[00:00] <Coniferous> what was the question Infernalord?
[00:00] <steven__> umm i guess thats why im trying to find out if anyone has succesfully mounted a itouch
[00:00] <jim> it's now possible for anyone here to figure out if they can offer something, because you're meeting their minds with yours
[00:00] <AbortRetryFail> Does anyone here use the ATI fglrx drivers and have screen rotation or dual heads set up?
[00:00] <amenado> soundray-> i cant even add the cdrom,  my  /dev/cdrom  --> scd0  and I cant mount it
[00:00] <steven__> if so how
[00:00] <jim> steven__: but notice the difference between just asking that, and telling what you see, precisely
[00:00] <Infernalord> Coniferous: Well, I have an onboard Intel graphic card, and I have just installed ubuntu, but i can't get better than 800x600 resolution
[00:01] <steven__> jim im saying exactly what i see
[00:01] <jim> yes, you are.
[00:01] <amenado> soundray i did attempt to add an entry on the sources.list ..but it fails its not getting to the cdrom
[00:01] <soundray> amenado: so maybe that link is wrong and your CD drive is really /dev/hdc
[00:02] <amenado> soundray-> there is no /dev/Makedev    to create the /dev/cdrom correctly i assume..
[00:02] <jim> because you're doing that, you're communicating with everyone in what could be considered a normal conversation
[00:02] <Draggin> I'm confused... Since when can you write to NTFS partitions from within Linux...?
[00:02] <AbortRetryFail>  Draggin since ntfs3g came out.
[00:02] <GrueTamer> since ntfs-3g
[00:02] <GrueTamer> ...darn
[00:02] <Slart> Draggin: since ntfs-3g.. it's actually prety good
[00:02] <Draggin> Goodness... And when was that?
[00:03] <dxdt> Draggin: for a while lol
[00:03] <mEck0> Hi! anyone having a HP Compaq 6510b laptop with working suspend and hibernation?
[00:03] <jim> the newer driver becomes ever more flexible... look at the driver source near the top
[00:03] <soundray> amenado: /dev/cdrom is not created by MAKEDEV. It's just a symbolic link. Find out what your cdrom device is -- 'dmesg | grep -i cdrom' might help
[00:03] <Draggin> Like... Months... Years?
[00:03] <Slart> Draggin: a couple of months.. I don't think it was available for edgy...
[00:03] <dxdt> Draggin: since 7.10 came out... so at least from last October
[00:03] <AbortRetryFail> it's been a year or so i think.
[00:03] <steven__> damn apple why cant they just make it work with linux!!!
[00:03] <GrueTamer> since june 06 i believe
[00:04] <GrueTamer> (ntfs-3g)
[00:04] <Draggin> Slart... I'm still dumbfounded... I only noticed the other day that a file on an NTFS partition actually disappeared when I pressed delete...
[00:04] <Draggin> Great stuff though... That actually removes my need for an OS_Swap partition...
[00:04] <Coniferous> Yeah, i was getting tired of that too Draggin
[00:04] <Slart> Draggin: hehe... you just try that every now and then? "yea.. let's try deleting all my important files.. hehehe.. omg!!!"
[00:04] <amenado> soundray it was not finding it, via dmesg |grep cdrom   it finds cd/rw  but it points  to that sr0 which is not same as scd0
[00:04] <AbortRetryFail> hopefully it was kernel32.dll
[00:05] <dda> Can't add a printer - getting "permssion denied" in cups error_log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62470/ - it happened after recent cupsys update. I'm on gutsy..
[00:05] <Coniferous> but you can read and write to ext3 stuff from windows anyways
[00:05] <amenado> soundray, ill have to play with it some more later..haft to answer a call...
[00:05] <soundray> amenado: with a CD in the drive, try 'sudo mount /dev/sr0 /mnt' and see if it mounts.
[00:05] <kgx> hi. im trying to update the contents of a file using sed. this doesnt seem to work: sed 's/oldstuff/newstuff/' inputFileName > inputFileName
[00:05] <Slart> Draggin: I use an external hard drive formatted with ntfs for transfering stuff.. works great
[00:05] <kgx> any ideas whats wrong?
[00:05] <Draggin> Slart... Haha, no... It was actually a file that I wanted to delete, but I didn't immediately realise that it was on an NTFS, until after I deleted it and it didn't give me an error... And I was like... Wait a minute... Where did that just go..?
[00:05] <Coniferous> Haha
[00:05] <alex101> How do i use .exe files in ubuntu?
[00:05] <Starnestommy> kgx: make that 's/oldstuff/newstuff/g'
[00:06] <Starnestommy> alex101: with wine
[00:06] <soundray> kgx: sed -i 's/oldstuff/newstuff/' inputFileName
[00:06] <alex101> How do i install wine?
[00:06] <Slart> alex101: you use wine or an virtual os
[00:06] <Starnestommy> !wine
[00:06] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[00:06] <Slart> !wm
[00:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:06] <Draggin> But doesn't that mean that Windows' file-level security has been completely bypassed?
[00:06] <Slart> !vm
[00:06] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[00:06] <soundray> kgx: and listen to Starnestommy if you want to replace each and every occurrence
[00:06] <Coniferous> I didnt know you could trigger like that.
[00:06] <Slart> Draggin: well.. yes.. but linux doesn't really care about that =)
[00:06] <Coniferous> !irssi
[00:06] <ubotu> Irssi is a terminal based IRC client. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi for help.
[00:07] <Draggin> Slart, true, but aren't the people at MS having a hissy fit?
[00:07] <Draggin> Does Knoppix make use of NTFS-3G?
[00:07] <kgx> soundray: thanks.
[00:07] <Redeye2> well the screen just goes blank now and it comes back just fine. I wonder what is wrong with the Nvidia driver.
[00:07] <Slart> Draggin: not that I've noticed.. ntfs isn't supposed to keep files secure if it's read by another os
[00:07] <kgx> Starnestommy: thanks also :)
[00:07] <manitoba98> If I have an existing Ubuntu install, and I want to add a wireless card (which is supported out-of-the-box by Ubuntu), how can I have Ubuntu detect it? I don't want to reinstall, I just want it to detect this wireless card and add it as a network interface.
[00:07] <Draggin> Because if it does, you could wreak total havoc on a 'secure' Windows system...
[00:08] <Coniferous> Thats the excuse anyways
[00:08] <Slart> Draggin: I don't know about encryption and such.. but regular ntfs file permissions isn't a problem
[00:08] <soundray> manitoba98: it will detect it on the next boot after the hardware installation.
[00:08] <cjae> what I use for mp4 to avi conversion in ubuntu?
[00:08] <Coniferous> manitoba98: it shoudl be fine
[00:08] <cjae> *do
[00:08] <Slart> Draggin: you could do that in any number of ways even without linux
[00:08] <AbortRetryFail> it kind of makes you wonder if you could port ntfs-3g as an IFS for windows and use that to bypass the ACL's
[00:09] <Draggin> Wow... Well... I'm just glad it's at this point... No more booting and rebooting and doing it again to transfer my files between Linux and Windows :)
[00:09] <manitoba98> soundray: So if I put in the system, ath0 will magically appear, it will appear in the network configuration thing in the system tray, etc.? Everything will "just work"?
[00:09] <Slart> Draggin: nothing keeps you from popping the drive into another windows computer and resetting all the permissions
[00:09] <Coniferous> i wonder if windows 7 will release a new fs
[00:09] <Coniferous> i kno there was supposed to be one for vista that they couldnt get out in time
[00:09] <AbortRetryFail> Coniferous: that's one of their big points about windows 7 : WinFS
[00:09] <Draggin> Slart, true, but that's a lot more effort than booting from a live CD and deleting everything on a drive
[00:09] <Starnestommy> !ot
[00:09] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[00:09] <soundray> manitoba98: no promises for an Atheros device, but when I did this with an Intel card, it worked completely magically.
[00:09] <dda> Can't add a printer - getting "permission denied" in cups error_log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62470/ - it happened after recent cupsys update. I'm on gutsy. Please help!
[00:10] <Arky44> hello all
[00:10] <Slart> yes yes.. sorry.. no more windows talk
[00:10] <jim> why pay any attention to windows?
[00:10] <Coniferous> Well, as long as you can continue using ntfs i'm fine...
[00:10] <Coniferous> er yes
[00:10] <AbortRetryFail> lol dunno
[00:10] <AbortRetryFail> because i still can't get my screen to rotate and it's making my neck hurt
[00:10] <Coniferous> we are in the ubuntu channel arent we?
[00:10] <Draggin> Oh sorry... All of that was directed at us...
[00:10] <Coniferous> >>
[00:10] <Coniferous> <<
[00:10] <manitoba98> soundray: It is an Atheros device, but I don't see why it would vary. I didn't realize plug-and-play had come so far. Does this work in 7.04 (Feisty)? I haven't yet updated that machine to 7.10 (Gutsy).
[00:10] <AbortRetryFail> it's bolted to my desk in portrait and the ATI drivers won't rotate it :(
[00:10] <trent1980> manitoba ... if you do run in trouble with an atheros card, try using the ndis wrapper and windows driver
[00:10] <Arky44> Is there a program that can record system sounds for ubuntu (as in sounds playing on the computer, but not necessarily through a microphone)
[00:10] <Arky44> ?
[00:11] <cjae> what  do I use for mp4 to avi conversion in ubuntu?
[00:11] <Draggin> Arky44 - Soundrecorder
[00:11] <jim> find out what kind of file the system sound files have to be
[00:11] <soundray> manitoba98: I don't know, it may or may not work in feisty
[00:11] <Draggin> Arky44 - you can choose the input source
[00:11] <Slart> cjae: mencoder I guess.. it does just about anything
[00:11] <freebooter3> you mkean like audacity or gnusound?
[00:12] <Draggin> Oh yes, Audacity can do it as well
[00:12] <Coniferous> manitoba98: if it doesent you can alyways do an apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:12] <Coniferous> that will upgrade your current install to 7.10
[00:12] <Slart> !info mencoder
[00:12] <ubotu> mencoder (source: mplayer): MPlayer's Movie Encoder. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0~rc1-0ubuntu13.2 (gutsy), package size 3278 kB, installed size 8152 kB
[00:12] <Arky44> Draggin: will sudo apt-get install soundrecorder do the trick?
[00:12] <Coniferous> it wont erase anything
[00:12] <Draggin> Arky44 - I think it's gnome-sound-recorder...
[00:12] <BarryToeman> cjae: ffmpeg
[00:12] <Arky44> ok
[00:13] <maxb> Aren't you supposed to use the special ubuntu tool, not just plain dist-upgrade?
[00:13] <Coniferous> Hum
[00:13] <jim> what would be the effect of using the special tool?
[00:13] <Coniferous> possibly? i've never had a problem with ist-upgrade though... anyone else hve any experence with this?
[00:13] <Felonious> Is it dangerous to format my ubuntu partition if I am running grub to dual boot?
[00:13] <Slart> !upgrade
[00:13] <BarryToeman> cjae: "ffmpeg -i inputvideo.mp4 output.avi" of course there are hundreds of options, but that's the most basic command
[00:13] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[00:14] <cjae> BarryToeman, thanks
[00:14] <trent1980> I have Hardy 8.04 and firefox 2.0 with the flash plugins ... I can't get the sound to use my USB device. The USB device works fine in other applications (skype). I set the default device to USB but Firefox still uses the onboard speakers .... any ideas?
[00:14] <Felonious> as in reformat and reinstall
[00:14] <Slart> Felonious: define dangerous?
[00:14] <maxb> Well, I know that up until Feisty, the UpgradeNotes said "You may use apt-get dist-upgrade, but it's not supported"
[00:14] <Felonious> will I bork my mbr basically
[00:14] <jim> will you lose stuff you want to keep?
[00:14] <BarryToeman> cjae: what codec do you need for your avi file?
[00:14] <billisnice> how do you change the computer default monitor ie-a panosonic c21 to c35?
[00:14] <soundray> Felonious: grub needs your Ubuntu root partition. Deleting it will break booting.
[00:14] <maxb> Then for gutsy, all mention of apt-get in UpgradeNotes disappeared
[00:14] <Coniferous> huh. alright, thats the last time i do that then.
[00:15] <Felonious> great... so what do I do if I want to format that partition?
[00:15] <Slart> Felonious: not sure really..  I suppose it could break booting.. but not beyond repair
[00:15] <cjae> BarryToeman, divx
[00:15] <Draggin> Felonius - If you only format the Ubuntu partitions and don't touch Windows / whatever else to reinstall Ubuntu on the same partitions, you shouldn't have any problem
[00:15] <larry_> anyone know how to get adobe flash player using sudo apt - get
[00:15] <Slart>  larry_: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[00:15] <soundray> Felonious: install the bootloader of whatever system is still on the drive
[00:16] <Slart> !flashplugin_nonfree
[00:16] <soundray> Draggin: that's not correct ( Felonious)
[00:16] <larry_> ok thanks
[00:16] <Slart> !info flashplugin_nonfree
[00:16] <ubotu> Package flashplugin_nonfree does not exist in gutsy
[00:16] <LjL> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[00:16] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree (source: flashplugin-nonfree): Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.48.0.2+really0ubuntu12.2 (gutsy), package size 17 kB, installed size 156 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia)
[00:16] <Slart> oh.. nevermind that then
[00:16] <Draggin> soundray - it's not?
[00:16] <Felonious> Hmmmm... does windows have a boot loader?
[00:16] <Felonious> xp pro
[00:16] <Slart> ah.. typo.. thanks LjL
[00:16] <LjL> Felonious: or it wouldn't boot
[00:16] <elmer> So I am on a Windows laptop right now. With a Ubuntu Desktop next to me
[00:16] <elmer> and I can't get my wifi to work
[00:17] <elmer> I moved my PC to an ethernet cable
[00:17] <soundray> Draggin: no, the grub MBR needs access to the advanced grub stages, which by default are in /boot/grub in the Ubuntu root partition
[00:17] <elmer> then installed
[00:17] <CloudFX> what app can I use to burn an .iso?
[00:17] <soundray> !burniso | CloudFX
[00:17] <ubotu> CloudFX: To burn an ISO image of a CD in Linux, Mac OS or Windows, read the howto at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[00:17] <elmer> then set up my wifi according to this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=296822
[00:17] <cjae> BarryToeman, will ffmpeg do divx
[00:17] <Felonious> Maybe I should look into how grub would be removed
[00:17] <Draggin> soundray, fine, but he said he wants to reinstall, so the installer will replace everything again, not?
[00:17] <CloudFX> ty
[00:17] <Felonious> correct?
[00:17] <elmer> I unplugged the cable and the wifi worked
[00:18] <elmer> I shut down, moved the PC back and now the wifi does not work
[00:18] <Felonious> well I may go with a different distro/build/etc
[00:18] <elmer> Does anybody know what is wrong?
[00:18] <Felonious> so I dont want to be stuck with... use what I got or else
[00:18] <Vareg> Hey there everyone
[00:18] <amenado> elmer how many nic card does your pc have? both wireless and ethernet?
[00:18] <jim> Felonious: sure, and maybe first you could look into all the ways grub can be installed
[00:18] <BarryToeman> cjae: I'm not sure.  I don't use divx.  I'll look.
[00:18] <soundray> Felonious: Draggin is right: if you're installing a new system, Ubuntu's grub will just be flattened by whatever bootloader that system installs.
[00:19] <trent1980> anyone know how to get mozilla to use USB speakers instead of the laptop speakers? in "system - pref - sound" i have them all set to usb and all apps work fine accept firefox flash (youtube) still uses onboard speakers ... help?
[00:19] <elmer> amenado, it has built in ethernet and a PCI wifi card
[00:19] <Vareg> Is there a sound support channel in our IRC?
[00:19] <Arky44> Draggin: hey again
[00:19] <cjae> BarryToeman, trying to read the man page online right now cause on win box
[00:19] <Draggin> Arky44 - hey.  Did you manage?
[00:19] <wpk> Vareg: what sound?
[00:19] <wpk> #alsa?
[00:19] <Felonious> Ok... but what happenes between me removing OS and reinstalling?
[00:19] <amenado> elmer and you have both of them connected to same router/gateway/AP ?
[00:19] <Felonious> am I going to be not able to boot?
[00:19] <DKong> does anybody know of a good web based inventory system
[00:19] <Vareg> I'm trying to get my Laptop's speakers to work in Ubuntu 7.10
[00:19] <Arky44> Draggin: i have tried changing the input, and i can barely hear what is recording (it's mostly static)
[00:19] <elmer> amenado, I did, but I unplugged the ethernet and restarted
[00:19] <freebooter3> What do you guys recommend for partitioning a new ubuntu install? like 8 gigs for the file system and rest partition for home? what else?
[00:19] <soundray> Felonious: you can format the Ubuntu partition as part of the installation process of the new system. Then it won't matter.
[00:20] <Vareg> I've read through the support thread
[00:20] <freebooter3> say on a 100 gig drive?
[00:20] <Draggin> Arky44...  Hmmm... I'm afraid I don't know the app well... Give me a minute or two and let me see what I can get out of it
[00:20] <Arky44> Draggin: thanks :)
[00:20] <Felonious> I guess what I was looking for was a clear cut way to just remove ubuntu and grub
[00:20] <amenado> elmer only have one nic card connected to same router otherwise you have to know how to make the route table work..only work with one nic at a time
[00:20] <Coniferous> anyone here use irssi?
[00:20] <Felonious> but it seems that doesnt exist
[00:21] <Vareg> But I'm really new to Linux, so I don't know what I'm doing
[00:21] <e|mer> amenado, sorry about that. WiFi crapped out on laptop
[00:21] <soundray> freebooter3: give it some swap space, too. RAM size + 10% is a good formula for large RAM & if you would hibernate
[00:21] <jim> Felonious: perhaps that depends on how it is installed (there are two or three pieces one of which is the boot sector which could be on the mbr)... the different pieces can be in different places on your drive, and they are more or less vulnerable to overwriting depending on where they are
[00:21] <MOARPaRaSiTe> 32bit or 64bit?  I've heard people say both, I can't decide.
[00:21] <soundray> Felonious: well, it's not necessary.
[00:21] <Vareg> Like, this is my first linux install
[00:21] <amenado> elmer-> its okay, since you are just starting, work with only one nic at a time
[00:21] <xs142> Is there any way to just reset Everything in ubuntu to the original settings, like uninstalling all extra packages etc?
[00:21] <e|mer> amenado, OK, I will
[00:21] <Vareg> wpk: Do you have some time to help me? I'd understand if you can't.
[00:21] <jim> Felonious: and also depending on where the overwriter is overwriting
[00:21] <Felonious> why wouldnt it be necessary?  What if I hated ubuntu and wanted to just remove it and never look back?
[00:21] <Felonious> Not saying thats the case
[00:22] <freebooter3> Thanks soundray
[00:22] <e|mer> amenado, when I iwconfig, it shows that nothing is up
[00:22] <up_the_irons> i'm trying to backport a package from gutsy to dapper (libonig2).  Having trouble during the build, is there a channel esp. for ubuntu package builders?
[00:22] <DKong> does anybody know of a good web based inventory system
[00:22] <Felonious> but there are people out there who may want to do that
[00:22] <amenado> elmer-> paste your ifconfig; iwconfig; route -n and cat /etc/resolv.conf
[00:22] <Arky44> Felonious: can you boot to windows?
[00:22] <soundray> Felonious: then you'd reinstall the bootloader of whatever system you are going back to
[00:22] <ahave>  would anyone care to offer advise on how i can further debug my sata issue with ubuntu? I can not seem to read SATA1, or SATA2 with or without AHCI..I get alot of 'unknown devices' in lspci, could it be that i am lacking a needed driver?
[00:22] <alex101> I have installed Wine, now how do i open the .exe files?
[00:22] <Felonious> does windows have a bootloader?
[00:22] <BarryToeman> cjae: if the mp4 file is also using the divx codec you can just put that into an avi container.
[00:22] <amenado> elmer on pastebin okay? not here on the channel
[00:22] <jim> otherwise it couldn't boot. yes.
[00:22] <soundray> Felonious: how else would  it boot, if not  with a bootloader? :)
[00:23] <freebooter3> right click the file and select open with wine...or cd to it and type wine programname.exe
[00:23] <BarryToeman> cjae: ffmpeg will tell you the codec and container of a file: ffmpeg -i input.avi
[00:23] <prettyricky> for bootloader I use acronis director suite 10, you can probably find it ain a torerent site
[00:23] <Felonious> basically what I want to do is upgrade to hardy when it goes public
[00:23] <prettyricky> torrent**
[00:23] <Felonious> but I dont want to upgrade from this install
[00:23] <cjae> BarryToeman, how do you tell
[00:23] <e|mer> amenado, sure thing. I just have to type it into my windows box
[00:23] <jim> s/retty//
[00:23] <cjae> BarryToeman, oh I see
[00:23] <Felonious> because it was my first time running linux so I installed a bunch of nonsense
[00:24] <Mathman> DKong: sometimes I take pity on people who are google impaired.  or maybe I just get tired of them asking the same question over and over...
[00:24] <Mathman> DKong: http://www.inventory-management.org/
[00:24] <soundray> Felonious: that's straightforward. You don't need to worry about grub
[00:24] <xs142> How do you get rid of all those things that belonged to a program in Synaptic Package Manager?
[00:24] <DKong> thank you Mathman
[00:24] <prettyricky> If you use acronis that will do the job
[00:24] <cjae> BarryToeman, didn't think .mp4 used that
[00:24] <n-iCe> how do I open a terminal with the keys?
[00:25] <DKong> i was just wondering if ubuntu has something built in t hadnt seen yet
[00:25] <Felonious> googling for uninstall ubuntu was a nightmare...
[00:25] <soundray> Felonious: when you're done with gutsy, backup your data files and any configurations you've put work into. Then shutdown and boot from the hardy installation CD.
[00:25] <cjae> BarryToeman, so .avi and .mp4 are just containing folders
[00:25] <smithey93> hey, how can i change the ubuntu logo in the top left of my screen, there must be a image somewere
[00:25] <Felonious> and it will just overwrite old grub with updated new grub
[00:25] <hexoroid> can anybody tell me why sudo doesnt accept my password ?
[00:25] <BarryToeman> cjae: kind of, .mp4 is the container format that can use various codecs such as h264 and MPEG-4 AVC, MPEG 2, etc
[00:25] <Felonious> ?
[00:26] <hexoroid> i know the root password su - works just fine
[00:26] <Mathman> Felonious: I dunno if you really "uninstall" an OS.  you can delete the thing I suppose...
[00:26] <soundray> Felonious: the installer will offer you options to format the existing partition(s) as you see fit. And, yes, it will update grub in place.
[00:26] <bosanac> Hello i'm running linux ubuntu 7.10 and i need some program to edit the videos ( example: to cut them, to add them a sound and etc... ) can somebody tell me some program please?
[00:26] <Arky44> n-iCe: I don't think there is a default keyboard shortcut for terminal
[00:26] <BarryToeman> bosanac: try kino
[00:26] <Felonious> Ok... Im well versed in everything, just never really toyed with any mbr stuff
[00:26] <cjae> BarryToeman, sorry folder should have said format
[00:26] <GlenQuagmire> bosanac: try kdenlive
[00:26] <Felonious> so i want to be careful
[00:26] <bosanac> no really
[00:26] <bosanac> tell me the best one
[00:26] <bosanac> kdenlive its ok?
[00:26] <GlenQuagmire> bosanac: its pretty cool
[00:27] <Survivorman> !best | bosanac
[00:27] <ubotu> bosanac: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[00:27] <Felonious> I hear kino is good
[00:27] <bosanac> :)
[00:27] <bosanac> hehe
[00:27] <Arky44> n-iCe: go to System > Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts and you can set one for "Run a terminal"
[00:27] <bosanac> ok let me check it :D
[00:27] <PaRaSiTe_Moar> 32bit or 64bit?  Advice?  64bit seems faster, but most apps are made for 32bit, but 64bit is the future and does (or doesn't?) support 32bit apps?
[00:27] <pjv> anyone here successfully made a wifi card into a repeater?
[00:27] <Felonious> Does anyont know an ftp program that supports file drag and drop from file system windows?
[00:27] <smithey93> hey, how can i change the ubuntu logo in the top left of my screen, there must be a image somewere
[00:27] <e|mer> amenado, http://slexy.org/view/s291hS1Fpm
[00:27] <e|mer> amenado, tell me if you need more
[00:27] <Felonious> gftp and filezilla both dont
[00:28] <e|mer> amenado, there is eth0 and lo
[00:28] <Felonious> smithey93,  its in the icon theme you are using
[00:28] <matt__> does anyone know everything about every distro ever? Ok, so all I really want to know: Are the cd, mkdir, and tar commands universal on all distros?
[00:28] <kitche> Felonious: hmm gftp does here but any gui application really does
[00:28] <Draggin> Arky44 - I'm not having much luck either, I'm afraid... Mine keeps locking up...
[00:28] <xs142> Is there any way to just reset Everything in ubuntu to the original settings, like uninstalling all extra packages etc?
[00:28] <BarryToeman> Felonious: Gnome Nautilus does.
[00:28] <Felonious> does not for me
[00:28] <amenado> elmer-> from that, eth0 is not even up?
[00:28] <Felonious> Nautilus?
[00:28] <smithey93> Felonious: have u any idea what folder because theres lots in the tar
[00:28] <Felonious> ill check that out
[00:28] <Survivorman> PaRaSiTe2, that's a judgement call, but for what I use my computer for and to save some headaches, I just use 32 bit and don't really see and difference in most tasks. If I crunched performance numbers, maybe, but in reality, its not noticeable.
[00:28] <Felonious> uhm...
[00:28] <amenado> elmer-> i meant it is up but no ip address assigned?
[00:28] <Mathman> matt__: basically.  every distro I've ever heard of uses gnu stuff as the base.
[00:28] <Felonious> its probably in all the sizes
[00:28] <cjae> matt__, yes
[00:28] <e|mer> amenado, http://slexy.org/view/s2SawNOz9x
[00:29] <Arky44> Draggin: i tried using audacity, and got a similar result
[00:29] <BarryToeman> Felonious: it's just the file browser. in Gnome: Places -> Connect to server.
[00:29] <Felonious> ohhh...
[00:29] <matt__> Mathman: cjae ok....so I should be able to right a "universal" script, right? bash installed on most too?
[00:29] <Arky44> Draggin: i think it might just be my sound card...
[00:29] <trent1980> is there a channel for sound?
[00:29] <amenado> elmer-> ok, no wireless..
[00:29] <Felonious> thats what the file browser I am using is I take it
[00:29] <Varega> crap
[00:29] <up_the_irons> is there a channel for package (.deb) building?
[00:29] <up_the_irons> or backporting?
[00:29] <Varega> I never registered my nickname
[00:29] <ahave>  would anyone care to offer advise on how i can further debug my sata issue with ubuntu? I can not seem to read SATA1, or SATA2 with or without AHCI..I get alot of 'unknown devices' in lspci, could it be that i am lacking a needed driver?
[00:29] <Draggin> Arky44 - sorry about that... I just saw that the app seems to be able to do what you wanted, but when it comes to the sound hardware and settings, I'm still very much in the dark
[00:29] <cjae> matt__, should and yes
[00:29] <e|mer> amenado, it is not even up, I don't think
[00:29] <Varega> What's the command to do that with nickserv?
[00:29] <Mathman> matt__: pretty much.  depending on what the script does.  various things will still live in different places on different distros.
[00:30] <amenado> elmer you just want your eth0 to work? your router/gateway is providing the ip address right? it has a dchp serveR?
[00:30] <Felonious> id prefer a full ftp client personally
[00:30] <matt__> cjae: thank you, now after i write this script, will you help me out?
[00:30] <soundray> matt__: some systems use busybox for basic utilities such as you mention, replacing GNU utilities for space reasons.
[00:30] <matt__> cjae: test it i mean...
[00:30] <Arky44> Draggin: no prob :) I'll keep on truckin' :)
[00:30] <Survivorman> up_the_irons, maybe ubuntu-devel
[00:30] <matt__> soundray: busybox?
[00:30] <jim> Felonious: ftp
[00:30] <up_the_irons> Survivorman: thanks
[00:30] <GlenQuagmire> question , why does the file "/etc/resolv.conf" gets overwritten every reboot ??'
[00:30] <pjv> ahave: did you try to disable acpi?
[00:30] <e|mer> amenado, I am trying to get my WiFi card to work
[00:30] <Draggin> Arky44 - good luck :)  I'm still trying to figure out how to use JACK so I can also start using all the sound stuff on my computer :)
[00:30] <cjae> matt__, NO
[00:30] <pjv> e|mer: what is the chipset of the card?
[00:31] <matt__> cjae: lol, alright
[00:31] <amenado> elmer-> what chip does it have? i hope its not bcm43xx..
[00:31] <e|mer> pjv, RT61
[00:31] <LetsGo67> How do I *disable* PPPoE?
[00:31] <jim> Felonious: but remember that non-anonymous ftp is very insecure, your password can be seen by anyone observing packets
[00:31] <e|mer> amenado, RT61
[00:31] <Felonious> i really wish I could get my ati driver to install
[00:31] <soundray> matt__: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Busybox
[00:31] <PaRaSiTe_Moar> Survivorman: OK, thanks (sorry for the slow reply)
[00:31] <cjae> matt__, on a win box anyway right now
[00:31] <e|mer> amenado, I used this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=296822
[00:31] <matt__> cjae: ahhh...comeone, it'll work! ;)
[00:31] <pjv> e|mer: check to see if they have linux drivers for it. you may have to compile a module
[00:31] <individual_elev> hello how can i delete trash files on my sansa using ubuntu,i cannot access it
[00:31] <matt__> soundray: thanks
[00:31] <Survivorman> up_the_irons, buntu-dev, oops
[00:31] <Felonious> I beginning to think I will never get ati's driver to run on here
[00:31] <pjv> e|mer: or use ndiswrapper as a last resort
[00:32] <e|mer> pjv, I followed this guide and it worked until I restarted http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=296822
[00:32] <Felonious> which is the only thing keeping me from staying in linux fulltime
[00:32] <Survivorman> up_the_irons, ubuntu-dev, I can't type :(
[00:32] <pjv> ok hang on
[00:32] <up_the_irons> Survivorman: actually #ubuntu-devel seems like a valid channel :)
[00:32] <ahave> pjv, yes.
[00:32] <matt__> soundray: cjae for the most part, if i use the ~/ thing, will that mean the home directory on all distros?
[00:32] <Varega> trent1980: it keeps saying no such nick/channel
[00:32] <smithey93> Felonious: have u any idea what folder because theres lots in the tar
[00:32] <amenado> elmer and what happened? you followed the instruction on that link?
[00:32] <lunartear> anyone familiar with ACL?
[00:32] <Felonious> uhmm... no
[00:32] <soundray> Felonious: there is a fair chance that your hardy upgrade will sort you out wrt. fglrx
[00:32] <Survivorman> up_the_irons, good :)
[00:32] <Mathman> matt__: that's entirely dependent on the shell
[00:32] <sirjoebob> hello all... anyone know how to use the dell i8k fan utilities to force a dell laptop fan on without running gkrellm???
[00:32] <freebooter3> hardy is due at the end of the month right?
[00:32] <Felonious> Ive tried every method and I always end up with black screen upon reboot
[00:32] <soundray> matt__: no, not all shells use that
[00:32] <individual_elev> the files have been lock and i cannot add new items to it coz its already full
[00:33] <e|mer> amenado, yes I followed the instructions in that post. The WiFi worked until I restarted.
[00:33] <GlenQuagmire> why does the file "/etc/resolv.conf" gets overwritten every reboot ??
[00:33] <soundray> !hardy | freebooter3
[00:33] <ubotu> freebooter3: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[00:33] <cjae> matt__, most have the /home dir now and setup that way
[00:33] <PaRaSiTe_Moar> Does Ubuntu Hardy 64bit support 32bit apps?
[00:33] <jim> Felonious: aha. then: imagine how it would feel to solve that problem yourself... look at it this way: no one's responsible for your desire to run linux or any other os but you... so you have to be the one to decide
[00:33] <matt__> soundray: Mathman ok...but i can just use ./ and it'll more than likely be ok, right?
[00:33] <CShadowRun> hardy release on my birthday, awsome present +1 :D
[00:33] <soundray> PaRaSiTe_Moar: #ubuntu+1 for hardy questions please. Short answer is yes
[00:33] <matt__> PaRaSiTe_Moar: somewhat sorta...
[00:33] <pjv> e|mer: iwconfig
[00:33] <matt__> PaRaSiTe_Moar: all i can say it flash it sorta hard to get to work...
[00:33] <soundray> matt__: yes
[00:34] <pjv> e|mer: is your device there?
[00:34] <Bizzeh> hey, i cant seem to get ati or fglrx drivers to work in this install... is there any tool to go through the config in a non-automated way like previous versions?
[00:34] <PaRaSiTe_Moar> Sorry, it wasn't a Hardy question per-se, just in general.
[00:34] <e|mer> pjv, yes: http://slexy.org/view/s2SawNOz9x
[00:34] <e|mer> pjv, I mean no
[00:34] <PaRaSiTe_Moar> And I know about flash, but apart from that?
[00:34] <Mathman> matt__: if you're writing a bash script then bash is going to be the interpreter anyhow, so what you're asking doesn't really matter
[00:34] <e|mer> pjv, sorry
[00:34] <pjv> e|mer: it's not loaded
[00:34] <jim> if someone decides for you, that can create the idea that you get to come to that person and ask questions... and that might not be what the person had in mind
[00:34] <Varega> Hey guys, is NickServer down?
[00:34] <amenado> elmer do you have to have wpa? it works when in the clear?
[00:34] <Felonious> ive tried solving it...
[00:34] <pjv> e|mer: you need to load it
[00:34] <soundray> PaRaSiTe_Moar: even on gutsy, I found most 32bit apps straightforward to put into my 64bit installation
[00:34] <Felonious> tried every possible way you could to install it
[00:34] <Varega> It seems I can't register
[00:34] <kitche> Varega: how are we suppose to know that?
[00:34] <up_the_irons> Survivorman: a dude in #ubuntu-devel said to go to #ubuntu-motu, just fyi
[00:34] <soundray> !enter | Felonious
[00:34] <ubotu> Felonious: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[00:34] <e|mer> amenado, yes I have WPA PSK. I don't understand what you mean by "it works when in the clear"
[00:34] <PaRaSiTe_Moar> soundray: Thanks.
[00:34] <BarryToeman> cjae: from ffmpeg faq: Both XviD and DivX (version 4+) are implementations of the ISO MPEG-4 standard (note that there are many other coding formats that use this same standard). Thus, use '-vcodec mpeg4' to encode these formats.
[00:35] <pjv> e|mer: modprobe rt61
[00:35] <LetsGo67> How do I *disable* PPPoE?
[00:35] <e|mer> pjv, how would I do that
[00:35] <LetsGo67> !pppoe
[00:35] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[00:35] <Felonious> lol
[00:35] <kitche> Varega: and yes Nickserv is up
[00:35] <soundray> !lol | Felonious
[00:35] <ubotu> Felonious: Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[00:35] <e|mer> pjv, run that command?
[00:35] <pjv> then make the alias in modprobe.conf
[00:35] <matt__> Mathman: that is true...sorta
[00:35] <amenado> e|mer-> using WPA PSK is encrypted, clear is un-encrypted..try the clear first to make sure everything is okay
[00:35] <GlenQuagmire> anyone ? why does the file "/etc/resolv.conf" gets overwritten every reboot ??
[00:35] <pjv> e|mer: yes
[00:35] <Varega> kitche: The command to register is /msg NickServer REGISTER "NICK" correct?
[00:35] <smithey93> Felonious: have u any idea what folder because theres lots in the tar
[00:35] <matt__> soundray: LOL and OMG!!!! Gahh that gets annoying
[00:35] <daYZman> hi
[00:35] <daYZman> i just got ubuntu installed on my laptop, but i'm having some serious graphics problems. firstly, the screen goes blank just before login (possibly when X starts) if i DON'T connect an external mon to the video output. why's that?
[00:35] <jim> Varega: ot
[00:35] <jim> err
[00:35] <e|mer> pjv, I ran that and iwconfig is still the same
[00:36] <Felonious> smithey93,  no I dont not
[00:36] <jim> Varega: it's /msg nickserv help
[00:36] <kitche> Varega: no /msg or /quote nickserv register
[00:36] <ahave>  would anyone care to offer advise on how i can further debug my sata issue with ubuntu? I can not seem to read SATA1, or SATA2 with or without AHCI..I get alot of 'unknown devices' in lspci, could it be that i am lacking a needed driver?
[00:36] <BarryToeman> what's annoying is the nanny-stating when someone says "lol"
[00:36] <PaRaSiTe_Moar> Would I need to get special 64bit programs then?
[00:36] <smithey93> Felonious: dont matter, i found it :D
[00:36] <amenado> GlenQuagmire-> look in your dhclient config  it ask for name servers. if you dont want it, remove it
[00:36] <elementrus86> hey whats the package name for the system monitor thing
[00:36] <matt__> soundray: rtfa is a good one though
[00:36] <Felonious> LOL
[00:36] <Felonious> :)
[00:36] <e|mer> amenado, OK, I'm changing my WiFi settings right now...
[00:36] <PaRaSiTe_Moar> And if I downloaded Firefox, would it automatically get the 64bit version?
[00:36] <Felonious> dont ban me... im jus givin you a hard time
[00:36] <e|mer> amenado, pjv, I am quitting for a bit to change WiFi to unencrypted
[00:36] <amenado> e|mer-> make sure it matches whats in your AP settings
[00:36] <pjv> ok
[00:36] <e|mer> amenado, make sure what matches?
[00:36] <pjv> brb
[00:37] <Alangara> I need help GRUB went on the fritz after reinstalling linux and its blocking me out (get an error 15 from grub and cant advance
[00:37] <soundray> BarryToeman: it's just a polite request -- most people choose to comply and that makes the channel more readable.
[00:37] <Gilou> reinstall it
[00:37] <amenado> e|mer-> clear vs encrypted
[00:37] <Felonious> can someone tell me what the major differences between gnome and kde is?
[00:37] <Varega> thank you kitche and jim
[00:37] <e|mer> amenado, OK
[00:37] <Dossy> Hi, does anyone know how to add a resize_inode to an ext2/ext3 fs, after it's been created?  Will ext2prepare do that?
[00:37] <Mathman> Alangara: boot to rescue mode and reinstall grub
[00:37] <e|mer> amenado, I know it worked before, so I don't think encryption is the problem
[00:37] <kitche> Felonious: one uses qt the other gtk really
[00:38] <Alangara> using live CD right mathman?
[00:38] <soundray> Felonious: gnome is more work-orientated, hiding complexity. KDE puts everything in your hand to be configured in detail.
[00:38] <amenado> e|mer-> make sure first will yah, then work towards the encrypted once you have verified it works in the clear
[00:38] <Mathman> Felonious: kde is more windows like perhaps.  and gnome has much less options as far as customizing the thing goes it seems like.
[00:38] <Mathman> Alangara: yeah, that would work
[00:38] <Alangara> cool... thanks
[00:38] <Bizzeh> so. how can i config my xorg install without having to edit the file, but also without reconfigure doing it for me
[00:39] <Mathman> Alangara: you'll probably need to mount /proc in your ubuntu install.  chroot to it, then run grub.  something along those lines
[00:39] <LetsGo67> How do I *disable* PPPoE?
[00:39] <Felonious> maybe id rather be in kde then...
[00:39] <mizzdjmaria> hi
[00:39] <GrueTamer> keep in mind, Felonious, kde uses more resources and is bigger than gnome
[00:39] <Mathman> Bizzeh: on ubuntu?  hmm...you don't?  least last I checked ubuntu didn't have any gui tools or whatever for doing that.
[00:40] <b4l74z4r> sudo wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/gutsy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list <-- does anyone know how to undo whatever changes this command does?
[00:40] <PaRaSiTe_Moar> Sorry to ask again
[00:40] <PaRaSiTe_Moar> Would I need to get special 64bit programs then?
[00:40] <PaRaSiTe_Moar> If I downloaded Firefox, would it automatically get the 64bit version?
[00:40] <soundray> PaRaSiTe_Moar: of course
[00:40] <PaRaSiTe_Moar> Don't I need the 32bit FF to use flash or something.
[00:40] <soundray> PaRaSiTe_Moar: no
[00:41] <PaRaSiTe_Moar> 64bit just sounds like a lot of... trouble.
[00:41] <matt__> soundray: cjae so do all/most distros use the /etc/rc.local for sessions or whatever?
[00:41] <linxeh> GrueTamer: of course KDE uses more resources than gnome. KDE actually lets you do things rather than deciding you don't need to do them so you wont get a menu item/button for it! :)
[00:41] <matt__> PaRaSiTe_Moar: i thought so too, but i like it.
[00:41] <soundray> PaRaSiTe_Moar: you may need 32bit FF for Java plugins
[00:41] <matt__> PaRaSiTe_Moar: mostly
[00:41] <mizzdjmaria> wow nice to know
[00:41] <soundray> PaRaSiTe_Moar: it was a lot of trouble until gutsy came out
[00:41] <PaRaSiTe_Moar> So how would I get 32bit FF?
[00:41] <PaRaSiTe_Moar> Wouldn't it automatically get 64bit?
[00:41] <soundray> !flash64 | PaRaSiTe_Moar
[00:41] <ubotu> PaRaSiTe_Moar: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[00:42] <PaRaSiTe_Moar> I'll be using Hardy
[00:42] <elmer> OK, amenado modprobe rt61 is not working
[00:42] <freebooter3> so would you recommend kubuntu over ubuntu for people who like to configure their desktops better?
[00:42] <PaRaSiTe_Moar> I'm using a C2D, not AMD, if that makes any difference...
[00:42] <elmer> amenado, that is, it is not loading ra0 or anything
[00:42] <kitche> PaRaSiTe_Moar: nope since they really use the same technology
[00:42] <Mathman> freebooter3: I'd recommend installing both gnome and kde and perhaps some other desktops as well and giving them all a spin and deciding what you like
[00:42] <soundray> PaRaSiTe_Moar: you don't need 32bit firefox for flash. All you need to do is 'sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree', which will put the Adobe plugin into your 64-bit firefox
[00:43] <PaRaSiTe_Moar> Thought so.
[00:43] <PaRaSiTe_Moar> OK, thanks soundray, kitche, matt__.
[00:43] <PaRaSiTe_Moar> I still can't decide.
[00:43] <PaRaSiTe_Moar> 64bit sounds good.
[00:43] <PaRaSiTe_Moar> Just sounds like... a lot of trouble, as I said.
[00:44] <soundray> PaRaSiTe_Moar: it's not
[00:44] <soundray> PaRaSiTe_Moar: but if you're worried and stick with 32bit, there isn't much that you lose
[00:44] <Survivorman> Well PaRaSiTe_Moar you can give it a try, if you don't like it, go back to 32bit.
[00:44] <PaRaSiTe_Moar> But I need custom programs etc?
[00:44] <ahave>  would anyone care to offer advise on how i can further debug my sata issue with ubuntu? I can not seem to read SATA1, or SATA2 with or without AHCI..I get alot of 'unknown devices' in lspci, could it be that i am lacking a needed driver?
[00:44] <linxeh> 64bit is trouble if you have a lot of 32bit binary stuff you need to run
[00:44] <soundray> No, linxeh, really, it isn't
[00:44] <PaRaSiTe_Moar> I'm a first time Linux user, so no specific 32bit stuff?
[00:44] <PaRaSiTe_Moar> No ?*
[00:45] <linxeh> soundray: yes, it is trouble. its workable, but its trouble. not least because companies wont give you support - they tell you to install the 32bit version
[00:45] <soundray> PaRaSiTe_Moar: do I have to repeat myself?
[00:45] <Mathman> linxeh: depends on your distro really as to how much trouble it can be
[00:45] <soundray> linxeh: so you install the 32bit version in your 64bit system and it works just fine.
[00:45] <linxeh> Mathman: sure, and the environment you are in - for me it is nearly impossible (like using ubuntu is generally :(
[00:45] <linxeh> soundray: except when it doesn't...
[00:46] <soundray> linxeh: well, it does if you start from a fresh (not upgraded) gutsy install
[00:46] <PaRaSiTe_Moar> Won't I just have to get a load of different software etc, which would be more buggy, less supported and harder to get in the first place?
[00:46] <Mathman> linxeh: sounds more like a case of just not being familiar with ubuntu
[00:46] <soundray> PaRaSiTe_Moar: do I have to repeat myself?
[00:46] <Felonious> whats the accepted .mp4 muxer for linux ala mp4box in windows
[00:47] <linxeh> soundray: things like firefox etc sure, but loads of expensive commercial software doesn't easily work (but can be made to work) - eg SRA NetOwl, various things from BBN.
[00:47] <bosancedos> hi i have ubuntu 7.10 and i need some program to fix my videos some program like "Kino" or "kdenlive" pls can somebody tell me ?
[00:47] <bosancedos> a
[00:47] <linxeh> Mathman: its not that i'm not familiar with ubuntu... I've been using and developing on linux for 12 years, debian for about 6 of those, ubuntu for the last 3
[00:47] <soundray> PaRaSiTe_Moar: if you go for 64bit, apt will automatically retrieve software that's compatible with your  system. Most of the time, you won't even notice you're on 64bit
[00:47] <PaRaSiTe_Moar> soundray: So does that mean it won't get 64bit?
[00:48] <linxeh> Mathman: the biggest issue for me is support. the manufacturers of commercial software only support a limited number of distros generally, and ubuntu still isn't making a big dent there
[00:48] <PaRaSiTe_Moar> Sorry to sound like a stupid newb... although I suppose I am.
[00:48] <soundray> PaRaSiTe_Moar: NO
[00:48] <PaRaSiTe_Moar> OK :)
[00:48] <Mathman> linxeh: well sure, you're pretty much stuck with redhat if you run junk like that.
[00:48] <tawt> where do i go to start an application at startup?
[00:48] <bosancedos> Hello i am running Linux Ubuntu 7.10 and I am looking for some program ( example: to cut the videos, to make clip from photos and to add sounds can somebody help me please ? ) ?
[00:48] <bosancedos> so?
[00:48] <elmer> amenado, you still there?
[00:49] <soundray> !boot > tawt
[00:49] <Survivorman> tawt, system > preferences > sessions
[00:49] <tawt> thanks
[00:49] <soundray> !startup > tawt, please read private messages
[00:49] <lastk> Is possible to create a virtual machine with vmware placed on partition ntfs ?
[00:49] <MeTaL> hi, i'm back... and this time it's just plain weird
[00:50] <Mathman> lastk: yep, or at least it used to be.
[00:50] <Mathman> lastk: or you mean merely having the vmware files on an ntfs filesystem linux has mounted?
[00:50] <lastk> Mathman : i might to show the error ?
[00:50] <Mathman> lastk: don't see why that wouldn't work either
[00:50] <bosancedos> Hello i am running Linux Ubuntu 7.10 and I am looking for some program ( example: to cut the videos, to make clip from photos and to add sounds can somebody help me please ? ) ?
[00:51] <lastk> Mathman : http://paste.la/670
[00:51] <PaRaSiTe_Moar> Are most apps available in 64bit then?  Like AmaroK, Exaile etc
[00:51] <scraga1> I've got a blank CD inserted, but it doesn't appear to be picking it up(at all), any ideas?
[00:51] <wonko2> yowza there's a lot of people here
[00:51] <linxeh> Mathman: that "junk" is pretty expensive, and some of the best in its class. there is no open source equivalent, and because its so niche there is unlikely to be any open source project ever that will touch it
[00:51] <b4l74z4r> why is it that some letters appear thicker than others?
[00:51] <MeTaL> so i tried the testdisk thing, didn't fix anything, only destroyed my linux partition... whatever... i'll live without my backups... nothing irreplaceable. so i installed ubuntu again... and now that i run it, update manager won't find any updates(yeah, right) and synapsis doesn't ask for a password nor does it atually find any packages
[00:51] <soundray> bosancedos: try kino, kdenlive and cinelerra. There's no point repeating the question -- you will have to find out yourself which one suits
[00:51] <Felonious> oh cool... gpac is mp4bpx
[00:52] <bosancedos> soundray: i tryed kino and kdenlive are not good
[00:52] <Mathman> linxeh: ha, relax.  I use the term junk loosely
[00:52] <erisco> does anyone know if it is possible to take a gpd file and turn it into a ppd file? are they even the same thing?
[00:52] <soundray> bosancedos: that leaves cinelerra
[00:52] <bosancedos> ok
[00:52] <bosancedos> let me try
[00:52] <wonko2> quick Q: i'm trying to work with openldap, i've got 2.3.35 installed, but all the libldap/libldap-dev stuff seems to be 2.1.30, how do I get that to be 2.3.x as well so i can link to it properly?
[00:52] <elmer> amenado, you still there?
[00:52] <linxeh> :)
[00:52] <bosancedos> soundray: E: Couldn't find package cinelerra
[00:52] <Mathman> lastk: doesn't sound like anything to do with the disk really.  what version of vmware if I may?
[00:52] <bosancedos> soundray: i can't install cinelerra
[00:52] <Billenium> Hey, i just installed Ubuntu, and now im at the command line. So then i "sudo apt-get installed ubuntu-desktop"... Now thats done. How do i get into the Desktop it self?
[00:52] <MeTaL> so i tried the testdisk thing, didn't fix anything, only destroyed my linux partition... whatever... i'll live without my backups... nothing irreplaceable. so i installed ubuntu again... and now that i run it, update manager won't find any updates(yeah, right) and synapsis doesn't ask for a password nor does it atually find any packages
[00:52] <lonran> how can i draw a simple circumference with a selected color in gimp? (i have searched for howtos but cant find an answer)
[00:52] <MeTaL> help anyone?
[00:53] <soundray> !cinelerra | bosancedos
[00:53] <ubotu> bosancedos: Cinelerra is a video editor and compositor that cannot be included in Ubuntu for legal reasons. Install instructions can be found on http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php#ubuntu
[00:53] <erisco> lonran, I believe there is #gimp
[00:53] <Mathman> Billenium: startx would probably do the trick.  I'd probably set it up so that I get a gui on boot though
[00:53] <robilive> Hi, some day ago I've colorized the "ok" and "fail" message of the bootup. I would like to colorize the boot scripts' messages  but I have no idea on what to do... Does anyone know how to do this?
[00:53] <soundray> Billenium: 'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm' or reboot
[00:53] <Billenium> how do i make it boot to GUI?
[00:53] <Billenium> always
[00:53] <lonran> erisco, yes, but no one answer
[00:54] <erisco> lonran, not an excuse. read the help files.
[00:54] <Mathman> Billenium: soundray has you covered
[00:54] <Billenium> okay
[00:54] <Billenium> ill do soundrays thang
[00:54] <lonran> erisco, sorry then
[00:54] <Billenium> Thanks
[00:54] <wonko2> also, the other thing, i'm using fluxbox instead of gnome or kde, how do i get the laptop's lid switch to suspend it?
[00:54] <wonko2> it doesn't seem to want to do that while running fluxbox
[00:54] <soundray> Billenium: it should boot into gdm (the login screen) automatically
[00:54] <THCJesus> How do i register my nick name
[00:54] <Billenium> k
[00:54] <bosancedos> soundray: you see i can't install that on ubuntu, so can you tell me another program please?
[00:55] <soundray> !register | THCJesus
[00:55] <ubotu> THCJesus: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[00:55] <MeTaL> no one willing to help me?
[00:55] <soundray> !cinelerra | bosancedos
[00:55] <ubotu> bosancedos: Cinelerra is a video editor and compositor that cannot be included in Ubuntu for legal reasons. Install instructions can be found on http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php#ubuntu
[00:55] <soundray> bosancedos: can you see that message from ubotu ^^ ?
[00:55] <bosancedos> soundray: one of my friends said that program dont works so good
[00:55] <bosancedos> yes i saw
[00:55] <scraga1> help, I've got a blank CD inserted, but I can't mount it, and gutsy won't let me write to it, keeps saying no device inserted.
[00:55] <bosancedos> soundray: well, can you tell me another program please i really need one?
[00:56] <PaRaSiTe2> Gah.  I'm VERY tempted by 64bit, just the idea of different apps and more bugs and non-working things sounds... bad.
[00:56] <soundray> bosancedos: the http thing is a URL, you enter it in firefox and it will take you to the installation instructions
[00:56] <scraga1>  -- tested with 3 different CDs, so can't find the problem.
[00:56] <Mathman> scraga1: well, you don't mount blank cds first off.  they have no file system
[00:56] <Stormx2> Oioi. Can I disable my system beep? Turn it into a speaker beep?
[00:56] <bosancedos> SOUNDRAY PLS
[00:56] <soundray> PaRaSiTe2: the apps aren't different!
[00:56] <xoai> .
[00:56] <soundray> !caps | bosancedos
[00:56] <ubotu> bosancedos: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[00:57] <wonko2> PaRaSiTe2: i've got 64bit on my desktop at work, i haven't noticed any real issues with it
[00:57] <linxeh> PaRaSiTe2: I'm running 64bit at work and haven't really found anything I can't do yet, other than some random commercial prodcuts
[00:57] <elmer> OK
[00:57] <scraga1>  @ Mathman - was seeing if I could mount it since that would mean it's not blank, since I can't it means it's blank, but then doesn't explain why ubuntu has it's problem with them.
[00:57] <elmer> I need some help
[00:57] <Mathman> scraga1: spose I'd see what dmesg has to say
[00:57] <elmer> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=296822
[00:57] <ahave> is it normal to see 'unknown devices' in lspci?
[00:57] <elmer> I am following that guide and ra0 is not loading
[00:57] <soundray> ahave: yes
[00:57] <PaRaSiTe2> soundray: They're not different apps, but they are different installations etc.
[00:57] <linxeh> ahave: yes
[00:57] <wonko2> PaRaSiTe2: how much ram do you have?
[00:57] <Mathman> scraga1: do normal cds work then?
[00:58] <LetsGo67> How do I *REMOVE* PPPoE?
[00:58] <bosancedos> soundray: well, can you tell me another program please i really need one?
[00:58] <bosancedos> soundray: i ask you 100 times
[00:58] <ahave> soundray, linxeh, so how can i debug a SATA drive not working?
[00:58] <soundray> bosancedos: no
[00:58] <PaRaSiTe2> wonko2: 2GB
[00:58] <PaRaSiTe2> For now.
[00:58] <bosancedos> soundray: so FUCKYOURSELF
[00:58] <linxeh> ahave: dmesg / /var/log/messages
[00:58] <PaRaSiTe2> So I don't NEED 64bit
[00:58] <scraga1> Mathman: not tested it with CDs, but DVD(blank and with contents) work fine. dmesg say's tray is open...
[00:58] <LetsGo67> !language > bosancedos
[00:58] <wonko2> PaRaSiTe2: no, but once you get more than 4GB you should go 64-bit, so it's that's the plan, go now if it's easier. :)
[00:58] <Mathman> scraga1: the tray is open?  odd
[00:59] <scraga1> something like --> hdd: tray open <-- it's closed though...
[00:59] <wonko2> i have to run, i'll bug you all later about my problems
[00:59] <LetsGo67> !language > bosancedos
[00:59] <PaRaSiTe2> So why do a lot of people say 64bit has problems and stick with 32bit?  It doesn't make sense if what you all saying is true
[00:59] <soundray> PaRaSiTe2: why don't you install both side-by-side, then you can compare 32 and 64 directly
[00:59] <LetsGo67> my bad bosancedos
[00:59] <LetsGo67> How do I *REMOVE* PPPoE?
[00:59] <Mathman> scraga1: try booting up with the blank in the machine already?  I dunno...
[00:59] <linxeh> PaRaSiTe2: I run 32bit on my 64bit machines at home, but run 64bit at work (16 + 64GB ram)
[01:00] <soundray> PaRaSiTe2: arrgh
[01:00] <PaRaSiTe2> soundray: How?  And wouldn't that just slow it all down?
[01:00] <Acomaco> My php script runs good(sends a mail), It appears in MailQ but I don't deliver it..Can there be something wrong with PostFix?
[01:00] <linxeh> PaRaSiTe2: why will it slow it down ?
[01:00] <linxeh> PaRaSiTe2: they will be on separate partitions...
[01:00] <Adys> how can i find out which kernel version Im using, without rebooting?
[01:00]  * PaRaSiTe2 is stupid.
[01:00] <linxeh> Adys: uname -a
[01:00] <ahave> linxeh, what should i look for in dmesg? with SATA issues?
[01:01] <Adys> thanks
[01:01] <LetsGo67> How do I *REMOVE* PPPoE?
[01:01] <linxeh> ahave: without seeing it , I don't know. you could paste it to a pasteboard and give us the url ?
[01:01] <soundray> PaRaSiTe2: at least you have some self-insight ;)
[01:01] <scraga1> Mathman: also says(although it's about 1 in 10 lines, so missed it first time round) --> end_request: I/O error, dev hdd, sector 0
[01:01] <donspaulding> how can I tell if anacron is running my /etc/cron.daily/* jobs?
[01:01] <linxeh> LetsGo67: rip out the ethernet ?
[01:01] <PaRaSiTe2> soundray: lol
[01:01] <Mathman> LetsGo67: I suppose that gui junk would probably work.  synaptic is it?
[01:01] <pokerfacepenguin> soundray: i run 64 bit no problems
[01:01] <PaRaSiTe2> Oops, sorry, !lol and all that.
[01:01] <docmur> When I run cedega I have my game in window mode.   Is there away to release my mouse so I can work on the desktop
[01:02] <LetsGo67> Mathman: I need to clean the computer.
[01:02] <soundray> PaRaSiTe2: lots of people had trouble with 32bit programs on 64bit installations before gutsy, but gutsy solves those problems
[01:02] <whileimhere> I am using Ubuntu 7.10 and every time I try to move a text block Inkscape 0.45 starts to hog CPU time and never finishes the move. Anyone know why?
[01:02] <Stroganoff> LetsGo67: use a duster
[01:02] <soundray> pokerfacepenguin: good to know, so do I
[01:02] <gluer> im taking my 64bit to get fitted into a water cooled case, to friggin noisey..
[01:02] <linxeh> gluer: there are plenty of quiet air cooled solutions :P
[01:02] <soundray> whileimhere: sounds like a but
[01:02] <soundray> whileimhere: sounds like a bug
[01:02] <Mathman> scraga1: yep, some cd burners are screwy under linux, my experience anyhow.  sony ones in particular.  like I say, I'd try it from a fresh boot and see what happens.
[01:02] <soundray> !bugs | whileimhere
[01:02] <ubotu> whileimhere: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[01:03] <Mathman> scraga1: or it could be it's time to get a new drive.
[01:03] <Stormx2> How can I turn off the system beep on my motherboard and use my sound card instead?
[01:03] <linxeh> are sony dvdrw/cdrw drives still made by liteon ?
[01:03] <Mathman> beats me
[01:03] <lunartear> anyone here familiar with ACL
[01:03] <Stroganoff> Stormx2: blacklit pcspkr
[01:04] <Stroganoff> blacklist
[01:04] <PaRaSiTe2> soundray: So with Hardy there is little reason NOT to use 64bit, as most bugs/problems should be fixed or minor?
[01:04] <Mathman> lunartear: barely.  but then there's probably a way to do with groups and users whatever it is you're wanting.  least that's usually the case.
[01:04] <g666RL> i tried to start ubuntu, but i gave me a message about my screen and never got past that .   like it started to iniaialize my screen drivers or something 6 times. any ideas?
[01:04] <Stormx2> Stroganoff: Will that give me a beep from my speakers and not just silence it?
[01:04] <Stroganoff> silence it
[01:04] <Stroganoff> :D
[01:04] <LetsGo67> How do I remove PPPoEconf system changes?
[01:04] <scraga1> Mathman: k, it works fine to burn DVDs, and it's burn CDs before(back on dapper, not burnt any CDs on gutsy before now, was gonna burn a hardy liveCD, install it alongside gutsy try it out without risking stability when it's essential)
[01:04] <LetsGo67> How do I remove PPPoEconf system changes?
[01:05] <soundray> PaRaSiTe2: my advice is, install them both and compare. I'm starting to find this discussion boring, so please don't ask me anymore.
[01:05] <shukassa> g666R: ubuntu does that on a one of my computers. I got around it using the alternate CD install which uses the Debian installer
[01:05] <lunartear> Mathman: my issue is that the acls arent being inherited when copying regular files/directories to a directory with acls set
[01:05] <ahave> linxeh, http://rafb.net/p/HpnbGY95.html
[01:05] <dabbill> I am getting java error when tryin to run frostwire sayin /usr/lib/frostwire/runFrostwire.sh: line 125:  3903 Aborted
[01:05] <shukassa> But if you want to use it Live CD wise that won't help
[01:06] <soundray> LetsGo67: if nobody replies, it's because nobody knows. Repeating at this rate won't help.
[01:06] <PaRaSiTe2> soundray: Sorry. :-/
[01:06] <utarpradesh> How do I run Nautilus?
[01:06] <Mathman> lunartear: beats me
[01:06] <utarpradesh> Nautilus is installed but I don't know how to run it.
[01:06] <g666RL> shukassa: so should i use another distros Live CD?
[01:06] <soundray> utarpradesh: are you in gnome?
[01:06] <IndyGunFreak> utarpradesh: open a terminal and type nautilus?
[01:06] <pokerfacepenguin> utarpradesh: it is your file manager in gnome
[01:06] <utarpradesh> im in ubuntu 7.10
[01:06] <utarpradesh> o
[01:06] <Survivorman> dabbill, update-alternatives --config java and select your java
[01:06] <scraga1> utarpradesh: it's the default file veiwer :P
[01:06] <utarpradesh> then
[01:07] <utarpradesh> I see. :D
[01:07] <utarpradesh> :D:D:D:D Sorry :)
[01:07] <utarpradesh> <3
[01:07] <soundray> utarpradesh: nautilus is already running. Open a nautilus window via the Places menu
[01:07] <dabbill> Survivorman, done that :(
  well it seems churlish top recommend another distros in this chan but i have found Fedora has the best Graphics drivers
[01:07] <utarpradesh> aha, hm.. i thought it was the cd burner utility.... then how do i create a Data Disc using DVD+R's?
[01:07] <shukassa> And it especially seems to work with the ones that Ubuntu doesn't
[01:08] <Survivorman> dabbill, which one are you selecting... it just randomly happened to me a few days ago and that worked. Apart from that, I'm not sure.
[01:08] <g666RL> shukassa: so for ubuntu my only choice is to install it right away?
[01:08] <utarpradesh> i want to put data onto a 4.7GB DVD+R
[01:08] <shukassa> But then again you could try Opengeu which is more or less ubuntu but with a different set of driers
[01:08] <orudie> which channel is for susian ubuntu ?
[01:08] <rdg> lookin for a little help - Ubuntu installer (beta) isn't detecting my CD after just launching the installer from it
[01:08] <Stormx2> Stroganoff: How can I make that happen every boot?
[01:08] <orudie> russian ubuntu
[01:08] <rdg> is this common with SATA DVD-ROM drives?
[01:08] <JamaKris> i need help with the atheros AR5006EG wiireless w/ my laptop need to get it working, can anyone help
[01:08] <Stormx2> !ru | orudie
[01:08] <ubotu> orudie: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[01:08] <soundray> utarpradesh: Places-CD/DVD creator
[01:08] <dabbill> Survivorman,  /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java
[01:08] <Stroganoff> Stormx2 use google........ http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/07/26/turning-off-the-system-hardware-beep-linux-tutorial/
[01:08] <utarpradesh> ah, thank you
 or maybe use Virtual box and try it virtually first
[01:09] <shukassa> that's what I do
[01:09] <g666RL> shukassa: actually what i really want is to use the Gparted thing to shrink my primary partitiion
[01:09] <JamaKris> and im using ubuntu
[01:09] <JamaKris> i need help with the atheros AR5006EG wiireless w/ my laptop need to get it working, can anyone help
[01:09] <soundray> !repeat | JamaKris
[01:09] <ubotu> JamaKris: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:09] <Survivorman> dabbill, I'm not sure what to do then. I've seen a lot of issues have been popping up lately (this week) with frostwire and java. Maybe some update that occurred.
 well you could do that
[01:10] <soundray> !wifi | JamaKris, have a look at these help pages, then come back and ask more specifically
[01:10] <ubotu> JamaKris, have a look at these help pages, then come back and ask more specifically: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:10] <dabbill> Survivorman, i am selecting *+        2    /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java
[01:10] <g666RL> shukassa: but you dont recommend it?
[01:10] <headrx> for some reason, i cant 'su'  .. i edited the 'group' file and added my usr under root, but still no luck
[01:10] <soundray> JamaKris: look out for the madwifi keyword, that's what the Atheros driver is called
[01:10] <headrx> any ideas
[01:10] <code_kill> does anyone know file name of xvid to (apt-get) it?
[01:10] <Survivorman> dabbill, that's the one I used too. I read that installing iced tea worked for some people, but I can't play online chess on pogo with iced tea, so I never tried it.
[01:11] <high-freq> is there a repo for madwifi cuz all i see is madwifi-tools in the repo
 well I've tried so many things I can't make up my mind - there's no reason whay it shouldn't work though
[01:11] <orudie> whats the name of a good irc client ?
[01:11] <rdg> is there anything I can do to encourage the installer to find my DVD drive it just booted off of?
[01:11] <dabbill> hurm
[01:11] <soundray> headrx: if you need root privileges, use sudo instead.
[01:11] <icanhasproxy> So my wifi card is broken. Atheros AR242x. modprobe ath_pci reveals error in dmesg
[01:11] <scraga1> picks up blank CD now, thanks.
[01:11] <shukassa> I like Xchat
[01:11] <g666RL> shukassa: the fedora is on www.fedora.org?
[01:11] <headrx> i know that .. but its still annoying that it wont work
[01:11] <soundray> headrx: if you need to impersonate another user via shell, use 'sudo su - username'
  yeah
[01:11] <Seven_Six_Two> rdg, detect it with what?
[01:11] <Seven_Six_Two> rdg, for what?
  be aware though that Fedora is tricky to install Sun-Java on if you want that form an os
[01:12] <scraga1> :( now when I go to burn I'm prompted to insert a blank CD...
[01:12] <rdg> I'm trying to install the latest ubuntu from iso (alternative).. it booted, launched the installer, then said it couldn't mount my CD after detecting keyboard
[01:12] <high-freq> is there a repo that has madwifi?
[01:12] <linxeh> ahave: I would go into the bios and set "plug and play os installed" to yes
  I would look at Opengeu too
[01:13] <g666RL> shukassa: so what u recommend if i just want to use the Gparted feature to shrink my primary partition
[01:13] <ahave> linxeh, why would you say that?
[01:13] <soundray> !info madwifi-tools | high-freq
[01:13] <ubotu> high-freq: madwifi-tools (source: madwifi-tools): tools for the Multiband Atheros Driver for WiFi. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.9.3+dfsg-1 (gutsy), package size 38 kB, installed size 196 kB
[01:13] <g666RL> shukassa:  url
[01:13] <f0rmat> i was just wondering how i could connect my laptop to my desktop via ethernet and link them like a network
[01:13] <g666RL> ?
[01:13] <linxeh> ahave: but its found the disks as sda and sdb ?
[01:13] <soundray> high-freq: it's in universe ^^
[01:13] <high-freq> k
[01:13] <high-freq> didn't know if that was it
[01:13] <high-freq> for the madwifi drivers
[01:14] <soundray> high-freq: the actual drivers are in the kernel
[01:14] <ahave> linxeh, i suppose. gparted will see them and i can set partitions.. but it will not automount
  hang on I saw something that was said to be easier than Gparted lets see if I can find it
[01:14] <linxeh> ahave: well, its whinging about IRQs being reserved - some newer AMD boards I've seen have had the pnp os stuff disabled in bios for some reason, seems odd to me
[01:14] <Pelo> Evening folks
[01:14] <high-freq> k k
[01:14] <doodler> format: are your computers on the same network right now? or sharing an internet connection?
[01:14] <linxeh> ahave: oh, well whats in /etc/fstab ? can you paste that ?
[01:14] <rdg> any thoughts on that Seven_Six_Two
[01:14] <g666RL> shukassa:  sure
[01:14] <f0rmat> i was just wondering how i could connect my laptop to my desktop via ethernet and link them like a network
[01:14] <ahave> linxeh, sure. one min.
[01:14] <doodler> whats your laptop running
[01:14] <Seven_Six_Two> rdg, does it throw a specific error?
[01:15] <linxeh> ahave: mythtv box ? :)
[01:15]  * Pelo wonders if everyone has taken the time to sign the "Stop Uwe Boll" petition yet  : http://www.petitiononline.com/RRH53888/petition.html
[01:15] <bruenig> spam
[01:15] <rdg> just says "Your installation CD couldn't be mounted"
[01:15] <Pelo> bruenig,  but worth it
[01:15]  * bruenig moves that Pelo kicks himself
[01:15] <LetsGo67> No me habla german.
[01:15] <anteaya> now i know that .chm is a windows format, but a friend is trying to help me and offered to let me read the chm file if i can get a reader in ubuntu that can handle the format.  Is there a reader in ubuntu for chm files?
[01:15] <bruenig> does anyone know if ubuntu has dwm in its repos
[01:15] <doodler> format: what OS is your laptop/desktop running
[01:15] <soundray> f0rmat: you need a crossover patch cable. Then you can configure static IP addresses on both machines (192.168.1.1 and 192.168.1.2 are suitable addresses)
[01:15] <icanhasproxy> does ndiswrapper support monitor mode and/or packet injection?
[01:16] <Pici> !info dwm | bruenig
[01:16] <ubotu> bruenig: dwm (source: dwm): dynamic window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.3-1 (gutsy), package size 30 kB, installed size 184 kB
[01:16] <bruenig> ok
[01:16] <eric84> hello all
[01:16] <f0rmat> :(
[01:16] <linxeh> anteaya: chmsee
[01:16] <doodler> if they're on the same network, you should be able to do it without any other hardware
[01:16] <soundray> f0rmat: what's wrong?
[01:16] <rdg> Seven_Six_Two,  mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd0 /cdrom/     returns a "invalid argument"
[01:16] <ahave> linxeh, as soon as i can use the HDD.. yes. :)
[01:16] <f0rmat> i didn't know i couldn't use just a standard ethernet
[01:16] <f0rmat> :S
[01:16] <linxeh> anteaya: also https://addons.mozilla.org/nl/firefox/addon/3235
[01:16] <anteaya> linxeh: thank you, i will look for chmsee
[01:16] <f0rmat> oh well
[01:16] <jkonami> hey all - can anyone recommend a good benchmark program?
[01:17] <doodler> format: you can just use it
[01:17] <f0rmat> thankyou soundray
[01:17] <FloodBot2> f0rmat: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:17] <Pici> anteaya: gnochm or kchmviewer, depending on what desktop environment you prefer.
[01:17] <anteaya> linxeh: thank you, if there is a firefox add on that would help me greatly
[01:17] <high-freq> is there a way to install a bz2 file from apt-get or apt-install or somethin
[01:17] <linxeh> anteaya: and KchmViewer
[01:17] <Pelo> jkonami, there was one mentionned on diggs last week but I never manage to get it working, it was cli, I'm not that good
[01:17] <Seven_Six_Two> rdg, is it a pata drive?
[01:17] <linxeh> anteaya: I've not tried these though :)
[01:17] <doodler> why wouldn't format be able to just use an ethernet cable to network his laptop and desktop?
[01:17] <anteaya> Pici: thank you
[01:17] <soundray> f0rmat: it may work, but at least one of your cards has to autodetect the direct connection and "rewire" itself for a crossover connection. Macs tend to be good that way.
[01:17] <linxeh> anteaya: I think I've seen a tool that will extract a .chm into standard html files htough somewhere
[01:18] <n6rej> anyone comfortable with networks and samba?
[01:18] <arakthor> would #ubuntu+1 be the place to ask about a package in development?
[01:18] <bruenig> Pelo lies, he is that good
[01:18] <rdg> Seven_Six_Two, I was pretty sure it was SATA.. let me crack open the case
[01:18] <jkonami> Pelo: let me know if you remember the name :)
[01:18] <Pelo> doodler, needs a router or a point to point protocol
[01:18] <rdg> yea it's sata
[01:18] <Seven_Six_Two> rdg, oh if you think it is, then that sounds right
[01:18] <anteaya> linxeh: i will wait if you think the answer is close
[01:18] <Pelo> jkonami, the point was for you to go to www.digg.com and do a search for linux benchmark
 http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=115843&package_id=269898 http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Operating-Systems/Linux-Distributions/OpenGEU-30565.shtml
[01:19] <n6rej> I'm trying to setup my samba as a winserver and set the network to dhcp and now I can't ping the server from the server nor see it by name from windows
[01:19] <linxeh> anteaya: I don;t have any more suggestions I'm afraid - I'd be googling etc
[01:19] <jkonami> Pelo: Oh, will do.  thanks :)
[01:19] <Pelo> bruenig,  is that your new strategy , build me up for the crowd and watch me fail ?
[01:19] <n6rej> s/winserver/WINS/
[01:19] <rdg> Seven_Six_Two, there a solution?
[01:19] <shukassa> Opengeu is basically ubuntu but is has some restricted drivers available
[01:19] <bruenig> Pelo: you build yourself up with your awesomeness, did you know your nick means hair in spanish?
[01:19] <ahave> linxeh, fstab: http://rafb.net/p/lwu55r94.html
[01:19] <shukassa> at the install stage I mean
[01:19] <Seven_Six_Two> rdg, /mount exists?
[01:19] <anteaya> linxeh: don't waste your time and thanks for the help
[01:19] <linxeh> anteaya: good luck :)
[01:19] <g666RL> shukassa: those distros should be able to shrink partitiions ?
[01:19] <anteaya> Pici: and thank you as well
[01:19] <Pelo> bruenig, I was aware or that , also means skin in old french
[01:20] <Seven_Six_Two> rdg, is that the command that the installer uses?
[01:20]  * anteaya nods to linxeh
[01:20] <linxeh> ahave: well there you go then :)
[01:20] <soundray> doodler: regular ethernet cables haven't got the right wiring for a peer-to-peer connection
[01:20] <g666RL> shukassa: ok thanks
 well the first is a set of tools just for partirtioning on a live cd
[01:20] <linxeh> ahave: you need to add the drives to that file to get them to mount at boot
[01:20] <high-freq> um...is it wise to install manually the madwifi-tools if i put on thumbdrive...since laptop isn't on net yet cuz of the ar242x drivers...anyone know if there's an issue with the ar5006eg using madwifi?
[01:20] <shukassa> it's not a whole operating system
[01:20] <bruenig> Pelo: can also mean "to defeat" in latin
[01:20] <cirkit> bruenig = troll
[01:20] <ahave> linxeh, oh..
[01:20] <doodler> soundray: but if he's on the same network, he should be able to share files between the two machines
[01:20] <g666RL> shukassa: ok
[01:20] <Pelo> bruenig, realy ?
[01:20] <rdg> Seven_Six_Two, /mount? no..     I ran %  mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd0 /cdrom
[01:20] <ahave> linxeh, i thought they should automount/
[01:20] <linxeh> ahave: I'm not sure of the "preferred" ubuntu way of doing that though
[01:21] <bruenig> Pelo: actually that is pello, but sometimes they drop double consonants and such, so it could be rendered pelo
[01:21] <soundray> doodler: right now, he's not on a network at all (as evidenced by questions he or she was asking earlier)
[01:21] <eric84> when i try to enable my nvidia restricted driver for legacy cards i get an error saying that 'the software source for the package nvidia-glx-legacy is not enabled'... i've tried downloading that package using synaptic but it doesn't find it, any advice?
[01:21] <doodler> soundray: if he means just having two computers sitting in a room hooked together with 1 ethernet cable and neither hooked up to a network, then yeah that wont work
[01:21] <ahave> linxeh, what are some google terms i can use to find a guide?
[01:21] <Seven_Six_Two> rdg, can you do it with sudo?
[01:21] <linxeh> ahave: well, maybe if you set them somehow in the gui tools they would. I'm away from an ubuntu box atm so I'm not sure how to guide you. I'll have a google
[01:21] <high-freq> !wifi
[01:21] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:21] <doodler> soundray: ok i missed that part sorry. i guess i came in after he started asking
[01:21] <pirattrev> how do u get your own channel to appear in the channels list?
 what graphics card do you have just for my curiosity?
[01:21] <rdg> Seven_Six_Two, I'm in the console during the installer.. there is no sudo
[01:21] <g666RL> shukassa:  hold on
[01:21] <dabbill> what is the package name for sun java? or all the package names i need to install
[01:21] <LetsGo67> HA HA ALL YOU 6.10 NO MORE SUPPORT FOR U!
[01:21] <linxeh> ahave: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions?highlight=%28mount%29
[01:21] <ahave> linxeh, i am actually using a mythbuntu build...
[01:21] <soundray> doodler: it can work, if at least one of the cards can autoconfigure itself for crossover
[01:21] <bruenig> cirkit: how is california?
[01:22] <JamaKris> !wifi
[01:22] <cirkit> bruenig, nice and sunny ;)
[01:22] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:22] <linxeh> ahave: I would read that guide through before doing anything though
[01:22] <guillermo> hi. i was installing ubuntu 8.04 from a network server but couldnt install ubuntu-desktop correcly, its a bug of some sort. so im left with the command line, the problem is it wont let me sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, i get an error saying the network is unreachable, any ideas?
[01:22] <ahave> linxeh, thanks! i will read up on that.
[01:22] <soundray> !hardy | guillermo
[01:22] <ubotu> guillermo: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[01:22] <ahave> linexh, would you still recomend changing the bios setting to plug and play os?
[01:23] <linxeh> ahave: nah leave it as it is :)
[01:23] <Seven_Six_Two> rdg, sorry to waste your time rdg, I'm not sure what could be happening. I have never used that installer.
[01:23] <ahave> linxeh, ok
[01:23] <linxeh> ahave: try adding this line...
[01:23] <g666RL> shukassa: Intel(R) 829 15G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family ??
[01:23] <rdg> Seven_Six_Two, no sweat and not a waste of time. any attempt at help is appreciated
[01:23] <g666RL> shukassa: sorry dunno if thats good
[01:24] <linxeh> ahave:      /dev/sda1     /where/you/want/it     ext3    defaults    0  0
[01:24] <cirkit>  17:22:30 up 50 days, 18:16,  1 user,  load average: 0.42, 0.32, 0.39
[01:24] <Seven_Six_Two> rdg, np
[01:24] <g666RL> i thought it would be under systems
[01:24] <bruenig> cirkit: yawn
[01:24] <linxeh> ahave: and the same for /sev/sdb1   (but obviously on another mount point, unless you want to set up LVM)
 I have afeeling i searched apt for jre 1.5 and it came up pretty obviously by name
[01:24] <bruenig> does anyone have screenshots of their desktop?
[01:24] <eric84> if anyone has a chance could they please take a crack at a driver issue i'm having?
[01:24] <Pelo> bruenig,  are you making a collection ?
[01:24] <linxeh> shukassa: sun-java5-jre
[01:24] <ohlawd> Hey.
[01:24] <bruenig> just want to see what ubuntu looks like
[01:25] <doodler> is anyone running on a thinkpad 770z by any chance? or anything close to it ? lol i know its a stretch
[01:25] <dabbill> shukassa, when i did a search for jre it came back with nothing
[01:25] <ohlawd> Can anybody tell me how to save an animated .gif?
[01:25] <linxeh> bruenig: so check the ubuntu site, or google imags
[01:25] <ahave> linxeh, i actually want it to be NTFS, so that my dual boot can have access to it. so LVM is out
[01:25] <Pelo> bruenig, still using arch-linux then ?
[01:25] <bruenig> but I want it from the real users
[01:25] <ohlawd> It only saves the first frame when I try.
[01:25] <linxeh> dabbill: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[01:25] <bruenig> none of this images stuff where people are so tricked up, real desktops that people use
[01:25] <linxeh> ahave: you can get an ext2 driver for windows
[01:25] <f0rmat> Ok i have 1 ethernet cable i can't have the internet on my laptop while the desktop has the ethernet all i wan't to to is connect the laptop to the desktop and transfer files from desktop to laptop
[01:25] <Pelo> bruenig, accept the file
[01:25] <g666RL> shukassa: CPQ3026, its a compaq 15 inch
 thats interesting that's another Intrel integrated cheipset the same as i had a problen with and the issue appeasr to be that those boards are named wrongly or something like that
[01:26] <dabbill> linxeh, thanks
[01:26] <ahave> linxeh, would that work better for *buntu for read/write?
[01:26] <linxeh> bruenig: http://www.neohide.com/files/deskeffects/screen.png thats like mine
[01:26] <bruenig> Pelo: I have
[01:26] <ohlawd> Can anybody please tell me how to save an animated .gif?
[01:26] <linxeh> ahave: mmm, possibly - I'd rather be using something open ;-)
[01:26] <linxeh> ahave: most of your writing will be in Ubuntu I guess?
[01:26] <ChaosParser> ohlawd: Just save it.
[01:27] <g666RL> shukassa: cool, but that means i can never yse any livecd, right?
[01:27] <ohlawd> ChaosParser:It only saves the first frame when I try.
[01:27] <ChaosParser> ohlawd: Open it with firefox.
[01:27] <soundray> f0rmat: have you tried my suggestion?
[01:27] <ohlawd> Oh okay.
[01:27] <ohlawd> Thanks.
[01:27] <ChaosParser> ohlawd: No problem :)
 no somehow Fedora does recognise them
[01:27] <f0rmat> soundray, yes
[01:27] <Pelo> bruenig, hold on I'm putting it up on imageshack
[01:27] <ahave> linxeh, live tv recordings... yes. but alot of the .iso and .mp3 may come from windows/network computers
[01:27] <shukassa> And so does Debian's installer
[01:27] <soundray> f0rmat: and can you ping one machine from the other?
[01:27] <Pelo> bruenig, http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=capturebureauwh3.png
[01:27] <g666RL> shukassa: but does it have a LiveCd option?
[01:27] <shukassa> At least it did here but yest you are a bit limited with those
[01:28] <g666RL> shukassa: but does it have a LiveCd option  and can it repartioton
[01:28] <bruenig> linxeh: what use are those gauges, do you get anything out of that except to watch it?
[01:28] <shukassa> Fedora does yes
[01:28] <shukassa> Debian doesn't no
[01:28] <f0rmat> soundray, actually i wasn't to sure as how to go about doing that i have a dhcp server running on my desktop but i dunno what to do
[01:28] <bruenig> Pelo: adesklets and conky is that?
[01:28] <dabbill> I keep getting Something went wrong with FrostWire, Maybe your useing the wrong version of java.... it wants 1.4+ when i have 1.6 installed. Any ideas how to fix?
[01:28] <Pelo> bruenig, gdesklets and conky yes
[01:29] <g666RL> shukassa: debian CAN NOT  have a LiveCd option  and can NOT repartition??
[01:29] <Pelo> bruenig,  I could never get adesklets to work properly , go figure
 yeah that gparted iso has a lot of driver included - it worked for me anyway
[01:29] <soundray> f0rmat: then you don't need static addresses. Just leave your laptop configured as a DHCP client (the default) and see if it picks up an address from the server on your desktop.
 it will partition you drive
[01:29] <shukassa> but it doesn't have a live cd
[01:29] <bruenig> Pelo: adesklets is weird, very manual
[01:30] <shukassa> Actually many people don't recommend debian as a beginner system I ought to say
[01:30] <g666RL> shu but the OpenGEU does both?
[01:30] <shukassa> I found it ok but i am told it can be confusing
[01:30] <GrueTamer> the installer process is a bit more intimidating to some
[01:30] <soundray> doodler: Ubuntu is suboptimal for a laptop like that. Perhaps have a look at DSL Linux
[01:30] <g666RL> shukassa: i was mainly looking for a repartioner but i got curious
 yeah and you get a really fancy themeset called Enlightenment to boot
[01:30] <GrueTamer> but its really not *that* different, from what i can tell
[01:31] <shukassa> Actully the themes weren't to my taste really
[01:31] <g666RL> shukassa: on which distro is the themeset?
[01:31] <gligorhoria> hellow, if i use GNU GPL server side software, may i remove the links to the authors web site, or the adds provided with them?
[01:31] <shukassa> But then I don't like Aero either so what do I know about style
[01:31] <GrueTamer> shukassa: you know much about style
[01:31] <matt__> http://linuxhack3r.com/2008/04/07/x360mediaserve-stream-music-to-your-360-in-linux/ A tutorial/script I've written to get a media server streaming to your xbox 360, anyone mind looking over it to make sure it is simple and complete?
[01:31] <SubOne> Some of the videos I watch in firefox (totem video player plugin) show up with no video but just sound. The strange thing is that if I scroll the page I can see glimpses of the video for each notch I scroll on mhy mousewheel. Could this be a codec issue? I'm just really confused why I see flashes of the video if I scroll the page.
[01:32] <g666RL> shukassa: actually im against any themes i had huge problemsw whit KDE or gnome or whatever
[01:32] <Pelo> bruenig, I tried it because gdesklets has this little bug in it that makes it eat 100% cpu after a while,  it just goes up for no reason and you need to kill it,  I have crontab restart it every hour now so it doesn't do that anymroe but anyway. I tweeked this little conky casue I was bored and I wanted system info and I thought gdesklets was just too demanding for that,
[01:32] <linxeh> gligorhoria: how about asking GNU or FSF that, rather than ubuntu ? :o
[01:32] <linxeh> gligorhoria: or hell, even a lawyer?
 well you don't have to use them with Opengeu
[01:32] <soundray> gligorhoria: it's not exactly a kind thing to do, but the licence certainly doesn't prevent you
[01:32] <f0rmat> soundray, ok i am trying that
[01:32] <Pelo> SubOne, remove totem-mozilla and install mplayer-mozilla
[01:32] <shukassa> You can turn them all off but if it works for you live you'll be able to test all that before you install it
[01:32] <gligorhoria> linxeh :D i just thought u would know, no need to be rood...
[01:33] <g666RL> shukassa: for reasons of GUI alone, redhat 6 and mandrake sucked more than win951  :)
[01:33] <linxeh> bruenig: yes. my linux desktop is on a remote dev server with 10 other people sharing it. those guages are real useful for finding out when things are going ott
[01:33] <g666RL> 95
[01:33] <linxeh> ahave: is the machine going to be running Ubuntu all the time, or are you dual booting ?
[01:33] <linxeh> gligorhoria: I wasn't being rude - it's just completely offtopic for in here
 yeah Fedora is an aquired taste looks wise
[01:33] <bruenig> hmmm
[01:34] <g666RL> shukassa: tnx, i will surely not use any fancy stuff
[01:34] <gligorhoria> soundray the thing is i don't want any external link, no adds ever! ty :D
[01:34] <gligorhoria> cu all
[01:34] <linxeh> shukassa: you think fedora is bad - try redhat enterprise or slowaris :)
[01:34] <bruenig> ubuntu should make customizing dwm a bit easier
[01:34]  * g666RL wants to kill redhat
  I can't really afford redhat
[01:34] <g666RL> shukassa: chow
[01:34] <shukassa> seeya <g666RL>
[01:35] <linxeh> shukassa: we have to use it at work. I hate it. We use debian wherever we can get away with it, but unfortunately thats not much :(
[01:35] <ahave> linxeh, dual boot just for backup.. :(
[01:35] <adelie42> Help! I got a new keyboard, and certain 'shift accessible' characters require I use a certain shift key, but only in Ubuntu. Any ideas on how to 'fix' this?
[01:35] <ahave> linxeh, otherwise i would go with samba server-esk solution
 I must admit i've stuck with Debian
[01:36] <Pelo> ahave, shit or altgr ?
[01:36] <bruenig> anyways, here is my screen if anyone is interested, feel bad having people upload their stuff without visual reciprocation: http://i28.tinypic.com/whh1er.png
[01:36] <budluva> hey all
[01:36] <LjL> Pelo: best highlight ever
[01:36] <shukassa> I suppose that's an aood choice for recent convert but I just liked the no fuss attitude and the way it never goes wrong when you update it :)
[01:36] <shukassa> Which Fedora does unfortunately
[01:37] <shukassa> To be fair though my son uses Ubuntu and that hasn't gone wrong so far either
[01:37]  * Pelo bangs his head on his desk in shame 
[01:37] <Pelo> jklasdf
[01:37] <Pelo> asjkl;df
[01:37] <Pelo> asdkg
[01:37] <ahave> Pelo, saw what?
[01:37] <FloodBot2> Pelo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:37] <bruenig> uh oh
[01:37] <linxeh> ahave: for backup ?
[01:37] <ahave> linxeh, in case i run into some hardware/software that is windows only... or if i couldnt get linux configured correctly
[01:38] <bruenig> what is Pelo going crazy about
[01:38] <linxeh> shukassa: we use a mix of debian and ubuntu on things we can get away with - other than that its redhat (from v6 up to the rhel5)
[01:38] <GrueTamer> bruenig: pelo broke
[01:38] <Pelo> adelie42, do you mean the shift key or the altgr key ?
[01:38] <linxeh> ahave: hmm, I'd worry about that when it happens :)
[01:38] <ahave> linxeh, i split a 120GB HDD 3 ways.. each one with an OS
[01:38] <kitche> bruenig: umm dwm is easy customizeable kinda hard to customize soemthing that is though source that is already a package
[01:38] <Pelo> bruenig, nvm , LjL  got it
[01:38] <bruenig> but perhaps a distributed source system
[01:38] <ahave> linxeh, yea. my last linux project didnt go so well. so i am cautious.. (linuxice)
[01:38] <elmer> Yes!
[01:39] <elmer> I got my WiFi working!
[01:39] <elmer> Ubuntu is great! Thanks for the help, guys!
  I am thinking of trying Centos at least virtually, just out of curiosity really
[01:39] <linxeh> ahave: I would seriously considered ext3 or something, and get the ext2 stuff for windows (or look at fuse)
[01:39] <adelie42> Pelo: I can only use left shift to get (?<:"] keys
[01:39] <high-freq> um is there a possibility to install by default the linux-restricted drivers so can get wifi enabled cuz this darn card ar5006eg isn't working "out of the box"
[01:39] <ahave> linxeh, can you convince me why? if NTFS works..
[01:40] <ohlawd> high-freq: Are you using Ubuntu?
[01:40] <GrueTamer> ahave: fragmenting
[01:40] <torresmo>  i work at a school, that earned some new computers from the gorvnment
 im from brasil by the way
 and the old ones, are just stoped in a room
 SO i thought about a kiosk that i saw in sao paulo, that allowed the person only to open a single web page.
 but, he pilot program ill do there, its on the library
[01:40] <FloodBot2> torresmo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:40] <ohlawd> Because it "should" be working.
 with 12 cpters
[01:40] <high-freq> ohlawd, yes
[01:40] <linxeh> ahave: I've been burned by ntfs in linux in the past. I'd never use it to write NTFS volumes - but I've not used it since ntfs3g / fuse became popular
[01:40] <CorbinFox> high-freq: similar problem on my system, so i am assuming that the obvious fix (plugging in the computer with an old fashioned cable) is out of the question for some reason
[01:40] <bazhang> high-freq: couple of questions; what kernel do you have, and have you installed the linux-restricted-modules for that kernel; also what is the busID for that card
[01:41] <torresmo>  nice incense dude
[01:41] <shukassa> Can't you do aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-drivers or something very similar
[01:41] <pingu> how can you find what type and directory your storage device is so you can manually mount it
[01:41] <jcgrv06> Hello. I installed xubuntu over the weekend on my ThinkPad 240. It has a NeoMagic graphics card capable of 1024x768 in Windows, but xubuntu won't let me choose anything higher than 800x600. I edited xconf.org to specify bit depth of 16 instead of 24 and add 1024x768 as a valid mode, but didn't help. Any ideas?
[01:41] <Pelo> adelie42, that is not normal , did your previous keybaord do this ? how his this keyboard differnt then the previous one , usb/ps2 ? , check in the keyboard shortcut section if everything is ok and verify the keyboard layout to make sure you have the correct one
[01:41] <unop> pingu, fdisk -l  ought to tell you
[01:41] <high-freq> CorbinFox, yup just wireless ..trying to
[01:41] <ahave> linxeh, hmm.. so you would use ext2... and windows (with correct drivers) can read/write?
[01:41] <linxeh> ahave: to me it is more likely that the ext2/3 driver for windows will work (well understood, open source) than the ntfs drivers in linux, but then I'm biased because I've lost data that way in the past
[01:42] <GrueTamer> pingu: dont paste all the fdisk -l output this time :)
[01:42] <pingu> unop:
[01:42] <CorbinFox> high-freq: perhaps you can try using ndiswrapper or something and just find the required drivers from another computer, then burn to CD or use a USB drive to transfer, then install it
[01:42]  * Pelo is hoping the uwe boll petition cracks 100 k before he goes to bed 
[01:42] <adelie42> Pelo: old keyboard didn't do this, and it didn't do it when I still had M$W for certain games that didn't have full wine support at the time
[01:42] <pingu> GrueTamer: i didn't think it would be that big
[01:42] <high-freq> bazhang, k getin it now....
[01:42] <shukassa> But the restricted drivers didn't work for me - in the end only buying a new adapter really solved it
[01:42] <unop> pingu, never paste in here
[01:42] <pingu> unop: it just gives me a bunch of number
[01:42] <pingu> s
[01:42] <high-freq> CorbinFox, k might have to use thumbdrive and install required files
[01:43] <GrueTamer> pingu: well, pastebin the output, and then tell me how big the hard drive is
[01:43] <adelie42> Pelo: I switched from generic 105pc keyboard to G15, but didn't change anything (I have a G11 keyboard)
[01:43] <pingu> GrueTamer: how do you paste bin, never used that before
[01:43] <linxeh> ahave: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd or http://www.fs-driver.org/
[01:43] <GrueTamer> !pastebin | pingu
[01:43] <Pelo> adelie42, i'm taking an educated guess here that your new keyboard has more keys then the previous one,  check in the prefs menu ,  for the keyboard settings make sure you have the correct model selected
[01:43] <ubotu> pingu: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[01:43] <linxeh> ahave: I used the first one, but the latter is meant to be very good
[01:43] <unop> pingu, those 'numbers' mean things, look at the legend/heading on top for the corresponding columns
[01:43] <f0rmat> soundray, It didn't work
[01:43] <adelie42> Pelo: it is really annoying to be required to use left shift only every time I want a '?'
[01:44] <x0x> «HeLLo» «EvErY» «OnE» «« x0x »» «Iz» «BaCk» «To» «RoCk» «YouR» «HeArT» «AgAiN»   ABC Script
[01:44] <Pelo> adthat was  my only guess , possibly the keyboard is broken,  can you test it in another os ?
[01:44] <CorbinFox> high-freq: I have a ethernet port on mine, but the restricted drivers didnt work for me either.  so just try to find and ndiswrapper it.  it was odd too, since the card would work somewhat, but had no MAC address and some other traits.
[01:44] <x0x> hello
[01:44] <unop> x0x, stop that
[01:44] <bazhang> x0x: not here
[01:44] <x0x> i need help
[01:44] <Pelo> x0x, ask a question
[01:44] <x0x> then where?
[01:44] <ahave> linexh, what about working with max os?
[01:44] <arooni> anyonme familiar with resolvconf ?  what interfaces do i want to apply it to?
[01:44] <linxeh> x0x: /dev/null
[01:44] <high-freq> CorbinFox, had no mac addy...lol that aint right
[01:44] <GrueTamer> !ask | xox
[01:44] <ubotu> xox: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[01:44] <linxeh> ahave: fuse is available for darwin too
[01:44] <adelie42> Pelo: worked fine in Windows when I still had it, and the right shift still works for MOST other keys
[01:44] <x0x> ergh give me time to say
[01:44] <Pelo> x0x,  no scriipts in here, this is a very active support channel, if you havwe an issue just ask
[01:44] <high-freq> CorbinFox, um k i can try with the ndiswrapper i guess
[01:45] <x0x> Pelo ok
[01:45] <jcgrv06> Hello. I have xubuntu newly installed in a 1024x768 capable laptop but it is only giving me 800x600
[01:45] <Pelo> adelie42, is ubuntu new ?
[01:45] <x0x> st3v3n@x0x:~$ ping google.com
[01:45] <x0x> ping: unknown host google.com
[01:45] <x0x> :S
[01:45] <Pelo> jcgrv06, what video card ?
[01:45] <linxeh> ahave: and there is http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsx
[01:45] <x0x> i am getting this error
[01:45] <jcgrv06> NeoMagic
[01:45] <pingu> unop: yea i dont understand them my ext hard drive is 120 G but there is nothing like that on there
[01:45] <linxeh> ahave: http://code.google.com/p/macfuse/
[01:45] <GrueTamer> pingu: did you pastebin yet?
[01:45] <f0rmat> soundray, It didn't do anything :S
[01:45] <pingu> GrueTamer: do i have to like send it to you or something
[01:45] <ahave> linxeh, hmm
[01:46] <bazhang> high-freq: did you get the info I asked for?
[01:46] <linxeh> ahave: I do everything with samba though
[01:46] <x0x> st3v3n@x0x:~$ ping google.com , ping: unknown host google.com i am getting this error... any idea?
[01:46] <linxeh> :)
[01:46] <GrueTamer> !pastebin > pingu
[01:46] <ahave> linxeh, how do i know i wont get burned by ext2 :p
[01:46] <jcgrv06> reduced the bit depth from the default 24 to 16 but didn't help, 800x600 is still max
[01:46] <x0x> peepsalot ok
[01:46] <linxeh> ahave: you will always be able to get your data off :)
[01:46] <high-freq> bazhang, kernel is 2.6.22-14-generic and the busID is ?????
[01:46] <x0x> Pelo ok
[01:46] <pingu> GrueTamer: i did it and i guess it worked
[01:46] <adelie42> Pelo: I am using Hardy, but been using Ubuntu since January 4, 2007 :)
[01:46] <GrueTamer> link please
[01:46] <high-freq> bazhang, busid is from lspci right?
[01:46] <LjL> x0x: please disable any interactive scripts, they're not allowed here
[01:47] <ahave> linxeh, what about xfs, or jts file systems? are there windows drivers for those?
[01:47] <Pelo> adelie42, try asking in #ubuntu+1 then this maybe a hardy beta bug
[01:47] <pingu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62477/
[01:47] <bazhang> high-freq: do you have the linux-restricted-modules installed for that kernel? and to find busID use lspci (just the number, dontpastebin whole output and flood channel)
[01:47] <adelie42> Pelo: ok
[01:47] <linxeh> ahave: fuse should support them, but I've not used either (yet). My next trial will probably be zfs
[01:47] <GrueTamer> pingu: give me a few secs
[01:47] <pingu> GrueTamer: oh i get how it works i feel dumb
[01:47] <GrueTamer> do you care where its mounted?
[01:48] <cyclonut> any statisticians here who happen to have a spare few moments? I know this is offtopic, but a brotha needs help :) http://pastie.caboo.se/176904
[01:48] <shukassa> Hardy isn't out yet is it? so many people are asking about it I'm beginning to tihnk I've missed the announcement or something
[01:48] <unop> pingu, i see your 160GB disk there, partitioned into 4
[01:48] <cyclonut> shukassa: no it isnt, it is in beta
[01:48] <high-freq> bazhang, it is a fresh install of ubuntu so not sure of linux-restricted-modules was installed...i mean fresh installed
[01:48] <ahave> linxeh, these 2 HDD will be used for .iso mpeg2, and .mp3 storage only.. would ext2 be best?
[01:48] <Pelo> cyclonut, try on dal.net in #statistic maybe
[01:48] <jim> cyclonut: #math?
