[01:32] <faulkes-> Disk /dev/sdd: 1496.9 GB, 1496999264256 bytes
[01:32]  * faulkes- whee's
[01:33] <faulkes-> iscsi box is now up
[04:47] <ksclarke> anyone know why ubuntu would pause on boot? it doesn't give me the login prompt until after I have hit a key on the keyboard
[04:52] <netrat> hello i'm running ubuntu server 7.10 and i'm having some trouble with IET, iscsi enterprise target, hard freezing the server. no kernel panic or anything
[04:53] <netrat> my targets are LVM logical volumes
[04:54] <owh> netrat: The person working on iscsi is soren.
[04:55] <netrat> owh: okay, is he away now?
[04:55] <owh> netrat: soren never sleeps, but he may be napping :)
[04:55] <netrat> HAHA okay
[04:55] <owh> netrat: I suggest you leave your IRC window open and see what gives :)
[04:56] <netrat> owh: okay. i'll be waiting...
[05:02] <owh> netrat: Perhaps you should outline what you're doing and what issues you're having.
[05:07] <netrat> well like i mentioned the iscsi targets are LVM volumes. i have one target being exported to a Win XP machine running NTFS and another target for booting CentOS with etherboot. here is my ietd.conf file http://pastebin.com/m7c0a219b
[05:08] <netrat> the ubuntu server running IET will randomly lockup with iSCSI activity. i've tried upgrading to the latest 2.6.24.4 vanilla kernel, but that didn't help either
[05:10] <netrat> discussion groups for IET seem to be scarce
[05:18] <netrat> the server has been 100% stable before, memtest and a prime95 torture test all check out okay
[05:20] <owh> netrat: FYI, activity tends to pick-up here in about 5 hours.
[05:21] <netrat> owh okay, hopefully someone will be able to help. i really need my iSCS
[05:21] <netrat> iSCSI*
[06:09] <soren> netrat: Sorry, I haven't used iscsi at all on gutys.
[06:09] <soren> gutsy, I mean.
[06:12] <netrat> soren only 6.10?
[06:14] <soren> Er.. No, 8.04.
[06:16] <netrat> wait i'm confused, i'm running 6.10, you only have experience running IET on 8.04?
[06:22] <netrat> i'm using version 0.4.16 of iscsitarget
[06:28] <soren> I only started using iscsi on hardy, yes.
[06:29] <netrat> soren oh okay. support is hard to find for IET! no chatrooms on freenode or anything
[06:34] <owh> Hi soren, I'm responsible for sending netrat here. Any suggestions where else help might appear from?
[06:59] <soren> No clue. Sorry.
[07:00]  * soren wanders off for " a nap" :)
[07:32] <owh> Slacker :)
[07:32]  * owh gets ready to duck.
[07:32] <kgoetz> owh: arvo mat3
[07:32] <kgoetz> *mate
[07:33] <owh> Phone...
[07:41] <owh> Man o man, what a bunch of fwits on this planet.
[07:42] <owh> Just had a call from a client who's machine was working fine until this morning when a "friend" installed Office for them, now their Internet doesn't work.
[07:42] <owh> Not that any of you lot care :)
[07:43] <omnz0r> everyday life of a sysadmin :)
[07:44] <owh> omnz0r: Ah, but this particular client hasn't contacted me in three years, now they expect free support :)
[07:44] <owh> Or should that bt :(
[07:44] <kgoetz> owh: i'm at work too :p
[07:45] <owh> kgoetz: I work for myself, I'm *always* at work :p
[07:45] <kgoetz> owh: how are they still a client then?
[07:45] <owh> kgoetz: It's all in *their* mind.
[07:45] <kgoetz> owh: i'm trying to feel sorry for you - and i'm struggling
[07:46] <owh> kgoetz: Nah, no need for feeling sorry, you can just share my angst :)
[07:46] <kgoetz> owh: that i have no problem with ;)
[07:46] <owh> ROTFL
[07:46] <owh> Thanks, I needed a laugh.
[07:47] <kgoetz> hehe
[07:48]  * owh is having much more fun decoding 61 bytes of satellite tracker data :)
[07:50] <kgoetz> hehe
[09:06] <kraut> moin
[10:51] <izzy_> hello?
[10:51] <izzy_> anyone awake in here?
[10:52] <Jeeves_> YES!
