| ubotu | New bug: #213669 in xorg (main) "[Hardy] Caps Lock causes keys to repeat" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/213669 | 00:30 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #213617 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24 (main) "package linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-14-generic None failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1 (dup-of: 149836)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/213617 | 02:16 |
| ubotu | New bug: #213700 in xorg-server (main) "X.org + compiz crashes on nautilus file drag" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/213700 | 02:29 |
| ubotu | New bug: #213734 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "firefox-3.0 scrolls jerkily with ATI driver, EXA and compiz" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/213734 | 04:31 |
| ubotu | New bug: #200429 in mesa-utils "XIO: fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0.0" " [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/200429 | 04:37 |
| bryce | I've written up this section on troubleshooting missing keyboard mappings in X: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting#head-1125c10247cf42e51d6329403e00d89af20fad32 | 05:09 |
| bryce | however I'm still a bit sketchy on the whole thing, and the docs may be incorrect. I'd greatly appreciate review/critique feedback to make it more correct. | 05:10 |
| Ng | bryce: do you happen to know how acpi_fakekey sends events? I've been trying to get the ThinkVantage key on my thinkpad going. acpid calls the script which runs fakekey, but things like xev see no event | 08:20 |
| bryce | Ng, sadly, everything I know at this point about key mapping is listed in that above link | 08:21 |
| Ng | ok, I'll have a read anyway :) | 08:22 |
| bryce | I guess you'd look at what acpi_fakekey does to fake keys. | 08:22 |
| Ng | it seems to open the first /dev/input event device it can find and write to that | 08:22 |
| bryce | unfortunately the post from mjg59 that mentioned acpi-based keys just said "send me info about this and we'll get it fixed" without details of *how* they get fixed | 08:23 |
| Ng | I thought that was where the problem was because event0 is my trackpoint, but hardcoding it to the keyboard device didn't seem to make any difference | 08:23 |
| Ng | I could try and badger matt :) | 08:23 |
| bryce | have you spoken with matthew about it? | 08:23 |
| bryce | heh yeah | 08:23 |
| bryce | see if you can get a good detailed description of the troubleshooting approach, so we can feed it into that link for when we run into this in the future | 08:23 |
| Ng | not yet unfortunately, I've had bigger fish to fry | 08:24 |
| Ng | getting suspend and audio working won out over a little button ;) | 08:24 |
| bryce | hehe | 08:24 |
| Ng | I don't even need it, I used to use it to lock the screen, but my new laptop has a Fn key combination for that. it's just the principle of the thing at this point ;) | 08:25 |
| pwnguin | bryce: about that keymapping thing | 08:27 |
| pwnguin | is a tty console nessecary? | 08:27 |
| pwnguin | i guess not | 08:28 |
| pwnguin | ive done hotkey in the past, but sorta petered out about what to do from there =/ | 08:28 |
| bryce | pwnguin: dunno; several pages I read were adamant about that | 08:29 |
| pwnguin | i wonder if maybe its because a tty means you wont get keyboard events from a local keyboard | 08:30 |
| pwnguin | oh my | 08:32 |
| pwnguin | someone fixed one of my tablet buttons | 08:32 |
| bryce | tjaalton: any reasons why not to commit the patch on bug 184651? | 08:50 |
| ubotu | New bug: #205821 in moblin-applets (universe) "[Hardy+PPA]:Network manager icon is blank on statusbar and it shows "Network manager is not running" when click the blank icon though internet connection is good (dup-of: 199486)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/205821 | 08:51 |
| tjaalton | bryce: no, and I actually have it on my tree | 08:53 |
| bryce | ok cool | 08:53 |
| tjaalton | should start pushing stuff later today | 08:54 |
| bryce | (I was just reviewing http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/Xorg/status_current.html and noticed it) | 08:54 |
| bryce | heh, clicking back through <prev> on that shows that things are definitely getting better | 08:54 |
| tjaalton | wow, history :) | 08:55 |
| * bryce resists graphing | 08:56 | |
| pwnguin | so total xorg bugs is total active bugs | 08:58 |
| tjaalton | there's probably something missing since the packagebugs page shows 1512 bugs (or is it lp search lying again) | 08:58 |
