| ubotu | New bug: #207457 in ubuntu "[Hardy] Spanish keyboad layout won't work (dup-of: 196277)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/207457 | 02:10 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #213171 in xorg (main) "Unable to install with GUI on Fujitsu Lifebook C7651" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/213171 | 03:40 |
| ubotu | New bug: #77226 in wacom-tools (main) "Wacom Mouse Scroll Wheel is Upside-Down" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77226 | 03:56 |
| ubotu | New bug: #213191 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "855GME system freezes when switching to external monitor" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/213191 | 04:56 |
| ubotu | New bug: #212996 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "[hardy] fglrx breaks hibernate" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/212996 | 05:58 |
| ubotu | New bug: #213212 in xserver-xorg-video-amd (main) "freeze with lots of usb events" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/213212 | 07:05 |
| ubotu | New bug: #213262 in mesa (main) "965GM wine Messa crash when using DRI" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/213262 | 11:06 |
| Ng | tjaalton: have you seen firefox make the mouse cursor disappear when it's thinking, in the last few days? | 11:15 |
| Ng | (and/or thunderbird) | 11:15 |
| Ng | both are doing it for me atm in metacity and compiz | 11:15 |
| Ng | it's extremely annoying and doesn't happen to a fresh user :/ | 11:15 |
| tjaalton | Ng: no, haven't seen such | 11:23 |
| Ng | dammit | 11:23 |
| Ng | I can't reproduce it anywhere :( | 11:23 |
| Ng | and I can't imagine what on earth could be causing it | 11:24 |
| Ng | oh! | 11:25 |
| Ng | I bet I know what this is | 11:25 |
| Ng | I've not seen the busy pointer in a while, I bet it's just that is showing up blank for some reaosn | 11:25 |
| Ng | yeah, starting gedit or similar makes it briefly disappear when it should be showing the pointer with a spinner next to it | 11:26 |
| Ng | I'm sure there used to be a command to manually set the current pointer | 11:39 |
| Ng | I thought it was xsetpointer, but that seems to do something else entirely ;) | 11:39 |
| Ng | meh, it was getting too annoying to work, so I restarted X and it's back to normal | 12:01 |
| ubotu | New bug: #213346 in xkeyboard-config (main) "Missing character on belgian keyboard" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/213346 | 14:25 |
| ubotu | New bug: #206510 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "Possible Nvidia 8600GT Problem" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206510 | 15:02 |
| james_w | morning bryce. Can you ping me when you're up and have a few minutes to chat please? | 15:18 |
| seb128 | james_w: is that about the xrandr changes? | 15:19 |
| james_w | seb128: yes | 15:19 |
| seb128 | ok, could you have the discussion in a place where I'm too? ;-) | 15:19 |
| james_w | sure, is here ok? | 15:19 |
| seb128 | btw I did update the gnome-desktop and gnome-settings-daemon xrandr patches this afternoon while waiting on new GNOME tarballs | 15:20 |
| seb128 | using the current fedora rpms versions | 15:20 |
| james_w | great, are they uploaded, or somewhere else? | 15:20 |
| seb128 | yes, uploaded to hardy | 15:20 |
| james_w | thanks, I'll make sure to grab those. | 15:21 |
| seb128 | I had to use a Breaks on gnome-control-center because they broke the ABI by changing a struct | 15:21 |
| ubotu | New bug: #213203 in ubiquity (main) "[Hardy Beta] Problems with Live CD Installation (dup-of: 184651)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/213203 | 15:21 |
| seb128 | james_w: so what is to do now is to update the gnome-control-center change and track the bugs I mentionned in the mail | 15:21 |
| seb128 | they added some beta warning text in the capplet when I tried fc9 beta, dunno if they removed that, if not we want to | 15:22 |
