngryBacon im syuck on dailhell atm
[06:34] <gogeta> lol
[06:34] <g13y50n> alguem pode me ajudar?
[06:34] <Starnestommy> g13y50n: #ubuntu-br
[06:34] <jim> access to unowned ram (it's a hardware segment checker)
[06:34] <Randocal> How would I go about setting things up so that xchat loads when I boot into Ubuntu?
[06:34] <ashbringer> tonyyarusso: It was definitely in in feisty, or at least I know I installed it without doing anything special...
[06:34] <Dr_willis> umop,   since its a usb drive. it got automounted i imagine, and dosent have a fstab entry.  You could unmountit, and remoubnt it manually with the proper options to let users access it.
[06:34] <tonyyarusso> Randocal: System > Prefs > Sessions
[06:35] <DOOM_NX> jim so what do i do?
[06:35] <Randocal> tonyyarusso:  will that have xchat start when Ubuntu boots, or when I login?
[06:35] <umop> Dr_willis, yeah I have been doing that, not the greatest solution - guess I'll keep looking
[06:35] <jim> debug it... find the problem... fix it (got C chops?)... submit a bug report with a patch
[06:35] <jim> I mean...
[06:35] <tonyyarusso> Randocal: login, of course.  How would it start without a session to start in?
[06:36] <jim> what else would you do?
[06:36] <DOOM_NX> u mean firefox won't ever start again?
[06:36] <Randocal> I suppose so eh
[06:36] <g13y50n> alguem pode me ajudar?
[06:36] <Starnestommy> DOOM_NX: try sudo aptitude reinstall firefox
[06:36] <AngryBacon> Does any1 know what version the nvidia driver 8.04 comes with?
[06:36] <DOOM_NX> :o
[06:36] <DOOM_NX> can't i just restart?
[06:36] <jcp>  01:36:49 up 1 day,  9:40,  2 users,  load average: 0.54, 0.15, 0.04
[06:36] <Starnestommy> DOOM_NX: try that first to see if that's the problem
[06:36] <jcp> Linux heh 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Feb 12 02:46:46 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[06:37] <DOOM_NX> omg
[06:37] <Dr_willis> umop,  i perfer doing it that way. :)
[06:37] <DOOM_NX> ok thank u
[06:37] <DOOM_NX> brb
[06:37] <jcp> does anyone
[06:37] <jcp> know anything about custom kernels
[06:37] <jcp> with ubuntu?
[06:37] <umop> Dr_willis, My grandfather doesn't ;)
[06:37] <Flannel> AngryBacon: #ubuntu+1 for Hardy questions, thanks.
[06:37] <Dr_willis> umop,  get the old man a BASH book!
[06:37] <Starnestommy> jcp: what about them?
[06:38] <jcp> where can i find information regarding it
[06:38] <Dr_willis> umop,  actually i THINK if you run the ntfs-config tool (as root) and check the right boxs it will mount them as read/w by users
[06:38] <jcp> i'm more familiar with freebsd
[06:38] <jcp> than linux
[06:38] <Flannel> !kernel | jcp
[06:38] <ubotu> jcp: The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[06:38] <jcp> ty
[06:38] <umop> Dr_willis, haha, Will check it out
[06:40] <rhineheart_m> hello.. what's the best specs for a server?
[06:40] <tonyyarusso> rhineheart_m: eh?  what do you mean?
[06:40] <umop> rhineheart_m, there are many variables..
[06:41] <pyrak> so with no GUI (xfce) running, how do i change the size of the command line font?
[06:41] <rhineheart_m> I will make it to run webserver mailserver dataserver proxyserver in one box
[06:41] <umop> rhineheart_m, what kind of load are you expecting
[06:41] <pyrak> it's the perfect size while it booys, until it decides to change itself
[06:41] <tonyyarusso> pyrak: In 7.10, you don't.
[06:41] <pyrak> boots*
[06:41] <Starnestommy> pyrak: you may need to enable the framebuffer
[06:42] <pyrak> erm...
[06:43] <kenboo> how to install vmware?
[06:43] <kenboo> vmware-server.
[06:43] <Dr_willis> !vmware| kenboo
[06:43] <ubotu> kenboo: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[06:43] <kenboo> just use tgz binary?
[06:43] <Gun_Smoke> Playing with compiz here a bit.. Using the water effect.. How do I "draw" on the screen with water?  Like a finger on a puddle or the like...
[06:43] <kenboo> uh huh. thanks
[06:43] <Dr_willis> kenboo,  i thought they had debs. but ive used the tgz befor also.
[06:44] <pyrak> so is there no way to change the font size?
[06:44] <tuntun> Hi. Using Firefox, How do I drag a text selection up the page so it scrolls? (I tried the firefox channel but no ones home)
[06:44] <pyrak> that's a little ridiculous
[06:44] <recon> pyrak: have you tried going into System>Preferences>Fonts and changing it there?
[06:44] <pyrak> this is before launching the GUI
[06:45] <Dr_willis> tuntun,  it just does it automaticially here.. I select text. move mouse up.. it auto scrolls...
[06:45] <tonyyarusso> pyrak: it's a well-known bug, with literally dozens of duplicates and hundreds of comments.  In short, you're right - it is ridiculous, but being looked into.
[06:45] <kindofabuzz> R.I.P Charlton Heston
[06:45] <tuntun> Dr_willis, YOU AGA
[06:45] <pyrak> ok, thanks for the info tonyyarusso
[06:45] <tuntun> ..IN !!! :D
[06:46] <Dr_willis> tuna, :) the speed depends onhow far the mouse is past the edge of the browser 'webpage' area and into the menubar area
[06:46] <umop> pyrak, I thought it was a grub boot option
[06:46] <happosade> How to make folder to be just like CD in wine?
[06:47] <Kount> money = government. bisexual andrew macfarlane controls the heroin, pedophelia, death with all his money
[06:47] <Dr_willis> kenboo, I just saw this artical also    http://polishlinux.org/apps/vmware-workstation-65-beta-1-with-unity-support/
[06:47] <Dr_willis> happosade,  Huh? let me guess.. some wine game?
[06:47] <Starnestommy> pyrak: about enabling the framebuffer, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=652038
[06:47] <happosade> Dr_willis: yap.. Don't have CD-drive, so have to use them from harddisk
[06:48] <recon> Dr_willis: your best bet is to get an .ISO by ripping the CD, then mounting the ISO like you would a CD.
[06:48] <Kount> The Ottomans knew MAN, Hitler knew MAN, The knights Templar did know man! My bigbrother Miguel ("Michael") gave me away to the people I went to highschool with (BiSexual Andrew MacFarlane) 12 years ago! He + the CIA are doing in first world countries what the IMF been doing in 2nd, + 3rd world countries for decades- Programs of Mass eXtermination!: The killing doesn't stop! + It'll take more than two world
[06:48] <Dr_willis> recon,  tell it to happosade  :)
[06:48] <Dr_willis> happosade,  you can easially mount iso images like recon  said.
[06:49] <recon> Dr_willis: er, my brain b0rked. i meant happosade.
[06:49] <Dr_willis> Heh heh..
[06:49] <hhMish_> What is difference between debootstrap and cdebootstrap ?
[06:49] <tuntun> Dr_willis, I just made a new profile, just in case an extension was stopping it. Yet I select some text, try to drag it up to a input box that is just out of view, but it doesnt scroll :(. I tried ff3b and it didnt work either...
[06:49] <happosade> And how to get that easy :D
[06:50] <Dr_willis> tuntun,  i am using FF3B5 i belive. (or 4) on hardy
[06:50] <recon> happosade: a guide to making ISO files from CD's can be found at http://www.wikihow.com/Create-an-ISO-File-in-Linux
[06:51] <tuntun> Dr_willis, /ff2 on boontoo
[06:52] <bullgard4> Why does the Ubuntu notification service use a notification-daemon instead of an ordinary subprogram?
[06:52] <recon> happosade: replace /dev/cdrom with the /dev of your CD drive.
[06:52] <Dr_willis> !iso | happosade
[06:52] <ubotu> happosade: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[06:54] <michael__> ok im at a last resort anyone in here fammiliar enough to help a friend install a driver ??
[06:54] <tuntun> New question for yall (amule channel is totally dead). My 'mule only connects when I have my modem firewall turned off. Even though I have specified the port-forwarding and firewall rules to allow the ftp.udp connections. Whats Is wrong with it? I prefer having my hardware firewall on ;)
[06:55] <DeVonne> OK, I tried the one thing, did not work, the live cd did not work, so I swapped the drive, live cd worked then and I still have the linux reading the cd's problem
[06:55] <michael__> i really need some help and if you think you can help install this driver join #Helpstpat?
[06:55] <Jonnie> hello
[06:55] <Jonnie> need help?
[06:55] <recon> !ask | Jonnie
[06:55] <ubotu> Jonnie: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[06:55] <hhMish_> tuntun, get better modem
[06:55] <Jonnie> ok
[06:56] <tuntun> hhMish_, well, that's not really any help! (and I have a decent modem anyway)
[06:56] <z3ek> hey anyway of putting Evolution in the taskbar when minimized?
[06:56] <tonyyarusso> z3ek: alltray
[06:56] <recon> z3ek: use alltray.
[06:56] <Jonnie> tried to install ubuntu 6.06 lts server onto a new hp proliant ml110 g5 with sata hdd and cdrom.. installing from cd.. boot ok... then it says no cdrom detected..
[06:56] <michael__> comeone you guys havent failed me yet help me and my buddy out
[06:57] <N3WFI3> yo i just cleared one of my hard drives with zeroes how do i get windows to see the drive again
[06:57] <z3ek> that was quick, heh thanks
[06:57] <N3WFI3> i wanna install ubuntu on it
[06:57] <hhMish_> tuntun, then I'm afraid you're on your own
[06:57] <tonyyarusso> N3WFI3: you'll need to format it, either ntfs or fat32
[06:57] <N3WFI3> command in ms dos or something
[06:58] <N3WFI3> the drive is D:
[06:58] <DeVonne> what is that dsmeg or w/e command to see hardware info?
[06:58] <Survivorman>    z3ek I think there is a plugin mail-notifcation-evolution
[06:58] <michael__> whay ar you using dos ( thw command would be format) =P
[06:58] <tonyyarusso> N3WFI3: you can use gparted on the Ubuntu live CD.  And there's no such thing as "drive D:"
[06:58] <travers> the super shitty nature of linux has suprised me yet again, my mdadm array has just disappeared
[06:59] <N3WFI3> lol
[06:59] <Dr_willis> travers,  demand a refund!
[06:59] <tonyyarusso> travers: please keep your complaints elsewhere - this is a support channel only.
[06:59] <z3ek> thanks Survivorman, let me try alltray first
[06:59] <z3ek> :P
[06:59] <Jonnie> anyone help ?
[06:59] <travers> what else is irritating is that I uncomment a line in /etc/sudoers to allow all users in the group sudo not require a password, add my user to the group
[06:59] <travers> it worked
[06:59] <travers> but it did not survive a reboot? wtf? that's frustrating
[07:00] <travers> I would be more pleased if it had not worked
[07:00] <travers> then intermitantly working
[07:00] <happosade> "mount: you must specify the filesystem type"
[07:00] <Zelta> Why isn't CSM installed by default in ubuntu?
[07:00] <happosade> What the ?
[07:00] <travers> and WTF does ubuntu not come with openbsd's openssh?
[07:00] <SeveredCross> Zelta: What CSM?
[07:00] <Zelta> CompizConfig Settings Manager
[07:00] <Zelta> lets you enable other features
[07:00] <Survivorman> cssm Zelta
[07:00] <Dr_willis> ubuntu installs no unneedes services by default. thats just how it is.
[07:00] <Zelta> i.e. cube
[07:00] <Zelta> oh
[07:00] <Zelta> well, that
[07:00] <FloodBot2> Zelta: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:01] <travers> I'm not pissed because I lost any data, no, I have backups
[07:01] <tonyyarusso> Zelta: Exposes more options than it was felt necessary.  Easy to add though, for those who need it.
[07:01] <Jonnie> hello?
[07:01] <travers> okay, I've got that off my chest, cya
[07:01] <Zelta> I suppose so
[07:01] <softtower> Jonnie: wassup?
[07:01] <Radar> Hi, when I select a new font to use in the console the font's letters appear stretched unless I go to an insanely high point (like 36), how can I fix that?
[07:01] <z3ek> ok its saying "please click on the window you want to add to the tray etc" but when i clike on Evolution nothing happens
[07:01] <tonyyarusso> aop
[07:01] <happosade> "mount: you must specify the filesystem type"   WT..?
[07:01] <Jonnie> [13:56] Jonnie: tried to install ubuntu 6.06 lts server onto a new hp proliant ml110 g5 with sata hdd and cdrom.. installing from cd.. boot ok... then it says no cdrom detected..
[07:02] <pyrak> while we're discussing annoying things:
[07:02] <softtower> Jonnie: this is super-weird.
[07:02] <NickRivers> is hardy heron going to be the next LTS release?
[07:02] <pyrak> i used to be able to use a screensaver preference to make my screen lock when i closed the lid of my lappy
[07:02] <tonyyarusso> NickRivers: for Ubuntu, yes.
[07:02] <NickRivers> kewl
[07:03] <recon> NickRivers: yes, but not for Kubuntu. I think.
[07:03] <tonyyarusso> correct
[07:03] <Jonnie> softtower: it says load own cdrom drivers?
[07:03] <Survivorman> I believe mail-notification and mail-notification-evolution allows you to have a persistent icon on the bar and then checks your mail and alerts you when you have new mail. it can open evolution for you too z3ek.
[07:04] <softtower> Jonnie: I've never seen anything like this. I am afraid I won't be able to help
[07:04] <Jonnie> :(
[07:04] <N3WFI3> so i just create a primary partition i guess in disc management tools?
[07:04] <N3WFI3> then i can install linux i guess
[07:04] <N3WFI3> lol
[07:04] <happosade> "mount: you must specify the filesystem type" ?
[07:04] <recon> N3WFI3: ...if you're going to install linux on it, why do you need windows to recognize it
[07:05] <jim> tonyyarusso: so you don't allow dissent here?
[07:05] <softtower> Jonnie: I would go into BIOS and double-checked everything that has something to do with CD-ROM or SATA/ATA (your CD-ROM is SATA, right?)
[07:05] <N3WFI3> just bored
[07:05] <N3WFI3> so is it best to leave it alone or convert to ntsc?
[07:05] <tonyyarusso> jim: It's offtopic - support only in official support channels (otherwise the channel would be full of cruft and useless)
[07:05] <N3WFI3> ntfs***
[07:05] <Jonnie> yes sata, in bios its auto config.. nothing to config.. notthing like enhance performance...
[07:05] <recon> N3WFI3: if you install linux on said partition that windows just recognized, windows probably won't recognize it anymore.
[07:05] <NickRivers> N3WFI3: are you planning on dual booting?
[07:06] <tonyyarusso> jim: there is, however, an #ubuntu-offtopic that allows many more topics (but still not all)
[07:06] <N3WFI3> i'm thinking about a dual boot situation ya
[07:06] <DeVonne> I am having a cdrom problem also, linux wont read the disc's
[07:06] <NickRivers> N3WFI3: which distro? with ubuntu live cd it can automatically resize your windows partition and set up linux in the reclaimed free space
[07:06] <jim> ok, I see... so you're banning him after he left so that he will... hmm, I don't know how to finish the sentence
[07:07] <softtower> Jonie: modern BIOSes have all kinds of weirdo SATA/PATA "modes". I would just went through every screen: I had issues like "no hard drive detected" that were caused by SATA "mode" setting in BIOS.
[07:07] <recon> jim: it will automatically redirect him to #ubuntu-ops for any further "inquiries".
[07:07] <z3ek> N3WFI3: when you install ubuntu it will install Grub a boot loader
[07:07] <z3ek> so you can keep Windows too
[07:07] <Radar> yay.. help vampires galore.
[07:07] <tonyyarusso> jim: have a chance to have a friendly conversation about it first, before being let back in.  Usually works pretty well.  ("usually")
[07:07] <N3WFI3> im just dling the 7.10 desktop iso
[07:08] <NickRivers> N3WFI3: that is the live cd... it can automatically resize your NTFS partition to make space for linux
[07:08] <softtower> So weird to hear "you can keep Windows too". :-) Sounds like "You can switch to ice cream, but keep a box of dog poop in case you want to get back to your old habits" :-)))
[07:08] <recon> N3WFI3: there is no need to partition anything inside windows, ubuntu's installer has a built-in partitioner and bootloader setup that will use automagically set up a dual-boot.
[07:08] <gogeta> softtower prretty mutch
[07:08] <recon> N3WFI3: btw, are you using a partition or a whole hard disk?
[07:09] <kenboo> ubuntu + wine is just good enough for me. I rarely have to boot Windows.
[07:09] <N3WFI3> i got 2 hard drives so i would prefer to install linux on the second drive
[07:09] <jim> you should be able to do that
[07:09] <jim> (true of any linux)
[07:09] <NickRivers> N3WFI3: the live cd you are downloading will do the partitioning for you - no need to mess with it in windows
[07:09] <N3WFI3> i guess i just select the drive when i begin install?
[07:09] <recon> N3WFI3: the ubuntu installer has a "guided partitioning" in which you select the second hard drive, and it automatically sets everything up for you, including the dual-boot.
[07:10] <xyyzzz> What would be the easiest method about which I could go to install a .RPM? Is there a package I should download that does it all for me?
[07:10] <recon> N3WFI3: No messy manual partitioning required.
[07:10] <N3WFI3> ok cool
[07:10] <michael__> yeah just choose your drive in the installer
[07:10] <recon> xyyzzz: alien.
[07:10] <recon> !alien | xyyzzz
[07:10] <ubotu> xyyzzz: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[07:10] <jim> no messy manual to read?
[07:10] <N3WFI3> i may need some help getting started when i begin install, this is my first time ever trying linux :)
[07:10] <N3WFI3> im sure it will be pretty smooth tho
[07:10] <NickRivers> I finally dumped vista... fought with that (P)OS since it went RTM... had enough of Cousin Bill's shite
[07:11] <ian_`> how do I give Python access to delete a file that belongs to nobody
[07:11] <DeVonne> how do I get my cdrom to mount?
[07:11] <xyyzzz> recon, many thanks :))
[07:11] <N3WFI3> ya vista sux
[07:11] <recon> N3WFI3: the installer is "click and forget". after filling out some basic information (name, stuff you want to log in with) it'll automatically do the rest.
[07:11] <N3WFI3> can i login without a pass?
[07:11] <z3ek> yer its a very easy install
[07:11] <rhineheart_m> I am using celeron 2.2GHz without built-in video adapter.. Would it still function if m going to remove the video card? I will not use it.. I'm in a server without GUI
[07:11] <bullgard4> Why does the Ubuntu notification service use a notification-daemon instead of an ordinary subprogram?
[07:11] <N3WFI3> i guess i will just set one to make things easy
[07:11] <jim> N3WFI3: one of the thousands of programs available for linux is the x window system, a graphical display system for programs... you can use it... you also don't have to
[07:12] <recon> N3WFI3: not recommended, but there's probably a way posted on the internet somewhere.
[07:12] <recon> N3WFI3: however, a password of "e" is better than no password.
[07:12] <N3WFI3> haha yup
[07:12] <NickRivers> N3WFI3: you want to have a password... it's part of that whole 'security' think that microsoft fails to understand lol
[07:12] <N3WFI3> i'm guessing it will auto detect my display driver
[07:12] <NickRivers> *thing
[07:12] <recon> N3WFI3: yeah.
[07:13] <N3WFI3> im on geforce 6800
[07:13] <jim> knights that say 2.71828183
[07:13] <DeVonne> Ubuntu won't mount cd's I know it works because live cd worked, can someone help me?
[07:13] <N3WFI3> so when my download is complete do i just open it up and install or can i mount with daemon tools
[07:13] <NickRivers> N3WFI3: it will setup a non-3d accelerated driver for your nvidia during install and then once you boot into your system you can install the proprietary nvidia driver
[07:13] <recon> N3WFI3: it'll auto-detect. You'll also see a "restricted drivers" thing when you first boot. That is the wizard that installs proprietary drivers.
[07:14] <jim> DeVonne: what does linux think your cd is? /dev/what?
[07:14] <recon> N3WFI3: neither. you have to burn it to a disc, and reboot. it'll boot from the disc.
[07:14] <DeVonne> jim:  how do I check?
[07:14] <N3WFI3> do i have to :9
[07:14] <N3WFI3> :(
[07:14] <zm> how to install cs?
[07:14] <N3WFI3> lol
[07:14] <bullgard4> DeVonne:  "won't mount cd's" is no exact description. Please report the error message that occurs.
[07:14] <recon> zm: cs?
[07:14] <kenboo> is it just me that I get nvidia log everytime logon/logout X?
[07:14] <zm> cstrike
[07:14] <zm> a kind of game
[07:14] <kenboo> logo
[07:14] <recon> zm: you'll want to use wine.
[07:14] <jim> DeVonne: that too, what does it say when you try
[07:14] <DeVonne> The error message is it won't mount no media
[07:14] <recon> !wine | zm
[07:14] <ubotu> zm: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[07:15] <NickRivers> DeVonne: it won't mount even when you put a cd in the drive?
[07:15] <zm> i've download a package
[07:15] <sknh> Hi! I was importing data into Mysql using "mysql -u root -p testtable < tabledata.sql"
[07:15] <sknh> after entering the root password, I press CTRL+Z and then entered bg to run the process in background
[07:15] <DeVonne> no it won't NickRivers
[07:15] <recon> zm: does it end with .exe?
[07:15] <sknh> after a while I got an error on the console
[07:15] <zm> no
[07:15] <Makuseru> hi, i seem to be having a problem with Amarok, all of a sudden it wont get album covers, i right click and tell it "fetch cover from amazon" but it just never does it. anyone know how to fix this proble,?
[07:15] <zm> let me see..
[07:15] <sknh> where can I find the error? any error logs?
[07:15] <threefcata> anyone knows how to adjust sensitivity of trackpoint on thinkpads?
[07:15] <recon> zm: odd. you are referring to counter-strike, I assume.
[07:15] <jim> so the error scrolled by too fast?
[07:15] <zm> yeah
[07:15] <kenboo> sknh:  you got to redirect.  >logfile 2>&1
[07:16] <NickRivers> DeVonne: which version of ubuntu are you running?
[07:16] <DeVonne> NickRivers:  gutsy
[07:16] <recon> zm: download steam, run with wine.
[07:16] <zm> i packagee include a lot of .wad
[07:16] <N3WFI3> i thought u could install without burning, if i have 2 i will tho
[07:16] <zm> install steam?
[07:16] <recon> zm: yeah, it's the only method that works, for the most part.
[07:16] <michael__> guys is being a brown distro a bad thing ????
[07:16] <zm> what about wine?
[07:16] <zm> must I?
[07:16] <N3WFI3> can i burn it with windows or goto download some shit like nero
[07:17] <recon> zm: wine lets you run windows apps. steam is a windows app.
[07:17] <N3WFI3> dont wanna wait forever with my shitty download connection
[07:17] <sknh> kenboo: is there a way to find out the error now?
[07:17] <N3WFI3> lol
[07:17] <NickRivers> DeVonne: click on System | Preferences | Removable Drives and Media and make sure the option to automatically mount removable media is checked
[07:17] <recon> N3WFI3: probably windows. however, please refrain from cursing.
[07:17] <Survivorman> zm http://www.cstrike-planet.com/tutorial/1/5
[07:17] <zm> yeah i got it
[07:17] <N3WFI3> ok lol
[07:17] <kenboo> sknh:  no, it's gone to blackhole
[07:18] <N3WFI3> i remember installing vista from C: to my D: with a mounted iso tho :)
[07:18] <DeVonne> NickRivers: that is checked already
[07:18] <NickRivers> N3WFI3: you can get installation discs shipped to you for free if you have a slow inet cnxn
[07:18] <recon> N3WFI3: however, the shipping takes months.
[07:18] <Makuseru> hi, i seem to be having a problem with Amarok, all of a sudden it wont get album covers, i right click and tell it "fetch cover from amazon" but it just never does it. anyone know how to fix this proble,?
[07:18] <N3WFI3> my connection is 110kb/sec
[07:19] <N3WFI3> its ok but i dont call it fast haha
[07:19] <NickRivers> recon - it only took a couple weeks for me
[07:19] <NickRivers> N3WFI3: 110 KB/sec? quit complaining lol
[07:19] <Jordan_U> N3WFI3, You can install Ubuntu without burning a disk with wubi
[07:19] <z3ek> heh i sent of for 300 ubuntu cds once
[07:19] <z3ek> and they all turned up
[07:19] <Karkehan> Whats do I need to do to add a user to the sudoers file on my server?
[07:20] <NickRivers> Jordan_U: not 7.10 i don't think
[07:20] <N3WFI3> LMAO
[07:20] <sknh> kenboo: can u explain what ">logfile 2>&1" means?
[07:20] <z3ek> we ended up chucking them round my garden
[07:20] <N3WFI3> lol z3
[07:20] <N3WFI3> !
[07:20] <Jordan_U> NickRivers, You used to be able too, why not any more?
[07:20] <z3ek> hehe
[07:20] <DeVonne> NickRivers: it is checked, anything else? :(
[07:20] <N3WFI3> so this new release coming up, is it worth installing over the previous
[07:20] <NickRivers> Jordan_U: i think they bumped wubi up to 8.04
[07:20] <tonyyarusso> z3ek: that's not at all funny.  You're wasting community resources.
[07:20] <NickRivers> Jordan_U: which is currently in beta
[07:20] <Jordan_U> z3ek, That's money not going to developers
[07:21] <kenboo> sknh:  it redirects stderr to stdout which just redirected to logfile
[07:21] <Zizzy> JOIN IRC.ACIDCHAT.NET BITCHES
[07:21] <Zizzy> JOIN IRC.ACIDCHAT.NET BITCHES
[07:21] <Zizzy> JOIN IRC.ACIDCHAT.NET BITCHES
[07:21] <NickRivers> DeVonne: try typing 'eject /dev/cdrom' in a terminal window and see if it ejects your cdrom tray
[07:21] <tuntun> Dr_willis, this link (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41708) says that ff2/3 doesnt have a drag & scroll function, but somone mentioned an addon called DragToScroll with the comment "DragToScroll extension solves the problem beautifully, but really we shouldn't need to resort to an extension to do something that should be standard/taken for granted."
[07:22] <tuntun> WTF?
[07:22] <DeVonne> NickRivers: yes it just ejected
[07:22] <zm> where are the installed software?
[07:22] <Zizzy> JOIN IRC.ACIDCHAT.NET BITCHES
[07:22] <Kikkomaso> wait why am I here
[07:22] <Kikkomaso> I use debian
[07:22] <NickRivers> DeVonne: ok... so the system knows your cdrom exists... seems the problem is with the automount
[07:22] <Kikkomaso> D:
[07:22] <recon> zm: under the "applications" menu, there's a link that says "add/remove software".
[07:22] <tuntun> Dr_willis, this link (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41708) says that ff2/3 doesnt have a drag & scroll function, but somone mentioned an addon called DragToScroll with the comment "DragToScroll extension solves the problem beautifully, but really we shouldn't need to resort to an extension to do something that should be standard/taken for granted."
[07:22] <zm> yeah
[07:22] <DeVonne> NickRivers: ok what do you suggest?
[07:22] <softtower> anyone here runs Ubuntu on thinkpad?
[07:23] <tonyyarusso> softtower: T43, yes
[07:23] <recon> zm: for more selection and in-depth choices and complication, use synaptic package manager, under "system>preferences".
[07:23] <NickRivers> DeVonne: hang on... googling
[07:23] <zm> but i mean in the hardrive where there are?
[07:23] <DeVonne> NickRivers: ok sure
[07:23] <jim> * anyone :No such nick/channel
[07:23] <Dr_willis> tuntun,  well it does do it here.. and i dont recall ever adding that extension.
[07:24] <recon> zm: scattered.
[07:24] <Dr_willis> tuntun,  i alwsya seem to select TOO much :)
[07:24] <zm> everywhere?
[07:24] <zm> around my hardrive?
[07:24] <softtower> tonyyarusso: T43 is a bit too old... I am having issues with relatively new wifi card. well, thanks anyway.
[07:25] <recon> zm: a .deb debian package contains the files, and they go to their respective places. like /usr/share/something/ for runnable parts, /usr/bin/ for the executable, /etc/something/ or ~/.something/ for config files, etc.
[07:25] <vasyl> hello, can someone tell me if there is a way to change the behavior of alt+right click? I mean make it so that gnome doesnt show that minimize/maximize menu and instead uses the application alt+rightclick behaviour
[07:25] <recon> zm: it seems messy, but the package manager keeps everyhting in place.
[07:25] <zm> yeah
[07:25] <Starnestommy> zm: they're mostly in /bin, /sbin, /usr/bin, /usr/sbin, /usr/local/bin, /usr/local/sbin, and /usr/games
[07:25] <NickRivers> DeVonne: which kernel are you currently running?
[07:26] <zm> just very different from windows huh
[07:26] <DeVonne> NickRivers: I forgot the command to check
[07:26] <Jordan_U> DeVonne, uname -r
[07:26] <NickRivers> DeVonne: in a terminal window type 'uname -r'
[07:27] <jim> DeVonne: cat /proc/version
[07:27] <recon> zm: a lot more organized.
[07:27] <terminal> when i double click on sharing drive i got u must login to access n password required
[07:27] <DeVonne> 2.6.22-14-generic
[07:27] <recon> zm: doesn't depend on individual installers and registry access, one package manager manages everything.
[07:27] <zm> does any software run .xxx like .exe?
[07:27] <jim> windows
[07:27] <recon> zm: usually, executables don't have an extension.
[07:27] <zm> yeah
[07:27] <zm> yeah
[07:27] <recon> zm: you'll know if they are executable if they have the "executable" property.
[07:28] <jim> in unix executables can have any file name
[07:28] <NickRivers> .xxx? sounds like a gift from a pr0nbot lol
[07:28] <recon> in the default bash command line, they'll glow green.
[07:28] <NickRivers> DeVonne: did you just install your system?
[07:28] <DeVonne> NickRivers: few days ago
[07:28] <zm> yeah
[07:28] <NickRivers> DeVonne: and the problem started when?
[07:28] <terminal> when i double click on sharing drive i got u must login to access n password required
[07:29] <DeVonne> NickRivers: it is just now I tried to read cd's
[07:29] <joncruz> I have an odd wacom problem. Things worked when I tried a live CD. but when I did an install from that CD, the tablet no longer works
[07:30] <joncruz> anyone perhaps seen something on this, or have any pointers?
[07:30] <Dorjekardo> boa madrugada galera
[07:30] <zm> Database package required.  abort retry ignore what should i choose?
[07:30] <Dr_willis> joncruz,  the other day i had to isntall the wacom tools, and edit my xorg.conf to have the proper wacom tablet entry.
[07:31] <recon> zm: i'll need a little more information.
[07:31] <joncruz> Yeah. I've done that in the past, and it's worked
[07:31] <terminal> when i double click on sharing drive i got u must login to access n password required
[07:31] <zm> i am installing the steam you just told me
[07:31] <Dr_willis> joncruz,  i was thinking the wacom tablet stuff was enabled by default however.. unless it some how got removed
[07:31] <joncruz> this is now 8.04 beta on a macbook. wacdump shows the device, but no activity. However, the mouse buttons do work as mouse buttons
[07:31] <zm> i click 'ok' all steps and stop at this step
[07:31] <Dr_willis> joncruz,  i do recall the tablet needs to be plugged IN when X starts up
[07:31] <recon> zm: I've never seen that message.
[07:32] <zm> yep..
[07:32] <joncruz> yeah. did the have-it-in thing too.
[07:32] <DeVonne> NickRivers: you are still here right?
[07:32] <recon> zm: odds are, #wine is better suited.
[07:32] <recon> zm: they run the whole wine gamut.
[07:32] <joncruz> so it seems to be half-working.
[07:32] <bastid_raZor> recon; zm #winehq
[07:32] <NickRivers> DeVonne: yah
[07:32] <recon> zm: ok, #winehq. i stand corrected.
[07:32] <zm> #winehq
[07:33] <joncruz> same tablet on a desktop pc running 7.10 works fine.
[07:33] <bastid_raZor> zm; /join #winehq
[07:33] <joncruz> (it's annoying, since I'm trying to add enhanced tablet support to an app)
[07:34] <DeVonne> ahh, never type /list in ksirc
[07:34] <bastid_raZor> joncruz; you're using hardy right? if so #ubuntu+1
[07:34] <joncruz> ahhh... danke
[07:34] <z3ek> get irssi
[07:34] <joncruz> (I've tried searching the website, FAQ, board, etc.)
[07:34] <Dr_willis> joncruz,  if you are using hardy.. GOOOD LUCK :) we tried setting up tablets yesterday in it. Heh
[07:35] <Dr_willis> joncruz,  some forums say theirs just work.. others say they dont work
[07:35] <joncruz> as I said, the weird thing is that it worked fine when running live from the CD
[07:35] <Dr_willis> joncruz,  i would boot the live cd. and copy its xorg.conf somewher so you can cheat from it
[07:35] <DeVonne> NickRivers: I need to register my nick before I can private
[07:35] <Dr_willis> theres 'works' then theres 'works with all features'
[07:35] <mohamed> any body here
[07:35] <DeVonne> NickRivers:  ok done
[07:36] <NickRivers> DeVonne: ok... open /etc/fstab and look for the line that mentions your cdrom drive
[07:36] <Survivorman>  zm, you didn't install steam from synaptic did you? That's a different steam I think. I sent you a link to install steam and CS from CS's website.
[07:36] <recon> mohamed: about a thousand people, a few of whom are talking.
[07:36] <joncruz> the other thing is... if I've hit a strange bug situation I would like to help the proper people get it resolved before end of beta
[07:38] <macogw> does Gutsy have the printer config GUI from Fedora?
[07:39] <zm> survivorman: would you please send me again? i lost it
[07:40] <JessMeister> Hello
[07:40] <zm> survivorman: could you please send me again? i lost it
[07:40] <XTeLiS> howdy
[07:40] <Survivorman> zm, give me a sec :)
[07:40] <michael__> hey i just installed krfb were can i find it if i can use it all on reggular ubuntu
[07:40] <zm> ok`
[07:41] <JessMeister> I'm having issues installing Ubuntu on my old laptop.
[07:41] <XTeLiS> what kind ?
[07:41] <XTeLiS> use xubuntu
[07:41] <XTeLiS> on older systems
[07:41] <JessMeister> Compaq presario 1675
[07:41] <Survivorman> zm, http://www.cstrike-planet.com/tutorial/1/5. go to the next page for 1.6.
[07:42] <XTeLiS> hrmm... at least its not a delll
[07:42] <XTeLiS> dell even
[07:42] <JessMeister> whats wrong with dells?
[07:42] <Survivorman> zm, it takes a looooong time, live an hour or so to fully install, but it works.
[07:42] <XTeLiS> ubuntu hates dell
[07:42] <JessMeister> oh haha
[07:42] <XTeLiS> hard to set them up correctly
[07:42] <Survivorman> *like
[07:42] <zm> yeah..
[07:42] <bullgard4> Why does the Ubuntu notification service use a notification-daemon instead of an ordinary subprogram?
[07:42] <XTeLiS> well at least mine was a pain in the neck
[07:42] <zm> maybe i should give up it
[07:42] <macogw> XTeLiS: only if it has a Dell Broadcom wireless card
[07:43] <XTeLiS> which i have
[07:43] <XTeLiS> ;/
[07:43] <Survivorman> zm, if your connection is fast, it might be less. I'm only on slower dsl.
[07:43] <zm> all right
[07:43] <XTeLiS> and im still having a hella time tryin to config my wireless
[07:43] <XTeLiS> it 'says' its installed
[07:44] <jim> it?
[07:44] <XTeLiS> but i can seem to connect to any of the wireless networks around my neighborhood like i could with vista or xp
[07:44] <jim> it?
[07:44] <XTeLiS> it - drivers for my wireless card
[07:44] <XTeLiS> can = cant
[07:45] <Muhammad_Saad> Hello, I am having trouble with gnome-ppp. Can someone help?
[07:45] <macogw> XTeLiS: the drivers should be there automatically on 7.10, but you need firmware
[07:45] <jim> ok, what's the next step assuming the drivers are present?
[07:45] <macogw> XTeLiS: are you on that computer right now?
[07:45] <XTeLiS> yes
[07:45] <XTeLiS> using wired connect
[07:45] <macogw> XTeLiS: ok download http://macoafi.googlepages.com/firmware.tar.gz
[07:45] <XTeLiS> firmware ?
[07:45] <macogw> XTeLiS: firmware is the part that the card itself loads and then the OS uses the driver to talk to the firmware to tell the card what to do
[07:46] <macogw> XTeLiS: at least, that's my understanding of it. anyone is free to correct.
[07:46] <macogw> XTeLiS: i tar'd up the firmware from my mom's computer. she has a broadcom card too.
[07:48] <macogw> XTeLiS: after it's downloaded to your desktop, double click it to extract it.  open a terminal (apps -> accessories -> terminal) and type "cd Desktop" (with the capitals)
[07:48] <macogw> XTeLiS: then type "sudo mv firmware/* /lib/firmware/" and hit enter
[07:48] <macogw> XTeLiS: and then it *should* work
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[07:49] <gliss> hwo come when i tell it to install the swf-player it throws a fit and asks to UNINSTALL like 100 packages??
[07:50] <Starnestommy> gliss: does that happen when trying to install any other packages?
[07:50] <gliss> Starnestommy: no
[07:50] <gliss> just the shockwafe/flash player
[07:50] <gliss> shockwave
[07:50] <Starnestommy> gliss: could you please pastbin what happens when you try to install swf-player?
[07:51] <MrSkittle> hey
[07:51] <N3WFI3> i need to burn my iso
[07:51] <N3WFI3> whats a small filesize iso burner
[07:52] <tonyyarusso> !burners | N3WFI3
[07:52] <ubotu> N3WFI3: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus-CD-Burner, GToaster, xcdroast (GNOME), wodim (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[07:52] <N3WFI3> dont wanna wait forever on the dl haha
[07:52] <MrSkittle> N3WFI3: don't we all need to burn out isos?
[07:52] <N3WFI3> :0
[07:52] <MrSkittle> hey, I'm having errors when I try to upgrade
[07:52] <MrSkittle> apt-get upgrade, that is
[07:53] <macogw> N3WFI3: for windows?
[07:53] <gliss> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62285/
[07:53] <Survivorman> gliss, install swfdec-mozilla
[07:53] <N3WFI3> ya
[07:53] <MrSkittle> um, it's the "error committing changes" thing
[07:53] <putergirl> .
[07:53] <Dr_willis> N3WFI3,  i like 'burnatonce' for windows
[07:53] <gliss> ok
[07:53] <MrSkittle> there's a certain command that fixes it automagically
[07:53] <MrSkittle> what is it?
[07:54] <MrSkittle> dpgk-configure or something?
[07:54] <gliss> a girl?
[07:54] <macogw> N3WFI3: what about the iso power toy for windows that ms released?
[07:54] <gliss> in an ubuntu chat room at 3am?!
[07:54] <tonyyarusso> gliss: don't be annoying.
[07:54] <gliss> i'm not being annoying, i'm bing funny
[07:54] <N3WFI3> windows made one?
[07:54] <gliss> there's a subtle difference
[07:54] <macogw> gliss: of course.
[07:55] <DOOM_NX> what do i need to compile mplayer?
[07:55] <Dr_willis> N3WFI3,  i found 'burnatonce' better then the ms one.
[07:55] <N3WFI3> ya
[07:55] <gliss> tonyyarusso: i let her off easy, i was going to make a joke about philly
[07:55] <Survivorman> MrSkittle, were you thinking sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:55] <macogw> N3WFI3: http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm
[07:55] <Dr_willis> DOOM_NX,  a whole lot of dependencies...  and build-essential package
[07:55] <N3WFI3> i tried iso recorder
[07:55] <macogw> N3WFI3: right click an iso and there's a burn option
[07:55] <N3WFI3> it gave me an error
[07:55] <tonyyarusso> gliss: and yet you're on thin enough ice as it is.
[07:55] <N3WFI3> i think its cause im running sp3 beta
[07:55] <MrSkittle> Survivorman: that's probably it
[07:55] <gliss> so why can't i install swf-player?
[07:55] <gliss> why is there a gtk conflict?
[07:55] <cabrioleur> DOOM_NX, not much, it's up to you actually. There is a lot of options, and a compiler is a minimum. The rest of it is up to you.
[07:56] <gliss> i haven't touched the repos
[07:56] <jim> gliss: but if you are able to help hold this space safe for her, she might actually say something
[07:56] <DOOM_NX> Dr_willis, i have already installed mplayer, but i need to recompile it with xmms demuxer support
[07:56] <gliss> tonyyarusso: my landlord turned the heat off because it's "spring"
[07:56] <Survivorman> I had the same problem gliss when I tested it, I could only install the version I gave you.
[07:56] <gliss> jim: oh, i'm not that interested
[07:56] <macogw> gliss: no. you're not being funny, by the way.  it might've been funny when i first heard it nearly 2 years ago. it's not anymore.
[07:56] <jim> maybe tony is
[07:56] <FloodBot2> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[07:56] <jim> *shrug*
[07:57] <gliss> macogw: "no girls on irc" is a timeless joke. i heard it on irc over 10 years ago. excuse you
[07:57] <DOOM_NX> well if anyone can help me recompile mplayer with xmms support i'd appreciate it a lot
[07:57] <Dr_willis> DOOM_NX,  hmm.. xmms support? what doex xmms have to do with it?
[07:58] <macogw> gliss: it's not timeless. it's just old & tired.
[07:58] <DOOM_NX> http://users.softlab.ntua.gr/~ttsiod/mp3pro.html
[07:58] <gliss> Survivorman: that one installed with out a problem
[07:58] <DOOM_NX> here
[07:58] <jim> DOOM_NX: it's not just configure with turning on options, then make?
[07:58] <MrSkittle> Survivorman: you were correct
[07:58] <DOOM_NX> see last section
[07:58] <MrSkittle> Survivorman: thanks
[07:58] <gliss> Survivorman: the first one is a gstreamer plug in though, so i wanted that one
[07:58] <zenix> what is a good *lightweight* (aka, not Pidgin) multi-IM client?
[07:58] <Survivorman> MrSkittle, no
[07:58] <Survivorman> gliss, gotcha
[07:58] <cabrioleur> DOOM_NX, download sources, unpack it, then make sure you have a compiler. Do ./configure --help and find --enable options for it. If it doesn't work, install dev package for thing that's needed.
[07:58] <tonyyarusso> zenix: bitlbee?
[07:58] <MrSkittle> this has been my most pleasant experience in this channel to date!
[07:58] <DOOM_NX> i need to recompile it and remove getbits implementation
[07:58] <MrSkittle> kthxbai
[07:58] <ensi> aaaaw, nice user experience. beep media player locked up the entire gnome. thats so cute. :)
[07:59] <gliss> macogw: so every joke over 2 years old is tired and played out by now? i guess i better throw out all these comedy movies i have then
[07:59] <jim> you're the one that has to do that stuff... knowing something about it might be a good thing
[07:59] <tonyyarusso> gliss: stop now please.  This is a support channel, only.
[07:59] <macogw> gliss: how many times a day do you watch those movies?
[07:59] <gliss> tony said stop
[07:59] <gliss> isn't that right tony?
[08:00] <tonyyarusso> yes, all, please.
[08:00] <macogw> zenix: you could use finch. it's the ncurses version of pidgin
[08:00] <DOOM_NX> aaaah i'll never be able to play mp3pro streams :(
[08:00] <cabrioleur> DOOM_NX, it's easier than you think. Just try.
[08:01] <jim> de
[08:01] <DOOM_NX> cabrioleur, i don't even know where to start
[08:01] <ricosc> hey guys. I had a dual boot gutsy + XP setup, and now that I installed Hardy beta (clean install),Win XP is no longer on my GRUB menu (but the partition is there intact!) what should I do?
[08:01] <cabrioleur> DOOM_NX, go to mplayer website and download the sources.
[08:02] <DOOM_NX> kk
[08:02] <Dr_willis> I hope you have a lot of patience  DOOM_NX  :)
[08:02] <FloodBot2> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[08:02] <jeebusmobile> ricosc: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:02] <tonyyarusso> ricosc: one option would be to google for a Windows chainloading grub menu.lst and copy the relevant section, adapted for the right partition on your setup.
[08:02] <ricosc> and what do I put?
[08:02] <N3WFI3> lol
[08:02] <ricosc> okay.
[08:02] <FloodBot2> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[08:02] <ricosc> :)
[08:02] <N3WFI3> guys my iso disappeared!
[08:02] <N3WFI3> :9
[08:02] <N3WFI3> i dont know where the hell it went
[08:03] <dhee^^> _keyen
[08:03] <N3WFI3> :9
[08:03] <N3WFI3> :(
 I hope you have a lot of patience  DOOM_NX  :) -> i hope the same for u :P
[08:03] <jeebusmobile> ricosc: google add windows to grub or something...
[08:03] <un_dave> just in case this didn't come through before: hi, i just installed a theme which said "Apply suggested font" it worked, but now i just want to reset it back to the gutsy/gnome default. How do I find out what the default fonts are?
[08:03] <Dr_willis> DOOM_NX,  i cant imagine what you are doing that you need to recompile mplayer.
[08:03] <DOOM_NX> i told u, i want to play mp3pro files
[08:04] <Dr_willis> DOOM_NX,  ther is some apt-get command that can install all the needed deps for a package, when it was built. that may save a lot oftime
[08:04] <keiserr> hi
[08:04] <Dr_willis> DOOM_NX,  never heard of them.
[08:04] <N3WFI3> my iso got deleted or something by mistake i dont even know how it happened
[08:04] <Starnestommy> Dr_willis: sudo apt-get build-dep package?
[08:04] <N3WFI3> soo annoying now i goto get it again
[08:04] <Dr_willis> Starnestommy,  A+ :)
[08:04] <N3WFI3> :9
[08:04] <N3WFI3> :'(
[08:04] <jim> DOOM_NX: if you're building anything that has a configure script... first read the readme to see what it needs for building... then run configure with the options you want... then run make
[08:04] <tonyyarusso> Dr_willis: apt-get build-dep, iirc
[08:04] <tonyyarusso> bah, beat to it
[08:04] <cabrioleur> N3WFI3, find / | grep nameofthefile.iso
[08:05] <Dr_willis> DOOM_NX,  so for a start you proberly want to do a 'sudo apt-get build-dep mplayer'
[08:05] <jim> that's the overview... they'll take you through i
[08:05] <jim> t
[08:05] <bluefoxx> im trying to start frostwire and im getting this>Starting FrostWire...    Java exec not found in PATH, starting auto-search...    OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/lib/  hierarchy     You need to upgrade to JRE 1.5.x or newer from http://www.java.com       ls: cannot access /usr/java/j*: No such file or directory         OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/java/  hierarchy           You need to upgrade to JRE 1.5.x or
[08:05] <bluefoxx>  newer from http://www.java.com           ls: cannot access /opt/j*: No such file or directory        OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /opt/  hierarchy    You need to upgrade to JRE 1.5.x or newer from http://www.java.com
[08:05] <N3WFI3> im in xp
[08:05] <FloodBot2> bluefoxx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:05] <N3WFI3> anyway to find it
[08:05] <jeebusmobile> bluefoxx: pastebin.isawsome.net
[08:05] <bluefoxx> i had this problem before and dont have the logs of the solution anymore, unfortunately
[08:05] <cabrioleur> N3WFI3, use find tool or something. They must have one.
[08:06] <terminhell> howdy
[08:06] <bluefoxx> basically, how do i change my default java from the terminal?
[08:06] <Survivorman> bluefoxx, that's weird. i had a working install of frostwire days ago, and yesterday it just died. must have been some update I installed.
[08:06] <N3WFI3> this is soooo strange my iso got deleted and i dont even know how lol
[08:06] <jeebusmobile> N3WFI3: what iso
[08:06] <DOOM_NX> do i need to uninstall current mplayer installation first?
[08:06] <tonyyarusso> bluefoxx: update-alternatives.  can't help you with the specifics though
[08:06] <Survivorman> bluefoxx, the exact same thing happened.
[08:06] <bluefoxx> Survivorman: try running it from command line.
[08:06] <Dr_willis> DOOM_NX,  proberly a good idea
[08:06] <jim> DOOM_NX: it's installed as a package isn't it?
[08:06] <keiserr> how can i create a local [on a lan] mirror of an ubuntu archive from an ubuntu iso image (i have a macosx system here with apache2 running), am trying to set ubuntu on another PC (from a mini disk image)..it is asking me for ubuntu archive mirror hostname right now.. (i can smb share the iso image from my mac is needs be] what is required to have an ubuntu arichive/mirror?
[08:06] <Survivorman> bluefoxx, I did. I couldn't get it working. I just installed limewire instead.
[08:06] <Dr_willis> DOOM_NX,  id compile the new just for the user. dont install it system wide
[08:06] <zenix> N3WFI3: what iso? It got deleted. There was never a trace of it. YOU LIE
[08:07] <Han``> DOOM_NX: look at the codecs and install them-> http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Codecs
[08:07] <DOOM_NX> jim yes it is
[08:07] <tuntun> DOOM_NX: WIKIPEDIA: "mp3PRO playback in Linux may be possible under Wine using Thomson Demo mp3PRO Player or Winamp with the mp3PRO plug-in.[citation needed] There is also an mp3PRO plug-in for Linux XMMS-Player. The absence of an mp3PRO player for Linux is largely due to RCA not releasing the mp3PRO source code, even after discontinuing its support of the format. Methods for playing mp3PRO files under Linux (including using the XMMS plugin from within Mpla
[08:07] <tuntun> yer) are detailed here."
[08:07] <jim> btw you should install into somewhere like /usr/local
[08:07] <bluefoxx> Survivorman: gimmie a sec while i root around on my hard drives and try and find my old xchat logs[#ubuntu log was 26 mb!]
[08:07] <tuntun> yeah -_-
[08:07] <Survivorman> bluefoxx, sure :)
[08:07] <Dr_willis> sounds like its time to convert ya mp3pro to mp3...
[08:07] <kindofabuzz> there's a website with irc logs
[08:07] <tonyyarusso> bluefoxx: only?
[08:07] <jim> assuming ubuntu is something like debian, it wants to keep /usr (other than /usr/local) reserved
[08:07] <Survivorman> tonyyarusso, what are update-alternatives?
[08:07] <kindofabuzz> forgot what it is
[08:07] <tonyyarusso> Survivorman: it's a command for configuring such things
[08:08] <Survivorman> tonyyarusso, thanks
[08:08] <StAfZe6> you tell me
[08:08] <bluefoxx> tonyyarusso: i installed hardy from scratch after a botched reinstall of gutsy[hdd cable shredded] fortunately i had backups :) 6 hards enough?
[08:08] <DOOM_NX> Dr_willis, it's my favourite radio station and it broadcasts using mp3pro :S
[08:09] <Dr_willis> DOOM_NX,  you mean they 'stream' in mp3pro?  What player to they suggest?
[08:09] <tonyyarusso> bluefoxx: was referring to the 26 MB.
[08:09] <tuntun> DOOM_NX, read my last post^^
[08:09] <DOOM_NX> Winamp using Mp3Pro plugin
[08:09] <keiserr> test
[08:09] <DOOM_NX> yeah they're streaming anyway
[08:10] <bluefoxx> tonyyarusso: i know. it would be bigger but i lost the system for a while
[08:10] <keiserr> am i even in this channel? [just got confused about the ubuntu flood thing]
[08:10] <tonyyarusso> bluefoxx: yeah, I delete mine every few months
[08:10] <bluefoxx> Survivorman: sorrey. the log is lsot[corruption it seems]
[08:10] <tonyyarusso> keiserr: yes
[08:10] <tuntun> keiserr: you need halp!
[08:10] <keiserr> yes
[08:10] <Dr_willis> They must have a very small audiance.. whats their url anyway DOOM_NX ?
[08:10] <keiserr> how can i create a local [on a lan] mirror of an ubuntu archive from an ubuntu iso image (i have a macosx system here with apache2 running), am trying to set ubuntu on another PC (from a mini disk image)..it is asking me for ubuntu archive mirror hostname right now.. (i can smb share the iso image from my mac is needs be] what is required to have an ubuntu archive/mirror?
[08:10] <N3WFI3> im gunna try and recover the iso
[08:11] <N3WFI3> im hoping its not altered
[08:11] <DeVonne> My windows partitions arnt mounted anymore and I need them mounted
[08:11] <DOOM_NX> Dr_willis, can i post it here?
[08:11] <bluefoxx> Survivorman: WAIT! nano saved it! now i just have to search through a few thousand lines of text
[08:11] <Survivorman> i think you can run something like sudo update-alternatives --config java
[08:11] <Dr_willis> DOOM_NX,  if its not a flood. :)  I guess.
[08:11] <DOOM_NX> http://48kbps.xtc-radio.gr:9400
[08:11] <bluefoxx> unless nano has a search function
[08:11] <Exteris> bluefoxx, cat file | grep searchtext
[08:11] <Dr_willis> Ya got to wonder at their logic at being so limited.
[08:12] <DOOM_NX> well usually about 15-20 users are listening to it
[08:12] <zcat[1]> Exteris: grep regex file -- don't waste a perfectly good cat!
[08:12] <Exteris> zcat[1], oh wait you can do that too, damn
[08:12] <DeVonne> can someone help me get my windows partitions mounted again?
[08:13] <Exteris> DeVonne, if you try to mount them from nautilus, what error do you get?
[08:13] <N3WFI3> i goto recover my damn iso
[08:13] <N3WFI3> lol
[08:13] <N3WFI3> dont wanna wait for the download again
[08:13] <DOOM_NX> [10:09:37] <tuntun> DOOM_NX, read my last post^^ => i read it at wikipedia, what's ur point?
[08:13] <DeVonne> Exteris: how do I mount them from nautilus?
[08:13] <zcat[1]> N3WFI3: wget -c url
[08:13] <bluefoxx> Exteris: i can use with multiple search terms?
[08:14] <Survivorman> thanks tonyyarusso, with your help I found the answer by googling. bluefoxx, in terminal sudo update-alternatives --config java and select the proper version. worked like a charm :)
[08:14] <Dr_willis> DOOM_NX, .. err... i do 'vlc http://48kbps.xtc-radio.gr:9400' and it plays music.. so why are we doing this?
[08:14] <tonyyarusso> yay
[08:14] <Dr_willis> DOOM_NX,  :)
[08:14] <tuntun> DOOM_NX: " There is also an mp3PRO plug-in for Linux XMMS-Player."
[08:14] <zcat[1]> bluefoxx: grep -E 'string1|string2|string3" file
[08:14] <bluefoxx> Survivorman: tyvm ^^
[08:14] <zcat[1]> but make the quotes match :)
[08:14] <bluefoxx> zcat[1]: thanks :)
[08:14] <Survivorman> bluefoxx, np
[08:14] <DOOM_NX> tuntun, i don't know how to use alsa tables with XMMS :S
[08:14] <zcat[1]> and can't remember.. it might be -e rather than -E
[08:14] <DOOM_NX> Dr_willis, yes but it's playing at 22050Hz without mp3pro
[08:14] <jeebusmobile> man grep
[08:15] <DeVonne> Exteris: how do I mount them with nautilus?
[08:15] <Dr_willis> DOOM_NX,  no idea on that.. how can you prove it one way or another.. :) well good luck.
[08:15] <Exteris> DeVonne, if you see the partition, right click and select mount, but you might need to be root for that
[08:15] <n2diy> DeVonne: double click them with your mouse.
[08:15] <zcat[1]> Ummm.. whay are we telling ppl to use grep when we have tracker these days?
[08:15] <DOOM_NX> Dr_willis,  wikipedia quote: Any mp3 player can play mp3PRO files but they will be played at half the intended sample rate.
[08:16] <jeebusmobile> DeVonne: mount /dev/sdaFOO /mnt/point
[08:16] <Exteris> zcat[1], can tracker search in a single file you tell it?
[08:16] <Exteris> jeebusmobile, ntfs3g ?
[08:16] <zcat[1]> Exteris: good point!
[08:16] <Dr_willis> DOOM_NX,  mpga at 22050 it says.. sounds good to me..   well good luck.
[08:16] <DeVonne> Failed to mount '/dev/hda1': Operation not supported
[08:16] <DOOM_NX> Dr_willis, i've heard it at 44kHz and it sounds way better... but thanks anyway
[08:16] <DeVonne> Mount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in use. Choose one action:
[08:17] <Exteris> DeVonne, --force
[08:17] <jeebusmobile> DeVonne: what's on hda1
[08:17] <Exteris> DeVonne, that happened because there was a nonclean shutdown of windows
[08:17] <Exteris> jeebusmobile, ntfs
[08:17] <DeVonne> my music etc
[08:18] <Oleander> can i install the live cd from my ext hdd?
[08:18] <CorbinFox> Oleander: you mean install ubuntu from the live cd to an ext hdd?
[08:18] <Exteris> Oleander, if you figure out how to boot from it
[08:18] <DeVonne> Exteris: I cant get it to shutdown cleanly it won't validate
[08:18] <pen> DeVonne: hi
[08:18] <Exteris> DeVonne, therefore you should try the command they give you in the error window (the one with the --force)
[08:18] <wbreslin951> is there anything similar to guitar pro in ubuntu?
[08:18] <DeVonne> pen: hi
[08:19] <DeVonne> Exteris: will I get that again?
[08:19] <zcat[1]> wbreslin951: ummm.. frets on fire?
[08:19] <luke> hey guys, would a mac osx program work on ubuntu?
[08:19] <pen> DeVonne: try this excellent applet in gnome
[08:19] <pen> DeVonne: it's called Disk Mounter
[08:19] <macogw> luke: not likely. we have wine for windows apps. there's no compat layer for osx though.
[08:19] <macogw> luke: what app is it? i might no an alternative
[08:19] <pen> DeVonne: right click gnome panel and select add to panel
[08:19] <wbreslin951> zcat[1]: frets on fire..? isn't that a game?
[08:19] <pen> DeVonne: and add Disk mounter
[08:19] <luke> PwnageTool
[08:19] <zcat[1]> what does guitar pro do?
[08:20] <bluefoxx> woa! dude! what just happened?
[08:20] <macogw> zcat[1]: teaching game
[08:20] <DOOM_NX> damn flooders
[08:20] <pen> blu
[08:20] <DOOM_NX> :P
[08:20] <pen> lol
[08:20] <macogw> bluefoxx: a bunch of bots were kicked
[08:20] <zcat[1]> Oh... ok no idea :)
[08:20] <wbreslin951> zcat[1]: it creates tablature and stuff and plays back what u put in it
[08:20] <DeVonne> OK COOL! thanks pen
[08:20] <n2diy> macogw: Isn't OSX linux based?
[08:20] <bluefoxx> macogw: ah. i see...
[08:20] <macogw> zcat[1]: didnt mean game
[08:20] <pen> DeVonne: can you mount with that?
[08:20] <macogw> n2diy: no
[08:20] <macogw> n2diy: it uses FreeBSD userspace, and it's kernel is based on the Mach kernel
[08:20] <zcat[1]> OSX uses mach kernel I believe, basically *NIX based, not linux
[08:21] <pen> n2diy: no, it's BSD based
[08:21] <DeVonne> pen: I got them mounted with --force, but if it happens again I will try with that
[08:21] <luke> its called PwnageTool used for unlocking iphones and such
[08:21] <n2diy> Roger roger.
[08:21] <luke> would that work under ubuntu? the ext is .zip
[08:21] <zcat[1]> Linux is loosely based on *NIX tho
[08:21] <macogw> luke: oh. no idea there.  um .zip is just an archive.  whatever the program is is *inside* the zip, probably with a README
[08:21] <luke> ok
[08:21] <macogw> zcat[1]: but it definitely isnt binary compatible
[08:21] <luke> i know that zip is an archive...
[08:21] <macogw> zcat[1]: it just has the same filesystem
[08:21] <zcat[1]> not really, no.. :)
[08:22] <macogw> zcat[1]: and the same ideas for the main system calls....but the libraries are wayyy different
[08:22] <zcat[1]> same filesystem? I thought osx uses hfs+ or something?
[08:22] <wbreslin951> any guitarists in here that are familiar with guitar pro in windows and know of any program similar to it for linux?
[08:23] <pen> wbreslin951: there is one I forgot the name
[08:23] <amidaniel> I imagine osx can use just about any unix-compatible file system
[08:23] <zcat[1]> amidaniel: not sure that it can.. Linux can use a few different fs's tho
[08:24] <luke> is there any way to run an osx program on windows or ubuntu? i dont want to waste 1000 for a mac computer for a program i want to use once
[08:24] <jeebusmobile> wbreslin951: wine guitar pro
[08:24] <jeebusmobile> wbreslin951: or wine powertabs
[08:24] <amidaniel> luke: Depends. What program?
[08:24] <n2diy> luke: google for "linux emulators"?
[08:24] <zcat[1]> wine.. or cedega perhaps
[08:24] <luke> just the iphone SDK
[08:24] <jeebusmobile> wine = wine is not an emmulator
[08:24] <pen> lol
[08:25] <wbreslin951> jeebusmobile: darn.. i don't have the installer disk for guitar pro anymore so there's no way i could do it..
[08:25] <zcat[1]> what's cedega stand for?
[08:25] <Dream_Team> cedega is dead
[08:25] <macogw> zcat[1]: the hierarchy, i mean
[08:25] <zcat[1]> it is?!
[08:25] <pen> don't use cedega, it's useless now
[08:25] <jeebusmobile> wbreslin951: mount your windows partition
[08:25] <macogw> zcat[1]: and i meant that linux uses the same hierarchy as unix
[08:25] <macogw> zcat[1]: and as bsd. osx uses one like GoboLinux
[08:25] <wbreslin951> jeebusmobile: my windows comp is a totally seperate comp
[08:25] <luke> lol
[08:25] <zcat[1]> macogw: same basic layout, yeah..
[08:25] <zcat[1]> or very similar
[08:25] <jeebusmobile> wbreslin951: nfs, scp, rsync et al
[08:25] <luke> any one with an iphone or ipod touch?
[08:26] <wbreslin951> jeebusmobile: like.. samba?
[08:26] <zenix> WTF? iphone sux!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:26] <macogw> zenix: ill agree. ew touchscreen
[08:26] <Dream_Team> luke: me.
[08:26] <jeebusmobile> wbreslin951: if there's no *nix on that box yes
[08:26] <pen> use itouch
[08:26] <pen> lol
[08:26] <luke> i have an iphone.... unlocked, activated and jailbroken
[08:26] <zcat[1]> fbsd is quite a shock when you're used to linux though.. basically the same but it's like moving to France in terms of culture shock..
[08:26] <wbreslin951> jeebusmobile: whats *nix?
[08:26] <pen> wbreslin951: http://mikesubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/09/guitar-hero-for-ubuntu-frets-on-fire.html
[08:26] <luke> i can stream music from it to my ubuntu laptop
[08:26] <luke> YAY 4 ME
[08:26] <jeebusmobile> *nix = linux, unix
[08:27] <zcat[1]> just about everything is a little bit different
[08:27] <wbreslin951> jeebusmobile: yeah my windows comp is straight windows
[08:27] <zenix> who doesn't know what nix is? I'll strangle them!!!!!!!
[08:27] <luke> is Mandriva a decent linux distro?
[08:27] <Starnestommy> !ot
[08:27] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:27] <wbreslin951> zenix: sry im a noob lol
[08:27] <zenix> lol
[08:27] <jeebusmobile> zenix: couldn't choke a chiken
[08:27] <ZiggyFish_laptop> I'm trying to convert chm to pdf, but use the command chm2pdf it comes up with the usage message (the command I'm using is 'chm2pdf -book help.chm')
[08:27] <zenix> jeebusmobile: try me ;)
[08:28] <jeebusmobile> wbreslin951: yes, then use samba, copy your GP over and use wine
[08:28] <wbreslin951> zenix: i just now god the hang of installing programs and such, samba was a real pain to set up..
[08:28] <b1n42y> !ubotu compiz
[08:28] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[08:28] <wbreslin951> jeebusmobile: what do i do just copy the whole prgram files folder over?
[08:28] <luke> is Mandriva a good linux distro? im lookig for many linux distros to test run
[08:28]  * zcat[1] doesn't want to hear about zenix choking his chicken.. gross..
[08:28] <luke> ubuntu so far is aswome
[08:28] <jeebusmobile> wbreslin951: sure, give it a shot
[08:28] <zenix> jeebusmobile: !graby me in #better?
[08:28] <tonyyarusso> luke: #ubuntu-offtopic please
[08:28] <luke> sorry
[08:28] <luke> how do i get there?
[08:28] <jeebusmobile> zenix: asl?
[08:28] <tonyyarusso> luke: type /join #channel_name to join channels
[08:28] <Starnestommy> luke: type this: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:28] <pen> luke: /join #channel
[08:28] <zenix> jeebusmobile: o0
[08:28] <wbreslin951> luke: /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:29] <ZiggyFish_laptop> anyone
[08:29] <caio> oi
[08:29] <zenix> ha ha, support flood
[08:29] <luke> thanks
[08:29] <Starnestommy> ZiggyFish_laptop: try chm2pdf --book help.chm
[08:29] <DOOM_NX> i use 'mplayer -channels 2 -ao alsa:device=newtable' to play something through all 4 channels of my soundcard. do u know the equivalent command for xmms?
[08:29] <zenix> jeebusmobile: friggin !grab my quote, I can't not say things forever!
[08:29] <wbreslin951> jeebusmobile: have u any idea if GP5 is a windows xp program only? im not sure and wine doesn't do xp as far as i know
[08:29] <ZiggyFish_laptop> Starnestommy: thanks
[08:29] <Starnestommy> wine does do XP
[08:29] <jeebusmobile> wbreslin951: wine does a lot of crap
[08:29] <jeebusmobile> wbreslin951: people play wow on wine
[08:30] <zenix> Wine does Vista better than Vista does Vista, damn it
[08:30] <wbreslin951> mm.. didn't know that lol maybe my wines out of date?
[08:30] <jeebusmobile> wbreslin951: wines been doing XP for prolly as long as XP has been out
[08:30] <macogw> zenix: Vista needs Wine to run Photoshop :P
[08:30] <zcat[1]> WoW sure.. crappy old CD games like 'kitty love' -- nope.. (Don't ask.. my kid got it for christmas..)
[08:30] <sknh_> can anyone explain me what ">logfile 2>&1" means?
[08:30] <ikm> how to install ubuntu in text mode? which option to select?
[08:30] <jeebusmobile> so unless you've been running ubuntu for 5 years no its not out of date
[08:30] <wbreslin951> jeebusmobile: mm.. so yeah lol.. i guess im a complete and total noob
[08:30] <zenix> jeebusmobile: !grab zenix, k?
[08:30] <tonyyarusso> ikm: use the !alternate cd
[08:30] <wbreslin951> jeebusmobile: just installed bout a month ago..
[08:30] <jeebusmobile> zenix: here?
[08:30] <macogw> sknh_: 2> means to pass stderr (standard error)
[08:30] <n2diy> zenix: close, what I read was Wine does Vista better than Windows does Vista!? :)
[08:31] <Starnestommy> sknh_: it means to send all output to logfile and send error messages to it, too
[08:31] <pen> guys, try playonlinux.com
[08:31] <N3WFI3> ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso  this is what i need right i have core 2 duo intel
[08:31] <zenix> jeebusmobile: no, there (points to #arch)
[08:31] <ikm> alternate CD is in the dvd rom drive and i rebot my pc now its asking to install intext mode... select it?
[08:31] <jeebusmobile> otay
[08:31] <macogw> sknh_: i think the 2>&1 means to output both standard out and standard error...
[08:31] <sknh_> macogw: Starnestommy : thanks
[08:31] <tonyyarusso> ikm: yes
[08:31] <zcat[1]> N3WFI3: safe bet, if you're not sure, i386 will probably run..
[08:32] <zenix> jeebusmobile: did phrik say "Tada!"?
[08:32] <sknh_> Starnestommy: so the &1 here refers to logfile?
[08:32] <DOOM_NX> zcat[1], shouldn't he use the 64bit version?
[08:32] <tonyyarusso> N3WFI3: aren't the core 2 duo's 64-bit?
[08:32] <ikm> when i press install in text base mode, it shows me some DOS type text , is it normal? if yes. how long it will show me this kind of text?
[08:32] <jeebusmobile> zenix: didnt know you said it yea just grabed
[08:32] <zenix> heh
[08:32] <Starnestommy> sknh_: the &1 is a reference to the standard output stream, also called STDOUT
[08:32] <macogw> ikm: thats what text based mode means
[08:32] <heymr> ikm: just be patient
[08:32] <tonyyarusso> ikm: well, you said "text mode", so yes, it will all be in text...
[08:32] <zcat[1]> DOOM_NX: perhaps.. but if he's not sure i386 will work on both.. 64 bit won't work on 32bit cpu's..
[08:32] <keiserr> hi, where is the ubuntu 7.10 server repository located?  i want to fetch some files
[08:32] <DOOM_NX> though c2d is 64-bit
[08:33] <jmdc> !suspend
[08:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about suspend - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:33] <wbreslin951> what would be an advantage of running a 32 bit distro on a 64bit machine?
[08:33] <macogw> keiserr: same place the normal 7.10 repo is located
[08:33] <heymr> ikm: you go through all the blue screens until it installs grub and stuff. then you reboot
[08:33] <tonyyarusso> keiserr: there are hundreds of mirrors.
[08:33] <DOOM_NX> wbreslin951, no advantage maybe
[08:33] <ikm> tonyyarusso: ahh ok, how long it will take? this is my first time to install linux in text base mode? is there any command or it will install automatically?
[08:33] <zcat[1]> wbreslin951: until recently, a lot of stuff like codecs and flash was only available 32bit and getting it to work in 64 was very hard.. nat's less true these days
[08:33] <zcat[1]> *that's
[08:33] <tonyyarusso> ikm: the time depends on your computer.  Just follow the prompts.
[08:33] <n2diy> wbreslin951: the 32 bit apps. will work?
[08:34] <wbreslin951> zcat[1]: yeah even a noob like me has flash working lol
[08:34] <ikm> tonyyarusso: thanks dear
[08:34] <wbreslin951> n2diy: 32 bit apps will work in 64 bit
[08:34] <keiserr> macogw, : and where is that?
[08:34] <sknh_> Starnestommy: 2>&1 means we are passing stderr to stdout
[08:34] <sknh_> and >logfile means we are sending all output to this file
[08:34] <keiserr> tonyyarusso, :gimme one :)
[08:34] <macogw> keiserr: if your /etc/apt/sources.list is set up (which the installer did), it's already there
[08:34] <hellonull> looking to see if someone can help me fix my mysql server... it fails everytime it tries to start (mysqld)... tried reinstalling from synaptic, still same results
 what would be an advantage of running a 32 bit distro on a 64bit machine? -> isn't it the same as running 32bit distro on 32bit machine?
[08:35] <sknh_> Starnestommy: together it means we are sending all the output including errors to logfile?
[08:35] <n2diy> wbreslin951: Hmm, I guess so? The 32 bit hardware will work?
[08:35] <tonyyarusso> keiserr: us.archive.ubuntu.com, for the USA.
[08:35] <Starnestommy> sknh_: yes
[08:35] <macogw> keiserr: if you werent online when you did the setup, it might have everything commented out, in which case you should edit /etc/apt/sources.list so that all the lines that start wiht #deb just start with deb
[08:35] <sknh_> Starnestommy: can u point me somewhere where I can learn more about this?
[08:35] <Conartist> hello everyone..
[08:35] <wbreslin951> n2diy: yup, 32 bit will work in 64 as well
[08:35] <zcat[1]> DOOM_NX: 32 bit will run just fine on a 64bit machine, you just miss out on some potential performance gains..
[08:35] <blag> how would i go about using a database in a C++ program?
[08:35] <N3WFI3> i thought 64 bit had bad driver support
[08:35] <threefcata> anyone knows how to adjust sensitivity of trackpoint on thinkpads?
[08:35] <wbreslin951> n2diy: as long as u have a 64 bit processor
[08:36] <tonyyarusso> blag: that would be a question for the C++ channel (either #c++ or #cpp most likely - not sure)
[08:36] <zcat[1]> N3WFI3: it used to be really bad.. last 6 months it's changed a lot
[08:36] <wbreslin951> N3WFI3: just with broadcom, but thats because they're stiff with open-sourcing
[08:36] <DOOM_NX> zcat i agree
[08:36] <pen> threefcata: hi
[08:36] <n2diy> wbreslin951: Hmm, seems you answered your own question?
[08:36] <Starnestommy> sknh_: try http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[08:36] <wbreslin951> N3WFI3: but its the same with 32
[08:36] <blag> threefcata: gsynaptics
[08:36] <wbreslin951> n2diy: i thought it might be faster for one reason or another..
[08:36] <threefcata> pen:hi
[08:36] <sknh_> Starnestommy: thanks
[08:36] <macogw> blag: how does that answer his question?
[08:36] <Conartist> can anyone help me...my ubuntu system does not detect my soundcard ...but when i go on windows...everything is fine and dandy...
[08:36] <threefcata> blag: but isn't that for touchpad?
[08:37] <Conartist> i have dual boot
[08:37] <wbreslin951> n2diy: maybe cause ur comp to run as a virtual dual core? i dunno, im not to smart when it comes to hardware issues
[08:37] <Conartist> plssssss
[08:37] <macogw> blag: oh oops
[08:37] <macogw> blag: im reversing names.
[08:37] <n2diy> wbreslin951: I don't know, my hardware is 12 years old!
[08:37] <N3WFI3> should i go 64 bit or 32? im using core 2 duo
[08:37] <jmdc> after suspend to ram, I can't get the machine to come back up
[08:37] <blag> threefcata: oh, sorry, misread, my bad
[08:37] <zcat[1]> things like wireless stuff, flash, codecs were mostly only available for 32 bit and didn't work on 64 bit, but I'm running 64 bit now and not seeing any major problems
[08:37] <N3WFI3> i tnink 32 is fine
[08:37] <Conartist> can anyone help me...my ubuntu system does not detect my soundcard ...but when i go on windows...everything is fine and dandy...
[08:37] <Conartist> plsssss
[08:37] <quest-usb> this may be a lost cause but I need to either pass audio from a usb headset or the usb device itself to vmware workstation.  8.10 beta host, windows guest.  any ideas?
[08:37] <wbreslin951> n2diy: wow. thats like.. driving a 1930 model t lol
[08:37] <heymr> jmdc: it should suspend to SWAP dude
[08:37] <keiserr> macogw: i have a problem with a file on my local mirror, that's why i needed to download just that one file and let the installer use the local mirror rather than spend hours and hours trying to install via the net
[08:37] <blag> macogw: lol, np, you were correct in my situation anyway
[08:37] <DOOM_NX> N3WFI3, try both, whatever works better
[08:37] <linux_user400354> i tried to add a drive partition to an existing lvm and i dont see the extra space from it. http://rafb.net/p/eQ29id80.html
[08:37] <DOOM_NX> it's free afterall
[08:37] <DOOM_NX> :P
[08:37] <macogw> Conartist: if it's a Creative X-Fi we can't help you. they don't have drivers. Creative promised they'd release some this year, and then they backed down.
[08:37] <linux_user400354> anyone know about LVM?
[08:37] <threefcata> blag: it's ok
[08:37] <heymr> jmdc: try doing sudo pm-hibernate in a terminal
[08:38] <zcat[1]> N3WFI3: it seems core2duo is 64 bit.. I'd probably go for that.
[08:38] <threefcata> anyone knows how to adjust sensitivity of trackpoint on thinkpads?
[08:38] <Conartist> it s realtek...its not creative
[08:38] <n2diy> wbreslin951: I guess I have the Energizer Bunny inside?
[08:38] <wbreslin951> oh yeah.. how come when i try to hibernate my comp it doesn't work?
[08:38] <heymr> threefcata: gsynaptics
[08:38] <Conartist> realtek ac97
[08:38] <N3WFI3> is there a real advantage to using 64bit guys
[08:38] <macogw> Conartist: ok that was just warning to avoid anyone wasting time
[08:38] <zcat[1]> wbreslin951: 'cos power management is linux is still a mess :(
[08:38] <N3WFI3> lol
[08:38] <zcat[1]> *in
[08:38] <Jordan_U> n2diy, How dare you so blatantly defy planned obsolescence!
[08:38] <pen> threefcata: try touchpad part of ubuntu
[08:38] <wbreslin951> n2diy: lol yeah i guess so.. you know you can get a brand new dual core laptop with like a billion gigs for like.. $500
[08:38] <Conartist> so can you help me man
[08:38] <Conartist> ???
[08:38] <quest-usb> N3WFI3: NOT REALLY
[08:38] <heymr> wbreslin951: because hibernation is scary. use pm-hibernate?
[08:38] <Conartist> plss
[08:38] <hellonull> quest-usb: #ubuntu+1 for hardy-related support/discussion
[08:38] <pen> !touchpad
[08:38] <ubotu> For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[08:39] <pen> threefcata: !touchpad
[08:39] <macogw> keiserr: http://archive.ubuntu.com is where everything resides...but you'll need a web browser to muck your way through it
[08:39] <wbreslin951> heymr: doesn't that do the same thing as pressing the hibernate button in the menu?
[08:39] <quest-usb> hellonull: thanks
[08:39] <n2diy> Jordan_U: It isn't me, it is my wallet!
[08:39] <threefcata> heymr: again... isnt it for touchpad? u sure it works for trackpoint as well?
[08:39] <macogw> pen: he's not asking about a touchpad
[08:39] <N3WFI3> unless i had uber amounts of ram i think 32 is cool
[08:39] <threefcata> pen: ??
[08:39] <pen> macogw: it's somehow related i think
[08:39] <macogw> pen: clit mouse
[08:39] <Conartist> maco??? can you help me ?
[08:39] <Conartist> i gotta have some sound...:(((
[08:39] <jmdc> heymr: I thought suspend kept the data in memory, vs hibernate that wrote it out to the hard disk? Anyway, pm-utils isn't even installed (!)
[08:39] <zcat[1]> rofl... 'clit mouse'
[08:39] <Conartist> but i am a noob ....
[08:39] <wbreslin951> Conartist: wuts the problem
[08:39] <wbreslin951> zcat[1]: ur bad lmao
[08:40] <macogw> Conartist: nope. it's the wrong time of day for the the alsa dev that's usually here to pop up
[08:40] <wbreslin951> Conartist: whats goin rwrong with ur comp?
[08:40] <heymr> threefcata: oops. take a look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf. you can see the trackpoint config there. Maybe it can use the synaptics driver, then do man 5 synaptics and you can make it do all sorts of stuff. or add a speed option
[08:40] <Conartist> my ubuntu does not detect my soundcard
[08:40] <n2diy> wbreslin951: Ya, I know, but I can get five year old machines at auction for $100, like this one, that I picked up 7 years ago.
[08:40] <zcat[1]> also heard 'joy-nipple' earlier today
[08:40] <macogw> zcat[1]: like 90% of people dont know trackpoint's the right name.  but they know that slang name.
[08:40] <Conartist> i tried fetching drivers over the net
[08:40] <Conartist> but ....
[08:40] <heymr> jmdc: ok. well pm works the best for suspend/hibernate.
[08:40] <wbreslin951> n2diy: 5 yrs is sooo ancient tho, i mean computers are soo cheap nowadays and the performance is just amazing
[08:40] <threefcata> heymr: alright i guess i'll give it a shot..
[08:41] <heymr> threefcata: yup. first take a glance at the GUI.
[08:41] <Conartist> vbrestling...can you guide me....
[08:41] <Conartist> pls?
[08:41] <heymr> threefcata: of course, make a backup of xorg.conf first
[08:41] <macogw> heymr: ive done work on that GUI.  there's nothing on it specific to trackpoints for sure.
[08:42] <n2diy> wbreslin951: Yes, but this does everything I need to do, I don't need cutting edge, that is one reason I'm running Ubuntu/Linux.
[08:42] <zcat[1]> hate those things even more than touchpads..
[08:42] <heymr> macogw: oky
[08:42] <heymr> threefcata: look for your device in xorg.conf. then add "option" "SpeedAccel" "8" (not that! something of the looks)
[08:42] <threefcata> heymr: what do you mean by looking at gui?
[08:43] <jmdc> heymr: do I want the package uswsusp (recommended by pm-utils) too?
[08:43] <heymr> threefcata: nevermind. gsynaptics os only for touchpad.
[08:43] <macogw> heymr: AccelFactor is the synaptics name for acceleration
[08:43] <heymr> jmdc: sure
[08:43] <heymr> macogw: tell threefcata
[08:43] <heymr> macogw: does synaptics control trackpoints too?
[08:43] <macogw> heymr: and the gsynaptics in the repo doesnt do acceleration. only the svn one. thats why i worked on it
[08:44] <macogw> heymr: dont know. its a possibility.
[08:44] <macogw> threefcata: if synaptics can do your trackpoint, the name is AccelFactor
[08:44] <Conartist> does anybody know something about hardware problems here??????
[08:44] <Conartist> does anybody know something about hardware problems here??????
[08:44] <heymr> macogw: oh sorry. i'm on arch and it looks like it does.
[08:44] <wbreslin951> Conartist: wuts up?
[08:44] <LupoBluAlfa> YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[08:44] <Conartist> i ve sent you a private mess
[08:44] <jmdc> !ask | Conartist
[08:44] <ubotu> Conartist: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[08:44] <challenger> w00000
[08:45] <Conartist> ok
[08:45] <challenger> what the crap...
[08:45] <Conartist> here it goes again
[08:45] <LupoBluAlfa> YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[08:45] <wbreslin951> Conartist: i didn't get it.. just tell me whats goin on in here
[08:45] <macogw> heymr: ubuntu hasnt updated their gsynaptics package in like 2 years
[08:45] <Conartist> my ubuntu does not detect my soundcard
[08:45] <Conartist> my ubuntu does not detect my soundcard
[08:45] <heymr> macogw: yipes
[08:45] <Conartist> what soulg i do?
[08:45] <ekstelis> my wireless finally works !
[08:45] <wbreslin951> conartist: lspci and paste the output
[08:45] <jmdc> Conartist: please don't repeat yourself
[08:45] <heymr> Conartist: what kind of sound card
[08:45] <wbreslin951> !paste|conartist
[08:45] <ubotu> conartist: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[08:45] <Conartist> k
[08:45] <heymr> Conartist: run alsamixer in terminal
[08:45] <threefcata> macogw: so you are saying i try qsynaptics first?
[08:46] <sap> Hi, I don't know why but the sound in my system stopped working. I dont hear through IM or in game or even if I play video? I was thinking to restart the system but is there a command that can restart the sound files without restarting the system?
[08:46] <heymr> sap: alsamixer (run that command in a terminal)
[08:46] <Conartist> ok
[08:46] <sap> heymr, k I'm going to try that
[08:46] <Conartist> just a sec
[08:46] <wbreslin951> sap: sudo /etc/init.d/<whatever file it is> restart
[08:46] <Conartist> ok
[08:46] <n2diy> sap: read up on the "init" command.
[08:46] <ekstelis> macogw: thanks..... my wireless works now !
[08:46] <Conartist> now what?
[08:47] <ekstelis> you rule
[08:47] <macogw> threefcata: being q, it probably has like 50 billion options including acceleration, so sure!
[08:47] <wbreslin951> Conartist: what happens when u run alsamixer?
[08:47] <Conartist> comes up a mixer....
[08:47] <Conartist> in the terminal
[08:47] <Conartist> ...
[08:47] <heymr> Conartist: what does it say about your sound card
[08:47] <heymr> ...
[08:47] <wbreslin951> Conartist: theres the card, and the chip
[08:47] <heymr> hmmmm??
[08:47] <Conartist> HDA INTEL
[08:47] <wbreslin951> Conartist: what does it say for chip?
[08:47] <Conartist> Realtek ALC885
[08:47] <threefcata> macogw: ok i'm installing..
[08:47] <macogw> Conartist: ah yes, the standard that's not
[08:47] <heymr> Conartist: go over to External Amp and mute it
[08:47] <stefg> !intelhda | Conartist
[08:48] <ubotu> Conartist: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[08:48] <sailor_moon> hello
[08:48] <sailor_moon> there is somebody?
[08:48] <Conartist> so what shoulld i do now
[08:48] <Conartist> ...
[08:48] <wbreslin951> sailor_moon: theres plenty of people =]
[08:48] <Conartist> ?
[08:48] <heymr> sailor_moon: a few people in here
[08:48] <threefcata> macogw: no no synaptics driver discovered..
[08:48] <wbreslin951> !intelhda|conartist
[08:48] <ubotu> conartist: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[08:48] <sailor_moon> wow that's great :P
[08:48] <stefg> Conartist: read the howto ubotu gave you
[08:48] <sailor_moon> very well
[08:48] <Conartist> ok ok
[08:48] <sailor_moon> somebody here uses audacious?
[08:48] <heymr> threefcata: did you look at xprg.conf?
[08:48] <stefg> !enter | sailor_moon
[08:48] <ubotu> sailor_moon: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:48] <wbreslin951> sailor_moon: yeah
[08:48] <heymr> sailor_moon: i do
[08:49] <zcat[1]> audwhat?
[08:49] <kelvin911> hi my window bars are suddently gone
[08:49] <wbreslin951> sailor_moon: whats the trouble?
[08:49] <wbreslin951> zcat[1]: audacity
[08:49] <kelvin911> how to turn it on again?
[08:49] <sailor_moon> some can give me his own /.config/audacious/playlist.xspf?
[08:49] <sap> heymr, alsamixer didnt work .
[08:49] <stefg> kelvin911: compiz on nvidia ?