[10:52]  * Jeeves_ :)
[10:52] <izzy_> anyone in here know how to do LVM partition
[10:52] <Jeeves_> Nope :)
[10:52] <izzy_> dang
[10:52] <izzy_> no one seems to know x.x
[10:53] <blue-frog> izzy_: what do you need?
[10:53] <izzy_> ok well im redoing the install of ubuntu 7.1 server edition
[10:53] <izzy_> i did manual partitioning
[10:54] <_ruben> 'morning' Jeeves_ ;)
[10:54] <izzy_> 300 gig hd   i made  logical volumes:  home root srv  swap  and var
[10:54] <izzy_> when i go to create it says
[10:54] <Jeeves_> hoi _ruben
[10:54] <_ruben> its 7.10 btw :) </nitpick>
[10:55] <izzy_> shows the partitioned disk  LVM VG system  lv root  8.6 GB linux device mapper  #1
[10:55] <izzy_> as soon as i click finish partitioning and write changes to disk
[10:55] <izzy_> red Screen   NO ROOT FILE SYSTEM is DEFINED
[10:56] <izzy_> x.x
[10:56] <izzy_> is it a error  am i just losing my mind lol
[10:56] <faulkes->  /root or /
[10:56] <izzy_> 3 hours
[10:56] <blue-frog> izzy_: first.. you have a /boot partition not lvm?
[10:56] <izzy_> i do have a boot
[10:56] <izzy_> its 100.0 mb
[10:56] <izzy_> first partition is /boot  100.0 mb  primary
[10:56] <_ruben> izzy_: did you tell the installer to use the root lv for / etc? or just created a lv called "root" and assumed it'd be used for / ?
[10:57] <blue-frog> izzy_: the lvm logical volume, you created them but did you assgin a mount point?
[10:57] <izzy_> i didnt tell the installer to use the root for anything
[10:57] <_ruben> then thats the problem
[10:57] <izzy_> i dont think i assigned the mount point  but it wont let me
[10:57] <blue-frog> izzy_: you need to do that for all your lv
[10:57] <_ruben> once you created the lv's, you need to tell the installer what to do with them
[10:57] <izzy_> i cant find away to access it to mount it or anything
[10:58] <_ruben> once you created the lv's .. the lv's should show up in the list of available partitions
[10:58] <izzy_> hmm
[10:58] <izzy_> from what i was told
[10:58] <izzy_> x.x
[10:58] <izzy_> i was to make 2 partitions
[10:58] <izzy_> both prime
[10:58] <izzy_> 2nd one was to be LVM
[10:59] <izzy_> and all my var swap srv root and home go in that
[10:59] <_ruben> so far so good
[10:59] <izzy_> wish i could take a screen shot and somehow upload it on to my site x.x or email n show ya whats going on
[11:00] <izzy_> the overview of currently configured partitions and moun points.  shows
[11:00] <izzy_> LVM VG system LV home 4.3 gb  linux device mapper
[11:00] <izzy_> #1 4.3 gb
[11:00] <Deeps> no camera phone?
[11:00] <izzy_> thats all  so it doesnt show mount points
[11:00] <Deeps> or webcam?
[11:00] <Deeps> or digicam?
[11:00] <izzy_> lol all those got then
[11:00] <izzy_> but lcd with a webcam ?
[11:00] <_ruben> izzy_: because you didnt specify one, it wont do that for you (it wouldnt know how)
[11:01] <izzy_> so how can i put the mount points in ?
[11:01] <_ruben> izzy_: select that lv line and hit enter
[11:01] <izzy_> i do it just flashes then goes back to the same screen the overview
[11:01] <_ruben> then perhaps the line underneath it .. dont recall exactly on top of my head
[11:01] <izzy_> ok that did something
[11:02] <izzy_> use as:        Do not use
[11:02] <blue-frog> it might be a bug. I remember having problems with LVM and ubuntu install
[11:02] <_ruben> select that line and hit enter
[11:02] <izzy_> ok
[11:02] <_ruben> blue-frog: nah, its just the debian installer being not very user frienldy ;)
[11:02] <izzy_> got ext 3 ext 2 and so on
[11:02] <_ruben> which fs to choose is up to you
[11:02] <_ruben> usualy one'd go for ext3
[11:02] <izzy_> for the boot i was using ext 2
[11:03] <izzy_> didnt need the journal
[11:03] <_ruben> thats a fairly common decision indeed
[11:03] <blue-frog> oh he's in yes ok
[11:03] <izzy_> ok so for like srv for ftp server i need to do that for all of then right
[11:03] <izzy_> ok so now it says  use as  ext2 file system  mount point use as root right?
