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sudobash | hey is there a way to run: route add default gw 192.168.1.1 to a xubuntu machine as root at startup? | 00:24 |
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sudobash | or is there a config somewhere i can can add the gateway to | 00:25 |
sudobash | the route | 00:25 |
sudobash | Hey LjL are you around? | 00:26 |
ere4si | you can set the gateway up in /etc/network/interfaces | 00:26 |
sudobash | thanks | 00:27 |
sudobash | how do you reset the config without having to restart? | 00:31 |
sudobash | or reinitialize | 00:32 |
ere4si | sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart in a terminal | 00:34 |
ere4si | sudobash: ^^ | 00:34 |
sudobash | awesome | 00:34 |
ere4si | :) | 00:34 |
sudobash | now it doesnt seem to work the same as route add default gw 192.168.1.1 | 00:40 |
sudobash | because that config doesnt let me ping google... but the route trick does | 00:40 |
sudobash | is there a way to run the route command at startup i have done it before for this time i have ran scripts at the startup of GDM | 00:41 |
sudobash | but just after the user logs would work if the script can run at root level | 00:42 |
sudobash | i had a screwed up installation once that would corrupt Xorg and also GDM so both had to be reinstalled through terminal but I managed to write a shell script to stop gdm right before it actually had a chance to corrupt anything and could run startx | 00:44 |
sudobash | but if i could run sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.1 to that it would work probably | 00:45 |
ere4si | you could put the script in /etc/rc2.d/rc.local | 00:45 |
sudobash | yeah thats it or /etc/rc.local right? | 00:45 |
sudobash | whats the difference? | 00:46 |
ere4si | no - /etc/rc2.d/rc.local | 00:46 |
ere4si | the user runlevel default is 2 | 00:46 |
sudobash | well it has to run as sudo but without a password | 00:47 |
sudobash | root | 00:47 |
sudobash | i mean | 00:47 |
sudobash | trying it now | 00:49 |
LetsGo67 | How do I remove PPPoEconf system changes? | 01:06 |
Stroganoff | LetsGo67: sudo apt-get purge pppoeconf | 01:08 |
Stroganoff | if this isn't enough, then i'm sorry for i dont know | 01:08 |
LetsGo67 | Stroganoff, qu'est-ce que cela fait? | 01:09 |
Stroganoff | english please | 01:09 |
LetsGo67 | What happens after running such a command? | 01:09 |
Stroganoff | pppoeconf gets uninstalled including all its config files | 01:09 |
LetsGo67 | Good, what about the "load this on startup" stuff? | 01:10 |
Stroganoff | depends on what you mean by stuff | 01:10 |
Stroganoff | you can change startup services with boot-up manager: sudo apt-get install bum | 01:10 |
LetsGo67 | It set up my computer to automatically run PPPoEconf on startup | 01:10 |
Stroganoff | did you do that manually? if so: revert it! ;D | 01:11 |
LetsGo67 | Ubuntu 8.04 is supposed to get Vista security? No, not manual. | 01:12 |
Stroganoff | vista security? what is this? | 01:12 |
Stroganoff | just purge pppoeconf and see how it goes | 01:12 |
LetsGo67 | What am I looking for in bum, anyways? | 01:12 |
Stroganoff | pppoeconf | 01:12 |
Stroganoff | are you kind of dumb or are you just pretending? | 01:13 |
LetsGo67 | Not there. | 01:13 |
Stroganoff | is there nothing with ppp? | 01:13 |
Stroganoff | have you purged already? than its gone. | 01:13 |
Stroganoff | congrats | 01:13 |
LetsGo67 | By "Vista security" I mean: instead of running an entire app as root, it is run at user, then later can be run as sudo. | 01:13 |
LetsGo67 | IE: synaptic and networks. | 01:14 |
Stroganoff | LetsGo67: that is default in unix since 1968 | 01:14 |
LetsGo67 | The "security"? | 01:14 |
TheSheep | you mean 'policykit' | 01:15 |
Stroganoff | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apparmor | 01:15 |
TheSheep | yes, hardy uses policykit | 01:15 |
Stroganoff | whatever dude | 01:15 |
LetsGo67 | Yes, it's due. :) | 01:15 |
Stroganoff | hehe | 01:16 |
LetsGo67 | There's this guy who wants an Ubuntu account with no password. Is that possible? | 01:16 |
TheSheep | LetsGo67: yes | 01:17 |
LetsGo67 | How, TheSheep? | 01:17 |
TheSheep | LetsGo67: just enable autologin | 01:17 |
TheSheep | actually, no, it will still have password, but he won't need it | 01:17 |
TheSheep | in the login window settings | 01:17 |
LetsGo67 | autologin, self-explanatory? | 01:17 |
Stroganoff | is it possible with multiple users in gdm, TheSheep? | 01:18 |
Stroganoff | like in xp where you just select a user? | 01:18 |
Stroganoff | i'm aware of autologin ONE particular user. | 01:18 |
LetsGo67 | That's what I'm talking about! :) | 01:18 |
Stroganoff | i'm just asking because i didnt use GDM in a long time | 01:18 |
TheSheep | Stroganoff: I'm not sure, I think it's not possible with gdm without some advanced black magic | 01:18 |
LetsGo67 | Mais où est donc AutoLogin? | 01:19 |
Stroganoff | wat? | 01:19 |
TheSheep | LetsGo67: the security tab | 01:19 |
TheSheep | LetsGo67: 'automatic login' | 01:20 |
TheSheep | LetsGo67: right at the top | 01:20 |
TheSheep | LetsGo67: in settings->login window settings | 01:20 |
LetsGo67 | Je ne vois pas ça dans Xubuntu. Il y a trop d'options sous Applications>Paramètres. | 01:20 |
TheSheep | LetsGo67: it may be in 'system' in some versions of xubuntu (can't remember which) | 01:21 |
LetsGo67 | Non, Xfce est trop simple et il y a plein de bogues. J'utilise 7.10 | 01:21 |
