| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| crevette | bonjour | 07:13 |
|---|---|---|
| dholbach | good morning | 08:14 |
| seb128 | hello dholbach | 08:15 |
| * dholbach hugs seb128 | 08:15 | |
| * seb128 hugs dholbach back | 08:15 | |
| asac | hi ... would gdk_window_lookup(0) give me a valid window? root window? | 09:26 |
| kwwii | seb128: I was thinking about including the clearlooks gtkrc as well since the engine is installed already by default, what do you think? | 09:34 |
| seb128 | kwwii: did you get requests for it? should be alright | 09:34 |
| seb128 | asac: hey, no idea about this one, better to try | 09:34 |
| huats | moring everyone | 09:35 |
| asac | seb128: ok | 09:35 |
| kwwii | seb128: yes, quite a few people asked of it | 09:37 |
| mvo | asac: if you need the root window id, better use GDK_ROOT_WINDOW() | 09:37 |
| seb128 | kwwii: the gtkrc takes no space, add it again | 09:37 |
| kwwii | at the same time I hae an small update for the murrine theme | 09:37 |
| seb128 | lut huats | 09:38 |
| kwwii | execellent, thanks...I'll ping you in a bit | 09:38 |
| asac | mvo: is Xid 0 root window? | 09:38 |
| asac | thats what i ask ;) | 09:38 |
| huats | lut seb128 | 09:38 |
| mvo | asac: aha :) sorry, I don't know. xprop -id 0 gives me a error here, xprop -root is fine, my guess is no | 09:39 |
| asac | ok thanks ... thats what i expected. | 09:39 |
| seb128 | pochu: want to do some gnome updates? ;-) seahorse? | 10:04 |
| * mvo is off for some minutes to switch network | 10:05 | |
| pochu | seb128: yes, and vinagre and vino when they are released ;) | 10:07 |
| seb128 | I'll sync gnome-keyring when it's available on the mirrors | 10:07 |
| seb128 | pochu: there is also gnome-games to do if you are interested | 10:07 |
| pochu | seb128: not that one this time... I need to do things for the uni | 10:08 |
| seb128 | pochu: alright, just asking in case you were looking for updates to do ;-) | 10:09 |
| slomo | seb128: heh, so the epiphany 1st april mail wasn't a joke ;) what are you going to do for ubuntu? keep 2.22 for a long time, move it to universe or get webkit to main? | 11:02 |
| bhale | hi slomo | 11:04 |
| seb128 | slomo: for hardy no change, the webkit backend is not really good yet in 2.22 | 11:04 |
| slomo | yeah, i mean after hardy of course :) | 11:04 |
| slomo | hi bhale | 11:04 |
| bhale | if they get their way they are going to replace gtkhtml with webkit | 11:04 |
| seb128 | slomo: next cycle will likely just package the webkit variant as upstream is doing | 11:04 |
| seb128 | either promote webkit or demote epiphany-browser | 11:05 |
| bhale | I think it will be ok for use then - webkit epiphany is already pretty usable | 11:05 |
| slomo | ok, sounds good | 11:05 |
| bhale | I only have one bug | 11:05 |
| seb128 | it depends on whetever yelp, etc are switched to webkit | 11:05 |
| slomo | bhale: are plugins working good already? | 11:05 |
| seb128 | bhale: can you use plugins now? | 11:05 |
| bhale | slomo: eh, ive never used plugins | 11:06 |
| bhale | the bug is clicking links with a target don't work | 11:06 |
| pochu | seb128: seahorse looks good, and slomo has already updated it in pkg-gnome too http://emilio.pozuelo.org/~deb/seahorse_2.22.1-0ubuntu1.dsc | 11:14 |
| slomo | seahorse is only a trivial cleanup change | 11:14 |
| asac | mvo gone? | 11:52 |
| asac | ah | 11:53 |
| asac | ok | 11:53 |
| asac | :) | 11:53 |
| pochu | slomo: do we want the new gstreamer core/base in hardy? | 12:05 |
| asac | mvo: do you have glatzors cell phone? | 12:13 |
| asac | number ;) | 12:13 |
| mvo | eh? | 12:13 |
| mvo | asac: I think I have his regular number, but ... what do you need it for? | 12:13 |