[11:04] <_ruben> yeah, you need to do those steps for each lv you created
[11:04] <_ruben> if you selected the root lv yes, otherwise select the apropriate dir
[11:04] <izzy_> wow lol talk abouta nice installer x.x
[11:04] <_ruben> you mentioned lv home before, so i'd mount that under /home
[11:04] <izzy_> i reinstalled over 200 times this week
[11:04] <izzy_> cus of this
[11:04] <_ruben> izzy_: well .. its *is* marked as expert mode or smth similar
[11:05] <izzy_> lol ya
[11:05] <izzy_> i spent 40 dallors on a ubuntu server book
[11:05] <izzy_> cus i got tired of doing it over n over
[11:05] <izzy_> and page 20 goes over this but it leaves this all out
[11:05] <izzy_> doesnt tell u how to mount or anything
[11:05] <_ruben> crappy book that is then
[11:06] <izzy_> i was in the regular ubuntu irc room for days asking got 100 different answers lol
[11:06] <blue-frog> izzy_: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/views/linux/libraryview.jsp?topic_by=All+topics+and+related+products&sort_order=asc&lcl_sort_order=asc&search_by=lpi+exam+topic&search_flag=true&type_by=Tutorials&show_abstract=true&start_no=1&sort_by=Title&end_no=100&show_all=false&S_TACT=105AGX59&S_CMP=GR-LPI
[11:06] <blue-frog> will give you all the info you need to know
[11:06] <blue-frog> for free
[11:06] <blue-frog> you just need to register
[11:07] <izzy_> thanks
[11:07] <izzy_> on that site u mean ? or on here?
[11:08] <izzy_> so most people use ext2 for root as well as /boot
[11:08] <izzy_> ?
[11:10] <izzy_> do you suggest using ReiserFS  for /var / and home or no ?
[11:10] <_ruben> izzy_: i'd go for ext3 for all (and optionally ext2 for boot)
[11:11] <_ruben> xfs might be a more suited fs for large storage means
[11:11] <izzy_> ok  im planing to use this as FTP and webserver
[11:13] <_ruben> ext3 is probably good enough for that
[11:13] <izzy_> now can i ask ya this  ftp and webservers need a /srv partition correct?
[11:14] <_ruben> we have /srv on our suse based machines, not on ubuntu tho .. web resides in /var/www by default
[11:15] <izzy_> ok so i should make var bigger and just get rid of /srv then ?
[11:15] <izzy_> my var is only 6.4 gb and /srv is 275 gb
[11:17] <izzy_> sry for all the stupid questions ive been a windows user longer then linux just got in to openbsd about 8months ago so not firmilar with it all yet
[11:18] <_ruben> well, defaults are just what they are: defaults .. if you want your http/ftp stuff under /srv, then there's nothing that stop you from doing so ;) ... /srv is part of the FHS
[11:18] <_ruben> /srv/ Site-specific data which is served by the system. <== sounds appropriate enough for http/ftp files ;)
[11:19] <izzy_> i want to set it up the best way without having to reconfigure the system entirely
[11:19] <izzy_> which would you say is the best route?
[11:21] <_ruben> izzy_: thats a bit hard for me to say .. im currently in the progress of migrating from suse to ubuntu .. they both have different views (default settings and all) for certain stuff .. havent made up my mind on which routes to go yet
[11:22] <izzy_> ya i know that feeling all to well
[11:22] <izzy_> ive setup alot of windowsNT with linux suse stuff
[11:22] <izzy_> i just want to get away from windows im tired of then lol
[11:22] <_ruben> hehe
[11:23] <_ruben> hmm .. brb .. smth came up here ..
[11:23] <izzy_> ok
[11:29] <izzy_> well now its installing the base system so Everything must be right ^^ :)
[11:36] <_ruben> back
[11:37] <izzy_> me to
[11:37] <izzy_> wow
[11:37] <izzy_> network just crashed lol
[11:37] <izzy_> i hate linksys somedays x.x
[11:37] <_ruben> hehe
[11:37] <izzy_> it was funny cus it went to look for mirrors
[11:37] <izzy_> my gf runs upstairs shes playing xbox360 live and shes like xbox just froze
[11:38] <izzy_> i look over its looking for mirrors had to login to linksys router n release the ip and renew it
[11:38] <spiekey> soren: do you or have you ever used some M$ Exchange replacement with syncing mails with outlook clients?