[08:49] <n2diy> Didn't Ubuntu change the "Init X" commands from the standard? I used to run Init 1, and then Init 5 to restart my system, but I think it was changed by Ubuntu?
[08:49] <kelvin911> yes
[08:49] <threefcata> heymr: no.
[08:49] <wbreslin951> wait,, audacious? never heard of it lol.. i use audacity tho
[08:49] <macogw> threefcata: i dont have any module name synaptics loaded either, so that might not mean anything.  really, the xorg.conf is probably the most umm...accurate?..way to be sure
[08:49] <sap> wbreslin951, n2diy is the file alsa-utils for sound?
[08:49] <macogw> threefcata: less levels of go-between
[08:50] <wbreslin951> sap: couldn't tell ya
[08:50] <wbreslin951> wait
[08:50] <wbreslin951> sap: yeah
[08:50] <zcat[1]> wbreslin951: yeah that's what I thought.. audacious is a player tho
[08:50] <ecrane> can someone please tell me where my VPN configurations are stored? I have the VPN configured via the network icon in the upper-right corner of the gnome screen. I'm looking for the config file...
[08:50] <sailor_moon> i need the /home/gne/.config/audacious/playlist.xspf file from somebody
[08:50] <n2diy> sap: don't know?
[08:50] <sap> wbreslin951, k I'll try to restart that
[08:50] <gluer_> does gutsy auto mount ipods?
[08:50] <wbreslin951> sap: is it in ur /etc/init.d ?
[08:50] <kelvin911> someone fix it "emerald --replace & disown"
[08:50] <sailor_moon> don't look at the "gne" :|
[08:50] <Alan_M> gluer_: yes it should
[08:50] <sap> wbreslin951, yes
[08:50] <wbreslin951> sap: cuz that sounds like a package, not an init.d file
[08:50] <zcat[1]> !info audacious
[08:50] <ubotu> audacious (source: audacious): Small and fast audio player which supports lots of formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.2-4 (gutsy), package size 976 kB, installed size 2956 kB
[08:50] <gluer_> Alan: cheers
[08:51] <heymr> sap: its just to make sure alsa is running and you can adjust volumes and stuff. maybe something is messed up with sound
[08:51] <macogw> ecrane: your .gconf i think
[08:51] <zcat[1]> just so we all know ..
[08:51] <macogw> ecrane: if you look with gconf-editor they should be in there somewhere
[08:51] <heymr> threefcata: you should at least look over your xorg.conf . you can tweak everything there
[08:51] <wbreslin951> sap: well anyways its sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[08:51] <Alan_M> gluer_: mine automounted mine with a default install...so...actually i can totally confirm that it does.
[08:51] <sailor_moon> please somebody can give me that file?
[08:51] <wbreslin951> gnight all.. got work in the marnin
[08:52] <ecrane> macogw: yeah ur right, thanks a lot!
[08:52] <Jester009> I'm trying to set up xubuntu on my compaq presario 1675 and it keeps getting stupid at Starting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd. anyone know any fixes?
[08:52] <jmdc> zcat[1]: its a fork of a fork of xmms, using gtk2
[08:52] <ecrane> :q!
[08:52] <ecrane> whoops hehe
[08:52] <n2diy> wbreslin951, 73
[08:52] <Jester009> stupid = stuck
[08:52] <sailor_moon> pleaaaaaaaase ;_;
[08:52] <heymr> sailor_moon: what file?
[08:52] <ekstelis> uhrm
[08:52] <sailor_moon> /home/----/.config/audacious/playlist.xspf
[08:53] <macogw> ecrane: you too, eh?
[08:53] <ekstelis> my video player says i dont have any codecs installed but i do
[08:53] <ekstelis> why are they not working ?
[08:53] <stefg> !codecs
[08:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:53] <macogw> ecrane: i do that in textboxes and in word processors :P
[08:53] <heymr> ekstelis: use mplayer or vlc
[08:53] <stefg> !cups | Jester009
[08:53] <ubotu> Jester009: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[08:53] <terminhell> im having problems finding a dock pluggin/option. i have compiz-fusion updated but i guess i missed something
[08:53] <sailor_moon> pleaseeeeeeeeee i will cry if nobody will help me
[08:53] <sap> wbreslin951, heymr n2diy  hmm.. looks like I'll have to try logging in again.. k ty for ur suggestions
[08:54] <pen> sailor_moon: why?
[08:54] <ecrane> macogw: can you tell me why I'm the only person I can find in the world who uses :x to leave VI instead of :wq
[08:54] <stefg> !patience | sailor_moon
[08:54] <ubotu> sailor_moon: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:54] <Alan_M> sailor_moon: please be patient
[08:54] <syncrondi> so is this just a big fre for all?
[08:54] <razor-x11> Yello
[08:54] <sailor_moon> because i'm stupid
[08:54] <n2diy> sap, GL
[08:54] <heymr> sailor_moon: what file???
[08:54] <akhilesh> hello ?
[08:54] <razor-x11> Hey? lol
[08:54] <macogw> ecrane: you used to use nano?
[08:54] <akhilesh> wassup razor
[08:54] <n2diy> syncrondi: no, ops are lurkiing, otherwise, yes.
[08:54] <Alan_M> !hi | akhilesh
[08:55] <sailor_moon> heymr this: /home/---/.config/audacious/playlist.xspf
[08:55] <ubotu> akhilesh: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:55] <razor-x11> wassup xD
[08:55] <zcat[1]> ecrane: I use :q!
[08:55] <akhilesh> hi Alan_M ubotu
[08:55] <zcat[1]> but then I'm only ever in vi because I forgot to set EDITOR
[08:55] <syncrondi> would anyone be willing to help me with a not too complex user permissions issue?
[08:55] <ecrane> macogw: once or twice, yeah.
[08:55] <razor-x11> No one has any problem's today? great =)
[08:55] <Jester009> stefg: I'm still quite lost even after looking at those sites. What can I do to get past this point?
[08:55] <sailor_moon> sigh sob
[08:55] <ecrane> zcat[1]: the :x will 'save and quit'
[08:56] <Alan_M> !ask | syncrondi
[08:56] <ubotu> syncrondi: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[08:56] <stefg> Jester009: is there a printer connected to the box?
[08:56] <Jester009> stefg: nope
[08:56] <zcat[1]> :q! will get me out of the editor without screwing anything up..
[08:56] <razor-x11> user/root issues?
[08:56] <heymr> sailor_moon: I don't know why you want it: but here it is: http://rafb.net/p/Ki94eS96.html
[08:56] <akhilesh> i just ditched windows xp last night and installed ubuntu .. so far so good i can do everything i need but i think i need to learn more about it .
[08:56] <ecrane> zcat[1]: heh, yeah
[08:56] <ieuan> cheese
[08:57] <ecrane> akhilesh: congratulations!
[08:57] <jim> syncrondi: ask your question already... then people would decide once they know what it is whether they even know how to help
[08:57] <akhilesh> thanks bro
[08:57] <Alan_M> akhilesh: congrats, what would you like to know?
[08:57] <zcat[1]> since I've usually done something weird by the time I realise I'm not in nano or joe..
[08:57] <stefg> Jester009: then you don't need cups. Disable it in System-Admin-startup services
[08:57] <n2diy> akhilesh: your in the right place then!
[08:57] <akhilesh> i need to learn more about xterm etc .. can i get some basic help
[08:57] <razor-x11> well goto https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ and learn away =)
[08:58] <Alan_M> !xterm | akhilesh
[08:58] <ubotu> akhilesh: If with all the cute terminals that are around you're still using xterm, then you deserve any problem you're experiencing with it. Go away.
[08:58] <ecrane> dang
[08:58] <Jester009> stefg: thanks i'll try that
[08:58] <razor-x11> lol
[08:58] <heymr> akhilesh: ls cd pwd su | grep sudo cp mv rm ls -a
[08:58] <Alan_M> dang, wasnt expecting that...so sorry!
[08:58] <stefg> Jester009: and check your bios for odd settings for the parallel port, if there is one
[08:58] <jaffarkelshac> akhilesh, usually you describe what you want to do and i and someone tells you, i swtiched recently myself
[08:58] <heymr> ;0
[08:58] <akhilesh> i thought u guys called the terminal window an xterm
[08:58] <sailor_moon> thank you!
[08:58] <syncrondi> I've got a few users on an Ubuntu server that are in the same group including myself. One of us gets permissions errors when he tries to SFTP or SCP files to the server (anywhere), but I have no issues.
[08:58] <razor-x11> i call it console lol
[08:58] <razor-x11> not term =)
[08:59] <Alan_M> its a console :)
[08:59] <sbingner> or "a terminal window"
[08:59] <sbingner> :p
[08:59] <akhilesh> heymr: yeah thats what i mean i need to know what all that does
[08:59] <razor-x11> ahh yes :
[08:59] <razor-x11> :P
[08:59] <Alan_M> or terminal window :)
[08:59] <jim> akhilesh: specific on-topic concise complete informative
[08:59] <razor-x11> akhilesh
[08:59] <akhilesh> ok so terminal window then
[08:59] <jim> socci! coming to a sock puppet show near you!
[08:59] <razor-x11> press TAB in the term/console window
[08:59] <razor-x11> and all the command's will pop up
[08:59] <DistroJockey> !bash | akhilesh
[08:59] <ubotu> akhilesh: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[08:59] <razor-x11> =)
[08:59] <sbingner> tab twice
[09:00] <razor-x11> i love tab and long commands =)
[09:00] <n2diy> syncrondi: check that they belong to the proper group, and are in the group
[09:00] <stefg> syncrondi: asked in #ubuntu-server also? can be a problem with the keys or known_hosts file
[09:00] <Alan_M> akhilesh, its basically your backbone for linux when things go BOOM
[09:00] <jmdc> akhilesh: X is the lowlevel graphics system, so an xterm is "terminal in x" - when it was first made putting a console in a window was a big deal so that gives you some idea how old it is ;-)
[09:00] <razor-x11> Alan_M, or the place you can have lot's off fun messing the system up til it's unbootable =)
[09:01] <Alan_M> razor-x11: yeah my girlfriend gave me a harsh lesson in that a month ago :(
[09:01] <sbingner> razor-x11, I thought that was the GUI 'configuration' tools
[09:01] <razor-x11> Lol!!!
[09:01] <akhilesh> ubotu thanks dude i think that url has all the stuff i need
[09:01] <razor-x11> Women....
[09:01] <jim> xterms were my first reason for running x... I liked shells...
[09:01] <razor-x11> Who need's them
[09:01]  * sbingner raises hand
[09:01] <sbingner> send 5 or 6 my way
[09:01] <razor-x11> if anyone is a women here, ignore that comment =)
[09:01] <DistroJockey> akhilesh: np ;)
[09:01] <jim> if you don't want yours, she can call me
[09:02] <Alan_M> hahaha
[09:02] <razor-x11> Lol
[09:02] <sbingner> jim, too late, I called dibs
[09:02] <razor-x11> il gladly give her away lol
[09:02] <Alan_M> were going off topic in here so yeah.
[09:02] <ecrane> akhilesh: think of it as another way to interact with the compute. Like launch programs, copy files.. all without a mouse. You do it with various commands.
[09:02] <razor-x11> Yeah lol
[09:02] <stefg> !cli
[09:02] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[09:02] <Alan_M> back to helping the users there folks :D
[09:02] <zcat[1]> bah.. I actually remember labs full of VT100's !!
[09:02] <jmdc> akhilesh: there are a lot of newer terminals than an xterm, that make it look more like a gnome or kde app, but sometimes people talk about xterm anyway, out of habit
[09:03] <razor-x11> like 'ls | diroutput.txt'
[09:03] <syncrondi> n2diy: $groups shows that they are all in the same group with no other group memberships
[09:03] <razor-x11> cat is show his/her age =)
[09:03] <Alan_M> razor-x11: wow.....i actually understood that and never used that command before.
[09:04] <threefcata> macogw: thx the gui tool actually works but you need to restart X in order to get the new setting working..
[09:04] <threefcata> thx
[09:04] <n2diy> syncrondi: do they have group permission?
[09:04] <zcat[1]> come to think of it, I even read my email on a teletype a few times, when the labfull of vt100's was full..
[09:04] <razor-x11> No problem Alan_M =)
[09:04] <RedScare> so what's with gnome power manager not being able to manage my lcd backlight brightness?
[09:04] <zcat[1]> I was born a year before ARPANET .. !
[09:04] <razor-x11> modules not loaded?
[09:04] <Jester009> how do i disable printing cups from the cd menu?
[09:05] <Alan_M> zcat[1]: so...that makes you....old?
[09:05] <RedScare> apparently this is common problem with the x3100 intel chipsets
[09:05]  * Alan_M hides
[09:05] <zcat[1]> not really...
[09:05] <razor-x11> lol
[09:05] <razor-x11> me finds Alan_M
[09:05]  * razor-x11 lol
[09:05] <n2diy> old is as one does.
[09:05] <RedScare> I had to get xbacklight and then keybind super+UP, super+down keys to increase and decrease percentage commands
[09:06] <stefg> Jester009: in the startup services control applet. it's in system-administration menu. uncheck the cupsys item
[09:06] <zcat[1]> .. I used to walk to the compuer lab barfoot in the snow.. and it was uphill both ways..
[09:06] <michael__> can someone help me get my onboard webcam working
[09:06] <Jester009> stefg: i have no idea where that is
[09:06] <stefg> !webcam | michael__
[09:06] <ubotu> michael__: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[09:06] <zcat[1]> sorry.. different rant
[09:06] <RedScare> michael, what program do you use to view your webcam?
[09:06] <syncrondi> n2diy: group is based from root, I've not set any specific permissions. One of the users can't WinSCP files to our home folder, but if he logs on as my user, he is able to
[09:06] <stefg> Jester009: you're using gnome, aren't you?
[09:06] <razor-x11> anyone looking into the xterm search for bash commands and script and read about them and you will understand.
[09:06] <michael__> see thats the thing i dont even know were to start
[09:07] <razor-x11> webcams?
[09:07] <razor-x11> gkcam
[09:07] <razor-x11> sudo apt-get install gkcam
[09:07] <Jester009> stefg: i actually have xp installed on this pc and i just booted it with xubuntu cd
[09:07] <Alan_M> whats the key combination to take a screenshot?
[09:07] <razor-x11> prnt
[09:07] <michael__> like were can i find my usb adress for the cam ?
[09:07] <razor-x11> top off the keybored
[09:07] <acollins> is anyone have trouble with "/usr/lib/dri/r300_dri.so: undefined symbol: _glapi_Dispatch" for ATI cards in hardy?
[09:07] <zcat[1]> webcams in linux are still a mess too.. v4l vs. v4l2 -- nothing ever works
[09:07] <razor-x11> lsusb
[09:07]  * Alan_M pops that key out...aparently its stuck :)
[09:07] <razor-x11> lol
[09:08] <razor-x11> shh alan =)
[09:08] <RedScare> v4l2 is the only thing that makes my Chiconey work
[09:08] <n2diy> syncrondi: what are the three permission groups? don't cheat, tell me now.
[09:08] <RedScare> eh hem, chiconey
[09:08] <RedScare> f me
[09:08] <razor-x11> normaly you will need to add a line to the xorg config to install a newer cam
[09:08] <RedScare> seriously, is it 3:08 am for anyone else
[09:08] <razor-x11> most logitech one's work out the box
[09:08] <Alan_M> for me
[09:08] <zcat[1]> n2diy: they're named after a japanese cartoon character..
[09:08] <stefg> Jester009: if you are running from Live CD switching it off doesn't make sense... the setting will be lost anyway
[09:08] <syncrondi> n2diy: rwx
[09:08] <jmdc> I installed pm-utils and uswsusp in an attempt to get suspend working. It didn't help (in fact my video mode after hibernate is wrong now too). When I try to wake up from suspend, I get the letters linu in yellow at the top of the screen, and nothing else happens.
[09:08] <RedScare> I have to be at work at 9
[09:09] <Survivorman> 4:08 here
[09:09] <Alan_M> 3 here
[09:09] <razor-x11> 8am here
[09:09] <razor-x11> =)
[09:09] <n2diy> zcat[1]: shhhhh!
[09:09] <razor-x11> coffee time i think's! =)
[09:09] <michael__> ok it says it cant find my device
[09:09] <n2diy> syncrondi: no that is only a third of it, rwxrwxrwx. Why are there three of the groups?
[09:10] <Jester009> stefg: I'm just trying to get xubuntu on this machine. There is nothing on it that I don't have backed up so this laptop is just for learning. How else can I get this working?
[09:10] <juane> alguien que me ayude
[09:10] <zcat[1]> rw-rw-rw- is satanic!!
[09:10] <stefg> Jester009: so the Live CD doesn't even boot?
[09:10] <razor-x11> micheal_ do dmesg and it will say if it has loaded the device or not
[09:10] <zcat[1]> well, octally anyhow
[09:10] <michael__> so go into my terminal dmesg
[09:11] <n2diy> zcat[1]: no -------- is satanic, been there, done that.
[09:11] <Jester009> stefg: it freezes at starting common unix printing cupsd
[09:11] <syncrondi> n2diy: I understand permissions, but I don't understand why one user would not be able to copy a file to their home folder
[09:11]  * razor-x11 cat is on to much caffine
[09:11] <stefg> Jester009: ah, now i understand. Can be a irq or acpi problem. try some bootoptions
[09:11] <RedScare> why does powernowd insist on disobeying me
[09:11] <stefg> !bootoptions | Jester009:
[09:12] <ubotu> Jester009:: For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[09:12] <zcat[1]> been helping a guy who distills his own liquor.. guess how he paid me :)
[09:12] <RedScare> and why does lsusb crash my terminal after plugging in my blackberry
[09:12] <razor-x11> cause if it's a root file or someone else's you need to do 'sudo -i ; chmod 775' or whatever it need's
[09:12] <juane> alguien me ayuda con el compiz fusion
[09:12] <n2diy> syncrondi: sorry, but I'm not sure you do, and that is what I'm trying to establish. Why do have rwx repeat three times?
[09:12] <michael__> [   17.024000] Linux video capture interface: v2.00
[09:12] <michael__> [   17.108000] uvcvideo: Found UVC 1.00 device USB2.0 Camera (5986:0100)
[09:12] <michael__> [   17.188000] usbcore: registered new interface driver uvcvideo
[09:12] <michael__> [   17.188000] USB Video Class driver (v0.1.0)
[09:12] <stefg> Jester009: my guess is that you'll need something along the lines of irqpoll or fixirq, or acpi=off
[09:12] <FloodBot2> michael__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:12] <c0mp13371331337_> Anyone in this channel running Windows and want to help me test a remote connection (VNC) support tool from my Ubuntu box?
[09:12] <Jester009> stefg: thanks. I think the reason its giving me problems is my BIOs dont meet the cutoff date by one year.
[09:12] <jmdc> juane: Lo siento, pero no hablo espanol. vaya a #ubuntu-es
[09:12] <stefg> Jester009: update it?
[09:13] <juane> gracias
[09:13] <n2diy> nada
[09:13] <razor-x11> micheal_, it has found the webcam download and complie amsn and try it on there, should work a treat.
[09:13] <syncrondi> n2diy: It's simple if you must know. It must establish permissions on the file for the owner, group, and all
[09:14] <michael__> how would i get it to wor through a webchat ?
[09:14] <n2diy> syncrondi: good, you understand.
[09:14] <syncrondi> n2diy: thanks for the credit :)
[09:15] <RedScare> Why does my USB Blackberry not have a device listing name under dmesg when I plug it in?
[09:15] <razor-x11> first off all you need to tell us what webcam make it is.
[09:15] <razor-x11> cause blackberry's are evil lol
[09:15] <zcat[1]> RedScare: 'cos it's busted? I dunno..
[09:15]  * razor-x11 note to self don't buy a new blackberry.
[09:15] <zcat[1]> anything USB should register something in dmesg...
[09:15] <razor-x11> Yep
[09:16] <RedScare> sorry, not quite ready to jump on the iboat
[09:16] <RedScare> it does
[09:16] <razor-x11> or!
[09:16] <razor-x11> for usb devices
[09:16] <RedScare> but it doesn't give me the assigned device name
[09:16] <razor-x11> do
[09:16] <razor-x11> 'cat /proc/bus/usb/devices'
[09:16] <ieuan> cheese
[09:16] <n2diy> syncrondi: So if root own the file only he can use his permission on it. And if the group has permissions they can too. and some individuals may or may not, and some groups may or may not. I think you need to check your permissions and groups etc...
[09:16] <zcat[1]> I don't know jack about blackberries
[09:17] <kelvin911> is it possible to select more than one window and move them at the same time?
[09:17] <N3WFI3> cant wait to try linux haha
[09:17] <N3WFI3> got the iso downloading in utorrent it wont get deleted this time
[09:17] <kelvin911> N3WFI3: gd for u
[09:17] <razor-x11> syncrondi, just load  nautilus in root easyest was for a newbe to linux to change permissions
[09:18] <razor-x11> 'gksudo  nautilus'
[09:18] <zcat[1]> bets on N3WFI3 burning three data CD's with a big .iso file on it before he gets a bootable disk..?
[09:18] <N3WFI3> lmao
[09:18] <razor-x11> right click on the folder/file's and goto permissions and change to the user you want and add read/write access
[09:19] <syncrondi> razor-x11: i'm working in ssh only on a remote system, not scared to use chmod shortcuts
[09:19] <pabix> Hello, how come Evolution sound notification has disappeared in Hardy?
[09:19] <razor-x11> syncrondi, Ohh i see.
[09:19] <zcat[1]> pabix: 'beta'  ?
[09:19] <pabix> I cannot configure it any more
[09:19] <pabix> zcat[1], yes
[09:19] <Survivorman> !hardy | pabix
[09:19] <ubotu> pabix: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[09:19] <razor-x11> where has Alan_M gone!
[09:20] <CracKPod> Hey :)
[09:20] <RedScare> I've got the Vendor and product ID needed from my usb devices
[09:20]  * razor-x11 pokes Alan_M ....
[09:20] <zcat[1]> lotsa stuff broken in hardy.. I really hope they fix it b4 april24 :)
[09:20] <N3WFI3> can i just burn the iso and it's bootable or do i need to add boot information with the burning software
[09:20]  * Alan_M jumps behind razor-x11 and pokes you
[09:20] <razor-x11> ahaha
[09:20] <razor-x11> =)
[09:20] <RedScare> trouble is the modem should be assigned something like /dev/ttyUSB0
[09:20] <RedScare> and its not
[09:20] <Alan_M> still here, was asking something in linutop about its price
[09:20] <zcat[1]> N3WFI3: 'burn image' it's on nero's file menu I think
[09:20] <jaffarkelshac> i am trying to use wireshark but it wont accept my device name. how do i find which it is.
[09:21] <aisya> allowww
[09:21] <damo22> N3WFI3: just burn the iso and it will work
[09:21] <Gnea> n2diy: yeah, it'll boot
[09:21] <razor-x11> was not dell shiping pc's with linux on?
[09:21] <Gnea> er
[09:21] <Alan_M> hello aisya, how may we help you today?
[09:21] <Gnea> N3WFI3: yeah, it'll boot
[09:21] <N3WFI3> ok cool thought so
[09:21] <Alan_M> razor-x11, yes, but from what ive heard, those things suck :/
[09:21] <n2diy> Gnea: wrong nick?
[09:21]  * Gnea checks his key finger
[09:21] <jim> World of the Modem... slash! bang! NO CARRIER! Coming to a theater near you!
[09:21] <Gnea> n2diy: yeah, sorry
[09:21] <zcat[1]> N3WFI3: you'd be surprised how many ppl can't figure it out... or perhaps not.
[09:21] <progmanos> i think you have to run wireshark as root
[09:21] <n2diy> Gnea: nada
[09:21] <kelvin911> anyone know how to select more than one window?
[09:22] <razor-x11> Alan_M, Yep, i heard the same lol, mostly crashy and buggy.
[09:22] <Gnea> n2diy: :)
[09:22] <kelvin911> and move them at the same time.  ie.  to different workspace?
[09:22] <N3WFI3> someone told me to use burnatonce program, this prog looks real nice should do the trick
[09:22] <razor-x11> And the fact that i hate dell's, =)
[09:22] <Alan_M> razor-x11: best to get a dell with windows and format it then put ubuntu on it :D
[09:22] <Alan_M> dude, your getting a dell! *rolls eyes*
[09:22] <jim> kelvin911: in what wm/dm?
[09:22] <razor-x11> =O
[09:22] <razor-x11> Never.
[09:22] <razor-x11> lol
[09:22] <kelvin911> what is wm/dm?
[09:22] <jim> I had great luck with dells
[09:23] <Survivorman> window manager
[09:23] <damo22> my dell laptop worked out of the box with ubuntu, even hibernate and suspend work fine
[09:23] <kelvin911> razor-x11: dell is pretty good at least better than HP, emachines, etc
[09:23] <Alan_M> jim, did you configure it yourself and take windows off yourself or did it come preinstalled with ubuntu?
[09:23] <Gnea> razor-x11: hope you've got a kiss-arse mode for dell, cuz without them, ubuntu wouldn't get sold on any commercial desktop ;)
[09:23] <razor-x11> Alan_M, I have 2 acer laptops and they have bin great for hardware compatibility
[09:23] <ensi> hello, i cant get my x server to work with the nvidia driver. as soon as i change the driver from "nv" to "nvidia" in the xorg.conf i get "ubunti is running in low graphics mode" and the res goes back to 800x600.
[09:23] <kelvin911> razor-x11: but of course i will build my own
[09:24] <razor-x11> But, DELL and UBUNTU is just wrong.
[09:24] <zcat[1]> You should buy with Linux if you can, even if you're planning to reinstall anyway... just so MSFT can't claim one more 'doze sale..
[09:24] <jim> Alan_M: preinstalled with windows xp, I put stuff on an external hd and grub on the internal drive
[09:24] <Alan_M> jim, good idea :D
[09:24] <Gnea> razor-x11: how so?
[09:24] <kelvin911> i dont know what window manager i am using, any idea?
[09:24] <N3WFI3> im gunna put on some mr noodle haha will be back
[09:24] <Alan_M> zcat[1]: never thought of it that way!
[09:24] <jim> I had to add a partition in the little (probably) one-cyl remaining room they didn't partition
[09:24] <razor-x11> Gnea, Cause, if you think off it IBM should have done it not, DELL.
[09:25] <Alan_M> zcat[1]: im gonna do that just to stick it to bill :D
[09:25] <Gnea> razor-x11: but IBM didn't, DELL did, end of story.
[09:25] <razor-x11> Gnea, You like dell?
[09:25] <kelvin911> razor-x11: IBM laptops are solid but they look ugly
[09:25] <Gnea> too bad, so sad, stop crying over spilled milk. :)
[09:25] <jim> ibm doesn't have great laptops for the price
[09:25] <syncrondi> n2diy: thanks for your help. I think I see the problem
[09:25] <jim> in fact they're horrible
[09:25] <Gnea> razor-x11: i used to work for them, they have an excellent support team.
[09:25] <n2diy> syncrondi: and???
[09:25] <razor-x11> Gnea, If so i know a great cyclogest =)
[09:26] <Gnea> razor-x11: and you work for who?
[09:26] <jim> clogiest?
[09:26] <n2diy> cyclogest?
[09:26] <syncrondi> -xr on grp
[09:26] <razor-x11> Gnea, Self employed
[09:26] <Gnea> razor-x11: oh, ok, so you don't have any real-world experience in that realm. huh..
[09:26] <n2diy> syncrondi: roger, GL
[09:27] <razor-x11> Gnea, Ok fair fight, Dell is ok on computers, just not great and making overclocked beasts
[09:27] <Alan_M> can we stop the bash fest? thanks :D
[09:27] <zcat[1]> Did you mean: cloggiest
[09:27] <kelvin911> jim: i mean IBM laptop quality are pretty good compare to like dell, sony, toshiba, HP, compaq, etc
[09:27] <Gnea> razor-x11: actually, have you seen the XPS 710? they made a water-cooled desktop unit (well, it sits better on the floor) that was built for overclocking.
[09:27] <razor-x11> Gnea, i repair computer system's, For a living so i might no a little.
[09:28]  * ecrane beats up his laptops so badly he's broken a toshiba, ibm, dell and compaq.
[09:28] <ecrane> Never got my hands on a sony yet...
[09:28] <Alan_M> ecrane, sony is pretty good
[09:28] <razor-x11> Gnea, Anyway we both have diffrent view's, best thing to do is bite are lips and agree =)
[09:28] <kelvin911> for laptop i like macbook pro or ASUS laptop
[09:29] <jim> kelvin911: when I got my first one, they wanted like $5000 for a laptop of not as good performance as the one I got from dell for half that
[09:29] <Gnea> razor-x11: been there, done that, and i can appreciate where you're coming from, but business economics don't always work the way we'd like them to :)
[09:29] <Unknownz> you still need to break an hp and you'll be eligible for a big prize!
[09:29] <Alan_M> ive had mine for close to 7 years, have hardly had any problems, moms had hers for 4 which is a dell...yeah....im gonna start something here so yeah gonna shut it :D
[09:29] <razor-x11> anyone got a asrock mobo here?
[09:29] <Gnea> razor-x11: agreed. :)
[09:29] <jim> the only thing I didn't like was it couldn't boot from cdrom
[09:29] <Survivorman> i heard tandy was a beast
[09:29] <razor-x11> Gnea,  Thank you =)
[09:29] <kelvin911> jim: that would be how long ago?
[09:29] <jim> long time.
[09:30]  * Alan_M just sits here whistling
[09:30] <kelvin911> one of my dell laptop is still surviving from 2003
[09:30] <jim> it had 80 mb ram, and that was a lot in those days
[09:30] <Gnea> kelvin911: my next laptop is gonna be a mac ;)
[09:30] <razor-x11> What's the best mobo with 64bit support for ubuntu do you think?
[09:30] <ecrane> I got a compaq laptop here that I can't figure out how to take apart. Those special tiny compaq screws.... torque wrench won't do it ;<
[09:30] <towlie_> i freaking love ubuntu
[09:30] <kelvin911> it was 5150 p4 3 GHz laptop, still can play doom at lowest setting
[09:30] <ieuan> cheese
[09:30] <nlindblad> Hi
[09:30] <kelvin911> i mean doom3
[09:30] <Alan_M> great towlie_ glad to hear
[09:30] <magnetron> lol kelvin911
[09:30] <razor-x11> Gota love doom
[09:30] <Alan_M> hello nlindblad
[09:31] <towlie_> i plugged in my iphone and imported my pictures without having to do any configurations....
[09:31] <razor-x11> and love the xbox360 =)
[09:31] <jim> razor-x11: thing is, the compilers don't do too well with 64b arch
[09:31] <towlie_> i expected to have to play with it a bit to get it to work
[09:31] <Gnea> razor-x11: i've got an MSI with a p4 3.0ghz dualcore that i built myself, it runs pretty nicely
[09:31] <BaD_CrC> razor-x11: i'm using a gigabyte ga-p35-ds3p for 64-bit goodness
[09:31] <razor-x11> jim, gcc and that you mean?
[09:31] <nlindblad> Anyone using a Dell Inspiron 1525?
[09:31] <jim> having said that, I got an asus m2npv-vm
[09:31] <kelvin911> if i have money my next laptop is macbook pro 17"
[09:31] <jim> and I'm running k7-compiled kernels on it
[09:31] <razor-x11> But, all around linux aka Ubuntu, work's well with all pc's
[09:32] <kelvin911> but if i dont then it will be either asus or dell
[09:32] <Gnea> now, if i could just remember the model # of the mobo, that just might help....
[09:32] <towlie_> kelvin911, ive got a 15" macbook pro and they are awesome
[09:32] <razor-x11> i remember way back when trying to get debain to work with 64 was a nightmare lol
[09:32] <towlie_> kelvin save up for the mac trust me its worth it
[09:32] <kelvin911> towlie_: i love mac stuffs although i never own one, i play some at school and my friend's room
[09:32] <jim> I'm not sure either asus or dell likes linux too much
[09:32] <Gnea> razor-x11: same here, i gave up and went ubuntu
[09:32] <towlie_> kelvin911, im running ubuntu 7.10 on it and it works really nicely on it
[09:32] <razor-x11> Gnea, Yep
[09:32] <kelvin911> ubuntu on mac?
[09:32] <towlie_> yes
[09:32] <BaD_CrC> razor-x11: debian works great with 64-bit, but that's offtopic for here.
[09:32] <kelvin911> i thought the OSX is awesome
[09:32] <towlie_> are you familiar with bootcamp  ?
[09:33] <towlie_> kelvin it is
[09:33] <razor-x11> Gnea, Support was terrible, and no one cared for it at the time no games and apps worked on 64, on server tools.
[09:33] <kelvin911> towlie_: no i dont
[09:33] <towlie_> levin but i am using bootcamp cause compiz fusion is awesome
[09:33] <kelvin911> towlie_: i never own a mac
[09:33] <towlie_> kelvin911, it lets you dual boot osx and windows
[09:33] <ecrane> not trying to start a flamefest, but spend the extra $$$ for mac hardware if you're not going to run osx?
[09:33] <kelvin911> towlie_: i am one of those poor people try to survive
[09:33] <towlie_> kelvin911, but you can install linux
[09:33] <kelvin911> towlie_: why boot windows?
[09:33] <razor-x11> BaD_CrC, We are talking about year's ago not the present!
[09:33] <ecrane> that is, WHY spend the extra $$$?
[09:33] <kelvin911> towlie_: i only use windows for gaming now
[09:34] <BaD_CrC> razor-x11: yeah, i remember the days.... :(
[09:34] <towlie_> ecrane, i run osx 90% of the time...
[09:34] <N3WFI3> razor
[09:34] <razor-x11> Wine or TransGaming?
[09:34] <ecrane> I only use Ubuntu linux for gaming now ^^. Wine works pretty good
[09:34] <n2diy> CUL, 73
[09:34] <jim> ecrane: that -is- a good point... plus can't macos run on plain intel hardware?
[09:34] <N3WFI3> i got asrock hahahah , its a 775 dual vsta
[09:34] <hp> anyone knows how to delete teh window decorations for pidgin?
[09:34] <razor-x11> N3WFI3, ?
[09:34] <kelvin911> ecrane: but wine cant play all games
[09:34] <ChaosParser> kelvin911: Jim is misinformed... Dell sells computers with Ubuntu installed.
[09:34] <zcat[1]> apple hardware is pretty solid.. even if you're not running osx.. old apple g3 mac was the best machine I ever ran ubuntu on..
[09:34] <razor-x11> N3WFI3, Don't get me started on vista. =)
[09:34] <kelvin911> ecrane: and almost 99% of the games i got are privated so cant play in wine
[09:34] <towlie_> dell is not that great... overpriced imo
[09:35] <ChaosParser> zcat[1]: That was true until they went intel.
[09:35] <magnetron> hp: you would have to use devilspie or similar to remove the window decorations for a gtk app
[09:35] <kelvin911> ChaosParser: i know dell sold linux desktop preinstalled
[09:35] <nlindblad> I could get an Inspiron 1525 with 10% off
[09:35] <nlindblad> Worth it?
[09:35] <ChaosParser> towlie_: Yeah, sure.  I can see how sub 600 notebooks with 2 gigs of ram are overpriced...
[09:35] <towlie_> ChaosParser, not true its been better since they switched to intel
[09:35] <Unknownz> yeah dell is sometimes overpriced
[09:35] <hp> thanks magnetron
[09:35] <razor-x11> Anyone here got a x360 with ubuntu power pc on it?
[09:35] <N3WFI3> u asked along time ago if anyone got asrock
[09:35] <ecrane> One time I was at a lan party and got a windows game running in wine faster then the guy who had vista. It was pretty awesome.
[09:35] <N3WFI3> why the ?
[09:35] <N3WFI3> lol
[09:35] <BaD_CrC> nlindblad: since i work for dell, i'd say sure. :)
[09:35] <jim> ChaosParser: I refer you to one of michael dell's choice comments at one of the keynotes at a linux world expo
[09:35] <Unknownz> their value/quality ratio is not that good
[09:36] <kelvin911> anyone got asus laptop?
[09:36] <razor-x11> yep
[09:36] <ChaosParser> jim: I've worked for Dell.  I've installed linux on more of their models than you've likely seen, ever.
[09:36] <zcat[1]> ChaosParser: well, I don't know.. I'd have to play with an intel mac sometime..
[09:36] <Gnea> Dell sold desktops with Redhat on the desktop back in 2000.  It failed, so they sold servers with redhat on it and stayed with Windows.  Last year, they gave Ubuntu a shot.
[09:36] <kelvin911> i only trust asus motherboard now
[09:36] <jim> ChaosParser: did I say it won't install? :)
[09:36] <razor-x11> acer laptop with a asus dual core 1.8ghz each
[09:36] <razor-x11> asus are great mobo's
[09:36] <zcat[1]> kelvin911: current lappy is asus... only got 256M ram in it tho so it sucks bigtime..
[09:36] <magnetron> kelvin911: and i only trust you
[09:36] <N3WFI3> isnt asrock owned by asus
[09:36] <N3WFI3> or something
[09:36]  * BaD_CrC is waiting for the public announcement of dell's so-called eeepc killer
[09:37] <tobmaif> so hi can i ask a question or what
[09:37] <kelvin911> zcat[1]: i will never buy laptop that has 256MB only, not even in 2002
[09:37] <mehmet> slm
[09:37] <zcat[1]> I think it would be pretty good if it had like 512M even.. or a gig
[09:37] <ChaosParser> jim: Your arguement that dell 'doesn't like' linux is baseless.  They sell it.  Michael Dell uses Ubuntu on one of his notebooks, with the expection of the Optiplex 320 which has a borked sata controller, they all run Ubuntu pretty damned well.
[09:37] <jim> tobmaif: What!
[09:37] <ChaosParser> jim: *exception
[09:37] <tobmaif> jim:  what do you want?" the speaker
[09:37] <kelvin911> zcat[1]: for laptop u want more ram than usual
[09:37] <razor-x11> zcat[1], Depends on the mobo if it can handle a gig
[09:37] <kelvin911> zcat[1]: if running xp
[09:37] <jim> ChaosParser: so they're changing their mind
[09:37] <zcat[1]> kelvin911: I didn't buy it.. I got given it after the guy who had it upgraded, and he flogged half the ram for his new lappy :)
[09:38] <kelvin911> zcat[1]: nice
[09:38] <razor-x11> Who here has a dual boot ubuntu and xp?
[09:38] <jim> they're allowed, I suppose... I guess it was the changing market that convinced them
[09:38] <zcat[1]> kelvin911: well, I can't really complain :)
[09:38] <kelvin911> i just got a desktop for $300
[09:38] <michael__> i did razor why?
[09:38] <Gnea> jim: dell and linux have been getting along just fine for over a decade, what are you smoking? :)
[09:39] <razor-x11> Gnea, He is probly smoking the same as me, i hate dell rollups lol
[09:39] <ChaosParser> Gnea: He strikes me as parrotting BS he doesn't understand.
[09:39] <Gnea> ChaosParser: you and I are on the same page.
[09:39] <Gnea> razor-x11: lol
[09:39] <razor-x11> Gnea, Or maybe a pipe.
[09:40] <razor-x11> Who knows.
[09:40] <razor-x11> lol
[09:40] <Gnea> :)
[09:40] <jim> I'm not saying I hate anything. the fact is dell hardware usually works pretty well, and installs linux as well as anything you can build yourself
[09:40] <kelvin911> asus P5ND2-SLI, p4 dual core 3.2 GHz, 1 GB ram, WD ATA 250 GB, geforce 7600 GT 256 MB, LG dvdram, for $300
[09:40] <BaD_CrC> ubuntu works great on my old dell latitude d610 laptop. some people had lots of problems with it.
[09:40] <ChaosParser> jim: Yes, and?
[09:40] <jim> I still want a scsi laptop :P
[09:40] <BaD_CrC> the obligatory !wfm
[09:40] <kelvin911> and the case is really nice and fasionable
[09:40] <razor-x11> I think building a pc is alot more wirth while and saves money half the time
[09:40] <ChaosParser> BaD_CrC: Anyone that has issues with the business line running linux from dell is likely an idiot.  They usually have RedHat drivers at support.dell.com
[09:40] <kelvin911> with all in one memory card reader
[09:41] <Gnea> i think the only dynamic that dell adheres to that annoys most people is its dependence on proprietary hardware
[09:41] <zcat[1]> I'm seeing a trend in 'build for vista' hardware though.. the seem to pick all the really non-standard propriatory stuff that doesn't work well with linux
[09:41] <jim> razor-x11: originally I didn't save much at all building... I picked better parts and more expensive ones usually
[09:41] <razor-x11> Gnea, Well dell has more money in it's bank account then me, Maybe that's why i hate them?
[09:41] <BaD_CrC> ChaosParser: yeah, i know. and the good stuff at linux.dell.com/repo
[09:41] <jim> but this last machine was pretty cost-effective
[09:42] <ChaosParser> Gnea: What proprietary hardware??
[09:42] <Gnea> razor-x11: but that's because michael dell saw a grand opportunity that most everyone else did not and went for it
[09:42] <jim> razor-x11: who's fault is that?!
[09:42] <razor-x11> jim, i goto to local computer fair and get the gear most sell it on for 3/4 off the retail price
[09:42] <razor-x11> It's my fault...
[09:42]  * razor-x11 hang's head in shame.
[09:42] <razor-x11> lol =)
[09:43] <nobbi> Hi @ all
[09:43] <ChaosParser> jim: What are you smoking?  The only real mainstream components that are Vista designed are the Direct X 10 video cards..
[09:43] <BonezAU> hi. o
[09:43] <BaD_CrC> razor-x11: are you trying to say that dell is the microsoft of computer makers?!?  i highly don't think so. but since i work for dell, i'm biased. :)
[09:43] <nobbi> I need some help
[09:43] <ChaosParser> And the intel memory expansion shit.
[09:43] <kelvin911> is directx 10 that good?
[09:43] <jim> who said anything about vista?! I didn't...
[09:43] <zcat[1]> ahh well, I mostly live off donated hardware, by the time I get it Linux support is pretty good :)
[09:43] <ChaosParser> BaD_CrC: Support?
[09:43] <kelvin911> i am afraid the future games need vista to run them
[09:43] <BonezAU> hi, i'm having problems installing *any* firefox extensions. More details at http://pastebin.com/m1d6dcad6 - anyone come across this before. I'm using the latest FF2 from the repos.
[09:43] <jim> people around here ought to read more comprehensively...
[09:43] <razor-x11> is it take a stabb at me to today?
[09:43] <sluimers> upgrading to 8.04 isn't working :(, I can't download the upgrades as I get 403 Forbidden errors... what can I do? I need that upgrade.
[09:43] <nobbi> I can't mount my sd card on my eee pc
[09:43] <razor-x11> =/
[09:43] <BaD_CrC> ChaosParser: i work in the Managed Services division on a contract with Boeing.
[09:44]  * razor-x11 hides with Alan_M 
[09:44] <jim> nobbi: why?
[09:44] <maek> yay the IRC server is back up ... cheers guys
[09:44] <Gnea> ChaosParser: most of it is - the memory, for instance, has issues when swapped into/out of non-dell motherboards. it might work for a bit, but a small timing glitch can create a skew that will fry something, somewhere... about the only things worth trying to upgrade on your own (sans a warranty) are the PCI/AGP cards, cd drives and hard drives - and the HDs are iffy, especially if the backup support is wanted.
[09:44] <ChaosParser> BaD_CrC: Hah. Nice.  I used to love Boeing calls.  I'm former CNG and SMB Opti/Lat support
[09:44] <nobbi> I dont know
[09:44] <ChaosParser> BaD_CrC: * CBG
[09:44] <Cahan> nobbi, http://www.eeeuser.com/ is pretty helpful
[09:44] <nobbi> When ever I try it won't work
[09:44] <BaD_CrC> ChaosParser: sweet, so we are pretty much on the same page. :)
[09:44] <stefg> sluimers: a.) there might be a server sync in progress b.) any proxy involved? c.) hardy is beta and has issues, do you know how to fix ubuntu when it breaks?
[09:45] <ChaosParser> Gnea: Dell memory bought new or with a system carries a lifetime warranty...
[09:45] <jim> nobbi: if you can find out, it will help you with the solutio
[09:45] <kelvin911> dell uses what memory?
[09:45] <ani1> !hi
[09:45] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:45] <kelvin911> generic?
[09:45] <zcat[1]> daylight wasting time.. gotta go set some clocks back
[09:45] <ChaosParser> sluimers: You want Ubuntu +1
[09:45] <nobbi> I can't change sdb1 cd rom
[09:45] <sluimers> stefg, a) what does that mean? b) no c) no
[09:45] <gluer> i set my clocks back 6am
[09:46] <sluimers> Ubuntu +l?
[09:46] <kelvin911> where u guys from?
[09:46] <Gnea> ChaosParser: i'm talking about someone who doesn't understand the concept and just goes out to find the quickest, cheapest solution - if the warranty isn't transferred properly then you're stuck
[09:46] <kelvin911> US or canada?
[09:46] <BaD_CrC> #ubuntu+1
[09:46] <jim> kelvin911: yes
[09:46] <ChaosParser> Gnea: And that is the company's problem, why?
[09:46] <kelvin911> anyone from vancouver?
[09:46] <Cahan> kelvin911, probably all over the world
[09:46] <stefg> sluimers: the mirror-servers for the repos need to get their sync... they go offline for that
[09:46] <Gnea> ChaosParser: who said it was? :)
[09:46] <sknh_> what are the files in /var/log/mysql/mysql.bin.* contain?
[09:46] <sluimers> thanks Bad_crc
[09:46] <sknh_> are they important or they just logs?
[09:47] <cvasilak> hi there, is there any way i can tell vim to show the encoding of the file being edited on the status line?
[09:47] <weltschmerz> after recently buying a mac book, i plug my ubuntu machine in and do some upgrades and...wow.  hardy is making me kind of regret spending 1400 bucks on a mac.
[09:47] <gluer> melbourne, australia
[09:47] <jim> sknh_: probably files... and maybe some directories...
[09:47] <stefg> !hardy | sluimers
[09:47] <ubotu> sluimers: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[09:47] <kelvin911> weltschmerz: why?  ubuntu is better than OSX?
[09:47] <weltschmerz> san francisco here.
[09:47] <sknh_> I want to free space
[09:47] <Tobbsn> munich here
[09:47] <sknh_> and this folder has around 1GB of data
[09:47] <stefg> sluimers: and a word of advice. Take a backup before you upgrade, or consider waiting for the release if you ar no ubuntu-pro
[09:47] <sknh_> just wondering if it can be deleted
[09:48] <jim> I'd be very careful in there
[09:48] <weltschmerz> kelvin911 not overall, but it's sooo much better now with all the pretty u.i. tweaks.  it's so close that the cost makes it painful.
[09:48] <BaD_CrC> i'm getting ready to reboot for hardy upgrade here shortly. whee.
[09:48] <kelvin911> weltschmerz: how pretty?
[09:48] <weltschmerz> once pulseaudio is more equivalent to coreaudio, and gnome has some better icon and theme sets, i think ubuntu will start being competitive with mac.
[09:48] <Cahan> is it worth upgrading from 7.04 to 7.10 via apt-get dist-upgrade?
[09:48] <kelvin911> i think OSX is already looks very good!
[09:48] <weltschmerz> well...not as perty as osx.
[09:48] <ChaosParser> Gnea: I used to hate that.  Freaking backwoods idiots that buy a 7 year old notebook, that happens to be from the business line, know nothing about it and expect support for the hacked copy of windows XP they just forced onto it somehow.
[09:48] <weltschmerz> it does.
[09:49] <weltschmerz> ubuntu doesn't.
[09:49] <kelvin911> weltschmerz: except maybe it doesnt have cube
[09:49] <weltschmerz> once ubuntu catches up just a bit, it will be competitive.
[09:49] <BaD_CrC> Cahan: that's what i did
[09:49] <jim> Cahan: you get 0.06!! of course it's worth it!
[09:49] <sluimers> stefg, I just got a clean install on my new computer and found out the USB network card will only work on Heron
[09:49] <weltschmerz> kelvin911 i'm saying that OS X exceeds linux/gnome at present.
[09:49] <ChaosParser> weltschmerz: Hardy can be as pretty as OSX.
[09:49] <weltschmerz> but that the gap is closing.
[09:49] <sluimers> so thatś why
[09:49] <weltschmerz> ChaosParser i highly doubt that.
[09:49] <ChaosParser> weltschmerz: Hardy can look exactly like OSX.  And doesn't get hacked in 3 minutes.
[09:49] <Gnea> ChaosParser: same here, until i learned about the "other" entry :)
[09:49] <stefg> sluimers: what model is that?
[09:49] <weltschmerz> there are just elements of the consistent cocoa ui that are astonishing.
[09:50] <Gnea> pop it in void, zip it up, go to lunch
[09:50] <weltschmerz> and hibernation and power management with my macbook astounds me.
[09:50] <ChaosParser> weltschmerz: http://www.taimila.com/?q=node/11
[09:50] <kelvin911> ubuntu need to make a theme that is 99.9% like OSX
[09:50] <weltschmerz> that still wouldn't be the same.
[09:50] <sluimers> stefg, model computer or USB network adapter?
[09:50] <Cahan> talking about OSX UI always makes me hungry for chocolate :S
[09:50] <mettao87> hi
[09:50] <BaD_CrC> kelvin911: look on http://gnome-look.org/
[09:50] <stefg> sluimers: network adapter
[09:50] <kelvin911> BaD_CrC: i did
[09:50] <ChaosParser> kelvin911: There's a tutorial here: http://www.taimila.com/?q=node/11
[09:50] <jim> so osx makes you fat? :)
[09:50] <Gnea> kelvin911: why don't you just install vmware and boot OSX that way? :)
[09:51] <sluimers> USB is a WL-182 I think from sitecom, lemme check
[09:51] <weltschmerz> with the new u.i., how do i cycle backwards through windows?
[09:51] <kelvin911> Gnea: i dont have osx
[09:51] <mettao87> can someone advise to me a repositories list for ubuntu studio gusty
[09:51] <SwissPhoenix>  Hi there, I just toying around with hardy and noticed that any eth interface other than eth0 is being renamed to eth#_rename. I tried adding more interfaces to the 70-persistent-net.rules file, but that does not the trick....
[09:51] <Gnea> kelvin911: so go find it
[09:51] <kelvin911> Gnea: is there a way to download it?
[09:51] <zcat[1]> i made kde look just like osx once, but apparenty it didn't behave like osx.. kinda hard since I never used osx :)
[09:51] <Gnea> kelvin911: yes.
[09:51] <kelvin911> Gnea: where?
[09:51] <zcat[1]> gnome isn't really configurable enough
[09:51] <Gnea> kelvin911: that information is considered off-topic. google.com is the best place to start, though.
[09:51] <michael__> my computer wont let me install vmware
[09:51] <michael__> =((
[09:51] <sluimers> I read in a dutch Ubuntu forum someone got WL-181 working in Heron after trying everything else
[09:52] <kelvin911> Gnea: i never use vmware
[09:52] <Cahan> SwissPhoenix, #ubuntu+1
[09:52] <sluimers> and since theyŕe pretty similair...
[09:52] <ChaosParser> zcat[1]: What crack are you smoking? I use gnome and the only thing on my desktop at the moment is the Avant dock.
[09:52] <kelvin911> Gnea:  can u run xp in vmware?
[09:52] <jim> xen is pretty good
[09:52] <Gnea> kelvin911: yes.
[09:52] <kelvin911> Gnea: how good?
[09:52] <kelvin911> Gnea: can u play games thru it?
[09:52] <tobmaif_> so hi can i ask a question or what
[09:52] <Gnea> kelvin911: very good. yes.
[09:52] <Creationist> Is it possible to have Sound Juicer rip CDs faster?  Right now it's only reading at 4.5x for some reason.
[09:52] <zcat[1]> ChaosParser: well, I never found it configureable enough :)
[09:52] <SwissPhoenix> Cahan: tnx
[09:52] <jim> what?
[09:52] <Gnea> !ask | tobmaif_
[09:52] <ubotu> tobmaif_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[09:52] <kelvin911> Gnea: so how does vmware work?
[09:53] <kelvin911> Gnea: install it and it will run the winxp i have on my C:\?
[09:53] <eth01> kelvin911: it virtually runs an OS.
[09:53] <stefg> !virtualizers
[09:53] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[09:53] <eth01> in simple terms
[09:53] <ChaosParser> kelvin911: OpenGL and 3D acceleration won't work in VMWare... so games taht requie it won't run properly since it doesn't have direct access to your video card.
[09:53] <Creationist> kelvin911: Just a word of warning and I just got here so I don't know all that you're asking, but using VMware or VirtualBox to play games isn't very good because they don't allow you to use 3D acceleration (so your graphics card isn't supported).
[09:53] <Gnea> kelvin911: you install it, run it, create a virtual disk and use real or virtual hardware to interface with it - basically it's a whole computer running on your desktop
[09:54] <ChaosParser> Creationist: Owe me a beer. :-p
[09:54] <weltschmerz> creationist: where's the creator?
[09:54] <Gnea> kelvin911: your best bet there is to visit vmware.com and ask in #vmware
[09:54]  * Creationist slides a beer down to ChaosParser even though his own explanation was more grammatically correct ;)
[09:54] <jim> unless you provide full access to the hardware
[09:54] <weltschmerz> i sure haven't observed any intelligent entities besides humans.
[09:54] <kelvin911> Gnea: so basically u cant run games on vmware
[09:54] <Creationist> !off-topic | weltschmerz
[09:54] <ubotu> weltschmerz: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:54] <weltschmerz> lol.
[09:54] <Creationist> kelvin911: No games that you'd want to run, no.
[09:54] <ChaosParser> Creationist: Yes, but you forgot to mention OpenGL.
[09:55] <weltschmerz> defensive.
[09:55] <Gnea> Creationist: funny, i've gotten GL-based games to run just fine in vmware
[09:55]  * Creationist sits in shame to ChaosParser's obvious dominance here :)
[09:55] <kelvin911> doom3, quake4 are they openGL or?
[09:55] <weltschmerz> of course, it's easy to be defensive when you support something so astoundingly anti-scientific as creationism.
[09:55] <Creationist> Gnea: Hmm... well, GL-based games run just fine under linux itself ;)
[09:55] <Creationist> kelvin911: Yes, they are... but they have native Linux version too, though.
[09:55] <ChaosParser> Gnea: They may work, but not as they would...
[09:55] <alkisg> Hi guys. On my laptop which acts as an ltsp server (ubuntu hardy), if I press Fn+Left arrow key to turn down the screen brightness, a (software) popup window is displayed that shows the brightness. The problem is that the LTSP clients also see this window!!! Any clues on where to report this bug? (or how to fix it?)
[09:56] <jim> kelvin911: I run doom3 and quake4, they use the hw accel of the card
[09:56] <Gnea> Creationist: that's not the point, the point is that you made a statement that is false and i was correcting that oversight
[09:56] <jim> and its driver
[09:56] <xukun> I finally got the fonts rendering right in ubuntu. My fonts is now more sharper and better for the eyes. If anybody wants this I can help
[09:56] <kelvin911> Creationist: i cant get them working on linux, i dont have valid cdkey
[09:56] <yao_ziyua1> is there any easy way to clean up obsolete config files?
[09:56] <yao_ziyua1> those .* in my user directory
[09:56] <gluer> play Sauerbraten!! YA YA ;-)
[09:56] <weltschmerz> i thought some recent benchmarks showed some nvidia card doing best in linux.
[09:56] <Creationist> Gnea: Hmm... I've never heard of anyone running ANY 3D games in a virtual machine... but even if they could, performance issues would almost always make it undesirable.
[09:56] <gluer> sorry jar jar
[09:56] <yao_ziyua1> also, "downloader for x" often leave incomplete downloads as .*
[09:56] <zcat[1]> saurbraten sucks.. play urban terror 4.1
[09:56] <Gnea> ChaosParser: it depends on how good the hardware is
[09:56] <Creationist> kelvin911: Then try purchasing the game first.
[09:57] <weltschmerz> if you want an OS for gaming, buy an XBOX.
[09:57] <ChaosParser> Gnea: Well yeah.  If you're running a virutal OS with a couple quad core processors, sure.
[09:57] <ChaosParser> Gnea: On the average consumer computer, not so much.
[09:57] <kelvin911> so if u cant play games on vmware whats the point of running xp under vmware?
[09:57] <Gnea> Creationist: well, until you've tried it yourself, i suggest against spouting an opinion that is baseless. :)
[09:57] <jim> xboxes and ps3s are too expensive for what they are
[09:57] <Creationist> kelvin911: Most people run XP in a virtual machine for other software... business applications and such.
[09:57] <ChaosParser> Gnea: I can install and launch say, WoW or City of Heroes in a virtual environment... But the graphics and lag is laughable.
[09:57] <kelvin911> Creationist: ok
[09:58] <Creationist> Gnea: My research isn't baseless.  I don't need to try everything to know what research shows.
[09:58] <zcat[1]> virtual machine != wine
[09:58] <Creationist> Gnea: But if it worked for you, then great.... but suggesting it to someone else is a very bad idea when the VAST majority of experts say it can't be done.
[09:58] <gluer> Sauerbraten rocks man
[09:58] <ChaosParser> jim: Not really.  The Ps3 allows another OS to be installed, and has a rather remarkable processor.
[09:58] <p1r4t3> hi, i am relatively new to linux, and i have installed linux on my laptop. the sound worked for a while, until today. the ubuntu install cd makes the sound card work, but the installed ubuntu does not. I am not shure how to un-install the sound drivers and re-install them with linux and i was wondering if someone could help. thanx.
[09:58] <Gnea> Creationist: did you know that it's possible to boot OSX in vmware?
[09:59] <Creationist> Gnea: Never had any desire to do so personally.
[09:59] <kelvin911> Creationist: thats funny that when i was still in university i need to instal cygwin to do my computer assignments and math research stuffs
[09:59] <tobmaif> so hi can i ask a question or what
[09:59] <Creationist> !ask | tob
[09:59] <ubotu> tob: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[09:59] <zcat[1]> nah; UrT4.1, tremulous, or WoP are way better that Saurbraten
[09:59] <Gnea> Creationist: so what would your area of expertise be with?
[09:59] <Creationist> Gnea: My area of expertise is ignoring elitist little jerks on IRC :P
[09:59] <kelvin911> but now i am running real unix system and i need virtual machine to play games
[10:00] <ChaosParser> Gnea: Why wouldn't it be possible?
[10:00] <Gnea> Creationist: i was referring to real-world application. thanks for the answer though :)
[10:00] <ChaosParser> kelvin911: What games do you play?
[10:00]  * zcat[1] wonders what Creationist uses to read his email..
[10:00] <Creationist> kelvin911: Then I wish you the best of luck.  Everything I've learned while trying to do the same has shown me it can't be done effectively.  So I keep WIndows installed alongside.
[10:00] <kelvin911> ChaosParser: many
[10:00] <sknh_> where can I find the mysql config file on 7.10/
[10:00] <kelvin911> ChaosParser: recently i play ET mostly
[10:00] <sknh_> is it /etc/mysql/my.cnf ?
[10:00] <Creationist> zcat[1]: Pardon?
[10:00] <ChaosParser> kelvin911: First person shooters or MMORPGs?
[10:00] <p1r4t3> could anyone direct me to someone that could help me?
[10:01] <gluer> kelvin: mate just dual boot you'll never get decent gaming performance in a vm
[10:01] <kelvin911> ChaosParser: i dont play rpg
[10:01] <zcat[1]> Creationist: the default email client in ubuntu, or something different?
[10:01] <Creationist> zcat[1]: I use Gmail, actually.
[10:01] <Conartist> root@Conartist:/usr/src/alsa/alsa-driver-1.0.16# sudo make install
[10:01] <Conartist> if [ -L /usr/include/sound ]; then \
[10:01] <Conartist>                 rm -f /usr/include/sound; \
[10:01] <Conartist>                 ln -sf /usr/src/alsa/alsa-driver-1.0.16/include/sound /usr/include/sound; \
[10:01] <Conartist>         else \
[10:01] <Creationist> zcat[1]: Why?
[10:01] <Conartist>                 rm -rf /usr/include/sound; \
[10:01] <FloodBot2> Conartist: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:01] <Gnea> kelvin911: i've found that it's better to create a virtual disk instead of using a physical one.
[10:01] <zcat[1]> rofl.. yeah, ok
[10:01] <ChaosParser> kelvin911: Well, There's Wine... and Cedega.  They'll generally give you better results than a virtual macine.
[10:01] <kelvin911> ChaosParser: i play like et, doom3, quake4, winning eleven, san andreas, nfs, etc
[10:01] <Creationist> ChaosParser: You could also look into Crossover Games.
[10:01] <kelvin911> ChaosParser: problem is i cant run those game on wine
[10:02] <kelvin911> ChaosParser: no cdkey
[10:02] <gluer> zcat: you dont like sauerbraten
[10:02] <Creationist> kelvin911: Oh yeah... you need to buy the game.  We don't offer support for piracy here.
[10:02] <ChaosParser> kelvin911: Then dual boot.
[10:02] <kelvin911> Creationist: i dont need support for private
[10:02] <kelvin911> Creationist: i already have them on xp
[10:02] <Creationist> zcat[1]: May I ask what your qualm is?
[10:02] <kelvin911> ChaosParser: i dual boot xp + ubuntu
[10:03] <Creationist> kelvin911: Then keep them on XP.
[10:03] <gluer> zcat: where do i get urt4.1?
[10:03] <zcat[1]> gluer: not really.. has a weird sway effect on strafing that makes me sick, and other than that, just not very exciting
[10:03] <tonyyarusso> p1r4t3: crimsun, if you can be _really_ nice and polite about it :)  Please see https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/42718/comments/11 for all audio-related problems first.
[10:03] <Gnea> Creationist: he asked you what email client you used and you never gave him an answer.
[10:03] <Creationist> Gnea: Yes, I did.  ANd he scoffed at my answer.
[10:03] <zcat[1]> Gnea: yes he did
[10:03]  * Gnea scrolls up
[10:03] <Gnea> oh, ok
[10:03] <Creationist> Gnea: :P
[10:03] <gluer> use Thunderbird
[10:04] <Gnea> not sure what's wrong with gmail...
[10:04] <Gnea> in a month, yahoo mail might be obsolete...
[10:04] <Creationist> Is it possible to have Sound Juicer rip CDs faster?  Right now it's only reading at 4.5x for some reason.
[10:04] <kelvin911> anyone play flight simulator?
[10:04] <Creationist> Has MS bought Yahoo yet?
[10:04] <kelvin911> i think its fun
[10:04] <zcat[1]> hehe.. just wondering, was suggesting to the local church that they should switch to linux. Not sure how they'd feel about using 'evolution' for their email tho :)
[10:04] <travkin> Google bought Yahoo. :>
[10:04] <Cahan> Creationist, no
[10:04] <Creationist> zcat[1]: Ahhhh..... I get it now :)
[10:04] <Gnea> i don't know, what does /. have to say about it?
[10:04] <ChaosParser> zcat[1]: There's always thunderbird.
[10:04] <Creationist> zcat[1]: I would have no problem using EVolution.
[10:05] <maop> zcat[1]: not mentioning about stop/Start daemons
[10:05] <gluer> zcat: Utr4.1?? where do i get it?
[10:05] <zcat[1]> yeah, and any OS with 'daemons' in it..
[10:05] <tonyyarusso> travkin: and your reference for that is what?
[10:05] <Weramasu> Has anyone here had success installing Ubuntu on a laptop with ATI X1400 graphics card?
[10:05] <Creationist> maop: Isn't that pronounced day-mons?
[10:05] <zcat[1]> gluer: urbanterror.net I think.. or .org.. Can't remember
[10:06] <Cahan> Weramasu, no but I've done it on a laptop with an ATI X700! >_>
[10:06] <Gnea> day-mons is correct.
[10:06] <maop> Creationist: yep, i guess, i'm not a english native speaker ;)
[10:06] <kelvin911> people on urbanterror server are not nice
[10:06] <p1r4t3> hi, i am relatively new to linux, and i have installed linux on my laptop. the sound worked for a while, until today. the ubuntu install cd makes the sound card work, but the installed ubuntu does not. I am not shure how to un-install the sound drivers and re-install them with linux and i was wondering if someone could help. thanx. or direct me to somewhere that some one could help me.
[10:06] <Creationist> maop: Lucky you lol
[10:06] <tobmaif> so hi can i ask a question or what
[10:06] <tonyyarusso> p1r4t3: did you read my answer?
[10:06] <Weramasu> Cahan:  i keep getting errors when i try to install from the livecd.  "The display server has been shut down about 6 times..."
[10:06] <maop> Creationist: in fact, daemons is a old word meaning angels he
[10:06] <Gnea> !sound | p1r4t3
[10:06] <ubotu> p1r4t3: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[10:06] <Creationist> tobmaif: How many times do we need to tell you to just ask?
[10:06] <stefg> !sound | p1r4t3
[10:06] <tobmaif> Creationist: you betcha
[10:07] <Weramasu> Cahan:  I can't login to the wireless network from the livecd so I can't run the apt-get commands
[10:07] <Gnea> obvious troll
[10:07] <Creationist> I prefer ogres myself.
[10:07] <maop> i have this monaco font from mac os x, it totally rules!
[10:07] <kelvin911> so did ubuntu have better support on wireless?
[10:07] <Gnea> i understand ogres get pretty hungry sometimes
[10:07] <p1r4t3> thank you ubotu. ill check that out.
[10:07] <Cahan> Weramasu, X worked fine for me since 6.06, sorry : /
[10:07] <Weramasu> anyone know how to get wireless internet from the livecd?
[10:08] <kelvin911> the last time i check  a year ago, i cant make my laptop's wireless working in ubuntu
[10:08] <Conartist> help plssss......
[10:08] <ChaosParser> Weramasu: Since it generally requires installing firmware and then rebooting.... nope.
[10:08] <progmanos> ubotu is a bot
[10:08] <ubotu> Yes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots for all information.
[10:08] <Conartist> i did what the page asked me to do
[10:08] <ChaosParser> Weramasu: Use ethernet.
[10:08] <zcat[1]> Weramasu: have a rt2400 wifi card?
[10:08] <Creationist> Does anyone know how to increase the ripping speed for Sound Juicer?
[10:08] <Conartist> and now i cant open up my alsa mixer
[10:08] <Conartist> when i try to open up my mixer
[10:08] <Conartist> it says
[10:08] <zcat[1]> or something equally well supported by totally free drivers and not needing firmware
[10:09] <Conartist> no volume control gstreamer
[10:09] <Conartist> what should i do
[10:09] <Conartist> ??????
[10:09] <tonyyarusso> !enter | Conartist
[10:09] <ubotu> Conartist: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:09] <Conartist> help plsss!!
[10:09] <ecrane> bots are people too!
[10:09] <igarcia> im new to ubuntu how do i find files from the command line?
[10:09] <Weramasu> i have the internal thinkpad t60 wireless card and a orinoco gold
[10:09] <Weramasu> will either of those work?
[10:09] <tonyyarusso> igarcia: locate works for many things.  Also, find.
[10:09] <Cahan> !bash | igarcia
[10:09] <ubotu> igarcia: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[10:09] <Starnestommy> igarcia: 'locate filename' or 'find / | grep filename'
[10:09] <zcat[1]> Weramasu: I think orinoco .. boot and see I guess
[10:09] <Conartist> can anyone help me try solving this problem
[10:10] <Conartist> i need help plsss!!
[10:10] <tonyyarusso> Starnestommy: find / -name filename
[10:10] <Starnestommy> do'h
[10:10] <ChaosParser> Conartist: did this happen after an update?
[10:10] <ChaosParser> Conartist: And what version of ubuntu are you using>
[10:10] <Conartist> i just did an update
[10:10] <Weramasu> what's the command to login to a wireless network using a WEP key?
[10:10] <Conartist> with my alsa lib
[10:10] <Conartist> alsa tool
[10:10] <Conartist> and after a reboot
[10:10] <FloodBot2> Conartist: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:10] <zcat[1]> was really impressed that my SMC card and USB wifi both work right from the live CD .. pity the onboard broadcom doesn't.
[10:10] <twosouls82> hello
[10:11] <igarcia> i just installed kismet is there a gui for it?
[10:11] <Stevethepirate> Haaai. I'm looking for a linux proxy server that allows me to use a socks5 server as its uplink/upstream. Tinyproxy only allows http upstreams.. and squid would be _far_ too much of a mission to set up...
[10:11] <ChaosParser> zcat[1]: Broadcom is a nightmare.
[10:11] <Conartist> hi use ubuntu 7.10
[10:11] <jim> Conartist: hmm, the bot thinks you're flooding or starting to... why?
[10:11] <Conartist> can you help me in a sort of way??
[10:11] <tonyyarusso> Starnestommy: I'm not 100% sure if it meets the requirements, but check out polipo.  Very similar to squid, but on a much smaller scale.
[10:12] <zcat[1]> ChaosParser: had it working in gutsy.. still haven't got it sorted in hardy.. will probably wait until 24th 'cos every kernel upgrade is probably going to break it again anyhow
[10:12] <Stevethepirate> tonyyarusso: polipo: kinky.. i'll checkz it outz
[10:12] <DarkJustice> I just downloaded a theme for gdm but I can't seem to find where to go to choose the theme I put in /gdm/themes...
[10:13] <jim> Conartist: I am helping... think about why the bot thinks you're flooding
[10:13] <ChaosParser> !pm
[10:13] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[10:13] <zcat[1]> DarkJustice: leave the theme in ~ and click '+ Add' button in the theme thingy
[10:13] <michael`> hi
[10:13] <Conartist> man...i m very new in this sort of thing, ubuntu, mirc, and i just want to know how to make my sound work, that s all i m asking
[10:13] <ChaosParser> Conartist: Did you update manually, or did Update Manager do it?
[10:13] <zcat[1]> well, that worked for emerald anyhow
[10:13] <ChaosParser> !patience
[10:14] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:14] <Conartist> i updated it mannualy
[10:14] <DarkJustice> zcat[1]: ok, for emerald I'll try that
[10:14] <Conartist> from the terminal
[10:14] <Starnestommy> Conartist: are you using 7.10 or 8.04?
[10:14] <ChaosParser> Conartist: For someone new at this, that was a Bad Idea.
[10:14] <Conartist> 7.10
[10:14] <michael`> ok, befor i ask somewhat: sorry for my very bad english :)
[10:14] <igarcia> is there a gui for kismet or a better program? i have heard of aircrack but not sure if its good
[10:14] <Conartist> the ubuntu tutorial site said it would help
[10:14] <kelvin911> can anyone tell me which dock this guy uses ??? http://gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/75563-1.jpeg see picture
[10:15] <Conartist> so i did as they told me
[10:15] <zcat[1]> igarcia: I think kismet is all console.. there's kismet-client tho which shows a batter view of what kismet-server picks up.
[10:15] <zcat[1]> *better
[10:15] <Conartist> can i talk to someone in a private tab??
[10:15] <DarkJustice> zcat[1]: sorry I'm brand new... so ~ is what folder?
[10:15] <ChaosParser> Conartist: Did it work before you updated it?
[10:15] <Creationist> OKay, if no one knows how to rip CD's faster than 4.5x with Sound Juicer, could someone suggest an alternative program to rip to .ogg?
[10:15] <michael`> so - can i upgrade a debian stable to the current ubuntu version?
[10:16] <Creationist> DarkJustice: ~ is just a shortcut to /home/[username]/
[10:16] <zcat[1]> DarkJustice: ~ is home  -- '/home/yourlogin/'
[10:16] <DarkJustice> zcat[1]: ok thanks
[10:16] <jim> michael`: those are pretty different
[10:16] <Conartist> yes it worked
[10:16] <Creationist> zcat[1]: He thanks you... heh, you owe me a beer ;)
[10:16] <Conartist> but i still had no sound...but at least my mixer worked
[10:16] <Zweisteine> Hi! A recent update (Hardy) broke the brightness keys on my Dell laptop. How can I see a list of changes in packages, similar to the one in the update-manager?
[10:16] <Conartist> now , even my mixer is down
[10:17] <Conartist> after i did the update mannualy
[10:17] <Creationist> Pick it up, Con.
[10:17] <Zweisteine> Sorry. Just read the topic.
[10:17] <ChaosParser> Conartist: Open Synaptic Package Manager, mark everything alsa for removal, then reinstall from terminal using sudo apt-get install nameofpackageyouremoved
[10:17] <zcat[1]> Creationist: would you settle for a shotglass of straight ethanol?
[10:17] <DarkJustice> sorry Creationist, I was looking for the zcat[1] nick
[10:17] <Creationist> zcat[1]: Hmm... is it organic?
[10:17] <michael`> jim: yes - i know. the first question is: will ubuntu boot after an upgrade from debian stable?
[10:18] <Conartist> chaos...i m a noob in linux..can i talk to you on private???
[10:18] <zcat[1]> Creationist: was helping a guy today who distills for a hobby .. it's good stuff..
[10:18] <ChaosParser> Zweisteine: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy
[10:18] <zcat[1]> nothing like drinking something that doubles as lighter fuel
[10:19] <Cahan>  would it be better to install the server edition and then a GUI or install a desktop and then gut it of everything I don't like?
[10:19] <igarcia> what program do you use to download video from rss feeds like revision3 i dont really like miro seems to upload and slow things down on my internet connection.
[10:19] <ChaosParser> Cahan: Server edition comes with a GUI?
[10:20] <Cahan> ChaosParser, I mean install server and then apt-get Xorg and a window manager
[10:20] <Conartist> chaos plss....how can i talk to you on private???
[10:21] <Conartist> i have a lot of things marked with alsa...in synaptic, i delete all of them???
[10:21] <DarkJustice> zcat[1]: ok tried that but it's not recognizing it at all, sees the folder but nothing inside of it
[10:21] <twosouls82> is it normal that /var/log/apparmor is empty?
[10:21] <ChaosParser> Conartist: System> Administration> Synaptic Package Manager, search alsa.  Mark everything alsa for removal, then reinstall from terminal using sudo apt-get install nameofpackageyouremoved.  It cannot be explained more simply than that.
[10:21] <igarcia> i found this to customize the install of ubuntu not sure if its good but i found this http://reconstructor.aperantis.com/
[10:22] <zcat[1]> DarkJustice: hmm .. how about Desktop?
[10:22] <nsetiono> hi
[10:22] <nsetiono> anyone alive ?
[10:22] <Conartist> yes man...so i remove all the alsa files from my computer, and when i reinstall alsa from my terminal , = sudo apt-get install (i dont understand this part)
[10:23] <DarkJustice> zcat[1] ok I'll paste it on the desktop and see if that helps
[10:23] <ChaosParser> Conartist: To reinstall, you type sudo apt-get install thenameofeachpackageyoujustremoved.
[10:23] <nsetiono> i got a problem when using iptables
[10:23] <ChaosParser> : cries.
[10:23] <zcat[1]> apt-get install --reinstall  :-)
[10:24] <ChaosParser> zcat[1]: No.  He needs the repo versions of alsa.
[10:24] <zcat[1]> ahh, 'k
[10:24] <ChaosParser> zcat[1]: Which isn't what he has installed.
[10:24] <nsetiono> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62297/
[10:24] <Creationist> OKay, if no one knows how to rip CD's faster than 4.5x with Sound Juicer, could someone suggest an alternative program to rip to .ogg?
[10:24] <nsetiono> i'm new on ubuntu
[10:24] <DKong> what rss downloader is the best? i want to download video and mp3 podcasts
[10:25] <Conartist> so when i remove for example.."alsa-base" after that i should type in the terminal , apt-get install alsa-base?
[10:25] <ChaosParser> Creationist: GnomeBaker
[10:25] <DarkJustice> omg this is frustrating
[10:25] <ChaosParser> Conartist: yes.
[10:25] <Conartist> for everything that i remove?
[10:25] <nsetiono> i need help on ubuntu hiks :(
[10:25] <ChaosParser> Conartist: yes.
[10:25] <DarkJustice> zcat[1]: doesn't seem to matter where I put it, emerald only sees it as an empty folder.. the theme files are .png and .xml files
[10:25] <Conartist> i remove....i type in the terminal, i remove i type in the terminal?
[10:26] <Creationist> ChaosParser: That rips too, huh?  Faster than 4.5x?
[10:26] <mark[oz]> anyone on here tried to install ubuntu on an eeepc?
[10:26] <ChaosParser> Creationist: Yep.
[10:26] <Conartist> doesnt matter in what order i remove them?
[10:26] <DarkJustice> is there possibly another them program I should be using for the gdm theme?
[10:26] <nsetiono> FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.22-8-server/modules.dep: No such file or directory
[10:26] <ChaosParser> Creationist: Actually, gimme one second and I'll check the speed to be sure.
[10:27] <DKong> my ubuntu laptop is not seeing my windows server or any other pc on my network how do i reinstall samba?
[10:27] <Cahan> mark[oz], www.eeeuser.com has some good guides on installing various flavours of Ubuntu
[10:27] <Conartist> chaos:doesnt matter in what order i remove them?
[10:27] <Conartist> or i remove them randomly?
[10:27] <ChaosParser> DKong: System> Administration> Synaptic Package Manager, search alsa samba, mark all packages for reinstallation
[10:27] <ChaosParser> Conartist: Doesn't matter
[10:27] <Conartist> ok man
[10:28] <Conartist> brb after i do all those things
[10:28] <Creationist> ChaosParser: Hmm... I can't even find the option to rip it lol
[10:28] <Conartist> dont you go away:)
[10:28] <Cyrus25801> how do i transfer my mail in thunderbird from 1 linux hdd to the other
[10:28] <Carroarmato0> Has anyone got experience with switching a Desktop Ubuntu to the Sever edition?
[10:28] <N3WFI3> they can be switched?
[10:28] <icesword> Carbonflux, don't do that sir
[10:29] <tonyyarusso> N3WFI3: of course - they're the same OS.
[10:29] <SlimG> "dpkg --configure -a" reports that I have several syntax-errors in /var/lib/dpkg-updates/003 , is it safe to remove all the files in the /var/lib/dpkg-updates/ folder and regenerate them using "aptitude update" ?
[10:29] <tonyyarusso> Carroarmato0: just switch kernels and don't start GDM in your default runlevel, and you're done.
[10:29] <p1r4t3> hi, i think i m going to re install ubuntu to get the sound going... thanks for the help... cya
[10:29] <icesword> lol
[10:29] <Dr_willis> gee i wonder whats so special about the server kernel.
[10:29] <kelvin911> what icon theme u guys use?
[10:29] <ChaosParser> Creationist: Or not.  My bad.  It just copies.  Why not just use VLC?
[10:30] <icesword> no that kind of switch ,plz
[10:30] <Carroarmato0> tonyyarusso: I have all my files on my account on the system, will they get affected?
[10:30] <Creationist> ChaosParser: Will that rip to .OGG?
[10:30] <Starnestommy> Dr_willis: it's compiled with different options to make it more effecient for servers
[10:30] <Conartist> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:30] <tonyyarusso> Dr_willis: compile-time configurations for whether the priority is on mouse/gui responsiveness or lower-level stuff with more IO than interrupts.
[10:30] <ChaosParser> Creationist: Quick open the disc, then select wizard, transcode as vorbis, select bitrate, save as whatever.  Yeah.
[10:30] <Creationist> hmm
[10:30] <tonyyarusso> Carroarmato0: You're not changing the system at all.
[10:30] <ChaosParser> Conartist: Close everything else you have open
[10:30] <Conartist> this is when i try to reinstall alsa-base
[10:30] <Conartist> oh yes
[10:30] <Conartist> :)
[10:30] <suxxor> i`ve installed vmware can i install for example windows selecting directory of my hard or i must installed it inserting cd on which is written the windows
[10:31] <ChaosParser> suxxor: You need the cd.
[10:31] <Carbonflux> icesword, do what ?
[10:31] <suxxor> ok 10x
[10:31] <Dr_willis> suxxor,  you dont want to run a preinstalled windows system from its hard drive. that can cause issues
[10:31] <Creationist> ChaosParser: THanks for the tip, but I'm looking for something a little more straightforward - like Sound Juicer but faster than 4.5x (which is ridiculously slow)
[10:31] <icesword> Carbonflux, switch from desktop to server
[10:31] <Carroarmato0> tonyyarusso: So when I've installed the server, is there any fancy webcontrole interface which I can manage the system by default?
[10:32] <Carbonflux> icesword, my machine froze and left a Ghost nick :)
[10:32] <tonyyarusso> Carroarmato0: no.  Servers doing have a GUI - that's kinda the point.
[10:32] <Carroarmato0> tonyyarusso: or do I have to install like webmin?
[10:32] <DarkJustice> OMG I can't even set a new background for the desktop.... wtf does ubuntu use to set the dang wallpaper/theme etc. by default?
[10:32] <N3WFI3> leet
[10:32] <tonyyarusso> Carroarmato0: webmin is not supported nor recommended.
[10:32] <Dr_willis> thers some alternatives to webmin out now i belive
[10:32] <Starnestommy> ebox?
[10:32] <Cahan> Carroarmato0, you're better off just using ssh
[10:32] <Dr_willis> ebox sounds right. :)
[10:32] <voidvoidguest> hello
[10:32] <voidvoidguest> so
[10:33] <voidvoidguest> can't activate my /dev/fb0
[10:33] <voidvoidguest> I don't know which manual page to read
[10:33] <tobmaif> hi sry but np
[10:33] <Starnestommy> voidvoidguest: you need to enable the framebuffer
[10:33] <Carroarmato0> Cahan, tonyyarusso, so it's basicly a server in the strict sense of the word?
[10:33] <Conartist> everything marked with alsa?
[10:33] <Cyrus25801> how do i transfer my mail in thunderbird from 1 linux hdd to the other
[10:33] <voidvoidguest> how would i do that?
[10:33] <Creationist> DarkJustice: Hmm... right-click the desktop?
[10:33] <Conartist> did you say?
[10:33] <nsetiono> anyone can help me pls
[10:33] <Starnestommy> voidvoidguest: if you're using 7.10, try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=652038
[10:34] <tonyyarusso> Carroarmato0: "strict"?  It serves...what more do you want?
[10:34] <Creationist> !ask | nsetiono
[10:34] <ubotu> nsetiono: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[10:34] <ChaosParser> Conartist: Yes.
[10:34] <christophoros> guys any ideas why i cant watch dvd ? i have grafics card and all codecs installed what am i  issing?
[10:34] <Conartist> k
[10:34] <voidvoidguest> thanks Starnestommy
[10:34] <voidvoidguest> later on then
[10:34] <Creationist> christophoros: What happens when you try to watch one?
[10:34] <Cahan> Carroarmato0, in that it has no GUI and prioritises server processes over user ones by default
[10:34] <ChaosParser> christophoros: What program are you using, and what happens when you try to watch a DVD?
[10:34] <Starnestommy> nsetiono: try 'sudo depmod -a'
[10:34] <Creationist> ChaosParser: And again.. you're more detailed ;)  The program question was my next one.
[10:34] <nsetiono> i had installing the iptables but when i try to run it it's give me an error, you can look the error at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62297/
[10:35] <DarkJustice> Creationist: wonderful, thank you very much.. now, lol any suggestions on how to get that entire theme to work?
[10:35] <Carroarmato0> tonyyarusso: although I don't have a problem working with ssh and such.... I was kinda expecting a webinterface to connect to it and manage it from there in all comodity. :)
[10:35] <ChaosParser> Creationist: I've been a tech support slave.
[10:35] <Creationist> DarkJustice: Have you looked at System -> Preferences -> Appearance?
[10:35] <nsetiono> Starnestommy : not work because /lib/modules/2.6.22-8-server/modules.dep not available
[10:35] <ChaosParser> DarkJustice: Drag the theme package to the appearance window.
[10:35] <christophoros> creationist it starts the dvd without showing me image and sometimes the image is flashing with scenes of the movie i can hear the music
[10:35] <DarkJustice> Creationist: yeah but I'll look again, and try what ChaosParser said too
[10:35] <Creationist> ChaosParser: Man, I get so frustrated just telling my mother how to login lol.... over, and over, and over again.
[10:35] <ChaosParser> christophoros: What program are you using?
[10:35] <tonyyarusso> Carroarmato0: The reason such a thing is not included is because those types of control interfaces have serious security issues, and the technical board prefers to ship a secure product than a "convenient" one.
[10:36] <nsetiono> had searching on google but get nothing :(
[10:36] <FreeNod1> how do I gain root authorization on my desktop? :|
[10:36] <ekstelis> uhh
[10:36] <DKong-JR> what rss downloader do you guys use?
[10:36] <Starnestommy> FreeNod1: gksudo?
[10:36] <FreeNod1> I have to chmod  things constantly
[10:36] <christophoros> chaosparser totem
[10:36] <ChaosParser> Creationist: I did AOL support... [there's nothing worse].  And Dell Corporate Business Group, and Dell Small Business.
[10:36] <Creationist> christophoros: Okay... first step is to try different programs.  Try Totem ("Movie Player") and VLC.
[10:36] <SlimG> "dpkg --configure -a" reports that I have several syntax-errors in /var/lib/dpkg-updates/003 , is it safe to remove all the files in the /var/lib/dpkg-updates/ folder and regenerate them using "aptitude update" ?
[10:36] <ekstelis> uhhh
[10:36] <ChaosParser> christophoros: Totem is crap.  sudo apt-get install vlc
[10:36] <FreeNod1> gksudo? Starnestommy ok cheers :D
[10:36] <Creationist> ChaosParser: Worse than AOL could be MS.
[10:36] <Carroarmato0> tonyyarusso: ok I get it. But the sever is like, pure server, and not a Home Server?
[10:36] <Starnestommy> nsetiono: are you using the kernel that came with ubuntu?