TheSheep | LetsGo67: just run 'sudo gdmsetup' from terminal | 01:21 |
LetsGo67 | Merci. | 01:22 |
TheSheep | LetsGo67: btw, je ne parle pas français ;) | 01:22 |
LetsGo67 | Alors comment comprends-tu!? | 01:23 |
Stroganoff | oui! | 01:23 |
TheSheep | LetsGo67: well, it's not that hard to guess :) | 01:23 |
LetsGo67 | "Activer la connexion automatique". Check that box, type an user... there ya go, Mr. I-don't-want-to-type-a-password! | 01:23 |
Stroganoff | and still you managed to find that little cecile | 01:23 |
TheSheep | cedille | 01:24 |
Stroganoff | k | 01:24 |
TheSheep | it's simple: compose , c | 01:24 |
Stroganoff | where can i find that compose key? | 01:24 |
LetsGo67 | He's so used to XP but his Firefox, Thunderbird and OpenOffice.org all run on Ubuntu. | 01:24 |
LetsGo67 | No but I didn't know this auto login thing it's hard to find it's not obvious. | 01:25 |
Stroganoff | haha he will never be able to open up the menu with winkey | 01:25 |
LetsGo67 | Winkey? | 01:25 |
TheSheep | Stroganoff: you can't by default, I have set CapsLock as compose, since I don't use it anyways | 01:25 |
Stroganoff | WIN-Key. | 01:25 |
Stroganoff | with that sad little logo | 01:25 |
TheSheep | LetsGo67: super | 01:25 |
LetsGo67 | Je teste ça, a+! | 01:25 |
Stroganoff | DIAMOND111 | 01:25 |
TheSheep | LetsGo67: shift, ctrl, super, alt | 01:25 |
TheSheep | (or meta, if one prefers, instead of alt) | 01:26 |
TheSheep | Stroganoff: Option "XkbOptions" "compose:caps" <-- enables compose key | 01:26 |
Stroganoff | TheSheep do you happen to know how much RAM is eaten (not cached) by xubuntu directly after login? | 01:26 |
TheSheep | Stroganoff: in your xorg.conf, under keyboard settings | 01:26 |
Stroganoff | k thx | 01:26 |
TheSheep | Stroganoff: on my installs about 70-80MB | 01:27 |
TheSheep | Stroganoff: but I have CUPS disabled, etc. | 01:27 |
Stroganoff | k | 01:28 |
TheSheep | it's possible to go lower, but I never bothered | 01:28 |
Stroganoff | with cups samba etc disabled i'm at 25-30mb | 01:29 |
TheSheep | nice | 01:29 |
Stroganoff | with my cli-script. | 01:29 |
Stroganoff | that is without desktop icons ^^ | 01:29 |
TheSheep | Stroganoff: no hal, gamin, dbus, etc? :) | 01:29 |
Stroganoff | and without network (wifi) manager :/ | 01:29 |
Stroganoff | WITH hal, gamin dbus thunar-volman etc. | 01:29 |
TheSheep | well, xfdesktop takes a lot of ram by itself | 01:29 |
TheSheep | especially with icons | 01:30 |
TheSheep | and some panel plugins too | 01:30 |
Stroganoff | it's that mcs-manager that i'm worriing about | 01:30 |
Stroganoff | im not using the panekl | 01:30 |
TheSheep | but I can't live without the clipman panel plugin | 01:30 |
Stroganoff | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=741631 | 01:30 |
Stroganoff | i just wanted to compare | 01:30 |
Stroganoff | there's "glipper", features a tray icon? | 01:31 |
TheSheep | Stroganoff: you are looking at the 'writable memory' stat, right? | 01:31 |
Stroganoff | maybe it's enough for your needs? | 01:31 |
TheSheep | no, I'm really used to how clipman does it | 01:31 |
Stroganoff | TheSheep, i'm looking at free+cache | 01:31 |
Stroganoff | just to be sure i use conky | 01:32 |
TheSheep | I actually use some really memory-hungry apps: gajim, sonata | 01:32 |
TheSheep | because I find them much more comfortable | 01:32 |
TheSheep | and because I have 2GB ram anyways | 01:33 |
Stroganoff | thats out of the question | 01:33 |
Stroganoff | my light weight desktop doesn't prevent you from using good apps ^^ | 01:33 |
TheSheep | python apps do tend to be well thought out and rapidly developed | 01:33 |
TheSheep | Stroganoff: I'd use gossip and gimmix instead, except they have terrible user interfaces :) | 01:33 |
Stroganoff | information overload... *explodes* | 01:34 |
TheSheep | a lightweight, fast web browser would be nice | 01:35 |
Stroganoff | firefox3 is getting lighter | 01:35 |
Stroganoff | opera is currently disabled due to flash | 01:35 |
Stroganoff | kazekahase is unusable | 01:35 |
Stroganoff | japanese just dont code right. | 01:35 |
Stroganoff | it's true! | 01:35 |
TheSheep | I know the market pretty well | 01:35 |
TheSheep | I actually even started writing my own, but given it up | 01:36 |
TheSheep | epiphany with webkit would be interesting | 01:36 |
mscdex | how can i stop x once i'm logged in to the desktop in hardy heron? | 02:05 |
mscdex | i tried "/etc/init.d/xdm stop" but it tells me command not found | 02:08 |
jcgrv06 | Hello. Anybody installed xubuntu on a ThinkPad 240? | 02:10 |
Stroganoff | jcgrv06 i'd imagine its slow | 02:34 |
Stroganoff | jcgrv06 you might be interested in my new mini ubuntu | 02:34 |
Stroganoff | its full featured but considerably faster than xubuntu | 02:35 |
Stroganoff | quite usable with 64mb ram | 02:35 |
Stroganoff | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=741631 | 02:35 |
Stroganoff | thats you best shot unless you wanna try gentoo | 02:36 |
Stroganoff | jcgrv06 give it a try | 02:40 |
jcgrv06 | Stragnoff, thanks, but performance isn't a problem. I'm using it right now and it's ok. I have a problem with the screen resolution. | 02:43 |
jcgrv06 | This card is 1024x768 capable (I get that in Windows 2000) but it won't go over 800x600 in xubuntu | 02:43 |
jcgrv06 | Got 320MB, memory isn't an issue | 02:44 |
Stroganoff | ok | 02:44 |
