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_myrtille_Hi :)13:51
_myrtille_could someone help me with creating a bugreport?13:51
james_wsure, what is the problem you are having?13:51
_myrtille_i found an invalid bugreport concerning "my" bug:13:51
_myrtille_https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-games/+bug/19062513:52
ubotuLaunchpad bug 190625 in gnome-games "robot crashes when I teleport" [Undecided,Invalid]13:52
_myrtille_in which is stated, that one should submit the crashreport in var/crash13:52
_myrtille_but i don't have a crashreport there, so i can't submit it13:52
_myrtille_how do i make one?13:52
pedro__myrtille_: get a trace with gdb13:52
_myrtille_ok :)13:52
pedro__myrtille_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash <- all the info is there13:53
_myrtille_yes, i read it, but i wasn't sure wether i should follow general instructions or the specific way, pointed out in that bugreport13:53
_myrtille_and the second thing is: I dried making a log with valgrind, but I only get:valgrind: /usr/games/gnobots2: Permission denied13:54
james_w_myrtille_: to use valgrind you will first have to run "sudo chmod g-s /usr/games/gnobots2"13:57
_myrtille_what does it do?13:57
james_wand then "sudo chmod g+s /usr/games/gnobots2" when you are finished.13:57
james_wit removes the setgid bit from the permissions of the executable.13:57
_myrtille_thx :)13:57
james_wsetgid means that when you run the game you are able to write to the high score file, we have to temporarily remove that capability to please valgrind.13:58
_myrtille_ok :)13:58
james_w_myrtille_: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-games/+bug/213341, thanks.14:19
ubotuLaunchpad bug 213341 in gnome-games "robots crashes when trying to teleport" [Undecided,New]14:19
_myrtille_:)14:20
_myrtille_no. thank you :)14:20
james_w_myrtille_: it would be great if you could install some dbgsym packages to make the backtrace better.14:20
james_wat the moment there's not a lot of information there.14:20
_myrtille_actually, i tried, i installed this yelp-dbgsym package mentionned in the wiki-article14:20
_myrtille_are there others, that would improve the result?14:21
james_wah, that's just an example.14:21
james_wyou want gnome-games-dbgsym14:21
_myrtille_ok :p... i didn't get that one :p14:21
james_wand probably some others would help, one moment14:21
james_wlibgnome2-0-dbgsym and libgtk2.0-0-dbgsym please14:22
james_walso, it doesn't crash for me, and the differences are that I'm using gnome in English, so one of those could be the cause14:22
james_wcan you try running it as "LANG=C gnobots2" please?14:23
seb128why not just using apport to send the crash?14:23
james_wthere is no crash file apparently.14:23
seb128btw, bug #19062514:24
ubotuLaunchpad bug 190625 in gnome-games "robot crashes when I teleport" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19062514:24
seb128ah, it's noted in the new one14:24
_myrtille_i can't install the debugging symbols because they depend on gnome-games version 1:2.20..3-0ubuntu1, i have 1:2.20.1-0ubuntu114:26
_myrtille_but i can't find the newer version with aptitude14:26
james_whave you done an aptitude update?14:27
_myrtille_@james_w  i'm still getting the crash when i use your command to change the language14:27
_myrtille_i did one 20 Minutes ago when integrating the sources for the debugging packages14:28
james_wmaybe your mirror hasn't been updated yet14:28
james_whttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gnome-games/gnome-games_2.20.3-0ubuntu1_i386.deb14:29
james_woops, wrong one14:29
james_w_myrtille_: are you on gutsy?14:30
_myrtille_yes14:30
james_wah, ok, the dbgsym debs only apply to hardy.14:31
_myrtille_i'm feeling stupider by the minute ;)14:32
james_wno need for that, I should have asked earlier14:34
james_wso, there's a possibility that this is fixed in Hardy already, would you be able to test?14:35
_myrtille_i would be willing to test, i don't know if i'm able... what do i need to do?14:35
james_wyou could download the beta and try the live cd.14:36
james_wor you could upgrade to hardy.14:36