[11:38] <izzy_> i have to do it every week atlease once
[11:38] <spiekey> OpenXchange or Group-E or something?
[11:38] <_ruben> izzy_: jikes
[11:38] <izzy_> lol
[11:39] <izzy_> only has happened since i went wifi
[11:39] <izzy_> no clue why
[11:39] <izzy_> now another question  upon installing  dns server and lamp server r the two i need for webserver and ftp correct?
[11:40] <_ruben> dns server isnt really required for running web/ftp .. kinda depends on your needs though
[11:41] <izzy_> i want to be able to see my webpage / site from across the globe anywhere outside the home network
[11:42] <izzy_> want to be able to load ftp from outside the house along with inside the home network
[11:43] <_ruben> dns server is only needed for when you want to host a nameserver for your (or other's) domain(s) .. which *usualy* isnt the case for home users
[11:43] <izzy_> my domain is a .com  so would i need dns or no?
[11:44] <_ruben> i doubt that, you'd know if you would ;)
[11:44] <izzy_> so all i need is lamp server and i should be ok ?
[11:45] <_ruben> lamp is what you need for serving html+php using apache .. ftp is a seperate install (no task for that (yet))
[11:47] <izzy_> ya im gonna run pure ftp on it  but my .com is like 80 html pages
[11:47] <izzy_> with some php
[11:48] <izzy_> i can always install the lamp server later lol :)
[11:49] <izzy_> well thanks ruben ^^ uve saved yet another new ubuntu user from sucide :)
[11:50] <_ruben> that bad eh? ;)
[11:50] <izzy_> i used ubuntu desktop to learn about it that was devastating lol
[11:51] <izzy_> it froze up  lost my mouse and keyboard alot of times locked up
[11:51] <_ruben> nasty
[11:51] <izzy_> ya than i learnt about ubuntu irc lol
[11:52] <izzy_> and realized it was impossible to find anyone in there at any time that wasnt super busy
[11:52] <izzy_> before that i was using Openbsd  which wasnt bad but drove me somewat crazy
[11:54] <izzy_> now i guess if everything works good ill change most of the laptops over to ubuntu lol
[11:54] <izzy_> i want to get out of windows b4 it consumes my soul again
[11:55] <_ruben> never liked the *bsd flavours .. played with freebsd ages ago .. just didnt feel "right" .. currently using windows on desktop and linux (ubuntu and some suse boxes i sttil need to migrate) on servers
[11:56] <izzy_> ya id like to do a nice setup here in the future i got total of 11 computers  1 gaming 1 ftp/website based   1 Ubuntu server 7.1 lol  and 3 window laptops for remotes in to corp. stuff and 1 for truck driving
[11:57] <izzy_> plus 4 that somehow got water damaged
[11:57] <izzy_> in the middle of a Dry spell in the summer  -.-
[11:57] <izzy_> though to tell u something i didnt know it rained mountain dew
[11:58] <izzy_> cusin couldnt sit down for 3 days after i got hit lol  old branch from a tree does wonders :)
[11:58] <izzy_> it*
[11:59] <_ruben> heheh
[11:59] <izzy_> so where are you from ruben ?
[11:59] <izzy_> if u dont mind me asking
[12:00] <_ruben> mountain dew .. heard a friend of mine talk about it the other day .. tho i think he had it imported or smth
[12:00] <_ruben> netherlands
[12:01] <izzy_> ahh
[12:02] <izzy_> moutain dew its a yellow pop
[12:02] <izzy_> infact have a bottle next to me
[12:02] <izzy_> made by pepsi  its yellow taste good lots of sugar and will wire u for atlease 3 hours lol
[12:02] <izzy_> its like a energy pop drink
[12:03] <_ruben> As of 2006, Mountain Dew was the fourth-best-selling carbonated soft drink in the United States, behind only Coca-Cola Classic, Pepsi-Cola, and Diet Coke.
