[08:58] <RichEd> hey ogra_cmpc, juliux
[08:59] <RichEd> ogra_cmpc: running the apr 01 image ... looking slick & sexy
[09:00]  * RichEd likes the new menu style ... with the orange bar down l.h.s. & "add to panel / desktop" menu etc.
[10:23] <manu_ubu> hello
[10:24] <manu_ubu> I search one solution for load balancing the ltsp servers, have you an idea ?
[10:27] <manu_ubu> anyboby have an idea ?
[10:28] <manu_ubu> I test ipvs but many problem for redirection the session
[10:30] <manu_ubu> ogra_cmpc have you integrate a load balancing in the ltsp as mille xterm ?
[10:31] <ogra_cmpc> manu_ubu, nope, we have reviewed the changes from mille at ltsp.org and they need lots of conceptual changes, but i know francis usually develops on ubuntu, so you will find packages for it in his PPA
[10:31] <ogra_cmpc> mail him :)
[10:31] <manu_ubu> ok thank ;)
[11:28] <highvoltage> good morning
[13:33] <stgraber> ogra_cmpc: ping
[13:34] <stgraber> E: Syntax error /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/proxy:2: Extra junk at end of file
[13:34] <stgraber> error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally
[13:34] <stgraber> root@ltsp-server:/opt# cat /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/proxy
[13:34] <stgraber> Acquire::http::Proxy "${http_proxy}"
[13:34] <stgraber> something is going wrong with ltsp-build-client and the proxy it seems
[13:40] <manu_ubu> stgraber: you have intégrate a proxy in the ltsp chroot?
[13:40] <stgraber> manu_ubu: nope, I have an http proxy for all my internet access
[13:41] <stgraber> that's not a problem, I found the bug and did the patch for this one, let's hope it'll be in for Hardy
[13:42] <manu_ubu> ok
[15:45] <danl> Can someone let me know where I can download the edubuntu 8.04 beta?
[15:49] <danl> I think I am looking at an ISO of the source, but I am hoping there is something that is already compiled.
[15:56] <ogra_cmpc> with hardy (8.04) edubuntu becdame an addon CD to a normal ubuntu install
[15:57] <danl> ah, Cool.  I found that.
[15:57] <danl> thanks for info.
[16:02] <ogra_cmpc> danl, are you after ltsp ? or just the edu applications ?
[16:06] <danl> I work for a school district and we have a few labs and laptop carts that are pretty good candidates for ltsp, so I'd like to be able to play around with it and set up a demo before summer.
[17:21] <Muhammad_Saad> Hello, I have installed an additional Urdu keyboard layout but cannot get it to appear in the "Layouts" section of "Keyboard Preferences". What should I do?
[17:26] <Muhammad_Saad> At least tell me where else should I ask? Should I ask at #gnome?
[17:26] <ogra_cmpc>  how died you install it ? there should come one with the urdu langpack
[17:28] <Muhammad_Saad> The default one is not suitable for my needs.
[17:28] <Muhammad_Saad> I installed the one from crulp.org
[17:28] <ogra_cmpc> did you ask in #ubuntu already ?
[17:29] <ogra_cmpc> that should be the first target forsupport questions
[17:29] <ogra_cmpc> and also file a bug if the default keymap doesnt fit you, so you get a proper one included
[17:30] <ogra_cmpc> (if you just fix it yourself and dont tell the developers they cant fix it in teh distro )
[17:37] <Muhammad_Saad> Someone at #ubuntu has just provided me a useful link. I am checking it now.
[17:49] <Muhammad_Saad> The method worked. If someone else asks such a question, please direct him/her to http://ur.wikipedia.org/wiki/معاونت:Ubuntu_Linux_Localization
[17:51] <ogra_cmpc> Muhammad_Saad, if you file a bug i will direct people there  ;)
[17:53] <Muhammad_Saad> I think the default Urdu (Pakistan) keyboard may not be suitable for some users.
[17:54] <Muhammad_Saad> There are two alternative layouts available. One is located at urduweb.org and the other one is at http://crulp.org/software/localization/keyboards/linuxphonetickb.html
[17:54] <ogra_cmpc> right, file a bug against the urdu language-pack package (or language-support)
[17:56] <Muhammad_Saad> I shall do it if I get time.
[17:57] <ogra_cmpc> thanks :)
[17:58] <Muhammad_Saad> If, for some reason, I could not do it, will someone else do it? :)
[17:59] <ogra_cmpc> i wil notify the localization maintainer, but he will forget about it without a bug
[18:00] <Muhammad_Saad> Thanks.
[18:00] <Muhammad_Saad> Now I have to leave.
[18:01] <jcgrv06> Hello. Quick question: is the swap partition size supposed to be around the same size than the RAM?
[18:47] <dougb> is anyone here familiar with italc?
[18:47] <LaserJock> dougb: you want stgraber
[18:47] <dougb> he's familiar with it?
[18:48] <LaserJock> yeah, he's the one that maintains it in Ubuntu
[18:49] <dougb> ahh i see
[18:49] <dougb> i just need to know how to send ctrl+alt+del haha
[19:02] <Petaris> Hi all
[19:04] <cbx33> hey guys
[19:07] <LaserJock> hi Pete
[19:08] <cbx33> hey Las
[19:08] <cbx33> howz it going
[19:09] <LaserJock> uggg, grading lab reports
[19:10] <johnny> all A's
[19:10] <johnny> done
[19:10] <johnny> i just saved you a ton of work, no thanks required
[19:10] <johnny> :)
[19:12] <LaserJock> johnny: sadly it's not that easy
[19:12] <LaserJock> I have to keep a 80% average
[19:25] <jcgrv06> Hello. Does the swap file size have to be similar to the RAM's?