[01:48] <cyclonut> thanky folk, did not know of those channels
[01:48] <bazhang> high-freq: check in synaptic package manager
[01:48] <x0x> LjL ok
[01:48] <high-freq> k
[01:48] <high-freq> brb
[01:48] <jcgrv06> Anybody has xubuntu on a ThinkPad 240?
[01:49] <subpar> is there a specific channel for hardy users?
[01:49] <Pelo> jcgrv06, what video card ?
[01:49] <jcgrv06> NeoMagic
[01:49] <adelie42> subpar: #Ubuntu+1
[01:49] <linxeh> ahave: I would use ext3 (because it has journalling) and it can be made to work most places. you are welcome to try ntfs though :)
[01:49] <subpar> lol nm read the topic
[01:49] <jcgrv06> Pelo: NeoMagic
[01:49] <Pelo> jcgrv06, ok try this,  edit xorg.conf and add the extra resolutions you need in the list,  then restart X
 didn't somone say it was ubuntu+1?
[01:49] <jcgrv06> Pelo: I did already
[01:49] <ahave> linxeh, you almost have talked out of ntfs...
[01:50] <pingu> unop: ya thats my comp
[01:50] <jcgrv06> Pelo: I have 1024x678 & 800x600, but the 1024x768 isn't showing as an option
[01:50] <pingu> unop: kernel, boot, linux, windows
[01:50] <linxeh> ahave: I run osx, linux and windows machines here, and tend to use either fat32 or ext2/3 for general purpose devices. you can always mount an ext3 drive as ext2 in an emergency etc
[01:50] <Pelo> jcgrv06, check the syntax
[01:50] <pingu> unop: and i have it plugged in but it not automatically coming up
[01:51] <ahave> linxeh, i suppose i dont know the difference between ext2 and ext3
[01:51] <Pelo> jcgrv06, can you pastebin your xorg.conf file so I can have a look ?
[01:51] <ahave> linxeh, or any of the file systems for that matter
[01:51] <x0x> Resolving unrealircd.icedslash.com... failed: Temporary failure in name resolution.
[01:51] <x0x> any idea how to fix this problem?
  how much memory does that system have - I could never get a decent res on one laptop and it turned out to be because it had less that 256 ram and not enough vidram to pick up the tab so the higher res always failed?
[01:51] <GrueTamer> pingu: is hal installed?
[01:51] <linxeh> ahave: they are compatible, ext3 has a journal (so it logs what it is going to do before doing it and reporting to the app that it did it. the idea is that you can crash, reboot, and replay the journal, and the FS gets back to a sane state)
[01:51] <Pelo> ahave, I beleive ext2 does not have journaling , what ever that is
[01:51] <unop> pingu, right, so you've plugged another removable drive in and it isnt listed by fdisk -l?
[01:52] <Pelo> x0x, you can try asking in #networking , maybe someone there knows
[01:52] <linxeh> ahave: xfs, jfs, zfs etc all have journalling (as does hpfs+ in osx)
[01:52] <jcgrv06> Pelo: here it goes
[01:52] <pingu> GrueTamer: what is hal?
[01:52] <jcgrv06> Section "Device"
[01:52] <jcgrv06> 	Identifier	"Neomagic Corporation NM2160 [MagicGraph 128XD]"
[01:52] <jcgrv06> 	Driver		"neomagic"
[01:52] <jcgrv06> 	BusID		"PCI:0:9:0"
[01:52] <FloodBot2> jcgrv06: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:52] <jcgrv06> EndSection
[01:52] <Pelo> jcgrv06, nostop
[01:52] <ahave> linxeh, hmm...
[01:52] <Pelo> !pastebin > jcgrv06
[01:52] <linxeh> ahave: wikipedia has a good page on comparing FS - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_systems
[01:52] <ahave> linxeh, so what does NTFS have? why does windows use it?
[01:52] <pingu> unop: no i am trying to mount one that i already have plugged in and it apprently doesn't come up under fdisk -l
[01:53] <linxeh> ahave: windows uses NTFS because microsoft made it and own patents on it :P
[01:53] <ahave> linxeh, or is it just a windows thing.
[01:53] <jim> x0x, try this: ping 216.109.112.135
[01:53] <ahave> linxeh, ah
[01:53] <Pelo> !pastebin > jcgrv06
[01:53] <GrueTamer> pingu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware_abstraction_layer
[01:53] <x0x> jim its work
[01:53] <x0x> jim its works
[01:53] <unop> ahave, NTFS has some unique features that others dont have
[01:53] <ahave> linxeh, wow. i had no idea there were so many FS
[01:53] <linxeh> ahave: ntfs doesnt realy have journalling, but its got something close etc
[01:53] <jim> ok, so you have a connection
[01:53] <GrueTamer> to sum it up simply, it helps with software detection and stuff
[01:53] <jim> but you don't have dns
[01:53] <linxeh> ahave: yeah, some of those are old or are for really strange systems though
[01:54] <unop> linxeh, errm, i wonder what the "ntfs journal" is then? :)
[01:54] <shukassa> I was reading somewhere that Opensolaris has the best FS of all?
[01:54] <x0x> jim hmm how to add dns?
[01:54] <GrueTamer> granted, im not an ubuntu user, i dont know how ubuntu treats hal and how it really would work, but it may be the solution
[01:54] <shukassa> Dependin what they mean by "best"
[01:54] <GrueTamer> especially since ubuntu automounts
[01:54] <PupUseraecb7f> does opensolaris has a livecd?
[01:54] <jim> either install bind9 or find the dns server from your provider and put it in /etc/resolv.conf
[01:54] <Pelo> PupUseraecb7f, wrong channel to ask in
[01:55] <GrueTamer> pingu: maybe http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/admin/hal-device-manager would help
[01:55] <pingu> GrueTamer: so what do you run
[01:55] <linxeh> unop: my bad :)
[01:55] <vox> PupUseraecb7f: ask the opensolaris people
[01:55] <PupUseraecb7f> woot
 I've never used Opensolaris so I don't know
[01:55] <linxeh> ahave: ok, I'm wrong on that - NTFS does have journalling
[01:55] <unop> shukassa, i think you refer to ZFS .. it's available for MacOS and the BSD unices too
[01:55] <x0x> jim i like bind9 :D
[01:55] <GrueTamer> keep in mind, as an arch user, the commands i run arent the same as the ones you run
[01:55] <x0x> how to get it?
[01:55] <Pelo> jcgrv06, still around ?
[01:55] <jim> so apt-get install bind9
[01:55] <pingu> arch?
[01:55] <linxeh> ahave: it never used to though :P
 yeah that does ring a bell
[01:56] <GrueTamer> its a different linux distro
[01:56] <linxeh> ahave: journalling was added to NTFS with Windows 2000 it seems :P
[01:56] <jim> then set your /etc/resolv.conf "nameserver 127.0.0.1"
[01:56] <ahave> linxeh, alright.i think you talked me into ext3.. thanks so much for you help. it was a obvious and silly mistake with the drives not mounting.. i just didnt know how to check and to fix. (it appears to be working now) I am going to go and reset the jumpers to 3.0Gbs and partiton to ext3
[01:56] <pingu> ok jw
[01:56] <shukassa> I am thinking of trying openbsd so I might look at filesyatems more then
[01:56] <ohlawd> Realized animated .gif images work with gThumb as well.
[01:56] <jcgrv06> Pelo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62478/
[01:56] <Pelo> jcgrv06, hold on , let me have a look
[01:56] <linxeh> ahave: glad its working :)
[01:56] <linxeh> ahave: you can always change the FS if you need to later
[01:57] <ahave> linxeh, really?
[01:57] <x0x> jim  * Starting domain name service...                                       [ ok ]
[01:57] <Pelo> jcgrv06, so , just add  1024x768 to the list
[01:57] <ahave> linxeh, without format?
[01:57] <linxeh> ahave: well, you can copy stuff off and reformat ;-)
[01:57] <jim> then set your /etc/resolv.conf "nameserver 127.0.0.1"
[01:57] <ahave> linxeh, ah, ok. :)
[01:57] <jcgrv06> Pelo: It's there: Modes		"1024x768" "800x600"
[01:57] <ahave> linxeh, if i end up filling up these drives i will have no place to put them.. 1.4TB :0
[01:58] <shukassa> I need a bigger HD
[01:58] <unop> ahave, there are tools that allow you to convert from one filesystem to another but they're to be used with caution
[01:58] <PupUseraecb7f> 1.4TB of pr0n?
[01:58] <bazhang> !ot
[01:58] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:58] <shukassa> It's alll this free software :)
[01:58] <linxeh> ahave: ext3 is really stable - we have some fairly big filesystems at work (between 8 and 15TB) with LVM that have been up for ages, and about to set up a 100TB clustered system with it
[01:58] <linxeh> ahave: I'm sure by then you'll have another drive, or could borrow / beg / steal one :)
[01:58] <x0x> jim what else i need to do?
[01:58] <pingu> PupUseraecb7f: if i got your slang right that is a!ot
[01:58] <ahave> linxeh, where do you work?
[01:58] <jim> then set your /etc/resolv.conf "nameserver 127.0.0.1"
[01:58] <ahave> linxeh, if you dont mind me asking
[01:59] <linxeh> ahave: just a government research department in the uk
[01:59] <bradly> Are there any apps that will play music from itunes shared music?
[01:59] <x0x> oh teag
[01:59] <x0x> yeah :D
[01:59] <ahave> linxeh, ah. cool
[01:59] <cjggfgg>  i use tar with the option --newer DATE. but empty directories are tared anyway, even if they are older than DATE. how can i avoid this?
[01:59] <bradly> or even just shared directories
[01:59]  * jim is reminded of the led zep tune "how many more times"
[01:59] <TWP-SirStaal> How do I import my windows bookmarks? (we are talking about firefox of course)
[01:59] <x0x> jim thank you so much :) its working :D
[01:59] <Pelo> jcgrv06, sorry I got confused I thogut you mentions 1280x1024 earlier,   and it doesn't show up in your  screen resolution applet ? weird,  try this,    in the terminal   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ,   reselect your video card, answer all questions as best you can and when in any doudt , use the default provided ,
 spending my tax eh :)
[01:59] <jim> x0x: np
[02:00] <Pelo> TWP-SirStaal, ask in #firefox
[02:00] <x0x> :D
[02:00] <TWP-SirStaal> ok I will
[02:00] <Survivorman> TWP-SirStaal, i use google browser sync so that i can sync my bookmarks with an extension
[02:00] <x0x> |Zippo| nice nick...
[02:00] <TWP-SirStaal> ok will check it up.
[02:01] <high-freq> bazhang, sorry took awhile..lost fone connection with him...busid is 06:00.0 i think
[02:01] <shukassa> and being in the uk makes it just about my bedtime now
[02:01] <PupUseraecb7f> Survivorman: would you put your money on google?
[02:01] <ahave> linxeh, 100TB.. thats big
[02:01] <linxeh> shukassa: something like that :) though really, we are saving your tax because the clustered solution is about 1/100 of the price of the single server solution :)
[02:01] <linxeh> ahave: its fairly big yeah. if this works we will go much bigger :)
[02:02] <linxeh> ahave: ebay have a 6PB cluster for example
[02:02] <linxeh> ahave: yahoo are even bigger
[02:02] <SubOne> Pelo: ty I'll try that
[02:02] <linxeh> ahave: google, well, who knows :)
[02:02] <ahave> linxeh, i thought the max for ext3 is 32GB?
[02:02] <TWP-SirStaal> Got another question. Does Ubuntu got a codex pack?
[02:02] <brinkofacomplex> hi
[02:03] <unop> cjggfgg, i'm sure you can do something along the lines of   find /somewhere \( -type d -links 0 -prune \) -o \( -print0 \) | xargs -0 tar czf archive.tgz
[02:03] <unop> cjggfgg, i havent tested that out, so use it with caution
[02:03] <Pelo> TWP-SirStaal, go in synaptic , install all the gstreamer0.10 packages you see, install lame and mpeg123 and mpeg321
[02:03] <bazhang> high-freq: that is not likely the busID; can you get it again please--also check that the linux-restricted-modules are installed for that kernel in synaptic package manager
[02:03] <TWP-SirStaal> Thanks Pelo
[02:04] <high-freq> k
[02:04] <Survivorman> PupUseraecb7f, well I've been using the extension for sometime. It just stores them remotely, then you can import/sync them into firefox sessions on different computers. Once it's synced, it's synced.
[02:04] <jcgrv06> Pelo: how do you restart X?
[02:04] <Pelo> jcgrv06, ctrl alt backspace
[02:05] <unop> cjggfgg, i forgot to add in conditions for age -- see the -*time options for find
[02:05] <budluva> im trying to compile an mkv to mp4 using a tutorial on ubuntu forums, but entering the ./configure command gives me error: zlib not found on system or in local libs
[02:05] <budluva>      so i tried to install build-essential and zlibc to correct this but after apt-get installing those 2 packages i still get the same error, am i missing something here?
[02:05] <Monobi2> How can I install Ubuntu other than: CD, USB, and NetBoot
[02:05] <linutop> I keep getting errors in amarok that "local file does not exist" what do i do to fix this?
[02:05] <Pelo> !install > Monobi2 check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[02:05] <Survivorman> Monobi2, magic?
[02:06] <bazhang> Monobi2: what other option did you have in mind
[02:06] <Monobi2> Pelo: thank you for the nooby link ^_^
[02:06] <Monobi2> Survivorman: that'd be nice
[02:06] <Lainy> !zh
[02:06] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[02:06] <Pelo> budluva, look in synaptic , install  zlibc and the related -dev pacakge
[02:06] <unop> budluva, you might need this package .. zlib1g-dev
[02:06] <linxeh> PupUseraecb7f: I use the delicious service, and sync my bookmarks to that - I can get to them from anywhere then
[02:06] <Survivorman> Monobi2, are you having problems installing?
[02:07] <budluva> pelo, sudo apt-get install zlibc doesn't do the same thing?
[02:07] <budluva> :P
[02:07] <unop> budluva, no
[02:07] <budluva> zlib1g-dev ahh
[02:07] <Pelo> budluva, the package might not be called zlibc
[02:07] <bazhang> Monobi2: this is a support channel; if you have issues then please ask about them
[02:07] <Tu13es> what happens if I add an entry to /etc/fstab and then I boot without the drive present?
[02:07] <Pelo> bazhang, he was
[02:08] <Pelo> Tu13es, it will be ignored
[02:08] <Monobi2> bazhang: well, I asked my problem.
[02:08] <high-freq> bazhang, ok yes the linux-restricted-modules is installed and the busID i can't seem to find in lspci
[02:08] <unop> Tu13es, mount fails on that entry but continues on
[02:08] <Tu13es> cool, thanks
[02:08] <jcgrv06> Pelo: thanks, I tried but didn't work. I had tried in the past, but I gave it another try. Still 800x600.
[02:08] <budluva> ok installing zlib1g-dev worked
[02:08] <SubOne> Pelo: i'm not seeing an mplayer-mozilla in the repo
[02:08] <budluva> thanks for the quick help guys
[02:08] <bazhang> Monobi2: try wubi then; all the others we have answered
[02:08] <Monobi2> bazhang: thanks
[02:08] <Pelo> jcgrv06, maybe try asking in #xubuntu , they might know better, or also check in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[02:08] <SubOne> Pelo: nvm its mozilla-mplayer
[02:09] <cjggfgg> unop: maybe i can avoid to tar empty directories at all? your suggestion is to hard for me :-(
[02:09] <Pelo> SubOne, might the be the other way around
[02:09] <Pelo> SubOne, yeaH I get them confused
[02:09] <jcgrv06> Pelo: Thanks
[02:09] <Survivorman> SubOne, reverse them
[02:09] <SubOne> Survivorman: ty, I just said that
[02:10] <Pelo> bazhang, you are aware that wubi installs and ubuntu image thatruns vm inside windows right ? it's not an actual install
[02:10] <Survivorman> SubOne, sorry, too fast for me.
[02:10] <SubOne> flash seems to be slow, any way to make flash faster? perhaps a different install?
[02:10] <x0x> !openssl
[02:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openssl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:10] <x0x> !ssl
[02:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ssl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:11] <Pelo> SubOne, no,  just rightclick and change the buffer size , make it buffer the full file before playing
[02:11] <SubOne> !flash
[02:11] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[02:11] <Monobi2> xox: ?
[02:11] <x0x> how to install ssl?
[02:11] <SubOne> Pelo: it's not downloading thats making it slow
[02:11] <Pelo> !info ssl | x0x
[02:11] <ubotu> x0x: Package ssl does not exist in gutsy
[02:11] <alexjp> !ubuntu
[02:11] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[02:11] <x0x> :O
[02:11] <Pelo> x0x, do you mean ssh ?
[02:11] <Pelo> !ssh | x0x
[02:11] <ubotu> x0x: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[02:11] <x0x> Pelo nope. ssl
[02:11] <alexjp> !x0x
[02:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x0x - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:12] <bazhang> alexjp: you can /msg ubotu for fun if you wish
[02:12] <Pelo> alexjp, if you want to play with the bot do it in private  /msg ubotu !trigger
[02:12] <high-freq> whree do i find the busid from lspci?
[02:12] <PupUseraecb7f> is there a download link on the official ubuntu site?
[02:12] <Pelo> high-freq, wut ?
[02:12] <high-freq> the busID from a wireless card
[02:12] <thoreauputic> high-freq: try lspci -vvn for more output
[02:12] <Pelo> PupUseraecb7f, yes , follow the download or the get ubuntu signs
[02:12] <amenado> am trying an install using debootstrap but also using the cdrom.. am getting this error  chroot /myinstall/dir mount -t proc proc /proc   anyone familiar with a trick to get around this?
[02:13] <cjggfgg> how can i find all files newer than DATE?
[02:13] <SubOne> Pelo: it's not download time that I'm talking about, flash is just slow, like for example my mouse actions are always a few seconds behind my actual mouse cursor.
[02:13] <unop> cjggfgg, i really don't see a way tar can do something like this .. but exploit the way tar works ..  tar czf archive.tgz $(command that returns a lit of files)
[02:13] <Pelo> amenado, put the error msg in the search of the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[02:13] <x0x> Pelo i want to install unrealircd with SSL support
[02:13] <Pelo> SubOne, got desktop effects working ? try turning them off
[02:13] <x0x> so i need openssl installed on my ubuntu
[02:14] <Pelo> x0x, look in synaptic , do a search for ssl ,  menu > system > admin > synaptic package manager
[02:14] <PupUseraecb7f> amenado: what an old thing, debootstrap?
[02:14] <unop> cjggfgg, given a numeric value $N that is age in days .. you can use .. find /path -mtime -$N
[02:14] <x0x> Pelo i dont have GNU interface... just ssh ;p
[02:14] <amenado> PupUseraecb7f-> what do you mean an old thing? its not old is it?
[02:14] <unop> amenado, did you mount the /proc filesystem into the chroot?
[02:15] <high-freq> oh wow..lspci -vn all mumbo jumbo to me...i still don't see any busID
[02:15] <high-freq> is there supposed to say somethin bout busid
[02:15] <Pelo> x0x,  sudo apt-cache search ssl
[02:15] <evand> Pelo: Wubi is *not* a virtual machine.
[02:15] <unop> amenado, and is that the exact error message yo get?
[02:15] <thoreauputic> x0x:  apt-cache search ssl | less
[02:15] <ciscoguru> hmmm
[02:15] <bazhang> amenado: is this on an existing install? you might try unetbootin for that; or was this the live iso you had mounted before
[02:15] <PupUseraecb7f> amenado: afaik, debootstrap is not working in source level
[02:15] <amenado> unop am not at that stage yet, thats just the error spewed out running  debootstrap
[02:15] <ciscoguru> it seems 8.04 got delayed for 5 months, due to a hidden root kit
[02:15] <thoreauputic> Pelo: apt-cache search doesn't require sudo :)
[02:15] <Pelo> evand, I've been told differently but whatever
[02:15] <bazhang> ciscoguru: hardy rumours in #ubuntu+1 please
[02:15] <ciscoguru> Heron got Hardied, by "t3h" root kit
[02:15]  * Pelo is getting corrected by everyone tonight
[02:16] <cjggfgg> unop: and an oportunity to give the DATE directly? as in tar?
[02:16] <evand> Pelo: Trust me, I'm a fairly authoriative source on this.  Wubi installs are just the root filesystem (ext3) as a file in an NTFS filesystem.
[02:16] <unop> cjggfgg, to use find, you need to convert DATE into N
[02:17] <cjggfgg> unop: any automatic way to do that?
[02:17] <Pelo> evand, but it still is not a full install correct ? you can'T boot into it directly you need windows running
[02:17] <amenado> unop  yeah thats pretty much the error,  Failure trying to run: chroot /myinstall/dir mount -t proc proc /proc
[02:17] <evand> Pelo: no
[02:17] <evand> Pelo: It *is* a full install, you boot straight into Ubuntu.
[02:17] <x0x> !instal
[02:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about instal - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:17] <x0x> !install
[02:17] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[02:17] <Odd-rationale> Pelo: think of it as kind of like a loopmounted partition.
[02:17] <unop> cjggfgg, errm no, needs to be scripted unfortunately
[02:17] <Pelo> evand, ok , I'll look into it further, IM a bit lost frankly
[02:18] <amenado> bazhang it works if I use the  http instead of a cdrom with the liveiso
[02:18] <evand> Pelo: Quite alright, I just wanted to clear that up so you knew.
[02:18] <Pelo> Odd-rationale, evand thanks for the heads up
[02:18] <evand> Pelo: anytime :)
[02:18] <fatguy> couldn't delete /etc/ndiswrapper/mrv8335.inf: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[02:18] <x0x> Pelo i found openssl - Secure Socket Layer (SSL) binary and related cryptographic tools
[02:18] <fatguy> whats that mean?
[02:18] <x0x> Pelo now how do i install it?
[02:19] <unop> amenado, sounds like the mount executable (within the chroot) hasn't been installed yet -- you can do that manually from outside the chroot i think it's  mount --bind /proc /path/to/choot/proc
[02:19] <Pelo> x0x, sudo apt-get install  <packagename>
[02:19] <amenado> PupUseraecb7f-> source level? umm it worked earlier, but i was using the http as the option to debotstrap, this error am getting now is if I use the cdrom
[02:19] <x0x> Pelo tnx
[02:20] <EvanR> i am wondering if anyone has gotten canon pixma ip1600 to work with ubuntu
[02:20] <fatguy> anyone help?
[02:20] <EvanR> and is in this channel and is not idel
[02:20] <EvanR> idle
[02:21] <Pelo> EvanR, hardly this is the bussiest channel on this network
[02:21] <benanzo> anyone know how to use curl to POST to a form?  I need to batch unsubscribe about 300 email addresses from a mailer
[02:21] <amenado> unop-> perhaps my attempt to use the cdrom is futile anyways, this is my attempt not to download from the archive but get it from cdrom...its just my experiment on another way to install..
[02:21] <Pelo> EvanR, try uisng the ip1500 driver, I beleive , or the closest model number in the list , it shoud work
[02:22] <EvanR> Pelo: according to the various printer sites and forums, ip2200 should work, but it isnt
[02:22] <unop> amenado, you using the CD as the repository for debootstrap?
[02:22] <amenado> unop yeah i tried to, using the CD as the repository
[02:22] <danb1234> hey
[02:22] <Pelo> EvanR, try lower
[02:22] <EvanR> Pelo: however i am not using ubuntu, i am just wondering if that is what the procedure is on ubuntu to get it to work
[02:22] <Pelo> EvanR, I believe there is a ip1200 in the list
[02:22] <danb1234> has ne 1 done an install on a pavilion dv9000?
[02:22] <EvanR> Pelo: hmm. ok i will try different drivers
[02:23] <bazhang> danb1234: what is your install issue
[02:23] <unop> amenado, i'm fairly sure that won't work .. the CD doesn't have all packages packaged as .deb (atleast the ones that debootstrap needs to construct the base system)
[02:23] <Pelo> EvanR, ubuntu uses CUPS so it's just about picking a number in a list
[02:23] <x0x> what i need to do if i get this error? checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[02:23] <EvanR> Pelo: i am using cups, and installed the driver recommended here http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-PIXMA_iP1600
[02:23] <Pelo> x0x, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:23] <danb1234> bazhang: black screen after i select the install option
[02:24] <EvanR> Pelo: everything works, no errors in the log, nothing, except the printer does not move
[02:24] <Pelo> EvanR, checking
[02:24] <x0x> thanks
[02:24] <n3kr0> danb1234 is it a Notebook?
[02:24] <amenado> unop ahh i see, i didnt realize that, anyhow, my attempt earlier using debootstrap seems way too long for an install.. way too many files to download from archives..
[02:24] <bazhang> danb1234: this is the livecd? have you considered the alternate cd and is this a dual boot or whole disk
[02:24] <Pelo> EvanR, paper ? power ? cable connected propperly ?
[02:24] <amenado> am giving up on that method
[02:24] <danb1234> n3kr0 ya
[02:25] <EvanR> Pelo: usb cable is in, since the kde cups configurator auto detect that it was connected, power is on it will do an auto head cleaning after power on, and i have paper in it.
[02:25] <thoreauputic> amenado: debootstrap is good fro minimal installs on a fast connection :)
[02:25] <n3kr0> danb1234 is a amd 64?
[02:25] <icanhasadmin> danb1234: why aren't you doing the install from a live cd?
[02:25] <amenado> thoreauputic-> i believed you are absolutely correct
[02:25] <redtide> anyone know any reason that min/max of windows should be choppy...i have a pretty high end system with my proprietary graphics drivers installed
[02:25] <thoreauputic> amenado: seems a bit pointless if you have a CD ?
[02:26] <danb1234> bazhang: i've tried the alternate and it says it installed but i get the same screen when i try boot
[02:26] <Pelo> EvanR, that page says works mostly ,  so I don'T know what to tell you ,  you can try looking it up in the forum also www.ubuntuforums.org
[02:26] <unop> amenado, hmm, depends on what you are wanting the chrooted install to do .. but the base system only requires ~50 packages
[02:26] <danb1234> intel Centrino duo
[02:26] <EvanR> yes ubuntuforms comes up a lot on google
[02:26] <EvanR> mostly people going wtf
[02:26] <amenado> thoreauputic-> yes, correct, but i was trying a suggestion..am off that method..
[02:26] <bazhang> danb1234: what card and what drivers and how installed
[02:26] <brinkof4complex> wtf!
[02:26] <danb1234> black screen
[02:26] <n3kr0> danb1234 have you tryed with idle=poll parameter
[02:26] <icanhasadmin> danb1234: why aren't you doing the install from a live cd?
[02:27] <amenado> unop-> i was just trying a different method of installation thats all..
[02:27] <dope1> I'm thinking my harddrive is toast.. when installing from live cd and partitions formatting, it's been stuck at 5% for a half hour now
[02:27] <danb1234> bazhang: card?
[02:27] <Pelo> ok ,I'M off for tonight , have fun folks
[02:27] <thoreauputic> amenado: I use debootstrap to start the build of my live CD without X - works fine. The base system is only ~60MB or so IIRC
[02:27] <dope1> Creating ext3 file system / in parition #1 of SCSI1 (0,0,0)...
[02:28] <dope1> i just bought this 320Gb drive six months ago
[02:28] <bazhang> SeaPhor: please no pm; tell him yourself thanks
[02:28] <danb1234> tried the live cd and got a black screen
[02:28]  * saltedlight morning... :)
[02:28] <dope1> danb1234 - hit ctrl-alt-F1 and see if it's doing anything
[02:28]  * NoTownKasper sniffles.
[02:28] <amenado> thoreauputic-> really only 60MB? cool, am experimenting for now, i have not customized the livecd yet..but it will be next
[02:29] <NoTownKasper> Anyone familiar with scsi drives, Windows XP, and Grub?
[02:29] <dope1> does paritions formatting take forever?
[02:29] <n3kr0> danb1234 have you tryed with idle=poll parameter ???
[02:29] <thoreauputic> amenado: that's without the kernel etc - and it's *really* basic :)
[02:29] <danb1234> idle=poll?
[02:29] <unop> amenado, what you could do is use some of the packages in your /var/cache/apt/archives/* as a respository .. apt-proxy could help here
[02:29] <SeaPhor> bazhang: I'm a n00b and would like better knowledge of what i am suggesting before i do, Thought you would have that
[02:29] <bazhang> NoTownKasper: you need to ask a much more specific question if you wish to get help
[02:29] <n3kr0> danb1234 yes, on boot
[02:29] <thoreauputic> amenado: you follow the base chroot debootstrap with apt-getting what you need
[02:30] <danb1234> what do u do fo that?
[02:30] <amenado> thoreauputic-> thats like competing with damn small linux..hehe
[02:30] <bazhang> SeaPhor: please no PM without asking thanks
[02:30] <kindofabuzz> go Tigers!!!!
[02:30] <danb1234> err for
[02:30] <n3kr0> danb1234 i had the same problem installing on a notebook
[02:30]  * saltedlight wonders how long will be these 16 long days 'till ubuntu 8.04 ... :))
[02:30] <thoreauputic> amenado: well, not really - the base system is quite incomplete from debootstrap
[02:30] <cjggfgg> unop: find knows the opt '-newer file'. can i create a dummy file with a given DATE as modification time?
[02:30] <amenado> thoreauputic-> I will keep that in mind
[02:30] <brian|lfs> the tigers are good this year
[02:30] <n3kr0> danb1234 do you have amd64 or i386 cd?
[02:31] <unop> cjggfgg, sure .. see the touch manpage
[02:31] <amenado> unop thanks for that tip -- I will look into using an apt-proxy
[02:31] <bazhang> saltedlight: please dont do that; do you have a support question
[02:31] <SeaPhor> bazhang: No worries, WON'T happen again, I'll ask someone else to lok at it before i use it
[02:31] <danb1234> amd 64
[02:31] <thoreauputic> amenado: incomplete as in doesn't have any extras but does have apt-get dpkg etc.
[02:31] <NoTownKasper> lol Ok. Here it is. I installed Ubuntu last week as a recovery measure, and decided to stick with it. Yesterday I installed Windows XP on the remaining half of the HD. This morning, I got grub up and working enough to boot into ubuntu, Gusty if it matters, but I can't seem to get the snipet right to add windows XP into the grub loader.
[02:31] <x0x> is there any problem if i use root account?
[02:31] <n3kr0> danb1234 have you tried enter into safe mode?
[02:31] <bazhang> !grub | NoTownKasper
[02:31] <ubotu> NoTownKasper: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:32] <LjL> x0x: there can be. why do you need to use it? sudo can do everything that root can
[02:32] <amenado> thoreauputic-> yes, i noticed that earlier, thats why i said, i have the impression of much much longer install to have a complete one.
[02:32] <NoTownKasper> Thanks, but I've read them.
[02:32] <danb1234> ya that didnt work
[02:32] <x0x> LjL ok thanks...
[02:32] <jalari> I am thinking of getting another graphics card so I can have a dual head setup...is there any reasons using two different cards instead of one with dual support built in would not work
[02:32] <danb1234> :(
[02:32] <thoreauputic> amenado: as I said, a fast connection helps :)
[02:33] <amenado> yep..
[02:33] <high-freq> where is the /path/to/kernel/source?
[02:33] <n3kr0> danb1234 try pressing F6 and adding this: idle=poll acpi=off
[02:33] <thoreauputic> amenado: my build script for INX builds the live CD in  about 15 minutes including download time, but I am on adsl2+
[02:34] <high-freq> i see linux-headers in /usr/src/
[02:34] <thoreauputic> amenado: and the CD is quite small ( 185 MB or so)
[02:34] <unop> high-freq, have you installed the linux-headers package?
[02:34] <high-freq> ya
[02:34] <high-freq> i have...but a fresh install?
[02:34] <unop> high-freq, then do this ..  dpkg -L linux-headers
[02:35] <high-freq> buddies laptop isn't on net..tryin to get his wireless card to work
[02:35] <high-freq> isn't on net
[02:35] <amenado> thoreauputic-> whats the rate up/down on that adsl+  ?
[02:35] <unop_> high-freq, this should help then ..  dpkg -L linux-headers
[02:35] <danb1234> ne other ideas as i am on the computer i want to install it on now under windows
[02:35] <techqbert> I have a p4 1.8ghz.  Should I use a 386 or generic kernel?
[02:35] <high-freq> k
[02:35] <x0x> -bash: ./unreal: Permission denied
[02:36] <x0x> how to fix it now :S
[02:36] <unop_> x0x, chmod +x ./unreal
[02:36] <SeaPhor> danb1234: if that doesn't work try hitting F6 and arrow down to the last line, remove "Quiet" and "Splash" and type "vga=771"
[02:36] <thoreauputic> amenado: I get about 1.2-1.4 MB.sec down, and around 70 KB/sec up
[02:36] <high-freq> unop_ nope doesn't work..not even on mine
[02:36] <NoTownKasper> sudo fdisk -l
[02:36] <x0x> unop_ chmod: changing permissions of `./unreal': Operation not permitted
[02:36] <NoTownKasper> oops. Sorry.
[02:36] <unop_> high-freq, what do you mean "doesn't work" ?
[02:36] <unop_> high-freq, does it return anything at all?
[02:37] <thoreauputic> amenado: that's MB, not Mnits :)
[02:37] <unop_> x0x, prepend that with sudo then
[02:37] <nickrud> techqbert generic
[02:37] <thoreauputic> umm s/Mnits/Mbits
[02:37] <danb1234> ive tried adding just vga=771 on 7.10 and it didnt display but i got a display on 8.04
[02:38] <x0x> ./bin/sh: ./unreal: Permission denied
[02:38] <x0x> ;s
[02:38] <amenado> thoreauputic-> theres that new fios  .. i wonder what the rate is on that?
[02:38] <thoreauputic> danb1234: known framebuffer bug in 7.10
[02:38] <Starnestommy> x0x: chmod +x ./unreal
[02:38] <Monobi2> Quick question... with WUBI ... do I start it from GRUB ?
[02:38] <bazhang> danb1234: installed Hardy?
[02:38] <thoreauputic> amenado: no idea :)
[02:38] <unop_> x0x, sudo chmod +x ./unreal; ./unreal
[02:38] <x0x> still doesnt work
[02:38] <SeaPhor> danb1234: did you remove "Quiet" and "Splash"
[02:38] <danb1234> but 8.04 got about 90% on the loading screen and then went blank
[02:39] <NoTownKasper> Any other ideas?
[02:39] <danb1234> not on that trial
[02:39] <high-freq> unop_, nope wrong command or somethin
[02:39] <thoreauputic> SeaPhor: no, the framebuffer is broken in  7.10
[02:39] <unop_> danb1234, hardy questions in #ubuntu+1 please
[02:39] <x0x> erghhhhhhhh its doesnt work :( unop_
[02:39] <thoreauputic> SeaPhor: trust me on this :)
[02:39] <redtide> hello, i have a high end system with my proprietary driver installed. can anyone please tell me how i can find out what is causing my min/max of windows to be choppy please?
[02:39] <danb1234> you think those could be causing the problem?
[02:39] <LjL> danb1234: that's possibly because 8.04 is not a stable version and repository contents are changing all the time. #ubuntu+1 is the channel for testers brave enough to try it out
[02:39] <unop_> high-freq, dpkg -L linux-headers #(verify the spelling)
[02:39] <SeaPhor> thoreauputic: good to know,,,, thank you!
[02:39] <techqbert> nickrud: How do I remove 386 kernel?  remove linux-image-386? will ubuntu then automagically boot generic for me?
[02:40] <unop_> x0x, calm down, what did the command return now?
[02:40] <Monobi2> anyone know about wubi and if it starts from the GRUB menu?
[02:40] <Starnestommy> x0x: what does 'ls -l ./unreal' say?
[02:40] <high-freq> unop_,  lol i cut/pasted hehe
[02:40] <x0x> ./bin/sh: ./unreal: Permission denied
[02:40] <x0x> -rwx--x--x 1 root root 4061 2008-04-07 21:29 ./unreal
[02:40] <high-freq> unop_,  Package `linux-headers' is not installed. ...but i have on my system linux headers....ooh maybe not for new kernel yet or somethin
[02:41] <Starnestommy> x0x: sudo chmod +r ./unreal
[02:41] <thoreauputic> SeaPhor: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/129910 for the full saga
[02:41] <unop_> x0x, sudo chmod a+rx ./unreal; ./unreal
[02:41] <x0x> unop_ COOL its works now :D thanks
[02:41] <shulman> I'm running Gusty with the nvidia with dual screens. I'm unable to play videos on screen2, the video freezes or just goes bright green. Other windows are not effected. Is there a reason for this?
[02:41] <unop_> high-freq, if dpkg tells you linux-headers is not installed .. believe it
[02:41] <high-freq> wow...i do have linux-headers-2.6.22-14-386  so why didn't dpkg -L linux-headers  spit out that i don't have headers
[02:41] <nickrud> techqbert remove linux-image-386 linux-image-2.6.22-15-386 linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-15-386 ; linux-image-386 depends on the second two, you need to remove all three
[02:41] <SeaPhor> thoreauputic: would you be willing to send me a pm so i could show you the "how-to" that helped me and a few others out, to let me know if it needs more?
[02:41] <somethingcomplex> i installed ubuntu a few weeks ago... can't get audio to work + system won't hibernate or stand-by; if it goes into stand-by on its own i have to reboot... can anyone help?
[02:41] <thoreauputic> unop: try dpkg -L linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[02:42] <LjL> high-freq: because linux-headers-2.6.22-14-386 is not linux-headers.
[02:42] <unop_> high-freq, try this then .. dpkg -L linux-headers-2.6.22-14-386
[02:42] <Randocal> Having some trouble with a printer here, Running Ubuntu 7.10 with a Lexmark z51 hooked up via USB. It will print about 2/3 of a page, and then my power button starts blinking and the page doesn't continue feeding
[02:42] <LjL> high-freq: and i'm not sure why you're using a 386 kernel...? (assuming those headers match the running kernel)
[02:42] <SeaPhor> thoreauputic: WILL check it out! thank you! :-))
[02:42] <high-freq> yes
[02:42] <high-freq> what this install gave me
[02:42] <high-freq> i dunno
[02:42] <thoreauputic> SeaPhor: there's a work-around using initramfs-tools and so on
[02:43] <LjL> !enter | high-freq
[02:43] <ubotu> high-freq: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:43] <high-freq> just utilizing my keys
[02:43] <Sanctusorium> Hey guys, I just installed Feisty on my computer and I need to download a bunch of updates.  On my college connection, it is going to take about 6 hours.  I need to use windows for a bit...  If I cancel the update, will it delete all the files I have already got downloaded?
[02:43] <thoreauputic> SeaPhor: basically you just remove fb modules from the blacklist, add them in initramfs-tools config and re-run update-initramfs -u
[02:43] <techqbert> nickrud: thanks so much
 just utilizing my keys <--- LOL
[02:43] <SeaPhor> thoreauputic: I am such a n00b, for now anyway, i need steps to help me learn
[02:43] <high-freq> hehe
[02:44] <nickrud> techqbert and to answer your second question, forgot to on the first line: it will automatically boot -generic , install linx-generic to get the best benefit from generic
[02:44] <thoreauputic> SeaPhor: everything is releative - there's always mor eto learn :)
[02:44] <thoreauputic> *relative
[02:44] <kyncani> Sanctusorium: no, it should keep them
[02:44] <techqbert> nickrud: I see.  Sounds easy enough.  Thanks again.
[02:44] <high-freq> well just gettin frustrated on why this ar5006eg atheros wireless isn't working on a fresh install on diff laptop
[02:44] <Sanctusorium> Kyncani: Thanks muchly!  ;)
[02:44] <Redian> Hey, I gave my friend an ubuntu livecd to install off of, and it fails the install, afterwards when she tries to go back to windows, she just gets the black screen with a white flashing cursor that usually appears right before grub loads. I think the problem is in grub, because she can't get into anyhing on her hard drive, is there anyway she can fix this?
[02:45] <SeaPhor> thoreauputic: but just trying to install from the live cd, or even the alt cd, you have to get to a certain poin,,,
[02:45] <unop_> !grub | Redian
[02:45] <ubotu> Redian: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:45] <high-freq> which says its in the linux-restricted-modules and well its new cd's from ubuntu and i'm stumped on how to enable this ath0
[02:45] <bazhang> high-freq: did you ever get the correct busID? could be that ubuntu identifies that as 5006 when in fact it is the 5007
[02:45] <aleka> I can not use my keyboard during the GRUB menu, so it always goes to the default. Only way to use my other OS is to change the default OS in grub and let it boot into that default... My Question is, after changing the default OS, how can I use a Live CD and still access the Grub menu.lst and make changes to it (do i need to chroot?)?
[02:46] <NoTownKasper> So I take it no one knows much about grub except for the link-bot trigger word? :(
[02:46] <thoreauputic> SeaPhor: frankly at this point 7.10 is not really a sensible installation option IMO - hardy beta is pretty stable I think
[02:46] <thoreauputic> SeaPhor: but of course it could break any time, so ;p
[02:46] <unop_> aleka, check the BIOS for options on enabling USB keyboard and mouse support .. and yes, you need to chroot into the system froma  live CD to make changes to it
[02:46] <high-freq> bazhang, um...lspci doesn't have busID from what i see even on mine
[02:46] <jwala> hey, my mic works fine on live cd, but not after install. i checked all the alsa config files and they are identical on both live cd and hdd install. any idea what's wrong??
[02:47] <high-freq> i'll show mine which is bcm
[02:47] <damo22> !dvd
[02:47] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:47] <bazhang> NoTownKasper: you need to describe what you have tried and the errors you have gotten
[02:47] <nickrud> NoTownKasper you need to ask the question every 10 minutes or so, new people drop in but unless they see the actual question they'll usually ignore commentary
[02:47] <LjL> thoreauputic: such as when you upgrade to it, but you happen to do it just in the middle of a kernel upgrade being propagated to mirrors, and you end up with half a kernel and half another
[02:47] <thoreauputic> high-freq: you can see Bus ID with  lspci -vvn
[02:47] <Redian> unop: It doesn't seem to have anything on repairing grub, I was wondering if there's something I'm missing. I really don't know what to tell her...
[02:47] <SeaPhor> thoreauputic: will you look at this and let me know what to change?   http://www.wood-bee-co.com/woodbeeco/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=15&Itemid=36
[02:47] <thoreauputic> LjL: fun :)
[02:47] <high-freq> thoreauputic, lemme check again
[02:47] <bazhang> high-freq: that is odd; should have it unless there is something seriously wrong
[02:47] <thoreauputic> high-freq: use grep -i bus maybe
[02:47] <nickrud> LjL that'll teach you to always do upgrades a day or so late ;)
[02:47] <unop_> Redian, see the part about installing grub after installing windows -- that procedure can be used to repair grub
[02:48] <aleka> unop_: I can not do anything in the BIOS to enable legacy USB support (long story... PS/2 ports got messed up before I enabled USB support in my BIOS). SO I only get one click on the keyboard at boot time....Please more info on chroot and how I can do it
[02:48] <SeaPhor> thoreauputic: and yes, I know its a n00b's point of view
[02:48] <yoav> hey, just installed kubuntu, got a nvidia graphic card, can anyone give me a link or help me set more than 800x600 resolution
[02:48] <high-freq> 02:03.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[02:48] <xtreme> When I start Ubuntu cant I find one of my disk (guess it's not mounted). Can find it in GParted and if I type  "sudo fdisk -l". How to I mount it? Can I do it with GParted?
[02:48] <high-freq> that is from me...i don't see a busID...but anyhow lemme check the lspci --vvn
[02:48] <budluva> is anyone here a video guru?
[02:48] <unop_> aleka, http://gentoo-wiki.com/Chroot_from_a_livecd
[02:48] <xtreme> its an intern harddrive
[02:48] <thoreauputic> SeaPhor: everyone's a noob in one way ot another - there are always lots of things we don't know
[02:48] <Odd-rationale> xtreme: sudo mount /dev/sbd1 /mnt
[02:48] <nickrud> xtreme you'd add a line to /etc/fstab , defining the partition and where you want it
[02:49] <[1]sasa> espanish
[02:49] <aleka> unop_: Thanks
[02:49] <[1]sasa> spanish
[02:49] <bazhang> !es
[02:49] <ubotu> Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[02:49] <nickrud> !es [1]sasa
[02:49] <[1]sasa> #es
[02:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about es [1]sasa - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:49] <b4l74z4r> i've changed my application font to bold in ubuntu but the various application's taskbar entries doesn't stay bold, what's causing that?
[02:49] <pschorf> In PuTTY, whenever you select text it is automatically copied, and then pasted when you right-click.  Is there a way to do that in ubuntu?
[02:49] <Randocal> When my print job stalls I open up a terminal window and i see three process named "gs" that appear to be frozen or something, they are using 30% CPU each
[02:49] <nickrud> pschorf use the middle button
[02:49] <NoTownKasper> Installed Ubuntu, then, later, installed Windows XP. XP doesn't show in the grub menu, so I added it manually by gediting it into the menu.lst. The problem is, no matter what partition I select I either get the grub error "Unable to boot specified partition" or something similar, or 'Incorrect Device selected.' Windows is on the3rd partition on this drive, but, oddly enough, it's set as active by the windows installer.
[02:50] <nickrud> pschorf to paste, that is
[02:50] <pschorf> nickrud: thanks
[02:50] <thoreauputic> SeaPhor: for example, I know nothing about ATI cards etc ;-)
[02:50] <budluva> im trying to re mux an x264 .mkv to .mp4 to play on xbox360, now i am reading a tutorial and its asking me to change the 67 64 00 33 byte to 67 64 00 29 with hexedit, and i have no clue how to change that byte, im trying the search in hexedit and its not finding that byte can someone lend a hand?
[02:50] <unop_> pschorf, or both buttons if you dont have a middle button
[02:50] <orudie> does open office has an email client such as outlook in windows?
[02:50] <nickrud> NoTownKasper how about putting your menu.lst on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:51] <unop_> orudie, no, but there's evolution which is like outlook
[02:51] <nickrud> orudie no, but it has some integration with evolution
[02:51] <SeaPhor> thoreauputic: i know i hate them!, and thats on windows or linux
[02:51] <LjL> orudie: i don't think so, it's just an office suite. but there is evolution and thunderbird (and who knows how many others...)
[02:51] <nickrud> orudie if you install openoffice.org-evolution , it integrates the address book for bulk mailing and the like
[02:52] <NoTownKasper> Um.
[02:52] <NoTownKasper> Why am I required to enable javascript...?
[02:52] <NoTownKasper> Grrr.
[02:52] <thoreauputic> SeaPhor: the old 9200 Radeon works OK with OSS drivers on my iBook with Ubuntu ( including compiz etc.) But it isn't particularly quick ( around 850 FPS in glxgears  I think)
[02:52] <nickrud> NoTownKasper use another if you prefer
[02:53] <nickrud> NoTownKasper like pastebin.ca or some such
[02:53] <orudie> i know this is offtopic but how can i enable spell checker in xchat ?
[02:53] <bazhang> NoTownKasper: you can also install pastebinit and cat and pipe it that
[02:53] <tonyyarusso> orudie: try in #xchat perhaps if nobody answers.
[02:53] <SeaPhor> thoreauputic: well I love that Nvidia is putting out native linux drivers!
[02:53] <x0x> i want to install Pure-FTPd  ;s
[02:53] <orudie> tonyyarusso, i asked that there no one answered
[02:54] <x0x> or any ftpd
[02:54] <thoreauputic> orudie: I think it might be turned on by default in the hardy version, but I would have to check
[02:54] <tonyyarusso> x0x: vsftpd is the server team's recommendation.
[02:54] <nickrud> orudie in settings->preferences, interfaces->text box
[02:54] <damo22> !flash
[02:54] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[02:54] <NoTownKasper> There, pasted.
[02:54] <thoreauputic> SeaPhor: they are still binary blobs without source code, unfortunately
[02:54] <x0x> tonyyarusso tnx
[02:54] <bazhang> NoTownKasper: link?
[02:54] <nickrud> NoTownKasper so, now give us a link so we can see it ;)
[02:54] <NoTownKasper> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62481/
[02:55] <NoTownKasper> Was copying it. :P
[02:55] <high-freq> ok the busID to the ar5006eg is 168c:001c (rev 01)  does that sound right?
[02:55] <thoreauputic> SeaPhor: the Nouveau project is trying to reverse engineer open source drivers for nvidia though
[02:55] <NoTownKasper> I'm trying to multi-task 12 things at once here. :P
[02:55] <bazhang> high-freq: aye
[02:55] <high-freq> whew
[02:55] <nickrud> NoTownKasper now,   sudo fdisk -l
[02:55] <bazhang> thoreauputic: SeaPhor could you take your chat to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[02:55] <x0x> tonyyarusso [4/8/2008 7:55:23 AM] 530 This FTP server is anonymous only.
[02:55] <x0x> ;s
[02:55] <high-freq> bazhang, ok...there's the busID and yes the linux-restricted-modules are installed by "default"
[02:56] <NoTownKasper> Done and done.
[02:56] <x0x> tonyyarusso how to make it user only ;s
[02:56] <ingo__> hallo all! is there a free alternate of the adobe-media-server? - i mean a streaming server for video-data in conferences
[02:56] <bazhang> high-freq: they were there or you just installed them
[02:56] <thoreauputic> bazhang: umm - excuse me but I think discussing drivers for Ubuntu is on topic
[02:56] <budluva> how do i change a certain byte in a file using hexedit?
[02:56] <nickrud> NoTownKasper what's the link for fdisk -l?
[02:56] <benanzo> is there a way to schedule a wakeup from suspend?
[02:56] <NoTownKasper> Oh, needed that pasted too.
[02:57] <tonyyarusso> x0x: Just because I mentioned it doesn't mean I wrote it.  Check the documentation that comes with the program first, along with any on the project web site and the Ubuntu wiki.  However, I do remember that the config file for it is pretty well commented, so that might be sufficient.
[02:57] <bazhang> thoreauputic: yes; if it is solving an issue; but just chit-chatting is not thanks
[02:57] <nickrud> NoTownKasper yeah, it will help to see the actual data. So far menu.lst looks ok in general terms
[02:57] <SeaPhor> thoreauputic: and thats the main thing for me, I said 7 years ago that if i could play my games on linux or mac, that i'd have no use for windows,,, now I have been win-free for almost a year, and the graphics on my geforce 8600GT are 3-4x better playing COH on my linux install than on windows, the zone-times are faster and 0---ZERO lag!
[02:57] <orudie> nickrud, do you know how to disable notifications of users joining and leaving
[02:57] <thoreauputic> bazhang: are you a self-appointed op ? *grin*
[02:57] <x0x> tonyyarusso ok
[02:57] <Onyx> orudie: perl -e 'print pack(c5,(41*2),sqrt(7056),(unpack(c,H)-2),oct(115),10);'
[02:57] <damo22> !compiz
[02:57] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[02:57] <NoTownKasper> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62482/
[02:57] <SeaPhor> sorry
[02:57] <high-freq> bazhang, um this is a "fresh" install of ubuntu..and yes they were there when checked synaptic package manager
[02:57] <orudie> Onyx, huh ?
[02:58] <bazhang> thoreauputic: jut trying to help out here; if you wish to chit chat here then go right ahead
[02:58] <nickrud> orudie set up tabs for channels in prefs, then right click the tab and deselect it (might be able to do that in tree view, not sure)
[02:58] <aleka> How can I enable two separate clicks trigger a "rename" in nautilus?
[02:58] <keoni> hello, how can i check if CONFIG_ACPI_TOSHIBA is enabled in my kernel?
[02:58] <thoreauputic> :)
[02:58] <bazhang> wow I am so scared thoreauputic
[02:58] <zero88> Supposedly this link     http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9266     says that all i have to do is plug in my ipod and it will be auto mounted. But that isnt so and i cant find it anywhere on my computer. What can I do???
[02:59] <thoreauputic> bazhang: I wasn't trying to scare anyone - it was a joke :)
[02:59] <TheMusicGuy> Hello, I have two questions:
[02:59] <SeaPhor> will do,,, baz never tried to help my prob anyway
[03:00] <x0x> how to stop ddos?
[03:00] <TheMusicGuy> 1.  I keep seeing screen shots of a Linux desktop that has a "taskbar" at the bottom of the screen that seems to work like the OS-X taskbar.
[03:00] <mactimes> Hello, could someone, please help me out setting RAID1 in Ubuntu Server?
[03:00] <x0x> how to stop ddosing?
[03:00] <nickrud> NoTownKasper I'd suggest changing   (hd0,0)  to (hd1,0)  on the windows stanza; linux is on the same disk and uses that
[03:00] <TheMusicGuy> Does anyone know what that app is?
[03:00] <kelvin911> hello how to copy the whole directory??  lets say i have files and directory in  "/media/sda1/Program Files/BitComet",  and I want to copy the whole thing to "/.wine/drive_c/Program Files"
[03:00] <nickrud> NoTownKasper if that fails, we'll try doing some disk mapping
[03:01] <NoTownKasper> I'll try that, but it seems odd, since there's only one HD in my machine. Allright. back in a few.
[03:01] <Stroganoff> TheMusicGuy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=665204
[03:01] <TheMusicGuy> kelvin911: use cp -R
[03:01] <SeaPhor> can someone tell me how to switch to another channel plz?
[03:01] <nickrud> NoTownKasper I'd say you have a mixed ide/sata system
[03:01] <thoreauputic> SeaPhor: /join #channel-name
[03:02] <Alchera> TheMusicGuy: it's called oxygen leopard
[03:02] <Stroganoff> it's called a dock.
[03:02] <kelvin911> TheMusicGuy: Is it cp -r "/media/sda1/Program Files/BitComet" "~ ???  if i am in "/.wine/drive_c/Program Files"
[03:02] <aleka> I thought Nautilus had a feature where you can rename a file with 2 clicks (other than the F2 and right click)
[03:02] <NoTownKasper> Oh...
[03:02] <NoTownKasper> er...
[03:02] <NoTownKasper> wait.
[03:02] <kelvin911> cp -r "/media/sda1/Program Files/BitComet" ~   am i right?
[03:03] <Stroganoff> aleka maybe ur confusing this with windows ;)
[03:03] <TheMusicGuy> kelvin911: try adding a /* to the end of the source
[03:03] <x0x> how to stop ddosing?
[03:03] <Stroganoff> x0x pull the ethernet cable
[03:03] <kelvin911> cp -r "/media/sda1/Program Files/BitComet/*" ~
[03:03] <kelvin911> right?
[03:03] <thoreauputic> !repeat|x0x
[03:03] <ubotu> x0x: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:03] <jim> x0x: don't ddos people!
[03:03] <Stroganoff> !elaborate | x0x
[03:03] <ubotu> x0x: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[03:03] <TheMusicGuy> kelvin911: yes, that will copy everything in your source dir to the destination dir
[03:03] <x0x> jim i bought a vps... now i want it ddos protected ;s
[03:03] <jim> that will stop it :)
[03:04] <aleka> Stroganoff: Nah... I really remember having that feature either in breezy or dapper... pro'lly copied and pasted some gconf command and forgot how I did it
[03:04] <NoTownKasper> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62484/ <- real menu.lst
[03:04] <NoTownKasper> Sorry, I pasted the last one after a badly timed update-grub.
[03:04] <linkinxp> help with compiling mesa ?????
[03:04] <jim> x0x: don't go to irc networks where people who ddos go
[03:04] <x0x> lol
[03:04] <jim> serious.
[03:04] <jim> don't go there
[03:05] <x0x> i am goig to run my ircd on my vps
[03:05] <Starnestommy> at least not from the vps
[03:05] <Starnestommy> x0x: if you;re going to run an ircd, set up bopm.  it helps stop open proxy attacks
[03:05] <jim> oh, in that case there's no hope
[03:05] <kelvin911> cp: cannot stat `/media/sda1/Program Files/BitComet_0.61/*': No such file or directory
[03:05] <mactimes> x0x: You can ask a staff for cloaking too.
[03:05] <nickrud> NoTownKasper hm, I have some doubts about that one, it's saying hd0,0 for linux but it's on hd0,1 (llinux is).  Do a fresh sudo update-grub, and put that up
[03:05] <Alchera> i have a slight annoyance in konqueror & dolphin. non display of one of my 5 partitions in system:/media
[03:06] <Starnestommy> kelvin911: put the file name in quote marks
[03:06] <NoTownKasper> I did, that's what the last paste was. Minus the windows stanza.
[03:06] <x0x> ok
[03:06] <kelvin911> i did
[03:06] <NoTownKasper> But I can throw another one up, gimme a sec.
[03:06] <x0x> jim i want to install ftpd
[03:06] <kelvin911> cp -r "/media/sda1/Program Files/BitComet_0.61/*" ~
[03:06] <kelvin911> thats what i did
[03:06] <nickrud> NoTownKasper the fdisk output doesn't match that.  sda2  maps as hd0,1
[03:06] <TheMusicGuy> are you sure you have the right source dir?
[03:06] <thoreauputic> Alchera: maybe try #kubuntu for KDE issues
[03:06] <lakcaj> Hello.  How do I change the default compiler options?  I won't to add some conservative optimizations for my architecture for when I'm compiling from source.
[03:06] <kelvin911> maybe the space in program files create the problem?
[03:06] <Alchera> i would if anyone was alive
[03:07] <Starnestommy> kelvin911: replace the " " with "\ "
[03:07] <TheMusicGuy> well, you could try that
[03:07] <r3n0c> hey, how do i install openssl? it isn't just sudo apt-get install openssl
[03:07] <Alchera> will try again
[03:07] <NoTownKasper> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62485/
[03:07] <x0x> r3n0c yes
[03:07] <Starnestommy> r3n0c: yes
[03:07] <TheMusicGuy> I thought the "quotes" would take care of it but maybe I was wrong
[03:07] <kelvin911> do i need the quotation mark?
[03:07] <Starnestommy> kelvin911: no
[03:07] <kelvin911> cp -r "/media/sda1/Program\ Files/BitComet_0.61/*" ~
[03:07] <NoTownKasper> That's what I get after an updage-grub.
[03:07] <TheMusicGuy> not if you escape the space with \
[03:07] <NoTownKasper> No windows mention at all.
[03:07] <kelvin911> or cp -r /media/sda1/Program\ Files/BitComet_0.61/* ~
[03:07] <kelvin911> ??
[03:08] <TheMusicGuy> that one
[03:08] <r3n0c> ? o, i keep getting an error tho, i am trying to install thc hydra, and it needs it but it is saying that the folders aren't being found
[03:08] <Stroganoff> kelvin911: dont walk blindly through the bash. use TAB for auto completion
[03:08] <thoreauputic> kelvin911: tab completion will escape the space for you
[03:08] <Stroganoff> you cant do anything wrong with using TAB
[03:08] <nickrud> NoTownKasper and linux boots with that?!
[03:08] <NoTownKasper> no.
[03:08] <thoreauputic> kelvin911: just hit <tab> after Program
[03:08] <mannex> Is "Firestarter" a good firewall to have a Ubuntu Server with no GUI ?
[03:08] <kelvin911> thank you didnt know u can tab
[03:08] <NoTownKasper> But that's what update-grub gives me.
[03:09] <nickrud> NoTownKasper hm, you doing this in a live cd? running update-grub?
[03:09] <kelvin911> i guess i only knows dos commands
[03:09] <Stroganoff> mannex: iptables is good.
[03:09] <NoTownKasper> nope.
[03:09] <thoreauputic> mannex: no, it's a GUI front end
[03:09] <bazhang> mannex: firestarter is a gui ;]
[03:09] <nickrud> NoTownKasper so how are you in the hard disk install, if it doesn't boot?
[03:09] <Stroganoff> kelvin911: cmd.exe can tab, too. albeit not THAT advanced.
[03:09] <r3n0c> how do i update/ install these packages, libqp, libssh....
[03:09] <kelvin911> do i need sudo ??
[03:09] <Stroganoff> you can read the files as user?
[03:09] <mannex> So then if Firestarter is  GUI... what's a good firewall to use on a Ubuntu Server?
[03:09] <Dante899> hi everyone!
[03:09] <Stroganoff> you can write to your home dir.
[03:10] <NoTownKasper> Because I edited the grub command on the fly the first time, then gedited the menu.lst back to boot linux at hd0 instead of hd1
[03:10] <thoreauputic> kelvin911: not if you are copying to your home directory, no
[03:10] <Pici> mannex: iptables is always on and installed.
[03:10] <mannex> Stroganoff, I really dont want to use IPTables directly
[03:10] <Pici> !firewall | mannex
[03:10] <ubotu> mannex: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[03:10] <kelvin911> cp -r /media/sda1/Program Files/BitComet_0.61/* ~
[03:10] <kelvin911> but nothing happen
[03:10] <Stroganoff> kelvin911
[03:10] <mannex> Pici, grr ok ok IPTables it is
[03:10] <Stroganoff> you have not used TAB
[03:10] <nickrud> NoTownKasper you mean you edited it to hd0,1 ?
[03:10] <thoreauputic> kelvin911: llok in home/you  :)
[03:10] <Danish989> I'm new to linux and ubuntu and I was wondering if anyone could help me start with ubuntu?
[03:10] <mannex> ubotu, ok ok IPTables it is
[03:10] <kelvin911> cp -r /media/sda1/Program\ Files/BitComet_0.61/* ~
[03:10] <kelvin911> nothing happen
[03:10] <bazhang> Danish989: what questions do you have
[03:10] <Pici> mannex: ubotu is the channel bot ;)
[03:11] <thoreauputic> kelvin911: in Linux, silence means success :)
[03:11] <NoTownKasper> no, hd0,0
[03:11] <mannex> Pici, hahah ok thanks
[03:11] <kelvin911> i ls it nothing shows
[03:11] <jim> Danish989 is it running on your machine
[03:11] <xShad0w___> does anyone here have experience with ubuntu on vmware (fusion)
[03:11] <mannex> Pici, I still have to thank her ;-)
[03:11] <benanzo> what script is called when I select "Suspend" from the Gnome logout menu?
[03:11] <NoTownKasper> At least I don't feel like a fool if I'm confusing even you guys.
[03:11] <Pici> mannex: indeed ;)
[03:11] <thoreauputic> kelvin911: ls ~  ?
[03:11] <ionjadsd> nick Albertto
[03:11] <bazhang> xShad0w___: running on mac os x?
[03:11] <Danish989> well, I have xp installed on Fat 32 and all my files are on two seperate hard disks which are both formatted with the NTFS file system .. and thats my main problem, because I read somewhere that ubuntu can't work with NTFS?
[03:11] <xShad0w___> bazhang: yea
[03:11] <nickrud> NoTownKasper that doesn't compute for me, since hd0,0 is an ntfs partition.
[03:12] <mactimes> Can someone, please, tell me if there is any issue with mkfs while formating new partitions for a SATA disk?
[03:12] <Stroganoff> !ntfs | Danish989
[03:12] <ubotu> Danish989: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[03:12] <bazhang> xShad0w___: please specify your issues; if someone knows they will answer
[03:12] <xShad0w___> k
[03:12] <Stroganoff> Danish989, NTFS is not a problem anymore.
[03:12] <Danish989> I just downloaded Ubuntu: Gutsy Gibbons
[03:12] <Danish989> can I read/write on ntfs?
[03:12] <bazhang> Danish989: sure
[03:12] <Stroganoff> installing XP on FAT32 on the other hand is .... strange.
[03:12] <Randocal> Is foomatic generally the recommended way for getting a USB printer working? I'm having some trouble, and wondering if a non-foomatic solution is a good solution for me.
[03:12] <benanzo> Danish989: yes -- apt-get install ntfs-config
[03:13] <jim> it
[03:13] <zero88> How do I check to see if my computer is regonizing my Ipod shuffle?
[03:13] <crunchybumble> I mesed up my partition table, and I'm having a bear of a time getting back at some of my lost partitions. Is there anyone who has experience with GRUB issues, or recovering lost partitions that could help me? I'm pretty sure they are all intact, I just can't make grub see them.
[03:13] <bazhang> zero88: what app are you using for music
[03:13] <jim> ntfs isn't the best way to do things...
[03:13] <kelvin911> i made mistake
[03:13] <NoTownKasper> It doesn't make sense to me either, but if I try to boot with ubuntu set to hd1,0 it gives me an error and I end up having to edit the root line.
[03:13] <kelvin911> should be cp -r /media/sda1/Program\ Files/BitComet_0.61/* .  ????
[03:13] <zero88> bazhang well i wanted to use gtkpod. But if my comp cant see my device or mount it. I cant use gtkpod
[03:13] <kelvin911> ~ means home right?
[03:13] <thoreauputic> kelvin911: yes
[03:14] <kelvin911> . mean current directory?
[03:14] <TheMusicGuy> yes
[03:14] <nickrud> NoTownKasper no, it should be hd0,1 not hd1,0 according to fdisk -l .  sda2 maps to hd0,1
[03:14] <kelvin911> i got mixed up
[03:14] <thoreauputic> it means /home/yourusername
[03:14] <Frogzoo> NoTownKasper: check /boot/grub/device.map
[03:14] <bazhang> zero88: you either need to use the latest libgpod deb or wait 16 days when it is included in the next release
[03:14] <TheMusicGuy> at least you didn't do rm -r    :)
[03:14] <Stroganoff> !bash | kelvin911
[03:14] <ubotu> kelvin911: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[03:14] <Danish989> thanks everyone! :)
[03:14] <kelvin911> its too long ago i forgot unix commands
[03:14] <nickrud> ah! thanks Frogzoo I always for get that file
[03:14] <NoTownKasper> Ok, I'll try to boot to ubuntu with hd0,1...but I'll probably have to edit it. I'll be right back.
[03:14] <nickrud> NoTownKasper see what Frogzoo said
[03:15] <crunchybumble> I put up information on the ubuntuforums, but didn't get much of a response http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=698750
[03:15] <zero88> bazhang haha. will libgpod be able to see my ipod?
[03:15] <Stroganoff> thats it im out
[03:15] <gNewPower> I have a sound problem: when I watch a movie with VLC the sounds suddenly goes off.  My suspicion is that the sound daemon crashes.  Is there a way to restart ALSA?
[03:15] <bazhang> zero88: should help rhythmbox or amarok (or which ever one you use do so) yes
[03:15] <Frogzoo> NoTownKasper: you do know first disk is hd0, yes?
[03:15] <kelvin911> how to make BitComet works thru wine??
[03:15] <EvanR> stupid canon! they do not support linux and i am stuck with this useless printer! i am not paying those guys for a turbo print license!
[03:15] <kelvin911> that prgram has no installer
[03:16] <NoTownKasper> (hd0)	/dev/hdb ,(hd1)	/dev/sda
[03:16] <NoTownKasper> Um...
[03:16] <kelvin911> i can run it by unzip it to XP and run
[03:16] <bazhang> kelvin911: why do all that? there are many fine clients native to ubuntu
[03:16] <zero88> bazhang thanks i will check it out
[03:16] <kelvin911> but doest work in wine
[03:16] <NoTownKasper> Why is it reading 2 hd's...when I removed the IDE drive yesterday...?
[03:16] <kelvin911> for some reason bitcomet can connect the seeker
[03:16] <kelvin911> others cant
[03:16] <EvanR> kelvin911: use ktorrent or azureus...
[03:17] <eri2> I'm trying to install from the live-cd and I think my harddrive is fried.. it's stuck on 5% partitions formatting. Is there a way I can verify it is fried?
[03:17] <Danish989> one more question: I hear a strange static sound in the background when I boot ubuntu from the live cd and the static sound stays in the background regardless of me playing music or not ... is this because im running ubuntu from the live cd?
[03:17] <zero88> bazhang you know a location to get libgpod.deb?
[03:17] <nickrud> NoTownKasper mixed sda/hda. use hda1,0 for windows, hda1,1 for linux. Or change device.map to (hd0) /dev/sda
[03:17] <edgar_> hola
[03:17] <gNewPower> I have a sound problem: when I watch a movie with VLC the sounds suddenly goes off.  My suspicion is that the sound daemon crashes.  Is there a way to restart ALSA?
[03:17] <kelvin911> i tried bittornado doesnt connect
[03:17] <NoTownKasper> Ok, I think I might've screwed something up hardware side...I'll be back. I think I might've unplugged the wrong device. :(
[03:17] <bazhang> eri2: have you checked the md5 sum on that iso? also how did you burn it (what app), how fast did you burn it, and what media did you use
[03:17] <NoTownKasper> back in a while.
[03:17] <kelvin911> i switch back to XP yesterday and i can download
[03:17] <NoTownKasper> Thanks for putting up with me. :D
[03:17] <kelvin911> using bitcomet
[03:18] <Danish989> can I bother someone with a question? :(
[03:18] <EvanR> kelvin911: ok so bittornado sucks, try ktorrent or azureus
[03:18] <Starnestommy> Danish989: just ask it
[03:18] <eri2> !ask Danish989
[03:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask danish989 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:18] <The> iae galera
[03:18] <eri2> !ask
[03:18] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[03:18] <bazhang> zero88: not sure perhaps getdeb.net
[03:18] <Danish989> I hear a strange static sound in the background when I boot ubuntu from the live cd and the static sound stays in the background regardless of me playing music or not ... is this because im running ubuntu from the live cd?
[03:18] <The> !ask
[03:19] <kelvin911> EvanR: do  they support filename that is not standard?
[03:19] <kelvin911> like unicode?
[03:19] <EvanR> kelvin911: duh
[03:19] <bazhang> The: do you have a support question?
[03:19] <The> no
[03:19] <eri2> Danish989 - could it be your audio system? is there static there when your pc is turned off?
[03:19] <zero88> bazhang k. well wouldnt it come with gtkpod?
[03:19] <kelvin911> last time i try to download the files, bittornado doesnt work because the filename problem
[03:20] <BSG75> hiya, I want to allow my daughter's profile to only able to visit a handful of sites .. is there a easy parental control in ubuntu?
[03:20] <eri2> but yes the static could be due to that - heck I don't have audio and i'm on the live cd right now
[03:20] <Danish989> no, the static sound is only heard when I boot ubuntu from the live cd , the sound isn't heard otherwise (in xp or when the system is off) .. my sound card is Creative Soundblaster Live! 16 bit.
[03:20] <thoreauputic> BSG75: dansguardian
[03:20] <EvanR> kelvin911: trying one client does not excuse you for switch back to windows, since there are about 134 torrent clients for linux
[03:20] <bazhang> zero88: the gutsy gtkpod comes with an earlier version, thus the need to get the new one to work with latest iPods
[03:20] <thoreauputic> BSG75: I haven't used it - just know about it existing
[03:20] <EvanR> kelvin911: but if you were going to use ubuntu, perhaps you are better off with windows in the first place
[03:20] <bazhang> BSG75: also a firefox plugin for that
[03:20] <eri2> Danish989 - the livecd is a bit slower than an installed system
[03:21] <Danish989> yeah, slower it is, but what is your opinion about the sound? Can the static just be because it's the live cd?
[03:21] <zero88> bazhang i see. but this ipod is ancient. Its a 512mb usb shuffle.lol i found it
[03:21] <EvanR> Danish989: you get noise while playing games? or all the time
[03:21] <RyanPrior> I have a friend whose keyboard issue - some keypresses are not registered, some are, and some are registered many times (as many as 10 or 20). The same seems to be true of his trackpad and nipple mouse - some gestures are not recognized, while some are many times. Any clue why that would be? (He's on Ubuntu Gutsy)
[03:21] <thoreauputic> !info dansguardian
[03:21] <ubotu> dansguardian (source: dansguardian): Web content filtering. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.0.6-antivirus-6.4.4.1-4 (gutsy), package size 288 kB, installed size 1500 kB
[03:21] <BSG75> going to try danguardian .. the ff plugin is very annoying .. I just tried that .. unless there is something I haven't tried .. thanks for dans' :)
[03:21] <kelvin911> EvanR: which bt client is good?
[03:21] <budluva> how do i execute an .sh file?
[03:21] <Danish989> No, the only time I hear the static sound is when booting ubuntu from the live cd, I never hear it otherwise
[03:21] <EvanR> kelvin911: azureus is popular
[03:22] <Starnestommy> budluva: sh filename.sh
[03:22] <EvanR> kelvin911: or did i not already say that twice
[03:22] <bazhang> zero88: try rhythmbox or amarok and see if they can detect it then
[03:22] <kelvin911> EvanR: bitcomet allow unlimited download and limit upload
[03:22] <eri2> budluva -  sh ./filename.sh   if you're in teh same directory
[03:22] <zero88> bazhang kool thanks
[03:22] <EvanR> kelvin911: ..... every client lets you limit upload.
[03:22] <EvanR> get serious please
[03:22] <thoreauputic> kelvin911: any decent BT client does that
[03:22] <kelvin911> EvanR: i can download 100 KB/s and upload 2 KB/s
[03:22] <EvanR> :o
[03:22] <EvanR> :|
[03:22] <Danish989> >> the only time I hear the static sound is when booting ubuntu from the live cd, I never hear it otherwise
[03:22] <EvanR> azureus...
[03:23] <thoreauputic> kelvin911: if you only upload 2KB/sec you won't get good results :)
[03:23] <kelvin911> thoreauputic: u do in bitcomet
[03:23] <RSO> zero88: I used Amarok for my iPod Nano and it's working just fine.
[03:23] <bazhang> kelvin911: there are a number you can test out; transmission, deluge, ktorrent, azureus, rtorrent (cli) and others
[03:23] <thoreauputic> kelvin911: It's also selfish, frankly
[03:23] <EvanR> thoreauputic: because his client cheats the system
[03:23] <kelvin911> i always get like 0.1 ul/dl ratio
[03:23] <EvanR> kelvin911: azureus.
[03:23] <thoreauputic> EvanR: that is bad :(
[03:23] <zero88> RSO, k i will try that onbe
[03:23] <Danish989> No idea about the sound problem? should I just go ahead and install ubuntu?
[03:24] <RyanPrior> How do I use debconf to reconfigure x?
[03:24] <bazhang> Danish989: have you tried adjusting the sound via alsamixer
[03:24] <eri2> Danish989 - why the hesitation - overwriting xp?
[03:24] <Danish989> No, I'm not going to overwrite xp
[03:24] <b4l74z4r> the fonts in my applications taskbar entries keep changing from bold to regular even tho i've set application font to bold
[03:24] <thoreauputic> RyanPrior: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:24] <eri2> you can always reclaim the disk space if you don't like ubuntu
[03:25] <Danish989> true .. hehe, sorry, I just thought I'd ask
[03:25] <zero88> RSO, When you plug in your ipod. does ubuntu detect automatically though?
[03:25] <crunchybumble> @RZO did you use it with a nano 2
[03:25] <Danish989> thanks a lot everyone! :)
[03:25] <ToddEDM> hey guys, i just turned on my laptop, and Ubuntu boots into safe graphics mode..... now it only goes to 800x600, how can i get it back
[03:25] <eri2> give it a good try though, just dont install it and in two days decide you hate it
[03:25] <kelvin911> i guess i will try azureus
[03:25] <crunchybumble> @RZO one of the clippy kinds? one of my friends has one of those and I'm trying to help her get a working music situation under linux
[03:25] <kelvin911> since i cant get bitcomet working
[03:26] <Danish989> thanks eri2 :) Can I access all my files using the live cd in safe mode from all the harddisks?
[03:26] <RSO> zero88: No, you need to go to settings, Configure Amarok, Media Devices
[03:26] <RSO> zero88: Then choose "Add Device..."
[03:26] <bazhang> crunchybumble: if it is the newer ones you need the latest libgpod deb or wait until next release version of ubuntu in 16 days
[03:27] <eri2> I know with my live cd, it can see all mine.. i'm having to reinstall, dont know what happened to my 320Gb drive but this motherboard has eaten a harddrive before :/
[03:27] <RSO> zero88: From the drop-down menu, choose the Apple...something
[03:27] <eri2> in windoze
[03:27] <RyanPrior> I have a friend whose keyboard issue - some keypresses are not registered, some are, and some are registered many times (as many as 10 or 20). The same seems to be true of his trackpad and nipple mouse - some gestures are not recognized, while some are many times. Any clue why that would be? (He's on Ubuntu Gutsy)
[03:27] <Danish989> That sucks .. I haven't lost a harddrive yet .. I've been on this computer for quiet a long time now, and I can't recall the last time I formatted a drive
[03:27] <RyanPrior> Even if he boots to the terminal prompt, keypresses are wonky.
[03:28] <eri2> so think it's a hardware issue, maybe related to the disk power saving and the usb power needs
[03:28] <RSO> zero88: And then for both entries, write "mount /home/your_profile/Desktop/ipod's_name"
[03:28] <Danish989> Ryanprior : dont you have to choose the keyboard character set thingie while installing ubuntu?
[03:28] <thoreauputic> RyanPrior: then it might be a console-setup problem
[03:28] <RSO> zero88: Same for the eject command, just replace "mount" with "eject"
[03:28] <RyanPrior> thoreauputic: if it were, how would he fix it?
[03:28] <Danish989> so what can I do about that eri2 ? About the disk power saving?
[03:28] <Nertos_Ufa> Hi! I need gtk+-2.0 where can I get it?
[03:29] <TheMusicGuy> um...I just ran "docker" and my status bar disappeared. I can't get it back.
[03:29] <thoreauputic> RyanPrior: first try  sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup ( from memory)
[03:29] <eri2> i wouldn't worry bout it Danish, my hardware prob isnt same as yours
[03:29] <TheMusicGuy> how do I get my status bar back?
[03:29] <RyanPrior> thoreauputic: what would that do?
[03:29] <eri2> could have been lightning storms too
[03:29] <Geoffrey2> while using yahoo maps, firefox is abruptly closing with a libcairo error
[03:29] <bazhang> TheMusicGuy: what is docker; please clarify
[03:29] <thoreauputic> RyanPrior: try it and see - IIRC it asks about fonts and keyboards
[03:30] <nickrud> console-setup sets up the virtual console
[03:30] <thoreauputic> right
[03:30] <RyanPrior> thoreauputic: The problem seems to be that keypresses are only being recognized some times.
[03:30] <Danish989> one last question, I can install on a harddisk using the NTFS file system?
[03:30] <RyanPrior> thoreauputic: It even makes it difficult to type commands into the root terminal.
[03:30] <thoreauputic> RyanPrior: is his hardware OK ?
[03:30] <TheMusicGuy> Its a system tray for multiple WMs
[03:30] <nickrud> Danish989 no
[03:30] <RyanPrior> thoreauputic: When he boots into Windows it all works fine.
[03:30] <eri2> a docker costs about $15 on sixth street
[03:31] <bazhang> Danish989: the ubuntu will reformat it to what you need; ext3 not ntfs
[03:31] <eri2> sorry couldn't resist
[03:31] <thoreauputic> RyanPrior: hmm - running out of ideas, sorry
[03:31] <bazhang> TheMusicGuy: installed from where? the repos or third party site
[03:31] <nickrud> Danish989 ntfs doesn't understand unix type permission settings, and you must have those for linux
[03:31] <Danish989> and only ext3 have permission settings right?
[03:31] <spork969> whats the quickest way to install the newest java?
[03:32] <nickrud> Danish989 xfs, ext3, and some others but ext3 is the standard for linux
[03:32] <thoreauputic> !java | spork969
[03:32] <ubotu> spork969: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[03:32] <TheMusicGuy> bazhang: It was installed from the repo
[03:32] <bazhang> !info docker
[03:32] <ubotu> docker (source: docker): System tray for KDE3/GNOME2 docklet applications. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4-3 (gutsy), package size 10 kB, installed size 84 kB
[03:32] <Danish989> okie, thanks a lot :)
[03:32] <RSO> zero88: Let me know if that worked out for you.
[03:32] <bazhang> TheMusicGuy: and now the panel has disappeared?
[03:33] <whisperkiller> how do i search for all files on my system with .txt extensions
[03:33] <TheMusicGuy> not the whole panel, just the system tray
[03:33] <nickrud> whisperkiller  find / -iname *.txt
[03:33] <bazhang> TheMusicGuy: have you tried right click add to panel to replace it?
[03:34] <TheMusicGuy> there's no panel applet for the system tray
[03:34] <nickrud> TheMusicGuy add the notification area (right click panel, add)
[03:34] <mEck0> Would a Intel Dual Core E2160 1.8GHz 800MHz 1MB cache with 1 or 2GB DDR2 be good as a server running ubuntu server? I want to build a server for backup, version handling system (svn, mercurial) and use it as a fileserver.
[03:35] <bazhang> mEck0: that would be way overpowered but yeah
[03:35] <TheMusicGuy> nickrud: it doesn't show anything
[03:35] <nickrud> m3that would do the trick for a bunch of people ;)
[03:35] <TheMusicGuy> i.e. the notification area is empty
[03:35] <nickrud> TheMusicGuy it being what?
[03:36] <TheMusicGuy> none of the icons that were in the system tray are in the notification area
[03:36] <nickrud> TheMusicGuy ah, well you might have to restart some apps for them to appear
[03:36] <kelvin911> has anyone try greedytorrent?
[03:36]  * nickrud doesn't have a clue to how docker affects the panel
[03:36] <bazhang> kelvin911: is that in the ubuntu repos? or is a windows program?
[03:36] <spork969> thoreauputic, thanks
[03:37] <kelvin911> dont know
[03:37] <mEck0> bazhang: ok, I actually have a computer with a P2 300Mhz cpu and with about 288MB SDRAM, 8GB IBM Bigfoot hdd. It that okay for what I need? I think it is for everything, but maybe not file server? Or will it be sufficient for that too?
[03:37] <TheMusicGuy> it didn't work
[03:37] <nickrud> TheMusicGuy I have no idea how docker is going to affect the panel & notification area, but for sure notification area == systray
[03:37] <thoreauputic> kelvin911: just get a good client ( azureus, deluge, ktorrent etc.) and *configure* it - BT isn't magic
[03:37] <softtower> mount -t smbfs gives me "wrong fstype". what should I install? I have smbtree and I can access windows shares in Gnome.
[03:38] <bassinboy> snort is not configuring, it hangs on something, is there anyway to remove it?
[03:38] <TheMusicGuy> hang on...
[03:38] <kelvin911> bazhang: i have a p3 with only 32MB ram, what can i install in this piece of crap?
[03:38] <bazhang> mEck0: that sounds more like it; though maybe up the ram a teensy bit; you could also run it by the guys in #ubuntu-server for the expert opinions but sounds more than enough
[03:38] <kelvin911> with 10 or 20 GB HD
[03:38] <bazhang> kelvin911: please watch the language
[03:38] <mEck0> bazhang: aha, thx a lot, will check that channel imediately =)
[03:38] <zero88> RSO, you there still
[03:39] <RSO> zero88: Yup
[03:39] <nickrud> kelvin911 you might be able to get damn small linux in there, but that's almost unusable for most practical uses
[03:39] <b4l74z4r> i've discovered a bug in 8.04, i changed my application font to bold, but the applications taskbar entry keeps changing from bold to regular each time an event inside the application takes place such as rhythmbox changing to the next track
[03:39] <bazhang> b4l74z4r: #ubuntu+1 please
[03:39] <nickrud> kelvin911 if you can just get some memory ...
[03:39] <zero88> RSO, k sorry i was afk for a minute. when you type mount ....... how do you know what the device name is?
[03:39] <SeaPhor> wireless pci card, using rtl8185 , shows in lshw -C network, but doesnt find any networks, network is wpa2, any help?
[03:39] <kelvin911> nickrud: is it possible to run it as ftp server?
[03:40] <kelvin911> nickrud: its a junk from my roomate
[03:40] <Tu13es> I'm following a tutorial that tells me to run dpkg-reconfigure on a package, but when I do, instead of getting a console interface, it just returns to the shell
[03:40] <thoreauputic> b4l74z4r: and check bugs.ubuntu.com to see if it's been reported
[03:40] <bazhang> SeaPhor: what does ifconfig show; two entries or three
[03:40] <Tu13es> any ideas why?
[03:40] <RSO> zero88: Well, is the device automatically mounted when you plug it in?
[03:40] <kelvin911> nickrud: dont wanna spend a penny on it
[03:40] <zero88> RSO, no its not
[03:40] <nickrud> kelvin911 you will certainly find some mini distro that would run on there, cli only but I'm not sure which.   distrowatch.org  could help you choose
[03:40] <kelvin911> nickrud: dsl?
[03:40] <ogre> hey, my computer froze during update now its saying i have updates but the update manager errors out. how do i fix this?
[03:40] <RSO> zero88: Ah...give me a minute then. What iPod did you say you have?
[03:40] <kelvin911> nickrud: i think i have dsl somewhere
[03:40] <bazhang> kelvin911: then geexbox or minime or dsl as nickrud says
[03:40] <budluva> where do i put nautilus scripts? ~/.nautilus just has a bunch of temp files in it
[03:40] <spork969> what does this mean: "Set your JAVA_HOME variable to the location where you have Java installed."?
[03:40] <SeaPhor> 3, eth0, l0, and wlan0
[03:41] <zero88> RSO, not sure exactly  i found it but its a 512mb usb i believe shuffle
[03:41] <jim> spork969: which word don't you understand?
[03:41] <RSO> zero88: Is it the little one with no screen?
[03:41] <bazhang> SeaPhor: you want the gui way or the cli way
[03:41] <zero88> RSO, yes it is
[03:41] <spork969> jim, the whole thing pretty much. how do i do it?
[03:41] <TheMusicGuy> I got the system tray/notification area to come back
[03:41] <bazhang> TheMusicGuy: nice ;]
[03:41] <TheMusicGuy> I had to logout/in a couple times
[03:42] <TheMusicGuy> notification area acts...werid
[03:42] <TheMusicGuy> *weird
[03:42] <brunner> Hello.  Is there any way to either check the status of a transfer that's occurring via USB2?
[03:42] <jim> I can't connect to that...
[03:42] <thoreauputic> budluva: .gnome2/nautilus-scripts
[03:42] <bulazeem> my external hard drive and mouse stay on after i shut my computer down.  does anyone else have this problem?  i'm using 7.10
[03:42] <SeaPhor> bazhang: whatever works, been looking here over a month
[03:42] <ToddEDM> hey guys how can i add resolutions to choose from
[03:42] <brunner> I'm copying an ISO to a jump drive and it seems to be at 100% but it's not moving.  Is there a way to see if it's doing anything?
[03:42] <bazhang> SeaPhor: any way to open up that wifi hotspot
[03:43] <SeaPhor> bazhang: i am living with my in-laws, i have full access to their router
[03:43] <thoreauputic> !fixres | ToddEDM
[03:43] <ubotu> ToddEDM: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:43] <bazhang> ToddEDM: you did the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg that thoreauputic recommended?
[03:44] <ToddEDM> no i didnt
[03:44] <jim> why?
[03:44] <bazhang> ToddEDM: best try that then
[03:44] <ToddEDM> i will right now thouhg
[03:44] <ToddEDM> though
[03:44] <ToddEDM> i didnt see it earlier
[03:44] <jim> ahh
[03:44] <thoreauputic> ToddEDM: please don't ask questions unless you act on the answers :)
[03:44] <ToddEDM> uhhg
[03:44] <ToddEDM> so sorry
[03:44] <bulazeem> i have to unplug it to get it to turn off
[03:45] <jim> thoreauputic: actually he does have a choice
[03:45] <thoreauputic> ToddEDM: it's OK
[03:45] <bazhang> jim does that sound wrong?
[03:45] <RSO> zero88: I can't find the exact way to mount it as i never had to, but this might help you out. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=103071
[03:45] <up> to worck without cd i muss uncommet all mirrore on source.list?????
[03:45] <bazhang> up no just the cd
[03:45] <jim> no doesn't sound wrong at all... and he still has a choice
[03:45] <Starnestommy> up: just comment out the line with the cd
[03:45] <bazhang> jim please elaborate
[03:45] <spork969> where is java installed? how do i set the JAVA_HOME variable?
[03:45] <TheMusicGuy> thanks bazhang, and thanks to whoever it was that identified cairo-docl
[03:45] <thoreauputic> jim: of course - but he didn't try it before asking again...
[03:45] <up> ok
[03:45] <SeaPhor> bazhang: i have my laptop next to me with the router's if loaded
[03:45] <TheMusicGuy> *cairo-dock
[03:45] <zero88> RSO,  cool thanks for the help. Seems like i might have to do some research =)
[03:46] <jim> he can choose to listen, he can choose to not listen
[03:46] <amenado> spork969-> which java
[03:46] <thoreauputic> jim: The page from Ubotu would give him an informed choice :)
[03:46] <bazhang> jim aye and then we can choose not listen to his pleas for help
[03:46] <up> i want to play media woth mozilla
[03:46] <jcnorman> paste
[03:46] <up> rm media
[03:46] <budluva> i have mv the script to ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts and restarted the file manager but still nothing
[03:46] <jcnorman> join #paste
[03:46] <jim> thoreauputic: I'm believing you... and he still has a choice :)
[03:47] <RSO> zero88: Yeah, sometimes it is that way. But once you mount it, you'll see the name of the device and you'll be able to view it from Amarok (if you choose to use that particular app)
[03:47] <spork969> amenado, java 6 (sun-java6-bin, sun-java6-jre)
[03:47] <bazhang> SeaPhor: the best way would be to open up the wifi so that we can see if it will connect at all; then can get wpa2 etc going after that
[03:47] <amenado> spork969-> also look in /etc/alternatives/java
[03:47] <zero88> RSO, one quick question. Are you using gnome?
[03:47] <NoTownKasper> A couple days ago I removed an IDE drive from my system, and installed Windows XP on a second partition on my SCSI drive. After reinstalling gnome, sorry, but I forgot how, I rebooted and windows XP doesn't show in the gnome boot loader. So I gedited a copy of the example windows stanza into the menu.lst, rebooted, tried to boot to the windows partition and it received an error “Cannot mount selected paritition. Since then I hav
[03:48] <zero88> RSO, im wondering, becuase im on fluxbox, if auto mount isnt activated for fluxbox. becuase it is for gnome
[03:48] <Arky44> hello all
[03:48] <bazhang> hi Arky44
[03:48] <thoreauputic> zero88: no, it isn't by default
[03:48] <RSO> zero88: Ah, good point. And yes i am running Gnome.
[03:48] <thoreauputic> zero88: in fluxbox
[03:48] <zero88> RSO,  thoreauputic  ah ok thanks
[03:48] <Arky44> is it possible to install an ubuntu variation through wubi on an ubuntu machine (through wine windows emulator)?
[03:48] <zero88> RSO,  thoreauputic  is there a way to set automount on flux?
[03:49] <up> Starnestommy i don't have cd on source.list
[03:49] <bazhang> Arky44: what variation do you speak of
[03:49] <spork969> Arky44, did you just ask if it is possible to install ubuntu on ubuntu?
[03:49] <RSO> zero88: I have no idea, let's hope thoreauputic does
[03:49] <thoreauputic> zero88: several actually... but this isn't the best plcae to explain how :)
[03:49] <Arky44> bazhang: xubuntu
[03:49] <SeaPhor> bazhang: i am talking to you on the Desktop in question, thru eth0, i have a laptop also with Ub 7.1 logged into router's interface, do i need to do something different?
[03:49] <bazhang> Arky44: why all the gyrations?
[03:49] <Arky44> bazhang: ?
[03:49] <thoreauputic> zero88: there's ivman, or you can set up pmount with rox filer, or.... you get the idea
[03:50] <somethingcomplex> hi all, i'm trying to install sound drivers (following instructions at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=455147&highlight=conexant) but my computer crashed twice at step 9 install asa-lib... what can i do?
[03:50] <zero88> thoreauputic, ya i will check those out thanks. or just use gnome
[03:50] <thoreauputic> zero88: fluxbox is more-or-less do it yourself
[03:50] <bazhang> Arky44: just wanting to test wubi? a vm might be a better option for that if that is indeed your goal
[03:50] <zero88> thoreauputic, ya Im starting to figure that one out ;)
[03:50] <thoreauputic> zero88: that's what I like about it actually :)
[03:51] <zero88> thoreauputic, thats what linux is all about
[03:51] <zero88> :)
[03:51] <thoreauputic> zero88: indeed
[03:51] <Arky44> bazhang: i just want to test xubuntu without needing to repartition
[03:51] <linkinxp> guys where i can see my current video drivers??????
[03:51] <zero88> thoreauputic, anyway thanks again, Im going to take the easy way for now. OFF to GNOME!!
[03:51] <bazhang> Arky44: any reason just not to run the livecd?
[03:52] <sole_one> livecds ftw
[03:52] <Arky44> bazhang: i'm too lazy to burn it ;)
[03:52] <Danish989> how do I get ntfs-3g using apt-get ? what's the whole command?
[03:52] <sole_one> lol
[03:52] <taq> hi, my internet crapped out after I rebooted, is there anyway I can do something like 'ipconfig /renew' i'm running ubuntu 7.1
[03:52] <ChaosTheory> Anyone here familiar with Avant Window Navigator?
[03:52] <bulazeem> my external hard drive and mouse stay on after i shut my computer down.  does anyone else have this problem?  i'm using 7.10
[03:52] <bazhang> Arky44: what you are proposing sounds very complex; might as well use virtualbox to run the iso in a virtual machine
[03:52] <bassinboy> snort is not configuring, it hangs on something, is there anyway to remove it?
[03:53] <Arky44> bazhang: ok
[03:53] <Danish989> how do I get ntfs-3g using apt-get ? what's the whole command?
[03:53] <p33> someone got any ideas why a intel g33 gets superslow with +2gb ram?
[03:53] <Arky44> Danish989: sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[03:53] <nickrud> bassinboy could you paste the complete output of sudo apt-get remove --purge snort
[03:53] <bazhang> Danish989: sudo apt-get install packagename; but is that not installed already?
[03:53] <Danish989> thanks arky44
[03:54] <Arky44> Danish989: i think bazhang is right
[03:54] <Danish989> I'm not sure if it is or not, I didn't even check but I thought I'd just I'd ask .. I'm a complete n00b at linux at the moment
[03:54] <NoTownKasper>  Couple days ago I removed an IDE drive from my system, and installed Win XP on a second partition on my SCSI drive. After reinstalling gnome, sorry, but I forgot how, rebooted and windows XP doesn't show in the gnome boot loader. So I gedited a copy of the example windows stanza into menu.lst, rebooted, tried to boot to windows and got an error “Cannot mount selected paritition. I have tried every hd#,partiton# I can think of, 
[03:54] <bazhang> ChaosTheory: what questions do you have about awn
[03:54] <Danish989> thanks a lot
[03:55] <diefordethklok> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=400236
[03:55] <bassinboy> nickrud: weird, i control + c  it and it continued lolo
[03:55] <Arky44> Danish989: don't worry, you'll wish you'd had ubuntu a long time ago in about a week :)
[03:55] <diefordethklok> will this howto work in the hard beta?
[03:55] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: I'm having a problem installing it -- I'm getting some errors when doing the "./configure."
[03:55] <bazhang> Danish989: well if you try to install it and it is installed then no harm done; it will just say already the newest version
[03:55] <diefordethklok> hardy*
[03:55] <Danish989> ok thanks a lot arky44 and bazhang :)
[03:55] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: Do you want me to post it on pastebin?
[03:55] <nickrud> NoTownKasper did you set the device.map ?
[03:55] <thoreauputic> NoTownKasper: windows likes to be on the first partition - you might need to use the map option in grub to fool it
[03:55] <bazhang> ChaosTheory: you are compiling it? why? there is a repo to enable and download from
[03:55] <NoTownKasper> Oh fun.
[03:55] <NoTownKasper> I have no idea how to do that.
[03:55] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: Oh, I can just install it from Synaptic?
[03:56] <diefordethklok> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=400236, this is the one I am talking about
[03:56] <NoTownKasper> I'm so new to linux it hurts.
[03:56] <sivel27> hello all
[03:56] <bazhang> ChaosTheory: you are on gutsy? there is an outside repo to add for that-- or you can wait sixteen days when it will part of ubuntu next release repos
[03:56] <Danish989> lol @ notown kasper ..... its the same with me
[03:56] <budluva> anyone here have a script for remuxing an x264 .mkv to .mp4?
[03:56] <diefordethklok> Me too, don't worry NoTownKasper
[03:56] <thoreauputic> NoTownKasper: I don't remember the syntax ( I don't use windows), but try googling "windows grub boot mapping" or similar
[03:56] <diefordethklok> :)
[03:56] <BevMoid> hey
[03:56] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: Yes, I'm on Gutsy. How do I add the outside repo?
[03:57] <SeaPhor> thoreauputic: you see my point?
[03:57] <thoreauputic> SeaPhor: ?
[03:57] <bazhang> SeaPhor: sorry to delay; if you open the wpa2 to no encryption the sudo dhclient wlan0 what does that return
[03:58] <kelvin911> u think i can run DSL liveCD with only 32MB of ram?
[03:58] <NoTownKasper> Hrm.
[03:58] <NoTownKasper> ok.
[03:58] <bazhang> ChaosTheory: I dont have the link; there are two to choose from one has ppa in its url, that is the one to add
[03:58] <BevMoid> i have ran dsl with 16mb
[03:58] <bazhang> kelvin911: yes
[03:58] <BevMoid> cleanly on 16mb ram 133p1
[03:59] <SeaPhor> bazhang: but if i do that then all the other pc's in the house will loose their connection, including their server?
[03:59] <kelvin911> what if the CD drive is only like 1x or 2x cd drive?
[03:59] <kelvin911> would that be very slow?
[03:59] <thoreauputic> NoTownKasper: this problem kind of illustrates the difference between Linux and windows - win doesn'rt want to know about any other operating systems :)
[03:59] <BevMoid> i dunno,i did it with a 4x
[03:59] <bazhang> SeaPhor: okay let me get you the cli link to read through then
[03:59] <kelvin911> its a garbage computer someone throw out
[03:59] <BevMoid> it was a 4x cdrom 16mb ram and a 133 pentium 1
[03:59] <NoTownKasper> Hrm, First hit says to add a few odd looking lines to menu.lst...
[04:00] <BevMoid> dude i have sooo many old ATs that i just toss a new live distro
[04:00] <BevMoid> lol i have one with menuet installed
[04:00] <NoTownKasper> And you're right. One of the reasons I'm weaning myself off windows XP.
[04:00] <kelvin911> BevMoid: how long does it take u to boot with 4x cd?
[04:00] <BevMoid> not long
[04:00] <sivel27> users
[04:00] <thoreauputic> NoTownKasper: yes, something like map (hd0,0) hd(o1) etc I forget the exact syntax
[04:00] <BevMoid> same as if i booted ubuntu off a live dvd with a modern dvdrom
[04:00] <sivel27> hello
[04:00] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188  SeaPhor; in future you might want to add those details (server etc) this is the howto on getting cli wpa2 if you have questions then feel free to return and ask for clarification
[04:01] <SeaPhor> bazhang: can i just say that i have a seperate network icon in the tray that is remarked, and has a meter bar next to it?
[04:01] <kelvin911> BevMoid: which dsl did u try?
[04:01] <diefordethklok> Does the rt73 howto(direprius tut) work in the hardy beta?
[04:01] <BevMoid> dsl doesnt require much more than dos did really
[04:01] <BevMoid> shit what distro...not this update but the last release
[04:01] <NoTownKasper> title Windows - map (hd0) (hd1) - map (hd1) (hd0) - rootnoverify (hd1,0) - chainloader +1 <-- look about right? thoreauputic?
[04:01] <bazhang> diefordethklok: #ubuntu+1 for that please
[04:01] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: I think I'm missing "libawn." How do I install it?
[04:01] <sivel27> so im in a jam. fresh install of heron, ati 9700 pro + restricted drivers +32 lcd = logging into a white screen
[04:01] <diefordethklok> oops
[04:02] <thoreauputic> NoTownKasper: depending on your partitions, yes
[04:02] <bazhang> ChaosTheory: is this the compile? or you want to add the repo
[04:02] <somethingcomplex> my computer keeps crashing at a certain point while installing an audio driver... HELP!
