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bddebianBoo01:32
pochuargh!01:32
* pochu goes to bed crying ;)01:32
bddebian:)01:33
arakthorI'd like to help with bugs, how / where should I start?01:46
mrooneyhi arakthor! you should look at the links in the topic02:16
arakthoryeh, I've gone through most of 'em02:16
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pranaHow important would you consider bug 211805?  Medium?03:37
ubotuLaunchpad bug 211805 in policykit-gnome "Username combo has 3 commas appended" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21180503:37
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thekornbdmurray, thanks for the py-lp-bugs upload08:17
pantsdI was wondering if I could get someone to look at a bug I filed and tell me if there is enough info in it? [ https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ghc6/+bug/213775 ]08:23
ubotuLaunchpad bug 213775 in ghc6 "ghc 6.8.2 cabal won't run" [Undecided,New]08:23
pantsdwell, I think I'm going to go sleep then :)08:28
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james_wanyone know what package https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/213854 should be assigned to?11:11
ubotuLaunchpad bug 213854 in ubuntu "Recent document history is slowing down ubuntu applications." [Undecided,New]11:11
seb128_james_w: gtk+2.0, upstream watch http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48850711:14
ubotuGnome bug 488507 in recent-files "boundless growth of .recently-used.xbel file slows down applications" [Normal,Unconfirmed]11:14
james_wseb128_: thanks!11:17
seb128_you are welcome11:17
james_wI had seen a blog post about it, but I didn't think that was suitable for an upstream watch.11:17
james_wyou use triaged for bugs forwarded upstream?11:18
seb128_james_w: yes, assign to desktop-bugs and set the bug to triaged11:22
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james_wI don't have the power to set triaged, could you do that please?11:24
seb128james_w: settings updated11:25
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james_wthanks11:25
seb128you are welcome11:26
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IulianHey13:15
pedro_hello Iulian13:16
IulianHi pedro13:19
qensehello14:25
joumetalHello. I just reported bug 213973 How could I make it better?15:28
ubotuLaunchpad bug 213973 in ubuntu "Wrong keyboard layout after LTS upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21397315:28
qenseI'll have a look at it15:36
qenseI think I get it15:37
qenseWhere you asked during the upgrade to overwrite a configuration file with a newer one?15:37
joumetalyes I think so.15:38
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qensehow do you ping the ops?15:40
qense!spam15:40
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qenseI don't want to see his naked ex15:41
qenseping Seveas: spam!15:41
qensejoumetal: you've probably replaced your old xorg.conf15:42
qenseyou can change your keyboard settings back with this command15:42
qense:15:42
qensesudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg15:42
qenseplease execute it in the terminal15:42
joumetalI tried already. It didn't work. console layout is also wrong.15:43
qense:(15:43
qenseFinnish don't use qwerty?15:44
qenseyou could just copy and paste the command15:44
joumetalIt's qwerty but there are some special letters like ä and ö.15:47
qenseok15:51
qensebut you can't type in the terminal, not even in english?15:51
joumetalEnglish works well.15:52
qenseok15:53
qenseso you could try to change your keyboard layout back in the terminla15:53
qensethis can be done by executing the following command in the terminal:15:54
qensesudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg15:54
qenseif you don't know what to enter, press enter and the current/default value will be used15:54
joumetalreconfiguring xserver-xorg doesn't make any difference.15:59
joumetalreconfiguring console-data helps until next boot.16:00
qensecould you paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf at pastebin.ubuntu.com?16:01
joumetalpastebin.ubuntu.com/662416:05
bdmurrayqense: ping16:33
qensehello16:33
bdmurrayI saw there was some discussion on Saturday regarding bug assignment and bug expiration.16:34
qenseyes16:34
qensebugs don't expire when someone's assigned to it16:34
bdmurrayThat is correct however auto expiration isn't enabled yet16:34
qenseyou should mark a bug to expire?16:35
qensethe wiki page needs some more information about this subject I think16:35
bdmurrayWhen you see a bug that says "It will expire in 60 days" - it really won't expire at 60 days.16:35
qensethat's weird16:36
bdmurrayKind of there were some issues for bug expiration so it was turned off.16:36
qenseok16:37
qenseso we'll just wait until it works again?16:38