[19:26] <ogra_cmpc> if you want to use hibernate (suspend to disk) it should be 1.5x ram at least (rather 2x)
[19:26] <LaserJock> I just make mine a few MB beigger than my RAM
[19:26] <ogra_cmpc> if you dont plan to do that ram size or even less should be fine (depending on your ram)
[19:27] <ogra_cmpc> beyond 2G i dont really think you need swap ... unless you want STD
[19:29] <LaserJock> ogra_cmpc: is your hardy CMPC image rsyncable?
[19:29] <ogra_cmpc> no, but zsyncable
[19:29] <ogra_cmpc> see the instructions on the download page
[19:31] <ogra_cmpc> but i'd suggest to wait for tonights build i changed the partitioning scheme massivley on the weekend and havent build that yet ... (will trigger the build as last thing before going to bed tonight)
[19:31] <LaserJock> k
[19:31] <LaserJock> I'm not sure when exactly I'll get to it but I really want to try it out
[19:31] <ogra_cmpc> for the sake of saving bandwith you can indeed pull another one first :)
[19:33] <ogra_cmpc> the nicest feedback i got so far is: flash is choppy if you run on battery and scale the cpu to 115MHz
[19:33] <LaserJock> wow, only a 1GB usb disk needed now?
[19:33] <ogra_cmpc> for the installer
[19:34] <ogra_cmpc> 900M even :)
[19:34] <ogra_cmpc> i'm planning to put up a spec for usb images by default for intrepid :) who knows probably we could overcome the DVD restriction with that ;)
[19:35] <LaserJock> hmm, don't they only have 1USB slot?
[19:35] <ogra_cmpc> two
[19:35] <LaserJock> oh
[19:35] <LaserJock> I was trying to figure out how you install to a USB key when there was only 1 slot ;-)
[19:35] <ogra_cmpc> heh
[19:35] <LaserJock> I like keeping Windows on the hard drive so I can compare
[19:35] <LaserJock> "hard drive"
[19:36] <ogra_cmpc> its pretty cool for testing ... and i found out my image runs on all MIB devices as well (at least thats true for teh samples we have in london)
[19:36] <ogra_cmpc> you cant really compare that ...
[19:36] <LaserJock> MIB?
[19:37] <ogra_cmpc> the SSD chip in the usb key might be totally different, there are massive differences beweeen flash chips
[19:37] <ogra_cmpc> mobile internet b...
[19:37] <ogra_cmpc> duno waht the b is for
[19:38] <ogra_cmpc> they are usually 7" display devices with split keyboard (one half on every side of the display)
[19:39] <LaserJock> that's pretty cool
[19:39] <ogra_cmpc> yeah
[19:41] <LaserJock> ogra_cmpc: oh, btw. Do you use abiword for the CMPC at all?
[19:41] <LaserJock> I can't remember if you decided to ditch OO.o or not
[19:41] <ogra_cmpc> yup
[19:42] <LaserJock> not sure if you saw the big deal with trying to get abiword 2.6 into Hardy
[19:42] <ogra_cmpc> on the 30G model it should run fine i guess
[19:42] <LaserJock> but you're the only person that I thought would actually be affected
[19:42] <ogra_cmpc> but for the 2G one oo.o is no option
[19:42] <ogra_cmpc> yeah, i saw that
[19:42] <ogra_cmpc> xubuntu is
[19:42] <ogra_cmpc> they ship it by default
[19:43] <LaserJock> well, actually some of the discussion was whether to demote it
[19:43] <LaserJock> would that affect you?
[19:43] <Petaris> I have a NFS question
[19:43] <ogra_cmpc> not really, the image builder needs universe already
[19:44] <Petaris> I use NFS and OpenLDAP for serving my users on the ltsp server
[19:44] <Petaris> but on the NFS server I have to let everyone have read access to the parent directories
[19:45] <Petaris> is there a way to setup a user for the ltsp server to use to see those directories
[19:45] <Petaris> ?
[19:45] <Petaris> Hi ogra
[19:45] <Petaris> Hi LaserJock
[19:45] <Petaris> :)
[19:45] <LaserJock> hi Petaris
[19:48] <Petaris> Does anyone have any ideas how I might do this?
[19:49] <Petaris> I am googling too
[19:50] <Petaris> for some reason the LTSP server is requiring that "everyone" has read access which I don't want for security reasons
[19:51] <Petaris> but since user homes get mapped via NFS I am not sure of a way around it other than by using a user account on the NFS server that has read access to the directories
[20:32] <generalsnus> Ok, ive managed to get our edubuntu clients authenticate against our w2k3 server(Joined domain).  But is it possible to have roaming profiles or somthing similar?  lot of users are going to use the klients and we want a roaming profile.. or atlest a folder where they can save in, we would also need to deny them saving anything on the client then
[21:58] <cbx33> generalsnus, I know someone who implemented roaming profiles
[21:58] <cbx33> might be able to give you an idea of how to do it
[21:58] <cbx33> drop me a mail and it'll remind me tomorrow
[21:58] <cbx33> silentkeystroke@googlemail.com
[22:39] <generalsnus> how can i map my /home folder to a windows server?   so its kinda like winxp with roaming profiles?
[22:40] <generalsnus> so when i log in with "DOMAIN\user"      i get my mapped home folder?
[22:48] <LaserJock> generalsnus: did you see what cbx33 wrote earlier?
[22:48] <generalsnus> er no..dont think so
[22:48] <LaserJock> cbx33: generalsnus, I know someone who implemented roaming profiles
[22:48] <LaserJock> cbx33: might be able to give you an idea of how to do it
[22:48] <LaserJock> cbx33: drop me a mail and it'll remind me tomorrow
[22:48] <LaserJock> cbx33: silentkeystroke@googlemail.com
[22:49] <generalsnus> k, thanks