[12:03] <_ruben> quite popular one ;)
[12:04] <izzy_> oh yes ;)
[12:04] <izzy_> pizza places sell the major quanities of it
[12:04] <izzy_> over 11 billion pizza places in the united states sells that product
[12:04] <izzy_> with over 3 billion new stores opening up each year selling it
[12:05] <omnz0r> tastes nothing like dew
[12:05] <izzy_> heh
[12:06] <izzy_> question  about root user
[12:06] <_ruben> !root
[12:06] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[12:07] <izzy_> ya
[12:07] <izzy_> but
[12:07] <izzy_> if will ask u for a password correct ?
[12:07] <izzy_> like if u do a sudo something
[12:07] <izzy_> it should ask for ur user password that ur log in to right?
[12:07] <_ruben> correct
[12:07] <_ruben> atleast, thats the default behaviour
[12:08] <izzy_> so if userone  pass is us1  and someone else is us3 and there using us1s account n they type in us3 it shouldnt go threw right?
[12:40] <_ruben> izzy_: eh? not following im afraid :p
[12:44] <izzy_> oh i was just wondering if two users have two different passwords lol
[12:45] <izzy_> they cant be interchanged and used on other users account without that users account password
[12:46] <_ruben> izzy_: sudo (by default) requires password of the user currently logged in, and doesnt care about any other users that might be present
[12:46] <izzy_> ya thats what i was trying to say
[12:46] <izzy_> but if i wanted to i could assign a password for sudo right?
[12:47] <_ruben> you *could* assign a password to the root user (in fact, i do that on my systems), but its not recommended ;)
[12:47] <_ruben> i do this because my local users dont have passwords
[12:47] <_ruben> ssh key authentication
[12:48] <izzy_> ahh
[12:48] <izzy_> i use to have ssh key auth for the other systems like windows using putty
[12:48] <izzy_> but i cant figure out how to do it on this
[12:49] <izzy_> cus it has no auth_key file
[12:54] <_ruben> private key goes in $HOME/.ssh/identify (default private key that is) .. and public keys goes in $HOME/.ssh/authorized_keys2
[12:55] <izzy_> oh
[12:55] <faulkes-> iirc isn't identity v1?
[12:56] <_ruben> faulkes-: hmm .. wouldnt know really .. would have to check
[12:56] <faulkes-> $HOME/.ssh/id_{rsa,rda}.pub
[12:56] <_ruben> you're right
[12:57] <_ruben> our use of identity probably predates the use of ssh2 ;)
[12:57] <izzy_> heh
[12:57]  * _ruben adds another thing to his todo list .. *sigh*
[12:58] <_ruben> damn thing only increases
[12:58] <izzy_> lol
[12:58] <izzy_> welcome to Life ^^
[12:58] <_ruben> yeah
[12:58] <_ruben> i get a fair ammount of stuff on my todo list done, except that i add things to it much faster :p
[12:58] <izzy_> lol
[12:59] <izzy_> so what kind of servers do u run ruben?
[13:00] <_ruben> infrastructure mostly: firewalls, loadbalancers, mailservers, monitoring .. and at home: fileservers
[13:00] <faulkes-> yeah, the entire todo list seems to grow daily vs. the stuff I knock off it
[13:00] <_ruben> faulkes-: sucks eh? ;)
[13:01] <izzy_> lol i just want a simplified
[13:01] <izzy_> server that can handle ftp from any computer
[13:01] <izzy_> and ftp from this computer to the server in html format to appear on my web site
[13:01] <izzy_> ^^ thats all i ask lol
[13:01] <izzy_> but the list keeps growing x.x
[13:02] <faulkes-> ruben: eh, not such a bad thing, I get to play with nice gear
[13:02] <faulkes-> and drink alot
[13:02] <_ruben> faulkes-: im not much of a drinker, but do get to play with nicer gear by the day
[13:02] <_ruben> faulkes-: kinda like you i'll be getting a nice san to play with in a while :)
[13:03] <izzy_> i cant imagine the pain in the head it must be to setup a mail server
[13:04] <_ruben> izzy_: to do it right surely requires some effort ;)
[13:04] <izzy_> yup agreed there
[13:04] <izzy_> somedays i miss windows lol
[13:06] <izzy_> so if i want to ping oh i dont know google.com to be sure i got a good ping how do i type it in so it doesnt ping it 1000 times ?