[10:36] <tonyyarusso> FreeNod1: ...don't mess with system permissions...
[10:36] <nsetiono> Starnestommy : yes
[10:37] <Creationist> ChaosParser: I hate totem too, but can't get rid of it without getting rid of the mozilla plugin (the only plugin that works for me)
[10:37] <tonyyarusso> Carroarmato0: define "home server"?  You can set up whatever programs you need.
[10:37] <christophoros> lemme try chaosparser
[10:37] <ChaosParser> Creationist: Eh.  Support for Dell = Windows + Hardware.
[10:37] <ekstelis> when tryin to dl xfe .... which file do i need?  a .deb .rpm .sh or a .gz ?
[10:37] <Starnestommy> nsetiono: and did you try 'sudo depmod -a'?  What did it output?
[10:37] <Creationist> ChaosParser: Good point.
[10:37] <Starnestommy> ekstelis: .deb
[10:37] <ekstelis> im usin gnome ubuntu
[10:37] <ekstelis> k
[10:37] <nsetiono> Starnestommy : WARNING: Couldn't open directory /lib/modules/2.6.22-8-server: No such file or directory
[10:37] <ekstelis>  	xfe_1.04-1_i386.deb   Mirror   	1678964  	1112  	i386  	.deb
[10:37] <Carroarmato0> tonyyarusso: Well by "strict server" I mean the "hardcore" stuff like you mean, and by "Home server" I am picturing the comodity stuff
[10:37] <ekstelis> right ?
[10:38] <Starnestommy> ekstelis: yes
[10:38] <Creationist> ChaosParser: If you're into comedy, search Google for "neurotically yours tech support" :)
[10:38] <mrgozinyah> thanks
[10:38] <DarkJustice> Creationist: hmmm well it says file format invalid, I'm guessing I can't use .png or .xml files for Appearance
[10:38] <ChaosParser> Creationist: Foamy is my hero.
[10:38] <Mikkel`> Hello .. i need help .. i will Download hldsupdatetool.bin from steampowered.. and i use wget on this server linux .. and now can i not get this file:S i get error .. "Cannot write to `hldsupdatetool.bin' (Permission denied)." - what error?? .. Thx ... Help ;)
[10:38] <ikm> hi there
[10:38] <FreeNod1> tonyyarusso: I have LAMP on my desktop and it's a pain xD isn't there a way to have native root permissions?
[10:38] <mrgozinyah> sweet, we can have longer nicks on this server
[10:38] <FreeNod1> through my nick?
[10:38] <tonyyarusso> Carroarmato0: I don't understand.  I run the exact same things on my "home server" as my "corporate servers".
[10:38] <Creationist> DarkJustice: Nope.  Theme files are usually archives (.gz or similar extention).
[10:38] <Creationist> DarkJustice: They contain many different files, not just one graphic.
[10:39] <nsetiono> Starnestommy : so what i can do now ?
[10:39] <ChaosParser> Mikkel`: try throwing a sudo infront of your command.
[10:39] <xrhstaraspatra> hi from greece
[10:39] <Cahan> FreeNod1, closest you can get is to do sudo su and do everything from the command line, or switch to Windows :p
[10:39] <xrhstaraspatra> i'm install ubuntu beta right now
[10:39] <tonyyarusso> FreeNod1: Uh, only if you WANT to circumvent every aspect of intelligent secure system design, which you can do, but this channel won't support.
[10:39] <Mikkel`> ChaosParser: I trying sudo 2 sec ;)
[10:39] <DarkJustice> Creationist: ohhhhh doi, so drag the .gz archive... someday I might understand linux lol
[10:39] <Starnestommy> nsetiono: you may need to reinstall the kernel, but I'm not sure how
[10:39] <Carroarmato0> tonyyarusso: so it's just the same thing, different name depending on the location of the server :D
[10:39] <ChaosParser> DarkJustice: Take the tar.gz.  Drag it into the window.  That's all there is to it.
[10:39] <Mikkel`> ChaosParser: Goodike It working Thx ;)
[10:39] <tonyyarusso> Carroarmato0: sure
[10:39] <ikm> i am installing ubuntu 7.10 with alternate CD, giving country name and keyboard layout it shows a BLUE screen and from the last 25 minutes nothing happend, isthis normal? should i wait more?
[10:39] <xrhstaraspatra> !help
[10:39] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:39] <FreeNod1> tonyyarusso: llololol
[10:39] <xrhstaraspatra> help
[10:40] <xrhstaraspatra> i'm installing ubuntu last beta
[10:40] <xrhstaraspatra> right now
[10:40] <Creationist> DarkJustice: Linux takes a lot of time to get the hang of the ins and outs.  But it's a fun trip :)
[10:40] <ChaosParser> Mikkel`: No problem.  Glad it worked.
[10:40] <tonyyarusso> xrhstaraspatra: #ubuntu+1 for Hardy
[10:40] <Cahan> xrhstaraspatra, #ubuntu+1
[10:40] <Mikkel`> ChaosParser: :P
[10:40] <FreeNod1> Cahan: yes... command line :( lol
[10:40] <Carroarmato0> tonyyarusso: gonna make myself a toaster server in that case :D
[10:40] <tonyyarusso> Carroarmato0: to match your dead badger server?
[10:40] <xrhstaraspatra> and i would like to know if i'm gonna have any problems having vista together
[10:40] <Cahan> FreeNod1, the command line is a warm, comforting and fun place to be!
[10:40] <ikm> tonyyarusso:   i am installing ubuntu 7.10 with alternate CD, giving country name and keyboard layout it shows a BLUE screen and from the last 25 minutes nothing happend, isthis normal? should i wait more?
[10:41] <ChaosParser> FreeNod1: The Ubuntu Devs STRONGLY advise that you never, ever, sudo su.
[10:41] <Starnestommy> xrhstaraspatra: #ubuntu+1 is for support with 8.04 beta
[10:41] <Creationist> Cahan: Yeah, as long as you don't have to type anything into it ;)
[10:41] <tonyyarusso> ikm: well, you can wait a bit more, but that doesn't sound good.  Did you run the integrity check yet on the CD?
[10:41] <DarkJustice> ChaosParser: thanks for that tip, but I tried dragging twotowers.tar.gz to Appearance and still says File Format invalid
[10:41] <xrhstaraspatra> i want to refer a problem
[10:41] <loa> where i can find list of devices, who have open source drivers?
[10:41] <FreeNod1> ChaosParser: ok cheers... I won't ^^
[10:41] <ChaosParser> FreeNod1: It is not supported, by anyone, and voids commerical support contracts, actually.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[10:41] <xrhstaraspatra> with the previously beta
[10:41] <ikm> tonyyarusso: NOT YET
[10:41] <tonyyarusso> sudo -i or sudo -s is preferable to sudo su, and even then should be used sparingly.
[10:41] <Carroarmato0> tonyyarusso: yeah, he was starting to get smelly and scare the kids....
[10:41] <xrhstaraspatra> of hardy heron
[10:42] <Starnestommy> !hardy | xrhstaraspatra
[10:42] <xrhstaraspatra> the previous beta had a problem with localization update
[10:42] <ubotu> xrhstaraspatra: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[10:42] <tonyyarusso> ikm: hmm, might be one thing you could try to attempt a diagnosis.
[10:42] <Carroarmato0> tonyyarusso: ... and get everyone sick when making toast :D
[10:42] <xrhstaraspatra> for greece
[10:42] <ChaosParser> loa: !google
[10:42] <Cahan> Creationist, maybe it's because my first real linux experience was installing Gentoo, but I like the command line, and actually prefer it for system admin stuff >_>
[10:42] <ikm> tonyyarusso : ok dear thnkx
[10:42] <FreeNod1> cohan btw it is sudo chmod -R ugo+rw /directory/etc/
[10:42] <FreeNod1> right?
[10:42] <loa> ChaosParser, nop... that must be site of open source federation.
[10:42] <FreeNod1> for me to  use the directory?
[10:42] <DKong-JR> what is recomended for downloading rss feeds video i use itunes on my mac
[10:42] <tonyyarusso> FreeNod1: what directory would you be doing that to?
[10:43] <Cahan> FreeNod1, I don't use chmod much
[10:43] <ChaosParser> chmod usually means you screwed up. :-p
[10:43] <Carroarmato0> tonyyarusso: thx for the help, guess there's no real need for me to run my system with another kernel since I use the server-side apps already on the desktop
[10:43] <Creationist> Cahan: My first Linux experience was Gentoo too! :)  I chose it based solely on the logo and never did get a system up and running with it. :)  Took 5 years off from Linux convinced it was for hardcore hackers only.
[10:43] <FreeNod1> tonyyarusso: Cahan: /var/www/
[10:43] <FreeNod1> the apache one
[10:44] <tonyyarusso> FreeNod1: And you want every random idiot who visits your web site to have write privs to your site why?
[10:44] <FreeNod1> I guess I'll have to move where apache is pointing then
[10:44] <Cahan> Creationist, haha, I got it up in a day or two, took me another 5 days to get X working though!
[10:44] <tonyyarusso> FreeNod1: add yourself to the www-data group instead, or use sudo like you've been told.
[10:44] <twosouls82> apparmor doesn't log here, someone seen this behaviour?
[10:44] <Creationist> Cahan: Well, I was probably like 15-16 at the time :)  I knew DOS and Windows inside and out... never knew a thing about linux when I decided to try it.
[10:45] <FreeNod1> tonyyarusso: I don't wont people to visit my site on my desktop, it's for developing
[10:45] <N3WFI3> lmao
[10:45] <FreeNod1> tonyyarusso: you have been very helpful cheers :)
[10:45] <N3WFI3> this is gunna be my first time trying linux out in a few mins
[10:45] <jimcooncat> FreeNod1: adding yourself to the group is much easier than fiddling with chmod
[10:45] <christophoros> chaosparser do i need any different codex for lib?
[10:46] <DarkJustice> whew one issue down... can anyone tell me what I need to do on my ubuntu box to be able to use putty to ssh into it?
[10:46] <Cahan> DarkJustice, openssh
[10:46] <FreeNod1> jimcooncat: how do I  do that? command line?
[10:46] <Starnestommy> DarkJustice: install openssh-server?
[10:46] <DarkJustice> thanks
[10:46] <FreeNod1> DarkJustice: install webmin too... makes all so much easier
[10:47] <grounded> moin
[10:47] <jimcooncat> Yes, or System->Administration->Users and Groups
[10:47] <Starnestommy> FreeNod1, DarkJustice: ebox is preferred over webmin
[10:47] <grounded> sorry is this the english irc?
[10:48] <tonyyarusso> yup
[10:48] <Creationist> grounded: Yes... What language you need?
[10:48] <grounded> thx
[10:48] <Starnestommy> grounded: it is, but there are other channels for other languages
[10:48] <grounded> german
[10:48] <ChaosParser> !language
[10:48] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[10:48] <ChaosParser> !german
[10:48] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:48] <tonyyarusso> grounded: #ubuntu-de
[10:48] <Creationist> !dt
[10:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:48] <Creationist> oh
[10:48] <Creationist> heh
[10:48] <DKong-JR> what is the best irc client for ubuntu?
[10:48] <FreeNod1> Starnestommy: ebox? never heared of it... google time!
[10:48] <tonyyarusso> !best | DKong-JR
[10:48] <ubotu> DKong-JR: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[10:48] <ChaosParser> DKong-JR: I use Opera.
[10:48] <Creationist> DKong-JR: Best?  Know one knows..   I use both XChat and Konverstion
[10:48] <grounded> i try in english ^^
[10:48] <Starnestommy> DarkJustice: xchat or irssi.
[10:49] <Starnestommy> er, DKong-JR: xchat or irssi
[10:49] <Conartist> ok man, i did everything that you told me to do for now...next???
[10:49] <christophoros> creationist i instaled lib too but it doesnt seem to work
[10:49] <grounded> does the Creative Audigy 2 ZS work propper on ubuntu?
[10:49] <Deanodriver> how do i get my sound settings so that if i plug headphones into my laptop, the speakers built into it switch off? i'm using a conexant chipset sound
[10:49] <ikm> tonyyarusso: just for cheking, i eject CD from DVD rom drive and setup ask me " your CD rome is not mounted , press YES to moud CD ) then i press YES, means ubuntu is installing ? .........
[10:49] <Conartist> i installed and reinstalled..
[10:49] <ChaosParser> Conartist: Now open alsa and make sure sound isn't muted.
[10:49] <BaD_CrC> if a usb device is successfully detected, how can i tell which /dev name it is using?
[10:50] <Conartist> how do i open alsa?
[10:50] <ChaosParser> BaD_CrC: Go there and see which one is new?
[10:50] <tonyyarusso> ikm: no, that just means your CD is being mounted.
[10:50] <icesword> alsaconf
[10:50] <ChaosParser> Conartist: open a terminal, type alsamixer
[10:50] <Conartist> alsaconf?
[10:50] <Conartist> aa ok
[10:50] <ikm> tonyyarusso: so i restart pc and cheke CD for errors?
[10:50] <grounded> i like to buy one at ebay
[10:51] <N3WFI3> im using firefox plugin chatzilla
[10:51] <Conartist> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device (this is what is says)
[10:51] <icesword> chatzilla sucks
[10:51] <Creationist> BaD_CrC: An easy way to check too is to unplug the device, then plug it back in and run "dmesg" at a terminal.  At the end it will show any new connected devices.
[10:51] <ChaosParser> Conartist: Did you get sound on the live cd?
[10:51] <N3WFI3> why
[10:51] <Conartist> nop
[10:51] <ChaosParser> Conartist: 'cause it sounds like your sound card isn't detected.
[10:51] <ChaosParser> Conartist: Desktop or notebook?
[10:51] <BaD_CrC> Creationist: it shows it in dmesg
[10:51] <Conartist> yes, it isnt detected
[10:51] <ikm> tonyyarusso:  this is strange, i was able to install ubuntu live CD on my machine before, but not now and alternate CD also didn't work for me .. why is that? :(
[10:51] <tonyyarusso> ikm: yes
[10:52] <tonyyarusso> ikm: don't know.
[10:52] <christophoros> creationist any advise from whee i should download codex again for the dvd ?
[10:52] <tobmaif> Conartist:  is it possible to make a complaint about someone who is repeatedly and knowingly using my nickname mainly in order to irritate me?
[10:52] <grounded> i'll be back... ^^
[10:52] <Creationist> christophoros: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras.
[10:52] <sooooooooooooooo> how do i stop and close x-windows kde ? its too slow on my system, and want to run cmd mode only
[10:52] <Conartist> but, like half an hour ago , my alsamixer worked
[10:52] <Starnestommy> tobmaif: maybe in #freenode
[10:52] <icesword> tobmaif, #freenode
[10:52] <Conartist> before i reinstalled my alsa things
[10:52] <Conartist> it worked
[10:53] <tobmaif> Starnestommy:  mightfly, like where?
[10:53] <suxxor> how to burn data on disk should i use special program or it can be done by pasting the date on cd
[10:53] <Conartist> when i typed alsamixer it showed my a mixer in the terminal
[10:53] <tonyyarusso> sooooooooooooooo: sudo invoke-rc.d stop kdm
[10:53] <mysterycool> suxxor: no, you don't need a special program
[10:53] <Starnestommy> tobmaif: we already told you, #freenode
[10:53] <tobmaif> Starnestommy: neg
[10:53] <Frogzoo> suxxor: get k3b
[10:53] <sooooooooooooooo> ok
[10:53] <Conartist> what should i do man?
[10:53] <mysterycool> suxxor: there is already CD/DVD Creator
[10:53] <tonyyarusso> sooooooooooooooo: bah, sorry - flip it around: kdm stop
[10:53] <|WolF|> does any one have expiriance with LinuxDCpp on ubuntu?
[10:53] <christophoros> creationist done it but i cant play dvds yet :/
[10:54] <suxxor> 10x
[10:54] <mysterycool> suxxor: You are using ubuntu right?
[10:54] <suxxor> yes
[10:54] <Conartist> when i write something on irc chat here..i get blips from my computer insisde sound
[10:54] <ChaosParser> Conartist: Unfortunately, unless you know exactly what you changed and how you changed it, we aren't going to be able to tell you how to fix it.
[10:55] <mysterycool> suxxor: ok insert your cd in your cd writer then go to Places -> CD/DVD Creator
[10:55] <Conartist> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto i went here and did those things.... now can you help me????
[10:55] <suxxor> i`m fine
[10:55] <twosouls82> apparmor doesn't log anything anymore since 20080404, a apt-get --reinstall install apparmor didn't fix it and I don't see anything about it in the logs (clues, notices, warnings etc)
[10:55] <|WolF|> does any one have expiriance with LinuxDCpp on ubuntu? My question is, can p2p work on LinuxDCpp (at the same local network as dc is)?
[10:55] <mysterycool> suxxor: then paste your data in there and the hit Burn or something like that
[10:55] <mysterycool> =]
[10:55] <twosouls82> this is on all my boxes, not just one
[10:55] <FreeNod1> how do I add myself to a group? XD
[10:56] <Starnestommy> FreeNod1: sudo adduser username groupname
[10:56] <Conartist> i did all those things that the site told me to do
[10:56] <ChaosParser> FreeNod1: System>Administration>users and groups.
[10:56] <Conartist> and after that, my sound didn t worked.
[10:56] <Conartist> now you know the problem?
[10:56] <FreeNod1> Starnestommy: ChaosParser omg so simple thank you guys! :|
[10:56] <ChaosParser> Conartist: ...  that guide is from 3 versions ago.
[10:57] <Conartist> one guy here on mirc told me to do that
[10:57] <Conartist> and i did it
[10:57] <Conartist> i told you i am a nood
[10:57] <Conartist> noob
[10:57] <Conartist> i dont know...
[10:57] <tobmaif> Conartist: i think it is
[10:58] <Starnestommy> Conartist: try sudo
[10:58] <Starnestommy> er, sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
[10:58] <ChaosParser> Conartist: Open a terminal and type lspci -v  paste the output here !pastebin and then post the link to it here.
[10:58] <ChaosParser> !pastebin
[10:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[10:58] <Conartist> pl
[10:58] <Conartist> ok
[10:58] <Conartist> brb
[10:59] <Conartist> !pastebin
[10:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[10:59] <Conartist> !pastebin 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31/P35/P31 Express DRAM Controller (rev 02)
[10:59] <Conartist>         Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Unknown device 5000
[10:59] <Conartist>         Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
[10:59] <Conartist>         Capabilities: [e0] Vendor Specific Information
[10:59] <Conartist> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31/P35/P31 Express PCI Express Root Port (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
[10:59] <Conartist>         Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
[10:59] <Conartist>         Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0
[10:59] <Conartist>         I/O behind bridge: 0000b000-0000bfff
[10:59] <Conartist>         Memory behind bridge: f4000000-f5ffffff
[11:00] <Conartist>         Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 00000000e0000000-00000000efffffff
[11:00] <Conartist>         Capabilities: [88] Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Unknown device 5000
[11:00] <Conartist>         Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 3
[11:00] <FloodBot2> Conartist: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:00] <nsetiono> still can't load modules.dep
[11:00] <Conartist>         Capabilities: [90] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit- Queue=0/0 Enable-
[11:00] <nsetiono> :(
[11:00] <mysterycool> >.>
[11:00] <christophoros> any ideas someone why i cant play dvd movies? i got codex and grafic card drivers also tryed svral programs but the image wh
[11:00] <christophoros> en i play dvds is broken
[11:01] <ChaosParser> christophoros: Are you running compiz?
[11:01] <sooooooooooooooo> ok, a samba question.  i have /var/www/html,  i want all users to be able to read and write there, but i want them to write as user apache,  is this possible? if so how
[11:01] <christophoros> ChaosParser how i do that? cause am still newbie in linux heh><
[11:01] <Conartist> i flooded
[11:02] <ChaosParser> sooooooooooooooo: They could su to apache.
[11:02] <Conartist> i did what you told me
[11:02] <ChaosParser> !pastebin Conartist
[11:02] <Conartist> how do i copy paste
[11:02] <ChaosParser> ...
[11:02] <Conartist> how do i do it
[11:02] <Conartist> ?
[11:02] <ChaosParser> jesus christ.
[11:02] <ChaosParser> I give up.
[11:02] <Starnestommy> Conartist: go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:02] <tonyyarusso> !pastebin | Conartist
[11:02] <ubotu> Conartist: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[11:02] <tonyyarusso> ChaosParser: syntax ;)
[11:02] <ChaosParser> tonyyarusso: I've said it three times.
[11:03] <ChaosParser> christophoros: System>Preferences>Appearance
[11:03] <jim> there's that perlpaste thign he could use
[11:03] <Starnestommy> pastebinit?
[11:03] <Conartist> what sintax?
[11:03] <ChaosParser> christophoros: Set visual effects to none.
[11:03] <Starnestommy> Conartist: you go to
[11:04] <Starnestommy> whoops
[11:04] <christophoros> ChaosParsel done it
[11:04] <Conartist> i did it
[11:04] <Conartist> ?
[11:04] <Conartist> can you see it now?
[11:04] <ChaosParser> christophoros: Try to play a dvd via VLC now.
[11:04] <tobmaif> Conartist: what algorithm are you using to determine primality?
[11:04] <Starnestommy> Conartist: go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/. paste the stuff there, hit submit, then give us the link to it
[11:04] <christophoros> ChaosParsel same image broken and sound not good
[11:05] <Conartist> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62301/
[11:05] <Conartist> now i got it
[11:05] <Sep1> Oki, having a problem vconfiguring the fglrx driver for a Radeon 9600. I simply revert to safe graphics mode.
[11:05] <Conartist> :))
[11:05] <ChaosParser> christophoros: do you have libdvdcss2 installed?
[11:05] <christophoros> just installed the lib u told me above
[11:05] <Conartist> can you see it?
[11:05] <Starnestommy> Conartist: did you try this? sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
[11:06] <Starnestommy> yes.
[11:06] <Conartist> now i will try it brb
[11:06] <Sep1> Oki, having a problem configuring the fglrx driver for a Radeon 9600. I simply revert to safe graphics mode upon boot. Tried compiling it myself, but didn't help.
[11:06] <nsetiono> i just want to run iptables :(
[11:07] <ChaosParser> Conartist: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=661102
[11:07] <mrgozinyah> http://www.mindblowingidea.com/Ultumix
[11:08] <ChaosParser> nsetiono: What do you mean?  They're there, they're always there.
[11:08] <Conartist> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62304/
[11:08] <christophoros> ChaosParsel i just got lib u told me to download
[11:08] <Conartist> i did sudo modprobe
[11:08] <SlimG> "dpkg --configure -a" reports that I have several syntax-errors in /var/lib/dpkg/updates/003 , is it safe to remove all the files in the /var/lib/dpkg-updates/ folder and regenerate them using "aptitude update" ?
[11:08] <Conartist> there s the link
[11:08] <nsetiono> ChaosParser : but i can't run it
[11:08] <brandon> hey!
[11:08] <ChaosParser> christophoros: Reboot and try it again.
[11:08] <ChaosParser> nsetiono: Elaborate?
[11:08] <christophoros> ChaosParsel ok
[11:08] <mrgozinyah> huh
[11:09] <nsetiono> it's always show me error like this FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.22-8-server/modules.dep: No such file or directory
[11:09] <gnuskool> wow, enlightenment rox, hey ne1 running it as their only wm on a server install?
[11:09] <mrgozinyah> this version looks kinda neat
[11:09] <Conartist> so?
[11:09] <steve___> cd
[11:09] <steve___> exit
[11:09] <Conartist> there s a problem in there....warning..
[11:09] <Conartist> as you can see
[11:09] <nsetiono> i had try to recompile kernel based on this url http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21
[11:09] <Starnestommy> nsetiono: what happens when you try to 'cd /lib/modules/2.6.22-8-server/'?
[11:09] <nsetiono> Starnestommy : none
[11:09] <Conartist> could no open lib..
[11:10] <Starnestommy> nsetiono: what happens when you do that they type 'ls'?
[11:10] <nsetiono> -bash: cd: /lib/modules/2.6.22-8-server/: No such file or directory
[11:10] <ChaosParser> nsetiono: How are you trying to access it?
[11:10] <nsetiono> ChaosParser : what you mean ?
[11:10] <zoom_> where can i configure my resolution on my screen out plug please ?
[11:10] <nsetiono> Starnestommy : type ls on which ?
[11:10] <kecebongsoft> hi
[11:10] <Starnestommy> nsetiono: never mind
[11:10] <Sep1> Okay, having a problem vconfiguring the fglrx driver for a Radeon 9600. I simply revert to safe graphics mode.
[11:10] <Conartist> so, what should i do next??
[11:10] <nsetiono> please i'm really new on this
[11:11] <Starnestommy> nsetiono: I think you need to reinstall the kernel with these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeKernel
[11:11] <Conartist> what should i do next guys??
[11:11] <ChaosParser> nsetiono: How are you trying to edit iptables?  Are you using a GUI frontend like firestarter?  It sounds like you may have recompiled wrong... and you're missing modules.
[11:11] <nsetiono> ChaosParser : nope using console
[11:11] <weltschmerz> Conartist get some elderly people for their social security checks.
[11:12] <ChaosParser> Conartist: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=661102
[11:12] <tobmaif> hi sry but np
[11:12] <ChaosParser> nsetiono: Try installing firestarter and see what happens when you try to launch it.
[11:12] <Conartist> chaos, i should do the steps there?
[11:12] <ChaosParser> Conartist: yes.
[11:12] <Conartist> ok
[11:12] <nsetiono> ChaosParser : it was my server and i don't have X access on it :)
[11:12] <kecebongsoft> hi, I had a problem with my intel x3100 (acer aspire 4720), I install gutsy and type glxinfo, it says Direct Rendering : no, I already load dri module in xorg.conf but still got no direct rendering :-(.
[11:13] <kecebongsoft> but i got direct rendering enabled when running with gutsy live cd
[11:13] <kecebongsoft> i try so many tutorial on the net but still got the same thing :-(
[11:13] <Starnestommy> nsetiono: try 'sudo aptitude reinstall linux-image-server' to reinstall the kernel
[11:13] <nonie_> hello, ia m running xubuntu using gsambad to configure my box as a samba server
[11:14] <nsetiono> Starnestommy : linux-image-server is not currently installed, so it will not be reinstalled.
[11:14] <kecebongsoft> anyone have experience with this?
[11:14] <Starnestommy> nsetiono: replace 'reinstall' with 'install'
[11:14] <nsetiono> yep
[11:14] <nsetiono> already
[11:14] <nsetiono> wait
[11:14] <nonie_> but everytime i open my machine it i have to reactivate using gsambad because it gives me an error
[11:15] <nonie_> nmbd is not activated.
[11:15] <sebrock> doesnt PureFTP let you configure directories and limits on users on sertain dirs?
[11:15] <nonie_> but when i deactivate and reactivate the nmbd gets activated.
[11:15] <nonie_> any suggenstion.
[11:16] <jimcooncat> What's the default player for internet radio? I added a bunch and I don't remember what it originally came with.
[11:16] <nonie_> anybody please?
[11:17] <algyz> jimcooncat:  streamtuner
[11:17] <christophoros> ChaosParsel nothink yet :/
[11:17] <mettao87> hi
[11:17] <jimcooncat> algyz: no, I remember I had to add that.
[11:18] <nsetiono> Starnestommy : Could not find where the current root file system is mounted!
[11:18] <jimcooncat> algyz: that's just an index anyway, xmms is the player. thanks though
[11:18] <Starnestommy> nsetiono: in that case, I think something's seriuosly wrong
[11:19] <Cew27> ello all i have a problem, when i open evolution it goes to petch mail (about 100 messages or so ) and then closes its self >
[11:19] <nsetiono> Starnestommy : i know something wrong but i don't know which one cause i'm not an expert :(
[11:19] <Sep1> Okay, having a problem vconfiguring the fglrx driver for a Radeon 9600. I simply revert to safe graphics mode.
[11:20] <Starnestommy> nsetiono: neither can I.  There's a possiblilty that you may need to do a total reinstall, but I'm not sure if there's another way
[11:20] <kecebongsoft> any suggestion :-(
[11:20] <mrgozinyah> weeee
[11:21] <[[thufir]]> http://localhost/phpMyAdmin/  just gives 404 error
[11:21] <jim> nsetiono: do you have to be an expert to see cause?
[11:21] <p1r4t3> i have just reinstalled linux, and i figured out that the restricted drivers that are for my on-board modem, somehow disrupt the sound on the laptop.... so now those drivers are disabled and i have sound!!!! and i had to re-install ubuntu... anyways... just wanted to say that the new and improved laptop is now running linux and it just said goodbye to gates SW.  tnx all.. cya.
[11:21] <Starnestommy> [[thufir]]: try it as http://localhost/phpmyadmin/
[11:21] <Cew27> ello all i have a problem, when i open evolution it goes to petch mail (about 100 messages or so ) and then closes its self can anyone help ??
[11:21] <CaptainMorgan> is it possible to view source files for common unix/linux/ubuntu utilities ? I would like to see how unzip is written... for example.. but I can't seem to find its source
[11:22] <nsetiono> jim : for know the error no need to become expert, for fixing the error need expert :)
[11:22] <Starnestommy> CaptainMorgan: there's usually a URL in the program's man or info page
[11:23] <jim> nsetiono: you didn't say fix before... you said "i don't know which one cause i'm not an expert"
[11:23] <simplexio> CaptainMorgan: apt-get source unzip
[11:23] <[[thufir]]> Starnestommy: http://localhost/phpmyadmin/  also gives a 404 error
[11:23] <Starnestommy> [[thufir]]: is it installed?
[11:23] <Starnestommy> [[thufir]]: and did you restart apache after you installed it?
[11:23] <nsetiono> jim : please do not debate me right now cause i'm stress enough :(
[11:23] <CaptainMorgan> Starnestommy, I did look at the man pages... couldn't find it... it was rather long though so maybe I overlooked it
[11:24] <jim> nsetiono: I'm just telling you you can see cause even if you are not an expert... all you have to do is look
[11:24] <Starnestommy> CaptainMorgan: for unzip, try http://www.info-zip.org/
[11:24] <[[thufir]]> Starnestommy: yes, apache2 is installed, and phpmyadmin has been installed.  I'v restarted services already.  I think it's a configuration problem, but I'm not sure.
[11:24] <nsetiono> Jim : right now i'm trying to search on google, already 12 hours and found nothing :(
[11:25] <Bad_boy> HI Guys, I am new to torrent, how do i run the bit torrent porgram what's the command please, I can not find it in application menu
[11:25] <jim> so you're looking on google?
[11:25] <jim> what machine has the problem?
[11:25] <IndyGunFreak> Bad_boy: well what client did you install?
[11:26] <Cew27> ello all i have a problem, when i open evolution it goes to petch mail (about 100 messages or so ) and then closes its self can anyone help ??
[11:26] <Bad_boy> IndyGunFreak:  bittorrent was installed with Ubuntu
[11:26] <simplexio> nsetiono: what is problem, you cant use iptables ?
[11:26] <Starnestommy> Cew27: start it from the terminal and see what happens
[11:26] <nsetiono> simplexio : ya
[11:26] <IndyGunFreak> Bad_boy: ok, then it should be in the menu, applications/internet
[11:27] <[[thufir]]> what does this mean: "You need to add it to the Apache config files because it only installs a link to the folder in the /var/www/ folder. I'll find the lines that you need in a minute."  with regards to phpmyadmin?
[11:27] <simplexio> nsetiono: modprope iptables gives you what error ?
[11:27] <Bad_boy> IndyGunFreak:  it is not there, I can it installed with add/remove program though
[11:27] <nsetiono> FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.22-8-server/modules.dep: No such file or directory
[11:28] <Cew27> Starnestommy: i get a core dump
[11:28] <esteth> [[thufir]]: It means you need to add something to the conf files at /etc/apache2, assuming apache2
[11:28] <IndyGunFreak> Bad_boy: right click on Applications menu, choose Edit Menu, then go down to Internet, and look and see if you need to put a checkmark next to it.
[11:28] <Starnestommy> Cew27: aha.  Try sudo aptitude reinstall evolution
[11:28] <christophoros> how do i get the codex from this page ?  http://www.gnome.org/projects/totem/#download
[11:28] <Cew27> Starnestommy: ok
[11:28] <esteth> [[thufir]]: most probably apache2.conf or httpd.conf
[11:29] <Seaboss> hihih! are anybody have driver for dm9601 for ubuntu? i have, but it gives errors..
[11:29] <[[thufir]]> esteth: I think I found it.  Maybe it's me, but the manual for phpmyadmin isn't helpful.  thanks, though.
[11:29] <IndyGunFreak> whats that driver for?
[11:29] <Cew27> Starnestommy: didnt help
[11:29] <nsetiono> simplexio : FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.22-8-server/modules.dep: No such file or directory
[11:30] <simplexio> nsetiono: do you haver that directory ?
[11:30] <ultramalf> ultra malf raise tha roof
[11:30] <simplexio> nsetiono: easiest way to fix it is install new kernel with modules
[11:30] <Seaboss> usb network card...
[11:30] <Bad_boy> IndyGunFreak:  Thanks a lot mate, done now
[11:30] <Tama00> whats the coolest gui for subversion gtk based
[11:30] <IndyGunFreak> ok
[11:31] <simplexio> nsetiono: attleast that would be easiest way to me, but for somereason ppl tend to fear compiling new kernels
[11:31] <[[thufir]]> phpmyadmin is up and running I think :)
[11:31] <nsetiono> simplexio : i had following http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21 but seem no effect
[11:31] <IndyGunFreak> Bad_boy: BUT bit torrent isnt a very good torrent client in Linux, at least in my opinion, I'd look at either Transmission, or using Utorrent in Wine
[11:31] <Tama00> Bad_boy, rtorrent:D
[11:32] <IndyGunFreak> never tried rtorrent
[11:32] <Tama00> its seriously good
[11:32] <Bad_boy> IndyGunFreak: thanks for the heads up, i was looking for utorrent for linux, i saw one for wine
[11:32] <ultramalf> Bad_boy: and I write documents in vim or lyx.
[11:32] <Tama00> image utorrent but for cli for linux + 1000x better
[11:32] <ultramalf> so it's all the same to me.
[11:32] <ultramalf> linux is just fine for a desktop
[11:32] <chimp> using chmod how can i set write access to all users symbolically?
[11:32] <Tama00> its easy to use as well
[11:32] <IndyGunFreak> Bad_boy: its easy to install w/ wine
[11:32] <Tama00> dont utorrent wine thats a waste
[11:33] <Simarson> hallo all. I have a problem in ubuntu getting the newest version of wine. I keep installing 0.9.46.
[11:33] <Tama00> it wont be any better than azrueus then
[11:33] <Bad_boy> IndyGunFreak: i have never used wine, i am newbie
[11:33] <simplexio> nsetiono: hmm,
[11:33] <IndyGunFreak> Bad_boy: are you familiar w/ utorrent?
[11:33] <Jan2> hi
[11:33] <IndyGunFreak> damn, netsplit at 6am?... thats a new one
[11:33] <Starnestommy> IndyGunFreak: no, floodbots
[11:33] <IndyGunFreak> oh ok..
[11:33] <Jan2> does anyone else have a problem installing a pci soundcard (like echoaudio mia)?
[11:33] <Jaymac> It isn't 6am everywhere IndyGunFreak  :)
[11:33] <simplexio> nsetiono: make modules && make modules install ??
[11:33] <Bad_boy> IndyGunFreak:  yes i used utorrent with vista
[11:33] <IndyGunFreak> yeah jjst caught that.
[11:34] <IndyGunFreak> Bad_boy: ok, go here, http://www.winehq.org
[11:34] <Jan2> please help
[11:34] <Simarson> anyone there could explain to me how to get the newest version of WINE?
[11:34] <DRebellion> Simarson, sudo apt-get install wine
[11:34] <simplexio> nsetiono: i can give easy instructions to compile kernel. assuming that you have build-essential allready installed
[11:35] <christophoros> how do i get the codex from this page ?  http://www.gnome.org/projects/totem/#download
[11:35] <Starnestommy> Simarson: you have to compile it from source or use the package on their website if you want something newer than what's in the repositories
[11:35] <IndyGunFreak> Bad_boy: once there, click on get wine now, then clcik on "ubuntu", and follow the directions to add the wine repository and install wine.. then i'll tell you how to install utorrent if you want
[11:35] <Starnestommy> christophoros: sudo apt-get install totem-gstreamer
[11:35] <nsetiono> simplexio : can i message you ?
[11:35] <christophoros> ty
[11:35] <Jan2> I've just installed ubuntu "gutsy" and I'm a total newbie at Linux. I get the onboard soundcard working, but it dosen't seem like ubuntu recognizes my pci soundcard
[11:35] <Bad_boy> IndyGunFreak: thanks bud, i am going to get utorrent for wine. Nice one X10 Regards
[11:36] <IndyGunFreak> Bad_boy: its really the best *linux* torrent client if you ask me
[11:36] <DeadLy_sp> IndyGunFreak: deluge?
[11:36] <IndyGunFreak> i hate deluge
[11:36] <IndyGunFreak> Transmission is pretty good.
[11:37] <esteth> Transmission is a very nice client
[11:37] <IndyGunFreak> just not as configurable as Utorrent
[11:37] <DeadLy_sp> deluge also
[11:37] <SeraphAzrael> yep
[11:37] <ChaosParser> Jan2: Are you leaving both enabled in BIOS?
[11:37] <Jan2> It's detected as a hardwar device, and ubuntu does load the module for the soundcard, but it dosen't show up in the volume control window as a managable soundcard
[11:37] <Jan2> anyone???
[11:37] <Jaymac> The main issue I have with Transmission is that I can't hover hte mouse over the tray icon and see my download speed
[11:38] <esteth> Jaymac: you must have an old version
[11:38] <esteth> Jaymac: the latest from getdeb has that
[11:38] <IndyGunFreak> Jaymac: that is kind of annoying
[11:38] <Cew27> hey all ubuntu mounts my disks twice how can i fix this ? i have 2 dvd drivers
[11:38] <esteth> IndyGunFreak: the latest version has that feature, however
[11:38] <Jaymac> esteth: oh really? thanks for the tip.. I'm running 1.06 (build 5136)
[11:38] <IndyGunFreak> does it?..well thats good
[11:38] <hischild> esteth, the one in 7.10 doesn't feature the download speed.
[11:39] <Jan2> does anyone know how to get ubuntu to recognize my pci soundcard?????
[11:39] <Starnestommy> Jan2: it depends on which one it is
[11:39] <esteth> hischild: I know, but if you're willing to download from getdeb or compile from scratch, it's there in 1.10(5428)
[11:39] <christophoros> Starnestommy i dowload it but when i go to play dvd it says i dont have the codecs
[11:39] <ultramalf> christophoros: that's rather annoying that I can't do any more about it
[11:39] <esteth> Jaymac: It's there in 1.10(5428)
[11:39] <Jaymac> esteth: cool, thanks
[11:39] <Starnestommy> christophoros: have you tried libdvdcss?
[11:40] <elliot42> hey, can someone help me diagnose a problem.. i had sound working on a comp and now it doesn't after transplanting to a new case.
[11:40] <IndyGunFreak> christophoros: add the medibuntu repository, and install libdvdcss, then you should be fine...
[11:40] <christophoros> i installed it but i cant see it in sound and video menu
[11:40] <elliot42> the card is detected in lspci (it's a Cmedia CM3738
[11:40] <|WolF|> question: i have an unusued partition, so can i merge to my user existing partition, or how can i make this partition to be able to use it as additional space? when i create partition ext3 after formating it says to me that it is owned by root so i cant save anything on it
[11:40] <IndyGunFreak> christophoros: ?.. are you sure libdvdcss is installed?
[11:41] <elliot42> modules are loaded automatically
[11:41] <Jan2> Starnestommy: It's a echoaudio mia-midi pci soundcard. Ubuntu recognizes the card as a pci device (lspci shows good output), but it dosen't show up in aplay -l. Hence I can't get the card working
[11:41] <Cew27> hey all ubuntu mounts my disks twice how can i fix this ? i have 2 dvd drives
[11:41] <christophoros> a guy told me to download lib
[11:41] <christophoros> not libdvdcss
[11:41] <elliot42> but there's nothing available to alsamixer or aplay or anything
[11:41] <Jaymac> christophoros: you should use totem-xine instead of totem-gstreamer for dvd playback :)
[11:41] <IndyGunFreak> christophoros: well, that doesn't mean its installed correctly
[11:41] <IndyGunFreak> !libdvdcss | christophoros
[11:41] <ubotu> christophoros: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[11:42] <christophoros> !Medibuntu
[11:42] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[11:43] <mmm4m5m> Question: Hi all. I am learning vim and how to custimize it. Can someone give me a hint: is there difference between vim macros, vim script, vim addons and vimrc (setup file)?
[11:43] <orthodoc> is medibuntu not available for hardy??
[11:43] <Jaymac> christophoros: use medibuntu to install libdvdread3 adn libdvdcss2, and install totem-xine
[11:43] <Jan2> Starnestommy: I would really appreciate any help?
[11:43] <esteth> mmm4m5m: #vim might be more help
[11:43] <IndyGunFreak> orthodoc: it is, but just like hardy, its still in beta
[11:43] <Jaymac> orthodoc: see #ubuntu+1, but yes it is.
[11:43] <orthodoc> ok...
[11:43] <Starnestommy> Jan2: I'm sorry, but I do not know anything about that soundcard
[11:43] <IndyGunFreak> orthodoc: google for it... you'll find it
[11:43] <|WolF|> can & will anyone help me pls?
[11:43] <orthodoc> is it avialble for x64
[11:43] <Jaymac> !ask | |WolF|
[11:43] <ubotu> |WolF|: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[11:43] <|WolF|> question: i have an unusued partition, so can i merge to my user existing partition, or how can i make this partition to be able to use it as additional space? when i create partition ext3 after formating it says to me that it is owned by root so i cant save anything on it]
[11:44] <PookAir> Hi, Any one know how to install hebrew on ubuntu?
[11:44] <Luigix> hi
[11:44] <Starnestommy> orthodoc: it is.
[11:44] <|WolF|> Jaymac: i did but no one answered :(
[11:44] <Jan2> Starnestommy: Ok! But thanks anyway :)
[11:44] <orthodoc> i've kubuntu on a amd 64bit and some of the packages are missing!
[11:44] <Jaymac> PookAir: System > Administration > Language Support... Tick the box beside Hebrew :)
[11:44] <erUSUL> !addingfs | |WolF|
[11:44] <ubotu> |WolF|: If you are adding space to your Ubuntu installation mounting a newly created unix filesystem (ext3, xfs, jfs, etc) you can not set permissions (read, write, etc) filesystem-wide like you do when mounting filesystems that do not support unix permissions (vfat, ntfs, hfs, etc).  See !permissions and !fstab
[11:44] <orthodoc> do i report that to medibuntu...
[11:45] <Starnestommy> orthodoc: which version of ubuntu?
[11:45] <orthodoc> i knoe not of any forum where i could do that...
[11:45] <jimmo> hi
[11:45] <PookAir> Jaymac, wow I feel awfully stupid now
[11:45] <orthodoc> kubuntu gutsy
[11:45] <Cew27> hey all ubuntu mounts my disks twice how can i fix this ? i have 2 dvd drive
[11:45] <IndyGunFreak> orthodoc: depends on what you think is broken
[11:45] <hischild> |WolF|, do you have a /home partition?
[11:45] <PookAir> Jaymac, that's it I dont even need the disc?
[11:45] <Jaymac> PookAir: there are no stupid questions :) if in doubt, ask :)
[11:45] <|WolF|> hischild: yes i do
[11:45] <mmm4m5m> Question: nautilus can show me "last accessed time", how can I get all file details in console? "ls -l" does not list all columns which are available in nautilus.
[11:46] <Jaymac> PookAir: All you  need to do is tick the box and click OK... Everything you  need will be downloaded and installed
[11:46] <|WolF|> !fstab
[11:46] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[11:46] <orthodoc> IndyGunFreak: plenty of packages actually...
[11:46] <IndyGunFreak> orthodoc: so what was msising?
[11:46] <hischild> |WolF|, and you wish to attempt to merge your current /home with the unused stuff?
[11:46] <head> hello the room
[11:46] <orthodoc> i don't have the list with me at the momnet...
[11:46] <PookAir> Jaymac, thats the good thing about ubuntu the online libary,one last thing what irc programe can i use with ubuntu?
[11:46] <head> what append
[11:46] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[11:46] <Armada> everytime I boot it goes to the command-line and says my root partition (/dev/sda3/) has errors and a check was forced. But it does that every boot, how can I solve it?
[11:47] <orthodoc> IndyGunFreak: am on my laptop...
[11:47] <Starnestommy> PookAir: xchat and irssi are two of them
[11:47] <Jaymac> PookAir: Try xchat, or xchat-gnome :)
[11:47] <IndyGunFreak> PookAir: there's several, xchat, or xchat-gnome should b efine
[11:47] <|WolF|> hischild: my idea actualy need is for more space so i have a new partition that i want to make able to use it some how, but i don't know how
[11:47] <Slart> Armada: if I were you I'd boot from a live cd and check your boot drive thoroughly
[11:47] <head> do you  have somebody who speak french?
[11:47] <ChaosParser> Armada: Well, what are the results of the fsck?
[11:47] <dejx> hello, does anybody here own polycom?
[11:47] <orthodoc> was wondering if there was any other repository other than medibuntu
[11:47] <PookAir> Thanks
[11:47] <Slart> !fr | head
[11:47] <Jaymac> !fr | head
[11:47] <ubotu> head: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:47] <christophoros> jaymac i downloaded lib but i cant see "lib" anywhere in sound and video menu
[11:47] <hischild> |WolF|, alright. Do you know what spot you wish to mount it at?
[11:47] <Armada> Slart: I can't boot the live cd
[11:47] <Jaymac> christophoros: you won't.. type totem-xine in a terminal.
[11:47] <jimmo> i need help,i cant install my ati driver;i tried making the .deb from .run file ;and then installed them;but after the reboot the os show me a black screen;
[11:48] <Armada> Slart: I can only install in text mode
[11:48] <IndyGunFreak> Armada: why not?
[11:48] <steven> join #latex
[11:48] <orthodoc> any dicom viewer like opendicom...
[11:48] <|WolF|> hischild: i'm not experienced in this at all, i need the partition to act as part of my user so i can be able to record on it
[11:48] <Armada> IndyGunFreak: If I knew I'd solve it, it justs freezes
[11:48] <|WolF|> record-=save
[11:48] <Madroxprime> Hey quick question. Would any one know why Wine stopped working after I installed Envy and updated My nvidia drivers?
[11:48] <Slart> Armada: oh?... hmm.. does the text mode installer have some kind of live shell or something? I've never used it
[11:48] <Jaymac> christophoros: Go to System > Preferences > Main Menu and Sound and Video, tick the Totem-Xine programme so it appears in your list
[11:48] <Slart> Madroxprime: envy would be answer enough
[11:48] <esteth> !envy | Madroxprime
[11:48] <ubotu> Madroxprime: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[11:48] <christophoros> jaymac bash: totem-xine: command not found :/ (told u am new to linux world) ;p
[11:49] <IndyGunFreak> Armada: how fast did yuou burn the ISO?
[11:49] <Jan2> anyone out there that could help me with getting Ubuntu to recognize my pci echoaudio mia soundcard? Only the onboard is recognized...
[11:49] <Jan2> PLease
[11:49] <hischild> |WolF|, i understand. My question was whether you want to mount it as a folder in your home folder, or somewhere else
[11:49] <Jaymac> christophoros: sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[11:49] <twosouls82> omg(osh), this is not so nice; the upgraded modules package doesnn't have ".../ubuntu/security/apparmor/apparmor.ko"... that's why apparmor broke on my boxes
[11:49] <Armada> Slart: It also loads the linux kernel but doesn't boot ubuntu
[11:49] <|WolF|> hischild: if can be mounted as folder in homefolder it would be perfect
[11:50] <Armada> IndyGunFreak: 48x
[11:50] <IndyGunFreak> Armada: don't know what instructions you followed, but you burn ISOs SLOWWww
[11:50] <IndyGunFreak> 2-4x is best
[11:50] <hischild> |WolF|, ok. Before going further, it'd be wise to backup your current fstab ==> sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bac
[11:50] <barbedsabe1> like 4x if possible
[11:50] <Madroxprime> Okay, SO envy is a fancy way of saying epic failure
[11:50] <Slart> Armada: hmm.. that makes it tricky ... a possible broken boot drive and can't boot from a live cd..
[11:50] <|WolF|> hischild: i did that
[11:51] <Slart> Madroxprime: indeed
[11:51] <Armada> IndyGunFreak: Then why is the text-mode cd working? I also burned that one at 48x
[11:51] <hischild> |WolF|, good. Then let's go on. Do you know the location of your new partition? (assuming you formatted it and gave it a filesystem etc)
[11:51] <esteth> Madroxprime: Envy is unsupported by ubuntu. You should try to use the restricted drivers manager to install non-free drivers
[11:51] <Slart> Madroxprime: well.. not necessarily.. but it's been known to mess things up beyond fixability
[11:51] <ultramalf> hischild:  in the kernel, there is an option called UEVENT_HELPER_PATH.
[11:51] <ultramalf> it is set to /sbin/hotplug, but no such file exists.
[11:51] <ultramalf> which hotplug also.
[11:51] <ultramalf> sorry.
[11:51] <ultramalf> "which hotplug" run as root returns no location
[11:51] <FloodBot2> ultramalf: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:51] <ultramalf> FloodBot2: that's a bald-faced lie
[11:51] <christophoros> jaymac whats the download command for the lib again ?
[11:51] <hischild> ultramalf, wrong nick?
[11:52] <jimmo> i also tried restoring the xorg.conf back up file ...but it ddnot work
[11:52] <|WolF|> hischild: it is unpartitioned att all, so should i partition it as ext3 i guess?
[11:52] <Jaymac> christophoros: once you've added the !Medibuntu repository, type: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libdvdread3 libdvdcss2 totem-xine
[11:52] <Madroxprime> Well the restricted driver i was using was making my entire hardware lock randomly when I was doing anything 3d-ish like wow
[11:52] <IndyGunFreak> Armada: do as you want, it doesn't matter to me, but the GUI CD is a lot more sensitive to errors than the text mode cd
[11:52] <IndyGunFreak> or you have some sort of hardware issue
[11:52] <hischild> |WolF|, you can choose the file-system actually. They all have their advantages and disadvantages. ext3 is default for ubuntu and should work just fine.
[11:52] <Jaymac> christophoros: then you should be good to go, simply click Movie > Play DVD
[11:53] <Slart> Madroxprime: what video card?
[11:53] <speps> hey guys i'm getting mad with this error on compilation "error: cannot compute sizeof (char)" PLEASE HELP!
[11:53] <|WolF|> hischild: ok i did that
[11:53] <Madroxprime> nvidia 7600gs.
[11:53] <Starnestommy> speps: is build-essential installed?
[11:53] <Slart> speps: have you installed build-essential?
[11:53] <Slart> speps: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:53] <hischild> |WolF|, ok good. Then you know the location of the drive? (like /dev/sdb1
[11:54] <Slart> Madroxprime: hmm.. odd.. nvidia cards are usually pretty well supported..
[11:54] <christophoros> jay mac libdvdread3 is already the newest version.
[11:54] <christophoros> libdvdread3 set to manual installed.
[11:54] <christophoros> Package libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:54] <Armada> IndyGunFreak: I've been having a problem with the RAM, it doesn't bother me that much as it doesn't interupt my usage not even in games. And I don't have the money right now to fix it.
[11:54] <|WolF|> hischild: it is /dev/sda8
[11:54] <speps> Starnestommy, Slart: i have build-essential
[11:54] <suxxor> i`m running only on ubuntu how can install windows ?
[11:54] <Jaymac> christophoros: did you add the medibuntu repository?
[11:54] <Starnestommy> speps: what are you trying to compile?
[11:54] <ChaosParser> Madroxprime: Uhm, I have the card... I've installed it using Envy and sucessfully ran WoW in Wine.
[11:54] <esteth> suxxor: do you want to remove ubuntu?
[11:54] <suxxor> no
[11:55] <speps> Starnestommy: animal-0.15.0
[11:55] <hischild> |WolF|, alright. Then open up your /etc/fstab in any editor and add it in there.
[11:55] <christophoros> jaymac tell me how to :/// omg i feel so noob :/
[11:55] <suxxor> i want to run with both systems
[11:55] <Starnestommy> speps: have you done everything in the readme and install files?
[11:55] <Slart> speps: can you paste the output of ./configure ?
[11:55] <suxxor> and i want so save the date of ubuntu partions
[11:55] <Jaymac> christophoros: are you using 7.10? (System > About Ubuntu)
[11:56] <esteth> suxxor: traditionally it's done with windows first, then adding linux, but you can go the other way too. Is any of your hard drive unpartitioned?
[11:56] <Armada> I'll test my live CD in another computer to make sure it's a hardware issue
[11:56] <Starnestommy> suxxor: if you're installing windows xp, I think you have to install windows first then install linux
[11:56] <Madroxprime> Chaos: Cool, but when I try to do any thing wine related it tells me I got an unhandled illegal instruction in the 32-bit code
[11:56] <speps> Starnestommy: yes i have just compiled successfully imageshack last version as requirement for animal but i get checking size of char... configure: error: cannot compute sizeof (char)
[11:56] <speps> See `config.log' for more details.
[11:56] <Jaymac> christophoros: if you're using version 7.10 type this to a commandline: sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/gutsy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[11:56] <Slart> speps: pastebin.. I meant pastebin.. don't paste it here
[11:56] <|WolF|> hischild: u mean i should write in fstab a line that will state # /dev/sda8 ?
[11:56] <manju29> when i type #apt-get install dh_make its saying no installation candidate....wat sources i shd add in my sources.list?
[11:56] <twosouls82> Starnestommy: that's so untrue
[11:56] <Jaymac> christophoros: then type wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update
[11:57] <hischild> |WolF|, close. If you pastebin your current fstab i will write it for you.
[11:57] <eliubile> happy Sunday
[11:57] <Jaymac> christophoros: then repeat the earlier command i sent you (the one to install libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 with totem-xine)
[11:57] <suxxor> yes i`ve hot 10 gb unpartioned
[11:57] <Jaymac> got to go
[11:57] <eliubile> I need help: gnome doesn't start. It freezes displaying just my desktop background
[11:58] <Cahan> man, we need a distro "Ubuntu From Scratch" that is basically the desktop but without ANY bloat at all (no programs or utils apart from Apt), that would be so awesome
[11:58] <ensi> so its not possible to have nvidia 7 series working under lates ubuntu. mkay
[11:58] <hischild> Cahan, use the minimal install (like i do right now)
[11:58] <|WolF|> hischild: it is not alowing me to save it
[11:58] <suxxor> esteth: is that enough
[11:58] <Slart> Cahan: isn't there a minimial install?
[11:58] <christophoros> jaymac done it
[11:58] <Armada> ensi: What's the problem?
[11:58] <esteth> suxxor: You install XP to the "unpartitioned space" with the standard XP installation procedure, but then you need to reinstate grub as the bootloader. http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_linux_and_windows_xp_linux_installed_first.htm has a good guide on how to do that. Allthough you can miss out the first part if you're happy with 10GB for xp
[11:59] <hischild> |WolF|, can you copy your current fstab on pastebin? ==> sudo aptitude install pastebinit && cat /etc/fstab | pastebinit (return link in channel please. )
[11:59] <speps> Slart: http://pastebin.com/d28d0df58
[11:59] <ensi> Armada: i cant get it to work with the nvidia binary driver.
[11:59] <Cahan> hischild, from the LiveCD? or Alternate CD? (I've only used Xubuntu / Kubuntu since Dapper)
[11:59] <ensi> Armada: with the restricted drivers i had the black screen problem
[11:59] <speps> Starnestommy: http://pastebin.com/d28d0df58
[11:59] <esteth> suxxor: 10GB is enough to install windows and some apps, yes. It won't be enough for gaming, in general. You can use the windows ext2ifs(i think that's what it's called) driver to access your linux partition from windows and store your files there, though
[11:59] <ensi> binary drivers from nvidia just refuse to work and x starts with failsafe :/
[11:59] <twosouls82> why doesn't apparmor work when I boot the 2.6.24-15-generic kernel (using Hardy), it does when I boot instead of 2.6.24-14-generic
[11:59] <twosouls82> ?
[12:00] <hischild> Cahan, install a command line system only, and then add only those packages you want. I've only installed fluxbox, xorg and some programs i always use like xchat and transmission.
[12:00] <Armada> ensi: k, so you want to manually install the drivers downloaded from nvidia.com?
[12:00] <Cahan> suxxor, I've got XP + a load of apps down to 700Mb
[12:00] <ensi> Armada: i have done that.
[12:00] <eliubile> I need help: gnome doesn't start. It freezes displaying just my desktop background
[12:00] <Armada> ensi: Same problem?
[12:00] <|WolF|> hischild: here it is http://pastebin.com/d12f084c7
[12:00] <twosouls82> sorry, I went to +1
[12:00] <ensi> Armada: no, the problem is something else. dunno what
[12:00] <Celettu> hi all...I have a grub problem with hardy beta. Every time it installs (or updates because of a kernel update), it writes the menu.lst wrong. Ubuntu is on (hd0,1) or sda2...but it keeps writing (hd0,0) and hda1
[12:00] <suxxor> esteth: 10x
[12:01] <esteth> suxxor: what does 10x mean?
[12:01] <Armada> ensi: Could you be a bit more detailed on "black screen problem"?
[12:01] <|WolF|> 10x=thanks
[12:01] <Starnestommy> speps: is imagemagick or imagemagick-dev installed?
[12:01] <Cahan> hischild, thankee
[12:01] <ensi> Armada: just google for it
[12:01] <esteth> |WolF|: thanks :)
[12:01] <Armada> k
[12:01] <ensi> Armada: its all over the place with people having nvidia 7-8 series gfx cards
[12:01] <|WolF|> welcomed :P
[12:01] <hischild> Cahan, if you want help with that, just ask :-)
[12:01] <speps> Starnestommy: yes from source
[12:01] <jimmo> no help??
[12:01] <Madroxprime> ensi: yeah it looks like it
[12:01] <Starnestommy> speps: what about from the repos?
[12:02] <Cahan> hischild, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9670 seems to be what I'm looking for, right?
[12:02] <Celettu> nobody? :)
[12:02] <Starnestommy> jimmo: you may need to ask your question again
[12:02] <Armada> ensi: I have a 8800GTS 512 (ubuntu doesn't support it by default) and I'm not having any problems
[12:02] <ensi> Armada: how did you get it to work?
[12:03] <speps> Starnestommy: i need scilab with sip last version ... so i have to download all the matter
[12:03] <hischild> Cahan, sort of. I prefer to use fluxbox with conky as system monitor instead of icewm.
[12:03] <speps> and compile
[12:03] <jimmo>  i need help,i cant install my ati driver;i tried making the .deb from .run file ;and then installed them;but after the reboot the os show me a black screen;
[12:03] <hischild> |WolF|, a second, i'm writing it again
[12:03] <Cahan> hischild, or is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems better?
[12:03] <ultramalf> jimmo: they just dont work.
[12:03] <ultramalf> yea.
[12:03] <ultramalf> but i cant get gift to wrk.
[12:03] <ultramalf> you people just dont comprehend basic concepts
[12:03] <FloodBot2> ultramalf: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:03] <ultramalf> FloodBot2: wtf
[12:03] <|WolF|> hischild: ok mate i'll wait :D
[12:03] <ensi> Armada: i have been trying to reinstall/uninstall the restricted drivers and nvidia driver. and at one point i got it to use the nvidia binary driver. but then the Glx wouldnt load so 3d accel was not available.
[12:03] <Armada> ensi: I installed the manual drivers from nvidia.com using these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual
[12:03] <Starnestommy> ultramalf: keep your messages on one line
[12:03] <esteth> ultramalf: too many newlines
[12:04] <ultramalf> Starnestommy:  your client
[12:04] <Starnestommy> ultramalf: no, everyone's client
[12:04] <askand> Anyone here has added the winerepo? Can you check what your wineversion is from there? It wont give me the latest version..
[12:04] <jimmo>  i also tried restoring the xorg.conf back up file ...but it ddnot work
[12:04] <Armada> ensi: I've tried both the stable and the beta drivers, both working fine
[12:04] <ultramalf> esteth:  Many cars, shiny ones, coasted up to the ship to look that was slipping and disintegrating back d own layer by layer
[12:04] <ultramalf> Starnestommy: er
[12:04] <ensi> Armada: is that the nvidia drivers from the nvidia package or by ubuntu packaged drivers?
[12:04] <manju29> i get t following error " Package fakeroot has no installation candidate
[12:04] <manju29> "what i should i do?
[12:04] <esteth> ultramalf: wtf?
[12:04] <Starnestommy> wait, now I'm confused
[12:04] <ultramalf> esteth: rarely more than a half-dozen
[12:04] <Armada> ensi: from nvidia.co
[12:04] <hischild> Cahan, sounds good.
[12:05] <Armada> *com
[12:05] <esteth> !offtopic | ultramalf
[12:05] <ubotu> ultramalf: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:05] <Starnestommy> speps: is autoconf installed?
[12:05] <ultramalf> ubotu: sure
[12:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sure - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:05] <Cahan> hischild, thanks for the help mate!
[12:05] <ensi> Armada: what version?
[12:05] <hischild> |WolF|, what do you want the folder to be called?
[12:05] <Armada> IndyGunFreak: The live CD is working fine on my other PC
[12:05] <ensi> Armada: i have the 169.12 and the installation appears to go fine
[12:05] <|WolF|> hischild: storage will be ok
[12:06] <Armada> ensi: I'm using the beta drivers 171.06, but I wouldn't reccomend it
[12:06] <hischild> |WolF|, and it's ext3?
[12:06] <IndyGunFreak> Armada: i will say, iv'e had 1 live CD work on one PC, not work on another, and after a reburn, it worked fine on both, but it sounds like you ahve some sort of hardware issue on the other PC
[12:06] <askand> !polish
[12:06] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[12:06] <|WolF|> hischild:  yes
[12:07] <Armada> IndyGunFreak: yes I do, the RAM acts strange sometime, I think it's a compatibility issue with my motherboard. But it doesn't bother me and I don't have the money to fix it
[12:07] <hischild> |WolF|, ok. type this ==> gksudo gedit /etc/fstab <== and copy this pastebin in (copy from the lower part to avoid copying line numbers) ==>http://pastebin.com/m4658bb4e
[12:07] <ensi> Armada: so you dont have any shite from the ubuntu packages?
[12:07] <ensi> Armada: no glx-new, or restricted modules driver?
[12:08] <ensi> Armada: im on ubuntu 7.10
[12:08] <Armada> ensi: You need to delete those if you want to use the drivers from nvidia.com
[12:08] <ensi> Armada: uninstall from synaptic sufficient or something else?
[12:09] <Armada> ensi: Yes, then follow the instructions on ensi: follow the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual
[12:09] <|WolF|> hischild: i did what u told me, so what should i do now?
[12:09] <binarical-app> can someone point me to the ubuntu installer channel please'
[12:09] <ensi> Armada: ok, i'll try that
[12:09] <hischild> binarical-app, you're at it. What's up?
[12:09] <ensi> Armada: thanks
[12:09] <Armada> ensi: np, hope it works ;)
[12:10] <ensi> i hope so too... however i dont have high hopes at this stage anymore...
[12:10] <Armada> ensi: I can even play TF2 with 60fps on mine :D
[12:10] <hischild> |WolF|, then type ==> mkdir ~/storage <== and then ==> sudo mount -a <== and you should be good.
[12:10] <Celettu> grub doesn't find stage one...error 15 file not found
[12:10] <ensi> Armada: what about that libgl-mesa-dri shit?
[12:10] <Starnestommy> !language | ensi
[12:10] <ubotu> ensi: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[12:10] <ensi> Armada: can i leave that or should i get rid of that too?
[12:10] <Armada> ensi: wait, I think I have a list somewhere
[12:12] <|WolF|> hischild: it says to me that it dasn't exist & i got this http://pastebin.com/d327bf3d1
[12:12] <Armada> ensi: you NEED to keep the mesa packages, just delete all the nvidia-glx packages
[12:12] <ensi> ok
[12:12] <ensi> ta
[12:12] <hischild> |WolF|, i'm sorry, that was a very stupid mistake from my end.
[12:13] <|WolF|> hischild: it is ok mate, don't worry
[12:13] <titon> hi i just installed vmwre and is about to install windows xp...should i chose ntfs or fat?
[12:13] <titon> vmware
[12:13] <Starnestommy> titon: ntfs
[12:13] <hischild> |WolF|, the upper 2 errors are probably because it can't find a partition, which isn't bad. The other one you should fix as follows ==> gksudo /etc/fstab <== and where you see /home/storage, you should make it your full home folder (/home/iositd/ for example) and then add /storage again. Then save and retry the ==> sudo mount -a <==
[12:13] <titon> i want to be able to reach the files on the vmware from my xubuntu
[12:14] <Armada> ensi: btw in one step you need to comment out a line in xorg.conf, that is not present on every install, if you don't have it feel free to skip it, what's important is that you change nv to nvidia
[12:14] <minisu> I want to update to the latest PostgreSQL (8.3). Update manager says nothing about it, but it can be found on packages.ubuntu.com
[12:14] <minisu> It's just a pain to download everything manually, including all dependencies
[12:15] <hischild> !info postgresql
[12:15] <ubotu> postgresql (source: postgresql-8.2): object-relational SQL database (latest version). In component main, is optional. Version 8.2.7-0ubuntu0.7.10 (gutsy), package size 177 kB, installed size 216 kB
[12:15] <Armada> ensi: in which I mean the line isn't present on every install, the file is, that's a very important file
[12:15] <titon> so if i wanna share files from my windows xp virtual machine to my host xubuntu how do i do that? through a share in the guest os
[12:15] <hischild> minisu, as you can see it's at 8.2 for gutsy atm.
[12:15] <minisu> hischild: ok I see
[12:15] <ensi> Armada: what, xorg.conf? :)
[12:16] <Armada> ensi: You mean you didn't edit it?
[12:16] <roguyu> Hey guys I have dual monitors setup but I can't for the life of me get it to work the way I want.  I am using ubuntu gutsy with an ati9 radeon x700 and a laptop screeen and external lcd screen.  When I put the mouse to the right of the laptop screen it goes to the external monitor.  However the external monitor is physically to the left of the laptop so i want the mouse to goto the left then goto the screen?
[12:16] <binarical-app> !xorg.conf
[12:16] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:16] <roguyu> HOw do i acheieve that?
[12:16] <ensi> Armada: i have been editing xorg.conf all day long.. (;
[12:17] <Armada> ensi: k, like in the instructions?
[12:17] <loler> how to burn iso file on cd like image?
[12:17] <Armada> ensi: and linux-restricted-modules-common too?
[12:18] <|WolF|> hischild: i still got eroor http://pastebin.com/m12db5aa8
[12:18] <ensi> Armada: just checking the instructions but basically i have a working xorg.conf but only if the driver is "nv". if the driver is "nvidia" it falls back on failsafe.
[12:18] <kelvin911> how come the spell check doesnt work in my openoffice?
[12:18] <Armada> ensi: it will fall back if the install failed
[12:19] <hischild> |WolF|, that's correct. Those 2 are from another partition, one that possibly doesn't exist. Type mount and see if there's a line that says /home/<username>/storage now.
[12:19] <titon> yea ntfs for sure since it supports large files....cant share it anyway
[12:19] <Armada> ensi: just use the guide, begin from the start and you should be ok
[12:19] <ensi> Armada: ok ill try
[12:19]  * Twigathy waves
[12:19] <eric_> hello
[12:20] <|WolF|> hischild: here is what i get when i type mount
[12:20] <|WolF|> hischild: http://pastebin.com/m64ecd265
[12:20] <Eric_Jardas> hello
[12:20] <Eric_Jardas> I need some help guys
[12:20] <roguyu> ANYONE!?!?!?
[12:20] <Armada> ensi: ah I found the list in the guide: "Using Synaptic or Apt, uninstall nvidia-glx, nvidia-glx-legacy, nvidia-glx-new and nvidia-settings if they are installed."
[12:21] <Twigathy> I'm having trouble with vmware-server, it's deciding not to power on any VMs at all. Logfile here: http://paste.lisp.org/display/58683
[12:21] <hischild> |WolF|, as you can see, line 17 says it's mounted like it should. That's good. Now, one last step before you can actually use it. type this to make it YOUR partition instead of root ==> sudo chown theone:theone -R /home/theone/storage
[12:21] <Eric_Jardas> I have ubuntu installed and I am about to install windows xp..so if anyone could tell me how could i boot back to ubuntu after installing windows ?
[12:21] <Eric_Jardas> please help
[12:21] <ultramalf> ultramalf
[12:21] <Eric_Jardas> its urgent
[12:21] <Starnestommy> Eric_Jardas: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[12:22] <hischild> !grub | Eric_Jardas
[12:22] <ubotu> Eric_Jardas: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:22] <Eric_Jardas> ty guys !
[12:22] <kelvin911> hello?
[12:22] <|WolF|> hischild: hehe u did it man 10x A LOT !!!
[12:22] <kelvin911> can someone help me with the openoffice?
[12:22] <hischild> |WolF|, you're welcome :-)
[12:23] <kelvin911> how come no spell check?
[12:23] <Armada> kelvin911: don't ask if we'd help you, ofcourse we'd do, just state the problem
[12:24] <suxxor> how to burn iso file like image on cd
[12:24] <binarical-app> Eric_Jardas: windows uses the master boot record or mbr to boot into winodws, since ubuntu is a linux system it is unrecognised by windows, as such it need to use a different boot loader to be able to boot a non windows os. you can use grub, which is the back bone of ubuntu booting :P or you could look to find something that maybe you could install from windows.
[12:24] <kelvin911> my openoffice has no spell check although i enable the auto check
[12:24] <bullgard4> What reader is useful to show me the contents of the file /usr/share/command-not-found/programs.d/i386-main.db?
[12:24] <kelvin911> and when i click the spell button it just say complete?
[12:24] <binarical-app> Eric_Jardas: ill see if i can find something like that for you.....
[12:25] <kelvin911> please take a look http://img361.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotmg6.png
[12:26] <Hausberg> where can I change the default runlevel or disable graphical interface in boot
[12:26] <Mikkel`> Hi .. i has downloaded hldsupdatetool.bin and Now will i Make CS Server.. I can't not ./steam -command update -game cstrike -dir .? and after 2-4 mins will i get error? ... "Cannot open output file 'LinuxHldsUpdateTool_27.pkg'
[12:26] <kelvin911> maybe something not setup right in openoffice?
[12:27] <kelvin911> maybe i should choose english (US) instead of english (canada) ??
[12:28] <binarical-app> has anyone given refit a shot on a non mac computer ?
[12:28] <mrgozinyah> hurm
[12:28] <dejx> hello, does anybody here own polycom?
[12:29] <MindSpark> hi, what package do I need for the socket manual pages ?
[12:29] <binarical-app> Eric_Jardas: check this out : http://www.sorgonet.com/linux/grubrestore/
[12:30] <ensi> Armada: ok, i had everything set up just like it says in that guide, except for the DISABLED_MODULES parameter
[12:30] <ensi> Armada: and no, it still doesnt work but boots into failsafe
[12:30] <Dave_is_sexy> Hi all. Does anyone know what repository I need to aptitude install the cvs of gnuplot?
[12:31] <MindSpark> this didn't make any sense to me
[12:31] <binarical-app> Eric_Jardas : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindowss might help you a bit more then the last link i pasted
[12:33] <binarical-app> Dave_is_sexy:http://gnuplot.sourceforge.net/development/index.html
[12:34] <binarical-app> dave_is_sexy: i think you may need to build it from source
[12:35] <Dave_is_sexy> binarical-app: thanks, i'll see what i can do :)
[12:35] <schkulli> Hi ALL !!!
[12:37] <Swanonymous> bef@bef-desktop:~$ sudo deb http://repository.akirad.net akirad-gutsy main
[12:37] <Swanonymous> sudo: deb: command not found
[12:37] <Swanonymous> bef@bef-desktop:~$
[12:37] <Swanonymous> why?
[12:37] <FloodBot2> Swanonymous: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:37] <Swanonymous> bef@bef-desktop:~$ sudo deb http://repository.akirad.net akirad-gutsy main ---- sudo: deb: command not found ------> why??
[12:37] <ensi> Armada: where is the nvidia driver supposed to be found. i just updatedb and i can only find /lib/modules/2.6..-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko
[12:38] <ensi> Armada: and i dont think that is the correct ko
[12:38] <MindSpark> I need to get the manpages for certain libraries, what packages name pattern ?
[12:38] <MindSpark> Ubuntu by default doesn't come with man pages for connect or socket for example
[12:38] <Starnestommy> Swanonymous: you're doing it wrong.  You're supposed to add this to your /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://repository.akirad.net akirad-gutsy main
[12:39] <lordice> hy
[12:40] <geirha> MindSpark: manpages-dev has the manpages for libc ...
[12:41] <MindSpark> geirha, thanks !
[12:41] <binarical-app> MindSpark:documentation.renesas.com/eng/products/tool/rej03j0091_lccsocket.pdf
[12:42] <binarical-app> MindSpark: Documentation.renesas.com/eng/products/tool/rej03j0091_lccsocket.pdf
[12:42] <MindSpark> binarical-app, thanks, I wanted to have them in man format :)
[12:43] <wobbiebobbie> boo
[12:43] <WildChil17> hello tehre
[12:44] <mauryzmauryz> !list
[12:44] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:44] <ryanzec> I have .configure --with-cards=hdaintel, make and sudo make install version 2.0.16 but when i restarted my computer alsactl --version still says i am useing version 2.0.15.  is there anything else i need to do to tell my OS(Ubuntu) to use the newer version?
[12:45] <ensi> Armada: hey man?
[12:45] <WildChil17> I have a little problem playing DVD with totem. Somehow I can only choose english subtitles in the subtitle menu. That's one thing, and the other is there isn't any subtitles when I play movie. Funny thing is that when I play the same dvd in vlc it will play subtitles if I change subtitle track. How can I fix this? any ideas ?
[12:47] <bazhang> Swanonymous: what is sudo deb? what are you trying to do
[12:47] <proove> I need help with my touchpad. I cant get the "lockeddrags" to work.. anyone?
[12:48] <hischild> bazhang, he's trying to add a source to his sources.list and failed in doing so because he executed it.
[12:48] <ultramalf> ultramalf
[12:48] <bazhang> ah thanks hischild ;]
[12:49] <proove> Anyone? I set "lockedDrags=1" in xorg.conf but when i restar x lockeddrags is set to "0" again .. what is wrong?
[12:50] <chimp> Can anyone tell me how to set samba to allow anonymous access? When windows puters connect to my share, it always prompts for a password and i do not want this
[12:52] <binarical-app> chimp: you can set this option in the windows network settings on a computer you would like to let connect to yours, you should need to add your ip to the window network list
[12:52] <chimp> So it's not on my end?
[12:53] <ensi> hey, how can i make sure a particular kernel module is loaded on boot?
[12:53] <matthieu> hello guys
[12:53] <binarical-app> chimp: on your end you could configure your settings to force to connect to the network... but others still will have pasword issues
[12:54] <dani_> Hello ! I have a frustrating problem ! I have a string that contains a html page( i've remove the end of line ) ! i need to print the values in html between  <strong>XXX</strong> tags..ALL of them not just first
[12:54] <madduck> how can i disable that windows are attracted to screen borders?
[12:54] <madduck> i am running 8.04 beta
[12:54] <matthieu> do you know if it's possible to use a different gateway for each software?
[12:54] <chimp> binarical-app: When windows connect to other windows smb shares, it never prompts for a password, but does for the samba share, is there a reason for this?
[12:54] <dani_> i'm using shell scripting , i've tryed sed /awk ...any suggestions ?
[12:54] <Starnestommy> madduck: 8.04 s[upport is in #ubuntu+1 until release
[12:55] <Starnestommy> *support
[12:55] <ultramalf> ultramalf
[12:55] <chimp> I mean if it doesnt require a password, then why does just clicking next, not work
[12:55] <hischild> dani_, perhaps use grep?
[12:55] <Tatanka> ensi: put it in /etc/modules
[12:55] <dani_> all of the shell commands ...use lines not strings
[12:55] <madduck> Starnestommy: thanks
[12:55] <ensi> Tatanka: thanks
[12:55] <dani_> the grep will output the entire line .. not just the pattern i need
[12:56] <hischild> dani_, use a regular expression to cut the line to only the part you need.
[12:56] <dani_> native regexp of bash ? or what command ?
[12:56] <jjnull> hi
[12:56] <jjnull> someone can help me with wubi?
[12:56] <hischild> dani_, iirc grep has an option to only return the matched parts.
[12:57] <jjnull> I would like to install another distro instead of ubuntu
[12:57] <binarical-app> chimp: anything windows is mediocre at best, however if your ip is added to the network, then you wont have trouble connecting to your local network, you may have to edit a few things such as where you are added by default, but really, just do it on the windows side first
[12:57] <jjnull> I don't know how to use the image disk with a generic installer...
[12:58] <dani_> hischild,iirc ?
[12:58] <dani_> hischild,can u give me a small exemple ?
[12:58] <esteth> jjnull: as far as i know, wubi is a ubuntu installer. I don't think it works with another distro
[12:58] <hischild> dani_, if i remember correctly.
[12:58] <Armada> ensi: I was gone for a minute, didn't you get the PM?
[12:59] <chimp> binarical-app: Cheers for the help, just annoying really, theres about 10 or so computers that i want see allow to see the share without prompting for a password, pain to have to configure them all
[12:59] <jjnull> esteth: yes but wubi uses other software to work
[12:59] <hischild> dani_, man grep and take a look at the -o option
[12:59] <jjnull> it would me very easy to port
[12:59] <jjnull> be*
[12:59] <matthieu> do you know if it's possible to use a different gateway for each software?
[13:00] <binarical-app> chimp: it really only takes one computer to add you, preferably the network admin should add you. then you will have to edit a few things on your computer so that you join the correct "workgroup" or such things,
[13:01] <N3WFI3> sup
[13:01] <Starnestommy> matthieu: I think it depends on the software.  If each interface has a different IP and the program can bind to a specific address, I think it should be possible
[13:01] <N3WFI3> i have ubuntu installed :) man its sooo sweet
[13:01] <f0rmat> i was asking yesterday how to make it so other users can't just access /home and someone said don't you 8.04 use 7.10 so i am it is still allowing other less privliged users access to each others accounts and even mine i would have thought that security would automatically make it so /home was chmoded to the right permission value :S
[13:02] <f0rmat> *use
[13:02] <matthieu> Starnestommy, i've only one network interface with one IP. The two gateway are on the same subnet
[13:03] <esteth> f0rmat: your home folder is able to be viewed by others, but not modified, i think. You can use the chmod command to change this so that others can only list the files, and so on
[13:03] <ensi> Armada: no
[13:03] <Armada> ensi: I see freenode blocks PMs
[13:03] <Armada> sry
[13:03] <f0rmat> esteth, but i don't wan't them to even see each others direcotrys in /home even better not see /home at all
[13:04] <Twigathy> Any VMware-server wizards about? It seems to just crash for me... http://paste.lisp.org/display/58683
[13:04] <Armada> ensi: anyway, did it work?
[13:04] <astro76> f0rmat: simply sudo chmod go-rwx /home/user on the user directories you don't want others to access, that removes Read Write and Execute from Group and Others
[13:04] <ensi> Armada: yes, eventually. the problem appears to have been that nvidia.ko was NOT loaded for some reason. i just modprobed it myself and 3d and glx worked.
[13:04] <esteth> f0rmat: You might be able to do something with encryption there. and auto mount the encrypted files on login or something, but i have no experience with it
[13:04] <f0rmat> but can't it me made to /home so that all users exept root doesn't see anything
[13:05] <f0rmat> :S
[13:05] <f0rmat> i dunno
[13:05] <bullgard4> What file viewer is able to show the contents of a Berkeley database?
[13:05] <astro76> f0rmat: maybe but who cares if they can't go into any of those "folders"
[13:05] <f0rmat> i just don't wan't to have to go through all the user accouns making sure they are chmodded right
[13:05] <sdrowkcab> my router is set to assign my mac address to the IP: 192.168.0.2. But it sets it to 192.168.0.11 and does not even show up in the "attached devices". what is happening?
[13:05] <shukty> hi can i add a codec into vnc ?
[13:05] <astro76> f0rmat: sudo chmod go-rwx /home/* would protect ALL users folders in one command
[13:06] <f0rmat> aaah but if i added a new user would it be valid for that user
[13:06] <f0rmat> :)
[13:06] <astro76> f0rmat: there's a way to do that too
[13:06] <Armada> esni: that shouldn't that have been done by the driver installer?
[13:07] <ensi> Armada: shrug
[13:07] <f0rmat> astro76, thankyou that command did the trick
[13:07] <Armada> ensi: whatever works for you
[13:07] <f0rmat> now my test accound can't access my account
[13:08] <f0rmat> esteth, thankyou too
[13:08] <razor-x11> yo yo yo yo lol
[13:08] <astro76> f0rmat: I think if you run that command on /etc/skel/ it will affect newly created users home directories
[13:09] <Armada> ensi: you did execute this command before installing the driver right? "sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`"
[13:09] <f0rmat> thankyou
[13:09] <ensi> Armada: yeah, i had build-essentials from before though
[13:09] <Armada> ensi: k, strange
[13:09] <LupoBluAlfa> yoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[13:09] <ensi> Armada: and without the linux headers it cant build the driver
[13:10] <dani_> hischild,THANK U ! Grep rulz
[13:10] <LupoBluAlfa> buon giorno
[13:10] <ryanzec> on ubuntu how do i open up the window to configure the compiz options
[13:10] <hischild> dani_, you're welcome. Good luck
[13:10] <LupoBluAlfa> ma c dici
[13:10] <astro76> !it | LupoBluAlfa
[13:10] <ubotu> LupoBluAlfa: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[13:10] <LupoBluAlfa> sai parlare in inglese
[13:10] <ac3> Hi, i´m trying to boot my workstations from an nfs server, but i always get a kernel panic, just as described on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/181258
[13:10] <LupoBluAlfa> no
[13:11] <astro76> !ccsm | ryanzec
[13:11] <ubotu> ryanzec: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[13:11] <ac3> kernel version is 2.6.24-14-generic
[13:11] <Twigathy> ac3: ahha, I use root over NFS
[13:11] <LupoBluAlfa> blablabla
[13:11] <ultramalf> ultramalf
[13:11] <Twigathy> It's network manager getting in the way last time I checked
[13:11] <f0rmat> astro76, i can't add users anymore
[13:11] <f0rmat> :S
[13:12] <astro76> LupoBluAlfa: do you have an Ubuntu support question to ask... in English?
[13:12] <sayed> sayed
[13:12] <Dishtroyer> Good Morning
[13:12] <astro76> f0rmat: ahhh ;) then undo that... sudo chmod go+rx /etc/skel
[13:12] <Twigathy> ac3: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/OnNFSDriveWithLocalBoot <-- the stuff about network manager might help you there
[13:12] <sayed> good morrning
[13:12] <rhineheart_m> anybody here who knows how to hack the log-in page of the squirrelmail so that if it will be clicked it will go back to a specific link?
[13:12] <itai-michaelson> Dishtroyer, good evening...
[13:13] <Dishtroyer> Could someone help with with a driver problem?
[13:13] <sayed> not now
[13:13] <shukty> hi can i add a codec into vnc ?
[13:13] <itai-michaelson> Dishtroyer, what's the the problem?
[13:13] <Dishtroyer> Thank you Itai
[13:14] <sayed> i have aprobleme im sound
[13:14] <sayed> in
[13:14] <Dishtroyer> I have a belikin wireless desktop client card. Its a Broadcom bcm43XX chipset. the driver that comes with UBUNTU doesn't seem to work
[13:14] <f0rmat> astro76, still doesn't work
[13:14] <ac3> Twigathy: thx, but it does not solve the problem
[13:15] <Twigathy> hm, interesting
[13:15] <Dishtroyer> I just now installed UBUNTU and am learninf on the fly
[13:15] <Twigathy> ac3: that's the exact same message I got before fiddling with network mangler.... maybe something else is messing with your eth0?
[13:15] <programer> good morrning human
[13:16] <itai-michaelson> Dishtroyer, wireless can be a pain
[13:16] <astro76> f0rmat: still can't create users?
[13:16] <f0rmat> no
[13:16] <f0rmat> :S
[13:16] <Dishtroyer> No doubt Itai
[13:16] <ac3> Twigathy: i´l retry from scratch, maybe i did something wrong
[13:16] <itai-michaelson> Dishtroyer, first - did you read this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[13:16] <astro76> f0rmat: paste the output of ls -ld /etc/skel
[13:16] <ensi> Tatanka: didnt work btw.
[13:16] <ensi> Tatanka: the module was not loaded at boot
[13:16] <Dishtroyer> No Itai, but I will brb
[13:17] <f0rmat> astro76, drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-10-16 00:21 /etc/skel
[13:17] <astro76> f0rmat: hmm that's fine, did you make other changes?
[13:17] <itai-michaelson> Dishtroyer, which version of Ubuntu did you intsall?
[13:18] <f0rmat> no i didn't
[13:19] <SpookyET> Can anyone figure out the direct link to http://acpi.sourceforge.net/dsdt/view.php?id=648
[13:19] <f0rmat> astro76, i had to remove the group made by the user and re add the user
[13:20] <SpookyET> Firefox give me a corrupt gz, wget/curl 404 http://acpi.sourceforge.net/dsdt/view.php?id=648
[13:20] <usamahashimi> Hello Everyone!
[13:20] <xfa> i can't configure the volume of headphones and speakers(notebook) seperatly, someboy an idea?
