=== asac_ is now known as asac [07:13] bonjour [08:14] good morning [08:15] hello dholbach [08:15] * dholbach hugs seb128 [08:15] * seb128 hugs dholbach back [09:26] hi ... would gdk_window_lookup(0) give me a valid window? root window? [09:34] seb128: I was thinking about including the clearlooks gtkrc as well since the engine is installed already by default, what do you think? [09:34] kwwii: did you get requests for it? should be alright [09:34] asac: hey, no idea about this one, better to try [09:35] moring everyone [09:35] seb128: ok [09:37] seb128: yes, quite a few people asked of it [09:37] asac: if you need the root window id, better use GDK_ROOT_WINDOW() [09:37] kwwii: the gtkrc takes no space, add it again [09:37] at the same time I hae an small update for the murrine theme [09:38] lut huats [09:38] execellent, thanks...I'll ping you in a bit [09:38] mvo: is Xid 0 root window? [09:38] thats what i ask ;) [09:38] lut seb128 [09:39] asac: aha :) sorry, I don't know. xprop -id 0 gives me a error here, xprop -root is fine, my guess is no [09:39] ok thanks ... thats what i expected. [10:04] pochu: want to do some gnome updates? ;-) seahorse? [10:05] * mvo is off for some minutes to switch network [10:07] seb128: yes, and vinagre and vino when they are released ;) [10:07] I'll sync gnome-keyring when it's available on the mirrors [10:07] pochu: there is also gnome-games to do if you are interested [10:08] seb128: not that one this time... I need to do things for the uni [10:09] pochu: alright, just asking in case you were looking for updates to do ;-) [11:02] seb128: heh, so the epiphany 1st april mail wasn't a joke ;) what are you going to do for ubuntu? keep 2.22 for a long time, move it to universe or get webkit to main? [11:04] hi slomo [11:04] slomo: for hardy no change, the webkit backend is not really good yet in 2.22 [11:04] yeah, i mean after hardy of course :) [11:04] hi bhale [11:04] if they get their way they are going to replace gtkhtml with webkit [11:04] slomo: next cycle will likely just package the webkit variant as upstream is doing [11:05] either promote webkit or demote epiphany-browser [11:05] I think it will be ok for use then - webkit epiphany is already pretty usable [11:05] ok, sounds good [11:05] I only have one bug [11:05] it depends on whetever yelp, etc are switched to webkit [11:05] bhale: are plugins working good already? [11:05] bhale: can you use plugins now? [11:06] slomo: eh, ive never used plugins [11:06] the bug is clicking links with a target don't work [11:14] seb128: seahorse looks good, and slomo has already updated it in pkg-gnome too http://emilio.pozuelo.org/~deb/seahorse_2.22.1-0ubuntu1.dsc [11:14] seahorse is only a trivial cleanup change [11:52] mvo gone? [11:53] ah [11:53] ok [11:53] :) [12:05] slomo: do we want the new gstreamer core/base in hardy? [12:13] mvo: do you have glatzors cell phone? [12:13] number ;) [12:13] eh? [12:13] asac: I think I have his regular number, but ... what do you need it for? [13:08] pochu: if you love version numbers... :) we already have the two patches [13:09] ah, so the updates are kind of useless for us... *nevermind* :) [13:09] although base is a sync, so could update it [13:09] s/could/we could/ [13:14] ok, I changed the wikiTODO again [13:14] we have now a table listing the things claimed as it used to have [13:14] moin all [13:15] and the list is only used to list usual updaters so you know if you should contact somebody before starting on an update [13:15] hey fernando [13:15] hey seb128 [13:43] asac: http://download.gnome.org/sources/epiphany/2.22/epiphany-2.22.1.tar.gz, wants to do the update? [13:44] salut seb128! [13:44] hey pedro_! [13:44] servus asac [13:45] glatzor: hey ;) [13:45] glatzor: got my SMS ? [13:46] asac, you are already approved :) [13:46] seb128: ill after sorting out the langpacks ;) ... or if i need a break from that :) [13:46] * asac hugs glatzor [13:46] glatzor: sorry for the SMS, btw [13:46] asac: ok, thanks [13:47] glatzor: so how can i approve? [13:47] asac, no problem. I was just a little bit surprised. [13:47] do i just need to select the radio button next to the suggestion? [13:47] was my first ubuntu related sms :) [13:47] like for https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/xulrunner-1.9/+pots/xulrunner/de/+translate?batch=10&show=untranslated [13:49] glatzor: select the radio and then "save & continue" ? [13:51] asac, what is the problem at all? [13:51] asac, an import problem? [13:51] glatzor: we have a bunch of translations that have suggestoins that need to be improved (due to deficiency of our import script) [13:51] glatzor: so basically its going over the list and approving the suggestion [13:51] some might have two ... but its obvious which is the right one [13:52] glatzor: i am trying thta now ;) (e.g. selecting the radio next to the suggestion and pushing "save & continue" [13:52] asac, you just have to pay attention to brain split problems in the future [13:53] glatzor: huh? [13:53] asac, that is ok. you want to do this for all languages? or only the "core" languages? [13:53] glatzor: personally i will only do german and hope for translator teams to do that for the other [13:53] asac, if you overwrite/confirm a translation in launchpad you won't get any upstream changes later [13:54] as sometimes there are two suggestions and i have no idea about chinese [13:54] seb128, pitti: I implemented your suggestions for 5-a-day [13:54] glatzor: ok. you say that new translation imports will not overwrite those tha i now approve? [13:55] asac, afaik right. [13:55] i think thats ok. given that we are at early stage we might be able to reset things once the import works perfect (me hides from translators) [13:55] but in order to get the right translation now i need to approve them ;) [13:55] and i want to test whats missing when i have german fully translated [13:56] dholbach: which one? [13:57] seb128: namespacing stuff :) [13:57] it's 5-a-day now (the old stuff still works via symlinks) [13:57] ah ;-) [13:57] glatzor: i guess new imports will make new suggestions pop up? [13:57] asac, right [13:58] glatzor: what happens to the suggestions i am not using? [13:58] do i need to remove them manually for them to disappear? [13:58] asac, they will be sitting there until the end of time :) [13:58] or will they be removed because i chose one out of two? [13:58] glatzor: no chance to deny them? [13:58] asac, I am not aware of such a feature [13:59] thats interesting ... doesn't there accumulate cruft over time= [13:59] ? [13:59] there must be something ;) .. ill ask carlos [14:00] dholbach: 5aday> thanks! *hug* [14:01] * dholbach hugs seb128 and pitti [14:01] * seb128 hugs dholbach and pitti [14:01] oh, pitti is there! [14:01] * Hobbsee hugs dholbach and pitti and seb128 [14:02] * seb128 hugs Hobbsee [14:02] :) [14:02] * dholbach hugs hobbsee back [14:03] seb128: 5-a-day now has bash completion too and it only commits stuff to the remote branch if you haven't committed anything in the last 60 minutes - that should make it a bit quicker and avoid locks [14:06] cool [14:07] hey seb128 [14:07] seb128: yeah, woke up very early (6:30) and did my mail and blogged [14:08] pitti: had a nice trip to go there? [14:08] seb128: the flight here was pretty hectic, but yesterday was nice (see blog) [14:09] I didn't know that you have a blog, looking ;-) [14:58] seb128: btw, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek/Prep [14:59] seb128: feel free to put a desktop topic on the list, or just let me know and I can do it [15:00] jcastro: ok, will have a look to that, thanks [15:39] seb128: if you (or someone else) have a moment, I would appreciate if you could test if compiz from "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/mvo/ubuntu hardy main" work well for you [15:39] ok [15:40] mvo: btw, works fine for me :) [15:40] did anything change with the nautilus/nautilus-cd-burner/libeel2-2 breaks? [15:40] Amaranth: cool, thanks .:) [15:40] but i can't test any of the specific things it was supposed to make better right now [15:42] mvo: I did rebase nautilus on the debian version, I might have dropped a change or something, why? [15:42] mvo: any issue? [15:42] seb128: yeah, lts upgrades can not be calculated currently, not sure what the issue is exactly yet [15:43] but it might be some inconsitency in the archive [15:43] some bits build some not, I haven't really looked into it yet [15:44] ok [15:45] yeah, looks like nautilus-cd-burner is not yet publushed [15:46] but the libeel2-2 breaks on (<= 2.20.0-1) [15:46] eh, no [15:46] * mvo scratches his head [15:49] great, we can't just sync vinagre this time [15:49] unless we merge cdbs, but I doubt we will do it this late in the cycle, pitti? [15:49] pochu: not a good idea no [15:50] well, there's no changes needed so it's an easy one [15:50] pbuilder-satisfydepends-dummy: Depends: ggzd (>= 0.0.14) which is a virtual package. [15:50] mvo: could you sponsor bug #213357? [15:50] Launchpad bug 213357 in gnome-terminal "Please sponsor gnome-terminal 2.22.1 (main) into Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/213357 [15:50] i'm getting this on gnome-games [15:51] ember: slomo added a builddepends on ggzd in debian [15:52] i know, i added it to gnome-games too [15:52] did the upstream configure changed or something? [15:53] pochu: no, toolchain changes are not appropriate now [15:54] seb128: ok, looks like gnome-control-center is not yet published but libgnome-desktop-2 breaks on it [15:54] transient hopefully [15:54] seb128 http://paste.ubuntu.com/6562/ [15:54] mvo: yes, I've uploaded a g-c-c rebuild one hour ago or so [15:54] ok [15:55] ember: the new builddepends doesn't seem required then, not sure why it has been added there [15:55] mvo: can you do the sponsoring? just trying to split GNOME 2.22.1 sponsoring tasks ;-) [15:56] pochu: what do you need from the new version? [15:56] seb128 it ftbs without ggzd [15:57] ember: no idea about the issue [15:59] pitti: not really needed... Vinagre in Debian build-depends on it now to get dh_icons called, which is in gnome.mk now, but I can leave it in rules and postpone the sync to Intrepid [16:00] pochu: ubuntu's cdbs has done that for ages, so it should be good [16:00] seb128, ember: checking out the gnome-terminal update now [16:00] pitti: oh, nice [16:02] ggzd have too many changes upstream to merge it to ubuntu humpfh [16:08] ember: just builddepends on whatever has the requires files rather than on ggzd if that's doesn't work correctly [16:13] seb128: err, I thought I was here when I requested you the sync/sponsorship :) [16:13] pochu: that's alright ;-) [16:23] pochu: uploaded [16:59] seb when you have time check pidgin, is mostly bugfix [16:59] yeah, will do that later today [17:00] thanks === fernando_ is now known as fernando [19:28] slomo: can I have sponsoring for this? :) http://emilio.pozuelo.org/~deb/liferea.debdiff [19:28] slomo: it backports two patches from SVN, fixing 2 crashes [19:29] one I could reproduce it and it's fixed. The other one I couldn't, but jwendell could and has confirmed it fixes it [19:30] ok [19:52] slomo: thank you :) [20:45] seb128, i've posted a debdiff of the new cairo 1.5.18 yesterday [20:46] fta: yes, I've noticed thanks, I'll upload that later [20:46] pixman is in now [20:46] fta: btw maybe you could send your pixman change to debian so they can use it and we can sync again? ;-) [20:47] fta: I did the upload so I noticed ;-) [20:47] oh :) [20:47] or i can do a merge [20:48] you can but still would be nice to get them applying your change rather than having to keep ubuntu specific changes [20:49] yep, so feel free to send them. [20:49] ok [20:49] will do after having packaged GNOME 2.22.1, etc [20:49] brb [21:22] re [21:22] mvo: around? [21:23] seb128: yes, but not for long [21:23] mvo: your compiz update doesn't work for me [21:23] ohhh [21:23] I get stucked on workspace 1 now [21:23] tell me mor e please [21:23] the workspace switcher applet still has the grib [21:23] but neither the keybindings nor dnd success to switch workspace [21:24] it's worth noting that compiz and compiz-fusion-plugin-main have not been updated [21:24] /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: no 'core' plugin with ABI version '20080214' loaded [21:25] /usr/bin/compiz.real (imgjpeg) - Error: InitObject failed [21:25] /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: Couldn't activate plugin 'imgjpeg' [21:25] /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: no 'core' plugin with ABI version '20080214' loaded [21:25] /usr/bin/compiz.real (text) - Error: InitObject failed [21:25] /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: Couldn't activate plugin 'text' [21:25] /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: no 'core' plugin with ABI version '20080214' loaded [21:25] mvo: etc in .xsession-errors [21:26] seb128: what did you do? a dist-upgrade and that lead to compiz and compiz-fusion-plugins-main being held back? [21:26] mvo: no, I use your update-manager thing ;-) [21:26] crap :P [21:26] sorry SCNR [21:27] and I can't use the dist-upgrade mode since it refuses to install non authentificated packages and close [21:27] yeah, I guess that explains the trouble [21:27] yeah [21:27] still point a lack of Breaks somewhere [21:27] could you please check with apt-get dist-upgrade what it would do in upgrade mode ? [21:27] agreed [21:28] Calculating upgrade... Done [21:28] The following packages will be REMOVED: [21:28] compiz-fusion-plugins-main-dbgsym [21:28] The following packages will be upgraded: [21:28] compiz compiz-fusion-plugins-main [21:28] doing it now [21:28] I just wanted to point the partial upgrade issue thing [21:28] aha! [21:28] thanks [21:29] brb [21:30] mvo: not better :-( === walters_ is now known as walters [21:30] but it might be that the plugin loading issue kicked them out of the config [21:30] mvo: should I reset /apps/compiz to try? [21:30] meh :( [21:31] yeah, or just fire up ccsm [21:31] that is not encouraging [21:31] same error with core too? [21:31] no, no error now [21:31] just no workspace switching [21:32] mvo: ok, that was it [21:32] the plugins had been dropped from my profile apparently [21:33] back to normal after resetting the config [21:36] seb128: ok, thanks for testing. not that good [21:36] mvo: you are welcome [21:37] mvo: just make sure that you block partial upgrades and that should be alright ;-) [21:37] :) === DrPepperKid is now known as MacSlow === pmf__ is now known as ember [23:47] seb128 can i do file-roller? [23:48] ember: no, I'm doing it, I've gio changes to use [23:50] I did upload your piding update [23:55] thanks on pidgin upload [23:55] you are welcome [23:56] is anything on .1 that i can do? [23:57] ember: not right know, the updates are either done or waiting for a sync on debian or have somebody doing those usually [23:57] s/know/now [23:57] okidoki