| seb128 | james_w: first thing I would wait for the new version, I uploaded a gnome-control-center rebuild, so in an hour or so you should have libgnome-desktop-2 gnome-control-center and gnome-settings-daemon updates available, please make sure they still work for you after uprading (ie, try to restart your session and to use the capplet) | 15:25 |
| james_w | ok | 15:25 |
| seb128 | james_w: http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewcvs/devel/control-center/ has the change, it's add-randr12-capplet.patch there | 15:27 |
| seb128 | james_w: gnome-control-center in hardy has 101_cc-add-randr12-capplet.patch which is basically this patch, the makefile changes have been moved to 102_cc-randr12-makefile.patch | 15:28 |
| seb128 | and the other 1nn_cc-* are changes we did to that code | 15:28 |
| seb128 | the game there is to update 101_cc-add-randr12-capplet.patch using the new redhat version | 15:28 |
| seb128 | and to update then the other patches which need to be updated or drop the one which are not useful after the update | 15:29 |
| seb128 | james_w: if you want to give a try to that you are really welcome ;-) | 15:29 |
| seb128 | and let me know if the summary is not clear ;-) | 15:30 |
| ubotu | New bug: #55554 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15 "HAL Status 3 on AR5212 chipset (broken wifi)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55554 | 15:56 |
| bryce | morning | 17:27 |
| bryce | heya james_w | 17:28 |
| james_w | hi bryce, how are you? | 17:28 |
| bryce | pretty good, you? | 17:28 |
| james_w | good thanks. | 17:28 |
| seb128 | hey bryce | 17:29 |
| james_w | I don't know if you saw but Colin asked me to help out on the gnome/xrandr front, so I am just trying to get up to speed on that. | 17:30 |
| james_w | at the moment I can just about spell xrandr, so I've got to spend some time getting up to speed. | 17:30 |
| bryce | yes, that's great, we can really use the help. The work's pretty straightforward but time consuming and we're down to the crunch | 17:30 |
| james_w | seb128 gave me some pointers to where the applicable code is, but I need a pointer of which direction to go in. | 17:31 |
| bryce | hehe, well most of the work is going to be fixing C patches and packaging | 17:31 |
| bryce | I'll send a reply to the email to start with | 17:31 |
| james_w | cool, I should be able to manage that, I guess the first thing is to reproduce the issues. Is there one that I should start on? | 17:31 |
| seb128 | bryce: dunno if you read but I updated the gnome-desktop and gnome-settings-daemon patched to current redhat version today | 17:31 |
| seb128 | james_w: first thing would be to do the gnome-control-center patch update I would say to make sure we are uptodate before fixing issues when have already been fixed in the update | 17:32 |
| james_w | ok, thanks. | 17:34 |
| seb128 | james_w: otherwise the most frequent complain is g-s-d crashing under xgl, so sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl and restart your session should be enough to trigger it | 17:34 |
| james_w | ok, sounds easy enough. | 17:35 |
| bryce | wow, I think this is the first time I've seen seb128 recommend someone install xgl ;-) | 17:47 |
| seb128 | and that's not going to repeat again soon ;-) | 17:48 |
| bryce | seb128: when where the patches in Fedora's RPM's taken? | 17:53 |
| seb128 | bryce: some hours ago, I took them from their viewcvs | 17:54 |
| bryce | ok | 17:54 |
| bryce | er, I meant, when were the patches snapshotted from ssp's git tree? | 17:55 |
| seb128 | "Sat Apr 5 16:40:52 2008 UTC (2 days ago) by ssp " for the gnome-desktop one | 17:55 |
| seb128 | and around the time for the g-s-d one | 17:56 |
| bryce | ah good. I took snapshots Friday, but Saturday would be newer. | 17:56 |
| seb128 | I used viewcvs rather than git to have something tested | 17:57 |
| seb128 | if they pushed to the distro that's likely working | 17:58 |
| bryce | james, also these patches bring in some new capabilities (clone mode, display hotkeys, drag-and-drop dual-head configuration, and maybe more) | 18:07 |
| bryce | james_w: even though they're features, we also have bug reports in about those as well | 18:07 |