| slomo | pochu: if you love version numbers... :) we already have the two patches | 13:08 |
| pochu | ah, so the updates are kind of useless for us... *nevermind* :) | 13:09 |
| pochu | although base is a sync, so could update it | 13:09 |
| pochu | s/could/we could/ | 13:09 |
| seb128 | ok, I changed the wikiTODO again | 13:14 |
| seb128 | we have now a table listing the things claimed as it used to have | 13:14 |
| fernando | moin all | 13:14 |
| seb128 | and the list is only used to list usual updaters so you know if you should contact somebody before starting on an update | 13:15 |
| seb128 | hey fernando | 13:15 |
| fernando | hey seb128 | 13:15 |
| seb128 | asac: http://download.gnome.org/sources/epiphany/2.22/epiphany-2.22.1.tar.gz, wants to do the update? | 13:43 |
| pedro_ | salut seb128! | 13:44 |
| seb128 | hey pedro_! | 13:44 |
| glatzor | servus asac | 13:44 |
| asac | glatzor: hey ;) | 13:45 |
| asac | glatzor: got my SMS ? | 13:45 |
| glatzor | asac, you are already approved :) | 13:46 |
| asac | seb128: ill after sorting out the langpacks ;) ... or if i need a break from that :) | 13:46 |
| * asac hugs glatzor | 13:46 | |
| asac | glatzor: sorry for the SMS, btw | 13:46 |
| seb128 | asac: ok, thanks | 13:46 |
| asac | glatzor: so how can i approve? | 13:47 |
| glatzor | asac, no problem. I was just a little bit surprised. | 13:47 |
| asac | do i just need to select the radio button next to the suggestion? | 13:47 |
| glatzor | was my first ubuntu related sms :) | 13:47 |
| asac | like for https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/xulrunner-1.9/+pots/xulrunner/de/+translate?batch=10&show=untranslated | 13:47 |
| asac | glatzor: select the radio and then "save & continue" ? | 13:49 |
| glatzor | asac, what is the problem at all? | 13:51 |
| glatzor | asac, an import problem? | 13:51 |
| asac | glatzor: we have a bunch of translations that have suggestoins that need to be improved (due to deficiency of our import script) | 13:51 |
| asac | glatzor: so basically its going over the list and approving the suggestion | 13:51 |
| asac | some might have two ... but its obvious which is the right one | 13:51 |
| asac | glatzor: i am trying thta now ;) (e.g. selecting the radio next to the suggestion and pushing "save & continue" | 13:52 |
| glatzor | asac, you just have to pay attention to brain split problems in the future | 13:52 |
| asac | glatzor: huh? | 13:53 |
| glatzor | asac, that is ok. you want to do this for all languages? or only the "core" languages? | 13:53 |
| asac | glatzor: personally i will only do german and hope for translator teams to do that for the other | 13:53 |
| glatzor | asac, if you overwrite/confirm a translation in launchpad you won't get any upstream changes later | 13:53 |
| asac | as sometimes there are two suggestions and i have no idea about chinese | 13:54 |
| dholbach | seb128, pitti: I implemented your suggestions for 5-a-day | 13:54 |
| asac | glatzor: ok. you say that new translation imports will not overwrite those tha i now approve? | 13:54 |
| glatzor | asac, afaik right. | 13:55 |
| asac | i think thats ok. given that we are at early stage we might be able to reset things once the import works perfect (me hides from translators) | 13:55 |
| asac | but in order to get the right translation now i need to approve them ;) | 13:55 |
| asac | and i want to test whats missing when i have german fully translated | 13:55 |
| seb128 | dholbach: which one? | 13:56 |
| dholbach | seb128: namespacing stuff :) | 13:57 |
| dholbach | it's 5-a-day <options> now (the old stuff still works via symlinks) | 13:57 |