[13:21] <ac3> Twigathy: no luck, i created a new install on my nfs server with debootstrap, and still the same error message. Networkmanager is not even installed
[13:21] <Twigathy> weird
[13:21] <usamahashimi> is it possible to install at the end of second hard drive?
[13:21] <Twigathy> It's definiately something which is messing with your ethernet though - that's the message I got when eth0 was brought down and back up again, of course losing connection with the NFS server ;)
[13:21] <ac3> i do have BOOT=auto in /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf
[13:22] <ac3> could that be the problem
[13:22] <ac3> should i fix this to nfs?
[13:22] <Twigathy> you ought to set that to BOOT=nfs, yeah
[13:22] <conartist> and i m in again
[13:22] <lordleemo> SpookyET: http://acpi.sourceforge.net/dsdt/dl.php?id=648
[13:22] <conartist> and the same problem
[13:23] <conartist> i just installed ubuntu again
[13:23] <SpookyET> lordleemo: yeah
[13:23] <conartist> :)
[13:23] <SpookyET> lordleemo: http://acpi.sourceforge.net/dsdt/view.php?id=648
[13:23] <conartist> because i m a noob
[13:23] <conartist> so...
[13:23] <conartist> here it goes again
[13:23] <lordleemo> SpookyET: http://acpi.sourceforge.net/dsdt/dl.php?id=648   thats direct m8
[13:23] <conartist> can anyone..and i mean anyone, can help me with my sound in ubuntu???
[13:23] <SpookyET> lordleemo: it's not
[13:24] <chimp> Is there a command that will make ubuntu open a file with the associated program, from the command line?
[13:24] <conartist> i doesnt do anything, my alsa mixer it s working...
[13:24] <conartist> but my sound, doest not
[13:24] <esteth> chimp: most of the time typing the name of the program followed by the path to the file works
[13:24] <binarical-app> chimp: its called a pipe ,
[13:24] <conartist> how can i fix this problem?
[13:24] <conartist> i read all the links to this problem
[13:25] <conartist> nothing solvede the problem...
[13:25] <conartist> solves*
[13:25] <itai-michaelson> conartist, what sound card?
[13:25] <shukty> hi can i add a codec into vnc ?
[13:25] <s0enke_> hi dudes. I have some strange RAID setup with 2 usb disks (in one case). I'm using software-raid1 for them. if the harddisk is turned at kernel-boot the auto-detect works fine. but if I turn the hdd on while linux is running it fails to autodetect the array because the detection starts when the first hdd is being recognized. do you know if there is some delay that can be used for kernel autodetection? :-)
[13:25] <void^> chimp: gnome-open
[13:25] <conartist> card: hda intel, chip realtek alc885
[13:25] <Tatanka> ensi: does ubuntu try to load the module?
[13:26] <ensi> Tatanka: how can i find out?
[13:26] <conartist> i just ran alsamixer in the terminal
[13:26] <chimp> void^: cheers that works brilliant
[13:26] <ultramalf> chimp: $clientname; works, now I just need last two parts of it
[13:26] <f0rmat> astro76, when i added the user i could still cd from my account to his home
[13:26] <f0rmat> i had to rerun the chmod
[13:27] <Tatanka> sytem log or /var/log/syslog
[13:27] <itai-michaelson> shukty which codec?
[13:27] <conartist> plss someone?
[13:27] <usamahashimi> can anyone tell me that is it possible to install at the end of 2nd hard drve?
[13:28] <conartist> or maybe tell me where to go and who to speak with to solve this problem with my sound!
[13:28] <shukty> to itai-michaelson ffmpeg or something better than owncodec
[13:28] <leeuw> just testing
[13:28] <itai-michaelson> conartist, did you check the forum?
[13:28] <conartist> i checked the forum man....but no response...
[13:29] <conartist> i screwed upo my system because of the forum
[13:29] <conartist> i need an concrete answer
[13:29] <itai-michaelson> shukty,  which file are you trying to play? usually you dont need to add a codec to vlc, id adds it automatically when you install the codec
[13:29] <conartist> so pls.....anyone!!!
[13:29] <ac3> Twigathy: same error:(
[13:29] <Ace2016> oh no the forums are offline
[13:29] <conartist> do you know itai?
[13:29] <conartist> how to fix it
[13:29] <Ace2016> any info on when it'll be back?
[13:29] <conartist> ..
[13:29] <Ace2016> The forums are currently offline while we do maintenance. We will return shortly. :'(
[13:30] <itai-michaelson> conartist, i don't have your sound card , sorry can't help you at the moment
[13:30] <binarical-app> conartist /syslog refers to your system log, ther may be some more info in that file
[13:31] <conartist> i m a noob...in ubuntu...so take my easy
[13:31] <conartist> so i run /syslog in the terminal?
[13:32] <Ace2016> conartist: what are you trying to do?
[13:32] <N3WFI3> where do i find amsn i thought it was included?
[13:32] <conartist> i wnat to get my sound working,
[13:32] <Ace2016> use pidgin
[13:32] <conartist> want*
[13:32] <N3WFI3> pidgin better?
[13:32] <Dishtroyer> Thank you Itai... yes, it looks like this problem will take me some time to work out.
[13:32] <Ace2016> yup, pidgin is better
[13:33] <N3WFI3> ok cool
[13:33] <binarical-app> conartist: nano /var/log/syslog
[13:33] <N3WFI3> this os rox man
[13:33] <N3WFI3> everything you need is there at install
[13:33] <conartist> my card is hda intel and the chip is realtek alc885
[13:33] <bullgard4> What file viewer is able to show the contents of a Berkeley database?
[13:33] <binarical-app> thats real nice, but firt i need to know what caused your crash
[13:33] <itai-michaelson> Dishtroyer, did you try to download the firmware , i belive that this is the best method the link suggests
[13:34] <N3WFI3> goto make a system restart will be back hAHA
[13:34] <conartist> i ran syslog
[13:34] <conartist> and now what?
[13:34] <conartist> where should i look?
[13:34] <binarical-app> conartist: nano /var/log/syslog
[13:34] <astro76> f0rmat: in /etc/profile, change umask 022 to umask 077, that will make all created files and dirs accessbile only by owner
[13:34] <conartist> yes man
[13:34] <conartist> i did that
[13:34] <conartist> now what?
[13:34] <chimp_> Ok, odd question but is it possible through an ssh session to interact with a running program, for example if one computer is running irssi, is there anyway to view that irssi session
[13:34] <binarical-app> and is there something in that file?
[13:34] <conartist> (i m using for the first time in my life ubuntu)
[13:34] <f0rmat> astro76, "in /etc/profile" how do i get in is there a gui
[13:34] <astro76> !screen | chimp_
[13:35] <ubotu> chimp_: screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[13:35] <chimp_> Ahh, ta astro76
[13:35] <binarical-app> okay thats really good, keep that up, dont let this little bug get you down
[13:35] <astro76> f0rmat: any text editor... e.g. gksudo gedit
[13:35] <conartist> pls help me....:(
[13:35] <f0rmat> aah
[13:35] <f0rmat> ok
[13:35] <f0rmat> thanks
[13:36] <binarical-app> conartist: did you enter that comand in the terminal ? if you did can you tell me what you saw, and if there was any output
[13:36] <conartist> if my chip is realtek alc885 there is no way in the world that it will work on ubuntu?
[13:36] <itai-michaelson> conartist, can i make a suggestion? it is possible that your problem will not be solved instantly today. i think that of you post on the forum (which is sadly offline momentarily) you have a better chance of getting a good solution.
[13:36] <f0rmat> thankyou
[13:36] <f0rmat> :)
[13:36] <f0rmat> astro76
[13:36] <binarical-app> conartist: we can gat anything to work in ubuntu
[13:36] <conartist> and if we can binarical......why not my soundcard
[13:37] <conartist> :)
[13:37] <itai-michaelson> conartist,  there are people who got that chip working in the forum, i would google it for you except the forum is offline. don't worry - the problem will be solved
[13:37] <conartist> how long can i wait m8?
[13:37] <conartist> should*
[13:37] <binarical-app> conartist: is this the first time your sound card isnt working? has it had this problem before in ubuntu . have you used it and gotten it to produce sound?
[13:37] <conartist> no man
[13:37] <conartist> i use dual boot
[13:37] <ultramalf> conartist: what you mean by nigger lower ? mogger fans fanatics nigger maniacs just someone who dont think niggers are generally manic ? a man in lowe with a nigger ?
[13:37] <conartist> xp and ubuntu
[13:38] <astro76> !ops | ultramalf
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[13:38] <ultramalf> ubotu: arg
[13:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about arg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:38] <conartist> and in xp....it works
[13:38] <conartist> my sound works on windows
[13:38] <conartist> but in ubuntu
[13:38] <conartist> it doesnt
[13:38] <conartist> so my windows detects my soundcard.....
[13:38] <binarical-app> yeah thats because windows is a sluttl os as will do anything for you if you tweak it enough
[13:39] <truebosko> Hi there .. this is more of a precautionary question. I have Vista and am trying to install Ubuntu on another partition. I noticed in my partitions I have a SWAP and Ext3 partitons already (I used to have Debian) .. These were frmo Debian and are in no way connected to Vista right? Stupid question, but I need to be 100% sure
[13:39] <astro76> truebosko: correct
[13:39] <truebosko> Ok great
[13:39] <sam_> is there a #beta channel?
[13:39] <conartist> does anyone have a clue....so i m using a dual boot...ubuntu and windows xp...my windows xp detects my soundcard...but ubuntu doesnt
[13:40] <xs142> Is there any way to switch between for example ubuntu and gentoo without reinstalling and/or formating?
[13:40] <itai-michaelson> truebosko, , vista is NTFS
[13:40] <astro76> sam_: #ubuntu+1
[13:40] <conartist> help !
[13:40] <coincoin169> hello
[13:40] <truebosko> itai-michaelson - Yup I know, but needed to quadruple check ;)
[13:40] <truebosko> Dont want my Vista install borking juuuust yet
[13:40] <xs142> truebosko, no they're not related
[13:40] <coincoin169> anyone knows how to record anything that go through my soundcard ???
[13:41] <itai-michaelson> truebosko, no problem, make sure to backup before installing....
[13:41] <xs142> I did the same last week :)
[13:41] <ricanelite> when i click on enable for 3D on the restricted devices for my nvidia grapics card the resoultion and everything screws up
[13:41] <root> feanyuhello
[13:41] <ricanelite> is there a way I could start from scratch
[13:41] <conartist> plsssss help me
[13:41] <ricanelite> without having to reinstall Ubuntu?
[13:41] <binarical-app> conartist: you may have to get ndiswrapper and use it to install the windows driver for you
[13:41] <esteth> ricanelite: no
[13:41] <truebosko> So basically when I am installing Ubuntu I can set its swap to point to the currently existing Swap partiont I have yes?
[13:41] <root> feanyu
[13:41] <conartist> can i talk to you on private m8?
[13:41] <ricanelite> so i will have to do a install of the hole OS?
[13:41] <chimp_> wow this screen program is ace
[13:42] <astro76> !xconfig | ricanelite
[13:42] <ubotu> ricanelite: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg » - To configure only the driver and resolution, type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh » - See also !FixRes
[13:42] <astro76> !console | ricanelite
[13:42] <ubotu> ricanelite: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[13:42] <itai-michaelson> truebosko, you have debian installed already and want to add ubuntu? if so then yes
[13:42] <binarical-app> conartist : you can pm anyone in this room
[13:42] <astro76> ricanelite: hmm... when it says open a console, type ctrl+alt+f2
[13:42] <truebosko> itai-michaelson - I dont have Debian anymore, but it looks like the swap partition was left there when I removedi t
[13:42] <truebosko> So I guess I can just take it over :)
[13:43] <snowolf> sure
[13:43] <conartist> how ca i do that
[13:43] <itai-michaelson> truebosko, you can , i have shared a swap between debian and ubuntu before
[13:43] <conartist> can*
[13:43] <astro76> !pm | conartist binarical-app
[13:43] <ubotu> conartist binarical-app: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[13:43] <coincoin169> anyone knows how to record anything that go through my soundcard ???
[13:43] <Astralian> Helli everybody!
[13:43] <snowolf> hi Astralian
[13:43] <Astralian> I need some help installing Ubuntu 7.10 to Acer Laptop Please!!!
[13:43] <root> 北京语言大学。 this is a test.
[13:44] <astro76> coincoin169: maybe Audacity has an option for that?
[13:44] <binarical-app> i agree with ubotu and astro76 : ask your questions where we all can see them
[13:44] <conartist> !pm | conartist binarical-app
[13:44] <ubotu> conartist binarical-app: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[13:44] <xs142> Is there any way to switch between for example ubuntu and gentoo without reinstalling and/or formating?
[13:44] <conartist> i cant send a pm
[13:44] <conartist> :(
[13:44] <ricanelite> i have a 512mb graphics card
[13:44] <astro76> xs142: sure you can dual/multi-boot with multiple linux installs
[13:44] <conartist> what should i write?
[13:44] <ricanelite> what do i enter for the amount of memory (kb) to be used by the video card?
[13:44] <itai-michaelson> conartist - there is a solution to your problem here: http://209.85.175.104/search?q=cache:lwGuUGjlu_MJ:ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-497016.html+realtek+alc885+ubuntu&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2
[13:45] <conartist> ok itai.....
[13:45] <xs142> astro76 rather want to exchange it all together
[13:45] <conartist> brb after i read it
[13:45] <coincoin169> i've tried but it didn't work
[13:45] <binarical-app> conartist: why dont you start by telling us what you did to stop getting sound out of your sound card. also please calm down.
[13:45] <ricanelite> i have a 512mb graphics card
[13:45] <Astralian> Please! I try install but after everything disappears I can see bacl screen and lights buttons swtich off with dvdrom. I've got SCSI hard drive
[13:45] <ricanelite> what do i type in for memory (kb)?
[13:45] <astro76> xs142: then you need to re-install... one distros setup/packagin system/ install system has little to nothing to do with another
[13:46] <Astralian> itai-michaelson: hello! please help me to install ubuntu
[13:46] <itai-michaelson> conartist -look at bodhi.zazen's post that begins with "There you go. "
[13:46] <root> HELLO WORLD!(北京北语)
[13:46] <itai-michaelson> Astralian, sure whats the world
[13:46] <odder> !hi | root
[13:46] <ubotu> root: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[13:46] <astro76> root: feel free to join #ubuntu-offtopic for testing stuff ;)
[13:46] <itai-michaelson> root 你好
[13:46] <Astralian> itai-michaelson:  I try install but after everything disappears I can see bacl screen and lights buttons swtich off with dvdrom. I've got SCSI hard drive
[13:47] <conartist> first of all, i' using a dual boot, windows xp and ubuntu(ubuntu for the first time in my life), after that, in windows xp, my sound works great, but in ubuntu, nothing...i dont hear anything..that s my problem
[13:47] <itai-michaelson> conartist, did you read the link i sent you?
[13:47] <ac3> Twigathy: which howto dit you follow?
[13:47] <conartist> i doesnt work
[13:47] <conartist> :(
[13:47] <conartist> it*
[13:47] <conartist> says connecting since you sent it
[13:47] <itai-michaelson> conartist, which part?
[13:48] <conartist> oh look
[13:48] <itai-michaelson> Astralian, did you install ubuntu? when do you get the black screen? did you check the CD media for errors?
[13:48] <conartist> now it works
[13:48] <conartist> where showuld i look now
[13:48] <conartist> ???
[13:49] <itai-michaelson> in BodhisZazen's post the begins with "There you go. "
[13:49] <conartist> ok itai....i m in the link...where should i look?
[13:49] <root> going to have a bath , see you guys later~
[13:50] <Astralian> itai-michaelson: yes I checheked. everything is ok. I wrote .iso to dvd-rw. after i press install it shows me logo then text with ok ok ok ok and after black screen and hard drive stops and dvd too.
[13:50] <Astralian> itai-michaelson: I have SCSI hard drive
[13:50] <Twigathy> ac3: I wrote the NFS with local boot howto, and that worked okay for me
[13:50] <ac3> :)
[13:50] <itai-michaelson> conartist, look for BoddhiZazen's post that begins with "There you go. "
[13:51] <bob87> does anybody know a tool to repair a VirtualBox .VDI NTFS file which is mounted under ubuntu ?
[13:51] <ac3> could the problem be pxe related?
[13:51] <ac3> i´m booting using pxe
[13:51] <itai-michaelson> Astralian, what VGA card?
[13:51] <conartist> ok found it
[13:52] <Astralian> itai-michaelson:  NVIDIA GeForce Go 7300
[13:52] <conartist> where do i download that?
[13:52] <archman> anyone knows of any low-latency drivers ?
[13:52] <Astralian> itai-michaelson: Linux Mandriva setups with no problem
[13:52] <astro76> archman: for what?
[13:53] <archman> astro76: audio; i need it for soundrecording
[13:53] <astro76> archman: UbuntuStudio uses the low-latency kernel
[13:54] <itai-michaelson> Astralian, mmm...i don't think SCSI should be a problem, the only thing i can suggest is running the alternae install , it usually solves a lot of problems
[13:54] <archman> astro76: do you maybe got any clues why my sound 'cracks' when i record in ubuntu? When i record in xp (via VM) it doesn't crack...
[13:54] <Astralian> itai-michaelson: how can I run it?
[13:54] <conartist> where do i download the others 4.06a? from the link m8?
[13:55] <itai-michaelson> Astralian, sorry, u need to download it, from the ubuntu website
[13:55] <Astralian> itai-michaelson: ah when I try to install as OEM it stops after CPU or smth PANIC
[13:55] <Astralian> cannot mount root
[13:55] <itai-michaelson> conartist, yes, from the realteck website
[13:55] <archman> astro76: is there ubuntu studio live? i don't want to install it...
[13:55] <astro76> archman: no experience with it.... you might want to check out #ubuntustudio
[13:55] <astro76> archman: I don't believe so
[13:55] <itai-michaelson> Astralian, do you mean Kernel Panic?
[13:56] <Astralian> itai-michaelson: yes maybe
[13:56] <archman> astro76: ohh, damn...tnx anyway
[13:56] <itai-michaelson> Astralian, what computer are you installin on?
[13:56] <archman> astro76: so no low latency drivers for ubuntu?
[13:56] <conartist> is this where i showld download http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=23&PFid=23&Level=4&Conn=3&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false#AC
[13:56] <Astralian> itai-michaelson: I use Acer 9300 laptop AMD Turion 64X2 64 bit
[13:56] <conartist> ?
[13:57] <itai-michaelson> conartist, yes,
[13:57] <ompaul> archman, The RT kernel is the Ubuntu kernel with a realtime preemption patch applied. It is included in Ubuntu Studio by default. For more information please see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealTime/Gutsy
[13:57] <itai-michaelson> Astralian, are you using a 64bit Ubuntu version?
[13:57] <Astralian> yes
[13:57] <conartist> the linux driver (2.4 or 2.6)?? with the rhel4 update 4 or without?
[13:58] <Astralian> itai-michaelson: when tryed to download I pressed the button download 64 bit AMD or Intel
[13:58] <conartist> tell me what to download more exactly...i told you i wass a noob
[13:58] <conartist> i am in fact
[13:58] <itai-michaelson> conartist, so am i
[13:58] <conartist> so what do i download m8? be more explicit?
[13:59] <itai-michaelson> conartist, give me some time - i'm googling for you
[13:59] <conartist> ok m8
[13:59] <conartist> i ll be here
[13:59] <conartist> and wainting..thank you for the support
[14:00] <ubuntu_> hey all
[14:00] <ubuntu_> i have a problem, upgrading to hardy heron
[14:00] <Astralian> B /msg Please ppl I can't install the latest Ubuntu 7.10 on ACER 9300 Laptop. B
[14:00] <astro76> ubuntu_: #ubuntu+1
[14:00] <ubuntu_> some confusion with sda/hda, now grub won't load :(
[14:00] <snowolf> !hardy | ubuntu_
[14:00] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[14:00] <ubuntu_> okay thanks
[14:00] <Astralian> B /msg test B
[14:01] <Frogger626> Does anyone know a general tech-support channel?
[14:01] <itai-michaelson> Astralian, at the moment i would suggest downloading and trying the alternate version
[14:01] <astro76> Frogger626: there's #linux
[14:01] <Astralian> itai-michaelson: what is alternate version?
[14:01] <Frogger626> astro76: For installing a new HD?
[14:01] <astro76> Frogger626: #hardware
[14:02] <Frogger626> Thnx
[14:02] <itai-michaelson> Astralian, its not graphic
[14:02] <ceil420> .
[14:02] <boris> someone tell me whats going on with ubuntu forums
[14:02] <ompaul> Frogger626, hardware ##hardware
[14:02] <Kurko> alternate is text based installer
[14:02] <fabiim> wich package contains the su program?
[14:02] <astro76> boris: I hear they are down
[14:02] <boris> ah
[14:03] <boris> now i finally got connection and know why they're down
[14:03] <boris> The forums are currently offline while we do maintenance. We will return shortly.
[14:03] <Astralian> itai-michaelson: so what exactly should I do?
[14:03] <astro76> fabiim: dpkg -S `which su`
[14:03] <itai-michaelson> Astralian, go here http://www.ubuntu.com/GetUbuntu/download
[14:03] <Astralian> itai-michaelson: what to download?
[14:03] <Astralian> 64 bit AMD?
[14:03] <itai-michaelson> Astralian, and check the "Check here if you need the alternate desktop CD. This CD does not include the Live CD, instead it uses a text-based installer."  on th ebottom
[14:03] <CaptainMorgan> how do I update my flash player ?
[14:04] <esteth> what is the add/remove programs thing called from the command line?
[14:04] <itai-michaelson> Astralian, try the 32 bot forst
[14:04] <itai-michaelson> 32 bit
[14:04] <CaptainMorgan> I've the version, but the script couldn't find the proper path for the installation folder
[14:04] <soundray> fabiim: it's part of the login package. (Please don't use su to get root access in Ubuntu)
[14:04] <fabiim> astro76,  tks
[14:04] <Astralian> itai-michaelson: what is the difference between alternate and normal amd 64?
[14:04] <fabiim> soundray, tks
[14:04] <Astralian> just installer or smth else?
[14:04] <fabiim> soundray, why?
[14:05] <Astralian> itai-michaelson: but Mandriva 2008 installs good.
[14:05] <soundray> fabiim: Ubuntu is designed to be administered with sudo
[14:05] <itai-michaelson> Astralian, no, the difference is between alternate and graphic
[14:05] <soundray> !sudo | fabiim
[14:05] <ubotu> fabiim: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[14:05] <Slade^^> guys, has it firewall for linux???
[14:05] <lion> alternate edition seems to provide more choies during installation.
[14:05] <Astralian> itai-michaelson: so will i see inside OS pictures or text only?
[14:05] <soundray> !firestarter | Slade^^
[14:05] <ubotu> Slade^^: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[14:06] <lion> e.g. oem mode
[14:06] <itai-michaelson> Astralian, unfortuanetly the Ubuntu forums are down, so i cannot check for problems with your laptop. sometimes one distro loads better than the other
[14:06] <fabiim> ok
[14:06] <Iz> how can i fix my webcam and use it throw amsn?
[14:06] <hyper_ch> what's wrong with ubuntuforums?
[14:06] <Slade^^> tanks .. :
[14:06] <Slade^^> :)
[14:06] <LaRoza> They are updating the database and forum
[14:06] <itai-michaelson> Astralian, its only text -
[14:06] <hyper_ch> huhu LaRoza :)
[14:06] <Frogger626> Uh, ##hardware is all in french
[14:06] <Astralian> ubotu: lion: I tried OEM
[14:06] <hyper_ch> LaRoza: I was wondering because I only get a time-out
[14:07] <lion> yep
[14:07] <fabiim> where can i see the source files of the program of the packages?
[14:07] <astro76> Frogger626: it's usually English ;)
[14:07] <LaRoza> You would have to install the source packages
[14:07] <hyper_ch> fabiim: apt-get source PACKAGE
[14:07] <Frogger626> astro76: I have babelfish pulled up, so I think I'm good, but an english channel would be preferable
[14:07] <Astralian> itai-michaelson: so inside OS after installation wil it be the same?
[14:07] <soundray> Frogger626: the topic is English, so it'll be all right to ask a question in English
[14:07] <itai-michaelson> Astralian, 100% the same
[14:07] <LaRoza> Yes, the alt disk installs the same syste
[14:07] <LaRoza> m
[14:08] <LjL> fabiim: "apt-get source packagename"
[14:08] <Tatanka> Iz: amsn can't do that, I think kopete can
[14:08] <Astralian> itai-michaelson: tank you so much
[14:08] <LaRoza> Kopete can use wecams
[14:08] <astro76> Frogger626: I've never seen anything *but* English in there
[14:08] <xfa> is it possible to configure headphones ouput und speakers seperatly?
[14:08] <fabiim> ok , tks everyone , you guys are really helpful
[14:08] <Frogger626> astro76: Come take a look for yourself?
[14:08] <astro76> Frogger626: I see, I guess you can speak whatever language you want... just ask in English ;)
[14:09] <itai-michaelson> Astralian, no problem, in general the Ubuntu forums are a better place to get information , but they are down, if the alternate doesn't work - you can try posting there
[14:09] <astro76> Frogger626: note also the /topic is English
[14:09] <Astralian> lion: hi! So what did u say about command?
[14:09] <Frogger626> OK then
[14:09] <LaRoza> Can't everyone just stay connected?
[14:09] <itai-michaelson> conartist, im still waiting for the realtek webpage to come up
[14:10] <RaceCondition> is it possible to "convert" a running JeOS server to a regular Ubuntu Server?
[14:10] <sexypandemic> hi guys, while I'm not logged on to my nix box, I have to resort to using mirc as a irc chat client. Can any of you suggest any free or opensource alternatives to mirc that aren't resource hogs?
[14:10] <michael__> what reltek driver are you having probs with ??
[14:11] <donciccio> How do I recover my execution permissions in my /home?
[14:11] <LaRoza> What is mirc?
[14:11] <Exteris> sexypandemic, xchat +?
[14:11] <LaRoza> If it is for irc, I use irssi
[14:11] <LjL> LaRoza: an IRC client for Windows
[14:11] <LollinopiL> how can i uninstall a WINE program ?
[14:11] <astro76> sexypandemic: xchat
[14:11] <sexypandemic> oh, i thought xchat for windows wasn't free?
[14:11] <donciccio> How do I recover my execution permissions in my /home?
[14:11] <LjL> LollinopiL: type « uninstaller » in a shell
[14:11] <LaRoza> LollinopiL: Run the uninstaller?
[14:11] <michael__> xchat
[14:11] <LjL> donciccio: how did you lose them?
[14:12] <LollinopiL> LjL awesome!
[14:12] <itai-michaelson> michael__, conartist is having problems with ALC885 from realtec
[14:12] <donciccio> i set the command chmod 644 /home/...
[14:12] <LjL> sexypandemic, X-Chat is open-source, so someone can always compile it and give a free binary.
[14:12] <astro76> sexypandemic: just the build wasn't free, now there is a free built one http://www.silverex.org/news/
[14:13] <LaRoza> irssi for Windows: http://irssi.org/
[14:13] <LjL> donciccio: /home, or /home/youruser?
[14:13] <donciccio> Yes /home/myuser
[14:14] <LjL> donciccio: chmod u+rwx /home/youruser then
[14:14] <michael__> conartist: http://www.driversdown.com/drivers/Realtek-ALC-ALC880-ALC260-ALC861-HD-Audio-CODECs-Driver-R1.0-Linux_68124.shtml
[14:14] <donciccio> but I can not execute the console because I do not have permissions
[14:14] <Astralian> itai-michaelson: what if I first install Mandriva 2008 and after from Mandriva start Ubuntu will oit help?
[14:14] <LaRoza> donciccio: Use the recovery console
[14:14] <donciccio> How
[14:14] <LjL> donciccio: can't you go to a text mode terminal (ctrl+alt+f2)?
[14:14] <donciccio> ?
[14:14] <chsmrs> hi folks. i just set up my new HP 8510p with ubuntu. has anybody expirience using the fingerprint reader for login?
[14:14] <itai-michaelson> Astralian, don't think so
[14:15] <LjL> donciccio: (ctrl+alt+f7 to go back to the desktop)
[14:15] <LaRoza> donciccio: If you get a blank screen, and no terminal, press Ctrl + Alt + F7 to get back
[14:15] <LaRoza> Then reboot into the recover console
[14:16] <conartist> ok i m back ......
[14:17] <Durman4eg> re
[14:17] <sexypandemic> LaRoza: omg, that's just pure sex
[14:17] <sexypandemic> irssi for windows for usbkey
[14:17] <unocrash> ///////////////
[14:17] <LaRoza> sexypandemic: What?
[14:17] <conartist> michael....do i download that ?
[14:17] <Zeit|awy> try to install 8.04b on a HP Xeon workstation.. installer drops into busybox right after chosing to install.. any hints?
[14:17] <conartist> from the link you just gave me?
[14:18] <unocrash> hey
[14:18] <Durman4eg> hi comrads
[14:18] <Durman4eg> )))
[14:18] <conartist> so do i???
[14:18] <Durman4eg> Hi from Ru
[14:18] <unocrash> Can i set up evolution with http email?
[14:19] <conartist> over there it says for alc880, i have alc885
[14:19] <conartist> does it work?
[14:19] <unocrash> :)
[14:19] <conartist> michael???
[14:20] <michael__> im here
[14:20] <unocrash> hehe
[14:20] <conartist> mmok....
[14:20] <conartist> ok..
[14:20] <chsmrs> has anybody an idea howto install the software for the fingerprint reader on a HP ntebook?
[14:20] <conartist> you gave me a link...
[14:20] <conartist> to download the driver for alc
[14:20] <conartist> soundcard
[14:20] <michael__> conartist: if there is one thing i learned about linux - it doesnt hurt to try it
[14:20] <unocrash> chamrs: I dont think ubuntu supports that.
[14:20] <LaRoza> chsmrs: SOme are
[14:20] <LaRoza> What is your fingerprinter reader model?
[14:20] <conartist> can you help me?
[14:21] <chsmrs> hang on
[14:21] <michael__> conartist: well try downloading it and see if it works and if it doesnt well go from there
[14:21] <conartist> ok man
[14:21] <conartist> brb after i do this step
[14:21] <donciccio_> thank you
[14:21] <michael__> conartist: ill brb to
[14:22] <donciccio_> I did chmod 744 /home/myuser
[14:22] <unocrash> I want to change my sound scheme, but when I try to change it to the ubuntustudio sounds, it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop.
[14:22] <water> qualcuno conosce il modo per risolvere il problema delle TkC di amsn???
[14:22] <donciccio_> is this OK?
[14:22] <LaRoza> Does it say what packages it wants to remove?
[14:22] <LaRoza> Just 'ubuntu-desktop' doesn't mean anything
[14:22] <sebrock> if a package shows as 'pn' with dpkg, how do I remove it from the DB?
[14:23] <unocrash> I want to change my sound scheme, but when I try to change it to the ubuntustudio sounds, it wants to remove the ubuntu-desktop package. What should I do?
[14:23] <michael__> laroza: ubuntu desktop package may be needed for further updates in the future just remember that ..
[14:23] <LaRoza> Then it will be reinstalled.
[14:23] <conartist> how do i run my downloaded file after i downloaded it?
[14:23] <conartist> it s a zip file
[14:23] <michael__> unocrash: it should be ok to remve it
[14:23] <Lucias_O`Neil> I'm trying to install beryl by using the following command: gksudo apt-get install beryl emerald-themes beryl-manager, but it says that the beryl package is not found. What gives?
[14:23] <conartist> (i m new to linux)
[14:23] <unocrash> It said not to
[14:23] <LaRoza> What version of Linux Lucias_O`Neil ?
[14:23] <Lucias_O`Neil> Ubuntu 7.10
[14:23] <chsmrs> LaRoza, the exact model is not specified in my docs
[14:23] <michael__> conartist you have to open / extrac
[14:23] <LaRoza> Lucias_O`Neil: Use Compiz
[14:24] <chsmrs> i'm using a HP Compaq 8510p
[14:24] <ompaul> !beryl | Lucias_O`Neil
[14:24] <ubotu> Lucias_O`Neil: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[14:24] <unocrash> !beryl
[14:24] <conartist> how can i talk to you in private michael?
[14:24] <ompaul> !PM
[14:24] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[14:24] <LaRoza> chsmrs: http://www.linlap.com/wiki/HP-Compaq+8710P
[14:24] <unocrash> so its ok to remove ubuntu-desktop (the package?
[14:24] <soundray> chsmrs: apparently, it will work -- see http://www.vogelweith.com/debian_laptop/01_hpcompaq8510p.php (sorry French, but look at section 5)
[14:24] <LjL> unocrash: generally, yes
[14:24] <unocrash> ok
[14:24] <ensi> are thumb mouse buttons supposed to work, or do i still have to hack with imwheel?
[14:24] <conartist> !pm michael what shoul i do?
[14:24] <Lucias_O`Neil> LaRoza, I have compiz already...
[14:25] <unocrash> I dont want to reinstall though.
[14:25] <LjL> unocrash: although you may end up with packages that APT claims are "unused and can be removed" (because it's ubuntu-desktop that keeps those together)
[14:25] <unocrash> ok
[14:25] <LaRoza> Lucias_O`Neil: Install the compiz plugins and settings manager
[14:25] <unocrash> brb
[14:25] <unocrash> \\away
[14:25] <chsmrs> i speak french, so no problem. i'll take a look at it, thanks a lot guys
[14:25] <Zeit|awy> try to install 8.04b on a HP Xeon workstation.. installer drops into busybox right after chosing to install.. any hints? casper.log say unable to find medium - it boots off an internal IDE-DVD-ROM
[14:25] <itai-michaelson> conartist, did you unzip it?
[14:25] <conartist> i unzipped it man......on to my desktop
[14:26] <conartist> now what?
[14:26] <soundray> Zeit|awy: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[14:26] <LaRoza> Is there a read me?
[14:26] <itai-michaelson> conartist,  whats' inside? is there a README file?
[14:26] <conartist> yes
[14:26] <soundray> !mouse | ensi
[14:26] <ubotu> ensi: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[14:26] <conartist> now what?
[14:26] <LaRoza> conartist: Read it
[14:27] <conartist> now what?
[14:27] <LaRoza> I don't know what you downloaded, but readme's usually have instructions
[14:27] <conartist> i run the tar command from my terminal?
[14:27] <mmm4m5m> Question: is there some advanced log viewer with plugins architecture - so you could write some scripts and make it custom log viewer (like apache log viewer)?
[14:27] <conartist> after i unzipped it?
[14:27] <unocrash> ok
[14:28] <unocrash> its done.
[14:28] <unocrash> \\back
[14:28] <itai-michaelson> conartist - read the READMEfile
[14:28] <conartist> and i should do all the steps there
[14:28] <conartist> ?
[14:28] <LaRoza> yes
[14:28] <conartist> ok
[14:28] <itai-michaelson> conartist YES
[14:29] <itai-michaelson> conartist, make sure you understand what you are doing, so you can undo it later'
[14:29] <conartist> ok
[14:29] <conartist> i unzziped the file
[14:30] <conartist> into my home folder
[14:30] <conartist> my profile
[14:30] <donciccio_> I have one application that I can not execute on WINE.  It says: impossible to open database. "sitocmenu.nfo" can not be open. Write protected.
[14:30] <unocrash> whats a good iTunes Like program for Ubuntu.
[14:30] <unocrash> Rythymbox?
[14:30] <Lucias_O`Neil> LaRoza, It says that I have the latest version of compiz already installed.
[14:30] <LaRoza> Yes
[14:30] <LjL> mmm4m5m: perhaps "modlogan"
[14:30] <LaRoza> Install the plugins and settings manager
[14:30] <LaRoza> Search in synaptic for "compiz" and you will see them
[14:30] <conartist> after that i do : tar xfvj alcsound.tar.bz2
[14:30] <Lucias_O`Neil> LaRoza, That errors.
[14:30] <conartist> in the terminal right?
[14:31] <mmm4m5m> LjL: 10x, will check that
[14:31] <LjL> !players > unocrash    (unocrash, see the private message from Ubotu)
[14:31] <GlenQuagmire> donciccio: what are the file-permissions of sitocmenu.nfo ?
[14:31] <LaRoza> Lucias_O`Neil: Errors? From what?
[14:31] <itai-michaelson> conartist, i think you can just doubleclisk on it in nautilus and it will give you the option to extract it
[14:32] <conartist> and i do extract her?
[14:32] <LaRoza> itai-michaelson: Or right click and select "Extract Here"
[14:32] <donciccio_> reading only
[14:32] <conartist> here*
[14:32] <Jaymac> christophoros: did you get your dvd to work?
[14:32] <conartist> ?
[14:32] <tobberoth> Seems I'm only getting sound output from my left speaker... what do I do?
[14:32] <Lucias_O`Neil> LaRoza, The packed itsself does, I run this: sudo dpkg -i compiz-settings_0.07-2_i386.deb        and get this:sudo dpkg -i compiz-settings_0.07-2_i386.deb
[14:33] <LaRoza> Forums are back up
[14:33] <Lucias_O`Neil> LaRoza, Errors were encountered while processing:*
[14:33] <itai-michaelson> conartist, yes
[14:33] <LaRoza> What gave that error? Lucias_O`Neil
[14:34] <donciccio_> GlenQuagmire: reading only
[14:34] <Lucias_O`Neil> LaRoza, It just says that it can not be proccessed.
[14:34] <sebrock> anyone knows how to update dpkg db?
[14:34] <LaRoza> What says that... Lucias_O`Neil
[14:34] <soundray> sebrock: 'sudo apt-get update'
[14:35] <sebrock> soundray: will that remove 'pn' messages from dpkg?
[14:35] <Lucias_O`Neil> LaRoza, this command:  sudo dpkg -i compiz-settings_0.07-2_i386.deb
[14:35] <LaRoza> run this command Lucias_O`Neil
[14:35] <conartist> ok
[14:35] <sebrock> nope didnt do it
[14:35] <itai-michaelson> conartist, i just read the README you should follow their instructions and post any errors here, i suspect you will have ro install buildessential before you start
[14:35] <Lucias_O`Neil> LaRoza, Run what command?
[14:36] <LaRoza> sudo aptitude install compizconfig-settings-manager compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-main
[14:36] <LaRoza> That one
[14:36] <soundray> sebrock: you mean from dpkg -l? Try 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[14:36] <LaRoza> Copy and paste it
[14:36] <conartist> i extracted the alsa driver1-0-4
[14:36] <itai-michaelson> conartist run this command sudo apt-get install build-essential
[14:36] <Lucias_O`Neil> LaRoza, No errors, let me test it.
[14:36] <conartist> ok man
[14:37] <sebrock> soundray: hm... its just the 'pn' status that I want to remove from an kernel image that I removed with apt-get
[14:37] <LaRoza> Lucias_O`Neil: You might want to add 'compiz-plugins' to that list also
[14:37] <conartist> i ran that command
[14:37] <itai-michaelson> conartist then follow the README , (a. ./configure	b. make	c. make install	d. ./snddevices)
[14:38] <conartist> it asked me for my ubuntu disk
[14:38] <soundray> sebrock: 'pn' means "purged - not installed". Why would you want to change that?
[14:38] <conartist> now i m installing it
[14:38] <conartist> ok
[14:38] <conartist> done
[14:38] <Lucias_O`Neil> LaRoza,  When I try: compiz-settings, I get: bash: compiz-settings: command not found?
[14:38] <conartist> in the readme text
[14:38] <conartist> it says step 2
[14:38] <sebrock> soundray: I dont have it anymore, I dont see a reason for it to be in DB?
[14:38] <conartist> "turn on sound support"
[14:39] <soundray> !enter | conartist
[14:39] <ubotu> conartist: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[14:39] <conartist> how do i do that
[14:39] <conartist> ?
[14:39] <LaRoza> Go to System->Preferences->Advanced Desktop Effects
[14:39] <LaRoza> Or something
[14:39] <Lucias_O`Neil> LaRoza, That doesn't appear on the preferences menu >.<
[14:40] <conartist> how do i turn on my sound support (soundcore module, default turn on)?
[14:40] <LaRoza> Lucias_O`Neil: I may have missed that package, hold on.
[14:40] <soundray> sebrock: just leave it as it is. You're only creating trouble for yourself by trying to remove a package more than purging does
[14:41] <itai-michaelson> conartist i think its turned on
[14:41] <conartist> ok man
[14:41] <vbhide> hi there! for some strange reason, winxp can see my samba file shares, but i can't see my windows shares from ubuntu... any idea?
[14:41] <LaRoza> Lucias_O`Neil: Did you install compizconfig-settings-manageer?
[14:41] <itai-michaelson> conartist,      cd linux_r101/
[14:42] <itai-michaelson> then
[14:42] <itai-michaelson>     tar xfvj alcsound.tar.bz2
[14:42] <conartist> after that....it says complied source code..1. ./configure, b make , c, make install, and d, ./snddevices???
[14:42] <conartist> guide me pls
[14:42] <Lucias_O`Neil> LaRoza, That would be a negative.
[14:42] <LaRoza> Install it, Lucias_O`Neil
[14:43] <conartist> ok i m in linux_r101
[14:43] <conartist> what now?
[14:44] <conartist> what do i do now...i do not understand this part
[14:44] <michael__> run ./configure (if you havent allready
[14:44] <itai-michaelson> conartist, run this command : ./configure
[14:44] <_SuN_> hi all
[14:44] <archman> guys can someone recommend me any sound recording app except ardour and audacity?
[14:45] <itai-michaelson> conartist, then run make then make install and so on.....
[14:45] <conartist> i m trying
[14:45] <conartist> hold on
[14:45] <TheFearsomeFufu> I went to System->Administration->Screens And Graphics    and sent my monitor resolution to be 1280x1024 (and it changes and works fine). However, when I log out or reboot or anything, it changes it back to the default 1024x768. How can I make the change permanant?
[14:45] <donciccio_> I have one application that I can not execute on WINE.  It says: impossible to open database. "sitocmenu.nfo" can not be open. Write protected.
[14:45] <soundray> archman: there is a very simple one in the sox package
[14:45] <_SuN_> how to remove programs start notification from taskbar?
[14:46] <larson9999> if the world was any better i'd burst
[14:46] <soundray> archman: 'sudo apt-get install sox && man rec'
[14:46] <conartist> i did configure
[14:46] <archman> soundray: thanks
[14:46] <_SuN_> how to remove programs start notification from taskbar?
[14:47] <michael__> this blows i cant get vmware
[14:47] <itai-michaelson> conartist, what the next stage?
[14:47] <conartist> it gives me errors
[14:47] <conartist> when i install it
[14:48] <conartist> on the make install step
[14:48] <michael__> cinsrtist did you run the make??
[14:48] <itai-michaelson> conartist, what are the errors ?
[14:48] <conartist> how ca i show them to you?
[14:48] <LaRoza> sudo aptitude install build-essential
[14:48] <conartist> copy paste here
[14:48] <conartist> ?
[14:48] <soundray> !pastebin | conartist
[14:48] <LaRoza> conartist: Do you have build-essential installed?
[14:48] <ubotu> conartist: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[14:48] <Lucias_O`Neil> LaRoza, It seems that the settings manager is no under Fusion?
[14:48] <itai-michaelson> conartist, paste here : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[14:48] <LaRoza> Did you install it Lucias_O`Neil?
[14:48] <donciccio_> I have one application that I can not execute on WINE.  It says: impossible to open database. "sitocmenu.nfo" can not be open. Write protected.
[14:48] <vbhide> how do i skip the login window at startup in ubuntu 7.04?
[14:49] <LaRoza> It is in the login section in the Administration or Preferences
[14:49] <itai-michaelson> conartist, you did install build-essentials like i told you to right?
[14:49] <LaRoza> You can have it automatically log in, or after a certain time
[14:49] <soundray> vbhide: you want to login automatically?
[14:49] <conartist> yeah man
[14:49] <conartist> wait a sec
[14:49] <conartist> i ll give you the link
[14:50] <conartist> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62318/
[14:50] <conartist> look
[14:50] <soundray> donciccio_: what are the permissions on sitocmenu.nfo?
[14:50] <Lucias_O`Neil> LaRoza, No, because I can not find the correct package...
[14:50] <SpookyET> I have found a nice dar backup script. But it does not support ssh. It can, however, mount directories. Is it possible to have a on demand sshfs fstab entry that is not mounted at startup? I want the script to mount/unmount.
[14:50] <Azodon> vbhide : system - admin-login window -
[14:50] <donciccio_> reading only
[14:50] <LaRoza> Lucias_O`Neil: Do you have all repositories enabled?
[14:50] <f0rmat> i can't add users anymore :S
[14:51] <Lucias_O`Neil> LaRoza, Correct
[14:51] <donciccio_> and execute file as an application
[14:51] <LaRoza> Lucias_O`Neil: If you go into Synaptic, and search for "compiz" you don't get anything?
[14:51] <soundray> !who | donciccio_
[14:51] <ubotu> donciccio_: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[14:52] <conartist> that s the log
[14:52] <QDogg> Good morning.
[14:52] <conartist> on the 3rd step...
[14:52] <donciccio_> soundray: root
[14:52] <conartist> when i do make install
[14:52] <soundray> donciccio_: so set it to be writable with chmod 644
[14:52] <Lucias_O`Neil> LaRoza, I just get my history.
[14:52] <donciccio_> soundray: but it is on a CD-rom
[14:53] <conartist> so?
[14:53] <conartist> what shoul i do?
[14:53] <soundray> donciccio_: and change ownership to your username with 'sudo chown $USER:$USER sitocmenu.nfo'
[14:53] <ries> Hey guys... I want to have an FTP server installed on ubuntu, but don't want to allow the users the browse over the filesystem and just allow access in his home directory
[14:53] <LaRoza> Lucias_O`Neil: What? Your history?
[14:53] <ries> what  what FTP server shall I use ??
[14:53] <Tengu> ries: pureftp
[14:53] <Lucias_O`Neil> LaRoza, But I know it is installed because it starts when I login and I can manually start it.
[14:53] <soundray> donciccio_: then you have to copy it to your hard disk drive
[14:53] <ries> Tengu: will install that... thansk
[14:53] <recon> ries: pureftp works pretty well.
[14:53] <LaRoza> You can start what Lucias_O`Neil?
[14:53] <soundray> !ftpd | ries
[14:53] <ubotu> ries: FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[14:53] <donciccio_> Ok soundray
[14:54] <conartist> have you found something itai?>??
[14:54] <itai-michaelson> conartist not sure
[14:54] <cheese> Sorry to ask for help when this place is so busy, but since their wiki is down, can anybody give me some help with installing Beryl on Gutsy?
[14:54] <Lucias_O`Neil> LaRoza, When I start compiz
[14:54] <root> .
[14:54] <Tengu> ries: just have to config it a bit to chroot users. there are more features you can set.
[14:54] <conartist> so what do i do now
[14:54] <conartist> ?
[14:54] <LaRoza> cheese: Beryl is discontinued, use Compiz
[14:54] <ries> soundray: I just needed an opinion, I know how to get that list....
[14:54] <itai-michaelson> conartist, i would post it in the forum, insculding your sound card, the link to the download and the error in configure.
[14:54] <LaRoza> cheese: Search for Compiz in Synaptic, and install the settings manager and plugins
[14:54] <QDogg> I am having trouble changing my themes while using systems->preferences->appearance. it seems that the screen hangs up on me and I cannot make changes
[14:55] <conartist> showul i run the steps again???
[14:55] <conartist> should*
[14:55] <cheese> Thanks, Laroza
[14:55] <Tengu> ries: moreover, you can configure pureftp to use a DB such as mysql for user administration [with quotas and so on]
[14:55] <erUSUL> !beryl | cheese
[14:55] <ubotu> cheese: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[14:55] <ries> Tengu: I did see that... it' snot needed since it's just about one user
[14:55] <soundray> QDogg: in a terminal, run 'tail -f ~/.xsession-errors' and see if an error message is logged as it "hangs up"
[14:56] <thatGuy> .
[14:56] <cheese> !compiz
[14:56] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[14:56] <Tengu> ries: ok. but just know "you can do it" ;)
[14:56] <cheese> Ubotu is awesome. LO
[14:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is awesome. lo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:56] <ries> Tengu: thanks anyways....
[14:56] <itai-michaelson> conartist : look here , this guy managed to get the same card working : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=696553
[14:56] <conartist> ok
[14:56] <itai-michaelson> conartist you should PM him
[14:56] <LaRoza> Good bye everyone. Now that the forums have been up, I can leave here
[14:57] <sh4rm4> is there a way to inititalize a hardware search.  i just plugged in a pcmcia express card that was formerly known by the sys but know its not listed in lspci
[14:57] <Lanzusss> ciao raga
[14:57] <conartist> i dont understand man
[14:58] <conartist> that link does not have a sollution
[14:58] <conartist> how do i do that???
[14:58] <conartist> the pm thing
[14:58] <QDogg> bash: tail -f ~/.xsession-errors: No such file or directory
[14:59] <andrepandre> Is there a way to hide some drives/partitions to show up in the Places menu? I specifically chose "dontuse" during the installation for a number of partitions (and they were correctly not mounted), but they still show up in the Places menu.
[14:59] <TheFearsomeFufu> When I press ctrl+alt+f1, it should bring me to a terminal window, right?
[14:59] <sigit> big_dady
[15:00] <hischild> TheFearsomeFufu, try f2 for a better terminal
[15:00] <TheFearsomeFufu> hischild: When I go to any of them, my monitor just turns off O_o
[15:00] <hischild> TheFearsomeFufu, f1 is sometimes cluttered with startup info, as is f8. f2 should be clear.
[15:00] <TheFearsomeFufu> I have to go back to F7 for gnome
[15:00] <hischild> TheFearsomeFufu, that's odd ... and yes f7 is the x window again.
[15:01] <TheFearsomeFufu> maybe the resolution on them is screwed up, and my monitor just turns off. Is there a way I can set the resolution for them?
[15:01] <tdela> Hi, can anyone recommend a converter for movies to iPod for Linux? goin on a business trip, need some movies on my iPod for the boring-ness of it.
[15:02] <Azodon> good terminal web browser? lynx is out isnt it?
[15:02] <amenado> Azodon-> is it really? try w3m too..
[15:03] <Azodon> thank you
[15:03] <RickJames> hello. i'm trying to install gai (general applet library) and libsdl . i tried synaptic and apt-cache search. are these known by another name in the ubuntu world ?
[15:03] <wers> which compresses better, rar or zip? (imma send to a windows user so dont ask me to tar :D)
[15:04] <RickJames> winrar uncompresses tarballs
[15:04] <Frogger626> I think that .rar has better compressionability
[15:04] <hischild> wers, rar
[15:04] <wers> okeii. thanks :)
[15:04] <Rotlaus> In Gnome or from gdm i can shut down my computer without giving a password. How can i do that from a command line or from a script?
[15:04] <mmm4m5m> Question hi LjL. I can't find modlogan screen shoot. Is it console tool? Best match is console tool like htop UI - to display columns, sorting, custom filters and actions (when I analyze log file, I could decide to run specific action)
[15:05] <ensi> Tatanka: i get this in my syslog
[15:05] <TheFearsomeFufu> Rotlaus: You have to be root to shutdown/reboot the system. Type "man shutdown"
[15:05] <amenado> RickJames-> arent applets  jar files? so I dont think they will be in deb packages ?
[15:05] <ensi> Tatanka: nvidia module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel
[15:05] <Rotlaus> TheFearsomeFufu, but ican just in gnome shut down my system, and i dont have to give my password
[15:06] <LjL> mmm4m5m, yes it's a console tool that outputs HTML (to be viewed in a web browser), see « apt-cache show modlogan ». GUIs for viewing logs are available, but i don't think any of them is modular with plugins
[15:06] <Tatanka> ensi: then it should be loaded...
[15:06] <TheFearsomeFufu> Rotlaus: gnome must use sudo or some other privlidged-user to run the shutdown command
[15:06] <RickJames> gai installs via ./confiure. when i try to install it i get this error : configure: error: No header files for X windows is found. Is xlib devel installed?
[15:06] <ompaul> Rotlaus  sudo shutdown -h now
[15:06] <ensi> Tatanka: but it isnt.
[15:06] <ompaul> !supportroot | TheFearsomeFufu
[15:06] <ubotu> TheFearsomeFufu: We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-)
[15:07] <Rotlaus> ompaul, i know. But this ask for my password. Gnome or gdm dont ask.
[15:07] <RickJames> the author of the program i'm trying to install says i need gai and libsdl . but i seem to be missing too many files to make these work (?)
[15:07] <plurt> hmz, how do I find out what is running my X if it isn't gdm?
[15:07] <Tatanka> ensi: maybe there's some error after it? If lsmod doesn't tell you, the module is loaded, then there's something wrong with the module, I guess
[15:07] <ensi> Tatanka: its trying to load wrong version, dunno whereit comes up with it
[15:08] <SpookyET> This dar backup script with fuse sshfs and a fstab entry totally rocks rdiff-backup is totally unreliable.
[15:08] <amenado> Rotlaus-> before you shutdown please do a sync; sync; sync on a terminal, then ctrl+alt+del and turn off
[15:08] <leeuw> testing
[15:09] <pois0n`> Everytime i try to install ubuntu 7.10 on my amd64 box, the kernel panic's no matter which option i pick on the boot up screen of the live cd, i burned 2 cd's same thing, and then i gave up and tried to install the 6.0 TLS version and i get an X server error
[15:09] <hischild> leeuw, profit
[15:09] <Tatanka> ensi: then go search for it en eliminate it (preferably with apt) ;)
[15:09] <amenado> RickJames-> maybe the README file says you need those dependencies?
[15:09] <leeuw> hischild: ???
 testing ==> we can see it ... aka profit
[15:10] <leeuw> hischild: I get it, thanx !
[15:10] <leeuw> just wanted to be sure my nick worked
[15:10] <pois0n`> anyone know whats wrong?
[15:10] <leeuw> and my line was on, since firefox won't go
[15:10] <ensi> Tatanka: i dont get this doing "locate nvidia.ko" finds only one single nvidia.ko
[15:11] <Tatanka> updatedb
[15:11] <Kronoxys`> bordel
[15:11] <wers> how do I compress to rar?
[15:11] <ensi> Tatanka: having "nvidia" in /etc/modules produces that error about wrong version, doing "modprobe -i nvidia" loads the correct version
[15:11] <ensi> Tatanka: yeah done that
[15:11] <mmm4m5m> LjL, it is not exactly log file. Input file could be customized - it is items with properties. But finally I want to be able to view it in console with columns, custom filters and actions. It could be "console catalog program" or "console db front end". Best match is "text/csv input file". Just searching around before selecting "vim with macros" or something like that.
[15:11] <hischild> wers, use rar (install it first)
[15:11] <Shadow_> Can i get some help over here?
[15:12] <amenado> pois0n`-> dont know if there is such a thing as amd version as opposed to i386 ? look at the site where you have downloaded the iso ?
[15:12] <wers> hischild, thanks! :)
[15:12] <hischild> wers, you're welcome
[15:12] <Shadow_> Every time i turn on UBUNTU 7.10 i get black and orage flicker
[15:12] <mmm4m5m> Question: LjL, any console tool which show columns and have filters plus actions (execute XYZ with parameter line1,col2)
[15:12] <Tatanka> ensi: maybe you should update the initrd, but that's just a guess... Try reinstall the nvidia-drivers?
[15:13] <ensi> Tatanka: jesus, i've been isntalling and unistalling nvidia drivers for a day now
[15:13] <michael__> hey anyone use playonlinux??
[15:13] <Tatanka> ensi: I'm just here for an hour now...
[15:14] <ensi> Tatanka: ok :)
[15:14] <Shadow_> Can someone help me plz... Everytime i boot ubuntu 7.10 i get orange and black flicker
[15:14] <conartist> hjope to get and answer
[15:14] <LjL> mmm4m5m: does it have to be console?
[15:14] <ensi> Tatanka: i just dont get how i can find a single .ko in the system but yet it comes up with two different versions...
[15:14] <conartist> i ve post replied that topic
[15:14] <irotas> ensi: there's a nice automated way to install the correct nvidia drivers for you
[15:14] <irotas> ensi: let me see if i can remember
[15:14] <ensi> irotas: the script
[15:14] <irotas> ensi: there is a script out there on the web
[15:14] <mmm4m5m> LjL: even simple gedit is good enough (I think I could add custom side pane, custom menu items, input file could be with fixed columns) but it is not console application
[15:14] <jack_spratt> can someone test this site, its giving me a server error: http://www.blender.org/education-help/tutorials/
[15:14] <hischild> Ironhand, don't suggest envy or automatix please.
[15:15] <ensi> envy
[15:15] <Shadow_> ok...
[15:15] <hischild> irotas, ^
[15:15] <irotas> ensi: yes!
[15:15] <mmm4m5m> LjL: if possible yes, other way any spreadsheet will do it
[15:15] <hischild> !envy | irotas
[15:15] <ubotu> irotas: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[15:15] <sedra> hi
[15:15] <ensi> irotas: it doesnt matter, i've built the driver
[15:15] <keir__> hi, i think something is wrong with one of my hard drives, when i do dmesg i get his output: [  869.293690] ata7.01: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen
[15:15] <ensi> theres just this problem with loading it which i cant understand
[15:15] <amenado> jack_spratt-> its 500 error for now
[15:15] <LjL> mmm4m5m: well, there are console spreadsheets. although it's more like a DB frontend you're looking for
[15:15] <keir__> how do i figure out which devide is causing this?
[15:15] <irotas> ensi: good luck :)
[15:16] <mmm4m5m> LjL: will check that... I have long list to check, that is why decide to ask first
[15:16] <mmm4m5m> LjL: 10x a lot
[15:16] <jack_spratt> amenado: ok, its not just me then. what does 500 mean anyway?
[15:16] <Shadow_> how do i fix orange and black flicker at startup? (Before the login screen)
[15:16] <Kate5492> hello, i have big file contain 22175107 lines , and i would like to split the file using this command :  "split -l10000" but i get some error msg : "split: Output file suffixes exhausted" what does it mean ?
[15:16] <LjL> mmm4m5m: "sc" and "oleo" are spreadsheet for the console
[15:16] <amenado> jack_spratt-> says internal error, server is having a fit
[15:16] <Shadow_> =(
[15:17] <donciccio> soundray: I get the following message: impossible to open infobase. Infobase can only be assessed from a CD-ROM
[15:17] <jack_spratt> amenado: k thanks
[15:17] <Tatanka> ensi: my last guess: sudo update-initramfs -c -k all (and/or just check if nvidia.ko is in the initrd somewhere)
[15:17] <amenado> Kate5492-> it run out of file names  from aaa  to zzz ?
[15:17] <Shadow_> I was trying to fix the damn flicker for a week now... Will anyone help me plz finally???
[15:17] <hischild> Kate5492, it means you're trying to split it into to many files. Try looking for an option that allows you to set more suffixes for the files.
[15:17] <Slart> Shadow_: what kind of flicker?
[15:18] <mmm4m5m> LjL: yes, I saw these. Most important is - it must allow me, like gedit plugins where I can add menu items - I need to add custom filters and actions in order to be more user friendly. Even not sure all db front end will allow me to do that.
[15:18] <Slart> Shadow_: after the login?
[15:18] <Shadow_> at startup before login screen
[15:18] <Shadow_> orange and black
[15:18] <mmm4m5m> LjL: That is why I told vim could be good enough for me
[15:18] <Slart> Shadow_: have you tried changing the login window background to black?
[15:18] <Shadow_> how?
[15:18] <Kate5492> hischild: i am new 2 Ubuntu can you help me please ?
[15:18] <donciccio> soundray?
[15:18] <Slart> Shadow_: I think it's in System, Preferences, Login window
[15:19] <ensi> is there a list of modules/names/files some mapping somewhere in /etc perhaps?
[15:19] <LjL> mmm4m5m: or emacs for that matter, you're almost 100% sure to find the exact plugins you're looking for for emacs, just need to be lucky enough to spot them amount the thousands :)
[15:19] <Shadow_>  o ok but the flicker is when actuall os is booting
[15:19] <mmm4m5m> LjL: I like htop... is there such library which help for creating such applications?
[15:19] <mmm4m5m> LjL: sure, will check about emacs and emacs plugins also
[15:19] <hischild> Kate5492, alright give me a second.
[15:20] <Shadow_> should be ubuntu loading bar but insteads i get flicker
[15:20] <LjL> mmm4m5m: no idea honestly... htop itself just uses ncurses
[15:20] <Zangetsu> hi all
[15:20] <Slart> Shadow_: ahh.. the splash screen..
[15:20] <Shadow_> ummm i think so
[15:21] <Slart> Shadow_: you can disable the splashscreen by changing a line in the grub boot settings file.. /boot/grub/menu.lst
[15:21] <Shadow_> i will check that
[15:21] <mmm4m5m> LjL: ok, 10x a lot for help. I am very new in linux, so looks like I have to accept fact that first solution will not be best.
[15:21] <tacone> hello "update-manager --devel-release" downloads the installer then freezes. anyone ?
[15:21] <michael__> hmmm when i plug my girlfriends brothers MP3 player in to my laptop its contents shows up in my trash and inorder to add any music i have to put it in my trash ?? nay idea how to make it show up on the drive itself =P
[15:21] <mmm4m5m> but will search around for any case
[15:21] <Zangetsu> mm i have a question
[15:21] <hischild> Kate5492, split -a 2 -l 10000<filename> (both lower case, the second one is an L)
[15:21] <Slart> Shadow_: open the file by running this in a terminal, gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[15:22] <Shadow_> the problem doesn't happen with live cd
[15:22] <LjL> mmm4m5m: you're looking for something not entirely common :) perhaps can you describe just what you're working with and are trying to achieve? maybe there are solutions you didn't consider
[15:22] <Zangetsu> i have determined my soundcard with the lspci command, and I just cant find a linux driver for that card
[15:23] <Zangetsu> is there a solution?
[15:23] <Slart> Shadow_: well.. I don't know how to *fix* the splash screen.. but I can tell you how to remove it.
[15:23] <michael__> damn my battery is going bad on my laptop
[15:23] <Shadow_> what do i change ion menu.lst?
[15:23] <michael__> linux is telling me haha it says my capicity at the moment is 70% and thats a full charge!!!
[15:23] <hischild> Kate5492, split -a 4 -l 10000 <filename> (sorry, the 2 should be a 4)
[15:24] <Zangetsu> haha lol what notebook you have?
[15:24] <MoonFog> hey guys, quick question: i'm running hardy heron (ubuntu flavour), and i have no sound in flash movies. after looking around for a while, i found out that it might have something to do with pulseaudio, and when i did "killall pulseaudio", the sound is back. Problem now is, it still restarts every time i reboot and i can't really remove it without removing "ubuntu-desktop"
[15:24] <MoonFog> any ideas ?
[15:24] <hischild> !hardy | MoonFog
[15:24] <ubotu> MoonFog: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[15:24] <michael__> and acer aspire 5610z
[15:24] <emma> you have the other 30% filled with bubble gum.
[15:24] <Zangetsu> the other 30% was stolen by the linux community, cause we are evil
[15:25] <michael__> i mean i leave it plugged in alot so that could be the issue
[15:25] <Zangetsu> and we eat energy
[15:25] <MoonFog> hischild: crap, sorry
[15:25] <Slart> Shadow_: in that file should be a line starting with   # defoptions=
[15:25] <hischild> MoonFog, no problem.
[15:25] <Ashfire908> Does anyone here have a identd server running on their computer(s) that successfuly handles being NATed?
[15:25] <amenado> Shadow_-> press esc when you have the menu, down arrow key to kernel line and press e
[15:25] <michael__> i dont let the battery discharge
[15:25] <frogzoo> !docs
[15:25] <ubotu> documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[15:25] <RickJames> !xlib | RickJames
[15:25] <Slart> Shadow_: you probably have some stuff after the equals-char
[15:25] <Zangetsu> it's really noobish from me to talk on a linux irc chan from a windows client
[15:26] <amenado> michael__-> then your battery will have the phenomena of battery memory
[15:26] <izinucs> Ashfire908, you might also ask that in #ubuntu-server
[15:26] <Zangetsu> at least i should use xchat or somethin
[15:26] <Shadow_> it sais queitspash
[15:26] <Slart> Shadow_: quiet splash ?
[15:26] <Shadow_> yeah
[15:26] <Slart> Shadow_: remove the word splash
[15:26] <Slart> Shadow_: and save the file
[15:26] <michael__> amenado, yeah thats why im thinking its saying that its only charging to 97% and linux is telling me its capicty is only 70% of what its suppose to be
[15:26] <amenado> Shadow_-> delete those two and press b to boot
[15:26] <Shadow_> title		Ubuntu 7.10
[15:26] <Shadow_> root		(hd1,0)
[15:26] <Shadow_> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=16473c07-b5bf-451b-8802-a0defbadabf9 ro quiet splash
[15:26] <Shadow_> initrd		/boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
[15:26] <Shadow_> quiet
[15:26] <FloodBot2> Shadow_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:27] <Shadow_> ty
[15:27] <amenado> michael__-> so once in a while try to let your battery discharge fully
[15:27] <mmm4m5m> LjL: description is litle hard. Ok forget about console, it could be GUI. One completely not perfect example is - if it was windows, I could use excel, I could sort by column(s), I could define "custom filter", I could show/hide rows, I could execute actions like "search_text_in_google current_col_row". Filters and actions could be very complex I do not want to memorize them. I want to make them available like menu items with shor
[15:27] <Shadow_> i will try to reboot and see what happens
[15:27] <michael__> amenado, think ill get that 30% back ??
[15:27] <Shadow_> brb
[15:28] <Slart> Shadow_: I was talking about the line *starting* with # defoptions=... there are other lines containing the words quiet, splash etc
[15:28] <amenado> michael__->  dont know, but worth a try
[15:28] <Slart> Shadowpillar: we're not finished
[15:28] <Zangetsu> hey guys
[15:28] <Zangetsu> im having a problem with my soundcard on my ubunty 7.04
[15:28] <amenado> michael__-> memory phenom on battery is not erasable? :P
[15:28] <michael__> amenado, nothing to lose im just glad to be of windows ubuntu is such a better os !!
[15:28] <root> root
[15:28] <erUSUL> !sound | Zangetsu
[15:29] <ubotu> Zangetsu: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[15:29] <Zangetsu> what does the !sound cmd do? :D
[15:29] <michael__> amenado, yeah but ive heard of batteries going bad because of being left plugged in all the time, didnt know if it wads ture guess ill let my run down alot more
[15:29] <wers> is there an opml editor for linux?
[15:29] <Zangetsu> yes ive determined my soundcard with lspci, but i didnt came to find a driver, and ALSA didnt recognize when i installed and stuff
[15:30] <mmm4m5m> LjL: imagine input file is pidgin system log (buddy status). I want very quickly to open, apply few filters and see "person X usually come online at 9:00h". This is just example. And I do_not_want to create separate grep/sed/awk scripts for everything, like "show_person_X_login_time.sh". Because in my case this mean many separate scripts.
[15:30] <ensi> Tatanka: how do i check the initrd?
[15:30] <LjL> mmm4m5m: yes i think i understand, but it's tough, especially if you want it on the console
[15:31] <amenado> ensi you can create a directory and then cd to that dir and   gzip -dc initrd.gz | cpio -id
[15:31] <izinucs> michael__, you normally have to cycle (let run down then charge) a battery if it is a nickel-cadmium battery.. less so witlh a nickel-metal-hydride... and never with a lithium.
[15:31] <Zangetsu> hoho, ive found a section to what to do if my soundcard is not found
[15:31] <Zangetsu> awesome, maybe this'll help
[15:31] <amenado> ensi rather  /path/to/initrd.gz  instead of just initrd.gz
[15:31] <steven__> Is it bad to make sql db's as root on the sql server?
[15:31] <Shadow_> the flicker is gone but i get a lot of text now =D
[15:32] <michael__> izinucs, mines lithium ion, but see why would it be telling me my capacity is only 70% of what it should be ??
[15:32] <tdela> steven__: generally not a good idea.
[15:32] <ChaosTheory> So I've just installed Attym. How do I run it?
[15:32] <amenado> Shadow_-> your choice text or flicker?
[15:32] <Shadow_> lolz
[15:32] <comicinke1> is there a tool that can align all my windows on the desktop like "above", "overlap" etc. ?
[15:32] <steven__> tdela, but is it a big deal, since if I am the owner, and will be making accounts with it, thus making it pointless for me to have 2 accounts with similar permissions ?
[15:33] <Shadow_> any way I can get the splash back and not keep the flicker?
[15:33] <Shadow_> =D
[15:33] <izinucs> michael__, false reading?.. older battery?  after a certain number of charges they usually start to go.. If it's over 3 years old start looking for a new batt.
[15:33] <amenado> steven__-> since you have pretty much already made up your mind, its difficult to convince you then
[15:33] <RickJames> !xorg-x11-Mesa-devel | RickJames
[15:33] <freeman163> i tried testing the sound through the preferences>sound menu, but now theres just a high-pitched beep playing through my speakers, and it wont stop? what should i do?
[15:34] <ensi> amenado: umh, i cant find initrd.gz anywhere in the system :)
[15:34] <tdela> steven__: you don't vreate "2" accounts, you add mysql accounts. The idea of it being a bad idea is a) If anyone were to gain root access, they have full access to all of your databases and 2) if you allow remote root access then anyone from the outside can perhaps attempt to get in
[15:34] <michael__> trun them down =P
[15:34] <amenado> ensi look under /boot
[15:34] <michael__> turn**
[15:34] <mmm4m5m> LjL: if not console? One more details about my first example - the excel solution. It will require to import data instead to open csv file. Because excel store data with formating. I will need excel template file where to import my log (csv) file. And again - windows/excel is bad, because something are harder (not possible) to automate.
[15:34] <steven__> true, well I'll do the right way, how do you change the sql's root password
[15:34] <erUSUL> info multtail | mmm4m5m
[15:34] <]Spectre[> hi
[15:34] <donciccio> soundray?
[15:34] <erUSUL> !info multitail | mmm4m5m
[15:34] <ubotu> mmm4m5m: multitail (source: multitail): view multiple logfiles windowed on console. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.0.5-1 (gutsy), package size 117 kB, installed size 336 kB
[15:34] <tdela> steven__: say you had a db named employees, you just create a user/pass for that db in the db and grant the permissions the user needs to do its data management
[15:34] <mmm4m5m> erUSUL: 10x, will check it
[15:34] <ensi> amenado: nope, theres initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
[15:35] <amenado> steven__-> you did some tutorial on your sql before have you not?
[15:35] <ensi> but no *.gz
[15:35] <amenado> ensi-> thats the same
[15:35] <erUSUL> mmm4m5m: also if you are processing csv files awk or a combination of cut grep sort with pipes are the answer ;)
[15:35] <Shadow_> so boot is there any way to customise the bootloader splash screen?
[15:36] <Shadow_> as in replace it
[15:36] <erUSUL> !usplash | Shadow_
[15:36] <RickJames> !xwindows | rickjames
[15:36] <Shadow_> o ty
[15:36] <ubotu> Shadow_: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[15:36] <steven__> amenado, no I wing it with phpmyadmin pretty much
[15:36] <tacone> hello "update-manager --devel-release" downloads the installer then freezes. anyone can help me ?
[15:36] <Shadow_> ty
[15:36]  * RickJames sighs
[15:37] <amenado> steven__-> no wonder your question didnt seem to be sysadmin like.. :P ..go do a tutorial and you get some insight as to why things are done certain way
[15:37] <pawan> hi
[15:37] <pawan> where is wine files sotred
[15:37] <Shadow_> i want my Ubuntu to be perfect ;)
[15:37] <steven__> amenado, Hm, or I could take the advice I gained here, and wing it some more, and end up with a pretty okay service ;P
[15:38] <mmm4m5m> erUSUL, LjL: I just start thinking again to pipe few commands... but to prevent long typing in console, to make custom_scripts which allow me to pipe (still new in linux, not easy to get the easiest way)
[15:38] <freeman163> pawan, in the .wine folder in your home directory
[15:38] <ensi> amenado: ok, i cant find any nvidia.ko in the initrd
[15:38] <RickJames> !V |rick
[15:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about v - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:38] <RickJames> erm
[15:38] <pawan> how to install rpm package
[15:39] <RickJames> !xlibs-dev | RickJames
[15:39] <izinucs> pawan.. you don't.. normally.. it may break your system.
[15:39] <mmm4m5m> erUSUL, LjL: instead cat file | grep | sed ... something like cat report_file | my_predefined_sort.sh | filter A
[15:39] <Zangetsu> hey, what are these commands?
[15:39] <pawan> http://rajasthan.bsnl.co.in/main/bbservices.htm
[15:39] <mmm4m5m> 10x a lot guys
[15:39] <pawan> i want to install broadband dialer for linux
[15:40] <erUSUL> mmm4m5m: as a said maybe an awk script of some sort...
[15:41] <hischild> does apt-mirror create a repository suitable for both x86 and x64?
[15:41] <mmm4m5m> erUSUL: yes, could be that... my custom scripts always do everything. I totally forgot that they also could be in pipe. So I did not consider it because thinking how will write long grep/sed/awk expression which will filter.
[15:41] <freeman163> i wouldnt get your dialer from them.
[15:41] <izinucs> pawan, if they have the source you can use alien and try to convert it to a .deb.. it looks like "broadband dialer" means you are using DSL or PPPOE in some fashion.. right?  if so there are other solutions to do the same thing in Ubuntu.
[15:41] <amenado> ensi run ldconfig ?
[15:42] <freeman163> there "linux dialer" comes as an .exe.....!
[15:42] <trym> Hey! Im having trouble installing a ttf font and getting it to work with netbeans (java apps in general?). The font works in other applications like oowriter. Running 7.10 64bit
[15:42] <prem> hai
[15:42] <ensi> amenado: what does ldconfig have to do with this?
[15:42] <pawan> ya
[15:42] <prem> what is best linux distro
[15:42] <steven__> amenado, You win this one >.> i'll read.
[15:42] <amenado> ensi-> you were looking for two modules? why do you ask such question?
[15:42] <bazhang> !fonts | trym
[15:42] <ubotu> trym: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[15:42] <gullstad> How can I check if a port is open whit terminal?
[15:43] <izinucs> prem, bad question.. ask Which distro you like the best.. Ubuntu of course.. for now..
[15:43] <Zangetsu> gullstad: iptables
[15:43] <ensi> amenado: yes, but isnt ldconfig just for updating system lib sym links?
[15:43] <RickJames> ok, i'm trying to install shermans fish screensaver. author says it needs gai & libsdl-dev . when i install gai it says i need xwindow headers (i.e. xlibs-devel) but it's not available on it's own only as a aprt of another package.
[15:43] <amenado> ensi man ldconfig
[15:43] <prem> best distro learning linux
[15:43] <RickJames> what is that package name? or how can i get this package ?
[15:44] <bazhang> !best | prem
[15:44] <ubotu> prem: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[15:44] <prem> what is best distro for learning linux
[15:44] <bazhang> prem see above
[15:44] <Zangetsu> i guess ubuntu is a good start
[15:44] <trym> bazhang: I cant really see that I forgot to do something - mind pointing at a section in the docs?
[15:44] <J1MB0> prem: Ubuntu :-)
[15:44] <Zangetsu> it's kinda userfriendly and stuff
[15:44] <Zangetsu> you can easily learn to use it if you come from windows
[15:44] <bazhang> prem this is not a polling channel thanks
[15:45] <freeman163> either redhat or ubuntu, they seem to be the most user friendly.
[15:45] <Zangetsu> geez, dont disappoint him, just wanted an advice
[15:45] <Zangetsu> it's a support channel isnt it?
[15:45] <prem> i am a college student
[15:45] <amenado> Zangetsu-> what is best to one is not same for others
[15:45] <bazhang> this is ubuntu support channel of course we would say ubuntu; not the right place for it prem maybe try #linux
[15:45] <prem> simple linux distro
[15:45] <Zangetsu> amenado: well yeah, you're right in that one
[15:46] <bazhang> prem that is offtopic here thanks
[15:46] <amenado> prem its best if you pick up a book on linux, and do some tutorials
[15:46] <Zangetsu> or visit a general linuxchannel
[15:46] <trym> any ideas?
[15:46] <Zangetsu> like mentioned above
[15:47] <bazhang> prem you can go here: www.distrowatch.com and see which is best
[15:47] <sedra> ubuntu
[15:47] <olifox> hey all. are there any ubuntu images for use on macbooks?
[15:47] <rsc___> hey guys
[15:47] <sedra> intel?
[15:47] <olifox> with the mactel patches?
[15:47] <bazhang> olifox: images as in jpegs or images such as iso files
[15:47] <olifox> sedra: yeah
[15:48] <rsc___> how do I stop Rhythmbox from launching when I connect my iPod?
[15:48] <Chousuke> olifox: the newest ubuntu should work pretty well
[15:48] <olifox> Chousuke: 7.10 or the beta?
[15:48] <Chousuke> olifox: it still doesn't support EFI natively though
[15:48] <Chousuke> olifox: 7.10
[15:48] <olifox> Chousuke: ok cool, i'll give it a try
[15:48] <olifox> thanks
[15:49] <mmm4m5m> erUSUL, LjL: sorry, with pipe and output to console it will not work. Imagine long file list. If I want to review and change owner what I do in console. It is "ls | less", then I interrupt, copy/paste file name, then I do "chown file", then I again run "ls | less". And this repeat 1000 times. I need UI to scroll down/up and run action(s) for different lines.
[15:49] <chimp___> during installation of ubuntu server i didnt select the LAMP option, but i want to retrospectively, is it worth reinstalling the server (its a fresh install) or is there a package that will install them together seemlessly like the LAMP option is supposed to
[15:49] <Chousuke> olifox: a word of warning though: the macbook firmware can't legacy-boot from external USB disks
[15:49] <ensi> amenado: ok, i still dont get it
[15:49] <Chousuke> olifox: so you can't install ubuntu on those.
[15:49] <ensi> amenado: still cant find more than that single nvidia.ko
[15:49] <christoz> hey guys i have problem with netbeans ...the program crashes
[15:50] <olifox> thanks for the warning, Chousuke
[15:50] <amenado> ensi i dont know, use find tool
[15:50] <MoonFog> christoz: Any error messages if you start netbeans from the command line?
[15:50] <christoz> i'd like to unistall it but i cannot find any unistall script in it;s folder
[15:50] <younes> bonjour :)
[15:50] <LjL> mmm4m5m, to do what you described automatically, you'd do "cat list-of-files | xargs -n 1 chown <options>" (or "ls" instead of "cat list-of-files", but then it sort of defeats the purpose)
[15:50] <mmm4m5m> erUSUL, LjL: because I have to review entries one by one, that is why I need filters to apply dynamically (instead generating temp files). I just can't define in advance "which lines (files) I need to change owner"
[15:50] <bazhang> !fr | younes
[15:50] <ubotu> younes: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[15:50] <KrisWood> Hi everyone
[15:50] <pawan> hello
[15:50] <MoonFog> christoz: The Netbeans installer is a bin file where you can choose "uninstall", and iirc, you can really just delete the directory where it was instsalled
[15:51] <pawan> going for swift dzire
[15:51] <christoz> MoonFog i can't run it from console...
[15:51] <amenado> christoz-> look the jar files and directory used by netbeans and erase those?
[15:51] <LjL> mmm4m5m: well, you can do that too...
[15:51] <MoonFog> christoz: But just use the bin to uninstall
[15:51] <MoonFog> christoz: why can't you run it from the command line?
[15:51] <pawan> is it a good car
[15:51] <mmm4m5m> LjL: give me a sec., I have to check what is xargs
[15:51] <christoz> cause it says that there is no netbeans
[15:51] <Zangetsu> pawan: you've just chosen the right channel
[15:51] <Itaku> lamp
[15:51] <Zangetsu> to talk about cars
[15:52] <bazhang> pawan a car? in ubuntu support channel? perhaps you need another channel thanks
[15:52] <pawan> just want to know
[15:52] <LjL> mmm4m5m: xargs is a little program that takes a list of files as input, and executes a command on each of them. it's one of several ways that you can do batch processing with bash
[15:52] <KrisWood> A few weeks ago I was in here asking about adding users to an SVN, but I forgot to write down the commands and now I can't remember them. If anyone could give me a couple hints to help me remember I'd appreciate it :) (I've got notepad ready to save the commands this time too!)
[15:52] <Zangetsu> we just want to know too
[15:52] <Itaku> link to lamp
[15:52] <Zangetsu> what youre doinghere
[15:52] <Itaku> !lamp
[15:52] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[15:52] <younes> svp j'ai un pb, c'est que j'ai des paquets corrompus (mon pc a surchauffé et planté pendant le download et l'install de ces paquets via synaptic)
[15:52] <younes> qu'est ce que je dois faire ?
[15:52] <MoonFog> christoz: That's the command, you can still run it by running the bin directly. for example "/opt/netbeans-xxx/bin/run.sh
[15:52] <younes> (l'idéal serait de supprimer tout ça et relancer le téléchargement)
[15:52] <Zangetsu> this bot knows everything about packages? :o
[15:53] <ensi> ok, since i cant get this pos to work correctly then is there a way to not start gdm on boot ?
[15:53] <bazhang> younes /j #ubuntu-fr thanks
[15:53] <ensi> so i can modprobe the module myself and then start x
[15:53] <piksel> is there a command that will tell me the total memory usage of an app?  The program runs too fast for me to watch a "top" screen.
[15:53] <christoz> there is nothing in /opt
[15:53] <christoz> MoonFrog
[15:53] <sluimers> !heron
[15:53] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[15:53] <mmm4m5m> LjL: the problem is, it is not fully automated task. I need to review, analyze and eventually run action1 or action2. Each line have attributes, with different meaning. So sort and filter will help for fast analyzes.
[15:53] <cerneula> hi! I have two computers, both running ubuntu, connected by a router. I want install a web server in one of them and access it from my other computer. What address do I have to direct my web browser to? How can I accomplish this? Many thanks for your help. BTW I'm fairly new to Linux
[15:54] <MoonFog> christoz: That was an example, I don't know where you installed netbeans, basically, navigate to the bin directory of your netbeans installation and run the start script from there
[15:54] <LjL> mmm4m5m: try this:
[15:54] <LjL> mmm4m5m: for file in * ; do echo "Change permissions for $file?"; read -n 1; if [[ "$REPLY" == "y" ]]; then echo "this just just a simulation, but chown would go here and change the file $file"; fi; done
[15:54] <comicinke1> is there a tool which can autoalign my windows on the desktop?
[15:54] <christoz> MoonFrog ok  hold on
[15:54] <MoonFog> /usr/local or just /usr is most likely where you installed it (as long as you're root)
[15:54] <Bacta> http://youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU
[15:54] <bazhang> Bacta: not here thanks
[15:54] <amenado> cerneula-> you have tried any kind of tutorials on creating a web site? please do -- if you have not done so yet
[15:55] <pawan> hi
[15:55] <bazhang> cerneula: will this be the only use for the server? there are other options if that is the case
[15:55] <younes> is this an english channel ?
[15:55] <LjL> younes: yes
[15:55] <cerneula> amenado: I know how to write a web page. My question is how do I access the web pages I have in one computer from the other
[15:56] <bazhang> comicinke1: compiz has a feature like that check the plugins or ask in #compiz-fusion thanks
[15:56] <cerneula> bazahang: like?
[15:56] <freeman163> hmm, i cantseem to record through sound recorder, any idea why it wouldnt recognize my microphone?
[15:56] <pawan> my car
[15:56] <mmm4m5m> LjL: ok, 10x a lot. I got it. I have to think a little more.
[15:56] <Zangetsu> pawan: ?
[15:57] <amenado> cerneula-> if you know how to write a web page,  you have learned i supposed about HTTP GET ? post ?
[15:57] <dassouki> are there any updates on the ubuntu/mobile version, and are there any good alternatives to WM5 for an HP PDA
[15:57] <bazhang> pawan this is the car support channel; try #automotive or some such
[15:57] <bazhang> err not
[15:57] <LjL> mmm4m5m, give me an accurate example of something complicated that you'd like to do. i've got time, i'll write you some example script.
[15:57] <cerneula> amenado: right, but that is not the point
[15:57] <mmm4m5m> LjL: here or private msg?
[15:58] <amenado> cerneula-> what is your point? maybe clarify it a bit more?
[15:58] <trym> anyone? *sniff*
[15:58] <comicinke1> dassouki: yeah, there are some. and more to come. meomo, openmoko e.g.
[15:58] <LjL> mmm4m5m: as you prefer... if it starts looking like a whole novel, maybe PM :)
[15:58] <cerneula> amenado: it is more network related
[15:58] <christoz> MoonFrog the only folder that contains files relative to net beans is /home/christoz/.netbeans
[15:58] <KrisWood> Is there a way to see what info I used previously on useradd to add new users?
[15:58] <bazhang> cerneula: without clearly laying out exactly what you want there is no real way to provide clear answers
[15:58] <LjL> mmm4m5m: anyway, this is a very good resource about bash scripting: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ (includes also primers on sed awk etc)
[15:58] <amenado> cerneula-> then, may i direct you to the basic tutorials of tcp/ip ? basic networking?
[15:58] <sluimers> I have cannot get my USB network to working, can anyone help with this?
[15:59] <LjL> mmm4m5m: and the #bash channel is also a good resource, just make sure you've read the above first, or they'll scold you off ;)
[15:59] <christoz> but cannot  find ant unistall script MoonFrog
[15:59] <sluimers> *to work
[15:59] <christoz> *aby
[15:59] <cerneula> ok, thank you guys, I'm going to try something, MANY THANKS
[15:59] <christoz> *any
[15:59] <amenado> sluimers-> slow down, start from beginning, what do you want done again?
