[00:02] i already have the thing installed but idk were it put the shortcut to run it... [00:03] nevermind found it [00:43] hi problem, i just install xubuntu, but the problem is if i leave my computer unattended, like playing music after 10 20 min it stop responding, even i move the mouse, i have to restart to make things work again, let me know what should i do, to fix this [00:45] also i here a beep sound [00:45] continues beep sound [04:03] what's the name of the app that configs the mouse settings? can't get my cursor to consistently show up... [04:05] found it! "xfce-setting-show mouse" [07:04] i'm on xubuntu 8.04 beta. is it a bug that screensaver does not go on "lock" mode? [07:52] Hello, I am having trouble with gnome-ppp. Can someone help? [08:18] i have a problem. [08:18] I dont want to restart my computer [08:18] but my DVD is stuck in the second DVD drive [08:19] and it is shown as mounted [08:19] but when I try to unmount i cant [08:19] I left DVD in drive last night [08:19] and now i cant open it [08:20] My second (pata, master) DVD recorder opens and works fine [08:20] But slave pata drive (cdrw DVD combo) wont open tray [08:20] I were reading from it last night [08:20] and DVD is stil IN [08:21] How to kill/disable those processes that are holding DVD inside [08:21] Or connect/disconnect /dev/hdb drive [08:21] withour shutting down computer? [08:22] I just tried. [08:22] I CAN read from it and ir reads fine [08:23] But it is simply stuck and i cand umount it and open tray [08:23] "/media/cdrom0: device is busy [08:23] ... [08:28] nikolam: did you try to use lsof to find which processes are using your DVD drive? [08:31] lsof have huge output [08:32] grep for cdrom0 then [08:32] nooutput [08:32] where is cdrom0 mounted? [08:32] just a sec, pid 9491 is in error message [08:33] /dev/hdb 4.2G 4.2G 0 100% /media/cdrom0 [08:33] you could grep for hdb then [08:34] no output with hdb eather. [08:34] but error message is: USER PID ACCESS COMMAND [08:34] you might be able to umount with --force, but then you might not be able to mount it again [08:34] without a reboot [08:34] tryed that [08:35] umount2: Device or resource busy [08:35] umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy [08:35] pid is 9491 bash [08:35] you have no thunar windows or anything with DVD drive contenst? [08:36] maybe a bash session in /media/cdrom0 ? [08:36] I killed that bash process [08:36] kill -9 9491 [08:36] and now i can umount :) [08:36] then you might just be stuck with the DVD drive till next reboot [08:37] aaah [08:37] nice [08:37] ejected [08:37] so... point is.. [08:37] to look at the error messages and to kill that process next time :) [08:37] 10X a lot for help [08:37] :) [08:38] siggjen, 10x [08:38] i'd try to kill without -9 first but ok [08:39] i use -9 as last resort, thanks anyway [08:39] :) [08:41] (: [09:40] Hi @ all [09:40] I need some help [09:41] I can't mount my 8 GB SD Card on my eee pc [09:42] Hello, is there anybode here? [09:42] anybody [09:44] nobbi: how did you try to mount the sd card? [09:47] per Terminal [09:47] which command? [09:47] Had find some sites in the net and I was following the instructions [09:48] sudo nano -l [09:48] I [09:48] #ve forgotten the rest [09:49] you got the url for the site? [09:49] it's so hard for a linux newbie [09:49] just a moment, I try to find out [09:51] i'd mount a sd card with something like this: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/mountpoint [09:51] ofcourse depending on the sd card being in /dev/sdb1 [09:55] mount: mount point /media/mountpoint does not exist [09:55] make it then [09:55] or change to a mountpoint that suits you better [09:55] How to do? [09:56] mkdir /media/mountpoint [09:56] /media/mountpoint is the path to the folder where you want to mount the drive [09:56] you can place it many places [09:57] you might need to put a sudo in fornt of that command [09:58] s/fornt/front/ [09:58] At the moment, it work [09:58] The ( GB sd card is mounted [09:58] 8 GB [09:59] you might want to put it in /etc/fstab [09:59] try to read man fstab [09:59] and google it [09:59] I try to find out [10:00] It's easier for me in german [10:00] man is a nice command to learn about things [10:54] sdfds [10:55] is there any one willing to help me [10:55] with some irc problem [10:56] irc? [10:56] yes [10:57] can not connect to the server [10:57] my client is php irc server .platform :linux === march is now known as march_afk [13:11] ive a problem with a realtek 8187 card. it isnt listed under any sort of network config tool, but when i run "lsusb" it appears, does anyone know how i can get my system to detect this card as a wireless adapter [13:12] i have a similar problem =P [13:16] !wireless [13:16] Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [13:25] Hi [13:26] Is language support improved in hardy in comparison to dapper? [13:26] In dapper, many menu entries remain englisch when installing german language support. [13:28] das ist nicht gut! [13:28] Finde ich auch. [13:29] grothesk: yes, it is improved [13:32] Then I'll cosider upgrading my parents dapper to hardy this summer. [13:46] ok one thing that cannot be performed on 128 mb ram boxes is the use of gui packet managers [13:46] lol it went using 125 mb of swap [14:13] good morning! hardy beta question [14:14] can't access my ntfs hd [14:16] !hardy [14:16] !ntfs | Gar1 [14:16] Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu [14:16] Gar1: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE [14:16] hehe [14:17] thanks.... [14:17] Gar1: try the ntfs-3g link === Iskr_ is now known as Iskr [15:18] mmmh [16:45] yo guys, im looking for progrram that can like.... rar a huge iso file, but mark it up into like .... 