_myrtille_na... i don't think i'll be upgrading anytime soon. :p14:37
_myrtille_it's the only pc i have and i need it to be reliably working for another month14:38
_myrtille_but i'll try the live cd14:38
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_myrtille_james_w: re, sry for the wait... just managed to kill my lan connection, so it might take a while, until i can download hardy15:17
james_w_myrtille_: no problem.15:17
_myrtille_but i let you know (here and in the bugreport) of the results15:17
james_wgreat, thanks.15:17
jcastroseb128: do you remember that bug wrt. gnome-vfs/gvfs that was wrongly linked upstream?16:02
jcastroseb128: I found out how to delete watches16:02
seb128jcastro: how?16:02
seb128jcastro: well, deleting watches work16:02
jcastroon the left side there is an applet thing for bug watches16:02
seb128jcastro: closing upstream taks as invalid works16:02
jcastroah16:02
seb128my issue is that you can't reassign the upstream task16:02
seb128or delete it16:03
jcastroah ok16:03
jcastroI will bring that up today16:03
seb128so you have to keep an invalid task on the wrong product which is annoying16:03
seb128thanks ;-)16:03
jcastrodo you remember the bug though? I need to screenshot the watch-deletion thing for the wiki. :D16:03
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bicyclistAre the hardy heron repos broken ?16:51
seb128bicyclist: no, why?16:54
bicyclistcause the update removes nautilus, and ubuntu-desktop !!!!16:54
bicyclistI am now on kde cause gnome does not work any more on my hardy install.16:54
bicyclistbroken dependencies when i try to installl ubuntu-desktop16:54
bicyclistNow my whole gnome installation is broken and im a forced to use kde16:58
pranayeah, i decided against taking today's updates when i saw that it was going to remove ubuntu-desktop.16:59
prana:-/16:59
bicyclistshould have done that too but hopefully it will be fixed soon.16:59
seb128that's not a bug17:00
seb128that's on purpose17:00
seb128that's supposed to make you stop updating while everything is not available17:00
bicyclistGrin.17:00
seb128now if users where reading before acknowledging the removals17:00
bicyclistwell came home from work, brain on hold ;)17:01
bicyclistseb128 so we are in a transition ? What is being brought into the reps ?17:06
seb128bicyclist: libgnome-desktop-2 and gnome-control-center needs to be updated together17:06
seb128is that the issue you are having?17:06
bicyclistYes i assume.17:06
bicyclistso we just have to wait i assume.17:09
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bicyclistGrin, just in the process of reinstalling ubuntu-desktop17:12
qenseguys, any thoughts about bug 212271? Especially the last two comments17:16
qensehttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24/+bug/21227117:17
ubotuLaunchpad bug 212271 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24 "2.6.24-15-generic: saa7134-alsa makes HAL to fail" [Medium,Confirmed]17:17
pranaqense: not knowing too much about it, but hal breaking seems bad.17:25
qenseyes, that is what I thought too17:26
qensebut I'm not sure on what to do next17:26
RainCTubotu, give me bug #212250 :P17:26
qensebug 21225017:27
ubotuLaunchpad bug 212250 in boson "Merge boson 0.13-3 from Debian(Unstable)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21225017:27
qensethat one?17:27
RainCTo_O17:27
qenseyou shouldn't use the # I suppose17:27
RainCTqense: thanks17:27
qense:)17:27
RainCTit used to work with #17:27
RainCTbug #21225017:27
RainCTbug 21225017:27
andrea-bsbug #21225017:28
qensebug 21225017:28
ubotuLaunchpad bug 212250 in boson "Merge boson 0.13-3 from Debian(Unstable)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21225017:28
qense:P17:28
RainCTqense: seems like he likes you :P17:28
qenseI seem the only one who can get it working17:28
qensemaybe because I and ubotu live in the same country ;)17:28
qensebug 117:28
qenseaaargh! he stopped listening17:29
ubotuLaunchpad bug 1 in ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117:29
pranaqense: re 212271, do you know what the syslog messages about Tainted refer to?17:29