[15:59] <sluimers> I have a USB network adapter
[16:00] <Kynlem> How can I create MySQL /etc/init.d/ scripts?
[16:00] <sluimers> I forgot to add adapter in that sentence
[16:00] <bazhang> sluimers: rtl8187b?
[16:00] <MoonFog> christoz: I'm suggesting you run the netbeans installer again (the bin file), that will give you an uninstall option
[16:00] <sluimers> I plug it in.. nothing happens
[16:00] <sluimers> no WL-182
[16:00] <bazhang> what chipset sluimers
[16:00] <KrisWood> !useradd
[16:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about useradd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:00] <amenado> sluimers-> ubuntu is not a plug n play os ...well not mostly :P
[16:00]  * KrisWood sighs
[16:01] <sluimers> I have no idea, how would I find out?
[16:01] <bazhang> lsusb in the terminal sluimers
[16:01] <sluimers> itś a sitecom
[16:01] <bazhang> sluimers: you need to provide the info from that command thanks
[16:01] <sluimers> it says: Sitecom Europe B.V.
[16:01] <amenado> sluimers-> here is a good link for tutorials on wireless https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[16:02] <sluimers> Bus 005 Device 003: ID 0df6:0017 Sitecom Europe B.V.
[16:02] <ImaginaryFriend> using ubuntu and asking about pidgin - is it possible to open a window with incoming message with a keyboard shortcut instead of clicking a tray icon? ?
[16:02] <bazhang> just waiting til Wubi support is necessary ;]
[16:02] <christoz> MoonFrog ok i've found the script i'm unistalling...
[16:02] <scott__> hi looking fine out why i can't change my start up sound or any other ones  i put sound waves in the same area as the ones that came os
[16:02] <MoonFog> christoz: Alright, that's good
[16:02] <sluimers> thanks amenado
[16:03] <dassouki> comicinke1, i thought openmoko could only run on their devices only
[16:03] <amenado> sluimers-> you are welcome, come back once you read the tutorial -- for clarifications
[16:03] <sluimers> okay
[16:05] <comicinke1> dassouki: or qtopia. I installed openmoko view months ago on my htc magician (just for testing). I could also make phonecalls. openmoko runs on several platforms
[16:05] <bazhang> http://forum.ubuntu-it.org/index.php?topic=148665.msg984151 sluimers if you can read italian it says use ndiswrapper with that dongle
[16:05] <f0rmat> just a quick question: How do you edit a text file in linux
[16:05] <n-iCe> hi
[16:05] <Zelta> Use gedit <file>
[16:05] <f0rmat> ok
[16:05] <f0rmat> thanks
[16:05] <togoella> /whois togoella
[16:05] <Zangetsu> or edit in terminal
[16:05] <f0rmat> i mean in the terminal
[16:05] <f0rmat> ok
[16:06] <sluimers> bazhang, thanks :)
[16:06] <christoz> MoonFrog i think the problem occured cause the java sun vm is not enabled ...when i type javac -version i can see that there is no java -sun but another compiler like  cji
[16:06] <heartsblood> why does the update manager never show the download speed unless sub 300KBps?  It seems once you start downloading updates in the 3-6MBps range it just doesn't want to work
[16:06] <n-iCe> hello question, why could the that my ubuntu sometimes takes a lot to start, or sometimes when I reboot ubuntu doesn't want to open programs, etc
[16:06] <christoz> MonFrog what happened here
[16:06] <christoz> *MoonFrog
[16:07] <sluimers> I already knew that I should use ndiswrapper but don't know how, hopefully that thread helps me out
[16:07] <MoonFog> *Moon *Fog :)
[16:07] <MoonFog> And yes, that could be the problem, I always use the Sun JDK
[16:07] <dassouki> comicinke1, does openmoko provide wifi support?
[16:07] <bazhang> heartsblood: you can file a bug if you think it warrants it
[16:07] <MoonFog> Never had any issues
[16:07] <comicinke1> dassouki: yes
[16:07] <erUSUL> !java | christoz
[16:07] <ubotu> christoz: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[16:07] <heartsblood> Bazhang: that's just it i'm not sure it is a bug.  That and I've never submitted one before :x
[16:08] <comicinke1> dassouki: also some hdspa stuff (not the whole)
[16:08] <MoonFog> christoz: I'm leaving for a while, but if you can't get it to work, feel free to hit me up with a pm and I'll see if I can help you when I get back
[16:08] <f0rmat> if i chmod a dir like this "sudo chmod go-rwx /home/*" how do i make it normal again
[16:08] <n-iCe> hello question, why could the that my ubuntu sometimes takes a lot to start, or sometimes when I reboot ubuntu doesn't want to open programs, etc
[16:08] <erUSUL> christoz: once the sun version is installed you can make it default with sudo update-alteratives --config java
[16:08] <christoz> ok thanks
[16:08] <bazhang> heartsblood: I have no problem seeing greater than 300k/s; perhaps make your terminal window larger?
[16:08] <christoz> erUSL ok
[16:08] <KrisWood> !ubotu find
[16:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about find - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:09]  * KrisWood cries
[16:09] <dassouki> comicinke1, ya i'd like to put on it any flavour of linux, be able to do skype, access the internet, and use some form of an email client. is there even an irc room for mobilinux ?
[16:09] <TheBills> hello
[16:09] <mannex> Does anyone know how to make a short-cut for the "Always on top" option for windows?
[16:09] <erUSUL> f0rmat: if you do not have a backup you can't "undo" the changes you can "sudo chmod go+rwx /home/*" but that's not the same
[16:09] <mannex> \whois mannex
[16:09] <TheBills> you
[16:09] <heartsblood> Bazhang, I assure you that's not it.  As an update starts the download speed will periodically blink in as ~3MBps then unkown and then blink in again as 4MBps and unknown again.  It continues that until the download is done
[16:09] <n-iCe> hello question, why could the that my ubuntu sometimes takes a lot to start, or sometimes when I reboot ubuntu doesn't want to open programs, etc
[16:09] <comicinke1> dassouki: I don't know. try #openmoko
[16:10] <TheBills> maybe a bad distro
[16:10] <erUSUL> mannex: try on system>Preferences>key comb
[16:10] <bazhang> heartsblood: well then file a bug.
[16:10] <dassouki> comicinke1, thanks :D
[16:10] <christoz> erUSL thanks mate
[16:10] <TheBills> ive srewwed up my terminal before and had to reinstall
[16:10] <bazhang> http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu here heartsblood
[16:10] <TheBills> anyone had experience with ubuntu on a laptop?
[16:10] <f0rmat> erUSUL, how do i make it so it is the same permissions as before with 022
[16:11] <bazhang> TheBills: some have yes; is that your real question?
[16:11] <erUSUL> christoz: no problem ;) but try to not mispell my "cool nickname" ;P
[16:11] <TheBills> no lol
[16:11] <amenado> TheBills-> what exactly is the problem? clearly state it please
[16:11] <heartsblood> Bazhang, ty.
[16:11] <TheBills> i cant get my built in card or a new one to work
[16:11] <Quiz_Master> Darn! If I skip disk check in Ubuntu after I cant access ext3 partition in Windows until i do a disk check using Ubuntu
[16:11] <ensi> yay i worked around the problem
[16:12] <n-iCe> hello question, why could the that my ubuntu sometimes takes a lot to start, or sometimes when I reboot ubuntu doesn't want to open programs, etc
[16:12] <erUSUL> f0rmat: i do not understand what you ask. Can you rephrase?
[16:12] <TheBills> my netgear wg111v2 works great but I want something with better reception
[16:12] <amenado> TheBills-> what do you consider better reception? hifi stereo? hehe
[16:12] <TheBills> my built in card is a broadcom so I've all given up on iy
[16:13] <TheBills> no
[16:13] <TheBills> seriuoosly from the router
[16:13] <amenado> TheBills-> ahh the infamoust bcm43xx..am staying away from that
[16:13] <TheBills> lol
[16:13] <KrisWood> ok last try, can anyone help me figure out the useradd command and help me figure out the location of my svn passwd file?
[16:13] <f0rmat> erUSUL, i would like to chmod a single users home dir and allow it to be accesed wheras others are sudo chmod go-rwx /home/otheruser
[16:13] <f0rmat> *accessed by me
[16:13] <TheBills> maybe ill just stick with my dinky netgear USB adapter for now
[16:14] <n-iCe> How do I update my ubuntu to the last version?
[16:14] <TheBills> good ques n_Ice
[16:14] <TheBills> i want to know too
[16:14] <MindSpark> n-iCe, download the latest version and upgrade it
[16:14] <MindSpark> n-iCe, you can always apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade
[16:14] <TheBills> will it save all packages and what not?
[16:15] <debangshu> IDENTIFY qweasd
[16:15] <n-iCe> MindSpark: will that update my ubuntu version? I have done it before I guess
[16:15] <heartsblood> Bazhang, It seems I'm not the only one to have noticed.
[16:15] <MindSpark> n-iCe, this will update packages to the latest in your version
[16:15] <TheBills> mi think he wants the newer version
[16:16] <TheBills> or is there a diff?
[16:16] <MindSpark> n-iCe, if you want an entire latest version, you should download it and install it
[16:17] <TheBills> ubuntu
[16:17] <Quiz_Master> when is Hardy Haron releasing ? Exact date?
[16:17] <irotas> whats the best application for automatically fixing ID3 tags? is there one that uses an online database to determine the info (rather than extracting it from the filename) ?
[16:17] <f0rmat> also how do i save and close "edit" in terminal
[16:17] <Quiz_Master> irotas Picard by Muzik Brainz
[16:17] <n-iCe> Ok, thanks, does anyone use amsn here??
[16:17] <erUSUL> f0rmat: with sudo you can access any file on the system... if you want to be able to access someone else's home dir make a shared group for both users
[16:18] <TheBills> will hardy heron have any wireless compatibilty updates?
[16:18] <TheBills> i use pidgin
[16:18] <TheBills> amsn gave me trouble
[16:18] <irotas> Quiz_Master: thanks!
[16:18] <erUSUL> irotas: i use easytag
[16:18] <f0rmat> erUSUL, i dunno what to change the modes to and really don't wan't to be messing with modes if they fail. thankyou anyway
[16:18] <christoz> erUSUL yes this is a cool nick sorry
[16:19] <ader10> Is it possible to split nautilus windows like terminator or blender?
[16:19] <TheBills> never tried that one
[16:19] <irotas> erUSUL: thanks, i'll check that one out too
[16:19] <erUSUL> christoz: just kidding ;P
[16:19] <TheBills> is there an app to exttraxt .exe files ?
[16:19] <TheBills> i want to use ndiswrapper
[16:20] <KrisWood> Well, thanks anyway everyone
[16:20] <KrisWood> have a good day...
[16:21] <f0rmat> can someone tell me how after edit is issued and the text file is edited in terminal how i would go about saving that file
[16:21] <ader10> TheBills: cabextract I think
[16:21] <ader10> f0rmat: What program did you edit with?
[16:22] <f0rmat> "edit"
[16:22] <f0rmat> in terminal
[16:22] <f0rmat> i typed edit
[16:22] <MindSpark> f0rmat, that is not a text editor
[16:22] <cvd-pr> configure: error: *** GTK+ >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first ***
[16:22] <f0rmat> what is it
[16:22] <f0rmat> :S
[16:22] <MindSpark> f0rmat, man edit
[16:22] <cvd-pr> i vae to download the libgtk-dev?
[16:23] <BIOSboiler> has any tried the new ubuntu 8.0?
[16:23] <BIOSboiler> ?
[16:23] <MindSpark> f0rmat, you will rather want to use vi or emacs from terminal
[16:23] <BIOSboiler> use ne
[16:23] <ader10> BIOSboiler: 8.04 beta, yes, it is stable here
[16:23] <BIOSboiler> its easier than vi
[16:23] <erUSUL> f0rmat: it fires up vi use ":wq" to save and quit
[16:23] <MindSpark> but if you want you could also use a simpler/gui program like kate or gedit
[16:23] <bazhang> BIOSboiler: yes in #ubuntu+1 please
[16:23] <|Dede|> I cannot boot my Ubuntu when I use my Radeon 9500 GT (had to take it out just to install Ubuntu 7.10), I did NOT install any drivers. Can anybody help please?
[16:23] <ader10> f0rmat: I would recommend just using "gedit"
[16:23] <BIOSboiler> use ne instead of vi
[16:23] <MindSpark> f0rmat, gedit <textfile>
[16:23] <BIOSboiler> nice editor
[16:24] <|Dede|> to be exact, it does boot but gnome doesn't start
[16:24] <erUSUL> BIOSboiler: ne is not installed by default
[16:24] <ader10> f0rmat: If you want simplicity, gedit is the way to go. If you need to use the terminal only, nano is the way to go.
[16:24] <MindSpark> BIOSboiler, is that included by default on ubuntu ?
[16:24] <BIOSboiler> oh
[16:24] <cvd-pr> ??
[16:24] <erUSUL> f0rmat: nano is anice console editor that happens to be installed by default
[16:24] <BIOSboiler> sudo apt-get install ne
[16:24] <erUSUL> f0rmat: nano file.txt
[16:24] <MindSpark> f0rmat, the most common text editors are pico, vi and emacs
[16:24] <hosified> detach
[16:24] <MindSpark> vi and emacs are more advanced though
[16:25] <BIOSboiler> so is ubuntu 8.0 cool?
[16:25] <bazhang> !hardy | BIOSboiler
[16:25] <ubotu> BIOSboiler: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[16:25] <Zangetsu> f0rmat: i'd have suggested vi, i used that one
[16:25] <n-iCe> hello question, why could the that my ubuntu sometimes takes a lot to start, or sometimes when I reboot ubuntu doesn't want to open programs, etc
[16:25] <|Dede|> I cannot boot (to  be exact the xserver/gnome does not start) my Ubuntu when I use my Radeon 9500 GT (had to take it out just to install Ubuntu 7.10), I did NOT install any drivers. Can anybody help please?
[16:25] <BIOSboiler> has anyony tried HARDY HERON?
[16:25] <uptownben> Hi all, can someone help me out, I want to compile the ath5k wireless module, I did an apt-get install build-essential, but when I type make.. it says there no "build" directory in my /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-286 directory...
[16:25] <ader10> f0rmat: It's probably confusing having many people say many editors. The best editor is "gedit". The easiest command line editor is "nano"
[16:26] <f0rmat> ok
[16:26] <BIOSboiler> does hardy heron have better support for wireless cards?
[16:26] <f0rmat> thankyou
[16:26] <f0rmat> :D
[16:26] <erUSUL> BIOSboiler: we have directed you to ask in #ubuntu+1
[16:26] <MindSpark> uptownben, maybe you need to run a ./configure first ?
[16:26] <ader10> :)
[16:26] <bazhang> BIOSboiler: can you not read the info: #ubuntu+1 for that
[16:26] <f0rmat> can you tell me how to set a single user account to english while another is dutch ?
[16:26] <bastid_raZor> from apt-get how do i find the version of a package? apt-cache something package?
[16:26] <|Dede|> I cannot boot (to  be exact the xserver/gnome does not start) my Ubuntu when I use my Radeon 9500 GT (had to take it out just to install Ubuntu 7.10), I did NOT install any drivers. Can anybody help please?
[16:26] <michael__> hey if i update to hardy will i have to do everything i di dfor my wireless again ?
[16:26] <Zangetsu> BIOSboiler: isn't #ubuntu+1 for hardy heron and stuff?
[16:26] <MindSpark> f0rmat, what do you mean ? like different languages ?
[16:27] <BIOSboiler> Zangetsu what?
[16:27] <bazhang> michael__: never know best ask in the hardy channel thanks
[16:27] <michael__> ok
[16:27] <f0rmat> i mean so different languages can be set for individual accounts
[16:27] <Zangetsu> biosboiler u asked if anyone has tried !heron
[16:27] <uptownben> MindSpark, there is no configure script for this package.. compat-wireless
[16:27] <ompaul> !hardy | michael__
[16:27] <ubotu> michael__: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[16:27] <BIOSboiler> Zangetsu
[16:27] <BIOSboiler> hi
[16:28] <MindSpark> uptownben, looks like some scripts/files are autogenerated, which are essential for make to run
[16:28] <bazhang> Zangetsu: never mind him--we have linked him five times already
[16:28] <Zangetsu> ohh, okay then
[16:28] <BIOSboiler> i love ubuntu
[16:28] <|Dede|> I cannot boot (to  be exact the xserver/gnome does not start) my Ubuntu when I use my Radeon 9500 GT (had to take it out just to install Ubuntu 7.10), I did NOT install any drivers. im now running on my onboard card. Can anybody help please?
[16:28] <BIOSboiler> fedora sux
[16:28] <BIOSboiler> i hate yum
[16:28] <uptownben> MindSpark, do you think I need to install some other source packages?
[16:28] <Seveas> !language | BIOSboiler
[16:28] <ubotu> BIOSboiler: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[16:28] <MindSpark> uptownben, no. You need to read the installation manual
[16:28] <BIOSboiler> sorry for my language
[16:29] <Zangetsu> watch your tongue
[16:29] <uptownben> MindSpark, read it... it says..  run make ...  and thats about it
[16:29] <Zangetsu> i love these bot commands they are so fun
[16:29] <Daisuke_Ido> BIOSboiler, now, if you want to discuss hardy, type /join #ubuntu+1
[16:29] <Zangetsu> is there a list about the commands?
[16:29] <Seveas> !bot > Zangetsu
[16:29] <n-iCe> hello question, why could the that my ubuntu sometimes takes a lot to start, or sometimes when I reboot ubuntu doesn't want to open programs, etc
[16:29] <MindSpark> uptownben, I suggest you copy the error message and google for it
[16:29] <Zangetsu> geez, thx
[16:30] <loler> how to change the interface of vmware , i`ve switch to some mode that it has disappered the tools for prefiring  the options
[16:30] <MindSpark> uptownben, can you gimme the package name again ?
[16:30] <uptownben> compat-wireless
[16:30] <Daisuke_Ido> success.  sometimes you have to spell out exactly what has to be done
[16:30] <|Dede|> I cannot boot (to  be exact the xserver/gnome does not start) my Ubuntu when I use my Radeon 9500 GT (had to take it out just to install Ubuntu 7.10), I did NOT install any drivers. im now running on my onboard card. Can anybody help please?
[16:30] <gnuskool> g'day
[16:31] <Zangetsu> same
[16:31] <amenado> |Dede|-> not booting at all? errors?
[16:31] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto |Dede| have a look here please
[16:31] <erUSUL> |Dede|: if you can boot to a console (recovery mode) you can try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg'
[16:31] <gnuskool> i want a 'light' wm over my gutsy server install, can i use bb or e17 , or will i need a full-blown desktop environment like gnome,kde or xfce???
[16:31] <erUSUL> |Dede|: and maybe that's sort it
[16:31] <Hammer89> hi... I can't get any context menus by right clicking on my desktop... and my gnome-panel isn't showing any menus or applets... any idea what's wrong?
[16:31] <ader10> Is it possible to split nautilus windows like terminator or blender?
[16:32] <|Dede|> erUSUL: I did not install anything
[16:32] <MindSpark> uptownben, you followed http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Download#Buildingandinstalling ?
[16:32] <erUSUL> gnuskool: you can install any wm you like i guess
[16:32] <|Dede|> I needed to take my card out when installing ubuntu
[16:32] <|Dede|> and now I tried using it, but it does not work
[16:32] <erUSUL> |Dede|: so?
[16:32] <erUSUL> |Dede|: you mean that the livecd doesn't work?
[16:32] <gnuskool> erUSUL: i guess what i mean is, will a wm be enough, to run a system on??
[16:32] <n-iCe> how can I install my webcam?
[16:33] <|Dede|> well, I used my onboard card when installing
[16:33] <|Dede|> so I could install Ubuntu
[16:33] <erUSUL> gnuskool: yes it was for years on linux until the de arrived ( /me and old timer)
[16:33] <|Dede|> it worked with onboard (the livecd)
[16:33] <uptownben> MindSpark, yep...  cd to the compat-wireless-2.6.22... folder and type make
[16:33] <Hammer89> *tries once more* hi... I can't get any context menus by right clicking on my desktop... and my gnome-panel isn't showing any menus or applets... plus I can't open up a terminal... any idea what's wrong?
[16:34] <gnuskool> erUSUL: cheers
[16:34] <erUSUL> |Dede|: well then plug the ati card disable the onboard vga boot in recovery mode and try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg' reboot
[16:34] <Hammer89> nautilus wont load, either, apparently
[16:34] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam please see here and here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras n-iCe
[16:34] <Zangetsu> Hammer89: fresh install, or you did something and it started to happen after on
[16:34] <Zangetsu> ?
[16:34] <Hammer89> Zangetsu: I've been running it for a while now... I don't know what would have caused it... it just started kinda randomly
[16:35] <Zangetsu> Hammer89: so you did everything like your used to, and you didnt do anything unique?
[16:35] <Hammer89> zangetsu: nothing that I recall
[16:35] <bazhang> Hammer89: any odd repos in there?
[16:36] <K-Ton> Greetings, i'm trying to install Beryl. It says I need xrender package. I downloaded it, but during it says X is not found. What sould i do?
[16:36] <amenado> Hammer89-> try running /usr/bin/gnome-control-center  and configure from there?
[16:36] <erUSUL> |beryl | K-Ton
[16:36] <bazhang> K-Ton: compiz-fusion is what you need beryl is gone
[16:36] <n0dl> anyone here install gutsy server on an inspiron 1420? i want to know if it is stable or not
[16:36] <Hammer89> bazhang: I can't check... nothing will load... oddly AWN and Pidgin both started properly (they're set to start when I log in)
[16:36] <erUSUL> !beryl | K-Ton
[16:36] <ubotu> K-Ton: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[16:36] <manju29>  when i run #apt-get install dh-make its saying no installation candidate for dh-make
[16:36] <MindSpark> uptownben, I got it, downloaded it and tried to compile it, but I got include file errors, possibly because I don't have the needed packages
[16:36] <K-Ton> thanks bazhang & erUSUL
[16:36] <manju29> my sources.list is pasted herehttp://pastebin.com/mcde0f12
[16:36] <MindSpark> uptownben, but can you maybe pastebin your output ?
[16:36] <Hammer89> amwnado: I can't run anything
[16:36] <manju29> can any1 help me??
[16:37] <bazhang> Hammer89: this is ubuntu or ubuntu-based? and what other repos do you have in there
[16:37] <Zangetsu> !compiz | Zangetsu
[16:37] <bazhang> Zangetsu: you can /msg ubotu for more convenience
[16:37] <Hammer89> bazhang: I'm using Ubuntu... I don;'t think I have any unusual repos...
[16:37] <sarah____> hey is anyone here good with wine?
[16:37] <amenado> manju29-> maybe there is really no such thing a dh-make package
[16:37] <n-iCe> sarah____:  I use it
[16:38] <MindSpark> sarah____, define good
[16:38] <amenado> i dont handle wine well, i spit it :P
[16:38] <sarah____> n-iCe okay well #winehq seems to be inactive.
[16:38] <uptownben> MindSpark, make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[16:38] <sarah____> well guys, i have to install some math software for my college class, but i get an error
[16:38] <sarah____> wine WeissStats_Intro_8e
[16:38] <sarah____> wine: could not load L"C:\\windows\\system32\\WeissStats_Intro_8e.exe": Module not found
[16:38] <sarah____> im not sure what the problem is... any ideas?
[16:38] <manju29> amenado, so what sources i should include??
[16:39] <n-iCe> sarah____:  go to the terminal, then use cd to go where WeissStats_Intro_8e.exe is, and write:  wine WeissStats_Intro_8e.exe
[16:39] <n-iCe> try it
[16:39] <MindSpark> uptownben, is there a possibility that the output is written into that dir ? try mkdir build inside there and check
[16:39] <Zangetsu> anyway: i just installed this cvscedega (its stuff connected with winex) i started an application and there wasnt any text. i have suspicion about fonts
[16:39] <erUSUL> manju29: it is in the main repo
[16:39] <Zangetsu> any ideas?
[16:39] <amenado> manju29-> maybe there is really no such thing a dh-make package, google for dh-make, dont know what it is for?
[16:39] <sarah____> n-iCe i loaded it from the cd drive
[16:39] <erUSUL> !info dh-make | manju29
[16:39] <ubotu> manju29: dh-make (source: dh-make): tool that converts source archives into Debian package source. In component main, is optional. Version 0.43 (gutsy), package size 33 kB, installed size 336 kB
[16:39] <AC0RNZ> yo guys, im looking for progrram that can like.... rar a huge iso file, but mark it up into like ....  2 areas both 500mb... then wen i click extract on part 1... it will extract part2 also and make the iso again
[16:40] <erUSUL> manju29: so if your sources.list are not totallu busted you should be able to install it
[16:40] <Hammer89> bazhang: I can run firefox still... nautilus and terminal don't work though... odd
[16:40] <chsmrs> hi folks. i was here before, and someone gave me a link, howto set up the fingerprint reader for my HP 8510p. can anybody help me here? i had to reinstall ubuntu
[16:40] <katella> So. Easy problem here, I'm just a nub. I downloaded a graphics driver I'm trying to install (.run file) but I don't know how to install it. double clicking is NOT working. Can someone tell me I'm a nub and how to fix it?
[16:40] <erUSUL> katella: what graphic card?
[16:40] <katella> radeon x1600 pro, 512mb, pci-e
[16:40] <erUSUL> !ati | katella
[16:40] <ubotu> katella: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[16:41] <katella> erUSUL: Much thanks
[16:41] <erUSUL> katella: it is better not to use the run packages but install the drivers form the repos
[16:41] <MindSpark> uptownben, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=300041
[16:41] <sarah____> n-iCe still there?
[16:41] <erUSUL> katella: Go to system>Admin>Restricted Drivers
[16:41] <BrainBug> anyone can help me iam looking for ftp server that supports accessing (rwx) from ntfs partitions
[16:41] <n-iCe> sarah____:  yes, try what I told you
[16:41] <erUSUL> katella: mark your driver and follow instructions...
[16:42] <n-iCe> see if you get the same error
[16:42] <sarah____> i dont get what you mean "cd"
[16:42] <sarah____> type "cd C:\\Windows\\System32\\" ?
[16:42] <erUSUL> sarah____: on a terminal
[16:42] <erUSUL> !shell | sarah____
[16:42] <ubotu> sarah____: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[16:43] <MindSpark> sarah____, is \WeissStats_Intro_8e.exe related to the program you are trying to run ?
[16:43] <sarah____> i am on terminal
[16:43] <sarah____> yes i am trying to run that MindSpark
[16:44] <MindSpark> sarah____, you need to add exe in the end
[16:44] <katella> erusul: hrm. not sure if it's gonna work, but I'll find out soon. XD
[16:44] <MindSpark> .exe actually
[16:44] <amenado> BrainBug-> ntfs partition is mounted on the server side..so the client trying to get/put from that dir does not even know its an ntfs filesystem?
[16:44] <nighty^> anyone knows why Totem displays video with brightness turned down ?
[16:44] <katella> might bbiab. XD
[16:44] <nighty^> I am using 7.10
[16:44] <MindSpark> sarah____, I had a look at your command, you did wine WeissStats_Intro_8e
[16:44] <wers> how do i take a picture of a webpage from top to buttom which takes more space than my screen (i need to scroll down)
[16:44] <MindSpark> while it should be wine \WeissStats_Intro_8e.exe
[16:44] <MindSpark> woops, without the first slash
[16:44] <sarah____> MindSpark i think i forgot the .exe
[16:44] <xfa> sorry need help with my audiosettings, i can't run speakers and headphones seperatly, why?
[16:44] <sarah____> let em try one second
[16:44] <amenado> wers would xwd do it?
[16:44] <bdker> #join #boingboing
[16:44] <MindSpark> ok
[16:45] <wers> xwd?
[16:45] <sarah____> wine WeissStats_Intro_8e.exe
[16:45] <sarah____> wine: could not load L"C:\\windows\\system32\\WeissStats_Intro_8e.exe": Module not found
[16:45] <lcuk> wers, take a picture, scroll down take another picture, rinse repeat.  and then use your gimp editing skills to merge together removing the window frames
[16:45] <Randocal> This isn't quite a Ubuntu question perse.... but i'm wondering if perhaps someone knows the answer anyways. I've got xchat-gnome installed and i have it set to autojoin my servers/channels the way I want, but upon joining a certain channel I need to message a bot and login. How/where might i configure that?
[16:45] <chsmrs> anybody an idea how to get the fingerprint reader working for the gdm logon on a HP 8510p?
[16:45] <wers> lcuk, ooh. gimp is needed. hmm
[16:45] <lcuk> or any other photo editing program you have lying around
[16:46] <wers> i might as well save the html file or something
[16:46] <wers> hehe
[16:46] <sarah____> i tried the new command MindSpark but still got an error
[16:46] <lcuk> that would be best -= make sure you include the images as well ;)
[16:46] <Wanderer> anyone have a problem where a debian stable box can't ssh into an ubuntu gutsy box?
[16:46]  * N3bunel saluta
[16:46] <MindSpark> sarah____, http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-users/2007-January/024279.html
[16:46] <BrainBug> anyone? accessing (rwx) ntfs partitions , what ftp server supports this?
[16:46] <Wanderer> err, not ssh, rsync
[16:46] <wers> i just need to have it printed the way it's shown on my browser for my project
[16:46] <lcuk> or just point the person who needs the view to the actual URL ;)
[16:46] <sarah____> ok i will take a look MindSpark
[16:46] <lcuk> then just print it...
[16:46] <erUSUL> BrainBug: it is not the ftp server who needs to support it is the linux kernel
[16:47] <Wanderer> when I rsync a file from ubuntu to debian, initiated from debian, I get this:
[16:47] <Wanderer> rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (0 bytes received so far) [receiver]
[16:47] <Wanderer> rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(600) [receiver=3.0.0]
[16:47] <christoz> erUSUL hello again i've just downloaded th .bin file from sun but can't "./" it..when i'm doing without sudo it says permission denied ...with sudo it says command no found!!!
[16:47] <BrainBug> erUSUL, well ok and does it exists?
[16:47] <erUSUL> BrainBug: if you set up linux to acces rw a ntfs partition any program including an ftpserver can access it rw
[16:47] <MindSpark> we have national strike day. Lol, the entire country is on strike.
[16:47] <f0rmat> does anyone know how to change individual users language used in terminal as it is dutch and i want to use english
[16:47] <lcuk> then what are you doing working in here
[16:47] <MindSpark> first of it's kind
[16:47] <ader10> Is it possible to split nautilus windows like terminator or blender?
[16:47] <erUSUL> christoz: it is better to install from repos... you have the jdk there
[16:48] <BrainBug> erUSUL, rw ? i know vsftpd can't...
[16:48] <uptownben> What does this mean:
[16:48] <erUSUL> BrainBug: does it exist what?
[16:48] <uptownben> ERROR: Kernel configuration is invalid.
[16:48] <uptownben>          include/linux/autoconf.h or include/config/auto.conf are missing.
[16:48] <uptownben>          Run 'make oldconfig && make prepare' on kernel src to fix it.
[16:48] <FloodBot2> uptownben: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:48] <TheBills> hi
[16:48] <TheBills> cd change directiory
[16:48] <AC0RNZ>  yo guys, im looking for progrram that can like.... rar a huge iso file, but mark it up into like ....  2 areas both 500mb... then wen i click extract on part 1... it will extract part2 also and make the iso again
[16:48] <sarah____> MindSpark that didnt help tried it
[16:48] <sarah____> heh
[16:48] <uptownben> oops
[16:48] <lcuk> AC0RNZ, like use rar like
[16:48] <Exteris> AC0RNZ, rar can do that
[16:49] <MindSpark> sarah____, is the CD mounted correctly ?
[16:49] <lcuk> like you already know...
[16:49] <BrainBug> erUSUL, well ok; i have this pc server i want to install ftp server on, but my media partition is ntfs so i want ppl to be able to browse the ntfs partion - execute - write
[16:49] <AC0RNZ> 0.os
[16:49] <sarah____> yes
[16:49] <sarah____> of course
[16:49] <Randocal> Is there a gui for rar?
[16:49] <AC0RNZ> it can break it up into 2 files?
[16:49] <irotas> stupid question .. in the ubuntu world is there an official "maintainer" for specific software packages? for example, if a package is significantly out of date, who would you contact?
[16:49] <erUSUL> BrainBug: if you can access an ntfs partition rw from command line the any software can. You can be having permisions problems though maybe only root can access the ntfs partition you have to fixs that not the ftp server
[16:49] <AC0RNZ> every time i right click and choose create archive it doesnt give me the choice
[16:49] <MindSpark> sarah____, sometimes, the device might just show in the file manager, without it being mounted
[16:49] <BrainBug> erUSUL, ok
[16:49] <Armedking> http://members.cox.net/iverylm/Vista_Acronym.jpg :D
[16:49] <lcuk> thats because you are using the default gui portion, you will need to use the console or a specific RAR gui
[16:50] <f0rmat> hello does anyone know how to change individual users language used in terminal as it is dutch and i want to use english
[16:50] <sarah____> sigh* i dont know what to do MindSpark
[16:50] <MindSpark> sarah____, ok, type mount from commandline
[16:50] <bazhang> Armedking: please dont post that here
[16:50] <MindSpark> do you see the mountpath and the cdrom device in the output ?
[16:50] <Armedking> bazhang, Sorry couldnt resist ;-)
[16:50] <erUSUL> !ntfs | BrainBug
[16:50] <ubotu> BrainBug: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[16:51] <sarah____> yes i do
[16:51] <MindSpark> sarah____, and where is the cdrom mounted ?
[16:51] <mario> hola
[16:51] <mario> hello
[16:51] <|Dede|> I cannot run my Ubuntu (the xserver/gnome does not start) when I use my Radeon 9500 GT (had to take it out just to install Ubuntu 7.10), I did NOT install any drivers. im now running on my onboard card. Can anybody help please?
[16:51] <sarah____> on /media/cdrom0
[16:51] <lcuk> Armedking, it wasnt even that good - vista is surprisingly free of viruses etc - it takes so long to copy them across the network they cant spread
[16:51] <MindSpark> sarah____, ok, now cd /media/cdrom0
[16:51] <erUSUL> f0rmat: export the apropiate LANG variable (LANG=de_DE.utf-8 ??)
[16:51] <uptownben> dang it! I cant get my atheros ar5007eg wifi to work on ubuntu!!
[16:51] <f0rmat> :S
[16:51] <MindSpark> type "cd /media/cdrom0
[16:51] <sarah____> ok
[16:52] <sarah____> done now i did "ls"
[16:52] <BrainBug> erUSUL, thats not the problem, i did that with ntfs-3g , but i wanted to make shure it works , cause i read that vsftpd couldnt work with ntfs said some guy but ok , ill give it a try :D
[16:52] <erUSUL> f0rmat: export the apropiate LANG variable (LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 ??)
[16:52] <sarah____> and i see the files for the weissStats_Intro_8e cd
[16:52] <MindSpark> sarah____, ok, is the file you want to run in the listing ?
[16:52] <f0rmat> erUSUL, how do i do that through terminal
[16:52] <sarah____> yes
[16:52] <bazhang> uptownben: that is the same on the eeepc; they have a channel and a wiki on how to get it going on ubuntu
[16:52] <sarah____> so wine weissStats_Intro_8e.exe
[16:52] <erUSUL> f0rmat: export LANG=whatever
[16:52] <MindSpark> sarah____, yes
[16:52] <MindSpark> if that doesn't work still, try "wine ./weissStats_Intro_8e.exe"
[16:53] <erUSUL> f0rmat: if you want it to be permanent you have to put in on ~/.bashrc or ./profile
[16:53] <f0rmat> erUSUL, and that only works for individual accounts yes?
[16:53] <Hammer89> what would I need to apt-get in order to reinstall the base programs that come with ubuntu? (like... the system monitor... terminal... etc)
[16:53] <mario> hola
[16:53] <dennda> Which problems are there when using 64-bit versions instead of 32-bit?
[16:53] <erUSUL> f0rmat: if you want the change to be system wide edit /etc/environment or use System>Admin>Language support
[16:53] <sarah____> MindSpark: ":/media/cdrom0$ wine weissStats_Intro_8e.exe
[16:53] <sarah____> wine: could not load L"C:\\windows\\system32\\weissStats_Intro_8e.exe": Module not found
[16:53] <sarah____> "
[16:53] <dennda> (At the moment. It's been some time since I last checked)
[16:54] <nighty^> anyone knows why Totem displays video with brightness turned down overriding settings in Rhythmbox ?
[16:54] <erUSUL> Hammer89: install ubuntu-desktop ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-* etc
[16:54] <f0rmat> erUSUL, no i wan't it only for individual users
[16:54] <MindSpark> sarah____, did you try ./ before weissStats_Intro_8e.exe ?
[16:54] <Hammer89> erUSUL: thanks
[16:54] <sarah____> MindSpark you mean wine /weisStats_Intro_8eexe?
[16:54] <sarah____> MindSpark you mean wine /weisStats_Intro_8e.exe" ?
[16:54] <MindSpark> sarah____, ./ not /
[16:54] <MindSpark> ./weissStats_Intro_8e.exe
[16:54] <sarah____> oh ok
[16:54] <bgdev> how well does kde 4 run under VMWare? I'd like to try it out but was worried the generic video on VMWare wouldnt do the eye candy justice
[16:54] <MindSpark> wine ./weissStats_Intro_8e.exe
[16:54] <sarah____> let em try
[16:54] <Bad_boy_> have just installed wine, but I do not have a windows partition, anymore, but i have windows *.exe. Do i need a windows partition to run wine. I am newbie
[16:54] <MindSpark> ok
[16:54] <robdeman> hi all -- how do I generate .srt files on Ubuntu? Im trying it throug dvd::rip but that gives vobsub.. I want text based .srt files - not bitmaps
[16:55] <sarah____> wine: cannot find './weissStats_Intro_8e.exe'
[16:55] <MindSpark> Bad_boy, no you don't , you just need a windows program to run .
[16:55] <nighty^> noise
[16:55] <simplexio> Bad_boy_: google, and wine ping.exe works
[16:55] <MindSpark> sarah____, you know that the file is case sensitive, right ?
[16:55] <Bad_boy_> cheers chaps
[16:55] <sarah____> i think so
[16:55] <MindSpark> sarah____, can you do an ls and send it to me via private ?
[16:56] <sarah____> one sec
[16:56] <MindSpark> ok
[16:56] <f0rmat> erUSUL, ok so if i wanted english GB export LANG=??????
[16:57] <sarah____> ok MindSpark i sent a pm
[16:57] <MindSpark> sarah____, didn't get anything, can you please send again ?
[16:57] <katella> Hazaa! I have returned!
[16:58] <jacob_> quick question i installed the nvidia drivers using envy then did a bunch of updates including a kernal update, my question is is do you have to reinstall the drivers after each kernal patch/update
[16:58] <erUSUL> f0rmat: en_GB.UTF-8 ?? check in google (i use es_ES spanish ;P)
[16:58] <erUSUL> MindSpark: only registered users can pm
[16:58] <bazhang> jacob_: envy. uh oh.
[16:58] <erUSUL> jacob_: yes
[16:58] <f0rmat> erUSUL, thanks
[16:58] <MindSpark> erUSUL, I am getting her pm's now :) thanks
[16:58] <jacob_> ok
[16:58] <TitoN> hi i wanna boot win xp under xubuntu but i dont know if i need to use vmware server or vmware player
[16:59] <f0rmat> erUSUL, oh it works :D
[16:59] <f0rmat> thankyou
[16:59] <katella> erusul: So anyways. I put my new vid card in, started er up, it auto installed the restricted drivers, but then when ubuntu started instead of seeing the login/password screen, I saw nothing.
[16:59] <erUSUL> f0rmat: no problem
[16:59] <f0rmat> do i put export LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 into .bashrc
[16:59] <jacob_> thanks i heard that some where and i was a having a problem installing the driver myself and everytime i rebooted i had to reinstall
[16:59] <erUSUL> f0rmat: if you want it to be permanent yes
[16:59] <f0rmat> ok
[16:59] <f0rmat> thanks
[16:59] <f0rmat> :D
[17:00] <jacob_> thanks every one!!!
[17:00] <is_null> hello everybody, what's the best way to get ubuntu on a /boot that has 8M?
[17:00] <Danb1234> hi i am having a problem with the install of ubuntu 7.10 on my laptop any ideas
[17:00] <erUSUL> katella: maybe it is just bad resolution??  heard that adding vga=auto to the grub boot line helps on that cases...
[17:00] <is_null> boot from live and compile a kernel without initrd? or is there something light avalaible with apt-get?
[17:01] <erUSUL> !boot | katella
[17:01] <ubotu> katella: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[17:01] <katella> erusul: def a possibility. being a ubuntu noob, just restart, hit the grub line, type that once and not worry about it again
[17:01] <katella> ?
[17:01] <erUSUL> katella: no if you want that to be permanent you have to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[17:01] <katella> there's one of those for EVERYTHING!
[17:02] <erUSUL> katella: you can do that from recovery mode
[17:02] <robdeman> anybody? Vobsub to SRT? (Or straight DVD-to-.srt) subtitle generation?
[17:02] <erUSUL> katella: well we have been collecting/adding/editing them for years now ;)
[17:03] <katella> erusul: I just threw my old card back in. I can change it. 8) so just add vga = auto anywhere in here?
[17:03] <SpookyET> sshfs seems slow
[17:05] <Danb1234> ive previously tried using vga=771 and had no luck as soon as i choose the install option my screen just goes black
[17:05] <LetsGo67> How do you play an HDCD in Ubuntu?
[17:05] <Danb1234> u think using vga=auto will work?
[17:05] <katella> erusul does dan! Imma try it and might let ya know in a sec
[17:05] <erUSUL> katella: at the end of the kernel line after "splash quiet"
[17:05] <Skitt> Danb1234: which resolution do you need?
[17:06] <TitoN> what to use vmware server or vmware player?
[17:06] <seeker> Hi ! sorry for my bad english, but anybody knows how to install a new network card with KVM (Kernel Virtual Machine) ?
[17:07] <dobby> hey does one of you guys tried paralles?
[17:07] <Danb1234> umm under windows i use 1440 by 900
[17:07] <erUSUL> seeker: you want the kvm machine to have more than one emulated card??
[17:08] <Danb1234> i tried selecting this in the install but it didnt make a diffrence
[17:08] <seeker> yes erUSUL, i want the virtual machine have 2 or 3 card
[17:08] <TitoN> or do i need vmware server to create the viritual machine and then use player to use it?
[17:08] <bazhang> TitoN: try the server package
[17:08] <katella> erusul: hrm. it's not letting me save it. bah
[17:08] <erUSUL> seeker: kvm is a fork of qemu so the command line sitches you will use with one you can use in the other
[17:08] <LetsGo67> How do you play an HDCD in Ubuntu?
[17:08] <TitoN> bazhang k is there a big difference with them
[17:09] <erUSUL> katella: use "sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[17:09] <bazhang> TitoN: never used player; server does what you want though
[17:09] <bazhang> LetsGo67: you mean a hd-dvd? that is a hardware req or do you mean a ripped HD file
[17:10] <TitoN> k bazhang i'll try it
[17:10] <xrhstaraspatra> HELP WITH LEXMARK
[17:10] <TitoN> thx
[17:10] <bazhang> caps xrhstaraspatra
[17:10] <seeker> hum sorry, what is sitches ? ^^ i'm french and i dont understand this word
[17:10] <LetsGo67> bazhang: no, a high definition compact disc (music)
[17:10] <LetsGo67> xrhstaraspatra: lexmark is a pain, I tried drivers, only works with old linux.  I understand though.
[17:10] <bazhang> LetsGo67: you want to rip it? please clarify
[17:11] <katella> erusul: One of these days I'll have to learn all this
[17:11] <katella> erusul: if I'm not back, it's a good thing. XD
[17:11] <erUSUL> seeker: command line options
[17:11] <bazhang> seeker: situations
[17:11] <boebi> I installed Ubuntu but without GRUB because it was giving errors. So I have ubuntu on my partition, but I cant boot it. Is there a way to install GRUB now, or any other way to get Ubuntu into my bootloader?
[17:11] <lcuk> lol @ chinese whispers
[17:11] <LetsGo67> bazhang: yes, it has two modes: normal CD and high definition.  How do I play high definition?  What is the difference?  Do I need a sound card or expensive speakers?
[17:11] <seeker> thanx :p
[17:11] <manju29> erUSUL, did u check my sources.list??i pasted http://pastebin.com/mcde0f12
[17:11] <bertvdp> is it me or are there no processor overclocking programs in main, universe and multiverse ?
[17:12] <TitoN> bazhang can you run the apps without logging in windows just like wine
[17:12] <TitoN> or do u have to have a server running
[17:12] <lcuk> bertvdp, you cannot over clock the universe, we would all fall off
[17:12] <manju29> erUSUL, can u tell me y i got no installation candidate for dh-make???
[17:12] <erUSUL> manju29: that seems sources for debain not ubuntu....
[17:12] <bazhang> LetsGo67: not really sure about that; you might repeat here every so often and see if others know
[17:12] <ader10> Is it possible to split nautilus windows like terminator or blender?
[17:12] <LetsGo67> Thanks man.
[17:12] <bertvdp> lcuk: overclock my processor with programmes aut of the universe repository
[17:13] <erUSUL> manju29: i do not know in what repo dh-make is in debian... can not help you further ask in debian
[17:13] <bazhang> TitoN: need the server and windows running both
[17:13] <bertvdp> *out
[17:13] <erUSUL> manju29: i do not know in what repo dh-make is in debian... can not help you further ask in #debian
[17:13] <TitoN> k thx
[17:13] <lcuk> phew! i thought you wanted to make us spin faster
[17:13] <manju29> k thanks erUSUL !!
[17:13] <bertvdp> lcuk: lol :P
[17:13] <boebi> I installed Ubuntu but without GRUB because it was giving errors. So I have ubuntu on my partition, but I cant boot it. Is there a way to install GRUB now, or any other way to get Ubuntu into my bootloader?
[17:13] <xrhstaraspatra> help with lexmark
[17:13] <erUSUL> !grub | boebi
[17:13] <ubotu> boebi: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[17:13] <xrhstaraspatra> in 64bit ubuntu
[17:13] <erUSUL> boebi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[17:13] <boebi> thanks uboto
[17:14] <boebi> and erusul
[17:14] <lcuk> xrhstaraspatra, please describe your problem a little better and people might be able to help
[17:14] <lcuk> ...
[17:14]  * lcuk must learn to type quicker
[17:14] <bazhang> boebi: he's a bot ;]
[17:14] <uptownben> my make command says I'm missing .config ?
[17:14] <XLV> bazhang, bots need love too
[17:15] <stefg> !botsanck
[17:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botsanck - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:15] <redtide> hello everyone.....i'm a complete newbie, and yet I have to do something i believe is rather advanced. can anyone here help me instal this? http://alsa-project.org/main/index.php/User:ClemensLadisch#2008-03-31
[17:15] <stefg> !botsnack
[17:15] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[17:15] <bazhang> redtide: have you asked in #alsa ?
[17:15] <uptownben> I need to set my system up to compile modules... what do I need besides build-essential?
[17:15] <erUSUL> uptownben: 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[17:16] <stefg> uptownben: usually the kernel source
[17:16] <donkeyofdarkness> orly?
[17:16] <redtide> hrm no i have not, i might have however, if  i had known about the channel
[17:16] <stefg> uptownben: or at lest the headers
[17:16] <style23> I want to set the focus policy to "focus follows mouse". Where can I find that setting?
[17:17] <erUSUL> style23: are you using compiz or default metacity?
[17:17] <style23> erusul: compiz
[17:17] <erUSUL> style23: then i guess that you will have to use ccsm...
[17:17] <DeadLy_sp> hello
[17:17] <erUSUL> |ccsm | style23
[17:17] <erUSUL> !ccsm | style23
[17:17] <ubotu> style23: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[17:18] <DeadLy_sp> help, i need rotate a openoffice document , it's posible?
[17:18] <ompaul> DeadLy_sp, to what?
[17:18] <ompaul> DeadLy_sp, you could do format page landscape is that what you want?
[17:18] <DeadLy_sp> ompaul: rotate document
[17:18] <DeadLy_sp> excel
[17:18] <DeadLy_sp> ompaul: yes!
[17:19] <erUSUL> style23: on ccsm in the general settings the focus tab
[17:19] <ompaul> DeadLy_sp, convert - you can do - save as and change the type to xls
[17:19] <computer13137> Hi
[17:19] <computer13137> I have a very simple question that I think you guys should be able to answer.
[17:19] <DeadLy_sp> ok ompaul, thanks !!!!!!!
[17:19] <style23> ersul: where do I download ccsm
[17:19] <computer13137> Ubuntu 7.10 x64, how many CPU cores does it have support for, and what is the RAM limit?
[17:19] <ompaul> DeadLy_sp, your welcome
[17:19] <style23> ersul: I see it
[17:20] <erUSUL> style23: Synaptic
[17:20] <style23> ersul: giong to download now. thanks
[17:20] <computer13137> Ubuntu will be able to support 16GB of Ram right?
[17:21] <Joth> I can't connect to the new wireless network (it's an Airport Extreme network) - it's detected, but I can't connect. Can anyone please help?
[17:21] <erUSUL> computer13137: C
[17:22] <computer13137> That's a yes I suppose? :P
[17:22] <computer13137> How about CPU cores?
[17:22] <computer13137> Does it have support for multiple CPUs?
[17:22] <niko_> in amarok, the "building collection database..." will not go away. how do i correct this
[17:22] <erUSUL> computer13137: COnFIG_NR_CPU=8 in generic
[17:22] <erUSUL> computer13137: but you can install the server kernel ...
[17:22] <computer13137> So can it accomodate two quad core Xeons?
[17:22] <computer13137> :P
[17:23] <cvd-pr> can someone can look at this and tell me what is the problem  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6522/
[17:23] <erUSUL> computer13137: that's with the generic desktop oriented kernel i'm sure th linux-image-server kernel supports a lot more than 8 cores
[17:23] <soundray> computer13137: yes, the default Ubuntu kernel supports 8 cores and 16GB RAM
[17:24] <computer13137> erUSUL: All I plan to run is the two quad cores.
[17:24] <computer13137> So that will run OK on either kernel right?
[17:24] <erUSUL> computer13137: there are 1024 core machines running a single linux kernel out there XD
[17:24] <computer13137> :P
[17:24] <erUSUL> computer13137: yep
[17:24] <ir4> I need some help with wireless card drivers! can someone please help me?
[17:24] <style23> ersul when you install ccsm how do you get to the settings?
[17:24] <computer13137> Nice... so now that the software end is out of the way, I have to decide whether or not to spend $1800 on hardware. :P
[17:24] <soundray> !wifi | ir4, have a look at the help pages, then ask specifically
[17:24] <ubotu> ir4, have a look at the help pages, then ask specifically: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[17:24] <CoasterMaster> Does the flex package put the required libraries to compile flex code in /usr/lib?
[17:24] <Daisil> erusul: This is katella on the computer that's working. vga=auto unfortunately didn't work
[17:25] <style23> ersul I see it
[17:25] <computer13137> Thanks erUSUL. :P
[17:25] <Daisil> daisil !radeon
[17:25] <erUSUL> Daisil: :|
[17:25] <Daisil> was worth a try. lol
[17:25] <noamsml> Hey, I'm having a few problems with my keyboard on Ubuntu Hardy
[17:25] <noamsml> Repeat keys don't work
[17:25] <soundray> noamsml: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[17:25] <niko_> in amarok, the "building collection database..." will not go away. how do i correct this
[17:25] <noamsml> OK, thanks
[17:25] <erUSUL> Daisil: yep the radeon driver may work better than the propietary fglrx...
[17:25] <niko_> sorry to be annoying
[17:26] <ir4> can someone help me with the ndiswrapper tool?
[17:26] <Daisil> erusul: is there a way to disable the restricted driver before ubuntu starts up?
[17:26] <ir4> can someone help me with the ndiswrapper tool?
[17:26] <Daisil> erusul: and how do you install a .run file? lol
[17:27] <erUSUL> Daisil: nope... boot in recovery mode and run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg' choose the radeon driver
[17:27] <soundray> ir4: did you look at the link that ubotu sent?
[17:27] <Daisil> erusul: recovery mode? 8)
[17:27] <niko_> in grub
[17:27] <sarah____> hey guys, is it possible to partition my harddrive for windows?
[17:27] <erUSUL> Daisil: if you really want to do it... «chmod +x file.run && sudo ./file.run»
[17:27] <Daisil> kk'
[17:27] <soundray> cvd-pr: just curious -- why compile xmms, rather than installing from the repos?
[17:27] <sarah____> currently i have ubuntu gusty, but i need to add windows to run some software
[17:28] <sarah____> can i partition it?
[17:28] <Zangetsu> sarah: you mean you want to format it with ntfs?
[17:28] <ir4> hey soundray can u personal message me?
[17:28] <Zangetsu> i mean the partitions
[17:28] <n-iCe> any software to watch .wmv videos?
[17:28] <briareos90> KDE is stalling on video playback ... but if i play the same files in gnome , theres no problem .. anyone knows how to fix this ?
[17:28] <soundray> !pm | ir4
[17:28] <ubotu> ir4: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[17:28] <n-iCe> and more formats?
[17:28] <niko_> put in a windows disk and boot from it and do it there
[17:28] <noamsml> n-iCe: Try mplayer
[17:28] <f0rmat> i still can't add users
[17:28] <n-iCe> noamsml:  thanks
[17:28] <sarah____> Zangetsu i think so, i just need to set aside some of my harddrive to load windows
[17:28] <f0rmat> :(
[17:28] <noamsml> n-iCe: You can find it in the medibuntu repos
[17:28] <noamsml> It's not in the official repos for legal reasons
[17:28] <soundray> sarah____: have you tried to run your software with wine? Might be easier than re-partitioning a hard disk that's already set up for Ubuntu...
[17:29] <cvd-pr> soundray,  im using heron , xmms was dropped, and its the only player thah a like, you know wht was the problem ere?
[17:29] <n-iCe> noamsml:  I am installing it
[17:29] <PaRaSiTe> Does 7.10 support nVidia 8800GT?
[17:29] <sarah____> yes soundray it wont run with wine
[17:29] <soundray> sarah____: ah, too bad.
[17:29] <ir4> can someone please help me with wireless card driver!!
[17:29] <niko_> yes it supports 8800's. in amarok, the "building collection database..." will not go away. how do i correct this
[17:29] <sarah____> i know i will miss my ubuntu! :(
[17:29] <f0rmat> can anyone please tell me how i can make it so i can make users through user settings in system/Administration again
[17:29] <sarah____> such a sad day
[17:30] <f0rmat> anyone
[17:30] <soundray> cvd-pr: you might be able to install the gutsy deb package. Have you looked at audacious?
[17:30] <ir4> i need some help installing a wireless card driver
[17:30] <niko_> what do you need to do format?
[17:30] <erUSUL> ir4: first tell us which wifi card chip do you have
[17:30] <soundray> !dualboot | sarah____, have you seen this help
[17:30] <ubotu> sarah____, have you seen this help: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[17:30] <ir4> i have the
[17:30] <f0rmat> please tell me how i can make it so i can make users through user settings in system/Administration again
[17:30] <cvd-pr> soulrider, dont like audacious, for some reasons
[17:30] <ir4> Intel PRO/Wirless 3945 card
[17:30] <f0rmat> it just won't add one
[17:30] <f0rmat> and there arent any errors
[17:30] <f0rmat> :S
[17:30] <donkeyofdarkness> !windows
[17:30] <ubotu> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[17:30] <cvd-pr> soundray, , dont like audacious, for some reasons
[17:31] <niko_> lemme look
[17:31] <erUSUL> ir4: those cards already have drivers... can you paste the output of "iwconfig" on pastebin?
[17:31] <erUSUL> !pastebin | ir4
[17:31] <|Dede|> I need a tool to make videos of my Desktop, any ideas?
[17:31] <ubotu> ir4: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[17:31] <soundray> cvd-pr: well, try downloading the xmms package from http://archive.ubuntu.com and install it with 'sudo dpkg -i xmms*.deb'
[17:31] <ir4> but i looked on the website and it says the card is not supported and that i need to install the drive
[17:31] <ir4> but ill show u
[17:32] <PaRaSiTe> Are there any decent download managers on Ubuntu, like Free Download Manager on Windows?
[17:32] <niko_> use istanbul to make videos of your desktop
[17:32] <erUSUL> PaRaSiTe: d4x ?
[17:32] <Survivorman> |Dede|, recordmydesktop
[17:32] <niko_> it's in the repos
[17:32] <PaRaSiTe> I can't decide whether to go to Ubuntu or not. :-/
[17:32] <popey> !screencast | |Dede|
[17:32] <ubotu> |Dede|: Some programs to capture your screen are recordmydesktop, Istanbul, Wink, Gvidcap, Xvidcap, vnc2swf, demorecorder.  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts.
[17:33] <bazhang> ir4: that is the single best supported card in linux/ubuntu; be happy you have that and not a broadcom
[17:33] <erUSUL> PaRaSiTe: i personally use download them all from within firefox
[17:33] <ir4> well how come i cannot connect to the wireless?
[17:33] <ir4> it wont let me connect
[17:33] <ir4> it just sits there
[17:33] <PaRaSiTe> erUSUL: That's not a proper download manager though is it?  Just a download helper extension, like FlashGot.
[17:33] <soundray> PaRaSiTe: have you tried the live CD? No permanent changes required while you're testing.
[17:33] <bazhang> ir4: what does ifconfig say? eth0 lo and a third entry? or only those two
[17:34] <erUSUL> bazhang: well the best supported is the intel 2200 imho (it is older so better supported) ;P but yes intel is topo noch on linux drivers support
[17:34] <bazhang> erUSUL: good point ;]
[17:34] <niko_> f0rmat: system>administration>users and groups
[17:34] <f0rmat> it doesn't work
[17:34] <niko_> what happens?
[17:34] <n-iCe> noamsml:  how do I set it as default
[17:34] <n-iCe> for videos ?
[17:35] <f0rmat> nicko, there is a group by the name of the user and so i have to delete the group before adding the  user
[17:35] <f0rmat> niko, there is a group by the name of the user and so i have to delete the group before adding the  user
[17:35] <ir4> eth says
[17:35] <ir4> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:E0:B8:EB:99:12
[17:35] <ir4>           inet addr:192.168.1.103  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[17:35] <ir4>           inet6 addr: fe80::2e0:b8ff:feeb:9912/64 Scope:Link
[17:35] <ir4>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[17:35] <ir4>           RX packets:18890 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[17:35] <ir4>           TX packets:16572 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[17:35] <ir4>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[17:35] <ir4>           RX bytes:11455176 (10.9 MiB)  TX bytes:1730633 (1.6 MiB)
[17:35] <Daisil> erusul: I think I messed that monster command up. sudo dpkg -reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg?
[17:35] <ir4>           Interrupt:17
[17:35] <PaRaSiTe> soundray: Where do I get the Live CD?
[17:36] <bazhang> ir4: pastebin not here!
[17:36] <erUSUL> Daisil: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg' you put an extra spc :)
[17:36] <PaRaSiTe> And
[17:36] <soundray> Daisil: dpkg-reconfigure (no space within)
[17:36] <PaRaSiTe> I sorta know if I want to or not.
[17:36] <PaRaSiTe> But...
[17:36] <Daisil> will try again. 8)
[17:36] <PaRaSiTe> I dunno
[17:36] <niko_> sorry, i'm not sure what the problem is and i don't have much experience with it
[17:36] <ir4> whats pastebin
[17:36] <niko_> sorry
[17:36] <n-iCe> how do I set a player as default???
[17:36] <PaRaSiTe> I just worry about losing half the programs I lose.
[17:36] <PaRaSiTe> And dont want to WINE them all.
[17:36] <soundray> !download | PaRaSiTe
[17:36] <ubotu> PaRaSiTe: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive - PLEASE use the !torrents to download Gutsy, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[17:36] <ir4> i just got ubuntu yesterday
[17:36] <niko_> try asking on the ubuntuforums
[17:36] <soundray> PaRaSiTe: the Desktop CD at these download sites ^^ are live ones.
[17:37] <Daisil> erusul: is there a way to just load ubuntu from here?
[17:37] <bazhang> ir4: just say three entries or two for ifconfig: (2/3) dont paste here just say 2 or 3
[17:37] <ir4> 2
[17:37] <soundray> PaRaSiTe: you can dual boot...
[17:37] <ir4> no
[17:37] <PaRaSiTe> I have dial up.
[17:37] <ir4> hold on
[17:37] <PaRaSiTe> No downloads.
[17:37] <ir4> i hav
[17:37] <Stroganoff> whats the bash command to find out which distro i'm using?
[17:37] <Survivorman> n-iCe, right click on file, select properties, then go to opens with
[17:37] <PaRaSiTe> soundray: I nearly certainly will dualboot.
[17:37] <PaRaSiTe> For games at least.
[17:37] <soundray> !version | Stroganoff
[17:37] <ubotu> Stroganoff: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[17:37] <erUSUL> Daisil: sudo telinit 2
[17:37] <stefg> !shipit | PaRaSiTe
[17:37] <ubotu> PaRaSiTe: shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will send Gutsy (7.10) CDs
[17:38] <PaRaSiTe> Just tihngs like Blender
[17:38] <ir4> eth 0 , lo, eth1, eth1:avah
[17:38] <PaRaSiTe> And also, I'm tempted to go all opensource, like Open Office...
[17:38] <PaRaSiTe> But...compared to Office 07 it's not great, but it's free and legal
[17:38] <niko_> in amarok, the "building collection database..." will not go away. how do i correct this
[17:38] <bazhang> ir4: do you have the restricted modules installed? you can search for them in synaptic
[17:38] <soundray> PaRaSiTe: we're moving off the support topic. Maybe you will find more decision support in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:38] <|Dede|> I need a tool to make videos of my Desktop and which uses a GUI
[17:39] <amenado> niko_-> am not familiar with amarok, can you visit their website and look around for the options when launching it?
[17:39] <ir4> how do i use synaptic
[17:39] <bazhang> or join #amarok
[17:40] <Survivorman> niko_, it just started doing that to me too... did you add anything to your collection. I did and it went away.
[17:40] <ir4> when i go to the restricted drivers thing under system, my wireless card is on the list, but it says enabled and in-use
[17:40] <niko_> i've looked quite a bit and tried things that have worked for others. i believe they have a irc channel
[17:40] <niko_> okay, i will try that
[17:40] <|Dede|> I need a tool to make videos of my Desktop and which uses a GUI
[17:40] <soundray> !repeat | |Dede|
[17:40] <ubotu> |Dede|: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[17:41] <Survivorman> |Dede|, we gave you a list already.
[17:41] <bazhang> !info gtk-recordmydesktop
[17:41] <ubotu> gtk-recordmydesktop (source: gtk-recordmydesktop): Graphical frontend for recordmydesktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.4-1 (gutsy), package size 59 kB, installed size 448 kB
[17:41] <Daisil> erusul: how do I run a .run driver file that I got right off the radeon website?
[17:41] <|Dede|> those are command line tools?
[17:41] <Survivorman> !screencast | |Dede|
[17:41] <ubotu> |Dede|: Some programs to capture your screen are recordmydesktop, Istanbul, Wink, Gvidcap, Xvidcap, vnc2swf, demorecorder.  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts.
[17:41] <|Dede|> Do you have any suggestions for GUI screencasters?
[17:41] <f0rmat> i would also like to know whether there is a program for ubuntu that will allow me to see comands used by another user on my system via ssh
[17:41] <bazhang> |Dede|: gtk-recordmydesktop is the package you want
[17:41] <f0rmat> :S
[17:41] <erUSUL> Daisil: if you *really* want to do it... «chmod +x file.run && sudo ./file.run»
[17:41] <PaRaSiTe> Btw, Ubuntu or Kubuntu/GNOME or KDE?
[17:42] <Survivorman> |Dede|, recordmydesktop is gui
[17:42] <|Dede|> thanks bazhang
[17:42] <PaRaSiTe> What are the advantages/disadvatanges of each?
[17:42] <erUSUL> Daisil: but it is dangerous and unsupported
[17:42] <Daisil> erusul: not suggested?
[17:42] <Hellow> Wasent Istanbul a old english city?
[17:42] <soundray> !kubuntu | PaRaSiTe
[17:42] <ubotu> PaRaSiTe: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[17:42] <Daisil> erusul: gotcha
[17:42] <popey> Hellow: no Turkish!
[17:42] <Hellow> O lol
[17:42] <bazhang> !ot | Hellow
[17:42] <ubotu> Hellow: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[17:42] <f0rmat> i would also like to know whether there is a program for ubuntu that will allow me to see comands used by another user on my system via ssh
[17:42] <Mikkel`> Hi ... I trying and install HLDS to This Linux Server .. and i has try and retry this HLDS .. and Now can i not install this cstrike from HLDS .. "Cannot open output file 'LinuxHldsUpdateTool_27.pkg'
[17:42] <Exteris> f0rmat, screen
[17:42] <popey> f0rmat: screen -x
[17:43] <f0rmat> There is no screen to be attached.
[17:43] <Exteris> f0rmat, they need to start a screen first
[17:43] <Mirv> is someone succesfully using f-spot to display images? the image displaying is so slow it is rather useless for browsing eg. 12MP images from a camera...
[17:43] <soundray> !screen | f0rmat
[17:43] <ubotu> f0rmat: screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[17:43] <michael__> i never realized ubuntu had so many great games in the package manager including frets on fire damn ubuntu kicks windows a$$
[17:43] <popey> f0rmat: you can poke in their bash history :)
[17:44] <Mirv> I wonder how it's proposed as being "the" photo viewing application with the performance it has/lacks
[17:44] <bazhang> ir4 open up synaptic package manager and search for restricted and make sure the restricted modules for your kernel are installed
[17:44] <bazhang> language michael__
[17:44] <erUSUL> Mirv: you can use gthumb or gqview
[17:44] <soundray> Mirv: you're welcome to ask support questions, but if you just want to sound off, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[17:45] <Mirv> erUSUL: yes, I just wonder if there's some magic trick lurking somewhere
[17:45] <f0rmat> how do i list screens
[17:45] <f0rmat> ?
[17:45] <soundray> Mirv: you might consider the possibility that it's not F-Spot, but your card/connection is the bottleneck
[17:45] <f0rmat> all i keep doing is seeing my own
[17:46] <erUSUL> Mirv: f-spot is meant to be like picasa a cataloging app (and it is written in mono) if you want raw speed and manage huge photos use another program
[17:46] <soundray> f0rmat: please take some time to familiarize yourself with screen, following the links that Ubotu gave you. GNU Screen is a rather complex tool
[17:46] <Mirv> soundray: the machine is dual core with intel gma x3000, I'm not aware of any bottleneck. I do know gthumb performs better but I think F-Spot is now the default for new users.
[17:46] <erUSUL> Mirv: choose the right tool for the job
[17:46] <Mirv> erUSUL: yes, I just hope it gives good enough impression of itself to most users
[17:47] <n-iCe> how do I open a .wmv ??
[17:47] <soundray> Mirv: I'm not talking about your machine, I'm talking about the way it accesses the photos
[17:47] <erUSUL> Mirv: i guess that not everybody manages 12 MB photos ;)
[17:47] <n-iCe> what player can I use?
[17:47] <Survivorman> n-iCe, vlc
[17:47] <soundray> !restricted | n-iCe
[17:47] <ubotu> n-iCe: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[17:48] <Mirv> erUSUL: yeah, well the images are 4MB but 12 megapixels, meaning what comes out on current crop of compact cameras mainly. it's a bit better with eg. 2MB images, but still mono or something is spending massive amount of time decoding just a jpeg...
[17:48] <Mirv> well, hopefully it will get better. it's a great app, it's just slow which kind of hinders the greatness :D
[17:48] <soundray> Mirv: if you're downloading 12MP photos via a USB 1.1 (which many cameras still have), then it's no wonder you're experiencing delays
[17:48] <n-iCe> soundray:  but I need the player
[17:49] <n-iCe> what player can I use to play them?
[17:49] <Mirv> soundray: nope, already downloaded, viewing from hard disk
[17:49] <chsmrs> hi again. is perhaps someone here who knows howto set up to fingerprint reader for gdm on a HP 8510p?
[17:49] <soundray> n-iCe: you can use any player, once you have the codecs
[17:49] <n-iCe> mplayer didn't work
[17:49] <n-iCe> soundray:  oooh ok
[17:49] <Mirv> soundray: the (progressive) decoding is just very slow compared to gthumb & co, like 10x slower or more
[17:49] <soundray> !doesntwork | n-iCe
[17:49] <ubotu> n-iCe: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[17:49] <n-iCe> soundray:  where do I get a codec package?
[17:49] <Mirv> well, maybe 10x is about right
[17:49] <nickrud> !wmv | n-iCe
[17:49] <ubotu> n-iCe: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[17:49] <soundray> n-iCe: read the Restricted... link that ubotu gave you twice
[17:49] <n-iCe> is there any apt-get with codecs?
[17:50] <soundray> n-iCe: READ!
[17:50] <arvind_khadri> hi,does firewall come default in ubuntu
[17:50] <Ashfire908> I set up a stun daemon on my NAT gateway, and i set pidgin to use the gateway as the stunserver but it doesn't seem to get the external ip...
[17:50] <Survivorman> sudo apt-get ubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:50] <nickrud> !medibuntu | n-iCe (this is what you want, restricted can be obscure)
[17:50] <ubotu> n-iCe (this is what you want, restricted can be obscure): medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[17:50] <soundray> !firewall | arvind_khadri
[17:50] <ubotu> arvind_khadri: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[17:50] <bazhang> arvind_khadri: iptables is the firewall
[17:50] <Survivorman> or get vlc sudo apt-get install vlc
[17:50] <chsmrs> lnobody? :(
[17:50] <cvd-pr> command to install .deb
[17:50] <cvd-pr> ?
[17:51] <stefg> !software | cvd-pr
[17:51] <ubotu> cvd-pr: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[17:51] <bazhang> chsmrs: what is the question
[17:51] <soundray> cvd-pr: I told you already, why don't you listen
[17:51] <arvind_khadri> thanks to all.... :) was jus arguing with my cousin bout it....
[17:51] <Survivorman> dpkg -i filename.deb
[17:51] <osx5> hey all
[17:51]  * soundray annoyed
[17:51] <chsmrs> bazhang: hi again. is perhaps someone here who knows howto set up to fingerprint reader for gdm on a HP 8510p?
[17:51] <osx5> question: i have a friend whos had a few power surges at their house and their wireless card that was stock wasn't working so they put a new one in, won't work. I think the pci slots were fried, can they get a USB wireless card and it'll run on a desktop fine?
[17:51] <bazhang> hehe
[17:51] <Daisil> erusul: time to see how this goes
[17:51] <n-iCe> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs ogle ogle-gui
[17:51] <soundray> !repeat | chsmrs
[17:51] <ubotu> chsmrs: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[17:51] <n-iCe> would that work?
[17:51] <soundray> !paste | n-iCe
[17:51] <ubotu> n-iCe: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[17:52] <chsmrs> soundray, he asked what the question was!
[17:52] <nickrud> n-iCe that will get totem to play wmv, I think. For mplayer, you need the w32codecs , see the medibuntu link I gave above
[17:52] <bazhang> sorry soundray my bad
[17:52] <chsmrs> but sry for repeating anway
[17:52] <niko_> on amarok earlier. i was wondering if there is a stress testing prog similar to prime95 and a temp monitoring app that would be good
[17:52] <n-iCe> is totem a player?
[17:52] <FnordPerfect> ahoy, everyone. Ok,I upgraded to hardy tonight. I'm still bound to the 2.6.22-14 kernel and corresponding module packages atm. However, I have a problem with the nvidia modules (a version mismatch between the kernel and X one).
[17:52] <bazhang> n-iCe: aye
[17:52] <soundray> chsmrs: your question is still  a repeat from hours ago. Have you not been able to refine your question, based on what you tried in between?
[17:52] <n-iCe> I don't care what player it uses, just need to play the videos, thanks
[17:53] <bazhang> FnordPerfect: #ubuntu+1 thanks
[17:53] <nickrud> FnordPerfect reboot, choose the 2.6.24 kernel. But #ubuntu+1 is handling hardy questions until release,  /j #ubuntu+1
[17:53] <cvd-pr> soundray,  'I told you already, why don't you listen', you could tell me it, instead of saying that
[17:53] <bazhang> n-iCe: some wmv will not play so be aware of that
[17:54] <chsmrs> soundray: no i have not. i have had to reinstall my OS because i somehow managed to lock myself out. someone in here gave me a very helpful link to solve this problem, but since i had to reinstall i don't have it anymore
[17:54] <soundray> cvd-pr: I just get annoyed when I realize that my advice is not valued
[17:54] <bazhang> cvd-pr: ease up a bit please
[17:54] <metbsd> is there mplayer in ubuntu?
[17:54] <FnordPerfect> nickrud: I tried it. :-( there I'm having quite a problem with it's initrd. but, ok, I'll go there. bye
[17:54] <bazhang> metbsd: aye
[17:54] <chsmrs> metbsd, yes, there is
[17:54] <metbsd> where to install it, and xms
[17:54] <soundray> chsmrs: http://www.vogelweith.com/debian_laptop/01_hpcompaq8510p.php
[17:55] <metbsd> winamp
[17:55] <n-iCe> uhm I downloaded that
[17:55] <n-iCe> and I don't see the video just the audio :|
[17:55] <simplexio> is there cmd to reset x11 video setting
[17:55] <chsmrs> soundray, thank you very much, and sry for bothering :)
[17:55] <bazhang> simplexio: sure
[17:55] <soundray> chsmrs: all forgiven, sorry about the reinstall
[17:55] <bazhang> your advice is very much valued soundray ;]
[17:55] <simplexio> i know you can "zoom" with ctl+alt++ or what compo it was but it didnt work just moment ago
[17:56] <linxeh> it doesent zoom
[17:56] <linxeh> it just changes the X resolution, keeping your original desktop size
[17:56] <soundray> simplexio: not really, but you can try to restore a backup of /etc/X11/xorg.conf (there are usually several)
[17:56] <simplexio> bazhjust tried frets on fire and it messed my destop to just one monitor
[17:57] <linxeh> simplexio: did you try logging out ?
[17:57] <simplexio> ctrl+alt+backspace fixed it
[17:57] <soundray> simplexio: that'll fix itself on reboot (at the latest)
[17:57] <soundray> there you go
[17:57] <n-iCe> I cant
[17:57] <n-iCe> grr
[17:57] <linxeh> ctrl+alt+backspace essentially logs you out but its a bit ungraceful :)
[17:57] <simplexio> but i want to knwo if there is soem command that does same, its so annoying to start all programs again
[17:58] <soundray> !info mplayer | metbsd
[17:58] <linxeh> simplexio: that restarts X completely
[17:58] <ubotu> metbsd: mplayer (source: mplayer): The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0~rc1-0ubuntu13.2 (gutsy), package size 3775 kB, installed size 9428 kB
[17:58] <simplexio> linxeh: and fixes things if X is behaing badly,
[17:58] <pierre-> hello
[17:58] <n-iCe> how do I install the wma codecs to watch videos?
[17:58] <ADHDYoshi> There.
[17:59] <n-iCe> wmv *
[17:59] <soundray> simplexio: no, you can't reset X without killing all apps that depend on it
[17:59] <TheTaylorEffect> Good Afternoon everyone... Does anyone know if there is a way to install 7.10 off the Live CD with LILO rather then GRUB?
[17:59] <TheTaylorEffect> I'm interested in trying XFS rather then EXT3... and input would be appreciated.
[17:59] <pierre-> how can i get to work dri on intel 945 with "intel" driver on gutsy?
[17:59] <bazhang> n-iCe: try the win32codecs from medibuntu not sure but worth a try
[17:59] <linxeh> simplexio: sure, its restarting X though, it goes through the whole init process again - you are unlikely to find a solution that resets X without forcing you to go through the process and restart your apps
[17:59] <arvind_khadri> n-iCe, install the ugly set
[17:59] <metbsd> !info xmms
[17:59] <ubotu> xmms (source: xmms): Versatile X audio player. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.2.10+20070601-1 (gutsy), package size 2101 kB, installed size 6292 kB
[17:59] <soundray> bazhang: thanks for the moral support
[17:59] <simplexio> soundray: hmm. i meant just reseting monitor+dekstopsize
[17:59] <n-iCe> bazhang:  but I don't get how to install it? :< second say with ubuntu
[17:59] <n-iCe> day
[18:00] <simplexio> like in console, reset
[18:00] <n-iCe> medibuntu.org?
[18:00] <bazhang> n-iCe: follow the instructions at www.medibuntu.org thanks
[18:00] <n-iCe> let's see
[18:00] <arvind_khadri> n-iCe, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[18:01] <arvind_khadri> n-iCe, type this piece in the terminal
[18:01] <nickrud> arvind_khadri that won't help him play wmv with mplayer, which is what he wants
[18:01] <n-iCe> arvind_khadri:  says I have the lastest version already
[18:01] <metbsd> anyone use qmail?
[18:01] <sdakak> Should I install the beta release? I think the 7.10 final was same as the 7.10 beta. Would it be same this time?
[18:01] <AlexQ> Hi. Does anybody know how to get flash at AMD64 Ubuntu 7.10? I don't know how to do it! The packet in repo flashplugin-nonfree is bugged as it uses the newest package from adobe, but it's using the old checksum... The package from adobe has an installer, but only for 32 bit systems.
[18:01] <bazhang> TheTaylorEffect: why lilo? grub is much more full-featured
[18:01] <arvind_khadri> nickrud, then w32codecs should work
[18:02] <metbsd> any serious email administrator
[18:02] <nickrud> sdakak #ubuntu+1 is handling hardy questions until release,  /j #ubuntu+1 (and no, the beta has already had hundreds of megs of updates)
[18:02] <arvind_khadri> nickrud, ugly set used to work for me
[18:02] <n-iCe> im doing the medibuntu thing
[18:02] <TheTaylorEffect> bazhang - the LIVE installer gives me a warning, that says GRUB isn't compaitlbe with XFS.
[18:02] <nickrud> arvind_khadri sure, with gstreamer apps
[18:02] <n-iCe> how to know what ubuntu version do I have?
[18:02] <linxeh> simplexio: xvidtune or something
[18:02] <soundray> AlexQ: I thought that bug was long sorted out. Can you do a 'sudo apt-get update' and try the flashplugin-nonfree package again?
[18:02] <nickrud> n-iCe   lsb_release -a  in a terminal
[18:02] <soundray> !version | n-iCe
[18:02] <ubotu> n-iCe: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[18:02] <arvind_khadri> nickrud, yeah
[18:03] <bazhang> TheTaylorEffect: okay; any reason for xfs over ext3? the latter is more stable
[18:03] <TheTaylorEffect> bazhang - I thought about creatings a small EXT3 petition and mounting it on /boot - but I've read a number of things that
[18:03] <TheTaylorEffect> say this is an unstable configuration.
[18:03] <Ashfire908> I set up a stun daemon on my NAT gateway, and i set pidgin to use the gateway as the stunserver but it doesn't seem to get the external ip...
[18:03] <n-iCe> ok I did the medibuntu thing and now?
[18:03] <nickrud> n-iCe did you do  sudo apt-get install w32codecs ?
[18:04] <Pupeno> What do I need to install to have spamassasin enabled in Evolution? I've already installed spamassin package.
[18:04] <iositd> bazhang, xfs is faster at some systems (like mine with my couple thousand of tiny files), yet the /boot can't hold grub in that case.
[18:04] <TheTaylorEffect> bazhang - I was under the impression XFS was a "faster" filesystem... so I was going to try it as an experiment.
[18:04] <n-iCe> nickrud:  In the document doesn't say to do that
[18:04] <AlexQ> soundray: Im trying... But  I thing it will not work
[18:04] <n-iCe> let me do it
[18:04] <bazhang> n-iCe: you did all that in less than a minute? really?
[18:04] <iositd> TheTaylorEffect, it has it's advantages, just make sure you have a seperate /boot.
[18:04] <bazhang> iositd: thanks for the info!
[18:04] <nickrud> TheTaylorEffect /boot on a partition is useful with arcane partitioning stuff like lvm or raid, but not needed for a regular install. Just don't share it between different ubuntu installs
[18:04] <n-iCe> done nickrud
[18:04] <n-iCe> downloading
[18:05] <iositd> nickrud, keeping /boot seperate is also usefull when you use xfs :-)
[18:05] <AlexQ> soundray: How does it generate the .xpt file? It isn't in the archive from adobe
[18:05] <TheTaylorEffect> iositd - would you suggest using LILO rather then GRUB?
[18:05] <nickrud> n-iCe if it completed successfully, you'll be able to play wmv's with mplayer (assuming all else is good)
[18:05] <simplexio> Bax_: xfs is very good fs, if you have ups
[18:05] <TheTaylorEffect> with XFS
[18:05] <iositd> TheTaylorEffect, i'd suggest grub.
[18:05] <n-iCe> nickrud:  no I got an error
[18:05] <nickrud> n-iCe put the error on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[18:05] <n-iCe> isn't available
[18:05] <iositd> TheTaylorEffect, hence the reason for using a seperate /boot (it only has to be like 100 meg or so)
[18:05] <n-iCe> is in spanish
[18:05] <n-iCe> the thing is isn't available the codec
[18:05] <soundray> AlexQ: sorry, I don't know about the package's internals. Just that it worked flawlessly here after that bug had been fixed
[18:05] <Pupeno> I can't find any other related package. Anybody knows?
[18:05] <n-iCe> the package *
[18:06] <AlexQ> md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
[18:06] <bazhang> n-iCe: this is ubuntu or ubuntu based?
[18:06] <AlexQ> The Flash plugin is NOT installed.
[18:06] <n-iCe> there is no candidate for the installation, something like that
[18:06] <TheTaylorEffect> iositd - and should i use EXT3 on /boot?
[18:06] <nickrud> n-iCe then you didn't complete the instructions on the medibuntu install page, the two steps of adding the repository and adding the gpg key
[18:06] <AlexQ> soundray: I do NOT thinks so ;)
[18:06] <n-iCe> bazhang:  ubuntu
[18:06] <sdakak> nickrud: thanks
[18:06] <n-iCe> nickrud:  oh yeah I did :|
[18:06] <bazhang> what version n-iCe
[18:06] <n-iCe> I pasted: #
[18:06] <n-iCe> sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/edgy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[18:06] <n-iCe> #
[18:06] <n-iCe> Ubuntu 7.04 "Feisty
[18:06] <FloodBot2> n-iCe: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:06] <nickrud> n-iCe then did you do sudo apt-get update ?
[18:06] <n-iCe> oops
[18:06] <iositd> TheTaylorEffect, i always used ext2, yet ext3 will work fine.
[18:06] <soundray> AlexQ: okay, I'll try to reproduce the problem here by removing and reinstalling. Hope I won't lose flash...
[18:07] <Hammer89> anyone have any idea why locking my screen just locks the computer up?
[18:07] <identlage> hey
[18:07] <simplexio> TheTaylorEffect: /boot is nice to have if you think to use xfs in /, grub dosn't like xfs on boot partiotion, and xfs feel much fater than ext3
[18:07] <n-iCe> sorry
[18:07] <AlexQ> soundray: OK, thanks v much, but do you have AMD64?
[18:07] <n-iCe> I pasted that then the wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update
[18:07] <nickrud> n-iCe the next step is the gpg key thing,
[18:07] <TheTaylorEffect> Iositd - okay - I'm going to give it a try Thanks for the input. I'll let you know how it turns out
[18:07] <TheTaylorEffect> Thanks everyone!
[18:07] <n-iCe> I did it :|
[18:07] <iositd> TheTaylorEffect, good luck!
[18:07] <identlage> i've upgraded to hardy heron and my nm-applet isnt working. its only showing "Enable networking and "Edit wireless networks"
[18:07] <n-iCe> my ubuntu version is 6.10
[18:07] <nickrud> n-iCe did it get a bunch of files off the net?
[18:07] <identlage> anyone knows why?
[18:08] <n-iCe> nickrud: i guess so
[18:08] <AlexQ> soundray: http://ubuntuamd64.wordpress.com/category/poradnik/instalacja-flash/ - these commands don't want to work couz i dont have cd to install alien
[18:08] <nickrud> identlage #ubuntu+1 is handling hardy questions until release,  /j #ubuntu+1
[18:08] <iositd> identlage, /j #ubuntu+2
[18:08] <iositd> *#ubuntu+1
[18:08] <n-iCe> what player should I use to open the file?
[18:08] <pierre-> how can i get to work dri on intel 945 with "intel" driver on gutsy?
[18:08] <identlage> thanks guys
[18:08] <nickrud> n-iCe  type   sudo apt-get update , and put a copy of the output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org , then give me the link so I can look at it
[18:09] <soundray> AlexQ: do you trust your downloaded .tar.gz in spite of the md5sum error?
[18:09] <AlexQ> soundray: Yeah, of course, it's not possible that it's wrong, ive been reinstalling flashplugin many times
[18:10] <n-iCe> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62337/
[18:10] <soundray> AlexQ: I mean "trust" in the sense that someone evil might have slipped you a falsified archive
[18:11] <metbsd> pierre-: do you have wide screen
[18:11] <tyler> me?
[18:11] <michael__> when i do the sudo apt get update it comes back with an error i think =P lemme check
[18:11] <AlexQ> soundray: No, that's not possible, it has been downloaded from old macromedia mirror, just once again by the intall0script
[18:11] <bazhang> michael__: this is gutsy or hardy
[18:12] <tyler> are there channels here?
[18:12] <soundray> AlexQ: if you feel safe doing it, you could override the md5sum checks in /var/lib/dpkg/info/flashplugin-nonfree.postinst
[18:12] <michael__> bazhang: gutsy
[18:12] <n-iCe> nickrud:  found something wrong?