Stroganoff | sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg | 02:44 |
Stroganoff | will let you choose more resolutions | 02:44 |
jcgrv06 | I tried the reconfigure several times. I chose 1024x768 as one of the resolutions. I went from 24 to 16 in pixel depth, but 1024x768 doesn't show | 02:45 |
Stroganoff | have you tried xrandr? | 02:45 |
jcgrv06 | no | 02:46 |
Stroganoff | i doubt it would work with xrandr (or grandr) | 02:46 |
Stroganoff | what display driver are you using? | 02:47 |
jcgrv06 | the one xubuntu selected by default for the NeoMagic | 02:47 |
Stroganoff | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=257696 | 02:49 |
Stroganoff | first reply. | 02:49 |
Stroganoff | my icewm-desktop is still much faster :p | 02:50 |
jcgrv06 | Thanks, I'm trying it now. I have edubuntu for the children in an old PC. Just wanted to try xubuntu "as is" on this ThinkPad. | 02:51 |
Stroganoff | i will integrate edubuntu into my desktop later | 02:51 |
Stroganoff | it's gonna rock | 02:51 |
jcgrv06 | Thanks, Stroganoff. I'm restarting X now | 02:53 |
bassinboy | snort is not configuring, it hangs on something, is there anyway to remove it? | 03:41 |
DrIP | hello all! how can i make a command, open in a terminal window, at login? | 04:05 |
DrIP | ahh got it, thanks anyways | 04:06 |
charding | is the default package type for ubuntu .deb? | 05:14 |
n-iCe | hello why can't I see the title bar in my windows? | 05:22 |
n-iCe | hi | 05:22 |
n-iCe | how do I install icons themes? | 06:32 |
zoredache | !search themes | 06:37 |
ubotu | Found: eyecandy, launch-feedback, art, i-candy, wallpaper, changethemes, icandy, themes, theme, superkaramba | 06:37 |
zoredache | !themes | 06:37 |
ubotu | Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy | 06:37 |
n-iCe | thanks | 06:38 |
n-iCe | I tried to drag it but didn't work like on ubuntu | 06:38 |
n-iCe | :/ | 06:39 |
n-iCe | I don't have Click System → Preferences → Theme | 06:39 |
n-iCe | what why I am asking | 06:39 |
n-iCe | is there any way to open by terminal? | 06:39 |
n-iCe | zoredache, ?? | 06:43 |
n-iCe | welcome back | 06:45 |
n-iCe | I don't have Click System → Preferences → Theme | 06:45 |
n-iCe | is there any way to open it on the terminal? | 06:45 |
n-iCe | anyone online? | 06:57 |
ere4si | what options do you have in the settings manager? | 06:58 |
n-iCe | it is in spanish i have the lastest xubuntu version, do you? | 06:59 |
n-iCe | Could you tell me the ext location to translate it and look for it, please | 06:59 |
ere4si | n-iCe: if your using 8.04 the settings manager is where you change the theme - settings - settings manager - user interface | 07:03 |
n-iCe | ere4si, sorry | 07:15 |
ere4si | k | 07:16 |
n-iCe | where do I need to install the themes? | 07:16 |
ere4si | /usr/share/themes | 07:28 |
n-iCe | I can't grab the folder to that path | 07:32 |
n-iCe | :| | 07:32 |
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ere4si | try gksudo thunar /usr/share/themes | 07:57 |
ere4si | n-iCe: ^^ | 08:06 |
n-iCe | ok | 08:07 |
ere4si | n-iCe: get it working? | 08:09 |
n-iCe | well | 08:09 |
n-iCe | yes | 08:09 |
n-iCe | but I don't see the theme intalled in the themes administrator application | 08:09 |
n-iCe | it is not there o.O | 08:09 |
ere4si | n-iCe: logout and in | 08:16 |
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mckulk_ | i cant find supported tv cards by ubuntu. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport for looking suported tv card. do i have to look in multimedia sections? | 09:24 |
ablomen | mckulk_, youll have more luck looking at the mythtv wiki i think | 09:27 |
ablomen | they should have a big list of supported tuner cards over there | 09:27 |
ablomen | and *ubuntu should support all/most of them | 09:27 |
leche | why do i got 2 nm-applets started everytime, even if i kill 1... shouldnt the session manager recognize this? | 11:53 |
LetsGo67 | The wireless icon doesn't have two green bulbs anymore! | 12:03 |
LetsGo67 | It just says 0 bars even when it's not connected! | 12:04 |
LetsGo67 | What's wrong? | 12:04 |
LetsGo67 | The wireless icon doesn't have two green bulbs anymore! | 12:24 |
LetsGo67 | It just says 0 bars even when it's not connected! | 12:24 |
LetsGo67 | What's wrong? | 12:24 |
gabkdlly | hi | 12:25 |
LetsGo67 | Hi. | 12:25 |
LetsGo67 | Xubuntu is acting all weird! | 12:26 |
gabkdlly | i'm sorry :( | 12:26 |
gabkdlly | maybe there are no wireless access points in your immediate vacinity? | 12:26 |
gabkdlly | the more specific you can be about your problems, the more likely it is that someone in the channel will be able to help you | 12:29 |
LetsGo67 | There is. | 12:46 |
LetsGo67 | Thanks anyways. | 12:46 |
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gynterk | any ideas about Apacer AS820 mp3 player? | 14:55 |
gynterk | Philips GoGear for example works fine, but after connecting miniusb<->usb cable to AS820 it doesn't auto-mount it | 14:55 |
gynterk | anyone? | 15:01 |
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jcgrv06 | Hello. Has anybody here installed xubuntu on a ThinkPad 240? | 15:58 |
maxamillion | not i | 15:59 |
The-Kernel | ASk your question anyways jcgrv06 | 16:01 |
The-Kernel | We may be able to still help you. | 16:01 |
jcgrv06 | I installed xubuntu last weekend. I have now dual boot w/W2K. This laptop has a 10.4" screen, 800x600 is native but is capable of 1024x768. I can scroll in Windows just by moving the cursor towards the border. | 16:02 |