bdmurrayIn regards to bug assignment the documentation regarding assigning Incomplete bugs yourself was written when there was no way in Launchpad to find bugs you are susbscribed too.  Since there is and assignment blocks expiration I've updated the wiki to say to subscribe to the bug.16:39
qenseok16:40
qenseso no more assigning until you're actually working on fixing the bug :)16:40
bdmurrayThat is the preferred workflow yes.16:40
bdmurrayIn regards to bug expiration there is a report for bugs that can expire but caution should be used when closing these bug reports.16:41
qensetrue16:41
qensebut I need to go, dinner :)16:42
qensethanks for the clarification16:42
bdmurrayDoes anybody think sending mail to the team about those two items is a good idea?16:42
greg-gnot sure about the auto-expire, but I'm still confused why people keep bringing up the assign/subscribe issue.  Because sometimes it is a new person that asks that question.16:43
greg-g(ie: not someone who has been around long enough to remember the old instructions)16:44
bdmurrayI found one wiki page, yesterday, that said to assign and updated it.16:44
greg-gahh, good, what page was that?16:44
greg-gbdmurray: topic of the page is fine, if you are having trouble finding the actual page16:45
bdmurrayUm, maybe Bugs/Status16:45
greg-ginteresting16:46
bdmurrayYeah, not updating it was my oversight16:46
greg-gah, gotcha16:46
bdmurrayHmm, it must have been me since I'm the only whose edited that page16:47
bdmurrayAnyway its fixed now16:48
greg-gheh16:48
affluxmorning16:50
bdmurraymorning afflux16:50
affluxheay bdmurray16:51
bdmurrayHmm, I can't recreate bug 21242516:56
ubotuLaunchpad bug 212425 in ubuntu "Desktop selector does not change on having positioned a file on" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21242516:56
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thekornwhy should the active desktop change when I drag a file over the selector?17:00
bdmurrayI'm not certain why but it does for me.17:01
bdmurraypedro_: Any thoughts?17:01
thekornbdmurray, I think the bug here is that it does not work when I drag a window over the selector17:01
thekornboth does not work for me17:02
pedro_bdmurray: looking17:02
bdmurraythekorn: I'd agree with the window bit17:02
pedro_bdmurray: well it does it for me with metacity, haven't tried with compiz17:04
pedro_a sec17:04
calcbdmurray: btw OOo now uses lpi binary instead of urls, so we get apport stuff :)17:05
pedro_yeah another compiz + libwnck integration bug17:05
pedro_bdmurray: it doesn't work with compiz, sounds to me like a known bug but can't remember the number right now17:05
pedro_assign it to libwnck if you want to17:06
bdmurraypedro_: alright thanks!17:06
pedro_you're welcome :-)17:06
qenseback17:11
affluxhuh, I can't access the first five bugs on the bugday list (except the marked one)17:20
bdmurraySorry about that. ;)17:20
qenseah, it's bugday of course!17:21
affluxhow does that happen? No subscribers? :P17:21
qenseI completely forgot!17:21
affluxqense: same for me17:21
affluxdid no bugs for the last two days :(17:22
bdmurrayafflux: It's possible somebody unsubscribed the crash reporting team I think17:22
affluxvandalism?17:23
qenseI've never seen any real vandalism at LP, it would be a shame when we would get trouble with it too17:24
affluxexactly what I think. btw, I've read on the lp-users ML that some bugs are subject of spam.17:25
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bdmurrayI can see bug 212937 now17:31
ubotuBug 212937 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/212937 is private17:31
affluxme too17:32
bdmurrayIt looks like we just got subscribed to it17:33
affluxdoes it? The activity log shows 16:29 I thought this was my local time rather than UTC.17:33
bdmurrayafflux: what TZ are you?  mine says 16:29 too17:34
affluxI'm currently in UTC+217:35
bdmurrayhmm, something is wrong with LP then17:35
bdmurraydate-updated: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:29:49 -000017:35
bdmurray^- thats from the +text page17:35
qenseat GMT+1 I also get 16:2917:35
bdmurrayOr maybe it is FF317:36
qenseit's the same in epiphany17:37
affluxnixternal: around? I think bug 194317, bug 141418, bug 206659 and bug 211936 are duplicates, what do you think? (Especially the first two)17:40
ubotuBug 194317 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/194317 is private17:40
ubotuLaunchpad bug 141418 in kdelibs "klauncher crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/14141817:40
ubotuBug 206659 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/206659 is private17:40
ubotuBug 211936 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/211936 is private17:40
afflux(btw. 141418 has ~300 subscribers, which is ~130 more than bug 1:))17:48
ubotuLaunchpad bug 1 in ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117:48
bdmurraythat's fascinating17:49
affluxI scrolled the lists of comments and suddendly I noticed: huh, still the subscribers on the left column? wow.17:49
joumetalis bug 213973 duplicate of bug 213566?17:50