[18:12] <AlexQ> soundray: OK.
[18:12] <michael__> bazhang: if i past it in pastebin will you take a look ?
[18:12] <nickrud> n-iCe ok, at the very top of that output I see it getting the medibuntu Package list, so you got the instructions right. So,   sudo apt-get install w32codecs   should work
[18:12] <bazhang> michael__: please pastebin the sources list
[18:12] <soundray> AlexQ: just remove the two lines that contain md5sum and run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure flashplugin-nonfree'
[18:13] <n-iCe> nickrud:  ok now it says is already installed with the lastest version
[18:13] <nickrud> n-iCe then try playing the wmv with mplayer
[18:13] <n-iCe> But I cant' watch the video :<
[18:13] <OoteR_> ls
[18:13] <nickrud> n-iCe is it a drm protected file?
[18:14] <bazhang> n-iCe: then it is not playable; some wmv just are not
[18:14] <michael__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62338/
[18:14] <n-iCe> nickrud:  I don't know
[18:14] <michael__> bazhang: ^ there you go^
[18:14] <soundray> Hammer89: you haven't enabled any screensavers?
[18:14] <bazhang> michael__: that is your sources.list?
[18:14] <nickrud> n-iCe when you watch it on windows, do you need a password? Also, go find a test wmv on the net, see if that one plays
[18:15] <AlexQ> soundray: plugin changed, not trusted The Flash plugin is NOT installed.
[18:15] <michael__> bazhang: i believe its what i get out through the terminal when i use the command
[18:15] <n-iCe> nickrud:  I don't think so, let me find a wmv in the web
[18:15] <n-iCe> do you got one?
[18:15] <bazhang> michael__: please paste your sources.list as well thanks
[18:15] <omax> ciao a tutti
[18:15] <palcacer> Hi I a problem somebody to help me plese?
[18:15] <michael__> bazhang: not to sound newbie but were do i find it hahah
[18:15] <bazhang> !it | omax
[18:15] <ubotu> omax: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[18:16] <AlexQ> soundray: I've entered the adress, now I 'im trying do download it by this script. So, if I have deleted the checking of the md5sum line, it would work, yeah? Im waiting.
[18:16] <DKong> do i need to do something special to access my windows home network to see shares?
[18:16] <patrick__> whats the easiest to install/use dock for ubuntu?
[18:16] <simplexio> palcacer: no if you dont tell us what is your problem
[18:16] <omax> ok
[18:16] <pirata> where can i set more buttons like on system -> settings ?
[18:16] <Hammer89> soundray: should I? (I'm not sure if any are enabled)
[18:17] <bazhang> patrick__: you mean awn?
[18:17] <michael__> hey anyone know where i can find my sources.list ??
[18:17] <metbsd> in /etc
[18:17] <f0rmat> i would like it so everytime i create a new user it changed there home folder to the correct chmod instead of me having to type "sudo chmod go-rwx /home/*" every time
[18:17] <michael__> thank you
[18:17] <soundray> AlexQ: I don't know. I find it strange that it shouldn't work. I've just done a simple 'sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-nonfree', then a successful 'sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree' without entering any addresses manually
[18:17] <Aentn> i use awn it was pretty easy to set up and im pleased with it
[18:17] <bazhang> michael__: you have some odd repos in there; try commenting out the wine one and try again
[18:17] <nickrud> n-iCe http://www.overly.com/door/tech/videos/02-test1.wmv
[18:17] <n-iCe> nickrud:  thank you so much
[18:18] <n-iCe> I can watch it
[18:18] <nickrud> n-iCe tested that one in a couple situations, should be able to compare experiences
[18:18] <soundray> Hammer89: no, screensavers occasionally cause lockups. Make sure yours is set to 'Blank screen only'
[18:18] <patrick__> bazhang i dont know of any docks for ubuntu except kibadock which is pretty hard for me to install..i screwed up last time ...but i've used a dock in mac os and i'm just wondering whats the easiest to use and install on ubunut
[18:18] <patrick__> ubuntu*
[18:18] <Hammer89> soundray: okay
[18:18] <AlexQ> soundray: Download done. plugin changed, not trusted The Flash plugin is NOT installed.
[18:18] <bazhang> michael__: no need to paste those; I just saw most of them
[18:18] <n-iCe> :D !!
[18:18] <DKong> is the samba.conf only for my ubuntu machine as a server or is it for allowing me to see windows shares?
[18:18] <palcacer> Ok now we´re talking. I have a laptop I I put a external monitor, and It works well, but now when I start up, dosen´t start with graphics it start in "text" mode I think linux language, ando I don´t know how to turn it to normal!!
[18:18] <mrj> hi
[18:18] <mrj> i have a ad-hoc related problem
[18:18] <michael__> bazhang: i think i may know what the wine one maybe gimme a min
[18:18] <soundray> AlexQ: can you try the same procedure that I just did? The --purge might make all the difference...
[18:19] <mrj> after set up
[18:19] <hoss> DKong: only for ubuntu machine
[18:19] <n-iCe> nickrud:  thank you, now where can I find themes like, icons etc
[18:19] <mrj> and after i connect one pc to another
[18:19] <Aentn> palcacer, try typing "Startx"?
[18:19] <mrj> via ad-hoc wireless
[18:19] <AlexQ> soundray: I, to the fuc**n, what's up. OK, ill try
[18:19] <bazhang> patrick__: that would be avant-window-navigator; you need to install from an outside repo for gutsy, but will come in ubuntu repos for next release in 18 days
[18:19] <Hammer89> is it a problem that apt-get autoremove just removed gnome-core and seahorse? :P
[18:19] <mrj> they can not ping each other
[18:19] <soundray> AlexQ: hey, not nice
[18:19] <DKong> what controls being ale to see windows shares
[18:19] <mrj> destination host unreachable
[18:19] <nickrud> n-iCe art.gnome.org , gnome-look.org
[18:19] <AlexQ> soundray: But what does it mean "plugin changed, not trusted"?
[18:19] <AlexQ> clear
[18:19] <wers> how do I remove software that I installed from source?
[18:19] <palcacer> Do you know what did I do?
[18:19] <bazhang> AlexQ: watch the language
[18:19] <iositd> !enter | mrj
[18:19] <ubotu> mrj: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[18:19] <boebi> my computer just doesnt want GRUB :p
[18:19] <soundray> AlexQ: don't know, sry
[18:19] <patrick__> bazhang so i might as well just wait for hardy heron..cuz then that will be easier to install right?
[18:20] <n-iCe> nickrud:  is there any manual about how install them?
[18:20] <boebi> anyone ever had a computer that simply refuses GRUB? lol
[18:20] <bazhang> patrick__: depends on your patience; can you wait that long? ;]
[18:20] <mrserii> hellow! i have problems with 8.04 someone can help me ? pivate
[18:20] <mrj> ok i got that sorry i will try to press enter less occasionally :) so can yo uhelp me with my ad-hoc problem ?
[18:20] <palcacer> thank you, I will try!
[18:20] <bazhang> mrserii: #ubuntu+1 please
[18:20] <Fade2Black> hey if i install ubuntu 7.10 when the new version come out can i just upgrade or would it be better to do a fresh install
[18:20] <niko_> ubuntu is not recognizing my portable hard drive. any ideas?
[18:20] <patrick__> bazhang...18 days is a while..although i'd prefer to have a stable release as im not too good with beta's and bugs and what not
[18:20] <bazhang> Fade2Black: either will do
[18:20] <nickrud> n-iCe gnome-look.org has some howtos
[18:20] <mrserii> bazhang
[18:21] <n-iCe> k
[18:21] <mrserii> i dosent know how to use irc
[18:21] <soundray> wers: some source packages offer a 'make uninstall' command. Run it with sudo. Failing that, go through the Makefile and undo all the changes that are listed under "install:" by hand
[18:21] <bazhang> mrserii: type /j #ubuntu+1
[18:21] <wers> thanks soundray
[18:21] <soundray> !checkinstall | wers, to save you trouble next time
[18:21] <ubotu> wers, to save you trouble next time: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[18:21] <iositd> how can i create a new user, but not assign it a home directory and stuff? it'll be a user for ftpd services.
[18:21] <mrj> so anyone about ad-hoc ?
[18:21] <mrserii> ?
[18:22] <iositd> patrick__, i'm running hardy atm and i'm not having any trouble whatsoever.
[18:22] <achandrashekar> Anyone familiar with installing ubuntu on PPC?
[18:22] <bazhang> mrj: that is a very unclear question; please describe in detail exactly what you are trying to do and what you have done
[18:22] <nickrud> mrserii  in  the window, type     /j #ubuntu+1   , starting at the very beginning of the line
[18:22] <DKong> what do you check when you cant access widows shares on a network??
[18:22] <achandrashekar> Im having a specific issue with the install as it pertains to 7.10
[18:22] <bazhang> 1337 nicks ;]
[18:22] <boebi> when i try to install grub, and i try mounting my partition, it says /dev/sda3 is either already mounted or /mnt/root is busy
[18:22] <nickrud> mrserii   /j   is short for   /join
[18:23] <boebi> i try umount /dev/sda3 and is says its not mounted
[18:23] <mrserii> done
[18:23] <patrick__> iositd..i've only been using linux itself for about 3 months now, but i know how to use irc chat!, would you suggest i download the beta?
[18:23] <boebi> so for some reason i cant mount my linux partition because /mnt/root, wich i created, is busy :s
[18:23] <bazhang> achandrashekar: have done so yes; please describe clearly your issues thanks
[18:24] <bazhang> boebi: this is gutsy?
[18:24] <nickrud> boebi do you have a terminal opened to /mnt/root ?
[18:24] <iositd> patrick__, i've actively used ubuntu (that's where i started) for about 2 months or so, from the moment i got my laptop. I've been able to fix almost every issue i had so far with it.
[18:24] <n-iCe> nickrud:  I can't find the how to... :/ do you knwo how to istall the icons themes? the .tar.gz is on my desktop already
[18:24] <boebi> baz, yes
[18:24] <boebi> nick, no
[18:24] <bazhang> boebi: tab completion is your friend ;]
[18:24] <AlexQ> soundray: OK, ill try to lookup at this config file from flashplugin-nonfree. After a purge, i've received md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz once again ;)
[18:24] <achandrashekar> bazhang: the issue when using the option for live i believe its no "something"...I type that..and the system after a white screen dumps to a prompt
[18:24] <boebi> tab completion?
[18:25] <nickrud> n-iCe system->prefs->appearance, and drag the tar.gz onto the window. To change to it, hit the customize button on the window, you'll see a new dialog with an icons tab
[18:25] <iositd> patrick__, IMO it's quite safe to do it.
[18:25] <achandrashekar> bazhang: I also used the alternate cd
[18:25] <patrick__> iositd..so in your own opinion is there a point to waiting the next 18 days?? also does it come with a dock in the repo's in the beta?
[18:25] <achandrashekar> bazhang: and after install from console...just boots up and nothing on the screen. This is true across 6 different systems now.
[18:25] <achandrashekar> bazhang: with dapper there is no issue.
[18:25] <soundray> AlexQ: isn't it weird that you get this problem while I don't? Perhaps you too should switch to the UK mirror server
[18:25] <bazhang> type three or so letters boebi then hit tab and the full nickname will come up and then we can see it clearly thanks
[18:26] <n-iCe> haha you coronel :D, nickrud thanks worked
[18:26] <iositd> patrick__, define dock? and for me it's stable, but that's a personal opinion on 2 systems.
[18:26] <magic_ninja> how do i change the date on my computer (i need to set it back for one year)
[18:26] <boebi> but what do i want to see clearly? i dont understand
[18:26] <boebi> ooh, its in mirc
[18:26] <n-iCe> nickrud:  do you know how to put my trash can on the desktop? :D
[18:26] <soundray> !who | boebi
[18:26] <ubotu> boebi: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[18:26] <bazhang> boebi: not you, us--if you do not use our nicknames then we can not clearly see your message
[18:26] <nickrud> magic_ninja right click the clock, upper right by default
[18:27] <mrj> so anyone on AD-HOC wireless under Liniux ?
[18:27] <boebi> bazhang, alright i understand now lol, sorry
[18:27] <magic_ninja> i'm on ice wm
[18:27] <AlexQ> soundray: Last time I haven't deleted all of the checks (md5sum after the unpacking), now I have done it, im trying now...
[18:27] <magic_ninja> whats the name of the program it runs
[18:27] <nickrud> n-iCe   gconf-editor   /apps/nautilus/desktop , you'll see some options in the right pane
[18:27] <BIOSboiler> has any one ever setup x11 forwarding in here?
[18:27] <iositd> how can i create a new user, but not assign it a home directory and stuff? it'll be a user for ftpd services.
[18:27] <patrick__> iositd like kibadock.. you know the thing that holds all of the icons etc...like on mac os
[18:27] <bazhang> achandrashekar: you type something? not sure what you mean by that--could you clarify please--also what drivers do you have for your video card and what card is it
[18:27] <boebi> bazhang, when i try mounting, it says that /mnt/root is busy
[18:27] <TheTaylorEffect> Patrick REALLY wants and AWN style dock...
[18:27] <soundray> BIOSboiler: just say what the issue is
[18:27] <murkyMurk> ctrl-alt-F1 to long does anything for me in Heron
[18:27] <iositd> patrick__, i'm sorry, i'm not familiar with a dock or MAC OS.
[18:28] <cchild> i use the following "truecrypt /dev/sda3 /mnt/myfat" to mount a truecrypte fat drive but users can't write to it. how do i do this?
[18:28] <TheTaylorEffect> but he wants it in the REOPs
[18:28] <patrick__> iositd hd on ill get you a pic
[18:28] <iositd> patrick__, ok
[18:28] <soundray> murkyMurk: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[18:28] <TheTaylorEffect> repo's*
[18:28] <AC0RNZ> yo guys, i split a rared file into 2 pieces using karchiver... then i click extract.. and it asks me for password.. i never set a password though?
[18:28] <murkyMurk> soundray: ta
[18:28] <AC0RNZ> anyway i can set it w/ no passwordd?
[18:28] <bazhang> BIOSboiler: is on hardy
[18:28] <patrick__> iositd the thing at the bottom of the screenshot http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/4940/screenshotpy0.png
[18:29] <nickrud> magic_ninja   sudo date <date>  (see man date for format)  , then   sudo hwclock --systohc  to set the cmos clock
[18:29] <iositd> patrick__, is that from the open apps or more like shortcuts? and doesn't compiz have that feature?
[18:29] <n-iCe> awesome
[18:29] <AlexQ> soundray: I have equal error when I was tryign to install flashplugin myself... Cannot execute /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer.bin: No such file or directory
[18:29] <bazhang> TheTaylorEffect: it will be in the repos in the next release
[18:29] <Iz> i just did all my updates in ubuntu. i installed the 7.04 and updated to 7.10 but when its b00ts grub gives me many options with different kernels :S why that??
[18:30] <soundray> AlexQ: try a 'sudo apt-get --reinstall install nspluginwrapper'
[18:30] <gkffjcs> does anyone know what program is responsible for gnome themes? I heard gconf, but the command gconf doesn't seem to exist.
[18:30] <boebi> it says this: /dev/sda3 already mounted or /mnt/root/boot busy
[18:30] <soundray> !themes | gkffjcs
[18:30] <ubotu> gkffjcs: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[18:30] <achandrashekar> bazhang: its the standard ati that comes with g4 tower, and the command is live video=ofonly
[18:30] <nickrud> n-iCe that gconf-editor has a lot of browsable interest, you should look through ti
[18:30] <soundray> gkffjcs: also look in the menus: System-Preferences-Appearance
[18:30] <boebi> I checked and /dev/sda3 is NOT mounted, so for some reason it says that /mnt/root is busy
[18:30] <cchild> boebi, it mounts fine, is just that user can't write to it
[18:31] <patrick__> iositd i dont know if compiz-fusion has it or not..all i know is kiba dock is pretty popular im just having trouble installing it...
[18:31] <patrick__> iositd ill be right back..
[18:31] <Teoz> when I try to make a script start up, I get the message System startup links for /etc/init.d/firewalliptables already exist but the script in that file doesn't actually start up
[18:31] <cchild> beobi, sorry i thought you were talking to me
[18:31] <bazhang> achandrashekar: have you removed quiet and watched the exact errors you are getting? that would be very helpful
[18:31] <boebi> cchild, i did the check (lc /mnt/root) and it turned negative, it did NOT mount
[18:31] <soundray> Teoz: is /etc/init.d/firewalliptables executable?
[18:32] <boebi> ls /mnr/root **
[18:32] <n-iCe> k
[18:32] <Teoz> soundray: yeah I made a sudo chmod +x on it
[18:32] <boebi> grr, ls /mnt/root ***
[18:32] <gkffjcs> that's not really what I meant, I know how to change themes, what I need it to know the command for the tool that is responsible for themeing in gnome
[18:32] <cchild> beobi were you responding to my problem or you have your own?
[18:32] <boebi> cchild, i have a problem
[18:32] <soundray> Teoz: did you follow the other hints in /etc/init.d/skeleton ?
[18:32] <gkffjcs> not the configuration too
[18:32] <palcacer> Hi now I try to startx and it sads that do not find the screen,
[18:33] <nickrud> gkffjcs theme creation is still pretty much done by hand, gnome-look.org has some tutorials I think (or maybe art.gnome.org)
[18:33] <cchild> beobi, oh, what is it?
[18:33] <soundray> gkffjcs: you mean the window manager, metacity?
[18:33] <Teoz> soundray: not really, I just made a file with #!/bin/bash on the first line and then, the next lines are filled with what I would put in the console
[18:33] <boebi> cchild, i am trying to install grub manually, it failed at the ubuntu setup. so i start the life cd, and start with mounting, but it doesnt work
[18:34] <patrick__> iositd im back...but ya
[18:34] <AC0RNZ>  yo guys, i split a rared file into 2 pieces using karchiver... then i click extract.. and it asks me for password.. i never set a password though?, anyone know wut the password would be?
[18:34] <soundray> Teoz: in that case, I would suggest you use /etc/rc.local instead of the init script system
[18:34] <boebi> AC0RNZ, tried simply pressing OK, or enter, or whatever?
[18:34] <AC0RNZ> ill try
[18:34] <patrick__> okay i might as well ask everyone in here...is it safe to download the beta? or should i really wait these last excruciating 18 days..
[18:34] <AC0RNZ> i think i did that before though
[18:34] <iositd> patrick__, i understand. From what i've done with compiz so far, it should be possible to create that. Though i'm afraid i can't confirm that as i'm no longer using gnome or kde (using fluxbox)
[18:35] <Teoz> hmm, okay, I will try to find the command that updates rc.local
[18:35] <palcacer> Hi how I reconfigure my screen from "text" mode'
[18:35] <boebi> im gonna try something again, gonna boot into ubuntu again, brb
[18:35] <cchild> beobi, where is boot installed? what device--same as root?
[18:35] <cchild>  i use the following "truecrypt /dev/sda3 /mnt/myfat" to mount a truecrypt fat drive but users can't write to it. how do i do this?
[18:35] <n-iCe> which one is the faster broswer?
[18:35] <soundray> palcacer: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[18:35] <patrick__> iositd mind providing me with a screeny of your desktop? i've heard lots about fluxbox
[18:35] <AC0RNZ> n-Ice, i like firefox <_<
[18:35] <AC0RNZ> and dillo
[18:36] <iositd> patrick__, not at all. A second
[18:36] <patrick__> =)
[18:36] <AlexQ> soundray: afres reinstalling the nspluginwrapper I've occured the same error once again ;(. What to do?
[18:36] <palcacer> thanks I will try!!
[18:36] <soundray> AlexQ: the "cannot execute" one?
[18:36] <n-iCe> How can I know my firefox version?
[18:36] <AlexQ> soundray: Yeah, the file just doesn't exist.
[18:36] <n-iCe> Is true that there are some firefox tricks to do firefox faster?
[18:36] <gkffjcs> no, I run kde, but I use gnome apps, they look really guly, if i run gnome-panel from inside kde then go to system prefrences and then go to appearance and select a theme all the sudden my gnome apps are themed. What I want to know is the exact command to start up the themer, so I don't need to allways start gnome-panel, and then open up the appearance prefrences.
[18:37] <soundray> AlexQ: /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer.bin doesn't exist at all?
[18:37] <iositd> patrick__,  http://img402.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotpx9.jpg as you can see, no desktop shortcuts or anything. Everything i do is by shortcuts.
[18:37] <patrick__> iositd sorry about that
[18:37] <Survivorman> n-iCe, a lot of the firefox tricks to improve performace are windows only
[18:37] <AlexQ> soundray: bash: usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer.bin: No such file or directory
[18:37] <n-iCe> oh I see
[18:37] <jaggy> http://pastebin.ca/974223 why would this happen? :(
[18:37] <n-iCe> there are no ubuntu tricks :<
[18:37] <iositd> patrick__, about what?
[18:37] <nickrud> gkffjcs I think that's gnome-settings-daemon
[18:38] <soundray> AlexQ: what do you get from a 'ls /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer.bin' (mind the leading slash)
[18:38] <gkffjcs> thanks!
[18:38] <patrick__> nothing just computer freaked out haha ..i tried to set something as my background and it logged me off...weird
[18:38] <Survivorman> n-iCe, keeping firefox lean and not bogged down with lots of extensions can help
[18:38] <iositd> patrick__, that is weird. Did you see the screenie?
[18:38] <AlexQ> soundray: /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer.bin
[18:38] <nickrud> gkffjcs but to be sure, next time you start up the panel, see what other apps get started at the same time (ps aux is useful for that) and one of those is the culprit
[18:38] <patrick__> iositd sorry but no mind sending again?
[18:39] <iositd> patrick__, http://img402.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotpx9.jpg there you go
[18:39] <AC0RNZ> n-ice, also deleting ur cookies and internet history and cache can help
[18:39] <n-iCe> thanks
[18:39] <soundray> AlexQ: so it does exist. Does it appear in green?
[18:39] <Survivorman> n-iCe, when firefox 3 is out of beta, i'd use that. there should be decent performance gains with it.
[18:39] <iositd> If i disable login when adding a user, will a program that i set to run as that user, still be able to do so?
[18:39] <AlexQ> soundray: Yeah
[18:40] <AlexQ> soundray: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/flash
[18:40] <danb1235> hi im having problems installing ubuntu on my laptop (HP Pavilion DV9548CA) I've tried ubuntu 7.10 and the beta for ubuntu 8 and when i try install i just get a black screen
[18:40] <nickrud> iositd should, since apps owned by root run, as well as apache and the like
[18:40] <jaggy> http://pastebin.ca/974223 why would this happen? :(
[18:40] <iositd> nickrud, alright tnx.
[18:40] <achandrashekar> bazhang: how is that possible...system doesnt even get that far on install...
[18:41] <n-iCe> thanks
[18:41] <n-iCe> ill be back later
[18:41] <soundray> AlexQ: what do you want me to do with this outdated link?
[18:41] <jaggy> anyone? please?
[18:41] <bazhang> achandrashekar: do any ppc distros boot on this computer?
[18:41] <AlexQ> soundray: I don't know, I just want a flash :). Change repo or what?
[18:42] <bmeynell> why would the 'status' command return 'status: Unknown job: foobar' when i know the 'foobar' job is running (confirmed by ps ax |grep foobar)? how can I get 'status' to work?
[18:42] <achandrashekar> bazhang: yes 6.00 dapper
[18:42] <cchild>  i use the following "truecrypt /dev/sda3 /mnt/myfat" to mount a truecrypt fat drive but users can't write to it. how do i do this? anyone
[18:42] <soundray> AlexQ: which mirror are you using?
[18:42] <AlexQ> soundray: The problem is with this wrapper for plugins
[18:42] <AlexQ> soundray: Check in the sources.list? Moment.
[18:42] <patrick__> iositd are those widgets on the right? or just another window..and do you ever get a bit mixed up with your desktop?
[18:42] <soundray> AlexQ: or in System-Admin-Software sources
[18:43] <msjones> hello. is there anyway to mount network shares via the command line?
[18:43] <soundray> AlexQ: I'm pretty sure the wrapper is fine.
[18:43] <simplexio> msjones: yes
[18:43] <iositd> patrick__, no i'm always fine with it. And the thing on the right is conky, which i've configured to monitor all sorts of things. The rest is all done by shortcuts
[18:43] <bazhang> achandrashekar: well the ppc is no longer officially supported--it is a community effort now--my question was more along the lines have you tried any other recent ppc distros livecd's on that computer other than ubuntu? yellow dog, etc
[18:43] <jrib> bmeynell: what does 'jobs' tell you?
[18:43] <msjones> simplexio: how do i do this?
[18:43] <bmeynell> jrib: it returns nothing
[18:43] <simplexio> msjones: that the normal way to do it. and how depends what you want to mount
[18:43] <danb1235> is there any way to get ubuntu on a laptop ?
[18:43] <AlexQ> soundray: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted universe multiverse + deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy restricted main multiverse universe
[18:43] <bazhang> danb1235: you have hardy now?
[18:44] <iositd> danb1235, sure there is. I got it now.
[18:44] <patrick__> iositd nice..ya i think im gonna switch over to hardy heron..it seems to be fine and if i ever screw up ill just 18 days
[18:44] <soundray> AlexQ: in System-Admin-Software sources, select the United Kingdom mirror.
[18:44] <bazhang> patrick__: join the fun in #ubuntu+1 ;]
[18:44] <Randocal> I have a NFS export mounted on my Ubuntu 7.10 machine.  I accidentally shutdown and have taken some hardware out of the NFS server for maintanence, but I had neglected to umount the directory in Ubuntu first. Now I'm unable to access my file manager in Ubuntu, I think becuase it's trying to read the missing NFS mount.
[18:45] <Randocal> opening a terminal window and attempting to umount the share is not working either, any suggestions?
[18:45] <iositd> bazhang, it's fun ofcourse.
[18:45] <hiddensoul> danb1235, check  www.linux-laptop.net for linux on laptop guides
[18:45] <bazhang> iositd: ;]
[18:45] <jrib> bmeynell: thought you meant shell jobs, you must be talking about something else
[18:45] <danb1235>  iositd: how can i get it to install
[18:45] <soundray> AlexQ: when you've done that, do a purge and install on the flashplugin-nonfree package. If it doesn't work after that, I'm lost
[18:45] <iositd> danb1235, just the normal desktop install does it's job just fine.
[18:45] <msjones> simplexio: I am writing a scripts to use at work. Im by no means new to CLI but i have no clue how to access/mount samba shares
[18:45] <azuki> so.. I usually install my os'es on a suitably smaller HD.. but the packages are automaticly installed on the first drive... how (or better: where) can I change this behaviour?
[18:45] <bmeynell> jrib: no worries, thanks anyway, i'll get it figured out
[18:46] <haxit> How can I remove the nm-applet icon from my notification area?
[18:46] <danb1235>  iositd: i tried that bu t as soon as i select the install option i get a black screen
[18:46] <soundray> azuki: can you rephrase that?
[18:46] <iositd> danb1235, tried the alternate?
[18:46] <david49> just unpacked aMSN but can't read characters.......everythings too small, any help please?
[18:47] <azuki> soundray: I want to make my packages install on another drive
[18:47] <jrib> bmeynell: you're talking about upstart jobs?
[18:47] <bluefoxx> how long should it take 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a' to run?
[18:47] <danb1235>  iositd: ya it "installed" but i cant boot
[18:47] <iositd> danb1235, define "can't boot"
[18:47] <AlexQ> soundray: It doesn't seem to want to change :/.
[18:47] <soundray> azuki: the bulk of most packages goes into /usr. You can move /usr to a partition on another drive
[18:47] <hiddensoul> danb1235, try the alternate install cd
[18:48] <redtide_> can anyone here help me install the asla beta driver for my razer barracuda soundcard?
[18:48] <soundray> AlexQ: what doesn't?
[18:48] <danb1235>  iositd: i get the same black screen
[18:48] <azuki> soundray: you mean I could just move it to another drive?
[18:48] <iositd> danb1235, tried to remove quiet and splash and see where it gets stuck?
[18:48] <hiddensoul> danb1235, what is the make and model of laptop
[18:48] <kumarphilly> hello
[18:48] <haxit> Anyone?
[18:49] <danb1235> HP Pavilion DV9548CA
[18:49] <bmeynell> jrib: i'm working on a startup script for foobar but running '/etc/init.d/foobar status' (uses 'status' command) doesn't find the foobar process which is running
[18:49] <bazhang> haxit: have you tried?
[18:49] <astro76> azuki: you can do that... most people just make /home on a separate partition, what's left in / can fit in 10-15 GB
[18:49] <Slart> Is anyone here running Songbird mediaplayer? (and don't !anyone me.. I just want to see if I'm the only thinking it looks nice)...
[18:49] <danb1235>  iositd: how do i do that?
[18:49] <soundray> azuki: 'just move it' -- yeah. You have to take some precautions and update your /etc/fstab, but essentially, that's what you can do
[18:49] <deviant_> heylo
[18:49] <AlexQ> soundray: "Sources of the software (from Polish)" > Downloading from:  > Others >Great Britain > archive.ubuntu.com (?) >Protocol: http > Choose server (accepting). But it's still "Main server" in the list "Downloading from: ".
[18:50] <iositd> danb1235, when you get the grub menu, hit e. Then go down to the kernel line, hit e again. Remove quiet and splash. Press enter. Hit b to boot. Mark where it gets stuck and be sure to give it at least 5 minutes.
[18:50] <jrib> bmeynell: and  initctl list  does not list your job?
[18:50] <azuki> ok... so, seen right, the package manager really IS ubuntu.... the FSTAB is for mounting right?
[18:51] <deviant_> Does anyone know if the beta version of hardy will update itself to the release version over time?
[18:51] <bmeynell> jrib: initctl: No jobs matching 'foobar'
[18:51] <iositd> Slart, you know this isn't a poll channel
[18:51] <iositd> deviant_, it'll update itself.
[18:51] <nickrud> azuki that is an insightful comment
[18:51] <azuki> so I make a /home folder on another drive, how do I "fool" ubuntu to use it?
[18:51] <deviant_> cool thx
[18:51] <bazhang> deviant_: yes and please join #ubuntu+1 for further discussion
[18:51] <haxit> Should I go somewhere else?
[18:51] <azuki> nickrud: well thank you :)
[18:51] <AlexQ> soundray: So, what to type in /etc/apt/sources.list ? I can't make it using GUI couse of an bug or sth
[18:51] <soundray> AlexQ: I see -- that's because that is the Main Server
[18:51] <jrib> bmeynell: hmm, well there's a #upstart channel on freenode you can try as well if no one here is familiar with your issue
[18:52] <iositd> AlexQ, you can make it using gui, doing gksudo gedit <file> to edit a file as root.
[18:52] <soundray> AlexQ: I'm using that one, too, so we aren't actually approaching a solution here. Sorry.
[18:52] <nickrud> azuki  you would add a line similar to    /dev/<hompartition> /home   ext3  defaults    0 1  to /etc/fstab , then it will be mounted at /home at boot
[18:52] <bmeynell> jrib: awesome, thanks
[18:52] <Slart> iositd: yes.. I know. nevermind
[18:52] <AlexQ> soundray: But it doesn't change nothing from the System> Admin > Software
[18:52] <bazhang> haxit: have you tried removing it?
[18:53] <Knofi> hi
[18:53] <niko_>  ubuntu will not recognize a portable hard drive
[18:53] <AlexQ> Send me your own sources.list and Ill copy it to my file, OK?
[18:53] <niko_> any ideas?
[18:53] <haxit> bazhang: is it safe?
[18:53] <azuki> right, and as I understand all installed software / programs aren't "attached to the kernel" (like windows's reg-key stuff), so I could be moving them around and ubuntu would care?
[18:53] <haxit> to unistall i mean....
[18:53] <soundray> AlexQ: I know. It's because you are already using the Main Server archive.ubuntu.com (which is in the UK)
[18:53] <bazhang> haxit: sure you can put it back later if you wish
[18:53] <nickrud> azuki in theory, but other apps do have expectations sometimes. But it's adjustable
[18:53] <haxit> kk
[18:53] <amenado> how do I remove or rather add a filter to CUPS so it does not do staircase printing? and where is that added?
[18:53] <haxit> Thanks man :D
[18:53] <AlexQ> soundray: But in the soucres.list is sth with the pl.
[18:53] <bazhang> np ;]
[18:54] <Randocal> I've shutdown an NFS server on my network without unmounting the exports on my Ubuntu box first, anyone know how I can unmount now that the NFS server is down? I can't access my filemanager I think because the NFS server is missing in action and has confused ubuntu
[18:54] <Knofi> i have some problems with nfs... i cannot mount any external filesystem an none of the ideas in the error messages seems to help...
[18:54] <niko_> same here
[18:54] <haxit> bazhang: Should i remove it via apt-get remove?
[18:54] <soundray> AlexQ: not in the snippet that you pasted here earlier...
[18:54] <niko_> knofi: does it see the drive?
[18:54] <Knofi> how can i test this?
[18:54] <iositd> Randocal, sudo umount -lf <mounted location>
[18:55] <chi_> HI, and pls help with syste-temperature --- fan is not working well
[18:55] <azuki> nickrud: I don't understand the FSTAB entry you noted btw, I tried using it before, without success.. (the reason I can't run KDE yet :/ ) ... there is no home dir noted there yet.. just some uids and a /proc
[18:55] <Knofi> normally it works, another machine is able to acces ist
[18:55] <un0p> azuki, obviously things wouldnt work if you moved them around
[18:55] <bazhang> haxit: from the panel? just right click should do it, unless you want to completely remove networkmanager and use only command line to connect to internet
[18:55] <Randocal> thank you iositd
[18:55] <niko_> just go to places > computer and check there
[18:55] <haxit> bazhang: no it doesn't give me that option
[18:55] <nickrud> azuki    uuid's are references to partitions, you can determine the uuid's of your partitions with    blkid
[18:55] <danb1235>  iositd, looks like its hung up at starting bluetooth services
[18:55] <david49> does anyone know why my aMSN is unreadable, ie, I can't even log in?
[18:56] <haxit> its just's managing my dhcp right.... and I don't need it to manage that, I setup my router to do that
[18:56] <Knofi> niko_: i dont use gnome... and the directory is static in /etc/fstab
[18:56] <bazhang> haxit: any special reason to remove it?
[18:56] <ccvp> Irssi 0.8.11 (20070425) - http://irssi.org/
[18:56] <ccvp> is that latest ver?
[18:57] <haxit> bazhang: no, i just want my panel to be 19 px and its too big and the icon wont resize so I just said, w/e and I'll remove it
[18:57] <bazhang> !info irssi
[18:57] <ubotu> irssi (source: irssi): terminal based IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.11-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1027 kB, installed size 2796 kB
[18:57] <azuki> lines with # in front can be used for notes right?
[18:57] <bazhang> ccvp yes
[18:57] <niko_> Knofi: i'm in gnome and it won't even see the portable drive for me
[18:57] <ccvp> i cant even see my name in it
[18:57] <ccvp> with default install
[18:57] <ccvp> my name is in white font or something
[18:57] <iositd> danb1235, you can probably boot into recovery  and remove/blacklist the bluetooth drivers.
[18:57] <haxit> ccvp: Try changing your background for a sec under current profile.
[18:58] <iositd> azuki, yes
[18:58] <theunixgeek> You-meiyou wenti wo xie pinyin?
[18:58] <AlexQ> soundray: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62344/ - not, everything is OK ;(
[18:58] <nickrud> unop not totally true, I've copied executables out of /usr/bin to home, and ran them from there. even gnome gui stuff, for learning
[18:58] <chi_> help, temperature on cpu is too high ... need to increase cpu-fan speed
[18:58] <ccvp> i installed 7.10 yesterday after i dban(3pass wiped) my hd
[18:58] <theunixgeek> woops wrong channel
[18:58] <soundray> AlexQ: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6525/
[18:58] <theunixgeek>  :X
[18:58] <ccvp> i have an audigy 2 pci card
[18:58] <haxit> ccvp: Sweet :D
[18:58] <ccvp> is there "out of the box"
[18:58] <ccvp> 5.1 support?
[18:58] <ccvp> or is that extra tweaking
[18:58] <Knofi> @niko_ it does see the drive
[18:58] <f0rmat> !ubotu
[18:58] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[18:58] <haxit> ccvp: I am not positive about hat but probably there is..........
[18:59] <niko_> Knofi: we have different problems then
[18:59] <ccvp> but out of the box w/ 7.10
[18:59] <david49> any aMSN experts here?
[18:59] <ccvp> it doesnt auto do 5.1
[18:59] <ccvp> if card supports it?
[18:59] <danb1235>  iositd: How?... ive booted in recovery mode
[18:59] <ccvp> defaulted to dual spaeker?
[18:59] <FloodBot2> ccvp: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:59] <haxit> david49: go ahead, just shoot out your question
[18:59] <Knofi> well , i get the error message
[18:59] <Knofi> mount.nfs: rpc.statd is not running but is required for remote locking.
[18:59] <Knofi>    Either use '-o nolocks' to keep locks local, or start statd.
[18:59] <niko_> won't even see it in /dev for me
[18:59] <ccvp> I used to use bitchx for 5+ years
[18:59] <un0p> nickrud, but where did you put those executables, if you put them in a directory that isnt in $PATH they would no longer work (and let's tell people that things break if they are tampererd with ;) )
[18:59] <azuki> nickrud: so it's possible to have more then 1 homedir ?
[18:59] <ccvp> but once i see irssi, irssi > bitchx
[18:59] <ccvp> lol
[18:59] <haxit> lawl
[19:00] <Knofi> but it does not work (unknown option/ statd is running)
[19:00] <azuki> nickrud: there isn't one in the FSTAB yet...
[19:00] <nickrud> azuki no, if you mount /home as a partition, it hides the original /home
[19:00] <david49> haxit, ty, I just installed aMSN, but when I open it to log on, I can't read anything, the characters are so small
[19:00] <iositd> ccvp, stop using the enter as punctuation mark please.
[19:00] <azuki> nickrud: ah, so I'd have to completely copy it to the new dir
[19:00] <nickrud> un0p in $HOME , precisely because it wasn't on the path
[19:00] <chi_> i really need control over that fan... before hardy burn my cpu
[19:00] <haxit> david49: Have you tried chaningn the font on aMSN?
[19:00] <Randocal> Okay, so i've unmounted that troublesome NFS share and can now navigate my filesystem via a terminal window, but when i go to launch nautilus it's not openeing, what log files would i peek into to try and see what might be failing?
[19:01] <nickrud> un0p the context was linux vs windows registries and locking apps into place
[19:01] <iositd> Randocal, it's probably still stuck at opening from before. Try this ==> ps aux | grep -i nautilus
[19:01] <azuki> I don't get it
[19:01] <_kevin> Does anyone know of a program on ubuntu that runs a simple dos attack against a host (I need to do some tests against snort... it doesn't have to be a particularly powerful attack, as long as its enough to trigger snort)
[19:01] <AlexQ> soundray: I see that you have wine?
[19:01] <david49> haxit, I dont know how to.....I cant read anything that might be a menu
[19:01] <iositd> Randocal, if it gives you output, kill those processes
[19:01] <un0p> nickrud, was $HOME in $PATH in your case (it usually isnt) ?
[19:01] <haxit> david49: Hmmm. Say your question again, but don't point it at me, because I have to go, sorry :(
[19:01] <AlexQ> soundray: Wine also doesn't wont to install itself on my PC using a normal apt-get repository
[19:02] <nickrud> un0p no, I executed it by giving the path
[19:02] <Ashfire908> I set up a stun daemon on my NAT gateway, and i set pidgin to use the gateway as the stunserver but it doesn't seem to get the external ip...
[19:02] <iositd> AlexQ, it will, though it's probably an outdated one.
[19:02] <nickrud> un0p I would *never* have home on my path, too darned dangerous ;)
[19:02] <un0p> nickrud, errm, ok, i dunno what to say but i wouldnt suggest other people do that :) goes against the very reason $PATH was implemented :)
[19:03] <Randocal> kk, perfect, thank you again =)
[19:03] <AlexQ> iositd: It doesn't work from ubuntu and also wine.budgetdedicated.com - the file /usr/bin/wine is just corrupted
[19:03] <Randocal> New windows convert, so i'm still learning the ropes. i seem to be in good shape (for now)
[19:03] <nickrud> un0p you missed the context of my first line, _for learning_ :)
[19:03] <iositd> AlexQ, though it'll take some time, try to compile it yourself?
[19:03] <niko_> any command to rescan usb devices. doubt it will work though bc i've booted with it plugged in
[19:03] <un0p> nickrud, ok, but still :)
[19:04] <amenado> how do I remove or rather add a filter to CUPS so it does not do staircase printing? and where is that added?
[19:04] <haxit> I fixed my problem, thanks
[19:04] <Mr_Sonoma> anyone seen a problem with the cups wrapper dropping for a lack of better term when someone attempts to print from another computer? basically what happens is......when i view the printers in cups BEFORE the vista machine tries to print it shows connected and ready, prints every time from my machine (the host) then AFTER the vista machine attempts a print the printer shows as "disconnected" in cups and will que but not print ANYTHING from e
[19:04] <Mr_Sonoma> ither machine. suggestions????
[19:04] <leon_pegg> does anyone know if gapti is broken in gutsy (knows it is in hardy)
[19:04] <chi_> help, temperature on cpu is too high ... need to increase cpu-fan speed
[19:04] <AlexQ> iositd: I have problem with gcc - it doesn't want to make 32bit apps (i have to install an special package, which doesn't want do couse of errors, also build-dep doesn't work).
[19:04] <soundray> AlexQ: yes, wine works fine here
[19:05] <soundray> AlexQ: did you upgrade to gutsy from feisty?
[19:05] <iositd> chi_, that sounds like a problem. Perhaps that the settings in your mobo would allow you to set a higher fan speed (they do for me)
[19:05] <Fade2Black> is there a restricted fotmat site where i can download all the audio/video codecs i need
[19:05] <nickrud> azuki think of it like this:  you have a list of directories vertically on a piece of paper:   /boot , /etc , /usr , /home . Now, you cut a new piece of paper that has /home on it, and put it over the /home on the original list. The old one still exists, but isn't seen. That's what happens when you mount a partition at /home
[19:05] <iositd> AlexQ, that makes it sound like a problemm.
[19:05] <iositd> AlexQ, what error?
[19:05] <danb1235>  iositd, how can i remove the bluetooth services?
[19:05] <cchild> un0p i use the following "truecrypt /dev/sda3 /mnt/myfat" to mount a truecrypt fat drive but users can't write to it. how do i do this?
[19:05] <iositd> danb1235, google? i have no idea from the top of my head. sorry.
[19:06] <AlexQ> soundray: No, i didnt. I also read it in the tutorial ;)
[19:06] <Iz> molis katevasa to frostwire , to ekana install alla gia kapoio logo den leei na anixei oses fores k an to patiso :S
[19:06] <michael__> how do i keep something trying to update
[19:06] <iositd> michael__, set the version in synaptic/
[19:06] <iositd> ?
[19:06] <kditty> anyone have a code to put the 8.4 release on a myspace page? it seems it blocks out JS
[19:06] <un0p> cchild, i'm not at all familiar with truecrypt, sorry
[19:06] <speps> hey guys during siptoolbox compilation last version i get /usr/local/include/ImageMagick/magick/exception.h:134: error: expected identifier or '(' before 'char'. PLEASE HELP
[19:06] <danb1235>  iositd: ok
[19:06] <niko_> any idea why it will not recognize a portable hdd? should i try formatting it to something like fat32? (i have to use it in winblows too)
[19:06] <AlexQ> iositd: Huh, now the build-dep'
[19:06] <michael__> iositd: i uninstalled the program
[19:06] <cchild> un0p, no problem thanks
[19:06] <iositd> michael__, then how can it try to update?
[19:07] <iositd> AlexQ, ?
[19:07] <jamie> hi all
[19:07] <AlexQ> iositd: Huh, now the build-dep's are OK. But they weight 292 MB
[19:07] <chi_> i really need control over that fan... before hardy burn my cpu
[19:07] <iositd> AlexQ, for wine they're fairly heavy yes.
[19:07] <michael__> iositd: look at my update http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62338/
[19:07] <soundray> chi_: how hot is it?
[19:07] <niko_> can you wine the winblows file manager perhaps?
[19:08] <redtide_> i can see my razer barracuda ac-1 soundcard in the device manager. can someone please help me to get it to work?
[19:08] <niko_> i really need to get the portable hdd working
[19:08] <Root> iositd: or how do i get the said prgram to update
[19:08] <beast> hello
[19:08] <jamie> anyone any idea if i can download a firmware update for nintendo wii to play backup dvds like a modchip
[19:08] <AlexQ> iositd: After it try to compile it, yeah? OK, thanks, ill try, but now, bye and thanks for help!
[19:08] <chi_> soundray:  i dont know, because lm_sensors does not wort ... but ist pretty hot on the outside and the temperature is incresing
[19:08] <Fade2Black> ? restricted
[19:08] <soundray> niko_: just so you know, your creative spelling keeps me from answering your question
[19:08] <brian> Jamie: How is that related at all to Ubuntu?
[19:08] <niko_> sorry
[19:08] <francesco> Dear friends. I have a problem. I don't remember the program that I must run in the terminal to set the volume control. Could you help me please?
[19:08] <beast> I am new to linux
[19:09] <niko_> any ideas for "windows" then?
[19:09] <jamie> its not
[19:09] <soundray> chi_: if you have hardy, please ask in #ubuntu+1
[19:09] <soundray> !fstab | niko_
[19:09] <ubotu> niko_: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[19:09] <beast> so can anyone tell me what to download from the the links that appears wen i click the download button
[19:09] <soundray> !gparted | niko_
[19:09] <ubotu> niko_: GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[19:09] <niko_> ty. i will try this
[19:09] <iositd> michael_ well it sounds like some other process is using it or you've locked the database.
[19:09] <bio> hola
[19:09] <brian> jamie: Then why the heck would you as it in #ubuntu? Seems like you wouldn't find much help in here.
[19:09] <chi_> soundray:  okay thx
[19:09] <soundray> !fat32 > niko_ (private message)
[19:10] <beast> is it the alternate  Alternate install CD for PC
[19:10] <J-Unit> im almost done sharing my dial-up internet I THINK (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharing?) i dont get wat to fill in the "blanks" for the clients in the terminal commands, it should be an easy to answer question for anybody plz help me tho
[19:10] <Root> iositd: any idea on how to unlock it ?
[19:10] <jamie> ok any idea how i can run windows 360 share in wine
[19:10] <iositd> !aptfix | root
[19:10] <ubotu> root: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[19:10] <beast> or is it Desktop CD for PC
[19:10] <SexyGirL> #ChatworLD
[19:10] <SexyGirL> #ChatworLD
[19:10] <mrserii> what i need to type in the termonal to add ftp users (name: arni2 pwd 123)  to directory /media/sda/
[19:10] <soundray> beast: normally you'd get the Desktop Install CD. Alternate is for special cases
[19:11] <Teoz> everything I put into /etc/rc.local should boot up right ? so if put something        #!/bin/bash     on the first line and then        su iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport ssh -j ACCEPT, that should add something the to iptables chain, right ?
[19:11] <ali1234> how exactly does the ubuntu installer decide how much swap space to create? what is the exact formula it uses?
[19:11] <beast> so that means it would be ok if idownload the Desktop CD
[19:11] <mc-george> anyone know the french ubuntu channel?
[19:11] <smoog> u mean
[19:11] <soundray> !fr | mc-george
[19:11] <ubotu> mc-george: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[19:11] <smoog> frubuntu
[19:11] <iositd> !fr | mc-george
[19:11] <algyz> ali1234:  create it by yourself
[19:11] <mc-george> !fr
[19:11] <ali1234> algyz: create what?
[19:11] <francesco> I have a problem. This morning everything was OK, but now I can't hear any sound. I think I must set the volume control by the terminal, but don't know how. Could somebody help me?
[19:12] <stefano__> i want to save my data redundantly, should i go with raid or rsync? whats the ups and downs of each of those?
[19:12] <algyz> ali1234:  swap
[19:12] <b4l74z4r> something strange happened, i installed some updates to ubuntu yesterday and when i rebooted my grub menu had gotten two new menu entries
[19:12] <Strife89> Quick {NON-UBUNTU} question: what is the command for getting open the box to configure Wine?
[19:12] <Skitt> francesco: alsamixer ?
[19:12] <soundray> Strife89: winecfg
[19:12] <ivanoats> how do I fix "Err http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/main php5-common 5.1.2-1ubuntu3.9 404 Not Found" when doing apt-get install phpmyadmin
[19:12] <Strife89> Thanks.
[19:12] <ivanoats> is it something like my sources are out of date?
[19:13] <brian> I've been using 7.10 for a few months, but just the last couple of days, "nm-applet" asks me for my keyring password whenever I log in. Is there a way to turn it off? It never used to do this
[19:13] <ali1234> algyz: ok. how big should i make it? how big would the installer have made it?
[19:13] <charims> I have a little pet project here, a motherboar dwithout a rj45 connector. I was wondering if it is possible to use the db25 connecter(which i don't use) as an ethernet connection, becuase i do have a db25 to rj45 adapter.
[19:13] <Supaplex> is the ubuntu dvd offered by dell identical to the one available publicly?
[19:13] <algyz> !swap | ali1234
[19:13] <ubotu> ali1234: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[19:13] <francesco> Skitt: Thank you. I still can't understand why my audio doesn't work. I have a double partition, and in Windows XP it works.
[19:13] <speps> hey guys during siptoolbox compilation last version i get /usr/local/include/ImageMagick/magick/exception.h:134: error: expected identifier or '(' before 'char'. PLEASE HELP
[19:13]  * d3imuDdaH has torubles with nvidia+wine+steam... would be happy over help... cant change the resolution in condition zero
[19:14] <MaDDoG185> hello all im having trouble with multimixing
[19:14] <ali1234> algyz: completely unhelpful
[19:14] <soundray> speps: you might have to switch the default shell from dash to bash. sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash
[19:15] <charims> I have a db25(parallel) to rj45(ethernet) adapter, anyone know how to configure it in ubuntu to work?
[19:15] <brian> ali1234: Near the top of the link ubotu sent you: If you have n Mb of ram, you need between n and 2*n Mb of swap. If you have a disk big enough, just put 2*n Mb swap.
[19:15] <francesco> Skitt: Everything seems to be OK in alsamix. What could the problem be?
[19:16] <speps> soundray: ???
[19:16] <iositd> brian, so someone with 8 gb ram would use between 8gb and 16gb swap? sounds like overkill
[19:16] <phobes> Anyone know of a way to diagnose global keyboard shortcut conflicts?
[19:16] <conb123> hi im using ubuntu 8.04 and my sound doesn't seem to be working is there a way i can revert to 7.10 without losing any of my files
[19:16] <ali1234> brian: NOT helpful. i have 4 gb of ram and only 20gb disk. i want to know a) how big the installer would make swap in this case, b) if i *really* need at least 4gb swap partition
[19:16] <soundray> speps: if I wasn't clear, can you be bothered to ask me a proper question?
[19:17] <charims> I have a db25(parallel) to rj45(ethernet) adapter, anyone know how to configure it in ubuntu to work?
[19:17] <brian> iositd: Hey, thats just what help.ubuntu.com says :) Besides, if you have THAT much RAM, your likely doing more then an average user :P In which case you'd need more swap then an average user.
[19:17] <zarath> hello - how can I specify additional startup files when executing a new bash shell?  I want to run a "subshell" from my normal login shell and I want to force that subshell (only) to source a setup file with aliases, a PS1 prompt, etc... I can't seem to figure that out
[19:17] <speps> soundray: i don't understand how that can be related to my issue. i get /usr/local/include/ImageMagick/magick/exception.h:134: error: expected identifier or '(' before 'char'.
[19:18] <Supaplex> swapd for the win
[19:18] <iositd> brian, i'm doing more then the average user, i know that. Yet i only have 3gb ram and no swap file. I've never even hit the 2gb bar so far, even when i try to go over it.
[19:18] <b4l74z4r> after i updated, i get two new entries in grub referring to a newer kernel, does that mean that the older kernel menu entries have become obsolete and safe to delete from the list?
[19:18] <brian> ali1234: I THINK it uses that formula to decide. So it would put 4-8gb of swap. But unless your actually doing a lot of things at once, you probably won't need that much.
[19:19] <soundray> speps: I see, you're probably right. I thought it was a shell error.
[19:19] <ali1234> i know for a fact that i wont use more than 1gb of swap. i only bought the new ram because i was sick of having to decide between using firefox, and using anything else, with 512 mb.
[19:19] <void^> b4l74z4r: you should remove the old kernel packages if you are sure the new kernel works fine for you.
[19:19] <whileimhere> Afternoon! I was wondering if anyone else has heard why Google Earth crashes X in Ubuntu 7.10 and higher?
[19:19] <b4l74z4r> void^, how do i remove these older kernel packages?
[19:20] <brian> iositd: It's not a perfect solution for everyone, I'm just saying, for MOST people, it seems like a reasonable one, and help.ubuntu.com seems to agree. :P
[19:20] <void^> b4l74z4r: using apt-get, or synaptics, or adept, or whatever
[19:20] <Randocal> Is there a way to import Outlook Express messages/address books into Thunderbird installed on Ubuntu?
[19:20] <conb123> hi im using ubuntu 8.04 and my sound doesn't seem to be working is there a way i can revert to 7.10 without losing any of my files
[19:20] <brian> ali1234: In that case, just make a 1gb swap, if you know you won't ever need more.
[19:20] <b4l74z4r> void^,  what should i delete?
[19:20] <iositd> brian, it's far from a perfect solution imo
[19:21] <void^> b4l74z4r: search for linux-image and remove the versions you no longer use.
[19:21] <ali1234> brian: but all docs say i need between n and n*2. 1 < n... is there anything that specifically needs n? for example, suspend to disk? or does that use a different file?
[19:22] <b4l74z4r> void^, but haven't they been automatically removed when i ran update manager to install the available updates?
[19:22] <void^> b4l74z4r: no, kernel packages aren't removed automatically (so you can boot an old kernel in case of problems with the new version)
[19:22] <ali1234> i see that i can now create swap files instead of partitions... so it doesn't even matter that much :/
[19:23] <brian> ali1234: From that same page again: The hibernation feature (suspend-to-disk) writes out the contents of the memory to the swap partition before turning off the machine. Therefore, your swap partition should be at least as big as your RAM size. The hibernation implementation currently used in Ubuntu, swsusp, needs a swap or suspend partition, and can not use a swap file on an active file system.
[19:23] <b4l74z4r> void^, i see, but is it necessary to remove them or can i just leave them there?
[19:24] <new_to_linux> hello room, i need some help on my ubuntu box
[19:24] <winter_mute> hey, does anyone know how to remove the rhythmbox configuration? it keeps segfaulting and that's about the only thing I can think about causing it at this point.
[19:24] <J-Unit> on connection sharing wiki it tells me to repalce x and to replace ip wat do i replace x with and wat ip do i put? im sure its easy to find out, but im stupid :( plz plz plz help me :( (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharing?)
[19:24] <void^> b4l74z4r: you can leave them of course - just wastes a lot of diskspace
[19:24] <new_to_linux> is there anyone avalible to help me?
[19:24] <bobbob1016> How can I force an unmount?
[19:24] <jacob_> how do i use the highlight tool in adobe reader?
[19:24] <Survivorman> new_to_linux, just ask your question
[19:25] <b4l74z4r> void^, ok thanks, i will remove them eventually, i just wanted to make sure there was no hurry
[19:25] <steven__> nick /xteven
[19:25] <DIL> new_to_linux: ask
[19:25] <conb123> hi im using ubuntu 8.04 and my sound doesn't seem to be working is there a way i can revert to 7.10 without losing any of my files
[19:26] <new_to_linux> Survivorman: ok, I want to beable to use my keyboard to incress / decress the volume on my ubuntu install here from my keyboard.  Any idea on how to fix that?
[19:26] <IndyGunFreak> conb123: no
[19:26] <bobbob1016> Nevermind, I thought umount -f might format, but umount -f is the command.
[19:26] <cristi1990> hy, how do change permissions of an application? it says there i have to be logged in as root. how do i do that?
[19:26] <bobbob1016> conb123, Yes
[19:26] <IndyGunFreak> new_to_linux: system/preferences/keyboard shortcuts
[19:26] <iositd> bobbob1016, use umount -lf, it  kind of unmounts lazy
[19:27] <IndyGunFreak> bobbob1016: there is?...lol
[19:27] <IndyGunFreak> i'd love to hear it
[19:27] <conb123> how?
[19:27] <bobbob1016> IndyGunFreak, Without losing his files, as in home dir?
[19:27] <IndyGunFreak> conb123: i wouldn't get your hopes up
[19:27] <brian> On 7.10, the last few days, whenever I login, "nm-applet" asks me for the password for the keyring. It didn't start doing that until a few days ago(Been usin 7.10 for a few months). Is there a way to make it stop asking?
[19:27] <new_to_linux> IndyGunFreak: Im there, now what?
[19:27] <IndyGunFreak> bobbob1016: well, if he has a separate partition for /home, its possible, but i'd say thats unlikely
[19:27] <bobbob1016> conb123, Without losing your home directory, or without losing ANY files?
[19:27] <IndyGunFreak> new_to_linux: you can't tell?... see where it says, "volume up/down".... assign keys to it
[19:28] <conb123> any files
[19:28] <un0p> conb123, the only way it to reinstall the system (without formatting any of the volumes)
[19:28] <IndyGunFreak> conb123: this is a good lesson in why when you're inexperienced, you shouldn't mess w/ Beta's
[19:28] <new_to_linux> IndyGunFreak: I have done this alrdy, it does not work
[19:28] <IndyGunFreak> new_to_linux: then i don';t know, sorry
[19:28] <charims> anyone have any ideas concerning how to use a db25(parallel) to rj45(ethernet) adapter as a nic?
[19:29] <bobbob1016> conb123, The easiest would be just to copy the files to another drive.  I agree with IndyGunFreak though, there is no way to save ALL files, your home directory yes, programs and things no, settings you can save though.
[19:29] <cvd-pr> Nvidia car enable, status = not in use? what the hell is that? something enable but not in use?
[19:29] <IndyGunFreak> conb123: why did you upgrade to hardy?
[19:29] <conb123> err im using the 2.6.24-12-generic kernel should i just downgrade kernel have you heard of people having problems with sound in that kerne;
[19:29] <conb123> ^kernel
[19:29] <IndyGunFreak> !downgrade | conb123
[19:29] <ubotu> conb123: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[19:30] <IndyGunFreak> conb123: how many languages do you need it in, you can't do it
[19:30] <new_to_linux> i have assigned the buttons there for volume up, down & mute, I see the volume bar go up & down and even mute; but there is no king in the level of the playing music
[19:30] <bobbob1016> conb123, You should just reinstall.  You'll be MUCH better off.
[19:30] <conb123> i know i just mean the kernel
[19:30] <bobbob1016> conb123, Well better off than doing a kernel downgrade
[19:30] <KjetilK> On http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=46678 it is suggested that one starts x with startx with -- -logverbose 6 to help debug, but X just respawns at once when I kill, I haven't figured how I would do that
[19:30] <new_to_linux> is the keyboard shortcuts broke?
[19:30] <IndyGunFreak> conb123: i think only you know what you mean
[19:30] <conb123> it could be the kernel causing the problem with sound
[19:30] <IndyGunFreak> new_to_linux: not to my knowledge
[19:30] <IndyGunFreak> conb123: whats your sound device
[19:30] <new_to_linux> well then..wtf
[19:30] <brian> On 7.10, the last few days, whenever I login, "nm-applet" asks me for the password for the keyring. It didn't start doing that until a few days ago(Been usin 7.10 for a few months). Is there a way to make it stop asking?
[19:31] <KjetilK> it would be nice if I could set the loglevel in the xorg.conf, but all suggestions welcome
[19:31] <new_to_linux> so am i in the right place for support?
[19:31] <conb123> a realtek alc880
[19:31] <conb123> have you heard of problems with that
[19:31] <tmaleshfske> Did you recently use keyring to store some passwords
[19:31] <mannex> My X11 works fine on Gutsy, but I get "No screens found" on Edgy. What info/configs/pkgs can I exam from Gutsy to make my X11 work correctly on Edgy?
[19:31] <cvd-pr> ?
[19:31] <IndyGunFreak> conb123: that doesn't sound like a sound device, that sounds like an
[19:31] <sainzeo> hey everyone - i have an install of ubuntu server on a virtual machine, but it stalls at running local scripts - any ideas?
[19:32] <new_to_linux> <--needs some ubuntu help
[19:32] <IndyGunFreak> conb123: open a terminal and run "lspci" no quotes, and see how it identifies your sound device
[19:32] <tmaleshfske> such as a ftp server that you want to connect to?
[19:32] <chaos_> CHAOS
[19:32] <hiddensoul> mannex, try checking /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:32] <bobbob1016> conb123, Yes it very well could.  But downgrading the kernel is something you should not do, as a few others have said.  I would suggest installing gutsy, and when you install, do custom, and have /home on a separate partition.  That way when you reinstall, you just loose programs, but not settings or anything
[19:32] <IndyGunFreak> new_to_linux: we're not stupid, we've answered youk just repeating yourself isn't goin to make the answer come faster
[19:32] <delamorte> hello, can any one explain why ubuntu will not load with my memory set 400mhz (g.skill pc3200) i have to run it at 333mhz but winxp run's 400+
[19:32] <charims> I have a db25(parallel) to rj45(ethernet) adapter, anyone know how to configure it in ubuntu to work?
[19:32] <conb123> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[19:32] <IndyGunFreak> conb123: most of those work in Hardy, at leas mine dones.... problems in gutsy though.
[19:32] <new_to_linux> ok, so long as there is some support that resolves this small issue
[19:33] <chaos_> HI!!!!
[19:33] <IndyGunFreak> conb123: are you sure you're using Ubuntu 8.10?
[19:33] <conb123> ive got my sound device set to alc880
[19:33] <J-Unit> IndyGunFreak, there is no ubuntu 8.10, 8.04 is still beta..
[19:33] <conb123> in preferences -> sound
[19:33] <brian> tmaleshfske: Are you talking to me? Nope, I haven't added anything new to it. If I go look at the keyring, I have one password for my wireless network(Had it for months, never changed), and thats it.
[19:34] <conb123> yes 8.04 hardy
[19:34] <bobbob1016> new_to_linux, Does your keyboard have keys for volume up and down?
[19:34] <IndyGunFreak> J-Unit: i meant 8.04
[19:34] <new_to_linux> bobbob1016: yes
[19:34] <conb123> should i change it
[19:34] <conb123> the sound settings i mean
[19:34] <erisco> I want to recursively delete all .svn directories in a directory tree... rm -rf *svn doesn't seem to grab the .svn directories in the sub directories
[19:34] <J-Unit> conb123, IndyGunFreak, o, just correcting ;)
[19:34] <new_to_linux> bobbob1016: i have a HP internet keyboard
[19:34] <erisco> can I use "find" somehow?
[19:34] <IndyGunFreak> J-_: thanks, if i need your correction, i'll be sure to ask
[19:34] <bobbob1016> new_to_linux, Not sure then, mine works.  HP Internet Keyboard isn't too specific though.
[19:34] <spudgunner> was "primary selection paste" behavior changed in a recent update?  Suddenly selecting text in gnome-terminal doesn't put it in the buffer like firefox does
[19:35] <ompaul> !support | new_to_linux
[19:35] <ubotu> new_to_linux: The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org
[19:35] <J-Unit> does clamav just scan for viruses or can it also delete or "heal" the files that are infected
[19:35] <GlenQuagmire> erisco: find . -name '*svn' -exec rm -f '{}' \;
[19:35] <charims> Anyone interested in a little experimentation with networking, please message me. Not sure if this is possible, but advice would be nice
[19:35] <FinZor> aup
[19:35] <new_to_linux> how about a "sk-2560
[19:35] <geirha> erisco: find . -type d -name '.svn' -exec echo rm -r {} \; # if that looks good, remove echo and run it again
[19:35] <FinZor> yo guys found this site on ubuntu forums..is it allowed ?
[19:35] <FinZor> http://www.freethescene.net/
[19:36] <IndyGunFreak> if you have to ask...
[19:36] <FinZor> Torrent site ^
[19:36] <FinZor> open signups
[19:36] <erisco> GlenQuagmire, thanks
[19:36] <new_to_linux> "sk-2560" is the model of this HP keyboard
[19:36] <IndyGunFreak> !spam | FinZor
[19:36] <ubotu> FinZor: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See (in a private message with the bot, /msg ubotu <keyword>): !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam, !PM, !English - And most importantly, use common sense...
[19:36] <ompaul> finalbeta, stop spamming with it
[19:36] <ivanoats> what is the apt command to figure out where apt-get installed stuff?
[19:36] <beast> hello
[19:36] <erisco> GlenQuagmire, bash is so cryptic :P
[19:36] <ivanoats> i lost php5 :-)
[19:36] <conb123> ok iset my sound to autom detect, alsa and then hda intel im going to log out then in ill be back soon if it doesn't work
[19:36] <chaos_> can any1 tell me what this is?????????????????????????????????         chaos@ubuntu:~$ '/home/chaos/Desktop/untitled folder/wine-0.9.55.tar.bz2_FILES/wine-0.9.55/tools/wineinstall'
[19:36] <conb123> bye
[19:36] <beast> can anyone tell me how to change screen resolution in KDE/Kubuntu 7.10
[19:36] <chaos_> WINE Installer v0.75
[19:36] <chaos_> You're running this from the wrong directory.
[19:36] <chaos_> Change to the Wine source's main directory and try again.
[19:36] <chaos_> chaos@ubuntu:~$
[19:36] <FloodBot2> chaos_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:36] <tmaleshfske> brian  my system does the same thing, but I have directed it to store passwords.  now when I had my wireless set-up manually it didn't do it.  Do you have your wireless network set-up manually or roaming?
[19:36] <IndyGunFreak> wtf?
[19:37] <new_to_linux> The buttons work in windows, there working now in ubuntu; but here in linux there not affecting the sound output
[19:37] <finalbeta> !paste | chaos_
[19:37] <ubotu> chaos_: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[19:37] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[19:37] <bobbob1016> new_to_linux, I'm not sure, I was just asking.  Ubuntu will usually pick up those keys if it detects them.
[19:37] <brian> tmaleshfske: Roaming. It's a laptop, so I use it at a few different places.
[19:37] <nickrud> !lol > IndyGunFreak  ;)
[19:37] <bobbob1016> new_to_linux, They're working in ubuntu?  What do you mean "here in linux"?
[19:38] <IndyGunFreak> nickrud: lol, that was actually meant for an IM...
 hello, can any one help me or explain why ubuntu will not load with my memory set 400mhz (g.skill pc3200) i have to run it at 333mhz but winxp run's 400+
[19:38]  * nickrud points IndyGunFreak to practice with alt-tab
[19:38] <new_to_linux> anyone else know how to get keys on a KB to work in ubuntu
[19:38] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[19:38] <IndyGunFreak> :)
[19:38] <nickrud> new_to_linux what keys?
[19:38] <MrSmileEG> Hi people! I think I destroyed PAM by compiling PAM newest version from source and I can't relogin again.
[19:38] <new_to_linux> bobbo : ubuntu = linux right
[19:39] <tmaleshfske> Before it started with the password for keyring did you manually have to put in your network key everytime
[19:39] <MrSmileEG> somebody can help me? I feel :(
[19:39] <new_to_linux> nickrud: the volume keys
[19:39] <geirha> !shortcuts | new_to_linux
[19:39] <ubotu> new_to_linux: Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at http://keytouch.sourceforge.net - See !Keyboard for changing layouts
[19:39] <beast> hello
[19:39] <MrSmileEG> and the last thing I want is to reinstall everything ones again.
[19:39] <MrSmileEG> Hello beast... pleaaaaaaaaase help me.
[19:39] <bobbob1016> new_to_linux, Ubuntu = Linux (which is the kernel) + Gnome + a bunch of other things I know are there, but don't know by name
[19:39] <new_to_linux> geirha: i have alrdy tried the keyboard shortcuts; it still not changing the volume output
[19:39] <MrSmileEG> Because If I logg out now, I am afraid not to come in my linux system again.
[19:39] <nickrud> MrSmileEG yup. Please tell me you haven't set a root password
[19:40] <|Dede|> Can I protect a folder with a password?
[19:40] <Survivorman> new_to_linux, try the link to keytouch that ubotu provided
[19:40] <chaos_> idk what i need to run stuff in ubuntu need help bad pm me plzzzzzzzzz
[19:40] <new_to_linux> lol i am
[19:40] <new_to_linux> i think the robot has been the most help yet
[19:40] <nickrud> MrSmileEG if you haven't set a root password, you can get into recovery mod and probably fix it
[19:41] <BrainBug> hello, iam running a proftpd server local all works fine, i have forwarded port 21 to 21 outside , when i use nmap on outside box i see proftpd is detected and state is open. But when someone goes to my external ip they get a time-out
[19:41] <beast> hello, can anyone tell me how to change the screen resolution in KDE?Kubuntu 7.10
[19:41] <theunixgeek> BrainBug: !server
[19:41] <kumarphilly> !lanugage
[19:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lanugage - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:41] <BrainBug> Beast, perhipals
[19:41] <theunixgeek> beast: #kubuntu
[19:41] <theunixgeek> !server | BrainBug
[19:41] <ubotu> BrainBug: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[19:41] <|Dede|> Can I protect a folder with a password?
[19:42] <MrSmileE1> no, everything is SUDO
[19:42] <theunixgeek> beast: type /join #kubuntu
[19:42] <BrainBug> theunixgeek ?
[19:42] <connor_> ok its me again i changed my sound preferences around now i get this error http://rafb.net/p/oDsLr037.html
[19:42] <beast> ok
[19:42] <MrSmileE1> sorry, I had been kicked out, electricity in egypt isn't stable.
[19:42] <theunixgeek> BrainBug: well, you said you're running a server :P
[19:42] <BrainBug> theunixgeek lol
[19:42] <new_to_linux> ubotu:
[19:42] <theunixgeek> mr-rich: lol
[19:42] <MrSmileE1> I just downloaded the latest release of PAM, compiled and installed it.
[19:42] <new_to_linux> !ubotu
[19:42] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[19:42] <theunixgeek> new_to_linux: type /msg ubotu message
[19:42] <bobbob1016> |Dede|, Patience is a virtue.  Repeating yourself won't get your question answered faster.
[19:42] <new_to_linux> !ubotu help
[19:42] <theunixgeek> new_to_linux: nono
[19:43] <chaos_> i hav an idea som1 help me on setin up remote acces so i see how to setup apps plzzz
[19:43] <theunixgeek> new_to_linux: /msg ubotu help
[19:43] <|Dede|> repeating it every 3 minutes actually does.
[19:43] <theunixgeek> !l33t
[19:43] <ubotu> 1337 i5 n1gh-inc0mpr3h3n5ib13 70 u5 n00bs, 4nd n0b0dy c4r35 if UR 4 1337 h4x0r. Giv3 i7 4 r357.
[19:43] <BrainBug> Beast, its K icon system i thought the perhipals screen resolution when not mentioned u have to go in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and edit it
[19:43] <MrSmileE1> Any guys an idea how to recover a PAM problem, to relogin without problems again?
[19:43] <theunixgeek> !l33t chaos_
[19:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about l33t chaos_ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:43] <theunixgeek> !l33t | chaos_
[19:43] <ubotu> chaos_: please see above
[19:43] <|Dede|> it's not like my 1 line question spams the channel...
[19:43] <beast> the problem is this is my very first time in Linux
[19:43] <bobbob1016> |Dede|, If I'm going to repeat, I don't go by time, I go by how far up I have to scroll to see the last time I asked.
[19:43] <bobbyd> hi
[19:43] <beast> and i dont know how to edit this file
[19:44] <MrSmileE1> no pro here?
[19:44] <MrSmileE1> :(
[19:44] <theunixgeek> beast: what file? :)
[19:44] <theunixgeek> MrSmileE1: what do you mean?
[19:44] <|Dede|> in this channel that's actually ~ 3 mins for me, many messages in here
[19:44] <theunixgeek> hi, bobbyd
[19:44] <bobbyd> I'm trying to set my wifi settings with iwconfig, but every time i set them, they get reset. i've killed NetworkManager, but it's still happening. Any ideas of how to fix this?
[19:44] <chaos_> what this ubuntu has no remote pc acces
[19:44] <BrainBug> Beast, then try K icon -> system -> perhipals -> screen resolution , see to what u can change it
[19:44] <PaRaSiTe2> For Ubuntu 8.04, will the 7.10 driver work for my Intel 536EP modem?
[19:45] <theunixgeek> beast: but also try #kubuntu or #kde for your future needs
[19:45] <beast> thnk u
[19:45] <Firehazrd> hey guys does anyone know what the advantage to using AHCI over IDE for a sata drive is?
[19:45] <hp> hi, my external harddrive wouldn't mount right. i try to mount it to /media/disk. but after each reboot, it mount to a different folder, and and leave the previous folder empty. this is so annoying. does anyone have a solutino to this?
[19:45] <nickrud> MrSmileE1 ok, first thing try:   reboot, hit escape when you see something about grub 1.5 on the screen. Then choose recovery mode boot. Next, run:   sudo apt-get install --reinstall libpam0g  libpam-runtime libpam-modules libpam-gnome-keyring
[19:45] <|Dede|> Can I protect a folder with a password? (not an archive)
[19:45] <theunixgeek> hp: that's because /media/disk is probably already taken. make a new mountpoint
[19:46] <nickrud> MrSmileE1 if this works, good. If not, it'll be much harder
[19:46] <charims> Anyone here familiar with PLIP?
[19:47] <nickrud> charims used it about 8 years ago, why would you need it now?
[19:47] <theunixgeek> |Dede|: I guess you could use permissions... there's no quick way to do so, however
[19:47] <charims> nickrud:I'm working on using a db25 to rj45 connector to establish a link to my home netowkr, is it possible?
[19:47] <|Dede|> No plugins neither?
[19:47] <vkusnakova> please help, what is the name of russian chanel about ubuntu?
[19:48] <theunixgeek> vkusnakova: #ubuntu-ru I think
[19:48] <theunixgeek> !russian | vkusnakova
[19:48] <ubotu> vkusnakova: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[19:48] <theunixgeek> yep :)
[19:48] <vkusnakova> tnx)
[19:48] <charims> !
[19:48] <nickrud> charims heh. No freaking clue, but I'd doubt you could use a parallel port to hook up to a serial protocol ;)
[19:48] <|Dede|> theunixgeek: No plugins neither?
[19:48] <theunixgeek> |Dede|: you could google something
[19:49] <charims> nickrud: thanks, I will look into it more, but it looks like a dead subject
[19:49] <PaRaSiTe2> For Ubuntu 8.04, will the 7.10 driver work for my Intel 536EP modem?
[19:49] <nickrud> charims plip is meant to be used between two parallel ports
[19:50] <spudgunner> was "primary selection paste" behavior changed in a recent update?  Suddenly selecting text in gnome-terminal doesn't put it in the buffer like firefox does
[19:50] <BrainBug> hello, i have forwarded my proftpd 21 -> 21 when scan outside box i see 21 is open and proftpd is running on it ; local all works fine, but ppl from outside get timeout... anyone i use a SpeedTouch
[19:50] <ompaul> charims, you would have to send serial over the parallel port it has been done but it was soooooooooo long ago
[19:50] <charims> nickrud: i see that, but I did read aobut it using tcp/ip, so thats why i was wondering
[19:51] <ompaul> charims, can't remember how it was done
[19:51] <nickrud> charims yep. But I guarantee that ompaul knows a lot more about it than I. and http://tldp.org/HOWTO/PLIP-1.html will fill you in
[19:51] <charims> ompaul: do you have any ideas of where i could look it up?
[19:52] <ompaul> charims, I can't remember anything but that link looks good
[19:52] <NekoKun> Can I specify where to install the application wich APT-GET will install?
[19:52] <charims> thanks ompaul
[19:52] <charims> and thanks nickrud ;)
[19:52] <nickrud> NekoKun why would you want to do that? apt-get locations are carefully chosen
[19:53] <DIL> charims:  not all the pins are used on the db25 you would have to ensure corresponding pins are used to correspond to rj45 pins used, if you have fire wire you can network with that
[19:53] <NekoKun> nickrud: Cause Im getting an EeePC :p
[19:54] <hp> theunixgeek, thanks
[19:54] <NekoKun> so I want to have a good space avaiable
[19:54] <charims> dil: no firewire, this is an older motherboard, and right now i have a wireless card installed, but i was hoping to go wired. I think i can jsut go and get a nic card tho. until then, i'm going to paly around with this parallel stuff and see where i can get
[19:55] <ali1234> charims: parallel isn't much faster than serial in the big scheme of things. and serial is much easier to set up
[19:56] <nickrud> NekoKun oh, well, in that case you need to read up on --instdir and --root   for dpkg
[19:56] <NekoKun> mmm
[19:56] <charims> ali1234: I don't have a connector for serial, though I'm sure i could make one. Are you aware of how it is done though?
[19:56] <NekoKun> can I set a default dir to install everything?
[19:57] <ali1234> charims: serial? just use a null modem cable and start pppd at both ends, with proxyarp. plip? no idea
[19:57] <hp> theunixgeek, hmm, even when i created another mounting point, it doesn't work
[19:57] <charims> ali1234: we were discussiong how to use parallel to ethernet connection. IT may not be possible, we aren't sure
[19:58] <ali1234> charims: i very much doubt that is possible
[19:58] <charims> ali1234: thanks
[19:58] <hp> theunixgeek, it keeps creating new folding after each reboot
[19:58] <N3WFI3> sup!
[19:59] <N3WFI3> is there like a control panel in ubuntu? i went thru all the icons i think lots of cool stuff is there more stuff to look at
[19:59] <ali1234> charims: you could run either serial or parallel over rj45, but it would have to be serial or parallel at both ends. serial will give you a greater max cable length also
[19:59] <NekoKun> I'll have a 250GB USB drive... I wonder if I could make a ln -s in the /usr/bin folder to it and then install some applications remotelly
[20:00] <NekoKun> s/in the/in a folder inside the
[20:00] <Pete__> mythplugins doesn't seem to be installable from gutsy-backports, anyone else using myth 0.21 from packages here?
[20:00] <J-Unit> how do u use clamav, i have it installed but how do i start it?
[20:00] <ali1234> J-Unit: clamscan <files>
[20:01] <J-Unit> ali1234, how do i make it scan the whole wine program?
[20:01] <CyD> hi, i have a problem with Brasero software, someone can help ?
[20:01] <ali1234> J-Unit: clamscam ~/.wine/*
[20:01] <IndyGunFreak> CyD: i never had luck w/ that program, i always would end up using gnomebaker or k3b, good luck w/ it.
[20:02] <Sensei73> hi
[20:02] <J-Unit> ali1234, doesnt work
[20:02] <CyD> ok :(
[20:02] <J-Unit> ali1234, bash: clamscam: command not found
[20:02] <suxxor> i have problems with GRUB it doesn`t show me the to load the windows . it starts directly ubuntu
[20:02] <Sensei73> i want to build a small files server based on ubuntu
[20:03] <manos21> HI, I run 7.10 upgraded to studio and i can't open dkenlive, although it's installed. Anyone could help?
[20:03] <ali1234> J-Unit: clamscan not clamscam. and you need clamscan -r ~/.wine/* to scan subdirs
[20:03] <Sensei73> but  i wonder how ubuntu handle hardrives
[20:03] <suxxor> somebody to help me?
[20:03] <ali1234> J-Unit: you might also want to run freshclam to update the definitions
[20:04] <BrainBug> no-one can help me? i use proftp forwarded 21 -> 21 when scanning outside ip , i get " 21 open proftp" what means its running... but when ppl try from outside they get a timeout?..
[20:04] <J-Unit> ali1234, freshclam doesnt work
[20:05] <KRF> BrainBug, firewall (router)?
[20:05] <BrainBug> KRF, off
[20:05] <opteroN> how can i connect to a wireless print server?
[20:05] <eax> Can someone direct me to some written files about the various Wireless Interface modes in Ubuntu?
[20:05] <ali1234> J-Unit: does it ask you to check permissions? you have to sudo it
[20:05] <KRF> BrainBug, ip? :P
[20:06] <J-Unit> ali1234, after the dont panic its blinking, does that mean its updating or do i actually have to go on their site?
[20:06] <BrainBug> KRF, pm
[20:06] <N3WFI3> does ubuntu have a control panel or somethhing?
[20:06] <eax> Does anyone have some info about various Wireless Network Interface modes?
[20:07] <N3WFI3> i wanna browse thru all the operating system and have a look lol
[20:07] <ali1234> J-Unit: like it says, don't panic
[20:07] <motebocane> ops
[20:07] <motebocane> ops please
[20:07] <joel> hi all
[20:07] <J-Unit> ali1234, ERROR: Can't lock database directory: /var/lib/clamav/
[20:07] <ali1234> J-Unit: it's already running?
[20:08] <joel> when someone gets some free time can I get some help with a mounting issue I'm having?
[20:08] <DIL> what is the file to edit a mount point
[20:08] <joel> /etc/fstab
[20:08] <DIL> ty
[20:08] <joel> is the file for mount point
[20:08] <joel> no problem
[20:09] <freewilly> suxxor , http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62348/
[20:09] <J-Unit> ali1234, i closed terminal and opened new one and it worked :)
[20:09] <joel> I'm getting a bunch of permissions problems with my external with Hardy, someone help me out?
[20:09] <J-Unit> ali1234, k, now ill scan and thx
[20:09] <Ymgve> Could somebody help me with getting a CNet CWC-854 PCMCIA wireless card working?
[20:10] <Totem> I am having trouble with my installation: A while back, I installed Ubuntu 6.* as a dual boot with Windows XP. Everything worked fine, and I really had no trouble with it. Now though, I want to install the 8.04 beta. I burned the ISO and put the disk in. The installer works fine. However, I can't figure out how to completely replace the old version of Ubuntu. I don't care about preserving and files from the 6.*. Could someone help me do 
[20:10] <J-Unit> ali1234, o ya more importantly, wats the command do scan the whole comp?
[20:10] <J-Unit> ali1234, to scan*
[20:10] <joel> just do a manual install
[20:10] <joel> when it asks about mounts or partitions
[20:10] <Adys> Totem: if you're upgrading over the old one do a dist-upgrade as recommended on the wiki
[20:10] <joel> choose your Ubuntu partition
[20:10] <BrainBug> KRF, i send u in pm
[20:10] <Adys> Totem: More chance in #ubuntu+1 too btw
[20:11] <joel> if you have no reason to keep anything on that partition I recommend formatting it
[20:11] <joel> and if you don't know how to do this I wouldn't recommend a beta release
[20:11] <joel> I'm using the beta and there are still problems with it
[20:11] <Totem> Adys: what is #ubuntu+1?
[20:11] <Adys> Totem: chan for ubuntu alphas
[20:11] <user42> exit
[20:11] <Totem> joel: how to I know which partition is the Ubuntu partition? I have about 5 different partitions
[20:12] <zcat[1]> three more weeks, approx..?
[20:12] <freewilly> fdisk -l
[20:12] <joel> fdisk won't tell you what one
[20:12] <joel> it will just list them
[20:12] <ali1234> J-Unit: clamscan -r /
[20:12] <joel> I usually can tell based on the size of the partition
[20:13] <joel> with 5 partitions you'll have your windows partition which will probably be NTFS
[20:13] <joel> a SWAP
[20:13] <joel> which will say SWAP
[20:13] <joel> then three others
[20:13] <FloodBot2> joel: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:13] <Totem> I would do that too, but I have two partitions of roughly the same size, so that doesn't help. Yes, I see swap, and I can easily identify the Windows part, but that's it
[20:13] <style23> on the gos how do you find the terminal
[20:14] <brian> Out of curiosity, would it be possible/how hard would it be to set it up so I can remotely manage a computer running 7.10? Preferably graphically. The computer I'd be managing from would also be 7.10.
[20:14] <zcat[1]> btw interesting case on saturday.. one sata drive, one IDE (secondary master) .. bios found them in the order SATA, CDROM, HDC .. boot order was to boot from SATA as well.. Ubuntu installer named IDE as sda, SATA as sdb and put GRUB on the IDE drive.. caused a lot of confusion :(
[20:15] <joel> brian what are you trying to remote connect with?
[20:16] <redtide_> does anyone here have a razer barracuda soundcard and managed to get it to work on ubuntu?
[20:16] <ali1234> brian: there's three ways to do it: ssh (shell only), vnc (gives you a whole desktop) or there's a web interface thing.
[20:16] <joel> if you are trying to remote connect with another Ubuntu machine just do this in terminal: vlcviewer ip (and make sure it's the external ip)
[20:16] <freewilly> i cant get oss4 working 2
[20:16] <ali1234> brian: actually you could tunnel X over ssh too, so that's 4 ways
[20:17] <brian> joel: I have a server thats running on 7.10, and I was just curious as to how easy it would be to change/fix stuff remotely(It's not plugged in to a monitor or anything, kinda a pain to move it around all the time)
[20:17] <Totem> joel: could I identify the Ubuntu part by its file system type?
[20:17] <ir4> Can someone help me set up wireless on ubuntu?
[20:17] <zcat[1]> and remote desktop protocol?
[20:17] <RaceKondition> I'm trying to run the start-stop-daemon command to execute /foo/bar/exe, I do start-stop-daemon --chdir /foo/bar --exec ./exe, but keeps telling me that it cannot find ./exe
[20:17] <joel> totem I just sent you a direct message it's easier than the main chat
[20:17] <RaceKondition> what could be the issue?