[04:02] <SeaPhor> bazhang: i have had so many ppl try to tell me this or that, that i'm sure my fstab is quite confused
[04:02] <NoTownKasper> heh
[04:02] <icanhasadmin> sivel27: #ubuntu+1 or #compiz-fusion
[04:02] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2008/02/install-avant-window-navigator-awn-in.html
[04:02] <sivel27> thanks
[04:02] <thoreauputic> NoTownKasper:  grub starts from 0 and so on
[04:02] <icanhasadmin> sivel27: alt+f2 metacity --replace <-- will fix your problem temperariliy
[04:02] <crunchybumble> testdisk gives me an error when I look at one of my devices: it says: "error size boot_sector 40965687 > partition 40965686" can someone tell me what I need to do to resolve this?
[04:03] <bazhang> SeaPhor: this is part of your wpa2 problem or something else; could you please clarify
[04:03] <BevMoid> Complex : are u sure it is the correct driver?
[04:03] <thoreauputic> NoTownKasper: those options go *after( the "automagic" stanxas by the way
[04:03] <Ashfire908> Ok, today when i went to login, gdm stalled for a while when logging in, and i did ctrl-alt-backspace, same thing again, did the key combo, did it again, waited for it to login (eventually) and every ran very... slow... slower than windows runs. the gnome system log view would seg fault and core dump at somewhat random. i rebooted (had done it before when trying to login) and now it hangs at startup. now i'm in recovery mode.
[04:03] <thoreauputic> *stanzas
[04:03] <bazhang> ChaosTheory: that is the compiling link?
[04:03] <kelvin911> what can u do in dsl?
[04:03] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: I don't think it's compiling.
[04:04] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: It uses apt-get?
[04:04] <Ashfire908> I don't know what is causing it, i couldn't find anything in my system logs.
[04:04] <BevMoid> dsl just works
[04:04] <somethingcomplex> BevMoid: pretty sure... it's supposed to be for HP Pavilion dv2000 series, and i found it on the ubuntu forums
[04:04] <NoTownKasper> I'm just overly cautious. http://pastebin.com/d6486afe7 = my configuration info. Just don't want to do anything that'll leave me sitting in terminal windows longer than I have to.
[04:04] <kelvin911> any little game i can play while on my bed?
[04:04] <thoreauputic> kelvin911: why not try it and see ? It's a live Cd
[04:04] <Meshezabeel> is there a gui program included in ubuntu that makes it easy to print full page images?
[04:04] <BevMoid> but if you are a lil 'noobish' then it might be difficult for some
[04:04] <SeaPhor> bazhang: read that one, didn't help, i've been working on this for 4 months, I AM A n00b! and so far no one has been able to help me but i have not given up faith in Ubuntu or its users,,,
[04:04] <kelvin911> i need to download 1st wait
[04:04] <NoTownKasper> Odd thing is...I only have one physical hard drive on my machine. :\
[04:04] <somethingcomplex> i am very n00bish
[04:04] <BevMoid> did ubuntu support sound off the bat?
[04:05] <somethingcomplex> but it seems simple - cut and paste into the Terminal
[04:05] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: It gives me "E: Broken packages" when I do sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator awn-manager
[04:05] <BevMoid> Complex: if you really wanna learn then try it, atleast it has a gui :)
[04:05] <decay> how do i disable metacity and enable emerald? (its installed)
[04:05] <kelvin911> i am wondering should i download the current one or the old one
[04:05] <somethingcomplex> no, no sound
[04:05] <damo23> decay :  emerald --replace
[04:05] <BevMoid> try to older driver first
[04:05] <Ashfire908> so yeah could someone help me fix my system?
[04:05] <Meshezabeel> in windows I can easily print a photo full page, how can I do it under linux?
[04:05] <BevMoid> if you keep crashing on the new one
[04:05] <Arky44> kelvin911: do you have an old computer?
[04:05] <bazhang> ChaosTheory: you added the repos then updated the source list?
[04:05] <ChaosTheory> bazhang: I can do some updates, though.
[04:05] <thoreauputic> decay: metacity is a window manager - emerald is a window decorator
[04:05] <kelvin911> Arky44: yes i do
[04:05] <somethingcomplex> what old driver?
[04:06] <BevMoid> Mesh: you need cups, and what kind of printer
[04:06] <BevMoid> well what brand
[04:06] <kelvin911> Arky44: a garbage from roomate
[04:06] <BevMoid> Complex: u said there is an older driver
[04:06] <thoreauputic> decay: easiest to install the compiz-fusion applet ( then you can point and click)
[04:06] <Meshezabeel> BevMoid, printing is not my problem, getting the photo to go the size of a full page is
[04:06] <crunchybumble> ashfire, is this just with your user?
[04:06] <Arky44> kelvin911: Heh. You might want to consider installing xubuntu instead of ubuntu
[04:06] <kelvin911> Arky44: so funny that guy install winxp on it
[04:06] <crunchybumble> what happens when you login as root?
[04:06] <BevMoid> Mesh: o lol new one to me
[04:06] <kelvin911> Arky44: it took like 10 minutes to load
[04:06] <x0x> i want a FTPD
[04:06] <kelvin911> Arky44: and still swapping files
[04:06] <Arky44> kelvin911: ubuntu did?
[04:06] <BevMoid> apache
[04:07] <max_> Hi, Is there any way to control audio bass/treble globally in Ubuntu?
[04:07] <somethingcomplex> BevMoid: i dunno what i said but that's not what i meant...
[04:07] <kelvin911> Arky44: winxp
[04:07] <Arky44> kelvin911: yikes
[04:07] <Meshezabeel> BevMoid, I can print just fine, but say I copy a picture off of the Internet, how can I print it so it fills the whole page? In Windows it is easy.
[04:07] <BevMoid> Complex: ok cuz it confused me, u r on gutsy right?
[04:07] <kelvin911> Arky44: and that stupid guy ask me if i can install vista on it
[04:07] <SeaPhor> bazhang: I just want to get rid of the dang CAT5 cable running thru my In-Law's house, I am willing to start all over from scratch, including fresh install if thats what has to be
[04:07] <somethingcomplex> yes
[04:07] <eidolon> hi folks, i'm doing aptitude updates, and getting a segmentation fault.  Any ideas?
[04:07] <BevMoid> Mesh: u need to resize it to fill
[04:07] <bazhang> SeaPhor: well if you wish to learn then you need to give more informative answers then it didnt work; that way the errors can be pinpointed and fixed; which part of the tutorial did you get stuck on and what were the exact errors etc
[04:07] <Ashfire908> crunchybumble: i am root. i'm in recovery mode. the system hung at boot (well it might have eventually have loaded but i figured why load it only to find it unusable)
[04:08] <Arky44> kelvin911: check this out: http://xubuntu.org/
[04:08] <x0x> how do i make restart vsftpd ?
[04:08] <TheBurninator> hey guys i have a question
[04:08] <TheBurninator> i am running the hardy beta
[04:08] <kelvin911> Arky44: xubuntu?
[04:08] <max_> Any type of audio equilizer for Ubuntu?  alsamixer doesn't have bass / treble , and the bass is WAY too loud.
[04:08] <Meshezabeel> BevMoid, yeah, not very easy to do
[04:08] <kelvin911> Arky44: i am thinking dsl
[04:08] <bazhang> TheBurninator: what is it; oh that is #ubuntu+1 thanks
[04:08] <BevMoid> Mesh: use gimp or photoshop in wine
[04:08] <BevMoid> Mesh: PS CS2 runs fine in wine
[04:08] <TheBurninator> oh shoot i forgot
[04:08] <TheBurninator> sorry, thanks
[04:08] <kelvin911> Arky44: i may give xubuntu i try
[04:08] <Ashfire908> crunchybumble: oh i see you me try launching apps as root while in the gui and normaly boot?
[04:08] <Arky44> kelvin911: xubuntu is a distribution of ubuntu (a "type" of ubuntu, if you will) that is built for older systems
[04:08] <wapko> how about PS cs3 in wine ?
[04:09] <Cle0> how can i worck without Cd
[04:09] <crunchybumble> I don't suppose you've set up rsync or anything so useful, huh?
[04:09] <kelvin911> Arky44: got only 32mb of ram
[04:09] <Arky44> kelvin911: support for it is at #xubuntu
[04:09] <BevMoid> CS3 bugs out on me
[04:09] <BevMoid> works sometimes
[04:09] <kelvin911> Arky44: can xubuntu runs?
[04:09] <crunchybumble> yeah
[04:09] <decay> thoreauputic: thank you
[04:09] <bazhang> kelvin911: xubuntu might be a bit heavy; fluxbuntu would work perhaps
[04:09] <BevMoid> cs2 after u install the font package  its cool
[04:09] <Cle0> i need to install eclipse
[04:09] <Ashfire908> crunchybumble: i didn't try it but i'm not rebooting to try that.
[04:09] <thoreauputic> 32 megs is n't enough for xubuntu
[04:09] <wapko> the msttcorefonts package ?
[04:09] <Cle0> but how to set up my sources.list
[04:09] <SeaPhor> bazhang: that was a month ago, and i cant remember the specs, can i just start over, again, i can show any result you want
[04:09] <kelvin911> xubuntu is with xwindwos right?
[04:10] <Ashfire908> 32 meg of ram is barely enough to run the text installer
[04:10] <wapko> i believe thats xfce
[04:10] <somethingcomplex> these are the instructions i'm tryign to follow: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=455147&highlight=conexant
[04:10] <crunchybumble> xfce, kelvin911
[04:10] <kelvin911> fluxbuntu fluxbox?
[04:10] <thoreauputic> kelvin911: all graphical window managers and desktops use x window system :)
[04:10] <nickrud> kelvin911 every gui runs on xwindows
[04:10] <kelvin911> ok
[04:10] <Starnestommy> Cle0: make sure that the universe repositories are enabled
[04:10]  * nickrud blushes, for calling it xwindows ;)
[04:10] <Arky44> kelvin911: bazhang is probably right :)
[04:11] <Cle0> Starnestommy it is
[04:11] <ChaosTheory_> bazhang: http://pastebin.com/m1b28f722
[04:11] <decay> thoreauputic: are you talking about ccsm
[04:11] <NoTownKasper> http://pastebin.com/d6486afe7 = my current HD/partition information and menu.lst configuration. Any ideas on how I can get things setup to dual boot, and why it's listing two separate devices when I only have one physical hard drive in my machine?
[04:11] <thoreauputic> decay: ?
[04:11] <harushimo> I have a digital camera
[04:11] <harushimo> but I can't get it to work in ubuntu
[04:11] <bazhang> kelvin911: buy some ram and save the hassle frankly; that machine will be slow unless you run a very minimal distro
[04:11] <nickrud> NoTownKasper also, device.map per Frogzoo
[04:11] <Starnestommy> Cle0: then try to run sudo apt-get install eclipse
[04:11] <BevMoid> dsl is minimal
[04:11] <NoTownKasper> Oh yeah...forgot about that.
[04:11] <BevMoid> hence damn small linux
[04:12] <BevMoid> run menuet
[04:12] <cycom> wow. so...8.04 is pretty epic win
[04:12] <BevMoid> it aint no nix but its cool
[04:12] <Meshezabeel> BevMoid, well you have to buy cs2 don't you? Plus I was hoping for a purely linux solution, where you don't have to know dimensions, you just say "print to full size"
[04:12] <cycom> though for some reason totem is choking on my DVD...
[04:12] <harushimo> how would I fix it
[04:12] <BevMoid> i dont buy software
[04:12] <Cle0> Starnestommy he say me enter CDROM
[04:12] <BevMoid> all software should be free and if it is not i will make it :)
[04:12] <thoreauputic> decay: I forget the exact name - search in synaptic
[04:12] <Starnestommy> Cle0: comment out or remove the lines referring to the cdrom
[04:12] <decay> thoreauputic: ccsm is where i control the desktop effects. but i dont see anything about themes in it
[04:12] <BevMoid> nix and priniting are like nix n ati...needs work
[04:13] <Cle0> Starnestommy i will paste u my sources.list ok?
[04:13] <thoreauputic> decay: there's a config applet for compiz fusion
[04:13] <Meshezabeel> BevMoid, okay thanks
[04:13] <BevMoid> no prob :)
[04:13] <jim> BevMoid: works pretty well for me
[04:13] <Starnestommy> Cle0: use a pastebin
[04:13] <BevMoid> check out torrentz.com
[04:13] <thoreauputic> decay: or maybe that's only on hardy, not sure
[04:13] <BevMoid> damn good site for them
[04:13] <cycom> nevermind. dirty DVD
[04:14] <cycom> wow. Hardy seems to be working perfectly on my laptop.
[04:14] <Meshezabeel> BevMoid, nah, not really interested in pirating, but thanks for the suggestion and williness to help nonetheless!
[04:14] <cycom> WINDOWS didn't even run this well.
[04:14] <cycom> amazing!
[04:14] <decay> thoreauputic: i am on hardy. but im not looking to config compiz-fusion. i want to enable emerald theme
[04:14] <bazhang> cycom: that is in #ubuntu+1 thanks
[04:14] <BevMoid> this community is built on the help me i help you philosophy
[04:14] <decay> i know if i do emerald --replace, it works but i lose titlebars/statusbars
[04:14] <ToddEDM> thoreauputic:  thanks, my resolution is fixed!
[04:14] <jim> windows doesn't know what running well is :P
[04:14] <BevMoid> just keeping it alive :)
[04:14] <thoreauputic> decay: compiz-fusion uses either the gtk decorator or emerald
[04:14] <Meshezabeel> cool BevMoid :)
[04:14] <max_> Is there any way to equalize audio in Ubuntu?  Bass level is way too loud for my neighbors!
[04:15] <cycom> bazhang: pfft. fine. I'll come back once it's released.
[04:15] <nickrud> decay try setting a theme in emerald theme manager, then doing emerald --replace again
[04:15] <thoreauputic> decay: you install emerald if you want the emerald decorations, and you can choose them from the applet
[04:15] <Ashfire908> So yeah uh, my system is hard to use when if i don't boot into recovery mode the system barely moves...
[04:15] <thoreauputic> decay: let me look - hang on
[04:15] <Cle0> Starnestommy http://paste.debian.net/282
[04:16] <decay> thoreauputic: okay
[04:16] <jim> Ashfire908: that's pretty good detective work... next, find the difference that causes the problem when not recovering
[04:16] <BevMoid> max_ did you try jack?
[04:16] <Starnestommy> Cle0: remove that first line or put a # at the beginning of it
[04:16] <BevMoid> i havent used it just heard of it on the forums
[04:16] <harushimo> do digital cameras work in ubuntu
[04:16] <x0x> jim, i badly need a ftpd.
[04:16] <harushimo> I can't get my working
[04:16] <thoreauputic> decay: you want fusion-icon
[04:17] <thoreauputic> decay: sudo apt-get install fusion-icon
[04:17] <ChaosTheory_> Anyone familiar with Avant Window Navigator?
[04:17] <BevMoid> i dont know if it will work
[04:17] <Starnestommy> harushimo: some do, some don't
[04:17] <bazhang> Hardy discusiion is okay in here?
[04:17] <Ashfire908> jim: i didn't find anything in the system log (nothing that would cause it to run butt slow and hang alot while doing easy tasks)
[04:17] <nickrud> bazhang not yet
[04:17] <harushimo> I'm guessing canon sd 200 doesn't work
[04:17] <BevMoid> i dunno this will be a hardy chat in 2 weeks
[04:17] <thoreauputic> decay: it will be in the Applications - System Tools menu
[04:17] <xShad0w___> o damn just came back, no hardy in here, where do we get support for it?
[04:17] <BevMoid> but for now i assume gutsy
[04:17] <nickrud> xShad0w___ #ubuntu+1 is handling hardy questions until release,  /j #ubuntu+1
[04:18] <xShad0w___> thanks
[04:18] <prettyricky> I love avan window navigator... its better than Kiba-dock
[04:18] <bazhang> getting tired of being pffft'd for referring the people to another channel like cycom just did
[04:18] <BevMoid> kiba just tries to be fancy
[04:18] <thoreauputic> decay: btw this is the channel for ubuntu - you should ask in #ubuntu+1 if you are running hardy
[04:18] <BevMoid> awn is subtle beauty
[04:18] <decay> thoreauputic: thank you!!
[04:18] <prettyricky> BevMoid-------> totally agree with you@
[04:18] <thoreauputic> decay: no problem - /join #ubuntu+1 please for further hardy info
[04:18] <BevMoid> thank you. it just is.
[04:19] <harushimo> what does multiple" Identify camera request failed". OS error in camera communcation
[04:19] <harushimo> what does that mean
[04:19] <decay> thoreauputic: will do. thanks again
[04:19] <thoreauputic> decay: :)
[04:19] <wbreslin951> how do you add another user in terminal?
[04:19] <Marfi> what is the name of the file that holds modules that starts up?
[04:19] <NoTownKasper> Ok this is my current HD/partition/menu.lst/device.map information...That look right? Before I reboot and test it?
[04:19] <thoreauputic> wbreslin951:  sudo adduser <username>
[04:19] <NoTownKasper> http://pastebin.com/d13d73155
[04:19] <Cle0> Starnestommy http://paste.debian.net/283
[04:19] <wbreslin951> wut about password?
[04:19] <Cle0> Starnestommy see it plz
[04:20] <max_> BevMoid - Thanks for the tip.   Apparently there's no GUI for installing jack server..
[04:20] <thoreauputic> wbreslin951: it will prompt
[04:20] <Marfi> i just answered my question, never mind. =)
[04:20] <BevMoid> o
[04:20] <Starnestommy> Cle0: run sudo apt-get update then try again
[04:20] <thoreauputic> wbreslin951: ah perhaps not - in that case sudo passwd <username>
[04:20] <BevMoid> max_: well atleast it is a starting point for yah
[04:20] <max_> jackd is installed, but not running...
[04:20] <Cle0> Starnestommy i have do it
[04:20] <SeaPhor> bazhang: I will drop a 160 GB hdd in and do a fresh install tomorrow if someone tells me they'll help me get the wireless PCI rtl 8185 working on this desktop, cause a few ppl have tried  telling me "enable this" or "disable that" or configure ndiswrapper, and so far,,, all i can see is that i have a seperate network icon and a meter bar next to it, but it doesnt connect
[04:20] <harushimo> then it says could not establish camera connection
[04:20] <wbreslin951> it did it thanks all
[04:20] <bazhang> SeaPhor: that card works best with ndiswrapper if I recall correctly; not very elegant but from just reading the ubuntuforums seems the best choice for now
[04:20] <d4t4min3r> im hoping someone can refresh my memory
[04:21] <x0x> how to upload file to remote server? without ftpd
[04:21] <x0x> how to upload file to remote server without ftpd?
[04:21] <Cle0> Starnestommy i have do it but always the same errore
[04:21] <Starnestommy> Cle0: then I think it's a problem with those packages, but I'm not sure how to fix it
[04:21] <d4t4min3r> I remember seeing something I think on ubuntu web page about an open source school type program, were you can host tests and people can sign up as students
[04:21] <BevMoid> x0x don't spam
[04:21] <Ashfire908> what does having a line in the system log with "audit(1207622952.624:3):  type=1503 operation="inode_permission" ..." indicate?
[04:21] <d4t4min3r> does anyone remember this
[04:21] <BevMoid> x0x: in the url of your browser
[04:21] <xShad0w___> i have a hardy dependent question about symantec touchpad's, im trying to get two finger right click working (like in mac os x) anyone know the correct xorg.conf settings for that
[04:21] <SeaPhor> bazhang: well I do appreciate that you looked that up, and thank you.
[04:22] <x0x> BevMoid what>?
[04:22] <Starnestommy> x0x: if you hav ssh access, use scp
[04:22] <Starnestommy> *have
[04:22] <jordo2323_> Has anyone been successful getting MLB.com video to work under Firefox/Mplayer (It's silverlight video)
[04:22] <Cle0> Starnestommy ok no problem:)
[04:22] <thoreauputic> x0x: you don't need ftpd to upload with ftp - it's a server Youcan use any ftp client
[04:22] <x0x> Starnestommy what is scp?
[04:22] <thoreauputic> x0x: or scp, sftp etc etc
[04:22] <bazhang> SeaPhor: and no reinstall would be necessary if that helps out
[04:22] <BevMoid> x0x: dont you know how to log into an ftp with your browser?
[04:22] <Starnestommy> x0x: Secure CoPy.  it's like the command-line cp command, but it works over ssh
[04:22] <BevMoid> x0x: if there side supports it you can do it, if it does not you need one
[04:22] <x0x> lmfao if ftpd is not installed how to connect?
[04:22] <nickrud> NoTownKasper http://pastebin.com/m7bb01112 is what I would try
[04:22] <thoreauputic> x0x: scp is a secure file transfer - you need ssh basically
[04:23] <x0x> thoreauputic i do.
[04:23] <nickrud> bazhang heh. pffttt ;)
[04:23] <thoreauputic> x0x: I repeat: ftpd is a *server* - you only need a client
[04:23] <x0x> i have root acess :D
[04:23] <bazhang> xShad0w___: someone in the hardy channel got that working
[04:23] <x0x> i dont have ftpd installed
[04:23] <x0x> or doesnt work
[04:23] <xShad0w___> bazhang: thanks
[04:23] <BevMoid> apache can be an ftp server
[04:23] <thoreauputic> x0x: root access has nothing to do with it
[04:23] <x0x> i know
[04:24] <bazhang> nickrud: sixteen days and wubi support cannot come soon enough ;]
[04:24] <x0x> tell me how do i install ftpd?
[04:24] <NoTownKasper> You sure? Linux won't boot if I have it set to hd1,0.
[04:24] <x0x> proftpd
[04:24] <thoreauputic> x0x: ftpd is only needed for others to upload to aserver that you are running
[04:24] <nickrud> bazhang ah, you will have the the wubi support, and welcome to it :)
[04:24] <x0x> BevMoid stfu. you dot know anything
[04:24] <thoreauputic> x0x: to have something to connect to...
[04:24] <SeaPhor> bazhang: ndiswrapper is installed, and with the rtl drivers,,, but i think that the ppl trying to help me ,,, well didnt know , and now i have a big mess
[04:24] <bazhang> nickrud: I thought jack_sparrow had claimed dibs on that..
[04:24] <BevMoid> x0x: i have been a web designer and cisco cert network designer for about 30yrs
[04:24] <thoreauputic> x0x: wattch it or you will be out of here
[04:25] <BevMoid> so stfu until you learn something
[04:25] <ChaosTheory_> I don't have permission to move a file. How do I get permission?
[04:25] <BevMoid> i see you asking the question not answering it
[04:25] <NoTownKasper> nickrud: You sure? Ubuntu won't boot if I have it set to hd1,0. Sorry, sometimes I forget to add the names. :(
[04:25] <x0x> lmfao 30 years?
[04:25] <bazhang> BevMoid: please dont say that
[04:25] <thoreauputic> x0x, BevMoid stop *now* please
[04:25] <x0x> BevMoid what your age?
[04:25] <john_> hey
[04:25] <x0x> 100+ ?
[04:25] <Starnestommy> !ot
[04:25] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:25] <stephans> does anyone here use an iPod with Ubuntu?
[04:25] <bazhang> hi john_
[04:25] <nickrud> NoTownKasper I didn't even look at the linux part, just the windows.  hd1,1 is *supposed* to be sda2 according to device.map
[04:25] <r0bertw0es> my gutsy was working fine today until i shutdown.  when i restarted i just get a blinking underscore at the upper left side of the screen and a black screen.  The red activity light on my case stays on steady and nothing happens.
[04:25] <r0bertw0es> i am on livecd now
[04:26] <r0bertw0es> please any ideas
[04:26] <NoTownKasper> hrm...
[04:26] <nickrud> stephans yes
[04:26] <NoTownKasper> I'm confused.
[04:26] <john_> anyone use irssi?
[04:26] <Randocal> How tricky is the upgrade process for moving from one release to the next?
[04:26] <nickrud> NoTownKasper you see in device.map  hd1 is defined as /dev/sda . partitions start at 0 in the hd* notation, so hd1,1 is sda2
[04:26] <bazhang> john_: many do yes; do you have an issue with it
[04:27] <thoreauputic> !anyone | john_
[04:27] <ubotu> john_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:27] <bazhang> Randocal: not tricky at all
[04:27] <Scunizi> john_: I am right now
[04:27] <tarelerulz> When i open any kde based program I get one of two errors .  Will not save configuration can't write to this file /home/usersnam/.kde/share/config/kaboodlerc ? I try to change the permission to the whole .kde file ,but it did not work . Lost anyone
[04:27] <john_> bazhang: well i just downloaded it and was just wondering how to change my nickname/username
[04:27] <NoTownKasper> nickrud: Ok, but theres only one HD in my system...so wouldn't it be the first...?
[04:27] <Starnestommy> john_: /nick new-nickname-here
[04:27] <nickrud> NoTownKasper not according to device.map.
[04:27] <bazhang> john_: you are registered?
[04:27] <Randocal> i've got a buddy that saw my new Gutsy install, and is thinking to jump ship from M$ to Ubuntu as well..... would it be adviseable for a completly new user to just wait for hardy?
[04:27] <john_> i try to use as many cli apps as i can since im running on an old pII
[04:27] <Scunizi> john_: type /nick <new nick> and you're done
[04:28] <doodler> bazhang: registered with what?
[04:28] <Scunizi> doodler: good job.. now have you ever used screen?
[04:28] <bazhang> Randocal: he should run the gutsy livecd and see how well it picks up his wireless video etc
[04:28] <nickrud> NoTownKasper mixed sata/ide is tricky, and to be honest I'm kinda feeling my way here.
[04:28] <NoTownKasper> nickrud: Ok, well...the device map is stoned then. :( I just physically verified the 'only one physical drive' thing like, 20 minutes ago. :|
[04:28] <doodler> SCUNIZI: thanks!
[04:28] <xcnd> I've read through the server docs on the website to get SAMBA up and running, and it's up and running, but I can't seem to access the folders I have specified from another computer. Both of the computers are Ubuntu 8.04.
[04:28] <doodler> scunizi: screen?
[04:28] <xcnd> On the desktop I can see the "homes" icon in the SAMBA folder, but can't gain access.
[04:28] <Randocal> He's already been playing with the gutsy live for the last week or so.... he's liking it so far, and is on a desktop so doesn't have to worry about wireless
[04:29] <crunchybumble> bazhang, you think? is there a harty beta live?
[04:29] <Scunizi> doodler: screen can be your friend when using irssi .. google it and be amazed.
[04:29] <adrock358> have a question.  am a dual booter.  the win forums are dead.  broke my registry.  any good progs outside native to windows that can fix my reg so i can start up?
[04:29] <nickrud> NoTownKasper I understand what you are saying, but sata vs ide is the issue here
[04:29] <NoTownKasper> nickrud: Thanks for giving it a try anyway. :P
[04:29] <bazhang> crunchybumble: aye
[04:29] <NoTownKasper> ok...
[04:29] <doodler> scunizi: ok thanks i'll look it up now
[04:29] <Starnestommy> adrock358: try asking in ##windows
[04:29] <tarelerulz> Randocal , Ubuntu is the easy Linix I have use and close to  windows easy and still linux.  Best place to start.  I would let him or her dual boot for while
[04:29] <crunchybumble> well then I might have him try that. It'd probably be a better gauge of hardy on his system, right?
[04:29] <Scunizi> doodler: cli brower that seems to work pretty well is elinks
[04:29] <adrock358> windows is dead.  nobody says a thing.
[04:29] <pjv> which log is it that has the part when the network is being configured at boot process?
[04:29] <bazhang> crunchybumble: best to wait 16 days though
[04:29] <Starnestommy> pjv: dmesg?
[04:29] <crunchybumble> or he could install it on windows under Wubi, right?
[04:29] <sarixe> hi, i just got a wireless n router to go with my laptop that has intel wireless n.  however, when i view the Connection information, it says it's 54 Mb/s. how do i get it to use N speeds?
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[04:30] <adrock358> do you know any progs off hand though?
[04:30] <thoreauputic> pjv: try dmesg | less
[04:30] <bazhang> crunchybumble: yes wubi is an option
[04:30] <nickrud> pjv should be /var/log/syslog will have that
[04:30] <xcnd> Can anyone help me with a SAMBA issue I'm having between two Ubuntu computers?
[04:30] <thoreauputic> pjv: there's usually a lot of it :)
[04:30] <NoTownKasper> nickrud: I've already tried booting ubuntu at hd0,1 and hd1,0, only hd0,1 actually boots. :\ should the mapping lines fix that?
[04:30] <doodler> scunizi: right now i have lynx installed as a web browser but i hardly use it.  i'm trying to buy a laptop to use full time for linux, but im mostly on osx and xp since i do a ton of visual effects work
[04:30] <nickrud> stephans yes, I had to compile libgpod and gtkpod from gtkpod.org
[04:30] <pjv> yeah that's true
[04:30] <Randocal> I told him it'll walk him through a dual boot, but he's fed up with Windows.... i think he jsut recently got hit (again) by a virus..... so it's sounding like he's ready to ditch M$ completely
[04:31] <pjv> but the one that loads the modules
[04:31] <thoreauputic> pjv: you can search in "less" with /searchterm
[04:31] <nickrud> NoTownKasper if ubuntu boots at hd0,1 , use hd0,0 for windows. But I am getting really confused here
[04:31] <adrock358> Starnestommy, do you know any?
[04:31] <Randocal> i'm just wondering if it's worth waiting the couple weeks for Hardy, rather than trying to upgrade Gutsy to Hardy right off the bat as a new user
[04:31] <Starnestommy> adrock358: no
[04:31] <NoTownKasper> nickrud: So am I...hence, why I'm here. :P
[04:31] <adrock358> nickrud, can i ask you a question?
[04:31] <aaycumi> hi all
[04:31] <amenado> Randocal-> why the need to delay the learning?
[04:31] <nickrud> adrock358 I'm always open to questions, but never promise answers
[04:31] <pjv> theor: it's almost at the end of the boot process, where it loads all the services
[04:32] <pjv> thoreauputic: rather
[04:32] <Randocal> I suppose, i just for some reason thoguht that an upgrade might somehow be tricky....
[04:32] <bazhang> Randocal: good point; better to use the livecd until hardy or just install gutsy now and then really learn a lot in the process of upgrading
[04:32] <xcnd> Randocal, I'm on Hardy right now, and although I'm not a new user, it's very stable and shouldn't cause any problems. If you feel like upgrading to the testing release right now, I say go for it.
[04:32] <tarelerulz> Randocal,  If he is getting hit by virus this would be a good time to show him Linux.  Which don't get any virus I know of .
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[04:32] <adrock358> i have a dual boot, but i just broke my win reg somehow.  nobody in ##windows will reply.  do you, offhand, no any progs that will fix my reg?
[04:32] <pjv> so preety much i need the log where it loads the services
[04:32] <bazhang> adrock358: this is waaay offtopic here
[04:32] <adrock358> so?
[04:33] <Randocal> I just installed the Hardy beta on my PC upstairs this evening, but I haven't set anything up on it. Just installed and said "download updates" then walked away.
[04:33] <softtower> Do I have to install "samba" package (and run sabma daemon) if I only want to mount SMB shares on other machines? Without samba server I am getting "wrong fs type" when I do mount -t smbfs
[04:33] <adrock358> it would literally take two words.  or if you don't know, say "no"
[04:33] <tarelerulz> Any of you had problem with kde not being able to write to config files in you home directory ?
[04:33] <nickrud> stephans not too bad. if you do   sudo apt-get build-dep gtkpod , you should have all the requirements for compiling the stuff. Make sure that /usr/local/lib is in /etc/ld.conf.d/glibc , and be sure to run ldconfig at the end of compilation
[04:33] <thoreauputic> pjv: syslog?
[04:33] <NoTownKasper> nickrud: I have a strange idea...you think windows would boot if I inserted the map lines, into the windows boot stanza, then root to the, hopefully, newly mapped windows drive, think that might work?
[04:33] <thoreauputic> pjv: /var/log/syslog
[04:33] <bazhang> tarelerulz: this is gutsy and kde3?
 allright i'll give it a shot..
[04:34] <pjv> i'll try that
[04:34] <aaycumi> need help with enabling Radeon gfx card for desktop effects
[04:34] <Randocal> I'm very happy with Gutsy so far.... only a few small hiccups (i'm pretty new myself) at the moment, hopefully hardy will rectify them for me.
[04:34] <nickrud> NoTownKasper grub still wants the hdx,x to point to the physical partition, even with the mapping
[04:34] <NoTownKasper> hrm...
[04:34] <Randocal> My printer don't wanna play nice, and my mp3 player sometimes disconnects while i'm loading music onto it.
[04:34] <tarelerulz> bazhang:  Yes kde3 I think and I know it is gutsy .  I can't even install kd4 via synaptic . It can't met some dep
[04:35] <bazhang> tarelerulz: are there some permission issues? have you been running as root?
[04:35] <xcnd> Randocal, personally I have never gotten a document to print onto a hard sheet of paper from any Linux system I've ever used. Though I gave up some odd years ago, heh.
[04:35] <aaycumi> who me?
[04:35] <pjv> thoreauputic: thank you
[04:35] <Matt____> hello all
[04:36] <owen1> is there a way to turn my ipod into a regular mp3?
[04:36] <Randocal> It finds my printer (lexmark z51) and says it'll work..... test page prints fine, all my other print attempts fail, and leave me with a "gs" process (sometimes a few of them) that sits there and east 100% of my CPU
[04:36] <aaycumi> can anyone with getting ATI graphics cards working?
[04:36] <thoreauputic> !ati
[04:36] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:36] <Matt____> I'm having trouble with ATI too
[04:36] <tarelerulz> bazhang: when I fist did all this I ran the kde program from my menus when I got the error . then I ran some as root and I still get the error  so I am lost
[04:36] <aaycumi> anyone help*?
[04:36] <NoTownKasper> My brain hurts...
[04:36] <nickrud> owen1 rockbox can be installed on some ipods ...
[04:36] <Matt____> I installed xgl and now I can only use 640x480 resolution
[04:36] <bazhang> aaycumi: see the link above
[04:36] <owen1> nickrud: will it make it regular mp3 player?
[04:36] <AzMoo> Hey, what's the package I need to install to get mouse support on a terminal?
 did you add a repo? like from gtkpod.org?
[04:36] <aaycumi> thanx alot
[04:37] <xcnd> AzMoo, gpm
[04:37] <NoTownKasper> Would it be as simple as just gediting the device.map somehow?
[04:37] <nickrud> owen1 sorta. I've never used rockbox myself
[04:37] <AzMoo> xcnd: That's it, ta :)
[04:37] <harushimo> is there a way to manually mount a digital camera
[04:37] <max_> GRR! How do I get my bass and treble levels?
[04:37] <owen1> nickrud: thanks
[04:37] <nickrud> stephans no, I downloaded the source from that site to ~/projects in my home dir, untarred them then read the README in each. compiled libgpod first
[04:37] <Matt____> I just installed xgl and now I can only use 640x480 resolution, anyone have any ideas?
 ok
[04:38] <bazhang> tarelerulz: sounds like you have some serious permission issues if you cannot write to your home dir
[04:38] <nickrud> Matt____ are you using the restricted manager fglrx?
[04:38] <Matt____> yes
[04:38] <Matt____> am I not supposed to?
[04:38] <nickrud> Matt____ absolutely yes, except:  what kind of ati do you have?
[04:39] <Matt____> its an 1150, a modified version of the 200m
[04:39] <doodler> ok guys, thanks for the help. night!
[04:39] <thoreauputic> harushimo: if it's a usb mass storage device, run dmesg| tail and/or tail -f /var/log/syslog and look for the device ( usually sometning like sda1 ) then mount that manually
[04:39] <nickrud> matt__ this works properly:  system->admin->restricted driver , enable ati restricted. reboot. log in, run fglrxinfo and make sure it's using ati 8.37.6 driver. install xserver-xgl compizconfig-settings-manager , then log out and back in. Go to system->prefs->appearance effects tab
[04:39] <harushimo> i'm gonna try that
[04:39] <harushimo> thanks
[04:39] <tarelerulz> bazhang:  I thought ruhning a program as root would fix all that not write  . Still the same error. It just seem to be with kde stuff every else works fine. why did you ask if I was running kde3 ?
[04:39] <jrgp> when will Hardy LTS be released? 4/8/2008??
[04:39] <thoreauputic> harushimo: eg. sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt or whatever
[04:40] <Matt____> the ati restricted is already in use
[04:40] <thoreauputic> harushimo: dmesg | tail after plugging it in should show some output
[04:40] <nickrud> jrgp around the 25th
[04:40] <harushimo> ok I will do that
[04:40] <xcnd> Can anyone help with SAMBA folder errors I'm getting between two Ubuntu machines?
[04:40] <bazhang> jrgp: april 24th
[04:40] <jrgp> ok, thanks
[04:40] <NoTownKasper> nickrud:  Ok, I'm going to try rebooting with your laste pastebin...I'll see if it works. :\
[04:40] <Matt____> should I unable it, and renable it?
[04:40] <nickrud> Matt____ ok, next sudo apt-get remove --purge xserver-xgl , then log out and back in to test the fgrlxinfo
[04:40] <Matt____> okay
[04:40] <Matt____> thanks
[04:41] <bazhang> tarelerulz: running which program as root?
[04:42] <tarelerulz> Well, I have ran most of the new kde programs as rook.  They all seem to have the same problem.
[04:42] <harushimo> when i do it manually? do I need umount the drive? like the external hdd
[04:43] <bazhang> tarelerulz: the new kde programs? which are those
[04:43] <thoreauputic> harushimo: if you mount something then yes, you need to umount before removal
[04:43] <harushimo> that what I figured. I just don't understand why my digital camera doesn't work on ubuntu
[04:44] <tarelerulz> bazhang:  I have run kaboodle is one and think ksirc and that is all I remember ,but they all seem to have the same error
[04:44] <harushimo> I keep on getting error in the connection and OS error
[04:44] <owen1> i lost some important files of the ipod OS. is there a way to restore them?
[04:44] <owen1> or use some other OS..
[04:44] <xcnd> I can't access my shared folders from one Ubuntu installation on another via SAMBA, can anyone help?
[04:44] <thoreauputic> harushimo: is it supported ? search wiki.ubuntu.com for hardware
[04:44] <nickrud> owen1 you can do that with itunes, I understand that gtkpod will do it for older ipods
[04:44] <xcnd> (I can see the folders, just can't access them)
[04:45] <harushimo> its shows up as Canon Digital IX 30 but then I get an error in the connection
[04:45] <owen1> nickrud: thanks. btw i am reading about rockbox. interesting stuff.
[04:45] <harushimo> it won't import the pictures
[04:46] <thoreauputic> !hardware | harushimo
[04:46] <ubotu> harushimo: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[04:46] <tarelerulz> All/the  config files for .kde seem to be root ,but they are on my normal user home directory
[04:47] <bazhang> tarelerulz: never a good idea to run apps as root; what were you doing? sudo ksirc (i hope not)
[04:47] <nickrud> tarelerulz that means you were running kde apps with sudo, try  sudo chown -R you:you ~/.kde
[04:48] <tarelerulz> nickrud:  You mean the you:you as being my normal users ?
[04:49] <nickrud> tarelerulz yes, your usual user name
[04:50] <jim> you-user:you-group can be fed to chown which can be run as root
[04:50] <max_> How do I change my bass and treble for firefox?
[04:50] <smallfry> how can i get y webcam working with amsn?
[04:51] <jim> you would need filters to make that work
[04:51] <harushimo> is there difference between the version we get online and the one dell ships?
[04:51] <tarelerulz> I run couple kde program using sudo . I don't see why that would turn the whole thing into root.
[04:51] <harushimo> I don't think so right
[04:51] <sarixe> anyone know how to get iwl4965 to run at N speed?
[04:51] <jim> what are you running now?
[04:51] <tarelerulz> Plus I had the problem of not writting  to the config files before I ran anything with sudo
[04:52] <tawt> !wifi
[04:52] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:52] <sarixe> thanks
[04:52] <bazhang> sarixe: in gutsy?
[04:52] <tarelerulz> jim, if you talking to me I am not running any kde programs
[04:52] <sarixe> bazhang : no, hardy, but nobody in #ubuntu+1 was answering
[04:53] <aoeuid> does anyone know where I could find a library called libdpstk.so?
[04:53] <olivier> Hi there!
[04:53] <r3n0c> hey, does anybody have experience using medusa?
[04:53] <aoeuid> it's required for a binary...
[04:54] <jim> libdipstick?
[04:55] <sarixe> lulz
[04:55] <jim> what binary?
[04:55] <aoeuid> jim: http://www.couleur.org/index.php?page=download
[04:55] <aoeuid> called colorspace
[04:56] <Mr_Bad_News> can someone help me getting mplayer to work in opera and firefox
[04:56] <Mr_Bad_News> i have mozplugger installed
[04:56] <jim> so is that in ubuntu?
[04:56] <Mr_Bad_News> and the plugins are all in the right directory
[04:56] <aoeuid> jim: it's intended for debian
[04:56] <jim> I keep mine in the left directory...
[04:56] <aoeuid> but that's the only bin he gives
[04:57] <r3n0c> exit
[04:57] <jim> so is it packaged for ubuntu?
[04:57] <Mr_Bad_News> opera wont play flash either
[04:57] <aoeuid> no
[04:57] <Starnestommy> aoeuid: is there a source version?
[04:57] <aoeuid> nope
[04:57] <aoeuid> closed source
[04:57] <Flannel> aoeuid: Whats contained in the archives?  Is it source or what?
[04:58] <pedro> why doesnt my avatar show up in pidgin when i change it? i have tried every image format, and i have restarted, even deleted .purple. its been on for two days, so i know it isnt the server.. what gives?
[04:58] <olivier> Do it's possible to install suse on the same partition of my ubuntu in a different mount point?
[04:58] <aoeuid> Starnestommy: just the binary and some files explaining how to use it...
[04:58] <nickrud> olivier not really, you need another partition for it.
[04:59] <mjs7231> Pedro, are you changing the global avatar or the specific avatar for your connection?
[04:59] <pedro> global in pidgin mjs7231
[04:59] <Starnestommy> aoeuid: it's not part of ubuntu and it's closed source, so I don't think anyone here knows how to fix it
[04:59] <olivier> nickrud: ok thank you!
[04:59] <aoeuid> what about just finding out what libdpstk is?
[04:59] <aoeuid> since that's all it's complaining about
[05:00] <Flannel> aoeuid: Its not in debian, as far as I can tell
[05:00] <mjs7231> pedro: Check the specific ones.. GOTO >> ACCOUNTS >> MANAGE >> Choose IM  >> MODIFY.  Make sure both buttons near the bottom are NOT checked.
[05:00] <pedro> mjs7231: doesnt work either
[05:00] <mjs7231> hmm, thats all I got. :-P
[05:01] <Flannel> aoeuid: Sounds like your best course of action would be to email the guy for some actual installation instructions.
[05:02] <mjs7231> Mr_Bad_News: I have the same issue.. not sure how I set it up wrong.
[05:04] <Mr_Bad_News> does firefox freeze alot mjs7231 ?
[05:04] <xcnd> I'm looking for some help gaining access to a SAMBA share that I can see on my desktop but can't access.
[05:05] <mjs7231> Mr_Bad_News: I am using FireFox3 beta 3, and it does freeze a little.. but not to the point of being terribly annoying or unusable.
[05:05] <xcnd> I'm using Firefox3 Beta _5_ and I haven't had any problems yet :\
[05:05] <Mr_Bad_News> mine keeps freezing and whenever i try to save something to hard drive it crashes
[05:05] <jim_beam> has anyone installed enlightenment e17
[05:06] <Mr_Bad_News> yea
[05:06] <Mr_Bad_News> i just did
[05:06] <Mr_Bad_News> its great
[05:06] <akatsuki> hello people for some reason every window i open appears without the - x symbols.. i cant close or open a new one
[05:06] <Mr_Bad_News> darklife is an awesome theme
[05:06] <jim_beam> in gdm i get an error saying to use enlightenment_star
[05:06] <akatsuki> anyone know how to fix this?
[05:07] <jim_beam> how do you edit gdm sessions
[05:07] <Mr_Bad_News> did you try the command jim_beam ?
[05:07] <Flannel> xcnd: Is this hardy?
[05:07] <jim_beam> yes in a terminal and it would load
[05:07] <xcnd> Flannel, yes, I'm using Hardy.
[05:07] <jim_beam> but its the only way
[05:08] <Flannel> xcnd: Hardy support is in #ubuntu+1, thanks.
[05:08] <akatsuki> hello people for some reason every window i open appears without the - x symbols.. i cant close or open a new one
[05:08] <mjs7231> akatsuki: I can't help you, but thats terribly funny. :)
[05:08] <jim_beam> Mr_Bad_News where is GDM config
[05:09] <headrx> Hey, if i upgrade from 7.10 to 8.. will i lose all my files?
[05:09] <mjs7231> akatsuki: can you press ALT+RightClick to bring up a menu and close the window?
[05:09] <headrx> i mean, not d/l the iso and reinstall, but just upgrade
[05:09] <crunchybumble> I'm trying to recover lost partitions. Testdisk can find them. I've just never used a rescue disk before. How can I tell grub about the ones I want to boot from, and make it see them, if I can't boot into my linux system
[05:09] <xcnd> headrx, in that case, no.
[05:09] <Mr_Bad_News> jim_beam, im trying to look it up but firefox keeps crashing
[05:09] <mjs7231> thats a horrible work around for when you fix this issue
[05:09] <saltedlight> akatsuki, first try to disable the visual efects, then try to enable an window decorator
[05:09] <Mr_Bad_News> its in /etc btw jim_beam
[05:10] <headrx> xcnd :  can you please give me the command to do so?
[05:10] <Mr_Bad_News> /etc/gdm/gdm.config
[05:10] <tawt> In the Taskbar click the Network Manager icon.  What does this mean?  Where is the taskbar?
[05:10] <akatsuki> there was a easy command to resolve this
[05:10] <akatsuki> this is the second time this happen to me
[05:10] <xcnd> headrx, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades
[05:10] <akatsuki> but i cant remembe the command lol!
[05:10] <headrx> thanks
[05:10] <xcnd> Something there ought to help you.
[05:10] <akatsuki> one guy here give it to me and it fix it
[05:10] <Mr_Bad_News> tawt,  system > adminstrator > network manager ?
[05:11] <Mr_Bad_News> or just network
[05:11] <saltedlight> akatsuki, is the comand that you use to start the window decorator... depends on yours
[05:11] <tawt> maybe?
[05:11] <nalpha> hiy gus... anyone know.. how to block spesific programs to spesific users??
[05:11] <Mr_Bad_News> is that what you mean?
[05:11] <tawt> it specifically asked for Network Manager
[05:12] <donkey7186> I have a question. Is there a program on UBUNTU that is similar to Microsoft Web Expression?????????????
[05:12] <Flannel> donkey7186: What does web expression do?
[05:12] <Mr_Bad_News> system > administrator > network  tawt
[05:12] <donkey7186> its a web page builder
[05:12] <Flannel> donkey7186: Check out kompozer
[05:12] <tawt> Mr_Bad_news: thanks
[05:12] <Mr_Bad_News> or just run network-admin from the terminal
[05:12] <donkey7186> flannel thanks i will do
[05:12] <tawt> ok
[05:13] <donkey7186> flannel the web expression really doesnt use code. is there anything really similar?
[05:13] <Mr_Bad_News> anyone know how to get flash and mplayer working in opera?
[05:13] <elmer> OK, I can't get cron to work
[05:14] <Flannel> donkey7186: kompozer is WYSIWYG too.
[05:14] <elmer> I go crontab -e
[05:14] <JPSman> is it possible to use my linksys access point as a wireless connection to another access point?
[05:14] <elmer> and then type in: 15 21 * * * totem /home/staylor/Music/01\ Age\ Of\ Innocence\ \(Part\ I\).mp3
[05:15] <elmer> but at 9:15 the command does not run
[05:15] <elmer> can anybody help me out?
[05:15] <wapko> Mr_Bad_News: i had to get opera 9.50b before flash 9 would work
[05:15] <Flannel> elmer: does that command run if you enter it just like that in the terminal?
[05:15] <elmer> Flannel, yes it does
[05:16] <elmer> Oh dangit, Flannel. It gives an error!
[05:16] <eXcentra> elmer: just making sure... are backslashes necessary for parentheses?
[05:16] <Mr_Bad_News> how do i get 9.50 wapko
[05:16] <olivier> Do it's possible to resize the partition of my ubuntu?
[05:16] <Mr_Bad_News> i have 9.27
[05:16] <nalpha> hm.. guys how to edit start menu from command prompt? THanx a lot.
[05:17] <JPSman> can I have ubuntu see my wired connection to my linksys access point as a WIRELESS recieve/transmitter?
[05:17] <n-iCe> hi why my windows doesn't show the title bar?
[05:18] <xcnd> nalpha, "alacarte" will bring you into the menu editing program.
[05:18] <crunchybumble> night all
[05:18] <wapko> Mr_Bad_News: on www.opera.com. click the Show other version link on the download page
[05:18] <nalpha> xcnd: hm... i means... with ssh from far away... heheh.. i just want to block some user to run spesific program like chatting and web browser...
[05:19] <jim_beam> Mr_Bad_News evidently those files do not contain sessions
[05:19] <Flannel> nalpha: Removing them from the menu wont affect their ability to run them
[05:19] <Mr_Bad_News> idk jim_beam i havent had problems
[05:19] <n-iCe> 05020888
[05:19] <nalpha> Flannel: as they don't know to run from command line? hehe
[05:20] <n-iCe> hi why my windows doesn't show the title bar?
[05:20] <elmer> Flannel, OK. I got a working command, but crontab still doesn't work!
[05:20] <Mr_Bad_News> ok thats the 7th time firefox has crashed
[05:20] <Mr_Bad_News> and i cant get video or flash working in opera
[05:20] <elmer> eXcentra, OK. I got a working command, but crontab still doesn't work!
[05:20] <jim_beam> what source are u using for e17
[05:21] <wapko> ohh. opera has its perks aswell Mr_Bad_News  :D
[05:21] <Mr_Bad_News> can you get rosetta stone working for linux?
[05:21] <headrx> maybe under wine
[05:21] <Mr_Bad_News> or is there a program similar for french
[05:22] <JPSman> Mr_Bad_News: are you using hardy?
[05:22] <Mr_Bad_News> feisty
[05:22] <n-iCe> hi
[05:23] <elmer> I need help badly. I can't get crontab to work!
[05:23] <Johnson> whats the best way to manage an ipod with ubuntu?
[05:24] <n-iCe> !compiz
[05:24] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[05:24] <Mr_Bad_News> wapko, should i get it in tar format?
[05:24] <xcnd> !samba
[05:24] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[05:24] <n-iCe> hi why my windows doesn't show the title bar? and how can I fix it?
[05:25] <augusto> oie
[05:25] <Starnestommy> n-iCe: are you using compiz?
[05:25] <headrx> i am
[05:25] <elmer> eXcentra? Flannel? Are you still there? I still need help!
[05:25] <n-iCe> yes but i didn't launch it
[05:25] <augusto> eu ainda estou tentando mexer
[05:25] <augusto> olá a todos
[05:25] <n-iCe> I mean I rebooted, that's why is not activated right now, Starnestommy
[05:25] <crb_> hello, I'm having a problem with loading a module on boot
[05:26] <Starnestommy> n-iCe: try hitting alt+f2 then entering 'metacity --replace'
[05:26] <crb_> I was wondering if it was possible to run a command after logon as root
[05:26] <JPSman> any networking gods out there?
[05:26] <n-iCe> Starnestommy,  error
[05:26] <ec> I'm totally new to using *nix as a gui, and I just installed ubuntu... how do I set the main startup disk?
[05:26] <elmer> kthx
[05:26] <ec> from the GUI?
[05:27] <elmer> Guys, since you can't help I am leaving
[05:27] <elmer> sorry
[05:27] <ec> lol @ elmer
[05:28] <n-iCe> Starnestommy,  if I use compiz --replace  it works :/
[05:29] <archman> guys, wifi-radar is connecting me to some access point on startup? How can i disable that?
[05:29] <Danish989> !ntfs-3g
[05:29] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:30] <yareckon> if all else fails ->apt-get remove wifi-radar
[05:32] <Danish989> !debian
[05:32] <ubotu> Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[05:32] <Danish989> !repositories
[05:32] <KalEl> how can i check the SMART status of my hard disks?
[05:32] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[05:32] <n-iCe> How can I re-install a program?
[05:33] <mjs7231> n-iCe: you mean through aptitude?
[05:33] <n-iCe> mjs7231,  I want to re-install amsn, because is failing, I don't care the way at all
[05:34] <n-iCe> I will be thankful if you can tell me
[05:34] <haxality> hi, how would I run a script after login?
[05:34] <eugene__> try apt-get remove you_prog
[05:34] <mjs7231> n-iCe: You can open Package Manager search for the application, right click and goto reinstall
[05:34] <eugene__> and then apt-get install
[05:34] <mjs7231> there, 2 methods for ya
[05:34] <eugene__> )
[05:34] <kelvin911> what is gobuntu?
[05:35] <thoreauputic> kelvin911: gobuntu is ubuntu with only Free as in Freedom software
[05:35] <archman> i see on their webpage that /etc/init.d/wifi-radar is run on startup. where can i remove that?
[05:36] <mjs7231> archman: Try looking in SYSTEM >> PREFS >> SESSIONS
[05:36] <nikki8965>  /exit
[05:36] <thoreauputic> kelvin911: that is without restricted drivers, patent encumbered software etc.
[05:36] <n-iCe> eugene__,  I didn't use synaptic or apt-get to install it, how can I delete it?
[05:37] <kelvin911> ok, so who will install that?
[05:37] <bullgard4> Can you recommend a SQLite tutorial?
[05:37] <eugene__> how did u install it?
[05:37] <thoreauputic> kelvin911: people who believe in Freedom for software no matter what
[05:37] <n-iCe> eugene__,  from a site package
[05:37] <eugene__> .deb ?
[05:37] <thoreauputic> kelvin911: a similar but even more exacting distro based on Ubuntu is gNewsense
[05:37] <QuickSilver-Dani> throeauputic, isn't ubuntu free too?
[05:38] <kelvin911> without the restricted driver, the video card becomes useless
[05:38] <QuickSilver-Dani> and the software, isn't all that free to?
[05:38] <archman> mjs7231: already looked; nothing there
[05:38] <thoreauputic> Quicksilva: depends on your definition :)
[05:38] <QuickSilver-Dani> hehe, what are the differences?
[05:38] <thoreauputic> Quicksilva: it's maybe 99% Free
[05:38] <xcnd> Can anyone help with connect two Ubuntu computers together via SAMBA? I have the a folder containing the one I want VISIBLE but not ACCESSIBLE at the moment.
[05:38] <archman> mjs7231: but wifi-radar auto-connects me on startup. Sholud i just remove it from /etc/init.d/  ?
[05:38] <n-iCe> eugene__,  .package
[05:38] <nickrud> Free <> free
[05:38] <kelvin911> QuickSilver-Dani: i believe it's the license thing
[05:39] <thoreauputic> Quicksilva: binary drivers, firmware etc for one thing
[05:39] <xcnd> Along with Launchpad itself..
[05:39] <talcite_> hey does anyone here know of a program to play music from a set of nodes?
[05:39] <QuickSilver-Dani> I like the fact that they can all be run side by side (by being installed on top of each other)
[05:39] <ChaosTheory_> I'm trying to install awn applets.
[05:39] <thoreauputic> xcnd: Yes, so far launchpad is non-free
[05:39] <bullgard4> xcnd: Please report the error message that you obtain.
[05:39] <eugene__> i am not sure what you mean. what kind of file was that?
[05:40] <ChaosTheory_> But, when I do sudo apt-get install awn-core-applets-bzr, I get an error.
[05:40] <kelvin911> is there better dock than awn?
[05:40] <ChaosTheory_> ec: Couldn't find package awn-core-applets-bzr
[05:40] <thoreauputic> xcnd: ah sorry different conversation :)
[05:40] <kelvin911> i found that the awn is not really great
[05:40] <ec> ChaosTheory_: eh?
[05:40] <ChaosTheory_> ec: Couldn't find package awn-core-applets-bzr
[05:40] <n-iCe> eugene__,  this file: http://internap.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/amsn/amsn-0.97-1.tcl85.x86.package
[05:40] <eugene__> you generally would download either .deb or source to compile
[05:40] <ChaosTheory_> Sorry.
[05:40] <ChaosTheory_> It's auto-completing. -_-
[05:40] <ec> ChaosTheory_: d=
[05:40] <eugene__> let me see
[05:40] <ChaosTheory_> E: Couldn't find package awn-core-applets-bzr
[05:40] <xcnd> bullgard4, I click the "homes" icon in my "smb://boole/" folder and obtain: "Unable to mount location Failed to mount Windows share"
[05:41] <ChaosTheory_> I've got all the sources enabled?
[05:41] <mjs7231> archman: Thats one option, I would suggest quickly looking online to see where Wifi Radar stores its saved information
[05:41] <KalEl> is there a program that will display the SMART information for my disk?
[05:41] <billy____> is there a help chat like this for windows?
[05:42] <QuickSilver-Dani> you should google and I'm sure you might find something
[05:42] <billy____> so no one knows any specific like #windows or anythign?
[05:42] <thoreauputic> billy____: there's a ##windows I think
[05:42] <billy____> ##windows or #windows?
[05:42] <QuickSilver-Dani> That's how I found this one .. I just googled "ubuntu irc chat"
[05:42] <thoreauputic> two ## IIRC
[05:42] <billy____> fer sher.. thanks thoreauputic
[05:42] <ec> should be ##
[05:43] <n-iCe> eugene__,  I did it, downloading the package and installing it again, it automatically did a uninstall, repair,thanks
[05:43] <xcnd> #(#)windows on freenode is kinda dead, naturally since this is a server dedicated mostly to free software..
[05:43] <ec> lol yeah
[05:43] <archman> mjs7231: in /etc/wifi-radar.conf
[05:43] <eugene__> ))
[05:43] <eugene__> ok, sorry i was too long
[05:44] <billy____> i know this is kinda the wrong place, but im sure someone might be able to help me out? is there a quick way to remove no longer installed programs from the start menu?
[05:44] <decay> d
[05:44] <billy____> please don't yell at me
[05:44] <billy____> i know its the wrong place for that question..
[05:44] <mjs7231> I found a different man page that shows: /etc/conf.d/wifi-radar.conf (whatever one exists) open it up and look inside. :)
[05:44] <billy____> but yeah..
[05:44] <bullgard4> xcnd: I once had a similar error message and could resolve it only by using command line commands. I proceeded along the lines outlined in /usr/share/doc/samba-doc/htmldocs/Samba3-ByExample
[05:44] <foug> is there a command timilar to top/htop but for network activity?
[05:45] <archman> mjs7231: i don't have /etc/conf.d/ ...
[05:45] <ec> Uhm
[05:45] <archman> mjs7231: gutsy
[05:45] <ec> I installed linux on an external drive
[05:45] <ec> but it put GRUB on my MAIN internal drive
[05:45] <ec> and now I can't boot windows, unless the external drive is plugged in
[05:45] <ec> help would be appreciated muchly...
[05:46] <mjs7231> if the firs file exists use that
[05:46] <n-iCe> is pidgin the new gaim?
[05:46] <mjs7231> my machine doesn't have wifi radar installed.
[05:46] <ec> mjs7231: me?
[05:46] <thoreauputic> n-iCe: yes
[05:46] <mjs7231> ec: no
[05:46] <owen1> is there a way to convert iPod to regular mp3 player?
[05:46] <ec> mjs7231: ah, sorry
[05:46] <n-iCe> I like it
[05:46] <ec> owen1: nope
[05:47] <owen1> ec: do u know why?
[05:47] <mjs7231> archman: open up the wifi-radar.conf file to see if you can see any saved connection information in there
[05:47] <ec> owen1: A) s/u/you/g or die
[05:47] <xcnd> owen1, you can technically install a new firmware on the iPod, therefore making it *act* more like a "regular mp3 player"
[05:47] <ec> owen1: B) because apple likes to lock people in
[05:48] <ec> owen1: it's a balance between absolutely awesome products, and putting up with their corporate crap.
[05:48] <ChaosTheory_> is anyone here familiar with awn?
[05:48] <owen1> xcnd: is it complicated?
[05:48] <ChaosTheory_> I can't install the applets.
[05:48] <archman> mjs7231: there are plenty of information about connections; but none to 'turn off'.
[05:48] <xcnd> It depends on the make you have, owen1.
[05:49] <owen1> ec: no more apple for me. ok, maybe mac air but with ubuntu..
[05:49] <Mr_Bad_News> has anyone ever gotten rosetta stone to work through wine?
[05:49] <mjs7231> archman: If I understand wifi-radar correctly, it will search all the saved connection and auto connect to them if it sees it broadcasting
[05:50] <ec> owen1: it's your choice.
[05:50] <owen1> xcnd: nano v2
[05:50] <archman> mjs7231: At boot time, running WiFi Radar will automatically scan for an available preferred network and connect to it
[05:50] <ec> owen1: I use and love nearly every apple product, including an iPhone, Mac Pro, and MBA.
[05:50] <ArMaGeDdOn> hello
[05:50] <ec> owen1: Some people refuse to put up with the lockins and whatnot, that's their choice.
[05:50] <ArMaGeDdOn> i need some help with hacking
[05:50] <foug> is there a command timilar to top/htop but for network activity?
[05:50] <mjs7231> Mr_Bad_News: I searched all the information for that a while back. It seems people had all sorts of problems with cracking sound and such
[05:50] <ArMaGeDdOn> can any body help?
[05:51] <xcnd> owen1, are you used to playing around with the insides of applications and stuff of the sort? tweaking configuration files manually until it's right?
[05:51] <mjs7231> Mr_Bad_News: All the sites I read come to the same conclusion of "Your better off using VMWare"
[05:51] <Mr_Bad_News> vmware be better
[05:51] <Mr_Bad_News> yea
[05:51] <bazhang> ArMaGeDdOn: hacking what? that sounds fishy
[05:51] <owen1> xcnd: with ubuntu. but nothing crazy.
[05:51] <ArMaGeDdOn> sounds fishy??
[05:51] <ArMaGeDdOn> pm and i will ask ya if ya have some techniques
[05:51] <jim> ArMaGeDdOn: no, smells fishy :) what are you hacking?
[05:52] <xcnd> owen1, I'd recommend against doing it yourself then.
[05:52] <Mr_Bad_News> mjs7231, i have an iso on disc
[05:52] <mjs7231> archman: So it sounds like you need to do one of; Remove the connection information so Wifi-Radar doesn't know about it, OR remove wifi-Radar from loading at boot.
[05:52] <Mr_Bad_News> what do i do on windows to get it to work
[05:52] <Mr_Bad_News> i havent been on windows for a while
[05:52] <hikejinx> I've asked in both compiz and kubuntu first with no response (dead rooms), but does anyone here know how to enable the ability to drag a window to another face on a cube in kubuntu. It's default in ubuntu.
[05:52] <ArMaGeDdOn> jim ??
[05:52] <bazhang> ArMaGeDdOn: this is the wrong channel for that
[05:52] <owen1> xcnd: ok.
[05:52] <mjs7231> Mr_Bad_News: I don't know what that means.. you can't install it in VMWare?
[05:52] <thoreauputic> ArMaGeDdOn: if you actually mean "cracking" then you are totally off-topic for this channel
[05:53] <Mr_Bad_News> rosetta stone?
[05:53] <ArMaGeDdOn> bazhang can u gimme the channel name??
[05:53] <mjs7231> I know what an ISO is, but how is that relevant. :)
[05:53] <Mr_Bad_News> or windows?
[05:53] <Mr_Bad_News> the rosetta stone program is in iso format
[05:53] <ChaosTheory_> Can anyone help with awn?
[05:53] <archman> mjs7231: how do i remove wr from loading at boot?
[05:53] <owen1> how to copy all files in a dir (and sub dir) with .mp3 extensions to another folder?
[05:53] <thoreauputic> ArMaGeDdOn: please leave - no-one here will help with black hat hacking
[05:54] <mjs7231> Mr_Bad_News: I also read online that the ISO image was quite tricky to get working off disk, Burning it to a CD might give you easier results.. at least for first run
[05:54] <ArMaGeDdOn> thoreauputic - i will leave moron
[05:54] <bazhang> wow
[05:54] <Mr_Bad_News> so burn the files in the iso to disc
[05:54] <jim> ArMaGeDdOn: you know, that fishy smell, when they extract the cod liver oil from the codfish and it stinks so bad you begin to notice yourself responding to the smell, heaving... it's like you imagine the smell and then start responding to it
[05:54] <Mr_Bad_News> or burn it as an iso
[05:54] <mjs7231> archman: it seems there was a bug on this here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wifi-radar/+bug/97333
[05:54] <bazhang> arma not nice to call names in here thanks
[05:54] <thoreauputic> he left before I could kick him :)
[05:55] <owen1> bash question - how to copy only files with specific extension?
[05:55] <mjs7231> archman: Read that page, they seem to have a work around to remove it from booting up
[05:55] <mjs7231> archman: Sorry, I think that might not be exactly what you wanted
[05:56] <archman> mjs7231: it has nothing to do with booting...
[05:56] <pclync1> I need to delete "guest" account from my computer. how do i delete the "guest" home dir? whats the command to delete dir with files
[05:56] <jim> owen1: info bash, look around for filename substitution
[05:56] <mjs7231> archman: Sorry, here is the one I saw.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wifi-radar/+bug/107696
[05:57] <owen1> jim: thanks
[05:57] <Starnestommy> pclync1: rm -rf dir
[05:57] <ChaosParser> !rm
[05:57] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[05:57] <pclync1> Starnestommy : thanks
[05:57] <mjs7231> archman: That information gets a little out of my territory.. :(
[05:57] <hikejinx> I've asked in both compiz and kubuntu first with no response (dead rooms), but does anyone here know how to enable the ability to drag a window to another face on a cube in kubuntu. It's default in ubuntu.
[05:58] <mjs7231> Mr_Bad_News: Burn it as an Image. so it looks like a store copy
[05:58] <archman> guys how to remove an application from starting at boot???
[05:58] <bazhang> hikejinx: go into ccsm and enable drag window plugin
[05:58] <ArMaGeDdOn> ok then am using windows vista
[05:58] <hikejinx> bazhang: thank you very much :)
[05:58] <CloudFX> hi, im looking to run hardy heron beta on a virtual machine, where can i get some assistance on this?
[05:58] <Mr_Bad_News> i got opera 9.50
[05:58] <ArMaGeDdOn> is ubuntu better than vista?
[05:58] <Mr_Bad_News> flash still doesnt work
[05:59] <bazhang> archman: any reason not to let wr start at boot
[05:59] <bazhang> ArMaGeDdOn: stop please
[05:59] <ArMaGeDdOn> bazhang am new for the linux
[05:59] <pantsd_> Question: I upgraded to 8.04 today and when I try to install a cabal package with ghc I get "<interactive>: /usr/lib/ghc-6.8.2/lib/Cabal-1.2.3.0/HSCabal-1.2.3.0.o: unknown symbol `oldzmtimezm1zi0zi0zi0_SystemziTime_a97_closure' . I can't seem to find a bug in launchpad associated with this.
[05:59] <mjs7231> bazhang: He has it connecting to some wireless point he can't stop
[05:59] <bem> ArMaGeDdOn, to find out if it's appropriate for you, give it a try
[05:59] <mjs7231> bazhang: I don't have wireless on my system so I was guessing at help. :-P
[06:00] <bazhang> he was not serious about trying linux, just bored most likely
[06:00] <archman> bazhang: i don't want to connect to some network on startup :-(
[06:00] <bazhang> archman: the neighbors?
[06:00] <archman> bazhang: yeah
[06:00] <nalpha> hello.. IF I add new user to /etc/group (spesific group) it's directly works? or I must restart some services?
[06:01] <archman> bazhang: how to disable it?
[06:01] <AutoMatriX> hi folks, is there somebody who knows how to sync a Nokia6610 cellular with Evolution ?
[06:01] <Starnestommy> nalpha: you'll need to that user to log out then back in, iirc
[06:01] <RoAkSoAx> nalpha, u should use addgroup command
[06:01] <bazhang> archman: not sure about wifi radar but with just the cli you associate that card with your hotspot so that it wont look for others--might be a better choice than wifi radar
[06:01] <hikejinx> Actually it was in rotate cube, edge flip move, but you got me in the right direction bazhang ;)
[06:01] <bazhang> hikejinx: have fun ;]
[06:02] <nalpha> Starnestommy: ow...
[06:02] <hikejinx> bazhang: thank you very much. Good night all.
[06:02] <nalpha> Starnestommy: thanx alot i will try.
[06:02] <archman> bazhang: youre saying maybe to remove wr and connect via cli anytime i want to connect?
[06:03] <philip_> hello
[06:03] <philip_> need help
[06:03] <bazhang> archman: do you have to do that with wifi radar anyway; if it is associated then it will be locked onto that ap (yours not the neighbors)
[06:03] <mjs7231> Mr_Bad_News: If you figure out the flash issue, let me know! :-D
[06:03] <bazhang> philip_: need info to help you
[06:04] <Mr_Bad_News> k
[06:04] <philip_> anyone tried to configure   ubuntu desktop joining Windows 2003 domain controller?
[06:04] <Mr_Bad_News> mjs7231, if the rosetta stone is in iso how do i get wine to run it
[06:04] <archman> bazhang: so can you tell me how to disable an application to not run at boot?
[06:04] <archman> bazhang: /etc/init.d/  ?
[06:04] <mjs7231> Mr_Bad_News: I thought you were going to go the VMWare route
[06:04] <Mr_Bad_News> i am
[06:05] <Mr_Bad_News> but id just like to know
[06:05] <Mr_Bad_News> vmware is only 11%
[06:05] <Mr_Bad_News> so i got time
[06:05] <bazhang> archman: that would be in the wifi radar configuration; do they have a faq--what is the link for their homepage
[06:05] <mjs7231> LOL
[06:05] <mjs7231> I think you just install it normally
[06:05] <Mr_Bad_News> how?
[06:05] <mjs7231> http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=1867
[06:05] <bazhang> this is in the repos?
[06:05] <mjs7231> the site shows it works OK
[06:06] <archman> bazhang: http://wifi-radar.systemimager.org/
[06:06] <mjs7231> but I think the people in forums say otherwise
[06:06] <Mr_Bad_News> i tired the help thing
[06:06] <Mr_Bad_News> but it depends on the file being .exe
[06:06] <Mr_Bad_News> what do i do if its iso
[06:07] <mjs7231> Mr_Bad_News: I am telling you to make an ISO because the system needs the CD in the CD tray to work.  (This is post install)
[06:07] <Mr_Bad_News> i have it in the tray
[06:07] <Mr_Bad_News> i also copied it over to my harddrive and mounted it
[06:08] <kdubois> how to install java plugin for mozilla firefox?
[06:08] <mjs7231> Mr_Bad_News: Look on the image, Autorun.ini usually calls some EXE on the disk
[06:08] <mjs7231> You want to run the EXE
[06:08] <Mr_Bad_News> there isnt one
[06:08] <Mr_Bad_News> maybe i got a crappy version
[06:08] <bazhang> archman: from the looks of it you can edit the hotspots and how you connect to them
[06:08] <mjs7231> lol, perhaps..
[06:08] <mjs7231> let me check my Rosetta CD
[06:08] <Mr_Bad_News> freaken torrents
[06:08] <leeuw> kdubois: just start Synaptic, do a search for java in all packages, cross it and apply; presto !!
[06:09] <philip_> bazhang, have you tried to configure  ubuntu desktop joining Windows 2003 domain controller?
[06:09] <philip_> Guys, anyone tried to configure  ubuntu 7.10 desktop joining Windows 2003 domain controller?
[06:09] <philip_> im newbie here
[06:09] <archman> bazhang: you mean /etc/wifi-radar.conf ?
[06:09] <leeuw> kdubois: or try open java-page on ww and follow the links ubuntu gives ya
[06:09] <nalpha> oh yha... what is the group that allowed to access Removable Device Like USB?
[06:09] <bazhang> philip_: what is windows domain controller 2003 is that a server or what
[06:10] <bazhang> archman: no via the gui
[06:10] <philip_> bazhang the windows domain controller is 2003 server with ADS configured
[06:10] <archman> bazhang: there's nothing about tj
[06:10] <archman> that
[06:11] <mjs7231> Mr_Bad_News: My CD image had a autorun.inf
[06:11] <bazhang> archman sure there is; look at that link you gave me--you can edit the profiles for each hotspot
[06:11] <Mr_Bad_News> yea i dont have one
[06:11] <mjs7231> Mr_Bad_News: That calls .\Autorun\autorun.exe
[06:12] <archman> bazhang: maybe changing the mode to managed?
[06:12] <Mr_Bad_News> i'll get a new one
[06:12] <mjs7231> Mr_Bad_News: Did the files come with an NFO?
[06:12] <bazhang> archman: how many wifi hotspots does the gui pull up?
[06:12] <Mr_Bad_News> no
[06:13] <archman> bazhang: mybe 10
[06:13] <jayden> I've been having some trouble with the cupsys PDF printer and Firefox 3.0 b5
[06:13] <jayden> When I try to print off of a web page, Firefox crashes.
[06:13] <bazhang> You can drag and drop your preferred networks to arrange the profile priority archman
[06:13] <kelvin911> how to format floppy in linux?
[06:14] <mjs7231> I never heard of a torrent with an NFO. :-P
[06:14] <mjs7231> Mr_Bad_News: Just pay the $15/mo for giganews. :-P
[06:14] <bazhang> Mr_Bad_News: you should contact the makers of rosetta stone for more info
[06:14] <Admin__> hi all
[06:15] <Mr_Bad_News> and tell them i stole their product bazhang ?
[06:15] <bazhang> !piracy | Mr_Bad_News
[06:15] <ubotu> Mr_Bad_News: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[06:15] <AdrianStrays> I need some help. I'm trying install madwifi, and when I attempt to move it to /usr/src it says I don't have enough privileges, can anyone help me?
[06:15] <jayden> I'd recommend going into the terminal and doing a sudo mv, Adrian
[06:15] <Admin__> right now i am on xp, downloded 3 iso of freebsd, can i burn it on single dvd
[06:16] <n-iCe> Where can I get icons themes?
[06:16] <n-iCe> !icons
[06:16] <ubotu> Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (GNOME) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[06:16] <bazhang> Admin__: no those are images; no space will be left--also get ubuntu www.ubuntu.com and get rid of those bsd disks ;]
[06:16] <zcat[1]> n-iCe: gnomelook.org
[06:16] <thoreauputic> n-iCe: try gnome-look.org
[06:16] <mjs7231> Anyone know if they fixed the annoying Applications Menu Editor in Gutsy?
[06:17] <zcat[1]> it has a - in it?
[06:17] <mjs7231> err Hardy
[06:17] <n-iCe> thanks
[06:17] <leeuw> Admin__: sure ya can, will have to mount the ISO's seperately to use them though
[06:17] <AdrianStrays> jayden, can you demonstrate what the command looks like
[06:17] <thoreauputic> zcat[1]: yes
[06:17] <AdrianStrays> Beyond the mv part
[06:17] <bazhang> as data?
[06:17] <zcat[1]> bugger.. ok. Ignore me
[06:17] <leeuw> Admin__: instead of just putting the disk in, I mean
[06:17] <jayden> Adrian: sudo mv <source> <destination>
[06:17] <IkeKrull> anyone know how to get java to play sound in ubuntu hardy?
 i am in Xp right now
 using nero and magic ISO
[06:18] <zcat[1]> haha, no.. gnomelook.org redirects to gnome-look.org :)
[06:18] <thoreauputic> IkeKrull: hardy questions in #ubuntu+1 please
[06:18] <bazhang> leeuw: how is that possible; please clarify
[06:19] <leeuw> Admin__: aha, then itś not advisable; how would you use the ISOś if they were on one DVD ?   are they boot-cdś - probably are; so you couldn't boot from a DVD with three ISO's on it
[06:19] <thoreauputic> zcat[1]: ah so we were both right :)
[06:19] <acx> quick question, i am attempting to install winxp into a VirtualBox but whenever i put the CD in the dialog comes up as if the disc is a blank. i know for a certain that it isnt
[06:19] <theman3> hello
[06:19] <zcat[1]> In windows (with the right software .. powerdvd or something) you can loopback mount ISO's..
 i wanna make one single DVD of them
[06:20] <zcat[1]> good enough for a wubi install .. i tried it
 otherwise i have to burn 3 CD-R
[06:20] <leeuw> Admin__:  with magic ISO you can't put more than one iso on a disc; iso is an image (say a picture) of a disc; you transfer it to a disc with magic iso
[06:20] <theman3> i installed ubuntu 7, and in package manager there are only a few uninstalled packages... shouldnt there be a few hundred?
[06:20] <jayden> zcat: Personally, I feel soo limited when I have to boot into Windows anymore....
[06:20] <AdrianStrays> Jayden, it still says permission denied.
 so there is no way
[06:20] <leeuw> Admin__: you can put the iso's on a dvd as backup with nero, but you can't  boot it
[06:21] <zcat[1]> jayden: I only have one dualboot here, for the kids to play windows games.. and they're recently infected that with spyware so I might just reformat it soon.
 to make single DVD of 3 ISO CD
[06:21] <leeuw> Admin__: not if you want to use them
[06:21] <AdrianStrays>  Jayden: mv /home/adrian/madwifi-0.9.4.tar.gz /usr/src is what I type in, permission denied is what I get
 lol that i did
[06:21] <zcat[1]> they can just learn how to get stuff working in wine :)
[06:21] <jayden> Adrian: you should try "sudo mv"
 i want to install it from DVD
[06:21] <AdrianStrays> Okay
[06:21] <leeuw> Admin__: just make three cd's with magic iso, or use nero with the 'burn image'option
[06:21] <timo1teo> quick question, with my live CD in the button (Fn F5) to switch the laptop screen off and instead project it on my monitor does not work, will that work when i fully install?
[06:21] <thoreauputic> theman3: enable repositories in System-Admin- Software Sources
[06:22] <leeuw> Admin__: why not 3 cd's ?
[06:22] <thoreauputic> theaber: and there are thousands, if that;s what you meant by "uninstalled" packages
[06:22] <AdrianStrays> Jayden: That did it. Thanks for helping me with my silly noob problem/
[06:22] <bazhang> does freebsd have a channel on freenode; that would be the best place to ask Admin__
[06:22] <thoreauputic> theaber: sorry bad tabbibg
[06:22] <leeuw> Admin__: ś cheaper too !
[06:22] <jayden> Adrian: You're welcome. After all, we gotta start somewhere.
 i have to burn 3 CD
[06:23] <leeuw> Admin__:  so what ?
 dont have 3 CD-RW
 all CD-R
[06:23] <leeuw> Admin__:  aha...
[06:23] <AdrianStrays> jayden: Actually, its not over yet.  Whats the extract command?
[06:23] <leeuw> Admin__:  use cd-r ?
[06:24] <bem> admin, you only need first cd for freebsd install
[06:24] <leeuw> Admin__:  or you think is a waste ?
[06:24] <timo1teo> quick question, with my live CD in the button (Fn F5) to switch the laptop screen off and instead project it on my monitor does not work, will that work when i fully install?
[06:24] <bazhang> Admin__: do the rest via net
[06:24] <jayden> Adrian: If you're still using the command line, it should be tar, I think... I haven't done much extracting through the command line.
[06:24] <zcat[1]> is there any way to burn three or four (or six) CD iso's to one DVD with some kind of boot-chooser menu?
[06:24] <thoreauputic> guys, freebsd is kind of off-topic  :)
[06:24] <bem> Admin__, the other 2 arent necessary, although putting em on a single image shouldnt be a problem
 according to me waste
[06:24] <leeuw> Admin__:  are they boot- cd's or cd's to run from windows ?
[06:24] <bazhang> #freebsd perhaps ?
[06:25] <acx> is there a way to get ubuntu to realize that ive inserted a winblowz disc into the cdrom? the main drive is recognizing it as a blank disc while my usb external mounts it properly. is there a way to either fix the main drive to mount properly or maybe get
[06:25] <zcat[1]> 'cos that would actually be wuite handy..
 <bem> they are ISO
[06:25] <zcat[1]> *quite
[06:25] <acx> VirtualBox to use the usb drive?
[06:25] <leeuw> Admin__:  but cost of one dvd= 3 or 4 cd ś (if you buy 25 spindle)
[06:25] <zcat[1]> haha.. where I buy.. 50 DVD's == $18 .. 50 CD's == $18
 <bem> actuallu i am ubuntu lover
[06:26] <leeuw> Admin__: that I get, but I mena, what would they do once they're on the disc; would they boot free-BSD (to install )
[06:26] <jayden> Adrian: I wish you luck with getting madwifi to work. Unfortunately, I have an English essay to finish for class in the morning.
 <bem> i want to give try
[06:26] <bazhang> acx: which vbox? the ose or the other
[06:26] <timo1teo> quick question, with my live CD in the button (Fn F5) to switch the laptop screen off and instead project it on my monitor does not work, will that work when i fully install?
[06:26] <acx> bazhang: vse
[06:26] <zcat[1]> so if I could stick 6 CD iso's onto one DVD and choose what to bbot, that would be awesome
[06:26] <leeuw> Admin__:  or would they just run from windows ?
[06:26] <zcat[1]> excuse my typos...
[06:26] <leeuw> Admin__:  to try
[06:26] <ChaosTheory_> I have awn installed and I'm trying to install the applets.
[06:26] <AdrianStrays> Jayden, no thats not it.
[06:26] <ChaosTheory_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=561810
[06:26] <bazhang> acx that is the non free one?
 <bem> yes :)
[06:26] <ChaosTheory_> I'm getting errors when I follow these instructions.
[06:27] <acx> bazhang: no thats a free one
[06:27] <leeuw> Admin__:  yes what ?
[06:27] <acx> VirtualBox!=VMWare
 <bem> i want to try freeBSD
[06:27] <leeuw> Admin__:  if they are to boot from,
[06:27] <bazhang> acx there is one in the repos ose that does not have the usb iirc and then another outside the repos that does
 <bem> yes
[06:28] <AdrianStrays> Does anyone know the extract command for archive manager?
[06:28] <acx> hmm maybe the source one
[06:28] <bazhang> Admin__: really what does this have to with ubuntu?
[06:28] <leeuw> Admin__:  yes, but how are the cd's to be used t try free-bsd; what does the webpage you loaded from say: should you boot the cd, or should you run it from windoze ?
[06:28] <timo1teo> quick question, with my live CD in the button (Fn F5) to switch the laptop screen off and instead project it on my monitor does not work, will that work when i fully install?
[06:28] <Fatedkiss> can someone help me with a Grub Error: 22 im getting?
[06:28] <zcat[1]> bah, my screen has gone all blurry.. bloody kids with their magnetsI suspect
[06:28] <timo1teo> just looking for a yes or no
 <bem> i found some torrent site one single DVD for BSD
[06:29] <zcat[1]> mmmm.. degauss didn't fix it either
[06:29] <leeuw> Admin__:  hm... how large are the iso's ?  (in Mb or Gb) ?
[06:29] <bazhang> timo1teo: is that a thinkpad? then it might work; otherwise you have to go into monitor/display and set it there in gnome iirc
 Gb
[06:30] <theman3> ok, now i've installed some irc clients and stuff... why can't i find them in "applications" menu?
[06:30] <timo1teo> thank you
 on mininova.org
[06:30] <AdrianStrays> Does anyone know the extract command for archive manager?
[06:30] <bazhang> why is my screen full of bsd?
[06:30] <zcat[1]> BSD?!!
[06:30] <Starnestommy> !ot
[06:30] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:30] <bazhang> the convo in here
[06:30] <ChaosTheory_> What's the command to install avant applets?
[06:30] <zcat[1]> nobody mentioned bsd?
[06:31] <leeuw> Admin__: OK, that means they are DVD-iso's, or in other words, you need a dvd for each, won't fit on cd's (if each iso is more than 700 Mb, say 4 Gb ?
[06:31] <tm24fan> I used to be able to mount and use my NTFS partitions just fine on Ubuntu, but now that I'm using 7.10 I suddenly can't mount either of them.  Any ideas?
[06:31] <bazhang> scroll up and look at Admin__
[06:31] <leeuw> Admin__:  do you have virtual drive with nero ?
[06:32] <acx> bah well the source thing wont work either... is there a way to get my cdrom to recognize the winblowz cd instead of it thinking its a blank?
[06:32] <kindofabuzz> how do i edit groups command line? well edit the groups a user is part of?
[06:32] <AdrianStrays> :( Does anyone body know the extract command for archive manager?
[06:32] <ChaosTheory_> I can't seem to install awn applets. Any help? =| Mostly I'm getting the error that it can't find the package. . .
[06:32] <leeuw> Admin__: suddenly realised; we're off-topic if you're not on ubuntu but xp, and about BSD; makes no sense on ubuntu-channel right ?   best we stop, you google for iso and bsd; all the best !
[06:33] <leeuw> sorry other users, wasn't thinking
 ya sorry for that :)
[06:33] <zcat[1]> reminds me.. I should probably check out a BSD iso and see what it's like, haven't run it for about 5 years now..
[06:34] <leeuw> Admin__: never mind, can happen :-/
 i am also ubuntu GNOME user bye guya
[06:34] <Fatedkiss> anyone know anything reguarding an issue with  Grub Error:22
[06:34] <bazhang> Admin__: I just went to the freebsd channel and they said only need one cd for install
[06:34] <leeuw> Admin__: ok, in that case; go ubuntu, easier too: mount iso's and see whatś on'm, maybe readme about how to use' m ?
[06:35] <leeuw> Admin__: you know how to mount iso in ubuntu ?
[06:35] <bem> baz, i told him that 15m ago before someone suggested (and i agreed) that its not really on-topic here
[06:35] <godfreyhk> Hmm, I need some advice on how to partition my server. I'll be using that as a web server (php/RoR/MySQL/ftp). I've got 512MB RAM, one 80 GB and one 60GB hdd. Any suggestion?
[06:35] <bazhang> Admin__: ##freebsd is the channel for more info
 yes
 let me try bsd channel :)
[06:35] <godfreyhk> I'm install ubuntu server btw
[06:35] <godfreyhk> * installing
[06:35] <leeuw> Admin__: good luck then, take bazhang 's hint, good luck !
[06:36] <dryrot> is there a graphical interface for OpenVPN that actually works ?
[06:36] <shinynew> Hello I am testing 8.04, so this may not be the right channel, but I just lost all recongition of my wireless card, It used to show up on the restricted drivers page and the nm-applet
[06:36] <shinynew> but now i see nothing
[06:36] <nii> anybody clear with how to configure dns and dhcp combined?
[06:36] <bem> this might be mildly off-topic, but does anyone know if proprietary drivers fail to interoperate with vmware? i cant get bridging to work with my wifi, works fine with my eth0 though
[06:36] <shinynew> I think an update caused it, but I just want to know how to fix it
[06:36] <shinynew> how do i get it to recognize my card?
[06:36] <bazhang> shinynew: there is a channle for that
[06:36] <Starnestommy> shinynew: #ubuntu+1 is for 8.04
[06:37] <Parsec300> shinynew, perhaps a broadcom card?
[06:37] <shinynew> Parsec300: I think so i am not sure, I can look it up in a sec
[06:37] <kenboo> what package has manuals for libc?
[06:37] <kenboo> libc-dev?
[06:37] <shinynew> but i am goign to the other channel
[06:38] <godfreyhk> should I be asking this in the server channel instead?
[06:39] <Starnestommy> kenboo: it might be manpages-dev
[06:40] <kenboo> ok, thanks
[06:40] <kenboo> Starnestommy:  bingo. thanks!
[06:41] <bem> be nice if that was in build-essentials
[06:42] <chains> how do i do folder sharing over a network when one of the computers is xp?
[06:43] <kenboo> samba
[06:43] <acke_n> chains smb?
[06:43] <n-iCe> is there any other way to go to the themes applications?
[06:43] <Daisuke_Ido> chains, samba, or you can get creative
[06:43] <n-iCe> maybe a terminal command?
[06:43] <Daisuke_Ido> install SFU on the windows box and use NFS all around
[06:43] <chains> ok, ill try samba, do i just install it on ubuntu?
[06:44] <acke_n> n-ice sudo apt-get install ubuntu-themes?
[06:44] <n-iCe> oh
[06:44] <acke_n> not sure there are a package called ubuntu-themes
[06:44] <n-iCe> acke_n,  I mean to join
[06:44] <n-iCe> I can't find the themes on the menu bar
[06:45] <acke_n> ooh
[06:45] <chains> i am seeing a lot of things when i search for samba
[06:45] <acke_n> its in preferences i think
[06:45] <bazhang> bem what is the host machine? you are trying to share a wifi connection with the guest machine (in VM) and cannot connect?
[06:45] <bem> the host machine is ubuntu i386
[06:46] <bem> cant even vmware-config the interface for bridging
[06:46] <bem> it fails when config exits, and vmware wont start
[06:46] <bem> and yeah, im trying to share in bridging mode my wifi, nat isnt working for me either
[06:47] <bazhang> xp is the guest?
[06:47] <bem> no
[06:47] <bem> but it doesnt matter, because it doesnt get that far
[06:47] <bem> vmware totally fails to start
[06:47] <bem> not fails to power up on guest, but totally fails to start
[06:47] <AlphaOmega> how do you get time for other timezones?
[06:47] <bem> says there's a config error, because the binding to ath0 failed
[06:47] <bazhang> what about launching vmware from terminal what does that report
[06:47] <AlphaOmega> to show up on the desktop?
[06:47] <bem> that reports the config error i mentioned
[06:48] <bem> because vmware-config thinks it can bind to the wifi, but at the end when it goes to enable it, it cant
[06:48] <chains> samba does not see my home pc on the network
[06:48] <bazhang> that is odd; though never used an atheros card--intel card does fine
[06:49] <n-iCe> acke_n,  but I don't see it
[06:49] <n-iCe> :<
[06:49] <bem> ironically, i use the card i use for the broad os support :)
[06:50] <leeuw> AlphaOmega: just wait 20 days for Hardy; has a great new worldtime extension in systemclock on the menubar !
[06:50] <AlphaOmega> 20 days?! ok
[06:50] <AlphaOmega> what about a good desktop control [anel, like superkaramba
[06:50] <AlphaOmega> to show cpu, temp, mem, etc..
[06:51] <leeuw> AlphaOmega: even has weather for all zonez...
[06:51] <AlphaOmega> i use ubuntu weathernow
[06:52] <kelvin911> how to format a floppy that is in a USB floppy drive ????
[06:53] <joe1> hi all
[06:53] <pingu_> hay pingu, I need my nick if you're there. change it quickly please.
[06:53] <prettyricky> where did you get weathernow?
[06:54] <AlphaOmega> no
[06:54] <AlphaOmega> i mean
[06:54] <AlphaOmega> i am using weather
[06:54] <AlphaOmega> right now
[06:54] <n-iCe> how can I install my icons themes??
[06:54] <AlphaOmega> just right click the panel
[06:54] <Slart> pingu_: why not register.. then you don't have to ask
[06:54] <AlphaOmega> add to panel > weather
[06:54] <prettyricky> oh lol
[06:54] <TUplink> hi guys.... im running MPD   i cant get the volume past a wisper im using oss any ideas    i dont have X
[06:54] <AlphaOmega> :)
[06:54] <bazhang> pingu_: just /nick pingu and identify in server window
[06:54] <joe1> icon themes, go to system, preferences, appearance
[06:54] <pingu_> Slart: I am registered, I was being courteous.
[06:54] <AlphaOmega> i want cpu and network usage on the desktoip
[06:55] <joe1> click customize should find it in there
[06:55] <AlphaOmega> anyone know something better than superkaramba?
[06:55] <pingu_> Before I kill him to get my nick back.
[06:55] <joe1> alpha: install conky
[06:55] <Slart> pingu_: ah.. nevermind then =)
[06:55] <AlphaOmega> conky? better than superk?
[06:55] <hikejinx> n-iCe: You can them drag them onto the appearance settings window to install.
[06:55] <joe1> yes much better
[06:55] <AlphaOmega> ok
[06:55] <AlphaOmega> ill try it
[06:55] <joe1> look at screenshots
[06:55] <n-iCe> hikejinx,  in xubuntu doesn't work :<
[06:55] <AlphaOmega> thanks
[06:55] <joe1> a little hard to configure but it's cool
[06:55] <joe1> basically embedded into the desktop
[06:55] <joe1> (not really but almost ;) )
[06:55] <pingu> but thanks for the help anyway
[06:55] <hikejinx> hikejinx: Gotcha, joined to late to know you were in xubuntu.
[06:57] <AlphaOmega> oh yeah
[06:57] <AlphaOmega> i used conky, what did it used to be called?
[06:57] <AlphaOmega> torismo
[06:57] <AlphaOmega> or something
[06:57] <joe1> I forget what it was called, just do sudo apt-get install conky
[06:57] <n-iCe> hikejinx,  any other ideA?
[06:57] <AlphaOmega> no
[06:57] <joe1> then edit the .conkyrc in your home and you'll be good
[06:57] <AlphaOmega> i am using it now
[06:57] <joe1> ohh nice
[06:57] <AlphaOmega> conky is nice
[06:57] <AlphaOmega> i jsut said
[06:57] <AlphaOmega> its torsmo
[06:57] <AlphaOmega> that is thename
[06:57] <AlphaOmega> thats the old project
[06:58] <hikejinx> n-iCe: give me a sec to check, I used to use xubuntu.
[06:58] <AlphaOmega> that sounds worng, wait
[06:58] <n-iCe> hikejinx,  thank you so much I will be thankful
[06:58] <joe1> mine is setup pretty nice, I have weather, both cpu cores, top, network, etc...
[06:58] <n-iCe> I have tried almost everything.
[06:58] <n-iCe> without success
[06:58] <saltedlight> were will be a usb floppy be default? /dev/what?
[06:58] <AlphaOmega> no thats it i think http://suseroot.com/suse-linux-tweaks/torsmo.php
[06:58] <chains> how do i use samba? i seem to have no lucj
[06:58] <joe1> how do you configure samba?
[06:58] <joe1> is that what you want to know
[06:59] <AlphaOmega> sorry
[06:59] <AlphaOmega> this one is better: http://torsmo.sourceforge.net/
[06:59] <joe1> looks very similar ;)
[07:00] <chains> joe1, jsut getting it to work. i installed pyNeighborhood, but i doesnt see my pc
[07:00] <orksnork> Hey, I'm having a problem with an OpenOffice spreadsheet...I've got it set up all the way I want to look, and when i go to print, or Print Preview....all I get is the first cell
[07:01] <joe1> why did you install pyNeighorhood?
[07:01] <orksnork> same when i export it as pdf, etc
[07:01] <joe1> just install samba (sudo apt-get install samba) then alter the config file (hold on just a second)
[07:01] <chains> joe1, was that not good?
[07:01] <orksnork> anyone know why?
[07:01] <joe1> here is for minimum for samba
[07:02] <joe1> do sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[07:02] <joe1> here is the minimum that you can have (it's what I use for my network actually
[07:02] <joe1> [global]workgroup = WKGnetbios name = MYNAME [share1]path = /tmp [share2]path = /my_shared_foldercomment = Some random files
[07:03] <joe1> http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/install.html#id2549213
[07:03] <chains> joe1, it says samba is already installed
[07:03] <v01dad3pt> I got my nvidia drivers installed and glx is enable but glxgears just crashes
[07:03] <Johnson> anybody here thats  use an ipod have anny recommendation, i just got my friends ipod, i got gtkpod but that doesn't know where to find any of my local music and it always seems to crash, banshee always seems to crash what do people in here use
[07:03] <joe1> okay then alter that file, gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[07:03] <v01dad3pt> what could cause thta?
[07:03] <joe1> what ipod did you get?
[07:03] <Johnson> 80 gb i pod video
[07:04] <joe1> what version?
[07:04] <Johnson> i think 5th gen.
[07:04] <Johnson> all the programs seems to take hours to load gtkpod dislpays none of my local files and there is no option to set local path or anythig
[07:04] <sleepster> what's the best mp3 player?
[07:04] <hikejinx> n-iCe:  try Applications > Settings > User Interface Settings > Icon Theme
[07:04] <hikejinx> n-ice I think that is it.
[07:04] <otg> ijhljojoiijioj
[07:05] <orksnork> Hey, I'm having a problem with an OpenOffice spreadsheet...I've got it set up all the way I want to look, and when i go to print, or Print Preview....all I get is the first cell
[07:05] <chains> joe1, what if i already have stuff in my config?
[07:05] <joe1> that's the default stuff, the basic one is in that link I sent (it's like 6 lines and I use it and it works great)
[07:05] <Shado1> всем привет! тут по-русски общаются?
[07:05] <joe1> you can look at that link to see if you need anything else, our network isn't protected so I can get in and read/write with no problem
[07:05] <chains> do i get ride of what i have and replace it?
[07:05] <Shado1> вижу что нет :(
[07:06] <bazhang> !ru | Shado1
[07:06] <ubotu> Shado1: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[07:06] <joe1> if you really want you can save a copy to your home folder just in case
[07:06] <hikejinx> !russian | Shado1
[07:06] <joe1> sudo cp /etc/samba/smb/conf /home/user
[07:06] <softtower> How come in Gnome "search" button does not do anything at all? I am in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gnome 2.20), I press this littel button on Nautilus toolbar whose tooltip says "Locate documents and folders by name or content". It replaces the location bar with a search box, I type "a" or "b" or whatever - nothing ever shows up, even if I type an exact file name of a file in the current directory. It simply does not search!
[07:06] <aolaus> hello, I'm running gutsy and am having trouble with correctly configuring my dual monitor setup
[07:06] <Shado1> bazhang: thanks
[07:07] <aolaus> primary monitor is my laptop, and secondary is a widescreen lcd
[07:07] <bazhang> Shado1: no problem ;]
[07:07] <chains> i know the file, it already contains stuff, do i replace whats in it?
[07:07] <otg> i         dono
[07:07] <aolaus> primary works fine
[07:07] <otg> fuck
[07:07] <joe1> aoalaus: what's problem?
[07:07] <joe1> please don't push enter after each two words ;)
[07:07] <bazhang> language otg
[07:07] <aolaus> but secondary does not have the correct resolution of 1440 x 900
[07:07] <otg> i  dono
[07:07] <joe1> what video card?
[07:07] <aolaus> intel 945gm
[07:07] <orksnork> Ok I have another problem
[07:07] <Johnson> anyone have any ideas about the the ipod? or should I just use windows
[07:07] <joe1> sorry I don't get intel cards ;) nvidia set up is pretty straight forward
[07:07] <aolaus> durn
[07:07] <ec> HAI GAISE
[07:08] <orksnork> Does anyone want to explain why no one ever wants to help me out in here?
[07:08] <joe1> Johnson: what are you using to transfer music?
[07:08] <aolaus> have you fooled around with 915resolution?
[07:08] <joe1> no I use nvidia-settings and directly configure xorg
[07:08] <aolaus> the forums have also said something about editing the xorg.conf file
[07:08] <Johnson> joel, i am trying to get to that point i have gtkpod i have banshee
[07:08] <ec> can be it pleese brub tiem nao?