[13:08] <faulkes-> ruben: speaking of which, I set it for testing yesterday
[13:08] <faulkes->  /dev/sdb1             1.8T  196M  1.7T   1% /data
[13:08] <faulkes-> one of the LV's ;)
[13:09] <faulkes-> izzy: I would suggest reading the ping man page, which has an explicit option for the count
[13:11] <izzy_> i did once lol
[13:11] <izzy_> and it became bad
[13:11]  * _ruben whispers: -c
[13:11] <izzy_> it pinged 10000 times b4 it stoped
[13:11] <_ruben> it pings until you stop it
[13:12] <_ruben> it shouldnt stop at 10000 unless you told it so
[13:12] <_ruben> faulkes-: i read smth about that in my backscroll the other day :)
[13:12] <izzy_> i just typed in ping www.google.com lol
[13:12] <_ruben> faulkes-: guess 'the other day' was today then :p
[13:13] <faulkes-> I'm glad it was a relatively trivial setup once I got networking done
[13:14] <izzy_> 3 packets transmitted 3 rec time 1998ms thats along time isnt it o.o
[13:14]  * faulkes- notes that dell, dell docs and former consultants all need to be taken out and shot
[13:15] <_ruben> 99% of our stuff is dell ;)
[13:15] <faulkes-> wait till I get my hands on that label maker, HQ is gonna be less than pleased at the cartridge costs
[13:15] <_ruben> desktop/server wise that is
[13:16] <Jeeves_> !dell--
[13:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dell-- - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:16] <faulkes-> don't get me wrong, love my dell's
[13:16] <_ruben> havent had much trouble with dell so far
[13:16] <faulkes-> the docs on the gear we have from dell are not as, shall we say, current as they should be
[13:17] <faulkes-> and then of course add in the rebranded cisco-lite it's almost IOS but not quite switches
[13:17] <_ruben> we ran on homebrew hardware for years .. then had a few hp server .. but for some reason shortly after that the decision was made (by upper management) that everything would be dell from then on
[13:17] <faulkes-> simplifies infrastructure to a point
[13:18] <faulkes-> but networking gear should come from a networking company ;)
[13:18] <_ruben> :)
[13:19] <izzy_> well ruben ^^ :) thanks for the help tonight im sure ill see you on later this afternoon for me its time to crash the sun is coming up and im a nite walker lol
[13:19] <_ruben> faulkes-: which san did you happen to get your hands on btw?
[13:19] <faulkes-> promise vtrak m500i
[13:19] <faulkes-> is what it turned out to be
[13:19] <_ruben> izzy_: i'll be here for another 2 hrs or so and then i'll head home :)
[13:19] <faulkes-> I was initially told it was "only low end"
[13:20] <faulkes-> and well, ok, it's not exactly a netapp
[13:20] <faulkes-> but still, it's 6.5TB that's been sitting around for a good year unused
[13:20] <izzy_> ill be sleeping for atlease 8 to 9 hours lol i usally wake up in 6 hours from now
[13:20] <izzy_> ill take a 1.0 TB from anyone that offers it ;) :D
[13:20] <_ruben> i'll be playing with a dell/equallogic box .. 14 sas disks in raid5/raid10/raid50
[13:21]  * faulkes- nods
[13:21] <izzy_> 300 gb >.>
[13:21] <faulkes-> iirc this has 15 disks @ 456gb each
[13:21] <_ruben> 456? not 400?
