[02:10] New bug: #207457 in ubuntu "[Hardy] Spanish keyboad layout won't work (dup-of: 196277)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/207457 [03:40] New bug: #213171 in xorg (main) "Unable to install with GUI on Fujitsu Lifebook C7651" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/213171 [03:56] New bug: #77226 in wacom-tools (main) "Wacom Mouse Scroll Wheel is Upside-Down" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77226 [04:56] New bug: #213191 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "855GME system freezes when switching to external monitor" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/213191 [05:58] New bug: #212996 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "[hardy] fglrx breaks hibernate" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/212996 [07:05] New bug: #213212 in xserver-xorg-video-amd (main) "freeze with lots of usb events" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/213212 [11:06] New bug: #213262 in mesa (main) "965GM wine Messa crash when using DRI" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/213262 [11:15] tjaalton: have you seen firefox make the mouse cursor disappear when it's thinking, in the last few days? [11:15] (and/or thunderbird) [11:15] both are doing it for me atm in metacity and compiz [11:15] it's extremely annoying and doesn't happen to a fresh user :/ [11:23] Ng: no, haven't seen such [11:23] dammit [11:23] I can't reproduce it anywhere :( [11:24] and I can't imagine what on earth could be causing it [11:25] oh! [11:25] I bet I know what this is [11:25] I've not seen the busy pointer in a while, I bet it's just that is showing up blank for some reaosn [11:26] yeah, starting gedit or similar makes it briefly disappear when it should be showing the pointer with a spinner next to it [11:39] I'm sure there used to be a command to manually set the current pointer [11:39] I thought it was xsetpointer, but that seems to do something else entirely ;) [12:01] meh, it was getting too annoying to work, so I restarted X and it's back to normal [14:25] New bug: #213346 in xkeyboard-config (main) "Missing character on belgian keyboard" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/213346 [15:02] New bug: #206510 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "Possible Nvidia 8600GT Problem" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206510 [15:18] morning bryce. Can you ping me when you're up and have a few minutes to chat please? [15:19] james_w: is that about the xrandr changes? [15:19] seb128: yes [15:19] ok, could you have the discussion in a place where I'm too? ;-) [15:19] sure, is here ok? [15:20] btw I did update the gnome-desktop and gnome-settings-daemon xrandr patches this afternoon while waiting on new GNOME tarballs [15:20] using the current fedora rpms versions [15:20] great, are they uploaded, or somewhere else? [15:20] yes, uploaded to hardy [15:21] thanks, I'll make sure to grab those. [15:21] I had to use a Breaks on gnome-control-center because they broke the ABI by changing a struct [15:21] New bug: #213203 in ubiquity (main) "[Hardy Beta] Problems with Live CD Installation (dup-of: 184651)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/213203 [15:21] james_w: so what is to do now is to update the gnome-control-center change and track the bugs I mentionned in the mail [15:22] they added some beta warning text in the capplet when I tried fc9 beta, dunno if they removed that, if not we want to [15:25] james_w: first thing I would wait for the new version, I uploaded a gnome-control-center rebuild, so in an hour or so you should have libgnome-desktop-2 gnome-control-center and gnome-settings-daemon updates available, please make sure they still work for you after uprading (ie, try to restart your session and to use the capplet) [15:25] ok [15:27] james_w: http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewcvs/devel/control-center/ has the change, it's add-randr12-capplet.patch there [15:28] james_w: gnome-control-center in hardy has 101_cc-add-randr12-capplet.patch which is basically this patch, the makefile changes have been moved to 102_cc-randr12-makefile.patch [15:28] and the other 1nn_cc-* are changes we did to that code [15:28] the game there is to update 101_cc-add-randr12-capplet.patch using the new redhat version [15:29] and to update then the other patches which need to be updated or drop the one which are not useful after the update [15:29] james_w: if you want to give a try to that you are really welcome ;-) [15:30] and let me know if the summary is not clear ;-) [15:56] New bug: #55554 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15 "HAL Status 3 on AR5212 chipset (broken wifi)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55554 [17:27] morning [17:28] heya james_w [17:28] hi bryce, how are you? [17:28] pretty good, you? [17:28] good thanks. [17:29] hey bryce [17:30] I don't know if you saw but Colin asked me to help out on the gnome/xrandr front, so I am just trying to get up to speed on that. [17:30] at the moment I can just about spell xrandr, so I've got to spend some time getting up to speed. [17:30] yes, that's great, we can really use the help. The work's pretty straightforward but time consuming and we're down to the crunch [17:31] seb128 gave me some pointers to where the applicable code is, but I need a pointer of which direction to go in. [17:31] hehe, well most of the work is going to be fixing C patches and packaging [17:31] I'll send a reply to the email to start with [17:31] cool, I should be able to manage that, I guess the first thing is to reproduce the issues. Is there one that I should start on? [17:31] bryce: dunno if you read but I updated the gnome-desktop and gnome-settings-daemon patched to current redhat version today [17:32] james_w: first thing would be to do the gnome-control-center patch update I would say to make sure we are uptodate before fixing issues when have already been fixed in the update [17:34] ok, thanks. [17:34] james_w: otherwise the most frequent complain is g-s-d crashing under xgl, so sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl and restart your session should be enough to trigger it [17:35] ok, sounds easy enough. [17:47] wow, I think this is the first time I've seen seb128 recommend someone install xgl ;-) [17:48] and that's not going to repeat again soon ;-) [17:53] seb128: when where the patches in Fedora's RPM's taken? [17:54] bryce: some hours ago, I took them from their viewcvs [17:54] ok [17:55] er, I meant, when were the patches snapshotted from ssp's git tree? [17:55] "Sat Apr 5 16:40:52 2008 UTC (2 days ago) by ssp " for the gnome-desktop one [17:56] and around the time for the g-s-d one [17:56] ah good. I took snapshots Friday, but Saturday would be newer. [17:57] I used viewcvs rather than git to have something tested [17:58] if they pushed to the distro that's likely working [18:07] james, also these patches bring in some new capabilities (clone mode, display hotkeys, drag-and-drop dual-head configuration, and maybe more) [18:07] james_w: even though they're features, we also have bug reports in about those as well [18:26] New bug: #213465 in xkeyboard-config (main) "bug with the numeric keyboard " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/213465 [18:42] New bug: #198833 in xorg (main) "OOo writer locks up the whole system" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198833 [19:10] New bug: #213490 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-15-generic 2.6.24.12-15.33 failed to install/upgrade: subprocesso post-installation script retornou erro do status de saĆ­da 16" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/213490 [19:11] New bug: #212737 in xorg (main) "Wacom tablet works from LiveCD but not installed hardy" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/212737 [19:11] heh, just for clarification we are testing the "System->Preferences->Screen Resolution" tool, aren't we? [19:12] right [19:13] I've got more background and photos posted at my blog - http://bryceharrington.org/drupal/ [19:14] yeah, I've seen your posts about working on it. It looks pretty cool. [19:14] something is pretty slow, but I might expect that as it's quite an old card with a non-free driver. [19:17] oh yeah, you will likely have trouble testing this with the proprietary drivers [19:17] if you need to test it, and can actually run the free driver, that's what I'd suggest [19:17] I've got a free one in my laptop, and I can use nv on my desktop, so that's not a problem. [19:20] great [19:21] fwiw, rotation on -ati locks up the system. rotation on -nv isn't even available. it works about 90-95% on -intel [19:21] resolution switching works without catastrophic issues on all hardware I've tested [19:22] there are sometimes some glitches though - but can usually be fixed by switching to another rez and back [19:22] yeah, switching resolutions went fine, I wasn't offered any other rotations. [19:23] I'm not able to test any interesting configurations either, I only have a single monitor. [19:24] that's fine - focus just on getting the patches updated; as long as you can test on one config (like -nv) that'll be enough to validate that things got integrated properly [19:25] I've gotten several other community members volunteering to do more testing in coming weeks, so we should have ample coverage [19:25] ok, should I still work from CVS? [19:25] I haven't found the git repo to see if there