jcgrv06 | xubuntu only allows 800x600. I have reconfigured X, set pixel depth to 16 from 24 and added 1024x768 as a valid resolution, but didn't help. | 16:03 |
jcgrv06 | I haven't tried an external monitor yet, but it'd be nice if it behaved like in W2K | 16:03 |
The-Kernel | what driver is installed, and what video card do you have? | 16:04 |
Iskr | does the video card use shared memory? | 16:04 |
jcgrv06 | Driver is the default one for NeoMagic 128 | 16:04 |
jcgrv06 | No, videocard has 2MB dedicated | 16:04 |
Iskr | ongly 2mb? | 16:04 |
Iskr | maybe it needs more | 16:04 |
The-Kernel | haha | 16:04 |
Iskr | try to assign more memory | 16:04 |
The-Kernel | hey, 2 mb works. | 16:04 |
Iskr | well in my case it needed 16 mb | 16:05 |
The-Kernel | I'm using abotu that much right now | 16:05 |
Iskr | to show 1024x768 | 16:05 |
jcgrv06 | no, there is no way to assign more memory. 1024x768 + 16M is possible in Windows | 16:05 |
jcgrv06 | Probably this is a limitation in xubuntu | 16:05 |
The-Kernel | jcgrv06 have you looked in the BIOS? | 16:05 |
Iskr | jcgrv06, it is possible | 16:05 |
Iskr | i did it | 16:05 |
jcgrv06 | Same BIOS lets me boot in W2K w/1024x768 | 16:06 |
Iskr | TheSheep, | 16:06 |
Iskr | how it was that command | 16:06 |
Iskr | for reconfiguring X? | 16:06 |
The-Kernel | sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver | 16:06 |
jcgrv06 | sudo dpkg-reconfigure xconf.org-server | 16:06 |
jcgrv06 | :) | 16:06 |
The-Kernel | or xserver-xorg | 16:06 |
The-Kernel | can't ever remember which one it is | 16:07 |
jcgrv06 | I tried several times. I need to try with an external monitor | 16:07 |
jcgrv06 | 800x600 is too limited, I can't see the Apply / Cancel buttons sometimes | 16:07 |
ablomen | xserver-xorg | 16:08 |
ablomen | ah The-Kernel already said that, didnt read that ;) | 16:08 |
jcgrv06 | yes, I went through the motions, messing up the settings (it defaulted to Alsa) and manage to put it the way it was. | 16:08 |
The-Kernel | I don't know about you, but the command sudo dpkg-reconfigure xconf.org-server doesn't even work for me | 16:09 |
Iskr | maybe it's this! | 16:09 |
Iskr | =D | 16:09 |
The-Kernel | jcgrv06 did you assign it 16 mb of memory? | 16:09 |
jcgrv06 | no, I didn't. But again, Windows drivers allow me to scroll around with 2MB. You need 1024x768*2 bytes = 1,572,864 bytes = 1.5MB | 16:14 |
Iskr | well | 16:16 |
Iskr | maybe more video memory is necessary for other reasons | 16:16 |
Iskr | and maybe windows assigns it wighout letting you knwo | 16:16 |
jcgrv06 | no, because 1024x768 is unavailable if you go to 24 pixel depth | 16:17 |
jcgrv06 | that'd go over 2MB | 16:17 |
TheSheep | jcgrv06: you can enable scrolling by adding the 'virtual' option to your xorg.conf | 16:22 |
TheSheep | jcgrv06: see 'man xorg.conf' for details | 16:22 |
jcgrv06 | Thanks, TheSheep. I will try that | 16:27 |
jcgrv06 | Also, I'm getting approx. half the speed with my wireless card. | 16:28 |
jcgrv06 | than with Windows. Perhaps I should use ndiswrapper to wrap the Windows driver? | 16:28 |
TheSheep | no idea | 16:29 |
jcgrv06 | has anybody compared xubuntu's desktop performance with other ubuntu derivatives? | 16:32 |
TheSheep | jcgrv06: how wuld you measure that? | 16:35 |
TheSheep | jcgrv06: the computational performance is identical, as they are based on the same core | 16:35 |
jcgrv06 | Overall responsiveness. Boot time, time it takes to open File Manager and navigate | 16:36 |
n-iCe | how do I update my video drivers?? | 16:36 |
TheSheep | n-iCe: except for some proprietary drivers, they are all shipped with the kernel/xorg | 16:41 |
TheSheep | n-iCe: so they are updated with the whole system | 16:41 |
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jcgrv06 | One thing I missed right away w/Thuran was the search capability and Recent documents. It seems it's only available from the open / save as dialog box. Am I missing something? | 16:44 |
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TheSheep | jcgrv06: you can add the 'places' plugin to have a list of recent documents | 16:45 |
TheSheep | jcgrv06: search is done with separate programs, like catfish | 16:45 |
jcgrv06 | Thanks, TheSheep | 16:46 |
jcgrv06 | That's why I was asking about the performance difference between xubuntu & edubuntu, for example. edubuntu comes with it already, but it uses the gnome desktop manager | 16:47 |
TheSheep | jcgrv06: yeah, Nautilus is pretty bloated with features | 16:53 |
n-iCe | can someone help me? | 16:55 |
n-iCe | Where do I get themes and how do I install them? | 16:55 |
TheSheep | n-iCe: try http://xfce-look.org | 16:55 |
TheSheep | n-iCe: you unpack them to the .themes directory in your home | 16:56 |
n-iCe | I downloaded one, but I couldn't get it work :< | 16:56 |
n-iCe | The-Kernel, that's all? | 16:56 |
TheSheep | create this directory if it doesn't exist yet | 16:56 |
TheSheep | yes, after that the theme should appear in the user interface settings or window manager settings, depending on what kind of theme it is | 16:56 |
n-iCe | how do I remove a program? | 16:59 |
n-iCe | apt-get remove program ? | 16:59 |
TheSheep | yes, or use synaptic | 16:59 |
n-iCe | thanks | 16:59 |
n-iCe | TheSheep, I did but the program folder is still there | 17:01 |
n-iCe | :| | 17:01 |
TheSheep | program folder? | 17:02 |