[13:21] <faulkes-> apparently or so it reports
[13:22] <izzy_> nite ruben and faulkes ^^ take care
[13:22] <_ruben> izzy_: i got 2 machines at home that are both around 1TB each ;)
[13:22] <_ruben> izzy_: g'nite
[13:22] <faulkes-> I'm not going to argue with it about a measly 50gb ;)
[13:22] <izzy_> thanks for the help ruben ^^
[13:22] <izzy_> anyone that wants to send me 1 tb :-D
[13:22] <izzy_> :d
[13:22] <_ruben> hehe
[13:22] <izzy_> ill gladly give my address lol
[13:22] <_ruben> disks are cheap these days
[13:23] <izzy_> i now i seen a western digital on new egg for
[13:23] <_ruben> 750GB for aprox 100 euro these days
[13:23] <faulkes-> sorry, we already have plans for it to be a our torren^H^H^H database server
[13:23] <izzy_> 200 bucks for 1tb
[13:23] <faulkes-> s/server/storage
[13:23] <faulkes-> disk is cheap
[13:23] <_ruben> sata that is, sas is still kinda pricey
[13:23] <izzy_> this 300 i got is sata
[13:24] <faulkes-> now I just need all the extra hba's to arrive for the blades
[13:24] <faulkes-> although I am just using open-iscsi right now
[13:24] <_ruben> hba arent all that spectacular from what i've heard
[13:24] <faulkes-> probably continue to use open-iscsi as well
[13:24] <faulkes-> I'll see what the tcp off-loading can do for perf. but otherwise, unless it's a huge difference
[13:24] <_ruben> if your machine is powerfull enough and has enough spare cpu cycles, software initiator will outperform a hba
[13:25] <faulkes-> heh, yeah, I don't think cpu usage is an issue for these machines
[13:25] <_ruben> tcp offloading is smth i plan to look into .. dont think i have any hardware which supports that yet tho
[13:25] <faulkes-> dual, dual core 3.0ghz xeon's
[13:25] <izzy_> Dam
[13:25] <izzy_> i was just ready to hit the hay
[13:25] <izzy_> x.x
[13:25] <izzy_> phone rang
[13:25] <izzy_> grr
[13:26] <_ruben> cant wait go play with the new server .. dual quad-core with 32GB ram .. 6x300GB sas .. and then the nas hooked up to it as a bonus :p
[13:27] <faulkes-> that'll be nice
[13:27] <faulkes-> we're going to need to upgrade the ram in these things sometime soon for what we have planned
[13:27] <faulkes-> on 4gb a piece right now
[13:27] <faulkes-> s/on/only
[13:31] <_ruben> the ram came in the other day .. tho instead of 8 4GB modules, they shipped 8 2x2GB modules .. only 8 slots .. so sent it back
[13:34] <_ruben> dell blades? we're looking into those for the slightly longer term (as a base of virtualization, as is the dual quad-core i'll be playing with)
[13:37]  * faulkes- nods
[13:37] <faulkes-> 1955's right now
[13:37] <faulkes-> not bad
[13:39] <_ruben> 1955 .. i think thats what we (me and my manager) were looking at as well
[13:39] <_ruben> we currently use 860's as web servers and 2850/2950 for db
[13:39] <_ruben> and an occasional 1950
[13:40] <izzy_> nite catch ya all later ^^
[13:40] <_ruben> the dual quad-core is a 2950 i think
[13:40] <_ruben> izzy_: nite ;)
[15:41] <elventear> Hello, I am trying to set up a server where the OS disks are on RAID 1 and whenever one of the disks fail, the server should be able to still boot. I've successfully setup everything except the last part. Whenever I yank out one of the drives from the server the system will fail upon reaching initramfs. I think the problem lies in the fact that the raid will fail to assemble if one of the drives is missing and requires using --run
[17:24] <elventear> I just needed to edit /etc/udev/rules.d/85-mdadm.rules and remove the '--no-degraded' option to make this work. This was quite obscure, I had been looking a solution at least for the past 3 days.
[17:25] <elventear> And update initramfs
[17:25] <DBAmethyst> good to hear there elventear
[17:41] <_ruben> hmm .. that'd be an odd "feature" .. not being able to boot a degraded array
[17:43] <faulkes-> actually, that's been something plaguing raid1 for quite some time
[17:43]  * faulkes- has noted it more than a number of times on the forums
[17:44] <ScottK> It's by design so that you don't accidentally boot a damaged array and lose data.
[17:44] <ScottK> I'm not saying it's a good design, but it's not by accident.
[17:45] <faulkes-> noted
[17:54] <_ruben> hmm .. sounds fair enough, more or less ;)
[17:54] <_ruben> must admit its a tricky situation at best indeed
[20:52] <elventear> Hello. Is it possible to configure Ubuntu to treat RAID devices as partitionables from boot?
[21:09] <N6REJ> afternoon folks... I'm trying to setup a 7.1 server on my LAN.  it will be used for just about everything, including LOCAL only mail.  Its asking for the fqdn.. I have xp, *nix, and OSx systems on this networks so I need something that is network friendly.
[21:10] <N6REJ> the systems name is Annabelle
[21:10] <N6REJ> when I say "local" mail, I mean lan only mail.  I should clarify that.
[21:11] <N6REJ> anyone know the best way to do this?