[07:08] <bazhang> Johnson: you need the latest libgpod deb or wait 16 days for ubuntu next release
[07:08] <aolaus> but I have no idea how to go about it for my particular configuration
[07:08] <chains> joe1, i went to the file you want me to edit, do i remove whats alreay there, or do i tack this onto the end?
[07:08] <aolaus> hardy's coming out in 16 days?
[07:08] <bazhang> yes
[07:08] <Johnson> 16 days sounds good
[07:08] <monkeybritches> Maybe some of us don't know how to help you yet
[07:09] <joe1> yes you delete it all and then add those five lines or whatever, configure it to your network and you should be okay
[07:09] <ec> so i herd u liek jewbuntu
[07:09] <Johnson> bazhang, exactly what updates are coming out as far as ipod is concerned
[07:09] <otg> sefsefsefsefsefsefsefsef
[07:09] <ec> which means u liek jews
[07:09] <ec> and jewbacca
[07:09] <softtower> How come in Gnome "search" button does not do anything at all? I am in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gnome 2.20), I press this littel button on Nautilus toolbar whose tooltip says "Locate documents and folders by name or content". It replaces the location bar with a search box, I type "a" or "b" or whatever - nothing ever shows up, even if I type an exact file name of a file in the current directory. It simply does not search!
[07:09] <aolaus> lol great, another distro that will break my current setup
[07:09] <joe1> ec please leave, you are not helping anyone and not being pleasant like open source people should be
[07:10] <bazhang> Johnson: the libgpod is the one that stops ipod from showing no files
[07:10] <bazhang> ec stop now
[07:10] <jpilot> hello
[07:10] <ec> lawl sorry, friend is here.
[07:10] <ec> 4chan troll
[07:10] <Johnson> i c. i don't even think thats my problem
[07:10] <chains> joe1, so if it worked, i should see the pc if i go to network?
[07:10] <Johnson> getting one of those ipods problems is the problem
[07:10] <bazhang> Johnson: what do you use to connect
[07:11] <joe1> yeah
[07:11] <joe1> but you might need to log out and log back in
[07:11] <chains> ug, its not there.
[07:11] <joe1> did you log out and log back in?
[07:12] <adrian00> hello
[07:12] <joe1> and did you change workgroup to the name of yours?
[07:12] <joe1> like MSHOME or whatever
[07:12] <chains> yeah. mshome was always there
[07:12] <adrian00> can anybody read this?"
[07:12] <joe1> not in the thing that I sent it wasn't ;)
[07:13] <bazhang> adrian00: yes
[07:13] <mitchell> irc.freenode.net
[07:13] <chains> where was the config again
[07:13] <joe1> http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/install.html#id2549213
[07:13] <joe1> search for Example 1.1
[07:13] <chains> i mean the file
[07:14] <Johnson_> im sorry banshee froze my computer
[07:14] <joe1> sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf (you can just push up in terminal to see the last commands)
[07:14] <Johnson_> im using banshee and gtkpod
[07:14] <joe1> try amarok
[07:14] <eric84> hello all
[07:14] <Johnson_> *sigh alright
[07:14] <chains> joe1, i would, but its not there for some reason.
[07:14] <bazhang> Johnson_: the libgpod should sort that
[07:14] <joe1> the file isn't there at all? or it wasn't when you pushed up?
[07:16] <chains> when i pushed up
[07:16] <joe1> oh yeah sometimes it doesn't go in there not sure why
[07:16] <chains> ok, i changed the work group, change anything else?
[07:16] <joe1> but are you making progress with it?
[07:16] <Johnson_> bazhang, so libgpod is something i should download or it comes out in 16 days with the new ubuntu release?
[07:16] <joe1> netbios just to your name or whatever (I use Ubuntu for my netbios name)
[07:16] <joe1> you can also change the paths if you want anything of yours to be shared on the network
[07:17] <bazhang> Johnson_: there is a deb you can grab now for gutsy or just wait and get in next release
[07:17] <gg> hi,there
[07:17] <Johnson_> cool i just got the libgpod-dev
[07:18] <bazhang> Johnson_: what version; that is the key point
[07:18] <chains> awesome, i see it now, thanks man
[07:18] <joe1> sure thing, glad it worked
[07:18] <n-iCe> how can I do an automatically login, without ask users and pass?
[07:18] <Johnson_> 0.5.22
[07:18] <chains> its asking for a password, but my pc has no pass
[07:19] <eric84> i've been unable to get my wireless running, i have the ssid, password, dhcp auto, etc set up correctly, sudo ifup wifi0 reports network is down... any suggestions please?
[07:19] <softtower> How come in Gnome "search" button does not do anything at all? I am in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gnome 2.20), I press this littel button on Nautilus toolbar whose tooltip says "Locate documents and folders by name or content". It replaces the location bar with a search box, I type "a" or "b" or whatever - nothing ever shows up, even if I type an exact file name of a file in the current directory. It simply does not search!
[07:19] <joe1> it's asking for a password for your computer or another one you are trying to access?
[07:19] <chains> my computer.
[07:19] <bazhang> Johnson_: you need the 0.6.0 or better
[07:20] <joe1> why would you try to access your own computer with the network?
[07:20] <bazhang> eric84: what card
[07:20] <v01dad3pt> please help I get this error v01dad3pt@v01dad3pt-desktop:~$ glxgears Aborted (core dumped)
[07:20] <chains> so i can get to my files on my pc that arnt on my laptop
[07:21] <joe1> ohh, you sure that the shared folder from pc is configured right?
[07:21] <eric84> bazhang: it's a d-link, reported as intersil corporation prism 2.5 wavelan chipset
[07:21] <chains> oh, duh, i never made that drive shareable. lol. i need to go learn how to do that.
[07:21] <joe1> lol is it a ubuntu machine?
[07:21] <unop_> Johnson, if you add this line to your sources.list, you can get libgpod3 (0.6.0.3).  deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ipod-touch/ubuntu gutsy main
[07:21] <chains> xp pro
[07:21] <bazhang> eric84: does ifconfig show two entries or three
[07:22] <joe1> haha can't help you there.....
[07:22] <eric84> two, eth0 and lo
[07:22] <jim> oh how nicely we will thrive if he makes it a sharable drive...
[07:22] <chains> lol, thats for the help man.
[07:22] <chains> i got to go now, before i pass out with a full bladeder
[07:22] <bazhang> unop_: awesome link thanks
[07:22] <n-iCe> how can I do an automatically login, without ask users and pass?
[07:23] <v01dad3pt> please help I am using the correct video drivers but nothing 3d works
[07:23] <r9k> hai guise
[07:23] <joe1> ni-ce: http://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/linux_beginner_books/unofficial_ubuntu_starter_guide/index_066.html
[07:23] <bazhang> eric84: any drivers installed for that card?
[07:23] <unop_> bazhang, i'm surprised you didn't know :P the PPA is full of new stuff
[07:23] <r9k> nothing I say is an exact repost
[07:23] <r9k> but I heard you guys like jewbuntu
[07:24] <bazhang> unop_: I have to check that out; much appreciated thanks!
[07:24] <r9k> and by association, the jews
[07:24] <joe1> r9k please don't use terms like that, leave if you want to be prejudice
[07:24] <r9k> I mean, that's cool and all
[07:24] <joe1> or I'll have you booted which is just as easy I suppose
[07:24] <bazhang> !ops | r9k
[07:24] <ubotu> r9k: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpatrick or jussi01!
[07:24] <jim> r9k: wow! you made a funny pun!
[07:24] <leeuw> r9k , yes we like the jewws, we are the jews, we'll get you; get lost !
[07:24] <eric84> bazhang: according to device manager, hostap_pci is installed
[07:25] <r9k> sorry about that guys
[07:25] <bazhang> eric84: do you have the bus ID on that?
[07:25] <joe1> ni-ce you figure out auto login?
[07:25] <r9k> I didn't know if there were any channers here
[07:25] <eric84> bazhang: as in info.bus? that's reported type: string and value: pci
[07:25] <bazhang> r9k: dont do that again--that is really wrong
[07:25] <r9k> also, ubuntu messed with my startup with windows
[07:25] <jim> r9k: so you were trying to find out?
[07:26] <bazhang> how is that behaviour not a ban?
[07:26] <r9k> I was wondering if reinstalling windows from my cd would remove grub
[07:26] <sleepster> yes
[07:26] <unop__> did i sense some anti-semitism from r9k ?
[07:26] <r9k> no, not antisemitism
[07:27] <jim> and he's acting all nice now that he knows he can get booted
[07:27] <joe1> we can drop it, just don't do it again
[07:27] <r9k> my ciusin is jewish
[07:27] <jussi01> Lets move on shall we?
[07:27] <bazhang> I'm really thinking of leaving this channel for good
[07:27] <joe1> agreed
[07:27] <kevikevtmc> isn't there a way to remove grub and re-install windows NTLDR on the MBR?
[07:27] <r9k> so reinstalling windows should remove groub (no, I will not remove system32)
[07:27] <sleepster> kevikevtmc: just install windows.. it will do it for you
[07:27] <jussi01> !grub | r9k
[07:27] <ubotu> r9k: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:27] <eric84> bazhang: did you see my last reply?
[07:27] <jussi01> r9k: just follow the guide there
[07:27] <n-iCe> will I find limewire on synaptic??
[07:28] <sleepster> r9k: yes it will.. but it may render your machine unbootable
[07:28] <kevikevtmc> What about the repair option
[07:28] <r9k> unbootable?
[07:28] <bazhang> sorry eric84 I have to cool off for a second
[07:28] <sleepster> r9k I was just kidding
[07:28] <eric84> no problem man, i hear ya
[07:28] <sleepster> r9k: sorry.. I know that wasn't too funny
[07:28] <unop__> he's gone!
[07:28] <bullgard4> What does 'fg' for in the 'fgconsole' command?
[07:29] <Djoe1> Hi, I am connected to remote pc via ssh. Can I start a script there, that keeps running even if I shut down my pc ? And log back in later to see the (generated) result files...
[07:29] <sleepster> bullgard4: background
[07:29] <bullgard4> sleepster: Thank you.
[07:29] <jim> Djoe1: look into screen
[07:29] <sleepster> bullgard4: wait I was kidding
[07:29] <unop__> bullgard4, $ whatis fgconsole: fgconsole (1)        - print the number of the active VT.
[07:29] <bullgard4> sleepster: I noticed that.
[07:30] <Adantan_Alex> ok
[07:30] <bobbo85> hi all, i can't seem to get anything to record the music that I'm playing on a website.  It's not a webradio station, it's just an individual song that I can play from a website but can't download.  any ideas?
[07:30] <bullgard4> unop__: Before I posted here, I already read man fgconsole.
[07:30] <kevikevtmc> Lnx Rox my s0x
[07:31] <joe1> what line would I want in fstab for full permission to an external (/dev/sdb5) mounted to /media/disk
[07:31] <clicky> hello
[07:31] <Adantan_Alex> hi
[07:31] <joe1> hey clicky
[07:31] <bullgard4> sleepster: Your answer brought me to what I wanted to know: fg - 'foreground'
[07:31] <clicky> what do i use when creating web pages?
[07:31] <Adantan_Alex> how do i open .exe files?
[07:31] <joe1> you cabextract it
[07:31] <nickrud> joe1 ntfs/vfat or ext3?
[07:31] <kevikevtmc> ta ta
[07:31] <joe1> vfat
[07:31] <jussi01> !info streamripper | bobbo85
[07:31] <ubotu> bobbo85: streamripper (source: streamripper): download online streams into audio files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.62.2-2 (gutsy), package size 72 kB, installed size 192 kB
[07:31] <unop__> Adantan_Alex, depends on the .exe file in question -- usually you use !wine to execute them
[07:32] <clicky> i mean in windows i use notepad,is there anything similar in ubuntu?
[07:32] <Adantan_Alex> ok thanks man
[07:32] <Adantan_Alex> !wine
[07:32] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[07:32] <jussi01> clicky: gedit
[07:32] <Adantan_Alex> yeah
[07:32] <Adantan_Alex> installing a game thanks man
[07:32] <jim> nano, emacs, gedit, kate, vi, vim, the list goes on and on
[07:32] <unop__> clicky, there are quite a few editors (an understatement) available for unix.
[07:32] <holycow> hey jim
[07:32] <jim> heya rob
[07:33] <bobbo85> thanks jussi01 and ubotu I have already installed streamripper, but it asks me for a radio station URL - how do I find out what the radio station URL for http://www.last.fm/music/Medeski%2C+Martin+and+Wood/_/Where's+the+Music is?
[07:33] <n-iCe> will I find limewire on synaptic??
[07:33] <nickrud> joe1 if you have an    /dev/sdb5 /media/disk vfat utf8umask=000 0  1
[07:33] <clicky> ok ill just look for it then..thanks
[07:33] <sleepster> bullgard4: :)
[07:33] <unop__> !frostwire | n-iCe
[07:33] <ubotu> n-iCe: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[07:33] <jim> hmm, an MMW fan... you might also like gary willis
[07:33] <nickrud> joe1 erm, ignore 'if you have an' ;)
[07:33] <joe1> I'll try it, thanks!
[07:33] <sleepster> bullgard4: fg and bg are popular acronyms in linux
[07:34] <jim> and mediski scofield martin and wood
[07:34] <unop__> !limewire | n-iCe
[07:34] <ubotu> n-iCe: limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install /msg ubotu java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider /msg ubotu FrostWire as an alternative.
[07:34] <nickrud> joe1 typp:  utf8,umask=000 missed a comma
[07:34] <joe1> I don't think that will work but I'll try
[07:34] <joe1> can you give me the full line I should use
[07:34] <bullgard4> sleepster: Yes, I have almost forgotten that.
[07:34] <joe1> I've tried like ten things and nothing works the way I want it to
[07:34] <joe1> :(
[07:35] <bobbo85> thanks jim
[07:35] <nickrud> joe1     /dev/sdb5 /media/disk vfat utf8,umask=000 0  1  <--- the umask is the key, 000 gives everyone read/write/execute
[07:35] <jim> joe1: it might be helpful if you tell him what went wrong with each of the 10 things you tried
[07:35] <joe1> yeah that doesn't work I don't think, I'm not sure why (I actually posted a bug in Hardy)
[07:35] <joe1> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/213537 there are the things I've tried
[07:35] <nickrud> joe1 using it myself
[07:36] <joe1> (exaggerated 10 times ;) ) but still the last issue is the weirdest
[07:36] <bobbo85> Is there any way to just record whatever sound is playing?  I assumed sound recorder would work, but unfortunately it doesn't.
[07:36] <Handra_18> tgrt
[07:37] <jim> aoei
[07:37] <gg> jim,
[07:37] <unop__> joe1, are both the partitions on this disk formatted as VFAT?
[07:37] <eric84> bazhang: doin alright?
[07:37] <nickrud> joe1 yes, very strange that you see that. Try giving the vfat a label, it will automount with that name on the desktop
[07:38] <joe1> yes both are vfat and they both worked flawlessly in Gutsy
[07:38] <nickrud> joe1 or at least, here it does
[07:38] <nickrud> joe1 but anyway, #ubuntu+1 is handling hardy questions until release,  /j #ubuntu+1
[07:38] <AliRezaTaleghani> hello room,  is their any way to make "wget" command , work like "Download managers"  i am asking about mupltiple download conections! simuteniusly
[07:38] <gg> jim, i see you in debian,what does xrandr mean?
[07:39]  * jim notes two statements... connected somehow... what could it be?
[07:39] <Matt_______> I can't run gnome v.v
[07:39] <Matt_______> it keeps on saying gnome settings daemon has failed to start
[07:39] <AliRezaTaleghani> no idea?
[07:39] <AliRezaTaleghani> hello room,  is their any way to make "wget" command , work like "Download managers"  i am asking about mupltiple download conections! simuteniusly
[07:39] <joe1> yeah I didn't mean to bring up Ubuntu Hardy but I wanted to ask the fstab question ;)
[07:39] <nickrud> jim must mean you're knowledgeable ;)
[07:40] <nickrud> AliRezaTaleghani no
[07:40] <jim> used to know what xrandr was
[07:40] <nickrud> used to query/set monitor stuff
[07:40] <AliRezaTaleghani> nickrud: u mean their is no way?
[07:40] <unop> AliRezaTaleghani,   maybe this?  for i in link1 link2 link3 link4; do wget -q $i & done
[07:41] <gg> unop, how to configre my graphic card via the cmd?thx
[07:41] <holycow> !xrandr
[07:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xrandr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:41] <holycow> !randr
[07:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about randr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:41] <unop> !xres | gg
[07:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xres - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:41] <nickrud> unop he wants to have multiple connections to the same file
[07:41] <cromag_> !fishing
[07:41] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[07:41] <AliRezaTaleghani> unop: no, cos i have just one link for downlaod, but like to make "wget" to work like DM'es for that one, but tnx for u answer
[07:41] <nickrud> !info xrandr
[07:41] <ubotu> xrandr (source: xrandr): X Rotation, Reflection and Resize utility. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.2.2-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 23 kB, installed size 84 kB
[07:41] <jim> !camping
[07:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about camping - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:41] <bobbo85> ubotu any help on recording a specific song?
[07:42] <bazhang> eric84: it seems from the forums that ndiswrapper is the best for that card; can you get hold of the windows drivers?
[07:42] <gg> lol
[07:42] <unop> !fixres | gg
[07:42] <nickrud> lurking!
[07:42] <ubotu> gg: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:42] <gg> k
[07:42] <unop> AliRezaTaleghani, i see, i don't think wget has that capability
[07:42] <hollow_> aloha people
[07:42] <AliRezaTaleghani> unop: yep, it seems u are right :)
[07:43] <hollow_> anyone here hse broadcom wireless?
[07:43] <jim> all I know about fishing... if you give a man a fish, he eats for a day... if you teach a man to fish, he gets drunk on the boat all day...
[07:43] <hollow_> use*
[07:43] <hollow_> lol
[07:43] <holycow> jim heh
[07:43] <nickrud> jim you be a bass fisherman
[07:43] <jim> s/ fisherman/ist/
[07:44] <AliRezaTaleghani> jim: :P we are wonderfull :D
[07:44] <nickrud> ah, you know about drinking
[07:44] <bobbo85> hah i just got a message from someone like "sorry i'm just a bot, please don't think i'm intelligent"
[07:44]  * nickrud quits offtopic
[07:44] <hollow_> anyone here know how i can maby fix this?                            eth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:off/any  Nickname:"Broadcom 4318"
[07:44] <hollow_>           Mode:Managed  Frequency=2.484 GHz  Access Point: Invalid
[07:44] <hollow_>           Bit Rate=11 Mb/s   Tx-Power=18 dBm
[07:44] <hollow_>           RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[07:44] <hollow_>           Encryption key:off
[07:44] <hollow_>           Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
[07:44] <FloodBot3> hollow_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:44] <hollow_>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[07:44] <nickrud> !aboutme | bobbo85
[07:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aboutme - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:44] <n-iCe> is there any winamp clone on ubuntu?
[07:44] <n-iCe> or any similar player?
[07:45] <joe1> xmms
[07:45] <joe1> for winamp type functionality
[07:45] <nickrud> !ubotu | bobbo85
[07:45] <ubotu> bobbo85: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:45] <unop> !winamp
[07:45] <ubotu> winamp is a windows music player. On Ubuntu you can use beep-media-player or xmms as alternative.
[07:45] <hollow_> yea there is
[07:45] <hollow_> yuppp
[07:45] <n-iCe> joe1,  which one do you use?
[07:45] <bobbo85> !aboutme | bobbo85
[07:45] <unop> !players | n-iCe
[07:45] <ubotu> n-iCe: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[07:45] <Adantan_Alex> hmmmm
[07:46] <nickrud> !msgthebot | bobbo85 (he has lots to teach ;)
[07:46] <ubotu> bobbo85 (he has lots to teach ;): Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[07:46] <hollow_> broadcom 4318 ?
[07:46] <Adantan_Alex> hey ^^
[07:50] <joe1> how do I change the default vlc skin, every time I reboot it goes back to the original one
[07:50] <bullgard4> unop: "if [ x$USE_DPMS = "xtrue" ]; then vbetool dpms off fi" is an actual line of a bash script. In what language is written? 'bash language'?
[07:50] <thoreauputic> bullgard4: yes
[07:51] <unop> bullgard4, that is posix complaint shell scripting .. bash can process it  as can sh
[07:51] <Flannel> thoreauputic: either "bash" or "shell script" (bash has some extensions)
[07:51] <Flannel> er, bullgard4
[07:51] <leeuw> bye bye
[07:51] <thoreauputic> Flannel: correct :)
[07:51] <Flannel> thoreauputic: yay!  do I get a gold star?
[07:52] <thoreauputic> Flannel: at my primary school we got elephant stamps - a bit worrying really ;)
[07:52] <jim> if you do throw it out... goldstar monitors share many points with packard bell...
[07:52] <jim> z?
[07:53] <nickrud> oh, I really wish I'd come back in after that bad joke had rolled of my screen ;(
[07:53] <AliRezaTaleghani> did amybody work on OpenGL programming, is it possible to use it with python?
[07:54] <nickrud> AliRezaTaleghani yes, there's gl bindings in python-opengl
[07:54] <joe1> yeah you can use opengl and python
[07:54] <eric84> i've tried my best to get wireless running with the ubuntu forums but can't seem to get it... anyone mind running through a diagnosis with me?
[07:54] <Ububegin> what is the command to find the number of files in a direcotyr
[07:55] <pclynch> how do i log out and go back to the log in screen through the terminal?
[07:55] <AliRezaTaleghani> nickrud: do u known any froum or manual, for me to learn how ro work with "python-opengl" lib?
[07:55] <matt_________> I'm unable to run gnome, anybody have any ideas?
[07:55] <tenchi21> hi
[07:55] <eric84> hey
[07:55] <thoreauputic> matt__: maybe Gnome has a problem with too many underscores ;p
[07:56] <matt_________> lol
[07:56] <nickrud> AliRezaTaleghani python-opengl-doc , another package ;)
[07:56] <soldats> pclynch: maybe sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[07:56] <AliRezaTaleghani> matt_________: "$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[07:56] <AliRezaTaleghani> "
[07:56] <AliRezaTaleghani> nickrud: :P tnx
[07:56] <matt_________> i'll try it thanks
[07:56] <AliRezaTaleghani> ;)
[07:56] <AliRezaTaleghani> matt_________: yw
[07:56] <Ububegin> C'mon guys , try to get easy to type nicks.... :S
[07:57] <jim> matt_________: heya, I have some problems with my diet, people, figuring out something, and eating mayonaise ice cream... any ideas?
[07:57]  * amidaniel teaches Ububegin about tab-completion
[07:57] <bazhang> use tab completion Ububegin
[07:58] <soldats> lulz
[07:58] <matt_____> it still can't run ubuntu, but at least I have a better resolution now
[07:58] <matt_____> i mean it can't run gnome
[07:58] <jim> why?
[07:58] <matt_____> I have no idea
[07:58] <Ububegin> bazhang: U mean chatzilla has tab completion ... O_O
[07:58] <bazhang> matt_____: this is ubuntu or ubuntu based
[07:58] <nickrud> matt_____   sudo adduser testuser, try logging in with another user to see if it's system or user config issues
[07:59] <eric84> bazhang: sorry to keep bothering you, do you have a minute or two?
[07:59] <bazhang> not sure Ububegin never used it sorry
[07:59] <thoreauputic> Ububegin: if not, get a decent IRC client :)
[07:59] <nickrud> Ububegin ewww
[07:59] <romme> what font would you recommend to use for the interface?
[07:59] <bazhang> eric84: it seems that ndiswrapper is the best bet for that card; do you have the windows drivers
[07:59] <matt______> sorry I accidently disconnected, what did you suggest?
[07:59] <jim> finding out why
[07:59] <nickrud> matt_____   sudo adduser testuser, try logging in with another user to see if it's system or user config issues
[08:00] <Ububegin> sorry guys, I use chatzilla... Which IRC client for ubuntu comes with tab completion
[08:00] <tenchi21> how do I enable stereo sound for my desktop speakers? all i get is the right channel working (nforce)
[08:00] <bazhang> matt______: this is ubuntu or ubuntu based
[08:00] <bobbo85> Can anyone help me record a song that's got a "preview" online?
[08:00] <thoreauputic> matt______: seriously man, that many underscores gets kind of annoying even with tab comletion
[08:00] <eric84> bazhang: probably in a dusty box somewhere, should i dl ndiswrapper and then copy it over to the ubuntu machine?
[08:00] <bazhang> Ububegin: xchat and others
[08:00] <Slart> Ububegin: xchat, irssi.. almost all I suppose
[08:00] <joe1> tenchi21: try sudo apt-get install alsamixergui
[08:01] <bazhang> eric84: that seems to be the best choice at this point; lots of bugs in launchpad and gutsy with that card--many of them closed unresolved
[08:01] <AliRezaTaleghani> what should i add to my "/etc/sudoers" , for making ing my "shayne" user work with "sudo" command  without need of password intering???
[08:01] <soldats> tenchi21: run "alsamixer" and un mute everything sometimes the stereo gets muted
[08:01] <AliRezaTaleghani> is this enough "shayne ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL"???
[08:01] <eric84> bazhang: thanks for your help... any recommendations on a cheap new card that would work well? ;)
[08:01] <gluer> any way to set the bottom status bar to the left or right and make it smaller width?
[08:02] <bazhang> eric84: this is for a desktop or a laptop
[08:02] <eric84> desktop, an oooold one
[08:02] <Matth> yeah i'm using a different user but that didn't help
[08:02] <jim> matthL
[08:02] <thoreauputic> AliRezaTaleghani: just do sudo adduser <foo> admin
[08:02] <jim> did it create a new profile for that user?
[08:02] <bazhang> eric84: atheros perhaps but avoid broadcom if at all possible
[08:02] <Ububegin> Anyway for all you chatzilliacs, you can enable "auto completion" by putting a */d* , before you type.. Cheers
[08:03] <thoreauputic> AliRezaTaleghani: assuming that you have a standard install...
[08:03] <eric84> bazhang: will do, thanks again
[08:03] <gaten> im having trouble opening a .wml file. wapua won't open the file I've got, any alternatives?
[08:03] <AliRezaTaleghani> thoreauputic: :) nice, i will test it
[08:03] <Matth> I"m not sure, I used your command
[08:03] <thoreauputic> AliRezaTaleghani: make sur ethe user logs out / in to make it stick
[08:03] <jim> irc autocompletion ought to work like bash autocompletion
[08:04] <AliRezaTaleghani> thoreauputic: but the "shayne" user exist now!
[08:04] <nickrud> Matth when you tried logging in as that user, exactly what happened?
[08:04] <AliRezaTaleghani> thoreauputic: is it important?
[08:04] <Matth> same exact thing
[08:04] <thoreauputic> AliRezaTaleghani: that's OK - just get shayne to log out and in after you add him to the group
[08:04] <nickrud> which was? (for those of us who came in late)
[08:04] <Matth> I got an error saying cannot start gnome settings daemon
[08:04] <Ububegin> jim: I agree with you, but i find the current "auto completion" crappy....
[08:04] <AliRezaTaleghani> thoreauputic: huum, tnx
[08:05] <thoreauputic> AliRezaTaleghani: group changes take effect on next login
[08:05] <gg> jim, irc is a shell,lol
[08:05] <Adantan_Alex> how do i put ubuntu on a computer with xubuntu?
[08:05] <jim> a very empty, powerless shell
[08:05] <tenchi21> soldats, after i instal that and then open it using the apps menu i get a white box
[08:05] <AliRezaTaleghani> thoreauputic: yep , i get what u mean :) thanks
[08:05] <Adantan_Alex> like test if it works
[08:05] <thoreauputic> Adantan_Alex: sudoa ptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[08:05] <nickrud> Matth I've seen people come here with that error, but I don't know the cause, sorry
[08:05] <Adantan_Alex> what if ubuntu doesnt work? what do i do?
[08:06] <thoreauputic> Adantan_Alex: aorry sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[08:06] <thoreauputic> Adantan_Alex: it probably will :)
[08:06] <Adantan_Alex> yes but if it doesnt?
[08:06] <Slart> Adantan_Alex: install something else?
[08:06] <jim> teach it a trade... get it a job... pay it minimum wage... beat it... kick it... make it write bad checks...
[08:06] <thoreauputic> Adantan_Alex: umm... it's just gnome + extras
[08:06] <Adantan_Alex> and im dual booting windows and ubuntu
[08:06] <thoreauputic> Adantan_Alex: just do it
[08:07] <thoreauputic> Adantan_Alex: you choose the gnome session before login when it's installed
[08:07] <thoreauputic> Adantan_Alex: the dual boot has nothing to do with it :)
[08:07] <Adantan_Alex> so if i install it the next time i load my computer on the boot loader it will show windows, ubuntu and xubuntu? o0
[08:07] <bazhang> they give ops with fruit loops these days?
[08:08] <jim> are you saying it doesn't boot?
[08:08] <AliRezaTaleghani> thoreauputic: "The user `shayne' is already a member of `admin'."   this was the out put, as i told the 'shayne' use exist , and as u told, it's a member of "admin" group,   maybe i asked my question wrong!
[08:08] <AliRezaTaleghani> i want to remove the need of passeord intering, when i use "sudo" for a command, ! ;)
[08:08] <jim> oopsloops!
[08:08] <thoreauputic> Adantan_Alex: no - grub show swin and Ubu - thelogin options show xubuntu or ubuntu
[08:08] <Flannel> AliRezaTaleghani: Why do you need to do that?
[08:08] <Adantan_Alex> wow thanks
[08:08] <AliRezaTaleghani> Flannel: cos, i use sudo more :)
[08:08] <tenchi21> I installed alsmamixergui and that didn't work for getting stereo sound working
[08:08] <Adantan_Alex> and if i chose can i un install ubuntu at 1 stage?
[08:08] <thoreauputic> Adantan_Alex: adding ubuntu-desktop doesn't chnagethe underlying operating system
[08:09] <AliRezaTaleghani> i know their is a way with editing the "etc/sudoer" file, but i can't remmber that
[08:09] <Adantan_Alex> yes but can i chose to un install ubuntu at 1 stage?
[08:09] <thoreauputic> Adantan_Alex: if you use aptitude, yes - you would do  sudo aptitude purge ubuntu-desktop
[08:09] <Adantan_Alex> and that will get rid of ubuntu?
[08:09] <pantsd_> I filed my first bug on launchpad :)
[08:10] <thoreauputic> Adantan_Alex: I think you ar econfused
[08:10] <Adantan_Alex> ....
[08:10] <pantsd_> Do you think there is anymore information I should attach to it ? [ https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ghc6/+bug/213775 ]
[08:10] <thoreauputic> Adantan_Alex: ubuntu-desktop is  a desktop like xfce in xubuntu
[08:10] <jim> Adantan_Alex: what means .....?
[08:10] <joe1> gluer: right click the panel click properties and uncheck expand
[08:10] <Adantan_Alex> ah so its like installing a game?
[08:10] <thoreauputic> Adantan_Alex: that is, it's just a collection of apps :)
[08:10] <Adantan_Alex> awsome ty
[08:11] <Adantan_Alex> so sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[08:11] <thoreauputic> Adantan_Alex: it's like installing any complex set of apps yes
[08:11] <joe1> any way to "purge" system of out dated stuff (my partition is quickly getting crammed)
[08:11] <Adantan_Alex> yeah i just installed wine
[08:11] <Adantan_Alex> so yeah its ok
[08:11] <Adantan_Alex> thanks
[08:11] <thoreauputic> Adantan_Alex: NO - sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[08:11] <bullgard4> unop, thoreauputic, Flannel: Thank you for explaining.
[08:11] <Adantan_Alex> oh yeah soz
[08:11] <thoreauputic> bullgard4: np :)
[08:12] <joe1> what is this ubuntu-desktop install?
[08:12] <thoreauputic> Adantan_Alex: the advantage of using aptitude in this case is that if you want to remove ubuntu-desktop later aptitude will also uninstall the dependencies
[08:12] <Adantan_Alex> ok thanks
[08:13] <Flannel> AliRezaTaleghani: you shouldn't remove the password prompt, just enter your password.  Security is a wonderful thing, and once you get through a week or two, you'll use sudo less and eventually almost not at all (and if you aren't, you may be doing something wrong)
[08:13] <AliRezaTaleghani> :D i found that way! if anybody like to do that, this is the way
[08:13] <AliRezaTaleghani> add the following line to "/etc/sudoers"
[08:13] <AliRezaTaleghani> %<your-user-name> ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL
[08:13] <thoreauputic> joel it's the way Ubuntu knows what to install for a full desktop - it's a "metapackage"
[08:13] <AliRezaTaleghani> Flannel: ;) i do that
[08:13] <Adantan_Alex> oh 1 more thing
[08:13] <joe1> ohh interesting
[08:13] <Adantan_Alex> nm
[08:14] <Adantan_Alex> thanks
[08:14] <Flannel> AliRezaTaleghani: We know how, its not a good practice.
[08:14] <AliRezaTaleghani> Flannel: but, i use "sudo" more that 100 times in a day, if i use it less :D
[08:15] <AliRezaTaleghani> Flannel: i know, what u mean about scurity, but this is my home PC , by the way, tnx for ur help :*
[08:15] <Flannel> AliRezaTaleghani: You're probably doing somethign wrong then.  And you should probably go outside more.  Using the computer for 17 hours every day isn't healthy.
[08:15] <joe1> lol yeah 17 hours is pushing mentally insane
[08:15] <Flannel> AliRezaTaleghani: Sudo stores the password for 10 minutes, you know that right?  What are you using sudo for 100 times every day?
[08:15] <Adantan_Alex> lol?
[08:15] <AliRezaTaleghani> Flannel: yep, :'(, a bit more, aroung 19 - 20 hour in a day
[08:16] <joe1> you need a g/f or b/f
[08:16] <joe1> (sorry low blow)
[08:16] <Flannel> AliRezaTaleghani: What are you using sudo with 100 times a day?
[08:16] <maek> Flannel please don't jump the gun and ban people without looking at what they have actually done   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61713/
[08:16] <Flannel> AliRezaTaleghani: since, I honestly think you're doing something wrong setup wise.
[08:16] <AliRezaTaleghani> Flannel: cos, i damage my PC more, :)
[08:17] <AliRezaTaleghani> Flannel: it's ur kind. :)
[08:17] <Flannel> maek: You were pasting.  And that was ages ago.
[08:17] <maek> Flannel, it was an honest mistake ... a warning could have been sufficient
[08:17] <Flannel> maek: The ops temporarily ban you, until the paste is over.
[08:18] <maek> well you made a mistake and banned me permanently
[08:18] <crdlb> maek: he's not even an op
[08:18] <gbates31> hi
[08:18] <joe1> hey gbates
[08:18] <maek> I was a little miffed because I was in the middle of helping someone solve a problem
[08:18] <gbates31> does anyone here use linux?
[08:18] <joe1> all of us
[08:18] <headrx> no no one here does
[08:18]  * gg thinks he is booooosssss
[08:18] <tenchi21> ok ubuntu is seeing my soundcard as having 2 cards and I need to force it to set it fr stereo only having a right speaker working sucks
[08:18] <maek> yep gbates31
[08:18] <gbates31> wtf
[08:19] <maek> Linux Linux Linux
[08:19] <joe1> this is a ubuntu chat....of course we use linux
[08:19] <gbates31> i have ubuntu 7,10 installed right now and i want to dual boot with windows XP and not lose any files.  how do i do this?
[08:20] <joe1> you should have windows installed first, makes it much easier
[08:20] <kindofabuzz> stick it in and install, it will know windoze is there
[08:20] <joe1> then make two other partitions (or three) for root (linux os), /home (partition for user files) and SWAP
[08:20] <gbates31> *head thru wall*
[08:20] <kindofabuzz> just don't delete it =)
[08:21] <gbates31> ok thanks
[08:21] <joe1> why do you want windows installed?
[08:21] <Adantan_Alex> no u make at least 10 gigabytes of free space
[08:21] <gbates31> i cant live much lnger without Team Fortress 2
[08:21] <joe1> try wine
[08:21] <kindofabuzz> i thin tf works in wine
[08:21] <n-iCe> is there any vmware for ubunru?
[08:21] <joe1> http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/15/how-to-run-team-fortress-2-half-life-2-hl2-ep-12-in-ubuntu-using-wine/
[08:21] <gbates31> tfc or tf2?
[08:22] <kindofabuzz> look it up
[08:22] <n-iCe> !xmware
[08:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xmware - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:22] <joe1> that link will do it for you
[08:22] <kindofabuzz> google tf2 wine
[08:22] <n-iCe> !vmware
[08:22] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[08:22] <thoreauputic> !info vmplayer | n-iCe
[08:22] <ubotu> n-ice: Package vmplayer does not exist in gutsy
[08:22] <thoreauputic> hhmm
[08:22] <thoreauputic> !info vmware-player | n-iCe
[08:22] <ubotu> n-ice: Package vmware-player does not exist in gutsy
[08:22] <gbates31> tf2 will work ok on this laptop, but emulating it?  ill pass
[08:22] <thoreauputic> I give up :)
[08:23] <Adantan_Alex> ur not emulating
[08:23] <joe1> yeah that's not emulating
[08:23] <gbates31> wine isnt emulation?
[08:23] <Adantan_Alex> wine loads windows .exe files
[08:23] <gbates31> madness
[08:23] <pajamian> wine actually stands for Wine Is Not and Emulator
[08:23] <scheater5> gbates31: lol - Wine Is Not an Emulator.
[08:23] <pajamian> *an
[08:23] <thoreauputic> Wine Is Not an Emulator +
[08:23] <gbates31> oh
[08:24] <thoreauputic> gbates31: it recreates the windows api IIRC
[08:24] <gbates31> iirc?
[08:24] <kindofabuzz> gbates31, www.winehq.com
[08:24] <pajamian> yes, it's not an emulator because it doesn't emulate the CPU.  You have to have an i386 cpu for it.
[08:24] <unop__> provides an implementation of the windows API rather
[08:24] <thoreauputic> If I remember Correctly
[08:25] <thoreauputic> unop__: right - thanks, more accurate :)
[08:25] <Adantan_Alex> plus u should of dual boot windows and ubuntu
[08:25] <Adantan_Alex> i did
[08:25] <pajamian> basically it just provides a wrapper or translation layer from the windows API to the corresponding Linux ones.
[08:25] <unop__> thoreauputic,  more accurate but not enough i dont think :)
[08:25] <joe1> I see no reason to install a whole OS just for TF2
[08:25] <gbates31> i have wine, bit it doesnt work for some progs.  plus having 64-bit proc can be annoying sometimes
[08:26] <thoreauputic> unop__: ah well - I can't say I understand it really anyway :)
[08:26] <Adantan_Alex> well ur next option is to re install windows
[08:26] <pajamian> gbates31: I actually recommend that for a workstation you install the 32 bit versino of ubuntu, even on a 64 bit machine.
[08:26] <Adantan_Alex> that will work too
[08:27]  * thoreauputic wonders if the disease that causes people to use "u" instead of "you" is some kind of Internet virus...
[08:27] <gbates31> i was cruising around the pirate bay for the past week and got some old abandonware and other stuff that id rather not hassle around with wine
[08:27] <Adantan_Alex> ....
[08:27] <codename> How would I add Compiz to my applications menu
[08:27] <codename> in 7.10
[08:27] <JanPeter> it is much quicker
[08:27] <unop__> thoreauputic, dint u no tat alredi? :)
[08:27] <codename> Thanks
[08:27] <pajamian> thoreauputic: lazy typing disease?  it's spread via a computer virus?
[08:27] <joe1> sudo apt-get install compizconif-settings-manager
[08:27] <codename> I did.
[08:27] <codename> Now what?
[08:27] <codename> I still don't see it
[08:28] <joe1> you installed the settings manager?
[08:28] <Xawas> Yesterday I changed my network driver fram rt61pci to rt61 and works great now. But now I do not get Mongrel to work. No brower respond to the http://0.0.0.0:3000 anymore.. Anyone knows why?
[08:28] <thoreauputic> pajamian: heh - wel i guess I can't complain. My typing is atrocious
[08:28] <codename> yea
[08:28] <codename> now what?
[08:28] <pajamian> thoreauputic: hehehe
[08:28] <thoreauputic> pajamian: as evidenced by that last post :)
[08:28] <joe1> now it should be in preferences under advanced desktop settings
[08:28] <Adantan_Alex> no oz
[08:28] <unop__> thoreauputic, you forgot a fullstop there. :)
[08:28] <Adantan_Alex> soz*
[08:28] <thoreauputic> unop__: oh, the shame!
[08:28] <joe1> advanced desktop effects settings to be exact
[08:28] <codename> No, I know that, I'm trying to get a Compiz settings manager on my Applications menu
[08:29] <codename> Where I can just click it
[08:29] <joe1> you can just click it there in system, preferences, advanced desktop effects settings.....
[08:29] <Adantan_Alex> .... lol
[08:29] <unop__> Xawas, http://0.0.0.0:3000 should never have worked in the first place, does http://127.0.0.1:3000 work?
[08:30] <joe1> if you really want it in applications also just right click the applications and go to edit menu and add it a hundred times wherever you want ;)
[08:30] <Xawas> unop__, nope
[08:31] <Xawas> unop__, it says that: ** Starting Mongrel listening at 0.0.0.0:3000, so it should work.. It did work..
[08:31] <Xawas> but not anymore..
[08:31] <unop__> Xawas, i'm assuming mongrel is a network service here .. is it even running? do you have anything listening on port 3000?
[08:31] <Oprtz> hello
[08:31] <gatestone>  I just wonder...has anyone attempted to start a distribution based on Webmin?
[08:31] <pajamian> Xawas: that means it is listening on all available interfaces (0.0.0.0 is a special code for that), you cannot, however, access it at 0.0.0.0
[08:32] <Xawas> unop__, kinda new to linux world, but is there a cmd to check what is listening on diffrent ports?
[08:32] <pajamian> Xawas: netstat -l
[08:32] <unop__> Xawas, ps aux | grep -i mongrel; netstat -antp | grep -i :3000
[08:32] <Oprtz> can somebody tell me please how a person get " initramfs " error while installing ubuntu ? what is this? how to protect against it? thanks
[08:32] <scheater5> anyone know their way around vnc? I got some weirdness trying to screen share into OSX
[08:32] <Xawas> unop__, tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:3000            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN     6762/ruby
[08:33] <Wayne^R2> "netstat -a" once got a coworker of mine fired for figuring out who was using VNC to spy on us - it was the boss.  lol
[08:33] <joe1> Oprtz: with that error try the alternative cd
[08:33] <pajamian> Oprtz: that error meas either your install CD is corrupted, you have a defective cd rom drive, or bad RAM.
[08:34] <Oprtz> i tried alternate CD as well
[08:34] <unop__> Xawas, hmm, looks good so far .. what does this give you?  http://localhost:3000
[08:34] <pajamian> Oprtz: did you run the install CD test from the boot menu?
[08:34] <Xawas> unop__, it just hangs...
[08:34] <ikm> pajamian: but i can install windowsXP on same DVD rom drive.
[08:35] <pajamian> Oprtz: did you run the install CD test from the boot menu?
[08:35] <unop__> Xawas, it could be that mongrel or ruby have a problem .. does mongrel have any logfiles you can examine?
[08:35] <ikm> somebody told me that i want to repair my MBR
[08:35] <unop__> Xawas,  you could also try this?   wget http://localhost:3000
[08:35] <ikm> yes i boot with the alternate CD test .. test was OK
[08:36] <joe1> can you run live distro at all?
[08:36] <pajamian> ikm: ok, well this is not am MBR problem.  It won't even load up the install, right?
[08:36] <ikm> joe1: NO
[08:36] <joe1> sounds like RAM issue to me now
[08:36] <ikm> pajamian: exactly
[08:36] <Adantan_Alex> yep
[08:36] <Xawas> unop__,  ok two secs
[08:36] <pajamian> ikm: I would lean towards a RAM problem, run memtest from the boot menu
[08:36] <joe1> run the RAM test over night
[08:36] <ikm> so any solution or i need to buy another HDD?
[08:36] <joe1> let it do like 10 passes
[08:37] <joe1> it's not HDD it's RAM
[08:37] <joe1> run the test and search for errors
[08:37] <Xawas> unop__, Connecting to localhost|127.0.0.1|:3000...  (just hangs there)
[08:37] <joe1> just let it go 12-24 hours
[08:37] <pajamian> no, it's not HDD, if the HDD were the problem it would still boot up the Live CD
[08:37] <Xawas> unop__, doesnt seem to be anything in the log file either
[08:37] <Adantan_Alex> !alternate | ikm
[08:37] <ubotu> ikm: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[08:37] <ikm> joe1: but rar is working perfectly under XP
[08:37] <unop__> Xawas, try restarting mongrel (i don't know how that is done) .. see if that helps somehow
[08:38] <pajamian> ikm: you will probably see an error in memtest by the time it finishes the first pass, if you see any errors you need not continue running it, you know at that point your RAM is bad.
[08:38] <joe1> that doesn't matter, RAM is used much differently in linux
[08:38] <joe1> it's much more efficient
[08:38] <Adantan_Alex> true
[08:38] <Adantan_Alex> and it uses a partition
[08:38] <joe1> RAM never goes to waste in linux, so if there is a problem at all it could cause it not to boot correctly
[08:38] <ikm> ohhhhh
[08:38] <pajamian> ikm: Linux tends to be less forgiving of bad RAM than windows.
[08:38] <Xawas> unop__, nope.. hehe nothing works.. so wierd.. all this happend after i changed the network driver..
[08:38] <joe1> in Windows RAM is only partially used so if you have an issue at the end of a stick or something like that it would never be caught unless you hit like 90% + RAM use
[08:39] <Adantan_Alex> yes but the live CD uses about 384 megabytes of RAM
[08:39] <joe1> no it doesn't, it uses 100% but only 384 at a time ;)
[08:39] <joe1> that's how linux uses RAM
[08:39] <Adantan_Alex> true
[08:39] <x0x> hello
[08:39] <joe1> hi x0x
[08:39] <bobbo85> I can't seem to record any audio, can anyone help me?
[08:39] <x0x> how do i install nameserver
[08:40] <ikm> listen, i tried to install windowsXP on the same machne and i get this error " Unexpeced error (32769) occurred at line 5218 in d:\xpsprtm\base\setup.c
[08:40] <Adantan_Alex> do u have a C Drive?
[08:40] <unop__> Xawas, i'm not sure this is a problem with the network driver but i also don't know enough about mongrel (first time i am hearing of it) to troubleshoot the service ..
[08:40] <pajamian> ikm: we can't troubleshoot your windows problems here.
[08:40] <joe1> sorry I don't know much about windows
[08:40] <x0x> is there anyway to create nameserver on ubuntu?
[08:40] <joe1> I would just recommend the RAM test
[08:40] <Xawas> unop__, mongrel is another webserver like webrick, if you ever heard of that?
[08:41] <ikm> ahhhh ok :)
[08:41] <ikm> so u guys sugges me to cheke RAM ?
[08:41] <Adantan_Alex> private chat
[08:41] <thoreauputic> x0x: sudo apt-get install bind9  <-- that's only one way though
[08:41] <pajamian> ikm: yes
[08:41] <joe1> yeah do the mem test
[08:41] <joe1> from the ubuntu cd
[08:41] <unop__> Xawas, not really :) not much into ruby and it's extensions, i gathered it was a webserver
[08:41] <Adantan_Alex> if there r any more errors then private chat me
[08:41] <pajamian> ikm: there is a very handy program for that you can access from the boot menu of the Live CD called memcheck.
[08:41] <ikm> if i get ram errors , need to change ram then
[08:41] <DJones> ikm: You could try in ##windows, they might be able to help with a windows install problem
[08:41] <x0x> thoreauputic i have it.. what i need to do now?
[08:41] <thoreauputic> x0x: i think you need to do some reading
[08:41] <Adantan_Alex> i know about windows
[08:42] <x0x> i want like ns1.something.com for dns
[08:42] <pajamian> ikm: yes, but if you have more than one stick pull one out at a time to find out what the bad stick is, you probably don't have to replace all of them.
[08:42] <unop__> x0x, what kind of name resolution are you trying to provide? netbios or dns?
[08:42] <thoreauputic> x0x: google is your friend in this case - also read the Ubuntu server help - see http://help.ubuntu.com
[08:42] <x0x> unop__ dns
[08:42] <Adantan_Alex> hey with serve edition can u make ur own domain for free?
[08:42] <ikm> i have only 1 stick of 512RAm :)
[08:42] <Xawas> unop__, hehe ok ;-) hmm well thx anyway =)
[08:43] <joe1> time to upgrade RAM anyways ;)
[08:43] <MrMist> I'm running the new ubuntu beta and got a few issues. How do I approach this ? I'd like to help :)
[08:43] <thoreauputic> unop__: x0x seems to be trying to become a sysadmin overnight ;p
[08:43] <tarelerulz> If you install kde via synaptic it should work right with out missing with it ?
[08:43] <joe1> 512....Ubuntu will lag a little (and XP will be.....worse than it already is)
[08:43] <Adantan_Alex> the RAM could be damaged
[08:43] <pajamian> Adantan_Alex: you have to purchase domain names from a proper domain registrar.  If you already own a domain name you can usually get subdomains of it for free, though.
[08:43] <monkeybritches> Domains need to be registered with a registrar
[08:43] <Adantan_Alex> no the live CD worked on my computer and i got 512 megabytes of RAM
[08:43] <unop__> x0x, this could help www.langfeldt.net/DNS-HOWTO/BIND-9/DNS-HOWTO.html
[08:44] <linxeh> ikm: you could try installing the xubuntu-desktop packages if you want to save a bit of ram
[08:44] <unop__> thoreauputic, he probably already is? :)
[08:44] <Adantan_Alex> ok thanks
[08:44] <x0x> tnx unop__
[08:44] <thoreauputic> unop__: that's a scary thought :)
[08:44] <ikm> linxeh: bt i like ubuntu :) i will buy more RAM
[08:44] <pajamian> ikm: then run the memtest, if it finds bad RAM you will have to replace the stick.
[08:44] <linxeh> thoreauputic: thats a rather arrogant attitude... many people, especially in small businesses, are forced into becoming sysadmins
[08:45] <linxeh> ikm: sure - but the xubuntud-desktop packages are ubuntu, its just a different window manager (XFCE4, and it looks good, albeit blue by default!)
[08:45] <Netham45> is it illegal to install a DVD decoder, such as libdvdcss onto Linux?
[08:45] <linxeh> Netham45: where do you live ?
[08:45] <Netham45> linxeh, USA
[08:45] <thoreauputic> linxeh: yes, but they don't learn by expecting to find all the answers in an IRC channel generally - and if you think I'm arrogant you must be new here :)
[08:46] <joe1> lol
[08:46] <pajamian> linxeh, ikm: installing xubuntu will help with cases where there is not a lot of ram to begin with, not where the RAM is bad.
[08:46] <linxeh> pajamian: sorry, I missed the bit with bad ram - I only just rejoined
[08:46] <pajamian> ikm: run memtest, I think you'll find it shows errors by the end of the first pass.
[08:47] <linxeh> Netham45: maybe then. you might have DMCA issues I guess. realistically, I doubt anyone is gonna care though
[08:47] <unop__> thoreauputic, that's not true .. #ubuntu has the answers for absolutely everything .. with all the gentoo and archlinux folk asking questions in here :)
[08:47] <Netham45> linxeh, well, I'd rather not put my self in potential legal issue.
[08:47] <thoreauputic> unop__: heh
[08:48] <pajamian> Netham45: if you want legal advice consult a lawyer, if you want technical advice we can tell you *how* to install libdvdcss, but not give you legal advice on it.
[08:48] <linxeh> Netham45: millions of people do it
[08:48] <Netham45> heh
[08:48] <unop__> thoreauputic, haven't you noticed, you can have a half hour troubleshooting session with someone suggesting commands and files, only to find out later they are running an entirely different distro and half the things you suggested don't work as a result.
[08:49] <linxeh> unop__: thats because linux is ubuntu!
[08:49] <linxeh> :)
[08:49] <pajamian> Netham45: that said, I have yet to hear of someone getting arrested for installing libdvdcss, especially if your only reason for doing so is to play your legally purchased DVDs.
[08:49] <thoreauputic> unop__: Oh yes. that was especially true in the warty-hoary era :)
[08:49] <Netham45> pajamian, ok.
[08:49] <thoreauputic> unop__: Nostalgia just isn't the same any more... ;p
[08:51] <unop__> thoreauputic, it continues in here from time to time .. when you do ask why they don't go to the right channels .. you get a "ohh well, they won't help me, i'm a n00b." :)
[08:51] <dibblego> !wireless
[08:51] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:51] <thoreauputic> unop__: ah, there's some truth in that I guess
[08:52] <thoreauputic> unop__: I used to be a #debian regular - I wasn't arrogant enough for that channel in 2002 ;)
[08:52] <unop__> thoreauputic, you saying we're easy pushovers in here eh?
[08:52] <unop__> :)
[08:52] <joe1> night all
[08:52] <thoreauputic> unop__: do you remember bob2 ?
[08:52] <unop__> ciao
[08:52] <pajamian> unop__: well, to be fair, channels for specific projects often times don't have enough active developers montioring the channel to be able to help people all the time.
[08:53] <unop__> thoreauputic, can't say i do
[08:53] <wangfg> why my suspend to disk not works?
[08:53] <thoreauputic> unop__: that guy was a hoot - really sarcastic but also really clueful. I miss him.
[08:53] <unop__> pajamian, you would think so, often enough they can't be asked to hold someone's hand through something that is already documented (in a manpage) :)
[08:53] <preston> im trying and having sucsess with the 8.04 beta 7.10 was problematic for me my question is will i have to upgrade when the final release comes out or will the beta just turn into the final thru updates
[08:54] <thoreauputic> unop__: #ubuntu has become a bit too warm ad fuzzy i think - we need an occasional sardonic comment or two
[08:54] <unop__> thoreauputic, reminds me of greycat in #bash :) he's a badboy :)
[08:54] <thoreauputic> unop__: bad and funny can be a good combination in a xhannel sometimes
[08:54] <pajamian> unop__: that's true too, though less so in my experience.  True newbies ask a lot of those same questions but usually someone will at least point them in the right direction.
[08:54] <thoreauputic> *channel
[08:55] <unop__> thoreauputic, i agree, sometimes a rude comment (for the right reason) is good motivation for the intended person :)
[08:55] <rrob> hi, do you think that is possible to install "Sun Java Communications Suite 5" on ubuntu? im googling without succes
[08:56] <pajamian> rrob: I don't know, if it's  Linux app it should be quite possible.
[08:56] <thoreauputic> unop__: These days if you make asarcastic remark you are accused of not following the Coder of Conduct - silly really
[08:56] <rrob> thoreauputic yes it is for linux, but sun prefer solaris
[08:57] <thoreauputic> rrob: wrong nick?
[08:57] <rrob> and instalation guide looks like for solaris
[08:57] <rrob> ?
[08:57] <rrob> http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/819-7560/gdila?a=view
[08:57] <unop__> thoreauputic, well, i suppose there's a time and place for comments like that .. for people who aren't used to that culture it can be really frustrating .. and i suppose if you want people to enjoy ubuntu, sarcasm doesn't go well with the definition of ubuntu.
[08:57] <thoreauputic> unop__: sure.
[08:58] <thoreauputic> unop__: I was making a general comment on the insistence on absolute correctness
[08:58] <preston> anyone know if i will need to reinstall the final release or will i just be able to upgrade the beta
[08:58] <rrob> preston: of ubuntu 8.04 ?
[08:58] <thoreauputic> unop__: I'm a softie, actually :)
[08:58] <preston> yes rrob
[08:58] <pajamian> rrob: if it says it's compatible with Linux then it should install fine into ubuntu.
[08:58] <rrob> preston: best way is to clear system and then install new
[08:59] <thoreauputic> unop__: but this is off-topic I suppose ;p
[08:59] <unop__> thoreauputic, lol
[08:59] <pajamian> !hardy | preston
[08:59] <ubotu> preston: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[08:59] <rrob> preston: i had lot of problems with simple upgrading from last 6.10 to 7.04 ... but officialy it must work
[08:59] <Finnish_> How can I copy cd into my HD, as an image?
[08:59] <gg> !iso
[08:59] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[08:59] <preston> rrob i just installed the beta and have been updating and its working alot better for me than 7.10 did
[09:00] <rrob> Finnish_: use livecd of gparted and use partimage or clonezilla
[09:00] <thoreauputic> Finnish_:  dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/home/you/dump.iso
[09:00] <pajamian> Finnish_: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=image.iso
[09:00] <rrob> Finnish_: pardoon idont read it well
[09:00] <thoreauputic> pajamian: :)
[09:00] <pajamian> hehehe
[09:01] <rrob> ok ... another questin ... i want share calendars from thunderbird in webdav... i have lighttpd wit mod_webdav and sqlite
[09:01] <rrob> everything is ok
[09:01] <rrob> but i dont know how to tel webdav which user is authorized to write data
[09:03] <borisfr> hello i'm french with a qwerty keyboard .... can you tell me how to make "_" but in the middle ? thanks
[09:04] <thoreauputic> borisfr: in the middle of what ?
[09:04] <pajamian> borisfr: you might have better luck getting an answer in #ubuntu-fr
[09:04] <pajamian> thoreauputic: he means a dash (-)
[09:04] <thoreauputic> pajamian: ah I see :)
[09:04] <mckulk>  i cant find supported tv cards by ubuntu. can any one give an exact link?
[09:04] <rrob> borisfr: press and hold left alt and type 95 on keypad on left
[09:05] <pajamian> !hardware | mckulk
[09:05] <ubotu> mckulk: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[09:05] <Homere> our
[09:05] <rrob> borisfr: alt + 95 is _ and alt + 45 is -
[09:05] <mckulk> pajamian thx.
[09:06] <Homere> what's the difference between ubuntu server and ubuntu desktop from apt's point of view ?   (install via debootstrap)
[09:06] <donkey7186> does anyone know where i can get free tags for the computer
[09:06] <rrob> Homere i use desktop edition
[09:06] <unop> borisfr,  CTRL+SHIFT+U, 5, F
[09:06] <rrob> Homere there is no desktop
[09:06] <rrob> its clean system
[09:06] <rrob> about 600mb
[09:06] <Terrasque> Homere: the default package list :)
[09:06] <unop> rrob, does alt+<whatever> work on gnome?
[09:07] <rrob> great think
[09:07] <borisfr> thanks
[09:07] <Homere> Terrasque: ok, thanks
[09:07] <rrob> unop ... .) aha ... dont know
[09:07] <mckulk> pajamian for looking suported tv card. do i have to look in multimedia sections?
[09:07] <rrob> unop ... but i think yes .. its standart ascii code
[09:07] <unop> rrob, i dont think it works like it does on windows
[09:07] <pajamian> mckulk: I don't know, look around and see.
[09:07] <rrob> unop ... ugh .. now you know on which system im now .)
[09:08] <unop> rrob, yea, but on linux, the value is read in hexadecimal not decimal
[09:08] <rrob> unop ... dont you know how to set users in webdav?
[09:08] <unop> rrob, you on windows?
[09:08] <rrob> unop ... (shame) yes .( ..... im in work
[09:08] <unop> rrob, htaccess/htpasswd i assume
[09:09] <tarelerulz> What do you all think about Konqueror compared to  Fire fox ?
[09:09] <radragon16> Can someone help a linux noob with a java problem?
[09:09] <rrob> tarelerulz firefox rulez
[09:09] <rrob> radragon16 whic problem
[09:09] <mckulk>  i cant find supported tv cards by ubuntu. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport for looking suported tv card. do i have to look in multimedia sections?
[09:09] <rrob> tarelerulz but opera is best
[09:09] <radragon16> I have java installed yet when I i try to load an app I get "Error loading applet"
[09:10] <preston> will the beta of 8.04 turn into the final release if i continue to update the beta??
[09:10] <pajamian> mckulk: it looks to me like there are TV cards in the multimedia section.
[09:10] <unop> tarelerulz, konqueror is mostly used on KDE desktops .. and it's quite cool in the way it can also morph into a file browser .. but it's not as widely used as firefox
[09:10] <Flannel> preston: yes
[09:10] <tarelerulz> rrob, what do you like about opera over Firefox .
[09:10] <preston> thanks Flannel
[09:10] <rrob> mckulk if i can fint some howto (last time for scanner) i try google for "howto gentoo scanner / tv card"
[09:10] <DJones> !final | preston
[09:10] <ubotu> preston: If you installed a Alpha/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy Heron) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Hardy. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.
[09:10] <pajamian> preston: you really need to ask questions about the beta in #ubuntu+1
[09:10] <unop> tarelerulz, opera seems to work faster but it doesn't have as many available extensions as firefox.
[09:10] <rrob> tarelerulz gestures and lot of things
[09:11] <rrob> tarelerulz try it
[09:11] <preston> ah ok thanks pajamian
[09:11] <tarelerulz> For file manger / web browering it is pretty good. If could get it act bit more like firefox I would be set .
[09:11] <radragon16> *lost
[09:11] <mckulkk_>  i cant find supported tv cards by ubuntu. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport for looking suported tv card. do i have to look in multimedia sections?
[09:12] <tarelerulz> I used opera on windows and I really did not say anything that just jump out at me.  The text-to-speech part was the only really cool thing I found on it.
[09:12] <unop> radragon16, is that all of the error message you get?
[09:12] <radragon16> yes
[09:12] <radragon16> with an applet that is
[09:12] <borisfr> another question, I want to install the hardy beta, because someone tell me there is no bugs. 1) is that right ? ^^ 2) if I install hardy, when the final version will be released, will I have to reinstall hardy ? (sorry for my english)
[09:13] <unop> radragon16, i think applets need specific command line options to be launched offline .. you will probably have better luck asking the guys in #java
[09:13] <rrob> borisfr dont do it, wait for finall release
[09:13] <radragon16> This is an online applet
[09:13] <borisfr> why ?
[09:13] <Pi3cH> finall release would be on 16 days
[09:13] <MrMist> argh
[09:13] <rrob> borisfr update may be complicated
[09:13] <MrMist> When will we se default font antialiasing in emacs ?
[09:13] <borisfr> ok ... thanks
[09:13] <rrob> borisfr and some errors could happend
[09:13] <unop> borisfr, 1) wrong 2) you just update available packages
[09:14] <MrMist> Why all this hassle to get it working ?
[09:14] <MrMist> Shouldn't someone point that out for the 8.04 guys? We WANT emacs with aliasing
[09:14] <borisfr> ok
[09:14] <unop> MrMist, you can ask the guys yourself.. please go to #ubuntu+1
[09:14] <radragon16> So you guys have no clue?
[09:14] <[[thufir]]> is there some problem with installing PHP curl?
[09:15] <[[thufir]]> I get an error when installing curl:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62487/
[09:15] <borisfr> is there a software that crypt specified data automatically ?
[09:15] <Pi3cH> does any bodu here know about Squid cache proxy?
[09:16] <tarelerulz> Where would you find the Konqueror chat room or page ect . I really like to mess with beyond normal use stuff. I basical want to make it act more like fire fox.
[09:16] <unop> [[thufir]], run this first .. sudo aptitude update
[09:16] <mckulk_> sory, i was disconnected. i cant find supported tv cards by ubuntu. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport for looking suported tv card. do i have to look in multimedia sections?
[09:16] <radragon16> I will try #java
[09:16] <thundr2> tarelerulz: try /j #konqueror
[09:16] <Pi3cH> does any bodu here know about Squid cache proxy?
[09:16] <unop> !truecrypt | borisfr
[09:16] <ubotu> borisfr: Truecypt is a free open-source on-the-fly disk encryption software.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TruecryptHiddenVolume
[09:17] <borisfr> thanks !
[09:17] <[[thufir]]> unop: will do.   I'm doing updates through the GUI at the moment.  same thing?
[09:17] <Biokarl_108042> what´s up
[09:17] <Pi3cH> no one knows?!
[09:17] <ikm> pajamian: i asked from windows channel and they suggess might be its a media problem, chage ur cd rom and try
[09:18] <mckulk_> sory, i was disconnected. i cant find supported tv cards by ubuntu. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport for looking suported tv card. do i have to look in multimedia sections?
[09:18] <unop> [[thufir]], yes, and if you are updating via the GUI that could be the reasons apt-get fails at the CLI
[09:18] <ikm> i did but failed :) lol, seems ubuntu dont like me anymore
[09:18] <thundr2> tarelerulz: You could also try #kde.  It might be more active, but I don't know if that specifically would be off-topic.
[09:18] <unop> tarelerulz, or #kubuntu even
[09:18] <rrob> unop ... htacces/htpasswd is for apache ... im using lighttpd .( and lighttpd wiki dont talk about it
[09:19] <unop> rrob, i have no idea about lighthttpd .. maybe the webdav documentation (for lighthttpd ??) has more on users and authentication
[09:19] <[[thufir]]> unop:  I only started trying the GUI update when the curl install failed.  it's chugging away
[09:19] <unop> [[thufir]], ok, let that finish first then
[09:20] <borisfr> do you know why gparted take 20 minutes to start ? and 20 minutes to resize a partition...
[09:20] <rrob> unop: documentation have about 30lines .( nothing else
[09:20] <radragon16> They won't let me into #java lol I get this:        * ##java :You need to be identified to join that channel
[09:20] <juanjo> hola
[09:20] <rrob> unop ... uaaa i find lighttpd irc channel .)
[09:20] <juanjo> hi
[09:20] <rrob> bye and thx
[09:20] <unop> !register | radragon16
[09:20] <ubotu> radragon16: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[09:21] <unop> rrob, well, thats a problem with some of these smaller projects - lack of sufficient documentation.
[09:21] <Frogzoo> borisfr: I'd say it's having trouble reading the disk
[09:22] <openuser> hi, do anybody know if there's some ubuntu based distro which includes kde 4 by default????
[09:22] <[[thufir]]> sudo aptitude update seems to stall at 99% [Connecting to ca.archive.ubuntu.com (129.97.134.71)]    as did trying to install curl.  some sort of repository problem?  my networking would seem to be ok.
[09:22] <bazhang> openuser: you can install kde4 very easily with a single command in ubuntu
[09:23] <borisfr> frogzoo => the disk is readable and has no problem, I use it from a long time
[09:23] <Frogzoo> [[thufir]]: maybe a repos down atm - try later
[09:23] <yao_ziyuan> i strongly recommend that ubuntu include the gnome-look,.org theme Nimbus
[09:23] <yao_ziyuan> it is the best gnome theme i have ever used
[09:23] <radragon16> I guess it worked
[09:23] <bazhang> !brainstorm | yao_ziyuan
[09:23] <[[thufir]]> Frogzoo: ok
[09:23] <ubotu> yao_ziyuan: Post your ideas for ubuntu at http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com and vote for the ones you like!
[09:23] <DJones> !kde4 | openuser, There's a link and instructions on how to add kde4 to your system here,
[09:23] <ubotu> openuser, There's a link and instructions on how to add kde4 to your system here,: KDE 4.0.3 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.3.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.3.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[09:24] <mckulk_>  i cant find supported tv cards by ubuntu. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport for looking suported tv card. do i have to look in multimedia sections?
[09:25] <radragon16> -.-
[09:26] <erUSUL> [[thufir]]: most likely a probelm in the server
[09:27] <kelvin911> does anyone here know how to format a floppy???
[09:27] <gg> lol
[09:27] <mckulk_>  i cant find supported tv cards by ubuntu. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport for looking suported tv card. do i have to look in multimedia sections?
[09:27] <Frogzoo> kelvin911: fdformat
[09:27] <kelvin911> format a floppy that is in the USB floppy drive
[09:27] <kelvin911> in USB floppy drive not the normal one
[09:28] <kelvin911> like one of those USB floppy drive for laptop
[09:28] <azuki> is it a usb floppy ?
[09:28] <kelvin911> yes
[09:28] <kelvin911> superformat then what?
[09:29] <kelvin911> no one knows?
[09:29] <Frogzoo> kelvin911: fdformat
[09:30] <gg> !info fdformat
[09:30] <ubotu> Package fdformat does not exist in gutsy
[09:30] <erUSUL> kelvin911: «gksudo gfloppy»
[09:30] <thundr2> mckulk_: Which tv tuner do you have?
[09:30] <kelvin911> i try the floppy formator but it said something like geometry not recognize
[09:31] <kelvin911> it is a usb floppy not the normal one
[09:32] <kelvin911> pls take a look http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1is3.png
[09:32] <Frogzoo> kelvin911: if it were me, I'd do 'sudo fdformat /path/to/drive'
[09:32] <kelvin911> whats the path?
[09:32] <kelvin911> is it /media/disk???
[09:32] <Frogzoo> /dev/something..
[09:32] <kelvin911> it is mounted there
[09:33] <kelvin911> i dont know what dev it is in
[09:33] <Frogzoo> kelvin911: /mount will show the device name
[09:33] <Frogzoo> kelvin911: 'mount' will show the device name
[09:33] <Frogzoo> but if it's already mounting, why need format it?
[09:34] <kelvin911> here /dev/sdj on /media/disk type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,utf8,umask=077,usefree)
[09:34] <kelvin911> if i have an image file something.img how do i put it in the disk?
[09:34] <Frogzoo> kelvin911: dd if=something.img of=/dev/sdj   assuming that path's right
[09:34] <jahid> ?
[09:34] <kelvin911> i want to create a floppy boot disk
[09:35] <kelvin911> Frogzoo: what is the command?
[09:35] <kelvin911> dd myfile.img /dev/sdj ????
[09:35] <In-Sane> hows it useful if I downloaded the Hardy version (beta), I mean it is still beta?
[09:35] <AdvoWork> hi there, i had a samba share setup from my linux machine to a windows box, the share was from /home/mydir to \\theotherpc\mydirfiles which pointed to c:\mydirfiles. All ive done is changed the share from c:\mydirfiles to d:\mydirfiles for the share name, which works yet ive tried restarting samba,remounting and it gives me: Could not open /home/mydir: Invalid slot and Could not resolve mount point /home/mydir  any ideas please? do i have to re "
[09:36] <Tex-Twil> Hello
[09:36] <Tex-Twil> could anybody help to find me where this QT error comes from ? http://pastebin.com/m1ca5906b
[09:36] <Tex-Twil> when trying to ./configure kbear
[09:37] <borisfr> why nautilus can not be launched by the terminal ?
[09:37] <akatsuki> hello why there is nothing on the gedit /etc/inittab???not in 7.10 anymore?
[09:37] <gg> nautilus /home?
[09:37] <akatsuki> whats the new command for inittab??
[09:38] <erUSUL> !upstart | akatsuki
[09:38] <AdvoWork> actually, i think ive fixed it
[09:38] <ubotu> akatsuki: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[09:38] <borisfr> gg => yes I can launch nautilus with the GUI but "nautilus" "gksudo nautilus" "nautilus .", etc doesn't work
[09:38] <In-Sane> !logs
[09:38] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - Logs for LoCo channels are at http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/
[09:39] <dcmorton> Tex-Twil: could you also put the contents of config.log to pastebin.com?
[09:39] <akatsuki> erUSUL i just type this and i will be able to use the old commands?
[09:39] <erUSUL> akatsuki: what do you want to do?
[09:39] <Tex-Twil> ok dcmorton
[09:39] <erUSUL> akatsuki: what old commands?
[09:39] <atmishere> does any body know about GRID internet is it like networked GRID computers using OFC cables...
[09:39] <borisfr> I'm on the live cd, and I can launch nautilus in terminal when I'm logged with Ubuntu, but not root
[09:40] <akatsuki> well i want to get in to inittab in order to free up more memory.. tahts why.. i want to disable some virtual consoles that i never use
[09:40] <Tex-Twil> dcmorton, http://pastebin.com/m5c186ef7
[09:41] <borisfr> ...
[09:41] <erUSUL> akatsuki: then rename the /etc/event.d/tty* files that you do not need
[09:42] <akatsuki> for example respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty3, 4, 5, and 6
[09:42] <akatsuki> i want to add a # there
[09:42] <borisfr> how to calculate the size of a directory ? on terminal
[09:42] <akatsuki> is the only way i know how
[09:42] <Tex-Twil> du -sh borisfr
[09:42] <akatsuki> the way i use to do it before
[09:42] <spider_> ?
[09:42] <akatsuki> erUSUL i dont know how to do that
[09:42] <akatsuki> how is that method
[09:43] <kelvin911> dd: opening `/dev/fd0': Permission denied
[09:43] <borisfr> thx !
[09:43] <[LMM]Iowahc> #css
[09:44] <akatsuki> erUSUL i try  /etc/event.d/tty but its blank
[09:44] <kelvin911> i try this dd if=bootfloppy.img of=/dev/fd0 and i receive error
[09:44] <akatsuki> i cant see any data there:S
[09:44] <erUSUL> akatsuki: "sudo mv /etc/event.d/tty6 /etc/event.d/tty6.disabled" for example
[09:44] <erUSUL> akatsuki: and the same for the rest of the unneeded vt's
[09:46] <Tex-Twil> dcmorton, any ideas ?
[09:46] <Slider> hi, i am having a problem with my keyboard, can anyone help ?
[09:46] <akatsuki> really?? for example sudo mv /etc/event.d/tty6 /etc/event.d/tty6.disabled would work for #6:23: respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty6??
[09:46] <dcmorton> tex-twil: just a second, possibly one
[09:47] <Tex-Twil> ok dcmorton
[09:48] <kelvin911> i have exactally same situation with this guy http://readlist.com/lists/lists.debian.org/debian-user/10/54840.html
[09:48] <kelvin911> how to solve it?
[09:48] <akatsuki> ahh it has been a long time not touching ubuntu.. but i do remmeber some tricks
[09:48] <akatsuki> i will try this brb
[09:48] <borisfr> I want to know the size of each elements of the directory, and I type "ls -a . | du -sh" but it doesn't work. How can I do ?
[09:49] <akatsuki> i have other questions
[09:49] <nucco> hi, i'm trying to compile a program from svn, but some of my libs are out of date. is it possible to install the newer versions without affecting the distro provided ones just for the sake of building and testing the program?
[09:49] <dcmorton> tex-twil: try this sudo apt-get install libqt3-headers libqt3-compat-headers
[09:49] <dcmorton> tex-twil: and then try the ./configure again
[09:50] <bazhang> cant wait for wubi support ;]
[09:50] <akatsuki> erUSUL :( this appears: mv: cannot stat `/etc/event.d/tty6': No such file or directory
[09:50] <Tex-Twil> ok dcmorton I try
[09:51] <akatsuki> the one i want to disable is  #6:23: respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty6
[09:52] <Tex-Twil> dcmorton, no way
[09:54] <erUSUL> akatsuki: which version of ubuntu do you have installed?
[09:55] <akatsuki> 6.10
[09:55] <akatsuki> sorry
[09:55] <akatsuki> 7.10
[09:55] <akatsuki> i mean
[09:55] <akatsuki> gutsy
[09:56] <nucco> you can put more than one word on a line akatsuki
[09:57] <kelvin911> is there windows95/98 emulator for ubuntu?
[09:57] <neeto> Is there something sorta like the fluxbox slit for xfce?
[09:57] <neeto> kelvin911: wine can emulate pretty much any version of windows.
[09:57] <dcmorton> tex-twil: have you installed the "kde-devel" package?
[09:57] <Tex-Twil> yes I did dcmorton
[09:57] <andax> kelvin911: there is a compatibility layer for windows called wine.
[09:57] <kelvin911> i wanna play rollercoaster
[09:58] <kelvin911> it is for win95/98 only
[09:58] <kelvin911> anyone know how to Making boot floppy with USB floppy drive
[09:58] <neeto> kelvin911: http://appdb.winehq.org/search_results.php?cx=013271970634691685804%3Abc-56dvxydi&cof=FORID%3A11&q=rollercoaster+tycoon&sa=Search
[09:58] <kelvin911> anyone?
[09:59] <andax> kelvin911: check out winehq if rollercoaster works with wine.
[09:59] <andax> kelvin911: like neeto already mentioned
[10:00] <akatsuki> ok im reading now.. the initabb function was replace by something called upstart?
[10:00] <kelvin911> anyone know how to Making boot floppy with USB floppy drive
[10:00] <kelvin911> anyone?
[10:00] <akatsuki> i dont know anything about upstart
[10:00] <_ruben> akatsuki: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[10:01] <ubuntu_> bonjour
[10:01] <borisfr> ubuntu_ => on est sur les serveurs anglais, vas sur #ubuntu-fr ;)
[10:02] <borisfr> le canal anglais j'veux dire
[10:02] <ubuntu_> sorry
[10:02] <ubuntu_> bye
[10:03] <akatsuki> ruben there no enough info.. i want to know how to go to the text editor of inittab
[10:03] <neeto> does anyone know of any apps that display CPU/RAM/Disk Space info on your desktop in real time?
[10:03] <akatsuki> sorry i mean of upstar
[10:04] <akatsuki> there is no text editor for upstart??
[10:05] <chlam> what about breezy badger and sata.i
[10:05] <_ruben> akatsuki: just use your favorite editor
[10:05] <chlam> does it come with taht image?
[10:05] <chlam> is there a way for me to load it
[10:06] <DistroJockey> neeto: Something like   gkrellm   maybe?
[10:07] <rrob> do you know how to join domain ... /usr/bin/net join -U  ...
[10:08] <neeto> DistroJockey: I'll check it out. I am looking for those things that are basically embedded in the desktop and display all that information.
[10:08] <Flannel> chlam: What?
[10:08] <chlam> sata.i
[10:08] <snowdoll12345> neeto, conky
[10:08] <Flannel> chlam: SATA I you mean?  What about it?
[10:08] <DistroJockey> neeto: *nods*
[10:08] <chlam> uhh
[10:08] <chlam> i mean like a kernel image
[10:09] <kelvin911> cant install rollercoster
[10:09] <chlam> with slackware you can press like F8 and get a list
[10:09] <chlam> of like atapi.i scsi.i ..etc
[10:09] <neeto> snowdoll12345: conky? nice.
[10:09] <Flannel> chlam: SATA is a hardware thing
[10:09] <chlam> duh?
[10:09] <chlam> i have sata drives
[10:09] <Flannel> chlam: The regular kernel will work fine with SATA drives.  You don't have to do anything special.
[10:09] <chlam> uhh
[10:10] <chlam> on breezy badger?
[10:10] <Flannel> chlam: However, you shouldn't be using Breezy.  Breezy is no longer supported
[10:10] <chlam> i know this, man
[10:10] <xx0xx> hi
[10:10] <chlam> i don't have an option
[10:10] <xx0xx> can anyone help with dns?
[10:10] <Tex-Twil> dcmorton, are you still here ?
[10:11] <Flannel> chlam: Breezy should work fine with SATA drives, yes.  Of course, its been a few years since I've done any breezy installs, but I don't remember having troubles.
[10:12] <Flannel> chlam: I'd say you'd be able to provide additional drivers at install time, but I think that was only implemented after Breezy.
[10:13] <bullgard4> Impress: (I am going to prepare a lecture for the Hardy Release Party in Berlin.) How to create or delete a symbol that appears on all transparencies of the lecture? Where to obtain Impress help?
[10:13] <GuySoft> hey all, we have a modified version running on a hard drive here. and we want turn it to a live cd, is there is a way to do this?
[10:14] <pjv> where do i blacklist a port?
[10:17] <DistroJockey> GuySoft: try  remastersys
[10:18] <akatsuki> helllo anyone know how to call up the text editor with startup loaded
[10:18] <akatsuki> i need to edit it
[10:19] <lesshaste> http://videolectures.net/mlss05us_bickel_bscs/ says it needs a plugin but it doesn't tell me which one!
[10:19] <lesshaste> how do I find out?
[10:19] <brian> Can I make a shortcut to something(/home/username/desktop) and actually place it right in /?
[10:19] <xx0xx> !dns
[10:19] <ubotu> DNS is an acronym for Domain Name System, and is an internet system used to translate names into IP Address.
[10:22] <miriam27> kann mir hier jemand hilfe leisten, ich habe 2 probleme mit ubuntu
[10:22] <rockysynerg1> I just installed Inkscape 0.45. I tried it out by creating a new file. But just after I draw the fist object with rectangle draw tool, the Inkscape  crashed with the error message in terminal says "(inkscape:4812): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_utf8_casefold: assertion `str != NULL' failed" Do any of you have any idea how to fix this?
[10:22] <osfameron> !de | miriam27
[10:22] <ubotu> miriam27: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:22] <akatsuki> hello people how can i install the fasterfox extension ?? i cant found it in synaptic:S
[10:22] <miriam27> danke
[10:23] <lesshaste> akatsuki, the normal way :) just go to its homepage
[10:23] <osfameron> akatsuki: I usually google for the extension and install from addons.mozilla.org or wherever
[10:23] <chlam> what's fasterfox?
[10:23] <lesshaste> http://videolectures.net/mlss05us_bickel_bscs/ says it needs a plugin but it doesn't tell me which one!  How do I find which plugin it was looking for. It doesn't seem to tell you
[10:23] <lesshaste> chlam, a waste of time :)
[10:23] <chlam> wh
[10:23] <chlam> why*
[10:24] <kelvin911> when running wine
[10:25] <kditty> i have a cavalry external HDD formatted in ntfs, when i plug the usb into my port ubuntu does not pick it up
[10:25] <brian> Can I make a shortcut to something("/home/username/desktop") and actually place it right in "/"?
[10:25] <kelvin911> if the game is playing at the resolution lower than the desktop how to make it running in window?
[10:25] <blue-frog> brian with administrative rights yes
[10:25] <kelvin911> why the game i play has higher frame rate than i play in xp?
[10:25] <DistroJockey> lesshaste: did you look at the "See also" section?
[10:26] <brian> kelvin911: This is Ubuntus support channel, not wines :) I THINK wines room is #winehq
[10:26] <brian> blue-frog: Ah :D How do I do that? I'm the only account on the computer, so should I have admin?(New to linux)
[10:26] <brian> blue-frog: so shouldn't I have admin*
[10:26] <lesshaste> DistroJockey, where?
[10:26] <kditty> fdisk -l puts out...
[10:26] <kditty>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[10:26] <kditty> /dev/sdb1   *           1       48641   390708801    7  HPFS/NTFS
[10:27] <blue-frog> brian: you are admin already
[10:27] <DistroJockey> lesshaste: that page you linked
[10:27] <blue-frog> brian if you are new to linux, you shouldn't start meesing around for nothing with /
[10:27] <IdentityX> Whenever I boot Ubuntu I first need to run "sudo ifconfig eth1 mtu 1400" to correctly set the MTU of my adapter. Is there a way to do this automatically on startup, or change the setting permanently?
[10:28] <xx0xx> !webmin
[10:28] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. See !ebox instead.
[10:28] <brian> blue-frog: When I try to put the shortcut in, it says I don't have permission.
[10:29] <xx0xx> !ebox
[10:29] <ubotu> ebox is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See the plans for Hardy at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EboxSpec
[10:29] <Tex-Twil> could anybody help to find me where this QT error comes from ? http://pastebin.com/m1ca5906b
[10:29] <blue-frog> brian correct but what do you need to put this shortcut in here for?
[10:29] <Tex-Twil> !ebox | Tex-Twil
[10:29] <lesshaste> DistroJockey, firefox says there are missing plugins then fails to find any
[10:29] <lesshaste> DistroJockey, what does it do for you?
[10:30] <DistroJockey> lesshaste: yeah, noticed that (same). Says: Windows Media Player Firefox Plugin - Download (for Win only ofcourse) :(
[10:30] <lesshaste> DistroJockey, right.. shouldn't firefox be able to use totem or mplayer in the normal way?
[10:30] <IdentityX> Whenever I boot Ubuntu I first need to run "sudo ifconfig eth1 mtu 1400" to correctly set the MTU of my adapter. Is there a way to do this automatically on startup, or change the setting permanently?
[10:31] <lkthomas> hey guys
[10:31] <lkthomas> anyone using qemu now ?
[10:31] <brian> blue-frog: Got a little server set up, and part of it is filesharing. Me and my friend(Who actually can view all the folders on the computer, not just the ones in the uploads folder it has) hafta go through a few folders to get to the uploads. Twould just be nice to click the one link and be done. Tis all GUI, no command line.
[10:31] <DistroJockey> lesshaste: doesn't look like it, is the same in Hardy beta (that's what I'm using atm)
[10:31] <DistroJockey> lesshaste: the .PPT slides work fine though
[10:32] <nesp> IdentityX: add it in /etc/rc.local
[10:32] <lesshaste> DistroJockey, they aren't as nice as video :)
[10:32] <IdentityX> just that line?
[10:32] <DistroJockey> lesshaste: :)
[10:32] <IdentityX> But will I stall have to enter the sudo password?
[10:32] <nesp> yup.. before the exit 0
[10:32] <akatsuki> hello, i connect my laptop to an external monitor... using vga.. and ubuntu didnt load! anyone know how can i fix this?
[10:32] <nesp> yup
[10:32] <IdentityX> Ah
[10:32] <stefano> !list
[10:32] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:33] <IdentityX> So there is no way of getting Ubuntu to remember my mtu? That would be ideal.
[10:33] <nesp> IdentityX: or you can add it in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:34] <nesp> i think that's more ideal
[10:34] <akatsuki> CHE_CHE eres carlos? wazzup
[10:34] <nesp> try "man interfaces" to see examples on how to add it
[10:34] <IdentityX> ok
[10:34] <akatsuki> CHE_CHE wazzup dude.. are you carlos?
[10:34] <blue-frog> brian sorry dunno
[10:34] <DistroJockey> lesshaste: That site should use open formats to publish anyway.
[10:35] <lesshaste> DistroJockey, :)
[10:35] <brian> blue-frog: Ah, dang >.< Thanks anyways.
[10:35] <xx0xx> how to install eBox?
[10:35] <lesshaste> DistroJockey, that's not as simple as it sounds
[10:35] <brian> Anyone else know how I could put a shortcut into the / directory?
[10:35] <akatsuki> xx0xx xbox would not load in ubuntu Imao
[10:35] <akatsuki> what r u talking about
[10:35] <alitis4> hello, i try remove complete the nvidia (modules,glx etc), i tried to reinstall them today, finally i did, but my ubuntu, is not recognize the HT of my pc
[10:35] <xx0xx> akatsuki ;s
[10:36] <alitis4> and also, i can't manage my volume control
[10:36] <akatsuki> jk
[10:36] <alitis4> it diplays some erros
[10:36] <xx0xx> akatsuki i didnt say xbox lmfao
[10:36] <Paavi2_0> brian: i bet you mean symlink. it's quite easy...
[10:36] <DistroJockey> lesshaste: "Exchange ideas, share knowledge." and only give in in a Windows proprietary format. *sighs*
[10:36] <akatsuki> yeh i now
[10:36] <lesshaste> DistroJockey, and using rtmp
[10:36] <DistroJockey> lesshaste: I don't even know what that is :(
[10:36] <akatsuki> hello, i connect my laptop to an external monitor... using vga.. and ubuntu didnt load! anyone know how can i fix this?
[10:36] <Oprtz> hi there
[10:37] <brian> brian: Uh... Whatever Right Click>Make Link does :P I need one of those, and then I put it in /, which I dont have permissions for it says.
[10:37] <Oprtz> got the solution
[10:37] <lesshaste> DistroJockey, it's the way it is streamed..makes it impossible to play outside flash in linux currently
[10:37] <IdentityX> The content in my /etc/network/interfaces is "auto lo <newline> iface lo inet loopback". I can just put append the line to that?
[10:37] <Oprtz> as i already asked u guys that i am getting " initframs " error while installing ubuntu on my 2nd HDD
[10:37] <DistroJockey> lesshaste: they need a good talking to
[10:37] <xx0xx> how to install eBox? http://ebox-platform.com
[10:37] <Oprtz> i remove the HDD and try it on 1st HDD i can use it and now i am chatting from X desktop
[10:38] <lesshaste> DistroJockey, sadly this is very common for free services.. I think they don't have any money for staff so they outsource it to some commercial company who doesn't care
[10:38] <dexem> xx0xx: it's in hardy universe repository
[10:38] <DistroJockey> lesshaste: true :(
[10:39] <nesp> IdentityX: doesn't it have a "iface eth0 inet static?
[10:39] <xx0xx> dexem what version is hardy?
[10:39] <nesp> IdentityX: or something like that..
[10:39] <lesshaste> which plugin for firefox can handle application/x-ms-wmp  ?
[10:39] <dexem> xx0xx: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ebox&searchon=names&suite=hardy&section=all
[10:39] <IdentityX> No.
[10:39] <IdentityX> I'm using wirelss btw
[10:40] <DistroJockey> lesshaste: the only thing I can think of is this:  https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/81
[10:40] <Oprtz> how to fix " initframs " problem of disk ?
[10:40] <IdentityX> eth1 is a wireless USB adapter
[10:40] <nesp> IdentityX: how about eth0?
[10:40] <lesshaste> DistroJockey, ok.. I think mplayer plugin should be able to
[10:40] <IdentityX> I assume my internal ethernet card. But I don't use that anyway.
[10:40] <akatsuki>  hello, i connect my laptop to an external monitor... using vga.. and ubuntu didnt load! anyone know how can i fix this
[10:40] <DistroJockey> lesshaste: yeah, try mplayer first :)
[10:41] <lesshaste> DistroJockey, but I need a newer version than is available for gutsy
[10:41] <DistroJockey> lesshaste: maybe in backports?
[10:41] <lesshaste> DistroJockey, maybe :0
[10:41] <lesshaste> :)
[10:41] <DistroJockey> :)
[10:42] <nesp> IdentityX: ow, i forgot you where using eth1.. try adding "mtu <size>" under the "iface eth1 inet static"
[10:42] <zero> hello
[10:42] <zero> i need some  help
[10:42] <maek> zero shoot
[10:42] <komachat> Hi all , [ Error writing /var/log/apache2/error.log: No such file or directory ] , Shall I create the directory and try again? I would of thought that it would of made all the files and folders when i installed it though ?
[10:42] <zero> maek: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62492/
[10:43] <zero> i get this error when i log in
[10:43] <nesp> IdentityX: at least that's where the manual says it should go :)
[10:43] <maek> Komachat make sure apache has administrative access
[10:43] <IdentityX> nesp: There is no iface static entry for eth1, or eth0 for that matter.
[10:44] <zero> any ideas what might need done so i can fix this?
[10:44] <IdentityX> Just "auto lo <newline> iface lo inet loopback". Nothing else
[10:44] <komachat> maek: then ?
[10:44] <nesp> IdentityX: ow, then i think you're using Network manager to configure your network card..
[10:44] <komachat> maek : ls: /var/log/apache2/error.log: No such file or directory
[10:44] <nesp> i don't know how to set the mtu in Network manager
[10:44] <edp> mtu?
[10:44] <maek> zero it sounds like you don't own your own home directory
[10:45] <nesp> I think you'll just need to use /etc/rc.local :)
[10:45] <zero> maek, how do i fix this?
[10:45] <IdentityX> Ah, but Network SEttings does not have an entry for mtu
[10:46] <zero> maek: if it helps, i know my root PW
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> IdentityX: google for the format of /etc/network/interfaces file. It may help
[10:46] <brian> Paavi2_0: Wow. I sent this a minute ago, to MYSELF. Pretty smart, huh. Heres what I TRIED to send YOU >.> "Uh... Whatever Right Click>Make Link does :P I need one of those, and then I put it in /, which I dont have permissions for it says."
[10:46] <maek> does it let you login zero ??
[10:47] <lesshaste> is it possible to install https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/mplayerplug-in/3.50-1ubuntu2 in gutsy?
[10:47] <wers> i want an alternatie to banshee and rhythmbox. what can you recommend other than exaile? :D (not qt apps please :P :D)
[10:47] <zero> maek: i cant login as root, but i can run terminal as root
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> brian: do it at cli with ln -s <file or folder to link to>
[10:47] <zero> maek actual root, not that sudo crap
[10:47] <DistroJockey> brian: check out the manpage for   ln  and use sudo to get permission
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> brian: with sudo
[10:47] <maek> zero you should be login as a user not as root
[10:48] <zero> maek, i can not login as root
[10:48] <zero> anyway, tahts not my issue
[10:48] <komachat> hey /var/log/apache2/ and  /var/log/apache2/error.log not exists .. Shall I create the directory and try again? the file was just blank..
[10:48] <zero> can you help me get it so i own my home directory maek?
[10:48] <DistroJockey> komachat: may aswell, it's only a temp file anyway
[10:48] <nesp> IdentityX: good.. got so used to text.. i forgot the GUI was usually easier :)
[10:48] <maek> komachat, Apache cannot see those files if it doesn't have administrative access
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> zero: sudo chown<username>  /home/<username>
[10:49] <komachat> thanks maek
[10:49] <brian> ActionParsnip and DistroJockey: Do the what to the who with the sandwich? :( I really have no idea what you guys said... I've gotten the basics of USING Ubuntu down, but anything terminal(Or really, outside firefox and the desktop), I know nothing about.
[10:49] <zero> thanks ActionParsnip
[10:49] <Paavi2_0> brian: "gksu nautilus" will give you the power to do so...i think
[10:49] <zero> ActionParsnip, now the issue is fixed?
[10:50] <IdentityX> nesp: Easier, but lacking in features :(. I'm a real beginner at Linux. If I just describe eth1 as static, do I have to declare the IPs or can I just put mtu 1400 as the only option and use roaming still?
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> zero: you may have achived the issue by running stuff as root. It can damage ownerships. I'd log on as user and run as sudo when you need admin (rare) also running apps as admin is a huge security risk
[10:50] <DistroJockey> brian: man ln   (in a terminal tells you what ln does.  sudo gives root access)
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> brian: wassup?
[10:51] <maek> komachat, try putting "sudo" at the start of the apache commands
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> brian: in konsole type: cd /
[10:51] <sen_> Can I install ubuntu on extend partion (not primary partition)
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> brian: do you know where the app or folder is located?
[10:51] <nesp> IdentityX: the manual says the mtu is for static only..
[10:51] <IdentityX> Yeah, I know...
[10:52] <IdentityX> Ah!
[10:52] <zero> ActionParsnip, same problem
[10:52] <zero> that command didnt fix it
[10:52] <DistroJockey> sen_: yes, you can install it on a logical partition inside the extended partition
[10:52] <IdentityX> What about
[10:52] <brian> ActionParsnip: Ok, did that, and yup, its /home/username/KDX/Server/KDXServer.lexe (Yes, username is my username :)
[10:53] <wers> is it just my computer or is exaile really faster than rhythmbox?
[10:53] <maek> zero what did you type in ??
[10:53] <IdentityX> iface eth1 inet loopback <newline> post-up ifconfig eth1 mtu 1400
[10:53] <zero> sudo chown zero /home/zero
[10:53] <IdentityX> Or is sudo still required?
[10:54] <maek> did it prompt for a password ??
[10:54] <maek> zewro
[10:54] <maek> zero
[10:54] <zero> maek, yeah it did
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> brian: then use ln -s <that stuff you typed>
[10:54] <nesp> sudo's still required
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> brian: that will create a shortcut to the folder Server
[10:55] <IdentityX> ok.
[10:55] <nesp> i mean.. to edit the interfaces file
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> brian: if you use tab you can autocomplete ;)
[10:55] <IdentityX> oh, but when I put that line in.
[10:55] <akatsuki> hi i just install thunar
[10:55] <IdentityX> iface eth1 inet loopback <newline> post-up ifconfig eth1 mtu 1400
[10:55] <IdentityX> Without sudo
[10:55] <akatsuki> but i cant log in with thunar
[10:55] <nesp> no need
[10:55] <IdentityX> Ok
[10:55] <IdentityX> I'll give that a try.
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> brian: ln means link and -s makes it symbolic
[10:56] <zero> maek, can you help me?
[10:56] <brian> ActionParsnip: Ah, ok :) Whats symbolic mean?
[10:56] <yao_ziyuan> how do i disable remote login?
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> brian: if you cd into a symbolic folder you will jump to the place it points
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> brian: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbolic_link
[10:57] <maek> zero ... im seeing if I can .... if any of you other users have any ideas then post it
[10:57] <TamilMinnal> i
[10:57] <lesshaste> is it possible to install https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/mplayerplug-in/3.50-1ubuntu2 in gutsy?
[10:57] <Paavi2_0> brian: symbolic link is almost like shortcut in windows-world
[10:57] <brian> ActionParsnip: Ah, ok. So basically the same as a windows shortcut? I know what it does, just never associated that word with it
[10:57] <brian> Paavi2_0: Ah, ok, thanks :D
[10:58] <nesp> IdentityX: for more info.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConfigurationCommandLine
[10:58] <maek> zero go to your home directory and hit CTRL - H
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> brian: there are hard links too but symlink does most jobs
[10:58] <brian> DistroJockey: Thanks for that :D Would have done the trick(Had ActionParsnip not guided me through it :)
[10:59] <arvind_khadri> hi cant install flashplugin-nonfree
[10:59] <DistroJockey> brian: np, I like to help people help themselves, unless they are really stuck :)
[10:59] <AliRezaTaleghani> hello room,  i have an other simple problem, with pidgin,  i don't know why no buddy can see the my status photo??
[10:59] <zero> maek ok im there
[10:59] <lesshaste> arvind_khadri, what's the problem?
[10:59] <maek> zero then right click on the .dmrc file and select properties then permissions ... make sure its read and write for all of them
[11:00] <arvind_khadri> lesshaste, it says the package has been moved
[11:00] <lesshaste> oh
[11:00] <maek> zero sorry make sure that the permissions are set only for the owner and not the group or others
[11:00] <maek> zero Owner zero = read and write
[11:01] <maek> then hit OK zero
[11:01] <zero> maek, its already set to taht
[11:01] <s_> elo
[11:01] <maek> what are you logged in as zero ... zero or root ??
[11:01] <s_> anybody in?
[11:01] <cptcirss> hey i can not compile using make on ubuntu 7.01
[11:02] <zero> zero, maek, i cant login as root
[11:02] <maek> only as zero ??
[11:02] <zero> maek,  yea
[11:02] <arvind_khadri> cptcirss, yes u can and its 7.10
[11:03] <arvind_khadri> cptcirss,wats the error u r getting
[11:03] <cptcirss> i am compiling it using sudo
[11:03] <maek> have you ever logged in as root graphically zero ??
[11:03] <s_> when downloading smthng,WXDOWNLOAD-FAST shuts itself and stops downloading.so any settings problem?
[11:04] <zero> maek, ubuntu wont let you login graphically as root
[11:04] <arvind_khadri> cptcirss, u need to configure first
[11:04] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, u there??
[11:04] <cptcirss> :-) i am doing that
[11:05] <maek> sudo chown 644 ~/.dmrc   <<---- Zero try that command
[11:05] <arvind_khadri> cptcirss, did u get any error messages while configuring???
[11:06] <xx0xx> can anyone help me with dns?
[11:06] <cptcirss> chmode: changing permissinon of  './snddevices': operation not permitted
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> xx0xx: wassup?
[11:06] <zero> maek, ok i used the command, entered my PW and then nothing, it just went back to command line,
[11:06] <s_> when downloading smthng,WXDOWNLOAD-FAST shuts itself and stops downloading.so any settings problem?
[11:06] <arvind_khadri> cptcirss, use sudo
[11:07] <xx0xx> ActionParsnip i am newbie with setting up dns
[11:07] <xx0xx> name server
[11:07] <zero> i think i gotta reboot for it to take effect, yea?
[11:07] <cptcirss> this was after using sudo
[11:08] <arvind_khadri> cptcirss, are you you the only user of the system
[11:08] <maek> zero this thread might give you some ideas  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=371052
[11:08] <xx0xx> ERGH no one here to help me
[11:08] <cptcirss> yap arvind
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> xx0xx:  I said wassup.