n-iCe | rm -r ~/.wine did the trick | 17:02 |
TheSheep | you should have said you meant a windows program installed with wine | 17:03 |
TheSheep | now run winecfg to recreate it | 17:03 |
n-iCe | TheSheep, Ok thanks | 17:06 |
n-iCe | Now, how do I open a folder with root privileges? | 17:06 |
n-iCe | Because I can¡t extract the icon theme to the themes folder :\ | 17:06 |
n-iCe | by the way it is on /usr/shared/themes is it correct TheSheep ? | 17:06 |
TheSheep | n-iCe: icon themes are stored in .icons in your home directory or in /usr/share/icons | 17:11 |
TheSheep | n-iCe: you shouldn't modify the global ones, juts make a copy in your home | 17:12 |
TheSheep | all your changes would be lost on update | 17:12 |
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n-iCe | I can't create a folder on home | 17:13 |
TheSheep | n-iCe: you can't create a directory in your own home directory? | 17:14 |
TheSheep | how so? | 17:14 |
n-iCe | the "create folder" is like blocked in grey | 17:14 |
TheSheep | what's the error? | 17:14 |
TheSheep | n-iCe: your home directory is /home/yourusername | 17:15 |
n-iCe | ooh I thought just /home/ | 17:15 |
n-iCe | Ok done, do I need to name it: .icons , right? | 17:15 |
n-iCe | thanks | 17:17 |
n-iCe | worked | 17:17 |
n-iCe | TheSheep, I see in my menu a submenu called others, where can I find it on the terminal, what's the path any ideA? | 17:39 |
n-iCe | I can't eject my cdrom, says error, how can I force it????? | 18:07 |
zoredache | is it still mounted? it anything using files on the drive? | 18:08 |
n-iCe | I don't think so | 18:09 |
n-iCe | I can't unmount | 18:09 |
zoredache | I have found on many occasions that thunar seems still be using something even if there are no open windows.... | 18:09 |
n-iCe | says it is busy | 18:09 |
n-iCe | how can I stop it? | 18:10 |
zoredache | I usually do a 'killall Thunar' | 18:10 |
n-iCe | killall Thunar ? | 18:10 |
zoredache | at a terminal or in a 'alt-f2' run prompt | 18:10 |
n-iCe | zoredache, ok I rebooted | 18:25 |
zoredache | ah, well that must have solved it | 18:26 |
n-iCe | Grr but when I try to install the game, and ask me for the disc number to the same, I can't reject the disc number 1 :< | 18:28 |
n-iCe | any idea on what to do? | 18:29 |
n-iCe | is back | 18:51 |
* Stroganoff too | 18:51 | |
n-iCe | rebooting, brb | 19:16 |
Banan_wii | hey | 19:30 |
gaurdro | hello | 19:30 |
Banan_wii | i cant install themes ... :/ | 19:30 |
Banan_wii | simple problem | 19:30 |
Banan_wii | i tried ~/.themes adn /usr/share/themes | 19:31 |
Banan_wii | wheeeere to put that ****** package? | 19:31 |
gaurdro | where are you installing themes from? | 19:32 |
Banan_wii | xfce-look.org | 19:33 |
Banan_wii | so? | 19:33 |
Banan_wii | i got package tar.gz | 19:35 |
Banan_wii | unpacked | 19:35 |
Banan_wii | and i have folder with lots of *.xpm | 19:36 |
Banan_wii | and 1 themerc file | 19:36 |
Banan_wii | its good theme folder? | 19:36 |
Banan_wii | plz help | 19:37 |
Banan_wii | hey guys any1 there ?? i have xubuntu 6.06 LTS | 19:37 |
zoredache | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=227416&highlight=xfce+xubuntu | 19:37 |
zoredache | !patients | 19:37 |
ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about patients - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 19:37 |
Banan_wii | http://www.xfce-look.org/content/show.php/NNM-NG?content=60643 | 19:38 |
Banan_wii | i want this | 19:38 |
gaurdro | in 7.10 it is /usr/share/themes/ | 19:38 |
zoredache | !patience | 19:39 |
ubotu | The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines | 19:39 |
Banan_wii | i have folder /usr/share/themes | 19:39 |
Banan_wii | there are other themes | 19:39 |
gaurdro | make sure you can write to the directory you're putting the themes in. | 19:39 |
Banan_wii | i unpacked it into this folder from root | 19:39 |
gaurdro | look at the contents of themerc, it may contain information about what themes are installed or give a hint as to what to do to get xubuntu to recognize the themes. | 19:40 |
gaurdro | it may be as simple as <ctrl>-<alt>-<Backspace> | 19:40 |
Banan_wii | hmm i think i know what might be the prob | 19:41 |
Banan_wii | give me 5 sec i will write result | 19:41 |
Banan_wii | ... | 19:43 |
Banan_wii | ok | 19:47 |
Banan_wii | it works | 19:47 |
Banan_wii | thx for all | 19:47 |
gaurdro | and your solution was? | 19:47 |
Banan_wii | do it carefully | 19:47 |
Banan_wii | and <ctlr><alt><bksp> | 19:48 |
gaurdro | ... | 19:48 |
Banan_wii | :D | 19:48 |
gaurdro | now a question, do you know what <ctlr><alt><bksp> actually does? | 19:48 |
Banan_wii | yes | 19:48 |
Banan_wii | it resets graphical interface and session | 19:48 |
gaurdro | yes, the underlying command to it is to restart the xserver. | 19:49 |
Banan_wii | hehe | 19:50 |
Banan_wii | but u know whats the most phunny thing? | 19:50 |
Banan_wii | i figured out that i want to change UI rather than theme :] | 19:51 |
Banan_wii | they are hard to tell apart from newbie :) | 19:51 |
Banan_wii | BTW how to add new icons? | 19:54 |
Banan_wii | is there /icons/ folder? | 19:54 |
gaurdro | there's a wonderful command for searching from the terminal. | 19:54 |
gaurdro | to index the computer you type 'sudo slocate -d' | 19:55 |
gaurdro | the to search for something type 'sudo slocate anything' | 19:55 |
gaurdro | you may have to install it using apt-get. | 19:55 |