| ubotu | New bug: #213465 in xkeyboard-config (main) "bug with the numeric keyboard " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/213465 | 18:26 |
| ubotu | New bug: #198833 in xorg (main) "OOo writer locks up the whole system" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198833 | 18:42 |
| ubotu | New bug: #213490 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-15-generic 2.6.24.12-15.33 failed to install/upgrade: subprocesso post-installation script retornou erro do status de saída 16" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/213490 | 19:10 |
| ubotu | New bug: #212737 in xorg (main) "Wacom tablet works from LiveCD but not installed hardy" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/212737 | 19:11 |
| james_w | heh, just for clarification we are testing the "System->Preferences->Screen Resolution" tool, aren't we? | 19:11 |
| bryce | right | 19:12 |
| bryce | I've got more background and photos posted at my blog - http://bryceharrington.org/drupal/ | 19:13 |
| james_w | yeah, I've seen your posts about working on it. It looks pretty cool. | 19:14 |
| james_w | something is pretty slow, but I might expect that as it's quite an old card with a non-free driver. | 19:14 |
| bryce | oh yeah, you will likely have trouble testing this with the proprietary drivers | 19:17 |
| bryce | if you need to test it, and can actually run the free driver, that's what I'd suggest | 19:17 |
| james_w | I've got a free one in my laptop, and I can use nv on my desktop, so that's not a problem. | 19:17 |
| bryce | great | 19:20 |
| bryce | fwiw, rotation on -ati locks up the system. rotation on -nv isn't even available. it works about 90-95% on -intel | 19:21 |
| bryce | resolution switching works without catastrophic issues on all hardware I've tested | 19:21 |
| bryce | there are sometimes some glitches though - but can usually be fixed by switching to another rez and back | 19:22 |
| james_w | yeah, switching resolutions went fine, I wasn't offered any other rotations. | 19:22 |
| james_w | I'm not able to test any interesting configurations either, I only have a single monitor. | 19:23 |
| bryce | that's fine - focus just on getting the patches updated; as long as you can test on one config (like -nv) that'll be enough to validate that things got integrated properly | 19:24 |
| bryce | I've gotten several other community members volunteering to do more testing in coming weeks, so we should have ample coverage | 19:25 |
| james_w | ok, should I still work from CVS? | 19:25 |
| james_w | I haven't found the git repo to see if there is anything newer there. | 19:25 |
| bryce | ah, sorry, the git repo is at http://www.gnome.org/~ssp/randr/.git | 19:27 |
| bryce | yes there are some new changes | 19:27 |
| bryce | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62442/ | 19:28 |
| james_w | thanks, I'm grabbing the repo for myself. | 19:28 |
| bryce | I also have set up a bzr repo where I've put my snapshots of his code | 19:29 |
| bryce | https://code.launchpad.net/~bryceharrington/gnome-control-center/ssp-xrandr | 19:30 |
| bryce | the only things of special note there are I have 3 scripts which convert his git code into patches that will apply to our ubuntu packages | 19:30 |
| james_w | so it appears as though the fedora patch and the git repo are actually diverged, I assumed he was just cherry-picking changes. | 19:54 |
| bryce | hrm | 19:55 |
| james_w | I can't find the last CVS change in the git repo. | 19:55 |
| bryce | ok - as seb suspected, there may be fixes in the fedora cvs that haven't gotten put back in ssp's repo, which we probably will want | 19:55 |
| james_w | the penultimate commit in CVS does appear to be in git, so I don't know if it's just a race condition. | 19:56 |
| ubotu | New bug: #212902 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "My video flickers in all apllications relating to video" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/212902 | 20:37 |
| ubotu | New bug: #213532 in xorg (main) "No video when using window transparency." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/213532 | 20:47 |