[11:08] <zero> maek thanks
[11:08] <arvind_khadri> cptcirss, and look whether whatever permissions you are changing for the file belongs to u only
[11:09] <maek> np zero
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> xx0xx: what is your issue with DNS?
[11:09] <cptcirss> no files are in root permission and i want them to be executable
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> cptcirss: chmod +x <file>
[11:10] <arvind_khadri> cptcirss, do u have root powers??
[11:11] <arvind_khadri> cptcirss, chmod -u +x <file>
[11:12] <cptcirss> yap arvind
[11:12] <arvind_khadri> cptcirss, i guess u need to be sudo for tat
[11:12] <cptcirss> yap
[11:12] <arvind_khadri> cptcirss, so were u able to do it??
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> arvind_khadri: if you are the owner of the file than no
[11:12] <lesshaste> is it possible to install https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/mplayerplug-in/3.50-1ubuntu2 in gutsy?
[11:12] <arvind_khadri> ActionParsnip, yeah i know,but he isnt the owner :)
[11:12] <the_alamo> is there some sort of howto for installing pulseaudio 0.9.10?
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> lesshaste: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install mplayerplug-in
[11:13] <lesshaste> ActionParsnip, that's 3.40
[11:13] <cptcirss> i get this
[11:13] <cptcirss> criss@rocker:/windows/Audio/alsa-driver-1.0.10rc3$ make
[11:13] <cptcirss> if [ ! -d include/sound -a ! -L include/sound ]; then \
[11:13] <cptcirss>           ln -sf ../alsa-kernel/include include/sound ; \
[11:13] <cptcirss>         fi
[11:13] <cptcirss> ln: creating symbolic link `include/sound' to `../alsa-kernel/include': Operation not permitted
[11:13] <FloodBot3> cptcirss: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:13] <cptcirss> make: *** [include/sound/version.h] Error 1
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> !paste | cptcirss
[11:13] <ubotu> cptcirss: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[11:13] <lesshaste> ActionParsnip, which doesn't support the mime type application/x-ms-wmp it seems
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> lesshaste: get win32codecs
[11:14] <lesshaste> ActionParsnip, I have that... you can check by doing about:plugins
[11:14] <xx0xx> ActionParsnip any idea?
[11:14] <xx0xx> about dns?
[11:14] <arvind_khadri> ActionParsnip, i cant install flash non free ones...says package moved
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> xx0xx: you havent stated any issues?
[11:15] <apoorv> hello guys, i have this sound card "Yamaha", but i am having no sound. in dmesg this is the error i am getting " ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:02:02.0 disabled" "Yamaha DS-1 PCI: probe of 0000:02:02.0 failed with error -16". GUYS HELP :'(
[11:15] <xx0xx> i did
[11:15] <xx0xx> but everyone like to ignore it
[11:15] <xx0xx> i dont know how to setup dns(name server ie. ns.something.com)
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> xx0xx: I just scrolled up and cant see any text
[11:15] <apoorv> I have compiled yamaha firmware, have alsa-tools, have compiled alsa from alsa website, and have tried changing kernels.
[11:16] <lesshaste> ActionParsnip, video/x-ms-wmp is there but not the mime type I need
[11:16] <arvind_khadri> ActionParsnip, any work around??
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> apoorv: have you googled any?
[11:16] <xx0xx> Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems,
[11:16] <apoorv> Yes , for last three days.
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> arvind_khadri: chown?
[11:16] <cptcirss> well how to paste in paste bin
[11:17] <arvind_khadri> ActionParsnip, nope :) or the missing flash non free plugins
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> cptcirss: put tecxt in the pastebin and hit paste, then look at the address bar and paste the url in here
[11:18] <apoorv> ActionParsnip: I think i am having acpi related prblem  "ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:02:02.0 disabled" << In dmesg
[11:18] <smithey93> how can i partision a drive in ubuntu?
[11:18] <arvind_khadri> smithey93, use gparted
[11:18] <smithey93> arvind_khadri: is it allready installed?
[11:19] <the_alamo> has anyone installed pulseaudio 0.9.10?  how did you do it?
[11:19] <alitis4> before i remove some modules, my ubuntu, supports HT, now which i remove them, at System Monitor, i see only 1 core
[11:19] <alitis4> how i can fix this
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> apoorv: can we have an output of lspci please
[11:19] <arvind_khadri> smithey93, no u need to get it...sudo apt-get install gparted
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> !paste | apoorv
[11:19] <ubotu> apoorv: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[11:19] <smithey93> avind_khadri: im installing it now thanks, is it command line or gui
[11:19] <arvind_khadri> ActionParsnip, :(( how to find the flash plugin non free
[11:19] <apoorv> ActionParsnip, i am doing that
[11:20] <arvind_khadri> smithey93, its a GUI one
[11:20] <smithey93> avind_khadri: dont matter its working :) ty
[11:20] <cptcirss> criss@rocker:/windows/Audio/alsa-driver-1.0.10rc3$ make
[11:20] <cptcirss>  if [ ! -d include/sound -a ! -L include/sound ]; then
[11:20] <cptcirss>            ln -sf ../alsa-kernel/include include/sound ;
[11:20] <cptcirss>        fi ln: creating symbolic link `include/sound' to `../alsa-kernel/include': Operation not permitted
[11:20] <cptcirss>  make: *** [include/sound/version.h] Error 1
[11:20] <FloodBot3> cptcirss: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:20] <smithey93> can i partision my external drive with it? like my external harddrive
[11:20] <arvind_khadri> smithey93 congrats
[11:20] <arvind_khadri> smithey93 yeah you can
[11:21] <smithey93> thanks :-) its "scanning for drives"
[11:21] <arvind_khadri> smithey93, i think so,not sure,u can always google :)
[11:21] <apoorv> ActionParsnip : lspci :- http://pastebin.com/mb94a682
[11:21] <smithey93> google is a good tool :D
[11:21] <arvind_khadri> cptcirss, use paste to give us the URL...
[11:22] <Co_Rush> SEMARANG
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> apoorv: this may help some http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=437526
[11:22] <icesword> lol
[11:23] <icesword> hi,channel
[11:23] <cptcirss> got it http://pastebin.com/m4d083e5b
[11:24] <apoorv> ActionParsnip, i dont think that will help. As when i do aplay -l this is what i get "aplay: device_list:207: no soundcards found..."
[11:24] <cptcirss> well question stays there i cant compile with sudo ./configure; make
[11:24] <cptcirss> got it http://pastebin.com/m4d083e5b
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> apoorv: then your sound card is not properly configured
[11:25] <icesword> cptcirss, sudo make & make install
[11:26] <apoorv> Then how can i do that, also is this : " Yamaha DS-1 PCI: probe of 0000:02:02.0 failed with error -16" normal  ?
[11:26] <apoorv> ActionParsnip: Then how can i do that, also is this : " Yamaha DS-1 PCI: probe of 0000:02:02.0 failed with error -16" normal  ?
[11:26] <cptcirss> well i am doing so and i am getting this problem  http://pastebin.com/m4d083e5b
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> apoorv: get googling my lad :). I'll give you a hand
[11:27] <icesword> cptcirss, sudo make install
[11:27] <apoorv> OK dude, :)
[11:28] <row_> I used wvdial to setup a ppp session via my nokia n95, works fine yet kde is not seeing it I presume because wvdial set up ppp interface, what is best way to get it to show
[11:28] <row_> so konq etc works
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> apoorv: you need to add some modules dude
[11:28] <row_> internet def works however tested on irssi/aptitude
[11:28] <arvind_khadri> cptcirss, do u have build-essential???
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> apoorv: open your /etc/modules file
[11:28] <apoorv> well i have all the modules for "ymfpci" loaded, that shows in lsmod, shall i give you its output (pastebin) ?
[11:28] <jaffarkelshac> when i start my computer, compiz.real takes up all my system resources for a long time. why is that and will uninstalling compiz fusion fixed this.
[11:28] <cptcirss> yap
[11:29] <apoorv> OK, editing /etc/modules
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> apoorv: does it have snd-ymfpci= Yamaha DS1/DS1E in it?
[11:29] <arvind_khadri> cptcirss, wat are you trying to install???
[11:29] <apoorv> no
[11:29] <row_> aj
[11:29] <row_> disable network manager
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> apoorv: this is why. Its also in that link i sent you
[11:29] <xtreme> I am trying to install https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_cat83-inst.html (ATI Proprietary Linux Installer) and its says "Enter the command  ati-driver-installer-8.3-x86.x86_64.run to launch the ATI Proprietary Linux driver installer." but when I enter ati-driver-installer-8.3-x86.x86_64.run I get the messge "Command not found". Why?
[11:30] <apoorv> does it have to be exactly like this "snd-ymfpci= Yamaha DS1/DS1E"
[11:30] <apoorv> ?
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> apoorv: you'll need gksudo or kdesu to edit it
[11:30] <icesword> xtreme, ./
[11:30] <cptcirss> even this is also about sound on amd ad1981 ubuntu 7.10
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> apoorv: yes
[11:30] <arvind_khadri> cptcirss, hey you need to type sudo make not jus make!!!!
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> apoorv:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToSetupSoundCards
[11:30] <icesword> sudo make love
[11:30] <icesword> lol
[11:30] <cptcirss> i tried guys
[11:30] <apoorv> OK dude i will follow that link's instruction, i will be back after doing that .
[11:30] <Intertricity> Hey, I'm considering ubuntu server install for an old 256mb 800mhz machine
[11:30] <arvind_khadri> icesword, :)
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> icesword: except for gui apps
[11:30] <Intertricity> do you think it will run pretty zippy on that or no?
[11:31] <icesword> lol
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> Intertricity: should be fine
[11:31] <GOfree> Hi, I have a quick question...
[11:31] <DistroJockey> jaffarkelshac: Not sure why, but try going to  System - Preferences - Appearance - Visual Effects  and change it to None
[11:31] <Intertricity> Cool, I want to use it as a remote dev environment
[11:31] <Intertricity> for programming in C and python
[11:31] <arvind_khadri> cptcirss, then paste the output of sudo ./configure use paste!!!
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> Intertricity: yeah absolutely
[11:32] <Intertricity> oah excellent x3! Thanks :)
[11:32] <icesword> cptcirss, what are trying to compile
[11:32] <Intertricity> I've been wanting to tinker around in the console and learn the guts for a while
[11:32] <icesword> you
[11:32] <xtreme> when I use ./ I get "the file or folder does not exists", but I can see it when I type ls and its correct name
[11:33] <icesword> xtreme, chmod +x file
[11:33] <jaffarkelshac> DistroJockey, it was already on off, just turned it back on.
[11:33] <cptcirss> i get this after sudo ./configure http://pastebin.com/d5fb5a5b2
[11:33] <DistroJockey> jaffarkelshac: oh, did that help?
[11:33] <forensti_> i have a pci tv card, (philips alpha) but that dont work with linux i think. can any one give advice to which new tv card should i buy that will work and is easily available (welknown)?
[11:33] <cptcirss> iceword alsa driver
[11:34] <LeGreffi3R> cptcirss> NEVER do your configure with sudo
[11:34] <GOfree> With the command "sudo apt-get update", I get the messages: "could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open" and "could not open lock file /var.../lock". Anyone?
[11:34] <LeGreffi3R> cptcirss> do "sudo make clean",
[11:34] <cptcirss> ok
[11:35] <LeGreffi3R> cptcirss> then re-run the configure script WITHOUT sudo
[11:35] <cptcirss> ok i did it
[11:35] <GOfree> what is a lock file?
[11:35] <Paavi2_0> GOfree: do you happen to have a copy of update-manager, aptitude or synaptic running?
[11:35] <Co_KEREN_OK> SEMARANG
[11:36] <icesword> ./configure --verbose,if it is,see ./configure --help
[11:36] <cptcirss> still same problems
[11:36] <Kenichiro> #Feel
[11:37] <icesword> cptcirss, ./configure --help
[11:37] <DistroJockey> cptcirss: did you follow the read.me that came with the download?
[11:37] <tomly> hi
[11:37] <GOfree> Paavi2_0: No, all front ends are closed.
 i will restart and see if that works. :)
[11:37] <cptcirss> i am trying to install the alsa drivers came with my mother Bord cd
[11:38] <forensti_> i have a pci tv card, (philips alpha) but that dont work with linux i think. can any one give advice to which new tv card should i buy that will work and is easily available (welknown)?
[11:38] <cptcirss> and i am doing exactly as told
[11:39] <LeGreffi3R> cptcirss> as far as i see, the configuration is OK, so go to the 'make' step
[11:39] <Paavi2_0> GOfree: and no other processes doing deb-stuff are running?
[11:39] <LeGreffi3R> cptcirss> this was just the sudo , if the make clean xorked, there should be no problème
[11:39] <LeGreffi3R> problem
[11:39] <LeGreffi3R> excuse my english :)
[11:40] <GOfree> Paavi2_0:Not that I know of. How can I make sure?
[11:40] <cptcirss> i get this after make http://pastebin.com/m4d083e5b
[11:41] <apoorv> ActionParsnit: that did not help :(
[11:41] <|ismael|> i was doing a work in aboword and to change the letter it delete.i can recovery it?sorry for my english...
[11:41] <|ismael|> abiword
[11:41] <Co_KEREN_OK> SURABAYA
[11:41] <icesword> cptcirss, SUDO!!!
[11:41] <apoorv> ActionParsnip: that did not help :(
[11:41] <LeGreffi3R> cptcirss> you're on a FAT/NTFS partition?
[11:41] <Paavi2_0> GOfree: run: top
[11:41] <cptcirss> fat
[11:42] <cptcirss> fat32
[11:42] <icesword> ?
[11:42] <LeGreffi3R> cptcirss> this won't work (you can't make sym-links)
[11:42] <DistroJockey> cptcirss: can you even cd to  ../alsa-kernel/include  from where you are?
[11:42] <LeGreffi3R> cptcirss> do this on a regular linux partition.
[11:42] <cptcirss> k
[11:44] <GOfree> Paavi2_0: Hmmm...in the terminal?!  I get: "run: command not found"
[11:44] <forensti___> i have a pci tv card, (philips alpha) but that dont work with linux i think. can any one give advice to which new tv card should i buy that will work and is easily available (welknown)?
[11:44] <forensti___> what link should i click? if i use cable tv. i only need to see DVB-C devices (Digital Cable TV)
[11:44] <Paavi2_0> GOfree: type "top"
[11:44] <icesword> forensti_, follow the instrutions of it?
[11:44] <Paavi2_0> GOfree: sorry, i wasn't being very clear
[11:44] <Duskin> test
[11:45] <GOfree> Paavi2_0: Ok...that's cool. What should I look for?
[11:46] <Paavi2_0> GOfree: apt-cache, apt-get, synaptic, aptitude, update-manager, debconf...
[11:46] <Paavi2_0> GOfree: if you don
[11:47] <raju>  how i knew my SDcard is connected with my laptop
[11:47] <Paavi2_0> ouch, GOfree, if you do not find those, then try using apt-get again
[11:48] <GOfree> Paavi2_0: Nope. None of those.
[11:48] <cptcirss> this is i get when i do sudo make on a linux partition http://pastebin.com/d262772cf
[11:48] <GOfree> Paavi2_0: I am getting a user "haldaemo" which seems strange.
[11:49] <GOfree> [retrying apt-get]
[11:49] <Paavi2_0> GOfree: it's not strange
[11:50] <Paavi2_0> GOfree: without haldaemo your devices wouldn't co-operate with the kernel :)
[11:50] <pzn> Hi, I need some help with ubuntu wireless. it is configured to "roaming" (i dont know what it is). If I click on network icon (near to clock), fill in ssid and personal wpa, it connects ok. at next reboot I have to click icon and fill them again... how to save them for home and work networks? I'd like them to auto-connect
[11:50] <GOfree> Paavi2_0: Oh, okay. That's interesting.
[11:51] <johansja> i know it is weird to ask this question here. But is there any minime version for ubuntu? I mean something like pclinuxos minime 2008.
[11:51] <apoorv> Hello guys, i am having issue with one of the PCI card on my desktop.  Iget this error in my dmesg "ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:02:02.0 disabled Yamaha DS-1" "PCI: probe of 0000:02:02.0 failed with error -16", and when i do aplay -l i get this "aplay: device_list:207: no soundcards found...". I have modules for yamaha "snd-ymfpci" loaded. Tried compiling latest alsa from their website.
[11:51] <GOfree> Bingo! I got the apt-get update.
[11:51] <GOfree> ...or 99%?!
[11:51] <DistroJockey> pzn: do you get an area that has a strength of connection bar?
[11:52] <cptcirss> sound dies on amd ad1981A after a adjust volume
[11:52] <unop__> cptcirss, run this command and try again.  sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[11:52] <Paavi2_0> johansja: you mean a minimalist installation with a lightweight window manager? xubuntu?
[11:53] <GOfree> "Could not connect to... connection timed out..." Command line is waiting...
[11:53] <pzn> DistroJockey: yes, after connecting it has strength. before connecting it is a network icon that I click to fill in ssid/wpa
[11:54] <johansja> Paavi2_0: i mean ubuntu that comes with no pre-installed program but just the core gnome and others.
[11:54] <GOfree> hmm...
[11:54] <DistroJockey> pzn: I read somewhere that clicking on the signal strength bar and then entering the details works better. (Hope that helps, never tried or tested.)
[11:54] <GOfree> Paavi2_0: Things are still acting weird.
[11:55] <Paavi2_0> GOfree: reboot, that's my standard solution :)
[11:55] <linduxed> if ive added "ndiswrapper" to the end of /etc/modules, how do i prevent the "iwl4965", "iwlwifi_mac80211" and "cfg80211" to load? (theyre not in /etc/modules)
[11:55] <GOfree> Paavi2_0: Ok. Well thanks, Paavi2_0.
[11:55] <Paavi2_0> johansja: that would contradict the basic idea of ubuntu
[11:56] <GOfree> That "top" command is great.
[11:56] <GOfree> Gotta run.
[11:56] <GOfree> Leaving
[11:56] <GOfree> bye
[11:56] <fsckr> johansja, I may be mistaken since I haven't run ubuntu for a bit but i think the ubuntu server .iso you can install what you want.
[11:56] <unop__> linduxed, add them in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[11:57] <johansja> Paavi2_0: what do you mean?
[11:57] <unop__> linduxed, also make sure they aren't in any other file in /etc/modprobe.d .. comment them out if they are
[11:58] <xtreme> cant start ati-driver-installer-8.3-x86.x86_64.run. ati-driver-installer-8.3-x86.x86_64.run notworking,  sudo sh  ati-driver-installer-8.3-x86.x86_64.run notworking and I have ight permission
[11:58] <xtreme> right
[11:58] <xtreme> ./ is not working
[11:58] <cptcirss> done
[11:58] <icesword> xtreme, chmod +x file?this one,tried yet
[11:59] <cptcirss> unop_ now cant change the volume :-)
[11:59] <unop__> cptcirss, that's beyond me really, sorry, i just helped you with the make problem you had there :)
[12:00] <xtreme> why cant I start the installhttps://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_cat83-inst.html
[12:00] <LetsGo67> My computer is all messed up.  It won't roam wireless Internet automatically because it claims to have "manual configuration settings".  Can someone help me please?
[12:00] <cptcirss> did we re installed it with the linux hederes or ..
[12:01] <xtreme> icesword, what do you meen? chmod +x  ati-driver-installer-8.3-x86.x86_64.run. Don't understand
[12:01] <xtreme> what is x?
[12:01] <icesword> xtreme, yaaa,run that command
[12:01] <DistroJockey> xtreme: type:  man chmod   in a terminal
[12:01] <icesword> xtreme, man chmod
[12:01] <LetsGo67> My computer is all messed up.  It won't roam wireless Internet automatically because it claims to have "manual configuration settings".  Can someone help me please?
[12:02] <LeGreffi3R> xtreme> x is the name of the bit that tells the system this file should act like a .exe (for a file)
[12:02] <Coggz> where do i add lines to rc.local? before anything
[12:03] <icesword> /etc/init/
[12:03] <cptcirss> hey sound dies again when i change the volume with alsa mixer gui
[12:03] <Coggz> no i mean in the file itself, is there any where that i need to put it?
[12:04] <Kommwths> hello guys can someone help me to instal audio codex for VLC media player?
[12:04] <lwizardl> how do i enable stereo sound on a nforce2 board?
[12:04] <pajamian> Coggz: before the "exit 0" line
[12:04] <Kenichiro> Can Any One Help Me using irc bouncer on shell ?
[12:05] <humbolto> is there a top for hdd access? where I can see which app is causing all this HDD IO?
[12:05] <Coggz> ?? it says exit 3
[12:05] <pajamian> Coggz: ok, before that line
[12:05] <Coggz> but thee
[12:05] <Coggz> there is two
[12:05] <pajamian> Coggz: the default script is empty with an exit 0 at the end
[12:05] <pajamian> Coggz: so if there's something else it has been altered already.
[12:07] <Coggz> hmm... i have never atered ithttp://pastebin.com/m65e3a031
[12:07] <Kommwths> hello guys can someone help me to instal audio codex for VLC media player?
[12:07] <Coggz> oops, http://pastebin.com/m65e3a031
[12:07] <Adantan_Alex> hi
[12:07] <Adantan_Alex> ok
[12:07] <lwizardl> linux is reporting that I have 2 sound cards that work as a pair and I'm only getting right speaker working
[12:08] <pzn> DistroJockey: ok, tried some options... now will have to reboot to test them
[12:08] <pajamian> Coggz: that's not rc.local
[12:08] <Coggz> really?
[12:08] <gatestone> Do the kernel and user processes have distinct virtual addresses? Two user processes have the same virtual addresses anyway (from 0x0 an up)?
[12:09] <pajamian> Coggz: nope. that's the script that rc.local is run from.
[12:09] <Adantan_Alex> hmmmm
[12:09] <gatestone> What virtual addresses does the kernel see? 0x0 up or something else?
[12:09] <johansja> can i choose what program to be installed in ubuntu when I am installing?
[12:09] <Coggz> aha, i found the real one now...
[12:09] <Adantan_Alex> ok
[12:10] <Coggz> how do i get the system to reload that file?
[12:10] <hikejinx> Kommwths: what are you trying to install? I think you just copy it to /usr/lib/vlc/codec
[12:11] <DistroJockey> johansja: that would involve editing the install files. Maybe remastersys is worth looking at?
[12:11] <pajamian> Coggz: it runs that file at boot time.
[12:11] <Kommwths> hikejinx i just dont know where to find the codecs
[12:11] <hikejinx> which codec Kommwths
[12:11] <Kommwths> dunno thats what am trying to find what shall i use ;p
[12:12] <elusif> i plan to put my first linux installation on a western digital raptor 150g 10,000 rpm hdd - is there any reason i shouldn't do this?
[12:12] <hikejinx> Kommwths: what type of file are you trying to play. what is the filename?
[12:12] <Kommwths> its a dvd
[12:12] <Kommwths> i have image but no sound
[12:12] <Frogzoo> elusif: just be sure to make a separate /home partition, makes reinstalls so much easier
[12:12] <Adantan_Alex> !hardware kommwths
[12:13] <Adantan_Alex> !hardware | kommwths
[12:13] <ubotu> kommwths: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[12:13] <elusif> frogzoo - how do i do this?
[12:13] <hikejinx> !codecs
[12:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:13] <Coggz> kk, pajamian thanks for the help,
[12:13] <pajamian> Coggz: yw
[12:13] <Frogzoo> elusif: there's a manual partitioning option
[12:14] <hikejinx> !restricted | Kommwths
[12:14] <ubotu> Kommwths: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:14] <Kommwths> ill give it a try
[12:15] <hikejinx> Kommwths: it should get you started. I usually just install ubuntu-restricted-extras and get everything I need
[12:15] <Kommwths> yeh
[12:15] <DistroJockey> elusif: can't see why there would be any problem (btw, that'll fly :) )
[12:15] <Kommwths> ill try it
[12:16] <elusif> frogzoo - ty, how large should i make this /home partition?
[12:16] <elusif> ya that's why i'm buying it distrojockey :)
[12:16] <DistroJockey> elusif: :)
[12:16] <pajamian> Kommwths: ubuntu-restricted-extras like hikejinx said, plus w32codecs from medibuntu (and of course libdvdcss2 for dvds)
[12:17] <elusif> i have a regular hdd now vista is on and i need it for warcraft, i don't want to delete the vista i have until i can run warcraft on ubuntu properly :)
[12:17] <Duskin> anyone know of a program that works like speedfan, basically monitoring pc temps?
[12:17] <luke> Duskin: gkrellm
[12:17] <elusif> i'm gonna get a second raptor for a fresh vista install for some games, and use this hdd for storage
[12:17] <Duskin> elusif: i play wow on my linux box and it runs great
[12:17] <Kommwths> pajmian downloading them now all
[12:17] <elusif> ya
[12:17] <elusif> so i hear :)
[12:17] <Frogzoo> elusif: I would say, leave 20gig for /, give yourself a 2gig swap partition, and the rest /home
[12:17] <DistroJockey> elusif: always good to make sure you can do what you need :)
[12:17] <Duskin> luke: thx ^^
[12:17] <elusif> which is one reason i'm getting unbuntu
[12:17] <killuats> hi all!
[12:18] <elusif> what is /?
[12:18] <CroX> I just now had a power shutdown and when electricity came back and I booted my computer, Ubuntu goes into "low graphics mode". For some reason it's removed my nvidia card from the "restricted drivers" but neither enabling it again there nor selecting nvidia driver before the boot screen seems to work..
[12:18] <DistroJockey> elusif: the root of everything
[12:18] <elusif> bear in midn the drive is 150g
[12:18] <Duskin> elusif: the newest version of wine runs wow faster then my vista box did
[12:18] <elusif> nice :)
[12:18] <yaselmane> Hi to all
[12:18] <icesword> lol
[12:19] <elusif> ok guys ty, i'll be back when i have my raptor
[12:19] <pajamian> Kommwths: also, if you use the Totem player (the default one) you'll want gstreamer0.10-pitfdll which allows it to read the windows codecs.
[12:19] <elusif> oh and, which version of unbunu should i download?
[12:19] <DistroJockey> elusif: if you can wait 16 days, get Hardy
[12:20] <DistroJockey> elusif: 8.04 that is
[12:20] <Coggz> pajamian: how do i make rc.local active,
[12:20] <pajamian> Coggz: sudo chmod 755 /etc/rc.local
[12:20] <gatestone> How can kernel and user space share memory, if both are running in separate virtual memory spaces? If kernel reads address X, is it its own X or some user process X?
[12:20] <pajamian> Coggz: though it should have that setting already
[12:21] <killuats> how do i fix my screen resolution? my laptop can have 1280x800 screen resolution, but i accidentally change my resolution to 1024x768 using displayconfig-gtk, now i'm try to revert my screen, but there's no 1280x800 on the selection, how do i fix my settings?
[12:21] <Coggz> hmm, does it need to have #!/bin/sh -e uncommented
[12:22] <pajamian> gatestone: I think that's off topic for this channel but it boils down to various run levels in the CPU and how the kernel controls them.
[12:22] <elusif> DistroJockey: why, will updating from 8.03 to hardy be a pain?
[12:22] <DistroJockey> killuats: was there a backup made when you changed? Might be called  /etc/X11/xorg.conf~
[12:22] <elusif> i should have the hdd in about 10day (ordering thursday)
[12:23] <pajamian> Coggz: no, that's supposed to start with a #
[12:23] <Coggz> ok
[12:23] <pajamian> Coggz: just add your line before the exit 0 line
[12:23] <DistroJockey> elusif: from 8.04 beta to release, may have many updates
[12:23] <killuats> DistroJockey: i'll look for a backup.
[12:23] <DistroJockey> elusif: but should work (but I always prefer clean installs)
[12:24] <Duskin> elusif: even if you decide to install 7.10, the updates wont be a pain at all
[12:24] <jimcooncat>  What kind of filesystem could I install that would automatically mirror to another host? I'm familiar with stuff like sshfs.
[12:24] <Alexx> wow
[12:24] <Duskin> elusif: if you are used to windows updates, you'll find updating in linux to be a breath of fresh air
[12:25] <Alexx> lol i see
[12:25] <DistroJockey> jimcooncat: rsync  might be worth a look
[12:25] <jimcooncat> DistroJockey: I'd have to get my users to run rsync after every change, though, right?
[12:26] <DistroJockey> jimcooncat:  not sure on that part of it
[12:26] <Adantan_Alex> hmmmm
[12:26] <pajamian> jimcooncat: you can get them to put it in a cron job
[12:27] <DistroJockey> jimcooncat: rsync + svn  maybe?
[12:27] <jimcooncat> thanks pajamian, not really what I'm looking for though, I need to update realtime
[12:27] <mickpc> 	
[12:27] <mickpc> #ubuntu-au
[12:27] <criXtiano> hi friends, good morning. Please, what's the difference between "emacs (client)" and "emacs (X11)" ???
[12:28] <pajamian> jimcooncat: then rsync is still the way to go, just set up a script to log into each of the other computers via ssh and run rsync after an update.
[12:28] <jimcooncat> pajamian: I suppose I could have a daemon like monit watch for file changes
[12:30] <elusif> DistroJockey: ok i will wait for 8.04 - but i am install linux this time! :) ty
[12:30] <pajamian> jimcooncat: it would be something like: for x in list of user@hosts; do ssh $x rsync blah blah; done
[12:30] <DistroJockey> elusif: you're welcome. It will be worth the wait :)
[12:31] <elusif> can i format the raptor with windows when i get it and install it? or should i only install the new drive when i'm installing 8.04?
[12:31] <rahaman> #connect
[12:31] <elusif> then just plug in the drive, put in 8.04 cd and restart pc?
[12:32] <DistroJockey> elusif: the installer should do the partitioning right. I suggest disconnecting the Windows drive and installing on the raptor
[12:32] <Smegzor> I have two broken packages and the error is saying its trying to overwrite a png file that is shared by another package.  one of the broken packages is python-launchpad-integration.  Whats the best fix?  I tried reinstalling in synaptic but that didn't work.
[12:32] <pajamian> elusif: make sure that the CMOS settings are set to boot to the CDROM drive
[12:33] <Smegzor> the other broken package is lblpint-bonobo0
[12:33] <DistroJockey> elusif: then after you have installed Ubuntu, you can plug the Windows drive in and tell Grub from the Ubuntu install where to boot Windows from. (nice way to dual boot)
[12:33] <Dr_willis> Smegzor,  ive often delet4ed the file that both are trying to overwrite.. not the best fix i guess.. :)
[12:34] <Dr_willis> had to do that the other day for some silly icon file.
[12:34] <Smegzor> its a png.  I'll try renaming it.
[12:34] <Kommwths> pajamian?
[12:34] <pajamian> Kommwths: yes?
[12:34] <Smegzor> the updater should then be able to do its thing I hope.
[12:35] <Smegzor> does the updater keep a log and whats it called?
[12:36] <Kommwths> pajamian i downloaded and installed them but nothing. anw i tryed to install xine and gssteamer for totem codecs but totem it says " Totem could not play 'dvd:///media/cdrom0'." "There is no plugin to handle this movie."
[12:36] <pajamian> Kommwths: did you install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll?
[12:37] <Kommwths> yeh
[12:37] <pajamian> Kommwths: well, those are all the things I install and rarely if ever have problems.
[12:37] <pajamian> Kommwths: I have to run off for a bit, though, maybe someone else can give you a hand
[12:38] <Kommwths> check this out. when i instal  gstreamer0.10-pitfdll it says :
[12:38] <Kommwths> gstreamer0.10-pitfdll is already the newest version.
[12:38] <Kommwths> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[12:38] <Kommwths>   libmono-sharpzip0.84-cil libplot2c2 vim-gui-common libdv-bin hugin-data blt
[12:38] <Kommwths>   libswscale1d ffmpeg poster libpano12-0 libdjconsole-data psutils tk8.4
[12:38] <Kommwths>   vim-runtime libimlib2 libgdiplus
[12:38] <FloodBot3> Kommwths: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:38] <Kommwths> thall i remove them ?
[12:38] <ghostlines> how do you cancel a irssi transfer ?
[12:41] <the_giver> anyone here know if its possible to use finch in screen.. but in turn also tie in the graphical GUI of pidgin to the finch session running inside of ur screen session (so they are always "insynch" and not so pidging just asks finch for info... )
[12:41] <ricanelite> anyone here uses Suns "Project Looking Glass"
[12:41] <selinuxium> Has anyone here managed to connect to a BorderManager VPN with Ubuntu ?
[12:43] <Dr_willis> ricanelite,  That thing has never been very 'useable' :)
[12:44] <Dr_willis> ricanelite,  more of a test bed for ideas, and showing off things demo.
[12:44] <icesword>  i am using xchat,what is that lags 1.0s mean
[12:44] <icesword> lag 1.0s
[12:44] <Pici> icesword: It means that its taking 1 second for the stuff you type to get to the irc server and vice versa.
[12:44] <ricanelite> i bet
[12:45] <ricanelite> i saw the video for the first time
[12:45] <ricanelite> it looks nice
[12:45] <icesword> Pici, thx,what about yours,mine is so slow
[12:45] <ricanelite> but i know from reading on sites it never works
[12:45] <ricanelite> lol
[12:45] <elusif> pajaman: ty
[12:45] <Pici> icesword: I'm not using xchat, and mine is less than a second currently.  It doesnt show it if its that low on this client.
[12:45] <icesword> see
[12:46] <Kommwths> damn i wont get my dvd player work anyone can realy help me ?:/ ( i installed all codecs but i cant get any sound while i watch dvds) anyone ?:/
[12:46] <elusif> Distrojockey: after i install ubuntu and i connect the windows drive to tell gurb where to boot windows from, is ubuntu running, or do i restart when connectiing the drive? also, is it easy to find this 'grub'?
[12:46]  * elusif is taking notes
[12:46] <ricanelite> is it possible that either my xbox 360 or ps3 could see the music/pictures/videos that i have in my linux machine
[12:46] <wers> does adblock plus work on firefox 3 beta 5 for you?
[12:47] <wers> doesnt work for me
[12:47] <Dr_willis> elusif,  if the windows drive was not hooked  up while installing linux, you will need to add a entry to the grub menus for it.
[12:47] <tactikalnuke> grub's are elusive little creatures...you can often find them under dark, moist areas though!
[12:47] <pajamian> Kommwths: you added the medibuntu repository and installed libdvdcss2, right?
[12:47] <ricanelite> like for instance in windows when i turned on either my xbox 360 or ps3 windows saw it and from there if I had a video on my computer I could play it on my ps3 or xbox 360
[12:47] <ricanelite> is it possible I could do the same in Ubuntu Linux?
[12:47] <Kommwths> i think not medibuntu repository. how i do that?
[12:47] <DistroJockey> elusif: install ubuntu, shutdown, then reconnect the Windows drive and boot into ubuntu to change grub
[12:48] <pajamian> !medibuntu | Kommwths
[12:48] <ubotu> Kommwths: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[12:48] <fanch_> fanch
[12:49] <hikejinx> Kommwths: go to system administration software sources and enable all the repos
[12:49] <Dr_willis> wers,  it seems to work here.
[12:50] <wers> Dr_willis, it doesn't work for me. any idea?
[12:50] <wers> java's not installed as well
[12:50] <pajamian> hikejinx: he needs to install the medibuntu repo, it's not in software sources by default.
[12:51] <wers> btw, my "firefox" folder (the one that contains the beta) is located in my user folder
[12:51] <Dr_willis> wers,   Im using hardy, the latest firefox beta, and the 'nightly  testers tools' extension.
[12:51] <wers> ooh. have you tried it on gutsy?
[12:51] <wers> doesn't work for me on gutsy
[12:51] <pajamian> ok, I have to run, goodnight
[12:51] <hikejinx> pajamian: well he can get everything through ubuntu-restricted-extras. that metapackage has everything I think. I never enabled it and have all the codecs, java, etc.;
[12:51] <wers> just saw ads after quite a while and I don't like it. hehe
[12:51] <Dr_willis> wers,  if the extension says it cant work with firefox Version Whatever.. then it wont lets itself load..  thats what the testers tools extension does. lets it load.
[12:52] <pajamian> hikejinx: nope, it doesn't have libdvdcss2 and it doesn't have w32codecs
[12:52] <pajamian> !medibuntu | hikejinx
[12:52] <ubotu> hikejinx: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[12:52] <hikejinx> w32codecs are not inclued with vlc?
[12:52] <Kommwths> hikejinx ?
[12:52] <Dr_willis> wers,  adblock dosent really block anything by default. You have to add things to block in its list.. OR use that adboock subscription extension
[12:52] <DOOM_NX> does anybody know how to use alsa tables with xmms? i know how to do it with mplayer
[12:52] <Dr_willis> I dident think vlc used the w32codecs.
[12:52] <hikejinx> ok
[12:52] <wers> i subscribe :)
[12:52] <tactikalnuke> recanelite: check out this site for tutorial on UPnP server for ubuntu
[12:52] <kate321> Hello, i would like to use "cat" command in order to merge 2 files ("cat file1.txt file2.txt >> merge.txt"), does cat command will change the files encoding ?
[12:53] <pajamian> nope, but it uses libdvdcss2
[12:53] <hikejinx> if i try to install w32codecs it says its part of another package or something
[12:53] <DOOM_NX> i mean like selecting an alsa device
[12:53] <pajamian> ok, I'm really going now ... goodnight
[12:53] <tactikalnuke> recanelite: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=165288
[12:53] <Kommwths> hikejinx when i do  :  wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O-  and show me the key and then do  "christophoros@christophoros-laptop:~$ sudo apt-key add -"   it just stopes there
[12:53] <DistroJockey> elusif, tactikalnuke: this may be worth a look re. grub ;) :  http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm
[12:54] <DOOM_NX> please if u knew i'
[12:54] <DOOM_NX> d appreciate it a lot
[12:54] <hikejinx> Kommwths: what do you mean stops?
[12:54] <Kommwths> christophoros@christophoros-laptop:/$ sudo apt-key add -
[12:54] <Kommwths>                 
[12:54] <Kommwths> doesnt do anythink
[12:55] <PyN00b> hey everyone.. i want to know how to specify maximum compression while using tar to have compressed .bz2 file
[12:55] <toma^> Hello. Is it possible to scan and join the available wlans from terminal in ubuntu?
[12:55] <PyN00b> while tar -cvfj archive.tar.bz2 dir1 this works
[12:56] <PyN00b> but what option should i use to specify maximum compression artio..
[12:56] <PyN00b> sorry *ratio
[12:56] <hikejinx> Kommwths: you downloaded the key, right?
[12:56] <Kommwths> yeh
[12:56] <hikejinx> then wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update
[12:57] <hikejinx> Kommwths: did you type in your password?
[12:57] <Pici> Kommwths: That goes awll on one line, the | is a pipe, it does not mean to separate it into two lines.
[12:57] <Alexx> hi
[12:57] <Kommwths> what u mean pici
[12:57] <woodong50> hi
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> !hi | Alexx
[12:57] <ubotu> Alexx: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:58] <Alexx> ^^
[12:58] <Adantan_Alex> its really but im testing a few things
[12:58] <DistroJockey> Kommwths: check what  apt-key does using   man apt-key
[12:58] <Pici> Kommwths: I mean dont press enter instead of putting the | in.
[12:58] <DOOM_NX> !hi | Alexx
[12:58] <ubotu> Alexx: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:58] <DOOM_NX> :P
[12:58] <Alexx> hey whats the command to install ubuntu on xubuntu?
[12:59] <Alexx> XD
[12:59] <Dr_willis> Alexx,  install the ubuntu-desktop package
[12:59] <Alexx> yes
[12:59] <PyN00b> hi can anyone help me out with the bz2 problem i mentioned..
[12:59] <Alexx> what problem was that?
[13:00] <Alexx> !fun
[13:00] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[13:00] <Alchera> i have a weird problem .. although on kubuntu i think this would be the same on ubuntu ...
[13:00] <kthakore> #java
[13:01] <PyN00b> i want to know how to specify maximum compression while using tar to have bz2 compressed tar file
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> wassup Alchera?
[13:01] <Kommwths> pici
[13:01] <icesword> man bzip2
[13:01] <Alchera> a third ide drive mounted on /proc/bus/usb
[13:01] <Kommwths> that means i added it? :christophoros@christophoros-laptop:~$ sudo apt-key add medibuntu-key.gpg -O-
[13:01] <Kommwths> OK
[13:01] <yaselmane> i can't open my windows partition from grub
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> PyN00b: http://www.edenwaith.com/support/guitar/help/man/bzip2.html
[13:02] <Alchera> i think it's a grub "thing" ...
[13:02] <Alchera> alchera@serenity:~$ cat /boot/grub/device.map contain
[13:02] <Alchera> (hd0)   /dev/hda
[13:02] <Alchera> (hd1)   /dev/hdb
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> PyN00b: -1 fastest -9 best
[13:02] <yaselmane> when i press the windows xp button the grub restart itself
[13:02] <DistroJockey> yaselmane: did Windows shutdown cleanly?
[13:02] <yaselmane> yes
[13:03] <DistroJockey> yaselmane: what are you trying to do to it?
[13:03] <iza> quit
[13:03] <cor4l> Names
[13:03] <yaselmane> i want to use windows
[13:03] <yaselmane> i have played lately with the menu.lst
[13:03] <icesword> yaselmane, go go go
[13:04] <yaselmane> what do you mean with go go go ????
[13:04] <DistroJockey> yaselmane: you can only boot Ubuntu?
[13:04] <Khamael> is there a place where I can download custom load screens?
[13:04] <yaselmane> yes
[13:04] <Khamael> I mean, boot screens
[13:05] <icesword> yaselmane, i am sorrry,but what is wrong with your windows
[13:05] <uChuL> cE_zeyek_pZan
[13:05] <yaselmane> i can't boot to it
[13:05] <DistroJockey> yaselmane: can you pastebin the output of the following command please?    fdisk -l
[13:05] <Pici> Khamael: perhaps http://www.gnome-look.org
[13:05] <Khamael> Pici: I will look. thanks
[13:05] <PyN00b> ActionParsnip: thanks , but i want to compress them as .tar first and then .bz2. like tar -cvfj archive.tar.bz2 dir1 . in this where can i give that option . the point is that i want to compress around 20g data overnight..
[13:05] <giantmidget> hi. i'm trying to burn to a dvd the contents of an old hd, where lots of filenames have funny encodings. is there a quick way to 'clean up' all the filenames?
[13:05] <DistroJockey> yaselmane: sudo fdisk -l   rather
[13:05]  * mauro-bls buenas
[13:05] <yaselmane> Disk /dev/sdc: 2063 MB, 2063073280 bytes
[13:05] <yaselmane> 16 heads, 32 sectors/track, 7870 cylinders
[13:05] <yaselmane> Units = cylinders of 512 * 512 = 262144 bytes
[13:05] <yaselmane> Disk identifier: 0x764df73b
[13:05] <yaselmane>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[13:05] <yaselmane> /dev/sdc1               1        7870     2014704    6  FAT16
[13:05] <icesword> yaselmane, after you select windows in grub menu,what happened there
[13:05] <FloodBot3> yaselmane: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:06] <DistroJockey> not here ;P
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> PyN00b: then create the tar of the files then bzip with -9 option
[13:06] <PeterD> Hey, I have a quick question.
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> !paste | yaselmane
[13:06] <ubotu> yaselmane: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[13:06] <yaselmane> the grub menu comes again
[13:07] <PeterD> I'm using an LCD flat screen, and when I boot up Ubuntu, everything is really bright, and text on webpages is extremely hard to read.
[13:07] <PeterD> What do I need to do?
[13:07] <PyN00b> ActionParsnip,: can i give as a single command with tar to have maximum compression..
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> PyN00b: have you googled any for this
[13:08] <PyN00b> ActionParsnip: yes , i got links with questions as is the default compression the best and so on..
[13:09] <PyN00b> ActionParsnip: but couldn't find any answers..
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> PyN00b: tar cf - subdir | gzip --best -c - > archive.tar.gz
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> PyN00b: that took me 4 seconds
[13:09] <elusif> lol tactikalnuke re:grubs
[13:09] <icesword> yaselmane, after you select windows in grub menu,what happened there
[13:10] <yaselmane> the menu start again
[13:10] <PyN00b> ActionParsnip: ya that's correct, but i have a doubt wouldn't piping the data would be problem with large no of files and the data.
[13:11] <elusif> DistroJockey: many thanks, i will install on 24 april when 8.04 is out :)
[13:11] <PyN00b> ActionParsnip: i am not much familier with linux..
[13:11] <icesword> yaselmane, what you mean by start again
[13:11] <Mr_Bad_News> where  do i get vmwares serial # ?
[13:11] <ikonia> Mr_Bad_News: you have to buy it
[13:11] <DistroJockey> elusif: you're welcome. Sounds like the best idea
[13:11] <Mr_Bad_News> i thought it was free
[13:11] <ikonia> Mr_Bad_News: no
[13:12] <ikonia> Mr_Bad_News: http://www.vmware.com
[13:12] <ZeroA4> Mr_Bad_News, VMware has free products like VMware Player and VMware Server the other you have to pay
[13:12] <yaselmane> like when you refresh a page in firefox
[13:12] <lopin> Hey guys...  Trying to get WoW working on a friends comp.  Just getting a white screen after we start it up.  Interface shows up fine.  Any ideas?
[13:12] <PyN00b> Mr_Bad_News: u ca have a free copy at vmware site too.. for everthing we have a standard and a professional edition..
[13:12] <giantmidget> does anyone know a quick way to change the encoding from unicode to utf-8 for a bunch of file names?
[13:12] <rio> giantmidget: utf-8 is an implementation of unicode
[13:12] <Mr_Bad_News> im just trying out vmware server
[13:13] <DistroJockey> Mr_Bad_News: might want to look at  virtualbox  also
[13:13] <icesword> Mr_Bad_News, it is free
[13:13] <giantmidget> rio, so what id like to achieve is removing all the characters that show up funny on linux
[13:14] <puplin> virtualbox is great
[13:14] <icesword> yaselmane,could you be more specific,and paste your menu.lst
[13:14] <rio> giantmidget: so whats the encoding now?
[13:14] <yaselmane> ok
[13:14] <giantmidget> i get filenames like $ett?rt?net.doc
[13:14] <rio> iso-8859 maybe?
[13:14] <Mr_Bad_News> then where is the serial # icesword
[13:14] <giantmidget> rio, i dont know :(
[13:14] <yogi> Hi, has anyone installed IBM-symphony on ubuntu 64 bit version
[13:14] <ikonia> Mr_Bad_News go to vmware.com
[13:14] <Mr_Bad_News> im there
[13:14] <icesword> Mr_Bad_News, goto vmware.com.look up
[13:15] <ZeroA4> Mr_Bad_News, VMwaree Server is free DOES not ask for serial
[13:15] <yogi> Hi, has anyone installed IBM-symphony on ubuntu 64 bit version
[13:15] <giantmidget> rio, i dont quite grasp what the problem is, but i have lots of messy characters in the names of files that were created on windows
[13:15] <Mr_Bad_News> tell that to my command line ZeroA4
[13:15] <yaselmane> here you are http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62502/
[13:15] <ZeroA4> Mr_Bad_News, you must be tring a pay version
[13:15] <puplin> ZeroA4: ???
[13:15] <puplin> you have to register to get the free serial
[13:16] <spinnekop> giantmidget, with file -command?
[13:16] <puplin> go to the link they give, register for vmware server, and they give you a serial
[13:16] <puplin> it's free
[13:16] <rio> giantmidget: try `convmv -f iso-8859-1 -t utf8 *.doc`
[13:16] <Mr_Bad_News> vmware-server1.0.5-80187
[13:16] <puplin> but not "free"
[13:16] <ZeroA4> puplin, mine didnot ask for a serial
[13:16] <yogi> Hi, has anyone installed IBM-symphony on ubuntu 64 bit version
[13:16] <daning> can't wait for hardy 8.04
[13:16] <Pici> !repeat | yogi
[13:16] <ubotu> yogi: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[13:16] <puplin> ZeroA4: how long ago did you install?
[13:17] <lopin> !WoW
[13:17] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[13:17] <cyzie> my wireless suddenly not appear in ifconfig, is there any help to troubleshoot it ?
[13:17] <lopin> Thank you, ubotu!
[13:17] <ZeroA4> puplin, dont remember
[13:17] <kate321> Hello, i would like to use "cat" command in order to merge 2 files ("cat file1.txt file2.txt >> merge.txt"), all the files encoding are UTF-8 does cat command will change the files encoding ?
[13:17] <ikonia> kate321: no
[13:18] <Mr_Bad_News> 988AD-YWR2X-2910K-4C29M
[13:18] <Mr_Bad_News> whoops
[13:18] <boubbin> how can i open port 113 ?
[13:18] <icesword> yaselmane,your windows xp should be like this,root (hd0,0）makeactive chainloader +1 boot,one thing ,one line
[13:19] <ikonia> boubbin: there is no firewall enabled in ubuntu by defult
[13:19] <boubbin> so it should be open ?
[13:19] <icesword> yaselmane, first sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[13:19] <erUSUL> boubbin: yep
[13:19] <ikonia> boubbin: if there is something listening on it, and no firewall between it, yes
[13:19] <boubbin> i installed pidentd but still i dent ~ leading when i connect to irc
[13:20] <abid> hi, can someone help me edit the MBR of the ubuntu
[13:20] <ikonia> abid: what do you want to do
[13:20] <yaselmane> icesword, yes after that ......
[13:20] <icesword> yaselmane,your windows xp should be like this,root (hd0,0）makeactive chainloader +1 boot,one thing ,one line
[13:21] <abid> well the ubuntu is in the frist choice list
[13:21] <abid> but i very new to linux and i dont know anything about it
[13:21] <abid> i still prefer to use XO as i have all the stuff still there
[13:21] <ikonia> abid: ok, so what do you want to do, have XP as the default option ?
[13:21] <abid> yep
[13:21] <FXMaveric> Hello... anyone experience programming a dma-transfer using dma.h header of ubuntu?
[13:21] <erUSUL> boubbin: maybe it is your router the one  doing firewalling
[13:22] <abid> i am starting yop my ubuntu now
[13:22] <yaselmane> icesword , like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62503/
[13:22] <boubbin> erUSUL so when pidentd is installed it is by default listening to 113 ?
[13:23] <abid> ok my ubuntu has already started up
[13:23] <ikonia> abid: very easy, open the /boot/grub/menu.lst file with an editor and use sudo so it's as root permissions. Then scroll down to where you see the boot lines, (ubuntu, ubuntu recovery mode, Windows XP) and count the first one as 0, the next one as 1, next as 2 and so on, then change the default 0 line to default $n where $n is the number of the boot menu you wanted
[13:23] <spinnekop> abid, editing grub ? what youwant to achieve by editing mbr?
[13:23] <spinnekop> woops
[13:24] <erUSUL> boubbin: i guess so... i tried once but used gidentd it worked back in the day
[13:24] <boubbin> k
[13:24] <abid>  sorry
[13:24] <abid> exited by mistake
[13:24] <icesword> yaselmane, like this .http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62504/
[13:25] <erUSUL> boubbin: i tried in quakenet
[13:25] <abid> can i paste my mbr.list or somthing on a paste site?
[13:25] <ikonia> abid: you don't need to paste it
[13:25] <ikonia> abid: just count the boot menu options, starting as 0
[13:25] <abid> can you please repeat the command line
[13:25] <abid> sudo gedit /...?
[13:26] <twager> When I burn mp3 files as .wav using K3B I do not get the track titles just track numbers. Any way I can get titles?
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> abid: dont sudo gedit anything
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> gksudo gedit ...
[13:26] <arvind_khadri> abid, please use sudoedit
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> sudo is for cli apps only
[13:26] <abid> o....but what shuld be the file path?
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> gksudo gedit
[13:26] <icesword> yaselmane, you got me
[13:26] <arvind_khadri> ActionParsnip, gksu only for GUI apps
[13:26] <yaselmane> yeah
[13:26] <bazhang> arvind_khadri: you still around?
[13:27] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, yeah,got myself worked around
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> arvind_khadri: techically you can use gksudo for both but sudo is ONLY for sudo apps or you can get issues
[13:27] <bazhang> arvind_khadri: how did it work out?
[13:27] <Finnish_> I have 2 broken packages in my system. What should I do with them?
[13:27] <yaselmane> but , why did you put the windows to time , one before ( end debian ....... ) and the other after it ???
[13:27] <arvind_khadri> ActionParsnip, but its preferrabel to use sudoedit
[13:28] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, u mean yesterdays prob???i re-installed
[13:28] <bazhang> Finnish_: try apt-get -f install
[13:28] <bazhang> arvind_khadri: okay so far?
[13:28] <abid> sorry once again
[13:28] <abid> i keep getting DC
[13:28] <arvind_khadri> Finnish_, wats the exact error u are getting
[13:28] <fredsa> hi guys
[13:28] <fredsa> is there a list anywhere that shows what nvidia cards are supported by ubuntu
[13:28] <anton> i cant install my linksys router in my Gutsy.. anyone knows how?
[13:29] <gatestone> how do I compile a module, I have an example in nothing.c and a Makefile, according to http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/drivers_linux?page=0%2C1
[13:29] <bazhang> fredsa: what card you got
[13:29] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, yeah no probs till now...this time i would be careful,i guess the code had something to do with binaries,so dpkg might have broke
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> anton: you dont have to
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> anton: just access it with yur default gateway address
[13:29] <bazhang> arvind_khadri: good to hear; sorry not help more yesterday
[13:29] <gatestone> Should I install kernel-headers? How? Then just make or something more?
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> gatestone: sudo apt-get install kernel-headers
[13:30] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, hey u helped me a lot,i should be more careful from next time
[13:30] <bazhang> thanks for saying so arvind
[13:30] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, do u know how can i get myself to MOTU,really want to be there
[13:30] <giantmidget> can anyone give me an idea on how to strip from a string all non-alphanumeric characters?
[13:30] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, :)
[13:30] <gatestone> ActionParsnip: Package kernel-headers is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[13:30] <bazhang> #ubuntu-motu they have a channel arvind_khadri
[13:31] <yaselmane> icesword , where are man ??
[13:31] <yaselmane> where are you man
[13:31] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, hey yeah tell me about envy
[13:31] <gatestone> Will kernel-headers-386 do?
[13:31] <bazhang> fredsa: you still there?
[13:31] <Gilou> giantmidget> s/[^0-9]//g or something like that in vi / sed..
[13:31] <icesword> yaselmane, what you mean the url?
[13:31] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, are they in freenode itself??
[13:31] <gatestone> ActionParsnip, will kernel-headers-386 do?
[13:31] <icesword> yaselmane, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62504/
[13:31] <anton> how can i access my default gateway address?
[13:31] <giantmidget> Gilou, thanks
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> anton: ifconfig will show you what is picked up by dhcp
[13:32] <bazhang> arvind_khadri: yeah they are; and envy is a super script that installs drivers but often leaves people with problems; definitely not for the faint of heart ;]
[13:32] <yaselmane> icesword , i will try it
[13:32] <anton> thanks ActionParsnip
[13:32] <yaselmane> thanks man
[13:32] <wers> how do i set sonata up?
[13:32] <icesword> yaselmane, reboot and let me know
[13:32] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, how do we use envy,jus asking,i wont try it...i love apt :)
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> anton: np dude
[13:32] <bazhang> gatestone: you trying to compile? did you install build-essential?
[13:33] <wers> I can't browse my music files :(
[13:33] <gatestone> yep!
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> anton: I have a linksys too, you dont need the cd
[13:33] <gatestone> bazhang, I can compile, but there is no kernel-headers in apt
[13:33] <anton> dude i typed ipconfig in my terminal
[13:34] <bazhang> arvind_khadri: you install the deb then launch it and it does the rest
[13:34] <yaselmane> ok , see you
[13:34] <anton> its a bad command , im new in linux :(
[13:34] <shaiguitar> s/ipconfig/ifconfig
[13:34] <bazhang> anton: should be ifconfig
[13:34] <geronimaldo> hehe...
[13:34] <geronimaldo> i do it all the time anton
[13:34] <bazhang> got to go for a bit back soon
[13:34] <gatestone> ActionParsnip, bazhang, there is linux-libc-dev - Linux Kernel Headers for development
[13:35] <anton> thanks dude! :)
[13:35] <fredsa> bazhang: currently, it's an nvidia 7600GS but hardware accelleration is not supported and at least one bug in the driver crashes the server when I perform certain operations in blender
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> gatestone: get em
[13:35] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, ohh wokay
[13:35] <abid>  ok i just pasted my menu list can someone please tell me where it is that i need to make 0,1.2?
[13:35] <DOOM_NX> can i install an rpm package in ubuntu? how?
[13:35] <abid> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62506/
[13:35] <LeGreffi3R> wers> you have to set up an mpd server before :)
[13:35] <LeGreffi3R> wers> sonata is just a client to mpd servers
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> DOOM_NX: try get the deb versin first
[13:35] <wers> how do I do that?
[13:35] <Exteris> !alien | DOOM_NX
[13:35] <shaiguitar> anyone know why ssh-add won't forward my details more than once? i can log into a remote machine; ssh once with no problem, but the second time doesn't work. when i do ssh-add -l, it doesn't show up (whereas on the first machine it will work)
[13:35] <ubotu> DOOM_NX: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> DOOM_NX: what you got?
[13:35] <abid> hi,,,,bit of help with editing the menu list please... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62506/
[13:36] <DOOM_NX> there isn't any deb
[13:36] <DOOM_NX> i want xmms mp3pro plugin
[13:36] <LeGreffi3R> wers> first of all, install the mpd package, and tweak /etc/mpd.conf to suit your needs...
[13:36] <fredsa> bazhang: sorry for the pause, I got a phone call
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> DOOM_NX: sec...
[13:36] <arvind_khadri> DOOM_NX, u can find it in the ugly set
[13:36] <anton> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:13:D4:40:F1:5F
[13:36] <anton>           inet addr:122.54.88.85  Bcast:122.54.95.255  Mask:255.255.248.0
[13:36] <anton>           inet6 addr: fe80::213:d4ff:fe40:f15f/64 Scope:Link
[13:36] <anton>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[13:36] <anton>           RX packets:1185277 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[13:36] <anton>           TX packets:1283712 errors:0 dropped:1 overruns:0 carrier:0
[13:36] <FloodBot3> anton: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:36] <anton>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[13:36] <LeGreffi3R> wers> this isn't the easiest to setup
[13:37] <hikejinx> !paste | anton
[13:37] <ubotu> anton: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[13:37] <wers> wow. sonata's so not user friendly :P hehe
[13:37] <DOOM_NX> arvind_khadri, what do u mean?
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> DOOM_NX: do you want torip to mp3pro? or just play?
[13:37] <LeGreffi3R> wers> sonata is user friendly
[13:37] <DOOM_NX> play
[13:37] <shaiguitar> anyone know why ssh-add won't forward my details more than once? i can log into a remote machine; ssh once with no problem, but the second time doesn't work. when i do ssh-add -l, it doesn't show up (whereas on the first machine it will work)
[13:37] <wers> not when setting it up. hehe
[13:37] <shaiguitar> ping *
[13:37] <arvind_khadri> DOOM_NX, use this sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[13:37] <shaiguitar> ping *
[13:37] <abid> a bit of help please edditing the menu list... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62506/
[13:37] <wers> anyway, i'm still installing mpd :)
[13:38] <cheese> !beryl | sucks
[13:38] <ubotu> sucks: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[13:38] <LeGreffi3R> wers> mpd is just weird to use if you're new to servers-clients softwares
[13:38] <icesword> lol
[13:38] <yaselmane> icesword, back man , it didn't work
[13:38] <wers> so new to it. hehe
[13:38] <DOOM_NX> will i be able to play mp3pro with xmms then?
[13:38] <arvind_khadri> DOOM_NX, yeah u will be
[13:38] <wers> LeGreffi3R, WHAT DO i DO WITH IT NOW?
[13:38] <icesword> yaselmane, what you got after you  choose it?then
[13:38] <wers> oops
[13:38] <wers> sorry!
[13:38] <wers> caps
[13:38] <yaselmane> i got to windows xp
[13:39] <DOOM_NX> gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly is already the newest version.
[13:39] <LeGreffi3R> wers> there should be a howto on the wiki i guess
[13:39] <arvind_khadri> DOOM_NX, if you arent to able even after this then jus open synaptic and search for gstreamer
[13:39] <DOOM_NX> gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly is already the newest version. :o
[13:39] <yaselmane> the first , is the same problem and the second took me to the old grub screen ( the black one )
[13:39] <icesword> yaselmane, what you mean,windows cannot boot?
[13:39] <arvind_khadri> DOOM_NX, yeah go to synaptic
[13:39] <anton> where is my default gateway address?
[13:39] <abid> help please i need to edit the menu list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62506/
[13:40] <bottiger> I never understood. when you do "sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin". how do you know where phpmyadmin get's installed?
[13:40] <anton> what is the equivalent of the default gateway address in linux?
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> DOOM_NX: yeah install alien and sudo alien <whatever>.rpm
[13:40] <DOOM_NX> isnt alien dangerous?
[13:40] <geronimaldo> anton; on your routing table it will be route 0.0.0.0
[13:41] <arvind_khadri> abid, wat do u want??
[13:41] <hikejinx> DOOM_NX: it's generally not recommended
[13:41] <DOOM_NX> why?
[13:41] <adac> when I do a manual mount and play songs with amarok from the mounted partition...which files (excluded the one from amarok) do log or save this mounting and playing songs stuff? critical files are for example /var/log/messages /var/log/syslog are there any other files that log?
[13:41] <abid> arvind i just pasted my menu list on the site
[13:41] <abid> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62506/
[13:41] <DJones> !rpm | DOOM_NX
[13:41] <ubotu> DOOM_NX: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[13:41] <DOOM_NX> yes i already read that
[13:42] <abid> i need the windows XP to be the default choice
[13:42] <anton> geronimaldo: I cant get it.. where is that?
[13:42] <yaselmane> can i restore from the windows xp cd
[13:42] <Beererde> hi. can i somehow install ALL 32 bit development files on 64 bit ubuntu?
[13:42] <DOOM_NX> why is alien dangerous?
[13:42] <geronimaldo> anton: youŕe installing a linksys router?
[13:42] <anton> yes geronimaldo
[13:42] <Dr_willis> abid,  the grub menu.lst file has a 'default #' for the default selected item. cound the # of entries in your grub and put in the right #.
[13:42] <geronimaldo> wireless?
[13:42] <LeGreffi3R> wers> http://blog.effraie.org/post/2006/11/06/MPD-et-icecast2-Webradio-ou-lecteur-ultime
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> DOOM_NX: cos the thing is packaged for rpm based systems. Its a conversion which generally isnt liked
[13:43] <anton> yes
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> DOOM_NX: Amarok plays mp3pro
[13:43] <Dr_willis> abid,  grub starts counting at 0 however. :)  so if windows is on the 5th grub line use default 4
[13:43] <Beererde> for example libxcursor-dev for32 bit
[13:43] <wers> wow. thanks LeGreffi3R :)
[13:43] <abid> Doctor i a noob...thie is my first install
[13:43] <hikejinx> it could break a package maybe. I'm thinking a codec or something would not be that big of a deal. and it's alien -i package.rpm if you do use it.
[13:43] <arvind_khadri> DOOM_NX, try installin the bad set,i think tats the one for xmms
[13:43] <abid> i have nvr use linux before
[13:43] <LeGreffi3R> wers> this is french but pretty easy to follow i think
[13:43] <geronimaldo> from the command line. . if you type ifconfig. whatś your ip address?
[13:43] <geronimaldo> sorry.. ifconfig even
[13:44] <LeGreffi3R> wers> you don't have to do the icecast part
[13:44] <arvind_khadri> abid set the default value to 4
[13:44] <Coggz> anyone know how to get a tablet (wacom) working
[13:44] <abid> this i my menu list...i still cant figure which is the actually line to be edited http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62506/
[13:44] <yaselmane> icesword,can i restore the boot of windows from the installation disk
[13:44] <Dr_willis> abid,  time to read a tutorial or 2 i guess. and to edit the grub menu.lst use 'sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst'  edit the file use Control-o to write OUT the changes.
[13:44] <wers> LeGreffi3R, google translate time! hehe
[13:44] <Beererde> something like lib32-dev ?
[13:45] <anton> geronimaldo: inet addr: 122.54.88.85
[13:45] <Wolfmight> hey. Anyone know how to get the Broadcom 4318 wireless internet working? Does the Hardy Herone Beta resolve this?  I've tried 5 tutorials so far with no luck :-(
[13:45] <arvind_khadri> abid http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62509/ go here i have edited it
[13:45] <DistroJockey> yaselmane: you said windows boots ok?
[13:45] <yaselmane> no
[13:45] <Coggz> Wolfmight: Is that a dell laptop?
[13:45] <yaselmane> it didn't boot
[13:45] <Wolfmight> it's an HP pavilion dv5000
[13:45] <yaselmane> i need windows
[13:45] <Beererde> hi. can i somehow install ALL 32 bit development files on 64 bit ubuntu?
[13:45] <geronimaldo> and you´re connecting through the router that youŕe trying to install??
[13:45] <icesword> yaselmane, ths  iss are you sure your windows is broken
[13:46] <Coggz> Wolfmight: ok, i am here for you... i had the same problem...
[13:46] <Wolfmight> yeah, i've got a wireless 2wire router. works great
[13:46] <yaselmane> i have all my school project in it , and i need to print them for tomorrow
[13:46] <arvind_khadri> abid, i have marked the change with "@@"
[13:46] <DistroJockey> yaselmane: ohh, k, well, the Windows tools  fixmbr and fixboot  may get windows fixed
[13:46] <yaselmane> it's a matter of life or death
[13:46] <icesword> yaselmane, your windows is at c:\?
[13:46] <DistroJockey> yaselmane: but don't rush :)
[13:46] <yaselmane> yeah
[13:46] <anton> the router is not yet connected coz i might think that i will lost my internet connection so right now i connect directly to the modem
[13:47] <Wolfmight> Coggz, did you get yours working?
[13:47] <geronimaldo> ok
[13:47] <anton> geronimaldo: what will i do?
[13:47] <yaselmane> how can i use fixmbr
[13:47] <icesword> yaselmane, tell me what happened after you choose windows at grub menu
[13:47] <geronimaldo> have you installed your wireless card in linux?
[13:47] <arvind_khadri> abid, ???
[13:47] <anton> not yet..
[13:47] <yaselmane> nothing happend
[13:48] <DJones> abid: On line 14 there's a line default 0, the numbering starts at 0, according to the info on grub, I think that number needs changing to the number of your windows entry in grub, remembering that it starts at 0, I think it would be 3 or 4, depending on whether the divider counts as a number as well, BUT before you change it, I'd suggest getting somebody more experieced with grub to check and confirm
[13:48] <bottiger> I have an ubuntu server. but when I try to install emacs it want's to install the gtk-version with all it's dependencies :/
[13:48] <geronimaldo> thatś the first thing you need to do, other wise it can´t connect to your router
[13:48] <icesword> yaselmane, a black screen or that fout line ?or something else
[13:48] <anton> what will i do? do you think i will try to connect it right now 1st?
[13:48] <DistroJockey> yaselmane: Ubuntu boots?
[13:48] <anton> ok thanks :) brb
[13:48] <Wolfmight> is there a tutorial that works for the HP Pavilion dv5000 Broadcom 4318 wifi ?
[13:48] <yaselmane> yeah , a black screen and the grub menu come back
[13:48] <DJones> abid: if you change it and its wrong, you might not be able to get back into ubuntu easily to fix it
[13:48] <icesword> yaselmane, the thing is if you fixmbr ,ubuntu won't boot
[13:49] <yaselmane> yeah , i'm using ubuntu right now
[13:49] <geronimaldo> ok good luck
[13:49] <yaselmane> i don't care about ubuntu
[13:49] <arvind_khadri> DJones, i have done it
[13:49] <yaselmane> i need to make window work
[13:49] <hikejinx> yaselmane: can't you print your homework from ubuntu?
[13:49] <yaselmane> no
 DOOM_NX: Amarok plays mp3pro -> not really, can't decode right
[13:49] <DistroJockey> yaselmane: then you should be able to mount the Windows partition and get stuff from it
[13:49] <yaselmane> i'm using office 2007
[13:49] <arvind_khadri> DJones, it needs to be set to 4
[13:50] <yaselmane> ok , but how
[13:50] <savetheWorld> NOTE:  this channel's dialog is being recorded and published on IRCSEEK
[13:50] <icesword> yaselmane, oaky,fixmbr /device/harddisk 0.and goodbye.use windows install cd ,press R,when it asks
[13:50] <fx|RabBit> does anyonehave a spc 1300nc and if yes how oes it work with ubuntu?
[13:50] <DJones> arvind_khadri: thanks, I wasn't sure what the number needed to be
[13:50] <arvind_khadri> DJones, and yeah divider is also counted :)
[13:50] <Wolfmight> n e 1 know how to get wifi working?
[13:50] <arvind_khadri> DJones, the guy seems to be lost somewhere
[13:50] <Coggz> Wolfmight: This is what u want... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff
[13:50] <yaselmane> where fixmbr /device/harddisk 0
[13:50] <DJones> arvind_khadri: right, that was what was makinig me wonder and why I suggested he get somebody else to confirm it
[13:50] <Coggz> follow exactly
[13:51] <Coggz> it will work
[13:51] <Wolfmight> k thx
[13:51] <HangukMiguk> this is gonna sound like a stupid question, but if i'm running openbox, which is marked to be upgraded in synaptic, do i have to exit out of openbox?
[13:51] <icesword> yaselmane, oaky,fixmbr /device/harddisk 0.and goodbye.use windows install cd ,press R,when it asks
[13:51] <jonaskoelker> question:  I want to keep /var/cache/apt/archives/ as small as possible; where do I tune this?
[13:51] <arvind_khadri> DJones, hmm :)
[13:51] <yaselmane> can you tel me the steps , because i'm new in this
[13:51] <DistroJockey> yaselmane, icesword: better to mount the windows partition and try first?
[13:51] <yaselmane> tell
[13:51] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, hey catch u later
[13:51] <adac> are this all log files in ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxLogFiles
[13:51] <fx|RabBit> ok different question: what webcam do you guys use?
[13:52] <icesword> DistroJockey, you do that ,if you like ,i wiill goto bed.and night ,bazhang
[13:52] <fredsa> So can anyone give me advice on how I can go about choosing a new graphics card that supports hardware accelleration? There's no list or anything?
[13:52] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, good night cya
[13:52] <hikejinx> yaselmane: I'm on kubuntu, but there should be something about ntfs configuration in system I think
[13:52] <ere4si> HangukMiguk: no - you will prob have to reboot
[13:52] <savetheWorld> NOTE:  Your dialog in this  channel's is being recorded and published on IRCSEEK
[13:52] <Hobbsee> savetheWorld: it's already listed in the topic.
[13:52] <fx|RabBit> fredsa: waht do you wanna spend?
[13:52] <abid> just copied it to PC lets see if it works
[13:52] <yaselmane> guys , i can't open the C form ubuntu
[13:52] <gatestone> HangukMiguk, it depends, but usually you can upgrade without closing, but of course the new version will not run before you restart
[13:52] <arvind_khadri> abid hey remove the @@
[13:53] <DistroJockey> yaselmane: can you pastebin the output of the following please?:   sudo fdisk -l
[13:53] <yaselmane> but i open D ( stuff )
[13:53] <abid> ooo
[13:53] <abid> ok
[13:53] <jonaskoelker> adac: no, for one the aptitude log isn't mentiond
[13:53] <HangukMiguk> gatestone: so in order for changes to take effect, i'd have to back out of x and log back in?
[13:53] <puplin> yeah
[13:53] <jonaskoelker> adac: do an ls -l /var/log/, that should give you an impression of what's there
[13:53] <yaselmane> Disk /dev/sda: 120.0 GB, 120034123776 bytes
[13:53] <yaselmane> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 14593 cylinders
[13:53] <yaselmane> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[13:53] <yaselmane> Disk identifier: 0xc549f072
[13:53] <yaselmane>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[13:53] <yaselmane> /dev/sda1   *           1        5099    40957686    7  HPFS/NTFS
[13:53] <FloodBot3> yaselmane: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:53] <puplin> HangukMiguk: correct
[13:53] <yaselmane> /dev/sda2            5100        5221      979965   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[13:53] <gatestone> Probably yes.
[13:53] <HangukMiguk> or would a full restart be necessary?
[13:53] <arvind_khadri> abid please put a feedback if it happens to "arvindkhadri@gmail.com
[13:53] <gatestone> HangukMiguk, probably yes
[13:54] <yaselmane> i'm in hurry
[13:54] <HangukMiguk> ok, thanks
[13:54] <fredsa> fx|RabBit: Not too concerned about price.  I'll be doing opengl programming with it. I also do 3d work with blender but I probably want a gaming card rather than a 3d art card
[13:54] <gatestone> Sometimes a reboot might be required.
[13:54] <DistroJockey> yaselmane: if you are in a hurry, do it right ;)
[13:54] <arvind_khadri> abid please put a feedback if it happens to "arvindkhadri@gmail.com"
[13:54] <fx|RabBit> !paste | yaselmane
[13:54] <Linuturk> does anyone know of a ncurses or other terminal based front end for gnucash? or another application that would work well over ssh?
[13:54] <ubotu> yaselmane: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[13:54] <gatestone> HangukMiguk, sometimes a reboot might be required, but not generally for any graphics related stuff
[13:55] <HangukMiguk> gatestone: thanks
[13:55] <abid> do i put default 4 to the very left margin?
[13:55] <abid> as in no space between margin and "default
[13:55] <abid> ?
[13:55] <fx|RabBit> fredsa i can stronglz remommend the 8800gt gs  adapter bz gainward
[13:55] <hikejinx> DistroJockey: does the ntfs configuration tool let him enable read/write access to his ntfs partition? Wouldn't it just be a few clicks in the prefs? I don't have windows, so I don't know.
[13:56] <yaselmane> what can i do now
[13:56] <DistroJockey> hikejinx: not sure on that, not have windows here either atm
[13:56] <cheese> !ubotu | ubotu
[13:56] <ubotu> ubotu: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[13:56] <gatestone> If you want to try your hand at kernel programming, I just found a very easy way, a good tutorial, try it: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/lkmpg/2.6/html/x181.html
[13:57] <abid> Arvid many thanks it worked
[13:57] <DistroJockey> hikejinx: I just was going to give a mount /dev/sda? /mnt/sda? command
[13:57] <fredsa> thanks fx|RabBit. I'm checking it out
[13:57] <hikejinx> DistroJockey: gotcha.
[13:58] <fredsa> fx|RabBit: what's adapter bz gainward?
[13:59] <yaselmane> anyone can help me
[13:59] <DOOM_NX> The program 'rpm' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install rpm
[13:59] <DOOM_NX> what is that rpm program?
[13:59] <fragged> Is rcp replaced with scp now? IE if I use rcp will packets still be encrypted?
[13:59] <izinucs> DistroJockey, typically in ubuntu it would be /dev/sda? /media/sda?
[13:59] <yaselmane> icesword , where are you man
[13:59] <fragged> DOOM_NX, its a part of the redhat package management system. google next time -.-
[13:59] <Finnish_> UGh
[13:59] <DistroJockey> izinucs: depends on what you want :)
[14:00] <Finnish_> My net went down
[14:00] <DOOM_NX> fragged, so if i install it, i will be able to install rpm packages?
[14:00] <hikejinx> yaselmane: look for ntfs configuration tool in system, maybe under preferences
[14:00] <izinucs> DistroJockey, true.. but that's kinda the "standard" convention used.. of course you can mount what ever ,, where ever
[14:00] <Finnish_> So the problem with broken packages
[14:00] <fragged> DOOM_NX, how about you ask google
[14:00] <yaselmane> i did it
[14:00] <yaselmane> but , it didn't work
[14:01] <hikejinx> did yo uenable write support for internal device?
[14:01] <lopin> !wow
[14:01] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[14:01] <Finnish_> I have unmet depencies
[14:01] <yaselmane> i will go now
[14:01] <Coggz> anyone got a acer travelmate?
[14:01] <DOOM_NX> fragged, i know about google, if i didn't want an answer from a human here i wouldn't ask
[14:01] <DistroJockey> izinucs: media shows on the Desktop (if you don't change the defaults) I guess
[14:01] <yaselmane> i will find a way to do it , MYSELF
[14:01] <yaselmane> thanks to you all
[14:01] <yaselmane> bye
[14:01] <fragged> DOOM_NX, if a human wanted to answer you. they would have.
[14:02] <DistroJockey> yaselmane: good luck
[14:02] <DistroJockey> snap
[14:02] <Wolfmight> k i gotta reboot, thanks again Coggz
[14:02] <izinucs> DistroJockey, it does.. but there's a way to turn that off so you don't have to look at a lot of drives/partitions if you don't want.
[14:02] <DistroJockey> izinucs: yup
[14:02] <fragged> DOOM_NX, do you have a profession? How about I ask you for tips in your spare time, when you could be doing something you want to do ;)
[14:02] <jmw5098> how can i change a compiz action setting that's blue'd out
[14:02] <Coggz> kk
[14:02] <DOOM_NX> well u don't have to answer urself... if u don't feel like helping then don't
[14:02] <Alexx> if u have any windows problems plz contact me
[14:03] <wonko2> ok, so I gave up on the ldap library issue, but i'm stilling fighting power management under fluxbox
[14:03] <Alexx> hmmmm whats the problem?
[14:04] <fragged> Alexx, if  your talking about the OS check out ##Windows, most of the time they talk shit but occasioanlly a decent conversation sparks up
[14:04] <izinucs> DOOM_NX, what's up .. what question do yo have
[14:04] <Adantan_Alex> .... before a person was here about his windows problems
[14:04] <DJones> DOOM_NX: As you've seen, rpm's aren't part of the ubuntu system, because of that, using them even via alien could break your system, because they're not supported by ubuntu, you'd be unlikely to get much help in the channel if something does go wrong
[14:05] <wonko2> i run: /usr/bin/guidance-power-manager at fluxbox startup, and i get the little battery icon in the tray
[14:05] <DOOM_NX> i just asked if rpm program is able to install rpms or...
[14:05] <wonko2> lid switch does nothing, so i tried right-click and choose suspend from the menu
[14:05] <wonko2> it never suspends
[14:05] <DistroJockey> Adantan_Alex: so?
[14:06] <jmw5098> in compiz, can i apply a screen edge action to show desktop?
[14:07] <hikejinx> DOOM_NX: you need alien. It's not so much the program, it's the fact that linux uses different methods to package programs to be installed and you may have problems installing rpms, especially for system critical applications/packages. You would probably be fine with installing that codec or mutlimedia support you wanted.
[14:07] <DOOM_NX> i just want a way to install xmms mp3pro plugin, nothing more
[14:08] <izinucs> DOOM_NX, like DJones said above.. installing RPM's  directly without conversion is impossible.  Converting them can cause many issues in your system. I've only done it to one programs and it was pretty generic so no harm.. If you need something  that you have only found RPM's for .. see if you can get the source files and start a new adventure compiling your own DEB. :)
[14:08] <fx|RabBit> fredsa: as you surely know there are many brands for 8800gt, i recommend you buy the 8800gt gs model by gainward
[14:08] <valchers> hello, I have one question about ubuntu 8.04, i read it will be LTS, but unlit which year?
[14:08] <mewt> fx|RabBit, gainward ? that's a bit of a gamble :S
[14:09] <izinucs> valchers, 3 years on the desktop ... 5 on the server
[14:09] <DOOM_NX> "libmp3PRO-1.0.1-1.i386.rpm"
[14:09] <DOOM_NX> no deb, no source
[14:09] <valchers> thanks
[14:09] <Pici> !lts | valchers
[14:09] <fx|RabBit> mewt: why would that be?
[14:09] <ubotu> valchers: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[14:09] <izinucs> DOOM_NX, what is that.. what's it suppose to do?
[14:09] <Pici> valchers: Its being released at the end of the month, so do the math ;)
[14:09] <Randocal>  Would printing via parallel generally be more reliable than printing via USB? Or are they both about equal at this point?
[14:10] <DOOM_NX> izinucs, decode properly mp3pro files
[14:10] <anton> geronimaldo: still there?
[14:10] <izinucs> Randocal, usb is better supported...  the oher can be flakey from what I've been tolk
[14:10] <mewt> fx|RabBit, last gainward card I had was a 6800gs and damn it gave me so much less performance than a supposedly equal bfg
[14:10] <izinucs> *told
[14:10] <valchers> I need for server
[14:10] <mewt> fx|RabBit, bfg wasnt factory overclocked im sure
[14:10] <geronimaldo> anton: yep how´d it go?
[14:10] <anton> still I dont know how to install my linksys wireless router?? :((
[14:10] <izinucs> DOOM_NX, so it's a player? or converter?
[14:10] <Randocal> That's too bad... i'm failing with USB and was hoping I'd have better results with parallel
[14:11] <geronimaldo> is your wireless card installed in linux?
 DOOM_NX, so it's a player? or converter? -> just a plugin for xmms
[14:11] <anton> no internet connection when i connect my router
[14:11] <anton> yep
[14:11] <valchers> em.. for server this 8.04 beta is good, or take older release?
[14:11] <fx|RabBit> mewt: well i cant follow whith that i had VERY best results with th model tha i mentioned
[14:11] <fragged> DOOM_NX, I'd say the package would be depricated and something better in its place, because of the popularity of MP3's there would definately be something better out there..
[14:12] <anton> its working right now but when i connect it to linksys wireless theres no connection
[14:12] <geronimaldo> no connection to the internet?
[14:12] <fx|RabBit> gawd my kvm switch is swallowing half of the letters again...
[14:12] <DOOM_NX> fragged, sorry, i din't get u :/
[14:12] <mewt> fx|RabBit, that;s why i said it was a gamble..found others like me who had several problems with them..others seem to be quite happy with the gainward cards
[14:12] <geronimaldo> what ip address has your router given you. . (ifconfig)
[14:12] <anton> yes sorry to bother you that much geronimaldo
[14:12] <hikejinx> DOOM_NX: it's an uncommon plugin. I saw people have installed it on ubuntu though. I'm not sure why you would need it though.
[14:12] <fishback> hi all
[14:13]  * Yarcanox waves
[14:13] <valchers> for server 8.04 beta is good, or take older release?
[14:13] <andax> anton: i have a linksys router too. Always had some trouble with it. I am looking now to install a 3rd party firmware which supports WDS
[14:13] <LEEU1> WAAR BEN JE LEEUW
[14:13] <fishback> anyone can help me about java plugin on firefox3beta5?
[14:13] <DOOM_NX> hikejinx, i want it so that i can listen to a webradio streaming using mp3pro encoding
[14:13] <izinucs> DOOM_NX, nevermind.. I looked it up.. it's a  streaming codec.. I found a plug-in for xmms for you.. that should keep you from banging your head against  the wall trying to get an RPM working ... checkout http://www.all4mp3.com/tools/sw_ct_demo.html
[14:13] <fx|RabBit> mewt: as i said i found it especially performant, i bought it after i red some test reviews and i built it into meanwhile 4 of my customers pcs and they were all smiling like acme
[14:14] <DistroJockey> valchers: wait 16 days if you can :)
[14:14] <negge> fishback  what's the issue?
[14:14] <hikejinx> DOOM_NX: does the site offer alternative streams?
[14:14] <fishback> i use gutsy 7.10 and i installed firefox3b5
[14:14] <BloodRoses> this may sound like a weird question, but a brief Google search didn't turn up anything... why would there be a /dev/hdb with a size of 250MB on a default Ubuntu installation?
[14:14] <DOOM_NX> yes izinucs that thing is .rpm
[14:14] <andax> anton: but unfortunately it cant be accessed by cable. So if something goes wrong at the firmware install the router is trashed.
[14:14] <fishback> but i cant open any java pages
[14:14] <DOOM_NX> hikejinx, nope
[14:14] <valchers> i cant, i have free test server on 30 days
[14:14] <fishback> or applications :S
[14:14] <negge> fishback  have you installed sun java 6?
[14:14] <fishback> sure
[14:14] <valchers> on this moment there is frebsd
[14:14] <negge> and it did work in firefox 2?
[14:15] <fishback> it works with ff2
[14:15] <negge> okay
[14:15] <fishback> but i installed ff3b5
[14:15] <negge> yeah
[14:15] <izinucs> DOOM_NX, ah you're right.. I didn't bother to look sorry.. let me check some more..
[14:15] <fishback> and java plugin doesnt work
[14:15] <mewt> fx|RabBit, good luck them :)
[14:15] <DOOM_NX> izinucs, i got mine from that site too
[14:15] <negge> fishback have you tried searching for firefox in synaptic, there should be plugin for firefox there
[14:15] <anton> andax: what should i do?
[14:15] <geronimaldo> andax, I was tempted for a while with my linksys but eventually manged to sort it
[14:16] <geronimaldo> I´d never buy another one tho
[14:16] <DOOM_NX> according to this site (option 3): http://users.softlab.ntua.gr/~ttsiod/mp3pro.html it is possible to install the plugin
[14:16] <DOOM_NX> what do u think?
[14:16] <anton> how??
[14:16] <fishback> i did, i installed all java etx: java-plugin java-jre java-bin
[14:16] <negge> okay
[14:16] <anton> geronimaldo: how?
[14:16] <geronimaldo> anton, once we know what your ip address is. you can connect to the router
[14:16] <geronimaldo> and change the settings. so if your address is 192.168.1.*
[14:17] <hikejinx> DOOM_NX: give me the link to the site
[14:17] <DOOM_NX> hikejinx, what site?
[14:17] <hikejinx> for the stream
[14:17] <DOOM_NX> oh
[14:17] <fragged> geronimaldo, looking at some vunrebilities today, apparently some browsers have a JS hole that allows connecting to a router from a client computer inside the network, cool stuff :P
[14:17] <geronimaldo> then 192.168.1.1 will probably be your default gateway and the means to checking your settings
[14:17] <fragged> scary too, other than http what else might you be able to do
[14:17] <negge> fishback the problem could be that firefox plugins normally installs to a directory named firefox (I'm sorry but I don't know where it is right now as I'm not at home), but firefox 3 is installed in a folder called firefox30b5 or something like that
[14:17] <DOOM_NX> http://48kbps.xtc-radio.gr:9400 here u are hikejinx
[14:17] <fx|RabBit> mewt: basically i think you can have bad luck with a bogus part from any brand, you are never safe from that... in that case go exchange it;)
[14:17] <negge> so you'll need to copy the plugins to the new folder in order to "activate" them
[14:17] <anton> yes?
[14:17] <hikejinx> DOOM_NX: thanks
[14:17] <negge> atleast that's the case for gnash
[14:18] <andax> geronimaldo: in my own experience, it is technically a awesome piece of work but confusingly complicated if something does not work at first or second attempt.
[14:18] <anton> geronimaldo: can i pm u?
[14:18] <geronimaldo> yep
[14:19] <geronimaldo> andax, I might try it once I get a new router. have you successfully done one?
[14:19] <mewt> fx|RabBit, ye, that i know...however i tend to believe that a faulty card can only happen once ever so often in a production line and the fact that most of the people i know who bought similar cards to mine had the same problems gives a lot of food for thought
[14:19] <anton> got a messenger geronimaldo?
[14:19] <DOOM_NX> izinucs, if u're still searching i suggest u take a look at http://users.softlab.ntua.gr/~ttsiod/mp3pro.html and see option 3
[14:19] <mewt> fx|RabBit, For all I know it could have been a faulty shipment since we all bought them around the same time
[14:19] <anton> i cant caught you here..
[14:19] <anton> :(
[14:20] <andax> And... somehow it seemed i renamed the accesspoints of neighbours instead of my own. As they all have left the default IP and password which was the same like on my one :-/
[14:20] <andax> i didnt notice
[14:20] <fx|RabBit> mewt: that kinda gives me thougth indeed, as a matter of fact youre the first one that i ever heard of trouble with that ones...
[14:20] <geronimaldo> yep.. you on gmail
[14:20] <anton> geronimaldo: ahmm pidgin
[14:20] <mewt> fx|RabBit,  :
[14:20] <geronimaldo> gnice5
[14:21] <fx|RabBit> mewt: and as a bonus the model that i mentioned is so quiet you almost dont hear it - only if yu put your head aside the computer...
[14:21] <mewt> fx|RabBit, i guess my next card will be a bfg or xfx even though they actually cost more to buy :(
[14:21] <mewt> fx|RabBit, got any reviews or benchmarks ?>
[14:21] <hikejinx> DOOM_NX: I installed it and it didn't work for me.
[14:21] <fx|RabBit> xfx are nicely pimped, whcih is precisely he reason why i dont buy em, overclockingnever prolongs durability...
[14:22] <fx|RabBit> mewt: not on those, sry..
[14:22] <anton> razel_elvin
[14:22] <mewt> fx|RabBit, ye but the fact that they give you a longer garuntee since it's factory overclocked usually puts my mind to rest
[14:22] <anton> geronimaldo: where r u ?
[14:22] <christoz> Hello room ,where are the settings for activating the skydome image in compiz...?
[14:22] <mewt> fx|RabBit, also as long as you don't push your card too much and always keep temperatures in check you shouldnt have any durability problems anyway
[14:22] <fx|RabBit> mewt: hehe in that case be sure to grab one hehe
[14:23] <fx|RabBit> mewt: naw i dont overclock outta principle..
[14:23] <mewt> fx|RabBit, :) sure will as soon as I get the money
[14:23] <geronimaldo> anton, sorry I was singing onto to pidgin
[14:23] <mewt> fx|RabBit, I dont like overclocking myself, one small mistake with a voltage or multiplier and you get that nice smell of burnt silicon in the air
[14:24] <Concretesledge> i can't figure out how to install this theme
[14:24] <fx|RabBit> mewt: hehe i hope i can upgrade for myself soon too, until now i only built them in for customers and that makes me cry XD
[14:24] <geronimaldo> anton, connect to gnice5
[14:24] <fx|RabBit> mewt: equalling to the smell of burn bills yeah hehe
 DOOM_NX: I installed it and it didn't work for me. -> what do u mean u installed it? u converted the rpm to deb?
[14:24] <mewt> fx|RabBit, ye I know the feeling mate :) been building pcs for customers with PCI-E for ages now...and Im still on agp myself
[14:24] <anton> geronimaldo: wheres that? im new here in linux
[14:24] <hikejinx> DOOM_NX: yes
[14:24] <DOOM_NX> see here please hikejinx: http://users.softlab.ntua.gr/~ttsiod/mp3pro.html
[14:24] <DOOM_NX> option 3
[14:25] <geronimaldo> anton, whatś your gmail address?
[14:25] <fx|RabBit> mewt: !!! kk atr least i have a 790gt
[14:25] <fx|RabBit> +0
[14:25] <mewt> fx|RabBit, im still on the said 6800gx
[14:25] <mewt> gs*
[14:25] <DOOM_NX> "copying libmp3PRO.so into /usr/lib/xmms/Input/"
[14:25] <anton> razel_elvin@yahoo.com
[14:25] <DOOM_NX> how do u copy that?
[14:25] <fx|RabBit> mewt: well that one used to rock hard, so not tht bad anyways;)
[14:26] <mewt> fx|RabBit, poor card, she's unable to cope with anything I throw at her nowadays
[14:26] <fx|RabBit> mewt: k, dud been nice talking but i gotta get back to work by sometime
[14:26] <andax> geronimaldo: if i would buy a new one, eventually one of these USRobotics devices. I heard the brand linksys has been obsoleted by cisco
[14:26] <mewt> fx|RabBit, hehe cya
[14:26] <fx|RabBit> mewt: alongside
[14:27] <mewt> andax, not really, cisco are keeping linksys going quite well as far as I know..atleast we still sell them were I work
[14:27] <christoz> I have a question...where are the settings for activating the skydome image in compiz...?
[14:27] <christoz> or is any plugin for it?
[14:27] <christoz> to download
[14:27] <andax> mewt: but they will stop producing new devices or not?
[14:27] <mewt> andax, as far as I know, no
[14:28] <Pici> !offtopic
[14:28] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[14:28] <Nasra> I am new to Gutsy Gibbon  ( Ubuntu 7.10 )...which I like very much at first sight....but I am having a problem I don't know how to save a file int /home and then be able to view / find it .....can you help me please?
[14:28]  * mewt hides
[14:28] <donkey7186> question does anyone know how to make a drop down box with links in KOMPOZER?
[14:29] <mewt> Nasra, you don't normally save files in /home, usually you save them in /home/username
[14:30] <unop_> Nasra, you should save files in /home/<username> as that is your home directory, you can view and find them by then browsing to your home directory
[14:30] <Nasra> mewt: yes so you go /home/xxxxx whatever you have in there.....and then just click it right?
[14:30] <hikejinx> DOOM_NX: I'm sorry, can you give me the stream again, I lost connection earlier and restarted
[14:30] <Nasra> unop / mewt: you guys hitting my question which is very good....
[14:30] <DOOM_NX> http://48kbps.xtc-radio.gr:9400
[14:31] <DOOM_NX> it needs to play at 44kHz
[14:31] <hikejinx> ok
[14:31] <unop_> Nasra, it depends on the file in question .. usually you can just double-click the file (as you do on other OSes)
[14:31] <Nasra> unop / mewt so they all go in there all the time....when preparing a let's say a new folder as well...
[14:31] <andax> Nasra: you would require root access but you need to know lots before doing such things. I messed up a system by using GUI apps as root and did fall into inextricable problems.
[14:32] <Nasra> I don't wanna mess it up ...see?
[14:32] <mewt> Nasra, they dont necessarily go in there by default, like in windows you can create folders and files in your My documents, you can create files and folder in your home directory which is /home/<username>
[14:32] <ir2> 1
[14:32] <unop_> Nasra, where you save files is your business really .. it can be anywhere you like (within reason and permissions permitting)
[14:32] <Nasra> unop: what about executable programs.....?
[14:33] <Robert125> How do I import my contacts and emails from an older to a newer version f Thunderbird?
[14:33] <unop_> Nasra, if the files are set to be executable, you can just double-click them -- but in some cases, you might want to run them in a shell / terminal
[14:33] <Nasra> I am the admin for my box here....just wanna learn when things need to ...and where to find it ....you see tha....but so far you guys answered some my questions....which is greast
[14:33] <Nasra> great
[14:34] <Nasra> unop....you are aswering what I want to hear and learn it
[14:34] <Robert125> sorry, false channel
[14:34] <izinucs> Robert125, I think you can export your contacts in one vcard file.. check the menus for that option.
[14:35] <Nasra> unop :  Does it allow to do PMing in here
[14:35] <andax> Nasra: i thought its okay and i dont know the reasons why. I thought because synaptic uses root privileges and works, other apps should work too. But it doesnt. After reboot i had no internet access, xsession did not start up and grub configuration was overwritten by default values.
[14:35] <FD> i have problem configure sis vga card somone can help me ? thanks
[14:36] <Nasra> andax: you indeed had some serious problem in there....oh lol....
[14:36] <andax> Nasra: so its completely messed up and fresh installing the entire system would be the easiest to repair
[14:36] <unop_> Nasra, you can pm here but you need to be registered on freenode and ask the other user's permission first
[14:36] <[Danux]> join #ubuntu-fr
[14:36] <[Danux]> oups ^^
[14:37] <Nasra> unop / andax ...had I known linux was so good especially Ubuntu would it be on it a long time.....
[14:37] <FD_F> i have problem configure sis vga card someone can help me ? thanks
[14:37] <unop_> Nasra, it's never too late or early, welcome aboard!!
[14:37] <Nasra> unop: how do I register in here?
[14:37] <Nasra> thaks
[14:37] <Nasra> unop: beautiful
[14:37] <unop_> !register > Nasra (see the PM from ubotu)
[14:37] <majikins> hello - I've been using dd to clone a disk - its takes a long time as compared to ghost
[14:38] <Nasra> !ubotu
[14:38] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[14:38] <hikejinx> DOOM_NX: I extracted the codec from the rpm and can send it. I loaded it into xmms and it says its working, but I could not get the sound to play. If you want the file so you can try the alternative methods, let me know.
[14:38] <majikins> I had to wait overnite an a bit to clone an 80gig sata disk
[14:38] <majikins> I've been googling and can't to seem to find a way to speed up
[14:39] <Juhaz> have you specified a reasonably large block size?
[14:39] <DOOM_NX> hikejinx,
[14:39] <DOOM_NX> sec
[14:39] <majikins> I waited 40 mins with Ghost
[14:39] <hikejinx> DOOM_NX: ok
[14:39] <andax> Nasra: yes, it is really remarkable how much has been done inside that short time since ubuntu is in wider use. I have used mandrake since 1999 and am impressed from ubuntu as well
[14:39] <majikins> I got the bs=32256 - apparently this is optimum
[14:40] <majikins> transfer rate is 1.1Mbs
[14:40] <Nasra> unop: if you were to save a file or open a new folder .....what would you do....my last question but not least......thanks in advace.....I know you just told me....I am saving logs....
[14:40] <DOOM_NX> hikejinx, see what's happening to me... i converted rmp to deb with alien and installed it... but now the stream isn't playing at all... i went to /usr/lib/xmms/Input and renamed libmp3PRO.so to libmp3PRO.so.bak and now the stream is playing... (at half sample rate though cause it doesn't use mp3pro decoding)
[14:40] <Nasra> andax: how the new version coming along....has it been alot of corrections?
[14:40] <unop_> Nasra, depends what you want to do with the file really.
[14:41] <Painkiller> I have a problem with liblaunchpad-integration1 on 8.04RLC it broke 2 dependencies...
[14:41] <Cyntrox> Hey, anyone know how to resume a BitTorrent session in Ubuntu?
[14:41] <Pici> Painkiller: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[14:41] <Painkiller> use azureus
[14:41] <arcticpenguin380> does ubuntu support hybrid drives?
[14:42] <Cyntrox> Yeah, but if I've already started downloading a torrent...?
[14:42] <Painkiller> iyes
[14:42] <Painkiller> I know
[14:42] <Nasra> unop: this is what I usually do.....I get programs (off the internet ) and I keep it for later use then when I ready to use it just go there and open it and then try to execute if programs....sometime just wanna read the readme.txt...etc...etc....
[14:42] <RSO> Cyntrox: You only need to reload the tracker in whatever app you're using now
[14:42] <DOOM_NX> hikejinx, is ur libmp3PRO.so playing properly?
[14:43] <pajamian> arcticpenguin380: what do you mean by hybrid drives?
[14:43] <Cyntrox> RSO: How do I do that? I'm still using BitTorrent but I could install something else...
[14:43] <unop_> Nasra, just imagine you are using windows, how would you do stuff? it's pretty much the same here too
[14:43] <Nasra> but I want to have in my /home / xxxx
[14:43] <Painkiller> if you open the same torrent, save in the same place, it will check for the downloaded data, that way it will resume :)
[14:43] <hikejinx> i have no sound DOOM_NX
[14:43] <Cyntrox> Painkiller: Okay, thanks
[14:43] <RSO> Cyntrox: Well, you need to put the partial file in the target folder of your new program, and re-download the .torrent file.
[14:43] <Painkiller> welcome
[14:44] <Painkiller> use lxdoom
[14:44] <hikejinx> DOOM_NX: perfect here now
[14:44] <Finnish_> Speaking of Torrents
[14:44] <DOOM_NX> hikejinx, how?
[14:44] <Cyntrox> RSO: Okay, thanks. I already have the .torrent around, I believe...
[14:44] <Nasra> unop: I was just about to tell you that...but it's like truck different shifts different brands....etc....
[14:44] <hikejinx> I also renamed it, and it just works. I didn't use alien though.