RainCTbug 217:29
RainCT:'(     xD17:29
pranabug 21225017:29
ubotuLaunchpad bug 212250 in boson "Merge boson 0.13-3 from Debian(Unstable)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21225017:29
qenseubotu doesn't work always17:29
qenseprana: no I don't really17:30
pranaqense: i don't know what the tainted stuff is but it looks suspiciously like a bug in the sound driver's /proc implementation caused hald to get beat up by the kernel.17:30
qensedo you have a bug number?17:30
pranai'm looking at the messages.txt file from bug 212271. e.g., log lines from Apr  5 15:18:4517:31
ubotuLaunchpad bug 212271 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24 "2.6.24-15-generic: saa7134-alsa makes HAL to fail" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21227117:31
bdmurrayprana: tainted means there is a proprietary driver loaded17:31
pranabdmurray: ah yes, the nvidia module in this case, perhaps.17:33
qensesaa7134-alsa is loaded there17:33
bdmurrayusually you see something like "nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel"17:34
pranabdmurray: exactly; so the taint state is probably not related to the actual bug.17:34
qenseat the last line gnome-keyring has a segfault17:34
qenseis gnome-keyring having a segfault everytime?17:35
pranaqense: i'd imagine that's b/c it is trying to use hal?17:35
qensenetwork-admin had one too(at least one)17:35
qenseb/c?17:35
pranabecause17:35
qenseok17:35
qenseis hal actually running at that time?17:36
qensethe log starts with a segfault of gdm!17:36
pranai'd say that hal need not be an affected package for this particular bug; the kernel team should track down the problem from the kernel oops in the messages file and fix the driver bug.17:38
qenseok, so I should mark the bug for hal as won't fix and assign the other to the kernel oops team?17:38
prana(if I were in bugcontrol) i'd definitely do the assigning to the kernel oops... not sure if invalid or wontfix is better status for the hal bug.17:39
bdmurrayThe last comment regarding hal seems reasonable to me17:39
qenseyeah, hal shouldn't stop working when a driver causes problems17:40
qensebut is it really a kernel oops? It doesn't look like the stuff described at the KernelOops page at the wiki, which looks more like a kernel panic17:43
bdmurraythis one has an oops in it17:44
qenseok17:44
bdmurrayhttp://launchpadlibrarian.net/13157843/dmesg17:44
qensei'll tag it17:44
qenseit is already17:44
bdmurrayyeah, sorry about that.17:45
qense:)17:46
qenseoh no! I missed a few karma points!17:46
bdmurrayheh17:46
qenseso what should be done more to the bug, especially concerning the hal part17:48
qense?17:48
pranacan karma points be redeemed for prizes? ;-)17:48
RainCTlol17:53
IulianThat's interesting indeed :)17:55
qensebut you can just create your own project, create a lot of blueprints and you'll have 10000 karma17:56
qensethat's very easy17:56
Arbycould someone look at bug 213112. Sounds like a server problem to me18:00
ubotuLaunchpad bug 213112 in update-manager "Power PC Security Repositories Bug" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21311218:00
Arbybut just wondering if there is a known problem with these repos18:01
penI got white screen after suspend, is there a way to solve this?18:07
penI still can login by typing pass and press enter18:07
penbut it's disturbing to not have a login screen instead of a plain white screen18:08
mvoArby: thanks for telling me about #21312218:22
Arbymvo:  no problem18:23
ArbyI'm setting off on an evening of update-manager bug triage18:23
james_wgo Arby :-)18:25
Arbymvo: 213112 looks to have been around for a week or so18:27
Arbybit odd for a repo problem18:27
Arbyis there something unusual about those repos18:28
james_wArby: it appears as if the ports haven't had the source setup for the hardy security yet, I'm not sure who to ask about that.18:32
mvoArby: I'm checking this bug now, I think its something in update-manager (or the user setup that update-manager should correct)18:42
mvoArby: please let me know about more interessting ones :-D I very much appreciate your help!18:42