[21:20] <pr0le> N6REJ: http://www.redhat.com/magazine/025nov06/features/dns/
[21:20] <pr0le> you'll need to adjust for ubuntu of course, but it works well
[21:20] <N6REJ> pr0le: ty
[21:20] <pr0le> I think it should tell you about how to set up a domain like 'myhome.lan'
[21:21] <pr0le> part 2: http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2006/12/15/dns/
[21:21] <N6REJ> yeah.. i c.. ok... I told the mail server just "annabelle" but it should be able to be changed if it needs it.
[21:34] <N6REJ> !server
[21:34] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[21:44] <N6REJ> !vnc
[21:44] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[21:45] <N6REJ> !FreeNX
[21:45] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[21:45] <soren> N6REJ: Er... What are you doing? :)
[21:46] <N6REJ> hiya soren!! long time no see
[21:46] <N6REJ> i'm hooking up a lan server... but its not going to have an accessible con, so i'm looking at how I can vkvm it
[21:46] <soren> Yeah, I mean: What's up with doing all the !vnc, !freenx etc. stuff?
[21:46] <N6REJ> I know I can ssh in, but there are times I prefer the desktop
[21:47] <N6REJ> oh, looking at the suggestions for software to use.. .here.. tell soren about !FreeNX
[21:47] <N6REJ> !FreeNX > Soren
[21:47] <soren> I know about freenx.
[21:47] <N6REJ> its been ages... did you get the beep?
[21:47] <N6REJ> I don't :D
[21:47] <soren> the beep?
[21:48] <N6REJ> you got a suggestion on which protocol to use?
[21:48]  * N6REJ nm its not important :D  I was just querying the bot for suggestions
[21:48] <soren> Er... what?
[21:48] <soren> What do you mean "beep"?
[21:49] <N6REJ> oh, when I get a directed response it "beeps" me.
[21:49] <N6REJ> soren like that
[21:49] <soren> Ah.
[21:49] <soren> I'm on the server team. I don't do beeps. :)
[21:49] <N6REJ> its been ions since I setup an ubuntu server
[21:49] <N6REJ> hahahah
[21:49] <N6REJ> kk
[21:50] <N6REJ> well basically what I want is a simple lan server, accessible from the various platforms that I have in the house, and be able to access the "desktop" if I want to, as a kvm would
[21:50] <N6REJ> I'll primarily use ssh but I'd like the option.
[21:50] <N6REJ> KISS is very important
[21:51] <N6REJ> There used to be step-by-step on this.
[21:52] <N6REJ> soren: I noticed "synergy" also.. I have no idea which is best.
[21:53] <N6REJ> I think my biggest problem is going to be that all the platforms are VERY differnt.. x32, x64, OSX 32, OSX 64, *Nix 32, *Nix 64 LOL
[21:56] <N6REJ> soren: you got any recommendations?
[21:57] <soren> Not really. I just use ssh.
[21:57] <N6REJ> soren: ok, well i'll try freenx, worst it can do is not work as I expect :D
[21:57] <N6REJ> soren: oh I do have one quick question if you will please
[21:58] <N6REJ> I named my server "annabelle" its going to serve mail for the LAN only... the mail will never come to/from the net.  what do I use for a fqdn if anything other then "Annabelle"?
[21:59] <faulkes-> soren: we still in need of 8.04 iscsi testing?
[22:05] <good_dana> N6REJ: annabelle.domain.local
[22:05] <N6REJ> good_dana: ok, what do I change since i've already completed the installation?
[22:05] <N6REJ> I need to tell apache, and the mail server
[22:05] <N6REJ> good_dana: i checked all the boxes when I installed.
[22:06] <good_dana> N6REJ: i'm not sure, i dont have much experience configuring those, i just know what your fqdn should be
[22:06] <N6REJ> good_dana: good enough.. tyvm
[22:07] <N6REJ> good_dana: mails the least important service on that server
[22:15] <kirkland> any one here impacted by Bug #155947 ?
[22:15] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 155947 in libnss-ldap "ldap config  causes Ubuntu to hang at a reboot" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/155947
[22:16] <nawty> guys, anyone know why daemontools-installer isn't available in hardy?
[22:23] <nawty> ah, svtools.
[22:25] <nawty> or not.
[22:56] <nawty_> oh, i hate these fools
[22:56] <nawty_> they reset the wireless randomly
[22:57] <nawty_> cause obviously, that's going to solve the connection problems, right? :P
[23:17] <mindframe-> nawty_: if in doubt, pres butan
[23:20] <nawty_> yeah, that's about right.
[23:42] <izzy_> _ruben: you still on?