Banan_wii | hey -d dont work | 19:55 |
gaurdro | oops, sorry it's -u. | 19:55 |
zoredache | you shouldn't need to use sudo to search for something... | 19:55 |
Banan_wii | ok indexing | 19:56 |
gaurdro | slocate checks permissions and won't display anything you can't get to, on my computer it won't display anything I can't write to. | 19:56 |
gaurdro | and you need it to run the drive indexing regardless of how it's setup. | 19:57 |
Banan_wii | WoW !! | 19:57 |
Banan_wii | its really fast | 19:57 |
Banan_wii | gr8 tool | 19:57 |
Banan_wii | BTW is "sudo thunar" safe? | 19:59 |
zoredache | !enter | 19:59 |
ubotu | Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation! | 19:59 |
Banan_wii | ok | 20:00 |
zoredache | it is as safe as the user behind it. You can completely trash your OS with a single incorrect operation | 20:00 |
Banan_wii | but not really unsafer than su -? | 20:01 |
zoredache | it is all the same really... su, sudo, gksu, whatever you are running will have root permissions (unless you specified something else) | 20:02 |
Banan_wii | kk | 20:03 |
Banan_wii | another question | 20:03 |
Banan_wii | is it needed to do CTRLALTBKSP after copying new fonts to see it? | 20:03 |
gaurdro | probably, I think the xserver only reads the font directory on startup | 20:04 |
Banan_wii | so yes? | 20:04 |
Banan_wii | hmm i can see it in openoffice | 20:05 |
gaurdro | I dunno, I would open openoffice and see if it can see the new fonts | 20:07 |
Banan_wii | i need them for system ... | 20:13 |
Banan_wii | its still /usr/share/fonts/? | 20:13 |
TheSheep | Banan_wii: you need to put them into the .fonts directory in your home and run 'fc-cache' in terminal | 20:20 |
Banan_wii | it cant be /usr/share/fonts? | 20:20 |
TheSheep | it can | 20:21 |
Banan_wii | ok | 20:21 |
Banan_wii | thx | 20:21 |
TheSheep | but it's not nice to have to run root commands every time you want to add a font | 20:21 |
Banan_wii | why? | 20:21 |
Banan_wii | np for me | 20:22 |
TheSheep | every time you run a command as root a little penguin dies ;) | 20:22 |
gaurdro | /usr/share/* is generally for system wide things but if you only have a single user equivalent folders are in your home directory. | 20:22 |
Banan_wii | :D | 20:22 |
TheSheep | no eally, you will make a mistkae one time and break your system | 20:22 |
Banan_wii | omg what a cool text :) | 20:22 |
Banan_wii | hmm i must think about sort of Time Machine then :D | 20:23 |
TheSheep | sorry, tired | 20:23 |
Banan_wii | hey which is the name of first usb mass storage? | 20:24 |
Banan_wii | and whats the name of FAT if i want to use mount -t? | 20:26 |
Banan_wii | oh drop it then i will just run winXP ... still left on my HD | 20:27 |
Banan_wii | bye | 20:27 |
gaurdro | I'm soo glad my testing machine has an excellent internet connection, I've averaged 100 updates per day running hardy beta. | 20:37 |
Annirak | How do I determine which update is requiring a reboot before I reboot? | 20:53 |
PsynoKhi0 | you should get a message when you need to | 20:54 |
PsynoKhi0 | the orange update icon turns into 2 round arrows | 20:54 |
PsynoKhi0 | usually, only kernel updates | 20:54 |
Annirak | PsynoKhi0: I know that I need to restart. But I want to know what caused it. | 20:55 |
PsynoKhi0 | oh oops | 20:55 |
PsynoKhi0 | WHICH udpate | 20:55 |
Annirak | Kernel and libc updates normally, I know. | 20:55 |
PsynoKhi0 | ok read too fast, as usual... | 20:55 |
Annirak | Eh, happens | 20:55 |
PsynoKhi0 | Annirak: yup... only unusually often in my case :| | 20:57 |
PsynoKhi0 | some language files can do that too | 20:57 |
TheSheep | Annirak: you don't have to reboot after the update | 20:58 |
TheSheep | Annirak: it just won't take effect unti you do | 20:58 |
Annirak | TheSheep: Ok, but how do I see a list of packages which are calling for the restart? | 20:58 |
TheSheep | Annirak: I don't think you can easily | 20:59 |
theron | from the live CD, is there a CLI installer that I can use after the cd has booted up? | 20:59 |
theron | I can't seem to get X running on the live cd. | 20:59 |
TheSheep | theron: no, use the alternate cd for that | 20:59 |
theron | TheSheep: ok thx. | 20:59 |
x9x | hi | 21:07 |
TheSheep | hello x9x | 21:09 |
x9x | are there a page somewhere that lists what components xubuntu is made of? | 21:10 |
x9x | hi TheSheep | 21:10 |
x9x | more detailed than that is use xfce4 instead of gnome ? | 21:11 |
TheSheep | x9x: you can look at the deps of the xubuntu-desktop package at packages.ubuntu.com | 21:12 |
TheSheep | x9x: that's 1st hand info | 21:13 |
TheSheep | x9x: it changes from version to version | 21:13 |
x9x | aha | 21:15 |
slimjimflim | hi, wondering if anybody knows anything about audio not working w/ adobe flash player | 21:23 |
slimjimflim | it's really starting to become a drag | 21:24 |
x9x | hmm... how do I do that? when I search for xubuntu-desktop in the packages.ubuntu.com webpage I get to http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/xubuntu-desktop | 21:25 |
x9x | am I at the right place then? | 21:25 |
zoredache | x9x: yes | 21:25 |
x9x | ok | 21:25 |
slimjimflim | ....tried reinstalling flash and it happens on konqueror too | 21:26 |
slimjimflim | and my mixer | 21:26 |
slimjimflim | xfce-mixer or something | 21:26 |
x9x | ...and the packages with the red dot ("beror" in swedish) is the deps? | 21:27 |
x9x | is there a way to see that page in english btw? | 21:27 |
