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=== RichEd-1 is now known as RichEd
RichEdhey ogra_cmpc, juliux08:58
RichEdogra_cmpc: running the apr 01 image ... looking slick & sexy08:59
* RichEd likes the new menu style ... with the orange bar down l.h.s. & "add to panel / desktop" menu etc.09:00
manu_ubuhello10:23
manu_ubuI search one solution for load balancing the ltsp servers, have you an idea ?10:24
manu_ubuanyboby have an idea ?10:27
manu_ubuI test ipvs but many problem for redirection the session10:28
manu_ubuogra_cmpc have you integrate a load balancing in the ltsp as mille xterm ?10:30
ogra_cmpcmanu_ubu, nope, we have reviewed the changes from mille at ltsp.org and they need lots of conceptual changes, but i know francis usually develops on ubuntu, so you will find packages for it in his PPA10:31
ogra_cmpcmail him :)10:31
manu_ubuok thank ;)10:31
highvoltagegood morning11:28
stgraberogra_cmpc: ping13:33
stgraberE: Syntax error /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/proxy:2: Extra junk at end of file13:34
stgrabererror: LTSP client installation ended abnormally13:34
stgraberroot@ltsp-server:/opt# cat /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/proxy13:34
stgraberAcquire::http::Proxy "${http_proxy}"13:34
stgrabersomething is going wrong with ltsp-build-client and the proxy it seems13:34
manu_ubustgraber: you have intégrate a proxy in the ltsp chroot?13:40
stgrabermanu_ubu: nope, I have an http proxy for all my internet access13:40
stgraberthat's not a problem, I found the bug and did the patch for this one, let's hope it'll be in for Hardy13:41
manu_ubuok13:42
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=== Kinesakof is now known as danl
danlCan someone let me know where I can download the edubuntu 8.04 beta?15:45
danlI think I am looking at an ISO of the source, but I am hoping there is something that is already compiled.15:49
ogra_cmpcwith hardy (8.04) edubuntu becdame an addon CD to a normal ubuntu install15:56
danlah, Cool.  I found that.15:57
danlthanks for info.15:57
ogra_cmpcdanl, are you after ltsp ? or just the edu applications ?16:02
danlI work for a school district and we have a few labs and laptop carts that are pretty good candidates for ltsp, so I'd like to be able to play around with it and set up a demo before summer.16:06
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=== anthony is now known as tonyyarusso
=== manu_ubu-away is now known as manu_ubu
Muhammad_SaadHello, I have installed an additional Urdu keyboard layout but cannot get it to appear in the "Layouts" section of "Keyboard Preferences". What should I do?17:21
Muhammad_SaadAt least tell me where else should I ask? Should I ask at #gnome?17:26
ogra_cmpc how died you install it ? there should come one with the urdu langpack17:26
Muhammad_SaadThe default one is not suitable for my needs.17:28
Muhammad_SaadI installed the one from crulp.org17:28
ogra_cmpcdid you ask in #ubuntu already ?17:28
ogra_cmpcthat should be the first target forsupport questions17:29
=== blue-frog_ is now known as blue-fro
ogra_cmpcand also file a bug if the default keymap doesnt fit you, so you get a proper one included17:29
ogra_cmpc(if you just fix it yourself and dont tell the developers they cant fix it in teh distro )17:30
Muhammad_SaadSomeone at #ubuntu has just provided me a useful link. I am checking it now.17:37
Muhammad_SaadThe method worked. If someone else asks such a question, please direct him/her to http://ur.wikipedia.org/wiki/معاونت:Ubuntu_Linux_Localization17:49
ogra_cmpcMuhammad_Saad, if you file a bug i will direct people there  ;)17:51
Muhammad_SaadI think the default Urdu (Pakistan) keyboard may not be suitable for some users.17:53
Muhammad_SaadThere are two alternative layouts available. One is located at urduweb.org and the other one is at http://crulp.org/software/localization/keyboards/linuxphonetickb.html17:54
ogra_cmpcright, file a bug against the urdu language-pack package (or language-support)17:54
Muhammad_SaadI shall do it if I get time.17:56
ogra_cmpcthanks :)17:57
Muhammad_SaadIf, for some reason, I could not do it, will someone else do it? :)17:58
ogra_cmpci wil notify the localization maintainer, but he will forget about it without a bug17:59
Muhammad_SaadThanks.18:00
Muhammad_SaadNow I have to leave.18:00
jcgrv06Hello. Quick question: is the swap partition size supposed to be around the same size than the RAM?18:01
dougbis anyone here familiar with italc?18:47
LaserJockdougb: you want stgraber18:47
dougbhe's familiar with it?18:47
LaserJockyeah, he's the one that maintains it in Ubuntu18:48
dougbahh i see18:49
dougbi just need to know how to send ctrl+alt+del haha18:49
PetarisHi all19:02
cbx33hey guys19:04
LaserJockhi Pete19:07
cbx33hey Las19:08
cbx33howz it going19:08
LaserJockuggg, grading lab reports19:09
johnnyall A's19:10
johnnydone19:10
johnnyi just saved you a ton of work, no thanks required19:10
johnny:)19:10
LaserJockjohnny: sadly it's not that easy19:12
LaserJockI have to keep a 80% average19:12