| tjaalton | pwnguin: yes, pick any ;) | 08:58 |
| pwnguin | heh | 08:58 |
| tjaalton | it has gone down from 1800+ since early December | 08:59 |
| bryce | yeah, it may be that lp is lying | 08:59 |
| pwnguin | and has gone nowhere since bryce started keeping that history ;) | 08:59 |
| james_w | hey bryce | 08:59 |
| bryce | heya | 08:59 |
| james_w | did you get any time to look at the patches? | 08:59 |
| tjaalton | well I've been catching up with real work so no time to do bug triage :) | 09:00 |
| bryce | james_w: nope, keyboard stuff consumed all my time | 09:00 |
| james_w | no problem, just didn't want to repeat any work. | 09:00 |
| * bryce nods | 09:00 | |
| james_w | I've got an SRU I should get done today, but then I should be able to spend all my time on them. | 09:00 |
| * bryce nods | 09:00 | |
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| === seb128_ is now known as seb128 | ||
| ubotu | New bug: #46904 in xkeyboard-config (main) "several keyboard layouts are listed several times" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/46904 | 10:52 |
| ubotu | New bug: #213856 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "Windows and desktops flicker and flash black with Compiz enabled with the Intel video driver (945GM)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/213856 | 11:10 |
| === seb128_ is now known as seb128 | ||
| ubotu | New bug: #204736 in mesa-utils "glxinfo crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/204736 | 12:25 |
| ubotu | New bug: #134466 in ubuntu "ipw3945d causing computer to stutter (dup-of: 48395)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134466 | 12:28 |
| ubotu | New bug: #213891 in xorg (main) "Xorg crashes when I visit a page in Mozilla Firefox" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/213891 | 12:36 |
| james_w | seb128: hi, the current libgnome-desktop in the archive has "#error This is not for general consumption yet." in the xrandr stuff, was this intentional? | 16:56 |
| james_w | I can't compile against it currently. | 16:56 |
| seb128 | james_w: what do you mean? | 16:56 |
| seb128 | compile what? | 16:57 |
| james_w | the xrandr patches in -desktop currently have | 16:57 |
| james_w | +#ifndef I_KNOW_THIS_IS_UNSTABLE_AND_ONLY_IN_FEDORA | 16:57 |
| james_w | +#error This is not for general consumption yet. | 16:57 |
| james_w | +#endif | 16:57 |
| seb128 | right | 16:57 |
| seb128 | the API is not public and not meant to be used | 16:58 |
| james_w | so I now try and g-c-c against them without defining that, as bryce's instructions say, and it obviously fails. | 16:58 |
| seb128 | ok | 16:58 |
| james_w | so do we want to keep that in all of them, or strip it out of all of them? | 16:58 |
| seb128 | so I did use the patch from redhat because I didn't know bryce did cleaning there | 16:58 |
| seb128 | I mean I used to stack patch | 16:58 |
| seb128 | since he put other ubuntu changes to different patches I though he did that for all the ubuntu changes | 16:59 |
| james_w | ah, ok. | 16:59 |
| seb128 | so fix it the way you think it's better | 16:59 |
| seb128 | but don't make it public | 16:59 |
| seb128 | either use this define | 16:59 |
| seb128 | or rename it to use FEDORA_AND_UBUNTU or something | 16:59 |
| james_w | I'll just keep it as it is I guess, and keep the define in g-c-c | 17:00 |
| seb128 | alright | 17:00 |
| seb128 | did bryce just dropped it before? | 17:00 |
| james_w | yeah, there's a patch in his bzr repo to remove these defines. | 17:04 |
| seb128 | ok | 17:07 |
| seb128 | I think that's wrong to make the api public | 17:07 |
| james_w | the updated patch seems to work, but is says "Cloned output" for my single screen, I'll look in to that. | 17:28 |
| james_w | hmm, "<property name="label" translatable="yes">Mirror Screens (the clone wars)</property>" | 17:29 |
| james_w | I guess we want to change that? | 17:29 |
| seb128 | remove the "(the clone wars)" I guess yes ;-) | 17:36 |
| seb128 | james_w: could you also include the change on bug #213134 while you are working on the update? | 17:37 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 213134 in gnome-control-center "Untranslated strings in Monitor Resolution Settings window" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/213134 | 17:37 |
| seb128 | james_w: also better to get the updated patch as soon as possible and look at small issues later so the strings can be imported in launchpad and translated | 17:37 |
| seb128 | we can still do an another upload to fix issues | 17:38 |
| seb128 | the g-c-c part is only a capplet so it'll not make system unusable | 17:38 |