| seb128 | ah ;-) | 13:57 |
| asac | glatzor: i guess new imports will make new suggestions pop up? | 13:57 |
| glatzor | asac, right | 13:57 |
| asac | glatzor: what happens to the suggestions i am not using? | 13:58 |
| asac | do i need to remove them manually for them to disappear? | 13:58 |
| glatzor | asac, they will be sitting there until the end of time :) | 13:58 |
| asac | or will they be removed because i chose one out of two? | 13:58 |
| asac | glatzor: no chance to deny them? | 13:58 |
| glatzor | asac, I am not aware of such a feature | 13:58 |
| asac | thats interesting ... doesn't there accumulate cruft over time= | 13:59 |
| asac | ? | 13:59 |
| asac | there must be something ;) .. ill ask carlos | 13:59 |
| pitti | dholbach: 5aday> thanks! *hug* | 14:00 |
| * dholbach hugs seb128 and pitti | 14:01 | |
| * seb128 hugs dholbach and pitti | 14:01 | |
| seb128 | oh, pitti is there! | 14:01 |
| * Hobbsee hugs dholbach and pitti and seb128 | 14:01 | |
| * seb128 hugs Hobbsee | 14:02 | |
| Hobbsee | :) | 14:02 |
| * dholbach hugs hobbsee back | 14:02 | |
| dholbach | seb128: 5-a-day now has bash completion too and it only commits stuff to the remote branch if you haven't committed anything in the last 60 minutes - that should make it a bit quicker and avoid locks | 14:03 |
| seb128 | cool | 14:06 |
| pitti | hey seb128 | 14:07 |
| pitti | seb128: yeah, woke up very early (6:30) and did my mail and blogged | 14:07 |
| seb128 | pitti: had a nice trip to go there? | 14:08 |
| pitti | seb128: the flight here was pretty hectic, but yesterday was nice (see blog) | 14:08 |
| seb128 | I didn't know that you have a blog, looking ;-) | 14:09 |
| jcastro | seb128: btw, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek/Prep | 14:58 |
| jcastro | seb128: feel free to put a desktop topic on the list, or just let me know and I can do it | 14:59 |
| seb128 | jcastro: ok, will have a look to that, thanks | 15:00 |
| mvo | seb128: if you (or someone else) have a moment, I would appreciate if you could test if compiz from "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/mvo/ubuntu hardy main" work well for you | 15:39 |
| seb128 | ok | 15:39 |
| Amaranth | mvo: btw, works fine for me :) | 15:40 |
| mvo | did anything change with the nautilus/nautilus-cd-burner/libeel2-2 breaks? | 15:40 |
| mvo | Amaranth: cool, thanks .:) | 15:40 |
| Amaranth | but i can't test any of the specific things it was supposed to make better right now | 15:40 |
| seb128 | mvo: I did rebase nautilus on the debian version, I might have dropped a change or something, why? | 15:42 |
| seb128 | mvo: any issue? | 15:42 |
| mvo | seb128: yeah, lts upgrades can not be calculated currently, not sure what the issue is exactly yet | 15:42 |
| mvo | but it might be some inconsitency in the archive | 15:43 |
| mvo | some bits build some not, I haven't really looked into it yet | 15:43 |
| seb128 | ok | 15:44 |
| mvo | yeah, looks like nautilus-cd-burner is not yet publushed | 15:45 |
| mvo | but the libeel2-2 breaks on (<= 2.20.0-1) | 15:46 |
| mvo | eh, no | 15:46 |
| * mvo scratches his head | 15:46 | |
| pochu | great, we can't just sync vinagre this time | 15:49 |
| pochu | unless we merge cdbs, but I doubt we will do it this late in the cycle, pitti? | 15:49 |
| seb128 | pochu: not a good idea no | 15:49 |
| pochu | well, there's no changes needed so it's an easy one | 15:50 |
| ember | pbuilder-satisfydepends-dummy: Depends: ggzd (>= 0.0.14) which is a virtual package. | 15:50 |