[14:44] <Finnish_> I'd like to send a 200mb file to my friend
[14:44] <Finnish_> Via Torrent
[14:44] <Finnish_> Actually via Transmission
[14:44] <Finnish_> How to do that
[14:45] <Nasra> unop: is like learning different language same thing but differnt concept....of doing it thats all...
[14:45] <andax> Nasra: i have installed ubuntu 7.10 on my 600E thinkpad and on a compaq evo. As on all distributions sound did not work on my laptop (while with windows it does). I only get these beep beep beep sounds out of it. Power management is still an issue. Else, nearby everything worked very well.
[14:45] <unop_> Nasra, the best way to learn how it works, is to try it out, it really is not that different or hard
[14:45] <hikejinx> Ah, it's playing at 22khz, but sounds good
[14:45] <Cyntrox> Finnish_: Why do you want to use torrent? The whole idea of torrent is peer-to-peer... Which means that many people send it to each other.
[14:45] <RSO> Cyntrox: Perfect
[14:45] <beginnersmind> i was able to experience windows vista for awhile, and what can i say, ubuntu is way better.
[14:45] <Cyntrox> beginnersmind: Signed
[14:45] <Finnish_> Well, thats right... Any better idea
[14:45] <Finnish_> ?
[14:46] <pajamian> Finnish_: if you just want to send one file to a friend then bittorrent is not a good solution.  A better solution would probablty be along the lines of sftp
[14:46] <Juhaz> majikins, I really doubt that's anywhere close to optimum for huge amount of data, but it shouldn't be that slow either. you're not dumping it on the same disk?
[14:46] <Cyntrox> Finnish_: You could probably find something to send it with on google.
[14:46] <mttubun> hello
[14:46] <Nasra> unop: don't wanna mess it up .....in 2 weeks being with Ubunut Gutsy Gibbon....2 install so far...that is why I ask all of questions...so I can learn.....you know.....
[14:46] <pajamian> Finnish_: what OS is your friend running?
[14:46] <Finnish_> MS Vista
[14:47] <majikins> Juhaz : nope - the dump was successfull so it did work
[14:47] <unop_> Nasra,  i'd be very surprised if you messed up with something as simple as this :) does that say something?
[14:48] <Nasra> unop / mewt / andax: ....just beautiful thanks alot....
[14:48] <pajamian> Finnish_: yuk, well probably the easiest way is to install ssh-server on your computer and give him an account so he can connect to it and download via an sftp program for windows.  If you have a NAT router make sure to forward port 22.
[14:48] <savetheWorld> !register
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 Ah, it's playing at 22khz, but sounds good -> Yeah standard mp3 decoders decode at 22kHz... mp3pro plays anywhere this way. but to get full quality at 44kHz u need mp3pro decoder
[14:48] <egoleo> someone help with install nvu and good graphic authoring tool
[14:48] <andax> Nasra: I especially wonder because of the sound. i wonder why this is still that complicated. It is a nearby 10 year old laptop and a very popular one too. And still unresolved issues.
[14:48] <Nasra> unop: I know but it's a different world ...you know.....any site you recommend to read about and from Ubuntu?
[14:49] <Nasra> andax you will be alright.....
[14:49] <hikejinx> gotcha... well at least you get your stream DOOM_NX
[14:49] <DJones> !nvu | egoleo: nvu is no longer being developed, its replacement is Kompzer
[14:49] <ubotu> egoleo: nvu is no longer being developed, its replacement is Kompzer: kompozer is WYSIWYG HTML editor for easily creating web pages, and the continuation of the dead Nvu project. It is available in !Universe on !Gutsy, !Backports on !Feisty, and from  « deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/tonyyarusso/ubuntu edgy universe » for Edgy.  (Dapper still pending)
[14:49] <SusePilot> i am building a new pc with a core 2 duo E8400 wolfdale it will be running Ubuntu 8.04 and opensuse 10.3 (then 11.0) can anyone reccomend a motherboard?
[14:49] <unop_> Nasra, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[14:49] <Frozenball> Finnish_, moi
[14:50] <egoleo> thnx
[14:50] <Finnish_> Frozenball: Ugh
[14:50] <Nasra> unop: as always your instructions are important to me....thanks alot......
[14:50] <pajamian> brb
[14:50] <andax> Nasra: but like i already mentioned, its on all distributions. Therewith not ubuntu specific i would say.
[14:51] <sipior> SusePilot: as long as it supports your cpu out of the box, i don't think it matters a great deal
 gotcha... well at least you get your stream DOOM_NX -> well yes i already used to get the stream... but i need to install this mp3pro plugin somehow :/
[14:51] <egoleo> but i am not finding Kompzer
[14:51] <hikejinx> did you try to install winamp under wine?
[14:52] <maek> hikejinx, dont use winamp use XMMS
[14:52] <sipior> egoleo: kompozer, i believe
[14:52] <SusePilot> sipior: well i use AMD now and i was told that linux didnt play well with intel chipsets is that not true?
[14:52] <egoleo> thnx got it
[14:52] <hikejinx> didn't the one page have the guy installing winamp under wine to play?
[14:52] <maek> http://www.xmms.org/ hikejinx
[14:52] <egoleo> but u know of any good graphics tool like photoshop?
[14:52] <egoleo> for linux
[14:52] <Pici> egoleo: The Gimp
[14:52] <sipior> SusePilot: works fine. if you're nervous about it, you can always check against the supported list. but i very much doubt you would have issues. i certainly have not.
[14:52] <maek> XMMS has nearly all the features of WINAMP
[14:52] <Cyntrox> what's the name of the default Ubuntu firewall again?
[14:53] <maek> egoleo, The gimp
[14:53] <Pici> Cyntrox: iptables
[14:53] <hikejinx> maek: I was helping DOOM_NX install some weird mp3pro plugin that runs only in xmms, but not easily.
[14:53] <Cyntrox> Thanks, Pici
[14:53] <Pici> Cyntrox: The gui for it is Firestarter in Gnome.
[14:53] <egoleo> apart from that what else plse
[14:53] <hikejinx> maek: there was a howto for winamp under wine that seemed more straightforward.
[14:53] <maek> egoleo, The GIMP is included by default in Ubuntu
[14:53] <pedro> i enabled root password, how do i place root in the login window? and how do i get rid of the annoying messages that pop up about logging in as root?
[14:53] <omar> Guys, what's the best way to clean the source.list ?
[14:53] <egoleo> oh ok
[14:54] <egoleo> any graphic too again?
[14:54] <DOOM_NX> well no i didn't install winamp
[14:54] <maek> or try Adobe's crap web based photoshop
[14:54] <DOOM_NX> and probably won't
[14:54] <sjovan_> omar: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the stuff you don't like. ctrl+k to remove a whole line
[14:54] <sipior> pedro: that's generally considered poor practise
[14:54] <Nasra> andax: it's okay....I am being forced to learn linux...for a software I have use and learn....but first Ubuntu for the next 3 months.....
[14:54] <DOOM_NX> because i want to use custom alsa device with xmms
[14:54] <omar> sjovan_: Thanks
[14:55] <pedro> morning... anyone here use ubuntuworking as root is a lifestyle.. i know this... but is there a way to get rid of the messages? and place add root to gdm login window?
[14:55] <pedro> whoops
[14:55] <pedro> sorry bout that typo
[14:55] <sjovan_> omar: remember... don't remove the stuff you need. sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak could be smart to do first :)
[14:55] <maek> pedro its not advisable to run root 24/7
[14:56] <pedro> haha
[14:56] <sjovan_> maek: why would you do that in ubuntu?
[14:56] <pedro> obviously, no one has the answer
[14:56] <pedro> just predetermined responses
[14:56] <maek> its better to be a user with administrative privileges
[14:56] <pedro> thanks anyway
[14:56] <omar> sjovan_: Yes, thanks for mentioning it. :)
[14:56] <sjovan_> omar: np :)
[14:56] <maek> do what sjovan_ ??
[14:57] <cwraig> pedro,  you can enable root login from system -->administration-->login window
[14:57] <sipior> pedro: well, i'm sure it's possible. you can simply modify gdm to permit root logins
[14:57] <sipior> pedro: but then again, if you don't know how to do it, should you really be doing it?
[14:57] <Joelito> what good IDE for python-gtk, with code completation, do you recommend or know?
[14:58] <cwraig> pedro, on the security tab you can enable admininstrator login
[14:58] <pedro> thank you
[14:58] <andax> Nasra: would be interesting to hear which app it is that inspired you to join the ubuntu community :)
[14:59] <unop> Joelito, emacs and vim both do a good job, try both out and pick one, code-completion might require installation of additional packages
[14:59] <cwraig> pedro, if you figure out how to auto login as root let me know, i have asked oround but i just get shouted at for using root on a daily basis
[14:59] <Exteris> Joelito, bluefish
[14:59] <sipior> auto-login as root?
[15:00]  * sipior shakes his head
[15:00] <Joelito> thanks, searching :)
[15:00] <Nasra> andax is open software for telephony to go around the world....
[15:00] <pedro> cwraig: i hear ya man.. and allowing root login doesnt place root in the login window either.. that sucks.. maybe time for new distro.. maybe slack?
[15:00] <cwraig> sipior, thats the response i always get, but newer an answer on how to do it :P
[15:01] <Juhaz> Joelito, take a look at pida too. dunno if anjuta does python, but it's probably worth a look
[15:01] <Nasra> andax : using servers established allover..
[15:02] <Juhaz> the day someone answers that question we might just as well give up and go back to windows, that's what you want to turn it into anyway.
[15:02] <Cyntrox> what's the bash command for moving files?
[15:02] <sipior> cwraig: you can simply tell gdm to permit root logins. it's possible that gdm is specifically designed not to allow auto-logins for root, and you may have to edit the source code for that. should be simple for you.
[15:02] <jrib> Cyntrox: mv
[15:02] <LollinopiL> everytime I close an ODT document, i ear a sound from the CPU ( sounds like the allarm's sound, not the common sound!!) ... how can I stop it ?
[15:02] <jrib> !cli > Cyntrox (read the private message from ubotu)
[15:02] <Cyntrox> jrib: thanks
[15:02] <sipior> cwraig: so there's your answer
[15:02] <pedro> cwraig: its because people in this channel are like microsoft employees, they do not want you to think for yourself.
[15:02] <bazhang> root on irc? ruh roh
[15:03] <jrib> pedro: are you aware of sudo?
[15:03] <pedro> you bet i am
[15:03] <cwraig> pedro, lets not fire the (free) help
[15:03] <sipior> pedro: if you can think for yourself, why can you not figure out how to modify gdm to do what you want?
[15:03] <pedro> im also aware that i have always worked as root on other distros
[15:03] <andax> Nasra: i am using wengophone to connect my mobile with the computer. It was astonishingly easy to set up. It detected my phone automatically and knew how to communicate without any separate software from the manufacturer itself :)
[15:03] <bazhang> pedro tone down the rhetoric please; people here are volunteers
[15:03] <andax> Nasra: else i havent done anything related with phones
[15:03] <jrib> pedro: the people here are trying to help you.  being root all the time is a very bad idea.  And more importantly, it's completely unnecessary
[15:03] <cwraig> what i have found is that i can just start X without using GDM at all as root & that works well
[15:04] <pedro> wow, these people are like wind up toys, they use predetermined responses, then speak only through ubotu.. its like they arent even human
[15:04] <Joelito> Juhaz: Thanks :)
[15:04] <jacekowski> i have simple usb camera
[15:04] <jacekowski> what i can use to jus see image from camera?
[15:04] <sipior> pedro: i am totally a robot, man.
[15:04] <Nasra> andax : there is an open source telephony software called: Asterisk that is what I am interested about to learn.....
[15:04] <jacekowski> just simple, i need to check is it working?
[15:05] <maek> !root | pedro
[15:05] <ubotu> pedro: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[15:05] <unop> ha ha
[15:05] <pedro> lmao
[15:05] <pedro> ahahahahahahaha
[15:05] <cwraig> alright thats enough, this channel is just looking out for the everyday user, i can understand that (no one) not everyone "needs" to be root,
[15:05] <pedro> thanks maek, i needed that
[15:05] <bazhang> we are ubotu's legions
[15:05] <sipior> all hail ubotu!
[15:05] <Nasra> andax: is called future of telephony by O'reilly...is amazing very powerful
[15:05]  * pedro salutes ubotu
[15:06] <maek> its perfectly easy enough to administer your system without having to log in as root
[15:06] <pedro> im sure it is
[15:06] <pedro> but who asked that?
[15:06] <bazhang> does not feel as leet though ;]
[15:06] <maek> all the Ubuntu developers worked hard hour after hour to make sure of that
[15:06] <sipior> pedro: did configuring gdm to permit root logins not work? or have you not even tried yet?
[15:07] <cwraig> it just gives you that feeling like your running a SVN (i know its git) build of the kerenel :P
[15:07] <mad_max02> hey guys I gotta question: can I remove windowsxp passwords from ubuntu live dvd ??
[15:07] <pajamian> pedro if you want a real root account it's easy enough to do, just sudo -i to get an actual root shell, then you can assign a password with the passwd command.
[15:07] <maek> no mad_max02
[15:07] <unop> maek, it's not just ubuntu .. infact it's the guys at gnome who have configured GDM that way
[15:07] <bazhang> mad_max02: not very likely
[15:07] <markmuetz> hi guys, i've upgraded to hardy heron and have hit some problems
[15:07] <andax> huh? how have i removed the menu bar in gnome-terminal?
[15:07] <bazhang> markmuetz: there is a channel for that
[15:08] <unop> markmuetz, head to #ubuntu+1 please
[15:08] <markmuetz> cool, cheers
[15:08] <mad_max02> can I transfer files to another computer over network with ubuntu live dvd ??
[15:08] <unop> mad_max02, sure
[15:08] <pajamian> mad_max02: yes
[15:08] <DaveTarmac> I'm looking for a piece of web development software, preferably for GNOME rather than KDE - but I'm not that picky. the only thing I really would want is the function to work on a remote system. Anyone got any recommendations for me?
[15:08] <pajamian> mad_max02: in fact, I just did that a couple nights ago to backup my son's computer before re-installing ubuntu on it.
[15:08] <mad_max02> What do I need for that ?? just boot live dvd ???
[15:09] <pajamian> mad_max02: live CD, yes
[15:09] <maek> andax right click the terminal and check show menu bar
[15:09] <fluteflute> DaveTarmac: what kind of software?
[15:09] <cwraig> DaveTarmac, i used to use gphpedit or kate
[15:09] <crunchybumble> does the new live cd have testdisk on it?
[15:09] <DOOM_NX> hikejinx, i found the problem... i had to use OSS output plugin
[15:09] <pajamian> DaveTarmac: I work on remote systems all the time just with ssh.  What are your requirements?
[15:09] <DOOM_NX> but i need ALSA cause i have configured alsa tables :/
[15:09] <miguel_c> hi there! im running xubuntu and i run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. I set up the keyboard layout to pt and variant to pt. everything is working but.. i cant make the euro symbol, and all the symbols that depends on alt Gr key
[15:09] <mad_max02> okay thanks
[15:10] <miguel_c> not even with the ctrl+alt combo..
[15:10] <andax> maek: thanks :)
[15:10] <pajamian> !xubuntu | miguel_c
[15:10] <ubotu> miguel_c: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels
[15:10] <brandon__> Anyone happen to know how to check your video ram in ubuntu?  Just curious as to what the OS is detecting for me.
[15:11] <DaveTarmac> pajamian: I want to be able to, like you can in Dreamweaver, connect to a remote system and edit PHP directly on the server rather then using a seperate FTP to send them ot the server
[15:11] <hikejinx> DOOM_NX: Great!
[15:11] <cwraig> i think you can do that with kate
[15:11] <pajamian> DaveTarmac: I just log into the server with ssh and use my favorite console-based text editor (in my case emacs).
[15:12] <brandon__> Anyone happen to know how to check your video ram in ubuntu?  Just curious as to what the OS is detecting for me.
[15:12] <pajamian> DaveTarmac: it's more a case of what's available on the remote server than what you have on your computer.
[15:12] <DaveTarmac> pajamian: I'm afraid I'm a wuss and prefer something a little more GUI like. It's my one downfall ;)
[15:12] <Viden> ﻿Does anyone know of a good exchange server monitor addon for nagios ?
[15:13] <pajamian> DaveTarmac: you can use a remote X connection via ssh as well, just as long as the remote server supports it.  If you log in via ssh and try to use gedit you'll find out if that is supported.
[15:13] <miguel_c> im using xubuntu why can't i use the alt gr combination symbol?
[15:13] <BSG75> is there a way to get rid of all panels in gnome?
[15:13] <DaveTarmac> pajamian: for instance, I use Dreamweaver (on mac sadly) which connects to remote servers using S/FTP
[15:13] <cwraig> DaveTarmac, if you install the kate editor you should just be able to dump an ftp address into the open file window & it will connect
[15:13] <miguel_c> not even the ctrl+alt+f2 or f1
[15:13] <DaveTarmac> cwraig: OK, cheers - I'll give that a try tonight
[15:13] <amenado> DaveTarmac-> fish:///  orotocol on konqueror
[15:14] <pajamian> DaveTarmac: that said, I would recommend that you get to know console based programs for workign on remote servers.  They are much faster because the remote server doesn't have to send graphics over the internet and once you get used to it you'll find you like it better.
[15:14] <maek> BSG75, why would you wan't to do that ??
[15:14] <kraut> hi
[15:14] <brandon__> Anyone happen to know how to check your video ram in ubuntu?  Just curious as to what the OS is detecting for me.
[15:14] <bazhang> hi kraut
[15:14] <kraut> which kernel do i need on ubuntu/dapper to boot a galaxy 4200 with lsi-controller?
[15:14] <BSG75> maek: I am setting up a profile for my 7 year old daughter .. she only needs access to the icon on the desktop
[15:14] <sipior> brandon__: asking over and over is not likely to get your question answered more quickly.
[15:14] <pajamian> miguel_c: please go to #xubuntu for xubuntu support.
[15:15] <kraut> i thought, the galaxies are certified under dapper by ubuntu, but the server won't boot, because it cant find any boot device
[15:15] <BSG75> my only other option will be to install fluxbox or enlightenment
[15:15] <jaffarkelshac> doees anyone know the cad program nx by ugs, is there a version for ubuntu
[15:15] <maek> use the config manager that came with your graphics card drivers brandon_
[15:15] <amenado> Brandon_-> dont know if  xdpyinfo have that info or xwininfo
[15:15] <cwraig> pajamian, unless the server is yours tho you dont get ssh access
[15:15] <maek> BSG75, Just use a blank gnome panel
[15:15] <DaveTarmac> currently, I use BlueFish for it, but that requires a separate FTP program (i believe - if not I haven't found that function yet)
[15:15] <maek> maybe with some launchers for your daughter
[15:16] <pajamian> cwraig: not for a cheap web account, true.  There are many hosting accounts that you can get with shell access, though.
[15:16] <cwraig> ive got a large number of sites on reseller hosting & they dont give me ssh access only FTP
[15:16] <Adantan_Alex> ok
[15:16] <BSG75> maek: yeah I could do that .. I wish gnome was a bit more customizable .. i am sure there is a good reason why you can't get rid of all panels ..
[15:16] <Adantan_Alex> ok i cant get the root pass word for my computer....
[15:16] <pajamian> you can't?  I never tried to get rid of the last panel in gnome.
[15:17] <pajamian> !root | Adantan_Alex
[15:17] <ubotu> Adantan_Alex: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[15:17] <maek> and make the panel nice and big so your daughter can easily see it
[15:17] <Adantan_Alex> thanks
[15:17] <LollinopiL> everytime I close an ODT document, i ear a sound from the CPU ( sounds like the allarm's sound, not the common sound!!) ... how can I stop it ?
[15:17] <bazhang> if you do delete all the panels then remember the !resetpanels factoid it might come in handy ;]
[15:17] <maek> what is the application she is allowed to use BSG75 ??
[15:18] <BSG75> firefox, gimp and her music software to sync her ipod (I think it will be amarok)
[15:19] <BSG75> maek: I already have tinyproxy running to only give access to the sites she's allowed to go play on
[15:19] <i2c4u> hi, is it alright to talk about  hardy here?
[15:19] <pajamian> !hardy | i2c4u
[15:19] <ubotu> i2c4u: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[15:19] <bazhang> there is a channel for that i2c4u #ubuntu+1
[15:19] <genii> i2c4u: Better in #ubuntu
[15:19] <genii> i2c4u: Better in #ubuntu+1 rather
[15:19] <i2c4u> ok thanks
[15:19] <BSG75> maek: and will setup a instant message server tonight so her friends and can logon and chat .. so she feels all grown up .. but everything is within limits .. of course
[15:19] <bazhang> #+1
[15:20] <maek> perfect Just put some launchers to those apps you mentioned BSG75 and maybe a window selector in the panel
[15:20] <white_eagle> I accidentaly clicked Ctrl-Left Alt-F12 and a black screen with a typing line ( you know what I mean ) showed up, when I tried to type something it didn't respond so I did a hard reboot
[15:20] <white_eagle> what is that shortcut used for??
[15:20] <pajamian> BSG75: maybe you should put edubuntu on it for het.
[15:20] <pajamian> *her
[15:21] <Exteris> white_eagle, virtual terminals. you can return with ctrl-alt-7
[15:21] <BSG75> pajamian: great idea .. I didn't even think of that
[15:21] <LeGreffi3R> white_eagle> Exteris 's right
[15:21] <white_eagle> Exteris: I ctrl-alt-f7? or ctrl-alt-7
[15:21] <rambo3> what program do i use to convert bin/cue to iso on 64 bit
[15:21] <white_eagle> because ctrl-alt-f7 didn't get me back
[15:21] <maek> BSG75, the only problem I see is that if your daughter gets adventurous and goes adding stuff to the panel
[15:22] <sipior> white_eagle: just Alt-F7
[15:22] <BSG75> do you guys know of any script/app that already exists where mommy can set the time limit and it log her off after such time?
[15:22] <white_eagle> oh thanks
[15:22] <LeGreffi3R> white_eagle> Ctrl+Alt+F7 or Alt+F7
[15:22] <LeGreffi3R> white_eagle> avoid hard reboot
[15:22] <white_eagle> ok
[15:22] <BSG75> maek: LOL now you got it my friend .. she's just like her daddy .. give her something and she'll figure out a way around it :)
[15:22] <maek> you will have to make sure that the panel is locked down BSG75
[15:22] <cwraig> white_eagle, how do you accidently press that many keys at once hahahhaha
[15:22] <white_eagle> doesn't ctrl-alt-f1 open a terminal?
[15:22] <LeGreffi3R> white_eagle> if this is hard deadlocked, try a Shift+Alt+Print+b
[15:22] <BSG75> and I am soo proud that she can do that .. also grey hairs :)
[15:23] <LeGreffi3R> white_eagle> it does
[15:23] <white_eagle> cwraig: I was trying to press ctrl-alt-f11
[15:23] <white_eagle> for an effect
[15:23] <BSG75> thanks guys .. I will see what I come up with ..
[15:23] <cwraig> lol
[15:23] <white_eagle> I mena
[15:23] <white_eagle> mean
[15:23] <white_eagle> alt-f11
[15:24] <maek> hhrrmmm thats a problem then BSG75 ... lol
[15:24] <LeGreffi3R> BSG75> get a "sleep time && logout" in her Xsession :)
[15:24] <pajamian> BSG75: I don't know, I would say you can put a line like: at now + 2 hours shutdown -h now + 5 minutes
[15:24] <maek> oh yeah LeGreffi3R you can have forced breaks
[15:24] <pajamian> heh, oh well
[15:25] <[chr0n0s]> hi, i used mkfs on my home partition by mistake, is there any way to recover the data/
[15:25] <LeGreffi3R> pajamian> this will ask for sudo...
[15:25] <pajamian> LeGreffi3R: I was goinng to suggest he put it in his rc.local
[15:25] <sipior> [chr0n0s]: unfortunately, no
[15:26] <sipior> not reliably, at any rate
[15:26] <DragonLotus> hey all, I'm trying to install the debian menu in gutsy.  I used Synaptic to get menu and menu-xdg.  I used dpkg-reconfigure on both.  I restarted my x-server... still not listed in applications.  Any ideas?
[15:26] <LeGreffi3R> pajamian> i think he just want this on a session, not for the whole computer.
[15:27] <sipior> DragonLotus: have you tried looking via the menu-editor? you may have to enable its display there.
[15:27] <christoz> every time i'm downloading packages from the repositories,after fetching the package,and before installing it i have this error message twice...why is that>
[15:27] <christoz>  Failed to open device
 X Err
[15:27] <christoz> oops sorry
[15:27] <LeGreffi3R> [chr0n0s]> did you write there since?
[15:27] <DragonLotus> sipior: that's where I am right now, but I don't even know what I'm looking for using the menu-editor
[15:28] <Bonez> Hi, can someone pls help me with my apt-get problem - details here http://pastebin.com/m18243a86 - thank you
[15:28] <sipior> DragonLotus: there should be a debian entry somewhere, which you can then enable
[15:28] <LeGreffi3R> DragonLotus> if you want a debian menu, why don't you use a debian?
[15:28] <pajamian> LeGreffi3R: well then it should be possible to put it in a shell script and he can run it manually, he could give it special sudo privs for that script so it doesn't require a password if he wants, but it's a mute point because he's gone now anyways.
[15:28] <sipior> LeGreffi3R: courtesy, sir
[15:28] <Exteris> Bonez, apt-get -f install first ?
[15:29] <DOOM_NX> is OSS worse than ALSA? and why?
[15:29] <LeGreffi3R> sipior> have I been gross?
[15:29] <LeGreffi3R> didn't mean it :/
[15:29] <bazhang> wow this the second such error in two days
[15:29] <Bonez> Exteris: it does nothing... gives same error
[15:29] <tortus> I just got from work an turned my pc on and my mouse stopped working. The Mouse is fine, works on other computers. Other mice on this computer dont work either
[15:29] <tortus> dmesg shows no interesting output
[15:29] <Exteris> tortus, perhaps the port is fried
[15:29] <LeGreffi3R> pajamian> :)
[15:29] <pajamian> tortus: mouse port gone bad?  try a USB mouse.
[15:29] <christoz> every time i'm downloading packages from the repositories,after fetching the package,and before installing it i have this error message twice...http://www.pastebin.ca/976906 why is that
[15:30] <tortus> Its an USB Mouse
[15:30] <DragonLotus> sipior: xfce-menueditor open and nothing showing debian menus or any odd entries anywhere
[15:30] <tortus> Wait a sec, ill try ps2
[15:30] <PookAir> `
[15:30] <pajamian> tortus: try booting to the live CD and see if it works in that.
[15:31] <bazhang> Bonez: did you run a script to install drivers/codecs recently
[15:31] <[chr0n0s]> LeGreffi3R, nope no disk activity
[15:32] <tortus> ps2 wont work, ill go for the livecd-idea
[15:32] <pajamian> tortus: also when plugging/ unplugging a ps2 mouse make sure the computer is turned off (not needed with USB) or you might just fry the port.
[15:32] <sipior> [chr0n0s]: well, outside of writing the filesystem... ;-)
[15:32] <LeGreffi3R> [chr0n0s]> then there is still hope... I don't know how to do this though...
[15:33] <nagyv> could someone help me with a weird python problem? I described it here: http://rafb.net/p/FUgMYu34.html
[15:33] <khaled10> hello to all
[15:33] <timo> hi...................
[15:33] <Tex-Twil> Do you know why a "sftp://" trasnfer via Konquror or Krusader is MUCH slower (300 KB/s) than a command line "scp" trasnfer (5MB/s) ?
[15:34] <khaled10> what are the bisic configration for the network for all linux dis
[15:34] <LeGreffi3R> [chr0n0s]> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=418899
[15:35] <DragonLotus> sipior: thanks for the attemp, though.
[15:36] <sipior> DragonLotus: yep, hope you get it sorted out
[15:36] <bazhang> khaled10: that is a somewhat open-ended question; do you have a ubuntu support question or just curious about networking
[15:36] <Tv> anyone else have firefox-3 trouble in hardy?
[15:36] <PookAir> Hi, I wanted to know how can i see ntfs files on my ubuntu, I have one partion ext3 anf the other one ntfs.... thanks alot
[15:36] <bazhang> Tv: best ask in the hardy channel
[15:36] <timo> TV: nothing here, every thing works
[15:36] <pajamian> !ntfs | PookAir
[15:36] <ubotu> PookAir: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[15:36] <spasticteapot> Does anyone know how to check which version of Java I have installed?
[15:37] <timo> tv: oops in using feisty!
[15:37] <Tv> bazhang: hardy channel? is that #ubuntu-hardy
[15:37] <MrBumblebee> go to java.com and do the java check, it'll tell you
[15:37] <bazhang> Tv: #ubuntu+1
[15:37] <spasticteapot> I need JRE5 for BlueJ, and I don't know if it's installed or not.
[15:37] <pajamian> Tv: #ubuntu+1
[15:37] <Tv> bazhang: thanks
[15:37] <bazhang> np ;]
[15:37] <spasticteapot> MrBumblebee: I need the Java 5 compiler.
[15:37] <PookAir> ubotu, last time i installed ubuntu i didn't have to do anything
[15:38] <timo> pookair, have you mount it /
[15:38] <bazhang> PookAir: you want to read and write as well? ntfs-3g will do that
[15:38] <spasticteapot> I have a file called jdk-1_5_0_15-nb-6_0_1-linux-ml.sh
[15:38] <pajamian> spasticteapot: java -version
[15:38] <spasticteapot> How do I install it?
[15:38] <spasticteapot> pajamian: Thanks.
[15:39] <Smegzor> I want to change my gnome wallpaper from command line.  What do I type or what command do I need?
[15:39] <spasticteapot> pajamian: That just tells me my runtime environment.
[15:39] <timo> $ ./ jdk**
[15:39] <pajamian> spasticteapot: hrmmmmm, probably jdk -version, then
[15:40] <pajamian> ...or something like that
[15:40] <spasticteapot> pajamian: Command not found.
[15:40] <spasticteapot> How do I install a .sh file?
[15:40] <timo> like this ./
[15:40] <pajamian> spasticteapot: usually you run it
[15:40] <sipior> spasticteapot: java -version doesn't return a string like "java version 1.5.0_13"?
[15:40] <pajamian> spasticteapot: but you'll be better off installign it from a package
[15:41] <spasticteapot> sipior: It gives me the Java SE runtime environment.
[15:41] <pajamian> spasticteapot: I recommend: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk
[15:41] <timo> spatic try this ./ jdk-1_5_0_15-nb-6_0_1-linux-ml.sh
[15:41] <spasticteapot> Ah...it's chmod 777
[15:42] <vinconzo> hi
[15:42] <timo> hi
[15:42] <sipior> spasticteapot: simpler just to install the jdk through the package manager. especially when it comes time to upgrade...
[15:42] <pajamian> spasticteapot: it's nearly always better to install an ubuntu package than to download from a website and install yourself
[15:42] <spasticteapot> sipior: Huh.
[15:42] <spasticteapot> That...makes quite good sense, actually.
[15:43] <pajamian> spasticteapot: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk
[15:43] <fresh_dumbledore> hey yo hey yo!
[15:43] <spasticteapot> I must have been searching wrong.
[15:43] <pajamian> spasticteapot: there's also a package for java6 if you'd prefer.
[15:43] <chenzhentuo> ʔ
[15:43] <spasticteapot> pajamian: No good. It won't work with my assignments.
[15:43] <spasticteapot> (Goodness knows why.)
[15:43] <pajamian> spasticteapot: ok, then there is java5, which is what I just told you.
[15:44] <spasticteapot> fresh_dumbledore: Watched that "Harry Potter in the Hood" video a few times too many?
[15:44] <pajamian> spasticteapot: make sure you have multiverse enabled.
[15:44] <rjm> hi - how do i get color highlighintg in vim?  i tried creating a .vimrc with 'syntax=on'
[15:44] <spasticteapot> pajamian: I have it installing.
[15:44] <spasticteapot> Thanks.
[15:44] <rjm> but didn't work
[15:44] <pajamian> spasticteapot: ok, cool
[15:45] <sipior> rjm: just "syntax on"
[15:45] <bazhang> who will support the new wubi?
[15:45] <rjm> yeh i tried syntax on too
[15:45] <KeithWeisshar> http://71.250.189.227:3680/
[15:45] <bazhang> KeithWeisshar: what is that?
[15:45] <sipior> rjm: and if you try ":set syntax on" in vim, does it give an error?
[15:45] <genii> bazhang: Apparently all of us
[15:45] <evand> bazhang: Ubuntu will, much in the same way it supports other installation methods.
[15:45] <fresh_dumbledore> spasticteapot: not really
[15:46] <bazhang> evand thanks--will try it later today
[15:46] <bazhang> genii: most of us ;]
[15:46] <KeithWeisshar> it's getright pro web access
[15:46] <Exteris> rjm set syntax on ?
[15:46] <LeGreffi3R> rjm> the default vim on ubuntu is a light version
[15:46] <evand> bazhang: best of luck.  If you run into any trouble please either file a bug (preferrable) or start a thread on the wubi forum on ubuntuforums so we can track the issue.
[15:46] <Creationist> Okay, this is really starting to infuritate me.  For that past couple of months, Firefox just plain stops working at random times.  It no longer loads pages (just sits on "Loading..." indefinitely).  Sometimes after an hour of browsing, others just after visiting certain intense sites.  Restarting Firefox will temporarily solve the issue, but it just keeps repeating.  How can I track down the cause of this?
[15:46] <evand> bazhang: http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug for the former
[15:46] <rjm> how do i upgrade to the full version?
[15:47] <LeGreffi3R> rjm> install vim-full
[15:47] <rjm> cool thanks
[15:47] <LeGreffi3R> (logical) :D
[15:47] <bazhang> evand: I think there is a problem with the !wubi factoid; the wubi.org seems to lead to someone's blog
[15:47] <pajamian> Creationist: how much RAM do you have?
[15:47] <AngryBacon> I can,t get my 8800gt to work  w/nvidia drivers, everything i try results in signal loss and the error (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[15:47] <Creationist> pajamian: 1gb
[15:47] <bazhang> thanks evand will bookmark
[15:47]  * rjm awaits vim
[15:48] <pajamian> Creationist: tht's plenty, but the symptoms you describe sound like what happens when FF runs out of RAM.
[15:48] <AngryBacon> !wubi
[15:48] <ubotu> wubi advice here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234  and  http://wubi.org  [file wubi bugs here:  https://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug ] (it will be included in hardy 8.04 currently in beta)
[15:48] <evand> looks ok to me
[15:48] <pajamian> Creationist: you may want to try the FF3 beta, it might work better for you.
[15:48] <erUSUL> AngryBacon: what drivers are you using??
[15:48] <marx2k> Any suggestions for a Linux compatible MP3 player that comes in 80+ gigs that is NOT an iPod?
[15:48] <Creationist> pajamian: I figured that, but that's not the cause.  ANd FF3 is terrible for my system... way too buggy (and none of my necessary extentions work for it yet)
 hard to understand how they do to put a complete Ooo, and an uncomplete vim</troll>
[15:49] <AngryBacon> erUSUL, i've tried 169.12 & 171.06
[15:49] <sipior> LeGreffi3R: agreed!
[15:49] <bazhang> evand: which one? the wubi looks like it is in Chinese; not clear where users should go on that page
[15:49] <pajamian> Creationist: ok, I understand, well, I would say you might possibly have a RAM problem, did you try running memtest for a couple passes?
[15:49] <LeGreffi3R> marx2k> nearly all (no-sony, no-creative) player will work as a hard drive
[15:49] <Creationist> marx2k: You won't find a single MP3 player out there that claims itself to be "Linux compatible," but you can install Rockbox on nearly any player (including iPod) which supports Linux fantastically.
[15:49] <LeGreffi3R> marx2k> i'd say any :)
[15:50] <evand> !wubi is wubi advice here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234  and  http://wubi.org  [file wubi bugs here:  https://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug ] (it will be included in hardy 8.04 currently in beta)
[15:50] <marx2k> Hmmmm
[15:50] <evand> whoops
[15:50] <Creationist> pajamian: Haven't yet... but I guess that would explain why my entire system seems to grind to a halt at times, huh? ;)
[15:50] <LeGreffi3R> Rockbox is juste awesome :)
[15:50] <Creationist> pajamian: Although, that only happens in LInux, not Windows... so it shouldn't be a RAM issue.
[15:50] <pajamian> Creationist: it could, bad RAM can do all sorts of weird things.
[15:50] <evand> !wubi is wubi advice here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234  and  http://wubi.org  [file wubi bugs here:  https://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug ] (it will be included in hardy 8.04 beta CD and will be in the final release)
[15:50] <evand> argh
[15:50] <evand> !wubi is wubi advice here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234  and  http://wubi.org  [file wubi bugs here:  https://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug ] (it is included in hardy 8.04 beta CD and will be in the final release)
[15:51] <LjL> evand, use PM please
[15:51] <LjL> !pmthebot > evand    (evand, see the private message from Ubotu)
[15:51] <pajamian> Creationist: Linux is more sensitive to RAM problems than windows.  That's because it makes much better usage of all your available RAM.
[15:51] <AngryBacon> rockbox lacks video support tho
[15:51] <Creationist> marx2k: As far as the 80gb goes, I think only Apple caters to the "compensatory" crowd ;)
[15:51] <evand> LjL: indeed, sorry about that
[15:51] <marx2k> Creationist: excellent terming :D
[15:51] <Creationist> AngryBacon: It lacks FULL video support :)
[15:52] <marx2k> I care not for video on an mp3 player
[15:52] <AngryBacon> Creationist, lol, 18fps
[15:52] <Creationist> marx2k: Then why do you need 80gb?
[15:52] <bazhang> the wubi org link leads to micah sittig's blog--none of the links have to do with wubi ubuntu installer
[15:52] <Creationist> marx2k: Those are some really friggin long trips you're taking.
[15:52] <marx2k> Creationist: hahaha Im just thinking long term here
[15:52] <fresh_dumbledore> is it possible to upgrade ubuntu 7.10 from 32bit to 64bit without losing data?
[15:52] <Creationist> AngryBacon: It's a 2-inch screen... you need a better framerate? lol
[15:52] <evand> bazhang: which link?  The ubuntuforums link goes to the wubi forum and the launchpad link goes to the file a bug page
[15:52] <marx2k> So the Zune works fine with Linux??
[15:53] <rjm> i installed vim-full but when i do :syntax=on - still no syntax highlighintg
[15:53] <pajamian> Creationist: the other thing is, check your RAM and CPU usage for FF when it starts freezing up, open up a terminal and run the "top" command, it will sort by the program with the highest CPU usage at the top.  You can then press M and it will change the sort to have the highest memory usage at the top.
[15:53] <bazhang> http://wubi.org/ this one evand
[15:53] <sipior> rjm: :set syntax on
[15:53] <rjm> and syntax on in my .vimrc still doesn't work
[15:53] <pajamian> Creationist: it will also report total RAM and CPU usage.
[15:53] <Creationist> marx2k: It does for now... but as it's a Microsoft product, don't expect newer versions to work for long.
[15:53] <AngryBacon> Creationist, I fail to see the correlation between the screensize & frame rate
[15:53] <rjm> :set syntax on gives - unknown option on
[15:54] <Creationist> pajamian: But firefox never freezes, just can't load any pages... like my connection drops.
[15:54] <bazhang> fresh_dumbledore: sadly no
[15:54] <sipior> rjm: i think you are still using the vim-tiny version
[15:54] <pajamian> Creationist: check your connection, then, try pinging websites.
[15:54] <AngryBacon> Creationist, also, my 6th gen ipod isn't sopported
[15:54] <Creationist> AngryBacon: My point is that on such a small screen, only 18fps won't be discernable from 30fps.
[15:54] <fresh_dumbledore> will it be possible in 8.04?
[15:54] <rjm> ah  is there something like aliases i need to edit to point to the new vim
[15:54] <pajamian> Creationist: rule out everything but FF, and then go to #firefox (I'm guessing) for support.
[15:54] <AngryBacon> Creationist, who,s your isp?
[15:54] <Creationist> AngryBacon: Yeah, Apple destroyed linux support... Microsoft will soon too.  Of course, the Apple "blocking" was cracked within hours :)
[15:54] <sipior> rjm: apologies, try just :set syntax
[15:55] <marx2k> Im glad to know many players are supported.  Im still trying to get past my MiniDisc player
[15:55] <Creationist> AngryBacon: Until later this afternoon I'm with Comcast.
[15:55] <evand> bazhang: we don't own wubi.org.  There's wubi-installer.org, but it's also included on the beta CD.  Just burn the beta, and pop it in your computer when in Windows.  Autorun should do the rest.
[15:55] <pajamian> oh shoot
[15:55] <pajamian> Creationist: you're with Comcast
[15:55] <bazhang> AngryBacon: you need the latest libgpod deb for ubuntu or wait 16 days for the next release
[15:55] <rjm> :set syntax gives no errors, but also no color?
[15:55] <rjm> i'm editing a .pl file btw
[15:55] <sipior> rjm: and :syntax enable?
[15:55] <Creationist> pajamian: Well, I'm getting AT&T connected today.
[15:55] <PookAir> I had ntfs 3g installed already and i still cant see my ntfs partition
[15:56] <bazhang> evand: okay so the factoid needs to be changed to wubi-installer.org then thanks
[15:56] <pajamian> Creationist: one sec, I'm looking up an article for you...
[15:56] <AngryBacon> Creationist, yeah' comcast sucks, but i can,t find any dsl with decent speed arund here
[15:56] <rjm> aha!
[15:56] <rjm> syntax enable works
[15:56] <sipior> rjm: now that i actually have the manual open... :syntax on should work fine. if it doesn't, ensure that you are running the full version of vim
[15:56] <rjm> thanks much:)
[15:56] <pajamian> Creationist: http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/265722093/article.pl
[15:56] <Creationist> AngryBacon: Well, I'm huge for speed... the highest AT&T offers is "up to" 6mbps.
[15:56] <marx2k> ugh I wish I could just stick a front-end on my Lacie external 2.5" USB drive :(
[15:57] <PookAir> Can any1 help me to see ntfs partion
[15:57] <AngryBacon> Creationist, the best i can get on DSL is 1.5
[15:57] <Odd-rationale> !ntfs | PookAir
[15:57] <ubotu> PookAir: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[15:57] <dtolj> PookAir: whats the problem?
[15:57] <Creationist> AngryBacon: Is that the highest service they offer?  Or just your top speed?
[15:57] <rjm> if i have syntax enable in my .vimrc won't that automatically turn it on for any thing i edit?
[15:57] <bazhang> http://wubi-installer.org/ not this http://wubi.org/ in the factoid
[15:57] <PookAir> I just cant find or see my ntfs partion
[15:57] <AngryBacon> Creationist, top avail in my area
[15:58] <Creationist> AngryBacon: With Comcast, I was paying $55/month for 3mbps.  The AT&T service I'm getting is $35 for 6mbps :)
[15:58] <tortus> allright, i just tried the live-cd. There my mice work, in the my ordinary system there still nothing
[15:58] <AngryBacon> Creationist, i get 10mbps w/comcast when it works
[15:58] <bazhang> PookAir: did you mount it?
[15:58] <tortus> my usb-keyboard works by the way, its just usb-mice that dont work
[15:59] <pajamian> they're unbundling the local loops here, and my ISP got in on it for the first exchange.  They say that with thier own equipment in the exchange they can get up to 15mbps or better.
[15:59] <charIie> Does anyone know a good stock ticker program for Ubuntu?
[15:59] <evand> bazhang: fixed thanks to the folks in ubuntu-ops.
[15:59] <Creationist> AngryBacon: Heh... never gotten that before. I've gotten up to 3.5 down I think.
[15:59] <PookAir> bazhang, I dont know im new to ubuntu but i know that last time i had an icon called data that had all my ntfs partion in it and now i installed ubuntu again and i cant find it
[15:59] <donfede> any idea what's up with packages.ubuntu.com?
[15:59] <bazhang> evand thanks for the info about installing; excited to try it ;]
[16:00] <AngryBacon> Creationist, _when it works_
[16:00] <SliMM> what other terminal special characters are there besides ^z and ^c?
[16:00] <genii> !smtm | charlie
[16:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smtm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:00] <genii> Hmm
[16:00] <dtolj> PookAir: try gnome-volume-properties and enable it
[16:00] <bazhang> PookAir: this is a dual boot?
[16:01] <sipior> SliMM: ctrl-\, ctrl-q, ctrl-s
[16:01] <SliMM> sipior: and what do they do?
[16:01] <PookAir> bazhang, I dont think so i mean i think (hope ) that the ntfs partion is without windows
[16:01] <pajamian> Creationist: nm that article I posted to you, I just checked the original article again and they've put up a post sayign it is in error.
[16:01] <sipior> SliMM: flow control, job-killing
[16:02] <genii> charIie: from apt-cache search: smtm - Show Me The Money is a configurable Perl/Tk stock ticker program
[16:02] <charIie> thanks
[16:02] <Creationist> pajamian: Yeah... didn't sound too likely.
[16:02] <charIie> ill check it out
[16:02] <SliMM> sipior: any list of such commands described somewhere?
[16:02] <Creationist> I hate America sometimes
[16:02] <vinconzo> me 2
[16:02] <AngryBacon> TERRORISTS!!!!
[16:02] <vinconzo> but it might change if obama wins
[16:02] <bazhang> but we love ubotu
[16:02] <sipior> Creationist: not really the place...
[16:02] <Qu_Deadmen> hum
[16:03] <erUSUL> !ot | Creationist AngryBacon
[16:03] <Qu_Deadmen> hello all
[16:03] <ubotu> Creationist AngryBacon: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[16:03] <Qu_Deadmen> im french
[16:03] <erUSUL> !fr | Qu_Deadmen
[16:03] <ubotu> Qu_Deadmen: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[16:03] <PookAir> bazhang,  any idea?
[16:03] <bazhang> hello Qu_Deadmen
[16:03] <Qu_Deadmen> i'm coming here for the first time
[16:03] <vinconzo> #ubuntu-fftopic isnt the place either btw
[16:03] <pajamian> Creationist: well you never know with comcast.  Unfortunately I wouldn't trust AT&T any more than them and I've heard you can't get 3rd party ISPs for DSL in the states anymore (I used to use DSL Extreme and thought they were great)
[16:03] <vinconzo> it's not meant for politics chat
[16:04] <rwycuff> anyone hear anything about windows 7 using open source and what that suppose to consist of
[16:04] <bazhang> PookAir: did you try dtolj's suggestion yet?
[16:04] <AngryBacon> pajamian, you can, but they just buy from ATT etall
[16:04] <n-iCe> hi
[16:04] <PookAir> bazhang, how do i get to gnome volume properties?
[16:04] <dtolj> rwycuff: give me a break!
[16:04] <PookAir> bazhang,  I'm new :S
[16:05] <pajamian> AngryBacon: yes, they always did, but it was still better customer service than having to get from the telco's direct.
[16:05] <sipior> SliMM: try "stty -a"
[16:05] <bazhang> PookAir: ask the man himself; I'm using kde ;]
[16:05] <pajamian> What they really need to do is unbundle the local loops
[16:05] <dtolj> PookAir: if you want to auto mount it when u start it there is a daemon running configure it from bash using gnome-volume-properties
[16:05] <sipior> SliMM: look under "cchars"
[16:05]  * AngryBacon does need to find an alternative to comcast
[16:06] <rwycuff> dtolj: im not for it just someone feeding me the info and im not for it any any way nor could i see it happening
[16:06] <PookAir> bazhang,dtolj, I don't understand a word you two are saying
[16:06] <rwycuff> dtolj:was more wondering if any one else had heard that statment any place else
[16:06] <PookAir> kde bash, gnome, :S
[16:06] <dtolj> PookAir: u using Gnome?
[16:07] <bazhang> rwycuff: aye, away from this channel--offtopic here I believe though
[16:07] <PookAir> I think so, I mean its default in ubuntu 7.1
[16:07] <pajamian> rwycuff: I haven't heard it and it's probably just the result of someone speculating.  There is no way that MS will open source Windows 7.
[16:08] <dtolj> PookAir: fire up that command in bash then to mount your ntfs partition
[16:08] <Qu_Deadmen> I'm leaving for #ubuntu-fr. May dashs of level drink thou 2 yar east
[16:08] <yoddabyte> hey what are good virtual server for ubuntu someone gave a list VMware errors out i dont feel like playing with it...trying to get live cd run inside ubuntu
[16:08] <vinconzo> pajamian, maybe the core os
[16:08] <PookAir> dtolj, now just please say it in english
[16:08] <vinconzo> like apple did with osx
[16:08] <pajamian> !virtual | yoddabyte
[16:08] <hischild> yoddabyte, virtualbox?
[16:08] <ubotu> yoddabyte: There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[16:08] <PookAir> dtolj, last time i installed ubuntu it was there and working
[16:09] <yoddabyte> cool thx guys
[16:09] <pajamian> vinconzo: I don't think so.
[16:09] <dtolj> PookAir: do you know where bash is?
[16:09] <rwycuff> pajamian:this last time ill go offf topic but im not seeing them opening windose but rather using Open Source and calling it thier own thats what they do after all
[16:09] <PookAir> dtolj, I don't know what it is
[16:09] <bazhang> !windows
[16:09] <ubotu> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[16:09] <vinconzo> pajamian, me neither, but i never expected it from apple either
[16:09] <pajamian> rwycuff: yes, they'll grab BSD code, they always have.
[16:09] <dtolj> !bash
[16:09] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[16:09] <n-iCe> how can I check my video drivers?
[16:10] <pajamian> vinconzo: the plans for windows 7 is to rent it off in pieces.  They want you to pay for every little thing you do with it.  That's the furthest thing from open source.
[16:10] <bazhang> ;[
[16:10] <dtolj> I am not looking forward to that
[16:10]  * Steven_Office is back (gone 00:00:36)
[16:10] <vinconzo> pajamian, yes... it is
[16:10]  * Steven_Office is away: off to the mayo clinic
[16:10] <vinconzo> dtolj, i am
[16:11] <vinconzo> ppl will start using more other OSes
[16:11] <vinconzo> like Ubuntu
[16:11] <pajamian> vinconzo: they already are.
[16:11] <PookAir> dtolj, i dont know were bash is
[16:12] <rwycuff> pajamian: they never grabed any bsd code for thier stuff but i could totally see it
[16:12] <pajamian> PookAir: Applications / Accessories / Terminal
[16:12] <dtolj> !bash|PookAir
[16:12] <ubotu> PookAir: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[16:12] <bazhang> PookAir: open the terminal; alt f2 terminal
[16:12] <PookAir> terminal is bash?
[16:13]  * AngryBacon must be going
[16:13] <bazhang> effectively yes
[16:13] <dtolj> PookAir: not really but you can call it like that
[16:13] <n-iCe> how can I check my video drivers?
[16:13] <pajamian> PookAir: technically no, but effectively yes.
[16:13] <PookAir> :S ok
[16:13] <rwycuff> PoolAir:Terminal can be what ever shell you set it too
[16:13] <PookAir> so now i got my bash open now what?
[16:13] <PookAir> or terminal
[16:13] <bazhang> n-iCe: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:13] <SliMM> what does ^c do?
[16:14] <ChaosTheory> Can anyone help with installing awn applets?
[16:14] <PookAir> How do i mount ntfs partion?   and what does it do?
[16:14] <pajamian> rwycuff: they've grabbed lots of BSD code, from memory I think ... thier command line FTP program, the TCP/IP stack, and I think even thier new shell is taken mostly from BSD code.
[16:14] <sipior> SliMM: sends an interrupt signal to the foreground process
[16:14] <pajamian> rwycuff: and lots more as well that I can't think of.
[16:15] <SliMM> sipior: how do i switch between processes?
[16:15] <pajamian> !ntfs | PookAir
[16:15] <ubotu> PookAir: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[16:15] <rwycuff> pajamian:atleast apple gives credit to BSD
[16:15] <sipior> SliMM: if you have multiple processes running on a terminal, try "jobs"
[16:15] <PookAir> !ntfs
[16:15] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[16:16] <pajamian> rwycuff: if you can get the source code from MS (which you can't) you'll see appropriate credit in the source files.
[16:16] <PookAir> can any one help me with my ntfs partion
[16:16] <pajamian> PookAir: go and read the link ubotu just gave you.
[16:17] <pajamian> !NTFS-3g | PookAir (...also this)
[16:17] <ubotu> PookAir (...also this): ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[16:17] <dtolj> PookAir: you dont need to edit /etc/fstab, from gnome-volume-properties check the first 3 options under removable storage.
[16:18] <PookAir> dtolj, how do i get to gnome volume properties?
[16:18] <killuats> hi all!
[16:18] <dtolj> PookAir: enter it in bash
[16:18] <dtolj> PookAir: :)
[16:18] <killuats> how do i enable php5-cgi in apache2 the ubuntu/debian way?
[16:18] <ikm> hello there,
[16:18] <PookAir> dtolj, thanks
[16:19] <ikm> can i remove initramfs errors from HDD? any soulution ?
[16:19] <pajamian> ikm: still cant' boot to the live CD?
[16:20] <Sprengelmeyer> Ive always wondered: why doesn't ubuntu (undoubtedly the most popular linux distribution) have a "colourful" console like say for example gentoo cli's.
[16:20] <tortus> Xorg.0.log tells me "Unable to grad device (Device or resource busy). Cowardly refusing to check use as keyboard." If edit xorg.conf to not use driver evdev but "mouse" it works. How can i get evdev back to work?
[16:20] <PookAir> dtolj, the top three boxes were already checked
[16:20] <Pici> Sprengelmeyer: colorful?
[16:20] <dtolj> Sprengelmeyer: you can theme it
[16:20] <Elrohir> hello
[16:20] <w0nder> hey guys, anyone know of a good all-around PHP\CSS editor (or suite) for ubuntu?  WYSIWYG preferred
[16:20] <Sprengelmeyer> dtolj, I meant by default
[16:20] <unop_> Sprengelmeyer, the gnome-terminal is colorful enough as compared to say xterm or rxvt :)
[16:20] <Exteris> w0nder, bluefish is a good code editor
[16:21] <dtolj> Sprengelmeyer: its the users choice what they want to do
[16:21] <ikm> pajamian: i can boot to live cd when i use disk no 1 but cant boot when using disk no 2 :(
[16:21] <pajamian> ikm: booting to the live CD has nothing to do with your HDD
[16:21] <dtolj> pajamian: only disk 1 is bootable usually
[16:22] <ikm> but it want to install linux in disk 2, not in disk 1
[16:22] <zubair> i just downloaded joomla for linux.how should i go about installing it.i am new to linux!
[16:22] <dtolj> ikm: so it prompts you to insert disk 2?
[16:22] <pajamian> ikm: back up a min, there is no disk 2 for the live CD, what are you talking about?
[16:22] <ikm> pajamian: when i unplug disk1 and want to install linux in disk2, still same problem, i contact to computer guy, he is a window user he also failed
[16:23] <Sprengelmeyer> Pici, by "colourful" i mean http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff300/nilsmilo/terminal.png
[16:23] <eax> Morning gentlefolks :) Can anyone tell me how to mount an external harddrive in gutsy? It's formatted in NFTS but I can't read it :(
[16:23] <dtolj> ikm: maybe there is a CRC error on it you should check all disks after burning the isos
[16:23] <ikm> disk2 means 2nd HDD :)
[16:23] <pajamian> ikm: ok, so you're saying you want to install ubuntu on your 2nd HDD, and leave windows on the first?
[16:23] <ikm> yessssss
[16:24] <Pici> Sprengelmeyer: You're free to submit a bug report (perhaps marked as wishlist) to colorize the bash defaults.   I personally use zsh with my own color scheme.
[16:24] <pajamian> ikm: you will still have to install grub onto the MBA of the 1st drive, otherwise it will only boot to windows.
[16:24] <kazol_> How do I set the system to hibernate after a specific period of time?
[16:24] <ikm> pajamian: i dont want to install anything in 1st HDD, just want to use 2nd HDD for linux. why should i install grub in 1st HDD?
[16:25] <dtolj> eax: it should pick it up automatically if you have hot-plugging enabled
[16:25] <zubair> can neone help me with the installation of joomla on linux??
[16:25] <ikm> pajamian: i dont want a duel boot
[16:25] <grr3> how do I prevent the livecd from loading x? ( I want to be in linux terminal )
[16:25] <pajamian> ikm: then what do you want to do?
[16:25] <eax> dtolj: Not sure if I have :) Just installed this day, where do I enable it?
[16:25] <Pelo> grr3, check the menu opitons at the beginning, should be in there
[16:25] <dtolj> eax: gnome-volume-properties
[16:25] <picaso> i have a problem with bonobo activation server. it hangs or something when i log out. and when i logo back in, i get lots of errors or a black screen. does anyone know what causes this? is it a bug with the bonobo activation server? because i got a tip online about killing bonobo after logout to fix the problem, and it does work. but i dont want to have to kill it each time i log out.
[16:26] <ikm> pajamian: my problem will solve when i remove the " initramfs " from my HDD
[16:26] <eax> dtolj: In terminal or synaptic?
[16:26] <dtolj> grr3: did you try linux rescue?
[16:26] <dtolj> eax: terminal
[16:26] <zubair> can neone help me with linux?
[16:26] <eax> dtolj: Thanks :) it is enabled though :S Still doesn't work :S
[16:27] <Ethan> zubair: ask, do not ask for ask :P
[16:27] <Sprengelmeyer> Pici, Oh i dont use ubuntu, i just seemed like a really easy feature to have installed by default that would make the whole user-terminal relationship seem less scary with clearly visible colour differences between say "user localhost #" and other screen output. Not to mention having important user notices printed in a clearly visible Red or Yellow to grab the users attention.
[16:27] <pajamian> ikm: ok, disconnect the 1st HDD, make sure the 2nd one is configured as "master" (either with jumper or cable position) and make sure the CMOS is set up correctly for just the one drive, then boot to the live CD and install ubuntu.  When you're doen change the configuration back.  That said, I don't see how you would want to do that because what good is it if you can't boot to it?
[16:27] <Sprengelmeyer> 'it
[16:27] <zubair> i just downloaded joomla from the net. but how should i go about installing it on my linux system?
[16:27] <ikm> pajamian: can u go through this website for a minute , http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT4017834659.html
[16:28] <dtolj> eax: is your haldaemon running?
[16:28] <ikm> pajamian: u will have an idea what i am talkig abt
[16:28] <eax> dtolj: The error message i get is: "$LogFile indicates unclean shutdown (0, 0) Failed to mount ' /dev/sdb1': Operation not supported Mount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in use."
[16:28] <DrYes> huhu... sind hier deutschsprechende anwesend ?
[16:28] <eax> Dtolj: What do you mean? And how do I check? :)
[16:28] <bazhang> !de | DrYes
[16:28] <ubotu> DrYes: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[16:28] <DrYes> thanks
[16:28] <bazhang> np ;]
[16:29] <smjones> Have any of you heard of bridging a EVDO connection to ethernet?
[16:29] <pajamian> ikm: I know what an initramfs is, I don't see why it's a problem and you probably won't be able to remove it from ubuntu without compiling your own kernel (which I'm not prepared to go into now).
[16:29] <ikm> pajamian: ok i will cheke this option tooo, and hope it will work :
[16:29] <dtolj> eax: /etc/init.d/haldaemon status
[16:29] <pajamian> ikm: what on earth do you plan to do with ubuntu if you can't boot to it?
[16:29] <eax> dtolj: In terminal?
[16:29] <ikm> pajamian: ok dear thanks alot, pray for me to install ubuntu successfully :)
[16:29] <dtolj> eax: always
[16:30] <ikm> brb.......
[16:30] <eax> dtolj: Uhm.. just the line "/etc/init.d/haldaemon status"?
[16:32] <smjones> Have any of you heard of bridging a EVDO connection to ethernet?
[16:32] <dtolj> eax: assuming that's the place where your processes are located
[16:32] <eax> dtolj: I haven't changed anything :) But shouldn't I write something like cd in front or something
[16:33] <dtolj> eax: no just run that and see let me the message
[16:33] <Kl4m> smjones: Bell Canada offers a subscription to "Wireless Internet". I think it's 3G/EVDO via a "modem" with ethernet plug
[16:33] <eax> dtolj: "No such file or directory"
[16:33] <r0drigu3z> ...
[16:34] <Kl4m> smjones: but I just saw it passing at one of their stores
[16:34] <zubair> plz. help me
[16:34] <dtolj> eax: shoot, i dont remember the location to ubuntus processes, using fedora now
[16:34] <zubair> i am stuck on it
[16:34] <smjones> I have a working EVDO, I want it to server internet to my router via my eth0 to update the machines connected to the router
[16:34] <n-iCe> how can I check if my video drivers are correct?
[16:34] <mas_> hi
[16:34] <smjones> serve, sorry
[16:35] <n-iCe> how can I check if my video drivers are correct? and how can I know my video card??
[16:35] <dtolj> n-iCe: see if they are loaded using 'lsmod'
[16:35] <mas_> ktos z polski jest?:D
[16:35] <eax> dtolj: Okay, damn :( Thanks anyway :)
[16:35] <n-iCe> dtolj,  no
[16:35] <grr3> I cannot find how to boot livecd into text mode in the boot menu. How do I do that?
[16:36] <erUSUL> grr3: you can't afaik
[16:36] <grr3> oh
[16:36] <dtolj> should there be a linux rescue option from a boot cd?
[16:36] <pajamian> grr3: use the alternate install CD.
[16:36] <r0drigu3z> mmm
[16:36] <mas_> i need gg client
[16:36] <r0drigu3z> Alguien
[16:36] <r0drigu3z> que hable
[16:36] <r0drigu3z> en español
[16:36] <grr3> pajamian
[16:36] <riotkittie> !es | r0drigu3z
[16:36] <ubotu> r0drigu3z: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:36] <turdega> dtolj, if you wanna make sure your direct open gl rendering is working thats a good sign they are in right use "glxinfo | grep direct"
[16:36] <r0drigu3z> oks
[16:37] <SliMM> sipior: so, how do i return to a job?
[16:37] <grr3> isn't that just install and not a live CD? I just want it to not startx.
[16:37] <SliMM> sipior: and how do i make a job run in background?
[16:37] <turdega> dtolj, if it says Direct Rendering: Yes you should be good to go...after that try glxgears if thats looking good you should be ready to game
[16:37] <erUSUL> grr3: dunno if «sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop» will work on livecd (after normal boot)
[16:37] <pajamian> grr3: it is a live CD without the GUI
[16:37] <n-iCe> How can I know my video card?
[16:37] <erUSUL> !alternate | grr3
[16:37] <ubotu> grr3: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[16:37] <sipior> SliMM: if you've started a task, you can background it by hitting ctrl-z, and then "bg"
[16:38] <erUSUL> n-iCe: lspci | grep -i vga
[16:38] <SliMM> sipior: ctrl+z stops the task
[16:38] <Nwallins|home> Hi, every once in a while, when I boot, I boot to (initramfs) command prompt, and I get a busybox banner at the top.  i usually just ctrl-alt-del to reboot, and ubuntu loads normally after that
[16:38] <turdega> oh i got n-iCe and dtolj  confused sorry
[16:38] <sipior> SliMM: if you want that task to run in the background to begin with, just invoke it with an ampersand at the end
[16:38] <grr3> I don't want to install, I want livecd in textmode. My laptop gets confused with the gfx.
[16:38] <n-iCe> erUSUL,  thanks, how can I know if my drivers are correct and how can I update them???
[16:39] <riotkittie> live CD in text mode == not happening
[16:39] <annonymouse> any one know how to migrate and back up evolution email to thunderbird my evolution client well buggy
[16:39] <SliMM> sipior: and if i just want to start a task, and then, after a while, leave it running and start another one, and then switch back?
[16:39] <grr3> riotkittie, I don't get it. It's just about removing startx command
[16:39] <pajamian> Nwallins|home: it happens first thing in the morning when you turn your computer on?
[16:39] <erUSUL> n-iCe: what do you mean? do you have any problem with your dislay?
[16:40] <sipior> SliMM: ctrl-z, bg, start your other task, background it the same way, then use "jobs" to go between the two
[16:40] <riotkittie> grr3: you can try it, and try stopping gdm but i'm not sure it will work
[16:40] <n-iCe> erUSUL,  yeah playing games with wine, when I try to click the play now button everything crashes, wine channel told me because a drivers problem, I want to update my drivers
[16:40] <grr3> what do I need to do to try to stop gdm?
[16:40] <erUSUL> n-iCe: which card do you have?
[16:41] <Canaveral> euh...
[16:41] <pajamian> grr3: alternate install CD, use the recovery option in the main menu, it will ask a couple questions about time zone, etc, and then dump you in a shell.
[16:41] <SliMM> sipior: ok, how do i use jobs, there is no man entry, and it just lists the jobs by default
[16:41] <uffie> hello Canaveral
[16:41] <dtolj> whats the name of that remote desktop tool that you use in ubuntu?
[16:41] <riotkittie> grr3: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[16:41] <timo> grr3: what you mean. how you done some thing to ur gdm.
[16:41] <Canaveral> it's in english here ?
[16:41] <erUSUL> SliMM: man bash
[16:41] <Nwallins|home> pajamian: no, after reboots
[16:41] <sipior> SliMM: "jobs" is part of the shell. try "man bash" for an incredible amount of detail
[16:41] <SliMM> ok
[16:41] <SliMM> thanks
[16:41] <Nwallins|home> pajamian: i am running raid-1 / mdadm
[16:41] <uffie> yep
[16:41] <pajamian> Nwallins|home: so it works first thing in the morning but not after reboots?
[16:41] <Nwallins|home> pajamian: a lot of rebooting to set up various things
[16:42] <grr3> riotkittie, where do I write "sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop" ?
[16:42] <Nwallins|home> pajamian: this machine hasn't been off in a while
[16:42] <pajamian> Nwallins|home: ok, then
[16:42] <timo> try this sudo /etc/init.d gdm stop
[16:42] <Nwallins|home> pajamian: i was actually thinking it might need a hard reset
[16:42] <turdega> anyone else having broken launchpad-integration packages with Hardy right now
[16:42] <n-iCe> erUSUL,  my video card is: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 04)
[16:42] <Nwallins|home> pajamian: i.e. power cycle
[16:42] <riotkittie> grr3:  ALT + CTRL +F1 to a TTY and do it there
[16:42] <jaffarkelshac> i need a good video editor, any suggestions
[16:42] <pajamian> Nwallins|home: I wouldn't know, I was thinking heat related problem, but if it hasn't been off in a while that's not it.
[16:43] <dtolj> jaffarkelshac: kino
[16:43] <erUSUL> n-iCe: afaik you drivers and all should be already  installed
[16:43] <Nwallins|home> pajamian: i've been booting in an out of ubuntu livecd
[16:43] <SliMM> sipior: one more thing, how do i make a job stop outputting for a while, while it runs in the background?
[16:43] <jaffarkelshac> dtolj, do you use it,
[16:43] <n-iCe> erUSUL,  there is no way to update?
[16:43] <annonymouse> does any one know how to get email form evolution into thunderbird
[16:43] <erUSUL> n-iCe: no; no an easy one
[16:43] <dtolj> jaffarkelshac: no video editing is not my thing
[16:44] <n-iCe> thanks
[16:44] <n-iCe> :<
[16:44] <sipior> SliMM: if the job is trying to write to the terminal, it will halt automatically when you background it
[16:44] <jaffarkelshac> kino is not very good
[16:44] <timo> guys pigeon being very slow then i type.  i makes it hard and not fun to chat :(
[16:44] <sipior> jaffarkelshac: welcome to the world of Linux video editing
[16:44] <jaffarkelshac> sipior, it not being good?
[16:45] <turdega> jaffarkelshac, http://cvs.cinelerra.org/ is another one
[16:45] <nottobi> hello, .. after installing windows i tried to reinstall grub, with root (hd0,1) and setup (hd0) .. worked fine. i can boot back to linux, but now my ntfs partition is broken?
[16:45] <sipior> jaffarkelshac: afraid so. at least, at the moment. i know a number of folks are working on the problem.
[16:45] <pajamian> annonymouse: I'm sure there's some sort of tool you can use to export it, but if all else fails find an IMAP server (I hear gmail has IMAP connections now) and drag your email folders into that, then you can do the opposite in TB.
[16:45] <c0ldfusion> How can I send a message to the display from the command line? I tried zenity --display :0 --warning --text "asdf" but I get cannot open display
[16:45] <annonymouse> ok pajamian i'll look into that
[16:46] <dtolj> nottobi: try editing menu.lst and chainload to windows partition
[16:46] <c0ldfusion> oh n/m; I have to run as user
[16:47] <nottobi> dtolj: yes, i adjusted my menu.lst, but i can't even mount the ntfs partition any more. it seems to be broken. was there not enough space for grub in the mbr?
[16:48] <pajamian> goodnight everyone
[16:48] <uhblivius> if I'm running XFCE and tightvncserver, can someone else get an X session with xvncviewer?
[16:48] <dtolj> nottobi: no thats not it grub should find its place in MBR, but you can boot into ntfs?
[16:49] <nottobi> dtolj: no, neither boot nor mount it: "unexpected clusters per mft record (-1), fauled to mount .. etc."
[16:50] <uhblivius> Do I have to kill X before someone else can get an X session with VNC?
[16:50] <nottobi> dtolj: i thought if installing grub wouldn't have killed the ntfs-partition i should be able to mount it?
[16:50] <Deanodriver> my wireless connection works for a couple days, but now it won't detect any access points
[16:50] <Deanodriver> it detects something in iwconfig
[16:51] <Deanodriver> although it also says "Rx invalid" stuff
[16:51] <dtolj> nottobi: I dont see how grub could have damaged it, try repairing the partition from linux then, you dont need to mount it, use fdisk /dev/(ntfs)
[16:51] <Deanodriver> although when i type in iwlist ath0 scan, it doesn't detect anything
[16:51] <juanjh> ola
[16:51] <juanjh> ola
[16:52] <Deanodriver> hi
[16:52] <juanjh> como
[16:52] <juanjh> he
[16:52] <Pici> !es | juanjh
[16:52] <ubotu> juanjh: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:52] <juanjh> de donde eres
[16:52] <nottobi> dtolj: i am just wondering how that could be possible. it's a relatively new lenovo-laptop, and i already had problems with sata, but it's running in compatibility mode now..
[16:52] <juanjh> como hijo puta
[16:53] <BadHorsie> !epiphany-webkit
[16:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about epiphany-webkit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:54] <dtolj> BadHorsie: you use it?
[16:54] <dtolj> !webkit-gtk
[16:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about webkit-gtk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:54] <Pici> !msgthebot
[16:54] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[16:54] <genii> nottobi: google is indicating the fix for this message is to run the fixboot command in the Windows Recovery Console of bootable cd
[16:54] <BadHorsie> dtolj: a friend is just having problems trying to install it, so i'm curious why isn't it in the repositories
[16:55] <genii> nottobi: This will hose Grub but you can reinstall it afterwards
[16:55] <dtolj> BadHorsie: They just announced it, I havent seen any custom builds but there is documentation how to build it yourself
[16:56] <BadHorsie> dtolj: alright, i saw a couple of howtos but just wanted to know what was going on
[16:56] <nottobi> genii: ok thanks. but is there besides hardware-problems another possibility that installing grub kann destroy partitions?
[16:56] <dtolj> BadHorsie: http://live.gnome.org/Epiphany/WebKit
[16:57] <nottobi> genii: just to know for the next try, if i should move the partitions.
[16:57] <BadHorsie> thanks a lot dtolj
[16:57] <BadHorsie> dtolj: isnt' this simpler: http://phorolinux.com/how-to-install-epiphany-with-the-webkit-backend-on-ubuntu-710.html ?
[16:57] <dtolj> nottobi: how does fdisk read that ntfs partition?
[16:58] <genii> nottobi: If you try to install grub on a sub-partition it will mess up the partiton information as to what partition type it is, etc. But if to MBR it's fine.
[16:58] <dtolj> BadHorsie: this targets ubuntu specific distro, good for ubuntu users
[16:58] <nottobi> dtolj: it says System unknown, and for all partitions it says Partition X does not end on cylinder boundaries.
[16:59] <mizan> Hi!
[16:59] <BadHorsie> dtolj: i fail to understand whether that is good or not lol
[16:59] <mizan> Hi!
[16:59] <c0ldfusion> hi
[16:59] <yahuuu> hi again
[17:00] <mizan> how r u?
[17:00]  * yahuuu is Ikm
[17:00] <dtolj> nottobi: do you not get a message saying press w to correct partition table or similar
[17:00] <erUSUL> !hi | mizan
[17:00] <ubotu> mizan: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[17:00] <B-rabbit> is there a way to convert .flv to .3gp format??
[17:00] <erUSUL> B-rabbit: ffmpeg ??
[17:00] <B-rabbit> erUSUL, thnx
[17:00] <yahuuu> seen Pajaimin?
[17:00] <grr3> how do I find a hd that has no valid partitions to automount?
[17:01] <dtolj> nottobi: I would recommend downloading http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ to fix grub/hard disk related issues
[17:01] <nottobi> dtolj: no, it even says THis doesn't look like a partition table, probably you selected the wrong device
[17:01] <erUSUL> grr3: usb?
[17:01] <nottobi> so i am hesitating to write something back to the mbr
[17:02] <dtolj> nottobi: what does it say in cat /etc/mtab
[17:02] <_Tux__> what is the best IM ??? (a one that supports a wide broad of clients)
[17:02] <geronimaldo> has anyone here run excel / vba macros on linux
[17:02] <grr3> erUSUL, nope, normal HD that has no partitions with valid filesystems on it.
[17:02] <dtolj> _Tux__: using Pidgin now it rox
[17:02] <nottobi> genii: i hope it's what i did with root(hd0,1) and setup (hd0)
[17:03] <dtolj> nottobi: that command should have installed grub in the MBR
[17:03] <erUSUL> grr3: ls -al /dev/disk/by-id/* should list all your disk with a fairly descriptive name
[17:03] <grr3> thanks
[17:04] <nottobi> dtolj: ok thats the /etc/mtab from the xubuntu cd, there is /dev/sda2 listed as ext3
[17:04] <chero> hello good morning
[17:04] <chero> i have a problem  with aptoncd
[17:04] <nottobi> dtolj: no ntfs, gparted is also not able to mount it
[17:04] <dtolj> nottobi: just that?
[17:04] <genii> nottobi: That command should be fine. It's when you do something like put setup to a subpartition that causes a lot of grief
[17:04] <chero> i can t put in the iso my old programs
[17:05] <chero> the program only puts the new software
[17:05] <chero> anybody can helpme plese?
[17:05] <nottobi> dtolj: no, 10other lines - but nothing else of sda. what do you want to know?
[17:05] <darko> hey, i changed the aMSN language to some weird shit by mistake how can i undo the change
[17:05] <Jellorian> I'm having issues getting post-commit hooks to work using the packages for Trac and SVN with Ubuntu 7.10.
[17:05] <Jellorian> They fail, regardless of the content of the post-commit script.
[17:06] <Jellorian> There is a clearsilver version mis-match error.
[17:06] <Jellorian> But it is only a warning, and I've seen it in Trac before and it is non-fatal.
[17:06] <dtolj> genii: not really I have it like that across different distros which gives me the advantage of chainloading them together
[17:06] <Jellorian> Warning: 'post-commit' hook failed with error output: /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/trac/web/clearsilver.py:128: RuntimeWarning: Python C API version mismatch for module neo_util: This Python has API version 1013, module neo_util has version 1012.
[17:07] <darko> hey, i changed the aMSN language to some weird shit by mistake how can i undo the change
[17:07] <MauL^> what can I use in Linux instead of Biztalk
[17:07] <Pici> !language | darko
[17:07] <ubotu> darko: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[17:07] <dtolj> nottobi: well if its corrupt somehow, you have to use special tools to fix it, what message do you get when you try to mount /dev/sda1
[17:07] <genii> dtolj: If you install grub to something like sda2 instead of mbr the partition type will change to something like Acorn Partition Type and the system refuses to auto mount
[17:08] <Jellorian> I found reference to this bug here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/clearsilver/+bug/114930
[17:08] <genii> I've seen it a lot
[17:08] <Jellorian> However, there is no solution listed.
[17:08] <darko> sorry, i changed the aMSN language to some weird "symbols" by mistake how can i undo the change
[17:08] <genii> dtolj: If you install to the mbr of each drive there is no issue with chainloading or so on
[17:09] <elbe39> hello
[17:09] <dtolj> genii: right , however fedora gives you the option of installing the bootloader into subpartition
[17:09] <Jellorian> Has anyone gotten svn post-commit hooks to work on Ubuntu 7.10?
[17:10] <nottobi> dtolj: "unexpected clusters per mft record (-1), fauled to mount .." genii answered on that message that google finds windows recovery and fixmbr as answer
[17:10] <nottobi> dtolj: i am wondering what i should change if i can fix it, by fixmbr or reinstall, what will happen the next time i install grub
[17:11] <dtolj> genii: I find it easier to configure the main bootloader inside the MRB to chainload to other partitions bootloader instead of overwriting each time
[17:13] <chero> anubaody know if i can rstore my /var/cache/apt/archives
[17:13] <chero> ?
[17:13] <_Tux__> you deleted it?
[17:14] <genii> chero: If you've emptied it out, it will repopulate with deb files as you install them.
[17:14] <_Tux__> chero: if you deleted it, maybe it is still in the recycle bin?
[17:14] <dtolj> nottobi: try fixmbr if that dosnt work its safe to reinstall grub
[17:15] <chero> mmm maybe
[17:15] <nottobi> dtolj: ok, i will try. i have to leave the irc. thanks a lot and cu
[17:15] <chero> well isnt clean}
[17:15] <benanz1> Can I encrypt a file with GnuPG but not require a key to decrypt it, just a password?
[17:15] <anteaya> on ubuntu, what is the best app to play mp4's?
[17:15] <chero> but only have the news packages the olds are clean
[17:15] <esox> Hi, I have corruption around the mouse pointer, ati radeon X 700 mobility
[17:15] <nottobi> genii: thank you as well, i try to fix it, and i come back :-) bye
[17:15] <arvind_khadri> abid, happy to hear it worked :)
[17:16] <legend2440> darko: read number 24 under Troubleshooting http://amsn.sourceforge.net/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=Frequently+Asked+Questions
[17:16] <arvind_khadri> anteya totem movie / rythmbox
[17:16] <flea> how can i specify at kernel command, a module to .not. load?
[17:16] <anteaya> arvind_khadri, : thank you
[17:17] <benanz1> flea: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[17:17] <benanz1> put "blacklist module_name" on a line of it's own
[17:17] <flea> benanz1: on an uninstalled system i need to .not. load a module at kernel command
[17:17] <darko> i downloaded lots of programs and all the update on ubuntu gutsy, is there anyway for me to compile the current version for later installations
[17:17] <andrea__> hi I can't see NFS shared folders in my ubuntu
[17:17] <benanz1> at boot time?
[17:17] <andrea__> folders are in a kubuntu machine
[17:17] <flea> benanz1: yes
[17:18] <andrea__> please help
[17:18] <sipior> darko: yes, dpkg --get-selections
[17:18] <andrea__> need help please
[17:19] <darko> sipior: i run that in the terminal??
[17:19] <sipior> darko: read in later with "dpkg --set-selections" and then "apt-get dselect-upgrade"
[17:19] <p> ubuntu deutsch
[17:19] <Pici> !de | p
[17:19] <ubotu> p: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[17:19] <p> thanks^^
 hi I can't see NFS shared folders in my ubuntu
[17:20] <andrea__> please help
[17:20] <ikonia> andrea__: we saw you the first second and third time
[17:20] <B-rabbit> erUSUL, i got ffmpeg but how do i convert flv to 3gp, do u know the command?
[17:20] <ikonia> !patience > andrea__
[17:20] <andrea__> ok sorry
[17:20] <gatestone> darko I suspect there might be a long discussion about all that is possible, but you can just boot from a CD and use dd /dev/hda... etc to copy the whole disk image, or you can use cp -r / ... to copy all the files to a safe place...a Linux installation is no more than "all the files".
[17:21] <erUSUL> B-rabbit: ffmpeg -i file-flv file.3gp ?
[17:21] <darko> ok 10x
[17:22] <koro> hi
[17:22] <gatestone> Hmmm..some things like /etc/fstab might not be usable in a new machine, though. And some confguratons would need to be tinkered with, if like the video driver is different ina new machine...
[17:22] <ikonia> gatestone: the uuid's would change
[17:22] <koro> What's a good way to minimize thunderbird to the system tray (like the minimzetotray addon in windows)?
[17:22] <flea> can someone advise how to force a module to .not. load at boot time (kernel command)
[17:22] <ikonia> gatestone: the boot loader would also need re-installing
[17:22] <ikonia> flea: blacklist it ?
[17:23] <flea> ikonia: its not installed system, i need kernel command
[17:23] <tawt> ok, so i really like the slow smooth fade out that happens when you go to system -> quit.  but when you press cancel, it quickly brings the colors back.  is there anyone here that works on the main ubuntu projects that can change it so that it fades back the desktop colors?
[17:23] <erUSUL> B-rabbit: ffmpeg -i file.flv file.3gp ? sorry
[17:23] <gatestone> ikonia, you are right, cp -r / ... is probably not so good idea.
[17:23] <ikonia> flea: there you want to pass ignore arguments to the boot line
[17:23] <ikonia> gatestone: cp -rXp is the only way that would potentially work and it wold still need changes
[17:23] <flea> ikonia: i dont even have a partition yet
[17:24] <gatestone> ikonia, you are right, cp -r / ... is probably not so good idea (hear me darko)
[17:24] <Andril> hello all
[17:24] <ikonia> flea so you want to pass it as a boot argument
[17:24] <flea> ikonia: yes
[17:24] <flea> ikonia: from a livecd
[17:24] <ikonia> flea: you can access the boot lines with F6 at boot time
[17:24] <flea> its withholding me from using my raid controller = no hard drives
[17:25] <flea> ikonia: i know, but whats the command to not load a module
[17:25] <eax> Morning gents :) Today I installed Ubuntu 7,10 (Gutsy) on my girlfriends laptop, she wanted me to make it so she has a primary drive and a drive where she can store her files, I did so but now she can't write to the extra drive. Any ideas on what I can do?
[17:25] <ikonia> flea: just checking, I think it's ignore
[17:25] <Andril> does anyone have a recommendation on a low end AGP video card for Ubuntu - I have teh Geforce 5200 256 and its crap
[17:25] <ikonia> eax: permissions on the second drive ? wrong file system ?
[17:25] <flea> ikonia: this is the commonly known DL360 (cpqarray : sym53c8xx) issue
[17:25] <eax> ikonia: Yeah :) it's EXT3?
[17:25] <mw-home> is it possible to install firefox beta 3 side-by-side with firefox 2?
[17:25] <B-rabbit> erUSUL, nope
[17:25] <ikonia> flea I know it well
[17:26] <budluva> hi can someone help me out here, im trying to change a byte in a video clip in hexedit, but have no clue how do find this byte im supposed to change
[17:26] <erUSUL> B-rabbit: :|
[17:26] <ricanelite> how come does Miro closes on me out of no where
[17:26] <ikonia> eax change the permissiosns then ?
[17:26] <eax> ikonia: How? :)
[17:26] <ikonia> eax: chmod, chown, nautalus launched with a root shell ?
[17:26] <flea> ikonia: <module>.blacklist=true only results in syntax error
[17:27] <eTiger13> how can i tell if a cron job failed?
[17:27] <eax> ikonia: Haven't tried any of that before :/ What do I write in the terminal?
[17:27] <ikonia> eax: setup logging on it, or look in the cron log
[17:27] <ikonia> eax: man chmod and man chown,
[17:27] <eax> ikonia: Thanks :)
[17:27] <TheBills> hi
[17:27] <ikonia> eTiger13 look in the cron log
[17:27] <eTiger13> ikonia, where is that?
[17:28] <ikonia> eTiger13: /var/log
[17:28] <TheBills> does anyone have a problem with a weak signal when steaking internet from the neighbors?
[17:28] <TheBills> is there and antenna?
[17:28] <ikonia> TheBills please don't be pathetic and discuss things like that in here
[17:28] <TheBills> ok
[17:28] <TheBills> but its a reality
[17:28] <TheBills> open networks are public
[17:28] <ikonia> TheBills: I don't care, it's not for this channel
[17:29] <eTiger13> the_giver, ok but its also illegal
[17:29] <TheBills> ok ill stop
[17:29] <erUSUL> B-rabbit: it seems that  to convert to 3gp the thing is quite complex → ffmpeg -i video.avi-s qcif -vcodec h263 -acodec mp3 -ac 1 -ar 8000 -r 25 -ab 32 -y video.3gp
[17:29] <tortus> I still cant get evdev working. It worked all the time, then i booted up my pc today and my mouse wont move. X starts and if i cat /dev/input/eventX i see output, so evdev recognizes my devices, its just X wont deal with them
[17:29] <TheBills> which network cards work right out of the box on 7.10?
[17:30] <ikonia> !hcl > TheBills
[17:30] <erUSUL> B-rabbit: it seems that  to convert to 3gp the thing is quite complex → ffmpeg -i video.flv -s qcif -vcodec h263 -acodec mp3 -ac 1 -ar 8000 -r 25 -ab 32 -y video.3gp
[17:30] <ikonia> flea: what is the module name?
[17:30] <TheBills> hello?
[17:30] <ikonia> flea: as in the module thats causing you the problem
[17:30] <erUSUL> TheBills: ethernet ? almost anything
[17:30] <ikonia> TheBills: yes, hello
[17:30] <TheBills> wireless
[17:30] <Muhammad_Saad> Hello, I have installed an additional Urdu keyboard layout but cannot get it to appear in the "Layouts" section of "Keyboard Preferences". What should I do?
[17:30] <flea> ikonia: thx sym53c8xx
[17:30] <TheBills> most of them havent worked
[17:30] <ikonia> TheBills: read the link ubotu sent you
[17:31] <TheBills> using ndiswrapper?
[17:31] <ikonia> flea: and when you do, sym53c8xx.blacklist=true thats not working
[17:31] <tortus> What does "Unable to grab device (Device or resource busy)" tell me?
[17:31] <tortus> in Xorg.0.log
[17:31] <flea> TheBills: there are vast guides on just about all of them on google
[17:31] <ikonia> tortus: what are you doing
[17:31] <flea> ikonia: yes it d/regards the command as an error
[17:31] <eTiger13> ikonia, syslog would contain the cron job log right? i can see that it ran, but i dont know if the script ran successfully. how could i tell that?
[17:31] <TheBills> yes but they never work
[17:32] <ikonia> TheBills: then it's not supported, ubuntu can't be responsible for ndiswrapper/windows drivers
[17:32] <TheBills> ok
[17:32] <tortus> ikonia, im trying to get evdev back working. Stopped to work this day, somehow my mouse wont move
[17:32] <ikonia> eTiger13 you'd have to put error trapping in the script
[17:32] <ikonia> eTiger13: as cron just launches the script for you
[17:32] <TheBills> well there is one that works without any mods
[17:32] <flea> TheBills: if they dont work, how u suppose we're all using linux these days?
[17:32] <unop_> Muhammad_Saad, maybe this helps? http://ur.wikipedia.org/wiki/معاونت:Ubuntu_Linux_Localization
[17:33] <ricanelite> why is that the application im running like xchat where I set it to minimize to my system tray it does not appear
[17:33] <TheBills> do you put a .inf file a certain folder?
[17:33] <Christos> hi
[17:33] <unop_> Muhammad_Saad, also - www.urduweb.org/wiki/UbuntuLinux?show_comments=1
[17:33] <eTiger13> TheBills, have you ever considered it is your machine?
[17:33] <ikonia> TheBills: you write the file into a text file in that directory
[17:33] <iliya_> I'm folowing manual https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT61 but I have prob with step 'Configuring the connection'
[17:33] <ricanelite> also skype does the same i minimize skype and now it is gone but before it use to minimize to the system tray right by my clock
[17:34] <TheBills> well its an HP
[17:34] <erUSUL> TheBills: my conceptronic ralink rt2500pci worked out of the box and still is
[17:34] <TheBills> and the netggear USB adap works
[17:34] <iliya_> I'm conecting to public network and pass is 'mnnews' which is shorter than 8 char and I cant generate WPA Key using the following command: $ wpa_passphrase YOUR_SSID YOUR_PASSPHRASE
[17:34] <Christos> could somebody tell me how to install a wireless connection with a netgear WPN111 adaptor?
[17:34] <erUSUL> TheBills: but it may be hard to find nowadays
[17:34] <MORPHEU_ANTI-LAM> alguem de sao paulo?
[17:34] <fsk141> minifsk.com
[17:34] <TheBills> yeah ive nnver heard of hat
[17:34] <ikonia> TheBills what is your question ?
[17:34] <flea> bcm43xx         - hp
[17:34] <flea> works
[17:34] <TheBills> i wanna actaully improve the adapter
[17:35] <perrito666> sorry, a small question, is it some netinstall version of ubuntu?
[17:35] <ikonia> TheBills: you'll need to use a better driver or write one
[17:35] <jussio1> !install | perrito666
[17:35] <TheBills> it really just needs a stronger reciever
[17:35] <ubotu> perrito666: Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[17:35] <iliya_> I'm folowing manual https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT61 but I have prob with step 'Configuring the connection'
[17:35] <iliya_> I'm conecting to public network and pass is 'mnnews' which is shorter than 8 char and I cant generate WPA Key using the following command: $ wpa_passphrase YOUR_SSID YOUR_PASSPHRASE
[17:35] <ikonia> TheBills: please stop discussing this, it's getting tedious now
[17:35] <iliya_> help :(
[17:35] <perrito666> jussio1: thanks
[17:35] <TheBills> ok
[17:35] <jussio1> :)
[17:35] <Christos> can i ask again?
[17:35] <TheBills> yes
[17:36] <eTiger13> iliya_, command line or gui?
[17:36] <QuickGold> How do I kill stopped jobs if I'm logged into a server via SSH?
[17:36] <B-rabbit> erUSUL, it didn't work but thnx anyway :) ...appreciate it
[17:36] <TheBills> how many people in this chat?
[17:36] <ikonia> QuickGold: find the job with ps, then use kill
[17:36] <Muhammad_Saad> Thanks unop_
[17:36] <eTiger13> QuickGold, you can use top
[17:36] <flea> QuickGold: jobs -l
[17:36] <iliya_> command line
[17:36] <ikonia> TheBills: over 1000, the channel is for support questions only
[17:36] <QuickGold> flea: ty
[17:36] <jussio1> !wireless | Christos
[17:36] <ubotu> Christos: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[17:36] <flea> QuickGold: np
[17:36] <Johnson> hey does anyone in here use floola actually get video to work
[17:37] <QuickGold> flea: I see a list of stopped jobs...how do I kill them now?
[17:37] <budluva> can someone lend a hand as how to use hexedit, im trying to change a byte in a video file
[17:37] <flea> QuickGold: apply kill -<code> to the pid
[17:37] <eTiger13> budluva, seriously?
[17:37] <QuickGold> flea: <code> being what?
[17:37] <ikonia> flea: I'm just going through this document http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/gregkh/lkn/lkn_pdf/ch09.pdf and it is suggesting that the syntax is correct.
[17:37] <flea> QuickGold: kill -9 1234
[17:38] <QuickGold> flea: ty
[17:38] <flea> QuickGold: np
[17:38] <unop_> budluva, just one byte?
[17:38] <Christos> jussio yes
[17:38] <xZEXx> anyone know a good howto for firefox quicktime plugin in ubuntu 6.07?
[17:38] <killuats> hi all!
[17:38] <ikonia> xZEXx: there is no 6.07 version
[17:38] <Christos> the problem is i DON"T see a wireless connection option
[17:38] <ikonia> xZEXx: 6.10, 7.04, 7.10
[17:39] <xZEXx> sorry 6.10
[17:39] <ikonia> xZEXx: https://help.ubuntu.com search for restricted formats
[17:39] <killuats> im using ubuntu 7.10 and right now im running out of disk space, can i just delete all the contents of /var/backups or i still need to run an special application that does that?
[17:39] <ikonia> killuats: you can delete it
[17:39] <flea> ikonia i'll look it over but TY for the find
[17:39] <flea> ikonia: great doc to have on hand
[17:39] <killuats> ikonia: thanks.
[17:39] <ikonia> flea: it's big, I'm reading through it now
[17:39] <ikonia> flea: it's a good reference, for sure
[17:40] <budluva> unop_, yes
[17:40] <jussio1> Christos: did you see what I was pointing to?
[17:40] <budluva> hexedit video.h264 //I change the 67 64 00 33 byte to 67 64 00 29. This is to replace what h264info does to change the level from 5.1 to 4.1. According to MP4Box's analysis of the resulting mp4 the file is in fact seen as a 4.1 file.
[17:41] <budluva> unop_, i've tried to search for 67 64 00 33 in hexedit and it finds nothing
[17:41] <jussio1> Christos: you have a netgear wg111, correct?
[17:41] <TheBills> netgear wg111v2 works
[17:42] <TheBills> when will Ubuntu 8 be ready?
[17:42] <ikonia> TheBills: end of the month
[17:42] <budluva> TheBills, 17 days?
[17:42] <TheBills> cool
[17:42] <DJones> TheBills: 24th april
[17:42] <jussio1> 24th april.
[17:42] <TheBills> i wish i could make a program
[17:42] <jussio1> !ot | TheBills
[17:42] <ubotu> TheBills: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[17:43] <ikonia> TheBills: this is not a chat channell, as I've mentioned to you before
[17:43] <flea> ikonia, off to test again :/ i'll post results shortly ty again
[17:43] <ikonia> flea: be interesting
[17:43] <warmexxus> ouch
[17:43] <unop_> budluva, hmm, any chance you can dump this file in a pastebin?
[17:44] <budluva> unop_, which file?
[17:44] <eTiger13> budluva, what are you using to edit this?
[17:44] <budluva> hexedigt
[17:44] <budluva> hexedit
[17:45] <budluva> http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=689757
[17:45] <andre_> hi
[17:45] <ikonia> hi andre_
[17:45] <budluva> im converting an x264 mkv to mp4 so i can play on my xbox360, but x360 doesn't have support for 5.1, so apparently if i change the value of this certain byte the video file shows up as 4.1
[17:46] <budluva> but have no idea how to change a byte, and no clue how to use hexedit
[17:46] <OpenGuru> Hi. Can somebody tell me, is g++ -march=i386 is possible with 64bit machine
[17:47] <OpenGuru> @budluva,  you can recode the video with mencoder..
[17:47] <jkso> hi all
[17:47] <maek> 64-bit processors can do 32-bit OpenGuru
[17:47] <jkso> how can i config multiple desktop on ubuntu 7.10???
[17:47] <maek> hi jkso how are you
[17:48] <budluva> OpenGuru, i dont want to re-encode, just remux and put the mkv into an mp4 container
[17:48] <maek> what do you mean jkso ??
[17:48] <unop_> budluva, does this return anything?  hexdump video.h264 | grep -E "67.*64.*00.*33"
[17:48] <OpenGuru> @maek, but what are dependent libs
[17:48] <jkso> anyone can help me?
[17:48] <eTiger13> budluva, do you know what a mkv file is?
[17:48] <jussio1> jkso: like dual screen?
[17:48] <OpenGuru> @budluva, mencoder can do that..
[17:48] <OpenGuru> @budluva, just just video and audio codec as COPY
[17:48] <jkso> no no number of desktop
[17:48] <GradientMac> Guys, I'm a Mac user, and I'm just wondering how to boot Ubuntu as a live CD without effecting Mac OS X underneath- all I want to do is check out Ubuntu, I might install it on my school laptop if it's good enough to surpass Windows. I do NOT want it on my Mac though, I just want to see it on my Mac.
[17:49] <maek> like a cube jkso ??
[17:49] <jussio1> GradientMac: ppc or intel?
[17:49] <turdega> jkso, you should have a desktop chooser at the bottom right side of yoru screen by default, right click that and you can change the amount
[17:49] <GradientMac> Intel
[17:49] <OpenGuru> GradientMac, booting into live cd wont harm your hard disk
[17:49] <eTiger13> GradientMac, there should be a mac boot disk. it wont install unless you tell it to
[17:49] <jkso> yes i need 6 desktop
[17:49] <jkso> without compiz cube
[17:49] <GradientMac> Ok. Cool.
[17:49] <budluva> unop_, ya, i ll pastebin the results
[17:50] <GradientMac> How do I boot into the hard disk? I know I press option, do I press it directly after the chime?
[17:50] <jussio1> GradientMac: grab a standard live cd and boot it :)
[17:50] <genii> GradientMac: The livecd will not install anything unless you specifically run the "Install" on desktop. To boot cd on most Macs hold the C key down while booting
[17:50] <jkso> turdega: i close that bar for awn
[17:50] <budluva> eTiger13, mkv is hd stream no?
[17:50] <jkso> how can i do now?
[17:50] <budluva> OpenGuru, mencoder have a gui?
[17:50] <jussio1> GradientMac: note that the livecd will be somewhat slower than regular ubuntu
[17:50] <OpenGuru> budluva, yes..
[17:50] <GradientMac> I was told to hold the option key directly after the chime- is that correct?
[17:50] <budluva> OpenGuru, im not digging this hexediting command line shiat
[17:50] <OpenGuru> budluva, meGUI but its a windows app
[17:50] <budluva> bah
[17:51] <budluva> no native gui?
[17:51] <turdega> jkso,  okay
[17:51] <OpenGuru> budluva, all you need is this terminal command..
[17:51] <turdega> jkso, add to top panel "Workplace Switcher"
[17:51] <eTiger13> budluva, no, mkv is a video/audio container, not an actual codec
[17:51] <jussio1> budluva: vlc does simple transcoding.
[17:51] <budluva> unop_, ya that grep output just keeps spittin out numbers not stopping
[17:51] <OpenGuru> budluva, mencoder file.mkv -ovc copy -oac copy -o output.avi
[17:52] <tyler> WOOT! I've the wireless on my Vostro 1000 working!
[17:52] <jkso> done
[17:52] <unop_> budluva, maybe this then?  hexdump video.h264 | grep -E "67..64..00..33"
[17:52] <OpenGuru> budluva, http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mencoder_Introduction_Guide
[17:52] <jkso> now?
[17:52] <budluva> OpenGuru, ya i need to change the audio track to 4.1 or even stereo sound as xbox360 doesnt support 5.1 in avi's
[17:52] <GradientMac> Heh, guys, all I'm wondering is how to boot from a live CD. Do I just press option directly after the start up sound?
[17:52] <turdega> jkso, now right click on the workspace switcher and change the horizontal option to 6
[17:53] <jussio1> !yay | tyler
[17:53] <ubotu> tyler: Glad you made it! :-)
[17:53] <jussio1> GradientMac: do you know how to boot from any other cd?
[17:53] <GradientMac> no
[17:53] <OpenGuru> budluva, it will remux only.. it just copies everything..
[17:53] <jkso> ah ok ok thanks a lot turdega XD
[17:53] <tyler> GradientMac: Set the Boot sequence to your cd drive first
[17:53] <turdega> jkso, enjoy ^^
[17:53] <jussio1> GradientMac: as someone said, I think you hit c, but that could be wrong.
[17:53] <jkso> hi
[17:53] <eTiger13> GradientMac, i think you hold C
[17:53] <OpenGuru> budluva, change the oac to something else say mp3
[17:53] <GradientMac> Directly after the chime?
[17:53] <jussio1> yes
[17:53] <GradientMac> Ok I'll try
[17:53] <GradientMac> see ya.