| james_w | bryce: do you want me to supply you with debdiffs of the source packages, or changes to bzr? | 20:58 |
| bryce | debdiffs would be best | 20:58 |
| james_w | cool | 20:59 |
| james_w | #define I_KNOW_THIS_IS_UNSTABLE_AND_ONLY_IN_FEDORA | 21:00 |
| bryce | yup, the patch I sent you should strip all of those out | 21:00 |
| james_w | hmm, you sent me a patch? | 21:00 |
| bryce | yeah, hmm did you not get my reply? | 21:00 |
| james_w | to Colin's email? | 21:01 |
| bryce | oh duh, you weren't on the cc | 21:01 |
| bryce | yeah | 21:01 |
| james_w | ah, ok. | 21:01 |
| bryce | re-sent | 21:01 |
| james_w | thanks | 21:04 |
| ubotu | New bug: #213566 in xkeyboard-config (main) "dapper->hardy missing files on upgrade" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/213566 | 21:35 |
| mvo | does anyone of you have a idea about bug #213566 | 21:37 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 213566 in xkeyboard-config "dapper->hardy missing files on upgrade" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/213566 | 21:37 |
| mvo | reproducable on dapper->hardy upgrade with the release-upgrader | 21:37 |
| bryce | hmm | 21:37 |
| mvo | pretty scary | 21:37 |
| bryce | odd, but it looks like the upgrade code just needs to be modified to set up those symlinks | 21:38 |
| mvo | "the upgrade code" -> update-manager? or some postinst magic in the package? | 21:39 |
| bryce | not sure... I'm not seeing symlink manufacturing stuff in the x11proto-kb rules, and there's no postinst there | 21:40 |
| mvo | hmmm, bad. dpkg -c xkb-data.deb has it, but dpkg -L xkb-data (and the filesystem) do not have the symlinks | 21:43 |
| mvo | I will investigate more tomorrow, might be a dpkg problem or some other oddness | 21:44 |
| bryce | ok, let me know if you need help | 21:44 |
| bryce | xkb-data looks obsolescent... maybe it's only used for transitioning | 21:45 |
| bryce | er wait nevermind, that's xkeyboard-config | 21:45 |
| mvo | I suspect it might be some strangness with the replaces | 21:47 |
| mvo | tomorrow, its sleeping time | 21:47 |
| james_w | I'm finishing for the day as well, I'll try and have the patches ready for you tomorrow. | 21:53 |
| bryce | cool, cya | 21:53 |
| bryce | james_w: how far along did you get? | 21:53 |
| bryce | james_w: and is there anything you're stuck on that I could work on in the meantime? | 21:54 |
| james_w | bryce: I didn't really get anywhere, I was just looking around the code trying to work out which bits were in which patch. | 22:19 |
| james_w | feel free to work on it and drop me anything you get done in a mail. | 22:19 |
| bryce | ah ok | 22:19 |
| bryce | sure | 22:19 |
| bryce | doing some keyboard stuff at the moment, but may look at the patches if nothing higher priority comes up | 22:20 |
| james_w | ok | 22:20 |
| seb128 | what patches do you guys speak about? | 22:20 |
| seb128 | have you tried that the updates I did today did break the world? ;-) | 22:21 |
| james_w | seb128: I tested today's updates, they worked in my limited testing. | 22:25 |
| seb128 | james_w: ok, thanks | 22:25 |
| seb128 | as long as it doesn't make GNOME crash after login that's alright | 22:25 |
| james_w | we were discussing the CVS, git and Ubuntu versions of the patches, it's not immediately clear which code is in which set. | 22:25 |
| seb128 | what I would say is take the redhat updates patch and replace the hardy one using it | 22:26 |
| james_w | yeah, that makes sense, I was also looking if there was anything worth taking in git. | 22:27 |
| * james_w wishes for one version control system for all three, this is exactly what that would be great for. | 22:27 | |
| seb128 | yeah | 22:28 |
| ubotu | New bug: #212319 in xscreensaver (main) "[fglrx amd64] atunnel crashed with SIGSEGV (dup-of: 181121)" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/212319 | 23:20 |
| ubotu | New bug: #212320 in xscreensaver (main) "[fglrx amd64] queens crashed with SIGSEGV (dup-of: 181121)" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/212320 | 23:20 |
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