2 areas both 500mb... then wen i click extract on part 1... it will extract part2 also and make the iso again [16:48] if you use rar with the -v500M option it will make such a multivolume archive [16:49] then unrar will rebuild if you have all the pieces [16:49] i dunno of a graphical client for rar [16:49] 9,is [16:50] wait, how do i get rar with the -v500M? [16:50] full description of options is in /usr/share/doc/rar/rar.txt.gz [16:51] ok [18:34] hi [18:34] does anyone here uses linux software raid1 [18:36] I installed my xubuntu a year ago o software raid1 partition i made during setup [18:37] and i had another raid0 partition [18:37] Now i decided to turn raid0 to raid1 [18:37] /dev/md0: 54.38GiB raid1 2 devices, 0 spares. [18:37] :) [18:38] and i have done cat /proc/mdstat http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62341/ [18:38] Now I see that my system md0 raid1 is not the same labeled as md2 i just created! [18:38] hi keb [18:38] :) [18:39] keb would you please look at the pastebin and tell me why md0 is different then md2 i just created? [18:40] is md0 cofigured right here at me, as 2 devices, 0 spares like you? [18:40] or setup that uses md2 now is the same as yours? [18:40] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62341/ [18:40] looks like you didnt add the sda6 partitions to the md0 assemly [18:41] just a sec, sda6 and sdb6 are parts of md2 assembly [18:41] you have three partitions: sda5, sda6, sdb6 [18:41] do you want all of them in a raid1? [18:41] ahaaaa sdb5 is not even ADDED to RAID??? aaah [18:42] oh, now i see, i lived in oblivion through all of las year with md0 raid1 with not actually using raid1 aaah [18:42] hehe [18:43] ok, I will tranfer all of my system to md2 anyway [18:43] well at least your sdb5 partition is nice and rested [18:44] aaaah keb keb, you are hurting me aaaah [18:44] ;I)) [18:44] :) [18:44] Ok, I am just not shure why that was the case [18:45] I made that raid during setup of ubuntu [18:45] xubuntu [18:45] xubuntu is too slow ;) [18:45] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=741631&page=2 [18:45] Ok, I have one more question, [18:46] If I want to make sda5 and sdb5 like, separate normal partitions, [18:47] so that i can use whole space there, should i use raid0 for that [18:47] or can i make them have data on them in a normal fashion [18:47] but to make them and act like a single device? [18:48] nikolam : either raid0 or lvm [18:48] lvm has lower risk of failure [18:49] should i mess up with lvm, could i continue to use md2 as raid1 and use lvm at the same time [18:49] i never used lvm [18:49] raid0 should be faster [18:50] lvm comes installed with xubuntu, but i never figured out how to set it up [18:50] Yes, but i am thinking, if I loose one drive, not to loose all data, but just to make them adressed as one drive [18:51] I have no experience with lvm , also i am not shure how 2 xp installations would like lvm on drive beside 2 ubuntus [18:51] yes that would be lvm, they are just blocks of storage catenated. with raid0 they are striped and one drive going down means lose all data [18:51] and lvm on top [18:51] Ok, to me lvm sounds better for semi-important data [18:51] oh you mean combine storage of md0 and md2? [18:52] no no, i will break md0 to eather raid0 or vvm with system and important data on md2 as raid1 [18:53] Stroganoff is that the new xubuntu install [18:54] nope [18:54] no, I am using is since 7.10 came out [18:55] I plan just to copy whole system to new md2 mount it as root restart an delete md0 [19:45] Hi [19:46] If I just copy whole system to another partition [19:46] and change /etc/fstab and grub settings [19:46] will it be enough to migrate linux from one partition to another? [19:47] you also have to run grub [19:47] yes. [19:47] cp all fix fstab, fix /boot/grub/menu.lst [19:48] and that is it? [19:48] if I just copy, will it also kopu appropriate permisions? [19:48] Both partitions are ext3 [19:49] you can use dd to copy partitions [19:49] new partition is smaller. I will not copy part of /home [19:50] i am not sure about the special files like /dev [19:50] me neaither [19:51] maybe i should use cp --preserve [20:04] use rsync [20:04] rsync -a src dst [20:04] or or tar with a command like 'tar -c . | tar -C /dst -x' === zoredache_ is now known as zoredache [20:07] rsync would be great. [20:07] I just need to make src partition to have less data then dst [20:08] or maybe tar would be better in this case [20:08] there should be an exclude parameter to rsync [20:09] it would be very nice [20:10] check the man page ;) [20:12] i checked: should rsync -a / /md2--exclude=/home do the trick? [20:17] you would probably want a space after the md2... you might also want to through in a -v so you see what is going on [22:08] how do i import my photos with xubuntu 8.04beta/ [22:08] ? [22:09] plug in the camera to usb, an icon should show up on the desktop, copy the files... [22:10] keb: i plugged in camera to usb, powered on camera, but no icon on desktop [22:10] my camera worked in ubuntu 7.10 [22:10] hmm [22:10] do i need a special program? [22:11] not likely [22:11] when i plug in my iPod, i see an icon on desktop, but not with my digicam [22:11] if you do 'lsusb' in a terminal does it show the camera plugged in? [22:11] yes [22:12] Bus 001 Device 005: ID 04a9:3074 Canon, Inc. PowerShot A60 (ptp) [22:15] keb, you there? [22:15] yes. not sure what now [22:16] this is a strange problem [22:25] how can i figure out whether my camera is set up to work as USB drive? [22:28] I have a Canon A610. How can I download the pictures from it under Xubuntu 8.04beta? === S0210 is now known as Salix_ [22:29] is the camera in "review mode" [22:30] keb: Yes, in review mode. [22:32] keb: What's next? I have no idea if it is recognised at all... [22:32] if you do 'lsusb' in a terminal does it show the camera plugged in? [22:33] another fellow here has the same problem [22:33] mkdir /media/camera; mount /dev/sdb1 /media/camera [22:33] Salix_: (make sure you power on comp before trying the lsusb command [22:33] might work [22:34] keb: "lsusb" finds it. [22:36] folks, what's the Xubuntu equivalent of Ubuntu's "Places / Computer"? [22:36] thunar isn't that bad starting point [22:38] siggjen: /dev/sdb1 doesn't exist [22:38] maybe it's /dev/sda1 instead [22:38] i'd browse /dev/sd* to check [22:39] siggjen: /dev/sda1 seems to be OK [22:40] /dev/sda1 could be your sata hard disk too [22:41] keb: I'm afraid you're right... (seeing the content of /media/camera) [22:44] this thread has some things people tried with previous versions https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libgphoto2/+bug/91250 [22:44] Launchpad bug 91250 in libgphoto2 "[edgy-backports] Error in libgphoto2 udev rules" [High,Won't fix] [22:46] redwhitewaldo does your camera have a PC and a PTP setting? [22:46] keb: how can i figure that out? [22:47] well your lsusb is saying PTP so i'm guessing it does [22:47] redwhitewaldo: there is a places plugin for the panel [22:47] TheSheep: oh, yeah. I have the places plugin already there, right between "applications" and firefox icon [22:49] PC = USB mass storage mode, PTP = Picture Transfer Protocol mode [22:50] keb, oh yeah, so i guess my camera has a PTP setting. [22:50] keb, how can i figure out whether my camera has a PC (USB mass storage mode) setting? [22:50] keb: I don't have /etc/udev/rules.d/45-libgphoto2.rules [22:51] redwhitewaldo : the manual for the camera maybe [22:51] Salix_ yeah that may have changed in 8.04beta. is gphoto2 installed? [22:53] «lsmod | grep usb_storage» could tell if the module is loaded or not [22:54] keb: Khm... No. I checked only libgphoto2-2 but forgot to check gphoto2 (and gtkam). They're not installed yet. That should be the next step, right? [22:55] Salix_ maybe. your system should see the camera without those apps [22:55] keb: the manual (http://www.retrevo.com/search/f/d/742a0e086fc8fb40748d194346461e14.pdf?email=) doesn't say anything about it being a PC/USB camera [22:57] keb: Would you recommend to try to give a try with gphoto2 or rather to find the reason seeing the camera only from "lsusb"? [22:57] if you have a memory card reader in the computer, you can try taking out the memory card from the camera and plugging it directly into the computer [22:58] assuming the slot is the same type [22:58] assuming that my camera (powershot a60) is a PTP camera and not a PC/USB-Mass_storage camera, what should i do now? [22:58] ...to get pics from cam to comp? [22:59] Salix_ : i would try to figure out what is wrong before complicating the situation with more software [23:00] hi, keb. i don't think my canon powershot a60 can do USB-mass_storage mode. I think my camera can only do PTP mode. What is the next step? 8-( [23:00] 8-) [23:02] redwhitewaldo : i don't know. google around for PTP support and ubuntu. i have to go to meeting so good luck [23:02] keb, my cam says it DOES have ptp. so why do we need to search for that? [23:03] well the question is how to use the PTP in xubuntu [23:03] i see [23:03] keb, are you saying that xubuntu doesn't have as good digital camera support as ubuntu? [23:04] redwhitewaldo not saying that [23:04] keb: as well as I see it is the same question for me (Canon A610 is another PTP case) [23:05] this thread might be relevant too https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gphoto2/+bug/189506 [23:05] Launchpad bug 189506 in gphoto2 "Normal user can't access USB camera Error (-53: 'Could not claim the USB device')" [Undecided,Fix released] [23:06] bbl [23:09] is there no makeshift solution to importing the pics from cam to comp? No command I can enter into terminal? [23:16] I have to go [23:17] keb: thanks [23:26] is it possible to give each workspace its own background image/color? [23:37] hi