[17:53] <tyler> jussio1: Now I just need the code for the brightness settings
[17:54] <n-iCe> how can I remove a program completly I want to remove wine, with all the folders files created
[17:54] <OpenGuru> can somebody say what is wrong here ? gcc program01.c -march=i386            does not support x86-64 instruction s
[17:54] <OpenGuru> program01.c:1: error: CPU you selected does not support x86-64 instruction set
[17:54] <tyler> n-iCe: hunt them down in tracker
[17:54] <n-iCe> tyler,  uh? how is that
[17:54] <ikonia> OpenGuru your cpu is not 64bit os
[17:54] <OpenGuru> budluva, mencoder movie.wmv -o movie.avi -ovc copy -oac mp3lame
[17:54] <budluva> openguru, got to 3% and then it stops with an err
[17:55] <OpenGuru> budluva, what is the error ?
[17:55] <tyler> n-iCe, use your Tracker tool in the Accessories menu to hunt all of your known installations down
[17:55] <OpenGuru> ikonia, i am in 64bit machine. OS is also 64. i am trying to compile for i386 arch
[17:55] <unop_> OpenGuru, you trying to cross compile?
[17:55] <jals> if i install the latest hardy beta will i be able to upgrade it when the full release comes out or will it require downloading a new cd and upgrading/installing
[17:55] <OpenGuru> unop_, yes
[17:55] <ikonia> OpenGuru: thats cross-compiling
[17:56] <budluva> open well that second command you gave me seems to be working
[17:56] <budluva> hold on
[17:56] <ikonia> OpenGuru: is your gcc compiler multi-lib
[17:56] <OpenGuru> unop_, ikonia, you are righ..
[17:56] <eTiger13> jals itll upgrade
[17:56] <OpenGuru> ikonia, sorry.. but how to check that.. ?
[17:56] <ikonia> OpenGuru: is it the ubuntu gcc ?
[17:57] <jals> eTiger13, great, thanks
[17:57] <OpenGuru> ikonia, yes. . taken from ubuntu repo
[17:57] <ikonia> OpenGuru: then it's not multi-lib
[17:57] <MarcinO> eh, updating :| is there gonna be 100mb update every day?  I'm sick of that....
[17:57] <OpenGuru> ikonia, i need the multi-lib ? do i need to compile gcc now ?
[17:57] <beast> hello
[17:58] <turdega> MarcinO, are you running Hardy?
[17:58] <beast> can anyone tell me the shell command for system update
[17:58] <Pici> MarcinO: You should only be getting that if you are running Hardy, and in that case, you should be expecting that.
[17:58] <OpenGuru> budluva, u there ? how is it going on..
[17:58] <JasonWoof> beast: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[17:58] <ikonia> OpenGuru: you need a full 32bit lib and 64bit environment, you then need to build a bootstrapper gcc that is multi-lib, then use that to build a multi-lib gcc
[17:58] <beast> one of those commands?
[17:58] <OpenGuru> beast, sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[17:59] <MarcinO> Pici: i am running it (: and i recon it's quite better that gutsy. but updating every day is quite boring
[17:59] <budluva> OpenGuru, 31%
[17:59] <Pici> !hardy | MarcinO
[17:59] <ubotu> MarcinO: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[17:59] <JasonWoof> beast: update updates the list of stuff that can be installed, upgrade upgrades all installed packages that have updates available
[17:59] <recon> geh, stupid false alarms.
[17:59] <OpenGuru> ikonia, thanks.. I actually need to it for Zoto uploader compilation.. they have hardcoded thing for i386. I need hack..
[17:59] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, hey my x jus restarted it happened twice
[17:59] <OpenGuru> budluva, enjoy.. and  bye..
[17:59] <MarcinO> Pici: yes, i know what it is (:
[18:00] <ikonia> OpenGuru: enjoy, if something is hardcoded for 32bit, I suspect you won't get it working 64bit
[18:00] <JasonWoof> I have a laptop with windows booted off the ubuntu hardy livecd, a very large external harddrive, and experience using linux. How can I back up the entire laptop hard drive such that:
[18:00] <budluva> OpenGuru, so your saying the resulting avi will be playable on x360? cause as far as ive read it wont except x264 5.1 audio, so i have to change the audio track to stereo
[18:00] <JasonWoof> 1) I can restore the HD completely (ever after it's reformatted)
[18:00] <arvind_khadri>  hey my x jus restarted it happened twice
[18:00] <OpenGuru> ikonia, thanks for helping.. let me check..
[18:00] <ikonia> JasonWoof: how do you have windows booted from an ubuntu livecd ?
[18:00] <turdega> MarcinO, once hardy goes stable it will chill out on all those updates.  in the mean time keep updating and reporting any bugs you find
[18:00] <JasonWoof> and 2) I can get individual files out of the backup using linux
[18:00] <turdega> but i must agree hardy is pretty amazing even at this point
[18:00] <OpenGuru> budluva, mp3 uses stereo for audio,, there is no 5.1 support
[18:01] <JasonWoof> I have a laptop with windows which is  booted off the ubuntu hardy livecd, a very large external harddrive, and experience using linux. How can I back up the entire laptop hard drive such that:
[18:01] <|Dede|> I send myself an email, using "mail user", how can I open and read it?
[18:01] <MarcinO> turdega: there's quite a lot of that. my computer even freezes sometimes. and only 'reset' can help it ;/
[18:01] <ikonia> JasonWoof: dd the hard disk ?
[18:01] <OpenGuru> bye all..
[18:02] <beast> ok
[18:02] <JasonWoof> ikonia: sounds fun. I'm assuming I could easily restore that. but can I mount the image as well?
[18:02] <budluva> OpenGuru, so your using mencode to copy the video track, and copy the audio track and convert it to mp3? w/ mp3lame
[18:02] <ikonia> JasonWoof: no, it's not an image
[18:02] <ikonia> JasonWoof: you could restore it, by dd'ing it back very eas
[18:02] <ikonia> easy
[18:02] <turdega> MarcinO, yeah I've been having some freezes happening in the gnome panel and some issues with compiz overall awesome experience though it will really rock once it goes live
[18:02] <beast> is that possible to update the version of ubuntu I am using to the new 8.04 beta version without installing it from the live cd
[18:02] <beast> ??
[18:02] <ikonia> !hardy > beast
[18:03] <JasonWoof> ikonia: right. is there some format I can use that will be able to restore like that and be mountable?
[18:03] <ikonia> beast: see the link from ubotu
[18:03] <|Dede|> I send myself an email, using "mail user", how can I open and read it?
[18:03] <beast> link
[18:03] <ikonia> JasonWoof: make an iso file system and copy it onto it ?
[18:03] <ikonia> |Dede|: type "mail"
[18:03] <JasonWoof> beast: you should be able to use the "update manager" from your existing ubuntu install
[18:03] <JasonWoof> beast: I haven't needed a CD to upgrade from 7.4 then 7.10, then 8.4beta
[18:03] <|Dede|> ikonia: and after that?
[18:03] <ikonia> |Dede|: nothing
[18:04] <ikonia> |Dede|: that should display your mail
[18:04] <|Dede|> there is a list
[18:04] <ikonia> |Dede|: each number is a mail messsage
[18:04] <|Dede|> ikonia there is a list of 2 mail? how do I select one
[18:04] <turdega> join #unemployment
[18:04] <|Dede|> *mails
[18:04] <MarcinO> turdega: only in gnome panel and compiz?I had that before but now I have complete freezes - even music is freezing.
[18:04] <ikonia> |Dede|: press one or two
[18:04] <beast> ok, it means if i udate the packges it will upgrade the version to the 8.04 beta
[18:04] <ikonia> beast: read the link form ubotu
[18:04] <Pici> This is not the channel for 8.04 discussion.
[18:04] <beast> ok
[18:04] <Pici> : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[18:04] <JasonWoof> beast: I don't know how to update to a new ubuntu release on the cmdline
[18:05] <turdega> !hardy | beast
[18:05] <ubotu> beast: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[18:05] <turdega> MarcinO, if you are having extended issues with Hardy you might want to check #ubuntu+1 also
[18:06] <ikonia> turdega: it says it in the link you've just posted
[18:06] <Exteris> what would be the fastest/best way to virtualize a windows install on my other disk?
[18:06] <turdega> ikonia, indeed =)
[18:06] <Exteris> *boot in a virtual machine
[18:07] <tbielawa> Exteris: have you loked into virtualbox?
[18:07] <MarcinO> how can i remove whole kde4 whole hardy leaving few apps and a shiny-new theme for qt4 ?
[18:07] <n-iCe> I can't eject my cdrom, says error, how can I force it?????
[18:07] <StucKman> hi all. is there any way to install *buntu from a usb stick?
[18:07] <Exteris> tbielawa, i have tried, couldn't get it to work though, i'm now looking at KVM
[18:07] <StucKman> or do a net-install?
[18:07] <jussio1> !install | StucKman
[18:07] <ubotu> StucKman: Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[18:07] <Pici> !usb | StucKman
[18:07] <ubotu> StucKman: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[18:08] <kane77> I somehow borked my X.. each time I boot it gives me error saying something is wrong with X and that I should configure it (the error dialog is GUI not the terminal one) after which I am taken to the 'Screens and Graphics' dialog (that's where I messed and broken it as I was trying to configure second screen)
[18:08] <StucKman> Pici: tx
[18:08] <StucKman> jussio1: ditto
[18:08] <GradientMac> I can oficially say that I like Ubuntu's interface much more then WIndows.
[18:08] <n-iCe> I can't eject my cdrom, says error, how can I force it?????
[18:09] <rwycuff> kane77:try a terminal with no X running and just run Xorg --configure
[18:09] <OpenGuru> anyone here who has compiled Zotouploader ?
[18:09] <budluva> openguru, ok the resulting movie.avi doesnt play in totem
[18:09] <turdega> n-iCe, if you need to get the disc out quickly then use a paperclip on eject hole on the bezel of the drive
[18:09] <GradientMac> Ubuntu is going on my school laptop!
[18:09] <GradientMac> =]
[18:09] <tbielawa> n-iCe: sudo eject /dev/cdrom
[18:09] <budluva> openguru, nothing in vlc either, no video or audio
[18:10] <DKong> is it normal for ubuntu 8.04 to have 100 updates every few days?
[18:10] <bnex10> hello i need help with tcl
[18:10] <n-iCe> tbielawa,  thanks, says it is busy how can I stop it?
[18:10] <kane77> rwycuff, no, that's a different error I guess... in the graphics card tab of Screen and Graphics preferences it gives me two graphics cards (??) one is mine (intel and second one is vesa)
[18:10] <turdega> !hardy | DKong
[18:10] <ubotu> DKong: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[18:10] <crunchybumble> anyone here ever used testdisk to recover lost data, and wouldn't mind lending their expertise?
[18:10] <arvind_khadri> n-iCe, use cdtools
[18:10] <budluva> OpenGuru, no video, there is audio though
[18:10] <tbielawa> n-iCe: you may need to unmount it. try running sudo umount -l /dev/cdrom && sudo eject /dev/cdrom
[18:11] <OpenGuru> budluva, do this.. open terminal..
[18:11] <DKong> oops ok thank you
[18:11] <rwycuff> kane77:the option for vesa is in every install and the Xorg --configure command should auto detect all your hardware and get it working again
[18:11] <OpenGuru> budluva, mplayer file.avi
[18:11] <OpenGuru> budluva, tell the error msg..
[18:12] <JasonWoof> ikonia: thanks for the backup suggestions. Do I need to pass any special options to dd? or just if=/dev/sdwhatever of=/mnt/huge_drive/dd_image
[18:12] <budluva> xscreensaver_disable: Could not find XScreenSaver window.
[18:12] <StucKman> Pici: this does not work with feisty, does it? the vfat fs is not supported in casper's kernel...
[18:13] <Pici> StucKman: I'm not sure, sorry :/
[18:13] <GradientMac> Thanks guys for helping me with the live CD, you made my school laptop a switcher! =] My Mac will stay though =] I like Mac OS X too much.
[18:13] <kane77> rwycuff, okay.. will try it
[18:13] <unop_> JasonWoof, you could up the blocksize a bit so you get an optimal performance  bs=8192
[18:13] <genii> JasonWoof: Without options dd will do byte at a time, you can use ibs and obs options to specify larger chunks
[18:13] <GradientMac> Isn't Mac OS X a type of linux anyway?
[18:13] <GradientMac> Well Unix?
[18:13] <JasonWoof> unop_, genii: thanks!
[18:14] <genii> GradientMac: No, it's a derivative of BSD which is derived of Unix
[18:14] <OpenGuru> GradientMac, you can make ur ubuntu look like Mac..
[18:14] <kane77> GradientMac, not really.. it's more of bsd sort of thing afaik
[18:14] <budluva> OpenGuru, aprrently i dont have Xv enabled
[18:14] <OpenGuru> GradientMac, check howtoforge if u want this..
[18:14] <GradientMac> It's no the looks that I need.
[18:14] <GradientMac> I like the Ubuntu gnome looks
[18:14] <OpenGuru> budluva, install.. and try again..
[18:14] <GradientMac> But I like the way the interface works.
[18:14] <GradientMac> I like the dock
[18:14] <OpenGuru> GradientMac, good.. best of luck..
[18:14] <GradientMac> I like the applications
[18:14] <GradientMac> I just like my Mac!
[18:14] <FloodBot1> GradientMac: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:14] <GradientMac> Thanks guys!
[18:15] <unop> genii, i think the default is bs=512 not a byte at a time
[18:15] <OpenGuru> bye..
[18:15] <kane77> rwycuff, should I run it as root?
[18:16] <rwycuff> kane77:yes it needs to be run as root
[18:16] <alex101> Hi, i'm trying to open a .exe file, though its a setup file for Need for speed carbon and im trying to use wine to run it and when i right click and press open with wine, nothing happens.
[18:18] <alex101> Hi, i'm trying to open a .exe file, though its a setup file for Need for speed carbon and im trying to use wine to run it and when i right click and press open with wine, nothing happens
[18:18] <jeezyme> hey guys, how do i choose a repository source so that the downloads are quicker?
[18:18] <rwycuff> alex101: try running from command line and if that does work check with #wine
[18:18] <alex101> How do i run from command line?
[18:18] <budluva> openguru, if i go mplayer file.avi -vo x11 it works though
[18:18] <jermain> hi everyone
[18:18] <kindofabuzz> looking for a proftpd guru =)
[18:18] <jermain> my external hd has permission issues
[18:18] <arvind_khadri> jeezyme, edit ur etc/apt/sources.list
[18:18] <jermain> it says i only have read acces
[18:18] <arvind_khadri> jeezyme, edit ur  /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:19] <jermain> and i cant change the permissions
[18:19] <rwycuff> alex101 run "man wine" and it will tell you wine <options> *.exe
[18:19] <jeezyme> thanks
[18:19] <alex101> where do i run man wine? lmao, i've only been using linux for 2 month's.
[18:19] <budluva> openguru, so i can just burn this .avi and it should play on xbox no?
[18:20] <arvind_khadri> alex101, in the terminal ,Alt+F2 then type gnome-terminal
[18:21] <kindofabuzz> 2 months you should no where to type commands in
[18:21] <jermain> can anyone tell me how to change the permissions on my external hd?
[18:21] <jeezyme> now, how do i know which source is faster? any script/app for finding that out?
[18:21] <alex101> I've typed man wine in on terminal, now what?
[18:21] <danbhfive> jermain: how is the drive being mounted?
[18:21] <arvind_khadri> alex101, read it,
[18:21] <rwycuff> alex101:understand...ive been using for 10 + years and once you get use to it its linux or unix and nothing else
[18:21] <jermain> it was mounted automatically
[18:22]  * delcoyote hi
[18:22] <danbhfive> jermain: is there a line in your fstab file for it?
[18:22] <jermain> i formatted it minutes ago to ext3
[18:22] <jermain> i dont think so
[18:22] <alex101> o_o Nice
[18:22] <rwycuff> alex101: yuo know how to open the terminal right
[18:22] <jermain> wait lemme check
[18:22] <alex101> Yeah.
[18:22] <alex101> It said for gui files wich is windows install files to use wineconsole
[18:22] <alex101> How do i use that?
[18:23] <arvind_khadri> alex101, use the terminal for tat
[18:23] <n3o> irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu-fr
[18:23] <arvind_khadri> alex101, it may be wineconsole <filename>
[18:23] <rwycuff> alex101:open the terminal and type "wine  /path/to /exe
[18:23] <arvind_khadri> alex101, you have the man pages not we
[18:23] <jermain> danbhfive: /.fstab or ~/fstab?
[18:24] <unop> jermain, sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /path/to/mountpoint;  # < ought to do the trick
[18:24] <alex101> How do i direct the path if the install is on a disk?
[18:24] <jeezyme> how to edit the sources.list file to made the downloads quicker??
[18:24] <danbhfive> jermain: /etc/fstab
[18:25] <jermain> k
[18:25] <Gilou> !aptfix
[18:25] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[18:25] <arvind_khadri> jeezyme, the downloads are quick only...maybe the speed at ur end is slow
[18:26] <antonio1984> ola
[18:26] <jermain> danbhfive, theres no line for it. unop; what does that do?
[18:26] <arvind_khadri> jeezyme, or else remove the un=neccessary repo's
[18:26] <jeezyme> well, different mirrors might have different speeds rite?
[18:26] <n-iCe> what means there is no a new / at the end of etc/fstab , when I try to reject my cd rom?
[18:26] <unop> jermain, make you the owner of all files/directories on the drive
[18:26] <antonio1984> boa tarde alguem de que fale português está online?
[18:26] <alex101> wine /usr/alex/nfscarbon/setup.exe
[18:27] <alex101> I typed that
[18:27] <arvind_khadri> jeezyme, have u enabled all the repo's
[18:27] <alex101> and it didnt work
[18:27] <jermain> k thanks
[18:27] <rwycuff> alex101: type whereis NAME OF EXE and that will show yuo its path
[18:27] <alex101> alex@ubuntu:~$ whereis setup.exe
[18:27] <alex101> setup:
[18:27] <antonio1984> alguem pode ajudar-me?
[18:27] <alex101> thats what it said. :/
[18:28] <Pici> !pt | antonio1984
[18:28] <ubotu> antonio1984: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[18:28] <kane77> rwycuff, that did it I guess.. but the scroll zone on touchpad doesn't work now
[18:28] <danbhfive> jermain: my guess would be to add a line to your fstab file, use the UUID as the id, set it up probably similar to the way your cdrom is listed, and then set an appropriate umask
[18:28] <antonio1984> ok obrigado
[18:29] <alex101> alex@ubuntu:~$ whereis setup.exe
[18:29] <alex101> setup:
[18:29] <alex101> it said that.
[18:29] <rwycuff> kane77:thats somethinng that pry doesnt get auto detected causer its custom type feature like the 3 button emulation in X try googleing it and see what yuou find pry just string needed in the Xorg.conf
[18:30] <kane77> rwycuff, okay, thanx a lot
[18:30] <unop> danbhfive, mount does not recognize umask options for extX filesystems
[18:30] <rwycuff> alex101:ok try locate setup.exe and see what happens
[18:30] <jermain> unop; it worked!
[18:30] <danbhfive> unop: ok, didnt know that
[18:30] <n-iCe> How do I kill all the running proccesses?
[18:30] <jermain> dan, thank you for your help too
[18:30] <alex101> alex@ubuntu:~$ locate setup.exe
[18:30] <alex101> alex@ubuntu:~$
[18:31] <jermain> xD
[18:31] <alex101> that happened o_o
[18:31] <arvind_khadri> n-iCe, try killing init
[18:31] <n-iCe> arvind_khadri,  kill init ?
[18:31] <Exteris> alex101, sudo updatedb ?
[18:31] <n-iCe> how?
[18:31] <arvind_khadri> n-iCe, well i think u cant kill all the processes
[18:31] <sbox> hello all, I've downloaded open office 2.4 from the OO site, it's lots of deb files how do I go about installing it?
[18:31] <jermain> unop: will i have to give this command every time i mount the disk or is this a one time command?
[18:31] <Exteris> n-iCe, what do you want to do?
[18:31] <arvind_khadri> n-iCe, init is the parent of all processes
[18:32] <aguitel> what is the difference between main server and other servers?
[18:32] <Exteris> jermain, add it to fstab
[18:32] <n-iCe> arvind_khadri,  at least the one is using my cd rom, because I cannot reject it, says is busy
[18:32] <n-iCe> Exteris,  that
[18:32] <dtolj> n-iCe: ps -axjf then kill -9 <the PID>
[18:32] <unop> jermain, shouldn't be necessary
[18:32] <bottiger> I'm trying to set up apache to run on port 81, but it doesn't work. Does Ubuntu come with some kind of firewall?
[18:32] <alex101> Exteris i'm on that now.
[18:32] <bottiger> (apache doesn't write any errors)
[18:32] <alex101> and its blank.
[18:32] <Exteris> bottiger, /etc/apache2/sites-available
[18:32] <jermain> Exteris, unop: thank guys, Iĺl just remember the code in case.
[18:33] <arvind_khadri> n-iCe, use the gui present in system->admin for killing the process u want
[18:33] <Adys> Is it possible to modify theme images directly somewhere without installing a new theme?
[18:33] <n-iCe> dtolj,  done, how can I know which one is the cdrom procces?
[18:33] <Exteris> Adys, /usr/share/themes ~/.themes
[18:33] <Adys> cheers
[18:33] <dtolj> n-iCe: pstree is another good command to view process list in a tree view
[18:33] <Exteris> n-iCe, educated guess?
[18:33] <alex101> Nothings happening when i type sudo updatedb
[18:34] <Exteris> alex101, now retype the locate command
[18:34] <dtolj> n-iCe: hmm what program were you running k3b?
[18:34] <alex101> alex@ubuntu:~$ locate setup.exe
[18:34] <alex101> alex@ubuntu:~$
[18:34] <alex101> does that again.
[18:34] <Exteris> alex101, then you can assume that it's not there :P
[18:34] <budluva> openguru, i burnt movie.avi to a disc and tried to play in xbox, not supported
[18:34] <unitedroad> HI all
[18:34] <danand> alex101 - did you allow the sudo updatedb command to complete?
[18:34] <alex101> Well its on the disk thats in my laptop xD
[18:34] <alex101> yes.
[18:34] <alex101> Well it just went blanl
[18:34] <alex101> k*
[18:35] <FloodBot1> alex101: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:35] <n-iCe> dtolj,  which one should I kill: http://www.aksdkasdasd.pastebin.com/m4e5650e9
[18:35] <n-iCe> arvind_khadri, : http://www.aksdkasdasd.pastebin.com/m4e5650e9
[18:35] <FloodBot1> n-iCe: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:35] <Exteris> alex101, find / | grep -i setup.exe
[18:35] <unitedroad> I need some help with the new user creation
[18:35] <alex101> alex@ubuntu:~$ grep -i setup.exe
[18:35] <bottiger> Exteris: I know, I just copjust copied the default file and changed the port to 81
[18:35] <alex101> staying blank now lol
[18:36] <jcleong> hi, i just changed some variables in /etc/environment is there a way to make this go in effect without restarting my machine?
[18:36] <aguitel> what is the difference between main server and other servers?
[18:36] <dtolj> n-iCe: what are you trying to kill i dont understand ?
[18:36] <Pici> aguitel: location.
[18:36] <Exteris> bottiger, there may be some other things to do, like restarting apache2 with sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[18:36] <danand> alex101 - that may take a while :)
[18:36] <unitedroad> I created a new user on ubuntu but when I login using this user , Ubuntu fails to show any sound device
[18:36] <n-iCe> dtolj,  I want to reject my cdrom,  my disc says it is busy, something is using it, how can I know and kill it I need to get the cd
[18:36] <aguitel> Pici: only?
[18:36] <FloodBot1> usuario: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:36] <n-iCe> I am trying to install a game then it asked me for the disc 2, but I can't reject it, dtolj
[18:36] <alex101> danand, whats it doing exactly?
[18:37] <unitedroad> while if I login from my original user or through root, the sound works find
[18:37] <Pici> aguitel: If you're talking about mirrors. yes.
[18:37] <Exteris> n-iCe, sudo umount /media/cdrom
[18:37] <n-iCe> Exteris,  error, is busy
[18:37] <dtolj> n-iCe: you have to umount it first before you can 'eject' it
[18:37] <meltra_> one month without booting in to windows ... where do I collect my red chip ?
[18:37] <bottiger> Exteris: I have done that
[18:37] <danand> alex101 - updating the database locate uses to quickly find files
[18:37] <n-iCe> dtolj, I can't
[18:37] <MrBumblebee> is this dalnet?
[18:37] <aguitel> Pici: in software sources
[18:37] <Exteris> meltra_, do i get a black one for not booting into it for 1 year ?
[18:37] <danielwelch> Hi - any RHYTHMBOX experts to help with adding MP3 as a Rip format (I want to add 2, CD and Voice)
[18:38] <Exteris> bottiger, nothing in errorlog? strange if so
[18:38] <n-iCe> Exteris,  I can't either
[18:38] <alex101> Ah okay.
[18:38] <Exteris> n-iCe, --force or something?
[18:38] <Pici> aguitel: Yes, the only difference is location.  They get the same packages mirrored to them, but some may be faster for you if you are physically closer to them.
[18:38] <jcleong> is there anyway to make the changes in /etc/environment take effect without restarting?
[18:38] <rwycuff> danielwelch:the lame encoder should do botht hat for you
[18:39] <dtolj> n-iCe: you Exteris is right try force flag
[18:39] <aguitel> Pici: thankz
[18:39] <danielwelch> rwycuff: thanks - can I start private chat?
[18:39] <Sych0> hey all, i'm having issues with install, i'm hoping someone knows how to fix. Problem is when i install, and it gets to the part where it sets up the partitions, it doesn't recognize my SATA HDD and says there's no decives installed.
[18:40] <rwycuff> danielwelch:im rather busy but go for it
[18:40] <bottiger> Exteris: nothing in the error-log :/
[18:42] <h0ax> can anyone tell me what the problem is here : ./lib/rex/socket/ssl_tcp_server.rb:4:in `require': no such file to load -- openssl (LoadError)
[18:42]  * meltra_ hands Exteris his black chip and a botle of red wine
[18:42] <Pici> h0ax: Perhaps you should be asking that in #rubylang ?  (That is ruby, right?)
[18:42] <geronimaldo> Exteris should share the wine
[18:43] <h0ax> yeah. but i'm compiling it in ubuntu so i'm asking here
[18:43] <unitedroad> I created a new user on ubuntu but when I login using this user , Ubuntu fails to show any sound device
[18:43] <unitedroad> while if I login from my original user or through root, the sound works find
[18:43] <unitedroad> please someone help me with it
[18:43] <Pici> unitedroad: Add the user to the sound group
[18:43] <Drefsab> hi guys quick question I've installed exim4 (on my lan for learning purposes) and it seams the conf file is update-exim4.conf.conf can I just rename this to exim4.conf and restart the service and have it work?
[18:43] <PurpZeY> How can I determine which one of my harddrives is hda and which is hdb...One of them has an NTFS system on it. I want to install to the other one...
[18:43] <geronimaldo> what he said.. add to sound group
[18:43] <unitedroad> cool
[18:43] <unitedroad>  thanks alot
[18:43] <nickwebcoukok> quickie - i have an ipod that i couldnt write to when it automounted, so I changed the automount options (by right clicking it on the desktop), and now i cant get it to automount at all. how can i reset the options i set?
[18:44] <h0ax> there's only one person in rubylang
[18:44] <pipegeek> Kay, so..... I've got openoffice.org-style-human installed.  How do I actually apply said style?  Openoffice is still showing up with it's default, kind of ugly appearance
[18:44] <rwycuff> PurpZey:do you know which one is plugged in as pri master
[18:44] <Pici> h0ax: Sorry, its #ruby-lang
[18:44] <PurpZeY> rwycuff: No. I wish I did.
[18:44] <Exteris> okay, wine for everybody, it probably wont be much though
[18:45] <Exteris> !wine | everybody
[18:45] <ubotu> everybody: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[18:45] <Exteris> !redwine | everybody :P
[18:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about redwine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:45] <rwycuff> PurpZeY:then you would have to mount them to find out what is what
[18:46] <geronimaldo> Exteris haha
[18:46] <unitedroad> hey everyone thanks alot
[18:46] <unitedroad> I am out of here
[18:46] <Pici> !botabuse | Exteris please stop
[18:46] <ubotu> Exteris please stop: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[18:46] <geronimaldo> rwycuff parted as root can determine the filesystem of unmounted hds. . ?
[18:46] <unitedroad> take care everyone
[18:46] <fiXXXerMet> Could someone help me figure out why I'm getting "Bus error"s?  I have some debugging information and a bug report that I can show you.
[18:46] <rwycuff> true good idea
[18:47] <PurpZeY> geronimaldo: so run gparted from terminal?
[18:47] <meltra_> dho I'm part of GA keep wine as in the program out off here please, nothing more frustrating then dreaming about games on linux
[18:47] <geronimaldo> just parted. gparted brings up the gui program
[18:47] <meglaw> how do i start programs in my currently logged in X sesson? like 'vlc -f http cool-move.avi'
[18:48] <geronimaldo> PurpZeY: parted as root
[18:48] <geronimaldo> and use the print command
[18:48] <thierry> hi, my ubuntu is in another langage than english, how can I output a shell command in english?
[18:48] <StucKman> thierry: LC_ALL=C <command>
[18:49] <xx0xx> hello i changed my hostname now i having problem.. sudo: unable to lookup x0x.shellhosts.net via gethostbyname()
[18:49] <PurpZeY> geronimaldo: The information following "hda:" will be the information for that drive I assume?
[18:50] <xx0xx> how do i fix this problem now?
[18:50] <geronimaldo> PurpZeY yep. 1 = hda
[18:51] <n-iCe> is back
[18:51] <geronimaldo> PurpZeY: wait thats a rotten lie
[18:51] <cirkit_> hi ... is Linux hard?
[18:51] <linux60284> i can't find any programs to any ports on ubuntu, can someone help me
[18:51] <geronimaldo> PurpZeY: parted will select a hard disk. and then the printed command will show the filesystem(s) on that disk
[18:51] <c0ldfusion> cirkit, mine is
[18:51] <h0ax> cirkit_:  lol
[18:52] <PurpZeY> geronimaldo: That works though. If that drive has NTFS on it, that can't be the drive I want.
[18:52] <cirkit_> where can I buy Ubuntu?
[18:52] <Pici> !downlaod | cirkit_
[18:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about downlaod - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:52] <geronimaldo> to change the hard disk use e.g select /dev/hdb and print that one out
[18:52] <Pici> !download | cirkit_
[18:52] <ubotu> cirkit_: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive - PLEASE use the !torrents to download Gutsy, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[18:52] <dryrot> post your CC
[18:52] <c0ldfusion> cirkit_ hang on I'll give you my paypal account
[18:52] <h0ax> c0ldfusion:  forl
[18:52] <h0ax> rofl*
[18:52] <linux60284> i can't find any programs to any ports on ubuntu, can someone help me
[18:52] <c0ldfusion> lol
[18:52] <linux60284> *bind
[18:52] <meltra_> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/purchase
[18:52] <n-iCe> cirkit,  it is free :)
[18:52] <Pici> cirkit_: Ubuntu is free
[18:52] <PurpZeY> geronimaldo: My secondary issue is that I booted into the LiveCD via safe graphics mode...I have to fix my drivers once I install, will I be able to do that?
[18:52] <cirkit_> does Ubuntu include notepad.exe?
[18:53] <nickwebcoukok> quickie - i have an ipod that i couldnt write to when it automounted, so I changed the automount options (by right clicking it on the desktop), and now i cant get it to automount at all. how can i reset the options i set?
[18:53] <n-iCe> cirkit, wine includes it
[18:53] <linux60284> i can't bind ssh, or any program below or above 1024 as user or root
[18:53] <geronimaldo> PurpZeY: ive never had that problem. if the system fails to load xserver you´ll hav to install the drivers from the command line.
[18:54] <geronimaldo> PurpZeY: i´dask that question to the room again. guys...
[18:54] <PurpZeY> geronimaldo: How can I make parted look at the other drive?
[18:54] <sparr_> my home LAN has an IP address range that overlaps that of a VPN that I am connecting to, how can I remap one of them?
[18:55] <linux60284> geronimaldo: change the /dev/sda to /dev/sdb, its a dropdown
[18:55] <geronimaldo> PurpZeY if it´s hdb then ; select /ev/hdb
[18:55] <linux60284> sparr_: go to your router, https://192.168.1.1 probably, and change the submask to 10.0.0.0/255
[18:55] <vf123> !encrypt
[18:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about encrypt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:55] <|Dede|> How can you unban an IP/host that Fail2Ban has banned?
[18:55] <HardyHeron> aguitel:    thats a workaround correct..  not a fix
[18:56] <sparr_> linux60284: no
[18:56] <c0ldfusion> linux60284, that's 255.255.255.0 if you want class C
[18:56] <fantaman> ciao
[18:56] <aguitel> HardyHeron: it work in my pc
[18:56] <fantaman> a tutti
[18:56] <fantaman> sorry
[18:56] <linux60284> well, the router will most likely have a button to select 10.0.0.0, 172.16.0.0, or 192.168.0.0
[18:56] <PurpZeY> geronimaldo: Could not start device hdb - No such file or directory. But It is hdb
[18:56] <vf123> I am interested in encrypting my /home directory.  Is there any reason why I should not do this?  And can you suggest any software that works well for it?
[18:56] <sparr_> i dont want to change my IP
[18:57] <HardyHeron> aguitel:    i ended up uninstalling the 2 issues.. now i have no email icon
[18:57] <PurpZeY> geronimaldo: I ran select /dev/hdb
[18:57] <c0ldfusion> sparr_, what do you mean by overlapping
[18:57] <HardyHeron> and something funny is going on
[18:57] <aguitel> HardyHeron: try change in software sorces to the main server and make update & upgrade
[18:57] <sparr_> c0ldfusion: they both use 192.168.1.xxx
[18:57] <geronimaldo> yep..
[18:57] <HardyHeron> i do sudo apt-get install wireshark
[18:57] <HardyHeron> says cant find host
[18:57] <cirkit_> hi ... can I hack the planet if I install Linux?
[18:57] <kane77> after doing Xorg -configure my touchpad doesn't work anymore, specifically the scroll zone...
[18:57] <linux60284> sparr_ my modem uses 192.168.1.1 and my modem uses 192.168.100.1
[18:57] <linux60284> both work fine
[18:58] <HardyHeron> aguitel:   good ised
[18:58] <HardyHeron> idea
[18:58] <c0ldfusion> sparr_, so you have a vpn from your machine with that same address on the other side?
[18:58] <aguitel> HardyHeron: maybe it fix
[18:58] <sparr_> c0ldfusion: my IP is different on both networks, but within the same subnet
[18:58] <linux60284> sparr_: as long as the ips don't conflict, it should be okay
[18:58] <sparr_> linux60284: they do
[18:58] <HardyHeron> cirkit  dont make me lol
[18:58] <HardyHeron> let me see
[18:59] <PurpZeY> geronimaldo: hdb is not mounted though...hda is via NFS...So I know it must be hda...
[18:59] <c0ldfusion> sparr_, yeh I got that much; I don't know what you can do about that, other than change one subnet.
[18:59] <vf123> !truecrypt
[18:59] <ubotu> Truecypt is a free open-source on-the-fly disk encryption software.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TruecryptHiddenVolume
[18:59] <geronimaldo> PurpZeY: i´ve gotta dash. best of luck and may see you later.
[18:59] <sparr_> c0ldfusion: i dont have the authority to change either
[18:59] <geronimaldo> ok.. is it hda or hdb that you want to use
[18:59] <cirkit_> hack the planet
[18:59] <linux60284> sparr_: you could use the vmware network adapter and give yourself a new ip that way
[18:59] <sparr_> c0ldfusion: just for the sake of argument, lets pretend im using three VPNs, covering all of the legal LAN subnets, so there is no valid unique address scheme
[19:00] <linux60284> anyone know why i can't bind any programs to ANY ports (+ or - 1026)
[19:00] <MORPHEU_sp> ola pessoa
[19:00] <linux60284> sparr_: or you could VPN your local submask to another submask, that might work also (similar to the vmware network adapter technique)
[19:00] <c0ldfusion> sparr_, then you're sol
[19:00] <linux60284> anyone know why i can't bind any programs to ANY ports (+ or - 1026)???
[19:01] <c0ldfusion> I guess :p
[19:01] <MORPHEU_sp> flod
[19:01] <MORPHEU_sp> flod
[19:01] <MORPHEU_sp> flod
[19:01] <MORPHEU_sp> flod
[19:01] <MORPHEU_sp> flod
[19:01] <freesbie> excuse me, i am just curious, what pc/laptop is shipping ubuntu by default?
[19:01] <pokerfacepenguin> system76
[19:01] <linux60284> freesbie: Dell
[19:01] <freesbie> ty
[19:02] <freesbie> what's on olpc? eeepc?
[19:02] <linux60284> anyone know why i can't bind any programs to ANY ports (+ or - 1026)?
[19:02] <komputes> freesbie: olpc - one laptop per chiled
[19:02] <unop__> linux60284, you should be able to >=1024, how are you trying?
[19:02] <komputes> freesbie: eeepc - easy entertain something pc
[19:02] <linux60284> as root and as regular user
[19:03] <linux60284> both fail, both error "can't bind to port"
[19:03] <linux60284> for any program, i tried: apache, ssh, etc
[19:03] <komputes> freesbie: eeepc does not come with ubuntu, you may want to check out system76 or dell\
[19:03] <pokerfacepenguin> freesbie: yeah, olpc is a piece of hardware for the one laptop per child program, eepc is made by asus
[19:03] <freesbie> what distro is on gPC of VIA?
[19:04] <linux60284> unop: i tried services, command line, and from icons any and all programs, any suggestions
[19:04] <pokerfacepenguin> freesbie: not sure, guessing gOS
[19:04] <kazol> How do I set it so that the system hibernates after a specified amount of time?
[19:04] <freesbie> i got impressed by gPC, but it's still rough to me
[19:05] <cbx33> Hey guys
[19:05] <cbx33> anyone know of anysoftware to create graphics for video
[19:05] <cbx33> like the Hak5 people use
[19:05] <unop__> linux60284, hmm, i would go through these files to see if anything's out of order - /var/log/{dmesg,debug,syslog}
[19:05] <kazol> The power options only have the suspend option, which does not work on my hardware.
[19:05] <pokerfacepenguin> cbx33: looked at ubuntu studio yet?
[19:05] <freesbie> cbx33, this is a google question, buddy
[19:05] <cbx33> pokerfacepenguin, yeh
[19:06] <cbx33> I'm using kdenlive
[19:06] <cbx33> which is good
[19:06] <cbx33> but I need better intro graphics
[19:06] <cbx33> http://www.progbox.co.uk/wordpress/?p=520
[19:06] <linux60284> unop__: everything looks fine in the logs
[19:06] <pokerfacepenguin> cbx33: make your own with blender :)
[19:06] <adrock358> Can someone help me out with this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62540/
[19:07] <cbx33> yeh thought about that
[19:07] <adrock358> i am having big problems over here
[19:07] <cbx33> but then I have to composite in blender too
[19:07] <linux60284> unop__: any other suggestions?
[19:07] <adrock358> trying to get into my win part from ubuntu.  i have the right code, but now i am getting an error.  could someone check it out?
[19:07]  * kane77 fixed the touchpad thingy... what does the InputDevice "CorePointer" in xorg.conf mean anyway?
[19:07] <unop__> linux60284, it takes time trawling through those files and you need to put on your 'scrutiny' goggles before examining them .. small things do count, apart from that all i can suggest is having a look on launchpad if someone else might have experienced the same thing
[19:08] <adrock358> Has anyone ever done that?
[19:08] <cbx33> pokerfacepenguin, got any examples?
[19:08] <Dudicus_> any lvm2 pros I am trying to boot to my LVM root partition and I keep getting a kernel panic the partition is on a raid6 setup but the raid comes up fine..infact right after the raid comes up it tries the lvm part and fails..
[19:08] <linux60284> unop__: its on a server, so its a bad thing if its down for long
[19:08] <Dudicus_> any idea what I could be doing wroing?
[19:08] <linux60284> unop__: i guess i'll have to reinstall the OS when i get the time, i wish ubuntu was a little more stable, i would hate to go back to debian
[19:09] <unop__> linux60284, have you got any iptables rules in place?
[19:09] <linux60284> i am not using iptables, no firewall or pg2
[19:09] <adrock358> Anyone?
[19:09] <pokerfacepenguin> cbx33: of intros?  nope, but it can be done if they can make an entire movie with it (ie. the elephants dream, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsGEWHNJ3s8
[19:09] <linux60284> unop__: i was thinking it was a networking problem
[19:09] <cbx33> well sure
[19:09] <cbx33> but i kinda wanna blend it with video I have
[19:10] <unop__> linux60284, how did this condition come to be? i'm assuming it was all working fine at some point .
[19:10] <linux60284> unop__: the sudo /etc/init.d/networking start fails to start
[19:10] <komputes> Every time I log in numlock turns on on its own, does anyone know how to turn this off
[19:10] <linux60284> unop__: yes, i restart my computer
[19:10] <unop__> linux60284, what happens when you manually try and bring the interfaces up?
[19:10] <adrock358> Help!
[19:11] <linux60284> unop__: the error in the /etc/init.d/networking start gives me errors with ifup and ifdown
[19:11] <linux60284> unop__: so i am assuming i can't start/stop them manually (atheros at ath0)
[19:11] <antonio__> hola
[19:11] <unop__> linux60284, you make too many assumptions -- try it manually .. and pastebin the errors you get
[19:12] <antonio__> algún canal en castellano
[19:12] <adrock358> arrrgh.
[19:12] <adrock358> anybody?!
[19:12] <unop__> !es | antonio__
[19:12] <ubotu> antonio__: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[19:12] <lastelement0> hey all, how do i uninstall cedega and remove all files/folders associated with it?
[19:13] <linux60284> i get the error: "ifup: couldn't read interfaces file "/etc/networking/interfaces"
[19:13] <antonio__> si pero como entro
[19:13] <unop__> adrock358, ask a question to the room, don't wait for someone to respond to you
[19:13] <bastid_raZor> adrock358; if you have ntfs-3g installed you'll be able to read an ntfs partition no problem
[19:13] <unop__> antonio1984, /join #ubuntu-es
[19:13] <Wi9li4m> antonio /list #ubuntu*es
[19:13] <antonio__> donde tengo que poner eso
[19:14] <linux60284> unop__: does that error message give you any ideas what could cause that problem?
[19:14] <bobby> how do I output a command in english instead of the usual language?
[19:14] <linux60284> antonio: va al canal ubuntu-es por "/join #ubuntu-es"
[19:14] <unop__> linux60284, looks like you have a malformatted or missing interfaces file? check if it exists and if you can .. please put it in a pastebin for us to see
[19:14] <lastelement0> hey all, how do i uninstall cedega and remove all files/folders associated with it?
[19:15] <ChaosTheory_> I want to get the "showmouse" plugin in Compiz but I don't see it in the preferences?
[19:15] <unop__> lastelement0, was cedega installed as an ubuntu package?
[19:15] <lastelement0> unop__ yes
[19:16] <ChaosTheory_> Also, I don't have a 3D windows plugin.
[19:16] <ChaosTheory_> Do I have to update Compiz or something?
[19:16] <unop__> lastelement0, sudo aptitude purge cedega  # mind you, the package name might be named differently, so verify that
[19:16] <n-iCe> rebooting, brb
[19:17] <komputes> Every time I log in, my NumLk is on, does anyone know how to reset the numlk to off after the login (it does not affect the login screen)
[19:17] <antonio__> Gracias por la ayuda
[19:17] <linux60284> unop__: there we go, i fixed it by removing my bluetooth network
[19:17] <tylerflick> I'rm gonna go insane trying to get my dell brightness keys to work
[19:17] <linux60284> unop__: let me see if i can bind now
[19:17] <linux60284> unop__: no, i still can't bind, but at least i can /etc/init.d/network restart successfully
[19:18] <bastid_raZor> unop__;  lastelement0 has lost his mind.. cedega is not open source software. he had to of installed it with a script or from source
[19:18] <nouMenon> I tried opening a folder a little while ago and my CPU started saying it was 100% in use. This lasted for about 5 minutes and then I manually shut down my computer because the folder still wasn't opening and the restart button wouldn't work either. When it booted back up, it got to the loading screen and finished the loading bar, then a black screen with a cursor in the top left corner appeared and nothing happened. The cursor jus
[19:18] <nouMenon> t kept blinking and Ubuntu wouldn't load the password screen. I tried restarting three more times. The first two had the same problem, then this last time Ubuntu loaded for some reason. I'm afraid it may happen again, so if anyone knows how to bypass that screen or fix the problem I would really appreciate it.
[19:18] <adrock358> bastid_raZor  i want to pull out info from it, not just read it.  i can read it.  can't mount it though.
[19:18] <bastid_raZor> adrock358; if you are reading it.. it is mounted
[19:19] <kane77> how safe it is to resize ext3 partitions?
[19:20] <kamil_> dd
[19:20] <unop__> bastid_raZor, I find that funny - cedega is not open source .. he had to have installed it .. from source :)
[19:20] <ryrules1_> anyone in here on an iPhone??
[19:20] <kamil_> hello
[19:20] <unop__> bastid_raZor, it wouldnt come as a surprise to me if there were ubuntu .debs of cedega flying around
[19:21] <TWP-SirStaal> Whats the command to terminate all firefox process (is it "Killall firefox?")
[19:21] <adrock358> bastid_raZor  i meant i can see it, not read it
[19:21] <ryrules1_> install htop
[19:21] <unop__> TWP-SirStaal, killall firefox-bin
[19:21] <TWP-SirStaal> thanks
[19:21] <unop__> TWP-SirStaal, you can use tab-completion at the shell .. killall firefox<tab><tab>
[19:22] <ryrules1_> it will show all your active processes and you can kill them individually
[19:22] <bastid_raZor> unop__; i mistated.. i should have said ubuntu has yet to port it..
[19:22] <bastid_raZor> !mount  | adrock358
[19:22] <ubotu> adrock358: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[19:22] <TWP-SirStaal> I didn't have any windows open so trying this
[19:23] <ryrules1_> anyone been using hardy haron In here
[19:23] <bastid_raZor> adrock358; possibly try using sudo ? are the permissions wrong?
[19:23] <kane77> can gparted resize safely ext3 partitions?
[19:23] <bastid_raZor> ryrules1_; #ubuntu+1 is hardy support
[19:23] <samue1> Hello folks. Somone here knowing how I can backup a partition on another partition (on other HDD)
[19:23] <samue1> ?
[19:23] <ryrules1_> ok thanks
[19:24] <kane77> samue1, tar is one option
[19:24] <TWP-SirStaal> Unop__: is there a good site to read about some basic commands?
[19:24] <unop__> samue1, is the second partition empty?
[19:24] <samue1> yeah unop-
[19:24] <samue1> completely empty
[19:24] <samue1> and ready
[19:25] <adrock358> bastid_raZor sudo's not the prob.  check it. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62542/
[19:25] <Ssam`> whats the administration tool in ubunut called?
[19:25] <unop__> samue1, you can use dd then.  sudo dd if=/dev/sdXX of=/dev/sdXX bs=8192
[19:25] <Ssam`> the graphical administration tool
[19:25] <Wi9li4m> i've read something about cp -a for backup...not sure though
[19:26] <unop__> samue1, you'll need to specify the source and destination paritions correctly there
[19:26] <Nrj> Will there be any bcm43xx support in the 8.04?
[19:26] <c0ldfusion> cp -a (or maybe A) does an archive
[19:26] <samue1> and what is bs=8192 unop_
[19:26] <samue1> ?
[19:27] <unop__> samue1, blocksize . the number of blocks to copy at a time
[19:27] <ryrules1> Nrj: I also have this card and was wondering that too
[19:27] <donkey7186> i need help. im trying to hook up an extra monitor on my laptop and when i hooked it up the external was blue
[19:28] <xx0xx> unop__ plz help me with name servers
[19:28] <xx0xx> :((
[19:28] <ryrules1> probbly not right away I'm guessing
[19:28] <Nrj> ryrules1: Hehe, I'll be waiting for years now for the support. :/
[19:28] <c0ldfusion> x0x, what's wrong with your nameservers
[19:28] <gregcha117> my sound is busted and i need some help please i cannot figure out whats wrong
[19:28] <samue1> unop_ should I keep speed 8192?
[19:28] <expat> hello all
[19:28] <expat> help needed plz
[19:29] <x0x> c0ldfusion i cant create one...
[19:29] <samue1> unop_ should I keep speed 8192?
[19:29] <unop__> TWP-SirStaal, http://tldp.org/LDP/sag/html/sag.html http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/commands.htm http://www.oreillynet.com/linux/cmd/
[19:29]  * expat takes a number and waits in line
[19:29] <unop__> samue1, yep
[19:29] <samue1> ok
[19:29] <c0ldfusion> if you're looking to add a nameserver, try /etc/resolv.conf
[19:29] <samue1> thanks
[19:30] <unop__> x0x, are you also xx0xx ?
[19:30] <Ssam`> whats ubuntu's .deb installation manager called?
[19:30] <x0x> c0ldfusion well i mean dns
[19:30] <x0x> unop__ yes
[19:30] <unop__> Ssam`, apt/dpkg
[19:30] <c0ldfusion> x0x, dns ~ nameserver
[19:30] <genii> expat: Usually best to just state the problem and then see if anyone may know the way to resolve it
[19:30] <adamt> is there some good alternatives to the gnome-panel? i'm kinda annoyed with it.
[19:30] <unop__> x0x, what are you trying to do?
[19:30] <expat> thx genii :)
[19:30] <cami-chan> Hello everyone :)
[19:31] <expat> Having issues with gnome-panel after latest update on Hardy Heron
[19:31] <x0x> unop__ i am trying to add a domain to my server.
[19:31] <expat> it keeps crashing :(
[19:31] <Ssam`> unop__: is graphical installer right?
[19:31] <expat> anyone else have this issue? know of a work-around?
[19:31] <unop__> x0x, ok, and what have you done so far?
[19:31] <|Dede|> How can you unban an IP/host that Fail2Ban has banned?
[19:31] <bastid_raZor> adrock358; have you tried running the commands that suggests in windows? chkdsk /f ?
[19:31] <cami-chan> Can anyone help with the ability to write to my sda6 drive, when I installed Ubuntu 7,10 today I created the partition that I installed Ubuntu on and another partition formatted with EXT3
[19:32] <unop__> Ssam`, synaptic is the GUI frontend to apt
[19:32] <chazco> Hi... anyone know how to delete a horizontal line created by typing "---" in OO writer? I can do it on Windows, but not on Ubuntu
[19:32] <x0x> unop__ http://www.ubuntugeek.com/dns-server-setup-using-bind-in-ubuntu.html << THIS
[19:32] <genii> expat: Since you're on 8.04 may want to ask in #ubuntu+1
[19:32] <x0x> ergh
[19:32] <expat> okay
[19:32] <expat> thx
[19:32] <Exteris> cami-chan, sudo chmod -R 777 /media/[drive]
[19:32] <unop__> x0x, right, so whats the problem then?
[19:32] <cami-chan> Exteris: Thanks a lot :)
[19:33] <Ssam`> yea when u double click a .deb file then click install.....thats a synaptic?
[19:33] <x0x> unop__ i cant add domain ;s domain giving me error... like unknown dns or something
[19:33] <docmur> Okay so I was playing a rather old game for the last few days in Cedega and last night, and it worked smooth and fine.  Okay so today I just tired to load it up and it's legging horribly like to the point of no use to me.  I haven't changed any settings any clue on what could be happening
[19:33] <unop__> Exteris, cami-chan -- it's better to do.  sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /media/sdXX
[19:34] <cami-chan> unop_: Thanks but I did the other one :) Will remember though :)
[19:34] <Exteris> unop__, that's not friendly for multiple users
[19:34] <unop__> Exteris, so you would rather open it right up for the world to have complete access?
[19:34] <genii> Ssam`: No, that is usually gdebi which installs a deb file when you click on it. Synaptic is the package manager. It will go out and grab the deb file from an ubuntu repository and install it.
[19:35] <adrock358> bastid_raZor i can't get in windows
[19:35] <Exteris> unop__, depends on the goal, and of course users can create their own limited-acces folders
[19:35] <Ssam`> you mean gkdebconf?
[19:35] <unop__> x0x, ok, you can't be vague like that, it doesn't help me or you .. what command and errors exactly  .. use the pastebin to show us stuff if you have to
[19:36] <lordleemo> Ssam`: gdebi-gtk or gdebi package installer  gdebconf
[19:36] <Ssam`> ahh thanks man
[19:36] <x0x> unop__, ok
[19:36] <x0x> !pastebin
[19:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[19:36] <Ssam`> and whats the adminsitration toolds called...the one which has graphical users and group management
[19:36] <unop__> Exteris, it's _safer_ if the user owns it, and gives other users their own limited-access folders, but chmod 777 .. hmm, i wouldnt suggest that
[19:37] <poni> harlo
[19:37] <Nrj> is ndiswrapper better than madwifi?
[19:38] <Exteris> unop__, i mean, since the drive is empty ( he said he'd just created it), giving all users acces wont be much of a problem, but yeah, you got a point there
[19:38] <poni> uhm... I don't know if I could ask my question here, but I've got a problem with activating CompizFusion in 7.10, I lose my titlebars etc and only get em back when running metacity --replace. If I activate "Custom" in the Visual Effects tab, it puts itself back on Normal after closing. Window decorations is on in CCSM
[19:39] <michalski> hello, I was just editing my sshd_config file and was wondering what a few options were for---> useprivelegeseperation:(yes/no) ---> Strictmode:(yes/no) ---> challengeresponseauthentication:(Yes/No)
[19:39] <Scunizi> poni, you might ask in #ubuntu-effects.. they have compiz brain power there.
[19:39] <bastid_raZor> adrock358; i'm not sure what else you can do.. if Ubuntu is telling you to run a check on the disk from windows.. that sounds like the best course of action
[19:39] <Exteris> poni, perhaps you have a problem with emerald, try starting that one too
[19:39] <poni> Scunizi: Thank you :)
[19:39] <Scunizi> poni, np
[19:39] <unop__> michalski, read the sshd_config manpage, it describes all those directives
[19:39] <michalski> ok , thank you
[19:40] <bastid_raZor> poni; or #compiz-fusion
[19:40] <Scunizi> bastid_raZor, that ends up being the same channel I think..
[19:40] <bastid_raZor> Scunizi; ahh. did not know that.
[19:40] <linkinxp> guys hello what tool can i use for making Iso from Cd/dvds?
[19:40] <Scunizi> bastid_raZor, nice to keep the ubuntu name as a referance
[19:41] <michalski> unop__: how?
[19:41] <Scunizi> linkinxp, dvd videos use k9copy.. otherwise  k3b
[19:41] <pingu_> anyone else use thunderbird ?
[19:41] <unop__> michalski, man sshd_config ?
[19:42] <linkinxp> Scunizi,  data cd/dvds can i use k3b? im in gnome
[19:42] <stefg> !k3b
[19:42] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[19:42] <michalski> k
[19:42] <linkinxp> stefg,  thankius!
[19:42] <pingu_> because i need to know who to make my yahoo account accesible through thunderbird
[19:42] <Scunizi> linkinxp, sure.. it'll run fine.. if you want to stick with gnome you can right click the CD and say make iso..
[19:42] <donkey7186> i need some help with Kompozer. Is there a channel on mIRC specifically for that??????????
[19:43] <linkinxp> Scunizi,  thanks again ;)
[19:43] <Scunizi> linkinxp, np
[19:43] <HazyHawk> hi
[19:43] <HazyHawk> ich habe mal kurz einne hoffentlich leichte frage:D
[19:43] <HazyHawk> ich bin wohl intellektuell nich dazu in der lage:D
[19:43] <Scunizi> !de | HazyHawk
[19:43] <ubotu> HazyHawk: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[19:44] <HazyHawk> oh sry
[19:44] <HazyHawk> im sry !
[19:44] <Scunizi> np
[19:44] <Scunizi> HazyHawk, mein deutsch is schlect
[19:44] <linkinxp> !es linkinxp
[19:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about es linkinxp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:44] <pingu_> anyone know how to access a yahoo, gmail, or other such account with thunderbird im not having any luck with it
[19:44] <linkinxp> lol not spanish?
[19:45] <Scunizi> !es | linkinxp
[19:45] <ubotu> linkinxp: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[19:45] <linkinxp> lol
[19:45] <mariusst> hi a friend of mine is in ubuntu now and he wants to set up the grub boot manager so that he can choose between windows and ubuntu. Isnt there a preference thing for that in system->administration?
[19:45] <HazyHawk> np scunizi
[19:45] <linkinxp> Scunizi,  Bilingual :P
[19:45] <HazyHawk> :)
[19:45] <Khisanth> pingu_: for yahoo you need to have a Yahoo! Mail Plus account
[19:46] <c0ldfusion> mariusst, I usually change boot order by editing /boot/grub/menu.list
[19:46] <pingu_> Khisanth: ok i have yahoo how do you get a Yahoo! Mail Plus account have a normal one
[19:46] <Scunizi> pingu_, for gmail.. see the gmail help page for the correct ports.. some of the gnome & kde PIMs don't configure it correctly..
[19:46] <mariusst> he probably wants the menu on boot
[19:46] <Khisanth> pingu_: you have to pay Y! :)
[19:46] <pingu_> Scunizi: i have yahoo i was just throwing stuff out there
[19:46] <c0ldfusion> mariusst, the menu should display by default
[19:47] <^NighT^WalkeR^> anyone know how to install the default wifi driver on ubuntu?
[19:47] <Scunizi> pingu_, Yahoo plus is a paid account.
[19:47] <Khisanth> $19.99/year
[19:47] <pingu_> Khisanth: that is dumb!
[19:47] <linkinxp> indeed
[19:47] <linkinxp> gmail its better than yahoo
[19:47] <Scunizi> ^NighT^WalkeR^, the default driver is ... default.. it's already installed.
[19:47] <mariusst> he installed windows after ubuntu
[19:47] <komputes> Every time I log in, my NumLk is on, does anyone know how to reset the numlk to off after the login (it does not affect the login screen)
[19:47] <pingu_> Scunizi: do you have to pay for gmail
[19:47] <Scunizi> pingu_, no
[19:47] <mariusst> would it be enough to run grub?
[19:47] <^NighT^WalkeR^> Scunizi: well what if i fucked something up?
[19:48] <linkinxp> mariusst,  he need to edit the boot file im not sure where it is
[19:48] <pingu_> Scunizi: alright where do i sign up
[19:48] <michalski> unop__: didnt say much about ChallengeResponseAuthentication, what is it?
[19:48] <Scunizi> pingu_, gmail.com
[19:48] <mariusst> theres no automated way to do this?
[19:48] <pingu_> i HATE Yahoo
[19:48] <pingu_> Scunizi: thanks
[19:48] <linkinxp> mariusst,  i dk :(
[19:48] <c0ldfusion> mariusst, automated way to do what
[19:48] <linkinxp> big update today :D i like updates
[19:48] <Scunizi> ^NighT^WalkeR^, that's a different issue.... careful with the language .. this is a family channel.. lots of young ones log in for help as well as us old geizers
[19:48] <mariusst> make it look for windows and add it. The installer does this..
[19:49] <sandro__> \list
[19:49] <^NighT^WalkeR^> Scunizi: sorry about
[19:49] <x0x> unop__ http://pastebin.com/d244c43ca
[19:49] <c0ldfusion> mariusst, try #grub
[19:50] <Scunizi> ^NighT^WalkeR^, just a gentle reminder.. the ops will/could ban you
[19:50] <TheBills> hi
[19:50] <michalski> does anyone know what Challenge Response Authetication is in sshd_config?
[19:50] <^NighT^WalkeR^> Scunizi: it's ok... glad you told me
[19:51] <lan_> carlosp.vhotm
[19:51] <x0x> unop__ you there?
[19:51] <pokerfacepenguin> michalski:      ChallengeResponseAuthentication 	     Specifies whether challenge response authentication is allowed. 	     All authentication styles from login.conf(5) are supported.  The 	     default is ``yes''.
[19:52] <Scunizi> michalski, I'm guessing .but 2 things come to mind.. when trying to log on the system asks for a password/key or maybe it uses cascading port authentication.. that means you start connecting on one port once, then again on another(once) then the last.. the system see's you try and if you're trying in the right order and right ports it lets you in.
[19:52] <hari> join
[19:52] <c0ldfusion> x0x, are you trying to add a dns server to your system to resolve host names?
[19:52] <michalski> pokerfacepenguin: i knew that, I just dont know what it does
[19:52] <x0x> c0ldfusion yes
[19:53] <c0ldfusion> x0x, then add the server to /etc/resolv.conf
[19:53] <michalski> Scunizi: hmmm....
[19:53] <x0x> c0ldfusion well i am trying to add my domain name to my system.
[19:53] <Scunizi> michalski, things that make you go .. hmmmmmm :)
[19:54] <c0ldfusion> x0x, not sure but try man hostname
[19:55] <cder> whats the advantage of having a static ip address over dhcp?
[19:55] <TheBills> use ubuntu for servers?
[19:55] <Scunizi> cder, if you are running a server it's easier to always locate it.
[19:56] <cder> Scunizi; what if its say inside a vizulization like vmware
[19:56] <cder> the os
[19:57] <Rafael> hi
[19:57] <Jester009> I am having issues with my Linksys WUSB54G wireless USB adapter. The computer can see wirless networks but it will not connect to mine.
[19:57] <rwycuff> x0x:are you trying to create DNS on your computer or add existing one to it
[19:57] <Scunizi> cder, same.. also depends on how you've setup vmware.. as bridged or "shared" from the host machine.. my win2kpro vm has it's own IP but done via dhcp from my router..
[19:57] <joel> rwycuff: what kind of security do you have on it?
[19:57] <joel> WEP, WPA or none?
[19:58] <Rafael> can you tell me if it is posible to place 4 monitors doing different task on ubuntu and what version will do a better job on this?
[19:58] <Rafael> how hard is it?
[19:58] <joel> Rafael: what kind of graphics card?
[19:58] <rwycuff> joel:wrong person to ask that wasnt me
[19:58] <cder> Scuizi mine is NAT because i have a cable moden
[19:58] <Rafael> i could buy any if necesary
[19:58] <joel> get an nvidia card, then get Hardy (or Gutsy for a bit more stability) do sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[19:58] <joel> fairly easy from there
[19:59] <Jester009> I am having issues with my Linksys WUSB54G wireless USB adapter. The computer can see wirless networks but it will not connect to mine.
[19:59] <Scunizi> cder.. I have a cable modem too. but also a router between it and my machines..
[19:59] <joel> Jester: type of security on your network?
[19:59] <Rafael> will ubuntu support 4 video card? or i only need one?
[19:59] <Jester009> only mac address filter
[19:59] <Kurko> no passwords?
[19:59] <joel> you should put some time into looking at them, mine can support them I believe (someone yesterday got 3 up with no problem)
[19:59] <joel> Jester: your network isn't encrypted at all?
[20:00] <Jester009> joel: nope
[20:00] <cder> Scunizi ok thats good i do not have a router but can set a static ip within vmware on ubuntu guest host is xp
[20:00] <Scunizi> Rafael, it can be done.. typically needing 2 video cards each supporting 2 monitors.. Ubuntu now uses xrandr..you might need to hand configure xorg.conf.. if you're new at this that means lots of reading and experimentation.
[20:00] <joel> hmm that's interesting because usually there isn't a problem with unencrypted
[20:00] <fluteflute> Jester009: you can try this script http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=516649 (serialmonkey is probably better but harder)
[20:00] <joel> Scunizi: nvidia-settings is fairly automated, I used to use it a bit
[20:00] <Scunizi> cder, you're fine if running dhcp
[20:00] <Scunizi> joel.. but for 4 monitors and 2 vid cards.?
[20:00] <gnomp> miten saan openofficessa hyperlinkityksen pois teksistä?
[20:01] <joel> Scunizi: true ;) never done that but maybe?
[20:01] <Jester009> fluteflute: the wirless adapter works im just not able to connect to my network.
[20:01] <Kurko> olisko #ubuntu-fi mitään?
[20:01] <joel> I see anything more than two monitors as a waste so I can't give much detail on it
[20:01] <TheBills> ndiswrapper
[20:01] <joel> Jester: what are you using native linux drivers?
[20:01] <fluteflute> Jester009: yes, that is a common problem i believe - that script should work
[20:02] <cder> Scunizi : static inside ubuntu works also
[20:02] <gnomp> whoops sry wrong channel
[20:02] <Scunizi> joel, what I'd like to do is take a large tv/monitor (42") and split the screen so it acts like 2 monitors.
[20:02] <Jester009> fluteflute: ill try it
[20:02] <meglaw> why can nobody awnser me. :(
[20:02] <Rafael> and which version of ubuntu will do a better job on this?
[20:02] <Scunizi> cder, sure.. you just have to manually enter the ip and dns info.
[20:02] <joel> Scunizi: that would be interesting, I just have my laptop and have a 22" hd monitor connected to it
[20:02] <joel> works perfectly for me
[20:02] <Scunizi> Rafael, probably both gnome and kde for support
[20:03] <joel> I know some people go all out with monitors but I just see it as wasteful (personal taste I suppose)
[20:03] <Rafael> this is kind of a school project thats what i need it
[20:03] <Scunizi> joel, once you have 2 monitors up and running, and you're using the machine for production.. it's hard to go back to one.
[20:03] <joel> I agree, 2I can understand, 3+ seems a bit too much
[20:04] <Jester009> fluteflute: whats the difference between the fesity and gutsy?
[20:04] <joel> my boss uses 3, just seems wasteful
[20:04] <cder> Scunizi i wonder how i would go about shh into ubuntu on vmware?
[20:04] <joel> it's "handy" sometimes but that doesn't outweigh the negatives for me (personally)
[20:04] <Scunizi> joel, really just depends on what there're used for.. stock tracking on one.. wp on another .. game on third..:)
[20:04] <kantlivelon1> anyone know why when i start X my mouse event disappears?
[20:04] <joel> yeah like I said, handy but wasteful
[20:04] <Scunizi> cder, from where.. the windows side?
[20:05] <fluteflute> Jester009: its the version of ubuntu you are running. you can find out which you are running by going System->About Ubuntu
[20:05] <Jester009> ah ok thanks
[20:05] <joel> kant: what version of Ubuntu, did this happen since the beginning?
[20:05] <Rafael> but can you make them work as if they where different computers?
[20:05] <Scunizi> Rafael, yes you can have different things on each one..
[20:06] <kantlivelon1> joel: yeah.. 7.10
[20:06] <joel> does it happen with running live ?
[20:06] <kantlivelon1> joel: i can cat it (event3) but once i start X it disappears
[20:06] <kantlivelon1> joel: yeah
[20:06] <TheBills> you only need one OS
[20:06] <cder> Scunizi yes from windows xp
[20:07] <joel> hmm that's in interesting problem.....have you tried the forums (I've never seen or heard about this kind of an issue
[20:07] <kantlivelon1> joel: cant find nething... it works fine in fedora
[20:07] <Joray> Hello, I am trying to get my wireless card to work... I am running ubuntu 7.10 on a Inspiron 710m
[20:07] <TheBills> get a netgear wg111v2
[20:08] <pingu_> anyone know how to delete a yahoo account
[20:08] <joel> Joray: what kind of wireless card?
[20:08] <TheBills> netgear wg111v2
[20:08] <TheBills> usb
[20:08] <joel> pingu_: why not just ignore it and never look back ;)
[20:08] <Scunizi> cder, brb
[20:08] <Joray> not sure joel
[20:08] <cder> Silhouet: were you in vmware some days ago
[20:09] <pingu_> joel: ya i thought about that...
[20:09] <cder> Scunizi: brb?
[20:09] <m3dvt> hi all
[20:09] <joel> anyone having problems with the Firefox beta release?
[20:09] <m3dvt> yes
[20:09] <m3dvt> it dont work lol
[20:09] <Redian> Hey, I've got a friend who tried to install ubuntu and the install fails at 55%. She gets some weird error message, this is the second CD I gave her, and now when she turns on her computer she just gets a screen with a blinking white cursor after the BIOS loads. Any idea what could be the problem or how to fix it? She can't do anything with her computer right now
[20:09] <joel> all right, thought it might just be me, the windows decorations go away sometimes, and it causes my screen to flicker once an awhile
[20:10] <Scunizi> cder .. be right back
[20:10] <joel> Redian: try alternative install
[20:10] <cder> Scunizi; ok
[20:10] <Redian> joel: meaning...?
[20:10] <joel> there is an Ubuntu alternative cd
[20:10] <Joray> how do I find out what kind of wireless card I have?
[20:10] <TheBills> lsusb
[20:10] <joel> Joray: google your computer and type "specs" or something like that
[20:10] <joel> or do that ;)
[20:11] <m3dvt> any one using mint?
[20:11] <Scunizi> cder, ok.. do you want to do this ssh as an experiment or do you just want access to files for transfer back and forth?
[20:11] <Redian> joel: I can't get that CD to her until tomorrow...things got messed up last night so I burnt her another, and I don't wanna make her wait until tomorrow, is there anything else that we could try?
[20:11] <Scunizi> cder, or is this to get to it from outside you house from another machine.
[20:12] <joel> with that kind of an issue...unlikely
[20:12] <m3dvt> you could take the disk round and install tonight lol
[20:12] <turdega> !mint
[20:12] <ubotu> The following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes, please consult their websites for more information: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (support in #linuxmint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), Ubuntu Ultimate
[20:13] <joel> brb, firefox is acting up and I need to log out to get it to work again
[20:13] <cder> Scunizi: both
[20:14] <Soleone> can anyone tell me where i can install a new font i've downloaded?
[20:15] <m3dvt_> can you use ham software in ubuntu ?
[20:15] <StevenX> hello all. I would like to know the feasability of running MS Office 2008 in Ubuntu.
[20:15] <Redian> The thing that struck me as odd is that last nights CD crashed at 22%, and todays crashes as 55%. Anything particular about that, or just made 2 bad CDs?
[20:15] <Scunizi> cder, well from the windows side to the ubuntu side you can just setup shared directories and get to them with "Network Manager".. to ssh from a windows box to ubuntu, the windows box has to use a program called Putty.. there's lots of tutorials out there as well as on ubuntuforums.org.. I couldn't really give you a blow by blow how to..
[20:15] <Redian> StevenX: Have you tried using Wine-doors?
[20:15] <fluteflute> Soleone: place it in the folder: /home/usernamehere/.fonts/
[20:15] <osimoveit> is it possible to log into the server version of ubuntu using xming, or do I need a windowmanager installed to do that?
[20:16]  * nickrud wonders why people quit one minute after asking a question
[20:16] <x0x> http://pastebin.com/d244c43ca << does it look ok to you guys?
[20:16] <Redian> nickrud: to annoy you of course.
[20:16]  * Scunizi thinks it's because of a bad internet connection..
[20:16] <genii> osimoveit: You need some window manager backend available before something like xming or vnc will be able to connect to a remote X server
[20:16] <Scunizi> osimoveit, what is xming?
[20:17] <cder> Scunizi; yes i know putty
[20:17]  * nickrud thinks Scunizi is a very nice person ;[
[20:17] <m3dvt_> can you use ham radio software in ubuntu ? please ?
[20:17] <StevenX> Redian: No. I will look into it. Any particular link you have in mind?
[20:17] <osimoveit> xming runs on windows and lets me use gui linux
[20:17] <osimoveit> is ubuntu more lightweight than kubuntu?
[20:17] <Scunizi> m3dvt_, depends on the software .. there's lots of stuff listed in synaptic package manager for logging, satellite tracking etc..
[20:17] <Redian> StevenX: http://www.wine-doors.org/wordpress/ is still in beta, but some people have success with it
[20:17] <genii> Scunizi: Xming is a small X server for windows which allows you to run X applications on it from a remote machine
[20:18] <Redian> StevenX: I really messed up a bunch of my wine files to start out with, so I haven't had much luck XD
[20:18] <nickwebcoukok> quickie - i have an ipod that i couldnt write to when it automounted, so I changed the automount options (by right clicking it on the desktop), and now i cant get it to automount at all. how can i reset the options i set?
[20:18] <m3dvt_> i need to run psk sstv and digital sstv does this help and fax ?
[20:18] <osimoveit> so I need ubuntu or kubuntu to do that?
[20:18] <StevenX> Redian: hehe, sorry to hear that. thanks for the info.
[20:19] <joel> ok I'm officially pissed about my fstab, it took a week but I'm there
[20:19] <Scunizi> genii, osimoveit cool.. so osimoveit you gotta have an x environment on the server to do that, it sounds like.
[20:19] <m3dvt_> by the way me sister inlaw had a baby boy tonight at 6.14 me happy
[20:19] <joel> congrats ;)
[20:19] <Scunizi> osimoveit, or xubuntu.. xfce4.. there's probably another way.. cause x programs don't need gnome, kde, xfce.. I believe..
[20:19] <aguitel> how i know my gdm version?
[20:19] <erUSUL> m3dvt_: congrats XD
[20:19] <Redian> joel: Do you think that it stopped at 22% last night and 55% tonight might provide some clues?
[20:19] <m3dvt_> thanks
[20:19] <Redian> m3dvt_: congratz!
[20:20] <joel> Redian: sounds like you got unlucky and have two bad discs
[20:20] <joel> can she/he run live distro from it?
[20:20] <StevenX> Redian: will CodeWeavers do the trick?
[20:20] <Redian> Yeah, no probs there
[20:20] <cder> Scunizi: i was able to get xen working inside vmware wow
[20:20] <joel> Redian: have her/him put it in and run a disc check from the menu
[20:20] <m3dvt_> thanks redian and erusul
[20:20] <Scunizi> cder, that's different
[20:20] <osimoveit> I have an old laptop that will use it with only 256MB. What is the lightest version: ubuntu or kubuntu?
[20:20] <joel> xubuntu
[20:21] <Scunizi> Redian, make sure you burn at a slow speed
[20:21] <cder> Scunizi: diffrent
[20:21] <Redian> I dropped it to 14X
[20:21] <Scunizi> osimoveit, xubuntu
[20:21] <samue1> unop__, now I copied my dd (worked well, thqnk you). now, how can I activate this version of linux?
[20:21] <aguitel> osimoveit: xubuntu
[20:21] <m3dvt_> is there a way to run ubuntu on a dossier lt laptop ?
[20:21] <Scunizi> Redian, I burn at 4x
[20:21] <m3dvt_> it wont go on
[20:21] <Redian> StevenX: It should, I haven't purchased any software for that purpose though
[20:21] <unop__> samue1, activate?
[20:22] <Scunizi> m3dvt, what is a dossier lt laptop?
[20:22] <joel> you guys all see the results from the hackathon challenge (Mac Leopard, Vista, Gutsy)?
[20:22] <m3dvt_> lol
[20:22] <samue1> yeah, I copied a version of linux, now I have two time linux
[20:22] <m3dvt_>  a dossier lt laptop lol
[20:22] <samue1> how to actiavte the linux on the second HDD?
[20:22] <Redian> joel: Definitely didn't see the results, what were they
[20:22] <Scunizi> m3dvt, xubuntu  it's light weight.
[20:22] <m3dvt_> ok
[20:22] <Redian> joel: and also, wheres the disc check you're talking about?
[20:22] <joel> once the vulnerabilities were found: mac got hacked in 2 minutes, Vista a few hours, Gutsy....time expired with 0 progress
[20:22] <unop__> samue1, was your root filesystem (/) on that device?
[20:23] <Scunizi> m3dvt_, never heard of dossier.. is that a brand name.? Europe?
[20:23] <Redian> ...Wow it is impossible to follow conversations in a room with 1310 people..
[20:23] <joel> Redian: there is an option in the live cd that says "check disc integrity" or something like that
[20:23] <Redian> joel: I can't wait to tell everyone who's doubted linux about that.
[20:23] <genii> osimoveit: for *buntu lightest stock dist is xubuntu. But if all you want is some basic window manager just so you can install X apps which will be run remotely on Xming, you only need some simplistic thing like aewm or so and not any metapackage
[20:23] <Scunizi> Redian, you have to use nicks so they highlight.
[20:23] <m3dvt_> its just a dossier i got it from a friend dossier make it thats all i know
[20:23] <samue1> unop_ : yes, my root filesystem was on the partition I copied
[20:24] <Redian> Scunizi: I do, but there's so much general conversation also
[20:24] <anteaya> I think i made a syntax error while adding a repo to synaptic.  It has closed and won't let me back in to edit the information.  Where is the file that I can edit with the terminal?
[20:24] <joel> here is the article (or one of many) http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com/2008/03/ubuntu-beats-osx-and-vista-in-pwn-2-own.html
[20:24] <joel> ant: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:24] <Scunizi> Redian, ya can't read it all without going buggy.
[20:24] <unop__> samue1, what do you intend to do with the original disk? leave it in place?
[20:24] <m3dvt_> ok thanks for help all bye for now
[20:25] <joel> take it easy
[20:25] <anteaya> joel: thank you
[20:25] <Scunizi> m3dvt_, the company name is Viglen.. looks like it comes out of Brittan
[20:25] <StevenX> Redian: Is wine-doors different from wine?
[20:25] <x0x> unop__ http://pastebin.com/d244c43ca
[20:25] <samue1> unop_: my first HDD will die soon... I will remove it then
[20:26] <joel> anyone know anything about fstab...I'm getting such an annoying problem (several)
[20:26] <chri3> Just installed GG on a laptop - getting no sound.  Can anyone help?
[20:26] <joel> chri3: what laptop?
[20:26] <Redian> StevenX: Wine-doors is a wine manager, it has some things that make wine a little easier to use.
[20:26] <linkinxp> guys in blender when i open it i can see some parts of my desktop like the watch it flickers
[20:26] <chri3> joel: an acer something-or-other
[20:26] <Scunizi> m3dvt_,so you're in northants?
[20:26] <joel> I need the exact model, not acer something or other ;)
[20:27] <unop_> x0x, give me two minutes..
[20:27] <Scunizi> linkinxp, turn off compiz and see what happens..
[20:27] <x0x> unop_ ok sure
[20:27] <chri3> joel: sorry - aspire 7003wsmi
[20:27] <Redian> joel: You think there's anyway she could at least repair her boot? Cuz she can't get into anything aside from through the boot menu, but it must've messed up with the partitions or something...
[20:28] <lewench> Hello all
[20:28] <linkinxp> Scunizi,  how?
[20:28] <Johnson__> anyone here have video ipod get video onto it in linux, ive spent all day trying to install thinliquidfilm just for it to tell me it cant find qt, which i just installed
[20:28] <unop_> samue1, you will need to do two things offline (from a live CD or such) .. edit the /etc/fstab to reflect the change and setup grub so that the new device is the boot partition
[20:28] <Scunizi> linkinxp, system/preferances/appearance/effects... set to none
[20:29] <timo1teo> when i switch to Ubuntu will everything still work on my laptop such as graphics card, wifi, etc....or will i have to install drivers for everything
[20:29] <StevenX> did wine-doors irc channel move?
[20:29] <joel> Redian: without another cd I really think it would be almost impossible (probably possible but a lot of work)
[20:29] <Scunizi> Redian, if the boot menu is screwed up .. that's Grub.. check out http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm for an easy fix
[20:29] <joel> chri3: try the alsa drivers, look up "alsa how to"
[20:29] <lewench> I'm getting an issue when trying to play an .avi with mplayer/vlc/movie player. When I start the movie I hear the sound, but the video is blinking and colordepth is low. I have installed the codecs from the rep. and read some tuts, this is my last option
[20:29] <sivel27> hello all
[20:30] <Annirak> So I had a power outage, and now my sound doesn't work.  It is possible that it stopped working when I did updates on Hardy.  My audio device shows up in lspci.  snd is loaded.  Nothing is muted, and all volumes are at 75%.  Where do I go from here?
[20:30] <samue1> unop_, ok, so I have to wait my HDD dies, and then to do that with Ubuntu CD
[20:30] <sivel27> at least you have sound... ive got no sound on my laptop speakers/ or usb headseat..lol
[20:30] <unop_> samue1, no, you can do that right now and leave the original disk redundant
[20:30] <joel> sivel: try alsa (look up alsa how to)
[20:30] <Annirak> sivel27: me too.
[20:30] <chri3> joel: look up - where?
[20:30] <joel> !ALSA
[20:30] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[20:30] <sivel27> it pissing me off, as im trying to "let go" of windows
[20:31] <linkinxp> Scunizi,  yes that was it
[20:31] <timo1teo> when i switch to Ubuntu will everything still work on my laptop such as graphics card, wifi, etc....or will i have to install drivers for everything
[20:31] <joel> google it....."Ubuntu ALSA how to" or something along those lines
[20:31] <joel> timo: depends on your computer
[20:31] <timo1teo> hm
[20:31] <joel> most things work out of box, wireless can be tough
[20:31] <Scunizi> linkinxp, blender I have a hard time with.. cool but no time to learn the UI
[20:31] <ompaul> !audio | sivel27 this is how it gets fixed - the builders of audio put this stuff together
[20:31] <ubotu> sivel27 this is how it gets fixed - the builders of audio put this stuff together: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[20:31] <chri3> joel: OK - thanks.
[20:31] <joel> video cards....sometimes an issue
[20:32] <generalsnus> Ok, ive managed to get our edubuntu clients authenticate against our w2k3 server(Joined domain).  But is it possible to have roaming profiles or somthing similar?  lot of users are going to use the klients and we want a roaming profile.. or atlest a folder where they can save in, we would also need to deny them saving anything on the client then
[20:32] <lewench> When trying to play an AVI i can hear the file but the video is blinking and color depth is low, anyone might have the issue to this?
[20:32] <gcleric> exit
[20:33] <joel> lewench: problem is in vlc also?
[20:33] <samue1> unop_: thank you very much for your time. I will try that. I wish you a nice day.
[20:33] <agentniles> guess that if other avi's work it's the file thats bad..
[20:33] <unop_> x0x, where are you getting this error? can you _please_ include the command you issued just before you got this message?
[20:33] <lewench> joel, problem is with mplayer, vlc, Movie player... Basically all of them
[20:33] <siraj> can any one help me please how to play mpg or asf file format
[20:33] <dryrot> how do i make it so when i hibernate... my network interfaces are still there when i come back from hibernation ?
[20:34] <arcticpenguin380> if something supports the 2.4Kernel will it work with the 2.6Kernel?
[20:34] <lewench> joel, Please disregard its now working on mplayer. Don't know what I did but its working now. Thanks though.
[20:34] <x0x> unop_ i am getting error when i add ns1.amaderbanglachat.com to my domain amaderbanglachat.com.
[20:34] <joel> lol sure thing
[20:34] <linkinxp> Scunizi,  mm i prefer 3d max tough
[20:34] <Redian> Scunizi: It sounds like she's got the Disk IO Error? She just gets a black screen with a flashing white cursor...but there aren't directions for fixing it?
[20:34] <unop_> generalsnus, is this a single roaming (mandatory) profile to be shared amongst many users?
[20:34] <Redian> Scunizi: http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm#Disk_IO_error_
[20:35] <Enul> can someone tell me if ubuntu 7.10 will support firewire
[20:35] <ulises> i download ubuntu 8 beta and ubuntu dont recognize my wireless
[20:35] <ulises> waht can i do
[20:35] <joel> Enul: yes
[20:35] <Scunizi> linkinxp, change it back when done.. blender doesn't play well with compiz
[20:35] <Enul> thanks joel
[20:35] <unop_> x0x, what is the ip address of the machine running bind?
[20:35] <linkinxp> Scunizi,  nop lol
[20:36] <x0x> unop_ 5 of them ;s
[20:36] <Scunizi> Redian, could be just the video driver.. if she can ctrl+alt+F2 and get a user name password prompt (text based) then its probably that.
[20:36] <x0x> unop_ 67.159.16.35, 67.159.16.36, 67.159.16.37, 67.159.16.38
[20:37] <legend2440> ulises: wrong channel. #ubuntu+1 is fpr 8.04 help
[20:37] <siraj> i just downloaded from limewire a clip it says mpg does not play in vlc totem xine kaffeine gnome amarok
[20:37] <ulises> ok thank you
[20:37] <generalsnus> unop_: it really dosent matter. as long as they have their own folder to save stuff in.. and not fill up the client etc..and dosent change anything on the client
[20:37] <Redian> Scunizi: I don't think that would work, because it goes straight from BIOS to that screen, no grub screen in between...I can't imagine it being a graphics error...
[20:37] <Hammer89> anyone have any ideas why locking my screen is locking up my computer? last major changes I made was to reinstall ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-minimal... I have screensavers disabled
[20:38] <gaucho> Hi! I'm looking for a website for reading news and tricks, only for medium or advanced computer's users (nothing like: how to install programs using apt-get) and free of policy, only technical reading.. Anyone know one?
[20:38] <siraj> can any one tell me how to get extension of asf
[20:38] <hikejinx> !restricted | siraj
[20:38] <Redian> AHA! Disc integrity? errors found in two files...
[20:38] <ubotu> siraj: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[20:39] <happyfeet> server irc.r3blog.nl
[20:39] <Scunizi> Redian, ah ok.. I missed that point.. dead drive?.. bad ram?... does she have windows on this machine too? does it work.. or is Ubuntu a full install.
[20:39] <unop_> x0x, ok, but when i lookup your dns info from my machine, i get 72.20.18.33 as the ip address for your domain .. have you got authorization from your domain reseller/isp to host the DNS server yourself?
[20:39] <Redian> Scunizi: windows on the machine also
[20:39] <Scunizi> Redian, and it works?
[20:39] <jaffarkelshac> is it possible to have an application run in the host pc via ssh? i know you can on the client by forwarding X
[20:39] <Redian> no
[20:39] <x0x> unop_ no.
[20:39] <x0x> how do i do it?
[20:39] <siraj> ok ubotu thanks i will go right now thanks
[20:40] <Scunizi> Redian, did it just stop working after trying to install ubuntu?
[20:40] <Redian> Scunizi: she can't boot anything, when she presses for boot options on BIOS screen and chooses the hard drive she just gets the black screen.
[20:40] <Odd-rationale> !thanks | siraj
[20:40] <ubotu> siraj: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[20:40] <Redian> Scunizi: Yeah, its the Ubuntu install that killed it. It sounds like the MBR got really messed up
[20:40] <Piffer> what does this mean?   /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lpopt ?  ...googling...
[20:40] <ubuntu> hola
[20:40] <ubuntu> alguien que hable español
[20:40] <unop_> generalsnus, it's quite simple then .. all you need to do is mount the samba share (on the domain controller) on /home on each of the machines
[20:41] <Scunizi> Redian, she might need to reinstall ubuntu with a cd that is known to work..
[20:41] <ubuntu> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[20:41] <sivel27> is there a command to "downgrade" back to 7.10?
[20:41] <ubuntu> Soy daniel desde uruguay
[20:41] <Redian> Scunizi: I've given out sooo many XD
[20:41] <Odd-rationale> sivel27: no there isn't...
[20:41] <genii> !es | ubuntu
[20:41] <jaffarkelshac> so far, i have not come across downgrading sivel27
[20:41] <ubotu> ubuntu: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[20:41] <Scunizi> sivel27, if you created a seperate /home partition  just reinstall..
[20:42] <unop_> x0x, right, you need to do that first .. they will then unlock your domain and point the nameserver addresses to one of the IP addresses you give them, then it should all be quite simple
[20:42] <gaucho> sivel27, oh no! You did it too! I installed 8.01 on my work machine and got bad things too..
[20:43] <generalsnus> unop_:  so.. basicly share their profiles and ..?
[20:44] <x0x> unop_ i did.
[20:44]  * genii ponders 8.01
[20:45] <gaucho> Odd-rationale, Why you talk about you don't know? Of course there is a solution to downgrade ubuntu!
[20:45] <cder> Scunizi: how does the NAT ip address which is 192.168.198.1  relate to the gateway in ubuntu which is 192.168.198.2
[20:45] <Odd-rationale> gaucho: there is a way. but not "one command" like to upgrade...
[20:46] <danand> gaucho - not officially .... but probably doable yes
[20:46] <gaucho> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DowngradeHowto
[20:46] <unop_> generalsnus, the way it works is .. you create a shared folder on a domain controller or such - call it \\example.com\users .. then you mount that on /home .. mount -t smbfs <options> //example.com/users ... when a user first logs on, their home directory will be created (on the server), on subsequent logins, their home directories will be available from any machine, anywhere
[20:46] <danand> then again :)
[20:46] <gaucho> Odd-rationale, Do you thing your answer helped that guy?
[20:46] <BenMilbo> Hello
[20:46] <Annirak> How do I determine which update is requiring a reboot before I reboot?
[20:46] <unop_> generalsnus, mount -t smbfs <options> //example.com/users /home # my bad
[20:47] <gaucho> You are right! There's not a command, but I can do it with three!
[20:47] <^NighT^WalkeR^> anyone here experience with ndisgtk (ndis gui)
[20:47] <Scunizi> cder, the NAT address is your router? 192.168.xxx.x is an address that is used inside LANs and usually assigned by your router using dhcp..
[20:47] <hikejinx> gaucho: if you read, it says you will probably end up in a catastrophic mess. Better to backup in advance and then just reinstall.
[20:47] <unop_> x0x, so how long did the reseller say it would take for DNS to reflect the change?
[20:48] <gaucho> hikejinx, I did it.. no problems..
[20:48] <Odd-rationale> gaucho: I don't want to argue, but I don;t want to be responsible if the procedure messes up his/hers system. If you would like to help, I'm all for that!
[20:48] <unop_> cder, both those addresses are related by the fact that they exist on the same IP network
[20:48] <hikejinx> gaucho: it just sounds tricky and may depend on what you've installed. if you install apps dependent on the upgrade, you WILL be left in a bind with useless/broken packages.
[20:48] <BenMilbo> Ok so if anybody here can help me, i would greaty appreciate it!  I'm at the manual boot window for Ubuntu and i set up several partitions, the old one was win XP and hte other is ubuntu.... but the only other OS that comes up in "Other Operating systems:" is "Windows vista/Longhorn" and when i select it, it boots windows for half a second and goees back to the Boot Menu!
[20:48] <generalsnus> unop_ damn nice :D     just 1 thing tho..  "mount -t smbfs <options> //myserver.int/users /home"   where does that line go..in some config file?
[20:49] <Odd-rationale> gaucho: personally, the way I downgrade is reinstalll. ;)
[20:49] <BenMilbo> I can't figure out how to boot back into Win XP
[20:49] <unop_> generalsnus, that's a command you can use in a script, although it's best if you get that as an entry in /etc/fstab (needs a little modification) .. see !fstab
[20:50] <cder> Scunizi: so if i putty to ubuntu from xp then i use the static ip address
[20:50] <BenMilbo> Anybody here experienced with switching between Operating Systems?  I'm stuck and I can't get back into XP
[20:50] <arcticpenguin380> will i notice a difference in speed going quad core from dualcore?
[20:50] <gaucho> Odd-rationale, yes.. I understand your point of view. I just saw that because every time I ask for something, people answer another question I don't made. Do, If I ask for a command (of way to make) a downgrade, people answer that this is not a good solution. But this was not the question!
[20:51] <Scunizi> cder, if you've assigned one to ubuntu yes.. otherwise use the one assigned by dhcp
[20:51] <GlenQuagmire> BenMilbo: you are in grub now ?
[20:51] <unop_> cder, if you have samba installed, you can also use the name of the ubuntu machine
[20:51] <BenMilbo> Sorry Glen, I'm completely new to this .. what's "grub"?
[20:51] <generalsnus> unop_ thanks a lot, ill try this now
[20:51] <generalsnus> !fstab
[20:51] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[20:51] <flea> ikonia are you back yet lol ?
[20:51] <Odd-rationale> gaucho: ok. i got you.
[20:52] <GlenQuagmire> BenMilbo: no prob :) do you have a list with items you can boot ? like ubuntu / windows etc ?
[20:53] <GlenQuagmire> !grub
[20:53] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[20:54] <BenMilbo> Yes I see several options.. "Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.20-15-generic", "Ubuntu, kernel (recovery mode)","Ubuntuu, memtest86+" , and under Other operating systems: "Windows Vista/Longhorn(loader)"
[20:54] <BenMilbo> but my previous OS was Windows XP and not Vista!  i try selecting Vista and it begins to boot but restarts back in Ubuntu
[20:55] <joel> just curious, why would you upgrade from xp to vista?
[20:55] <GlenQuagmire> BenMilbo: ok. when you select windows vista (but you have xp?) and type "e", what do you see ?
[20:55] <flea> BenMilbo: it is only a label, not very indicative of what the actual OS is
[20:55] <joel> XP is 10X better than Vista
[20:55] <GlenQuagmire> xp is not vista ;) its both crap.
[20:55] <joel> Xp is still better
[20:55] <BenMilbo> here's what it says: "root (hd0,1)", "savedefault", "makeactive", "chainloader +1"
[20:55] <joel> Vista is just smelly crap
[20:55] <flea> .... back on track
[20:55] <joel> lol
[20:55] <albuntu> joel ubuntu is 1 million times better than xp and vista putted together
[20:56] <albuntu> :P
[20:56] <joel> that can be debated for a long time ;)
[20:56] <joel> but I use Ubuntu 99.9% of the time so I guess my bet is on Ubuntu
[20:57] <pepe_> Hola alguien de Chile
[20:57] <unop_> !es | pepe_
[20:57] <ubotu> pepe_: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[20:57] <BenMilbo> My original intention was to set up my PC so that whenever I restart, I could select which OS to boot up
[20:57] <BenMilbo> between Win XP and Ubuntu
[20:58] <genii> pepe_: No hay canal específico para Chile. El canal más cercano estará para España, según lo indicado.
[20:58] <flea> BenMilbo: are you in linux now?
[20:58] <pepe_> ¿Speaking Spanish? Por Favor
[20:58] <Redian> Scunizi: You think by changing the partitions she might be able to achieve functionality?
[20:58] <joel> genii: si creo que es verdad
[20:58] <Boohbah> !es
[20:58] <ubotu> Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[20:58] <Cyntrox> How can I find a list of processes currently running?
[20:58] <genii> unop_: He was asking previously about a Chile specific channel, of which there is none
[20:58] <BenMilbo> I am at the Linux boot screen
[20:58] <flea> BenMilbo: being familiar with your drives/partitions is a great place to start
[20:59] <GlenQuagmire> BenMilbo: you first had an installation of XP, then you did installation of ubuntu right ? on 1 harddisk ?
[20:59] <flea> Cyntrox: ps aux
[20:59] <Cyntrox> flea: thanks
[20:59] <Scunizi> Redian, not necessarily.  It sounds like it just wasn't installed correctly.. she should have a GRUB menu that pops up on boot. right after bios.. that's why I suggested the previous link.. a reinstall may fix it all.
[20:59] <ikonia> flea: I am back yes, I'm just setting up for some tests
[20:59] <unop_> genii, aye, but i figured the chilean people congregate in the spanish channel .. so i hoped to redirect him there to find company
[20:59] <flea> Cyntrox: man ps for more options, np
[20:59] <BenMilbo> I followed a guide I found online... I did start with XP but when I installed ubuntu, I manually created another partition using the LiveCD
[21:00] <joel> and the install had no errors?
[21:00] <flea> ikonia: np just worried that either time had slowed down on me or that u didnt make it home lol
[21:00] <BenMilbo> There were no errors during installation
[21:00] <genii> unop_: I basically told hi there is no specific channel for his country and to use the spanish one instead
[21:00] <ikonia> flea: nah, just slow drive, and sorting a few things out before I sit down to compute
[21:00] <joel> yeah try reinstall of Grub
[21:00] <flea> ikonia: you grabbed a 6-pack didnt u? lol
[21:00] <Guillem_> My sister has the following problem: she has a wireless router (encripted with password) but a neighbour of her has an open wireless router, and with her feisty setup, network manager always chooses the open wireless; so she has to remind to change the network. Is there any way to ban a certain network in network-manager? or to give precedence a given network?
[21:00] <unop_> genii, i saw
[21:01] <joel> when she chooses her own and reboots it changes back to the open? that's a bit strange, mine goes to the last one I connected to
[21:01] <joel> what version of Ubuntu?
[21:01] <Guillem_> joel, the previous one
[21:02] <Guillem_> joel, the behaviour is as you say, Ubuntu is feisty
[21:02] <joel> previous one like Feisty? or previous one Gutsy?
[21:02] <BenMilbo> So reinstalling Grub might allow me to boot in back up in XP?
[21:02] <joel> oh okay
[21:02] <Scunizi> !who | joel
[21:02] <ubotu> joel: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[21:02] <joel> try upgrading to Gutsy ?
[21:02] <Guillem_> joel, Hardy is not yet out ha ha
[21:02] <RoAkSoAx>   
[21:02] <flea> BenMilbo: if your xp partition is untouched (and most likely its fine) YES
[21:02] <magnetron> Guillem_: ubuntu 7.10 is out yet. upgrade to that one
[21:02] <BenMilbo> !tab
[21:02] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[21:02] <joel> Guillem: why not upgrade to Gutsy? That might fix it in itself (plus add a few other cool things)
[21:03] <flea> BenMilbo: fdisk -l /dev/<yourharddrive>
[21:03] <Jckf> How can I access the stuff on my Windows Mobile device (mainly the memory card) from Ubuntu?
[21:03] <flea> BenMilbo: try to aquaint yourself with your drives/partitiions
[21:03] <joel> Jckf: when you plug it in does it not auto mount?
[21:03] <Guillem_> joel, you are right, but I don't want to leave her alone during the upgrade and we cannot manage to meet so long time because we live at diferent cities, I have childhood and time is a mess....
[21:03] <Jckf> No
[21:03] <Infernalord> Hello everyone, I need some help configuring my graphics card, please!
[21:03] <BenMilbo> I appreciate the help guys
[21:03] <magnetron> Jckf: set your mobile to standard USB mass storage mode. if it supports it.
[21:03] <joel> Guillem: she can manually set it but then if she moves her computer she'll have to change that
[21:04] <Guillem_> joel, magnetron I'm willing to upgrade her, but It will be quite diferent
[21:04] <magnetron> !helpme | Infernalord
[21:04] <ubotu> Infernalord: Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[21:04] <flea> ikonia: did you get the imgs i hosted?
[21:04] <Jckf> magnetron: I'd need extra software on the phone?
[21:04] <Guillem_> joel, yes, you are right. Thanks for the pointer. She will have to setup the card in roaming mode if she goes elsewhere, though
[21:04] <ikonia> flea: I'll look shortly
[21:05] <flea> BenMilbo: np i say the thing about knowing your drives/partitions bc grub can be confusing if you are not familiar with your partitions already
[21:05] <joel> Guillem: yeah that will do for now but I suggest getting her on Gutsy soon because Hardy is coming out in three weeks and it's going to be the best Ubuntu release yet
[21:05] <magnetron> Jckf: i'm not sure windows mobile supports standard USB mass storage mode. you'd have to ask your phone salesman
[21:05] <kermas> hi to everyone
[21:05] <Infernalord> I can only get 640x480 or 800x600 resolutions, and I need better, I just don't know exactly what to do. Maybe I need to install some drivers, my card is an onboard Intel.