jcgrv06Hello. Does the swap file size have to be similar to the RAM's?19:25
ogra_cmpcif you want to use hibernate (suspend to disk) it should be 1.5x ram at least (rather 2x)19:26
LaserJockI just make mine a few MB beigger than my RAM19:26
ogra_cmpcif you dont plan to do that ram size or even less should be fine (depending on your ram)19:26
ogra_cmpcbeyond 2G i dont really think you need swap ... unless you want STD19:27
LaserJockogra_cmpc: is your hardy CMPC image rsyncable?19:29
ogra_cmpcno, but zsyncable19:29
ogra_cmpcsee the instructions on the download page19:29
ogra_cmpcbut i'd suggest to wait for tonights build i changed the partitioning scheme massivley on the weekend and havent build that yet ... (will trigger the build as last thing before going to bed tonight)19:31
LaserJockk19:31
LaserJockI'm not sure when exactly I'll get to it but I really want to try it out19:31
ogra_cmpcfor the sake of saving bandwith you can indeed pull another one first :)19:31
ogra_cmpcthe nicest feedback i got so far is: flash is choppy if you run on battery and scale the cpu to 115MHz19:33
LaserJockwow, only a 1GB usb disk needed now?19:33
ogra_cmpcfor the installer19:33
ogra_cmpc900M even :)19:34
ogra_cmpci'm planning to put up a spec for usb images by default for intrepid :) who knows probably we could overcome the DVD restriction with that ;)19:34
LaserJockhmm, don't they only have 1USB slot?19:35
ogra_cmpctwo19:35
LaserJockoh19:35
LaserJockI was trying to figure out how you install to a USB key when there was only 1 slot ;-)19:35
ogra_cmpcheh19:35
LaserJockI like keeping Windows on the hard drive so I can compare19:35
LaserJock"hard drive"19:35
ogra_cmpcits pretty cool for testing ... and i found out my image runs on all MIB devices as well (at least thats true for teh samples we have in london)19:36
ogra_cmpcyou cant really compare that ...19:36
LaserJockMIB?19:36
ogra_cmpcthe SSD chip in the usb key might be totally different, there are massive differences beweeen flash chips19:37
ogra_cmpcmobile internet b...19:37
ogra_cmpcduno waht the b is for19:37
ogra_cmpcthey are usually 7" display devices with split keyboard (one half on every side of the display)19:38
LaserJockthat's pretty cool19:39
ogra_cmpcyeah19:39
LaserJockogra_cmpc: oh, btw. Do you use abiword for the CMPC at all?19:41
LaserJockI can't remember if you decided to ditch OO.o or not19:41
ogra_cmpcyup19:41
LaserJocknot sure if you saw the big deal with trying to get abiword 2.6 into Hardy19:42
ogra_cmpcon the 30G model it should run fine i guess19:42
LaserJockbut you're the only person that I thought would actually be affected19:42
ogra_cmpcbut for the 2G one oo.o is no option19:42
ogra_cmpcyeah, i saw that19:42
ogra_cmpcxubuntu is19:42
ogra_cmpcthey ship it by default19:42
LaserJockwell, actually some of the discussion was whether to demote it19:43
LaserJockwould that affect you?19:43
PetarisI have a NFS question19:43
ogra_cmpcnot really, the image builder needs universe already19:43
PetarisI use NFS and OpenLDAP for serving my users on the ltsp server19:44
Petarisbut on the NFS server I have to let everyone have read access to the parent directories19:44
Petarisis there a way to setup a user for the ltsp server to use to see those directories19:45
Petaris?19:45
PetarisHi ogra19:45
PetarisHi LaserJock19:45
Petaris:)19:45
LaserJockhi Petaris19:45
PetarisDoes anyone have any ideas how I might do this?19:48
PetarisI am googling too19:49
Petarisfor some reason the LTSP server is requiring that "everyone" has read access which I don't want for security reasons19:50
Petarisbut since user homes get mapped via NFS I am not sure of a way around it other than by using a user account on the NFS server that has read access to the directories19:51
=== blue-fro is now known as blue-frog
generalsnusOk, ive managed to get our edubuntu clients authenticate against our w2k3 server(Joined domain).  But is it possible to have roaming profiles or somthing similar?  lot of users are going to use the klients and we want a roaming profile.. or atlest a folder where they can save in, we would also need to deny them saving anything on the client then20:32
cbx33generalsnus, I know someone who implemented roaming profiles21:58
cbx33might be able to give you an idea of how to do it21:58
cbx33drop me a mail and it'll remind me tomorrow21:58
cbx33silentkeystroke@googlemail.com21:58
generalsnushow can i map my /home folder to a windows server?   so its kinda like winxp with roaming profiles?22:39
generalsnusso when i log in with "DOMAIN\user"      i get my mapped home folder?22:40
LaserJockgeneralsnus: did you see what cbx33 wrote earlier?22:48
generalsnuser no..dont think so22:48
LaserJockcbx33: generalsnus, I know someone who implemented roaming profiles22:48
LaserJockcbx33: might be able to give you an idea of how to do it22:48
LaserJockcbx33: drop me a mail and it'll remind me tomorrow22:48
LaserJockcbx33: silentkeystroke@googlemail.com22:48
generalsnusk, thanks22:49

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