Arbymvo: what's the best thing to do with bug 213040? do I mark it as patch included or something?19:06
ubotuLaunchpad bug 213040 in update-manager "update-manager: spelling errors in hardy.tar.gz" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21304019:06
mvoArby: yeah, thanks. bad timing unfortunately as we are deep in string freeze19:10
mvoArby: and it would be nice if we could get a diff instead of a copy of the tarball with the fixes in :)19:10
Arbyok, I can ask for one. Is there a tag for patch included or how do I mark it?19:11
james_wArby: if the user checks the "This is a patch" box when they add an attachment then the attachment is marked as a patch19:13
james_wyou can also tag the bug report as "patch", I don't know how mvo likes to work though.19:13
Arbyas in, edit tags -> patch you mean?19:14
Arbysorry I don't understand tagging yet19:14
james_wArby: yes, "Edit description/tags" and then add "patch" to the tags text box.19:15
Arbyok thanks19:15
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pranai want to have the submitter forward bug 163341 upstream and mark it as wontfix; reasonable?19:19
ubotuLaunchpad bug 163341 in git-core "git-svn gets wrong parent revision for tags" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/16334119:19
mvojames_w: thanks, I don't have any preferences yet, a patch tag sounds good to me.19:23
james_wprana: why wontfix?19:24
Arbymvo any thoughts on importance for bug 18646519:33
ubotuLaunchpad bug 186465 in update-manager ""distribution upgrade" hangs during update to hardy" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18646519:34
Arbythere's a lot of noise in that thread19:34
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Arbybut there's also some potentially interesting stuff19:34
Arbysee the comment by jan.tore.korneliussen19:35
* mvo looks19:36
mvoit shouldn't hang anymore (I hope :)19:36
Arbyso that should be marked fix released ?19:37
Arbyin bug 212020 is update manager really the problem or is it just the messanger in this case?19:49
ubotuLaunchpad bug 212020 in update-manager "update-manager crashed with SIGSEGV in PyThread_release_lock()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21202019:49
mvoArby: I need to look into #186465 again to be sure19:50
mvoArby: for 212020 I suspect its just the messanger, a segfault here is either python or python-apt, it looks like a difficult one, I haven't seen any duplicates yet too19:51
Arbymvo: oh sorry. I may have marked 186465 wrongly then19:51
mvoArby: no problem, I will check and update the status then19:51
Arbymvo: what do you want me to do with 212020, assign to python-apt or just leave it alone for now?19:53
mvoArby: I would say leave for now, I will inspect the code to see if I can find obvious mistakes in my threading code19:54
Arbyok19:55
pranajames_w: it seems like a bug that someone else should fix, not ubuntu19:55
james_wprana: that's not what wontfix would mean here I think.19:57
james_wwe would normally leave it confirmed or triaged in Ubuntu and add an upstream watch.19:57
james_wasking for them to forward it is a good idea though.19:57
Arbymvo: next one is bug 211978.20:00
ubotuLaunchpad bug 211978 in update-manager "do-release-upgrade -d doesn't work immediately after running do-release-upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21197820:00
Arbydapper -> hardy server upgrades should work yes?20:01
Arbyah nevermind20:02
mvoArby: yeah, looks like a bug in update-manager-core, I milestoned it and prepare a fix20:02
Arbyyeah I just saw the confirmed lavel20:02
Arby*label20:02
Arbymy bad20:02
pranajames_w: as far as I know, git does not have a bug tracker. so what should be done in that case?20:03
prana(i asked on #git and they said, e-mail the git dev list.)20:03
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pranajames_w: also, i am not completely convinced its a bug versus some oddness in handling the particular svn configuration the user reported.  (git-svn, as far as I know, relies on certain conventions in svn usage, that this config might not match.)20:08
crashsystemshas anyone taken a look at bug #204420?20:23