| james_w | sure, it looks ok to me in a quick test apart from the naming issue, and that looks like it is -desktop anyway. | 17:39 |
| seb128 | naming? | 17:40 |
| james_w | calling my screen a "Cloned output" | 17:40 |
| seb128 | ah | 17:42 |
| ted1 | bryce: So I was playing with OSX... (how to start a conversation with people already scared) | 17:59 |
| ted1 | When you close the lid on your computer with an external monitor plugged in, it switches off the laptop panel and goes exclusively to the external display. | 18:00 |
| ted1 | Would it be possible to do something like that with the XRandR stuff? | 18:00 |
| jcristau | it is, if you get acpi or key events when you close the lid | 18:01 |
| ted1 | Well, we can emit a DBUS signal, which would probably be more reliable. | 18:04 |
| ted1 | Let GPM handle all the other stuff. | 18:04 |
| bryce | morning | 18:06 |
| * ted1 is going to let bryce get coffee before harassing him more :) | 18:07 | |
| bryce | james_w: have you gotten to gnome-desktop yet? if not, I'll work on that today | 18:07 |
| james_w | bryce: no, I haven't | 18:08 |
| james_w | http://jameswestby.net/scratch/g-c-c.diff is the g-c-c one | 18:08 |
| james_w | if you have a moment can you tell me whether I am looking in the right place for the "Cloned Screen" problem? | 18:08 |
| james_w | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6627/ | 18:09 |
| james_w | line 22 looks like it should be "if", not "else if" to me. | 18:10 |
| james_w | as clone_width is initialised to -1 at the start of the function. | 18:10 |
| bryce | hmm | 18:12 |
| bryce | are you running into a bug because of this? | 18:12 |
| james_w | the capplet shows "Cloned Output" for my single screen, which seems wrong. | 18:12 |
| bryce | ok, fwiw, that "clone wars" line has been there since the earliest days of the dialog - it was part of the mockup iirc | 18:13 |
| bryce | however until recently the underlying handling code wasn't implemented | 18:13 |
| bryce | so in the previous version I just stripped out the checkbox | 18:13 |
| bryce | however I understand the clone stuff is implemented, so maybe the checkbox works now | 18:13 |
| james_w | ah, ok. I still don't see the checkbox | 18:13 |
| james_w | I assumed that was because I only have a single screen, but maybe I need to update a patch | 18:14 |
| bryce | in any case I think the "(the clone wars)" bit needs to be removed ;-) | 18:15 |
| james_w | I don't see it being stripped out in any of the patches. | 18:15 |
| james_w | I made it "Clone Screens", what do you think? | 18:15 |
| bryce | probably ok | 18:16 |
| bryce | our usability guy suggested something different, I'll see if I can find it | 18:16 |
| james_w | mirror made it sound like you would get a mirror image on one to me | 18:17 |
| bryce | >> * Is there an alternative wording for "Mirror another screen" that | 18:17 |
| bryce | >> doesn't imply reflection? | 18:17 |
| bryce | > | 18:17 |
| bryce | > 'Clone' is the official term. I used 'mirror' since that has been used | 18:17 |
| bryce | > in one of the displayconfig-gtk mockups. | 18:17 |
| bryce | Perhaps "Copy of". | 18:17 |
| bryce | I think I like "Clone" better than "Copy" but either's probably better than mirror | 18:18 |
| james_w | yep | 18:18 |
| bryce | oh here's a more recent suggestion from him, I hadn't implemented yet... | 18:19 |
| bryce | Button labels should always use Initial Capitals. :-) Nice work otherwise. | 18:19 |
| bryce | Cheers | 18:19 |
| bryce | ted1: you could probably make the xrandr calls from the power manager to make that happen | 18:21 |
| ted1 | bryce: But, it's not crazy? | 18:23 |
| bryce | a little crazy | 18:23 |
| bryce | but not too much | 18:23 |
| ted1 | Hmph. | 18:23 |
| ted1 | So how do I know which display is the laptop LCD and which one is external? | 18:24 |
| bryce | it'll result in weird stuff like gnome panels getting jumbled up, random crashes, weird interactions with sleep modes/Xv/Compiz, and so on, but those are par for the course | 18:24 |
| jcristau | ted1: you probably don't know, but you can guess | 18:25 |
| ted1 | I work on the desktop team, we assume that X is perfect :) | 18:25 |
| jcristau | haha | 18:25 |
| bryce | it seems the standard way is to look for something named "*LVDS*" | 18:25 |
| bryce | or, /LVDS/i | 18:26 |
| ted1 | I guess, it would seem unlikely that someone would use LVDS externally. | 18:27 |
| ted1 | But are there panels that internally don't use LVDS? | 18:28 |
| bryce | not afaik | 18:28 |
| jcristau | ted1: the naming comes from the X driver | 18:28 |