is anything newer there. [19:27] ah, sorry, the git repo is at http://www.gnome.org/~ssp/randr/.git [19:27] yes there are some new changes [19:28] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62442/ [19:28] thanks, I'm grabbing the repo for myself. [19:29] I also have set up a bzr repo where I've put my snapshots of his code [19:30] https://code.launchpad.net/~bryceharrington/gnome-control-center/ssp-xrandr [19:30] the only things of special note there are I have 3 scripts which convert his git code into patches that will apply to our ubuntu packages [19:54] so it appears as though the fedora patch and the git repo are actually diverged, I assumed he was just cherry-picking changes. [19:55] hrm [19:55] I can't find the last CVS change in the git repo. [19:55] ok - as seb suspected, there may be fixes in the fedora cvs that haven't gotten put back in ssp's repo, which we probably will want [19:56] the penultimate commit in CVS does appear to be in git, so I don't know if it's just a race condition. [20:37] New bug: #212902 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "My video flickers in all apllications relating to video" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/212902 [20:47] New bug: #213532 in xorg (main) "No video when using window transparency." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/213532 [20:58] bryce: do you want me to supply you with debdiffs of the source packages, or changes to bzr? [20:58] debdiffs would be best [20:59] cool [21:00] #define I_KNOW_THIS_IS_UNSTABLE_AND_ONLY_IN_FEDORA [21:00] yup, the patch I sent you should strip all of those out [21:00] hmm, you sent me a patch? [21:00] yeah, hmm did you not get my reply? [21:01] to Colin's email? [21:01] oh duh, you weren't on the cc [21:01] yeah [21:01] ah, ok. [21:01] re-sent [21:04] thanks [21:35] New bug: #213566 in xkeyboard-config (main) "dapper->hardy missing files on upgrade" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/213566 [21:37] does anyone of you have a idea about bug #213566 [21:37] Launchpad bug 213566 in xkeyboard-config "dapper->hardy missing files on upgrade" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/213566 [21:37] reproducable on dapper->hardy upgrade with the release-upgrader [21:37] hmm [21:37] pretty scary [21:38] odd, but it looks like the upgrade code just needs to be modified to set up those symlinks [21:39] "the upgrade code" -> update-manager? or some postinst magic in the package? [21:40] not sure... I'm not seeing symlink manufacturing stuff in the x11proto-kb rules, and there's no postinst there [21:43] hmmm, bad. dpkg -c xkb-data.deb has it, but dpkg -L xkb-data (and the filesystem) do not have the symlinks [21:44] I will investigate more tomorrow, might be a dpkg problem or some other oddness [21:44] ok, let me know if you need help [21:45] xkb-data looks obsolescent... maybe it's only used for transitioning [21:45] er wait nevermind, that's xkeyboard-config [21:47] I suspect it might be some strangness with the replaces [21:47] tomorrow, its sleeping time [21:53] I'm finishing for the day as well, I'll try and have the patches ready for you tomorrow. [21:53] cool, cya [21:53] james_w: how far along did you get? [21:54] james_w: and is there anything you're stuck on that I could work on in the meantime? [22:19] bryce: I didn't really get anywhere, I was just looking around the code trying to work out which bits were in which patch. [22:19] feel free to work on it and drop me anything you get done in a mail. [22:19] ah ok [22:19] sure [22:20] doing some keyboard stuff at the moment, but may look at the patches if nothing higher priority comes up [22:20] ok [22:20] what patches do you guys speak about? [22:21] have you tried that the updates I did today did break the world? ;-) [22:25] seb128: I tested today's updates, they worked in my limited testing. [22:25] james_w: ok, thanks [22:25] as long as it doesn't make GNOME crash after login that's alright [22:25] we were discussing the CVS, git and Ubuntu versions of the patches, it's not immediately clear which code is in which set. [22:26] what I would say is take the redhat updates patch and replace the hardy one using it [22:27] yeah, that makes sense, I was also looking if there was anything worth taking in git. [22:27] * james_w wishes for one version control system for all three, this is exactly what that would be great for. [22:28] yeah [23:20] New bug: #212319 in xscreensaver (main) "[fglrx amd64] atunnel crashed with SIGSEGV (dup-of: 181121)" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/212319 [23:20] New bug: #212320 in xscreensaver (main) "[fglrx amd64] queens crashed with SIGSEGV (dup-of: 181121)" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/212320