| seb128 | mvo: could you sponsor bug #213357? | 15:50 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 213357 in gnome-terminal "Please sponsor gnome-terminal 2.22.1 (main) into Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/213357 | 15:50 |
| ember | i'm getting this on gnome-games | 15:50 |
| seb128 | ember: slomo added a builddepends on ggzd in debian | 15:51 |
| ember | i know, i added it to gnome-games too | 15:52 |
| seb128 | did the upstream configure changed or something? | 15:52 |
| pitti | pochu: no, toolchain changes are not appropriate now | 15:53 |
| mvo | seb128: ok, looks like gnome-control-center is not yet published but libgnome-desktop-2 breaks on it | 15:54 |
| mvo | transient hopefully | 15:54 |
| ember | seb128 http://paste.ubuntu.com/6562/ | 15:54 |
| seb128 | mvo: yes, I've uploaded a g-c-c rebuild one hour ago or so | 15:54 |
| mvo | ok | 15:54 |
| seb128 | ember: the new builddepends doesn't seem required then, not sure why it has been added there | 15:55 |
| seb128 | mvo: can you do the sponsoring? just trying to split GNOME 2.22.1 sponsoring tasks ;-) | 15:55 |
| pitti | pochu: what do you need from the new version? | 15:56 |
| ember | seb128 it ftbs without ggzd | 15:56 |
| seb128 | ember: no idea about the issue | 15:57 |
| pochu | pitti: not really needed... Vinagre in Debian build-depends on it now to get dh_icons called, which is in gnome.mk now, but I can leave it in rules and postpone the sync to Intrepid | 15:59 |
| pitti | pochu: ubuntu's cdbs has done that for ages, so it should be good | 16:00 |
| mvo | seb128, ember: checking out the gnome-terminal update now | 16:00 |
| pochu | pitti: oh, nice | 16:00 |
| ember | ggzd have too many changes upstream to merge it to ubuntu humpfh | 16:02 |
| seb128 | ember: just builddepends on whatever has the requires files rather than on ggzd if that's doesn't work correctly | 16:08 |
| pochu | seb128: err, I thought I was here when I requested you the sync/sponsorship :) | 16:13 |
| seb128 | pochu: that's alright ;-) | 16:13 |
| seb128 | pochu: uploaded | 16:23 |
| ember | seb when you have time check pidgin, is mostly bugfix | 16:59 |
| seb128 | yeah, will do that later today | 16:59 |
| ember | thanks | 17:00 |
| === fernando_ is now known as fernando | ||
| pochu | slomo: can I have sponsoring for this? :) http://emilio.pozuelo.org/~deb/liferea.debdiff | 19:28 |
| pochu | slomo: it backports two patches from SVN, fixing 2 crashes | 19:28 |
| pochu | one I could reproduce it and it's fixed. The other one I couldn't, but jwendell could and has confirmed it fixes it | 19:29 |
| slomo | ok | 19:30 |
| pochu | slomo: thank you :) | 19:52 |
| fta | seb128, i've posted a debdiff of the new cairo 1.5.18 yesterday | 20:45 |
| seb128 | fta: yes, I've noticed thanks, I'll upload that later | 20:46 |
| fta | pixman is in now | 20:46 |
| seb128 | fta: btw maybe you could send your pixman change to debian so they can use it and we can sync again? ;-) | 20:46 |
| seb128 | fta: I did the upload so I noticed ;-) | 20:47 |
| fta | oh :) | 20:47 |
| fta | or i can do a merge | 20:47 |
| seb128 | you can but still would be nice to get them applying your change rather than having to keep ubuntu specific changes | 20:48 |
| fta | yep, so feel free to send them. | 20:49 |
| seb128 | ok | 20:49 |
| seb128 | will do after having packaged GNOME 2.22.1, etc | 20:49 |
| seb128 | brb | 20:49 |
| seb128 | re | 21:22 |
| seb128 | mvo: around? | 21:22 |
| mvo | seb128: yes, but not for long | 21:23 |
| seb128 | mvo: your compiz update doesn't work for me | 21:23 |
| mvo | ohhh | 21:23 |
| seb128 | I get stucked on workspace 1 now | 21:23 |
| mvo | tell me mor e please | 21:23 |
| seb128 | the workspace switcher applet still has the grib | 21:23 |