[20:17] <brian> ali1234: :D Awesome. How easy would those be to use? And do the 3rd and 4th option give you the whole desktop too?
[20:18] <ir4> Can someone pleaseeeee help me set up wireless?!?!?!?
[20:18] <joel> ir4 stop repeating yourself so much, I'll help in a minute let me try to help totem first
[20:18] <Totem> Joel: could you send it again? I don't think I got it
[20:18] <BrainBug> ir4, just say what the problem is or where u are stuck
[20:18] <zcat[1]> !ask | ir4
[20:18] <ir4> i did
[20:18] <ubotu> ir4: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[20:18] <zcat[1]> what card..
[20:18] <ir4> Intel PRO/Wireless 3945
[20:19] <suxxor> freewilly : what should i do this text http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62348/
[20:19] <joel> totem are you on the computer you are installing it on?
[20:19] <zcat[1]> not familiar with it... but someone here probably is
[20:19] <ir4> its supported
[20:19] <ir4> i looked it up
[20:19] <freewilly> for a dual boot
[20:19] <ir4> but i just dont know how to go about getting it to connect
[20:19] <BrainBug> ir4, not familiar for me, but try looking at /etc/network/interface
[20:19] <chaos_> need help for Feisty gaim xfire plugin
[20:19] <BrainBug> ir4, try iwconfig
[20:19] <ali1234> brian: vnc gives you a whole desktop. it's easier to set it up on windows. the web interface is accessed through a browser, but it's different to using the desktop. ssh can give you a whole desktop or just a single application
[20:19] <joanki> can anyone tell me how i can get flash appliations to run on firefox?  when i try to play it, it says i should use adobe, but it doesn't work
[20:20] <BrainBug> ir4, if u see a card eg eth1 is up try dhclient eth1
[20:20] <ir4> eth0 says no wireless extensions
[20:20] <joel> vlc is easier to set up on windows? it's way easier on Ubuntu
[20:20] <Totem> Joel: yes, I am on the same comp
[20:20] <zcat[1]> Ummmm.. how about just clicking the 'network manager' icon and seeing what networks show up there?
[20:20] <CJS3141> I have a program "arp-scan" that needs to be run as root, but I noticed that when I do a "ls -al /usr/bin/arp-scan" it returns: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 48552 2007-06-17 08:25 /usr/bin/arp-scan. That means the SUID is root, correct? So why do I need to run it as root?
[20:20] <BrainBug> ir4, k some other? like ath0 or whatever
[20:20] <joel> totem: type in sudo fdisk -l in terminal
[20:20] <brian> joel: Ah, just noticed your message about "vlcviewer ip". Would that be graphical, or all command line?
[20:20] <ir4> eth1 says
[20:20] <joel> it'll open a graphical interface
[20:20] <ir4> IEEE 802.11g
[20:20] <joel> colors might not be great, but you'll be able to manage it
[20:21] <ir4> and it shows the signal and noise levels
[20:21] <brian> joel: :D Sweet, I'll try that later. What ports would I need to forward and such?
[20:21] <ali1234> brian: it should be vncviewer
[20:21] <joel> but you have to at least once go on the server and set it up (system, preferences, remote desktop)
[20:21] <BrainBug> ir4, so thats what u need eth1
[20:21] <Totem> joel: alright, but I will have to reboot. I am running Windows; I am also having internet problems with Ubuntu, but that is another issue
[20:21] <suxxor> freewilly : to copy this text http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62348/ in  /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[20:21] <joel> 5900 is the port
[20:21] <BrainBug> ir4, try sudo dhclient eth1
[20:21] <ir4> yes so what do i do now?
[20:21] <zcat[1]> ir4: easiest way should be through network manager.. if it already knows it's a wifi adapter it should be basically working already
[20:22] <freewilly> yes, or in grub.conf, but replace it with your ubuntu kernel
[20:22] <joel> all right totem, I'll still be on so just try to copy the stuff into a text or something that is accessible in ubuntu
[20:22] <ir4> ok i did the sudo command in the terminal
[20:22] <TheTaylorEffect> what is the path to xorg.conf ?
[20:22] <BrainBug> unop_, can u do me a favor / can i pm u ?
[20:22] <joel> xorg is /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:22] <brian> ali1234: Ah, ok, thanks. So VNC would be the most similiar to the normal Ubuntu 7.10?
[20:22] <TheTaylorEffect> Thanks Joel
[20:22] <xif> what's easiest way to tile my windows on Gutsy?
[20:23] <ir4> should i be running the Automatic DHCP or the static ip address?
[20:23] <zcat[1]> why is everyone obsessed with doing everything the hard way, in a terminal... we have all these cool GUI tools now.
[20:23] <freewilly> grub sees the disks as hd(x,x)
[20:23] <brian> joel: Ah, okay, thanks :D I'll set that up later today.
[20:23] <ali1234> brian: it will give you a full desktop
[20:23] <BrainBug> ir4, try dhcp first
[20:23] <ir4> ok
[20:23] <joel> most similar to the normal Ubuntu Gutsy? not sure what that means but yeah it's pretty straightforward, you might have to do an apt-get for vlcviewer
[20:23] <BrainBug> ir4, later when u know how to work with it try static
[20:23] <dotech> zcat[1]: what gui irc client is as good as irssi?
[20:23] <scrav> ive configured apache and the html works fine, but i cant get the cgi to work, denied permission :S
[20:23] <joanki> can anyone tell me how i can get flash appliations to run on firefox?  when i try to play it, it says i should use adobe, but it doesn't work
[20:23] <ir4> ok i went to the network settings
[20:23] <ir4> and it shows the wired connection, wireless connection and the modem connection
[20:24] <joel> here are instructions for flash http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/flash
[20:24] <WinterWeaver> anyone know how to fix my Pidgin from dropping my google chat connection constantly? (only started happening in Hardy Beta)
[20:24] <ir4> it shows my essid: as Chris_Net18 like i typed in
[20:24] <alx75775> hi! little prob here, i formatted a hdd, mounted it but still cannot write on it.. anyone an idea how to solve this? thanks! mount gives me this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62351/
[20:24] <ir4> and then the address says DHCP
[20:24] <cory_> hey i have an acer x191w monitor and i am running ubuntu on my toshiba laptop i would like to have my acer monitor to work but it won;t let me activate it its disabled.....
[20:24] <joel> it's a bug I believe that's being worked on for pidgin
[20:24] <ali1234> brian: for ssh you do this: 'ssh -X <your server>' you'll log in and get a shell. any graphical programs you run will appear on your local display. try running an xterm. this can be more efficient, but also more confusing
[20:24] <Totem> joel: what is fdisk?
[20:24] <brian> ali1234: YAY! Thanks :) I'll go set it up later today.
[20:24] <BrainBug> ir4, that would be eth1 - your wireless try going online now or ping www.google.com
[20:24] <freewilly> did you craete a filesystem
[20:24] <joel> well fdisk can be used for a lot of things, with -l it just lists the partitions
[20:24] <joanki> can anyone tell me how to get adobe flash player?
[20:24] <joel> joanki I just sent a link
[20:24] <zcat[1]> dotech: my USB wifi I just plugged it in, clicked on network manager and choose the name of my AP from the list .. then it asked for my WEP password and stored it in a gnome keyring for me.. the only frustrating part is that the gnome keyring has to have a password, so I still have to type a password every time it connects ...
[20:24] <RaceKondition> I'm trying to run the start-stop-daemon command to execute /foo/bar/exe, I do start-stop-daemon --chdir /foo/bar --exec ./exe, but keeps telling me that it cannot find ./exe
[20:24] <joel> it's straight forward
[20:25] <ir4> but see i have a cord in
[20:25] <xif> what's easiest way to tile my windows on Gutsy?
[20:25] <ir4> so of course it is going to let me go to google
[20:25] <joanki> THANKS joel
[20:25] <BrainBug> ir4, try ifconfig
[20:25] <joel> sure thing joanki
[20:25] <zcat[1]> but as far as connecting goes.. click an icon, choose your AP, all done.
[20:25] <ir4> if i take the cord out, its going to kick me off here
[20:25] <CJS3141> joanki: Have you tried synaptic?
[20:25] <ir4> what do i need to look for under the ifconfig
[20:25] <dotech> zcat[1]: i don't know anything about that, sorry
[20:25] <BrainBug> ir4, put down the cable network eg ifdown eth0 (to get it back up try ifup eth0)
[20:25] <brian> ali1234: So the programs would all run and show up on my computer, but I'd hafta open em with command line?
[20:26] <cory_> \how to i extend my desktop onto my acer screen? i'm runing on a laptop
[20:26] <alx75775> joel, could u help me? seems you re quite familiar with partitioning..
[20:26] <alx75775> hi! little prob here, i formatted a hdd, mounted it but still cannot write on it.. anyone an idea how to solve this? thanks! mount gives me this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62351/
[20:26] <joanki> CJS3141, what does that mean
[20:26] <zcat[1]> ir4: ifconfig eth1 -- if it shows an IPv4 address in there somewhere it's working
[20:26] <joel> alx75775 what's the issue?
[20:26] <ali1234> brian: yeah. it's just personal preference really. ssh has the benefit of being encrypted too :)
[20:26] <alx75775> the problem is that i cannot write on the disk
[20:26] <Totem> joel: I can see the partitions by running the Ubuntu 8.04 liveCD. Do you want me to list what they are? What should I do after I see the paritions?
[20:26] <ali1234> brian: but you can tunnel vnc over ssh if security if a problem
[20:26] <ir4> it says command not found
[20:27] <BrainBug> ir4, /sbin/ifconfig or try sudo ifconfig
[20:27] <brian> ali1234: Basically, I have a little filesharing server(Legal stuff, of course :P) for me and a few friends, so I just need to go in, see some thumbnails for the files, and delete all the crap they'll put on it :P So vnc would be easier methinks?
[20:27] <CJS3141> joanki: Go to the menuSystem > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager and search for "flash"...
[20:27] <ir4> no the ifconfig worked
[20:27] <joel> alx can you wait just a few, I'm going to finish helping totem
[20:27] <ir4> the ifdown eth0 thing didnt work
[20:27] <joel> totem look in the last column
[20:27] <alx75775> sure
[20:27] <ali1234> brian: maybe just install webdav or something for that
[20:27] <CJS3141> joanki: ooops I meant go to the menu "System" ...
[20:27] <ricanelite> anyone here has any experience with Envy?
[20:27] <brian> ali1234: Just double checking, but its "vncviewer IPADDRESSHERE" and it works?
[20:28] <Totem> joel: did you get me PM?
[20:28] <brian> ali1234: :O Whats webdav
[20:28] <ali1234> brian: you have to start the server at the remote end too i think
[20:28] <iositd> !envy | ricanelite
[20:28] <ubotu> ricanelite: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[20:28] <joel> you should see the system type, it'll be "Linux" for your linux partition
[20:28] <BrainBug> ir4, ah k but u can see or your wireless works by ifconfig eth1 see or it has an IP adress if it has your good
[20:28] <ali1234> brian: webdav is like a file browser through a web browser
[20:28] <Totem> joel: ok, then when I install, how to I select to install over the old partition?
[20:28] <zcat[1]> brian: my solution for shared directories: sudo mkdir /home/shared ; sudo chown nobody:nogroup /home/shared ; sudo chmod a+rwxs /home/shared   -- everyone can write, all files end up oned by nobody:nogroup with full read/write access to everybody else
[20:28] <ir4> yes it says int addr: 192.168.1.102
[20:28] <joel> is there nothing on there that you need?
[20:29] <BrainBug> ir4, good it works fine now
[20:29] <ir4> then it shows the broadcast and the default mask
[20:29] <Totem> nothing
[20:29] <BrainBug> ir4,yes normal :)
[20:29] <ir4> but i still have the hard cord in
[20:29] <joel> is there only one linux system in the list?
[20:29] <ir4> so ur telling me if i take the hard internet cord out that i should be able to run off wireless?
[20:29] <BrainBug> ir4, look in /etc/network/inferface
[20:30] <visik7> is there a way to setup the second monitor as a workspace ?
[20:30] <brian> ali1234: But does webdav have thumbnails for stuff? Mainly pdfs and pictures. Also, what didja mean by I have to start the server at the remote end too?
[20:30] <zcat[1]> ir4: yep. but you'll have to reconnect to IRC  after you unplug it
[20:30] <ir4> how do i get to that
[20:30] <BrainBug> ir4, there u can configure, but for that i recommend google :P cause really depends
[20:30] <ali1234> brian: vnc has a client and a server... you have to start the server... on the server
[20:30] <Prez00> anyone gotten a lenovo x300 running Ubuntu?
[20:30] <ir4> well shouldnt i have a icon on my desktop that shows wireless signal or something?
[20:30] <iositd> what section holds the driver on xorg.conf ?
[20:30] <BrainBug> zcat[1], can i pm u just to test something?
[20:30] <ali1234> brian: as for webdav, it should have thumbnails if it's half decent :)
[20:30] <joel> if there is only the one "Linux" system in the list doing fdisk -l you should take note of the Device Boot "/dev/sda#" and then when you are installing hardy just select that partiton
[20:30] <brian> zcat[1]: http://www.haxial.com/products/kdx/ <My solution for sharing stuff with friends :) Haha. Works really well, easy to set up. Plus, we're all commandlineretarded.
[20:31] <Totem> joel: I don't think there is a system that says Linux, but I haven't tried with that fdisk command yet.
[20:31] <joanki> joel, that link worked - THANKS
[20:31] <brian> ali1234: Ah, kay :) I'll see if vncviewer works good, if not, I'll look into webdav. Thanks a bunch
[20:31] <joel> sure thing joanki
[20:31]  * Prez00 is thinking about upgrading his x61 to x300, but wants to hear about x300 use under Linux
[20:31] <joel> as for totem, you should have at least one that says "linux" in system, I've never seen that it doesn't
[20:31] <CJS3141> can anyone help me understand why I have to run a program as root when the SUID for the program is root all ready?
[20:31] <DIL> ir4, network manger
[20:31] <zcat[1]> ir4: next time around I recomend network manager.. the little 'network' icon on your panel .. there should be a list of access points available when you click on it, just pick yours and it should all go
[20:32] <ir4> WAIT on eth1 it says RX packets 243, errors 12 dropped 343
[20:32] <Totem> joel: thanks for the help, i
[20:32] <alx75775> joel, ur done? =)
[20:32] <Totem> ll try it!
[20:32] <joel> okay then you can do one of two things
[20:32] <joel> you can either format it and then select the drive do "edit" and make the mount point "/"
[20:32] <joel> or you can delete that partition, make a new partition with the space and again make the mount point "/"
[20:32] <Shubbar> is 6.06 more stable than 7.10 ?
[20:32] <Totem> oh, ok
[20:33] <Totem> what about swap?
[20:33] <joel> Shubbar, no it's not
[20:33] <joel> you can leave swap
[20:33] <Totem> alright
[20:33] <Totem> thanks
[20:33] <joel> it'll treat it as swap in HH or GG
[20:33] <Shubbar> joel, so why is it the LTS
[20:33] <Seven_Six_Two> is there a way to find out why 2 instances of python (reported as being started by kdeinit) are using all of my available cpu?
[20:33] <ir4> my eth1 says errors on the packet
[20:33] <ir4> it says it has 12 errors
[20:34] <Totem> ok, bye, I have to restart now
[20:34] <gorbierd> hey
[20:34] <gorbierd> what should i use to open 7zip archive?
[20:34] <zcat[1]> ir4: that's normal I think.. wifi gets interference from all over the place, other wifi, cordless phones... it just resends the error packets
[20:34] <Seven_Six_Two> ubotu! python
[20:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about python - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:34] <joel> from my understanding GG is LTS also just doesn't list it that way any more now that it's becoming a main linux release they are trying not to confuse people
[20:34] <ir4> ok one more question
[20:35] <Seven_Six_Two> ubotu! python cpu
[20:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about python cpu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:35] <joel> sorry to whoever this is to, I know that there was another question that I said I would help with
[20:35] <Shubbar> my ubuntu hangs up, shuts down abruptly, i loss wireless connection, and i still cannot print on my printer
[20:35] <meoblast001> hello..... the #fedora room wont let me in anymore so i need to know if anyone here knows how to get commands to run on startup on FC7.... i know im stupid for asking here.... but this is the only other place i know of to ask
[20:35] <zcat[1]> anyhow if it doesn't work you can just plug the wire back in and ask for more hwlp :)
[20:35] <ali1234> Seven_Six_Two: investigating /proc might help you
[20:35] <ir4> i has 6.06 and i updated to 7.10, and it had like files during the installation that it asked me to skip or whatever, should i have skipped them or installed them?
[20:35] <ir4> had*
[20:35] <gorbierd> ubotu! 7zip
[20:35] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[20:35] <Seven_Six_Two> ali1234, no prob. it's a big dir. any suggestions on how to narrow it down?
[20:35] <alx75775> yeah joel, there was =)
[20:35] <joel> alx you there?
[20:35] <joel> there you are
[20:35] <alx75775> jep
[20:36] <joel> okay so you don't have permissions to what?
[20:36] <ali1234> Seven_Six_Two: yes get the PID of the offending processes and look in /proc/<PID>
[20:36] <alx75775>  i formatted a hdd, mounted it but still cannot write on it.. anyone an idea how to solve this? thanks! mount gives me this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62351/
[20:36] <meoblast001> change of plan
[20:36] <sorto> I've got a strange problem - when copying files via FTP between 2 ubuntu machines each time I upload a file theres like a 5 second pause between the issue of the 'put' command and the file starting uploading. Once the upload starts its very fast. What could be causing this?
[20:36] <BrainBug> ir4, depend on what files, and what u need, but skip cant hurt when u have an error missing something just apt-get install <file>
[20:36] <olpcsyd> #olpc-support
[20:36] <Seven_Six_Two> ali1234, cool. thanks
[20:36] <meoblast001> im switching my server to Ubuntu today...... FC7 sucks
[20:36] <Shubbar> i i think the shutting downs are from nvidia card
[20:36] <ir4> ok to run wireless do i need ndiswrapper?
[20:36] <ali1234> Seven_Six_Two: in there you can see things like every file the script has open and stuff. so maybe you can figure out what it's doing
[20:36] <alx75775> joel: i tried to make a textfile, but it failed
[20:36] <ir4> or packet manager?
[20:36] <joel> alx what is it that you are trying to mount? an external?
[20:36] <xrhstaraspatra> help me
[20:37] <xrhstaraspatra> HELP!
[20:37] <zcat[1]> ir4: depends.. if you have some special config you want to keep, skip .. usually replace. But it doesn't seem to mayyer much which you pick, the default config usually doesn't change much
[20:37] <alx75775> no its an internal hdd
[20:37] <BrainBug> ir4, no cause all works like it is now
[20:37] <xrhstaraspatra> HELP
[20:37] <fevel>   hello
[20:37] <riko> hallo
[20:37] <xrhstaraspatra> hello
[20:37] <joel> do you know the device? like the /dev/sda# (do you know the # of it)
[20:37] <alx75775> joel its internal hdd, was ntfs but i formatted it with qparted to ext3
[20:37] <TheTaylorEffect> I love my 7.10 Server - its so reliable, I don't even remember where I put it in my basement...
[20:37] <xrhstaraspatra> help with ati radeon hd2400
[20:37] <alx75775> yeah
[20:37] <alx75775> its hdd1
[20:38] <gorbierd> archive manager says that 7z is not supported
[20:38] <TheTaylorEffect> I think its under a lundry basket
[20:38] <xrhstaraspatra> help with ati radeon hd2400
[20:38] <joel> no it will be /dev/sda something I believe
[20:38] <riko> Hallo Leute...alles klar
[20:38] <joel> or sdb sdc, something of that manner
[20:38] <ir4> ok well shouldnt it show now like my wireless networks that are available if i click on the network icon?
[20:38] <alx75775> joel /dev/hdd
[20:38] <xrhstaraspatra> help with ati radeon hd2400 3dgames/applications blinking too much
[20:38] <xrhstaraspatra> help with ati radeon hd2400 3dgames/applications blinking too much
[20:38] <ompaul> !ati | xrhstaraspatra
[20:38] <ubotu> xrhstaraspatra: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[20:38] <joel> ohh, I've never seen someone name it like that ;) do sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[20:39] <ompaul> joel, wrong - gksu gedit please
[20:39] <joel> I personally never use gksu
[20:39] <Seven_Six_Two> ali1234 excellent. I know exactly what it is now. It shouldn't be running though.
[20:39] <Seven_Six_Two> thanks
[20:39] <joel> where do you want it to mount to? or does it matter?
[20:39] <xrhstaraspatra> glxinfo |grep direc
[20:40] <xrhstaraspatra> help
[20:40] <alx75775> joel there we go: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62359/
[20:40] <xrhstaraspatra> help with ati radeon hd2400 3dgames/applications blinking too much and other problem while the perfomance is very good
[20:40] <cpasley> I need help with sound in Gutsy.  My sound card just doesn't work.  I've followed the Debugging Sound instructions and every other thing I can find on the internet but it still won't work.
[20:41] <RaceKondition> has anyone setup a cod2 server on an Ubuntu box? I'm really having trouble setting up the init scripts
[20:41] <joel> so it's the hdd1 at the end?
[20:41] <alx75775> joel jep
[20:42] <joel> okay you should remove the (rw) and replace it with utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[20:42] <joel> that is your fstab right? the link you gave me?
[20:42] <alx75775> yeah it is
[20:43] <alx75775> konsole thells me this;
[20:43] <alx75775> alx@alx:~$ sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdd1 /media/Eigenschaften
[20:43] <alx75775> mount: /dev/hdd1 already mounted or /media/Eigenschaften busy
[20:43] <alx75775> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hdd1 is already mounted on /media/Eigenschaften
[20:43] <FloodBot2> alx75775: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:43] <joel> that's a long fstab....looks weird to me but just do this line
[20:43] <joel> /dev/hdd1 /media/Eigenschaften vfat utf8,umask=007,gid=46       0       1
[20:43] <joel> not vfat, sorry, ext3
[20:44] <jrib> joel: those options aren't used for ext3
[20:44] <joel> yeah I just realized that
[20:44] <alx75775> in konsole joel? or open fstab with kate and add as last line and save?
[20:44] <zero88> is Ubuntu compatable with the Ipod 512mb Ipod?
[20:44] <joel> zero, yes it is, a little bit of effort to get it to work
[20:44] <joel> minimal though ;)
[20:45] <zero88> joel oh really? i thought it would come up as a usb. its a usb ipod
[20:45] <joel> alx hold on just a second, you are using ext3 instead of vfat so I'm trying to figure it out
[20:45] <Juuso> gtkpod works with ipod
[20:45] <joel> zero, you need gtkpod
[20:45] <zero88> care to share what you know with me joel?
[20:45] <Juuso> sudo apt-get install gtkpod
[20:45] <jrib> alx75775: your error says the drive is mounted.  What's the issue?
[20:45] <joel> (and I personally use amarok for it)
[20:45] <h0ax> Is there a minimal install cd for Ubuntu?
[20:45] <GrueTamer> yes
[20:45] <jrib> !minimal | h0ax
[20:45] <ubotu> h0ax: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[20:45] <Seven_Six_Two> what are the softirq-****  processes? and the IRQ-## ones? I never saw them before
[20:45] <joel> jrib, it's permissions that's the problem
[20:45] <h0ax> for PPC ?
[20:45] <zero88> juuso is that it?
[20:46] <joel> I'm actually having a really similar problem with my external
[20:46] <Juuso> zero try
[20:46] <Juuso> i dont know
[20:46] <joel> mounts fine but permissions are not working at all
[20:46] <Juuso> i dont have ipod
[20:46] <zero88> juuso ok
[20:46] <jrib> joel, alx75775: you should be able to set permissions with chmod/chown as usual
[20:46] <ir4> Ok i have one more question
[20:46] <ir4> i got my wireless work work
[20:46] <joel> chmod directly to the /dev/hdd1 or to the /media/....?
[20:46] <ir4> to work*
[20:46] <Seven_Six_Two> could they be related to using the rt kernel?
[20:46] <piqoni> hello people, does anyone know for any problem that might have been occurred when updating ubuntu 7.04 to 7.1 because mine freezes 10 times in a day, does anyone tell me what should I do? thnx.
[20:46] <GrueTamer> h0ax: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[20:46] <jrib> joel: /media/...
[20:47] <ZoiX> Hi all. How copy every jpg in a carpet and its subcarpets?
[20:47] <luciddream> I've got a couple of startup scripts for mysql and mongrel_cluster that are in /etc/init.d/ and I've linked to them from the rc.X directories but these services aren't starting when I reboot.  Is there a log I can look at to see what's going wrong?  They start fine if I start them manually from the shell...
[20:47] <h0ax> GrueTamer, available for PPC ?
[20:47] <GrueTamer> yes
[20:47] <joel> jrib: I rarely do it this way so do I just do chmod 777 /media/....
[20:47] <h0ax> sweet
[20:47] <joel> to have full permissions?
[20:47] <ir4> When i click on the network connection icon, it shows connection name as lo what does that mean?
[20:47] <jrib> !permissions > joel, (read the private message from ubotu)
[20:47] <Seven_Six_Two> piqoni, what freezes? your xserver? can you use the magic-sysrq to get out of it?
[20:47] <jrib> !permissions > joel (read the private message from ubotu)
[20:47] <jrib> !permissions > alx75775 (read the private message from ubotu)
[20:47] <jrib> joel: it depends on the permissions you want
[20:48] <joel> why would we have to do this instead of just have it in the fstab?
[20:48] <joel> I believe alx and I both want full permission by users
[20:48] <Seven_Six_Two> ir4, that's a loopback device, 127.0.0.1
[20:48] <joel> the thing with mine is that if I completely remove the line from fstab, it mounts with full permissions that I want
[20:48] <ir4> ok well should i change it to eth1
[20:48] <ir4> or leave it at lo
[20:48] <DIL> ir4, is there a selection for eth0
[20:48] <joel> but it creates a new folder every time I reboot to mount to
[20:48] <piqoni> seven_six_two:  Im new to linux and I dont know what xserver is.
[20:48] <ir4> no
[20:48] <ir4> lo, or eth1
[20:48] <DIL> ir4, is there a selection for eth1
[20:48] <ir4> yes
[20:49] <Seven_Six_Two> piqoni, it's the server that gives you all of the graphics
[20:49] <DIL> select it
[20:49] <joel> and mine isn't ext3 it is fat32
[20:49] <Seven_Six_Two> piqoni, if you can, you should try to kill your xserver with alt-ctrl-backspace
[20:49] <alx75775> joel thanks so far, ill try to find out how to add this line to fstab, hope it works, brb =)
[20:49] <white_eagle> oh, when I run the computer a popup dialog shows up and tells me that the ~/.drmc (or something like that) must have 644 permissions
[20:49] <jrib> joel: then you don't chmod it.  Set a label if you want.  Then it will get assigned the same name every time
[20:49] <white_eagle> how can I make that popup go away
[20:49] <white_eagle> ?
[20:49] <joel> alx wait, that might not work since you have ext3
[20:50] <redwhitewaldo> where can i find a list  printers supported/workable in ubuntu?
[20:50] <ir4> ok thats working better now
[20:50] <joel> jrib how do I set a label?
[20:50] <ir4> but like how do i tell if its connected
[20:50] <white_eagle> !permissions
[20:50] <ubotu> An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[20:50] <ir4> like windows XP will show u the signal bar?
[20:50] <redwhitewaldo> !printers
[20:50] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[20:50] <white_eagle> ubotu thanks
[20:50] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[20:50] <ir4> does liunx show that kind of stuff?
[20:50] <Seven_Six_Two> piqoni, if that doesn't work, try to use alt-ctrl-F1 to switch to a terminal and you can use top and your logs to figure out what's going on
[20:50] <DIL> ir4, network manger
, when I do alt+ctl+backspace it logs off I think
[20:50] <tenub> does ubuntu x64 not work with intel chips (e8400)? cause i boot from cd and no matter what I select my monitor goes to sleep after the cd drive spins up
[20:50] <ir4> yes but like does it show a signal bar on the panel
[20:50] <joel> tenub try alternative cd
[20:50] <jrib> joel: with mtools, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive
 so you mean, I should press those now
[20:50] <ir4> or do i have to click it
[20:50] <DIL> ir4, network manager install it
[20:50] <DIL> yes
[20:50] <piqoni> or when it block
[20:51] <jPratt> How can i connect to my Wireless?
[20:51] <white_eagle> so
[20:51] <piqoni> s
[20:51] <tenub> which cd?
[20:51] <joel> this was never an issue with Gutsy :(
[20:51] <Seven_Six_Two> piqoni, yes. if you can do that, it's not frozen. what is it that is freezing?
[20:51] <white_eagle> how can I make that file have 644 permissions
[20:51] <ir4> how do i install that?
[20:51] <DIL> synaptic
[20:51] <ir4> apt-get install <network manager>
[20:51] <ir4> ??
[20:51] <white_eagle> ?
[20:51] <h0ax> t
[20:51] <ir4> ok how do i get synaptic
[20:51] <h0ax> GrueTamer, thanks for the help
[20:51] <jPratt> Its in system under administration ir4
[20:51] <DIL> apt get will do it
some times I cannot do it, some times yes, I have lost many datas, especially when I open openoffice.
[20:51] <Seven_Six_Two> ir4, sudo apt-get install synaptic
[20:51] <alx75775> joel, why should this not work because of ext3?
[20:52] <jPratt> Usually
[20:52] <ikm> hello all
[20:52] <GrueTamer> h0ax: y'welcome
[20:52] <k8> kurwa
[20:52] <joel> those commands aren't used with ext3 from what jrib just said, I don't really use ext3
[20:52] <biano> Will it be easy to upgrade from ubuntu 8.04 beta to 8.04?
[20:52] <joel> so trying to figure it out now
[20:52] <k8> kto tu gada po polsku
[20:52] <jrib> alx75775: pastebin your current fstab
 and the computer freezes many times especially when I open synaptic etc
[20:52] <Seven_Six_Two> piqoni, look at the logs of the programs that you're using when it freezes. how much memory do you have?
[20:52] <DIL> ir4, apt get will install network manager
[20:52] <alx75775> jrib http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62359/
 512 MB RAM
[20:53] <jrib> alx75775: is the partition in question there?
[20:53] <jPratt> How do i Connect to my wireless network?
[20:53] <piqoni> I dont know about logs,
[20:53] <tenub> blah this channel's too large
[20:53] <white_eagle> how can I setup a file to have 644 permissions?
[20:53] <cpasley> Does anyone know anything about how to make Ubuntu detect my sound card?  Thanks!
 I dont konw about logs
[20:53] <Seven_Six_Two> piqoni, the logs are in /var/logs
[20:53] <jrib> !who | tenub
[20:53] <ubotu> tenub: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[20:53] <alx75775> jrib aah forgot to tell u
[20:53] <joel> chmod 644 (the file)
[20:53] <alx75775> jrib its hdd1
 what to do with them?
[20:53] <biano> all, will it be easy to upgrade from ubuntu 8.04 beta to 8.04?
[20:53] <joel> biano, it happens automatically with the updates
[20:53] <jrib> alx75775: pastebin the output of 'mount'
[20:53] <Flannel> biano: Just regular daily updates, but hardy questions should be asked in #ubuntu+1 while its beta.
[20:54] <biano> thanks, I'll go there now
[20:54] <Monobi2> Anyway to boot Ubuntu without a USB or CD ?
[20:54] <DIL> tenub, most of teh people are asleep
[20:54] <jPratt> Install it
[20:54] <Seven_Six_Two> piqoni, you read them. It's hard to know what's freezing or why without them. also, using "top" from a console will let you see if you're running out of memory or something is using all of your cpu which might seem like a freeze sometimes
 I went there, there were many files and folders, which one should I open
[20:54] <alx75775> jrib its in the same pastebin, some lines down: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62359/
[20:54] <danbhfive> Monobi2: what do you have?
[20:54] <iositd> so on one pc, when i open up bash terminal, it opens with a white background. On my other pc, it opens with a black background. I'd like to know where the configuration settings are held for this.
[20:54] <jPratt> Monob2i, Install it
[20:54] <Monobi2> danbhfive: vista >_>
[20:54] <jrib> alx75775: I see it now :)
[20:55] <Seven_Six_Two> piqoni, do you have a swap partition?
[20:55] <alx75775> it doesn look like theres a prob, but it is =)
[20:55] <danbhfive> Monobi2: I mean, if not USB, and not CD, then through what?
[20:55] <danbhfive> Monobi2: just the net?
[20:55] <Monobi2> er, that is my question?
[20:55] <jrib> alx75775: you want to add it to fstab and make it mount at /media/Eigenschaften every time?
[20:55] <Monobi2> danbhfive: huh? vista came installed.
[20:55] <alx75775> yeah, would be great jrib
[20:55] <jPratt> How do i get the Beryl Package?
[20:55] <joel> it's compiz now not beryl
 I dont really remember, I think in the instalation I didnt choose swap, or sth like that, coz I dont know really what swap is
[20:56] <alx75775> jrib its an internal hdd
[20:56] <jrib> alx75775: ok, first 'sudo umount /dev/hdd1'
[20:56] <joel> and it's installed with Gutsy and Hardy
[20:56] <flick> is there any linux utility that i may use to flash a Netgear modem through the ethernet? i think i might have ruined it while uploading a new firmware
[20:56] <joel> if not do apt-get install compiz
 might be the problem?
[20:56] <alx75775> jrib ok,
 that one, I mean? swap memory?
[20:56] <Seven_Six_Two> piqoni, from a console, type cat /etc/fstab
[20:56] <jPratt> Joel, Well How do i get Compiz
[20:56] <joel> sudo apt-get install compiz
[20:56] <jrib> alx75775: does /media/Eigenschaften still exist?
[20:56] <BrainBug> jrib, lol u prob. dont know me anymore ^^but can i ask u something in pm?
[20:56] <Seven_Six_Two> piqoni, definitely might be. swap is for when your comp runs out of mem
[20:56] <jPratt> What?
[20:57] <jrib> BrainBug: sure
[20:57] <joel> do that in terminal
[20:57] <alx75775> jrib yes
[20:57] <joel> sudo apt-get install compiz
 it showed I think the same stuff when I open partitioner app
[20:57] <ikm> i'm trying to install ubuntu 7.10 from a CD i have burned myself, i've checked it's integrity and checked my memory that's all fine, CD loads and takes me through my language, location, and keyboard settings, then does some of it's own stuff. Detecting hardware for CD-ROM drive, Scanning CD-ROM, Loading Additional Components and Detecting Network Hardware, after that the whole thing seems to stop and i'm left with a blue screen with a grey bar at the bottom, tho
[20:57] <Seven_Six_Two> piqoni, yes, it will. is there a swap partition?
[20:57] <radioaktivstorm> hello, is there a reason i am getting "module configuration already contains alias directive"
[20:57] <luciddream> I've got startup scripts for mysql and mongrel_cluster that are in /etc/init.d and I've linked to them from the /etc/rc#.d directories but these services aren't starting when I reboot.  The services start fine if I manually start them.  Is there a log I can look at to see what's going wrong?
 How can I determine that,
[20:58] <jacob01234> i tried to install the nvidia drivers using envy and i get them installed so it prompts me to reboot so i do and everything works good then i just rebboted a min ago and it wont load the driver
[20:58] <jrib> alx75775: use 'sudo blkid' to get the uuid for your drive and add the following to your fstab: UUID=XXX /media/Eigenschaften ext3 defaults 0 2                  where XXX is the uuid you found from the blkid command
[20:58] <joel> then do sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
 and How can we discuss In private? how should I register in here?
[20:58] <jPratt> It asks for my pasword but wont let me Type it
[20:58] <joel> it is letting you type it, just doesn't show anything
[20:59] <joel> it's a security thing
[20:59] <Seven_Six_Two> piqoni, there will be a line that says something like # /dev/hda4  UUID-################# none swap sw 0 0
[20:59] <Seven_Six_Two> piqoni, sorry I don't pm
[20:59] <jPratt> Oh ok, Could put asterisk's
[20:59] <joel> after you do those two things you'll have a new set of options in system, preferences it'll be called "advanced desktop effects setting"
[20:59] <jPratt> Ok
[20:59] <Seven_Six_Two> piqoni, to register, check out /msg nickserv help register
[20:59] <joel> jrib can you help me out when you are free?
 ok, ok, no prob, you're doing too much anyway,
[21:00] <jPratt> Were at?
 i saw, but there wasnt any swap there
[21:00] <jrib> joel: I can try; what's the issue?
[21:00] <Veritto> HI, how can i remove some files that I find? I mind: I use, find . -name *.tar | rm -r
[21:00] <Seven_Six_Two> piqoni, it's no prob. I like to help when I come in and someone helps me
[21:00] <BrainBug> jrib, saw PM ?
[21:00] <joel> same mounting issue, I just want to do it through fstab like it was in Gutsy
[21:00] <ikm> i'm trying to install ubuntu 7.10 from a CD i have burned myself, i've checked it's integrity and checked my memory that's all fine, CD loads and takes me through my language, location, and keyboard settings, then does some of it's own stuff. Detecting hardware for CD-ROM drive, Scanning CD-ROM, Loading Additional Components and Detecting Network Hardware, after that the whole thing seems to stop and i'm left with a blue screen with a grey bar at the bottom, tho
[21:00] <Veritto> it's not work
[21:00] <joel> here is my line
[21:00] <joel> /dev/sdb5	/media/BACKUP	vfat	defaults,umask=777	0	0
[21:00] <DIL> ikm, wait it out
 yes, you are doing the right thing ;)
[21:01] <joel> I want full permissions and it to mount to /media/BACKUP every time
[21:01] <jPratt> I have installed it or so says the terminal and I goto system and it has all the same Options
[21:01] <ikm> ok DIL
[21:01] <SpookyET> I wonder why the gnome system monitor is stupid and resets received/sent every 4GiB
[21:01] <jrib> joel: you want umask=000
[21:01] <Seven_Six_Two> piqoni, ok, you need to make a swap partition with your partition manager. you can either start over, or back up the data in a partition that you can resize
[21:01] <joel> that's it?
[21:01] <jacob01234>  i tried to install the nvidia drivers using envy and i get them installed so it prompts me to reboot so i do and everything works good then i just rebboted a min ago and it wont load the driver
[21:01] <joel> (a;slkjgh;pasjf;kajdsfsdf to myself)
[21:01] <danbhfive> joel: that line looks like it gives you zero permissions, what jrib said too
[21:01] <jrib> joel: umask masks permissions (takes them away)
[21:01] <Seven_Six_Two> piqoni, it should be about 1GB or so.
 isnt that a difficult process?
[21:01] <joel> so just change the umask =000
[21:01] <joel> and I should reboot with full permissions?
[21:02] <joel> jPratt did you install the settings-manager?
[21:02] <danbhfive> joel: sudo mount -a might work instead of a reboot
[21:02] <Seven_Six_Two> piqoni, thanks. not really, just realize that resizing doesn't always go as planned, so a backup is a good idea. qparted or gparted should do the trick. personally I've never lost data during a partition resizing
[21:02] <jPratt> Hmmm? I dont know, But just incase were can i
 because for me it was very difficult to connect to the internet with ubuntu (with certificates and stuff like that, an other guy did it anyway,) and I am afraid of loosing the configuration for that
[21:02] <jrib> joel: no need to reboot, just remount that partition
[21:03] <joel> in terminal type sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[21:03] <J-Unit> u no that feature in gutsy that allows u to have diff locations clocks under clock thing...how can i do that in gutsy?
[21:03] <jaffarkelshac> i have been asking this question for a while now, is there anyway to control my lcd birghtness via my terminal, the last two kernal updates has broken that possiblity by keys combinations.
[21:03] <joel> that's the actual graphical interface install to change the visuals
[21:03] <Seven_Six_Two> piqoni, you shouldn't lose any data. just don't resize your / partition
[21:03] <[ATM]Nightshift> ls
[21:03] <mike___> Hey guys quick question: the mouse wheel on my microsoft wireless mouse is a bit sensative. Is there any xorg config options that I could change to turn down the sensativity?
 but I cannot do it, can you tell me a link where it is described every step of the process
[21:03] <J-Unit>  u no that feature in hardy that allows u to have diff locations clocks under clock thing...how can i do that in gutsy?***
[21:03] <piqoni> but you say that the data should be about 1 gb,
[21:03] <jrib> alx75775: still with me?
[21:03] <Seven_Six_Two> piqoni, there are instructions in those programs. a quick google search will also give you the docs
 but you say that the data should be about 1 gb,
 I have more.
[21:04] <jPratt> It says invalid command: compizconfig-settings-manager
[21:04] <Seven_Six_Two> piqoni, gparted is very reliable and is graphical so it's not hard to use. yeah. 1GB. you have more than 1GB of free space?
[21:04] <olpcsyd> #olpc-support-gang
[21:05] <jacob01234> problem with nvidia video card, the drivers keep failing to laod
[21:05] <ali1234> mike___: i have the same problem. unfortunately it's a digital control
[21:05] <jabba_> hallo
[21:05] <joel> did you do sudo apt-get ....?
[21:05] <iositd> !envy | jacob01234
[21:05] <ubotu> jacob01234: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
 oh yes, I missunderstand you, I though that was the amount that would be survived
[21:05] <Veritto> anbody can help me
[21:05] <jaffarkelshac> i have been asking this question for a while now, is there anyway to control my lcd birghtness via my terminal, the last two kernal updates has broken that possiblity by keys combinations.
[21:05] <Veritto> ?
[21:05] <piqoni> so gparted is the app? right?
[21:05] <piqoni> Seven_Six_Two>  so gparted is the app? right?
[21:06] <jPratt> it says invalid command:
[21:06] <piqoni> Seven_Six_Two: can I get it from synaptic? right?
[21:06] <janet> hello I am new to Ubuntu and need a bit of help
[21:06] <Seven_Six_Two> piqoni, that's how much you need to shrink one of your current partitions by. yes. gparted or qtparted which is what I use
[21:06] <jPratt> It says invalid command: compizconfig-settings-manager**
[21:06] <Veritto> HI, how can i remove some files that I find? I mind: I use, find . -name *.tar | rm -r
[21:06] <joel> jPratt, go to synatpic package manager, search for compiz and then look for the compizconfig-settings-manager int here
[21:06] <Seven_Six_Two> piqoni, they should both be available, although I only know that qtparted is for sure because I have it installed
[21:07] <joel> jPratt I'll be back in just a minute
[21:07] <piqoni> Seven_Six_Two: So this software is just for separating the drives, later what should I do about the SWAP thing???
[21:07] <janet> I downloaded applications easily yesterday but today whenever I try I get a message saying software not authenticated. It does it for every software I try to install.
[21:07] <Seven_Six_Two> piqoni, it can resize partitions, and make new ones, and format them for you
[21:07] <jrib> Veritto: see the -delete or -exec switches in 'man find', pipe the output of find to xargs
[21:07] <iositd> janet, sudo aptitude update <== should fix that for you
[21:07] <jrib> Veritto: there should be an "or" after that comma
[21:08] <ikm> i'm trying to install ubuntu 7.10 from a CD i have burned myself, i've checked it's integrity and checked my memory that's all fine, CD loads and takes me through my language, location, and keyboard settings, then does some of it's own stuff. Detecting hardware for CD-ROM drive, Scanning CD-ROM, Loading Additional Components and Detecting Network Hardware, after that the whole thing seems to stop and i'm left with a blue screen with a grey bar at the bottom, tho
[21:08] <Seven_Six_Two> piqoni, nothing is applied until the end
[21:08] <janet> iositd, what do I need to do please?
[21:08] <piqoni> Seven_Six_Two: aha, ok great,I dont know, I will try,
[21:08] <iositd> janet, type that command in a terminal.
[21:08] <piqoni> Seven_Six_Two: you helped me too much
[21:08] <Seven_Six_Two> piqoni, there is a command to turn the swap on as well, but I don't remember what it is...anyone else?   <-----------
[21:08] <janet> isositd, sorry, how do I do that?
[21:09] <iositd> janet, applications -> accessoires -> terminal ... then type ==> sudo aptitude update <== and hit enter. type your password, hit enter again. That should fix it.
[21:09] <Max_-> Hi! How can I see what eats up all my RAM? .. I'm trying top, but the thing that takes the most of it shows like 3.8 % and it's Xorg.. that's impossible.
[21:10] <ikm> need help plzz,,,,
[21:10] <Seven_Six_Two> piqoni, no problem. good luck
[21:10] <ikm> after that the whole thing seems to stop and i'm left with a blue screen with a grey bar at the bottom, though i can write stuff in the grey bar, i would not have a clue what to type in, i left it all night and woke up to the same screen so it's not just taking ages,
[21:10] <pschorf2> hello, all
[21:10] <ikm> i'm trying to install ubuntu 7.10 from a CD i have burned myself, i've checked it's integrity and checked my memory that's all fine, CD loads and takes me through my language, location, and keyboard settings, then does some of it's own stuff. Detecting hardware for CD-ROM drive, Scanning CD-ROM, Loading Additional Components and Detecting Network Hardware, after that the whole thing seems to stop and i'm left with a blue screen with a grey bar at the bottom, tho
[21:10] <Seven_Six_Two> Max_-, use > to change the column that top sorts by
[21:10] <jrib> Max_-: system -> administration -> system monitor for a gui
[21:11] <Seven_Six_Two> Max_-, < to go left and > to go right
[21:11] <jPratt> Joel, I got it
[21:11] <joel> jrib that fixed it :) thanks a lot
[21:11] <danand__> Max_- try htop
[21:11] <jrib> joel: no problem
[21:11] <joel> you got it going jPratt?
[21:11] <janet> iositd, thanks, I will try that
[21:11] <piqoni> Seven_Six_Two: sorry for bothering, but you're saying that might be a command that can SIMPLIFY this process, I mean, only writing that and the problem might be resolved directly????
[21:11] <smithey93> ikm: its ok, just leave it for a bit, i had that problem once you just gotta eave it for a while and itworks eventualy
[21:11] <joel> jrib one other thing that I'm having is when I delete it says it can't send it to the trash and must immediately delete it
[21:11] <jPratt> Joel, I guess not because that option is still not there
[21:11] <jrib> joel: don't know about that
[21:11] <joel> in system, preferences there is no advanced desktop settings?
[21:11] <Seven_Six_Two> piqoni, no, but there is a command to get your system to start using the new swap partition
[21:12] <ikm> oh really smithey93?
[21:12] <jPratt> Joel,  found it thanks for helping
[21:12] <Seven_Six_Two> piqoni, I think it's swapon
[21:12] <eax> Kan anyone tell me hot to put my network card in Promiscuos mode and back again?
[21:12] <joel> sure thing jPratt
[21:12] <MrMorkel> Hello does anybody know how i can recover a passphrase from a ssh key_file?
[21:12] <joel> Morkel, that's going to be hard
[21:12] <smithey93> ikm: yea, i was trying to install it on my laptop and i just walked away, left it for a bit, and it worked
[21:12] <lucien> whit which command can i update my distri? i already have 6.10 oO
[21:12] <Seven_Six_Two> eax, that's outlined in the ifconfig docs. try "man ifconfig"
[21:13] <ikm> i wait whole night :( nothing happend
[21:13] <ikm> :(
[21:13] <joel> lucien, does 6.10 have update manager?
[21:13] <jrib> MrMorkel: if you could do that, then that would pretty much defeat its purpose :)
[21:13] <lucien> yes
[21:13] <MrMorkel> joel: i now its a easy word, do you know a programm for a dictonary attack?
[21:13] <eax> Seven_Six_Two: In terminal
[21:13] <piqoni> Seven_Six_Two:  anyway it is going to be difficult to understand, anyway, thnx a lot. see you around. bye
[21:13] <Seven_Six_Two> eax, yes
[21:13] <lucien> joel yes
[21:13] <Max_-> Seven_Six_Two, jrib: okay, thanks... it works, but that's still weird that my 2GB or ram are gone while all that runs are a few apps ... amarok, evolution, pidgin, skype, kvirc... it says Xorg 2 times takes 3.7% each and nautilus 2.6% ..
[21:13] <joel> lucien: for me it told me that it recommended upgrading and I just clicked it
[21:13] <Max_-> *of ram*
[21:13] <jrib> Max_-: try 'free -m' in a shell
[21:14] <Seven_Six_Two> Max_-, linux precaches. it doesn't mean it's all in use
[21:14] <ikm> cant wait for ubuntu 8.04 i want to install and use ubuntu RIGHT NOW :(
[21:14] <malka_b> hi ppl.i have problem-for some(long) time i am tring to run ubuntu from pendrive but when i try to use presistent feature i get fd0 i/o error any sugestons?
[21:14] <joel> I have Ubuntu 8.04 installed right now, it's almost ready for release, just a few minor issues
[21:14] <lucien> joel it doesnt remember me... it updated all my programs but not the distribution
[21:14] <Max_-> jrib: free agrees with top
[21:15] <eisenhower> how can i figure out what version of ubuntu i'm running? like 64 bit or 32?
[21:15] <Seven_Six_Two> Max_-, does it say you have just a little bit left?
[21:15] <jrib> Max_-: what does the "-/+ buffers/cache" line say you have free?
[21:15] <Max_-> Seven_Six_Two: okay... maybe, but the other day it was using a part of my swap space.. that probably means it really was full
[21:15] <Max_-> Seven_Six_Two: yes.. I actually have 156 mb left
[21:15] <eax> Seven_Six_Two: thanks :) Is it possible for for an example make a new interface in monitor mode and then switch to that when I need it?
[21:16] <Max_-> oh wait... jrib does that mean that the amount in that line is not really used?
[21:16] <mannex> I need help finding the correct driver for my VGA Compatible controller, I know exactly what kind of controller it is; it works perfect in Gutsy 7.10 but I am running Edgy 6.10 now and it is not automatically found and configured.
[21:16] <olpcsyd> #olpc - support
[21:16] <Max_-> in the buffer line I have 1.6 GB free
[21:16] <joel> lucien do this: gksu update-manager -c
[21:16] <MrMorkel> Or a other Question, on a other Linux Computer i can type ssh username@1.1.1.1 and then ssh use this keyfile with the passphrase, but i dont know how i have saved this password
[21:16] <Seven_Six_Two> eax, you can have a config file to load if you want, but I don't know how to do it\. or have 2 devices. are you on a switched lan?
[21:17] <joel> here lucien just follow these instructions: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/upgrade-ubuntu-610-edgy-eft-to-ubuntu-704-feisty-fawn.html
[21:17] <jrib> Max_-: yeah, it takes into account what Seven_Six_Two was saying.  Unused ram is, well, useless.  So linux tries to be smart and uses it.  If some app needs it, it will free it up
[21:17] <eax> Seven_Six_Two: What do you mean? I'm on Wlan
[21:17] <Seven_Six_Two> eax, oh, you want to snoop?
[21:17] <NewMonarch> Hey, how come I can't get the latest version of imagemagick by using aptitude install?
[21:17] <Max_-> jrib okay! good, thanks.. I was afraid my HD would become RAM again soon
[21:17] <Max_-> and that's really not good for the HD
[21:18] <Seven_Six_Two> eax, yeah, try a different config file, and you can load it when you need it
[21:18] <lucien> aah it works!!! thx joel :)
[21:18] <eax> Seven_Six_Two: What do you mean by snoop? I'm testing my own wireless..
[21:18] <joel> NewMonarch, it takes a little while to get into the repos unless you have a lot of extra repos in your sources
[21:18] <joel> sure thing lucine, just make sure to upgrade one step at a time
[21:18] <eax> Seven_Six_Two: Any documentation on that? :)
[21:18] <joel> don't go from 6.10 to 7.10 without doing 7.04 first
[21:19] <Seven_Six_Two> eax, whether legal or not, it's it's snooping. I'm sure there is. have you been through all of the ifconfig man pages, the info pages and googled what you want to do?
[21:19] <smithey93> can i rip like, real dvd with ubuntu? like real ones from the shop
[21:19] <Seven_Six_Two> eax, you want to pull packets from some other connection, correct?
[21:19] <malka_b> ...sorry 2 disturb your conversation...well anybody can help me?
[21:19] <NewMonarch> joel: Rmagick is requiring 6.3 but I can only get ImageMagick 6.2
[21:20] <alx75775> jrib yes, im still here.. i changed fstab now (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62363/) and mounted it (command mount shows me that its mounted), but still cannot write on the hdd... there is a folder on it 'lost+found' but i cannot open it =(
[21:20] <joel> smithey, if you are doing it legally download acidrip from repo it's easy to use
[21:20] <eax> Seven_Six_Two: No not yet, as I'm not certain what exactly what I'm looking for:) But Yes I want to snoop my own network.
[21:20] <joel> NewMonarch: then you'll have to get the source or rpm and install it that way
[21:20] <jrib> alx75775: now you need to set the permissions you want using chmod/chown
[21:20] <smithey93> joel, yea its just its my dads dvd and i want it on my laptop, acidrip is installing now :)
[21:20] <alx75775> jrib ok, ill try that^
[21:21] <ricanelite> by mistake i installed vmare-server but it came up with a serial number but i dont want it to mess up my virtualbox which i have running vista
[21:21] <fizk> hi, i installed linux-image-686 and linux-restricted-modules-686 and rebooted, but the grub menu did not show any changes
[21:21] <joel> NewMonarch: you can also try doing gksu /etc/apt/sources.list and uoncommend all the things before deb....
[21:21] <ricanelite> i delete vmware on the package manager but i also see vmware-xorg which is installed
[21:21] <ricanelite> what do i do?
[21:21] <murkyMurk> does anyone know the actual path to the gnome wastebin?
[21:21] <joel> all right smithey (I'm a stickler for legal stuff) but yeah just use that, it'll rip to a good quality .avi at under 1200 megs
[21:21] <Seven_Six_Two> eax, check out ethereal
[21:22] <dextre> hey, I came in this morning to see my ubuntu sitting at the grub menu with an error 18.. what happened??
[21:22] <ryanzec> what is the command to use compix themes instead of the default themes on gnome?
[21:22] <dextre> i'm using the live version to type, fortunately
[21:22] <|Dede|> how can I find out on what BusID my grafic card is?
[21:22] <ryanzec> compiz*
[21:22] <unop> murkyMurk, probably ~/.Trash
[21:22] <malka_b> LIVE USB + PRESISTENT =FD0 I/0 ERROR (HALP)
[21:22] <smithey93> chears joel, im doing it now, ive used this before i think
[21:22] <joel> ryanzec, install compiz-settings-manager
[21:22] <eax> Seven_Six_Two: Yes that's what I want :)
[21:22] <murkyMurk> unop: you'd have though wouldn't you but no.
[21:22] <eax> Seven_Six_Two: Thanks :)
[21:23] <dena> when I ping my ubuntu box with it's name in windows ie ping ubuntu it will ping it and give me it's ip. However when I try that from my any ubuntu box it says can't be found
[21:23] <murkyMurk> |Dede|: lspci
[21:23] <unop> murkyMurk, find out then. find ~ -iname "*rash*" -type d
[21:23] <Seven_Six_Two> eax, no problem. have fun!!
[21:23] <jrib> murkyMurk: why do you say it is not?
[21:24] <jacob01234> ubontu, well there woulnt be a need to use the proprietary nvidia drivers or envy installer if i could get some decent performace out of the "supported drivers"
[21:24] <unop> murkyMurk, which version of ubuntu?
[21:24] <eax> Seven_Six_Two: Thanks :) Other things I should look at?
[21:24] <dextre> why is my ubuntu box sitting at grub error 18?  What could have happened?
[21:24] <malka_b> truly greate and helpfull community p.s. fuck u all
[21:24] <jacob01234> ubotu, im just saying
[21:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about im just saying - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:24] <murkyMurk> jrib: 'cos I have two dir stuck in it that i need to delete as root..can't find the things anywhere
[21:24] <smithey93> malka_b: thats nice
[21:24] <freewilly> hehe
[21:24] <Seven_Six_Two> eax, wireshark is a good program, and you could also do a google/linux search for wep cracking if you'd like to see why you shouldn't use it
[21:25] <Priit_M> Hi, is there any applications to check network(wifi) stability under ubuntu 7.04?
[21:25] <dextre> how do i list my harddrives.. fdisk -l  ?
[21:25] <murkyMurk> unop: surely it doesn't matter....which version of gnome might matter
[21:25] <dena> when I ping my ubuntu box with it's name in windows ie ping ubuntu it will ping it and give me it's ip. However when I try that from my any ubuntu box it says can't be found
[21:25] <joel> sudo fdisk -l
[21:25] <pythonclub> Buona sera a tutti cercavo la soluzione al problema dello spegnimento del pc
[21:25] <smithey93> i have a slight problem, my dvd drive wont eject, all the cables are pluged in
[21:25] <unop> murkyMurk, they are both linked .. the version of gnome to the version of ubuntu and how they relate to where Trash is at
[21:26] <unop> !it | pythonclub
[21:26] <ubotu> pythonclub: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[21:26] <murkyMurk> unop: ahha! hardy
[21:26] <jrib> murkyMurk: http://www.ramendik.ru/docs/trashspec.html if you are interested.  You probably need to look in a .Trash* in removable devices maybe
[21:26] <joel> smithey, is this a problem that has happened often or just right now (if just right now try a reboot or unmount it)
[21:26] <Seven_Six_Two> smithey93, try lsof /dev/hd## to find out what's holding it
[21:26] <eax> Seven_Six_Two: I have that ;) (Not WEP crack though) but any documentation of sorts?
[21:26] <pythonclub> cosa devo fare per andare sul canale italiano?
[21:26] <unop> murkyMurk, on hardy .. it's in ~/.local somewhere .. and hardy isnt supported in here .. please ask in #ubuntu+1
[21:27] <style23> I want to bridge a wired ethernet with an wireless LAN, where systems on both sides can communicate with each other.
[21:27] <smithey93> Thanks Seven_Six_Two, but i relised the power jack wasnt it it correctly :( idiot that i am :)
[21:27] <ryanzec> joel: i have install it and imported a theme to it
[21:27] <pythonclub> ho trovato
[21:27] <Seven_Six_Two> eax, I would suggest browsing tldp.org because it's all there in one place with a lot of how-to docs
[21:27] <pythonclub> grazie good nigth
[21:27] <ryanzec> joel: but it is still not showing up
[21:27] <eax> Seven_Six_Two: Thanks a lot :) Have a good night :)
[21:27] <Seven_Six_Two> eax, you too
[21:27] <joel> ryanzec: what kind of theme and how did you import it?
[21:28] <edju> "sysctl dev.wifi0.ledpin" returns "unknown key".  sure enough, "sysctl -a" doesn't show it.  does that mean it's recompile the kernel time?
[21:28] <dummies_for_dumm> Does anyone know of good comprehensive articles for making a home recording studio with Linux? All the ones I've found are pretty shallow
[21:28] <sleepster> \join #Ilikeboobies
[21:28] <sleepster> oops
[21:28] <sleepster> frick
[21:28] <jacob01234> ubontu, well im saying either way i install, the nvidia binary or envy it works until next reboot but then why wont ubuntu reload the drivers that previously work. i con restart x and everyhitng but when i reeboot i llose everyhitng
[21:28] <FloodBot2> sleepster: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:28] <ryanzec> a .emerald theme and the emerald theme manager
[21:28] <Seven_Six_Two> dummies_for_dumm, you need JACK, but the docs are limited. you'll need a RT kernel as well
[21:28] <RB2> When I use Search in Nautilus, it just searches the current folder. What's the best way to search and include all sub-folders?
[21:28] <dummies_for_dumm> wow sleepster...
[21:28] <c0mp13371331337_> I'm trying to set up vncviewer on my computer to listen on port 80, so I'm using vncviewer -listen 80 to start the listening.  I have port 80 forwarded to my internal IP from my router, and the support.exe utility has been configured to my external static IP and port 80.  When my client runs support.exe on their windows machine, the terminal I ran vncviewer on shows an incoming connection from that IP address, yet doesn't prompt m
[21:28] <c0mp13371331337_> e to connect or anything.  Am I missing something?
[21:28] <sleepster> dang slashes
[21:29] <dummies_for_dumm> Seven: thanks. what's RT mean?
[21:29] <Seven_Six_Two> dummies_for_dumm, realtime
[21:29] <uptownben> Hey All, I want to install Ubuntu on a USB key but I want to install it as if it was a HDD, is that possible?
[21:29] <ricanelite> anyone here could help me i install vmware-server by mistake so i decided to remove it in the package manager but when i typed in vmware i see vmware-server-kernel modules, vmware-server-kernel-modules and xserver-xorg-video-vmware
[21:29] <joel> ryanzec: there are a couple ways to do this, one way is in terminal type compiz --replace -c emerald
[21:29] <ricanelite> can i remove it and my system will be fine?
[21:29] <Seven_Six_Two> dummies_for_dumm, there's a rt kernel in the ubuntu repositories. it's low latency, which gives audio apps priority in the processor
[21:29] <joel> then add that to your sessions so that it does that on boot
[21:30] <charles|64> ok anyone using frostwire in a 64 bit enviorment
[21:30] <Seven_Six_Two> dummies_for_dumm, one sec and I'll find you a url that helped me.
[21:30] <dextre> my drives are still there, just now it's booting into grub error 18, any reasons why or fixes?
[21:30] <charles|64> *environment
[21:30] <jacob01234> ubotu,  well im saying either way i install, the nvidia binary or envy it works until next reboot but then why wont ubuntu reload the drivers that previously work. I can restart x and everything but when i reboot i lose everything
[21:30] <CloudFX> charles|64: i used to and it was fine
[21:30] <dummies_for_dumm> Seven_Six_Two: Thanks.
[21:30] <Seven_Six_Two> dummies_for_dumm, http://tapas.affenbande.org/wordpress/
[21:30] <CloudFX>  charles|64: download the .deb file from the frost wire site
[21:30] <D-Unit> how do i install folding@home?
[21:31] <charles|64> CloudFX: when i try it i get a java error did you use ubuntu restricted extras to install java?
[21:31] <joel> ryan did that work?
[21:31] <Seven_Six_Two> dummies_for_dumm, http://www.linux-sound.org/
[21:31] <unop_> c0mp13371331337_, is the vncserver running? find out with netstat (and/or ps) -- and under what user are you running vncserver?
[21:31] <markmark> Hi all, I'm having problems editing my sudoers file, and I just spent 20 minutes in single user mode trying to fix it.  Now I'm afraid to try again lol.  Here's the line I was using %<mark> NOPASSWD: /home/mark/batch/Wireless.sh
[21:31] <CloudFX> charles|64: you need to install java.. hold on I'll get you the code
[21:31] <charles|64> CloudFX: cool thanks
[21:31] <ryanzec> joel: no, i run that command and my screen so to just the background and then everything comes back as it was
[21:32] <dummies_for_dumm> Seven_Six_Two: Thanks a ton!
[21:32] <Seven_Six_Two> dummies_for_dumm, be aware that getting sound from alsa to jack won't work until 8.1 comes out
[21:32] <mdcjfd> ever since i changed my wireless to wep tkip i cant connect with my laptop
[21:32] <Seven_Six_Two> dummies_for_dumm, because of a bug in the alsa libraries. all apps that can use jack directly will work fine though.
[21:32] <mdcjfd> help? ? ?
[21:32] <dummies_for_dumm> Seven_Six_Two: so I need to get my card working with OSS or aRts or just use JACK apps?
[21:33] <Seven_Six_Two> dummies_for_dumm, no, turn off arts, and if you're using a recent ubuntu, you already have alsa
[21:33] <joel> ryan go to advanced desktop settings, click on window decorator, in command type "emerald --replace"
[21:33] <Seven_Six_Two> dummies_for_dumm, you just won't be able to use alsa only apps with jack. they will be able to output to alsa still
[21:34] <Seven_Six_Two> dummies_for_dumm, the advantage of using jack is that you can use the output of one prog as the input for another
[21:34] <joel> then do "killall compiz" to close compiz then do "compiz" to start it back up
[21:34] <dummies_for_dumm> Seven_Six_Two: is alsa the cause behind why when I have some apps open, like TeamSpeak, others (like Kaffeine) can't play audio?
[21:35] <Seven_Six_Two> dummies_for_dumm, but for example, skype will only output to alsa, so you can't use that output as an input for a jack mixer to record and change it
[21:35] <CloudFX> charles|64: apologies on the wait. Here is the code: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin sun-java6-jre
[21:35] <kermas> h
[21:35] <Seven_Six_Two> dummies_for_dumm, I don't think so. alsa should be able to mix. KDE's arts might be the cause of that
[21:35] <CloudFX> charles|64:  once that is installed, frostwire should install
[21:35] <charles|64> CloudFX: I have 7 installed
[21:35] <ricanelite> anyone here could help me i install vmware-server by mistake so i decided to remove it in the package manager but when i typed in vmware i see vmware-server-kernel modules, vmware-server-kernel-modules and xserver-xorg-video-vmware
[21:36] <dummies_for_dumm> Seven_Six_Two: okay. thanks for the help
[21:36] <uptownben> Theoretically I should be able to remove my regular hard drive, boot from the Ubuntu CD, plug in my USB key and perform a standard HDD install correct?
[21:36] <ricanelite> can i remove this and it will not messup with my linux system and I have virtualbox installed and running windows vista
[21:36] <smithey93> acid rip wont work, i click start and it just dies
[21:36] <CloudFX> charles|64: I don't think that java 7 has been released yet..
[21:36] <dextre> my drives are still there, just now it's booting into grub error 18, any reasons why or fixes?
[21:36] <charles|64> CloudFX: it installs fine just doesnt load
[21:36] <Seven_Six_Two> dummies_for_dumm, no prob. I hope I've saved you some googling. the alsa site has a lot of docs, but they're not geared towards newbies like us, so good luck
[21:36] <joel> smithey: can you play the dvd on your computer without a problem?
[21:37] <dextre> could an old usb device have caused the error 18?
[21:37] <unop_> !grub | dextre (use the following to help reinstall grub)
[21:37] <ubotu> dextre (use the following to help reinstall grub): grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[21:37] <ryanzec> joel: i get this when i try to do "compix" : http://pastebin.org/27922
[21:37] <smithey93> joel: just a sec
[21:37] <DIL> ricanelite: i had the same issues and deleted it it had not effect on my system
[21:37] <CloudFX> charles|64: ah, I believe that is because the java 7 u aare using is just demo
[21:37] <ricanelite> ok
[21:37] <CloudFX> charles|64: try installing 6
[21:37] <charles|64> CloudFX: sorry its 6 i just looked at it.
[21:37] <CloudFX> charles|64: alright then
[21:37] <dummies_for_dumm> Seven_Six_Two: you don't seem very newbish, hehe. I'm not terribly nooibsh, jsut not familiar with the multimedia systems of Linux.
[21:37] <brunner> can anyone point me to some ubuntu-friendly tutorials for unlocking the iphone?
[21:37] <CloudFX> charles|64: try this...
[21:37] <joel> ryan: do you have compiz startup with computer?
[21:38] <joel> brunner: those don't exist yet as far as I know
[21:38] <dummies_for_dumm> brunner: I think fsckin had something about that, lemme check
[21:38] <Seven_Six_Two> dummies_for_dumm, that's what I meant by newb. I'm a linux multimedia newb, but not a linux newb. and I just went through that a week ago
[21:38] <brunner> I mean, it's just Darwin... shouldn't be too unfriendly to linux =]
[21:38] <Seven_Six_Two> dummies_for_dumm, and the docs are rather lacking
[21:39] <dummies_for_dumm> brunner: my bad, you said "unlock" thought you said "open" like to add ringtones
[21:39] <ryanzec> joel:I don't know i think so.  I mean when i move my window i get the effect that compiz done so i imagine it is running.
[21:39] <brunner> oh oh
[21:39] <brunner> nah
[21:39] <brunner> I need to be able to use it on T-Mobile first
[21:39] <smithey93> joel: yea i can play the dvd no problem
[21:39] <dummies_for_dumm> Seven_Six_Two: Are they wikis? That's my favourite documentations style. Turns out thorough docs quickly for active projects.
[21:39] <CloudFX> charles|64: wait, so you say that Frostwire is installed, but you just can't load it
[21:39] <joel> brunner: get a neo1973 instead of the iphone ;) built on open source tech
[21:39] <dextre> how do I mount my /dev/sda1   (primary linux partition) to help recover the boot process
[21:39] <CloudFX> charles|64: so you can see it under Applications > Internet
[21:40] <Seven_Six_Two> dummies_for_dumm, the alsa site is, but it's very advanced.
[21:40] <brunner> joel: this was free
[21:40] <joel> ryan: try a reboot so that compiz loads back up with that command in there
[21:40] <Seven_Six_Two> dummies_for_dumm, and the jack docs don't really exist
[21:40] <brunner> and I'm still probably not going to use it as my primary phone
[21:40] <brunner> I prefer my Sony Ericsson W810i
[21:40] <Seven_Six_Two> dummies_for_dumm, the most info you'll get is with man jackd
[21:40] <dummies_for_dumm> Seven_Six_Two: I'm American so it' probably way over my head.
[21:40] <brunner> it's more functional overall.
[21:40] <joel> smithy: I have installed dvd shrink through wine with no problem, you might want to try that
[21:41] <Seven_Six_Two> dummies_for_dumm, lol. good luck with it. I'm waiting for 8.1 because of the frustration.
[21:41] <smithey93> ah cool
[21:41] <joel> smithy: you can also type "acidrip" in terminal try to rip it and then look at the output to find error
[21:41] <Legality> Hi
[21:41] <smithey93> joel: thanks dude ill try it,i <3 dvd drink
[21:41] <Seven_Six_Two> dummies_for_dumm, you can save yourself a lot of trouble if you install all of the ubuntustudio packages in your repositories
[21:41] <Legality> Quick question.. If a system is using sw-raid1 and the first hdd fails, Will the array stay on?
[21:41] <Legality> *mdadm
[21:41] <CloudFX> charles|64: can u please give me the output of java -version
[21:41] <joel> smiethy: dvdshink is pretty good but has it's own issues, it's not supported any more so you'll have to find it on a server somewhere, the founder was closed down
[21:42] <Strang3love> I am having some issues with a dependency issue.  I run sudo apt-get -f install and it says that it cant overwrite one package because it is contained in another
[21:42] <Strang3love> any ideas?
[21:42] <mrj> hi
[21:42] <dummies_for_dumm> It's a bit underpowered machine, so not running ubunntu. I spent a long time compiling Gentoo on it now working on the audio. (I needed faster optimised things.)
[21:42] <cchild> bcm4319 issue, I can connect when connected to windows, but no luck-- it has been working fine with ndiswrapper -now it just died
[21:42] <unop_> markmark, look into setting command aliases for your script there and also make sure your script is executable (sudo chmod a+x script) - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers
[21:42] <mrj> could someone explain to me briwfly how a ad-hoc newtork is to be setuped in linux ?
[21:43] <mrj> briefly*
[21:43] <smithey93> joel: *mininova* *btjunkie* lol
[21:43] <unop_> dummies_for_dumm, you really should be asking things in #gentoo if you are running gentoo
[21:43] <Seven_Six_Two> dummies_for_dumm, no worries. it's still jack that you need
[21:43] <Seven_Six_Two> dummies_for_dumm, you may have to compile your kernel by hand though.
[21:44] <style23> How to run the bridge-utils?
[21:44] <dummies_for_dumm> It's not the thing about Gentoo though just general things; my friend is doing the same thing with Ubuntu and is less technical.
[21:44] <mrj> someone ad-hoc ?
[21:44] <dotech> anyone here using 3 monitors in Ubuntu?
[21:44] <Seven_Six_Two> dummies_for_dumm, there is a #jack channel and an #alsa channel too that you might want to see
[21:44] <Strang3love> I am having some problems with a dependency issue.  I run sudo apt-get -f install and it says that it cant overwrite one package because it is contained in another.  it ultimately fails
[21:45] <Seven_Six_Two> dotech, 2 monitors and a tv
[21:45] <dummies_for_dumm> Seven_Six_Two: keep forgetting to type you nick, hehe. okay thanks. This is freenode server right?
[21:45] <Seven_Six_Two> dummies_for_dumm, yeah
[21:45] <dotech> Seven_Six_Two: if i wanted to use all 3 as part of my desktop is that possible?
[21:45] <dummies_for_dumm> Seven_Six_Two: ALl right, thanks a ton. God bless and have a nice day/
[21:45] <mrj> Seven_Six_Two: you familiar with ad-hoc ?
[21:45] <charles|64> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_03-b05)
[21:45] <charles|64> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 1.6.0_03-b05, mixed mode)
[21:45] <slam> irc://irc.freenode.net/#ubuntu
[21:45] <Seven_Six_Two> dotech, yeah, it can be done, at least with my video card
[21:46] <alan_m> slam, your already here :D
[21:46] <style23> I installed  the bridge-utils and don't know how to run it
[21:46] <DrNoboto> question of the day:  how would one install a package manager using only tools in /bin, i.e. /usr is empty.....?
[21:46] <Seven_Six_Two> mrj, not really. I know what it is, but I don't use wireless
[21:46] <CloudFX> charles|64: alright try this: sudo apt-get install ia32-sun-java6-bin
[21:46] <dotech> Seven_Six_Two: i have dual nvidia cards, just not sure what the easiest route to happiness is
[21:46] <dotech> there seems to be a handful of ways to do this
[21:46] <slam> kapios elinas edo?
[21:46] <joel> dotech: do you have nvidia-settings installed?
[21:46] <smithey93> joel: im installing dvd shrink now - hoping for the best lol
[21:46] <fizk> Does anyone know what a "dummy package" is?
[21:46] <Seven_Six_Two> dotech, I do it with one. I have a 6800gtoc
[21:46] <dotech> joel: nope
[21:47] <joel> dotech: sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[21:47] <alan_m> um, not sure what language that is guys, can someone who knows point slam to the right place?
[21:47] <joel> then in terminal type "nvidia-settings" and you'll be good to go
[21:47] <fizk> "linux-headers-686 - Upgrade dummy package. Can be removed"
[21:47] <Seven_Six_Two> dotech, yeah. joel's got it right. I use the restricted driver too
[21:47] <Strang3love> I am having some problems with a dependency issue.  can anyone help?
[21:47] <bluefoxx__> what does "unregistered torrent pass" mean? its all my torrent downloader is saying
[21:47] <unop_> DrNoboto, what do you mean /usr is empty? how did it come to be like that?
[21:47] <joel> Strang: give us more details please, also try a little google work
[21:47] <dotech> Seven_Six_Two: ok, i'm installing the app joel suggested
[21:47] <AdrianStrays> I am trying to install ndiswrapper, can anyone help me?
[21:48] <IndyGunFreak> joel: dotech actually if he wants to save any settings he does in nvidia settings, he''ll need to run gksudo nvidia-settings
[21:48] <joel> Adrian: what are you having problems with?
[21:48] <Seven_Six_Two> bluefoxx, it means the tracker is private, and you have to register on the tracker site to use it. That's not an Ubuntu question though
[21:48] <AdrianStrays> I get to this point in the installation: adrian@Alpha-60-Workstation:~/ndiswrapper-1.52$ make distclean
[21:48] <AdrianStrays> make -C driver clean
[21:48] <AdrianStrays> make[1]: Entering directory `/home/adrian/ndiswrapper-1.52/driver'
[21:48] <AdrianStrays> Makefile:35: *** Cannot find kernel version in /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-rt/build, is it configured?.  Stop.
[21:48] <AdrianStrays> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/adrian/ndiswrapper-1.52/driver'
[21:48] <FloodBot2> AdrianStrays: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:48] <DrNoboto> unop_: the reiserfs partition mounted at /usr got junked
[21:48] <AdrianStrays> make: *** [clean] Error 2
[21:48] <GIn> AdrianStrays: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper
[21:48] <alan_m> !pastebin adrianStrays
[21:48] <joel> Indy: you're right, I actually did nvidia-settings for awhile but it wouldn't do what I wanted so I switched to manually altering xorg ;)
[21:48] <alan_m> oops :/
[21:48] <smithey93> anybody, any idea how i can use effects? im useing a radion x1550 graphics card with restricted driver
[21:48] <Strang3love> joel: after running sudo apt-get -f install, it says that there is a dpkg error processing a package.  it was trying to over write  `/usr/lib/evas/modules/engines/buffer/linux-gnu-i486/module.so', which is also in package libevas0-engine-buffer
[21:48] <DrNoboto> unop_: reiserfsck did a great job of recovering the files but placed them all in directories with numerical names
[21:48] <alan_m> !pastebin | adrianstrays
[21:48] <ubotu> adrianstrays: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[21:48] <Seven_Six_Two> IndyGunFreak, yes, good point. note that dotech
[21:48] <GIn> AdrianStrays: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper
[21:49] <IndyGunFreak> i'll never understand what possesses people do that, weather they read the topic or not
[21:49] <DrNoboto> unop_: as to how said corruption came to be in the first place, i have no idea
[21:49] <alan_m> IndyGunFreak, me either but hey im just a lonely local beginner team member :P
[21:49] <DrNoboto> i rebooted to a string of "command not found" s and got dumped to the console
[21:49] <IndyGunFreak> alan_m: lol..
[21:49] <AdrianStrays> This is what I get: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62365/
[21:49] <cchild>  bcm4319/ndiswrapper has been working fine but all of a sudden it wont even detect wifi networks
[21:50] <Mehal> i need help setting up dual screens between my laptop's monitor and a 22 inch lcd
[21:50] <alan_m> AdrianStrays, thanks for following the directions, much appreciated :D
[21:50] <joel> Mehal: what kind of video card?
[21:50] <Mehal> intel 945gm
[21:50] <AdrianStrays> I tried installing through synaptic, but it refused to recognize my ubuntu installation disk
[21:50] <joel> I don't use intel video cards at all, sorry
[21:50] <bluefoxx> ok, whats the point of having letters for keyboard shortcuts underlined if i cant use them? EG the shutdown menu 'reboot' has r underlined for hit r to reboot but it doesnt do anything
[21:50] <alan_m> Mehal, i have the same exact card, maybe when they get you help....it might help me ;D
[21:50] <IndyGunFreak> AdrianStrays: you don't need an installation disk to install from synaptic.
[21:50] <steven__> I have tried everything I possibly can, I cannot get my "VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller" to work with Edgy 6.10... it's perfect with Gutsy 7.10... any advice?
[21:51] <AdrianStrays> It asked me for one
[21:51] <smithey93> how can i tell what program is useing my cd drive?
[21:51] <AdrianStrays> I said please insert yadada into /cdroom/
[21:51] <IndyGunFreak> AdrianStrays: open synaptic, and disable the "CD" from your repositories
[21:51] <AdrianStrays> It
[21:51] <un0p> DrNoboto, without the /usr properly in place a lot of the tools are simply going to fail .. if fsck couldnt fully recover the volume, the only thing to do is probably reinstall or restore from backup
[21:51] <joel> smithey: are you having problems having it eject?
[21:51] <DrNoboto> mmm
[21:51] <DrNoboto> i don't like that
[21:51] <dotech> joel: awesome, thanks!
[21:52] <smithey93> joel: yea the lights going crazy on it i dont have anything visibly open useing it
[21:52] <NyCGuY> I have tried everything I possibly can, I cannot get my "VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller" to work with Edgy 6.10... it's perfect with Gutsy 7.10... any advice?
[21:52] <joel> dotech: no problem
[21:52] <IndyGunFreak> AdrianStrays: open synaptic, click Settings/Repositories, then at the bottom, uncheck CD, and make sure the boxes are all checked on the first tab.
[21:52] <joel> smithey: I get that sometimes too and can never figure it out so I reboot (lazy way to fix it ;) )
[21:52] <AdrianStrays> Okay
[21:52] <smithey93> joel: nicely done (ctrl + alt + backspace tbh)
[21:53] <joel> yeah that's what I meant ;) reboot in linux usually just comes down to that ;)
[21:53] <Strang3love> after running sudo apt-get -f install, it says that there is a dpkg error processing a package.  it was trying to over write  `/usr/lib/evas/modules/engines/buffer/linux-gnu-i486/module.so', which is also in package libevas0-engine-buffer.  any ideas?
[21:53] <joel> strang: sorry I have no idea what the issue is
[21:53] <ryanzec> joel, it is still not working
[21:53] <N3WFI3> sup
[21:53] <maarek_> question:  any ZIP file I download turns into an AIR file when I click on it
[21:53] <N3WFI3> is there anyway to make the email client check for emails on startup?
[21:53] <smithey93> joel: sorted
[21:53] <maarek_> how do I unpackage a ZIP file?
[21:54] <alan_m> N3WFI3, which one are you using?
[21:54] <N3WFI3> evolution
[21:54] <joel> ryan: that is really strange, I just did this yesterday for my roomates girlfriend, what I did: first make sure that the command is in the line of compiz, add "compiz" to sessions and then "reboot" ;)
[21:54] <IndyGunFreak> maarek_: just double clcik it, i think ark will handle it.
[21:54] <smithey93> maarek_: just right hand click and click extact archive or open it in file roller
[21:54] <maarek_> okay, thanks guys, I'll try that
[21:54] <smithey93> maarek_: go for it
[21:55] <N3WFI3> i'm using the one bundled with ubuntu
[21:55] <danand__> maarek_ - or type unzip file.zip in a terminal :)
[21:55] <joel> ryan: if you pm me I can maybe remote connect to see it, I'm not sure if I'm allowed to do that through irc though
[21:55] <NyCGuY> I have tried everything I possibly can, I cannot get my "VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller" to work with Edgy 6.10... it's perfect with Gutsy 7.10... any advice?
[21:55] <julio_neto> Guys! My MP4 player have 1 GB of space. I cleaned it, but now it shows only 41 Mb of free space! Can you help me???
[21:55] <smithey93> joel: thanks, it appears 2 be working now
[21:55] <joel> julio: you probably didn't actually get the files off of there at all, go to the actual mount point and see where the space is being used
[21:55] <joel> sure thing smithey
[21:56] <smithey93> julio_neto: enable hidden files in natalius (like computer) by going veiw, then hidden files, then delete a folder like .trash or something like that
[21:56] <alan_m> N3WFI3, yeah, i know of a few applets that can do that, is that what your looking for? or are you looking for an actual setting in evolution itself?
[21:56] <ryanzec> joel you say make soure the command is in the line of compiz, how do i do that?
[21:56] <AdrianStrays> Where are wireless drivers usually stored in Vista?
[21:56] <julio_neto> smithey93, good pointed! i'll see it
[21:56] <N3WFI3> well if evolution can do it by itself it would be cool
[21:57] <N3WFI3> i thought i read somewhere that it cant check at startup
[21:57] <alan_m> N3WFI3, let me see what I can dig out for you, i think its called mail-notifier simply in synaptic, not positive so ill brb dont go anywhere.
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[21:57] <julio_neto> joel, i saw it... but it still show 41 Mb free
[21:57] <edju> hp laptop.  wireless works - atheros chipset.  just that the led does not work.  google has not helped.  just on the off chance somebody here has solved this, any pointers?
[21:58] <Enix> hello all, trying to burn ubuntu 7 that is .iso via nero and i keep getting nero error 'Not a valid nero disc image file'  what is going on? trying to make a live cd (boot cd). TIA
[21:58] <N3WFI3> cool
[21:58] <joel> julio: you saw where the space is being used, delete it, and if it's in .trash (which is a hidden folder) delete it from there to permanently delete it
[21:58] <Exteris> Enix, try imgburn, http://imgburn.com
[21:58] <alx75775> waaahhh how is this possible
[21:58] <alx75775> /media$ dir
[21:58] <alx75775> bekloppt  cdrom0  floppy0  cdrom cdrom1
[21:58] <alx75775> /media$ cd /bekloppt
[21:58] <alx75775> bash: cd: /Eigenschaften: No such file or directory
[21:58] <alx75775> this makes no sense!!!!!!!!!!
[21:59] <alan_m> N3WFI3, its simply called evolution-plugins
[21:59] <joel> Enix: where did you get the iso from?
[21:59] <Enix> i did, got similar error, also tried magicISO and power ISO
[21:59] <alan_m> N3WFI3, just grab that and you will have it :D
[21:59] <N3WFI3> ok i will search it
[21:59] <Exteris> alx75775, perhaps without the /
[21:59] <N3WFI3> i just started using ubuntu today man its pretty sweet :)
[21:59] <alx75775> aah
[21:59] <Enix> torrent, the one from official website was same, *.iso
[21:59] <N3WFI3> everything is better
[21:59] <alx75775> thx exteris
[21:59] <Exteris> Enix, try downloading the iso again, and verifyng it
[21:59] <alx75775> i am so dumb^
[22:00] <joel> yeah that would be my suggestions too
[22:00] <NyCGuY> I have tried everything I possibly can, I cannot get my "VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller" to work with Edgy 6.10... it's perfect with Gutsy 7.10... any advice?
[22:00] <alan_m> n3wfI3, im glad you like it, ive been using it for close to 3 years now :)
[22:00] <AdrianStrays> Where are the wireless drivers normally stored in vista?
[22:00] <redtide> quick question...how do you log in as root so i don't have to keep typing sudo for everything?
[22:00] <danand__> alx75775 - is /bekloppt a symlink to /Eigenschaften ?
[22:00] <N3WFI3> the text rendering is top notch
[22:00] <Mehal> is there anyone here that knows how to deal with intel graphics cards?
[22:00] <N3WFI3> and gui and programs do anything u need haha
[22:00] <Enix> how would i verify, d-loading from officail mirror now, ultra-slow, expect same results
[22:00] <smithey93> joel: 10% encording allready and ive just started less then a min ago, it must love my duel core 6400+/4gig ram :)
[22:00] <ethan961> !gma
[22:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gma - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:01] <julio_neto> I fixed it guys!
[22:01] <joel> Enix: how fast is your connection?
[22:01] <julio_neto> tks all you!
[22:01] <smithey93> julio_neto: cool, was it the .trash folder?