ubotuLaunchpad bug 204420 in hwtest "hwtest-gtk "crashes" and consumes 100% cpu power" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20442020:23
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james_wprana: yeah, they use the list.20:33
pranajames_w: so how would we add an upstream watch?20:34
james_wI don't know if you can do it with mailing lists, bdmurray do you know?20:34
james_wprana: I've just read it and I think they should definitely take it to the mailing list.20:36
james_wyou can ask them to report back with any findings.20:36
pranajames_w: and leave it as incomplete?20:36
james_wI don't know about that. I would go for confirmed so that it doesn't expire, but I'm not sure.20:38
james_wor just New perhaps.20:38
bdmurrayjames_w: I saw a box where you have an option of saying you "I have already emailed an upstream bug contact:"20:40
james_wah, I think I've seen that too.20:40
bdmurrayI'm not quite certain what that does exactly though20:40
james_wif you enter an empty upstream task and then click the arrow to edit it you are given several options.20:41
bdmurrayHmm, it is a odd placeholder20:41
bdmurrayshows up like "'Bug tracker at mailto:bob@localhost.com'"20:42
james_wit would be useful to be able to have a url of the mailing list archives there as well, so that you can find any discussion if you are interested.20:43
james_wI don't know if that would work.20:43
bdmurrayI believe launchpad does some sanity checking on urls20:44
james_wyeah, bug tracker watches are quite restrictive I understand, I think it would be useful to be less restrictive here.20:45
Arbya little help on bug 208112 please, does restricted-drivers-manager lock the dpkg database at all?20:48
ubotuLaunchpad bug 208112 in update-manager "first update fails after fresh hardy install" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20811220:48
pranajames_w: huh. i'll leave it as incomplete for now and ask him to follow up.20:48
pranaLooking at bug 203594; should it be set to triaged/low?20:50
ubotuLaunchpad bug 203594 in xmonad "xmonad does not have xinerama/twinview support - possibly a libgch6-x11 problem" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20359420:50
james_wArby: it will do if it is updating it or installing something.20:51
Arbyjames_w: ok thanks20:52
mvoArby: it might be a apt-get update in the background, its certainly not good usability that it gives this error20:55
Arbymvo:  I've asked the user if they asked r-d-m to do any installation20:56
mvoyeah, that sounds good20:56
mvothanks20:56
Arbysurely it shouldn't lock the database just to report that action might be necessary20:57
Arbyat least in theory20:57
* mvo nods20:58
Arbyalthough I suppose it has to check the availability of packages20:58
mvoyeah, but it can do this without locking20:59
pranacan someone set bug 208894 to wishlist?21:05
ubotuLaunchpad bug 208894 in mercurial "mercurial-1.x upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20889421:05
blueyedprana: done, also added the upgrade tag. If you want to have it in Hardy, you need to get a FeatureFreezeExcpetion for it (see wiki.ubuntu.com)21:09
pranablueyed: so looks like i'd have to learn how to prepare/build the updated package?21:13
blueyedprana: it would be easier, if it was in Debian already.. but it's not (in unstable). They have 0.9.5-3 (packaging changes) and I'm looking into filing a sync request for it.21:14
pranablueyed: yeah, i would have linked to an upstream debian request but i didn't see one.  unless you count http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=47258321:15
ubotuDebian bug 472583 in mercurial "mercurial: consider enabling inotify extension in 1.0" [Wishlist,Open]21:15
pranai think since hardy is an LTS, it'd definitely be worth having the 1.0 release of mercurial; oddly i only noticed that the new version had been released b/c of this bug. :-)21:16
Arbymvo: bug 206452 seems to be a dupe of 186465 so it looks like this problem still exists :(21:16
ubotuLaunchpad bug 206452 in update-manager "Gutsy to Hardy upgrade freezes" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20645221:16