slimjimflim | altavista.com can translate, x9x | 21:27 |
zoredache | x9x: it is in english (for me), I suspect you may need to set the language in your browser | 21:28 |
x9x | oups.. I found a link to english at the bottom of the page :-} | 21:28 |
zoredache | x9x: yes, the red dot indicates required packages | 21:30 |
x9x | the green ones, "recommends" is allso installed when I install xubuntu I guess? | 21:30 |
zoredache | it depends on how you install, but yes you usually get the reccomended packages as well | 21:31 |
x9x | something that whould be very nice is a table that compares xubuntu with fluxbuntu and normal ubuntu | 21:31 |
x9x | aha | 21:32 |
slimjimflim | what's fluxbuntu? | 21:32 |
gaurdro | a flavor of ubuntu that uses fluxbox as it's window manager. | 21:33 |
zoredache | I suspect that table would be really long, but it wouldn't be very hard to generate with a little scripting... | 21:33 |
x9x | is is supposed to need less memory than xubuntu. | 21:33 |
slimjimflim | ya, that's what it looks like from the fluxbox wiki | 21:34 |
x9x | zoredache : yeah I guess a ubuntu-xubuntu side-by-side page should be somewhat easy to make with scripts. but I don't know if fluxbuntu have these kind of info | 21:35 |
zoredache | sure, it should be available just as easily | 21:35 |
x9x | btw, ehat do xubuntu do If I try do run it on a computer with too little memory? say only 100Mb... do it try anyway or protest? | 21:36 |
x9x | *what | 21:36 |
zoredache | you might have to use apt-cache to get get your lists, but all the information is easily available | 21:36 |
x9x | ok | 21:36 |
x9x | oh.. now it is time for tea. see you later. | 21:36 |
zoredache | some services may not start, and you would probably get a huge ammount of disk thrashing from swap | 21:37 |
asker | does anyone know where the X settings in failsafe are stored? | 21:44 |
asker | I have looked in the Xorg.conf and all the hidden files. but I cant find it anywhere. | 21:46 |
asker | the reason I ask is because the HW acceleration works like a charm in failsafe, but not any other login options. | 21:47 |
zoredache | you might try a locate xorg.conf | 21:48 |
asker | ok | 21:48 |
asker | /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum | 21:48 |
asker | /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.roster | 21:48 |
asker | /usr/share/man/man5/xorg.conf.5.gz | 21:48 |
asker | /usr/share/xresprobe/xorg.conf | 21:48 |
asker | /usr/share/displayconfig-gtk/xorg.conf.fallback | 21:48 |
asker | /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20071209155839 | 21:48 |
asker | /etc/X11/xorg.conf.fglrx-0 | 21:48 |
asker | /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20080218100846 | 21:48 |
asker | /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20071209172612 | 21:48 |
asker | /etc/X11/xorg.conf.1 | 21:48 |
asker | /etc/X11/xorg.conf.deb | 21:49 |
zoredache | !pastebin > asker | 21:49 |
asker | /etc/X11/xorg.conf.new | 21:49 |
asker | /etc/X11/xorg.conf.reconfigure | 21:49 |
asker | /etc/X11/xorg.conf.what | 21:49 |
asker | /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20071203193142 | 21:49 |
asker | /etc/X11/xorg.conf~ | 21:49 |
asker | /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20071209160239 | 21:49 |
asker | /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 21:49 |
asker | /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20071209155810 | 21:49 |
asker | /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20071209155918 | 21:49 |
asker | ok | 21:49 |
asker | 1 sec | 21:49 |
asker | !pastebin | 21:49 |
ubotu | pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) | 21:49 |
zoredache | do that again... anyway look ath the filenames... on looks like it may be the failsafe | 21:49 |
asker | ok | 21:50 |
zoredache | don't* I mean... | 21:50 |
asker | i know | 21:51 |
slimjimflim | to continue what i was saying before about flash audio not working, here's an error i get when i run firefox->youtube as root from a shell: | 21:54 |
slimjimflim | ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:864:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave | 21:54 |
slimjimflim | any ideas? | 21:54 |
gaurdro | try not running it as root | 21:54 |
slimjimflim | guardro, it does the same for an unpriv. user | 21:57 |
slimjimflim | i was just doing that b/c i only get the error as root | 21:57 |
slimjimflim | i'm assuming it's the same error, just not being printed to std out | 21:57 |
gaurdro | maybe, maybe not, a lot of program complain when they're run from root. Alsa may be one of these (I'm not sure). | 21:58 |
gaurdro | how did you install flash? | 21:58 |
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j1 | Hi, everybody (particulary Stroganoff), I've something stupid but potentially useful to tell: The default shortcut key for the "popup menu" (Applications menu) in xfce is ctrl-esc. It didn't work for me, except in some rare occasions. I've been suffering from that for moths. Now I discovered the trick: the esc key has to be pressed in a very short flash on my laptop (toshiba A50), otherwise it repeats the esc, and hides the menu so | 22:36 |
Stroganoff | lol | 22:37 |
PsynoKhi0 | besides /etc/init.d/networking restart, dhclient, and ifconfig, what toys do I have to get my roaming mode wired connection to work when I plug the cable after logging in Xubuntu? | 22:38 |