| seb128 | but neither the keybindings nor dnd success to switch workspace | 21:23 |
| seb128 | it's worth noting that compiz and compiz-fusion-plugin-main have not been updated | 21:24 |
| seb128 | /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: no 'core' plugin with ABI version '20080214' loaded | 21:24 |
| seb128 | /usr/bin/compiz.real (imgjpeg) - Error: InitObject failed | 21:25 |
| seb128 | /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: Couldn't activate plugin 'imgjpeg' | 21:25 |
| seb128 | /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: no 'core' plugin with ABI version '20080214' loaded | 21:25 |
| seb128 | /usr/bin/compiz.real (text) - Error: InitObject failed | 21:25 |
| seb128 | /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: Couldn't activate plugin 'text' | 21:25 |
| seb128 | /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: no 'core' plugin with ABI version '20080214' loaded | 21:25 |
| seb128 | mvo: etc in .xsession-errors | 21:25 |
| mvo | seb128: what did you do? a dist-upgrade and that lead to compiz and compiz-fusion-plugins-main being held back? | 21:26 |
| seb128 | mvo: no, I use your update-manager thing ;-) | 21:26 |
| mvo | crap :P | 21:26 |
| mvo | sorry SCNR | 21:26 |
| seb128 | and I can't use the dist-upgrade mode since it refuses to install non authentificated packages and close | 21:27 |
| mvo | yeah, I guess that explains the trouble | 21:27 |
| seb128 | yeah | 21:27 |
| seb128 | still point a lack of Breaks somewhere | 21:27 |
| mvo | could you please check with apt-get dist-upgrade what it would do in upgrade mode ? | 21:27 |
| mvo | agreed | 21:27 |
| seb128 | Calculating upgrade... Done | 21:28 |
| seb128 | The following packages will be REMOVED: | 21:28 |
| seb128 | compiz-fusion-plugins-main-dbgsym | 21:28 |
| seb128 | The following packages will be upgraded: | 21:28 |
| seb128 | compiz compiz-fusion-plugins-main | 21:28 |
| seb128 | doing it now | 21:28 |
| seb128 | I just wanted to point the partial upgrade issue thing | 21:28 |
| mvo | aha! | 21:28 |
| mvo | thanks | 21:28 |
| seb128 | brb | 21:29 |
| seb128 | mvo: not better :-( | 21:30 |
| === walters_ is now known as walters | ||
| seb128 | but it might be that the plugin loading issue kicked them out of the config | 21:30 |
| seb128 | mvo: should I reset /apps/compiz to try? | 21:30 |
| mvo | meh :( | 21:30 |
| mvo | yeah, or just fire up ccsm | 21:31 |
| mvo | that is not encouraging | 21:31 |
| mvo | same error with core too? | 21:31 |
| seb128 | no, no error now | 21:31 |
| seb128 | just no workspace switching | 21:31 |
| seb128 | mvo: ok, that was it | 21:32 |
| seb128 | the plugins had been dropped from my profile apparently | 21:32 |
| seb128 | back to normal after resetting the config | 21:33 |
| mvo | seb128: ok, thanks for testing. not that good | 21:36 |
| seb128 | mvo: you are welcome | 21:36 |
| seb128 | mvo: just make sure that you block partial upgrades and that should be alright ;-) | 21:37 |
| mvo | :) | 21:37 |
| === DrPepperKid is now known as MacSlow | ||
| === pmf__ is now known as ember | ||
| ember | seb128 can i do file-roller? | 23:47 |
| seb128 | ember: no, I'm doing it, I've gio changes to use | 23:48 |
| seb128 | I did upload your piding update | 23:50 |
| ember | thanks on pidgin upload | 23:55 |
| seb128_ | you are welcome | 23:55 |
| ember | is anything on .1 that i can do? | 23:56 |
| seb128_ | ember: not right know, the updates are either done or waiting for a sync on debian or have somebody doing those usually | 23:57 |
| seb128_ | s/know/now | 23:57 |
| ember | okidoki | 23:57 |
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