| ted1 | Oh, so it's not really describing the hardware, more the driver port. | 18:28 |
| ted1 | Okay, I'm going to think about this more, but I think it's something I'd like to figure out for Ibex. | 18:31 |
| ted1 | Thanks for the info. | 18:32 |
| bryce | ted1: I'd suggest making it opt-in for Intrepid, since xrandr is still fairly unstable on some hardware. once there's been sufficient testing it could be switched on by default by intrepid+1. | 18:35 |
| bryce | ted1: or if you really want to flip it on by default, do it only for intel gfx hardware; that one is furthest along and has the fewest remaining issues | 18:36 |
| jcristau | there are issues with radeon randr? | 18:36 |
| jcristau | i haven't really followed that, as my laptop is intel :) | 18:40 |
| bryce | jcristau: I consistently get lockups when rotating. Also some minor issues switching resolutions | 18:48 |
| jcristau | too bad | 18:49 |
| tjaalton | <jawdrop> "VIA Joins The Open Driver Bandwagon" | 19:08 |
| tjaalton | about time | 19:08 |
| mvo | bryce: when we talked about bug #213566 you mentioned that there are no maintainer scripts involved, but it seems the xkb-data.preinst is doing some stuff at least to those links | 19:12 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 213566 in xkeyboard-config "dapper->hardy missing files on upgrade" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/213566 | 19:12 |
| bryce | tjaalton: heh, link? | 19:21 |
| bryce | BenC and I have been talking with them privately and encouraging them to open everything; good to see they have done so officially | 19:22 |
| tjaalton | bryce: it was mentioned on phoronix (where else) | 19:23 |
| ubotu | New bug: #214092 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "Suspend to RAM fails in second resume cycle for Hardy, fglrx, ATI Mobility Radeon 9700" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/214092 | 19:31 |
| * mvo is currently pretty lost with that bug | 19:38 | |
| ubotu | New bug: #214105 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "Freeze with ati driver during boot on 8.04" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/214105 | 19:41 |
| bryce | tjaalton: hrm, I've been pushing them to get in contact with the openchrome community. Too bad there's no mention of that there. | 19:46 |
| bryce | but I guess it's still early | 19:47 |
| tjaalton | or they want to start from scratch :) | 19:58 |
| tjaalton | YAVD | 19:58 |
| ubotu | New bug: #214119 in xserver-xorg-video-amd (main) "[HARDY] Koolu W.E. (ION A603) does not detect higher resolution than 800x600" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/214119 | 20:06 |
| Q-FUNK | guys, any objection remaining to sync'ing geode from debian? | 21:00 |
| ubotu | New bug: #214165 in xorg (main) "[Hardy] After upgrade today can't detect screen size" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/214165 | 21:01 |
| ubotu | New bug: #214168 in xorg (main) "video acceleration broken with .810 driver in Hardy Beta" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/214168 | 21:27 |
| ubotu | New bug: #214201 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "nvidia-glx-new upgrade bug (gutsy -> hardy)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/214201 | 22:01 |
| ubotu | New bug: #214205 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "upgrade of xserver-xorg-core conficts (gutsy to hardy)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/214205 | 22:10 |
| ubotu | New bug: #214241 in xorg-server (main) "package xserver-xorg-core 2:1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.3 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/214241 | 23:00 |
| ubotu | New bug: #214239 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "package nvidia-glx-new 100.14.19+2.6.22.4-14.10 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/214239 | 23:02 |
| ubotu | New bug: #214252 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics "[Hardy] Synaptics touchpad vertical scroll (middle button) not working as expected" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/214252 | 23:16 |
| tjaalton | bryce: tomorrow I'll upload the pending stuff I have been sitting on.. should have time during the day | 23:32 |
| bryce | ok | 23:32 |
| tjaalton | needed to push vdr first.. anyway, night -> | 23:34 |
| ubotu | New bug: #214270 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "AWN Avant Window Navigator icons corrupted with xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.2.1-1ubuntu11" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/214270 | 23:54 |
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