TheSheep | !wifi | 22:38 |
ubotu | Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs | 22:38 |
PsynoKhi0 | ? | 22:38 |
TheSheep | ah, sorry, misread | 22:38 |
crimsun | PsynoKhi0: networt-manager | 22:38 |
PsynoKhi0 | :) | 22:38 |
crimsun | network, of course | 22:39 |
PsynoKhi0 | crimsun: through the applet? | 22:39 |
crimsun | PsynoKhi0: sure. | 22:39 |
PsynoKhi0 | tried manual configuration > dhcp... do the 3 fields below that need to be filled accordingly? | 22:39 |
Stroganoff | yeah "slim" eats the double amount of ram as xdm does | 22:43 |
Stroganoff | but xdm is broken in hardy | 22:43 |
Stroganoff | crap | 22:44 |
crimsun | PsynoKhi0: you shouldn't use manual configuration if you want "roaming" for wired. | 22:48 |
crimsun | PsynoKhi0: (it's akin to setting the ifaces through /etc/network/interfaces, which disables network-manager's handling of those ifaces) | 22:48 |
PsynoKhi0 | crimsun: probably not... however roaming mode isn't very cooperative if I plug in the network cable once logged in xubuntu | 22:49 |
PsynoKhi0 | I get no IP address | 22:49 |
crimsun | PsynoKhi0: hmm, that hasn't been my experience. If you tail -F /var/log/daemon.log, do you see dhclient at work for that iface? | 22:50 |
TheSheep | PsynoKhi0: check your dhcp server's logs | 22:51 |
PsynoKhi0 | brb | 22:54 |
cody-somerville | maxamillion, add -devel to your autojoin ;] | 23:21 |
maxamillion | cody-somerville: i don't have an autojoin | 23:22 |
maxamillion | just not used to typing -devel | 23:22 |
cody-somerville | :) | 23:22 |
theron | 1st time using the alternate installer, I'm trying to install on a system built around http://www.logicsupply.com/products/ex10000eg and the harddrive is a serial ATA notebook drive. It's not detecting what HD I'm using, any guesses? | 23:23 |
theron | I've no idea where to even start looking for that. | 23:23 |
maxamillion | theron: that's odd ... sata normally has no problems being detected | 23:24 |
oliver_g_ | hi again | 23:26 |
oliver_g_ | anyone seen Stroganoff around? | 23:26 |
cody-somerville | He left 30 minutes ago. | 23:26 |
zoredache | I saw him last at about 50 minutes ago in thsi channel | 23:26 |
oliver_g_ | pity | 23:27 |
oliver_g_ | I have finally got a minimal Gutsy system set up on an SD card for the eee pc | 23:27 |
oliver_g_ | guess I will try his icebuntu scripts according to the readme :-) | 23:28 |
theron | maxamillion: so I'm stuck atm the regular install fails to start X in any fashion on this system, and the alternate installer fails to detect the HD. | 23:29 |
maxamillion | interesting | 23:30 |
PsynoKhi0 | back... ok now on the cuplrit laptop | 23:33 |
PsynoKhi0 | without cable plugged in during boot: nothing in tail -F /var/log/daemon.log about the dhclient | 23:34 |
PsynoKhi0 | with cable plugged in: DHCPREQUEST on eth0 yadayada | 23:35 |
PsynoKhi0 | TheSheep: what kind of stuff should I look for in the dhcp logs? (dhcp.leases, right?) | 23:41 |
TheSheep | PsynoKhi0: first check if the server get the request, then check if it sends a response | 23:43 |
TheSheep | PsynoKhi0: then make sure the response is accepted | 23:43 |
TheSheep | PsynoKhi0: you can make sure it's your computer by checking the MAC address | 23:43 |
quittt | hello | 23:44 |
quittt | do you know what can I do to make my Xubuntu lighter? | 23:44 |
TheSheep | quittt: what is the problem exactly? | 23:44 |
quittt | sometimes my system slowssss down | 23:45 |
quittt | I have 128 RAM | 23:45 |
Twilt | Hi | 23:45 |
PsynoKhi0 | quittt: what are you trying to run whe it slows down? | 23:45 |
quittt | SeaMonkey, for example | 23:46 |
TheSheep | quittt: I'd start with disbling the services you don't use | 23:46 |
quittt | actually, Windows is faster than Ubuntu | 23:46 |
Twilt | WHAT!!! | 23:46 |
quittt | and how do I see it? | 23:46 |
TheSheep | quittt: system->services | 23:46 |
Twilt | xp is slow | 23:46 |
PsynoKhi0 | quittt: how big is your swap? | 23:46 |
TheSheep | quittt: you can have more detailed view y=uisng the boot up manager | 23:46 |
Twilt | ...but i still use it sometimes | 23:46 |
TheSheep | !boot | 23:47 |
ubotu | Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto | 23:47 |
quittt | PsynoKhi0: about 350 megabytes | 23:47 |
quittt | it is very annoying =/ | 23:51 |
PsynoKhi0 | you could try an even lighter windows manager :) I used iceWM before upgrading my RAM... but even so stuff like OpenOffice just wasn't all that fast to load up and use | 23:51 |
quittt | iceWM | 23:51 |
quittt | argh | 23:51 |
PsynoKhi0 | some apps jsut won't feel that responsive with 128MB | 23:51 |
quittt | I tried to use it | 23:51 |
PsynoKhi0 | or enlightenment | 23:52 |
PsynoKhi0 | fluxbox... | 23:52 |
quittt | argh | 23:53 |
quittt | fluxbox is light | 23:53 |
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quittt | but is not a desktop | 23:53 |
PsynoKhi0 | TheSheep: uh btw what are the dhcp logs called? | 23:53 |
TheSheep | PsynoKhi0: no idea, I have them in /var/log/everything anyways ;) | 23:54 |
TheSheep | PsynoKhi0: but that's custom | 23:54 |
quittt | I've installed Bum | 23:54 |
PsynoKhi0 | eeeeeeh | 23:54 |
quittt | running it | 23:54 |
PsynoKhi0 | quittt: and enlightenment? | 23:56 |
quittt | Bum takes a long time to open, doesn't it? | 23:56 |
quittt | sudo sum | 23:57 |
quittt | sudo bum | 23:57 |
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