ubotuLaunchpad bug 213973 in ubuntu "Wrong keyboard layout after LTS upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21397317:50
ubotuLaunchpad bug 213566 in xkeyboard-config "dapper->hardy missing files on upgrade" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21356617:50
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affluxanyone with some video/movie experience for bug 162664? I'm unable to confirm any issues, mplayer/totem/vlc looks all nice in my compiz.18:19
ubotuLaunchpad bug 162664 in vlc "no video output module play nice with Compiz" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/16266418:19
sbarjolain sound bug report without enough info, should request it, but what package can assign?19:07
bdmurraysbarjola: It depends on the kernel version19:07
sbarjolabut maybe cannot be a kernel bug related?19:10
bdmurrayFor the most part sound bugs are driver issues19:11
sbarjolathen could be linux-ubuntu-modules package?19:13
bdmurrayIt depends on the driver.19:14
sbarjolaok, thanks19:14
greg-gbdmurray.answer($question_for_bdmurray){ return $answer = "Depends";}19:18
greg-g;)19:18
greg-gso true though, tis why triaging is fun, each one is a little game to figure out19:19
bdmurraysbarjola: what bug is it?19:19
sbarjolabug 20449119:20
ubotuLaunchpad bug 204491 in ubuntu "Lost sound after upgrading from Fiesty to Hardy Alpha 6 w/ motherboard (ECS K7S5A) based sound SiS 735 chipset" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20449119:20
_myrtille_hi :)19:21
_myrtille_james_w: still working on bringing the robots-bug to hardy. ;) Is there a possibility to create my own livecd, gnome-games is not part of the default livecd19:23
affluxI think bug 190931 and bug 141418 look like they are duplicates. What do you think?19:23
ubotuBug 190931 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/190931 is private19:23
ubotuLaunchpad bug 141418 in kdelibs "klauncher crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/14141819:23
bdmurraysbarjola: I would assign that to the kernel for Hardy which is 2.6.24 however they seem to be running an old kernel.  The current one is 2.6.24-15.19:24
james_w_myrtille_: I'm sure it's on there.19:27
james_w_myrtille_: ah, but I bet you are looking at the kubuntu one aren't you?19:28
james_w_myrtille_: you can run the live cd and connect to the internet and install gnome-games19:28
_myrtille_kk :D19:28
_myrtille_i'll do that then :D19:29
_myrtille_bb19:29
JontheEchidnaHello, I'd like to help out with bugs19:30
IulianJontheEchidna: Welcome! Please have a look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs19:33
JontheEchidnaOk19:35
bdmurrayPlease let us know if you have any questions19:35
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JontheEchidnaOh, today is a hug day19:45
_myrtille_james_w still no luck :(19:45
_myrtille_seems there are unmet dependencies :/19:45
_myrtille_james_w ok so finally managed to force install :) Crash does not happen :)19:58
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JontheEchidnaWhat does the "triaged" status that some bugs have mean?20:37
pedro_JontheEchidna: triaged means that the report contains enough information for a developer to start work on it20:38
JontheEchidnabut that it has not been confirmed?20:39
pedro_that's a little different20:39
pedro_triaged can only be set by the members of the ubuntu-bugcontrol team20:39
JontheEchidnaah20:39
pedro_while anyone can confirm bugs20:39
pedro_ideally confirm means that someone else is having the same problem than the reporter20:40
pedro_and that person confirm the bug of the original reporter20:40
pedro_if someone outside the bugcontrol team thinks it contains enough info to be looked by a developer, the status can be confirmed also20:41
pedro_there's a lot of information about bug status here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status20:41
JontheEchidnathanks20:42
pedro_you're welcome20:42
affluxieh, I gut a email from kubuntu-devel-owner@lists.ubuntu.com about not being allowed to post there. The attached message is a copy of the changes email I produced because of marking duplicates in LP.21:05
secretlondonafflux: this happens when people subscribe a closed team to a bug21:28
bdmurrayWhat happens?21:31
secretlondonbdmurray: you get bounces from email lists21:31
secretlondonit was a response to:21:31
secretlondon<afflux> ieh, I gut a email from kubuntu-devel-owner@lists.ubuntu.com about not being allowed to post there. The attached message is a copy of the changes email I produced because of marking duplicates in LP.21:32
bdmurrayAh, cool I was thinking about something else.21:32
blueyedIs there a tool to create the Launchpad cookie text files, as used by python-launchpad-bugs and described at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess/ppaput (curl calls)?22:04
cba-daugustinehello23:02
bdmurraycba-daugustine: hello23:04
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