[21:06] <turdega> !windowsmobile
[21:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about windowsmobile - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:06] <Guillem_> joel, :)
[21:06] <BenMilbo> Thanks Flea, can you refer me to a site where I can learn more about Grub?  and how to reinstall it
[21:06] <magnetron> !grub | BenMilbo
[21:06] <ubotu> BenMilbo: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[21:06] <joel> Infernalord: go to your xorg /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see what you can find in there
[21:06] <mathew> I have a white screen on WoW after I log on, and I don't have the wtf/Config.wtf file. What can I do?
[21:07] <joel> Mathew: stop playing WoW it's a drug that needs to be banned
[21:07] <joel> ;)
[21:07] <flea> BenMilbo: yes (or if someone else has the ubuntu/grub doc link handy?)
[21:07] <Ssam`> hey
[21:07] <Ssam`> what at the administration tools in ubuntu called?
[21:07] <mathew> IWoW
[21:07] <flea> ty ubotu
[21:07] <Guillem_> joel, interesting, she has Beryl 0.3.0 I installed there so long time ago....
[21:07] <turdega> Jckf, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/WindowsMobile
[21:08] <joel> Guillem: yeah Beryl doesn't even exist any more, taken over by Compiz....and it's so much more stable
[21:08] <Infernalord> joel: I found the file, do you want to see the content?
[21:08] <joel> Infernalord: don't post all of it in the window, either private message me or put it online and give me a link
[21:08] <BenMilbo> I'm following this guide to reinstall Grub "http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351"
[21:08] <Ssam`> what are the administration tools in ubuntu called...the ones wit users and groups management in gui?
[21:08] <Guillem_> joel, looking at her synaptic is like flashing-back,
[21:09] <GlenQuagmire> actually beryl was forked from compiz, and now they are together, naming it compiz-fusion if im not mistaken
[21:09] <joel> Guillem: I still don't use Synaptic much, I prefer apt-get
[21:09] <turdega> Ssam`, system/administration/users and groups
[21:09] <Ssam`> yea but what are they called?
[21:09] <Lyricaldogg> Hi everyone, what do i need to make my PC my home server ?
[21:09] <Ssam`> if u want to download them
[21:09] <Ssam`> apt-get....
[21:09] <joel> Lyricaldogg: what kind of a server, just really basic?
[21:09] <Guillem_> Lyricaldogg, it depends of what you want to serve, I guess....
[21:09] <Lyricaldogg> joel: yes please
[21:09] <turdega> Ssam`, users-admin
[21:10] <turdega> thats what you have to run to launch it
[21:10] <BobSlob> anyone happen to use a auzentech hda x-plosion card... i'm having quite the trouble
[21:10] <Lyricaldogg> Guillem_: in this case just internet
[21:10] <joel> Lyricaldogg: sudo apt-get install samba
[21:10] <Guillem_> Lyricaldogg, you have two ethernet cards?
[21:10] <BobSlob> it appears to be detected... but i cant for the life of me get the optical out/spdif to work
[21:10] <joel> Lyricaldogg: I have a really basic network all the computers running Samba (including server)
[21:10] <Lyricaldogg> joel : thank you ?
[21:10] <Ssam`> thanks i am asking cuz i am on debian...i am waiting for the new ubuntu :)
[21:10] <BobSlob> and being new to linux... so lost
[21:10] <Redian> Scunizi: Even though it probably won't work, I'm having her delete all the faulty Linux partitions. Its almost funny, she has 7 partitions. A fat32, 3 ext3s and 3 linux swaps. >.>
[21:11] <joel> 3 swaps!?
[21:11] <turdega> Ssam`, cool nothing wrong with deb =)
[21:11] <Lyricaldogg> Guillem_: 2 eth ? no, 1
[21:11] <Ssam`> yep :)
[21:11] <Redian> joel: 3 swaps 3 paritions, 3 failed installs
[21:11] <Redian> XD
[21:11] <Guillem_> Lyricaldogg, but  you want to provide internet access to other machines?
[21:11] <Ssam`> except u have to install everything from scratch its kewl u learn a lott
[21:12] <Infernalord> joel:  here it is: http://dpaste.com/43805/
[21:12] <Scunizi> Redian, THAT would cause issues.. 2 ext3s and 1 swap is all you need for linux.. 1 ext3=10-12 gigs for / (root) ... 1 swap (max 1gig)... the rest ext3 for /home
[21:12] <Lyricaldogg> Guillem_: not alot, just for  laptop that does not have a Dongle
[21:12] <Ssam`> okay ubuntu dosent have users-admin anywhere i can download ubuntu packages directly?
[21:12] <heartsblood> whats the command to check your ipods physical address?
[21:12] <Redian> Scunizi: wouldn't that be nice if getting rid of the extras and resizing the windows to its original size worked?
[21:12] <joel> how do I go idle or invisible here ?
[21:13] <cder> Scunizi: if i am at work and i want to log in to my windows xp machine then log into ubuntu on vmware is this possible?
[21:13] <Starnestommy> joel: /away reason
[21:13] <Scunizi> Redian, no need to resize yet. try first.
[21:13] <Guillem_> Lyricaldogg, which is the configuration? I mean how do you connect the "server" to the internet? and how do you interconnect the "server" and the laptop?
[21:13] <Redian> Scunizi: Hmm, it won't let her edit the partitions. She can't unmount the ext3s and swaps
[21:13] <Scunizi> cder, log into one or the other but not windows to ubuntu.. you can also use Tight vnc for gui connection..
[21:14] <sercik> someone can help me on how to setkeycodes?
[21:14] <heartsblood> cd usb
[21:14] <heartsblood> sorry
[21:15] <sercik> dmesg output tell me about setkeycodes
[21:15] <Scunizi> Redian, on reinstall when you get to the partitioning section you have to choose manual .. in there you'll be able to delete the uneeded partitions.
[21:15] <cder> Scunizi: how can i log into ubuntu from remote if its on a vmware in xp
[21:15] <Redian> Scunizi: I have her in partition manager, that won't work?
[21:15] <rwycuff> Infernalord:looks like you got driver set right maybe try removing all the modes accept the res yuo want in the config there
[21:15] <Scunizi> cder, it has it's own ip.. set router to port forward the right port to the right ip..
[21:16] <Lyricaldogg> Guillem: i have a multi port wireless modem, they are all conected to the modem but 1 of the laptops does not have a wireless. so My Pc connects to the Modem wirelesn gives through Ethernets the
[21:16] <Scunizi> Redian, partition manager in Windows?
[21:16] <Scunizi> Redian, or the live cd?
[21:16] <Redian> Scunizi: livecd
[21:16] <cder> Scunici: no sure i can do that with my cablr modem
[21:16] <cder> cable
[21:17] <Infernalord> rwycuff: it is very strange, because all the modes are on the xorg.conf but I ican only choose 640x480 and 800x600. I haven't installed any drivers, maybe I should try to get the latest ones? I just don't know exactly where...
[21:17] <Guillem_> Lyricaldogg, then you have two cards at the server: the ethernet card and the wireless card
[21:17] <Scunizi> Redian, yes that will work.. however if you are just going to delete what's not needed then you need to know which partition has / on it and which swap is setup for the install.. better to delete them all and recreate them then reinstall.
[21:17] <cder> its buy router time
[21:17] <BenMilbo> Flea, can I talk to you directly about my problem?
[21:17] <lewench> I have a G5 mouse but my "side button" doesn't work. Where would I go to configure this?
[21:17] <Redian> Scunizi: I'm having her delete all but the windows one.
[21:17] <cder> i have one already but its not for a cable modem
[21:18] <Redian> Scunizi: Odd thing is none of them have a boot flag, and it wouldn't let her select unmount for the partitions
[21:18] <Scunizi> cder, ah.. I forgot.. get a router.. cheep and also good protection for your windows side.
[21:18] <rwycuff> Infernalord:try in the respos but ive got video card that does the same to me and then i do what i just told yuo to and vola it works
[21:18] <Redian> Scunizi: without unmounting she can't delete them
[21:18] <Lyricaldogg> Guillem_: i'm now going to get samba to run and give it a go.... yes i have the ethernet and wireless
[21:18] <flea> BenMilbo: sure
[21:18] <Guillem_> Lyricaldogg, you have two ways to do this kind of things: 1) a proxy 2) a firewall setup. Proxy is easier to setup but only will give the laptop access to http:// and ftp:// (no games, etc.)
[21:18] <Scunizi> Redian, that'll work... if they are not mounted you won't be able to unmount them..
[21:18] <Guillem_> Lyricaldogg, samba will let you share files among the machines
[21:18] <lewench> I have a G5 mouse but my "side button" doesn't work. Where would I go to configure this?
[21:19] <cder> Scunizi: i have this labtop and a imac so i need something for sure
[21:19] <flea> lewench: xorg.conf
[21:19] <nathan42100> is it possible to automount a fat32 partition when you login?
[21:19] <Guillem_> Lyricaldogg, "firestarter" used to be a nice tool to setup the firewall easily ... It is long I don't use but may do the trick
[21:19] <lewench> flea, thanks
[21:19] <nathan42100> without having to enter any passwords?
[21:19] <flea> lewench: np
[21:19] <Guillem_> Lyricaldogg, "squid" is the proxy
[21:20] <tyuio_> hi
[21:20] <Scunizi> Redian,  the live cd typically doesn't allow you to "see" the HD.. you could have her install gparted in the live cd if she has enough ram.. then run that.. that should be able to do it.
[21:20] <gatestone> No sound. aplay -l shows: **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[21:20] <gatestone> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: AD198x Analog [AD198x Analog]
[21:20] <gatestone>   Subdevices: 0/1
[21:20] <gatestone>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[21:20] <FloodBot1> gatestone: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:20] <Lyricaldogg> Guillem: Joel : Will i be able to connect a windows OS to it ?
[21:20] <gatestone> My sound used to work,but something has happened?
[21:21] <gatestone> On gutsy that is
[21:21] <tyuio_> the size having swap partition is it limited ?
[21:21] <Redian> Scunizi: hmm, I'm having use the install feature..
[21:21] <Guillem_> Lyricaldogg, to transfer files to windows OS: samba
[21:21] <Infernalord> rwycuff: Ok, I will delete the other modes from xorg.conf and then should I run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" ?
[21:21] <Scunizi> Redian, that should work.
[21:21] <tyuio_> if yes tell me how much ?
[21:21] <Guillem_> Lyricaldogg, to surf the web: squid (+ setting up the proxy at windows web browser)
[21:22] <rwycuff> Infernalord: no dont reconfigure it just put something in there manually like say "1280x1024" by itself then restart X and see if it does what you want
[21:22] <Guillem_> Lyricaldogg, to really "share" the internet: you need a firewall setup which routes packages from the windows machine (NAT). Firestarter is your friend here
[21:23] <tyuio_> hello
[21:23] <Guillem_> Lyricaldogg, installing samba is like making the linux box behave as a windows machine at a windows network.
[21:23] <asker> quick question.. what is the best graphical code editor pre-installed with ubuntu?
[21:23] <bobbo85> Hi all, I can't get Audacity or SoundRecorder to record any sound.  I'm talking about songs playing etc on the computer, not from an input line or a mic.  Any help?
[21:23] <Redian> Scunizi:  IS there a way she can apply the changes without creating an ext3 for linux and a linux-swap? (in the install
[21:23] <lunartear> anyone here familiar with ACL?
[21:23] <LjL> asker: pre-installed? i think there's basically only gedit nano and vim pre-installed
[21:24] <asker> ty
[21:24] <LjL> asker: why can't you, uhm, install one? :)
[21:24] <LjL> !code | asker
[21:24] <ubotu> asker: Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, eclipse, pida
[21:24] <Scunizi> Redian, not that I'm aware of because she's deep into the install process.. no problem though.. delete all and then create what's actually needed and go through the install process.
[21:25] <J-Unit> "
[21:25] <J-Unit> if you don't know what your gigabit adapter is designated as, you can find out by looking under system > administration > network" were in network do i look?
[21:25] <Guillem_> asker, Hardy will come with a very updated anjuta
[21:25] <Redian> Scunizi: How big does the ext3 need to be?
[21:25] <tyuio_> nonone knwo ?
[21:25] <tyuio_> wake up
[21:25] <_elemental> anyone know how I can clear a terminal buffer?
[21:25] <asker> thanks ill try a couple o these.. if they are not what im looking for ill be back. (to ask what to install)
[21:26] <Exteris> _elemental, clear ?
[21:26] <Starnestommy> tyuio_: you may need to ask your question again
[21:26] <Scunizi> Redian, if you are not seperating / from /home then as big as you want.. You can use all the remaining space that is not taken by windows or a 1 gig /swap
[21:26] <MadSurfer> Question : How to love Microsoft software ?
[21:26] <Starnestommy> _elemental: ctrl+L
[21:26] <tyuio_> the size having swap partition is it limited ?
[21:26] <Starnestommy> !ot | MadSurfer
[21:26] <bastid_raZor> tyuio_; swap is not limited no.. but should be about 1G or at max 2G
[21:26] <ubotu> MadSurfer: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[21:26] <Scunizi> MadSurfer, from a distance.
[21:26] <_elemental> Exteris, that will clear the screen but yo can still page up and see the buffer
[21:26] <Exteris> _elemental, gnome-terminal has a reset and clear button
[21:27] <Exteris> _elemental, logout & login again?
[21:27] <lewench> flea, would you know how to setup the G5 mouse in ubuntu?
[21:27] <MadSurfer> Scunizi, exactly what I am thinking today :D
[21:28] <Johnson> anyone have pyqt installed
[21:28] <_elemental> Extris, reset and clear does it, is there a way to hot key that?
[21:28] <Riddell> Johnson: yes
[21:28] <Johnson> im trying to make it form surce but it doesn't ever install anything in my usr/bin, pretty annoying it installs stuff all over my python distro tho.
[21:28] <Redian> Scunizi: I just hope the two files on the disc that are bad won't mess up her install again.
[21:28] <MadSurfer> Question 2: how to leave the MS world ?
[21:28] <tyuio_> seriously having swap partition is it usefull when the RAM is fully complete ?
[21:29] <BenMilbo> Can anybody help me with booting my windows XP from a non-first disk?
[21:29] <slimjimflim> anybody know why audio would stop working w/ adobe flash player?
[21:29] <Scunizi> Redian, what 2 files are bad? are they in the windows side.. ? or the other side?
[21:29] <Johnson> Riddell, how do i get it  in usr/bin, when i build from source it does all this stuff in my python adds all these files etc, but when a program tries to call pyqt it doeswork i opened bin and its not there
[21:29] <nathan42100> is it possible to automount a harddrive on login without inputting a password?
[21:29] <bastid_raZor> Johnson; /usr/local/bin possibly?
[21:29] <Redian> Scunizi: She checked disc integrity and she got two bad files
[21:29] <Johnson> bastid_raZor, not there either
[21:29] <tyuio_> i mean is the swap take control when the RAM usage is full ?
[21:29] <bastid_raZor> Johnson; it should actually ask you where you want to put the binary if making from source.
[21:29] <Scunizi> Redian, what did she use to check with?
[21:29] <tyuio_> i mean is the swap take control when the RAM usage is full ? bastid_raZor
[21:30] <Redian> Scunizi: "Check Disk Integrity" on th eliveCD
[21:30] <Scunizi> tyuio_, yes it's used like ram on the hd.
[21:30] <_elemental> Extris, i found it, thanks man
[21:30] <askand> Hi, my laptop keep turning itself of, the laptop is running all the time and the CPU gets hot..this is Ubuntus fault because it does not happen in Windows..any idea on what I can do?
[21:30] <joetheodd> Stupid question time! Does Ubuntu have drivers / software to make use of a WinTV card? If so, can it act as a primary video interface?
[21:30] <Scunizi> Redian, ah.. ok.. well .. we'll see :)
[21:30] <flea> lewench: no actually i dont
[21:30] <slimjimflim> askand, turn of acpid
[21:30] <flea> lewench: i was looking around though
[21:30] <lewench> Does anyone know how to setup a 5 button mouse in xorg.conf? Im currently in there and I, under input devices
[21:30] <askand> ﻿slimjimflim:  how?
[21:31] <Orbixx> Just so all you Ubuntu fans know.
[21:31] <askand> ﻿slimjimflim:  ok did that now..
[21:31] <Johnson> bastid_raZor, it doesn't ask my anything
[21:31] <askand> ﻿slimjimflim: what does it do?
[21:31] <Orbixx> I've tried on 3 different distros to install rtorrent.
[21:31] <tyuio_> why the swap size is limited the maximum is only 2gB like he say bastid_raZor
[21:31] <tyuio_> ????`
[21:31] <slimjimflim> it's the power saver
[21:31] <Orbixx> Every distro, but Ubuntu Gutsy failed hard.
[21:31] <Johnson> i just run configure.py then make, then make install
[21:31] <Ace2016> Hi all
[21:31] <XeiaieX> hello
[21:31] <BenMilbo> Can someone please help me with the Grub utility?  I'm stuck and when I try to boot back in WindowsXP it shows the loading screen for a split second and then restarts back to the Grub menu
[21:31] <joetheodd> Orbixx, w00t.
[21:31] <Riddell> Johnson: ../configure.py LIBDIR_QT=/usr/lib  I think
[21:31] <Ace2016> is there a mouse compatibility website for linux??1?
[21:32] <Lyricaldogg> Guillem: i'm havin troubles, it's nor capable of doin the instalation plus asks me to change to visible_hostname
[21:32] <bastid_raZor> tyuio_;  it is not limited but normally anything over 2GB is overkill and pointless.. you can make it what you want.
[21:32] <lewench> flea, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=416688 post#5 look like it might work?
[21:32] <Johnson> aight
[21:32] <XeiaieX> there is way too much going on in here to keep up for me lol
[21:32] <lewench> Don't want to try it and mess it up.
[21:32] <tyuio_> ok
[21:32] <tyuio_> thx i will
[21:32] <bastid_raZor> Johnson; what program did you install?
[21:32] <tyuio_> try
[21:32] <tyuio_> bye
[21:33] <XeiaieX> how do i make my own channel?
[21:34] <stalker314314> my screen is broken and that ubuntu screen configurator is to blame. Even when I return my old xorg.conf and restart X, it's still 800x600
[21:34] <bastid_raZor> Johnson; i see.. then in that directory the binary is located.. or use riddell's configure syntax
[21:34] <stalker314314> what else that confirator changed?
[21:34] <Enul> I really hate to ask this but will ubuntu work with a usb modem?
[21:35] <ryanakca> Why can't I mount devices? I get "An error occured while accessing 'Lexar', the system pesponded: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" member "Mount" error name "(unset)" destination "org.freedesktop.Hal") when trying to do so from a GUI interface
[21:35] <Orbixx> Whilst I'm here.
[21:35] <bastid_raZor> stalker314314; you could use sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg    to reconfigure X and add more resolutions
[21:35] <stalker314314> what is the name of that configurator that is starting when X is broken?
[21:35] <Orbixx> Would any of you know why the Ubuntu installation always freezes on my computer.
[21:35] <nathan42100> ranakca, is that a windows partition?
[21:35] <askand> What does acpid do?
[21:35] <Orbixx> Intel Core 2 Duo E6600, 4GB DDR2 RAM, RAID-0 2x WD Raptor 10,000RPM
[21:36] <Orbixx> 8800GTX, Nvidia
[21:36] <Orbixx> Any known issues with those components?
[21:36] <ryanakca> askand: its the Advanced Configuration and Power Interface event daemon
[21:36] <flea> my pentium 2 has no comment Orbixx
[21:36] <XeiaieX> someone who knows how to create my own channel pls PM me?
[21:36] <ryanakca> nathan42100: no
[21:36] <Orbixx> hah
[21:36] <Orbixx> XeiaieX: Join the channel you want to make.
[21:36] <Orbixx> It automatically creates it.
[21:36] <nathan42100> try sudo mount -o force <location>
[21:37] <nathan42100> then restart and try to mount it if you can't do it then
[21:37] <askand> ﻿ryanakca: I see, how would turning that of make my CPU cooler?
[21:37] <XeiaieX> oh i see... hmm, this is my first time evern in xchat. thanks a lot ill try it!
[21:37] <stalker314314> i started that and it shows:xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.2008040822361
[21:37] <stalker314314> and xorg is still the same (my original which all of sudden does not work)
[21:38] <Enul> will ubuntu support a usb modem?
[21:38] <bastid_raZor> stalker314314; you added higher resolutions when you ran that command?
[21:38] <stalker314314> no, it just spit that and exited
[21:39] <asker> are the hardy free and non free apt repos dead?
[21:39] <asker>  Failed to fetch http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dists/hardy/free/binary-i386/Packages.gz
[21:39] <stalker314314> thing is...I already have ok xorg.conf with ok resolutions, but it just don't load after X restart
[21:39] <ryanakca> askand: how would turning it on make it cooler? That I don't know, but if you install it, it should start at boot...
[21:40] <XeiaieX> oh how neat. lol
[21:40] <XeiaieX> it worked
[21:40] <gatestone> OK, I confess: my laptop physical mount button was on!
[21:40] <ryanakca> askand: iirc, you can use it to control the fans...
[21:40] <Redian> Scunizi: its installing....ooooo she's at 8%, last time it failed at 58%
[21:41] <Scunizi> Redian, cross your fingers.. did she try to manually do the partitions last time? weird that she had so many.
[21:41] <Redian> no, she'd been splitting them using guided
[21:41] <bastid_raZor> wife returns home.. gotta run
[21:41] <Redian> so i think it just kept splitting and splitting
[21:41] <RedScare> hey, Gutsy gnome-power-manager will not control my laptops backlight brightness
[21:41] <askand> ﻿ryanakca:  Ok I was told here I while ago that turning it off could make my cpu cooler..
[21:42] <Scunizi> Redian, men have logic... women have emotion..
[21:42] <RedScare> any ideas on how to get gnome's power manager backlight to integrate with RandR extensions that xbacklight uses?
[21:42] <Redian> Scunizi: LOL NO. Her laptop killed itself, overheat.
[21:42] <ryanakca> askand: hmm... Don't know ;)
[21:43] <Tu13es> how do I search for files in terminal?
[21:43] <Scunizi> Redian, I was thinking of the partitioning.
[21:43] <kane77> Tu13es, use locate
[21:43] <Redian> Scunizi: ...and?
[21:43] <Scunizi> Tul3es, find, locate
[21:43] <Starnestommy> Tu13es: 'locate filename' or 'find / -name filenanme'
[21:43] <RedScare> anyone?
[21:43] <Lyricaldogg> Hi, how do i set visible mode on squid?
[21:43] <Saj0577> can anyone give me a hand with mounting NFS shares?if so send me a private message please :) cheers
[21:43] <nathan42100> is it possible to automount a harddrive on login without inputting a password?
[21:43] <Redian> Scunizi: Oh XD No I was LOL NOing because her computer killed itself in the middle of install, which definitely is not going to help...
[21:44] <dtolj> here is PVR question, does anyone know of any stand alone programs for commercial skipping?
[21:44] <Scunizi> Redian, It would be logical not to make too many partitions but emotionally it might make sense. :)
[21:44] <BenMilbo> I would really appreciate some help with this, it has been frustrating me for the past 3 hours.  I try booting XP from linux grub utility, and it goes to the start-up screen for a split second, shows a blue screen then IMMEDIATELY reboots the system back to the Grub menu.  I originally had XP and installed Ubuntu on a partition
[21:45] <RedScare> BenMilbo
[21:45] <BenMilbo> Yes
[21:45] <RedScare> after selecting XP in grub have you tried pressing F8 to view recovery options
[21:45] <RedScare> and tried safe mode?
[21:46] <Redian> Scunizi: I have to go do my hw, but I wanted to get that resolved for her...I'll talk to you maybe some other time. If you're interested in finding out whether or not it worked, send me a message and give me your email XD
[21:47] <RedScare> i had the same problem with Vista, turns out after mounting the drive for RW access in ubuntu I had corrupted the drive
[21:47] <BenMilbo> I can't make it far enough to press F8.  After i select Windows to boot, it shows the xp startup screen for less than a second, then the system restarts
[21:47] <RedScare> no
[21:47] <RedScare> you press F8 before the startup screen mate
[21:47] <asker> does anyone know where the X settings in failsafe are stored?
[21:47] <Scunizi> Redian, no problem.. I'm here when I can be. I"ve got a unique nick.. just shout!  :)  C Ya
[21:47] <RedScare> try booting again, and between GRUB and the split second you see XP startup hit F8 over and over
[21:47] <asker> I've looked in the Xorg.conf and all the hidden files. but I cant find it anywhere
[21:48] <BenMilbo> RedScare, I will try taht
[21:48] <RedScare> Ben, you have you mounted the NTFS drive in linux?
[21:48] <jessid> hello. Besides Istambul, is there another app to record what is in the screen???
[21:48] <Wobbo> does 3-way sli work on ubuntu?
[21:49] <BenMilbo> RedScare, I am at the advanced options menu.  I tried selecting Safemode and it still rebooted back to Grub
[21:49] <gatestone> How do I see dot-files (hidden files) in GNOME "choose a directory" window?
[21:49] <Exteris> gatestone, ctrl-h
[21:49] <jessid> gatestone ctrl + h
[21:49] <Starnestommy> gatestone: ctrl+h?
[21:49] <alatar> по русски тут говорят? )
[21:49] <jessid> gatestone no doubt, jejejee
[21:49] <RedScare> nice, you need to get your XP installation disc, enter recovery mode from booting to disc and then run CHKDSK
[21:50] <dimas_> hello, i need some help with evolution...keep asking me the password cause cant connect to server
[21:50] <RedScare> with option /f
[21:50] <RedScare> Ben, do you have your installation disc?
[21:50] <BenMilbo> Unfortunately, I do not
[21:51] <dubby> Hello anyone, I have a microsoft keyboard and anyway a couple of the functions work on it and a couple do not, i was wondering if i could bind a couple of the keys
[21:51] <RedScare> hm
[21:51] <dubby> or how to edit their use a bit
[21:51] <RedScare> Ben, you'll need to google and see if there is a boot recovery tool available for XP that you can burn to disc or put to usb flash drive like I did with my Vista partition
[21:51] <alatar> what does the mistake "/usr/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory collect2: ld returned 1 exit status" mean and how can I repair it?
[21:51] <J-Unit> dubby, system-->preferences-->keyboard shortcuts?
[21:51] <RedScare> it will be your only hope of diagnosing the problem
[21:52] <BenMilbo> Ok Red I'll try that.  I'll let you know how it goes
[21:52] <BenMilbo> Thanks
[21:52] <jessid> How can i create flash files in ubuntu???
[21:52] <RedScare> good luck
[21:52] <aguitel> why in diferents servers (software sorces) are diferents updates?
[21:52] <mifuyne> jessid: from an existing file?
[21:53] <Saj0577> can anyone help with mounting nfs shares?
[21:53] <Starnestommy> aguitel: each of those sources have different software
[21:53] <jessid> mifuyne no, from zero
[21:53] <dimas_> i would like to know what is the server name of hotmail in evolution
[21:53] <budluva> whats the best way of converting an .mkv to an .mp4?
[21:53] <aguitel> Starnestommy: why ?
[21:54] <mifuyne> There's mtasc: http://www.mtasc.org/
[21:54] <alatar> can someone help me plz?
[21:54] <mifuyne> but that's just a compiler
[21:54] <mifuyne> and it's more complicated than writing actionscript using Adobe Flash
[21:54] <mifuyne> because you have to write EVERYTHING in actionscript...
[21:54] <gatestone> No jessid, exteris, starnestommy, ctrl-h only works in Nautilus, not in Gtk "choose a directory" dialog!!!!
[21:55] <Starnestommy> aguitel: I'm not sure exactly why
[21:55] <jessid> gatestone ok!
[21:55] <Starnestommy> alatar: it means that ctrl1.o doesn't exist
[21:56] <Jedistorm> Hello all looking for a little help with Ubuntu. My pc locked up and I had to reboot the system. Now when it boots up the display ghost across the screen a bout 5 times. Is there any way to resolve this with reinstalling
[21:56] <mifuyne> jessid: Maybe this would allow you to create flash files in a similar fashion as Adobe Flash: http://f4l.sourceforge.net/
[21:56] <Exteris> gtk choose a directory dialog sucks
[21:56] <alatar> I understand ) but what library I must install to prevent this mistake?
[21:56] <jessid> mifuyne thanks a lot!!!
[21:56] <RedScare> needing gnome power manager help
[21:56] <mifuyne> no problem :) I hope it helps
[21:59] <alatar> Starnestommy> I understand ) but what library I must install to prevent this mistake?
[21:59] <dimas_> i dont know why evolution keeps asking me the password cause doesnt succeed the connection...i am trying to use it with hotmail...any suggestion?
[21:59] <Jedistor1> Hello all looking for a little help with Ubuntu. My pc locked up and I had to reboot the system. Now when it boots up the display ghost across the screen a bout 5 times. Is there any way to resolve this with reinstalling
[21:59] <kane77> I am resizing my partitions.. wish me good luck :D
[22:00]  * dclarke desperate 
[22:00] <Starnestommy> alatar: does /usr/lib/crt1.o exist>
[22:00] <dclarke> I just installed 7.10 and at first reboot .. there is no X .. just a ttya login
[22:00] <dclarke> did I miss some step duting install ?
[22:00] <tawt> why is it when i try to go to suspend or hibernate mode for my laptop it just goes to a black screen from which i cannot return?
[22:00] <dimas_> starnetommy would you help me with evolution?
[22:01] <alatar> Starnestommy> no
[22:01] <dclarke> tawt : that sounds pretty suspended to me
[22:01] <dclarke> dammit .. this linux crap is useless .. out of here
[22:01] <dimas_> starnestommy would you help me with evolution?
[22:01] <Starnestommy> dimas_: what kind of help do you need with it?
[22:02] <geronimaldo> dimas_ that question cracked me up
[22:02] <Starnestommy> alatar: I don't know which library contains it
[22:02] <stefg> tawt: you are using the restricted nvidia-driver....
[22:02] <dimas_> starnestommy it keeps asking me for the password...no able to connect to server
[22:02] <Starnestommy> dimas_: which server are you trying to connect to?
[22:03] <meltra_>  /me thinks there is a new spam bot attacking wiki styled websites ... all my favo tuto sites ...
[22:03] <alatar> Starnestommy> thanks )
[22:03] <tawt> stefg: i'm not using nvidia
[22:03] <geronimaldo> meltra_ : what makes you think that?
[22:03] <dimas_> starnestommy i am trying to connect to hotmail...so i am not sure if putting 127.0.0.1 in server is correct
[22:03] <hikejinx> dimas, does hotmail even have pop access?
[22:03] <hikejinx> I think you need a hack or something for it.
[22:04] <geronimaldo> hikejinx: they charge or you can hack it
[22:04] <bastid_raZor> ompaul; yeah. go figure the guy is in here less than a minute and the world is coming to an end..
[22:04] <RedScare> tawt, because suspend hibernate doesn't always work in ubuntu
[22:04] <Saj0577> no unless u pay for hotmail the free versions can not be used with evolution outlook express etc
[22:04] <Starnestommy> dimas_: put in whatever hotmail's server address is, not 127.0.0.1
[22:04] <stefg> tawt: so ok... usually it's some restricted driver which misbehaves. it needs to unloaded/reloaded to make wake up work
[22:04] <Jedistor1> Freepop for hotmal access
[22:04] <RedScare> depends on your harware
[22:04] <tawt> stefg: my graphics driver?  ati?
[22:04] <dimas_> starnestommy where i can get that info?
[22:04] <ompaul> bastid_raZor, na - he lied - very specific error - only the info was wrong ;-)
[22:04] <stefg> tawt: hmmm.. that's even worde
[22:04] <Tu13es> when using WOL, I should still get a link with the  router when powered down, right?
[22:05] <stefg> *worse
[22:05] <Starnestommy> dimas_: I don't know.  I use gmail, not hotmail
[22:05] <stefg> !suspend
[22:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about suspend - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:05] <CDOG> Hi. I almost running out of space in my ubuntu partition so i wanted to resize it. I tried to do it from acronis disk director 10 in windows but told me i would have to do something in order to make it bootable again. So i decied to use gparted from within ubuntu but the "resize" option is grayed out. What can i do ? Thanks
[22:05] <tawt> !hibernate
[22:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hibernate - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:05] <dimas_> starnestommy where in gmail you got it?
[22:05] <RedScare> !slepp
[22:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about slepp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:05] <RedScare> !sleep
[22:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sleep - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:05] <tawt> hmm
[22:05] <RedScare> !power management
[22:06] <RedScare> !power-management
[22:06] <Randomtime> Redscare: try /msg ubotu if it's just for yourself
[22:06] <RedScare> blah
[22:06] <RedScare> its not
[22:06] <stefg> tawt: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide#Method_1:_Install_the_Driver_the_Ubuntu_Way might help you
[22:06] <Starnestommy> dimas_: I'm not sure what you mean...
[22:06] <dimas_> starnestommy whats the ip for gmail?
[22:06] <ompaul> bastid_raZor, you got pm
[22:06] <RedScare> trying to figure out what the bot does and doesn't know for everyone
[22:06] <tawt> stefg: thanks, I'll look into it
[22:07] <CDOG> Hi. I almost running out of space in my ubuntu partition so i wanted to resize it. I tried to do it from acronis disk director 10 in windows but told me i would have to do something in order to make it bootable again. So i decied to use gparted from within ubuntu but the "resize" option is grayed out. What can i do ? Thanks
[22:07] <Starnestommy> dimas_: do you have a gmail address?
[22:07] <stefg> !msgthebot | RedScare
[22:07] <ubotu> RedScare: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[22:07] <dimas_> starnestommy i do
[22:07] <hikejinx> dimas, install freepops and read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200408
[22:07] <Starnestommy> dimas_: smtp, pop, or imap address?
[22:08] <curtmack> What is restricted-modules?
[22:08] <RedScare> so everyone noticed that evidently
[22:08] <curtmack> I mean, other than a package
[22:08] <dimas_> starnestommy thank i will
[22:08] <hikejinx> dimas_: its a how to to get hotmail in evolution
[22:08] <RedScare> does anyone know about gnome power manager
[22:08] <curtmack> RedScare: don't ask for people, ask for answers
[22:08] <Nitro> mention a quick, feature rich, ssl supported, gtk used ftp client
[22:08] <dimas_> hikejinx you know how?
[22:08] <webtoe>  I thought gmail offered imap access nowadays?
[22:08] <hikejinx> no, but page should guide you.
[22:09] <danand> !restricted | curtmack
[22:09] <ubotu> curtmack: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[22:09] <RedScare> how do I integrate the RandR extensions that xbacklight uses into gnome power manager so that the native backlight system will function
[22:09] <hikejinx> webtoe: It does. I use it.
[22:09] <wile> How can I change the keyboard layout in GDM ? gnome or kde configuration only affect session after login !
[22:09] <Starnestommy> dimas_: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/topic.py?topic=12912 or http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=78799&topic=12920 might be useful
[22:09] <webtoe> ah sorry, so why is any other sort of finangling needed for using it with evolution (I'm a mutt user so I may just be asking a stupid question).
[22:09] <dimas_> hikejinx would you tell me an address
[22:09] <danand> curtmack - ignore that ^^
[22:10] <hikejinx> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200408
[22:10] <donkeyboy> greetings. I am running gusty. during a test on a software package I get the following error"my_ip_addr = socket.gethostbyname(socket.gethostname()) gaierror: [Errno -5] No address associated with hostname", I somehow need to assoctaiet my hostname with an ipadress (preferably localhost), I don't have a FQDN for this machine, and just want it to find the localhost address when doing this...
[22:10] <donkeyboy> ...lookup. how can I go about doing that?
[22:10] <lewench> When connecting to a server (Places\connect to server\) server tpye windows shared... Is it possible for it to _not_ show on the desktop but still on "Places" as a history? Or is there another place I can save the folders too? Maybe map them somewhere else?
[22:10] <hikejinx> and Starnestommy posed one above
[22:10] <RedScare> how do I integrate the RandR extensions that xbacklight uses into gnome power manager so that the native backlight system will function
[22:10] <hikejinx> *posted
[22:10] <chimp> Im trying to use a program on the command line, but it spews out too much stuff to read, i cant scroll up since im using screen, using | seemingly doesnt work, and if i do > to a file i only get a few lines of what i saw, how can i make it copy everything i saw to a file?
[22:10] <dimas_> hikejinx got it thanks both
[22:10] <hikejinx> gg
[22:10] <webtoe> chimp: what programme? what are you typing on the command line
[22:10] <Tu13es> hm, I'm trying to use WOL but when I shut down my machine, it loses link with my router..
[22:11] <webtoe> ?
[22:11] <chimp> webtoe: im streaming using vlc
[22:11] <chimp> and transcoding
[22:11] <chimp> over ssh
[22:11] <CJS3141> Is anyone here knowledgeable about running Ubuntu under VirtualBox (Windows XP as the host OS)?
[22:11] <RedScare> chimp
[22:11] <RedScare> maybe, command > filename
[22:11] <webtoe> chimp: and which programme are you wanting to see the output from?
[22:11] <RedScare> type your command and then your filename
[22:11] <chimp> vlc
[22:12] <lewench> When connecting to a server (Places\connect to server\) server type windows shared... Is it possible for it to _not_ show on the desktop.
[22:12] <hmich> CJS3141: I run it this way
[22:12] <stefg> CDOG: first take a backup... then familiarize yourself with the concept of mountpoints, you might find a way to dolve the problem w/o resizing. The reason for your problemis that you cannot resize mounted partitions (and won't be able to unmount the / partition)
[22:12] <chimp> RedScare: As i said, if i use >, it shows only a few lines of what is printed to the screen
[22:12] <hmich> CJS3141: only with vista as a host OS
[22:12] <ricardo_> hello
[22:12] <RedScare> odd, sorry, hard to keep up in here @ times
[22:12] <webtoe> chimp: have you checked the man page for vlc to see where it chucks its standard error? it might already be dumping to a file (I don't know enough of the top of my head to give you a definitive answer without looking(
[22:12] <wile> Hello, is there a easy way to change the keyboard layout in gdm ?
[22:12] <CJS3141> hmisc: Can you point me to a good tutorial of how to share files between the two OS systems?
[22:12] <CDOG> If i use a Gparted boot cd, and resize my root ubuntu partition will GRUB or something get messed up and leave ubuntu unbootable? Thanks hopefully i can just use gparted
[22:13] <komachat> hi all, I'm still waiting for Beryl support in Fluxbox window manager... Any news ?
[22:13] <thundr2> stefg: couldn't CDOG just resize it by booting from a Ubuntu CD?
[22:13] <mull3t> sup fellas, can anyone recommend a video streaming app for linux? from a webcam?
[22:13] <chimp> ill have a look webtoe, ta
[22:13] <komachat> Hi guys, I'm still waiting for Beryl support in Fluxbox window manager... Any comment ?
[22:13] <webtoe> chimp: just had a look, you need to look on the web. www.videolan.org/doc
[22:13] <CDOG> stefg thanks but what about with gparted boot cd. Can i resize from there without making ubuntu unbootable? Thanks agian
[22:13] <stefg> thundr2: yes he could. but gparted has shreddered one partition to much for my taste :-\
[22:14] <RedScare> how do I integrate the RandR extensions that xbacklight uses into gnome power manager so that the native backlight system will function
[22:14] <ompaul> !beryl | komachat as for fluxbox you need to talk to its devs
[22:14] <ubotu> komachat as for fluxbox you need to talk to its devs: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[22:14] <mifuyne> brb
[22:14] <CJS3141> hmich: Sorry I mispelled your name, my previous comment was for you...
[22:14] <hmich> CJS3141: I just create a shared folder in VirtualBox, and then mount it using vboxsf filesystem type
[22:14] <stefg> CDOG: stop windows thinking :-) so what is taking so much space ?
[22:14] <mull3t> can anyone recommend a video streaming app for linux? from a webcam?
[22:14] <CDOG> stefg my ubuntu partition is tiny, only 6 gigs
[22:15] <webtoe> mull3t: what are you trying to do? If you explain a little, we could give better advice
[22:15] <komachat> !compiz
[22:15] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[22:15] <CJS3141> hmich: OK, how did you create the shared folder in Virtualbox?
[22:15] <stefg> CDOG: that's perfectly fine if you keep /home separate. and having /home separat is a god idea anyway
[22:15] <mull3t> can anyone recommend a video streaming app for linux? from a webcam?
[22:16] <hmich> CJS3141: in settings for you virtual machine
[22:16] <martiini> Why do I have polish and italian man pages on my system when my locales is english?
[22:16] <hmich> CJS3141: or you can create them even when running the VM, from the menu
[22:16] <webtoe> mull3t: what are you trying to do? www.videolan.org vlc is good for streaming. But are you wanting to read video from a webcam, in which case look for 'webcam' in the ubuntu repositories
[22:16] <askand> Hm I used cpufreq-set to try to slowdown my cpu and it worked.but now im stuck att 800 mhz and no command can make it go any faster.. :(
[22:16] <mull3t> thank you sir
[22:17] <genii> chimp: You need to tell it to redirect errors to the same file and not stdout,eg: command > filename 2>&1                 will capture also the errors and not just the regular output to the same file
[22:17] <hellues> !paste
[22:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[22:17] <stefg> CDOG: my ubuntu / partiton is 5 Gigs, and i never need more. i have /boot and /home on separate paritions, and some symlinks for some special dirs in /var
[22:17] <CJS3141> hmich: OK, thanks--I'll give it a try. :-)
[22:17] <mull3t> I'm trying to setup a camera and steram it so when i'm at work I can see what my bird is doing
[22:17] <mull3t> stream that is
[22:17] <hmich> in cygwin I have option --group-directories-first for ls command. Does anybody know why there is no such option for ls in latest coreutils?
[22:18] <balzac> hello
[22:18] <RedScare> how do I integrate the RandR extensions that xbacklight uses into gnome power manager so that the native backlight system will function?
[22:18] <balzac> I have a problem with malware on Ubuntu
[22:18] <balzac> It's called trackerd
[22:18] <webtoe> mull3t: I'm not going to ask.... webcam is what you need. It'll take pictures periodically and send them on to a webspace somewhere
[22:18] <GIn> balzac: are you serious?
[22:18] <balzac> That package needs to be eliminated from the repositories
[22:18] <Starnestommy> balzac: trackerd isn't malware, it's the program that does search idexing for tracker
[22:18] <mull3t> webtoe I want to set up a cam near my bird's cage and stream it so I can watch the bird at work
[22:19] <Pici> hmich: I see it in my ls (coreutils on 6.10-3ubuntu2 Hardy)
[22:19] <balzac> as far as I'm concerned, it is malware. It eats up all my RAM and it's hard to kill.
[22:19] <manhunt80> I have a problem with video sound. MP3 playing is fine, but I have no sound when watching Xvid in VLC player
[22:19] <webtoe> mull3t: lol., i read that differently
[22:19] <mull3t> :D i know
[22:19] <RedScare> disable search indexing?
[22:19] <balzac> It's badly designed software that consumes all my resources. I tried to turn off the indexing service to get rid of it.
[22:20] <webtoe> mull3t: look under your package manager, synaptic and look for webcam. Then look on the net at its webpage a see how to set it up. I haven't played around with it beforei but it sounds like what you need
[22:20] <hmich> Pici: I have coreutils 5.97, what's you version?
[22:20] <webtoe> mull3t: I assume you webcam is working
[22:20] <Pici> hmich: 6.10-3
[22:20] <frogduster> msg nickserv IDENTIFY fmOEn21ncx
[22:20] <balzac> It keeps coming back and the thing I resent most is that the process resists all attempts to kill it like a windows application.
[22:20] <mull3t> yeah i saw that actually it's only for images to ftp upload no video
[22:20] <Pici> frogduster: I suggest you change your password now.
[22:20] <frogduster> Yeah, I was just kidding.
[22:20] <frogduster> :-)
[22:20] <Starnestommy> balzac: even with kill -9?
[22:20] <GIn> vraagje, 1.5GB is hoeveel MB?
[22:20] <balzac> i should try it like that
[22:20] <ompaul> frogduster, so then it was offtopic
[22:20] <frogduster> Thx, though, Pici.
[22:20] <stefg> frogduster: haha! you owe 1273 paeople a beer and yourself a new password
[22:21] <frogduster> :-(  Oh noez!  ..at least there's beer.
[22:21] <balzac> I just never want to see Trackerd again in my system monitor
[22:21] <mull3t> i thought there'd be some application like windows media server or something i can use
[22:21] <balzac> I'd like to remove whatever package has it.
[22:21] <frogduster> ompaul: Yep, I suppose so.
[22:21] <GIn> 1.5 GB is hoe many MB?
[22:21] <Pici> balzac: Either diable it using bum, or tone down the indexing preferences.
[22:22] <ogre> trying to run quake4 but am getting these errors. can anyone tell me what packages i need to install http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62566/
[22:22] <Starnestommy> balzac: sudo apt-get remove tracker
[22:22] <geirha> GIn: 1500
[22:22] <balzac> thanks
[22:22] <frogduster> I did actually almost do that earlier, though.
[22:22] <webtoe> mull3t: There will be something but I doin't think windows media server would do what you want. Not over the internet, and probably not in a secure manner. But check the repos. And look for webcam support under linux generally. I've seen this stuff done before
[22:22]  * frogduster sighs at himself.
[22:22] <Starnestommy> balzac: just note that that may break things, like the deskbar applet
[22:22] <ompaul> !offtopic | frogduster
[22:22] <ubotu> frogduster: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[22:22] <balzac> I say screw the desk-bar applet
[22:22] <mull3t> thank you sir
[22:22] <mull3t> i appreciate your help
[22:22] <webtoe> no worries
[22:22] <frogduster> ah.
[22:22] <mull3t> cheers
[22:22] <balzac> trackerd is crap
[22:23] <webtoe> its what we're all here for!
[22:23] <Starnestommy> I managed to disable it without uninstalling it
[22:23] <GIn> geirha: it is no
[22:23] <GIn> geirha: it is not
[22:23] <RedScare> balzac, can you not simply disable?
[22:23] <balzac> Starnestommy: I did too, but then it came back after I upgraded.
[22:23] <Starnestommy> balzac: did disabling it again work?
[22:23] <webtoe> blazac, don't worry too much as the kernel will shift it out of the way when you're doing something important and it will stop searching when you're thrashing the computer
[22:23] <balzac> RedScare: that package shouldn't be in the repositories. It bogged me down after the upgrade to Gutsy Gibbon
[22:23] <frogduster> Trackerd is actually quite good stuff.
[22:24] <balzac> I'm not the only one. Tracker is not suitable for inclusion in an operating system.
[22:24] <geirha> GIn: well ok, it's somewhere between 1450 and 1550, but, it is yes. Unless you are asking about GiB and MiB
[22:24] <Starnestommy> it's a ram and cpu hog sometimes
[22:24] <balzac> they should throttle its memory usage or not include it.
[22:24] <ompaul> balzac, file a bug in that case
[22:24] <Monobi2> Hi. I just installed Hardy (using Wubi). I wanted to get some packages, but the urls in sources.list pointed to nonexistant locations. I modified my /etc/apt/sources.list to point to the gusty urls, but it still doesnt work :| http://pastebin.com/d13d3d919
[22:24] <ompaul> !hardy | Monobi2
[22:24] <ubotu> Monobi2: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[22:24] <RedScare> hm, well if its always indexing maybe there is a deeper problem
[22:24] <hmich> Pici: I have gutsy installed. Is it possible to just replace gutsy with hardy in sources.list and perform an upgrade?
[22:24] <frogduster> ..is there a workaround for the hd parking cycle issue?
[22:24] <balzac> ompaul: I don't have an account for bug-reports yet
[22:25] <frogduster> More accurately..
[22:25] <ompaul> !launchpad | balzac
[22:25] <ubotu> balzac: Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[22:25] <stefg> !upgrade | hmich
[22:25] <ubotu> hmich: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[22:25] <ompaul> balzac, very little stopping you
[22:25] <hmich> ubotu: thanks
[22:25] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[22:25] <RedScare> how do I integrate the RandR extensions that xbacklight uses into gnome power manager so that the native backlight system will function
[22:25] <balzac> thanks
[22:25] <frogduster> ..is there any plan on a fix being accepted into the Ubuntu archives?
[22:25] <robd> Hey guys
[22:25] <GIn> any way to lock a window so it can not be closed accidentally?
[22:25] <webtoe> robd: hey
[22:25] <robd> webtoe: How are you?
[22:25] <webtoe> fine
[22:26] <robd> webtoe: Good to hear, are you an expert with partitioning?
[22:26] <webtoe> robd: I wouldn't say an expert but I know a bit about it. And I'm sure someone here should know enough hopefully
[22:26] <webtoe> ask away
[22:26] <Simpl3x> Can someone please help me, my /boot seems to have been completely erased
[22:27] <frogduster> Simpl3x: Are you sure it's mounted?
[22:27] <timo> any one know any  way at all on how I can tell what ip my router has given out ?
[22:27] <robd> Does anyone know how to automate partitioning so that /dev/sda1 (no matter what type of file system) would automatically grow to the largest size possible?
[22:27] <Varega> hey all
[22:27] <Simpl3x> yes, it's mounted, and I can see the files in there, but there is no grub directory
[22:27] <Starnestommy> tuna: ifconfug
[22:27] <Starnestommy> whoops
[22:27] <Starnestommy> timo: ifconfig
[22:27] <robd> I just need the partition to grow from a boot disk automatically, after that I can handle the file system stuff
[22:27] <timo> with out looking om the client
[22:27] <Varega> timo, are you looking for the computer's IP, or the modem's IP?
[22:27] <ompaul> timo, ifconfig | grep inet\ addr:
[22:27] <robd> Basically I have to re-image 200 machines
[22:27] <RedScare> timo, IP to yourself? or all IP's given out?
[22:28] <pharoh> hey,is there a software i can use to copy an ebook that i can't download online but can read?
[22:28] <frogduster> Simpl3x: Oh.  That's not quite so complete as I imagined, but it is quite odd.
[22:28] <timo> redscare the ones given out
[22:28] <timo> so i dont have to do static
[22:28] <webtoe> robd: I'm not sure i understand what you are trying to do. You want to start an install on a machine, and get the install to automatically use all the disk?
[22:28] <frogduster> Simpl3x: Were you doing anything in there that might have caused it?
[22:29] <Simpl3x> frogduster: yea, I know I updated to the lates .15 kernel but when I rebooted it had removed everything from menu.lst so I think it did an imcomplete install of the new kernel or something
[22:29] <robd> webtoe: There's already an OS on the disk
[22:29] <webtoe> robd: If you are installing on 200 machines, install on one, make it perfect, then just copy the image of the hard drive on to the rest of the machiens
[22:29] <robd> webtoe: I just need to extend the partition to take up the entire disk
[22:29] <RedScare> hm, timo, I don't think there is a way to view a DHCP client listing without using the clients webaccess portal
[22:29] <arooni> is it ok to install a debian etch deb (privoxy) for ubuntu gutsy???
[22:29] <frogduster> hrm..
[22:29] <robd> webtoe: Most of the machines have different sized drives...
[22:29] <RedScare> possibly if you are using something like dd-wrt
[22:29] <Simpl3x> frogduster: and the menu.lst~ was the same
[22:29] <robd> webtoe: I already installed with a base image
[22:29] <robd> webtoe: I just need to make them aware of the entire drive size now
[22:29] <timo> rescare what i thout exactly
[22:30] <Pici> arooni: Why would you do that? privoxy is in the repositories.
[22:30] <alexus> howdy
[22:30] <Starnestommy> arooni: privoxy is already in ubuntu's universe repository
[22:30] <arooni> Pici, oh i didnt know that!
[22:30] <webtoe> robd: hmmm, Its probably possible as a lot of partitioning tools are command line driven, you could write a script to do it but it wouldn't be easy. I'm trying to think of an easier way to do it
[22:30] <RedScare> without a third-party firmware like dd-wrt they just aren't made to communicate that type of information except through port 80 via http interface
[22:30] <Pici> arooni: Always check first before going to external sources, theres a lot of stuff there ;)
[22:30] <timo> funny thing happend the other day, i turned off dhcp on the router. But the ip adresse were still bieng hennded out ?
[22:30] <arooni> i already installed it from a deb !!! what should i do now???
[22:30] <Lyricaldogg> Hi everyonr, i have just installed Squid and Samba.... my laptops are connected but the other can not get a internet connection from this one, can you help ?
[22:30] <arooni> a deb for etch
[22:30] <Varega> anyone got a second to help me debug my soundcard?
[22:30] <RedScare> timo, what router do you have
[22:31] <balzac> Ok, thanks for helping me get rid of trackerd
[22:31] <frogduster> Simpl3x: Ah.  I'd recommend backing up the menu.lst~, then copying it to menu.lst, then: Boot off of an older kernel, remove the latest kernel (you can check what your most recent is in synaptic), and then reinstall your latest kernel.
[22:31] <balzac> bye
[22:31] <webtoe> robd: Do the disks that have the base image have the other os on them? Or is it on another disk?
[22:31] <robd> webtoe: Any ideas?
[22:31] <timo> redscare it was not the router, but i see your piont.......
[22:31] <Pici> arooni: remove and install repo version.
[22:31] <GIn> can't wait to try Hardy stable :(
[22:31] <Lyricaldogg> Hi everyone, i have just installed Squid and Samba.... my laptops are connected but the other can not get a internet connection from this one, can you help ?
[22:31] <Simpl3x> frogduster: let me re-phrase that. Both menu.lst and menu.lst~ are the same, as in blank
[22:31] <linduxed> how do i check the version of an installed package?
[22:31] <arooni> ok awesome
[22:31] <frogduster> Simpl3x: ah.
[22:32] <clane> faggots
[22:32] <Starnestommy> linduxed: aptitude show packagename
[22:32] <frogduster> Simpl3x: Run "sudo update-grub" from the command line.
[22:32] <ompaul> !hardy | GIn
[22:32] <ubotu> GIn: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[22:32] <webtoe> linduxed: look in aptitude or synaptic
[22:32] <Simpl3x> frogduster: but it's a moot point now either way because the grub directory is no longer there so there is no grub whatsoever in stalled
[22:32] <RedScare> how do I integrate the RandR extensions that xbacklight uses into gnome power manager so that the native backlight system will function
[22:32] <GIn> omg, 24 April?
[22:32] <robd> webtoe: They've got a 10gb base image on /dev/sda1 but some disks are 250gb, others are 300gb and some others are 500gb... I want to write a script to auto extend the partition of /dev/sda1 to fill the entire drive. After that I can get the file system to recognize the extra space
[22:32] <GIn> that's so soon :-)
[22:32] <ompaul> !ot | GIn
[22:32] <ubotu> GIn: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[22:32] <timo> redscare, it was a dhcp i had install on one of my machines :P
[22:32] <RedScare> ahh
[22:32] <pharoh> hey,where can i get limewire from?
[22:33] <RedScare> i see
[22:33] <Simpl3x> frogduster: I think that worked
[22:33] <ompaul> !limewire | pharoh
[22:33] <ubotu> pharoh: limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install /msg ubotu java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider /msg ubotu FrostWire as an alternative.
[22:33] <webtoe> robd: Yes I
[22:33] <Simpl3x> frogduster: wait...wait...no it didn't
[22:33] <Simpl3x> there is still no /grub in there
[22:33] <timo> i dint know it could be done lol
[22:33] <ompaul> !test
[22:33] <ubotu> Failed.
[22:34] <Simpl3x> frogduster: but I'm going to reboot anyway and see what happens because I do see some things in there that might work
[22:34] <webtoe> robd: Yes I'm sure that's possible. I can't write it for you as I don't know the commands of the top of my head to do it. But you will want to look at fdisk and maybe gparted if it has a cli option. They should allow you to a.) get a look at the partition table of the disk and b.) resize once you know the amount of space that partition needs to be resized too
[22:34] <timo> !test
[22:34] <ubotu> Failed.
[22:34] <frogduster> Simpl3x: hrm.
[22:34] <kindofabuzz> how would i view all ports in yse command line?
[22:34] <frogduster> Simpl3x: Just for safety's sake, you should probably run "sudo update-grub" and see if it gives you errors.
[22:34] <kindofabuzz> how would i view all ports in  command line?
[22:35] <webtoe> robd: It sounds like an interesting problem and part of me is intrigued to sit and write a bash script for you but it would take me too long and I'm not sure it will be what you want etc. but its more than possible
[22:35] <Starnestommy> kindofabuzz: as in internet ports?
[22:35] <Simpl3x> frogduster: I did that and it said that there was no menu.lst found, so I told it to generate one
[22:35] <frogduster> Simpl3x:  *nod*
[22:35] <webtoe> kindofabuzz: netstat will do it. Look at the man page for specifics
[22:36] <robd> webtoe: Do you know if parted can extend a partition w/o touching the filesystem?
[22:36] <kindofabuzz> ok
[22:36] <frogduster> Simpl3x: Should work, then, if there were no more errors.
[22:36] <arooni> how can i test if my privoxy/tor setup works correctly (i'm trying to telnet to http://localhost:8118 ... and i type:  telnet http://localhost:8118 ... with no results :( ... what am i doing wrong?
[22:36] <kindofabuzz> no netstat isn't what i want
[22:36] <lucas2> hey. any idea why apt-get install ubuntu-xen-server   can't find that package on a fresh gutsy install
[22:36] <lucas2> ?
[22:36] <pharoh> !limewire | pharoh
[22:36] <Simpl3x> frogduster: then I'll brb hopefully
[22:36] <dda> guys, cups fails to work (some weird permission issues), what if I apt-get remove cupsys, and install the latest stable from cups website - how to better do it?
[22:37] <webtoe> robd: Do you mean will it resize a partition? So a 500Mb ext3 partion could be resized to a 250Gb partiton and then be booted?
[22:37] <robd> webtoe: yep
[22:37] <robd> webtoe: But we have to deal with NTFS and ext3
[22:38] <JohnRobert> is there a way to make a cifs mount try to auto re-mount itself if the connection goes down?
[22:38] <webtoe> robd: Yes, shouldn't be a problem. As long as the boot flag is set on the partition (and the boot flag shouldn't be altered with resizing) then it shouldn't be a problem.Bear in mind that this is IRC and therefore not gospel
[22:38] <webtoe> !
[22:38] <webtoe> robd: are they on the same disk?
[22:38] <robd> webtoe: Some servers are Ubuntu, others are Windows
[22:38] <robd> webtoe: I want to use an Ubuntu live cd to get this done though
[22:39] <webtoe> robd: This is my understanding of filesystems regarding ubuntu and windows. Windows NT (and its brethren) do not like be shifted around much at all. If they stay in position and the linux partitions move aroudn then it should be fine. But don't hold me to that. Remember, make sure you have backups!
[22:39] <robd> webtoe: It's really fine with NTFS, I know it inside and out
[22:40] <robd> webtoe: I just need to get a tool to automatically resize the base partition
[22:40] <webtoe> robd: Then I don't think you'll have a problem. But I don't know the man page for parted etc well enough to point you in a more accurate direction sorry.
[22:41] <webtoe> robd: Unless you can find something on google, I think you'll need to write a bash script to run from the live disc that will use parted or something similar to perform the repartiioning for you
[22:41] <smithey93> hey guys, whats the best program to record video files 2 a dvd what i can play on my dvd player?
[22:41] <robd> webtoe: Thats fine, I intend to write a script
[22:42] <Johnson_> fugg. i cant get pyqt to install in usr/bin
[22:42] <webtoe> robd: k, then do you need some resources to get started or is there anythign else I can help you with? (Sorry if this wasn't quite the response you were looking for)
[22:43] <pharoh> okay...limewire won't install for me,i kepp getting an error.what do i do now?
[22:43] <spasticteapot> I'm trying to install blueJ.
[22:43] <robd> webtoe: How can I control fdisk from the command line w/o using the interactive menu thing?
[22:43] <budluva> how do i find out what version of a package is that i have installed
[22:43] <spasticteapot> Where does Synaptic put my JDK?
[22:43] <smithey93> hey guys, whats the best program to record video files 2 a dvd what i can play on my dvd player?
[22:43] <robd> webtoe: Can I just pass a "resize partition /dev/sda1 to the default max size" ?
[22:44] <lucas2> when I apt-get install xen-tools, it asks me to put my install cd back in the drive.  I don't have it anymore.  Is there a way to make it grab whatever it needs from the web?
[22:45] <pen> how to change the priority of an app permanently?
[22:45] <jcornwall> lucas2, remove the cdrom line from /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:45] <webtoe> robd: off the top of my head, sfdisk is a cli option based partition editor. Its advanced and so be careful
[22:45] <GIn> when I click on a link, the page does not update. :\ weird
[22:45] <webtoe> robd: non-interactive
[22:45] <lucas2> jcornwall: thanks
[22:45] <unlink_> when i run `sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 stop` or any other service or action, invoke-rc.d simply returns to the prompt immediately and does not actually effect its command. what's going on?
[22:45] <orlandoj> lucas2: you need to change the file source.list
[22:45] <smithey93> lucas2: you need to go to system -> admin -> software sources and bin off the cdrom, then apt-get update/upgrade
[22:45] <robd> webtoe: cool
[22:46] <unlink_> (exit code 0 fwiw)
[22:46] <webtoe> robd: but parted might be better
[22:46] <smithey93> hey, anyone know why devede would make dvds that are like, not right
[22:46] <webtoe> robd: http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/manual/html_mono/parted.html
[22:46] <robd> webtoe: With parted I'm just trying to figure out how to get it to *not* touch the filesystem because it trashes NTFS
[22:48] <webtoe> smithey93: like how?
[22:48] <smithey93> vebtoe: its like black and the sounds muffled
[22:48] <testx> hi all
[22:48] <testx> is this a support channel ? |
[22:48] <Andrewm> what is the Virtual Machine similar to Vmware that Ubuntu supports?
[22:48] <webtoe> robd: hmmm that's probably something to do with parted's higher level nature. I'm not sure, but sfdisk should work though it can also really trash things good and proper if you bugger things up
[22:48] <smithey93> testx: yep, we support :)
[22:48] <spasticteapot> Does anyone know where Ubuntu puts the the Java Development Kit?
[22:48] <testx> thamks smithey93 well i just updated my machine again and i guess that i got something wrong here
[22:48] <webtoe> smithey93: how did you make the dvd?
[22:48] <Redian> Scunizi: FAIL xD
[22:49] <smithey93> webtoe: i just added the video file, made a menu and clicked go
[22:49] <Redian> Scunizi: Just figured I'd let you know XD
[22:49] <Smegzor> Can I delete .gconf?  Will Gnome rebuild it?  Do I need to be logged in as another sudoer first?
[22:49] <SilverDawn> anyone know of a good tool for doing id3 tagging
[22:49] <Andrewm> !vmware
[22:49] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[22:49] <webtoe> smithey93: sorry i asked a stupid quetion, did you check that the video was fine before you added it? and what programme did you use to make the dvd?
[22:49] <Andrewm> !virtualizers
[22:49] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[22:49] <Smegzor> By delete I mean rename :)
[22:49] <testx> both wireless and lan are not working anymore
[22:49] <Andrewm> VirtualBox,, got it
[22:50] <smithey93> webtoe: i used devede, the weird thing is, is that it works on my old pc but not my new
[22:50] <Scunizi> Redian, arg.. if she has a windows install cd she could boot to that and go to Recovery dos prompt and run chkdsk /r or chkdsk /R or chkdsk /f. I can't remember which looks at the drive and locks out bad sectors
[22:50] <jcornwall> Smegzor, it will be rebuilt, yes, but you might to log out and kill gconfd for it to do it
[22:50] <webtoe> SilverDawn: look in the repositories. There are quite a few. look using synaptic
[22:50] <webtoe> smithey93: are you trying to watch it through a tele?
[22:50] <testx> anyone one 2.6.24-15-generic ?
[22:50] <webtoe> testx: yes
[22:51] <Smegzor> jcornwall: so reboot and log in to a terminal session then do it?
[22:51] <smithey93> webtoe: yea, on my dvd player, ive tried it on meny, and it failed on all
[22:51] <Scunizi> Redian, while there she can also do a fixmbr and maybe boot back into windows.
[22:51] <testx> got any troubles after the update \/
[22:51] <testx> |
[22:51] <webtoe> testx: what wireless card are you using?
[22:51] <testx> dont know some kinda built in thing i guess intel 220
[22:51] <jcornwall> Smegzor, I'd just log out, Ctrl-Alt-F1 to delete it and then either kill gconf or reboot
[22:51] <testx> well the network manager looks strange  \:)
[22:51] <Smegzor> I'm trying to fix my wallpaper bug.  I can't change wallpaper but a new user I just created can.  Clearly its something amiss in gconf.
[22:51] <Redian> Scunizi: Burning at 4X, she does have one of those, but I don't know if I could take her through that. Not today at least...
[22:52] <jcornwall> you can also use gconf-editor to make finer grained changes
[22:52] <webtoe> smithey93: hmmm, that's something odd. I'm not sure about that dvd programme then. I was thinking maybe your tele didn't like the composite signal from your dvd playing equipment (as that can sometimes lead to black and white signals)
[22:52] <jrib> Smegzor: it's probably a permission issue.  Run: find ~/.* ! -user $USER
[22:52] <Smegzor> jcornwall: Yeah I've played with that but the bug remains
[22:52] <Scunizi> Redian, does she need windows?  if not blow it all away.. but ..sounds like she might be due for a new hd.. they're cheep.
[22:52] <smithey93> webtoe: do you know of any simlar software to do so? with my booting into windows because i binned off windows off my pc :)
[22:52] <Smegzor> I thought of that too, but I've only been a linux user < 1 year so hadn't figured out how yet.  thanks
[22:53] <webtoe> testx: what sort of strange? you are using a development release of ubuntu and it is slightly buggy
[22:53] <kindofabuzz> i need a proftpd guru! =)
[22:53] <testx> yeah well and i cant get it fixed i guess or i just dont know whats going on to some extent \\:P
[22:54] <webtoe> smithey93: Not off the top of my head! I have to admit I use a mac for that sort of thing. Never tried on Linux. I'm sure there probably is. Either google or look in the repositories for it maybe
[22:54] <uptownben> Hey all, If I remove my HDD from my laptop and plug in a USB stick I should be able to install 7.10 on the stick in a normal full install mode, right?
[22:54] <testx> i came from freebsd and most of my systems were current just like the dev editons here but not that buggy though
[22:54] <smithey93> webtoe: ill take a look, and google it etc, i want a mac :( i wouldnt mind a iMac =]
[22:55] <uptownben> If I have 2GB RAM in my machine, do I really need swap?
[22:55] <Redian> Scunizi: I'd like to convince her to make the full switch, but its like half of a family laptop, so thats another reason I was really intent on figuring this out.
[22:55] <webtoe> smithey93: Beware the iMac. Apparently the screens are pretty shitty compared to LCD's you can get cheap nowadays
[22:55] <Scunizi> Redian, so.. they each get their own account :)
[22:55] <webtoe> testx: Well we might be able to help. ubuntu+1 is apparently the place to be if you have problems with the latest test release
[22:55] <smithey93> webtoe: really? thanks for that, therefore ill get a mac mini, and just kvm it with my 22"
[22:56] <testx> thanks webtoe
[22:56] <webtoe> smithey93: Apparently. It was on www.theregister.co.uk the other day
[22:56] <smithey93> webtoe: interesting, i always thought macs hardware was real pro
[22:56] <webtoe> testx: there have been a few changes to the latest kernel to do with the way wireless is handled. Mine just broke too
[22:56] <Redian> Scunizi: I don't think I could convince them to move away from all the branded software...
[22:56] <Deamos> Allo folks
[22:57] <webtoe> smithey93: I'm a fanboy and I thought that too!
[22:57] <jcornwall> uptownben, you might occasionally burst into swap, and it's needed for things like hibernation - hard disk space is cheap
[22:57] <testx> well i got some kinda problem with my nvidia driver when i first updated the system
[22:57] <Redian> Scunizi: The problem is I essentially caused the crash of one of 2 necessary computers in the house.
[22:57] <testx> and fixed it using the nvidia beta driver..
[22:57] <lucas2> Sorry for being a bit thick here:   I just installed a fresh 7.10 server.  For the life of me, I can't find what package I need to apt-get to install xen.   ubuntu-xen-server is not found it says.   (running amd64)
[22:57] <Smegzor> jrib: I have two permissions problems so far.  What do I type to fix them? chmod? what number?
[22:58] <Scunizi> Redian, what an opportunity!  keep the software on there for a while and install FOSS versions.. for them to get use to ...So.. you're part of the family or only the enemy now? :)
[22:58] <webtoe> smithey93: but I think their iMacs are their cheaper version nowadays. the macbooks should be ok and you can use any lcd you like with their powermacs. And their horrendously expensive LCDS are oogd
[22:58] <jrib> Smegzor: do 'ls -ld /path/to/file' where /path/to/file is the path to one of the files and tell me the output
[22:59] <pharoh> which is better,anjuta or eclipse..for C programs?
[22:59] <Smegzor> hmm!  it keeps hitting .rnd and staying there for ages, then starting from the beginning.  Symlink Hell?
[22:59] <jrib> pharoh: it's personal preference
[22:59] <webtoe> testx: well the kernel that's used in the latest ubuntu has a nice new 802.11 stack working in it and not all the wireless card drivers play nicely with it yet. So that could explain why its a bit screwy. Without knowing what sort of card it is we can't help more thoguh
[23:00] <webtoe> pharoh: I use emacs, others swear by eclipse and my boss uses KDevelop at work
[23:00] <pharoh> jrib: but one has to be better..iy's only logical.u see i was using GCC to write en compile,but it never recognised #include<alloc.h>
[23:00] <Redian> Scunizi: Not sure, what's FOSS?
[23:01] <Smegzor> oh carp!  I need to re-run find and pipe it to a file :/
[23:01] <testx> webtoe, even the lan isnt working
[23:01] <Scunizi> Redian, maybe I should have said Opensource
[23:01] <Redian> Scunizi: Yep, wiki look up beat you to the explanation XD
[23:01] <jrib> pharoh: no, one might be better for *you*, because of *your* needs and *your* preferences.  Best thing to do is try both and use the one you like better
[23:02] <Redian> Scunizi: I'm gunna check this cd later if I have a chance...
[23:02] <kindofabuzz> anyone know there proftpd.conf? =)
[23:02] <Scunizi> Redian, I hope it works.
[23:02] <webtoe> testx: do you know what hardware is in your machine? You may have upgraded a little early if things worked before on the last ubuntu and the development is broken for you. Might be best asking in #ubuntu+1 for more help if that's what you're running
[23:02] <smithey93> webtoe: i love my lg 22" screen tbh
[23:02] <kindofabuzz> damnit why won't it lockdown?!?!
[23:02] <marlun> was there just a big update to ubuntu repositories?
[23:02] <jrib> Smegzor: if you know nothing in your home should not be owned by a user other than yours, you can just do 'sudo chown -R $USER: ~'  That ~ is very important, don't run this command in the wrong place
[23:02] <bean-oh> is there a channel specific to hardy?
[23:03] <testx> yeah i asked but no reply
[23:03] <kindofabuzz> soorry wrong channel
[23:03] <webtoe> testx: oh.
[23:03] <larson9999> my first born to the person who tells me how to make the smaller main menu button not have a lag like the default main menu doesn't have a lag.
[23:03] <n-iCe> how can I force an umount
[23:03] <unlink_> n-iCe: rebooting
[23:03] <iFire> Does anyone know how to solve https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/+bug/198803
[23:03] <webtoe> testx: well you might have to send a listing of your current hardware to the ubuntu pastebin
[23:03] <n-iCe> unlink_,  other way? I am in a installation game
[23:03] <pikeshouse88> what are the differences between the daily cd and the regular cd?
[23:04] <webtoe> can someone tell testx how to paste to pastebin please?
[23:04] <iFire> the bug says basiclly fglrx causes a black screen and crashes the computer
[23:04] <unlink_> n-iCe: why do you need to?
[23:04] <dda> please help with cups - when I open http://localhost:631/admin/ it fails, and in logs I see: [CGI] /usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/admin.cgi: Permission denied
[23:04] <n-iCe> change to the disco 2, unlink_
[23:04] <Smegzor> jrib: Is that the norm?  everything in my home being owned only by me?  I'll just run ﻿sudo chown -R $USER: ~ if thats the case.
[23:04] <unlink_> n-iCe: stop everything using the device
[23:04] <testx> yeah i know how to use it
[23:04] <n-iCe> ...
[23:04] <pharoh> jrib: there's just one thing i don't get...what is hello world?can i write a program without seeing it all the time?
[23:04] <n-iCe> how do I stop everything using the cdrom device???
[23:04] <webtoe> testx: ah good. Can you tell me your hardware then? sudo lspci -vv should do the job
[23:05] <jrib> Smegzor: yes
[23:05] <Smegzor> thanks
[23:05] <jrib> pharoh: hello world is a simple program so you can get your feet wet and see a simple example at work
[23:05] <testx> ok
[23:06] <testx> ill do that am checking something i shall do it in few minutes
[23:06] <pharoh> jrib: ahh.i'm new to linux,i used to use borland turbo C,so i know about C programming,but when i write a program using eclipse,they never seem to work!any idea why?
[23:07] <jrib> pharoh: I don't use eclipse, sorry
[23:07] <pharoh> jrib: oh..okay.thanks.
[23:07] <CJS3141> hmich: Are you still available to answer a Virtualbox question? Or is there anyone else who can answer a few virtualbox questions?
[23:07] <webtoe> testx: no worries. I'll be hanging around for a little bit yet
[23:07] <shoepainter> anyone good with raid
[23:07] <testx> k man thanks :)
[23:07] <jrib> CJS3141: it's better to just go ahead and ask the channel your questions, if someone knows, they will help
[23:07] <n-iCe> how do I stop everything using the cdrom device???
[23:08] <jrib> shoepainter: it's better to just go ahead and ask the channel your questions, if someone knows, they will help
[23:08] <mc-george> does anyone know how to increase the mouse wheel scroll number of lines?
[23:08] <webtoe> n-iCe: what do you mean everything? what are you trying to do and what goes wrong when you try and do it?
[23:08] <n-iCe> how do I stop everything using the cdrom device??? I am on a game installation it is asking me for the disc 2 but I can't umount,
[23:08] <n-iCe> Webspot,  im on a game installation and I need to change to the second disc
[23:09] <CJS3141> I have Ubuntu as a guest OS under Virtualbox on a Win XP machine... in order to share files between them, do I need to have a full installation of Vbox also installed under Ubuntu? Or is there special Vbox software just for sharing?
[23:09] <webtoe> n-iCe: its webtoe but nevermind. You can only umount something if you are no longer in the directory. Make sure you are not in the cdrom directory while trying to umount
[23:09] <Orbixx> hah
[23:09] <mc-george> does anyone know how to increase the mouse wheel scroll number of lines?
[23:10] <Gnea> CJS3141: just tell ubuntu to share certain directories
[23:10] <nixnoob> I setup evolution to send/recieve email from a hotmail account but im getting a Welcome response error: Operation now in progress?  how can I fix this?
[23:10] <n-iCe> webtoe,  I am not... :/
[23:10] <amenado> mc-george-> what does it mean by that scroll number of lines?
[23:10] <webtoe> mc-george: under what programme? firefox has its own options i think. Otherwise, gnome has a settings box under system -> preferences -> mouse i believe
[23:11] <CJS3141> Gnea: In ubuntu, i'm trying to mount a folder shared thru Vbox... not the other way around right now.
[23:11] <mc-george> webtoe: no option there
[23:11] <Gnea> CJS3141: are you able to view the windows system via the network/smb interface?
[23:11] <Tu13es> any ideas how to keep my macmini's ethernet from shutting down when I suspend or shutdown? I want to use WOL
[23:11] <mc-george> amenado: the number of lines the scroll wheel does
[23:11] <webtoe> n-iCe: so what is the error message that you're getting? is it wine that you're using?  What game you trying to install?
[23:11] <GIn> is tehre a photo's management software like the one on Vista but for Ubuntu?
[23:11] <shoepainter> OK I have a Fasttrack 475 raid that I want to mount, I used mdraid and mdraid says my other raid controller (INTEL) or "isw" is active on my raid harddrives, how do I active my promise fasttrack 374 raid or "pdc" instead?
[23:12] <webtoe> mc-george: what programme are you trying to alter?
[23:12] <Gnea> CJS3141: IOW, click on Places->Network->Windows Network->yada
[23:12] <mc-george> webtoe: firefox preferably, and idealy all apps
[23:12] <CJS3141> Gnea: Yes, I did that and there's nothing under windows network...
[23:12] <n-iCe> webtoe, yes the thing is, when I install using the terminal I can't umount if I install clicking the .exe installer I can, but when the installation has finished I can't run the .exe launcher game
[23:13] <n-iCe> it is flight simulator 2004
[23:13] <incugus> Hi, what software do you recommend for web development? (id like something like dreamweaver, ive tried quanta, its good, but i wanted to know if theres anything better)
[23:14] <Gnea> CJS3141: then you need to make sure that your XP box and ubuntu are on the same workgroup or domain
[23:14] <CJS3141> Gnea: OK, and how to do that?
[23:14] <rycole> hey guys, when i ctrl+z out of an application, and it says "[1]+  Stopped                 top", does this mean that app will stop running soon?
[23:14] <rycole> because i still see it in my processes list
[23:14] <budluva> how do i find out what version of a package is that i have installed
[23:15] <webtoe> n-iCe: I'm afraid I don't know enough about wine. Sorry. maybe thjey have an irc channel? Or someone else knows something more about it?
[23:15] <webtoe> mc-george: sorry, I doni't have a clue. I'm sure you can change this. But I'm not sure how
[23:15] <ompaul> !wine
[23:15] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[23:15] <Mifuyne> budluva, if it's a command, usually <command> --version would tell you
[23:15] <jrib> rycole: the app is stopped (paused).  hit 'fg' to bring it to the foreground.  Google 'bash job control'
[23:15] <JeffATL> booted to a livecd; want to mount an nfs export.  have started portmap, modprobed nfs - still i get "wrong fs type, bad option..." - anything i missed?
[23:15] <Mifuyne> or you could try looking it up in Synaptic...
[23:15] <jrib> budluva: apt-cache policy PACKAGE
[23:15] <n-iCe> webtoe,  just, how can I enforce a umount
[23:16] <shoepainter> I have a Fasttrack 475 raid that I want to mount, I used mdraid and mdraid says my other raid controller (INTEL) or "isw" is active on my raid harddrives, how do I active my promise fasttrack 374 raid or "pdc" instead?
[23:16] <webtoe> n-iCe: you can't. If it thinks you're using a directory it won't let you. Make sure there are no programmes using the cdrom directory
[23:17] <ompaul> JeffATL, mount -t nfs IPorNameOfServer:/SourceDirectoryAddress /TargetAddress
[23:17] <bastid_raZor> webtoe; a good website to check out.. may be useful in the future :: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto
[23:18] <CJS3141> Gnea: Thanks for your patience... how oo I make sure ubuntu and windows are in the same domain/workgroup?
[23:19] <patrick__> is there a way to downgrade from hardy to gutsy?
[23:19] <ryan-c> does anyone know why ubuntu sets nomodline for vim and how i can fix it?
[23:19] <ompaul> !downgrade | patrick__
[23:19] <ubotu> patrick__: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[23:19] <JeffATL> ompaul: i've got that; thanks.  that's the command that's failing.
[23:19] <ompaul> JeffATL, exact error?
[23:19] <patrick__> mk just wondering..too many glitches going on with hardy right now for me
[23:19] <testx> webtoe, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62570/
[23:20] <JeffATL> ompaul: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on 192.168.99.1:/home/jhubbs/distcc_farm_images,
[23:20] <JeffATL>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[23:20] <JeffATL>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[23:20] <JeffATL>        dmesg | tail  or so
[23:20] <FloodBot1> JeffATL: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:20] <shoepainter> any have a link to best way to install Compiz fusion on an Ati r300 or "9800 pro "computer
[23:21] <ompaul> JeffATL, too vague
[23:21] <webtoe> sorry, if anyone said somethign to me, you'll have to repeat it as I just got my net cut off
[23:21] <ompaul> JeffATL, no ideas so
[23:21] <testx> webtoe, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62570/
[23:21] <CJS3141> Gnea: the virtualbox manual talks about having to install "Virtualbox Guest Additions" within Ubuntu... Is that part of my problem? I haven't added any Vbox software in Ubuntu yet.
[23:22] <JeffATL> ompaul: based on your initial response, i gathered that.
[23:22] <JeffATL> :)
[23:22] <JoeRocchio> ho i pugni nelle mani
[23:22] <webtoe> testx: ok, just having a little look
[23:22] <webtoe> brb
[23:22] <testx> ;)
[23:23] <Alan> Is there an easy way to JUST rewrite the MBR?
[23:24] <Jaza> How do I install codecs on totem?
[23:24] <zcat[1]> Alan: rewrite it with what?
[23:24] <ogre> what is the name of package for recording desktop?
[23:24] <Alan> zcat[1], with what it should be after it gets messed with by something else
[23:24] <zcat[1]> !info recordmydesktop
[23:25] <ubotu> recordmydesktop (source: recordmydesktop): Captures audio-video data of a linux desktop session. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.4-1 (gutsy), package size 41 kB, installed size 124 kB
[23:25] <Jaza> can anyone help me installing codecs on totem to play dvd movies
[23:25] <Cyntrox> Um, how can I know if I use TwinView or Xinerama for my dual screens?
[23:25] <Cyntrox> </stupid question>
[23:25] <bastid_raZor> !codecs Jaza
[23:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codecs jaza - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:25] <zcat[1]> Alan: grub-install is about the easiest way I know..
[23:26] <bastid_raZor> !codecs | Jaza
[23:26] <ubotu> Jaza: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[23:26] <nickrud> !dvd | Jaza (install ubuntu-restricted-extras , then do this)
[23:26] <ubotu> Jaza (install ubuntu-restricted-extras , then do this): For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[23:26] <CloudFX> hi, im looking for assistance on running Hardy Heron beta and windows XP on a virtual machine on Ubuntu gutsy
[23:27] <Jaza> thanks
[23:27] <orange_> hello
[23:27] <Pici> CloudFX: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[23:27] <CloudFX> alright, thanks
[23:27] <nickrud> CloudFX #ubuntu+1 is handling hardy questions until release,  /j #ubuntu+1
[23:27] <webtoe> testx: Hmmm, it looks like they may have inconveniently broken the driver for your ethernet card in the latest release. I'm still looking at the google result
[23:27] <zcat[1]> Pici: 'running foo in a VM on Gutsy' is a Gutsy question, not a Foo question
[23:28] <prakriti> is there any way to set a default wireless network?
[23:28] <testx> thanks
[23:28] <Pici> zcat[1]: okay ;)
[23:28] <Kingflake> will i notice a differnce with 64bit?
[23:28] <zcat[1]> well, I'd have thought so anyhow
[23:28] <prakriti> my lappy keeps trying to connect to my neighbors access point
[23:28] <bastid_raZor> CloudFX; you'll need a program like VMWare first.. i use VMWare for several things..
[23:28] <webtoe> testx: have you tried googling for it at all? the Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8039?
[23:28] <testx> am trying out some stuff
[23:28] <KemrinH> I own a Dell XPS M1210 and my Disk Drive can't read or write CD's. Anyone have any suggestions?
[23:28] <Digitallifenow> Hey
[23:28] <testx> nopes
[23:28] <testx> ill now
[23:28] <nickrud> zcat[1] he's trying to run hardy, that's a hardy question by definition ;)
[23:29] <zcat[1]> and XP .. that's an XP question?
[23:29] <webtoe> testx: Its quite a new chip so the driver is slightly raw atm. I remember trying to get a simoliar marvell chip working a year ago and the driver for it was a bit bleeding edge and a bit shifty
[23:29] <tony_c> Can someone help me with how to instal an application in Edubuntu please?
[23:29] <testx> ohhh
[23:29] <Digitallifenow> I was wondering where I could find the linux codec dump code for the installed drivers in my system>
[23:29] <Digitallifenow> ?
[23:29] <zcat[1]> so it's only ontopic here if you want to run gusty on a VM inside gutsy?
[23:29] <Alan> zcat[1], grub-install was causing a problem :(
[23:30] <Alan> zcat[1], i'll do it the interactive-grub way
[23:30] <webtoe> testx: If you can't find a solution and the worst coems to the worst you can try looking at using ndiswrapper. Marvell are actually usaully quite good but due to the newness of your board I think the drivers are a little behind (I'm going purely on those specs you posted)
[23:31] <testx> aha
[23:31] <JeffATL> anyone know how to prepare an ubuntu-livecd-booted machine for mounting an nfs export?
[23:31] <testx> how about the ethernet \/
[23:31] <L_inf> where can I find abundant ubuntu hardy heron screenshots???
[23:31] <KemrinH> oh, it's worth mentioning that I run Ubuntu 7.10 on my XPS M1210 on which I would really appreciate if someone could give me a hint of how to get the Disk Drive to run/burn CD's in
[23:31] <webtoe> testx: that was the ethernet :P
[23:31] <zcat[1]> bloody kids have discovered that computer screens make 'rainbow colours' when yo wave strong magnets near them.... no amount of degaussing will fix this screen now I think
[23:31] <Digitallifenow> I was wondering where I could find the linux codec dump code for the installed drivers in my system? Would anyone know?
[23:31] <testx> hehehe
[23:31] <testx> ok
[23:31] <webtoe> testx: Looking at the wirelss now. though same applies, you can often get ndiswrapper to work when a native driver doesn't exist
[23:32] <JeffATL> zcat[1]: oooooh - may need a plug-in demagnetizer
[23:32] <rob42> In a 1Ghz Centrino system, what would the point be where adding more RAM won't boost the speed much?
[23:32] <zcat[1]> I think so.. or perhaps the flyback voltage is too high.. the colours on this monitor have always been a bit weird..
[23:32] <Digitallifenow> would it be in the driver section?
[23:33] <JeffATL> rob42: all depends on what you're doing on the box
[23:34] <BSG75> anyone know how I can minimize thunderbird to tray?
[23:34] <JeffATL> rob42: for regular email/browsing under KDE or Gnome, I'd say the improvement fall-away starts at ~512MB
[23:34] <orange_> hello
[23:34] <Digitallifenow> hHey orange
[23:34] <rob42> JeffATL: well, it's a tablet. gonna be used for general web surfing as well as a little drawing/sketching
[23:34] <orange_> ubunto smmes good
[23:34] <Digitallifenow> I can't find the drivers and I need to make a change to the code
[23:34] <orange_> first time use
[23:35] <JeffATL> rob42: nlt 512MB, i'd say
[23:35] <budluva> how do i find out what version of a package is that i have installed
[23:36] <orange_> how do u get dual screen support here in ubuntu
[23:36] <orange_> or isnt that posible
[23:36] <webtoe> testx: hmmm from what i've seen the chip should be supported. what version of ubuntu you using?
[23:36] <rob42> JeffATL: okay. hah i think i'm gonna be safe and for the extra £15 go for a gig
[23:36] <gfxfr33k> It ubunyu still 7.10?
[23:36] <zcat[1]> orange_: what video card?
[23:36] <BSG75> orange_: what video card you got?
[23:36] <gfxfr33k> sorry Ubuntu
[23:36] <testx> 8.4
[23:36] <orange_> asus
[23:36] <BSG75> asus what? ...
[23:36] <JeffATL> rob42: that would be great.
[23:36] <orange_> eax512
[23:37] <detedagowa> hey all
[23:37] <zcat[1]> reboot required ... seems I have a kernel update ..
[23:37] <orange_> asus eax 550hm512
[23:37] <BSG75> orange_: so a Radeon 9800 pro?
[23:38] <orange_> nope
[23:38] <Deamos> ugh...I wish I could update my damn nvidia drivers :P
[23:38] <webtoe> testx: the wireless could be due to the changes that have gone into the kernel for wireless. Maybe try asking in #ubuntu+1 (though I hear it may be deserted). I have only foudn people saying that things should work with that chip
[23:38] <bastid_raZor> budluva; sudo apt-cache policy packagename
[23:38] <lolinternet> !learn on
[23:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about learn on - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:38] <detedagowa> i have a question, i have a laptop with no operating system it only has a floppy drive no cd rom i was wondering if i could use my desktop to install a OS on the laptop through ubuntu
[23:38] <webtoe> testx: are there any error messages showoing up for the wireless when you run dmesg?
[23:38] <Deamos> damn envy installs the new drivers and then freezes up X on reboot
[23:38] <bastid_raZor> Deamos; envy was a very bad idea :(
[23:38] <testx> didnt check am in windows i am looking for a cheat
[23:39] <orange_> but i must say for now its better than windows
[23:39] <webtoe> detedagowa: this sort of install is called a net install. Is possible using debian and fedora so I assume ubuntu can too (since it is based of debian) google is your friend
[23:39] <askand> Hi, is someone else having problems with the bulitin forefox-totem player?
[23:39] <orange_> without lots driver installs it works
[23:39] <detedagowa> what would i google for to find this out?
[23:40] <bastid_raZor> !envy | Deamos
[23:40] <ubotu> Deamos: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[23:40] <webtoe> detedagowa: one sec. just looking
[23:40] <detedagowa> ok
[23:40] <detedagowa> A music messaging session has been requested. Please click the MM icon to accept.
[23:40] <Deamos> heh yah I realized that Ubotu :P
[23:40] <BSG75> orange_: we haven't had windows in our house for over 8 years now :) .. my wife will kill me if her computer goes down..
[23:41] <orange_> it started when i become to using open source
[23:41] <webtoe> detedagowa: look for net install ubuntu
[23:41] <orange_> en natural the next step is ...
[23:41] <detedagowa> ok
[23:41] <webtoe> should find loads of pages
[23:41] <detedagowa> i have to head out right now ill talk later guys, Peace
[23:41] <detedagowa> oh one question befor i leave
[23:41] <webtoe> detedagowa:
[23:41] <askand> Is someone here using the mozila-totemplugin?
[23:42] <webtoe> detedagowa: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2068.html
[23:42] <omax> ciao a tutti
[23:42] <BSG75> orange_: my advice is.. take it one step at a time .. there will be somethings about linux that drive you nuts in the beginning.. if you can stick through the limited learning curve.. I think you will find your experience very rewarding :)
[23:42] <detedagowa> do i need a OS on the other  computer to do it?
[23:42] <bastid_raZor> askand; i have no issues with it, have been using it for quiet sometime.. are you on running hardy or gutsy?
[23:42] <webtoe> detedagowa: yes, or you can use the ubuntu live cd, or just install over the internet
[23:42] <askand> ﻿bastid_raZor:  Im on gutsy still.. does this work for you? http://svt.se/content/1/c8/01/09/50/52/080326MANNISKA_ERT65T.asx
[23:43] <detedagowa> what do you mean install over the net? i have absolutely no ois on it right now you boot it is says no OS can be found can i still do a net install from one pc to another with no OS on the other one?
[23:43] <webtoe> detedagowa: installing over the internet is what i do with fedora at work and should work for ubuntu fine as well
[23:43] <bastid_raZor> askand; what is that suppose to be, first?
[23:43] <askand> ﻿bastid_raZor: streaming video
[23:43] <bastid_raZor> askand; of?
[23:43] <askand> ﻿bastid_raZor: from swedish television, nothing harmfull :)
[23:43] <chuy> askand: don't mean to jump in like this but it works for me
[23:43] <bastid_raZor> askand; heh.. okay.
[23:44] <askand> ﻿chuy: on gutsy?
[23:44] <Flannel> detedagowa: Assuming it can boot from a network, or from a CD, yes.
[23:44] <chuy> yes
[23:44] <detedagowa> ok
[23:44] <Flannel> !install | detedagowa
[23:44] <ubotu> detedagowa: Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[23:44] <bastid_raZor> askand; works for me too.. takes just a seconds or two to laod
[23:44] <webtoe> detedagowa: with the machine with no os, make a boot floppy install disk (i assume ubuntu still does these) and during the isntall it should ask you where to do the install from.
[23:44] <askand> ﻿bastid_raZor:  strange..
[23:44] <Flannel> detedagowa: that page (first link) has lots of creative ways, depending on what you have at your disposal
[23:44] <detedagowa> it gives me netwrok boot option from BIOS so i should be good fso far i gotta head out late for a meeting ill talk later guys thank you!
[23:44] <testx> webtoe, ill install windows 3.x
[23:45] <orange_> im going to try to learn ubuntu and some shell commands
[23:45] <cyka> yo peeps
[23:45] <webtoe> detedagowa: when it asks, point it to the internet to for its resources. As I said, I've only done this with fedora but I'm sure debian/ubuntu can do it too
[23:45] <webtoe> testx: !! Why windows 3.x?
[23:45] <cyka> how do it get KDE/ubuntu to allow me to login as root
[23:45] <Starnestommy> !root | cyka
[23:45] <ubotu> cyka: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[23:45] <cyka> need to do a dpkg --congfigure -a
[23:45] <Starnestommy> cyka: use sudo dpkg --configure -a
[23:45] <cyka> in a terminal Starnestommy?
[23:45] <cyka> says i need supervisor thingies
[23:46] <testx> stable
[23:46] <askand> ﻿bastid_raZor:  and you are on gutsy too?
[23:46] <testx> :)
[23:46] <webtoe> brb visiting the little boys' room
[23:46] <lewench> Anyone know how I can install the logitech 9000 Cam to ubuntu?
[23:46] <ForzaPalermo> hey guys anyone here good with phpmyadmin?
[23:46] <ForzaPalermo> i installed it from the repos
[23:46] <chuy> forzaPlamera: sure
[23:46] <ForzaPalermo> and it does not detect my jinzora database
[23:46] <ForzaPalermo> or any of them for that matter
[23:46] <ForzaPalermo> apache
[23:46] <ForzaPalermo> nothing
[23:46] <cyka> ah cool Starnestommy
[23:46] <bastid_raZor> askand; actually, it plays for a few seconds then stops.. no buffering or anything
[23:47] <chuy> Do you get a web page rendered when you try to his it in apache
[23:47] <bastid_raZor> askand; yes i run 7.10
[23:47] <dda> please help with cups - when I open http://localhost:631/admin/ it fails, and in logs I see: [CGI] /usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/admin.cgi: Permission denied
[23:47] <cyka> thanks
[23:47] <askand> ﻿lewench: I think it will work out of the box in hardy
[23:48] <Smegzor> yay!  I fixed my wallpaper bug :D  killing .gconf was the solution.
[23:48] <webtoe> back
[23:48] <askand> ﻿bastid_raZor: I see...have you tried other asx-files?
[23:48] <JeffATL> zcat[1]: just think - that particular bit of childhood fun is soon to be deprecated
[23:48] <Smegzor> Where is the setting to hide desktop icons?  I can't find it anywhere!
[23:48] <lewench> askand, I've never heard of hardy let me research that, thats for pointing me in the right direction
[23:48] <bastid_raZor> askand; i can't say that i have recently.
[23:48] <askand> ﻿lewench: hardy is next version of ubuntu, it will be released this month
[23:49] <lewench> Oh ok
[23:49] <timo> i cant wait to try hardy
[23:49] <webtoe> testx: let's not joke. My boss keeps telling me about the time how at his uni as an admin they got a lab of machines to boot a custom win 3.x over the network at teh same time in appox 15 secondes
[23:49] <askand> ﻿lewench: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4648277
[23:49] <lewench> askand, Oh ok. When installed hardy can I just "upgrade" from what I have now (gutsy) or do I need to do a format?
[23:49] <leon_pegg> timo I have been using hardy since alpha5 and have been very happy with it :D
[23:50] <timo> leon_peg please do me this one favour bro
[23:50] <JeffATL> web_knows: that's certainly possible, but can be filed with his story about greasing abacus rods
[23:50] <JeffATL> webtoe: : that's certainly possible, but can be filed with his story about greasing abacus rods
[23:50] <leon_pegg> timo: what would that be
[23:50] <testx> ;)
[23:50] <testx> heh
[23:51] <webtoe> JeffATL: abacus rods? sorry you've lost me. Unless you're attempting to make a joke about how old he is...
[23:51] <webtoe> and he's not *that* old...
[23:51] <webtoe> :P
[23:51] <timo> can you show me a screenshot of the volume control / mixer
[23:51] <leon_pegg> timo ok give me a secon
[23:52] <askand> ﻿lewench: I dont think you should install Hardy now since it is only beta.. when it is released you should be able to upgrade from gutsy
[23:52] <rycole> i'm running apache, and subversion using mod_dav_svn. ive got my subversion repository information inside a <Location> block in dav_svn.conf, but i'm getting a forbidden 403 error when i browse to it. both apache and the repository directory belong to the same user and group. any ideas?
[23:52] <timo> leon_pegg have you seen the vista one i was told it going to be updated in a drastic way .
[23:52] <askand> ﻿!hardy | ﻿﻿lewench
[23:52] <lewench> askand,  Ah ok upgrade is good. Will it prompt me to upgrade?
[23:52] <lewench> !hardy
[23:52] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[23:52] <leon_pegg> timo: no not seen the vista one
[23:52] <lewench> askand, Nice!
[23:53] <Smegzor> Where is the setting to hide desktop icons?
[23:53] <Fred_Sambo> !join #ubuntu-maine
[23:54] <Fred_Sambo> lol
[23:54] <Fred_Sambo> sorry
[23:54] <askand> ﻿Smegzor: In gconf-editor    /apps/nautilus/desktop
[23:54] <leon_pegg> timo : http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/1663/screenshotvolumecontrolyl1.png
[23:54] <timo> leon_pegg: http://beta.amanzi.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/WindowsLiveWriter/VistaFeatureFocusVolumeMixer_B40A/vista-mixer%5B1%5D.png
[23:55] <testx> webtoe, i gave up did you find anything |
[23:55] <jmdc> are there constraints on the filesystem of the boot partition?
[23:55] <webtoe> sorry, if people tried to talk to me. I crashed shit again, so say things again...
[23:55] <leon_pegg> timo: looks nice but most of the time I have no need to touch it in ether vista or ubuntu
[23:55] <timo> that a bit disappointing
[23:56] <budluva> how do i find out what version of a package is that i have installed
[23:56] <leon_pegg> timo: it looks boring but there is lots of things in hardy that improve on gutsy
[23:56] <budluva> or has anyone played around with fuppes?
[23:57] <budluva> i cant get it to ./configure as i dont have the correct sqlite3 package install, but i have the latest one install from repos
[23:57] <dimas_> wow...so stress i cant get an account for hotmail to work on evolution....can someone walk me through please?
[23:57] <nickrud> budluva apt-cache policy <pkg>
[23:57] <Flannel> budluva: a few ways.  apt-cache policy [package] is probably the easiest
[23:57] <webtoe> budluva: if you're compiling from source, you'll need to install the -dev packages
[23:57] <timo> leon_pegg:I see, that's what I was looking forward to. who know hardy is not out yet soooo
[23:58] <budluva> sqlite3 doesn't have dev packages
[23:58] <nickrud> jmdc what do you mean by constraints?
[23:58] <budluva> checking for SQLITE3... configure: error: Package requirements (sqlite3 >= 3.2) were not met:
[23:58] <budluva> No package 'sqlite3' found
[23:58] <leon_pegg> timo I have been helping test hardy since alpha1 its has been quite stable since alpha5 and in  it current state no really bugs left
[23:58] <budluva> and this is from apt-cache policy sqlite3
[23:59] <budluva> sqlite3:
[23:59] <budluva>   Installed: 3.4.2-1build1
[23:59] <nickrud> budluva install libsqlite3-dev
[23:59] <budluva> thanks nick
[23:59] <webtoe> budluva: livsqlite3-dev
[23:59] <webtoe> opps bit slow
[23:59] <CloudFX> hi.. i was in the process of installing vmware via terminal, when the window was accidentally closed.  now when i try to reinstall, i get an output telling me a previous version has already been installed, and to try to re-install
[23:59] <nickrud> with typo ;)