blueyedprana: well, not really. Anyway, you need a FFe and can look into the details afterwards. I've just tried "uscan" on the Debian source and it updated fine to 1.0. You would need to do this, too and then generate diffstat etc to get an ACK from motu-release.21:17
blueyedprana: I'm not using hg myself, so the bar is quite high for me to jump into this, but I'd be glad to help you out.21:19
blueyedprana: the best would be to ask the Debian maintainer(s) nicely.. when has it been released?21:21
pranablueyed: looks like the hg release was on mar24.21:21
pranablueyed: it would probably be worth me learning how to do this in general but it seems like the best approach would be to have the debian maintainer do this one.21:22
blueyedprana: so maybe file a "Please package new upstream version 1.0" bug report in debian's bts?21:22
blueyedprana: if you want to try it yourself: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Howtos/DebianWatch21:23
blueyedprana: ..but a sync request from the maintainer itself gets an ACK more likely.. ;)21:24
pranablueyed: yeah, i'll see if i can get a debian bug submitted.21:25
warren_https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdebi/+bug/15394321:28
ubotuLaunchpad bug 153943 in gdebi "Gdebi-kde uses massive amounts of memory!" [High,Confirmed]21:28
pranablueyed: Looks like uscan now automatically calls uupdate; though i can't figure out where the new dsc file comes from.21:39
Arbycan someone confirm if bug 206104 is a dupe of bug 107779?21:39
ubotuLaunchpad bug 206104 in update-manager "crashed with 'ascii' codec can't encode characters in position 0-10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20610421:39
ubotuLaunchpad bug 107779 in adept "Upgrade Tool Crashed" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/10777921:39
Arbythey look pretty similar but the traces aren't quite identical21:39
blueyedprana: you need to create the new .dsc yourself, using e.g. "debuild -S"21:39
blueyedprana: maybe that's a better topic for #ubuntu-motu though.. ;)21:40
pranablueyed: ok, cool. i created the debian bug and linked it to the ubuntu one.21:41
mvoArby: riddel should know, but this one *might* be fixed already we should probably ask if he can try it agian21:41
pranablueyed: or rather, linked the ubuntu one to it; is acquiring the FFe something done in parallel?21:42
mvoArby: I don't think its a duplicate21:42
Arbymvo ok21:43
blueyedprana: yes, you need to create a bug to request FFe, but need to provide the info (e.g. Upstream changelog, diffstat etc). I'd wait a day or two, to see if the Debian maintainer reacts.21:43
Arbymvo: you mean the window freeze? ask if who can try it again, the user?21:44
pranablueyed: cool, thanks again.21:44
Arby(sorry too many bugs on the go :) )21:44
mvoArby: yes please, ask the one with the qt decode ascii problem if he can try again21:44
* Arby <-- drowning under the fire hose :)21:45
Arbyok will do21:45
* mvo hugs Arby21:45
mvoyou do great! release time is terrible for update-manager bugreports21:45
* Arby dives back in21:46
mvoI need to go to sleep now, but I will be followup on it tomorrow, thanks again for your help :)21:46
Arbyyour welcome21:46
Arbyif I can make a dent in the list it's time well spent21:47
pranaalright, enough ubuntu bugs for today; maybe will play with learning about generating ffe requests later.21:48
Arbyok that's enough for me I'm off for the night22:02
Arbyhave fun folks22:03
emgenthello people22:44
emgentsomeone know well python-launchpad-bugs?22:45
emgentpython-launchpad-bugs support in anteater have some problem, and i`d like a little help for fix it22:45
emgenthttps://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-whitehat/ubuntu-whitehat-project/uwht.dev22:46
emgentbdmurray? :)22:46
bdmurrayemgent: looking22:47
emgentthanks :)22:47
bdmurraywhat happens?22:47
emgentseems not send info22:47
bdmurrayemgent: you might need a "bug.commit" in there22:52
blueyedemgent, bdmurray: yes.22:52
emgentoh shit22:53
emgentbdmurray: blueyed thanks :)22:53
bdmurrayemgent: no problem22:53

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