[22:01] <alan_m> !root | redtide
[22:01] <ubotu> redtide: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[22:01] <Enix> joel: roughly 120k from mirror
[22:01] <DrNoboto> the truth
[22:01] <DrNoboto> heh
[22:02] <joel> smithey: glad it's working out for you, sometimes dvd's can't be read by dvd shrink.....
[22:02] <bulio|> I'm currently running a Ubuntu Server with an 80GB main hard drive and a 120GB storage drive
[22:02] <joel> Enix: if you have cable connection you might want to try another torrent from torrent search or something like that, I can get up to 1.2 megs a second for Ubuntu Gutsy
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[22:02] <dotech> joel: since i have 3 monitors i have to make them separate X displays, correct?
[22:02] <smithey93> joel: i love dvd shrink, i forgot 2 try it on wine, i missed it when i moved from virus-os
[22:02] <bulio|> I want to reformat my 80GB drive, and partition it so Ubuntu gets 15GB, and the remainder is dedicated to storage
[22:03] <julio_neto> smithey93, no
[22:03] <bulio|> is it best to partition the 65GB left as /home?
[22:03] <joel> dotech: I'm not sure if twinview can do 3 monitors, I've never used 3 monitors before....too much for me
[22:03] <bulio|> or partition it completely separate, and mount the partition in fstab
[22:03] <smithey93> julio_neto: oh, what was it?
[22:03] <dotech> joel: alright, i'll mess around with this, thanks
[22:03] <bulio|> also, how much space should a ubuntu server install have?
[22:03] <bulio|> I just want LAMP for home stuff, and GNUMP3D
[22:04] <bulio|> is 15GB too much, or enough?
[22:04] <bubu1uk> bulio| dependes if u need/want that much for home. both could be alright. dependes on your needs
[22:04] <GIn> bulio|: 15 is more than enough
[22:04] <bubu1uk> bulio| yes, it is enough.
[22:04] <bulio|> GIn: could I go down to 10?
[22:04] <Qu3n71N> hi all
[22:04] <GIn> bulio|: yes
[22:04] <bulio|> and is /home a good idea, or make a storage partition?
[22:04] <alan_m> hello Qu3n71N
[22:04] <bubu1uk> bulio| 7 would be ok.
[22:04] <simplexio> bulio|: depends alot what you plan to do
[22:04] <larsx2> yo
[22:05] <Qu3n71N> iam here for first time
[22:05] <bulio|> simplexio: well, all the server acts as is a NAS
[22:05] <bubu1uk> bulio| /home or storage. it dependes on your needs. both are ok.
[22:05] <GIn> bulio|: if it is fr a LAMP server, I would make a partition for /var instead
[22:05] <bulio|> bubu1uk: if Ubuntu crashes or something, will my /home be recoverable?
[22:05] <NyCGuY> I have tried everything I possibly can, I cannot get my "VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller" to work with Edgy 6.10... it's perfect with Gutsy 7.10... any advice?
[22:05] <simplexio> bulio|: minimal server with only needed stuff easily lives in 15G
[22:05] <alan_m> Qu3n71N, what can we help you with today?
[22:05] <GIn> bulio|: but a /home will do too.
[22:05] <larsx2> i have only one question about Load cycle count on gutsy anyone can help?
[22:06] <bulio|> I guess 10GB for Ubuntu Server, and 70GB for /home
[22:06] <bulio|> then put all my storage in there
[22:06] <N3WFI3> nope
[22:06] <bulio|> as long as I can recover the data if ubuntu crashes
[22:06] <simplexio> bulio|: thats good idea
[22:06] <N3WFI3> i dont think the plugin checks at startup
[22:06] <bulio|> but /home can be recovered just as easily as a separate storage partition?
[22:06] <larsx2> anyone?
[22:06] <simplexio> bulio|: just remeber that gloval /tmp isnt mentioned for big tmp data :) like i did
[22:06] <bulio|> mounted under /mnt/storage say?
[22:07] <alan_m> n3wfI3, sorry...i thought it did.
[22:07] <N3WFI3> h:)
[22:07] <N3WFI3> :)
[22:07] <kenan__> hi guys, how can I shorten the margin between the edge of my screen and my aligned icons. When i try to move it closer it doesnt let me unless I uncheck "Keep Aligned".
[22:07] <iGama> Hy ya all
[22:07] <iGama> !
[22:07] <larsx2> ~_~
[22:07] <bulio|> simplexio: /tmp /var and such will live in the 10GB / partition
[22:07] <N3WFI3> its ok i'm just lazy and dont want to press the check email button
[22:07] <N3WFI3> lol
[22:07] <simplexio> bulio|: apache/postgresql/mysql etc programs default to /var/
[22:08] <Strang3love> i am having some dependency issues can someone help?  http://pastebin.com/d79100034
[22:08] <bubu1uk> bulio| if / partition is separate then /home then you can recover easily.
[22:08] <simplexio> bulio|: so if you dont plan to use big databses or big www-pages then 10G for / is enougth
[22:08] <bulio|> simplexio: perfect, thanks
[22:09] <simplexio> bulio|: and if you notice that /var or another directory starts to eat too much space, its just adding one hd more and moving dir to it and mounting it on /whatever
[22:09] <larsx2> i have only one question about Load cycle count on gutsy anyone can help?
[22:09] <alan_m> N3WFI3, it should have been when you first set up evolution, i just found that setting, its deep within the preferences :D
[22:10] <bulio|> simplexio: is that likely to happen? Because i don't want to partition 10GB, have lots of data on the other 70GB, then have to lose stuff
[22:10] <N3WFI3> really? lol
[22:10] <N3WFI3> i will have a look
[22:10] <alan_m> n3wfI3, yup :)
[22:10] <simplexio> bulio|: ?
 bulio|: and if you notice that /var or another directory starts to eat too much space, its just adding one hd more and moving dir to it and mounting it on /whatever
[22:11] <Strang3love> http://pastebin.com/d79100034  having dependency issue, can anyone help
[22:11] <N3WFI3> i know there is an option to check every few minutes but i don't see the startup :/
[22:11] <HorizonXP> hey
[22:11] <simplexio> bulio|: "you are planning now do two partiotion, one / and one /home, if in future you see that /var need more space its just adding more hard disks
[22:12] <HorizonXP> how do I create an ad-hoc wireless network, so my gf can connect her WinXP laptop to the internet through mine
[22:12] <vinoo> i've been having  a problem with intel graphic controller and widescreen, can anybody help me? already tried 915resolution but it didn't work
[22:12] <alx75775> pleeease help me: i cannot open fstab as root!! this should be really easy, but there are errors anyway! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62367/
[22:13] <Qu3n71N> alan_m: thank u 4 your guess. i just hanging around
[22:13] <phoenix5002> can someone please help me install open source ATI drivers?
[22:13] <Exteris> alx75775, it's /etc/fstab, not /etx/fstab
[22:13] <gregcha117> i have no sound although alsa appears to be working fine what can i do to get my sound back?
[22:13] <alx75775> oh no
[22:14] <alx75775> thanks exteris, im making really stupid mistakes o0
[22:14] <ries_> hi i'm a newby and please tell me where to go for simple simple help
[22:14] <joel> ries: help with what kind of stuff?
[22:14] <joel> linuxforums.org/forum is a good place to start
[22:15] <simplexio> bulio|: in windows if you get C: drive full, you need bigger C: drive or you need delete stuff, in linux if let says /home is full, you can just add hard disk, and mount it to, lets say /home/bulio/, because his files takes 90% of old home capasity
[22:15] <ries_> i have ubunta
[22:15] <ries_> u
[22:15] <simplexio> bulio|: understand what im saying
[22:15] <joel> ries: go to linuxforums and search for whatever you want, there are a lot of how to's and good help there
[22:15] <smithey93> i was thinking more ubuntuforums.com
[22:15] <larsx2> smartctl says my Load_Cycle Count is increasing like 1000 values per day , i have laptop mode off, that means my hdd is dying?
[22:15] <smithey93> rites: ubuntuforums.org, a good place 2 start
[22:15] <Qu3n71N> using anybody HP Insight Manager on Ubuntu Server 6.10?
[22:15] <ries_> problem has to do with knowing if my computer has all it takes to run skype
[22:15] <Strang3love> http://pastebin.com/d79100034  can anyone help with a dependency issue?
[22:16] <alteregoa> i got a question
[22:16] <alteregoa> how can i enlage it?
[22:16] <joel> ries: just do sudo apt-get intsasll skype
[22:16] <phoenix5002> I am having trouble following this tutorial: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[22:16] <phoenix5002> under the section that says "Removing the proprietary fglrx driver"
[22:16] <NyCGuY> I am trying to apply a patch to the 915Resolution package, and am having trouble compiling the files afterwards. I have a feeling that I don't know how to compile this ;-)... Are there common libriares I need to get?
[22:16] <joel> sudo apt-get install skype
[22:16] <iGama> ries_, if you have a mic, just install skype
[22:16] <ries_> as a newbie / y there is no such thing as just
[22:16] <gregcha117> how can i get my sound back ?
[22:16] <joel> go to terminal and type sudo apt-get install skype
[22:16] <alteregoa> how can i enlarge the swap partition?
[22:16] <iGama> ries_, install skype and test it
[22:16] <blue-frog> larsx2: what's the value of load cycle?
[22:17] <joel> gparted can be used to make it bigger (swap)
[22:17] <iGama> there is no better way of knowing
[22:17] <ries_> u should have told me "go to applications, etc"
[22:17] <iGama> If you go to Skype.com, download the debian file
[22:17] <iGama> the .DEB
[22:17] <iGama> and run it
[22:17] <larsx2> thnx 4 response
[22:17] <smithey93> wouldnt it be better for them to learn how to apt-get install programs?
[22:17] <joel> ries: should get used to apt-get and synaptic, it's where Ubuntu beats a lot of other open source packages
[22:17] <charles|64> is there a volume and track control screenlet for amarok?
[22:18] <iGama> smithey93,
[22:18] <iGama> skype is not in the official repositories
[22:18] <iGama> so there is no point for that in this case
[22:18] <slipttees> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV6 [Vanta/Vanta LT] (rev 15) have support for 3D acelerate ?
[22:18] <edugonch> Hello, If I install the beta realize of ubuntu 8.04 I can latter update to the stable version_
[22:18] <smithey93> iGama: oh, sh!t i thought it was, my bad
[22:18] <Ax-Ax> hello
[22:18] <Survivorman> edugonch, yes
[22:18] <joel> but adding a repo is pretty easy
[22:18] <Eroick> are there any good RTS games for linux/ubuntu?
[22:19] <edugonch> Cool... thanks
[22:19] <iGama> 2º New users should learn to use the graphical interface first, to understand the concepts, and then evolve to terminal mode :p
[22:19] <iGama> thats my ideias :)
[22:19] <joel> and also is something that every Ubuntu user should know how to od
[22:19] <Strang3love> i am having a dependency issue, can anyone help?  http://pastebin.com/d79100034
[22:19] <HorizonXP> how do I create an ad-hoc wireless network, so my gf can connect her WinXP laptop to the internet through mine
[22:19] <vikram> What is the latest version of Ubuntu?
[22:19] <iGama> Strang3love,
[22:19] <Odd-rationale> vikram: 7.10
[22:19] <iGama> Strang3love,  do this : sudo aptitude -f install
[22:19] <joel> latest stable is 7.10
[22:19] <Ax-Ax> i have a annoying problem.. my computer runs ntp automaticly but it doesn't help
[22:19] <vikram> Ok thanks
[22:19] <joel> 8.04 is in beta and will be released in 3 weeks
[22:19] <iGama> sudo aptitude install -f
[22:19] <smithey93> vikram: 7.10 gusty, but 8.04 will be releast soon it
[22:20] <iGama> it will give you a solution to resolve that
[22:20] <smithey93> what joel said :)
[22:20] <phoenix5002> I'm trying to install the open source ATI driver, and a tutorial says to check the vendor with "glxinfo | grep vendor" and if it says ATI your good, if it says SGI (which is what mine says) then it means that when I installed "fglrx" it overwrote my libGL.so file, but the tutorial does NOT mention what to do if this is the case, it just goes on assuming that you saw "ATI" for the vendor.  How can I get my original libGL.so file back?
[22:20] <vikram> ok
[22:20] <blue-frog> larsx2: so?
[22:20] <Ax-Ax> if i kill ntp and start it again, the time becomes correct
[22:20] <alsadk> how can i upgrade to gnome 2.22?
[22:20] <Qu3n71N> using anybody HP Insight Manager on Ubuntu Server 6.10?
[22:20] <Odd-rationale> alsadk: wait for hardy ;)
[22:20] <iGama> phoenix24, reinstall the xserver-xorg-ati package
[22:21] <redwhitewaldo>  i plugged in camera to usb, powered on camera, but no icon on desktop. when i do the same with my iPod, it works. lsusb indicates recognition of camera
[22:21] <iGama> i think thats the right name, but check in synaptic
[22:21] <phoenix5002> iGama: I tried that, marked it for reinstallation and clicked apply
[22:21] <smithey93> i want a dock for my ubuntu, any1 any idea which 1 to use?
[22:21] <iGama> smithey93, AWN
[22:21] <alsadk>  <Odd-rationale> so i can't upgrade right now ?
[22:21] <iGama> get it in getdeb.net
[22:21] <Strang3love> iGama: the info in the paste bin is the output from apt-get -f install
[22:22] <smithey93> iGama: sudo apt-get install advent-window-navigator ?
[22:22] <iGama> Strang3love, use aptitude
[22:22] <bubu1uk> redwhitewaldo: is camera setup to work as usb drive? otherwise check if it works with some pics program as PTP.
[22:22] <Survivorman> HorizonXP, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Adhoc
[22:22] <iGama> it works diffently that apt-get
[22:22] <phoenix5002> iGama: I switched to Hardy Heron... but I'm sure thats not causing the problem because I had open source drivers working in Hardy, and then I changed to fglrx and now I'm having a problem getting back to the open source drivers.
[22:22] <Qu3n71N> http://ubuntuguide.org/
[22:22] <alteregoa> new kernel of hardy is bugy
[22:22] <iGama> smithey93, nopes, not in repositórios
[22:22] <redwhitewaldo> bubu1uk: i don't know. how do i figure out answer to your question?
[22:22] <jjnull> hi
[22:22] <Pici> !hardy
[22:22] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[22:22] <smithey93> do i have to build for source or is the a deb package?
[22:22] <CShadowRun> haha, sweet
[22:22] <CShadowRun> the new version is released on my birthday
[22:22] <Odd-rationale> alsadk: I suppose you could...
[22:22] <CShadowRun> 1x sweet birthday present, lol
[22:22] <jjnull> someone is expert on wubi?
 how?
[22:22] <iGama> phoenix5002, sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri
[22:23] <iGama> ?
[22:23] <smithey93> CShadowRun: haha, nice 1
[22:23] <joel> smithey: you looking at installing awn?
[22:23] <phoenix5002> iGama: I tried that too
[22:23] <N3WFI3> how do i allow email pictures in evolution?
[22:23] <jjnull> I have found that wubi uses the option root=uuid=.........
[22:23] <iGama> smithey93, go to getdeb.net
[22:23] <Odd-rationale> alsadk: idk. i'm kde user...
[22:23] <N3WFI3> seems like they blocked by default
[22:23] <smithey93> joel: yea, i loves docks
[22:23] <ries_> joel if I say please explain this like im a 2yold that is exactly what I mean. I did not know I had to go to applications first of all
[22:23] <iGama> and download the .deb
[22:23] <smithey93> ah getdeb, just a dec
 thx
[22:23] <smithey93> sec*
[22:23] <GIn> it would be nice if gnome can notify me when my / is 99% full instead of 100%. :(
[22:23] <joel> you can do it through repos
[22:23] <redwhitewaldo> how can i figure out whether my camera is set up to work as USB drive?
[22:23] <alsadk> how can i upgrade to gnome 2.22?
[22:23] <jjnull> but what is that uuid?
[22:23] <phoenix5002> iGama: is there a way I can just directly reinstall the libGL.so file or package?
[22:23] <joel> it's pretty nice, I've used it for awhile
[22:23] <CShadowRun> I just installed pulseaudio according to this tutorial, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio and when i try to use wine it says it doesn't have access to a bunch of pulse files, and the audio doesn't work.
[22:23] <joel> it's the identifier for the individual partition
[22:23] <CShadowRun> anyone got any ideas how i would fix that?
[22:23] <gregcha117> my sound is broken can someone please help me ive been coming here for weeks and no ones helped me out
[22:23] <Strang3love> iGama: output of aptitude install -f
[22:24] <Strang3love> http://pastebin.com/d41420277
[22:24] <smithey93> joel: i think ive tried it once, will you guys help me set it up, because i couldnt get it working once before
[22:24] <iGama> Strang3love, didnt it give you a solution?
[22:25] <smithey93> joel: sudo apt-get install WHAT? lol
[22:25] <Strang3love> it did i accepted it and it failed
[22:25] <iGama> smithey93, download the .deb of AWN
[22:25] <joel> sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator
[22:26] <joel> smithey: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=385981
[22:26] <smithey93> iGama: joels right, u can get it in repos
[22:26] <iGama> yep
[22:26] <iGama> i know
[22:26] <phoenix5002> what package contains the "libGL.so" file?
[22:26] <smithey93> beryl vs compiz
[22:26] <iGama> libgl1-mesa
[22:26] <iGama> phoenix5002, libgl1-mesa
[22:26] <CShadowRun> smithey93 compiz :p
[22:26] <jjnull> someone can help me?
[22:26] <iGama> compiz
[22:26] <iGama> beryl is dead
[22:27] <smithey93> how do i go about installings it?
[22:27] <ethan961> no, beryl is now compiz-fusion
[22:27] <CShadowRun> smithey93 compiz fusion IS beryl, they combined into one thing.
[22:27] <iGama> compiz is already installed in Ubuntu Gutsy
[22:27] <smithey93> ah
[22:27] <smithey93> how do i install/enable it?
[22:27] <redwhitewaldo> bubu1uk: you there?
[22:27] <iGama> System - Preferences - Aperance - Effects
[22:27] <iGama> ( sorry my bad english lol )
[22:27] <Strang3love> iGama: any ideas about the dependency issue?
[22:28] <smithey93> normal or extra?
[22:28] <joel> smithey: just run avant-window-navigator from terminal
[22:28] <joel> and you can add it also in sessions
[22:28] <N3WFI3> will utorrent ever come to linux?
[22:28] <iGama> what ever you what
[22:28] <smithey93> utorrent runs in wine
[22:28] <iGama> N3WFI3, no
[22:28] <N3WFI3> oh
[22:28] <iGama> but it runs on wine
[22:28] <iGama> :)
[22:28] <N3WFI3> haha
[22:28] <bubu1uk> redwhitewaldo: yes, sorry, not watching channel much.
[22:28] <iGama> i use deluge
[22:28] <N3WFI3> i dont have wine :p
[22:28] <joel> smithey for compiz get compizconfig-settings-manager
[22:28] <iGama> exacly, what joel said :)
[22:28] <mariobro> how do I create a separate partition for / and /home in ubuntu 7.10?
[22:28] <redwhitewaldo> bubu1uk: question: how can i figure out whether my camera is set up to work as USB drive?
[22:28] <smithey93> THE COMPOSITE EXTENSION IS NOT AVAILBLE? what does that mean?
[22:29] <Lokii-> !topic
[22:29] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[22:29] <ethan961> Transmission FTW
[22:29] <iGama> smithey93, whats your graphic card?
[22:29] <smithey93> ati :(
[22:29] <smithey93> erm,
[22:29] <iGama> what ati
[22:29] <unocrash> MY KEYBOARD MESSED UP.
[22:29] <bubu1uk> redwhitewaldo: can you check in camera's settings? my old hp had that setting there
[22:29] <smithey93> radion x1550
[22:29] <smithey93> no wait
[22:29] <mariobro> how do you check graphics card?
[22:29] <redwhitewaldo> bubu1uk: you mean on my camera itself?
[22:29] <Lokii-> hardy still beta ????
[22:29] <smithey93> its asus, with a ati chitset
[22:29] <ries_> joel i did what u suggested and now get that skype is ready. having trouble with password
[22:29] <redwhitewaldo> Lokii-: yes
[22:29] <phoenix5002> iGama: I reinstalled the libgl1-mesa packages and it didn't work.  Still says vendor is SGI.
[22:29] <redwhitewaldo> until end of month
[22:29] <unocrash> THOUGH IT WASNT ERLIER
[22:29] <iGama> install the latest drivers with Envy
[22:29] <joel> ries: what problem?
[22:29] <ethan961> Hardy still beta.
[22:29] <bubu1uk> redwhitewaldo: what type of camera you have? and yes, on camera, not pc
[22:29] <smithey93> iGama, what did u say 2 do?
[22:30] <redwhitewaldo> i have a canon powershot a60
[22:30] <snowolf> toh another wolf :)
[22:30] <phoenix5002> iGama: my card isn't supported by Envy
[22:30] <unocrash> DOES ANYONE KNOW WHY MY KEYBOARD IS MESSED UP?
[22:30] <iGama> is to smithey93 :)
[22:30] <whitewolf> hello snowolf
[22:30] <redwhitewaldo> bubu1uk: canon powershot a60 ... is rather old.
[22:30] <smithey93> iGama: what do i do to make it work? is it possible
[22:30] <SpudDogg> unocrash:  did you plug it in in?
[22:30] <iGama> smithey93, Download Envy
[22:30] <larsx2> WHAT IS THENORMAL INCREASE FOR LOAD_CYCLE COUNT in a HDD????
[22:30] <iGama> http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[22:30] <unocrash> HOW U THINK IM TYPING?
[22:30] <iGama> it will install the latest ATI driver
[22:30] <charles|64> ok question, I have thunderbird installed and configured and when i click a mailto in firefox it automatically wants to open evolution. how do i change this to open composer for thunderbird?
[22:30] <Lokii-> !caps
[22:30] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[22:30] <ethan961> !caps
[22:31] <SpudDogg> unocrash:  speech-to-text?  seriously though, check out your keymap settings
[22:31] <smithey93> iGama: where from?
[22:31] <iGama> http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[22:31] <unocrash> THE CAPS LOCK IS OFF, AND MY HANDS NOT ON THE SHIFT KEY, BUT MY LETTERS ARE STILL UPPERCASE.
[22:31] <iGama> charles__,
[22:31] <unocrash> ahh
[22:31] <unocrash> nvm
[22:31] <iGama> charles__, System - Preferences - Prefered Applications
[22:31] <Survivorman> charles__, system > preferences > preferred applications
[22:31] <SpudDogg> unocrash:  sounds like it could be a hardware issue
[22:31] <iGama> choose thunderbird there
[22:31] <iGama> smithey93, http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/legacy/envy_0.9.10-0ubuntu10_all.deb
[22:31] <smithey93> iGama: ty downloading it now
[22:31] <unocrash> the caps lock on makes its so lowercase comes
[22:31] <ethan961> thunderbird ftw
[22:32] <iGama> good :)
[22:32] <iGama> install it
[22:32] <unocrash> i'll re-plug it
[22:32] <iGama> and run it
[22:32] <unocrash> brb
[22:32] <MasterMel> need help.. i cant change my resolution and now i am stuuck to 640x.. resolution.. anybody knows how to fix this? i am running the normal vesa drivers
[22:32] <joel_> does anyone have a startup script to fix a floating cursor due to a trackpoint error
[22:32] <iGama> it will install the latest driver
[22:32] <iGama> and let it configure your xorg
[22:32] <smithey93> iGama: Installing ,, :)
[22:32] <unocrash> NOPE
[22:32] <charles|64> anyone?
[22:32] <joel> lol another joel.....now I have to change my name dangit
[22:32] <iGama> charles|64, , System - Preferences - Prefered Applications
[22:32] <unocrash> HMMM
[22:32] <joel_> lol...sorry?
[22:32] <mariobro> When I try to enable extra effects, it says "Desktop effects could not be enabled"  How can I enable them?
[22:32] <bubu1uk> redwhitewaldo: my canon works in PTP mode. try open f-spot and if that can recognize it.
[22:33] <unocrash> oh well
[22:33] <Stefan57> Hi Guys!Using Webmin I'm having problem to setup my DNS server. After I created a Master Zone, I'm trying to create a Slave Zone, but it complain Zone already exists?
[22:33] <iGama> mariobro, what is your graphic card?
[22:33] <mariobro> how do i tell
[22:33] <ethan961> mariobro: have desktop effects worked for you before?
[22:33] <charles|64> iGama: thanks i found it right before you posted but your right]
[22:33] <iGama> dont you know what you have?
[22:33] <mariobro> no
[22:33] <iGama> mariobro, open a terminal
[22:33] <mariobro> ok
[22:33] <levander> I need to make a bootable CD with this ISO I have.  Is it just a matter of the ISO image being bootable, or do I need the CD burning software to make it bootable?
[22:33] <iGama> and type : lspci | grep VGA
[22:34] <unocrash> hmmmm
[22:34] <unocrash> oh well
[22:34] <MasterMel> need help.. i cant change my resolution and now i am stuuck to 640x.. resolution.. anybody knows how to fix this? i am running the normal vesa drivers
[22:34] <smithey93> im getting a new graphics card soon, like all i do is play CoD4 and open arena, what you guys recomend?
[22:34] <unocrash> !spci
[22:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spci - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:34] <iGama> mariobro,  and type : lspci | grep VGA
[22:34] <joel_getoffmynam> smithey: how's it coming along?
[22:34] <iGama> it will say whats your vga
[22:34] <Survivorman> !iso | levander
[22:34] <ethan961> smithey93: anything nVIDIA
[22:34] <ubotu> levander: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[22:34] <mariobro> it printed
[22:34] <smithey93> joel: coming on nicely, just installing
[22:34] <unocrash> !MD5
[22:34] <ubotu> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[22:35] <redwhitewaldo> bubu1uk: i don't think my canon powershot a60 has a "usb drive" option in the camera's settings.
[22:35] <iGama> smithey93, let is change your xorg
[22:35] <joel_getoffmynam> you can also check out awn curves: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=572019
[22:35] <smithey93> ethan961: hmm 8800gt ive been told, how much they go for
[22:35] <iGama> mariobro, what did it say?
[22:35] <smithey93> iGama, all it done was install
[22:35] <levander> Survivorman: That info has nothing about bootable CD's.
[22:35] <ethan961> smithey93: a bit, lemme check
[22:35] <smithey93> and it said
[22:35] <smithey93> done
[22:35] <iGama> smithey93, now run it :p
[22:35] <unocrash> whats a good Sypke like applcation
[22:35] <Survivorman> levander, you can burn an image in gnomebaker, brasero or k3b
[22:35] <smithey93> iGama, how?
[22:35] <unocrash> skype like /correction
[22:35] <iGama> Applications - System Tools - Envy
[22:35] <smithey93> oh
[22:35] <ethan961> unocrash:  gizmo
[22:35] <smithey93> run avn?
[22:35] <iGama> Envy
[22:35] <mariobro> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS485 [Radeon Xpress 1100 IGP]
[22:35] <mariobro> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS485 [Radeon Xpress 1100 IGP]
[22:35] <mariobro> .1:05.0 VGA compatible controller:  ATI Technologies Ine RS485 [Radeon Xpress 1100 IGP]  is that enough?
[22:35] <FloodBot2> mariobro: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:35] <ries_> joel: i try to call sb and it says Problem with sound device
[22:35] <mariobro> oops
[22:36] <smithey93> how do i run envy?
[22:36] <iGama> Applications - System Tools - Envy
[22:36] <bubu1uk> redwhitewaldo: yes, i don't think either, i think canon cameras work only in PTP mode. therefore you won't see it as usb drive on your desktop. but it should pop up with "what you wanna do" if you connect.
[22:36] <joel_> what file extension do i have to have and where do i put a startup script
[22:36] <ethan961> mariobro:  one line was enough
[22:36] <smithey93> ah
[22:36] <smithey93> doing it now
[22:36] <mariobro> lol  sorry
[22:36] <MasterMel> anyone ?
[22:36] <ethan961> its ok
[22:36] <iGama> mariobro, go to this website and download Envy, it will install the ATI driver for you : http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[22:36] <levander> Survivorman: I'm asking about the details of making a bootable CD.  Please re-read qusestion.
[22:36] <redwhitewaldo> bubu1uk: what do you mean by  "what you wanna do"
[22:36] <unocrash> Firefox 3 Beta 5 is out now. Mine just changed from 4 to 5
[22:36] <iGama> after envy is installed, run it: Applications - System Tools - Envy
[22:37] <unocrash> !C#
[22:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about c# - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:37] <mariobro> thank you
[22:37] <charles|64> MasterMel: whas the ?
[22:37] <iGama> reboot your machine, and you should have effects
[22:37] <unocrash> !C++
[22:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about c++ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:37] <smithey93> its downloading a new driver :D
[22:37] <Survivorman> if you have an iso, burn it as an iso image and it will be bootable
[22:37] <ethan961> smithey93: they go for around $220
[22:37] <LjL> !botabuse | unocrash
[22:37] <ubotu> unocrash: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[22:37] <MasterMel> anyone know how to get more resolution option? i am stuck to 640x400!!
[22:37] <unocrash> whoops
[22:37] <LjL> !gcc
[22:37] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[22:37] <unocrash> :-(
[22:37] <smithey93> ethan961: thanks, so thats about £110 in my money
[22:37] <bubu1uk> redwhitewaldo: basicaly will ask you what you want to do, if download pics etc. similar to windows popup windows if you wanna play/download, open folder etc..
[22:38] <Stefan57> Hi Guys!Using Webmin I'm having problem to setup my DNS server. After I created a Master Zone, I'm trying to create a Slave Zone, but it complain Zone already exists?
[22:38] <MasterMel> charles|64 sorry for that for i cannot read  the whole screen as i am stuck to this resolution
[22:38] <unocrash> is there a Mac OSX Simulator (Like WIne only runs mac programs)
[22:38] <ethan961> unocrash: why?
[22:38] <iGama> unocrash, not that i know of
[22:38] <unocrash> i want one
[22:38] <unocrash> ok
[22:38] <ethan961> why?
[22:38] <ethan961> no need imo
[22:38] <bubu1uk> redwhitewaldo: if you plug camera in, type dmesg in command line, if you get any output bout camera
[22:38] <unocrash> yes need imo
[22:39] <MasterMel> charles|64 : do you have a solution for this?
[22:39] <iGama> ethan961, he must be asking because of the .dmg files
[22:39] <bubu1uk> redwhitewaldo: goin away for a bit.
[22:39] <smithey93> still wgetting data :(
[22:39] <iGama> theres no way of opening macs .dmg files in linux
[22:39] <joel> I hate when people take my name and just add an _...they should ban that
[22:40] <xfa> i got problems with my fu****g audiosettings...
[22:40] <smithey93> is xchat the best app for irc in ubuntu?
[22:40] <xfa> i can't control the headphones output and the speakers separatly
[22:40] <ethan961> smithey93: no, IRSSI
[22:40] <Odd-rationale> !best | smithey93
[22:40] <ubotu> smithey93: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[22:41] <unocrash> smithey93: Pidgin imo
[22:41] <ethan961> IRSSI IMO.
[22:41] <MasterMel> how to get more resolution options in my vesa drivers list?
[22:41] <unocrash> or gaim
[22:41] <smithey93> hmm xchat seems pritty easy, but somewhat annoying
[22:41] <iGama> MasterMel, well, in the xorg.conf, did you change it there?
[22:41] <smithey93> pidgin = gaim :)
[22:41] <ries_> skype and I are still no friends as I am told that my sound decive is missing, where and how could I install it and is it a simple operation?
[22:41] <flavio_> Hi
[22:42] <ries_> hi
[22:42] <iGama> flavio_, boas
[22:42] <unocrash> Pidgin (once Gaim) is the best.
[22:42] <joel> ries: do you have sound in general? like can you play a cd or something like that and hear it?
[22:42] <ethan961> ries_: if you use alsa, is skype set to use alsa?
[22:42] <mariobro> how do I update?  I've installed ubuntu while not connected to the internet, and it's not installed anything yet?
[22:42] <unocrash> dont do !best on me
[22:42] <Ax-Ax> my comp starts a ntp socket thing on boot but it doesn't make anything better.. if i kill it and run ntpdate, it corrects the time. how can i find and change that thing?
[22:42] <flavio_> I have a problem. While putting the cursor on a mp3 file , the filebrowser freezes for a while. and I cant run mp3 files in file browser, whats the problem?
[22:42] <ries_> sometimes i can, sometimes not but there must be something
[22:42] <MasterMel> iGama: i did run the xorg configurator but it keeps coming up in the lower graphic resolution. is there an other way to fix this?
[22:42] <smithey93> i only use pidgin for like jabber/yahoo/m$n etc
[22:42] <redwhitewaldo> bubu1uk: no i don't get that "what would you want to do" window.
[22:42] <ethan961> mariobro: sudo apt-get upgrade in the terminal
[22:42] <unocrash> thank you
[22:42] <joel> you are being a bit too broad for us to help much
[22:42] <mariobro> thanks
[22:42] <smithey93> brb restarting.... lol
[22:43] <AHemlocksLie> Anyone here have any experience and/or knowledge trying to get World of Warcraft to work through Wine? I've been trying for days with no luck. It keeps making my computer freeze.
[22:43] <Armadillio> does anyone else have crashing issues when they try to upgrade?
[22:43] <iGama> mariobro, or graphicly in System - Administration - Update manager
[22:43] <redwhitewaldo> yikes, dmesg has a lot to say. isn't there a way to "filter" messages for only about camera?
[22:43] <Eisenhower> hey i need help. everytime itry to enable the restricted nvidia driver i get " the software source for the package nvidia-glx-new is not enabled
[22:43] <iGama> AHemlocksLie,
[22:43] <Eisenhower> how do i enable it?
[22:43] <ethan961> mariobro: do that AFTER sudo apt-get update
[22:44] <iGama> do you have the latest Wine? Didi you see wine's page on that matter?
[22:44] <ethan961> !upgrade
[22:44] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[22:44] <mariobro> ok
[22:44] <unocrash> My friend thinks ubuntu sucks, but it rules, though how do I get Wine?
[22:44] <unocrash> Thats we he doesn'tlike it
[22:44] <ethan961> unocrash: sudo apt-get install wine
[22:44] <joel> sudo apt-get wine
[22:44] <joel> sudo apt-get install wine**
[22:44] <iGama> http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[22:44] <unocrash> he doesn't knwo wine can can run windows
[22:44] <yuri_> hi, I'm looking for a desktop weather icon that is works like the one in the panel applets but gives mea  5 day forecast and P.O.P.
[22:44] <unocrash> thatnks
[22:44] <ethan961> wine cannot run windows
[22:44] <AHemlocksLie> iGama yeah, I've been hunting the internet for quite a while. I've tried everything I could find, and it's upped my time between crashes, but it hasn't actually fixed it.
[22:44] <iGama> get the lattest wine and repositories from http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[22:45] <ethan961> virtualisation technologies can run windows
[22:45] <Eisenhower> can anyone help me Out? bump*
[22:45] <Ax-Ax> anyone? my comp starts a ntp socket thing on boot but it doesn't make anything better.. if i kill it and run ntpdate, it corrects the time. how can i find and change that thing?
[22:45] <iGama> AHemlocksLie, http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=1922
[22:45] <unocrash> ok
[22:45] <flavio_> I have a problem. While putting the cursor on a mp3 file , the filebrowser freezes for a while. and I cant run mp3 files in file browser, whats the problem?
[22:45] <unocrash> will Office 2007 run on it?
[22:45] <iGama> Eisenhower,
[22:45] <ethan961> !repeat | Eisenhower
[22:45] <ubotu> Eisenhower: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[22:45] <joel> just get open office
[22:45] <iGama> Eisenhower, do this :
[22:45] <jk2> I'm a KDE guy trying out ubuntu for the first time on my laptop...  how can I disable this scrollkeeper crap that eats all my CPU?
[22:45] <smithey93> chears so much guys!! effects finally work
[22:45] <unocrash> I have openoffice.org
[22:45] <iGama> Eisenhower, do this : System - Administration - Software Sources - and activate the Sources repositories
[22:45] <joh> I've set FIREFOX_DSP="alsa" in /etc/firefox/firefoxrc, but when I try to play some flash movie I get the following: ALSA lib ../../../src/pcm/pcm.c:2106:(snd_pcm_open_conf) Cannot open shared library /usr/lib32/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_jack.so. I'm in 64bit, so I assume this is because flash-nonfree is emulated in 32-bit?
[22:46] <unocrash> joh: Use Patebin
[22:46] <joel> yeah, then why use MS Office....it's slow, bulky and....not good
[22:46] <unocrash> pastebin**
[22:46] <katmannsson> OK its me jPratt, I am Currently windows side But when im on Ubuntu i cant Connect to my wireless network
[22:46] <joel> lol
[22:46] <smithey93> whats the manager called for compiz-fusion?
[22:46] <bubu1uk> redwgutewaldo: do you get any output in dmesg?
[22:46] <mariobro> when I try to open the deb for Envy, it reads "Error:  Dependency is not satisfiable: debhelper"  What does this mean?
[22:46] <joh> unocrash: Why? It's only one line..?
[22:46] <unocrash> it's cool in imo
[22:46] <redwhitewaldo> bubu1uk: you back yet? i did dmesg, but don't know if i found camera
[22:46] <AHemlocksLie> iGama O: holy crap, there's a new bug report that might actually be the source of my problem. Awesome, thanks!
[22:46] <katmannsson> Joel, Onenote 07 is amazing
[22:46] <dell> there is a similar chat here but in spanish??
[22:46] <unocrash> in a way, but its very long
[22:46] <iGama> mariobro, it means it need to install something extra for it to work
[22:46] <iGama> let it install it
[22:46] <mariobro> like what?
[22:47] <joel> onenote has it's perks but it's still MS and isn't that great, there are other ways to do similar things
[22:47] <bubu1uk> redwhitewaldo: it should tell you bout new usb being attached to pc. is cable ok?
[22:47] <unocrash> just use pastebin, becayuse the channel doesnt get cluttered with a long error.
[22:47] <MasterMel> iGama: i did run the xorg configurator but it keeps coming up in the lower graphic resolution. is there an other way to fix this?
[22:47] <ethan961> smithey93: "compiz" in the terminal
[22:47] <dell> of ubuntu
[22:47] <unocrash> !pastebin > joh
[22:47] <iGama> mariobro, when you install the deb file, acceept the installation
[22:47] <smithey93> ty
[22:47] <dell> a ubuntu chat but in spanish
[22:47] <MeatGrinder> Anyone know of a GUI based zip utility?
[22:47] <iGama> it will install the dependencies it needs
[22:47] <Ax-Ax> bump, my comp starts a ntp socket thing on boot but it doesn't make anything better.. if i kill it and run ntpdate, it corrects the time. how can i find and change that thing?
[22:47] <iGama> dell #ubuntu-es
[22:47] <Eisenhower> iGama: i'm ther but dont' see source respositories
[22:47] <dell> thanks
[22:48] <unocrash> !#ubuntu-es | dell
[22:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-es - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:48] <smithey93> is it not emerald or sumin?
[22:48] <unocrash> !es
[22:48] <ubotu> Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:48] <joel> it's not emerald
[22:48] <redwhitewaldo> bubu1uk: cable itself is ok. indeed, lsusb indicates recognition of camera
[22:48] <iGama> Eisenhower, Source Code
[22:48] <unocrash> !es >dell
[22:48] <lerrakea> alguna chca???
[22:48] <joel> you can run emerald with it through by adding a line in the preferences
[22:48] <dotech> joel: 3 monitors are set up now :), 1680x1050, 1050x1680, 1680x1050.  Sweet!
[22:48] <ethan961> miranda!!!
[22:48] <ompaul> Ax-Ax, do this sudo ntpdate -u pool.ntp.org and if that works then you just need to do the gui trick which I will show you in a moment - if that works
[22:48] <jk2> !scrollkeeper
[22:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about scrollkeeper - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:48] <MeatGrinder> Anyone know of a GUI based zip utility? I'd like to be able to right click on a file in Nautilus and have a zip option in the context menu which pops up.
[22:48] <smithey93> joel: explain
[22:49] <bubu1uk> redwhitewaldo: have you tried to do it thru f-spot if you can download pics?
[22:49] <iGama> MasterMel, what is your graphic card?
[22:49] <ethan961> MeatGrinder: file-roller
[22:49] <Eisenhower> igama: i love you. Thanks so much for the help
[22:49] <unocrash> :)
[22:49] <iGama> MasterMel, change manually xorg.conf and add the Resolution you want
[22:49] <iGama> Eisenhower, *
[22:49] <Ax-Ax> ompaul: it setted the time
[22:49] <iGama> just helping the community
[22:49] <joel> if you go to system, preferences, advanced desktop settings, go to window decoration, in command type "replace --emerald" I believe
[22:49] <MeatGrinder> ethan961, thanks i'll take a look on synaptic for it
[22:49] <joel> then it will run emerald with compiz
[22:50] <tyler-_> hey guys, is there a way to adjust system volume in ubuntu?  The volume when I had windows on this laptop was much higher than it is on Ubuntu
[22:50] <ethan961> MeatGrinder:  it should be installed by deafult in ubuntu
[22:50] <joel> tyler: download alsamixergui and it will give you more control over volume
[22:50] <MasterMel> iGama: could you please explain what kind of command i need to type in terminal to do that?
[22:50] <iGama> it is
[22:50] <tyler-_> joel: thankee
[22:50] <iGama> MasterMel, ok
[22:50] <MeatGrinder> ethan961, ok i see it is there, guess I just don't know how to use it :)
[22:50] <iGama> do this : gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:51] <joel> the command is /usr/bin/emerald --replace
[22:51] <sluimers> hello
[22:51] <iGama> it will open the config file. Role down and you will see the resolution list with "640xdontknowwhat"
[22:51] <sluimers> I cannot get my wireless USB to get to work
[22:51] <iGama> just add before "1024x768" , save, reboot
[22:51] <sluimers> I mean my USB netwrok adapter
[22:51] <MeatGrinder> ethan961, does file-roller work in terminal only?
[22:52] <sluimers> network
[22:52] <iGama> sluimers, check wiki.ubuntu.com
[22:52] <sluimers> wifi
[22:52] <iGama> MeatGrinder, nopes, its graphical
[22:52] <Armadillio> anybody else having problems with updating on 8.04 either through a wireless connection or a ethernet connection?
[22:52] <ompaul> Ax-Ax, so go to the top right hand corner of the screen and right click on  the clock choose "adjust date and time" make sure you choose your time zone choose choose to keep it in sync with internet servers then add pool.ntp.org to the list - if you can't get to one you will get to another beats if your local one looses its internet connection
[22:52] <jk2> meh scrollkeeper is shit...  I just commented it the stupid cron.monthly entry...  quite frustrating they could have at least niced the bloody thing not to use all the cpu
[22:52] <iGama> It's the app that opens up when you open a .zip
[22:52] <iGama> or tar.gz
[22:53] <zero88> when using fluxbox. whats the command to use the gnome network montiro
[22:53] <iGama> if you what to open rar with it, you need to install the package "rar"
[22:53] <MeatGrinder> iGama, ah, it's called archive manager, I see. yeah i'm just trying to right click on file in Nautilus and compress like I can in windows..
[22:53] <smithey93> is there some sort of a graphical manager for compiz where u tick the boxs for the effects?
[22:53] <MeatGrinder> smithey93, I think Emerald will allow you to do that
[22:53] <iGama> smithey93, joel already told you that
[22:53] <joel> smithey: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[22:54] <smithey93> thanks sorry, i had xchat minimised
[22:54] <iGama> MeatGrinder, that is a diffente thing
[22:54] <hp> i have a folder that marked read-only
[22:54] <iGama> :)
[22:54] <sluimers> igama, thanks but then what? I can find the wireless router with USB adapter, but it just won't connect
[22:54] <hp> how do i modify that folder?
[22:54] <MeatGrinder> smithey93, or try searching from synaptic if you like :)
[22:54] <admin_> anyone know of one of those like, 3D landscaping open source programs?
[22:54] <MeatGrinder> iGama, any ideas?
[22:54] <ethan961> MeatGrinder: file-roller is GUI, it is the default "archive manager"
[22:54] <iGama> MeatGrinder, Right click on the folder and choose "Create Archive"
[22:55] <MeatGrinder> iGama, ill give that a try now thx
[22:55] <joel> smithey: after you install that it will be in system, preferences, advanced desktop settings
[22:55] <MeatGrinder> iGama, god I'm a moron
[22:55] <iGama> xD
[22:55] <MeatGrinder> iGama, found it finally thx to you!
[22:56] <iGama> bem, vou domir...
[22:56] <MeatGrinder> iGama, don't know how I missed that...thanks to you and ethan961
[22:56] <Ax-Ax> ompaul: ok
[22:56] <XB23> hey guys, Tasks: 237 total, 1 running
[22:56] <brainiac8008> hey guys how can the ubuntu livecd (specifically 7.10) allow you to install programs and configure files without writing anything to disk?
[22:56] <iGama> ups.. Well, im going to sleep
[22:56] <XB23> whats the 1 running mean?
[22:56] <iGama> brainiac8008, its all in memory
[22:56] <joel> brainiac: it's only in RAM, can't do anything but that
[22:57] <iGama> good night all
[22:57] <pzn> Hi! I have a partition hda3 that is FAT32, and it is automatically mounted by gutsy. how to configure it not to mount hda3?
[22:57] <brainiac8008> joel, i know but other distros can't do that.  is there something special that ubuntu has to do that?
[22:57] <joel> it's just the live aspect, you can do it with knoppix also
[22:57] <flavio_> how can I remove all panels from dekstop (gnome)
[22:58] <ries_> come on Joel now it is suddenly my fault - how can I know what skype means with 'Sound device missing and by the way it keeps telling me the logging in failed - is there a separate chat space for skype-related problems perhaps?
[22:58] <joel> pzn: sudo gedit /etc/fstab, look for your partition, edit the second thing in the row (probably like /media/hda3) to mount wherever you want it to mount
[22:58] <brainiac8008> joel, so why do i have around 800 or 850 mb of ram while running the livecd if i really have 2 gb?
[22:58] <joel> ries: if you are going to get rude I really don't have much else to offer, sorry
[22:58] <commonglass> question: is there a live CD/DVD that supports wifi (w/ lots of drivers), movie watching (w/ lots of codecs), and mIRC?
[22:59] <Flotto> what can i do if my dhclient dont want to work after recovering a backup?
[22:59] <joel> brainiac: actually not sure, if you type "top" in a terminal see what it shows for memory and such
[22:59] <bubu1uk> commonglass: try mint. maybe that one?
[22:59] <joel> commonglass: not that I know of for that much stuff....mint might do it but unlikely
[22:59] <brainiac8008> joel, actually not on livecd right now lol. will do when i get the chance
[22:59] <commonglass> bubu1uk: Mint?  Is there a website for that?
[23:00] <flavio_> how can I remove all panels from dekstop (gnome)
[23:00] <lUnchbOxXx> Hey everyone, I'm currently having trouble with setting up a samba share, can anyone assist?
[23:00] <mariobro> it says there is 1 broken package, how do i fix this?
[23:00] <Pici> flavio_: right click on a panel> delete this panel
[23:00] <atlef> commonglass: linuxmint.com
[23:00] <bubu1uk> commonglass: it's linux distro, search on google, there is indeed
[23:00] <Pici> !mint
[23:00] <ubotu> The following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes, please consult their websites for more information: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (support in #linuxmint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), Ubuntu Ultimate
[23:01] <ries_> i am helping u to be more helpful with absolute beginners - please always start at the very beginning when you explain something and imagine that others may face a flight of stairs where you only see one step
[23:01] <pzn> joel: done! thanks! I tought gnome-volume-manager was mounting it... but that was not. inserted noauto in the options and it is done!
[23:01] <bobgill> how can I see my dvd drive info in terminal? I can't find it in /proc
[23:01] <flavio_> Pici, I can't cause its the last panel left on screen
[23:01] <flavio_> I want to remove all panels from screen
[23:01] <joel> ries: you need to get comfortable with google, you can't expect people explain every single minor step throughout the process
[23:02] <commonglass> bubu1uk: Thanks!  I'll take a look at it!  In case things don't work out, is there another live cd/dvd that you'd recommend for my purpose as well?
[23:02] <Pici> flavio_: I guess you might be able to do it manually from gconf-editor then.
[23:02] <lordleemo1> ubuntu derives from debian and mint also ! someone needs to reprogramme the bot
[23:02] <squeak> Could someone help me get my Creative Webcam Nx working in Ubuntu Gutsy?
[23:02] <sdca> Hi - need some help with openswan on ubuntu.  Anyone available to help?
[23:03] <joel> squeak: good luck with that, Creative goes out of their way to stop open source
[23:03] <MasterMel> iGama: i just opened the xorg.conf but the file is totaly empty!! whats the best thing to do now?
[23:03] <ompaul> lordleemo1, pm me what you think the bot should say
[23:03] <brainiac8008> flavio_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=576916
[23:03] <joel> I am having issues with their new express sound card, emailed them and they basically said "too bad"
[23:03] <cYmen> has anybody set up bookmarks synchronizer with a dav folder yet? i can't get it to work :/
[23:03] <bubu1uk> commonglass: i don't think there's many distros with codecs built in live CD/DVD.
[23:03] <brainiac8008> flavio_: look at the second entry
[23:04] <Slart> cYmen: I did it a while back.. you mean the firefox plugin, right?
[23:04] <cYmen> Slart: yeah
[23:04] <lUnchbOxXx> Anyone help with fixing my samba share?
[23:04] <cYmen> i always get 404s but i tried the repository and it seems to work fine
[23:04] <bobgill> how can I see my dvd drive info in terminal? I can't find it in /proc
[23:04] <Slart> cYmen: hmm.. do you use apache for the server part?
[23:05] <joel> I'm having issues with my samba also so no help here...sorry :(
[23:05] <Luigix> hi
[23:05] <MasterMel> just tried to edit my xorg-conf but the file was totaly empty! whats the best way to have this fixed?
[23:05] <commonglass> bubu1uk: Thanks!  You are a scholar and a gentleman!
[23:06] <Luigix> how i can set the download resume in xchat for ubuntu?
[23:06] <ries_> google has zillion answers - skype may have a helpline, and otherwise a chat site of their own that *can* help - / *off to absolute beginners' land*/
[23:06] <larson999> MasterMel, did you spell it xorg-conf?
[23:06] <Slart> MasterMel: the best way is to use the correct filename =) xorg.conf
[23:06] <danbhfive> MasterMel: what was the command you used?
[23:06] <mariobro_> how can i fix broken packages?
[23:06] <Luigix> who can help me?
[23:06] <cYmen> Slart: yes i use apache
[23:06] <joel> ries: again, we do google all the time and find our answers, it's simply part of the process and you'll get used to it and learn how to navigate it fine
[23:06] <Xubuntu> hello
[23:06] <joel> google type in "skype Ubunt how to" or something like that
[23:07] <ethan961> !skype
[23:07] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[23:07] <Slart> cYmen: ok.. let's start by checking the server part.. you setup a folder with webdav, right?
[23:07] <mariobro_> !envy
[23:07] <ubotu> envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[23:07] <Xubuntu> I'm having some problems with installing ubuntu
[23:07] <Xubuntu> its prompts this error
[23:07] <brainiac8008> envy worked flawlessly for me
[23:08] <Xubuntu> The installer encountered an error copying files to the hard disk:
[23:08] <Xubuntu>  
[23:08] <Xubuntu>  [Errno 5] Input/output error
[23:08] <ompaul> !worksforme | brainiac8008
[23:08] <ubotu> brainiac8008: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[23:08] <Xubuntu> This particular error is often due to a faulty CD/DVD disk or drive, or a faulty hard disk. It may help to clean the CD/DVD, to burn the CD/DVD at a lower speed, to clean the CD/DVD drive lens (cleaning kits are often available from electronics suppliers), to check whether the hard disk is old and in need of replacement, or to move the system to a cooler environment.
[23:08] <SerenyssymA> jjjjjjj
[23:08] <ompaul> SerenyssymA, ?
[23:09] <Xubuntu> I dont think that the live cd causes this problem
[23:09] <brainiac8008> ubotu: i know im just putting my two cents in
[23:09] <sdca> anyone seen this error in auth.log?  "Main Mode message received on 192.168.23.23:500 but no connection has been authorized"
[23:09] <SerenyssymA> alguém aqui sabe me dizer como diabos instalo um programa similar ao msn no linux????
[23:09] <cYmen> Slart: yes
[23:09] <Xubuntu> hello?
[23:09] <ompaul> brainiac8008, ehh ubotu is a bot - I prompted it ;-)
[23:09] <lUnchbOxXx> Anyone help with fixing my samba share?
[23:09] <poeloq> hey
[23:09] <ompaul> !es | Symmetria
[23:09] <ubotu> Symmetria: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[23:09] <poeloq> anybody know if Brasero can burn DAO?
[23:09] <flavio_> brainiac8008, I removed the panels, now I want to add 1 panel, how can I do this?
[23:10] <Xubuntu> anybody?
[23:10] <Slart> cYmen: in the file /etc/apache/sites-enabled/000-default I have a couple of lines describing the webdav folder
[23:10] <atlef> !patience | Xubuntu:
[23:10] <ubotu> Xubuntu:: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[23:10] <IndyGunFreak> flavio_: you removed all of them?
[23:10] <cYmen> Slart: the repository works i just checked in a dummy file...
[23:10] <flavio_> IndyGunFreak, yes
[23:10] <Xubuntu> oh
[23:10] <Xubuntu> alright
[23:10] <IndyGunFreak> what provoked you to do that?
[23:10] <Slart> cYmen: ok. lets skip to the client part
[23:10] <brainiac8008> flavio_: i thought you had 1 panel in the first place and you wanted to get rid of it
[23:11] <flavio_> I use avant now, thats why
[23:11] <JessMeister> I am trying to install xubuntu on a compaq presario 1675. It freezes at Starting common unix printing cupsd. The Bios are as updated as they can get and still fall behind the cutoff date of 2000 (1999)
[23:11] <atlef> Xubuntu: people will answer if they know
[23:11] <flavio_> brainiac8008, I need to add a panel (sometimes) to get some tools
[23:11] <Flamekebab> It would seem one of my partitions has suddenly vanished. It was a JFS system and is now showing up as an empty ext2 partition. Any ideas?
[23:11] <Slart> cYmen: I use "Bookmark Sync and Sort" 1.0.7
[23:11] <Xubuntu> ok atlef
[23:11] <cYmen> Slart: i use bookmarks synchronizer which shipped with ubuntu
[23:11] <IndyGunFreak> flavio_: your'e gonna have fun w/ that one, cuz i have no idea.
[23:12] <atlef> Xubuntu: just hang around, and maybe repeat the question in a while
[23:12] <IndyGunFreak> never saw someone do something that braindead before
[23:12] <Slart> cYmen: look in you addons dialog.. the plugin should be there
[23:12] <flavio_> hmmm
[23:12] <brainiac8008> flavio_: u could run gnome-panel
[23:12] <cYmen> Slart: yes it s there
[23:12] <flavio_> brainiac8008, you are genius
[23:12] <flavio_> Thank you
[23:12] <IndyGunFreak> yeah, thats it.
[23:12] <cYmen> Slart: do you want me to get the one you mentioned instead?
[23:12] <ries_> sorry joel do you mean that google knows what my computer has installed or not? I hope to run a search for possible sound programmes but if there are hundreds then that will take lots of time - if there are a few then I could check relatively easily - remember Skype itself has been installed fine, and quite possibly with your help - thanx
[23:12] <Xubuntu> ok
[23:12] <brainiac8008> flavio: no prob
[23:12] <Slart> cYmen: is it the same plugin? what is it called?
[23:13] <cYmen> Slart: bookmarks synchronizer
[23:13] <bubu1uk> xubuntu: it seems your install cd is faulty. try to burn new one.
[23:13] <Sponty> where is KDE 4 installed?
[23:13] <bubu1uk> xubuntu: or is your DVD/CD drive working ok?
[23:13] <joel> ries: possible sound programs for what? I'm confused on what you need, is your sound working or not? if it isn't you need to install drivers which is a bit hard and at your level might be tedious (for you and those helping you)
[23:14] <larsx2> * There should be fewer than ~15 load cycles per hour, except during heavy usage while on battery.
[23:14] <Slart> cYmen: ok.. I found it.. let me have a look at it
[23:14] <larsx2> \FOUND IT
[23:14] <joel> I'm unable to see my home network anymore (could with Gutsy) anyone know enough about samba to help me along the way?
[23:14] <brainiac8008> flavio_: i didn't think i'd hear someone call me a genius so soon. haven't been using ubuntu 4 too long. i'm 14 actually, not to rub it in tho ;-)
[23:14] <JessMeister> I am trying to install xubuntu on a compaq presario 1675. It freezes at Starting common unix printing cupsd. The Bios are as updated as they can get and still fall behind the cutoff date of 2000 (1999)
[23:14] <joel> lol the guy who hacked itunes was 14 ;)
[23:14] <flavio_> :)
[23:14] <ries_> i believe I have what you call drivers but then again.. if nobody tells me how to check if I do, I can't be sure
[23:15] <Flamekebab> Any suggestions what the problem is if a partition is suddenly not showing up as it should on boot up? Corrupt partition table?
[23:15] <Flamekebab> Trying to diagnose the problem
[23:15] <joel> I asked if you can hear music or websites? if you get stuff out of your speakers from websites than your drivers are fine
[23:15] <Sponty> anybody? lol
[23:15] <johnsky> I'm getting the distro-upgrade... but one thing that perturbs me is it has to ?remove package open arena?
[23:16] <brainiac8008> sponty: r u running ubuntu or kubuntu
[23:16] <Xubuntu> having problems with installing ubuntu input/output error
[23:16] <johnsky> Why would it have to remove open arena to perform the distribution upgrade?
[23:16] <Slart> cYmen: hmm.. not a lot of info on that plugin.. so I wouldn't really know where to start
[23:16] <Xubuntu> ??
[23:16] <ries_> as said before, i think, sometimes I do and sometimes I don't - so I figure that I must have some - and no external speakers here
[23:17] <Slart> cYmen: apart from the pretty obvious stuff such as "is the hostname correct", "is the username correct", "can the client resolve the hostname" etc
[23:17] <negge> johnsky sometimes some installed packages aren't supported/needed after a distro upgrade
[23:17] <Xubuntu> The installer encountered an error copying files to the hard disk:
[23:17] <Sponty> brainiac8008, ubuntu
[23:17] <negge> Xubuntu sounds like you have a faulty CD
[23:17] <Xubuntu> [Errno 5] Input/output error
[23:17] <brainiac8008> Sponty, check in the synaptic package manager for kde
[23:17] <brainiac8008> sponty, it should be there
[23:18] <johnsky> Does anyone know if there is a version of open arena that will be compatible with the new distro then?
[23:18] <Xubuntu> if so why wud it install some wen i try on other system
[23:18] <Sponty> synaptic will tell me the location in my file system where KDE 4 is installed to?
[23:18] <bubu1uk> Xubuntu: read my post above. i addressed it to xubuntu (lowercase X)
[23:18] <joel> ries: with a remote connect I might be able to help, I probably won't be able to through text, you just aren't at a level to understand what needs to be done
[23:18] <Symmetria> ummm ompaul?
[23:18] <johnsky> Or is it just that synaptic has a different version on file, and I should get that one
[23:18] <atlef> Xubuntu: have you googled the error? http://tinyurl.com/524sh8
[23:18] <joel> remote connect is for me to control your computer so I can install the stuff
[23:18] <Symmetria> you made the bot say something to me in spanish earlier I saw on scroll back, I have absolutely no idea what it said however
[23:18] <Slart> cYmen: this is the one I'm using.. it works for me.. perhaps you can use it to check the server setup.. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2367
[23:18] <Symmetria> since I dont speak that language
[23:18] <ompaul> Symmetria, missed the person in question - tab tastic
[23:18] <JessMeister> I am trying to install xubuntu on a compaq presario 1675. It freezes at Starting common unix printing cupsd. The Bios are as updated as they can get and still fall behind the cutoff date of 2000 (1999)
[23:18] <Symmetria> aahh ok :)
[23:19] <Cain_> mount: No medium found
[23:19] <Cain_> what does that mean?
[23:19] <brainiac8008> sponty, no. u do not have kde at the moment.  synaptic allows you to download different packages/programs, like kde
[23:19] <Sponty> brainiac8008, i installed KDE 4 a month ago
[23:19] <bubu1uk> Cain_: what you tried to do?
[23:19] <Sponty> using apt get
[23:20] <Sponty> i'm running kde 4 right this second
[23:20] <Sponty> i need to know where kde base is installed in
[23:20] <Sponty> it's not in /opt, it's not in /sbin
[23:20] <johnsky> Anyways, so whats new in the new distro upgrade? Anything interesting? Or just the usual reliability patches
[23:20] <Cain_> bubu1uk: mount my dvd drive
[23:20] <ries_> and how would that work
[23:21] <bubu1uk> Cain_: check 'man mount' how to mount your drive.
[23:21] <erat123> i have a toshiba dv2617 laptop.  i got rid of vista and installed ubuntu.  it can find my wireless network sometimes, and other times, it cant at all.  does anyone else have this same laptop, or know of a way to debug this problem?
[23:21] <brainiac8008> sponty, hmmm
[23:21] <joel> ries: how are you connected to the internet through a modem or a router?
[23:21] <negge> johnsky are you upgrading to hardy heron?
[23:21] <Cain_> i was doin it exactly how i did it before
[23:21] <joel> cable internet or dsl, or dial up?
[23:21] <Flamekebab> Any suggestions what the problem is if a partition is suddenly not showing up as it should on boot up? Corrupt partition table? It's supposed to be a JFS partition (semi-full) and now it appears as an empty Ext2 partition
[23:21] <unop> Sponty, you can use dpkg to list files part of the KDE4 package, is that is what you want?
[23:21] <ries_> a modem i suppose as I dont know what a router is but no need to explain
[23:21] <cYmen> Slart: i ll try thanks
[23:22] <joel> is it high speed internet (cable or dsl) or is it dial up?
[23:22] <ries_> cable high speed though not the very fastest
[23:22] <joel> okay and you are using Ubuntu right?
[23:22] <ries_> yep
[23:22] <joel> I'm sending you a private message
[23:22] <Sponty> unop, how do i use dpkg to list files part of KDE4 packages?
[23:22] <Frogger6s6> Hey Indy, what's up?
[23:23] <ries_> I won't ask how you know my email address :-)
[23:23] <Frogger6s6> DOS disk didn't work, either that or I blew the syntax.
[23:23] <unop> Sponty, dpkg -L packagename
[23:23] <joel> it's not through email, it is within irc
[23:23] <johnsky> I'm not entirely sure, I just applied the updates it was requesting I apply, and it informed me it was fetching a new distro upgrade.
[23:23] <johnsky> So, it would be which ever is current release.
[23:23] <joel> doesn't look like it's going to work, sorry
[23:23] <Sponty> unop, ty ty, that's exactly what I needed
[23:24] <Sponty> =D
[23:24] <unop> Sponty, for all kde packages - for i in $(dpkg -l | grep -i kde4 | cut -c 3-30); do dpkg -L $i; done
[23:24] <redwhitewaldo> what's the terminal command to import my PTP-enabled digital-camera to my computer?
[23:24] <johnsky> It's only been a few weeks since my last update.
[23:24] <Sponty> yeah, i just did $ dpkg -L kdebase[auto complete]
[23:24] <ries_> i saw something called Nickserv
[23:25] <JessMeister> I am trying to install xubuntu on a compaq presario 1675. It freezes at Starting common unix printing cupsd. The Bios are as updated as they can get and still fall behind the cutoff date of 2000 (1999) anyone know a fix? I've tried boot options acpi=force acpi=off and acpi=oldboot none of them made a difference
[23:25] <johnsky> I'm currently running gutsy gibbon, 7.10, is there a newer distro it would be trying to grab for me?
[23:25] <unop> Sponty, well, that only lists files of that one package tho, which is what i was getting at.
[23:25] <unop> !hardy | johnsky
[23:25] <ubotu> johnsky: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[23:25] <joel> johnsky: no not until the end of the month when Hardy is released
[23:26] <brainiac8008> cya
[23:26] <Moe|Joe> hmm
[23:26] <Sponty> kde[autocomplete] shows all the packages that begin with kde
[23:26] <Moe|Joe> 2 weeks to wait
[23:26] <Sponty> that's all i needed
[23:26] <Moe|Joe> now is it worth installing 7.10 and then doing upgrade to 8.04
[23:26] <johnsky> hmm, which distro would it be trying to upgrade to? I'm assuming synaptic wouldn't be trying to fetch that if its still beta
[23:26] <Moe|Joe> or install the 8.04 beta and install final wen it gets released?
[23:27] <Sponty> dpkg -l | grep -i kde4 | cut -c 3-30 is pretty sophisticated, more than i need
[23:27] <Sponty> thanks tho unop =D\
[23:27] <unop> Sponty, yw
[23:27] <mikedoty> I can't seem to get unfold cube to work in compiz.  I can rotate it, but when I ctrl+alt+down as it says the shortcut is, nothing happens
[23:27] <mikedoty> Any ideas?
[23:27] <negge> johnsky i don't think it will ask you to upgrade before the final release is out
[23:28] <miguel_c> Hi! I've backed up Thunderbird Profiles directory at Windows system and now I need to import it to Thunderbird under Xubuntu. Can anyone help me with this?
[23:28] <Totem> joel: Thank you so much. Everything installed perfectly
[23:28] <Iz> how will i install java in my ubuntu so i can run frostwire etc?
[23:28] <Slart> Moe|Joe: depends... if it was me.. I'd probably install the beta... but you might not be me =)
[23:28] <erUSUL> !java | Iz
[23:28] <ubotu> Iz: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[23:28] <Moe|Joe> well yeh
[23:28] <joel> no problem totem
[23:28] <Moe|Joe> i wana install the beta
[23:28] <erUSUL> !frostwire | Iz ç
[23:28] <ubotu> Iz ç: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[23:28] <Moe|Joe> but i dont wana go thru the hassle backing up shit and formatting
[23:28] <N3WFI3> does ubuntu come with the newest nvidia drivers?
[23:28] <miguel_c> yep
[23:29] <miguel_c> Hi! I've backed up Thunderbird Profiles directory at Windows system and now I need to import it to Thunderbird under Xubuntu. Can anyone help me with this?
[23:29] <N3WFI3> nice cool
[23:29] <Slart> Moe|Joe: why not install the beta and see if it works for you.. if it doesn't you can install 7.10 and wait until they fix the stuff you need.. if it works for you.. then yay! =)
[23:29] <atlef> miguel_c: make a folder, copy your backup, press alt-f2 write thunderbird -profilemanager and point to the folder
[23:29] <N3WFI3> so my games should run top performance i guess :)
[23:29] <hp> i have a folder, it's marked "read only", when i move it to the trash bin, i can't remove it completely. now there's like 200 mb sitting in the trashbin and it's unmovable. do you guys have any ideas how to delete it completely?
[23:29] <miguel_c> atlef: god bless you :;
[23:29] <miguel_c> :p
[23:29] <Slart> Moe|Joe: ah.. but you should create some kind of backup anyways..
[23:29] <miguel_c> going to try, brb
[23:29] <Totem> joel: I have another question though. Do you think you could help? I have a Belkin Wireless G Desktop Card and that is my only way to connect to the internet. When I bought it, it came with a cd and software to let Windows connect to the internet with it. Is there a way  that I can use this with Ubuntu?
[23:29] <atlef> miguel_c: which one
[23:29] <N3WFI3> dual core is automatically installed right
[23:30] <Azodon> N3WFI3 : what games?
[23:30] <atlef> miguel_c: or is it just an expression
[23:30] <Slart> hp: navigate to the trash folder (usually called .Trash) and remove it by using sudo rm
[23:30] <N3WFI3> im gunna find some games for linux to try, atm im downloading urban terror
[23:30] <Slart> N3WFI3: yes
[23:30] <Moe|Joe> Slart: i dont do backups much to be honest...i use ubuntu on laptop
[23:30] <Moe|Joe> wel
[23:30] <Moe|Joe> goign to
[23:30] <miguel_c> atlef: just an expression, i dont use it much :p
[23:30] <yass3r> #linuxac
[23:30] <hp> slart, where is it usually be?
[23:30] <joel> totem: no there's not any way to use that cd
[23:30] <atlef> miguel_c: because religion really p''''s me of
[23:30] <joel> you need to find another way to connect, I'm sure it's possible
[23:30] <hp> slart, is it in the home folder?
[23:31] <miguel_c> atlef: i've a good movie to show you then
[23:31] <Slart> hp: on the same drive the files were.. or in your home folder.. there are many .Trash folders
[23:31] <joel> do you have dsl or cable?
[23:31] <Totem> I believe it's cable
[23:31] <atlef> miguel_c: and that is?
[23:31] <eisenhower_> can someone tell me how to install the latest backports?
[23:31] <Totem> It is through a wireless router
[23:31] <miguel_c> wait, checking mails
[23:31] <joel> yeah there shouldn't really be a problem, ndiswrapper might work for you
[23:31] <Slart> hp: and since it's named .Trash it will be hidden in nautilus unless you set it to show you hidden files
[23:31] <Totem> ok, thanks
[23:31] <joel> what card is it again?
[23:32] <Totem> Belkin Wireless G Desktop Card
[23:32] <Totem> PCI
[23:32] <hp> slart, it's not in the home folder
[23:32] <hp> i checked
[23:32] <joel> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=256387
[23:32] <Nyad>  is there an uubuntu repository with packages compiled for bleeding-edge computers?
[23:33] <Slart> hp: where was this big file you're trying to get rid of?
[23:33] <atlef> Nyad: install hardy heron and live on the edge
[23:33] <JessMeister> I am trying to install xubuntu on a compaq presario 1675. It freezes at Starting common unix printing cupsd. The Bios are as updated as they can get and still fall behind the cutoff date of 2000 (1999) anyone know a fix? I've tried boot options acpi=force acpi=off and acpi=oldboot none of them made a difference
[23:33] <magnetron> Nyad: the standard ubuntu repository IS made for bleeding edge computers
[23:33] <hp> slart: it was on the Desktop. then i moved it to the trash bin.
[23:33] <N3WFI3> what is new in hardy?
[23:34] <magnetron> !hardy > N3WFI3
[23:34] <Slart> hp: you could open the trash-bin and look at the file.. perhaps right-click and look at the properties.. that might tell you where it's located
[23:34] <eisenhower_> when you install something in the synaptic packagemanager does it automatically run? like ex. backports*
[23:34] <sk8ball_> is bogofilter or spamassassin better?
[23:34] <squeak> Question, does anyone know of a software that will let me use my linux desktop as a webcam?
[23:34] <googlah> hey guys, just deleted kdm. now gdm wont start at all, meaning no login screen. how do i solve this? :)
[23:34] <magnetron> !best > sk8ball_
[23:34] <Totem> joel: I have seen a lot about the make command, but whenever I try to do something with it, I get a message saying that "make" is not a recognized command. What is that about?
[23:34] <redwhitewaldo> squeak: what do you mean?
[23:34] <hp> slart: it says location : trash:///
[23:34] <joel> you do ./configure first
[23:34] <joel> then make
[23:34] <joel> then sudo make install
[23:35] <squeak> redwhitewaldo, when I was in xp, i used a program webcammax that let me use my desktop whatever I saw as a webcam, is there something similar to that in linux?
[23:35] <mariobro_> I get this message when I try to open Envy, "You have 1 broken package on your system!"  how do i fix it?
[23:35] <sk8ball_> magnetron, well .... one is going to filter more spam than the other ....
[23:35] <tyuio> hi
[23:35] <googlah> Totem: have you installed make? try apt-get install make
[23:35] <IndyGunFreak> googlah: i dont think you have to install make
[23:35] <joel> it's sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[23:35] <bobbob1016> How would I create a launcher to SSH into a computer and run a command, with one press?  "ssh user@ip && command"?
[23:35] <kindofabuzz> apt-get install build-essentials
[23:35] <tyuio> what is swap?
[23:35] <magnetron> sk8ball_: they will probably catch different letters, and all of them won't be spam
[23:36] <mariobro_> I get this message when I try to open Envy, "You have 1 broken package on your system!"  how do i fix it?
[23:36] <IndyGunFreak> googlah: make is a command, not something you install, he probably needs build-essential
[23:36] <unop> joel, try and keep your reponses in one line and address the person you are speaking to .. it makes it easier for people using /LASTLOG
[23:36] <bobbob1016> I'd want it to run the command on the machine I ssh-ed into
[23:36] <miguel_c> atlef: you there?
[23:36] <googlah> IndyGunFreak: maybe not. im not sure. maybe was thinking about automake :D
[23:36] <sk8ball_> magne, of course .... but one is likely to have a higher catch rate and accuracy than the other
[23:36] <Nyad> !hardy > Nyad
[23:36] <Slart> hp: are you sure? when I created a file on my desktop and moved it to the trashbin, right clicked on it, chose properties etc it says it's in /home/markus/.Trash
[23:36] <atlef> miguel_c: yes
[23:36] <tyuio> what is swap?
[23:36] <sk8ball_> i am sure ppl have compared them and come to conclusions
[23:36] <miguel_c> atlef: check this if you like : v
[23:36] <IndyGunFreak> googlah: i don't think you have to install that either, but i could be wrong.
[23:36] <miguel_c> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-594683847743189197&q=zeitgeist&total=4696&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2
[23:36] <miguel_c> interesting
[23:36] <hp> slart:, i'm pretty sure
[23:36] <sk8ball_> tyuio, a partition on your hdd that the os uses to emulate system ram
[23:36] <miguel_c> 2 hours
[23:36] <tuncay> how i can connect remote desktop with ssh
[23:37] <magnetron> sk8ball_: depends on who usually sends you spam :D really, it's a matter of preference
[23:37] <mariobro_> how do i fix broken packages using synaptic?
[23:37] <atlef> miguel_c: and that is what?
[23:37] <miguel_c> it's a movie about truth
[23:37] <tyuio> is it like readyboost on vista ?
[23:37] <miguel_c> about religion, wtc and government manipulation
[23:37] <magnetron> !spam | miguel_c
[23:38] <ubotu> miguel_c: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See (in a private message with the bot, /msg ubotu <keyword>): !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam, !PM, !English - And most importantly, use common sense...
[23:38] <googlah> IndyGunFreak: yeah, maybe. gdm wont start for me. its crashing. any clues btw? :)
[23:38] <tyuio> is there readyboost on linux ?
[23:38] <IndyGunFreak> googlah: not a clue...
[23:38] <joel> what's readyboost?
[23:38] <magnetron> tyuio: we don't need readyboost, we use swap instead :D
[23:38] <tyuio> readyboost tecnology
[23:38] <joel> that stupid windows thing
[23:38] <atlef> miguel_c: who's truth?
[23:38] <georgy_28> mariobro_, : try sudo apt-get install -f in a terminal
[23:38] <Slart> hp: here's a screenshot of my properties dialog http://link.imgshare.us/46peS3
[23:39] <tyuio> what is the difference between readyboost and swap
[23:39] <googlah> IndyGunFreak: hmm, okay.
[23:39] <tyuio> ??
[23:39] <johnsky> Is it me, or should all fullscreen games automatically be started with a "nice gamename -15" command?
[23:39] <miguel_c> atlef: if you want, check the movie otherwise forget it :) every truth have it's point of view.
[23:39] <johnsky> I think they should.
[23:39] <cYmen> Slart: i get 404s with your version, too
[23:39] <miguel_c> thanks for the thunderbird tip, testing it
[23:39] <N3WFI3> where's the general overview of features for the next release
[23:39] <hp> slart, i can't see that image
[23:39] <cYmen> Slart: can you tell me your settings so i can compare?
[23:39] <atlef> miguel_c: hope you get it working
[23:39] <brian_> I have 7.10, and when I go to open one of my files(KDXServer.lexe) from terminal, after I've made it executable, it says "error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory". Whats wrong? :(
[23:39] <Slart> hp: hmm.. I just tried it myself.. I can't see the image either.. hang on
[23:40] <atlef> miguel_c: do you have any extensions installed?
[23:40] <alan_m> N3WFI3, http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/hardy/beta
[23:40] <Totem> can I use Gutsy Gubbon ndiswrapper packages on Hardy?
[23:40] <alan_m> I DO NOT suggest downloading it right now, wait the few weeks for it to become main stream.
[23:40] <Totem> Hardy?
[23:40] <N3WFI3> thanks i had a hard time finding the right section on the site lol
[23:41] <alan_m> N3WFI3, your welcome.
[23:41] <Slart> hp: try this one http://i27.tinypic.com/34sowox.png
[23:41] <johnsky> Yeah, just wait until it's labelled stable, then it will automatically be available through your update manager
[23:41] <georgy_28> ! hardy > Totem
[23:41] <N3WFI3> so this version can be upgraded to hardy very easy?
[23:41] <N3WFI3> no full download needed?
[23:41] <Totem> haha, I just spend 3 hours installing it! There is NO way I'm taking it off
[23:41] <Slart> cYmen: the settings in the client?
[23:41] <alan_m> N3WFI3, right.
[23:41] <cYmen> Slart: yeah
[23:41] <N3WFI3> nice!
[23:42] <johnsky> When it's ready, your update manager will let you know you can upgrade to it... from there it should be automatic.
[23:42] <alan_m> N3WFI3, the full download your talking about, yes it will download everything, but it will replace what it needs to and so on.
[23:42] <joel> 3 hours? I flash installed it in 5 minutes 20 seconds ;)
[23:42] <hp> slart: i can delete somethign unimportant and check on it
[23:43] <N3WFI3> will pretty much everyone jump on hardy when its stable
[23:43] <N3WFI3> or is there a good reason to stay on gutsy
[23:43] <johnsky> By default, your update manager pops up in the top right corner letting you know there are updates to be applied... that same update manager will also automatically upgrade ubuntu to the newest versions for you.
[23:43] <alan_m> N3WFI3, pretty much everyone will probably want to go to hardy as it includes some major fixes over gutsy :)
[23:43] <atlef> N3WFI3: not all, but it is a LTS, so alot of people will
[23:43] <N3WFI3> sounds good
[23:43] <johnsky> Where was that list of upgrades for hardy?
[23:44] <hp> slart, it doesn't create any .trash in the home folder. the location of the recently deleted file is trash:///
[23:44] <Slart> cYmen: ok, here's a screenshot of my first settings-tab http://i27.tinypic.com/29bgd9i.png
[23:44] <magnetron> !hardy | alan_m atlef johnsky  N3WFI3
[23:44] <ubotu> alan_m atlef johnsky  N3WFI3: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[23:44] <atlef> magnetron: hey he asked
[23:44] <Slart> hp: it's .Trash , not .trash if that makes a difference
[23:44] <N3WFI3> http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/hardy/beta
[23:44] <hp> slart: nope
[23:45] <emma> Was there a video driver update recently?
[23:45] <hp> slart: there is no .Trash or .trash
[23:45] <magnetron> atlef, N3WFI3: hardy discussion in #ubuntu+1 ONLY tanks
[23:45] <larson999> yeah, most everyone should go to hardy if you ask me. heck, i moved already and it's pretty good.
[23:45] <Slart> hp: what does this line produce in the terminal "ls ~/.Tr*"
[23:45] <atlef> magnetron: i know, but should we not atleast answer
[23:45] <IndyGunFreak> larson9999: lol, don't know about that.. i had issues w/ hardy
[23:46] <alan_m> enough about hardy folks, were making the ops cranky.....
[23:46] <hp> slart: no such file or directory
[23:46] <magnetron> atlef: no, not here
[23:46] <emma> Yes, in some ways, why go to Hardy if Gutsy is working very well for you? Why not wait until everything is sorted out?
[23:47] <N3WFI3> hehe
[23:47] <alan_m> emma, magnetron said stop, we should at least listen as he is probably an op and will probably use his powers to kick us out if we dont abide by his orders right?
[23:47] <Slart> hp: ok.. I believe you.. what if you do a search for .Trash.. "find / | grep -i trash"
[23:47] <N3WFI3> i thought magnetron was a bot lol
[23:48] <hp> slart: found it
[23:48] <hp> slart: it under .local/share
[23:48] <magnetron> alan_m, emma: i'm not an op but we don't want to confuse new users with beta discussion in the support channel, thank you
[23:48] <emma> magnetron is not an op. But that is not really relevant to whether we shuld e talking off topic.
[23:48] <Slart> hp: .local ?? what kind of folder is that..
[23:48] <unop> hp, sounds like you are using hardy :) hardy support in #ubuntu+1 please
[23:48] <majikins> hi-I'd like to find out how to launch vimtutor in terminal from launcher
[23:49] <hp> unop: yeah
[23:49] <alan_m> magnetron, im actually on your side in this debate, :)
[23:49] <unop> majikins, maybe using this command.. x-terminal-emulator -e "vimtutor"
[23:49] <majikins> will try that now
[23:49] <Jester009> I am having issues installing/starting up xubuntu on a compaq presario 1675 that has xp installed on it. The bios miss the cutoff date (1999) and I have tried booting it with options acpi=force acpi=off acpi=old boot but nothing seems to keep it from freezing at "Starting common Unix Printing Cupsd". Anyone know any fixes. I do no have the computer hooked up to a printer
[23:50] <Slart> hp: of to #ubuntu+1 with you.. and no dessert for you for a week ;)
[23:50] <hp> slart: hahahahaha, thanks for your help
[23:50] <brian_> I have 7.10, and when I go to open one of my files(KDXServer.lexe) from terminal, after I've made it executable, it says "error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory". Whats wrong? :(
[23:50] <Slart> hp: you're welcome
[23:51] <magnetron> brian_: .exe? is that a Windows app?
[23:51] <majikins> unop : that did not work
[23:51] <unop> majikins, well, does that line work from a terminal?
[23:51] <majikins> I don't want to do that from command line
[23:51] <alan_m> magnetron, .lexe, supposedly a linux executable.
[23:51] <majikins> vimtutor just starts from terminal
[23:51] <brian_> magnetron: .lexe. And no, the site says its for linux, and it works on my laptop(Used the same CD to install both computers, and I THINK I have all the same updates for both
[23:52] <majikins> ok lemme try that
[23:52] <unop> majikins, you've gotta try that command out from a terminal first to see if it works (it works here)
[23:52] <majikins> I start my is xfterm4
[23:53] <unop> brian_, try installing the build-essential package
[23:53] <majikins> using xubuntu
[23:53] <brian_> unop: Will do. In a minute, just spilled all over >.<
[23:53] <unop> majikins, is vimtutor opened in xfterm ?
[23:54] <majikins> yes
[23:54] <kunzy> I have a question, I have the logitech G15 keyboard.  I dont have any packages for it installed.  what would i need to do to gain the use of the media keys in Amarok?
[23:54] <unop> majikins, hmm, not sure why it won't work from a launcher
[23:54] <majikins> I tried "xfterm4 vimtutor" from laucher
[23:54] <majikins> but it just opens the terminal
[23:55] <unop> majikins, maybe. xfterm4 -e 'vimtutuor'
[23:55] <miguel_c> kunzy: go to control center -> acessibility -> keyboard shortcuts -> applications
[23:55] <majikins> awesome!
[23:55] <unop> majikins, you need to quote vimtutor and use -e
[23:55] <majikins> thanks
[23:55] <unop> cool
[23:55] <majikins> been spending time trying to get it right
[23:55] <Jester009> I am having issues installing/starting up xubuntu on a compaq presario 1675 that has xp installed on it. The bios miss the cutoff date (1999) and I have tried booting it with options acpi=force acpi=off acpi=old boot but nothing seems to keep it from freezing at "Starting common Unix Printing Cupsd". Anyone know any fixes. I do no have the computer hooked up to a printer
[23:56] <majikins> thank you unop
[23:56] <kunzy> miguel_c:  where do i find the control center?   Sorry, im still a newb
[23:56] <unop> yw
[23:56] <dethstar> what's a good app for dvd ripping and shrinking?
[23:56] <majikins> just another thing - how do I specify a window to start up maximised?
[23:57] <miguel_c> kunzy: ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu?
[23:57] <majikins> the terminal keeps on starting up at the corner of the screen
[23:57] <unop> majikins, you'll need to look in the xfterm manpage
[23:57] <kunzy> dethstar: I have heard good things about DVD shrink
[23:57] <majikins> ok
[23:57] <Randocal> what command would I type in a terminal window to see what filesystem my various partitions are formatted with?
[23:57] <kunzy> miguel_c: Ubuntu GG    I think 7.10?
[23:57] <miguel_c> kubuntu right?
[23:57] <joel> sudo fidisk 0l
[23:57] <joel> sudo fdisk -l
[23:57] <magnetron> dethstar: i like thoggen. if you search for "dvd" in applications > add/remove, you'll find a list of them
[23:58] <miguel_c> alt+f2 -> kcontrol
[23:58] <georgy_28> dethstar, : try k9copy
[23:58] <unop> Randocal, mount would be better
[23:58] <dethstar> kunzy, don't you need wine for that?
[23:58] <Alex03> hi
[23:58] <unop> joel, fdisk -l can be misleading
[23:58] <kunzy> dethstar:   (smacks my head)  sorry, my head is still stuck in windows
[23:58] <Randocal> fdisk -l doesn't give me details like ext2 or xfs, it just tells me 83/linux
[23:58] <dethstar> georgy_28, it's keeps crashing on me
[23:59] <Randocal> I have a partition that i think is xfs, and i'd like to verify that this is the case
[23:59] <kunzy> miguel_c:  Sorry, says the file doesnt exist
[23:59] <joel> gparted tells you
[23:59] <unop> Randocal, the best way would be to test the devices.  file -s /dev/sdaX
[23:59] <dethstar> magnetron, I might take a look at thoggen
[23:59] <Randocal> unop - thanks. That's perfect.